Citadels of Censorship

00:00 So they call him Ash. Mm-hmm, the big Ash. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah It's Sunday February 22nd 2015 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 698 This is no agenda Day 7 of TRIPS disease here in the Crackpot Condo live from FEMA Region 6 in Austin, Texas. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and it's still Chinese New Year here in Northern Silicon Valley where I am retweeting...I'm John C. Dvorak Oh man What? I'm still sick Yeah well that's what happens when you get that thing Oh man As we say in Texas no bueno

00:45 No way home exactly there at the house now. No way no if the B is silent no way, you know I'm trying to work it out good. Yeah working on my Spanish You better be yeah, I only have one One my daughter's got this whatever ailment too with the cough not so much to cough as mostly I don't know what it is It's just kind of a malaise. And, of course we also now have the height of the allergy season here in Austin. Oh! The double whammy for you. Ohm. Elm? You mention about this every year, you know that? Yeah I know It affects me! Yeah it affects me yeah oh sorry... You don't even know- he transitions from the flu to this and what you can't even say seamless. I know it's uh yeah you have to think is like what do I have allergies or flu or what is it

01:41 No, it's bad. And mold is the worst of it but I looked at the chart today and could actually say that it was off the chart. The lines went off the chart! For mold? Yeah for mold and for oak and for elm and for uh no Cedar is low. We will see there's the one that really gets to you isn't it no no mold mold is mold. Yeah, well molding I think affects everyone yeah But I think the elm and oak but you were in a moldy house before this yes Yes, but enough about my ex-wives Here you hear it There he goes All right like that did try to get out yesterday just to get out went to Green Texas

02:29 Green? Yes. Which is a town named green well it's spelled uh... uh... green g-r wait a minute, G-R-E-N yeah, Gruen but you say green. That's another German town? It's historic Gruen, well Greentexas we don't say gruene. Its historic Green Texas and this is pretty much And they have like one of the oldest dance halls and you know it was another one of these old time cities in Texas that people apparently motorcycle gangs go to.

03:07 I felt a little out of place. Oh, there was a motorcycle event? No! It's just... There is this big biker bar and it's just-I think is probably the weekend warriors you know the guys are dentists and surgeons or whatever. Yeah you should go in there and call them out. Oh yeah hey who's a pussy here?! Hey ya big phony! Yeah I should try that. It was actually quite cool although I learned uh I received a lesson in Texas driving Oh, somebody cut you off? No I wasn't driving. Who were you out with? Nurse Tracy was driving. She's never been to Gruen either? Yeah it was her idea. Okay she's trying to turn you into a Texan! Well check this out...

03:55 So and I'm sick, you know some way back. Yeah, give you a couple of shots or something Morphine something anything? I've sworn to secrecy and So my kind of dozing off like, you know have this weird sensation like we're going very fast And we're breaking a lot and going fast. I open my eyes... But she's a lead foot! Oh man, no it's worse She said this is how we drive in Texas If i'm in the left lane and i'm coming up behind somebody they have to move out of the way I'm like okay Sounds like the Autobahn at Deutschland In fact she mentioned the Autobahn a couple times but you know its okay We'll get there No this is how we drive in Texas You don't understand Okay Man

04:44 I was unawares. Well, now you know. Yeah. Apparently that's how we do it here in Texas. Do whatever you want next time i'm bringing a piece just in case oh yeah lead foot women yeah exactly that's exactly it damn men Really what it was I don't know surprising to me just surprised. It's always a surprise when you run into one of those yeah Hey big, dude is killed and I didn't say that I didn't say any of that. I was just wary you know Kind of Big news John there's a new ISO video

05:33 And they had this is there's something new, something new has happened. They now have... I swallowed my tea down my throat lungs. They now have Mike flags with their Caliphate logo Wow! Yeah, I knew you would think it was big news. That is big news. Here's our problem Abdul. Branding... It's branding we need mic flags for those of you who don't know what a mic flag is It's a little cube that fits right underneath the head of the microphone that has your corporate logo on it. Yeah, like CBS yeah, except in this case It's ISIS or ISIL or its a little you know the little Raiders logo that little flag. Yeah thingy in the middle of the flag is so they have Like 20

06:27 It looks like 20 new hostages in cages with no bottom, smaller cages now. Which I guess they're going to burn them or whatever and then they have a guy who's their roving reporter and he's got a little Mike flag with ISIS on it so they're stepping up. Well they'll have their own network pretty soon! Now let's since we're on that topic right off the bat. Let's start off with this I was thinking about all this Because of that clip you had maybe can dig it up to when you ran last show Where are they? The guys came out and said well, you know these ISIS things a creation of the CIA in Mossad Oh You want you mean the president of Sudan yeah? That's who exactly you could play that for a second because it's short enough here It is this what triggered my thinking and then following clip that was

07:21 Well, gee you'd think I... hmm. Was that the last? Jesus forgets. Yeah it is okay well let me just oh yeah sorry here we go now you're gonna have to move on i can't find it now for some reason all right well you remember that was a guy came out and said he's the president of Sudan he says President of Sudan he said he's in the know so I'm listening to the big thing going on right now and talk radio is the discussion over and the right wingers are all over this over Obama's refusing to call it Islamic extremism. And he calls it violent extremism and he just continues to do that, and they had this big meeting this extremist meeting where even the FBI guy wasn't there but they had all these crazy people. I want to play a couple of clips from The NewsHour including this one which is Islamic versus extremist terminology

08:13 So David, let's start with this summit the White House held on confronting they called it confronting violent extremism looking at how do you prevent terrorist acts from happening in the first place local communities. The criticism the White House got was their bending over backwards they're going out of their way not to use the term Islamic extremism what are you what are you making? Well are we allowed to call the Islamic State Islamic I mean they aren't I mean in some sense it's a stupid debate because is the true Islam as a perverted Islam? The fact is religion is all interpretation God doesn't come down here and tell us exactly what he means we have interpretations within Christianity within Judaism with an Islam And if you call yourself a Muslim, you're a Muslim and they have different interpretations but it's all

08:57 interpretation. So one is a perverted or sick form of Islam, a lot of people fortunately have much more peaceful forms of Islam but it's all an interpretation of faith so what's the real one? It's all matter of interpretation I think they should probably call it Islamic extremism, it is Islamic extremism The second and more important issue is how we diagnose the problem And there are three elements to this sort of terrorism as we just saw in that segment about that Egyptian young man First, there's economic and political dysfunction. So that young man wanted to be a personal trainer and he couldn't so he was alienated from that marginalized from society but second there is spiritual ardor A guy wants to be hero The guy wants to seen as strong in a hero like that young man And third there is theological conviction Islamic state has theology to it real substantive theology Who is that David Brooks?

09:48 Yeah, now I got another one from him which actually says W-A-T-F Shields but it's actually Brooks. I want to play it after I make a little commentary here which is the reason potentially with it in mind that the ISIS operation according to the... Do you want? I have that clip if you want it Oh, okay. Play this clip. The president of Sudan has warned that the fight against jihadist extremism must engage militants on an ideological level and not solely concentrate on military action against them Omar al-Bashir warned that simply using violence against young radicals who fight with organizations like ISIL and Al Qaeda could lead to even more extremism He says the CIA and Mossad are behind Boko Haram and ISIL

10:34 I haven't heard from him since, by the way. He's very quiet around here. Now with that in mind is it possible that Obama's real reason for not going on with Islamic extremism as the moniker is because he knows all this is true and he can't really...He doesn't feel like lying about that one thing and having it thrown at his face someday? So just violent extremism, just the generality worldwide. It's got nothing to do with anything. Lying about what one thing? I don't quite understand what you're saying. Well if he starts calling the ISIL group Islamic extremists and all the rest that was set up by the CIA... Right He'd have that thrown in his face someday and it will hurt his long-term reputation so he just wants to be honest

11:17 I'm sorry, it's a long story. This is the first? It's the only excuse i can think of he could call whatever he wants but meanwhile that him and Brooks and Shields keep going back and forth on The News Hour neither one of them saying much in fact it becomes kind of borderline nonsense they keep calling this group perverted and pervert you know and all the rest of it. They're pornographers? And this little kicker at the end of the whole thing is an eye roller. See if you can tell me why. Their souls are involved and I'm saying you have to conceive of them as moving, acting in a religious way And you have to have religious alternatives They're driven by an end times ideology they think there's going to be some cataclysmic battle and Mohammed will come down If you ignore that part or write it off as sort of marginal that they're being produced by economic dysfunction I just think your missing the main deal

12:10 When in the history of the entire religion of Islam... Does Muhammad come down? Is Muhammad coming down?! Coming down from the mountain maybe! What is that? It's just a Christian projection. I mean we have, you know, The Return Of Christ Easter We have the return of Christ, but there's no discussion of the return of Mohammed which again is a Christian projection. I kind of like that! Get this! It should be something like... You're ready to spin the wheel! So this is, these are the commentators of the news hour going on with Muhammad coming down. Okay I'm all in. I'm closing the book on these guys This isn't just a right-wing conversation...I picked up a couple of actually the anti-semitic angle to this

13:10 Which boy, the Prime Minister of France he ranted in... what is it? Do they have parliament? I guess it's parliament. I don't know that much about it actually. Is it parliament in France? And he was just ranting and going on and on saying this is crazy, if they're killing Jews this can't be France. It was very clear the French government believes that the attacks were against Jews which of course also our administration Obama is just not agreeing with what do you call it? He called a random attack or something so there's a lot of strange things

13:52 And it seems like the leftist media... Let's play one of my favorites. I don't often resort to her. Oh no! Oh yeah, I have to do it You don't often you too often that's good. You should change the wording to too often Rachel Maddow had on Actually know I'm going to start with John Kerry. I know, I got two in a row! Gee! I know, I know! You're killing me! I think I found some stuff that you can actually handle but i'm hearing similar wording as this is what we're trained to do across the political landscape and the media landscape here is Watermelon Head Kerry

14:40 And he's telling us here in this little spiel what motivates these terror recruits who then ultimately go join ISIS. Which, and this is in Europe certainly the messaging your children are going to join it's unavoidable you know if it isn't the Nutella and the kittens and emojis It's just unavoidable that your kids are going to join but listen to this Why do people make to what too many of us And by the way, I think he wrote this one himself again. Why do people make to what? Well he wrote it himself. That's what he said! I know! Why do people make too...what many of us. Yes. Why do people make too.. What-What-What to many of us. Why did people make to what any of us? What your problem?! Do you... What... Would seem to be an utterly wrongheaded choice. Wrong headed. And become a kind of terrorist that we're seeing It's a question that we need to approach with humility

15:38 But also with determination. Because you cannot defeat what you don't understand." This is some classic stuff here. Is he talking about terrorism or Hillary Clinton? I'll give you an in the morning for that one. I love, You cannot defeat what you do not understand. Okay? Certainly there is no single answer In our era, poisonous ideas can come from almost anywhere. Where could poisonous ideas come from John? I don't know the poison bottle...I have no idea From parents, teachers and friends Preachers Politicians From the pretty woman on a radical website

16:22 Oh, hey! Are you telling us too much? The pretty woman. The pretty woman on the terrorist website Hey babe Come here my pretty I'm the pretty woman on the terrorist website You will commit jihad... Ideas can come from almost anywhere From parents Teachers Friends Preachers Politicians From the pretty woman on a radical website who lures people or the man in the next bitch Politicians like he got suckered by some woman on a terrorist weapon. He's still pissed about it, and he's mad You thought it was you know like a webcam from real thing yeah? The pretty woman

17:09 radical website who lures people or the man in the next cell who proselytizes while in prison. They might grow from pictures seen on the nightly news, or from acts of discrimination or repression that you don't think much about on the day of occurrence but which come back to haunt." This guy sounds like we're just screwed there's no escaping it! This guy is crazy It could come from the... Can you imagine if he was elected president? Uh, it would be fun for the show. Dynamite! Dynamite for the show No it wouldn't because he's still too verbose You just happen to have a segment of probably a two hour speech I actually cut that down To haunt They could come from the desire to avenge the death of a loved one Yes In some cases they may come from a lost job

18:02 Or from the contrast between one family's empty dinner plate and a fancy restaurant. You know, it could come from a lost job It could come from slipping on a banana peel. Could come from stubbed toe Yeah! It could come from walking down the street and then kicking a rock and hurting your foot I think- It could come for somebody driving by and throwing a piece of paper at you How long does he go on with this? Is this guy crazy?! Yeah, lavish menu the lavish menu The poison might even come from within Oh in the form of rebellion against anonymity. Yeah the desire to belong to a group Yes, the rebellion is what anonymity? What was there what? If you're introverted if you're a nerd if you feel locked up if you have a red stapler and against anonymity

18:55 the desire to belong to a... Chat room. A piece of undigested liver! Yes, yeah there's a lot more. Yeah? Go on. People who want a moment of visibility and identity or the hunger for black and white answers to problems that are very complex I have got a hunger for some black-and-white answers Does this guy just go on and on?! He is almost done My god! I love him though it's this it's so Insane? This is an insane person. Yes, yeah he's insane In a remarkably more complicated world There has been a silly debate in the media in the last days about what you have to do You have to everything What? I don't know what he's talking about The battlefield who are there today But your kind of stupid if all you do is that and you don't prevent more people from going to the battlefield Ah yes

19:52 So, we have a broad challenge here. Thanks, Conan. Good job! They're coming for us... On Bill Marshall this continued now beginning to the Jew... You are on a left-wing kick for this week? I've seen what the right is doing it's just interesting that it's all about Jews versus Arabs Muslims I'm sorry I should say properly and on Bill Marshall we had Rob Reiner

20:37 Oh brother. Always good for a laugh, Rob Reiner We had Elhae Izadi I think her name is now this is an interesting woman she's a journalist and stand-up comic which isn't it the same thing? It is nowadays yes exactly Elae Izadi wasn't familiar with her she was DC based journalist This is from her own website, she doesn't have a wiki page. With experience covering politics and demographics she currently writes for the Washington Post so you'd think she would know what she's talking about She's about to propagate some pretty big questionable truths And also on the show

21:23 It couldn't get any better. Bill Nye, the climate guy? Oh no! Well this was a show I wouldn't be able to watch Speaking of which you know what about this anti-semitism that's going on in Europe yeah it's By the way they don't care what their elected president is saying uh-uh it's just anti-semitism done now listen to Rob Reiner... It's never gone away That's the thing it's all really you know thousands and thousands of years we've had anti-semitism It comes back. We had it, you know during the obviously during the second world war and then all of a sudden we have Germany emerging very liberal and all that but this undercurrent of anti-semitism has always been there just like racism Yeah, it's always there And then it just bubbles up to the surface every once in a while I mean horrible now Netanyahu is asking European Jews to come to Israel In come home to Israel

22:20 That's what he said, right? Yeah. Well I mean... But the people have never been there! They grew up in whatever Germany or France It is a shame that they should have to move Well they probably won't either because it is not their home No but you could understand Now listen to Reiner He pulls out his almost like a Jente here when he does this one which I've heard people say just like this But you can understand it There were German Jews who lived in Germany during the Second World War and that was their home. Look where it got them! And you know, at a certain point if your life is in danger you want to go some place where you're going to be protected So what do you do about it? This is pretty extreme stuff What Rob Reiner's saying here Is that it is about to get as bad as World War II Where Jews are going to be exterminated In a massive holocaust And well... You better be safe than sorry Might as well move to the desert

23:14 That's what he is saying. Yeah, no that is exactly what he is saying You said yeah or no? I did and heard it that time. I think you get to know your neighbors. Does this take a century? What the hell... He said you got to get to know your neighbors And the Dutch are still waiting for their bikes to be returned. Who was that? The science guy Bill Nye. Moron. Is in danger do you want to go some place where you can be protected So what do you do about it I think you get to know your neighbors. That's it, is gonna take... does it take a century? Something like that? What?! He's insane! You gotta get to know your neighbors don't fight with your neighbors. It takes a century to know your neighborhoods? Hey, I hate to break it but very few people live that long now and they're very seldom in the same neighborhood if its going to take 100 years then you'r not gonna know your neighbors Now listen to the journalist slash comedian from The Washington Post uh... I take offense to

24:13 This is another one of these statements, or actually just has a number of statements that's very much like Russia was aggressive towards Georgia. What are all these big lies we have John? The big ones Oh, that the My Don situation wasn't run by the Americans? Yeah. Just all these things they just stated as facts... We should have a list in front of us. We should actually. Well here she's going to do a number of them factually untrue. I mean this is a big problem in Europe you're also seeing the rise of a lot of right-wing populist political parties and Okay so far so good You can call it right wing populous party fine okay but what do think she'll associate with that

24:54 Many of these countries and they also have in addition to having anti-semitic tints to them They're also very anti immigrant and have a lot of nasty rhetoric about Muslims as well. Yeah, nasty rhetoric And yeah the Nazis did Nazis antisemitic really hip Yeah, you kid feared builders. Although he did the Jews support him but okay It's whatever you want Washington attention to that piece of fact Washington Post lady So this is kind of a confluence of factors You had last year 7000 Jews leaving France to Israel But you also have been seeing a lot of Jews leaving Israel to go move to Berlin so there's a lot of migration happening throughout the region and to your point yeah, a lot of European Jewish leaders this week have been saying in response to those comments that

25:40 Europe is our home and this is the culture we help build. And the leaders are expressing, the leaders of those countries are expressing support but what is the next step? How are they going to combat this in their countries?" Yeah okay well I think she should go take a little tour of Europe and see what's really going on Now I go to Maddow, and she has on an American-born Brooklyn born woman who is Muslim Linda Sarsour of the National Network for Arab American Communities And so she's sitting there, she's wearing a hijab. So that covers her hair and her neck and face is pretty face I love these. Actually what you're describing is not the hijab but go on...I think it is the hijab. I actually looked it up to make sure I was going to say it right What do you think? It is I thought that the hijab actually had partial coverage of the body

26:36 No, that is the niqab. The Ni... Oh and it's also the burka I'm thinking of. But the Burkha but the niqab you see the eyes the burqa the eyes are shielded And yeah, okay. You're right you're right you're right I actually put it in the show notes because i didn't want to sound stupid by not knowing what the hell well There's a bunch of things that there's also that little thing goes around the head The guys wear let's call he got a name everything's got a name Okay she's wearing a hijab which is like hello look at me Like these jobs I've never had someone that looks attractive attractive yeah all right so and Listen to us covers the face

27:14 The one that covers the face except for the eyes? Yeah, except for the eyes. Is the Hecob Okay and what's the one that covers the face AND the eyes That's the Berka The burka is basically just a burlap sack over your chick's head, the whole body. Just tie rope around her neck. Somehow you get this... You can see through the barely- There is a little yeah Our government operates massive surveillance program unwarranted surveillance in Muslim communities Chilling free speech making people feel afraid I mean a lot of Muslims have come to the United States To get away from regimes where they feel like their freedom of speech is infringed on Where some people don't have freedom of religion We come to the US

27:54 22 states with anti Sharia bills trying to ban us from practicing our faith mosque oppositions were fighting boards You know zoning boards across the country. Hold on a second Some states with what? Anti-what?" I know. I was waiting to see if you would catch it, a couple of things there's a couple of... She rips into this thing so quickly that you can't hear what she said Yeah there are a couple of things that are pretty outrageous that she says that Maddow does not challenge. I'll back it up a bit What she is saying for Muslims in America That this is horrible because It's kind of like World War II Get ready with the internment camps for the Japanese

28:33 That's her point and I'm sure there is a lot of truth to this. I wanted you to back it up and play that again, she says anti-suchins...anti what laws? Sharia. Anti-Sharia laws? Duh! It gets better. And Madhouse says nothing?! outrageous. 22 states with anti-Sharia bills trying to ban us from practicing our faith. Okay, 22 states with anti-Sharia bills which she equates to stopping them from practicing their faith but it's a little different than that but wait... It is totally different. But wait... Mosque oppositions were fighting zoning boards across the country You can't build your mosques Who isn't?

29:33 Our kids are hearing this rhetoric. We have people, mosques being vandalized, kids being executed, Islamophobia... Wait a minute! I'm sorry? Kids being executed?! I missed the kids being executed news What state is that taking place in And Maddox has nothing. Maddox says nothing, she says kids are being executed in the United States because they're Muslim and she just sits there silently? No but she has her little code at the end there which we heard Rob Reiner say that's why I wanted to play this piece. To ban us from practicing our faith mosque oppositions were fighting you know zoning boards across the country our kids aren't hearing this rhetoric we have people mosques being vandalized

30:11 kids being executed, Islamophobia. Leaders on national television saying that the holy wars and these people want to take over America I mean it's just it doesn't for me reflect what we do stand for as a country and these very minority in our country who has are the loudest voices are reflecting what we are and thats not how we are is a country. I'm American and I am Muslim should cut myself in half? What side I'm born in Brooklyn. This is also some kind of code this cut myself in half thing, I'm not quite sure what that is but it returns as well. I can't take that away and no one can take that away from me. I can't be deported anywhere so its just a really hard conversation to have with young people especially young Muslims who don't know what side they're supposed to be on. I'm on the American side, I'm on the right side, I'm on the side of justice thats the only sides that im on And you cant spoil yourself and have to do that

30:56 And you shouldn't have to. And there is a big difference between talking about our values and living them I think what's happening domestically around issues about bigotry right now is spooky It's not like it hasn't existed before but the way its bubbling up right now and being mainstreamed right now, I am... See she doing the same thing that Reiner's doing this bubbling-up thing Like it's always there but it bubbles up I'm not sure. First of all, I don't think it's true." Well you know this could be milieu related and not really anything because you know...I mean their talking points are derivatives. You hang around the same people, there is a group down in Texas that you meet with them. Anyway, you hang around the same people and they're talking points emerge. And i think a lot of them emerge from this

31:43 CVE, the countering violent extremism woodstock that was thrown together. Just here is Orin Seagal, I guess from the Anti-Defamation League's extremism center speaking. I had to go back and really...because this thing was thrown together hastily and... Well that's an interesting point because people have all noted this but nobody has come up with any explanation for the hasty throw-together. Well, what I'm finding is there's a lot of... well there's a lot of this and talk about some facts that are just being thrown out there In the Jewish community we uh...the concept of violent extremism is not abstract it's very real. And so at ADL you know domestically but also internationally when were trying to deal with mitigate this threat of violent extremism

32:41 uh... we don't have the luxury uh... frankly to focus on one extremist movement over another and so you know this discussion today and in in the coming days and for a while uh... it's really imperative for us to know based on our research base from the trends that were saying and frankly based on the threat not just of the jewish community but entire american community violent extremism is not a muslim community problem it's an american problem Okay, it's now wait. It's also a problem that's international That's where ADL steps in because of our research and so if we take for example the threat of white Supremacists and right-wing extremists and look at the amount of murders in this country in the past say 10 years 95% of murders against Americans and that includes law enforcement have been caused at the hands of right wing extremists okay

33:35 Okay, then. 95% of all murders in the United States? He threw that out there? Including against law enforcement right-wing extremists! Mm-hmm holy mackerel and he got away with that oh yeah oh yeah I know, that's crazy. Most murders are domestic violent murders. People kill their spouse or black on black murders and random murders. 95% of all murders in the United States are caused by right-wing extremists. Can we hear it again? Holy...I can't believe this guy got away with saying that and nobody except you called him out on this!

34:22 But this is the Anti-Defamation League's extremism center... The guy in charge of the extremism center. If you have that kind of bias, pfft! Oh yeah, I assure you it's useless It's kind of weird when he's actually in the Anti-Defamation League yet he's defaming other people. Hmm Okay. Threat of white supremacists and right-wing extremists, and look at the amount of murders in this country in the past say 10 years 95% of murders against Americans and that includes law enforcement have been caused at the hands of right wing extremists Caused at the hands of? It's even better than that. Caused at the hands of right wing extremist We have to remember that fact when we're coming up with strategies Remember that fact people

35:12 Remember that fact. So you make up some fact and tell people to remember it when we come up with strategies, and so the real problem here is the right wing...this is why he blamed a whole thing if go back to the beginning of the clip, he says this is not a problem with one group, this is a problem with America! The United States is causing this problem! Right-wing extremists? It's right-wing extremist in France That's bunched in with white supremacist, so you have the associative aspect to it Whitey. Yeah, yeah as Susan Rice luckily has the answer that twerp you know what I have to stop and give you a clip of the day for that sorry yeah well you should apologize because it was I agree with him. I mean there were sometimes you don't get clips of the day because i'm like knocked on my ass by something like that and and and you pull this right off c-span you know? It's televised!

36:11 Here's Susan Rice, who we affectionately call the twerp. It has nothing to do with their size but it doesn't help and she is going to tell us how you can solve this because if your kids are being radicalized who better? Who can stop this? So we'll work more closely with civil society and tap the talents of communities which might otherwise be left on the sidelines That includes, critically women and girls who are some of the most effective voices in countering violent extremism. Who is better?

36:51 than a mother to spot unusual behavior in her child and intervene. Around the world, the United States is supporting projects to train women to recognize the signs of recruitment and radicalization in their families and communities and to devise prevention strategies. whatever. Our kids, our kids are going to stab us in our sleep. People aren't buying any of this but they keep trying the best they can do I think the British are probably gonna be a little easier to train because of the three stories that i'm sorry the three girls story yes out there and I have two clips of this good good good I have one is the one from The International News has this one this is uh... This short one is the three girl's story developing hold on second yeah play this

37:56 Yeah, play that. British police are appealing for help to find three school girls thought to be on their way to join the fight in Syria The teenagers were seen at London's Gatwick Airport last week boarding a flight to Istanbul Turkish media is being used to try to contact the girls 600 British Muslims are thought to have traveled to Syria and some to fight alongside ISIL I was so we have three girls those three. So we know that this is a code right and now This is on every news outlet these three girls they have pictures of them and everything They got the pictures of math at the airport, I guess it couldn't stop but they got to picture all as a picture

38:36 And they're all going to Turkey and then they're gonna go on to Syria somehow. Now, they even play this on the local news and here's the local report which has the same wording at the very beginning of the story. A desperate appeal today from the families of three teenage girls believed to be trying to get to Syria to join Islamic State fighters. The girls are 15 year old into 16 year olds flew from Gatwick Airport in London to Istanbul on Tuesday. Today their families released statements calling for the girls to return home one family said they understood the girls were moved by the suffering of the Syrian people but they say they pray that trio will return before they get to Syria you know I watch all these reports and i listen what's being said and either it's totally bogus which I think it is or we have lost touch with our children

39:27 There's no contact whatsoever. There is absolutely just completely...we have no idea what they're doing." And they're hopping on airplanes. To the point where a 15-year old can get enough money to take a plane from England, and by the way I don't know why they have to keep mentioning Gatwick that's gotta be code there's no reason for this information There's no reason to tell us it was Gatwick. It is unnecessary detail, yet it's in every single story! So I don't know if that's a promotion for Gatwick Airport? I'm not sure but there's no reason for this...there are unnecessary details and a lot of these news stories you have to wonder why it's all the stories. Anyway so they got the money to fly to Turkey and then continue on into Syria where did this money come from for a 15 year old?! She hooking??

40:22 That would be a good follow-on story. Yeah, I think we could do another three part series if the girls are actually prostituting themselves to get money to go fight the jihad because of their feelings of empathy towards Assyrian people makes sense It just seems to me that this is the first question I'd ask and nobody's asked it. Do you want to hear the NBC expert? Oh, we have another one yes... They were known as normal teenagers good students but on Begum's Twitter account Sunday a message to a female ISIS member unknown recruiter asking for private conversation That's how it starts private conversation request via Twitter

41:03 All of that triggered Scotland Yard's unprecedented alert and it comes amid growing concerns that more and more young people are being enticed by ISIS. They're not the disaffected, they're not necessarily the unemployed youth instead we're seeing educated young women It's your children people be afraid who are engaged in politics And ISIS makes him think it offers something worth fighting for. I think the idea that you can give your life meaning by performing jihad and that's very exciting Listen to what she just said, she actually just propagandized She said i think the idea of giving your life for Jihad is very exciting? Yeah

41:46 And ISIS makes them think it offers something worth fighting for. I think the idea that you can give your life meaning by performing jihad, and that's very exciting Really? So, two things. One is that truly something the children think? Yeah after watching some guy get burned to death in a cage And two she actually said she didn't say or the way the piece was cut let me be fair about it She's actually saying...she's telling people oh you know it's uh to give your life for jihad It's quite exciting well thanks Experts say perhaps more than 300 women from across Europe have joined ISIS many of them from the UK

42:24 I need some video or photographic evidence at this point. There must be thousands of women and girls there eating Nutella, playing with their kittens... The story is that there's so much contradictory information either the women have become whores or forced into being wives Well the B-roll you see when they're doing this is you see girls or women in niqabs So that's the burka with this, with the open slit for the eyes. With AK-47s you know blasting away! That's the B roll. Yeah which is strange because in and I've actually commented on this before like over a year ago there was this woman that was jihad Jane or whatever and she had a gun she had the thing over everything but the eyes and like you said did he job with the slit? Niqab

43:21 And you got it. Yeah, I'll catch up to you and but then meanwhile the ISIS guys all claim that women should be in their place or not Shut up! They're chattel shut up get out of the way and let me beat you and rape you Well what I mean the messaging here is falling apart in every which way at least I think well as though the Western media with these stories is trying straighten out a flawed script. Well, it goes from the media right back to politics so now we're hearing about these children and they're educated they are involved in politics so this is your kid you think your kids smart? Ha! Your kid is up next I hate to do but gotta go back to the watermelon head The people that groups like Dash are recruiting can come from any country

44:15 They can be male or female. They can be any ethnicity, with or without spiritual convictions Last year two young men left Great Britain to join Daesh Among the books that they ordered before departing were Islam for Dummies The Quran for Dummies So let's being honest Those recruiting for Daesh are not looking for people who are devout and knowledgeable about the tenets of Islam They're looking for people who are gullible enough to believe that terrorists enjoy a glamorous lifestyle and pliable enough to do whatever they are told. And who are attracted by the perception of success." Oh, okay! Well... It's one way of culling the herd if you think about it in some meta sense

45:08 But, this is bull crap. And by the way there's no evidence... Do we have any evidence? Is there even a couple of books like that? Jihad for Dummies or what was it? Yeah I remember the news story and i think it does exist. I think there's Islam for Dummies What was the first one? There were two books One was E-Islam for Dummies The other one was something else for dummies The Quran for Dummies Oh yeah those exist Those are real I'm gonna find out while you talk. Okay, then i will pop out of this and go back to actually Josh Earnest so we had this big hoo-haw this big shin dig and by the way something very interesting is this new guy...I don't know if he's new but he seems to be doing a lot of questioning in the White House press briefings

46:01 I'm sorry, I failed to look up who he is. Someone maybe in the chat room will know and he's asking some pretty poignant questions of Josh Earnest which all...I would say almost seem at the scripted level. The question he asks is so why was the director of the FBI, James Comey not invited. Yeah this was a big deal on the right wing talk shows too so this guy's probably from Fox or something but what I liked about this is Comey's answer just let him play all the way out to the end how he actually explains what is going on with this you know with the violent extremism he this gush

46:46 verbal diarrhea comes out and it goes into just- I had to laugh, and every single time i hear the clip i gotta laugh at the end of what he thinks this is about. "-Coming back to the three day summit on combating violent extremism why was FBI director James Comey not invited to that summit? Well a couple reasons one is his boss was uh The Nation's top-" Woo! How do you like how would you like to be Comey right now? Wow! His boss was...his boss was invited That's a, that comeback is...that is a I hate to use the word. That is a chicken shit answer It's poor form too. I mean Comey is not a he's he's uh forced to be reckoned with you know HSBC He's part of the big yeah, it's part of the banking scandal Yeah, if you want to be careful around these guys don't get in the hot tub Ernest Why was FBI director James Comey not invited to that summit?

47:44 Well, a couple of reasons. One is his boss was the nation's top law enforcement official Attorney General Eric Holder attended The second is we also have local law enforcement officials from across the country who could talk about their own experience in working with community leaders to counter violent extremism in their communities And the third is you know there was not but we wanted to make sure that A couple of reasons, it doesn't include a third by the way just to point that out. He said a couple of reasons now he's on the number three well he's also really struggling to explain this one away as you'll hear there wasn't

48:25 that there was a perception that this conference was overly focused on law enforcement tactics. Now he's going to tell us about this conference. Certainly, law enforcement is a very important role to play and it's why we have the nation's top law enforcement official in attendance That's why we had police chiefs and other law enforcement officials from communities across the country in attendance but the focus here is on the broader set of tools that are available to communities all across the country uh...to protect vulnerable people who could be susceptible violent extremist ideology that's propagated on social media. Let me just play that last 15 seconds back. He's saying the whole focus of this thing was to get people tuned into and understanding how vulnerable people are being duped, I'm paraphrasing... DUPED! ...duped into violent extremism propagated via social media This was pretty much a

49:26 like a South by Southwest conference or something. We're all just talking about Twitter and listen to him again, but the focus here is on the broader set of tools that broader set of tools I should write this down. We're going to want to remember this a broader set of tools now what could have brought her set of tools be it could only be social media things? I presume well, I think it Listen to it again. I think tools in this case actually refers to people not in the negative sense of tool Because there is some other reports that came out or all around this thing showing that oh now we're gonna have all these like hundreds of counterintelligence Twitters okay, you see this report no wait No what? Yes, they're gonna have a counter intelligence tweeter two people that are go on Twitter and All they do is post all day

50:22 in response to other people. They say, oh no you're full of crap! You're gonna get killed if you go to this jihad. When did this... Oh um This was on a couple reports I didn't bother... I see it here. I see tweeter on Twitter top US spy agency creates hmmm This is an older report though It's like from December There was something that was recent. Let me write this down, so you have a broader set of tools... ...the country in attendance but the focus here is on the broader set of tools that are available to communities all across the country That are available to communities all across the country Okay well this is different then because if it's available to communities what does that even mean? Well and that's why I'm writing it down Communities All Across The Country okay

51:07 to protect vulnerable people who... To protect the dummies. Get that straight. Vulnerable people By the way, I did look up there is a Dummies book for all these things and I realize that now on a watch list Oh yeah! Congratulations Could be susceptible susceptible what's susceptible does that mean you're dumb and your gullible or yeah gullible and dumb okay violent extremist ideology to violence chase extremist

51:47 Ideology propagated on social media, which is propagating a social media. The whole thing falls apart when he ends it by if people are going to be Inspired to kill two bombs to blow crap up to burn guys alive guys alive Then you then I'm then aren't you got my attention? But then it's like at the end yeah on social media Oh, it was just on social media well. I got an idea don't look at Twitter problem solved Or, let's make Twitter illegal. This is a long-term run at the social media attempt to... this will be a long term run at invading Facebook in such a way that you can censor it. Why bother? It's working out fine! Everything is great and everyone is afraid. It's perfect. There is that.

52:40 There's one more piece here to this. This guy didn't let up and Comey made this gaffe again, which I thought was pretty funny But Josh in terms of combating violence we try that again in terms of combatting violent extremism It's countering violent extremists. Okay, but oh, I'm sorry Huh? Oh, this is interesting. This is quite interesting that he wants this terminology... It's countering! ...not combating. It's countering? What is the difference...? Countering. That's the room full of Twitterers. They're countering they're not necessarily combatting but let's take a look we got to look at the definitions of these two because there are some reasons Here it is here it is A verb speak or act in opposition to

51:47 Ideology propagated on social media, which is propagating a social media. The whole thing falls apart when he ends it by if people are going to be Inspired to kill two bombs to blow crap up to burn guys alive guys alive Then you then I'm then aren't you got my attention? But then it's like at the end yeah on social media Oh, it was just on social media well. I got an idea don't look at Twitter problem solved Or, let's make Twitter illegal. This is a long-term run at the social media attempt to... this will be a long term run at invading Facebook in such a way that you can censor it. Why bother? It's working out fine! Everything is great and everyone is afraid. It's perfect. There is that.

52:40 There's one more piece here to this. This guy didn't let up and Comey made this gaffe again, which I thought was pretty funny But Josh in terms of combating violence we try that again in terms of combatting violent extremism It's countering violent extremists. Okay, but oh, I'm sorry Huh? Oh, this is interesting. This is quite interesting that he wants this terminology... It's countering! ...not combating. It's countering? What is the difference...? Countering. That's the room full of Twitterers. They're countering they're not necessarily combatting but let's take a look we got to look at the definitions of these two because there are some reasons Here it is here it is A verb speak or act in opposition to

53:21 That's tweeting, to counter. That's tweeting? Yes, tweeting! And combating is fighting physically? It's fighting, physically fighting. Huh... and he's very clear to point this out to this guy. Excuse me hold on a second just so you know we're not combatting were countering it's like a paré. But Josh in terms of combatting violence let me try that again in terms of combating violence- It's funny he also starts his question over But Josh, in terms of combating violence... Let me try that again. In terms of combatting violent extremism? It's almost like he flubbed the line and said let me try that again. Yeah well you said in terms of combating violence and when he said that he had to realize he wanted to say violent extremism which is reiterating the president's terminology as though he had a script so the idea from my perspective

54:13 The media is told to use this term. And he screws it up, instead of saying countering he says combating and he gets called out on it! He's going into the doghouse for this screw-up. But Josh in terms of combatting violence... let me try that again In terms of combatting violent extremism It's countering violent extremism So in terms of the countering violent extremism got it Nailed it nailed it killed it after number three the guy called Josh should have just said there you go nailed it good job son violent extremism

54:53 Isn't the FBI director The head of the agency that is on the front line of doing exactly that so you are You're having a summit at three-day meeting on countering violent extremism And you don't invite the lead official in charge of countering violent extremists. That's right We just invited his boss and he does it again That's right we just invited his boss Don't you think that's important enough? It was an reiteration of earlier clip, but he said it again He said it again He said it again. That's right, we invited his boss. We invited his boss. Okay and then so you invite the attorney general, you don't have the FBI director but you did have the head of the Russia... No no that the rest is unimportant

55:34 Well he was gonna say the FSB guy was there. Okay, well yeah you can see security service there. How does that work? Hopefully he was listening carefully when the president was talking about the importance of governments respecting and protecting basic universal human rights. Oh! What a douche. Yeah, I'm gonna douchebag him. Douchebag! Eh...douche. You don't think that's such a strange message to have the head of the Russian FSB the successor to the KGB at this meeting and not the FBI director? Well uh..to be clear about the Russian official who attended The United States issued an invitation to the country And Russia in this case made the decision about which official from their government would represent them so it wasn't as if there was

56:23 an invitation that was sent specifically to this official. This is the official that the Russian government chose to represent them at the summit. Was there any hesitation of having an official there from Russia, given he is on the European Union's sanctions list related to the Russian invasion? Not that I'm aware of. No, no. That wasn't a problem. Now, this guy is interesting as kind promoter of this one single question about Comey and then he, and then these other questions are all clarification questions that are softballs handed up to Josh Earnest. I said it felt like a script in the beginning. And they get scripted to a point where the giveaway to me was when he's... because there's no reason to say this again, this is like maybe the theme for today show why do you say something like this if it wasn't, if you weren't either told to say or wasn't scripted for you?

57:14 And it goes like this, you have the head of the FSB which is the former AGB. He's explaining for the audience! Yeah why? Because he's asking Josh Earnest. Earnest knows and the audience should know too. Well it's the same audience that needs a broader set of tools to be available across the country to all communities, uh... To protect the vulnerable people. This is for the audience! It's for the dumb broader audience that doesn't know that- What?! The KSB is no more? It's the FSB now what?? I like this second definition of counter Is respond to hostile speech They truly are just in a war of tweets

58:10 Fascinating. Fascinating, I find it! I'm not liking this. Meanwhile of course the Russia Today folks are just doing nothing but giving everyone the needle if they can. Yeah? Needle grip? Since we just heard a little needle there of needling of Russia and their human rights violations This is a clip I picked off of RT because right now in Russia, Moscow they're having you know not today but they had a bunch of celebrations. Yeah they're celebrating or protesting the coup in Maidan. The coup and the coup is the word that Russians want everyone to use which would mean an American coup

58:58 Yeah, the Americans coup of Ukraine. Now this is the...this little document he did this guy documents all of this I have a couple comments after this but This documenting the Ukraine coup by naming names and who was there and all the rest And they just did..this is just to remind our audience what was going on before the country turned pro-European Ukraine did Free speech in British... This is the clip you want? Says documenting the Ukraine coup. Okay, I'm sorry. I had the other clip lined up Yeah EU officials actively supported last year's protests which forced out the old administration as did their American counterparts Let's show you a well-known picture here The American assistant secretary of state Victoria Newland handing out sandwiches on my damn square Days later senator John McCain met then the opposition leader Arsene Yatsenyuk

59:56 They show McCain again with Senator Chris Murphy at another anti-government rally. They're just rolling it out, aren't they? They're having a lot of fun with this In March the Secretary of State John Kerry in Kiev to honor the victims of the violence The next month Vice President Joe Biden he popped in to say hello as well And then in May... Don't forget to mention Hunter Biden, who's got a good gig there in Ukraine running an oil company. I didn't get that. Yeah, you didn't get that? Okay. Remember with the snipers we had the no-neck monster was her name Baroness Cathy Ashton the high priestess. Yeah but she's not American he just snipes them. Oh, they're snipers really? CIA chief John Brennan made a secret visit to Kiev which was later confirmed by The White House

1:00:42 We spoke to political commentator Daniel Patrick Welch. He says the US itself would never allow a revolt or even an engineered coup in any one of its neighboring countries looking at it as if Canada, Ukraine were Canada and if Russia and China were fomenting a coup in Canada and how the US would react. It's crazy really illogical thing for the U.S to think that they can get away with such a blatant and obvious coup. It is just like all of the other coups that the U.S has sponsored.

1:01:22 Anyway, this guy by the way this last guy had ranting mmm. It's all I could find about him is a blogger oh He's an anti-American blogger that apparently RT, you know they rousted him to just go on and on about this. But I think the Russians themselves could have done it... Well, I mean, I think the point of the whole thing at the end of the day is the Russians were flat footed on this deal once Victoria Nuland was in town they should've taken her out! No, I mean i don't want to be gruesome about this but it seems to me that would have been the clue like oh hold on a second seeing as she's married to the Kagan clan we made the connections very quickly yeah. We had it connected immediately and meanwhile the Russians were just...I dunno maybe she likes the place

1:02:09 I have no idea what they were thinking. The whole thing goes down and then they're like, what? Here's the Euronews report on the march in Moscow. Thousands turned out for a rally in Moscow to condemn the popular uprising in Ukraine's Maidan Square which ousted pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych one year ago. Chanting the slogan we won't forget, we wont forgive Police say around 35,000 people attended the rally which was heavily promoted by state media. I'm here to support Russia maybe in the close future a war could come here of course America supports all this NATO as well i'm ready to go to war but what war will it be?

1:02:50 If we didn't have Putin, it would be Maidan here already. And when I saw how he manages all of this, I'm very proud. You see? I bought a jumper with Putin on it! I bought it immediately! My friends didn't believe it they said but you voted for another guy...I said no Putin is our man, Putin is our president Despite the fervor of some protesters, Russian internet forums spoke of payments being handed over for attendance. The previous night saw a pro-Maidan protest where at least five people were detained and then later freed. Okay so there's...there's a lot going on here. Well you know the one thing I want to say before we go on with that is I think that the myth about Putin is completely backward. I think he's done a crappy job

1:03:41 He hasn't protected, didn't protect keep Ukraine in line. He had to scramble and did a sloppy job of getting Crimea back that wasn't very well done it was he managed it and I don't think anyone can complain about it And he's got these little up there's little two little operations down south on the eastern part of the country which should already been over on the Russian side right this is just a botch anyway go on That's a good point Well, what caught my attention in that report is the guy saying I'm ready to go to war. Okay? Yeah no, I got that too But that would be another botch The way I see it...I just started thinking about this Everyone's like oh Ukraine the great chess player Oh he's playing chess while Obama is playing checkers

1:04:27 Well, I'm not seeing any evidence of this. It looks like he's got sanctions against him. He's got all these issues couldn't even keep Germany in his camp. Well, losing every pipeline deal going on. He's about to lose Syria. How is this a great chess master? It depends on what the game is. Well, I don't better get better unfold pretty quickly. Well so here's what it seems. Germany is now making interesting moves First, we have Germany now canceling a delivery of armored vehicles to Lithuania which is making the Lithuanians and other countries in the region nervous. Right? Which would be part of our scheme to make everybody nervous so that we have to move NATO further east... And Poland –we saw this coming– has now kicked off an unprecedented military spending spree

1:05:24 Of course. Hooray for us! Good on us, what did they buy here? They're not buying Russian goods Let's see what they got... They have purchased... let me see there is a whole list of stuff Missiles, choppers Oh drones we are also exporting drones now Will anybody fly a drone Poland has earmarked 33 billion euros on the upgrade, which includes a missile shield anti-aircraft systems armored personnel carriers submarines and combat drones. So that's a nice little sale there good work everybody Oh the Irish defense minister as we discussed couple shows ago I knew is now hot we need to ramp up here people because we got Russia flying jets in international airspace but

1:06:18 Close to us. Okay, good and then we have... um see this is actually an interesting little exchange here between our man the man who I go to bed at night hoping he'll ask some questions that's all i ever ask of him Matt Lee, the Associated Press are Diplo writer. Big fan love your work and he's talking to Jen Psaki who truly is at this moment in this clip do you perform propaganda? Can you perform propagate? Is it propagandize what is the verb of propaganda? The verb propogandized. She is propagandizing the media

1:07:09 And he calls her on it. It turns into an interesting exchange, and this is about the violations of the Minsk agreements... Listen to how this went down I thought that was good that he called her out I think she really doesn't understand what she's doing is fundamentally dishonest. And Ukraine? Yes, you said that there were 250 violations. Were they by the separatists or that total violation was both sides? Separatists yes Okay so what they're talking about is this there was an announcement 250 violations of the Minsk agreement by these separatists Since February 15th. Since Saturday? Yes, since Saturday. You have said you have acknowledged before that there had been violations by the other side as well do you have a tally of how many times

1:08:00 Is it zero? I do not. I think one of the challenges we have here, Matt – and obviously I reference the Ukrainian government because they are the ones who have said 250 violations – is that the OSCE while they've confirmed ceasefire violations by the Russian-backed separatists, they don't have access to a number of these areas. They are the independent evaluator of these violations Well, the OSCE doesn't have access to Ukrainian held positions? To Debaltseve and some other areas where they can get a sense of what's happening. I have not seen them speak to Ukrainian violations Right, but if they're there to be impartial and if there have been violations I mean on you've said perhaps understandable violations because they're defending what your words that you're defending. I mean wouldn't it make sense to also have a count of how many? Well the OSCE would put out that sort of information. I haven't seen them put out that information But the information on the 250 is from the OSCE No its from the Ukrainian government

1:09:00 She said, well no we trust the Ukrainian government to give us the facts. Who needs the independent agency? Be quiet Matt! That's not the same as the OSCE right? Correct but if the OSCE would have access to a number of these areas they would be able to give their own evaluation but they don't because the separatists are preventing them from having access But I'm not sure. I understand is it is the OSCE who has built a monitoring? Alleged ceasefire not the government of Ukraine correct so though SCE you see as any neutral party in this right Yes, as does the international community right and you seen Ukraine has been neutral on this I didn't suggest that obviously Ukraine has a stake in the outline here exactly

1:09:46 But you're but you accept their figure of 250 violates. I cited their figure because it's relevant information Suggesting that it's wrong and just wondering why they don't have while you're accepting it from Ukrainian government who obviously have a stake in if there are violations being thrown out there by the Ukrainian government then let's sit against them, and let's talk about that. There you go fine They just take whatever they want and just say, this is 250 violations. Yeah it's good, sounds good. Sounds believable! Unreal man. Bastard Russians. Unreal... It truly is unreal You know, I'm thinking about this Putin thing even more and take it back to the botch on the outstanding Winter Olympics they threw. And all the negative publicity that was thrown at them and all the killing of dogs and gays and all this propaganda just continues to this day. I just don't...I am now convinced that Putin can't handle his job. I think he's too old or something.

1:10:50 I read a report somewhere, oh I wonder if i have it here that said he is lazy drunk. It could be, he could be a lazy drunk. Remember that time when he was almost killed or something near Vladivostok? Oh yeah and he disappeared for awhile there. He may have had brain damage for all we know or bumped in the head. Major binge drinking binge. Well just along the lines of what you just mentioned World Press Photo, photo of the year 2014 first prize contemporary issues goes to Danish photographer Mads Nissen which is the gay rights photo and it's a photograph that highlights the difficulties I'm reading from their press release facing sexual minorities in Russia has won the World Press Photo contest top prize. John and Alex from The Project called Homophobia in Russia shows an intimate moment between a gay couple from St Petersburg

1:11:53 It's a nice photo and all, but... Yeah. And if it's so bad, how come these two haven't been rousted and hung? Always asking the tough questions! They're still there aren't they?! Well you know I want to explore this idea that you have that he is really failing Now, there are people out there who continue to... I mean he might be like the Obama of Russia if you think about it. His main thing is that he knows how to get elected. He was elected to run the place and then he switched roles with the other guy for a while and then popped back into prominence. I mean his whole thing is to stay in power. That's his only real skill.

1:12:40 I don't know, he has a nice demeanor. Yeah for short guy. Although he's the same height as Hollande, notice that was walked together so i guess he is short too. I think this is good point Yeah, I mean, I'm tired of hearing this. Oh the great chess master against a checkers player that kind of thing and i'm seeing zero None, I don't see one piece of evidence that this guy is the grand chess master He hasn't done anything Hmm not one thing right he got fucked on the olympics You know with the bullcrap stories that were everywhere about oh there's no running water There was no front door in my room at the hotel

1:13:25 Hackers are in my phone. And hackers, right? Richard Engel the guy comes oh he's in Moscow you know it was luxury place gonna get hacked they got plenty of them there Oh I've just been hacked after putting this malware on my on my phone how does that happen these damn Russians Yeah, no this is just the opposite. Or or or we're seeing a game being played out that is much more nefarious than we know. You know I like the idea of the long game but how long does the long game go? This has been going on forever and nothing has come of it. Well... There is no long game It's a myth How about this for a long game

1:14:09 What if the long game is to just really destroy all other natural resource market suppliers, be there financially or by rubble-ization? That's our long game. Yeah that's what I mean of course it's our...I'm talking about our long game Oh! I thought you were talking about Putin's long game No That's why said i've never seen it There's no evidence he has got a long game because it would have started being implemented by now So our long game, yeah. No I... Yeah no I said it. Ah! Got it. Uh the lo- Our yes our long game seems to be that this is really a uh... I saw a guy on CNN- Empire. I saw yeah I saw a guy on CNN today about unconstitutional douche

1:14:54 There's a new show they're doing, The Unconstitutional Douche. Fareed Zakaria and he said that this is we're in the middle of a change and that our back-end shale that we can now... We can actually... He says we can extract under $50 which I found sketchy but okay. Well there's a lot of well back end has got all kinds of reserves of different sorts at the shale part i've never heard that you can do it for less than 70 or so But it's not shale that we're talking about. Bakken has got everything, right? They've got you know fracking gas... Here is what here you know what somethings up John. Crude oil. Somethings Up! The theme of today show. Somethings Up!

1:15:42 All right, let's just rest for one moment as we ponder through all of that and I want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. Dvorak! Well in the morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning too- And also in the morning to all ships at sea boots on the ground subs in the water feet in the air and all the dames and knights out there In the morning to everybody in the chat room, in the morning to Void Zero who is And he is, he's ill. He's actually in a hospital but he's on his laptop in the hospital monitoring all systems. Void Zero? Is ill? You know everybody has gotten that flu. Yeah this may be something else I don't know. It is pulmonary related. We need Void Zero! Don't die on us! Void Zero is the man.

1:16:36 In the morning. He's in the hospital? Yeah, he is on the... he is in the back channel from the hospital. Wow! The hospitals are the worst place to be. Yeah it's not good. Because they get sicker in the hospitals there lots of documentation for this. Get out of the hospital! We will send him karma for sure Also in the morning to our artists Thank you very much Festus That who the art came from For episode 6, 9 or 7 And now I have to think, what was it again? You could just yeah, I got it. Oh yeah there was the free Nobel Peace Prize with an order of shrimp tacos It came from that was an old evergreen That's we've been sitting at which remind to remind people We do that we do look at evergreens sure Evergreens and every once in a while There's one that just and we get it wasn't that the art was weak it was like none of it Was just didn't fit didn't fit right hitting the Homer? It's a bit so like you said last time. It's a black art Black art is art

1:17:38 And today we start this portion of the program by thanking our executive producers and associate executive producers. There he is! Is it going to be it, the scream? Yeah. Okay well Stephen Pelsmacher's our Grand Duke that owns Belgium and France has come in with a $700 congratulatory donation for show 700 coming up. We'll get a double producership." He's in Belgium and he says, "'Hail everybody! 700 shows of the BPITU.' Double producer credit? Who can pass that up?' Thank you gentlemen for your courage and your praiseworthy deconstruction of all the mac-and-cheese avoiding... For all us, the mac-and-cheese avoiding folks.'"

1:18:30 on to the next 700 or until you are deemed to spread unlawful content on the internet. And I realize that we...I just want to reiterate for a moment where the mac and cheese comes from, we have new people who are saying what is this with these guys with mac and cheese? Yeah. This is based upon John's expert analysis of cycles returning occurrences that he's always on the lookout for. And during the Great Depression, if I recall correctly this is when the grilled cheese sandwich was created? Is that right? No, the mac and cheese it was one of...it was created during that era. Our popu- I mean mac and cheese has been around for obviously ever but its been popularized

1:19:13 During the depression. But that was, I thought you said it was grilled cheese? No no I said mac and cheese... Wait what's the connection with mac and cheese?! That this is the new version of it during this great depression! Oh no no no no no. Okay well- Hey would you please explain the Mac & Cheese thing to me because apparently I don't know where it came from It came, it was a depression food. It was the depression food people didn't have a lot to eat you had mac and cheese it's like dinner How did I come up with grilled cheese then? You just came up with that on your own recently I never mentioned grilled cheese I'm sorry Grilled cheeses not the same it's a sandwich Yes! This is a dinner Yes its a meal Wait there's a new commercial listen to this This is great this is the new craft ad

1:19:57 Did you make Kraft mac and cheese for the kids? Yep. Did you cook some protein to go with it? It has nine grams of protein per serving This is their new thing Wow And I have a little logo, 9 grams of protein per serving Yeah, they've put protein... So the wife comes in there and she finds the old man's mac and cheese which comes in a box. It's even better than this! This is so multi-tiered it's the pushification. She calls him out on the protein because normally in the modern era until recent depression which began you know few years ago uh in the modern era

1:20:36 Before the Depression, mac and cheese was a side dish which you could get at dinner. I used to cook mac and cheese. Now it's an entire meal! Now it is the meal that is the earmark of a depression And so she's calling him out on this and he calls her, tops her. With no there is plenty of protein in it which is probably a dehydralized crap that they get from pink slime and they make it and dump it as filler because I don't even know if there was any cheese in that crap dish It's powder. What cheese can you make with powder? I've made this mac and cheese, the very one they're selling in this ad! Yes... Do you remember the Mexican guys were painting in the house and they looked at me when they went like ay caramba

1:21:22 Yeah, I don't remember the punchline. Was it gross? Awful! They couldn't believe i was eating it. Oh well Mexicans have a cheap cuisine that's absolutely delicious so you can't see anybody eating something so stupid that tasteless as mac and cheese You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Cheap macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together! Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. ELL'S MARKET!!! There we go. Thank you. You've got karma! Thank you to our Grand Duke. And we have another $700 donation from our buddy Sir Dwayne Melanson, the Duke of the Pacific Northwest from Tyguard Oregon. Greetings from the Duke of the Pacific Northwest. Stellar job of late particularly with the Matt Lee coverage always my favorite though it has no jingle

1:22:17 Karma for all especially the producers and tilted tilt titled. I'm sorry Tilted and the titled members of the community we would also love a fact ah if you please You've got karma, I knew what he wanted You got it, you nailed it. And another $700 donation from Sir Philip Smith in Oslo Norway So we have an international crowd congratulating us We've got the United States Belgium Norway France Nice U-Hook Okay so this makes me baronet now Sir Phillip Philip Smith Baronet of Oslo Right on

1:23:05 Okay, you rock. I think is what it's supposed to say It's an autocorrect fail the correct fail that you hook which means we're knitters or something crochet Crochet where the C stands for crochet Matthew Elward in Fort Worth, Texas 333. 33 in the morning thank you for your courage shows in the past month have been incomparable and a consistent source of entertainment my life I thoroughly enjoyed your deconstruction regarding the use of the final cut pro by Isis ISIL dash whatever you want to call them as well as the gems the State Department spoke holes do I cannot help but laugh out loud at times when I hear Marie Harf getting testy with Matt Lee I want to say that no agenda karma works Works.

1:23:49 I asked for a job hunting karma in my last donation in October because my position is ending in April. Since then, I've received two unsolicited job offers and interview and the interview went so well that I had an offer the next day! A promotion! I accepted the offer after some back-and-forth and will be starting on my new role come May. Please consider this donation as a token of my appreciation for the karma 3333 This donation will put me over to knighthood threshold at see accounting below And would like to be knighted as Sir Matt of The Moon So I can lay claim to the Israel moon bases and any other items of interest up there. You can throw in some Johnny Walker green label for me at the round table, that'd be great." It's not too much trouble like they get a Judge Jeanine We Need To Kill Them remix and then end the morning in a Dr. Kiki it was worth it keep up the great work

1:24:40 Okay, let me first add his Johnny Walker Green label. I've never even heard of that Oh yeah we talked about it on the show oh okay well you're the... when we talk about the cheese sandwich Yeah okay You're the alcohol guy i'm gonna play the new mix by Kona I kind of like that It's Judge Janine and it's Marie Harf all bundled together in a little bit of killjoy Well, how do we win? How do we stop this? We need to kill them. Something I would agree with. We need to bomb them and bomb them again! Are we killing enough of them? We're killing a lot of em' And were gonna keep killing more of them. Were very good at that They are coming for us. I'd love that Conan had that? No this is our Conan. Our producer Conan S he made for us Oh good It was worth it

1:25:32 You've got karma. This is an excellent one with this is our guy we killing enough of them That is Chris Matthews. This is these guys are bloodthirsty yeah, are we killing? We're killing enough of them whoo Let's go out for a beer. That's good, maybe we can think about it! Let's have a beer and talk about killing people. Yeah I feel good now. Andrew Martin in Terrella New South Wales Australia 250 bucks he is the associate executive producer for show 698. I quite enjoy their research and yes I like the comedy on the show. I really appreciate the hard work you guys put in and whatever sacrifices You've made coming in or coming from the suburbs of Western Empire It's great to find folks from the capital ie Americans who you can relate to yeah, and don't leave your wondering if they're from outer space Outer space we are more alike than you know mm-hmm. I would say there is some of that now

1:26:33 And that's why, in fact when I had my Australian Slingbox which seems to fail. I don't have it anymore. Whoever had that can maybe read... I thought Maynard had set you up with a new one? Well maybe. I might've missed that. I'll have to dig around. I'll have to reset all of my... Here is how it usually happens. John ignored my email so I'm sending it to you! So with the Slingbox you watch Australian news mostly like at least half American news Oh yeah Brian Dennison in Danbury, Connecticut. Oops! I see that he's a blank here so let's see if there is anything in the emails with his name on them. Sorry. How do you spell his last name? Dennison D-E-N-N-E-S. Let's see what we got.

1:27:29 No, he's got a location. I'm sorry the notification and then i'm gonna go just go the extra mile here He has his okay let me try this just to see if his Gmail address oh you're really doing some forensics well You know I just Know nope nope nope nope well Brian send us another note But it is your favorite number two three four five six so that's good. Yes Two three four five six from Danbury David Fugazotto in Somewhere let's see where he stays from anyway two three four five six also in the morning gentlemen I've been freeloading for far too long and therefore, I'm in serious need of a de-douching Okay, we can do that for you right now You've been D douche

1:28:26 He lives and works in Europe and travels frequently through Ukraine. So your analysis on all things euro, and on the ongoing shenanigans in Eastern Europe are especially enlightening! Additionally, I've been studying for and recently took the State Department's Foreign Service Officer Test to try to join the Noodle Man Gang. Wow! That's... yeah we need you there." Yes. Good. Imagine my surprise when I saw a practice question on The Smith-Munt Act and got it correct? Something that would never have happened if I didn't listen to this show

1:29:01 So please accept a small contribution, portion of which is earned in Ukraine and earmarked for the first step toward my eventual knighthood. Even though it's no longer in the news I'd like to request that Ebola lady saying E-BOLA." Ebola. Followed by Dr Kiki's It Was Worth It and the Bingo Boom Shakalaka Mix. Finally, I'd really appreciate some foreign service test karma and the results are due out any day now perhaps some... Yeah, Dave. You have to let us know how that works. Propagate the formula in that august body thanks for always entertaining informative show Dave & Deutschland! Hey can't wait man it would be great if he made it in

1:29:42 Fantastic. Alright, congratulations at Karma coming your way and the clips as you requested. Ebola It was worth it! It was worth it. Bingo boom-boom chugga lagga lagga boom-boop-boom-boom chugga lagga boom-boom Ebola You've got karma There you go. You ask we play And then we've got Ryan aka Instanite me. Well, instanite this is not how you get instant night but okay He's already an instanite He is he's a nice. Oh, that's his name. Yes for a Ka usually means that's his name Yeah, right what does aka stand for also known as oh there you go? Aka to 2274 in Medina Ohio I've been a monthly donor of five bucks a month for a year now But in the recent promotion and corresponding raise coincident with my 44th birthday following on Sunday show I figured out was in the middle of a super storm of cosmic karma and wanted to share it with the best podcast In the universe

1:30:46 Therefore, encloses my first donation of any substance. This is not the instant night for The No Agenda Show and a nice even number 22274 that can be split down the middle between John's Keyboard Battery Reserves and Adams Airstream Procurement Fund. This donation along with my paltry past years' monthly pittance has brought me to unofficial level of quarter-night I hope that I can continue my steady march toward knighthood and achieve the dubious distinction of a knight in the no agenda roundtable. Thank you for your both...thank you both for your in-depth global policy analysis and the first rate media deconstruction since becoming a listener, it's hard for me not to chuckle whenever I see a meme played out on a television screen." Which by the way, I think is the goal of this show, make people self aware. Yeah. Scrap into laugh.

1:31:39 In celebration, please finish this reading with a Reverend Manning whip it with the Constitution pokey Porky Obama twofer and round out the festivities with karma for all listeners douchebag boners and exalted donors alike. Special shout out to all the folks on the no agenda Google Plus community. And that's the story. You've got karma Good call Yeah, it was good Let me look up Winkler and see if we can I know we had a letter from him and thought I printed it out but apparently not I see something there's text in the box

1:32:26 Yeah, but it falls apart. That's what his concern was. He said two things and unfortunately I just clicked on the wrong one Okay here we go in the morning again an addition of my birthday with by the way this is Donald Winkler in Deutschland he's in Berlin Germany another Deutsche yeah, I think he's an American in Deutschland So is Dave might be winkler vincola is a David Dave and Donald should get together they even don't see a Vinkler to In the morning again, in addition to my birthday donation for Sunday and after I heard how much better the other jingles were on the Bomb Them clip. I sat down and gave it another shot what can i say? I'm obviously a fan and this is sent in another clip did you get the clip? This clip? This IS clip. I don't think so... Bomb Them jingle number two by Donald Winkler

1:33:20 I don't think you ever got that one, John. Let's see... Send it to you? I should have forwarded it. No, he sent it to you! You can look at up when we play the end of the show. You sent it?! No, HE sent this. You're on the list of people who received this email. Um yeah but can you forward that to me? It's Donald Winkler- I don't have it Can you just forward it to me? Okay. Please. I'll do that and we'll play later. From your squirrel mail? Squirrel mail!? Damn squirrels! And anyway Donald Winkler will close out our producers for show 698 want to remind people do a show on Thursday and we're getting into the cycle where you get more money on Sunday and Thursday's falling off. I know so now is the time again, a producership quick in this our last day for double producership on Thursday of Show 699 go to Dvorak dot org slash N A yeah We're getting up to this big 700 number six nine and I know astonishing it truly is

1:34:18 That's great. It's an accomplishment, 700 of anything is a lot. Yes Of course we could not do that without our producers across the board who help us with information help us financially and these are executive and associate executive producers highly appreciative certainly of our always good to see the peerage come in and help us out okay I got that jingle check that in a second These credits are real. You can put them in... people seem to like putting them on their IMDB and it does get you views or something that seems to work. LinkedIn? I'm sorry, why? I said IMDB now well if IMDB would work too yeah LinkedIn is where you want to have it and of course as John said we will have another thank-you segment coming up later in this program and another show on Thursday.

1:35:11 And obviously we always need everybody out there doing their best and their utmost to propagate the formula. Our formula is this, we go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up! Shut up! I had Thursday after the show...I probably shouldn't have done it because i was really in no shape to go out but it was the only time he could meet me. I had dinner with our ex New York banker

1:35:49 And, you know I'm always... He's got something interesting to say. He always has something interesting to say but he had a number of things we talked about Greece and I wanted his take on it And he says, well really it doesn't really matter anymore. He says it's all covered. It's all been baked in this is just theatrics. He says the only people who are going to get hurt 100% guaranteed is the Greek people. Really? Gee! There's only two ways this can go and one is a run on the bank which has kind of already been happening

1:36:27 I think 18 billion euros has already been extracted. But, you know he says no matter what it's the people who will suffer and no one else is going to get hurt by this it's theatrics but then he said something very interesting which...and I'm not sure I quite understand exactly and he couldn't really explain it to me. I think it just is what it is. He said have you noticed how any news coming out of banks American banks is kind of humble downplaying their salaries and just kind of, you know, really soft about compensation how things are going. And I said well no I haven't but now I've course I went back and looked at these are they say well we 20% less salaries or... Oh the poor babies Yeah but what he says that's what bankers do when they have won

1:37:25 I said, what do you mean? We won. He said who's we the American banks? What do you mean? We won he says you'll see we won well that's our job we win right we're winners and by the way we lost you and i oh yeah we but he's when he's i think he speaks as a banker no i'm not talking about that mechanics bank has been sold Oh No! yes to that Texas douchebag oh man They were already starting to suck and now... which douchebag is this? Some flipper. I don't have his name at the tip of my tongue, but he's a bank flipper. He buys a bunch of little banks, little community banks that serve the community and actually improve the community and they're public-oriented and helpful

1:38:11 And he puts them together as a package and sells them to Chase. Oh, geez! Or Bank of America or Crowell. So what are we gonna do now? We're screwed! They'd already sold half of it I think... Yeah, a guy who already had the camel was in the tent already. But anyway this guy... Most people observers in the area I mean we can go to if Umpqua opens up a bank in the area closer than Walnut Creek We can switch to them but I don't think that's...I think we're gonna have to just.. I don't know what were going to do. Yeah well that's sad. You know who told me the deal finally closed? I can't believe this

1:38:59 a checker at Whole Foods. Yeah, I go to Whole Foods and buy occasional stuff that's overpriced. Whole Foods is the most amazing rip-off place ever! And the clientele is alien to any clientele I'm normally... It's like hipster dudes with beards? No no it's mostly a bunch of... Oh here it is It's a bunch of people who don't care about the social... Don't care about money. They think everything there is better, they've been selling billy goods. They're classic knee-jerk people that have just whatever you tell them the believe. They're kale eaters and they are kale eaters lot of kale eaters

1:39:43 And this is overstaffed. At least they are charging too much, but at least they got a lot of people working there. I mean there's way too many people in that place. Of course they're not getting union wages so they can afford to have bigger staff... But the place is clean, I have to say. I find them to be quite helpful. It's out of my way and... No they are helpful! And then the lines at The Checkers there always put... There's never more than one person? Yeah there's always a bagger You really get in there and you get out. I can't go there because i can't buy candles They don't just normal candles. They don't have normal candles Candles?! At Whole Foods a candle is 12 bucks. You're buying candles?? Yes

1:40:22 So when you take a bath, you can have the candles? No. Is it bubble baths? No I don't take bubble baths. I like candles! You're gonna burn the place down And they also don't sell sugar smacks so why bother What?! Yeah sugar smacks... I don't even know what that is Sugar smacks? It's breakfast cereal Oh my god! It's cardboard with sugar. Ugh, yeah Okay I got the breakfast cereal that i'm gonna recommend Newman's Flax, honey flax flakes. Now I would never... Is this an old guy thing where you poop better? What is this? No it's got nothing to do with poop! It is the flax flakes are delicious because they maintain a crunch for hours and you crunch in there the loudest most that crunch crunch crunch

1:41:22 fabulous. Newman's here we go, Newman's oh they do have honey flax flakes that's it honey flax flake I see it right here but absolutely the top of all cereals look at this is on bit on Amazon they have a deal and Newman's own honey flax flakes wheat brand cereal 16 ounce a pack of five for $36.99 Plus 11.74 shipping, what? I get it at the grocery outlet for like three bucks a box. I prefer the sugar smacks you know because it wakes you up. I'll bet it does. Because you're getting wet because of the cavities in your teeth that start to ache

1:42:09 Well, we're talking about pop stuff. We have to mention that today is the Academy Awards Yes correct and I intend on watching And so I have a pertinent clip little very good a little segue little entrement very good yes That kind of applies to entrement this is something chef has prepared for you. Yes, it's something chef Chef especially for you. I love that and we have a little entreman here This is something chef has prepared especially for you It consists of a shaved beet This is like a shaved beet and some horseradish on the spoon. That's my favorite entremont. Yeah, entremont supposed to be refreshing mid... It should be a sorbet-like thing. It should be like some sort of palate cleanser.

1:42:57 Yeah, like a sorbet. Yeah or something. Here I've been served entremont before the hors d'oeuvre. Oh that's at the beginning of the meal that's kind of something special the chef has made especially for you! Sorry not THE chef Chef. I'm making a mistake, it's something chef has prepared especially for you because he knows you're at the table and he's looking out all the time... Oh look who is there! It's Adam! He made something especially for you Let me shave a beet You know i got into beef actually with a waiter over this once oh boy

1:43:40 Charlie Trotter's, which at the time—which was maybe 10 years ago or longer. At the time it was this hoity-toity place in Chicago—it was the best restaurant in Chicago more or less and it was famous Charlie Trotter And I was there for a business meeting and it was taken there to discuss some things with one of the publishers at Ziff. And we're being interrupted constantly by Chef, who says, Chef wants to welcome you. Chef has made this for you." And I said look, the chef doesn't even know we're here will you stop this now?

1:44:15 Because it was bugging me, I couldn't get that word in with him. We were having a conversation and then what? And the guy said... He said huh! And he left and then he just brought the meal saying nothing ever again the whole meal never came by to ask you. Well, you showed him didn't ya? Well, he didn't spit into food I don't think Uh-huh, maybe he did. Chef? Chef! I just... where the C stands for chef there we go John Chef Dvorak all right so Academy Awards clip. I thought this was funny You got an Academy Awards clip yeah Where is it? I don't know Spielberg versus God

1:44:54 Ha ha, good. We don't know who's going to win but we have a good idea who they might thank the website evocative analyzed all the Oscar speeches ever given and Steven Spielberg has been thanked literally more times than God Spielberg has been thanked 42 times God 19 times There you go there you go there you go I'm interested. I have not seen all the movies, unfortunately. But I'm pissed I haven't seen Birdman and you told me a half to is really good and I do want to see it so that's...I don't know. That's fun! I am really interested to see if Laura Poitras...if she wins it for Citizen Four? I think it will because they tend to be political when they... So the question is what will the political...what will the acceptance speech be

1:45:46 Remember when people just went... You probably have to think about that because ever since Michael Moore came up there and made a fuss, they have been very careful about choosing people they know aren't going to be big blowhards. I don't think that she's gonna be a big blowhard but here's what i would expect to happen I would expect to go live to Moscow and have Snowden appear with his broken nose pad glasses. Brand Snowden should appear. Oh, that's a good call! That seems pretty obvious they've got that set up... Well you know if i was producing this thing I'd be sketchy about it. Do we need this? do we need to have Snowden? Yes, it makes Academy look good. It makes us look like we're forward-thinking

1:46:26 Well, you'll recall was it last year when or the year before when Michelle Obama was waiting in the White House with Marines and stuff to hand out? Come on. I mean they produce these things well yeah so why wouldn't you have Snowden standing by? Well here's another counter argument isn't he a little passe? It's like old news Well, he's still no. No I don't think so. I think he's still a- Okay i'm gonna go with no Snowden okay? I'll go with Snowden and Yeah, it's fun is entertained Really, I like watching the red carpet stuff more than anything to see what people are wearing I do! I do yeah, I know you do! I like it! I'm actually interested

1:47:22 I'm sorry. Who? How could she choose that dress?! Yeah! Oh my god! Well now that Joan Rivers is dead, because i was a big fan of...I work with Joan Rivers, big fan of hers loved her fashion police because she just sat there as an old cranky lady and would say really horrible things. Can't beat it. But now what they've done is they've brought in Kathy Griffin Oh, Kathy Griffin? Is that her name? Griffith. Yeah, Kathy or Griffin. We agree with Griffin-Griffin. She's the one who... yeah. But what's interesting is Juliana who was the E girl, their big superstar Juliana whatever her last name is she's always been on the show but she's funnier than Kathy which makes it really uncomfortable to watch

1:48:11 No, it's anyway. I'm sorry There yes, I do watch that now you go apparently yeah Yeah, I'm sorry so i'm watching uh this week of me spent a lot of time watching cctv Now, CCTV America...they add that to the end. Is the Chinese government's station and you can kind of if you watch it enough, you can kind of see what the Chinese are up to in certain ways and so I got this clip which is a little long but you might want to interrupt it or even stop it if you feel like it but... Well before you play it before your intro

1:48:47 The ex-banker from New York did give me some info about China. Oh, well talk about that first! He said China is in so much trouble that they have to start some kind of war or some distraction otherwise everything's going to fall apart he says there they are in dire dire dire straits...he believes they're going to either it could even be a war internally on their own turf something had they got to blow something up big otherwise they're in big trouble Does that fit in with this clip? No, not at all. But it does fit in with another clip kind of which is a clip that the big trouble thing I wouldn't say is totally discussed but the Chinese apparently went nuts

1:49:32 This is Chinese New Year, we're still celebrating. It goes on for a week. It's not like just the one day thing and so they all travel everybody supposed to go their hometown and there's like travel mania that goes on in China for this week and a lot of them go to Japan I got it. And they go there to buy stuff. But recently, Chinese tourists seem to have found a new favorite bidet toilet seats featuring warm water options heated seats and the ability to cure germs and unwanted odors Bidets are not cheap 2,000 yuan or about 300 US dollars apiece but the price is no deterrent

1:50:11 You don't need to choose among brands. When you see it, just take it or you will miss it." All the toilet seats have sold quickly after being restocked. Many Chinese tourists are buying them this year and manufacturers have no time to make enough products to meet their demand. These toilet seats are also sold in China, but they're cheaper and better quality in Japan. In Japan even smaller products become huge attractions. Facial brush electric toothbrush and vacuum cup I heard the best quality products are stocked and sold only in Japan so I buy them here

1:51:01 to I don't know why they don't just copy more of these, but they don't. Apparently they have a good contract and good deal." And so they make the specked out product and send it someplace else, and then maybe it's tweaked a little bit who knows? But they love this stuff in Japan. They're buying Japanese goods because it's cheaper which is a Chinese thing but there's also...the quality is better which is that I think a new Chinese thing. Now after this presentation which was also on CCTV

1:51:41 I'm not sure why. Just maybe, I think some messaging went on with the following guy who came in which is gonna be harder to hear but this guy is a business consultant and he talks about the big changes taking place amongst the Chinese consumers where they're actually buying quality and they can't find a quality product in China, which is just ironic in a lot of different ways. But he talks about the future of marketing and I think reason why made this clip, our listeners for many of them who have small businesses and have to think about these things that they're trying to move the Chinese

1:52:19 industry to be more public, you know use public relations and advertising all these things they don't like to do because their marketing scheme was always just best price. So they made a cheaper product that was cheaper literally in every way so the quality wasn't there but if things are changing They believe American influence to get, no you want a good product. You wanna pay more money for better quality and then of course somehow it's cheaper but let's listen to this thing again little sense if you can understand this character about what is going on marketing wise in China

1:52:55 I think the, you know made by Japan, made it by Germany or even made by US they are heavily based on consumer research which is really cannot be matched to buy Chinese companies yet and the type of services, type of sophistication in a marketing strategy. I think these are, you know, the practices that Chinese companies can really benchmark So now we do not only create the utility, but we really need to create superb advantage to the eye of consumers. What really do Chinese manufacturers needed to upgrade their product quality and compete with foreign brands? I think one is that they need to carefully study consumer taste and particularly predict

1:53:43 the transformation of consumers preference. Ah, big data! That's where this is headed. Hadoop full of poop? And second from the onset in the along the entire value chain from the research and development they need really to look at the consumer needs before they really begin to launch a pilot production. And then the seamless pipeline of service need really to step up, to match and then also they need to work with the great partners overseas particularly when they are abroad and right now many of them still sell to retailers and then they stop there... If I can just interject it sounds to me like part of the problem

1:54:33 They need to get their internal market going is the Chinese their internal marketing You See, they don't care about the imaging. The Chinese are susceptible to American advertising and public relations as anybody. Why wouldn't they be? Because it's a human thing that... It's that good and we're good at it. And then it's that good, great. The Chinese manufacturers are still stuck in like the 50s with this best price idea and they don't know about average... And many billionaires that have figured out that advertising... I mean, to get the Chinese to advertise is like pulling teeth in a high-tech world. They never do it. They won't do it. What's the point? It was just a waste of money. They just think it's price. Yeah because we have best price why would you want to advertise everyone just check price where ours is best. We check price.

1:55:25 Good price, no marketing. They're being lectured now to change their ways which is again we propagandize and they're finally thinking this way and I don't think any of it's big data that the market research stuff. I think a lot of it is like there's a system in place like we talked about with the fashion industry where the colorists are people who would like Pantone these guys invent the next seasons colors six months before the colors become popular that sort of thing as part a mechanism that is already in place and the Chinese are not part of. And so they just, you know, they're just essentially more or less OEMs for everybody else. I mean here's the spec make this product and then we'll get it cheap from ya. They don't have any

1:56:08 I mean, I would suspect that if you're in a Chinese factory and you see them making whoopee cushions or something and they're wondering who the hell's buying this stuff. And they're totally clueless. And I think they're trying to fix that now if they do fix it, I think is going to be a problem for us. But yeah, but I don't know that they can. And I hate to just ramble on here, but there was something...this is again CCTV. They were talking about they have these soccer schools in China and they're huge and they're all run by like what's the one in Madrid? I can't remember the name of it. Rayal Madrid? Yeah! They have a school in China that's the size

1:56:47 a university with like 50 soccer fields. And the British have one of these operations going on, the French have one...there's a bunch of them and the Brazilians have one and they're all training these... This is what Beckham should get in on this. This is what he should be doing. Actually Beckham might be already whatever the case They're finding kids in school and they're starting to train them from the age five and up. It's like a boarding school, you bring the kids in there is like thousands and thousands of kids playing soccer." And this British analyst came over and he studied the whole thing. He says, The problem is this again, the Chinese trying to do something thinking that just by doing it...

1:57:30 Thousands of thousands, just by sheer numbers they hope to get the world's best soccer team. Apparently it is FC Barcelona not Real Madrid Yeah it's the Barcelona team and he says that doesn't work because experts have come over and yeah these kids are talented, they're unbelievably athletic all the rest but none of them have a soccer mind a football mind. He says they don't...they're just robots." And this is a cultural thing and the Chinese can't seem to get over it, and so they just think by throwing you know, let's make a bigger factory maybe then people will buy our product kind of thing. And I think, you know, this is gonna be the big challenge for the Chinese but if the whole country is gonna fall apart in the next... Aaron Well, this is what the banker said he said China needs to start war

1:58:21 His exact words well they have been like building ghost cities and throwing money at any man He mentioned the ghost cities, too Yeah, yeah why I was not in top form so I didn't maybe I missed some important Subtle information he never really gives it to you outright. You know what I mean Banker way. Yeah, well the bankers can talk amongst themselves like that and know exactly what to say. What did they just say to each other? I know what to buy tomorrow! I'm shorting that stock! And this is why...I'm pretty sure the president is now pushing very hard for the TPP and the TPIP

1:59:03 These are the trade agreements. Oh, that's interesting! This is right now... In fact his podcast today was I didn't clip it but i think his podcast was all about the TPP and he's pushing that in again. All right let me ask my China report. Again you just keep watching The One Network and you get a lot of interesting stories become clearer as you listen and watch. Let me see When I do have as you look in there, uh This is just an offbeat clip. This was a clip. I think it was on our she was either on rt or no this is al jazeera And this is a story about what's going on in syria? Mm-hmm and they're they're using some they're sweetening the sound and I want to get this sound this is a guy in the background screaming

2:00:05 And it just sounds terrific. It sounds like it's something you want to put in any of our discussions. I see a Syria part two, you need to tell me what... Curious Screaming Guy! Okay, I wish I had that one. Now you do. Oh no, its Curious Screaming Guy. Yes but I just said Sorry. Well in Syria itself rebels have attacked government positions north of the city of Aleppo Video on social media appears to show fighting near two villages Is she can barely add that I was wondering like the clip didn't worry about at the very end you can hear this guy Screaming and I'm thinking why is this in there because this is not on the Twitter? Uh-huh guys anyway, it's a fail yeah

2:00:54 But I've got the idea and i'm gonna start doing using it that they're using Well, no, not that they're sweetening the sound but this is specific kind of screaming like screaming Yeah you get you gotta work on that one. Oh yeah well It didn't come out very well the drudge report uh Drudge report had a very strange article And I'm going to read it to you. It had long been... What? Yeah, it had long been since. I'm not sure that and i'm not really buying this but is this a Drudge written thing or just Drudge linked to something let me double check I think it's Drudge here usually links to something well this is this this no this is uh Drudge report let me see if he if this is a story that he copied and linked maybe um came first from the

2:02:03 National report, whatever that is. Okay he probably copied it? He did copy it on the Drudge Report. It had been suspected long suspected that ISIS videos were being produced from an outside source due to their above average production value but no one had imagined an American production company could somehow be involved well yeah I think we have imagined But then he talks about this company, which was the Final Solution Productions and their website finalsolutionsproductions.com, which pretty much is like a parking site now... Oh here it is! Final Solutions? Final Solutions? Finalsolutionsproductions.com And oh okay. Sounds like a red herring. At Sunset & Vine. Oh bullcrap. Yeah that's not where any production companies are but here's what they say who we are

2:02:54 If you're looking for a fun group of people to help create your next commercial, you've come to the right place. Apparently they did arrest people according to this report FBI special agents arrested with the Department of Homeland Security Eight people being held as suspects in distributing and creating terrorist propaganda are awaiting formal charges I don't know The way they apparently caught it According to one source is authorities learned video elements being sent via encrypted FTP servers Ooh To a producer quote somewhere in the United States. Tech experts, ugh... tech experts tell us that once a server containing this media could be intercepted it wouldn't take long for someone with the right resources to be able to track the IP address of where it was ultimately being delivered I don't know um real that is?

2:03:50 It's a funny idea. It has long been suspected that the ISIS videos were produced from an outside source due to the above average production value, but no one had ever imagined an American production company could somehow be involved! That changed last night when authorities moved in and raided Final Solution Productions, a production company off of the famous intersection of Sunset and Vine Sunset invite that's where the Amevio thing was wasn't it no that was Hollywood invites. Oh, right? I was thinking this Ron bloom bite-sized TV Do for business I know let's produce videos for these guys That would be pretty funny yeah Interesting but that that's the only report I've seen about it nothing else so

2:04:48 But yeah, that does it came in shows up everywhere. It's international the same exact reports in National Report It's one of those you know Word for word things that they're always it seems like a like as I don't know It's like an underground of news sources. Uh, it's on national news and the National Report. It's on above top secret same report Yeah, it's on Yeah, I destined only to this hasn't gotten a lot of play if they're trying to get publicity Here it is, Hollywood producing 1260 zero info one two one six oh info which is apparently some news site. No idea what that is huh? What the hell's this one posted by Svetina Tu Less than 10 minutes to go! Okay Enough of that Alright let's do this real quick

2:06:44 Well, it showed our resolve. Can you open the climate gate? I have a report. Every week, every show for the last five shows I had one of these reports. This time it wasn't going to let it go by which is you know some of the climate change information out there uh... The global warming in particular and again the report is East Coast chill in case people on other parts of the world don't know what's going on A deep freeze of the winter 2015 tightened its grip today across much of the eastern US In the process it left a legacy inscribed in ice across rivers and record books alike

2:07:28 Morning commuters in Washington faced a bone-chilling walk to work. It's freezing, it's like freezing freezing. Have you ever seen it this cold? No never I was born and raised here I've never ever seen it this cold. No one else had either the official low in the nation's capital dropped to six degrees degrees, breaking a record set in 1896 and even icing over the tidal basin around the Jefferson Memorial. The story was the same up and down the East Coast. It was two degrees in New York City's Central Park, breaking a 1950 mark of seven degrees. Trenton, New Jersey hit zero surpassing the low of six degree set in 1936

2:08:16 And in Baltimore, the reading was 2 degrees erasing the record set in 1979. The Arctic air made for spectacular sights. The Delaware River in Pennsylvania was frozen as far as the eye could see and wind chills around Philadelphia plunged to minus 25. I have like four or five layers under this sweater fleece Climate change is real. It's real! Yeah, climate change... Ice Age? Yeah now you can't this it's gotten so nutty in fact Sir Gene just sent me a he said sent me a picture of the cover of the new National Geographic

2:09:07 which I presume he subscribes to, so it's the actual printed version. National Geographic March 2015 The War on Science. Yeah, well that's the clip I had last show of those two people talking uh... that one guy was the guy who wrote that article Oh really? yeah and so here in and as a on-the front on the cover climate change and then does not exist evolution never happened the moon landing was fake vaccinations can lead to autism genetically modified food is evil THE WAR ON SCIENCE! And here is in the midst all this

2:09:44 Way and he's sitting I think in the I don't know if it's CB not CBS and one of the morning news programs Entertainment programs Bill Nye science guy climate guy climate guy split-screen him on the right on the left nothing but footage of snow and big snow and snow and cold and freezing snow And here's what he says what? I would hope for my dream joy dream is that you all I think it's MSNBC actually, that's Joy Reid.

2:10:33 ways regarded as a progressive station, as opposed to a conservative I say station. Right. News organization. I will say to the conservatives we need you this is to say we can't have everybody be progressive liberal Bleeding heart and so on so on we need people on both sides, but if the conservative side is going to continue to deny what 97% of the scientists in the world are saying We're not gonna reach a consensus. We are not gonna make progress I throw in one more thing quickly people say me all time What can I do about climate war? Yeah, you'll buy climate change just talk about it yeah If we were talking about it, we'd raise awareness and we would get to work and I

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2:12:00 God, a man fist bump. I know no he doesn't want people to talk about it as one any discussion he wants a man says goes there's no discussion the other day Bill Maher I wish they had this clip by it was like one of these things that couldn't bring myself to clipping it and why we need it for you understand how these news organizations can just Talk about climate change more. More! They don't talk about it enough. Oh man, now the Republicans are going to investigate the climate change data tampering by NASA. Ow! What did you just do? That wasn't too good something fell... Don't worry I'm okay part of the... Part of my soundproofing fell down

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2:23:52 Okay, Ebola clips overhead is gone right. That's the new bomb them thing I guess Yeah, we can do that We can do that for sure what I was um? I think this was a this was tweeted earlier in the week about and and I just wanted to Circle around to this particular story so people know what's going on This is about Mars one Oh God. Yeah, and it cropped up! I'm glad you're talking about this because i kept looking at this thing and they got ah... They had this all over CCTV too by the way. Really? Ah well yes okay so what we had here in Austin headline former Austonite could be one of the first people to live on Mars And uh So this outfit called Mars One is By the way I want to start stop before a second This is the dumbest

2:24:46 publicity stunt I've ever seen for a, I guess it's going to be a reality show. Yeah. And the clues are everywhere. First of all, it's at Dutch organization. Now let me tell you some Dutch not so well known for their space exploration just low on the, uh, on the space totem pole But if you look at who's in this outfit, which is very fun to see that you have the original executive producer of Endemol's Big Brother program as one of the advisors. They actually have a pretty good list. This is one of these scams very similar to the space... You know, the Richard Branson fly-in space thing. Here's how the scam works. You promise that you're going to be—you are buying a ticket

2:25:38 to do something outrageous like in this case it's a one-way ticket to Mars and but really what is going to... well first let me explain what happens in the regular scam. This isn't new, a variant So you pay $100,000 for your ticket and then you go through a number of training exercises which means you get on the Vomit Comet which is the zero-g plane. You're paying an extra 20 grand for that weekend it's really for rich people to feel good about being rich and doing all kinds of fun things with other rich people but yeah it's questionable if you'll ever actually get on some plane and fly into space With this particular one

2:26:19 I like this a little bit better because they've already done an elimination round and it's not about how much money you can bring in, because the money in this Mars One outfit... In fact here is the business. They even have on their page mars-one.com What is the Mars One Business Model? Well let's take a look! They actually just spelled out here What's the website again? Mars-one.com. Mars One will be humankind's mission to mars when Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin landed on the moon, the whole world was watching too bad we don't have the video anymore in the next decade about 4 billion people will have access to video images mars one expects that virtually every one of them will watch when the first humans land on mars

2:27:01 Mars One intends to gain funds to send humans and cargo to Mars by using a variety of ways. As Mars One is private, not governmental initiative it gives anyone interested in the mission the possibility to cooperate in realizing the mission. The targeted means are as follows exclusive partnerships. Let's look at the partners who we have here. Oh, yeah, oh yeah we have good partners here We have Lockheed Martin, we've got Paragon Space Development, we've got Thales space this is great so it really is government money that's slush funded through

2:27:42 sponsorships, the maybe get no agenda on like a logo on the Mars or one of those pods. Yeah, no agenda pod here it is sales have broadcast rights? Yeah, this is really what oh and another part of their Business model says you're right in the list. Involvement with high net worth individuals? Yeah, that's your business model taking money from high net worth individuals but if you look down below their money is really coming majority from broadcast revenues and then they have domestic sponsorship ticketing licensing and they expect to do three

2:28:28 point, it was $8 million just in up until I guess they start to build the mission training mission. Now if you want to stop me for a second here because i'm looking at their page and reading this It seems to me, of course they get this little sales pitch and they say astronaut selection and preparation. In a thousand years they say everyone on Earth will still remember...if there's anyone left on Earth by the way, will still remember who the first humans on Mars were more than 200,000 men and women from around the world responded to the first call for astronauts. So let me get this straight

2:29:14 Supposedly, and I actually believe this is possible. 200 thousand people decide they would rather take a one-way trip to Mars than continue living their life the way they're living it whatever it is which seems like a bigger threat than these ISIS recruiters and Kerry should say something about this! These people are dangerous! These people are crazy Here I'd rather take a one-way trip to Mars that continue this crappy job and Google. This reality show, and again if you look at the people who are involved...this is this is a reality show they're selling the broadcast rights They will build several earth based simulation outposts for training technology tryouts an evaluation This is what's called selling the format so it probably would be first

2:30:07 televised version will be in the Netherlands and they'll have these pods, and it'll be Big Brother meets Survivor meets... what is it? Expedition Robinson. It's all the same thing But for some reason this has grasped the mainstream media, and is all in on believing that this is real. And people are volunteering to go to Mars! One way... That's my best part of it. What if you want to come back? No, no. I've decided to take an optionless life! I'm going to make a decision that i cannot rescind ever It's like getting a tattoo by the way So this is from the Austin paper If chosen Van Meter will have to leave her director position at Austin Bay Stanford Caskey Her family and home planet for good The potential colony will be permanent one meaning the Mars One crew will not returning to Earth

2:31:06 She's a hero. There are still few obstacles that Van Meter must face before she can call Mars her new home. Dubbed the Mars 100, Van Meter and the rest of the finalists will take on a series of team-building tests and simulations... all of which will be the focus of a reality series! In a moving column in Texas Monthly, Van Meter's husband Jason Stanford discusses the potential voyage and the loss of his wife. This has got to be great for married couple! Honey I'm sick of this relationship iIm going to Mars on a one-way trip. I will mourn her a million times before she dies You know if somebody went to Paris on a one way trip I think it would make some sense. This is so good

2:31:51 I will mourn her a million times before she dies. I will not like any of this, but i love her and this is the horizon worth crossing Like those astronaut wives before me, I shall man up." Oh god He didn't say that Yes it's right here! He said I'll man UP? Yeah like those astronaut wives before me, I will man up Oh fist bump Amen fist bump brother yay My goodness, and serious people. I mean are they morons? Yeah, I guess why am I even asking? Yes they are but if anybody's all in on this bull crap and you brought this up the way just did oh yeah negative Nelly here you yeah yeah i suppose you don't believe in global warming either. I got an interesting letter from somebody that was kind of like brought up a point I had never considered ah I know exactly what this is yes so I'm gonna read it this is from one

2:32:50 producers, Zach Brown. Have you... Hey John and Adam have you seen a dramatic rise or I haven't seen the dramatic arise with my friends on social media that are being sucked into the propaganda of science especially with the movement of mandated vaccinations? Yeah, well we talked about the adult vaccination program and all the rest of it last show. Every time someone starts yakking about how we need government legislation to force vaccinations in order to save helpless children who are vulnerable and could die I tend to find them to be pro-choice as well

2:33:27 But you mentioned, if you mention all the discussion once I asked them how they could someone can, someone who is adamantly pro-choice completely disregards their own beliefs when applied to vaccinations. According to them government should stay out of my body right? Then the conversation ends. Right! Thanks for a great show that keeps me sane I never considered that, but that is a good one. That many of the people who are because they're all in for government this and governments control the schools and you know federal Trump state and all the rest of the nonsense and they're all pro-choice but oh we need vaccinations! We have to there should be government mandated

2:34:10 It's just exactly right. It's crazy, this is the insanity of people who are politically left-right or anything that they're solidly entrenched in and they don't think on a broader sense than what you try to do on our show. Yeah it's all it's a bit like if you believe in climate change and manmade global warming resulting in climate change there's a high probability someone who really is all in on that also believes in peak oil At which point I say, why don't worry? It's all going to end. It doesn't matter. Yeah this is the knee jerk checklist version you said checklists for the right and checklist for the left and once you start being on one of those check-check-check-check the boxes it makes it very difficult to have a reasonable conversation with anybody else besides the group that would you've subscribed too well I'm very worried though about this just turning into

2:35:09 calling people science deniers and... Oh yeah, no if you don't like this Mars thing. You're denying science! Yes! You probably don't believe in evolution. Is that Mars rover still in New Mexico? Did they stop sending stuff back? Well I once shot the picture of the dead cow head that was on their end of it. Bill Clinton was on some forum And he said something that I thought was interesting about, uh... He was—I think it was saying you know hey Mexico there's a lot of crap and we actually were responsible for some of it. It was about the war on drugs and just listen to the actual words he's using here. I know you're frustrated. I wish you had no narco-trafficking but it's not really your fault basically We did too good a job taking transportation out of air and water

2:36:04 We ran an overland. I apologize for that. What? Yeah! Play that again, what did he even say?! We took the transportation out of the air and water to another transporting illegal drugs? I apologize, we did too good a job of stopping the drug trade from Mexico to the United States over air and water. And instead we ran it over land sorry about that as though he's part of it. Frustrated? I wish you had no narco trafficking but it's not really your fault basically We did too good a job taking transportation out of the air and water

2:36:46 And so we ran an overland. I apologize for that." Is he like the Midian cartel now? Well, they were long gone and now we have...I had this clip on the last show before at least two shows ago and it was just never got to playing it which is Guzman being a arrested, and then a whole bunch of Sinaloa guys going down. And this has not been discussed by us since we had the accusation by that guy was arrested and brought to Chicago who claims that the Sinaloa cartel is in bed with the Justice Department. If you could find that clip it would be nice at least a little background on Guzman. Let's see what I have here. It's called what? Guzman. Guzman and...the prosecutor?

2:37:32 I don't know, maybe. Or will it continue? Does it make a difference? Is that the one? No. I don't know what that is then. Well Guzman brought down the cartel...I was thinking about this and I wish had that clip but the cartel seems to be under duress Especially when, you know a couple years ago when they made these accusations that the whole thing was a scam and we were running guns. Our people were running guns I'm almost of the opinion that the deal fell apart because once that American agent was shot by one of these guns Right That they said you guys can't even keep your act together down there We're gonna...you know And just decided to take them out I don't know who's run into drugs now

2:38:18 I think it was our guys who just said, you know what? We can't put up with this. You've embarrassed us." They got guys trying...they were indicting Holder. They're putting a contempt of Congress. They haven't pursued it because the prosecutors in Washington DC can't, they just won't do it but I think this is a payback and we will discuss this more on a future show. Yeah, it's one of those things that's cropped up and wow okay! I do like catching them and just making note of it. With the no agenda, I always call it no agenda thinking we can come up with these alternate conclusions which actually make more sense

2:39:06 Meanwhile, Ashley... Ash- Ashley. Everyone's calling him Ash. Ash. Yeah. Ashton. It's Ashton I think it's Ashton. It's Ashley which is a girl's name No it's Ashton! Not Ashley. Oh, I thought was Ashley? No, it's Ashton. Oh he's not Ashley, he's Ashton huh? But we just call him Ash So they call him Ash Mmhmm the big ash They had something to say about apparently the idea that were gonna go in and out of this ISIS thing Well, he's the one that is waiting for the sign off of the authorization for use of military force. He's the one that is... In fact, the president did something very interesting. Let me see if I can find this there was a thing today. I saw some kind of memorandum thingy hold on where did that go? I'll play your ash clip and then I'll see if I could find this memorandum

2:39:54 The new US Defense Secretary Ash Carter has clarified that there is no time frame for the operation to recapture the Iraqi city of Mosul from ISIL. His comments came after two Republican senators criticized CENTCOM for revealing operational details That is one that will be Iraqi-led and the US supported, and it's important that it be launched at a time when it can succeed. And so I think the important thing is that it'll get done when it can be done successfully. Even if I knew exactly when that was going to be, I wouldn't tell you."

2:40:42 Because I'm now...I have clearance. I don't have to talk to you. Somebody asked a question from one of the outlets in this weird kind of petite... The guy's talking as a petite male. He looks like he is about 5'2", very thin, classic petite male. Like Richard Marx? Which is great! The clip is you and Guy with the lists. Your lists are perpetrators. What sort of impact if you decide to publish could that have? To date we have prepared

2:41:26 four lists which have been submitted to the UN High Commission for Human Rights for safekeeping in the safe. We are also considering today, this month and next month the pros and cons of whether or not to release the list I hope i'm not on the lists now The lists are a lists of war crimes supposedly that were being done by the Syrians And then this follow-up question which is Syria part two about the lists describing the Commission as biased. Are you worried that key officials of your government, of the military even the name of President Assad might be on that list? All this propaganda

2:42:11 aims at diabolising the Syrian government and misleading the public opinion. They did it in the past, and they will do it in the future." The Commission has repeatedly asked for the situation in Syria to be referred to the International Criminal Court That's never going to happen though because Russia will use its veto here in the Security Council. So now for the first time it is asking for the urgent consideration of setting up an ad hoc tribunal, a special court for Syria. Oh, interesting. Okay. We can't do the old fashioned way. Let's just set up a shagging report and let's find him guilty. Well here is the presidential memorandum the president signed which I have not seen anyone talk about but they have an RSS feed so it comes through and it's funny because it's called journalism. Presidential Memorandum Determination and Waiver

2:43:09 Pursuant to section 1209 of the Carl Levin and Howard P. Buck McKeon National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2015, this is important It's a setup, determination of waiver pursuant to the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of United States including section 1209 of the Carl Levin... Hereby I determine that sections 40 and 48 of the Arms Export Control Act section 2249A of title 10 U.S code and chapter 137 of title 10 US code would impede national security objectives of the United States By prohibiting, restricting, delaying or otherwise limiting the provision of assistance including training equipment supplies stipends What are stipends? Cash! Palace of money

2:44:01 construction of training and associated facilities, and sustainment to appropriately vetted elements of the Syrian opposition and other appropriately vetted Syrian groups and individuals. And I hereby waive said provisions of law to the extent necessary to allow the Department of Defense with the coordination of the Department of State to carry out the purposes of Section 1209 of the NDAA Fiscal Year 2015." And this is exactly how it was written. He just says, you know what? All bets are off! We can now... instead of not being allowed to send all of that stuff including pallets of money You can now do it. You Carrie and you Ash, you guys go ahead and set it up. And it's pretty damn broad. Vetted appropriately vetted elements

2:44:54 Yeah, but right Didn't we do this and was called Iran Contra? And it was all wrong and now we did then it's okay appropriately better than back then that was an experiment. We didn't know what we were doing It wasn't all wrong yeah, I didn't do a very good job Yeah, yeah alright If you got one more I'd like to have my must just run this one out all right Because, you know the red carpet's starting. I have to be ready. Yeah gotta see what people are wearing who are you wearing today John? Who are you wearing? Are you wearing Croc? I'm wearing Target South Sudan this is a story that i just never heard anyplace else and i just thought i'd run it out there which is in South Sudan uh and by the way at the end

2:46:35 Oh boy. Okay, one last clip. Yeah okay I have RT again needling the uh...I just love these clips by the way Needling the British educational systems for being a bunch of A-hole censor oriented politically correct bozos Free speech in British university campuses is in danger of being silenced. A new survey shows UK educational institutions are pulling the plug on debates and societies they deem controversial, often going far beyond any legal requirement. RT's Polly Boyker investigates

2:47:13 They're supposed to be bastions of free speech, but according to new research Britain's universities are becoming citadels of censorship instead. A survey for Spiked magazine found that 80% of the UK's colleges had restricted freedom The sun's been banned from over 30. Well that's the place you should ban freedom of expression, schools and colleges this you can't have any free thought going on there people got to get programmed with all in the message what is going on? Free speech in British... Oh sorry didn't mean to roll it back that far damn. They seem controversial often going far beyond any legal requirement RTs Polly Boyker investigates

2:47:57 They're supposed to be bastions of free speech, but according to new research Britain's universities are becoming citadels of censorship instead. A survey for Spiked magazine found that 80% of the UK's colleges had restricted freedom expression. The sun's been banned from over 30 unis because the tabloid traditional page three feature contains topless models, sombreros and Native American outfits aren't welcome in Birmingham University they're deemed too racist and budding pole dancers should avoid Swansea University after the Student Union voted to outlaw all the fitness trend on campus because of its links to the sex industry

2:48:41 It's broadly, and from any type of political affiliation that could be seen as that bit offensive. And I think that is the most troubling thing A lot of students go to university because they want to get involved in politics Involved in kind-of political contestation Where now students are going and finding That they can't form societies that they want to They can't hold controversial debates For example, students at Oxford University didn't get to discuss abortion after a debate by a pro-life pressure group was shelved because the university's women's campaign threatened to disrupt it. Comedian Kate Smirthwaite's stand up show at Goldsmiths University was scrapped the day before it was meant to take place. Ironically, it was about free speech. Suddenly it was cancelled I would get that if we were talking about you know these sort of extreme

2:49:28 You know, I've heard about people having sort of extremist fundamentalists Muslim speakers who demand that the audience be segregated by gender. But we're not talking about that We're talking about feminists and social justice campaigners and human rights campaigner being told oh well you know we think that your attitude towards this is the wrong one Last summer University College London's Nietzsche Club put posters around the university the could encourage fascism. In fact, the wrong attitude could also get students into trouble with the law. The government's new counter-terrorism and security bill obliges lecturers to report students they think can be drawn towards terrorism." Oh my God! You know I had this this morning. And with this report have been this...I'll just read this to you. François Hollande has pushed through a new legislation in France

2:50:35 forcing internet service providers to block terrorist or child pornography content within 24 hours, or face potential fines. So whatever that means. How do you do that? Yeah, well website blog or whatever it is but and I was watching the clip of Bill Clinton and i thought for a moment...I thought because I get most of my clips from the web unlike you get a lot of your stuff from from the TV itself You got your whole setup there Most of my stuff comes from web-based things And I thought but even if it was from the tv maybe none of this is real Maybe this is just a big game

2:51:12 Like the Matrix, you know? It's just... Who knows! How can I know if any of it is real anymore. Does that make any sense? No. That's good. I like it though Maybe this all just fake, I don't know This is the Codeine finally kicking in Ladies and gentlemen, okay Party! Alright everybody Okay Well we're going to Keep the feet on the street, boots on the ground and ankles behind the ears to make sure we... What? Feet in the water. To make sure that uh.. We are on the lookout for you as guardians of reality I'm the prophet known as Adam Curry And the lack of profit

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