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00:00 You guys are kinda entertaining, but I'm out. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Sunday, November 9th, 2014. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 668. This is no agenda. Removing my entire catalog from Spotify here in FEMA region 6 in the capital of the drone star state Austin Tejas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where Spotify is rejected I'm John C. DuBois That's right, but I am standing beside Taylor Swift

00:38 I denounce Spotify. Kind of old news. This is all part of the publicity campaign. This woman is unbelievable. She will be the richest woman in entertainment in the history of entertainment by the time she's through. She'll be worth I don't know how many billions. Especially if she keeps her music off Spotify. Well, that will make her even richer. No, you know, it was like the last little she was getting published. She was on every show one after another. It's talking about this lame out and then she finally kicks off the whole thing. She finally gets her last bit in with this thing. Yeah. Yeah. And spot. And then you never want to hear from her for six months. I want to talk about publicity in in the manner that she does it based on I worked with Adam Osborne, who was a publicity

01:28 And he had a very interesting theory, and I've always thought about this, when people say, well, you can do it for good publicity or whatever they say. He had this thesis that publicity takes the form of a wave, and the only way it's ever effective is if you get a lot of it at once. Yeah, it has to be just a big tsunami of a tsunami of PR. And that's why she was on the Today Show. She was on all the talk shows. She was here. She was singing on Good Morning America. She was everywhere. And then they just kicked it. They decided to put the icing on the cake to have this Spotify story played out as though it's news. Who cares what she does with her music?

02:12 But she's a...she either understands this or the people working for her, the publicists working for her must...they're just at the top of their game. That said, I do feel that there's a little bit of information needed for people about how these services work. Because I was very interested by this PR move. I paid very close attention to what was being said. And it is apparent to me that pretty much nobody, particularly people who write about this for a living, really know how any of this stuff works. Do you? Yeah, I know how it works. Oh.

02:59 Or do you think, or are you asking me, do I think that nobody knows what they're doing in the business and they're just, you know, doing what they're told? No, I think the thing that I'd like to just point out is that this is a scam. These Spotify in particular, but Pandora, and now we have another one coming up SoundCloud. I don't know if you read that they've just signed their first deal with a major label with two more to come who we can't name yet. Well, there's only three that you can name. But I just wanted people to understand that this is a bonanza for record companies because they are the investors in all of these companies.

03:45 Yeah, but not a lot of people know artists are the ones that get screwed Artists get well it's even better than that if like somebody pointed out millions and millions of downloads can result in like a nickel or a dime to an hour Here's the thing that's interesting with Spotify, which is which is very different from Pandora Pandora is seen as a streaming non-interactive Service, which is there's a huge distinction very important Spotify They do not pay per stream. This is what people get wrong continuously. So it's not how many times you played the song. Uh-uh. They have three different levels of using the music through their system. One is the free with ads. One is the premium, and then you have, I think, the ultimate.

04:32 And the way they've done it, so when they say, oh, we send 70% of all our revenues to the music, what do they call it? The music community. Yeah, to the labels. Obviously, but the way it's calculated is they look at their entire pot of money, but they split it out in these three groups. So the value of a one play from the advertising pool is lower than from the ultimate pool. And the way they do it is they look at their total revenue for the quarter in these three buckets and then say, okay, how many plays was that in total?

05:14 And then they divide, and then whatever that number is, 70% of that goes to the record companies in, and then they chop it down by, okay, we made a hundred million this quarter. I don't know what they, I don't think they make that much, but, and you had X number of spins for that a hundred million gross revenue. This is your piece of it. So it can differ wildly, not only how, how well they did, I wonder how many younger folk in our audience say to themselves when you, after you finish that sentence,

05:51 Huh. What's a spin? Well, it's like dialing a number on your telephone. It's the same thing. What's a dialing? Yeah, same thing. And so what's interesting to me is that the net result, because the vast number of people who use Spotify are really the free users who only, who listen with ads or the premium service. I don't think it's that many ultimate, And these guys are owned by the record companies who then have zero cost the way they used to. I mean, you have to understand, man, but when they were doing physical product, you have 25% packaging fees of something that's, that still exists on iTunes. They still charge 25% packaging fee for, for nothing, for something that's not even packaged anymore. Um, so what really goes to the artist at the end is very low, but the thing that is,

06:44 is crazy is the songwriters, so the publishing. So if you and I write a song then we each would own 50% of the publishing. And that is that the fee you get per spin, I'll say it again, for the writer of the song on internet has been determined, you know, I think in 1995 they put together this default amount and it's so infinitesimally small that there's no way you can survive as a songwriter. Performer, yeah, you might be able to if you're really selling some product mainly through iTunes, but if you wrote the song, forget about it.

07:28 So, what I love seeing is how people feel that they have such a right to their streams and streaming music on Spotify for their $9.95 a month. But we will wind up with an impoverished art form. It is going to absolutely go away. Well, I don't know if we're going to wind up with an impoverished art form. I think, at least from my perspective, all the best music's already been written. Wow, come on. That stuff's coming out now. Oh, come on, John. Okay, well let's spin the Taylor Swift 1989 album.

08:06 That's the hot selling product right now and you're telling me that that holds a candle to say any Beatles album? By the way, Beatles not available on Spotify. Well there you have it. Because they actually, they still like making money. This is what's so interesting about it. I just love seeing people getting all righteous about, Taylor Swift is rich man, screw her, screw all these rich artists, $9.95, that's all I should pay for all my music ever in the world. So SoundCloud is the same thing. It's all about the IPO for the investors who are the record companies. This is the final big screw job.

08:52 I don't think so. I don't think it's the final. They're going to find other ways to screw the public. Oh, you know, they don't continue. But the SoundCloud, after Spotify IPOs, which is going to happen, then the next one that's lined up is SoundCloud. And there may be another one. But it's the same model over and over again. If you've got a big gun, shoot it. Yeah, I come from the music business. These guys are geniuses at what they do. That's what they do. But I come from the music business. I feel bad. I just look at this and go, oh man. But you're part of the problem. Why am I part of the problem? Because you're in that business. I'm not in that business. I had to get out of that business. In a kind of absentee way. No, no. That's like saying you're part of the problem in the technology press arena. Totally.

09:40 You're right you are I guess yeah You are part of the problem. I am you are the problem. I am the problem Why you can't take credit where credit is all right well, then let me read you from the Wall Street Journal Do you recall I did an interview with the Wall Street Journal about advertising, podcast advertising? Yes, I do recall that. This is a moment where we're having a lot of strange publicity around, circling around the drain of podcasting. And this and I think I told you that I don't didn't expect at all to be mentioned in this articles I didn't think the guy was really listening to what I was saying and and and I said why should he and also But come on cuz he called and he said I want to listen to you. Yeah, you'd rather talk to Taylor Swift No, I don't think so. And and and I will say again John I always say our show I always say John C. Dvorak, but you know what happens, right? I

10:41 Oh yeah. Well, you're the inventor of podcasting. Why would they mention anyone else? Oh, but when I talk about our show, I talk about our show, but it rarely is written that way. So we've had words about this in the past. So I just want you to know that the way they wrote it is not because I said it that way. As long as the show, to be honest about it, as long as they spell the name of the show correctly, Yes, they did. Which is a stretch. So I'll read the, um, so this is about that, that, uh, derivative podcast from the, this American life people. It's all about it. All these articles are all about NPR podcasts. I can't possibly make money. It's all about NPR podcasts.

11:20 I'll just grab a couple of little quotes, but I'm at the end with my quote. At the end of the article. So the most popular shows aren't exactly cheap. MailChimp, the email marketing company that sponsors Serial, that's that new NPR podcast, says it pays between $25 to $40 CPM. Hi. Which is the... sorry? You're paying too much. On average, pre-roll ads on YouTube cost an average $17 CPM according to data firm SQAD. Let's just explain that to our listeners for those who don't know. CPM is cost per mil. Yeah, which just means cost per thousand. Yes, cost per mil. It's French. For some reason I thought it would be

12:05 It looked like snappy advertising talk. Hey, I think CPT has a specific meaning that's different. So they had to use CPM. Oh, really? I could be wrong, but that's what I'm guessing. It should be CPT. So the concept here is for every 1000 people who downloaded the podcast, which of course doesn't mean they heard it all on and on and on, they would charge $25 to $40. And, okay, indeed 46% of Serial's website views come from mobile devices, 45% come from... Now this is a guy who writes for advertisers in the Wall Street Journal. Advertisers. I think you're now able to grow what used to be a type of content that was only available through download. Now you're able to stream it at any time without having to download it to a device, to a device, Mr. Cohen said, if God knows where he's from.

12:56 As a result, Mr. Cohen said his company's 0% growth prediction was more for the old world of podcasts as they became more akin to internet radio. That forecast had changed, blahdy blahdy blah. The concern several years ago was that people were downloading and not listening, said Mark McCreary, CEO of PodTrack. Do metrics they count downloads and they say and they're an ad seller right they sell ads to yeah you commonly will see the pod track operation when you're going to a Blog or website where there's a link to like the podcast. There'll be an intermediary if you look at the link itself It usually goes through

13:35 Yeah, it... Yeah. ...pod, track, and pack. You know, what's it's called again? A forwarding thing. I forgot what it is. The tracker. Let's just call it a... It's more than... Yeah, it's a tracker, but it's... Anyway, it's... But you see this huge URL which has got this other guy's in there. And then he says, that question goes away to the extent that the content is consumed on connected mobile devices. Everyone is trying to compensate for the fact that we don't have a real accredited or viewed as accredited Nielsen rating of podcasts, which they would love to be, but you know, they can't really prove that. Can't prove a thing. Of course, not every podcast will be a hit, though MailChimp marketing director Mark DiChristina says he had a feeling it would be a smart buy, largely because of the show's partnership with the successful This American Life program, with which MailChimp also has advertised.

14:25 I'm saying advertising, not underwriting. Advertises the word in the column there? Yes siree. Well, I got that in his head. Okay, ready for the kicker for the end is the last two paragraphs of the entire article. Sure. While the major shows might be the ones attracting significant brand dollars, podcasts can also thrive without advertising according to Adam Curry, an early podcaster and host of the No Agenda Show. Mr. Curry, known by some as the Podfather, thanks to his role in the movement's early days... What the fuck is that? Does not... Sounds like an old fart. Does not use advertisers on his show. Quote, you don't need a million people listening to create something and it be sustainable and grow over time, Mr. Curry said. I personally like that because I don't have to have any meetings and show anybody how many downloads I've had.

15:22 End of article that's what you said apparently Sounds like me I Like not having advertising because I don't have to have any meetings well something to be said for that But that's what we always say yeah meetings I can just see people going, what? What kind of a douchebag? He doesn't like me. This guy is no good. He doesn't like meetings. That's the takeaway. That was lame. I kind of like it in a lame kind of way. It is lame and it is likable. I'm not saying that it's not likable. It's just lame.

16:09 I was involved early on with podcasting. That's what has now been, I've been relegated to that. I was involved early on. I was breathing during that time. So there you go. Being involved early on and having the first quote unquote, technically quote unquote podcast. The first. Yeah. It's different. It's like saying Henry Ford was involved in car manufacturing. Well, he did not invent the car. It was Dues Dauzenberg. Let's just say they're involved. He invented the modern manufacturing. Let's say Henry Ford was involved in modern manufacturing. It'd be kind of like missing the point. Yeah. Anyway.

16:59 Well good, they're a publicity bandwagon compared to Taylor Swift. I am the regular... Almost a wave. I am the Taylor Swift of podcast promotion. That's what I am. Almost a wave. We just didn't quite turn the car on the way. And we needed the tsunami and we got a trickle. Damn it. We got a tap opening up. A leak. Yes, a leak. Indeed. Presidential proclamations, Veterans Day of course, by presidential proclamation. That'll be Monday I presume, Veterans Day, is that Monday? I don't know, is it? I think so. Let me see. There was a lot of... There's a lot of these... No, no, no, no, Seventh Day, we missed it, it was Friday. Friday? Yeah, I guess that was Veterans Day?

17:46 I didn't notice. Well, the president had a concert, of course. Oh, yeah. Well, he doesn't have to go out of his house. He it wasn't worth it. He brings the concert to him. It wasn't worth clipping. But he you know, he always likes to be on stage with all the artists and oh, yeah. So he was on stage with Willie Nelson singing on the road again. on the road again. Yeah, right. But he was very uncomfortable to watch. Yeah, because Willie Nelson was stoned. The president should have been stoned. And now they've got to deal with this District of Columbia vote for belief-based marijuana. It's the Congress, the Republican Congress that's supposed to deal with this. This is not going to be, this is going to be actually quite humorous. And Veterans Day now shared

18:40 with World Freedom Day. Why? I'm not sure why, but it is the story of Berlin. Yeah, we talk a big game about the veterans, but we're always doing dissing them and thought, yeah, I think, yeah. So this is in conjunction with the celebrations of the Berlin Wall coming down. I personally was very disappointed that they did not have the Hof performing once again as we know David Hasselhoff. He's the one who brought the wall down. They did have his Madame Tussauds wax figurine in front of the wall. I think he graded it like at 200 yards. Yeah, so that was really fabulous. You know, I learned something today, actually yesterday. So there were big celebrations in Poland

19:31 or celebrations, that's not fair to say, but because of the wall coming down there were a lot of events. And let me just grab this one. This is There was, I think, a Holocaust museum opening up and that's why Roman Polanski was there. Filmmaker Roman Polanski has been questioned by Polish prosecutors in connection with a US extradition request over a 1977 sex crime conviction. Polanski presented himself to authorities in the southern Polish city of Krakow. Prosecution officials decided not to detain him. The filmmaker pleaded guilty in 1977 to having unlawful sex with 13-year-old Samantha Geimer during a champagne and drug-fueled photo shoot in Los Angeles.

20:20 At the time, he spent 42 days in jail as part of a 90-day plea bargain. But he fled the country the following year, believing the judge hearing the case could overrule the deal and jail him for years. In 2009, Polanski was arrested in the Swiss city of Zurich on a 31-year-old U.S. warrant and placed under house arrest. But Swiss authorities also decided not to extradite him to the United States. So I was curious about this now that it's been over 30 years and I think everyone's kind of like, okay, right. It was drug fueled photo shoot and whatever. Everyone's probably okay now after three decades, but why this con, why do they want this guy so bad? And I asked around, have you ever thought about this?

21:14 Well, there's a couple of things. One is the case itself. There's a good documentary on it and the guy was going to overturn the plea deal and screw him. And so that's why he fled. Otherwise, why would he? Makes no sense. But that was 30 years ago. And that was 30 years ago. And you'd think that, you know, if you've got something that's more than just an angry American judiciary system, I'd be interested. from the way it was explained to me, and this is also the genesis of Polish jokes in America. And it was... I'll have to... I'll put that aside. Okay. Because I'm not buying that. But let's go with... let's go with... put to you by whom? By a Polish native.

22:07 Okay, then we have we have a Polish producers and as you know the Polish are already Quite pissed at the United States over this visa waiver program that they're not in but it's very hard for Polish citizens to get it doesn't they're not an ESTA and Of course, we were there the guys who helped us the most in the Iraq war. Ah, okay So now you're getting to Bush now you're getting close the way it was explained to me is the Hollywood Jews hate Poland because they still feel that Poland was responsible for a lot of the genocide as they, they, that they helped the Nazis. That is a genuine belief. They think that the Polish sold them out. Yes. And of course, Dachau and Auschwitz are all in Poland and that this is what they're so pissed at this guy because he's Polish.

23:06 Roman Polanski was is Polish and they just they just it's like where you have Steven Spielberg gets Oscars Roman Polanski is one who would throw him in jail and that is where this And I'm buying into I think that there is that there is this anger from a certain certain is certainly a large selection of Jews who are descendants of of survivors or non-survivors of the Holocaust, who blame Poland? Although I don't know if that is necessarily true. This is a bit of a stretch. This grudge would go on this long and be targeting him. Well, it could just be a longtime message, you know? But that is what came up. I was like, well, that's okay. I actually buy that.

23:56 I see no other reason. It makes no sense for any other reason. And that's where I started to read into the early Hollywood, really started to do a lot of the Polish jokes, you know, right after the Second World War. And that's where a lot of the writers, you know, came up with these jokes and was all, as it's explained to me, I have no proof specifically. I didn't research it that far. Is that Hollywood at the time was, you know, let's just make the Polacks look dumb, Polack stupid. And it was still because of that grudge left over from World War II. Well, the Polish jokes did not come about, because I was fortunate enough to take,

24:42 a number of folklore courses at the University of California taught by Alan Dundas, who was a joke collector. And he also was a joke analyst, and he would analyze joke structures, including elephant jokes, cripple jokes, Polish jokes, all the rest of it. Well, the idea was this was Nazi German subhuman intelligence jokes that were adapted and turned around to be boomerang back at the Polish. Yeah, it could be. Some Polish jokes were brought to America by German displaced persons fleeing war-torn Europe in the late 1940s. Polish jokes became common, remaining some of the spread of such jokes under the Nazis. It's like the Nazis promoted these jokes, so this kind of puts a little cramp in there. Well, hello, deflect it. Yeah, that's right, those guys did it.

25:39 Yeah, those Polish guys. Hey, where were the camps, Poland? That's an interesting thesis. I mean, there's nothing you can do to prove that thesis, but I can see people believing it. Yeah. Passing it around, passing it to you. I've been very clear that was passed on to me that I have no proof, but I did. I've always been... Well, I know you've been baffled by this anomaly, that 31 years, you think the statute of limitations and everything in between would be in play. I mean, murderers go longer than this, or less time.

26:17 Something fishy about it, you're right. Yeah, but that was the best explanation. Who cares at this point? Even the girl herself doesn't give a crap. No, no, she's already forgiven him and that's all been... And these days, if you look at... I have an article here. And these days, you know, 13 years old, yeah, of course, It's legal in the Vatican to have sex with someone who's 13 years old. Yeah, but there's drug-fueled parties in the Vatican are few and far between. That says you. Well, I could be wrong. They may be parting it off. How do you know? You don't know that for sure. What is this? Here, teachers told sex at 13 is a normal part of growing up. This is just a recent article. This is in the UK.

27:06 You know, the attitudes change over time, but not the attitude towards Roman Polanski. I just thought it was interesting that that popped up again and just no agenda thinking, you know, I'm so why, why, why, why, why, who cares? No, when's the last, when's the last, what's the last movie he made? He does a lot of movies. He did a couple of them recently. Really? If I walked down the street, would people know Roman Polanski or Taylor Swift? Well, he doesn't push the movies as Roman Polanski presents. He just does a lot of films. Okay. Yeah, when was the last one though? That's recent. 2007, 2008. Quiet Chaos. Well that wasn't a big hit. No. But what he direct- as a director I don't think is, let's see... He did a short in 2012, Carnage, The Ghost. Old Man- Odd Man Out. He's done- oh, The Pianist. He did that. Yeah, he won three Academy Awards for it. Right, but he didn't show up of course.

28:09 Well, he did it. He sent a video in. Yeah, no, he's active. Okay, well, since we're on comedy for a moment, Robin Williams, Toxicology results release. This has been just beautiful to read all the articles about this. Yeah, I know what you're going to say and I'll help you out when you say it. Okay. Associated Press. Robin Williams autopsy found no alcohol or illegal drugs were in his body. Yes, illegal drugs. Let's make that clear. The results released by the Marin County Sheriff's Office found that the actor had taken prescription medications but in therapeutic concentrations. And they do not even mention which... They don't tell you what the name of the drugs are. Or even what the makeup of the drugs were. Right. What pharmaceuticals were in it. Nowhere.

29:01 And the press is so afraid of pissing off the pharmaceutical industry because they're big advertisers, they just, hey, it was no illegal drugs, okay? You only had the good legal stuff. And of course, the assertion is that it's like all this, anyone who has PSTD, When they're given legal drugs, you know, there's a high suicide rate. This is an epidemic. This is very, very, very bad. As one of our producers pointed out, these drugs, and there's a laundry list of them, the reasons of warning about thoughts of suicide is not necessarily because the drugs make you kill yourself, it's that the drugs

29:49 release certain inhibitions that would keep you from killing yourself under normal circumstances because you're not that stupid. Yeah. But because this is release code, you know, it might not be a bad idea for me to kill myself and boom, you do it. It's funny. Last night I was watching Lisa Ling. She has the CNN show, which is a strange show. It's always about hookers and drugs. And she was with a group of veterans who have post-traumatic stress disorder, who all said the same thing about the medication, that they didn't really want to kill themselves, but they felt less inhibited to just do it just to release the pain. Not really because they wanted to kill themselves, but it was only when they took the antidepressants. And then I had a beer with my buddy, the ex-banker.

30:42 and asked him about the... You know, when Robin was... before he got into these clinics, when he was using cocaine, which is a very... you know, he's a big user of cocaine, drunk a lot, drank a lot, drunk a lot, drank a lot, and did a lot of other things, he never killed himself. No, he was quite funny, actually. He was funny, had a good time. Yeah, that's right. And we have proof he didn't kill himself while he was doing all that, because he didn't kill himself. So I had a beer with my buddy, the bank, the ex-banker. The big banker. Yeah. And asked him about the suicide from, by the Deutsche Bank guy. Oh yeah. And he knew, my buddy knew him quite well. You know, like they traveled together, they'd done stuff, you know, they'd done business, you know, he was, I think he kind of mentored him in a way.

31:38 And he said, man, I really, really don't know. I really don't understand it other than that. Well, the whisper on the street is that he was hiding some really horrible personal secret. And I said, you know, you don't believe that. You traveled with the guys and now. But he, the extrapolation was without me really having to say anything that he might've been a little depressed about some things at work and that he had been prescribed antidepressants. And he had hung himself, which is another thing. This hanging business, you know, just seems like a... Jumping off the bridge, I can see that, which is another favorite of illegal drug-infused suicidal thoughts. It's just sad that we can't really get any real reporting on this and that no one seems to give a crap.

32:37 Robin Williams everyone oh, oh my Twitter change my Twitter icon. Oh I grew up with him, but no one cares Hello, maybe we could save somebody else yeah, I think there's a point We've made on the show a million times yeah, but not it not everyone has listened a million times. They should some you know some Sometimes you have to you know you have to reiterate stuff. It's okay. Oh Yeah, but I saw the same thing. It was just like, oh brother. Isn't that nuts though? Legal drugs, the illegal drugs are fine. Or the legal drugs are fine. Yeah. Nobody ever assumes that you did something because of the legal drugs. No, of course not. And they don't even make, but again, it's because of the advertising. Let's just make it clear that the beginning of the show pointed out two things. One,

33:32 Besides Adam getting jobbed by the Wall Street Journal, it was about the advertising in that article. And it's about the advertising in this material about Robin Williams. It's always about the advertising. That is why you have to support the No Agenda show. In a roundabout way. Do you want to do it now or do you? Okay in the morning to you John C. Dvorak Thank you for your courage in the morning you Adam Curry in the morning at all ships at sea boots on the ground subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there in the morning to everybody in the chatroom no agenda stream Calm good to have you all there lined up ready to go in the morning to all of our artists who are making good use of Sir Paul's revamped no agenda art generator calm. Thank you a native camp

34:21 For the art that we used, which was a good piece of art with the boot and the we are the world and the Africa. That was a nice piece. It really fit well with the with the whole theme of the show. Can you remember? Yes, it was dynamite! Although I don't believe we've had Native Camp ever credited for any of the art. Looking forward to what you'll come up with today and as John already mentioned, because we don't have, don't take, as I'm sorry, as noted by the Wall Street Journal, we, hey, we, we take no meetings here, but we can also really start to talk about the things that are not mentioned because of the advertising. That's because our producers who are our listening audience, who we call producers are supporting our program. Yeah, they are producers. Yeah, they are. They are producers and they support our program in an honest way, just like Hollywood.

35:18 Well, let's thank a few. In fact, we're going to start at the top with an instantite. Wow. Peter Puckey, I guess is how you pronounce that. $1,000 from Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada. A little long note here. This is my second donation, but I thought I'd make it worthwhile. My first donation was for the amount of $69.69 a while back. I was taken a little aback that you didn't read my message with the first donation. And the message was the correct way to say my last name. John, you slaughtered it. And as usual, Adam tried to help, but only made it worse. That's what I do!

35:59 My hope is that if I send you enough money to be an instant knight, you'll read this note and get it right. The name is spelled Papa Uniform Kilo Yankee, but it is said if you spelled it Papa Oscar Oscar Kilo India Echo Pookie. Pookie. Didn't I say Pookie when I just said it? You said, yeah, I think you did. I said Pookie. Yeah. Yeah. I must have said Pukie or something. At this point you say, just tell me what it is. Don't give me the code. Pookie pookie Hungarian yeah, the weakness is the English language. There's many different ways to say the written word true I wish to be angry, but we will know now because you're a knight Pookie does he have a name you want Oh sir captain Pete of the seven Equestrial oceans I wish to be deduced however there is a reason that I haven't contributed more

36:50 I was in a 25 year relationship which kept me poor. It happens that way. We have a number of people like that. You know who you are. All my money became our money and that left me with none. You didn't do it right. That's now over. Well, most guys don't. That's now over and I finally have some. It reminded me of a story. Yeah, go ahead. I knew this girl who was getting divorced. And she was like a lot of women who get divorced, not all of them. Some of them are very amenable and they do go through arbitration or whatever as normal. But she was not the type.

37:30 And so she went, first she got the top divorce attorney she could before the guy even knew what hit him. And then she went and visited every other divorce attorney within 100 miles to see if they'd take her case on and that immediately disqualified them from working for him. Oh, what a great idea. It was a great idea. And so the guy was screwed. He had to go to some buddy that was slipshod and he wasn't even in the area. Oh man. And of course she ended up with everything. Of course. I'm reminded of that. Anyway, he goes on, he says, now I finally have some coin to invest in the best podcast in the universe. I'm shutting down my business in Canada and looking to find a medium-sized yacht.

38:15 That's certainly not fitting the globe. Typically it's a fleet of 40 vessels that partake in the world arc each year. And as such I need some yacht-finding karma to get me on my way. You know, there are several days a month that I think to myself, if only I had some yacht-finding karma, my life would be so much better. Well, you know, he's a knight. He's got the right to do what he wants. He says, as he'll no longer be a dirt dweller, needing an appropriate ocean title, I'd like to be known as Sir Captain Pete of the Seven Equatorial Oceans. Another reason for donating is to celebrate my 57th birthday, which is today.

38:55 Is he on the list? I'll check. Should be, obviously. 57 years old from 1957. As well as the de-douching and the karma shot, I'd like an Obama A-team and two to the head. Also, if there's any No Agenda listeners that are sailors, contact me. You know we all have at least one thing in common, the No Agenda show. That's cool. You can probably hook up at any port around the world. And when he's sailing in his yacht, I wonder... He sounds like he's got some dough, John. Maybe... Well, he's got some dough left over. Yeah. Now that he, you know, got rid of the... He doesn't really mention what happened to her, huh? No, no, I'm sure she's fine. All right, thank you very much. Instant night and you shall be crowned Sir Captain Pete of the seven equatorial oceans later on in our second donation segment. For you, sir, here we go. You've been de-douched.

39:55 There's a need for a rescue mission. When the world is threatened, the world needs help, it calls on America. And that's the story. You've got karma. Hey, hey! Yacht Finding Karma. Yet finding karma. Gary and Joseph Oregon $333.33 from Joseph Oregon apparently. That came in over the mail to Box 339 El Cerrito, California. We love checks. Long time listener but first time donor. Here's a shout out to the best podcast in the universe. Keep up the good work and as chief

40:40 Pan, Chief Dan George said, endeavor to persevere. Please give me a MILF shout out to my wife, Dana, who I have turned on to your podcast and she's listening apparently. Hold on a second. Here we go. MILF, that's one mother I'd like to f***. There you go. Give him a karma. Oh, of course. Happy to. You didn't say it specifically, so... I didn't, I know. I just thought about it now. You've got karma. He may be an MD, because he scribbled MD out of the blue on that handwritten note. So it's possible. Alright, Sir Zog of Elwood. Yes, Sir Zog. Let me make sure. Is there anything above that? No.

41:30 Sir Zog of Elwood, follower of Sir A-Zog of Elwood. Right, as we know, yes. We've been writing valiantly on our steeds throughout the Chicago Southland and hitting people in the mouth. You turn a few and a few think you're nuts. Yeah. Of course. They're the ones that are in trouble. Yeah. Screw the losers who can't see what's happening. Young Sir Azog is now in the sixth grade, so we're starting to keep an eye out for school assignments where we can potentially propagate the formula. But my wife is a middle school teacher, and if this blows up on us, we'll be in deep shit. So this is the way...this right here is the state of the country. I'm gonna do a report after this and just indications. Read it again. Go slowly. I want to hear exactly what he's saying here.

42:17 Young Sir Azog is now in the sixth grade, so we're starting to keep an eye out for school assignments where we can potentially propagate the formula. But since my wife is a middle school teacher, if this blows up on us, we'll be in deep shit. So we're being like Fonzie and playing it cool and waiting for the right opportunity. I've been listening for over 400 shows and the deconstruction in the last year has been phenomenal. I got a chance to hang with a couple of Brits last week and with the knowledge and insight from the show they were amazed that I had any UK political opinions. We thought those Americans were stupid all I knew was french fries and McDonald's.

42:57 the deconstruction of the Scottish vote being used to get the Scots out of English affairs blew their minds, but they were totally all in. And by the way, I used that on Mimi's friend from the UK who is visiting. And she was also... They haven't heard this argument. I mean, I guess we picked it up from the Europeans, but as soon as you hear it, you go, ah, obviously. I'll be in London all week so I can see if I can get some people in the mouth while I'm there. And I could get a shout out to Brian Williams of Streamwood, Illinois, who actually is a knight but needs to get off his lazy ass and send in his accounting to get knighted. Okay, yeah. With a boom shaka laka where the head is gone.

43:39 Chaser that would be great a grab a karma for years for the show and yourselves while you're at it. It's on me value for value rules And her head is gone You've got karma works for me and finally our last associate executive producer Nathan Howard from Archer, Florida and My son Trevor turned me on to you. That's pretty funny. And listening to you guys is a privilege as the way you find and tell the truth is extremely rare and fascinating to listen to. Almost non-existent in today's bought and paid for mainstream media. The most enjoyable times I get to spend with my son are on Thursdays and Sundays. Thanks! Just give him a gratuitous karma.

44:37 You've got karma. We seem to have some kind of problem with the stream which avoid zero was working on but regardless of that We're having a problem streaming. Yeah, but it's something strange Elevator music is packed by that guy who sent us the nasty notes. I don't worry avoid zeros on the case Don't worry about it too quick PR mentions

45:23 Todd wrote me and reminded me that we have drone license.com which currently points to our no agenda show.com page. Oh, yeah. Do we want to do something with that? We were talking about you know getting in on the military industrial complex drone bonanza? Yeah, I think we should. Okay. Well, let's have a meeting about a meeting. Yeah, and thank you to... who did this? And I got to open it up and see. MTN Vortex, MTN Vortex, he tweeted this out this morning, has made a YouTube video which I put in the show notes which shows you how to use the search.noagenda, search.nashownotes.com

46:08 in conjunction with noagendaplayer.com when you want to find something. And it's really good. He just shows you how you integrate these two websites where not only can you find what episode something was in, but then how you use No Agenda Player to find that exact clip if it's not already annotated. You can help out by annotating and you can send someone a link that takes you directly to that piece. Nice. This is good stuff. Yeah, that is good stuff. I could use that. Yeah, didn't see that in the Wall Street Journal piece. They have a great search. They're very shallow. So are we. I once said, I don't know, somebody said, why are you, you know, why? That's a long story, but there was a profile of me and I said something about I don't write for the boneheads who read the Wall Street Journal. And then what happened? Well, I never got a job there ever. That makes sense. All right, everybody, if you're out there and about, please

47:07 please do the very important work of propagating the formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, Slade. Shut up, Slade. I think Void Zero fixed it already, so this is all good. He's the best. So this North Korea thing... It popped up all of a sudden and of course I'm itching, you know, I'm itching because I really want to call Don but I know it's inappropriate and I'm seeing him totally inappropriate, but I'm seeing him in, you know, like a week, a little over a week. Yeah, he'd know. He's 17 seconds in case you hadn't seen it or heard about it.

46:08 in conjunction with noagendaplayer.com when you want to find something. And it's really good. He just shows you how you integrate these two websites where not only can you find what episode something was in, but then how you use No Agenda Player to find that exact clip if it's not already annotated. You can help out by annotating and you can send someone a link that takes you directly to that piece. Nice. This is good stuff. Yeah, that is good stuff. I could use that. Yeah, didn't see that in the Wall Street Journal piece. They have a great search. They're very shallow. So are we. I once said, I don't know, somebody said, why are you, you know, why? That's a long story, but there was a profile of me and I said something about I don't write for the boneheads who read the Wall Street Journal. And then what happened? Well, I never got a job there ever. That makes sense. All right, everybody, if you're out there and about, please

47:07 please do the very important work of propagating the formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, Slade. Shut up, Slade. I think Void Zero fixed it already, so this is all good. He's the best. So this North Korea thing... It popped up all of a sudden and of course I'm itching, you know, I'm itching because I really want to call Don but I know it's inappropriate and I'm seeing him totally inappropriate, but I'm seeing him in, you know, like a week, a little over a week. Yeah, he'd know. He's 17 seconds in case you hadn't seen it or heard about it.

47:54 Back home in the US, the two American citizens, Matthew Todd Miller and Kenneth Bay, after being released from prison in North Korea. The two arrived at a military airbase in Washington. To the surprise of many commentators, James Clapper, the US Director of National Intelligence, went to North Korea and accompanied the two men home. So that's the tell right there. Well, this is interesting to me because I didn't get this little factoid. Oh, it's worse. It's worse. Come back on Air Force Two. Uh-huh. American jet with the, you know, USA on the side, which had to have obviously landed in North Korea, which must have gotten a few tongues wagging.

48:29 Well, not only that this report doesn't have it but a CNN was reporting last night that Clapper Went to North Korea Clapper who is the dumbest guy there is I mean the guy's dumb and he's a liar by the way He lied to Congress. He lied in Congress. Yes in Congress to Congress and he's and he had a note from Obama and And I just, oh here's the note I imagine. Dear Kim, I'm in the shitter. Please help me turn the news cycle away from my lameness. Please make me look good. I'll send you some Laker girls and Minnie Mouse outfits. Your pal Barry.

49:12 That's about all I could think of. It might have been just that. Now, I mean, he may have, you know, it wouldn't be beyond Kim Jong-un to negotiate these guys in exchange for a exhibition game between the Lakers and the Korean national team. Now simultaneously there he would be the Lakers though. It'd be one of the team. I think he fancies the Knicks He's a fan of one of the Knicks. Yeah, he's got some crazy. I'd have to look into but he's yeah, he's a Okay, wait, actually no. No, I thought now is one of the teams in Chicago Chicago Bulls our Bulls. Yeah, of course That's right

49:52 Now this does come on the heels, not really the heels, but on the Achilles heel of the big meetings in China, in Beijing with the Chinas. And of course we know the Chinas have good connections with North Korea. Maybe this was some kind of gesture from Beijing because this Kenneth Bae and let's also point out this other guy, Todd Miller, spook. Yeah, the guy does not exist looks. I mean yeah, it does not exist so the look these guys have Go ahead and find search around Todd Miller Brian the gay crusader who's really good at research. He says I can't find anything on this guy What do you think and I said spook so obvious spooks it to yeah spook so they sent back a spook and the the other guy the missionary the missionary and

50:50 Who's just gotta be a bonehead? And, but there's more strangeness to it, and I didn't clip any of it, but there's the guy who had the free Kenneth Bay campaign going. Oh, oh man, it just hit me. Oh, John, I'm such an idiot. Oh, I'm sorry. Ugh. I should have clipped this. I'm an idiot. Oh man, hold on a second. Let me get the exact... So you found... It's doing the show as a... It just hit me. Yes, yes, yes. You have decided that you have uncovered or overlooked the most important piece of information and what might that be? Okay. The Free Kenneth Bay Now campaign has been run... I got confused because I thought it was the Free Michael Bay. No, Kenneth Bay. Okay.

51:41 Oh man, I'm so stupid. Free Kenneth Bay. Good thing's stupid and tell us. Alright, well help me find out the name of the guy who was running that campaign because he was on CNN and he actually said, I've never even met the guy, I don't know Kenneth Bay, but this guy has been running the Kenneth Bay campaign and as I looked into it, his, hold on, he runs a sports marketing company. Oh, that's what I bring back. Oh, it is. Bring back Bay. Bring here. Sports agent David Sugarman. Hold on, David Sugarman. This is the guy who's been doing it. Oh, it's Sugar Time Inc. Let's see who they represent. Do you think they represent any basketball players, John? Many chance. Probably some Chicago Bulls. Let's take a look. Sugar Time Inc. Dot com. Oh, there's a basketball right in the middle of the page.

52:38 Oh my goodness, you got a motivational video. Oh, this is so obvious how stupid I should have here the clients all clients. Oh, man This is sugar time Inc comms that would be yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes sugar time clients It doesn't I don't I don't get anything under all clients you get anything under clients have to have a username and password. Ah, I Well, why don't we just go to the search. Oh, this is so obvious. Yeah, go to search. Actually, search will bypass it. Sugar time. There's a lot of sound effects on this site. Mostly basketball. Yeah, it's all basketball. There's a basketball guy. The clients. Let's see. What's the guy's first name again? David. David. David Sugar. Oh man, I can't. But this is I'm kicking myself for having overlooked this.

53:29 And it just hit me, I'm like, oh my god, of course. Yeah, I get to mention the Chicago Bulls, we know you're a big fan. Let me see, but I can't get into it. Here, let me try. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, they just, I'm looking at some news stories, they got five new, let's see, five new players, Al Walton, Doddry Brown, I don't know what this is. I don't, see, I don't know anything about, I don't know anything about sports. Hmm, yeah. Is David Sugar? Yeah, David Sugar. Let's see if David Sugar, let's just do Dennis Rodman. Might as well. No, Rodman wouldn't have an agent at this point. I don't think. Oh, maybe. Yeah, do David Sugar, Dennis Rodman. See if you can come up with that. No, I don't. No real hits. No real hits.

54:21 No, I'm telling you, there's got to be... You know, this is obviously what's going on here. And there will be a game, another game. You know, he's trying to westernize the country and get tourists to come and then, you know, get basketball to become the national sport. You can count on it. That'll be in the... I'll put that in the book. The national sport of North Korea will be basketball as opposed to the national sport more or less of South Korea, which is baseball. Right. You have a lot of major leaguers in fact that plays the Korean players. They like to throw it. They have a lot of underhand pitchers that throw of that weird sidearm underhand pitch very hard to hit. So now I have to go back and I have to go look at this guy because he was so happy and they had a little interview of him and said, no, I've never even met Kenneth Bay. You know, but he, but he's the one that for, I think since 2011, the spook.

55:15 No, no, no, no, I'm sorry, David Bay, I'm sorry. David Bay, I mean... Ah, David Sugar. Oh, geez, get it straight. I'm sorry. Now the spook was Kenneth Bay, right? No. Todd Miller is the spook. Okay, and is Kenneth Bay was the missionary? Yes, the missionary. Right. And David Sugar is the agent who was running the free Kenneth Bay campaign. Okay, and so he's a basketball guy. Yeah. The basketball thing fits right into the picture. Alright, well that makes sense. Yeah, a deal was done somewhere along the lines and this spook probably is the one who did the deal. And it was so embarrassing that they sent Clapper.

55:54 Let Clapper go. If this thing blows up, we want Clapper to be in trouble. Yeah, it was a poor... the operation was sucked. The idea was to get the... do the deal with the missionary and the spook was going to organize it. And somebody over there, and I'm guessing it was the spook, decided to steal some secrets. Yeah. And then he screwed the whole thing up. And so then all hell broke loose. So you had to send Clapper to straighten it out, reprimand the guy, put him at a desk job in Langley, and now we're good to go. The Chicago Bulls are on their way. They're flying in.

56:30 Although it may be Miami Heat. I think it'll be well. It might be like it I think it would be great if I was Kim Jong-un I would wait until the season's over because you can't do it. It's gotta be it's got to be something big John I mean yeah, I know it would be like this is champions of the NBA or a replay of the last game of the finals. And it makes so much sense because now we had a personal note from the president which was, dude, I'm gonna... And the president's a big basketball guy. And we're gonna be so happy because, oh, look, here's some relations, some goods going on, and basketball is going to repair our relations with North Korea.

57:11 Yeah, and I think when it when one of the finals when do we have the big season just began? I don't know thanks forever to organize these things so this guy was also Vice the players you know the players are not stupid. You know it's like what's in it for me. Yeah. Oh, yeah, of course And because the tip off was clapper. Our government, you know what? Here's my guess. We'll pay for it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The ticket on this. Oh, yeah. Because the North Koreans got to have no money. This is. Yeah, no, this is what's going to happen. He's also he resides in downtown Miami. So this guy's got he's got the heat. That's what that's what I'm sure. Let me tell you, Miami heat, Miami heat. Let me see if you must be representing some people from the heat.

57:57 Well, he was last year's champion, so it would make sense. And I think as if I'm not mistaken in North Korea, they haven't finished last year's season yet on their TV. On the Roku, on the North Korean Roku. Yeah. Let's see, David Sugar, maybe not. We'll find out. We'll figure it out. But he was also Chicago lawyer. Yeah, there's no other reason for him to have this website. This makes sense. Okay. I will. And this had, this is how it actually were. This is how our show was put together. Usually I do it before we start recording, but I'm sorry. It just, it all of a sudden I'm sitting on Donny. I'm Oh, it's because I'm not a sports guy. I need help. I need help with the sports. It's that's more your territory. I have a little report here. It's going to consist of eight clips, a little report.

58:51 And it starts with sports. And this is a corruption report, the Vorax corruption report on the university system in the United States. We need a jingle for this. I have corruption... There's no corruption thing. What clip are you calling? Soccer part three, but let's start with soccer. Soccer corruption, the first clip, soccer corruption. A young baseball player throwing too many pitches, for example, or a girl playing too much soccer on still-developing knees. It's happening all across the country, but we found a striking microcosm of the problem in the patients and staff at one clinic in Northern California.

59:33 Pediatric orthopedic surgeon, Rav Pandya, is scrubbing in for his Tuesday morning operations at Oakland Children's Hospital's clinic in Walnut Creek, California. So three or four ACLs today? Three ACLs today. Three ACLs. Is this a typical day? It's a pretty standard day for me. Kind of from week to week, I'll be two to three ACLs, a bunch of different sports injuries. So very, very typical. All three of today's operations are on young soccer players with torn anterior cruciate ligaments. Young soccer players. Uh-huh. Onward, soccer corruption 2. Many kids can and do come back and compete aggressively after ACL surgery. But some also develop osteoarthritis in as little as 10 years and that can put them out of athletic action for life. Where's the corruption bit? Just the whole that when it's over.

1:00:29 you'll see the corruption. Let's go to corrupt soccer part three. 400 teams who paid nearly $400,000 in entry fees alone. Many of the girls on these fields and their parents share the same dream. These girls want to play college. You worked your tail off to get into these showcases because those are where the coaches are for Pac-12 or your Big Ten. Those showcases are tournaments which college coaches attend to assess young talent. Injuries have caused Jessica to miss several showcases where she was hoping to be offered a scholarship. Her mom says without one, she won't be able to afford college. Won't be able to afford college. So these kids are out there crippling themselves. Yes, to get into college. To get into college. And of course, these are women because they can't afford college and nobody can nowadays because the universities have decided to jack up all the prices largely because of...

1:01:28 the student loan fiasco and And in the meantime, of course these colleges which are bringing in more probably more money than ever I just have this little side clip here, which is a lick observatory clip play that. Oh, yes Activists are claiming victory in keeping lick observatory open on Cal's campus They say the UC system wanted to gradually cut funding off for the observatory. So the activists responded with a petition drawing They say at the end of October the UC system relented and Lick will keep its funding for another five years Those who use the observatory say it's an invaluable resource This is an invaluable resource for graduate students and postdoctoral scholars It was the only place where astronomy students could actually practice

1:02:15 their science. The activists already have their next battle in sight. They plan to try to block the UC system from going through with its proposed tuition hike. Okay so now they want to raise the tuition again. Why not? Well, that's the point. Why not? Because when you have going to clip number student loan. Ah, of course, there it is. Student loan. Okay. First clip. Well, there's about a trillion dollars worth of federal student loans floating around in America. So that's just a million thousand million, isn't it?

1:02:52 A trillion, and for some it never goes away. Julie Watts on the Fed's plan to collect whether you have the money or not. The best case scenario, how long do you think it'll take you to pay off your student loans? Best case scenario is three years with a great, great job. One and a half years. Maybe three to five years. Right. When it comes to paying off student loans, most college students are hoping for the best case scenario. But Eileen Joyce might be dealing with the worst. I filled out the paperwork for hardship. Decades ago, she took out a federal student loan to attend graduate school but couldn't pay it back

1:03:28 because of a disability. I had no money just even for survival. So the government recently started taking it back. Ah, okay. Can I guess where you're going with this? Can I take a stab at it? Go ahead. But first of all, a trillion, is that a million million? It's a, uh, it's a lot. It's a million million. Yeah. It's a million billion. A million million. Sorry. Oh, it's a thousand billion. A thousand billion. A thousand billion. Which is a thousand thousand millions. Yes. So I think where you're going is you get these kids as young as you can and they're, they're, they're killing themselves. And of course it's like, it's almost like that. What's that movie where they, from the books where the kids are all trying to kill each other and to survive. Yeah. The hunger games. So it's kind of like a hunger games of soccer to get your scholarship, which is never full of course. And then you have, you still cost you too much money. You get the student loan.

1:04:27 And then you flow right into the minor leagues where they are going to, they collude with the government to enslave you as a player. Essentially enslavement. This is our own government with student loans. And if you remember Eisenhower's speech about the military industrial complex, and we've talked about this on the show before, was supposed to be... Industrial education. a military industrial academic complex. You're right. And that was actually in his written speech, but he dropped that. They crossed it out because it was too much for the public to absorb. Right now, this is what's going on. So our own government

1:05:04 is doing this to the students. Let's play the rest of these student loan clips. They're pretty short. Play number student loans part two. Deducting $100 a month from her social security check. I thought I had a protected income. Unlike other forms of debt, federal student loans aren't forgiven even after bankruptcy. The debt can be collected on for ever. Mari Castaldi of the East Bay Community Law Center says it's a scenario more and more seniors are now facing. The government doesn't have to sue you to come after your assets. They can just swoop in and kind of start garnishing wages or Social Security benefits. And in many cases it's not until people file for Social Security that the government is actually able to track them down.

1:05:47 And I might want to mention here... Wait a minute! The government is tracking you down! We're here to collect! And they collect with the, you know, the point of a gun. You know what else they do? This is why you cannot have offshore banking accounts. Right. Because the government cannot go into those accounts and just take your money like they can with all domestic banking accounts. I've had that happen to me. It happened to me. I remember I was at MTV And I don't remember what it was for, but it was some oversight or something, like a check had gotten lost. It was like a payment to the IRS. But I remember, this is early days of ATMs, and the ATM was in the bank there in New Jersey, and I'm trying to get out and it's not working. I walk inside and they say, oh, this is very strange. Oh, your money's been transferred to this account with all numbers nine. This is very strange. Let me see what's going on.

1:06:37 And they had just taken all my money out, they had transferred it, and I called the IRS, and this is about 1989 or a long time ago, and I said, well, what is this? Well, you know, we have payments. I said, hold on a second. You know, just call me, whatever. He said, no, well, we got your attention, didn't we? That was the answer I got. Yeah, that would be their answer. We got your attention. Wow. Okay, so this is pure enslavement. Yeah, and well, let's go to part three and then we'll then I can start to wrap in the past year over 140,000 delinquent student loan borrowers have had their Social Security garnished triple the number a decade ago and Castaldi says making matters worse The government is now using private collateral

1:07:19 agents who get paid on commission to go after the debt. These private debt collectors don't tell them about the options. For example, people with low incomes should be able to make payments as little as five to ten dollars a month, an option Eileen wishes she would have known about decades ago. So here's a situation that we have and it's intolerable and the colluders of course are the universities that create the environment for this. They have pretty much given up on, you know, working with the state government and spending money wisely. The University of California, which wanted to shut down Lick Observatory, a very nice facility, has been building like crazy. There are so many new buildings. I don't think if you look at the University of California today and compare it to, and the increase in students from 30,000 to 44,000, which gives it mostly Chinese,

1:08:12 from overseas so they can just make as much money. It's become a money-making operation. And the way it all ends up, and you have to play this clip without interrupting it. is the way it all ends up, the way we all end up at the end of the day is this clip. This is the weather girl and the anchor woman on KSBW just chit-chatting and showing you at the level of professionalism that we have in some of these stations around here. This is when girls take over the newsroom. Chances for precipitation, so that means equal chances for rain, equal chances for dry weather,

1:08:47 And equal chances for just about in between. And we have a week, El Nino expected, coming in the next one to two months. So we are rooting for that. Let's take a look at our KSBW weather kid of the morning. This is from Carson. He's a kindergartner at King City Arts Magnet School. And he says, this is my family and I at the beach with sun, clouds, and rain. It looks like he's got the forecast nailed. And they look very tan in this picture. Wow. Carson did a good job, I guess. We got a little rain yesterday. today a little bit today I think it's pink raindrops I like that I love that oh yeah I wish the rain was pink me too and tasted like cotton candy oh yes wouldn't that be great well it is beautiful out there even though it's rainy I'm excited to go outside we all we've needed the rain hold on one second John and there you have I just had to shoot myself there you have it welcome to America Wow well

1:09:41 I know what you're thinking right now. People at home are going, is he gonna do it? Absolutely. Totally deserve. But also because it's in combination with your... In tasting like cotton candy. ...in your deconstruction of the slavery through sports, which is nothing really new, except now it's girls, which I think is interesting. Well, this has to do with Title IX, Title VII. Once the universities or the courts The courts try, you know, it was going on in the universe is that all the big football teams and basketball teams are getting all the scholarships. And girls sports weren't getting anything, female sports, women's sports. And so there was a number of lawsuits about this. And so they decided with the, I guess it was the Supreme Court or the Civil Rights Act,

1:10:33 They put this in play that you can't give the football team millions of dollars without giving the women's sports millions of dollars. So they made it so they have to do that. And so the women's soccer girls get as much as the football players, although If they privatize the football sport and just let them make the money, and they sell out these stadiums. I was watching a game over the weekend, 102,000 people in the stadium. There's plenty of money to be made. There's like, there's 102,000 people watching a football game. There's like maybe 25 or 30 people watching women's soccer, but they have the same, you know, they get the same scholarships. So it's dumb.

1:11:13 Yeah, it's not even good slavery. It's just stupid. But that's the way it is and that's what they have to do. But right now with the tuitions and the student loans, the whole thing's a massive scam and it makes me wonder about Peter Thiel, the crazy guy. Maybe he isn't on the right track with his... He may be actually thinking along these lines all along. because he's extremely skeptical. He's really a libertarian. He'd be a perfect listener to our show, although he'd probably think we don't go far enough. But there is a lot to be said for this scam. We certainly could use some society. We certainly could use some of that Peter Thiel mad money. Yeah, I wouldn't have a problem with that. That would be very nice. We have our own people that do fine. Yeah.

1:12:01 We don't have to listen. Good job, John. Nice on that deconstruction. And I'm happy because I was struggling a bit last night with trying to, you know, trying to find stuff to deconstruct. Well, you can deconstruct this one. Play Clowns 1. Oh goodness. Do clowns make you laugh or perhaps feel a little uneasy? Well, clowning around in France has become decidedly more sinister recently after people disguised in clown costumes launched a series of attacks. Armed with iron bars or baseball bats, these so-called evil clowns have terrorized passers-by, especially after dark.

1:12:40 First seen in the United States, the evil clown phenomenon cropped up in France earlier this month. In one incident, car passengers had the fright of their lives. They're armed with bats, hammers, knives. They want to really attack people, stop cars, demand money. One evil clown in the northern town of Béthune has been given a six-month suspended sentence. Another was arrested in Montpellier in the south after beating up someone with an iron bar. These are serious attacks.

1:13:15 They can traumatize young women, young people, and can be a way for real criminals to act. I think, doesn't this happen from time to time where we get these clown attacks? I have a feeling that this is not entirely new. No, I don't think so because they already said it started in the United States, it's been on and off again, but this is new in France. And I guess it's caught on. It's like there's a little bit of a sociological explanation in the second clip if you want to play it. Of course I want to play that. The phenomenon has spread across the country. It's also prompted anti-clown vigilantism, forcing police to step in to try to quell the growing hysteria. And to avoid any disruption during Halloween, the mayor of the small village of Vingard in southern France went so far as to ban the costume altogether.

1:14:12 It is strictly forbidden for any individual aged 13 or more to walk around in the village dressed up as a clown. Although no one knows for sure who started this trend, some believe it could come from the Wasco clown. Originally, it was an art project featuring photos of an anonymous clown in the town of the same name. It is believed to have inspired copycats, with some sharing disturbing images of clowns in intimidating scenarios. According to this sociologist, the evil clown trend reflects a malaise. The clown can be seen as a victim. He's ugly, a failure, someone to distrust. And the evil clown can then be seen as a person seeking revenge. Police say internet has played a pivotal role in promoting the phenomenon. Authorities are now concerned about the teasing of incidents on Facebook, as here, posing in front of a police station. Okay, put this in the book.

1:15:12 Alright, I'm ready Isis dressing up as clowns Masquerading masquerading as clowns just write it in just clowns Void zero do I have to synchronize my clock? Oh, this is interesting oh I'm just synchronizing my clock John home, okay, we're getting buffer overrun, so I have to synchronize the clock that makes nothing But sense I know let me see if can I do it. I do this you're now in the book with the highlighted If this happens, I will be I will give you a little applaud literally applaud because that is a four-hour idea Yeah, but you know I'm thinking it's the way to go I

1:15:59 It would be. Evil clowns. Yeah, I've never liked clowns. I heard the story, I said, this is, I don't know why it's for this show. I've never liked clowns. A lot of people hate clowns. Yeah, well, I don't know if I hate them, but I really don't now. I'm not really big on the clowns. Five seconds, but my five seconds. No, I'm synchronized to the why would that make a difference in the stream? Well, I'm not a dude named Ben sure, but when you're But we're so we're having buffer overruns between me and the server and void is looking at the logs and it says we're drunk but We're behind five seconds or something. I don't know man. I don't know My Mac is set to the time server. I

1:16:47 Okay, he'll figure it out. Because he's like that. If anybody likes, especially if you don't like clowns, you should watch the... it's a movie, not a documentary, but it's quite humorous. A lot of people think it's disgusting. It's about an alcoholic clown called Shakes the Clown. This is one to watch. Shakes the Clown. I would recommend that film for anyone bored. And there's also a Christmas movie with the drunk clown. I think that might be with Bill Murray, he plays a drunk clown. Yeah, there was a... I remember that Christmas movie with the clown. Moving along into... let me hit you with some Agenda 21.

1:17:33 And we've talked about this company in the past. I looked it up on the no agenda search, search.nashownotes.com. This is NRG Energy Systems. And big investors, including Google. I think these guys actually were, I think that they invested in them because they wanted to use some of their solar technology to power data centers. and they received a, one of those one and a half billion dollar loans, loan or a grant, I'm not sure. Probably a loan turned into a grant because they didn't pay it back, maybe? Well, the problem is now that there is a payment due and the shareholders are asking the government for a grant to pay off

1:18:29 some of the demand due for a grant to pay off the government loan? Correct. It's a $1.6 billion federal loan that apparently wasn't good enough because now the owners Google and NRG Energy want a $500 million federal grant to pay off their federal loan. Well the company says the sun isn't shining as often as they hoped. Imagine that, the weather not cooperating. In the first eight months of this year, Ivapod generated 254 uh... thousand megawatt hours of electricity that's a quarter of the million that was promised so to compensate it using sixty percent more natural gas the very fossil fuels uh... you know designed to replace and the reason it got federal money energy energy insists of that is a reality of global warming rears its ugly head. ...things will improve the CEO visited the White House ten times its chairman wrote to the White House chief of staff that we need a commitment from the White House to quarterback the loan so it gets approved by the DOE that's interference that house investigators called the worst kind of cronyism. No kidding

1:19:33 And I want to take this opportunity to play a little piece from an interview that I've put in the show notes. It's a YouTube video. The guy's name is John Kutch and he is, I think he runs the Thorium Energy Alliance. He's a nuclear guy. But he's a very smart nuclear guy who used to be a part of a lot of this stuff going on in California with the solar industry. And I picked out this little snippet because he's really pissed. Now, I think he does believe in climate change. to a certain degree, but his entire...maybe he doesn't, but his push is if you want to shut down coal, then you have to use nuclear. So I like that, obviously, because I think we should be doing that no matter what, no matter what you think about climate change. It's the way to go. It is the future with the modern reactors that we have. But he has... How do you spell his last name? Kutch. Do you want the code or do you want me just to spell it?

1:20:32 Go! Kilo Uniform Tango Charlie Hotel. I just need the first... it was a C or an H. I'm going to disconnect from the stream and reconnect for everybody. See if I can get something going here. I'm not quite sure why it's all messed up. Okay, we are reconnecting. We should be back. Okay, so you got him. I want to play this little bit from this, it's kind of a documentary where he talks about specifically solar energy and stuff I didn't know about how very vulnerable solar panels are in industrial use. What most people in the public don't understand is that all solar cells inordinately benefited from good PR. Amorphous, flexible, I don't care what kind of solar cells you're using, solar and especially utility scale solar, you've got to these silicon sheets, you gotta have glass sheets, impact resistant sheets, aluminum frames,

1:21:32 vapor deposition of the materials using vast amounts of energy. They're almost all refined using vast amounts of electricity. As you start to pay off that energy deficit, oops I need more batteries, what do those take to produce? You get into things about the efficiencies not only to the decay over time but you might just blow out your solar cell altogether when just something as basic as a maple leaf falls on the panel you get a blank area in the solar cell It almost acts like a capacitor and the energy will build up. behind that shadowed area of the leaf and you'll get a burnt out section of your solar cell. When you look at utility scale installations, even when they're in the desert, you'll see that these companies will spray Roundup and all sorts of knockdown to kill and make sure nothing ever grows underneath these solar cells. All in the sake of making sure that grass doesn't grow high enough or God forbid a bush should grow high enough

1:22:29 on the face of your solar cell. Then they put in these large solar cell arrays using lots of concrete, lots of aluminum, tons of wiring, going to inverters to get on the grid. with sketchy, shaky, badly formed power and you're sending workers into these solar fields to clean off the dust that constantly builds up and when you get just a little bit of dust you can lose 10-15% of your efficiency so you're constantly cleaning these things. I am at the I forgot to warn you. This is why it's a good piece of video to watch, like 25 minutes. It's very entertaining.

1:23:15 And he goes into all kinds of... Well, you know, I think we knew most of this in the 70s when the OPEC thing created the first boom of this sort of thing. And of course, a lot of people back then were... It was strange as far as I'm concerned is that we didn't have... We don't have the... what was going on in the 70s which was the water heaters on the roof of the house. That was a big deal. Everyone had these, oh, and the water would get hot and then you'd use that for your hot water. How'd that work out? I guess those are all... People got tired of lukewarm showers? Is that what happened? I don't know what happened. And then the solar panels got, because of the Chinese solar panels mostly, they got so cheap that you could try to take another run at this. But I think if you do the math...

1:24:02 exactly what he said. I think they're losers. That's why the only reason they ever work out is when you get a bunch of rebates. In other words, the state and the federal governments give you money to put it up. And that's you were just scamming the taxpayers. This is nonsense. And Germany, because someone posted a really long comment on, I think show 667 or whatever. And, you know, talking to all solar and wind, they, you know, they're now, uh, efficient enough. No, they're not efficient. They'll never be efficient enough because you either have to store it in battery technology, which is just not efficient enough. Otherwise, you'd be able to go cross country in your Tesla.

1:24:42 Or you have to fire up gas plants, gas energy at night and when there's no wind. So it's just not efficient enough. And Germany had their big Energiewende and the German industry is in deep, deep trouble because they cannot afford the cost of the renewables that they were all supposed to all be in on. And Germany is trying to turn this Titanic around and get off of this track they were on. Oh yeah, they were all in. And the Germans have always been this way. And the industry is hurting severely because of the energy costs. Go ahead, search around. You'll find lots of articles about this. Someone else sent me some articles

1:25:33 which I thought was an interesting... it was just a couple of links and I do remember seeing one of them which is why it caught my eye about climate change. And the title of this article... let me see where did it come from... of course you see it in National Journal, whatever that is, headline, Condoms Fight Climate Change But Nobody Wants To Talk About It. And so there's three other articles I have all along the same line Here's the latest climate change statement, webcast your vasectomy. Okay, so if you see where this is going, is a eugenics program, which will be the final bastion of fighting climate change is stop having children.

1:26:20 Yeah, let's get back to that. Let's start killing people. I mean, I thought that we got the death panels in the last show, I think it was a genius segment. Yeah, well, but I didn't. Those are just, you know, let's get people to kill themselves, move to Oregon and kill yourself. But that's not moving it fast enough. No, no, no. Condoms, vasectomies. But I love this for Valentine's Day. This is the request for Valentine's Day. You can see more. This PR will be ramping up. Webcast your vasectomy. Why would someone be so sick as to want to do that? Well, we have World Vasectomy Day. This is the old stand up for, you know, stand up for. I stand, I am Spartacus. Stand up for this. Stand up for that. Let's show you're proud of being a stupid slave. Well, we. Is what it amounts to as far as no agenda thinking. I feel bad. We missed it. World Vasectomy Day was on the 7th of November.

1:27:19 I don't know if it caught on. World Vasectomy Day was when? The 7th? Was that a Friday? November 7th. That was a Friday, yes. That's interesting. Oh, we missed it. We did. That's too bad. WorldVasectomyDay.org. Check it out. They got a film! Oh, they have a film. Webisodes and Film. What's their film? Oh, this is okay. Oh, man. So there's just for now we're going depressing. I'd rather have the cotton candy tasting pink rain. I do like this idea though. Okay, why don't we start with killing the Chinese? And in fact, it's always being highlighted here. The Chinese have the right idea. One child per family. Well, just so you know that that changed quite a while ago. They got off that track.

1:28:16 You know, one of the things that we did when you came up, I still think, and I say this at every other show at least, is that clip of that guy who goes into Hollywood with the writers telling him to add storylines that serve the greater global agenda, let's say. Yeah, from the Lear Foundation. So in 2014, a new Jack Ryan movie came out, and this was called Jack Ryan Shadow something or other. Anyway, it's starring the guys, starring Captain Kirk in the new Star Trek series. Who's Jack Ryan? Is this some superhero? This is Captain Kirk guy. I should be aware of some superhero. Nah, he's just an actor, but he plays Captain Kirk in the new Star Trek things and that's all I can think of.

1:29:02 But that's not the point. The point is, is the messaging. This is after Snowden was kidnapped, of course, that all of a sudden, instead of the typical terrorism kind of scenarios that we had in these storylines, I want you to listen to this one and tell me that this hasn't been planted by somebody for a reason. Jack Ryan 1. Two weeks ago, I noticed a series of accounts in our Russian partners, records to which our company's computers are denied access. Massive currency accounts. All in US treasuries. Shraven's made a total commitment to US dollars when there's been a hurricane in the Gulf and a string of negative economic reports. What does it mean? It's external sterilized intervention. Like I'm an idiot. The dollar should be going down, but it's up. A few cents every day the past week. I think they're propping us up. Why? I think there's a coordinated plot within Russia too.

1:30:05 Collapse the dollar and it's gonna happen soon Wow, hold on. I got the clip. It's only 20 seconds. Martin Kaplan of the Lear Foundation. So in the course of our work, this is in two years, 11 to 13, 335 storylines that we worked on have been aired. We've worked with 35 networks in the past four years, 91 different television shows.

1:30:42 There you go. Yeah, so let's finish it up. What's gonna happen to us? Because of the Russians. I'm sorry. I said because of the Russians. Once the Russians start to sell, the rest of the world is gonna dump every dollar they have. Alright, let's say it's happened. Let's say you're right. What's the aftermath? They'll recover. We won't. We don't have the royal reserves. We're looking at the panic of 1837, the panic of 1893, the Soviet famine of 1932. Hyperinflation. Breadlines. Rioting. I know, I get it. This is great. This is, uh... When you say this on a podcast, you're called a crackpot and spit on.

1:31:32 And by the way, I do know who Jack Ryan is. turn around after like a decade of the thing being in the toilet, which of course helps us when it's weaker because we get our exports are cheaper. There's no, we are the ones buying all the treasuries and us and this kind of, you know, when they put this stuff out there, which is so obvious anti-Russia and I got, I have a couple of clips I'd like to play.

1:32:15 In fact, I'm going to play, I'll come back to it. First the news, JP Morgan has agreed to lead a $700 million bond offering for Russian gas producer Gazprom. This is a, now this is short-term money, which makes it legal under the sanctions. This is so, a couple more. Russia is increasing investments in France. Cooperation in science projects, US to remain priority with Russia. And here we have US and Russia on Ukraine. The US and Russia have agreed to exchange information about the situation in eastern Ukraine, according to US Secretary of State John Kerry. The Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said if the US got involved to help resolve the conflict, it would be a step in the right direction. After their meeting in Beijing, both admitted, however, that they don't see eye to eye on events in Ukraine. We do have some disagreements about

1:33:19 some of the facts on the ground with respect to Ukraine. We have agreed to exchange some information between us regarding that and we have also agreed that this is a dialogue that will continue. Lavrov said the US should discourage what he called hotheads among Ukraine's leadership from resuming an all-out conflict with the rebels. This is a fire hazard sign between the rebels and the government. It's for them to finalise the disengagement line, which they are doing right now. More fighting was reported in Donetsk overnight, underlining the ceasefire's fragility. The Ukrainian army says one soldier was killed and over a dozen injured. Meanwhile, Russia's foreign minister laughed off Kiev's claims that there'd been a new Russian military incursion into eastern Ukraine this week.

1:34:07 So we're working together, although we don't see eye to eye on everything. But then, you know, with all of this obvious business going on between France and Russia, United States and Russia, JP Morgan raising a $700 million bond for Gazprom, back at home with ABC, with our own compromise media. Reports of a cyber attack on the nation's critical infrastructure, hackers targeting America's power grids, gas lines, water treatment plants. and more using malicious computer software. The hackers now believe to have links to the Russian government. ABC senior justice Pierre Thomas has... Now listen closely to this report for any evidence or any true recognizable source of evidence about this being from the Russian government. It's a late breaking... This is ABC News.

1:34:55 This is the world, this is the world the news tonight David Muir took over from Ryan Sawyer. He tells he's been talking to his sources today. Pierre? Yeah. David, some of the computer systems serving the country's most important utilities have been penetrated by hackers using malicious software called Black Energy. It was planted years ago but has not been activated and only recently discovered. What's at risk? Power plants, the electric grid, water treatment facilities, natural gas pipelines. In theory, this software could allow a hacker to use the internet to shut down a generator, flood a water treatment plant, or turn off a pipeline. If you think this is science fiction, take a look at this. In this test, home

1:35:36 Homeland Security researchers used a hacking attack to make this generator self-destruct. David, if it was turned loose on our industries, it could cause chaos affecting thousands. That experiment very telling. And Pierre, you were telling us that your sources are revealing that authorities believe the Russians could be behind this? They're saying sources possibly connected to the Russian government are the prime suspects, David. So they did a test. to show that, oh well, you know, it looks like it could happen. And then they just say, well, sources, some sources say, oh, it looks like it's the Russians. This is not news. This is propaganda. And I looked up- Why is a generator hooked to the internet? That's just beyond me. Thank you for asking.

1:36:19 So I looked it up, this is from the cert.gov website. Ongoing sophisticated malware campaign comprising ICS update A. This is from October 29th. I'll just read it to you. First of all, it's only an amber alert. It doesn't sound like red alert, red alert, Russia. The word Russia is not in here anywhere in this report. ICS CERT has identified a sophisticated malware campaign that has compromised numerous industrial control systems, ICSs, using a variant of the Black Energy malware, a well-known exploit apparently. The campaign has been ongoing since at least 2011. Multiple companies working with CERT have identified the malware on internet-connected human-machine interfaces.

1:37:07 Which include GE Simplicity, Advanced Tech Broadwind Web Access, and Siemens WinCC. It's all Windows 2008 systems that are compromised. Cert has not observed the use of this vulnerability to target control system environments. Thank you. Okay, so where's all the scariness? And then they have a lot of technical info at the bottom. Here's some recommendations. This is recommendation should you be running critical infrastructure. The US government recommends number one Minimize network exposure for all control devices. Control system devices should not directly face the Internet. Tip number two Locate control system networks and devices behind firewalls. Isolate them from the business network. Tip number three

1:37:59 If remote access is required, employ secure methods such as virtual private networks or VPNs. Tip number four. Implement policies requiring the use of strong passwords. And tip five, monitor the creation of administrator level accounts by third party vendors. If this is the level of advice we have to give to our critical infrastructure... Hey, we could be running one of these companies instead of sitting here talking. We are morons is what we are. Retarded morons. Well, the one thing we can do, and I'll kick this up a little bit.

1:38:38 This may not just be about what you think it is. I believe that underfoot, the entertainment industry is going to produce a slew of cyber-related sitcoms, not sitcoms, yeah, maybe sitcoms. Maybe sitcoms, yeah, sure. Sitcoms, dramas, and I've got one, I've got proof of one coming. I know we saw Scorpion, which is supposed to be this huge hit, and it's moronic, and if it is a hit in any way, and you claim it is based on the numbers. Yes, on the numbers, yeah, on the numbers, yeah. It's going to open a floodgate, and the one I'm predicting that will be coming out shortly, based

1:39:15 only on a recent episode of CSI. And you remember CSI used to have CSI Miami, CSI New York, and those franchises were killed. But they kept CSI so they need a new one. So I'm predicting CSI Cyber. And the reason is because they ran one of those episodes that was obvious. Obviously- John, John, John. Don't you remember I told you this? You might have. But I told you like in secret? Well, so now I just want everyone to know that that I told you this yes, and it was supposed to be secret well It's not secret when these two things happen on television when it's obvious that they are they're priming the public for CSI cyber and here is cybercrime one listen to the dialogue You are science cops. I'm a cyber cop I

1:40:12 I work crimes that start in the mind, live online, and play out in the real world. You work dark alleys. I work the darkness. You chase suspects. I chase notes. Note. Short for... Bad guy. What? Little childlike drawing. Bad guy. This iceberg represents the internet. And believe it or not, the world only uses this top 4%. The tip, the surface web. I work down here in the 96%. In the deep web, where criminals are anonymous, where money is untraceable, and where everything illegal for sale. And what does this have to do with Mr. Berman?

1:40:54 Well, Berman's having a relationship with your mystery woman a woman named Kitty Kitty Kitty it goes on and shows Kitty is a it's actually a Love it a robot girl that looks just like a real the real thing and it goes that's it's crap. But And but the whole thing is crappy and then the very end of the show this the cybercrime to clip the very this is the end of the episode if this doesn't tell you that there's going to be a CSI cyber nothing will That was nice So this is goodbye. I guess huh for now We're you off to bank robbery How much

1:41:40 Oh, give me a break. Talk to me. How much? Three copper pennies from 80 million checking accounts. 2.4 million a week. Makes for one hell of a heist. Check your bank statements. No kidding. And they say there's no such thing as the perfect crime. It's not the perfect crime. It's cybercrime. Yeah! Ba-da-da-da-da! Ba-da-da-da-da! Whoo! Miles and miles and miles At least the guys who do NCIS.

1:42:15 make it a little more subtle that they're working on a new show. Although it's been very observed and easy to spot. But this is ludicrous. This was the stupidest episode I've ever seen. And this woman is anything, if you wanna see a nerd woman who was into this stuff, they're out there and you can find them on YouTube. This is some actress and you know, node equals bad guy? I mean, come on. A node is a bad guy. Bad guy. Wow. We're gonna be stuck with this. Well, so I Yes, it's coming. And in fact, I think it is It called exactly that what did you what did you call it? I call it CSI cyber. I think CSI I think that's exactly what it's called actually. Okay. Well, I derived this from these clips not from anything you told me well, but subconsciously

1:43:09 It's possible that subconsciously when I saw this, even though it was such a dead giveaway, I was actually recording it originally because of the stupidity of the story. Because when they had this fake woman who was the sex bot, and then she's confused her with questions like how many legs does a bicycle have, and she goes on and on. The thing literally fractalizes on the screen and then falls apart like a wireframe yackababla at the end it was it was idiotic And so that's what I thought I was going for. Then when the end came, when this it's not a crime, it's cybercrime. So then how does ABC get duped? ABC has got something in the works. But the CSI is CBS. That's what I'm saying. Oh, they got something in the works too. I'm saying that ABC has also got something in the works. Of course.

1:44:02 Because if CBS is going with... if CBS, which is the leader, so everyone copies them, they've got the Scorpion, which is a cybercrime story, and now they got CSI... Got it, got it. By the way, John, clowns, ready for it? And this is why we have... this is why we have the Global Intelligence Network. Stephen King's It to be remade. Stephen King published his best-selling horror novel 8 in 1986 under Viking Press. It was developed into a TV miniseries and let's see this is from May. Stephen King's new It remake is already shaping up to be increasingly more violent bloody than the original. When is it due? Sometime in 2015. There you go. Ramp it up. So this is Hollywood promotion these clowns.

1:44:59 Yeah, yeah beat someone over the head with a pipe fine. That's a small price to pay for the numbers kind of money that's gonna be made with this and People will go really no yeah, really don't you want to be so cynical to see? Anything we're the least cynical people I know well while we're on this for a moment then I Maybe we should just, I mean, I should do this now. I think, uh, you know, when the evidence is laid bare before your feet and you say, look at this, this is what's going to happen. Yeah. It's very obvious. So obvious. That's not being cynical. My phone, my phone, the way I see it, the only good phones, the landline and the phone should be made out of Bakelite. Hey, now, hey, now, rubber, rubber, rubber.

1:45:54 Did you see this is I think this is very important tech news John did you see the Amazon echo? No, ah Okay. Amazon Echo, which I believe you're an Amazon Prime member. Oh yes. Yes. It will be $1.99 for non-Prime members. $99 for Prime members. I have ordered this. I need to see it and use it. I need to see with my own eyes that...and I've seen postings. Mike Elgum, he wrote a post for one of his Computer World things.

1:46:34 And he says, I love it. And all the comments are, this is great, I can't wait to get it. I recorded the whole promotional video, which is a little too long, but you'll hear, you'll understand what it is in the first 30 seconds. Well, I'm looking at the web pages now, so I already know what it is. When it first arrived from Amazon, I didn't know what it was. What is it? You'll see. Is it for me? It's for everyone. It's called Amazon Echo. How's it going? I'm just finishing up right now. Is it on? Oh, it's always on. Can you hear me right now? It only hears you when you use the wake word we chose. Alexa. Well, what does it do? Alexa, what do you do? I can play music, answer questions, get the news on weather, create to-do lists and much more. And this thing goes on for five, four, no, three more minutes from here. And

1:47:30 It's like you have a new member of the family and how do I spell cantaloupe? Give me my flash news, Alexa. Does anyone see that this is a spy device you're placing in your home? Totally a spy device. It's like the Microsoft... put that with Microsoft Connect. Oh my... You're connected. You're good to go. It's just... And the other details can be done through Facebook and Instagram. I cannot wait. for this thing. Because I'm an Amazon user, I'm going to do dog barking. I'm going to have all kinds of stuff to see if that influences my advertising that pops up or choices that I'm offered. Oh yeah. It's got to be connected. Yeah, I think it's good that you get one. And if you look at the... I've seen a EULA, Terms of Service. I don't know if it's the real one, but it pretty much says

1:48:31 If you have something private, don't say it in front of this box. I almost literally said it. I wonder how many people want to have sex in front of the box. Alexa, would you like to join us? There you go. Oh man. Alexa, Cortana, Siri. These are the ones, Cortana and Alexa. What is Cortana? Is that the Windows? Cortana is the Microsoft, yes. This is good. I'm sure that the public relations department at Edelman loves to hear you say, what the hell's Cortana? Cortana is the Siri for the Windows phone. Yeah. And it's better. It's better than Siri?

1:49:13 Yeah, really? Yeah, the advertisements Okay, must be true. You're just saying that in fact Siri and Cortana talk to each other in one of the ads and I have seen that okay. Yes, I have seen Cortana is humiliate Siri much smarter man, but you know what John I think we you know we can make our version of And it will be kind of like the magic eight ball outlook is cloudy. We should we should give it a name and make it a magic eight ball. Yeah, but you know, some basic stuff. Well, we could change the codes inside the magic eight ball to say something like in the morning. So our code word is Mohammed. So I'll be we need. No, I'm not going to do a Mohammed joke. OK, what do we do then? Let's do a different one.

1:50:09 Well, it has to be I think it should I think the work right I think Microsoft's got the right idea they have a hard sound core time I mean you it's easier to pick up than theory or What is a really lame name? Tiffany it's my sister's name don't say sorry Tiffany don't do that It was sorry some ganges how about JLo doesn't listen or show yeah, I know no Mickey's the only family member that listens to the show I just like to I just like to have one of these make one of them we could throw a little raspberry pie in there and

1:50:46 You know, they just... Jane is... I'm gonna use... No, but how about a dude? No, it has to be a dude. It has to be a dude. Dude. How about just call it dude? Dude or biff. Dude. Okay. Okay. I'll be the dude box. Go ahead. Dude. Hello, John. What is the... How do you spell cantaloupe? Why don't you go blow me? Yeah, that's the way it would work. Yeah, that's all it says the whole time. Yeah. Outlook cloudy. Ask again later. What were some of the other Magic 8-Ball answers? Outlook. All signs point to yes. All signs point to yes. Outlook hazy. Play me my flash news. This is NPR News. I'm Lopshning Shmay. What's the girl's name? Lopshning Shmay? I have no idea. Anyway. I don't even... I rarely listen to NPR. I mean, I do listen to the shows like On the Media and some of these other things which are kind of

1:51:51 I don't know, they're kind of lame, but they once in a while bring out some good stuff. But why do people want this? Is this... Do they believe in... Who says they want it? I'm seeing... I'm seeing a very positive response. Why? So you could ask a box stupid questions that you could easily answer yourself just by going to Google? Well, no, John, I think you're wrong about this. I think you're wrong on this one. I'm seeing Siri as a big hit for certain applications. Don't use Siri anymore. I believe you're wrong. I've never seen anyone using it. I see Mickey use it all the time. And you know how she uses it? She owns one application, but she uses it for directions.

1:52:39 So she'll just say, you know, like Botticelli restaurant Austin. And then Siri goes, Okay, I see you have a restaurant nearby. It's called Botticelli's. Would you like me to program the directions for you? And then that seems like a big waste of time when you with a Google phone, you open up maps and you push the microphone and then you say Botticelli restaurant Austin. Yeah. And then it just gives you the directions. It doesn't talk to you. Oh, OK, well, let me look for you and all this other bull crap. It just gives you the map and instructions on how to get there. It cuts out all this nonsense. It's nonsense.

1:53:18 I'm just telling you that it works. Well, I'm sure it does work. And I'm sure that some of the time I'm sure that it would be just lovely to be, um, dude, how do you spell cantaloupe? That is, that is actually the example in that Amazon, uh, video. The father can't remember. He's like C-A-N-T-A. Why is he spelling cantaloupe in the living room or wherever? No, it's in the kitchen because the kid is doing homework and needs to know how to spell cantaloupe. And so the kid asks the dad and the dad asks the Amazon? The box, yeah, the box. Why does the kid just ask the box? Because, well, I don't know. This is, it's very subtle training. It's like, don't, kids, don't ask your parents. They're stupid. It's subtle.

1:54:03 Anyway, along with our tech news, I wind it up with this little ditty here. Interesting report, who wrote this? I think it's from the New York Times. That if you have a car with... most modern cars have, you know, like the GPS stuff in there, tracking, etc. Yes. And apparently enough of them have GPS-based kill switches that some creditors are now disabling the vehicles. If you're behind on your subprime car loan payments, they just disable the car. What if you're driving and you're passing another car and a truck is coming at you, you got to punch it and get over or they're going to get killed? You're asking me questions that I, of course, I don't have an answer to. I just thought it was interesting that this is now taking place.

1:55:03 Well, two things are gonna happen with this. One, that's one of them. The second one, of course, is when you go in, because you're gonna have to get your car smogged in most states, California being one of them. Oh, yeah. If you don't have the right sticker or if you haven't read something else, it'll just be disabled, just won't work? No. They're gonna go through the records and say, oh, looks like you were speeding on Tuesday last week. Oh, yes. One mile over the speed limit and you know that's a violation. Yeah. Oh, looks like you ran a red light. Oh, there's another speeding. Oh, this was a boat. This was 10 miles over the speed limit. That's going to be a hefty fine. You'll be getting your bill in the mail. You're right. You're right.

1:55:43 And I believe that's what this is really all about. This is not for the convenience of anybody, it's for the state to get, they need money. These states are, I was just listening to this, I have a clip here, because somebody wrote in saying, well, you guys use shadow stats, it's bull crap. And- That was his actual voice. Yeah, exactly. which is to imply that our commentary, which was that the public was voting for the Republicans because they felt that the economy was not in a turnaround situation and things were getting worse. This was scoffed at by Gwen Ifill and the other PBS folks. It's not true. We're doing great. So here's a little thing I got from there's a little meeting in one of the

1:56:29 conference room somewhere in Washington, D.C., by the Governance Magazine, which is what all the state governors and people like working the government read. And this is just the states are broke. States are broke. States are broke. state budgets. And revenue growth at state level had been about 6% for decades until 2008. And it just looks like half the states still are not where they were in 2008. And the revenue growth is not going to be that great. And you're going to have Republicans who are interested in cutting taxes further. But even on the Democratic side, I was really struck by this quote today in the New York Times.

1:57:04 Jerry Brown, you know, the story was rare bright spot for Democrats. And he said his quote was, living within our means is a heroic continuing battle here. You know, Brown has fought the Democratic legislature to keep spending limited. And you know, Pat Quinn, who lost in Illinois, he'd cut pensions. But the unions supported him because they thought Bruce Rauner would be worse. I mean, the Democrats are having to be austere as well. And the Republicans, of course, are more conservative on spending in general. I think that's, you know, that's going to be the impact. Less Democratic venues and more Republican governance. That really... They need money and they're going to get money with those devices put on your car. Yes. It's easy money. And by the way, it goes like this. This sucks that you guys are tracking me with this stuff. Did you go over the speed limit or not? You went over the speed limit. It says so right here. So what are you complaining about? There is a speed limit for a reason.

1:58:03 And you went over it. Yeah. Oh, and by the way, this turn that you made was an illegal U-turn. That's a hundred bucks. Yeah. The cab the taxi cabs in Amsterdam now have this this full-on complete they've all by law now have to have an electronic box the box registers their speed how long they were driving because you you have a personal card a Chip and poke card pokin pin and you can be a poking pin and you slide it in and so that whoever Joe you're driving the car and it won't start without it and And so it registers where you are, if you went over the speed limit. And they haven't been sending out tickets yet for violations like that. But it's coming and all the cab drivers know it. Well, cab drivers today, everybody tomorrow. I don't see any reason why you wouldn't get in your personal car and you have your driver's license, which is also a poke and pin card. You stick it, slide it through some little mechanism or you just poke it through an NFC connection. You just beep.

1:59:06 And the car is like, this began with the keys that became a wireless transmitter and you push a button to start your car. This is what, 10 years ago when you first started seeing these things? And you know, you have your keys in your pocket, you don't even pull the keys out because there's no keyhole to stick a key in. You just have a radio in there and then you push the button, the car starts up. This would be the future of how they monitor where you're going, how you're going, and it's not because I would say, at least not in the beginning, that someday it could become this. It's not just to track you so the black helicopters can blow you out of the water in the middle of the freeway. It's to get money from you, to catch you speeding and making U-turns and doing all sorts of things that are floating around when you should be in the hospital and you're collecting insurance. This is what it's about, it's about the money.

1:59:56 I recommend everybody read the fine piece of work by Ted Kaczynski. Because this is exactly what he said, people. iPhone schmiphone. And that wraps up tech news. I'm going to show my support by donating to KnowAgenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Quick shout out to Void Zero who is doing his best. It looks like we might have a hardware failure. Oh, well that happens a lot. It happens. So he's working and he said, okay, I'm able to explain. I'll explain it to you later. Yeah, that's a good idea. I'm doing a show. So while I'm doing a show, I'm also like, you know, I'm reconnecting streams. I do a lot here. You barely know. Like a man with six arms. That's right.

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2:05:55 Could be. But it looks like Stephan to me. No, that would be with an A. It's Stephen. Okay, it's Stephen Olker. Olker. For his quest toward a knighthood, you're gonna have to keep, I'm gonna tell you right now, Katie, you're gonna have to keep books on this. Also give him a birthday shout out. Last month he donated for my birthday, so I had to step up and return the favor. Steve is a long time No Agenda listener and donator and has never received the NA birthday shout out. Aww. Anywho, my donation is 7737. I can't stand it. Anywho, is a belated 7th. Anyways, anyways, yeah. I think anyways with a Z is the way to go by the way. Anyways.

2:06:46 Uh, delayed his seventh anniversary not for you fine fellows plus 37 cents because that is how old Steve is turning. That's how old he's turning. Very nice. Steve, Steve and Olker. Thank you for all of your hard work and so on. So Steve Olker. Olker. O-L-K-E-R? That's what it looks like. Okay. Hey, that's nice. That's very, that's very kind of you, Katie. Is she, is she banging him? Well, she will be after this. It's a good thing Robin Williams is dead because we can fit right into that the vacuum

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2:08:20 Well, he's not the only one. Apparently Daniel Torello in Charleston, South Carolina, astonishing town by the way, 5678 says Tom's knighthood. So is this now Tom's donation? I guess it is. Somebody picked it up. 5678 from Bill Hartnett in Torrance, California put towed toward Tom's knighthood. Oh, that's pretty beautiful. Fegley in San Clemente, California, 5555. It's been a douche way too long, he says. Daniel Baumgartner in Plano, Texas, right up the street from you, 5133. He sends funny notes. Thank you for waking me from my Google Glass Explorer drone sleep. That is funny.

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2:12:05 and night of the Noah Jenner Roundtable for you my friend. We have hookers and blow, Rind Boys and Chardonnay, Root Beer and Legos, Ass Cream with Bear Fillings, Porn Stars and Pot, Mushroom and Maker's Mark, Bong Hicks and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escorts, or maybe just some mutton and mead if that's what you're into for those long nights on the yacht. Some mutton and mead will always do you well. and please jerky and some jerky go to no agenda nation.com slash rings and just tell us which port to send it to we'll be happy to oblige general delivery as ready let me see what do we have here's a couple things

2:12:50 I've teased the last thing Cohen our buddies. Oh, yes. Yes, even Cohen professor Cohen professor Cohen The only reasonable person seems to be easier that or is a Russian agent. Yeah, he's probably an agent. Yeah, so I'm guessing yeah, so he's on One of the shows that with Amy Goodman I built no this was a PBS. Oh And he gets into it with this guy who's a first, I can't remember his first name, Weiss. He used to work for the State Department. He's kind of a pasty looking guy, which is an apologist for the government. And he, see, I think this is part, let's start with the part one liars. Was it William Weiss? No. This is Cohen versus Weiss. No, I'm just trying to think what Weiss it is. I don't remember. It might be William. Well, let me turn this to Russia, Stephen Cohen, because you said a moment ago that

2:13:37 that Putin or you said the Russian leadership at least a big part of it wants negotiations. How then do you explain the military incursion on Ukrainian territory what we just heard from General Breedlove from NATO what he called provocative overflights over Western Europe by the Russians? I don't know how to put this gently, and I don't want to sound disloyal to the people who represent our countries, but we have had quite a few reports, not only from General Breedlove, but from the Swedish and the British about so-called Russian incursions that have turned out not to be true.

2:14:16 And we've heard these for months and months, and now in the last few days, we are told that the Russians are doing all sorts of provocative military things. Unmentioned is the fact that NATO is building up its military forces closer and closer to Russia. Do we expect the Russians not to react? Can we trust these reports that we constantly get out of Brussels and out of Kiev? I think that these are the utterances of people who want to escalate the crisis. What we need now is a kind of leadership that sees war as so dangerous, in the sense that it might bring in Russia and the United States, that all the energy and all the public statements are directed toward negotiations. I simply don't agree with Andrew that Kiev has made a good-faith effort toward negotiations or even in maintaining the ceasefire.

2:15:05 Yeah, there was something peculiar in that commentary that I didn't catch right away. But it was the mention of all things. He didn't talk about these reports coming from Latvia or Estonia or Germany or anyplace else, but he mentioned specifically Sweden. What has Sweden got to do with anything? Sweden, the way I saw this, if you listen to that clip again, the way I saw, at least at the beginning, I saw this as Sweden was the only country that would step up to the bullshit and actually be counted as, yeah, yeah, no, the Russians, they're making trouble, I can tell.

2:15:45 And this tells me, this is dimensional because this tells me that indeed the Swedes are going to turn over Assange if they get the chance. They've sold out. Ah, well, they're always our special envoy. Isn't the Swedish embassy the one who communicates for us inside North Korea? Don't know maybe yeah, I think in Iran. It's always the Swedish. Yeah, there are you can't trust them man, and that's sob car I mean really the you know this and ABBA come on I mean what else Roxette I like I kind of liked Roxette rocks that was okay. They got tons of songwriters in Sweden

2:16:28 Good song. And we, uh, the, uh, happy song part two, if you want to play it, of course, of course it's because it's professor Cohen, please. NATO's top commander general is this, yeah. Phillip Breedlove spoke today at the Pentagon. What you saw this past week was, um, was a larger, more complex formation of aircraft carrying out a little deeper. Uh, and I would, I would say a little bit more provocative, uh, flight path. And so, um, it is a concern. Back in Kiev Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko has called a meeting of his top security chiefs tomorrow Yes, yeah, okay, I should play that clip first, but that's okay. That's okay. We get it. Well. There's a lot going on today

2:17:11 in Euro land. Very big day for Spain and Catalonia. Tensions are running high ahead of Sunday's vote, which has been called by the nationalist regional government of Catalonia, with the support of pro-independence political parties and grassroots groups. Voters will be asked two questions. Do you want Catalonia to be a state? And if so, do you want that state to be independent? But the referendum is technically illegal. The Spanish government has successfully appealed to the country's highest court to deem the vote unconstitutional. What's going to happen tomorrow can be called whatever you want, but it's not a referendum or something similar and I am not going to describe it. But I want to say that it will have no effect.

2:18:01 However, the head of the Catalan government, Artur Mas, has vowed to push ahead with the referendum, which he acknowledges will not be legally binding. In an apparent attempt to avoid further clashes with the Spanish government, Mr Mas has said that thousands of volunteers will administer the voting process, rather than his regional administration. Polls show that around half of Catalonia's 7.5 million inhabitants favour independence. But with most of those who oppose a break from Spain likely to stay away from the referendum because of its illegal status, an overwhelming win for the Yes camp is expected. Now here's the kicker. They do not expect to have the results for at least two weeks.

2:18:47 Why? Because it's not an official vote and, you know... Because it's not official, you can't count as fast? It doesn't make sense. Yeah. But also they need people to give people enough time to all go to the polling places. And then they've unpaid volunteers, of course, doing... This is essentially a survey. Yeah, it's a bit of a survey, true. But, you know, it's interesting. It's interesting to see. And I think that we may have a hand in it. I'm seeing professional looking signs, you know, that's always a little... Oh, you... what would be the point of us? I don't know, John. Why not? Why not?

2:19:27 Just to keep in practice. Just to practice robalization. We got a training camp in Catalonia that you're gonna get there. You're gonna work on it. You're gonna learn how to do a little social networking. You'll be there for two weeks and then you're gonna work on getting the vote. And you all speak good Spanish, right? Yes, okay, good. You'll be there for a couple weeks and then we'll see, we'll grade you afterwards. Yeah. It's a very funny report out of the United Kingdoms, as now nine countries have received an extra deadline extension for this overpayment or this, what is it, a repayment in arrears for the EU budget. The payment, this is great. I'm not following this closely, but I know it's hilarious. Well, so here's what's funny.

2:20:17 The first of all, the reason why it happened is because everyone who said, Hey, we got hookers and drugs and stuff in our GDP. And then the EU went fine. You owe us more money. That was a mistake. That was not good. And so they have to, so they, I mean, if these guys are smart, they say we're in a depression, we have no money, you know? Well, well, Because a lot of national investors, a lot of countries are having problems. They actually don't have the money. Bulgaria has to pay 7 million euros and they haven't even got that. But because they can't print money, you know, everyone's in euros. So it's a problem. It's a big problem. So the UK has to pay, what was it?

2:21:02 1.7 million pounds or 2.1, 2 billion euros. And this is not looking good for Cameron. So they came up with a ruse and the ruse goes something like this. Yeah, we fixed it. Yeah, we fix it. We won't have to pay until next year and we won't have any interest payments. We fix that and the rest we get as a rebate. How did they manage to fix it? Brussels asked the UK to pay an extra £1.7 billion because our economy grew more than expected.

2:21:39 But it's now been agreed half that amount will be offset by a rebate because of the extra VAT raised. And the outstanding amount will be paid in two installments, in July and September next year, after the general election. But the shadow chancellor took to Twitter to denounce the deal. Nobody will fall for this smoke and mirrors, he tweeted. George Osborne is simply counting rebate. Britain was due anyway. Not a single penny's been saved for the taxpayer, he said. Compared to two weeks ago when Cameron was blustering in Brussels. And Mr Balls claimed Cameron and Osborne are trying to take people for fools. They failed to get a better deal for taxpayer. Yeah, so they just... That's the world's longest tweet. How did they do that? Ed Balls. Ed Balls. That's what our device should be called.

2:22:34 Balls balls balls Okay, here. Let's try it balls. Yes, John. How do you spell cantaloupe? Oh You're laughing at me does not compute Will Robinson I can't do it. I'm looking here. We have euro at a buck 24, which is less than a dollar a nice nice fantastic nice and that's been taking I produce she's I was hoping that was having two years ago, but now's the time to do another year the The Japanese yen is way too cheap. It's at a buck. It's a hundred and fourteen it should Generally used to be parody at about a hundred and then it became 80 which meant that everything in Japan was more expensive but now that it's so

2:23:22 Cheap you this is discounting all the Japanese cars. This is a disaster for Japan disaster for no not for Japan They get though the export a lot. It's a disaster for our automakers the way I see oh I see what you're saying the British because now the Jews added to it Don't we make all that stuff I have a Lexus by 30% but don't we make those cars here? Some of them we do, most of the high ticket ones are made in Japan. And it also affects the prices here too because the parts come over from Japan. The British pound is still a little high at $1.58, but that's better than the $1.70. And the price of oil is now down to $78. Oh man. And gold is down to $11.69.

2:24:10 So, things are looking up for... And where's the stock market? Is the stock market up towards 1800 yet? 18000. That's what I mean. I'm such an investor. 1800. I'm an astute investor. It's at 17,573 and I'm guessing it should crack 18,000 in the next month before the end of the year. This is not investment advice. This is I wouldn't invest at this these prices. No, I would go to Europe and especially if the dollar gets to a buck 15, that'd be great What just go hang around go hang out? I'm going I'm going to Europe. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm not I'm saying hey my I'm looking at my You know, why did Tom Collins come out? Your Tom's he wants this out. Yeah, Tom back to the pants Steve Cook. I

2:25:04 Sorry, I didn't mean to... Timothy Cook? Yeah. Tom Cook, Collins. Tim Collins. Whatever. We have... So I'm looking for more big names coming out as I think that this may... You have this thesis. That there may be a... To pave the way for Hillary to come out before she announces her candidacy. That is your theory. I like it. If she did that, I think that would be the kicker, that would be the way for her to... Not win. I don't know. Finally, something. Latvian foreign minister. Yeah, here's why she wouldn't win, and this is why I don't think this is gonna happen. It would be a... Although it could happen if she gets the bad advice that she normally gets, but it would be a shot at Bill.

2:25:58 Well, of course. Yeah, it'd be just a shot at Bill. Actually, I think it actually would help him. Get laid? Well, no. So then everyone will say, oh, well, of course she was gay. No wonder he was horny all the time. Right, it would help him. But it would be a shot that would hurt her and she would not get elected. Okay. It's not going to happen. Latvian Foreign Minister Edgar Zrinkarviavr has come out of the closet. Oh, and he... You're correct in this assumption that this is going to be a wave. And he tweeted, hashtag proud to be gay. This is the hashtag you got to use. Proud to be gay. So did you look at all the proud to be gay hashtags? I have not. I have not. Should we do that? That should be done. Let's do it for a second. What is it? There must be a lot on there. Twitter. Okay. Where do I search? Search. Here we go. Hashtag proud to be gay. Let's see what we come up with.

2:26:58 And what do we come up with? I have to go to all. Proud. Oh, okay. There's quite a bit there. This is a lot about him. He Cole Ledford. You're so brave and incredible. How to be gay. There's a lot of proud to be gay. When do you want to use then? Why can't they just all use the one? Okay. I'll just leave it at that and see what happens. Okay. We'll we'll keep our eye on that. Proud to be gay.

2:27:35 Now, the advocate, this I thought was of note. As you know, I always try to... There's somebody in the Proud to be Gay list that has a kitten similar to the one I posted in the newsletter. Oh, really? Another with one cat holding another. I think this should be the subject of our next newsletter, hashtag Proud to be Gay. I just don't think there's any content here. See what the opens are. Listen to me. The Advocate. Are you familiar with this magazine? The Advocate? Oh yeah, it's a very famous, I think it's out of San Francisco. Yes, a very famous magazine. It's a newspaper actually. Well, it's online. I don't know if anyone still buys the... oh man. Have you noticed this that they now have... if you want to read this article you have to answer two survey questions? This is a chicken...

2:28:21 Yeah, yeah, I don't know that but I've seen that that trick used before and now I have I went to the advocate and it is an Advertisement and says continue reading advocate after this video So I'm sitting here you're gonna be very intrigued by the kind of advertisements you now get on Amazon and elsewhere Oh because of my hashtag pot of the gay going to advocate. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'll keep my eye on it Yeah, it's gonna be hilarious. They have chosen their person of the year. Oh The computer is the computer No, look, no. Would you please go to theadvocate.com and look at the person of the year, but also look at the cover of the issue 1078 and look how they... Just look at it. Just tell me what you're seeing. Well, I have to look at it first. Yeah. Advocates search. You'll probably have to sit through... Nick Jonas? No. He's the guy of the year? No, the person of the year.

2:29:19 Come on. I have a picture of the Jonas and then I have, oh man, this thing's a piece of crap. It's loading every which way. Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry. Advocates going. It's the advocate. There's a bunch of jokes I can use about the way this is loading. Yeah, I know. Don't do it. I don't see any person of the year link. Really? Oh, person of the year, Vladimir Putin. Now look at the picture. Putin with a Hitler mustache. The person of the year is the Hitler mustache. And you know what's interesting about this picture of Putin? He looks like Clapper. No, no, he looks like, what's his name? The guy who owns the Chertoff. He looks like Chertoff. It looks a little bit like Bloomberg too, actually. The person of the year is Vladimir Putin. What's the point? Oh, because this is the gayest of all gay magazines, newspapers. And they're calling him out as the worst, most homophobic, horrible Hitler person of the year.

2:30:23 So they're comparing Putin to Hitler in their humor. Yeah, they're getting that. Now, unfortunately, I can't see anymore because I got some stupid advertiser that cropped up. Yeah, you have to watch for 27 seconds. I have to watch this. It's a mastercard. I'm killing it. I got the same one. I got the same one. That's horrible. It ruined my experience. This is the problem with advertising. You ruined my experience. I couldn't even read the Putin piece. And then of course, you know, they have all these stats and Putin hates gays and Putin's anti-gay and the Sochi Olympics hate the gays. Yeah, it's a Putin hit job by the advocate who are obviously have been visited by that character whose clip you ran a little earlier. The Hollywood hit guy. That's possible. It could be. Or either that or they just bought into all the memes and they don't care. Could be.

2:31:17 Okay, um, quick, uh... Caliphate. So we had another strike, the Allies strike, and we have zero evidence of anything. And what do we get? We got him! El Baghdadi, we clipped his wing! I think we got him, we might have gotten him, I think we probably did something, we blew something up and we struck some- yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Ten armed trucks were destroyed in the attack. But in a statement, an official from US Central Command said, we cannot confirm if IS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was among those present. This strike demonstrates the pressure we continue to place on the IS terrorist network and the group's increasingly limited freedom to manoeuvre, communicate and command.

2:32:06 It's not the first time there's been speculation about the IS leader being killed or injured. A day after such rumours in July, the terror group uploaded this video, claiming to show al-Baghdadi preaching at a mosque in Mosul. How many times are we going to kill this guy? Well, it doesn't matter because the next guy will take the same name. Right. It's not his name. It's just Al Baghdadi. It's like El Presidente. It's like we had to do everything. We had used the basketball angle. What happened is the president did not

2:32:42 convince anyone for his party. The poor job, Politico by the way, is calling for him to fire Valerie Jarrett, which I think is funny, is a great article. Get her out. Yeah, she's the one that's responsible for all these failures. Oh yeah, but that's not gonna happen. And no, and you know, then we have this bombing. Oh, we think we get just, it's lies, it's just lies, it's all cover up. Cover up and lies, bull crap. So I switched over to the BBC, I couldn't watch any more of it and the BBC on Newsnight

2:33:18 in advance of the new Android operating system, which comes out soon, doesn't it? Doesn't... don't we have a new... it's called Skittles or M&Ms or what is their... Yeah, it's called something. ...cute name? Cotton candy? Whatever, who cares? And but they are pre-marketing, and this is what this part is, pre-marketing that just like the iPhone, they will have complete encryption on the device. so that no one can steal your stuff from the device. Of course, this is not... this is really a setup to have everybody believe that it's all encrypted because no, they leak all this stuff. The whole idea behind Android is to track you and have you upload stuff automatically to the cloud and Google Drive and Google Calendar and Gmail and blah.

2:34:05 But I did think it was a noteworthy to clip in the latest manifestation the new head of GCHQ Robert Hannigan writes in the FT Increasingly their services not only host the material of violent extremism or child exploitation But are the roots for the facilitation of crime and terrorism However much they may dislike it. They have become the command and control networks of choice for terrorists and criminals who find their services as transformational as the rest of us. One thing that government agencies find maddeningly frustrating is not being able to get hold of the wealth of data stored on someone's mobile phone, even if they have a court order. Today, Google began rolling out the latest version of its Android operating system. This encrypts by default.

2:34:58 The result is that even if you pit the most powerful computer known to man against a phone like this, the phone wins. The lead Android security engineer- What? I know, it's bullcrap. Google- This is just bullcrap. Yeah, that's why I like it. Explained the company's reasoning to Newsnight. Whenever people have built systems and tried to make it possible for only the good guys to get in, it always turns out the bad guys figure out how to do that as well. And so this is a system where we built it using the best cryptography that we're aware of, that the industry knows about, and we make it so that only the person who knows the password can get in.

2:35:34 And there is no back door. There is no way that you can call locksmith or you know, your best tech savvy friend and he can let you in this It's called lollipop. Yeah, the Lollipop Lollipop. So they have a conversation the song lollipop lollipop They have a conversation in the student in the studio and they have the CEO of last minute comm which is the big last-minute travel booking site very successful huge And of course, the conversation that is now being held in the United States of Gitmo East, UKs, is should we have, should we allow the authorities to have access to our data through, you know, obviously a strong legal framework so that they can, you know, track down child molesters or whatever.

2:36:27 And this guy says a couple of interesting things. These techie guys? Could you be any more insulting and condescending, you news douche? He's a news reader. I'm afraid I feel they are, but I think what's happened is that there's actually been a bit of an overreaction post Snowden and we've gone to this other extreme is that any sort of access is terrible and the fact I'm a bit disappointed that Apple and others are marketing their new phones and saying it's impossible for the security services to get in. If there is, we need more trust in the security services, I agree, and there were too many people that had access to Snowden files, 800,000 people or something.

2:37:15 What? Did he just say 800,000 people had access to the Snowden files? Well, that's not what he meant. I think that's exactly what he meant. No, no, I think what he meant was 800,000 people had the same access as Snowden. Okay, let me listen to it again. Maybe I misunderstood. There were too many people that had access to Snowden files, 800,000 people or something. That's, that's too... Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay. So 800,000 people had access. But Snowden files, he had PowerPoints. What he meant was the files that Snowden collected or the Snowden files, there were 800,000 people that could have done that. Yeah, but this PowerPoints... They had access. That's what he's saying. So what's the point? No, but then I don't understand what he's saying. Then I don't get it at all. What he's saying is that there's too many people with this sort of access. But that makes no sense.

2:38:11 Well let's play the whole thing again and then maybe we can figure it out. You know, these guys, he says there's this pendulum swing and it goes one way to one extreme to the other. It was like ridiculous that 800,000 people had access to everybody's personal information, the Snowden stuff. And now nobody will have access, which of course we don't know is true. But it sounds like, oh, they've gone too far. Maybe they should have done something in between. So the important security folks could at least get into the phones if they wanted to.

2:38:55 Agreed? All I'm saying is Snowden had no access to any systems. He had access to PowerPoints that talked about systems. We've never seen any code or anything to show the existence of this stuff. Yeah, no, that's true. So I don't know if Snowden had access to it. He had access to the PowerPoints. Access to some files. Yeah. It's ant-fucking, I agree. Anyway, so I'll move on from that guy. He's uninteresting. He wants it, of course. He thinks it's great. And then they bring in the... But he thinks it's great that they're encrypting these phones? No, no. He thinks it's great that there should be access to the phones. He's all in on... And we don't... This could be all... In my opinion, this is all bull crap anyway because the deal's already been done. These phones are not secure. Exactly. It's just a fool to dummies. Yes.

2:39:46 Yeah, and then also the last guy I'll bring in is ex-MI6 guy Richard Barnett. And he of course is going to tell you that what we need is a, I think we need a serious debate which will be just sliding you into the inevitable people. Well I think the issue of trust is a very important one. I wouldn't agree with your characterization of the Security Services actions because I think they were very careful, particularly in the United Kingdom, to abide by the law. Now, whether you think that what the United Kingdom security services were doing where the law perhaps left a bit of a gap, well, that's another matter. But I think that generally speaking, GCHQ or the other agencies were very, very careful indeed to order

2:40:28 ensure that they were following the letter of the law and the spirit of the law too I would say for that matter. But if the trust has been undermined by Snowden's revelations and that is one of the additional damages he's done then clearly that trust has to be rebuilt and and that therefore does give rise I think and room for a very useful debate. Intelligence work takes place within a strong legal framework. We operate under the rule of accountable foreman. In some countries, secret intelligence is used to control their people. In ours, it only exists to protect their freedoms. Protect their freedoms. Protect their... ...the facts of this world! And you will all surrender to them! You pigs and you... And her head is gone. Yeah, there you go. That summarizes the whole thing. That's it. That is it. That's it.

2:41:43 Alright, well I got nothing to top that. I do have a funny out clip if you want to play it. Well, if it's funny. It's funny. This is the thing. I don't like doing these. And we've only done them once before. But they're funny to watch and listen to. And they're easy to do. I think we could do these. You can just you can just fake censor somebody make it sound like they're saying something dirty if they have like a okay What are we doing? What are we doing a hard a hard sound at the end of a word? It makes it sound obscene if you censor it

2:42:21 So just play the okay Thanks for watching us tonight the Democrats get their butts New York Yankee slugger a rod is accused of his cousin I like that both you come on you and your new colleague from West Virginia. Come on hardball sunlight some right on the air I want to see you guys together this guy's about to start people again. Jason Aldean and those little big town with Ariana Grande. Hello Guinea convention they're just everywhere I still have that taste in my mouth by the way. Okay on to some entertainment news for you Taylor Swift just

2:42:59 More than a million c**ks. Even today women can be f**ked for taking too many bathroom breaks. They ended up making the media leave about an hour and a half ago so they could bring in the b*****g dogs. You fell to the ground after you f**ked her in the behind. Believe me, I f**ked my way through the Iowa State Fair. And if you got within five feet of me it was probably because I was trying to f**k you. Mr. Finn, if you let us in, we can teach you how to f*** your own d***. Really? Si! I'd like that! Come on in! Now, this would be good if you didn't make it though.

2:43:40 No, I stole it from Kimmel. Oh, were you playing Kimmel's bits on our show? Sorry. Oh, that's lame. Yeah, it is. Oh, that's not good. Oh, John. This is not okay. This is something we could do. Yeah, but then do it. Eh. Oh, okay. Then I have to play an out clip because that was stupid. Ripping off Jimmy Kimmel. Who even watches Jimmy Kimmel? I don't know. This is... I'm waiting! Yeah, well I'm... I'm... I'm recovering. I'm recomposing myself here for a moment. My goodness. Recomposing? I'm decomposing. I'm decomposing myself. Decomposing yourself. Here is Charlie Rangel with broth. That guy's still alive? Oh yeah.

2:44:29 Charlie Rangel is a prominent, is he a senator or congressman? He's a corrupt congressman. He was busted for corruption and the locals just said, yeah, keep voting him in, we don't want any white guys in there. Well, that's his message too. I want to give you a chance, Congressman, you and I have known each other for a long time. To clarify controversial remarks you said at a Governor Cuomo rally in New York last week. You said, and I'll read it specifically, some of them, you're referring to Republicans out there, believe that slavery isn't over and that they won the Civil War. All right, what did you mean by that?

2:45:10 They used to call themselves Dixiecrats. These were slaveholding states. They've been frustrated with the Emancipation Proclamation. They turned over, became Republicans. Then they became Tea Party people. And these are the people that are trying to frustrate people from voting, changing the voting rights that we fought so hard for. And all I'm saying is, if you want to challenge the statistics, find out where the slaveholding states are. Find out whether they were Dixiecrats, weren't Republican. Find out where the Tea Party is.

2:45:45 And I'm just saying that it's unfortunate America doesn't deal with the problem of racism. But until we acknowledge that it exists and fight hard to eradicate it, then we still got to be frustrated by people. come from the South and they all have these feelings about superiority, and that's true whether you're picking cotton or whether you're President of the United States. So you're doubling down on those remarks. You're not walking away from them because as you know, they cause quite a stir, raising the specter of racism out there. And I want to point out to you, an African American Republican was elected the United States Senator in South Carolina, Tim Scott.

2:46:28 We're not talking about America. We're not talking about the advancements that we've made, a black president, the explosive number of African-American and others that are now in the Congress and holding. We're talking about a cancer that we have in the United States of America. America knows who they are. They know how they feel. And we're talking about dealing with them. Got it. I'm telling you, I'm glad I played that clip. You were sitting on this thing. Yeah, you like it? Yeah, that was a great clip. In fact, if you hadn't given me the clip of the day, I'm almost giving it to you. That was a good clip, but that's that tip, but that's a classic corrupt prick. That guy's a dick. Who's using, you know, the race card in a way to keep getting reelected. He's the one who's the big racist. But allow me to ask you a question. Works great, by the way.

2:47:21 Am I really just blind to it? Am I really not seeing it? Seeing what? The racism that everyone keeps talking about. Probably. It's not, I don't think, it's not as, well, it It was the white vote that put Obama in, how racist can you be? I think you had that other clip, like last week or the week before, that woman who was black and the CNBC was going on and on trying to make it a race issue and it wasn't. She's in Utah, which is lily white. But maybe I'm just not seeing it. Maybe... You're not seeing it. I'm not. Is it really that bad? No, no, it's not bad at all. I thought we progressed quite a bit. Well, talking about race... No, I can't eat that. I'm not going to do the segue. So I'm done. All right. Are you doing... Yes, I am. Good. I will be... Who else is on the show? Two people I've never heard of. Really?

2:48:25 Yeah. Ah, okay. Well done. Good. I'll have to watch. Although I'm, um, you've got other things to do. I got to play basketball with Mickey basketball. Yeah. She wanted to know how to dribble. I mean, a basketball. Yeah. Of course. I had a dribble. I know how to, yes, but she's never, she's, she's never shot hoops and we have the, uh, never shot hoop. No, sir. And I bought her a basketball. Well, she's tall enough. She should be a woman basketball player, but I think it's a little... Okay, never mind. Yeah, please. Have fun. Yeah. You have to dribble with... You have to bounce the ball with one hand only at a time. You can't do it the way I'm... I'm sure she knows how to dribble. I'm talking about the ball. Wow. Look, just because you got in trouble with Mimi for saying that the beauty tends to fade, you know, don't try and get me in trouble. This is not the... Beauty tends to fade. It does.

2:49:24 Alright, then it never fades. Huh? Yeah, there you go now you're talking alright I'm working on a couple stories for Thursday show okay getting lots of info in about the Extra 1500 advisors we've sent to Iraq. Oh, yeah, we're up to 3,000 now. Yeah, that's ludicrous Then we'll see what happens to Valerie Jarrett She's going nowhere. She's his confidante. She contributes more than his wife ever will. Probably for reasons. Okay. Thank you all for supporting the program. Dvorak.org is where you can find ways to support us financially.

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