Episode 785 · Sunday, 27 December 2015

Hispandering

A viral campaign misfire and a suspicious fire in Arkansas frame a week of political maneuvering, pharmaceutical price gouging, and the return of the EMP Commission.

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About this episode

The Hillary Clinton campaign faces a sharp backlash following the release of a listicle comparing the candidate to a grandmother, sparking the viral NotMyAbuela hashtag and accusations of blatant hispandering. Critics point to Clinton's history with private prison corporations and the deportation of Central American children as evidence of a disconnect with the voters she aims to court. Meanwhile, an arson investigation is underway at the Bill Clinton Birthplace National Historic Site in Hope, Arkansas, where accelerants and mysterious graffiti featuring the number 55 were discovered.

In the wake of a massive data breach, Bernie Sanders fired consultant Josh Uretsky for accessing proprietary Clinton donor data, though questions remain regarding Uretsky's ties to the DNC and NGP VAN. Across the Atlantic, UK Home Secretary Theresa May is pushing new cyber laws that link surveillance powers to the prevention of online trolling, while the BBC reports on police training for Mumbai-style attacks in London. In the United States, President Obama signed a $1.8 trillion omnibus bill that quietly includes the CISA surveillance measure and reinstates the EMP Commission, which warns of a power grid collapse that could claim 90% of the population. Additionally, the CDC faces legal challenges from pharmaceutical-funded groups over proposed OxyContin guidelines, and the failure of Colorado’s healthcare co-op highlights the collapse of public options under the Affordable Care Act.

John Dvorak provides a spoiler-heavy review of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, questioning the physics of Starkiller Base and the decision to kill off Han Solo. The segment features a reading of an irate listener's chat room message regarding the spoilers, alongside a deconstruction of Irving Berlin's White Christmas as a Beverly Hills parody. Sir Jerry of Saugus is officially knighted during the Value for Value donor segment as the show explores the luxury of private Pullman railroad cars.


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CHAPTER 01 / 41 Discussion

North Dakota State Merchandise, Texas Tornadoes, Climate Change Skepticism

John Dvorak discusses wearing an officially licensed North Dakota State hoodie, leading to a conversation about the necessity of licensing for collegiate products. Severe weather in Texas is reported, specifically deadly tornadoes in Garland and the greater Dallas area that killed at least eight people. A CBS News report is analyzed where scientists suggest that record warm December temperatures and specific weather events cannot be solely blamed on climate change.

north dakota state· dallas· garland· reuters· el nino· climate change

00:00 It's the bomb, it's the cat's butt. Adam Curry John C Devorah It's Sunday December 27th 2015 time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 785 This is no agenda And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're official licensed collegiate prod ducks. I'm John Cena What kind of products are we? Officially licensed. Did we did we I just had that put this cold in here, so I put a hoodie on yeah from North Dakota and it's something jabbing me in the neck And it says officially license the license collegiate product no there you go This is how we start the show

01:02 Everything has to be licensed. These guys can't do their own t-shirt or their own sweatshirts. Hey, you know if North Dakota State rocks! Lots of people make no agenda T shirts and other swag Yeah they do yeah well They should put on that officially licensed just for the fun of it even though it's not just put it on there Yeah we have officially approved you putting it on whether its licensed or not Yes Until until it's offensive and we tell you it's not officially approved Hows' the weather there? The weather is kind of overcast and gray. Well, you know we've had some pretty bad weather here in Texas last night. It drizzled? Deadly tornadoes and flooding in the greater Dallas area killed at least eight people on Saturday after a severe storm system hit the area

01:49 Authorities say five of the casualties were reported in Garland, northeast of downtown Dallas where a tornado struck vehicles along the highway. Emergency responders said overnight that others were still feared missing. This is not good! Still feared missing? Who's developing this style of announcing?! That is...that's Reuters One of the few organizations- They don't know what they're doing never mind You know what I do like? Can you stop for a second. You are nowhere near Dallas No, i'm not This is like if a tornado hit Sacramento and I kind of reported it as though something... Okay You're living the life leisurely. You're like in Palo Alto I said Texas! I didn't say Austin. We've had bad weather in Texas It just skirted above Austin Bull

02:46 What is your problem? It's been started this morning. You sent me an email like why are you telling me this? Why do I need it information that I said that yeah, because why are you telling me this? I don't care some That's how I knew that you were gonna be a douche this morning. I what happened you go to bed late Did you get up on the wrong side of the bed? I did I fell on the floor okay well Let's I just wanted to ease into some weather conversation. Why asked you first? You know we had this or talking about the weather This is gonna be just you know, and help me off What is that That's a guy All right don't hassle the Hoff

03:37 I got a couple of, well I was hoping you were telling me about your Christmas gifts. Well i was going to! I was just kind of easing into it because we had a storm 8 people died last night It's not like its... Texas is pretty open and I was going to ease into saying that there was this interesting... Well I thought I did, I'll give you credit, I'll give you credit. I thought it was weird that there'd be a tornado anywhere around Dallas They happen all the time around Dallas. I didn't know oh god like last year there were semi trucks being blown into the air who knew yeah well before now, I do know this There's a funny thing that I apparently was a tornado that came into Fort Worth once and twisted one of the buildings And now the building is abandoned they can't tear it down because it'll wreck some other buildings Oh that I don't know

04:21 Yeah, but I do know this morning CBS News had a conversation about I think it was oriented around California because of the El Nino that everyone keeps talking about and the weather changes accordingly But what was nice this morning is that I don't know how they can get away with saying that weather is not climate change. Or, I thought it was! I'm very confused! But can these alarming weather events also be blamed on climate change? Scientists say no so fast. Maybe climate change adds a couple more warmer days or makes the warmest temperatures a little bit warmer. I don't think you can just say that because its a warming world

CHAPTER 02 / 41 Discussion

Christmas Gifts, Silver Toothpicks, Hunting Calls

The hosts share details of their Christmas celebrations and gifts received during the holiday. One host received martini-making equipment including silver toothpicks for olives, while the other received various sound effect devices. These devices include a buck call for hunting excursions and a mouse chirp, leading to a demonstration of the different pitches and grunts these tools produce.

christmas· david hasselhoff· martini· silver toothpick· deer call· affleck

04:59 We're seeing a record warm December. We might be enhancing the normal pattern that would have happened anyway by a little bit I'm confused Don't know what change in this story don't know what to think now, this is no good Yeah, I'll tell you about my Christmas presents okay? But I received A lot of alcoholic related presence alcohol related. That's a hint Now that I think about it Hi, i'm David Hasselhoff yeah I got a whole bunch of cool stuff. Tina brought her girls over here on Christmas Eve after the show, so we had almost like a family celebration! Did you have a tree?

05:47 Is it a real tree? It's a real tree. Yeah, well get it out of there because things are flammable I Do not park the hoverboard under the tree This hasn't been before you but there's got to be a few Hoverboards that were parked under trees caught on fire cut the house on fire burned the place at the ground yeah, I'm sure I'm so sure Merry Christmas Um, no I got martini making stuff with glasses and then silver toothpicks. And I got some fantastic uh... Yeah start picking your teeth for the silver toothpick. It's for the olives John! Oh? It's for the olives makes it look nice Well that's pretty decadent. Totally decadent i was making martinis all Christmas. It's hammered. I'll be having a martini with a silver toothpick

06:41 I got other nice things. You know, I'm not going to tell you because he's just gonna be mean about my gifts Here is the...I will be right Don't tell me anything How about your gifts John? What did you get? I got a bunch of sound effects Oh those kids Including this one which I was always thinking of buying this I've seen it at Big Five and some of these sporting good places And I'm very disappointed in it. I think Jay got me this. Oh, well that's don't be saying that she'll be feel bummed out if you tell her no, I mean, I think she would know. No one has ever heard this thing before. Maybe I'm doing it wrong but this is a deer male deer buck

07:23 Call This is for your hunting excursions Yes, if you go on and use this but yeah And somebody's gonna who goes hunting and actually uses this thing and gets it to work Yeah I'd like to know the make what would you do it? So I suppose these short bursts before one day. It stretches out they get you can get different notes You can get like Or if you stretch it, it gets deeper. I think the deer they hiss a lot. Is there a hissing sound in that? Well maybe if I hiss through it... I've never heard of deer like that! Apparently they make a little grunting sound to get the female... You sound like The Affleck Commercial. Say Affleck.

08:08 Affleck. Yeah, so there's that and then I got a mouse noise which is supposed to sound like a mouse It's like a mouse call it did-I haven't seen any mice come Oh That's a really good one And it's I think there's some pitches in the middle that I can hear but I don't have you ever seen or heard of Mouse chirp my tool the toy that I got actually has cocaine delivered to your front door You know that and it shows up So was the Hoth using a bucket when you made those recordings? No, it's one of those little keychains with buttons on it. You know what it is Well I got a keychain with buttons It's not a key chain like a noise maker and here are few sounds that it gives you Oh God Okay

CHAPTER 03 / 41 Discussion

Clinton Chronicles, Larry Nichols, United Nations Ambitions

A discussion of the 1994 documentary The Clinton Chronicles features Larry Nichols, a former associate of the Clintons. Nichols claims that if Hillary Clinton becomes President, the plan involves appointing Bill Clinton as the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations. This position would allegedly serve as a stepping stone for Bill Clinton to eventually become the Secretary General of the United Nations.

bill clinton· hillary clinton· larry nichols· clinton chronicles· united nations· secretary general

08:59 There's a bunch of them. Very nice, that was the good stuff. And then I got normal things like a polycom speakerphone which i needed in the kitchen and not giant one but the small ones actually spent uh some time yesterday with Tina with The Keeper um...I can't remember how it came up but You know, she's just kind of getting into the Clinton body count and all this stuff. It's a little eye-opening for anybody. Oh yeah! And I had heard about this thing called... The guy from this documentary from 1994 called The Clinton Chronicles which you can find on YouTube. I got to link in the show notes. You could probably find it on Netflix as well. Larry Nichols

09:42 Oh yeah, he's the guy. Yeah! So this guy is still around? Yeah which is shocking if you ask me It's outrageous that he's alive so The Clinton Chronicles was pretty good even though it was old and I think there's an updated version that he comes in and this guys gotten really old since 1994 but the things were interesting because he's around today...I think he was on The Seed Man show or something which kind of tells you something there And he says, you know if Hillary becomes president here's the plan. We may have discussed this but according to him the plan is because he used to work for the Clintons Bill will first become the ambassador to the United Nations which she can appoint

10:29 And I'm sure he would sail through the Senate, that shouldn't be a problem. But then it's just a hop skip and a jump to become the Secretary General of the United Nations." Yeah we've talked about this you're right. Can you imagine if you have Hillary Clinton President of the United States and Bill Clinton Secretary General of the United Nations? Yeah! They'd own the world pretty much well them in Kagan's obviously so i went to see this star wars movie I was just going to finish up one thing on Bill Clinton. Well, I'm gonna...I was just teasing this. Okay? Okay, I just want to mention the people so you don't tune out. Okay, sir. Thank you So in Hope Arkansas where a fire early this morning damaged the birthplace of former president Bill Clinton investigators are now calling it arson The blaze caused minimal damage to the back of the house a home designated as a National Historic Site Police say they could smell an accelerant at the scene in addition police found the homes door and walkway spray-painted with graffiti

CHAPTER 04 / 41 Discussion

Bill Clinton Birthplace Arson, Angel Number 55 Graffiti

Investigators in Hope, Arkansas, are treating a fire at the birthplace of former President Bill Clinton as arson after finding accelerants at the scene. The home, a National Historic Site, was also defaced with graffiti featuring the number 55. Analysis of the number 55 suggests various meanings, ranging from "angel numbers" signifying adventure to a millennial text abbreviation for laughter.

hope arkansas· bill clinton· arson· graffiti· angel numbers· 55

11:30 Mr. Clinton lived in the house with his mother and maternal grandparents until he was four years old So having was the graffiti what it is a report is this Thank you very much for asking because I saw the pictures and I saw the graffiti And it had the number 55 spray-painted of the walkway and on the side of the house 55. Okay, go on you must know the reference? Well there's a couple of references mainly people consider fifty-fives to be the... so two fives be the angel numbers okay powerful number as the energy I know as the energies and attributes have number five are doubled amplified and reinforced Number 55 carries vibrations of adventure and versatility

12:14 Don't you think that makes double nickels on the dime 55 10 which ten is it times 10? Is five times no I'm thinking ten is 5 plus 5 and fifty-five and you got four of these fives on there. Or 5555. 5555, I think is the way to go yeah so these are known as angel numbers but also well along with that... By whom I've just did all the research that I could find. It's a religious thing, really and if someone gives you the 55 sign it typically means give up and move on. What's the 55 sign? Hey, up your ass! You just hold up two fingers... That's a new no agenda gang sign. You know where you like flash your fingers now you just hold up all five fingers on each hand but that means hands-up don't shoot who knows what it means

13:10 Well, also the kids these days and you might want to check that with your millennials because my millennial is clearly not trustworthy. It is also a quick text message abbreviation for ha-ha I'm not quite sure how that works. Wow! I don't know how that works either...I've never heard of it but I'll ask at the next meeting. You know we all I also made her watch The Boys Town documentary We haven't talked about that in years. Oh, geez! In years... I'm surprised that thing is... It's been dubbed over so this is old-fashioned dubbing anyone who worked in the business before digital

CHAPTER 05 / 41 Discussion

Boys Town Documentary, Private Railroad Car Charters

The conversation shifts to vintage documentaries, specifically the "Conspiracy of Silence" regarding Boys Town and similar allegations in Kern County. This transitions into a detailed look at the American Association of Private Railroad Car Owners (APRCO). The hosts explore the luxury of chartering private Pullman cars, which can be attached to passenger trains and feature executive chefs and mahogany interiors.

boys town· conspiracy of silence· kern county· private rail cars· aprco· pullman

13:55 People would copy copies and then they'd copy the copy. Oh, yeah And this still has a time-worn hairs Yeah This has the time code below and it's all distorted and twisty It is horrible The one that we used to be on video on Google Video before they removed at night recall that We asked everyone to download it and reupload it to YouTube I just got a really crappy version but It was it's still just crazy when you when you see this documentary story. Oh my god what it's called? It says is not actually called the boys town documentary. It's called something else. It's a must-watch There's another one that is is it's not as horrific as the boys down conspiracy of silence That's what its called right and they had to have the government involved if she had all the way to the White House

14:47 There was a thing, I can't remember if I caught the name of it. I can't seem to find it but somebody out there could find it hopefully. It's documented about Kern County and how they started accusing everybody. It goes to California Zephyr. They started accusing everybody of being pedophiles. Oh another fancy car at the end of the train! Huh? This was a dark gray, a dark green observation car. Can I make a suggestion? That they stop doing that? No! No, I think what you should do is set up a little camera on a tripod so you can snap it. Think of the collection of private rail cars you could...

15:29 It's got to be on this particular train. What time is it? It is 920... Yeah, it comes in around 930. Now explain again what these are because people are mystified. I used to be mystified until the third time you explained it. About what? The private railcars? The private car yeah! In fact you can look up the American Private Railroad Car Association or something like APRRA something like that and they have some of these cars. You can rent these cars But most of them are. This is what we've talked about and some of them are unbelievable! Some of them are junk, I mean it's just like... What? Are you kidding me?! It looks like an inside of a 1955 trailer but some of them are fixed up so they're exactly the same as they were in 1929 or their old Pullman cars are fantastic And there's hundreds of them around the country Yeah You can attach him to any train you want

16:23 or the train company, or the transportation company will give you a quote if you wanna go from San Francisco to St. Louis in your own private car they'll route your car and they'll put it on different trains and you'll be hauled back there generally speaking they like to route on Passenger trains do they also do do they are to the railways who pull you? Do they also do catering and and hot waitresses? No, no You got your own your closed system. Yes a APR co comm American Association of private rail car owners Right and so you had some of these guys by the way, some of these owners. They're like they're like car collectors They have five or six of these cars sometimes and then they fix them up. Let's see a charter a car Okay, but let's see we want to charter one is it in Texas is one in Texas? Okay I think there's a couple of Texas collectors But they don't all charter the cars they may just keep him now this is the Charter page Oh my this is beautiful

17:27 Wow, this is one step up seats to an elegant dining room that's a 12. This is a couple steps up Get rid of that Airstream let's just rent these suckers the upstairs dome Features lounge seating for up to 18 guests and dining for twelve rich Honduras mahogany with plush carpeting and new upholstery observation platform with track lights for nighttime viewing and throwing your wife off of the train Excellent. Friendly crew includes executive chef, preparing meals on board interior completely refurbished in 2013 nice yeah that's for our grand Duke meetup one day. That would be the thing we just go across the country picking up Dukes. Picking up the dukes? We'll call it the Duke Express. It's a distinct possibility to do this show from the car

18:22 All these things are possible. Okay, you get right on that Yeah I'm on it now as i see the car go by and then ill report next Sunday about another one Anyway if knew anything really about it I would be able to identify the cars just like train spotting You'd see the car go by and I'd go oh! Oh thats that guy in Texas Thats his car That kind of thing But I can't do that It is the ultimate accessory Trump should have one of those. I'm actually surprised he doesn't. He may, we don't know that he doesn't. I mean this flying around like a madman in these situations with all the negative stuff thrown at him? Well with the Clintons on the opposite side it's just you know if...the body count of the Clintons amongst their friends is suicide is very high and aviation incidents are very unfortunate these aviation accidents that happen. And Trump said a chopper a lot yeah

CHAPTER 06 / 41 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Campaign, Abuela Hashtag, Hispandering

The Hillary Clinton campaign faces backlash after posting a listicle titled "Seven ways Hillary Clinton is just like your abuela." Critics on social media used the hashtags NotMeAbuela and NotMyAbuela to denounce what they termed "hispandering." The report highlights Clinton's ties to private prison corporations and her past statements regarding the deportation of Central American children.

hillary clinton· bernie sanders· democracy now· abuela· hispandering· latinos

19:23 Here's a clip Clinton and another movie assertion about Trump John Carl with us now live from the White House and John back to Hillary Clinton And what she said at the ABC debate that Isis is using videos of Donald Trump Sorry Well, I think we've heard this about the ISIS videos. But I'll play it anyway. Yeah it's almost done. I did catch a different one though. This is on Democracy Now! They actually blasted Hillary for some reason, but they don't like her. They don't like Trump, they don't like Hillary, they like Bernie. Really? So they would do a negative report... Oh before you continue the Larry Nichols guy Yeah He uh we were searching around for other stuff in a recent interview he said that the that Hillary or the Clintons know that in order to win

20:20 You need to be the underdog. And of course, you know we know Bernie Sanders is the natural underdog and you could even give O'Malley a little bit of underdog status in this. A little bit? He's a dark horse! He's Dark Pony I don't know about horse but... I said horse But he said that the Clintons they are so smart about these things that they- That's why they had The New York Times released the information about her emails. You recall we deconstructed that, that The New York Times really was complicit in this and we believed initially that it was probably to cover up a lot of news brewing about donations to the Clinton Global Initiative

21:05 But Nichols... They keep that pretty well covered up. What Nichols says is that they create that themselves to be able to push her down into a form of underdog status. Well, it hasn't worked. I think with people like the Democracy Now crew who do not like Hillary but I think those people will end up voting for her personally. Yeah, I agree. They have no other choice. They're robots. And so with the base, I think that they love when there's nothing she sat there for 18 hours and they've got to go through and she's being ripped to shreds but there's nothing...they can't find anything it could be just a brilliant strategy

21:53 Well, it could be. Now the thing that's in this report is a new term that cropped up which I just think is dynamite. Oh, okay. Is it show title worthy maybe? Yeah actually! In the D.N. Hillary clip? Yep. And candidate Hillary Clinton sparked criticism for her—of her own on Tuesday, after her campaign website posted a list of, quote, "'Seven ways' Hillary Clinton is just like your abuela." Thousands of Latinos quickly took to Twitter to list the ways Hillary Clinton was not just like their grandmother. Both the hashtags NotMeAbuela and NotMyAbuela quickly went viral.

22:32 viral, as people denounced what they saw as, quote, "'hispandering' by the Clinton campaign," as they put it. Many drew attention to the funding Clinton's campaign received from private prison corporations with government contracts to run for-profit detention centers for undocumented immigrants. Others drew attention to Clinton's statements on CNN last year calling for the U.S. to send back children fleeing violence in Central America who've reached the U.S. border. is spendering. That's a good one, I like that. Oh! I got a report that came in this morning somehow from Yahoo Australia so Bernie Sanders knew of this database access thing that was supposed to die away i guess?

CHAPTER 07 / 41 Discussion

Bernie Sanders Data Breach, NGP VAN, Josh Uretsky

A data breach involving the Bernie Sanders campaign and the NGP VAN database is examined. Sanders fired a consultant, Josh Uretsky, who allegedly accessed proprietary Clinton campaign donor data when a firewall failed. The discussion notes that Uretsky was recommended by the DNC and NGP VAN, raising suspicions about the connections between the database company and the Clinton campaign.

bernie sanders· ngp van· josh uretsky· dnc· data breach· hacker

23:23 According to Bernie Sanders, the guy who he had to fire who looked into the Clinton campaign donor list when somehow that became available in uh... in the database from the company NGP Van and we already know there's a direct connection. The founder of that company used to be a Clinton insider and probably still is but here's the interesting thing this guy uh what was his name Josh He's the one who got fired. He was a consultant who was recommended by the DNC and NGP Van, they hired him based upon recommendation from the company that runs the database and the Democratic National Committee. That's interesting. Well that reeks! It does. It reeks unbelievable

24:24 I didn't know that. I saw this guy's picture and he looks just like a classic kind of fat hacker with the beard, neckbeard. John at Dvorak dot org is the email address. So yeah and that is of course severely underreported It's not reported? Well Australia's Yahoo News site where I found this it was reported Yeah, well you know if you find something the seed guy talks about doesn't really mean it's reported but Yahoo News in Australia is pretty... That's reported. But anyway the point being if something like this happens and you know the circle is complete the dots are easily connected Clinton insider running the show he says oh try this guy out this guy does a you know he's like a Trojan horse

25:22 Then he says, okay. Oh boy! He might not have even seen the database who knows you could be bullshitting it could be yeah What do those guys know? I mean seriously what do they know about technology? I got me so let's talk about Star Wars Okay Okay, I have not seen Star Wars obviously. This is The Farce Awakens? Is the title of this? The Farse Awakens It is what I thought it was... Hold on John stop for a second! I think maybe it would be more interesting if the way you review the movie You could convince me to actually go see it Do you think that's possible? No Well then hold on let me get my beer and then I'll just listen to you Alright go ahead

CHAPTER 08 / 41 Discussion

Star Wars The Force Awakens, Movie Review, Spoilers

John Dvorak provides a critical review of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, noting the excessive amount of running in the film. He praises the performance of Daisy Ridley but criticizes the plot holes and the use of practical effects versus CGI. Despite warnings, Dvorak reveals major spoilers, including the fate of Han Solo and the parentage of the new villain, Kylo Ren.

star wars· the force awakens· daisy ridley· harrison ford· jj abrams· spoilers

26:17 All right the review of Star Wars the movie all right I'm first. I've read all the negative reviews before I went to see it to get in the mood yeah, oh And the best review, which I think people should take with them when they go see the movie if they haven't seen it already. It's they're running a lot in this movie

26:58 They're running and running, and running. There's a lot of running! It's a lot of running. Now wait a minute... Isn't there a hot new girl in the cast? Yeah this is the girl that did that interview I sent you the link to Oh the coke head? The coked up one That one She's cute! Oh she's very cute And she really is a pleasant actress She really is Pleasant She's pleasant, she's good She's not a crappy actress, she's a good actress I mean for all you need and that's easy Daisy Ridley Ridley right, and she is very She fits the role should be great. And what role does she play? She plays of the heroine

27:39 The damsel in distress somehow Princess Leia. She's not princess. No, no Leah is in the movie she's now the general and everybody says another thing Oh this movies just about how why we should elect Hillary what? Yeah I got a note from one of our nights today or one of our producers has said I saw the movie It's just a promotion for Hilary So, we discussed it. We had JC his wife Mimi myself Jay were all sitting around afterwards and doing a post-mortem on the movie. J., the youngest of the group hated it she hated it because it was quote unquote boring I didn't think it was boring Mimi meh

28:28 She could take it or leave it. She didn't think much of it. I can hardly believe Mimi sat through the whole thing! I'm surprised she went. There you go, she must really love you guys so... But it was very, I thought it was entertaining. It was exactly the same as episode four of the original 1977 movie with just a few little twists here and there but it started off the same. It was the same story. It was a reboot and it was a good reboot. I thought it worked out well and there's not a lot of CG that was For that movie, you'd think there would be more. They still used a lot of models and did it the old-fashioned way And when they blew stuff up they used... You know, real dynamite Yeah! Real dynamite And it makes a difference It really looks like something's blowing up but doesn't look like these phony things that you see in Transformers or whatever A lot of CG And is faster and cheaper apparently to do this way These CG guys are just over the top with their expenses

29:29 the computer guys. Now, the movie itself... I don't know if you want to see it? If you haven't seen them all? No, I have not even seen The Empire Strikes Back so okay well you shouldn't go no JC said that he He thought it was good because he had already brought himself to the point of maximum disappointment by watching those prequels that they did, which were terrible. And this was so far above that in terms of quality. There are plot holes all over the place there's too much running. They're running and running and running all over the place just constantly I can just I can John C. Dvorak says too much running now out now the force really good in fact at one point near the end of the movie Daisy Ridley who plays a woman called Ray Who has to try and just snort? The laser saber know that she uses cocaine, but if you look at this thing This clip that was an interview over she seemed kind of hammered mm-hmm

30:32 At the end, she suddenly when confronted with something minor She runs! She runs out and starts running. Just because hey we've gone five minutes without any running Yeah I think- Create a scene and have her running Yeah I think John...I think Because i watched two movies on Christmas I watched uh Christmas Eve After everybody went home like yeah wasn't tired yet Okay Uh but I watched The Martian And I watch Mad Max, the new Mad Max. I think those two combined equal to Star Wars movies. Fury Road is what it was called? I'm sorry? Fury Road Yeah exactly That's a good movie Well I think those two combined with the running and driving in the desert and explosions then... The boredom of The Martian movie What is that all- Why?! Who are people crazy!? This is not a good movie! I didn't think so This is Matt Damon in New Mexico for 2 hours It's terrible

31:28 You put those together and then you have kind of like a Star Wars experience. A little bit, except there's a bunch of little spoilers... I was talking about this with everybody else. I think i'm going to tell them the spoilers because there are spoilers in this movie! There are like three or four things that go, what?! And, uh... And you feel it's your job to spoil it for me? You know how I feel about spoilers. I think I've said this before. I don't like- Oh! Spoiler alert! Don't tell- oh spoiler alert! I don't care if somebody tells me what happened. Yeah, I know what happened. I know the spoiler is. I know the spoiler. She's a guy. Exactly! I didn't realize this but you're right It's always the same spoiler

32:13 All the way back to Madame Butterfly. She's a guy... That's the original spoiler? Mm-hmm. Uh, that one and he's dead! Though we saw Love Actually was that last night with Diane Keaton and Jack Nicholson where she writes a play about him where he dies Yeah, I never saw that inside spa. It's a great movie well There's a couple of sports. I won't bring it. I mean people are you at oh come on just do it? I'm not gonna watch it anyway Stop the show Here's this is instead of calling in a spoiler call it the official John C Dvorak Star Wars hip kit so if you want to be hip

CHAPTER 09 / 41 Discussion

Star Wars Plot Details, Character Deaths, Audience Reaction

The Star Wars discussion continues with specific plot points regarding Han Solo being killed by his son. Dvorak describes the final lightsaber battle between Rey and Kylo Ren, questioning the logic of the "Starkiller Base" planet-sized weapon. A humorous reading of an angry chat room message follows, where a listener berates the hosts for ruining the movie experience.

han solo· kylo ren· princess leia· daisy ridley· lightsaber· death star

32:58 You'd be able to say... Because you wouldn't have to go the movie. Exactly! So just give me the spoilers so it sounds like I'm on The Inside, like I know what I'm talking about Yeah hip is a hip thing Okay Alright People can turn off their podcasts right now Just do it First of all, the new evil guy, the new Darth Vader who looks like a British... He looks like a Cumberbatch type character. Looks nothing like him. Apparently Han Solo and uh.. And the general uh... Carrie Fisher I can't remember good whatever their name was her name. Obi-Wan Kenobi? Lady Key Layla or whatever. Princess Leia? That's the mom and dad of this character So Leia had sex with Darth?

33:36 No, with Harrison Ford. Oh with Han? How this guy got the power to be another Darth Vader is a huge plot hole to me Alright so what would... So I'd be like wow can you believe she did it with him Is that what i would say You might Okay alright Number two Number two Han Solo gets killed Okay Gets killed For real? With no... Could I say do you think they'll bring him back in the next one Exactly you could do that because he's stabbed by his son And then he falls over the side into a pit. So you can also say, wow who needs kids?

34:17 Yes, there's that okay. I'm just helping everybody out here This is fantastic you can go in cuz yeah And then it would be toast ooh With a kid like him like with the kid like Han Solo's Kid who needs kids and so you got that? It's a good gag You can use that and then of course he falls over But you don't know for it you didn't get to actually see him expire or burn That's why we can also say you think they'll bring them back probably will bring him back right because we didn't really see it You could do that. And then the bad guy, who's... everybody I read all the reviews and all the positive reviews, I read a lot of those and they also oh he's the best evil villain ever! Ever? Ever. And he sucks! What number three give me number three

35:03 Number three is that the girl Daisy Ridley who plays Ray? Has the force within her for some again for some unknown reason yeah Again, John John don't you know we all really have the force play yes The plot holds a plot hole and so they she has a sword fight with the other guy was a bad guy Yeah with their lightsabers. Yeah, and I always when I brought up, says there ain't gonna be a fight like that fat kid that's on YouTube. That is falling all over himself. Yeah we know. That poor kid. Anyway this is somebody said one of the I think Jay's or somebody told me about the kid that would happen afterwards he's now a lawyer and he fights against online bullying. Wait wait wait but where...I need the spoiler thing! Okay she beats him

35:50 And it looks like he's gonna die, but then an earthquake happens and a big crack between the two of them occurs. And that separates the two of them with a chasm in the earth if that makes sense? So we don't know what happened there. Okay well this is easy one you say man We all know girls can't fight well with a lightsaber That was bullcrap Well you could say that if you wanted to So she kicks his butt, and chops his leg off. I think he chops his arm off and he's fighting one-legged jumping up and down it was kind of silly and you just have to imagine it. So this, meanwhile they all somehow blow up this giant planet which is ten times bigger than the Death Star but somehow can harness the energy of the nearby sun and use it as a death ray to blow up the planet that all the rebels are on and then they blow up that plant just before... five seconds by the way! Five seconds to go there's five seconds

36:53 Boom! Then they just in time blow up the planet. And everybody, you know... and then by the way the Darth Vader character was left on the planet bleeding and the planet blew up so there's two strikes against him surviving but we don't know it did it was fast enough moving they had a cute little robot that rolls around Apparently they're gonna do a bunch of these two trilogies. They're gonna Disney is going to milk this franchise Of course like nothing we've ever seen and Abrams at least got it off to a good start I thought it was reasonable Okay, so it was a good movie. I mean, I thought it's good movie I saw it on the monsters like it's like an imax screen okay So just to recap for those of you who'd no desire to see it But you know kind of want to be hit

37:49 I can't read my handwriting. What was the thing about oh? bad kid no for a Darth Vader and Princess Leia and Han Solo they have sex yeah apparently okay And now we're still wondering, there was a big discussion. I brought everybody to the house to cook. There's a big discussion going on about where this Ray girl came from? How is she related enough to somebody she's related to? She's gonna be somebody's brother or sister or something like that and you don't know. Oh man... This again it's all it's the original movie rehashed kind of swap a few ideas here and there

38:28 And they even, oh here's the real killer. There are two things that I observed. One by the way if you're epileptic don't go see the movie. I think the opening scenes of the movie give anybody a fit. Two how do these guys these storm troopers wear all this white outfit and look nasty it seems as though a peace shooter will kill these guys every shot that hits one of them kills him what good is all this armor? I don't know man. And the last thing is they had the bar scene again, the same as- Oh no! Yeah? Okay i'm done. Uh response from the chat room... What's a response in the chat oh yeah something was funny uh umf cock s'ing son of bitch bastards

39:18 I was waiting for the crowds to die down before going to see this movie, now you spoiled it. F-you! You two bald decrepit a-holes God effing damnit! F-you! You shit kicking stinky horse manure smelling MFers! I love Star Wars now you effin ruined it! How did we ruin it? Now let me ask you a question there in the chat room If I ruined it why do people go see it over and over Stop, John. Let's just stop. Let's just stop okay? Thank you very much I appreciate the report While you were doing that...I was at home watching television trying to find anything i could Trying to deconstruct the media Everybody is on vacation It's all pre-packaged garbage I did luckily find it's late this year because we really have not been promoting dead children enough We've had a lot of dead children but just no from the flu

CHAPTER 10 / 41 Discussion

Flu Shot Propaganda, NBC News, Gemma Botello Story

An NBC News report featuring a Florida family is deconstructed for its use of fear-based messaging to promote flu vaccinations. The story focuses on Gemma Botello, a four-year-old who suffered heart failure due to the flu. The hosts criticize the segment for using the child's illness to shame parents who have not vaccinated their children, calling the reporting "shameless terrorizing."

nbc news· flu shot· vaccination· gemma botello· florida· ebola

40:15 And, you know, every year around Christmas time usually a little bit earlier. You know the networks get together and they have to promote the flu shot and NBC this is the woman who went to West Africa and then came back and she ignored the Ebola quarantine do you remember that? She was just hanging out in New Jersey. Yeah yeah on her bicycle bike. This is the NBC girl So this was a seven minute report trying to scare parents into getting the flu shot for their children. And I applied some of the John C. Dvorak speed up editing techniques. The flu season is upon us and a Florida family spent Christmas Day here at the intensive care unit, at this hospital. Their daughter was perfectly healthy until the flu attacked her heart. Oh no! Gemma Botello was a completely healthy four year old little girl

41:06 And now she's fighting for her life in this intensive care unit because of the flu. I really thought that was the end. You thought she was not going to make it? No, no. You know we just have to look back and appreciate these four and a half years that we had with her. And that's when Leila and Alex say they got their Christmas miracle. All of sudden on Sunday Gemma's heart started to beat again. No one can explain why some healthy children like Gemma get so desperately ill from the flu. Did Gemma ever get a flu shot? Never. Oh, never! Because... We're stupid I didn't think of the flu as

42:00 as a serious illness. Uh-huh! But now they do, and the parents of this little girl who dreams of being a doctor when she grows up have a message to other parents Now just wait for this big closing finish Get your child vaccinated for the flu Gemma is doing better but she's still not out of the woods yet now every year children do die of the flu and it's not too late to get a flu shot this season What the fuck is that? Every year children DO DIE It's unbelievable, these people just terrorizing people. It's shameless. Shameless? Terrorizing! Just terrorizing... it is shameless. It truly is shameless. Unbelievable. Well now there's this drug story going around This another one they're going after and its about time they did but they won't do it right Okay which one is this? This will be... No I know what it is, drug scam yeah I'm just wondering what it is you want to set it up

CHAPTER 11 / 41 Discussion

Pharmaceutical Price Gouging, Jacobus Pharmaceuticals, FDA Regulations

The New York Times and PBS NewsHour report on a pharmaceutical "scam" where companies seek FDA approval for old, public-domain drugs to gain market monopolies. Specifically, a drug for Lambert-Eaton myasthenic syndrome, previously provided for free by Jacobus Pharmaceuticals, is being targeted for a massive price hike. The hosts argue that insurance companies and a lack of government price controls facilitate this exploitation.

new york times· pbs newshour· jacobus· fda· lambert-eaton· drug pricing

42:59 Well, it's like there's apparently...well actually this is a story that was in the New York Times. They brought the reporter on and this was on the NewsHour on PBS and they brought this woman out to explain it's about drug that was essentially free for awhile and there's a new scam going around with these little drug companies are looking for public domain drugs that they can reapply for- And well, they buy the companies that do the generics. ...and then they jack up the price and this has been element of that. and getting it approved, getting its special status under this law. And so that gets them seven years of market monopoly which is actually a very very long period of time for the drug industry You wrote in The New York Times about a particular drug that was designed to help patients suffering from Lambert-Eaton myasthenic syndrome Tell us about that drug and how it fits into what we're talking here

43:53 So, the drug it's a neuromuscular disorder. People who have the disease have trouble walking many are confined to beds or wheelchairs The drug is extremely effective and it's also quite old The original work that was put into developing it happened in the UK And the earliest traces I could find of it were in France and Scotland, in the 1970s. Essentially what's happened is the drug has been effectively given away for free to patients since the early 1990s by sort of an unusual drug company—a little family-owned drug company—in New Jersey called Jacobus. Oh that's no good! That was the situation for many years.

44:39 publicly traded company, you know Wall Street traded company has sort of swept in and seen that the drug did not have FDA approval and decided to get it approved under this special law. So basically kind of racing to approval and essentially taking the drug off the market for patients that currently are getting it for free, and starting to charge what most market analysts think will probably be about $100,000 a year. Exorbitant costs! Who controls this? I know this is the FDA, but maybe it's also the market. Maybe these drug companies have the right to charge what the market will bear?" So Gwen, this is a really good question and this sort of gets to the crux of it. No its not! Effectively they do. It's not illegal The FDA when it decides how you know when it decides what drugs to approve doesn't look at price that's not something that it considers it's not Surely John in this report they brought up

45:35 The problem is the insurance companies who are, you know, willing participants in this scam. Surely that was brought up in the conversation? It never has. So effectively, the United States is really the only rich country in the developed world that doesn't have any where the government has no control over drug pricing. None! And this is a vulnerability in our system that effectively companies you know that are really really out to get very very high profits What news organization did this report?

46:12 The New York Times. Oh, God! So did the New York Times ever figure out that markets work from multiple sides? You know... Well it... Who's the payer in between? Come on! Again it's a scam. It's the New York Times. Yes, the government is controlling with insurance companies. Yeah by saying okay we'll pay that oh and everyone's premiums gotta go up. That's how we pay for it yeah So everyone's premiums going through the roofs because these...because Pharma could have done this 20 years ago. They could have just jacked the price up on everything, but they didn't because no one was gonna pick up the tab and now then the insurance companies are dominating everything in fact that's one of the reasons that the co-ops are going out of business is part of a scheme to when Obama set up the co-op it was part of a scheme

CHAPTER 12 / 41 Discussion

Healthcare Co-ops, Affordable Care Act, Obama Administration

The failure of healthcare co-ops established under the Affordable Care Act is discussed, with a focus on the Colorado co-op's closure. A clip features a woman expressing anger at President Obama for "abandoning" the co-op program. The hosts suggest that the administration prioritized large insurance companies over the public options, leading to the collapse of more than half of the nationwide co-ops.

obama· affordable care act· healthcare co-ops· colorado· insurance companies· single payer

47:01 to like, okay we had... Explain the co-ops. Okay there was a bunch of people that needed to have subsidized insurance health care plans and they had to be some public options kind of because you know it's not we're not going to go all the way to single payer because gosh then we would do the jig would be up and meanwhile of course Obama is supporters mostly for his election campaigns were insurance companies. So what do we do? We got to get these little co-ops pushed out of business, we'll set them up but then we'll push them out of business because the prices because they can't afford to do what the big boys are doing and

47:41 pushing them out, you know they're locking them down. I do have a clip that before i continue on this particular clip we just played...I do have a clip on the co-ops that ran on I think it ran on PBS but play that so your health care co-ops and wait wait wait there was this is What's interesting about this one, because you can't see it is this was about the Colorado co-op that had to close just out of the blue because they didn't have the right balance of money or whatever. And so the state shut them down and there were women who would just...you look at her and go oh my God there's a Berkeley chick that is such as liberal do gooder. So they asked her whose fault was it? And you watch her anguish

48:27 And you'll hear the question. Anguish! Wait, wait, wait... She doesn't want to play this. You're going to hear her anguish and fight it but then she says Obama. When we heard the news I really felt sick to my stomach In spite of the news Hutchins was confident they could raise the needed money elsewhere she had three interested investors but didn't have the cash in hand to meet the insurance deadline So at the end of the year, the co-op will shut down. Many of the 80 employees have already begun packing up the office. It's unfortunate that we were part of a health care reform that has been so politicized We were orphaned by politics Who are you most angry at? Obama Why Because there are so many different ways that the administration

49:18 made the Affordable Care Act work, but they really abandoned the co-op program at the time when it was most important. In fact more than half of all the coops nationwide have announced they are shutting down. It's just gouging the entire public and the pharmaceutical companies are in on it because once you saw one of them start raising, jacking up their prices they all started doing it because they said well wait. You guys gonna pay for this? Because you know they're in codes! They call insurance companies and say we're going to jack our price up with this $400 drug to 900

50:02 You know, yeah. Are you guys gonna pick it up? Oh, yeah, we'll figure out you know what's interesting having watched the the Clinton Chronicles again One thing is made very clear in that documentary Is that all of the corruption and it's good to see this in this context Of how things work behind-the-scenes if they have a number very specific examples The Clintons And remember they said, oh we left the White House. We were poor that's very possible It didn't take long for them to make it up because in their political process The Clintons do not care about the money which is why you can't really catch him because they're not there's no payoff To them other in ultimate power and it seems to me that Obama did You know just followed the same line the same template gave a lot of power to you know The insurance insurance companies which are really financially

CHAPTER 13 / 41 Discussion

CDC OxyContin Guidelines, Pharmaceutical Lobbying, Wall Street Scams

Corruption within the medical industry is highlighted through the CDC's attempt to change guidelines for OxyContin. Four pharmaceutical-funded groups in Washington have filed lawsuits to block these changes. Additionally, the hosts discuss how media reports often protect large pharmaceutical companies by focusing on smaller "scroungers" or minor Wall Street scammers to appear tough on crime.

cdc· oxycontin· pharmaceutical industry· washington legal foundation· wall street· corruption

50:53 companies. And of course, now they're going to put his little brother big brother thing together which already has what half a billion committed or some outrageous amount? Outrageous yeah. Yeah and it's good to see that in this context because as long as these people stay out of the money part and collect on it later which is pretty easy to do Even just by consulting, even if no one wants to thank you with a quid pro quo. Oh yeah or the million dollar speaking fees? Yeah stuff like that exactly and so even though it's been pretty quiet and lame the Pierre Omniar Drive My Cars $250 Million WordPress blog had a pretty good article about these...the CDC let me show you how corruption works

51:39 wants to change the guidelines for OxyContin, you know? Because people are...I don't know. Dying. Getting hooked. Maybe we should have some guidelines on these a little bit, you know, review it." And now there's four groups in Washington of course all funded by big pharmaceutical companies who have filed this like lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit. It's unbelievable." You had the Washington Legal Foundation, the Pain Care Forum who say, well you're taking away pain care, The Power of Pain Foundation... I mean it just goes on and on and on. We're dominated by this.

52:15 Now, back to the original report. The New York Times woman goes on and on and she almost specifically goes out of her way not mention the pharmaceutical company that is pulling this stunt. What am I supposed to play here? Well you'd have to play that original clip again but it was interesting for me because it got me on this in the first place. So say that again She goes, she gives the report and she talks about Jacobus. The New Jersey place? Yeah. She never mentions the other company! Of course not... So it's like, so I'm thinking but i was kind of caught off guard. Yeah! I'm thinking that it was like oh Pfizer or one of these big companies one of these ogres that we're used to but no what turns out there'd be some very small... That's funny! ...scrounger Well that's like the round It's like Comey and Loretta Lynn the country singer they had that douchebag arrested you know like all we got a big Wall Street scammer you know some douchebag in a hoodie

53:16 You know, like 9 million somewhere of maybe on some over-the-counter stock. Oh they're holding them up like look we're tough on Wall Street please! So what I thought she would...what I determined was that they wanted to slam the farmers but they had this one little dinky farmer that was part of this story and they couldn't do it so to make it seem as though you You know, it was like I thought it was kind of a chicken shit way to do the report. And there was a lot...in fact this entire debate making it sound as though Jacobus can't sell this anymore which is because it wasn't ever FDA approved and experimental drug that's not true either they can still sell it

53:56 The other company will get their own version of it and sell for a lot more money, and run that through the insurance companies. So what's going to happen I believe even though I can't prove it, the Jacobus experimental drug won't be covered by anything and it won't be recommended anymore. The doctors will push towards the other one. And that's how this... That's the real evil part about it anyway. I just found the whole thing to be deplorable. And what news organization was that reporting? Well, she is on The New York Times and it was on PBS. Okay hold on a second... Bath Towel. Bath Towel! Is that like you or something? Have you never seen Scrooged? You want me to play this? No please don't

CHAPTER 14 / 41 Discussion

UK Cyber Law, Theresa May, Anti-Trolling Legislation

UK Home Secretary Theresa May is finalizing a new cyber law that links surveillance powers to the prevention of cyberbullying and trolling. The BBC reports on police training exercises in London designed to respond to Mumbai-style terrorist attacks. The hosts argue that the government is using the pretext of protecting youth from online bullying to justify expanded spying on all citizens' internet connection records.

theresa may· bbc· london· cyberbullying· trolling· surveillance

54:43 Meanwhile, something snuck in at the end of the year over there in Gitmo Nation East as we always say that this is without doubt the the beta testing ground for all things shut up slave here in the West and Gitmo nation proper. Theresa May came out that she is the, you know they're finalizing this cyber law which will also be interlaced with tolerance and British values and they've upped the ante once again yes we need these new powers to spy on everybody for a very important reason. A scenario is eerily similar to the Paris attack

55:24 Terrorists storm a building in London, guns blazing. You see police enter move past the injured and the dead in pursuit of the threat They are terrorizing their citizens over there! This is unbelievable! What? It's outrageous. This is BBC, this is BBC and you see these just doing these exercises going on shooting the place up. Terrorists storm a building in London guns blazing you see police enter move past the injured and dead pursuit of the threat The training exercise meant to get London's police ready for a potential terrorist strike. It also illustrates a shift in policy following shooting attacks in India and France One of the things, in terms of our learning from Paris is to confirm to us that the training we've been doing

56:10 Post Mumbai 2008 is the right way to go forward. What? In years past British officers tried- They're now, what they're saying... Wait! Yes? But the India attack she says 2008 We're having an attack every decade or so and they're gonna do it'll go through all this trouble Yeah It's not like he's going on constantly This isn't World War II we are getting bombed where the V2s were hitting London This whole thing is intended to terrorize to the max say it could be like Mumbai Like Mumbai post-Mumbai 2008 is the right way to go forward. In years past, British officers tried to negotiate But police say recent terrorist attacks show there is little room for negotiation. What specifically did you see in Mumbai, in Paris that would spark or cause that shift in policy? Well I think we saw that the terrorists were willing to kill people and to do it quickly. Police say they will adjust the approach based on the situation so it's possible they could choose to negotiate They also acknowledge that the tactic of going forward means initially the injured will be left behind

57:15 So if you are in a Mumbai style attack in London, which seems pretty likely they're training for it every single day. If you are wounded, they're just going to walk over you. They're just gonna walk over your body. Police have been practicing to move forward since 2008 when gunmen stormed a series of locations... They should call it stepover instead of move forward. ...including a hotel, train station and Jewish center in Mumbai India The threat level has remained the same in capital cities. No, no it's troops! There are troops on the ground! These aren't armed bobbies! They're guys in camo which

58:05 Seems to stand out more in urban settings. What is with the camo in an urban environment? They're wearing desert camos, it's crazy! It's about reassurance and also we realize that Paris isn't very far from London And people are afraid that what played out in Paris could happen here. London's police want the public to know they are ready and moving forward So, Theresa May which of course we don't have video or audio of said under this backdrop of cyber... I'm sorry. Of terrorist attacks, of course the police now need all kinds of powers the authorities need powers to be able to read everyone's email and it is the first time that government has said the new laws will be used to deal with what Ms. Theresa may describes as the pernicious issue of cyberbullying

58:58 which affects millions of young Brits annually. She said the bill in her letter She reportedly wrote, but I think this is now confirmed. Internet connection records would update the capability of law enforcement in a criminal investigation to determine the sender and recipient of a communication for example a malicious message such as those exchanged in cyberbullying she said the bill will therefore support the effort of police to tackle online bullying and trolling Whoa What? Yeah. How about the Dvorak troll army?! Well, they're gonna be- What's to become of us? They're gonna get arrested is what's gonna happen! You're going to die in jail! Intelligence work takes place within a strong legal framework We operate under the rule of law and are accountable for it

59:49 In some countries, secret intelligence is used to control their people. In ours it only exists to protect their freedoms... That's right! Protect you from cyberbullying! Protect you from cyberbullying! Protect you from cyberbullying! Researchers? Claimed that as many as seven in ten young adults have been victimized by cyber bullies. Seven and ten? You think they just gang up on the other three with one- With yes, with one in five having suffered extreme bullying on a daily basis. Oh bull Yeah So they're going to use this now to track down trollers and cyber bullying Goodbye InkerNet

CHAPTER 15 / 41 Discussion

Black Lives Matter, Minneapolis Airport Protest, Islamophobia

Black Lives Matter activists in Minnesota shut down sections of the Minneapolis airport and the Mall of America to protest police brutality. The hosts question why "rising Islamophobia" was included in the protest's stated goals. They speculate on a potential merger between the Black Lives Matter movement and Islamic advocacy groups, possibly involving the Nation of Islam.

black lives matter· minneapolis· mall of america· islamophobia· nation of islam· huffington post

1:00:30 This is nuts. That's bad and then to dredge up that old Mumbai thing the best they can do isn't that just from 2008 I know this is gonna happen any minute Wow all right well are they getting him here's what here's I got one for you What is wrong with what we're going about to hear? About to report the black liberal black lives matter. I'm thinking black liberation movement BLM they went into Minnesota and caused a ruckus in The mall, and then they shut down the airport which it looks like oh, I hadn't I heard about Chicago

1:01:12 Yeah, the Minnesota one shut down the airport. But it's all over the place Chicago There's a whole bunch of whole bunch of places very professional signs yes all in the same Now let's play this clip and then I've got it kind of an ask Adam In Minnesota, hundreds of Black Lives Matter activists shut down sections of the Minneapolis airport, the light rail and parts of the Mall of America—the largest mall in the United States—on Wednesday in a protest of police killings of African Americans and of rising Islamophobia. Actions against police brutality also took place in Washington, D.C., Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago and Chattanooga, Tennessee.

1:01:55 All right, what's wrong? Yes, you can ask me something there's something fundamentally wrong with the report that Stands out like a sore thumb to me because of the note you never got to see that was sent To us by our producer in cog Negro Okay, who accused you of being a racist pig again? Yeah, well I'm a racist pig. I Am the guy who had to listen do you talk about only going to black checkers at tarjay yeah And i'm the racist i'm just this came in before i made that assertion and

1:02:36 And it had to do with the people understanding. We've seen this, you know, that Bernie understands what Black Lives Matter means and... Anyway, there's a short report just don't play the end just play it again and tell me what the real standout moment is in this report? In Minnesota, hundreds of Black Lives Matter activists shut down sections of the Minneapolis airport, the light rail and parts of the Mall of America—the largest mall in the United States—on Wednesday in a protest of police killings of African Americans and of rising Islamophobia. Actions against police brutality also took place in Washington, D.C., Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago and Chattanooga, Tennessee.

1:03:21 How does rising Islamophobia fit into Black Lives Matter? That is strange. Exactly! Good catch Day what is Islamophobia? Got to do with black lives matter because there was a big stinkers or white lives matter to Hispanic lies No, no. No black lives matter this is about blacks being Persecuted by the police is about blacks blacks blacks now all of us sudden interesting It's about his lamma phobia How does that work somebody explained that to me in In a memo of some sort, just send it to my email address and explain it to me how the theory of Black Lives Matter why is important as such jives with oh we're fighting against Islamophobia which has got nothing to do with it. What's Islamophobia got to do with police brutality against blacks? Well I'm just reading through the...I did a quick search black lives matter Islamophobia

1:04:25 And is it maybe possible that we're going to see the nation of Islam emerge in this fracas? Could be. Or maybe they're behind it to begin with! Possibly, the first hit I get is from Huffington Post a black Muslim voice on Islamophobia and starts off with as a black American Muslim That may be, there may be a connection there John. Maybe the nation of Islam... We haven't heard from Minister Farrakhan in awhile? No And he is a Muslim Yeah well Oh Mall Of America protests a decoy says Black Lives Matter What is that all about? A lot people said it was a decoy to shut down the airport Okay gotcha But does this also mention Islamophobia

1:05:18 No. Right here, a press release sent out after the action said quote we protest the airport's discriminatory profiling practices against black people and anyone who is perceived to be Muslim as part of a larger system that continues to kill and harm black people without any justice We're seeing emerging here this is emerge Is emerge of Black Lives Matter And they're going to merge into the Islamophobia conversation They're going to suck that up in their tractor beam Yeah, I'm gonna try Meanwhile they have to still deal with all lives matter movement. You want to call it that well? Well bitchy but now because the black lives don't black back back now before you do anything before you do anything I'm gonna give you a clip of the day

CHAPTER 16 / 41 Discussion

Jalil ibn Amir Aziz Arrest, ISIS Twitter Propaganda

A 19-year-old Pennsylvania man, Jalil ibn Amir Aziz, was arrested by the FBI for allegedly using 57 different Twitter accounts to spread ISIS propaganda. The criminal complaint details his tweets about wanting to travel to the "Islamic State" and his efforts to facilitate travel for others. The hosts debate whether these actions constitute a crime or are protected under the First Amendment as free speech.

fbi· isis· twitter· jalil ibn amir aziz· pennsylvania· free speech

1:06:04 This is important, John. This is an important clip of the day It was an important... which was different than our normal clip of the day which just amuses us Yes! Well that's most of what we do That's very amusing my friend I owe you a dollar on that one We'll try this All right, so meanwhile... Good work! Well that's going on. The Democracy Now also reported on this guy's arrest and And this gives everybody should give everybody pause. This is some guy named Aziz, A-Z-I-Z who was arrested for tweeting. Yeah go. Pennsylvania a 19 year old has been indicted on terrorism related charges after the FBI accused him of using Twitter to spread ISIL propaganda

1:06:57 In the criminal complaint, an FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force special agent alleges Jalil ibn Amir Aziz, quote, commonly uses his Twitter accounts to spread pro-ISIS propaganda including news from ISIL sources as well as execution photos and videos. The complaint also claims Aziz tweeted about wanting to visit ISIS controlled territory and encourage people to provide money to the group. As a result of his Twitter activity, Aziz has been charged with conspiring and attempting to provide material support or resources to a designated foreign terrorist organization.

1:07:34 So, I wish i'd known this earlier. He didn't give any money by the way This is a 19 year old kid Yeah! I'm looking at the affidavit right now from the FBI Blowhard Yeah he's a 19 year old kid Aziz uses social media to spread ISIS- ISIL propaganda and to seek support for the terrorist group from individuals over the internet Aziz social media activity supports ISIL by radicalizing and recruiting others Hey prove radicalizing prove that to me Aziz has conspired with others and attempted to facilitate the travel of other ISIL supporters to Syria so they can become ISIL fighters. Wow, there's a lot of circumstantial evidence! Well most cases are based on circumstantial evidence but i see this as the freedom of speech issue Of course it is But now he's not sending money we do know that's against the law and that's not freedom of speech apparently He's not sending money...He just talking

1:08:31 And yeah, maybe saying hey ISIS is great. ISIS is fantastic you should all join. Are we at war? Is there a declared war against this? It's not sedition at all I mean you could say well it's the seditious thing he's doing and you could maybe bust them on that, but no. This is interesting. Aiding terrorism by just what? John this is interesting let's go through this affidavit for a moment because we need to know what is going on and Democracy Now or whoever that was didn't go to the actual affidavit. They don't do it they just read from a sheet. Aziz has created and used at least 57 different Twitter accounts well I guess those are the one that Anonymous took down those big brave anonymous guys

1:09:15 It appears that Twitter routinely suspends Aziz's accounts due to the radical nature of his postings which violate Twitter's policies. Yeah, but not the law. Aziz then responds by creating backup accounts or opening a new twitter account with slightly different variations of common user names Okay so they checked his internet protocol...his IP address... They've been on this guy since 2014! So have they got somebody making money on this guy? Oh my God. Here's where this martyrdom will be a spark that will awaken sleeping lions in America, let their blood water the seeds of jihad hashtag Chapel Hill shooting is that illegal doesn't sound it's not illegal but it seems to me that the way to deal with this sort of thing is to pick the guy up and say hey shithead yeah beat him up yeah and talk to his parents do that because that's pretty illegal too but

1:10:11 If you knew who this guy was and if he was in the neighborhood, say hey this guy is in Berkeley. He lives...he's in Berkeley you can look him up on the... I'm just going to read some more of these tweets! Just tell me what..you're right first of all that's a 19 year old kid they are morons Aziz using Twitter account at Ansar al-Umrah 49 other Twitter users also discussed making Hijra the term hijra translates to emigration but in some context travel to land controlled by ISIL oh god twitter I will probably see Colonel Shami made hijra this is all illegal people

1:10:54 On one more occasion, Aziz has declared his desire to travel to the quote Islamic state. Oh you can't be tweeting that! So if you tweet I'd like to go... To Damascus? Yeah yeah That could be deemed... This is outrageous this has been going on since the beginning of 2014 with this kid Yeah, I'm sure he's radicalized by now. Have they also been replying to him on Twitter? I bet you they have. Oh, I'll bet you there are tons of... Hey tell us more man! Tell us more it sounds good what your talking about. Tell us more. Yeah this is really good. That's what their doing ya know that. It's what they always do. Yeah July 2014

1:11:41 And did they have an agent connected to him? They must have had. I wish I'd had this earlier, I'll look through this and maybe something... Yeah if you think it's worth reporting more about it but I found that was like there are better ways than me It just I don't know it just is just pushing the stuff underground yeah and yeah yeah all right yes troubling it's just troubling I mean I don't think anyone sees the implications of what's going on here You know I mean, this is the old you know talking about bombs when you're entering your airplane right Which is no there's a reason for that yeah? But well. I don't think you get thrown in jail just to get thrown off the airplane No they used to talk to you

CHAPTER 17 / 41 Discussion

The Walk Movie, 1970s Customs, Philippe Petit

A discussion of the movie "The Walk" leads to an anecdote about Philippe Petit's 1974 high-wire walk between the Twin Towers. The hosts contrast the relaxed security of the 1970s, where a customs agent allegedly encouraged Petit despite his suspicious gear, with the modern era of immediate arrest and terrorism charges for similar behavior.

the walk· philippe petit· twin towers· customs· 1970s· wire walking

1:12:34 Well, they inconvenience you. They used to talk to me... I have a little chat with ya. Hey man! Yeah, you know uh... Hey man don't do that alright? You're an idiot okay now look at your sitting in this room with us. That's the... I watch The Wire Last night yeah, it's funny. It's okay what he meant to funny sound funny less because you've just started watching the wire the movie nothing not the About the guy who did The high-wire walk between the tin all that movie. Yeah People say they get sick watching that movie You watch in 3d no I don't think I watched at home Is it out? It's on Amazon or Netflix yeah

1:13:17 And so, but what happens is he's cutting this now. This is back in the 70s He comes into the States and he opens up his suitcase at customs and he says this isn't you know wire? This is no, this is 300 feet of this is block intact who's got 18 suitcases filled with all kinds of gear You know to make this walk and the customs agent Instant 70 says what are you gonna do when the guys I'm gonna walk between the two twin towers and the guy slams a suitcase shut just Enjoy your walk that's what America used to be like Yeah, enjoy your walk. Enjoy your walk buddy good luck to you and good luck Good luck to ya know now you'd be arrested and you'll be sent back in your terrorists You got wires what are you doing? Yeah, you would it's really changed Yes, but you know the pig of this dumb Screw dumb kid disease big talker yeah But they should do if they want have fun with him

1:14:11 There's a lot of things you can think of besides. You know making a big fuss about say hey, buddy You come on the door like you said hey? Yeah, you've been interested in doing all this stuff We got you a ticket Go to Syria right now turn in your passport. You're not really cool. This is really cool Yeah, it's United American anymore, but we give you dynamo just ship me over there and have fun dynamite a whole Ship him off No, he's gonna go through the criminal justice system. It's gonna cost the taxpayers a fortune and it's all about free speech Yes, just I don't know now. I'm sure what I suggest is not legal either. I like your idea Well that I want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C with a c stands for Christmas show Dvorak

CHAPTER 18 / 41 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Knighting Ceremony, Sir Jerry of Saugus

The hosts acknowledge high-value donations from the "No Agenda" community, starting with a significant contribution from Christopher Tremling in Australia. A knighting ceremony is conducted for Gerald Wingenroth, who is dubbed "Sir Jerry of Saugus." The segment includes the reading of donor notes and the selection of honorary titles for new members of the show's "Round Table."

christopher tremling· melbourne· saugus· knighting· donation· executive producer

1:15:00 Well, in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water And all the dames and knights out there in the morning Yes in the morning to everybody in the chat room no agenda stream calm Thank y'all very much for showing up I want to say in the morning to All of our artists of course but in particular I want to say in the morning to mark G who brought us the artwork for episode 780 what was it 784 And his artwork was, the title of this was Hot Rhetoric and he had the fight poster. Yeah it's very nice. A lot of little, the fracas in Damascus you know a little cool things in there. It's a nice little piece of art really beautiful piece. Well we do have a few people to thank and let's start with our number one donor today which is Christopher Tremling

1:15:54 in Melbourne, Victoria Australia who came in with my favorite donation. 1234.56. Hell yeah! Yeah. Have a Merry Christmas Happy New Year keep up the great analysis for my knighting... Did I get to beginning of this or did I skip it? Looks like the beginning He sent a long note which had to be cut and pasted. Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Keep Up The Great Analysis For My Knighting I'd Like To Be Knighted As Sir Priest I guess, as an enterprise prize or surprise? Oh well he has a couple of questions. Either Sir Prize, Sir Endipity, Sir Cumspect or Sir Charge. Right! I think endipity and cumspect are already taken but prize i think is available. Cumspect?! Yes sir cumspect. Sir circumspect. So I think we have one.

1:16:53 Okay. Hey man, I don't do the admin on this show! Alright anyway what did you think when you said Indipity? No surprise. I think we have an Indipity. No no i said surprise he can be surprised. Yeah okay surprise or preese uh then he wants the following jingles two to the head look at the juice and then from show 77 7 can we get someone to clean this up yeah it's leakage I don't think we have that isolated. Yeah, I think I have it somewhere He wants to the head juice and okay any karma anything else here in his note before well Let's just go on job and relationship Karma would be appreciated for the new year on another note he's now He's talking about something else okay? We're gonna read this because I don't know I'm not sure that its valid or That we even do it

1:17:44 Job and relationship, on another note I have noticed for a long time the use of the phrase, I believe. I first picked this up in 2008 from Leo on Twitter and other podcasts including No Agenda. I have started using it myself for awhile. I'm taking the term I believe to be what I think without actual concrete proof or where there is doubt in a way that carries a get out of jail free card if I am wrong." However, I believe is also associated with religious belief i.e., gospel sermons where there can never be any concrete proof." I wonder at your use of the phrase and if you should be saying, I think as your statements or as a result of your analysis not some divine guidance? I don't think we should be using either one What do the two of you think

1:18:42 makes you both use I believe do we use I believe There's a yes, we do because I read this note and I just did a random sample Yes We do but not as much as the tech horny shows where that's all they say. I believe Apple will this I believed with I believe I believe IBM should have done this I believed Kleiner Perkins I believe I think it's a crutch. It's a crutch, and I believe our sentence starting crutches which gives you time to ramp up to think about what we're saying. Well, I think or I believe... That's exactly what it is! The one that women tend to fall back on as I feel. Oh, I don't know about that? Yes Even the tech horny women

1:19:19 Well, not so well. Maybe I think you're gonna hear it more from them on the Ted Corny shows than you're gonna hear it But you can't hear a lot in everywhere but and even worse I feel as part of some training I sometimes say I do believe which is even worse Yeah, because I was gonna use that yeah, it's worse. I do believe I do believe it's worse We'll work on it. I think it's there you go It's a crutch it's a crutch to for me. I know what I'm doing when I say that That's actually because I'm ramping up in my head the rest of the sentence. Because, uh...I'm a performance artist! I don't know what else we can say. Onward! We can say adios mofos let me give him his jingle sequence here. Yes. Okay let's... Josh? Can you see that juice?! Uh, can we get someone to clean this up?

1:20:07 Yeah, it's leakage. It's left a bit of a mess. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You thought. Karma. Wow John congratulations Christopher got it We did it we did it John we did it That was pre-produced Oh, well that was well done. We didn't fail! It was an absolute gem of a combination too I should say. Very nice combo. Gerald Wingenroth from Saugus California sent it... he didn't send a check in it came through one of those banking services for $1,000 instant night and course it says here Eric's spreadsheet JCD lost the note no. No.

1:20:58 I tried to find him. Jerry has...and he calls himself Jerry, Jerry has not communicated with the show since January of 2014 so he's decided, I guess he's been listening still, to donate $1,000 and he didn't say anything about even wanting it be the night but it's a thousand dollars gotta be at night so we're gonna knight him Sir Jerry of Saugus He can change it if he wants to. Sir Jerry of Saugus? Yeah Is that also in the... let me just check Huh, I don't have that at all No of course not because i just made an executive decision on the spot Okay gotcha Uh sir Gerald or Jerry? Jerry Because he refers himself as Jerry Sir Jerry of? Saugus Very famous town in California where a lot of cops are murdered Cool

CHAPTER 19 / 41 Discussion

Podcast Production Standards, Live Stream Exclusives, Video Rant

In response to a listener request, the hosts explain why they do not include "pre-stream" banter or outtakes in the final podcast edit, calling such practices "pretentious." They also reiterate their refusal to produce a video version of the show. They criticize the aesthetic of video podcasts, specifically the appearance of hosts wearing large headphones and looking at monitors rather than each other.

podcasting· live stream· skype· video· pre-stream· production

1:21:52 very famous sounds shahar words august and so i was a huge u s for people to look it up saga scandal looked at sir p not amissy uh... in parts unknown three four five six seven other good donation no name or location merry christmas and thanks for another great year shows very simple thank you very much um... son were going to slide this thing around the world that works all right now dot michael sauce men He is in Suwannee, Georgia. $333.33. Gentlemen please keep up the great work. Douchebag call out to Uncle Bob Johnson! I occasionally get to listen live for those of us that don't actually get the chance to do so you can please consider adding about 10 minutes of the lead-up to the end of the show. What? Oh no he's asking

1:22:47 Let me start that sentence over. For those of us who don't usually get the chance to listen, can you please consider adding about 10 minutes of lead up? No! That is the bonus you get when you tune into the live stream I think you should do something. Oh, I see what he's asking He wants us to take that crap that we talked about before the show and then do that cornball No offense to you Michael but it's a corn ball trick i've seen it done on some shows on tv so they take and put a bunch of crap in the end out takes bullcrap at the end yeah outtakes bullcrap I think its pretentious It also as someone who is who did not listen live You feel gypped! You feel ripped off

1:23:36 Like, oh there's all this stuff and you know. No it's sacred two things we will never do we will never post the pre-stream in the regular show now something can always get posted somewhere else because it's so outrageous but that has not happened in eight years and uh... We will not do video right Well, that's the dumbest thing we could do. Video! We have the same attitude about this you have the same attitude I do about this of course it's stupid and I'm just don't want to go on a rant about this but then you see these videos it's a bunch of people on Skype usually they got two cans on their head they got a big giant microphone nobody knows how to use a lavalier can see their face

1:24:20 And they're looking all over the place because they're not looking at each other. They're looking at monitors, they're looking at something... They're looking at the internet, they're looking at a website and it's stupid! The video part doesn't contribute anything now some of these shows I will say that show a picture or something that they're talking about and put it over the video and that kind of thing But that's still minor. But it's this, it's the can big giant cans and a mic in your face and all that sort of thing. This was started as just a cheap moneymaker. No, no, this started a long time ago when Don Imus and Howard Stern right radio guys would put cameras in their studios? Yeah yeah but it's a little different when you have naked strippers in your studio be able to yes webcam hell yeah

1:25:08 We'd be running webcams if we had that. Yeah, I think we would but we don't. We're sitting here in our underwear actually i'm wearing a large hoodie because it's freezing. Oh! I'm wearing my FBI hoodie and yes my Dallas FBI hoodie. It would look fantastic to see My Dallas FBI hoodie is nice the emblem says so they can see Texas and Longhorns and then it says The eyes of Texas are upon you That's too big eyeballs? No, it should. Those cartoon eyeballs. Boink boink Alright, so there you go. No! Thank you very much for your contribution but no we're not gonna do that. He says if he finishes the note with you... The bumbling prior to the hit it is usually comedy gold but it is so listen to life if you wanted that exactly. The show was comedy gold thanks for all you do can I get a LGY and a little girl boom shakalaka my kids love those

CHAPTER 20 / 41 Discussion

Associate Executive Producers, New York Life Advice, The Economist

Donations from Associate Executive Producers are read, including a contribution from a 25-year-old listener who recently moved from Dallas to New York City. The hosts offer brief life advice for living in New York and discuss the declining quality of "The Economist" magazine. Multiple "karma" requests and custom jingles are played for donors from various locations including Georgia and London.

san marcos· dallas· new york city· the economist· karma· jingles

1:26:10 You've got karma. All the kids love him! Yeah, they do think how can they not? Sir Chris Eisbach in Cheshire Connecticut 333 33 Merry Christmas Happy New Year Thanks for helping me be that guy invited to dinners to be The Dancing Monkey Oh poor guy This should make me a baronet Look forward to an interesting 2016 Can I have a don't raff Too delicious to ignore and don't eat me Hillary. Uh, too deli- I don't think there is a too delicious to ignore... I think it's just too delicous to believe It's uh.... Yeah And what was the other one? Don't draft Okay yeah sure. Don't draft! And don't eat me Oh, I do not have time to roll my joint man What are you doing

1:27:04 Go. Hold on, I can't- why can't I find Don't Eat Me? Please... Don't eat me Hillary Clinton! Man that's uhhhh....I know what it is John thanks. Don't laugh! Why you are laughing?! Shut up It's almost too delicious to believe my friend. Shut Up! Don't eat me Hillary Clinton! You've got karma You should probably ISO that. Yeah, make it tighter. I use it for different things. Sir JD Baron of Silicon Valley got a note from him his notice is not concatenated... Abbreviated? It's cut off. 32116 he's in San Jose holiday greetings from the Baron of Silicon Valley sir JD please accept this new countdown contribution oh by the way this was good I read this part

1:28:01 I think it may be a gag because they sent him a note. He says, and read this important message too in this blank." Now his donation is 32116 and he says this is the countdown that donates which we'll put in the next newsletter for New Year's which is coming up this week. Oh 32116 oh very nice! Yes three two one 2016 So that was, I thought that was very creative. It's a good idea! I liked it alot. I liked it alot! Very creative Joseph Gilbert in Duncanville, Texas. I don't even know where that is never heard of Duncanville no Dear Austinite Adam and Downer Dvorak Heard the call out in the newsletter. I'm 25 and recently moved to feed by this $300 nice move to Dallas from Dallas to New York City for a promotion Wow got an Unsuspecting year-end bonus and thought there was time to chip in oh nice so I can help keep the show running

1:28:58 I know if i don't give something the show would go off the air. I've noticed the economist has gotten worse in the last year and recently ended my subscription before you mentioned it. Me, a bitch about the economists turning into garbage." Do either one of you have a replacement suggestion? Any other life advice about living in New York? Yeah be careful! Don't eat the yellow snow It would much appreciated accounting of previous donation confirmation number goes on and on Joseph Gilbert Hmm advice for New York life you lived there for a while. Yeah, well I've been there a lot But I've never actually taken up that don't have any reason all the what's that the? The green line was at the upper line thing That's something cool to be seen that's done by Brooklyn with it You've been to Grant's tomb no see this is what I want to do yeah, I like to go watch micro greens grow and

1:29:59 Well, there's plenty of my idea of a good time I'm micro greens well. Thank you very much. I'm gonna give Joseph some karma here because that is very nice Thank you so much got karma 25 kidding me So the difference between the 19 year old moron who's tweeting? You know getting arrested for tweeting and then here's a twenty five-year-old no agenda listener yeah also in the millennial group but Surviving yeah, it's good I think noagendthenewsnetwork.com is good if you just want to get some, you know, if you want some stories. I know what he's looking for because The Economist provides this kind of...

1:30:45 It's a weekend collection, it's a collection of stuff and it's to the point and usually not with a lot of rhetoric. But they've changed, they're not nearly as good. Exactly And the new editor is not helping they're just trying to be his most click bait now Right I don't know... John Kumar Is that what I'm looking at? Yeah in London, UK. He says a note... Actually he sent a note in so let me read from this email because this thing doesn't look like the full length. No. Please find and make donation of 300 bucks for all the great work you do. Last time I made a donation asked for jobs karma it worked! Ding ding ding! Can I request some job and relationship karma this time around please? Of course. And can also get the following jingles in the following order. Okay. Whoopie get out of my vagina

1:31:40 Hillary's laugh cackle? Your kids must be so proud of you. Hillary's laugh cackle? Wait a minute, something is going wrong with the whoopie thing... Yeah, laugh cackle. See this is why I need to have copies of these before we start! I just found this by accident. Okay that's cool I'm still looking for yeah keep it going and shut up don't laugh which is funny there's again the random number thing happening people asking for the same thing over and over. Yeah that is interesting And he says thanks for all of work in all of...and you do, us too Yes! All the best for 2016 hail Apple and go podcasting Absolutely Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs Get out my vagina

1:32:33 You've got karma Fucker didn't play but didn't play the don't raft didn't play. There you go Done Oops, well, yeah when people asking for five Different jingles in a row and I can't read ahead in the spreadsheet to see what it is It's kind of hard he did fine. Okay? He always complaining George Burdell in... Is that how you talk to your wife? Yeah. I do actually, quit complaining You're always complaining! I think all men would like to say that they are their wives John C. DeBoer actually does it ladies and gentlemen That's a real man right there people Quit complaining

CHAPTER 21 / 41 Discussion

Ham Radio, TV Licensing, Jesse Ventura Candidacy

A donor from Maui, Hawaii, prompts a discussion about ham radio and the PSK 31 digital mode. Another donor from the UK mentions the high cost of the annual TV license, which the hosts find exorbitant. The segment also addresses a listener's suggestion regarding a potential 2016 presidential run by Jesse Ventura via the Libertarian Party.

ham radio· maui· psk 31· tv license· uk· jesse ventura

1:33:24 George Burdell and Kula Maui, Hawaii. It's in Maui... No it said Kula Maui. I got put in wrong. Hawaii $273.88. He sent a note in this was a check. Let's see what he says and this is probably why when I wrote the thing down I probably got it wrong my microphone is slipping all over the place Greetings from a fellow ham on Maui. Hey, 7-3's! Please provide much needed de-douching as I have been a listener since show 600 something and this is my first donation. Here we go. You've been de-douched He wants to combo at the end so that more read of Dvorak 3x3 and the Calypso Ebola Okay

1:34:19 I only read you further of interest, he says. So it gives us an option." I'd like that! This is rather late but if you requested titles for certain recurring themes for the show... For example something for Hillary adherents much like Obots for Obama followers and something for the involuntary reflex to constantly check one's phone cell phone. May I submit? May I submit? SaffoBots?! It's a bit much yeah, perhaps and tech Tourette's ooh Yeah, but I best triggering things with me trigger warning. Oh what oh that's triggering my Tourette well Okay, well never mind Staffle boss is a bit much yeah Tech Tourette's as I like them, but the texture rats I mean I can take one for the team okay? Well maybe we'll use it for something

1:35:10 Anyway, there you go. And then he's got his requests 3x3 and Ebola and Karma Was it uh... is that the Matilda song? Is that what is? Yeah! E-Bola! E-Bola! Catchy. Yeah That one and then Dvorak's 3x3 I don't know why Well okay I'll do that one first E-bola! Woopadoopa doopadoopa eeepo eepo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo eepeo ee comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC. The never-ending three by three. You've got karma. Creative license, creative license. Tim Wynzerian, Shakopee Minnesota 25052 We have a lot of executive producers and associate executive today and we want to thank them all but in particular Tim

1:36:14 Dear Adam and John, it's Tim the Mastronomer checking in. You guys haven't heard from me much but I have been listening to you for 4.5 years now. It was very accurate. Perfect! How many souls is that? I even met Adam and Mickey at the Austin Farmers Market. I went through the astronomy PhD program at UT University of Texas and have subsequently moved on for work. Good, there's not an Austin. Having strong ties to Austin I get a real kick out of the shows where Adam mentions his contract from McDonald...his contact from McDonald Observatory The show where Adam talked about visiting the observatory one outstanding Thank you Was outstanding sorry The Brazilian astronomer Adam was so enamored with was actually my office mate at UT for an entire year This is the worst donation note ever

1:37:01 Because now my now Tina the Keeper is hearing my ex-wife's name and the hot Brazilian astronomer This is bad people It's very bad This is a donation. I obviously enjoy the show, especially... Did you mention the hot Brazilian in the show? Yeah. A lot of Brazilians are hot by the way. Her husband was also there on site so it's... But it was just of note He says, I especially appreciate being updated on events now that I'm abroad $218 of this donation as the TV license I am not buying this year Is that high?!

1:37:47 Is he in the UK? Yeah. I'm thinking it's 190 pounds or something It has gone up to 218 No way! What he says, or maybe he's got it in dollars but I think he means pounds. It's always going to go up! I look forward to some fantastic and hilarious election year coverage from you both one thing that has never been mentioned on the show is the potential candidacy of Jesse Ventura former governor Minnesota Navy SEAL He's not a seal he was a frog man nasty and badass. He openly discusses although they sell him as a seal 145 point 145.5 pounds

CHAPTER 22 / 41 Discussion

Electoral College Theory, TSA Travel Tips, Back Braces

The hosts discuss a theory from the "No Agenda" subreddit regarding Black Lives Matter and the Electoral College. A travel tip is shared suggesting that wearing a back brace can allow a passenger to opt out of the TSA "slave scanner." This leads to a discussion on the changing TSA rules that may now force passengers through scanners regardless of their preference.

electoral college· reddit· tsa· back brace· security theater· dallas oregon

1:38:27 His tentative plans for doing so via the Libertarian Party on the Ora TV online show was called off the grid. If he can get into debates, if he's not getting into debates nothing like that is happening don't even consider it. That's not how it works! This is America thats not how it works Great job please never stop okay give him some karma and move him along I gotta tell you something You've got karma. No, I'm always cruising through the no agenda subreddit. There's this guy who posted a theory that Black Lives Matter and what they were all about is removing the presidents from universities and colleges so then the electoral college will vote the way... The way the Democrats want them to

1:39:17 Somehow this guy thought that the electoral college is a bunch of universities. It's like a college! No, it's the guys who run the colleges and the universities Oh that's funny Black Lives Matter Their strategy is to replace them all with shills Yeah no Very funny That was one of my favorites Yeah, it's a winner Totally a winner Dame Patricia from Biscayne Bay in Florida $250 Has sent a note and she actually sent a nice card. Oh lovely It was a card I tm from both for do both you wishing you both Merry Christmases if it gets there in time, but Forgetting your close enough just missed Thanks for all you do it's an immeasurable requesting job karma from my various family members and

1:40:09 Kaluna, kaluna... Karma! Sorry. And karma for both of you. Wishing you the best. PS she likes puppies rather than the other animals were I thought you had a fabulous hedgehog The hedgehog was in this last news. Yes, yeah, I think the hedgehog performed well somebody wrote in saying fabulous headshot That's a bumper sticker right there jobs jobs Jobs and jobs let's vote for John karma Onward to Jeffrey Bartolotta in San Marcos, California. 23456

1:40:52 Thank you for your courage. Can I get a de-douching and some karma? Please call out Willie for not donating as a douchebag She is a gitmo nation lowlands she is from Gitmo Nation Lowlands and Claims, it wouldn't be Dutch like to donate to the show ah that's not true No That's not true brought this up before yeah the dutch diamond is reiterating You can tell me where I'm wrong The Dutch don't mind donating if it's not to a Dutch cause. Exactly, if its for dutch people we're not gonna do it screw em So she is wrong She used that as an excuse to buff them Yeah wrong! This wrong Alright deducing and karma for Jeff You've been de-douche'd you've got karma Thank you very much

1:41:46 Jeffrey Bartolotta in San Marcos, California. Oh let me say that was him. Thomas Butterick who sent a note in and he came in with two three four five sixes and Dayton you know let me go back to my email page And go to butter Rick which is down here sorry it takes second ah Butterick butterick butterick there It is hello Ohio folks. I oh Merry Christmas. I'm inept with PayPal and didn't attach a note I hope this donation helps push y'all through the holiday doldrums. Please welcome David Johnson to the No Agenda family, who I successfully hit in the mouth over Thanksgiving! Call out Samuel Butterick his brother... My brother is his... This is from Thomas. Call out Samuel Butterick as a douchebag because his Xbox is more important than value for value. Ohhhh. I request a jingle of your choice from each you and a healthy dose of karma

1:42:47 And, uh... in regards to Sir Ladyfinger's Night of the No Agenda Roundtable I should probably tell you. Yes? I think she's a paranoid thot. You've got karma. Give us an option we're gonna play some longer jingles for you at the end of this show Okay That sound good? Sounds good to me! Sounds good to me! I wish i knew the options Well, you know he says anything. Oh okay You just do it you do a jazz there's some moment of hand jazz at the end of the show I'd say 99% of the time these are fantastic little ditties that you put together on-the-fly On-the-fly with the listeners in mind yes

CHAPTER 23 / 41 Discussion

Year-End Donations, Ham Radio QSL Cards, PSK 31

The final round of major year-end donations is processed, featuring listeners from Rochester, San Jose, and Virginia. One host discusses his ham radio setup using FL Digi software and his QSL cards. The segment concludes with a "jobs karma" ritual for a donor in Richmond, Virginia, and a celebration of the "Value for Value" funding model.

rochester· san jose· ham radio· qsl card· psk 31· fl digi

1:43:32 To make them happy. Any new songs coming? No, no new songs. We need more songs people! Yeah the songs are fantastic Carl Haberger in Rochester New York came in with $222 and 22 cents and he says the following if I can just make this bigger Ah! Ah! Ah! Gents, I discovered your show earlier in the year thanks to JCD on Twit. I now find that show mostly unlistenable and don't miss an episode of No Agenda Thank you for the great work as my way of wishing you both a Merry Christmas I'm sharing my bonus with you thank you very much That's very cool

1:44:10 Please give me an Obama no, no medley looking forward to more brilliant deconstructions throughout 2016. We'll add some karma to that as well You've got karma That was a good one that's real that's pretty new Yeah, that's pretty. I never heard it. That's a good one It did wish I wish it was a little longer yeah, which I normally wouldn't say about anything all right All right Let's see we got Alex Simcox yes We got our sim because I'm trying to see if we got a note from him he has 20202 palindrome nice one Yeah, that's yeah. We don't have a note from I'd looked and looked alright Sorry, we open a and go to be Trevor mudge

1:45:07 in Ann Arbor, Michigan came in and he did send something. And I believe not here is that the Willamette guy? We got a lot of 200s and so I have you know, I try to put these things in kind of order. Mm hmm. It doesn't really help much, much. Your system is infallible! The system has issues. Yeah. Jeremy Gray in Gisborne New Zealand. No note. David Kaye in Tempe Arizona. Merry belated Christmas to you and your families. And let me slide this down... Come on, slide, slide.

1:45:52 That's it. The McKernan family in Roanoke, Virginia 200 and they sent a nice Christmas one of their the family Christmas card with the picture of the mom and daughter little boy and note I don't know why that dad was left out of this picture or the family picture is on the check Anyway, Christmas greetings from the whole McKiernan family. I love this show especially The Slave Scanner... The Slave Scan... The Slave Scanned also Dana Tips Tim has spent years telling the TSA he can't raise his arms. Oh, the tips. Okay, okay. Travel tips

1:46:41 Here is a new tip for something by theaters, security theater. If you're wearing a black brace no slave scanner... Black slave! A back brace, no slave scanner for you. Also that's interesting. Oh that is interesting! Yeah I didn't know that and his mini spiral infusion this fall... John this is really bad. This is not broadcasting for your 12 weeks. You're mumbling. Every time I went through TSA they automatically passed me

1:47:26 Opted me out. So just tell them you can't take it off Right keep up the good work gents, you know that now the TSA they've changed the rules They can force you to go through the slave scanner even if you want to opt out they can force you Did you know this? Yeah, yeah. This came up recently. Exactly. I like the back brace it's a little complicated to carry it around with me the rest of my journey and it's also kind of soliciting bad mojo Back break. So you're one of those guys? Yeah, I'll sit in a wheelchair It'll jinx it you bet get in one Onward I've known sir 10 CFR 50 appendix B and Dallas Oregon which of course is the quality assurance criteria for nuclear power plants and fuel reprocessing plants

1:48:17 Yes, and he has a note too. And this was printed on the computer so maybe I can read it. He's printed it on the computer in longhand. ITM Jensen, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! I can say that without being politically incorrect because I had four ancestors come over on the Mayflower. This donation puts me at baronet. I'd appreciate it if i could be granted the title Baronette of the Willamette Valley and also, if Eric DeShill would revise the map to indicate my relocation from Corvallis to Dallas Oregon. Finally took possession of the hay farm yesterday, I'll be traveling to Germany Frankfurt and Nuremberg on business next month and we'll try to get some photos and booty on the ground reports for you." Yeah from give me some photos of migrants pooping. It says boots on there guys it looks like booties. I'm looking forward to your continuing commentary during the run up to the elections as is everyone and the Obama administration's continuing efforts to nullify our constitutional rights

1:49:17 Yep. Guys, I cannot begin to tell you how much your research and deconstruction was helped me make sense of the craziness going on please keep on keeping it on i'd like to hear the following jingles Oh a team oh I haven't played that one in awhile Obama no Yes just any any generic one? I guess yes two to the head and can you see that juice okay hold on a second uh obama I'm having trouble today for some reason. You're probably hungover No, i'm not hungover at all! Oh, I got it. Okay Obama team America- sorry you have to give me the list again A Team Yeah, I got the a team no no no no yeah Two to the head Can you see the juice? So I have to get the no no no Play that one you just played I liked it No, play a different one okay

1:50:20 I'm just really sucking today to the head and juice. Okay, we can probably play this one first one looking for juicy for a rescue mission When the world is threatened the world needs help it calls on America And that's the story No You've got karma Tuffy James ke4 g IV a IV in Richmond, Virginia elector for golf India Victor 773 to Fox 5 Sierra Lima November 200 bucks and there's our last Socialism lot of people are giving us Christmas gift. I think appreciate tastic appreciate he sent us a note

1:51:16 He calls himself James Enrichment. It has been a while since my last donation, so please de-douche me here is a meager contribution to the best podcast in the universe you keep me informed and entertained then I laugh at my co workers as they watch and believe that media bull crap It'd be nice if you had an HF meetup sometime. Adam, take your buddy pole with you and the Airstream of consciousness. I would love to get both of you on my logbook." Hey! I'm on the air all the time. May I please get some badly needed jobs? Carmen don't forget he's de-douching first. Yes. 73s. Well listen iIm on PSK 31 on 20 meters almost all the time

1:51:56 So you have a card you send out? You have a card. I got a QSL card, sure do! Is it good-looking one is it got a funny cartoon on it? No comment Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! Karma I'll be on PSK 31 20 meters of today And I've got it I've got FL Digi set up so it alerts me when they recognize my call sign FL digi mm-hmm Wow oh, I felt did you that's the bomb it's the bomb is the cats but It is not that is the cats meow Oh whatever That's the kids butt okie dokie. Thank you this was great What a fantastic Christmas gift you executive producers and associate executive producers have given us? Thank you so much And and I think you can actually say

CHAPTER 24 / 41 Discussion

Star Wars Diversity, Gift Giving Strategies, Dennis Goad

The hosts address a listener's comment about the lack of diversity in Star Wars, specifically the role of the black stormtrooper as a "sanitation engineer." John Dvorak shares a personal strategy for holiday gift-giving, suggesting that husbands should sit down with their wives to create a list. A donation from Shilah Brown for her husband Dennis is acknowledged with a "boom shakalaka" jingle.

star wars· racism· sanitation engineer· christmas gifts· mimi dvorak· school

1:52:56 And I said, I think. Damn it! Oh that's interesting but you didn't say believe? No i don't want to say I believe. I don't want to say either one Here is what I do want to say You can use this as a Christmas special credit So I think... fuck I keep saying it now oh my god its horrible Im pretty sure that would be permissible John That you could call yourself an executive or associate executive producer of the no agenda show Christmas Special Well, you can do that for the last show too. Of course! Of course I didn't mention it but yes of course all right so do that and if anyone has any questions we're happy to vouch for you and please remember us for our Thursday show which will be on New Year's Eve Yes We Are Working Again. Devorac dot org slash N A And remember these holidays are just perfect for you to go out and propagate our formula Our formula is this... We hit people in the mouth Shut up! Shut Up!

1:54:03 Hey, two emails came in John. This is a live show as most people know that we recorded live on Thursdays and Sundays at 9am Gitmo Nation West Time So first a note about Star Wars I do think it's worth reading this from producer Tom Snyder Star Wars is racist the only black guy in the movie is a janitor Is this true John? Uh, yeah that's actually a joke. That they do it later... By the way let's stop with that I don't know this is another plot hole The guy stormtrooper, the black storm trooper comes out he told to gun people down He shooting somebody dies in front of him and decides to quit the business

1:54:47 And, but he's like a... He was very sensitive I guess. But he was part of the firing squad to kill a bunch of people. I don't see how this makes him a janitor? You don't normally give the janitors an AK-47 and tell them to gun down people. But later in the story they kept because it was kind of running gag that oh you know what did you do? Can you really do this? I dunno maybe. What did you there? They said I was sanitation engineer Okay, that was used as the punchline for what do we do with these people and put them in a trash chute? Okay. It was weak all right week so no

1:55:26 We got a letter from, did we read this note? I think we didn't do it. This is $250 donation that came in last show from Shilah Brown and there's a note I just ran into which is the donations to Christmas gift for her husband Dennis. Oh did we miss that? I guess so. I don't remember it and he's hard to shop for and never gives me any ideas for his gifts just like all men by the way I came...I don't want to keep belaboring or yacking away like this but I came up with a solution to that problem. This'll be the best gift that you'll ever get, Shiloh." I got some of my best gifts this year because instead of... Give us a list! Where's your list? What do you want? Give us a list. Everybody in the family give us a list. I never do the list.

1:56:12 So instead, I had- Hey John. I feel really bad if your family members sound like that. Yeah. Give us a list! Well it's just...I'm exaggerating. Okay But they're begging and begging and begging It's mostly in email so i don't have a voice for them. Give us a list give us a list okay? I didn't get..i never gave him a list This year, I gave him the list because I sat down with Mimi And talked over stuff which reminded me of things I do want Oh So in other words, sit down with your husband or find some way where you can talk to him and then with a pad and pen. You have your pad and pen and then he'll come up with the gift ideas uh... And you'll just tell everybody what his gift list is otherwise you're never gonna get one

1:56:56 Okay, she goes on to say she looks forward to the Wednesdays and Thursdays find herself constantly discussing the topics and the show throughout the week you provide a much-needed dose of sanity. And She wants a de-douching in karma for her husband Dennis and he's going back to school this coming year also like to request a boom shakalaka which okay I can You've been de-douched You've got Karma David didman just sent a note in

CHAPTER 25 / 41 Discussion

CAIR Political Strategy, 501c3 Lobbying, Muslim Voting Bloc

A coalition of Muslim organizations, including CAIR, held a press conference regarding their political strategy for the 2016 election. The speakers warned candidates like Donald Trump that "Islamophobia" would carry a political price. The hosts highlight a moment where a representative admits that while their 501c3 organizations cannot endorse candidates, other community organizations will be formed to do so.

cair· uscmo· donald trump· islamophobia· 501c3· lobbying

1:57:36 You were posing the question about what Islamophobia and Black Lives Matter have to do with each other. And I love, this is what i love about our show... Boots on the ground everywhere! I can add some information to your query The idea of black lives matter in Islamophobia as a political move on the part of black lives matter To get more people involved with the demonstration As best that I can tell the demonstrations were heavily dominated by US born African American and whites The Minneapolis BLM chapter is trying to bridge a gap between the East African Somali immigrant population who are Muslim and the U.S.-born African-American population in Minneapolis most of the East African immigrants are from Somalia and Muslim good point makes sense for Minnesota for them to do that I don't know if it works everywhere where they had these protests but let's keep our eye on this, this is good we need local coverage and lots of it

1:58:28 Very suspicious. So I was watching C-SPAN and there was a CARE, actually it was the United States...I think the group of Muslim organizations or the community of Muslim organizations of which CARE is a member And of course, it's interesting because they have a lot of political speech. A lot of political speech about if you are an Islamophobe we're not going to vote for you and we're going to be talking to Congress... You have to listen too I cut down to about 1 minute 15 but of course most of these groups can't lobby Congress because of their 5013C status

1:59:09 Some of them have a for status where they can lobby, but that also someone to kind of mention that I think in this clip. So if they're doing a lot of propaganda and of course they're obviously there to get rid of Donald Trump We're gonna use the ballot we're going to use the ballot To say we'll use the ballots to fight bigotry and this guy i think is from the nation of Islam not 100% sure he likes the word ballot oh yeah we are gonna do And so let it be hear and clear to all political candidates, be it Donald Trump or whoever else that indeed if you engage in Islamophobia if you engage in demagoguery and bigotry... Interesting. I don't think you can engage in Islamophobia. Islamophobia is a fear It's an irrational fear. I don't think you consciously engage in irrational fears

2:00:06 It's a misuse of the word at best. It's a misuse of the word. If you engage in Islamophobia, if you engage in demagoguery and bigotry You will pay a political price because we're gonna register our people and we're going to use our ballot And we're gonna take our souls to the polls and make sure Hey And just to clarify, none of our organizations including the USCMO is endorsing any candidate. So there will be another organization that might be formed from the community that will make that decision but we are

2:00:44 Oh, did I just hear that? Is that Deepak Chopra? Who was that? This is the guy from CARE. I like how he says but there will be another organization that will be formed that will be able to do this. There would be another organization that might be formed from the community that will make that decision but we are most of us are 501 C3 organizations So, but yes we are going to be engaged and as we say in November... They're kind of like giving away that they are cheaters. We remember If you as a political candidate choose to spew hatred bigotry and to vilify Muslim Americans You do so at your own political risk We will use every democratic means And political strategies To ensure that your candidacy never succeeds Alright Gotcha

CHAPTER 26 / 41 Discussion

Obama on Media Ratings, ISIL Savvy, Sloth Comparison

In an interview with NPR's Steve Inskeep, President Obama suggests that ISIL has a "very savvy media operation" that exploits cable news for ratings. The hosts mock the President's slow delivery, comparing him to a sloth from the movie "Zootopia." They criticize his assertion that the media is being "played" by terrorists to amplify their power and recruit young people.

barack obama· steve inskeep· npr· isil· cable news· ratings

2:01:34 So care, getting a big part of the media which came up in the year-end conversation between NPR's... what was the guy? Inskeep I think is his name and the president. And you know we kind of—I think it's in this clip where we kind of like Krauthammer's deconstruction that the president didn't really mean, that he isn't watching cable news but he was being arrogant. Like pfff... like of the plebs who get all hyped up about ISIS it's really not all bad just its media fault its all the medias fault

2:02:10 So this came up in his question and answer. What is the public missing about your strategy? And I say that simply because according to polls, you don't have very much approval for it. Well, what I think what's fair is that post Paris you had a saturation of news about the horrible attack there and ISIL combines viciousness with very savvy media operations. Wait a minute. What media operations do they have? Yeah, shut him down! They don't have media operations unless you're talking about... He says they do he must know if the president- He's probably talking about CNN! CNN is the Caliphate News Network. Very savvy media operations. Savvy? Savvy?! And as a consequence if you've been watching NBC should hire them if they're that savvy. They need to help. Television for the last- Wait a minute let me roll that back Is he really- this is nuts

2:03:12 He's saying that... By the way, he sees and this will come up right after the clip because I'll mention it. He talks like one of the sloths in that cartoon! He does all you need is a rubber stamp Oh i need to point out it was the DMV where the sloths were We had lots of notes people say it wasn't the post office It was the DMV And okay fine It looked the same Very savvy media operations Yes he's a sloth And as a consequence if you've been watching television for the last month God He's actually saying that that Isis is so media savvy that they are now of control of cable news This is he says if you have been watching television for The last one month If you've been watching television for the last

2:04:13 Month he's a stoner sloth God all you've been seeing all you've been hearing about is These guys with masks or black flags who are potentially coming to getcha So whose media savvy then? You referred to ISIL sophisticated media operation and also referred to what Americans are seeing in the American media Are you suggesting that the media are being played in a sense here look the is pursuing ratings. This is a legitimate news story, I think that it's up to the media to make a determination about how they want to cover this. There is no doubt that the actions of ISIL are designed to amplify their power and the threat that they pose. That helps them recruit, that adds in the twisted thoughts

2:05:13 some young person that they might want to have carry out an action, but somehow they're part of a larger movement. And so I think the American people... Wow! Did you hear that? He's got this death rasp in his breath when he's in between words listen and so wow whoa this is not good I think there's... He's so disposed of, you can clip that together. He's been taken over by a host body or something and inside he is streaming for help. Yeah but he knows he's inside. Yeah, he might be different person in there. The other Obama! Listen to this, the other Obama trying to get out.

CHAPTER 27 / 41 Discussion

ISIS Organ Harvesting, Reuters Report, Camel Urine Scam

A Reuters report claims that ISIS religious scholars have sanctioned the harvesting of human organs from living captives to save Muslim lives. While the report admits the document cannot be independently verified, it raises fears of organ trafficking. This transitions into a bizarre story from Saudi Arabia where a man was caught selling his own urine as "camel urine" for medicinal and cosmetic use.

isis· organ harvesting· reuters· fatwa· saudi arabia· camel urine

2:06:13 Help! Get me out, Valerie Jarrett's evil. The American people absorb that understandably are of concern. Alright, fine. Did the media heed the President's warning? No! No, of course not. This... a couple great reports came out this must be my most favorite of the Christmas holiday spirit. A ghoulish revelation from the archives of Islamic State The jihadist group sanctioning the harvest of human organs Woohoo! Documents seized by the U.S.A. This is great! You got this I didn't get it but I know- I had to search high and low Best of human organs. Document seized and actually the report is so good

2:06:56 Because you'll hear around three quarters of the way through that it's alleged, we have no confirmation. We're not sure but made a great headline didn't it? That's pretty much what this is! A ghoulish revelation from the archives of Islamic State The jihadist group sanctioning the harvest of human organs Documents seized in a US commando raid reviewed exclusively by Reuters shows a ruling from ISIS religious scholars that taking organs from a living captive to save a Muslim's life even if fatal for the prisoner is permitted. expensive English for... they didn't do it. They just said, it's okay to do it and they found that in some dude's notebook. The group's harsh interpretation of Islamic law is rejected by the overwhelming majority of Muslims Reuters has not been able to independently verify the document US officials say was among a trove of data seized when special forces killed top ISIS financier last May Oh! That's when they got the CFO John That-they got the rules for organ transplants

2:07:57 This is great. They probably did the numbers on a spreadsheet Yeah, he's like this is much cheaper The religious ruling or fatwa does not offer proof that ISIS has engaged in organ harvesting Oh But raises fears the jihadists may engage an organ trafficking as a source of revenue yeah, yeah, oh there's a booming business It's just it's so... So much less complicated than oil. Terabytes of data? Oh, really? But the translated documents reviewed by Reuters are the first to show Islamic State's legal justifications for practices ranging from organ harvesting to the rape of female captives. The documents bear the seal of the Islamic State's Research and Fatwa Committee, which a U.S. official says reports directly to the group's leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. This is such a... Research and fatwa committee? We're having a meeting! Hello time for research and fatwa committee! What on your agenda?!

2:09:04 Yeah, so they're sanctioned. So it could be coming up there's sanction to harvest organs It's okay if you can harvest organs go ahead gonna buy these organs know what this is This is not this is a bad signal to read a cat It's time to make some videos. That's right, that's exactly what it is. No one wants to talk to her directly Of course not! You can't have a trail no we want we want to have Rita Kadd thinking oh yes let me think about it What kind of...what are they gonna do? Roll out a cart full of hearts and livers and spleens and say We've got these for sale today at Wild Arab Hot Shot

2:09:47 The organ donor dealer. Let me tell you buddy crazy Arab is insane Crazy Eddie crazy Arab no crazy Arab crazy Arab crazy hair of this insane Insane prices for hearts on sale I was reading, somebody...I think someone sent me a note. Do you remember we were looking at the business opportunity about shampoo made out of camel urine? Remember that and... And one of the great concepts... So there was... ...show. There's a guy in Saudi Arabia and he was selling camel urine

2:10:31 in shampoo and handy drink size bottles. I believe people also drink that sometimes. They're smuggling it too, the United States. Right right right. So it turns out this guy was selling his own urine. He's selling his own urine? Oh my God. There's another sucker! It is so much more disgusting than camel urine, honestly I can't believe someone would drink that dregs. The guy gets a big kick out of it like some pervert selling his pee Yeah yeah no it's camel urine yeah...yeah yeah yeah it's camel urine But I'm just disgusted at that thought I've been thinking you're slurping down some wonderful camel urine and it's human urine oh my gosh that's horrible We're washing your hair

CHAPTER 28 / 41 Discussion

European Terror Warnings, Seymour Hersh, Joint Chiefs of Staff

Police in Vienna and other European cities have issued warnings of potential terror attacks based on "friendly intelligence." Meanwhile, a new article by Seymour Hersh in the London Review of Books alleges that the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff under General Dempsey bypassed the White House to provide intelligence to the Syrian government. The goal was reportedly to prevent an ISIS takeover of Syria.

vienna· seymour hersh· joint chiefs of staff· general dempsey· assad· turkey

2:11:20 Anyway, to wrap up our caliphate segment on my end of course we needed to scare everybody in the Federated United States of Europe and this was the report over there on Euronews which is spread far and wide. Several European cities are being warned of a possible terror attack that is coming from police in Vienna they received a warning from a friendly intelligence service and they are now taking the necessary precautions precautions just to make sure that nothing happens. There's increased vigilance in terms of empty suitcases and bags, a lot of people traveling obviously. Check the suitcases, shut up slaves! And they are making sure that high public events with a lot of people are also being monitored closely but how much credence should people put in this especially law enforcement? Well we don't know the source of this warning it may say a friendly intelligence service

2:12:15 Yeah, friendly intelligence. They don't know nothing but just talking in the wind Just trying to scare people But there was something real that happened now a couple of things that were pretty interesting regarding Erdogan and the Ottoman Empire Now all eyes are on Turkey as far as I'm concerned after the Seymour Hersh article where he very clearly states That it was Turkey who co-opted the whole idea of the United States arming moderate rebels And, you know, the constant supply of really ammunition is what you need to look at is coming from Turkey. There's a lot of how the generals and everyone was sneaking information through a back route to... You know? John Maass Yes I have some Hirsch clips. Adam Rippe Oh let's do this please because then yeah that's important because then... Let's start with... John Maass Okay well let's start with... Adam Rippe Let's do that before I do Turkey it's good. Let's do that. John Maass Okay do the... Then I have a Hirsch on... Adam Rippe So let's talk about Hirsch Seymour Hirsch as everybody knows. John Maass Yeah very famous writer,

2:13:11 researcher invest in a surprise winning He is, and he always does these off-the-wall reports that are just get everybody all upset but they try not to make a big deal out of them because maybe if nobody says anything they won't read it. So I did the piece in the London Book Review which Soros has published now because they kicked him out of United States and won't let him publish. Let's just review...I think there's a quick refresher clip The previous big expose Hirsch did everybody scoffed at Right? Yeah, they scoff at all this stuff. It's in every... This is I think Mike Morrell Every aspect of the story he tells right the Pakistanis were not holding Bin Laden under house arrest and so this is the clip where just goes on and on about how Hirsch was wrong about the Osama bin Laden raid He said that thing was a phony everybody knew about it Pakistan knew anything went on a very elaborate article I think it ran into The New Yorker

2:14:12 And so this one says that...this is a weirder one because it says that the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Dempsey were slipping intelligence information into Germany and other Russia. Right, and the German BND these are the guys they're the intelligence organization in Europe They're the guys that were slipping that information back to Assad's guys To tell them what was going on so they knew kind of what to expect is yeah The general US generals are trying to tamper it down the u.s Generals felt that if this Assad went like we wanted him, too They would be stuck with Isis run in the country and it'd make matters even worse than they are So they pull a kind of a trick and even though its always all its trees And as this and his dad it probably isn't

2:15:00 But let's play Hirsch's discussion, initial discussion which is the clip that says what? Hirsch on Turkey. Hirsch on the new chief of staff. As this went on, Hirsch in his article says... But distressing that the new chief of staff is nothing like Dempsey, who we've talked about in the past as supposedly a good guy. The guy that's... Yeah, who was that new guy again? We haven't heard much from him. Well his name will be mentioned but the new guy is just lockstep whatever Valerie Jarrett says and Obama says and the Kagan say it's fine with him he doesn't give a crap. Dunford. Dunford. And he's just useless as tits on a bull and Hirsch says so.

CHAPTER 29 / 41 Discussion

Seymour Hersh on Amy Goodman, General Dunford, Saudi Farce

Seymour Hersh appears on "Democracy Now!" to discuss his latest reporting on the Pentagon's internal dissent regarding Syria. He criticizes the new Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Dunford, and Secretary of Defense Ash Carter for following the "party line." Hersh also labels the U.S. alliance with Saudi Arabia and Qatar a "farce" given their roles in funding extremist groups.

seymour hersh· amy gman· general dunford· ash carter· saudi arabia· qatar

2:15:41 A nice one. National terrorism, and I can't tell you how many people I know inside the military in the intelligence community as loyal to America as you want it—want to be think our first move after 9-11 probably should have been to Moscow and say, what can you tell us about terrorism? We've got it right here. And you had it for a long time. Let's talk about it. You have to separate some issues But we don't seem to be very good. We seem to live in a world of propaganda and likes and dislikes above our own national interests." I want to go back to your—the key point that you make in this piece, it's a kind of coup policy with the Joint Chiefs of Staff conducting a very different policy than President Obama was espousing. What has the White House—how have they responded to your piece if they have?

2:16:24 I don't think they want to hear about it. He's in Hawaii, and the mainstream press is sort of like, you know, what? This can't be! It was an anonymous source. And you know the drill. You and I have been talking since 9-11 every time we do a story. One of things that we talk about is—one reason why I'm delighted to go on your show is at least here I can have more than three or four sentences And General Dempsey, him leaving— Did you edit that? No. As he says, oh it's so nice to have three or four sentences, she cuts them off right away! That's great! Since 9-11 every time I do a story and one of the things we talk about is one of the reasons why I'm delighted to go on your show is at least here I can have more than three or four sentences. And General Dempsey, him leaving what this means for their policy or has overall

2:17:14 the policy shifted to what the joint chiefs of staff under Dempsey wanted to begin with. There's a new leadership in the Pentagon. And both generals—the new chairman, Dunford, has testified a couple of times—I write about this at the end of my piece—and following the party line totally, which is that Russia doesn't—is not bombing any Islamic states and that there are moderates and we can pull it out with the moderates. The new secretary of defense is on the same point Ash Carter has said a few times in testimony when he gave his speech at Harvard the other week which he basically said followed the party line or followed the president's line dutifully. And I guess that, you know—if you want to be in that job, you have to do so. And it's sort of interesting to me that at some point some other military leaders decided that they couldn't follow the policy because it was nonsensical and did something about it.

2:18:13 Well, he pretty much explained the whole thing right there. Nonsensical! Yeah what are you supposed to do? It's like the Woody Allen movie Bananas The first thing the new dictator asks people to do is have to wear their underwear on the outside of your pants The John C. Dvorak version of the Obama White House policy? Well, he goes on and this will probably be a good setup for your little Turkey exposition. He goes on and talks about Turkey a little bit with this discussion. Last question about Turkey—the role it has played It's—this is a national disgrace, that we're not able. And this president—I think it—I just don't know why he just in the last—after the climate summit he literally has had a private meeting with Erdogan, the head of Turkey. Erdoğan? Erdogan, yes.

2:19:07 Wow, that's rich Amy Goodman correcting somebody on pronunciation Amy Goodman really address Erdogan don't you know do what do you know it's erdogan. That was rude by the way That was just purely rude Yeah. It was rude. has been that he has, particularly in Hatay province—which is a contested province Syria controls—those—the border has been open for the Islamic groups. And he's not only been funneling—he's been funneling arms and money to the most extreme groups for years. We know about it. There's been a lot of intelligence reporting on it.

2:20:00 His planes, once he began to join—allegedly join with us in flying out our combat missions. One of the first targets was, of course, the opposition Kurds who are the best fighters inside Syria against the Islamic State. But he also bombed some of the Syrian Army's own specific units, exactly the contrary opposite of what was—what he said to do and what was being reported in the press. He wasn't helping us. And Saudi Arabia's role? A U.S., other ally here in the region? Well, this is part of the great farce of our old time. You know that this UN meeting it's going to take the views of Saudi Arabia and Qatar very seriously when both of those countries have been the leading exporters of money and in case in the case of Qatar people into the war in Syria on behalf of the Islamic group That is a reasonably good lead-in

CHAPTER 30 / 41 Discussion

Turkey Cyber Attacks, Erdogan Heroics, Cyprus Peace Talks

Turkey has been hit by a wave of massive cyber attacks targeting banks and government offices, with the group Anonymous claiming responsibility. In a separate event, President Erdogan was filmed "talking down" a suicidal man on the Bosphorus Bridge. Additionally, the leaders of the Greek and Turkish communities in Cyprus have delivered a joint Christmas message, signaling progress in reunification talks.

recep tayyip erdogan· turkey· anonymous· ddos· bosphorus bridge· cyprus

2:20:52 And we've had our eye on Turkey for a while, just seeing all these different moves being made. And then when they alienated Russia the whole new world opened up everything shifted dramatically and Russia now... Is she gonna make noises the whole time? I'm sorry! Just little flatulence You know, we have Turkey really wanting to recapture the Ottoman Empire and we have the Czech...let's see. The leader of Czechoslovakia, the Czech president... Yeah I think there is ISIS thinking go on and go into Turkey and then Turkey would take over the whole movement! That is what they think. And I think there is something to it if they think that I am going to agree

2:21:38 Czech President Milos Zeman called the current wave of refugees to Europe, quote an organized invasion. Then he is I believe pointing subtly at Turkey Now, knowing that we have the Joint Chiefs and they took their kind of back route and started doing things. There may be other organizations US organizations I'm looking at State Department in particular who are onto the Turkey game and want to do something about it because Erdogan is becoming dangerous and I didn't realize this But we've been messing with him. I'm pretty sure it's us. Banking systems and government offices have been especially badly hit on a day of worsening cyber chaos in Turkey since December the 14th, the government has been struggling with waves of hacks into its systems and big businesses suffered too. Ministers say that for the moment there is only limited amount of things they can do It is hard to determine where these attacks are coming from With detailed work will be understood whether these attacks are carried out by hackers

2:22:37 or by certain groups in a country. However, the claims of international activists anonymous to be at war with Ankara for its alleged support of ISIL were reinforced with them claiming responsibility for the Christmas Day escalation their capacities for launching cyber attacks is well known and Turks will be expecting action from their government to get things working again quickly." So banks retail all having problems with with cybercrimes DDoS which could be I mean it's under the anonymous banner they've claimed it But that's a very easy cover. Anonymous is... It's us, it's us messing with them. David Gardner Probably well, it's either us or could be the Iranians. They're the hot shot attackers of DDoS guys in the Middle East. John Glaser Yeah but the Iranians are more subtle and they're more subtle we DDoS. We like our cars you know? They're not subtle sleek machines now we come up with a tractor Hummer. David Gardner Or could be the Russians

2:23:31 Yeah, could be. Could be retaliation but people are now eyes are on Turkey and so what does Erdogan do? This is great! A dramatic scene on Istanbul's Bosphorus Bridge as this would-be suicide is talked down by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Erdogan's entourage happened to be crossing the bridge as the man was preparing to jump The president's bodyguards approached him and Erdogan spoke to him through his car window This is really great Big hero, this guy apparently is on the Bosporus Bridge wanting to jump off. He sends his bodyguards out to go rouse the guy and then drag him over to his window, and then the big hero president is going to say oh man you shouldn't do this. The man soon climbed back over the railing and spoke to Erdogan in his car at one point kissing him on his hand Kissing the ring! Turkey's Anadolu news agency reports that Vezir Çatrış is from Turkey's eastern Siyit province And has family trouble Erdogan gave instructions for officials to help solve his problems before driving off Solve his problems

2:24:35 Solve that peasant's problems, his family problems. Well he is from the eastern part of the country which is the big supporter...only reason Erdogan's in it because the eastern part of Turkey sticks to Hicksville all voted for him they just won't vote for anybody else. Yeah cost like 10 bucks to fix that guy's problem. But this all went under or kind of covered over some interesting news about Cyprus. For the first time, the leaders of the Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot communities have delivered a joint televised message for Christmas They spoke initially in their own languages and then in each other's to express their hopes for peace in a reunited country. For more than seven months talks have been ongoing over reuniting the two sides of the island The Turkish-controlled north broke away in 1974 after a Greek inspired coup

2:25:32 So if these guys, it seems that they're all making nice and they should have something together. And they say it at the most what seven months or something? Yeah. But this would be very interesting for the Ottoman Empire. This opens up a whole lot of routes for Erdogan particularly for different oil routes all kinds of things trade routes in general And, you know...and wow! When you look at the map. You know, Constantinople, Istanbul used to be the center of the map. It was the center of the world, the center of the known universe. Everyone's out there thinking Putin is crazy trying to bring back...bring back this USSR. Oh yes he wants a retribution. No no please look at Erdogan so if they... Yeah and the Turks are all in on this they love the idea we've been demeaned

CHAPTER 31 / 41 Discussion

Obama Religious Identity, Daniel Pipes, State Department Human Rights

The hosts discuss long-standing theories regarding President Obama's religious identity, referencing the work of Daniel Pipes. This leads to a report on the State Department inflating the human rights rankings of Oman and Malaysia. These upgrades were allegedly made to facilitate the Iran nuclear deal and the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade pact, despite evidence of forced labor and human trafficking.

barack obama· daniel pipes· oman· malaysia· human trafficking· tpp

2:26:29 Yeah, they're... get back to their old ways. Yeah I agree with the whole thesis. It's Erdogan not Putin and we're in bed with Erdogan? You know everything all this leads up to-I hate to say this because it sounds dumb but it all leads me to believe that Obama is a Muslim! Well yeah there's enough evidence. I mean there's enough evidence but I would recommend people read the Daniel Pipes Look up Daniel Pipes, danielpipes.org or something like that This guy is a kind of dangerous writer very anti-Muslim Jew who's actually over the Hoover Institute right now I've corresponded with him for years and he has it and he told me some stuff That's just like whoa really care for example i think has daniel pipes dot com go really oh that's yeah i think so that's why i don't know if they're still going on but used to but He's got a long piece

2:27:28 on obama why he's a muslim and it is very interesting in there when you combine with the stuff that everybody else can notices and kind of pushes off late takes their brains off he does certain things at time of the year we do these things in doesn't wear his jewelry and then step this refers to does really is not connected any christian church that we know of even though it claims be a christian but there's no church was the church is not going to need you go to church and uh... So, I brought this up. You know, I know this Muslim who claims that she can see...spot a Muslim a mile away. She's a Muslim because I can tell the way they walk, I can tell where they stand and it goes on and on. So, I asked her, I said is Obama a Muslim? And she had...her answer was kind of surprising. She says you know, I can't really tell but Michelle might be. Interesting. Yeah.

2:28:26 And what is it? Well, that's as far as I can go. I like that. No, I love this one. It does sound crazy but coming from you would put on a whole new slant well if he keeps back in these Muslim operations and in fact there's a couple of instances recently with both the TPP and some other action going on in Europe that was kind of interesting let's see...I have a clip on this I think this is State Department douchebag actions Wait a minute. Ah, we hadn't seen that clip come in earlier! Internal State Department documents show in the months of talks leading up to the Iran nuclear deal the U.S. inflated the human rights ranking of Oman— Right. —in order to reward a close Arab ally for helping broker the historic agreement.

2:29:14 According to Reuters, the documents show the State Department overruled its own staff's assessments of Oman's forced labor and human trafficking abuses and intervened to boost Oman's humans rights ranking in a congressionally mandated report. This news comes after allegations this summer that the State Department also upgraded Malaysia's human trafficking rating to ease passage of the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact. She goes on to mention that Malaysia was number one on the list of the worst, which is apparently against the law to trade with. They are our own laws so they just changed their rankings. Yeah it's that easy! Of course. That easy yeah well that was very suspicious indeed both those countries of course Malaysia is basically a Muslim country even though has a bunch of Buddhists

CHAPTER 32 / 41 Discussion

ISIS Threatens Israel, Zaharan Alloush Death, Chemical Weapons

A new audio message purportedly from ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi threatens Israel for the first time, claiming Palestine will be a "graveyard" for Israelis. In Syria, an airstrike killed Zaharan Alloush, the leader of the Saudi-backed Jaish al-Islam group. While some reports attribute the strike to Russia, local producers claim it was a Syrian Air Force operation.

isis· israel· zaharan alloush· jaish al-islam· damascus· chemical weapons

2:30:02 And Indonesia, of course is the biggest and then Oman and all these other places are all 100%. There was something else that happened that we've been talking about for a while. And not only was it unexpected this report that came out—and we've mentioned for a long time—why is ISIS not threatening Israel? Why is that not happening? And this is a very weird report from Reuters, and I think there was a similar report on CNN which i don't have. Where they lump two stories together so the ISIS threatening Israel and well listen to the report very strange combo. This video footage posted on social media purports to show the aftermath of a Russian air strike in Syria on Friday

2:30:45 The makers of the video claim that more than 100 vehicles were destroyed in the strike in the northern suburbs of Aleppo. About a dozen bodies are seen laid out on the ground in the footage. Russia's defense ministry has released this footage showing its air force hitting what it says are ISIL targets in Syria, including oil tankers and militants' headquarters, training center, weapons warehouse and hideaway. Meanwhile, a new message purporting to come from ISIL leader warned that Israelis must expect strikes. Palestine will be your graveyard, says the voice described as being that of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. The recording could not be verified." Now it doesn't matter if it can be verified or not, this is all theatre anyway but that's a strange combination of stories I did receive a note from Sub7zero who was in Syria one of our producers

2:31:40 He's of course no longer in Damascus, he is in Latakia which has been under attack as well. I'll just read this to you in the morning, Adam. About the death of the leader Jaish al-Islam You probably heard by now an airstrike earlier today targeted a meeting for the leaders Of few jihadist groups East Damascus among the dead Zaharan Alush The leader of Jaish al Islam The army of Islam A terrorist group that is in reality part of the al Nusra Front He's known for putting women and old people of ethnic minorities In cages on rooftops as human shields against air strikes

2:32:16 And he sends me a picture, it's really sad. Women and children in a cage on the top of a roof. Wow! Yeah I'll send you... But then the show notes. Yeah i will. And he might have-I think these are his pictures too some of them and he might have been behind that chemical attack in 2013 interesting He was Saudi Arabia's guy in the region and as dangerous as Al Qaeda's Abu Muhammad al Julani if not more I want to emphasize that the attack was a Syrian air strike, not a Russian one. It's being misreported it's disinformation. He said the Syrians did the strike not the Russians so i don't know if that sheds any light on the report being tied in with the russians

2:32:57 You know, something strange. Very very strange that they lump those two together. I mean for ISIS to threaten Israel? That's the first time! Why...that should be headlines. Yeah, buried, buried, buried, buried. Now Nacho mentioned he talks about that guy who was dead may have been responsible for the chemical attacks which of course is a meme that Bashar Assad is the one who did this. And it's still a meme, we can't get it off the radar as a meme and just stuck there people gas his own people which has been disproven over and over again I got another disproven witness not a witness per se but the guy who likes to get out there and talk about this Wilkerson guy Colonel Wilkerson the guy who was

CHAPTER 33 / 41 Discussion

Colonel Wilkerson on Syria, Chemical Attacks, EU Visa-Free Travel

Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, former chief of staff to Colin Powell, expresses skepticism regarding claims that Bashar al-Assad used chemical weapons. He suggests the evidence points toward other parties in Syria. Meanwhile, the EU Commission has recommended visa-free travel for citizens of Georgia and Ukraine, a move the hosts suspect is intended to pressure Russia.

lawrence wilkerson· bashar al-assad· chemical weapons· georgia· ukraine· eu

2:33:41 Powell's chief of staff and is on the circuit bitching and moaning about how Powell was set up, and Cheney would come in and rewrite the speeches. Here he is on some very obscure I don't even know where the source of this is. I can't remember it, but here he is talking about the chemical attacks supposedly by Assad. For example—let me give you a vivid example and tell you how I looked at the immediate reports that Bashar al-Assad had used chemical weapons in Syria years or so ago.

2:34:19 I'll believe it when I see evidence that it actually happened. And you know, I went to every person I knew in the intelligence community and every person outside of the United States I knew to include two people who were in Syria at the time and I knew what was going on and I respected their vision and their knowledge None of them could confirm for me, not a single one that Bashar al-Assad used those chemical weapons. Instead there were possibilities they were used by other parties in Syria as well as Bashar al-Assad and frankly the evidence looked more strongly for other parties than the president

2:34:58 So I still think there is high potential for this kind of manipulation of intelligence, this kind of fabrication of intelligence and this kind of refusal to take dissent in the leadership in this country right now today. And I'll tell you very seriously, I'm very skeptical of the intelligence establishment and what it says." So he's not a happy camper? No no You know, there's some strange stuff happening. I'm just going to tie this one thing in and then have one more clip i want to play after Victoria Nuland-Kagan went to Georgia and Ukraine now both the EU Commission has recommended visa free travel for the citizens of Georgia and Ukraine into Europe then I'm thinking you know if you want to put some pressure on to

2:35:53 Russia, you have those people go out and come back as radicalized jihadis sitting right there on Russia's border. And they don't have to show their passports, so there's no tracking. It's where all of Europe is shutting down now the EU says but you know what? It's a good idea to have citizens of Georgia and Ukraine come in here without a visa. That doesn't make any sense at all! I think it's for the reverse travel. Well definitely he has something with Russia but i dont know if its for the jihadi thing...I dunno

CHAPTER 34 / 41 Discussion

Matt Lee vs John Kirby, State Department Briefing, Assad Policy

Associated Press reporter Matt Lee confronts State Department spokesperson John Kirby over the U.S. policy on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Lee points out that the latest UN resolution does not explicitly require Assad to leave power. Kirby struggles to explain the "transition process," leading to a heated exchange about whether the U.S. policy has effectively shifted from "Assad must go" to "Assad stays" for the time being.

matt lee· john kirby· state department· assad· syria· diplomacy

2:36:30 But that is very suspicious. There's just zero reporting going on around this time of year, so it was very hard to get anything to dig my teeth into. I do have the clip I wanted to play of Matt Lee who is back...we didn't play this on the last show. Matt Lee is back in the State Department he is of Associated Press one of the best journalists his reporting does his reporting and his investigation is never represented in his actual reporting in the printed word, I feel. It's much more fun to listen how he gets information out of douchebags like John Kirby spokeshole for the United States State Department. Is not going to further your policy of getting rid of Assad? Because our policy there has to be a political solution not a military one When the secretary came into office his entire point on Syria was that you had to change the calculation

2:37:22 for Assad on the battlefield. Change the, to do things that change his calculation? That has not worked. He's still there. His calculation hasn't changed. You're signing onto a Russian plan, am I right, that says nothing about Assad, correct?" I actually, I think I'd take issue with some of what you just said but there's so much in there. So look- How about this part? Does it mention Assad? Hang on a second. I like that last question. Does it mention Assad and does he stop after that? This is about the United Nations agreement where it says nothing about Assad leaving. And the resolution that you plan on signing tomorrow. I'm not going to get ahead of a resolution that hasn't been solidified yet Justin. I just won't do it. So look, um...a couple big points here that I'd like to make

2:38:11 This is a guy in trouble. This is nice to listen to. He just shouldn't be doing this job, they should put one of the women back. Oh absolutely! This is the wrong guy for the job I concur Our view about Assad and his future has not changed We still believe that he cannot be apart of the future of Syria No let me no please let me finish Let me finish John you see it's our view It's our belief It is. That is our policy, it has not changed but the Secretary has also said and you've heard him yourself over... At the same time as you say that though, you talk about how long he stays and in what position he stays In what capacity? And what capacity he stays Is-is-is-has not yet been decided If you want to solve this thing What I'm trying to say is that The key word in those phrases is STAYS Not GOES

2:39:00 Yeah, right. Like you come to look at if you come if you come to stay in my house My expectation is eventually you're gonna go well You know what they say? That's not quite the same they didn't invite the guy to stay for a few days He's been the ruler of the country for decades about fish and guests Right okay, right so we understand that you know that during at least part of this political transition process, I've said this before. There hasn't been decisions made about whether he leaves on day one week one month one the secretary said that himself

2:39:39 But that he has to go, that he has to give up power. That he cannot be the leader of Syria going forward is not in dispute in terms of American policy. This is just this is the third gathering of the ISSG I fully expect there will be more There is still disparity inside the ISSG about Assad and his future no question about that nobody's arguing about that you know You keep it again It's fair for you to say well there's nothing in the process I don't see it Fair but But the process is still fairly nationed in development. No, it's not! It's three years old based on the Geneva... I know and understand that but there has been zero movement on Assad for three years Exactly That report will never make the light of day It just did Thank you And that's how this show works I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab

CHAPTER 35 / 41 Discussion

Final Donor Credits, Birthday Shoutouts, Global Listenership

The final segment of the show features a rapid-fire reading of donors from around the world, including Stockholm, Zurich, Israel, and Calgary. The hosts provide birthday shoutouts for several listeners and their spouses. They thank the "No Agenda" community for their continued support through the "Value for Value" model, which allows the show to remain independent and ad-free.

stockholm· zurich· israel· calgary· oakland· birthday

2:40:38 A lot of people to thank today for show 785 I believe it is air and start with Eric our Eric e r i k a h r s j o It's a Swedish name. He's in Stockholm RCO RCO now our show our show not his show but our show our show Eric our show and Stockholm Sarah Frymuth in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 1-2-3-4-5 Mr and Mrs Funny Farm in...

2:41:16 Oregon, Oregon. Excuse me 12345 Anonymous 10401 Eric Blackwell in Temecula California 100 Lon Baker in Walnut Creek California 100 Crocutta Computer Services CROCUTA in Pacifica California gonna run here $100 Patrick Hopel Or Hoppel and Delafield, Wisconsin $100 Arthur Gobbitz, Zondom who I believe is a knight. I think he is. He might be Sir Arthur which would be the perfect name William Granger in Maryland Mary in Indiana followed by Fabian Kaiser in Zurich Switzerland with the same 999 thing What did he say here?

2:42:06 Says your incessant whining about low donations finally got to me. See? Whining helps! I've been a douchebag for too long, he says from Zurich Last year you guys saved my sanity while playing- While I was laying in the hospital bed like a turtle with a broken back Inundated by 24 hour mainstream media propaganda Have to side with Adam about the unintended consequences of self driving robot cars Aha! Team Curry! Team Adam That's right Guy Boasie, Sir Guy Boasie. Guy Boasie, Sir Guy Boasie. Guy Boasie in Rehovot, Illinois. Israel! No, it's real. It says IL which is the... Yeah talk to Eric. Sorry no that's not what he's gonna do about it, he just loses from the spreadsheet

2:42:55 In Israel, yes he's in Israel. Sir Jim Mann in Ringo Louisiana 77-77 sir ZP of Lusitania in Lisbon Portugal 75 Michael Greer in Hunlaw Creek, Pennsylvania. 6969. The Greers! Yes, Mike and Sarah. Black Knights are inside jobs. This is Seattle Washington. He's in with... SACA6s. SACA6s. 666-66. Jeff Zimmerman in Cranberry Township, Pennsylvania 6033. Damien Barrios

2:43:33 Barrios in Scottsdale, Arizona 5678. Aaron Murphy in Rio Rancho New Mexico 5555 Vladimir Landman is Sioux City Iowa... Aaron becomes a knight today by the way. Aaron? Yeah Aaron Murphy Oh He gets knighted. Please add fried bread to the mutton and mead I'll put it in there frybread It's just frybread Well he wants with the mutton and mead maybe should be fried bread and mead or maybe fried bread mutton and mead I don't know. Okay, it's your job. Vladimir Landman in Sioux City just got him Michael Popesh one of the two incoming Georgia 5510 Josh McDonald 5510 parts unknown Tyler Sink in Benton Illinois 5510 Dennis Goad

2:44:27 and Bettendorf, Iowa 5432. Kevin Payne sir Kevin Payne to you in Chantilly Virginia 5432 Adam Wiesner in Green Bay Wisconsin go Packard 5280 Bill Hudak in Timonium Maryland 5280 Paul St Laurent in Renton Washington 5250 Sir Gray of Grimerica The GrimErica podcast, yeah. Calgary, Alberta 5150. Jefferson C Post in Easton Massachusetts 5121 Andrew no last name in Woody Point Australia 51 Don Poplow in Brampton Ontario Canada 51

2:45:11 Jeff Anderson in Sewells Point, Florida. 5015 and now the following names in order of the spreadsheet will be given out as donors of $50 exactly starting with Matthew Davis in Beaverton Oregon, Elliot Bovey in St Paul Minnesota Dennis Price in Pine Grove California Monica Lesser Dame Monica Lansing in Drayton Valley Alberta Canada Alejandro Vasquez in Denver. Ashley Blanco in Mayfield Heights, there's a birthday there too by the way. 50 is also a birthday for Matthew Davis. Gerald Inabonet in Union South Carolina or Inabonnet was probably what they pronounced him. Sir Peter Totes and parts unknown 50 Ross Turpin Troy Kansas 50 Shad Rich without the Abendigo as parts unknown Dan Donald Napier in Chicago

2:46:09 Bryn Evans in Berwick, Victoria Australia. James Hummert in Richmond Heights Missouri Andrew Dawson in Wantama, another Victoria Australia screwball sounding town We love you. Sir John Adams in Southport, Connecticut and sir Alan Bean finishes it off over here in Oak Town Oakland California. Very nice. I thank all these folks for their support Can you do me a favor? Can you turn down your mic by two dog biscuits Yeah was that yelling No its maybe something changed but your really overdriving some

CHAPTER 36 / 41 Discussion

Technical Difficulties, Pilot Licenses, Knighting Ceremony

The hosts deal with minor technical issues regarding microphone levels and "dog biscuits." They discuss the Willamette Valley in Oregon, noting its reputation for Pinot Noir and its history as a location for flight training. A final knighting ceremony is held for the day's top donors, officially welcoming them to the "No Agenda Round Table."

sound engineering· willamette valley· pinot noir· pilot license· knighting

2:46:48 They sound better now. Yeah, talk for a second yeah talking talking talking want me to start over I can start no No just just one more dog biscuit okay down we go all right now talk hello I'm talking you are a sound engineers nightmare. Yeah Well my favorite gags is there sit there because I can do this without anybody noticing is making this sound Right. Thank you all very much, all producers of the best podcasting universe. Thank you thank I just can't say it enough. Thank you this has been a great Christmas really appreciate the help especially people who came in under $50 which

2:47:27 Most of them do for reasons of anonymity and, of course a lot of people on the monthlies or the weeklies Or per show I recommend everybody to check out a subscription And if you have a subscription look into it because sometimes PayPal just gets rid of it and doesn't inform you. And I do want to read out a couple of things Ashley Blanco gave 50 for her and got the birthday call we should read It's a it's when we just expand it so it's all here. Please wish my very sex spin sexy husband Chris A happy 40th his birthday is on December 20 He's truly the most wonderful man I know and I love him more and more every day Especially loves them get this for hitting her in the mouth two years ago. Oh, that's beautiful

2:48:16 He hit me in the mouth, I love him so. This is like a good caveman kind of thing People listen to this show for the first time and wonder what the... What are they? We go out we hit people in the mouth that's our formula They talking about it Yeah Alright you done? Yeah Alright thank you everybody And please remember we have another show on Thursday Devorac.org slash N A And we say happy birthday to Sir Jim Mann actually. Happy Birthday today Melody as she celebrates today Jeff Zierman also celebrating his birthday today Matthew Davis is happy birthday it was hot smoking hot lady Samantha

2:48:55 Or smoking hot, Lady Samantha. And Ashley Bianco says happy birthday to her sexy husband Chris Bianco turning 40 tomorrow! Happy Birthday and Christmas wishes from all your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe! Title changes today Sir Chris Eisbach becomes baronet And Sir10CFR50 will be the baronet of the Willamette Valley. I know it's Willamette because that is where i got my fixed wing pilot license. It's also a great wine growing area for Pinot. Great we can do a combo trip, I'll fly you drink!

2:49:35 Sounds like the way to go. Christopher Trembling, Aaron Murphy, Gerald Wingroth please avoid the blade as you step up onto the podium John your blade please. Let me get it. Gentlemen thank you very much for supporting The NOA Agenda Show! The best podcast in the universe in an amount of $1,000 or more I hereby pronounce the night to the NOAG round table And of course the mutton and mead that we always love handing out at the round table.

CHAPTER 37 / 41 Discussion

EMP Commission Reinstated, National Security Threats, Cyber Command

The Congressional EMP Commission has been reinstated following the signing of the National Defense Authorization Act. Dr. Vincent Pry warns that a single high-altitude nuclear detonation could collapse the U.S. power grid for a year, potentially killing 90% of the population. The hosts suggest that the commission and the U.S. Cyber Command are fronts for the NSA to secure more government funding through fear-mongering.

emp commission· vincent pry· national defense authorization act· cyber command· nsa· blackout

2:50:26 Soon to be the roundtable in the train car. Wouldn't it be nice? That'd be great! It would be so much fun you hear about this... Actually screw that I've been wanting to talk about something else we're running long, You better warn the affiliates The affiliates will be extended and going past our normal time Yes There is see a letter went to President Obama from let me see the EMP task force This is a real thing. And of course EMP stands for Electromagnetic Pulse, but in this context they say Dear Mr President we need your personal intervention to provide for the protection of the American people against an existential threat posed by natural and man-made electromagnetic pulse The consequent failure of critical infrastructure that sustain our lives is a major national security threat and would be catastrophic to our people and our nation

2:51:29 So they've reinstated this EMP commission. for the reasons of protecting us. And I have to say, if you're talking about critical infrastructure and we're all freaked out about cyber attacks...I would say arguably it would be smart to just in case have the EMP Commission watching out for everybody and then of course it is kind of a drinking club obviously what are these guys going to do? This is Vincent Prye and Vincent Prye where'd he come from again

2:52:06 Dr. Vincent Prye, I think he's from... What school is he from? I'll look this up while you listen to him talking about the EMP Commission which he's on. A better development at the federal level was the re-establishment of the Congressional EMP Commission that happened just before Thanksgiving when the National Defense Authorization Act passed and Obama signed it into law so the EMP Commission is back It's back. Yeah, it's back and what are they most worried about? Well the super EMP. The congressional commission that you referenced earlier on which I served the congressional EMP commission spent eight years trying to warn Congress and the American people that this was not just a theoretical threat. The idea of using a single nuclear weapon wouldn't even have to be a sophisticated one. You know it detonated at high altitude over the United States

2:52:57 it's a trial to do that there'd be no fallout or blast effects uh... you might not even know the nuclear weapon had gone off but would produce this thing called electromagnetic pulse which is a super energetic radio wave cover-up a whole continental united states and pride electronics across the whole span of the country and we know that uh... that russia and china they've developed a thing called super e m p warheads you know they're specifically designed to generate this up This intensity of key fields and they're not the only ones the Commission concluded that North Korea has probably got the super, you know it probably got it from the Russians. Yeah I think It's fair though. It's fair to be concerned about this You should be concerned but he don't do it by bull crapping the public buddy. No, yeah No, you gotta really scare people about them dying there does seem to be a growing awareness about the bull

2:53:52 vulnerability of our critical infrastructures, the electric power grid communication systems transportation systems to hacking and cyber attacks. And the media at least is aware of this because the head of the U.S. Cyber Command last year announced during a congressional hearing that at least sophisticated state actors like Russia and China, you know could probably shut down the US electric grid for 18 months. You know which would be uh, that would be the equivalent of waging an all-out nuclear war on the United States but a lot of people don't understand that because the Congressional EMP Commission concluded

2:54:31 that if we had a nationwide blackout that lasted just a year, it would kill nine of ten Americans. 90% of the population through starvation disease and societal collapse." Whoo! No... Yeah okay who's the commander you think at the U.S. Cyber Command? Admiral Michael Rogers who heads up the NSA where do you think the US Cyber Command exists? Fort Meade yeah this is just in front for the NSA Is that just another money grab? These guys are out to get all the money they can. This is not the CYB, this is the EMP Commission! No but he mentioned the U.S. Cyber Command is somehow behind this thing or they're part of it...

2:55:14 I mean, as soon as he said that, I started looking. Okay? Okay. Well, he's the executive director of the task force on national and homeland security directed to US nuclear strategy forum both congressional advisory board served on the congressional EMP commission now reinstated the Congressional Strategic Posture Commission, the House Armed Services Committee... This is NSA front there's no doubt in my mind. Excellent! To make money more for the budget These guys are just soaking up the cash. Well, that makes sense if they slipped it into the National Defense Authorization Act and now the money can start coming in we just have to scare people properly through doing interviews like this... And so nobody complains about the money? Yeah exactly. Well talking about the national you know their whole new budget I mean just play this is ridiculous there's the budget all the crap they did they're gonna spend more tax less I mean is driving the country bankrupt but play this clip

CHAPTER 38 / 41 Discussion

Omnibus Spending Bill, CISA Surveillance, Visa Waiver Restrictions

President Obama signed a $1.8 trillion spending bill that includes the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act (CISA), a measure critics say expands mass surveillance. The bill also lifts the 40-year ban on exporting U.S. crude oil and introduces new restrictions on the visa waiver program. These restrictions target individuals who have visited Iran, Iraq, Syria, or Sudan since 2011.

omnibus bill· cisa· surveillance· visa waiver· iran· crude oil

2:56:08 President Obama signed a $1.8 trillion spending and tax cut package after Congress passed the deal in a rare moment of bipartisan unity. The measure expands military spending and provides a billion-dollar tax loophole sought by the hotel, restaurant and gambling industry. It also lifts—the 40-year ban on exporting U.S.-produced crude oil, a move Oil Change International called a disaster for the climate Democratic leaders said lifting the ban was crucial for winning Republican support. President Obama praised Congress for passing the bill. And today they passed a bipartisan budget deal I'm not wild about everything in it, i'm sure that's true for everybody but it is a budget that as I insisted invests in our military and our middle class without ideological provisions that would have weakened Wall Street reform or rules on big polluters

2:57:01 Privacy advocates have objected to the spending bill's quiet inclusion of the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act, or CISA—a measure they say will expand mass surveillance under the guise of cybersecurity. Among other provisions are new restrictions on the visa waiver program which could force Europeans deemed to be nationals of Iran, Iraq, Syria or Sudan, or people who have visited those countries since 2011 to obtain a visa before entering the United States. Since the move is likely to trigger reciprocal restrictions from European countries, critics warn Iranian-Americans could now be treated as quote second class citizens when traveling abroad." Yeah fabulous. That's good summary. Oh we're screwed. Meanwhile of course where is our great internet that came along to fight CISA?

CHAPTER 39 / 41 Discussion

Techno-Skeptics, Washington Post, Republican Christmas Gifts

A movement of "techno-skeptics" led by Jaron Lanier is gaining attention for protesting planned obsolescence and advocating for a reinvented internet. On the "PBS NewsHour," the "Shields and Brooks" segment is criticized for its lack of genuine conservative representation. The hosts mock a guest from "The Washington Post" who suggested giving Republicans a "lump of coal" for Christmas.

techno-skeptics· jaron lanier· washington post· shields and brooks· pbs newshour

2:57:55 Yeah, I was reading an interesting article that was passed on to me a couple different times about the... what are they called here? They're called the techno-skeptics. Which of course I feel right at home in. It's like... yeah go on. It was The Washington Post and there is apparently a movement and they're calling themselves techno skeptics and their rioting against planned obsolescence They're actually the woman Taylor 36 in this article documentary filmmaker She's not paranoid, but she keeps duct tape over the camera lens on her laptop computer Heyo sounds a lot like somebody I know Yes more money Yeah and last month Taylor and more than 1,000 activists scholars and techies gathered at The New School in New York City for conference to talk about reinventing the internet. Yeah good luck

2:58:56 And Jared Lanier is leading this troop. He's responsible for it! The guy from Subway? Yeah, that guy... No you know the guy I'm talking about with the Rasta hair and the virtual reality guy. Come on Talking about you mentioned the Washington Post, the Washington Post is also getting kind of hinky much like The Economist. So they had...you know, the NewsHour has this segment where they have that, you know, Shields and Brooks. This throwback to some old...they're supposed to be one's supposed to be a Democrat, one's supposed to be Republican. Aaron Mueller Isn't it? Aren't they country and Western duo? Dr. Mauck Yeah, country and Western. Shields and Brooks

2:59:33 And so they talk and the Republican representative is always kind of like such an old-fashioned Republican as ludicrous. But when Shields...but okay, fine I guess he's a Republican. He hates Trump. What kind of Republican is he? Now, sometimes he goes on vacation, they bring in guy from The Washington Post named Gershon another columnist, I believe. And he comes on and he's so far from being any sort of Republican that he's like snide anti-Republican. He is a Democrat. You can't get journalists much...many journalists that could actually call themselves Republicans but let's play the clip by half or two these guys

3:00:16 I think it was about Christmas. Yeah, Republicans on NewsHour Xmas gifts Yes this is the...I edited a little bit so you just get the best parts First let's talk about the president what would you give him? Well I don't think any Democrat deserves anything in their stocking this year because they already got Donald Trump That is Christmas gift birthday gift Valentine's Day I think anything more would be greedy Alright but the Republicans What gift Michael for them I didn't normally want this, but I think a lump of coal. Because Republicans love coal! That would drive Al Gore crazy. How does this guy represent the Republican or conservative side of anything? Well it's the Christmas week John you'll take whatever you can get. You just can't get everybody. It turns out to be just another Democrat shill

CHAPTER 40 / 41 Discussion

Medical Marijuana Ban, Industrial Hemp, Robert Downey Jr Pardon

Section 538 of the new omnibus bill effectively prevents the Department of Justice from using funds to interfere with state medical marijuana laws. The bill also protects industrial hemp research. In California, Governor Jerry Brown granted a pardon to actor Robert Downey Jr. for past drug and weapon convictions, a move the hosts suspect was influenced by Disney.

medical marijuana· omnibus bill· industrial hemp· robert downey jr· jerry brown· disney

3:01:11 I also, there was just one last little piece of news that picked up. In the big bill that we just passed which was the omnibus bill a lot of people are saying because this bill has been signed into law it effectively stops the ban on medical marijuana. What? Yeah! Section 538 of the omnibus bill. None of the funds made available in this act to the Department of Justice may be used with respect to the states of, and then there's pretty much every state... Every state? What are any states left out? I'm looking. And the reason I'm asking that is because- I don't see Texas.

3:01:57 But I'm asking is because I suspect that the states that are listed are the ones that have medical marijuana, planning marijuana legalization or medical or something and Texas being left out. We don't plan that we're not planning nothing. We like to eat legal business much better because otherwise you have to tax it. Here it is, so with respect to the states and then all those states... To prevent such States from implementing their own state laws to authorize the use distribution possession or cultivation of medical marijuana Well, read the states now. I'm very curious. Okay? Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware DC...District of Columbia not a state but Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Missouri Montana Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico Oregon Rhode Island South Carolina Tennessee Utah Vermont and Washington and Wisconsin

3:02:55 And, Section 539, none of the funds made available by this Act may be used in contravention of Section 7606 which is legitimacy of industrial hemp research of the Agricultural Act by the Department Justice or the DEA. So, hemp research and medical marijuana... It seems like a... It's headed that way. There is no doubt about it. And it seems... A few sick, you know? Yeah, like Texas. Like Texas. Idiots! You sick puppies are giving up on this opportunity. We can't even... But half of Texas is still a blue state. If they went out and voted I think the whole state would be blue.

3:03:37 Yeah. Alright, well there you have it I think that's kind of good news! I only have one clip left that i might want to play we can finish what time is it? I'm good to finish with you Well, let's just play this. Oh wait I will just one clip just for you because it's a local California thing. Hollywood and actor Robert Downey jr Getting up pretty nice Christmas gift the Iron Man star who once spent time in prison after police found heroin cocaine And a pistol in his vehicle was granted apart him by California governor Jerry Brown Downy has stayed out of trouble since his release in 2002 His voting rights now restored yeah what a great country Disney

3:04:16 Exactly. What a great country! No, what happened I believe is that Disney signed him to pretty much a lifetime contract to have to do all these crazy... There's another one coming out where he plays Iron Man in another guys movie? Yeah He's gotta do all these things for Disney and I think Disney called Brown as his... They called him the favor Because he said, I'm not doing it Well, what can we do for you Robert? What can we do for you to make you sign this deal. I don't understand. Get me a pardon! I mean if you have the choice between being high and having to be Iron Man for the rest of your life... You guys got enough money

CHAPTER 41 / 41 Discussion

White Christmas Parody, Show Outro, John Galt Mix

The show concludes with a "deconstruction" of the song "White Christmas," revealing that Irving Berlin originally wrote it as a parody set in Beverly Hills. The hosts sign off with their traditional catchphrases and a "John Galt" audio mix that references "Atlas Shrugged." They remind listeners of the upcoming New Year's Eve episode and the "Value for Value" model.

white christmas· bing crosby· irving berlin· john galt· atlas shrugged· outro

3:04:54 It's beyond me why this, you know, this whole thing is very suspicious. So here's the clip by my last clip has gotten really it's not a political clip it's kind of a little informational that people can take away from the show. This is because I never knew this. The PBS News Hour has this musical thing they bring some musical guy on and he tells us a story about how this song came to be or something like that And this is kind of the backstory of the song White Christmas, which I had no idea was actually a parody. It was a joke tune. The way we think he's gonna live a lot longer than 18 years. And lose his hat! Next for this holiday season and new way to look at a classic song Bing Crosby's White Christmas it's the best-selling single of all time with more than 50 million

3:05:37 million copies sold. Jeffrey Brown recently sat down with composer and pianist Rob Capelo, who deconstructs music for the NewsHour from time to time Rob Capelo, welcome back. So nice to be here! All right so White Christmas a touching beautiful nostalgic song but started life very differently as a kind of parody yeah you know we now think of it this perfect sentimental depiction of Christmas's past but in fact it originally started with a verse that no one sings anymore and that Berlin actually eliminated from the song that sets the song in Beverly Hills LA It actually started The sun is shining

3:06:15 Oh, John. You've ruined the movie for me now Completely ruined. I don't think I can ever watch it again feeling good, you know not now you know The more you know the more you get spoiled All right everybody Thank you very much Merry Christmas once again to you John as well. Well merry Christmas to you and Hope he had a good time yeah very good time. Thank you

3:07:10 And I'm looking forward to our New Year's Eve show. That should be fun We're working on New Year's Eve we are how do we do it? Well, I guess our families love us Get a bit yes out of their hair that's what I'm thinking All right, everybody. Have a happy happy holiday We will be back on Thursday So we'll be looking at all kinds of stuff to deconstruct for you on the next no agenda show Here in FEMA region 6 in the crackpot condo downtown Austin Tejas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I see cirrus Cirrus clouds, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda

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3:09:39 And that's the story. Oh, there is no winning! We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere but we laugh alot Now everyone hug and share a secret Adios mofo