Lying Weasels

00:00 Some skank from the hood. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Thursday March 19th 2015 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 705 This is no agenda Depressed from a full week of wet grey skies From the last time on this trip Broadcasting live from Rotterdam The Netherlands In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley which is not Netherlands I'm John C. Dvorak And you ask me if I'm in the mood to start the show. Why do I sound like I'm not in the mood? Well, it was kind of uninspired It was I was thinking and thinking and thinking they couldn't come up with anything other than that I thought I'd bounce off your comment. I'm so in the mood John bouncing it off I'd like to just hold hands tell each other a secret and braid our hair together Yeah, I think your hair needs braiding

00:53 Well in the morning to all of the new Dutch listeners to the program. We have new Dutch listeners? Well we must, the show has been mentioned all over the press once again It was mentioned this time because stuff I've seen is mostly... Did you see the pictures? He just said you're a podcaster in some sort of derisive way. Did you see the picture I sent you? Yeah it's incredible I mean, every single gossip magazine again. They're really hard up for gossip over there aren't they? And then you know... I go into the supermarket... No offense to you by the way! Well offense to you no offense meant but... But i'll tell you Sir Dave sent me a note ITM Adam I have long subscribed to your theory that our elites use media distraction too well distract the public Have you ever given thought to the notion that when you go back to Netherlands You are the distraction

01:48 If King Alex gets overthrown while you're there, my theory will be proven. Hope you are well paid for your services." That's the joke of it isn't it? I wish! It's nuts... But anyway, so it's all fine The whole point of the story now is Adam has no money and therefore Patricia gets no money Oh well And Patricia says oh poor guy oh well and there's no room in my life for him now Not with all those, yeah. Yeah not without the cash apparently! Well you know that's the way it goes what no money? Get lost chump Oh man So Europe is always... It was always about the money Of course of course It doesn't make any sense because when you two got together You were just some like character Raggedy Ann and raggedy Andy

02:49 Okay, fine. Get ready to get out of Gitmo Nation lowlands I'll tell you. I'm sorry you didn't get to go to England Yeah i really wanted too but just there's just so much to do my sister is here and from Italy and we had all the siblings and all this stuff But yeah I learned a lot of things What's the latest that you've learned from the Netherlands? Well, I learned from the Netherlands that everybody here is using and I believe this is also happening worldwide now that I'm paying attention to it. Is using this new app called Perfect 365 Have you heard of this? I have not! Perfect 365 and its not a cheap app as I think it's three bucks whoo in App World That's just astounding

03:36 But with it. It's kind of it's like an insta photoshop for selfies. So you can literally touch on it, and you have buttons control buttons like lips eyes You know cheekbones and this app identifies these different features in the face And then it...you can make yourself beautiful It's really quite astounding! Once you have seen what this looks like once you've played with it And once you've seen your own face how beautiful you can make a look you see this thing is being used everywhere Everyone is using this. I'm going to the website of ArcSoft, which makes this product. It's a product indeed and of course this is very bad because no one... It's only on Apple? No it isn't! No it's available on Google. Yeah I think its Android too yeah. On the Google. The Google there you go your tech reporter John C. Dvorak. Its available on the Google thing

04:39 It is, it really is an astounding app. And and I believe the use of this actually is facilitating the demise of our society at large. Everybody's going to think they're ugly when they see all these other photos! Well, no. They used the app! Yeah then we're lost in this... People will go out and be like, eww. Wow they took a picture of some woman who was kind of a plain Jane and they not only made her face prettier but they put lipstick and makeup on her Oh yeah you can change colors, you can put eyeliner all kinds of crazy things I know it's great

05:16 Makes sense if you think about it come up something like but when everyone is using this app You might as well just stay home because you know, you when you go out people will see you know the far yeah. Yeah Big one you yes No But you don't look anything like that pick that woman that you sent me the picture of who is this? I want to go out with her exactly Exactly. So then everyone will be inside and that'll be it, end of civilization done? Well I stay inside now anyway so what difference does it make to me probably take a few years off my portraits. I'm gonna start doing selfies Oh God A couple things first I want oh I wanted to mention that I'm very disappointed the president Okay In the entire administration general today is internationally recognized as registered nurse day

06:16 RN day. RN day, yet the president has not deemed it necessary to make an official proclamation. He hates women! It must be... I mean that's lame. No, I think so. Annual worldwide event held on March 19th honoring specialty nursing certification by memorializing the birthday of the late Margretta Greta Madden-Styles, an international pioneer of nursing certification I'm doing this for my nurse friends, you understand. And i think you should! Yeah, hello? Hello? Yeah... Hello Nurse! Who takes care of me when I'm sick?! Uh and then the uh what I want- oh here's something although it really belongs in tech news but this is just stuff that I'm learning over here we're an international environment here speak English speak Dutch you know some people German but I of course am here there's a lot more activity on my smartphone which I'm now kind of regretting

07:15 Because exactly what I... Forget the tracking and all that stuff. It's just everyone is texting you all day, everybody my friends. How do they have your number? Well, they're my friends. I've had the same number for years. Well aren't they just texting when you're in Austin then? Well because I'm here and they know I'm here and it was like oh come hang out whatever. You know what it's like No not really Oh yeah sorry forgot you have no friends. I have no friends I stay at home all the time But I'm so using this iPhone 6 stay at home working on the show here Yeah, I'm out there getting I'm groveling in the dishes for stories. Okay? When you use the iOS thing that's the Apple of the iPhone If you want to switch to a different language or if you God forbid would want to you know type some Dutch and then some English

08:07 the predictive text and the spelling, you have to switch keyboards. And the Dutch and American English keyboard are exactly the same. We have to tap on a thing, switch through different keyboard otherwise it starts predicting stupid words. You cannot just like if you use OS X then you don't have any predictive text or spelling. So your complaining about what you like? Well, no I'm complaining that on OS X you can easily just start typing any language you want and the OS recognizes it and spellchecks appropriately even if you're doing mixed languages. Just pointing out a huge flaw! There's only so many lines of code they can shove in those phones... How hard could it be? Please please. And then the only other thing I have

09:00 is from my sister. Just some useful information, just some cultural things from the EU that you would not hear on any other show in Italy most women do not use tampons Okay, they use a different brand? No. Something else? No that would be Tampax no tampons. Do they use... They use sanitary napkins Pads. Pads yeah Yeah I find this distressing Why? Well why exactly why No, why do you give a crap? Well this is horrible. Why do I give a crap? Why is it horrible because I think these women are women used for eons there Yeah But if they were educated about what what products there are I just find that find that very strange

09:52 And he gets stuck in your ways. I'm sorry, I get stuck in my... All right. Amen. Fist bump! Yeah, I really cannot get worked up about this story. I know you can't get worked up about it but it's just something you won't hear anywhere else This is true but no one's gonna hear anywhere else either Take us out of here JC Okay here is the story of the day We have a cliff and this is the back rounder and It is the human trafficking bill they've been trying to push through the Senate that was there was an agreement on and then they all of a sudden began to disagree on it. And I'll explain what happened

10:31 Now to a large but often hidden issue in America and why solving it is getting caught up in congressional gridlock. More than 100,000 American children and teens are currently estimated to be victims of sex trafficking In the past month senators from both parties had come together on a bill to combat the problem and help victims It was to be a shining example of bipartisanship but has now hit a major political wall Democrats owe these victims, not lobbyists help. Help the Senate is now so close to passing It's insane to keep going forward on these votes that everyone knows are gonna turn out the same way Party leaders dug in this morning as the Senate standoff over the human trafficking bill entered its second week The measure initially had wide bipartisan backing

11:25 It creates a fund for US victims of trafficking who are often forced into prostitution. And it toughens fines and penalties for so-called johns who buy services, but the dispute is centered on a provision banning any funds from paying for a victim's abortion Democrats acknowledged today they originally missed that provision, that an aide did not flag it. But minority whip Dick Durbin and others charge Republicans deliberately made the wording obscure. There was a representation made to several senators There was nothing else in the bill to be concerned about other than a few listed issues and this was not included. In turn, Republicans like Deb Fischer of Nebraska deny ill intent To have the other side come out and say they didn't read the bill they were caught off guard you know come on

12:21 Okay. All right, so we have this sex trafficking bill if you start to look into it You'll find that there's been one of these almost every year and there's been a million variations of these sex trafficking bills And they never get passed and they always have I would ruin their business there in Congress This is exactly what no one wants to talk about. This is what's going on, they've increased the penalties for Johns which is a problem I couldn't...I can't find the exact what they're gonna do but I know this the one aspect of the bill if you're a pimp life in prison What? Life in prison. Okay, regardless of the severity of your traffic... I mean no trafficking is good of course but just so you're a pimp- Is a pimp a trafficker or an exploiter? He's well- Or is he just the businessman

13:08 He's a trafficker. That's trafficking, okay? Alright that's not selling bill he's renting he's not renting them they bring this bill out and they have a overall goal for this and if you buy again any I would Ask anyone just to look up sex trafficking bill in Congress and you'll find there was one in 2000, there's one in the 90s... a bunch of them in the 90s. 2003, the 2013 bill which was thrown out and they have this never-ending and eat one side or the other takes the hit for not letting it get passed

13:43 In this case, it's the Democrats because they're the minority. And if you're... They've got more pimps apparently? Well, this time. But the whole thing is that these guys, these senators and the Congress in general use hookers. Yes! It just a known fact. They were always getting busted for not gay and using gay hookers. They are using these girls. And they aren't going to pass this bill. It's a well-known fact. They're not going to pass any of these bills ever and then it turns out... Can't they just take the John part out? No, they don't want this to be John or no John I don't even think that's the issue they just don't want to stop these young girls from becoming hookers because they get to use their services That's benefit number one being in government

14:40 Now, the thing was about oh we didn't see this thing about abortion in here. This is a great little gimmick they threw into this. The idea is that well... We can't pass it because there's some abortion shit in there. It's an abortion issue and that means the Republicans won't change because they have to stay with the course of what difference does it make? And so they're gonna create a filibuster. These laws never...if you have a filibuster-proof Congress, these laws never show up by the way." And now, and so while we didn't read the bill which is another thing. My favorite! We weren't told by a staffer that guys are supposed to look this over. Turns out this morning the staffer who was supposed to look this over looked it over, his AMI-Klobuchar's assistant, looked it over found the abortion thing right off the bat and everybody knew about

15:34 And he made a mistake, I guess and blabbed. And so today's all the news stories that is old Klobuchar as assistant... Oh yeah we knew about this! So their whole excuse is bull crap and the whole thing which makes it even more obvious that they talk a big game in Congress they do not want to pass this bill. Prostitution is prostitution and they're not going to deal with it because I think there's just a bunch of douchebags. That's my analysis! Thank you Nobody, by the way on any other show will ever discuss this. A bunch of warmongering douchebags in Washington DC? Yeah They won't be discussed No There is not much more to say about it unfortunately than that but yeah

16:19 And I think you should separate prostitution from trafficking. I just think there's two different things. No, they are but the way this is usually written it says royally out to get them...I mean if you don't have the John provision in their wall, the Johns aren't trafficking and got nothing do with traffic. Exactly! But they're gonna get big fines or thrown in the slammer. Named and shamed named and shamed. In San Rafael back in the 70s when there was a prostitution problem in the Bay Area, and... How can it be a problem? There were not enough? No, is just the opposite what happened some Berkeley judge made some stay I remember this. There's some Berkeley judge made some sort of a stay about some

17:06 small aspect of the law, and for all practical purposes legalized prostitution in Berkeley and Oakland and most of the East Bay for about three years. And it became very humorous to drive down University Avenue when you would see a hundred girls. Meanwhile, in San Rafael where there were women working... this is during the depression of the 70s There are a lot of women there but they newspaper I worked with the guy who was the editor that paper at the time They would name and shame Wow And it did You know what? It's so strange because growing up in The Netherlands now this is changing because of course they have to harmonize with the rest of EU all the member states

17:55 But prostitution has always been legal, tax paying medical benefits etc. And it was actually culturally always seen as well you know if men who are the... we want to keep the family together and have the pillars of society in place and if men need to go bang a hooker then that's okay so we're not going make a big deal out of it and just let it be for what is That was really the culture Think to some degree it may still be that as normal is going to the doctor. You know, it's a reasonable I never found it to be unreasonable their approach There's the trafficking angle and you and I aren't women so we can't different We can't really say then you know that every woman who who says she likes it likes him. That's how they were qualified Yeah, no, yeah I'm sorry come on. You can't play it after I said it. I'm sorry my finger slipped

18:55 Yeah. All right, anyway so that's your story this is what's going on and we just won't come to grips with any of these realities trafficking is bad especially when you know white slavery and all the rest of it which is really horrible and seems more problematic in the Middle East than any place else other than Russia Russia bring the girls in from there. There's a lot of, uh, yeah, the Baltic States and all traffic here. Yeah. I've been keeping a close eye on the Iranian situation that the negotiations now that we have at least some view of what we believe is going on and the intent is perhaps to actually make sure Iran gets a nuclear bomb

19:35 And then there's this Cotton letter and Cotton, I mean he's really being pumped up. He is...he is being... Supposedly he's going to be the vice presidential nominee. Yeah sure. Well yeah that's what... If the Democrats have their way he will be right But it seems that we're now on to a certain strategy with Iran regarding Syria and One of the bennies I guess we've given Iran is we have taken them off our list of states that sponsor terror. And also not on the list is Hezbollah, which would make sense because that's apparently... That's them! Yeah it's them same guys different location

20:20 And I caught a couple clips. First here's John Bolton, former... was he ambassador to the United Nations? Yes! Another guy who would love to be president but that's not gonna happen. But yeah, but he likes uh.. He's not always on some corporate or governmental message which makes him dangerous. Don't believe this formatting excuse do you is why Iran and Hizballah is out of this list of terrorists It's a flat lie The format of this year's report is exactly the same as last year's report. The people who would say this is a format change are weasels and so you ask yourself... Liars, lying weasels! Lying weasels I tell you You asked yourself how- That's some strong words from Mr Bolton isn't it? Lying weasels, lying weasels! Nothing but lying weasels people, I hate you

21:09 of this year's report is exactly the same as last year's report. The people who would say this is a format change are weasels and so you ask yourself... Liars, lying weasels! Lying weasels You ask yourself how could this happen? And I think there's a pretty clear explanation the American negotiators, you got to start going easy on us on this terrorism stuff. Because what they want is not simply to be freed from the sanctions that were imposed because of the nuclear program, they want to be freed from the sanctions that have been imposed 30 plus years because of their state sponsorship of terrorism so what we're having now is an Orwellian example of disappearing references to Iran and its proxy Hezbollah

21:54 from the terrorism. This was a concession, I think by the administration relating to the nuclear negotiations you will not find in the signed deal." All right so we'll keep our eye on that and then we have Mr Cotton Tom Cotton and he was on one of the news shows maybe CBS or Fox i don't remember He is the head signatory of the letter from Congress has to approve them for them to be lasting and binding. I have to say, I'm surprised by Secretary's comments this morning because just a few days ago he testified before the Senate to say that any deal would not be legally binding and now he says that future congresses can't change a mere executive agreement if we disagree with them or if a future president disagrees with them? That's not the way our constitutional system works and it certainly is not the way we should be negotiating with Iran

22:57 How does it make America stronger to tell them that any agreement they make with this administration may not be worth the paper it's written on and may not last beyond this presidency? How does that make things better? Well, there is a simple fact of our Constitution that if Congress doesn't approve that deal then it may not last. And the deal that is on the table right now is a very bad deal. It would allow Iran to have thousands and thousands of centrifuges, to continue enriching uranium. It would do nothing to the military dimensions of Irans nuclear program. Its excluded entirely the ballistic missile program that Iran has which is designed solely to strike the United States right here at home and it could have a 10 year sunset." So he's...a ten-year sunset is interesting

23:41 He clearly is ringing a bell. If I listen to him with the no agenda ears, I hear him saying hey these guys want to give them a nuke this is probably not a good idea but the kicker is how this has spread out now we have Admiral Mike Mullen and he gets an interesting question Is he more afraid of ISIS? Abel Mullen do you fear Iran long term more than ISIS? I do actually I think Iranism... This is a change of heart What happened to the worst thing is ISIS, ISIL? That's I think it has been turned down weeks ago. But now well... Once they started pushing them back and we let the Iranians bring their generals in to control things over there, that messaging has changed. Yeah, I think that's what Mike Mullen actually says here.

24:39 more difficult challenge, an incredibly complex country that we don't understand very well. We've had no relations with them for... Where's our intelligence agencies? Yeah we don't understand it very well How can we not understand them?! Didn't we put the guy in there? Wait hold on a second! What he said is an indictment of the intelligence community Yes He's not fit to wear uniform Which he doesn't anymore, he's retired isn't he Yes, I think so. Challenge an incredibly complex country that we don't understand very well. You're right it's quite an indictment. Relations with them for 35 years and the complexity inside that country that is represented by enormous tension on the part of President Rouhani who was considered to be a reformer was somewhat of a surprise selectee as president

25:28 and the ideological faction led by the Supreme Leader. And it is the Supreme Leader and his ideological group, if you will that lead in the judiciary and lead with respect to the military. This whole focus on the nuclear deal is part of where I think President Rouhani wants to get So, that possibly he's got a chance with elections next year in...with respect to those who will select the next Supreme Leader. With parliamentary elections in the spring to possibly turn it into more constructive reform direction for the country of Iran." I love the use of the word turn-it. You know, possibly turn-it sounds like we're eyeing for some regime change there?

26:22 with this election and, you know, coming up in the spring. Spring is always fun to do things a little bit warmer we can more demonstrations places were supposed to take over and rebelize. And then of course we have so we have Iran, we have Russia, We have Syria, Syria with the Russian port. Now it seems like we're back too...we have two Negotiate with Assad instead of kill him. We are working very hard with other interested parties to see if we can reignite a diplomatic outcome Why? Because everybody agrees there is no military solution. There's only a political solution Hold on a second, now there is no military solution Only a political solution

27:06 Well, I have that same clip incorporated in something. I think it's a very good little performance by the NewsHour Let's play it What is it and I would just play Assad part one we have that clip and then there's a little more explanation And then we're trying to get to them to uh... then they go to a backstory is very interesting report anything that came from outside the borders was only words and interference with it disappears after awhile since it is that last was aimed at secretary of state john kerry sunday on cbs he suggested any effort toward a transition in syria that's what would include also had after all and i am convinced that with the efforts of our allies and others There will be increased pressure on Assad. And you'd be willing to negotiate with him?

27:51 Well, we have to negotiate in the end. Kerry's words raised eyebrows but U.S officials quickly insisted President Obama's policy has not changed from this in 2012. President Al-Assad has lost legitimacy he needs to step down So I think somewhere some kind of deal was done something happened that we missed or maybe during these negotiations with Iran something came up but there is a reason for this Yeah, I agree with you. There's something is up we don't know what it is they they're scrambling like crazy because apparently we get I'm guessing that Kerry Is presenting it improperly? Because he runs the place that's an educated guess He thinks he runs to play says whatever he wants and they showed They should you didn't get to see what the visuals were on this particular package but they had

28:41 After Kerry said this, and he said it twice now that I got... He said the one your clip was a little different. setting than mine. And so he said this couple of times, and then you see the panic room with Jen Psaki running to the podium and she's trying to make... Oh really? Yeah she said something like oh well you didn't mean it sort of thing. The joke is that she should be, or she supposed to be I thought working for Kerry that's her job but she appears to me to be a stooge for the White House. Well, she's...didn't she get the White House job? Yeah. She got the White House job. She just hasn't started there yet. Well, yes, Saki, Jen Saki is a redhead yeah. I thought she got...yeah, the pregnant one. Right. Yeah, think she got the White House gig. And Marie Harf is gonna take over her job. No no no it's some other puppet. Oh okay well I'm not keeping up with this soap opera then. But she still supposed to be working for Carrie. Yeah well she's not doing a good job

29:47 So she doesn't back carry up at all. Before we move on, let me just go back because I have a second clip and then this will fit perfectly, I think you're hearing Two journalists jamming, ladies and gentlemen. We're jamming our clips. Hey John, so we've jammed some clips man. Jammin' baby. Here is Charlie Rose with Brennan the drone meister himself, director of CIA at the CFR, the Council on Foreign Relations doing one those little chit chats where they are all drinking and ha-ha-ha yes, we rule the world...and journalist there too Wolf Blitzer. John Ligato Swapping around their portfolios. Exactly

30:26 Then he's also talking about how to get Assad out and maybe we can get our Iranian brethren to help us. And it is the policy of this administration that Assad is really not part of Syria's future as we see it I love how we do that by the way It is the policy of this administration, Assad you really can't be a part of that country You cannot be apart of your country even if you've been democratically elected That are policies That's because it is the way we see it. We see it, that is our policy that you can't be part of the future so when we look over your way you better be gone son and so what do we need now for Assad to be in power temporarily unless there's a negotiated settlement? Because we need them as an opposition to ISIL as well yes this crisis in Syria which it is both from humanitarian standpoint just from a country-wide standpoint

31:18 is not going to be resolved in the battlefield, in my mind. We need to continue to support those elements within Syria that are dedicated to moving Assad and his ilk out. But there has to be some type of political pathway into the future. None of us, Russia, United States coalition and regional states wants a collapse of government and political institutions in Damascus What we do want is for there to be a future of Damascus that is going to bring into power, uh, representative government that's going to try and address the grievances that exist throughout the country. So now all of sudden there's a coalition Iran Russia us

32:00 if I heard him correctly. Well, that's what he said. I'm not completely buying it well unless something is being divvied up and maybe Iran is going to say listen we'll take over this business over here we'll bring Hezbollah back in here. I don't know just making up shit something happened I have no idea Well, I don't either. We're not getting enough information. Well let's listen to this what is the second clip from Democracy Now? This is the this is a PBS NewsHour. Oh okay we'll jam on the PBS clip now The push to oust Assad began as peaceful protests in March 2011 amid the Arab Spring but the regime launched a brutal crackdown against demonstrators that in turn triggered of violent uprising across the country

32:51 Moderate rebels initially made some headway, but were hurt by internal divisions and a lack of Western support. And the intrusion of extremist groups like the Al-Nusra Front at the same time Iran and Russia bolstered Damascus with weapons money and expertise and Iran's Lebanese ally Hezbollah sent thousands of fighters into Syria Then adding to the chaos, the Islamic State group seized large sections of northern Syria last summer. There's a little interesting background that brings us up to speed they only do these because this is not a new story No this is just reminding you of the so-called truth

33:38 Exactly. Now, remember kids here's what happened first there was peaceful demonstrations no NGOs or anything nothing when this is like they have at the beginning of the dramas that previously on this bull crap so this is the previously on and then we can catch up and then of course they had their last clip Has the theme again which you have to see that this one's visually they show Buildings falling over it is the most outrageous. They're complete they complete on all of the mind tricks Yeah, there just is a mess. They're showing a little bonanza

34:17 They got to play this part. But two rounds of peace talks have already failed, and many of the protesters say it's crushing to watch helplessly. I always feel like...I hope it is a dream but And I'm afraid even to come and connect with the people because I don't want to see it. I don't want to think about its reality But unfortunately, it's a reality And for now the reality is that much of Syria has been blasted to ruins The war enters its fifth year Yeah, I got an email from sub 7-0 Rubble yeah rubble eyes Oh, yeah Of course no rubble eyes in the whole place

35:01 Why do we have to do this? We're in the mood. I could not have said it better. We're in the mood, I'm in the mood for rubble! Hey John you know what I want to do after dinner? Let's go make some rubble man. Let's go rubble-ize something. Let's go rubble-ize that country. I was thinking about why do we have to do this and then I think about Wesley Clark 7 and then he keeps showing Should we play the West Clark 7 real quick? Yeah, you might as well. So I came back to see him a few weeks later and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan and I said are we still going to war with Iraq? And he said oh it's worse than that! He reached over on his desk picked up a piece of paper and he said I just got this down from upstairs meeting the Secretary of Defense office today and he said this is a memo that describes how we're gonna take out seven countries

35:59 in five years starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon Libya Somalia Sudan and finishing off Iran. Here's what Fletcher needs to do Yeah no you don't need to do that you get sued That character who does that, the reason you never hear anyone else do it is like lawsuit crazy. Really? Because the guy who hosts The Voice here in Holland... Yeah. That's how he starts with Let's Get Ready to Rumble He starts the show that way! Once I can't remember for some reason Oh I'm sure somehow is a trademark copyright or something If he found out about it he'd find himself with a big export Excellent

36:45 Yeah, I found out about that when i was working in radio years ago. Because I said it! Back when you were... Don't say that ever! Back when you were an AM jock? No, I said W-O-L-D Public Radio. Well we're on this subject but might as well play this uh.. This is kind of a Still on track because the Tikrit clip that I have you know which is about taking Taking back to Crete yes play it and with it and with it in mind that the punchline Is the very last word make sure not to step on okay, okay? And this to me was just like wow they're finally coming around no agenda In Iraq a government defensive against Islamic State fighters into crete was put on hold

37:30 today, the Iraqi military and Shiite militias have already made big gains. But the interior minister said they expect bitter fighting ahead. More than 90 percent of our objectives are going according to plans and timings. What has remained is a very small part which is the center of Tikrit. The militants planted bombs in our government offices and buildings by halting military operations we also aim to give an opportunity to civilians and families to get away from the battlefield Tikrit is Saddam Hussein's hometown and his once lavish tomb has been wrecked by the fighting. What's left are mostly piles of concrete rubble

38:09 Rubble! We score again. So I just showed this picture of what appears, you could see that it was probably architected because there's things that are blown to smithereens that are just too nice looking and so they've rubblized the creek. And I was thinking about this because you brought it up a second ago and I thought about this why are we just rubblizing everything? Now remember in the early days after 9-11 There was some commentary that went on about bombing them into the Stone Age. But that's a bushism, is it not? It was...I may have been Bush, but it may have been somebody that's never really been repeated. But I think that that's what we're up to. I think that's what we're doing. I think we are... We've taken... Rubbalizing? We are rubbalizing. We're bombing them into the stone age because all they...if you look at these pictures is all you see is stones or rocks and pieces of something. And I'll say whether it's true or not having that visual will least give everybody here

39:08 the illusion that it's all been rubbilized. I don't believe... John Kasich Obviously, it has not all been rubbilized like some of the major cities are still fine and everything but there's been a lot more than a fair share of rubbilization that's taken place. Adam Bauchner Well you caught it early on, the rubbilization now they're just saying it now. They're just coming right out and saying it yeah. We got to play these more often John rubble eyes Rubble eyes. Oh, man So that's what I think is going we may be rubble eyes in Ukraine and we have a plan for it this this of course is why junker the drunkard the What does an official title? Is he president of the European Union?

40:07 The European Council? Yeah. He's the president of one of those, they have so many different operations I think he's... By the way do you have a clip which will play after your done with this where there were there's not a lot of reporting on this it was shown on PBS and i think Democracy Now but that's as far as it got worthy You know they built this billion dollar building the ECB Oh yeah people are burning cars down They're burning the place down if they could get to the building I'm sure they'd torch it Yeah, you want to play the clip? Absolutely. Hold on a second. This is Erin Aid and she has a little kicker at the end this is protests in ECB and it's new building yeah got it

40:49 And speaking of volatility, Wednesday in Frankfurt thousands of anti-capitalist protesters clashed with riot police near the ECB's new 1.4 billion dollar headquarters. Violence erupted during the ceremonial opening of the billion dollar skyscraper for the ECB that is their new home and protesters set fire to barricades and cars Some 94 police officers were injured by stones and tear gas, while rally organizers say that 100 of the 7000 protesters were injured by police. During the inaugural ceremony ECB President Mario Draghi said quote European unity is being strained and the ECB has become a focal point for those frustrated with this situation Obviously this hasn't been the case in the US at least not yet Yeah well I agree yes John very good clip

41:38 I think we are at a turning point. Mark it down, March 19th 2015. I believe we're now the turning point We have school students staging walkouts in the United States That to me was already quite an indicator But the slaves are restless Now they're tired of it Big demonstrations in Spain Bank run on another Spanish bank The slaves are sick and tired There's no work Social services are being cut everywhere across Europe. The Netherlands, people are hurting, hurting bad and they're used to this like the safety net will catch me. No! And they're overextended. This is the beginning and people are going to start taking it into streets. That is only partially the reason why the president of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker

42:40 wants an EU army for Ukraine yes, I'm sorry peacekeepers But it might be handy to have him around in case slaves get restless here back into EU. The Ukrainian parliament has passed a bill which calls for deployment of EU and UN peacekeepers to the country's war-torn eastern areas 341 members of parliament out of the 450 seat assembly supported the bill according to the parliament's press service The bill, which was submitted earlier this week by Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko anticipates peacekeeping and security missions in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions which will observe the implementation of the Minsk ceasefire agreement. The deal was reached on February 12th by the leaders of Ukraine, Germany Russia and France. Ukraine's Security and Defense Council has appealed to the UN and EU to deploy peacekeepers along the border which divides the militant-held Donetsk region and government controlled areas and along some parts of the Russia-Ukraine border. There we go! Right in accordance with Articles 27 & 28 of the Lisbon Treaty

43:40 as presented to the public and voted down twice by the Netherlands and France, and then a do-over. And Ireland had to do it over, but we got it because everyone agreed! There's your European army which... just be careful these peacekeepers sometimes are sent to keep the peace in your own country. Yeah that's bad. None of this is good. No no it really isn't. The news here is so bad man. It's just so bad I mean, they really just take the press releases. They really do... Yeah well we do the same thing. Did you see that... How's our news any better? No but in fact when we do it all there was a big story about Russia having to fire, I think Ketchum or I don't know if they had to but they fired Ketchum PR as their number one, you know, as their PR company so the question is of course... It was under impression that was Putin's PR company. I read that article too Oh then I may be wrong let me take a look You're right Is there a difference

44:44 I think there is. I think Putin would have a personal PR liaison that would be promoting him, they obviously have done a crap job now...I don't know if the Russians or Putin in particular anybody else is aware of the fact that there's really only two or three PR companies There's Omnicron. Omnicon and... Omnicon, I don't know why do I say that? You know how to say it all. Because they used to own a part of my company that's how I know the chairman. Omnicon, WPP. That's it! That's only two now. Publicist, Publicist. They were purchased by WPP Well there is third one as small third one out of France No no, we've had this whole conversation Yeah maybe well whatever the case those are just the 2 big ones And those because there still little independent guys here and there

45:29 I mean, they only start up a PR company nowadays to get bought by one of these other two guys. And you get bought up eventually. So there's two of these companies that own all the other PR companies and I don't know which one Ketchum belongs too but I believe it's WPPA but it could be the other one and this whole thing is one giant conflict of interest Because you have one... Isn't it? Yeah, of course it is. If I'm working for one of the WPP operations and you're working for the other WPP operation and I've got pro-Russian separatists and you've got anti Russian separatist as your PR clients

46:11 I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here. Yeah it's just like a conflict of interest because you're both working for WPP and the funny thing... No we have a Chinese wall John! A Chinese wall There are no Chinese any involved in this So I went to an event once and the WPP had a bunch of different companies that were work doing their whatever they do And then some guy gave me his card and the card was a WPP card So WPP also represents itself as the public relations. Well, of course! So they got them...this reminds me for a minute here this reminds me of the scam and the biggest bullcrap publisher to me has always been Pearson

46:58 And we can talk about them actually. And Pearson also is doing the Common Core stuff, but Pearson decided... because there's no antitrust action that takes place in the United States anymore and this is what's really causing a lot of this problem and performance enhancement drugs have ruined sports and this is ruining business So, Pearson decides to buy everyone. And they've got a genius... This is genius by the way the way they do this. They buy Prentice Hall, they buy Macmillan. These are all computer publishing companies. They buy Prentice Hall and they buy Macmillan and they buy every computer publishing company, Peach Pit Press. They buy everybody except O'Reilly. It's called a roll-up. They roll all of them together and they buy... The main one they buy is Q. That's I think the first one that bought it.

47:46 And the difference between all these operations... Now we've got an immediate conflict of interest because if I do a book, here's where the real scam was. If anybody does a book for one of these publishers which are all owned by Pearson and the book becomes semi-successful they immediately cloned the book and give it to Q because all the small publishers... Yeah, they're gonna get screwed. They have payouts, they have their earn outs The regular publishing companies give a royalty of 10 to 15 percent either based on wholesale or cover price, depends on the deal. And that you would...so if your book sold 100,000 copies you'd get royalties on those hundred thousand copies. Q they never did that there was always just

48:31 a book for higher writing. So they give you here, you're gonna write this book, here's 5,000 bucks or 10,000 bucks, write this book. Oh and by the way, this is the one that's the best seller we want you to write it that book And so they write the bestseller again, you know with their own words. It's not plagiarized but it's the same book and they bring that book out and then who do you think gets all the advertising? So they pull the advertising from your book which is going to be a best seller and they push the advertising over to Q and Q makes all the money and they make more profits and so they get more money into the corporate coffers of the mother

49:09 ship. It's an unbelievable scam and, oh well I don't know! Well whatever, I got my book sold!" And so all these writers are not bitching about this or refusing to do business with him at all and it's just unbelievable. This whole thing is just...and this is what happened with public relations now. It's a complete outrageous It's a fraud. Yeah, yeah. So it's the news... By the way they still charge the same old amount 30 thousand a month sometimes higher. Putin was probably paying $1 million dollars a year to get no service? Well he did get that big New York Times op-ed which they wrote two years ago and that was actually talking about Crimea back in the day. It is interesting go back and read that

49:57 Yeah, I should go back and read it. You're talking about Common Core just the two quick emails before we thank our execs and associate execs for the day in the morning sir this is from producer Chris Mader just catching up on show 703704 and want to share some information concerning the PARCC or the park tests here in New Jersey are you familiar with the partnership for assessment of readiness for college and careers testing John? Yeah, we talked about it. Yeah and it's owned by Pearson right this weekend We had a st.. Patrick's Day party my aunt and uncle were both here both our New Jersey teachers might on northern New Jersey teaches Second-grade my uncle in Central Jersey and teaches high school the topic park of course or as the teachers joke what is Park spelled backwards crap? Those teachers

50:49 They were worried because the test didn't affect her... Oh, but hold on a second. They were asking how my daughter did with her testing she's in fourth grade and was really confused I told them not to worry because the test didn't affect your grade The principal told them that it does! The vice-principal told him it didn't matter and our teacher said if kids did bad She would lose her job no pressure right? This is what the teacher said to the class My aunts class of second graders didn't officially have to take the tests But rather a practice tests She said it was played with tech glitches She was unable to start the test for two hours due to sitting on the phone with Pearson because her login didn't work. Once she was able to start the test, the kids were getting stressed out because they would answer in a question click next and the site would jump three or four questions ahead this would show that the child never answered those questions and they were unable to go back worse the school doesn't have enough computers and there are talks about raiding the teacher's retirement fund to set off the expense.

51:44 This is crazy, right? I don't know how great it is. How did they pull this off?! Thank you Bill and Melinda Gates! This was very helpful. Good work Belinda...Melinda. And then another quick note here hello Adam want to thank both you and John for the recent shows this is from Annie send pictures, Annie. Which have been top-notch I sent in a donation of $40 via PayPal but it didn't allow me to send any message just want to thank you both for your courage as a soon-to-be teacher i am being forced to prepare students for the park. I'm surprisingly the only person in my graduate program that sees any problem with it or voices my concern although I would share some deaf culture news apparently ISIS is now using sign language to recruit

52:36 It's true by the way. That's the new one, that guy... ISIS guys in a desert signing on camera. It was probably a suggestion given to him by WPP Damn those guys they never do it right what are we paying for this? What 500 thousand a month for this shit?! And with that, I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. With a c stands for copyright Dvorak! And good morning to you uh in the morning do you that is uh yeah and it geez what was this? What happened?! I was too busy grabbing stuff... In the morning to you Adam, in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air

53:18 Subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to everyone in the chat room, noagendastream.com being very helpful today nice to see you all there depleting your 9.2 million dollars worth of value And in the morning to our artists we want to thank Joshua Joshua Joshua Who helped us with art for was this evergreen? We used John I think it was wasn't it No, I think it was an old piece There's some a couple shows back. Okay, no agenda art generator calm is where you can

53:56 I always find the latest submissions. And we should mention, we forgot to mention but somebody came up with some really good pieces and then it was just one check online you see this was these were just... Yeah they're stolen exactly! We can't use just somebody.. You can't just take a stolen piece of art and then drop the generator on it throw our logo on top of it that there's you got to change it or you gotta make it funnier you gotta do something with it you can't just use it you know, unless you know it to be public domain and that's stuff before 1920 more or less. And so no we can't use these pieces this guy did about six of them a couple of them are hilarious very funny but when we looked at there was somebody else is funny and we checked that we checked that but yeah it's very easy to do by the way you can check it yourself Joshua did the Yeah No Agenda train tanker

1:00:20 An interlude, here we go. Global warming report from Boston. I was in donation mode. Boston has finally set a dubious new record most snow in a single winter the city got nearly three more inches on Sunday pushing the seasonal total to 108 point six inches that's more than nine feet of snow and the most since Boston and began keeping records in 1872. Oh no! Oh, no! Say it's not you know... All right if you're gonna do that then I have to play my climate gay clip. Demolished houses uprooted trees crushed cars all the work of what's being called a monster cyclone that hit the island nation of Vanuatu in the South Pacific Ocean

1:01:03 The country's president says more than 90% of homes and buildings in the capital city have been destroyed. Very emotional, very emotional. Now Vanuatu do you recall us discussing this name? In past programs? Never recalled it I saw stories that was... That's an interesting one. I looked it up where it is outside of New Zealand Well we have discussed Vanuatu It is the island where the climate conference was being held in the fictional account State of Fear written by Michael Crichton. And and the president of Vanuatu says climate change is to blame for this devastation on his Island it's just one of those things we go I think

1:01:52 That's a good one. All right, onward we have two left Sir Richard Gardner in Chicago Illinois 23456 one of my favorite donations is a comment from Andrew Sawyer on episode 703 about being utterly exasperated with the news media and our family and friends 100% buy-in to all of it really struck a chord I too am yet to turn 30 and find it extremely hard to discuss any current events with anyone i know because im not all in with whats being spouted from the talking heads on CNN 24 hours a day. The hardest part is seeing family members get sucked into the same black hole and seemingly having no way of dragging them back out!

1:02:34 I shared JCD's PCMag article on net neutrality on Facebook and received nothing but comments about me promoting domineering ISPs and preventing the next Facebook. Anyway, still adoring the show after all these years. Apologies again for the gap between donations take this donation as a signal of me beginning a monthly $50 donation to keep me on my toes Sir Richard Gardner PS I'm yet to order my ring since I've achieved knighthood October 2013 I'm still okay too yeah you can always put in the request and just mention that you were remiss You know i really love this type of note when someone says hey

1:03:13 I'm really, I'm living more health and a more healthy life. I'm happier because of the show." Yeah. And actually I saw that take place in front of my eyes the other day, a friend who I've known for a long time and she was like what is this IS stuff? And I start smiling and say well bullcrap is what it is! And you know just went into my little mini spiel because there was...I saw the opening was there and as you could see her physically go...her whole face relaxed like oh I'm so happy to hear you say this. That was seriously the...I'm so happy to hear you say this, it was really beautiful! Yeah it was beautiful!

1:04:06 And finally, we have as our last Associate Executive Producer for Show 705 is Hendrik Schmid in Utrecht. $200 I will mail as this should yield my knighthood let me be known as Sir Hendrick Knight of the Blank Sabre. Nice! Excellent Well, I look forward to that. We want to remind people do a show on Sunday was this short week for Sunday's show and hopefully you do A little better and that will be show 706 go to Dvorak org slash na And think about the PI donation at 31415 and get yourself a shout out by the great John Fletcher hashtag Fletcher fest two quick PR mentions one is

1:05:01 So Ramsey Kane in the morning, I've printed up 1000 No Agenda CDs and packing them up in lots of 33 sets of two CDs. More details can be found on the website noagendacd.com. I will happily supply long haul truckers with as many CD's as they can eat if any are interested in handling them out and hitting truck stop denizens in the mouth this is of course refers to our conversation about the automization...no Is that the word? Driverless trucks And by the way, we got a note from a guy in Australia. Yeah. Who says that they have these driverless trucks already and he sees very grim future for the trucking industry at least... Was this the guy who told us about The Corridor? This is The Corridor that goes from south, you know, from Mexico all the way up to Canada and that's where they're already experimenting with some autonomous driving trucks?

1:05:56 No, I don't think he mentioned that corridor. But that corridor has been in the works forever and people don't like it. And... No, no. That's all the eminent donations though. But now you mention it since this is only supposed to be for trucks, it's probably…that would be where you experiment with driving. Here it is. The Autonomous Friendly Corridor Central North American Trade Corridor Association It's an interesting website to check in you know check out But we did already see a baby die and when truck hit a wall news report So, you know they're starting to demonize the truckers already just need a couple dead hooker stories And we're good to go. Also there's a special Trucker page which is a link in the show notes at 705 no agenda notes calm and then secondarily If you've not tried out Noah gender player comm it's definitely something it's so good that

1:06:47 If you want to send someone a clip or tweet, there's links right there and it goes straight into the player. It plays exactly from that spot even...it works on the iPhone so I think it works on everything And if you find a segment that might be good for us to replay like John, you and I talked about this Just something like a refresher of a certain topic or how something came to be Maybe we should see if that is worth trying For newer listeners. Yeah, yeah, yeah I think it's too hard to do your enthusiasm is just killing me That's fantastic sure org whatever slash and just trying to do my best Whatever you do make sure you're out there propagating the formula our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Shut up

1:07:52 Yowza yowza yowza. We see we had a little report here about MH370 and they're still looking for that, what was that? 777 right that went down All the crazy conspiracy theories that Putin did it. Putin did that, he does everything man. The guy's just amazing. Hold on a second why is my... here is this. Well they found some disturbing evidence. A small towelette washed up on a beach in Western Australia is being examined to determine whether it could be linked to missing flight MH370 The package was found by a couple at Cervantes last July, hundreds of kilometres away from the current search zone. It was unopened and which was very unusual if it had been open and just lying there probably completely different Experts say it is possible for a package like this to drift long distances This little foil packet toilet Yes! It may be nearby Low news day

1:08:56 I love when they do stuff like that. I love that Ashton, I'm just catching up on some stuff i gotta get out of my bin here Ashton B Carter our brand new Secretary of Defense secretary of the war department is that what they used to call it? The second...the war department? Secretary War! Yeah oh was a war? I thought it was war Department well I think it was the word apartment he used to be called Secretary of War Give you an idea how these elitist bull crappers are listen to this They had the color guard walking in and then they have a red carpet ladies and gentlemen associate justice Elena Kagan I love this guy's voice. He's like yeah, I can do this I can do the low voice like they do announcements You know like him the Grammys and stuff I can do that

1:09:37 Ladies and gentlemen the Honorable Ash Carter his wife Stephanie former Secretary of Defense dr. William Perry and General Martin Dempsey I know I can get a gig now This guy sounds like he has to take the testosterone to get his voice even that deep. Sounds like he's trying to make it very... I'm really, really trying man. As deep as I can. Secretary of State. So bad! Ladies and gentlemen... Yeah you could get that gig. Do I always watch the um? I think it was a page Probably is

1:10:17 I can do that. Give me the mic, ladies and gentlemen." But while I was watching the C-SPAN dial in shows hoping that someone will finally dial in and say something about no agenda we've had one or two which have been okay... At this point the listeners and producers are thinking why don't you just call in Adam? Well, I'm preparing a show! I'm propagating the formula That's not the deal that we make with our producers where the producer is going to sit around and do nothing they're gonna do some stuff There is a new meme though that I really like, for bogus...you know for a long time the Howard Stern show there'd be Baba Booey would be the thing you say if you called any kind of...if you got through on the air somewhere at least in America obviously. Yeah yeah so and then for awhile there's the kids running up in front of cameras and saying eff her right in the pussy which was another meme which was really strange but funny particularly in a compilation but now there's a new one

1:11:18 which you'll hear in this dial-in to my favorite C-SPAN morning show. California Republican line, here is Jack. Go ahead! Hi good morning I'm Jack Strickland. I just want to make it clear first of all I'm calling from Bel Air California but i am originally from Philadelphia specifically West Philadelphia But anyway, I was actually discussing this issue with a friend of mine recently while I was in Philly It occurred on the basketball court at some point during the conversation A couple of guys who are up to no good Essentially started causing trouble in my neighborhood. I got one little fight and my mom got scared and said you're moving with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air Again for the first 45 minutes It's the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air theme song Oh

1:12:09 Okay, I like it. Well it was hard to follow okay? I mean I get it you know that's funny ho-ho-ho It gets also a dated reference. I don't like that well there wolf Rick Ashley isn't by a Promote Rick Astley. Oh, I know you don't doesn't matter doesn't matter Alright. Yeah, we gotta do something better than that yeah in the morning is good enough at least for starters and start getting everyone to start saying in the morning or a Memphis bump

1:12:47 Amen fist bump is good. Hey man, I want you to be saying it all the time People are coming up to me on the street now and saying it so at the end of the like You go on C-SPAN you say something or they said thanks for being with us Or you go on anything and they say thanks for being with this instead of saying you're welcome glad to be here a minute Same in fist bump. Amen fist bump. That's it exactly that'll work. That's if that's a good meme we were talking about Let's see, we were talking about the state of fear and the climate change stuff. You remember we had that... We talked about this organization that their numbers are used for things like This Many Scientists Agree at the AAAS? And I think it was Brian The Gay Crusader who said he was going to sign up. Well, actually, we got another email from one of our producers from Greg and he did it as well. He said, I decided a couple weeks ago to sign up to the AAAS

1:13:46 And I was never asked to present my credentials with signing up, just 50 bucks. I do get discounts on car insurance and rental cars totally worth it." And they sent him a survey and it's really from Associated Press you know that they're running these surveys and now they're sending it to our producer as if he's a qualified researcher or scientist And here it is, we request your help. Fifteen minutes to take our survey and rate general and specific aspects of the Gulf of Mexico health by the end of the day March 27th 2015. We ask you to rate it numerically with a zero-to-100 scale as zero being dead and 100 being pristine. We asked you do it both before and after the spill for each category." So this is the quality of AP's research. This is pathetic! It's extremely pathetic.

1:14:36 So do you have any of the questions? I was hoping you're gonna read a couple. No, unfortunately don't have that but send us to scan it Yeah, there's a link to it not to the test itself. I don't have that maybe Greg will send it You know right all right well That's ridiculous That's the way it works. There is something we made, or at least I know that I've been hounding on this but let's play this clip just to prove the no agenda point after you play the clip and then we'll talk about it. This is Netanyahu wins which of course was a huge... nobody expected this but Netanyahu win somehow

1:15:15 And Martin joins me now from Tel Aviv. Martin, when we spoke about this time yesterday there were early exit polls which suggested that Netanyahu might pull this out but not by this much of a margin so what is the mood today among his supporters and the people who wanted to defeat him? Well a very mixed mood, a real reflection of the division in this country. On the one hand you have the Likud supporters euphoric A great deal of relief because you have to remember that going into the election the days before all All the polls were saying that Likud was not going to do that well. It was going to pull at least two or three seats behind Isaac Herzog's center-left coalition, and as a result there is a great deal of fear among a lot of Likud supporters that they actually weren't gonna make it.

1:16:05 When that final result came out this morning, they were stunned. They were extremely euphoric that this had happened. On the other hand you have the Zionist coalition, the center left people who were to use the words we heard on the street today Before you give me your analysis,

1:16:40 Is it also possible that the same process is in place in Israel as we have in the United States where the media continues to call it close, they might be behind, he might lose and its all just for advertising revenue? That's my analysis. I'm sorry! I thought you were going to have something different Alright, it's official. We think too much alike! Someone has to be fired I'll fire myself...I'm gone. I'm gonna get out of here. So sorry Somebody figured out this was a great way to make money for the media companies. That means they would put a lot of ads out there, and Israel's a smaller market but it's like a state about the size of a rich state that would have to throw a lot of money at the media... Right. ...to go, oh God we're gonna lose! You better bring in some more advertising!" And after Shelly Adelson lost millions of dollars on this scam

1:17:44 But this is, they've figured it out that this is the way to go. These and you said yourself the reason I brought this clip in is because you had this phony baloney survey that was being done by just a bunch of doofuses that just joined his organization not that our people are doofuses But they joined the organization, now they're experts. This whole...this entire polling situation as it now exists is one- It's a sales job for the media companies! Just useless Now if you notice most of these polls If you know there's never just one old pollster or another There's not Gallup much more It's usually Gallup NBC Gallup ABC Yeah Pew CNN

1:18:32 It'll be some poll linked to a media company. Right? Wow! If that doesn't tell you all you don't need to know, I got the media company right there doing the poll. CBS has determined that the election is too close to call. Yeah, I know it's great And it's like being a bookie in Vegas, these guys. Because the bookies they have the odds for the game. The odds are like... They make the middle, they make their little money in the middle so all of a sudden they give one team five points that win and now everybody starts betting on that team and so you have to like oh geez we got to balance the betting so let's drop the favorite

1:19:13 down to three points instead of five. And then, oh that's a good bet now so these other guys start betting and so they go back and forth and back and forth with it to get the number of bets on both sides to be as close to equal as possible. They win all the time. They make all this money in the middle That's what is going on with the media companies. The media companies, as being part of the polling and also controlling the coffers they say how much money has come in for Obama? Oh this much! Oh God we gotta make this easy so that they're not paying enough let's make it so rough. Bad news bad news on the horizon right yeah Yeah This is a scam

1:19:53 Yeah, it's one of the best scams I've ever seen we are the only two people that publicly discussed this scam as it exists And now which is apparently going on in Israel. How else was everybody so shocked? I bought the results. I didn't clip it because it was just too boring oh the president was mmm Cleveland maybe a camera boy he was and He said you know maybe we should make voting mandatory in No, that's my water honey. Thank you Maybe we should make voting mandatory in America I contemplated it for a moment and think no that would not be a good idea would it? Well its illegal Yeah well yeah I know its illegal No it wouldn't be a good idea nobody would vote anyway There are countries that do this I think Australia is mandatory to vote Yeah...well.. Yeah I think you get fined if you don't vote

1:20:49 Yeah, we don't need that. I'm just trying to... The voice of reason ladies and gentlemen. We don't need that. Meanwhile on Tuesday the White House published a notice in the Federal Register which as you know bad chat is the man always maintaining my federal register feed he plucks things out which deleted the regulation requiring the Office of Administration to be subject to public information requests which would have required a response under the Freedom of Information Act. And this is under-reported for obvious reasons." Now, let's go back this up again and say this from the beginning? Okay so in the Federal Register...so it be so... deleting the regulation that requires the Office of Administration to be... What's the Office of Administration? That's the office of the administration of the White House, the administration Oh But it's called Office of Administration I can look it up if you want

1:21:48 Well, that's okay. Keep going." You look it up. Office of Administration to be subject to public information requests which would have required a response under the Freedom of Information Act. In other words that there is no regulation for the office of administration to respond or provide any documentation requested under FOIA request. No bueno! Yeah, that's exactly what it is. White House office to delete his FOIA regulations and this was a story that is in USA Today. I think it holds true that they're the most transparent administration in history you know if there's nothing there yeah look nothing nothing to see!

1:22:37 People should be up in arms about this. Well, I don't understand the press seems to be very timid on it as well demure. You know what it is? That's our press. Demure. Yeah. Demure parroting press recycling press releases being told what to do by the pretty PR girl and pretty she is They always are. But they always have something wrong, like one tooth is crooked or something... Do you know what I mean? The PR girls that you get on your book tour? Am i right or am I right?! Well, I don't know about that! I've seen plenty of them that have no flaws. Zero flaws!? Oh everybody has flaws John C. Dvorak Nobody perfect

1:23:22 Yeah. So there were some questions, but you know it's just dumb the whole thing is just incredibly dumb I don't understand why people aren't up in arms but i think what it is whenever journalists sit down to write about ethics and, you know, real transparency and openness. It comes across as like it's inside baseball regular people look at that and go whatever you know it's not written in a consumer friendly way so that people can actually understand the bull... if they just said hey they're burning the record so you can't see what's going on is bullshit maybe these people will go hey what?

1:24:01 Yeah, nobody likes that kind of writing in the editorial. Here's one of the problems in newspapers and now I know there are some newspaper guys that listen to this show but they're gonna roll their eyes... You're a journalist. Yeah you know what you're talking about actually. Well here one of the problems is they really…I only have one or two honest friends at work in newspapers and one of them once said, ''I don't see what the point is we're not Hemingway.'' Oh yeah it was like, ''We're in Austin,'' eh, it's good enough We are not Hemingway, but a lot of these guys like to pretend to be highfalutin. And I mean the difference between...it's always said that the difference between the journalism in England which is more aggressive is that in England it's considered a trade and in United States it's considered a profession

1:24:51 And when you start thinking of journalists, reporters as a profession which kind of indicates maybe it should be licensed or should have some oversight like all professions. You're putting yourself on a pedestal that is bull crap to trade just like... Well, they're not doing a good job. Their tradecraft sucks. No! That's true and then they consider themselves professional So you're telling me that there are some real journalists like New York Times guys who listen to the show? No I thought that was what you said... I know some newspaper guys... No, no, I didn't say New York Times. I'm sorry, that's a newspaper guy to me. Some reporter- I mean, I'm sure there is a reporter in the Dakotas that listens to this show. I'm sure there is a reporter on... Yeah Story ideas Let those guys do the footwork

1:25:43 I think there's some guys, you know like you go to Arkansas. There'll be somebody listens in the show New York Times There's I would say that and I know a lot of New York Times guys not one of them will listen to this show They don't like the idea of the show they don't like their our attitude They don't like this constant carping about the media being a bunch of a-holes And they certainly don't like amen fist bump. They are not an Amen fist bump group Yeah No Yeah, yeah. No well it's interesting you say that and I always love hearing your insights about how the printed media works because i know very little about except what I've heard from you but if I look at the... Could be could be a pathological liar! Well he never even worked anyways what are you talking about? I've suspected that for so long none of its true just making it all up You wish

1:26:38 No, no. You're an asset my friend. It's all a fact. I know, you know. No, no, no. I believe there is a possibility that some news guys and maybe they should send us a note by the way these guys would never send us a note through contribution because newspaper guys are cheap They're all cheap cheap bastards well cheap bastards. They aren't so here's another problem ever pick up a tab They dress like you know they don't make it long be ripped off yeah Yeah of course So you have the 250 million dollar WordPress blog set up by philanthropist Pierre Omidyar, I drive my car around Grangreenwald. People seem to be bailing out there's not enough parachutes for people to get off that ship. Whoa! Out we go and... Greenwald is not bailing out? No he's not been of course not if you got paid

1:27:32 It doesn't matter. The whole thing is just Lei Marino, but what's happening and I saw this and i think this is part of their problem...I'm very interested in their activism. I don't really call it journalism. It seems more like activism these days with their writing but I try to get through it and the stories are so long! You keep scrolling down and down like you know this is The intercept is the entire reason for TLDR. I need someone to summarize and luckily tech dirt Tech dirt check dirt What a great name came up with that I wait a minute Dirt That's been around for a long time has no it has I've always admired the name hold on one second just gotta do something

1:28:17 I'm gonna register this domain right now. Hold on. I bet you it's available, I'm not going to say it when anyone else grabbing before I got it and the answer is... Oh man! It's already registered tech-tard dot com. I thought TechTard would be great. Anyway so they took one of the stories which was actually quite good from Intercept about the FBI's six-week cycle. Now, for those of you who are new we heard...was it not two years ago maybe? From one of our insiders at the agency? It was almost three years ago I'd guess. Maybe three years yeah from one of our insiders in the agency that there is a cycle about six weeks and every six weeks the FBI has to make some noise and have some kind of big... Keep the budget up there To keep the budget in place otherwise when you start to lose budget look bad you know you need to shake the tree got to get some...gotta make noise

1:29:16 So, you know, invariably if you look at the...I think there were some numbers I saw the other day. There was a 539 arrests the FBI made but some 370 involved either sting operation or all of the informants were all FBI. But just entrapment and dumb people. And so somehow, Intercept got hold of this tape that they made this stupid guy...this moron in Ohio put together. Remember? This was the last six-week cycle. But they left the tape running. By the way, the next six week cycle hits at tax time on April 15th. Right. Which is always a good time to blame it on patriots because we shouldn't be taxed or the sovereign citizens or someone like that will do that. It'll be something like that. Something like that, yeah.

1:30:11 So after recording the video, they left the tape on and somehow Intercept got a hold of this. And the audio captured after this martyrdom video went something so I don't have it but that's just what they wrote. I wish I had, I'd love to hear it. These are FBI agents now talking amongst each other while this schlub is off to go buy $500 worth of weapons and ammo to take down the government. They actually drove him there. Oh yeah, he couldn't drive! They drove him and put the money in his hands when he was putting stuff on he acted like he was nervous one of the speakers tells Amir he kept backing away Yeah Amir agrees you look nervous on the camera someone else adds

1:30:55 Yeah he got excited I think you got excited when he saw the stuff of yourselves referring to the weapons that were laid out on a hotel bed oh yeah you could tell. He was all like like like a six year old in a toy store so this is not there directing him, I tell him how to do everything and then literally driving him to the store. So they drove them to the store, they let... Recall what happened? They had the store owner in on it but this whole charade The store owner goes oh here you go sure you're good to go son And he walks out and the guys who drove him there pull him down like FBI don't move It's pretty funny! It's ridiculous

1:31:36 It's like the Reno 911 or whatever it is show. It just blows my mind! And so here it is, I appreciate The Intercept has this and I presume they have...I'd love to hear the audio but they're so unreadable Well they don't have an editor Yeah Correct And I've always had this hunch Because Greenwald, as you know I was a big fan of his when he was at Salon and I liked reading his material. And it went from Salon to Guardian to this own thing and it seemed like he was giving up a reasonably good gig at the Guardian because they gave him a lot of resources and he was getting the headlines that he so desperately wanted but I always had a stinging suspicion that as a lawyer he was never really

1:32:30 reporter type writer that would write the standard style that people are comfortable with and he had to be heavily edited. I know Salon is like a heavily editing operations, and by the way... And by the way haven't seen a Gregg Greenwald piece in a long time it's all these other people who are writing yeah well i think there's no editor there and they nobody say now it's too long or cut it up you take this out take that out i mean editors have their value, even though I hate to say that. Because somebody will say you said that? They have their value when it comes to people who are just they write too long and they're too verbose, they can't get to the point, they organize, they're poorly organized and I always thought Greenwald must be one of those guys and The Guardian was probably tired of over editing him because the British are sticklers for style

1:33:25 Well, so that's why they're too long. There's somebody's not there to tell him to shorten these pieces or break them up Or maybe it's just like leave it that way because then we got the information out and some people cared but generally no one cared And then everyone else left alone because I the intercept already had the story and whatever I still don't trust that operation. Yeah, I don't trust that whole operation and then I think all these people bailing out they smelled more than just the rat that is...the obvious management deficit. Yeah, I mean, Matt Taibbi was there for what? 10 minutes? Three days looked around and said, I'm out of here. You know what where is the 60 Minutes piece on that?

1:34:07 It's about time. Don't you think? This is a big deal, this was huge! Everyone was all in it and everyone wanted the job. Everyone... Oh yeah they're talking to me too, oh they're talking to you. And we had uh, who was that dickhead over there, the university guy? Oh I'm gonna advise them. What's his name? Rosen. Yeah what happened to him he- He's no longer advising them. No I think his contract ended right. Come on. The media needs to do some work on that. This is very important Yeah, nobody's except you I also very tired of Edward Snowden showing up everywhere the South by Southwest Ed Snowden and has a call to arms for Tech Tech no nice. He hasn't said anything new for over a year No, um sighs got the same same broken broken glasses that he only wears when he's brand snowed owning nonsense who cares? Yeah You know you should have stolen more stuff

1:35:06 Now we just sound like grumpy old dudes. That's mostly two guys in the balcony. It's like he, in fact when we look back on it I'd say that he just took a few PowerPoint presentations. That's all you never had any code. Just yeah card carrying member of the Central Intelligence Agency working as a contractor for NSA and Boze Hamilton Yeah, PowerPoint. Set up to just embarrass the agency. And when...just PowerPoints. All right onward. Yes this is from I think about a week ago

1:35:49 and just drug trafficking in general, in these United States of Gitmo Nation. Of course we know where the poppies come from they're all from Afghanistan and I guess the way this system kind of works is they get it to Mexico that's where it's turned into horse smack The good white, the brownstone My understanding is that's not... we used to get that report. I don't know why we didn't get another copy, my understanding is the stuff that goes through Mexico is not necessarily this stuff that comes out of Afghanistan. Well- I was under the understanding that they make their heroin in Afghanistan and it goes right into Europe. Well, that's what this clip is about. And then our international folks play a huge role This is DEA Administrator Michelle Leonhardt? Lionheart? Leonhart something like

1:36:36 something and then our international folks play a huge role here because the majority of the heroin that is hitting your streets is coming from Mexico and it's being trafficked by those same organizations that are bringing coke meth marijuana you name it to your communities these are the same organizations or polydrug organizations And we have partnered with our partners in Mexico who now have done over the last year, have really taken a look at the heroin problem. They see the role that they play and we've actually done some very good work together with them to focus on the problem." Yeah. To make it more efficient for everybody. Partnered with partners? I know!

1:37:19 I don't know. We partnered with our partners. Yeah, but I can tell you who that is because it's probably the Sinaloa cartel! Well... yeah But it seems to be- That was, I think that deal has fallen apart. It's somebody else now. Uh yeah, it's uh... What's their name? It's like a real common name. Don't know. The chatroom may know But it seems to me, particularly if you look at HSBC and all the drug money they were laundering. It makes kind of sense that it was coming through Mexico. I mean the high production as she says seems to be in Mexico. Why wouldn't you just send the raw materials there? Let them deal with it less hassle. The raw materials come from all over the place but mostly from Afghanistan.

1:38:12 I don't know, the way this somebody should explain in some more they don't want to make a point of showing that we're involved in Afghanistan traffic. No So we're never going to find out the details Not from the DEA? No, no The whole thing is ridiculous Well so I was watching some entertainment Oh And because it's taking the show off because there was a dog It's called The Mysteries Of Laura And it's got that pretty girl who was the actress, I can't think of her name offhand. Anyway she... this show is about she's a detective and it's just another cop show. What network does this air on? I think its on CBS. Okay Well whatever they case could be NBC whatever the cases didn't catch on I'll look it up while play this clip!

1:39:03 One of them I thought was interesting because they gave us a lesson on police forfeiture law and it reminded me what a scam this is. And we know there's a lot of scandals around the country about police pulling you over and taking your stuff, that money must be drug money. You've got more than 100 bucks. What do you got all this money for? Drug money. Yeah. Then you can't get it back. People confiscate computers. You can't get them back. They just keep them. But this is a, this little lesson and I thought was interesting they would put this in the show. Detective Soto permission to speak freely? Permission not really necessary but go ahead That thing you purloined from the drug bust is a bastardization of the entire neoclassical tradition and it's stupid. Permission withdrawn first of all I did not purloin the Heisman Cupid Tell me that's now what its called

1:39:56 Is this a gay cop show? Everybody, most of the cops are gay on this show. By the way this is an NBC show that's the problem they can't do anything right and it's poorly written It has a lot of like very... Hands up! Or put them at least in your waist It has a lot of juvenile lines in it. But, the thing that I observed was a little native advertising or perhaps this is beyond product placement just not like the Coke can sitting there This is, I believe, a native ad.

1:41:00 Okay, well then I get to follow that up with my own native ad that I call here. By the way it was for Rosetta Stone if you didn't notice Yes of course! The Language Learning Company Yeah yeah i love this Well this is from The Magic of Science It's on Adult Swim but its a cartoon Kids may watch this too I am serious Amy, Connor Gallivan said he'd totally hook up with you. Oh my god! He's a total creep but he is kind of cute. Oh Danielle i forgot to tell you i was going to get my HPV vaccine this weekend and i was thinking if you could come then we could just veg and watch movies afterwards. You know whatevs? Do you want to go the doctors together? Uh...I want us not to get cervical cancer that's what I want. OMG

1:41:51 Oh my god, that's definitely top mine Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah I think firecrush you have a few firecrouch can be a possible show title You never know We'll discuss 10, it will be like fire crotch is the best man. Yeah yeah it's a good catch I should have caught it we do have few people to thank very few as a matter of fact looks like about 20 but this is slow day sometimes these Thursdays are just annoying maybe we should not do them I could use a couple more days off live in squalor I guess stay home another day not go anywhere not visit the friends you don't have

1:47:46 705 we do have the two-day turnaround. I'll be flying back tomorrow Christina and I getting up at the crack of dawn like five I think we had picked up in six To get to the airport at seven yeah, not so nice really It kind of blows. But I wanted to travel early so that we get in at a reasonable hour and then just have to stay up until, you know like 11 or something and then I can be back on schedule prep Saturday and then do the show Sunday. Oh good! So you're tormenting yourself by taking one of these ridiculously early flights always so you can get back to the U.S. today hopefully not delayed at customs by any means

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1:53:45 That there still may be a slowdown so Jen Psaki we haven't seen Marie in awhile. I know I'm disappointed about like it when Marie and And Matt memory got bumped well She didn't get the promotion she but she gets to do all the show she gets to go on wolf blitzer Talk about stuff and look pretty and cute, you know that yeah, okay? Got the blue got the job will forget some other woman oh Don't worry. Hopefully she'll be funny, hopefully! So Jen of course Matt is in here in this clip and we're talking about Venezuela. In Venezuela of course there was a you know some disruption immediately the United States is blamed because I'm pretty sure were to blame We like doing that we've tried it several times just throughout history how long have we been trying to screw things up there?

1:54:45 Well, we're not trying to screw things up. Okay? We just want them to do what we say. Yeah exactly! Well...we never do that. We have a policy of not meddling in affairs of countries apparently according to Jen. President Maduro last night went on the air and said that they'd arrested multiple people who were allegedly behind a coup that was backed by the United States What is your response? These latest accusations, like all previous such accusations are ludicrous. As a matter of longstanding policy the United States does not support political transitions by non-constitutional means. Political transitions must be democratic constitutional peaceful and legal we've seen many times that the Venezuelan government tries to distract from its own actions by blaming the United States for

1:55:39 or other members of the international community for events inside Venezuela. These efforts reflect a lack of seriousness on the part of the Venezuelan government to deal with the grave situation it faces." There's Matt, thank goodness! This is the only other person by the way that I know in media who will discuss things that are so obvious but other outfits just don't do. Whoa whoa whoa! The US has a long-standing practice promoting, what did you say? How long-standing is that? I would in particular in South and Latin America. That is not a long standing practice

1:56:16 Well my point here Matt without getting into history is that we do not support, we have no involvement with and these are ludicrous accusations. In this specific case? Correct But if you go back Not that long ago during your lifetime So last 21 years Didn't what didn't you play this clip already No maybe because this is from a couple just from about a week ago or two weeks ago a week ago I thought you played it. I don't believe so. Oh, okay. Well now you bummed me out and now I don't even want to finish it. Well, you can finish it because people I'm sure don't listen every minute of every show, so play it. It's a good clip. Touche but does longstanding mean 10 years in this case? Matt my intention was to speak to the specific reports But you said that its' a long standing US practice and not so sure... depends on what your definition of long standing is

1:57:19 See, that's why I shouldn't have played the rest of it. You know what's funny about that clip? Is that he...I think he misused the words touche. I agree! She says oh my lifetime i'm only 21 or she said something stupid. It's peculiar you say that because I thought the same thing when I heard it yeah as when you make a joke it's not a touche No, it's not a touche at all. It's a rim shot or something is not a touche. A touche is when somebody comes back at you with something related to what you just said to skewer you. Yes

1:57:55 And that's why the term is a skewer. You would have a foil, you'd be fencing and then you would skewer the person and of course you'll be wearing something to keep from getting killed but if you weren't wearing the thing you'd be skewered, the thing go right through it and you'd go touche and drop dead. If you didn't...if you forgot I used to fence Oh yeah? I actually... J.C. Buzzkill Jr used to fence. I was the third in the Dutch National Championship juniors! What?! Well, that's a big deal! Yeah it was a big deal now how old was i must have been? You didn't keep up with it you'd be but you know your tall you have an air about you as someone with a rapier A rapier yes what is a rapier? And I could see you holding some sort of

1:58:44 thing and then yeah on guard and you're whipping around like crazy. I'm trying to think we maybe we moved, yeah i think we probably moved away from the school because there was only one metro van oeverum there was only one uh one real fencing school it was in amsterdam is a real pain in the ass no that's when i started building transmitters I could have no man. Why am I wasting my time with this damn thing? There's no chicks in fencing, man Wait a minute radio now you're talking yeah, and I got the perfect face for radio man waste of time

1:59:31 Man just trying to stick a guy with the where the needle is a waste of time and radio. That's where that money As you know, I'm always paying attention very close attention words matter what people say the president was on Jimmy Kimmel live Yes, I meant to record this I missed it completely but then again I've seen so much at the present on these shows that I find it like Dad talk about a waste of time you can if you got a clip out of this I Because when the president makes jokes he's still saying things and the other way, he was saying with some sincerity. I just want to Have this in our show for posterity You know so that we can go back and say well We had my suspicions about this if I was the president it's unlikely that is ever going to happen If

2:00:26 If I was the president... It was unlikely that I was going to be present. The moment I was inaugurated, my hand would just still be hot from touching the Bible and I would immediately race to wherever they have the files about Area 51 and UFO's And I'd go through everything to find out what happened Did you do that? That is why you will not be present That, by the way was a setup joke. At least that was obvious to me. Do you? No. Obama can. He's good but I think that felt like... With the best of them. But he is very good but I thought that was scripted.

2:01:17 The aliens won't let it happen. They reveal all their secrets. They exercise strict control over us. Now you know there are a lot of people that are going to examine your facial expressions here Every twitch, everything and say of course so did you look? Did you see? Explore. I can't reveal anything Oh really because President Clinton said he did go right in and he did check And there was nothing Well that's what we're instructed to say It wasn't worth it Alright Amen

2:01:56 Wow, I always want to just you know keep that on fire. You know you may be right on because he is He maybe just uh That's an entry that was actually quite interesting That's the way I saw it It's funny that of all these assholes who do these shows that Kimmel who? I think does the best show by the way oh really really I don't I tell you why, because Kimmel has some...because everyone has these stock gags that they like to do. Yeah. Kimmel's stock gags where he goes out into the street and asks them stupid questions, that thing where he does the unnecessary censorship. He has a bunch of these. They're all the best. They're all much better than anything Letterman's ever come up with. Oh yeah, I think Letterman lost it. Yeah, he lost it. What's-his-name does, Fallon. Fallon is sometimes good.

2:02:42 There's a lot of production. Laughs too much stuff, nothing is that funny. Why are we even discussing this? Well I'm just saying what I was trying to finish...I'll just do that as an aside is of all these guys who have had Obama on none of them have ever asked this question about Area 51 This was also ABC correct Yes Okay That's his favorite network All his buddies are at ABC It's fine it was interesting somebody ask the question I think it was good catch Sticking with President Obama for a moment, he's been on the road. He has been doing some speeches and he started talking about guns and of course this is also I guess part of his legacy tour in a way you know there was a little bit of football spiking but also apologetic or saying here's what i've done what I can do but of course Congress blah...

2:03:35 But at the end of this clip, he really loses it. This is actually at the beginning of the clip, he's already lost his train of thought and I guess he's reading a teleprompter or what was doing when I was walking around moments with the hand mic It's about Sandy Hook and about guns, and just for the newer listeners we have a lot of questions about Sandy Hook. There are a lot of things that we haven't seen i.e., anything... And there is a lot of blood... They tear down the school, you never get to see any videos or anything... The medical examiner who had the weirdest press conference ever he retired, he's gone, just gone.

2:04:17 There's a lot of strange things. We weren't allowed to listen to any 911 tapes because it would be too horrible... We were the only show that played the 9-1-1 tape! And there was nothing on it, and everybody else wasn't going to play it because it was so controversial So we played it, there was nothing on it On and on you can go to YouTube and see a million takedowns of this whole episode You had that crazy guy who kept miscounting how many kids were in his driveway Just a lotta stuff A lot of really, really strange stuff. So that's why we always did perks. You know again my interest is peaked when I yeah that's French when I hear the president talking about it. It makes sense to me and i'll be honest with you I thought after what happened at Sandy Hook that would make us think about it The hardest day in my presidency...I've had some hard days but nothing compares to being with the parents of 26 year old kids Oops!

2:05:21 So how is he going to recover? He just said, nothing harder than the day I had to be with the parents of 26 year old kids. Because he misread it. No no...no he said twenty six year old kids! No..No because actually nah i don't think that's what he said. Is that how you hear that? Oh wow. Compares to being with the parents of twenty six-year-old kids. Ah guess I could hear it that way okay. I heard a differently particularly because this next line Beautiful little kids. Beautiful little kids? Why am I laughing, i'm a horrible man! And some heroic teachers and administrators in that school just two three days after they have been just gunned down in their own classroom Gunned down in their own classroom You would've thought at that point, That's gotta be enough of uh

2:06:12 motivator for us to want to do something about this. That was the plan, that's for sure! And we couldn't get it done I mean there was just at least a congressional level so what we've done is we have tried as much as we can administratively to implement background checks and make sure that We're working with those states and cities and jurisdictions. So now he's gotten the main message out that didn't work, and now he's trying to remember what we're doing And the joke, of course is that Lanza had the guns from his mom. Yeah There was no background check would have done nothing about this But what would have maybe done something is armed teachers which was the little mistake? The president set this whole thing Oh, the president is about to call you out son that are interested and willing to partner with us to crack down on the legal use of firearms particularly handguns

2:07:14 But by the way, he didn't use a handgun. Uh, did he? I thought you only used uh... Yeah, he had a rifle. He had a rifle right? Didn't think he had a hand gun. In the absence of more what i would consider heroic and courageous stances from our legislators both at the state level and the federal level- I already cut all the pauses out of this man, I'm sorry but he's about to go nuts It is hard to reduce the easy availability of guns. And as long as there, you can go on... He just said the easy availability of guns which we presume to be background checks and psychoanalysis whatever it is that is going to put in place but then he goes into this To reduce the easy availability of guns

2:08:13 As long as they're as long as is you can go on to in some neighborhoods, and it is easier for you to buy a Firearm than it is for you to buy a book Ever hear of Amazon mr.. President come on come on. You can do better than that Oh crap could be better than that listen you can do better even your neighborhoods where it's easy for you to buy handgun and clips clips but it is free to buy A fresh vegetable. No carrots, no fresh vegetable! He's losing it here he's losing... Who? Did that- no speech writer said I got a good one let's say fire easier to buy firearm than a fresh vegetable

2:08:59 This is nuts. Um, but... Yay for unnecessary violence! I guess-I'll end by saying this. Yeah please. Despite those frustrations, despite the failure of Congress to act, despite the failure of too many state legislators to act in fact in some places it goes the opposite direction people just say well we should have firearms and kindergarten and then we should uh

2:09:47 I gotta think of another one. Oh come on brain don't fail me now, I need something I need another analogy I need a fact the fact I'm gonna fun little fact you know have machine guns and you know in bars Yeah, yeah You heard about that? Guns in bars You think I'm exaggerating? Yeah, I do. Look at some of these laws that come up! Alright...I read the Federal Register Mr President. Okay you can give yourself clip of the day. Wow! Only because it's a vegetable The vegetable really did brought it home I think. What an idiot

2:10:29 Oh man, I love that. Machine guns and bars! By the way the Texas Senate passed the open carry legislation. I thought you already had open carry? Not for handguns What did you have it for? Rifles long guns and antiques Yeah not for a semi-automatic assault rifles military style assault rifle but now The Open Carry as long as you have a concealed carry permit then as i understand Then, um... You can- I just wanna go into Whole Foods with a judge strapped to my thigh. Hey bitches! Here to get me some candles.

2:11:13 Yeah, that would be what you'd go there for. You know we have a whole Hoosier now is extremely... It's an extreme ripoff. Okay so we have... So do we know that over the last... I got a clip that'll be a segue. I'm still just thinking about my judge strapped to my thigh. I really gonna do that? You should. Can somebody take a picture of this? Exercising my first amendment and second. Whoa! Someone of those amendments So we have a... A tech boom in San Francisco. No! Yeah, Twitter moved in on Market Street and there's all these different companies all over the place they were fixed up that falling apart Pacific Gas building is beautiful When I was in San Francisco a while back we walked back from some restaurant and right by the Twitter headquarters it was like one or two guys who were homeless guys who will walk alongside of you

2:12:14 You know that kind? Yeah. And talking to you and stuff. Disconcerting! They're gonna pull out a shiv. Okay, all right so this is all going on as a Google's got their big buses picking people up and the whole thing is a bunch of it's a They're building everything There was all new apartments everywhere. It's like out of control And so let's play the homelessness clip in San Francisco and while dowsing doesn't look good for a church that prides itself on its charity works It seemed to work stop stop So the church, St. Mary's Cathedral or a couple of these churches have taken up the idea of

2:12:56 having sprinkler systems in their little annexes where they have people sit in there and try to get some sleep overnight. So, they douse them. Wait a minute! So like a little courtyard you mean? Like a church courtyard. Yeah just soak them with this grass and nice little benches. There's also the little enclaves with the stair steps and they may find a little spot that can sleep at night. They got stay soaking. They use this...they soak the guy and say it's out of there. It's only way we do it is roust him with water And so this is going on, start the clip from scratch again because you're talking to a priest about it. He feels bad about it! I don't know but... These are holy men who decided that instead of taking the meek and the poor and the hungry and the downtrodden into their home and hearth

2:13:44 Yeah, they soak them and tell me get the fuck out. And while dousing doesn't look good for a church that prides itself on its charity works it seemed to work It proved that actually there weren't as much needles and condoms and everything else around so That doesn't make it Did he say needles in condoms? yeah needles in condom Needles and condoms, noo-noo-noo-noo. In hindsight right but it did kind of prove... Randy Shaw an advocate with the Tenderloin housing clinic says it's a citywide problem But I think the larger question which I think we should have attention to is that is this failure of the city's homeless outreach program to effectively operate

2:14:27 despite having a three million dollar annual budget. I'll definitely review that with them but i know what we're doing, heavy amount of outreach. I just noticed behind you the entrance to your housing clinic has a gate that comes down is that important? Oh absolutely and we've had more people sprawled in front of our entrance I would say in 2015 than the preceding 20 years. I'd have to say that uh it honestly the problem of everything around here is getting to the point where there was frustration. The priest was gay? No, I don't know about that. Whatever the case this is your high-tech boom going on it's a high tech boom creating more homeless the guy says he seen never seen anything like his worse than it was for the last 20 years yeah

2:15:15 And in 2015, now we're only in the third month of it. Who's the mayor up there? Some guy I can't remember his name... Ed something and he was actually like the guy who is actually in that piece where says oh yeah well look into uh..I know we got a lot of money and uh...we gotta spend it on something but I don't know what were gonna do to that guy. This is a disaster and high tech guys they dont care It's all a bunch of millennials and... They certainly don't appear to, that's for sure. A bunch of millennials there you go! Just a bunch of millennials. You brought it now it's your own fault get a job! In the LGBTQQIAP category we have I think a Supreme Court decision coming up soon gay marriage? Yeah

2:16:04 And I realized when I was looking at this, you know, you also get beaten over the head with it so much when they talk about this. It's a back burner now but it's got to be coming up pretty soon. So the idea here is...excuse me…the idea is that the Supreme Court will say well because federally gay marriage is permitted we're going to make a ruling that this carries across down to the state level And I realized once again that my lesbian, gay bisexual, bi-curious transgendered ignorant agnostic etc. queer questioning brothers and sisters are being misused once again but this time it's for states' rights This will never happen It was going to be misconstrued as these states who were still left over It's only 15 States I think who still haven't implemented gay marriage as legal

2:16:59 It's gonna look like a bunch of fucking A-holes where it's really about the state's right to make this decision. And that's why it can't pass, there would be jurisprudence for it or precedent. Well, if the 10th Amendment gives the states the right to do these things unless it's in the Constitution then I think it's in the Constitution so I don't think state's rights applies to any of this. What is in the Constitution? I think gay marriage. It's not specifically said in the Constitution, but I think the equal rights for... The Equal Rights Amendment and some of it- Not the Equal Rights Amendment that was not passed, the one that was for women, but the various

2:17:41 interpretations of the Constitution, I don't see where it says a marriage has got anything to do with marriage between a man and woman. Right right right so so i think what i'm saying is if that...I have no idea all this topic has never interested me The topic of states' rights? No, not to stop topic is well. That's what I'm saying this is a state's right? This is going to be hidden under behind the gay agenda But I believe it's really a states rights issue Because I'm not quite sure what kind of just original arguments were always the states rice if they vote You know the public votes against gay marriage which they did in California Which is ironic

2:18:19 Then, they have to wait till they get it passed and do something. Whatever the state decides... It could be really far-reaching I thought it was... The problem in terms of states' rights is that there's an interstate commerce aspect to this which is... Okay right! That's where the government gets to jump in. And I moved to some state that doesn't recognize my marriage well wait a minute this is a problem Yeah that would be a reason for them to legislate then they have that power I think Because I think people are part of interstate commerce if you're moving from state to state. And, you know... Adamson Yeah but it falls under the trafficking laws. Martin So, well, you know, just stay in this thing that's bull crap. If you're getting certain kinds of rights and privileges in one state because you can be married and then you can't be married in another state, you don't get those rights and privileges is a mess. Adamson It's a mess! Martin Yes. Adamson Just these two clips, I saw this guy he was an analyst on Bloomberg

2:19:20 And it was about the oil price. What is it now? I kind of lost track since... It's around 45, I'll check. Forty-five okay which is unprecedented and of course is causing... No, not unprecedented at all! Sorry in the past five years unprecedented. Past ten. Past ten there you go. Umm..it is not unprecedented to your correct So this is a guy who was analyzing and gives a rationale for the prices going even lower substantially lower closer to the John C where the C stands for carbon Dvorak prediction of what were you at $25 a barrel 30

2:19:57 This is what's happening as prices, Mark have fallen by about half over the past several months from over $100 a barrel to below $50 a barrel. Big trading companies rather than sell it at those cheap prices are storing it they're sitting on it they're buying it from oil companies and they're putting in big tank farms in the middle of the country and Texas hoping that prices will rise in the next couple months and that they'll be able to sell it for say $60, $70 six months down the road. The problem is production hasn't slowed down despite those high prices so of those nine million barrels a day that we're producing about a million of those barrels get stuck in tanks or running out of space and that's got a lot of analysts worried that were in for crash in oil price again

2:20:44 I thought that was an interesting assessment of where we're at and how it's kind of feeding on itself. Yeah, no it's great! And then... is that a yeah-no when you go like that? Yeah, no it's great. I think it's... Amen fist bump! No, I don't think so. I think I can get away with that okay there's one beat I'm allowed one beat as opposed to yeah, no which is just a quickie. Well we talked about this on the Horowitz show and he's not in line with my thinking on this either which it's gonna go to 30. Well here's what this analyst thinks is going to happen if you indulge for 40 seconds. Why have oil companies continued producing oil at this record-setting pace? And at what point do they start to slow down

2:21:28 So a lot of these oil companies very smartly hedged back in the fall. They took out futures contracts that guaranteed them higher prices when we were crashing, say in September or October depending on how savvy you were you probably locked in a price say maybe $70-$80 probably above where we are right now. So that means a lot of these companies are still being able to sell their oil at the price above where we are today, that keeps them profitable as long as these traders are buying from them and sticking it in storage space they're going to keep on producing until those hedges roll over which will probably happen sometime later this year in the summer

2:22:08 And once that happens, then they're going to start selling for lower prices and we'll finally back up that glut to the wellhead and convince these guys to cool off a bit. And what I found was interesting is you don't think about it but so many companies that need natural resources have these hedges. So they have an average price which is what the derivatives market is all about So you can kind of forecast your business on let's say $50 a barrel oil, but most people are at 60 or 70 and even though the price is lower it's going to be constant for them until those contracts roll over. And that's what I think is an interesting time frame

2:22:44 Well, here's the way I'm seeing this. I see the same thing and I know about the storage thing and they're also putting them in ships that are just sitting there. But they're at the point where their inventory is maxed out. They can't build tanks fast enough so they're screwed. And then you have to start pushing this oil into market which is going to cause a glut which is going to drop prices even more. It has to happen it's only way these things work unless somebody rigs it and they haven't figured out a way to do that I want to reiterate this. When we had the clip on this show, which was about a year ago where the Saudis discussed what happened in the 70's and I talked about this before...I'm going to talk about it again In the 70's We had actually in the 80's when Reagan came out and wanted to put it both to Russians Would this be the Saudi manipulating oil price and F-Russia clip?

2:23:40 I don't know. Let's play that clip. No, no. This is the clip where the Russian RT folks believe that the Saudis are pumping like crazy to screw these shale oil people out of... They could have done this a while ago by the way so this is nothing new and this is what happened in the 70's too but I don't believe it was really there that they don't care they're pumping like crazy They would prefer the higher prices It's not as though those shale oil guys are eating their lunch or anything That's just bull crap

2:24:24 The point was made in another clip, which I don't even want you to look for it. Where the Saudis in the 70s or they said the 80's when their price went down as low as 20 during the Reagan administration... Because this was getting out of control, it was too low. And the Saudis and the OPEC said, can you guys back off a little bit? Slow down the pumping we'd like to get these things under control is ridiculous. And despite...and the Russians have already eaten it by then at 20 they can't really afford it, at least in the technology they had during that era.

2:25:00 And the Saudis were the only people within OPEC that actually pulled back on their production. And then at the end of the day, and I'm using that word because it's only one I can think of... It was the end of the day! At the end of the day, the Saudis lost market share and said-and we had this clip they said-"We're not doing that anymore." We're not going to stop production just so you guys can stabilize the price. We can pump and make money at $10 a barrel, and we're not going to lose market share." Losing market share is worse than losing money which is a real capitalistic way of thinking about this. So they're pumping like crazy it's got nothing to do with anything else except the fear which they've already seen happened to them in their 70s and 80s of losing market share now turn on your television

2:25:45 Turn to a news channel and tell me that you hear someone with that kind of analysis. No, no, no, no. Meanwhile... We had the clip to back that up I don't have it. A reminder to look for it after when we're doing our post show thing. Meanwhile our friend, the way he's an anti-nuke but he is also CNN's resident expert during the Fukushima nuclear disaster Arne Gunderson. Like a conflict of interest? Yes, Arne Gunderson big headlines in the UK nuclear expert warns of Chernobyl on steroids risk from proposed nuclear plant 200 kilometers from the Irish coast and this is not behoove anybody who wants to be selling that carbon-based stuff so I sent this article because this is what most journalists don't do I sent this article to our resident nuclear experts Sir Rod Adams said what you think about

2:26:46 And he said, here's Rod. Now Rod was on a nuclear submarine for two decades. He is well known in the nuclear industry and Rod says, he is wrong! The AP-1000 is the design used for four reactors under construction in Georgia and South Carolina It's good safe design that has no possibility of an event like Chernobyl Gunderson by the way has history absurd statements about nuclear energy and then there are 25 years worth links that Rod provided us with So there you go for those of you in the United Kingdom, of Gitmo Nation East. He's just wrong and there is also a longer blog post that Sir Rod put together specifically regarding this article. Why am I not surprised? Well no, of course... Let me see....I think that's what i have for now. I'm working on a couple other things. Of course the Boston trial continues which is becoming more hilarious by the day they keep coming up with video that is not the video we were promised

2:27:49 Hey, we got a really scary video of when they walked into the convenience store at the gas station. Yeah yeah yeah." And then... It's just that there is the video that we were promised of the kid putting the backpack in the trash can just does not exist and the media has given up on the story if they ever really were doing anything with it. You know if you stick with them in the mainstream media if you're sticking with this one question It would go like this, oh you're going to ask that question. Same question we're getting a little sick of this. Yeah exactly hey you can do the interview but you can't ask that question? That's another thing they do they do that to you absolutely what is happening though is kind of... We've seen videos of guys walking out! You weren't supposed to talk about that I'm out of here. Right there is one thing that is falling apart and I believe it is

2:28:50 Well, misorganization about Mars One the which we immediately debunked as phony and just a reality show You see the people who were involved in Mars one fiasco? Yeah literally the end of molding gonna put below their one-way trip. Yeah And then I believe some of it. I believe a lot of the people say y'all do it I think that many of them were sincere well so all scripted sir no No, no this is where that I think this is where they made their mistakes Sir Joseph Roche, professor at Trinity College School of Education in Dublin. He was one of the chosen ones and then he started to see all these things that were weird for instance they were supposed to come to see him and meet him as one of the 100 final candidates but that ultimately resulted in a 10-minute Skype call I'm like okay...I don't think these guys are serious about sending me to Mars

2:29:49 That was that was he was admitted based on the 10-minute Skype call in February finalists received a list of tips and tricks For dealing with press requests which included this little gem if you're offered payment for an interview then feel free to accept it We do kindly ask for you to donate 75% of your profit tomorrow's one Wow these people also had to pay an entrance fee Oh, yeah. I didn't know that! Yes apparently How much was this fee? Several thousand dollars but i don't have an exact number If anyone actually did it they're idiots Well there were a number of them and now it appears that Endemol is pulled out of the project which uh... is a sure sign that the format is dead They probably just broke Just ran out of money on this scam Which was pretty good The idea- They had the right idea

2:30:44 But you know if you don't have the resources to pick everybody up and make them feel like future Travelers and astronauts, and keep your PR scam going yeah. You're gonna get found out oh Well the beginning I thought they did a good job of like setting it up for making say be a good reality show Yeah A lot of people fell for it that was good but just as they did everything I guess see under funded things like this is no not good And then finally... They should have done it some other way. Oh, well yeah! First of all they should have had the resources to actually treat the candidates who were self-selective and chosen so called to have a real experience. Especially if they paid money Well exactly that was wrong from the get go but it shows you how well it would've worked I think and then of course the most emailed and tweeted story of the day

2:31:42 You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheese cheddar melt together. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese... Of course this is the program that has we were-we have always been trending when it comes to mac and cheese We knew this was coming This is what would people eat during depressionary times When money's tight and one dollar can feed your entire family just with a packet and some water And what was this story? They recalled six point craft, recalled 6.5 million boxes of its signature. That's the lux version. The good one. Signature macaroni and cheese. I talked about this on the DHM Plus show and did a calculation which I will reiterate. Can I make a prediction? Okay. They will sell more mac and cheese because of this story. There is metal in it!

2:32:36 which is probably the only nutrition you'd get. Let me just say that I did a calculation on the write-off, the 6.5 million boxes...I believe that Kraft will have to write off $50,000 in their next quarterly. Here's an interesting question since it's so close to tax time because that joke didn't go over with you no i didn't understand it i was actually thinking you were onto something real do the joke again No, it's okay. I don't need to do that." People who listen to the show will have heard the joke and they're laughing their milk is coming out of their nose. Anyway go on. I'm sorry? No it's okay When you said the write-off something triggered in my mind that a while back we got an email from one of our producers who said there are so many car recalls because there's an accounting trick something with a recall that there's a tax benefit or deferred tax

2:33:29 No, that's interesting. And I was just thinking so close to tax time... Maybe this is just a scam? Well, I don't know it's six and half million boxes A lot! I can't believe anyone buys that stuff and eats it. I told you ate it Yeah did you could you finish it? It wasn't all that much well one packet is not really enough for our growing boy. To dinner! It's a meal in a packet it's just beautiful I don't know. Is there anything else you need to say about it other than, I think that these recalls either have a tax benefit but it's also possible that somehow they can do...I don't know like we're all out of ideas? I know! We need to come back with new improved safe better. Believe me, I'm baffled by people who buy that stuff

2:34:24 And I've seen the dinners, they have them at a grocery outlet will have mac and cheese. Not to craft stuff but they have the craft sometimes but there's other brands off-brands. There's nothing... You better reevaluate your life if you're eating off brand packs of mac and cheese okay? Let's just do some little warning for anyone doing this. 39 cents for a mac and cheese off brand dinner! Alright we will On Sunday, John will give us a... I will write it down and publish it. Will give us his famous macaroni and cheese recipe that is not expensive but its also not for losers Don't you think he can do that? Yeah okay ill do a run through of it again so I have the exact measurements That would be perfect Alright leaving on jet plane early in the morning

2:35:21 A jet pain is what you said. Jet plane, yeah I know. No a jet pain is what it is. I said jet pain Yeah that's jet pain. I know. Jet Pain You try sleeping on the couch for two weeks. Ugh! I'm ready to go home. I'm ready to go. I really am. I'm ready for home Thank y'all very much for supporting the program Devorak.org slash NA is where you can find all different forms of support Remember its hashtag Fletcher Fest And until we meet again Fighters of Freedom, coming to you from Rotterdam the Netherlands in the morning. I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley We have another sunny kind of a warm day may hit 80 in the middle of winter here. I'm John C Dvorak we'll be back on Sunday right here on no agenda Fat lady! fat bitch! Dvorak dot org slash N A Amen fist bump