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00:00 So this was the scam of the scams. I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm keeping tabs on the weather for historical sakes, it's foggy. I'm John C. Dvorak. No, no, no. The president told us so himself. We want to solve something like climate change, which was one of my highest priorities. Highest priorities. Highest priorities. What happened to protecting the American people? I thought that was the highest priority. That's what he keeps saying. Then I've got to be able to get into places like Malaysia and say to them, hey, hey dudes, this is in your interest. What leverage do I have to get them to stop deforestation? Well, part of the leverage is if I'm in a trade relationship with them,

01:14 That allows me to raise standards. Now, they have to start thinking about how quick they're chopping down their forests and what kinds of standards they need to apply to the environmental conservation. Yeah, so this is for the... You know, I'm gonna have to tell you this. I'm not gonna give it to you, but that is clip of the day. But you're not giving it to me? No, it's because it's too early in the show. You can't take clip of the day right off the top. That is the president explaining why we need the TPP. Why he's fast-tracked. Yeah, exactly. Fast-tracked because of global warming. But what I like is he says, I can't tell them what to do. It's kind of jumping the shark, you know. You can't tell them what to do? Yeah, I can't tell. I can't set standards for everybody, for the world to listen to America. So I need this. I need this. Of course, we all know the true solution is nuclear energy and I had

02:10 a meeting on Monday here in Boston. I forgot to put it forward to this today. I want to just mention, though, I'm going to reiterate a clip that we didn't play. One of the guys, one of the government guys goes on and on and on about what we have to drop oil altogether. And first he makes the mistake of saying a nuclear power. And then the second time around, he drops nuclear power. And he talks about wind, air, wind, water. And there's a third one. Farts. Sun. Sun. And they said, we got to go to all renewables. And every time anyone says to me, we should go to all renewables for our energy needs, I'm always thinking, well, so I should start burning wood. Right? Is that renewable?

02:56 Come on. Yeah, it grows. It's renewable. Yeah. You chop down a tree, you burn it, you grow another tree, you chop it down, you burn it. But that does result in other things that aren't great. It's renewable. They're not saying that. They're not saying clean or anything. Okay, okay. I hear you. Yeah, go on. Well, I had a meeting with Sir Atomic Hot Rod Adams here in Austin. Yeah. He has this very well-known meeting. Yeah, it was buzz yeah, we had breakfast at Joe's coffee on second And so Rod, of course, has been our...he was a commander on a nuclear submarine, you know, retired now, but career a naval guy. He's taught, you know, he's been in private practice. And now he's pretty much doing his blog, Atomic Insights, and he has a number of different podcasts that he does. And he drove from Virginia, where he lives, to San Antone for the annual American Nuclear Society meeting.

03:59 Which, he was very depressing. Well of course there's no money really anymore for nuclear. Why? It's only, although everybody judges it based on 1950s technology, It's the only solution to global warming. It's completely carbon-free. The new breeder reactors produce no waste. The sun doesn't have to come out? I'm sorry, they... They don't have to blow? I'm sorry, they do produce waste, but they eat their own poop, so it's fantastic. But he said last year there were about 1,500 attendees at the ANS. This year about four or five hundred.

04:41 Yeah, well, once the Chinese get their act together and start building these things left and right, we'll get a clue. And I wanted to point quickly, there's a, he has a great article about Stanford, how their climate scientists there promote 100% renewable, the renewable revolution. And these guys are all, and these guys are all paid by fossil fuel money. But they, of course, do not promote the true renewable. And Stanford will not take anyone who is interested in becoming a professor in nuclear. Only nuclear waste. Oh, really? Yeah. He sent a letter...there's a whole letter that he sent and he got a letter back from the dean. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. A couple of things I learned from Ron. By the way, nuclear is not renewable in any way.

05:31 Well, that's not true. The breeder reactors are the definition that you put...you don't have... John Maass That's just recycling. That's not renewable. Renewable means when you remove it, you can get it back. When you pull uranium out of the ground, it doesn't grow back like oil. David Lieberman Okay. Agreed. Agreed. But I got some updates and some info on stuff that we're interested in. So, for instance, backyard nukes. and how the progress is going. How is it going? Well, not too great. Oh, technology's there, ready to be harvested. Well, I'll tell you what the problem is.

06:10 So there's only one, and of course I'm not a nuclear physicist or scientist, but I'm just paraphrasing what I jotted down. So the kind of reactors we're talking, we're looking at backyard nukes, but really we're talking about a nuclear plant that could be pretty much in the backyard. The whole thing wouldn't be much larger than a couple of you and I if you stuffed this in a box. And that could power 100,000 homes. And this would be one of those breeder reactors. And the problem is that there's a reactor that can already do this. It's the Russian RAS-60. And we do have a fast reactor here in the United States, but we can't do anything with it because the only place you can get the fuel for this is from Russia.

07:03 And guess what? As a part of the sanctions imposed over the Ukrainian conflict, the Department of Energy is foreboding from doing any business or getting anything from Russia. So it's effectively a standstill forever. Well, until they give Snowden back. Yeah, there's that. And then I came up with an idea. I said, you know, can't we take decommissioned subs and you know, just change the turbine, because instead of propelling a, you know, the propeller, put a different turbine on. He said, yeah, you could probably... Why would you have to put a different one? Doesn't that produce electricity to power the boat? Well, the reactor produces steam and then you need a different turbine to generate the type of electricity that could come out of this.

07:54 In the boat, they have a very slow moving, it's only 300 or 400 RPMs that the submarine propeller turns at. So you just need a different turbine. You could submerge it offshore, it would have everything it needs, water for cooling, just everything. And you could probably power 250,000 homes with a decommissioned submarine. Guess what? What? Yeah, no, that's not going to happen. Yeah, no. It's not going to happen. I encourage it. Of course not. Why do all these people that are all... The question that always has to be asked when you run into a environmentalist who is all in on global warming, there are two questions. One, why not nuke? Right. Which they'll always, well, they're going to cite a bunch of crazy stuff. That's exactly how they sound too.

08:44 They can't deal with that. And then the other one is, why cap and trade? Which is the other one that's so obvious, it's such a scam. If you're really that concerned, and you claim to be, just cap! Anyway, it was good seeing Rod, and he drives a Jetta diesel. That's what the new guys drive. Isn't that great? Those little diesels are pretty quick, those European diesels. And it gets 43 miles to the gallon. Yeah, the problem is that because when they came with this low sulfur, it's almost as though it was something screwy about it. They came with this low sulfur standard for diesel fuel, which is fine in itself, but then all of a sudden diesel fuel costs more than premium gas. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's all the taxes that are put on. Should be more taxes. Just not the taxes. The gas is overpriced. Well, you're in a fine mood today, aren't you?

09:38 Well, you keep coming up with these bromides. I have it lined up already. I'll play this as a part of our Agenda 21 opening today. As we previewed Friday, the EPA has announced its intention to regulate aircraft emissions like it does cars, trucks and power plants. Environmentalists say American airplanes are responsible for about 3% of all US greenhouse gas emissions. Conservatives say strict emissions regulations would force airlines to raise ticket prices or add more seats to already cramped planes.

10:14 This is the first step in a lengthy regulatory process. There you go. This is going to suck. Three percent my butt. I'd like to see that proven. Yeah, well, you know it's not...it's gonna turn out differently. Yeah, this is like...so what they're saying is that a plane full of people going from, let's say, 250 people going from San Francisco to New York, creates more emission...this is what they're implying. They're not saying this, but they're implying this. Creates more emissions than those same 250 people driving from San Francisco to New York. That's the implication. There is that implication is built into the rationale. Yes. I don't believe that. No. I think it's just lies. But what this is more indicative of is how certainly this administration has been

11:12 really running things by the new powers or the reasonably new powers that the agencies have to just... Bureaucratic power. ...create whatever regulations they want. Yeah, they're setting a law. Yeah. Well, yeah, or change the law, etc. Exactly. Exactly. I see you have...you watch the TSA security thing on C-SPAN? No. Oh, because I saw you have airport security stuff. I, this is a news story because I've, I've concluded that this entire TSA, well let's play these and I'll give you my conclusion then if you want to. Yes. Let's start with one. Okay.

11:48 The new report found the TSA does not have access to terrorist watch list data that would have flagged 73 airport workers. That includes airline employees, airport vendors and others with access to secure areas of commercial airports in the US. The TSA is responsible for vetting every application for airport security credentials. The report noted the vetting was generally effective but it identified thousands of aviation worker records that appeared incomplete or inaccurate. including those for 75,000 immigrants that did not list a passport number and 87,000 records without a social security number, something by law the TSA cannot require. Why can't they? I have to give my the last four numbers of my social for anything.

12:36 Well, they...this entire...that really baffled me when he said that. So you're hiring...wait, you're hiring somebody. I don't know if you've ever been hired for a job, I believe so. Few. They always ask for your social security number on your employment thing because they've got to give you W-2s, W-4s, they've got to give you something, and they need your social security number so they can also give this data to the government. You think that the report may be wrong or...? I think this is just dropped in as more, well, we need more power. I think this whole thing is a giant scam to get the TSA more money, more power, and also to promote the Patriot Act and some of the other things that are floating out there in limbo. And so let's jack everybody up. I understand that if you do not have a social security number, you can take your payment in iPads.

13:29 I thought it was in Bitcoin. Okay, play social security or air social security. Number two. The report follows last week's revelation that undercover agents posing as passengers were able to sneak mock explosives or banned weapons through security checkpoints 95% of the time. The test found a potential vulnerability with airport body scanners. Now, this was the giveaway. They are piling on, because this is an old report they're reiterating. When they start reiterating the news, in other words, bringing back old stories as part of a new story... This is very important, what you're saying, yes. That means something's up.

14:09 This is a scheme. Something is afoot. And play three, which I titled The Scam. The big question from the new report is how dangerous were these 73 workers? And that section is redacted. Whoa, hold on a second. Okay, that broke up. Hold on, hold on. Let me play it again and see what's going on with this, if something's wrong. No, that was you? No, that was CBS. Oh. We're better than CBS, apparently. Okay, so this was the scam of the scams They said here's the guy holds up a piece of paper and it's got black shit all over it the way they when they redacted And he says how dangerous were these these guys who got through without you know, but there were on the terrorist watch list We don't know because it was all redacted. So they must have been very dangerous. We've got to do something We've got to pass more laws. We need more money. That's what that said to me Well, this leads into a little run but before you lead into anything I do I just want to do a little aside

15:05 The beginning of clip 2 there's a sound effect. Okay. Which is very familiar with me. I've heard it a million times. I can't place it. That thing? That ding ding ding ding? Yeah. I'm gonna listen again. The report follows... The chat room will know. All right. But let's listen one more time. The report follows... I know what that is. I've said it a million times. Chain link fence? No, no, it's something you're dragging, it's like your suitcase dragging along and something boxing. I'm reading the chat room. Bicycle bell? Ice cream vendor? Don't read the dumb ones. Guess what? Some say it's a Vegas, it's the Vegas airport and it's slot machines, which would be familiar to you. Oh, no, no, no.

16:03 No. All right. Onward. Well, so, yes, what you said about when they start to reiterate, bring back old news stories, something is up. And we had something happen earlier today. In fact, it happened on Tuesday. You and I were, happened to be doing something. We were working on a special episode. I'm going to play that first. And then I'm going to do a little rundown so we can really get a good handle on what has been taking place in what we sometimes would call the six-week cycle, but this is a little more transparent than...and it also doesn't involve all terrorists being nabbed by the FBI. During the daily press briefing on Tuesday, there was a bomb threat called in, several bomb threats called in. One to the

16:56 the actual press conference and the room had to be evacuated. So, everyone's sitting there and they're, you know, asking questions with Josh Earnest up on stage. They had to leave. And then, you know, we actually saw a little bit of the dogs running through. It didn't look like a...it was kind of a strange sweep. I mean, if you're gonna, you know, evacuate the press in the West Wing and all you see is dogs running through, I was expecting a robot or something of that nature. But they also evacuated the TSA hearing on Capitol Hill, which was about, you know, this very report. Now, what was interesting is the president was in the White House. However, he was not moved. He was not evacuated. No one else has moved. Josh Earnest went back to his room. He was not told to shelter in place. But the press were moved way down towards the executive building. And this, of course, did raise some questions. We went outside. You say it was to keep us cool, but I don't think it was. We were out there. You were in your office.

17:53 They went to Pebble Beach first and then they moved us further down into the next building on the campus and moved us even further back. It wasn't for coolness, it was because of a fear. So my question is with the proximity to everyone and everything here, the seat of power just feet away and they were not moved. But we had to be pushed all the way back. I'm trying to, there's something not jiving and not mixing. It just seems odd. Well April, for the questions that you have about decisions that were made by the Secret Service, then I would encourage you to contact the Secret Service and they can maybe get you a more specific answer to your question than I'm able to. The Secret Service to break into a briefing, which they don't, if they had to think about it coming in, because I watched them.

18:31 They think about stopping the briefing because of the severity and no one was moved. It's just it doesn't sound like that. Sorry. She's sorry. Well, April, I can help you out. Let us take a look at the month of June 2015. It started off with the of course, we had the expiration of the Patriot Act. President Obama signed the USA Freedom Act into law on June 2nd. But of course, on June 2nd, just before Congress was set to start the debate of the Freedom Act, we had multiple bomb threats against US aircraft. You'll recall this. The five bomb threats, it could have been called in by an ISIS lone wolf. So very convenient then for the president to just sign the Freedom Act in. Two days after the president signed the Freedom Act, we had a massive, massive security breach.

19:22 Which of course was done by China. This was the Office of Personnel Management. Even though the hack occurred in December, this was suddenly, this was the news of... and this is of course... Sorry? So the president, he was with a group of seven in Germany. Well, here's what he said, we have known for a long time there are significant vulnerabilities. These vulnerabilities are going to accelerate as time goes by and we need strong security, cyber security laws, etc. Legislation. An hour after that statement, what did we have? The Syrian government

20:13 Hacking group claim responsibility for hacking the official us army dot mil website Nice coincidence, huh? Yeah, yeah, so we've got another you got another good idea for admin WP I know yeah, let's try army rocks here. Just really try that army rocks were in It was probably more like, could you please type in cp index new dot html index hack dot html to index dot html. Thanks, great, we're good to go. The quote, Monday's attack may have been the first breach of a website directly operated by the US military. It's their recruitment site.

20:58 But of course, you know, we can call back to the cyber caliphate who hacked Twitter and YouTube accounts of CENTCOM, US Central Command. Of course, we have the hacker ISIS. And now we have the Protecting Cyber Networks Act, which is currently in the House, which will be part of the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act. And then, let's see, oh, then all of a sudden we have another bomb threat? I mean, this is a, it's so obvious what is going on. Every single time we need to get something through, move it through, get something placed, you know, set an agenda, we have some, one of these phony baloney attacks, which really mean nothing. They're not even really attacks. No, someone just calls. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

21:52 So, this is all happening under the repealment of the Smith-Mundt Act, which I just like to remind people of from time to time. As a part of the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act, the United States government is now allowed to propagandize its own people, the citizens of the United States. And it's happening, and it's happening to push through legislation constantly. It could also have been to shut this guy up at the TSA hearing. This is a federal air marshal. His name is Robert McLean. And this happened before the bomb threat came in. He's making some form of sense, but the whole thing is... Was he cut off because of the bomb threat? He was not cut off, no. But it happened not long after. That would have been fantastic. Timing was a little off. Just listen to what he has to say. His heart's in the right place, I think. Flight crews and law enforcement officers need the legal authority to deputize and indemnify

22:51 vetted able-bodied passengers to protect themselves and the jet from destruction. We could do this process during our pre-check. There's no reason why an athlete or a military member can't walk deep into the cabin to restrain somebody. During pre-check enrollment, we can ask passengers to volunteer to be these deputy air marshals. I want a badge! I want in! Here's your plastic badge, boy. No, it'll be a patch. It won't be a badge. It'll be a patch. You can wear it anytime you want on any clothes. How cool would that be? excuse me, Deputy Air Marshal. Then you hold up the patch and flap it around.

23:30 And you know some people will laminate it to make it look a little more official. During critical events, PreCheck should be greatly expanded and it should be free of charge. I'm all in the free of charge, but no, let's not expand. This is an elite thing. This is so I can travel freely without hassle. I don't want long lines because everyone's a damn deputy. More people in PreCheck freeze up resources to focus on attackers. I'd like to see TSOs roaming airports with mobile pre-check application kits and soliciting passengers during their delays. Can I interrupt this and ask you a quick question? Sure. We've been doing this for almost eight years. In eight years, and considering there's probably 40,000 flights a day.

24:19 You got to multiply 40,000 times 365 times eight years. How many events happened on airplanes that required this procedure or deputies to save the aircraft? How many can you recall? How many aircraft have dropped from the sky? Well, 40,000 times 360 times eight in the last eight years. Well, none have been dropped from the sky. Multiple answers, multiple answers. We have had, of course, really one instance with the shoe bomber, I'm sorry, the underwear bomber, where the passengers jumped him. Right. Well, they jumped the shoe bomber too earlier. Yes. Although that wasn't domestic. However, we have had tens, maybe even scores of aircraft turn around, make emergency landings for drunk passengers, babies who are crying, you know, people just...

25:09 No, it's useless, obviously. We need to have more faith in human intelligence gathering and the intuition of bold officers. But in order to get more air marshals on the ground, you need to completely secure the flight deck or the cockpit. Now, he has some interesting ideas here, which one of them is super logical. I don't understand why it hasn't happened yet. Where the pilots are in control of the jet. Every flight deck should have a modified shotgun with an emergency lock switch. Shotgun pellets are an ideal since the primary concern is to stop an attacker trying to force the door open. In a highly unlikely miss, shotgun pellets will not harm passengers or the aircraft. No. Ow! My eye! What is that? My eye, I'm blind.

25:53 The group of pilots, I think it'd be, I don't think he says this, but it would be really cool is to have one of those little holes in the door, like in a Brinks armored truck. You can shoot out of the door. Move it around a little bit. Pellets will not harm passengers or the aircraft. The group of pilots who use their own funds to travel to Artesia, New Mexico, spending a week being trained and issued a TSA 40 caliber semi-automatic pistol can miss and kill an innocent passenger in the very back of the cabin with a jacketed bullet. Once again, this is highly unlikely, but it's possible. Armed pilots are not allowed to carry their pistols on international flights due to very restrictive handgun laws in foreign countries.

26:36 But a shotgun modified to stop one or two hijackers trying to break into the cockpit from one foot away Would be an aim for host country to deny and risk another 9-11 style attack. There's your there's your idea John There's the little the little hole the Brinks truck hole one foot away It's an extreme hazard whenever a pilot opens the flight deck door to use the laboratory to get food and drink and amped up an attacker I like amped up attacker I'm amped up man. I'm on my speedball. An amped up attacker can dive inside and destroy the jet. There's a cheap and perfect solution. How many times has that happened in the last eight years? Zero. With 40,000 flights a day times 360 flights. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But listen to the idea. His idea is not bad. An attacker can dive inside and destroy the jet. There's a cheap and perfect solution to this. Secondary barriers.

27:32 10 horizontal cables attached to a vertical pole. A flight attendant can simply stretch across the front of the forward galley and lock in place. And that's, that would replace what I've always thought was a really dumb idea where they, they move the galley cart and they stand behind the car. That is a dumb, that does look stupid. There, the girls are there and it's behind the car. It's like, they're going to, they're looking left, they're looking right. So I think the idea of these wires are good, but he's, but instead of having these steel cables at the front of the plane. Let's put steel cables around every passenger. And that would be- Yeah, just strap you down. This barrier buys the flight crew plenty of time to quickly get the pilot back into the flight deck and lock the door. In order to control unruly passengers,

28:27 Who could be suicidal attackers setting up a ruse? A ruse? A ruse! It's a ruse! Every cabin should be equipped with restraint systems and non-lethal... That's just for the pilots to have fun with the stewardesses. ...tools to restrain unruly passengers or stop murderous attackers. Come here, Alice. Let me restrain you, girl. I think there's a bigger problem they never want to address. Oh, hold on a second. Time to call in the bomb threat. There's one thing they never address in these meetings. I just don't understand it because this is a danger to any airplane. Spontaneous human combustion. I was just talking about that the other day. I'm glad you brought it up because someone was, I was talking about this and I said, you know, John's a believer. Well, only because I've done research on it.

29:17 Do you want to reiterate your research? No, I mean, I could reiterate it, but there's plenty of documented cases where somebody just burns to a pile of ashes, really not doing much damage to the area around them, except this spot they're seated. They tend to be in an overstuffed chair. I've found documentation of this going back to the 1600s. I'm sure there's stuff before that. But you're sitting around it isn't for anyone who this happens to I don't know what you can do about I've never heard anyone stop it in process, and it's usually the legs right the legs no no around around the girth is where the blue flames first start to appear and They kind of shoot out like it was like propane torches kind of Do we have video of this? Well, I'm waiting for the video

30:00 And then the next thing you know you're completely engulfed in flame. I never heard of anybody screaming or in pain, which is kind of... It doesn't usually happen when you're asleep in a barker lounge. It happens when you're asleep. It's happened on a pulpit where a preacher just went up in flames, but it generally happens in an overstuffed chair. Yeah, in a barco lounger. Yeah, you're sitting in a barco lounger. It's gotta be over... And then you just catch on fire and you're just a pile of ash at the lounge chair is singed. It's a way to go. But if this happens on an airplane, I don't know, who knows what kind of panic. Oh yes, but it's never happened on an airplane as far as I know. As far as you know. As far as I know, yes, indeed.

30:49 Most emailed response to the previous program. Did you receive a lot of emails about one particular topic? No. Texture of food? Oh, I didn't get that much. I got a lot. I got another batch of mail about something else. There was a lot of tweets, people saying, yes, my wife has this. And to your point, a lot of people who have texture issues with food won't eat it as the raw food, but if it's blended, it's okay. Or if it's baked into something else, it's okay. A lot of men saying, you know, I have this too.

31:29 More men than I thought I thought was just a female thing although it does seem that they're just for my informal survey that it is more prevalent with women it seems to be a little bit of a millennial thing to just judging by some of the age ranges and Something I should have done much earlier. I Usually I do this This is this is a this is real And it has an entry in the DSM-5 manual, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. It is a mental disorder. So get ready to tell your wife she has a mental disorder. Honey, you've got a mental disorder. It is known as avoidant or restrictive food intake disorder.

32:15 And it is considered an eating... you can also call it SED. It's either ARFID, Avoidant Restrictive Food Intake Disorder, also known as Selective Eating Disorder. And unfortunately there are no drugs for it yet. Oh, that'll be... that'll... Why would anyone want to take... I don't know. I love the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. We're all crazy for something. Yeah, yeah. I actually discovered a new disorder which I want to have in the DSM manual. Lentitis. Put it in there if you look hard enough. No, I checked this one. Lentitis. I'll bet you also suffer from lentitis. I suffer from lentitis. Where you pick up a little piece of lint and you... No, no, no, no, no. Lentitis is... You have hairballs on your sweater and you gotta shave them off? No, no, no, no. It is the compulsion to lift the lint from the dryer off in one piece.

33:17 Well, I don't know that that's a compulsion you do it generally speaking because it's easier It no, it's it's a win for me. We're gonna pull off pieces at a time. No, no alternative No, you can pull the whole no you or you want to pull off without it breaking So yeah to get that one hole work if it breaks get the whole flap work avoidance disorder. Oh I noticed, what am I doing? I'm really happy when they went, oh yeah, I got the whole thing off in one go. And then you use the dryer sheet to rub the rest off. You use dryer sheets? Yeah, you don't use dryer sheets? God no, the chemicals in that, I wouldn't be anywhere near that stuff. But it makes everything fluffy and smell nice. Yeah, throw a bottle of perfume in next time.

34:07 Well, this... I can't imagine... what it does to fibers and what it possibly does when it's up against your body is... I don't even want to think about. That's how deadly those vibrations are. Oh wow, thank you for telling me this. Well, thank you. I shall immediately cease this operation. It's not that it fluffs stuff up that much. Well, the little bear on the package looks like it's going to fluff everything up. The bear on the package. Amen. Fist bump. Bear on the package. Lynn Titus, look it up. It's real. It's real, I tell you. It is.

34:45 All right. Since we were talking a little bit about climate change, I do have the Amy Goodman clip. I just want to—I'm going to collect these now, because no matter what she says, it's always related to climate change. And let's say Amy says climate change clip. Last month was officially the wettest month ever recorded in the United States. Despite a record drought in California, states across the Midwest were hit by heavy rain in May, a pattern which has been linked to climate change. It's like that pattern is linked to climate change. If it was just the opposite, California isn't being flooded and the rest of the country is in a drought. That's been linked to climate change. It's really unbelievable. Everything is. I'm going to make a huge clip file. That's why I put that one in there. The climate change clip file? For Amy, just Amy, because she just brings it in all the time. She brings it in more than anybody else working on television.

35:39 I have a...if you want to...since we're on her topic, let me just do... Well, on climate change or just on her? No, no, Amy. Oh, well, before you move on with Amy then, at the G7, the leaders of the G7...you know, you always want to push stuff out as a politician. We have these 2020 goals where China's supposed to kick in doing nothing and... No, I almost had this clip. I know which one you're going to... It's not a clip. It's not a clip. It's not a clip. The G7 leaders have agreed to completely Faves out all fossil fuel by the end of the century. Yeah, when we're all dead anyway carbon elimination They call it yeah, I got that too nuts They did big talkers All right, so the Weavers this is the clip is the Weavers and Weavers to the follow-up Well, I guess the lead singer who is a really good singer of the Weavers I'm not familiar with the Weavers the we well of course not the Weavers were a folk act in the 50s and

36:36 And they predated a bunch of—and Pete Seeger was in the group, and it was that— Oh, yeah. —you know, so they were a bunch—they were singing protest songs way before anybody else. And then they got apparently blackballed. But here's—play the clip. Here's the little rundown of this woman who died. It's the last one. Kentucky Democratic Governor Stephen Beshear has signed an executive order raising the minimum wage for employees of the state executive branch to $10. Is that on there? I'm sorry, yes? I'm sorry, I should have clipped that off, but the minimum wage went up somewhere. I'll just do something for myself. We'll just talk over it for a little while. Good work, John. Thank you. Thank you. I do my best. Here we go.

37:27 and bring its message of social change to the world. In a documentary called The Weavers Wasn't That a Time, Ronnie Gilbert recalled the period around the Weavers' founding after World War II, saying, quote, "'We still had the feeling that if we could sing loud enough and strong enough and hopefully enough, it would make a difference.'" It didn't! The Weavers were targeted by anti-communist fervor, investigated by the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee and blacklisted. Did they have any hits that I wouldn't know? They were blacklisted. I think they had a couple. But there was this folk era that you know, there was a folk era. This is Bob Dylan came out of this and Peter, Paul and Mary. Peter, Paul and Mary. The Kingston Trio. Kingston Trio, definitely. Rooftop Singers. Were you looking something up? No, I'm a disc jockey. I have all the Lawrence Welk albums.

38:17 So, meanwhile, so they tell the story of this woman and they have Pete come on and he talks about what a great voice she had. I'm actually curious about her voice. But so Amy goes to part two of this or the end of this clip. And I pointed this out before, and it's probably the worst in broadcasting radio or television. She runs her stories together 90% of the time, so you don't know if she's talking about one thing or another. This one was so egregious. Is this a prompter issue, do you think? I think it's her writers, or they just run these stories together. She's reading from the prompter because you can see her eyes going back and forth.

38:54 And it must be a prompter issue, but I think it's also they don't do breaks or they don't...she has no...she should go watch Judy Woodruff because the two people that do news rundowns are PBS NewsHour. In other words, they do a bunch of bunch of bunch of stories and then they do their...there's features later. They're the only group that does it. Everybody else spreads it out, kind of a news item feature right on top of it. But those two do it, and Woodruff does fine. She goes from story to story, and you know what story it is. Amy, no. She just rattles off all the stuff that's on the prompter. And this is the worst case I've ever heard. She catches herself and then makes some boneheaded comment. But you'll hear this. Listen to this. Ronnie Gilbert died on Saturday at a retirement community in the California Bay Area suburb of Mill Valley at the age of 88. Her death was confirmed by her partner, Donna, an immigrant teen.

39:45 teenage mother in our final headline who attempted suicide at a private Texas family detention center after being denied asylum. Whoa! Wait, she was gay? What, who, he, what, who? Let me listen to that again. That was good. Ronnie Gilbert died on Saturday at a retirement community in the California Bay Area suburb of Mill Valley at the age of 88. Her death was confirmed by her partner Donna and— Wait a minute. Now this is a huge mistake. That's not just run-on, that's just... I think someone eliminated a whole block of copy in the prompter. She's just reading, she's not even thinking about what she's reading, John. Oh no, she's never thinking, she just reads. And that's why she runs these stories together, she does it all the time. Nothing quite as bad as this, where the... That is also borderline clip of the day as well, that's a good one.

40:43 It was just it was just like wow fantastic, and you know she gets paid to do this Big big controversy big big controversy the president you probably heard this he was hanging out with a Rainy is it rainy Ramy Ramy. I think the Italian President? Prime Minister? I'm butchering this. And they were out on the balcony somewhere in the White House and it looked like the president had a pack of smokes in his hand. Getting ready to take a smoke. You can search this, you can just say, you know, just type in Obama smoking. And this came up of course in the press briefing after the bomb threat because the president, you know, if he were to be lying about smoking

41:34 And I was a secret smoker for a while in my first marriage, and I was lying about it. And it gets easy to lie about a lot of things, I think, once you have... That's a big lie. I feel. Yeah, for the President of the United States. I'm looking at the picture now. I'm going to play the clip here of the question. There seems to be a picture that's going around making the news with President Obama, the Italian Prime Minister, and he has something in his hand. And there's a lot of question about what this white thing is in his hand. Can you tell us Is the president, does he have a pack of cigarettes in his hand? He does not. He does not. What was it? I don't know, he probably wasn't there. But I mean, did he tell you what it was?

42:20 You may not be surprised to hear that I have not raised this issue with the president today. Okay, well, the president, as you've acknowledged, he reads media reports and it's everywhere. This picture with him holding something... I'm not sure that's the way I'd describe it. It is everywhere. Check it out. Check it out, man. It's everywhere. It's on BuzzFeed. Well, I mean, and the sizing, I'm not a smoker, but the sizing looks like... And it, I mean, so, I mean, so you're saying... I told you it's not in there. Cigarettes. It's not. It's not. It's not. Move on. Move on. Shut up, slave! Move on! Don't say anything about the smoking. Go away! Shut up, slave! It's a pack of smokes. It's a pack of smokes! You would know? Yeah. That's what everybody else thought. And he's holding it the way a smoker opens up a pack of Luckys. It's probably Kools. Doesn't he smoke... Didn't he smoke Kools?

43:12 I don't know what he smoked. Yeah, well he did respond to it. The president responded to this question. Gruss Gott! There you go, Gruss Gott. This was so strange when he's in Germany. Gruss Gott! Heil everybody! He should have added that at the end. Gruss Gott! Heil everybody! There is a need for a rescue mission. When the world is threatened, the world needs help, it calls on America. And that's the story. Grusgott! Grusgott! Yeah, he's holding a pack of smokes, there's no doubt about it. A pack of smokes. Liars. Well, we still don't see him smoking, so maybe he just carries around as a prop. It's a shitty lie, man. It's a shitty lie. It's just shitty. It's not okay. Sneaking smokes. Just say it. I'm hooked.

44:03 And people should be right. You'd probably get more mileage talking about how... How honest he is. ...for him to stop smoking them. Yes. Transparent. No, no, no. Can't have any of that. So have you seen the picture of the WTC4 building that is proposed they're going to build? No. I read something about it that... What I read, and this of course is a Silverstein property who had the original two buildings and issued the pull order, pull it. And he also didn't want to put a bunch of insurance on these things. Was it double? No, he said he wanted double the insurance because it was two buildings. Yeah, they finally didn't give him the money on that deal. Something else going on.

44:48 But here, yeah, I understand he got kind of screwed on the insurance, but WTC4, here's the rundown. We got our first look today at the design for the new 2 World Trade Center, the fourth and final tower to rise from the ashes. 80 stories tall, it will resemble a giant staircase. There's a lady who knows all I glitter as I go. She's behind a stairway to heaven. Amen, fist bump. Okay. Let's get on there.

45:26 Is it gonna be one of those tallest buildings ever? No, it's only 80 stories, but it looks like a giant stairway to heaven. I haven't seen it yet. It's the stupidest looking building I've ever seen. And this is by a very young architect, I think. They had an original architect, the famous architect who did the... and anyway, they moved that out and they got a new young guy to design it. Stairway to heaven. When I was in New York, they have these, they call them, I think, pencil buildings or pin buildings, and it's a very, very tall building, and each floor is one unit. It's really creepy. There's stuff on YouTube that takes you through some of these. There's a place in Berkeley that somebody built like that, only it's even thinner where every floor is one room.

46:21 So you want to go to the bedroom, you go up two stories. How does that really work? Well, I think if it had a big fire pole all the way down to the bottom, it would work well. But they don't have that. I don't know. A fire pole you could slide down in the morning. Hey, neighbor! Hey, neighbor! Hey, neighbor! All the way down. Yes. On just going back to climate change for a moment, because I didn't have this in order. We have the leap second coming up, which we discussed earlier. on an earlier show.

47:10 So that at the end of the smear window, disgusting thought, smear, smear, oh we got a smear window. We got a smear window made out of a lot of bay locks, locks flavored smear. But to explain this, how the second comes into play, here's Google's quote. However, unlike leap years, leap seconds do not happen at regular intervals because the Earth's rotation speed varies irregularly in response to climactic and global geological events. You sent me this as an email. Yeah, climate change is slowing down the rotation of the Earth.

47:51 We're speeding it up. I don't know it won't say It's just huh They might as well just say Oops, oh that failed never mind that fail. Yeah, we're all gonna die is what I was gonna say all right Well, I got the follow-up to make it a great day play that clip make it a great day enjoy I'm gonna die! Okay, oh man. These are good, John. I like these. For the end of show. I just hear them on the TV, I go, oh. Talking about hearing something or seeing something, and you see it, you know it.

48:32 So my daughter's, one of her best friends, maybe her best friend, the girl whose family is from Georgia, not Georgia here, but Georgia in Eastern Europe. Oh, yes, yes, yes. She calls me up to tell me this because she said it might be of interest to the show. And I told her to send me some examples she never did. Your daughter's girlfriend calls you up? Yeah. Does she listen to the show? Yeah. How old is she? Is she a millennial? Yes, she would be 21 22 fantastic and She says she's hot. She's a pretty girl. Okay. She says I'm such a bad She's she said first of all she president says she admitted that she's nuts about One thing and one thing only and she even has a tattoo and she's gonna get another one about this. She sees hexagons everywhere

49:26 I bet it's in DSM-5. She looks, I'm sure it is, she looks at a newspaper article and then she'll see hexagons like in the print and she just sees them. She only, she called me not to tell me that she sees hexagons everywhere she looks. Hexagons or honeycombs? Honeycomb hexagon is a six-sided thing. We had, actually I put one in the newsletter. Somebody made the earth into a, if you look at a cube and you look at it in two dimensions, it's a hexagon. Now the reason she called was she's seeing a lot more of them than ever.

50:04 Huh, and I said well that is that the first part is like okay. You see hexagons everywhere I guess you can that's just an Anomaly an ailment. I don't know but seeing more than ever that she says are cropping up everywhere I thought well she said that might be a no agenda thing I said well it could be I don't know what it is though, but now that it's been revealed We can this is what this is gonna be one of these things where? We're just gonna it's gonna be like hearing people say yeah, no we're gonna see hexagon, but this is turn off this program people It's driving everyone crazy the yeah, no and the fact of the matter all these There's you have are hearing it everywhere because they're saying it everywhere. There's a new one. There's a new one that you have I have it Mm-hmm. It's it's another affliction. Are you ready? We have a little montage. Oh That guy

50:57 How do you feel? That's great. Sir LBF sent that in. Well actually when he said that when the first one ran, I recognized it immediately. I knew that's what it was going to be. I knew that to an extreme. And what does it really mean to an extreme? Really to so far that it's just the extreme is the almost the end of the universe, John? It's more filler. We've got a three hour show to fill. And with that, I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where it stands for counting hexagons, Dvorak.

51:53 Yeah, well I want to say in the morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning to all ships that see boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning everyone in the chat room, NoahJennerStream.com, thank you very much for checking in. In the morning to all of our artists, and in the morning specifically to Nick the Rat, who brought us the Keystone Cops for the previous episode with the tank, Ramms. We love the Keystone Cops. Always good with the Keystone Cops. And thank you to all artists. NoAgendaArtGenerator.com is where you can find all of the submissions for each episode. And they're just so beautiful. Even though they don't always adhere to what kind of our loose rules are. For instance, don't use our heads. We don't like that anymore. No, we gave up on that because there's hundreds of those. Yeah. And granted, quite funny, but it's not about us. It's about the... About the community. Exactly. Yes, the community.

50:57 How do you feel? That's great. Sir LBF sent that in. Well actually when he said that when the first one ran, I recognized it immediately. I knew that's what it was going to be. I knew that to an extreme. And what does it really mean to an extreme? Really to so far that it's just the extreme is the almost the end of the universe, John? It's more filler. We've got a three hour show to fill. And with that, I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where it stands for counting hexagons, Dvorak.

51:53 Yeah, well I want to say in the morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning to all ships that see boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning everyone in the chat room, NoahJennerStream.com, thank you very much for checking in. In the morning to all of our artists, and in the morning specifically to Nick the Rat, who brought us the Keystone Cops for the previous episode with the tank, Ramms. We love the Keystone Cops. Always good with the Keystone Cops. And thank you to all artists. NoAgendaArtGenerator.com is where you can find all of the submissions for each episode. And they're just so beautiful. Even though they don't always adhere to what kind of our loose rules are. For instance, don't use our heads. We don't like that anymore. No, we gave up on that because there's hundreds of those. Yeah. And granted, quite funny, but it's not about us. It's about the... About the community. Exactly. Yes, the community.

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1:06:15 This is a little aside. This is the beginning of the news hour clip that I have. This is the last like yesterday's show I think. Beginning of news hour, bad sign. Wall Street broke out of a week-long slump today amid hopes for a break in the Greek bailout drama. Now, I don't remember news ever leading... I'm sure they've done it. But I don't remember them leading with stock market news. This is a bad sign, people. Bad sign. Yeah, that's almost like locust. Bad sign. I was reading something, and I don't know if you discussed it on DH Unplugged.

1:07:02 Where is this from? I hope it's not Zero Hedge. No, it's not. Zero Hedge is a little... It's like natural news. From Health Ranger Mike! That's right. Who was it? This guy. Get it through your head. I know, I know. Do you understand? I know, I know. I know you better than you do. I know. Oh, gee seed man rocks who is getting these clips everybody everybody We're not well would they send them to us I know but I mean we're not so the way this article which is not from zero hedge, but

1:07:45 what is so-called insider news. There is some question as to the charts they're looking at. There's a lot of technicals and a lot of, yeah, technical analysis in this particular article. But they tie the way the charts are running into the resignation of the two co-CEOs of Deutsche Bank, who resigned nine months before their contract was up. And I know from my New York banker, ex-New York banker friend, that it was already strange The co-CEO thing was really weird to start off with at Deutsche. But they resigned, and this article that will be in the show notes...

1:08:24 says that there may have been some kind of derivative bomb that went off behind the scenes. And Deutsche is reported to have a 73 trillion dollar derivatives book. Now I'm pretty sure, I sent the article to my ex-banker friend, he hasn't responded yet. I'm pretty sure he's gonna say bullcrap, but... He probably is. Yeah, well he usually says more, he usually tries to explain why. But it... It does warrant some attention, particularly in light of this, where we have, this is the lead story. Was it the News Hour? Yeah, News Hour. What do you think? Well, what do you think? You guys do this. Well, it's a sign that this kind of thing happens before it crashes.

1:09:09 Where all of a sudden it becomes front of the news. I don't think they've gotten enough excitement. The public in general has to start investing like crazy usually before a real stock market crash, but there could be a technical one that could be a problem. But this should not be at the top of the news. This is not the top news item. It's not ever. As far as I'm concerned, it shouldn't be. Well, Greece is down to the wire. I mean... Yeah, but how long... This has been the last... Yeah, I know, I know, I know. This is like, oh, if we don't do something about climate change by Tuesday, it would be on the back door. How often we've heard that for the last five years? Yeah, we've heard a lot. Constantly. Yeah, we've heard it a lot, for sure. But there's some other strange financial news. South Korea

1:10:00 Now, we haven't discussed it on the show, but there's been this ongoing MERS outbreak and everyone's freaking out. But it doesn't seem to be that many people in South Korea. But okay. I didn't hear about it until last Tuesday when Horowitz told me that he's going to China and he's concerned about this because he has to take a connection back through every MERS hotspot. Well, the South Korean Central Bank cut their key interest rate to a record low because of the MERS outbreak. The cut aims to ease negative impact for MERS. This is...what is MERS, John? Is this a...what kind of viral thing is this? John Mueller That's...remember, you remember, this is the Middle Eastern... Middle... Dr. Justin Marchegiani Eastern respiratory syndrome. John Mueller Eastern respiratory syndrome. It's the thing that the guy was in...had it in Saudi Arabia. He went to England, you know, coughed up some blood and the next thing you know, MERS is a thing.

1:10:55 Maybe Ebola was too tired and they couldn't make it happen over there. Well, the cut aims to ease negative impact from MERS and prevent consumer sentiment and production from freezing up. What are they expecting? A panic. People not going to malls. You have to remember that in Asia, malls are like, I don't care what mall you've ever been to in the United States, multiply it by a factor of 10 and you have an Asian mall. I would love to go to South Korea. They are huge. In fact, Korea is a good example. They have these giant department stores. The malls are mostly in China, but in Korea there's these giant,

1:11:35 apartments or like the latte a lotto or what a lottie whatever it's called and there's a couple other ones hund I think has one and they are they make Macy's New York which is a substantial store look like a look at like a it looks like a cocaine or heroin shooting gallery it's just a it's 10 times the size well not really but five times the size of the Macy's how they have a whole floor as a grocery store a whole or that's this and all for instance is quite the bright thing it's tourist attraction i'd love to go i'm sure don't know me about all kinds of cool people yeah i'm sure you would

1:12:12 Well, we'll have to see what happens with the funding. But, you know, we've been kind of expecting this. And Greece, the problem I'm seeing with Greece, I think what we'll see next is there'll be taxes on breathing. You know, you want four wheels on your car. Now there's going to be an extra tax. I don't know how if they can rape the citizens of Greece any more than they are already. I got a kick out of Max Kaiser. Because they were talking about the Greeks and he comes up and says this. Okay, this is what happens when you scapegoat a population, steal all their money and start putting them into camps and then exterminate them. It's out of the blue. Good plan. Exterminate them. Oh, well that reminds me.

1:13:00 Bilderberg is about to go into session. Oh, your favorite drinking club. They're bringing in the cases of champagne as we speak. Dom Perignon, I'm sure. And let's see, the Dutch Prime Minister is invited, Rutte, so he will be going. Of course, that will keep our eye on him. Eric Schmidt from Google. Eric Schmidt from Google is going, right? Exactly. And we have...the agenda is going to be cybersecurity. What else was there? Cybersecurity, of course climate change has to be on there. And you know, when the Bilderbergers come to town, you know, oh actually here's the press release. Hold on, let me tell you who's going to be here. Artificial intelligence, cybersecurity, chemical weapons threats, current economic issues, European strategy, globalization, Greece, Iran, Middle East, NATO, Russia, terrorism.

1:13:55 Ah, too many topics. Blah blah blah. Squirrel! But you know who's really excited about this? There's only one guy in broadcast history who is the man when it comes to Bilderberg. Oh yeah. The Seed Man. Yeah, the Seed Man. You're not welcome with the leader! When the Führer's come to town, when the Führer is in town, you little scum do not come show it! It done in secret! Project of Adolf Hitler! I... Oh, jeez. He's a gen. He's a national treasure, I tell you. He is. The more you play these crazy clips that are sent from others, you know, listen, we try to avoid these sort of things. We got time. You know, there's only so many hours in the day. Yeah. I have to say that some of these are just dynamite. And I think we... I can see why people listen to him. Yeah, I think we get the benefit of his art.

1:14:50 by playing some of his more colorful clips. He'll be out there with a bullhorn. Finally, we have, we got a little bit of news about Gitmo Nation East, the United Kingdom's, our looking to implement some new legislation to stop terrorism. We played many clips of that with Theresa May, who is arguably the Department of Homeland Security Secretary of State, not state, but Secretary Interior person, who will be in, and she could not answer the question as to what is, you know, what extremist views are and how you will or what you will or will not be allowed to say or put on social media.

1:15:29 And, of course, we need strong cyber laws and we need to be able to read everyone's email and Twitter has to hand over information, which is a point of contention and is being debated now. Unfortunately, it's not going to go into effect soon, not this year, which I find sad because, you know, we need to fill three hours. The more I can get from this crazy crap they're doing over there, the better. But here's Theresa setting it up for us. The operation and regulation of the investigatory powers used by the police and the intelligence and security agencies is a matter of great importance to the security of this country. And I know an issue of great interest to many members of this House.

1:16:10 As David Anderson makes clear, it is imperative that the use of sensitive powers are all overseen and fully declared under arrangements set by Parliament. It is therefore entirely right that Parliament should have the opportunity to debate those arrangements in full. The Anderson Review was undertaken with cross-party support and I believe it provides a sound basis to take this issue forward in the same manner. In order to ensure that this is the case, the government will publish a draft Bill in the autumn for pre-legislative scrutiny by a joint committee of Parliament with the intention of introducing a Bill early in the new year. Given the sunset clause in the Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Act 2014, the new legislation will need to be in place by the end of December 2016.

1:16:58 I've said many times but... What? If you took this woman and slowed her down and put a bed under her... We've already done this. With the music. With this woman? I think we did it with her, yeah. Well, we've done it with Hayden. She's really good on this little thing. Yeah, I didn't have time to do this one, but let me see, I have... yeah. I can actually mix two of them. We'll finish the regular and then I will post-produce this, but I have to cut it down a little bit because who cares about some stuff. Before, that it is not possible to debate the balance between privacy and security, including the rights and wrongs of intrusive powers and the oversight arrangements that govern them, without also considering the threats that we face as a country.

1:17:37 Those threats remain considerable and they are evolving. They include not just terrorism from overseas and homegrown in the UK. Did she say they're revolting? Revolving. Oh, revolting. But also industrial, military and state espionage. They include not just organized criminality but also the proliferation of once physical crimes online such as child sexual exploitation and the technological challenges that brings. In the face of such threats, we have a duty to ensure that the agencies whose job it is to keep us safe have the powers they need to do the job. This legislation is important. The substance is right.

1:18:16 The time is right and the way in which it has been developed is right. It is a properly considered, thought through set of proposals that will help to keep us safe at a time of very significant danger. It has been drawn up in close consultation with the police and security services. In an open and free society like ours, we can never entirely eliminate the threat from terrorism. But we must do everything possible, consistent with our values as a country, to reduce the risk presented by our enemies. It is a struggle that will go on for many years, and the threat we face right now is perhaps greater than it ever has been. And we must have the powers we need, powers we need, powers we need to defend ourselves. There you go. To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.

1:19:05 That's what's going on over in the US. What's going on over here is there's a big debate over the... or attempts to use social media to fight ISIS. So let's play ISIS anti-propaganda fail. At least 180 Americans are fighting for ISIS, lured by its propaganda machine. This war is being fought online as much as on the battlefield. But tonight, the man who was in charge of America's online assault on the ISIS message says that effort is failing. Margaret Brennan got the interview Alberto Fernandez left his job running the State Department's counter-messaging campaign against ISIS. Ooh, counter-messaging campaign, like it. Wait, wait, since you interrupted the clip, I think you should go, open your browser and go to Twitter. Twitter. And the counter-messaging... Is it hashtag?

1:20:03 Is no, no, it's actually a Twitter account with a whopping 27,000, 21,000 followers. What is it, counter? No. What do you call it? At sign. Yeah. Think again. Oh man. Underline. Yep. DOS. Now, I thought when I first saw Think Again DOS, I said, well, this is some Windows initiative because some people are still using DOS. Bring back the command line. They're choosing DOS or Think Again because DOS is better. But no, no, that means Department of State. It's very, you know, memorable. Think Again underlined. Oh, yeah, I remember that immediately. Yeah, and so there it is. There's your techno experts with their great Twitter handles. This is the techno expert. And their actual name is Think Again Turn Away. Oh, man.

1:20:54 Oh, this is so stupid. Gay men or men perceived to be gay face grave danger in ISIS-controlled territories. Hashtag ISIS. Mother of Canadian man killed for fighting ISIS has founds. Has founds. They need a copy editor. Let me ask you a question about this founds word. Founds. Geez. So this is the best we can do? Yeah. Well, that's why this guy quit. So let's listen to him complain. Alberto Fernandez left his job running the State Department's counter-messaging campaign against ISIS last month. He said the administration's approach was not aggressive enough. So do you think then that ISIS is winning the propaganda war? It's not that ISIS is so great, it's that the response against ISIS is both limited and weak. His staff of 50 struggled to compete against ISIS's online army which posts videos and messages from around 90,000 Twitter accounts. There's a fantasy which exists in Washington, which is this.

1:21:55 that somehow if you put magic social media or public diplomacy pixie dust on a problem, it will go away. To stop ISIS, he says, the administration must understand its appeal. ISIS is psychopathic. But that doesn't mean that the people that are attracted to it are attracted to it for the sick, perverse reasons. One of the challenges we face is that people are attracted to it for what we would call noble reasons. Noble reasons? Yes. What we would think of building things, rescuing people, doing something that is larger than yourself.

1:22:32 Man, so they had it so the way it sounds to me he has or had 50 people 50 people Which is a lot if I had a team of 50 and I wanted to attack the social media I didn't go I'd have nothing but fun So there's probably a dozen people maybe all 50 working on this stupid site and they're posting. Let's see They're posting here's two hours ago two hours ago three hours ago. So they're posting quite a bit on here and Except they haven't posted for two hours. So, wait a minute, that's because in Washington DC lunchtime is at 12, so the time we're doing this show is right during the break.

1:23:10 And it just probably came off lunch break, so we got three new tweets. Eleven, okay. So they're back from lunch. It's obvious. You can see by the times. They're back from lunch and now... Nigeria suicide bombers faked fight to attract onlookers. 31 people killed. Boko Haram. Hashtag Boko Haram. If I click on that, is there a whole bunch of Boko Haram hashtag usage or are they just making this? No, no. There should be a bunch. There's a couple, yeah. Couple. Someone sent us a note with a picture, which I thought was really important to bring up about the ISIS, ISIL, IS, advertising, whatever you want to call it, fighters, and how most of them are untrained nincompoops. And when they take pictures of them, you see, those are the brown ones, you can see the brown face through the... Mask. What is it called? Balaclava?

1:24:07 Balaclava, it's a Mexican wraparound. Yeah, Mexican wrap around. Okie dokie everybody. These guys always have their finger on the trigger continuously. They're waving their guns around but when it's the fake guys, our guys or Z or Blackwater or whoever else has been contracted to do this Usually they're white guys, you can see the whites, the white around there, you know, the faces through the... You see their white fingers. Yeah, the white fingers. And they are all trained professionals. And they are holding the weapon correctly with the index finger, the trigger finger, along the trigger guard and not on the trigger itself.

1:24:50 And this is something that's straight out. They're pointing with their finger. We need to keep an eye on it. And to the the image search and looked up terrorists. And I looked at it and there's a there's more than just this example. You're about to get a knock on the door with that search. OK. If terrorist images, no, you think I looked up terrorists and images and I looked at all the pictures and there's like both exam. There's more examples of the of the professionals than you'd think. Yeah, because I think there's a lot of these pictures are staged. And I think it's more than just a few. Let's put it that way. He spotted that we never noticed it before. But when you start looking into

1:25:31 intensely, you see a lot because there's a lot of the...and it's just...they just look...the whole thing looks...there's one where they're all in the proper position with the finger and they're lined up perfectly and along. It's just... Adam O'Neill I would like all of our producers to be on the lookout, you know, for new stories and then look at the images. Let's see if we could see who's who and then what new stories are associated. And we'll be able to track it very well, I think. I got a note from one of our producers, Anonymous. Dash, of course, is Arabic for ISIS, got that. As a contractor over here in the sandbox, I can tell you for a fact that we have transported boots on the ground all over to, quote, consult on both the Yemen border and the northern Iraqi border. And he was sending that from a computer in the desert. This is not reported.

1:26:23 At all. It does flow into this question about the so-called strategy for the training of the Iraqi troops, and I am uniquely qualified to discuss this topic. As in 2003, 2004, I was in Iraq with the Dutch Marines. It was a relatively quiet period at the time. I was in Samawah province, which is south of Baghdad, north of Basra, kind of in the middle there on the western side. But we were taken to a different town or to meet different tribe, tribal leaders. Almost every single day I was doing a radio show for the Dutch radio. Right after the show they take us out, you know, there's even a video of me somewhere getting my beard trimmed with the strings, you know, with that crazy

1:27:12 where they put the barber has the strings between his fingers and the strings are crossed and it's pretty much just pulling the hairs out. Braiding. What's that called? Nothing. I don't know what it's called. Keep going. But we also went to a training camp, as you recall, we were training the Iraqi security force. We were training them to take care of themselves. You were training them? Don't be a dick. The United States was training them. In fact, I'm going to put a link to the documentary. There's a 30-minute documentary about that. You can see some of this and you'll crap your pants when you see this training. Okay, go on. Now that you bring this up, I was kind of putting this off as maybe a catch-all at the end of the show or something, but I have a melodrama that I've produced

1:28:05 About the situation currently going on which is they said 450 people so this is breaking news, right? Shall I just play a little background? I'll just play a little background and then we'll go into your melodrama. Yeah, go do your finish So here's first here's the president what he said We've also seen areas like in Ramadi where they're displaced in one place and then they come back in another and they're nimble and they're aggressive and they're opportunistic and So, one of the areas where we're going to have to improve is the speed at which we're training Iraqi forces. I've got to say it right now. I went to see the training and there was a, we were the media and this was a little show and it was well known and you know, we had censors who really did nothing. We could do. Let me add to that. You were, they were on their absolute best. Yes.

1:29:00 And, you know, because we're media and we had...and we were doing blog posts and pictures that we talk about on the show. And we had...the censors gave up on us pretty soon. They had...this was before techno experts. And we were like, what? We had our own internet connection, so they couldn't do anything to us. But yes, on their best behavior, best show ever. And for those of you who are not familiar with the television show, Dad's Army, you must look this up on YouTube. So you have all these guys in a row and they have their ak-47s and that what's going on here? Someone's what is happening here? Oh yes? I don't know someone's calling me Someone who doesn't care about the show clearly On their best behavior or does so they're all lined up in a row have been the the command is issue about face

1:29:53 I swear to God, half of them turned right, the other half turned left. Oh yeah, yeah, it was right before, but none of it's a surprise. No, these guys, they can't shoot for shit. It's, what? These were the highly trained forces that we as S-Fear, the, it's that S-Fear, yeah, Security Forces Iraq, something or other. They were, they've been trained to, you know, protect the country. It was a farce. It was a huge... It was completely embarrassing. I will put a link in the show notes to Operation Iraqi Sunrise, which was what we called the radio show during that week. And you can see it. You can see this training camp. It is hilarious. Alright, so the president comes... Yeah, this was misrepresented in the media, I found, certainly by Fox News. Oh, we have no strategy for ISIS! Now, that's not exactly what the president said.

1:30:44 where we've trained Iraqi forces directly and equipped them and we have a train and assist posture, they operate effectively. Train and assist lies. Where we haven't, And a range of plans for how we might do that, essentially accelerating the number of Iraqi forces that are properly trained and equipped and have a focused strategy and good leadership.

1:31:33 a finalized plan is presented to me by the Pentagon, then I will share it with the American people. It's not... We don't yet have a complete strategy because it requires commitments on the part of the Iraqis as well about recruitment takes place, how that training takes place. And so the details of that are not yet worked out. Not yet worked out. Everyone went batshit over this. Oh, we have no strategy. We don't know what to do. It was only the Republicans that went batshit. No, no. Here's CNN. Are there Republicans at CNN? Absolutely not. For being with us right now, Farid, I don't know what's... They brought out Farid Zakaria to explain the confusion. More notable that the U.S. doesn't... Why?

1:32:21 Because he's the president's friend. They drink all the time together, root beer or whatever they do. Yeah, he was flown in to this other program for CNN because he's got the message. The US doesn't have a strategy or a complete strategy to train Iraqi forces to battle ISIS in Iraq or that the president used those words again, no complete strategy, because this is something he was roundly criticized for way back in September. We are all these months later and there's still no strategy? I think that the problem is that we think of this as a technocratic problem. This is very interesting. He says technocratic problem, which that's part of, that's a political term, is it not? I don't know what it is. I've never heard anyone say technocratic problem. Well, in the EU, they talk about technocrats who are running the EU and... Yes, the new, it's like the postmodern version of a bureaucrat.

1:33:14 Right, so he says a technocratic problem, I translate that to a political problem. The problem is that we think of this as a technocratic problem. Why can't we train these troops faster? Why can't we get them more arms? Why can't we ramp up their readiness? I'll tell you why, because they don't care. They don't want to do it. They're forced into these camps to train. They don't understand anything. They don't want to die. How about this? It's like the ski stone cops. About face Going every which way The legs going up and down up and down not is standing in place I think I think on the video. There's also holding a wooden gun. I have yes. Yes I think there's also a present arms piece in that video, but Flying one shoot the problem is political and

1:34:08 The Iraqi army represents a government that is seen as a Shiite government by the Sunnis. Remember, the Sunnis are the... Now this is interesting. Hold on a second. This is interesting for a reason you don't know. Well, okay. and you might as well play it, but I don't have it. I mean, because my little melodrama, I've got, it's long, it's nine clips with interludes between each one. But I had this clip, what he's about to say, I'm sure it's word for word, what one of these guys said in the melodrama, and it was either, I think it was General Zini who said it, but it was, okay, play, play.

1:34:46 The Iraqi army represents a government that is seen as a Shiite government by the Sunnis. Remember, the Sunnis are the guys that ISIS draws its recruits from. So if you don't change the composition of the army, if you don't make concessions to the Sunnis and bring them into the government, then you're building up what is going to be seen by the Sunnis as a Shiite army. So, the fact that you're training them and equipping them, all great, but when they go in there, the Sunnis are going to say, we prefer ISIS to this. And that's what's been happening for the last year or two. But you all, I mean, but right away, I'm sure President Obama even knew himself that he, if he, whatever... Shut up, stupid, stupid idiot. What you miss is that he, what you miss though, because we stepped on it, he says the Shiite Sunni

1:35:36 issue is a political problem. No, that's a religious problem. Well, that has been debated since the beginning of this whole affair since 2003. I will finish with a 18-second clip, oh no, 30-second clip from Josh Earnest, then we'll go into a melodrama. Here's Josh from the podium talking about the training. Training, advising and assist operations will bolster the capacity of both the Iraqi security forces as well as the Sunni tribal fighters in Anbar. that are operating under the command and control of the Iraqi central government. And that will further our strategy to assist the Iraqis as they take the fight to ISIL on the ground in their own country. And we can support them by, you know, through these missions that the President has authorized. We can also support them with military air power. But ultimately, it will not be the responsibility of the U.S. military to go in and do for the Iraqis what they must do for themselves. So here's what I'm hearing, and then I'll be done.

1:36:40 First of all, we know from Agent Orange, our man on the scene, he's been in Iraq, he's in Kandahar, he's all over the place. We have a direct line of communication with him. It's part of what he does. He's definitely our handler, but that's okay. He's all pro-military, anti-politics, I kind of would surmise. that we have the so-called advisors or consultants. The way it works is they're complete warriors and they're just saying, hey, watch how I do this to these guys who can't even figure out what about face is. And now we're going to have air support. In order to use air support effectively, you have to have people on the ground, boots on the ground, painting the target.

1:37:23 So the way I see it is we're just training these guys to go in there and you know with like an antenna on their head so that we can just take everything out. including them probably. Well, I think there's an element of that and I think that's what you're going to be told. But I have the... there's a story behind... there's something else going on and this was a presentation on PBS NewsHour which I've reduced to about four or five minutes. This is big for you. Yeah, you've done a lot of work here. It's long but I cut out these guys going back and forth and first let's introduce the players, play clip melodrama, the players.

1:38:00 Okay, I have most of these yeah when you do when you do these I I didn't go back I just started I said no and here's what happened I'm gonna tell you I started taking these clips as well It'd be three or four and then I said oh crap and there's another another another I again it with nine clips with the first three didn't get numbered Just for future sake when you do this, which I like a lot when you do this So you would you have their own name melodrama? But if you can do melodrama dash 1 dash 2 dash 2 but before you get to the description of what what it is I'd like to do that, yes. Okay. Joining me now to review today's announcement and the fight against the Islamic State are former U.S. Defense Secretary and CIA Director Leon Panetta. Former commander-in-chief of U.S. Central Command, retired General Anthony Zinni. Former Undersecretary of Policy at the Department of Defense, Michelle Flournoy. And retired U.S. Army Colonel Andrew Basovich. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome the team from Project Pundit.

1:38:58 Now, this thing went on for a good half hour, it seemed like it, it probably was 20 minutes, it's very long. But this Bacevich guy, the colonel, I was thinking, well, everybody's a general or something, and the woman's an undersecretary of state, she didn't really have much to contribute except a kind of a bunch of cliches. But this crime was thinking why did this guy make general he's got a bunch of books out. He's the most Ornery guy, this is naming a ziti. It's bat. No z zini is the general who used to be sent come Yes central this guy massive base of itcher most of itch is a colonel and I'm single I didn't

1:39:37 I believe there's a lot of colonels, because you get these guys that they never could make general because they were troublemakers from the get-go. And they, you know, they wouldn't play the game. And he is the one guy in this group that is not playing the game that apparently, if you listen to this, Panetta is still playing. He's still on somebody's payroll. Well, he has the Panetta Group. He has a big consultancy. Well, he's also...right. I'm sure he's getting direct money from the government because he is government He is the government's spokesman here, telling us the litany of what's going on. And he reveals, I think, in this little presentation near the end, what's really this is all about. This, oh, what's the big scandal about 425 advisors? Let's play. Here's where the colonel jumps in. Well, I think it's a very modest adjustment to the existing policy. And the emphasis here is on very modest.

1:40:26 The policy is based on the assumption that we have the capability to create effective Iraqi forces. Now, when you think about it, we've been trying to do that for 10 years now. We've not succeeded. And I'm a little bit skeptical that the addition of 450 trainers is going to make that much of a difference. I'm sure that they'll be able to transfer some important skills to the people that they train, but will they be able to transfer the will to fight, which would seem to be the fundamental problem with the Iraqi forces that have basically been taking a licking from ISIS?

1:41:12 So Zinni, Zinni, jumps in and he kind of agrees with the colonel and while he's talking, and this is like little clips amongst a longer speech, while he's doing this, Panetta is getting steamed up. The general chimes in. Well, I think it's an indication that we continue to underestimate the capability of ISIS, the enemy, and overestimate the capabilities of the Iraqi military to deal with this. The strategy from the beginning has had several flaws, in my view. Yeah. The guys don't want to do it. Several flaws from the beginning. Who's sitting there that has something to do with those flaws? Yeah, him. Him. Well, him too.

1:42:01 but Panetta is the one they're all aimed at. By the way, Panetta's really pissed off by the end of this. And I cut all these out, but at the beginning of most of these little spiels back and forth between these people, they started with, and Woodruff jokes about it at the end, they all started with, with all due respect. I respectfully disagree. You gotta help me, man, because I don't know where you want me to play. Now we go to Panetta comes in and with his first bunch of bullshit. This is melodrama. Panetta gets hackles up for why why shouldn't Americans be concerned that if the Iraqis don't have the will to fight why should more US trainers make a difference? This isn't just about Iraq. Oh, man. He's pissed off here. I can hear it This is about a threat to our national security if Isis is allowed to have a base of operations in Iraq

1:42:58 Make no mistake about it. Their intentions are to use that as a base of attacking our country and attacking our homeland. That's why we've got to push the Iraqis to make sure that the Sunnis do engage and that they're armed and that the Kurds do the same. Wait a minute, can I ask you a question? Yeah. Did he just say that the dad's army, those jabronis, the guys in the Hilux Toyotas, No, no, the jabronis who are supposed to, are being trained that they're going to, they're directly responsible for protecting the homeland? Yeah, I said that too. But my thing, it was still the funniest part is that they're only, the whole ISIS thing is to come after us. With their Toyotas. And they interraced that actually in a better way further on with the melodrama. But this is like, and what? They're F-15s in their battleships? How are they going to get over here?

1:43:53 Okay, so let's go to the next one is clip. I love it. I love it. Will you do the Toyotas on floats? Toyos on floats Melodrama Colonel that Colonel now has got his hackles up after Panetta just kind of attacked him because he talked longer and he was really attacking this Colonel the book writer right and so here we go Strikes back? Yeah, this is a Colonel Retort 5. I think Secretary Panetta is vastly exaggerating the threat posed by ISIS. The threat posed by ISIS to the United States of America is actually very, very limited. We probably should be worrying more about drug lords in Mexico in terms of a direct threat to our safety. Get him off the air! Get him off the air!

1:44:39 So he's not putting up with Panetta. So now we have Panetta clip six, Panetta's coming back. Well, look, again, I don't think there's any question that our national security interests are involved here. Otherwise, why would we even be there in the first place? Oh, let me think. Turf, resources, hookers, it's always the same. The reality is that we know how to do this without deploying the 101st Airborne or or a large number of brigades there. I mean, the fact is we're good at counterterrorism. That's what we did in Iraq before we left. That's what we did in Afghanistan. Yeah. How'd that work out? Well, that's what the colonel does. Now we're going to skip clip seven because that's the meaningful clip that I'm going to save to the end and go to eight, which is the melodrama. Colonel strikes back.

1:45:29 He starts his retort with a laugh based on what Panetta just said, going on and on about how great we are. Why isn't that the right way to move forward now? Again, with all due respect, we don't know how to do this. I mean, we were in—the U.S. military was in Iraq from 2003 and 2011. Four years later, we have this basket case on our hands. So the notion—I think it's important for us to recognize that there are some problems that American military might cannot solve.

1:46:09 This is how Vietnam started. In fact, Zinni, I don't have the clip because again, this was a half an hour of these. Zinni says this. Oh, really? Yeah. General Zinni says, this is how Vietnam started. We send in some advisors, we send in some more advisors, we send some feet in the ground. Next thing you know, we're in this stupid war that we can't get out of. So he says the same thing. Panetta's not putting up with any of it because he's got the government, the line of bullcrap that he has to deliver. So this is the clip nine. This is melodrama. Panetta strikes back. You know, we've learned time and time again, particularly in these last few years, with crisis after crisis, that if the United States doesn't provide leadership in these crises, nobody else will. I don't know who the hell he expects we're going to be able to turn to to be able to protect our national security in this situation. The United States is going to have to provide that leadership. And, yes, we need to work with the Iraqis.

1:47:04 And, yes, we need to work with other allies in the region, but we have to provide that leadership. We can't just stand on the sidelines wringing our hands. I mean, ask the people of Paris what happened there with ISIS. Ask the people in Brussels what happened there with ISIS. What happened in Toronto? What's happened in this country as a result of the threat from ISIS? This is a national security threat, and we shouldn't kid ourselves about that. Now, within the whole range of things he was saying, this clip set, melodrama shorty clip, most meaningful. This, when he said this, this is Panetta again, I said, oh, oh,

1:47:46 Oh, this is what this is really about. Let's go back to this old, this old scheme. In order to move ISIS out of Iraq and then take on ISIS in Syria. This is going to be part of that larger strategy. And that's what it's been about all along, to have a reason to go and take Syria, take Assad out. That's what we didn't do. That that would I guess he was talked out of it Obama's talked out of the bombing we're supposed to do the red line Because the red line and all that they just can't get this out of their craw because there is still Russia and Iran Syria we get we got to get them out of there for some reason because of some pipeline coming through yeah, but that's what this this whole thing is about huge

1:48:32 It's like, that's why I called it a melodrama. It is a bunch of bullcrap. This is all about finding some way to still get Bashir out of there. Assad. Good job, John. Let me celebrate this work you did. Yes. Excellent work. Excellent. Excellent. Yeah. Who was the colonel again? That was Colonel, his name was Bacevich. I believe. He's got some books saying that we suck or something. Yeah, he should not get into a hot tub that has a lid. He was definitely not playing by the rules. That's probably not a great idea. The rules of the game. Wow. And it was just getting more red as the thing went on.

1:49:20 He felt it was a personal attack on him or something. I don't know. Well, yeah, his whole Panetta. It's a personal attack on him. I think he has the Panetta Institute, I think is what it's called. Yeah, the Panetta Institute. Yeah. So he's got a lot of he's got he's heavily invested in the game. Did you see the Ayatollah Khomeini speak? No. Well, I have. I don't understand. I know that we have we're working on this deal with Iran and, you know, the nuclear deal. And the Hayatollah came out and did a little speech, and I have an on-the-fly translated version, which I believe to be the translation that was made in real time and where some dignitaries who were sitting in the audience... It was a whole video thing. In this beautiful room, or it's not even a room, it was like a big stadium and it had one of those mecca blocks in the middle.

1:50:13 It's pretty stuff. They got a mecca block in the middle. Yeah of this of this huge auditorium Kind of like well, yeah, I'll have to look up what it is. There's a name for that thing. Yeah, the mecca block Mecca from the block here is the translated version of what he was saying? well today both the ISIL Al-qaeda and the like Are being supported by the US and Israel as well as some of the famous Islamic, some of the movements that are known as Islamic but they are miles away from Islamic ideology and jurisprudence. You can identify and get to know about world affairs and try to

1:51:07 comprehend and identify the right stance. Now, the same way we see this savage and brutal acts of the ISIL, the same way we oppose it, both in Iraq and Syria, we oppose the brutal acts of the US Federal Police inside the US. They're both similar to each other. The slogan of death to America. Death to America! That was cool. He says, the ISIS and Al-Qaeda are run by American Israel and they're just as brutal as the federal police in America against their own citizens. Yeah, I'll give him a good one. Amen, fist bump. I'll give him an amen fist bump for that. Yeah. There's a lot of evidence to show he's right. Oh my goodness.

1:52:05 Yeah, well they got a clue. We say, because we've, there's been plenty of people that have testified that the CIA started this whole thing. We have the document. We have the document. We have the document. It was the whole strategy. That was the proposal document. That was the RFP. Yes. That proposed it. Request for proposals. It was in 2011. Yes. What can we do? What can we do? And they even named it, the Islamic State, in the document. And that document was released by Freedom of Information Act. And it shows that we were at least talking about doing this. And we did it. And the other thing that's noteworthy, and you've pointed this out,

1:52:41 Is that why aren't they like, you know, go, you know, they're wanting all anti-Israel. Oh, you mean why aren't there attacks by ISIS and ISIL and Al Qaeda in Israel? Yeah. Yeah, baffling. Yeah, it's a stunner. It's just, it's completely baffling. Good work on that, John. I like that a lot. That's something we should pull out and keep for later for, for posterity's sake. Are we ready to leave the Middle East? Yes, I have a note that came in from our economic hitman. He lives he does live I must have broken up with this Russian girlfriend. Yeah, who was who was a pissed at State Department's? Sure, whatever. Yeah, she must have been hot Russian let's see yes spy hot huh they have that theory because our spies aren't bad-looking generally at least some of them and

1:53:34 Today it is, oh it goes on about having a lunch. I can tell you that the U.S.A., this is the only note, the rest of it was just personal, he's talking about watching Mr. Robot. I can tell you that the U.S.A. is pouring money into Nigeria, Cameroon, Chad, but not as much in Chad, and other neighboring states to forestall Boko Haram ISIS growth. They're doing some of it through USAID contracts rather than direct military subsidies because they know that Nigeria will just absorb the money without much result. So it is, I guess even with the new guy, so it is a feat on the ground by government contractors and not the usual NGO type. That means trouble.

1:54:22 Yes, it's that they're bringing in the security types with short hair and serious attitudes. Ooh, you know the Jackals, the Z guys, Blackwater, those guys. I am happy to be in Burma on my trips over Western, over my trips. No, very important, John. Notice he says Burma. CIA and all the guys who are really on the inside, they say Burma. I got this from Uncle Don. uh... verses me and mark off to find a bench or he'd been there really anal about that and we just as burma man of course i'm sure he was not aware of that that was probably a mistake

1:55:01 But he did it. On my trips over Western Africa, he says he's happy to be in Burma over any trips over Western Africa anytime, because it's better. Unfortunately, I must go or send someone in my place. So someone in his group, whatever group it is, has to go back to Western Africa. So he's probably going to have to go back. Yeah. Is he not afraid of Ebola? No, you know I don't think he's commented on Ebola, but he doesn't seem afraid of it bolus. Those is bullcrap Anyway, so there you go. It's our African update no, but no other show in the world will give you this sort of information I I think you're right We are pretty much Yeah, we're the only people that do this thing as far as I know if there's another show out there I'd love I'd love to know so that we can

1:55:47 Listen to it and get some good ideas. Yes, everybody, it's time once again for Tech News! Tech News! All the tech hornies are doing their thing and we bring you real tech news here on the best podcast in the universe because we are uniquely qualified. I have a tech news story. Alright, you may start off the tech news segment. Okay, so the clip is Apple Music, illegal. Yeah, that's part of it. Apple Music, the streaming service that the company announced this week is facing scrutiny in New York and Connecticut. Well, the attorneys general of those states are now investigating the negotiations Apple made with music companies while developing the service to look for signs of potential antitrust violations. All right, nice read lady. Your analysis, John.

1:56:37 New York and Connecticut are always been the two states with the strong, they have the strong attorney general that just goes after everybody for anything. You look at them cross-eyed and they'll sue. And they are the ones who do a lot of these initial things, like when they busted up, or they didn't bust them up, but when they went after Microsoft, I think it stems from the Connecticut thing. And then other people join in later if they make headway because they're given a green light within their own state. And I think that probably they'll find something, because I don't think Apple is...this is not good for anybody. I don't know who it's good for except Apple.

1:57:13 I got a lot of responses about this is from indirect or directly from the Apple Worldwide Developers Conference keynote, which, man, I miss Steve. Well, the other thing is that this style, I think we talked about this, or Horowitz and I talked about it, which is the problem. This style of presentation is 1980s. This is a 30-year-old style of presentation. Dark room, stupid music, come out in black.

1:57:49 Church, a bunch of shills in the audience. It's like a church, man. It's a cult. It's very much like a church. And I've always thought that when it's done properly, very church-like, which means a lot of solemnity. Well, there's some problems cropping, just sneaking into it. And I thought up until they announced the music thing, it wasn't too bad. But they bring, you know, I like the women they're bringing up, but I don't think they're particularly good presenters. I think it was specially dull. Yeah. What I, what Something that I think is a very bad precedent, and they should stop immediately, is making Eddie Cue the funny guy in all the presentations. Look, there's Eddie with a hat. Look, there's Eddie doing karaoke. Look, I mean, could you... I don't get the genesis of this. Oh, Eddie was Steve's guy. When I met Steve Jobs for that private meeting... Was this the guy who expected to take over the company? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Oh, so they're just humiliating him? That's what it seems like.

1:58:47 But Eddie is in the...certainly, because he ran iTunes previously, and then he ran the App Store. Now he runs, I don't know, everything except being CEO. He has some kind of magical powers, but he is the... in the music business, you know, people suck Eddie off because he makes the deals. So here's what I understand is going on. Apple has been an all-out assault against Spotify, of course, and they bought Beats as a part of that for their radio thing, which is... it's not radio when you have a playlist. It's not radio, it's just a playlist. Okay? It's not radio. This, and this is part of a larger strategy, which I think is an interesting one and in some part probably a very good one. Apple is going directly

1:59:34 to the artists. The difference in money you make through the Apple ecosystem as an artist is tremendous. We're talking 30-40% more money across the board that you could make in the Apple ecosystem, including whatever they're going to do with Beats. Spotify is really good for the labels. The labels make so much money on their catalog. There's even label guys who are saying, we shouldn't even make new records. Screw it. Why would we waste our money on that? Because of... Right. This is a big deal what you just said, because it was written up in Variety and all sorts of places. And there's one other bit to this. About just drop the musicians. Yeah.

2:00:21 There's one other piece, that all of the label heads all have stock in Spotify. Their entire mission is to hype this thing up. We're going to have a massive IPO, which will be another money-losing company that's going to go public. They're all going to sell into the IPO. They'll make out like bandits with billions of dollars. and Spotify will kind of die off slowly, I believe. But the artists are being brought into the Apple fold. And here's what, Apple's strategy is interesting. As I watch the keynote- Well, let me stop you before you go to the strategy analysis. Don't most artists sign their life away to the labels and they can't do what you're describing? Not every deal is standard. So yes,

2:01:11 But it all depends on how many records you have to make, whatever your...if you have a multi-album deal. But the idea is clearly to get the bigger artists who have more say and, you know, are on different deals, and also just unknowns, you know, like just anyone who wants to release something. It's going to be a better deal. The indie guys. Yeah, the indies and the big guys. It's going to be a better deal, a much better deal for them. And the Spotify thing is just a huge hype, as I said, for all these guys to cash in and make... All right, what's the Apple strategy? Go on. Sorry. Okay. So outside of that, Apple is doing some... They're zigging to the cloud zag, and I like this. Their spotlight is what I was really interested in. So I have Spotlight running on

2:02:00 on the MacBook Air that I produced the show on, and although not great, the improvements that they're putting in there are effectively bringing all search local. So instead of using a cloud system like Google, this is a direct assault on Google. They are...so now Spotlight, which is Apple's local search system, but it's also an iOS for the iPhones and iPads, it is now searching through your own stuff, it is going out there, they're indexing sites, you can use natural language query, and I'm pretty sure

2:02:36 that if it's not happening already somewhere in the background, I think they're going to create a distributed search engine with all of their devices through their operating system. And I think it will kick Google's ass long term. And it's not in the cloud, and they really push the privacy aspect, the security aspect, it's your stuff, we don't sell it to people. You know, saying things like, why would we sell your information to somebody else? No, Apple doesn't have to do that. I think it's a very, very good strategy. Distributed search... You're assuming it is a strategy based on your presumptions. Yes, I think it's a strategy. I think it's a strategy and you will see Spotlight becoming... going after Google with this... and it makes so much sense. Well, they want to go after... we know this for a fact.

2:03:22 This is in their DNA. In their DNA. Yeah, part of their sexuality. Sexuality is part of their DNA. To hate Google because Google stole prematurely the iOS style of interface for phones. When the Android phone came out... I don't believe any Apple strategist, because that phone was a revolutionary new idea for smartphones, which have been around. Microsoft invented the smartphone, as far as I can tell. And they came up with this revolutionary way of doing it while Eric Schmidt was on the board, so he knew all about it. And so you can give him a heads up over on the other side on his company and get him started on this, even though it, I guess,

2:04:03 Steve and all the rest of the people on the board had no idea that, well, I don't, Google the search engine, why would they do a phone? That makes no sense. So let's tell them all about it. That had to be the thinking, and that gave Google a number, I mean, way head start on everybody else because they probably could start it right within the invention itself, which had to be 2005, 2006 timeframe. So they were just right on their tail almost immediately. Apple should have had another two or three years to itself. to get more market share and to pretty much take over the smartphone game. But they didn't because Google was, it's believed they cheated. No, they did. I mean, they took the idea. And so Apple was irked about that. Eric was fired, thrown off the board by Steve. And he was irked. Everybody knows this. He was mad as hell and wasn't gonna take it anymore. And I think he pushed that concept right deep into the company.

2:05:04 And so they're out to get Google sure that so your theory makes sense from that perspective And I haven't heard this analysis anywhere else now you won't Sorry, what am I thinking and then look at the size of the screen It's thinner it's thinner Yeah, oh, we can do native apps on the watch. I'm puking in my mouth people get tech horny people And then finally, tomorrow, despite the lawsuits, it has been 60 days since it was filed in the Federal Register. Net neutrality. The laws go into effect as of tomorrow. No, I didn't. Well, no, of course you didn't know that. You're not tech horny. Weren't the tech reporters telling us this left and right? Uh, yeah, no. Hey man, fist bump. Your only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite.

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2:19:26 It's got an angle, it's well lit. Nice, very nice. This was a little funny that I just picked up. We often talk about the scam that is Al Sharpton and his, was it the National Action Network? Yeah, I guess. You want to just briefly explain how that works? Well, the idea is this was perfected, this has probably been perfected way before these guys, but the Rainbow Coalition for Jesse Jackson's was one of the better versions of it. And I think it's probably still one of the best exemplifies the problem. You go into a CEO, you know, first you target a company and you have to find some company that's got like, they don't have enough black people working there, let's say.

2:20:09 And you go and you meet with the CEO, you say, we noticed a couple of things. One, you don't have a lot of black people working here and there's a lot of people complaining about it, you know? This is my version. A lot of people complaining about it and it might cause some protests. You know, a lot of people in our organization want to protest and want to picket your place and want to point this out to you. And we noticed another thing that's kind of interesting. You've never donated to our operation ever. There's no list, you're not listed anywhere. That's strange, I don't see your name on my call list. And I just let you know that this is going on and I'm trying to hold them back, I'll hold them back, it'll keep this from happening. But you might want to think about donating.

2:20:47 Because that at least gives you something, you know, some leverage. And they, you know, oh shit, yeah, and they do a check for, you know, 10 grand or whatever it is, and then that keeps the operation going. Now, I've heard stories that a bunch of companies have hired private investigators, they're not putting up with this crap. Because it's extortion, but it's kind of legal. And there's stories where Jackson walks into a CEO's office and the guy shoves an envelope over to Jackson. I guess he's got pictures of his mistresses or something. Here you go. And Jackson just gets up and leaves. There is a black preacher on, I forget his name, but it'll be mentioned at the beginning of the clip, on the Greta Van Susteren show. She has the most peculiar mouth.

2:21:30 She had a lot of work done. Oh, is that what it is? Yeah, no, she was a very outrageously not fit for television look. Oh. For Fox and so she decided and she knew days were numbered as she got older so she had a lot of work done and it kind of, it was, I think it was just a shit crap job. Yeah, certainly. There will be some bruising for three or four days really. It's not going to be that bad. So here she is and this guy was... I like it. I like it when people come out and just call it the way it is and particularly if they get exposure. Obviously on Fox it's much easier. Pastor Marcus Mosiah Jarvis joins us. Good evening, sir. I read that you accused Reverend Sharpton of being a pimp. Yes, that would be the case. So what happened?

2:22:26 Well, we were having, they were holding a Stop the Violence rally in Hartford, Connecticut. And I guess his invite was supposed to bring some attention to the plight in the city of Hartford. But once the rally and the march was ended, there was a gathering at Shiloh Baptist Church, and there was an offering or a demand for money and I thought that that was hypocritical and contradictory to the cause. How are you going to ask a crime riddled neighborhood that's impoverished for $100 each donation and without cause? It didn't say what the money was going to be used for. And so I thought it was pimpism at its best. But resist we much. We must and we will much about that

2:23:20 be committed. Pimpism at its best. Nice. Nice. Another thing that happened that was really nice to see was, and only this kind of guy can do it, Jerry Seinfeld, you probably saw this. I don't know if I have. Oh, okay. Is he driving around in cars with Vietcong? No, no, he was on, uh, what is it, uh, one of the, uh, Kimmel or not? I have not seen it. Siri Seinfeld thinks young people today are... Oh, sorry, that's not the clip. This, this is the clip I want. Here we go. Comedy is, I do think, is the, you know, supposed to push the line, push towards lines in the medium. There are more people now who

2:23:57 who will let you know if they think you went over the line than ever before. Don't I know it? I mean, you have to feel the same way about comedy. Yeah, but they keep moving the lines in for no reason. Right. I do this joke about the way people need to justify their cell phone. I need to have it with me because people are so important. Right. You know, I said, well, they don't seem very important the way you scroll through them like a gay French king. You know, it's just... Well... That's very offensive to the gay French kings. Yeah, I did this line recently in front of an audience. And you can, it's a comedy where you can kind of feel like an opinion. And they thought, what do you mean gay? What are you talking about gay? What are you saying gay? What are you doing? What do you mean? You know? And I thought, are you kidding me? I mean, we can't even...

2:24:50 You I could imagine a time and then this is a serious thing I can imagine time people say well that's offensive to suggest that a gay person Moves their hands in a flourishing motion and you now need to apologize I mean, there's a creepy PC thing out there that really bothers me. Yeah, it's called cultural Marxism I'm happy he did that I He can't even do college shows anymore. He said, yeah, he meant a lot of other comics have commented on this that they can't do college shows. Bill Maher is the last guy that can do college shows. Oh yeah, because they're all in with him. I think this is a, I wasn't gonna play it, but this mentions the college thing. This is from the Today show, I believe. Curious Einfeld thinks young people today are too politically correct for his comedy. He says this time there is

2:25:51 Something wrong with that the former sitcom star is raising some controversy calling out Millennials Oh controversy whoo calling out Millennials controversy noodles boy I'm being able to laugh the 61 year old comic legend said last week political correctness is running amok among young people I don't I don't play colleges, but I hear a lot of people tell me, don't go near colleges, they're so PC. They just wanna use these words. That's racist, that's sexist, that's prejudice. Seinfeld famously avoided vulgar and offensive humor, but he was criticized for the lack of diversity on his long-running TV show, as well as his web series, Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, which featured no women and just one black comic during its first season. Seinfeld addressed that criticism in a CBS This Morning Buzzfeed Brews segment last year.

2:26:35 Wait, it's CBS News This Morning BuzzFeed Brew? What the hell is that? I have no idea. Arrest that criticism in a CBS This Morning BuzzFeed Brew segment last year. To me, it's anti-comedy. It's more about, you know, PC nonsense than are you making us laugh or not? I'm glad he's saying that. Well, he's you know, somebody's I'm sure a lot of comics feel the same way although many of them especially the ones that were that appeal to the Millennials get extremely raunchy in some other You'd think non PC ways. He's been always been a clean comic. Yeah, one of those guys. He doesn't do booger and dick jokes He doesn't do fit. It doesn't you know say, you know Fuck fuck fuck constantly Hickory dickory duck

2:27:23 And he can't even... he gets everything he does. He does the stupid thing with the comics and cars getting coffee, which is on Crackle, I think. You can get it on the Roku box you can dig around. Which is quite funny. It's funny. I like it. It's funny. He gets a various vintage car and he goes driving around with some guy. He's had Tina Fey on, he's had Hart, the black guy who's very funny, who loves... That's the only one, only one black comedian. You're no good, Jerry Seinfeld. You're a bigot, you're a racist, you hate women. And in fact, that is not true. He always had hot girlfriends. Remember that shirt? The whole show is based on him running through girlfriends.

2:28:09 And then finding some little thing sexist sexist pig that he couldn't taste and like the big hand girl and the toothbrush or I like to sit around naked was one of my favorites and then he decided to get around naked and she told him not to and so while we're on the kind of cultural Marxism, which is pretty much the stifling free speech and Well, that's the idea. Yeah, that is the idea. And we had another controversy erupt spontaneously over Reddit. Reddit now being run by Ellen Powell, who is the former Kleiner Perkins associate. Who sued them. And lost. And lost big time. She's now the CEO of Reddit. And they have decided to ban certain subreddits

2:29:01 And I have two quick clips. He was on NPR just so you can hear a little bit about what they're trying to do. It's well, it's all in the words, really. This is about harassment of people and when when a subreddit will be closed if, well under the following conditions. The question is whether it would make them fear for their safety or the safety of those around them or where it makes them feel like it's not a safe platform. So somebody expressing ideas that aren't consistent with everybody's views is something that we encourage. There are certain posts that do make people feel unsafe, that people feel threatened. A post that makes me feel unsafe and threatened. Or they feel that their family or friends or people near them are going to be unsafe. And those are the specific things that we are focused on today. This is vague. I don't know what she's talking about.

2:29:56 Our site's goal to be a completely free speech platform. We want to be a safe platform and we want to be a platform. Let me just roll that back again. Just listen carefully to what she's saying here. There we go. Completely free speech. A little more. I want to hear that whole sentence. Here we go. Okay, now I read the blog post and their rules etc. And they keep there's a very subtle difference instead of talking about which is interesting She said it here about free speech. She talks about free expression and this folds back into the yelling, you know, like Free speech is is not free speech if it's unless it's an expression.

2:30:58 which I think one day will go to the Supreme Court for some bizarre reason. So they talk about it being free expression, which is not the same as free speech. It's also free expression is not in the Constitution. Free speech is in the Constitution. And this, I think this is, well, you know, people are, oh censorship! No, it's not censorship. They're not the government, none of that. But it is very telling as to where we're headed just in the free speech by moving it over to free expression. And then she had that line at the end there about your privacy. Yeah, I want all to be privacy. Oh really, Ellen? Predators, users, can be anonymous.

2:31:38 Doesn't that mean that someone who's contributing harassing material whom you speak with even can keep doing it under a variety of pseudonyms? We have ways of finding them and we have ways of looking for repeat behavior or we have ways of making you talk methods of coming to our site that can help us track down the anonymous users who may try to create fake accounts. Well, how is that privacy? We have ways of tracking you down. First a follow-up question, what about somebody using double VPNs? We have ways of getting to Tor exit points, it's not a problem, we have ways of finding them. Do whatever you're gonna do! I'm not scum like you! You go to your daddy Satan anytime you want, I'll never join you. You understand that filth? And there it goes. Now, I have one clip left. I have a couple clips left, but I only have one important clip.

2:32:35 And I didn't think it would get any worse, but I thought this was a great clip because it embodies two themes. It's a twofer. This is the FIFA it gets worse classic. I don't know if you've heard this before. FIFA. FIFA. FIFA. FIFA. FIFA. Yeah. I just said, wow. Ready? Yep. In the ongoing FIFA bribery scandal, former Vice President Jack Warner has been accused of diverting funds intended for victims of Haiti's earthquake. The 72 year old is alleged to have diverted $700,000.

2:33:19 $250,000 in emergency funds, funds that were donated by FIFA and the Korean Football Association for Haitian earthquake victims. According to a BBC report, Warner and several other FIFA officials have been charged with running a criminal enterprise. Well, I don't think I can top... Those guys are just rotting to the core. Yeah, I don't think I can top that, John. I think you got me on that one. Oh, okay. Wow. Yeah, we'll see what else comes out of that. I'm just scanning through the last things. Let's see, Tony Stark has filed to provide internet service from outer space.

2:34:10 Yeah, you would probably get the broadband subsidies for that. Well, let me play one more clip then. All right. So I'm watching this, I think CBS or it's one of the networks and there's this guy, the new correspondent, he's trying to make a name for himself and he's doing this report. And so they throw it to him. He looks just like a skinny version of the rock that the actor. Yeah. Yeah. The rock. Yeah. It was his name. Yeah. Rock. Did that movie do anything? Is this earthquake movie? I don't know. I haven't heard. It's probably flop. And here he is. So he finishes off his little intro and mispronounces the absolute last word he's got to say here. Investigators are following some 500 leads, including some new information, as you mentioned, that authorities are concerned those inmates may be headed towards Vermont. So tonight, officials are stepping up patrols, worried that these dangerous men are getting even more desperate.

2:35:05 I'm desperate. I tell you, that's where can I ask you, John, you're desperate. Yeah, that manhunt is... I don't know why I make these sorts of clips. It's just to ridicule. We ridicule. That's what we do on this show. We do that a lot. Yeah, we do. We do. We ridicule a lot. It's not the theme of the show. It's just something we do. Yeah, that whole manhunt thing is ridiculous. Oh, that... I didn't even want to get into it, but that's... Well, what... Those two guys... What they are doing is... And once again, citizens are all in. The cops... Actually, it's the DO... The Department of Correction cops. They're walking around telling me, hey, can we search your house? And people are like, sure, okay, come on in. Look at my house. Come on in. Yeah, they should say no. Yes, of course they should say no. But you know what you're going to get? Oh, you have something to hide? Oh, you got something to hide? Maybe we should have a car outside. Make sure that you got nothing to hide.

2:35:58 No, this is part of the problem with that. Yeah. And those guys are gone. They're they probably, you know, they're all thinking they're headed north because one of them has a relative in Buffalo. And I'm thinking these guys are smart enough to get out of that old prison. Yeah. Only people ever. They went straight down to Mississippi. Or, or, or, they'll be in one of those vacation houses and they can firebomb it like they did with that cop. That one guy. Yeah, that'd be cool. Burn him, burn him, burn him, kill him! Bomb him! Just quickly, F-Russia stuff. There are big anti-government protests in Ukraine, which is completely underreported. I didn't even have a clip.

2:36:43 And, you know, interestingly enough, we don't see Victoria Noodleman out there handing out bagels or cookies or whatever she was doing the last time. So I'm pretty sure regime change is on its way for Poroshenko. We've been following that. Part two of the story. Part two of the story. Also, the president signed a continuation of the national emergency for the most dangerous country. We have a national emergency. Is that us? No, hold on. Oops, I hit the wrong button here. Let me just see. He wrote it down. National continuation. So on June 16th, Executive Order 34... Okay. The President declared a national emergency pursuant to the International Economic Powers Act to deal with the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States constituted to the actions and policies of certain members of the government of, I'm not going to tell you yet, and other persons to undermine

2:37:42 the democratic process and institutions manifested in the fundamentally undemocratic March elections toward 2006 to commit human rights abuse. I mean, this is a horrible, horrible, horrible country. Can you guess what the country is? Scotland. Belarus. Belarus. And the only reason... We won't say anything about Kazakhstan or whatever that one really bad country is over there because we're in bed with them. The only reason for this is for Putin's pipeline. Oh, right. That's why Belarus is dangerous. Yeah. I'm always on the lookout for Belarusians to come by and, you know, throw rocks at the house. And then, and this will be my last bit, continuing in your initial analysis of the macaroni and cheese,

2:38:30 which of course is shepherds in the second great depression. Depression food. Depression food. There was a mac and cheese festival. Yeah. Did they have bands? Well, it was in Toronto and headline, how mac and cheese destroyed a Toronto neighborhood. Oh. Yes. On Sunday, residents of the quiet Toronto neighborhood of Liberty Village woke up to an apocalyptic scene. Piles of trash were strewn about with an unsettling cheddar-y smell to the air. But Liberty Village wasn't looted, nor was it the site of an attack by some paramilitary dairymen. Instead, it was struck by Canadians' savage, insatiable craving for mac and cheese. So the problem started on Friday. They thought 5,000 people would show up.

2:39:31 But apparently the the depression is so large and so close up so close upon us 46,000 people showed up. That's there you go. There's your viral invite and Yes, the event brought together 23 chefs from across the city to pit their best mac and cheese dishes against one another to be judged by the public for a grand prize of $5,000 apparently the public is more than willing to do so according to some reports garbage is Half-eaten remains of cheese and macaroni littered the streets vomit. Yeah, vomit everywhere Mac and cheese vomit the worst Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand is this a fact is is mac and cheese vomit worse than any other type of vomit? Think about it. All right, I think that I think I think we're done. Okay, I think so too. Yeah, I think so too. All right.

2:40:32 That was fun. Thanks for that melodrama, John. Good work on that. I really appreciated that. It was good work. Had to cut it down somehow. Yeah, well, you rockin' it. Okay, everybody. I'm off. I'll be making a beeline for Irving, Texas. Irving, Texas. How far a drive is that? Probably three and a half hours. Yeah, maybe Yeah, three and a half hours. I think kind of be a Sunday's good time to take a drive to Texas It's a great time to take a drive Alrighty you ain't working on anything for Sunday that you know of anything special Not no no nothing actually that I can think of I'm gonna go watch television and find something to work on good. Oh

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