After Spin Class

00:00 Do you subscribe to Out Magazine? Shivering my butt off in the capital of the drone star state, smack in the middle of FEMA Region 6. From Austin in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's not cold...I'm John C. DuBois. Now for us it's rather strange to have 63 degrees in September. Uh-huh, yeah I think so there supposed to be like a hundred and two It was last year this has been the coolest summer we've witnessed here in Austin Global cooling is what it is exactly what it is Caused by measles What? Caused by measles Wait a minute the global cooling is caused by measles

01:04 Caused by measles was a clip that we used to death. I don't remember there We use they were promoting the measles thing it was all the news everything is talking about measles And there was this one woman It was taken from law and order and she just and her just dropped it into caused by measles. I don't remember caused my measles Was that the name of the thing it was one of your clips no doubt oh, yeah Yeah, I try just look up measles. You'll find that's exactly what I'm doing. I got like measle shots It doesn't seem right hmm caused by me so I have to look up though. I don't remember it exactly yeah caused my measles Okay ah So anyway, yes very chilly here We've had rain all day yesterday But just the chili part is what is surprising

01:52 Whereas it you know, it's been 90 even the 90s is cool. Oh freezing for us Yeah, that's it's cold What's going on dear? Why are you wearing a jacket? 90 yeah exactly Well, you know it's good to have a cooler weather. I think that you don't really like the 105s No not at all not at all but I just find it funny that You know here we are It's chilly yeah and all the people that knew about there were some say it again There was some get-together thing something I was kind of forced to go to Was that

02:31 When was this? What was this about? Yeah, I'm trying to think. It was Friday Okay... it was the constitutional lawyer's wife Was retiring from whatever she was doing and so there's like a party you know on Rainey Street Which is that's kind of like the seedy bars Of Austin okay yeah, and you know it was raining It was raining? Yes, it was raining. Was very cold Friday and very cold Saturday. And I walk in and I'm like see because of course everyone has heard me say over and over again global cooling and now it's now getting annoying because now it's turning true. Global cooling. Now they can't make as much fun of me. Global cooling is evil. Cook! Cook! Another cook!

03:17 Yeah, watch him say it's global cooling. Yeah yeah Well I'm having dinner with the constitutional lawyer Tomorrow night, but it's just a dinner between you guys Yeah Just guys exactly and we need to catch up You know I got to understand this unlawful content better than all this stuff There's a lot of things that are nuanced that you know I'm not I'm not a lawyer yet Yet notice the yet bit Working on it huh alright So, did you hear about this kid that was...now you got three people stuck in North Korea? No. I didn't hear the North Korean news. Yeah well there's two guys just stuck in North Korea and looking at this because I want to go to North Korea right? This is like a long-standing thing and something oh geez they're all Americans. They're just throwing Americans in prison for no reason as what kind of the meme is but in fact it the latest case with some young guy goofball who

04:18 who goes to North Korea, he's actually clinically insane. He somehow gets... I don't know where he gets the money but he gets to North Korea and then as soon as he gets into the capital he tears up his travel visa and asks for asylum. Hey dude! They immediately know he's crazy because who the hell would do that? So he asked for asylum and then he makes the claim that he wants to be in prison so he can write a book about the injustices of the North Korean regime. So they arrest him, and they give him six months or six years of hard labor in a prison so you can write his book. Right well that's good news. That's kind of like an advance almost

05:01 Yeah, it's just a free room and board. It's better than most advances I think so he gets the pound rocks with a sledgehammer now the end of the other two guys were both missionaries I don't know what to do is put these Christian missionaries But they want to get left a Bible someplace or someone would pick you up That was kind of stuff if you're good at you going to visit that look around you're not there to change Anything all these people are spies. That's how that's why they lock them up Yeah, it makes no sense that anyone in their right mind does these things. No, it's crazy really so but I didn't know that this was still kind of on your radar for going to want to visit North Korea? I'm sure we can make this happen if yeah well I mean We've been saying that for years

05:46 You know, Don's gonna go back again soon. Oh maybe I can go with him as his entourage! I'm a good guy...I could do that. I can carry the briefcase, I carry the notebook and i can say yes sir when he asks for anything yeah and I'm distinguished you That's true but I only agree with that part. You look distinguished just keep your mouth closed. If I can do that I can say yes sir, no sir. Yes here's the papers you asked for...sir No problem! He is senior by a good number of years so it makes some sense. I already kind of tried to get us on the next junket Yeah didn't go over too well When Don just ignores the question altogether You know your way off base

06:37 Yeah, yeah be kind of cool. You know North Korea you know could do a show from there To a show From North Korea how cool that'd be That would be pretty cool We can do it we could do it well We have to probably do is outside a lot through one of the government buildings that actually has internet access Yeah, and did you see I know you reference it in the newsletter? You saw the the president's Podcast Yes, and it's exactly the same as his speech a few nights earlier which I have a picture of him with that military garb or ersatz garb. Which I just looked at and couldn't resist. And then is the same as almost identical to what he told Chuck Todd on Meet The Press. Right, same speech right?

07:31 Well, I couldn't get past the first four seconds. Well it was the same exact bullcrap but then some weirdo comes on at the end because they do balance on C-Span when they show that... They have a designated hitter by American League that comes on actually the Republican Party and this guy is some dork He comes on, I have a clip of him and he's the way it comes right on his name. It's got some name on there. Toby? No that's not Tobin. I think it is Tobin. Randy Tobin? No! That's... Isn't he an author?! Well, what's on there that I have to go get that clip list? Let me set it up. Wait you don't have your clip list with you? It's over on the printer. Well why don't you go over on the printer and I'll play the piece that I couldn't get past when the president started by saying... As commander in chief my highest priority is the security of the American people Now, you know, I'm always wondering what his highest priority is so I went back to a couple other of our podcasts from the president Hi everybody

08:30 Our top priority as a nation and my top priority as president must be doing everything we can to reignite the engine of America's growth. Okay, that's a little different than...a little different than that what he just said. As President, my top priority is simple To do everything in my power to fight for middle class families and give every American tools they need to reach the middle- So I'm very confused when he does this. As Commander in Chief My highest priority is the security of the American people However, I'm gonna give him A little bit of leeway because he does say as commander-in-chief and not as president. And I decided to look up what the responsibilities are, of the President as the Commander in Chief and there's an extrapolation which i thought was pretty good it's what they teach kids in school about the roles and responsibilities of the President really seven chief of state

09:17 And this is from scholastic.com, which I thought was good This is what our kids learned about the actual role and responsibility of the President of United States So as Chief of State he has responsibilities include awarding medals to the winners of college scholarships congratulating astronauts on their journey into space greeting visitors to The White House and making a patriotic speech on the 4th of July What? That's on the list. Yeah, well this is just let's go to chief executive some examples of responsibilities now this would be what he's referring to here as the oh no commander in chief has four in those so a chief executive appointing someone to serve as head of the CIA holding a cabinet meeting to discuss government business reading reports about problems of the federal Bureau of Investigation that's interesting

10:09 Chief diplomat, examples of responsibilities. Traveling to London to meet with British leaders." Says that on there? Yes! This is really good. Entertaining Japanese diplomats in the White House... With geishas. Writing a message or letter to leaders of the Soviet Union but here comes commander-in-chief. Examples of responsibilities include inspecting a Navy yard deciding in wartime whether to bomb foreign cities or calling out troops to stop a riot. I don't know, maybe he learned his role and responsibilities from Scholastic.com. What it sounds like. Disturbing that this is what

10:54 What is Boyle? I'm not sure this guy's name is Randy Tobin, but whatever it is that's what I put on this clip. Okay So he comes on after the president as the cleanup hitter and he supposed to do...I don't know what he was supposed to do because it was the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life He's wearing a cowboy hat big giant 1970s hipsters glasses behind a green screen. It's like a clown and he's not even in office, he is the head of Arizona Senate or something. I'm Andy Tobin, I serve as Speaker for the Arizona House and I am Republican candidate for Arizona's first congressional district. Before i begin

11:31 We've had terrible flooding in our state this week. It sounds like he's on an old 78 record. Guys, there is terrible flooding and water has gotten into the coax. Several Arizonans have lost their lives. Our hearts go out to their families and I want to thank our first responders. Their service inspires us always. Yeah it does! I'm running for Congress for a simple reason. What? Our state is under attack from the federal government Day after day, the powers that be in Washington DC try to bury us in more regulation and more havoc. This has got to stop! Not just here but everywhere... Do we have to listen all of this? No! Thank you It's a mess. How powerful can that be?! It is one big hot mess of nothing. Nothing is any good You know what I realized today even though he didn't promote the idea it was 9-14-14

12:24 Big opportunity we missed there big up big up I think I think when you get into the caliphate to just to start it off just to get this out of The way because of course, you know more annoyances on our radar We will follow them We have the best producers in the universe. Is it IS-IS or IS-IL? Well, to start it off I'd like to play a clip that one of our producers noticed on the previous episode of your No Agenda Show as we often point out it is very...it's nay! It is impossible. Nay

13:05 Yeah, isn't that old English? N-A-H. Nay or N-Y... No no it's N-E I think isn't it? N-A-Y maybe? Nay? No I think its N-E In Dutch is also just nay It is impossible for the brain to continuously trick the body Or the other way around when the truth really needs to come out People will just say the truth They'll blurt it out And it is flabbergasting every single time we catch it! I didn't catch this one Peter O'Rourke caught this. This is Jay Carney as he was being introduced as the new spokesholder, shill on CNN and listen to what he says about the threat that is ISIS-ISIL IS. To answer your specific question yes I could envision it because I left in late June and the threat posed by ISIS was already apparent. Did you hear?

14:05 Prosed prosed that would mean the threat written the threat grows prosed made up Yeah, maybe I'm how do you come on? Can I go for it all is because it's such a usage that I've never heard him do before and But I think he said pros. There's no doubt about that. I think he meant to say posed No That's what he meant to say pose but then the rose comes out That's well put as you play it again And let's see if there's an R in the context that would make him just make a mistake by having a scrambled brain.

15:02 Proposed? Proposed. It was a proposal. Proposed, proposed! Could be proposed. So he was thinking... this is my thinking on this if I'm going to deconstruct it. He was thinking proposed and then he said pros'd which makes more sense to me because you have the word in your brain proposed right and then posed. Now if we play it back one third time, can we listen to it and then when he says prose think propose? Let's try To answer your specific question yes I could envision it because I left in late June and the threat proposed by ISIS was already apparent they had already moved dramatically across into Iraq A threat and propose is almost kind of the same thing I think that threat proposed Could be Here's what were going to do Okay you can do that

15:52 I don't know. But yeah, there's something there he definitely had a different word in his brain but i don't think he meant to use the word pro. No, I'm sure didn't mean to use it no no but that's a word that is what he was...I don't think that came about him blurting out pros as though it was written or proposed. I thought it was an interesting catch regardless It was a good catch we should have caught ourselves on Now Josh Earnest who took over for Carney He's a pencil. I mean the guy is no more, he's just a pencil with an eraser head on it This guy is dumb and he's trying to be...He is almost the...it is life imitating art Did you ever watch The Veep?

16:33 Yeah, I've watched it a couple times. So at the end she becomes president... Spoiler alert! And then her press secretary is doing exactly what Josh Earnest is doing here making jokes with the press corps that fall completely flat and I found just like wow this is this is just like TV What does victory look like here? I mean, you've talked about destroying ISIL. Honestly don't know what that means? What does it mean? I didn't bring my Webster's dictionary with me up here. Everyone is like why you dick! Just answer the question! I think it's a pretty illustrative phrase to use to describe the situation we envision We have talked about the threat that ISIL poses in context of foreign fighters

17:25 We've talked about the threat that ISIL poses in the context of gaining the kind of safe haven that would allow them to plot and carry out conspiracies, that could lead to catastrophic attacks on the West or even on the American homeland. Is anyone sitting there really believing this? Or does this just flow over them like diarrhea they've smelt before and don't care to listen to it? I do not understand how people can stand up say what are you talking about?! That, those are the two principal threats that we are concerned about as it relates directly to American national security. There are other interests that we have here. There's clearly the ISIL forces wreaking havoc in this already volatile region of the world

18:14 wreaking havoc in this already volatile region of the world. It's a bunch of vacant deserts Thank you! Sand is not in our best interest We're wreaking havoc, take that sand! You see these lines of these trucks going down middle-of nowhere? There's not even a sagebrush in that area Hey sand, look I've got you sand Yeah, wreaking havoc. We have therefore an interest in acting with the international community to try to stabilize the situation we can do that in a way that doesn't require the introduction of American ground combat troops to Iraq Now I'm glad he did this because at this point it is no longer acceptable as a journalistic phrase to say boots on the ground I'm sorry journalists

19:09 You need to now start quantifying what that means. Aren't you tired of this, John? This boots on the ground, boots on the ground... Well it's not going to help because Buck McKeon who was the head of armed services he's the promoting. He's from California, I'd love to find out what...I could look him up and find out what district he is in." I think you could take this guy out of...you can get him voted out because he just wants to spend more of our money. Boots on the ground is his theme. Here's a clip of boots on the ground that you can play and he's gonna keep with this phrase. That's how we pull these nations together

20:01 Now look, this is no light lift. But the man who held together the most difficult alliance in history Dwight D Eisenhower had it right when he said only strength can cooperate weakness can only beg Though many allies have strong doubts about the Obama administration's willpower America still carries weight in the Middle East I do believe that we can bring Sunnis and Shias and Kurds, and even Turks together. To make that happen the president needs a team of diplomats... ...and soldiers on the ground ushering every player towards the same purpose not just this week but on a sustained basis." You know there was another side to this boringness and that was Harry Reid

20:56 It was probably going on at the exact same time that this guy was speaking. Harry Reid was announcing the bonanza that everyone has been waiting for of, of the increased spending. The proposal that the president has given to the American people requires immediate congressional action in granting the administration authority to equip and train Syrian rebels under Title 10 to fight ISIS. Now did you hear about that title ten? Have you ever heard about this? The difference between title ten and title fifty No, not specifically. Yeah so this is the general powers and functions title US Code Title 10 then when it's Title 50 then it's pretty much CIA only what the money is for appropriated for when its us code Title 10 it is general funds

21:46 which can include undisclosed amounts to the CIA. So it's a very specific kind of funding, that's why it's mentioned as Title X, which of course is not questioned by anybody God forbid. No. Support for training under Title 10? To train and equip rebels? Rebels! Equip some rebels. Equip them rebels We are going to give money to rebels, formerly known as terrorists. This is great! Critical to building this international coalition that is so necessary I expect this proposal to pass Congress before the end of next week. Our colleagues in the House are currently discussing exactly how they're going to proceed. Oh yeah? I expect this proposal to pass Congress with broad bipartisan support." Well, I have no doubt it's going to pass with broad bipartisan support because that is the history of our country and...I didn't put this clip together but this is a clip of four different presidents let's put it that way

22:47 When it comes to Iraq, and it's just sad It is just sad that we're still here doing this. Just two hours ago Allied Air Forces began an attack on military targets in Iraq and Kuwait These attacks continue as I speak ground forces are not engaged This conflict started August 2nd when the dictator of Iraq invaded a small and helpless neighbor That is why on the unanimous recommendation of my national security team including the vice president, secretary of defense, chairman of joint chiefs of staff, secretary state and national security advisor. I have ordered a strong sustained series of air strikes against Iraq. My fellow citizens at this hour... At what point do we look at our history and say hmmm

23:44 This seems to be something we're doing a lot of. What is the point? We're talking about a span, if we take it to the end of Obama's administration...of what 28 years split? Yes! Of just going and bombing and blowing money on Iraq I've got bumps that there's an entry over-I'm gonna go film this thing This is an entry to US 80 that will break your axle on any car if you're not careful And it's like a wreck, and they're meanwhile spending money on this stupid war. I was at the dinner table last night with Buzzkill Jr., who was reading something and he is going to send me some documentation that I might be able to document this. He says that the real analysts of ISIL or ISIS whatever you want to call it

24:34 It's a it's structured after anonymous. It's headless structure, there is no leadership and what you can do if you were in Iraq is Just buy one of those dead black flags. Get yourself a flag in Toyota, some white gym shoes and you're good to go! Yeah because that black flag people have to realize is not an ISIS-ISIL flag it is a generic Islam flag It's been around for a long time You can look it up They got...you can buy that flag So you buy that flag form a little group drive around shoot people do whatever you want doesn't make any difference but from the sounds of it makes it impossible

25:13 to ever... It's an undefeatable situation, which is perfect if you just want to waste American money. Now, well it's not... now you can call it waste or you can call it stimulating the economy? It's not though! If it was stimulating the economy I'd be all in. It depends on what business you own. If you're in the Raytheon business, it's stimulating your economy. Like a CEO salary but still not really doing any much good. So the idea now is that we're going to be funding the war machine and we're going to do that with a coalition. And this is a little problematic because not everybody really wants in or they want kind of in, but Germany and Turkey said well you know um... We'll let ya in the door! You know? We can talk about that so our boy there at State Department Matt Lee

26:08 got into Marie's face about this and... And she got huffy. And this of course is yet another episode from the continuing saga, Of That Odd Married Couple! The Matt & Marie Show! Well Matt and Marie They're talking sensibly They're sitting in a tree S-S-I-N-G It's the Matt and Marie Show! Starring... Matt Lee. Also starring... Marie Harp

26:53 I don't know if we should play the clip even after that. So, we've already seen countries come out and say this. We sent out a 40-page document last night outlining commitments and contributions countries were going to or are already making so i'm not sure there's confusion about the fact that many countries want to contribute what the process we're going through now is deliberate prudent process, talking to every country. What role can you play? What role can you play? What are we all going to do together that process will be ongoing But I would strongly reject the notion that for any reason, that you mentioned that this is a flailing effort. Every day more countries sign up. Today more countries committed more through this communique. What is it that the Saudis have agreed to do in terms of these training bases? Well, and again, I can let the Saudis speak for themselves. The Saudis apparently don't want to speak to us so that's the problem

27:45 And I think, you know, you have the Germans saying they're not going to participate militarily. You have the Turks saying that. You have the British foreign secretary clearly uninformed about his own government's position on this. Why do you always focus on what people say they won't do instead of the plethora things they've said they will do? Oh God! Is that the best she can do?! Why do you do that Matt!? Why is that what you thought? I'm actually, that's actually not an unfair question. That's not an unfair question! I want to know! You tell me this or will get out of this house right now?! When we focus on our effort here in terms of the Saudis they have... We're in discussions with them about the specific

28:21 program that the president asked for funding for. They have agreed to help with part of it, obviously we can get more details out later as those are hashed out. So it's not fully cooked yet? The discussions are ongoing the secretary is on the ground in Jeddah and his meeting with the king of Saudi Arabia this evening so let's wait until I know there's a desire for everything to happen in real time but let's wait and see how those meetings go but they have agreed to play a role here in some way. Everything does happen in real time I think he said honey even after that Everything does happen in real time, honey. You know what? I meant You're not in a position now to say exactly what it is that the Saudi contribution will be as regards Control your woman Matt

29:16 I love their show. Always a comedy activist! Yeah, I'm telling you they better be having sex because they deserve each other Can you imagine? Yes of course i can imagine yeah You could. No, I can totally see those yeah absolutely so what is also not being controlled The closest to sex they're ever gonna have is that jingle Marie has something interesting. She's got some mean librarian sex appeal to her. Oh yeah, she looks like she might be fun. And I think Matt... If you could just shut her up! Hey hey! And Matt looks like a lot of women go for that

30:00 Older worthy new swarthy news hound kind of guy yeah I can see all that's missing is a cap with the press thing sticking in it. Yeah, maybe maybe Fedora of some sort so what they're not able to do is Control Foley's mother and this cannot be Something went wrong and all of us we had the kids being there in that studio with its the set falling apart stuff falling off the wall. I want to say something here is Foley's mother actually said a bunch of things that indicates to me that she wasn't read in and...I agree She's kind of screwing up the scenario because if this was a CIA operation and he was an agent, and he was just being extracted it would explain what she's bitching about in this clip, I believe

30:53 It indicates to me that there's something, there was another scenario being played out that she wasn't part of and her complaints actually indicate to me that this was a scenario. I think I agree with you. Did you have a clip or shall I play this one? The clip you have go. In her new interview with CNN James Foley's mother says she was threatened by government officials that she would be prosecuted if she raised money to free her kidnapped son We were told we could not raise ransom that it was illegal, we might be prosecuted. Today Secretary of State John Kerry says he's unaware of any officials suggesting criminal charges I am totally unaware and would not condone anybody that i know within state making such a statement so I don't know about it but I would not condone anybody that I know of please skirt around in some more Kerry you got

31:47 caught off guard with this. The fact that the United States does not, like all the other countries... Negotiate. They do not negotiate and pay ransoms as opposed to France and Great Britain All these other countries actually pay the ransom It becomes very profitable business for terrorists We don't pay their ransom And then the kicker of that clip was And we, but if you want to pay a ransom it's expected that the parents or the company or somebody else will pay the ransom. So it was in the cards for her to collect money to pay the ransom but they told her not too because it would be screwing up the scenario indicating me that whole thing was rigged and phony. Well they're also now coming... Why didn't they get bring her into this? I mean this is a botch! Yes yes and its the same thing with

32:48 the Sean Smith, the agent in Benghazi whose mom was promised by Hillary and Obama. And she was talking about how cold these people were and all they did show up for when his body came back. You remember that? Yeah, she was complaining that you know they also said nice...they were nice and then they were just...that was...for the camera they were nice So here's what bothers me about this both of these mothers are obviously emotionally distraught but are being ignored if not shunned by the feminists

33:28 Where is all the moms against guns and women, war on women? Where are they all rallying behind these mothers just because they come across a bit confused or portrayed as confused. They are dismissed! No one is coming to their defense no one's coming to their aid...no one! There's not a single woman anywhere saying hold on a second These mothers are trying to say something and they're being brushed away as morons Yeah, no there's nothing like that going on. Now let's get back to this coalition which is now in the past 10 hours... Is it a coalition of the willing? Well there's not a lot of willing that's the problem and Watermelon Head Kerry John F. Kerry is now in Egypt attempting to get the Egyptians on board and Al-Sisi

34:23 has said, okay but this has to be a coalition that goes after terror everywhere. And this is new and now the positioning is we're not just going after ISIS, this coalition... We're going after terror everywhere which could be right here in Austin for all I know. No no it isn't Austin He came to Cairo hoping to regain the confidence of Egyptians after the severe oppression of former president Mohamed Morsi's supporters. Egypt has a critical role to play in publicly renouncing the ideology that ISIL disseminates. He said, the coalition will leave no stone unturned in their quest to overthrow the Islamic State group It will be our goal and every meeting that we have on an international basis together working to degrade

35:13 and ultimately to defeat ISIL wherever it exists. And I find it very disturbing still that a lot of people still say ISIS, even though the president was very consistent with ISIL, So you can go defeat ISIS, but that's not the same as what the president is doing. Here's a question for ya and I probably noticed this before but never brought it up... Why? Because they don't use this term anywhere else, I've never heard it before What is the point of using the term degrade? This is a new term Yes well this comes back to the are we at war and for obvious legal reasons and political reason

35:57 the president refuses to say we are at war, this is now degrade and destroy. You see it's a subtle difference? This is about counter-terrorism! This is not about a war which is all about who has the authority so if we call it a war then we have to be you know... then we really have to go to Congress We really don't want Con..., we just want Congress to just sign the checks Don't..., we don't need your approval Just signed the checks That's the only reason. I don't see any other reason for skirting around the word war. As for the idea of going after terrorists everywhere, so i'm watching this another presentation on C-SPAN of some sort...I have a note on this guy but anyway this character is

36:41 speaking about, oh this is the guy that's heads up or the deputy head of the National Counterterrorism Center giving testimony before Congress. And I want to play this, this is a new term to use and tell me if you can spot the new term? Let me also say a few quick words about homegrown violent extremists The boundless online virtual environment we see today, combined with terrorists increasingly sophisticated use of social media makes it increasingly difficult for us to protect our youth from messaging that is designed to radicalize and motivate to action homegrown violent extremists.

37:19 We at NCTC are working very closely with our partners at DHS, FBI and the Department of Justice to inform and equip families communities local governments and local institutions all of whom provide the best defense and have the greatest ability to counter the narrative a violent extremism in their communities. Despite our efforts however HVEs remained the most likely immediate threat to the homeland individual action by individual HVEs We expect that the overall level of HVE activity to remain about the same as what we've seen in recent years over the course of the next year. And by that I mean, we would expect to see a handful of uncoordinated and mostly unsophisticated plots emanating from a pool of HVEs that amounts up to a few hundred individuals Last year's Boston bombing certainly underscored the threat from HVEs who are motivated often with little or no warning To act violently by themselves or in small groups

38:13 Now, was he saying H-V-E or H-A-E? H-V-E. High value equipment? No no, try again. Home vegetated extremists? Homegrown violent extremists! I was close He says if you listen to the very beginning, he says it three times homegrown. I got thrown off by the V and then he says HVE. Then he goes these transitions at the HVE and it makes it sound like a truck or yeah, machine gun on the back grown violent extremes now this is very good What are we gonna do with these HVEs? I'm asking you, Adam. What are we gonna do with these HVEs? There's a bunch of HVEs marching today. Now let's see... There's a bunch of HVEs coming down there. It just sounds like militarizing- it's a military style term. There is a reason for this. Yes! There is a reason for this. This is probably the same reason that they showed Obama and if anyone got the newsletter then should have looked at this photo

39:12 And you look at this thing, it's a ridiculous picture that makes him look like an army general rather than the president. And it wasn't by coincidence and the fact that most of time he could stay in that position... Somebody sent me another photo taken apparently at the press conference It was a different angle. I think that was shot by the press photographer, the White House press photographer who's lower and it is actually even creepier the photo but with the one i had that was shown in the newsletter that people should open and check out uh...I thought was very..it was not a coincidence it was done on purpose and I thought it was creepy. I'm seeing now this term appears to have been recently evoked

39:59 Invoked, I guess evoked. Invoked by Holder which makes total sense which means there is a legal reasoning behind this use and i see FBI.gov publishing in February of 2013 the term homegrown violent extremism okay well we have to keep our eye on this that's a good catch John that's a very good catch okay then I get to do a good catch This unfortunately won't work too well for you through the skype line But this is a small piece of audio from the most recent beheading video. And this is, did you see this third video? No I didn't get to run and go over to look at it was it the same guy? Was it Jihad John? Yes, the same guy he's still holding a knife in his left hand and they do now there's a different background they've used so now somehow there's a big hill of sand behind them and then nothing but blue sky

41:02 So just a different shot from the on the yeah, that's kind of what it then you know There was their wind blowing on him little bit of wind blowing but no sand kicking up and of course We had the end there. That's the reason we had David Haynes Do his little read his little script completely calm And with the mic dressed nicely, again the lav wire underneath the orange shirt. And then of course when Jihad Johnny whatever his name is it's his turn to deliver his lines they stop tape switch microphone and they take it off of David Haynes. Because, you know, they only have one good mic. It's a cheap operation that got one good mic. Hey we've got the Sennheiser! And this Radio Shack mic isn't working... And they're out of business I can't get a new one now i have some biographical information on David Haynes I want to discuss in a moment but

41:57 They made a mistake in this video. And of course we have the original, which was once again discovered by that fabulous outfit site SITE who are the only ones who seem to be able to discover these videos in The Weeknd no less! Oh jeez! Yeah they're really good. They are just so... and of course they only charge two and half thousand dollars a month for the translations they do for intelligence organizations but they're the ones that keep coming up with something I'm so impressed the work they're doing. And so this is the same script, then he grabs the guy right hand on his chin and starts sawing his throat with the left hand we see no blood we see nothing squirting but we do hear sound

42:45 Now, if you... You know the little knife he's using there John. Yeah so it's actually a sharpie pen but he pretends it's a knife What kind of sound would that make in the first three seconds? If you sawing into someone's neck with no blood Uh.. if we just saw flesh which is I think what he begins with It wouldn't make any noise That's interesting Because there's noise. It makes noise on this tape, I'm going to play it very loudly see if you can hear it Could you hear that? could you hear it? No So first you hear the wind blowing then you hear Yeah, I heard the wind blowing. No I didn't hear it. Well they've added... well it's Skype. They're sweetened is what you're telling us Yes! They've added in the sound of a knife cutting on stone or something Huh This isn't mistake people

43:36 This is now, does anyone look at this? Does anyone listen to this? No. Nobody gives a crap. Cutting the knife on the guy's neck is not going to make this sound they sweetened it up with that Sure! The little post They got a bigger budget for this last one Okay Let's look at- They got a new green screen, they got a new background, they get some post money They probably have a copy of Final Cut Pro Yeah And in this case, it's Final Cut Hello It's a Final Cut sound effect Yeah, anyway go on. Now of course no one is really talking about David Haynes other than that he's British and he was an aid worker just helping out poor Muslims Right! That is the meme He said a good guy Has anyone... He's helping the Muslims you bastards has anyone looked any deeper into what he was doing or does this we just let it go? Nobody has bothered

44:27 According to the BBC, in April 2011 Mr. Haynes joined the charity Handicap International and became the head of its mission in war-torn Libya according to the Handicapped International website. The Handicapped International Federation operated a $141 million budget to implement and manage 315 programs in 59 countries The institutional partners and foundations that helped to fuel our budget included the United States Agency for International Development, USAID. The United States Department of State." So that is pretty much a CIA operation. The BBC further says after leaving Handicap International Haynes worked for Nonviolent Peace Force quote an organization seeking to facilitate peace initiatives in dangerous environments

45:18 Well, who funds non-violent peace force? Well let's see. We have grants from government agencies and other NGOs from Belgium the European Commission UNICEF UNDP Australia Norway and of course the United States Agency for International Development And then most recently Haines worked for ACTED A C T E D This is a French aid agency No, wait a minute. He was working for French aid agency then it was ten days before he got kidnapped that he worked at... they've worked for Acted. Acted ACTED's mission or vocation as they say is to support vulnerable populations affected by wars natural disasters and or economic and social crises And do accompany them in building a better future thus contributing to the Millennium Development Goals I don't have to tell you who this is funded by do I?

46:14 Not really. United Nations Population Fund, Asian Development Bank, World Bank... Open Society? Come on people! Can't you just get like- People who aren't connected to anything?! No of course not this is their job this is like um It's so obvious This Why would you do anything other these guys are already making a salary and now this is part of their job So they go do this. Yeah, and they don't have to there's no bonuses involved You're not the pay any extra money or I think about it The guy is probably going oh This is so good. I can change my face change My name don't have to go back to my annoying family There could be an element of that with a couple of these guys Unless you have anything else I just one final clip which to me Is that is the kicker of all of this? And really

47:05 Really takes it down home to where we're at if you must you got anything else cuz I'm kind of looking while you do this Did you find one thing? No, no. What are you gonna? Do though? You just gonna finish it up limb will that they do have a cup one thing now? I just want to do yeah, please um Well actually this can be done in a different way But I do have this know let's that I'll do these differently you can I could finish them this morning Dan Rather, and I'm not... maybe it was some other news guy. I didn't recognize him but Dan Rather of course was on CNN talking about that now Dan Rather is and i like the way he phrases everything you know he's like ambiguous you know he understands exactly what's going on and what's cool about rather is he says it but doesn't really say I'm onto you A-holes like we do

47:57 But he kind of says it and pushes it out there, and then it gets a little maligned. It was very interesting to listen to his take on this ISIL. Where do you come down on this? Well, it depends on the hour or the day...it's a difficult call but I think we have to see clearly This by the way is the best performative I've ever heard! Depends on the hour of the day. We have to see clearly, go ahead Dan say what you mean. This is the first social media war and when in Vietnam War was the first television war this is the first social media war that ISIS has proved to be very adept very talented if you will you always hope that evil won't beat

48:34 They're very talented at tweeting and Facebooking, John. Very talented. I think he's wrong because these social media wars began with the...well Hillary was she's the one who initiated all this stuff with her group of tech experts. Right. And internet in a box and all the rest of it so i think he's right on one hand but not that its the first this is just the culmination Oh! I think what he..the point he's making is that the way it's being played now on news as social media is fact and truth, and here's a YouTube video. I think that's what he means. Yeah well you might mean that but that specific accusation we've been doing for over two years.

49:37 Three beheadings and by the way, I say in my own mind. Are we certain that they've actually beheaded these people? Oh, I love it. I love rather Thank you Dan not idiot No But this is why I like what he's saying slipping that in no one said what what you question Authority citizen What's wrong with you but assuming they have The three beheadings are enough to move American public opinion, change our foreign policy and take this nation to war. That's a point that Farid Zakaria made in our last hour saying nothing has changed about Isaacs except these videos This is to me the most troublesome part of this first all we should note that nobody has shown the most graphic Of pictures right nobody except the most fringe part of the even some websites They usually show this stuff and said they're not gonna show it But now this is this is I love this part of the conversation. This guy is saying oh, no one has shown The really gory parts know there are none There are no gory parts

50:35 Except for the Photoshop head at the end, which is not even video. It's just it's a photoshop And then this jabroni or whatever his name is from CNN They say oh Even some of the websites that normally show all the horrible things saying we're not gonna show it and I'm just sitting here Saying to myself Wow Look how little effort it takes. So little effort, it's the same day... It's a one-day shoot you get your four guys and maybe they have ten I don't know and they do a promo after each one like hey grab this guy by the head we'll do a promo for the next time its the same template, it's the same Final Cut Pro template they're using every time This is..it takes so little to push to mmmm for the establishment

51:21 Take this and run. But the most important thing is if you're asking the intelligence agencies or experts how big a threat to the United States is ISIS, there's a lot of debate can they have power beyond where they've established a physical presence? The pictures seem to tell us something different. It's what I would call emotional knowledge." Where could Dan Rather take this? When you talk about propaganda, if you talk about it... I don't know but I was saying maybe he could take it by saying this sounds like a crock of crap! Well wait for it. Look they gruesomely killed two Americans and a Briton. Gruesomely?! And I think what happens is there's a tendency that well if they- I think this guy was put into counterbalance whatever Dan Rather was going to say that's not what I'm realizing

52:00 Like, oh man, Rather's gonna say the truth. You know what I mean? Shut him up! Can do that then they can sneak across the Mexican border and spread Ebola virus which should at least one public official... What?! Yeah, so Dan Rather is sitting there telling the truth saying, I don't even know if we beheaded this is real beheadings This guy is saying they could come across the Mexican border and blow up a dirty Ebola bomb So you this is the two sides This is a beautiful piece And it tends to force our policy makers Who is this guy? I couldn't get a name. Yeah, we'll find out who this guy was he is the worst He's a total shill And he shouldn't even be on television CNN should be ashamed wait Wait until the rather comes back in it gets funnier into taking decisions that they might not take

52:47 absent the emotional punch of those pictures. They tend to maybe say more than what reality lets them say." And where the media, and I include myself in this criticism... Well we're short- We don't talk about context background history. We just push the pictures forward and having said to you before I'm ambivalent about it, I generally want to err on side listen my job is to put the information out there. He's saying we're just showing pictures he's saying this is bullcrap others decide but Your conscience when you say lecture of news conscience be your guide says, you know This is really helping other guys But we have to understand that the shock of the headings will begin to fade a little bit as time goes along and ice As smart as they are and they're very smart with us like videos I would argue that there They're in the same league in this social media war context as Hitler was in the 1930s And their use of propaganda. Yeah

53:45 Hitler card good one Dan. Good one! If they'll go to something else, something else for shock value when the shock of the beheadings begins to fade off Yeah what can they do? Want to put something in the red book? Well you know again this all sounds like Hillary not her specifically but Hillary's old operation which was at this... he's talking about that there in like in a big leagues uh-huh and yeah This sounds to me like us The only people that are in the big leagues with social networking is us. Not some boneheads, some boneheads ISIS. This is bullcrap! How did they get adept?

54:27 This is very skilled well because we trained them. Yeah, it's Hillary's it's Hillary's techno experts It's our consultants its this is this is the largest psychological operation performed in modern-day history against American public against the population of the world John that world you're right here to be thinking about that So are we at the point then where we shouldn't be broadcasting? This is, it gets better. Yes! We are at the point where we shouldn't be broadcasting hello Still images from these videos Even still image videos I don't see how you can put that genie back in the bottle And it's a genie alright Um... You know Back in the

55:08 to the end of the 19th century, William Marcy Tweed or Rand Tammany Hall was said to have said about Thomas Ness cartoons stop the damn pictures. I don't care what people write because my constituents can't read but those damn pictures they understand and we can see much of our history civil war Vietnam... All right Dan wrap it up with some more Hitler talk Images have had an enormous influence what i think is useful or think would be necessary is to find some kind Let's call it social media literacy. Ah, maybe we need some filters or legislation! We are able to put these pictures side by side with other arguments and my big concern is... I saw this in the Iran hostage crisis we see it over and over again the visceral images overwhelm the rational abstract analysis. Go Dave Well were going to say something I think it was a quote from Hitler himself if not from one of Tony Stanton's... Hitler? Let me just quote from Hitler hold on one second

56:01 Those who control the images Control the race this was in the context of 1930s. Yeah, Isis understands that those that control the images on social media Will will control public opinion about this? That's right baby Hitler Hitler Hitler, but I don't understand but I thought Putin was Hitler Who's going to be Hitler now? I mean, is it ISIS and I saw Susan. We got a Hitler problem. Susan Rice. I saw her whole whatever she was talking about was uninteresting but she talks about ISIL or ISIL. I think she said ISIL that's what she said. She doesn't say ISIL. She hasn't been in meetings. Yeah but... Shes been kicked out of the place. But instead of ISIL its EYES-le

56:52 IZL. And the Pope is in on this, somehow he's involved... This is a big big set up! What are you doing? I'm pounding a drum. Why? It's time to pound the drum for IZL Anyway, so we will have you know it doesn't do any good I mean he did they got rather out of the business or they set him up years ago Yeah He's also a nuisance But he you know they set him up at CBS with that that funny letter That he because he didn't have any computer savvies. You know you didn't realize that you couldn't do that little TH right

57:32 It was just very simple. And everyone got into a big debate about it, I remember that period because I had done a fake letter that I sent out there myself. Explain what fake letter you're talking about? Yeah well what happened was during when Ryder was the anchor at CBS uh... and george bush was i think still in the a still president and he had there was a letter that came out talking about george being a crappy airmen and it was just a decade is his record is ready to be back there was no good confines they use you system as a screw up answer this letter came out and then cbs got ahold of it and they ran with it now all the media around with it

58:14 the liberal media all ran with it. And then somebody pointed out that on the dateline, and this letter was dated in the 40s I believe... In the date line there was a uh it was like September 17th with a th as you know not September 1 7th but that little bitty th shows up above the 7th, so 17. So that typography was not possible and uh... That type art was not possible because that was an element of Microsoft Word. So they used a type font that was a Typewriter type font but they had this little TH thing in everyone I myself included said this is bullcrap! And in fact I even had it still have it

58:58 The only typewriter that might do that would be a Selectric or an IBM Executive, which was the really... But that also was much later. That was 70's wasn't it? Yes and neither one of those could do it right so it wasn't doable And then it became a big scandal and rather ended up getting fired over the whole thing It was funny to me because I had my liberal friends who hate George Bush haters. They were defending this right to the... well it's possible! No, it's not possible that this thing exists. It was the most amazing era of denialism. That's interesting. You could get this letter and say it was a fraud

59:36 Anyway, so Rather got kicked out and then he started his own thing because Mark Cuban liked him. And so they put him on Mark Cuban's HD net and he did a very good investigative reporting show for years it was outrageously good most of the stuff lot of the stuff to develop years later including this stuff about the cartels in Mexico were done by Rather two years earlier So I do agree that there has to be a step up and...I'm going to say it one more time. And it's clear that no one who is running anything listens or maybe they don't have money to go back and shoot again, you guys if you want to ratchet it up, ya gotta kill a gay guy! It doesn't matter anything else will not...like some openly gay...can we kill RuPaul? Behead RuPaul?! And then you'll see outrage

1:00:35 That's what that's what's needed. Yeah, no I know your theory is and i think it's correct but I think there's an overt reason they're not doing it because I think they want to...I think this is a controlled experiment And I think they want to keep it so there's.. I think it has to be controlled. I think everything that we're witnessing is very controlled So it goes at a certain pace so it doesn't panic anybody you know? And that sort of thing Trying to initiate panic and an actual outrage. You know we need Twitter icons change the black I don't think that I don't think that's in the cards, I think this is a very controlled Slow-moving freight train so he could start spending these this kind of money on a situation That can't be corrected as a bottomless pit But it's slow bottomless pit We've tried all these other techniques and people get upset about it but you agree you agree we have to do something different It's just going to become annoying the media

1:01:30 We'll get tired of it. I think there'll be one more beheading yes Did they tease another guy and this last beheading? They usually teased a guy no, they didn't is going to be next they did not Okay, there might not be any more beheading wait or did that but I have the we've already gone through listen So that we should write these down by the way There's stages involved in here first there was the beheading of children we saw none of that by the way And then their own sticks heads on sticks head on sticks and then there was the I'm sorry, no. No they-I'm sorry, I stand corrected Alan Henning is the next guy and he appears in the teaser segment after the Photoshop picture And this is a particularly bad photoshop The head is so poorly shopped into the back These guys...

1:02:16 It's... We'll look at it one more or two more beheadings then. Whatever the case, but there has been this series that has been the kids, yeah nobody, okay well they got us so far then the thing that won them most mileage was convert or die and we bunked that because it wasn't... You can pay up! That is bull crap. You can pay up and we have all of that and eventually I think go into mainstream, and then they just had to pull that idea. And then they came up with these other ones just so... They had some videos of some at the very early days of the ISIL guys machine-gunning innocent victims driving around on them. Yeah, yeah, no one cares. That didn't go very far. That could be Blackwater guys and no one recognizes that as unique ISIS ISIL.

1:03:00 Right, and it did because they didn't have the black flag. They didn't have the branding. The branding wasn't down yet! And I like the branding because i think it does allow for a lot of... Me too! Because generic, just having yellow green blue just a solid color flag or some sort of a flag that you can get at the local store is great way to brand. I never thought of such an easy thing. It was genius that the branding was genius I think good yeah And, you know...so I don't know what would come after the beheading of these journalists. Well they're going to do this one more but i don't know who this guy is haven't looked into his background yet and there's this guy was not a journalist he was an agent for USAID. You know intelligence everything connected to USAID yeah there are good programs but

1:03:49 It's pretty typical for these things to contain. Well, it was the economic hitman book that really made it apparent what these guys were up to and we lost our USAID guy who was our economic hit man I think he still having sex with the Russian. That's why you can't... And as a part of this, I don't think I have a clip of this there are now two Let's see, Representative Gabbard and Collins are now pushing very hard for emergency suspension of the Visa Waiver Program. Now this is interesting! On the heels of the entire visa database being hosed and being backlogged for at least eight months now

1:04:44 to close the visa waiver program, which is the ESTA. That would really hurt our economy in so many ways because then people can't just hop on a plane and come on over to the US under the ESTA rules they would have to go to the highly militarized embassy or consul... The one in Amsterdam is nuts it looks like Fort Knox on the outside maybe you can't carry a cell phone into the building Yeah, I was in the one in Madrid during my lost passport episode and it was one of those places and you couldn't carry a cell phone or camera. You had to check it at the... No, you can't even check it there! Oh, you could check it here? You can't show up with it.

1:05:32 It's like, okay. How does that work? They had a bunch of these. It was like being in some, you know, some of these New York bookstores where they give you a ticket, a little shit and it's got a number on it and then they throw your stuff in a box and if you lose this thing I think you're toast. So what I am very curious to see what happens with the visa waiver program. Of course it won't help the polls anyway cause they don't, they're not allowed to be a part of the visa waiver program. Those guys are so pissed about that They should be. Yeah, of course! Anyway... Alright. What do you think? Well with that I'm-I think we're kind of done and just see what happens but this is psychological warfare they sure there's stuff happening but this my friends this is total bogativity and it's working It's a way to spend money And I'm pretty sure that most of these jabronis on television they probably haven't seen the videos either

1:06:31 No, no. Nobody's seen the videos. They just buy into it. It was like that 9-1-1 call from Sandy Hook. They were lame and dumb and we played them on the show. Nobody else would play them because they were too... Oh! That was horrible. No, they weren't horrible. They were just lame. It was a guy saying hey so what are you doing for lunch? It was ridiculous And this is the way the media operates now, apparently. They don't care because they let it give in a script what difference does it make? What do their job to get paid good salary and there's no other jobs fired you're not going to get another job so you just read the script and shut up I would like to know from our global intelligence network what local media is writing about

1:07:21 ISIS, ISIL and jihadists in the Islamic State. Here's an example from the Netherlands of course it's a short blurb but I speak it fluently and the headline is Dutch Jihadists In Top Level Of Islamic State Did you think he would have read about this somewhere else if this were true? But translating on-the-fly Dutch jihadist in Syria gotten through in Syria and Iraq to the highest levels of the terrorist organization IS, the Islamic State. Some even have direct contact with their high supreme leader Abdu Bakr al-Baghdadi! And a newspaper that wrote this, The Telegraph, of course has assembled a list of 136 Dutch polder jihadis and the Dutch Jihadi Abu Abida Al Maghribi actually has a leading role in running the Islamic State

1:08:24 incarceration center. And then we have Khalid K from Almere in the Netherlands and he's also in the highest levels of the Islamic State leadership, I guess. So i'm wondering if there are other...since it's all countries in Europe and we've got Brits and French everyone Germans everybody gonna come back and kill everybody and put your head on a stick? I'd like to know if your local media is also writing about how you're home town boys are also in high levels of the Islamic State. I have a feeling that might be! You know it's kind of like this thing you can localize

1:09:08 Yeah, it reminds me of years ago. This is a promotional idea that I haven't seen for decades when I was a little kid. I went with my parents to Carlsbad Caverns and there was a press agent at the at the Caverns, a beautiful place by the way. And she came around and she says where are you from? She asked a bunch of questions. Where are you from? What local newspapers are there? Then she would take your picture or family picture, little family outing and put it in your... She posed pointing at a stalactite or something. Then they would send the pictures with a letter who we were to all those local paper.

1:09:50 I always thought this was genius, by the way. This is something that I've always remembered and then so you get back in the little local paper which in this case was the Newark Argus, I believe had a picture of us in Carlsbad Caverns with photo credit to her and it said here they are, the lowly New Orkeans going through the caverns That's an old old school style of and very effective style of public relations and promotions promotional, right? And I think that these guys might be using those sorts of techniques if we start seeing in every local area Crap about you know certain Isis people that are we already have the first level. The first level is there from everywhere in the West

1:10:38 So now that's... We have a hundred from the United States, now you have your people from Holland and Netherlands. And then there are British who have a bunch of them I got knows how many? And I guess the French do so this is kind of promotional which makes me think that things are honeypot at some level You know, and everybody in our Congress... Oh this is terrible these people! But then at the same time if we're doing our job right it's a honeypot. Look John we have up until November We've got an election coming, we gotta keep people occupied afraid throw in some wife beating just to mess with their heads you know swish that stuff around. We need another.. We've had the slut squad with the naked selfies Times are good

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1:22:21 Kaiserslautern, Deutschland where we hang out with some of the troops for this portion of our life. My husband Stephen hit me in the mouth after several attempts last year during the Boston Marathon incident I haven't missed a show since he however has never donated! What?! So for his birthday September 14th i figured i would donate for him put him on the birthday list Is he on the birthday list? I don't think so what's his name It doesn't say. Steven? Steven, last name? Grief. I'm guessing. And how old is he? He is now 50... no 31. 31. 31? It's all in here. What day? Yeah, I don't have a copy of it so.. The 14th. No! I am going to read though. So you're just gonna be redundant if you ask me more questions

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1:26:10 A number of schools, when you get your ID it is your picture on a visa card. And the visa card is also what you use for any grants that you get or... It's your financial transaction mechanism with the school for everything you do but that is simultaneously your school ID Well, I don't see any email from Sean or Casey Kelly K-E-L-L-Y of late. So i don't know what their note was but that's kind of depressing by the way that idea of the

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1:29:54 Yeah, because you know I have the noise gate on and so then when you talk it's just really loud in the background. I can close it It's not that I was keeping it cool cuz I was trying to stay cool No, I understand. I understand and do you know? I don't have that chilly freezing weather at 6 o'clock Shut up! Come one everybody we need to go out there and do exactly what all these producers Do propagate the formula Our formula is this We go out...we hit people in the mouth Okay, close the window good. Yeah, it's much better much better um Mike picks up a lot yeah I could just tell that was open more than usual probably no I think I would just like to take these mics and go record the symphony or something they got a big is it very nice sound

1:31:07 Hey, I got a lot of emails and tweets and all kinds of stuff about naming our illness that we are discussing. Yeah, I got to the point where there's so many I stopped paying attention. Yeah me too but i did want to mention a few then I wanted to talk about some research I've done So this is of course the international health crisis The triad as we call it which has really exemplified And this little clip that I found, you know there was a solar flare an X1.6 that should have produced Borealis on the... Yeah it might have. I haven't seen any pictures they probably did but... Mimi was up there at the time and she says she didn't see anything

1:31:53 So this was obviously under-reported, then it was over reported and we all need to be very afraid of an EMP or any type of CME, coronal mass ejection because it could disrupt things here on Earth. Yeah! And this is a very disturbing piece As there's only one thing that the reporter is clearly interested in, and the men on the street interviews refer to this one issue. What could the worst thing be if we had a true electromagnetic pulse that knocked things off? Can I take couple of guesses? One just one.

1:32:41 Okay, we did not got the power grid and we wouldn't be able to get to Facebook. It pours out material which will reach us in a day or two and that material electrically charged can disrupt satellites and power grids if it strikes the earth in a way that hits areas that are vulnerable. Krupp says the concern is for airline communications GPS cell phones you might even see a disruption to Facebook Twitter Instagram Facebook's offline! When your Instagram and your Facebook account go out, find something to keep you occupied for a little while until it all comes back. You nailed it John and now the whole piece... It's pathetic by the way Yeah the whole piece yes listen the whole piece Not my Facebook! Not my Facebook! Reaction from those just learning about this? Wow

1:33:32 Wow, I'm waiting to see that actually. Then believe me they're not talking about anything other than Facebook being offline because of this. We used to live without cell phones How long does it last? Well the material that is traveling from the Sun It's essentially like a wave that washes over us. So you're talking about a portion of the day or few hours? I guess we'll get through it, it's only a few hours And thats the right attitude here is the good news it doesn't appear to be a direct hit just glancing blow and remember if happens at all they are saying it will just for couple of hours so we can deal with that and scientists say were gonna be just fine Wow! Only few hours without Facebook Clip clip clip of the day

1:34:15 Only a few hours without Facebook. I think we'll be able to handle it yes, we can do it That's right Facebook This yeah so this combination of and it really is more Facebook than Twitter But because of the like factor although I see people using the favorite tweet as a like mechanism Yeah, yeah, you know And the smartphones with cameras is the international health crisis. There's a couple examples, group perception disorder technology enslavement disorders social network obsession syndrome compulsive conformance disorder influenza... A lot of things that I know but none of them really hit home what this is and I've been doing some research

1:35:04 Again, no one is really approaching it the way we are. But there's been a lot of research into technology in general as you know I keep rereading Ted Kaczynski's Technology in the Modern Age his manifesto which really combines leftist thinking with destruction once you add technology to it You know that on the front page of the Unabomber manifesto he says giving humans technology Is like putting an alcoholic and a barrel of wine I never knew that was like the thing, like his little sticker on the front of his manifesto. So here's a couple things I learned. Steve Jobs... and this came out just in The New York Times two days ago with someone who said some late-term interview with him he really limited his kids use of technology

1:36:00 He was a self-confessed low tech parent. And when the iPad came out, he didn't even let his kids have it! I think it's because he along with other technology leaders really knew about this thing that we have inside of us and there is a clip from Louis CK, which it's too long. You have to watch it He's on Conan and there's a whole setup It doesn't work on audio you have to see him do it And I liked his he had a theory about what this incessant behavior is and there's also book The Absence... The Loss of Absence There are many many interesting thoughts about what's going on here but he says

1:36:47 We all as human beings have this kind of empty hole in the pit of our stomachs where if you just sit down and think, and listen to your own thoughts pretty quickly realize Hey, you know I'm alone. What is this world? What am i doing here and I'm gonna die?" You know what I mean? Do you understand what I'm talking about? That's the whole CKs bit yeah But it's true we all have this feeling of this um...I think historically this has been filled up by religion And people get, oh what am I doing here? You know you start to hyperventilate. And he has a great bit where instead of grabbing for the phone which is what i think he's correct in assuming when people feel that alone moment or just boredom... If you have kids have you ever heard your kid say, I'm bored?" I used to say that all the time! I'm bored there's nothing to do

1:37:42 No, all kids say that constantly. I think there's... Really? I don't think kids are bored anymore! There is always something for them to do on the iPad. They still say it. Okay well good Well my kids don't have iPads Your kids are a little too old for what we're talking about here Well no i'm talking about when they were kids That's when they were said- They don't say it now although Jay does once in awhile But they don't say it now but you used to say it all of time just constantly and they had all the computer gear that they ever wanted if they wanted to just goof around on their machines. confronting our own humanity. It is the new religion in a way where, you know Muslims pray five times today I'm sure. Well you know i have a column coming up in the PC Magazine electronic edition not the online version but it's an electronic edition which is actually a magazine and it will eventually show up online and I've actually made this equation

1:38:45 which is that the uh... not only and the company has tapped into this the best is the apple com yet computers they have kept in the religious aspect of this and my parallel that i drew is that i find out cuz i've been think i'd be thinking about this for years which is what he said about apples advance all arrest draw these huge crowds a packed in the cooper tino or the dns centers of large symphony auditorium. And so I finally figured it out, it's a church service and Steve Jobs came up with the church service first and they have not violated the rules that if you've ever been to a mega-church...and I have been to one or a couple. The Glass Cathedral? Have you been there? The Glass Cathedral is not a mega-church Oh! I thought it was a mega-church It's a big church that's different A mega-church is designed to be put on a show

1:39:39 not give a service. And the Glass Cathedral guy, when he built that thing and that's an absolute... people should go out of their way to go visit that thing and go inside it's fantastic! But is not is not defined as a megachurch but it's not a mega church. The mega churches are specific large construction built to hold just the maximum number of people and then they put on a show, and the show is always very similar which is they have the preacher, the main guy which used to be Steve Jobs now it's Tim Cook. And you wear vestments, you wear black outfits because that what priest would do You can watch Twitter with the black thing on. Right? Then they bring all the megachurches always bring on visiting

1:40:25 preachers. And the visiting preachers in the case of the Apple presentation are the product managers who come out and preach about new products, and they're preaching it's all preaching. So then they preach all the time and a kicker to this is that all these mega churches have a band Somebody comes on, they play some damn music. Usually it's gospel music but in the case of the Apple... You too! Or whoever they always bring the... And there are guests that come out to... It's more of a Hollywood and the best mega churches is a Broadway production and essentially it's a church service and many other people I have a clip that when we played that clip from Fox News Guilfoyle said something

1:41:08 Oh, that was the one from last show? Yeah. If you had it handy and could play it again, but it's pretty short. But Guilfoyle says something which I reference in the column that this is just a religion, this is a substitute. Guilfoyle actually says—and she's a good Catholic girl—I was converted to Apple. Hold on a second, I want to get this clip for ya'. And I quote her in this from this clip. I quote her exactly what she says and it's all babbling It's just babbling she makes if you take and write this stuff down I can almost probably get it. I have it here, but I have it here. Yeah play that clip again you said did you just get the religious aspect and she's converted? She's converted to Apple! That was the legendary U2 helping Apple celebrate the launch of the iPhone 6 today and also the Apple Watch out in Cupertino California The company unveiled two new phones The six with a 4.7 inch screen And the six plus with a 5.5

1:42:06 It also designed a new wearable device called the Apple Watch that can supposedly do all kinds of cool things. So, Kimberly why are we so obsessed with Apple? Why do you want to know when everything is coming out? Apples are fun and tasty and good devices. I love it, I mean I'm a big convert to Apple. I even recently just tried the Samsung thing but I've never now, I don't know, I can't use it. People still camp out at the store there's no reason to camp out! I think its so good, its user friendly you got your little iPads, you got your iPhone, you've got your iMac...I actually have the Apple watch if we get a shot of this. Really is that true? Look at it. Okay so before we take your, I love

1:42:47 the mega church, the actual device is therefore the modern day religious version of The Bible. And no... That's not right! No, that the device is an icon it's essentially and I hate to say this let's take a look at what we have for our icons Church versus Apple they number one icon is the cross for The Church the number one icon for the apple is the apple logo and they finally you know use it as such they use it as a religious symbol These devices are essentially, they're icons. They're iconic the devices themselves and they're essentially the art... Understood but... The Bible you can't call them a Bible. The Bible is I don't know there was no Bible for this group. It's just pure preaching without a Bible. Can i just follow my logic for a moment? All right

1:43:41 So outside of the announcement, outside of the iconic nature of The Device When people feel that human emptiness. The sorrow or sadness Or whatever it is when you're sitting alone and just thinking to yourself That's when they grab for... They grab for rosary beads. Ooh there ya go I'll take rosary beads For 15 Rosary beads. Hmm, yeah the end rosary beads is a very good that would be kind of the the superficial level web

1:44:20 You know, when people just are at the bus stop or whatever or they're watching someone else to just grab their phone. That's the rosary beads but sometimes they do have to delve into get deeper into it. Well that you know is more complex than just playing yeah they do but generally...but its all superficial I mean I'm not gonna say that people who are on the rosary beads all day aren't well I would say there is a meditation of some sort and this kind of meditation with the phone. It's distraction distracting your thoughts away right which is what meditation does It's supposed to focus you in a certain way, but generally speaking if you look at meditation and you can read about this in Ram Dass' new book. Meditation is used as center yourself it's used to kind of coalesce the brain so you're not distracted easily by all kinds of stupid shit

1:45:04 Anything like what's going on with this, if we're gonna take the religious parallel is essentially a violation if you're a religious person of the first commandment. This is idolatry! This is something before God and making it god and its idolatry in the purest sense of the word. And you actually have this item, the Apple iPhone as an idolatrous item that you are essentially worshipping. And yes, in fact when you bring this stuff up with people they get very adamant about it because anybody who's all-in on this religion gets really mad at you I mean if you want to see...I mean you write a little bit of i've known this for years and every writer knows it either try not to abuse it but he writes something about apple which is

1:45:46 not even critical, but it doesn't go along with whatever the litany is because you're not a member of the religion. You just get inundated with email and letters and comments. Three or four hundred comments show up on the simplest little... Well, you were right about this but you're wrong about that! And by the way Mr. Dvorak, you said in 2007 that Apple shouldn't even get into this business So, I think it hits a number of the usage of the device which is in the pocket. It is connected all these things...think about it! The seven deadly sins lust gluttony greed sloth wrath envy pride it hits almost every single one of them

1:46:27 Yeah, yeah. Every single one! In fact the pride one is your whole diatribe about selfies. Well it's pride and envy they go together right? Right! Pride and envy with selfies definitely And so you have that element the gluttony... Wrath is cyber bullying. Yeah I think the seven deadly sins are all in play with an iPhone You know, it's an interesting thing for people to consider but I think anyone out there who...and we have a lot of religious listeners and they know about idolatry being the real problem. In fact Arnold Toynbee the great historian used to discuss this in many of his histories about how idolatry can replace religion very easily because it becomes religion. I think they would all perk up at this and probably consider donating.

1:47:22 Yeah, but we're not going to get any Pulitzer Prizes or anything. We're not gonna get any Pulitzer Prizes now. We are gonna get a podcasting award though! No, we aren't even gonna get that. But it is just fascinating to continuously observe and it is Absolutely unhealthy behavior. When you go on, like I go on the Twitch show during this one of these periods... Are you on today? No no Elgin's the host and he likes his certain guests. Yeah. Um, I would go on there and if it was during one of these phone rollouts

1:47:59 It's these are like they're not really discussing technology. These are acolytes, which is the word you should really understand They are acolytes and it's like I'm not i'm not an acolyte as far as i'm concerned Everything would be better off without an internet but the including this show Yeah, we wouldn't be able to do the show. That's a drawback but we'd probably make more money other ways Anyway the point is that you can get your word in it because you're kind of the guy with common sense I think is what I represent But it doesn't help and the acolytes outnumber you by thousands to one This is a...I think its fundamentally a spiritual uh... Well usually...excuse me

1:48:45 You're specific you're still talking really about the device But I am talking about the activity and it is not completely religion, but we have gotten to when Everybody should at least once a day sit down for 15 minutes outside and just think You know, I... Wasn't there a study recently that said that most and there was of course men it could have been both sexes. I'm sure saying that they'd rather be burned by a match or something or something rather than to be poked with a stick? Than then have their cell phone turned off. No then sit around thinking Right Just you know meditating contemplating things when this is exactly When the beauty comes but you know

1:49:30 All my ideas, all my thinking shower. It's always the shower because you can't have a phone in the shower Well at least not I don't have a phone but my iPod touch would not work and that's when the thinking comes That's that's when you start to choose showers Oh sometimes very long. I'll just stand there. See i'm a shower in and out Yeah, you're like Mickey in and out it's like get in get out I don't want to be sitting there getting all wrinkly from No, I don't meditate. I am in the zone. I go off Yeah, I am totally in the zone on that. Well we never got to our last guy or we did Fernando de los Reyes and Sierra Vista Arizona $200 do we give him the major karma? Yes yeah We did a whole bit She's like lost were you on your phone again? On my phone we have to come up with things though like when you're in a restaurant And I seen this happen it so often see a family of four and they're all sitting there on their phone

1:50:31 There's got to be something we can do or have that as a human being you can do, to this family. To jar them simultaneously and make them aware of what they're actually engaged in. You know? It's sad. You know what's weird too- Ah! I said it and I've caught myself. Half a buzzer. I don't need the buzz if i catch it Anyway, anyways. When did we transfer from not being okay to have the phone in the restaurant? Which I always thought was sketchy to begin with because it was real classy to have a phone in the restaurant at The Beverly Hills Hotel with you know, the big giant grill phone. No, I had the guy bring the phone- Mr. Curran there's a telephone call for you. That was hot!

1:51:25 That was hot. But then it became bad form to have a cell phone at the restaurant, which seems to be a contradiction of the earlier... I think it had to do with rarity and then now is okay everyone has cell phones are doing their texting they're looking stuff up when during dinner It's just like unbelievable Well its worse kids now don't think you know not just kids everybody we used to have conversations whole discussions arguments Because it wasn't on Wikipedia. There was no Wikipedia, there was no Google the answer and we like even Even though I'm not interested people would argue for hours about sports statistics and scores And now she's oh yeah look at this! Look here is the video of it Yeah right There's no more engagement We have yet to discover how

1:52:19 how, I will say enriching on one hand but how harmful this error will be. And we're going to be able to document it and make no mistake there's really bad crap happening to human beings right now and Silicon Valley most of them know it And they're just sitting there laughing and taking your money. Right, which is why Steve Jobs wouldn't let his own kids use the iPad! Yeah because he knew it He probably understood the church model because that church model began with him in the early days I mean he's the one who developed it as you know The Church Model for product rollouts Everybody else...nobody else gets it They think they can bring a bunch of people in then they dress in colorful clothes They don't have any idea what a megachurch how it operates or how it works

1:53:06 And so they just kind of copy what they think Steve or Steve was doing. And now Tim is doing, and Tim has stuck with it. He's got the black shirt or dark outfit, you know? And he pretty much would they'll blow it because I don't think that they fully understand what they're doing, but you know, they come out with a, you know, yeah. I mean, the last guy came out with a pink shirt, you notice all of that as that is just there are just the winners of the religious part of the race, the actual sickness that is happening is just unreal. Yeah, well it's what supposedly this would boil down to being bad. It's bad? Yeah, but it's fun to watch for me I find it fun to watch. It's fun to watch to a point until you have one of these friends of yours whose nutcase for these things and can grab you and shoot the two selfies before you can get away That's why I find extremely annoying

1:54:07 Yeah, it's all just part of it. I'm just... observe because people are... they're going to... you cannot end well! You need Rest in your brain you have a selfie of you with your two sisters That's in advance ready to go to the newsletter Maybe on Thursday as the teaser and it's an obvious selfie because you're you can be seen holding the camera. Yes if my sister's Phone she asked me to take it, and you said no this is for low lives I said do not put this on the internet is what I said oh

1:54:45 Oh. Where did it come from? The internet How did you get it from the internet? No Yeah That's sketchy It was on your Facebook account! But I didn't put anything on my Facebook Well somebody put it there So there you go, I don't even look at my Facebook so I do not know what it was but You don't have Facebook how did you find it? Jesse Judas Jayne C.'s wife At two Jesse Judas Jesse the Judas, he says did you see this picture of Adam on his Facebook page? I said... she shows it to me. I said no that's interesting send it to me so she sent it to me yeah now fine my sisters must have been... I expressly said please do not put that anywhere when I was with my daughter in New York take a picture of us selfie and said just for me just that horrible picture is it's just for me

1:55:43 I'm not gonna publish it. It's just for me! It's always assumed But the sickness is embedded. Oh, that's a shitty picture That's right You shouldn't have expected the thing not to show up No but this-I'm talking about when i was taking pictures with my daughter that she gets worried It's a crap picture so but it's my picture. I'm not going to post it She's not believing this because that's not the way it works Yeah, that's the way it works in my world Well you're very and still to be proven She doesn't trust you, obviously. Because she doesn't know that you're completely divorced from the illness? But you understand...well, you understand my point. Look it's not going to end this is only accelerating there we look how fast we adopted MySpace to Facebook Facebook to Twitter the next big thing is going to be a very rapid adoption

1:56:39 and people are they're going to burn out. They are short circuiting already, people are going to burn out if children walking up the television screens trying to zoom in with their pick with their fingers there three years old true yes it's very true wow yeah kids at 3-4 years old have an iPad then they walk into a TV and think double tap and zoom and rotate who is smudging up the tv? It's a mess! And one day they will because Human beings work best with tools when they perform consistently. So now screens are seen this way and everything is supposed to work this way, and man I just after my spin class on Friday... I know how gay does that sound? I like the way you introduce it! After the spin class the other day... After the spin class and all the hot chicks were in this one

1:57:36 It's a Friday noon, so it was perfect. Before they pick up the kids all these MILFs and the minute we're done... They're all on their phones. And then I went to have a bowl of chili and some coleslaw at Joe's there on 2nd Street, and you sit outside...and everyone is sitting at the tables on phones! There are phones, laptops, three-phones no one is talking, no ones conversing, and then this one lady who has a laptop, Blackberry, iPhone, and iPad has two beautiful little puppy dogs that tied underneath her chair, and people are coming by they're so cute and they're taking pictures with their phone. I'm living in a nightmare." And you just have to observe it to feel superior as a human being. Yeah, yeah right? So i guess that's one way you could do it

1:58:27 I find it just disturbing to see everybody on these phones constantly. Like you said, they get off of one thing and immediately go to the phone because what are they? Heart surgeons? Why do you need to be checking this stuff constantly for your fix? John, it is the same... It's dopamine. Dopamine, you get all these chemicals that are, you know, the Pavlovian. It's a real honest... Cocaine is healthier than smartphones and Facebook. There, I said it! That's a good one... not gonna say it's not true Now the combination of smart phones, Facebook and cocaine that's lethal you're dead within a week but truly if you better off be smoking dope and listen to Bob Marley records

1:59:21 Man. Yeah, man... Alright we should get off this. I'm it's yeah i know It's annoying okay we can get no but i wake up in the morning and think oh my god the world is people have No idea what's happening to them! I am a visionary from the future i see death ah thanks thanks for accentuating My point very good okay well now what do i do with my clip list? Sorry i think We went through A lot of material right there All off the top of our heads, which probably backs us up in the stuff that we researched. I love how people say Adams like Alex Jones right now and I don't think I've ever heard Alex Jones talk intelligently about the triad of the international health crisis. No. Go back to talking about your own books you morons! Talk about...

2:00:13 About seeds and then you'd be like Alex Jones Seeds, but he's still doing the male vitality. He's got selling boner pills All right. What do we have? Let's go what's up on the agenda Well you were good You were gonna play a clip Oh my clip are you look for the clip list and I will play it they found except no never mind No, no, let's go back in time. Nope Sorry though. You missed out let me give it a heart We are going back in time, ladies and gentlemen. We are going back several years to episode one for one! Well there's something else I noticed about the Department of Defense... And it was kind of under-reported but you may have seen that they arrested a spy John A scientist was arrested on spy charges

2:01:06 And, um... because apparently he tried to sneak out two thumb drives which the TSA noticed at the airport as he was flying into abroad. I think it was flying to uh.. Do you remember this episode? You remember back in the day? Yeah! Maybe Israel and so when they came back they nabbed a guy And they say, oh what was on these thumb drives? It was very important classified information about nuclear warfare. So I'm following up on this guy and actually this is another Wall Street Journal picture. Let me just find it here. Well it will be in the show notes somewhere

2:01:50 And this I do. I sound different from episode 141 to today and I think I sound yeah Yeah, but you sound different because you're using a different mic and so this is one of the guys Maybe I was still stoned back then am i baking? This is the Mike no humor stop being stolen. I think on episode 100 You're right it wasn't happening if your your right It was on that on the day as talking to the press when what I thought was NASA Was going to go bomb the moon and The only thing that's interesting about the picture is he's holding up a big cardboard picture. Here it is, space scientist has held his spine this is it Actually I'm not going to tell you what...I want you look at this link John and you tell me what you see. So I should have cut this down? Sorry. Yeah You don't have to read the story It's coming up But just look at the picture His name was Stuart Nozet And uh This is a briefing

2:02:48 Come on. About the original L-Cross project, which of course was the moon bombing which we now know was actually intended to bomb someone else's moon base had nothing to do with finding water but now look at this picture John. Wait wait you just basically gave a leap of faith commentary there that has not been discussed on this show Yes it has bombing somebody's base? Yeah, of course it wasn't about water. It was about bombing someone else's moonbase. No you never talked about this! Well I'm sorry oh it's about bombing the other moon bases there okay yeah sure well and now look at the picture what do you see so the guy is holding up the big picture he's in the middle okay now where are they standing is that NASA? No its the Pentagon. Its the Pentagon exactly

2:03:38 So this was a NASA scientist who attempted to pass on top secret nuclear and space secrets to a shill, an FBI agent. He thought he was passing it onto the Mossad And you read some of the transcripts from the phone calls they taped... ...and uh.. he actually says oh I was wondering when you guys were going to call me because of course it was Israeli moon bases that we bombed. There ya go! Sorry should have cut the beginning off for that. There ya go You were right sir. I mentioned Israeli moon base yeah, of course that was right And then I said more stuff after you cut me off. That's why I went crazy Exactly anyways we're coming back to the future here We are back to the present

2:04:24 You want to talk about Scotland for a minute? Yeah, but I'm getting more confirmation that our prediction of a slim marginal wind only to be recalled and done over... I think that's right. ...might come true! I do have a clip that was sent in from one of the Scottish TV shows, Scotland One or something, and they play this Scotland One clip where we get a little background on what some of the issues are cropping up is very interesting At the Yes Campaign city centre headquarters we meet its mastermind, Blair Jenkins chief executive of Yes Scotland. We always knew that because most of the mainstream commercial media would be against independence our best way to counter that was to build a very active numerous

2:05:15 local community-based campaign and that's what we intended, that's what we've achieved. Jenkins dismisses fears that an independent Scotland would be isolated in Europe The fundamental principles of the European Union are those of democracy self determination The notion that countries of the European Union would somehow look to punish people of Scotland for making a democratic choice doesn't seem to us to stand up But the political ferment of this referendum campaign is not just being felt in the cities. The Isle of Bute, off Scotland's western coast. Population 6,000 On the island's ferry passengers weigh up this historic decision What is the main reason why you are looking for a yes vote? Well it is to...for more progress and the change of living, better living for my children really Just have more fair society and not be ruled by Westminster anymore

2:06:15 Too many unanswered questions. The revenue is going to come from oil, nobody knows what resources are left with oil? Yo-yo! All right so there's a number of things going on I think worth at least discussing because the American public doesn't have a clue about any of this of course. They can't...yeah exactly true There is for one thing and there's just some background 20% of Scotland supposedly is below the poverty line that's a million people out of a five million population and they believe with some you know justification because of what Thatcher tried to do in the 80s that they'd be better off without England now that they have these oil wells that are offshore. That produce, apparently the majority of all the EU countries

2:06:57 Scotland has the most oil. The most oil is actually owned by Norway, but they're not in the EU." They were wisely... Just stayed out of that. Stayed out of it now which, by the way makes you wonder why Scotland doesn't follow Norway's lead as opposed to demanding being in the EU and making a big fuss about it and bitching about the fact that French has said we're not going to vote for this or approve this which is a mystery nobody explained. Well but there is one step at a time they would have to be independent first you can just hop right into the EU Well, the way they see it they're already EU citizens and so they can. Oh interesting! So that's where they see it? I've read both sides of the argument and both...I think both sides of the argument have valid points uh and lots of them and I think it's a confusing situation. I would say that if it was me and I was there uh I would probably vote for it because the Scots have been bitching about

2:07:55 being ruled by England for 400 years. Yeah, four hundred years more or less and it's like you want to now not vote for...you have the opportunity to do this and apparently they had a similar opportunity in the late 70s early 80s we'll see but I think what i think The power, the British...the West Minister as they like to refer to it I think is probably not gonna let this happen. Because I think there's so much money in those wells off the Scottish shores that they're not gonna let the Scots just walk off with it now. Well, it comes across to me that the Scottish population and we do get a fair amount of emails about this

2:08:38 They just said, you know what could be worse? Who can we might as well do some to just do it. Let's see what that is We can always do something else I think it's You're right now and then I did what the guy said in the clip playing for my children. No, let's give this a shot Let's paint our faces blue and let's vote Yes And the other thing is like the guy says the international media is all against this why Well for the obvious reasons The UK wants their oil I really don't think they care about the citizens of Scotland. They don't care about any citizens, the people is irrelevant it's about the resources now what is being played very effectively as far as I understand Scotland has their own national health system which is different from the mainland UK one

2:09:27 And that is a big point that they're very worried at status quo, what will happen to that. But if they feel they will be able to protect it... I mean when there's the BBC broadcasts in Scotland you know there's been nothing but anti-separation messaging going on And still these people are like, yeah no let's do this. And I think they will and you're right this cannot stand so just like Ireland i don't see why it would be any different with the Lisbon Treaty

2:10:03 Okay, we'll let you have your win and then we'll say it's a do-over. I can't even remember how they played the Ireland. How did they do that? Do you recall what the trick was to get... There was no trick! They just did it again. They just did it again right. And about half of people voted the second time. Right right right. It's like what's the point in the first vote? Yeah and that's gonna happen. I'm sure this is going to happen. I don't know if the Scots will rebel against that or anything like that. No please Yeah, probably not. Please they might change their Twitter icon I could see that big protest The tartan yes, I see that big protest coming down the pike for sure

2:10:48 You know, the British can always throw them a bone. I mean where they put it now with the no vote guys, they say that there's X amount of money collected in taxes from Scotland and Scotland receives X amount back plus $2 billion dollars. And so it's like well how is this a bad thing? We're being taxed at this amount and then we're getting that back plus 2 billion. And I'm always thinking, well this is like a shell game. You're getting money pulled out and then you... It's just bookkeeping it. What's the point of taxing them at all if they're gonna do that? Just give them two billion! So there's nothing...it doesn't make sense to me. That argument seems bogus. Adam can you give me...I need 100 bucks from you and I want this every month. Here's what I'm going to give you some money in the form of credits or

2:11:41 I mean, it's obviously you just don't get the money back. This whole thing is...I would hope that they do this. I think it'd be fun to...this would be great for the show and probably good for the Scots. They stand on their own two feet at this point. They've got their own parliament. They put that in place 20 or 30 years ago with some nice fistfights. That is just generalizing John. Yeah, there'll be fistfights. I can assure you. Looks like we have Jean-Claude Juncker the Drunker has thrown his blessing upon the capital markets and has brought in a massive shill to run the... To be what do they got? Commissioner or what is this position this guy's going to have? To really unionize...to create the Capital Markets Union

2:12:38 Which is really the the final step once you have the political union, which is pretty much in place in the EU Now bring all the banks together which Dysel bloom I think has kind of failed at the Dutch guy But they're really really ramping it up now and no one's paying attention. I don't think citizens understand anymore Are they trying to create a European Central Bank? Yeah Well there already is an ECB There is a European Central Bank. Yeah, but it's really just a paper tiger I mean the real power of bank power still in Germany... Right yeah well so where's Jean-Claude Juncker the drunker from? Hello his whole plan! But he is giving this to the UK guy who was at London City and just looking for his name here

2:13:25 He's a, you know, city of London which is not even England. It's his own country whatever the financial center is it is yeah the creation of the capital markets union Jonathan Hill will be the incoming British commissioner and it is his job to create the capital markets union now The capital markets Union I believe is then used to Create new kinds of bonds which would be similar to US Treasury bonds. Does that make sense? Yeah, no they're this is being discussed and this is one of the things some EU members don't like. Yeah yeah like people who just what happened to my country what is this flag why am I saluting this while listening to Beethoven's Ode To Joy What Am I doing here This can't be right

2:14:16 Yeah, it's a pretty good backdoor strategy to take over the whole of Europe. It was great! Very genius-oriented. Meanwhile we're talking about this group I've had this clip from all about Oland who just took a joyride and went to Baghdad. And this is a very interesting report, I don't know what is this all about? Explain to me. Capital Our main headline this hour Francois Hollande is in Baghdad where he's offered support to Iraq's president and the Iraqi government generally Francois Hollande who is the first foreign head of state to make the visit since the Islamic State took over vast swathes of Iraq

2:14:55 Visiting head of state as well to land in Baghdad since a an Iraqi government was formed after months of wrangling A new Iraqi government was sworn in on Monday something Francois Hollande earlier congratulated Iraq's president on Hey, what the hell was the music all about? This is showing up on more and more European news shows. They kind of hypnotize you with the background music as they read stories. It reminds me... I think it was invented by the sports networks It can't be good. No, it can't be good. It's got to be bad I agree but this is going to start happening in the United States you watch so You're gonna start he's gonna start off slow and then as pretty soon is gonna Be the whole news half-hour on network news is gonna get a music bed. It's gonna have a bed Yeah, I can big bit going blah blah blah blah blah that did it at that I have a piece from NewsHour which I do not believe contains any music beds

2:15:58 This was broadcast on the September 11th edition when we had our show that evening. This is about the 28 pages that are missing from the report, so this is now going mainstream which is... It's about time! Well 9-11 though it's you know yeah you can bring it up then like... Which by the way I'd like to point out By presidential proclamation Hold on second Here it is, America will never forget. This is the president. Never forget this September tragedy that shook our nation's core 13 years ago and then he got a day that began so much like blah blah blah blah So therefore I Barack Obama President of the United States of America do hereby proclaim September 11th as Patriot Day and National Day of Service and Remembrance Patriot Day? Hmm... That's weird And I said it again

2:16:59 If I didn't say anything you wouldn't have noticed. My finger has to go to the button, it's in my butthole so it takes a second! That is a strange thing what do you think this is all about? I think they're trying to turn September 11 into a holiday. Yes and we'll celebrate the Patriot Act as we always do on September 11 because that came out of it very good stuff and it's all based on pretty much a flawed investigation.

2:17:45 meeting with and even funding two of the 9-11 hijackers when they first arrived in the U.S., but only a handful of people have seen them, right? That's right. Right after 9-11, a very unusual congressional inquiry with both the House and Senate Intelligence Committee chairmen convened to find out what had happened. And they did quite a lot of research—this is before the 9-11 commission took effect—and They published their report in 2003, and it was heavily redacted. But there was one entire section—28 pages that was taken out entirely—and the Bush administration justified it on national security grounds. But congressmen that I've spoken to who have read those 28 pages say it has nothing at all to do with national security, that the Bush administration and the relationship with the Saudis is implicated

2:18:39 And they also admit that it has something to do with the two Saudi hijackers. I've talked to, you know, I talked to the 9-11 commissioners and Governor Tom Kane for instance has he's seen those 28 pages he thinks they ought to be released. He thinks, not just those 28 pages he says this is just a small part of much larger story there's lots of information that joint inquiry and the 9-11 commission turned up that still has been kept from the American people for instance their interviews with President Bush with former president Clinton with Vice President Cheney those still haven't been released I think after 13 years

2:19:22 the American people can afford to know the truth. I think this is part of a...every time I see these sorts of things crop up, this is old. This from just 11 years old these missing 28 pages right? More 13 years old No, I think this thing came out in 2003. I could be wrong whatever the case it's Well, I have my copy here continue. I will grab It's over a...this not to do the main investigative report This is that one that came out there they referred They made a long report that was earlier. But whatever the case, it's beside the point they are this is a hit piece against Saudi Arabia there's a bunch of these things going on and I

2:20:06 I look at him as hit pieces because why after 11 years are we starting to point the finger at Saudi Arabia? But if you remember during the 9-11 period, they were already pointing their finger because these guys are all from Saudi Arabia. Then they soft peddled the whole thing until...I don't know what to deal with Saudi Arabia but some things up with Saudi Arabia. I agree 100%. There's subtle other media wars going on, Al Jazeera... Now do we have a beef with Qatar? Are we messing up that relationship now too or is it because we can't get the gas pipeline up through Homs and Aleppo into Turkey are they pissed off at us for some reason? It's a possibility! Here's an al-Jazeera report which was very surprising to a big corporation

2:20:55 I point out, of course Al Jazeera is owned by the Qatari royal family. The Boeing 787 sold as a dreamliner. An all new airplane in once in decade if not one generation achievement of human ingenuity For airlines it's cheap to fly for passengers it offers unparalleled comfort Wow! For Boeing it promised windfall profits is the plane of the future. But Al Jazeera discovers a dark side to the dreamliner. Unimaginable that we could be three years late, have a fleet grounding, have fires on the airplane...

2:21:43 Our investigation finds Boeing altered its own quality standards. They're shortchanging the engineering process to meet a schedule and they have whistleblowers This is a 20-minute hit piece on Boeing on the Dreamliner even though Qatar cutter bought a whole mess of them not too long ago This must be some attack. There's something going on, yeah and I've got a hit piece here this is really off the wall this was from Van Katt and it's just an off-the-wall...this is the most off-the-wall hit piece I've seen for a long time about something that goes back to 1915. This is a hit piece on Germany done by the French

2:22:27 And this is about their colonization, colony days. But play this. It's the tale of a genocide largely forgotten by the wider world more than a century ago Germany colonized the area of southern Africa now known as Namibia in the years that followed tens of thousands of Africans were killed and all opposition was crushed But ultimately, after its defeat in World War I Germany would lose Namibia and all of its other African colonies. Well as the world marks the centenary of World War 1 our reporters have been having a look at Namibia's history and at Germany's shameful role in it

2:23:03 Yeah, we're poking them with a stick. Is that not a hit piece? They were poking Germany with the sticks. Thousands of years ago people but on a shameful... Hey you crowd here I'm poking you And then they use of course genocide in terms and it follows up as a long report actually goes on for about 15 minutes and they re-entered there in Namibia and they interview some old Germans that are still there and its very interesting Everybody's... It was very good history There are many things Yes, I think we're already in the info World War 3. Something along those lines can't be missed.

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2:29:12 No titles, no nightings... none of that. Out Magazine is promoting their next episode will shock the world! Do you subscribe to Out Magazine? I know about it and it's essentially outs people for being gay. Not exactly. Out magazine is an LGBTQQIAAP magazine And recently Michelle Obama said that she will be featured in the cover feature of Out magazine coming up I presume the October issue. Okay She says quote, I cannot get into specifics. Oh she's gonna come out? Is this is going to happen? No let me finish the quote

2:30:03 I cannot get into specifics, but this will be a giant step for the LGBT community. It is going to transform people's perspectives around the world primarily where the rights of transgendered individuals are concerned." She said that? I have- this is the PR note that i'm reading. I do not have The specific quote on record It's a cheap tease... I love it We're all in a tizzy What if Michelle has a tranny

2:30:42 Yeah, it seems unlikely. Although Joan Rivers would... of course she ended up dead. They killed her for saying that so maybe they have to... But that is obviously what the tease is all about I'd be hurt if I was her yeah well there you go Very just gonna do it. You know all it's gonna be here's what I did my prediction alright It's gonna be a boring playboy magazine like interview with Michelle that goes nowhere probably right you know where we would like to support the community blah blah blah Anyway, yeah So I have an interesting little piece of a little clippage okay? so I'm watching I'm watching one of the NBC affiliates and

2:31:28 Do the weather guy he's not doing the weather. He is and they pushed him into the to a store of football store at the new stadium And he does essentially a... You're saying, you're saying essentially a lot today. Ooh! You yeah and I've backed off of this and i'm hearing it everywhere now Yeah I got us. Because it is a very weak use of the word which kind of means don't disregard any thinking just believe me yes we that's okay then I'm going to change the different one right now disregard any thinking just believe me on this oh thank you at least you're being honest

2:32:08 Yes. They have the guy doing his report from the store and it's essentially a promotion for the store, he admits it is and then they get...they have a little...this to me epitomizes the conflicts of interest that you have in mainstream media. And then he follows it up with, I have the two-parter here this is the outrageous ANTV promotion and then I got to part 2 which is a short part and part 2's not really...is another point I'm gonna make but let's listen to this ridiculous Ridiculous weather report. What we do here at Levi's Stadium is shop. Chief meteorologist Jeff Renieri is in the team store and Jeff I understand you already found yourself some goodies at the store? Yes, we are right here where all of the action is We're not even at the season home opener which of course is on Sunday And people are already coming into the doors to the team store check out the registers back here behind me and you can see they Are very very busy.

2:33:06 Anyone that wants to come in here tonight can come on in and check things out. I mean this place is gigantic! It's probably as big as maybe a football field, in terms of square footage. As my photographer pans on back you can see just the depth of all that 49er paraphernalia. They've got cups they have They've got key chains. They have stuffed animals, they have stuff for adults, they have stuff for kids... Yes it feels a little bit like a commercial but we are of course one of the sponsors of the 49ers this year We are very proud to call them an NBC Bay Area partner And let's go on come on in since you know I'm your personal shopper tonight We'll show you some of the things you can't miss The Levi Stadium inaugural season tee shirt They said this will fly off the shelves It's already commemorative item You can only get that at this store Ladies check out this tee shirt

2:33:54 goes on and on. Yeah, but it's not a commercial just because they happened to you know... But here is an interesting little tidbit that came up at the end he does the finishes this promotion does the weather comes out of the weather report with a little tidbit on what sells the most What sells the most at the store? And then I'm dedicating this clip to Eric The Shill. Jessica, I asked what the most popular item is. You might be shocked to find out it is a lanyard. People love to put their passes in and show it off so uh...I thought maybe it was a t-shirt or football or something? It's a lanyard! So get the lanyards they say they sell out sometimes. Let me tell you, lanyards are popular. Lanyards all people love a lanyard

2:34:54 I know, I know. That's Eric DeShill's idea. He was giving free lanyards to people who ordered anything and I think he slips them in once in a while with the night ring but I was just like what? Did football season just start is that when... Yeah this is the second week Oh okay so thats why we had all this bull crap oh okay it was a promotion I get it now Yeah, the Ray Rice thing. I didn't understand it's all a promotion everything is a promotion Why are we watching TV? But I know because I have to report on it It's my job but I have to dissect it all the time and why is the news when the president very clearly said Isil he was consistent Isil yes become ISIL but he says no some people say ISIL That's not my point

2:35:42 CNN is saying ISIS. Yeah, why? Because it's a different group! You know the thing is... well it's not a different group we don't believe any of these are even a group but I think that at some point you have to bite the bullet on this stuff And you have to go with what the president says. If he calls it ISIL, and he doesn't mean... He calls it specifically ISIL. Yeah but there should be a style guide. It used to be ISIS or whatever or Islamic State or they had all these long branding problems or actually the benefits and then finally boil it down to ISIL But nobody's... As far as I'm concerned

2:36:29 It's ISIL, I mean it ruins our one jingle the ISIS ISIS baby. Well we have a couple of them now but we have the best one which is the ISIS ISIL go to hell or whatever it is yeah well let's just play that just so while we still can That's a rhymer that's is IL L perfect and then the other one which we had the other Isis one is nice Isis Isis, baby. Yeah, so Anyways of dibs oh I got one more thing. I want to do well just let me just Play that one or at it Nice I like that one because it has two explode yeah And it's timed well

2:37:20 Yeah, it's time. Well the explosion right the explosion is dropped in right there right where it belongs yeah I was watching The Today Show Well, I'm reading Mein Kampf to brush up on propaganda tactics You are reading, you are watching the Today Show. Okay... So they're going off on fat people in one of those as we read the guy who did the I'm gonna kill my wife and it's illegal for me to say that I want to kill my wife. Right. It's horror. I'm gonna tell you so this is horrible that I'm gonna say these things and play This is the discussion this is a classic today show Discussion about social media, and what I don't even know why they watched any of them which I can't figure out This is the one that says fat discussed on today show got it I wrote an article about marriage and all anyone noticed is that I'm fast

2:38:21 In June, Minnesota writer Galit Breen wrote a story for Huffington Post's 12 Secrets Happily Married Women Know. But there was more feedback apparently about her wedding photo than the story. She offered to photograph to accompany the story. Reader posts included huff and puff You love fat women and don't marry a heifer. I'm sorry to say those things on TV, but that's those were the comments in her follow-up She wrote there are very few times. I think it's okay to comment on a woman's body in a complimentary or negative way I think we all need to stop that conversation To consider it taboo Yeah, I mean it's outrageous that people feel like in comment. I mean you just never comment and what do they think their body? What are you trying to accomplish? What does that do for anybody makes them feel better about themselves now they're eating Cheetos? I don't know and if we have this conversation a million times online It's anonymous people feel like they're just putting it out there And it doesn't matter but talking to somebody and about somebody and its growths it hurts In fact the writer went on to say how much it sort of emotionally destroyed her

2:39:20 and she cried about it until her husband put it all in perspective. She has a healthy, happy marriage so that's the joy of it she was writing a piece about having a good marriage anyway if you needed a study the University College London conducted a study and they proved that fat shaming does not work. I'm liking it. They experienced negative comments like the ones we shared encourage to lose weight, they may gain weight actually from comfort eating. I will tell you from experience and it's one of the things that I talked about nagging somebody about their weight whether its a loved one or not your not helping them right? You're pushing them away We know what fat okay! We know it! We get it okay Now we want to remind you Anyway lets show what we got going on Lets look ahead to the week Alright now...I listen to this stuff as all precursors

2:40:15 taking the internet and shutting down this crap. All of this, John you are so right we got to shut down the evil ISIL videos we've got a shutdown all the hate speech... Hate! We gotta shut down all of the negativity, the bullying, we gotta shut it all down and this is why you want to become involved in the camping of social media which is ham radio obviously which is very restricted too. But anyway, I listen to this stuff and it's just all pre-press, all propaganda about you know... All the anonymous comments here they've been trying to bust these anonymous commenters but it's free speech by the way but that did this whole thing about free speech are trying to clamp down on

2:41:07 Free speech with the because of citizens united so you can't do you can't do police? You can't little ads have to be approved and you can only spend so much. Yeah, you know yeah by the government in the spending anyway It's all it's all bad Yes, no this is not the way but it's always presented as a oh that's poor woman or fat person protector Yeah, well they go off. Do you know fad there'll be something else skinny, but pockmarks pimples you know Oh They just made fun of this some person and then the person was sickened by it Okay, the good news is that no matter what is done. The network itself is unstoppable So no matter what they think they're going to do there will always be ways to Utilize the network to communicate just will not be on the scale You know you won't be able to Do a lot of things and most people won't be aware of it It will still be usable

2:42:03 In the network itself, I think it's just a virus that cannot be stopped. All the protocols on top? Yeah they're gonna run around and try and restrict a lot of that. Good on them! I have a very bleak outlook today...I don't feel good about anything that i've said or seen Well, that's because there is not much good going on. Well you know it is a slow news day." I have been reading this book The End of Absence by Michael Harris Reclaiming What We've Lost in A World of Constant Connection. I recommend that. Take a look at that book

2:42:41 It talks a lot about, there's a lot of research material. Michael Harris? Why does that name ring a bell? Michael Harris? Michael Harris. Sure. But I'm enjoying this book and his conclusion is what we're losing right now is absence the just being absent-minded or just you know... But we make up for it on this show let's see yeah sorry about the delay in your laughing all right I'm looking him up. You look him up? Mike Paris, you see the there's a million this is a problem when you have a guy like it need names like The End of Absence is the book while you're looking that up I will read we have a new member Of The No Agenda Tourettes Club and I want to welcome our new member who however does wish to be Wish to remain anonymous with an email

2:43:36 Thanks to all of your hilarious talk about Tourette's and superpowers, I've come to begin suspecting that I had TS. Which as you know is the MSM version of Tourette Syndrome. We like to think it more as a benefit. Come to find out after bringing it up with my parents, I was told in fact that I do have mild case of Tourettes! So in a way, I can consider your talk of Tourette's as yet another service of your fine podcast. Did I know that now yes, I am a Tourette's sufferer? I have so far acknowledged every one of your superpowers from remembering long strings of numbers, being able to catch things that fall off things rather easily even though i have no depth perception among others that i can't remember right now. My tics range from extending my elbows to crack it and that's a good one...I've had that sequence for awhile also rolling of the ankle while walking which i thought yeah that's uh

2:44:34 where you put your, not ankle but I think he means that your heel. So you put your heel down and then you turn your heel It's a very weird one. It gives you the silly walk from Monty Python, along with individual shoulder shrugs and most recently a neck craning from side to side until it cracks He has the crack Tourette's, yes. That's very annoying When I'm alone I look like a nut job but little do they know about my data crunching object catching superpowers I keep it relatively under control but as soon as I'm alone it all comes out in a string of spasms and ticks that probably looks ridiculous Yes this is what we do When we're either alone or podcasting. I take like a crazy man podcast thing Yeah, that's why...I can't do this on camera. It would be uncomfortable it would not be the same show Well you've done this on camera before! You were on the show recently somebody showing your own camera yeah but so i'm using

2:45:27 a significant percentage of my superpowers just to keep the ticking down to a minimum, and that's a waste of resources. Right. Anyway we want to welcome this new member to our natc.noagendanotes.com, the No Agenda Tourettes Club. Welcome! You're among friends. You're Among Friends Alright, anything else? Let's see... We've got a couple of things here that we can do. Yeah? Because I'm supposed to keep an eye on the time and i think we're- What no no no! We have plenty of time

2:46:07 How about this? You're talking of...I was watching a lot of hearings. There was an odd that came out of them, but there is one hearing on cyberterrorism and terrorism combined the two cyberterrorists. Oh yeah! I watched half of it. Yeah it was very boring. Very boring but I thought this was kind of interesting. This is a guy they're introducing this general as we have his name written down there but this is an example of this guy uh... he was a brigadier general then he was in some day was the sum secretary state position any wasn't and he was goes to all these different jobs and now he's

2:46:46 part of some terrorism, Homeland Security is back in government. He went from government to private sector to government actually government-government-government private sector for eight years and then government and just try to pick up the private sector mention and tell me if it's kind of amusing what company he was vice president. Okay. ...be taken along with the steps that we still need to take to prevent this from happening We'll drill down on this threat and its impact on our homeland both in this open hearing as well as into classified briefing directly following. But that's not all we're going to do. In addition to examining the more conventional terrorist threats, the instability in Iraq and Syria... No no no this is not the right clip! The clip I want is lip smacking... I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. To General K. Cole. If we can do more God bless us. On behalf of all members our committees thank you for joining us today.

2:47:42 Our first witness is retired Brigadier General Francis Taylor. Mr. Taylor's the Undersecretary for Intelligence and Analysis in the Department of Homeland Security How long have you been in that job now, general? Four months good In this role he provides a secretary DHS leadership DHS components and state and local tribal and private sector partners with the homeland security intelligence And information they need to keep our country safer secure resilient General Taylor came to DHS with 31 years of service in the US Air Force, four years in the State Department as Counterterrorism Coordinator and as the Assistant Secretary for Diplomatic Security and eight years as Vice President at General Electric. Second witness is... Yeah. Wouldn't it be GE? General Electric! Nice Now I'm looking at this guy, I just sense that I can't be sure. I doubt that he can even use a computer

2:48:35 Yeah, I saw this whole group and i was so underwhelmed that after 45 minutes... And it takes 45 minutes for everyone to do their opening statements. Oh these opening statements are the worst! Thank you and oh you're so fantastic and thank you for your service and blah. Well during this one of the guys And I think it's that guy who was the head of national counterterrorism or something. But he, but I thought this was worth listening to this is the four groups of cyber when they're cyber terrorism they're trying to combine it so they can spend more money taxpayers money wasted ways that there are I didn't realize our four groups

2:49:16 More groups that are risk that are cyber terrorists and this is what they are the recent years We truly expect them to continue to climb and grow I could break down the threats to our country in four broad categories from cyber spies transnational organized criminals terrorists and hacktivist groups The bottom line is we're losing a lot of data money ideas and innovation To a wide range of cyber adversaries Yeah Yeah, and there should be a fifth group which is every Silicon Valley company that has an app on your slave device. They're the ones really sucking you dry

2:49:57 I'm turning into this Luddite and I don't like it. Jaycee, that's why I think I should help influence that... Jaycee even though I still you know but Jaycee had this interesting argument you know he's the one who pointed out that they used that mosquito device or whatever it was when the president was in town and turned on everybody's iPhone. The Viper. Is it Viper? No. I thought it was a mosquito or hornet sucker. The stinger. Or stingray Stingray. He says that all of iPhones in the office, and everybody uses an iPhone because they're all part of the religion And I am... Of course my comment at the table is always well why don't you just take the battery out? You have to worry about it Not out of the iPhone my friend Then i go what?! That makes no sense! Why would you build a device like that? Anyway

2:50:43 He says, he had another comment recently. He says every time, he swears this is true, every time Apple comes out with a new phone the programs and speed and everything on the old Apple phones degrades Oh yeah, no. It slows down it doesn't work right anymore and it just gets worse every time he says he's noticed this before every time a new phone comes out the old phone gets stops working well Yeah Well its also the OS that you know they come up with a new OS and all this stuff Why would they make the old phones now? Its planned obsolescence come on John You know how there is worse than that They make these people as we notice with that clip from Fox

2:51:24 People who are into the iPhone, they buy the new one when it's like the same. He's like they're not I don't even know if they're cultivating new buyers this is the old buyers and good. They were all in yeah oh i'm getting a new one well we're okay i'm going to finish now do you have more clips or can I just finish Well, I have... Yeah. I do actually. Okay. I've got the lip-smacking guy and we did the lip smacking guy yeah cyber that we can do without. The DOJ... I think i can float. Yeah! I think I'm good. Float on? There are more sanctions being put on the Russians for some unknown reason. No one's explained that to me, even though they've put the ceasefire up. Okay? We're going to have to get back I think in the next couple of days we will need to get back to Putin but i think there's more anti-gay Putin hates gays news coming out something may catch a little fire there

2:52:20 I don't think we will have another decapitation or beheading. What happened to decapitation? Why is it now beheading, is there... Beheading's more dramatic because the word head is in there yeah We could probably take a dead pool on this so I think probably before the next show there won't be but I think they will shortly thereafter For Sunday yeah for next Sunday probably and and I would just say that I look into I would like everybody Pay attention to your own habits, but to those around you and you will see that there is something so profoundly important happening with human beings today that is accelerating. And this latest Apple product which is...you know when it said Samsung or Moto whatever it's like meh! But now it says Apple It is the official sanctioned church version

2:53:20 There is something happening and people will start to die. Ha! Jeez... Yeah, you watch. Well you got me off guard on that one I'm telling you people will start to die in strange ways This is big. Well I almost ran somebody over the other day who just stepped into the street while looking at the phone and texting That's one way yeah, no there is Bad things are afoot and save yourself Just save yourself leave your phone at home Try it Opt out people opt out That's the best advice I can give you and opt your kids out for a while too or as much as you can You're creating zombies stop it. Well, that's what you get when you turn 50 Thank you. That's what it is. They turning into an old fart I'm gonna have to go out and party or something to get back into my boyhood. Oh, that's not gonna happen Coming to you from FEMA region 6 where it is chilly

2:54:25 In the morning everybody, my name is Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where it's not chilly in the least and I've embraced my fart hood. I'm John C. Dvorak We will be back on Thursday Join us will you? Right here on No Agenda. I'm Joe Biden and thank you for taking the time to listen.