Episode 688 · Sunday, 18 January 2015

Threat Stream

Diplomatic blunders in Paris meet military deployments in Brussels as the surveillance state leverages new threat streams to justify expanded domestic spying and FISA renewals.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 48m listen | 36 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 688

About this episode

Secretary of State John Kerry and musician James Taylor visited Paris to meet President Francois Hollande following the Charlie Hebdo attacks, an event marked by an awkward public embrace and a performance of You've Got a Friend. This diplomatic gesture coincided with massive anti-terror raids across Belgium, France, and Germany, resulting in over 20 arrests and the first deployment of Belgian troops in Brussels for 35 years. Authorities continue to search for Abdelhamid Abaoud while media narratives focus on the radicalization of the Kouachi brothers.

Intelligence reports link the Paris attackers to Anwar al-Awlaki, the late imam once invited to the Pentagon as a moderate. House Speaker John Boehner cited the FISA surveillance program as the key to foiling a recent U.S. Capitol plot, though public social media activity appears to be the actual trigger. Meanwhile, Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson announced heightened airport security due to nonmetallic explosive threat streams. In the private sector, Clint Eastwood and Leon Panetta are revealed to share a board at the Panetta Institute, alongside media figures Cokie Roberts and Bob Schieffer, raising questions about journalistic conflicts of interest.

John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry dissect the media's repetitive use of formal naming conventions for the Prophet Muhammad while mocking the latest personal assistant robot PR stunts for the film Chappie. The duo explores the hypocrisy of French free speech arrests and the bizarre claims of magical shape-shifting Jews circulating in Parisian suburbs. The show concludes with a look at the $4 billion failure of Afghan opium eradication and a Lithuanian survival manual for a Russian invasion.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

Prophet Muhammad Naming Conventions and Podcast Awards

John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry open the show discussing the media's repetitive use of the title "The Prophet Muhammad" and joke about adopting similar formal monikers for themselves. They briefly mention the upcoming podcast awards, noting their historical lack of success in winning them compared to unlikely events like winning Miss USA.

prophet muhammad· adam curry· john c. dvorak· podcast awards· miss usa

00:00 Turning us into Canadians. And I'm from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm fogged in. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning... I'm sorry, I didn't mean to throw you for a loop. You did, you threw me for a loop. Everyone is saying The Prophet Muhammad so I think- Are you turning into A. Curry? Well everyone is saying The Prophet Muhammad So I figured that could be the podcaster A. Curry Okay We should also say Jesus, the son of Christ Jesus

00:50 You didn't need this the podcaster a curry I Think the bat signals broken by the way for some reason yes, somebody mentioned that on the tweeters. No no what's going on? I'm guys just he'll help you fix it Do you know but have you noticed this everyone saying the Prophet Muhammad? The Prophet Mohammed. Actually, I'll notice it now but i have not yet. Oh man! Yeah you just sit there and wonder can't you just say their holy man? Their god... no the guy who talked about the God uh their Moses would he be like are they're Moses No all right The Prophet Mohammed, the podcaster A Curry, the podcaster Dvorak see that sounds good the pod curry is too short but the podcaster Dvorak

01:37 Sounds good. Yeah, it does I think they'll take on that moniker and by the way the podcasting awards are coming up You hope people out there nominate us Every single year we give it another try yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah tonight We have more chance of winning miss USA than we do a podcast award well you never know it could happen things can change Yes boozer to you no pretty good yeah Yeah, everyone's talking French these days. It's the big thing you know? Well good people need to talk more French And we were so disappointed with Jean Carrey With his uh...with his French I really was astounded how poor his French really is Mad to the bone yeah and not only that this is this is how Carrey thinks The Carey is seriously hello 1970 We would like our musical icons back

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

John Kerry, Francois Hollande, and James Taylor in Paris

Secretary of State John Kerry visited Paris to meet with President Francois Hollande following the Charlie Hebdo attacks, resulting in an awkward public embrace. To compensate for the absence of top U.S. officials at the unity march, Kerry brought musician James Taylor to perform "You've Got a Friend." The discussion transitions into European social customs, specifically the practice of three-cheek kissing in the Netherlands and Belgium.

john kerry· francois hollande· james taylor· paris· netherlands· social etiquette

02:35 So, um... Cary has to go to Paris to give Olan the big hug. Which he did! I don't know if you saw that video? Very uncomfortable- Oh very uncomfortable. Oh yeah, Cary's like trying- Did he hold him to his blizzard? Yes!! Yeah and Olan is like what?? And you're like- His head pushed to the side. You know how you go in for a cheek kiss and do the wrong one and your lips almost touch because you're both trying to go for the same cheek That's kind of what happened. That's kind of what happened to them Whoops! I'm gonna call you back, Joe We got like this Simplex thing going on for a second Hold on a second, I'll call you back It won't take but a minute Won't have to edit a single thing We just want to improve your experience There we go Just wanna make it better Yeah Hey, did you change your icon again? Now why are you this? You're the only person I know who changes the art on his Skype every other week Why

03:34 Why do you do this to me so John Kerry? Does does this whole thing with his uncomfortable hug and he brings him in again. He's like a Gamma double hug yeah kind of huh Yeah, and John Kerry had something to do with like how you supposed to go when you're in certain parts of Europe You kiss both sides you know yes or three or three more three Well yeah I guess you could do three the Netherlands is big on three kisses Three three yeah Well, how's it go right left right or right left? That kind of both. That's the whole thing that depends on who is the dominant player in the in the embrace It's an embrace and a kiss yeah you so I like to grab people by the shoulders And then I can steer them well. It's like your granting him honors or something Please do not smudge my sash Yeah So Carrie goes to this huh

04:36 It's kiss, kiss, kiss. You're kidding me? No in the Netherlands... One too many kisses! It's interesting that people you don't know um it depends on the setting but if it was let's say I'm meeting uh my friend's best friend and she's female then I would say oh and and my friend- Just trying to get a cheap extra kiss in. No no I'm not really- That's terrible Nevermind, I won't explain it then. No no! I want to hear it here...I need to know this because I'm obviously making a mistake is my thinking was that there's always either one or two depending on the culture? I've never heard three you're completely blowing my mind Okay so one but I do one here in America One unless I wanted show that I'm from Europe

05:22 Oh, excuse me. I was doing two we are so used to this. You get another cheek? Yeah! I'm sorry to be holding on to you a little longer than appropriate but i need the other cheek it's...I'm from Europe. Does that include a slap on the butt? yeah. I am from Europe! I can put the slap you in the butt. This is exactly..this is our custom. It is our culture please do not mess with us. One on the cheeks and one of the butt exactly No, but it's I'm serious. I've never heard that well. It's true in the Netherlands it is it is actually the If you know someone if you really don't know someone You're going to kiss them more than if you do know someone So if you know someone you very familiar hey done And and men still occasionally kiss there's some men that I kiss on the cheek in Europe

06:16 Occasionally I've seen that yeah, but that's re no not through. No no dude what are you doing? Hey back off Back off jerk-off nothing good happen all right so Kerry does this very uncomfortable thing and when you look at his face on profile in Profile it is really his mouth isn't in chin It's also flat and you can just It looks like if you're close to him, I'll bet he has those white strands of goo in the corner of his mouth. So that's why Olanda is like, ugh! Ugh! Get back away from me crazy American and so... To make up for this incredible faux pas of missing out not having our president or vice-president or even our Secretary of State marching in solidarity in the little enclave known as The Leaders Of The Free World who for our four free speech

07:13 He brought James Taylor. What? James Taylor, yes he brought James Taylor to sing You've Got a Friend I think James Taylor lives in Paris He brought James Taylor to the podium to the whole affair. Why? To say, I'm sorry... You've got a friend France you are our friend. Oh man! And here's the tail end of it. Hey James, James, I know him but you gotta come over man these fucking friends they're like freaking out look man just do me a solid just sing and say something in French at the end okay Just say something in French All ya gotta do is call

07:58 You've got a friend in French. Yeah, geez that's so pathetic you bring Jay-Z or something James Taylor maybe that maybe someone said hey you should bring Jayzee yeah James good James good idea he didn't hear it right That is back to this three kisses thing It's only in Holland. You've never heard of this has not existed anywhere else this Belgium Oh the Belgian Bellas the blue bells yeah, Belgium And mark and I wouldn't know I don't think I've ever been to Denmark. I've been to Sweden. They've been in Norway I do think Denmark is pretty

CHAPTER 03 / 36 Discussion

Denmark Happiness Myths and Obama's India Visit

A report suggests that despite being a model for American liberals due to free education and healthcare, the population of Denmark suffers from high rates of depression. Meanwhile, President Barack Obama prepares for a high-security visit to India to celebrate Independence Day alongside Prime Minister Narendra Modi, a move criticized as a potential security risk.

denmark· barack obama· narendra modi· india· security· liberalism

08:56 It's pretty, everyone is depressed in Denmark. Well that could be but the place itself is great I think it was reading an article where was it? Might have been The Times Everybody is depressed in Denmark Yeah no it was about Denmark and how liberal thinkers certainly in the United States always say oh Denmark you know they got school is free everybody has got the same amount of money Taxes are outrageous Nobody is better than the other person everybody is equal there is free health care there is I free everything and everybody's depressed. There is really that we don't get any donations from Denmark Rarely, I think we have one cool thing. That's a good point. It's a good point the very good point It says they're depressed issue listen to our show and they'd live it up in a heartbeat by the way So I haven't said possible prediction here or something yet? I think something bad is gonna happen

09:49 Wow, John. Do you need a whole book page for this to put this in? And do you think it would be something here in America worth doing?" No no I think Obama going to India to take part in their Independence Day celebration that's not find a good clip for to play right is I think is just the bad idea. I think it's a security problem Well the first problem that I've been following because of course, I come from the region is what it? No, I do not come from India. Now. I come from the European region Yeah, this is where things are actually happening Unless you want to pardon do you want to move on more about India or you want to stay in? No, no I just think he's going to this thing to be before it's like a big deal And then there's a bunch of had some clips saying all these good buddies with Modi. You know why is because bullcrap no its Pierre Omni car drive my cars guy is Is the personal advisor to Modi? I didn't know this yes We've talked about it a couple times on the show

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

European Anti-Terror Raids and Belgian Military Deployment

Authorities across Belgium, France, and Germany conducted massive anti-terror raids, arresting over 20 individuals. Belgian troops were deployed to the streets of Brussels and Antwerp for the first time in 35 years to provide "static defense" for sensitive sites like the European Commission and synagogues. Police continue to search for Abdelhamid Abaoud, a suspected cell leader believed to be in Greece.

belgium· brussels· abdelhamid abaoud· greece· terror raids· static defense

10:47 Yeah, Pierre Omnicar guys. He I think it was he's a general manager of something or the of the Meteor Institute thing philanthropy whatever We're on our top game today folks. No, I know that this guy... Right exactly This is what's happening in Europe though And I found this to be very interesting to then read how the Dutch are dealing with it Europe is on high alert following anti-terror raids since several countries across Belgium France and Germany more than 20 people have been arrested on terrorism related charges Belgium has become the latest country to deploy troops after five people were charged with participating in the activities of a terrorist group. Which means, what is that? Is that running around with flags in white shoes and driving Toyotas? What exactly is participating in terrorism? Toyota trucks with machine guns on the back

11:43 Belgian authorities are looking for this man, 27-year old Abdelhamid Abaoud who lived in Brussels before reportedly going to fight in Syria. He's now thought to be in Greece. Abaoud is suspected of having links to a terrorist cell that was dismantled during raids in the eastern town of Verviers on Thursday night Police in Germany have also stepped up security after receiving warnings of a heightened risk of attacks on central railway stations, specifically in Berlin and Dresden. The warnings followed the arrests of two men in anti-terror raids on Friday. Everywhere on every TV news channel I'm seeing these maps of Europe and now they keep mentioning the Netherlands

12:27 Oh, the Netherlands. Oh yes, the Netherlands. Anything could happen and of course... By the way what's happened? Well nothing! Has there been a... has anyone attacked anything? No no. Is there been a secondary attack or are they ganging up on old ladies? Anything going on? I can tell you the population, the Dutch population is so confused because their politicians are saying, Yes we must be vigilant meanwhile Belgium now you have to understand it's like Dallas in Houston It's kind of the same country you can get there in and depending on from Amsterdam. You get to Belgium walk backwards So it's very close by the languages are similar, you know That's like Dallas news is it truly? Is that kind of compare languages are similar similar we use the same money but they've got gotten you know, The military on the streets

13:22 And the Dutch, I don't even think they have a military anymore. They're out looking for the bicycles from 50 years ago and the Dutch if you read online comments on these news articles of course they are online comments people are...they just do not understand why is their government not doing anything similar to the neighbors? And they say, everyone feels it can only be a matter of time before something happens in the Netherlands. Which is not uncommon! The first really big Muslim things happened there with Theo van Gogh. Yeah yeah when was that? 2000-2001 Oh yeah this is a long time ago. 13 years ago! Now I understand why you mock and why you scoff but the Netherlands is of course a prime... well look they're great you know you can blow a plane out of the sky

14:16 And no one complains about it. Yeah, well... It's been six months! No black box. Whatever happened to the black box? Which they did recover. Yes. So what was there for- What did the reports say? I have not seen them. You're an aviation expert, I want to know As the resident raviation expert, I have not seen a report. I have only read that people... What? ...I'm going to tell you! I've read that people who have seen the results of the black box say it is consistent with massive decompression and some form of penetration from the hull outside. Duh! What is doesn't say is yeah, that was a Buk missile launcher from Russia

14:58 But they're trying to, that's of course there is something in there that is not good for the rest of the world to know so we are never really actually going to see it. Well that sucks! This works in closely with Greece where apparently there are also all kinds of Muslim terrorists and Greece pretty much dead now but might as well throw some terrorism on him. Athens and a night in custody for four terror suspects being held by Greek police one was initially thought to be the ringleader of an Islamist militant cell in Belgium, but the authorities there are now saying they do not believe that wanted man is among those being held

15:42 The arrests come as Europe remains on a heightened terror alert. For the first time in more than 35 years, troops are on the streets of the Belgian capital. Around 300 have been deployed in Brussels and Antwerp to guard sensitive sites among them the European Commission building, the US Embassy and synagogues It's a deployment of, for the moment two companies of defense in support of the National Police Force. The tasks that have been given is a task of static defense of specific locations and to the people on these locations." Static Defense. You have time for a long clip? You can interrupt it as much as you want but I want to play it. Sure

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

Charlie Hebdo Suspects and Youth Radicalization Narratives

Media reports detail the decade-long radicalization of the Kouachi brothers, the suspects in the Charlie Hebdo shooting, claiming they were known to French intelligence since 2005. The narrative focuses on their upbringing as orphans and their recruitment by radical clerics. High youth unemployment in the European Union is cited as a primary driver for young men seeking purpose by joining conflicts in Syria.

charlie hebdo· kouachi brothers· radicalization· syria· unemployment· surveillance

16:33 So I'm watching, uh...I don't know what this was. It was either France 20—it was one of the—meh, it may have been France 24 or whatever the case. This is the, um… This is the real-time dossier with a meme at the end, which I didn't realize was a meme until i heard it in this report because I've been hearing this. The meme which you've heard too... The modernity? No no no not that. The meme is it takes 25 to 35 cops to surveil one guy Oh yeah oh yeah of this is a Giuliani thing

17:13 Right, that's where I think you're right. Giuliani because we need more cops and we need more money. More money is what it amounts to but this meme shows up here so this cock...this is a cock and bull story about the French guys who shot up Charlie Hebdo and then took over the grocery store, and how they were intertwined for years apparently. The French are all over this! For a decade? And then they... so they unwind this French real-time dossier I'm listening to this, this is a long clip you have to interrupt it. I am listening to this saying that this is bull crap! Zarif and his older brother Saeed sons of Algerian immigrants were orphaned at a young age It already sounds like the Tsarnaev brothers doesn't it? Yeah right Bull crap backgrounder yeah I'm still trying to get over

18:11 The ID card in the automobile was priceless You got an ID card you can leave behind What was it doing out? Oh, we had to go through a toll booth or something and show you I don't know what the point of that He was buying cigarettes. Yeah, he got ID'd They grew up in a center for vulnerable and troubled youngsters Saif was interested in hotel management Sharif hoped to be an engineer. There was some training, but not much success or sense of place or purpose This peaceful park in the neighborhood of Bout-Chemin changed that It's here that the process of radicalization seems to have begun About a decade ago A group of young Muslim men wouldn't care for jogging and other sports In 2005 these guys were already known by the cops there

19:05 But they were coming with a man from this neighborhood, a self-taught radical cleric. Ah! Self taught radical cleric? And senator To a nearby mosque and plans are being laid to recruit young men to go and fight against American troops in Iraq. Farid Baniyatou was the mentor. By the way I will say of all the reporting that i've seen...I have watched it an incredible amount over the past 48 hours No doubt no doubt particularly in France, but I can see it happening in Spain. I can see it happening all over the EU No doubt if you everyone has is out of a job the youth unemployment is so incredibly high You know it's like we're just sitting around Hey, hey, I got an idea let's go to Syria Let's go fight doesn't even matter just go fight somebody yeah whatever

19:59 I think you can convince anybody to do that within a week. Probably Hey, we're pretty damn good convincing kids to join the US armed services to go protect our freedoms Yeah In fact, the guy who that Kyle...the mysterious death of that sniper, the American sniper guy. They brought...by the way I don't know if this is just to take a little side trip here. I'm starting to notice on C-SPAN they did an interview with a guy a year before he died and then on NBC News they had this guy there did an interview about it with him a year before he died

CHAPTER 06 / 36 Discussion

Clint Eastwood, American Sniper, and Panetta Institute

Clint Eastwood is noted for his strategic promotion of the film "American Sniper" ahead of the Academy Awards, utilizing old interviews of the late Chris Kyle. Eastwood and his wife are revealed to be on the board of advisors for the Panetta Institute, a California-based think tank founded by former CIA Director Leon Panetta.

clint eastwood· american sniper· chris kyle· leon panetta· oscars· panetta institute

20:37 the Kyle character who wrote The American Sniper. And I'm watching this over and over again, the guy did have some interesting stories about how he was recruited but this is Clint Eastwood at his absolute best getting pre-promotion for the Oscars! If he wins because he's I've only seen a couple of these. I know they're all over the place because Eastwoods an old Hollywood pro yes He knows how these awards work, and he's got to be hires the best people And they are dropping this old interview of a dead guy yeah for all or the place not to jump the gun on another segment But I was looking at Leon Panetta's new civil thing which is the panetta Institute

21:20 Which is a think tank of course out here. I think it's in California and guess who's on the board of advisors Who Clint Eastwood? Oh, oh and his wife. Oh yeah, oh yeah Of course of course all right Let's go back to this French thing a janitor in his 20s whose real interest was jihad that of course I mean you can't be interested in all janitors Yeah We need to screen all janitors now kids parents tell your kids to keep an eye out for that janitor That guy Some jogging and weapons training didn't amount to much but Francis Le Monde newspaper called it the first school for Gerard This group became known by security services as the boot Shaman Network One of the leaders was this self-taught Imam Farid Benyattou These guys are all homeschooled man

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

Anwar al-Awlaki and the Surveillance Resource Meme

Intelligence reports link the Charlie Hebdo attackers to Anwar al-Awlaki and Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP). A recurring media "meme," potentially originated by Rudy Giuliani, claims it takes 20 to 30 officers to surveil a single suspect 24/7, serving as a justification for why surveillance on the attackers was dropped six months prior to the incident.

anwar al-awlaki· aqap· surveillance· rudy giuliani· intelligence· yemen

22:21 Benyettou met Sharif Kouachi in 2004 at the local mosque. One year later, Kouachi was part of the network and was arrested preparing to leave for Syria en route to Iraq. Then during his time in prison he met Ahmed Coulibaly who is serving time for armed robbery It's believed that in prison both men met another key figure in their radicalization Jamel Begal He's a French-Algerian jihadist jailed in 2001 for a planned attack on the US Embassy in Paris. And there is another key meeting, during the Charlie Hebdo attack, the Kawashi brothers say they're part of an Al Qaeda network that has

23:05 Now, there's a lot of stuff in here that is background that I'm not sure how they know this. Where did they get this from? That's the question I am asking! This is very peculiar that they have all this information... Yeah to almost to the minute oh and then on Tuesday while having lunch in prison he met another man It truly is exactly like all the dramatizations we've seen of The Boston Bombing Brothers Yeah, this is the music and then with it. This how did they go black and white and all like security cam footage and stuff? Well they had a lot of b-roll that was just a brand or just be roll yeah Yeah A lot of B roll like people in the desert training And there were no later industry part as you'll hear they talk about I know we have surveillance photos of the guys Years ago, I want to hear it on here al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula for a qap

23:53 In 2009, Saeed Qawashi had traveled to Yemen to receive training. He met the charismatic American-born cleric Anwar al-Awlaki. It's almost like they pull this thing off and then they send an old tattered kind of frayed script to the media. They had one name and put in another, but they had an Alawakian. Gotta get that in there. Who was then leading AQAP because that justifies killing an American citizen without due process is so obvious. No it's a subtle, one more subtle hint that it was okay

24:30 justification. Al-Awlaki later killed in an American drone strike and repeatedly called for attacks against Western targets that included the killing of cartoonists who insult the Prophet Muhammad I never heard this by the way from al Awlaki, I've never heard that from him The killing a cartoonist! I don't believe i've seen that video Maybe he mentioned it at his luncheon speaking gig at the Pentagon. Yes, we'll try to clip about that too How annoying is it that these things happen but yet are never really brought back up by the media? You know It's like I saw some official guy some lieutenant general say he was not a cleric He was a fake cleric! He was a speaker at the Pentagon and had a luncheon Doesn't anyone find that peculiar

25:24 He's not just some random guy. I have been a lot of places in my life Let me think no pentagon haven't received an invitation recently you No, no, no i wonder why? Not radical relationship with jamal begal that brought the kawachi brothers and culibaly onto the radar or the french security services after they were released from prison These surveillance photographs just released show the three men regularly met Beghal in the south of France. He was widely connected, considered one of the main recruiters for Al Qaeda in Europe he'd also spent time in London but when a trail of suspicious activity by the Kuatchi brothers and Koulibaly seemed to tail off so six months ago did the surveillance why?

26:10 It's very simple. It's because there are many more people like him than the raw resources, you know? it takes 20 to 30 police officers to track a suspect 24-7 Right so they were on him yeah They're on his case but they had to stop because he didn't have enough guys Didn't have enough money Yeah, guys money same thing. We can have our own little spooky music and we talk about these things so the thing I was following So here's what I've been following

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

Anti-Semitism Claims and Magical Shape-Shifting Jews Conspiracy

MSNBC reports on conspiracy theories circulating in the Paris suburbs where some residents claim the Charlie Hebdo attacks were a Zionist plot to disparage Muslims. One extreme theory mentioned by a journalist involves "magical shape-shifting Jews" acting as master manipulators. This is contrasted with the 2009 firing of a Charlie Hebdo cartoonist for alleged anti-Semitic content, highlighting perceived double standards in free speech.

charlie hebdo· anti-semitism· msnbc· mossad· conspiracy theories· zionism

26:48 First of all, the whole Muslim Jew Palestine Israel Arab Jew Zionist this is everywhere now and it's not just me observing it. It truly is showing up everywhere here's a story Let me see who wrote this where this was published about a cartoonist in 2009 who worked at Charlie Hebdo, who was fired for his anti-Semitic cartoons mocking the relationship of Sarkozy's son with some wealthy Jewish woman. And so he is now out and about running around saying hey what is this? Freedom of speech bull crap as long it's not about the Jews!

27:41 Then there is the... Actually, I may have a clip that kind of relates to that but go on. Well here's the clip that i had which i just love from MSNBC and it's very hard to get stuff from MSNBC because really nobody watches anymore so no one is saying oh yeah hey man there's something you need to watch except maybe for from The Rev guy still people watch him that's crazy This is MSNBC mocking the theory that is now prevalent in places around Paris, that this was an Israeli plot.

28:19 It wasn't Israeli plot, that is Mossad. Well they don't mention Mossad but even better here get ready for it There are serious doubts about what really was behind last week's attacks Dana Kennedy is a Paris based American journalist for the Daily Beast she has written about this and she joins me from Paris You talked to some of these French Muslims who say this was all conspiracy What do they mean? Well, I went out to what they call the suburbs of France which are not what Americans think of as suburbs They're really the housing projects. It's the same here darling The suburbs in America are now also housing projects. They're outside Paris and there are a couple areas inside Paris where a lot of poor Muslims live, and I talked to a cross-section of mainly French Algerian young men who said to me it was pretty much they felt the attacks were actually a conspiracy by the Jews to make Muslims look bad

29:12 And they told me that, one person told me that in fact they weren't just regular Jews doing this. In fact they were a race of magical Jews, shape-shifting Jews who were master manipulators and could be everywhere at any time. At the same time. That's what I'm talking about. Wow, magical shape shifting Jews man. Uh huh? And they even bother to report this. This is your MSNBC people come on man magical shapeshifting Jewish shapeshifting brother something I could have come up with yeah no in the second half of the show I would expect it and then there's this email I love this but i've just been looking at the conspiracy stuff

29:52 Yeah, Zionists behind insulting Prophet Muhammad. This is from the vice chairman of the Assembly of Experts Ayatollah Syed Mohammed Sharoudi. So the Muslims who want no part in this they're the ones running around saying hey man this is the Jews it's the Zionist they're trying to make us look bad The magical Jews who can shapeshift. I need to get me a pair of those, just in the house. Can you change into a pair of shoes? Pumps! Play my clip... This is a freedom-of-speech clip of sorts this is I'm not Charlie in Paris Okie dokie.

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

French Free Speech Hypocrisy and Eleanor Clift

Following a massive march for free speech in Paris, French authorities arrested 54 people for "hate speech," including comedian Dieudonné. On the McLaughlin Group, Eleanor Clift defended the arrests, arguing that Europe has tougher laws against hate speech than the U.S. Critics point out the hypocrisy of marching for the right to insult religion while simultaneously criminalizing other forms of offensive speech.

free speech· eleanor clift· dieudonné· hate speech· mclaughlin group· france

30:57 No, he's talking about France. He says there are rules against anti-Semitic speech I'm sorry...I thought he said in America? I was like what?! In the United States or...? He is claiming that we have better free speech than their free speech Yeah But this is a GAN you know just uh... Let me hear it! I wanna hear it! Oh oh What just happened Are you still there? Yeah I thought it was powerful moment. Here we go about free speech where there it is different And then free speech the principles of free speech as exercised here in the United States There are certain limitations particularly in regards to anti-semitic speech things like that There's been an arrest this week of a comedian for antisemitic remarks and how How is she comes playing out in France now?

31:40 This is the argument. What's going to happen and what's going to happen with people who perpetrate... Wait a minute, who is this? This is this crazy we had her on before Who is this woman? The woman with the most extreme French accent I've ever heard on television Oh right right right yes Accent I want Yes It's so over-the-top that I almost can't believe it's real Yeah Let me tell you a little bit about what she says You're more fool, you're crazy, American Beyond that Anti-Semitism The problem we see in France at this moment especially is... Hey, could you take that penis out of me? You know what's funny about listening to her is that you can actually when you get into the rhythm of her voice. You can actually understand her Oh I understand exactly what she's saying Yeah Hey why don't you go give me some french fries? Hey kick the bitch ass! Today is what now uh the French people are calling the emotional hangover Hang-hover I have a emotional hangover like Diana Rosset

32:37 BLEH Let the woman speak! Something happened there. You don't know in which direction this country is going to go. Yes, the country seems really united. There was a lot of emotion. But nobody knows what's going to happen next, especially in the bad suburbs near Paris. We see especially in some classrooms young people from Muslim origin who are refusing to stand up for what happened last week in Paris They're saying now officially, I'm not Charlie. Of course it's the minority but it is happening and people are worried about this minority movement which begins in France. You know what? I have to say she put the cunt in country! Here tying right into that... This is our version of that woman in America Eleanor Clift

33:30 And Eleanor was on the McLaughlin group. I watched this show and i couldn't get a clip off it but you did! Oh come on, you didn't get this one? No! Eleanor Clift is well known from her love for our president as she knows he's a constitutional lawyer And she really, she knows a lot about the Constitution in particular about free speech in the United States. And the French clearly are much better at it! Two million people showed up in Paris another million in their countryside to recognize it. The next day they arrested 54 people for hate speech You know who didn't show up? That is an issue They're hypocrites They went and arrested this comedian This Cameroonian comedian who's famous over there for hate speech

34:18 After 4,000...4 million march for free speech. Free speech! That's totally mistaken but it shows the effort to find the line between what hate speech and free speech we have issues in this country and Europe has much tougher laws against hate speech than we have. Weed laws against hate speech wow I'm so you didn't see that didn't catch your ear? You know no She's a dingbat. I mean... Yes, but she is incredibly representative of an entire swath of American thinking! The left are pathetic Obama bots who are still robot-like roaming around. John here is the problem nobody on that show said excuse me Eleanor hate speech is also protected under free speech That was what I was waiting for no one knows. The old guys... No it shows scripted. Yeah scripted I know but what?

CHAPTER 10 / 36 Discussion

Anwar al-Awlaki's Pentagon History and Drone Strike Narratives

RT and Fox News' Catherine Herridge revisit the history of Anwar al-Awlaki, noting he was once invited to speak at the Pentagon as a "moderate" imam after 9/11. The narrative regarding the drone strike that killed his 16-year-old son has reportedly shifted from a cafe setting to a "barbecue" in an obscure region, a change suggested to make the use of lethal force appear more justifiable.

anwar al-awlaki· pentagon· fbi· drone strikes· yemen· catherine herridge

35:16 It's like hate crimes. Please! Alright, so I got just my end of this whole thing... Now you said that no one was talking about Al-Awlaki and all the rest of it doing what he used to do? That's not completely true because if you go to RT... Yeah, I was gonna say where did you go? You went to the well yeah. He went into the well. RT is always there to remind us What makes the story of Awolaki even more interesting is that at one time, he was held up by the Pentagon and the White House as being a moderate Muslim imam who had condemned the September 11th attacks. According to CBS News in the months after 9-11, Awolaki was invited as part of an informal outreach program in which officials sought contact with leading members of the Muslim community. The official said that at that time, Awolaki was widely viewed as a moderate imam at a mosque in Northern Virginia.

36:11 According to documents from the FBI found by Fox News an agent had heard the imam speak in Northern Virginia while she hold on a second Documents found and uncovered by Fox News really this is they have did they find something some incredible secret Which we've been talking about for nine. I don't know why he references Fox News This has been known fact it's gonna. I think it has to do with that little pixie girl She's the one that broke that story on Fox if I recall And she made a big deal. You know the little pixie girl? Any number of them No, it's the dark hair the brunette hair and the small some small short pixie Oh, Gilfoyle? no no no no Short short like pixie hair like uh... Gilfoyle is actually short Tinkerbell hair oh oh uh Perrine Perrine Perrine or the she's blonde? No no no no The brunette um I don't know of a short pixie brunette I'll think of it Except for that CIA woman

37:04 David, go on. Arrived late she recalls being impressed by this imam he condemned al-qaeda and the terrorist attacks During his talk he was harassed by members of the audience and suffered it well reads one document So what happened? How did a moderate imam in northern Virginia help to spawn Al Qaeda in Yemen And helped her radicalize so many young men in that country Well to answer that question we have to ask this one Who radicalized the radicalizer? In March of 2002, the FBI began raiding homes and offices of Muslim leaders in Virginia. Awolaki living in Northern Virginia at the time was upset by it and that month left the United States for Yemen. In August 2006, Awolaki was grabbed by Yemeni security. He was held and tortured for more than a year as part of his secret investigation

37:53 Yemeni officials said they arrested him with a group of five Yemenis suspected of kidnapping a Shiite teenager for money. Awalaki was accused of being the group's spiritual leader, he was released without trial after a year in prison In 2007 He was arrested again held for two weeks and then released without charges But it was in an interview afterward that Awalaki said It was clear that US government officials had asked Yemeni officials to do so In February 2008, US counter-terrorism officials linked Awolaki to terrorism but would not say why. And then in 2009 the US conducts a series of drone strikes in Yemen that kill large numbers of civilians Meanwhile was series have attempted terror attacks take place including as I mentioned before the failed underwear bomber and the Fort Hood shooting Catherine Harridge Yeah! The CIA woman You're right, Catherine Harridge That's her name Yeah this...this uh...Awolaki

38:50 framing, I would say. Not as in he was framed but just framing him up is... makes a lot of sense! If we had any hand in any of this somehow somewhere or certainly the media portion of it yeah get that in there what else you gonna do with this? Yeah! Let's not talk about the ID card left behind let's not talk about his shoes not being tied properly and his... Oh hold on man don't drive off yet lemme get my shoe He actually picked up his shoe. Yeah, I know i saw that yeah no Yeah, no. Now the other thing I noticed as I was watching RT for some of this stuff and they discussed his 16-year old son who Who is blowed up? Now my understanding was he was blowed up at a cafe with a couple of his buddies having some coffee They claim and I think this story is ever changing but now they claim He was blowed up at a barbecue It was a coffee shop but after it was blown up it was barbecue yeah

39:53 So I don't understand what the point of moving the venue is. I think the point was that they used to make the argument, Hayden and the other guys that were all for all this stuff would say we had to use the drones on these dangerous people, the dangerous 16 year old and his buddies. We had to use the drones because we couldn't find any way to grab them which we would have done if we could well then that kind of doesn't sound right if they're at a cafe sipping coffee because you could've just driven up and picked him But now he's at a barbecue in some obscure part of the country, which may be surrounded by armed terrorists. It makes it makes a little more sense. So I think we're losing the narrative where he was at a cafe and were picking up the narrative that he was at a barbecue.

40:38 I just wanted to alert you to that change in the script. the executive producers looked at this and said, look there's an argument. We have to deal with this debate we gotta move him out of the cafe and push him out so he was at a barbecue Because it makes more sense. Now was this more like a Texas barbecue where it's just hours of smoking meat? I, you know... Or what is this like... A Yemeni barbecue is light. Oh do they have a hibachi next to the 50 cows? It was a big giant fire with a goat Next to the fifty cow on the back of the Toyota. With some guy turning the spit. The spit yeah

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

Media Fear-Mongering and Bob Baer's CIA Operative Label

CNN and other networks are accused of constant fear-mongering through frequent interviews with "former CIA operative" Bob Baer. The discussion questions the meaning of the term "operative" and suggests that the repeal of the Smith-Mundt Act has allowed for increased domestic propaganda aimed at keeping the American public in a state of perpetual alarm.

bob baer· cnn· poppy harlow· smith-mundt act· propaganda· cia

41:29 And which look like a Gatlin gun. I mean, let's be honest we have to blow them up Yeah, actually I can see that yeah the CNN and CNN last night was on a tear And everybody is showing... Again, what is happening now the only people who are being threatened are journalists and politicians in their seats of government. Which is why this is all really happening in fast tempo because these people like, I'm a journalist! I'm getting blowed up and get my head chopped off we must report on this. And the politicians it goes hand-in-hand you understand why that works?

42:08 But now, particularly with the Smith-Mundt Act and you can propagandize the American people as much as you want with that act being repealed. They've had on a just a slew of people Bob Baird, Who now Bob Bear is he just sits in Telluride all day long. He might put on a jacket if he gets a little chilly as it set, yeah? But it's just nonstop. He's got a camera setup and Bob Bears here again really bugged I don't know how they Google. I don't know what kind of line they have him hooked to probably satellite but whatever its Colorado outside his house It does very little delay. I doubt if he's going to a studio to do this. I don't think so I think it's I saw him wear a jacket the other like a little fleece

42:51 Yeah, I'm chilly now doing it again and he all so he doesn't even have anything to say anymore No, no. I don't think he's read into a lot of stuff either because he just ad-libbed The whole idea for him is just to say be afraid Be afraid it can happen here be afraid And I guess it was who's the um, I forget her name with a blonde Harley Poppy Harlow poppy poppy. Harlow is that her name? I don't even know who this is and so she just brings on one after another after another after another and Bob bears like whatever Just be afraid because these terrorists they can do anything, you know They had to got invisible bombs

43:28 They get they morphed. They could be Magical shape-shifting juke talons, they got it's crazy or were too focused on the wrong threat bombs instead of bullets Ah this is a very good question let's go to our CIA a former CIA operative Which is how he's always introduced? What does that even mean you I mean, he... what does operative mean? Let's look this up. Because that is what it says- Is he a field agent? Is he a guy who was an analyst? I know analysts, I know field agents. I know these things. I don't know what operative is."

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

Al-Qaeda Technology and the Adaptive Enemy Narrative

Bob Baer warns of Al-Qaeda's advancing technology, specifically the use of PETN explosives in toner cartridges and the "hygroscopic" nature of the failed underwear bomber's device. Lieutenant General Mark Hartley describes the threat as an "adaptive enemy" capable of stealing police uniforms to infiltrate secure locations, emphasizing that individual "lone wolf" attacks are relatively easy to execute in the United States.

bob baer· khorasan group· petn· underwear bomber· mark hartley· aviation security

44:05 Operative define. Yeah, I feel personally that that is a probably a misnomer because he's not former anything He's a current CIA operative as far as i'm concerned good point yes well I think poppy we should be worried about both both my siri the bomb maker for al-qaeda in yemen Is very capable? He can take pet n which is a high brisons explosive he's been able to conceal it in a toner cartridge looks just like the ink Looks just like ink tastes just like the ink looks. Just like ink tastes, just like chicken and of course it was the underwear bomber The under the underwear bomber failed because he kept that explosive on his leg And its hydroscopic Hydroscopic it absorbed water and didn't go off

44:51 Now, if they... was he peeing on a down his leg? That is actually the truth. Yeah If you read the reports He left it on for days if not more than a week and He was pooping and peein all over the all over the thing What?! You didn't hear this oh yeah, that's the story Knowing what they were doing They could have brought that airplane down What did he say hygroscopic is that what he said or hydro no hygro hygro What does that mean means it sucks up water and what scares me is that al-qaeda is advancing in its technology Wait a minute. Hold on a second something scares Bob bear Let's back that up something scares him the hydroscopic at absorbed water It didn't go off now if they had known what they were doing They could have brought that airplane down and what scares me? Is that okay? I got to play that again thought I heard said explosive on his leg

45:46 and it's hydroscopic, it absorbed water and didn't go off. Now if they had known what they were doing they could have brought that airplane down And what scares me is that Al-Qaeda isn't advancing in its technology just as the Khorasan group is Wait a minute! Just throw another name! Just throw in the Khorasan Group! Wait a minute! There's no reason why they can't both do a military-style assault in Paris and go after airplanes. It's extremely difficult to bring down an airplane, but if these guys are getting better will they get to that point? I'd have to ask the experts." I have a feeling there is magical shape shifting Arabs as well. This has something to do with the Middle East. So then she brings on Lieutenant General Mark Hartley. This guy has the look

46:38 I think I've seen this guy's another one of these blockhead, you know What's his name again Hartley lieutenant general mark? partly Retired retired. So he's you know, he's obviously in on the he's being sent out He's being deployed all right will put you with a Bob bear Whatever you do just make people afraid we're dealing with an adaptive enemy adaptive the shape-shifters By the way this explains now how they get themselves into those little lamps that you rub when they come popping out I

47:19 Yeah, the shape shifters. It's like genie what was her name again Barbara Eden Barbie We're dealing with an adaptive enemy poppy and I think whereas we still have to be very concerned with the Aviation community and what they do this is an enemy that shown that they are going to use potentially long-term wolf attacks and individual operation cells like we saw in Paris, and like they were about to do in Belgium stealing police uniforms. This is another good one. Stealing police uniforms! This is great no evidence of this by the way... And you know what? You can go to just one of those stores and buy a cop uniform. Just buy a police uniform. Is it a stripper badge you gotta steal?! Is this a stripogram or are you a jihadi shapeshifting terrorist hmm

48:09 That'd be funny if you just show up at a party in a cop uniform people like oh, you're a cop no I'm a jihadi terrorist with the cops uniform and in like they were about to do in Belgium stealing police uniforms getting into potentially secure locations And there are a lot of other potential things as we saw and as we've seen in combat over the last 12 to 14 years There are opportunities everywhere to hide an explosive device. I'm very surprised not too not to try and be scary y'all Oh, you don't really mean that. You really do want to be scary! I'm very surprised we haven't seen more attacks like occurred in Paris in the United States yet. No! They're relatively easy to do and again they're dealing with an adapted enemy. Easy? There's no easy part to doing them. They are easy to do. More... They are easy to do. They are easy to do but he is suprised this why he is very surpised. So we are dealing with a stunned.

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

Panetta Institute Board and Media Personalities

The Panetta Institute for Public Policy is scrutinized for its board of directors, which includes media figures like Cokie Roberts and Bob Schieffer, as well as political figures like Donna Shalala. The inclusion of journalists on such boards is criticized as a conflict of interest, particularly when those same journalists appear in Hollywood films or report on the institute's members.

leon panetta· panetta institute· cokie roberts· bob schieffer· donna shalala· clint eastwood

49:01 No, he's not stunned. He's surprised. He is just not saying it I think he said he was very surprised United States very surprised but I'll bet she's stunned let's listen to how we said it again Attacks like occurred in Paris in the United States yet They're relatively easy to do and again We're dealing with an adaptive enemy we have to be more concerned about the environment And also various ways that these kinds of attacks can occur yeah Yes, my but he's not trying to scare anybody Thank goodness here is the do you mind? I just want to power through these CNN clips. No, no, I want to hear all this stuff so incredible Here is the CNN version of jihadis all over Europe Belgians woke up Saturday morning to something they haven't seen in more than 30 years that deployment of

49:45 soldiers from the armed forces in two Belgian cities, Brussels and also Antwerp. And this is in response to some of the security threats that have emerged not only in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attack in Paris but also after police went after suspected jihadi cell in the eastern Belgian city of Verviers It resulted in a gun battle Thursday night, in which two suspects were killed and a third was taken prisoner. This by the way is a great time just to take some people out. A suspected terror cell in Verdier's really? Okay I think this is just hey listen these guys are so freaking annoying let's go take them out! I think there's got to be some of that

50:34 It wouldn't surprise me. Now Brussels is not only the capital of Belgium, it's also the capital of the European Union a Europe that is increasingly on edge amid more and more reports of Europeans who have gone to Syria to join the Islamic State ISIS and are coming back and posing a threat to the continent Yes there are thousands of Europeans who have made a similar journey But this little country, Belgium is believed to have per capita more suspected jihadis than any other country in Western Europe. What? Yeah they're all in the parliament there. Suspected Jihadis... Okay let's go to Leon Panetta former CIA director former Secretary of Defense now leading the Panetta Institute

51:28 Hold I want to get that whole page for you with Clint Eastwood. Yeah, there's a couple other people on that actually I found the I Found the board of directors to be weak quite honestly Hmm hold on second we see per neta Why is it working? Panetta Institute I have it in the show notes just can't find it that quickly here We go panetta institute what does their mission statement this is relatively new I think His website is kind of like 1992. As a non-partisan center for the study of public policy, The Panetta Institute helps our communities and our country meet the challenges of the 21st century we work in particular to attract thoughtful young men and women to lives of public service helping them expand their knowledge of the policy process

52:26 blackmail and develop their skills as future leaders. So go to about us, and at the board you're right there's a bunch of just a bunch of drinking club. The so they have an academic advisory committee but here's the national advisors I think this is good so they have Nancy Baker i think Jim's wife then we have formula carosee Cruz Bustamante from California former lieutenant governor They've got Louis Butler. There's a lot of California people, obviously. Theon Panetta, Sylvia Panetta is a lot of wives. Yeah. It is on the board? Yes. Anyway... Former chairman CEO of the New York Stock Exchange. Cokie Roberts, Bob Schaefer gotta have the news people in there. Former Secretary United States Department of Health and Human Services Donna Shalala

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

Jeh Johnson and DHS Threat Streams

Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson announced ramped-up airport security measures in response to "threat streams" involving nonmetallic explosives. The media is criticized for equating unrelated incidents, such as a smoke-filled DC Metro station caused by an electrical malfunction, to potential terrorist vulnerabilities to maintain a narrative of constant danger.

jeh johnson· dhs· tsa· nonmetallic explosives· threat streams· dc metro

53:21 They shouldn't have news people on there. I forgot to mention that we didn't really talk about that in the interview, the movie, the Rogan James Flocka movie? Yeah what about it again all you know so many journalists acting in the movie oh yeah no that's right you're right and I know as a pet peeve of yours...I don't think it's so incredibly wrong they really should not be doing that. I agree! I think they're either going to be or want to be an actor Being an actor. Then we have this package which was an incredible, it was 19 minutes long and I cut it down to a minute-and-a-half just because I wanted the guy himself... This is a package about Jeh Johnson. Jeh? Jeh. Jeh is our new Neapolitano, new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.

54:12 He calls himself J, but it's spelled j-a-e-h. No, jeh. Jeh. No, no, jeh. That'd be jeh. Jeh Johnson and of course we are responding to the shape shifting Jews and Muslims everywhere they're just everywhere now so we have to be vigilant We've evolved to a new phase in the global terrorist threat. The head of Homeland Security revealing even more airport security measures are on the way We're looking at doing more in the short term, in reaction to some of the threat streams that we're seeing now Threat streams! Threat streams! What could that be? A threat stream... Somebody coming out you peeing

54:58 I wonder is that an audio stream? That would be a threat stream. But is it a threat stream like a thread or... Thread! Okay, this... No but no, a threat stream A threat stream! The DHS announced earlier this week ramped up searches at US airports over fears terrorists are creating nonmetallic explosives We're back to those boob and anus bombs capable of passing through some airport scanners undetected. So when you talk about more measures as far as aviation goes, what would that look like? What's the timeline for that and what is this new intelligence that we're hearing? We are looking at it right now and I told my folks that I wanted... Folks! Folks! ...I wanted an assessment in the very short term

55:49 And so I expect to get that in the next couple days. So it's unclear what those extra measures would be? We're looking at it right now Additional random passenger and luggage checks are now happening at the gate once travelers have cleared TSA checkpoints after Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula published a step-by-step guide to building hard to detect bombs This is, you know this is stupid This is the new inspire edition. Yeah, so when I said yeah talked about in the last show Yeah, but this and a dumb bomb they got in there following September 11th transportation systems continue to be a target for terrorists whose doesn't work unless you remind people of the horrible atrocities

56:35 In 2005, four suicide bombs detonated within seconds of each other on a bus and three different trains traveling through London underground stations. In 2010 Najibullah Zazi pleaded guilty for plotting to blow up New York subways. on homeland-based threats. Just this week, an electrical malfunction caused smoke to fill a DC metro station This is my favorite part of the story it's the last bit so now anything that happens anything anything there is some kind of annoyance or something that is bad I think a woman died of smoking inhalation maybe she had some other medical issues already Anything that happens now immediately has to be equated too but if this was a terrorist attack where were the authorities?

57:27 Huh? Killing one and injuring dozens more. One does have to wonder what would've happened had that fire been set by terrorists, and clearly the response was quick. What kind of analysis is this?! Johnson struck a reassuring tone saying that the department is assessing new intelligence and threats every day and every hour. So you can look at this two ways... They're turning us into Canadians! That's an outrage. I'm writing that down! I listen to a lot of Canadian news when I'm up north, and the typical...you have like a massive earthquake happens in Southern California and you listen to Canadian news—a massive earthquake happened in Southern California. What would it be like if it happened here?

58:16 And everything is like, what would it be like if it happened here? What would it be like if it happened here. So there's this complete supposition style of news reporting which is not to report the news but to report what would happen if it happened here. Well its even worse than that. This is CNN! When did CNN become Fox?! So they've been wanting to be Fox forever. Or, as I continue to assert, Fox is actually run by Democrats probably the same people who are running this outfit. Now here was my... This has gotta be my favorite so we've had everybody on it We've had Panetta, we got of course Bob Bear he lives there, we got Dick Johnson uh we've had the Lieutenant General on um let's bring in now they could have called you and i for this and and in fact I'm a little disappointed because the woman who comes on here

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

Branding ISIS and Alternative Narratives

A CNN segment discusses "Brand ISIS" as a successful emotional connection used to recruit young men aged 18-24. Marketing experts suggest that the West needs an "alternative narrative" to counter ISIS propaganda. The hosts mock the idea of applying Silicon Valley branding terminology to a terrorist organization and discuss how music is used in the radicalization process.

isis· branding· propaganda· cnn· marketing· radicalization

59:04 She's pitching her company, not directly but it's so obvious. And she's pitching her services and this is about brand...about brand ISIS which of course we know everything about, have analyzed this. We've analyzed the Al-Qaeda branding their subsequent reverse mergers their franchising of the brand and now some other woman gets on CNN and talks about it. ISIS has created a really successful brand! And a brand is an emotional connection with... I love this! This is..we know these women

59:41 Oh yeah. Just insert here... They're everywhere! Instead of ISIS, insert Facebook. Brand is an emotional connection with people and when you make it a connection you can scale that connection and ISIS has been really effective at using propaganda to move their brand along and continue to expand their footprint In the face of a successful brand where people are looking at ISIS as a winner, I mean there really needs to be an alternative narrative put out there. Where are the images of ISIS losing? Where are the images of setbacks actually being placed in their path as they move forward? I think there's a real void in the narrative out there that the public perception...

1:00:22 Do you think that when it comes to mo- Hey, shut up lady. We don't want any losing ISIS this is all about we gotta have cool videos Most people right? Those that aren't attracted to what ISIS does which is the majority of people Who's this high schooler This is the CNN woman Sounds like she's in high school When they put videos out of these horrific beheadings for example Aren't they in a sense only digging their own grave aren't they in a sense only turning us away in the, we have such an aversion to seeing that. No no this is great! We love those videos so we could not watch them and still talk about them this is great I think you're absolutely right for the majority of people in the world it's an awful image and its an awful brand It's an awful brand

1:01:07 I don't know this tickled me for some reason. It's an awful brand, I associate... You've heard this bullcrap before in Silicon Valley? Every week! That's not who they're talking to And then you get a $5,000 bill Right They're targeting the mostly young men Ah yes the target audience is mostly young man Okay now get back to the business What's the demo? The demo was just mostly young men I think it's 18-24 It's the number one prime demo. I agree. Mail, mail 1834 very hard to get ESPN has these guys you know that's where they should be advertising In fact, this is where they should be recruiting these ISIS guys. They should go on ESPN. Hey kids! The PlayStation

1:02:10 Don't go to steer Syria, but buy a PlayStation. You know that's a logical magnet for some of those people to turn too and what from a marketing and branding perspective What can start to put some boundaries on that is an alternative set of images And I'll turn it into that brand story really? I do really question from a brand building perspective Do you think there are bunch of guys sitting around going Ahmed! What are we going to do from a brand perspective? We have only a beheading brand. Whether or not there's something that can be done effectively to at least turn, broaden the attitude toward the position of ISIS And it's such an important point given how many people now are radicalized and even trained online through these videos they don't need to travel to Yemen to get this training and carry out these horrific attacks You don't even need to travel! Just sit home and get radicalized I know how it happens too They do it through song

1:03:13 uh that's how they radicalize you can play the whole song once you play the whole song why don't you promise to play the whole song at the end of the show okay well let me put it in the thing then hold on the holes yeah that'll keep people listening because everybody loves this song i have to say that's not true People are like, I can't sleep. I only hear this song in my head. It's driving me crazy. Make it go away!

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

John Boehner and FISA Surveillance Justification

House Speaker John Boehner claimed that a foiled plot to attack the U.S. Capitol was only discovered because of the FISA surveillance program. Critics argue this is a lie, asserting that the suspect's public social media activity was the actual trigger for the investigation, and accuse Boehner of using the event to protect the surveillance state.

john boehner· fisa· surveillance· capitol plot· social media· speaker of the house

1:04:00 Okay, well of course this woman doesn't understand that we're the ones who are behind the whole thing and then The brand needs to work in fine. It's getting it's working great in In England because oh yeah am runs all-in as you play the clip, but I'm gonna you know I have well I have that actually Transitions into something else well I can one little transition or do it what do you got with a clip? I have now John Boehner now is on, as far as I'm concerned. I never liked the guy that much but I didn't care he was just the Speaker of the House But now he's all in on the surveillance state He's a complete douchebag and he was called out for his stupidity In this particular clip which you'll find very amusing Let's listen to what House Speaker John Boehner said today about The foiled plot for an attack on the United States Capitol

1:04:54 The first thing that strikes me is that we would have never known about this had it not been for the FISA program and our ability to collect information on people who pose an imminent threat. talking about this. Is there more to this than these that we don't know? Well, I'll just... We'll let the whole story roll out there but it was far more than just that It's not just social media First he says that if we would have never found out anything if it wasn't for FISA which is bullcrap because the social media thing was what triggered somebody saying hey look what this guy's doing and then they started to track him right so he so this guy is a liar oh

1:05:43 Gee, there's gambling going on there. Yeah, this it's unconscionable that these people are still in office and the American public doesn't seem to care and we don't we don't however I care very much and I am very humbled humbled and honored in your presence. John C. Dvorak, in the morning to you and thank you for your courage sir! Well, in the morning to you Adam Curry In the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water And all the dames and knights out there. And in the morning everybody in the chat room checking us out today live noagendastream.com that's where you can get the stream live and also listen or get into the chat room helpful today

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

Donation Segment and the No Agenda Douchebag Check

The hosts acknowledge high-value donors and read notes from the "No Agenda" community. A significant portion is dedicated to an anonymous donor's "Douchebag Check" rant, inspired by a frustrating TSA experience. The donor calls out "freeloading" listeners who have not contributed to the show's value-for-value model despite regular consumption.

value-for-value· donations· karma· tsa· bag check· producers

1:06:28 Well, we have a few people to thank. Producers... I'm sorry before you do that let me thank Martin JJ for the artwork for episode 687 We appreciate all the work that our artists do good to see Martin back Martin JJ NoahJenArtGenerator.com Please contribute to that and I saw you use the penguin one in the newsletter these things get used even if it's not necessarily on the artwork. Yeah, we wouldn't have used that one somebody took that shot was protected it was a copyrighted shot that I didn't want to use as album art but I thought I'd slip it into the

1:07:08 to the newsletter. It's a funny picture, I think it is one of the funniest pictures ever. This thing you know this picture...it was not a penguin by the way is that? Oh puffin! A humorous puffin well let us thank a few people we did get a number of people because Plea for help because we got so we did so poorly on Thursday. We caught up today, which is good Basically equaled out I don't know why the Thursdays have been so poor but Sir Don Tommaso DiToronto came in with $567 and 89 cents My show my note for today's show is no note just 2015 karma for everybody You've got karma

1:07:54 Then we have two people that came in with $500 each, Darrell Arnett from Norman Oklahoma and Truman Child in Provo Utah. And I looked in the mailbox to see if Arnett had anything? Do you have a note from him because I don't. Yes, let me see what I have here... yes, no, I have Truman. Yeah, true. I don't have anything from Darrell Arnette. Okay well if he has something to say he'll tell us later but you see of the Truman note You can read that yes? Yes, I have that came in this morning Adam John first would like to double dip with karma requests out of the gate dip one Regular karma for me and dip two show donation Karma for the show thank you

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CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Religious Freedom Day and Executive Producer Credits

The hosts explain the show's credit system, likening their donors to Hollywood executive producers. They briefly mention President Obama's proclamation of Religious Freedom Day, noting his specific interpretation of the First Amendment as prohibiting the government from establishing religion rather than simply protecting the freedom to worship.

religious freedom day· executive producers· first amendment· barack obama· podcasting

1:22:32 And finally, if you truly can't afford it and you can still contribute hit others in the mouth and wake them up. If they have the means like they can afford a donut for breakfast They'll help pick up the slack Let me see he has uh... If you're in good standing anyway, so your apologies my own laps no need to do no de-douching necessary I was bagged to such a degree that I'll take more than it will take more than a jingle to wipe off the residue All right Thank you very much our good sir Yes, that was good. Very good little lecture. Nice little rant And that concludes our folks What an insult! Where's my number? What show number is it? 688688 How come its not anywhere on the sheet here? You need to talk to the back office

1:23:19 The file is called NA688.XLS. Anyway, that's our group for a group of great folks and producers executive and associate executive producers folks for show 688 And we do have a show coming up on Thursday of our Thursdays I don't know why it's dropped off so much but hopefully will kind of even out this these contributions so they're not, you know a bunch of them then none and a bunch of them than none. These are credits that go under the moniker of executive producer or associate executive producer. Go ahead look at television look at the credits that's what happens in the beginning of the show they open up they tell you all the people who are at the top of being responsible for each episode and of course we also have a credit roll which will do later on. These are real credits

1:24:03 They work anywhere credits are accepted. Unlike the douchebags in Hollywood, we will gladly vouch for its authenticity. The best podcast in the universe! Dvorak dot org slash N-A Now one thing you can always do is be out there continuing to propagate our formula Our formula is this We go out We hit people in the mouth Hey citizens Shut up! Shut up! Yay yay yay Uh... hey today

1:24:46 by presidential proclamation. Is that today? No, that was yesterday. No. What is today 18? Oh it's Friday just by coincidence just by coincidence like it like this I don't know how it happens It was religious freedom day what yeah on Friday Yeah, but I think they just make it up Like what's going on now we got like maybe shape-shifting Jews And A-Rebs, I know what we'll do. Let's call it a religious freedom day! That should bring people together by presidential proclamation." The First Amendment prohibits the government from establishing... He says the First Amendment prohibits the government from establishing religion. Hmm that's an interesting way of interpreting it. The first amendment protects the freedom to

1:25:44 worship anything, place objects person God whatever you want that's different from prohibiting the government from establishing religion but I'm not the constitutional lawyer hmm interesting we must continue our work to protect religious freedoms around the globe yes we must What else is it today? Oh, I had drinks. Too many drinks. I'll be the first to admit Friday was a good two drink shed two drinks. I had four holy crap. Yeah and it's probably for light in there are two of which were serious bourbons and at that point where you go like oh man I was hammered but it wasn't hammered yeah I was

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

Oil Prices, Interest Rates, and the Swiss Franc

A report from a former New York banker suggests that the drop in oil prices was caused by market saturation from small traders rather than a single entity's manipulation. The banker predicts that interest rates will remain low for decades, similar to Japan's economic "funk," and discusses the recent unpegging of the Swiss franc from the Euro.

oil prices· interest rates· swiss franc· japan· finance· austin

1:26:33 But not before I at least got a little bit of information out of our former New York banker. Oh yes, we need to know! Yeah so his wife was up in Houston and Miss Mickey was not back from Amsterdam... So dude let's go out drinking And there's this new place in Austin called Fix, F-I-X-E. Fix? Yeah fix. Fix and it is dynamite! Why? The food is really... It's a little complex I would say like potato salad has all kinds of stuff in there including quail yolk and um but it's really good

1:27:10 Really really good these guys used to run Eddie V's which is a very famous kind of steakhouse place Uh-huh, and that got sold and then these guys started and it's big as if this place. It's huge and it was jam packed With nothing but hotties and us. What? Yeah, yeah they're coming from Dallas I think no day there that what the hotties usually stay in Dallas. No no it's Friday night man come on or maybe from San Antonio. I don't know where they were coming to is a little more of a logical drive because Dallas is a long way. Dallas is too far you're right but they look like Dallas for a drink. They look like Dallas girls well Texas and because Christina I did drop Christina off at the airport

1:27:52 I took my, uh, my phone. But have a phone just not a smartphone. You know? I don't know the kids traveling and she has to go through Atlanta. I dunno if something could happen so she can always text me if there's something going on and because of the reason that I have to explain this for texting, I use a Google voice number but you know as if I need detect or somebody is picking it up on however you cannot text a European number from Google voice. This is true. It sucks I'd pay for that. Why can't we do that? That's lame." Anyway, it doesn't matter. And so there was like three girls at the bar and on the other corner of the bar and one of the girls goes, Wow! It has been a long time since I've seen a Nokia like that. Maybe she was giving you a come-on... Yeah no. This is the time where the phrase yeah no is appropriate. No she wasn't coming on

1:28:52 Okay, two things I've learned from our friend the former banker from New York City one oil prices Okay this I'm interested in Because I said do all this is obviously being manipulated. He said yes, but really it's not one entity It's not just you know Who was it though? It wasn't more HSBC or Morgan or whatever he says really what happened here is is there were hundreds and hundreds of people just trading oil contracts over and over again. And what happened was really too many people wound up owning oil they really didn't need, because that's what really did it!

1:29:33 So that's what really brought it down. There was just too many people in the game, just overextended and yeah maybe it had a little push but he said it was so easy. It was just the market was completely saturated with these little traders and I say little in quotation marks um they really just owned all this oil now own this oil that they really didn't need and it's on barges floating around and it's just too much okay sounds feasible? Yeah the markets saturated with oil Then he told me something very interesting. He said, I want you to understand that we talk about junk bonds and about inflation and also about what happened with the Swiss franc which was beautiful this was an American banker's dream

1:30:20 Everyone was off in Switzerland. The minute they unpegged from the Euro, screwed the Euro yet again everyone went on a shopping spree in Germany took their Swiss francs and started buying stuff across the border just absolutely an American-Swiss screw you to the EU And he says he has staked his personal fortune on the following He says interest rates will remain Low for at least another decade maybe two Okay, I thought that was interesting and wouldn't surprise me this happened in Japan the Japanese exactly it is exactly the example he brought up right once you get into this kind of funk With the interest rates. It's see you can't really get out of it

1:31:10 Without collapsing the stock market. I know where to do that and so he said that he what he did is He put his personal fortune into anything that will yield 4% That's probably yeah, I can see that And it says if you put that in for the next 10 years You know that's the safest is the best thing to do that's way you need to put all your stuff Yeah, no That is my report from the front lines of finance come on It is what it is nothing come on. Well you were probably forgot most of it because you had that I Did not forget extra shot and the girls came over to flirt with you, and you was hey been a while since I seen one You must be from Dallas From Dallas you crumb they left guys wasted yeah the guy Hey stop serving him

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

Global Warming Statistics and the Hottest Year Record

NASA and NOAA declared 2014 the hottest year on record, a claim the hosts dispute by citing statistical margins of error and the historical difficulty of measuring global temperatures in 1880. They argue that temperature data is often manipulated by moving measurement stations or weighting samples to support a "federal scientist" narrative of man-made climate change.

global warming· climate change· nasa· noaa· statistics· weather channel

1:32:02 Funny funny funny Yeah, there's a couple things. There was I got a funny letter you got it to know from Brendan one of our producers Sorry? Savoie, Brendan Savoie. No no I don't know if we want to he wants us to say his name so i'm just gonna say Brendan. He was grousing about the LA Times and all these coordinated reports that 2014 was this... Oh the single yeah yeah oh by the way So The Banker went now on blitzed right now completely hammered he says nah Adam

1:32:39 He's also hammered. No, tell me! He's hammered too? You both got hammered on four drinks?! I think he had six... Okay that's worse than- And he says about him uh now you know i don't know if you're just an entertainer or your a journal journalist but how do you what is this you read it everyone agrees hottest year on record how are you going to what's your evidence that it's not like oh Jesus I'm drunk, I can't do this now. But I actually read Brandon's letter to him. Brandon's letters... Oh you did? Yeah! He talks about the reports he says they failed to mention how they managed to measure the temperature of the planet in 1880 or 1950 for that matter. And calibrated these satellites. A highly difficult task even today were the satellites calibrated properly in 1880?!

1:33:33 I'm guessing the measurement of the average temperature of the planet is plus or minus at least 1.4 degrees even today, never mind compared to 1880! No matter how many locations you measure, the temperature will still have to assign a weight to each sample and that requires a huge assumption We moved from near the beach in Southern California few years ago to 5 miles away slightly inland And during the summer it's frequently 10-20 degrees warmer Which one are they measuring? And if both hours each weighted against the other. In fact, this is a point that goes on and this was brought up by the guy who started The Weather Channel who's a big anti-warmist

1:34:13 mentioned that they changed the, for one thing they moved these boxes over the years to average the temperatures. Yeah you can do a satellite thing but that's only recently. It's even better 2014 it looks like 2010 was warmer but then they took some ocean temperature from somewhere and said ah look we'll just add this up and divide it by two when will put something in there and all of sudden it became well it became the hottest on record Which of course, USA Today had the best reporting. Federal scientists it says. Federal scientists! I like that. That is so beautiful federal scientists

1:34:56 a show that is the warmest year on record. And here it is, a quote from Jonathan Overpeck an atmospheric scientist which is not the same as climatology but okay we'll... he says quote humans are literally cooking their planet if we literally were cooking our planet then there would be smoke We're not literally... Yeah, throwin' down the gas! We are not literally smoking the planet. Oh man yeah so there's a-there's enough to it's just statistics is this enough to refute this?

1:35:37 But this is really one of... Lies, lies and statistics. Yeah this is really one of those that just you know if you get NASA, you get the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration they come out and they say oh we've looked at all the numbers! We've backed it into being the warmest ever on record. Give us more money I mean yeah and meanwhile in the UK another blizzard The Arctic Storm hits Scotland, Wales, South West Central England. And then we have reports like this. This is Abby Martin who's getting worse by the way she's so glib now she's almost disgusting it's hard to watch her but here she is talking about this hot year and this brings to mind a comment that I must make

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

Bernie Sanders and the Science Denial Meme

Senator Bernie Sanders introduced a resolution to the Keystone XL bill intended to force Republicans to go on the record regarding climate change. Media personality Abby Martin praised the move as a way to expose "science deniers." The hosts criticize this as "trickery" and compare the political pressure to the coercive environment described in Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged."

bernie sanders· climate change· keystone xl· abby martin· science· gop

1:36:25 Well amidst the debate over Keystone XL this week, Senator Bernie Sanders took the opportunity to essentially trick GOPers into admitting their denial over climate change. See Sanders introduced a resolution to the Keystone bill declaring that Congress agrees with scientific consensus on climate change but it's real and man-made Meaning if Republicans attempt to block the resolution, they're blatantly rejecting science. And the issue is more important than ever with a report just published by NASA and NOAA determining that 2014 was THE hottest year on record."

1:37:02 I'll just say one thing. I tried to get a clip of this Sanders thing because he was on it actually before Thursday, it was on a number of shows and nothing really there but the meme is you're denying science That is now it's you're denying science not denying Global warming or climate change. You just deny science that is what Bernie kept saying yeah, well Bernie is a Shyster dick and let me just put up put this before you dick The only way you can make your point is by, as Abby said, trickery. If you're using trickery to get people to agree with you or do something... This is like the people that do the spam. They send spam out and it says here's a good note for your wife and then you read this spam thing. This is trickery. Who would do business with a person?

1:37:59 online that tricked you into opening an email or tricked you into something, but they lied to you. Or they call you up on the phone and try to trick you into buying something that you don't even know who this person is using trickery To make your point like that is douchebaggery at its height and then it would be accepted by Abby Martin as a cool thing shows what an asshole she is Yeah, I agree And I saw a number of people who Bernie was on and they were all really, oh this is really good. So they have to admit it. You're tricking them into that. They have to admit it either they're in or against or whatever yeah yeah Yeah I know

1:38:47 I have about four different stories on that in the Agenda 21 categories, you can take a look at it. It really truly is not clear if 2010 was warmer than 2014 but it's irrelevant because you get the LA Times... screw that USA Today. New York Times! Yeah and Federal... Federal scientists how can you even... I love the federal scientists Now you have to admit sometimes it feels like we're living By Ayn Rand I think when it feels like it doesn't feel like it at all gosh, okay? Well because I don't see everybody running off to the Gulch well okay Here is okay. This is something. I've been working on this was my main focus and there's a couple of new wait hold on a second

1:39:44 Why did you bring the Ayn Rand thing back up? Out of the blue. No, not out of the blue when you talk about federal scientists and they're all this coercion is trickery yeah that's a good I could have triggered that oh that's exactly what Atlas Shrugged is about The government becomes a bunch of all in douchebags and if you're not on board then your you know then you have to disappear That's the part that is not real okay alright I don't want to belabor this Oh I think many people will go for ya curry I don't think so. The podcaster AC Curry, all right here is what i've been working on uh we had David Cameroon show up and he had a little meeting there and uh and he and Barack Barak Barak how does it say thank you Barack Barack he says Eric Barrick no he doesn't say barrack is it barack? I like barrack.

CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

Iran Nuclear Negotiations and the P5+1 Oil Interests

British Prime Minister David Cameron lobbied the U.S. Congress to delay further sanctions on Iran to allow nuclear negotiations to proceed. The hosts argue the "nuclear weapon" narrative is a front for controlling Iran's oil and gas exports. They suggest the P5+1 nations (U.S., Russia, China, UK, France, plus Germany) are primarily interested in managing Iran's energy resources.

iran· p5+1· david cameron· barack obama· sanctions· oil

1:40:40 They did this stand up together. Some of it was about their, which I have in the show notes a number of sharing initiatives and cyber some cyber initiatives which is worth looking into but it's kind of more the same what I found interesting was both comments about Iran and here's Cameron quickly and then we have a longer piece here on Iran We remain absolutely committed to ensuring that Iran cannot develop a nuclear weapon The best way to achieve that now is to create the space for negotiations to succeed. We should not impose further sanctions now, that would be counterproductive and it could put at risk the valuable international unity that has been so crucial to our approach."

1:41:24 So this was interesting and luckily during the question-and-answer session, one of the journalists came in asked the president and then also specifically asked Cameron about something. And this was you know Barrack gave a 20 minute non answer of course It was so boring. It went on, it was droning on and on and on but this is about the P5 plus one and for some reason I whenever i hear these oh three p3 plus what I zone out and everything to look at it this time I did a deep dive. P5 plus 1 this is uh the negotiations diplomatic efforts with Iran

1:42:07 apparently for its nuclear program. And this is the, of course the UN Secretary Council with the United States Russia China The UK France plus Germany so German is the Germany is the plus one Why is Germany the plus? Because this of course has nothing to do with Iran's nuclear program Why is Russia in there why is China in there This can only be one thing What? Resources of course. I brought this up, why are we cozying up to Iran there's a reason for it here is the ABC reporter who asked the question and look at it to the extent that David Cameron is coming to United States to stop

1:42:54 the now Republican majority houses from imposing further sanctions on Iran. This will not stand, the president will veto anything that comes across his desk and I think it's going to be very obvious why. You mentioned your opposition to the sanctions bill on Iran And this is obviously a bipartisan bill supported by some very senior top members of your own party in Congress. Why do you oppose the bill that would only impose sanctions if you fail to reach an agreement and if the Iranians fail to agree, uh...to take steps to curtail their nuclear program? Would you go so far as to veto a bill supported by top Democrats in Congress on this issue? And, uh...to Mr Prime Minister

1:43:41 I understand you've been making phone calls to senators on this issue of the Iran sanctions bill. Is that correct? Are you actually lobbying the US Congress on it? Something must be important! When i came into office, I made a commitment that Iran would not obtain nuclear weapons That we would do everything we could prevent them If Iran obtained nuclear weapon then It will trigger an arms race in Middle East to make our job in terms of preventing the proliferation of nuclear materials much more difficult. In that context, there is no good argument for us to try to undercut undermine the negotiations until they've played themselves out now if Iran ends up ultimately not being able to say yes

1:44:30 If they cannot provide us the kind of assurances that would lead myself, David Cameron and others to conclude that they are not obtaining a nuclear weapon then we're going to have to explore other options. And I will be the first one to come to Congress and say we need to tighten the screws. We don't make these judgments blindly. We have been working on this for five six seven years. We consult closely with allies like the United Kingdom in making these assessments. And I'm asking Congress to hold off because our negotiators, our partners those who are most intimately involved in this assess that it will jeopardize the possibility of resolving a diplomatic solution to one of the most difficult

1:45:15 and long-lasting national security problems that we faced in a very long time. A little flub there, but okay so we have this is about a national security problem all of this all of this please please please Please don't fuck with our negotiation right now. Is it all because of some nuclear thing we're trying to thwart? I think not." are really only so that the United States and arguably our allies like the United Kingdom control who gets to trade with Iran and how much, and it is oil.

1:46:01 It's most definitely the oil, all kinds of things are going in and out but we have put sanctions on so we determine really we are in charge of their sales. That has led to pressure that pressure has led to talks and those talks at least have a prospect of success and I would argue with the president you know how much better is that than the other potential outcomes. And that is what we should be focusing on, but to answer you very directly yes I have contacted a couple of senators this morning and i may speak to one or two more this afternoon not in any way as British Prime Minister to tell the American Senate what it should or shouldn't do that wouldn't be right but simply to make the point as a country that stands alongside America in these vital negotiations that its opinion

1:46:46 of the United Kingdom that further sanctions or further threat of sanctions at this point won't actually help to bring the talks to a successful conclusion and they could fracture the international unity that there's been which has been so valuable in presenting united front to Iran. And I say this as someone who played quite, i think uh... strong role in getting Europe to sign up to the very tough sanctions, including oil sanctions in the first place. Okay I don't think David Cameron really needs to spend his time lobbying the United States members of Congress and Senate because of some nuclear deal bullshit this is about the parse field and we just need to look at a couple headlines and then review what has been happening with Syria

CHAPTER 23 / 36 Discussion

Syrian Pipeline Geopolitics and Natural Gas

The conflict in Syria is framed as a battle over competing natural gas pipelines: the Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline versus the Qatar-Turkey pipeline. Iran is reportedly hitting record production levels and planning exports to Iraq and the Kurdish region, which threatens Western energy interests and explains the ongoing geopolitical maneuvers in the Mediterranean.

syria· bashar al-assad· qatar· turkey· natural gas· pipelines

1:47:36 The whole reason for the Syria cabal is the choice by Assad to go with the Iraq-Iran gas pipeline to Syria and not with the Qatar, this is the South to North Qatar Syria Turkey pipeline. And this is the whole thing and now let's look at the headlines Iran hits highest record of daily gas production. Iran will start exporting gas to Iraq in May. Iran and the Kurdish regional government are building two pipelines! This is happening

1:48:13 This is happening come hell or high water and we are pumping our gas and our resources from Baku, from Azerbaijan. Part of Parse, we are pumping it straight through Iran and it's going into Iraq. And it may go into Turkey but I still think that is more than likely that this will go out through Syria depending on what happens when you send the next round of troops and trainers into it. This is what this is about! The whole nuclear weapon thing... It's a front just to shut people up just keep this conversation going Why is Cameron there? British Petroleum A shell

1:48:56 This is about the pipeline coming from Iran with and they have more gas than anybody else. And why else is China and Russia in the P5 plus one talks? And Germany, because this is about getting this into the Mediterranean up into the EU. All right. Could be, the whole thing is bull crap and they're just really about the oil. It's gas it's gas I have the map here... Gas it's different. I have the map here as the proposed Iran-Iraq Syrian pipelines in the show notes so I don't have a direct URL for it but the idea was always... With all this gas coming out of these places why is the helium market still in disarray? Maybe that's not maybe it's an investment opportunity

CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

Syrian Rebel Training and Sourcing Solutions

Rear Admiral John Kirby announced that the U.S. will send several hundred troops to train "moderate" Syrian rebels. Kirby used the term "sourcing solutions" to describe the recruitment process, though he admitted that no trainees have been identified or enrolled yet. The hosts characterize this as the creation of a state-sponsored guerrilla force, which they define as an act of war.

syria· john kirby· moderate rebels· act of war· jordan· training

1:49:38 Something's fishy about that because all the helium comes is just extracted from natural gas. Hmm to where it all is Maybe this maybe that has been maybe that's part of the sanctions with Iran and we should take a look at it Anyway, so we need to move on Syria The next move is not widely discussed but here is rear Admiral Kirby who I find to be this is the thing said What was their noses schwa schwaschel their noses snozzle what shwing? Forget what it was when he said a shrank to us that he's swang swings how many noses we schwanged or schwunged whatever wink We will be sending trainers. I have it in the book trainers schwacht track Thank You chat room schwacht yeah, this is the guy who talks about schwack and then we're gonna send some trainers But not just rain there's all kinds of people To help the moderate Syrian rebels who wear

1:50:36 Funny hats I guess we have to identify him somehow. I think what you can expect is several hundred US troops in a training capacity to the various sites Sightings that are still being established and prepared, I think you'll start to see orders for some of those troops over the next four to six weeks Some could be given orders very soon perhaps as soon as within the next week or so But they'll flow in I think over the next four to six weeks I'm hesitant to give an exact number on that because I think some of the sourcing solutions are still being worked out Sourcing solutions, but several hundred is about the right range. What does that mean sourcing solutions? That must be because it's coming just go. It's yeah black water ash talking and they'll be spread out accordingly a portion two different sites again it will depend on the requirements in the site preparations there will also be

1:51:31 In addition to, back to the US side. In addition to the several hundred trainers that we think will need to provide this effort I think you can expect to see there'll be additional U.S service members going in a support capacity. Support capacity! Let's not question that just supports them these guys are training these guys are getting their coffee and what we traditionally call enablers but they're enablers wow is that what they're calling on these days? Enablers bring in the enablers that kind of thing so I don't know again some of these sourcing solutions are still being worked No orders have been cut as we sit here today, so I can't get into any specifics Just now there has been no active recruiting yet

1:52:18 That said, they are working with the Syrian moderate opposition leadership to identify potential Syrian moderate groups. from which recruiting could occur, but no recruiting has actually yet started. No trainees have been identified and enrolled in this program just yet." Wow! I love this we haven't recruited anyone to enroll in our program from the moderate Syrian opposition you know the good guys and the press just sits there and goes okay Well, I mean what the guy said you can't what are you gonna do as a press member? That's just gobbledygook. The guy isn't saying anything He's saying that well What he's saying is that we got nothing on we're sending we're building a guerilla force

1:53:08 a terrorist force inside someone else's country with a bunch of people trained. Actually, that's not true. We're doing it in our friend's country so Jordan etc and then we're going to train these guys to go in and screw everything up! It's an act of war Whatever. Yeah, I guess we have a lot of active wars. I must just be nuts and pay no attention to me. You are nuts. I'm nuts. It's not an act of war. We're helping these people. The president is helping people in active war? I ask you the President fighting selective solutions in case sourcing solution for sourcing selected solutions. And you'll like it

CHAPTER 25 / 36 Discussion

Police Militarization and the Law Enforcement Equipment Working Group

President Obama issued an executive order creating the "Law Enforcement Equipment Working Group" to review the acquisition of military-grade equipment by local police. Rather than banning items like bayonets or armored vehicles, the order focuses on creating databases and implementation plans. Critics argue this is a bureaucratic maneuver to avoid taking real responsibility for police militarization.

police militarization· executive order· barack obama· bayonets· law enforcement· database

1:53:57 Executive order came out from the president. This is the one we've been waiting for, this is the Federal Support for Local Law Enforcement Equipment Acquisition. This of course is regarding the very disturbing equipment acquisitions by law enforcement agencies throughout the United States which include tanks bayonets and other things to views upon the citizens of the United States and we're happy you know the President's gonna do something about this as he says There was some concern about the employment and deployment of controlled equipment acquired by the LEAs, the law enforcement agencies. So what are we going to do? What is the president's executive order?

1:54:41 Are we going to reduce this? Are we going to stop supplying this stuff, which of course is all part of the military industrial complex. I would guess that we're gonna monitor close... We're gonna monitor more closely. Ah even better! We are going to create the Law Enforcement Equipment Working Group. Oh! Another committee! That's it! That's his whole executive order. We'll have a group and then we will talk about it So, we can see that at least the law enforcement... Edwin Lee Even C-SPAN won't put that on. Adam Pachucki I'm telling you. The working group within 120 days shall provide the president with recommendations and implementation plans as set forth in Section 3. Let me just get Section 3 here for a second. Oh, there must be an expanded version but really it's created here is

1:55:38 Developing policies to ensure that law enforcement agencies abide by any limitations or affirmative obligations, okay? Planning the creation of a database. Ooh! There's an IT piece in there dude named Ben. A database that includes information about controlled equipment purchased or acquired ensuring a process for returning specified controlled equipment if and when no longer needed... Hey these bayonets are all bloody let me send them back Requiring local civilian government review of the requests for stuff. Providing uniform standards for suspending LEAs from federal controlled equipment programs if they violate any laws, please! Please! Like what? What law would they violate? Civil laws... They're always doing that. Creating a process to monitor the sale or transfer

CHAPTER 26 / 36 Discussion

Glenn Greenwald on the Surveillance State and BBC Bias

Glenn Greenwald appeared on the BBC to criticize David Cameron's push for expanded spying powers following the Paris attacks. Greenwald argued that mass surveillance actually hinders the ability to find real terrorists by creating too much data. The BBC interviewer's pushback is cited as evidence of the network's support for an authoritarian "fascist" state.

glenn greenwald· bbc· david cameron· mass surveillance· charlie hebdo· civil rights

1:56:29 From an LEA to third parties. So it's not anywhere does this executive order say, hey let's not give bayonets That's just dumb No that's not in there Working group This guy has so many working groups Yeah A good way to get out of the whole thing Get out of responsibility. So I was watching Newsnight or whatever that thing, that once a week show the BBC puts on... Newsnight? It was on last night wasn't it? Yeah! They had your buddy on, Gren Greenwald. Ah don't rhyme, don't rhyme, don't rhyme. And they were talking about-I thought there were some good points he made He's changing his cadence a little bit with the way he talks. But it was obvious to me in clip two, I've got three clips

1:57:21 In clip two, it's obvious to me that the BBC is all in on the fascist takeover of Western civilization. But I think we may have known that but it has never been so obvious. Let's play Greenwald on Cameron being hasty, in other words jumping right away wanting to put together these you know, set up a furtherance of the Patriot Act-like act in England. Craziness with which Western leaders like David Cameron have moved to exploit the emotions surrounding the Paris attack has really been stunning I mean even the Bush administration had the decency to wait a few days after 9 11 attack before it started introducing new spying and detention legislation and Prime Minister Cameron and others haven't even waited that long they... the victims haven't even been buried and already they're demanding

1:58:08 more powers. I mean if this were a reason debate they would examine what happened here and commission experts to talk about any gaps, legitimate gaps but that's not what they're doing they want to exploit fear and exploit the emotions surrounding this event against still more spying power for themselves and i think the public will be rightly wary of that. The public is not going to be rightly wary. The public doesn't give a crap! Who's he kidding? Oh man, no... So the BBC guy comes on and he makes his commentary which says to me that they're stooges and this is kind of interesting little back-and-forth But I just wonder whether it's quite difficult for you to make the argument at times like this

1:58:46 that we need to be wary of the security authorities rather than the fanatics? I don't think it's hard at all to make the argument. I think this is a crucial time to make the argument, and people resent when their emotions are exploited and trifled with and when governments try to use fear-mongering to get more powers for themselves It's definitely an effective tactic And that's why governments do it But that has led the West to things like destroying Iraq and torturing people systematically and putting them in prisons for years without charges is this constant fear-mongering and exploitation of emotions surrounding terrorism. And I think it's the responsibility of journalists and others to demand reasoned discourse. Well, reasoned discourse but you do respect the right of publics in countries where maybe they have different views than yours... ...and in a reasoned discourse have decided that they think

1:59:33 they would like them to have more powers. You're almost as if you don't think the public have a right to that, or the opposite view of you. They are perfectly entitled aren't they? To take whatever view they want at different risks. Wow! I was listening to Radio 4 when i go to bed and put it on Sonos through tune in radio and then you can listen all these radio stations all you hear on Radio 4, which is their news kind of channel and BBC. Is this? Is this all in... You know yeah we need to trust the government, they know what's best for us, this makes so much sense let them have all the powers they need I mean these people have spy cameras in their trash bins! Come on, they love it for some reason

2:00:20 Well, that's what this guy is arguing with Greenwald. He says they agree in the next clip we can play that it should be I think is pretty short. Yeah sure people and democracies all the time embrace authoritarianism there are all kinds of cases where that's the case People have the right to want to live in an authoritarian state They have the right to have their government monitor and spy on everybody but at the same time there are basic individual rights that even majorities are not permitted to infringe upon. That's why most Western countries have constitutions and most countries around the world have subscribed to treaties, so even if 89% or 97 percent of the people in a population want to trample on the rights of others they actually don't have the right to do that even in democracy and I think mass surveillance does that but the more important point is you know why did this terrorist attack occur even though these Western countries are spending so much on

2:01:12 surveillance? And I think the answer is that if you focus on actual terrorists and surveil them, you can be successful in stopping attacks. But when you engage in mass surveillance putting hundreds of millions of people under a surveillance microscope it becomes extremely difficult to find the people who attack The Boston Marathon or the people who attack Charlie Hebdo in Paris and I think its failure of governments when they do even more mass surveillance in the wake of these attacks I think that's a good point, but i think what Greenwald is missing besides the fact that the other guys arguing for the fascist state and saying the public wants that. But i think what greenwall is missing is that he actually believes That these guys are just wrongheaded with this mass surveillance He doesn't get the blackmail state aspect of it Or... He never once mentioned that this was used for blackmail or... That's what this surveillance is for

CHAPTER 27 / 36 Discussion

Snowden Cyber Battle Documents and the Third Amendment

New documents released by Edward Snowden detail NSA preparations for "cyber battle," including the ability to hijack private computers to conduct counterattacks. The hosts argue that the government taking over a citizen's computer for war purposes should be considered a violation of the Third Amendment, which prohibits the quartering of soldiers in private homes.

edward snowden· nsa· cyber war· third amendment· botnets· laura poitras

2:02:05 He's subject to it. I've always thought he was subject to it. Oh But now as you mention, it haven't seen a lot of Snowden docs that's not been pushed off to Appled apple didn't the Apple thing Applebaum IO error who is now a journalist for built? He and Poitras are writing articles Portra portra Here The latest article was... Well, he definitely doesn't say anything new here. He's just philosophizing so you might be right maybe he is a subject to the blackmail approach it does work Here it is This is the most recent one Snowden New Snowden docs indicate scope of NSA preparations for cyber battle Cyber battle Which is just more PowerPoint did you see that there's

2:03:06 There's a theme for what is the not open office? Yeah, or Libra office. There's a It's not called PowerPoint was it called presentation or whatever there yes something like that they have a theme which is the Snowden theme Like those lame-ass power points Just yeah you just put your own words in there like oh, it looks great Which it is I mean this is it's okay to Yeah, this is where and the article by the way is interesting in regard that according to Portra and Applebaum NSA

2:03:43 What they do is they hijack other people's, you know... They could hijack your computer if you might have been subject to a botnet takeover and you are part of a botnet. They will take your computer take over to hide to go basically making it like man in the middle To go and attack or do counterattacks Which I think should be it should fall under the Third Amendment that you can't have no soldiers can't take over your house In time of war Why should the NSA be allowed to take over your computer in some kind of cyber or so-called cyber war? I agree, but it needs to go before the Supreme Court. Yeah right after the gay marriage thing we'll get right to that's why tell people turn your computer off at night Yes There's no reason to leave a thing running its using a valuable wattage and then someone else who I maybe an attorney sent me this link and

CHAPTER 28 / 36 Discussion

Constitutional Privacy Rights and Case Law

A legal analysis from the University of Missouri explores whether the U.S. Constitution explicitly protects the right to privacy. The discussion notes that while the 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 9th Amendments imply privacy, it is largely established through case law rather than direct text. This leaves privacy rights vulnerable to new legislation or Supreme Court reversals.

privacy· constitution· supreme court· 14th amendment· case law· university of missouri

2:04:36 It's from, what is it? UMKC. Is it Kansas City University? University of Kansas City? I think so. There's no University of Kansas City. What is umkc.edu? What does that... I don't know let's find out. And the and it's a part of a project from the university whatever university is called exploring constitutional conflicts. It is the University of Missouri. Of Missouri there you go Add the issue, does the Constitution protect the right of privacy? And his assertion is, even though this article pretty much says all the way through that yes of course we have the 14th Amendment but we have obviously the privacy of beliefs. The First Amendment, we had the privacy of the home in the Third Amendment, privacy of the persons or possessions in the Fourth. They don't even put the Fifth in here but I would say the Fifth is privacy to your... you're protecting your own self and speech. The Ninth Amendment... No, privacy to your thoughts. Your thoughts thank you

2:05:36 The Ninth Amendment, which a lot of people say there's you know kind of covers everything else. Yet it is asserted in this article that privacy is really only proven by case law and not by these actual articles and that...and this producer thinks that this also may come before the Supreme Court and he says that it's arguable that your actual privacy is not constitutionally protected, that it is protected by case law over years and therefore new legislation can be created which would protect your privacy except of course for a couple of annoying bits like you know when the government wants to read something in case you're terrorist. Yeah And this is the direction things are going

2:06:23 Yeah, it makes sense. No, it doesn't make sense. It makes no sense. You can't make sense out of this? You can say that... Yes, so it's just to screw us and screw the public. Okay but would you say that your right to privacy is constitutionally protected or do you think...? Yeah I would say yes to that. Well then this going be argued as a no. Well, this will be fun to watch! Good for the show! Yeah well you know what, I got the constitutional lawyers here there'll be lots of drinks we'll have It's the kind of bull crap you get from the Congress, because they don't care. And destroying the Boehner for example that guy douchebag So I'm watching this hearing and this came up

CHAPTER 29 / 36 Discussion

High-Speed Rail Definitions in Massachusetts

A Massachusetts representative's push for infrastructure investment includes a claim that a train reaching 79 miles per hour qualifies as "high-speed rail." The hosts mock this definition, noting that cars in Texas can legally travel at 85 miles per hour, making the "high-speed" label for the rail project appear ridiculous.

high-speed rail· massachusetts· infrastructure· trains· texas· transportation

2:07:04 And I was just like, oh. This is a mass...one of the...he's just outside of Boston and can't remember his name but he's a Massachusetts representative and they're talking about the budget and how they're gonna have to spend money this way or that way or the other ways as Democrat. And he thinks that we got to think more about infrastructure. And then he just drops a bomb in the middle of this little discussion that kind of ends on it. And I'm just going, Oh my God! Now its nuts. I think what we're trying to get to here is the idea that there are economic outcomes that come from significant infrastructure investments, that are not only long overdue but have been resisted by the majority in the House. And the path forward seems to me to be one that would include for example an investment in two huge union stations from Hartford to Springfield putting a lot of construction workers on the job

2:08:03 the rail being improved, broadband having been extended to the hill towns of western Massachusetts so that children who by the way live in communities that have first class colleges have to go to the parking lot at the local library during evening hours to connect to the internet. And I think those are the sorts of measurements we want to be assured as we go forward if were only going to apply this to tax cuts And it seems to me as though it's ill-considered and if we decide that we're going to talk about long term investments, what better way than improving rail transportation? Just for our colleagues here who are dubious about high speed rail. That first train when we got to western Massachusetts on the way to Vermont into a couple of small towns...that train go up to 79 miles an hour! All aboard trains good planes bad

2:08:59 70 miles an hour! 79 miles an hour. That didn't quite hit 80. Even though cars can go 80 on the freeway, this train could not get to 80 but this is by his definition High-speed rail. We are limited by law in the great state of Texas to 85 miles an hour by car. Yeah, and high speed rail according this boat here. Beautiful! is 79 miles an hour. And he's bragging about this as though this is a big deal! We want to assure you that we got to 79 miles an hour, what the... What kind of maniac is this guy? Oh, the same people who think 350 parts per million is a big deal? Well they're all idiots. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab Oh yeah On NO AGENDA

CHAPTER 30 / 36 Discussion

Final Donor Acknowledgments and Whole Foods

The hosts complete the list of donors for the episode, including several birthday shout-outs. A brief tangent covers the experience of shopping at Whole Foods, with John C. Dvorak describing a massive new location in Oakland and the "pleasant" but expensive nature of the store.

whole foods· donations· karma· oakland· value-for-value· producers

2:10:01 We do have a few people to thank for show 688 and start off with Craig Cavell in Chicago, Illinois who donated one two three four five one of my favorite numbers Timothy Tillman in Prince George Virginia 118 15 Kyle Winfield in Cedar Park Texas From dude. He's a dude named Ben by the way 101 dollars and 1 cents Lon Baker, Walnut Creek California right up the road from me 100. Mark Crapel's in Wayne Pennsylvania $100. Crocutta Computer Services in Pacifica California a hundred. Frank Pugh in Tallahassee Florida 75. Nicholas Princep

2:10:46 in Raleigh, North Carolina. 7373 Sir Chris Abrams $73 in Arlington Virginia need some karma put some at the end for you there sir Rick in Arlington Washington 9069 33 Andy Benz in St. Louis, Missouri $68.80 David Helm in Fargo North Dakota has got a birthday deal coming up here $66.33 He bought groceries to make the double dip depression slave stew and the total came out to $66.33 on top of that it's my birthday on Sunday these things reminded me to donate

2:11:27 The double-dip depression slaves do shouldn't be that expensive. I think he bought a lot of other stuff with it Okay, because you got to buy the cheap cheap crappy meat Yeah, and you cook it for a long time then it's delicious. But yeah 66 30 times sure wasn't just meat. I'm guessing Bradley shell nut of course he could have gone to Whole Foods that would give you a racket up. We have a new Whole Foods that just opened up around the corner and like shopping there. You know what is? It's a pickup heaven. Oh there's a lot of women in looking around.

2:12:03 But they also have... I enjoy shopping there. They have a lot of variety and it's not cheap. They steal your money! Yeah, they're taking a lot of your money but everyone is very pleasant there all very knowledgeable You can ask them anything. They know exactly where it is, what's going on and they'll give you a whole story. Yeah! And there are some outstanding products I agree. Apparently...I was told by one of the checkers that in Oakland there is a massive Whole Foods maybe one of the biggest in the country now I have to go check out this thing is like a couple football fields another fine Austin company yeah well Bradley Shellnut in Mountain View 5555 another birthday in that list Aaron

2:12:47 Arnold, Arnold? Yeah. Arnold in Las Wages Nevada, Double Niggles on the Dime Sir HMFIC our buddy 5510. Head Mofo in charge answering the newsletter call he says thank you In Vermont It's the Black Knight of the US Army Randy Vizentine in Houston Texas double niggles on the dime David Alston yes we want to thank you for answering the call to that newsletter we did have things move things up a little bit. David Alston, UConn Oklahoma double nickels on the dime Jason Fortune parts unknown 5510 Sam Cutts in St Louis Park Minnesota 5510 another anonymous lesbian a different one Portland

2:13:32 Send pictures. 5510, please credit me as another anonymous lesbian great show hopes Fort picks up. Appreciate it when you keep the casual sexism to a minimum. Send pictures. That's minimalistic. It is not casual with him! Me? Yes. Send pictures. Casual minimalist. Christina Caldwell in Brisbane. By the way who has ever heard of a lesbian in Portland I'm shocked stunned Christina Cud, Portlandia. Christina Caldwell, Brisbane Queensland 55 and the following are $50 donors Edward Almaguer I think in Wachachi Texas? Waxahache? Yeah Almaguer I'd say. Is it Wa-cha-ha-chi? Wa-ka-hatchi? Wa-ka-hatchi. Waxahache. Anonymous Milton Ontario Michael D Brown in Highlands Ranch Colorado

2:14:30 Kajel of FEMA Region 3, Gwynne Oak Maryland. Kajel? I wonder if that's the same thing... Kajel. It was a moment of karma for my late mom Evelyn, of course! Right at the end. Kajel. Maybe it's K-gel. Could be K-gel. Stuart Fawcett in Liverpool UK. Edgar, you ever been to Liverpool? Yes, I have. I've always wanted to visit oh Really? It's terrible yeah, it's all right You know every news is not worth goes what you do when you're in Liverpool and you walk around just stop someone on the street And say hey where did the Beatles rehearse

2:15:09 Yeah, and then you get me to the groin. Edgar Decker, Scottsdale Arizona Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst Ontario Dave Evans these are all $50 donors Austin Texas Hey there's Dave again Michael Gates in Colorado Springs Colorado Rosalynn Furness in Turnbridge Wells Kent A lot of UK people today that's great John Camp in Antlers Oklahoma favorite name of a town Amitav Hajira in Daleville, Virginia. Linda McEvoy in Dublin Ireland and then we have a couple of Dame Melody Mann I think she's upgraded or something she is in Ringgold Louisiana and finally Sir Mark Tanner in Whittier. Kjell is Swedish an it's pronounced shell Shell Shell of FEMA region 3 Which is Sweden Apparently

2:16:09 Yes, anyway that it concludes our 86 88 Donors at the $50 level and higher yeah, let's definitely kick this up for Thursday show I have no reason why there are no understanding why Thursdays have been difficult But we'd love for you Yeah And on this next day in the week and all the rest of not sure people are starting to understand the value proposition more and more I find And you can it doesn't have to be these numbers. It can be under 50, it could be a monthly we have plenty of different programs You can get in on even if you want to be anonymous as well Of course love you considering being an executive producer or associate executive producer Whatever you do If you're enjoying the program is you derive some value from them give us some values so we can continue Is that simple? Or just go back to What was our who was the producer who?

CHAPTER 31 / 36 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony and No Agenda Rings

The show concludes its formal segment with a knighting ceremony for high-tier donors, including Dame Rocco of Portlandia and Sir Truman. The hosts encourage new knights and dames to share photos of their "No Agenda" rings and challenge coins on social media, praising the artistic quality of recent listener submissions.

knighting· dame rocco· sir truman· no agenda rings· challenge coins· round table

2:16:58 Who came in as an exec today, he was talking about how... Oh Bag Check that was our anonymous bag check guy. Who will be knighted today? We have some knights coming up. We certainly do. Alright! Thank you everybody. vorac.org slash na That's right. It's your birthday, birthday. I know that you can't... And we say happy birthday to David Helm turning uh well not sure it is his birthday today i don't know how old he is Bradley Shelnut says happy birthday to his friend Miles January 14 and himself who's celebrating today on January 18th and Christopher Lind Hartson will be 25 tomorrow

2:17:44 Happy birthday from all your friends here at the best podcast in the universe Then we congratulate sir Dwayne men off home Duke of mystery who is now changing to the Duke of the Pacific Northwest Which is Garu V and did? Did Truman want a particular title when we say I am you wanted? You might have had some of those see I don't know. I had because I had the note oh, that's right you have to Know I don't think so Nothing just sir. We'll just make him Sir, I think sir Truman sounds good does honestly and then we have Michael DeCocke who becomes sir de cock James Lavins daughter at others she'll become damn Rocco and anonymous okay? Let's say grab the blades

2:18:34 Wasn't a Dame Rocco something of Portlandia. Oh, yeah, Portlandia grab your blade man Yeah, I'm trying to get it out of here there you go Okay Miss Rocco of Portlandia and some anonymous guy in Plymouth. Come on up to the podium! All four of you now will be joining the round table of the dames and knights, and hereby I pronounce the KD Sir Truman, Sir Cocke Dame Rocco of Portlandia And Sir Stolz in order of Pugner! For you, my friends we have quite a list of hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay progressive rock and Russian imperial stout. We've got ass cream and bear fillings, Cuban cigars in single malt scotch hot pants and booze bong hits and bourbon And of course there's always the mutton and mead Head on over to noageneration.com slash rings and feel free to tweet out pictures

2:19:31 of your rings. Yeah, we had a good one the other day I did retweet it was the guy had his ring he had a couple of challenge coins and it was very well framed It looked very professional. It was artistic Yes, it's very good Very beautiful I agree I saw that too it was nice We're done No were not I have two things A couple things here If you want to go to new segment we can do tech news Whoa, oh man you be making me crazy with that. I'm ready Remember there's nothing like tech news when someone says it's been a while since I've seen in Nokia like that I

CHAPTER 32 / 36 Discussion

Robot Revolution and Chappie Movie Promotion

Media reports on "personal assistant robots" in San Jose stores are identified as a public relations campaign for the upcoming movie "Chappie." John C. Dvorak recalls similar "Year of the Robot" predictions from 1982 involving Nolan Bushnell's AND Robot company. The segment critiques the recurring "beer-fetching robot" trope as a solution in search of a problem.

robots· chappie· nolan bushnell· amazon· san jose· artificial intelligence

2:20:24 It is Sunday. It's time for tech news are you going up to? No, no Portland today uninvited Whenever you want Well, tech news. What do you got John? I'm going to tell you. I got a robot report this sound dude's an intro kind of actually let me see before you run it. I will mention that this sound is robot report sounds vaguely familiar and Alex Blaine after the report is over. This sounds like the stuff of science fiction but we may be just a few years away from having our own personal robots to help out with household chores. Chris Van Cleve reports The Robot Revolution has already taken hold at one popular San Jose store

2:21:03 I can help you find things in the store. At this California hardware store, the future is now. Sure follow me The Oshbot helps customers find what they're looking for. You're looking for unique items something like this is ideal The test program is part of a robot revolution from a cruise ship bartender to an all-seeing security guard Or a hotel butler. Robots are increasingly joining the workforce, hospitals are using them to disinfect exam rooms and Amazon employs an army of robots to fill orders this robot technology could soon be coming too many homes

2:21:43 where the future comes to life? We hope so. Peter Allen is a robotics professor at the Columbia University School of Engineering in New York he sees a bright future where people can buy their own personal robot assistant People are going to say you know I want one too, you know fold my laundry or answer my door or go get me beer from the fridge Alright. Okay, that last thing in particular was the fridge again now this of course we if you do any research which I failed to do often but this time i didn't This is obviously a precursor planet story God knows what who

2:22:21 who's behind it, but it was a public relations company to promote the movie Chappie. It comes out on March 2015 and Chappie as the story is after being kidnapped by two criminals during birth, Chappie becomes the adopted son of this strange and dysfunctional family. The Gifted, one of a kind. Prodigy also happens to be a robot. So it's the Robot Buddy movie coming out in March and so let's talk about robots but what I got a kick out of was this bring you a beer which is what triggered this to me. Isn't that isn't that what you have a wife for? Well

2:22:58 The Bring Me a Beer robot appeared in 1981, 1982 when Androbot was actually a company run by Nolan Bushnell. And in the 80s when I was the editor of InfoWorld at that time we did what's gonna happen next year and it's a yearly prediction thing where you ask different experts to show up... Yeah, yeah. What's gonna happen? We're gonna have wearables! wearables. Everybody predicted that 1982, I believe was the year it was targeted, was going to be the Year of the Robot! Now the Year of the Robot...

2:23:34 Bushnell had these two robots that he came out with, and then there was all these other robots that showed up. And they were useless robots. They were programmed by an Apple and usually had to be hooked up to the Apple to do anything. Which robot was this? This was the AND Robot Company, and there was two robots that he designed. If you look up AND Robot on Wiki, the wiki, you'll find... You'll find the robots list. They have names I can't remember what their names are But the one thing that was noteworthy, was at the Comdex show that year they had these robots and one was specifically designed to get a beer.

2:24:10 So so this is nothing new. This is old But the robot has some little basket, and then he took it was like a ride He rode to the refrigerator I have no idea how we managed open the refrigerator, but he pulled out the refrigerant There's a special device in there that was like one of those things for a lionel train That would put barrels on up not a car And if they would be rolled down this little thing into the little basket The robot had and then the robot will close the door and go all the way back and give you the beer So I heard this is it. Oh my god the beer, this is like 30 years ago Let me have the official trailer This is some movie John Hugh Jackman Sigourney Weaver yeah, let's see what's going on here and see This has been approved for appropriate audiences so um that should be okay for the no agenda listener hit it tension music

2:25:06 Here comes Chappy. Vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Wow Okay, that looks horrible. Well it's good. Yeah this These are all solutions looking for a problem that has been ongoing Ever since I've been involved in anything computers which goes back to the Sinclair Zed x80

2:25:54 Think that was my first computer. Yeah, yeah no it's always been a yeah you're right It's exactly as I've always been you know the fridge will know when to order the milk Yeah all this bullcrap. You know robot gets you a beer I'd take a blowjob well No, but better be better looking in this chappy things horrible-looking thing uh... as a given state to infer chat you hear if you more robot stories out there and promoting chad right not directly promoted that's the k cool thing about it yet he'll have your they just make you aware still wearing this thing that that works so well is good it's good well while we're on public and close the tech news segment yes i was alright

CHAPTER 33 / 36 Discussion

Al Sharpton and Oscar Diversity Complaints

Al Sharpton called for an "emergency meeting" to address the lack of diversity in the Academy Award nominations, specifically citing the "snub" of the film "Selma." The hosts criticize Sharpton as an "extortionist" and argue that Hollywood's perceived racism is often ignored by the media because the industry's leaders are prominent Democrats.

al sharpton· oscars· selma· diversity· hollywood· racism

2:26:40 Alright, that's tech news. But let's stay with movies! This year, is the Academy Awards like this Sunday today or tonight? When is it? No I think its in about three or four weeks. So we had the nominations Oh yeah and did you hear about Sharpton? no oh yeah big headlines Sharpton calls for an emergency meeting at The White House regarding these awards because apparently let's see what their headline says They're racist yes Yes I know but this is what im tying into with a clip Sharpton, this is a... Al Sharpton calls emergency meeting. Emergency meeting? This was all white Oscar list! Hold on a second How can they put up with this idiot? But wait a minute Who did he call for an emergency meeting at the White House? Well he's the White House good guy I know but now i want to know what this is hold on a second He actually let me see Sharpton Emergency Meeting This is The only good nomination was Selma Well no, Selma is the problem

2:27:45 Because Selma did not get all of the nominations it should have. And, of course, Oprah didn't get nominated so this is the real problem. The Queen has now been nominated. Al Sharpton criticized for calling emergency meeting... He calls emergency meeting? Let's just see here. Because it's an emergency! It is! We need to stop this immediately. Okay. So all of a sudden everywhere There's this thing going around the Oscar nominating committee white racists hate the black man Hate the black man. Hate the black woman This is why Selma has been snubbed

2:28:21 And they had an actual conversation about this. Oh, I'm sorry we need to have a conversation about this is a conversation We should have in America a conversation about our Oscars. We need an emergency meeting according to Los Angeles Times investigation 94% of the Academy 6,000 plus voting members were white as of 2012 racist It also says that after that investigation came out, the Academy made efforts to be more diverse in terms of those who vote on the videos. Less racist! It also notes that an African American has been president of the Academy since 2013. Token! Mark, to you are these things considered in the debate?

2:29:02 They should be considered, but again certain forms of representation don't make the problem resolved. There's a president of the United States doesn't mean that race isn't still an issue Hollywood has a diversity problem. Hollywood has diversity problems in production at the production level in terms of who gets green light for films and in terms of who gets represented on screen That's something we have to work through just because a black person doesn't get an award doesn't mean Hollywood is racist But let's be clear Hollywood is racist. There you go! Just to be clear, Hollywood is racist Unbelievable! We need, we have to find something. Ah, Hollywood's racist? My good... Yes hello yes Hollywood is racist did you not read the emails why are the why are these Hollywood bigwigs Rudin and the woman the Sony Sony girl Why have they not been vilified No no because they're Democrats

2:29:57 And the only thing they get is, well insensitive. It's really not nice that our emails were exposed to the public. Bullshit! These people are racist cocksuckers. You like your new liberal voice? You like my liberal voice? You're picking it up from Texas I think so...I have to tell you. Like it's a good voice. It's kind of a little bit of Valley Girl but you have to throw some Rachel Maddow in there. Yeah you also have kinda swallowing it somehow. A little nasal But really, the Hollywoods are racialized. So that's what Al Sharpton should have called an emergency meeting about one of the biggest producers in the business. They nailed it! They're Democrats can't do that and I'm sure they headed the Academy... That black guy is probably a Republican

2:30:41 You know it's like the black Republic there is nothing you know what's next here was next I This is coming. You ready for write it down the book write it down write it down write it down NASCAR is racist No, black NASCAR drivers Is there one single black man a NASCAR driver? No, there might be in the lesser not in the cup. Not on the top category Racist I tell you it's good old boys racist keeping the black man down where really the black man is just thinking bitch I'm like getting in that car That's how the black man crazy It's just crazy. I like a driver on and left-hand turn the whole time that's just nuts Basketball was racist oh, I'm sorry. That's reverse racism what am I talking about?

2:31:26 Oh, I hate of all the things. I don't like you know yeah there's the fear mongering about you know ISIS and the brand Isis and we're going to come and kill you and be if your cower in the corner okay but really the racist thing like this a-hole Al Sharpton he makes me mad this guy is an extortionist he's a crook! He's a crook! And then he gets to call emergency meetings Crook crook. Thankfully, the whole government is crooked and this was I think one of the best... It's too bad Matt didn't ask the question it would have been a fine Matt and Marie show

CHAPTER 34 / 36 Discussion

Afghanistan Opium Production and State Department Failure

A State Department press briefing addressed the failure of a $4 billion counter-narcotics program in Afghanistan, where opium production has reached record highs. Spokesperson Marie Harf struggled to answer why production increased despite the massive spending, eventually stating she would have to "check with her folks" regarding the SIGAR report.

afghanistan· opium· poppy production· marie harf· sigar· state department

2:32:08 Marie Harf did have to answer the question first here. She is Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction said that the State Department spent four billion on counter narcotic initiatives in Afghanistan Despite this the United Nations reported that Afghanistan set a record for producing opium in 2014 and 80% of total opium production in the world comes from Afghanistan. Was it the goal of the United States government to eradicate poppy production in Afghanistan while we've had horses there for 13 years? All right, before we go to the answer... First off this girl is new to the press corps. Oh she's gonna be kicked out! She was nice I don't know her name but she's very cute. It was a great question by the way and i don't use that lightly because i always ridicule people who say that but i think in this context it was a great question

2:33:06 She looked at the one thing, $4 billion being spent on drugs in Afghanistan. Some way to use it was a marketing that 4 billion for marketing and distribution has got to be what it was used for. It's just that's just for local marketing and craft services Dr. McKeon Absolutely, so that's... Dr. Justin Marchegiani Actually, that was where most of it went. Four main meals in the fields. Dr. McKeon So the question is why if we put $4 billion over 13 years into eradicating poppies and as you know, we looked at the United Nations Office for Drugs and something its office and drugs whatever

2:33:49 that when they say poppy production is up, they literally mean the fields are bigger. There are more poppy fields. So this $4 billion was somehow not sufficient To reduce the size of the poppy fields Which are right next to all the camps and we assume that the four billion dollars wasn't really used to reduce anything but maybe this is by some plowing gear and hire some people That's four thousand million dollars. It's a lot of money 4,000 million dollars

2:34:30 For some poppy fields. Well, let's listen to the answer. Let me check with our folks obviously Folks we need to check with our folks. Let me check with our folks about that I'm not so sure we've had forces there for 13 years Let me check with our folks Obviously while we've had a military operations and underway in Afghanistan We have focused on other issues. We were busy We were busy with other stuff. Including the narcotics trade, certainly we've talked about this a lot and I know we have put a great deal of effort into helping the Afghans grow their capabilities to crack down on this... No no you had to help them grow there are the capabilities for more! You haven't grown capabilities for more growing

2:35:08 Please. Check with our team and see, I hadn't seen that Segar report. Oh we have to check with our team about the $4 billion dollars? How annoying! We're helping the Afghans grow their capabilities to crack down on this let me check with our team and see i hadn't seen that Segar report. The Congressional Research Service says quote after 2014 the State Department does not plan to have a permanent counter narcotics president presence outside Kabul has the US government given up on trying to stop post-war Afghanistan from being the opium production capital? I can certainly answer your second question and say no obviously. No, hello! In terms of staffing and where people are located uh i can check and see if there's a specific reason for that but clearly we have people in Afghanistan and back at the State Department very focused on this issue yes i would say this is the best question and the best answer i've heard out in the state department in years

2:36:01 He didn't answer the question. That's why it's a great, great question and great answer! She said she literally said I gotta talk to my folks. Ah...I'm not familiar with this report. Yeah, she's not as good as Saki would have had a tab for this Yeah, but that's why I'm saying this girl is coming in. She's some kind of Shiloh Rama You know that I have never seen her before she has you know her eyes are she has mascara on but we're kind of the The way some women do it where? You look like a raggedy and all like the you know Like your big popping eyes with the you know with your your lashes like hey

CHAPTER 35 / 36 Discussion

Ronald Reagan, Bobby Kennedy, and Book TV Anecdotes

An anecdote from C-SPAN's Book TV claims that Robert Kennedy was Ronald Reagan's "arch-villain" and was responsible for Reagan losing his job at General Electric Theater in 1962. The segment also touches on a new photography book about the band Blondie, featuring Debbie Harry, and the hosts' appreciation for the concise nature of Book TV presentations.

ronald reagan· bobby kennedy· general electric· c-span· debbie harry· blondie

2:36:39 I need to know who she is. Big poppin' eyes! Yeah, you know what i mean though right? With the... Yeah yeah Emma Stone does that look pretty well Yes yes an Emma Stone look very good exactly exactly exactly ran into an interesting little tidbit on book tv which is one of the things i really enjoy c-span 3 i watch it all the time And, um... This is a little anecdote for the Reagan followers. Oh, Reagan was the greatest! This guy wrote a book on Reagan and he worked with him since the 50s apparently and he says that Reagan never had any friends which I thought was interesting but he had this little apparently

2:37:19 feud or I guess it didn't last that long because the guy was assassinated, but he had a thing going on that I think was interesting to me anyway with Bobby Kennedy who have always believed this kind of corrupt character at some level. Reagan had a hero in the form of Eisenhower, but he also had a villain. Not well understood is the arch-villain in Reagan's life was Robert Kennedy He became Reagan's supreme nemesis for unusual reasons In 1961 upon becoming his brothers Attorney General Bobby Kennedy pursued corruption with a vengeance as a sidebar He also

2:38:02 targeted political opponents. In February of 62, Kennedy hauled Reagan before a grand jury two weeks later after that the Justice Department subpoenaed Reagan's tax returns The matter never resulted in an indictment but in April of that year Reagan lost his job as host at the General Electric Theater Reagan's teenage kids got that news over lunch one Sunday. I just lost my job, the future president told his son Michael. The Kennedys threatened General Electric His daughter Maureen confirmed that conversation in her memoirs saying quote Bobby Kennedy had a hand in this cancellation

2:38:48 Wow, I think I've heard this about the General Electric thing. I don't know whether... General Electric seems to be just a corrupt opera or they get pushed around a lot? I don't know what it is but it's there. Who was running GE back then not Welch who was running GE back then? No that's pre-Welch I don't know. Must be must be. But that was just a good little thing to know. Was this on the Discovery Channel where they do history? No no this was on C-SPAN Book TV. Right right right. Everybody has a book. And by the way, I like Book TV because you don't have to read these books! They bring these guys on and they pretty much tell you everything that's in the book and the thesis and this and the subplots and everything from the beginning of the end...and it is concise from the horse's mouth from the book author and you felt like you've read the book It's very convenient little show

2:39:41 Yeah, I like reading the book though. I like reading the book too. Some books like The Hindus that you couldn't possibly talk about would be 20 hours long but But some of these Lester books, you know I don't really feel like reading. I might rather hear what the guy's interesting and done well I started to read the man that thing is a big book. I got the hardcover the What? Wendell the one you recommended about the world history Quigley quiggly book yeah, and have you under bridge they've got the right one I don't have but he got the right one even still get it still on Amazon They write one Yeah That's the way and it's a beautiful book just to you know

2:40:21 Oh, and it's a great read. And what I like about it is you can read it like the Bible! Yeah... It's not really that linear. Yeah, I've been just trying to plow through it. I started at the beginning but it's a big book. It's thick. Yeah, it's a monster. Then we got this other book which is Blondie's photographed by her husband Chris. It's all...it's a picture book Yes, I know that. It's beautiful. 70s bands in New York. A lot of it, of course Debbie Harry. It's mostly around Debbie Harry and you and oh man no wonder we were so in love with her. So beautiful I got to run into her once in New York Oh really? Yeah I don't think that's one person No I don't think I've ever met her Wow she still around Of course yes I need to go on the quest to meet Debbie Harry

CHAPTER 36 / 36 Discussion

Grexit, Schengen Visas, and Show Sign-Off

The show wraps up with news about the potential "Grexit" (Greece exiting the Euro) and the suspension of Schengen borderless travel in parts of Europe. They mock a Lithuanian "survival manual" for a Russian invasion before signing off with a social media-themed song and a reminder of the show's value-for-value model.

grexit· schengen· lithuania· russia· propaganda· social media

2:41:19 We were playing it, you know Fab 5 Freddy the Rapture man. That was the jam that was our jam first I would say first crossover rap Debbie Harry with a rapture Okay Russia says to Greece exit Europe and we will lift the food import ban This is coming up on the 25th this is going to be very interesting to see what happens with this snap election And I mean, I think everyone's ready for it. I think the Grexit is real. Meanwhile we are seeing Schengen visas being...the Schengen area of visas being annulled. I think that this would make some... So you have the Schengen agreement, the Schengen region which is... Where's the Schengen region? This is the borderless Europe EU and

2:42:18 Basically, the UK is the number one guys who are not a part of it. So if you fly in or out, if you come into the UK your passport gets checked It's not a free walk on through and if you fly from the UK to any other EU country a member state I should say Your pass when you go through passport control They yeah, even though you have right now. Okay? I remember that's the shanghai area shanghai area Yeah, the shades European countries that have abolished passport control right which is hilarious when you're driving around the area You go right past the thing it used to be passport control yeah, but okay But part of there's a lot of this ago the part of this is also The ESTA program which has now been called for in US Congress to at least kick some countries off

2:43:10 That's the visa waiver program. Which would be a horrible mistake, but this is you know these boneheads they think oh we have to do this Oh immigration oh they're coming ISIS gonna come and kill us yeah sick and tired brand Isis gonna come in and kill us But anyway in Europe so everyone's all freaked out about all kinds of things Russia Of course now we have What is the most recent thing that Russia has done Well, here's Lithuania. This is from RT. Was this from RT? I'm not sure... Yeah the mocking tone makes it from RT. Lithuania is preparing!

2:43:49 for the Russian invasion. A Russian occupation survival manual is to be distributed in Lithuania, the country's defense minister said it cannot rule out future Russian aggression following its alleged activities in Ukraine and it seems pretty serious genuine wartime advice like this keeping a sound mind and not panicking that's key to surviving occupation don't panic save water but if things get really bad perhaps you can resort to drinking out of the toilet Don't get curious if you hear fighting, just run for your life. But keep in mind that gunshots outside your window is not the end of the world. You can fight the occupiers with strikes and rallies and don't try too hard at work. Oh there's no winning! We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere but we laugh a lot now everyone hug and share a secret. There ya go alright That's a goodie Yeah that is classic yeah that's what happening

2:44:46 And I am really enjoying reading all the European publications about the Muslim problem, which has been on the radar for a good 20 years and here it is. Incited, induced or not... It is really, really messing with people's heads. Yeah well that's how it works. Now those of you listening to the NO Agenda Show best podcast in the universe obviously you know how to look through this and past this. Do not be scared and sickened, literally made ill by the propaganda which is what we do. And for that very reason we need your support. Dvorak.org slash NA remember us throughout this coming week and of course will be back on Thursday Keep an eye out for number 33. 33 should be around and look out for something in India? Something going on in India? Something

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