Non-linear War

00:00 Absolutely. Let's get some dirt on this and show that it is bogus. Digesting my Sunday pancakes, baked from the ISIS recipe book. And back in FEMA Region 6 Austin Texas capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from rain drenched northern Silicon Valley on the lookout for online scams I'm John C Duborek So I left all that in

00:40 All of our web IQ. Stupid quiz! They're doing more things like this if you want to read an article... It was idiotic, this quiz it was idiotically simple Anyone that listens to our show could have gotten 100% on this except for the Moore's Law thing if they parsed it correctly Yeah well I know you're angry But it's okay. I just find it annoying that they pull this crap and then they tell us we got one wrong Have you noticed this new gateway feature if you want to read the article answer a survey question? That's not that new. Oh, maybe I'm just seeing it now Yeah, I've seen it a couple times Other It's always other

01:19 Other For me it is give them bad answers. Hey, you told me to do something after the show the last one we had in Amsterdam Yes, and I did it this legislation is important The substance is right The time is right and the way in which it has been developed is right. It's a properly considered, thought through set of proposals that will help to keep us safe at a time of very significant danger. It has been drawn up in close consultation with police and security services In open and free society like ours we can never entirely eliminate threat from terrorism but we must do everything possible consistent with our values as a country

01:57 to reduce the risk presented by our enemies. It is a struggle that will go on for many years, and the threat we face right now is perhaps greater than it ever has been." And we must have the powers we need... ...to defend ourselves. Yes, that was good. Oh, and you like the I like the way slowed her down more and yeah Yeah, yeah, I thought you liked good. I'm glad you liked that yeah That's very good. I just like that again need their background me. I think we can use them well You know where that's from a background music? I think it's from Rubicon

02:39 Oh, really? Let me see. Do I have it here... let me see.. I think so Rubicon which has been taken off the- used to be a free people could watch it for free on Amazon It's gone! No baby. Disappeared and you can't get Rubicon anyway anyhow anymore. I know let me see I think ummm I think I have it Well the problem is what I liked about when was on Amazon they had in HD because they never played in HD no it's not Rubicon hmm something else I don't know but I'll find it for ya I'll let you know Anyway, I'm back back from the lowlands and then I'm back. Mm-hmm You're back on the highlands Highlands the wetlands we are back at home base funny how when we're back at home base It's taken us you know seven years but boy does it sound good when were home that sound pretty good last time Oh, yeah what we did is right? We didn't have any any real technical issues true oh man, let's start with your experience coming back into the homeland

03:42 I was perfect. I had my global entry, zipped right through... Perfect! I had no problems either. I had pre-check Even though you were not actually an interviewed trusted traveler? Yeah, you had your pre check. Had a pre check and waltzed right through Trying to think if there's something funny that happened at the airport It wasn't to me though You know, I have an interesting Uber driver at Austin Bergstrom Airport going home. And again, it was a Dodge Caravan that didn't... I ordered the Uber X because I got the suitcase. No no no! I figured the UberX or XL whatever it's called, I figured that would be a little nicer but...

04:31 Another Dodge Caravan is just stinky and nasty. And you know, not always that way as we have a we have them I think they come that way don't they come? Yeah, they actually it's an it's a feature you add it's an extra exactly how stinky do you want your care exactly Would you like horse smell, barnyard? So I'm talking to the driver because i'm interested. You know, there's so many reports now about Uber and of course ever since we recognized that this actually does signal the beginning of Armageddon because now we have the middle class taking their car and driving puking people around This guy was young though um he was originally from Ethiopia

05:17 And he'd been in, he's a citizen and naturalized citizen. He had just graduated UT and was...He wanted to do his masters at Texas University in business. And he was driving the Uber because he wanted to pay off his student loan And he said, you know 13 months and had like nine more months to go. And it was about a whatever it was... He said he could just about make it and kind of survive by driving the Uber but It's really a $10-an-hour job when it boils down to it But it was really nice because here was a guy who says I believe in the American dream You know me, oh! Do we listen to our president version of that?

06:03 He says, yeah. Thank God there was someone who really had that vision you know? You come in here and you can make it! You can be that guy and he said I live in all these other countries as shit. He said he lived in England because nowhere is like America's the best country in the world And by coincidence maybe not...I came across a interview of Gregory Clark of UC Davis That's up near you Yeah, where is that Davis in Davis? Oh yeah, it's just north of Sacramento over to the hippie college

06:40 The hippie college is UC Santa Cruz. Okay, I thought Davis was... No, Davis is the Aggies and he has a very interesting topic A local college professor has determined there is no American dream The American Dream is an illusion Well first of all yeah we got to agree on that Of course it's an illusion! Well if you went to Davis absolutely correct America has no higher rate of social mobility than medieval England or pre-industrial Sweden. That's the most difficult part about talking about social mobility is because it is shattering people's dreams

07:21 crunch numbers in the US from the past 100 years. His data shows the so-called American dream that hard work leads to more opportunities is an illusion and that by the way I don't think that is the truth, but I don't think that as part of the American dream that hard work you make it if you think it is well maybe a subset Well, that would be part of. Okay but you know the American dream is you build a better mousetrap You know? I don't know if that's true That's part of it or... You're getting a skewed version no thanks to Obama

07:59 I've been influenced American dream that a hard work leads to more opportunities is an illusion But I think opportunities come for different reasons, but okay Well, I'll let it pass and that social mobility here is no different than the rest of the world Social mobility fear. I didn't know there was a heck is that? It sounds bogus Ethiopians got it right Your grandchildren, your great-grandchildren and your great-great-grandchildren is going to be quite closely related to your average status now. It's no American dream! Professor Clark says it's the American reality. The good news is that this is coming from an economist because economists are used to being unpopular

08:41 And so we are the right people to bear this message that yes, the world is a limiting place. Well Professor Clark's study was published by the Council on Foreign Relations, a think tank specializing in US foreign policy... I left that in it just wanted you to hear it. Very funny! Yes and I know why he left it in. More bogus crap. The guy by the way sounds like he has purse lips Dr. Justin Marchegiani Small pince-nez on his nose. Evan Brand Pince-nez, yes. Dr. Justin Marchegiani And he's smoking with a cigarette holder. Evan Brand Not but I think it is important to point out that the American dream pays off in many different ways we cannot all be

09:21 Zuckerberg or what? Yeah, you'd be Zuckerberg. There's plenty of room for more podcasters which is also a part of the American dream This is true there is plenty of room for more podcasters Redbook John the barrier Red book red book read book but okay They haven't got to get to the right page they haven't picked it up yet But they're working on it I'm sure this has came in from NBC The Afghan police Shot down and killed a bird carrying a bomb This is really funny, so they have this video. There's no other there's just there's just wild sounds like it's just like a Photoshop or a view no No After Effects know if you look at so they had this poor bird who's been shot shot apart bomb And he has a little transmitter with little antenna I can see the artists that work now that dude do our show no no no Okay, but I'm gonna tell you what this is

10:22 So one of our producers did a freeze-frame on this video, and you can see the tag from ECCH in Tajikistan... Uzbekistan with the telephone number. And it's the ecch.ub.org This was a research bird with a tracking device! From Uzbekistan? Sure Uzbekistan is not like all sand bunnies dancing around. Uzbekistan is like the last holdout of the old communist empire. It even says here, contact... Horrible place. Oh it's ecch.uz I guess dot org

11:08 So this was just it was just a research bird, but now NBC is like oh bird bomb watch And I'm waiting for this to play out waiting for this to play out that that the crazy bomb maker in Yemen has come up with bird bombs Do you have in the book? I'm putting into the book and highlight it and the whole thing well. Yeah good there we go bird bombs AC Bird bomb For a band into one of the football games in the Bay Area to the Seagulls come and there's plenty of bird bombs Let me tell you right. Oh

11:47 Well, we are of course on the air broadcasting with our podcast best one in universe. I'm reliably informed While the rest of the media is about to kick off an entire month of retrospectives and year-end lists Yeah, it's a great way to pad the weak coverage that they have to begin with of anything yeah And we will continue to keep our heads down Well, I'm on the lookout as usual. Since you brought this up a little few minutes ago about memes and American Dream and the rest... And we have talked to...and I'll remind people that we do have the tape, tape, recording of the guy who is a consultant goes to Hollywood has him drop meme bombs into scripts to promote certain agendas in the agenda that shows up in this particular clip was global warming

12:42 Of course I'm looking for the clip and it just smacked my lips. Uh, I haven't heard myself do that but i still have not heard the yes no coming out of my own mouth. I'll let you know when the yes-no hits. Yeah, you always let me know but...I don't know why I can't hear it? I have this one for you though this was interesting. Notice that is yeah, yeah. Yeah guy with lip smacking. Yeah, that's great I busted you. I thought you were this was an original okay? I'm just

13:27 Here it is okay. Jeez this is the omfg clip you're not even I want you to count the number of really funny memes That they throw in here This is the news this newsroom is still on apparently, and so they have a new episode I can't watch it. I can't watch it girl who's the blonde kind of Square-headed round face girl yeah was a wannabe reporter she's she's but yes She's kind of the the main character, although not really because it's supposed to be Mac and... Yeah she is the sub-main character. Right yeah And she is on a train and a guy has got a document he is going to give her and tells what its about or what they are gonna do and then she takes that document and goes back to her car mate or person that was chatting with earlier and then exchange numbers so she could get together

14:18 Just make a list of how many memes you can catch in this thing because they are some gems in this baby. This report won't be released for a week, the White House got it today but they wont show to the president until at least Monday. It's yours along with an exclusive interview What's in it? The level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has passed a long feared milestone. The amount of poison gas in the air hasn't been this high in 3 million years since before there were humans We get to report You get to report Embargo them till Monday and an exclusive interview With who? Me Any chance we can get the administrator

15:01 There hasn't been an administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency for a while because Senate Republicans won't confirm one and the president doesn't want to waste political capital. Though I'm not sure what he's saving it up for." And that statement was on the record. Be careful when you're talking out loud in public. I was careful Okay, but you just told a train car full of people that the apocalypse is over. Damn it! It's alright nobody is listening. It's nice meeting you Jack. I've got to get my bag Isn't that your bag? This is a month's rent for me. It's my executive producers. I don't know your name Maggie Jordan. I'd love to call you

15:51 Here's my card. Great! And Jack, I've got a report here from the EPA that says you probably shouldn't wait that long Unbelievable! We're all going to die. It starts off with we're all gonna die, it's beyond this over the edge is one of the first memes is over the edge were already too late as you do tipping point we've passed that as a course we've been since we began our show seven years ago we've been every day is like we just pass the tipping point there's nothing we can do The other thing is, I love the way...the thing that really caught my attention was the way they changed the carbon dioxide to poison gas. Yeah! First it was a carbon pollution and then indeed it became carbon gas?

16:45 Let me play that to them. They actually says... Poison gas, poison gas you're right. Poison gas so in other words and of course this is the anti-human part of it because we exhale... Poison gas, poison gas. So we're exhaling... Poison gas. That's right but you are poisoning. You are in fact... There's nothing in the world where we call carbon dioxide poison gas. It is not poison gas under any circumstances. It is not poisonous Yeah, here's the here's a little it is of lack of oxygen But it's not poisonous. Here's the Lear foundation thing again so in the course of our work this is In two years 11 to 13 335 storylines that we worked on Have been aired We've worked with 35 networks in the past four years 91 different television shows that is Martin Kaplan and

17:40 for the Lear Foundation at the Hollywood Health and Society meeting. Yes, well this is of course part of the propagandistic messaging. And I liked the last two ones that want to throw in there was a few in the middle they Republicans are responsible for everything, they're bad and also you mentioned Armageddon you've talked too loud you're telling everyone it's Armageddon assuming that is and then last call me soon because we're all gonna die from the poison gas! The whole thing was disgusting Well, what do you want to tackle? The propaganda or the global warming. I can go both ways. I don't care. You...I threw the ball at you and got it now. Yeah, you did. The World Bank has released a report, a 320-page report which I of course looked

18:38 That's a good reading on the plane. I didn't get it actually until yesterday, so I came home and as I'm chomping up some jerky Which i'd like to eat some nice bison jerky? I'm reading the report the report is so it's very beautifully done The you really have to see this of course It's in the show notes and marked up here and there at 674.noagendanotes.com So imagine the background is a tree with circles, so you know A slice of a tree trunk so that you can see the circles Then in the middle of the circle it moves into the foreground where we have four degrees And the degree is the little circle that's in the middle of the tree Slice Does that make any sense?

19:26 Yeah, yeah. No I get it yes no yeah no and the title is turn down the heat confronting the new climate normal the new climate normal and Yes, and the assertion of this entire report is It's too late we can't change anything We're all too late again Mm-hmm. Yes Even very ambitious mitigation can't change the fact that the world has already locked in mid-century warming of 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial times." Locked and loaded! Locked in! So this report, and I think this is a very smart thing to do... ...is focused entirely on mitigation and resilience and grit

20:19 as the warming will bring increased threats to food and water security, and jeopardizes poverty reduction efforts. The report confirms past admission. You know what they've managed to do here? They've managed to give themselves an out totally on their crappy attempts to reduce poverty Yeah, so it doesn't even matter if if we bring it all the way down but we could Not our fault It's a global warming and here's here's what I mean. I'm always looking at the background So this is the World Bank, International Bank for Reconstruction and Development. Mind you this is what they do... They're putting out a report that puts them in the foreground of the guys to rebuild and prepare for the inevitable apocalypse or Armageddon. Might as well have been a report by Bechtel! Well, this work was prepared for The World Bank by the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research & Climate Analytics. Gee, think they're biased?

21:21 The findings, interpretations and conclusions expressed in this work do not necessarily reflect the views of the World Bank its Board of Executive Directors or the governments they represent. The World Bank does not guarantee the accuracy of data included in this commissioned work Thanks After I read that so they paid for this and it's a don't even back it well there. There you know That's their hedging, you know that did that is another out just giving themselves an hour Well, you know after you know every terrible the information shifted the other way let's say goes with global cooling Oh well we never move in there We said right here though. We didn't really trust the information Exactly now let me see what I have

22:04 Uh, dramatic climate change and weather extremes are already affecting millions of people around the world damaging crops and coastlines and putting water- and...and...putting water security at risk. Across the three regions studying this report record breaking temperatures are occurring more frequently rainfall has increased in intensity in some places while drought prone regions like the Mediterranean are getting drier a significant increase in tropical North Atlantic cyclone activity is affecting the Caribbean and Central America um So you can pretty much imagine this report is all about we need to build and you should come to us in partnership, the World Bank that is. And spend money! To build...and I looked at this outfit the Potsdamer Institute did this particular study. I'm just opening it up here. It's at pic-potsdam.de

23:06 This is a, if you look at this is another one of those. You know what? Let's just skip this one that's all the board of trustees and the Board of Directors I get very tired when I look at all these organizations that are involved in this and... ...you just see the same people over and over again and disconnected directly to The World Bank telling us that there's no other way to go than into resilience mode And I was going to connect that to something else and slip my mind. Hold on. It's not like, I'm struggling. Guys have heard of bottom. I can't find it as wide as anybody listened to them. Fog me their Institute which is also part of the same scam network. Yeah you nailed it yeah this scam the whole scam horrible just we could make a just kind of a tape of what I just did yep

24:01 Instead of that, let's go to Russia. Russia! Russia! Russia! I've been working with the... Coincidentally. I'm sorry? I got a lot of good stuff from Russia Good. I believe there is sufficient evidence to show that there is a putsch underway for Russia but regime change is the mission and it has begun And this starts with, of course, with the gays. That's why Brian The Gay Crusader alerted me... Now you're taking it as you finally took a meta look at this? I like this already! Thank you. Uh, I can't take all the credit for it because sometimes it takes someone like Brian The Gay Crusader to jar me and be like, oh okay so we have this report that comes out by the... Brian The Gay Crusader seems to be a little cozy recently Yeah

24:59 Yeah, yeah. Well I see another regime change Dvorak's out We need that we need the balance man it's like they won't work with the two of us on the show this was a What nothing go on just do your analysis? Okay, it started with an AP report. And we know the AP is bogative and crap but you gotta follow this stuff now I thought Associated Press was kind of... that's the gold standard. No! Scores of Russian gays are seeking asylum in US

25:40 Okay, yeah. This is already good. All right now but this is very interesting when you see how this message has been propagated You know I'm gonna stop you for a second Why? Just as a background just want to make mention that Putin ever since he took over the oil companies This sort of thing... PUTIN! Anyway go on continue Oh, I'm sorry Okay, the number here is 969 applications for asylum by Russia in 2014 fiscal year up 34% from 2012. Not up 33 that's a plus mm-hmm should have done that so notice they're Up 34 percent from 2012 Fiscal year 2014 there's no mention of 2013 this is the kind of bogative numbers that

26:30 You have to pay attention to but this actually came out 969 oh yeah, I know isn't it annoying? This report was already out in October 15th so now we're more than a month later Associated Press decides to write this and We again have the number. This is from it started with a report from Radio Free Europe slash Radio Liberty. Now as you know, Radio Free Europe slash Radio Liberty is a United States State Department funded outfit and the broadcast... Is it the Board of Governors? Yeah they maintain this and of course this is one of these outfits that was specifically mentioned with the overturn of the Smith-Mundt Act

27:32 Because you can't have, you know a Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty. They're not just broadcasting over there in Europe and towards Russia They're also on the internet with reports like this which is pure propaganda but again The United States received 969 new asylum applications from Russian nationals in the 2014 fiscal year And I'm going to bring up... let me just bring this up here I have the numbers from the past years of asylum from people seeking asylum from Russia. I believe these numbers are total numbers, they're not even gay numbers. It's funny... Gay numbers? Okay. We have... okay from US Department of Homeland Security These are the statistics that were used we have 2000- let's go 2011 by country of nationality for Russia 633 in 2011 That's not gay! That's all.

28:38 Then we have 2012, Russia 728. And then we have 2013 which is not mentioned in this credible report from Associated Press 534 but they say fiscal year 2014 so I'm pretty sure of the taking all of the 534 number and adding whatever they have which is not published from 2014 and then saying oh there's 969 in total Which is total, it's not just LGBTQQIAAP. It is Total Asylum Seekers Now where does this report really come from? There's a guy who works at Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty called James Kerchick and we remember James Kerchick from this famous RT piece where he got in everybody's...this is from 2013

29:33 You got on everybody's face on RT about the Russian gay legislation, gay propaganda legislation which of course on this show we also debunked as being completely horseshit. Here is a look back at James Kirchick the guy who is now putting out this report for Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty. Yeah James and let me ask you the same position establishing question? Yeah, well Harvey Fierstein is a very famous American playwright and actor. He said that... And you'll recall that Harvey Firestein is the one who actually started the whole Russia wants to kill gays meme he's the one that began that months after the legislation came out Being silenced in the face of evil something that we can't do and so being here on a Kremlin funded propaganda network I'm gonna wear my gay pride suspenders and I'm gonna speak out

30:26 against the horrific anti-gay legislation that Vladimir Putin has signed into law, that was passed unanimously by the Russian Duma. That criminalizes homosexual propaganda and effectively makes it illegal to talk about homosexuality in public. We've seen a state of violent attacks on gay people in Russia... What about Bradley Manning first? interested in talking about Bradley Manning. I'm interested in talking about the horrific environment of homophobia and Russia right now, and to let the Russian gay people know that they have friends and allies and solidarity from people all over the world, and that we're not going to be silent in the face of this horrific repression that is perpetrated by your paymasters, by Vladimir Putin. That's what I'm here to talk about."

31:09 You want to hear more or are you done? No, just listen a little bit more. It gets better! It's funny because the way she is handling him...you can hear in her voice that she is rolling her eyes. Oh yeah big time and they're in Moscow I think two women. And I don't know how as a journalist how you can go to sleep at night seeing what happens to journalists in Russia who are routinely harassed tortured and some cases killed by the Russian government. How you can call yourself a journalist, and how you can go to sleep at night I find that abominable! You should be ashamed of yourself. Everyone who works for this network should be ashamed of yourself. You should cover what's happening in Russia. You should cover the horrific abuse... The horrific abuse? We're waiting for the verdicts. Now you have 24 hours a day

31:56 about the United States and to ignore what's happening in Russia. You have 24 hours a day to do that, I'm gonna take my two minutes and tell people the truth." Alright thank you very much for that. Alright yeah but i've had enough. What a self...what a...yeah Selfie grand diamond douchebag And this was after Snowden was of course uh... Yes. And here is a guy who works for the American propaganda Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty Um..you know we have a saying for that Kettle? This is The Pot calling Now, who is Mr. James Kirchick besides the man working at Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty and yelling about propaganda? Well he happens to... Ironically He happens to let me get his official title here

32:47 He is a, I believe he's a fellow. Yes with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies not to step all over that foreign policy initiative. Well he's also with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies Who cares? He's with the Foreign Policy Initiative which is what Robert Kagan and Bill Kristol. Oh the Kagan boys! The Kagan Boys! Foundation for Defense of Democracy is a Kagan operation It's all Kagan operations and they have this white paper now I'm getting really deep from The Institute of Modern Russia, the menace of unreality how the Kremlin weaponizes information culture and money. And huh? It's like that's what they should be... That's what we do! it's funny because this report actually and this is where you got it all marked up for you actually says exactly this how we do but very very small and they show all of the stuff that Russia is doing if they have to talk about weaponizing

33:45 information, weaponizing money. And let me just read a little bit for you. Go ahead! It's just annoying because we do it so much better than the Russians you'd think a genuine honest report would say look here is the Russians that try to do such a good job We did such a great job doing extreme especially with our own public now that we can propagandize them into believing anything Look how great we are I mean its always I mean, i don't know if it's even a good idea to give the Russians any credit at all. Don't you think that is a mistake? Well this whole document is giving the Russians credit and has some recommendations on what we should do which I would like to share with you

34:27 And that flows into the European Council on Foreign Relations white paper, Regime Change in Russia which may be worth discussing for a moment. All published! Since at least 2008 Kremlin military and intelligence thinkers have been talking about information not in the familiar terms of persuasion public diplomacy or even propaganda but in weaponized terms as a tool to confuse blackmail demoralize subvert and paralyze This is so, I love how they've done this. In the ongoing catastrophe in Syria of the Edward Snowden affair weakened the myth that Russia desired true partnership or alliance with the West then Putin's annexation of Crimea and his invasion of Eastern Ukraine destroyed it." You get the idea? What?! You get the idea! After we... yeah, yeah, I get the idea. It's a little slanted Let's look at something they call The Kremlin Toolkit

35:19 Ooh, right that way. What we're doing is just deconstructing ourselves! Yeah the Kremlin toolkit and assuming that they're doing the same thing only poorly The Kremlin exploits the idea of freedom of information to inject the disinformation into society That's... Hello, the effect is not to persuade or earn credibility but to sow confusion via conspiracy theories and proliferate falsehoods. Wow That's what's going on. We're that's why our show is popular the Kremlin is increasing in its information weaponizing podcasting This show is I hereby declare this podcast? weaponized There's increasing use of social media to spread disinformation and trolls to attack publications and personalities it's they literally took

36:18 Hillary Clinton's techno experts said it is the Kremlin toolkit. Yeah, that is what this sounds like! Isn't this great? This is a find of the month Unlike in the Cold War when Soviets largely supported leftist groups A fluid approach to ideology now allows the Kremlin to simultaneously back far-left and far right movements Greens anti globalists and financial elites The aim is to exacerbate divides and create an echo chamber of Kremlin support Wow. Let me skip a couple here, um... The Kremlin uses the open- What this says I'm gonna stop you again, I'll be stopping you That's okay You're like the recording gun, I have to stop it It's good, it's good, stop me What this says, the way that is worded, it says the following Anyone who disagrees with this report to Commie Pinko and is being duped by the Russians That would include two of us reading the report We've totally been duped

37:21 The weaponization of information, culture and money is a vital part of the Kremlin's hybrid or non-linear war which combines the above elements with covert and small scale military operations. I like this non linear war. And with that they're referring to the conflict in Ukraine saw a non-linear war in action which I think means they didn't really do it Non-linear war funny isn't it? That's great. It doesn't mean anything, but it means everything The Kremlin successfully erodes the integrity of investigative and political journalism producing a lack of faith in traditional media Well, I think the traditional media is doing a fine job by themselves Russians that have made the media suck Totally, I don't think so

38:11 Offshore zones and opaque shell companies help sustain Kremlin corruption and aid its influence. Yeah, unlike anywhere else Douches okay recommendations the macro would you like some recommendations for the weapon recommendations at this point? This is recommendations for the weaponization of information We start Transparency International for disinformation. Here is the recommendation the creation of an NGO non-governmental organization that we would create an internationally recognized ratings system for disinformation and provide analytical tools With which to define forms of communication, so it will have a rating The No Agenda podcast is rated five on the disinformation scale Wow

39:06 There should be a disinformation charter for media and bloggers. This is good, these are big think tanks. Who wrote this report? Who's the authors you have to name them I shall but just don't want to scroll up because I'm going to lose my place Top-down censorship should be avoided but rival media! Top down censorship is what they just described It shouldn't be avoided...just avoid that But rival media, from Al Jazeera to BBC, Fox and beyond need to get together to create a charter of acceptable and unacceptable behavior. Wow! Vigorous debate and disagreement. They're just an abnegation of all journalistic principles Yeah but we'll have a couple drinks

39:53 Oh yeah, what is that? Vigorous debate and disagreement is of course to be encouraged but media organizations that practice conscious deception should be excluded from the community. There goes the seed sales guy! A similar code can be accepted by bloggers and other online influencers. I think we may be online influencers. Probably... Counter disinformation editors This is so good. What is a counter disinformation editor? I'm glad you asked! Many newspapers now employ public editors or ombudsmen who question their outlet's reporting or op-ed selections and addresses matters of public controversy that these might entail. This is true. Counter propaganda editors would pick apart what might be called all the news unfit to print How about native advertising in this list

40:44 And we could do that. We are counter propaganda editors, and this by the way... We're going to use that as a new... Counter propaganda editors. Propaganda editors. That's what we do. We are currently the number one counter propaganda editor in the country. I'm gonna skip a couple here. Public information campaigns stopping all disinformation at all times is impossible Public information campaigns are needed to show how disinformation works and you know I got an idea You get some guy to draw cartoons on a YouTube video With the voice of arrows and stuff when somebody talks over it fucking annoying music in the background Here's how it is. How this information works? You get the part little bit RT Kremlin Putin bit

41:35 Public information campaigns are needed to show how disinformation works and shift the public's behavior towards being more critical of messages that are being buzzed at them. Targeted online work audiences exposed to systemic and intensive disinformation campaigns such as the Russian-speaking communities in the Baltic states need to be worked with through targeted online campaigns that include The equivalent of person-to-person online social work. Whatever the hell that means It's like, you know Like a social worker comes up to the door Hey! And then asks you how your children are doing We need to work on ya

42:19 Yeah, that's the UK. The weaponization of money! Here are some recommendations from this fine think tank... Let's see... Libel Fund? That's a bad sign right there! Wait for it... Financial and institutional support needs to be made available so that deep research can be carried out in the sensitive area where politics security and corruption meet I think that's MSNBC This needs to be backed by a fund for journalists who face potential libel litigation for the offense of doing their jobs. Ooh, loom! A non-profit organization based in Western capitals modeled on Lawyers Without Borders but dedicated exclusively to defending journalists is long overdue Maybe we should determine... let's just do it and determine what journalists are first okay? Is Sarah Lacy she's a journalist? Is Adam Curry not a journalist

43:19 Target offshore network of stringers. I would say you're both journalists! That's right, a network of stringers in offshore jurisdictions is needed to carry out deep research into the financial holdings of Russian oligarchs and officials. Oops don't trip on any American oligarchs while you're at it... And here's my favorite crowd-source investigations mm-hmm It is in the interest of NGOs to enlist experienced bloggers citizen journalists or adept social media users to collaborate on specific events or news stories that adhere to the same standards of empirical rigor used by traditional journalists. A handful of analysts armed with YouTube, Google Maps, Instagram... ...or foreign company registration websites can't generate headlines! That's what the CIA does so they are advocating

44:11 as something that is already... They want journalists to become, see now in the olden days, the phony journalist that would go out and do this stuff trying to get their regime changed would get paid good money by the CIA. Now they want them to work for free! For free! Bloggers rap! This is the new economy. Hey and while you're at it over, while you are combating disinformation, do it in your car as an Uber driver For the weaponization of culture and ideas, there's a few recommendations. Re-establishing transparency and integrity in the expert community. Let's see... A charter identifying clear lines between funders and research? That's not that interesting. They want an alternative to Val Dye

45:00 You recall Volodya is where Vladimir Putin spoke very clearly about how he felt America, the United States was behaving. We played some of the translation there right out and so they need... That was never covered in American media we should mention no but this disinformation these disinformation recommendations are not just for the United States they're also for the Baltic states etc So the Valdai alternative, a broad gathering should be convened to bring together think tanks experts and policy makers to focus on addressing fears around the erosion of traditional religion and national sovereignty. Then mainstreaming Russia's neighbors such as Ukraine Georgia Estonia in the debate about Russian policy and engaging with swing states such as The Bricks

45:48 And they should see other countries being courted by the Kremlin to join its anti-Western international with an E at the end. Overall, the struggle against disinformation strategic corruption and the need to reinvigorate the global case for liberal democracy are not merely Russia's specific issues Today's Kremlin might perhaps be best viewed as an avant garde of the malevolent globalization This is this whole report And this is completely marked up. This is well worth downloading, only 44 pages but there's so much in here and it truly shows how this is being slowly but surely propagated by foreign policy initiative, FBI which is the Kagan's...and by the way our friend here Kerchick shows up in this report hold on

46:51 I had him highlighted. And here it was, Kurchik here we go... Meanwhile the Kremlin has been attempting to make inroads into Britain's political establishment. Elite officials are hired as members of the boards of Russian companies. In 2002, the 2002 federal election gave German-American relations Oh, have German-American relations been so rocky? This is from American journalist and Germany specialist James Kirchick. So not only a gay specialist but a Germany specialist! Bring up German gays and he's there with all the other ones

47:35 And here's his little piece. Yeah, we have to... yeah we are definitely dissociating ourselves from the Germans. While RT helps feed the American left religious conservatives are seduced by Putin's anti-LGBT stance and libertarians like Rand Paul buy the idea of a common enemy, the US government. So there is another... Rand Paul is a communist! Well, of course Then there's this piece, Ukraine the advent of nonlinear war. I'm going to send you this John because you'll never go to the show notes page. I'll send it in email. Oh yeah here is another one. This is about Ukraine now. After the downing of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 RT spread conspiracy theories regarding the cause ranging from the flight being shot down by Ukrainian forces aiming at Putin's personal plane to Ukrainian development of Buk-Sams in the area.

48:32 Fine. But if you just release the black box and the flight recorder... Yeah, where's the black box? The black box has been in custody for how long now a year we could probably quit No one has said anything about the black box yet they write this kind of crap This is ridiculous These people should be ashamed of themselves and then they keep running this propaganda on us. They should just do their own thing without screwing up the American public to such an extreme that everybody's confused in days like they say, all because Putin having Snowden I'm still back on that. Yes, Putin having Snowden but this really is

49:12 Oh, they'd love to get rid of Putin. So here's the... Still cozy with Germany for one thing! The European Council on Foreign Relations regime change in Russia just a few highlights this also a document highlighted in the show notes. Putin's third presidency is now being forced to rely more upon coercion than co-option A shift in style so fundamental that it's possible talk of Russia undergoing regime change Despite the increasingly fertile ground for both political and economic dissatisfaction, Russia's opposition has so far failed to capitalize on it for several reasons. So now they're going into the mechanics of how you create a so-called color revolution Then you recall there was a little bit going on A year or two ago What was the color? They didn't know...they didn't even get to the color! They couldn't even get to the choosing of the color And what happened then is Putin

50:07 basically, I said basically kicked out all the NGOs because he knows that's where it's coming from. And all of these groups have money from the National Endowment for Democracy and USAID Oh, yes. True. Yeah he knows what's going on there. He said it outlined it exactly and that should be the speech that Americans should listen to so they know that these guys aren't being fooled by this nonsense but the American public is. So the first reason it does not work yet is these boneheads as it says in this report popular discontent has not been in sync with the electoral cycle

50:43 So they kicked it off at the wrong time. Yeah, they screwed it up and if you really follow this closely Putin is actually quite popular with the public. Hell yeah! This is why... And now they're hunkering down because we've decided that the latest trick-up our sleeves which will benefit nobody has to really talk about it because the American public loves this, is they're gonna sink the price of oil the way Ronald Reagan did to kind of bring Russia to its knees because they can't do a lot of things. I have a couple of reports on that. Russia needs at least $100 a barrel oil... That's a myth. Oh, that's not true? No. They do to explore the Arctic region. They need like 120 or something up there but generally speaking

51:29 This is all the most disinformation out there is about what it costs to produce a barrel of oil and where you break even. And I remember, number of years ago while we were doing the show and I think we had a clip where one of the Saudis said that we can make money at $10-20. I mean this stuff just comes out makes money they'd like more money than that Of course The Russian thing is probably I mean, it took us...we had to drop it down to 20 or something. I think during Reagan's administration to get the Russians to fold. I think they're at 40 or 60 easy but here are some information that may or may not be good on Konstantin, this guy Konstantin Semenov on RT was discussing this with one of the hosts. Nat Malkus And who is this guy? Who is Konstantin Semenov? Ed Miliband He has a oil consultant and he's some

52:16 muckety-muck in Russia that knows a lot about the oil business and he's on this is the RT that's from the network in Moscow. Simple if Europe doesn't want to see Russian gas on its market so what can we do? We try to knock on the closed door and it's very difficult for us. South Stream is more important for Europeans not for Russia because you know Without Russian gas, the situation in Europe will be extremely difficult. You were speaking about energy security so we are trying to you know, increase the energy security of Europe. And how does China feature in all of this? Russia's flourishing relationship with China and gas being delivered there via pipelines We see the very fast acceleration of our negotiation with China You know we signed already so-called Eastern route for 38 BCM of annual supply to China but now

53:14 I think that next spring it's possible to sign the Altai contract and so-called Western route, and instead of 30 BCM it can be 100 BCM. So that is why it's a serious amount and you know for Gazprom also the question of choice what is priority? To build Altai or to build the power of Siberia to continue to press on Europe, not to press even but to explain to Europe the necessity of this pipeline. And what about the risk for Europe then? Because he's saying look you're taking on a risk yourselves – what kind of risks are we talking about? The idea is very simple if Europe doesn't want to see real energy security because South Stream is direct supply of Russian gas to Europe without any trading countries. If Europe still wants

54:05 have all this headache with Ukraine because you know we still don't know what will be the situation this winter with Ukraine. Yes, we signed this agreement in Brussels but it's not working. Ukraine doesn't want to pay and the situation is still unpredictable if Europe still wants to see this very stupid situation what can we do with this? Of course we can eliminate this project but we hope that that Europe will be more clever because we don't want to go away from European market, we try to be one of the biggest supplier to European gas market. So that is why it's a question of... We can say the question to Europe. Europe is clever or Europe is not so clever? Yeah this really this South Stream thing is very interesting and I know we've discussed it several times but just to summarize The European Union does not want these Serbia

55:05 and Hungary, and maybe even Moldova. I'm not sure they don't want them to facilitate the South Stream pipeline without really being a European project of them being in control because they want to create this energy union and have common, you know, um...have centralized purchasing of resources which of course not every country wants. You know so this is all taking away the sovereignty of Europe and they're really slowing down the uh...the progression of

55:46 The South Stream Pipeline, which by the way has total oil and BP and everybody's in that. Again I keep thinking that maybe they're all just in on this. The losers is clearly going to be us the citizens that I know for sure. Well it's gonna be the citizens of Europe more than anybody else with this particular situation with Russia I mean, we're not going to have any there's gonna be zero effects. I believe in the American public by doing this action against Russia except for the Snowden thing but the Europeans are gonna take it up the butt if they can't get this Russian gas which is inexpensive by comparison Well not all Europeans Germany will be just fine because Germany's fine cuz they go right cuz they got that North pipe that goes right there It's basically essentially its said

56:30 Yeah, you did. Right from Russia right into Germany here you go and which is a noise us I think this is part of it...I think this is the grand rebelization scheme? I think we'd like to see The Europeans get totally screwed hosed for whatever reason well Let's think logically in cycles It's about time except instead of having you know the typical Germany attacks France Maybe just bleed him to death You know what I mean? Yeah, no gas. No money. Your euro we're going to kill that. Your central bank is clueless. There's nothing left to do. How about that?" I think it's a possibility. And also, I think it may be a possibility that Russia might be involved with some of the other actors —the true globalists—

57:24 I don't know about these Kagan guys, you know they're...they really want to replace him. No good whatever they're up to. I'll read two more paragraphs There's little common ground for a positive strategy and a negative strategy based simply on the shared opposition to Putin But the question is revolution or evolution? Which will be the best course? I like that Well we managed to pull off a revolution in Maidan with our meddling, going in with giving out cookies. Having the CIA guy roaming around which to me was the most audacious thing we've ever done and I made the equation... And we must remember Victoria Newland married into the Kagan family she's the one that not only named the next government named him who was gonna be in who is gonna be out

58:24 and made the infamous comment, which you have the clip of. Yeah do you want the long one or short one? The long one it's so entertaining. I would like to know the fact that she would say that. Yeah, even in you know, of course the Russians are the ones who obviously leak this they're listening and like we do and they all laughed about The great statecraft that was deployed. Oh, yeah, they crack They could send it out to the public And so okay We're all listening to this woman this woman who's still a guy's job is

59:04 Saying fuck the EU that I was supposed to be a trading partner isn't supposed to be somebody we're working with she She means this from the bottom of her heart. Yeah, no she said it with anger This is how these people operate yeah and nobody has been this isn't this is I? Guess and I'm sorry worked in this situation when she didn't even say she was never he says she was sorry and And this is okay? This is okay, our own government is pulling this stuff off and our representative is saying things like this to our trading partner. Well we at war with these people?! Yes! We're at war with these people absolutely! Absolutely are so let's rebelize them. Alright to wind this up we have Lavrov if you just do a search for regime change Russia

59:56 I'll give you the most recent from Lavrov. He is the foreign minister from Russia. This report... Oh, I smacked it! Saturday 22nd of November Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov accused the West on Saturday of trying to use sanctions imposed on Moscow in the Ukraine crisis to seek regime change in Russia Russian West's sanction against target Putin not policy Russia insists That's right. That's right. I agree The guy won't play ball. He won't give us that... Snowden! I can't come up with his name. Give us freaking Snowden. Give us Snowden and everything's good In the morning says Rabba Sandlin who will be mentioned later in a donation segment, this accompanies his donation We have two yellow press newspapers in Finland I'm just exaggerating a little bit when I tell you that Mr Putin has been on every front page for at least a month now

1:00:52 Now the man on the street will of course not realize that Putin is there, not because of something he has actually done but that his face is used only to sell more newspapers. So you remember we heard from Don that we are probably going to have some big summit in Helsinki with the Russians and then really when I think about what Don said to me my uncle Don He said that he regrets how he portrayed his feelings about Putin in the book and also in an op-ed that he wrote. And I'm thinking, he knows that they're going to try and kick him out. That's why he is very interested because Don, you know...He's a guy who just wants the right thing to happen! And I would argue it's better to have the guy at least we know a little bit

1:01:44 Versus some other jabroni. Can you imagine a new guy coming in? That would be horrible Well, it'd have to be one of our guys Yeah well if we had a true regime change but I just don't see it happening I know I mean all these let's look at our track record here Egypt Libya regime change, Libya good example the places now it's been unless we wanted to just go That's fine. Yeah I mean and what is the other one Tunisia kind of went back for that was? I don't think I'm not sure we had anything to do with that thing that just triggered our doing other stuff As Syria is a mess and now we got the ISIS thing Iraq this is joke

1:02:24 Yeah, we suck at this. Why are we trying to do this? Unless of course we just want to rubbleize I mean although i can't hardly believe that well what's the point? Things will rubbleize themselves Well obviously part of what's happening and I have you know some of the conversations ahead in the lowlands Everybody realizes that the increased spending on military, as all of the NATO countries have now been given the message. We heard that from President Obama. He gave them a message, hey you are not putting your 2% GDP into NATO coordinated militarization and then that of course benefits us! That's for our weapon industry which is what we do

1:03:05 That's what we do. So you might as well have some bad guy who is clearly invading everything and everybody, and is a scary guy. He's gonna get ya! Yeah so anyway I thought it was kind of fun to combine the long nurtured meme of Vladimir Putin hates gays right into the Kagan camp And and into radio free Europe Radio Liberty it truly is no, it's well done You know they're not getting the do not do that. I you know It's like it's like to get there so let me say now well done its wealth thought out yes Yeah, but I think execution Is a minor? I mean this is not you got to do better. No you've gotta behead a gay guy

1:04:07 Chop his penis off something that will be head in because that meme is in the air Yeah, well we should do that and her head is gone Yeah. Well, our heads are still on at this point in time I'd like to thank you for your courage and your deconstruction and say In the morning to you John C Dvorak! And in the morning do you Adam Curry Also in the morning all boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all that dames and knights out there And in the morning everybody in the chat room NoahJennerStream.com good To have you all onboard Thank You to Baron Nussbaum

1:04:46 Who brought us the artwork for episode 673? I think we were low. Did we go to Evergreen's first- no, no! We didn't. No, we didn't. I'm sorry. No it was there before 673 and then i used Nick the Rat for the newsletter Right this was Seasons Beatings which is a great one. Seasons Beatings... Oh by the way, I'm seeing people now send us based upon your newsletter You've had two photos now of a cruelty to animals Yeah, part one and part two. Did you see our producer who sent us? A picture of her cat no being cruel to the cat dressed up like if like a reindeer Oh that's just cruel yeah, but she said it here's my Cruelty to animals yeah Animals do not like to be humiliated No I don't think so either. I think they'd like to be loved

1:05:36 No, they want to be no I like to be fed. Hello That's pretty much it just feed me This program which I believe was mentioned on NPRs morning edition Saturday Which have not heard yet But it was a podcasting story about advertising so I presume they said I taught I was talked to the writer of that piece and long discussions Oh Were you in there were you in the show? All right, I doubted oh But whatever the case was, I did have influence on the piece which I think is more important than actually getting a quote in. Well... He was... Yeah, I'll tell you this story. This is not the only one going on there's a bunch of this going on ever since that one article ran at one time and it's one of the big papers about... About Serial, the podcast?

1:06:23 Yeah, I was in Washington Post. This is the way the news business works. Oh! Must be a trending topic and so everybody's doing these stories and so NPR did one of The New York Times' ex-editors...I spent like hours with him talking about it. Why do you do that? Do you know they're only gonna use like three words? It's only because there are lot of reasons why I do it. One, I get to know the guy Two, I get some influence on his thinking. Not a lot but enough to push things a little bit. I don't care if...I've done enough of these things and know that if I get the one or two words then that's fine. I don't care. I'm not into that. I'm into finding out what's going on so I can bring it to this show and say here is what this guy is up too and here is what you're gonna expect from other news sources because I am now part of the system. Part of that system." Ah yes! You are a go-to pundit

1:07:16 I'm a go-to guy. Anyway, any who... Go ahead you can say it. I was going to say it as no, you always ring the horn or something This guy was a, he's the NPR guy. He's not always on NPR. He does a lot of different things and his whole thing was to start off by trying to figure out how much money people are making and then he was really focused on Leo. Oh interesting! And him another guy there's another third party that's doing this too I can't remember his name but he was also focused on Leo and they're trying if they're trying to figure out if Leo is

1:07:53 You know, where Leo fits in the scheme of things. And in terms of understanding podcasting because I think a lot of these guys realize that thing we talked about that guys are doing their operation... What's the name again? PRX Radiotopia. It's not really podcasting. Well they're doing podcasts but it is really intended to make programming for NPR, for public radio Yeah, it just said it's a repurpose as a podcast. It was not a true podcast and one of the points I was trying to do when i was talking to all these people was to indicate what podcasting really is and we know based on what it is which is what we do

1:08:31 which is not produced for any other reason except for this market and to use the distribution network of the internet. And to maximize that rather than doing all multi-purpose versions with a lot of overhead and again, that stupid sound they have in all the rest of it but that's what orientation was Leo, it was really toward Leo and so I've been on the show enough that i could talk to him without... but this is also interesting. The guy who's also trying to figure out if he can make money and leave the stupid papers working for him. There was a little of that with everybody. Everybody looks at this and they say, you know it's one of these things when you're a writer and you say, oh this is kind of an interesting business let me talk to the CEOs of the top companies and see how much I can learn about this business maybe i can get a job! I'm a rule follower right? What do you do are you a rule follower okay

1:09:22 And so the guys are looking at this trying to see if there's money to be made, but since they're journalists at a certain level they're also looking for dirt. Of course! So they're trying to get dirt from me I think that would probably either find out you could make a ton of dough and switch or totally discredit that crap because it's competition. I think they're on the fence. Actually, I didn't think of that but that's one of the things absolutely let's get some dirt on this and show that is bogus and there is no future... That element was in play absolutely you're right yeah course and just as a side note don't know where I saw it

1:10:07 Must have been on crap it was yesterday so by the corner of my eye I started watching then it's Ira Glass with and you know this little company old hack from NPR and in there so wrong about what they think Let me just say Pod, pod show. Okay? Pod show this just it doesn't work where you're trying to do is get venture capital money been around that back up and you jumped over the audience right there I want to back you up okay

1:10:46 You're trying to discredit what they think is an operational model that was already disproven, but you didn't bring that into your explanation. You have to back up and you said Podshow and then assumed everyone knew about Podshow how it worked nobody knows about Podshow. Ben I prefer to erase that maybe can get that forgotten by Google we had this company started in 2005 and it was exactly this model which Semicolon with a network of shows with central the services including the selling of advertising space for your show and Distribution of money that comes in. The only thing they're doing different right now Excuse me

1:11:32 They say they did a Kickstarter to get these other shows some money. Now, they got 10 shows that raised $600,000 dollars but how long is it really going to last if you have more than one person producing on each show? I know the numbers, I've been down this route then then you have to actually sell some advertising when you are a show that has big press Because of whatever decision Washington Post made and everyone else, by the way I think the show is good. I don't have no time to listen to it but i hear a lot of people who really like it and its kind of you know... It's like old school. It's NPR style show if you like NPR then you're gonna love it. Exactly so it has cachet

1:12:13 They don't necessarily have a true way to really report numbers. Well, they haven't just as Official or bogative or you know correct as Nielsen or the Armatrons But there's no officially sanctioned outfit that does that yet That never came to fruition so therefore you can't really sell ads that effectively but regardless The overhead you create with the network in the middle is too big to sustain a network of shows. And quite honestly... Not if you're going to be like an old-fashioned style network! It gets worse because, so there's a couple people starting this up and here are what we're doing. Take it from me okay? I've got the bullet wounds

1:13:02 You're really not going to enjoy meeting with venture capitalists who have given you money. They have these board meetings, they don't understand radio, they don't understand anything of what you're talking about. They just want to know how many registered users and how many ads have you sold? Eyeball it and your gonna have no numbers for them its gonna be very difficult. Now what gets the horrible part is your network is going to become unhappy. You will have an entire team of people just to suck your producers off every day and tell them, yeah it's coming. Yeah don't worry about it. Yeah you're next on deck. Oh well this ad was only appropriate for these types of shows not for those shows so don't get all mad.

1:13:48 It is not worth it and in today's networked world, it is completely unnecessary. It's crazy! You do not need that... The only reason people will do this because they're afraid they can't do it themselves They're afraid of managing the money They're afraid of doing their own PR Oh let somebody else do it for me You used to be happy if you got on NBC or CBS, or the ABC radio network because they had the only connection to the audience. That is why you had to do everything they said that's why it made sense there were true gatekeepers of all things that the content and the money. And now that is gone! You do not need this at all and surprise most people will never make a living in doing this

1:14:39 Because it's hard. It's radio arts and sciences, arts and sciences. Yeah? All right I'm done Well, you didn't quite finish the story. No because the point is it's not going to work. It's just not going... Yes I think at that point you did. And these guys are enjoying being in the limelight and everything. Oh yeah they're big shots! They're network executives! There's another one. These people so people who are producers gonna join up? You are now about to join a group where the guys who hated the network executives are now the network executives and they're going to do it different this time oh yeah

1:15:18 By getting back with all their frustration will be vented on you. Yeah, that's exactly what happens is like one of those things where the job defines your personality you can't get around it so if you want to create a network and become a network executive because you can do it right You become a network executive! You might as well work for NBC at the end of the day you're going to be that guy. Your suit and uh... well anyway i hope we get by not having a network we have a stream of things that we put on this guy that we don't manage any of it internet we don't actually died pretty much nothing and this show is produced and done by us with nobody telling us what to do except the audience in the end if you know mass way not one guy complaining although he listened every individual complaint that's why we try not to smack our lips but we also demand

1:16:14 And I think we demand with cause that people support this show and we make arguments left and right why they should support the show. If you want to do podcasting, you can't bring yourself to do that because a lot of people can't bring themselves... Oh God! I can't bring myself to asking for help." I would like to point out ladies and gentlemen this is the mark of a true professional who now segues into our donation segment well done Well played, sir. That's a professional right there. So if you can't bring yourself to do that then yeah okay join some network and fail because that's what's going to happen at the end of the day because the model for making money and producing this has changed substantially. We should write a book about this! It works with us because we're two-man operation with some... Well, we have lots of ancillary help

1:17:00 We have lots of ancillary help. We have volunteers, we have artists, we have contacts...we have a network of intelligence gatherers all around the world and we put it together and make a presentation for this for the producers who make the show work by helping us with... It's a collage! It's a collage of collaboration. It's a collaboration collage, that's right I like that you know see cool. I just buy like a lot you know I like collages large of collaborations better yeah Okay, so let's thank a few people including our top Executive producer for today show sir Frank as in shtat. You know why I haven't heard from him in a long No, he hasn't been on for a while Five six seven eight nine which is one of my favorite donations because there's a bunch of numbers in a row And it's easy for you to recognize numbers that are sequential yes Yeah

1:17:52 He's in Victoria, Australia. We got one of our great Aussie producers Hello John and Adam has been a while but the finally time to step up and become a baron So he's henceforth I'd like to be known as the Baron of Stonington Stonington, I think it is I think Stonington. Double N, Stonington Yeah it would be Stonington but Stoningtons just sounds so much better To mark this occasion i'd like a Reverend Manning Iowa Oops Ottawa and lots of Boom Shakalaka A couple different clips I guess Love the show and the amazing analysis from you And the remarkable team of contributing producers That's right Regards Frank Adjenstat Baron of

1:18:36 Don't I like you like Stonington on a stone. He wants it he says stunning to me, right? It's time stunting Chloe Let me go to you first what's the latest tonight in Iowa? You've got karma What a dude. Hey, quick stop here because you always forget this crap and you are the peerage officer we had a conflict I told you Orange County was already taken Yeah And please set this straight Yeah were back to what it was he's got South Orange County You gotta name these people man I don't have it in front of me and then the other Costa Mesa guy has got Costa Mesa

1:19:24 It just reverts. It wasn't like the biggest deal ever, I will have the exact names and the peerages on the next one No you won't Yes i will Number next on the agenda is, no agenda. Jason Kiefer in Tallahassee Florida $400 he sends a check-in and a small envelope checks inside says four hundred dollars on the check No note this just a silent Jason we call him and I want to thank him for that contribution Hendrick Schmidt in Utrecht 34567

1:20:01 You two do not just have a show. This is a media education, and in that sense...which we just did a long lecture on, and I think that was somewhat educated. And there will be a test. In that sense you've been the most entertaining teachers! Please grant me some job karma. My current work has given me an annoying skin disease Oh, no as with most of the modern ailments a more relaxing state will do wonders Adam please consider running the Satan jingle from The House Screamer more often than once I don't think that's the house screamer. I like that. No if that's the right one though hold on That doesn't so he's our house screamer. I like that all the best from old checked

1:20:43 Hendrick Schmidt PR associate. Let me just see... 74 I don't think we actually have, let me see what's this? We need a job karma Yeah i know SATAN! Isn't that you?! No but that's also not our guy no it's a different guy Jobs jobs jobs and jobs lets vote for jobs You've got karma Satan Works for me. Yeah, it's kind of works Todd Moss $300 from Tempe Arizona I have a note he sent it in He said this check-in Adam and John having just watched an excellent documentary on free speech And then listening to show 670 I want to again contribute you the best podcast in the universe including that Comet someone just landed on

1:21:35 I'm not sure what connection it is. Oh, the universe and the comet? Okay. Although i don't always agree with you now let's stop right here! Here he comes We do not ask, require or request or even hope that anybody would agree with everything we say. We're not here to be agreed with. We're here to present things that may or may not be... The two of us don't agree on half the stuff. We also are like counterpoint all the time No. And sometimes when we do agree, it's just that we're agreeing but doesn't mean you have to agree with anything I really would like people to restrain from making this comment That's all i have to say Yeah perhaps... Just not even... yeah Yeah just drop it

1:22:22 We assume, we make an ass out of you and me. We assume that you don't agree with everything we say so it's just... I feel the show is very important in the otherwise failing world of journalism. We believe the same thing. Please keep up the great work and again the drinks are on me if you catch me on one of the flights." This is Todd Moss, the flight attendant on... Southwest right, right So if he sees us and I was hoping to see him on the flight up to and from Seattle The likelihood of you seeing him is zero pretty much zero. Yeah. Yeah It's not like they don't have a lot of flights. They don't even you know hang out with each other yeah Well, you might you know you never know I did get recognized in the elevator at the Seattle Airport Oh really yes

1:23:10 But, but and Mimi recognized as who? As yourself. Yeah from the No Agenda podcast or from the Windows Communications book Eric who has a bumper sticker on his truck he came down to do some work which is wake up in the morning it says yeah I love those stickers I wish you had more of them. Got a bunch of horn honks and in the morning people yelling Really? Yeah. I will say, but i'm surprised at the type of people and situations where people throw out an in the morning to me it's something that takes me off guard yeah usually because it's usually behind your back they happen to us at the Costco up in Squim Washington we're doing somebody says in the morning and then he turned around couldn't see him he disappeared his shot around the corner or something i'm not sure maybe was freaked out

1:24:11 Onward! Dave LaDouche in Malibu, California. 23456 is a trending way to donate. As usual excellent deconstruction on the last show Love The Men Lying For Sex can be construed as rape bit. It's not a bit unfortunately no it was a law Yes, the no agenda offer still stands for the film Aftermath playing in New York. You get a discount if you say in the morning at the box office three bucks off. Thank you for your comedy and your courage, courageous attempts to expose the truth. And I think this wasn't on the last spreadsheet? I don't know why it would be on there. No no he is donating again that I would like to say to read. Punch up his movie! Chris Penn's strong and final performance of a simple man on the edge of catastrophe in Anthony Michael Halls dead-on portrayal of the epitome of an American alpha male is fantastic

1:25:10 The two men bring home a movie that's both exhilarating and terrifying. A metaphor for corporate America run amok." I know what you want. I'm not going to choose the Calypso clip. Oh, really? Okay. I would like to get Hit Him With The Constitution from Reverend Manning. Wow okay that is whoop him Let me see if I can do this for you, Mon. You can find it? Yeah! No, I can't... Okay well anything else you want? Well yeah if you could find Teresa's daughter saying that she is 11 years old and even I could spot a douchebag. I always thought that was funny. It would be under Brooke I believe. I don't remember that. Brooke with an E? Yeah, I think so. Girl

1:26:13 I might have to disappoint you. Here's a crazy thought, try and give me this earlier. Yeah! Uh, Brooke... No, I can't. Okay don't worry about it just give me the Manning is good. Get out there whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping! Prostitution! You've got karma. Got that one. Well how about the Sharpton one where he goes and he just flubs and flubs of much? Much! You mean resist we much? Yeah, resist we much Okay... Alright... Fine We got tha- That may be my absolute favorite It's definitely- Now this shit again! Sorry I don't mean to

1:26:58 Okay, but there is something wrong with Apple's shit. But resist we much! We must and we will much about that be committed At least a million a year And by the way I want to refute something you said on the Dvorak Horowitz podcast What did i say? There are no astronomical numbers for budget of this Al Sharpton show No I don't think he's making a million dollars at pay either. I really don't. Yeah, I think is no We looked at his numbers and you and I both did you have this that you say for every? What are you saying for every million? Viewers it's a million dollars or something you have some metric which is just yeah, I don't believe in that message Yes the metric so when everyone uses Except for the people who worked on TV all their life apparently okay now know yeah, okay fine. I think your metrics off

1:27:56 Now let me just quickly say what's wrong with Apple when you use the spotlight search, which I... Don't use it! Well there's it's very handy when you're looking through 10,000 clips to find Brooke and and it works very well. It finds relevant stuff but then when you want to go because Apple has come up with this idea oh let's do tool tips and pop-ups for everything So then the computer... Can't you turn that off? No. Well, wait a minute spotlight preferences. Oh thank you let me see no! You cannot turn it off. That makes no sense And then and then you can't drag it out of that list that appears. You can only open it with application

1:28:42 Well, sometimes you can but usually it opens up quick time. It's stupid. Quick time dude I don't know just disable it when Steve died that was the end of the company. It'll take us a decade to watch things sink when they finally begin. I've said that Apple looks like me like a short sale when their first store closes as long as they're expanding I don't see a problem although I have to say I do have an Apple We can talk and when we get to tech news I'll talk about it. At this rate, we'll never get there! Well if i don't finish his list... Dave the douche has got his... Did you do Jason Kiefer? I'm sorry Yes Okay he comes in- I talked about how he just sent us check with 400 bucks In an envelope there was nothing no note He sent him email You did?! Yeah And we both got it Don't worry The whole thing we don't have to read on the air but he does become a knight today

1:29:38 Oh. And that's correct because it's gray... oh no, that should be blue! You know if you're going to mail it seems to me you would put your note there. You would put a note in the mail with the check or on the back of the check even, that'd be kind of amusing. Okay well it's fine doesn't matter as long as we got information Infor- yeah were good We're all good were good to go Ok Dave Dadoosh is there Kerry Randomski Randomski in Beatty Nevada maybe Beatty? 23456 Beatty? Greetings from Beatty Nevada I think its Beatty not Beeatty, It's Beatty We've been listening for six months

1:30:15 We hit one another in the mouth and now we need a de-douching for George and Kerry. You need double de-douching." And then he makes, or she says Kerry makes a comment about how good I am on another podcast which you won't mention on this podcast. You've been de-douched! There ya go Georgia Kerry. And finally David Kaye in Tempe Arizona We lost Arizona in a football game. 200 bucks, I started my death penalty trial this week just in time for the holidays." He's apparently a juror. He may be an attorney. Could be either one and we'll need a big dose of please don't kill... Yep no he is attorney because he once said please do not kill my client Karma so he's an attorney

1:31:07 Thank you for everything you two do and keep up the great work. Well, let's give him some karma for that poor guy he has to defend. You've got karma! I think here is an appropriate way to defend this...I think you should say yes my client would like to die but it has to be a guillotine on live TV I wonder when one of these murder trials you can go, yes my client pleads guilty with an explanation. Yeah then he would like to be killed publicly with a guillotine that's how there was big parties back in the day oh yeah everyone would go to square parties in the old west yeah Oh big time but yeah all fantastic

1:31:53 And we, the two of us both believe this would be a hot TV show reality TV. Wow! Would it be? It would be fantastic. Yeah. Drama... No. They'd go to somebody like Burnett's got already too much money and then uh yeah no he would just screw it I mean we would do it right but I don't see why we shouldn't do it I mean we see all kinds of killing on television Why do have to be ashamed of this It makes no sense. We do we kill people in Texas, man We kill people and we're killing it on this show I would like to remind you that would give another show coming up on Thursday They go to Dvorak org slash na and continue your support We appreciate it too know end and these are the executive producer and associate executive producer credits That's why they are earlier in the program But these are the people that how'd they get the credit? You know This is like the titles that you see on every single episode

1:32:42 Hollywood show and these credits are accepted wherever They're valid wherever they're accepted. Of course, unlike the douchebags in Hollywood we will actually vouch for you if you need that Devorak dot org slash N A Alright just like our two producers there We need you to go out there propagate our formula Our formula is this...we go out, we hit people in the mouth Shut up! I have a little side bit here i want to just discuss for a second. Okay

1:33:29 Play the clip, I don't have the beginning of this but it's a woman, I think she is Elvira King and nephew of Martin Luther King. And they're talking about churches and it was on Dana one of those shows on The Blaze all of sudden triggered a thought Can I just want to say it's not very healthy for you to be watching The Blaze Yeah no its not, I dont like watching it Especially when it's a prayer meeting. It's really totally annoying Ferguson with Elvira yeah, I got said 99% of the arrests were people who some of them weren't even from the state of Missouri and they definitely weren't even from Ferguson

1:34:12 The next day, there was the Christian fraternity that came out. And they did not send a press release. Nobody knew they were out. People just happened to be out and about taking photos of these young men cleaning up the neighborhood and young families came out. It's like after there is horrific wildfire... We're at the dinner table and we discuss, and Eric keeps up with a lot of this stuff. Eric DeShille, and he's mentioned the same thing that we've mentioned before which is the guy was shot in his car trying to get his registration shot in the head by a cop. The 12-year old kid with his BB gun shot... None of this gets any attention except Ferguson. And so I'm thinking now that maybe it's Ferguson not anything else that is nexus for some reason? You know that the Keystone pipeline runs right under there? That's like... You are kidding me!

1:35:04 I was thinking about that. Looking at this, the offshoot of the Keystone pipeline runs right through St Louis and Knicks Ferguson and i'm thinking when looking at all the rioting and all the stuff that goes on there why is it just one block that was burned to the ground? How widespread was this rioting? It seemed to be focused in one part of the area and they burn everything to the ground I'm thinking either a real estate scam, right? We got to get some right away. We've got L Sharpton coming in and they bring all these punks in and now they distract us. They decide that okay now we've got that out of the way. We have the Ferguson thing taken care off. Of course, Keystone Pipeline has something to do with it because its too much of coincidence so we end up with this clip

1:35:49 which is the stupidest thing and it's a complete distraction, almost as though professionally done because all the signs in all the areas especially in New York City were all done by some one company. Hands up don't shop? Are you kidding me? The report comes just days after the grand jury decision not to indict a Ferguson, Missouri police officer in the shooting death of an unarmed black teen Michael Brown. The decision is still sparking nationwide protests many targeted at Black Friday shoppers. Hands up! Don't shop! In New York, protesters gathered at the iconic Herald Square Macy's. Some protesters were arrested accused of blocking the entrance to the store in Seattle Protesters blocked shoppers that balls in the downtown area some stores were forced to close early one person was arrested Five others were arrested at another protests in Seattle

1:36:43 And this disruption in Oakland involved trains. Protesters blocked both entrances to the local transit system and the trains themselves Service was halted for hours, 14 people were arrested there. And that wasn't professionally organized was it? Pfft! I'm reading up on the pipeline going through Ferguson Good f- wow And how did Eric come to this knowledge? He didn't come to it, I did. It was when he was complaining about the same thing that JC was complaining about and I kept thinking what about all these others... you know the number of people he... Eric had one there's so many people shot in Chicago since the Ferguson shooting it's ridiculous all blacks by the police and by blacks

1:37:27 and the police, and nobody cares about any of this. So it's not about the shooting. It's about Ferguson! We finally say we'll do what's special about Ferguson. And so then I see there is one pipe that one of the pieces of Keystone Pipeline runs right through...it's kind of like in the St Louis area to Pierce Although, when you try to research the exact place where this pipeline runs even though it's in or near Ferguson. There are all kinds of obfuscations if you look up pipeline route You'll find freedom information acts that have been refused there is a whole series of documents that won't tell you where this thing runs because there is real estate involved here There is money to be made by knowing where this thing is going and coming from

1:38:13 Wow. It's the only explanation that's why Ferguson is a big deal and now they're trying to distract us with hands up don't shop and Sharpton's part of this he's got some something going on I'd love to get some documents on what these guys own you've got me going down the rabbit hole here man but i'll do it later holy crap good one thank you So, it's about Ferguson wow but they didn't kill the kid just to get this started I presume No, I don't think so. I saw it-I think it's opportunism Right You could if you wanted to Because there are other kids being killed constantly This was opportunism and maybe they did kill him to get this started with all the phony- Oh he did cops stood over him and shot at him in the back Hey! Get off my beat I'm The Crackpot

1:39:07 Yeah, well. Second half of the show. But it could happen anyway... I came back to this! The officers noticed that the subject was wearing some type of vest at that point you know being the fact that we were dealing with possible improvised explosive devices they backed away from from the suspect And at this point we formed a perimeter and we are working through that process right now. Our bomb squad is on scene, and they're trying... Can you guess where this happened? No. Trying to ascertain the nature of the potential explosive devices if any actions will be needed to render them safe At this point we believe that the suspect is deceased but given the This is Austin, downtown Austin Oh right yeah! Austin's got some action

1:39:53 Yes, a Mexican guy got all crazy about immigration or something. And he went to downtown at two in the morning with some kind of vest that was probably you know, a vest! You can hear the cop going, oh crap man there was a sweater and it killed him so yeah you won't hear about that and guess what? White cops probably killed the Mexican guy. Yeah nothing. Yeah they could turn down doing something if you wanted Here, oh I got something here on the tumbler. Let's see this is John you really made me crazy with that Okay, stop me from researching Ferguson. Yeah, let's get onto something else whenever you get a pipeline maybe drive me nuts Don't have a jingle for that yeah we do hey Hegel a little bit of research into Hegel Secretary of Defense at the United States who got kicked out and

1:40:51 I think the reason why i started looking at it is because you said you thought it was Valerie Jarrett that kicked him out. No, Susan Rice! I think you said Jarrett... You meant Susan Rice yeah but you said Jarrett so it's easy to confuse her. Well, I believe that she is probably really the power there that would give the go-ahead Possibly. I don't think Susan Rice is anything more than the twerp that she is, you know just a little me-me-me kind of person. So this is very interesting because Hagel...you know the Secretary of Defense that is the main head honcho who was really coordinating the creation sales export of our military industrial complex so he was kicked out and the reason why is this memo that he sent to Susan Rice

1:41:42 This memo. Okay, did you know about the memo? I don't I don't think maybe I do I don't recall it and so we don't have it Of course FOIA requests have gone out But apparently he wrote a blunt assessment of US policy in the region Middle East Oh probably was critical of her Yes expressing concern about overall Syria strategy His memo conveyed to miss Rice that us needs to quote have a sharper view of what to do about the Assad regime Combined with continued resistance to ISIL on the ground, indicators are these strikes have slowed. So his memo was pretty much... I don't think it's a good idea that you want to go and be... How do you want to do this? Is really what he is saying. This guy is operational! He never should have been in the job in the first place. He's operational! The guy has been wounded in war three times so he knows war but he doesn't know Washington Now what is interesting is who's going to fill that spot

1:42:40 I find this to be, if I'm curious that Hagel was let go to pursue outside interests. To pursue interest outside the country without a replacement. Mr. Curry is leaving the company to pursue outside interests." Well, I guess maybe he doesn't have a family you can spend more time with which is usually what they do right? And so there was no direct follow-up appointee But we had, we did have an appointee and this is Michelle Flournoy. Flournoy. Yeah, we played this clip about how she immediately didn't want the job because she didn't want to get caught in the crosshairs Now she is The founder CEO of another group We got to take a look at John you will want to go to this website the Center for A New American Security

1:43:39 because, and that is CharlieNovemberAlphaSierra.org And you will want to go to the people section Now on deck for possible Secretary of Defense is General John R Allen who has been named by the President as the ISIS czar He's the guy that was having an affair. Yeah, it was the affair with a chick. It was busted by Hastings or something... Well it was all connected to Petraeus. Right. The Petraeus scandal and... Get Petraeus out! And he had that mistress down in Florida now look at this You know why I think they finally had to get rid of Petraeus? Because no matter what they did They couldn't get him through the metal scanner without it going off Okay

1:44:35 Let's look at who this is the group to watch they call themselves quote an independent non-look at the board of directors Directors well if you go to the people page, you got everything Board of Directors is fine a Board of Directors so there's Alan oh yeah armadillo's armitage. Yeah, we've got There's Michelle floor now as Daniel thick from endgame Inc. Oh There's Flora Noyce, she is the CEO. We got Danzig from the Rand Corporation and look Lieberman now I'm going to call it Lieberman what the hell is he doing there? He's the war guy this is the war team! Oh yeah he is the John McCain representative on this group Let me tell you put in the book Lieberman for Secretary of Defense Put that in the book baby Remember and remember...I am from the future

1:45:27 This is a good call. I'll give you like, 10 points...I'll give you a ding for that one! So Lieberman's- That's great call He's the perfect guy Yeah And whoever is going to be second- Sec- That's what he was told SecDef as we say Whoever's gonna be SecDef Let's do Washington speak Has to be someone who's preapproved by McCain otherwise they will never get through confirmation And exact mccary can't leave her man. They're like I gave kudos on that one buddies Yeah, they were told but but that and a crazy woman from Kelly a hole or whatever name is a oat you know a hole yeah

1:46:09 Let's look at the board of advisors. We got the guy from Ford... David Schwimmer from Goldman Sachs, Peter Schwarz from Salesforce. Wow! Look at the board of advisors. Ford Motor Company, Harvard University, Duke University Center for Strategic and International Studies, of course, another Rand Corporation. Harvard? Boeing, Princeton. Morgan Chase. Yeah everybody is there Princeton, Kennedy School. Of course the Board of Advisors is bull crap they never have there that is a drinking club. Well but it's important to have Boeing on board and everything so that you know... Yeah you got to put their names up there and now in the emeritus people that used to be there Madeline Albright number one William J Perry from Stanford uh-huh yeah So this is the war

1:47:13 Let me read their little thing here again. Century for a New American Security, which is pretty much Project for A New American Century and it's just reverse an independent nonpartisan nonprofit organization that develops strong pragmatic and principled national security and defense policies So they developed the policies and they developed a policy that Hegel had to go because he was not on board with the entire program of taking over Syria, rubble-izing in Middle East, screwing Putin, you know ramping up NATO. Whatever it was, he just did not do it right and when I saw Lieberman on this, I'm like that's the guy! And the only other

1:47:55 I mean, I don't think it's gonna be Allen. It won't be that guy. No no too much is too hard to do. Now i think your thing with McCain because Lieberman's McCain's guy and he'll yeah McCain will want him unless Lieberman doesn't want to do it but Lieberman is an egomaniac He'd love to do it! Are you kidding me? Yeah no it's um hey it'll be good for the show lots of Crazy quotes from that moron. By the way, I got a link in the show notes to the McCain Twitter feed with the actual photo on his own Twitter feed of Baghdadi so i don't think that would be a doctored photo? Huh yeah... I'll look at that Yeah it's in the show notes. I'm looking at the publications of this operation they have to be dynamite Oh yeah In April they did opportunities for American influence in the changing Middle East

1:48:52 with Leon Panetta fellow, Dr. Daphna Hockman Rand examines US influence in the Middle East and considers whether US efforts have moved the decision-making of MENA leaders in a direction more favorable to US interests." Yeah this is the right group. These guys are... It's a beautiful outfit! This is what was interesting if you go back to the list of publications again one that is more the newest they have A policy for de-escalating how this ends. This is November 6th, the blueprint for de-escalation in Syria. How the hell to get out of there? Deputy Director of Studies and Leon Panetta Fellow Dr. Dafina H Rand again Research Associate Nicholas Harris argued for the importance of focusing on a political framework for de-escalating the civil conflict in Syria

1:49:49 That would be worth a read. It offers that offers a number of principles and practical steps they will build on US train and assist efforts with the moderate Syrian opposition fighters, OK? We are doing this in effort to integrate a political strategy. Are we already doing this well probably just I don't know it's probably just confirms a few things but the one is even more interesting is the latest when autonomous weapon systems at Are they at the United Nations? And here's a strategy for defeating the Islamic State. Okay, we got to read... Thank you. There is malware on this page! Oh really? According to the Avast web shield it has blocked the harmful webpage which is on the I wouldn't be surprised if just the site Check it check it what is it look at the thing what does it say It says that infection is there goes just went off it did block whatever was but some something called mal and some piece of code that they didn't like

1:50:51 It's probably just a tracker. Let me see if I can reset it and see what it does. I have my tracker off, well I can do it cnass or you can do on this other machine where I have the... Oh didn't come up. I like ghostory. Yeah well ghostry is interesting because shows you everything that's hooked up to it but doesn't necessarily show your malware. Hmm let me say what ghostry find no facebook google add this nothing else mm-hmm oh wow no malware found okay Okay, let's uh let's keep our eye on these douchebags. Yeah douchebag alert big douche bags Oh I have something that I like I clipped for you just to irk you really mm-hmm first okay

1:51:46 This is just a random clip, it's got nothing to do with anything except I think it may have some of the... there's a... you're gonna hear a woman who's in her 50s making the sound. This is a race finishing clip with the woman making a sound as she's in her fifties For most of the people in this Clearwater Foot Race The victory isn't so much in the winning As it is in the finishing Yeah, now she is a definite candidate to be voted off the island when the time comes It's just like why do you make that sound? Yeah, it's it's women. It's women have been programmed into doing this only recently I was a kid that son didn't exist no no No, they had other things all right This is a report from but think was NPR and I don't think they realize the irony of

1:52:43 of their report. This is Millennials in Medicine. Now, maybe we should just reiterate briefly what a millennial is which is kind of an age group but was it born after 89 I think? No... It was uh... I think it's 85 I think is the breaking point And the Millennials are self-entitled, you know there's a lot of problems. Not all...no not by a long shot not all but in general as a group like we talk about the baby boomers or Gen X'ers. Yeah and they're also hipsters. So this is a report was rather long report looking at

1:53:30 And I think it's very troubling. A, how they were following their medical education and this is UT by the way my backyard here University of Texas and what their view is of practicing medicine? And I think we can say you and I can agree that today's health care providers as they're known...and that is what doctors are called by the insurance companies healthcare providers They're pretty much going to just follow the rules and hand out the medication. And what I didn't clip in this report is that pretty much no millennials want to be a specialist, they want to be general doctors which really falls under this category of medical healthcare providers. That's interesting Yes Here is how our subject...I think her name is something Ho funny enough How she

1:54:30 studying to become a doctor. Meet the next generation of doctors, The University of Texas Southwestern class of 2014 is celebrating graduation. Class Vice President Amy Ho has shed her scrubs for heels and a black dress she says with modern technology med school really wasn't that hard if you want to do the entire thing by video stream which I decided to do you can so i'd wake up at Of course, the millennials have grown up with the internet.

1:55:25 And they have new means and ways to research their medical cases. Millennial doctors want offices that are high-tech, many have never worked with paper charts and they don't read dusty medical journals they look at them online We absolutely consult Wikipedia not the library To find the most up-to-date medical research They consult the wikipedia? For the most up-to-date medical research Is that the most frightening? No, that comes right after I'm from the government. I'm here to help We absolutely consult Wikipedia to get the most up-to-date information on medical research Okay This is just a joke that you're playing no onion You got an onion though yeah, you got suckered nope nope it was a 10 minute piece now This is a final piece which is I think fun NPR you say yes Yeah

1:56:27 This is very troubling, this. So part of the millennial generation if you look at the generalization of the millennials is they all want to share the burden work together it's a sharing economy. Economy! It's a sharing economy let us share patience we can hand it off and share patience which is really... If you've ever been sick Or, you know...Mickey with his thyroid. You know that's a good example when you have a whole bunch of people involved everyone has an opinion and they don't communicate and it's not necessarily a good thing in fact I'll give my analogy

1:57:08 If I'm flying a helicopter, but I want to know exactly whose hands have been on it and it better not be more than one pair of hands with an assistant pair of hands. You get six guys that working on a helicopter? I'm not gonna fly it." Sharing patients working less the hope is that physicians won't burn out as fast But some Baby Boomer doctors say practicing medicine with this kind of sharing economy approach could be bad for patients' health. If you are having too many handoffs of care between one physician and another physician, and another physician which you can easily have with shift-based work it's almost like the game that you played when you were a kid that you whisper a sentence going around in circles to see how screwed up it gets by the end of the game

1:57:51 It's like that, only way more dangerous. Yeah! I told you the old story of the nurses on the graveyard shift to up the oxygen on everybody so nobody croaks during their shift... Don't die on me now! And then they turn it down when the next morning shift comes in. This is just a little more upsetting to me because it truly shows that this is where it's headed. Exactly medicine is It's going to be another, you know...like an Uber driver. You'll end up being taken over by the Chinese who will come over here in droves because these are idiots! You've played a clip of Noodle Boy as a doctor! Yeah, he's that noodle girl! Noodle Girl? Whose name is Ho! Oh I watch Wikipedia videos for six hours and work out and have lunch then we go get plastered. Nice

1:58:52 Nice work if you can get it. No, that's where it's headed. That's a good one. It's almost clip of the day but no little too depressing I got one here that just came to my eyes driving around because I drove from Port Angeles to Seattle Seatac Airport You have a rental car? Yeah He had an FJ, a crazy-looking Toyota. Anyway... And this came to mind and I have the clip here because I think this clip triggered the thought because I'm going to ask you a question afterwards. It's not asking Adam just a question. Play the hostages and ransoms clip. This is a clip that is about the known fact that the American government will not pay

1:59:39 pay money to any terrorist kidnapping and if you wanted to pay your own money they'll make you a felon and throw you in jail. The United States has set a heart-rending but absolutely necessary example Are you playing a Carrie clip? This is not Carrie, it's just Carrie by refusing to pay ransom for captured Americans. And all of the evidence shows that where and if a country has paid a ransom, there are many more people who are taken hostage." According to the UN Security Council's Counterterrorism Committee an estimated $120 million in ransom was paid to terrorist groups between 2004-2012 including between 35 and 45 million dollars to ISIL

2:00:30 Republican Representative Duncan Hunter has accused the Pentagon's Joint Special Operations Command of leading a botched effort to pay a ransom to gain the freedom of Army Sergeant Bo Bergdahl, who was held by the Akane Network, a group designated as terrorist organization by the U.S.. Hunter, in a letter to outgoing Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel quoted sources as saying I would tell you that we said this before there was no Ransom offered, there was no ransom paid. But Kirby acknowledged there is a gray area in US policy The Pentagon or CIA will pay sources for information about the whereabouts and condition of US captives On occasion to obtain information sometimes in the field There are such exchanges

2:01:29 Pallets of money, I tell you. Pallets of money! Millions on wooden pallets. That's a fact In Britain the government is seeking to stop British insurance companies from reimbursing families who paid ransoms to free hostages held by terrorists While the White House says that review its hostage policy will not change its ban on ransoms Families of hostages want other changes I am so delighted that it's being revisited. All i would ask is that families be invited to the discussion. Diane Foley, mother of James Foley says while her son was being held she faced a bewildering bureaucracy where no one seemed to be accountable There appeared to be no one who could share any information with us or advocate

2:02:13 for Jim's situation. So it was a very lonely experience." The White House says the review will focus on how the U.S. government manages itself in hostage situations and how the many agents involved can communicate with the families of the victims, many of whom say they feel abandoned by their government and left with agonizingly few options. Well yeah because you know this is all set up and it's all fake then he's... Abandoned by their government I think we're supposed to be well we do what we can for Americans okay here's the question so now that you have all the background? I've got all the background Bill Gates is kidnapped by a terrorist group mm-hmm The world's richest man yes

2:02:56 What happens? Fuck him! Sorry, sorry. I'm sorry. It's the Tourette's, it can't help it. Yeah well... Alright question answered. Let's be honest. That's exactly what they're saying that's what the answer would be Yeah, but bullcrap. This is this is a lies yeah and that State Department spokeshole That guy's tear or know the Defense Department guy he's terrible oh the Kirby yeah Kirby He's terrible that guy yeah, it's no good okay? That's it okay point just making a point couple of things going on today We have let me see do I have it here we Have over in first we have Moldova referendum today voting to see

2:03:44 if they want to be... If they wanna align themselves with the EU or with Russia. So that could be interesting. Moldova is kind of a crappy, I don't think there's much going on but- It's a hellhole! I don't know if we have any listeners from Moldova? I doubt it. Be nice if we did. I don't think they have radios. Get some books on internet. Let's see what we got here. Switzerland is voting today. Landlocked between Romania and the, okay it's because of Ukraine being that part of it. It only has 3.5 million. Switzerland votes today about whether they should beef up their gold and have 20% maybe I have a clip of this.

2:04:37 The Save Our Swiss Gold initiative would require the Swiss National Bank to a. Hold at least 20% of its assets in gold within five years b. Be banned from selling any of its gold reserves and c take back all swiss gold that's being held overseas Supporters of the bill say it will give security and independence in uncertain times Another popular slogan is to protect the people's wealth Opponents of the bill, which include the government say the country wouldn't be able to exercise monetary policy freely and the cost of buying 1500 tons of gold over the next five years would be immense. It's very noticeable that all countries now are saying let's get our gold back and make sure we have the gold but where is the gold? Everybody wants their gold back I'm looking at this Moldova thing

2:05:35 So, at the eve of the vote one pro-Russian party was banned from the poll. The move criticized...so we got our fingers in this deal! Of course we do! Yeah But look at the strategic location in Moldova Yes right there where you want us or where you wanna be Well, that's interesting. They got these new nesting dolls you know those babushka things? Those dolls. Yeah, those doll and doll and doll. Doll and doll and doll yeah And they go they get the one with the outside person is Obama Because if it was done right a little bitty twerp he wanted to vary You know here you go Obama Jarrett Michelle Twerp

2:06:13 That would be great. Yeah, no it'd have to be Obama then let's see what it would be that's not waste a lot of time but Biden would be number two No, no, no Jared is number two police Jared and Jared then Michelle come on Let's do the true powers Okay, Jared then Michelle and then Michelle's mom The mother-in-law who lives in the White House? And Then then Biden How about it? Biden then after that. No, Biden has no power man! Then you go to Rice... You go to Power... No, no, you gotta have the Secretary of something or other. Kerry! Okay Kerry. But he won't fit with a head. It's pretty hard to fit half a head in there. Just the head not the whole body because we can't fit in just his head and then what do you get after that way one two three four five if you do a six nester you could probably

2:07:09 You could do Susan Rice's The Little... Yeah, the little bitty one has to be Susan Rice. That's the only thing that makes sense. Just to be funny. Oh Power says Samantha Power. Samantha Power. All right now can I move on? Yeah i'm sorry. To the Pope! I'm just giving this idea out there public domain so you can make these dolls and I'll buy one Now as you know being from the future I correctly predicted who the pope would be Pope Francis. Yes, something you'd like to mention? Well it was one of my finer moments It was great! So I follow the pope on Twitter but also just follow what he's doing and he was in Europe What is he doing?! Well... He said some interesting things so he addressed the European Parliament now he was in Strasbourg which is kind of the chic, we don't go to Brussels that's for commoners

2:07:58 He alluded to a general... I have no audio of course, he speaks in uh does he speak Italian or Latin? What do they speak? No nobody speaks Latin. He alluded to a general impression of quote aging and weariness in Europe and that a new spirit should be built where humans are treated not as programmable objects In many quarters we encounter a general impression of weirdness and aging over Europe which is now a grandmother, no longer fertile and vibrant. Which means barren! As a result the great ideas which once inspired Europe seem to have lost their attraction only to be replaced by the bureaucratic technicalities of its institutions." This is the Pope saying this? Yeah he's pointing his finger at

2:08:47 This is the European Union that's causing this. And I will tell you, when you look to the... Here's some analysis on this. I like the barren grandmother. I figured out what does he mean with that and checked out population growth? None of these countries in Europe are growing by natural birth. No, no they're growing by immigration. Immigration exactly! Exactly and Italy apparently is the worst case they're just dying that nobody wants to have babies They just all want to get plastered. And you have this eugenics movement, eugenicist movement... What's the point? It seems redundant! Well this is why it's so interesting that people have- that this is so important of them Someone else said to me the other day well maybe we just have less humans Why don't we start killing them now be faster? A fastest way through war and pestilence and famine Start em out shoot em Just go for it Exactly why wait? Knock your way back

2:09:48 There was an interesting, just to kind of cross over into eugenics. So of course we still I'm still tracking the Brittany suicide self-self what do they call it? Right? Suicide. Self-information...there's a word for it, I've forgotten it. Suicide! It wasn't suicide. What was it? There was the girl who took the meds to kill herself earlier so that the insurance company didn't have to deal with her which is part of what... Oh yeah right euthanasia. Euthanasia thank you that's the word euthanasia

2:10:23 Yeah, that way it saves the insurance company's money and saves hospitals a bed. So who do you think... so if you look at what states allow this then this is remember this is what they were pushing through and it was the big health care insurer Kaiser. Kaiser, who was propagating this because they're the ones that want this law because it will save them money but this is just the fallacy of... Nobody talks about that in these terms except our show! The sickness of this, the fucking sickness of these companies who want to do this and you know don't give a crap six months early great good for us good deal so MSNBC is all on board we've got to find someone to blame

2:11:08 Who do we blame for people not wanting this obvious, smart law? Which I'd like to see- The Republicans. No. It's interesting to me looking at the map of the states that approve this only five approve it in the level Oregon does. It's an interesting cluster in the Northwest where this notion has taken hold and it seems to me when you stare at that map California really with the momentum coming out of Brittany's so visible choice that there really should be some movement on this in California. You have a very strong Catholic base here in California it's a very high Latino population and they seem to go with Catholic religion

2:12:00 And as I'm sure... They seem to go? Mm-hmm. Oh, these crazy Latinos they seem to go Catholic! I don't know why because they don't like it. I don't know killing themselves. ...population and they seem to go with Catholic religion and As i'm sure you know the Vatican has Has disapproved of what Britney did and has called that reprehensible which is That is a crime in my opinion. Because until you've experienced and been in a room with the loved one that is enduring just unbearable pain, it's the only humane thing to do is to let them choose if that's what they want—to go to sleep peacefully

2:12:53 There you go. They will not stop California, you're on deck it's your turn California Well now with luckily the Hispanic population which is Catholic by some weird coincidence who knew why? I phone schmoy phone The way i see it the only good phones a landline and the phone should be made out of bakelite Hey hey hey It's time for Tech News everybody! Here with tech news, which is everything except phone news. Joanne C DeVore. Well that's not always true Adam Don't tell me you've got phone? Is there a new phone do we have something about phones yes tech news play it right here because Apple has hiked prices for its iPhones its iPads and

2:13:38 and its computers on its Russian online store in response to the falling ruble. Average prices for Apple products have now gone up, on average some 25%. In response Samsung has decided to lower the prices of it's flagship smartphones. Yeah! Right from Russia, tech news. The thing I wanted just touch on briefly, well actually two things I just, because it's not really tech news but this first look media. Pierre Drive My Car, Omni Hour. Yeah did you read that piece? I sent it to you! Oh right yeah oh yeah you did yeah It was a great piece it was written by this guy who writes for the Baffler one of these offbeat magazines and uh let me see...it was just an indictment of the whole operation

2:14:33 Yeah, who wrote it here? I have it here. It's from... Omidar is like a Silicon Valley geek he just expects people to have a lot of meetings Can you imagine if he made people like Matt Taibbi and whenever they had their stand-up meetings All hands meetings? Yeah, it's all a corn bowl of crap. Silicon Valley speak garbage! I don't want to gloat but we totally called this. From day one yeah then where is that douche the professor

2:15:10 He's probably still... Oh, uh, Rosen. Yeah, J. Rosen. I don't know if he was a douche but he was an advisor. A total douche! Are you kidding me? He's all, he's an advisor where is he now? I'm sure he's still taking the check so pathetic and apparently Greenwald and DriveMyCar have never even met in person That's funny. I didn't notice that was in there I can just see, but guys like Matt Taibbi aren't going to put up with this kind of bureaucracy. And then they want to turn them into managers or something. The whole thing was a joke, but you know he still has time to fix this so he can hire me and go talk to him." What? Yeah, he could hire me and we could turn this around in a minute. No... Whoa! Whatever happened to hiring the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group since when did you go solo? In terms of print

2:16:10 Okay, I'll make it part of the well. I'll tell you what they're not print into the okay. I didn't know that printing paper Well is this a are they typesetting? Yeah all right I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'll offer it out and write a proposal up. I'm sorry. I feel a little shit No, you know what fine no go ahead. No yeah It's okay. It's okay. You go ahead just joking anywhere. I'm gonna talk to that guy Brian The Gay Crusader is on deck I knew that was the real answer to this situation. I knew that was going to happen, and that's what you were thinking all along. We do have some people who thank for show

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2:18:05 Celebration celebration get on the Google car and drive around there. You'll see Wow Well, let's see they have a theater small little theater you know it's always gonna be in business because Disney owns it Let me see what kind of real estate is available for you John mm-hmm okay? We have oh this is weird It's weird shares Inc. What is this celebration? Rental group, I think it's all leased or something Yeah, but I don't think you can actually buy anything No seems like everyone this is yeah just the well that's something for me then yeah be perfect You'd be good you would love Celebration a then they have exotic car festival Oktoberfest

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2:26:55 I have a little thing that's been bothering me just like the Ferguson thing. It's just eating at me and then, I got these clips from...I guess there are couple of clips here that explained it all. There is lot of B-roll out there which is you know this stuff they use as stock footage when they talk about pollution in China And I look at a lot of this B-roll, and I was an air pollution inspector. And I know what pollution looks like. And I'm familiar with the London death fog of 1950 something or other...55, I think when a bunch people died. There's a certain look to it. And I've always thought the look was a little off. I didn't like... Adam Chapnick Well, I just want to reestablish. You are trained, educated, and have practiced the scientific role of air quality inspection? Dr. Justin Marchegiani Yes!

2:27:39 Thank you. I just wanted to... And so, i've always bothered by this and then all of a sudden realization takes place that this b-roll, I'm sure is all coming from this phenomenon play the clip sandstorm opener Beijing was struck by its worst sandstorm in four years The whole city was enveloped in dust reducing visibility to less than a kilometer The sandstorm originated in Inner Mongolia and swept southward as far as southeast China, beyond the Yangtze River. 21 provinces and regions were seriously affected. Even Hong Kong in the Far South recorded an air pollution index well above normal. Over the past 50 years, the regular sandstorms have harmed people's health, in particular causing numerous cases of respiratory disease

2:28:31 They've also given rise to the widespread disruption of transport. In the battle against sandstorms, the Beijing municipal government has planted trees, carpeted the ground with lawns and built protection belts Yet none of these efforts has completely prevented the occurrence of abnormal weather phenomena. Abnormal weather phenomenon? Like sandstorms? Now let's play, this is one where one of the worst sandstorms that ever happened which I think most of the B-roll comes from is the March 20th 2010 clip which actually has some amount of sand that was dropped on the city

2:29:09 And I realized that when I finally saw these clips and saw the same B-roll, I've been seeing as air pollution. That just because of whatever reason you know the industrialization all the rest. I realized that I had been in a sandstorm. I was in Israel once and there was a genuine massive sandstorm and it looks just like this. It creates kind of a brown fog that's very strange thing to be in a sandstorm. But play this clip and then we can end this whole thing and realize that the American public has never been told any of this bullcrap. News of urban disease, population explosion, traffic jams, power shortages...

2:29:49 and environmental pollution. Beijing has suffered the most with frequent occurrences of calamitous weather conditions in the form of sandstorms from North Africa, Central Asia Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia The sandstorm that began on March 20th 2010 lasted for three days and dumped 300 thousand tons of sand on Beijing The air quality index plummeted And Beijing's twenty million people suffered three days unmeasurably All right, you know you realize that we couldn't actually see any of the video you were talking about oh Well I cut a lot of the noise because it actually is a long thing and they had lots of music and lots of clips But the clue you've seen this when you saw the Olympics when you saw the you have been in a sandstorm myself Oh nice in Kuwait

2:30:39 Okay, when we landed with the plane in Kuwait which helps if you're in a plane en route to Iraq before that in 2004 three four or whatever when I went there Yeah We landed and then we had to sit and wait for it must have been 45 minutes For this sandstorm to pass over the airport. It was so we were in the middle of it. It was pretty cool It wasn't a huge. It wasn't anything like this but it's sandy all right Yeah, but it's more of such a fine powder. They had to cover the engines that you yeah It's not like you know when you see a movie and they have a guy in the sandstorm It's like the wind is blowing if there's wind blowing it usually blows the sand someplace else But it's like the wind blowing and sand is ripping his skin and all the rest like sand. It's not sand It says it's extremely fine particulate which is close to the same size as smoke And so far as particles are concerned

2:31:33 And it's just everywhere and you can't see, you know more than maybe three or four five feet in front of you. So what is the point? What are you trying to tell me? The point is that we've been... well It was just something I said was eating at me because I kept seeing this b-roll Oh the terrible pollution in Beijing because of the factories! Ah, I gotcha. Factories?! What factories they're making iPhones there's no smoke coming from these places No I just think we were led down a, you know, primrose path of bullcrap as usual and they keep showing this b-roll. Everyone's got a mask on yeah you'd wear a mask if you're going to be outside in one of these sandstorms and they apparently have them all the time

2:32:12 Yeah, I've been to Beijing a number of times. I've never been in one of these sandstones but now i can imagine Anyway it's just ours little annoyance that you had to get out of the way. I'd like to go to beijing That would be nice. I'd like to go so many places. Beijing is great Let me wrap this up as we move towards our finalization of this program today two presidential proclamations I wanted to mention briefly uh-oh Well tomorrow December 1st is world AIDS day This is a well-known fact. But it's funny, I didn't clip it but I saw Chevron with an AIDS commercial for Chevron Nigeria Okay Also by presidential proclamation It seems that December belongs to only one proclamation The whole month You know we have months that have six seven eight different you know proclamations that the month belongs to Huh! December

2:33:10 is National Impaired Driving Prevention Month. Ah, holiday season drunks! All Americans deserve to live long and full lives and every child should have the chance to seize his or her future but throughout our nation too many lives are tragically cut short in traffic crashes involving drunk drugged or distracted driving well shouldn't it be all of this? This is just... oh impaired yeah you could be impaired by being distracted Right. This is finally, this is actually something that we should be working on the more people and more people are killed by traffic accidents than anything else. 40 thousand a year? Yeah it's in this country. Car accidents. In this country yeah Well I have one last clip though Oh but I was gonna do two Alright go ahead Do you want me to do the last one? Well... It's just that there's a little shorty Shorty A shorty This is the turkey I just thought this was a good clip

2:34:08 turkey calories clip. If you are feeling rather stuffed right now there's a good reason, you may have consumed get ready more than 4,000 calories today I know it's a big number research from the calorie control council suggests a traditional Thanksgiving meal is loaded with 3,000 calories and the average person will add on 1500 or more through snacking and nibbling it is all the equivalent of eating Three sticks of butter. Why? Why are you putting this poop on me? Three sticks of butter! So? I could resist a clip with that punchline

2:34:49 That's what you did for Thanksgiving. You ate three sticks of butter." Well, not me because I was all by myself by the time we were done with the show on Thursday it was and-and by the time it was done posting it and everything uploading was 11 30 when I had a shawarma at the shawarma place yeah then went to bed. Oh that's sad! Yeah no turkey no love no nothing huh? All right here we go David Pook Papa Oscar Oscar Kilo according to achievethecore.org David Pook completed his undergraduate work at Penn with honors. His studies include the field of cognitive science and art history, leading to a master's and PhD in philosophy Now as an educational consultant he worked very closely with the Council of Chief State Officers in drafting the Common Core Standards for the English Language Arts And has several projects underway with the student achievement partners on work aligned with the Common Core State Standards

2:35:48 and see on his own in partnership with consulting organizations like Achieve, the Aspen Institute and Ed First all nonprofit NGOs. He has helped evaluate and design English and history standards, curriculum and courses for numerous states districts and charter schools. With Achieve David helped design the PARCC... I don't know what that is model content frameworks provide analysis regarding their college readiness blah blah blah so we usually talk about math when it comes to Common Core because that is easy to post... Ridicule! Yeah it's easy to ridicule yeah exactly it's easy to ridicule

2:36:28 Now, David was at an event. He was on a panel... let me see where it was this... Granite State College in Manchester New Hampshire he is the chair of the history department there and they were talking about the Common Core Standards what do you believe I hope this clip is like a little bit of wild audio because it's from, you know, like kind of in the classroom where they're on the dais. You know? It's not great audio but you'll be able to hear it. What do you think his motivation was to participate and help create Common Core Standards? Oh by the way spoiler he really supports the Common Core Standards for... This is for English and for history! And I thought it was just a different way of learning

2:37:16 But that's not at all what his motive...what do you think his motivation is? Why...? Howard Baetjer To propagandize the public so they're good little workers. Joe Mancini No. Howard Baetjer That'd be my guess. Joe Mancini I was very surprised, but you have to know in advance, I'll tell you, that the common core state standards by his...in his words and they'll come after this big reveal are really lowering the standards so more people can graduate. What? Yeah, listen to the clip and you'll understand why. Every teacher that's using it basically is saying this is inspiring a closer and more engaged student body so that people who are actually using

2:38:06 And again, in terms of the local control you still have local control. So if you want higher standards and that's really if that is your genuine point then you can go ahead and do it. You can do the higher standard than the process was indeed totally transparent. I'm going to defer now to David and Bill. This is him. That was the leader of the group, then he said hey if you want to implement higher standards that's fine by us. Like what idiot would wanna do that? And by the way when your done with this clip you might as well do it! Give yourself the clip of the day because this is unbelievable. Wait until you hear what Pook is about to say... Oh man, okay let's continue. I'm just an interested teacher who helped write the standards and the reason why I helped write the standards and the reason why I am here today Is that as a white male in society I've been given a lot of privilege that I didn't earn

2:39:02 Did you hear what he said? I've been given a lot of privilege that i didn't earn. As a white male in society- White male, I've been given a lot of privilege! Tell that to the people in Appalachia Well some of the people in the audience gasp in horror Then they're told to shut up by the other- HEY! HEY!!! It's privilege! Because of the privilege- I think it is really important that all kids get equal opportunity to learn how to read. And, I think I have decided my advantages as a result of who I was and not being made choice in mind. When I walk into places like Roberto Clemente High School on the west side of Chicago... ...I think it's really important those kids learned how to read just as well as I had the opportunity to read and create an equitable outlook

2:39:47 Another last-ditch clip of the day. I hit one last time at the end of this show that's funny Well, that's disgusting It's so wrong. So because of his white privilege, I guess he lowered the standards Yeah with it this is actually very condescending and patronizing if you think about it Yeah, psycho since on my white privilege genius You can all y'all use stupid people will just lower the standard so you can actually pass and I'm doing you out a favor Bullcrap

2:40:37 Sad isn't it yeah, Jeb Bush is huge Common Core guy. Oh yeah? No Yeah of course don't mention that because he needed lower standards to do anything you know We need lower standards for another bush in the White House Do you want a wrap around that's disgusting so we just end and yeah absolutely there You can't beat that no sorry I'm sorry I didn't mean butter thing after that but I think this is better I Think this is much better than butter Better than butter. What's better than butter? Better than butter, he said! Alrighty I hopefully if I... I don't know if I'm gonna be able to pick Miss Mickey up at the airport probably won't make it She can take an uber Yeah she could yeah she can She's coming in today? Yeah, yeah, yeah, she was supposed to come in last night but

2:41:33 The plane was delayed and delayed and delayed, she wouldn't get in until 3.30 so I said screw it just stay another night in LA which made her angry You know what would be angry too if I had to spend extra you have to plan for LA and kind of like can't really put up with hanging out at least that's my experience Alright we will be back on Thursday remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA coming to you from FEMA region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I am dodging raindrops, I am John C. Dvorak We'll be back Thursday right here on No Agenda

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