Episode 774 · Sunday, 15 November 2015

Morally Deformed

From a remote Texas trailer to the streets of Paris, the program dissects intelligence failures, media narratives, and the geopolitical fallout of a global crisis.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 55m listen | 62 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 774

About this episode

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak broadcast from a mobile Airstream trailer in Marfa, Texas, as news of the November 2015 Paris attacks breaks across the globe. Curry recounts receiving early reports of the massacre via an 80-meter band ham radio while descending from the McDonald Observatory, highlighting a stark contrast between analog information and the digital chaos of the unfolding crisis. The hosts analyze the immediate geopolitical shifts as France and the United States declare war on Daesh.

Media pundits including Claire Lopez, Buck Sexton, and Philip Mudd flooded news networks to frame the Bataclan theater massacre as an existential threat, while the discovery of an intact Greek passport near a suicide bomber raised questions about recurring terrorist tropes. The discussion details the history of the Bataclan's Jewish ownership and its proximity to the former Charlie Hebdo offices. Further analysis explores the 'strategy of tension' reminiscent of Operation Gladio, the failure of passive electronic surveillance, and the suspicious timing of multi-site emergency response drills held in Paris on the morning of the attacks.

Beyond the tragedy, the program deconstructs the Democratic primary debate where Bernie Sanders linked global warming to terrorism and Hillary Clinton faced scrutiny over her 1975 Marine Corps recruitment claim. Donald Trump’s 'morally deformed' critique of Ben Carson’s redemption narrative provides a moment of political theater, while the hosts launch SlaveSpeak.com to track the decline of precise communication. Sir Luke of London and the Baron of Melbourne join the show’s peerage as the broadcast concludes with a deep dive into the dark energy research at the Giant Magellan Telescope.


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CHAPTER 01 / 62 Discussion

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak Broadcast from Marfa, Texas

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 774 of the No Agenda show, broadcasting from an Airstream trailer in Marfa, Texas. Curry describes the physical discomfort of the mobile setup while Dvorak checks in from Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts establish the remote broadcasting environment and the logistical challenges of streaming from the high-elevation "drone star state."

adam curry· john c. dvorak· marfa· texas· airstream· no agenda· episode 774

00:00 You'd be there for days trying to find your passport. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. Sunday, November 15, 2015. Time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 774. This is no agenda. Radio and broadcasting live from the Airstream of Consciousness in the hipster capital of the drone star state, Marfa, Texas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where freckles are everywhere, I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. What? I'm just stretching man, I'm stretching. I've been in the Airstream for a couple of days.

00:41 Well, this is a cramp you up. Do you have this stand in the closet? No, everything. No, everything. No. Well, the only thing that's a little torturous is when prepping the because I have the faux leather seats, you know, the pleather seats. And I just keep slipping down. Yeah, I keep slipping down and, you know, and all of a sudden I'm almost horizontal covers. Yeah, yeah, I guess I could get to the keeper there. Yeah. Well. She's not in she's in in town wait Well, let me guess she stands during the whole show she stands outside kind of her back against the thing and one leg up pushing against the against the trailer smoking and swirling beads with us with her Ray-Bans on You nailed it oh Man yeah, Marfa, Texas kind of strange to have

CHAPTER 02 / 62 Discussion

McDonald Observatory Visit and Ham Radio News of Paris Attacks

Adam Curry recounts receiving news of the November 2015 Paris attacks via an old-school ham radio while descending from the McDonald Observatory in Texas. Due to a lack of cell service and internet at 7,000 feet, the information arrived through the "freewheelers net" on the 80-meter band. The hosts contrast this analog information gathering with the surreal experience of being off the grid during a major international crisis.

mcdonald observatory· paris attacks· ham radio· verizon· hf bands· 80 meters

01:36 I witnessed what happened in Paris while almost off the grid. In fact, when did you hear about it? How did you hear about what happened in Paris? That's a good question. It was pretty close to when it happened because I was just coincidentally scanning my My TV uh-huh and I was on France twice as I would pass fat France 24, which is one of my normal Yeah, you knew something was up. Well. They were all over it because they weren't showing their regular news. Yeah, so how about this for surreal? So we're here in Marfa. We were invited for a private tour of the McDonald Observatory Which is about 40 minutes up the hill Elevation is almost 7,000 feet which I didn't realize I

02:27 Pretty good. Yeah, you want to get as high as you can with those those good telescope and of course there's no cell service there There's barely cell service in Marfa I had checked all the coverage map so I knew that Verizon would work here, and it does thank goodness So that's the my five so that's how the show is being streamed and how we're establishing our connection So we went up this was Friday night And we're supposed to get the tour and we can talk about that later because it did learn some interesting things And it was you know the star party etc. And so okay It was the bad news is it was too cloudy to actually see any stars visually with telescopes So we get in the car and go drive back down. It's about a 40 minute drive down. And before this trip, because I knew I was going to have some high elevation, after weeks of research, I finally decided to get a little Tar Heel 2 ham radio antenna on the car, which will do all the HF bands.

03:24 And thinking it should be nice and quiet, not a lot of electricity up in this neck of the woods. So I turn on the ham radio as we're going down, because you couldn't get anything, you know, couldn't even get the GPS to work because there's no cell service. And the first thing I hear is the freewheelers net on 80 meters. And this is, and so we heard on the ham radio, this guy saying, well, you should probably take a minute here and a moment of silence. And we're like, what's going on for the 150 people killed? Like what? It was really, it was so strange to get that on such an old-school medium. And then not being able to turn on CNN or anything to get any, you know, so we're pretty much reliant upon whatever you can get online, which I think actually benefited me in some ways. Not being... Well, if it could come, since you watch CNN, yes. There is no CNN to watch for me. But yeah, benefit, benefit.

CHAPTER 03 / 62 Discussion

Democratic Debate and Podcast Trigger Warning

The hosts briefly mention the recent Democratic primary debate, noting it ended early due to a lack of substantive material. Adam Curry then issues a satirical "trigger warning" for the audience, mocking modern sensitivities regarding gluten and dietary choices. This serves as a transition into the heavy news coverage of the Paris terrorist events.

democratic debate· trigger warning· gluten-free· cbs· satire· anal leakage

04:17 And then at the same time you know I really wanted to listen to the door watch the debate It was on you didn't know I did I we wound up finding a live stream of it. Yeah, yeah They ended that thing seven minutes warming they ended it seven minutes early. They were out just out of material Very strange two duds in a chick so Yeah, this is... I always appreciate people saying, oh, I can't wait for the show, what's your take on everything? And before we do any of that, John, I think we should start the show off as we have started to do with something very important for today's audiences. Ah, yes! A trigger warning! The following podcast contains content that, when faced with choosing between pita bread or a croissant,

05:14 You'll feel that it is too soon and instead ask for a gluten-free option. And use the excuse, gluten may cause anal leakage. There you go. Listener discretion is advised. That was very, very kind of you. And now everyone's prepared. There is no turning back. Well, I don't know where you want to start, but let me just throw a few easy clips out there. First of all, this is a very strange event and the theme, if there's a theme, and I think it's being overlooked by a lot of these people, they're actually not overlooking it completely, but they're overlooking it as a theme, which is that, oh my God, what is the government doing?

CHAPTER 04 / 62 Discussion

Intelligence Failures and Media Critiques of Paris Attacks

Media analysts including Andrea Mitchell and Geraldo Rivera criticize French and American intelligence agencies for failing to detect the coordinated Paris attacks. The discussion focuses on how a sophisticated operation involving multiple terrorists could occur without a "whisper" being picked up by the CIA or French services. Former police commissioner Bernie Kerik is cited calling the event a colossal failure of intelligence.

andrea mitchell· geraldo rivera· cia· french intelligence· bernie kerik· counterterrorism

05:57 They haven't done anything. They didn't protect us from this. They didn't learn anything. I think there was a good reason for this because they don't...the real business that the spy agencies are in is to find ways to blackmail people so they can get what they want when it comes to budgets. They don't really do anything about this sort of thing. And let's play a couple of the critiques that came out just for starters. Let's begin with the critique from Andrea Mitchell. Okie dokie. your sources all evening long. Andrea, let me start with you. Obviously, very coordinated, very sophisticated attack and it leads to the obvious question, why wasn't something on that level picked up? And that is the question. The French have very good intelligence and share with us all the time. We supposedly have very good intelligence, the best in the world.

06:45 And the fact is that there was no warning of this. They're going back now at the counterterrorism center to see if they missed something. Was this on social media? Was this some sort of electronic surveillance with a threat or coded threat that they did not pick up? But the fact is they didn't see anything coming and that is very concerning to American intelligence and to the French. Yeah. I'd say yeah, why don't you play here's Geraldo? Yeah, you know I I saw did you see the Geraldo and his daughter? Oh, man, like this guy is such a narcissist

07:22 He's terrible of these attackers six locations locations So how first of all I got a text from Bernie Kerik the former police commissioner dear friend of mine who said what a colossal failure of intelligence That's something of this magnitude. This is a major major operation involving perhaps scores of terrorists, how could it be that that scores as in by 12 times 12 What he says, what he means to say, always just dramatizing it, is that there had to be, and there's a French guy I have clipped up to, clips from French 24.

08:01 It's assumed that there's a network, a support network behind these guys and that's where you get the scores. That could be coordinated and no one in the vaunted French intelligence service even picked up a whisper. No one in the CIA is picking up a whisper of this gigantic attack. Hold on a second, since when has France been been classified as having such fantastic intelligence services. Apparently, I've never heard this. I've never heard this. I haven't heard it either. I've heard of, you know, they have foreign legion fighters. Maybe he's confused. No, they have intelligence. I was going to wait for to play this, but so I had a communication with one of our military producers, one who I've met personally is vetted and he's the real deal.

CHAPTER 05 / 62 Discussion

GIGN Officers and Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege

A military producer informs the hosts that four GIGN (Groupe d'Intervention de la Gendarmerie Nationale) officers were involved in the response to the Paris attacks. The discussion shifts to the eerie similarity between the real-world events and the Ubisoft video game "Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege," which features GIGN units rescuing hostages from terrorists in Paris. The hosts remark on the late author's tendency to be ahead of geopolitical events.

gign· tom clancy· rainbow six siege· ubisoft· munich massacre· special forces

08:53 And he said, well, did you know there were four GIGN officers killed? I'm like, GIGN? What is that? It's the Groupe d'Intervention de la Gendarmerie Nationale. Otherwise known as the National Gendarmerie Intervention Group. The GIGN, this was a group created in 1973. Now, even though they are not part of the intelligence per se, This group was created after Munich, after the Munich Olympic Massacre. And they're responsible for anything terrorism, they have to go in and take care of it. And so I sent back a note to our producer, said, well, yeah, but what's your point? He said, well, Tom Clancy. I'm like, Tom Clancy? Oh, yeah. His latest game?

09:48 Which is a part of the 6 series, whatever that is, from Ubisoft, you know, the game company which always finds it dubious. So the most recent release which came out at the beginning of this year is the GIGN. It is these guys who are out there trying to protect... Rainbow Six. Yeah, Rainbow Six. Experts in close quarters battle and hostage rescue. Assembled from special forces teams around the world. The counter-terrorism units. So in this game, with these new guys and of course the team has a couple of special skills, they go around saving people from terrorist attacks in Paris. You gotta hate Tom Clancy for this. He's always ahead of the game. Well, Tom Clancy's dead.

CHAPTER 06 / 62 Discussion

Surveillance Limitations and the Decline of Field Intelligence

The hosts argue that modern intelligence agencies have become overly reliant on passive electronic surveillance and social media monitoring at the expense of human intelligence in the field. They suggest that the failure to stop the Paris attacks stems from agents "sitting on Facebook all day" rather than infiltrating groups. The narrative that encryption is the primary obstacle is dismissed as a convenient excuse for agencies seeking larger budgets.

nsa· encryption· social networks· echelon· fbi· signal intelligence

10:34 Well, but he, that makes it even better. And that game I'm sure has nothing to do with anything he did unless they took it from some short story or something. I'm not sure. Some Tom Clancy fan might know. Well, that's okay. That makes it even better. Well, it would if you're thinking it, it's well, you know, that one of the things they went on and on about on all these coverages is, and think Andrea Mitchell touched on it. How are they communicating where it's not being picked up? Because if you listen to all these critiques, they say, oh, we should be able to get all we do. And by the way, you also get the impression that all anybody does is listen to the phone and watch what you're doing on social networks. So if you're not on the phone and not using social network,

11:21 networks to communicate, which I guess all these intelligence guys nowadays, instead of actually being in the field and infiltrating, they're just sitting around on Facebook all day. I mean, that's exactly what it sounds like. Well, already the reports are coming out saying, oh, you know, obviously we couldn't decode their encrypted messages. So, oh my goodness, what are we going to do? Yeah, well that's obviously not what happened. I mean all they were trying to do is always break in. I mean these guys, I remember years and years ago when I was doing a radio show on technology that during the echelon period where they're trying to suck everything up, put taps on everybody.

12:04 And the FBI in particular is really into this. The idea is you're working for these agencies, you're getting paid good money. What if you can just sit at your desk all day doing whatever you feel like or just sitting on Facebook and communicating and then letting the phone calls collect at the various offices? And you never have to leave the office, you never go into the field, you never do anything really. All the information comes to you. This is where it's gone. I think this is what's going on. Well, why do you need that huge office, that giant office for the NSA? Just so people can just be listening in on the phones? I mean, come on. Well, why don't you go through some more of your clips? I do have a theory, not so much about who or what, but I have somewhere to go with this, but I see you have a couple of clips I think we should play first. Okay, well, let's play... One thing that's interesting to me about this, and let's play this clip, which is another critique, but this one, like, leads into, um...

CHAPTER 07 / 62 Discussion

Soft Targets and the Kalashnikov Media Meme

Analysis of the Paris attack locations reveals a shift from "lone wolf" scenarios to coordinated strikes on "soft targets" like cafes and concert halls. The hosts note a specific linguistic shift in media reporting, where the term "Kalashnikov" has replaced "AK-47," speculating that this may be a subtle attempt to link the weaponry to Russia. They observe that no tourists were specifically targeted, focusing instead on local social hubs.

soft targets· kalashnikov· ak-47· lone wolf· russia· paris venues

12:59 Leads into another topic that I want to discuss which is the venues, but so let's play critique plus venues keep dookie That there was probably a bomb used to down the Russian plane in Egypt Which also means this is coordinated. This is maybe old-style Terrorism if you wish not so much lone wolves that are very difficult to pick up and so this is why you're already seeing some conservatives who are lashing out and say it's time for the government to tell us what they've been doing. You know, some are even calling for the resignation of the interior minister who's in charge of the police because they're saying, well, this is not someone who suddenly woke up one morning and decided to shoot.

13:45 Those were seven people with the same guns, the same detonators, and knew exactly where they were going, soft targets, not synagogues, schools, official buildings, because there's much more police and army patrols around those places since the last attacks, but places where people gather to have a drink, to listen to music or watch football. So a couple of things I want to say about that. He's talking about soft targets. Now what we really should be saying, no tourists were targeted, completely the opposite of what we've seen so-called ISIS do. Very quickly we heard a Kalashnikov meme that went from, briefly it was AK-47s they used and it's all Kalashnikov, which I don't know why. Did you see any picture of any weapons used of any of these terrorists anywhere? No.

14:40 Do we see any gun discarded anything at all and why all of a sudden saying Kalashnikov instead of ak-47? I didn't notice this. Yes. It's pretty rampant Kalashnikov, which maybe it's just an F-Russia thing. I don't know. I got Kalashnikov first. Okay, and then AK-47 later. Well, the Kalashnikov is strange. That's just I don't know why that got some legs all of a sudden. But there's also there's a narrative switch going on that that I was fascinated with which is the switch I think they gave up whoever's writing the script gave up on the Lone Wolf scenarios. Oh, yeah, it wasn't working. What's nobody? Can't do anything about see I don't even I'm not even there my head's in a different place

CHAPTER 08 / 62 Discussion

Passport Anomalies and Targeting the French Future

The discovery of an intact Greek passport near a suicide bomber's body is questioned as a suspicious recurring trope in terrorist events. The hosts analyze the choice of venues, noting that the targeted neighborhoods were "trendy" areas populated by pro-refugee millennials. They suggest that targeting these specific demographics is a calculated move to shift public opinion against open borders and immigration.

greek passport· stadium· hollande· millennials· hipsters· public opinion

15:31 I mean, we could have predicted this would happen. This solves so many things in one fell swoop. You know, close the borders. It's the migrants' fault. We magically found a Greek passport. I love it how that always happens. You know, you can crash into a building with a plane. You know, you can blow yourself up with a suicide vest. But of course you always have your passport with you. And of course it always is found right next to your mangled, blowed-up body intact. The passport thing was kind of screwy, but they've got a problem. There's a fact Let me see if I figure out which clip this is and what and and you know They picked one of these guys up at the Belgian border the Belgian border in a rental car Because that's what you do if you're gonna kill yourself. You know you rent a car and drive it back to drop-off You know you don't want to get a late fee well. I that I

16:25 I think is, I'm not sure what's going on. I don't think that's the key. I have thoughts. But let me finish the thoughts on the venues. Okay. This guy brought it up. The way I looked, I looked at the map of where these things took place and it looked to me as though, assuming that this was what it was, You had two jokers go up to the stadium. I don't think they were even closely aware that Mitterrand, or not Mitterrand, Hollande was there. Because if they were, they could have done a little more than they did, it seems to me. And they blow themselves up and that attracts the police away from the part of town which is way far from that stadium.

17:05 Which was a screwy place in terms of like why would you blow this start shooting people in this venue? Which is which is the? Where young people stay and play play the clip? This is like where the Millennials would go and this clip venue anomaly kind of covers it this a little bit. Oh nature of these venues in the northeast of Paris. They're actually kind of trendy neighborhoods, also neighborhoods with quite a degree of social mixity. This is sort of the France of the future if you like. They weren't targeting well-to-do establishments type neighborhoods. They were targeting actually quite originally working class neighborhoods that are now

17:43 very representative of a modern France, a mixed France if you like. So certainly I think that has shaken a lot of people and upset a lot of people who would normally in fact be quite maybe centre-left on a lot of social issues, who would be open to the whole idea of welcoming refugees. And so I think the way in which this is going to impact on broader perspectives and political opinions is, we'll have to wait and see I guess. Now, I thought this was kind of fascinating because it was like, if you want to turn around public opinion on certain things, in this case, the welcoming... Shoot all those people that think this is a good idea. Yes. Which is what they did, which is exactly what they did. I have Mike Rogers.

CHAPTER 09 / 62 Discussion

Border Closures and Mike Rogers on Refugee Infiltration

Former Congressman Mike Rogers appears on CNN to argue that the Paris attacks justify closing European borders to refugees due to potential ISIS infiltration. However, the hosts cite reports from journalists on the ground indicating that borders between Belgium and France remained largely porous despite official announcements. They discuss the logistical impossibility of truly "closing" modern European borders.

mike rogers· cnn· refugee crisis· border security· nato· belgium

18:30 who was pulled into CNN. I did get some clips from CNN even though I couldn't watch it live. And he has, this guy, no shame at all. This should be a wake-up call to everyone. I think that when France closed its borders, that is an unprecedented event. And it tells you that all of the intelligence that's led up to this point saying be careful about this refugee community, they believe they're trying to infiltrate it. That tells you that there's more information behind that closing. He didn't get up and just decide he was going to close those borders. That is probably a concern not just for France, but everybody that's dealing with a refugee population from the region. Yeah, because European borders have been open to refugees. Hundreds of thousands of them in recent weeks and months have been allowed

19:11 allowed to come into Germany, into Austria, into France and other countries in Europe. And you heard from a lot of law enforcement experts, especially here in the United States, that ISIS could be smuggling terrorists in to presumably commit an act of terror like this. And there was some social media reporting that talked about the very fact that that's exactly how they got in. And now you have to worry about what the status in Germany is and other places in Europe. as well as do they have a secondary level of attack anywhere else in the world, including the United States. All right, be very afraid, everybody. We have a continuity problem, folks. With the script. Yes, it's out of order. Now let's, I want to mention one thing since you're going toward that direction right now in these clips.

19:59 On Twitter, there's a guy who says, hey, after they announced they shut the borders, I just drove in from Belgium to France. And he goes on some detail and I look into this guy. He's a reporter. He's a really, it's not like a bogus, you know, guy just throwing shit out there, which you get a lot on Twitter. And then it wasn't ended, they didn't close the border. I mean, they may have locked down a little bit later, but if you say we've closed the borders and the borders aren't closed, that doesn't make any sense. Well, having lived in the region, in the Netherlands and in Belgium, I can tell you there's not any real guard post or border that shuts. This has long since been eliminated.

20:37 There's not like a big train crossing gate that comes down. No! Going into East Berlin in the 1960s. And they didn't close the airport. I kept very close attention to the airport. Flights kept coming in and going out. So, you know, there's a lot of talk. A lot of talk here. Now, the problem with the script problem that I'm seeing in terms of... I like that you're saying script because I do have thoughts about it. Do you want to venture as to where the script is coming from? I don't know. I have no idea. You might have some ideas, but let's talk a little bit about the script. Okay. One of the elements that they're doing now, I'm not...

CHAPTER 10 / 62 Discussion

Knights Templar and Friday the 13th Numerology

A media analyst, identified as KT McFarland, suggests that ISIS chose Friday the 13th for the Paris attacks to commemorate the 1307 massacre of the Knights Templar. John C. Dvorak points out the historical inaccuracy of this claim, noting that the Knights Templar were persecuted by the Catholic Church, not Muslims. The hosts mock the attempt to inject religious numerology into the tragedy's narrative.

knights templar· friday the 13th· kt mcfarland· isis· catholic church· 1307

21:17 I'm not claiming that this event didn't happen. I don't know what you're gonna do. But this event happened. I don't know, necessarily, who was behind it. I am not on the crisis actor bogus tip. No. This is too much work. In France. Come on. We don't have enough actors in France. Gérard Depardieu lives in Russia. He wasn't available. So there was a massacre, which is the only way to call it. And it was a massacre in a weird part of town that had, although there's some crazy, let me move right to the craziest of the thoughts. Let me guess, is it date related and numerology related?

21:58 Yes Yeah, the 11th Friday the 13th Wow you're better than I am at that no okay But this person is all right. This is the Friday the 13th. This is a KT somebody or other she is a CI XCIA she's obviously to worship something so she throws in this is I think this was the gem of of all these crazy ideas. This is the Friday the 13th nonsense. Increase the tax in Europe and potentially in the United States, it's going to look completely ineffective. You know, what was the Obama foreign policy? Well, they got rid of Al-Qaeda, right? Al-Qaeda was on the ropes. Then we had Benghazi. ISIS is the JV. Oops, ISIS now takes over a whole landmass the size of Great Britain and declares a caliphate. Oh well, we've got it contained. That's what President Obama said even yesterday, 24 hours

22:47 ago and then with as he was saying that Isis was planning these mass casualty attacks and I think it's worth noting Isis doesn't do things by accident why was it Friday the 13th well Friday the 13th in history in 1307 wait the Knights Templar Yeah, yeah, nailed it. It was when the Christian Knights Templar, the Crusader Christians were massacred all throughout Europe. So that date I think was carefully chosen by ISIS and secondly the attacks in Paris were against French, German and Americans. It was an American rock concert. It was a French-German soccer match. ISIS has laid down their marker and they've said we are at war with Western civilization and we are killing Christians. So I think that that's where they go for

23:32 And as they've shown, they continue to up the ante. Regardless of what the president says, ISIS is on the move and they seem to have now entered a whole new era with these mass casualty attacks. What was this woman's name again? KT something, I can't remember. I'd have to go back and dig it up. I've seen her a couple times. She comes out rarely. They have all these different women that are all... And what channel was that on? This was, I believe, either on Fox or CNN. Okay, alright. Well, you're picking up on... I wasn't doing my job. But let me mention one thing. The Knights Templar were sought after and killed by the Catholic Church. I don't know what's got nothing to do with the Muslims.

CHAPTER 11 / 62 Discussion

Symbols of the Bataclan and American Band Presence

Reporter Laura Haim suggests that the presence of an American band, Eagles of Death Metal, at the Bataclan theater was a deliberate symbol targeted by terrorists. The hosts examine the proximity of the theater to the former Charlie Hebdo offices, questioning whether these "symbols" are genuine tactical choices or post-event media constructs designed to heighten the sense of a "clash of civilizations."

bataclan· eagles of death metal· charlie hebdo· symbols· laura haim· france 24

24:14 Yeah, this is, you know, I even saw a post that the Economist, they had a cover a couple weeks back and, you know, and the headline is, did the Economist cover predict the attack because somewhere there's the number 1113, you know, hidden in the picture. Oh my god, I missed that one. I mean, these, you know, five, six years ago, yeah, Adam would be all over that. No. There's something else going on here, but just to hook into what that woman said Laura Hame who is the France 24? reporter Who I think is a pretty good reporter She kept coming on MSNBC and she had this little ditty which and for her to pick this up It's kind of along the same lines as that woman something I just want to also tell you You know it seems to have been a really

25:04 really sophisticated attack, well prepared. And there's something which is striking me. It first—and unfortunately, I have to say that as a fact—it was an American band which was playing inside the Bataclan, this musical. Sometimes and most of the times, it's French people. But tonight, it was an American band which was playing. Maybe it's a symbol also of something. And then the second element is that this musical is really close to Charlie Hebdo. It's 300 meters away from Charlie Hebdo, and that also might be a symbol, because when you know how

25:40 how the terrorists are planning their attacks, each detail is counting. So I think we have to keep in mind that it was a very sophisticated attack, well prepared, with a lot of symbols that we're learning minute after minute this evening. Yeah, symbols like it was an American band, clearly. You know, well, first of all, before I say anything about what she did about this, about this overblown, sophisticated attack, again, I'm reminding people that the sophisticated attack, even though it may have been just to divert the police, the sophisticated attack at the soccer stadium would have really caused some... If you'd have gone into the soccer stadium, shot your way in, and started shooting international soccer stars on the field...

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Jewish Ownership History of the Bataclan Theater

Reports from the Times of Israel indicate that the Bataclan theater had been Jewish-owned for decades and was a frequent target of anti-Zionist groups. Although the venue was reportedly sold two months prior to the attack, the hosts discuss whether the terrorists were aware of the ownership change or if the theater's history of hosting pro-Israel events made it a long-standing target.

bataclan· times of israel· anti-zionist· tel aviv· eagles of death metal· ownership

26:28 and then seeing Oland and then racing toward him and just blowing yourself up, that would have been at least showed some signs of sophistication. This was just a drive-by shooting from what I could tell, except for the guys who got inside the band venue. Now play Friday the 13th pre-clip on Why the Theater. Meanwhile, the Times of Israel is reporting that the Badakon theater may not have been picked at random. It was Jewish-owned for decades and had been targeted by anti-Zionist groups for years because of the pro-Israel shows that were put on here. And the band that was on stage at the time of the attack, the Eagles of Death Metal,

27:04 performed in Tel Aviv in July, which could explain why the terrorists picked this particular location last night. Yeah, except that the venue was sold to someone else two months ago, according to reports. I see it everywhere, but no one can tell me who it was sold to, which would be of interest. It would be, but then again, maybe these guys didn't know that either. I mean, that's why I'm not thinking this is much of a sophisticated attack. It was effective. Now I got to jump in. So who did this is we're never gonna find out We just won't. I remind people of the letter that was in the newsletter, I think a couple of...one or two newsletters ago from the guy who's ex-GCHQ, who says as far as he can tell, they don't mind...the government blow up their own people just to make a point, not a problem. Okay. So we have to look at this in a larger context. There's been a number of...

CHAPTER 13 / 62 Discussion

Operation Gladio and the Strategy of Tension

Adam Curry introduces the history of Operation Gladio, a NATO "stay-behind" force used during the Cold War to create a "strategy of tension" in Europe through false-flag attacks. He notes the sudden influx of former CIA operatives appearing as pundits on CNN immediately following the Paris attacks. The hosts discuss whether modern events are being managed by similar intelligence frameworks to influence domestic policy.

operation gladio· nato· cia· strategy of tension· stay-behind· italy

28:03 terrorist attacks and activity in France over the past several years. Of course, obviously Charlie Hebdo, which you'd think after that, you know, everyone be so ready to go and how could anything happen? This is what a lot of the complaint is, of course. Now, these types of events happened several decades ago and they happened in Italy and this was a NATO force. So this is, you know, and what I'm saying is fact, you can look it all up, called Gladio. Operation Gladio and it was leave behind force and the entire point was for this was a NATO based force who had caches of weapons everywhere. In fact, the cache of their weapons was these were Kalashnikovs were found in the Netherlands back in the 90s and Ruud Lubbers then prime minister had to admit that there is a

28:56 force that is spread out throughout the world, but particularly Europe, a NATO-based force who were supposed to be there in case of some calamity inside Europe, inside one of these countries. But it was primarily used to create the strategy of tension and they use that in Italy. Now, the Gladio operation on the US side has always been run by CIA. The only reason I'm bringing this up as a possible, as the actors who did this, is what I saw, and again I wasn't watching live television, but I saw at least five, and I have clips here, five different ex-CIA people come on to CNN immediately, who rarely are on.

29:38 And we know that once you're in CIA, you know, and then you become a pundit after you retire, and I'll show you some of the groups that some of these people work for, you know, you're not really out of the CIA. And for CNN to be talking to these people, they're offered up. It's how it works. Operation Pundit offers them up. Hey, you should talk to these guys. They know all about it. Right. That's why KT, this woman that I had the clip from, I've only seen her on Way rare. I mean maybe three four years ago, so let's take Claire Lopez a regular one of regulars, right? So we have Claire Claire Lopez who was on a lot on CNN and I will just tell you up front She's X CIA and she currently works for Frank Gaffney and Frank Gaffney is you know this is the guy who has been yelling for years He has a pretty big network, and I think he makes some reasonable money

CHAPTER 14 / 62 Discussion

CIA Pundits Claire Lopez and Buck Sexton on Islamic Jihad

Former CIA officers Claire Lopez and Buck Sexton appear on news networks to frame the Paris attacks as an existential assault on Western civilization by "Islamic Jihad." Lopez, associated with Frank Gaffney's think tank, calls for policies to combat the underlying ideology of Islamic law. The hosts characterize these appearances as "Operation Pundit," where intelligence-linked figures are offered to networks to drive a specific narrative.

claire lopez· buck sexton· frank gaffney· islamic law· cnn· the blaze

30:34 that the caliphate, the jihadis are coming in, they're all gonna kill us, we're all gonna die, and very, very propagandistic. It's a Jewish and or Israeli funded think tank, and she comes on to propagate her formula. These attacks were highly coordinated, complex, multiple, simultaneous attacks They speak to a high level of coordination. And and and sophistication remember she's saying this is XCIA by the way the meme word sophistication. Yes. Yes Yeah, this is your script John totally agree in the planning There are elements within each of our societies. I mean we know to in America what it's like to be attacked in the homeland And and some of these these forces we are talking here about the forces of Islamic jihad. There's there's no question about that They live among us

31:32 Just so you know, there's no question about it, John. Just so you know, no question. They live among us. I don't think so. I think we're going to have to step up our game, all of us, in Western civilization. And that is, first of all, to understand what we're up against and to declare it and acknowledge it and confront it openly. We are fighting the forces of Islamic jihad in order to live free of Islamic law. Yeah, that's not a propagandistic line. And we have to say that, and we have to

32:21 And we have to say it. That's just all memes. There's no discussion. These other people that are professionals, they discuss. Yeah, no content. It's just memes. They're just throwing memes out there the whole time. But there's more. Let's listen to the rest of it. Islamic law. And we have to say that and we have to devise policy and then implement it in order to go after not just the terrorists themselves,

32:57 But the ideology that inspires them to do these kinds of acts. Okay, so she's probably the most obvious shill working with Frank Gaffney. Then we have a guy who I don't think I've ever seen Buck Sexton. Oh, yeah. Oh, you're no Buck Sexton Of course, he's on the buzz on the blaze all the time. Okay, but he pops up and he's also ex-CIA It tells you that they were trying to target every aspect of French society. I mean, this is really I don't think he's on CNN ever I've never seen him on C is on the blaze. Okay, but now he's on CNN. This is my point. Oh I would expect to see him on Fox. When he's on the blaze, they brag about it being CIA.

CHAPTER 15 / 62 Discussion

U2 and Motorhead Cancel Paris Concerts

In the wake of the Bataclan massacre, major musical acts including U2 and Motorhead cancel their scheduled performances in Paris. Adam Curry criticizes Bono and U2 for what he perceives as cowardice, arguing that continuing the shows would have been a stronger statement against terrorism. The hosts discuss the cultural impact of these cancellations on the city's morale.

u2· bono· motorhead· concert cancellations· paris· terrorism

33:40 Yeah, well they all, everyone here has been introduced as former CIA. It tells you that they were trying to target every aspect of French society. I mean this is really an assault on Western civilization itself. They're trying to get people as responsible. So it doesn't tell you who's responsible? No, it doesn't tell you who's responsible. You can't tell based on the very basic tactics of them going in. The choice of the targets though shows you that they're trying to send a very clear message. Whether it's ISIS or Al Qaeda, I don't think that there's honestly at this point all that much that we have to worry about in terms of the distinction. You have to take the same security precautions. either way the sort of things that we're worried about follow on attacks whether it is ISIS or Al Qaeda that's something that we'll figure out. Did he get a script? Yes! He was not doing it right. It's completely ad-lib.

34:19 Oh yeah, but he's also terrible. They gotta get him off. That's something that we'll figure out in the days ahead, but as for what's going on right now, they're trying to send a message. The message is that anybody... The essence of terror, right? This is the essence of terror, that if you were at... The essence of terror. Yeah, you know what the essence of terror is? The essence of terror is you two cancelling their Paris shows. That's the essence of terror you pussies. Like Motorhead, cancelling their shows. Well I guess who cancelled it had to cancel right away after the event. Do you know about... YouTube. That's what I just said. I just said YouTube. I'm sorry I missed that. I thought you said somebody else. Yeah YouTube, they cancelled their pair of shows. Big pussies. I thought you said YouTube and I was wondering what you were talking about. No, YouTube and Motorhead.

35:01 Stadium if you're at a concert anywhere in Paris in France in all of the West in any enemy territory any part of the land of war according to the Islamic State you are a target and you are subject to this kind of vicious and sadistic annihilation that's what they're able to do tonight. You're subject to annihilation for going to a rock concert. And again, I already did the venue thing. The venue thing was hipsters. Yeah. That doesn't make any sense at all. But just listen to Bach. This was a hipster neighborhood. Yes. French hipsters. Yes. He specifically said that they targeted some sort of general population to scare the crap out of everybody. He missed the whole point. And he's getting half of it. And sadistic annihilation. And that's what they're able to do. And I have to say, Don, as long as you have the Islamic State

CHAPTER 16 / 62 Discussion

Philip Mudd's Concentric Circles of Investigation

Former CIA official Philip Mudd outlines a "concentric circle" strategy for investigating the Paris attacks on CNN. The plan involves analyzing seized cell phones for recent communications, searching for support networks and weapons caches, and identifying individuals who may have had prior knowledge of the plot. The hosts note the uniformity of the "expert" advice being broadcast across major networks.

philip mudd· cnn· spider network· cell phones· conspirators· surveillance

35:47 operating as it does as a terrorist state, which is what it is. You have this risk and this was really inevitable. I know people don't think of it that way now, but it was only a matter of time before we went from a lone wolf who's a crazy person with a hatchet or with perhaps a gun, and instead we have this, a sophisticated multi-pronged attack with surveillance on the side. With people who knew what they were doing to create maximum carnage. Sophisticated. And the next, this is all in the case of Oh man, it was just maybe an hour. Now Philip Mudd on CNN, ex-CIA. You got to think about a couple things in this case. Think of a concentric circle with three rings. Ring one is, and I haven't heard the answer to this. It is great. Have they picked up a cell phone, for example, from any of these individuals? Because I want to know if there's communications, let's say over the past 24 to 48 hours, that suggest there's other conspirators out there. Ring number two, documents, explosives, weapons,

36:39 travel, communication, is there a support network? And I believe there's got to be of people out there who are trying to escape now. One reason the president of France has closed the borders, trying to escape now, who might go and organize another attack. Ring three and final, and that is, are there people out there who are aware of this and didn't say anything in advance of it? So right now there's a ton of people like me in my own life trying to pick up information about the identities of these individuals. to map out that spider network of who supported this and whether there are co-conspirators on the loose, Don. So when you have at least three CIA, former CIA pundits coming on... By the way, I just want to hear everybody.

37:20 at the very beginning of this whole thing on CNN, Bob Bair. Oh, of course. Of course. Bob Bair. Yeah, Bob Bair. I didn't see any of him because again, I wasn't... It was the same. It was the same. You could have played any of these things and put it, attached the name to any of them. They're still the same. Yeah, but the idea remains the same. And so let's just look at the... And simply what this does, I mean, this is beautiful, first of all. Oh, actually, why even say first of all? Why don't we just listen to the president tell us himself? Why don't we listen to the president himself tell us what this is all about and what's going to happen? Because this seamlessness which we go from this tragedy to Assad has to go is mind-boggling. Good evening, everybody.

CHAPTER 17 / 62 Discussion

Obama and Hollande Declare War on Daesh

President Obama and President Hollande characterize the Paris attacks as an "act of war" by the "terrorist army" Daesh. The hosts discuss the potential invocation of NATO's Article 5 and the irony of Obama praising France as America's "oldest ally" given the "freedom fries" era of diplomatic tension. They predict the event will be used to justify a massive military escalation in the Levant.

barack obama· francois hollande· daesh· article 5· nato· freedom fries

36:39 travel, communication, is there a support network? And I believe there's got to be of people out there who are trying to escape now. One reason the president of France has closed the borders, trying to escape now, who might go and organize another attack. Ring three and final, and that is, are there people out there who are aware of this and didn't say anything in advance of it? So right now there's a ton of people like me in my own life trying to pick up information about the identities of these individuals. to map out that spider network of who supported this and whether there are co-conspirators on the loose, Don. So when you have at least three CIA, former CIA pundits coming on... By the way, I just want to hear everybody.

37:20 at the very beginning of this whole thing on CNN, Bob Bair. Oh, of course. Of course. Bob Bair. Yeah, Bob Bair. I didn't see any of him because again, I wasn't... It was the same. It was the same. You could have played any of these things and put it, attached the name to any of them. They're still the same. Yeah, but the idea remains the same. And so let's just look at the... And simply what this does, I mean, this is beautiful, first of all. Oh, actually, why even say first of all? Why don't we just listen to the president tell us himself? Why don't we listen to the president himself tell us what this is all about and what's going to happen? Because this seamlessness which we go from this tragedy to Assad has to go is mind-boggling. Good evening, everybody.

38:04 I just want to make a few brief comments. And we need to dissect what he's saying here. This man is nuts. About the attacks across Paris tonight. Once again, we've seen an outrageous attempt to terrorize innocent civilians. This is an attack not just on Paris. It's an attack not just on the people of France, but this is an attack on all of humanity and the universal values that we share. Okay, so we stop there. Already Rand Paul has put a bill in to declare war on the Islamic State. He feels that it should be a congressional

38:44 declaration which is how it's supposed to work and of course when you have something called Islamic State it's a state and therefore it's kind of a country and entry entity they attacked a NATO member the president didn't quite say it that way but all that was an early speech Other very shortly thereafter, they started bringing in the NATO meme, which is Article 5 and attack on on one is attack on all of us. So this is now going to be used to completely blow up, rubble eyes, the entire Levant part, except for Israel. That would be in the Levant. So let's say the ISIS, ISIL, Daesh, IS all over the map. Everybody's using different names once again. Maybe the reason they may be using Daesh is to keep Israel out of it. Absolutely.

39:31 And so this... And in fact, just play a short clip right in the middle of Obama. Play Hollande and see what he says. Hollande... Yeah, Hollande, yeah. He was pissed. It is an act of war which was committed by a terrorist army, Daesh, an army of jihadists. Exactly. Daesh. Daesh. So let's continue with the presence. It was already put out there that this will be used in the UN Security Council as an act of war. I'm sorry, a NATO as Article 5 to be implemented that we can go after this Islamic, this virtual Islamic state. We stand prepared and ready to provide whatever assistance that the government and the people of France need to respond.

40:20 Of course we're doing that we are all changing our Facebook and Twitter icons. I'm very proud of America to the tree color good job Wow very very good glad y'all change. You know what Isis is shaking in their boots Francis oldest ally you know I When he brought that out I remember that medley we had of it. He says to everybody, he says, our closest ally, our oldest ally, our most loved ally. But then... The French people have stood shoulder to shoulder with the United States time and again. Uh, no, um... Freedom fries anybody? Yeah, I was thinking as soon as he said that, that's the first thing that came to mind. Freedom fries! Come on!

41:05 But okay! Those French, they're terrible people. Freedom fries. They were calling it freedom fries. Now before we continue, I do want to say that what happened, this is, forget the amount of people, whether it's relatively a lot or not, I mean there's been 150 people killed in, you know, in April in Somewhere in Africa that we don't care about. No one changed their Twitter icon for that. So, you know... Or even for that matter, the two over 200 people killed in the Russian plane. Yeah, this, you know, of course, why would we change it to a Russian flag? That would be crazy. Although the red, white and blue is Russian too. I mean, you just flip it. Yeah, you gotta flip it. But the effect of this, and this is really what I was able to garner. This is a 9-11 type of shock.

CHAPTER 18 / 62 Discussion

Social Media Solidarity and the French Motto

The hosts analyze the rapid global adoption of the French tricolor flag on social media profiles as a form of "moral self-licensing" and "mind control." They critique President Obama's speech for nearly confusing the French motto "Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité" with the American "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness," suggesting the rhetoric was poorly prepared.

facebook· tricolor· liberté· égalité· fraternité· moral self-licensing· mind control

41:53 Okay, um, I said okay. Even I'm, the first thing I thought was, oh man, the shit's kicking off. My kids in Amsterdam, you know, this can happen anywhere now. And this strategy of tension will continue. Right now it's, we don't really need to bring the Netherlands in because what are they going to do? They have a very small force. It's not important to get them in. But France, who, you know, they fly their Mirages and their Boman and they're a big part of it and they're a big oil partner. But the shock of this will really, it's being felt and that's why, John you don't have the Facebooks.

42:32 But man, the moral self-licensing and all the, oh we stand with you, people are, the mind control, it was like a lever, a switch was flipped. Boom, everybody's all in. I don't care what it takes, we gotta kill these people. I see people posting, I'm putting my uniform on, I'm ready, I'm going back, I'm going back in, kill them. And those are Dutch people. We want to be very clear that we stand together with them in the fight against terrorism and extremism. Paris itself represents the timeless values of human progress. Those who think that they can terrorize the people of France or the values that they stand for are wrong. The American people draw strength from the French people's commitment to life, liberty

43:28 I liked, you knew, because he, I don't know if he was ad-libbing here, but... Oh, no, he dropped the ball on that. I'm absolutely sure of it. He wanted, he said, life, liberty, and then, because he wasn't looking, did fraternity. Right, and then he said the pursuit of happiness. Which is our thing. Yeah. Pursuit of happiness. Dude, that's our slogan. Don't be giving that to the French! And then he comes out and he's looking down at his papers like, oh yeah, I mean... We're reminded in this time of tragedy that the bonds of liberté, égalité, fraternité are not only values that the French people

44:06 care so deeply about it, but they are valued. Yeah, it's impossible. And those values are going to endure far beyond any act of terrorism or the hateful vision of those who perpetrated the crimes this evening. Okay. Now, there was, this was, in general, it was quite an embarrassment for the president since he had just been on that, that morning Yeah, bad timing. On Good Morning America with George Stephanopoulos. I don't think they're gaining strength. What is true is that from the start our goal has been first to contain And we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq and in Syria. They'll come in, they'll leave, but you don't see the systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet done... And notice ISIL now, not Daesh, not ISIS, not IS, it's ISIL. ...is to completely

CHAPTER 19 / 62 Discussion

Obama's "Contained" Gaffe and the Shift to "Daesh"

Just hours before the Paris attacks, President Obama told George Stephanopoulos that ISIS had been "contained," a statement that became an immediate political embarrassment. The hosts track the linguistic shift in the administration's rhetoric from "ISIL" to "Daesh" during the G20 summit in Turkey, noting that these terminological changes often carry specific legal and military implications.

barack obama· isil· daesh· george stephanopoulos· g20· turkey

45:05 decapitate their command and control structure. To use a term. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters and part of our goal has to be to recruit more effective Sunni partners. So he said, hey you know they're contained everything's all good so of course very embarrassing when this happens which means he certainly wasn't in on the loop. Prime Minister Cameron was not in on the loop he was really taken off guard although he came out and said, we're at severe code alert, something's gonna happen, guaranteed. I thought I had a clip, maybe it's misfiled, I'll find it for you. So the president had come back now and restated a little bit. Killing of innocent people based on a twisted ideology.

45:49 is an attack not just on France, not just on Turkey, but it's an attack on... Turkey? Yeah, well he's sitting there... Why did he throw Turkey in there just right out of the gate? Because he's in Turkey. Everyone's in Turkey for the G20. Oh, he's in Turkey. He was sitting there with Erdogan talking about this and... The civilized world. And as we I'm sure each said to President Hollande and the French people, we stand in solidarity with them in hunting down the perpetrators of this crime and bringing them to justice. Turkey has been a strong partner with the United States and other members of the coalition in going after

46:31 The activities of ISIL or Daesh both in Syria and Iraq. So the discussion we had today I think was very helpful and helped. Notice the name change? Make no mistake, these people are smart. Everything, every term they use has a legal meaning. So the difference between saying Daesh or ISIS or ISIL has meaning. The press has let us down so severely on this. So severely. They're afraid. And so how do we know it's ISIS? Well, I tracked it back. The first person to say this was Congressman Schiff from California, who happens to be the ranking Democrat on the Intelligence Committee.

CHAPTER 20 / 62 Discussion

Vienna Talks and the Syrian Transition Strategy

The Paris attacks coincide with diplomatic talks in Vienna regarding a "peaceful transition" in Syria, which the hosts interpret as a push to remove Bashar al-Assad. They argue that the tragedy provides the necessary leverage to implement a no-fly zone and "fortify" the border between Syria and Turkey. The narrative links the Paris events to previous bombings in Ankara to create a unified front against Daesh.

vienna talks· bashar al-assad· john kerry· syria· no-fly zone· ankara

47:16 And he said these attacks should dispel any illusions about the nature of the Islamic State. It will add another sense of urgency to defeating it, he said, and that will be very hard to do without eliminating its sanctuary. the work that we're doing together to help to fortify the borders between Syria and Turkey that allow Daesh to operate. Oh, no fly zone anybody? No, it's Daesh. Hold on a second. He just said ISIL? And now he's saying Daesh. When he first said, here's a transition, if you backed it up, he said ISIL or Daesh. Let's listen to that. Going after the activities of ISIL or Daesh, both in Syria and Iraq. So the discussion we had today I think was very helpful in helping to continue to coordinate

48:10 the work that we're doing together to help to fortify the borders between Syria and Turkey that allow Daesh to operate. We discussed the progress that's been made in diplomatic talks in Vienna led by our foreign ministers. And the Vienna talks is about the Assad transition. And an insistence that we will redouble our efforts working with other members of the coalition to bring about a peaceful transition in Syria and to eliminate Daesh as a force that can create so much pain and suffering for people

48:55 in Paris, in Ankara, and other parts of the globe. Okay, so let's review the benefits of this taking place. By the way, I like the way they, they very slow, besides transitioning from ISIL to Daesh, I like the way they transitioned the, that would happen in Ankara. Yes, yes. Which initially was considered by the people that were involved with the protests a government action. Yes. Everybody I heard action. Yes, nothing to do with dash now, but this is do you remember? We said, with these migrants, you can blame anything in the world on the migrants and thus ISIS. It's all gonna happen and here it is. So, what happens? Bikeri was out there, and I recorded the whole thing, it's in the show notes so you can listen to it. Bikeri is so tedious and so boring and he did 10 minutes in French with a boner. You know he's sitting there like, oh I'm so, so cool, I can speak French to the French people.

CHAPTER 21 / 62 Discussion

Geopolitical Impact on Putin and the Migration Crisis

The hosts suggest that the Paris attacks have effectively neutralized Vladimir Putin's opposition to Western intervention in Syria, as he cannot appear to defend a group linked to the massacre. They argue the event serves multiple Western goals: justifying the removal of Assad, providing a reason to close European borders to migrants, and maintaining a "strategy of tension" to keep domestic populations in a state of fear.

vladimir putin· sergey lavrov· migration crisis· syria· nato· strategy of tension

49:53 And then he transitioned immediately into Daesh. Oh, it's all these guys and they're coming in with the immigrants. We have no way to track them. So if we now collectively under NATO decide we have to attack their sanctuary, which it really is all we want to do is get rid of Assad. This is going to make it work and Putin cannot come out now. Putin cannot say, hey you can't do that. He will be viewed as the biggest a-hole in the universe. Yes, he knows this. He knows. Of course he does. And Lavrov started this happening. He said like, good condolences. And then he just backed up and sat down and probably had vodka. He's thinking, damn it. Oh yeah. Oh no. They nailed him. And if you look at Lavrov, the foreign minister sitting next to Kerry, I mean, the guy has like a storm cloud over his head. His eyebrows are down to his nose. I mean, the guy is so angry about what's happened. So

50:46 That will help the transition. That is what I and of course Kerry even at one point says I've been given license to do this by the president. So we're going to rub lies that'll happen. I think pretty quickly. It's going to be just we're going to flatten this stuff. Flatten, flatten, flattens going to be dead. Now the borders get closed. We get to send these crazy, they might all be ISIS, we get to send them all back. And we get to continue with this fear mongering where you never know. Go into a rock concert kids, be very afraid, it could happen here in the homeland. This is the strategy of tension that is being rolled out. It solves everything that they were dealing with, primarily the migration crisis. These borders, Europe is going to be shut.

CHAPTER 22 / 62 Discussion

Pope Francis and the "Third World War"

Pope Francis describes the Paris attacks as a "piece" of a "Third World War" fought "piece by piece" (a pezzi). The hosts compare the Pope's assessment to their own long-standing thesis on global conflict. They also briefly mention Bernie Sanders' attempt to link terrorism to global warming, contrasting it with the Vatican's more direct military framing.

pope francis· third world war· a pezzi· vatican· global warming· bernie sanders

51:30 It's gonna be shut and now, now we're gonna see stuff kick off. That's been a goal. Now you wanna hear the Pope? I have a couple... I have the Pope. Shutting the borders has been a goal. I have the Pope. Oh, you have the Pope? The Pope, and I'm gonna translate. Does he do what Bernie Sanders does? He blames it on global warming? No, we'll get to that. No, here it is. This is an interviewer. Le ha parlato tante volte di una terza guerra mondiale a pezzi. That's my Italian and it translates to you've often talked about a third world war, piece by piece. A pezzi. And he says, si si, questo è un pezzo. Yes, this is a piece. So the Pope

52:22 Is admitting this is a piece of the new world war the third world war which would be thought fought piece by piece Yeah, nice to see the Pope on board with the no agenda thinking. Yes. This is what this is our thesis I found religion beautiful. Yeah, beautiful so you know and I think the gladiol although I'm totally against the gladio thing I First of all first I've heard of it was with this with your buddy James Corbett is always staring into the camera And he had some lunatic woman on that's with the boiling frogs the blame frogs chick, but I didn't get this from coherent yeah

53:00 Yeah, but I didn't get this from them. This, if you look at, Gladio is real. But they got me to looking into this and I don't think this has been in place since the 90s. I just don't see it. If you take it out of the equation, it doesn't change anything of your thesis. It doesn't. Well, I think my point is it doesn't matter. I was very clear. It doesn't matter who did it. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. What matters is what's going to be done with it. This is the official, this will mark the real start, just like 9-11, this will mark the real start of World War III. Well, they didn't, apparently Charlie Hebdo did not trigger it, so they had to do it again. And this is not typical of Arab strategies, they usually take a lot longer in between. It's like hit and run, then you wait forever, and then you're, oh, nothing's gonna happen, then they hit you again.

CHAPTER 23 / 62 Discussion

Site Intelligence Group and ISIS Responsibility Claims

The hosts question the validity of ISIS claiming responsibility for the attacks, noting that much of this information is funneled through Rita Katz and the Site Intelligence Group. They point out that the official communique lacked the specific names of the attackers, which is a departure from typical ISIS propaganda. The involvement of figures like Richard Clark in related intelligence operations is also highlighted as a red flag.

rita katz· site intelligence group· waseem nasr· richard clark· new york times· communique

53:48 I want to play a couple clips here because I don't know what these are about. But I think they're about something about what you're talking about. Okay, like bombers, ISIS or not. We'll know more perhaps in the minutes to come. What we do know for now though is that the Islamic State group has claimed responsibility for this attack. It has not though, given the identities of those who carried out the attacks. A little earlier we spoke to Waseem Nasr, who follows jihadist activity online for us. Here's what he told us. When we see their communique, they're always very accurate. on the facts, they stick to the facts. That's what they did when they claimed the bombing in Beirut 48 hours ago and what they did now. Hold on, hold on a second.

54:29 All of these admissions that ISIS did it you know where that's coming from right from one source Rita Yeah, that's Rita cats Isis is that's the point that he's got a little note in here where as he okay? Talks about this that kind of makes you go These two claims is they didn't give names no no no Nicknames like warnings. They didn't give the name so they are keeping us in like a and kind of flu, because we don't know who are those attackers, if they are all French, if there are foreigners among them, if there are foreign Europeans among them, but because it's also possible. People heard them speak French, but it's not only in France that people speak French.

55:12 Now, the mission came through that operation and they had the site intelligence group, which is screwy. And did you know Richard Clark was part of that operation? No, I didn't know that. Yeah, isn't that interesting. Well, the New York Times reports this as fact. So the New York Times, they say this is, it was ISIS and it's provided by a transcript from the site intelligence group. According to this guy, if you listen to him long enough, he's very tedious. They usually give details to prove that they're right. You know, so there's not a bull crap thing. I'm telling you, here's, we did it and here's the guys who did it. They didn't do that. No.

CHAPTER 24 / 62 Discussion

Suicide Belts in Europe and the ISIS Strategy Shift

Media reports emphasize that the use of suicide belts in Paris represents a "strategy shift" and a "new mechanism" for terrorism in Europe. The hosts express skepticism about how a group supposedly "driving Toyotas in the desert" and "wearing Nike shoes" could suddenly execute a sophisticated multi-pronged attack in a major Western capital without detection.

suicide belts· explosive belts· new york times· raqqa· toyotas· nike

55:55 So that's like a, that's a, that's a, that's a red flag. Now play this part, which I think is kind of, is this bombers ISIS or not? And this has got a, this is, I put down new mechanism. This guy mentions, hold on a second, new mechanism, which really, which really, when you listen to this clip, if you think about it, It is a little suspect, this particular comment that he makes. As we also know. So all this, I guess that during the investigation we'll get to know more about these attackers, knowing that it's the first time that this group claims an operation in France and in Europe. And it shows that it's a real organized operation because to have eight people operating this way and succeeding

56:40 and alongside of the Kouachi brothers who were operating for Al-Qaeda at the time. They didn't claim what he did in the Jewish supermarket. They praised it, as they always do, as they would have done with any terror attack. But this is the first time they are claiming something here in Europe. We are going one step beyond in this war. between the Islamic State and European countries. And this is really to be taken into consideration, knowing that it's also the first time that we see explosive belts and suicide bombers here in Europe. This is really, really new.

57:32 So he's implying that, you know, this is, it's like a jump. They jump the... Well, here's the New York Times headline. Strategy shift for ISIS. Inflicting terror in distant lands. So everyone is on board saying the same thing, that these guys who are driving Toyotas in the desert, wearing Nike shoes and squeaky clean uniforms and producing high-end videos with no actual footage of death. that they now have jumped over and are doing all this, and it's pretty much over. We're all gonna die. Now, on top of that, they're still working on the script. And now I'm gonna say what I think that this is all about, if I wanted to go kind of off the deep end speculating. I think that what we've had accomplished over the last, I don't know, five, six years, is the FBI has shown that they can find some dummy

CHAPTER 25 / 62 Discussion

Emergency Response Drills and Agent Provocateurs

Adam Curry notes that a multi-site emergency response drill was taking place in Paris on the morning of the attacks, a coincidence he compares to drills held during the 9/11 and 7/7 events. The hosts discuss the possibility of "agent provocateurs" within intelligence agencies facilitating such plots to the point of execution, rather than stopping them, to achieve broader political objectives.

samu· patrick pelloux· emergency drills· 7-7 bombings· 9-11· agent provocateur

58:27 who will let him blow himself up or push a button and blow up a building or do all these things and it's like they're easy to find, they're all over the place. Well, push a button, not actually a button that will do anything. But they haven't blown themselves up yet. But you know, to deal with the real hot shots, if you can infiltrate and become the kind of agent provocateur, the guy inside the, oh, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do that. And you would have the ability to create a network that would be unfindable. Because top intelligence guys, you can find ways around all this surveillance. I mean, because they're the ones doing the surveillance.

59:03 So, because I think these guys were not surveilled because there was somebody who knew what they were doing at the top of the...whatever organization this is. And I think there were sincere suicide nut cases who were...they got them together, they built this beautiful plan, but instead of like the FBI has done and pulled the trigger on it at the end and arrested them all, they let it go on. And of course nobody's ever gonna find who this was what it could it could be anybody it could be anybody again again It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, but it doesn't matter. I will say the job I said one additional thing about the CIA Brennan and his intelligent counterparts from Israel and France and the UK had a meeting in Paris a week ago and

59:53 On the 13th, guess what was underway? Why were there so... why did we get everything there so quickly? Because a drill was being held in Paris. Not in the 11th. I'm going to say... Man, I'm just telling you the people saw military floating around. Yeah, but there's... you know... Yeah, I know. But I do have the reports here that they were... there was a drill being performed at the... on the same day. Yeah, you always find those here it is. I'm gonna read it to you one second. I'll open up the the article here we have The French EMT which what are they called? SAMU the Paris Samu and Patrick Pellew

1:00:42 says that there was a multi-site emergency response drill planned for the morning and they were lucky that that was planned because it made the actual event go much smoother because they had so many resources already available and good to go. But whenever this happens, or let's just say it's annoying that these things always seem to take place with an actual event. Think of 7-7 bombing, think of 9-11, Alright, so let me play one more. Because one of the main things I kind of like about this, not that I like any of it, is the script that they have to deal with. Because there's memes out there they got to promote and then there's other memes. Like right now they... Well, let me stop you there. Let me ask you, outline the script.

CHAPTER 26 / 62 Discussion

Michael Weiss on ISIS Sleeper Cells and Passports

Author Michael Weiss explains on CNN that ISIS foreign fighters do not actually burn their passports but instead deposit them at a central "HQ" in Raqqa for future use by sleeper cells. The hosts mock this "HR department" narrative, questioning the logistics of managing thousands of passports for potential return missions. They argue the media is struggling to reconcile the "lone wolf" narrative with the reality of coordinated attacks.

michael weiss· christiane amanpour· raqqa· sleeper cells· passports· abu muhammad al-adnani

1:01:31 This is outlawed. Well, that's what I'm the script until this event was that there's that we're all under threat from lone wolves. Yeah. And the other one, we're all under threat from terrorists, from the various European countries that go to Syria. and come back and they stay there is still europeans and then they now they've got their european passport and they can go and and come to the united states and create havoc here because they're free to do whatever they want to get european passports then you have nets of the script cuts is now completely lone wolf thing has to go cuz it has a man effective then they had this they're trying to promote the idea well now these these refugees are all pouring in

1:02:14 and there's a lot of our nerd from the country somehow but they don't have passports anymore because he used to burn on and and is this a second message script is all screwed up and so they have to bring these guys on the right books and they come on shows the cn volunteer they volunteer information that they're not even asked Yeah, to try to straighten out the script and play CNN worst analyst ever to hear somebody trying to correct the script. ...into whether there are more attackers on the loose in any event we'll wait... This is Christiane Annapur? Yeah. Who she with, you know? No, thank you for that and in the meantime we're joined in the u.s. By Michael Weiss author of a book on Isis and by General Hertling as military analyst Michael this is what you got to do Michael Weiss

1:03:03 And he's a journalist, right? Well, he's a writer. And then they have like a handler on the show just in case he screws up. The military guy, that's great. Can we just pick up the conversation, Michael Weiss, with you regarding ISIS? mentioned that you spoke to an ISIS defector who said that he had received French jihadis who had come to fight the cause and who had then been sent back here. And we're hearing obviously the worst nightmares of intelligence officials all over Europe is that they, This is the new face of war. These people who now come back with their own passports and don't have to be, you know, natives of Syria, Egypt, Saudi, wherever you want, and lie still, beg and borrow a visa to get here. How has this... I mean, this is obviously...

1:03:51 uh... made it so much easier to commit these crimes right and there's two sort of tracks to this uh... christiane uh... you've all seen the videos of the the foreign fighters coming into raqqa and burning their passports of origin on camera yeah which maybe you wanna just hand out your theory there for a second about that Yeah, he explains it. Oh, he explains it? No, the explanation you had a while back ago is no terrorist in their right mind would ever burn a perfectly good passport which can be used for re-entry. Yes, that's what my theory was because it's what the... it's the right thing to say. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Well, how do you explain this away then? No, but I'm agreeing with your theory. No, I know you agree. I'm saying how does he explain it away? Oh, I don't know. Does he do it?

1:04:42 Yep. I asked the defector, I said, is this the norm? He said, no, that's just theater. When you come and you join ISIS, you deposit your passport to the ISIS HQ in Raqqa. They keep it. So in other words, it's not quite true that you are repudiating entirely your origins or nation of origin because you're keeping that identity form in case they want to send you back as a sleeper. He said that Abu Muhammad al-Adnani who is officially the spokesman of ISIS but in reality runs all of Syria. That is his fief. He's the guy who appoints the emirs and the walis or the governors for all the wilayats in Syria. Adnani has said, look, we have this foreign expeditionary arm as the caliphate in Syrian Iraq

CHAPTER 27 / 62 Discussion

The "Sophisticated" Script and Rand Paul's War Declaration

The hosts observe the repeated use of the word "sophisticated" across all news networks to describe the Paris attacks. They criticize Senator Rand Paul for introducing a bill to declare war on the Islamic State, arguing that such a move plays directly into the hands of those wanting a full-scale military intervention to remove Assad. They suggest the "script" is being unified to support a massive NATO response.

rand paul· declaration of war· syria· bashar al-assad· nato· sophistication

1:05:26 begins to shrink or as the borders become more regulated and as the Mujahideen can't cross, we want people to first stay where they are in the West and become sleeper cells. Pledge allegiance to the Caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, form their own networks and commit attacks where they are. But if that doesn't work, we will send operatives from Syria and from Iraq into the West and they can ring lead and they can coordinate this. So this is a very, very, as I said before, a sophisticated project. Sophisticated! All right, sophisticated is the word. Now look at...now I think they've dug a bigger hole. For one thing, now you can't say that you can't blame anything on the immigrants because you got these guys, plus the sleepers who aren't coming to Syria, which is kind of missing the point because the idea is there is a...somebody put this down as a cultural revolution among certain Muslims who actually want to fight.

1:06:19 And so they want to go there. They don't want to sit around as sleepers and then do some sneak attack. That's just not what this counterculture movement is, according to the sociologists who are looking at this. So that's just nonsense. But they got to deal with that. That's another issue. And then the second one was, everyone comes in to fight, and then they turn their passports over to some central office someplace. They got to go all the way to HR. But you got the HR you got it. They drop these all I was like it's not a Russian hotel You gotta sign your 401k paperwork when you join. Oh, it's like what and who's gonna keep trick? They're saying like 20,000 foreign fighters who's gonna keep track of 20,000 okay your name is what Muhammad Abdul okay? Muhammad Abdul from here no that's not mine. No this one. No this one. No you'd be there for days trying to find your passport This is bullcrap

1:07:09 But they're using constant contact to coordinate, send out their newsletters and stuff. So I think that they know what's going on. So the script is a mess. Well, how about this for a thought? So we know this wasn't the Brits. We know it wasn't the US, at least not the White House US. Pretty sure CIA was involved. Or for whatever reason they seem to be... They came out of the woodwork with experts to talk about this. Okay. However, we're just taking advantage of this to flatten Syria and get Assad out. That's that's how we've taken it and to terrorize the United States citizens and to really get a kumbaya going so the weekend You know as a huge NATO force can go and kick everybody's ass where we want to We're going to have you know, we are going to declare a war on the Islamic State if Rand Paul's in on this he is the dumber than I thought he's dumb. Yeah. Yeah, I think so and Brian Williams

CHAPTER 28 / 62 Discussion

Brian Williams and Media "Color" Reporting

Brian Williams returns to MSNBC to lead breaking news coverage of the Paris attacks. The hosts critique an interview with a woman named Margo who witnessed nothing but was brought on to provide "color" for the broadcast. They mock the "fearless" nature of modern news reporting where journalists ask witnesses if they "dared" to look at bodies or blood.

brian williams· msnbc· breaking news· journalism· eyewitness· paris

1:08:13 Just just because you know this guy's back on MSNBC. He does all the breaking news Maybe this whole thing is just to make put his career back on track. I don't know He certainly could use some help listen to this douche our table outside, and we know what this means. This isn't Brian Williams Let's see this is MSNBC Let me see walked around the corner and looked down the street where the shooting had happened and didn't go too close But we were totally unaware that it was a shooting with multiple multiple fatalities We had heard that it was only one person who had been killed. So we really didn't understand the gravity of the situation when we went back out to eat back outside. So you didn't actually witness the stories of... Why is she on?

1:08:51 What? This woman? I was going to say, why is she on it? She didn't witness anything in their interview. Oh, well wait. Bodies outside of this restaurant and the carnage. She's there to provide color. It's pretty funny. I'm trying again. You didn't actually witness the stories of bodies outside of this restaurant and the carnage apparent. You were too far away to actually visually see that. Were you allowed to go closer, Margo, afterwards? Did you even dare do that? Did you go look at the bodies, the blood? I mean if somebody was shooting a gun at you would you go and run closer if you didn't know that they were Farther away, I mean we had no idea where the gun gunman was whether they were still on the loose We didn't hear any cars screeching and driving away, so we really had no idea if we were safe in fact we didn't know that everybody had been caught until well after 12 everybody be caught

1:09:45 Well, she doesn't know what she's talking about. No, she's just there for color just to provide some she didn't see anything nothing. 1am when we arrived back into our apartment and we walked back from the restaurant to our apartment for 35 minutes without knowing whether it was safe. So You make a really good point. You don't want to go closer. You make a very good point. In the news business you want to seek out a story and I'm thinking... In the news business? We're fearless! We got to go the other way. There were reports of people that were offering free ride. Okay. My wife was talking to her friend who happens to be in Austria stuck there because her mom's injured. And she said, oh I was wanting to go to Paris and then this happened and my wife would be

CHAPTER 29 / 62 Discussion

Travel to Paris and the Benefits of Crisis

Adam Curry suggests that now is the best time to visit Paris due to low prices and heightened security, criticizing airlines for canceling flights. The hosts conclude their analysis by summarizing the "benefits" of the crisis for various actors: the US gets to target Assad, Europe gets to crack down on immigration, and the "strategy of tension" is successfully reinforced among the citizenry.

american airlines· tourism· yellow stars· ibm· strategy of tension· paris

1:10:30 You know, I feel the same way about it. She says, no, now's the time to go. When could it possibly be safer? It's going to be nice and no lines. Walk down, there's no lines, everyone's afraid, they don't want to even go there. American Airlines canceled some flights. I brought this up at the, in fact, at the liquor store when we had to buy something, and this woman said something about Paris. Yeah, a couple cases of vodka after the show. This woman said something and I said, not about Paris, oh God. And I said, no, now's the time to go. I would go and I would, I'm not kidding. I would go right now.

1:11:07 The hotel rooms are going to lower the prices. Which is why I feel that you two made a big canard. They should have just said, hey, we know we're not going to let terrorists frighten us. But no, Bono's a big pussy. That's why. Yes, exactly. And you're right. You two should have said, we stand for France. Yeah. No, they don't. He stands for money. And it's in himself. But he could have did that. But that's why he'd say it. I stand for France. We're doing it. We don't care. We're with the French people. We're doing the concert. They would have packed them in and all these guys are the greatest. So to summarize, we have advantage US because we finally get to go after Assad and disadvantage Putin. And that's why they have to act quickly now. They're in Vienna, everybody's in there, everyone's talking except of course Syria is not in Vienna. The UN is calling for a ceasefire and then we'll have our protected zone up in the north with a Turkey and the Kurds so we help them out with the no fly zones, everything can continue as expected.

1:12:03 Europe gets to say, F you immigrants, get the hell out. Probably jail a few people. I know, maybe yellow stars or something. We can put them on their jackets. You know, I know that they're an immigrant. You should be afraid. It seems to have worked interestingly well in the past. Get IBM to register all these people and before you know it, we're good to go. So it's benefit for everybody, it solves a whole bunch of problems. The only problem is, now we, the lowly, uninformed, stupid citizens of the universe who buy into all of what's being said, we're just going to be terrorized. And it's very unhealthy. Very, it's very unhealthy.

CHAPTER 30 / 62 Discussion

Al Gore's Cancelled Climate Broadcast and COP 21

Al Gore's planned "24 Hours of Reality" climate change broadcast in Paris was cancelled following the attacks. However, some analysts suggest the tragedy might actually benefit the upcoming COP 21 climate summit by increasing its media profile and security presence. The hosts remain skeptical of the link between the terrorist events and the global climate movement's economic goals.

al gore· cop 21· climate summit· cap and trade· 24 hours of reality· paris

1:12:59 So I think that's I think that's a good enough analysis for yes everyone who wanted us don't analyze for now I mean what else can we do we have no big head or we can do a little more? It's gonna be tons more. Oh, I'm sorry. There's one more important thing. Ah How could I forgotten the most important thing? So Sam, you're there as part of this climate effort, as you mentioned with former Vice President Gore. What becomes of what you would hope to be this big public campaign leading up to the climate summit? It's a very good question, Brian. Al Gore was going to do 24 hours of climate change live broadcast. And that got cancelled. But I believe this is very good for the profile of COP 21. Now everyone will be talking about, you know, oh, you know, heavy security. Everyone's trying to figure out, you know, save the world so that we all, you know, we won't, we don't want to die from ISIS. We don't want to die from global warming. I see it as a benefit towards the COP 21 global movement for economic change through climate

1:14:03 Credits and cap and trade I think it's a benefit for the for the conference. No. I'm not sure It'd be a lot more coverage on it gonna be a lot more coverage. I Don't know mmm. Well that kind of mean came up early mm-hmm from looking at all the overseas stuff, and it was It died off. It'll come back. There's plenty of time Now let's listen to This is a little piece kind of the intro of a longer video I'm moving over to migrants now for a moment just to get to tell you why we take a break before we go to migrants well in that case I would have to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John Cena

CHAPTER 32 / 62 Discussion

Google Alerts and Content Scraping Disputes

Adam Curry describes receiving a legal threat via a Google Alert from a developer named Steven Greenberg regarding content stored in the No Agenda show notes. This leads to a broader discussion about the futility of pursuing small-scale content scrapers. John C. Dvorak recalls his time at PC Magazine when his columns were frequently stolen by blogs, noting that legal teams often found it "not worth the trouble" to sue.

google alerts· show notes· copyright· pc magazine· lawyers· content scraping

1:17:04 And so I saved a couple of articles about him, one about his foundation and what he's done. I'm just kind of researching the guy. And he sends me an email. Well, I got a Google alert about something's on your server that's my copy. What are you doing with it? And then it's an offline copy. I make copies, you know, our system for show notes. If you ever go into the show notes, you can see a link to the original article and then we have an offline copied stored. And now I have to deal with this jabroni who's probably going to be, you know, like, Oh, I made this. So yeah, it's the internet people. One time I was, this is when PC magazine was big.

1:17:42 And I realized one of the things that's going on that people don't generally realize, and this guy probably doesn't have a clue, if you went to a lawyer, you're bitching about that the guy left him out of the office. So somebody just was stealing my columns, full cloth, posting them on their blog. Yeah. As though they were, yeah, they gave me, it was the writer's credit, sure, but it was just like, that's all the blog was just other... Was it an Irish newspaper? No, is Irish newspapers do that? It happened to me once. Where someone was taking our content. It was a small guy. And I said, stop this guy. You guys are losing advertising revenue, I don't know how much, for this guy just stealing this stuff. And they said, you know, it's not worth the trouble. That was legal's answer. That's true. Not worth the trouble. I can't get any money out of the guy. That's true. So that was the little tip.

CHAPTER 33 / 62 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations and New Knighthoods

Sir Matt Greensmith contributes $800 to the show, earning the title of Matthew, Baron of Melbourne. His donation note emphasizes the need for "sanity" in discussing the Paris events. Sir David Julian also contributes $500 from Morgan Hill, California. The hosts discuss the growing "peerage map" and the importance of listener support in maintaining their independent analysis.

matt greensmith· david julian· melbourne· australia· knighthood· peerage

1:18:33 Alright, alright, so where were we? Well, we're thinking of the yeah, we're going to we were just going to thank people I've just I think the chat room for saying nutty stuff. It's these days when you get people in who? Doesn't matter Yes, newbies of some sort. Yes, let us thank people who are supporting this program that guys who supported today's show We have one two three executive producers and one two three four associates Which is good the executive producer at the top of the list is sir Matt Greensmith who came in with $800 from Wheelers Hill Victoria, Australia, holy moly

1:19:10 Yes, that was I would consider a reasonably good amount. Yeah. And he says a note. Okay. It says, Dear Guardians of Reality, after a day of listening to friends and family prattle on about how recent events in Paris were completely unprovoked by an inherently evil group, I thought the best way I could pay tribute to all those people who have suffered on both sides is to support the people who are at least willing to consider that there are different views worth talking about. Those of us... And what group is that? Is that MSNBC? No Agendas Test Staff Team. Those of us that understand that there is no black and white and that good and evil applied to different groups are labels to oversimplify the discussion and help clamp down on dissent within the slave ranks, they need to have you in our lives for at least a few hours of sanity in discussing the week's events.

1:20:05 So I contributed $800 for two reasons, to acknowledge both the eighth year of TBPITU and the upcoming show 800, which is not that far away. Actually, it's a little bit. Also was enough to push me over to the third knighthood, and I would hereby like to claim the title of Matthew Baron of Melbourne. Or Melbourne. Melbourne. Melbourne. Melbourne. I look forward to hearing your deconstructions for many years to come and pledge to continue to hit people in the mouth within my protectorate no matter how futile it might... Oh, it's not futile. And when everything hits the fan and, you know, everything's down, there will be a peerage map

1:20:49 And people are like, oh, now I know who runs this part of the Earth I'm on. Yeah, when they had to rebuild the universe. Sir David Julian's also in with $500 from Morgan Hill, California. Oh wait, we should give Sir Matt a little bit of karma there. He didn't ask for anything. He gets karma because he deserves it. You've got karma. He deserves it. Thanks for lots of karma. Sir David Julian in Morgan Hill, California with $500 and he says, why? Why did he send $500 again? Because I love you, Sir Julian is all he says. So I think he deserves karma too. Absolutely. You've got karma.

CHAPTER 34 / 62 Discussion

Sir Luke of London and the 7-Day Guitar Method

Sir Luke of London donates $333.33 on his 33rd birthday and promotes his new online course, the "7-Day Guitar Method," hosted on Udemy. He offers a "noagenda" coupon code for listeners to access the course for free. The hosts discuss the "Bob Dylan neck brace" for harmonicas and grant "jobs karma" to Sir Luke as he transitions into his new venture.

luke of london· udemy· guitar method· bob dylan· jobs karma· coupon code

1:21:30 Good old Sir Luke of London, $333.33 in London, England. Even though I'm a baronet, just a baronet, I only just this week got around to ordering my night ring, looking forward to showing it off at Christmas parties. Oh. It's a good idea. Sunday shows my 33rd birthday. We have him on the list, I believe. We do. So what better time to donate, 333-333-3333. to the best podcast in the universe. I've been out of work for the last year or so, really enjoy giving some jobs, Karma. Really enjoy just getting by and having enjoyed small successes with my cycling events. No doubt helped by no agenda, Karma. Also, he listens to him, I think we're pumping.

1:22:09 I have some more karma to ask for. Winter is here and it's too cold for cycling events, so I put together an online course, 7-Day Guitar Method, and published it on Udemy, U-D-E-M-Y, like academy or udemy.com. I'll check that out, but I'm gonna check it out too. Yeah, seven days I can play guitar like Slash. With the harmonica, that stupid little thing that holds the harmonica in the air and you blow on it. Yeah, the Bob Dylan neck brace. Wait a minute, wait a minute. You're telling me you do the podcast and you don't already have one of those? Isn't that perfect? No, I'm just building a collection. So you can just be talking and then you put your head down and blow a little bit, blow a ditty?

1:22:53 Yeah, just a thought be talking away I Just that kind of thing yeah, he's also has a coupon code no agenda So that all listeners to the show can get it for free you want to learn the guitar seven day guitar method I'm gonna put this This is the way advertisers would do it all I ask says I get some positive reviews not included as a link It would be grateful if you could put it in the show notes. Thank you again for that Thanks for all you do for us listeners sir Luke of London. He's got a little link to I am I am putting In the show notes as we speak just let me double check that it works seven day guitar method yeah, and oh yeah, you get the Excellent you get the the discount included in the links when I put that in the show notes on the PR great Thank you so much anyone at jobs karma. I believe I think so jobs jobs jobs and jobs I

CHAPTER 35 / 62 Discussion

Producer Credits and the "No Agenda Formula"

The hosts read through a list of significant donations from producers including Sir Sean Connolly, James Richard, and Allen Chow. They acknowledge the "de-douching" of long-time listeners who haven't donated recently and reiterate the "No Agenda Formula" of hitting people in the mouth with deconstruction. The segment concludes with a reminder of the upcoming Thursday broadcast.

sean connolly· james richard· allen chow· festus· formula· deconstruction

1:23:54 Onward Sir Sean Connolly in Naperville, Illinois two three four five six chances Is a prepay for what I assume will be an excellent analysis of the Paris attack We got paid in advance one that we will hear nowhere else. Oh, that's yes. That's for sure That's for sure. That's for sure. We didn't even go off to deep end. I don't think no I would like to send karma to the dudes in To the dudes named Ben, I'm sorry, my former employer, they certainly deserve the support in spite of the... of the... of... Let me click this thing, I'm obviously running...

1:24:34 in spite of the mezzo, and if you put end of the day at the end of the show bin, it would be appreciated. In other words, at the end of the day clip, which is funny. Yeah, I think it's... But at the end of the day... I got it. That's it. Keep up the great work, Sir Sean. Excellent. We'll run that for you. Onward. James Richard in Watertown, Massachusetts. That's 23333. I'd looked into my records and found I haven't donated since 2013. What a douchebag! Well, not really. I guess I need some de-douching. Yeah, well, I'll do that right now. You've been de-douched. My wife and I see headlines in the blame stream media every day and our first reaction is, I guess we need to see what the Curry Dvorak company say. Yeah, consulting group.

1:25:26 Yeah, it's a consulting group. Give him some karma for that. Never bad, throw out some karma. You've got karma. A tad of karma. Allen Chow in Flushing, New York, 22222 says he knows he can count on no agenda to provide some meaningful coverage over Friday's Paris attacks. It's always sad when events like this happen, but often the hashtags and Facebook profile image overlays take takes the place of ever discussing the truth. Indeed. Yeah. So Festus in Vallejo, California, $208.21. And somebody said, I didn't say Festivus. Anyways, two thirds of, two of three in my quest for baronet by Christmas. Expect the third in December and it's Sir Festus, not Festivus.

1:26:19 Hmm. I don't remember. I know what festus I think of festus is in the gunsmoke show right and that's how old I am So by no festivism festus with the crazy flap floppy hat and you think I was limping it was a wall and Brennan I believe no no no Walter this is a did yeah, it was a it was a guy with a screech screechy and he has the floppy hat didn't you I thought of the floppy I don't remember festus had a floppy head or not We'll find out. But anyway, that's our group of producers and associate executive producers, executive producers for show 774. And we'd like to thank them all and remind people we do have another show coming up next Thursday where we'll probably do a little more on this Paris thing. Oh, no doubt. I'm guessing. Oh, if by then we aren't already rubalizing Damascus. Rubalizing the crap out of everything. Dvorak.org slash NA. Yes. And of course, we will be thanking everybody

1:27:16 $50 and above later on in the program. And these are the executive producer and associate executive producer credits. They are real. You can use them anywhere. Credits are accepted. And again, as John said, please remember us for this coming Thursday. Devorah.org slash N A. Rubble on the double. And we always need you out there doing the very important work of propagating our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, sleep! Shut up, sleep! Alright.

CHAPTER 36 / 62 Discussion

Sweden's Immigration Crisis and "Racism" Shaming

A YouTube video from Sweden highlights the country's high immigration rates and rising crime statistics, noting that public discussion of these issues is often suppressed by labels of "racism." The narrator claims Sweden has become the "rape capital of Europe" due to cultural clashes but that authorities refuse to address the root causes. The hosts view this as a "canary in the coal mine" for the rest of Europe.

sweden· rape capital· immigration· racism· middle east· africa

1:28:02 Let me hit you with two migrant clippies here. Yeah, migrants. As this is all related. It's all related to everything that's going down. You know, this is... They're worried that the European Union is going to fall apart. Well, we have some solutions now. But let's talk to this kid in Sweden. This YouTube video. Just pick up the intro. I thought you might be interested just to get some perspective. Hey, welcome to Sweden. This is the number one rape capital of Europe. Some say that this is because Sweden is very progressive and aware of destructive patriarchal norms, which is why our definition of rape is broader than in other countries, and more considerate to the victims. Others say that it's because of our massive levels of immigration, where we import thousands of people from countries in the Middle East and Africa, places that don't really have the best views on women's rights.

1:28:51 But it doesn't matter who is right. We will never know who is right, because we aren't allowed to talk about it. Here in Sweden, everything is considered racist. We now officially have the highest level of immigration in relation to the population here in Europe. and yet it's considered racist to suggest that we should decrease immigration, even though there's a lack of housing and has been for quite some time. We have an increasing number of immigrant beggars on our streets, and yet it's considered racist to suggest that we should ban the begging or try to get their own country to take care of them. I know that the definition of racism doesn't really apply to people asking for money, but it doesn't matter. This is Sweden. Everything is racist and nobody ever has to explain why. Yo!

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The Arctic Refugee Route through Russia to Norway

The BBC reports on a growing "Arctic route" for refugees traveling from Russia into northern Norway on bicycles. While the numbers are small compared to Mediterranean crossings, over 4,000 people have used this path since August. John C. Dvorak expresses skepticism about the story's validity, questioning why anyone would choose such a treacherous northern passage.

norway· russia· arctic route· bbc· murmansk· asylum seekers

1:29:36 I say this is a little canary in the coal mine. Pay close attention, people. This is what's happening all over Europe. If you want to question the immigration policy, if you want to question the authorities, you are shamed, I should say. You are shamed that you're a racist. Well, you just had that moment with the chat room guy. Yes, I did. I did, exactly. Oh, but this will continue to happen. And I just brought up one little extra clip just so I could... Give this for you, John, about the northern route. The northern route through from Russia to Norway. Yeah. This is another report. This is from the BBC. Where we are now is a reception center for

1:30:22 asylum seekers that have just arrived from Russia into northern Norway. This place has just opened today because there are so many people coming crossing over from Russia that the Norwegian authorities have had to build this center in less than four weeks to make sure that people have a roof over their heads. The numbers of people taking the Arctic route is tiny compared to the three quarters of a million who've crossed the Mediterranean this year. But it's growing. More than 4,000 have crossed the border since August. That's up from just 10 in 2014. And authorities are increasingly concerned that winter will make the passage a deadly one.

1:31:00 I think you're kind of still right. It doesn't seem like it's a hotbed of activity, but 4,000 people, you know, it's real. I think it's exaggerated. I think this story is bogus. Why don't we stay with the... Why maniacs are gonna do this? When people are desperate, they do desperate things. Yes, but this is beyond that. Let's just stop for a second at the shaming and... And what is the Russian... The Russians don't put up with this sort of thing. Yeah, come on through. Go down that road. We'll see you later. Don't stop in Murmansk, whatever you do. This is the BBC reporting. I can't do much about it. I have a new term for this white people who, you know, how about for the millennials? I have a term for the millennials with their safe spaces and their right to not be harassed. New term, cry bullies.

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"Cry Bullies" and the Rutgers University Free Speech Debate

The hosts introduce the term "cry bullies" to describe students who use claims of emotional unsafety to suppress free speech on college campuses. They critique Professor Brittany Cooper of Rutgers University for arguing that the "right to move through the world unharassed" is as fundamental as the First Amendment. The discussion touches on "white privilege" as a narrative tool used to dismiss concerns about the freedom of the press.

cry bullies· brittany cooper· rutgers university· free speech· white privilege· ableism

1:31:54 Cry bullies yeah cry bullies term. I like it's a good term. I'm gonna give you get picked up. Here's a cry bully writer for salon and She's also a professor at Rutgers University professor Brittany Cooper and Got got cry bully written all over. Yeah, have a listen to what she says. It's very interesting You got to pay close attention. These young black students are saying to us that surveillance is a threat to them And so they're not talking about trying to limit the press are trying to limit freedom of expression So this is about the all about the about the journalist professor or journalist? Yeah, who said you can't you can't come on my lawn my safe space

1:32:35 My safe space, and let's get some muscle over here. So she's—listen to what she says. Get some muscle over here. This is an interesting woman. They're trying to figure out how you have social movements in which black students are hyper-surveilled on these campuses and are hyper-visible, and also where media coverage of these stories is usually quite hostile to these students. It is not particularly sympathetic, especially when we're having ridiculous conversations as though— For instance, about freedom of speech when these students are really asking us to think about what it means for them to be physically and emotionally unsafe on these campuses. Emotionally unsafe? The problem is that you're making an argument, sir, that free speech is the most fundamental concern here.

1:33:16 Look, African-American folks have always had to fight for our rights to enjoy all of these freedoms. And so, we value them just like you do. But there is something that is as fundamental as the right to free speech, and that is the right to move through the world unharassed. And so— Wait a minute. Let me get my—but where's my Constitution? Let me make sure I have, let me just, is this a human right? The right to not be harassed? And that's more important or as important as free speech? Professor, I beg to differ. Unharassed. And so what we have here is a complicated situation in which the sort of, there's a white privilege in the ability to make this conversation about the threat to freedom of speech. This is the best thing I've heard yet. There's a white privilege to make the issue that is going on

1:34:02 About freedom of speech so the white privilege allows you to change the narrative to make it about something that they're not interested in talking about which is free speech and freedom of the press. This conversation about the threat to freedom of speech and it supplants our ability to have a more robust conversation about the threat to move through the world in an African-American or black body without being harassed. You know I'm sorry I've got to stop. You can be harassed because you're in a trans body a woman body purple body yellow body Short people nobody is short people be no legs all people. Yeah able is the weather up there ableism ableism is a big part of it ableism you heard ableism ha that means you prefer people without Handicaps above the disabled its ableism. Oh

1:34:57 Oh, you're an ableist. Yeah, an ableist. Oh, God. These are the cry bullies. The cry bullies, I tell ya. I had something here from... I have a thesis coming out in the... maybe the next show, hopefully, or the show after about the social justice warriors. Oh man, oh. Well, it was nice knowing you, nice doing this show. And it was developed by Buzzkill Jr. and his buddy Duncan, David Duncan, and it's absolutely a stunner. When do we get to hear this? Well, I want to get a couple more little tidbits to add to it. You can hear now, but I'm not gonna... No, I don't want to hear now. I do want to say that when it comes to Gamergate and SWJ social... SJW, Social Justice Warriors, the... I can tell you what it is. A bunch of cry bullies writing way too much copy is what it is. Every single time someone says, oh, hey, I'm glad you guys are talking about it. Let me explain it to you.

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Alan Dershowitz on the "Fog of Fascism" in Academia

Attorney Alan Dershowitz criticizes the "double standard" of college students who demand personal freedoms while seeking "safe places" from challenging ideas. He compares the current campus climate to the 1930s, noting that students were the first to start burning books under the Nazi regime. Dershowitz warns that a "fog of fascism" is descending on American universities as administrators fail to stand up to student protesters.

alan dershowitz· johns hopkins· mccarthyism· book burning· larry summers· missouri

1:35:57 10,000 words later true. I don't care. It's a bunch of all yeah, that's a problem. Oh, oh, well there you go How about don't forget by Vance you take adderall you're writing 10,000 words instead John good idea all right, but please save it for Thursday I'm already loving it. I'm Already loving it. Here's a not always my favorite guy Alan Dershowitz the lawyer.

1:36:38 I think it's much better than the blown out kind of look she had. I think the only reason Dershowitz does her show so much... Just to look at her. I think he's got a crush on her. And work here. They say, why can't we have those same rules on college campuses? You can't talk that way, you can't say those things, because this is an institution, this is a place where you shouldn't have to be subjected to that. Well, these are the same people who claim they're seeking diversity. The last thing many of these students want is real diversity, diversity of ideas. They may want superficial diversity of gender, superficial diversity of color, but they don't want diversity of ideas. You know, I don't want to make analogies to the 1930s, but we have to remember

1:37:15 that it was the students at universities who first started burning books during the Nazi regime. And these students are book burners, but it's the worst kind of hypocrisy. They want complete freedom over their sex lives, over their personal lives, over the use of drugs, but they want mom me and daddy dean and president to please give them a safe place, protect them from ideas that may be insensitive. when i spoke at johns hopkins university, some of the protesting students, the same students who were talking about safe places, painted a hitler mustache on my posters. no concern about that, it's an absolute double standard. it is free speech for me but not for thee, and universities should not tolerate this kind of

1:37:54 double standard and college administrators have to start treating students as adults and talking back to them. Where is their spine? As somebody who's been in academia, where is the spine of these administrators? They're all afraid. They're all afraid. After Larry Summers got fired from Harvard, after the president of Missouri gets fired, college administrators don't want to have to confront students. You have to speak back to the students. You have to call these things what they are. Double-standard hypocrisy, bigotry, McCarthyism, and the fog of fascism is descending quickly over many American universities. Yes, the fog of fascism. Let's stop because we've run into others. I forgot a few shows ago I ran into somebody else where I said, well you made your own bed.

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Social Justice Warriors and the Academic Labor Market

The hosts discuss the rise of "Social Justice Warriors" (SJWs) and the historical parallels between modern campus movements and the intellectual origins of fascism. They argue that college administrators are afraid to confront students because the academic labor market is poor and the threat of lawsuits is high. Adam Curry suggests that students are being used as "pawns" in a larger machinery of social control.

social justice warriors· sjw· gamergate· fascism· labor market· lawsuits

1:38:37 And Dershowitz is one of the guys behind this sort of thinking that turned on him. And I'm sure the Hitler mustaches drove him crazy. But if anyone was a left-wing, screaming left-winger that would be pushing this sort of thinking until it happens to them, that's Dershowitz. So I'm not sympathetic towards his play. I think he's dead on. I agree. Well, here's what I want. We have college students listening to the show. You maybe uncle Adam and uncle John for once you just say here's what you're doing to yourself because you're setting yourselves up Your pawns you're being pawns of us I think of a larger machinery that is grinding into place and you are going to wake up one day and you'll be completely enslaved Yeah, well, they're not already You white privilege will get your black privilege. You'll be slaves say that this is

1:39:35 comment about the book burnings in Europe during the fascist growing movement that started in the late 20s, actually. And it was considered an intellectual movement. If you look into the history of the fascists, it was considered an intellectual movement, highly supported by the universities. And of course, then again, you make your own bed and as soon as it started to get rolling and turn into national socialism, which was inevitable, the same professors who would be advocating it in the German, high German universities were all taken out and shot. Yeah, you know, good work. It is said that the people are revolting. You said it, they stink on ice. Yeah, the people are revolting.

1:40:19 No, I'm hearing daily reports that teacher wanted to show some movie in class. He yelled that in class as a racist. Oh no, it's going to be very, very bad. And you know when South Park makes a parody, a whole song parody about your safe spaces, come on, get a clue. You know, you say, oh, that's just old guy humor now? No. South Park is on the cutting edge of mockery. And they're mocking you South Park is mocking you. That's bad with South Park. Yeah, but it's what's going on and you know the students there What they want to do. It's what they want to do

1:41:03 Exactly why they're not...I mean, I think the academic situation is pretty much like free enterprise. It should work itself out if it's allowed to, and this should be expunged, just all the bad things that are going on right now. And these administrators, the problem with them is that they have no other place to get a job because... labor conditions. I mean, the labor market in this country is just crap. And also, you know, you can get sued and, you know, putting hands on somebody. There's another person getting sued. Yeah, there's all kinds of issues. But she has somebody with a low...with a bunch of lawyers, volunteer lawyers that are doing a bunch of lawsuits, suing everybody left and right because it cost you $40,000 just to get out of the suit. You know, nobody wants to throw away that kind of money.

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"The Real" Talk Show on Cell Phone Radiation

A segment from the multicultural talk show "The Real" features the hosts discussing the dangers of sleeping with cell phones near their heads. One host, Tamara Mowry-Housley, suggests a "scientific test" involving putting a phone near a microwave to hear "weird noises." John C. Dvorak finds it significant that none of the hosts challenged the idea that cell phones cause cancer, indicating a shift in mainstream public perception.

the real· cell phone radiation· brain cancer· microwave test· multiculturalism· tamara mowry

1:41:58 Anyway, okay, you made your point whatever that was I've got Yeah, I got one somewhere here's one I thought that this was fascinating you know I you listen to The view or whatever it's called. I religiously and I not religiously I listen to the real. Ah, yes. This is the view in reverse. No, this is no it's a view that's truly multicultural except for no whites and This is the future of multiculturalism you're out and what does this air on what network? It's one of the syndicated show so it could be anywhere. I

1:42:43 Okay, it's not a network show in fact the view was never a network show until recently okay The networks are finally getting a clues. Yeah, he's made good money. Yeah people like this now I thought this was this is a little segment on the real the real on cell phones now. I want to set this up I like this, I don't really enjoy the show in general, because I find it annoying, but I like it for its cultural references to mainstream thinking, especially in a multicultural, black, Hispanic, Asian, um, tip, milieu. And so there are things that are commonplaces within that milieu that most people don't know about, they don't pay attention to, they don't think about. I do.

1:43:30 And this was floored me because this is a meme, I don't even know if it's true or not necessarily, but it's something that the cell phone companies have been trying to minimize. No, no, no, it doesn't know, brain cancer, it's got nothing to do with us. This is what they're actually talking about and thinking about at this level, it's astonishing. If you guess what. Exactly. I always get away with it. I wonder why I do have to mention this you guys make sure I hope you guys aren't texting and driving That's the number one thing. I don't drive in general you don't But so I have no problem with that okay The other thing is I was told not to sleep, but I normally sleep with my phone literally like right by my face. That's not good either, eh? Yeah, that's the radiation. The radiation can get to your head.

1:44:21 Did she just say for reals did I hear that yeah My favorite for reals was told not to sleep, but I normally sleep with my phone literally like right by my face Do you think that's true Yeah, definitely. All you have to do, you know what? You know how you can test it, you guys? Everyone I'm sure has a microwave, right? Just put the phone close to the microwave and for some reason it makes this weird noise. It's like, nnng, nng, nng, nng. Wait, what? Yep, yep. Maybe it was just my microwave, I don't know.

1:44:59 We're gonna use Tamara's scientific test which everyone tonight is going home and taking their phones and if we don't hear Okay, that's it for girl chat today, but stay in those seats. We've got more of the real coming up. Oh man She put her head in the microwave kudos for me to listen to this show. Yeah, it's not clip of the day It's not borderline, but it is brave It's interesting to me. Okay. It was without not one person said this is bullcrap. This has been studied. There's nobody, there's just radio radiation. There's no way it could cause cancer or cause anything. No, no, uh-uh. They're all in on this, which tells me that the some, this is, I think it's just a bad sign for those, for the cell phone companies. Hmm.

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RF Burns and High-Frequency Safety

Following the discussion on cell phones, the hosts share their personal precautions regarding radio frequency (RF) exposure. Adam Curry mentions his respect for high-frequency equipment after suffering an "RF burn" from a low-wattage transmitter. John C. Dvorak admits he uses speakerphone and avoids carrying his phone in his front pocket, reflecting a general caution toward long-term radiation exposure.

rf burn· ham radio· vhf· uhf· speakerphone· radiation

1:45:52 Because everybody on that show is all in. Where is that? Where do they, how do they get all in on this? What influenced them to make them think this? You know, I don't know. I mean, I kind of think it myself. I always say, you know, don't be on the phone all day. And I usually use the speakerphone when I use my cell phone. I don't even carry it in my front pocket anymore. Yeah, you don't want to put it near your yeah, no well see you get the same thing I think when I listen to these women I said the whole world must be thinking this and they just been spent suppressed hmm well, I'm very respectful of High frequency very high frequency and ultra high frequency Because I've been burned. I've gotten I've gotten burned an RF burn. Yeah for five watts. Yeah, I get a burn I

1:46:38 Well the phones aren't five watts. That's for sure no, but in every I'm just saying you can get from five watch I mean you can get a real burden Yeah, just from touching a knob that has a screw in it or something. Yeah, yes, I know I'm very dangerous very good. I'm very good. Hey you want to hear about Marfa Marfa yeah, I'm in Marfa remember. Oh, yeah, Marfa. Oh, yeah, let's talk about Marfa Let's talk about the telescope and let's talk about the nickel on the moon. Yeah, well we're supposed to be a quarter oh All right, they changed it. They changed the story All right, so we go up to mcdonald observatory And the guy had driven all the way from austin uh To joel he had to give us a personal tour and we were invited to have dinner. What's your relationship to him? uh, you recall two obama bot dinners ago carolyn porter who is the uh development director for the giant magellan telescope of which 100 million dollars will be from university of texas in chile

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McDonald Observatory Tour and Dark Energy Research

Adam Curry provides details of his private tour of the McDonald Observatory, facilitated by the development director of the Giant Magellan Telescope. He describes the various telescopes, including the 10-meter Hobby-Eberly Telescope, and the ongoing research into pulsars and dark energy. Curry notes the high number of female astronomers and the international "vibe" of the facility despite the cloudy weather preventing visual observation.

mcdonald observatory· dark energy· pulsars· spectrography· ccd cameras· chile

1:47:36 And then she's the one that said, hey, when that thing's built, you can see the quarter on the moon. And meanwhile, would you like to go see our facilities at the McDonald Observatory? We said, yeah. And she followed up and she set it up for us. She wasn't there. Did you get to go in and see that big giant scope? We saw all of them. We saw the original one from the thing, which was from 1932. Did you look through it? Well, Couldn't see anything. Well, so these days it's not really like you just walk up to the eyepiece and they've got CCD cameras and everything Yeah, that's what I thought strapped on to him and it was very cloudy So while we could not get any visual pictures, of course, everyone's bummed out but you know, it's what it is there was a lot of spectog- spect- spectography going on

1:48:20 because when you... Spectrophotography? I think it's spectrography. Because they use a spectrograph. Yeah. So they're using spectrographs to find... well there's two pieces of research going on right now. One is pulsars. So pulsars are very exciting because that means they're turning into a dwarf knight. There's 100% of the scientists were in consensus that the universe is expanding and expanding more rapidly and that is because of dark energy, which is another thing they're looking for here to understand what dark energy is. They're just trying to balance an equation. But forget all that. There were astronomers at this place, John? And I'd say it's about, probably looks like it's 50% women, maybe even a little more.

1:49:08 Smoking hot! The girl from Brazil! And they work at night! Oh my god! You have a little tracksuit action going on. Yeah, oh let me just bounce around and oh hold on we'll turn the dome for you. And then we went to the big, the 10 meter telescope. That thing's ridiculous. And it's cool because it's like a hundred... It's got a 30 foot, it's got a 30 foot mirror. Yeah, that's huge. It's the biggest telescope in I think Hawaii has a bigger one I think. Okay, well okay. But you know that it's not one single piece. Yeah, it's a bunch of hexagons. Yeah, it's a hexagon of mirrors.

1:49:48 And then, you know, they're putting this new spectrograph thing in, and the undergrad kids were all here, and everyone's... I mean, it was a great vibe, really cool. Of course, you know, I don't know what the point is of all of it. You know, it's a... all right, great. You're gonna, you know, look at some pulsing stars and stuff. But everyone's really excited, and again, I just want to reiterate, I mean, hot babes in astronomy these days. It's funny yeah, yeah, so it was a bummer cuz this hey buddy the scopes over there I'm sorry And they do they're like some Developers software developers, and you know crazy-looking guys. You know hair all wire like real geniuses just super fun

1:50:36 We had dinner there and there's people from South Africa and from Japan and from the UK. Crowd at that telescope great crowd and on so they do these star parties on Friday night And then they put a whole bunch of pretty high-powered telescopes out and of course the ambient light is you know non-existent It's a great altitude, but it was it was almost raining. It's just so cloudy so unfortunately we didn't get to see anything with our with our own eyes But it was is very impressive and anyone can come up and visit I mean you may not get the same tour that we got but you can definitely see

1:51:12 And you probably won't talk to a lot of the astronomers, but you can see all the gears. They have a lot of little scopes. They got tons, tons. And the story, the whole story of how it came to be and how these, you know, how the money was raised for these telescopes and what they've done with them. And yeah, the one from 19, was it 1930? No, the one from 1960. It's like the most research papers in the world on astronomy have used data from this telescope. And they got a radio telescope and that's what all these places do that. They have this wow we hold 800 papers are written using this telescope, and they all do that, and I'm sure that the McDonald the big one I love how the chat room says how much did they pay you Adam? What are you?

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Marfa Local Color and the Hubble Telescope Gaffe

The hosts discuss the technical challenges of large telescopes, including the need for liquid nitrogen cooling and temperature adjustments. They recall the famous "gaffe" where the Hubble Space Telescope's mirror was ground incorrectly, requiring a space shuttle mission to install corrective optics. Adam Curry also mentions his travel route through Junction, Texas, on the way to Marfa.

marfa· hubble telescope· liquid nitrogen· junction texas· astronomy· mirrors

1:52:01 pay for what? I don't know. I'm not looking at the chat room today. It's a holes in there. What would you get paid for this? When people jump in their cars right now and head to the middle of nowhere? Oh yeah, it's a profit center for them. Yeah. No, okay, so now get that from somebody the other day. There's bitching about something I said, what are you doing? It sounds like an advert I will get a crap from this guy's a Website that we plugged right? Hey, it's the way we do the show if you don't like it go listen to with somebody else Okay, so now so and we left Thursday night after the show we stayed overnight in Junction, Texas You know and one of those small RV places and Junction, Texas has to be a junction. It is a junction That's where you pick up the the ten

1:52:49 From 290 it had to be a junction for something. I'm sure the town wasn't just recently named No, I'm junction after the 10 with John. I'm sorry. I forgot to look that one up for you But I have other good news. I have things to report from Martha. So Martha population 2121 That's what's on the sign. Did you while you were up at the scopes with all these superstars? Yeah, did you ask any of them if they've ever seen a flying saucer? I did. Yep. And they laughed and said, Nope. And I said, Do you think I can see the quarter on the moon? And they all looked at me like,

1:53:26 I've never heard that before. I was hoping you... I went online looking for it. No, there's no mention, no reference, no mention. I said, well, you know, your development director was the one who told me that. She must have been pulling your leg. That's what I was thinking. I said, can I see the footprints, the flag? Said, no, we can only show you a kilometer from a kilometer distance. So you wouldn't be able to see. That doesn't make sense to me. They can't get any closer than a kilometer view? That's probably what it is. It's a long ways away. It's a quarter of a million miles away. I mean, come on. And then you go into the atmosphere, it's going to be all blurry. And I learned a lot of things about telescopes and how they have to be adjusted from time to time due to temperature changes. They got liquid nitrogen trying to keep everything the same temperature. Big ones especially have problems. But apparently the Hubble telescope, they made a mistake. I didn't know exactly. Remember it was broken and didn't work? Everybody knows about the mistake. What was the mistake?

1:54:31 They ground it wrong or something. They had to send up guys up there to fix it. Yeah, they ground it wrong. And they never really fixed it officially. What they did was they adjusted the way it was focusing or something and that was good enough adjustment. And the results are fantastic. So I can't imagine if it was actually built to spec. Yeah, so that was apparently some... It was off spec. Incredible embarrassment. And then launched. But it was nice, it was very, just learned a lot of science stuff. A lot of my ham radio knowledge is applicable, understanding how they're doing these types of experiments and what they're looking for. It was really nice. And we had parked the Airstream of Consciousness at

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Buns and Roses Quonset Hut in Marfa

Adam Curry describes a unique Marfa establishment called "Buns and Roses," a Quonset hut that serves as a bakery and flower shop. He meets the owners, Debbie and "Bird" (William Parrott), and learns about the affordability of steel building kits. The conversation includes local characters like "Trucks" and the history of Marfa as the filming location for the movie "Giant" starring James Dean.

buns and roses· quonset hut· marfa· james dean· elizabeth taylor· future steel buildings

1:55:14 Kind of the first park that I got when I was just searching around for it, the Tumble Inn RV Park, which is... Tumble Inn, perfect. And it's almost like, it is like you expect tumbleweeds here. And in fact, I'm expecting Burlington Northern to come by because it's right by the train tracks which runs through Marfa. And so we were walking around a bit and we went to breakfast and I didn't want to, you know, this is, you have the, what's the name of the hotel here? The One Hotel. Camera the Marfa Hotel now it's the one where everyone stayed when they did the movie giant because there's one movie that was shot here And it was and it's everyone's it's like an Italian or something paisano And so it was James Dean Elizabeth Taylor Rock Hudson, and you know that's what the town was famous for before Judd came in with the Chianti the Chianti and

1:56:07 The Chanti Foundation turned it into a big art hub. But right now there's no art shows going on so it's pretty empty. And we found a place for breakfast called, get ready for it, Buns and Roses. Wow. And this is a little off the tourist map. Is it the Hotel St. George? No. The Thunderbird? No. It's the Paisano? Paisano. Paisano. Okay. Yeah. So and and so we drive out to this place. It's not like as far everything is within six minutes, and it's a Quonset hut Dynamite I'll get ready for it. It's a beautiful Quonset hut 50 by 30 really high ceiling and they sell roses and pastry buns and roses and Regular breakfast, and you know there's like the sheriff is in there with his bad once it hot restaurant and

1:56:57 It's a Quonset hut, it's like a diner, but they also sell roses and flowers. Buns and roses. So you go inside? Yes, look, the point is get on the Googles and take a look at it while I'm telling you the story. So we're sitting there and we're talking and the owner, Debbie, and her husband comes in, Bird. His name is William Parrott, but everyone called me Bird. Bird. Bird. And I said, yeah, really, and they had poured concrete, it was beautifully stained. And I said, and so what they have in this little compound is they have the restaurant and then they have a wrecking service and another Quonset hut in the back, which is like a garage where they, you know, there's, you know, there's a,

1:57:39 Okay, I'm look there's a Lincoln with suicide. No true quonset hot well, but just listen to me. Will you yeah? I'm just saying go on what was cool inside So I said do you mind if I asked what it cost to build this you said well? If you go to future steel buildings calm Right now a lot of people you know have purchased one But they they can't afford it or whatever and they're letting them go and you can pick up something like this They paid $12,000 for the entire kit outside of the floor just for the for the Quonset hut yeah And then he said, and I said, oh man, I've been thinking about this. He says, I'll build it for you. All right. I said, okay. So now we're talking about that. You know, how, what would it cost? And he said, I can say, I can probably put the whole thing with the floor, this size plumbing. So I'll do the condo. I won't do the electric, electrical, but I'll do the conduits. It'd be like, it'd probably be done for about 20 grand. So this is Bert. This is Bert, not Bert, Bird. William Parrott, call him Bird.

1:58:40 And then we get a little tour of his compound. He's got a pit bull, he's got a cat named Dog, it doesn't get any better than that. And there's two dudes hanging out next to the wrecking truck. And they say, hey, what's your name? I said, hey, I'm Adam, this is Tina, what's your name? Trucks. And Tina says, that's your real name? Trucks. Yeah, Trucks. And the guys go, how do you spell that? T-R-O-X. trucks And so we're chatting and okay, this is me great Yeah, I get his card and we talk about you know when we talk about welding because he's a arc welder You know you know he's just weird like we were talking the other day about welding and Then he says well. We doing we all doing that I said we're gonna go there's only one restaurant in town I think that that you'd want to go to and he says well Why don't you come to building 98?

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Building 98 and German POW Murals

Adam Curry visits "Building 98" in Marfa, a former military barracks that housed German prisoners of war during World War II. The building is famous for murals painted by the prisoners, depicting Texas landscapes. Curry attends a local Rotary Club benefit at the site, noting the "potluck" culture and the preservation of the historic artwork.

building 98· pow murals· marfa· german prisoners· rotary club· fort d.a. russell

1:59:33 The building 98. Yeah, it's like everyone's going to be there. It's a benefit for the rotary club here in town. And you say, okay, but I'm looking, I can't find building 98. He says, no, no, no, I'll drive you. I'll show you where it is. He gets in his wrecking truck, you know, wheelie with four wheels in the back. And we're following this. Bird is not a rule follower. Bird is driving 50 and through the 25 and like okay I'm just gonna go right behind him and we're peeling around Marfa and we come to this building it turns out building 98 was where they kept When this all used to be a base where they kept German prisoners of war and they famously if you look it up created these Murals the the prisoners of war the German prisoners were

2:00:19 Painted murals on all the walls inside these barracks is a very cool building. I've never heard about this being in Marfa And there lo and behold was it like a potluck dinner with the restaurants and brought in stuff, and it's all locals It's a teen and I walk it we're sticking out like sore thumbs. I'm like hey and they had barbecue and you know they had a like two guys playing some crazy like bluegrass and Then they gave away door prizes. It was it was phenomenal to to be in in the culture of of Marfa Yeah, I've been looking at it the building now. Yeah, it's something that if you're if you come to Marfa you should check it out Well, I don't really think that's ever gonna happen Why not it's a good idea a little I mean I guess you know it's a little out of the way

CHAPTER 47 / 62 Discussion

Rug Merchant Hussein and the Turkish Political Climate

While in Marfa, Adam Curry meets a Turkish rug merchant named Hussein who is afraid to return to Turkey due to his political posts on Facebook. They discuss the influence of Fethullah Gülen and the marginalization of the Kurdish population. The conversation shifts to the artistry of Turkish and Iranian rugs, including "war rugs" from Afghanistan that feature designs of tanks and Kalashnikovs.

hussein· turkish rugs· fethullah gülen· kurds· facebook· war rugs

2:01:11 A lot of the way I got in I can go to France when the prices are low Paris right now We should probably be planning that trip should be cool. You should be leaving tomorrow Anyway, so we're gonna stay here. I'm gonna murals are all a lot of them are just Texas Landscapes and stuff interesting yeah, I'm pretty famous So you had dinner there. Yeah, and I went out to have a vape. People out there smoking in kind of a courtyard. And this guy from Turkey. And he was in town to sell rugs. What else do they do and it turns out he's always it by way, but went to Turkey once and I bought some rugs And I knew you would like that this guy. Yeah, how could you not and I still get phone calls sometimes from Turkey sometimes? They're out here. Oh And it's always in this Turkish accent. I you know we're gonna be out there with the truck full of rugs Yeah, you know you want to take a look you want to buy some more rugs? By the way, I'm gonna walk out there. You're done for life. I

2:02:14 You will be haunted by the Turks. The guy's name is Hussein and he was visiting Marfa with his girlfriend and we'd actually seen them with their rugs out on the sidewalk, very hippie-ish. And this guy's kind of, you know, like a hippie Turk, you know, gray long hair and kind of interesting guy. Everyone out there smoking cigarettes. And he said, yeah, I'm opening up a store in Austin. I'm burning it in I think 38th or 39th. And I said, yeah, so you go back to Turkey? He said, I'm trying to stay away. I said, yeah, it's kind of, you know me, right? I'm launching into it. Yeah, kind of crappy, especially with what's going on. And I throw out Gula and the guy goes, oh, you know what's going on? I said, yeah. And he had an interesting rap he was saying, but he said, what is happening

2:03:02 Because of course everyone's very afraid now. He's afraid to go back to Turkey for stuff he has posted on his Facebook page. He said they pick you right up at the airport. I'm not gonna go back. I don't want to risk getting picked up. Everything that was so great 10, 15 years ago or 20 years ago is now all being turned around, it's going to be completely messed up. He says what's happening with Islam is what happened to all other religions. He says, you know, after, you know, 1,000, 1,500, 2,000 years, people split off and, you know, I guess somehow that was his feeling of, that was his way of explaining what's happening to himself. But then regarding the Kurds, he was really all pro-Kurds.

2:03:44 That's odd. Yeah, and he was saying, you know, these people... That's what's gonna get him picked up. Yeah, I think that's what he was probably posting on Facebook. He said, these people have been marginalized and, you know, if you're walking there with your mom and the soldiers come up and they call your mom a whore and a slut and they harass her, so what are you gonna do when you grow up? You're gonna want to go kill them. Yeah. So he had that take on the Kurds in Turkey, but to him it was too dangerous to even go back just for stuff he had posted on Facebook. Well, as long as he has access to the rugs, he can make a living. Yeah. By the way, Turkish rugs are fantastic. Yes. Second in the world only, I believe, to the Iranian rugs. And a bunch of rugs, needless to say, I'd like crap loads for rugs. We got a room up north with guys just like, because you can get, if you know what you're doing, you can get a, you can get, you can get inexpensively. You have a monogrammed your rugs?

2:04:38 No, but I've thought about, I've got some ideas for making some custom rugs. But one of the, I do have a war rug, which is my most collectible rug. At least to me, I think the war rugs are really cool. And I've only got one, I'd like to get a couple more. And these are the rugs that are made usually in Afghanistan. by families who have been traumatized by the war. And all the little design elements are all guns and tanks and explosions. All groovy stuff. Yeah. Nice stuff. And I have one that's pretty old because it has mostly Kalashnikovs on it. It doesn't have any American indicators, so it's probably from the Russian era. Anyway, so we'll pick up some more local color tonight.

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Boston Marathon Victim Scam and "Unneeded Wordage"

The hosts discuss the case of Joanna Lee, a woman who pleaded guilty to scamming $40,000 from Boston Marathon bombing victim funds despite not being injured. This leads into a new project: a "glossary of unneeded wordage" or "Slave Speak." The hosts list overused phrases like "at the end of the day," "fact of the matter," and "basically," which they believe are used to stall the brain before speaking.

joanna lee· boston marathon· gofundme· fraud· glossary· slave speak

2:05:23 Tonight's the night of the dinner? No, we had the dinner. That was last night. But Tina the Keeper, she's in town. She's going to rustle up something, I'm sure. She's great to travel with. She's like anyone. Hey, how you doing? She just immediately asks people about themselves and just winds them up and they talk forever. I just like, I need my recorder. Some of this is good. And I know she travels light, so that's a plus. Oh, light. You should take her to Paris. Light is not even the word. I think she's been to Paris. Yeah, but she hasn't been to Paris. No, no, she did. She backpacked in college. She went to Paris. Ah, it's not bad. I know. Hello. I said, darling, we must put our locks on the bridge. I love a lock of love. April in Paris, baby. We're saving up. Saving up quite a bit. But now, yeah, I think you can get there cheap.

2:06:22 It's kind of cold anyway, so what difference does it make? Hey, we wanted to play a quick little clip. This is just something that popped up on the radar. This is one of the victims of the Boston Marathon. Did you hear about this story? No. What's her name? I think they mentioned it in the story. A very good looking woman, she was supposedly one of the victims of the Boston bombing and took victim money, been a GoFundMe thing, all kinds of cash, I think totaling $60,000 or $70,000. People found out she was scamming. She wasn't there. She was just she just said hey I'll take this money and she pled guilty to it in court. Joanna Lee with little to say about what happened today in this courtroom. Guilty. Soft-spoken and with little expression she pleaded guilty to taking money meant to help the victims of the marathon bombing.

2:07:15 Never was there an explanation. Back in May, we uncovered this picture taken about a half mile away from where she says she was injured on the day of the bombing. But it never proved any signs of injury. I sat there wiping blood off his face and they're turning it into something ugly. Prosecutors say Lee wasn't even in this area when the bombs went off. She wasn't hurt and didn't seek medical treatment until two weeks later, claiming she had a traumatic brain injury from running to the blast site to help the wounded. I knew these claims to be false when she made them. Today in court, prosecutors laid out how she collected about $40,000 in donations, including $900 from cosmetic services, $9,000 from a GoFundMe page, about $18,000 from the state's Victims of Violent Crime Compensation program.

2:08:03 Another $1,800 from a school donation and $8,000 from the One Fund, the group helping bombing victims. After today's hearing, Lee's attorney blamed her actions to claim the money on stupidity. If she really did this properly, she would have gotten money. I mean, it's like a crazy crime, you know? It's like stupid. While she was sentenced to one year in jail that was suspended to probation, meaning no jail time, she also agreed to pay back the money. But the woman who once was so vocal about what happened to her, now with nothing to say. So we should just let that be. Don't do any investigative work. Let me ask you this. How did she get caught? I don't know.

2:08:44 It's a very suspicious story. I've seen these stories, they crop up every once in a while. And it's some schlub, but there was one, I think about a year ago we did it. Some schlub, you know, does some minor scam. It's like, oh brother. And it's always like, you know, some, it's innocuous. It's not like she hit anybody over the head and took their wallet. And, uh, and I always wonder if these whole things are just a whole thing. It's not a phony story just to keep people from doing these simple scams. Could be. She's beautiful. I have no idea. I didn't know about that. I do have a little project I want to just mention to you though, okay? I'm putting up a web page well or something. Are you using front page for this? Yeah front page 98 I love front page You can't even get it in no agenda running. Okay. This is a no agenda running glossary of unneeded wordage Ah is it headless Drupal?

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SlaveSpeak.com and the "Amazing" Restaurant Review Meme

Adam Curry announces the registration of SlaveSpeak.com to host a list of linguistic filler words and "performatives." They critique the overreliance on the word "amazing" in restaurant reviews and television commentary. The hosts invite listeners to submit more examples of "unneeded wordage" that contribute to a decline in precise communication.

slavespeak.com· linguistics· amazing· restaurant reviews· performatives· filler words

2:09:40 Most of these come at the beginning of a sentence and are unnecessary and mostly stupid. Some believe they are used automatically, robot-like to get the brain in gear before beginning to actually speak. And what I want is more of these. Can I make a suggestion? I just want to make a suggestion. I would be happy to maintain the page if you list words I know, but I'm kind of a little better at maintaining things. Okay, here we go. Here's some of the phrases. Okay. At the end of the day. Which was overused during the Democratic debate. Overused. Yes, it was. Overused. Fact of the matter. Overused. We should play that at the end of the show as well. We have fact of the matter, don't we? Fact of the matter, we do have that. Truth of the matter.

2:10:31 Yeah, that's also, yeah. But you know, that's judiciously used. When all is said and done. Yeah, that's another one. Yeah, no. Basically. Basically. So. How about, what you're missing, what is... I haven't read the list yet. You make a note and you see if I missed it so Mm-hmm, and here's what you hear once in a while is usually low lives fucking a Do you have right on in there

2:11:06 No, because right on is not... I should have it as arcane, because nobody uses it. Well, they do. I think it is on here. No, maybe not. Right on is definitely... No, but these types of words should... I'm sure there's a linguistic term besides stop words, factual... What else is there? Essentially. Essentially. You need that one off. Essentially. That's got to be... Hold on a second. Let me write that down. Essentially, basically... Do you have it's funny? Yep, yeah Okay, if I can a oh wow I Use that one. Oh wow yeah, like this literally by the way yeah Yeah, I have literally now is this gonna be on the same website as the mile high club I Don't think so okay By the way be

2:12:03 Be that as it may. Ooh, another good one. We need to have a term for this. Yeah, there is one. Talk to your linguistics guy. You have a friend that knows about this. Yeah, they don't talk to me anymore. I yelled at him about them shaming me. Oh, is that the guy? Yeah. The guy who has all the moral licensing and all that? That guy? No, you mean the performatives? Yeah. Yeah, that guy. Yeah. Oh, that's a shame. Yeah, that guy. Maybe he still listens. Say he doesn't listen. No, he doesn't. No one listens. Um, um, yeah, um is actually used at the beginning of a sentence. Do you have right? I've got that but that's that's at the end of a sentence the beginning all right um You know what's funny. Yeah, you know what's funny. Yeah, that's a big one. That's and that's a big one right now Guess what? Yeah? This is good. I want us to make our own term though. Don't you understand? Oh, it's gonna take a while You know what?

2:13:00 Okay. Listen. Yeah. Look. Look. What's the next one? No matter what. That's a great question. Sell it. I should put that on there in some form. In other words. Great question. You know, I'm telling you. Yeah. You're on a roll. Yeah. Well, yeah. It's all me. It's all me. I'm telling you. But really. What? But really. But really. Excellent. Another good one, right? Yeah. The thing is... I think I have... did I have the thing is? Let me say this about that. That's a performative. Be that as it may, we had that one in there already? Yeah, yeah, that's in. Yeah. Seriously. Ah! Good one. Good one, Skepticon. Good one. Seriously. What's the point? No, that doesn't go at the beginning of the sentence. I don't think that works. Or the point is... my point is... the point is...

2:14:05 No, it's not like this. The other one that you mentioned, which is at the end of a sentence, and I think you said it once today. So as I was saying, so as I was saying, let me finish the list. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. Google. Right. Yeah. Okay. And right. That's it. That's the end of my list. And you have the new ones, which I'll put on. And now you had some any other ones come to mind. Onward No Okay, Google. Hey Siri and Alexa I Think I think that's a good start, but I would like to call this Type of yeah Language something that is our own name. Oh you want us to dream up a term for these terms. Yeah Now that you mention it now that I mentioned it yeah, I

2:15:04 So as I was saying, unneeded wordage is what I'm calling it. Yeah, but that's not very hip, is it? No. No. That's not hip. Slave speak. Slave speak, that's pretty good. Well, hold on a second then. Writing that down. Yeah, that's a good one. I have an idea. Why don't we... So basically, essentially, I think there's a third one in that group. Basically, you should have a talk show guy named Jim Easton in the Bay Area who was, had a, just hated basically to such an extreme that he would occasionally go on long rants about it. Hey, good news, SlaveSpeak.com is now ours. Good. Yeah. Registered. Done.

2:15:55 Good news, that may be worth it. Some of these I don't think we can use here. I mean, if you go deep enough into it, you can probably eliminate anyone being able to communicate at all. I did run into something the other day, though. I also have a medley coming up for the next show of amazing. But that's still completely out of control, people saying that, especially there's this local show here that reviews restaurants, and everybody, they can't stop saying amazing when they describe the food. Oh, that chicken was amazing. Oh, that dumpling was amazing. Oh, that wine was amazing. Oh, the service was amazing. There's other words in the dictionary.

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Birthday Shout-outs and Ham Radio Call Signs

The hosts perform a series of birthday shout-outs for listeners, including Stephen Olko, Sir Luke of London, and Carlos Pesina. They acknowledge donations from various "Hams" (amateur radio operators), using traditional sign-offs like "73s" and referencing call signs. The segment highlights the community aspect of the show's "Value-for-Value" model.

stephen olko· luke of london· carlos pesina· ham radio· 73s· donations

2:16:35 No! I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Well, we do have some people to thank for show 774. That's how jingles work, people. And we begin with Katie Pasareti, who actually sent a note and she's a check and she's getting she's giving these to her boyfriend husband his boyfriend husband I can't tell. Husband. Her husband's birthday he listens regularly as a night of the no agenda roundtable so it's sir you might as well change the birthday call out to Sir Stephen Olker. Can you please give him a shout out on the air his name is oh well who the hell sir

2:17:35 Let me see this. I may have the wrong note. What do you look I've been looking at Katie? I'm I'm looking at the cards. She's a wrong note So no from last week. Oh, okay. Here's the note. I'm looking for here John and aid Adam Please credit this donation towards my boyfriend Stephen Oakers good I got him prematurely married. Quest for knighthood. Okay, this goes toward knighthood. I am making it an annual tradition to donate to the best podcast in the universe in honor of his birthday. Please give him a birthday shout out. He's 38. We have it on the list. We both love the show. She says she's 38 because on the spreadsheet it says 39. Eric wrote it down wrong. 38.

2:18:22 We both love the show and frequently talk about your stories and jingles. Oh, thank you. It says, with a couple who discusses media and deconstruction together stays together. Congrats on the eighth anniversary. Yeah, a couple who discusses no agenda together stays together. Anyway, that's Katie. Judy Schwartz in Bern, Texas. Bernie. Bernie. I said Bernie. Dame Judy, I believe. Dame Judy from Bernie one. Oh, yeah, she sent me a picture. Yeah. Yeah nice God Sean Zins Meister in San Francisco

2:19:05 He has a, let me read this, I just feel like reading something. Listen to the show, it says, number one, sorry to hear that. It's been fun to watch the program evolve. Sometimes it feels like the world is falling apart and hearing your podcast in my ears twice a week for the past few years always brings me great comfort. That's what we do. That's what we try to do. Yes, because we... You both have become my wife. I don't know about that. Oh, you both have become my wife and my only healthy source of news. Well, that's absolutely true Dennis Sturckow in Seaside Park, New Jersey $100 anonymous $98 Paul Garrett Gerdau Gerdau in New South Wales, Australia 88 88 Kf5 SLN idiots

2:19:56 Ditto. Colin Peterson in Bellingham, Washington, $79. Sir Keith Edwards in Gilbert, Arizona, 777. Brian Sodorowicz in Hamburg, New York, 7424. Sir Brian KC9YJM Green of Ham, 73s. Yep, 73s. Keto Fox 5, Sugar Lemon November. William Branick in Calgary, Alberta 6911. Marcin Brzezinski, I think so, in Didcot 6789 UK.

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Sir Tony Jedi Knight and the "Lewd" Jingle Request

Anthony Garlanger is knighted as "Sir Tony, Jedi Knight of the Coders" after reaching the required donation threshold. He submits a request for a "lewd" combination of jingles involving Whoopi Goldberg, which the hosts promise to play later. The segment also includes a coded message for "Fat Pete" and a list of $50 donors from across the globe.

tony garlanger· jedi knight· knighthood· fat pete· miami· atlanta

2:20:37 He's got a birthdory. George William Brannick's got a birthday. Anthony Garlinger in Downers Grove, Illinois. There's a lot of dead cattle there apparently. Now he's gonna be a knight today? What's happening here? Yeah, he's got his counting. He's a knight today. And he's probably, what is he, 186? He says, hi all guardians of reality. Thank you for your courage while I was doing my finances this morning. I realized I was a mere 59, 68 away from my first knighthood. I'd like to be known as Sir Tony Jedi Knight of the Coders if possible. I don't think it's taken so I would like some short sale buying karma. Also if you're feeling generous to a new knight I think I came up with the most lewd combination of jingles below. Okay well we'll put him at the end of something. Maybe put him at the end of the show. Yeah, but it has something to do with Whoopi.

2:21:27 I'll put that up. I don't know what he's talking about. Somebody doesn't like Jeb Bush. 5510 Maxwell Roberts in Crown Point, Indiana 5510 Sir Kevin Payne in Chantilly, Virginia 5432 Philip Veenstra in Chatham, Illinois 5280 Zachary Gilbreck in Cordova, Tennessee 5280

2:22:07 Sir Charles, these are all mile-high guys will be listed eventually. Yeah, sir Charles Walters in Schaumburg, Illinois 5280 Edgar Brock in Grass Valley, California 51 first-time donor. Thank you very much first-time donor Jay and there's a lot of people that need to be first-time donors. I can assure you James Deering in Spring Texas 51 50 has a coded message. Please tell Tony that fat Pete has found him This concludes our coded message Somebody's gonna knock on the door one of these days. James Deering in Spring, Texas. That's 5150 and the following folks are all $50 donors and ordered Patrick Gossick in Goodyear, Arizona, Simon Horn in Manly, Queensland, Australia.

2:23:00 Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas. Patrick Thomas in Petworth, West Sussex, UK. Chris Sluinski, Sir Chris, I believe, in Sherwood Park, Alberta. John Haller in Missoula, Montana. Jennifer Hedrick in Harvard, Illinois. And she's got a birthday of something coming up. Brandon Savoie, parts unknown, 50. Mike Westerfield, I don't know where he's from somewhere, keeps coming in blank. Patricia Worthington, who I believe is a dame in Miami, Florida. Kyle Meyer in, I don't know, I'm not sure.

2:23:36 in Atlanta, Georgia, and finally Kyle Meyer in Atlanta, Georgia. That's the end of it. So I want to thank all these people for contributing and also the people that came in with lesser amounts of money, which many wanted to become anonymous and some people just subscribe at a low but steady rate, which counts. Big yes, thank you all and see if I want to do some f cancer karma and a jobs karma special karma I got a tweet from Maynard in Australia says could you please give some quick karma to sir Gavin surveillance? That is surveillance of Melbourne. He has pacemaker surgery on Tuesday. Oh Yeah, yeah, well definitely we'll give you some karma and the other karma is requested

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Knighthood Ceremony for Anthony Garlanger

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conduct the formal knighthood ceremony for Anthony Garlanger. They instruct him on how to claim his "No Agenda Ring" and encourage him to share the news on social media. The hosts also congratulate Sir Matt Greensmith on becoming the Baron of Melbourne, reinforcing the show's unique listener-funded hierarchy.

anthony garlanger· knighthood· no agenda rings· deconstruction· melbourne· australia

2:24:17 Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. And remember we have another show on Thursday. Please think of us at... It's your birthday, birthday. On to our agenda. Katie Pasarevy says happy birthday to boyfriend Stephen Olko turning 38, turned 38 yesterday. Sir Luke of London, 33 today. Jennifer Hendricks says happy birthday to Carlos Pesina celebrating on the 15th. William Brannick will be 46 on November 26th. And Jason Time celebrates tomorrow

2:24:57 We are all very happy and wish you happy birthday for the best podcast in the universe And then we have Matt sir Matt Greensmith he becomes the Baron of Melbourne, Australia Congratulations sir Matt and we have one nighting to do today Anthony Garlinger if you could please whoa careful there you go just stand up on the podium John your sword Yeah, that was a shorty You have the long sword? I'm sorry, I got that's what I missed. There you go. All right, Anthony Garlanger, thank you so much for your contribution to the best podcast in the universe. The deconstruction may continue. We are hereby very proud to pronunciate the Tony Jedi Knight

2:25:41 And you can head over to noagendination.com slash rings and give Eric the show all your details and we'll get the ring out to you as soon as possible. Please remember to tweet it. It's always fun to see when people have joined the round table. I guess Marfa is one of those towns, you find these all over the south mostly, like Alabama, Mississippi, Missouri, less Missouri. Which has like this old fashioned downtown with usually parallel parking and like these abandoned brick buildings that are just gorgeous. Yeah, yeah.

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Hovercraft Telescopes and the Saturday Night Debate

Adam Curry describes the "hovercraft" mechanism used to rotate the massive 10-meter telescope at the McDonald Observatory. The discussion then shifts back to the Democratic primary debate on CBS, which suffered from low ratings due to its Saturday night time slot. The hosts suggest the timing was a deliberate attempt to minimize viewership for the "three duds" on stage.

hobby-eberly telescope· hovercraft· democratic debate· cbs· ratings· marfa

2:26:37 If you if you really wanted to build something beautiful, although it's expensive here. It's very expensive gas is like $3.50 a gallon. You know that's making you think you're on an island or something. It's a jib. Yeah, yeah. Everybody knows everybody. It's kind of cool. It's alright. I'm a little bummed we didn't get to see any stars. Yeah, I would be totally bummed, especially sitting with that telescope around, although it's not direct look eyepiece. You know when the 10 meter telescope, when it turns, they have, it's like a hovercraft. These rubber rings inflate. Yeah, you posted a little movie on that. Yeah, yeah. Very, very, I thought, no I didn't want to go onto Twitter and say this, but I thought that was a crappy film.

2:27:24 It was, it was too short. Yeah. And you didn't show any of the mechanism above, you just showed this thing. Who says I don't have that? Who says it wasn't a tease? Who says I don't have that video? Well, I would like to see that better clip then. Okay. I mean what I got was It was a thing moving very slowly and you got a little thing moving. It's just like uninformative and then you have Tina over there going, oh and you're going, woo And that was it. Yeah That's in fact, I'm sad. I didn't have my my toys with me. I wanted to go. Oh, it's turning My gosh, look at that juice yeah, yeah, we're great. Oh, man All right, you want to talk about the debate briefly? Yeah sure television catastrophe

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Bernie Sanders on Climate Change and Terrorism

During the Democratic debate, Bernie Sanders reiterates his claim that climate change is the greatest threat to national security, linking it directly to the rise of terrorism through resource scarcity. The hosts trace this narrative back to New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman and suggest that Sanders is merely repeating talking points provided by the CIA.

bernie sanders· climate change· terrorism· thomas friedman· cia· drought

2:28:15 It was bad. It was a bad television show. Oh, did we get... I thought it was... I didn't like... I like John Dickerson. I think that guy's great. Of course, he follows... Oh, okay. What were the overnight ratings? Let me see. Overnight... Who's gonna watch it? It's on Saturday. I'm always interested. Right in the middle of the football games, the good NBA games. I mean, come on. Do you wanna... They didn't want anyone to watch it. Well, headline, TV rating Saturday. Democratic debate is the smallest of the primaries so far. Yes, hello. Let's see, does it have a... Let's see, college football season's wrapping up. We got some fantastic games that any fan would want to watch. And then we have some unbelievable NBA games with great endings, very exciting. And now they've put the debate in. Five share, five share, bad, bad, bad, bad. Yeah, no, and with the three duds. But still seven million. Which just glares at everybody. But still seven million.

2:29:11 Bernie, you seven million diehards for Hillary. Yeah. Bernie's just, oh, global warming is more important. You know, it's causing all this. I happen to have that clip. Let's listen to play it. Yeah, it was kind of fun. Senator Sanders. You said you want to rid the planet of Isis in the previous debate You said the greatest threat to national security was climate change. Do you still believe that? Absolutely. In fact climate change is directly related to the growth of terrorism If we do not get our act together and listen to what the scientists say, you're gonna see countries all over the world This is what the CIA says. No, well Bernie's all in with the CIA. Yeah, CIA says it must be true. They're gonna be struggling over limited amounts of water, limited amounts of land to grow their crops. And you're gonna see all kinds of international conflict. But of course, international terrorism is a major issue that we have got to address today. Wasn't it... Who was the guy, the New York Times writer, he was the one who really started this.

2:30:07 I think it was when he interviewed President Obama about the Syrian civil war started because of climate change. It was that whole long series that ran for 13 episodes. What was that guy? Yeah, come on. It was David Brooks? Is he write for the Times now? No, it's a different guy. It was a different guy. No, not David Brooks. It was Thomas Friedman. Thank you very much. Oh, Friedman. He's a stooge for the CIA. Well, then that's why he said it because we know Bernie Sanders says the CIA says this. Let me see. Do I have it? I wish I had I thought I had that somewhere. Hmm. Well, I had a clip from which isn't about the Trump came out. I guess that's all we just oh my God, you know, we we could listen to the nine minutes of Trump and just comment on the whole nine minutes. Well, he did a like an hour. Yeah, but the nine minutes was on Ben Carson.

CHAPTER 55 / 62 Discussion

Donald Trump's "Vile" Attack on Ben Carson

Media commentators on the PBS NewsHour, including David Brooks, react with horror to Donald Trump's 95-minute speech in Iowa where he compared Ben Carson's "pathological" temper to a disease. Trump is described as "vile," "vulgar," and "morally deformed" by the pundits. The hosts find Trump's performance highly entertaining and critique the commentators for their inability to understand his appeal.

donald trump· ben carson· david brooks· pbs newshour· pathological· iowa

2:31:04 The nine minutes on Ben, I thought it was fantastic. I just sat here laughing. I couldn't get enough of it. He has spotted Ben Carson and I'm not in disagreement as something of a phony. Right. Not as his neurosurgeon job or whatever. I don't even know if, you know, I don't never looked into that. I don't care. But his stories and all the other bull crap, it's bull crap. And I think Trump is sick of it. And meanwhile, of course, everyone's all up in arms because Trump is annoying and he he's he's condemning, especially the Republicans. Oh, it was the only our only black guy. Whatever you do, don't say anything bad about him. So racist.

2:31:41 So, we had Shields and Brooks, David Brooks is usually on, but they had this other guy, Gerson, or Gurin, or whatever, Gerson, he's another New Yorker, supposedly a Republican. Now, this is on the NewsHour. And so, you have these two guys bitching about Trump, both of them, the Republican and the Democrat. They're just complaining bitterly, they don't get it. And they're just completely baffled. Now, I want you to listen to this and think about a couple of things these guys are doing. Both of them are saying they can't analyze that, they don't get it, they don't know what Trump's up to, it's horrible, we think it's sick. Trump's a creep. They go on and on. And I'm especially concerned about that. I can't explain it. If you can't explain it, why are you on the news hour as two commentators who are supposed to explain this stuff?

2:32:29 I don't know, sort of presidential in quotes that he didn't go after anybody, everyone was elegant, the questioners were elegant, it was an elegant evening to this person who really savaged, I mean and basically accused Ben Carson of being a psychopath. Apological I guess, excuse me. What do you make of it? Well, there are a lot of problems with our presidential nomination process, but it does over time reveal candidates. Reveals them under pressure. And this was very revealing. I think that people have a democratic duty to watch what took place in those 95 minutes as much of it as you can stomach. Stomach? It was the best thing I've ever seen in my life.

2:33:15 That was entertaining what he did. It was incredibly entertaining. It made me think about a couple things, but entertaining, top-notch. Trump was vile and vulgar. Vile and vulgar. Vicious and morally deformed. Morally deformed. It's unbelievable this guy. I like these terms. They're great. I'm morally deformed five minutes back off as much of it as you can as you can stomach you know Trump was vile and vulgar and vicious and morally deformed this was a unbelievable performance and You know, I think conservatives are just have to have a tough time defending this if this isn't the line that

CHAPTER 56 / 62 Discussion

Trump's Critique of Evangelical Redemption Narratives

The hosts analyze Donald Trump's strategic attack on Ben Carson's religious conversion story. Trump questioned the validity of Carson's "redemption" narrative, which pundits claim is a central tenet of evangelical belief in Iowa. The discussion focuses on whether Trump's "religious illiteracy" will hurt him with voters or if his bluntness will continue to disrupt the traditional political playbook.

donald trump· ben carson· evangelicals· iowa· redemption· conversion

2:34:01 There's no line. This was really the worst type of politics. And we'll see what the effect is. He has jumped the shark so many times and avoided the consequences. But this really struck me as something different. Is it worth even speculating about why? Or is there just no way to know why he would do that? I don't pretend to know. I really don't. I mean, it appears that Ben Carson bothers him. And the fact that Ben Carson is ahead of him in certain polls. The two are leading in the polls. The irony is, my takeaway from Trump, is he's still mad at mainstream media.

2:34:44 That's what he keeps coming back to. Yes, and this is a good example of why. As to why. Because what he's saying is, how can it be that this is what the media does with Ben Carson? How can he be number... He's also calling the polls into question, which is dodgy for him because he relies on them when he's number one. But he knows they're bullcrap. And for all I know, he's got his Goomba guys, you know, rushing into every state where there's a poll and answering the phone. It's been done before. I think Ben Carson is ahead in Iowa and at least in the Des Moines Register poll, which is sort of the gold standard. And I think that's part of Donald Trump's introduction of himself every time on leading in all the polls. And I don't know if he's bothered by that or just what it is. And Trump's biggest strategic failure in this speech, he actually attacked Carson's religious

2:35:41 What did Trump say? He said he went into the bathroom and came out all religious? Yes! John, I'm considering just listening to those nine minutes of just going over with you because it's Crazy. That is a central tenet of evangelical belief. The possibility of redemption and conversion. I once was blind and now I see. By attacking that in a very religious state, Iowa, I can't imagine what reason there could be. This was a religious illiteracy. It also really showed a hostility towards the evangelical tradition. I can't explain that at all.

CHAPTER 57 / 62 Discussion

Qatar's Investment in French Media and Terrorism

John C. Dvorak highlights the connection between the Lagardère Group, a major French media empire, and its largest investor, Qatar. He notes that Qatar is a significant supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood and various groups labeled as terrorists. The hosts discuss how these financial ties might influence media coverage of events like the Paris attacks and international soccer.

qatar· lagardère group· arnaud lagardère· muslim brotherhood· terrorism· soccer

2:36:25 See, if you can't explain it, get off the stage! The L'Agerdere Group is one of France's media empires owned by Arnaud L'Agerdere, worth 2.5 billion. Largest partner slash investor in the L'Agerdere Group is Qatar. Yeah. That's interesting. And Qatar's one of the biggest supporters of... Terrorism. Terrorism. The Muslim Brotherhood. Yeah, terrorism. These guys are all about terrorism.

2:37:20 Yeah, interesting uh-huh and soccer. Yes sucker. Yeah, you have soccer I did some foreigners didn't mean it didn't really mean to interrupt you, but no that's okay. I was done I just said this guy going on about I don't get it then if you don't get it ghosts someplace else But they're just and I think you know Trump is By the way, I don't care. The New York Times, I don't know any religious people at the New York Times. And this guy has got to be among them, just either a religious or just atheist, one of the two. Or they don't care, they're agnostic, something like that. To be lecturing people about how evangelicals think and what they would put up with and not put up with is beyond me. You know, it's beyond me.

CHAPTER 58 / 62 Discussion

Hillary Clinton's Marine Corps Recruitment Claim

Hillary Clinton's claim that she tried to join the Marine Corps in 1975 is met with skepticism and "two Pinocchios" from fact-checkers. DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz defends Clinton on MSNBC, arguing that not every life experience needs to be "verifiable." The hosts mock the idea of Clinton, a known anti-war activist at the time, seeking to enlist in the Marines.

hillary clinton· marine corps· debbie wasserman schultz· andrea mitchell· vietnam war· 1975

2:38:10 Terrible segment of that news hour. I was very well you've been distressed a lot of it rid of that guy There's some dread distressing things going on. I saw a funny a funny clip I think was Andrea Mitchell, and she was something about Hillary and that there's some fact check You know while we're looking at everyone's record, and how they lie about it Hillary apparently somewhere said Yeah, I applied for the Marines in 75. What? But yeah, I guess I applied for the Marines. She was a hippie protester. Yeah, I applied for the Marines in 75, but you know, I was too old. I was 26 at the time. And so, but she said that she went to the recruiting station. Now this of course turns out to be not true. And this... Would go to the recruiting station to plant a bomb. Okay.

2:39:06 Was she doing that in those days was she part of the weather on the ground part of that mentality? She was part of that radical. You know super weather underground style of Protester, I think maybe she did well so she said this in an interview and then Andrea Mitchell Calls this out to Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and I love Debbie Wasserman Schultz whenever she's mad and She's the, yeah, she is the worst. And then her eyes go all fruity and her head swells up and she gets all mad. To listen to it is also fun. Those comments are being mocked by Republicans today and they're getting two Pinocchios from Washington Post fact checker Glenn Kessler. She had worked for both George McGovern and Jeanne McCarthy. She was actively against the war in Vietnam. Why on earth would she go to a Marine recruiter in 1975?

2:39:59 It doesn't make sense. With all due respect, Andrea, why on earth are we talking about this? Because she brought it up in New Hampshire the other day. If she hadn't brought it up, it would not be an issue in this campaign. I think the point is just did this happen? You have a presidential candidate, the frontrunner in the Democratic Party, saying something happened, which is quite strikingly, um, you know, dissonant to people who knew her back then. I just find it really unreasonable, Andrea, and I mean, do we need every single experience in a person's life to be written in stone and blood and very verifiable? Yeah. Things that happen to people all across America that, uh, that, that can't be verified. And I know your next question is going to be about Ben Carson. And I think quite frankly, the same goes for stories about Ben Carson.

2:40:48 Sure. Can you start play that clip again? The Debbie Wasserman Schultz clip? Yeah. I'll tell you when to stop. She had a phrase in there. Oh, OK. Those comments are being mocked by Republicans today and they're getting two Pinocchios from Washington Post fact checker Glenn Kessler. She had worked for both George McGovern, you know, and Gene McCarthy. She was actively against the war in Vietnam. Why on earth would she go to a Marine recruiter in 1975? It doesn't make sense. With all due respect and your wine or anything with all due respect yeah for the list of course of course of course That's right everybody facts facts are all that matter She's a douche. I love her washerman's Schultz is a total I

2:41:39 I got a couple of quickies that I'd like to get out of the way. This happened and I'm waiting for some feedback from our military contacts. Secretary of Defense Ash Carter announcing he's fired his top military aide, Lieutenant General Ron Lewis over allegations of misconduct. While Carter won't say what the allegations against the Lieutenant General are, he has turned the matter over to the Inspector General for investigation. I can't wait to find out. Can't wait to find out what hookers. It's got to be something like that mm-hmm highly decorated You know fast track guy guys been on a fast track to the top and now BAM. Well. He's a fast track to oblivion. Yeah What's his name who's the editor of the New York Times? I don't know well he was on the Charlie Rose show and

CHAPTER 59 / 62 Discussion

Firing of Ron Lewis and the "Back Massage" Code

Secretary of Defense Ash Carter fires his top military aide, Lieutenant General Ron Lewis, over unspecified allegations of misconduct. In a separate media critique, the hosts mock the editor of the New York Times for saying he would have given Edward Snowden a "back massage," which they interpret as a "groupie code" for more intimate favors.

ash carter· ron lewis· misconduct· edward snowden· charlie rose· back massage

2:40:48 Sure. Can you start play that clip again? The Debbie Wasserman Schultz clip? Yeah. I'll tell you when to stop. She had a phrase in there. Oh, OK. Those comments are being mocked by Republicans today and they're getting two Pinocchios from Washington Post fact checker Glenn Kessler. She had worked for both George McGovern, you know, and Gene McCarthy. She was actively against the war in Vietnam. Why on earth would she go to a Marine recruiter in 1975? It doesn't make sense. With all due respect and your wine or anything with all due respect yeah for the list of course of course of course That's right everybody facts facts are all that matter She's a douche. I love her washerman's Schultz is a total I

2:41:39 I got a couple of quickies that I'd like to get out of the way. This happened and I'm waiting for some feedback from our military contacts. Secretary of Defense Ash Carter announcing he's fired his top military aide, Lieutenant General Ron Lewis over allegations of misconduct. While Carter won't say what the allegations against the Lieutenant General are, he has turned the matter over to the Inspector General for investigation. I can't wait to find out. Can't wait to find out what hookers. It's got to be something like that mm-hmm highly decorated You know fast track guy guys been on a fast track to the top and now BAM. Well. He's a fast track to oblivion. Yeah What's his name who's the editor of the New York Times? I don't know well he was on the Charlie Rose show and

2:42:29 Talk about douchebags. Suppose, suppose, suppose. Suppose, suppose, suppose. Hey, that should be on the list. I don't think so. But it might, I'll put it on there as a candidate. But you have to do a three, suppose, suppose, suppose, suppose. Suppose, suppose, suppose. Let's try it again. Here we go. Suppose, suppose, suppose. Edward Stoughton. I would have met him anywhere. If he said, I'm in China. I would have given him a back massage. I would have done whatever he wanted. Because? Because I think Edward Snowden's revelations were really important to an international debate. And I wish they had been in the New York Times first. Yeah. But you know, when I hear you talk, Mr. Editor, I wouldn't go to you either. You sound like a douche.

2:43:28 I would have given him a back rub, which is code for blowjob. It is. I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh, you never been to a rock concert? I've been to a rock concert. I saw Jimi Hendrix six times. How many times did you see Jimi Hendrix? Well, excuse me while I kiss this guy. Groupies I'm telling you the story groupies always start off by saying oh, can I give you a back massage or a shoulder massage? That's how it starts. That's the code. It's the groupie code Okay, I never was in a band Well that's strange because man that harmonica I'm yeah, well as they throw tall man me Jethro Tull is on the road. I'm sure you can pick up some work. I

CHAPTER 60 / 62 Discussion

Einstein 3A and AT&T's $3 Billion Cybersecurity Contract

AT&T wins a $3 billion government contract for "Einstein 3A," an enhanced cybersecurity service for .gov websites. The hosts express outrage that the multi-billion dollar project appears to consist of basic email filtering and "sinkholing" features that are already available in open-source software. They characterize the contract as a massive waste of taxpayer money for "installing Norton" on government servers.

einstein 3a· at&t· cybersecurity· email filtering· phishing· sinkholing

2:44:20 Yeah, yeah, and have some some geriatric groupies. Should I take my teeth out? Oh man. All right, what else you got anything? I'm done. Um, I thought I thought I had one tech news thing, but I don't know. Where was it? I get this look here's a small clip of a dead you know that woman might chew whatever name is who's that? From Myanmar from me and Barman yeah They've just run this little ditty off, just as part of their story. And I listened to it and I said, this doesn't sound good or right. Under Myanmar's constitution, Suu Kyi is barred from becoming president. But she has said whoever holds that office will be a figurehead while she will wield actual power. What? She boss-tweed? I don't know what that's about.

2:45:21 I'm gonna have to talk to our economic hitman because he wants to move there. He thinks it's the greatest country in the world. Yeah, if it's not run by the military. Doesn't sound like... Einstein 3, we've been hearing about this huge cyber budget that is supposed to protect our government systems and a big part of this, I think this is a three billion dollar contract is called Einstein, and this is the third version, and for some reason there's an A in alpha. So Einstein 3A. And AT&T has won the bid. And so I'm looking at this, and they're talking about countermeasures to help protect government data and .gov websites.

2:46:14 And they...and I'm reading this on a government IT, you know, dude named Ben website. And they link to Chris Smith, vice president for technologies at AT&T Government Solutions, and a blog post he wrote. You know, so this is a big, big contract. And what does it consist of? Just sending money directly to AT&T. Well, yes. Here it is. And so he's talking about the key cyber defense Einstein 3a our enhanced cybersecurity services contain an email filtering feature That's John. This is crazy that scans inbound emails and attachments and and compares the data against all known threats

2:47:03 It helps defend against advanced persistent threats, continuous attacks, usually by the same source, aimed at compromising computing systems and or stealing information. It also includes a domain name sinkholing feature that blocks attempts to divert users' computers to unsafe websites, i.e. phishing. So these guys are getting three billion dollars for installing Norton? Yeah, to write a copy of Free Avast. Yeah, or Amavis D on a server? This is infuriating. Outrageous. Infuriating. This is how stupid the Congress is. Like our enhanced cybersecurity services, the IPSS platform, which stands for Intrusion Prevention Security Services,

2:47:47 Yeah, oh my god detects VG free yeah protects potential email threats and blocks attempts to divert users computers to unsafe websites We expect our mark per cal over here at the same time we expect to have our initial IPS countermeasures ready this year to help protect government data and dot-gov websites against cyber attacks It's going to take them that long to come up with something. We've got our blacklist. There's, you know, the MFSD uses all kinds of filtering and word techniques to figure out what's... I mean, this is well-solved and open source. It was a long time ago. Three billion dollars. And there's no mention of encryption, which is the real thing they need to get on board with. Yeah. No, there's no mention of that.

CHAPTER 61 / 62 Discussion

Executive Order on Syrian Humanitarian Assistance

President Obama issues an executive order waiving certain prohibitions to allow the Department of Defense to distribute humanitarian assistance in Syria. The hosts struggle with the "legalese" of the order but conclude it is a mechanism to free up funds for the escalating military and refugee crisis. They predict this is a precursor to further US involvement in the region.

barack obama· executive order· syria· humanitarian aid· department of defense· legalese

2:48:38 I was just blown away by this. Yeah, we're in the wrong game. What a waste. What a waste. Einstein 3A. It's so insulting, you know? It really is. I can't believe it sometimes. What are you gonna do? Yeah. Was there anything else that I had? I think that may be it. We're gonna have a lot of work for Thursday, that's for sure. Oh yeah, the president had an executive order. which I tried to figure it out before the show but there's just no way. Distribution of Defartment Department of Defense funded humanitarian assistance in Syria

2:49:22 By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution of the laws of the United States, including and that comes Section 224AB, etc., of Title 10, I determined that this section would impede the distribution of urgently needed humanitarian assistance in Syria to alleviate the current refugee crisis, as well as other United States government objectives in the Middle East for stability and humanitarian relief. Waive the prohibition in this other section for humanitarian reasons and to the extent necessary to allow the Department of Defense defense Not human services and rescue to carry out the purposes of section 2561 so they're freeing up funds And I it was if you look at these sections in the code. It's my I have it was too much for me I couldn't do it. It's too much just legalese and

2:50:17 I'm pretty sure there's a scam. Well. I'm pretty sure that they're getting funds ready for whatever the whatever we're gonna do yeah Yeah, kick everybody's ass well Something's happening It's our go-to everybody something's up for sure all right. We should probably put a caliphate song in the ending here Okay, I'll put a caliphate in what else do we need? This one's I wanted you to use last time One of your ISOs. Let me see. Keep going you dummies is good. Okay, put that in. Keep going. And that means something which is a I got to start using it as a clip. And that means something? Yeah. And that means something. Okay. Got it. Okay. Yeah, good little list there. Good little list.

CHAPTER 62 / 62 Discussion

"Fact of the Matter" Jingle Medley and Sign-off

The episode concludes with a lengthy jingle medley featuring various public figures and the hosts repeatedly saying "the fact of the matter." Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off from Marfa, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley, respectively, promising to return for the next broadcast on Thursday. The "Slave Speak" theme is reinforced through the repetitive use of the overused phrase.

fact of the matter· jingle· marfa· texas· no agenda· episode 774· sign-off

2:51:21 Okay, and the fact of the matter... Keep going, you dummies... Caliphate... And the end of the day, okay, great. There'll be plenty to do, for sure. Hopefully an uneventful return to the Crackpot condo, so we'll be back there Thursday. Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Coming to you from Hipster Central! Of the Drone Star State, Marfa, Texas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where freckles are everywhere. Maybe we'll talk about that next time. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda. And that means something.

2:52:25 You know, it's all about the flow of money. The fact of the matter is there are plays that are designed to elicit past interference and this is to me a form of entrapment. The fact of the matter is... That's not the US. Good point. The fact of the matter is this Believe me if you got people out there that are on this autism thing of the vaccine thing They are gonna shift gears move their sights over and this is big. This is huge The fact of the matter is most people actually believe that someone else already sent it to me And then you wind up not knowing fucking shit But the fact of the matter is even if you put them in it would be a small minority Yeah, the fact of the matter is

2:53:10 They've got homegrown terrorists. The fact of the matter is he lived to be 25. I like that theory. It's not a theory, it's the fact of the matter is. You're right, it's the fact of the matter. The fact of the matter is. But the fact of the matter is if you're the press secretary, it's your job to read that book immediately. Yes. The fact of the matter is. True. But listen, but the fact of the matter is there's no way that she could have been a member for so long and intelligence agencies didn't know this and the Republican Party had to know it. The fact of the matter is... The fact of the matter. Yeah, oops, second one. They have a lot of nice stuff in there, but the fact of the matter is it's a very sterile environment. Well, the fact of the matter is...

2:53:56 I'm just saying, I do believe. I got mine on you. Okay, but the fact of the matter is it paces the show well. Not just the fact of the matter, that is a fact. It's a fact of the bladder. It's a... If you say... That's what you can do. The fact of the bladder is... It's a fact of the bladder. That's good. It has a nice sound to it. I like it. We should keep the fact of the bladder. It's as good as Bogative. But the fact of the matter is that the... The fact of the matter is we've made the show... Easy does it on the fact of the matter. But the fact of the matter is there are interiors on many of these properties and I think people should start going down to City Hall or... The fact of the matter is we have... And the fact of the matter is we do put an effort into this presentation but the fact of the matter is we don't have enough listeners. No.

2:54:45 You are correct in your calculation. It's the fact of the matter. It's the fact of the matter. It's the fact of the matter. Oh, yeah. It's the fact of the matter. It's the fact of the matter. It's the fact of the matter. Oh, yeah. They say keep going. I think I'm gonna crack my pants. And wash your hands after touching any raw meat. Adios, mofo. The best podcast in the universe! Dvorak.org slash N-A.