Episode 702 · Sunday, 8 March 2015

Toddler Wage Gap

A critical maintenance failure on MH370 comes to light as political scandals in Chicago and scientific reversals at Monsanto reshape the week's news cycle.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 702

About this episode

Sheryl Sandberg and the Facebook leadership face scrutiny over claims of a toddler wage gap, while a 500-page report on the anniversary of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 reveals a critical maintenance failure. The investigation into the missing aircraft found that the underwater locator beacon battery had expired a year prior to the crash, raising serious questions about aviation safety standards at Malaysia Airlines and other regional carriers.

In Chicago, Mayor Rahm Emanuel faces a pay-to-play scandal after a Tribune investigation found that sixty percent of his top donors received city contracts or zoning changes. Meanwhile, the Department of Justice report on Ferguson, Missouri, officially clears Officer Darren Wilson of civil rights violations, effectively debunking the hands up don't shoot narrative while shifting focus to racist emails within the police department. Other reports include Bill Nye the Science Guy reversing his GMO stance after a Monsanto visit, Senator Sheldon Whitehouse facing hypocrisy charges over his fossil fuel investments, and the FDA approving the first biosimilar drug from Sandoz.

John C. Dvorak provides the definitive guide to perfect oatmeal, emphasizing that butter and maple syrup must never be added during the simmering process. The episode also features a breakdown of the Obama administration cadence used by Tony Blinken and a look at the security flaw where broadcast audio can trigger Siri on nearby iPhones.


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CHAPTER 01 / 40 Discussion

International Women's Day, Dementia Research Funding

The discussion opens on International Women's Day, noting that the UK Independence Party (UKIP) has pledged 130 million pounds annually for dementia research, which is cited as a leading cause of death among women. The timing of the holiday in the United States is noted for coinciding with the start of Daylight Savings Time, effectively shortening the day by one hour.

international women's day· dementia· ukip· daylight savings time· rotterdam

00:00 You'd go in pretty far with your hose. Celebrating all the girls I've loved before, live from the Russian oil transport hub of the world, Rotterdam, the Netherlands, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's called International Women's Day, I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Did I get something incorrect? What is the leading cause of death amongst women? Masturbation.

00:44 Dementia oh wow I knew that actually why would you know that because I have known several women whose mothers have had or have dementia and I know women who are who have it in the family and are worried about it and you know what's really fun fun yeah you say to these women you say don't you remember I told you that Oh, great gag. I'm telling you it's a great gag. Like, no? Oh, oh, it's okay honey, don't worry. So apparently UKIP is going to invest 130 million pounds per year to research and fight dementia.

01:29 Oh, okay. That's how you got it. That's fine. That's why I'm just reading from a tweet. Well, it's good that we talk about that because today is International Women's Day. And right off the bat, I found it interesting that certainly in the United States, women get screwed out of a whole hour of their 24. I'm sorry? Well, daylight savings time went into effect today. Well, we got screwed out of the hour too, you know. Oh, I know that, but we're not the... Oh, I screwed you. You're saying the women's day. Yes. They get one day a year. There's no equality. Yeah. And they only get 23 hours. I'm telling you, the inequality is built right in. You'd think that they would, bitch, but well, they always get paid less money, they get less hours. Actually, hold on, let me get this. You're going to love this.

CHAPTER 02 / 40 Discussion

Sheryl Sandberg, Toddler Wage Gap Claims

Facebook executive Sheryl Sandberg, referred to jokingly as Donna Sandberg, is criticized for her claims regarding a "toddler wage gap." The discussion centers on her assertion that boys perform fewer household chores than girls while receiving higher allowances, a premise dismissed as an exaggeration of gender equality issues within the home.

sheryl sandberg· facebook· toddler wage gap· gender equality· household chores

02:18 This is, what's her name, the Facebook woman? Sandberg. Donna Sandberg. What's her name? Donna Sandberg. Cheryl. Cheryl. From now on known on this show as Donna Sandberg. She's always talking about what was her big thing is you're not getting paid enough, you can't be... You're not leaning in enough. Don't be bossy. Talk about raising children in the home and raising the next gender. equality generation and you talk about chores in the household and how we're sending messages, sometimes the wrong ones to our kids right now. What? That's right. There is a toddler wage gap in this country. Toddlers, toddlers in our... You get that? Toddler wage gap, John. A toddler wage gap. ...homes, boys do fewer chores than girls and get paid more. And for any woman who's in the workforce, that feels pretty familiar. Did you do this in your household, John? Bullcrap. Can you believe this?

03:16 I find that. Yeah, I can. Of course I can. Yeah, but she had a whole... Bitching about everything. Can you imagine being one of her kids? Holy mackerel. She had this whole... Especially if you're a boy. She had this whole thing... She'd be making him wear a dress. She had this whole thing going, which was, okay, I didn't agree with a lot of it, but at least it was serious. And now this, a toddler wage gap? Please. Son, take out the trash. It doesn't take that long to take out the trash. Our daughter set the table. Takes longer. No, it does not. What's your how big is your family of Sandburg? You got 20 garbage. Thank you I never liked taking out the trash. I don't know if you're right I would I prefer to set the day what's inside you have to do with the stinky garbage I was fine to pull that off on my brother and that's your choice But I bet you didn't like doing more chores than your brother and maybe that didn't happen in your house Yeah, no, maybe that doesn't happen in everyone's household Donna

04:08 I also had to empty the wastebaskets. It took a lot of time and yeah, and uh, and you know, my sisters would have gum in there and you have to scoop it out and Why'd you have to scoop out gum? Because they would throw it in the wastebasket and it would be, it would be sticking to the side. There was no bag. Oh, you, you, why'd you put a plastic garbage bag in there? You know, that's a good question. Um, we had those, um, more like a waste, like a paper wastebasket, not a garbage can in our rooms as kids. Just a paper bag. Like a basket. Hey, anybody got some bags? Paper bags. Yeah, use that. No, like baskets, you know, baskets. It's more like a cone. It's open. It's larger diameter at the top. So the sisters were a couple of gum chewers, you're telling me. Tiffany was. Oh yeah. Total, total gum chewer.

CHAPTER 03 / 40 Discussion

MH370 Anniversary, Expired Locator Beacon Battery

On the one-year anniversary of the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, a 500-page report reveals that the aircraft's underwater locator beacon battery had expired a year before the crash. This lapse in aviation maintenance is characterized as inexcusable, leading to a broader discussion about the maintenance standards of various Asian carriers compared to Western civil aviation protocols.

mh370· malaysian airlines· boeing· aviation maintenance· locator beacon

05:04 No, bad, bad, bad, bad. I don't know. I'm going to see her next Monday or Tuesday. So I'm here. Well, let's finish with the International Women's Day just for a moment. So first of all, I find that not okay that the women get screwed out of an hour. But only in the United States, though. Yes, of course. Yeah. We're the world. It's American. Yeah. It's American way. Screw women. We don't care about them. But I find this strange because obviously International Women's Day falls, I guess, on the same day every year. Do you know? I don't know. Which of course is simultaneously the one-year anniversary of the MH370 disappearance. So maybe last year we just didn't... there was so much to do with Richard Quest.

06:02 on CNN that we were too excited about him, that we didn't recognize. You were. We didn't recognize. A new report came out, I don't know if you followed that, on the MH370, about 500 pages, pretty much everything we knew except for one minor detail, the locator beacon, the locator beacon's battery apparently had expired a year earlier. So this thing may not have been working at all. Oh, and the excuse that's given is by any aviation standards, it is inexcusable and someone needs to be fired and maybe worse. The anomaly of the expired battery.

06:47 Let's see... was due to a computer glitch. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's not acceptable. These things need... this is the whole point in aviation maintenance is everything has to be completely documented. Every screw has a lifetime value, including your locator beacon. Even I... I had a locator in my Cessna when I had it. I miss that plane. And I was personally responsible for making sure that it was switched out within the timeframe. And it says it right on the box itself, or now you're not going to look at that in your 777, but it's inexcusable. That's not how it works in aviation. Well, I think it was part of the whole... I think it was just general policies of the Malaysian Airlines. It just doesn't sound like a good carrier. I wouldn't fly them.

07:45 You know, one time I went up to Boeing to do an interview with the company over some of its new stuff. Years ago. Like new plane stuff or war stuff? What kind of stuff? Civil stuff. And this is when they were going to do these giant jet engines that had giant props on them. You remember this era? In the mid 80s, they had these new designs for jets that had these huge... It was like the fan inside the thing was outside. It's just they never... Yeah, that didn't fly funny enough. It looked like it was gonna chop the crap out of whatever came around. Anyway... You went out.

08:24 So I went there and I started just, you know, gossiping with the engineers and I got a hold of one of these guys. I'm saying, so what's the, you know, we're talking about maintenance. So who's the worst carrier? Asked him who's the worst carrier. And he gave you an answer? No, but he did indicate that it was in Asia somewhere. Right. No kidding. He says some of those guys, they just get the jets and we do whatever we can. We have to always honor them to get these things, maintain these planes, but they just won't do it. Yeah. Well, in some countries, I guess they don't give a crap. Yeah. But anyway, I'm in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, John. You can't even tell, can you? No. In fact, I might just be back at home in Austin. You could be. This could be bull crap.

CHAPTER 04 / 40 Discussion

Rotterdam Travel, Airline Special Meal Strategy

A travel anecdote describes a journey from Austin to Rotterdam via Atlanta, highlighting a strategy to avoid being bumped from overbooked flights. A flight attendant suggested that ordering a special meal (such as gluten-free) makes a passenger less likely to be removed from a flight because the airline has a specific inventory count for those meals.

rotterdam· delta airlines· klm· austin· travel tips

09:13 No, I'm here with... There's no way for me to find out. The Skype and... Well, no, I took a picture of Christina and I here in her house in Rotterdam. I took that picture last time you were there. Yeah, sure. We have some photographic evidence. Is it snowing? It is not snowing. It's been very cold. And Christina is in... This is an interesting little place she's got here. It's one of those that is half below street level. So it's on the ground? Yeah, you see, yeah. So your head is just above the sidewalk level? No, more like my, the mid, above my belly button. Okay. You can, I can see out the windows. Yeah. So she's kind of in the, in the half basement. And these places are old. And so she has a gas heater, stove heater in the living room and that's all she has.

10:02 How big is the place? She has a nice size bedroom, living room, a dining room, a living room, dining room thing. Yes. At least it's not like a thing, a bucket of coal. It's only a step above. It's not much of a step above that, I guess is what I'm saying. But it's nice being in Rotterdam. The sun is shining today. That is good, but I find it very cold everyone's all was fantastic the Sun is out, okay? This is happy with the Sun. He's got in from Texas Exactly. It's a little problematic for me. Oh, I learned something on the flight over John we have a no agenda travel tip, okay? so I So if I had to go to Atlanta first

10:51 And by the way, all of this, it really, the airport was crazy, Berks from airport. And I always forget that Friday afternoon, it's not a good day, it's not a good time of the week to fly. No, it's the worst time because people are, there's these, you know, commuters that usually they go to work for five days and then they fly home for the weekend. But of course with the show and everything, that's kind of the only way I can do it. And then there's only really one flight that makes sense to connect from Austin to Atlanta, Atlanta to Amsterdam. And it's on Delta and KLM and they're supposed to be kind of the same airline.

11:29 Apparently there was some kind of equipment failure earlier in the day, I think like in the early in the morning. And there were a lot of people who needed to go to Atlanta who had been waiting there since eight or nine o'clock in the morning. And here I come, you know, six, six, 24 departure time. And it's crazy. Yeah. PM. And everybody's trying to get on this flight. So it's taken forever. And there's a very short window. There's only 50 minutes, five, zero minutes between landing in Atlanta. And getting on to the you know when the when the next flight Departs for Amsterdam and right well, that's doable. Oh, it's totally doable But you but not if you're gonna be have 40 minutes late And you know they have to make up that time in the air and the boarding process was a nightmare I mean people were hanging off the wings by the time this plane was pushing back from the gate Everybody want to get it on what wanted to get on it? and so people were getting bumped off and then you know a

12:22 I made it, I made the flight. It was interesting, I still have my suitcases. But I was talking to the flight attendants about what had happened. I said, hey, do you guys wait? Or how does that work? And what's going on? And this is a younger flight attendant, of course, in the back of the bus, not up there in the front. And she said, and as she handed me my gluten free meal, which was a mistake, because I hadn't ordered that, but I had ordered it for Christina on the way back. She's flying back with me in two weeks. So For some reason, I got it on the way over. She says, you know, you should always order a special meal on the airlines. So why? Because when it's overbooked or something's messed up, they do not kick you off. Wow. That is the tip of the day. I knew it was a long windup. Yeah, no, you took forever to get to it. But wow, that's a great one. Isn't that cool? Well, of course, that may just be her carrier.

13:22 Maybe there's something to it because obviously they had to pay extra. They only have the exact amount of meals. There's never an extra meal. And if yours is some special meal, yeah, they would tick you on. They have you on a checklist there that you'd have to... That's a fantastic tip. It's the best tip ever for a while. It's one of our better ones. It's one of our better ones. Yeah. So how was the flight? The flight was crap? I wasn't able to sleep. You weren't able to sleep? No, it kind of sucked. Well you probably fall asleep halfway through the show. I'm asleep now, what are you talking about?

14:04 And then got here and then Christina. It was kind of interesting how these kids fly straight to Rotterdam No, no, no Amsterdam and then I had taxi taxi Eric pick me up and you drove From Amsterdam to Rotterdam or from Schiphol. It's not really answer the other day a complete other side of the country, right? I know but the one is way up north in the other far. It's like a whole 45 minute drive. What are we going to do? Oh my goodness, please So it's always fun to see what the kids are doing with technology and I always love watching how Christina does things and it's good to have young people around you, which I don't have now. I mean, not young, young, like in the 20s. And she's... First of all, she's... I think I told you, Dad, I've got kick-ass internet. She does. She's got 50 megabits down, she's got 25 megabits up. Now this is class act what she's got going on here. And then... You know what's the price a month?

CHAPTER 05 / 40 Discussion

Netflix House of Cards, Big Data Failure

The third season of the Netflix series House of Cards is criticized as "unwatchable," serving as a critique of the company's reliance on big data and algorithms to drive creative decisions. Despite marketing claims that data analysis dictated the perfect story arcs for viewers, the result is described as a creative failure compared to the first two seasons.

netflix· house of cards· big data· kevin spacey· streaming algorithms

14:58 I think she pays, I'll have to ask her, I think it's like, it's under 50 euros. Yeah. And then she's like, hey, should we watch some House of Cards? I'm like, no, I really, and I'll get to that in a second, but they, everyone here is using proxies, I guess, a whole lot. No, is it? Hola is that the one I don't know yeah all the kids know that you because it was Netflix in the Netherlands is no good Because you don't have you know they don't release everything simultaneously You can't the archive isn't the same of course all the rights are different Everybody is using the whole lot of the proxy servers. It's pretty crazy So they're all using proxy service and hit us servers. Oh, yeah, and and and they sign up And they sign up for US accounts if if they can't steal it, but talk about your net neutrality

15:46 Anyway, so I had already seen a couple of episodes of House of Cards since we had been talking about it, and I know that I just needed to point something out about this particular season of the series, which I've been a fan of. By the way, I talked to Mimi. She says it's unwatchable. It is. I agree. It is unwatchable. And this falls right into our wheelhouse of what we have been saying consistently that big data is bullshit. We've been saying it more than me. But they have been touting House of Cards as, oh, we looked at all the customer data. We know exactly what everybody wants. And there it is.

16:29 And so apparently they did all the research. This is true. This is what they say. This is the marketing. Yeah, this is the marketing. So the marketing says that so instead of just letting the creative writers do their thing. which is what writers do. They mark it, they studied and studied and studied and said, no, no, no, we got to go in this direction, we got to go this way, we got to, this storyline's got to go, you're telling me that's what they did or that's what they claim to have done? And now it's unwatchable. Yes, they claim... Wow, I'm shocked by this. Yeah, it needs to be pointed out that Amazon specifically, oh Amazon, that Netflix specifically has been saying how incredibly

17:10 I'm sorry. What the hell is this shut up shut up? You know they were so incredibly smart about getting just the by the way Kevin Spacey was shopping this project for a couple of years before you know Netflix picked it up, but you were you remember when it first came out Oh, we know exactly what everybody wants. This is we know how they want to watch it. We know the story arcs Yeah, yeah, good work everybody Unwatchable and I guess I won't even watch it then it sounds like there's some propaganda in there. That's useless That's why it's worth watching the problem I think she also pointed out that if you think about it the end of the second season where he becomes president That's the end of the story is for all price for you exactly the perfect ending. Yeah, no no no no oh well yeah So no I didn't have to watch that

CHAPTER 07 / 40 Discussion

Ferguson DOJ Report, Hands Up Don't Shoot Narrative

The Department of Justice report on the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson is analyzed, noting that forensic evidence did not support the "hands up, don't shoot" narrative. While Attorney General Eric Holder cleared Officer Darren Wilson of civil rights violations, the report's focus on systemic issues and racist emails within the Ferguson Police Department is viewed as a shift in the media narrative to maintain social pressure.

ferguson· department of justice· michael brown· eric holder· van jones

22:12 I just thought that was very strange. I ran into the same thing. I'll play a clip later on Amy Goodman's show. She, of course, she doesn't, she puts people on at the very end of the show. So she has the excuse, oh, we're running out of time. Bye. Oh yeah. You put in the newsletter, you had this whole thing about, cause I haven't really been able to see this, is the Ferguson conversation conversation. Are we having national conversation about Ferguson right now on somewhere? Yes, it's continuing. I was gonna actually had a Possibility for a couple of clips. I didn't clip them, but I'll tell you what they were okay You know they were on all that did Washington Week in review. They had these guys on oh, you know that it was horrible these memos I should probably should go back and clip it for Thursday because I just didn't feel like it for some reason where they go these

22:59 These memos these police wrote to each other, you know, the ones joking... They're saying horrible things. Yeah, of course. They were like shocked. All the people on this show, this Washington Weekend Review, which is set up... One of these days I'm gonna deconstruct all these shows the way they're established and why they don't work. But Washington Weekend Review with Gwen Ifill doesn't work. But they all... Oh, I read it. They were shocked. I was shocked. I was shocked by these memos. You know, lame jokes, you know, black man doesn't hold a job for four years. It's not shocking, it's dumb. It shows you the lame. Yeah, it is lame. But it's nothing, oh, I was shocked, shocked, shocked. So this continued on all the shows. I think I figured out what's going on because there are two reports that came out.

23:51 Or actually one report and then the focus kind of shifted very quickly. And this is what I found. I clipped this from CNN. What really happened the final moments of Michael Brown's life? The Justice Department investigation makes it clear the evidence does not support the mantra still being used by some protesters. Instead, the Department of Justice found that is quote inconsistent with the physical and forensic evidence. And in some cases, witnesses have acknowledged their initial accounts were untrue or witness accounts were not credible.

24:28 including the witness closest to Brown when it happened, Brown's friend Dorian Johnson, whose words helped spark the mantra. Despite the evidence laid out by the Department of Justice that Michael Brown's hands were not up when Officer Wilson shot and killed him, the hands up don't shoot movement lives. The argument is that if he wasn't surrendering, then there's a justification, which is what the DOJ and the grand jury found. To me, that's a repetitive tactic that's been used again. Now, what I'm hearing is that this report says that, and the officer was cleared, that everything right down to the actual slogan is now been, you know, there's no proof that any of this took place the way it was immediately propagated. Yeah.

25:17 But at the same... Sorry? Yeah, but there were other witnesses that they just weren't promoted as much. But yeah, no, the media pushed this one agenda. Right. But this is in Holder, the Department of Justice, it's in his report that none of these accusations about the actual event itself had any merit. But then he goes on to say, I am prepared to dismantle the Ferguson Police Department. Which I find interesting. Does the Department of Justice have that kind of power to do that in a state? I think so. Really? Under some circumstance, yeah. For bad jokes? I guess. Bad jokes, you're out. You're done. Here's a pooper and what's his name? Van Jones.

26:06 Oh, Van Jones. The fact that the Justice Department report says the narrative that Michael Brown had his hands up wasn't accurate, that hands up, don't shoot, that chant that we heard constantly, from all evidence, that was not true. That did not happen. Isn't it important to acknowledge that? Well, listen, I think it's important to acknowledge that some things are possible and some things are provable. It is certainly not provable that Mike Brown had his hands up. We'll never know what happened. Something strange happened. You did have that video of those construction workers who were white and watching. They put their hands up. I love that. White and watching. Write that one down. We need this for later.

26:44 White and watching. Yeah, I'm a construction worker. I'm white and watching. You did have that video of those construction workers who were white and watching. Do you know anything about this video? It's the first I heard about it. White and watching. I think that's kind of cool. I like that. What's going on with this? Of those construction workers who were white and watching. They put their hands up after the shooting and said something happened that was wrong. But much more importantly, this thing was about Mike Brown for about two weeks. After that, it became a cry of a generation that feels that it is criminalized and guilty until it's proven innocent rather than innocent until proven guilty all too often. Hmm. All right. Well, I don't think it's, um, I don't know.

CHAPTER 08 / 40 Discussion

Television News Formats, Fox News vs PBS

A deconstruction of television news roundtable formats compares the "expert and three questioners" model of PBS's Washington Week to the high-conflict, opinion-driven model used by Fox News. The discussion posits that the Fox model is more engaging for modern audiences, while the podcasting "eavesdropping" model offers a more authentic alternative to traditional broadcast structures.

fox news· pbs· washington week· gwen ifill· podcasting

27:32 I don't know, it's still in the news, it's going on, blah, blah, blah. And it seems to be going in a circle. So I'm watching Washington Weekend Review and I'm trying to, because this happened, I don't know, maybe I'll talk about this some other time, but I decided to start deconstructing these talks. Roundtable talking shows you mean like meet the press and all of them, okay? Oh, cuz I do I've done a number of them myself with different formats a good idea of course and you know exactly I've always wondered what's why some of these are just dull and I then I realized that Fox actually has the formula correct in some circumstance the chicks hot chicks with their legs bare under the table and

28:13 Well, I think that's just an element. I think the real reason that these are more successful is because everyone has an opinion. These old-fashioned shows, and Washington Week in Review is probably the classic amongst them, although our local KQED station has a couple of these shows that are very similar. I think News Table or Newsroom or something is one of them. And the way the show goes, you have a host in the middle. And all the host does is throw a story to one of the four guests. It's always a host in the middle, four guests surrounding, which is, and then that's actually, then it's actually turned into a three-person show because the one guest is the one that's the expert and the other three people toss questions at them, at the third guy, the fourth guy. And the host doesn't do anything. The host sits there. Sounds like a good gig.

29:06 Wait for the host. He doesn't really have a personality I Would put Gwen in that category. Oh, yeah Anyway, you say and so then so one person's an expert and the other people are idiots asking the expert questions Then it goes to the next person who covered a story there still a reporter covering a story, but they're given the latitude to have an opinion about the story. So then the three other people that didn't cover the story get to ask them questions, and it goes back and forth that way. It's extremely dull. Now, Fox figured out that what you want is four people with an opinion about the story and a perspective on the story that's different.

29:49 So you have one person who maybe did or didn't cover this, right? It doesn't make any difference. So you have a full spectrum is what you mean of a spectrum of opinions and they're all going at each other, right? Which is different than three people asking one person a bunch of questions, which is extremely boring. And that's the old fashioned model. And that's the model that's used at KQED too. And I only reminded of this because one time when I was doing one of my X3 shows where I had broken the model down to a host at the end, which I've seen some people move to, host at the end instead of in the middle, and then three people instead of four, because if you have four people yacking away, it's just too many people. And I had one of the guests I brought in, I won't say who she is, but she had apparently done the KQED show a lot.

30:35 So she was of the opinion that she was there to ask questions. Oh, we're so sorry. That is exactly what we didn't want you to do. No, no, no. Oh my God. How can I shut this woman up? And she was just you know, she didn't get it. She never obviously watched the show. Right. Oh, that's a mistake. She thought all the shows were like this. These PBS shows, which which is just a dreadful model. Anyway, that's inside baseball. I'm sorry. I think a lot of people are interested in that. A few. Because they have to watch these shows and I'm sure there's a viewer or two that has to watch this show. Why is this show so dull?

31:13 And is there a reason why our show is not dull because we don't hold on to that formula and we stay away from it? Well, we don't have...our show is the model, the modern podcast model of eavesdropping where two guys are talking, two guys that hope to be interesting are talking at each other and the audience is actually an eavesdropper. And so you're just like listening in. This is my opinion of this model. Of course it's your opinion. Why wouldn't it be your opinion? I'm trying to do you. Yeah, no, I think you made me. And you said a yeah and no. Amen. Fist bump. Wow, two in one, like in a span of three seconds. You're confusing me by challenge.

31:54 I'm sorry. I'm breaking the model by challenging you yes, don't don't challenge anything. I say I'm a rule follower. I'll just be quiet So it's like somebody so you're sitting at a table in a restaurant And you got two guys yakking away about something that's kind of interesting to you And so you listen in and I think that's what this is All right, let us move towards a Oh, yes, this is what I wanted to do. This is agenda 21 Wow someone tweeted me some books this morning and said this is interesting We haven't had agenda 21 on the show for a while well agenda 21 is kind of agenda 21 been the broad sense you know

CHAPTER 09 / 40 Discussion

Sheldon Whitehouse, Senator Inhofe Snowball Incident

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse is criticized for his aggressive rhetoric against Senator James Inhofe, who famously brought a snowball onto the Senate floor to dispute global warming. Despite Whitehouse's public stance on "carbon pollution," it is noted that his personal financial disclosures reveal significant investments in fossil fuel companies, suggesting hypocrisy in his climate advocacy.

sheldon whitehouse· james inhofe· climate change· global warming· nasa

32:44 So it was what was his name? Senator was it Inhofe? Inhofe? Inhofe? Who was talking in the Senate and held up a snowball. Moron. Yeah, that guy. Dick. Stupid moron. Oh, that's really full because he wants I guess that's his way of saying global warming doesn't exist. Well, whoever advises this guy needs to be shot. How can anyone think that's a good idea? So he is then slammed down by Sheldon Whitehouse. Yeah, and this actually showed up on the Scientific American 66.

33:31 second science podcast, which is fun to listen to. I have to interrupt you for a second. Sheldon, of course, because Sheldon Whitehouse is a pet peeve of mine, that guy. Oh, OK. You dislike him. Peeve away. One of our producers went, you know, I'm always talking about, you know, this is me. I got to go to Washington, D.C. and go through the paperwork and see who's invested in what. Yeah, down in the basement. Yeah. You can't go to the basement. It's like They won't post any of this stuff. Thank you very much, Congress, in openness. Yeah, this is...you're allowed to effectively perform insider trading if you're a senator, congressman, or congressperson, or staff, and you are making laws or have laws coming out that will affect certain industries. It is okay for you to go and invest. They do have that disclosed, but you can only get that down the basement at the...I think it's the... By hand. ...the National Library, isn't it?

34:25 I don't know. Or the records office and you can't take anything out. You have to copy it there. And I think it's a dollar per page. Yeah, well that's where you can make a photocopy for a buck a page. So I guess this guy went to Washington or he decided to look into Sheldon Whitehouse, who is this horrible, horrible, we're all going to die from global warming and Rhode Island is going to sink character who we've had on the show a number of times. And he's usually with Jeff Sessions, who's always berating him. So, the guy looks up at White House, he says, White House is up to his ears in investments in the oil companies. Really? Yeah. Oh, no. He said he was shocked. Oh, brother. My thinking was, you know, we're going to find some cool dirt on the guy if I go to the basement. But no, apparently just the opposite. Wow. He's just a phony. Well, I wanted to play his little bit here from the...

35:23 Scientific American 60-second science podcast as he berates Inhofe for his little snowball gag and it just shows you the level of what people will go when they truly I guess he oh he has a phone he guess he doesn't believe it who cares but here it is. You can believe NASA and you can believe what their satellites measure on the planet or you can believe the senator with the snowball. Now that's good writing right there. That's good. Inhofe, you're a loser because this guy is eating your lunch. The United States Navy takes this very seriously to the point where Admiral Locklear, who is the head of the Pacific Command, has said that climate change is the biggest threat that we face in the Pacific. You can either believe the United States Navy

36:14 Or you can believe the senator with the snowball. Every major American scientific society has put itself on record, many of them a decade ago, that climate change is deadly real. Deadly real, John. Deadly real. Deadly real. Deadly real. Climate change is real! It's real! It's real! It's real! They measure it, they see it, they know why it happened. They see it, they can see it. The predictions correlate with what we see as they increasingly come true and the fundamental principle... Wow, I didn't hear that the first time around. As they increasingly come true.

36:54 The predictions... They increasingly come true when nothing's come true. No, that's the whole thing. As they increase... I'm just gonna pack it up a little more, see what exactly what he said here. Well, you just say it's come true, eh, you know. The predictions correlate with what we see as they increasingly come true. The predictions correlate with what we see as they're increasingly... As they increasingly come true. That is the biggest bullcrap line I've ever heard. They see it, they know why it happens. This is the guy...I'm sorry. This is the guy who was at those subcommittees and he was the head during the era of the Democrats running the Senate. He was the head of these committees and we've had these clips on here just for people, just to remind people, who bring a guy on, an expert in wildfires. And the guy would come out and say, since...

37:45 such and such a year, the wildfires have increased and actually the only increase with they've increased a little bit but it's only because the correlation is with global cooling. As global cooling continues you get more wildfires. It's, you know, and he would go on with that. And another guy said, well, we only have flooding under these. And we only do this and we only do that. And they have these different experts come on at the end of the hearing. White House would just have ignored whatever they said and say just the opposite. It's so important to do something about this. Correlate with what we see as they increasingly come true and the fundamental principles that it is derived from carbon pollution, which comes from burning fossil fuels and farting are

38:29 beyond legitimate dispute so you can believe every single major American scientific society or or you can believe the senator with the snowball yeah very good so the reason I play this is first to have a little laugh and I thought senator snowball was good you know the senator with the snowball like that is to lead into our favorite guy rhymes with guy who we like so much When it comes to science and certainly all things climate change, you name it, the guy's already ready. The climate guy. Bill Nye the climate guy, exactly. Bill Nye the climate guy was on

CHAPTER 10 / 40 Discussion

Bill Nye, Monsanto GMO Reversal

Bill Nye "The Science Guy" is criticized for announcing a reversal of his stance on Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs) after visiting Monsanto headquarters. Nye indicated he would revise a chapter in his upcoming book to be more favorable toward GMO technology, leading to accusations that he has been influenced by corporate public relations.

bill nye· monsanto· gmo· bill maher· science education

39:12 But I think it was like the extra real time. It showed up on YouTube. You know, Bill Nye the climate guy is so on this so recently and to an extreme that it's become a joke on our show. Who's paying him? This is not a thing you just do. He has a book coming up. So he has a big advance. He's promoting a book. Oh, okay. So I think he's on a book tour and then it's easy. Well, if he makes an appearance on CBS, I'm pretty sure he gets paid for that. On the morning show? Yeah, I think he does. It's not that much. No, but isn't he? Well, I thought we looked up what how he made his money, but he has a book coming out. He's on more real time with Bill Maher. What is that?

40:01 What is that what they do on hbo.com afterwards anyway so it's not on television it's not on the show but they talk about it and if some I don't know some guy from the show is then interviewing the climate guy And it turns out at the very end, as he's kind of done promoting his book, he comes out with this absolute gem. Bill Nye the Science Guy, thank you for continuing to drop knowledge. Thank you. We're just trying to change the world and uh... By the way, we're just trying to change the world? What is that all about? I don't know. There's a chapter in there which I'm gonna revise. I spent some time on it and I'm very

40:41 I'm very excited. Wait, which chapter is this? Well, you can stay tuned, but it's about genetically modified food. Oh. I went to Monsanto, and I spent a lot of time with the scientists there, and I have revised my outlook. And I'm very excited about telling the world. When you're in love, you want to tell the world. When can we look forward to this? Well, I don't run the publishing business, but in general, next fall. OK. Keep an eye out. That's the way they do it. Next fall would be 2015 fall, if you're scoring along with us. Bill, thank you so much again for coming on the show. Let's change the world! Let's do it! So he went to see Monsanto, hung out with the scientists, and then, oh, I'm going to revise a chapter! Yeah. Oh gee, I wonder which way that's going. Let's change the world! Let's do it! Change the world! Good work! What a dick!

41:32 So he was sold a bill of goods by the public relations operations that work for Monsanto. That's the way I read that. Oh yeah. And Bill, not Bill. He's all giddy. Oh, this genetic engineering is fantastic. Just imagine 100 foot salmon in the ocean. So Brian the gay crusader picked up on this and he did something interesting. This is so typical Noah Jenda thinking. I love this. So he wanted to find out, let me see, what does he have here? Let's see what Brian looked at.

CHAPTER 11 / 40 Discussion

AAAS Membership, Scientific Survey Credibility

An investigation into the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) reveals that membership is open to anyone willing to pay a $50 fee, regardless of scientific credentials. This finding challenges the weight given to Pew Research Center surveys that compare the opinions of "scientists" (AAAS members) against the general public on issues like GMO safety.

aaas· pew research center· scientific community· gmos· membership

42:13 All right, he looked at the safety of...this is typical Brian. He looked at the safety of genetically modified organisms. This is one of those 97% deals that we always like pulling apart. And he found a Pew Research Center study which compares the opinions of the public and members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science. And you'll see that, you know, even when it comes to Monsanto, 88% of scientists believe they're safe, but a much lower percentage of the population believes they're safe. But then this is what Brian did. He went to go see, you know, what is this American Association for the Advancement of Science? And, you know, if these scientists are now being counted and their percentage is being held up against the American public, who exactly are these scientists? And here you go.

43:09 to become a member of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, you only have to become a member. That's $50 per year and you do not have to... Brian actually signed up. You do not have to send in any qualifications or any, like your diploma. Just any schmuck can sign up. I think we should, we all should sign up for this. Oh yeah. This could be great. We could be in all these surveys and we could be telling people what we feel about science. Well, you know, the surveys may be rigged too. Well, the Pew Center is...everyone uses the Pew Research Center as fact and great and trustworthy, even your beloved Democracy Now! Talking about Democracy Now and talking about climate change. So they had some sort of a sit-in or something in New York.

CHAPTER 13 / 40 Discussion

Darfur Conflict, George Clooney Satellite Project

The United Nations reports that nearly 500,000 people were displaced in the Darfur region of Sudan last year, marking a decade-high spike in violence. The segment questions the current status of George Clooney's "Sentinel Satellite Project," which was originally designed to monitor and shame perpetrators of human rights abuses in the region.

darfur· sudan· george clooney· sentinel project· united nations

48:54 But while on the topic, I just did a quick clip of bullcrap, or bullcrap artists more than bullcrap itself. Play this little clip here, and it's not being played much in the news, and my question is where's Clooney? Darfur? Remember when Clooney had all that— Yeah, he has the— —satellites and all this. Yeah, the Sentinel. He's actually—I think he dropped out of the Sentinel project. I'll look that up while we listen to the clip. The United Nations reports nearly half a million people were displaced from the Darfur region of Western Sudan last year, the largest amount in a decade. The U.N. blames the uptick in violence on the Sudanese government and government-aligned forces, which have waged a campaign against rebels in Darfur since 2003.

49:44 An estimated 300,000 people have been killed in the conflict. Where's Clooney? Well, he's, it's the Sentinel Satellite Project, which he is supposed to be running so he can shame everyone doing this with his handler. What's that guy's name? Prendergrast. Yes. Prendergrast. Yeah, Prendergrast. I think George Something else is going on. Of course, he married the lawyer and the lawyer is, you know, she's a lawyer for WikiLeaks, but she also has some other interesting clients. The word is that they're gonna get divorced now. No. That's what it was on the gossip sheets. Really? No. No. He's in the doghouse. Hey, the word here is, I sent you a picture of the magazines here.

50:38 Yeah. Oh my gosh. We're not talking about Clooney. No, we'll be just talking about magazines. Alright, never mind. Clooney, fine. No, he's getting divorced. I'm apparently getting back together with my first wife. Is that what's gonna happen? Is that what the gossip sheet's saying? Only if she has room for my stuff. Oh, you have no stuff. Yeah, and Adam needs to come back because it's easy for him to make money in Europe, in Holland. Right. Well, if you look at today's donations, you might consider it.

CHAPTER 14 / 40 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Hillary Clinton Artwork

The show acknowledges its executive and associate executive producers, including Sir Thomas Nussbaum and Grand Duke David Foley. The discussion highlights the cover art for episode 701, which depicted Hillary Clinton in a humorous and disturbing mashup involving her private email server controversy.

hillary clinton· donations· executive producer· oatmeal· illuminati

51:24 Well, first of all, good morning everyone in the chat room. Particularly those who showed up and figured out the time change as the Illuminati stole an hour from you last night. NoahJennerStream.com. Thank you to our artists. We had the fake Sal Lizard, I think is the artist whose art we used. And this was... This was a new... I don't know if we ever used this artist before. I have seen him. I think he's... Supplied us with stuff in the past. I don't know if we actually ever used anything. This was for the oatmeal episode 701 and it was of course Hillary Clinton as a dude named Ben sitting there behind her little Her little email. Yeah running her own servers

52:11 This is one of the... it's something so incredible about this image. Yeah, it is a... It's disturbing is what it is. It's a disturbing image and funny. It's funny disturbing. And it wasn't... didn't take a genius, but what he apparently did, I'm assuming it's a male artist, because I really do not see a female artist doing... thinking of this. took some, I guess some like a ham guy or some old fart that's at his computer and just stuck her head on his. Yeah, but also put the glasses on. There was a couple other things that were pretty nice. Yeah, there's a number of little touches. But it's very, for some reason, I don't know why, but it's extremely humorous. Yeah, it's good. And it got a lot of attention on Twitter.

52:58 Yes, yeah, we got some good didn't get enough attention to do much for our donations for this particular show 702 Yeah, but we did get a couple of executive producers after I mentioned in the newsletter We had none and then one associate executive is shooting for the moon here by coming in hoping to get the whole thing. But let's thank these three people. Sir Thomas Nussbaum in Virginia Beach, Virginia for $370. Thank Eric for all the help. Okay, Eric, thanks. And then MH370, it's real. He puts it in there and that's all. It's real! It's real! It's real! Okay. And then we have... Wait, he becomes an Earl today, I believe. He does, he does. Today he becomes an Earl. Okay. Yeah, big deal. Well, that's a big deal. That's way up there.

53:52 And then we have... Yeah, it's the Grand Duke. The Grand Duke David Foley came with 33333 from Los Gatos. ITM gentlemen and close please find a special Illuminati donation. Speaking of the Illuminati, I could use a big dose of no agenda karma for the coming week. Absolutely. You've got grand karma.

54:30 Alright, good. Grand Duke of the USA. David Good in Flower Mound, Texas is his associate executive producer, came with $200. Please accept a little extra love from a cheapskate monthly donor. He needs de-douching and a job, Karma. Okay. You've been de-douched. You've got Karma. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! And that concludes our donation segment for our producers and the associate executive producer. 702, go to Dvorak.org and jump on the bandwagon which apparently left with nobody on board. Yes, the bandwagon. Time to chase it down. But seriously, thank you, these executive and associate executive producers very much. Actually, one associate executive producer.

CHAPTER 15 / 40 Discussion

John C. Dvorak's Perfect Oatmeal Recipe

A listener-contributed write-up of John C. Dvorak's "Perfect Oatmeal" recipe is reviewed and corrected. The recipe emphasizes using regular Quaker oats, vanilla extract, and specific simmering times, with the clarification that butter and maple syrup should be added only after the cooking process is complete.

oatmeal· quaker oats· recipe· vanilla extract· maple syrup

55:33 Yeah, we appreciate that. But you always see what happens is, you know, it's the people who've been around who come back in to help us. And there's people out there who are maybe freeloading a little. Well, yeah. I want to thank Mike, producer Mike. I think this is C-Mike. He wrote up your oatmeal recipe. John C. Dvorak's Perfect Oatmeal. If you go to itm.im slash oatmeal. I just want to see if that thing works again. Yeah, but you know this itm thing has not worked for me for weeks. Try itm.im slash oatmeal. I think I like the page that I figured that made for you here. Did this work? Did it? Yeah, it came up. Okay. John C. Dvorak's Perfect Oatmeal.

56:22 Original makes one, flattened oats, regular Quaker oats, a cup of water, extract. It's true, yeah, you dumped a bunch of vanilla in there, it helps. The butter should not be at the beginning of this recipe. It says butter to taste. After it's made. Okay, hold on, I can move it. Where does it need to go? It needs to go serve with butter. Oh, okay. and serve with maple syrup. I mean, it makes it sound like... I can see somebody reading this and saying, oh, you're doing it the wrong way. Boiling the maple syrup with the water. I will put it after increased simmer time to 15 to 20 minutes after that. Why don't I just put serve, oh wait, serve. I'll make that bold and then I'll put those two things underneath it.

57:10 Okay, if you're refreshing you're good. It's fine. It's good. It's outstanding. Yeah curiously the picture of the oatmeal that you have is the background I was waiting for that is the old fat is the is the gooey is the mush I know Yeah, I was wondering if you would see that or not yeah, that's the mush I might take a picture of when I make the oatmeal the next time I take a picture I can replace it and then you could use that no problem Thank you very much. This is part of our no agenda cookbook that's running out any minute right in time for the holidays. Dvorak.org slash N A. And of course we always need everybody doing their best out there by propagating our one and only formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. I forgot to ask, did you put an Easter egg in the newsletter?

CHAPTER 16 / 40 Discussion

LegitScript, Online Pharmacy Domain Seizures

LegitScript is identified as a company that pressures domain name registrars like GoDaddy to suspend the websites of online pharmacies without a court order. By citing ICANN's Registrar Accreditation Agreement, the organization—funded by major pharmaceutical interests—effectively bypasses the legal system to shut down competitors selling cheaper or generic medications.

legitscript· icann· godaddy· online pharmacies· domain names

58:12 No. Oh. Why? Are you looking for one? Yeah. Well, you had... I'm going to put one in the next newsletter for sure. You had the click me. I clicked on that, of course, but it wasn't an Easter egg. It's a girl. Yeah. That is a good... anybody... I should challenge everyone. Does anyone remember seeing that girl in the newsletter before? If so, when and what was she... what was on her note? Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. This is the... your ongoing, here's how Photoshop tricks you campaign. She was in the newsletter once before we will mention anyone who comes up with the answer to this No one will and by the way don't spend a lot of time. I know it's not a lot of time on Something in my throat you remember when

59:01 I stayed with my old buddy out there in Malibu, who is no longer my friend. He has the porn company. And we talked about how his lawyers Just call up people, you know, because they have some kind of IP address that they say that they can prove. But really what they're doing is that they're just saying, oh, do you want us to publish this information that you've been downloading porn? Are you being accused of downloading porn or you just want to send us $5,000? So this... Yeah. It's a while ago we talked about that. You remember, don't you? I actually don't, but... Okay. I probably could jar my memory if I tried hard enough.

59:45 So I find out that because I'm looking into ways that legal content is going to be determined one way or the other, although I personally don't believe that these net neutrality rules will actually come into effect just because of, you know, what can and cannot be done by an agency of the United States government. Right. And also the mobile phone companies in a hearing, which we put on the show, threatened that they would be taking this to court forever. So this is never going to happen. Now, you know, in Canada, they have a lot of online pharmacy websites, you know, so you can order, I think it's the same medication, cheaper or it's generic and you can, you know, you can order it instead of going through the hassle in the United States. Yes, you can order from Canada. And apparently there's now very analogous to the

1:00:40 the law firm that would call people up and pretty much extort money from them. There's a company called LegitScript, LegitScript.com, that is contacting domain name registrars and saying, well, listen, we are LegitScript. If you look at LegitScript.com, you'll see kind of, they look legit. I gotta figure out who this John Horton guy is who founded it. I think I remember his name somewhere. He's got, I think he has contacts with Obama. I'm not sure. I wasn't able to find it easily, let's put it that way. I know this guy. They're calling up domain registrars and saying, you have to cut that off.

1:01:25 You have to deregister them or send it to a different DNS. Otherwise, we're going to start a suit against you. And I think most... For what? Well, the registrars, think about GoDaddy. They just don't want the hassle. No, I'm... Oh, for what? Because they say that these are illegal pharmacies. You know, because it's... LegitScript is sending notes to pharmacies saying you're not illegal... No, it's sending notes to registrars, domain name registrars. Domain name registrars. And saying... What do they got to do with it? Well, they... because they have the domain name of these so-called illegal or non-legal pharmacy websites. You with me?

1:02:12 No. Okay. You're gonna sell... Viagra, but it could also be a generic version of Lipitor, which is actually perfectly legal because it's out of patent. And you register a domain name, which is JCBsLipitor. John'sDrugCompany.com. Yeah. And then you put up a website, you're selling this legit script, then contacts GoDaddy or wherever you registered your domain name with and says, excuse me, we represent Merck. You know the guys who do 60 billion dollars a year were Merc and These guys have you it's phony. It's illegal. Whatever they say This is you know do you want us to start suing you now, or do you just want to get rid of? This domain name, and they have this document from the this is the

1:03:04 ASOP, the Alliance for Safe Online Pharmacies. You gotta love this. This is how we're legit script who they're hired by. Alliance for Safe Online Pharmacies. And they are a 501c4, of course, you can only imagine who's funding them. And here's what this... Oh yeah, gee, let me think. What drug companies are funding these guys? What a money maker. And here's what they... in the letters that they send out to the domain name registrars is... the following is contained. Per the contract between registrars and the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, registrars have the ability to voluntarily lock and suspend illegitimate

1:03:54 Websites, this is even better language than lawful. Quote, nothing in the Registrar Accreditation Agreement, the RAA, prohibits a registrar from suspending a domain name if under the applicable laws or in accordance with terms of the registration agreement Which can mean, and I know a lot about this, believe me. These guys are worse than the FBI. The registrar deems such suspension is appropriate in such circumstance the registrar does not need a court order or a UDRP, I'm not sure what that is, decision directing it to suspend a domain name. And this is working.

1:04:36 I bet it isn't because everyone's a wimp. That's the great thing about it. Now, here's what I find just looking at legitscript.com that I find to be funny is they don't even do any work. They let you do all the work. You say, make safe online health purchases and you're supposed to put in the various URLs that you might be doing business with. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Of having to go out and actually find these places. Isn't it great? Wow. Mm-hmm. Here's above all, says John Horton, president and founder, stay safe on the internet. If you were in the US and choose to fill a prescription online, make sure that the internet pharmacy is VIPPS, accredited by the NABP or legit script approved.

1:05:29 What a scam. How can we get in on one of these? We're just lazy. This is a great idea. Maybe we just have to find the next great idea along these lines. There's got to be something that we can do. This is just a straight up, you know... It's a scam. Yeah, but it's so beautiful the way it's done. I know, I know, I know. Specifically that you don't have to do any real research themselves. It's also so ethical. This is what I like about it. Man, oh man. It's just part of this giant scheme which includes Obamacare to just fill the pockets of the drug companies with these, you know, everything's gone up in price now that the government's paying for it. Oh, vaccinations are very important.

CHAPTER 17 / 40 Discussion

HPV Vaccine, Dr. Diane Harper Research

The safety and necessity of the Gardasil HPV vaccine are questioned using clips from the documentary "One Girl." Dr. Diane Harper, a lead researcher for the vaccine, explains that 90% of HPV infections clear naturally within two years and that the progression from a lesion to invasive cervical cancer typically takes 30 years, suggesting the medical urgency is overstated.

hpv· gardasil· diane harper· cervical cancer· vaccines

1:06:24 more or less free, but in fact the government's paying for them. And, wow, wait a minute, a $5 vaccination, which is what it should have been, is now 50 or 100 bucks. But who cares? You're not paying for it. The government's paying for it. This is just the way it is. You know, I didn't want to bring this up until later on the show, but you brought up vaccinations. And I have had a couple of I think it was a dentist, a relatively new listener to the show. Maybe he wasn't even that new. Then he says, he wrote me an email or something along the lines of, you know, I presume that, you know, you just to keep a crackpot angle, you do all that anti-science stuff. You know, there's a couple of things you can say to me, but don't lump me in with Republicans being anti-science. I'm not anti-science at all. I'm also not anti-vaccine.

1:07:11 you know anti-bull crap for sure. I don't think anyone can show or prove anywhere that I or you ever said polio vaccine is no good or other vaccines that have been proven for you know decades and decades but when you come up with stuff like Gardasil And this is, and the dentist. Or the swine flu, there's a classic. Oh, hello. We saw that coming out of the blue. It was just handed to us with a silver platter. And it was obvious what was going on here was all using adjuvants and all these things. First you needed two shots, it was just going to rack up. And then they changed the definition of a pandemic.

1:07:51 Yeah, they changed the definition of all this. So this is being anti-science? Is this what this guy's implying? Well, he's an idiot. Well, so I had a little back and forth because he was saying, oh, you know, by the way, I believe in vaccines, but I also believe in UFOs. So, you know, I'm like... What, he believes in UFOs? Yeah. He was trying to endear me at the same time while putting me down and saying, you know, we see more and more HPV in people's mouths. And I write back, I say, yeah, let me guess, ever since Bill Clinton made it okay for blowjobs to not be sex, I think people are having more oral sex. The guy writes back. That's a known trend. That's a known trend. Yes. Yes. So the guy- That would account for seeing more HPV and it was everybody coming in with it. Right. And then, you know, he says, yeah, oh yeah, there's definitely that, but we don't take any risks and we cut it out of, you know, we cut it out of the people's mouths after a buyout, whatever it is. So it's going on and on and on.

1:08:47 And I'm like, there must be, there's got to be more that we can do to have people understand that this particular This particular vaccine is, it really truly is a scam. We saw the amount of money that went into marketing this thing. I have my, Mickey and Christina were both terrorized by the doctors calling up after a simple pap smear with the new pap smear system, which has a much higher rate of false positives. We've done all of this work with all this research. And they call up and say, oh, you're pre-cancerous.

1:09:25 You should probably come by, we'll do a biopsy. This is not fun for women. And then the biopsy comes back and oh you're clean, but you know what, you probably should get the HPV shot. Now, there's a movie. that has been put together. It's called One Girl, and I wanted to play a couple clips from this because they have a number of scientists, doctors, and in fact, this is Dr. Diane Harper who was the lead Merck Gardasil researcher And she's in this movie. It's professionally put together. I think it's onegirlmovie.com. Have a listen to this first clip from this movie, One Girl. What we know is that if you look at all the women who get an HPV infection, approximately 70% of those are going to clear that infection all by themselves within the first year with no help from anybody. You don't have to detect it and you don't have to make it go away. It's going to do it. The body's going to take over and do it. Gee, I haven't heard that.

1:10:24 Of course not. Within two years, about 90% of all of those HPV infections are going to clear all by themselves. Oh, okay. That's 90% have cleared. Good. Now, by three years, you've got 10% of that original group of women that have HPV infections that are left. And by three years, half of those infections have progressed into what we call a CIN2-3 lesion or a precancerous lesion. So, approximately 5% of HPV infections are going to go into a precancerous lesion. Which is not what the doctor said. This would take years before you can go into a precancerous lesion.

1:11:07 They're like, oh no, you're precancerous and you're also pre-dead. So now you have that small group of women who have precancerous lesions and now let's look at that moving into invasive carcinoma. What we know then is that amongst women with CIN3 lesions, so that's a little bit more severe than the other group, it takes five years for about 20% of them to become invasive carcinomas. That's a pretty slow process. It takes about 30 years for 40% of them to become invasive cervical carcinomas. So there's some numbers that you probably won't hear anywhere else except in this movie and here. Well, let the dentist do in his own juices. Then we have the negative effects. Dr. Lucia Tomlijonovic

CHAPTER 19 / 40 Discussion

FDA Biosimilar Approval, Biotech Drug Pricing

The FDA has approved the first "biosimilar" drug, a low-cost version of the biotech drug Neupogen used for cancer patients. Unlike traditional generics, biosimilars are derived from living organisms; the discussion notes that the lack of transparent pricing for these drugs allows biotech firms to maintain high costs, exemplified by a recent $21 billion company buyout.

fda· biosimilar· biotech· cancer treatment· drug pricing

1:16:21 And then if you look into this thing... Conspiracy TARD. Well, only TARDs would say that. But the point is that if you start looking into this, you see the whole thing is a facade. It's just bullcrap. And the drug companies are behind most of it, people like Monsanto, but the drug companies. I mean, these guys have pulled the wool over the eyes of the public by charging to... This latest thing going on, there's an interesting thing that I have a clip of that's going on, which I don't know how they're going to resolve this. But this is... Where's my drug clip on here?

1:16:59 just brings me to the there was a recent a buy a new biotech copycat yeah replay this is kind of a baffling clip about some new some so they can't they don't know what to do about what just happened with these guys the US Food and Drug Administration has approved the first low-cost version of a biotech drug these are drugs made from a living organism it is a copy of the drug Nupigen that boosts blood cells in cancer patients to help fight infection. It wasn't until 2012 that the FDA even had a system to approve cheaper copies of expensive biotech drugs. The so-called BioSimilar will launch later this year, but there were no immediate details about its pricing. Interesting. BioSimilar.

1:17:50 Biosimilar, which means it's not a generic version of the drug. It's just something that's similar enough that you don't...it's not a spinoff either. It's just biosimilar. You can now look at the music industry and see where these...how this will work legally. Like, what's it, Robin Thicke with his blurred lines and the Marvin Gaye estate sued him for, and this is in court right now actually. First thing I learned, he didn't even write the song off, he just put his name on the writing credits, douchebag. Yeah, with that guy who's on The Voice. Pharrell Williams. Yeah, Pharrell wrote it. Yeah.

1:18:27 Well, Marvin Gaye wrote it. Yeah, right. Exactly. But you know, this is like in the music business, we say if you get a hit, you're going to get a writ. It's what happens. This is everyone jumps out of the woodwork. But with this bio similar stuff, write that down too. You always say, you know, when a show is done, when it's in the can, we choose art and then I, and here's what's been happening for the past year. Well, how about the title, John? I got nothing. The past couple of months. I got, okay. Past couple of months. I got nothing. Is that your invitation to me? Yeah, and then we wind up with oatmeal as a title It was a good title. I'm not really and there's a good time with that picture. Yeah Okay Okay, fine already. All right. I wrote down biosimilar. What a great title that might be hmm

1:19:21 Anyway, the point is that there was a recent $21 billion buyout of some little biotech around here because they have a cancer treatment. And the cancer treatment, it costs $100,000 a year or $10,000 a month. It's like these guys are completely out of control. That's why a little small startup can sell for $21 billion. It's crazy. We need single payer. Yeah. Anything but this. This is the worst. And we're going to start yelling more loudly about this the older we get. Hey! We need single payer!

CHAPTER 20 / 40 Discussion

Dallas Hate Crime Investigation, Ahmed Al-Jamaili

Police in Dallas, Texas, are investigating the shooting death of Ahmed Al-Jamaili, an Iraqi immigrant who had arrived in the U.S. only 20 days prior. Al-Jamaili was reportedly taking photos of snow with his family when he was targeted by unidentified gunmen, an event being scrutinized as a potential hate crime.

dallas· texas· ahmed al-jamaili· iraqi immigrant· hate crime

1:20:01 If you're gonna go at all into this, I mean, you can pull back the whole thing and hope it would revert, but with the insurance companies involved in all these health management operations, it's done. I mean, yeah, back in the 50s and 60s when doctors were making house calls and drugs were a dollar, I mean, things were different. But those days are over when the insurance companies got a clue and they took over the place. And now it's like everything's a giant scam. A single payer would fix that. Well, to a point. It wouldn't perfectly fix it, but it would do better than this. Anyway, science. Yeah. All right. Well, look at him. Look at what's going on. Look at Bill Nye the climate guy. First of all, he was a clown. He didn't need balloon animals or something. And then, wasn't he Ronald McDonald as well? Or I'm going to think of somebody. Was that Dick Cheney? I don't know.

1:20:59 But then, you know, he's talking about clients, clients, and blah, blah, blah. And he goes, this is Monsanto and comes away a believer. He's going to revise a whole chapter in his book because he spent time with the scientists. At Monsanto. Yeah, at Monsanto. He was making balloon animals for him and they said, hey, that's, well, yeah, you asked how does he make his money? Well, hello. It seems pretty obvious now. How he makes his money. Yeah, that's horrible. It's horrible. Well, you know these guys, you know, they bring out the pretty girls who happen to be in the public relations department. Yeah, well, here's my question. I think we reach a number of people. I think we, you know, I could be, I wouldn't mind at least them trying. Oh, trying to convince you otherwise? Yeah, with the pretty girls. Yeah. Yeah. Hi, Mr. Curry.

1:21:54 Yeah, she'll pick you up in an hour. She'll bring you to the office. We have a lunch. We'll have a lunch brought in. You don't mind, do you? What kind of sandwich do you like? Turkey on rye. Okay, we'll have that for you. Anything to drink? Ice tea, please. Ice tea? Oh, okay, great. Great. That's great. Stop. Stop. Yeah, no, they gave up on me. Amen. Fist bump. Yeah, sorry. Texas News, hit it. I don't have a jingle.

1:22:30 Oh, I'm sorry. I understand what you mean now. Good. A Muslim Iraqi immigrant has been shot dead in Dallas, Texas, in what police are investigating as a possible hate crime. Relatives told local media Ahmed Al-Jamaili was out taking pictures of the snow with his family when they walked past two men, who then opened fire. Al-Jamaili had reunited with his wife in Dallas just 20 days ago, after moving from Iraq. Yeah, Texas. Killing some poor guy. When it snows we get really confused in Texas. Then we start killing people. Yeah, I saw this before. I think I saw it at the airport actually while I was waiting to leave. Yeah, who knows what's going on.

CHAPTER 21 / 40 Discussion

Rahm Emanuel, Chicago Pay-to-Play Allegations

A Chicago Tribune investigation into Mayor Rahm Emanuel reveals that 60% of his top 100 donors received tangible benefits from the city government, including contracts and zoning changes. Despite documenting this "pay-to-play" pattern, the Tribune endorsed Emanuel for re-election, highlighting the entrenched nature of political influence in Chicago.

rahm emanuel· chicago· pay-to-play· chicago tribune· campaign donors

1:23:16 I mean, was there any conclusion or just... She just blathers these news items off and she doesn't do anything. And then after she does all the news headlines and she gets clips from somewhere, then they talk about Ferguson for an hour. Yeah. That's about that. Do you believe something is still trying to be ignited in this regard? But we need to continue... That's Ferguson? No, just in general that's... Well, look, it's Democracy Now!, it's PBS. It's incessant, so much that you wrote about it in the newsletter. Is this just to continue to divide black and white people in America? Is that what this is? I don't know. It seems like it's foreboding of some sort.

1:23:58 I mean, everybody's on the story. They keep harping on it. They keep revisiting it. Meanwhile, of course, we had, I was listening to Chewy Garcia discuss Chicago's had like during the Imbram Emanuel era, 10,000 shootings. Wait, how many years was that? He's only been gone for, wow. Wow. Yeah, shootings or deaths by shooting? No, it's shootings and then the number of deaths is like 4,000. It's a huge number. It's funny, I have a chewy clip. I have a chewy clip. Let's do your chewy clip. Well, let's see what I have so I can set it up. Something with the Tribune, Chicago Tribune. The Chicago Tribune clip is funny, yes. Okay.

1:24:45 of the city's elite. I want to read from a Chicago Tribune investigation of Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel and his top 100 donors that found, quote, a pattern of mutually beneficial interactions between the the mayor and his major supporters. Nearly 60% of those 103 donors benefited from his city government, receiving contracts, zoning changes, business permits, pension work, board appointments, regulatory help, or some other tangible benefit. Yet despite this, the Chicago Tribune went on to endorse Emanuel for mayor. This whole issue of pay to play, could you talk about that? Well, you know, as you pointed out, Juan,

1:25:29 The two-part series that showed a clear pattern of pay-to-play, unethical conduct, favoring the rich and powerful in Chicago came out, that's the Sunday and Monday of February 1st, 2nd. By the end of the week, they had endorsed the mayor for re-election, so it's highly ironic that that took place. Yeah. Amen. Fist bump. That's how it goes. Exactly. Yeah, fantastic. Very good. So he... this guy Chewie, I like this guy. Chewie, which I was schooled, it's a nickname for Jesus.

CHAPTER 22 / 40 Discussion

Chuy Garcia, Red Light Camera Program

Chicago mayoral candidate Jesus "Chuy" Garcia has pledged to abolish the city's red light camera program on his first day in office, calling it a "rip-off." Critics point out that Garcia previously voted in favor of the cameras as a Cook County Commissioner, suggesting his current stance is a tactical shift to gain leverage against Rahm Emanuel.

chuy garcia· chicago· red light cameras· rahm emanuel· election

1:26:08 I got a lot of email about this. I think I got none. Yeah, I didn't know but apparently if your name is Jesus then your nickname is Chewy. Huh. And I believe it's spelled C-H-U-E-Y. You have... Yes. You have C-H-E-W-I-E. I put that on as a joke. Okay, very funny. Here is... Here's Chewy's making. I anglicized it. Very good. Chewie's making campaign promises. Jesus Garcia says if he's elected mayor of Chicago, he'll shut down the city's red light camera program. G.D. Wang is live at North Avenue in Pulaski with more. Wait a minute, is the guy's name G. Wang?

1:26:46 Red light camera program. Ginny Wang is live at North Avenue. Ginny Wang. I thought it was Ginny Wang. Ginny Wang. North Avenue in Pulaski with more. Judy. Oh, Judy Wang. Getting rid of these red light cameras, that contradicts what Chewy Garcia has said in the past. As Cook County Commissioner. Now notice the lead in said Jesus and she says Chewy. He voted in favor of more red light cameras in the county. So he's doing a reverse. He's just like everyone else in Chicago. in and now he's saying, oh yeah, I'll take him out. Garcia says given what he's seen with the city's program, it's time to end what he calls the red light rip off. The red light rip off. Garcia vows to remove the cameras on his first day of office. Garcia, who faces Rahm Emanuel in next month's runoff, says the system is flawed and taxpayers

1:27:32 have paid a high price. The cameras generate about $70 million a year for the city. Garcia did not reveal how he would make up for that lost revenue. Yeah. By extorting pokers? There's all kinds of ways of doing it. Yeah. So he's got to be very similar, of course. He's, you know, and I voted for him and then against him. He probably voted for them when he was making some money off of them. That's how that stuff usually gets in, whatever company is making them or Is there any...John, has it always been like this? Is there any way back? Can we... In Chicago. Well, in general, not just in Chicago, but in general. Yeah, of course it has.

CHAPTER 23 / 40 Discussion

Rahm Emanuel Campaign Strategy, "I'm a Jerk" Ad

Mayor Rahm Emanuel has launched a series of self-deprecating campaign advertisements where he admits to "rubbing people the wrong way" and being a difficult personality. This strategy is viewed as an attempt to pivot away from his unpopularity regarding school closures and gun violence by framing his abrasive nature as a byproduct of his drive to "fight for Chicago."

rahm emanuel· chicago· campaign ads· political strategy· runoff election

1:28:12 It's just that there's, you know, the problem is it relies on a public that is suckered into being, you know, crazy about some of this stuff. Most people go, yeah, but that's the way it's always been. I have a clip called, The Manual for Mayor, which includes part of his...it's about him running for mayor and it includes part part of his new campaign advertisement, which I find to be quite funny. To say to all those big corporations and special interests who've spent all those millions to install their own mayor, we want change!

1:28:51 Now, a new poll shows the gap between the Garcia and Emanuel closing to what The Chicago Sun-Times calls a dead heat. Emanuel leads by 43 percent. Garcia's still the winner. Yeah, right. We know why it's a dead heat. We know the dead heat story. He's got to keep it going for more advertisements. Oh, it's a close race. Very, very close race, just like The Voice. The incumbent mayor faces public dissatisfaction over his closing of 50 schools in mostly African-American neighborhoods, his handling of a 2012 teacher strike and the city's high murder rate and levels of gun violence. This week, Mayor Emanuel is going on the offensive. He's running a series of new campaign ads. You say your greatest strength is also your greatest weakness. I'm living proof of that. I can rub people the wrong way.

1:29:38 or talk when I should listen. I own that. But I'm driven to make a difference. When politics stood in the way of a full-day kindergarten or tougher gun laws, I charged ahead. And when business interest said a $13 minimum wage was too high, I didn't back down. Look, I'm not going to always get it right. But when it comes to fighting for Chicago and Chicago's future, no one's going to fight harder. Right on. Right. I own that. I'm a jerk. I don't listen. I own that. So that means I should vote for you because you're a jerk and you own it? That means you're bragging about being a jerk. Yeah. Chicago is screwed. It doesn't make any difference who wins. Chewy's would just be more fun. Yeah.

1:30:26 Well, we'll see how he does. I think he has a dead heat right now. It's a dead heat. Send your cash. What do you think? I mean, there's no way Chewie can win, right? There's no way. That's not how Chicago works. No, Chicago doesn't work that way. No, no, no, no. But the media is definitely going to gouge the Chicagoans by keeping it a dead heat. By polling bullshit polls. So close. Dead heat. They're actually having him ahead. Oh, Chewie's ahead by a point. Dead heat. That's fantastic. So we make light of these types of episodes and these types of stories because we have to. We can only address this with whatever mocking humor we have left just to… it's a protectionary measure. And you need to learn how to do this as well.

CHAPTER 24 / 40 Discussion

Chicago School Closures, Karen Lewis Meeting

Chicago Teachers Union President Karen Lewis recounts a private dinner with Mayor Rahm Emanuel where he allegedly stated that 25% of Chicago's children would "never amount to anything" and that he would not "throw money" at them. This anecdote is used to illustrate the cynical perspective of the city's leadership regarding educational equity and school closures in impoverished neighborhoods.

karen lewis· rahm emanuel· chicago teachers union· school closures· education

1:31:21 A lot of people have done a pretty good job. I have one more clip about this. Okay. About Chicago? Yeah. Oh, good, good, good, good. What do you got? One last Chicago clip. Teachers Union versus Emanuel. You know, we can stop this after the woman says the first couple of things, which I just thought, very believable. I think this probably goes on more than we'd like to imagine, that cynical, government workers telling it like it is, but shouldn't be talking at all. We can have great schools everywhere in the city of Chicago and educational equity. Speaking of education, we interviewed Karen Lewis several times, the president of the Chicago Teachers Union, and she told us about a private meeting she had with Mayor Rahm Emanuel. This was back in 2012. We had this discussion. The meeting was about

1:32:12 the city's plan to shut down seven schools and fire all the teachers at 10 other schools. When I first met him, we had dinner together, and he said, well, you know, 25 percent of these kids are never going to be anything, they're never going to amount to anything, and I'm not throwing money at it. And I was like, wow, even if... Wait a minute. I want to hear that again. It's hilarious. It's great. And you know it's true. Yes, of course it is. You know, 25% of these kids are never going to be anything. They're never going to amount to anything. And I'm not throwing money at it. And I was like, wow. You know, I hear the nurses in the hospital with the sick kids talking the same way.

1:32:52 What are we going to do? We just might as well smother these kids. You know, they're never going to make it. It's not worth it. Even if you believe that, you can't say that to me. Anyway, that's good. You can kill it there. I liked it. That was good. Why waste money? Well, why are we wasting money on these losers? This is a legitimate question. This ultimately that comes, that is the, to me, that is the, and now as I'm getting older, so maybe you can jump in. That is the ultimate question. At what point should society give up on people who are just worthless? At no point. That's the real answer to that question.

CHAPTER 25 / 40 Discussion

Social Safety Nets, Corporate Veterinary Medicine

A discussion on the ethics of social safety nets transitions into a critique of the "corporatization" of veterinary medicine. The rise of pet HMOs and large corporate clinics is blamed for inflating the cost of basic animal care, mirroring the inefficiencies and high costs found in the human health insurance system.

single payer· healthcare· veterinary medicine· hmos· insurance

1:33:31 But does that mean that everyone has to be throwing money into the pot for taxes? That's really that's that you think you that is your belief? Yeah, so When you're the 80 when you're 90 and then you know, then you go then finally the ass cancer comes should we? Yeah Okay Then you want treatment Yeah, I haven't soaked the government for anything. I might speak to it at some point. If I'm 90 with butt cancer, which I hope I don't have, I'd rather just drop dead in my sleep to be honest about it. And I eat a lot of roughage, so I'm not too concerned about that.

1:34:17 I don't like some people who just eat carbohydrates and yeah, they're the ones who have the problem. And I expect to get some consideration, of course. And I think that the losers in society, many people have turned around. I've known a number of myself who have these horrible stories about what punks they were when they were kids and da-da-da. Next thing you know, they discovered something, they got interested, they went back to school, and now they're running some big company and it's an important company and they're the CEO. This can happen. And yeah, okay, it's once maybe he's right. If you're going to be cold-blooded about 25 of these percent of these kids are losers. But what about the rest of them that are kind of mixed up with these 25% losers? We sift them out or what do we do? That's the problem. You just have to throw money at it, but you don't have to waste money.

1:35:03 You know, you have to just... Adam, you're... Yeah. Adam, caveats. Well, okay. Wisely spent is one thing. Squandering it on middle management is a whole different story, and that's the complaint. Okay. That's the complaint, not the overall money spent. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah. You have a fair point because of the insurance system, because of... the way it was all set up. And we know that the parallel is insurance for your pets. I've had pets all my life, and I recall going to the veterinarian and, you know, you get a shot with a couple bucks, and, yeah, okay, fine. Now it's 400. That's because there's been a bunch of large corporations like HMOs for pets. I went to one of these with a dog.

1:35:47 These HMOs are pets and it's like you're going into a meat grinder that's very slick and they have their little rooms and they charge you for everything. They put this dog cone around the dog's head and it costs you $200. Everything's a rip-off. It's exactly the same with humans. And this is the problem. I mean, the money well spent is one thing, but spent on these operations, these corporate entities that have just decided that they can put it, it's like everything's like an auto mechanic where you can have a list of charges and you're gonna charge the person every single item on the list, whether you use the item or not. Yeah. Now, you said something that caught my attention. Do you really wanna die in your sleep? Just snuff out like that?

CHAPTER 26 / 40 Discussion

Harrison Ford, Santa Monica Plane Crash

Actor Harrison Ford successfully performed an emergency landing on a golf course in Venice, California, after his vintage World War II trainer aircraft suffered an engine failure. Audio of Ford's calm distress call to Santa Monica airport is analyzed, with aviation experts praising his skill in avoiding residential areas during the descent.

harrison ford· santa monica· aviation· pt-22· engine failure

1:36:40 Oh, that or skydiving. I was going to say fiery ball of flames was kind of my idea. I don't want to be in a ball of flames. Like Harrison Ford. Harrison Ford came close. You know, that would have been pretty cool. That's a good way to go. I mean, I'm happy he had an excellent landing, as you know. Yes, no, I saw the plane. When you walk away from any aircraft, you had a good landing. I think he walked away and then collapsed because he had broken something, his pelvic bone. You want to hear the audio of him declaring an emergency? Oh yeah, we love these audios. This is all the audio there is really. It's kind of cool because you hear him. It's Harrison Ford. That's what's cool about it. He has a distinct voice. That's it. Immediate engine failure, immediate return. Isn't that cool?

1:37:32 Yeah. He did a good job, by the way. He had a lot of experts say he did a good job. Amen. Fist bump. When you have an engine failure on climbing out, that is pretty much the worst. And there's only one way to go. He was higher than, at first it was reported like 200 feet or something. But even for him to say returning immediately, if this happens, you have an engine failure on takeoff and you're climbing out, there's only one way you're going to go and that's straight ahead down and fast. Particularly in this craft. which I love reading aviation related stories. It was a vintage jet in one story. It was a lightweight plane, like a feather light, whatever. No one has this right.

1:38:22 It's ridiculous. It was a trainer, it was some old World War II trainer, right? Yeah, I think PT-22. Yeah, something like that. Then you take a look at the pictures in obviously World War II. Beautiful. Actually, early World War II because it had the crazy circle star thing which predates the modern insignias. Yeah. And I love the internet, though. I love the show. It's the same thing is going to have the Larry Ellison. He's got a Sabre jet. I think there's a couple of I think it's a mirage as well, isn't he? Oh, he might. He might have two or three jets. But the one he likes flying is the Sabre jet, the clunker from the Korean War. I like flying things, but I like modern.

1:39:09 You know, modern, with a dude who I know who's performing maintenance. This is what I want. But anyway, so Skydive. Well, we could combine our deaths then. That would be good. You could Skydive into a flaming ball. Yeah, exactly. Alright, let's thank some people for what they've done. I'm gonna show my support by donating to Noah's Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Noah's Agenda! Before you start, John, what are the chances that you crash land on a golf course and there's a doctor on the golf course? How does that even happen? Well, I think the golf course has got nothing but doctors. Hello? That's why you want to crash land on a golf course. That's why they're right by the airport, too. Yeah. You know you've got a doctor nearby. There's always a doctor playing golf. Exactly.

CHAPTER 27 / 40 Discussion

Listener Birthdays, Archer Voice Clips

The show celebrates several listener birthdays and addresses a correction regarding a popular sound clip. A quote previously attributed to the show *Archer* is identified as originating from the anime *Kill la Kill*, while a separate clip involving the CIA and dinosaurs is confirmed as being from *Archer*.

archer· kill la kill· birthdays· job karma· missoula

1:40:03 I have a few people to thank. This was actually, well I guess we expected not to do great. This is short. This is crappy. Of all the people, 14,000 people we mailed to, a whopping 22 of them came up with 50 bucks or more. We don't even have a 40, well we only have a 49.99 I don't think on this list. Uh, no. Check came in though for that. Okay, well let's just thank these people and just... Salt of the earth. We might as well read their notes. I'll read a couple. I'll read Jennifer's note. Okay. Jennifer Loveberg in San Marcos, California, $100. Dear John and Adam, thank you both for keeping me relatively sane. My son and I appreciate your show. He turned 18 on the 3rd of March and is the reason I found no agenda. So the son discovered the eight-year-old boy, that mom listening. Cool. Which is what we appreciate. Love that.

1:41:02 Please send him birthday wishes. Also, please play the rant from the lady who tells the pigs in human clothing that these are the new truths. Where is that from, she wonders? Ah, that is from Archer, and I'm very happy you asked. Shall I play that real quick? And then I have a new one from Archer, if you want. Oh, play him back to back. Okay, back to back. Here we go. This is the original, which of course has some of our sound effects of marching underneath it. You pigs and humans!

1:41:43 So that is the the first one now they're in season five I believe and I saw I think a post from Sir Gene Baron de Marriott Sheriff of Texas that he does not like what is happening with season five of Archer I think this might be from season five can somebody explain to me why the CIA is spying on American allies? Well Ray there were these things called dinosaurs and when they died they turn into oil somehow and that's what your car uses for food. Thanks Al. Al Jazeera Actually, I was wrong. It's a screw that up. What was that that wasn't from Archer? That is from Archer the the pigs in human clothing is from kill the kill. I'm sorry okay, the other archer the other archer one is Here we go. I don't want a million emails, so don't don't email me That is that's the one from Archer

1:42:38 You know, I'm glad I caught it now or the Jackson chat room caught it for me because you know what happens when you say something wrong on this podcast, John? You know what happens? People immediately stop, stop the show, email what an idiot I am. And then you see like an hour later, Oh, I just listened to the rest of the show. Sorry, man. Therefore, taking up twice the bits and bam! If we do a mea culpa or a correction... Too late in the show. Like 15 minutes after we make a mistake. What do you mean two minutes? It's too late. We get all this email because people won't listen to the whole show before they read it. Oh man. Oh, I have to email them immediately. Yeah, there's nothing else more important to do than email us immediately over these errors. We don't make that many by the way. Very rare.

1:43:27 You just made one, but you corrected it on the spot. Well, John Holler in Missoula, Montana, 99 99. It'd be 71 years old. So we had 18 year olds. We got 15 year olds. We got 30 year olds. We got middle age. We got 71. We got an astonishing assortment of ages that listen to this show. Yeah, we do. It makes it makes me very proud. Michael Siegenthaler in Phoenix, Arizona, 77-77. Jennifer Hedrick and Carlos Pacina in Harvard, Illinois, the key of the great work. Sir Barislav Marinov in Trabuco Canyon, California. We'll put some job karma at the end of this. He says, he needs job karma to everyone else that was laid off from Gridstone.

1:44:21 Yeah, that's the company he's been donating and telling us the whole story and that people needed job karma. It looks like everyone was going to be okay. This is like, it's kind of, he has his own little, he's doing a podcast about this. He's got something going on with this. Yeah. Soap opera. Yes. A pod opera. Oh, pod opera. Register that. Podopera.com. Pod opera. Pod opera. Podopera. Pod-opera. Pod-opera. Pod-opera. Pod-opera. It just sounds bad. I like to pod-opera. I had a pod-opera for lunch. You could say pod-o-pera. Just depends on how you want to pronounce it. Pete McConnell, Peter McConnell in Stockholm, New Jersey. 7010 and he wants us to say, okay Google, erase. Ah. Funny address book. Funny you say this. Erase. Yes. Funny you say this.

CHAPTER 28 / 40 Discussion

Siri Security Hole, Judge Napolitano CPAC Interview

A security vulnerability in the iPhone's "Hey Siri" feature is demonstrated, where the voice assistant can be inadvertently activated by broadcast audio. During a CPAC interview between Judge Napolitano and Michael Hayden, the word "certainly" triggered Siri on a nearby device, highlighting the potential for remote activation of mobile devices via radio or television.

siri· iphone· michael hayden· cpac· privacy

1:45:13 Everybody who has an iPhone, I'd like you to do the following if you're not listening on the iPhone. I was, so Christina is my witness and I was able to reproduce it consistently. I was watching the CPAC interview. It was Judge Napolitano who finally got a gig. They hired him to interview Hayden on the stage there at the conservative... Michael Hayden was there? Yeah. Oh God. And, oh, and by the way, the judge said, Oh, he's a patriot. He's a good guy. That was very, very, very disappointing. Very disappointing. But so I'm listening on my laptop and my iPhone six, as you know, I'm all in, I got everything else. I'm all in on all this stuff. It's plugged in. Now when it's plugged in, then if you say, Hey, and then the, you know, the, the S word, it will activate.

1:46:09 And it will do whatever you ask it to do. As long as it's plugged in, you don't have to press the button. This is something I learned. Hey Siri, cancel all my appointments. So Hayden says something. And Siri activates and then says, I don't understand what you want me to do. And it was based on this clip from Hayden saying this, well listen to it, and if you're listening at home, then you have an iPhone, participate, let's see if it works. Only you can give it up. The majority cannot take it away from you, and certainly American spies cannot take it away from you. So on the word certainly, the way he says it, Siri activated.

1:46:49 So let me just see if anyone could do that. If anyone could do that now in the chat room, I'd love to know if that worked or not. Certainly, certainly. Only you can give it up. The majority cannot take it away from you and certainly American spies cannot take it away. I don't know what you want with American spies. Certainly, certainly. So again, I'm thinking, if I'm ever interviewed on a live show, something, you know, if it's on TV. But it can be on the radio. I know exactly what you're going to say. Michael Jackson was murdered. No, no, I'm trying to reclaim being asked on live TV after that one. That screwed up my live TV. Hey, that guy's no good, man. You can't be calling him for the show. That guy's no good. Or maybe we could just go through the street, you know, with a megaphone car. Hey Siri, OK Google.

1:47:45 Alexa I'm still baffled that this is also that the one that we always forget about never mention, which is that? Miranda or from boy every that thing is for the windows phone Murray is it Murray? What is it? I don't know what it is. Yeah, I forget it's Ingram or Lola. I can't remember the name of what I Her name was Lola. Alright, let's check it out Windows Windows phone bitch. What's her name bitch? I'll just try bitch. No, I said it's a male name What is her name Cortina? Cortina? Cortina? Do you have to say something else about Cortina?

1:48:25 Hello Cortina, erase all my appointments. Or was it Cortana? It's Cortana. Cortana, that's it. Cortana, that's their marketing there. Well let me see. We just approved Microsoft can't market. No, I got it John, here's what you do. Ready? Cortana. Ready, listen, I got it. Okay Google, tweet the No Agenda Show is great. Ooh, nice. Hey Siri, tweet the No Agenda Show is fantastic. Hey Cortana, tweet the No Agenda show as the best podcast in the universe. Hey Siri, post to Facebook, No Agenda is cool. I wonder if any of that works. We should just record a bunch of these. We should. All right, onward. It's just a security hole of epic proportions. Yes, it is. Daniel Hoffman, $70, Honolulu, Hawaii. Anonymous from San Francisco, South San Francisco, California, $69.69.

CHAPTER 29 / 40 Discussion

International Donations, Euro Exchange Rate

The show reviews donations from international listeners in Sweden, South Africa, and New Zealand. A discussion on the declining value of the Euro against the Dollar notes that while it is cheaper for Americans to travel to Europe, it has become significantly more expensive for European listeners to support the show via Dollar-denominated donations.

euro· exchange rate· donations· pi day· south africa

1:49:24 Uh, slightly drunk. Been drunk on this beautifully warm California evening. Just got John's email about no donations. Sorry I couldn't donate more. I'm a 22 year old student learning the ways of getting donation for a career in the public sector enforcing law so I'm not exactly rolling through the dough. However, Atlas willing I'll be making more money so I can donate more frequently. Okay, there you go. Oh, that's nice. What'd you play that for? He said Atlas Willing. Oh, Atlas Willing. Thank you. Sir Tom Kumbara, Tom Kumbara, 5676 from Lust Wages, Nevada. Kiwi Chris in Wellington, New Zealand, 5555. Neglectful donor, he's got a birthday coming up for too long. My birthday today, I thought it was time to turn over a new leaf.

1:50:16 Very nice. He says, the only thing I want for my birthday is for people to stop saying down south or up north. Where else can it be? Down north or up south? So why are you using so many words? Sounds like one of my complaints. Okay Google, give me directions up north. Daniel Niewong in Sweden, $50. And these are $50 donors, there's only a few. Eric Grunewald in South Africa. Grunewald. Grunewald. Grunewald. He's got to be Dutch. I mean, South Africa. Yeah, South Africa Dutch. Grunewald, yeah. Stanje Silander in Montreal, Quebec. Did you get Daniel Nguyen? Yeah. I'm sorry. I didn't hear it. Daniel Nguyen in Sweden. I'm sorry. I didn't hear it. Yep. Jonathan Beres in Amesbury, Massachusetts. Jan van der Laan in Assen.

1:51:18 30. Brian Scosaro in Chattanooga, Tennessee, where the choo-choo is. Cory McDonald in Richfield, Minnesota. Eric Mann in Spring Hill something, Florida. John Strage, Strage, Strage in San Antonio, Texas, right up the street from you. And finally, Sir Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina comes in quite often as long as well as Brett Farrell in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. And that is it for our show 702's donations and hopefully people will pick up the pace a little bit for show 703 coming up just prior to Pi Day.

1:52:03 Yes, this is a Sunday. Is that next Sunday? Next Sunday is Pi Day 3 1 4 1 5 and people in Europe and people in the Netherlands in particular I would say Supporting the no agenda show right now is cheaper than ever Have you seen with an ever? Well, if you're if you're if you're in Europe and your hand and you're sending us euros Oh shit. It's the other way around. Yes Yeah, that's what I mean Oh God

1:52:40 You know what it's the time thing it's all the stuff put together, and it's just oh man oh man oh man How do I get out of that John we did our best for years when it was a buck 45 not a buck 11 I thought it went under 110 Maybe it is. Let me check the latest. Zero versus... That's his last Tuesday was a buck eleven. 108! Wow! Wow! You're kidding! Not coming over! Oh man, let me think. You know, I just can't get out of it. You just screwed up so what? Yeah, who cares? It's not like they're throwing money at us anyway. Yeah, except for Yon von der Laan. He's our guy. Yeah, he's always there. Exactly.

1:53:37 Jennifer Lundberg says happy birthday to her son who turned 18 on March 3rd. John Haller as we mentioned earlier will be turning 72 on the 12th and Sir Kiwi Chris celebrating his birthday today. Happy birthday well-meant Love and kisses from all your friends, the staff and management of the best podcast in the universe. And of course, not to be expected no nightings today, but to reiterate Sir Thomas Nussbaum becomes Earl and... That's a big deal. Yeah, he must have a... he has a protector, doesn't he? Well, I don't know that he's asked us for one, but he gets whatever he wants. I think it's itm.im slash peerage. And...

CHAPTER 30 / 40 Discussion

ISIS Cultural Destruction, Vertical Video Complaints

Reports that ISIS militants bulldozed the ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud are met with skepticism regarding the authenticity of the footage provided. The discussion critiques the prevalence of "vertical video" in modern news reporting and suggests that some of the artifacts shown being destroyed in previous videos were actually plaster replicas rather than priceless originals.

isis· nimrud· unesco· iraq· vertical video

1:54:23 Oh, okay. As an early pick up a few extra areas. Okay. Well, let us know, Sir Thomas. Yeah, take your time. And thank you very much for supporting us. This is we really needed it. That's a happy that Grand Duke came in. It's just not easy. So Jihadi John, I'm just looking through some of the stuff here. Jihadi John, I'm just trying to figure out trying to give you some local flavor. Yeah, where's our local flavor? You're over there. I arrived here, you know, like Saturday, barely slept and I wasn't walking. It was, you know, it's freezing. And so give me a day. Oh, you just got in. Yeah. That's no good. What did you read on the plane? Well, you did get us that one tip. So that's a good, good one. That was worth it.

1:55:25 Oh yeah. Daily Star in the UK headline, Jihadi John kidnapped and stripped boys on the M1. They're really going all out for this now, aren't they? Yeah. He was kidnapping kids when he was when he lived in the when he was still in the UK, Gitmo Nation East. So he was a kidnapper and he would strip the boys, strip them. And he would strip the kidnapped boys because, you know, all these all these Islamist fighters, they're all homosexuals because that's that's so their culture and rapists. That's so their culture of boys, boys, please. We did see let's see the president delegated his

1:56:06 Is that the delegation? Yeah, so we have the money for the Overseas Contingency Operations Global War on Terrorism Fund, which I believe he has designated the actual doling out of that money now to Watermelon Head. He does this a lot. Whenever you have like the National Defense Authorization Act... John, is giving money to watermelon? No, Barack Obama. Oh, okay. Yeah, he sent a message to Congress designation of the funding of overseas contingency operations. And it's also...this is how they funded the Department of Homeland Security. But then in there, there's this like, let John Kerry determine when we can send money to people or weapons. And I believe we sent weapons, did we not? We sent some more stuff over?

1:56:55 I don't know. Yeah, I think so. Whatever they tell us is a lie. Well, some things are kind of reported. I don't know. Well, I do have one more clip from about the ISIS folks. Because you know, they've been trying to... You did not just say folks. I did. The ISIS folks. They, you know, keep trying to up the ante on them being a bunch of a-holes. So, the latest one, which I find to be—it's getting there. It's getting pretty funny. And this is closer to the—what the Taliban was doing. Play the clip. Bulldozing valuable ruins. Ah, yes. This is very good. Militants with the self-proclaimed Islamic State have reportedly bulldozed the ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud in northern Iraq.

1:57:45 in what the head of UNESCO has called a war crime. The ancient site was founded in the 13th century B.C. Its reported destruction comes a week after video showed ISIS militants smashing priceless statues at the Mosul Museum northwest of Nimrud. Further south, meanwhile, Iraqi forces and Iranian-backed militias are continuing their bid to retake the city of Tikrit from ISIL. You know, we know that this is not true. What's that? No, nothing. Never mind. We know. Well, I know we know that the other part was not true. I don't know if this is even no one has a movie of this either. How come they don't have movies of this? Have you noticed they you know, there's always a they had a story the last show we didn't use it, but about some 12 year old was taken by the

1:58:36 I guess it was the Iranian forces as they were pushing back the ISIS folks. And they had some 12-year-olds, so they murdered this 12-year-old. And then they had a cam, a little phone cam, picture of this 12-year-old. They didn't show them getting shot. But, and it, of course, was shot vertically, which is annoying. That's a no-no. It's just a no-no. Everyone does that, though. Everyone shoots vertically. So you have this stupid TV report with a vertical video with little pictures on the side of nothing. Well, no, they actually replicate the video. Who in their right mind is going to take a movie of this and not, hey, Abdul, stop it. Pull out their phone. Right. This is bullcrap.

CHAPTER 31 / 40 Discussion

Denmark Muhammad Cartoons, NYC Muslim Holidays

A contrast is drawn between Denmark's proposal to include the controversial Prophet Muhammad cartoons in school textbooks and New York City's decision to add two Muslim holidays, Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha, to the public school calendar. Mayor Bill de Blasio's move is described as a significant win for the city's Muslim community after a nine-year advocacy campaign.

denmark· muhammad cartoons· bill de blasio· new york city· religious holidays

1:59:22 There we go, I'm sorry. Well, but this is, even though we know that it's been confirmed that most of these pieces are in Western, the Museum of London, or they're in Baghdad just opened a new expo with all of the actual pieces and they keep running that footage over and over again of the guys hitting this plaster of Paris and then the wires popping out, the rods, and they just keep saying, oh, it's priceless. Priceless antique. What are we going to do? What are we going to do? Well, here's Denmark in a...I found this to be interesting. Denmark, of course, as we know, has always voted the country where the people are the happiest on earth. Happiest. Of course, they also have a very high level of usage of antidepressants, which keeps you pretty happy for a while. And now they're debating this

2:00:18 And I don't know enough about the educational system in Denmark, but we do have a few listeners there, so I look forward to feedback. The Danish Teaching Association wants controversial cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad to be included in school textbooks. The idea is supported by two conservative opposition parties. The immigration spokesperson for right-wing People's Party went as far as to say that it should be obligatory because of the challenges posed by Islam and the pressure on basic freedoms. Other supporters insisted the Charlie Hebdo killings and recent terrorist attacks in Copenhagen are an important part of history which should not be ignored. Wow. That's pretty... I think it's bold. Yeah.

2:00:57 Well, that's a lot different than what's going on in our country. We have new holidays in New York that celebrate things I don't even know what they're talking about. New York City has made history by adding two Muslim holidays to its school calendar. Mayor Bill de Blasio announced this week New York would become the first major city to close school on Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha. Muslims in New York have spent at least nine years fighting for the holiday's recognition. Shijat Khan of the Coalition for Muslim School Holidays celebrated the win. We feel included in this melting pot of the country, and we take pride of that.

2:01:39 Whole world is watching us and our fight can come to a successful close Thank you all for coming. Thank you for thank you all for listening and Thank you all for the support we did it Now question for you this sounded like he was an Indian or Pakistani guy I Yeah, it could have been. And it would have sounded more authentic if it was like Arab. Yeah. Yeah. How about sounding like a normal person? Why do this guy, you know?

CHAPTER 32 / 40 Discussion

Language Acquisition, Windows 3.1 Nostalgia

A discussion on the difficulty of losing a foreign accent in adulthood leads to a comparison of language fluency among family members who emigrated to the Netherlands. The segment transitions into a nostalgic look at the interface of Windows 3.1, describing its "File Manager" and program groups as archaic and difficult to use by modern standards.

dutch· english· windows 3.1· linguistics· technology

2:02:22 I have this guy with a deep accent who's been apparently pushing this for the last nine years and hasn't improved his accent. If I'm moving to France and learning French, I am going to eliminate my American accent over 10 years. I'm just gonna get rid of it. Well, it's not always that easy, and it's certainly not easy when you're older. When you're young, like I came in at the perfect age. You can see it with my sisters. I came when I was seven into the Netherlands. Tiffany was five, Willow was a larv, larvae three. And I speak English and Dutch fluently. Tiffany speaks Dutch better than I do. And her English is, it's, she, it's not, it's almost accentless.

2:03:09 And then Willow, of course, now Willow speaks Italian because she's lived in Italy for all this time, but her English was much poorer compared to her Dutch, just age range. And then, you know, whatever else she comes along with that. And my parents, my dad still...he can barely speak English, but it's not...his Dutch is atrocious, although people find it endearing and cute. Man 2 Does Willow...did Willow live in the United States for 10 years? No, no, Willow. That was my point. I said, if I'm sorry, but we spoke English at home is my point. We were we were the whole family unit emigrated, not not, you know, not just by ourselves. All right. Are you saying people that are past a certain age, they can't do shit? No, I think it's damning the the. No, I'm saying it's a little harder to do that. What you just said you would do it in 10 years. Sounds like an ageist kind of. No, I'm speaking from experience.

2:04:05 Yeah, you have trouble? Is your Dutch deteriorating? It's not as good as it used to be for sure. I know I can't code as well as I could when I was 20. So maybe there's something to that. And if I go to a Windows machine like a Windows 3.1, have you done this? Go to a Windows 3.1 machine and try to get a program to run. It's like, what is this? What is this stupid looking thing? It's just like, it's alien. I don't really remember what it looked like to be quite honest. Go to find a gold Windows machine. You probably have one. Windows. You know, in the garage or something. Boot it up and try to do anything with it. You will find that you, it's impossible. These things were garbage. Let me see. I'm just going to look at the, oh right. Oh yeah, so you had all these windows that would pop open. Then it would be, yeah, I do remember this.

2:05:00 Yeah, there was no start button. Well, there's that, there's file, it's called file handler or some, these little crazy little icons. I'm looking here, you have, well, you had your main, your games, your accessories and your media. And then you click that and it opened up a window and in there you had your, uh, right? That's how, yeah, that's what it sounds like. Yeah, something like that. You wanted to find, there was the, it's like the finder on the Mac, but it's still stupid. Anyway, I'm just I'm just looking at this. Okay, I can learn good French then I'm screwed Well, but I'm still stuck at the at the school school closings for religious holidays Is this something is this normal behavior in New York with de Blasio? Apparently they're gonna start closing the schools as much as they can Yeah, I don't know

CHAPTER 33 / 40 Discussion

Obama Administration Cadence, Tony Blinken Interview

An analysis of the "milieu" of the Obama administration focuses on the distinctive speaking cadence shared by officials like Tony Blinken, Josh Earnest, and Susan Rice. The "State Department cadence" is characterized by specific rhythmic patterns and the "punching up" of final words in sentences, which the hosts argue is a learned trait within the administration's communications team.

tony blinken· josh earnest· susan rice· linguistics· state department

2:05:58 How many new holidays are added this... I don't know what's wrong. Well, I know that we remove Martin Luther King Day as a official holiday or it's been on, it's been off, it goes, it comes back. It depends on where you are. Right. I have no idea. I just thought it was an interesting contrast to the Denmark use of those photos. Totally agree. Which never happened in New York. Okay, I got one more screwy thing. I've been developing this thesis, and you know it, about different kinds of milieu, which are not necessarily just who you hang out with, but you...well, actually, it's about who you hang out with generally, but it also starts to incorporate the way you walk, the way you talk, and all kinds of other little nuances, the way you gesture, for example.

2:06:49 The Obama administration has some distinctive milieu characteristics. Well, folks, fact of the matter... I'm just in language as tons. Well, that's in usage, but I'm talking about more with cadence, the way people talk. Oh, okay. Yeah. Sure. And I do have an example. I don't have it on this show, but I have it with the twerp Susan Rice and other people that work in the State Department that also sound like her. They hit the last words a certain way. Now, you know, right in your brain, you have

2:07:25 Josh Earnest's cadence very ingrained. You know what he sounds like when he talks? Yes, I do. Okay, well, I have a clip of this guy Tony Blinken, who is assistant secretary of state. I guess he's on par with the Newland, Newtelman, working for Kerry. Listen to this guy and tell me that this is not a distinctive Obama, State Department, Cadence, he sounds exactly like Josh Earnest. Davis spoke to Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken this week about that deal and a few other big foreign policy issues as well.

2:08:02 If we get a deal with Iran and that remains a big if we're not there yet Yeah at that point when the details emerge people have to look at it very carefully and if they disagree with it They'll have to say what the alternative is because it's not enough to say this is a good deal This is a bad deal. If you don't like it, you've got to propose something that would work better and and At this point, the diplomatic path to trying to get Iran not to pursue a nuclear weapon and not to be able to produce the material for a weapon remains the most effective way to do it if we can get the agreement we're trying to reach. Obama believes strongly in the freedom of religion. Yeah, you're totally right. Nailed it.

2:08:43 I was taken aback by this guy. In fact, I was going to do a... ask Adam and just run him and see who he was. Who does he sound like? Right, right. But I just think making the point is making the point. And the point is that there's a milieu that is apparent within the administration that creates people that sound like this. Nobody sounds like this naturally. Or maybe they get hired that, oh, you, I like your voice. You're hired. I don't know. I'm thinking there's really two kinds of voices in the Obama administration milieu. And one is this one, which is the

2:09:21 But let me explain to you what the president does and how, of course, we always want to do exactly the right thing for the American people. It's a little faster than that. It's a little faster than I'm working on. For the American people, we always want to do exactly what the president can do his best. He has a phone, he has a pen. And as we've said many times right here from this podium, Is that anywhere near it or? It's a little better. I have to work on it. You could probably get it. I could probably get it. I can, well, at least a version of it. They also punch up odd words. Now, Susan Rice punches up the last word in a phrase in a very awkward way. It's not like she's over the top with it, but there was a guy who used to be on PBS called Bert Wolf, who talked

2:10:02 Let me see if I can find something to read. Let's just play a Susan Rice. Let's see what she sounds like. I got it here. He served the United States with honor and distinction, and we'll have the opportunity eventually to learn what has transpired in the past years, but what's most important now... Yeah, what's most important now, I will have the chance to... It's more rollercoaster-y? Well, she punches up the... In most of her explanations, she punches up the last word in a way that... I'm going to do the exaggerated version of Burt Wolf. by reading something. The discussion that Hillary Clinton used a non-governmental email address while she was Secretary of State originally came courtesy of... Exactly. Yeah. You know, the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Punching of the important words, which is a trick. It's a trick. It is a trick.

CHAPTER 34 / 40 Discussion

Hillary Clinton, Haiti Gold Mine Controversy

A forthcoming book by Peter Schweitzer reveals that Hillary Clinton's brother, Tony Rodham, sat on the board of a mining company that received a rare gold exploitation permit from the Haitian government in 2012. The permit was issued while Bill Clinton served as co-chair of the Interim Haiti Recovery Commission, raising questions about potential conflicts of interest.

hillary clinton· tony rodham· haiti· gold mining· peter schweitzer

2:10:52 And that whole, of course, that email thing is still ongoing. We called that so perfectly, John. I have not seen a single mainstream story about the Clinton Global Initiative money. You know, coming from, you know, Saudi Arabia and from out to the Middle East. And now even people who listen to this show are saying, well, here's more about the email server. It's like, it's a non-story. We don't care. It just...except for the fact that Associated Press made a big deal out of something they have no facts on, as far as I can tell, that she ran the server from her house. That's an interesting discussion to have. I don't think she had it.

2:11:33 But it's covering up all the other stuff, people. And then we have this, just speaking of the Clintons briefly, or you want to go on with more Caden stuff? No, but I'm just saying I like to bring it in once in a while. It's a little boring at the end of the day, but I want to make it clear that I'm for some reason preoccupied with this. And of course it brings us back to Glenn Greenwald and his case. Yes, yes. And Rand Paul with the exact same cadence. And what does that mean? Are they in a milieu of some sort? I don't know. I have to find a couple more examples of that cadence because it's very distinctive. Very distinctive. I think that they both have the exact same cadence. Hmm. You know what?

2:12:23 Why don't we do a couple of side-by-side clips and we can come up with these cadence groups and we should start naming them and we should identify This is not a bad thing to do, actually. Maybe it will probably get some... But then you can find associations. Yeah, yeah. Because milieu's are about associations. It's the birds of a feather flock together sort of thing, which is all used probably improperly by law enforcement a lot. But generally speaking, if you're hanging out with a bunch of criminals, you're probably a criminal. Yeah. Interesting news about...

2:13:08 Haiti and really in regards to Hillary and and Bill if you caught this Hillary Rodham Clinton's brother Tony Rodham sat on the board of a self-described mining company that in 2012 received one of only two gold exploitation permits from the Haitian government the first issued in over 50 years the tiny North Carolina company VCS mining also included on its board built Bill Clinton's co-chair of the interim Haiti Recovery Commission, former Haitian Prime Minister Jean-Max Bellerive. The Rotem goldmine revelation is just one of dozens featured in a forthcoming bombshell investigative book by three-time New York Times bestselling author Peter Schweitzer. Ah, there you go, new book.

CHAPTER 35 / 40 Discussion

FBI Informant, Mosque Infiltration Tactics

Former FBI informant Craig Monteilh alleges that handlers instructed him to engage in sexual relationships with Muslim women to gather intelligence while infiltrating mosques in California. Monteilh's behavior was reportedly so extreme that the Muslim community he was targeting eventually reported him to the FBI and obtained a restraining order against him.

fbi· informant· craig monteilh· mosque· entrapment

2:13:57 New book. Yeah, they're lining up to take shots at Hillary. Yeah. I like this though because I remember that we, I didn't know that her brother was involved, but I do recall us looking at the rights that were given to just two outfits. Yeah, yeah. No scam there. Okay. How about this one? FBI informant. This is a guy who was—this is one of the just kind of a crazy clip that you'd hear on Democracy Now! that is funny. And I'm not sure what the point of it is, but it's just hilarious. A former FBI informant who posed as a Muslim convert to infiltrate mosques in California has said the FBI instructed him to have sex with Muslim women if it would help him gather information.

2:14:57 Craig Montel has admitted collecting phone numbers and other personal information about Muslims in the Los Angeles area, even planting a recording device in the local Muslim student union. He told HuffPost Live his FBI handlers encouraged him to date Muslim women. They were sometimes within the dates. It would get intimate. So I would ask my FBI handlers what I should do for her. And they instructed me, if I was getting good intel, to allow it to go into sexual relations. When he was working as an informant, Montel's extreme talk of violence and jihad alarmed his targets in the Muslim community, who ultimately reported him to the FBI and took out a restraining order against him.

2:15:50 Now this sounds like a classic FBI deal, right? Yeah. You bring a guy in, you make him a troublemaker. He's trying to ASFGHAD! Sign up. I got the signup sheet right here, everybody. And he's trying to entrap people. They find him annoying and they report him to the FBI and then take out a restraining order to keep him out of the mosque. Yeah, good work. Well, the intelligence agencies are obviously in flux. I wish he had done this in a speech or something. I released a statement more than anything about the rejiggering of the CIA. Oh man, this is... what do you have here? He said, I know there are seams right now, but what we've tried to do with the mission centers has covered the entire universe, regionally and functionally. And so something that's going on in the world falls into one of those buckets. That sounds like he's vying for the NSA's lunch.

CHAPTER 36 / 40 Discussion

CIA Reorganization, Digital Innovation Directorate

CIA Director John Brennan has announced a major reorganization of the agency, including the creation of ten new "mission centers" and a Directorate of Digital Innovation. This shift is interpreted as an attempt by the CIA to compete with the NSA's dominance in cyber technology and signals a move toward a more functionally integrated intelligence structure.

cia· john brennan· cyber technology· nsa· intelligence

2:16:56 with that. No, that's what it said. When I saw this, I felt the same way. It's going to be a clone of the NSA. Well, they're creating 10 mission centers. And I don't know if this is...this must be worldwide, I presume. Again, this is...I don't...maybe they weren't allowed to tape him or anything, or maybe I just wasn't...I certainly wasn't able to find it. I love listening to him say things, although he's bordering on Joe Biden boredom. He'll be establishing a new Directorate of Digital Innovation to lead the agency's efforts to track and take advantage of advances in cyber technology. This is where we can get in on the ground floor, I believe. Well, we need a good idea. We need a plan. We need an idea, a product, a product idea or a methodology or something that's catchy enough that we could be on the ground floor.

2:18:02 I don't know if we have the skill to dream something up. Well, see well we have to come up with something. Yeah. Yeah. 25 donations. I would think something needs to be done. How about, you know, because I don't know about the book you plugged earlier. I'm not so sure. Oh man. Alrighty. Here's another one. I'm now suspicious. This is a very short item. Another derailment. Ah yes, this is three or four in a row. This will be three, maybe four. There's a couple that didn't blow up I think. But I think somebody's doing this on purpose.

CHAPTER 37 / 40 Discussion

Oil Train Derailments, Firefighting Training

Following a crude oil train derailment in northern Illinois, one of the hosts recounts personal experience receiving specialized oil refinery fire training. The technical details of fighting petroleum fires—including the use of Scott Airpacks and specific "sweeping" hose techniques—are discussed to explain why local volunteer fire departments often struggle to contain such massive industrial accidents.

bakken oil· train derailment· illinois· firefighting· scott airpack

2:18:39 You'd almost think it, the percentage of likelihood of three derailments, and was it all three back and crude? Yeah, this one, play it. Another derailment. Yes, hold on a second. This is another derailment. A train carrying crude oil from the Bakken region of North Dakota has derailed in northern Illinois, causing a massive fire. The incident follows two previous oil derailments last month, which happened within days of each other in Ontario, Canada, and in West Virginia. You can go to our website for discussion. Now, this one, they say that the firemen couldn't do anything, and they just abandoned it, let it burn out.

2:19:25 Which is bullcrap because it is just they're not trained to deal with petroleum fires or his specialty. I actually am trained in that regard. As a firefighter? Yeah. What, really? I know, it's crazy. Oh, stop! No, no, no, no, stop! Yeah? I've known you for a number of years. This time you surprise me. You've been trained in the skill of fighting a carbon-based fire on a train. An oil fire on a train or just in any oil fire. Are you like Red Adair? No, I don't have those skills. That's explosives. That actually works well too. You work at an oil refinery, which I did. They give you, I don't know if it's optional or not, but I'm not passing it up.

2:20:21 oil fighting, oil refinery fires training. And it's fascinating, but it's not something you would normally think how to do it right. One of the things is that you have to do, and you get to play all these different roles, is you have to be, you'd go in pretty far with your hose, but you have two or three guys trained on you. They're blasting you. while you're going in. So you're- Alright, let me get this straight. So you take your hose and you roll that sucker as far in as you can get it and then some guy, some dude behind you is blasting you with his hose? A couple of guys. Oh! Gets better.

2:21:10 Yeah, so you're getting blasted so you can stay cool because it's really hot. You're talking about an oil fire. Oh, okay. And so you go in and they're blasting you and you go in and then you can put the fire out because you're right on it and you have to know which direction to blow it. You actually always start This is just a generalized fire tip for people who use extinguishers. In case you have an oil fire, people, here's a tip. If you have any fire at all, if it's on the, like say a kitchen fire, you always want to sweep it away from your, so you always hit the stuff in front of you, right in front of you, and then you push it.

2:21:46 until you extinguish it. Because if you just start dropping it in the middle or just going aimlessly, it just keeps reigniting. It's a real... with any sort of oil fire, which would include a frying pan that fell on the floor. Are you making this up now or is this... you really had this trained? No, it's true. If you talk to anyone who's a firefighter, they'll tell you you obviously sweep away Right. Yeah. Because if you don't, it just never get the damn thing out. Just what do you do? But now where did you train on an actual fires for this? Yes. Wow. This thing up. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Did you have protective gear on you go? Oh yeah. Yeah. You got a Scott air pack. This is not non-trivial. There's a normal fire guy. Most fire guys I think have Scott air packs. So you put on some protective gear and you throw on a Scott air pack. So would you throw over? I'm sorry. A Scott air pack.

2:22:36 Oh, yeah, Scott Airpack. That's what they're called. And a Scott Airpack is a breathing apparatus with a couple oxygen tanks. Oh, okay, yeah. That's the real deal. You got the big tank and you got the helmet with the breathing apparatus. You got all that stuff. And you can get them on eBay. You put this thing on and then you get your hose and you go in. It's fantastic. It's an $800 item, that thing. That's not a cheap little deal we got there. Oh, you can pick up some second-hand ones that look a little scorched. This is 400 bucks. Wow. John, you never cease to amaze me. Ah, it's astonishing. I amaze myself. Yeah, no, that was pretty good. I have only one thing to say. Go fuck yourself. I'm sorry, I just... I get sent stuff in. I get sent stuff in during the show. I thought I'd try it. I didn't know it was gonna be... I didn't mean that towards you.

2:23:33 I thought it was gonna be something else. Yeah, well it didn't work out. No, it did not work out. But yes, so they fire regular fire guys, I guess they don't know the tricks, which is, you know, there's a couple of tricks involved. I mean, if you even know, then you'd think that they'd know. Yeah, you would. But they said, nah, screw this thing, we're out of here. They let it burn out. Like, wow, okay. Fantastic. It was too hot. It could have been like the volunteer fire guys, they don't know what, you know, they're just can hold something down. Well, what I understand is that the that these tanker cars on the train, that they had the special reinforced tanks on them.

CHAPTER 38 / 40 Discussion

Fire Safety, Residential Construction Standards

The discussion shifts to residential fire safety, noting that most American homes are "fire traps" built primarily of wood. While wood construction is necessary in California due to earthquake risks, the prevalence of wood-framed "McMansions" in Texas is attributed to cheap building costs rather than structural necessity.

fire prevention· architecture· earthquakes· wood construction· texas

2:24:14 Well, there's a long story behind those tanks which were approved. They're not still the right tanks for that crap. Okay. Okay. I mean, that's the way I understand it. That long report that I only clipped a little bit of before, like 10 shows ago. By the way, I've always said this too, although I've talked to my local fire department about this, I think everyone in the family should have fire training with extinguishers so they know how to use them right. And local fire departments should provide this for anyone who wants it. I remember growing up when we had that. And I believe there were PSAs on television, public service announcements, that actually would... Maybe it was Fire Prevention Month or something like that.

2:24:58 And you would have a family meeting and you discuss your way out, you discuss what happened, how you would wake everybody up if you could, if you couldn't. And I remember we had little fire extinguishers on every floor, every room, because we lived in...most Americans live in fire traps. If you ever did in Austin, they're building so many new houses and condos. It's just wood. Well, this is a very strange phenomenon for someone who comes from Europe where we build stuff mainly out of stone and brick and in America it's wood and wool. Well, we can't do anything but wood in California. Because? Earthquakes. Ah, right. You got a point there. But in Austin we don't have earthquakes. It's just cheap. No, you don't. It's just cheap shit. It's cheap.

2:25:48 Yeah, I would expect to see more brick and stone houses in Texas then. Well, there's a lot of faux stone, like fake slate. The architecture is not so great in Texas. Yeah. And also, this is also... There's a lot of big mansions in Texas, which are annoying. Yeah. Particularly up north, north from Austin, you've got Steiner Ranch. Yeah. It's massive, massive collections with a big fence around it, a big gate so we can keep them in, the people from California who come. Keep them in. Yeah. Okay. I have a clip here because we talk about this once in a while and I've made certain that the statements about

CHAPTER 39 / 40 Discussion

Saudi Oil Strategy, Petrochemical Infrastructure

Saudi Arabia's strategy of maintaining high oil production despite falling prices is analyzed as an attempt to drive U.S. shale and "tight oil" producers out of the market. Additionally, the kingdom is reportedly diversifying into large-scale chemical manufacturing and storage, leveraging its existing petroleum infrastructure to compete in the global petrochemical sector.

saudi arabia· oil prices· dow chemical· fracking· shale oil

2:26:34 how much you could, how cheap you could actually, how oil can be like 20 bucks a barrel, which is historically, there hovers around 25, which is still way down from where it is. And how Saudi Arabia could keep doing it, keep pumping oil and making money. This actually kind of verifies a little of this, the Saudi oil production on Russia today, where they're claiming in this clip that the reason that the Saudis are continuing to pump is not what my assertion was based on some other clips, which is that Saudi Arabia didn't want to lose market share like what happened to them in the 70s. So they're just going to keep pumping no matter what. The Russians are trying to goad somebody into thinking that it's because they hate us in Saudi Arabia.

2:27:23 and they're just doing it to screw our frackers. The Saudi Arabian minister of petroleum and mineral resources who said that they could still function normally their economy for up to eight years even if oil was at $20 per barrel. Well that's a question to understand whether it's profitable for them to bring the oil out of the ground or balance their budget. The two are different factors. Some say that the huge Gawar oil fields in the east of Saudi Arabia can be profitable at $10 a barrel. If they cut their production and oil prices rise even further, those jobs in the United States are just going to flow back

2:28:02 to the tight oil production. So in these new conditions, would it make sense for Saudi Arabia to actually keep the oil prices where they are right now? If they can keep it at $60 a barrel, they can take offline a lot of the tight oil production in the United States. Okay. Quite clipped out the way I'd hoped. But they say, you know, I think shale oil is 70 bucks, needs to be at least. I overheard a conversation on the way over in the plane, guy from Dow Chemical who was on his way to Saudi Arabia and

2:28:43 Apparently, it's almost like some hedge or diversification thing. They're going really big in chemical manufacturing, storage, transport, which I guess kind of makes sense, isn't it? It's just another...in many cases, I guess with Dow, it's liquid stuff, isn't it? So you can just use similar infrastructure or people who know how to operate. They're always sending guys over there. Does Dow do petrochemicals? I don't know if they're gonna build any chemical facilities, but most of the, usually around a refinery like here in the Bay Area, we have a couple, three, four of them, we have four refineries. And usually nearby there's a, right next to the refinery there's like one of them, the standard oil refinery, I don't know who owns it now, but it was Union Carbide for a while and that was,

2:29:31 using certain flows from the refinery, because petrochemicals are like a big moneymaker. They made petrochemicals. And then there was a fertilizer plant nearby, and they made fertilizer, because you make a lot of...from oil, you get fertilizer. And then there was another third plant that was making fungicide. that was illegal to use in the United States, but it was one of the most popular fungicides. I can't remember the dipholetan, I think was the name, that they were manufacturing, Stinks, manufacturing there. And this sort of, you know, oil refineries just don't make gasoline and motor oil. They make all these other things. It's a very, paint comes from oil.

CHAPTER 40 / 40 Discussion

Ammonium Nitrate, Childhood Vandalism Anecdotes

The episode concludes with anecdotes about the historical availability of ammonium nitrate fertilizer and its use in childhood pranks, such as creating "flash paper" or writing messages on lawns. The hosts sign off from Rotterdam and Northern Silicon Valley, previewing a "boots on the ground" report from the Netherlands for the following show.

ammonium nitrate· fertilizer· flash paper· rotterdam· outro

2:30:16 But the dipholetan stuff, I used to always go there and inspect the place and always get some. The stuff is dynamite. Because... You know, one of the things I grabbed once and I left it at the house one time. Today, in today's world, I would have been arrested. So I'm over at their fertilizer plant. And I said I need I want to get some fertilizer. Yeah a bag of fertilizer. Yeah, I wish definitely a hair bleach No, you will just give you a bag and it was sixteen zero zero something was it was a giant hundred pound bag of pure ammonium nitrate

2:30:56 I mean, this is illegal to even have a bag of this stuff. So I had a whole bag of it. And what the idea was is that this stuff is so powerful as a fertilizer, not to mention the fact you could mix it with things and they'd blow up. Yeah, like peroxide. I'd be one of them. So you take a handful of this stuff and you find some, some, some like a big public thing. Isn't this the stuff that blew up that whole Texas town? Wasn't that the same stuff you had? And you just dribble it around and you can spell stuff. Oh, nice. Now, nowadays I'd spell no read, you know, or listen to no agenda or no agenda show. Dot com or a fist bump emoji. You sorry. And you spell stuff out and then it would just go nuts. This stuff would it would turn bright green and grow like like a foot. We know we used to do when we live south of Amsterdam on the farm of vandalism. By the way, I apologize for this.

2:31:51 We would take the ammonium nitrate, or just fertilizer, I don't know what it was, I knew it was fertilizer, and then we'd take sugar, and I think we'd... I think we then just put it in a solution. We wetted down a solution of water, I believe, if I remember correctly, and then we'd put a piece of paper in it, each individual piece of paper, and then let them dry. And then you could fold the paper into four and you had little, you know, little four quarters. And then you could go... I went to school, my God, the shit we used to do, man, I would have been in juvie. We went to school, and then you just light it and go It was like a magician's flash paper. Yeah, it's like flash paper. Yeah. Yeah, that was cool Yeah, you can't do that anymore No, no you terrorist Well, I mean if I had a hundred pound sack of ammonium nitrate what eventually happened to the sack is the basement where I kept the sack of ammonium nitrate Yeah, I never used it really for much. I don't know why except for writing stuff on people's lawn Yeah, but that you know got old fast

2:32:54 And I'd throw some of it in the backyard once in a while for the plants. But eventually the cellar flooded and the ammonium nitrate turned into one giant... Ball of goo? Hard... The sack was hard as a rock because it got wet. But anyway, you can't even get that stuff anymore. Alrighty then. I think I'm done for now. Alright. I have to go get low- Well, it's- you know, we're back on track. We're there. Late. Yeah, it is getting late. Although, the time difference, I think right now it is 7 euros and 43 cents. I'm very confused about everything going on in Europe. However, I will have things to report on Thursday. I'll be roaming around. I'm going to several different locations in the lowlands. So I promise to- Ask the people what they think. We'll ask them what they think, and I'll ask them what they're afraid of, and...

2:33:58 We'll bring that report to you on Thursday. Coming to you from Rotterdam here in the Lowlands. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're celebrating International Woman's Day, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Thursday, right here on No Agenda. Can somebody explain to me why the CIA is spying on American allies? Well, Ray, there were these things called dinosaurs, and when they died, they turned into oil somehow, and that's what your car uses for food. Thanks, Al. Al? Jazira. The best podcast in the universe! Change the world! Let's do it!

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