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00:00 It's a QSL Bonanza. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday August 31st 2014 it's time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 648! This is no agenda... Now with 40 megahertz of RF bandwidth allocated to the Wi-Fi enabled canal house in The Pipe in the heart of Amsterdam In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm not traveling today I'm staying home on John C. Dvorak Yeah Now you're sounding good Jean Well, maybe Johnny Clodo. How are you gonna get a new router? You got a new router you got your new box yeah cool I don't know if that has anything to do with it No probably not I think because as I was checking things there is all kinds of other things going on Oh you had other things going on we're referring to Thursday's

00:55 Broad mediocre show the show is good. Thank you I listened to the show I listened back to the kale recipe book The show was outstanding my friend Field so here's a Here's what? I discovered did you discover anything besides your router box that yeah, my cable oh There was just general problems with the cable that had your band going up and down. The connection seems to be, was underneath the rain stick Oh! And as I bumped it with the rain stick after doing some rainstick action Which seems to have worked in the Midwest Hold on a second...I didn't know you rain-sticked without me? I did. I snuck one in Well I feel little harshed

01:53 You weren't in the room. I know, but when we stick with no we usually stick together you know? No, we don't stick together that's not true We stick together like birds of a feather even in rain or sunshine That's it sisters. That's it is sisters Sorry so what was your problem you had the you yours you had something screwy going on because you were I spent A lot of time first and I really had to decompress for 36 hours almost Because of just the chat room when something is wrong and you're asking there are people in there who? Are very helpful and have a lot of fight now expertise but in between all of the unplug it for 30 seconds All these extremely funny funny funny, it's just so funny

02:47 People couldn't just like shut up for one second so the people who actually knew something could post some information. And I'm telling you, because of this... I liked the jiggle the handle one! That's an oldie but goody isn't it? Oh yeah. Jiggle the handle. No, you really do like this one don't ya? It does. Well i've heard it so many times in the chat room that is not funny anymore to me. Jiggle the handle And then in the back channel I've got VoidZero. Of course he's an ASPY, you know all these guys are on the spectrum like I am and we all start freaking out we get sweaty and nervous and... ...and he can't figure out why the stream is breaking up because he's getting no signal from me Everything is going wrong but then he's Skyping messages which of course is going plunk! Plunk! Plunk! In my headphones

03:41 So all of this is going on and it was challenging to say the least. And we had this like 13, 14 minute reset so after all that I sit down with this router and I log in...I'm really taking my time and i do a lot of googling and there is a setting in this particular router which is the bandwidth of Wi-Fi radio frequency of the signal itself. For a lot of people this may sound strange because you think of bandwidth as in megabits, but just like a cable wire there is a bandwidth of the frequency... ...of the signal and it that you can choose between 20 megahertz or 40 megahertz so it's a much broader signal some devices won't work with that and actually I think it's more the older devices

04:38 And what had happened is everything was working fine until I fired up two more Wi-Fi devices. Because I had my speed test, everything was working fine and then I turned on the iPad which communicates with the MacBook Air for the jingle so you know...I can hit that stuff kind of on cue and then have it, uh, my really old MacBook Air, original version 3.1 whatever And I have that for chat room and a couple other things that are open on it. And when that happened, it took up all of the... somehow we think it wouldn't happen but it took up all this bandwidth of the actual RF bandwidth and then things started to buffer because I'm also sending out 128 kilobit stream to the server and when we hung up

05:33 I did a speed test and i had maybe 800 kilobits per second down and about 75 kilobits up. It's amazing we had any connection going on, huh? And the minute i changed that it fixed it! I'm being very careful of course. Well that brings up then...I would ask you this yes why don't you do that at the beginning of the show hey oh That reminds me of the joke that Peter Guber once told, and he was running Sony. Oh yeah I remember Peter Guber! Yeah he was running Sony and they Japanese kept grilling him about stuff so they said what were the movies for this year? He said well we had this movie and it did this much... We did this movie and it was a blockbuster then we do this movie and they showed all the movies And the Japanese says you must not know what your doing why don't you just do more of these? The Blockbusters

06:29 Yeah, please more of those. Just do more of these what are you doing these other movies for? The stupid movies that aren't blockbusters! Could you please produce a viral video for me? Exactly. That's another one my favorites so here we are in the Netherlands oh there we go I got the bat signal finally came through In Amsterdam i have to say I feel very proud of the setup that we have for this program I feel that it sounds virtually the same whether I'm at home base or wherever I am. And, uh, I think that is a part of what you get as your value consuming and contributing to the best podcast in the universe exactly. Yeah. You've got a nice rig. Nice rig. K five six three four whatever your numbers like you never remember yours. Yeah, no, you do with you have a KJ six LNG

07:29 K6LNG. That's not mine! KJ6LNG? Oh no, that's mine yeah... KJ6- That's not mine! KS5TX or something like that Not even close! KF5SLN KF5SLN I should remember that Yeah My wife doesn't even know my phone number What does she need to call you right now? No, but it's in her phone. This is how people are these days. It's in her phone and she says Adam doesn't need to know my phone. I'm like what if there was some kind of horrible accident and your phone... It's the DNS world! Yeah yeah. But I still know a lot of IP addresses by heart You don't need too. In some cases you do when you're doing technical stuff

08:24 You know, like tech news. You need to know your IP addresses in order that should be a test and you shouldn't know what is the well? Do you know IP addresses? What is the Google DNS? You know that yes 888888888888 there you go That's exactly right we have had a family dinner this is a Mickey's extended family She doesn't have any direct family his single child Single child should do a little bill violin here But it's her uncle week come through The violin? No. Yeah, it is yeah Okay I gotta get that fixed so we have a dinner and it's her uncle and Her uncles kids and so Uncle Willem is the Marxist like we've spoken about him before oh yeah great guy very well but something changed then it was Oh man Don't even get me started on that Couple things changed

09:27 First, you sit down and it's good to see everybody. You know we had Emma is there that is Maurits' daughter who stayed with us for two weeks you may recall in Austin and so we have a bond with a lot of these people right off the bat its burgers and bullets you crazy Americans! That's right what do nine-year old children doing machine guns? Oh, burgers and bullets. It can't get any stupider stupid, stupid Americans with the stupid guns, burgers and bullets. What? Nine year old needs to shoot a newsie! This is how it started. That's the Marxist? No no this is just the rest of the table. Now the Marxists he gets in... He starts saying couple things about climate change And I can't hold my tongue you know this is family You know I gotta say excuse me I lay my usual global cooling line on him

10:30 And he kind of, I don't know maybe I did one too many or...and he kinda went off and he's 84 but he's an elite. He's a historian, art historian very well respected in Marxist circles Which I always say, hey how did that work out? Whatever that means. How did that work out that Marxism? The Marxist circles. And where's the other guy in the circle? He died! We need a third to complete the circle. God we only got one guy left... And and all of a sudden he's like, you know I like you a lot Adam but you say some very very dangerous things Dangerous dangerous things. Oh no it he starts going He said he had a coke brothers fund all this in America tea party Europe part of the tea party and Wow Yeah Holland you're telling us but it's coke brothers is called They're funding billions of dollars

11:34 A dinner table in Holland? The Netherlands. Uh-huh That's how far the Koch brothers brand has gone now But I did. I did pull one, and I had to stop it but... Why do they give a crap? Because i was saying dangerous things They should be more aware of the cultural problems they must have over there that they give a crap about The Koch Brothers This is... Hold on well let me tell you because that's what that's what the direction I took I said, okay hold on a second. Let me just say something about what you are yelling tea party tea party tea party horrible tea party evil crazy criminals. Where does this name come from? I figured i got to get the guy in the intellectual front and this is from one of the most patriotic most defining moments

12:31 At the dawn of the new world, the birth of the United States of America when we declared our independence. We had the Boston Tea Party and do you realize that you are here in The Netherlands? And somehow someone has successfully turned in your head the Boston Tea Party into something evil and anti-American and anti world and anti earth. Do you think that maybe someone is behind that? And there's some clever messaging going on there, and you've been duped into saying this? Well he gave pause...

13:11 How are all those mosques working out for you? You're so aware with our crazy religious Americans because that was part of the tea party. They're fundamental Christian, crazy nut jobs to dude do you hear the guy calling for you to go to mosque in Amsterdam prayer five or five times a day So I finally got here. I slowed it down a little bit those things that do those things have speakers on them if you're like Nightmare in terms of although it has a pleasant ring to it because they do some of these guys can sing But yeah, just go five times a day can become a little annoying Yeah, and then in Israel It's like really annoying because there's more mod people don't realize it but the place is filled with mosques

14:02 I'm hoping everything guys. Um, I have a feeling there may still be a 13 minute thing. I'm paying attention to ping time so if something goes wrong then we'll uh, we'll know what to do with it. 30 minute thing is different. It's way different exactly and told yeah and I said please stop you okay? Do those things sound off So if you're in wherever you are because when I last time I went through the Netherlands I never heard one of those things When was the last time you were here? That's what but two years ago three years ago. Yeah, it's ratcheted up now Not everywhere do they have this but there's big neighborhood meetings about speakers They've had to have theirs and there's neighborhood meetings about the decibel level And how many times and not everywhere, but yeah definitely so this is a hot issue huh

14:58 Yeah, well I would... it should be outlawed. Well anyway- And by the way in the there is a debate within the fundamental Muslim community amongst these super fundamentalists that you can't use the speakers because they didn't have those speakers during Muhammad's era so you have to actually get up yourself under the tower and yell Yeah, literally some of those guys could do it but you only can't do it. Anyway so that was a boost and then it was like but you are against science May I please explain to you what the 97% Oh really? So this is these are smart people No agenda obviously no nor will they ever know of course not ever What was nice is

15:56 One of Willem's daughters is going out, I think semi-engaged to the political editor of the Volkskrant which is... that's the elite you know. I would say one of the best newspapers in The Netherlands and he's a political editor. A young guy, my age actually I think he's 52 And I like him a lot because he's, uh... At least he's schooled on a couple things. He winds up driving me home and I'm talking, we're still on the road it was like 40 minutes. Yeah now I was listening to you and I missed the turn going around the ring We went all the way around Amsterdam. Well, pretty town! All these things that he'd never heard of

16:52 And I asked him, said as the political editor of one of the premier publications daily publications in the country. Surely you took a look at the beheading video? No no and I don't need to watch that. He said well this is exactly the problem because there was no beheading he says yeah it was hope...no go for look at the video there was no beheading And it was nice because it kind of dawned on him that holy crap, he's not doing his job. Nobody is doing their job except the two of us and we're entertainers basically We are doing a comedy podcast and somehow people learn something from us It's very interesting that way I think you deserve a jolt

17:53 Did the jolt doesn't mean anything when I can't catch myself. I'm there is proud of myself for catching There is a system we go on that week story There's something we can hook up, I think through the internet where I could push a button And you could actually get a jolt of energy. I think it's possible probably That would work faster yeah well We should be able to do it to each other to be kind of cool Well, then again you can get into it. So anyway... so now I'm all in. Now like I'm just going to take this as far as I can and we received ...I got a couple.. I know one of them was addressed to both of us saying how can this be this beheading video which way don't actually see the heading? How can this be one of the most horrible things and why is the media playing this up wouldn't it be better

18:41 Since beheadings, they happen everywhere all the time. You go back to David and Goliath you can see biblical paintings! You can go to the Rijksmuseum and there's a David and Goliath with a head holding up by their hair... And this is more art, it's part of history Why don't they cut his dick off or something? That would be much cooler I don't know how cool it would be Well, I went to Google around And did you know that in Mexico, the drug cartels... Oh yeah. No they, they cut it off and put it in your mouth? Right. And they take video of it and it's on the internet! Well there ya go We should invade Mexico to stop these horrible terrorists You see this is just a perspective that you gotta put into people's minds when you tell them that oh damnit Yeah and their right on across the border

19:41 And they take video and put it up online to send a message. What, we're afraid of the Mexican drug cartels? We can just let them get away with that? Shouldn't that be on the news? Shouldn't we be seeing that continuously?" No! Exactly And so you throw that out a couple of times and yeah, and then he got short circuited. It was kind of fun to watch but he's like oh you have to come to the Hague and I want to talk more. So why don't you listen to the show man? Yeah! You don't need to go to The Hague just listen to this show. I do not want to go to The Paper. I don't want to sit there and everyone goes here is the crazy tea party guys.

20:27 Oh man, oh man. Well I find that fascinating! Yeah it was surprising...I was gobsmacked let me put it that way. Gobsmacked? Honk the horn on that one Why? I don't know it's a British-ish britishism that is just not okay I don't never liked it. Oh, then I shall never do it again. You know what? I'm sorry. I've been you ever done before you probably never do it again anyway. He just did it out of the blue because you're reading those papers overseas. You've been corrupted and corrupted is what we managed to do too apparently in the Netherlands and most of Europe with this with these memes but the Koch brothers

21:06 Crazy religious Republican Tea Party. Wanting to control women's vaginas? I mean all of this, John! Every single bit of it! All of it came...it was just wow! Very disappointing. Just concerning and just wow. Just WOW is all I can say. Anyway we have the last day of August. It was an interesting month. We had five weekends in this August which doesn't happen very often And we have a brand new month coming up. We are just three days away from my birthday, my 50th birthday. Yes! Happy Birthday by the way Thank you. We'll be talking about it on Thursday's show Talking about the party that Mickey has been planning for a year I have a feeling it is going to be pretty kick-ass

22:02 Are you still there? It might not be. We shouldn't put all this pressure on the woman, maybe just some little intimate affair with candles. Yeah okay nice remember all I asked for was hookers and blow that's all i ever asked for. You're probably not gonna get that! Oh I hope I do well it seems unlikely... Well you might but it seems to me a poor combination No, but it has a nice ring to it. I think that's the only reason it's ever used. It has a ring but I understand the combo just doesn't go well together after awhile. No they generally shouldn't. I think for the hookers it does. Yeah oh nice shut up! They get a bunch of free blow and they don't have to worry about anything because everything else is good to go. Shot! So this is a month man we have presidential proclamations up the wazoo

22:57 Well, Les before we go into that I want to discuss something with you which is probably not mentioned over there. I heard your thing... But it's big news over here at least amongst the right-wingers Oh okay Obama comes out and does his press conference in a tan suit! Yes, distraction of the week! I have a compilation of..I have a minute long compilation if you want Play it play it This is a compilation of the morning news shows And of course, people who listen to this broadcast know that these things are when these things are done for distraction. And I have the feeling the president had nothing good to say as it turns out he kind of gaffed it with his we have no strategy

23:42 Uh, that was a mistake. That was yeah, that was not done a lot but I think it was all over the map but II don't think the brown suit I didn't, I don't think he expected it to get this real. I don't think he did on purpose. Yeah, nobody. Oh yeah no no he did but uh But I have thoughts on it okay so The first thing I did before I even I showed a picture to make it what do you think she said What the F is I just want to get her immediate fashion response. She said, it's poorly cut. It's ugly! She says it's ugly so that's just... Here is the morning news roundup where the president talked about you know I don't know the guys who behead people and strategy and killing brown people in sand and this is what they talked about. Some presidential critics are saying yes we tan

24:30 Tan. Social media bursting into a frenzy, seemingly very upset over President Obama's decision to wear a light tan suit at yesterdays news conference. President Obama had an important press conference he was talking about all sorts of world issues so of course social media was focused on those world issues right? Of course not they were focused on his tan suit hashtag tansuits started trending I think the president wore it well. I do too and i'm thinking we're not used to seeing him in such a light suit but it is labor day. So you guys like the tan suit? Yeah, he was not really thinking about the color of his suit that he was wearing yeah probably concerned about some other things We all think maybe it didn't fit the way some of his other suits did You are going to like the way you look! He's a really good dresser but I don't think the tan was the problem The tailoring was off

25:16 I love a tan suit. They just need to tuck it in maybe This is supposed to be right at the top of your shoulder and we're going to use Willie as our demonstration This is supposed to be here, like the president would say Here's the way I see it and then I want to hear your thought...I see this as a total tee-up We've got something to say but don't really have anything good to say or we've been caught off guard or whatever it is Something has to happen and the distraction has to come out And believe me Social media people on Twitter and Facebook, they're not sitting there watching C-SPAN waiting for this thing. They're not sitting there...they're watching Kardashians or watching completely different things if the news media then provokes They're the ones that provoke these social media explosion And then they go talk about it blame it on the social media explosion That's the news and I'll talk about anything else but the stupid suit

26:10 Yeah, I think that's probably true. Because they don't really want to talk about anything else because they have no insight and most of them are stupid let's face it. One of the things we have to realize... And they're not even cute anymore! Is their stupid? They're not even cute anymore. If you're gonna be stupid, be cute. I think that this is a breakthrough in terms This is something that should have happened a long time ago. I'm actually sick of these black suits, navy suits and dark gray flannel... Wow! ...suits that make everybody look like the same stooge robot and you said when they went to some going on in NATO meeting or something they showed all these guys they're all wearing exact same color suit they looked like it's no...it sickens me

26:59 to see it. So he comes out in this tan suit, which I don't think was poorly cut. I think it was a different cut for him. He normally wears his tight-fitting Italian style. This was an Armani style cut, which is a bigger cut for fat executives and so it has a fluffier look too but he had those shoulders that just looked like...I would bet money that was an Armani suit. Whatever the case since the president controls In it in political science one you learn that the president is actually establishes social norms, right? So when Bill Clinton says that oral sex is not sex Next thing. You know every teenager in the world is giving blowjobs Which is somehow I missed out on that Well we were too old at the time whatever the case That's your blow jobs are not sex anymore and that's because of Clinton if nothing else. I'm hoping that

27:50 that this tan suit will establish that it's okay to wear something besides these same stupid suits that everybody wears. And we see in the offices in Silicon Valley, they don't wear suits never mind but New York. Maybe in Dockers and blue shirt. By the way I wanna just as an aside so go to this Intel meeting and Intel has got a uniform which is very distinctive And so there's a bunch of guys standing up there and they're all wearing the exact same outfit with just very subtle color variations with the blue shirt usually in French blue yeah, and then khakis Blue Shirt Khaki is blue shirt cash vendors suspenders suspenders. No no God no You can't you know that's what they get That's what the Budweiser guys all had they always had the blue white collar on the Silicon Valley Intel is this really establishes this

28:45 Kaki blue, kaki blue, kaki blue which is a odd combination if you actually think about it. Except the CEO and I've seen this before and never noticed until I saw them all up on stage. The CEO's the same blue shirt no tie black slacks so you have the CEO gets to wear the black slacks. Idiotic! He has distinguished himself as their führer Yes, well anyway this sort of thing is it's nice to see him come out with the tan suit and of course yes It was a distraction Maybe he didn't have as much to say but he never does have anything to say except you don't notice it so much because he's not wearing a tan suit. Well I got three clips from him having nothing to say! I think we should listen to a few just short little... there was short? Okay First I would like to say President Clinton said

29:35 He did not have sexual relations with that woman. And I think what happened is blowjobs became not cheating, I think that's really what happened, it's okay to give out blowjobs... No he actually said something about oral sex isn't sex, not in his testimonies but I believe if somebody does enough research you can find that quote and that was the presidential go-ahead Oral sex is good. He's my hero, a very good man. He has done many wonderful things for the planet this Bill Clinton. Here is the president during his same speech where he... funny enough he did say that the strategy was developing but there was something that I...that was odd

30:19 the way he used a word and it's because you hear this word, you hear the sentence actually followed by a word and it didn't come. Something else came but my brain was already moving along and I don't know if it was intentional seeing that he made some other weird comments that picked him that kind of caught fire. You'll hear it. I am confident that as commander in chief, I have the authorities to engage in the acts that we are conducting currently uh...as our strategy develops My brain went acts of terror! I'm understanding what happened He said, I'm confident as commander-in-chief, I have the authority for us to commit these acts

31:11 that we're doing. Listen again, you'll hear- I am confident that as commander in chief i have the authorities to engage in the acts... Oh engage. ...that we are conducting currently. Engage in the acts? I always hear acts of terror! That's what my brain did. Wow Is that strange? I guess so. I think you're right. I think that subconsciously is what he's saying because it IS acts of terror Yeah! Yeah And he even, I think he was a little apprehensive with what he was going to say. Maybe he even thought oh crap if I said acts of everyone's thinking terror maybe that's what happened? Maybe that's uh because i really felt it that way. I am confident that as commander in chief I have the authorities to engage in the acts that we are conducting currently. Because not even a sentence... The acts that we are conducting currently is like that's a real savor there trying to pull him back

32:08 Here, for those of you who missed it is the big offending comment that came out. In Iraq our dedicated pilots and crews continue to carry out the targeted strikes that I authorize to protect Americans there and address humanitarian situation on ground As Commander-in-Chief, I will always do what is necessary to protect the American people and defend against evolving threats to our homeland. I am confident that as Commander in Chief I have the authorities to engage in the acts that we are conducting currently... Oh sorry did it have this whole thing here? Sorry didn't mean to roll it out again. ...as our strategy develops

32:53 We will continue to consult with Congress and I do think that it'll be important for Congress to weigh in. But, I don't want to put the cart before the horse we don't have a strategy yet rooting out of cancer like ISIL will not be quick." So there you go...we did not have a strategy It was-I think they made a big deal out of it Of course doesn't have a strategy we know this is nothing new so just whatever maybe The tan suit was probably more interesting Except I picked up on this and, um...I have a theory about where we're going and what-where we're headed. And what I believe is next with ISIS. We can route ISIS on the ground! We can route them. Now that's another interesting choice. And I'm so convinced this guy he knows what he's saying. I just don't believe there's room for error because they are so good at coming back and saying see what i told you 30 years ago? This is exactly why this is my quote they're proud of it

33:50 When you say routes ISIS, yeah you can say they're routing them out like that would be one definition of the word but it could also be routing them to a destination. To a place and keep a lid on things temporarily but then as soon as we leave the same problems come back again so we've got to make sure that Iraqis understand in the end they're going to be responsible for their own security and part of that is going to be the capacity for them to make compromises. Any successful strategy though also needs strong regional partners I'm encouraged so far that countries in the region, countries that don't always agree on many things increasingly recognize the primacy of threat that ISIL poses to all of them So the primacy that ISIS

34:44 the threat they pose to all the partners in the region. Now, we had our buddy Wes Clark tip us off about Saudi Arabia and I was thinking of this and I was looking at my maps last night as I often do on a Saturday night—I'll grab my maps or my medical journals—and then looking at the map it's staring me in the face. It's so obvious here is what I think is going to happen We've had this Palestinian Gaza Israeli thing. This is ongoing and it comes, you know the new cycle comes and goes but it's ongoing It pretty clear to me outside of the

35:30 you know, the rockets and the missiles and whatever they've got back in force. But I still have to see some real evidence of this Iron Dome thing doing something other than shooting off rockets that do little curly contrails and go poof! Like okay, I guess it's got something. It's hard to see anything working but okay that just could be show for all I know There are rockets coming in, but the people in Gaza are being killed. Just every single one of them I think that's going to go on they're going to kill everybody just keep going, going, going, going. They have not enough foods coming and they can't pay their civil servants so they have a government it's just you know they have no way to there's no finances...there's nothing is going on except as being rubbleized

36:19 And we've seen this really clearly on television. I think that the reason is, we're about to see a very interesting event and I looked at the news, have been looking in Jordan...I have a feeling that ISIS whatever that is of course they now understand how it works there's 10 20 30 40 100 thousand jihadis from all over the world and they're in every country This is the narrative. They're from and they're in every country, you see? Well yeah right. Of course it's bullshit I know but that's not the point what if...if you look at the map what if Jordan fell to the Saudis there was too much going on there but if Jordan fell to ISIS if ISIS and look at them I have a couple of headlines just for you just from today now that started looking at

37:20 ISIS threatens to invade Jordan and slaughter King Abdullah. Jordan faces new tests from ISIS, gains in neighboring states so... So Jordan is on the map And any American quote-unquote ally and Jordan would be the one because we really don't give a crap about Jordan really You know what do they have? Nothing It's like our bases are there where we train but does Jordan have anything of real spectacular importance to us not like Saudi Arabia Well, there's a lot of history with Jordan. Jordan is an issue within the Middle East altogether because if you go back in time enough the Jordanian king and France who are direct descendants of Muhammad were supposed to be the ones ruling Saudi Arabia right? And they were tricked out of it by the Saud family I guess

38:20 and they were given Jordan as the fallback, is you can have this. I like it, it's almost like being imprisoned. And so there's some agreement that there has to be protected under all circumstances and they can be as brutal as they want or never gonna report on any of it. To let Jordan fall Which would put them right next to Israel, which is a buffer state. It would be it would be a nightmare! That's the point this is the point I'm making that if that happened then and we'll have CNN and I think Al Jazeera

39:02 The reason for this Al Jazeera thing has always bothered me a little bit. We need full-on real time Hollywood coverage of some huge events so we can just with Israel, our special relationship...we can't just decimate everything and uh decimate no that would not be what we would rubbleize everything and really go to town. Now we'd have it all because it's exactly that, the buffer state- Can I ask you something? Stop a second there. Is anything else going on over there because you're breaking up horribly on my side. I don't know. Everything seems to be okay No porn being downloaded? But I'm the only one here Oh okay well... Uh but that doesn't mean there is no porn being downloaded uh but now Okay Do you want me to call you back? Nah I can suffer It might result in you calling back when its a problem

39:56 It would be a new next step, and I'm just...I have a feeling. I am not sure why Wes Clark came in with Saudi Arabia—I'm sure Saudi Arabia will have to…there's a lot of noise about oh you gotta get out of your castle and get out of your palace and do something—it would be a big one! But if that happened then we would see the wrath of God and it would all be Hollywood But it would finally be the whole thing because Israel cannot be left unprotected. And just I'm seeing all this news of ISIS, ISIS internal they're going to slaughter... All you need is enough guys in those black suits with the white really white shoes and the Toyotas and you just double the image enough it looks really scary. Oh Allah Akbar! They're gonna get the palace and then burn the palace and then they install their Sharia caliphate whatever it is and then we go to town

40:58 Why else is the president? This is not my view of it. No, I know but... My view is that we want the ISIS people to be a buffer state between the Iraqis and the Iranians To protect the Kurds and our oil And that's as far as it goes. I think this is going to fizzle out Okay could be Because if anything else happens and we have to do what you described go to town This is gonna ruin the buffer state. We're not gonna every going to have this the Iraqis will be back where they were Well, I'm up against Kurdistan. I see it differently. I think Israel will just expand everything out No, they could can't get away with that They're already retreating hmm. They wouldn't have given up through the Gaza and the West Bank well there's so many

41:52 Well, the West Bank would be something that they take back completely. They have been doing it. The settlements in the West Bank which bumps up against the Jordanian border... I don't know. Sometimes I'm from the future. I feel something's going on." Well if Jordan was attacked by these guys it wouldn't work out for these guys. I mean, I agree all hell would break loose if that happened but I don't know. I just don't see it, because in the scheme of things we're running this show and we want this phony baloney caliphate to be in there shaking their fists at things left and right chopping heads off with a penknife. But we also need some real war! And our buddies are going in and everyone needs to participate in the war machine... We both agree that there's nothing better than having weaponry created and shipped off

42:50 I'm probably not even used. And not a single American soldier will die because we're giving it to some other guys." No, I agree with that in terms of the financing and the financial benefits of doing these things but I think the real bonanza has got to be in Africa. We'll get there...we'll get there. Just listen to who's on board with this. Australia has agreed to join an airlift of military equipment Bananas bitches, let's go! To the Kurds. We've agreed to join this airlift at the request of the Obama administration in the United States and with the permission of the Iraqi government other countries involved in the airlift of military equipment to the Kurds include The United States, The United Kingdom Canada France and Italy

43:46 I also can announce that Australia has participated in a humanitarian air drop to the besieged town of Amalie. Unfortunately, it's all Vegemite! In northern Iraq again... What is this? It's salty we don't need salt in the desert. Mohammed what have they dropped on us?! Actually its'a good thing Andrew, one of our producers sent me a quote from Legacy of Ashes which I wanted to...it's little passage I wanted to share. He says, Adam John, I'm reading Legacy of Ashes at the moment and something jumped out on me that was important to note given our current predicament in the Middle East. The president and this was President Eisenhower said he wanted to promote the idea of Islamic Jihad against godless communism.

44:38 We should do everything possible to stress the holy war aspect, he said in a September 1957 White House meeting attended by Frank Wisner, Foster Dulles, Assistant Secretary of State for the Near East William Rowntree and members of the Joint Chiefs. So this is not a new idea This is us meddling. Yeah, but this is... Let me play a couple of clips from the United Nations. Oh my! Slowly switching to Russia. Is this Samantha? Well I... You got more you gotta punchline to this or yeah I think already... No well yes we have two things going on one is finishing up with Foley We got a lot of notes about ground truth

45:25 And of course, I was looking at the Ground Truth Project. The foundation funded by all these big names that funds Global Post which in turn makes videos for the national public media in the United States and is sketchy as it is. Right? So did you know that James Foley, the so-called beheaded journalist reported and brought back with his team an overseas Press Club of America award for the video of Gaddafi when he got sodomized?

46:03 Gaddafi was sodomized? Yeah, they stuck a like a stick up his butt. That was... Oh yeah I remember when they found him and he was in a tube or something Well that's right but then they found him in the tube and then they sodomized them And then they beat him up there was a lot of question about if that was really him you know it was very unclear So this is another Global Post production. These guys had that video Okay. So he won an award for taking a film of that? Yes, well the Overseas Press Club is it's been around for 75 years have you ever heard of this little drinking club? Isn't it the same as the overseas press association that gives the awards out to Golden Globes or whatnot No no that's the foreign press

46:49 Okay, this seems to be they have a little scholarship fund thingy going on It's the overseas press club foundation and when you look at the if you do a Google search for overseas press club Foundation and global post You see that there's there a lot of money flowing back and forth And again it's kind of you know. They make a They donate money for a scholarship which is in turn, of course the way I see it. The whole thing is a corrupt organization everything is set up so they could then train kids to report bull crap or whatever the message is or just take orders and follow rules and make cute little videos and send them back And then they give these awards to their own journalists Yeah Playboy magazine used to do that So yeah, I find it all too be very sketchy although the organization oversees

47:43 Press Club Foundation has been around for a long time, doesn't mean it's not corrupt. Well you know lot of organizations get co-opted we always have to remember that. Yes co-opter would be the way to look at it and Brian the gay crusader stumbled on something...we have a lot of good people in our global intelligence network He found, he was looking at the names on the Global Truth Project Foundation or the project that fund it. And one is The Bake Family Trust you recall we were looking that way couldn't find anything? This is just the one I couldn't find anything on and they seemed somewhat... this would be the one you'd find something that would be interesting if you could find anything so he did. He must be in love with you!

48:31 Because you said it. I can't find anything." He went, ah, she'll do something for Jean. So first you go Google the Bake Family Trust and it's interesting turns out this is a Dutch guy, a Dutch Australian guy. Oh that's interesting does that ring a bell with that other Dutch guy that has got involved in another operation? Well yeah we'll get to that with that other operation so when you look at this guy now remember Someone's putting money, giving money to a foundation who are reporting on the situation in the Middle East specifically. They really do a lot of the Middle East... That's their reporting where they have their stringers, their freelancers so this guy owns Emerald

49:17 And Emerald is an Irish corporation, majority owned subsidiary of Aqua Ventures. All this is in the show notes which is a United Arab Emirates company so there's you see how kind of the money flows? So it's in the UAE and this Aqua Ventures is 100% owned by The Bake Family Trust now this guy Christopher Paul Bake Has a the aqua sailing team so he's kind of an elitist douchebag kind of like a now. What's his name? The Oracle guy yeah, I Tell us Allison a little bit you know trying to be like him but when you follow his money

50:04 So we followed it back to Aqua Ventures and then Mr. Bake is the sole beneficiary of the trust, The Dominion Fiduciary Trust Limited which is incorporated into Isle of Jersey of course and he is the trustee of The Bake Family Trust no other person or entity holds any ownership over 5%. He has the majority of it and his business is Vital. He's the chairman of VITOL. Do you want me to just give it away or do you wanna guess what a VITOL is? Well, they're a Dubai company Uh-huh And what are they doing? I'm looking Oman trading 3200 employees big ass oil company revenues of $307 billion dollars $307 billion in 2013 and they are funding the journalists in the Middle East

51:06 Yeah, and it's out of the UAE. Thank you! Which of course includes... I don't think they're specifically a UAE country but they're part of the circle of friends which includes Qatar which is very much involved in journalism since they own Al Jazeera. Exactly. Qatar is the one calling the shots on all this stuff in my opinion as opposed to Dubai, where this guy's located. I think there is a connection. Well...I'm just looking at him with $307 billion in revenue in one year. Yeah that's good money! And he's funding the journalist, the operation. Now here's another little interesting tidbit for you since you're kind of...for one thing he's also your age? Yes. 50? Yep. and his other association...Tourette's? His education is from guess what state

51:58 Oh, West Virginia. Texas! Of course! Yeah, Texas. Exactly. University of Texas system. He also gives them a lot of money along with another one that people can look into which I guess it would be...I don't know if it's different than Vital but it's the VTTI Energy Partners LP. I'm looking at his Bloombergs profile. Okay, well that's good. But I just saw the Wiki profile and then Bloomberg would be better I guess So he is managing the acquisition of the Fujiyara refinery, which is a key asset somewhere. He doesn't say where. The Vitals offices are in Bahrain London Buenos Aires and Houston

52:51 That's interesting. Oh yeah, this guy is no slouch! No wonder you can't find out who he is... I'm glad that somebody did some work on this and I should have. That's Brian. Mr. Baker Sturm is a member of the group of VectorVTTI degree in International Business and Marketing from the University of Texas. Y'all Onward to our next shill and then we can slowly move over to Russia, which is very important a lot going on in the Euro land zone. A Dutch gentleman in the Netherlands who I have some history on and And I think it's very interesting to see why he came out with The terror laptop of doom here is its official jingle

53:37 That's what the price of admission. The terror laptop of doom, I must play for you the interview that Jake Tapper had. Oh man, I love me some Jake. Jake Tapper with... where is it here? Hey yeah here it is with Harold Dornbus and I think I should probably tell you about Harold first. Harold Dornbus is a... he got fired from his, I think it was in a newspaper or magazine in the Netherlands. I think they folded him but anyways out of a job and he started freelancing and he is known for going to the Bosnia Herzegovina just grab my notes here there it

54:37 and then it was in Bosnia. He went to Bosnia, Croatia, Kosovo and he went with a couple of other freelancers looking for the... what was the guy's name? The crazy Rajnik? What was his name? Karadznik? you know, like the guy who was running the show there. Where? In Sarajevo in 2000. Oh right yeah those guys! Right and then they got apprehended and were accused of being CIA agents and they wound up writing I think it even became a movie he wrote...I think or co-wrote the book The Hunting Party and there was another Scott Anderson who was with him

55:27 journalist and he wrote an article called How I Spent My Summer Vacation. And that's what the movie The Hunting Party was based on, and the whole thing is that they were journalists running around and they got stopped and said hey you guys are CIA? They said no we're not. He said yes you are! And i have to say when you hear that this is the guy who got this magical laptop He's probably CIA. You know, it's not that crazy that you have people like this. That is the number one job of intelligence is to infiltrate media and here he is with... Right there are half the journalists especially the ones who are caught on the border some sketchy country from the University California Journalism School I'm talking about the people that were caught

56:11 in the Iranian mountains hiking, hiking. Sure you are. And through the to get to where they were hiking they had to go through a minefield as we recall this was we discussed this in great detail three years ago and then of course we had our ting-ting and ling-ling these two dingbats that were caught in North Korea. Ting-ting and ding-a-ling yeah exactly. They're for same thing you know oh it's just an accident we happen to be hiking Right. So this guy, and it's very funny for me to listen to this guy because he's Dutch and I can do the accents very well. I got to tell you we had this crazy, this laptop of doom man! It was just nuts

56:50 Alright, so you're going to hear him talking with Jake Tapper and we're going to pull this guy apart because I can understand the cadence and understand how people talk. It is an ominous indication of what ISIS may be planning a computer that was found in an Isis hideout in Syria as being called the terror laptop of doom And then who called it the terror laptop of doom? Yeah really This guy himself he wrote an article The Terror Laptop Of Doom Good one. Let me see where he did it was well, you know his branding yeah? Oh is very good It's the what what article is this? It was in

57:29 Hold on. How do people... This is kind of baffling to me, how does the media in general buy into this? This is a lock stock and barrel nonsense that terror once they started the branding process it would seem to send off a bunch of alarm bells It seems to me foreignpolicy.com come on this is totally... That's the piece for the accounts on foreign relations right yeah oh this is this is total think tank business here And right there, the exclusive written by Harold Dornbos and Jenna Moussa who is... what does she do? She is the roving reporter of Dubai Based on TV. Right okay fine

58:13 And so this Dutch guy is walking around and it says here his profile on foreign policy, is a journalist based in Islamabad Pakistan. But okay he's roaming around with his buddy Janan, he or she I don't know what it is and then they wind up writing this article in Foreign Policy found colon the Islamic State's terror laptop of doom! And then the subhead here, buried in a Dell computer captured in Syria are lessons for making bubonic plague bombs and missives on using weapons of mass destruction. And with good reason! On it was a treasure trove of- Treasure trove? Oh this is one that... This is completely... Jake Tapper must be... How can the guy sleep?!

59:02 He is reading the script, The Treasure Trove. This is the same words they use when we got Bin Laden a treasure trove on their laptops and it doesn't even have the lab there's a picture of this laptop They only have a laptop because well here's the story Documents tens of thousands of hidden files detailing everything from how to make bombs and rockets To how to weaponize the bubonic plague Joining me is foreign policy reporter Harold Dornbos Yes. Harold, there's a lot of debate here in the US about whether ISIS is a threat specifically to the US homeland but the idea that bubonic plague is possibly in their arsenal it stunning and according to files on this laptop I'd like to know how would they create and launch such a weapon? Now listen very very closely to what is being said here because this is the biggest bunch bull crap you'll ever hear

59:56 Very difficult to say, but they have a manual for it and we found it on the laptop. What I think is very important and what is kind of worrisome are three elements We have basically a Tunisian national chemistry student who traveled to Syria joined ISIS and who carries this manual of biological weapons on his laptop, who clearly has an interest in trying to develop it. Okay so here's the information we have... It came from Tunisia where the Arab Spring started Let's not forget there is a lot going on in Tunisia certainly when it comes to intelligence These are the guys that were sent down to kidnap Stevens in Libya or sent over

1:00:38 And messed it all up. Tunisia is a... we kind of own a lot of the intelligence going on there So this is not, there's no ISIS as far as I know in Tunisia Okay maybe that's new some chemical student with this laptop comes from Tunisia? These three factors make it very worrisome. How far they are, we don't know maybe the guy the laptop owner maybe he's dead we don't know okay so if you don't know who the laptop owner is that the guy maybe he's dead So this is just... We don't know. We know nothing But we know that there's a certain interest among ISIS people.. We don't know who the guy is, how we know he's ISIS? With science background into developing these kind of terrible diseases Yes and you develop these terrible diseases yes it's you know science You must always accept the science The laptop also includes Fatwa

1:01:33 Yes, the fatwa on the laptop. I have a fatwa on my laptop from a radical Saudi cleric essentially justifying the use of bubonic plague or other chemical biological weapons what more can you tell us about that? Basically this Fatwa explains that if you cannot beat the unbelievers to Kufar in some kind of way you eventually can use weapons of mass destruction against them. Yes, this sounds very much like Islam to me! If they don't cooperate, then you can use weapons of mass destruction. Have they developed it? I don't know. Are they currently developing it in Syria inside their caliphate? I don't know. Oh the Caliphate is now already everywhere! How specifically did you come into possession of such a treasure trove... Treasure trove! ...of files on ISIS from this laptop

1:02:34 We found it through a rebel commander who commands moderate Syrian rebels. Who was not named, there's no picture of him... Why didn't he give it to them? They fight against Assad regime but they also fighted at the same time against Islamic radicals of ISIS. They attacked an ISIS safe house and they found his laptop there Eventually we convinced the commander to give us the laptop He allowed us to make a copy of it on our external hard drive and we got 146 gigabyte of material in thousands of documents, 35.000 documents and you know somewhere really worrisome Yeah very worrisome And I have a problem with this John

1:03:21 The problem what I have with this is it was not encrypted and as we know they have the new encryption. For years Al-Qaeda had used an encryption program written by its own coders Do you remember this one? You remember when they had... Good call back on that They called it Mujahideen Secrets Yes And most Al Qaeda affiliates used to scramble their communications Since his introduction in 2007 there has been some minor updates. Then, in late 2013... After the Snowden leaks, the program got a major overhaul. Major overhaul! Why am I whispering? Because it's very very cool that we know... You know they would have put up bullet in that thing anyway but that's beside the point so this thing is either a plant or which i doubt i think its just a whole thing of stage Oh it's totally staged And by the way So im looking at the financial what was the name of foreign what was the name of that magazine Foreign policy Foreign policy Im looking at their blog

1:04:20 And so they have the exclusive found, the Islamic State's Eterra laptop of doom. And there is a picture it says photo of Mohammed S., found on his laptop. Digitized! Why have they did... What is the point of digitally altering? Why?! It's all pixelated. So he doesn't sue people or something like that? Hey, wait a minute. That's me you're showing? What is the point of this?" Yeah because they instead show his picture and put one dead or alive Well let's just listen to the last 40 seconds of this stellar interview This is the biggest crock of crap Luckily the American public is so dumbed down by The Kardashians he can't be outraged Bullshit Is there more that you have yet to read Or at this point have you gone through all of the documents And this is also very well done Because now we have

1:05:12 A treasure trove of documents. It's so close to Snowden, you know it has all these little callback type thingies back and forth here what else do we have? Can we find something some more information that's coming out what else will we have? We've gone through more or less all the documents there are other documents in like how to steal cars Oh no! Fucking ISIS is stealing my car! Fuck my radio man Really? This is very, this is important information. Stealing cars! How to steal car... But listen but the thing is Listen I stopped it specifically He'll say cars because that's probably a document somewhere It says how to steal a car or maybe as a trailer for Gone in 60 seconds the remake and then he then he just rattles off a whole bunch of other stuff Which doesn't sound like he's truthful about it. On through all of the documents pretty much

1:06:06 We've gone through more or less all of the documents. There are other documents in like how to steal cars, they're all kind of related to jihad. Yes! The car jihadi! Stealing cars now related to Jihad So it's like how to steal cars? How to make rockets? How to make bombs? Basically is how to destroy the world How to destroy the world by stealing the cars, man! We take your car and steal it bitch. In short also we found documents of how to get fake passports how to travel from one jihadi hotspot in the world Oh

1:06:44 Wi-Fi hotspot. How to connect it all to the hotspot for the jihadis? To another jihadi hotspots in the world without being caught by the authorities. It's for sure a very interesting laptop that we got! Yeah, no you didn't get laptop he only made copy yes how to destroy the world a chilling summary Harold Dornbos thank you so much for your time Thank You Jake How to destroy the world with these.

1:07:25 resources when car thievery is up in the United States. Could be ISIS! Now terrorism, yeah terrorism exactly but the thing that got me on that clip is the subtle mention of Saudi Arabia again out of the blue, radical Saudi cleric behind the fatwa which brings us back to Wes Clark's little admonishment in Saudi Arabia. So I think Saudi Arabia may be just another target on their back for something to happen there. That's what's going...something bad is going to happen to them. They're removed from everything but

1:08:03 Well, I thought it was just an outstanding move. The headline has been pushed out and grabbed immediately. And it's not even a catchy thing you know the terror laptop of doom...laptop of terror? If we had to make up a headline I don't know, Terror Laptop of Doom? It seems like there's... Islamic State's Terror Laptop of Doom. Seems like it's poorly constructed. I mean it sounds like a crappy headline written by no offense to the editors out there even though none of them listen to this show but this is one of those things and most people don't realize that when you write an article

1:08:42 for a newspaper or magazine, you headline it yourself. The writer does but very rarely does that get used because the editors feel that they must have something to do with this. They must get involved and so 90% of the time the headline is changed to something they like and often unless the guy's talented which is... It does happen there are some talent headlines. We have we have some good ones coming in tablet of terror? That would've been better Tablet of Terror, like even though it's not a tablet. Indiana Jones and the Laptop of Doom That's where that came from by the way Yeah of course They could have done something What is that new Windows device? Can I ask you another offbeat question We have pictures of the laptop but they said they never took the laptop They just took a copy Where are these pictures from? Oh...I don't know

1:09:38 Well, they take a picture of the laptop. Hey can I take a picture of the laptop? Before i get a copy of the hard disk yeah that's what it looks like... before you make a copy at the ISIS safe house which makes no sense because the isis you know let me uh here we go this is so right after a safe house yeah i know right that's just a buzzword we like using it because it's in all of our tv shows so what jake does safehouse with the terror laptop of doom So right after this guy, Jake gets Bob Bear on the honker. Now Bob Bear is our favorite guy. Oh, Bob Bear here we go! It's basically it's the CIA show so we had The Dutch Stringer and I'm calling him but i hope I meet this guy but see if maybe I can find out where he is He's dutch... If he's in the Netherlands Yeah he's at Langley right now getting debriefed

1:10:28 Or maybe some other station and then just bring it even more mi6 for all you know, it's more likely It seems to me. That's a one-two punch You got you got this guy who was the field op and then get Bob bear who was gonna? You know ex smoothed over and of course Bubonic plague no no no no no Isis is much bigger than the ten to fifteen thousand The people we keep hearing, they are being supported. This is much bigger than the 10 to 15 thousand we're now hearing of. Yeah! By the tribes in eastern Syria by the tribes in Anbar province not all them but some of them and by this Sunni middle class and this we're seeing a Sunni uprising and they may not share the ideology with ISIS but they're going to use them until I don't need them anymore

1:11:20 And additionally, they've seized gold. They've got the oil fields around Deir ez-Zor. They've got wheat production. They control a large part of the Tigris River. Who needs a safe house? Electricity generation... Who needs a safe house for their electricity generation? Refineries and I go on... They have refineries John! refinery i'd like to we farms that's it well the sun and on so they are self-sustaining so if we think that the isis is going to go away in six months all by itself i think what were poor badly mistaken well we got your message bob really we understand what you're saying wink wing nudge nudge we get it and the question is if we have to go in and and destroy them which is possible our military can do a high will he take revenge

1:12:06 Against the United States, and I think it's almost certain although they don't have a track record so far of international terrorism. Yes yes yes yes So if we... Revenge! Revenge! Now here's Bob just rolling it out for us Today when I heard the news It was a very very tough day when I heard the news Jake I heard about the terror laptop of Dube and I thought to myself oh man That's a day wrecker. This is worse than I thought! Wait for it... Today when i heard the news, bubonic plague sounded a bit strange to me and I called up an expert who works for the pentagon. Sue shall go unnamed

1:12:49 An expert who works for the Pentagon. CIA said forget bubonic plague, it's... The vector is fleas you know spreading this in a Western European capital of the United States is very remote It's not a particular danger but what they're looking at today Is Ebola. Yeah! Eeee-bolaaa Now you're talking CIA You know you simply put somebody, a victim in a centrifuge Hold on a second. So in other words, Bob Bear and his boys... This other Dutch jerk off he puts bubonic plague in probably because it sounded like Ebola. Yeah because he's Dutch! It was a mistake. What is the Ebola-bubonic plague? We say that it's bubonic plague. Oh great. Oh shite, it was bubona not bubonic plague what I thinking?!

1:13:43 So then Bob comes in to straighten it out. Yeah, I gotta fix Exactly but then my favorite is you put a victim in the centrifuge Mean this is a whole new take of it Just get comfortable with again one of those giant things that spins you around like the day let's go on Happen and all the goop that comes off here. They collect Today is Ebola You know, you simply put somebody a victim in a centrifuge You get the liquid out of it

1:14:20 It's just like making vinegar, John. I mean you should know... Atomize it Wow! You atomize it and And you're good to go Spread it around in a transportation system That's what has them scared Easy It's very easy to do As long as you have a centrifuge to... Go around with the spritzer Would you like a spritz? Would you like a little spritz open your mouth? It's like peppermint And Macy's! Would you like to try the new Calvin Klein? Easy! This is something compromised. Okay, we need to listen that again because I just need to write it down. I can't believe this wasn't on the laptop because that's the instructions you want. That was...I think that was supposed to be on the laptop but Dutch or Kaufmann remember fucked it up

1:15:15 Oh yeah, so Ebola. Yeah this is what it should have been we got the Ebola you grab a victim you put him in the centrifuge which is a whole new take on The Cat In The Washing Machine I really like that has such a good vibe for me. Centrifuge. Back up for a second This is one of Bob's best appearances You know you simply put somebody a victim in a centrifuge you get the liquid out of it you atomize it and spread it around in the transportation system. That's what has him scared. And this, hold on a second... Now doesn't Jake Tapper say gosh Bob that seems a little far-fetched? How do you even do that?! What are you kidding me!? He says that right? Worse!

1:15:59 He doesn't, he doesn't not only does he not say anything Bob says this is easy. It's very easy to do it's very... as long you got a centrifuge and it's something that they're aware of I mean it's extremely alarming and it's very unlikely to happen but it's a possibility Oh pussy! Pussy I agree. Well, and we should remind people that this guy Bob bears an X CIA. Yeah Which you know by some thought it means you never leave until you're still kind working for him Yeah when he's part of the the pundit program which is and he's the punishment part of the pundit program You're laughing that's the real name

1:16:52 Cloud A? It's the real name. It's where they write the books, they got reams of people writing books for you and getting new appearances, writing the scripts for that. Yeah it's called The Pundit Programme, The CIA Pundit Programme and yeah so it's all a part of the big script and Jake Tapper he's just reading the script! He's probably part of the pundit programme too Why not I mean seems like a really good gig It's a great gig. Can you imagine the number of books that I've been promising that would actually get done? You just kick back and order people around. Vinegar book, forget it! I'd have books on how to make anything. What kind of book do we need? By the way there was a good report on PBS if there is any such thing as a good report on PBS or NPR actually they were talking about these people joining which i believe ISIS is also a honeypot because it draws in all kinds of great people

1:17:49 And now there's the meme going around, at least amongst the liberal media. But I mean not the liberal media that is actually liberal but the ones that are actually purport to be liberal...that all these out of the blue converts, Muslim converts who are going there to join ISIS as converts and bringing with them books like... Oh yeah. Jihad for Dummies! Yes! I saw this! Well you'll recall that we talked about... You'll recall that we talked about Minneapolis as a hotbed and of course now we've had this one guy, this 33 year old

1:18:35 who died and his buddy was... so this guy, this McCain Douglas McCain I think his name is he was killed all of a sudden we breaking news breaking news uh the Minnesotan uh Minneapolis i'm sorry Minneapolis guy killed in ISIS but his buddy was and they had this they brought the recruitment video And they were part of the production team for the recruitment video, which is 35 minutes. It's very hard to find this Al-Qaeda recruitment video but it is out there and here's a little package that CNN was running about these two guys. Note the very slight mention that this other kid was killed in 2009 but they make it seem like you know the jihadis are coming from Minneapolis. Minneapolis I will say a lot of KGB in Minneapolis too

1:19:29 According to a friend, Abdurrahman Mohammed is the latest so-called Minnesota martyr. A Minnesota martyr! An American giving up his life to fight with the ruthless terror group ISIS He's well known in the community he was involved in Somali politics for some reason somewhere down the road he changed allegiance to a different set of philosophy Mohammed was killed in Syria where he was fighting along with another American jihadist from Minneapolis. But this is... Very strange that they're putting it this way because this guy who was fighting alongside died in 2009 Douglas McCain while it's still unclear how well McCain knew Muhammad McCain knew the man in this terrorist recruiting video very well Now see, this is where the scripts start to cross over This is where Mike Rogers got his jihadi Disneyland from

1:20:32 You see the same... Oh, that's interesting. That's a good one! You get the same writers and all this stuff or maybe different writers Or no editor at the top and you know it flows over so this is the jihadi Disneyland I believe it would have to come from this recruitment video Troy Castigar and Douglas McCain were high school friends cast a guard who appeared in this training video died in 2009 fighting with Al Shabaab in Somalia in Somalia, but then he was in us in Syria. The whole thing is very discombobulated. be a valuable human being and not finding that. And then I think, you know some of the things that they were told were lies and somethings were truths. I think they felt like they could go help some people who needed help." The fear that a Minnesota terror recruit will someday attack America is a real concern for the FBI investigating exactly how ISIS has been able to recruit. How are people being radicalized?

1:21:50 uh... what methods are being used and what are the logistics behind the travel of some these young men and alice in the fbi here in minnesota estimates that a handful of other young man from the minneapolis area our overseas in syria fighting for isis that's right be afraid while we do what we did was snowed in every vote their passports it's not that hard exactly when we do that am asking you now well because also look at this white and i have There's actually a good article from, is it Harvard Law or Yale about this? Just to bring it back up. We talked about at the time the Yale Law Journal here it is we talked about this Snowden passport revocation and it is not only bullshit but unconstitutional The Yale law journal has this whole article specifically about Snowden

1:20:32 You see the same... Oh, that's interesting. That's a good one! You get the same writers and all this stuff or maybe different writers Or no editor at the top and you know it flows over so this is the jihadi Disneyland I believe it would have to come from this recruitment video Troy Castigar and Douglas McCain were high school friends cast a guard who appeared in this training video died in 2009 fighting with Al Shabaab in Somalia in Somalia, but then he was in us in Syria. The whole thing is very discombobulated. be a valuable human being and not finding that. And then I think, you know some of the things that they were told were lies and somethings were truths. I think they felt like they could go help some people who needed help." The fear that a Minnesota terror recruit will someday attack America is a real concern for the FBI investigating exactly how ISIS has been able to recruit. How are people being radicalized?

1:21:50 uh... what methods are being used and what are the logistics behind the travel of some these young men and alice in the fbi here in minnesota estimates that a handful of other young man from the minneapolis area our overseas in syria fighting for isis that's right be afraid while we do what we did was snowed in every vote their passports it's not that hard exactly when we do that am asking you now well because also look at this white and i have There's actually a good article from, is it Harvard Law or Yale about this? Just to bring it back up. We talked about at the time the Yale Law Journal here it is we talked about this Snowden passport revocation and it is not only bullshit but unconstitutional The Yale law journal has this whole article specifically about Snowden

1:22:48 and that the State Department has no right, you actually have a right as a citizen to means of identifying yourself abroad. A U.S citizen's ability to keep a passport while abroad is a document proving legal identity and citizenship, it is the function of the US passport that the Supreme Court has recognized since 1835 The revocation of the passports of Yemeni Americans is similarly suspect If the US State Department contests legality of their naturalizations Their cases should be brought to court on the claim that there was good cause to revoke their citizenship The cases differ but Snowden's citizenship is uncontested

1:23:28 And, therefore, they have no legal jurisprudence or precedents or...in fact it is constitutionally not allowed to cancel your identifying document for travel. No one will ever fight them on that of course because you know but it's nice to know that it's just bullcrap." Dr. Justin Marchegiani Yeah, probably is total bullcrap but we need to keep some agency needs the keeps Snowden in Russia for some reason or other. Yeah, so he's there. Yes yes like it or not Snowden and there is no assignment There is no actual book called jihadi for dummies No But there was Islam for dummies and that's the book they were with their way. They were Carrying around I thought it was jihad for don't you see Islam of that? There isn't though the Quran for dummies yeah well That's cool

1:24:20 The Quran is easy read. I like the idiot's guide to Islam, corporate religion for dummies five minute guide to Islam there you go! I don't believe any of this of course that they're wandering around with these books Oh please... Why would they report this? It is so stupid If it's agency guys if its just agency guys going over there why not Since you mentioned 33 I do have to read the letter from our friend because I thought this was a theory worth discussing Okay one of our producers mountain vortex Mm-hmm. I was just sitting in now This is a this theory is interesting, but we've always known that the number 33 and if people listen to show long time they don't need to hear this but

1:25:13 33 is always associated with bogus stories that you shouldn't pay attention to. Nothing to see here, this story's either rigged or it's not important or it's been scripted All we know is that when the number 33 shows up there seems to be a correlation between that and something sketchy Hey, I was just sitting here waiting for my Sunday dose of No Agenda media deconstruction. A little light bulb went off over my head Maybe it's not always the brightest bullet ball But it keeps me thinking I'm sure your old-school radio guys would know the answer to this in The Golden Age of Radio before the television came along weren't there some of the syndicated news reports? no most of the most of the shows that radio shows not news reports and

1:25:53 necessarily. News reports could be read by anybody, but things were distributed on radio stations... On a big piece of lacquer that was 16-inch and it ran at a slow speed and it may have been 33 because 33 did come into play according to he did some look looking into this and he said the 16 inch disc with 33 and 1 3rd which is 33 33 33 is 33 forever Speaker 2 15 minutes a side. That's wrong. I don't know where they got that those things used to play a half an hour I used to have them. They were half an hour, if i'm not mistaken they weren't 15 minutes. No. They'd have whole radio plays on and a radio play would run a half an hour yeah And then I think was the reason there was you know everything was divided into half an hour in an hour Anyway those came out in 1930 so he said perhaps annoying use of 33 in today's story is nothing more than a signal To the inner circle that The story is bogative because it's a fake In other words they would play something as though It was live

1:26:56 when they use these things. And you and I talked about this, when you were in radio they used to have these phony interviews... Oh yeah it was just with the everything was cut out all you had you just inserted your question Right, and which was made fun of by the TV show, some... what's it? White... I can't remember the name of it. But there was a mocking... A show that mocked where you'd have all the answers and you ask different questions. Well John Stewart showed us a version of that, of course when they're interviewed. That's a version as a different version as twisted is well done whatever the case is. It's an interesting theory. I like it so bull crap coming in 33 and get the third

1:27:35 Yeah, it's better than anything else we've come up or just as good. It is better than the Masonic thing and all the rest of it. So yeah, actually that's true! It's better than anything we've come up with. There you go. John before we move into the Eurozone I would like to run down this list because there's a very important month September coming up We have of course Labor Day 2014 That will be this Monday That will be the first of September Obviously The President proclaims that officially And we are supposed to honor the legacy of our working women and men who have played a defining role in the American story, and all those who carry forward our nation's proud tradition of hard work responsibility and sacrifice. From assembly lines to classrooms... A little harmonic would be nice. From assembly lines to classrooms

1:28:29 Across highways and steel mills, American workers strengthen the foundation of our country and demonstrate that our economy grows best from the middle out. There you go. Well I thought you were going to say in the morning? No not yet! It's coming it is National Wilderness Month, National Child Obesity Awareness Month... Oh there's a fat kid now well this is Bad someone messed this up because not only is it National Childhood Obesity Awareness Month by presidential proclamation. It is simultaneously National Childhood Cancer Awareness month, I don't think that you should have oh that's terrible they should do that bad That's bad PR yes bad bad It is national ovarian cancer awareness month another conflict of interest and it is national alcohol and drug addiction recovery month

1:29:30 National Prostate Cancer Awareness Month. And then finally, in times of emergency our nation pulls together neighbors support each other communities react with compassion and afterward our country emerges stronger and more resilient but before emergencies occur we must make sure we are ready to respond and it is every American's responsibility to be prepared It's the Boy Scouts marching song. There are simple but important steps we can all take to ensure we know what to do and what needs, or need in the event of a crisis. National Preparedness Month it's Prepper month John is an opportunity to talk with our families friends and colleagues about the risks of our communities and to practice our responses in all the places we regularly visit and it is therefore if fantastic reason for everyone to go get your ham radio license yeah

1:30:29 You- you're gonna- Shaggy Dog, good. But you're gonna thank me later! You'll thank both of us Yes Because it is... It is something very important 10-4 And with that I'd say- 10-4 Hey good buddy yes That's right over Over and with that I want to say thank you very much for your courage and in the morning to you John C Dvorak over It's about time. And in the morning to you, Adam C. Curry and also in the morning all the ships that see boots on the ground feeding their subs in the water and also in the morning to all the dames and in the morning to all the nights out there. Yes, and everyone in the chat room noagendastream.com merci beaucoup for being there and in the morning to our artist Patrick Bausch brought it on for 647

1:31:24 Yes, very good. We had so much art. A lot of good art we're having a lot of good art and we're having it's actually I would encourage you don't want to stop but and with the show that its sex making our postmortem that we do after the show picking this thing doing really in the show finished. It makes it a lot longer. Oh! We actually have long discussion over this art this week Yeah, we did last. It was the Dutch shoes There's for the polder jihadis. There's so much good It's just a lot of good art you guys are doing great, and it doesn't go to waste You know it's documented it stays around its get used in newsletters Cosmo came in and took all his out yeah I don't like that that's not okay But what I don't think that's goodness it was all stolen anyone had to get her off there. That's also possible

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1:36:13 Yeah, he contacted the... Which Grand Duke? You got two. Foley. Foley of Silicon Valley and a grand duke of the entire United States. He contacted Universal Audio and I said you know we're nuts! We should have an entire line of plugins You know, it should be the no agenda show configuration plugins and they should be selling it just like who could do interviews with podcasters. I mean this is what I use. Yeah yeah so simple. So he's still all great. I'm glad somebody well he's the entrepreneur for all from Don Tomaso. I'm just laughing you've got karma. You sent me such a funny email the other day about the conference

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1:41:33 I think it sounds like a boy. I don't know could be that age you can tell really when they're screeching yeah, just when there's screeches I Didn't have an idea for your book by all right we have an email here we have Marco Strauss in Ithaca New York 264 and i am going to take a little time out oh Didn't notice this earlier. Can I do a little dance? Yeah, do a little dance make a little love get down tonight Hey now John C Dvorak very good

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1:42:53 Well, sometimes drinking helps to get shit done. This is a very delayed World Champion donation. Delayed because I had to wait until the security deposit for my last apartment was finally returned. I'm German! But living in the US for almost five years now, viking here and sciencing stuff with great pleasure. And my only remaining attachment to Germany is football. Yes soccer sad but true maybe not so not so sad. So Germany made 17 goals during the last World Cup and won four World Cups in total seven team times four equals 68 bucks. Are you still drunk? Striker Miroslav Klose broke the all time record for the most shot

1:43:36 goal 16 and play for World Cup. Sixteen times four is 64 bucks number of world class hosts in the best podcast in the universe to therefore 68 plus 64 times two, 2 or 64 bucks does it make sense? Who cares also as a side note eight times 33 is 264 he's really coincidence who cares please get a karma shot so that I can get funding we need so I can keep the best job I ever had Otherwise, I'll be unemployed and deported back to Europe which i don't want for all the several reasons but also because as you certainly analyzed past thursday europe is fucked

1:44:16 Also, can I get a get laid by a hot chick karma shot because I really would like to get laid by a hot chick Thanks so much continuing the great entertainment and analysis and Cheers Marco You've got karma Not as drunk sounding as he might Ben well no, but it whenever someone does that like 132 times 2 is 264 there you go That's really drunk when you're doing that always get that kind of craziness Bryan Ferguson by the way $250 from ranch a foothill Ranch in California impressed on how your previous coverage on ISIL ISIS and whatever else they call it prepared me for the current bullcrap It is like an actual wag-the-dog scenarios happening And you told us ahead of time

1:45:11 After listening to DH Unplugged, I want to hear John C. Dvorak pronounce El Pollo Loco. That cracked me up! You guys are doing great work. Give me a Boom Shakalaka Karma. Which boom shakala should we do now? The regular one. The regular one...I'm all in on little gunshine. I wish when we wanna be rolling out... You've got karma. Maybe we should just, uh... Ah, just for good measure. Boom shaka laka! Boom shaka laka! Bingo boom shakalaka Sir Dr Sharky, our buddy in Jackson Tennessee $202-$200 and two cents This will be our final associate executive producer for show 648

1:45:58 Dear SpongeBob and Krabs, Mr. Krabs as a professor of family medicine one of my most important jobs is to teach human resources how to be effective family medicine physicians after hearing your discussion of moral licensing I've decided to introduce the concept into my lesson plan. Moral self-licensing he doesn't say that but it's moral self licensing yeah moral self licensing that's what it is I have a patient suffering from a worthy disease. I will walk her into the hospital room, announce how much I support her cause and then pour ice water on my head and walk out." Problem solved! I'd like some you-will-obey mac & cheese karma please thank you ITM Dr. Sharkey

1:46:48 Okay, which does he want the combo you will obey mac and cheese. Do you think or just I think so yes? okay, um Just a little Little small small here You will obey you will obey you will obey oh You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheese shatter melt together. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Living the mac and cheese life! Mac n' Cheese by Ayn Rand There you go. Woo! Is there karma in there? I didn't hear it Oh no, I'm so sorry

1:47:34 I'm a fool. You've got karma. We did have, uh... What do we have? Something about moral self- Oh yeah! By the way, I like the idea that he presents somebody says something to you that you dump the water on your head. Can you imagine going into a doctor's office and say something and then brings out a bucket of water and dumps it on his head? You're cured!! You have no fear!!! Have you seen this email going around? Which is, it's interesting to me because this never works and I'm not quite sure why people are doing it. When this started off the first thing I did was went to the ALS association and got their form 990 to see what their finances were.

1:48:22 I think they have $19 million continuously in the bank, you know. And their typical fund awareness driving organization and yeah...I find it disgusting too that the CEO makes three hundred and forty thousand dollars a year. It may seem to you know then that's just the base that's without any so probably closer to half a million but okay it's fine now but what's not going around is and you can get from there the report that even if you don't have to calculate from the 990 but 73% of all donations are used to fundraise and for overhead executive salaries. So less than 27% is actually going to the research. But you have to understand this is... It's common! Yeah, we don't want all the money going into research because we might cure it and then we wouldn't have a job. You would lose your job? And what else are you gonna do?

1:49:12 And by the way, I guess they did try to attempt to copyright or trademark Ice Bucket Challenge. Oh really? I didn't hear about this! Yeah and it was rejected...or no they dropped it because they were getting bad feedback you bastards! But the thing that gets me is people this makes no sense do you think anyone gives a shit About what these people make. I mean, I just remind you of Haiti Okay We raised six billion dollars for ALS so it's good Haiti six billion dollars we had Clooney we had concerts everyone were texting our money. We had three presidents Three three! We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water Just send your cash known fact that billions of these dollars are gone

1:50:03 Gone, stolen. Well they're not gone, they're in Clinton's pocket! Well yeah, they've been used differently and the Haitian people have cholera. No one cares. I think it is genuinely warming that you continually bring this up and this is something that mainstream media doesn't do When we do it because we believe there's a bunch of memes and things out there that need to be, people need to be reminded over and over. Because it's the news cycle the way it is. And these things you need to be reminded about this because this is scams, its ongoing scam! It's not like it went away. Its not like the Haitians are all everything fine hunky dory they're still building hotels and letting people die of cholera. The UN was sued over it and the UN says ah screw ya so we don't care if

1:50:53 made it happen there. But it shows you once someone writes the moral self-license, they don't care that people are done with Haiti. I texted my money... I texted my $10 dollars. I changed my icon. I did my bit. They hate me! They do not care. Yeah that's the problem with the internet and if and if you actually go around saying well these guys are scamming the money you will be ridiculed and accused of being petty So I'm not going to do that. I don't want to receive any scorn for what is your self-licensing and we don't need scorn, but don't need anymore score on his out in ALS this is this is who this is that's a Dutch uh but I'm sure you can understand what it means

1:51:38 What do you think that means? I want to remind people that we do have a show coming up on Thursday. We work through the holidays and holiday weeks are usually pretty slow so if you would be so kind as to contribute or donate or help us for show 649 49 It'd be Dvorak.org slash NA, ChannelDvorak.com slash NA as an alternative also NoAgendaShow.com has a link and so does No Agenda Nation And to imprint it into your mind we have a catchy little jingle Also all we need is a lot of people going out there doing important work propagating our formula Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth Shut up Slavey

1:52:31 I have a letter that came and i want to read before you get on to part two of the show. I'm just gonna do A quick ALS thing just to piss you off, but what would it be? I'd rather go ahead and piss off. It says here your most recent place of employment was red lobster. Kinda patted that one

1:53:10 Have you ever cared for someone suffering from a major degenerative illness? Not really. Okay, well it was young lady... What did you mean by not really? This woman is a psycho! This is the trailer for the brand new Hilary Swank movie which has been ready to release for several months and God wouldn't ya know what its coming out now where she has ALS in the movie You're Not You is what we call that. Hey, ALS is hot let's release the movie now! Yeah this is how it goes. I told you all things are scam in terms of public relations. ALS is real but anyway so here comes Lauren Smith she writes and because of...I think feeling guilty over your

1:53:58 concept that there's a social...it's an illness, the sickness. The Facebook liking and the selfies and all the rest." And you get this note. National health crisis? International health crisis exactly! I'm ashamed to admit this but from what..this is what my phone looks like. A picture was sent of the phone and by the way i want to get this background. It's all smiley faces. It's actually quite funny with organized folders no less Yes, this is a good representation of most of my friends' phones as well. As someone still in school I know the...I don't know if Lauren's a girl or boy probably guessing female but Lauren also is non-sex name

1:54:42 Like Pat. At school, not in school which is interesting I know the Facebook thing is just liking a selfie of anyone on my feed as also the main arguments between others are in my form or don't you like my picture? Or why haven't you followed me? Or what do you mean your not on Instagram I think you have to say it. What do you mean? You're not on Instagram that's a more like that, I think what do you mean? What do you mean? You're not an instagram In the summer holidays so all my social media is full of people's pictures from holiday It is integrated into our minds that as soon as we see something No matter what we have to take a picture of it Yep

1:55:30 Anyway, that was... So the social pressures are on these kids. She's in school he is in school and she I'm sure it's a female and yeah this nightmare. There's a Facebook at all you don't have any of these issues. In the show notes There's a link to the MIT technology review article evidence grows that online social networks have insidious negative effects. Yeah, insidious no less. Send that to Mimi You know why do you want me to do your dirty work? Because I'm a fool to do your dirty work No more yeah well there's a follow-up to that I can't remember what the line is So what we have and I use the word so

1:56:20 is a couple of clips that I like to get out of the way. We do have the thing that I think's most important to you... And I'm surprised he didn't bring it up right away. Well, I have some reason for that and this would be... Okay well you're gonna give it to us but let's play the beginning of which is Ashton's out! Yep she's out The original goal of that meeting on Saturday was to fill several top EU posts Leaders chose Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk as the next European Union President to replace Herman von Brompuy Tusk is the first Eastern European to hold such a senior post in the bloc and is known as a tough critic of Moscow, especially with regards to Ukraine. Catherine Ashton will be replaced by Italian Foreign Minister Federica Mogherini who was named as the group's new foreign policy chief May I do something that we are very good at here? The best podcasting universe...I would like to correct the mainstream media

1:57:17 with the pronunciation of the new president of the council. It is not Donald Tusk. Donald Tusk, Tusk, Tusk is how you pronounce it. Yeah no Donald Tusk is they that's what was in House of Cards. So that's what they're calling it. So let's play part two and we'll listen to a little bit about this Mogherini woman, who seems sketchy if you ask me. After a hectic five-year term Catherine Ashton hands over the reins to her replacement Federica Mogherini is to become the European Union's new foreign policy chief. Federica Mogherini will participate in hearings in Parliament and will take up her role on 1st of November

1:58:06 when the new commission starts. Hey, he also might found a laptop you know? Yet just two months ago she had seemed to be out of the running at the last EU summit Eastern European and Baltic countries rejected her nomination criticizing the 41 year old for lack of experience and a soft stance against Russia A position she has since adapted arguments swept aside by social democrats pushing her candidacy She's young, but she already has experience. She is the Minister of Foreign Affairs in her country and deals with unfortunately the same crises that we're facing all over the world." Federica Mogherini has been Italian foreign minister for just six months under Mattia Renzi's government

1:58:58 Matteo Renzi, whose support added valuable weight to her nomination after he himself scored more than 40% of the votes in the last European elections. When I say it, but this woman is a little better looking to say the least than chinless Ashton. The Chin-less wonder who had to do her interview twice because she failed the first time to get the gig yeah. She's dumb. This woman how does she...she has no experience essentially? She got six months in office in Italy Who did she blow? Okay well here's the analysis

1:59:49 Okay, I'm back. Here's the analysis. I mean am i being rude when I say that? No it's not a matter of blow this is how the European Union works and what this is also a political correctness cultural Marxism the leftist nut jobs who run most of the world This is how it works Now, Hela Thornson-Schmidtchen the selfie woman with President Obama who I really thought was the shoe in would have received would have gotten the gig. The Heiko Hermann gig

2:00:29 But a couple things changed. And of course, we know that the real important job is Juncker the drunk who is now in...and he's running and he's the real president. Yeah, rhymes with drunkard. Yeah, Junker the drunk. The problem is Russia and we need to have the EU really be anti-Russia and our man Donald Tusk who is completely wrong for the job. His English is crap, he speaks no French... He's great at German

2:01:07 But if you want this job like Heiko Hermann, you know, you got to have some skills in French. It really is the political language of the elites in the European Union. Always has been. Yeah and so that's... Used to be the political language of England actually during Elizabethan times. Oh yeah! Now just as a side note there is good news um of course I was very upset you know, knowing that Haiku Herman's term was coming to an end and you know he wouldn't have all these great haikus. Yeah I miss it well luckily Junker is a singer oh this woman is a singer no no no sorry uh Tusk isn't singer? Well he likes to sing Oh No! Hey Jude don't make me mad take a sad song

2:01:59 That's him. All right, I mean, I would give you a clip of the day for bringing that one out of the blue. That's a good one. Good one! Okay so continue with your analysis sir So we needed Someone who hates Russia. We we need to... Yes, in fact they mentioned with this woman she was a pro-Russian and then she redacted it. Uh huh yep but because we needed the TUSC guy who hates Russia to be in there so we can start the war with Russia whether it's by proxy or not uh we couldn't have Helen Dornsen sexing the city lady

2:02:41 So we needed a woman to add. We need one plus one, one man and one woman. She is more left wing Tusk is conservative slightly right-wing so in the politically correct bullcrap world of Brussels that's why they had it. You don't think it had anything do with blowjobs then? If I were on the committee, I would still tell her that the blow job is necessary for her to get the gig. I mean, I would not say you're good to go now. Am I going to get notes from some of our female listeners for making this assertion? No, I don't think so because if you look at what Katie Couric said...was it Katie Couric who wrote a book and said that Diane Sawyer blew people for interviews

2:03:30 Mmm, yeah that was this some mainstream bullcrap news. No it's just one way getting an interview Yeah, so this is a big. This isn't important. Yes I just imagine yeah This I'm must feel lewd today. Yeah, so I'm kind of like you like this III'm imagining the interview with Diane and and the interviewers kind of staring at her as she's talking Wait first, he's drunk. She's drunk. She stays interviewing him And he's staring at her and then he lifts his hand very slowly to the corner of his mouth it and kind of wipes it As an indicator that she might She's drunk

2:04:19 Sorry, I am so sorry but this is a holiday weekend. You know sometimes I get a little nutty It's okay Have you been drinking? Are you drunk? No! I wish I was Okay There is some... A lot of tea as a matter of fact There are some very important stuff going on in the Eurozone This is all... Let's stay with the Russian subject Well that what I'm saying Russia is the Eurozone Alright Go on Hit it First, in this bogative Ukrainian government they captured some Russian soldiers who had snuck into the country across the border as proof. As proof everybody! Proof is...

2:05:12 And I want you to listen to this for a moment. Evidence is mounting of Russia's stealth invasion of Ukraine Ukrainian security forces have released images and video of soldiers who they have identified as Russian paratroopers operating in Ukraine's east 10 men identified as paratroopers from the 98th airborne division based in central Russia were detained near the village of Zirkalny about 50 kilometers from Ukraine's eastern city of Donetsk Ukrainian forces released a series of videos in which they questioned the Russian soldiers. How did you end up in Ukrainian territory? We rode in a column, not along the roads but through the fields. I didn't even see where the border was." A Russian journalist released a screenshot of a conversation over social media in which he contacts the wife of one of the soldiers who identifies him as a member of the Russian armed forces and says that he was sent by the army. Okay so a couple things here one again with the social media as proof

2:06:16 Again, as proof. And what happened here is a direct and clear and well-known violation of the Geneva Convention relative to the treatment of prisoners of war. Prisoners of war must at all times be protected particularly against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity that it's a breach of the convention prisoners of war on television to partially humiliate them but to make them a curiosity of the public. It's a violation! And no one says this, NO ONE. No one says anything. Well this is also true. Let me play

2:07:06 I did have, I thought there was a good back and forth between your buddy Samantha Power. Yeah, I can't listen to her but when you do a clip... You are now in charge of Samantha Power clips? Samantha Power! Well you know, you and Rachel Maddow, Samantha Power. She's like an hour and 30 minutes this woman is talking. I can't listen to this woman Well, this one here is not an hour and 30 minutes. This Samantha Powers on Russia's which I believe if you listen to it this is what she said. This is just like the day before yesterday. On Thursday the US and Russia had... Stop stop stop! All right? I'm only pointing this out because didn't doesn't she just say this constantly? This is like a repetitious monologue

2:07:47 That, I think it's interesting to hear the retort from the Russians. But play — place power, sorry. On Thursday, the U.S. and Russia had a heated exchange in the United Nations over the situation in Ukraine. U.S. Ambassador Samantha Power accused Russia of duplicity. Instead of listening, instead of heeding the demands of the international community and the rules of the international order at every step Russia has come before this council to say everything except the truth. It has manipulated it has obfuscated it is outright lied so we have learned to measure Russia by its actions and not by its words

2:08:24 In the last 48 hours, Russia's actions have spoken volumes. Putin! And she should also say that Ukrainian government cannot violate the Geneva Convention by putting out the prisoners of war for public curiosity Well, she's not gonna say that. The Russian ambassador gives a nice retort that I think is somewhat funny. Samantha Powers' Russian counterpart Vitaly Churkin blamed Ukraine for escalating the situation by not honoring political agreements He also advised the White House to stop meddling in world affairs

2:09:03 Now the American ambassador said what kind of message can we send to Russia's neighbors? Well, I would suggest that we send a message to Washington. Stop interfering with the internal affairs of sovereign states. Stop trying to undermine a regime that you don't like. Restrain your geopolitical ambition. Then not only Russia's neighbors but many other countries around the world would breathe a sigh of relief." I'd breathe a sigh of relief if I was in either country. Well, you want to do more or can i get into some analysis here on this? Because I'm reading the papers and seeing what's going on... Yeah go ahead! You must have a different perspective but I just wanted to get a few background things out of the way before you do that because I might be able to play these afterwards

2:09:55 There's a guy named Jonathan Steele who was a Guardian reporter that was stationed in Russia, and he's one of these guys who seems to be a straight shooter. No no no He's a top 40 disc jockey Jonathan Steele! Hey everybody it is Jonathan Steele here this morning how you doing? We got some hits for you today. Jonathan Steele with weather and news on the 8th It's definitely the right name But no, this is a different one. This is the stuffy guy So you I don't think he can handle top 40 to be honest about it But there's a couple of yet He was on democracy now also and he had a few things to say that I thought were interesting And this is the your beats democracy now as John's beat

2:10:36 It's—I wonder, I think—which is the best? This one. The one that I think is the most interesting is the media coverage clip... OK. ...which I think we have to—everyone has to pay attention to. And, Jonathan Steele, what do you make of the media coverage in the West or the lack of media coverage over the carnage and the civilian casualties in eastern Ukraine as a result of the Ukrainian forces advancing? Well, I mean, I'm very glad that in your report at least you put in the point that the U.N. has come out saying that 2,600 people—civilians have been killed. That's more than have been killed—were killed in Gaza by—in a recent month-long Israeli offensive. It's a huge humanitarian disaster and crisis going on there. It's hardly ever mentioned in the Western media. These are U.N. figures. And as you also pointed out correctly, the U.N. says the majority

2:11:31 of those casualties are caused by the Ukrainian army against civilians, because they are trying to capture huge cities—Donetsk and Luhansk—where there are hundreds of thousands of people. Many have fled but there's still hundreds of thousands remaining. Now Russia tried to highlight that whole issue two or three weeks ago when it sent this a humanitarian convoy from Russia into Ukraine. And what happened? The Ukrainians immediately said, this is the pretext for an invasion—this is an invasion! The Russians then allowed people to look into those convoys. The OSCE looked into it. Ukrainian border guards looked into it. Western journalists looked into it. There was absolutely no sign of any military potential at all. It was simply humanitarian supplies. And eventually, it was allowed in—well, it wasn't allowed in. The Russians drove it in because the Ukrainians

2:12:20 refused to give the paperwork that was necessary, even though it was in no way military. So Russia was trying to highlight... Putin! No he was invading this has been the narrative here thousands of they've invaded right on with the so-called prisoners of war and now Russia they tricked out their trucks and there were not filled with food it was a Trojan horse? A Putin horse?! I'm very happy that in Europe there, especially in the Netherlands that they're going along with our program. That's great! Well yeah... Hey NATO we're all part of the same happy family you can't move away from that. Nooo! Fantastic. Just a little checkmark Holland good to go All-in it's the most

2:13:18 morally bankrupt government I've ever seen in this country. It truly is. That's great! And they're on vacation from July to November Oh, when in July? Because in France they go on vacation from July 15th Bastille Day until...or the 14th. I can't remember. Fourteenth and then they take off all the way to September 1st which is a really nice holiday and the whole country shuts down. Very difficult to travel there in France during that era or that period. And I believe the Dutch government has it all of September most of September off. That's what the political editor was telling me now you know

2:13:54 We don't have a lot to do. I said, there's nothing going on in the world politically? Yeah... Everyone is on vacation! Okay?! I said Elizabeth Warren that blew his mind too by the way A couple things that have been discussed here they may so there was a meeting between Putin and Poroshenko and this was not played up very big in America Are you...is that a candy wrapper? They did play this. This was played a little bit. Briefly, yeah. But it was mentioned they didn't say any analysis. No of course it's mentioned you can't deny it they have to show the B-roll. Well they don't mention anything about the slaughter of these poor civilians much. No because none of its relevant because that's not what any of this is about obviously

2:14:53 Now, right now we have Merkel, Hollande, Cameron, Tusk. We need more NATO troops! More NATO troops! More NATO, more NATO, more NATO... That is what the mission is here. We need to get in more. We need to really start some form of war with Russia and the stupid Europeans are going to have new sanctions that are now being discussed. Merkel and Obama discuss new sanctions, now it doesn't matter that much to Germany and this is what I think certainly our European listeners need to understand there's one thing that

2:15:34 that Putin has on his side and the EU does not have. It's called winter, okay? Winter is coming and you're going to need your gas for a number of reasons now gas is not just gas to heat your home but gases is power energy electricity it's for your Tesla people this isn't by the way there are so many Teslas in Amsterdam with free parking spots its infuriating huh yeah there's energy-free plugs Two cars to a bay and every single one is occupied by Tesla. What an interesting marketing scam. Yeah, I just want to key that shit so of course now but it all but you know saving the world. Saving the world! So Yatts & Uke has now come out and said that right after this meeting yats you know the yats the Victoria Newlands boy there yats... Hold on a second stop he's still in there he's still i know he's still there stop

2:16:34 I just had to stop you because i'm thinking now if are we subsidizing because the American public is giving him 35,000 bucks a car. Yeah! Because of this yeah are we subsidizing the cars now that are in Holland? Of course so the American public yes Fine, good. That's great! Go on sorry... Well it is the American system if you got money you get a parking place It is very hard to find... You cannot buy a parking spot in Amsterdam. It is very costly to buy a full time pass and people they try and find spots and move around I don't think they have the boot anymore The boot used to be really bad but we could find and they tow you And its always been horrible But Amsterdam? Its a bike city

2:17:19 And then there's the a-holes with the big ass Tesla sucking off free energy from the little pole with a free parking spot. That's so wrong! Yatsenyuk said Russia is going to cut off the gas to Europe this winter and Russia isn't doing anything but, and I've learned a little bit as I've been studying this for the past few days... Okay you have to call me back I can't take it anymore Oh sorry I wonder what happened there honey No wonder he's cranky. I hate it when John gets cranky, he's never nice when he's cranky. Seemed like an analysis actually need to hear all the words yeah oh thank you was it really that bad the whole time? You've been living through all that? Oh I'm so sorry is it better now? Is it getting better? Yeah it's fine right at the moment strange just need a different route well just if it happens again let me know and we'll call you back immediately yeah okay go So Yatsenyuk says Russia's gonna turn off the gas

2:18:23 I have learned a lot about how the gas works. This is not a continuous flow it turns out What Russia, Gazprom I should say has done is they've turned on the gas and a lot of it is stored in Ukraine. And a lot of this is stored at different storage points now one of those is here in the northern part of The Netherlands where they take what the Huss Uni used to own as the big that's where all their gas came out if they put it back in the ground so there's now gas that is pre-stored for several months The problem is, so Ukraine...again it's not like gas is continuously flowing from Gazprom all the way through to the Netherlands or the UK where there's also storage. They run stuff they run as much as they can and stored in these spots and then from the storage it moves on because the compressors don't run all the time. It would be very inefficient

2:19:15 So Ukraine now has a big storage and what they've been known to do in 2000, 2006 2009. They steal the gas and don't pay for it And they keep doing this and that is not their gas, they have not paid. Russia has not... Gazprom has not given Ukraine any more gas because they are six billion dollars behind in payment but there is gas in Ukraine for their customers to be sent off to Europe It's important understand so it's here, its sitting there and of course Ukraine is not going to get any gas for themselves So they will siphon off and steal it

2:19:56 which will put most of Europe in certainly an economic hassle. I don't think they'll run out, it depends on how cold the winter is and with global cooling it could be pretty bad but... It won't...it'll just be more expensive that's what always happens just the way the market forces are but here is the interesting thing The Nord Stream which is where the other half of Gazprom gas goes flows That's what flows past Norway, past Poland. Not through Poland but on their territorial water it's underwater this thing and... What was the first country you said? I think is Norway or Finland? No no no! It wouldn't be it Let me see. Yeah could be wrong. I want to check now Are sure wasn't Norway? You asked me so let me know lets do it Nord Stream

2:20:56 So it flows through, I've got it here. And these things are new this is from 2011 you know? Finland, I'm sorry past Finland yeah that would make sense. Past Finland across the Baltic Sea and it goes right into Germany This is where...this is why we spy on Angela Merkel She has a direct pipeline from Russia into Germany and there goes into the Opal Pipeline. This is the one that's interesting, the Opal Pipeline another consortium but it runs from north to south in Germany and connects to the distribution pipeline which goes into Europe after they take whatever they need

2:21:41 And this is, so you have all the Netherlands is in this and everyone's got pieces of it and even the Italians. But this transit is not susceptible to any taxes but they can choose...they can charge any fees they want to get into the system to any country that wants gas from them. I find this to be very funny as Angela Merkel is now helping to decide that gas effectively will not transit through Ukraine at all, and that probably Ukraine will start stealing it just because of more sanctions. In the meantime butter cheese dairy or all dairy products flowers are rotting away

2:22:28 rotting away because Russia will no longer take these products. So it's really, it is economically hurting the EU more than it is Russia even though I don't know the Russians that they can take a lot but Angela has got everything she needs and she's going to be in charge She is in effect Russia! She IS Russia and no one is seeing the obvious scam that's taking place where they're going to control Germany, again is going to control everything. And I think that Ukraine is...it'll never become NATO it can't not while they're in the have a...while they're fighting or unless they change the rules I guess but has no advantage just stop everything flowing through there The pipeline, the Nord Stream can really compensate and they can really ratchet that up It's a big pipe

2:23:29 They can pass a lot through it and then maybe they'll get the South Stream running, which is... The EU is now blocking that themselves like a bunch of idiots. Well we're telling them to do that! Yes well yeah and yeah that seems as though they are a bunch of idiots And the EU and the people do not understand that while everyone's sitting there yelling about... Their own governments are screwing their economy. It's going to be a disaster and it will happen this winter because when energy goes up, that's the basis of everything you know? It's not just oh my heating in my home

2:24:17 No, no. It's everything is from the cars on the street to the little poles that feed free electricity to Tesla's right to the companies mate manufacturing products of the chicken plucking machines in there and the Netherlands And everything in between and what do we just do? We just read lights. We just Streetlights We just made the president of Europe a guy who hates Russia course The Polish should hate Yeah, Russia by the way Of course, because it's always Poland that gets screwed. You let them take over the place? Well you know I think that Putin is just going to sit back and wait and he's just gonna wait for the winter to come and yeah i think he's gonna be all oh I hope it's a real cold one um but this is...I think people should be rioting in the streets right now about this policy

2:25:08 But all they're being shown is the Russians, there'll be a...the Russians are coming. They're in Ukraine and thousands of them have snuck in. They're killing people! They don't care! They just want to kill! They hate NATO! They want to create all the states and then want to recreate the Federation! And they're being lied to by their government and the media is tied right in. That's another thing that I discovered with Remco, the political editor he said did you hear about the Dutch public broadcast system which has three television stations? And they were called Nederland 1, Nederland 2, Nederland 3

2:25:45 Netherlands 1, 2 and 3. They have now changed their name to NPO 1213 which stands for Nederlands Publieke Omroep or Dutch Public Broadcast Channel 123 and I said I know exactly why this is happening as we know from the tolerance documents guidelines The entire idea is for all public broadcasting to be run from central EU home base. And the first thing you do is denationalize it by taking the name of the Netherlands out." Yeah, this reminds me of the crazy stuff that the EU was doing with jellies and jams

2:26:23 where you couldn't put the country of origin on some of these, which is really hurting certain... Like in Finland and Germany there's this certain areas. It looks like we have in the United States a Pacific Northwest Olala berries or whatever. Some berries that grow in this specific area so they're very good and you need to know that they came from there but they're doing stuff like that it's very disturbing I just heard that the poll in Amsterdam is not free. Or, saw it in the chat room...I'd love to know how much it costs? It can't be really expensive." Oh! But it's still only the Tesla guy with your little smart car. Well, the parking spot sounds like the winner. Yeah. In Finland right now there's Russian cheese for 5 cents in a supermarket. I'm sorry you have to say that again.

2:27:11 In Finland, you can buy Russian cheese. It's not... I can't hear a word you're saying. Okay. Sorry! Yeah no, I'll call you back. No problem. Very interesting why is this happening? Everything okay with the stream right we have no problem there You know, it's almost as if that buffer that was disconnecting us every 15 minutes is now just deteriorating the line. Because you sound great at first and then very slowly... Yeah I'm seeing a seven...I'm seeing big packet loss on my outgoing...oops it just went down okay I'll pay attention to it. I don't know let's see I'm seeing 7% packet loss going out so it's on my end. I don't know Do you hear me at all now? Anyway Oh! You got me? Hello? You hear me?

2:28:01 I can't hear a word you said. You can't hear a word i'm saying? Hmm, okay what should we do about that? Do you want to switch your network see if we get a better peering uh...I could let's do that yeah try that! I'm on Comcast now but let's try something else Yeah, are you switching on the fly right? I'm going to switch to another guy this takes a second unfortunately but doesn't take that long adapter settings and will unhook the wireless disable

2:28:40 Enable because the show stream is good, and that's going to come back on the other network. Okay? You will it's like nothing change you hear me Yeah Wow that was a that was slick It says pretty interesting the way I can do that on the fly you are a magician whoo Okay, I was saying that in Finland you can get Russian cheese which isn't Russian cheese But has Russian packaging because it's meant for the export for five cents or something Oh That sounds this is the time to stock up. I know what butter actually butter is the same butters the same yeah butter You can freeze ah it freezes beautifully cheese not so much now, but you can freeze butter I just buy I'd by years worth of butter and freeze it um

2:29:31 So that is what people in Europe... Meanwhile, keep yelling about the Koch brothers everybody here. Good job! Good work! Stupid idiots! So the rest of the clips I have from this character Jonathan Steele Yeah The big 9-10 He has a bunch of theories 9-10? He says that They're all the Russians are the ones that keep calling for a ceasefire. Yes, but the Ukrainians they want to have some sort of military victory that they can brag about and it's been a standoff The Russians don't like the idea of being stooges in this silly game And Merkel is in with the Russians on there saying we should pay more attention to the Russian needs

2:30:17 which includes, you know... There's a bunch of factories in Ukraine. And then by the way when Obama talked about it he said THE Ukraine. Oh what a douche! Which I thought was interesting because we fight that yeah but let's play a couple of these clips and see what we have how about the Guardian guy Russia's intention? Okay Guardian guy coming right up Eastern Ukrainian leadership had this referendum two or three months ago about joining Russia Putin said they should not hold the referendum when the referendum nevertheless took place, against his statements. They didn't recognize the results of the referendum." So there's no evidence that Russia is seeking to, as it were, recreate the Soviet Union or the 19th century Russian Empire and seize this part of Ukraine. It's simply trying to defend people who have legitimate interests who are worried about Kiev's very anti-Russian—very—including anti-Russian language.

2:31:09 strategy and seek to defend them. So I think it would be better if Russia was more honest on the question of the prisoners that may well be true that those people strayed into Ukraine inadvertently there have been Ukrainian troops in the Russian side and the Russians have returned them without making a big propaganda fuss about it when they've lost their way yeah now Now, I don't want to... People sometimes get on... Particularly people who are Ukrainian and don't live in Ukraine. Like they live in Canada or New Zealand. Is that what they sound like? It's exactly what they sound like! People you don't... Putin may not be no world leader is going to be a nice guy except Obama. He golfs

2:32:06 He likes the Gulf. Yeah, you know you got to make decisions but I have seen really all the evidence is that... You're right! Russia really wants to try it just doesn't seem like he's This crazy UN job. No, they're rolling in dough! They're making tons of money and they have a lot of oil and monopolies the state now owns it of course Yeah And it all goes through this system and they are enjoying things and getting screwed by us because we aren't getting a piece of action That's right We're the world gangsters on this deal It's like hey, we want some points here We want a little bit of action Not A LOT Is there a different way? We get nothing from this guy Wasn't that...

2:32:48 I guess he just said screw it. Skruski you! He sounded like he was getting points. We do have to remember the fuck the EU comment and apparently, they didn't pay much attention to that but jeez... They didn't figure out that is real, that's really happening to you Yeah, well. I mean, I talk to people on the street and I talk to the cab drivers and they know that industry is dying here but no one

2:33:24 You see, you can't say stop the sanctions because well particularly in this country. Well Putin killed 300 people including AIDS researchers on that plane so it's so politically incorrect to say anything. I can't believe that they can buy into that argument! That's a dumbest thing Oh John... It's ongoing it's every single day and of course now this has been distracted with the polder jihadis and so you know people need to be whacked around it'll come back back for back what And then, you know that and it turns out there was some secret agreement made with Ukraine and Russia and the Netherlands about how they were going...and Malaysia about how they were going to do the investigation or not. You know shenanigans my friend, shenanigans! I actually heard someone at the dinner table say well we have to wait for the official results of the official investigation before we can really talk about the sanctions. Like are you crazy? That'll be years

2:34:27 Oh no, it's going to be Swift. Like 9-11 Swift? It'll be years! I'm contemplating telling my daughter to have a go bag. That's not a bad idea. If i see crap going down you gotta come over to Austin girl I don't want to scare her or anything. Yeah, probably nothing will come down. The winter's coming it'll be freezing she'll be freezing her ass off. Can play cease fire theory?

2:35:03 I'm sorry. Russia was trying to highlight the civilian casualties, which is also why they keep pushing for a ceasefire. And unfortunately, Ukrainian authorities insist on winning a military victory—first they thought they could do it by earlier this week, which was their Independence Day. They'd said they were going to, quotes, liberate, unquotes, Donetsk before Independence Day, but that hasn't happened. And they should now recognize they are not going to win a military victory. Russia's latest actions show that they're going to make sure that the forces there, the rebel forces are not defeated. What is this sound? Who speaks so much truth? This is this guy Jonathan Steele from The Big Nine Ten

2:35:47 The big nine and everybody he's an ex He guess he lived in Russia, and there is a bit of pro-russian it seems with these arguments But at the same time he does make a lot of sense And he does have these little tidbits that aren't being reported by anybody course not except him I guess and he's not even reporting them much. He's just talking about him on the on this particular show Let's play the clip Jonathan still on Russia and NATO This is another angle you want the intro or do you want the? Uh, the intro. Yeah the intro The problem is his packaging is all wrong and that's why no one pays any attention at well except us of course but... Well somebody's got you. You know he was like Johnathan Steele on the big 910 everybody got some news about Russia!

2:36:35 to Democracy Now! What do you think it's most important to understand about the crisis in Ukraine right now? I think it is that Russia is trying to prevent Ukraine joining NATO, which is of course what some people in the West—particularly in the Baltic countries and Poland and sort of neocons in Washington would like it to do. I think the situation could be dramatically escalated if President Obama now and at big NATO summit that's going to be held in Britain next week would say Wales The U.S. respects the current strategic position of Ukraine, which is non-alignment and would also say that there is no prospect of Ukraine joining NATO for the next at least 10 or 20 years. I think that would dramatically escalate the crisis. Putin would be immediately impressed and would be willing to make the concessions that are necessary. Wow! OK. Dynamite!

2:37:31 I think he's right. Do you think it'll happen? That's not gonna happen. Because these neocons are led by Kerry and the guys who snuck into that. Well, Newland after EU and Kagan. They're going to just push for this so this is just going to be a... But they should not push for this! They should give up on this idea This has gone as far as it needs to go. KAGAN!!! Yeah but anyway And we're just keep being brainwashed over here about the you know that but I get I'm glad to hear it as being its own Actually, it sounds worse to me. Oh It's much worse John Mickey and I cannot believe no Mickey as you already saw from the donation notes It's already tough living with me

2:38:16 You know, I can't watch anything. It's hard. I mean, I understand why you have a different arrangement and maybe what I need in the future because sometimes women too they just want to say it's a fashion show! Just watch it shut up already you know but even she's going oh this is so bad So bad. It's so... and it's low quality, low... the signal-to-noise ratio is very very poor just bad It sounds like the worst of the worst memes are being propagated, like there's no tomorrow. Obviously by the Dutch media and in fact that this political guy writer who writes for I guess op-eds and political commentary and analysis was so taken aback by the simplest of No Agenda things it's disconcerting. It's structural. An example is talking about Christina. So I went to see her in Rotterdam and Rotterdam...I was blown away by Rotterdam

2:39:17 You arrive there at the central station, you can't drive anymore on the Dutch roads. You take the train and it's 40 minutes and it's very efficient." Oh! And yes I had to have my RFID equipped card that you load up because you can't just pay cash. It was even worse...I could only charge it at the station itself because I don't have a chip credit card So only the station can use a credit card or debit card to fill it up. You're putting digits from one card onto the other, it's really mind-boggling when you think about it. Is there a fee involved with moving?

2:39:57 There's all kinds of fees. I went from the intercity from Amsterdam Central to, and it has one stop at Schiphol Airport which is the only way you want to get to the airport too by the way and then it goes on to Rotterdam and then from Rotterdam ends up in Breda. And So first you buy the card and the card is 18 euros and 50 cents. And he's just, the lady at the tobacco store says okay it's 18 euros 50 cents for the anonymous card which is nice I don't have to have my picture on or anything no one knows I bought it I guess they do because i paid for it with a credit card there. But, I couldn't charge any further than the 10 euros. What do you mean ten euros? Yeah its 1850 and is ten euros on the card so the card cost eight euros and fifty cents. For what?! Fucking card yes! Im sorry I didn't mean to swear but... It's outrageous okay fine

2:40:55 And then when you travel, you have to have two tickets. You have to have two charges because for some reason when you go from the Schiphol to Rotterdam there's a surcharge of an extra six euros... Who can understand this system? I don't know! Very confusing but then you arrive in Rotterdam and of course Rotterdam was completely annihilated in the Second World War so they've rebuilt everything and this area around the Central Station And let's be honest about it, the money is in Rotterdam. Amsterdam has shit they've got nothing! Nothing! They tried their tourist passenger terminal... They got a harbor here but everything all the Russian oil that goes is stored there and the gas that's stored there It's all in Rotterdam where all the money is You look at some of the architecture its contemporary it's really modern just beautiful steel and glass interesting real architects doing fun stuff

2:41:52 Beautiful. Of course, the problem is 50% of the population is Muslim walking around not speaking any Dutch you go into a store they don't try they don't try they've been here 12 years now speak you don't speak Dutch And you're stupid. What, you don't understand me? It's very frustrating even I'm not even a Dutch guy So the whole of Rotterdam is like it's Muslim. Just people feel out of place. I don't have my burka I don't feel good and I have my hajib. Hajib no jeeb balaklava so I stay with Christina and her she has a upstairs neighbor and This guy is teacher but his main passion is Boy Scouts He is a troop leader

2:42:38 And like, oh that's very cool. Do you know I'm a ham radio operator and uh iIm sure we'll have you with the JOTA? Oh I'm trying to look cool for my daughter right now but like I'm not the total doofus nerd...and he's kind of young guys in 35-38 something and it's like oh yeah no of course but we don't really do j.. You know what JOTA is John? Jamboree on The Air I've heard of it. It's a jamboree on the air is once or twice a year, all the Boy Scouts around the world they get to and you know they get their ham radios and they make contact with all the other boy scout troops and I guess girl scouts are part of it. QSL Fest! It's a QSL bonanza and he says well we have JOTI so what does that? A jamboree on the internet

2:43:29 That's no good. This is what I said! Geez... So isn't the whole point for the Boy Scouts to be prepared? This is the structural thing I'm talking about, that idea you can camp, you can start fire with sticks and you can communicate. Oh no, no, no. Camping on radio. Yeah we really just do jamboree on the internet. Jamboree on the internet in cashless society. Sounds like a winner. It's utopia! Here is, uh...a lady from Visa? on CNBC, I think this is their morning show and This is about the rollout of the new Visa cards which will include the chip Which will be useful now in Europe. And of course this is coming next year and we've seen this coming and we know that there's two parts to it One is it moves liability to the cardholder and the shop owner and the bank is no longer liable

2:44:30 which is great, but the problem... It's gonna store cash though right? That's the reason. Correct The real problem here is in... Hackers! No, in the United States it's just the amount of money to do it To do not just the cards but the terminals I think hackers, this is a way to get some free money. And Ellen just as we wait for the chip and pin cards to come from Visa and from other card issuers to replace the traditional magnetic swipe cards what's an update on the progress there? When can we expect Visa to fully roll these out The progress there is pretty amazing. So actually Visa is not rolling it out yet. Remember, she's from Visa. You can be expecting to get those cards direct from your bank and we recently did a survey along with the whole industry to find out how many cards are going to be in the market by the end of 2015 and the answer was over

2:45:25 cards. I believe it was 575 million cards, so you're going to be seeing those I don't want anything coming thick and fast near me lady. And then we're also doing a survey in the next few months of the merchant environment to find out how many places you'll be able to use them, and we'll get that information out in the next few months. Hey finally Alan do you recommend that consumers have a stash of cash on hand in case they are the victim of fraud either through the bank or not? I don't think that should be necessary because... You gotta listen, it's like so this is Visa and this is a form of native advertising if anything. Because you know it's visa visa visa visa she's talking about the industry and this guy goes off script! And yes and listen to the answer you can hear them like what? That

2:46:20 That was not what we agreed to. I don't think that should be necessary because when your card is interrupted, your bank is going to get you a new card replacement card literally in a matter of days. Literally? In a matter of days! Oh what do I do with it in a matter of days? Pound sand?! So...I personally use my cards without any fear that I need to keep cash under the mattress. Well, Ellen we will leave it. I don't need to keep cash under the mattress like an idiot. That's not what he asked, should i have some cash? Not under the mattress that doesn't do me any good you... What a douchebag! I can't take it. Yeah but yeah where she could have said well you know that but they these people are this is what my point of playing this It's so obvious they want to do away with the whole You should not be how can you even mention cash you A-hole

2:47:19 Cash does not exist in our vocabulary. It's Visa, PIN and chip there is no such thing as cash. She didn't even want to talk about the word cash but she almost puked and that's what's coming that's what it is. And so they get... What was this you got that from? CNBC The Morning Show. And nobody said to her this is a disaster waiting to happen This is a way to lock down the public. So every transaction you guys get a piece of the action with cash that doesn't happen? They didn't grill her at all because, right it was native advertising and that's what people have to realize when they're listening to these shows they are being bamboozled by this stuff which is the reason our show is so important. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah! That'd be fab

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2:56:33 Alright. Let me see... Did you guys get any of the story about this kid that was supposedly, you know his family took a kid out of the hospital and then Interpol tracked him down? No! It's a strange story I got a clip here that kind of explains it but some kid there was being operated on over and over again i guess he was breaking the bank or they didn't like him being in this he's got brain damage or something so the families said screw this place we're taking the kid home So they called on Interpol. This is in England, of course. Oh, of course. Yeah. State crime. The worst country ever. Yeah. Or the hospital called Interpol? Well no, the UK government eventually called Interpol I don't think you can just call Interpol Do they have 1-800 INTERPOL? 1 800 INTERPOL maybe

2:57:27 The British five-year old taken from a hospital without medical consent has been found. Aisha King and his parents had driven from England to Spain. Police there arrested Mr & Mrs King after an European warrant was issued in their names. The boy suffers from a brain tumor, needs feeding through battery operated system he'd last been operated on just nine days ago His parents are Jehovah's Witnesses, but it is unclear why the couple took their son. Mr King defended his actions. We were almost disturbed today to find that his face is all over the internet and newspapers and we've been labeled as kidnappers putting his life in risk neglect There has been a lot of talk about this machine As you see its all plugged-in

2:58:20 We've got loads of these feeds here. We've got iron supplements and we have cow pulp As you can see that there's nothing wrong with him He is very happy actually since we took him out of hospital he has been smiling a lot more, he has been very much interacting with us I don't know. Just seems like a weird story that came out of the blue and is being played here. Sounds like you were hoping i had some intel on it, which I don't... I was thinking that.. I want to go to our friends in Australia It's very hard sometimes when we lost Julia Gillard although I think she may be trying to make a comeback She is! Ever since she did that face plant this just not much better than that

2:59:08 That was just one of the most beautiful face plants ever seen. But we do have a guy who can make fun of and it's always that is one of our priorities here at the best podcast in universe known as The No Agenda Comedy Show this is George Brandis he is the Attorney General and there was a the premier or the prime minister I said, look you know listen people we got ISIS. We got you know all this crap going on. We are part of the five eyes of course. We need to collect some metadata on all these citizens of Australia and typically politicians are very good at a lot of things what are they good at John? Lying!

2:59:55 Yeah, not very good at technology. So what people are viewing on the internet is not going to be caught. So it's not the sites you're visiting? Well, what people are viewing on the internet when they web surf is not going to be caught What will be caught is the... ...is the web address they communicate to Okay so its only... sorry the web address if I go an internet site

3:00:31 That will be recorded and available. The web address is part of the metadata? The website. Well, the web address...the electronic address of the website. OK but if I go to the Sky News website, the Australian website, a more questionable website that will be..is that what we're talking about here? But what you're viewing on the internet is not what we are interested in and that's not what we regard. Can you be able to see whether I've been to that website or that website? Well, what will be able... What security agencies want to know, to be retained is the electronic address of the website when a connection is made between one computer terminal and

3:01:19 address. Computer terminal, I love that too! Is this guy that stupid? Yeah we're on the VAX connect to the VAX with a terminal That fact and the time of the connection and the duration of the connection is what we mean by metadata in that context but that is telling you where I've been on the web Some people didn't get it... Aussies just be infuriated by these people Get that guy out of office. Put him where he belongs, you know? In some sort of douchebag hospital or something." I've got a clip for you. I'm just giving him a little douche bag. He needed that. Yeah. He deserves it. Tell me if there's...I come to the conclusion that a lot of times we like to put other armies into play so we can just have them talk in broken English

3:02:18 as spokespeople so the elites can laugh at them. Just because they're military or just because it's funny? It's really, you know, they like to pull the wings off of flies... Tell me it's a brown person. Yeah, I'll brow at that! You have to state the obvious?! Here we go.

3:02:59 military operation. I didn't know the Filipinos had an army in Syria or doing peacekeeping for the UN, or whatever but i just thought there was something right in the middle of this that was hilarious." A Filipino military spokesperson says the soldiers will continue their mission in the Golan Heights. Syrian rebels initiated an attack on position 68 our troops defended their position The Syrian rebels attacked on board pickup trucks. Our peacekeepers returned fire in self-defense. Our troops fought back bravely and successfully held their positions after a seven-hour firefight. Filipino peacekeepers from both position 68 and 69 have been successfully repositioned to Camp Swan. The Armed Forces of the Philippines and the United Nations will not compromise the safety and security of our troops while in pursuit of their duties."

3:04:02 You're so right. And I should 69 is my favorite. I think 68 i don't know i'm giving it to you that was fun you got me laughing on the cusp though on the cusp And you're right. Mission 69, yes. Watch what this guy says we gotta put we got to get it We gotta get this on national news is guys hilarious. This is so funny. We gotta get out of here. Come on. Come on. Put that clip man quit pulling the wings off that flight and listen I have one downer news. This is vaccine news, as you know we are not anti-vaxxers but we do question certain types of vaccines and the business model behind them this is a story from Colombia Dozens of girls have gotten sick in a town in northern Colombia and their parents suspect that it's because they were vaccinated against cervical cancer more than 200 girls have been hospitalized in El Carmen de Bolivar with symptoms like headaches fainting and numbness of the hands They've since been released

3:02:59 military operation. I didn't know the Filipinos had an army in Syria or doing peacekeeping for the UN, or whatever but i just thought there was something right in the middle of this that was hilarious." A Filipino military spokesperson says the soldiers will continue their mission in the Golan Heights. Syrian rebels initiated an attack on position 68 our troops defended their position The Syrian rebels attacked on board pickup trucks. Our peacekeepers returned fire in self-defense. Our troops fought back bravely and successfully held their positions after a seven-hour firefight. Filipino peacekeepers from both position 68 and 69 have been successfully repositioned to Camp Swan. The Armed Forces of the Philippines and the United Nations will not compromise the safety and security of our troops while in pursuit of their duties."

3:04:02 You're so right. And I should 69 is my favorite. I think 68 i don't know i'm giving it to you that was fun you got me laughing on the cusp though on the cusp And you're right. Mission 69, yes. Watch what this guy says we gotta put we got to get it We gotta get this on national news is guys hilarious. This is so funny. We gotta get out of here. Come on. Come on. Put that clip man quit pulling the wings off that flight and listen I have one downer news. This is vaccine news, as you know we are not anti-vaxxers but we do question certain types of vaccines and the business model behind them this is a story from Colombia Dozens of girls have gotten sick in a town in northern Colombia and their parents suspect that it's because they were vaccinated against cervical cancer more than 200 girls have been hospitalized in El Carmen de Bolivar with symptoms like headaches fainting and numbness of the hands They've since been released

3:05:04 All of the girls had received a popular cervical cancer vaccine, Gardasil in the last few months. The town's mayor said that health experts found no evidence that the vaccine caused their symptoms. Columbia's Health Minister insists the vaccine is safe and that the symptoms are unrelated but the girl's parents have demanded an investigation. Now I bring this up with a backstory Of course, we've seen all kinds of issues with this particular vaccine and it certainly does not stop all cervical cancers. Only seven strains out but you don't need to...you can google that and get your own story been following us for a long time. Someone pointed out to me one of our producers because they are fantastic and just smart pointed out that Secretary Defense William S Cohen

3:05:51 And I have read this on the show before, in particular when we're talking about earthquake machines. You remember how it was really big on the earthquake machine? Oh yeah! Yeah, I remember you were big on the earthquake machine. You had documentation from the UN saying that these things are illegal. It's documentation from our very own United States government Secretary of Defense William S Cohen. This is from April 28 1997. Now and i'm going...and this just a part of testimony Actually, with Lugar and some other fogies who are still around. And this... You know, the earthquake machine thesis cost one of our producers his job as you recall

3:06:33 No, I do what happened. Yeah remember the story that guy wrote in he says yeah? I was talking I was getting I had this job and then they get guys so I'm a producer no agenda And the guy says no agenda to get the earthquake machine guy Well okay sorry You already apologized, it's fine. He got another job. So this is the Nunn-Lugar question answer and this was public and that's why the documentation is still public and uh... And was brought to my attention to read again regarding the capability of making biological weapons like earthquake machines to set stuff off. I think geological weaponry. Geological

3:07:20 And let me just, so here it is. This is in the show notes obviously at 648.nashownotes.com or noagendanotes.com and so the question is and there's a lot about this funny actually when you read as long about Iran and the same people, it's just the same people. 1997 talking about Clinton we're still talking about Clinton uh how prepares the U.S government to deal with evidence that is inaudible um answer I think we have to really intensify our efforts that's the reason for the new Lugar program too that's the reason why its local responsibly responsibilities such as Department of Defense is going to be taking the lead as far as supervising the interagency working groups they're very serious about what's going on question

3:08:00 Let me ask you specifically about last week's scare here in Washington and what we might have learned from how prepared we are to deal with inaudible at B'nai Brith. I don't know what happened in 97 at the, at B'nai Brith but some kind of scare um and the end of his answer is Others are engaging even in an eco type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes and volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations It's real And that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts and that's why this is so important But what he said before that which I of course had not thought about

3:08:48 Well, it points out the nature of the threat. It turned out to be a false threat under the circumstances but as we've learned in the intelligence community we had something called and we have James Woolsey here to perhaps even address this question about phantom moles The mere fear that there is a mole within an agency can set off a chain reaction and hunt for that particular mole which can paralyze the agency for weeks, months or even years in search. The same thing is true about just the false scare of threat of using some kind of chemical weapon or biological one There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like Ebola virus That would be very dangerous phenomenon to say the least

3:09:29 Alvin Toffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be specific so they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races, and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. And then he goes on to the climate, the earthquakes, and volcanoes Nice. Yeah, this is what we said! And we're doing it. We're killing Colombian girls There's a lot of stuff going on. But also the MMR, this is now a whistleblower from the CDC — I don't know if you've heard anything about this — they covered up results that African Americans...there was a group of African Americans, black American blacks who responded very adversely to MMR vaccinations and that data was covered up

3:10:29 And that was and it'll know this will not see the light of day. It's no, but nobody using everyone needs this shot in Africa Yeah I think there's something going on I do have an Ebola report that I keep promising and every week I get more clips for it So I don't have to do something because getting long yeah But I believe there's something going that this ebola thing is a little as a tip of another iceberg so I'll discuss in the future now entering second half of show So that was the real stuff, now I get the second half of show stuff. Yeah! The show's almost over! Well is it still the second half? Yes it is still the second half This will be the second half of the second half Mi-sho... Mishou Kaku

3:11:13 Oh, that guy. The strings guy! I hate this guy! What? Really?! He's so full of crap! Like the opposite of love you really hate him? I dislike him in a very... With his phony hair and that phony accent and his phony bullcrap he is full of it And he's all-in on climate change but anyway go on To make it even worse he has a new book out Don't you hate him extra now that he wrote a book? I don't hate him, i dislike him. So he wrote a book which is about the brain science course

3:11:53 about how we'll be able to alter brains and our brains. Actually, this has been... Yeah! This was discussed on the Today Show actually a clip of him. This is months ago when he as the book was being published and but it was okay go on. So he's always I'm he's on Book TV on C-SPAN as iIm cruising through you know my c-span clips so take a look and this is, he's at the book TV some book fair and he's taking calls because that's what they do best on C-SPAN. They do I agree Good afternoon please go ahead with your question or comment Yeah someone asked the doctor if he could

3:12:35 all these breakthroughs could be weaponized and what are some of the downfalls of this new technology? Thank you sir. The question is can these technologies be weaponized, and the answer unfortunately is that well any technology can be weaponized a hammer for example is neutral you can build buildings out of it but you can also weaponize a hammer so it becomes a sword or becomes a missile launcher I just had to stop there for a second. Why not weaponize it as a hammer? You can't weaponize a hammer to be a sword or rocket launcher, no!

3:13:12 You can weaponize a hammer by bashing someone's skull in. Yeah, you usually hit them with the hammer yeah! About 100 people were coming at you with hammers to pound you... This is not good So the question just to remind everyone as we finish this clip Can you weaponize this science of brain manipulation? Now the CIA back in the 1950s and 60s instituted something called MK-Ultra We thought that the Russians were experimenting on hypnosis and drugs and mind-altering things. And so, the US military spent millions of dollars funding through universities and private institutes studies on LSD, studies on hypnotism, mind control with psychics and all sorts of cockamamie things. Cockamamie! Another good word we need to reintroduce

3:13:59 cockamamie things. Cockamamie! Fortunately, nothing came out of it. Nothing came out of it? Nuts? Nasty nuts?! Nothing! Not a single piece of usable information... not a single piece of usable information... came out of this multi-million dollar secret plan called MKUltra which you can read about on the internet because if you could read about on the Internet where it's not my book which is official and correct but the internet where the crazies live however However, this technology now that I'm talking about is for real. We're not talking about psychics we're not talking about charlatans we're not talking about hocus-pocus! We are talking about reproducible experiments in the laboratory and yes i think that at some point we have to have an oversight to make sure people don't try to use this technology for something like mind control. I love the discreditation of

3:14:56 of everything that came before him. Yeah, yeah I think that's interesting. So this sounds to me like a disinformation book produced specifically by the CIA with this character being the front man who doesn't really have time to write a book like this? Correct! That's the thing you always have to remember is that most people get these these books cranked out for them. I mean, Woodward of course is our favorite example and it's well documented that he... But also Bill Clinton rightly point out before zero apologized in public to the American public for the experiments that were done on people isn't this not just cockamamie?

3:15:35 Yeah, yeah that's bad. I think that is a depressing clip so like i can go take us out with something that's not depressing but it is foreboding okay? I just wanted to give everyone some homework as a part of what we just listened to and talked about A patent and I have the patent in the show notes It's actually under NA technology tech news kind of tech news Tech News! Not really We're not going to do tech news No, patent US 762-9918 Bravo 2. The multifunctional radio frequency directed energy system and I want you to have a look at that. Repeat the number for the audience 762 9 or 9 or 1 8 bravo 2 and There'll be a link in the show notes And this is

3:16:26 This is a patent for a system that would look very much like a cell phone antenna, that can be pointed towards you and can scramble your thoughts. And it's in the patent that it does this. Yeah, well we've seen this in action with the news readers. It happens to them constantly if somebody in the audience or somebody working there has got one of these things and he thinks its funny to use it I'm sure every time someone launches an attack They get called by someone telling him not to do it again. Well, the good news about a patent and that's why I bring it up is the information is public so you can get your Arduino and your Raspberry Pi and we can build a couple of these. Yeah, there's a patent violation but you could do it what? To build it? It's not a violation to build it! Yeah, it is... But you have to get caught. It's very impossible to get caught Wait wait wait You can't build it?! I'm not selling it. I just want to build it

3:17:25 You're not allowed to build it? No. A patent disallows me from building it? It dis- yeah! Really?! Well, I mean you can't just patent it you can't do anything for 26 years you're not supposed to build one but this is not a plan... But it has the schematics right there Yeah, I know they do that's how you get the patent And then you can't even-I thought you couldn't commercially exploit it you can build it can't you? No Well people DO Yeah, you can technically build one and nobody's coming after you for making a copy. But you've just cost the guy a sale! Okay well listen I want one Well make one then. I'm asking everyone so it'll be very funny at the dinner table or no take it to go to the Obama bot dinner and just push the button once in awhile