Episode 726 · Sunday, 31 May 2015

Weather Whiplash

Catastrophic Texas flooding sparks a new climate change lexicon as political scandals engulf FIFA leadership and a former Speaker of the House.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 55m listen | 46 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 726

About this episode

Central Texas faces a catastrophic death toll of 27 people following record-breaking floods that sent a 48-foot wall of water through Wimberley. Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick describes the total destruction of homes built on 40-foot cliffs as rescue crews struggle with seven inches of rain in two hours. Media outlets and University of Texas scientists are now deploying the term weather whiplash to link these rapid shifts from drought to deluge directly to man-made climate change models.

Bill Nye defends his engineering credentials on CNN while labeling Senator Ted Cruz a documented denier during the 2015 hurricane season. At the University of Colorado, NASA scientist Michelle Thaller and professor Richard Alley argue that science denial is fueled by religious bigotry and corporate profiteering. Meanwhile, the Department of Justice indicts former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert for evading bank regulations through illegal structuring. FIFA President Sepp Blatter secures re-election despite a massive corruption probe involving FBI Director James Comey and major banks like HSBC.

NASA's Michelle Thaller reveals her penchant for Elizabethan cosplay at the Santa Barbara Renaissance Fair between discussions on carbon isotopes. Royal Navy whistleblower William McNeely exposes security lapses on Trident nuclear submarines where missile compartments were allegedly converted into weight rooms. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the discrepancy between official CPI data and the soaring real-world costs of Boeing 747s and luxury wines.


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CHAPTER 01 / 46 Discussion

Central Texas Flooding, Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick Interview

Central Texas experienced catastrophic flooding in May 2015, resulting in a death toll of 27 people. Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick described the devastation in Wimberley, where a 48-foot wall of water destroyed homes built on 40-foot cliffs. Rescue crews responded to over 250 calls for help as torrential downpours dumped seven inches of rain in two hours.

central texas· wimberley· dan patrick· flooding· disaster relief

00:00 The? No, that's not him. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah It's Sunday May 31st 2015 time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 726 This is no agenda Has it been 40 days and 40 nights yet? Building an arc, and broadcasting live from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And for Northern Silicon Valley where it's not raining, I'm John C. DuBois. You want to start with a little rundown on the rain? I do have a clip

00:36 Yeah, rundown on the rain. Is it called run down on the rain or Texas flood reporting? That would be it more thunderstorms meant even more flooding in Central Texas today as the death toll from storms over the last week rose to 27 Torrential downpours dumped as much as seven inches of rain and the Dallas Fort Worth area overnight Drivers were stranded for hours as water covered highways and submerged cars Rescue crews responded to more than 250 calls for help. More on this, Hari Sreenivasan spoke earlier with Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick who recently toured the hard-hit community of Wimberley. Lieutenant Governor you've had a chance over the past 24 hours to see some of the devastation on the ground and from the air describe it to some folks in the rest of the country who might just be seeing these images for the first time

01:29 You know, Harry we've been in legislative session for the last five months so yesterday was the first day I was able to get down to the Wimberley area and the pictures do not describe it. I want to give you this example. I was standing in front of a cliff that was about 40 feet high that would be equivalent to a three- to four-story building. The water is normally three foot deep When that flood water hit those homes, that water was as high as 48 feet. It took out homes on top of 40 foot cliffs. It's unimaginable. Trees down everywhere down the entire river, trees had stood for 600 years, hundreds of homes and most importantly the loss of life 12

02:12 missing or lost. One body was found 34 miles downstream if you can imagine the one home that was taken down Hari where we lost eight people they were still missing a few bodies have been recovered it was on stilts about 30 feet high and the water just rushed down like a tsunami, a 40 foot 48 foot wall of water after dark on Saturday night in an area that has had flooding but nothing even close to this Oh, that's... Yeah. It's good trivialize this story sitting there. Well I'm here as I am allowed to it's like being black you can say all kinds of things you know? Now now i heard what he goes on and on and on I just had to cut it there but he mentions that his I forgot what area they were was 14 inches of rain in two hours. It has been crazy

CHAPTER 02 / 46 Discussion

Weather Whiplash, Climate Change Variability Claims

Media outlets and scientists from the University of Texas are utilizing the term "weather whiplash" to describe the rapid transition from extreme drought to crippling floods in Texas. Claims suggest that climate change is "stretching out variability" to explain wild weather swings that do not fit traditional models. Critics argue this terminology is a way to attribute all weather events to man-made climate change.

weather whiplash· climate change· university of texas· drought· variability

03:04 Okay, I have a much longer Agenda 21 climate change segment but from that just for this opening I'll play a couple of even stupider clips because of course I've been monitoring everything about my own hometown. They call it weather whiplash! Need I play more? They call it weather... You haven't heard that one. They call it weather whiplash That's great. In Wichita Falls, Texas it felt like the drought ended overnight. In just three weeks much of the state has gone from extreme drought to crippling flood Lakes are fuller than they've been in five years This was Lake Wichita just a few months ago here It is again today scientists say climate change is exacerbating the wild swings These swings are getting wilder

04:03 Climate change is stretching out our variability. Yeah, there you go climate Change is stretching out I thought climate change wasn't weather listen to what she says this is a UT person climate changes Stretching out our variability Whatever that means what? She's saying she's stretching out are very ability because they can't explain it It doesn't fit with the whole model so we have to say that changes stretching out of variability yeah Yeah, yeah. Climate change is stretching out our variability. Well let's go to the NBC report then might as well. They call it... Oh I'm sorry you already did that one. By the way should mention that the News Hour did not mention climate change at all. Well shall we just go into and get it over with because I got a number of clips here? Go on. Oh might as well! With the president with his speech for the Coast Guard

CHAPTER 03 / 46 Discussion

Bill Nye, Climate Change Politics on CNN and MSNBC

Bill Nye appeared on CNN and MSNBC to advocate for climate change action, comparing climate change denial to denying the link between cigarettes and cancer. Nye argued that 97% of scientists agree on man-made global warming and urged voters to consider the scientific views of congressional candidates. Host Ed Schultz framed the Texas flooding as an event linked to climate extremes that should be part of the political conversation.

bill nye· cnn· msnbc· ed schultz· climate change

04:58 with, I know we've just noticed all of this stuff kind of you know. This is the time once again to be talking about climate change when you can talk about climate. I'm all for climate change just i'm not so sure about the man-made climate change but the guy who has now been crowned by the president himself as the rainmaker so to speak is Bill Nye the climate guy and he is everywhere and he's got his message and he's just... He says he's not gonna stop He is not going to stop. So let me play CNN from this morning. Bill Nye the science guy is here ready to fight the haters and... Fight the haters! Before we begin I just want to say 97... It's important to... Is he on a forum or something? What, is he online as such? Well, well.... I am going to take this somewhere

05:48 Because this is something that you and I identified early on, and we've predicted it's going to happen. It is moving in that direction. So first... I will say this. You are now the official... your beat is Bill Nye! I see that's the funny thing about this you run into him all the time and i haven't run into him for months. He has a very interesting message, part of his message is... I'm sorry? Am I getting minimum? minimum. Yeah, that's his message. Oh, am I getting scale? Scale yeah, I'm getting scale! Okay so he has a message and he has an parallel analogy that is trying to ram into your heads and make that comparable to man-made climate change but another part of the message which is it's well...it's kind of laughed off and subtle but it could come back in this other C-SPAN thing I watched is the haters and how

06:48 Haters gotta hate! That's right, haters are hating on the messenger. Bill Nye the science guy is here ready to fight the haters and before we begin I just want to say 97% of scientists say climate change is real Great And much of it is driven by man so Can we stop with the man thing? People, I said people Why not a wo-man? Men and women. Let's go on, you tweet about climate change after extreme weather events all the time and each time it makes climate change deniers freak out. Freak out! Is this your strategy? Well I just want to remind voters that suppose you had... Now notice immediately his mission is to politicize it

07:35 Which is what every- oh no, there's politics and there's the real science. Here's the science guy! The first words out of his mouth are about politics. It's... Suppose you had somebody running for congressional office in your district who insisted that there was no connection between cigarette smoking and cancer Would you vote for that person? I mean, you might But if this person were adamant, no the scientists who studied cigarette smoking can't they they don't know what that if they were adamant Would you vote for him? And so in the same way the connection between climate change and human activity is at least as strong as cigarettes and cancer Hmm. It's hard to argue that No, it's not Of course, he's not talking about well This is his message and we're gonna hear a longer piece now again the same format with

08:27 The science, well not the science yet but the climate change deniers. They're going berserk about trying to shoot the messenger and Bill Nye now on MSNBC with who's the guy with a big head? Ed! Ed with a big head. Parts of central Texas are getting hit with another round of heavy rain floodwaters and submerging highways are threatening more homes At least 21 people have been killed and 14 are missing in the state. Earlier this week, Bill Nye, the science guy sent out this tweet. Can you believe... Just think about what's being said here? Yes I think it is something so ludicrous about a cartoon character as the spokesman he is not Bill Nye expert and blah blah no its bill nye the science guy send out a twit

CHAPTER 04 / 46 Discussion

Bill Nye Twitter Controversy, Ted Cruz Climate Denial

Bill Nye faced criticism for a tweet claiming that no weathercaster may utter the phrase "climate change" during the Texas and Oklahoma floods. Critics pointed out that local weathercasters were indeed mentioning climate change, making Nye's claim factually incorrect. The discussion highlights the labeling of Senator Ted Cruz as a "documented denier" and the increasing politicization of extreme weather events.

bill nye· twitter· ted cruz· climate denier· weathercasters

09:18 This whole report is fantastic. So the cartoon guy sent out a tweet, he will qualify his credentials in this piece. With another round of heavy rain floodwaters and submerging highways are threatening more homes at least 21 people have been killed and 14 are missing. Now listen to his tweet what does tweet actually say? In the state earlier this week Bill Nye The Science Guy sent out this tweet Billions in damage in Texas and Oklahoma still no weathercaster may utter the phrase climate change. Many conservative climate change deniers went berserk over his post. Berserk, just crazy insane! They were shooting up entire malls. Documented denier Senator Ted Cruz of Texas That's a good one by the way. Documented Denyer I want that on my business card

10:11 documented denier. Has not commented on the storms linked to climate change however the Republican presidential hopeful did send his support to the families in Texas what's important here is Bill Nye never suggested that flooding was caused by global warming now let's stop there for a second can I just stop you know the whole report right now yeah of course because I want clarification I've got Bill Nye's Twitter thing up. The guy very rarely, he tweets like every couple of days. He's not a Twitter guy. Somebody else probably put this up for him. He's more an Instagram dude. Billions in damage in Texas and Oklahoma still no weather catch... Now at the very beginning of this report that you're putting together, You played what sounded to me like a local weathercaster? Yes Was that what it was? Yeah about the weather whiplash yeah And she went on and on about climate change

11:01 Well, then how does this make any sense? Billions in damage and still no weathercaster may utter the phrase climate change. I believe she said it twice at least maybe three times more interesting So this is a lie. This comment from him and this comment from Schwartz it's just a lie Ed with the big head is now even funnier will Now say that his tweet didn't even claim whether was caused by climate change when you read that tweet What does it mean to you Read it again.

11:46 global warming he simply pointed out climate change which ex- hold on let me roll it back a little further you can hear Ed say it perfectly presidential hopeful did send his support to the families in Texas what's important here is bill 9 never suggested the flooding was caused by global warming he simply pointed out climate change which experts say is exacerbating whether extreme events like this should be part of the conversation Is that how you interpret the tweet? No. Bill Nye joins us tonight here on The Ed Show. Hey! And he has this shit-eating grin on his face He's totally horny for himself I know how, i've seen this happen to people Well let me read you another tweet from his most recent tweet Bill Nye on Twitter Bonding over Jay Z with my new friend J Pharaoh tonight He's off the rails

12:40 He's off the rails. You know, if they're going to find him with Richard Quest with their nuts bound together with dildos in their boots and meth in their pockets at Washington Square Park... I'm telling you the guy is off the rails! Someone's gonna get a hold of him and it won't end well for him. Appreciate your time What do what would like to say all those conservatives who have blasted you for your tweet and analysis on this? Well, as I say shooting the messenger isn't going to help you on climate change. Here's what though... Would you vote for someone? I want conservatives- Again going straight to politics because he is here not a scientist, he is here as a political operative And Ed we need conservatives! We can have just one side running the show and nobody's... You gotta have give and take

13:27 And clear division. Completely clear division, everything on that side is crazy denier. Just ask yourself if you're a conservative voter if somebody like Mr Cruz insisted that there was no connection at all between cigarette smoking and cancer... And there he is again! and was just adamant about it. Would you vote for that person? Would you think that he or she has good judgment, and I submit you probably wouldn't. And so the connection between climate change and human activity is established at least as well as cancer and cigarettes So let's get on with it They are out attacking you because of a weather event

14:07 that is really in parallel with the science and other events that have taken human life in America. Weather extremes! This could be the future... This could be the future, oh yes! It's coming up because now you're going to hear how this science guy kind of falls apart it's on its way. ...every year or every other year every five years if you're in a seawall business this is gonna be great for decades so This would be time to act. And the other thing, Ed I talk about all the time is very important to me. I was born in the US... Listen he's a patriot now we need the patriotic music Oh! I'm saluting you Bill Nye

CHAPTER 05 / 46 Discussion

Bill Nye Engineering Credentials, Hurricane Season Predictions

Bill Nye defended his expertise by citing his U.S. engineering license and physics background while discussing the 2015 hurricane season. Nye explained that while El Niño conditions suggest strong hurricanes, phenomena like "decapitated" storms off the coast of Africa make predictions difficult. He maintained that 2014 being the warmest year on record is a direct result of human activity.

bill nye· engineering· hurricane season· el nino· science communicator

13:27 And clear division. Completely clear division, everything on that side is crazy denier. Just ask yourself if you're a conservative voter if somebody like Mr Cruz insisted that there was no connection at all between cigarette smoking and cancer... And there he is again! and was just adamant about it. Would you vote for that person? Would you think that he or she has good judgment, and I submit you probably wouldn't. And so the connection between climate change and human activity is established at least as well as cancer and cigarettes So let's get on with it They are out attacking you because of a weather event

14:07 that is really in parallel with the science and other events that have taken human life in America. Weather extremes! This could be the future... This could be the future, oh yes! It's coming up because now you're going to hear how this science guy kind of falls apart it's on its way. ...every year or every other year every five years if you're in a seawall business this is gonna be great for decades so This would be time to act. And the other thing, Ed I talk about all the time is very important to me. I was born in the US... Listen he's a patriot now we need the patriotic music Oh! I'm saluting you Bill Nye

14:47 I got my engineering degree in the US. I have a license, an engineering license in the US. I took a lot of physics in the U.S.. Hey man! I took a lot of physics. In the U.S.? In the U.S., so I know what I'm talking about right? Uh...I want the U.S to lead. I want the United States to be world leader in things that we need to do to address climate change. Yes now let's get to the hurricanes People criticize me for this. Okay, the climate is still changing as we say science is true whether you believe it or not. Now Monday is the start of the 2015 hurricane season. Do you expect this to be...

15:24 already being very careful. Well, officially... Hurricanes don't read calendars! Okay? Go ahead, sorry. Sorry. So on the calendar it's there. Do you expect this to be an exceptionally rough one? John what could the answer be?! Well, from years past it would have to be one of the worst in history. And so far that hasn't really panned out but they're so good at predicting everything you know weather extremes but when it comes to the hurricanes... Did anyone predict this was gonna happen to Texas? You know that's a very good question We should sue them.

16:17 Hold on climate change with that said oh, we're that's it you we expect hurricanes to be stronger now There's another phenomenon where the hurricanes get decapitated I've been waiting for the explanation why we haven't had the big hurricane season John. Oh here We go its the decapitation its isis beheading the hurricane we expect hurricanes to be stronger now There's another phenomenon where the Hurricanes get decapitated capitated essentially off the east coast of Africa, off the west coast of Africa. And so they don't get as strong and these things are very difficult to predict however an El Nino seems to be developing so you'd expect strong hurricanes but either way it's a very...the chances of rough weather are much higher than not. 2014 was the warmest year on record

17:06 It's not a coincidence. That's human activity 97% of the scientists in the world are on their talking point so the people on the other side Are really not? They're closing their eyes to a situation they do not wish to acknowledge Okay, so he can't predict it And he's not going to make any predictions because he knows that He has no clue now this all leads to something that we have identified before I'm sorry okay. I just have one more thing sure sure sure This is an interlude here sir I've got his Twitter feed up still. I just want to read a tweet. Yeah, okay good Now he tweeted on May 16th and the couple days went by and throws in another tweet out of the blue And this is the tweet All the cool kids are following at POTUS He's trying to change the world with tweets Really? How cool is that? DOOSHBANG! He should have flown in there Amen fist bump Hey Bill amen fist bump

CHAPTER 06 / 46 Discussion

Science Denial Panel, University of Colorado Discussion

A panel at the University of Colorado, aired on C-SPAN, explored the concept of "science denial" as a political and religious issue. Moderator Blumenthal argued that established scientific facts are being undermined by individuals with financial interests or religious beliefs. The panel framed the rejection of scientific consensus as a threat to public policy and truth.

science denial· university of colorado· religion· politics· c-span

18:05 So, this leads to...we've already heard this. So it went from global warming, Mammon Global Warming, to Mammon Climate Change, to climate change, to climate denial and now science denial. And this is one of...this is being picked up in a big way because it truly is a war on religion now. The Constitution is very clear about you believing in anything. You want to believe in apostropharians, you wanna be Catholic, you wanna be Jewish, you wanna be Muslim... whatever it is! That's your right. And it's kind of mind-boggling to me, the...and you're going to hear some this real attacks on Christianity and all different versions of it or whatever is being called a certain version of it and on the other hand, well just don't piss off the Muslims when they want, don't draw cartoons so my brain almost can't handle

19:04 the inconsistency of it. And I found...it took place on April 8th, but it aired last night on C-SPAN as I was flipping through and it was at the University of Colorado a panel on science denial—science denial! Not climate denial, science denial—and I pulled a number of clips from it and pretty much no one...well there's One climate scientist on the panel, and let's see. The first one... This is Blumenthal he works at the University of Colorado and He's moderating the panel He's a molecular scientist so not a climate scientist And here's his short little intro to this panel All right Let's get started

19:52 First of all may I remind you to please turn off the sound on your cell phones? I just put this in for effect. You can hear what kind of please turn it off If you haven't done that already, this is Wednesday April 8th at 1030 panel number 3263. Oh, anti-science denial in the face of facts. You stepped on the entire title. Don't step on it. Sorry don't step on the title. Don't step on it. There's going to be a lot of fun things here. Denial in the face of facts. I asked for a science panel, and got an anti-science panel.

20:45 how anti-religion these people are. I want you all to try to imagine a world where established scientific facts were accepted because they were established scientific facts, where nobody was deliberately seeking to undermine the public's acceptance of these facts just because they stood to gain financially or by raising doubts about the facts because they seemed at odds with their religious beliefs Huge numbers of Americans simply don't believe facts. People believing in the truth matters a lot, not because it affects the truth but because whether or not we act based on truth or fiction matters a lot This isn't a scientific issue It's a political one Yes well that's very obvious and is becoming a religious one which ties in closely to politics certainly in the United States

CHAPTER 07 / 46 Discussion

Michelle Thaller, NASA Science Communication and Storytelling

Michelle Thaller of NASA's Goddard Institute discussed the challenges of communicating scientific data to a public that may be skeptical of facts. Thaller noted that providing more data on ocean acidification or carbon isotopes is often ineffective, leading scientists to rely on "storytelling" and emotional engagement. She addressed public fears regarding the 2012 apocalypse and clarified that NASA does not hide astronomical facts.

michelle thaller· nasa· goddard institute· science communication· storytelling

21:40 Now, next on the panel. Michelle Thaller she is from NASA's Goddard Institute very interesting woman this and she does a lot of... She's kind of I think she feels like she may be a female Neil deGrasse Tyson in a way? She's good speaker. She does stuff with Discovery Channel I think. She's an expert as asked on all the time but she's kinda cute! Lotta hair which is constantly brushing back Some kind of signal, but she's one of these people has short arms that are too short for a body. You know this club Yeah, a lot of the too short for the body... I don't know how women get that way but most of the guys you'll see a bunch like these stocky guys and they got these really short little arms it's because they exercised with heavy weights to early in their growth when there were like pre-teens. It screws up your... it keeps your arm from growing to normal length. I thought it was just a club? A breed, a clan

22:40 Yeah, you'd think so. And I just pulled...so everyone did a little bit of intro and here's her intro Good morning. You know, it's one of the gaps in my training as a scientist... I already want to kick you! I can't help it just the way you're talking That uh..I'm finding myself in this sort of social situation as science communicator Science communicator and documented denier Where I am dealing with this odd cadence Of people insisting that something that is false is true And something that is true is false That would be us John He's talking directly to you and I This actually going on right now at this moment But the idea that... Yes, as we speak. That the false is true? That for example NASA could be hiding something from you You know I want the month of my life back that 2012 apocalypse was because I was getting calls from people who were frightened

23:30 And they were afraid the world really was coming to an end. Now this is important what she's doing, remember this is about science denial go straight into religion and of course the 2012 Armageddon you know she's highlighting a small fringe of dudes walking around with signs You know on the hall We also ridiculed them just as well as we ridicule her Of course And then there would be some people that would say okay I bet the world isn't coming to an end but where can I go see this wonderful astronomical conjunction happen? And the difficult thing to tell them was that there was nothing astronomically interesting happening on that date. This whole this thing was whole cloth made up now a whole cloth made up. Is that a religious reference? Whole cloth Oh cloth or is that what is it where does that come from I've only heard that in the In the world of writing and journalism personally Where you say whole cloth refers to your printable thing, I just wonder where were the cloth part comes from whole cloth The chat room could help out of the whole cloth here it is

24:32 Uh, yeah someone's gonna have to look that up for us. Let's continue. And you know people often ask me are you allowed to say this as a NASA scientist? and the answer is absolutely yes because these are the facts. Ah! Facts. She has the facts The idea...the attack on what a scientist is Remember now your hearing something so we had Bill Nye, The Haters You see the pattern forming here Bill nye the haters getting all over him trying to shoot the messenger now We're attacking scientists and you're gonna find out we're attacking science because they're crazy religious nutjobs is You know are we not allowed to be human? Am I not allowed to go on television which I have done and say, I'm scared And I've done it very well. You know it's it's not that you know I give me this woman's name again Yeah

25:21 Michelle Fowler, T-H-A L-L E-R. I'm going to tell you what to do but i can tell you my emotional response and it's become very apparent to NASA scientists that just delivering more and more data about okay well we've got the acidification of the oceans! I can show you that the isotopic ratio of a carbon dioxide proves its human activity that is doing this. I can tell you it's not the sun because we've been studying the Sun very closely for 30 years Wow for thirty whole years have ya? So all of these 30 years what yeah, it's not the Sun warming is not from the Sun. Why don't you? Know there's no chance of that and I'm up thirty years proves it why didn't you remove son from the equation see how warm your for thirty years so All of these all of these data are not helping in the debate No And so instead we're trying to draw back into our skills as storytellers

26:11 Okay, now this is very important. Now she is a science communicator and she's... Yes by the way that is code in that world for PR girl. Yeah! Yes yes and the PR girl says that the data is no longer working people don't believe the data so now they have to resort to what scientists do best which apparently is storytelling? What happened to facts? The debate So instead we're trying to draw back into our skills as storytellers and as people And it's emotional human being else trying to tell this story. Okay, story Story a story okay now with ice fiction now We move over to the one climate was a geoscience professor from Penn State

CHAPTER 08 / 46 Discussion

Richard Alley, Evolution and Climate Change Hostility

Geoscience professor Richard Alley from Penn State shared his experiences with hostility from the public regarding his work on climate change and evolution. Alley noted that while evolution skeptics are often polite, climate change critics frequently send aggressive emails. He argued that "media bubbles" are scrubbing reality and preventing the public from accepting scientific consensus.

richard alley· penn state· evolution· climate change· media bubbles

26:58 He is Richard Alley. Stop, stop again! I hate to keep you up in the rush... No it's okay! ...questions keep coming to mind. Bruce Gingrich, the guy with a little voice that started at the beginning? Didn't he say that everybody on the panel was a bunch of attackers science deniers? No, that's not what he said no his he wanted it implied that now he said His implication was I wanted a science panel but i got a panel about anti-science So the topic, he wanted a topic to be about science. He got a topic that is about people who are anti-science. These people these science communicators are very much all on board

27:39 Yeah, okay. Okay so here... I'm sorry for the interruption. No please feel free that always makes the program better no i'm a climate scientist so i am one of the people who have gotten the occasional email that says you are an evil liar uh i am trying to get you fired i hate you i'm going to watch you i know where you are I've also waded into the evolution issues and I have editorialized on that. And the people who do not want to see evolution taught tend to be much nicer to me. It sounds like he's trying to pinch a loaf! By the way, I gotta drop in this little gem on this woman... Okay

28:19 She's one of these. It talks about her being married and during her years in Pasadena, she was a regular participant in the summer Santa Barbara Renaissance Fair. That's the thing that I keep getting invited to! She is... well you've ever been to one? Of course not! You're crazy not to go. First of all, it's not like free you have to pay for everything they're not inviting that sending a plane ticket if somebody would actually have that on their wiki page That means that she dresses up She cosplay is let's use a modern term explain cosplay Cosplay is this thing? I don't know when it began I think I just tracked it maybe starting about a year and a half ago Cosplay is very popular amongst certain groups of Millennials

29:04 And it is dressing up into really elaborate costumes, cosplay and going to events where other cosplayers are there. Comic-Con has become a cosplay mecca. To the extreme yes! I know what you're talking about because the invitation is always very high grade almost like a wedding invitation And I think it's women wear hats and men, you know, in white gloves. Is that kind of the cosplay we're talking about here? No, not even close. That's what...that's the impression I always got she looks like she could be wearing a white glove. In the Renaissance fair for example if you were a cosplayer and you go there and would brag about this means she does this. She does what i'm about to describe but this is not a renaissance. Sorry? I don't believe we're talking about the same thing

29:52 I think this Renaissance Santa Barbara thing is not a renaissance fair. It's a group of left-wing people who come together and try to solve all the problems of the world That's what i've been invited for, I'm talking about something else No way because that's a renaissance fair with an e on the end as a trademark This is even crazier so she goes to renaissance fairs as a wench? Exactly. Ah, nice! You wear the outfits from the era as best you can if you're really good and a lot of steampunk stuff comes from this people will be all dressed up in these wild wild outfits that cost a lot of money and heavy makeup any hair and all the whole thing Oh my god John you have to search for Michelle Fowler Renaissance

30:35 To see her costumes. Now, I would say... and you have to top that-I'm gonna finish the discussion before i do that. You top it off by speaking in a phony baloney old fashioned what would be perceived as an early British voice. Dough protestas! Aye mighty! And you just sound like you roam around into that role and hold it for the entire event. Outstanding So that's what we're dealing with here. This is a scientist, ooh! We should pay very careful attention to her." Well this guy as well because of his voice mainly but just what he says... He's cracking out the anti-religion right off the bat. The people who do not want to see evolution taught tend to be much nicer to me than the people who do not want to see climate change thought.

31:26 You religious people are crazy. Right? And so in some very real sense that we can go into our media bubble, or we can go into our cultural bubble and we can stay there and then some very real sense these media bubbles are scrubbing reality. Scrubbing reality! They all have this idea that somehow there's just so much money flowing into climate change denialism Which is ludicrous! Look at the numbers. The numbers are off the chart on the other side. It's $22 billion from, you know... ...from the government alone into research for this. Yeah there's no end to it. Insane. This is bullcrap. But these are- That sounds good though. Oh those evil oil companies Okay now a somewhat longer clip but and I cut out all kinds of stuff Every single time I think oh this isn't enough The guy goes on again

CHAPTER 09 / 46 Discussion

Michelle Thaller Renaissance Fair Tangent

A discussion of Michelle Thaller's personal interests reveals her participation in the Santa Barbara Renaissance Fair. The hosts describe her involvement in cosplay and the elaborate Victorian or Elizabethan costumes she wears at these events. This hobby is contrasted with her professional role as a NASA scientist.

michelle thaller· renaissance fair· cosplay· steampunk· santa barbara

28:19 She's one of these. It talks about her being married and during her years in Pasadena, she was a regular participant in the summer Santa Barbara Renaissance Fair. That's the thing that I keep getting invited to! She is... well you've ever been to one? Of course not! You're crazy not to go. First of all, it's not like free you have to pay for everything they're not inviting that sending a plane ticket if somebody would actually have that on their wiki page That means that she dresses up She cosplay is let's use a modern term explain cosplay Cosplay is this thing? I don't know when it began I think I just tracked it maybe starting about a year and a half ago Cosplay is very popular amongst certain groups of Millennials

29:04 And it is dressing up into really elaborate costumes, cosplay and going to events where other cosplayers are there. Comic-Con has become a cosplay mecca. To the extreme yes! I know what you're talking about because the invitation is always very high grade almost like a wedding invitation And I think it's women wear hats and men, you know, in white gloves. Is that kind of the cosplay we're talking about here? No, not even close. That's what...that's the impression I always got she looks like she could be wearing a white glove. In the Renaissance fair for example if you were a cosplayer and you go there and would brag about this means she does this. She does what i'm about to describe but this is not a renaissance. Sorry? I don't believe we're talking about the same thing

29:52 I think this Renaissance Santa Barbara thing is not a renaissance fair. It's a group of left-wing people who come together and try to solve all the problems of the world That's what i've been invited for, I'm talking about something else No way because that's a renaissance fair with an e on the end as a trademark This is even crazier so she goes to renaissance fairs as a wench? Exactly. Ah, nice! You wear the outfits from the era as best you can if you're really good and a lot of steampunk stuff comes from this people will be all dressed up in these wild wild outfits that cost a lot of money and heavy makeup any hair and all the whole thing Oh my god John you have to search for Michelle Fowler Renaissance

30:35 To see her costumes. Now, I would say... and you have to top that-I'm gonna finish the discussion before i do that. You top it off by speaking in a phony baloney old fashioned what would be perceived as an early British voice. Dough protestas! Aye mighty! And you just sound like you roam around into that role and hold it for the entire event. Outstanding So that's what we're dealing with here. This is a scientist, ooh! We should pay very careful attention to her." Well this guy as well because of his voice mainly but just what he says... He's cracking out the anti-religion right off the bat. The people who do not want to see evolution taught tend to be much nicer to me than the people who do not want to see climate change thought.

CHAPTER 10 / 46 Discussion

Chip Berlet, Right-Wing Social Movements and Satanism Claims

Writer Chip Berlet presented a haiku on climate change and discussed his research into right-wing social movements. Berlet claimed that a segment of the Republican base has been groomed since the 1800s to reject science, collectivism, and big government. He further alleged that some fundamentalists view climate scientists as "agents of Satan" as part of an apocalyptic worldview.

chip berlet· collectivism· satanism· republicans· conspiracy theory

32:23 You may know him, Chip Burlett. He's a writer, and I believe he has also worked at a think tank for many years which sole purpose is to figure out ways to first discover why Republicans are crazy and then figure out ways to make them uncrazy. And he's written the book about you know the crazy right in America that's not the title...and he starts off his introduction with this. Haiku for climate change reality bites As sea levels keep rising, water nips our feet. That's not a haiku! I'll tell you why it's not a haiku people should look this up and look into haikus is more than just the number of words all put together there has to be a...the last line has to be kind of dissociated that particular line isn't

33:23 Anyway, I'm sorry. I need to listen to it again haiku based on that sort of thesis But that's even be even Haiku Herman does a better job Okay now I must have you once more I'm looking at one of the Michelle Fowler pictures. I know of her in she's wearing, I would say a thousand dollar Elizabethan not Elizabethan but Victorian out with it with the collar with the foot that rock which it must cost a fortune that crazy color you see In the old pictures of Elizabeth the first mm-hmm yeah off with their heads. I'm sure she stands off with your head

34:10 Alright, now this guy is clearly a driver of the story. This Mr. Haiku Guy Let's play the haiku one more time just to... I need the irritation. That's pretty much all i need here before going to bed. And then I cut out all the smirking and laughing Now Okay, we're just going to play it and we will have to stop from time-to-time. And this is the final clip in this series but again I encourage everyone to see this because to go to science denial based purely on an opposing view of manmade climate change which i still think we should stay with global warming but now they're just...it's really an addition of all this stuff um and to make

35:04 So political by saying it's religious people, they're crazy and they're all Republicans. If you have authority figures there has to be a mass base that listens to the authority figures. I think the guy is gay And i'm going to argue that um...the mass base um, has been groomed since the late 1800s to reject science. To reject what they call collectivism and reject big government all of which is evidence of... What? Yeah! Connect those three Wait for it you wanna- you wanna let's just listen when you're ready jump in when your ready Um that climate scientists are all agents of Satan What?! Yeah but climate scientists are all agents of Satan

35:46 Remember, this has gone from the haters with Bill Nye... Oh hold on a second. To Satanism? No the yes no these climate scientists are all agents of Satan according to crazy religious people who are Republicans. ... collectivism and reject big government all of which is evidence that climate scientists are all agents of Satan. A lot of love, okay? You can get over it. Yeah we'll get over it So... It all starts with evolution the big lie of science Could you be more polarizing please

CHAPTER 11 / 46 Discussion

Religious Bigotry Allegations, Science as New Religion

The hosts criticize Chip Berlet's C-SPAN appearance, labeling him a bigot for his characterization of religious Republicans. The discussion explores the idea that proponents of climate science are attempting to turn science into a new religion while discrediting traditional biblical understandings. The hosts defend religious listeners against the panel's claims that faith is inherently anti-science.

bigotry· religion· christianity· science· c-span

36:25 And the Catholic Church and most mainstream Protestant denominations reach an accommodation with science simply by saying, it wasn't God clever. And one of the fundamentals is that science is a lie Is this true? No I don't think so either Not in any religion I've ever studied or been part of I have never seen this, I've never been taught this And I you know what? I'm sorry. This is a classic example of somebody It's so out of the mainstream that and I guess they just talk amongst themselves and make shit up well, he really tries to go into the history of it all because if You believe the science of evolution you are rejecting God now if here this So now we're back that fundamental true either there's not a there's nobody would agree with that

37:16 This guy, let me put it as simply as I can. This guy is an out and out bigot! He's the worst kind of person in the world he shouldn't even be on C-SPAN. Why is C-SPAN even airing this? Why is it at the University of Colorado? And please let's throw in some conspiracy theorists. Let's just bundle it all together. Conspiracy theorist crazy religious nutjobs Republicans All of them are gonna kill us. They are going to kill us! We're all gonna die!!! If you're a Bible-believing literalist and God is a very centered part of your life, this is not something you just brush aside It becomes ingrained in your worldview through the doctrine of your religious ideology or theology Okay let's

38:07 Let's go through a little roots of this. So how does this involve in corporations today who are funding science deniers to go on TV and say things? What?! This is so... Who is doing this? Cite something, you asshole! Oh well do you know who's doing it? KOOK BROTHER!!! Apparently I'd like my payment. It was where's my check coke so in the 1800s its evolution in the late 1890s it's laborers don't even support our show So listen now he's gonna bring in this is really genius with this guy does and John they all trust

38:49 truly believe what they're saying. Even though if you read the IPCC report, it's really only 97% of scientists who wrote an opinion about it all and then they say...and if you read the report is pretty likely, pretty darn likely, gee I think it's extremely likely And it's predictions based on computer models. So fact, no the facts are not panning out and say things so in the 1800s its evolution in the late 1890s its labor unions in the 1920s its Bolsheviks and anarchists which give us the pomerades and Sacco and Vincitti 35 to 45 Roosevelt and a massive corporate funding of anti-big government, anti labor union, anti collectivist organizing around the country. One of the most massive propaganda campaigns ever launched in the United States In the 1950's we have The Red Scare against godless communism. You hear where he is going with this?

39:44 So if you want to be a lover of the earth and a lover of people... You're sure way off on the Franklin Roosevelt analysis. He's just throwing together what he, this guy is horrible! Yeah that's why we need to listen more of him it's no pain no gain John Let's not forget godless communism Godless And in the 1970s we have the Christian right which a number of scholars of religion points out When you have the collapse of the Soviet Union, what happens is that the scary threat becomes internal. There are internal subversives just like in the Red Square...Red Scare and and the internal subversive now... The collapse of communism didn't take place in the 70s?

40:28 Now he's jumping around, he's jumping back and forth. But let's just get a little closer to how crazy these people are you know? People like you and I who clearly are religious nutjobs and we just... When was the last time YOU went to church?! I'm gonna go soon. Yeah, why not? We're talking about it now! One thing I mean straight is that the Renaissance Faire is not a church so... Oh thank you. Thanks for clearing that up. You should go to that. What?! You should go to that! No, I'm not going to go there right now. Austin is full of churches but it's beyond the point we have a large segment of our listeners are who go to church

41:05 There's all kinds of denominations, but this is just despicable. Yes it's extremely offensive, but this is a movement that is real! It's real. It's real to make science religion, that's where this is going but first we have to discredit all others. Now are people who want you to embrace this false claim of science and reject your biblical understanding of God and they have taken positions of high office both in It's a political scene and in religion. They're all over the place, John. You don't never know when they're going to strike you next. He also said so some of these religious people are actually taking high office in religion? Yeah! Wow! So religious people are running some of the religions? And remember this Pope is very very important This is why I chose him

CHAPTER 12 / 46 Discussion

End Times Prophecy, Corporate Profiteering Claims

Chip Berlet argued that American evangelicalism is distinct for its focus on the "end times," which leads to a distrust of political and scientific leaders. He claimed that corporate profiteers fund anti-science rhetoric to maintain their lifestyles, such as drinking "Chateau Latour," while the earth faces environmental collapse. The hosts mock these assertions as disconnected from reality.

end times· apocalypse· corporate profiteering· chateau latour· evangelical christianity

42:00 Which happens to tie into one of the most significant aspects of evangelical and fundamentalist Christianity in the United States that is distinct from in Europe. which is the idea that we are living in the end times, the apocalyptic end times. Here we go! We're back to 2012 first this the Goddard girl says I have this kind of nut jobs who were calling me up but now it apparently if you really into religion and really believe in god and Jesus died for your sins then where in the end time baby which is what its all over and he has a great philosophy about this during which time trusted political and religious leaders will lie to you.

42:42 And so that puts scientists is kind of well because we're in the end times the end of days trusted political leaders and religious leaders Did he say that you might have will lie to you leaders? We'll like let me just back it up a little more make sure That's what he said cuz were at the end time. They lied to you. Yeah times What are they lying to us about I don't know Let's listen to what do you say he might explain it apocalyptic end times during which time trusted political and religious leaders will lie to you And so that... Where is that written down? In the book of End Times. But who, the most trusted religious leader would be the Pope? I don't know. Just stay with it! Let me get through this. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. The pope and religious leaders will lie to you

43:30 And so that puts scientists as kind of the lackeys of political and religious leaders who are lying to you. Lackeys, yeah. Now who could possibly believe this? Well somewhere... First of all, who could possibly be this crazy?! Apocalyptic belief in the United States, roughly 75-80% of the United States depending on how you do the polling is Christian or... Just use the IPCC math! You'll get the answer you want don't worry They claim they go to church on Sunday. Actually, a lot of them are lying too but let's not go there. Social scientists have gotten over that you know when do how often do you go to church every week? No how often do you really go to church so you have to actually ask leading questions that get them to admit the truth about one topic no but this is funny this is important because what he sees now just going off the rails all of a sudden he thinks he's funny as I was a shtick he thought it was hilarious yes

44:26 But it's important to listen to this. This is going on, not just here John, this is going on! This is very important and people are being... He's saying oh the religious crazies they don't even go to church they're lying that's That's what he is saying. This is outstanding! No, how often do you really go to church? So you have to actually ask leading questions that get them to admit that it's really about once a month and maybe it's only Christmas and Easter... Just so you know the people who are crazy religious they don't even go to church this guy is a dick I'm sorry and he's a Christian! Tell these jokes okay so don't get mad at me I'm just a different kind of Christian. I am the kind that likes science and our branch got over that in the 1800s. What is the branch that got over it in the 1800's? I don't know, maybe he's... I can guess where he's from but sounds like a Lutheran to me. Could be. Methodist!

45:22 Why are you laughing? Methodists and Baptists are big, kind of in the South. There's mostly Methodist and Baptists in one of them...and the major difference between the Methodist and the Baptist is that the Methodist thinks strip clubs are okay, and the Baptist think they're not okay. That is a dividing line between Methodist and Baptist in Georgia. Let me just write this down. Who says strip clubs are okay? Methodists! All right, I mean... Our kind of branch got over that in the 1800s. So now what happens then is that this becomes the single largest voting bloc in the Republican Party. Huh! He now-I guess he's claiming that the crazy religious nutjobs are the single biggest voting bloc in the Republican Party? Okay. Is conservative fundamentalists and evangelicals who reject science because it interferes with their relationship to God.

46:18 And so it then becomes part of a alliance, which includes at the top corporate profiteers who really want to keep making money because they're going to finish their Chateau L'Etour before the earth turns into dustbin. So crazy Chateau Chateau La Tour. Yeah, Chateau La Tour in other words He's he you don't say shit unless you know it unless your drink unless yeah unless your drinking it You don't talk about it. Yeah covered by water the rest of it so no big deal wait But he said they're gonna be just drinking their Chateau la tour while and he make he fucks up here While the earth turns into it turns into a giant dust bowl with water everywhere corporate profiteers who?

47:05 you know, really want to keep making money because they're going to finish their, you know, Chateau Latour before the earth turns into a dustbin covered by water. The rest of it... What is it? Dust bin or water dude? No big deal! You know, It's just like taking an order- taking any industry stripping it and living the high life Okay so Republican religious crazy nut jobs are just drinking their Chateau Latour funding Like petting stroking their white pussycat funding all this Anti-science talk on television what planet is this guy from it just says the earth you know so that sucks So there are researchers on the gravy train or this is the kind of thing right about now You'd expect some guys sneaking up behind him with a big butterfly net to take him off to the nut house Or he says someone comes up behind and says nice fabric

CHAPTER 13 / 46 Discussion

Anarcho-Libertarians, Climate Armageddon as Self-Fulfilling Prophecy

The discussion shifts to "anarcho-libertarians" and their alleged reliance on conspiracy theory websites. Chip Berlet suggested that the denial of climate change by the religious right creates a self-fulfilling prophecy of apocalypse. The hosts counter that the scientific community is creating its own version of Armageddon that can only be stopped by adopting their "religion" of survival.

anarcho-libertarians· conspiracy theory· armageddon· self-fulfilling prophecy· nihilism

48:00 Yeah, the rest of it. So no big deal you know it's just like taking an order- taking any industry stripping it and living the high life It just hits the earth so that sucks. That was just the earth? Sucks! So there are researchers on the gravy train already mentioned What gravy train?! The gravy train for research is on proving man-made global warming and climate change. This is just, this is really crazy! There are the media and exploiting politicians I wrote this all yesterday so I'm totally agreeing with you It's almost done but he has some...this is the problem I want to cut him off each time then he has another gem There's a tiny group of anarcho libertarians who just What is it? Narco lib...what do they call them? Anarcho libertarians What is that? Anarchists Oh at what was the term? Anarcho

48:50 How does that... aren't anarchists more left-wing? Not necessarily. Okay Not necessarily. The anarchists that I grew up with in the 70s in Europe were all... Yeah, the guys who throw the bombs. They're kind of more communist though. Anarchy bomb is perfectly round and black and it's got a fuse out at the top usually has a hammer and sickle Yes! Commies! And then you throw that bomb and your an anarchist left-wing style. Yeah they're commies. So left Yeah, but no. It's a misnomer. There are the media and exploiting politicians... I wrote this all yesterday so i'm not totally agreeing with you there is a tiny group of anarcho-libertarians... Yesterday? This was his preparation? His prep?! Well he's a writer! He could just do that... By the way it does happen

49:45 You're at the hotel the night before. You're right, you're scared. Yeah of course! ...who just read conspiracy theory websites... Oh there we go. Hold on a second, let me back it up for a second. Now this is... Add to the list. Just gotta bring it in yeah? I totally agree with you There's a tiny group of anarcho-libertarians who just read conspiracy theory websites and don't yell at me I know its bolder I know there's a distinctively significant larger proportion of conspiracy theories than the rest of the world And I'm happy to talk to you. But the biggest base are these conservative Christian fundamentalists and evangelicals who are convinced that we're living in a time when satanic agents walk the earth, and they're going to try and get you to abandon God So for the first time... Now this is here's his conclusion just to summarize

50:35 The crazy Republican nutjob Christians, they are convinced... Conspiracy nuts. They're convinced that the agents of Satan are walking around and it's time for the end times and now he is going to explain that they're pretty much on message for what the crazy nutjobs want We actually have the ability to create an apocalypse You're not going to lose the bet when you say it's, you know. It's like it's gonna happen if we don't change things and and you know what they're gonna say I guess you know where the apocalypse happened in and it didn't happen their way We thought but that will be a very brief thought okay because Because the crazy Christian religious right conspiracy nut Republicans are denying science And were not going to make a change The apocalypse will happen

51:25 a self-fulfilling prophecy. Great in their minds, um so he also believes in Armageddon what can I say? So here's the thing if actually that's a great point these guys are the ones who believe in Armageddon yeah because of the claim oh we're all gonna die from climate change but the armageddon you nailed it the armageddon is not prophecy because it can be stopped. This is the end times, this is Armageddon because of man-made climate change but we can stop it! That's really what's good... So science is your religion to survival? If as a person who does...

52:07 I'm going to have to think this over a little bit more because... The only reason these guys are so adamant is because people are trying to stop it. So they're making the point that they're getting the upper hand, because all those huge amounts of money going into research to disprove that climate change is going on where there's none, of course. They're creating a scenario where the world is gonna be destroyed because that's what kind of what they want? Then they can blame it on somebody else. I'm not absolutely sure that they that they're sincere about any of this now in other words The sincerity about we can stop it, I would agree. I would agree. I think there are a bunch of nihilists Almost done.

CHAPTER 14 / 46 Discussion

Dominion vs Stewardship, Religious Farce Claims

Chip Berlet discussed the Christian concepts of "dominion" versus "stewardship" regarding the environment, using crude metaphors to describe human impact on the earth. He characterized traditional religion as a "farce" and criticized figures like Ted Cruz for their stances on abortion and gay rights. The hosts highlight the inconsistency in the panel's criticism of Christianity versus their avoidance of "Islamophobia."

dominion· stewardship· islamophobia· ted cruz· gay rights

53:09 Victorian costumes and roams around in, okay. But this is exactly what I'm trying to say it's an hour-long watch the whole thing because this is...and they believe it John! They're totally completely believed and this guy says he's a Christian but oh I'm a different kind of Christian That's what and this is it. Science as religion, everything else is no good except of course Islam because you know don't be an Islamophobe As a person who does write about social science and I'm a journalist And I worked for think tank for 30 years that researched right-wing social and political movements to try and help left wing organizers figure out why they were saying these things like there was no climate change

53:51 Or, you know abortion is sin and gay people should be shot or something. Gay people should be shot? Or hung! Like hanged. Yeah hang them. Yes. So now Ted Cruz... What right wingers do you know that have this belief? Well clearly the crazy... The Tea Party! Ted Cruz! Oh, Ted Cruz. Abortion is a sin and gay people should be shot or hung You feel me? Whoever said that, I never heard that. But when you're saying how can they take this guy serious but yes and he's looking over at the other gay guy from Penn State like a little gay club there hey as a bi-curious man i take offense to these things like you know there is no climate change or abortion is sin and gay people should be shot or something or usually hanged. Cigarettes don't give you cancer. Some work to say them

54:45 Your religion is a farce. Get over it! Get over it! Your religion is a farce! GET OVER IT ALREADY!!! Embrace science, because you're not going to convince these people that that's what true. What's gonna happen that does work... ...is to talk about the difference between dominion and stewardship. Ah, dominion and stewardship. I'll only play the dominion part 15 seconds. And dominion is one way of understanding within Christianity what God gave to humans And dominion means you get to do whatever you want. You know, you get shit in your own kitchen. Shit in your own kitchen! He's going all out now

55:24 Because that's what we're doing, John. We're shitting in our own kitchen. And dominion means you get to do whatever you want You know? You get to shit in your own kitchen essentially which was what we're doing now Let's be frank This is what we're doing, John. Let's be frank That's what I'm doing! You stepped on it It got a new jingle Yeah, I heard it No, you didn't It has Obama in it Yeah! The science is in. I am so gonna die! Alright, i'm done Alright, that's enough. Yes is more than enough gee I'm sorry But this is important an hour of they'll never get back who started it how the phrase goes That's not true you enjoyed it. I know you enjoy our my life alright. Never get back No Only enjoyed from some just like pit pulling wings off a fly these people are annoying

56:22 They're all over the place. And it's big now, and Bill Nye is der Führer! He's their leader! How sad is that? Bill Nye the Fuhrer guy... Yeah. Well with that maybe I should just thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. Climate denier Dvorak in the morning Adam C Curry in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in The air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there We have a lot of new dames and knights coming up to I want to mention later in this show we do And in the morning too, all in the chat room no agenda stream calm in the morning to our artists Thank you very much Martin JJ saving us because we've had some trouble with art lately. I was going to remind you of that

CHAPTER 15 / 46 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Newsletter Success, Donor Engagement

The hosts discuss the recent consistency of the show and the success of a "nag letter" newsletter that spurred a wave of donations. They emphasize the importance of financial contribution in making listeners feel like part of the community. Several small-scale donors are thanked for their support, including a retired listener contributing from Social Security funds.

no agenda· newsletter· donations· executive producers· art

57:08 Yes, where you say yes? Yes. I was I had a whole bit planned Oh is it for later the bit no yeah, I forgot what the bit was We got to get more art we had we were doing You know we were moving along and then we started talking about how great the artist and I guess every all the arts But that's fantastic thanks for the compliment they stopped producing I don't or they can't get or maybe this show I think there's also this possibility than the show hasn't got any big It has a lot of...it's consistently good. It doesn't have peaks and valleys, and peaks and valleys so they don't have... Well except for that hour you won't get back. ...focus on it then during the valley they can do the art in this minute

57:49 We have less of that. Oh, I see what you're saying! If you look at the last number show starting with 722, I believe that we've been extremely consistent and people keep mentioning it to us that were coming up with really good material although this is a lie...I think that we finally had spent an hour on something that we could have just as easily avoided although i am not going argue Uniquely, I think you've positioned yourself... And we did climate change last show. That's the only reason why I'm complaining about it. I understand and it wasn't- Well let's thank a few people that we started the newsletter. I did a newsletter that one guy sent in a note saying, You've shamed me into donating." And I specifically wrote that newsletter not as a shame letter but as a nag letter is a difference between this type of writing

58:37 But it got a lot of attention and we did get a lot of donations. The time yesterday afternoon, we had like nothing in that campaign. Yeah which is pretty much... I read the... Of course you always send it to me for proofreading them and I was oh really? Yeah! Like this is gonna suck again. Now everyone jumped in which I'm going to say right now if everybody out there wants to get sneak-in executive producership Thursday. Yep Because this is gonna be a long, lot of people. We wanna thank everybody by the way including I got a note from one guy and I'm gonna read it. I'm not gonna say his name because it was under the normal amount but I wanted to unfortunately my printer's printing very light. I want to let you know that I read the newsletter and immediately donated. It was admittedly a small $5 amount

59:31 But it's what I had in my account, at least until the Social Security money comes in next," which is...you know he's a guy who's retired guy. "...I've been listening since the beginning and finally I've been able to do more than just spread the formula." And then he says, "'It really does feel wonderful.'" Ha, nice. It's true! We try to tell people that when you get involved to the point where you're actually contributing to the show but financially... You feel better about everything and then you feel more of a part of the show

CHAPTER 16 / 46 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, The Who Lyrics, Karma Requests

High-level donors are acknowledged, including SirHeyIdiot, who contributed $430.10 and shared a story about The Who's lyrics. Other donors like Jonathan Bingham and Philip Gorski requested "de-douching" and "karma" for their families. The hosts also address technical issues with PayPal cancelling recurring donations and provide "jobs" jingles for those seeking employment.

sirheyidiot· the who· karma· jobs· paypal

1:00:09 So let's start with... And a part of the community. The community, which is very important. SirHeyIdiot comes in at the top with $430 and 10 cents out of Concord California which is right down the street from me by the way when riding my bike to work Friday yes I do wear a helmet but don't do all those other things that JCD seems to despise. I happen to be listening the who's behind blue eyes via bluetooth speaker as I also do not wear headphones while writing. Suddenly these lyrics struck me, if i swallow anything evil... oh this is by the way the who's yeah blue eyes... If I swallow anything evil put your finger down my throat! I thought no agenda is the much-needed finger down all our throats isn't it?

1:01:01 I Life top-level domain was being offered so naturally mac and cheese dot life at Mac and she's done Mac and she's not like Mac in She's got life. We're begging to be claimed So he got him and finally tonight I've allowed John's mailing to shame me here we go again into another countdown donation, so here's four three two one zero Because no agenda can be counted upon. If I smile, you'll tell me some bad news before I laugh and act like a fool." Thank you both for your courage and please hit me with a little bugs bugs bugs followed by whatever the chef recommends.

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1:02:58 5, 6, 14. I don't know... You can just cancel and start over. I'll include the difference in my .15 donation Adam thanks for comments on the Enigma movie and the role of Poland Job karma for my wife and karma for you too please to ensure future donations especially through this summer Thanks Philip Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! And jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma Here we go. Thank you very much, Philip. Not to be read stuff about random number that he's observing. Kent O'Rourke in Frostburg Maryland 34567 I have reverted back to Boner To fix that please accept this donation and hopefully this will help out in this downtime And thanks for the service you two do by giving the world is the best podcast in the universe

1:03:50 Could I please have some karma? I will be setting back up a recurring donation. PayPal cancelled it." Yeah, if you see this and anyone who's on monthly or any recurring make sure you check in because for some reason there are some known reasons that PayPal will cancel that but the crappy thing is they'll say that we canceled it like no I don't think we would have cancelled that. You've got karma. Thank you very much Onward with this trend, Alex Farrington in Santa Maria California 34567. I heard the call out for support loud and clear. The Laura contributions aren't a function of NA dysfunction rather I think is generally a function of apathy distraction or general douchebaggery

1:04:38 For me, it was mostly two and three. But no more! I wanted to get in on the Fletcher Fest with a Pi Day donation but actually got married on Pi day and that impacted my ability to send support sooner at least at this level. Shout outs to Dame Bang Bang and Sir DH Hammer and a douchebag check for Sherman Nilsson who hit me in the mouth back in the Bush administration and still hasn't donated! He wants a douche bag check or a douche bag? I think he wants a douche bag but he wants a douche bag check. Oh, don't smoke Jack! We found the douchebag. Thank you for your courage citizens, I'd love a don't eat me Hillary It's almost too delicious to believe and it shut up already at science And maybe a kiki was worth it as I know that's four Maybe I am a douche bag What difference he wanted? Oh man Don't eat me Hillary Okay, don't eat me Hilary Too delicious to believe

1:05:40 Oh, too delicious. I thought he said... Okay. Too delicious to believe. But I heard you say what difference at that point does it make? That's not in there? I didn't say that. Don't eat me Hillary Clinton! Shut up already It's almost too delicious to believe At this point doesn't make was worth it Our DJ Adam good morning, it's the Z morning zoo everybody Sean Finch finch him finch him I think is

1:06:16 in Manteca, California which means ball of lard by the way. It's a town in central California. Fincham 34567 ITM Jensen thank you for your courage long time boner first-time donor I've always told myself I donate once I graduated from college he put college he put graduated college it's not for you're not from Europe yeah I've graduated university at uni and landed on my feet. So here it is, first of all I'd like to thank Drew Olson for hitting me in the mouth four years ago and give him a douchebag call out as i've never heard his name on the donor list. I moved down to The Dust Bowl that is Central Valley of California almost two years ago from beautiful Bend Oregon And I listened to your show on my frequent road trips down to LA to see my smoking hot hopefully soon-to-be fiancée

1:07:07 up to home in Oregon. I can't thank you enough for the endless hours of laughter and insight the show provides, i don't know what i'd do without you guys please accept a humble donation as my first of many on my journey to knighthood and have Adam de-doosh me then pick two jingles of his liking before giving me a jobs proposal karma and i'll be popping the question in a couple of weeks ah very good he'll send pictures you've been dedooshed ISIS Jobs jobs jobs and jobs. Let's vote for job I Amuse myself yeah, you do sir random hillbilly Tom which is so it's your on drugs No, did we mention? We think was before the show we didn't mention it yet Oh yes amongst two months. I'm tripping on pseudofed man Why pop pollen tsunami oh

1:08:14 It's raining when the rain comes it takes and catches Pushes it into the water so the what? It's not raining constantly and everyone in Austin is sneezing this air until it rains then also 92 degrees for half a day That's gotta be great. Yeah I kid you not. Tim Wachinsky, this is a random hillbilly in Elkins West Virginia 333-33 apologies for the delay and tithing but dating someone half your age is tiring Yeah, that would be true. Please note that you also have producers who are deep in the structure of the internet standards bodies punching people in the mouth regularly. Await further instructions! Okay? We shall keep us apprised activate when necessary James Spitzer Sir James Spitzer In Boston Massachusetts Sir James Sir James yes sir james and he has I think a note actually He doesn't have a note hmm

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Knighting Ceremony, Drunk Donations, Baronetcy Upgrades

Several listeners are recognized for their contributions toward knighthood and baronetcy. David Overbeck donated toward his wife's damehood, recalling a meeting at an Illinois Hot Pockets meetup. Another donor, Corwin, provided a "drunk donation" while requesting human resource karma for his soon-to-be-born son.

knighthood· baronetcy· illinois meetup· drunk donation· karma

1:09:25 Exactly why I'm not sure he usually sends something in. Okay, well Sir James if you have something to tell us you can tell us next show All right, Sir David Overbeck in Brookfield Wisconsin 333.33 this donation is toward the damehood of my beautiful wife Christian. Adam met us both at the Illinois Hot Pockets meetup. Keep up the good work gentlemen you do not only keep me informed but also make my commute and every home ownership project 100% better. We're great to listen too while doing home ownership improvements

1:10:06 Yeah, exactly. I wouldn't know what I would do without the show." Yes, $300 in Hamilton Ohio. ITM is a total drunk donation. Okay I'll try it. This is all drunk donation? I'm pretty sure this puts me over the threshold of knighthood! Sorry for the summer slowdown and donations. I hope this keeps... helps. Please continue to be the best podcasting universe all other people need to donate. I would like a human resource karma for my soon-to-be born son. He's due in August! I'm a first time father and need all that karma i can get, I would like to be knighted Sir Crown! No Corwin. Corwin! Keep up the good work fellows!

1:10:58 Yeah, not just because you read them in a drunk manner. But you know drunk people and children always tell the truth Yes they do there you go here's a human resource karma on the way to thank you very much You've got karma enjoy it It's fun Associate executive producer next Charles Mac $271 and 83 cents from Arcata, California poor man's pie He says which is two seven one eight three not absolutely three more words. It's yeah it's the It's fourteen point two seven one it's after the decimal oh Really John

1:11:37 I thought it was the price of something you get from the house. The morning zoo DJ has to figure that one out? My goodness, Gerald Small in Gilbert Arizona 245-23456 Thanks for the John's email today. It reminds me that quality ain't free and if we want to continue Then a donation is an order if we want it to continue It's been a couple of months since I've sent along some appreciation, but I know there are thousands writing free Come on you freeloaders time to pony up You don't know what you have until the morning you wake up in it. Don't have it as gone That's right fun

1:12:15 Sir Michael Shoemaker, the Baron of Lake County in Kelseyville California which is in Lake County I believe. 3423456 Hope this helps with the contribution slowdown can come on you boners pitch and even if it requires you to give up that double chocolate pumpkin latte you order every morning on the way to work If you're lucky enough to have a job I don't know why but that was funny. Yeah, keep punching them in the mouth JC D and AC karma to you both Sir Mike baronet of Lake County You've got karma

1:12:51 Maurice Tate, 23456. We have a... Did you notice the thing we got 34567? We've got 23456 and we have a string of them! And he's in Vallejo California. Got your backs guys eh? How about paying some attention to the total idiocy that is California's government Jerry Brown Kamala Harris, Sanchez? Anyway here's some money. Enjoy! Sir Festus of Alva. Well that's your beat if I have Bill Nye you gotta have California. It's not as funny as Bill Nye believe me. True. Sir John Harrison in Austin Texas 3 2 3 4 5 6

1:13:27 finishes my baronetcy and puts me on the path to Baron. Can I get some job karma for my daughter Sarah who graduated from college this week? She didn't graduate college, she graduated from college as he puts it." Thank you for giving us TPBITU. Sir John Harrison Austin... Jobs, jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! I'll be seeing you on the podium later. Okay let me look at Edward Sheets. I didn't see he was blank but it says E-A-T-S I think. See if they sent us a note. Edward Sheets

1:14:10 Donation? No, just a no. Hmm... It's odd it's not even listed. Must have come in by the mail or something Not sure I got general sheets but no What do we got here oh wait what is this Take all your time, whatever you want. Well I think... Sorry! Yeah, I'll do something for myself here don't worry it's all good. And then i don't have anything I got a rushing letter anyway sheets two three four five six uh sir upper decker s gondito california 200 offering up your percentage of my tax return thanks for the taxman karma sir whose ever in quantico virginia

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Government Whistleblowers, Small Modular Reactors, Media Fact-Checking

A donor from Quantico requested anonymity while contributing to the show, and another listener shared nostalgia for 1997 Zip drive cartridges. Stuart Rushing, a producer in the nuclear industry, pointed out a media fact-checking failure regarding frozen broccoli and aphids. The hosts reiterate that executive producer credits are valuable for professional networking on sites like LinkedIn.

quantico· zip drive· nuclear industry· small modular reactors· fact-checking

1:14:57 200? Government man, I'm guessing. Leave my real name out! Note, I'm answering a call for low donations. I'll donate... Reading it like a government guy. Leave my real name out! Note, I am answering the call due to low donations. I will donate more once debt free. I am not even getting a paycheck till June. Thank you for your courage. May get an ITM and cyber jingles. Yeah sure. In the morning, CYBER! I was gonna throw in a karma as well then. You've got karma. That is my new voice of the government guy Yeah, he's real James Ogilvie in Simsbury Connecticut ITM boys have been it's been a while since my last donation wanted to give 100 bucks and

1:15:47 for being a CT School of Broadcasting grad. Hey, hey! And 100 for having a box of about 50 zip drive cartridges all from my school work in 1997. Nice I don't have a drive anymore but i can't bring myself to throw my work away. I sent him a link to a USB Zip Drive you can buy from Amazon they're about 80 bucks Plus they caught some... I can't bring myself to throw my work away. Plus, they cost some ducats back then. Happy birthday to my daughter Rowan who turns 18 we have her on the list He wants a little girl boom shakalaka F the EU and HotPockets Okay Boom Shakalaka! Boom Shakalaka! That was in the distance. Kind of a downer

1:16:37 That was really a downer didn't quite work out the way I expected it to yeah, sir Stuart rushing from Corvette where's that I get it Corvallis Corvallis Oregon. He sent a note in there written in a font of note and In the morning guys, my contribution was delayed a couple of weeks ago and I was providing some financial assistance to family members. Anyway, I'm back on track and sharing some of the largest I received as part of USA nuclear industry." He makes... he's involved with small modular reactors to be specific. These are the ones we like! Yeah these are the ones you want. For sure And of course nobody talks about that They talk about wind power

1:17:19 I do not, I do have to point you out that you missed a glaring inconsistency in show 722 clip about aphids and broccoli in the school cafeteria. I think the ginormous quote blinded you. Probably! The news story made a comment about frozen broccoli, having grown broccoli and where that aphids are big problem however i find it difficult to understand how the aphid survived the flash freezing process and were then resurrected in the school cafeteria Since the product was thought and served. Methinks it's just another example of the piss poor fact-checking by our media or maybe those really small microscopic almost bugs are really hardy Regardless, I enjoy your biweekly conversations and media deconstructions I think biweekly means twice a month every other week now twice a week and Media deconstructions please continue we shall and this is night of the 10 CFR 50 appendix B

1:18:21 Ah, yes. We remember him. Yes. Stuart. Thank you, Stuart! Well thank thanks to all of our executive producers and associate executive producers thanks for hearing the call this is great these are real credits they get put right there on the front page of every single episode along with our artists of course very much like Hollywood real credits you can put these anywhere credits are accepted it turns out your LinkedIn is great people want to say hey executive producer let me go see what that is I'm going to hire that person I think it works. It looks good, i've seen people do it. Yeah? You know looks like oh executive producer he must be something special maybe as an actress i can bang

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June Presidential Proclamations, LGBT Pride Month

President Barack Obama issued several proclamations for the month of June 2015. These include National Caribbean-American Heritage Month, African American Music Appreciation Month, National Oceans Month, National Great Outdoors Month, and National LGBT Pride Month. The hosts prepare to discuss the implications of these designations.

barack obama· pride month· caribbean american heritage· great outdoors month· music appreciation

1:19:02 No, no. We don't have... so we read your notes in entirety? That's all that's missing. That's right and later on the show we will thank everyone at the $50 level or above and please remember we do have a show on Thursday. Devorak dot org slash N A Lot of mouth hitting in the letters today you can also participate with The Formula! Our formula is this- we go out, we hit people in the mouth. Amen, fist bump Shut up, sleep! Before we continue... A new month is upon us. The month of June? That means it's time for some presidential proclamations. June Swoon Yes We have the following as proclaimed by the president National Caribbean or Caribbean American Heritage Month Not quite sure I guess that's uh People from Jamaica and Haiti i'm sure

1:20:08 And then we have, it is African American Music Appreciation Month which means time for another concert at the White House. Jay-Z and Beyonce should get ready! He always does it It is National Oceans month It is National Great Outdoors month and finally... National LGBT Pride month Let me see if there's anything that we need to do for pride month I have a clip. You have a clip for Pride Month? Well, kind of... Okay what is it? So i just got this clip from the News Hour and then I went to the website that cited and I will recommend everybody well play the clip this is the clip that says Science Magazine gay scam

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Science Magazine Retraction, Same-Sex Marriage Study Fraud

Science Magazine retracted a high-profile study from December 2014 that claimed face-to-face conversations with gay canvassers could change attitudes toward same-sex marriage. The retraction followed an investigation by graduate students at Berkeley who found the data could not be replicated. Ivan Oransky of Retraction Watch highlighted how the lead author was pressured to keep quiet about concerns to avoid being labeled a troublemaker.

science magazine· retraction· same-sex marriage· fraud· retraction watch

1:20:57 Next, we explore questions about how scientific findings are published and verified. And whether allegations of fraud involving a top science journal are damaging credibility with the wider public? Yesterday Science Magazine retracted a study published in December that found people's attitudes toward same-sex marriage were more likely to be changed by face to face conversations with gay canvassers over straight ones It was a study that got quite a bit of pick up in the news media. Now that it's been retracted by a leading journal, it poses questions for the scientific establishment again to Hari who has more on the story.

1:21:43 Yeah, I looked at this whole thing over. There's been Retraction Watch which is where this guy came from they're going to interview in a second it's a newsletter that discusses or not yes it's own blog but it's a really good blog and I recommend everybody who listens to the show go to retractionwatch.com and just plow through it It is fascinating And the most fascinating part about the story play the rest of this and I'll tell you where it went The study's lead author asked for the retraction after the original findings could not be duplicated and his co-author, a graduate student was accused of misrepresenting how the work was done. This is the latest retraction in a major journal In recent years there have been others involving cloning and stem cell research Ivan Oransky is a journalist as well as a medical doctor

1:22:31 who broke this story. He is co-founder of the blog Retraction Watch and global editorial director of MedPage Today, an online medical news service for physicians and other medical professionals. So first of all this particular case how did we get here? What went wrong? So what seems to have gone wrong was that only some of this study or at least we can only see that some of this study actually happened lots of pressure on researchers We don't exactly know what happened here in sort of early days but Part of the study, which was that gay people went to people's houses and tried to convince them that gay marriage was a good thing. That they should agree with it. That part seems so have happened what is unclear if whether surveying them afterward to tell whether you actually changed their minds Which in this case is pretty important part of the study where that actually happened

1:23:18 And so you fast forward a little bit, this paper gets published in a really big journal as you said. In science, a major medical excuse me, a major science journal and that happens in December and then a couple months later some grad students at Berkeley They decide, oh we want to do the next set of experiments. We think this is pretty cool And this is how science works That's supposed to be how science works So they start looking at it and something doesn't look right to them They start asking a lot of questions which again is supposed to be the way science works Ask the lead author hey you know what's actually happening here and No one can find the data How? The guy goes on and on about explaining what happened and

1:24:00 It was just a bogus study that somehow got published. Everyone's all jacked up about it, but it was all bullcrap and of course that's the way science works I thought kind of fits in with your earlier clips. Apparently none of the climate guys think that's how science works. 97% are in and that's that! Retraction Watch, which is a really great blog has been following this and it hasn't but I don't know maybe five or six posts about it including the one about David Brockman. And the way science is supposed to work in the way kind of works into modern era which as you shout down the people who bring up anything. Yeah, you burn them at the stake. You burn them at the stake and so let me just read from his last post here he says Berkeley graduate student David Brockman that's the guy they didn't mention on the show there right one of the people whose critique brought down the study quote and is a quote here from this guy

1:24:57 Was consistently told by friends and advisors to keep quiet about his concerns lest he earn a reputation as a troublemaker. Ah, yes! Or perhaps worse someone who merely replicates and investigates others research rather than plant the flag of his own. And then the writer of The Retraction Watch adds A chilling quote from New York magazine's Jesse Singel who is writing about who seemed to be deeply involved in this whole thing because Single was the one of the first guys to push this story into the mainstream media and then when it got burned off he counter things right, but yeah I think the shouting down thing was a Right. This is it right here We see it an example everyone says don't no

1:25:45 I found that was the most interesting part of this, not that it was a bogus... No. The shouting down part of course! Yeah and this is a real problem and that's what these guys Bill Nye and all these other guys and they always go around oh people hating on me there hating on me yeah yeah absolutely They're bullying me They call me evil Just staying in this for moments Now see here's another voice you could develop Yeah, but kind of the German... They're calling me evil. Slightly German, uh, kind of that German dancer from Saturday Night Live. Now is the time on Spockets when we dance! Yes. Okay good work on that. Marco Rubio what? Is he Catholic? I would hope so

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Marco Rubio, Nancy Pelosi, War on Religion

Senator Marco Rubio warned that the push for same-sex marriage could lead to the labeling of mainstream Christian teachings as "hate speech." Nancy Pelosi responded by disagreeing with Rubio, calling his statements "polarizing" and citing her own Catholic upbringing. The discussion also touches on Rubio's childhood history with the LDS church and the potential influence of Pope Francis on climate change and gay marriage debates.

marco rubio· nancy pelosi· catholicism· mormonism· same-sex marriage

1:26:33 Let me see what he is. He was a member of Church of Christ of Latter-day Saints... What? What?! He was LDS as a kid! I didn't know that! Nooo! Says it, well i'm looking at the Book Of Knowledge. But isn't that the world's best kept secret?? Let me see.. This is from CNN, I'm just reading here which is another part of Book Of Knowledge Yes, as a boy A new wrinkle emerged Thursday when was this? This is from February 2012 The autobiography of, so no one read the autobiography. A rising Republican star Senator Marco Rubio was like... This is a book that Nancy Pelosi came out with it just nobody sold zero. Well funny enough this is uh Marco Rubio about um

1:27:15 the war on religion and Nancy Pelosi has a response. First, Rubio... Today we've reached the point in our society where if you do not support same-sex marriage you are labeled a homophobe and a hater so what's the next step after that? After they're done going after individuals The next step is to argue that the teachings of mainstream Christianity The catechism at the Catholic Church is hate speech And uh.. That's a real and present danger Yeah He's you know that's a message. He should keep stay on he'll get elected with that message got the Catholic It was a Catholic and then it became a Mormon, and then he quit Mormonism in June of 2012 because credits Marco Rubio credits his short term is Short-lived time as a Mormon for providing a moral compass in his youth Here's Nancy Pelosi responding to those remarks And he said that

1:28:07 I thoroughly disagree. Being raised in a Catholic family, raising a Catholic family... Isn't her husband Jewish? I'm pretty sure she's married to a Jew isn't she? Well, I know obviously Feinstein is but... No. I could be wrong. Take a look. We're doing this on the fly! That's right. This is how it works. They cancelled Rubicon and this is what we do? Mainstream Catholic. This statement by Senator Rubio is most unfortunate It's a polarizing statement The fact is that what we were taught was to respect people in our faith

1:28:48 And to say that this endangers mainstream Christian thinking is so completely wrong. And again, it's polarizing and I would hope that perhaps he believes what he says and I assume that he does But I hope that we can persuade him differently because the country is going in a completely different direction now And it's very, it's very very exciting. I don't even think the Pope Francis would subscribe to what Marco Rubio just said Yeah this all gonna be very interesting Supreme Court is gonna make a decision on gay marriage The pope is like you know oh sounds like you know this very important pope and... That husband is Roman Catholic his name is Pelosi

1:29:31 This Pope, I'm telling you he's going to figure out a way to make the crazy Republican Christian nut jobs conspiracy theorists believe in climate change. May I make climate change? He is going to somehow make everyone be cool with gay marriage. He is an important guy! And I think he'll be successful. I think he can do it! People love this Pope... When's the last time you heard anyone talk about the Pope? A previous pope? More non-Catholics talking about him than Catholics. Of course, because he is the agent of change He is doing the devil's work John Yeah sorry My theory on FIFA

CHAPTER 22 / 46 Discussion

FIFA Corruption Scandal, Sepp Blatter Re-election, RT Coverage

Sepp Blatter was re-elected as FIFA president despite a massive corruption indictment led by the U.S. Department of Justice. RT coverage suggested the arrests were a "last-ditch assault" by the U.S. and UK due to bitterness over losing World Cup bids to Russia and Qatar. The hosts discuss the involvement of FBI Director James Comey and the potential for major banks like HSBC and Barclays to face fines as conduits for bribe money.

fifa· sepp blatter· james comey· rt· corruption

1:30:13 I don't know if it's... I have a couple of FIFA clips. Okay, i was just going to say the Palestinians did you know they dropped the vote to kick Israel out! They dropped the ball? They dropped them well.. You said the boat didn't ya? The vote oh the vote yeah the vote. Yeah they dropped the ball like balls are referenced with soccer so it's funnier and now i know why yes i'm sorry i'm pulling myself up off the floor Now I know why Comey was involved with the whole indictment and the announcement. Barclays and HSBC have been named in the Department of Justice paperwork for being a conduit... Another big fine coming our way! Well, yeah but he was on the board of directors at HSBC before he became the director of the FBI

1:31:03 So I'm sure, maybe Barclays might get a big fine. I'm pretty sure HSBC will be just fine because we take care of each other." You don't know that's true you're just assuming but let's listen to RT now there's this woman this British woman who is a bot she's a botcher She scrambles stuff on the... she's on RT. She's a cute little British girl named Katie Pilbeam. Yes, yeah I like her. With a very cute name. I'm Miss Pilbeam? Is she dark hair? No no, little blonde. And she is uh... Cute as a button and she's always screwing things up so let's play... Oh! She's totally cute Yeah, cute-cute as a button that's how cute she is

1:31:51 Play the RT Katie Pilbeam WTF clip and tell me if you can spot the gaffe. Hello there, you're watching RT International You're with me Katie Pilbeam It's just gone 8 o clock in the evening this Saturday here on RT RT's newly re-elected boss has held his first media briefing after Friday's tense vote in the wake of... Wait a minute, did she say R.T.'s newly elected boss? You caught it! Yeah! Yeah, R.T.'s new... R.T.'s newly elected boss instead of FIFA. Oh poor girl come on she was reading the prompter. RT's newly re-elected boss has held his first media briefing after Friday's tense vote in the wake of the corruption scandal that engulfed world football's most powerful body. Hey Blatter is an ARAB

1:32:35 Just to point that out. I didn't know that! Yes, yes yes yes... It's all connected. There was a whole Israel-Palestine thing this indictment. And what laws did they really break? I don't know. That's the question on my mind too is like oh they're taking bribes well maybe the system does it because that's what they do because that's the way that works They're American companies taking bribes against one of our laws. It's an international body. You can call it a bribe, you know... I would just call it a payoff. But it's just business! A fee! It's a fee!

1:33:11 Yeah, finder's fee of commission whatever you want to call it. It is not bribery But here is RT on bladder we can because the RT takes a different perspective on this yeah This anti-putin Russia they take the RT says it's all America trying to get back at Putin and and it's all bullcrap And we're just a bunch of sleazeballs Well there's that We're in football. Those who have lost today, they could win tomorrow. The same as in football and I'm also the president of those who did not vote for me Well, just two days before the vote 14 FIFA officials were indicted by America on corruption charges. The arrests were then used as a launch, last-ditch assault against Blatter's presidency some top politicians and football officials called for him to quit Nevertheless on Friday Blatter enjoyed the support of the majority of FIFA members and won an unprecedented fifth term in charge

1:34:08 Blatter says he's shocked at the way football's ruling body has been targeted. He insists the arrest of FIFA officials and calls for his resignation are of no coincidence, as Harry Fear reports. One of its main points actually bizarrely and very interestingly is to question the fishy timing of that US a the vote on his re-electionism. Curiously enough, American journalists arrived in advance to witness the arrests at the Zurich Hotel. The New York Times guys were they were tipped off! They knew it they were already waiting there forgot to mention that last show Another big point he's been making today is that he really says the US and the UK are bitter their source

1:35:06 poor losers. They didn't win the 2018 and 2022 World Cup nation hosting bids, they're sore losers of course 2018 went to Russia 2022 went to Qatar now on the European side he said that UEFA's hatred of him as he calls it is not just with the leader of the organization, but is incumbent throughout the entire organization. Is systemic. The organization you wait for he says has never really accepted him as president since he was first elected back in 1998 because he's an Arab Well, there's that and he also doesn't kowtow to the European interests. UEFA which is the European operation They showed a map of the way the votes went down for him And it was like what you've never seen anything so... It was like the European song contest Yeah, it was Europe United States and South America on one side and then Africa Russia and China on the other

1:36:07 and right it does look like there could be a split is now in the using all may we're not going to play the game anymore with these jokers. And your theory might be confirmed by the fact that they've dropped the whole thing because this guy only won by one vote and he doesn't need to stir up anything by letting Israel versus Palestine theme faster." I'm pretty sure all of these guys who are indicted, they'll all walk. Maybe some loser draws a short stick then gets something. It's also, you know...it may be a...or it is a distraction. I don't know if it's intentional. The LIBOR fixing trial that's ongoing right now? It was not reported at all. I think BBC is doing some work. This is the fixing of the LIBOR rate which is what... Howard Glassman Yeah that is a huge scandal! Stephen Ruckman What the economy is kind of based on. You know what your paying for your mortgage is partially if not entirely determined by the LIBOR rates and they've got some schmuck

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Dennis Hastert Indictment, Bank Regulation Evasion

Former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert was indicted on charges of evading bank regulations and lying to the FBI. Hastert allegedly withdrew $952,000 in increments under $10,000 to avoid reporting requirements, reportedly to pay hush money related to past misconduct. The hosts debate the legality of "structuring" withdrawals and the role of FBI Director James Comey in the investigation.

dennis hastert· hush money· fbi· structuring· bank regulations

1:37:09 Some douche. Oh, they'll find some guy. It's the 35 year old former city trader of course He's gonna be the guy oh they were taking bribes and going on trips I'm shocked so nothing will come come out of that and then maybe another reason Comey is is pushing the FIFA or was pushing the FIFA thing Let's keep HSBC out of the way because they were intimately involved in a libor fixing everyone's protecting each other And this kind of leads into what I think is a war on cash story. I haven't really looked too deeply into this Dennis Hasterts thing, this is the former Speaker of the House.

1:37:50 Well, it's not a question to look into because they've been keeping most of this hushed up. We don't know anything. I do know what the indictment is and that's... Let's play it. I have a clip from NewsHour. It's called Hastert and we at least get a little background on this. Former Speaker of the U.S House of Representatives Dennis Hastert has resigned from his law firm amid federal charges of misconduct Multiple media outlets reported today the misconduct involved sexual abuse allegations by an unnamed man. The Illinois Republican was indicted yesterday and accused of agreeing to pay millions in hush money. The indictment itself did not describe the misconduct but it did say that it involved a

1:38:33 person Hastert knew from a high school where he taught and coached from 1965 to 1981. Incidentally, I love it when we fit together and you have a clip that explains the background that's fantastic. It's random number theory? Well you're welcome! Cosmos So of course it's always fun to out a Republican as gay. It's nothing funnier than that because... Well, you know you have to admit they hate gays we all know it well there you know they obviously don't hate gays no because most of them are gay man is kind of funny it gets old and I just get oh I don't think it's okay to out anybody for any reason this is not okay it's not your business Okay now I'm on your side but if there was some alleged abuse

1:39:21 But that's...so the report was correct, because I have the... This is more of like... Well listen to the indictment. I want to mention one more thing there was that i think an interesting point which was made maybe on some obscure news report it is interesting that a guy making $270,000 dollars a year can afford up to apparently two million dollars cash hush money That's an indictment of not the Republicans being gay, but an indictment of all congressmen somehow making all this extra money. The indictment which does not describe the misconduct... Which is strange to me. Very strange But he has one count of evading bank regulations by withdrawing $952,000 in increments of less than ten thousand dollars to skirt the reporting requirements This is now illegal

1:40:16 And it's all, I think Wall Street... They should make it. It's not, it is bullcrap! It is not illegal. Hold on. Yes, I think it is illegal John if you are trying to withdraw a whole bunch of money to skirt the legal limit of $10,000. It's technical illegality. Yeah well that's what he was indicted on And then one count of lying to the FBI about the reason. It shouldn't... The FBI isn't... That's where he is going to get screwed, Martha Stewart! Yeah Oh and it's FBI. Mm-hmm Comey. Comey again As one of the whistleblowers from the NSA I forgot which one said Don't talk to the FBI No But he shouldn't have to explain that at all

CHAPTER 24 / 46 Discussion

Boeing 747 Pricing, Inflation Calculation Discrepancies

A comparison of Boeing 747 prices from 1970 to 2015 reveals a significant gap between government inflation data and real-world costs. While a 1970 list price of $24 million should equate to $146 million today according to the CPI, the actual selling price is approximately $357 million. This discrepancy suggests that official government inflation numbers are significantly understated.

boeing 747· inflation· cpi· shadow stats· manufacturing costs

1:41:04 That's his money, but apparently it's not because you're not... This $10,000 was from the 70s I think. It's been around a long time. To fight cocaine dealers. And has never been adjusted for inflation and this is...it's a very strange thing. When we're done with this, I want to discuss inflation for a minute. Okay let me see. I think I'm done with this. All right. Let's discuss inflation So I was looking at, you know...I got a note from someone. And I've been irked about this here. Oh! You know that guy in John Williams? The guy in San Francisco does shadow stats who had...and I sent them a note recently. You know he's got a different inflation rate than what the government is telling us and then I was thinking...I came to mind so I decided do some calculations. I want to just express a few of them. This is your calculus. My calculus.

1:41:59 It came to mind because I read this article in one of the business magazines, why a Boeing 747-8 cost 357 million. And he says the first 747 from Boeing was put into the market in 1970 and those first planes sold at a list price of 24 million adjusting for inflation, the same 747 should sell today for 146 So, why does Boeing have the passenger plane selling for $356.9 million? And as soon as I read that, I said, well first of all the business writer is obviously all in on what the government says inflation was. The story just points out that it's bull crap!

1:42:52 The reason Boeing's selling the plane for $340 million is because that's what it costs them to make and sell the plane. And so I decided to look back, and there are a bunch of these CPI calculators out there. So I grabbed one... It's possible that some parts also became more expensive for some reason? Everything has gone up! But that's called inflation. So if inflation says it should sell for 146 but sells at 350 What's wrong with this picture? It's not that Boeing is gouging anybody. It's that the plane cost this much to make." So just to prove that it is a whole thing, because government numbers are bogus which this guy never brings up he's just criticizing Boeing for charging too much based on inflation I decided to go into the inflation calculator and then compared to reality

CHAPTER 25 / 46 Discussion

Real-World Inflation Examples, Wine and Real Estate

An analysis of prices for luxury wines, residential real estate, and Medicare premiums shows that inflation has far outpaced government estimates since the 1970s. For example, a bottle of BV Private Reserve that cost $4.80 in 1970 should be $27 today but actually costs $90. The hosts argue that the government suppresses inflation numbers to avoid increasing Social Security payments and interest rates.

inflation· wine prices· real estate· medicare· social security

1:43:41 So I've got some 1970 prices of things that went on. Oh, hold on- And I remember when I was a young boy... Whoa whoa whoa! I'm sorry you can't just do that Why? You have to get into the time machine we gotta go back to 1970. There we go. I'm much younger now hi John Hi hello! Hi! I'm good. John my voice hasn't changed So, I have a thing about prices. I can remember prices and I'm kind of like a price guy. I can kind of see what things should sell for it. And so, I remember some wine prices of wine that was bought in the 1970-1972 time frame and now I'm going to adjust for inflation then tell you what these same wines cost today

1:44:22 This looks exactly like Boeing's numbers. A question, do you have a Shatola Tour on your list? No. I have had Shatola Tours plenty of times. I've had it. It was very tasty. Delicious! It is one the really great ones. Especially if you didn't pay for yourself. Fantastic Yes, it's very fantastic. Okay, BV Private Reserve, one of the greatest vineyards... One of the great-great-great vineyards was 1968 That wine came out at $4.80 a bottle, very expensive at the time. It came out around 70-71. Adjusted for inflation... Hold on! Survey says? Adjusted for inflation the wine should cost 27 dollars and 17 cents it actually costs 90 dollars

1:45:13 So, we have a factor. It's not even just a little difference... Have these people ever heard of supply and demand and how markets work and how pricing is set? It's beside the point because I have too many examples it's not just supply and demand it is the cost of business. And French aren't really into big prices. I have a question. Does it cost more in labor to create a wine from Texas here, Grape Creek versus making a Chateau Latour. Probably more expensive to make the Latour but really a lot more expensive

1:45:56 Or is it just a better grape? Well, you're missing my point here. This is all accounted for by inflation. If it costs more to make something in 2015 than it did in 1970, it's because this has to be adjusted for inflation. There are inflationary factors involved including the cost of labor. So let's look at some more of these examples. Chateau Gloria, this is a French wine. In 1970-71 you could buy it for $1.70 a bottle for inflation that means it should sell for today $9.62. It sells for 40. That's the factor of four difference. Chateau Guy scores the 1967 vintage sold for $2.30 inflation, $13 reality 50.

1:46:42 Chateau Hobai, $3.40 for the 67 vintage which wasn't a great vintage but it was good wine should be $19.24 a bottle today based on the US government's calculator in fact it sells for like 50 to 90 dollars a bottle Okay, now let's go to my mother's house. She bought a house in Albany in 1972 and I'd switched the numbers on the calculator she bought this place for $27,000. The calculator...the government calculator says it should be worth by if you add inflation $152,000. It is probably worth 600,000 now. 650!

1:47:21 A stamp, stamps are actually not too bad because I think a stamp is like 44 cents, 46 cents something like that. But a stamp in 1970 was 6 cents adjusted for inflation and went to 30...should be 37 since it's still high. So the government is lying? Stagflation was another issue. Let's look you want to look at some cars? I don't know but I Get your point 1972 Corvette $5,400 for inflation a corvette today should sell for thirty thousand dollars it sells for fifty five 1970 Barracuda twenty seven hundred dollars brand-new should sell for sixteen Thousand dollars based on inflation it sells for sixty

1:48:05 You want me to go on? Let me... No, not really. I got one more and this is the one you have to have. Okay. 1970 Medicare was in play and same way it is today, you can pay a monthly fee for Medicare if you're retired or you can just have it taken out of your social security. Whatever the case, you can find the numbers. In 1970, Medicare on a monthly basis was $5.30. Adjusted for inflation today, it should be $32 for Medicare. But what is it? It's a hundred and four dollars plus up to two hundred thirty dollars if somebody makes actual money during their retirement

1:48:46 It's almost $300 or 10 times more than the inflation calculator tells us it should be. I can go on and on and on with this. Please don't! And the point is, is that these numbers are bullcrap and the reason for that is obvious they do not want to pay add to the Social Security balance. They should have adjusted for inflation but they're not doing it. The banks don't want to pay interest. The whole thing as a giant scam and everybody has bought into including the business writer who said that Boeing jet cost too much money John C. DeVore acts Pet Peeve of the Day! The only thing that has remained consistent is the cost of mac and cheese, that is still down there at slave wage levels... Once they created a magic magical powdered cheese it could make it cheaper okay I'm going to move us forward with the president's podcast I am pretty sure you have a clip about this too but I felt

CHAPTER 26 / 46 Discussion

USA Freedom Act, Patriot Act Sunset Provisions

President Obama urged the Senate to pass the USA Freedom Act before the midnight expiration of key surveillance tools, including roving wiretaps and lone wolf tracking. While the act is framed as ending bulk metadata collection, critics point out that it extends sunset provisions of the Patriot Act. The legislation would shift record-holding from the government to private telephone providers.

barack obama· usa freedom act· patriot act· surveillance· metadata

1:49:45 Today is one of those days where we absolutely need to listen to his, it's a short one but his entire podcast because it's coming right down to the wire and some people will hear this after the fact and you know You'll see what became of it as always. Hi everybody. As president and commander-in-chief my greatest responsibility Is the safety of the American people? Okay One moment Before one enters on the execution of one's office, one shall take the following oath or affirmation as the President of United States. I do solemnly swear or affirm that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States and will to the best of my ability preserve protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." That is your top responsibility Mr. President! I despise it when you do this You're just doing it to make us scared

1:50:36 And in our fight against terrorists, we need to use every effective tool at our disposal. Both to defend our security and protect the freedoms and civil liberties enshrined in our Constitution But tomorrow Sunday at midnight some important tools will expire. Yeah the tools are going to expire! That's because Congress has not renewed them. And because legislation that would, The USA Freedom Act is stuck in the Senate I want to be very clear about what this means. Please Today, when investigating terrorist networks our national security professionals can seek a court order to obtain certain business records Our law enforcement professionals can seek a roving wiretap To keep up with terrorists when they switch cell phones

1:51:24 We can seek a wiretap on so-called lone wolves. Suspected terrorists... So called lone wolves? Nowhere in the legislation does it mention lone wolves who may not be directly tied to a terrorist group These tools are not controversial. Yeah, they are! Since 9-11 they've been renewed numerous times. Yeah by douchebags FBI director James Comey says they are essential and that losing them would severely impact terrorism investigation Make him have to do work yeah he has to do work and uh...to convict people like Martha Stewart send him to jail But if Congress doesn't act by midnight tomorrow these tools go away Tools

1:52:05 The USA Freedom Act also accomplishes something I called for a year and half ago. It ends the bulk metadata program, the bulk collection of phone records by the government as it currently exists and puts in place new reforms. The government will no longer hold these records telephone providers will right then they'll get paid for it and it's much easier to access and they're indemnified and this is just smoke The act also includes other changes to our surveillance laws, including more transparency. To help build confidence among the American people that your privacy and civil liberties are being protected." That transparency he's talking about because of course I've read this bill- I read it last night again to reinsure myself that the bill passed on to the Senate includes extension of the sunset provision of 2005 extension of the Patriot Act

1:52:59 It's at the very bottom of the document. I don't understand why no one is mentioning this it extends what they're saying is going to go away. Yeah, but hasn't been passed by the Senate No, I know it hasn't been passed by the Senate. But if Congress doesn't act by tomorrow At midnight, these reforms will be in jeopardy as well. It doesn't have to be this way. The USA Freedom Act reflects ideas from privacy advocates, our private sector partners and our national security experts. It already passed the House of Representatives with overwhelming bipartisan support Republicans and Democrats. That doesn't happen very often." That tells you something. Now he pulls a little trick on this one... A majority of the Senate, Republicans and Democrats have voted to move it forward This is interesting the way he says that. A majority true but not the required majority for this particular type of vote So what's the problem?

CHAPTER 27 / 46 Discussion

White House Press Management, Handful of Senators

President Obama criticized a "small group of senators" for blocking the USA Freedom Act, framing the delay as a threat to national security. A recording of a White House press event shows staff abruptly ushering journalists out of the room to prevent follow-up questions. The hosts compare the tightly managed press interaction to the way guests were signaled to leave Prince's Paisley Park.

barack obama· loretta lynch· senate· press corps· paisley park

1:53:54 A small group of senators is standing in the way. These a-holes, they probably hate religious conspiracy theory nut jobs And unfortunately some folks are trying to use this debate to score political points But this shouldn't and can't be about politics This is a matter of national security Here comes the punchline Terrorists like Al Qaeda and ISIL aren't suddenly going to stop plotting against us at midnight tomorrow Guy is nuts. I think you probably have the clip that I'm gonna play next which is he was sitting, he had to sit down with country and western singer Loretta Lynch also known as our new head of Department of Justice, what was it? Attorney General. Well actually, ya know, I went in a different direction and decided to see what the public thinks about this. Okay but why don't I play these then you play the public. You gotta play the public comment first. This is the woohoo comment

1:54:50 Woohoo! Yes, the beaches are back open. Woo-hoo! Yeah! That's what the public thinks I'm gonna put that in there. I can save that one Very good, so he's sitting there and this is a planned announcement They're sitting there like oh we just said we were having coffee here Sipping a little bit of tea and then we let the journalists in with his little statement And I have a follow-up to that where they're getting kicked out Here is here are the presidents? That was his podcast It's kind of longer version He's a short version only thing that standing in the way There's a handful of senators who are resisting the

1:55:50 go away and suddenly we're dark, and heaven forbid we've got a problem where we could have prevented a terrorist attack or apprehended someone who was engaged in dangerous activity but we didn't do so simply because of inaction in the Senate. Heaven forbid! He's almost calling for the perfect timing, John. For the six-week cycle... This is a six week cycle. This is beautiful. Yeah Just to show you how these press moments work and I'm kind of surprised they left this in Listen to them The women who are in charge of publicity department there at the White House As right after he does his statement The press has questions And this was obviously no ask question deal So let's go ahead and get it done

1:56:40 Thank you. I didn't get that. Isn't that cool? That was great! That's clip of the day, you can take it

1:57:16 Wow. I worked... You have to play it again, you have to play it again It's just too funny. Okay. It reminds me as I get ready to play it, it reminds of the time when I went to was invited to Prince's Paisley Park for a party when I was in Minneapolis and what it was time to leave The party was over and you knew this because dudes would be walking around just flashing flashlights on the ground Just kind of beep-beep-beep-beep-beep And like thank you Thank you Oh okay Time to go! It's exactly the same He's prince is what he is So let's go ahead and get it done Alright? Thank you. You kind of have to see it to appreciate the full effect. Did they dim the lights and start playing some house music? Almost! Thank you! Unbelievable. Yeah, and meanwhile The United Nations report asserts encryption is a human right in the digital age... ...and that would mean encryption without well the golden key I have a clip okay what's she got

CHAPTER 28 / 46 Discussion

UK Snoopers Charter, UN Encryption Report

The UK Conservative Party is pushing for a tougher version of the "Snoopers Charter," which would require tech giants like Google and Facebook to provide authorities access to encrypted communications. This move contradicts a recent United Nations report that declared encryption and anonymity as basic human rights. Privacy activists and security experts like Philip Zimmerman warn of a wider government snooping agenda.

uk· david cameron· snoopers charter· encryption· united nations

1:58:39 This is again is our buddy pill beam. Oh good, and this is the snooping agenda clip from RT Mmm pill beams get the picture of her okay? I got it Emboldened by electoral success, the UK's ruling Conservative Party hopes to push through a tougher version of its previously rejected surveillance bill branded by critics as the snoopers charter. Well if passed this time round the new legislation will require internet giants such as Google and Facebook to give the authorities unlimited access to encrypted conversations between users. Cameron wants you ban all

1:59:16 means of private communication that's inaccessible to security agencies. The initiative comes amid a UN report held by privacy activists In the landmark document, the body has unconditionally called encryption and anonymity a basic human right. However British and US top officials don't quite share that opinion David Cameron has been spearheading the snoopers charter claiming that state security should have no information blind spot

1:59:52 Across the Atlantic, the FBI has also been accused of prying into civilians' lives on the web. Earlier we spoke to Philip Zimmerman who is the founder of a telecommunications security company who says that crackdowns on encryption are only part of a wider government snooping agenda Thank you very much for that. That's perfect lead into... Of course, this legislation still has not been published we only know I've seen this headline everywhere Oh Facebook and everyone will have to give your information There was a minor outrage fury in the UK In London parents are complaining about a survey that the London Council has been circulating amongst year six pupils so i think that's what is it 12-year olds

CHAPTER 29 / 46 Discussion

EU Radicalization Strategy, Monitoring Children

The European Union has implemented a strategy for combating radicalization that includes monitoring primary school children for "seeds of radicalization." A survey circulated among 12-year-olds in London asked questions about religious purpose, sparking concerns about Orwellian surveillance. The EU document resolves to disrupt extremist networks by monitoring the internet and community policing in places of worship and education.

european union· radicalization· terrorism· surveillance· free speech

2:00:40 year six, I think it's 12-year olds. And the survey is part of...as I found as I traced it back part of a EU initiative to find out if pupils might be radicalizing self-radicalizing or being radicalized. It was twelve 13 year olds and has questions like do you here it The radicalization leading to terrorism program, designed to quote identify the initial seeds of radicalization within children of primary school age.

2:01:17 which is, wow. This is I'd say rather Orwellian so they ask things about does God have a purpose for you and was you ever...how do you just things that shouldn't be asking kids? So I look up this program radicalization leading to terrorism program as part of the European, and we've looked at this before. Part of the European radicalization but also the... what is it? The tolerance policy then they have all that's too much to go through them it's just huge what they're trying to do but they do have a directive which I pulled

2:02:00 And this is the European Union's strategy for combating radicalization and recruitment. And it is very obvious what this is going to lead to. Terrorism is a threat to all states, all peoples... ...poses a serious threat to security of the European Union and lives of its citizens. The European Union remains determined to tackle this scourge... Scourge? Is that how you pronounce it? Scourge? SCO scourge. It's a scourge, and so doing so requires a comprehensive response we must reduce the threat by disrupting existing terrorist networks, by preventing new recruits to terrorism better protecting potential targets and improving our consequence management capabilities

2:02:40 Then they go into the challenge, Europe has experienced different types of terrorism. All this is marked up in the show notes you can look at it yourself addressing these challenges beyond the power of the government alone though no it will only be defeated with the engagement of public especially Muslims and Europe and beyond our response to counter radicalization The EU resolves too disrupt the activities of networks and individuals who draw people into terrorism ensure that voices of mainstream opinion prevail over those of extremism That's a very dangerous one. Promote yet more vigorously security, justice democracy and opportunity for all... What are you reading from? This is the EU radicalization strategy document from the radicalization group within the European Union this is government, EU government paperwork

2:03:36 disrupting the activities, this is where it kind of folds around. Disrupting the activities of the networks and individuals who draw people into terrorism that...and you know I don't know how true it is that all these people are being radicalized going over to Syria fighting coming back and gonna kill us? I don't think we really have any concrete really good examples There's nothing! This is all bullcrap But we need to spot such behavior by for example community policing and effective monitoring of the Internet There you go. That's it all the way we also need to disrupt such a behavior will limit the activities of those playing a role in radicalization including in prisons places of education or religious training and worship and by examining the issues around admittance and residents of such individuals, so they're going to be Stifling this is just free speech fascist crap yeah I have to play a clip now okay This is a good example of this kind of thinking I want you to listen carefully This is your buddy

CHAPTER 30 / 46 Discussion

Lindsey Graham, Iraq and Syria Strategy Failure

Senator Lindsey Graham questioned military and intelligence experts on the likelihood of success for the current U.S. strategy in Iraq and Syria. The experts agreed that the current configuration is not succeeding and presents a direct threat to the American homeland. Graham emphasized that failure in the region allows foreign fighters to potentially strike the U.S.

lindsey graham· iraq· syria· homeland security· cia

2:04:32 Lindsey Graham. Why is it my buddy? I just think he should be okay anyway There's your buddy Lindsey Graham who is gonna ask a couple of douchebags including Kagan who was up there This isn't one that hearing they had Kagan general Elliot or Robert Frederick Frederick him He's the fat one right no, that's Robert Oh, okay this Robert then Fredrick is the one married to Newland well, we use one of them and he Graham is got these guys and gram never really asked questions. He makes statements and then says do you agree? I love that's the way he asks yes, and then in now if you'd listen carefully this one He actually says say no Okay, you listen carefully now they think that's really cool about it is he switches between

2:05:24 Right in the middle of the whole thing, he switches from the main question which is our policy going to succeed? Say no. They all say no and then he says that you see our policies not gonna succeed right Our policy is not going to succeed. Our policy is going to create a threat to the homeland somehow he switches it to threat to the homeland and it's so slick, It's astonishing but this just part of the whole long one. Senator Graham? Well thank you here's my question does the current strategy in Iraq and Syria have any chance to succeed

2:06:00 Well, Senator that's really been the basis of our testimony and I didn't hear it so just no We'll gladly say it again. And respect you asking the question quite frankly The answer is no Does everybody agree? The answer is no does everybody agree that in the current configuration That the problems in Iraq and Syria present a direct threat to the homeland Yes. I had a conversation with the CIA director yesterday who echoed that sentiment. So, the average American needs to understand that failure in Iraq and Syria is putting the homeland at risk because so many foreign fighters are flowing in and they have the ability potentially to hit us here at home? Is that all correct? Yes. Amen! Fist bump. That guy's a dick not my friend

CHAPTER 31 / 46 Discussion

TSA Facial Recognition, Dulles Airport Pilot Program

U.S. Customs and Border Protection is testing new facial recognition technology at Dulles Airport to identify passport imposters. The system compares a traveler's live image with the photo stored on their passport's RFID chip. Critics question the necessity of the program, noting that modern passports already have high-security printed images and embedded chips.

tsa· facial recognition· dulles airport· rfid· biometric technology

2:06:58 There is some other cool stuff happening with the guys and a hole yeah total jerk South Carolina keep reelecting him we even have this was a good one the TSA body scanner lobbyist from rapiscan systems, that'll be Christopher Romig So he was a registered lobbyist for RapaScan. They're the ones that make the big body scanners. They've been taken out of the airports. Yeah, well maybe that's why he now took a job with the House Appropriations Committee's Homeland Security Subcommittee which oversees the TSA budget. I thought we weren't going to get that? President Obama promised no revolving door! Oh it's all been revolving doors since he got in. Here is Charlie Rose CBS

2:07:48 about a new TSA initiative. This bright light greeting some of the 19,000 plus international travelers who pass through customs every day at Dulles Airport outside Washington DC could be the future of airport security. It's part a new facial recognition technology being tested by US Customs officers aiming to catch passport imposters. Customs and Border Protection Deputy Assistant Commissioner John Wagner We do see people trying to use a legitimate document but it belonging to someone else to conceal their identity and we are vulnerable

2:08:34 And I have to say that, uh... you know, TSA then- Can I ask a question? You bring these all your clips are always initiate questions. I'm gonna ask you something Okay The modern passport the modern USA passport has a chip in it now Yes RFID chip The chip has your picture on it. So you could take the passport and put a phony picture on there, even though nowadays... Do you know that for a fact? It's not e- yes I do. And it is not only that but the picture on your passport is now printed as a picture as that page. It's not like a glued on photo like it used to be With the rivet remember that with the rivets in it. I don't remember. Your photo had rivets! There used to be a photo

2:09:26 a real photo that was like somehow pushed onto the passport. Now it's actually printed as a page, much like one of those Kodak photobooks. You know it has got your picture built in and then on the chip there is your picture so what is this even all about? What's the point unless somebody hacked the passport to such an extreme If you could do that, you'd change the name and everything. And so facial recognition is not going to prove anything that you look like some other guy." I'm pretty sure the lead in... This is a waste of money! There ya go. CBS this morning was given rare access to this... Ooh, rare access because it's a promotion. ...demonstration of the technology comparing a photo and passport with the person presenting them The computer compares the two and rates how likely they are to be a match

2:10:14 When I presented another person's passport, the computer caught it in seconds. Wow! Fantastic! Alerting the officer to investigate further." Now remember what he said at the beginning is this is just a small test but part of a bigger program and then I have to say there was some balance although course they had a guy who was all-in man on the street thing some balance... I got another question yeah are you telling me that you have a passport which has got a picture on it of you? And so you present the passport and then the computer looks at you and says, oh no that's not him. Better than a person can do?

CHAPTER 32 / 46 Discussion

Biometric Border Testing, Mass Transit Surveillance

A biometric pilot program in San Diego will begin collecting face and iris scans of individuals entering the U.S. from Mexico on foot. Privacy advocates warn that these tests are a precursor to expanded surveillance in public places and mass transit systems across the country. Customs officials maintain the technology is merely a tool to verify identity and that images will be deleted after the pilot ends.

biometrics· iris scans· san diego· surveillance· privacy

2:10:53 I don't believe so. I do not think a computer has that type of intelligence yet, I don't think it works for them. Better than... So you walk through with my passport and say I've got the wrong passport and I've got Mexicans on the passport A guy looks at this is says okay You're good to go. I'll go through in the computer says hey wait a minute This guy's not a Mexican? This is bullcrap! Yeah, I know what it is but that's not a question That's a statement What's your question The question is, who are they kidding? Oh. Everybody! Pilot project at Dulles is part of a larger test of biometric technology This fall customs will begin collecting face and iris scans of people entering and returning from Mexico on foot At a San Diego area border crossing That's how we'll know if you're Mexican or not Harley Geiger is senior counsel at the Center for Democracy & Technology

2:11:42 The real concern is not so much this particular pilot program, it is that this particular pilot program is a step towards a larger program. Not just in ports of entry but also in public places and mass transit systems throughout the domestic United States I thought that was really good they put that in there. That was a surprise, I don't think. Mass transits? Everywhere! So when we get on the UFNE I have to have my eyeballs scanned?! It's already being done New York has it everywhere. The bombers made a big stink about this so we did-that's why trains are so much better than planes makes travel a little more cumbersome, but if it's keeping us safe then it is worthwhile. The images are saved in a secure database and will be held as long as this pilot program is going. What could possibly go wrong? Customs says those images will be deleted

2:12:37 Officials there say, you know you're already required to present your passport when you enter the country. This is a photo ID all the technology is doing it's verifying You are who you say you are great message fantastic message this already exists as already being done It's just technology to verify let's hand her back to Gail Gale alright sounds good Thank You Chris sounds good Dip shit sounds good that another man on the street response yes the beaches are back open Of course, this technology will not work for the shapeshifting Jews. We have a few people to thank for shows

CHAPTER 33 / 46 Discussion

Donor Thank-Yous, Taylor Swift Comparison, International Producers

The hosts read a series of donor notes, including one from Jennifer Mallet, whose children enjoy the show's jingles as much as Taylor Swift songs. Producers from Australia, Japan, the Netherlands, and Finland are recognized for their contributions. The segment includes "jobs" jingles and "karma" for various life events, such as birthdays and graduations.

donald mallet· taylor swift· japan· netherlands· finland

2:13:46 726 yep including And I do have a note here. I have to read it because it's a good note So we know that used apart of in the newsletter this is Donald Mallet she was actually Money was sent in by Jennifer's wife and wanted him to get credit. She says thank you for your courage I appreciate the quality of your show production in addition to The humor and the analysis you both provide my husband is turning 34, she's got all this down there He said loyal listener diligently hitting people out there in their mouth And then she has huge caps all the time Our little girls sing along with all of the jingles like they are Taylor Swift songs. Boom shakalaka! And Dvorak dot org slash NA are their favorites." This is a little-known secret about our show... The kids love the jingles. You know, marketers need to take note. Yeah you know it's an old proven thesis it's not that we're doing anything we're doing nothing including the newsletter and anything else new We're proud no agenda family

2:14:49 Listening gives my husband and I great topics for further analysis and discussions. Taylor Swift, I can't get over the Taylor Swift thing We're like to not we're just like Taylor Swift Yes, noodling the money so you have discussions amongst ourselves and with our friends. I don't want to lose the show ever Here's my donation. I would like it if you could record this donation on behalf of the birthday boy Don O'Malley he is an excellent husband and father we are three lucky girls Would you please say hi to our daughter Charlotte O'Malley? Oh Hi Charlotte. Age 8 and Delilah O'Malley. Hi Delilah! Age 6, they will flip out! Anyway she was hoping this note would come in earlier but it didn't it came in on Saturday. So I want to thank her and Donald and he's on the list Sir Greg Worley in Evington Virginia 133 33

2:15:48 Loves the show long time no listener DSC fan John Sims in spring, Texas 131 31 James Murray in Houston, Texas Wet down there Sam Lung in Toronto Ontario one two three four five Josh sir Richard Moffitt In Milwaukee Wisconsin one two three four five Joshua pap and we had a lot of one two three four five two three four five six is very people like to number Coincidences. Joshua Papp in Reservoir, Victoria Australia won $111.11 Dame Astrid Duchess of Japan. Good to hear from the dame. Seems to be a lot of distraction going on in Japan right now she says volcanoes blowing off making sure the earthquake machine is still working something is afoot but thanks to you I am prepared! Much love to you much love. Be careful out there

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2:17:32 Sir Stephan Boe in Clear Lake. Could be Stephen. Could be, Wisconsin? Oh it probably is Steve because he calls himself Sir Steve of Western Wisconsin He also says...he also hands out a 73 shout-out to us K0SRB Sir Victor Greg in Decatur, Georgia 69-69 if they as well as Nathaniel Starlin in Oh man Bucharest Bucharest Ohio I think Buc No he's got a deuce or use Cyrus or by Cirrus by Cirrus you service. I don't know do Cyrus don't yeah

2:18:15 Put the next neighboring town down next time. Velo in Eindhoven, Netherlands 69-69 he says Turing John trying to pronounce Dutch is priceless mock me Noel Vincente in Morristown New Jersey 6666 Peter Colvin Ballymena, UK. Somewhere in Antrim area. He says he sent a note to me I'll look it up Peter Colvin I'll look it up Natasha Ulrich in Point Pleasant Beach New Jersey 5678 No depressing dud show please she writes but Tom I guess that was my threat Hold on so Peter Colvin has a birthday shot? I think thats what we missed Oh you better put him on the list Yeah somehow I missed that sorry man got it

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2:20:07 in the middle of nowhere, that is. Michael Siegenthaler in Phoenix Arizona 5510 these are all 5510s and Daniel Osteland in White Bear Township Minnesota 5510 and we go to $55 from Christopher Gray in Covington Louisiana. Wend Miller in Medford Lakes New Jersey with 5432 will get your karma at the end take the karma for what it's worth Eric Hockel in Berlin, Deutschland 52. Raleigh Ricama in Helsinki Finland He says thank you for your entertainment we're here waiting for the Russians They should be there any moment by C Paul Kirschel and Medford Oregon 5150 What does he say there something take a look

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2:21:48 I've been avoiding donating because climate change is basic physics and a simple energy balance, but with Greenpeace reporting Chinese emissions plummeting and number one oil producer. And then it cuts off. Well that's disappointing. Send it again man! I don't know what you're saying. I don't know what he's saying. That's why they didn't read it. Todd LG in Katy Texas 50. Raleigh Hawk in Anna Illinois Jefferson C Post in Easton Massachusetts nuts Richard Fox in Austin, Texas. Which I believe is down the street from you. Mike Dodds... It's just up the creek actually as we say now. Up the S-Creek. Grant in Ontario Canada is Mike Dodds Gary Wiley in Squim Washington

2:22:36 50, which is right down the street from my other place. Alejandro Vasquez in Denver California, Colorado. Rob Van Dyke in Herpin. Dustin Martin in Salem Oregon. We got a lot of fifties today which is nice. Bob Wassenaar. Wassenaar in Old Trash. Utrecht. Utrecht. U-Utrecht. Utrecht! Close. He's in Utrecht I want to teach you a new Dutch word when you're done Okay, Sir Mark Tanner in Whittier California comes in constantly he is great guy Sir Bogdan Lehandro

2:23:18 Roanoke, Texas which I always find strange. Sir Alan Bean who's being upgraded have a note from him and sir Paul from Horseheads both of them at 50 bucks we have two little notes i think one of them was interesting let me see Good list. Thank you everybody does a good list today? Thank you Yeah, very thank you a lot of lesser ones to get a lot of good notes in the other ones too I want to congratulate both on your informative entertaining programs This is a from sir bean in Oakland your theories and analysis very good I'm gonna read this but I enjoy also your predictions for example predicting Pope Francis on February of 2013 mm-hmm among another others by name yes my name and then

2:24:05 Sir Horsehead, he has a really small written note which I can barely read. Oh he says... yeah this is good He says that he was watching some television and heard somebody with vocal fry and up talking And he says thanks to the neuro-linguistic programming we provide he was forced to donate! It worked! Yeah whatever works. Vocal Fryyyy Donate Fryyyy Donate And that concludes our great list of today's... contributors and producers and executive producers, and everybody in between. It lifted my spirits I have a stride in my step and a song in my heart John Yeah...and a bunch of pills in your gut Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! And jobs Let's vote for jobs! You've got to comment Always gotta hand out the jobs comment everybody Thank you very much We will be doing another show on Thursday obviously Please go to Dvorak dot org slash n

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Birthday Announcements, Knighting of Sir Up Arrow and Sir Corwin

The show concludes its donor segment with birthday wishes for several listeners and their family members. Two new knights, Sir Up Arrow and Sir Corwin, are officially inducted into the No Agenda Round Table. The traditional list of "rewards" for new knights, including "hookers and blow" and "mutton and mead," is recited.

birthdays· knighting· hookers and blow· no agenda· round table

2:25:10 It's your birthday, birthday. On the list today Angela Castaneda says happy birthday to her son Jose Gonzalez Donald O'Malley turned 34 in the 26 Jean-Claude Schmitt says happy birthday to Sir Andre Schmidt Knight of Lake Geneva also celebrate him 28 James Ogilvie is to have his birthday to his daughter Rowan, who turned 18 on the 29th. Sir JD, Baron of Silicon Valley celebrating today and Peter Colvin also celebrating today he turns 28! Happy Birthday from all your friends and buddies and family and relatives at the best podcast in the universe!

2:25:55 And I do want to again thank everyone who came in under the $50 cutoff for mentioning on the show. A lot of people upgrading from five a month, to 11, to 12, some to 33... It's really appreciated! So your truthful note helped John it's always good. Thomas Villa if you could step up here please and oh careful! You need to... John? You almost hit him Also, I was reaching for the sword and he comes by bumps. I gotta be careful Corwin Underwood both of you please Pronounce the KD

2:26:43 Sir Up Arrow and Sir Corwin, both of you knights of the Noah Jenner Round Table. Gentlemen for you I have hookers and blow, rent boys in Chardonnay, raspberry pies and breakfast burritos, pork ribs and pale ale, drams and EMT, sake and sushi, dos equis and Dutch dominatrix, cannabis and cabernet, wenches and beer, vodka and vanilla, sparkling cider and escorts... ...and mutton and mead Go to NoahGeneration.com slash rings and Eric the Show will get them out to you as soon as possible, thank you again! Thank You highly appreciated I have a number of ways and places we can go but i'm curious see what you got oh this uh interesting this uh... We didn't talk about it on Thursday the IRS

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IRS Database Hack, Fraudulent Tax Refunds

The IRS reported a database hack allegedly originating from Russia, but an Inspector General report revealed a more significant issue: the agency paid out $2.3 billion in fraudulent refunds to fake taxpayers with foreign bank accounts. Critics suggest the news of the Russian hack may be used to obfuscate the agency's failure to prevent massive refund fraud.

irs· hacking· russia· tax returns· inspector general

2:27:28 claims that their... one of their databases was hacked. Of course it originated in Russia, of course! Of course the criminal investigation unit confirmed by a DHS official I've actually used this system that was hacked This is the one if you have- if your renting an apartment like I am where you have to prove that you've paid your taxes What's it called? It has a certain name You start proving you paid your taxes Yeah but yes What if you're behind a little bit in your tax like maybe a year? Well, it's just we have to at least you have to be current. You have to be current It's what is that thing called I can't find it now

2:28:15 Okay. Well, but what's interesting is that is the news. What is not the news? Is the IRS admitting after a report by their inspector general that they have been refunding 2.3 billion dollars in our taxpayer money to fake US taxpayers who all have bank accounts foreign bank accounts These are fraudulent returns and it's 2.3 billion dollars! It's outrageous Yeah, but that's not in the news Oh hack Russians Putin I'm thinking the whole hack thing may be bullshit It's not a very important database that was hacked So i'm just not gonna buy it Seems to me if you want to obfuscate some shitty ass report about your performance Just giving away money Maybe you'd wanna come up with something You gotta track down two billion dollars

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Al Roker and Jeremy Piven, Entourage Movie Promotion

Jeremy Piven appeared on The Today Show to promote the "Entourage" movie, which features a cameo by Matt Lauer. During the segment, Al Roker expressed mock anger over being cut from the film. The hosts share a personal anecdote about Al Roker's personality, describing him as self-centered based on past professional interactions.

al roker· jeremy piven· entourage· matt lauer· today show

2:29:14 You know how you talked about, you run into Al Roker. Yeah I've worked with him yes and he's a dick self-centered dick well you say that all the time but I wonder one of the things we talk about on this show is how people always have to kind of tell the truth at some point it always slips out you can't stop slips out or sometimes just its overt and made to sound like a lie I mean, there's other ways of doing it. Yeah now somebody comes out and they say something yeah oh i sent the place on fire that's...I set the place on fire when they did so let's play Oh you mean to make making a joke? Oh yeah! Of course I did that when they did So let's play and tell me what do you think this is? I just thought it was kind of reminding me of you for some reason This is Jeremy Piven on The Today Show talking

2:30:06 I guess... Jeremy Piven is from the Entourage. He's promoting the Entourage movie and he who's the guy who's the main guy that interviews there? Matt? Yeah, Lauer. Lauer is in the movie and apparently he's in a spot in the movie that they can't remove him And so they're talking about this a little bit then Roker comes up because I guess he was in the moving got cut out Okay again my experience with Al Roker Is he self-centered, likes to steal punchlines, likes to stand in front of you That's my experience with him. I'll be honest with you, this is true. I've never liked Al. As you can see he's on a boat with cartoon characters no one likes Al He gets the worst jobs ever If there is a sequel to this movie... There he is right there! You are dead to me Pippin! Something bad is going to happen to Al in Florida

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Carnegie Pronunciation, PBS NewsHour Funding

A segment on the PBS NewsHour highlights the specific pronunciation of "Carnegie" used by professional announcers. While many people say "Car-neh-gee," the official funding credits for the Carnegie Corporation of New York use a different emphasis. The hosts note that high-level sponsors are very particular about how their names are pronounced in public media.

carnegie· pbs newshour· pronunciation· bnsf railway· lincoln financial

2:31:25 He said at the beginning of the preface, this is true. Yeah he means it this is how Al Roker operates I don't think just because he lost all that weight I don't think that he became a nice guy I just don't It's his personality you can kind of feel it doesn't matter I thought it was amusing that somebody would come on the show and just do that Anyway, I watched... Hold on. The only good phone is a landline and the phone should be made out of Bakelite! Phones hail Apple it's time for your tech news everybody It's Sunday that's another one John and I got a little piece of tech news bring you the tech news why don't you kick it off with some tech news this is not really tech news This is a category of pronunciation that happens to do with a technology oriented university Now I'm always told by the experts and people who have been there

2:32:20 would everybody pronounce this as Carnegie, like the Carnegie Library? I thought it was Carnegie. Yes! That's what you would think. Yeah that's what everybody says they always say if you say Carnegie which i said when i was a kid they correct you to say car-neh-gee yeah in New York they do yeah that's what they always do now So I'm listening, and I just thought about this. I'm watching the news hour and they're grappling through all their sponsors, advertisers, and Carnegie's one of them. And the guy is a professional announcer and he...they've been saying this, I never noticed it before but they've been saying this for years. They are pronouncing it in certain way that you know if there was being mispronounced, they'd be called out on because there's a lot of money involved. And this is the public channel. Now listen to the way it's pronounced.

2:33:06 Major funding for the PBS NewsHour has been provided by BNSF Railway. Lincoln Financial, committed to helping you take charge of your life and become your own chief life officer. Carnegie Corporation of New York supporting innovations in education democratic engagement and the advancement of international peace and security at carnegie.org Yeah. That's how you pronounce it? I'm glad we've cleared that up! Well, it's been bugging me. Clearly...I really only have one piece of tech news but it was so apparent to me You recall all the tech horny people who do these tech shows Tech-corny They were talking about the Verizon acquisition of America Online as well It's very obvious they're buying for the mobile ad platform

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Verizon AOL Acquisition, Broadband Subsidies

The FCC is exploring a plan to provide broadband subsidies for low-income individuals, which aligns with Verizon's acquisition of AOL. Verizon stands to benefit from government subsidies for AOL's remaining 2 million dial-up customers. This move is seen as a way for Verizon to recoup its $4 billion acquisition cost through long-term government-funded broadband programs.

verizon· aol· fcc· broadband· subsidies

2:34:03 And my analysis was, no there's a 2 million dial-up customers and they're going to go after subsidy from the government. Well bingo boom shakalaka wouldn't you know it? New York Times FCC chief seeks broadband plan to aid the poor specifically a study to be done for Verizon to see if the...I think it's $9 and something a month they're talking about for some version of broadband that would be rolled out to those who do not have it. And it would be, it's kind of like they're taking from the Obama phone department and creating broadband but I think this was, and this is FCC you know? The FCC they got all kinds of connections To me it seems like right on schedule although the acquisition is not done as far as I know

2:34:51 You know, boom. We've got our 2 million people they're going to be subsidized we're going right after the government money for it so they were just rolling I pay for the or the acquisition that over time easily easily Well think about a two million pretty slick two million times ten a month all right Yes 20 million times 12 and paper AOL well They're talking about four billion Oh But if you look at a tent that's just the proposed number But if you look at it, just the value 10x per person because not just one year. You'll have them over a lifetime and make so much sense

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Microsoft Cross-Platform Strategy, Amazon Echo Timer

Microsoft is expanding its Cortana assistant to Google and Apple platforms as part of a new cross-platform strategy. Meanwhile, the Amazon Echo (Alexa) is gaining popularity for its kitchen utility, specifically its hands-free timer and calendar integration. One host shares that the device is particularly useful for setting multiple timers while cooking.

microsoft· cortana· siri· amazon echo· alexa

2:35:28 But I think what's the news you're going to hear by the techernies is, uh... You know it's a bomb-o-phone and we have to pay broadbent subsidy. Whatever that's kind of the way it goes your voice mm-hmm And I want to make small predictions not really yet. I think Microsoft is going to come back with in a big way. I like what I'm seeing from them They're really going Cross-platform Cortana is now coming to Google and an Apple that's their version of Siri, and hey Google I think you trigger it. I know you go okay Google Hey, Siri hey Siri, and what's the other one the echo device? I'm not gonna say her name Not gonna say your name. Hey Kim stir yeah It's Alexa Alexa apparently Siri still works very well when you say Syria so my a Syria So my Tana

2:36:26 So, Buzzkill Jr. got one of those things... What? Oh an Echo? Yeah he says the greatest thing about it as far as he likes it to He says the greatest thing about is you put in the kitchen and he also noted that from anywhere in the house they will hear you How many have told you this I'll tell what he likes You say their name and set a timer for three minutes And she tells..and you can say how much left on the timer She tells you how much is left Yeah, he says that. And I was when he told me that because you never mentioned the timer. Well there could be...that could be useful but it's like a hundred dollars each. How much does that thing cost? A hundred bucks if your prime member. It's 100 bucks for a very expensive timer. It does other things and they just integrated Google Calendar so you can ask her what's on my calendar for today or this week. Can put entries into the calendar not yet not yet now then its still good. But the reordering thing I'm using a lot

2:37:20 What's that? I played you the whole recording. Oh, please get me some more pills okay? I'm gonna give you one Sudafed And now everyone's thing. I got an award No, or I got an award. I did don't say what well I'll look for him people were very excited about this award that I received I saw it on Twitter and Let me find it for you. I mention one thing, I tell one story about Danny the drug dealer Immediately I'm getting awards from the cannabis society. The bowl after bowl successful stoner Saturday pick is Adam Curry of the No Agenda Show, successful throughout his life despite being a stoner. It's not fair!

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McLaughlin Group Predictions, Summer Crime Spike

The McLaughlin Group's recent episode featured a dire prediction from John McLaughlin that violent crime in American metropolitan areas will spike during the summer of 2015. The hosts discuss the highly scripted nature of the show and wonder where McLaughlin obtained the data for such a specific and ominous forecast.

mclaughlin group· john mclaughlin· eleanor clift· crime rate· predictions

2:38:15 There you go. So please don't... You've been clean and sober for as long as I've known ya! But even when, even when I was... That's not true but no that certainly is not true As long as I have known the new you And now your popping pills and smoking dope Hey man! This is what divorce does to you baby It's all over, I don't know how to handle it Oh man Um I have one more this is a McLaughlin group Oh God. Just at the end there- It's so hard to watch, but Gloucester looks like he's gonna drop dead on this set! Well we know this thing is highly scripted

2:38:53 Yes, we had the show's extremely years ago. We should mention this again Yeah Please years ago he had one of the producers of the show from early on a sentence and run down on the whole Show and how it operates I don't know if you still listens or not But he says the thing is so highly produced And it's very scripted and so they go from person to person they already They practiced their lines in the whole thing which makes sense when that that Eleanor cliff clip that you played Where she was it again? She had there. It's really good yet. She was right on with us for once yes I don't remember what now So I gotta think that at the end when they do those predictions... It's about the airline hacker. Oh yes, right right. She said this isn't yeah exact not from this guy she said oh good so they have these predictions at the end and you know some it's usually something stupid like who's gonna win the triple crown but you know stuff like this and McLaughlin has this throwaway as his prediction a violent crime rate in America's metropolitan areas will spike this summer bye-bye

2:39:56 What does he know that we don't know? Where did that come from?! I don't know. It was not discussed on the show, it just throws us off. A violent crime rate is going to spike this summer? Yeah! Really who doesn't know what we do now... I have no idea where you got this from. No idea. Our buddy Mikhail Shakersvely remember him? The crazy president of Georgia Yeah, I have a clip. Oh and here's the crazy guy was eating his Thai and he's married to a Dutch girl Is that the guy? Yeah that was the guy who is head of Georgia Here's the clip it starts with a D but its supposed to say Georgia Stooge Ukraine president has appointed the former leader of the Republic of Georgia Mikhail Saakashvili as governor of the southern Odessa region

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Mikheil Saakashvili, Odessa Governor Appointment

Former Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili has been appointed as the governor of the Odessa region in Ukraine. Saakashvili, who is wanted in Georgia for embezzlement, was granted Ukrainian citizenship to take the post. The move is seen as a provocative appointment by the Ukrainian government involving a figure closely tied to U.S. State Department interests.

mikheil saakashvili· georgia· ukraine· odessa· embezzlement

2:39:56 What does he know that we don't know? Where did that come from?! I don't know. It was not discussed on the show, it just throws us off. A violent crime rate is going to spike this summer? Yeah! Really who doesn't know what we do now... I have no idea where you got this from. No idea. Our buddy Mikhail Shakersvely remember him? The crazy president of Georgia Yeah, I have a clip. Oh and here's the crazy guy was eating his Thai and he's married to a Dutch girl Is that the guy? Yeah that was the guy who is head of Georgia Here's the clip it starts with a D but its supposed to say Georgia Stooge Ukraine president has appointed the former leader of the Republic of Georgia Mikhail Saakashvili as governor of the southern Odessa region

2:40:54 And they made him Ukrainian. Yeah, but he's also he's wanted in Georgia He's wanted for embezzlement and a couple other things They literally want him to go to jail. He is one of our boys Well yeah course he is now and now he's Running Ukraine's Odessa region yeah It's hilarious. Because he was clearly in with the State Department and he instilled, what is it? George Bush International Airport in Georgia. The guy said... I know somebody did that. I think it was him yeah but come on!

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Russian Travel Blacklist, SWIFT Alternative

Russia has issued a travel blacklist for several European Union officials, including former UK Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg. In response to international sanctions, Russia is also promoting an alternative to the SWIFT banking system, which reportedly has 100 countries connected. The "Turkish Stream" pipeline project is also expected to begin in the coming weeks.

russia· blacklist· nick clegg· swift· banking

2:41:38 There's a couple more F-Russia things we have to be looking at. Now, we're starting up with the... Well first of all there is a blacklist, a travel black list for European Union members including Nick Clegg and a couple other... But Clegg can't travel? He can't go to Russia! We got a list all the Russia. Oh, yeah, Russia does this they had they kept we have a list remember our lists What's that thing called terrorism no? No it has different name But I'm not be I'm not able to tap into your history today for some reason I've no idea anyway, but yeah these are bad blacklists

2:42:20 And everyone... And Russia does this all the time. Of course they do, but I blame them. Everybody's up in arms. They will be... Oh they're all up in arms! Oh Nick Clegg what he want to do with Russia? I don't know and Russia now backing The Swift alternative which I think has a hundred countries connected to it so for international Bank transfers And I don't see much more. But of course the Turkish stream is going to start in the next few weeks. Well before you get off of Britain, let's at least play one more British clip. Okay? Which i think it a good one because there's humor involved. Yeah always with the Brits one way or another and this is the British nuke sub scandal

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British Nuclear Submarine Whistleblower, William McNeely

Royal Navy engineer William McNeely blew the whistle on security flaws within the UK's Trident nuclear submarine program. McNeely alleged that security guards fail to check bags and that missile compartments have been converted into gyms with weights near firing units. The Royal Navy denied the claims, and McNeely turned himself in to the police, facing potential imprisonment.

royal navy· trident· william mcneely· nuclear weapons· whistleblower

2:43:10 This week a British Royal Navy engineer blew the whistle on the UK's Trident nuclear weapons system. A disaster is waiting to happen, that's how William McNeely described the nuclear-powered submarines. McNeely allegations include lax security with guards failing to check passes and bags. The whistleblower highlighted the risk of someone bringing a bomb on board and committing a large-scale terrorist attack. He also claimed that most of the equipment on the submarine doesn't work properly, and people can easily access all areas The nuclear missile compartment has reportedly been transformed into a gym with weights being used around firing units. The engineer branded himself in to police after making his concerns public but he says he has no regrets and that it was his wish to serve the public that made him speak out

2:43:58 Prison would be such a nice reward for sacrificing everything to warn the public and government. The Royal Navy denies the allegations of security flaws, saying its submarine fleet is operated under the most stringent safety regime and according to them British nukes are safe and they've been checked by senior figures too. The fate of the man who blew the whistle though is still unclear but the experience of others who tried to walk a similar path in UK suggests he won't get off lightly Yeah, throw the book at them. Well they're doing a number of things have got their legislation on the way and they also see nor they reporting in the UK North Korea thousands of their hackers could destroy cities Oh Yep, how are you gonna do that by hacking? You gotta destroy a city by hack I will read from professor Kim Hwang Kwan who defected from the regime

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North Korean Cyber Threat, Mr. Robot TV Series

Defectors from North Korea claim the regime's military hacking units could destroy entire cities through cyberattacks. The hosts dismiss these claims as propaganda designed to support cybersecurity legislation. They also recommend a new television series, "Mr. Robot," which depicts a psychopathic hacker and is set to premiere on the USA Network.

north korea· hacking· cybersecurity· mr robot· volatile cedar

2:43:58 Prison would be such a nice reward for sacrificing everything to warn the public and government. The Royal Navy denies the allegations of security flaws, saying its submarine fleet is operated under the most stringent safety regime and according to them British nukes are safe and they've been checked by senior figures too. The fate of the man who blew the whistle though is still unclear but the experience of others who tried to walk a similar path in UK suggests he won't get off lightly Yeah, throw the book at them. Well they're doing a number of things have got their legislation on the way and they also see nor they reporting in the UK North Korea thousands of their hackers could destroy cities Oh Yep, how are you gonna do that by hacking? You gotta destroy a city by hack I will read from professor Kim Hwang Kwan who defected from the regime

2:44:52 It's said the country's military hacking unit could pose a feasible threat to a city. And the reason North Korea has been harassing other countries is to demonstrate that they have the cyber war capacity, their cyber attacks would have similar impacts as military attacks killing people and destroying cities, the professor says This is bullcrap. Yes, but we are you know most kids who are hackers they're like good musicians They start when they're very young and they get enthralled with computers And they get pretty good at understanding how they operate and then they can kind of hack their way through systems and do whatever they do How do you do that in North Korea when there's doing you'd you can't until you get to college? You can't even use a computer

2:45:33 How does that work? This is only meant to shepherd in the cyber security legislation. It doesn't work at all, of course it's scam! It's bullcrap and by the way I want to recommend a new show... A podcast? No no, a TV show. As we most of us know that Persons of Interest thing is going to be phased out And so that show's gonna be done. Gee, sorry I didn't get the memo. You never watched anything? No of course I don't But this show is really good it's about a psychopathic kind of crazy hacker and the shows called Mr Robot and it's available you can watch online It's going to USA Networks it will release later in June but its quite entertaining Do you have a clip? no I have not clip Not bad idea maybe ill get a clip for the next show Be on the lookout for volatile Cedar

2:46:24 Volatile cedar. Is that a hacker? No, it's a PR term from Checkpoint Security And they say, oh we've uncovered a very successful long running cyber surveillance campaign called Volatile Cedar. And if you look for... Yeah well exactly! If you look for it there's there must be 100 links from websites you've never heard who are either automatically republishing or just republish nothing really I didn't find anything from Kaspersky or any of those guys It's just when you know what they had they got a good name so it is clearly Though every article ends up with you know the phone number to call. You know your security expert at checkpoint But let's just keep an eye on it will see we'll see if it gets any legs Probably not and There's no do we ever close out tech news? Yeah, we can well unless you're still doing a talk about tech I

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MDMA for Anxiety, Big Pharma Ecstasy Patents

Pharmaceutical companies are exploring the use of MDMA (ecstasy) to treat anxiety in terminally ill patients. While the drug was originally used in psychiatric analysis before becoming illegal, Merck holds patents related to its production. The hosts warn against the long-term neurological effects of the drug, despite the renewed interest from Big Pharma.

mdma· ecstasy· big pharma· merck· anxiety

2:47:30 The things we will not talk about today is John F. Carey's bicycle fall. I had Sanjay Gupta on this morning explaining the type of fracture and how dangerous, please no news. He broke something? I didn't know that. He broke his femur or something We don't know It was because he lost his balance and the balancing mechanism was just in the inner ear Well that head you know it's top-heavy Big Pharma getting in on more drugs. Of course, MDMA was initially developed or not initially developed for but eventually became a drug for psychosis analysis. Psychiatrists use it. It wasn't illegal for a long time. E? Yes. MDMA the basis of e and moly and all this other stuff

2:48:18 And now Big Pharma is saying, hmmm... we might be able to use ecstasy to alleviate anxiety for terminally ill patients. Think about it. It's good and go out totally wasted and in love The patent for MDMA is held by Merck they have two patents I'm pretty sure that you know everyone knows that this MDM a Molly Xe all this stuff is big business, and they want to get in on it yeah Very did people should not take these drugs. This is not a good drug you ever take inhibitors It causes all kinds of long-term problems have you ever taken ecstasy? No God, I know I have not actually and I can say I haven't like man dead honest about it I know about the drug and I knew what his mechanisms were and I'm not taking that sort of drug It's it's not good for ya. No, I haven't either That just said long term he taken everyone. I know there's taken a lot of it They do have this dopey look on their face lives

CHAPTER 46 / 46 Discussion

Baghdad Hotel Bombings, Saudi Mosque Attack, Sign-off

The Islamic State claimed responsibility for car bombings at two hotels in Baghdad and a suicide attack at a Shiite mosque in Saudi Arabia. These attacks are viewed as a strategy to incite sectarian conflict between Sunnis and Shiites. The show concludes with a reference to the "28 pages" of the 9-11 Commission report and a final sign-off from Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak.

baghdad· saudi arabia· isis· shiite mosque· 9-11 report

2:49:19 Really yeah, don't be look yeah That's something to you But they're getting in on the action and I think that's kind of all I got John there's more things that I'm working on I think we're good. This is what I want to play this clip just with a commentary on the Mideast bombings clip where they also bombed Saudi Arabia in Iraq today, the Islamic State claimed responsibility for car bombs targeting two prominent hotels in Baghdad. The blast lit up the night sky last night killing at least 15 people and wounding scores more

2:50:09 Hours later, daylight revealed how badly the newly renovated hotels had been hit. Windows were shattered and wreckage was everywhere. A third bomb was defused early this morning. Islamic State militants also targeted a mosque in Saudi Arabia today killing at least four people. The explosion erupted outside of Shiite Mosque in an eastern port city. The suicide bomber who was disguised as a woman detonated his explosives as worshippers gathered for Friday prayers. A week ago, a similar attack killed 21 people." Okay? So we have again... there's a long-term strategy of rebelization so one of the things you want to do if your government front operation like ISIS, you stir up crap between the Shiites and this and the Sunnis in

2:51:01 Saudi Arabia, the Saudis know this is going on. They're getting mad because they realize that there's something... you know that this is being done on purpose and they're gonna start arming and they've realized it their fingers been pointed at them your next. And someone wrote a note to us could there be a connection between Iran, the Saudis in 28 pages of the 9-11 Commission report? Maybe it might be something in there. I think there's something there too possibly 28 pages a lot when they you know if you look at single spaced oh, yeah So with that beyond the lookout for the six-week cycle should be It's right around today and tomorrow June 1st many times We've done this show and then something big happens right after the show so well They always do that why give us them scoop? The haters say hey, how's their haters John that just haters Haters but be on the lookout for that

2:52:03 It goes right in line with the president's own words that Al-Qaeda and ISIS and ISIL, they don't just stop terror at midnight. Uh uh! That's when they start all them lone wolves... Also, the wrong Biden kid died. That sucks Yeah I agree with that Why couldn't it have been the drug addict who is shilling in Ukraine for oil companies? I don't want anyone dead, but crap. No we don't like brain cancer. We're not getting any cancer Yeah that was kind of a loss yeah, yeah sucks. They seem like a pretty good guy All right everybody enjoy LGBT pride month And I am Adam Curry or I'm coming to you from FEMA region 6 in the crackpot condo downtown Austin Texas in the morning I'm Adam curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I've uncovered this scam of inflation

2:53:05 I'm John C. Dvorak and boy has my wine gotten expensive We'll be here on Thursday remember us at dvorak dot org slash na adios mofos We need to kill them we need to kill them bomb them bomb them Bomb them and bomb them again We need to kill them

2:53:56 We need to kill them! And then bomb them, and bomb them again. bomb them again. We need to kill them! Bomb, bomb them again. Bomb them again. We need to kill them and bomb them again. The science is in. Science! Yes the beaches are back open! Woohoo! Yeah! The violent crime rate in America's metropolitan areas will spike this summer bye-bye

2:55:14 Adios, mofo.