Brand Snowden

00:00 blind and or asleep. Legion of Tourette's tickers from the South Austin safe house in FEMA region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I have returned. I'm John C. Dvorak Yes, finally good to have you back Although I didn't really miss you. You didn't miss me because I was to you, I'm just a virtual person. Floating out in the ether. You may not be real. You could be that IBM Watson thing for all I know. It's a possibility. That's okay. On Friday I'll be on the road. Oh, sorry, it's Friday. On Sunday. Tomorrow. Yeah, tomorrow. Tomorrow I leave for New York and I'll be doing the show from New York. Sunday. Where in New York? From Manhattan.

01:03 You have a place there? Yes, my daughter and I will be staying in it. It's called a hotel. It's your hotel, you own it? Why yes, I inherited it from Leona Helmsley. And the other little people. Yes, indeed. Well, I don't know, I feel a little I was reading this note on the air for a sound check and I'm wondering if we had read it on the air. I don't think so. Is the analyst on Warren is correct according to wingtip? I don't think we read it. Is it okay to read it on the air? It's in the pile. No, I forgot to read it. I'm gonna read it. Okay. Now, dear John and Adam, I ran your analysis of Warren past a friend of mine who is a member of the wingtips, not boots on the ground, if you recall that old meme. Who are the wingtips?

01:52 wingtips? Yeah, who are the wingtips? Are these like special Democrats? It's just a bunch of elitists. Oh, the wingtips, like the penny loafers. No wingtips. I got wingtips. Yeah. Okay. Are these Republicans or Democrats? They'd be Democrats. The Republicans wear loafers. He agrees with your position and his analysis below. I think you've made a good bet on Warren. Hillary isn't inheriting her husband's Democratic Party. Various polls have concluded a radical liberal wave is sweeping through the party. Her populist 11 commandments are exactly what her base wants to hear. Hillary isn't actually popular. She only strikes scores amongst certain Democrats. I don't think she is liberal enough and her performance within the State Department was absolutely pathetic. Obama disappointed liberals and Hillary appears to be a repeat. Obama 3. Warren is beloved by Occupy Wall Street, admired by progressives concerned about income inequality and the wealth gap. Hillary is too crazy with Wall Street and liberal hawks.

02:56 Oh, too cozy. Too cozy with Wall Street and liberal hawks. In 08, Obama gave liberals an option for voicing their disdain for the Clinton's Goldman Sachs politics without putting a Republican in the White House. This time around, Warren clearly fits that bill. More importantly, Warren's also a woman. Right. A woman's in. Yeah, this is gotta be a woman. Of course, of course. Liberals are obsessed with race and gender. They only understand and see what the world through that lens. While blacks haven't seen their disposition improve under a black president, just the fact that his skin is brown represents a great victory for the ignorant and downtrodden.

03:35 The same goes for Hillary or Warren. It's this glass ceiling that matters, not their politics or stances. Warren is an idiot on foreign policy as is Obama. She seeks appeasement with Iran. And she ultimately hopes for a return to isolationist policies. Unlike Clinton, she doesn't favor keeping a residual force in Iraq after 2011. She is weak, a weak dove. And that resonates with the war weary Americans that can't find foreign countries on a map. I love it when John McCain sends an email. It's just so nice of him to do that. Yes. I don't think the

04:17 the obsessive nature of wanting equality and amongst all colors and genders is a Democrat liberal thing. I think that's an astutely American thing. I really don't believe that's split down a line like that. Yeah, but you paint it, you paint the Republicans with the hate brush. Yeah. Hate paint. And that was from Drake Gnubis, one of our producers. I've been receiving This is probably the most emailed clip, although it's a very old one. As our president has gone to Martha's Vineyard on vacation. And of course everyone loves dredging up old stuff from then-candidate Obama. And I just can't ignore it, it's been emailed so many times. Essentially the bargain that any president... By the way, he said essentially!

05:09 And we know that is a weak use of a word. Essentially the bargain that any president I think strikes with the American people is, you give me this office and in turn my fears, doubts, insecurities, foibles, need for sleep, family life, vacations, leisure is gone. I'm giving myself to you and the American people should have no patience for whatever's going through your head because you've got a job to do.

06:05 Why do people love Elizabeth Warren but the same people hate Sarah Palin? Well, Sarah Palin's a Republican, so that's bad. She's also a conservative and she goes to church. That's bad. And she's got that voice. I mean, I don't like Sarah Palin because of that voice, that screechy voice. She doesn't seem very thoughtful, even though for someone who's not thoughtful, she's come up with a number of gems such as the death panel and some of these other things that have all stuck.

06:43 So how many memes has Elizabeth Warren ever developed? None. Oh, that's not true. Can't name me one. Yes, I'm going to find it for you. Right, I can't find it. The we believe thing, that was her whole... That was her whole thing. We believe. We believe. We believe. Her we believe speech. We believe was an Obama meme. No, that was hope and change. No, he also had believe. We believe. Hmm. Yes. Here it is. I believe in science. Hold on a second. I believe in science is nothing new. I mean, I've heard that on the for a long time. I didn't know it was a belief system science. I thought it was a methodology, but it could be a belief system. I thought it was a methodology. It's a scientific fact.

07:31 It's turned into a belief system. Isn't that interesting? Well that yes, well, I think we've established that for sure. Hold on a sec. Let me just find this. I have this somewhere. I don't know why it's not in my evergreens. It should be. Because that was such a beautiful speech she did there at the... What was that thing again? The net...net neuron... Net roots. Net neurons. Net roots, yes. Net neurons. Net neurons. You know what I'm saying. I can't find it. I'm gonna play it since we're getting it started here. We could do a few different things. Let me play this clip. It's just kind of a light clip. This is a 15 second commercial for hotels that.com that I thought was the creepiest thing I've

08:13 First you have to imagine, here's your setting, there's some poor old lady who must be 80, sitting behind the computer with some young guys, obviously the computer expert, sitting next to her. I think I just saw this commercial on CNN. Yeah, sitting next to her, helping her find some hotel room, and then this guy, the representative of Hotels.com comes in to help, and then you get this commercial, which is disgusting. Jimmy, all of these travel sites seem the same. Tell your grandmother with the Hotels.com loyalty program she'll earn free nights. So they're not the same, because they're different. Jimmy's not my grandson Captain Obvious. He's my lover And then they start making out I have seen this yeah, what is the point of this commercial and why is it? I mean besides making you go what? What is the point of this commercial and so far as messaging is concerned? I think it well I think we've gotten to the point where

07:31 It's turned into a belief system. Isn't that interesting? Well that yes, well, I think we've established that for sure. Hold on a sec. Let me just find this. I have this somewhere. I don't know why it's not in my evergreens. It should be. Because that was such a beautiful speech she did there at the... What was that thing again? The net...net neuron... Net roots. Net neurons. Net roots, yes. Net neurons. Net neurons. You know what I'm saying. I can't find it. I'm gonna play it since we're getting it started here. We could do a few different things. Let me play this clip. It's just kind of a light clip. This is a 15 second commercial for hotels that.com that I thought was the creepiest thing I've

08:13 First you have to imagine, here's your setting, there's some poor old lady who must be 80, sitting behind the computer with some young guys, obviously the computer expert, sitting next to her. I think I just saw this commercial on CNN. Yeah, sitting next to her, helping her find some hotel room, and then this guy, the representative of Hotels.com comes in to help, and then you get this commercial, which is disgusting. Jimmy, all of these travel sites seem the same. Tell your grandmother with the Hotels.com loyalty program she'll earn free nights. So they're not the same, because they're different. Jimmy's not my grandson Captain Obvious. He's my lover And then they start making out I have seen this yeah, what is the point of this commercial and why is it? I mean besides making you go what? What is the point of this commercial and so far as messaging is concerned? I think it well I think we've gotten to the point where

09:06 marketers are desperate to have anyone remember their URL, really, their brand. And I just booked a hotel in New York and I did it through Hotels.com and I was cognizant of doing this. And the reason why I thought is, hey, these guys are spending a bundle of money right now because they also have the one where the kid missed the air sickness bag and... Oh, that's Booking.com, I'm sorry. For some reason I saw that hotels.com was spending money. I thought maybe I'll have a better deal That's the only that was my reasoning but but marketers are to our marketers are At a point where they'll do anything to get their

09:47 Brand recognized and yeah, I saw all the perverts go to hotel.com I think the mistake everyone's making is is the lack of using the musical jingle that is what works But it's it's not seemed You can't win a con Palme d'Or or the Lyon or whatever the hell it is. I agree a hundred percent. Seriously, it's like... There are kids all over America right now who remember this. Well, we have people even we even have one words jingles or not jingles per se because they're not rhyming or anything but they're catchphrases like the Putin thing. Yeah. And other...

10:27 And the other ones and the other ones and we have our in the mornings and all the rest of it and those are all Catchy and nobody is you're right. In fact, this has been studied to death I remember I talked about this on the show about three years ago About this guy that was apparently the guy who invented the modern jingle and for early radio and And he was on one of these Canadian stations doing an interview. And he says the same thing you just said, which is that these guys just don't get it. They want to win awards. Oh, we're award-winning advertising agency. They don't care about their clients. No, no. They want to make little mini movies. And this, I think this probably happened... When did this really start? It must've started with the Apple 1984 commercial, I'd say.

11:14 I think it goes way before that, but the Apple 1984 commercial definitely turned the tables on the creative side. Because they paid for one play, it got infinite plays free, and so everyone thought that's the way to go. You do something dramatic and high-end, and you're gonna get lots of attention. And that has never worked for anything except that Apple commercial. Anyway, there have been some very good ones. There's been the Mac versus PC. There have been real winners that are that are trend-setting and of course are replicated ad nauseum and if I hear one more commercial with kind of that happy-go-lucky Apple music with the up-talking happy male voice and the black and white, you know, just the whole thing is so...

12:09 It's tiring, but a good jingle works. Call 1-800-EMPIRE-TODAY. That's our carpet guy here in Austin. Cars for kids, cars for kids, cars for kids, K-A-R-S, cars for kids, donate your car today. Yeah, I have Empire Today. That's the carpet. We have the Empire guy here. Oh, it's obviously a massive chain. Yeah, it's not I thought it was local see there It's a sleazy commercial with like crappy animation. Yeah, good work So the success I can't say it any other way Yeah, yeah, well, and then there's that well, but also the people are just being

12:55 Hurt your but your human rights are being violated with what is being shown to you on television. I really I'm surprised by our own audience and I'm really surprised by the the citizens of Gitmo nation certainly if we look at St. Louis, Missouri I've been to st. Louis a lot my client Budweiser anhyzer Bush used to be there back in the day and when I see a people protesting and their protest slogan is hands up don't shoot are you fucking kidding me it's i'm sorry this what is this this this must be a planned fake

13:39 protest. I mean, this can't be real citizens who, or perhaps it is where we have gone to. First of all, this is no surprise that we have a police state, that the police are armed like the army. This surprises you, citizen? You haven't seen this happening? You haven't read this? You haven't heard of this? Are you blind? Have you just put blinders in front of your eyes? Oh, that's not really happening. And now it happens. And now, oh, wow, can you believe it? and they're shooting you with rubber bullets, which is nothing new. I think if anything, it's boring. The footage is boring. What happened to the guys with the billy clubs beating up protesters? You know, this is, you get a wee wee wee wee wee, you got the long distance noise machine, which I think is

14:26 illegal by Geneva Convention standards. It's a horrible weapon to use on people and you shoot a bunch of flash bangs and tear gas and people are saying hands up don't shoot. This is not a protest and there's all kinds of people jumping. This one is there's a lot going on with this particular event when you get Sharpton in on day two. This is other... Have you seen this? The Bob Avakian... Sharpton is a professional agitator, should be ashamed of himself. I have a clip here from... Hold on a second, where is it? This is... Well, you're getting that clip live. I have it here. Someone heckled him and that was...

15:10 I thought it was kind of funny. Reverend Sharpton, the term snitches get stitches was spray-painted on the quick trip. Since you're a federal snitch, sir, do you fear for your life? Are you in fear for your life being a federal informant? I'm warning this policeman. You're here to snitch on the writers. That's right. You tell him, Rev. That's right. You tell him, Rev. Yeah, he's a snitch. We know. Yes, we always forget that. Well, I didn't forget it. And I like that this this citizen did not forget it. Citizen journalist. But how this is being.

15:52 portrayed. And immediately this is now, it's a black, it's a white on black thing. This is what I'm seeing everywhere and I'm very discouraged by people taking that meme and running with it because I don't believe that is what initially happened here. I don't think that is the right way to approach this. And when I see, this is a state senator from Missouri, Nasheed, out blatantly lying to trump this up into racial hate crime. You know, I'm appalled. The people should have a right to know. You have, it's unjustifiable. Can you justify killing and shooting down a man in the middle of the street? Execution style. What? Did he put him on his knees and shot him in the back of the head?

16:43 execution style? They had the guy, the sheriff, or not the sheriff, but the local cop there who turned all the investigations over to the county because he didn't want to have a conflict of interest. And he says the kid was shot in the police car as he jumped for the gun or something along those lines. I think my point is... He wasn't even shot in the streets. This is all... Nobody saw this. They just say what they think happened because it's a rumor. Yes, and that's my point is that this is not journalism. This is making crazy people ism. Again, simply- Hold on a second. Now I want you to play that clip again. Now I'm going to suppose something and you're gonna tell me if I'm right or wrong because I'm pretty sure I'm right. After she made that idiotic comment that he was killed execution style, in other words on his knees shot in the back of the head, the person doing the interview called her out on that. Oh let me see I would say- Justify killing

17:41 and shooting down a man in the middle of the street execution style again simply because his only crime was walking in the middle of the street wanting to visit his grandmother. We have no it may be true but listen to the story that is being spun here. He wasn't considered a statistic He didn't have any felony charges. He didn't have any gang activity. He wasn't involved in any gang activities. He didn't do any of those things. He wasn't a drug dealer. He was an upright young man who did exactly what his mother

18:19 told him to do. Go to school, get a good education, and become a productive citizen. So this may all be true, but this has no basis in any evidence or fact or it doesn't really relate to what is going on. And then we have Ronan, the Sinatra kid on MSNBC with Some guy named last name Capehart who was an MSNBC contributor. I didn't look him up It doesn't matter because what they want to say is clear are black Americans as you put it under siege Yes, and I'm not done. You don't have to listen to the rest. Yes, black Americans are under siege Okay, so that is the narrative I saw white white Americans were walking around in this protesting I saw all kinds of things going on

19:07 I'm discouraged that this is immediately taken to race. Well, they have to get ready for the, they're desperate about the 2014 elections. And they gotta get the black votes out. And the blacks will vote Democrat because I don't know, I don't even know when that switchover took place. Should we be that pessimistic, that sarcastic that that truly is why this is happening? I think you're right. And that is what you need to revolt against. The people who are commenting on this, they really don't care about you. They only care about votes and power.

19:48 And this is this group that showed up, one of our producers took some pictures and he lives there. I had not heard this guy, Bob Avakian, you may have heard of him. Oh yeah, he's been around forever. For a long time. Yeah, since the 60s I think. Yes, he is the leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party USA. And when groups like this show up with bullhorns and t-shirts You know, and he is not, I don't think he's an Obama fan at all by the way. I think he's very much, he truly is a Marxist. I think he just wants communism or whatever. But when, that means it was an opportunity and it may have been a set up opportunity or in some way it was exploitable and

20:35 these groups, these small, smallish groups, I think Bob Bivakian is not a well-recognized name anymore, if he ever was. He wasn't in the 60s and 70s in Berkeley. So he shows up, you know, with his group and they're yelling about all kinds of stuff. Well, they're just stirring things up. I mean, it's bad enough. But this is what happened, you know, after they tore, there's a Target store that was just completely decimated. And, you know, all this other looting is a problem and then burning down the gas station. Some other things are going. Well, yeah, man, we get that's that's if you're mad at the man, you got to loot the target.

21:13 Yeah, well the problem is that you end up creating another Detroit even though St. Louis is halfway there already. In fact, St. Louis has had nothing but race problems since the early 1900s. It's always been a problem there, but that's not discussed even. In fact, the first great race riot documented in the United States was believed to be the 1917 St. Louis race riots. that were so bad, they essentially tore down half of East St. Louis, it was so bad that they put out a... I have a clip from the guy who wrote a book on this. Oh good. And they have... it's so bad that they went out and confiscated every photo they could find.

21:51 of the carnage and there's very little left. And most of it's in this guy's book. Very little left in a lot of drawings, but they actually, the police went out and got all the photos because they thought it was inflammatory. And really if you look at it, not much has changed as geolocation tags for Facebook stopped working. I think charter cables, some things went out, cell phones where there was issues. There was a notice to airmen Although, 3000 foot notice to airmen is not really a huge problem for a news helicopter. And I still think we should have been able to receive some kind of video, but I think more went on. That was probably more the excuse, but you get a lot of poor analysis of a NOTAM. The airspace was not blocked closed down. There was certain altitude.

22:44 Right, they made a big deal of it. And you know, depending on your lens, I've done 3,000 foot photography and you can do pretty well. Really? But it's the same thing. So we want to control the message. And the president's about to speak, as this is Thursday the 14th. Now the president is going to speak about this. I don't think he's talked about a lot of things of horror and terrible nature that have happened, but this one, there he is. And and as cynical as it sounds I get the vote out. I want to play some bingo boom shakalaka. I want to play some of this This 1970 it's a long clip so do I play all of it or play as much as you feel like he talks about the origins of the race riot and which is a bunch of drunk I'll just give a little background the origin of this race right was apparently the st. Louis police Would get drunk

23:41 and after hours and then go into the black part of town and shoot up the place just as a joke and that's been the blacks got fed up with this now i want to put put things in perspective with this situation is taking place in ferguson which is that what happened to this kid no matter however it happened daily routine in in oakland and i think there is a lot and we're not having these race russell these race rights are somehow They're either a culmination of pent-up hostilities, which I believe is partially part of it, and then... I would agree. kerosene to the fire you have the Sharptons and these other a-holes coming in. Play this clip. And blacks from the south at the same time the bull wheel was destroying the cotton crop and farm jobs were disappearing and so blacks were moving in large numbers north to industrial cities and East St. Louis was an industrial city

24:36 And there were inevitable clashes between blacks and whites that took place over these jobs. And it just evolved into a riot that took place in July of that year, July of 1917. The night of July 1st, a Model T Ford, a black Model T Ford drove through a black neighborhood, people shooting out of the windows. An hour later, a black Model T Ford moved through a black neighborhood with people shooting out of the windows. No one was killed, but the third time a black Model T Ford went through a black neighborhood with people shooting out of the windows, blacks had assembled, young black men had assembled with guns and they shot back and two police detectives were killed and that triggered the riot and then all chaos broke out.

25:26 And you make an excellent point that this happens probably on a daily basis in Berkeley, California, or Oakland, sorry, Oakland. Why is it, do you think, that these riots do not take place there? Is that because...and I have my ideas, but I'm thinking, is that because it's such a tinderbox that it could get out of control and the people who really want to see these riots for their own personal gain in power would be subject to danger? Or is the police state so vast in that area that it just can't spark big enough? What do you think? Why is the reason? Why yes St. Louis, no to Oakland?

26:13 And MC Hammer, by the way, who was an Oak Town boy, he's all over this too. Why is it that this is now on the radar, everyone jumps on it, pile diving, like the Sharptons and the Communist group and everybody else, and not in Oakland? Is that because the elites don't want it to get out of control, the people who want power who live nearby, or is the police state so strong that it can't happen? What is your vision? You're out there, so I'm hoping you have some insight. That's very simple. The Democrat Party runs California in every which way. In Missouri, that's not the case. Republicans have a foothold. Okay, so the sit- right. That's all there is to it.

26:52 You're gonna have... It's run by Democrats, the state is run by Democrats, we have two Democrat senators, Feinstein and Boxer, two idiots. The governor's a Democrat, everyone's a Democrat. And so you have Democrat mayor, you have Democrat everything in Oakland. You're not going to get this because of what's the point? We don't need it, we don't need it, what's the point? We don't need a riot because we already run in the place. I'm sorry. Of course, yeah, alright, that makes sense. So you can shoot a kid on a BART, you know, with the BART police, with a guy, oh I thought it was my taser and you pump a bunch of bullets into him and it's all caught on tape and no riots. No riots. Okay, you just totally warped my mind and thank you. That's it? That is exactly it? So this could happen in Texas then I guess? Oh yeah, yeah, it could happen in Texas because they gotta, Texas is scheduled to turn into a blue state. Yeah.

27:48 after Georgia. We had the clip about these demographers that were talking about this during the round table, and they said, yeah, Georgia's gonna be the next state to go to blue from red, and then they're going to go to Texas, will be after that. And so there has to, one way you gotta get the black vote out. And you get the black vote out with situations, and the situation will get people riled up. And you know, Austin would be perfect for that. Although yeah, Austin's already Democrat, but nothing's gonna happen in Austin. Yeah, but we want Wendy Davis to win and all this stuff. Austin's the capital. There's a lot of good stuff here. If there's gonna be riots in Texas, we have it. Houston.

28:33 Yeah, yeah, I know Houston is complicated because there's this there's so much money there. They won't stand for it And all the money is Democrat Houston may look like it's some big red town, but no way it's all rich Democrats who live there I'm gonna play a little bit more of this is very interesting going back to 1970 I guess this has always been the case, although maybe these were not so politically motivated back in the day. This was just hatred. The next morning. It started out, as riots often do, with fistfights in the streets and so forth, but they quickly escalated. And one of the reasons they escalated was that there was a central mob of men who probably had been in the bars drinking all night

29:20 uh... which you could do in the same it was in those days and but but soon there were a truck terrible atrocities uh... black men were hung from telephone poles in downtown streets uh... one man's scalp was ripped loose uh... a mother and her baby was shot as they were trying to escape from a burning building Much of the downtown area was burned down and those ISIS guys are a hundred years behind they're still doing this in the Middle East Okay, well I think that I'm gonna put this clip in the in the show notes obviously under clips and stuff you can list to the whole thing. But you I think you've totally nailed this. This only happens in places where it's advantageous. We do have elections coming up and I would think it's much easier to do this in in southern states where you can point to historical racism

30:16 And it makes so much sense when you have the guys popping up, you got Sharpton all over this, you have... I'm seeing politicians all, I'm not seeing really like community leaders. I'm seeing local Democrat governors, you know, and the president, the president is about to come out here and speak on it. The last time we had this was in Florida with Trayvon Martin, who is now being, that case is being pulled up again. That's the last time we saw the president speak about a young child, a young person being killed. So you can almost map out the next one. I would say Georgia, I think you're right, Georgia seems a shoe-in for that. Yeah, Georgia has a lot of potential for some good race riots.

31:06 Oh man, that's so cynical. And I think a lot of people can't even... I mean, I know you, we've talked about these things for a long time. I can get my head around it, but I think a lot of people just say, that's crazy talk. You don't really think that people would do this for political gain. And the answer is yes. Yes, they will go to any lengths. Yeah. And I'm looking at the Missouri... Democrat-Republican kind of battles going on. Republicans hold two of the Senate statewide offices. In other words, Roy Blount is a U.S. Senator. And here's the deal. They have a majority in the Missouri House of Representatives and a supermajority in the Missouri Senate.

31:51 So this has got to end so they can take see so they essentially said for the governorship right own Missouri the Republicans and they got to get voted out. So you'll see this switch over there a little bit. I don't know how many House of Representatives because those are all gerrymandered to an extreme will get voted out But they they could take over the Missouri House of Representatives and Senate if they could cause enough time How do you move get the blacks out to vote? You can't get them to vote. That's what they always say. They just don't want to vote because they're more... Blacks tend to be cynical, you know, for obvious reasons. Yeah, because they're smart. They know what's going on. They know they're being hoodwinked. And then, but in these situations where you have this sort of... When you had that woman that was a representative of the, I guess she was a congresswoman, and it was that

32:39 Whatever their case was that woman who says they was shot executioner. Yeah, she's from a troublemaking liar Yes state senator. Oh, she's a state senator that she wants to get You know, she's in the minority there in the state Senate and she wants to see things change. And so she's gonna go out there with this bullcrap and get all the people riled up. Yeah, well, it makes it... I've never seen this woman before. I have no idea. Nasheed is her name. Hold on, let's take a look. Why would they bring her in? Yeah, let's take a look. Let's see. State Senator Nasheed, N-A-S-H-E-E-D, Jamelia Nasheed.

33:16 Missouri State Senate, come on do we have a wiki entry? They got a ballotpedia. What is that? Ballotpedia. Ballotpedia. Ballotpedia. Bullcrap. So what's it, give me her name again. Nasheed, November Alpha, Sierra Hotel, Echo Echo Delta. And first name? Jamila, Juliet Alpha Mike, India Lima Alpha Hotel. Let's see, we gotta see if we have a... There she is, Jameelah Nasheed, Senate, Senator, Ballotopedia, no she's not in the Wikipedia. No. She's some... She's born in 1972. Perfect. Yeah, perfect. She fits right into the demo.

34:06 She looks like a she's on the urban issues all of herself She's the chairman of the urban issues committee the budget committee special standing committee on redistricting That's a good all over the minimum wage thing. That's part of the big big everyone's pushing that yeah, yeah, okay? You know, minimum wage for what? So all the McDonald's people get...they already got the jobs. Just get more money. This is not gonna help her constituency, but it's gonna make her look good. So let us look at this as analysts. And we're going to presume for a moment that this is an opportunity. An opportunity has presented itself. We are the election crisis team.

34:47 And the first thing we do is we get sharp and ready. Get the jet fueled up, sharp, and get ready to go. And we need to have a message and the underlying message is you need to get out and vote and we need you to vote for Democrats. How do we do that? How do we portray that message? I think we obviously start by getting the PR team to, the publicist to line up the Democrat politicians, local and national, to go on the shows and talk about this. Then what is the the motivator and without just saying it and maybe that's the way to do it. How do we

35:27 I think you do it by having, you do the classic bit where you have, you want to do associative comparison. So you take, you make all the Democrats go up there are black. Republicans are not only white, but they're creepy guys. And you put them on the same stage. We have to have some creepy shots of them ducking into alleyways and into cars and doing no comment. If you could get that, that would be great. And then you get out to vote. White Democrats are going to vote Democrat because that's just what they do. And the black Democrats are gonna vote Democrat because that's what they do, but they don't go out to vote, especially during these midterm, between presidential elections. This is where people sneak, you're gonna run for office, this is the time to do it, because you can sneak in with really not,

36:22 You don't have to use all the horsepower available to you to get the office. And so to get the black vote out, which is all it takes in these bludgeoned black states that have a lot of black Democrats, you gotta get them out. Once you get them out, then they'll turn the election and you'll get... We'll watch. We're gonna watch this. I would bet even money, I'd give odds that when it's all said and done, the Missouri State Senate and the Missouri House of Representatives will pick up votes for the Democrats. And President Obama has interrupted his vacation. Right, which makes no sense. To speak from Martha's Vineyard. He's supposed to interrupt his vacation about the catastrophe going on in the Middle East. He doesn't seem to interrupt for Ukraine, but he'll do it for this. Okay, right.

37:11 That's for a reason. Yes. For votes. Yeah, because people are already blaming him for losing votes. So he has to come up and, you know, right. Help. He needs we need he needs to help. I can just imagine people calling him up. President, you've got to help. The situation is out of control. We can pick up a number of seats in the Senate and a number of seats in the House. Yeah. Sharpton's already on his way. If you just say something, you don't want Sharpton to be the only voice out there, do you? Yeah, that would work. That's actually a good pick. I could do, oh crap, we can't have Sharpton getting all the limelight. Screw that guy. Get me a podium. Put some flags up. Which he has. And the blue backdrop. Backdrop. He's got it all. And he doesn't have to wear a tie. He gets to wear the... Yeah, right, he gets to have his golf uniform. Oh, I hate being so cynical, people. But there you go. I think you have nailed it, John. And this is an excellent analysis.

38:10 It's very simple, and it's so simple that it's just painful to think that it is the reality of the situation. Painful. The president also did something...let's just move on because I think we're done on this topic, right? Yeah, we can't overanalyze any...we'll just see what's going to happen. We'll see things take place as the local and national politicians take advantage of the situation. The president also, I didn't know this was going on, didn't know this event existed, although it apparently was in Amsterdam a few years ago. Maybe I did hear about it. The president again talking to the base, I presume, to say, happy games everybody.

38:55 Welcome to the 2014 Gay Games. And to the thousands of athletes, coaches, family and spectators from around the world, welcome to Ohio and the United States of America. Did you know there was a Gay Games? Oh yeah, they've always had Gay Games. They started as the Gay Olympics, and then they got sued. Yeah, right, exactly. And this was like, I think 20 or 30 years ago, and then they changed it to the Gay Games. The first one was 1982, I believe. The Gay Games is the world's largest sporting and cultural event organized by and specifically for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender athletes, artists, and musicians. Well since I don't know how many percentage but a high percentage of the normal Olympians are gay, I find that this is bogus. Yes, I think it's not only bogus, it's a step back for emancipation of sexuality. It would seem so.

39:49 Since 1982, the Gay Games have given lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender athletes and supporters around the world a chance to come together to compete, celebrate and inspire others. This is not modern. I don't know why this is... That's like having the Negro Baseball League come back. Thank you! Thank you! This does not make any sense anymore. If we are in the equality business, which I'm all for, How can this still... this is... if anything, it's exclusionary! Totally. It's been remarkable to see the games thrive over the years. We've also seen America change in that time. Even since 2006, when the games were last held in the United States, in my hometown of Chicago. We've come a long way in our commitment to the equal rights of LGBT people here and around the world. By segregating their games.

40:42 But there's plenty of gay people who participate in the Olympic Games and are good and winning. And it doesn't matter. I'd forgotten about this, and I hear the president go, yay gay games, what? This is step back people. You shouldn't... Musicians... It should be a buke. Yes, it should be. I'm proud of my administration's record and of the citizens who've helped to push for justice. Now it says the games are open to all adults regardless of sexual orientation or athletic ability. Well, yeah. They have to put that there. It's called the... Yeah, but it's called the Olympic Games. Go to the Olympic Games. Yeah. If anything, this is probably a marketing opportunity for

41:28 for sponsors. Let's take a look at this website. Hold on a second. I'll bet you there's all kinds of... Oh, course. Any opportunity you can come up with. It's all a matter of who's the promoter and what he can get out of it or she. Let's take a look at sponsors. Who's sponsoring this event? Be a sponsor, be a donor. Okay. Cleveland Clinic. What is all this? The Marriott Human Rights Campaign, Coca-Cola, of course, lots of banking. Oh yeah, well you know the gay community, lots of money, lots of money to take from them. Lubrizol, whatever that is. Yo. Yeah. Wow, this is a big list of... oh there's the gayorbits.com. Okay.

42:23 to orbits the orbits i didn't know there was a it says the gay orbits dot visit gay orbits.com yeah there's a lot of uh a lot of hotels and restaurants that cater literally to the gays they don't want specifically yeah okay fine i mean i don't know this is how you find this place one of the places wow the sponsor page is off the hook john there's a lot of money in this this is big this is big big business the bot blue that's right LGBT getaways. I think we should start the hipster games. There's a lot of money to be made there. And do you have a clip for the hipster games? Please tell me you have a clip, no? Somebody's got to make us a clip. Let's listen to the rest of this. I know some of you have come from places where it requires courage, even defiance, to come out. Sometimes at great personal risk.

43:20 You should know that the United States stands with you and for your human rights just as our athletes stand with you on the field at these games. After all, the very idea of America is that no matter who you are, what you look like, where you come from or who you love, you can make it if you try. That's who we are. Make it if you really try. I think it's a, is that a Carpenter's lyric? Continually strive to be. We're also a country that loves competition. So let's get these games underway. Good luck to the athletes. Have a great time in Cleveland and Akron and go Team USA. We'll be in Cleveland and Akron and Fairbanks and you should play the Dean clip. Oh, the Dean scream? Yeah. I found that to be very old fashioned and I'm as a representative of the people who support our LGBTQQIAAP brothers and sisters, I find this reprehensible.

44:17 Should not be participating in this. Yeah, you have it tell it to coke yeah If coke sponsors something that means there's lots of money to be made yes for sure No, yeah, no this tons of money tons of money there tons all right Let me play one clip and then we'll look at our executive producers. This is something that Solidifies an assertion by you, and I'm happy we have the proof and And I will play this for you as an ode to your intuition regarding Marie Harf. Oh, yes. What is your current thinking of her in regards to her colleague Jen Psaki? She is out to get Jen Psaki fired or moved out of that position so she could take it over. She is an ambitious blonde.

45:08 And there was a question in the August 12th press conference, which was Monday I believe, regarding Secretary of State, and I think President Barack Obama was certainly the Secretary of State's stay in Burma, in Myanmar, Burma we'll call it, at a hotel Although the hotel was not sanctioned by US sanctions, we have sanctions on everybody, the owner of the hotel does have economic sanctions on him. He's on the list. And there was a discussion report saying how can the Secretary of State John Watermelonhead Carey, JF Carey as he signs his name, how can he stay in this hotel which is owned by someone on the sanction list? And Marie's argument is

45:57 We specifically exclude hotels from sanctions even if it's owned by someone who's on the list. That's what she's trying to get away with and then she said something very interesting. If you saying this complies with the letter of the law, it certainly doesn't comply with the spirit of the sanctions. It does actually because sanctions are put on the people. in place on certain people. And you're staying at a hotel that is owned by- For doing certain things. If we had wanted to sanction the hotel, we could have done that too. And there's a reason, I'm sure, that we didn't. But how does allowing this person to benefit I think we might just have to agree to disagree on this. Encourage further reforms. Because when the Secretary of State and President Obama sit in Burma with Burmese leaders directly to their face and say, you need to do more to reform, I think that makes the case much more clearly than where the Secretary sleeps when he overnights there. But when he stays at the hotel after that meeting, it kind of sends a wink wink to the government that, yeah, well- Not at all. Not at all.

46:51 At all. We can agree to disagree on this, Elise, and I think we've probably... Right. I mean, clearly the building's not gonna profit. People profit, right? In theory, yes. I don't know why the sanctions law was written and amended the way that it was. I'm happy to check with our team. I really am to see if there's more we can share on this. Are you sure nobody was stealing towels? I'm a little perplexed. I mean, Jen Psaki might've been, you know... Jen Psaki might've been stealing towels? What yeah the one the Wow the reporter says are you sure no one was stealing towels as a joke? Yeah, our says Oh Jen Psaki might have been we can share on this. I'm sure nobody was selling towels I'm a little perplexed. I mean Jen Psaki. I don't know you know So I think you're right John and if I were Jen Psaki I'd be pissed by that comment oh, yeah sighs she's still her boss

47:46 I believe. Maybe not. Maybe they're equals. If I was on fire on the spot. Maybe they're equals, but that was inappropriate. And completely validated your thinking. Yeah, it's a double whammy I appreciate it and I thank you for your courage and I say in the morning to you John C Dvorak Well in the morning you Adam Curry in the morning all snips at she boots on the ground subs in the water Banging things here all the dames and knights out there and in the morning to everyone in the chat room no agenda stream calm good to have you all there Lined up ready to go depleting your nine point two million dollar value in the morning to our artists. Thank you Martin JJ For the album art for episode six four two the album art is extremely important it real bad album art bad results is our

48:35 Is our analysis we need good art and it's very hard to do and Artists who have been on on winning streaks for a long time. Sometimes it doesn't happen. Do not be discouraged We want to encourage you to continue with continuously I think Marj Jj went almost three years before I got one picked and then he gets him all the time, right? Something like that no agenda art generator calm is where you can find all of the art submitted We use it for newsletters. You can also print it out. It's beautiful art. You can just enjoy it It's like it's a show all to its own We do have a few people to thank for being executive producers and associate executive producers for show six four three Will be game when they're kind of long-winded Today, I'm seeing that we have we don't have so many donations that we can't read these things Brian

49:26 Someplace in Missouri. ITM, Guardians of Reality, thanks for all the value for value provided. I'm well overdue on returning it. This donation coming from the Capitol, just getting by, proven by our 630 monument to the elbow macaroni as you enter the city. So I don't know what city he's in, but. Whatever it is, there's an elbow macaroni on the outside, outskirts of town. We even have a restaurant, Cheezology, that's dedicated to mac and cheese. Why don't you look up Cheezology and figure out what town this is? That's dedicated to mac and cheese with 16 varieties, including vegetarian and vegan options. What? How can you? That doesn't make sense.

50:05 Anyways, cheese-ology.com, please send whatever karma is needed to our city at this time of chaos and riots. Militant police force, maybe he's in Ferguson. And Reverend Al adding his own brand of gasoline. He's in Missouri. Cheeseology is University City, Missouri. Okay, and I will cut his last name out as he requested in the edit. Oh Well, I'll make a note. Yeah on a sober note I look forward to your analysis of all the crap going on with the shooting of Michael Brown I see a lot using the meme no justice no peace You've also seen related to not only Trayvon Martin, but to Israel Palestine That makes sense. Yeah phrase seems to originate with what kicked off the LA Rodney King riots and

50:53 Ronnie King riots and something just hit me. Well, I'll say it after the note. Um, a similar meme No peace without justice is actually an NGO Reverend Alice been shown up preaching in the day About not being too angry and that violence will make you a traitor to the memory of Michael Brown in the evening leading chants of no justice no peace at a church and signing up young men as justice disciples He has even had a man standing behind him in a No Justice No Peace shirt with Mark Brown's picture on it. And then our friend here, Brian's got all kinds of links which we can put in the show notes. Local black leaders don't even want Sharpton around. Other stories of anonymous lynching, cyber attacks on the city and releasing personal information on the family members apparently is going on too. So, interesting mess.

51:48 I'm gonna give him a rev Al Carman. I want to make one point about something that was in his nose. There's no real conflict! You've got karma. So now that, thank you very much, Brian. Now that we've established that this receives all the media attention purely for the votes, for the, and I would agree the Democratic Party is a part of their strategy, their overall media strategy. Now the Israel Palestine Gaza conflict makes sense. Because if you're for Israel, you are clearly a crazy Republican.

52:30 You hear what I'm saying? It's a possibility. If you listen to Democracy Now and some of these other very progressive, the progressives generally speaking are free Palestine bumper sticker people. They're all over Berkeley. And you see all this stuff on the, you know, they hate Israel. They're all, you see a bunch of Democrats stickers and free Palestine, very common bumper sticker. And so that would make sense. Yeah, sure. You want to do associative analysis. So you Kind of produce something that has a ring as a bring rings that ring of truth in your world in your world a ring of truth in your world I think I think this is what this is the entire reason is being presented that way And there's them of course yeah those guys I'm surprised they haven't come up in the conversation more oh well Yeah, they got to be careful when they attack the Koch brothers to the Koch brothers and

53:26 essentially contribute to more liberal stuff than Republican stuff from what I can tell with the money they spend on PBS. Yes. And I do want to point out you've said essentially a number of times and I just want to make sure you're also catching yourself. No, I'm not even looking for it. Yeah, you should. Well, how about this for an idea? I'm going to tell you to do something that I would normally I have a distaste for. But I've realized that over time it's very good and it works. I can't do it to you because I haven't got my system rigged up with that. I can run sound through it. But I want you to hit the buzzer whenever you do that Okay, sure because it could be could be kind I find it very annoying, but I noticed I believe that it is a form of behavioral therapy

54:12 So I'm so I'm to look out for I'm gonna the words essentially I'll be the one and we're the other weird the weird I'm getting close to ending that I was out there I've got essentially because of you yes. I know it's my fault I'm I'm at fault and I'm catching myself still which means I'm on the road to recovery, but it's very difficult all right well Give me the buzzer. I'll give you the buzzer and I wanted to say that Yesterday I was on Tom Merritt's Daily Tech News show. Yeah. And he was very funny. He said, do you find this, and it was, I think it was, it must have been about a phone. It was a tech show. He said, do you find this unworldly, uncanny? I said, Tom, have you been listening to... He's been listening. He probably listened to a couple episodes before you came on. No, I think he listens a lot more. I doubt it. All right. I don't see any donations.

55:05 He gave us some good love and plugs. Yeah, okay. Well. That's a plus. Did you say there was some sort of screeching going on or something? Oh, for some reason, well he used Google Hangouts instead of Skype. I'm not sure why, but that works for that. Because he does video, I guess. And there was some kind of high-pitched whine that... because I was feeding back to him the same way I feed back to you on Skype, and I'm not sure what it was. I couldn't hear it on this end, but there was an annoying whine. And then of course, it's like, well, can't you just plug in a USB mic? Yeah, I don't have a USB mic.

55:41 And so it took me an hour and at this point I've installed Chrome, I'm doing everything I can, I'm sweating so my hair is now flat too. And I wind up, I have a Creative Labs EMU, you know, like a high-end USB interface which I can plug this mic into. And I had to download drivers and restart. This is a Mac. You had to download drivers on a Mac? But yes, and it was just, it was horrible. And so then by the time an hour later, you know, finally this is working, I'm a hot sweaty mess, but I still propagated the formula. Of course I did my job. It was for the 10th anniversary of the daily source code and podcasting. Thanks for the, for the flowers. Oh yeah, no, you got them. Did you get them? Yeah. All right. Onward. David Warner in some, another missing city, North Carolina, 30490.

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57:36 By both the government and corporations, I've been trying to do this myself, though on a somewhat smaller scale with a website I created a year ago, which may be of interest to you and your listeners. The site's called what? You pay for sports, www.whatyoupayforsports.com, and it's about the relationship between sports and cable TV. On the front page is an app with a list of cable networks that broadcast sports. Click on the check boxes next to the networks and it goes on and on about this. And you can see how much of your money gets funneled from your cable bill to a wide variety of pro and college sports leagues every year. That money gets shipped to these leagues regardless of whether you watch sports on TV or not. So as long as you get those channels, you're paying into the system. I also, which is,

58:17 I can see what is his point here. I also wrote an article on the site that details ESPN's ridiculously high charge carriage fees. If you're one of 96 million plus homes that gets it, you're You're paying $77.88 a year for those channels. It's a lot. Are all 96 million homes really turning into ESPN regularly? This is a giant numbers game that's sucking money out of people's wallets and getting them to pay for games they don't watch. This is not how media or sports is supposed to be. If you don't watch sports, cable TV is a giant ripoff and you should let your cable company know this by canceling your TV service.

58:53 Besides, why do you need to pay for cable news when you've got Crackpot and Buzzkill telling you what they're really saying? Okay. Now we go to associate executive producer- Thank you very much, David Warren. That was a very nice note. Appreciate that. Thank you for your contribution. Joseph Monty in Pittsfield, Massachusetts, 255.15. Hey guys, it's been a little way too long since my last donation, so I'm sending a full bite and a nibble to feed my guilt and support the best podcast in this or any other universe. Your show, its news analysis and insight are invaluable. Keep up the stellar work. General karma is all I request. You've got karma. Thank you. Wow, that's humbling.

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1:00:32 222.22 long overdue and well deserved if possible I'd like a scotch recommendation from John the sage of finer things preferably something affordable to us slaves unlike previous recommendations for Lafroig 30 which cost about a thousand dollars a bottle hey when I when I had Lafroig I remember when Lafroig 30 was 350 bucks And it was well worth that, but a thousand bucks is way too much. But gas was 50 cents a gallon back then, John. You know, I think a good starter Scotch is reasonably priced. It's a little more expensive than the typical 12. But I think, you know, start off with McAllen, 12 year old. Yes. If you can get McAllen, if you can

1:01:12 decide to afford McCallon 18. How much is a McCallon 12? I was given a bottle of McCallon 12 as a gift. Yeah. I thought it was extremely tasty. I don't think it was, you know, was it any less than an 18? I don't think so. The 18 is a little smoother, a little more scotchy. It's a very, it's a almost a definitive 18, but the McCallon 12 is a very good scotch to start with. And you can start to explore a little bit after you, you know, you get used to it. And by the way, last night, Miss Mickey and I, you know, I'm finishing up prep. It's like 1130 and we're sitting outside and she says, Oh, would you like a drink? Say, Oh yeah, I'd love a, you know, I'd love a scotch. And she gives me the Jack Daniels and she says, Oh boy, that McCallon is good. And what?

1:02:03 Oh, she finished off the Macallan and gave me the Jack. Smart woman. She gave you the Jack? Yep, she Jacked me. She Jacked me. I'll give one to myself. So make your recommendation. What do you think it should be? Macallan 12. Yeah, okay. Good recommendation. What would that run for, Macallan 12? I don't think it's 40. Okay, very affordable. And it is the official drink of Miss Mickey. There you go. Yeah, sanctioned. There's other, you know, scotch is a bottomless pit of interest, so you get into it, you know, you can find some of your favorites, and there's a lot of scotches that are tasty. I believe I've told you that I, for Sheflin Somerset, one of my very first clients in 1993, 94, we built Scotch.com, had the URL and everything. Oh, Scotch.com, that URL's worth more money than the company was.

1:03:03 Well, we registered for them. It was not something we owned, but I had the, for a longest time, we would get the, because they'd import all those single malts, the classic single malts. And I think they had Oban, they had certainly McAllen, they had, what else did they have? I think they had the, they're the importers of all of it as far as I know. They had a bar back, which they would put down at the office filled. Nice. Yeah. Good client. I don't remember much of the meetings. I'm sure. Our last associate executive producer is Nadine Zanotti in Covina, California. $200 and she has a very interesting note. I have not contributed to the show in a while, so here it is. Please de-douche me. Okay. You've been de-douched.

1:03:57 And please call out my husband, Aaron Marino, for not contributing. Oh no! Douchebag! Sorry, but I have to do what is right. Thank you for your courage. Need to give anybody... Need to give everybody a karma shot. She says, merci pour votre courage, is what she says, actually. You translate it on the fly. You've got karma. Wow, I hope that turns out okay there in the household. I'm sure hopefully I'm sure all the air and it'll be chuckling to himself. I'm sure he will it'll probably go like this Hey, I'm the only one working in this house. That's my money. Oh wow now You're just presuming something or assuming something that is very wrong. Yeah. I know it was bad Luckily we don't have sponsors. I want to promote two quick things obviously the Daily Tech News show 2299

1:04:52 I'm on for the full show. It aired yesterday and Tom Merritt was very gracious. Promotion of this show. Well, first we did some news and yes, there was a phone that we had that we could talk about. So I was very excited, obviously. That's exactly what I did. Wee! A phone! Tech news! And we talked about podcasting and it was just in general was very nice. And so I appreciate that. And I have a picture I'd like everyone to take a look at. This is one of our producers who drives across country very frequently and I want you to take a look at his car. And you can find this at itm.im slash three three car. Have a look, John. Itm.im slash

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1:07:30 That is meant to make you feel good. What was that article that you referred to in the newsletter? I'll set it up with a jingle. For a healthy balanced news diet, try noagendashow.com. Yeah. What about it? Well, not everyone receives the newsletter. Maybe you could explain what that was referring to. I'm not sure. The New York Magazine article, what all this bad news is doing to us. Oh, right. Yeah. Bad. Yeah. The news media. Somebody sent this in, one of our producers. Apparently, if you... and there's a link to it in the newsletter.

1:08:20 Apparently, if you, of course I think this has been known and I think we've discussed it, this happens every so often, about once every year somebody does a study on this, that people that watch the network news and all the rest of these operations, the cable news, in fact I have a number of clips here that will kind of prove the point. Oh good, goody goody. They get depressed. Yes. And they get bummed out. And we don't, you know, and it's just a bad, it's because of the short, I believe it's because of the short circuiting of your logic. And it's in the presentation We give you the same information, although from a different aspect and usually with more factual... Different perspective. Different perspective. It is the presentation, I think, that is making people really sick. It's not just the news as it is, but how it's brought and how it's pounded and how it's filmed and angles and voiced over and all of that. Well, and also I get one other thing here, which is what I'm going to point out with these four clips from Sean Hannity. Oh, goodness.

1:09:16 Is that they lie to you. Yes. They twist the stories, they lie, and they have agendas. And the worst agenda... I mean this... Sean Hannity to me is essentially... Hold on a second, let me just... Essentially. Sean Hannity to me... Where did I use it? You missed it. You said Sean Hannity to me is essentially... And I hit the buzzer. I'm just trying to figure out where it was in the sentence. Because you beat me at the end of it. You didn't, you got to have your finger on the trigger. You got to interrupt me with that. Yes, sir. Okay. Sean Hannity is a stooge for the Republican Party in much the same way. And I would say he's an analog.

1:10:01 of the Rev. It's probably the biggest insult I could throw at the guy. But he is exactly the same way. He just pushes some sort of agenda of some sort. And let's play a couple of clips and let's go over these. you know, by doing some little research on the Flyers, we go and discuss this. Now he has got a bunch of different people on, and a couple I don't have, clips I didn't get because I have too many clips, where he shouts people down who are trying to be reasonable. He has this one woman on who comes on to discuss the notion that if you're a Christian, you have to convert or die.

1:10:46 That meme is around, you've heard it. And supposedly ISIS is going around telling Christians that they have to convert or die. And this is being promoted by the right-wing press. Now this woman actually... And let's just say that this is the, as you said, the analog to the Rev. This is to promote a presumably Republican... Get the vote out. Get people to vote Republican. Exactly. Find a reason to have Republicans on the show to get them to vote for you, right? So yes. So I want to play this Hannity convert or die. And then we're going to do a little research on what they're talking about here. There's a woman that comes on and she discusses... Now my understanding of studying Islam is that when you're a Christian community,

1:11:35 in an Islamic state, you can remain so, but you have to pay an exorbitant tax. Now these guys supposedly are rousting everybody. But that never made any sense. So this woman actually says what is going on and actually is another thing you should watch. No, it's okay. It's all right. I'll let you slide. She is saying exactly what's going on and he sent... Come on, man. You're on the buzzer. I didn't say anything. I said, okay, SO gasoline. Yes.

1:12:14 She tells it like it is and he kind of moves to the next person without acknowledging anything She says this is the convert or die clear other Forces can come and save them Julie. Let me ask you let me ask Julie this question Explain the choice as people now have been pushed out of their homes and are in desperate need of humanitarian help Explain the choice that they were giving convert to Islam or die. I Yes, unlike the Christians, ISIS sees these people as apostates. So the Christians were given the choice of either flee or stay and pay taxes.

1:12:58 converted to Islam. Unlike them, the Yazidis were given just the choice of you could convert or you're going to be dying. Let me go back to you Mark. We showed some tape here. Really? Okay. Let me go back to you Mark. Yeah. Alright, so let's go to Wikipedia and look up the Yazidis. Oh, well then in that case we need to Are these not the devil worshippers John? This is an interesting group actually. It's a y-e-z-i-d-i I think is one way of spelling it. It's got a bunch of different ways And these are the people that are up on the mountain Yes, and these are the people that we were led to believe by the media are a bunch of

1:13:42 Christians? Yes, in fact the Pope sent a cardinal to go and be a part of the solution. Now the actual Christians in the area are Chaldeans. And the other guy who's on here is a Chaldean, and she's a Yazidi. And the Yazidis are actually Muslims. It's a form of Sufism combined with Shia, or some people say there's a Zoroastrianism, and it's all in the wikis, you've got two or three different entries for this operation. and it's spelled differently. And they have, they are considered apostates by the Sunnis. The Sunnis in Pakistan have the same thing with another group. What is an apostate? Apostate means that you're not a believer. You were, or you should be, because you're kind of part of the clan, but you've gone off the deep end by going into these cults.

1:14:45 Curiously, by the way, I should mention that if you do any real research on the Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda is Sufi. And I think it could be argued that they're apostates too, but that's another debate that takes place elsewhere and we're not going to do it on this show. These people who argue over these differences in religion, they need reality television man they need something to keep them busy. They don't have enough television that's for sure. Whatever the case is these these are the people that are on top of the mountain that we've been led to believe are Christians that have been run out of the neighborhood and and then now they're critical of Obama that Republicans are. The Republicans are promoting this by the way. The Republicans are now... For votes, for votes. Are irked by the

1:15:29 We went and bombed this area that there's a lot of Americans and there are actually Christians, the Chaldeans and others in that in the little town that's also an oil center in Kurdistan. And we haven't done anything for these people on the mountain because these and we've been led to believe they're Christians. They're not Christians. They're Yazidi. It's different. And if you... I was reading in one of the... if you read some of the Christian publications, they try to make the claim that there's some connection to Christianity with these folks. There is none. And let us be blatantly honest. If they're not real Christians, screw them.

1:16:09 That's essentially what Obama must be thinking. How about their people? Their people! Their brown people! We could do something for them, but I'm not going to do it under the guise of bullshit. Right. That's what bothers me. I think, yeah, sure, let's go rescue these guys. Yeah, just because they're people, they're human beings, not because they're Christians or whatever. But let's reread from the book of knowledge. Yazidi Kurds have a Kurdish culture. According to some sources, their religion is linked to ancient Zoroastrianism and Sufism, while other sources view their religion as a combination of Shia and Sufi Islam with indigenous regional folk traditions. Like their garb, just in a funny way. They live primarily on the province of Nineveh province of northern Iraq.

1:16:58 a region once part of ancient Assyria, and they're also considered part of this Assyrians, Assyrians. Right. Along with the Caladians are too. So anyway, so this is a lie. And so this woman brings out the fact that the Christians are given the opportunity to pay taxes. They're not just said convert or die. It's these guys who have to convert or die. Right. So, let's bring this up right away. So, Hannity, let's just say this, and it goes right to the next person, doesn't say anything. Right, hey Mark. So we go to part two where Hannity's got to put up this other bowl of crap, which is just disgusting. Hannity, decapitation part two.

1:16:09 That's essentially what Obama must be thinking. How about their people? Their people! Their brown people! We could do something for them, but I'm not going to do it under the guise of bullshit. Right. That's what bothers me. I think, yeah, sure, let's go rescue these guys. Yeah, just because they're people, they're human beings, not because they're Christians or whatever. But let's reread from the book of knowledge. Yazidi Kurds have a Kurdish culture. According to some sources, their religion is linked to ancient Zoroastrianism and Sufism, while other sources view their religion as a combination of Shia and Sufi Islam with indigenous regional folk traditions. Like their garb, just in a funny way. They live primarily on the province of Nineveh province of northern Iraq.

1:16:58 a region once part of ancient Assyria, and they're also considered part of this Assyrians, Assyrians. Right. Along with the Caladians are too. So anyway, so this is a lie. And so this woman brings out the fact that the Christians are given the opportunity to pay taxes. They're not just said convert or die. It's these guys who have to convert or die. Right. So, let's bring this up right away. So, Hannity, let's just say this, and it goes right to the next person, doesn't say anything. Right, hey Mark. So we go to part two where Hannity's got to put up this other bowl of crap, which is just disgusting. Hannity, decapitation part two.

1:17:37 Yes, I have some stuff to say about that later too. So wait, wait, wait, wait, stop start with let's try Decapitated when Hannity and their capitated kids right makes sense Tell us what they're telling you because I keep reading about children being decapitated their heads being put on post one kid cut in half I mean atrocities to women on a scale that we've not seen since Nazi Germany. Oh, yes. Oh, yes great way to go bring in the nazis but it brings in the visualization uh... but no facts of any sort now I've heard. Children cut in half. I like the guy cut, the kid cut in half. Let's, there's a child, let's cut him in half. Surely the president will be doing a press conference any moment now about the child cut in half. Well, doesn't seem likely. Anyway, Hannity Decapitation Part 2 and there's some guy, this is a guy I believe is a Kaledian. Yes, absolutely. There are a thousand... Stop, stop, stop. You gotta play, I gotta set this up. Okay.

1:18:33 You heard part one. Yes. He says, tell me about the kids cut in half and the heads on a stick. Yes. Now listen what the guy says about the kids cut in half and the heads on a stick. It's a new snack from the Bisco. Yes, absolutely. There are thousands of children, women, elderly who are dying from the starvation and from the thirst in past eight to nine days. There are, you know, the people in Sinjar had the only safe heaven, which was the Sinjar mountain at the morning of Sunday. And they were cut in half. I didn't hear him say that. There's no cut in half. There's no decapitation. They're starving to death now. Well, this is... Make up your mind! Do we... We need video of this cut in half. This is no good.

1:19:23 So we have, now here's Hannity and the 40,000 dead clip. I would invite people to do the math on the fly. As this guy chats about this isn't Israel those that want to wipe Israel off the map aren't they fading facing those that have a desire for a caliphate isn't convert or die a push by now the most radical Islamic Radicals that are out there isn't that a push for gen their genocide isn't that an example of a caliphate that they're pushing sure You know it absolutely is. Because ISIS knows no boundaries. They just changed their name to ICE. They're going country to country and they want to eradicate Christianity. How can the CIA director of this president be so wrong? He was completely out of touch. And I can tell you from my people that are being massacred because they're refusing to convert.

1:20:13 all they want right now is a chance to live and we're asking... How many people do you estimate have been massacred? Thousands. We at least, every day, around 500 since it started. Wow. So you're talking eight weeks and 500, 40,000 at least. Do you think 40,000 so far, 40,000 people have been slaughtered? Either slaughtered or died because they don't have food, water, diapers, clothes. This is a global humanitarian crisis and the next president, whether it be Rubio or Clinton, they would have to fix this problem. I think 4,000 is closer to the reality than 40,000. Based on his method, based on the 500 a day for eight weeks, that would be 28,000. Right. A day. Not 40. Not 40. Right. Now, whatever the case is, Hannity was all over again, this is just a blast of the Democrats, of this thing. This is the Hannity goes after Brennan. He's basing what he just said, the caliphate, which is...

1:21:06 They're going from country to country, country to country. They're in Iraq. I don't know what country to country they're talking about, but whatever the case is. This is what he cites as the classic, the Obama boneheads. Brennan is an idiot and the CIA is full of crap. They don't know what they're talking about. He's out of touch, as the other guy said. Now, I want you to listen. This is one of the few things I've ever heard Brennan say that I actually agree with. He nails it. They taunt America, they taunt Europe. You see young kids that have been brainwashed and indoctrinated into this radicalism and they talk about the caliphate. John Brennan, CIA director back in 2011, I'm going to play the tape, literally said, senior advisor to Obama, said that the idea of an Islamic caliphate is absurd. I want to play you his words and get your reaction to this. Let's roll this tape.

1:21:55 Our strategy is also shaped by a deeper understanding of Al Qaeda's goals, strategy and tactics that we have gained over the last decade. I'm not talking about Al Qaeda's grandiose vision of global domination through a violent Islamic caliphate. That vision is absurd and we are not going to organize our counter-terrorism policies against a feckless delusion that is never going to happen. We're not going to elevate these thugs and their murderous aspirations into something larger than they are. Hmm. I'm all in on that. Nice. So this guy essentially is

1:22:43 a troublemaker full of crap, you know, he's just short of Sharpton because he doesn't go out into the streets and cause trouble. But it's the same thing. This is lies, innuendo, groomer-mongering. It's terrible. This guy really is terrible. And he's just like, like I said, she's the analog of Sharpton on the other side. And it's all about votes. I would say probably yes. He's the big pusher of the republic. He's the biggest promoter of the republican agenda than anyone. The other guys all claim they're semi-independent or they're... Bullcrap. They're saying Fox is all in on getting... We know what Fox is, we know. It's the democrat front, that's the reason this guy stands out like a sore thumb.

1:23:33 So I'm going to play a couple clips which relate to this and the promotion of not necessarily... well, the people who you'll be hearing from of course are also looking for votes. But first we need to go to one of our good old friends... KAAAGAN! Fred Kagan, who has some... I think this was on Fox, he has some interesting insider info and please note that the Kagans are part of the neoconservative movement who believe there is an order in the world and the order is run by them and it includes knocking people into line however they need to do it through propaganda and through death. Look, we may be weary of war but war is not weary of us. What? Yeah, that's a good one. We may be weary of war but war is not weary of us. But war is not weary of us.

1:24:26 And the problem is that we have an Al Qaeda splinter group here that it clearly has and our intelligence community has clearly indicated that it has the intention to attack Americans and probably to attack America and it has established de facto a state. This is the first time we've ever seen an Al Qaeda state like this that has control over a major city and its resources that acquired radioactive materials from research institutions in mosul they've radioactive materials uh-oh where you would have a dirty bomb in america weaponry um and so on that has an army um and that is a real serious threat to the united states of america and to our allies in the region and outside and if we don't take action

1:25:13 to reign this in, then we have effectively decided that we actually are okay with having an Al Qaeda state with an Al Qaeda army in control of major population centers. Yeah, and we can't have that, of course. We can't have that. Never mind that we run these people and we gave them the weapons and we gave them money and we set them up in Syria, we're sending them back to Syria. Never mind all that. Here is Senator Lindsey Graham, and he is these one of these that cheerleader man. He loves this We need of course to of course we need to go out and fight Isis or is as you I think they they've rebranded is and for some reason now people are

1:25:58 the spokesholes are just now catching up to where we were months ago and they're saying ISIS or ISIL pick whichever one you want. No, no, no, you don't get to pick. It's IS, Islamic State. That's the new branding. Okay. That is what you need to stick to. Yeah, that was a screw up to begin with. They had to rebrand. It's like bringing out the new Coke. Disaster. Senator Graham, are you saying we should go back to war in Iraq? I'm saying that Iraq Iraq and Syria combined represent a direct threat to our homeland. The day the president raised his right hand to become president for a second time, his constitutional responsibility as commander in chief trumps any political promise.

1:26:39 What is going on in Washington when the FBI director, when the head of national intelligence, the CIA, the Homeland Security Secretary tells every member of Congress, including the president, we're about to be attacked in a serious way because of the threat emanating from Syria and Iraq? His responsibility as president is to defend this nation. If he does not go on the offensive against ISIS, ISIL, whatever you want to call these guys, they are coming here. This is just not about Baghdad. This is just not about Syria. It is about our homeland. And if we get attacked because he has no strategy to protect us, then he will have committed a blunder for the ages.

1:27:22 Hold on a second. Yes, thank you. Are these people clinically insane? Yes. They have no Navy. How are they going to get over here? They have no Air Force. There's a bunch of rag tag a-holes shooting up the place in the back of pickup trucks. How are they getting over here? Well, this is what it would they come over here? What is troubling to me? Are they kidding us? Does Graham take the public? This is the problem with the Republicans. They think everyone's an idiot. Well, let me add John McCain to the mix then. Well, these people that are coming to fight on the side of ISIS are returning to their countries in Europe, and there's a hundred of them that we are tracking in the United States. As I mentioned to you already, one was in Syria, came back to the United States, and then went back to Syria and blew himself up.

1:26:39 What is going on in Washington when the FBI director, when the head of national intelligence, the CIA, the Homeland Security Secretary tells every member of Congress, including the president, we're about to be attacked in a serious way because of the threat emanating from Syria and Iraq? His responsibility as president is to defend this nation. If he does not go on the offensive against ISIS, ISIL, whatever you want to call these guys, they are coming here. This is just not about Baghdad. This is just not about Syria. It is about our homeland. And if we get attacked because he has no strategy to protect us, then he will have committed a blunder for the ages.

1:27:22 Hold on a second. Yes, thank you. Are these people clinically insane? Yes. They have no Navy. How are they going to get over here? They have no Air Force. There's a bunch of rag tag a-holes shooting up the place in the back of pickup trucks. How are they getting over here? Well, this is what it would they come over here? What is troubling to me? Are they kidding us? Does Graham take the public? This is the problem with the Republicans. They think everyone's an idiot. Well, let me add John McCain to the mix then. Well, these people that are coming to fight on the side of ISIS are returning to their countries in Europe, and there's a hundred of them that we are tracking in the United States. As I mentioned to you already, one was in Syria, came back to the United States, and then went back to Syria and blew himself up.

1:28:13 Mr. Baghdadi, the leader of ISIS, when he left our camp, Bukha, the camp in Iraq, said, see you in New York. If you read what they're saying, we are the enemy, they want to destroy us. They're getting stronger all the time. They're attracting- They're saying, see you in New York, he was probably going to be a tourist. Yes. A thousand young men from around the world who are now fighting on their side. This ISIS is metastasizing throughout the region. Cancer. And their goal, as they have stated openly time after time, is the destruction of the United States of America. And it's not John McCain that's saying it. It's the director of national intelligence. It sounds like John McCain. John McCain. John McCain. The attorney general.

1:28:58 Yeah, okay, I got one more. I got another one along these lines. Here we have Anderson Pooper. He's got this ISIS analysis going on and then he brings in our guy. Bob Baird. Got it. You say that there's a significant risk of retaliatory attacks inside the United States if American forces take out a large number of ISIS fighters. Do you really believe that? I've heard that and the thing is there are Americans that have gone to Syria and Iraq to fight with ISIS. They have American passports, they can easily come back to the country. American passport. We've been over this for a long time. Number two, I'm hearing from officials on the Mexican border that they believe, and I can't confirm this, that ISIS members are coming back that don't have American passports walking across the border. They said it's a significant threat and they clearly have bad intentions.

1:29:50 And so I think the level of terrorism, while not absolutely certain, has gone way up here at the threat of it. Bobby, in terms of other jihadist organizations we've seen, where does ISIS raid? But I think they're off the charts. I think they make everything that's come before them seem tame and because Because in terms of efficiency and organization you can compare them with the Taliban In terms of sheer brutality. This is a new low. I can't think of any other terrorist group Even Al-Qaeda that seems to enjoy the act of slaughtering people as much as these guys do. Alright, stop. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. This is crazy. This is just crazy. These people need to be bound, gagged, tarred and feathered, driven out of town, driven. Television needs, you need to go and shut down these television stations violently if necessary. This is terrorism of the highest degree

1:30:51 Terrorism, Anderson Cooper, I'm looking at you, terrorism that you are now enacting on the small group but still the viewers. It is being propagated by the terrorists, McCain and Lindsey Graham. They are terrorizing the American people, enabled by the completely compromised terrorist television propaganda networks. This is not okay anymore. So what are you saying? Anderson Cooper, please, the logical question is, what do we do if all this is taking place and our obvious police state is not working, it is not able to stop the people who are, these people who enjoy slaughtering children, cutting them in half, what is the logical next step? Should we just

1:31:39 Annihilate the Middle East? Should we just make it one firebomb, one big nuclear wasteland? What else do we do? We've already verbalized it. What else do we do? This turns my stomach, this horrible propaganda, this terrorism, this is terrorizing people. Stop it! By the way, I want to mention with Bob Barr, the CIA guy who is now an analyst for CNN, he's a pro so he knows how to not really do too many tells, but I watched his two or three times.

1:32:19 At the very beginning of his little, of his lies, I heard this, I heard that, it's what I heard. He does a, just a, he couldn't help himself. A little, a little eyeball to the right, just a little bit, just a little eyeball to the right. Little tongue popping out. I'm gonna be lying now, no tongue, but just the eyeball thing, it was just really subtle, but I had to watch it two or three times to catch it. It's very quick. He could not keep it, keep from doing that. I guess he's, you know, needs to be slapped around by... Now when it comes down to the question I just asked, I think the obvious question is, is our goal now to wipe out these horrible, this horrible IS, Islamic State, formerly known as ISIL, ISIS, take your pick. Thank you, Lindsey Graham.

1:31:39 Annihilate the Middle East? Should we just make it one firebomb, one big nuclear wasteland? What else do we do? We've already verbalized it. What else do we do? This turns my stomach, this horrible propaganda, this terrorism, this is terrorizing people. Stop it! By the way, I want to mention with Bob Barr, the CIA guy who is now an analyst for CNN, he's a pro so he knows how to not really do too many tells, but I watched his two or three times.

1:32:19 At the very beginning of his little, of his lies, I heard this, I heard that, it's what I heard. He does a, just a, he couldn't help himself. A little, a little eyeball to the right, just a little bit, just a little eyeball to the right. Little tongue popping out. I'm gonna be lying now, no tongue, but just the eyeball thing, it was just really subtle, but I had to watch it two or three times to catch it. It's very quick. He could not keep it, keep from doing that. I guess he's, you know, needs to be slapped around by... Now when it comes down to the question I just asked, I think the obvious question is, is our goal now to wipe out these horrible, this horrible IS, Islamic State, formerly known as ISIL, ISIS, take your pick. Thank you, Lindsey Graham.

1:33:08 Is it our goal to annihilate them, to wipe them out, to pound these guys down because they cut children in half, they rape women, they hang men, forget all the oil stuff that's really this about, but just forget all that. And this is the appropriate question asked at the State Department of Marie Harf. Ooh, yeah. Yes, thank you. The Iraqi security forces working with the Kurds need to regroup and they need to retrain and they need to re-equip and we're going to help them do that. But at the end of the day, that's really the long-term strategy here. So Marie, as a long-term goal then, is it the goal of the United States to defeat ISIS? Well clearly we want to see this terrorist group not be able to threaten people anymore. I know you want to, but is that the goal? Is it the goal of the United States to defeat it?

1:34:09 Well, of course the goal is to defeat them operationally, yes. But what does that mean when you're looking at a terrorist group? Yeah, what does that mean? What does that mean when you're looking at their ideology? If you look very specifically at what they've done in Iraq, what we want to do is not allow them to take more territory, not allow them to move on Erbil, of course, further down towards Baghdad, and help the Iraqis push them back, basically retake territory. So we're helping the Iraqis do that now. But it's a broader question. Look, you're always going to have a terrorist threat. It's how you contain it and it's how you, when they try to go after your interests as we've seen them do in Syria, in Iraq, how we can bring our capabilities to bear to fight that. It's different every place you look and you have to use different tools to fight that threat. Yeah, you know what that is, Marie Harf?

1:34:56 Bullshit big bunch of steaming pile of it. You are a horrible person just lying go away What is she even talking about? Big generality now, this is the shot heard around the world and I have a debunking of it Can I stop you for a second? Sure I want to mention that you'd think one of the things that I've said this before I'll say it again It was maybe I said it maybe six seven eight shows ago I We've always had these issues with asymmetric warfare, where you don't have an enemy that doesn't have an operational headquarters. It's scattered, it's networked, it's the idea of the Al-Qaeda network, there's no place you can bomb. This ISIS, whatever you want to call it, advertising,

1:35:47 This operation is setting up shop as a country, as a caliphate, they want to call it a caliphate, but they're essentially just a part of Baghdad, a part of Iraq and part in the eastern part of Syria. So which is an old section of the map. If you look in the maps before the 19, before World War I. Which is exactly where they want them, where we want them to block any pipeline activity going across. And it would be a good spot for them to be. And this is not anything to do, but they're operational as a unitary government with a central location, a headquarters. This is the kind of thing that we can fight against, because we can just bomb them into oblivion, knowing where all their offices are. So I don't see how this is remotely any sort of threat under any circumstances. This is a negative threat. This is less of a threat than random characters.

1:36:40 And again, with 100 Americans that have passports that have been fought in Syria, probably half of which are spies, we're tracking them. We know where they are. When they come back, we'll just keep an eye on them. It's not a big deal. This is nonsense. No, it is terrorism propagated by the political elite to garner votes, of course, to continue their power and to further their agenda, which is that of energy turf and hookers and blow. And here is watermelon head John Kerry, John F. Kerry, who I now am beginning to despise. And he is, this is, this is... The more you know him, the less you like him. Yep. And this is being touted, this clip of him in fact, but also the pictures, you've seen it on the social medias, you've seen it on the book faces, all that stuff. This image, perhaps even an iconic photograph. Iconic! That Julia has just referred to, is really one of the most disturbing, stomach-turning, grotesque

1:37:44 photographs ever displayed. No, it's not Kerry's passport picture of a seven year old child holding a severed head up with pride and with this with the with the support and encouragement of a parent. with brothers there. Now this is fantastic. Finally they've got something that really really works because every parent can find empathy for this. Empathy and disgust and fear and a million emotions. You've got children, you've got gory severed heads, you've got everything you want is finally in this. This is really really good.

1:38:23 That child should be in school, that child should be out learning about the future, that child should be playing. That child should be at Foxconn making iPhones. With other kids, not holding a separate head and out in the field. He should not be holding a separate head, I'm telling you, this is not a good thing, no. This is utterly disgraceful and this ideology is without one uh... redeeming quality of offering people a job or health care system or an education or anything other than saying don't live any other way but the way we tell you.

1:39:00 Jobs, health care and education. This is like the Obama talking points. Yeah, and he relates it to this is how it works You shock people you create you open up their minds with we know an emotion know that that photo wasn't actually produced in a studio at Well, thank you for asking I have from Australia I have a report it was a very long very detailed report which I've cut down to two minutes It was 11 minutes long. I think it's important that we hear this this report, the child apparently is a son of Khalid Sharouf, an Australian, who is not... well, in fact, if you listen to this report, he's pretty much an actor.

1:39:44 and with very low mental capacity and it brings the entire credibility of this picture and the occurrences into question. This week the image of an Australian boy holding a severed head became an international symbol of the brutality of the militant group now known as the Islamic State. The seven-year-old is the son of an Australian terrorist, Khaled Sharouf, a minor player in the country's biggest terrorism plot, who took himself and his children to the killing fields of Syria earlier this year. Sharouf styles himself an Islamic warrior, but in fact he's a former drug addict and petty criminal with a long history of mental illness, a pathology

1:40:25 pathetic figure in the words of the judge who sentenced him to jail. Khaled Sharouf first came to public notice in 2005 when he was charged with eight other Sydney men over the biggest terrorism plot in Australian history. Raids at Sharouf's southwest Sydney house uncovered instructions on how to make bombs, two dozen bottles of chemical precursors for explosives and videos of beheadings and executions. Sharouf was charged with possessing items to be used for a terrorist act. Six clocks and 140 batteries he stole from a local Big W store. Please know that that was what he was charged with, with stealing clocks and batteries. And he had some like shampoo. And it was a laughing stock this matter. We covered it on the show. It was just funny. And these guys didn't go away forever. It was just, you know, hey, you're not doing the right thing.

1:41:22 bomb-making materials, you've downloaded the stupid PDF and you got batteries and clocks. Boo-hoo! Sydney Barrister, Charles Water Street represented one of the other men charged and observed Sharouf in court. The one characteristic that I observed was that he was really a class clown. That much of his attitude and much of his tactics with the other group was to get a laugh. And one Notice the words.

1:42:04 Iraq if one had to pick it. He's clearly over there playing a role of the master terrorist when he's anything but of course, you know, he's a very sad, pathetic figure. He remains a highly unintelligent man who has no perception of himself. He is in fact no threat to us in a real sense. Now the only danger he represents I think is that he is cast as a sort of proselytiser of this radical Islam image and Facebook and Twitter and all that sort of thing.

1:42:46 carry that message across here to young men who might be in the position he was. Young men who are angry, dissatisfied, rebellious, looking for a cause. The guy is a phony. Phony baloney, and I don't believe for a minute that this picture is portraying the accurate story, let me put it that way. We have no proof. And all we have is more pictures from social media, YouTube videos, which has become synonymous with proof and fact, and it is not.

1:43:22 It is not... Think about this people. I'm going to talk to you directly. When you post a picture of yourself on Facebook, we call it a selfie, how many times did you retake the picture? What filters did you add? What did you crop out? You are posting lies about yourself on social media. But these lies are deemed as truth by your friends. You are living a lie and you are now being manipulated by the very same tactics you yourself use, which is why you accept it. Thank you. I knew you'd like that. And quite honestly, you should be ashamed of yourself. But you can't help it. Well, you can't, you know, you people are harangued by the media with this bull crap.

1:42:46 carry that message across here to young men who might be in the position he was. Young men who are angry, dissatisfied, rebellious, looking for a cause. The guy is a phony. Phony baloney, and I don't believe for a minute that this picture is portraying the accurate story, let me put it that way. We have no proof. And all we have is more pictures from social media, YouTube videos, which has become synonymous with proof and fact, and it is not.

1:43:22 It is not... Think about this people. I'm going to talk to you directly. When you post a picture of yourself on Facebook, we call it a selfie, how many times did you retake the picture? What filters did you add? What did you crop out? You are posting lies about yourself on social media. But these lies are deemed as truth by your friends. You are living a lie and you are now being manipulated by the very same tactics you yourself use, which is why you accept it. Thank you. I knew you'd like that. And quite honestly, you should be ashamed of yourself. But you can't help it. Well, you can't, you know, you people are harangued by the media with this bull crap.

1:44:19 What can you do you I mean even the staunchest no agenda listener who has a clue and they kind of get it we pointed this out in the newsletter, you know, you can see that most of this but you turn on this stuff and then you starts coming at you and coming at you and coming at you and Believe me it happens to us. Yes, of course. Only one of us will go and buy into some bullcrap and It doesn't happen a lot because we're so conscientious, we actually spend too much time listening to the other stuff before we venture into Hannity. Well, it's even worse than that because we, of course, become cynical and wary of everything, which pretty much ruins my life. How about you? I've always been this way. Yeah. Well, good. I've always been this grouchy guy who should be retired, according to Ryan Block. Hey, you know, can I say something?

1:45:11 You know, I am not one for violence. But I will stand up for you. And this Ryan Blockhead, you gotta stop this man. Stop this. Don't talk about my friend like that. But it's like, I stand up for you. I know you do, but no one says anything nasty about me. Wow. No one says anything about delusions? Yeah. But the point is that this is rough. This is a rough go and that picture and then when you have government officials... But it's even worse. The picture is now pixelated. It's now pixelated. You can barely find the original picture anymore. So you can't do any analysis of it. It's astonishing to me that this is... the point we're at is beyond... it's... I don't know what to say. It's depressing in some odd way.

1:46:09 Okay, I got a little side thing we can do just a little bit because I want you know I was thinking about this how much analysis do we listen and we listen we were on C-SPAN we're getting stuff from overseas I got I have a little clip from the Finnish radio show. Wow. That somebody says I have the one part that's that we need to hear but I'm thinking, how good are... This is not Ask Adam. This one is Guess the Spokeshole. We don't have a jingle for Guess the Spokeshole. Well, we might eventually. Now, this is not really a spokeshole. This is a government official, and I want to play this clip. I want you to identify the person. Try to ignore the um, uh, uh, uh part of it, and tell me who this is.

1:46:59 You were relatively modest in touting your commitment to increase another five billion of investment in Africa. And I just want to thank you and applaud Coca-Cola's leadership and its partnership with the New Alliance for Food Security and Nutrition, which is an effort that many in this room have joined the United States and some of our partners internationally in supporting. It is bringing opportunity and food security to people all over the continent, in particular to women and women farmers.

1:47:40 I recognize the voice. I know you would. I knew this, you know, when I heard this, I thought about this as a gimmick on the show and I said, I know you could get it, but I don't think you will because it's slightly out of context. It's someone that we really haven't been talking about. It sounds like it. Well, there's it's funny the at first and I'm I'm recognizing the voice the it's in an auditorium. So it's a little you know, the Africa and the security. It's a little bit of out of context for me normally. Initially, I want to say this has got to be one of these Silicon Valley women. That's what I initially thought. Yeah, no. Then I thought Valerie Jarrett is what I thought. Close. Susan Rice. Wow. Yeah, she has the it's the cadence. But

1:48:28 Oh man, I could have known that I think. You would have, I knew you'd recognize the voice. That was a dirty trick. That was a dirty trick I just played. Yeah, that was a good one though. Oh yeah. Because I heard her too and I'm thinking, first of all, why is she there? And what is she talking about? And why is she kissing Coca-Cola's butt? Well, you know, this is the national security advisor for Obama who used to be, of course, for people out there who are keeping score, a UN or UN spokeshole. And then they were going to make her secretary of state and then the Republicans or somebody submarine that. She's an idiot.

1:49:05 And she is, is she also four foot ten like Madeline Albright? She's a shorty. Yeah, I think so. I don't know what her height is, but she's definitely a shorty. It is. Sorry, I'm sorry I did that to you. No, that's okay. Just listening to that actually didn't, it made me more depressed. It did not, did not, did not make me any happier. It did not make me happier because it's just, Is there a way out, man? Are we gonna see any end to this insanity? No, this show would be over. Well, shush! We wouldn't have a show, this is great stuff. Well, this is true. But holy macaroni!

1:49:50 It just never ends. You've never seen it this bad, have you? Never seen this this bad. Historically, since I was a student of history, it's pretty much par for the course. We just happen to be digging into...we're in a period where the smoke screen is so extreme that when you go and you have to...when you dig under the smoke screen and start to uncover the bull crap, It just looks like it's horrible, but I don't think it's any different than it's ever been. My feeling is what is a national, an international health disaster is social media. It is an international health disaster. I think that WHO woman, that Hong Kong Chinese person who's weird, should call it such.

1:50:39 No, social media, that's the one thing that's different. The social media has exacerbated, it has amplified everything. It's made everything worse. And it's actually, and I think it's hurt people more than anything else. Yes, yes. I mean, the over the fence gossip from the farming communities got nothing on this. Yeah, yeah. It is an international health disaster of epidemic proportion. epidemic proportion. It even uses the same terms as a pandemic, such as viral. Right, that's a great, great point. You know, we can probably continue this analysis.

1:51:20 But when I say that people are living a lie or perhaps the lie is the life, I'm not quite sure which way to look at it, when you must realize that you are not living in reality, you are not portraying reality, you are portraying a version of yourself that you approve of Which is not based in the moment of, and I'm saying specifically about selfies just as an example. Selfies. Selfies. Selfies! Which by itself is a very narcissistic issue. And... You ever run into these people that are so good at selfie? Yeah, there's a woman I know, and I've run into, every time I see her I try to avoid her, because the first thing she does, she says, hello. You know who you are if you're, she's not listening to this, she's a Democrat. She would, like within one fell swoop,

1:52:10 She'll grab you and pull you to her and have a selfie of the two of you before you can blink. It's just like an automatic grab, shoot, and the shot is perfectly framed. Here is something I yes, I find it extremely distressing I don't like being in somebody else's selfie and I don't like to be grabbed and have a selfie made of me and Especially when it's off catches me off guard, but of course now it's happened. I can avoid it. I don't like selfies I avoid I don't like to be I'm not I'm a very unphotogenic person This is not true, but okay. I think you are very photogenic. It's the way I see it. Of course it's the way you see it. And if you were really narcissistic enough to be doing selfies, you would be filtering and cropping and take it. Really it's the retaking thing that bugs me. Oh, hold on. This is no good. Do it again. Take a picture. Check if you want. Is it good yet? No. Oh, please take it again. We'll smile again. Here's what I have noticed about myself. I'm, I'm not brought this up yet, but I have to now.

1:53:12 We have some friends in Austin, different friends, and we go out and we have a dinner or we go to the theater and at some point a picture of the four of us or the six of us or let's say the four of us will show up on social media. And everyone else that we know says, oh, like, like, like, so great. Oh, yes. Oh, well, you look fantastic. Boy, you're beautiful. OK, fine. I'm going to presume that everybody likes me. We look beautiful. We're fabulous. And then this couple and then three days later, I see our same friends.

1:53:49 with other friends of ours, and we're not in the picture, it's just them. And it's the same thing. And I'm not sure what it is, but it's like... Fabulous, fabulous. But I'm like, so what is this life that we're living? And should I feel bad that I was excluded? Or were they talking about us when they had that dinner the way we were talking about them when we had that dinner? This is a, it is an illness. It is it is it is sick, and I'm sure I agree with you. I think it is sick There's not much you can do about us all over the place. I avoid a lot of event because I've always avoided events but More so now than ever because I you know if you go to flickr And if you like to do research on people you can go to flickr or their or their Facebook page or wherever you want to go and you can find out if they're heavy drinkers you can find it if they like to go

1:54:44 You can find out all these different things or or or if they are just a very pathetic Wannabe burlesque dancer with huge tummy flab. Yeah. Yeah, that can happen. Whatever the case is, there is a lot of it's just I don't know. The scene is here's how I'm here's how I'm feeling. Many tribes, American Indian tribes, and indigenous people do not want their picture taken, they believe it is stealing your soul. And I, in some fashion, feel like my soul is being chipped away at when this takes place. I feel a little robbed, not just

1:55:33 That's the best feeling I can give you. I feel a little robbed of my soul with not just the picture being taken, but how it is used, it's tagged, it's out there, it's... Pictures are great. I mean, I love having a record of my life. There's nothing wrong with that. But this is so incessantly ill. I participate in it too. I'm not a selfie taker. I don't do this ever, but I'm in selfies of course. I take them for other people and I put up with them. We take a picture, but every single time I see the same people with other people and I'm like, just interchange the people. You know, what are we, just cutouts? Remember on the beach boardwalks you used to have this kind of a cutout, you'd have this muscle man and a bathing beauty with the two holes, you stick your head through there and then take a picture of that. Yeah, it's kind of what we're talking about.

1:56:23 On a kind of a ridiculous scale, but I don't know what photoshop my you want to put me in your selfie Photoshop my head in there and before you know that head on a stick we had We had the John I was in Detroit I had your head on a stick very good And we took a bunch of pictures with your head on a stick I'm all it was fine. You seem to be almost like you were there. I'm all for that. Yeah, that's fine do that Anyway, it is an international health crisis. And yes, the fact that we use words like viral proves that there is something going on like this. And I'm sure we can find other words and phrases that fit in. Let's ask our producers to get us some more words. Let's put the producers to work. Producers,

1:57:12 If we think about this as a health issue, this social media, give us some of the indicators that are out there that we can't come up with at the top of our head. These indicators such as the term virus, viral, and all the rest of it. And there's other ones, and I'm sure that there's somebody out there now screaming at the speakers saying, yeah, so and so, so, so, you can't get, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So we wanna hear that. That'll be a good thing to do. All right, what's your other pet peeve? No, I just wanted to read two notes and then I think we should thank some people. Brandon Scott says, and he's a longtime producer of the show, it's been a few months since I've heard a No Agenda show. Unfortunately on my way to work I hit a 250 pound doe, wrecked my bike and my body, and wound up waiting 45 minutes for a Mercy flight helicopter to take me to hospital where I was in coma for 11 days.

1:58:08 I'm home now and I went to hospital and he's in coma where is in England actually I think I read it that way oh I had to wait 45 minutes for Mercy Flight helicopter to take me to the hospital I had an 11-day coma. I think he was in an 11-day coma. I'm home now and I have blown my right ear, broke the bone in my head behind my ear along with my shoulder, but my helmet saved my head pretty well. I'm alright besides my head injury, but every day I feel better." He says he feels bad he missed the show, but of course we want to give him some healing karma, Brandon. We're glad you're okay.

1:58:47 When you hit one of these deer with your car, you get killed because a damn thing doesn't get killed, it comes through the windshield and kicks you to death. Very common thing in Washington State. So in this case, he hit it with his motorcycle. Ouch. Right. And that took him out. And then Aaron, who's a monthly donor producer as well, I've recently gotten My PBS loving mother-in-law into the show and I was trying to play her the clip you guys played ages ago where the head of PBS or possibly the corporate corporation for public broadcasting was talking about donor levels being down. It was the NPR lady. Correct. Love, love, love the new search features in the show notes, but I can't find this clip to play for her. Please help when you have a moment. And I thought I would play that. This is, um, um,

1:59:36 who now is no longer there, the head of NPR, and she's asked about the finances of the National Public Radio, which is a similar system to PBS, where they have not advertising or do they? And it's time to play this clip. Okay, moving on to money. How are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession? And what about foundation grants? Two different stories. Underwriting is down. It's down for everybody. I mean, this is the area that is most down for us, is in sponsorship, underwriting, advertising, call it whatever you want. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. On No Agenda!

2:00:31 It's just advertising people. It's just advertising. So we have a few people to thank, including Gentry Nalin in Damascus, Oregon. 133 33 and it's the year 21 33 and I'm riding around a steampunk police car and out of nowhere I see double rainbows. So then he decided to apparently donate anonymous Colorado Springs $100. uh... enjoys show recent said ninety seven percent analysis motivated to donate we're gonna do an article on that eventually paul webb seventy seven seventy seven second seven cent wiccan and yahoo we are a little six u k we got down the birthday list we do add ad hester mans and shot uh... it's it's uh... on john all taste reminds not taste of what she was brian williams somehow

2:01:27 Oh, right. Brian Willems sends a check in like every month with 7373. He's in Streamwood, Illinois. Odd Haystermons in Chom. He's a blight. He says 121212 black silent night without a ring. What? Yeah, well... Did you send? Did you put it to the farmer? Many, many times. Well, that's probably being stolen. I think it's being stolen too. Eric is good about this and we've been back and forth and I think it keeps getting stolen.

2:02:03 So, come up with a different address. 6969. Sorry, I'll work on it. Christina Caldwell in Queensland, Australia. She's got another birthday coming up. In Brisbane, 6789. And then, Sir D.H. Slammer, there's a note I have to read, but I want you to guess something. Where do you think the note is? It's downstairs. No. It's across the room. It's in the red book. It's at the other computer. It's in Washington. Nope. It's... I've already got it. It's across the room. Across the room. Yes, across the room. Hey, you know Brooke Baldwin on CNN? Brooke Baldwin? Yeah, she's kinda... she's kinda cute. How do you get from Sir DH Slammer to Brooke Baldwin? So in other words, when I asked you to do the question, you started surfing the net? No, I had the TV on. Oh. I had a big close-up of her.

2:02:54 Oh, well hold on a second, let's take time out. Brooke Baldwin? Is she one of the Baldwin brothers? Yeah, she is Alex's younger brother. And it was this one particular shot and I never really noticed it before. She's an airhead. Oh there she is. Oh, she's not a blonde. No. She's kind of an Erin Burnett clone. Burnett has not really bounced back yet from everything. From what's everything? The child. Oh, is that what it is? I wonder why she's only on her show once a week. Yeah, which I think was rough. It's been rough for her. That could be, but she's still, she looks great now though, I have to say. She's... Burnett? You think Burnett looks great? Oh, no, not Burnett. I'm sorry. I'm thinking of... No, she looks like Trish Reagan.

2:03:43 Anyway, it looks great. Anyway, that's enough of this. Sorry. Let's go to the note from... It was filler. You were getting the note and I was filling. Yes, you were. And you did good work, by the way. Thank you. It was ass filling and bear cream or whatever it was. Buzz, pot, and crot kills. My daughter, Samona, not Samoa or Sonoma. Did I mess it up? Yes, sorry, it's feeling left out of the no agenda family. We already did this he sent a note and we read this Yes, this is different another note. I'm sorry came in again. I'm sorry since dad's a knight mom is on her way to the Dame hood and brother Andrew I think what happened you get the Freddie the firewall cut I think what happened is that this note was written before you did all that we did all that we gave her a bunch of advice yes, we do exactly I

2:04:31 Okay, and I wanted to point out based upon the advice. I said do not daughter do not get on any or in any vehicle with Two wheels or less and then you made a crack joke about the Segway And I wanted to point out the guy who invented the Segway died on the Segway He ran off the cliff in the stupid Segway Yes, he was there. I think it was the CEO. He wasn't the inventor the inventor was Dean Kamen who's the CEO the CEO the CEO and Dangerous four wheels. That's it. Yeah, and I have another note here for somebody, but I'll just it's to be read I guess separately some other time

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2:09:19 Oh, Sir Mark, well, Baron of Tokyo. I find it amazing that a search for Snowden broken glasses only brings up no agenda. Is every reporter moreover, every photographer and art director blind and or asleep? Yeah, this is pretty incredible. I discussed this with Tom Merritt yesterday, I have to say. There was a little bit of cheating on you, but he brought it up. This is the Wired article, completely objective, of course, as they sent Bamford over to interview him, which means that it's kind of a one-sided... It's an interview and I don't really know why this continues to happen, but if you look at the

2:10:04 At the big cover photo, in fact I have a little clip of how it came to be. This is the man US officials have called a traitor and a coward, wrapping himself in the American flag, that even as he extends his stay in Putin's Russia. Out from the shadows. My name is Ed Snowden. I used to work for the government and now I work for the public. In front of the flashbulbs. Appearing at times exhausted. At times defiant. Geez! Wearing a bouncers t-shirt. Did you feel like he took a different tact in making this a little bit more about himself and your piece than he has previously? He came in actually quite nervous to the shoot and he said I love my country, I feel like a patriot. And it was at that moment that we knew that we had the cover. Yes. So let's discuss this for a moment because apparently you need to have sound effects of cameras to make it all kind of, to accentuate what you're trying to say.

2:11:01 So the picture of Ed Snowden on the cover is again with the Burberry glasses. They are in fact addressed in the article with a missing nose pad. With the missing nose pad, no one says anything about this in addition that Snowden is seen out in Moscow not wearing glasses. This can only mean, and if you read the white article they even say his trademark Burberry glasses. We are now looking at Brand Snowden. And this brings everything he says now, everything that is coming from him into huge question. He is now becoming and turning himself and allowing himself to be turned into an icon.

2:11:51 And this is, I have an issue with this. This is not okay. This- Branding baby, branding! Yeah. Why is it not okay? I mean, the guy's got to make a dollar. He's got to have those crappy glasses on with the broken thing. I don't understand why he doesn't get these glasses fixed. Did they stop making that model? He can't find anything that looks like those glasses. Those glasses are what he looks best in in a selfie. I mean, he's had those glasses since we know, since he began this episode. It may have been even gone to Hawaii. Yes, well since the Hong Kong interview that Laura Poitras did, that's where we first noticed it and it has come back continuously. I'll give you the one that noticed it.

2:12:31 Well, because I'm a glasses wearer and I have and I from time to time I will lose a nose pad and you go to the you can go into in America certainly you can go into any opticians office they will fix it for free and say when you when you want new pair of glasses I hope you come back. I don't think you maybe get charged for that ever and Moscow is not the backwater of of the world. You know, you have Gucci and you have really big names there. You know, all the names, all the fashion, everything is there. This should not be an issue. But now I'm very, very suspicious. He's clearly only wearing these glasses when he is in character and it's a giveaway. Yeah, it might be a giveaway. He is in character when he is doing this and

2:13:21 You know you bring up a good point. You know he has to make a buck. What is he living off of who is paying for him? How is he getting that money? How I had to transfer some money? I didn't know they were Burberry Burberry Burberry whatever I never the case is that that's a plug That's got to be worth a couple grand well Burberry should be incensed and outraged that they are broken and Yeah, you're right. But how is he making money? And I'm going to, I'm asking this specifically, we know the issues between the United States and Russia or anywhere and you're anywhere in Europe, anywhere money might be coming from. I had to send some money to the Netherlands for my birthday party, which I am not in charge of. And Mickey said, okay, you need to transfer some money, half for the party.

2:14:08 And it's not a huge amount, but I don't have... I have to send it. Can I send PayPal? No, they don't have PayPal, of course. So I do a bank transfer. Oh my god. That goes 50 bucks? 40. Oh my god. Real, thank you. an outrageous amount and they locked my... I got phone calls, texts are going off, the app is exploding for the bank. I get a phone call, this is the fraud protection press option three. Citizen, citizen, you are funding terrorism. And so I finally, you know, I call and they say, you know, what's going on? Well, and I have to prove who I am. I got to input my pin number on the phone and crazy security, double whatever. And then who is the, do you know the party who this money is going to? And what is it for? It's for my, it says it right there. Adam Curry birthday party half. And it took another half hour to approve this money because- Who was this? What bank? That's irrelevant.

2:15:19 It doesn't matter. A mechanics bank can't even do this. They can't even send a wire. Believe me, I've tried with them. Their brain starts to fry if you ask for that. Incoming transfer is even worse. But it doesn't matter. This is the same with any bank when you try to transfer money overseas. So how is Ed Snowden getting his money? And it's not any different with PayPal. That gets rejected and sent back. It's And he, the guy needs money and he's real money. He's booking hotel rooms for his interviews. Someone is running stuff for him, for Bran Snowden. And I'm, now I'm just very tired of this.

2:15:58 And it's no longer, it's not cute anymore. Wired with sending him... I think if we call up any one of his attorneys and everybody's his attorney, I might point out, Radek is his attorney, Ben Wisner is his attorney, everybody's his attorney. Where's his dad with his attorney? Where's his girlfriend? Come on people! You're being hoodwinked. I'm not sure exactly how, but you're being hoodwinked. And why? Well, I think one part of this is to turn back the outsourcing of our intelligence community, which is happening. I'm seeing that for sure. A lot of outsourcing being closed down. It all has to be in-house, which is growth of government, quite honestly. So that's part of it.

2:16:48 But no one brings...look, I'm all for whistleblowers. I'm all for information. I don't even know if I agree to the idea of putting the whole slew of documents out there. I think it's kind of innocuous and somewhat harmless what has been done. We know that The Guardian and Intercept and everybody checks all their stories with the administration, with the Department of Justice, Department of Defense. Whether they say something or not, they always check it. New York Times says that they've all admitted this. If it truly was a huge problem, then it would be stopped or something would take place. These are no heroes. They're just writing up the story.

2:17:28 So it's okay, you know, and then we found out a little bit of stuff. Nothing really all that crazy and revealing, I don't feel. Nothing that we didn't know or couldn't suppose. And what did we get? A bunch of PowerPoint slides. I didn't see any code. You see any code? Any compiled code? Any source code of any of these systems and cracks they have? No. PowerPoint slides, of which multiple slides are missing from each deck. But okay. So there's information coming out. But then what? Now Edward Snowden, Bran Snowden, who clearly only wears his glasses when he is the Ed Snowden, is some kind of hero, like Abbie Hoffman with a flag? Sorry for the obscure reference, people. Not that obscure for a lot of people. We're old. What am I supposed to think of this? I'm not buying it anymore. What do you think you're supposed to think?

2:18:28 You're supposed to be all in. He's a... there's a genuine whistleblower patriot or a scumbag, depending on what side of the political spectrum. Maybe it's just a sort of the different people. You know, at some point you think Snowden's a... the question comes up by the media. Do you think Snowden's a patriot or a traitor? From day one, that was the meme on all the talk shows. Right, so it was, if anything, it was content. Yeah, so Edward Snowden his content. I still believe that he was working on a mission on behalf of the CIA It's certainly initially when I believe this to yes and working I get furring to his still has his card Oh, yeah, then he said mission accomplished and and talked about his mission and he said so he is and we know that there's a battle between the CIA and the NSA for money and

2:19:24 So it's a money grab. A money grab and... And there's going back and forth. I think the outsourcing thing is also a part of it. That seems to be... I think the outsourcing, yeah, I think that's a big part of it. Yeah, that seems to be a part of it. Yeah, because this is an example of where outsourcing fails. So you bring this up in court, you know, in front of Congress, say we need more money because outsourcing failed. We thought it was a good idea at the time, but this is a good example of what happened. And we got that a-hole Alexander out. He was annoying little weenie boy who was running the NSA. We didn't like him anyway. Right. So that's a plus. Him in a Star Trek. Yeah, his bridge is his captain. Yeah a lot of that, but don't you find it also? Unsettling at the very least this these interviews and the concept if you look if you have a conference Just set up a Google Hangout. It's never Skype by the way. It's a Google Hangout. Okay fine set up a Google Hangout and You can get Ed Snowden calling in

2:20:23 If you're Putin, you can have him calling. He's on every show. I'm surprised he's not on Al Sharpton's show. Hey, Rev! He's at every conference. And then he's even better if you get Ellsberg or someone else, some other whistleblower to talk to him. And somehow that's... it's content. It is. You know what it is? It's just content at this point. Edward Snowden, content. That's what he is. He's just a content man. Bran Snowden, content. What really Was the value of this Wired article other than it got great coverage because of the cover photo? And I'm sure it sold. Is there any other value? There was some revelation in there about how we took down the Syrian internet. Whatever. SonicNet went out last week. You know, no news coverage on that. Come on. Come on. Yeah, no, I agree with all this. I agree with you 100% on this.

2:21:30 I was asked specifically not to talk about this and I'm not going to talk about it but I'm going to play a clip because it reflects how I think. Especially the suicide. I think there's something in these medicines that people are taking for depression that's making them depressed and making them commit suicide. I swear. I don't think it's depression. I think it's chemical. I think there's some kind of anti-depressant drug that they're taking that's causing them to have visions and making them kill themselves. There's drugs out there that if you take it and if you have certain descent, it will make you

2:22:05 Little crazy like certain allergy medicines. I'm today, and I just feel like it's it's it's chemical and it's not I don't think it's just him going hey I'm gonna slip my wrist and jump off and choke myself. I mean, I just think that there's something else happening That's in there. Yeah, I mean he was such a joyful dude, man. I just can't uh My heart broke Marlon Wayans Who said well? That's all. As you know, we don't have to... I was asked specifically not to talk about it. Yeah, well, most of the information is now public domain. We did get a letter from a pharmacist who said, and this is kind of known too, is that people, they put these people on antidepressants, and it's not as though they're always having thoughts of suicide anyway. It's just that some of the antidepressants give you the guts to actually commit suicide when you normally wouldn't.

2:23:02 And that's...this is what needs to be looked into. And we've been tracking this a lot of times, certainly... Since day one of this show. In the United States, certainly. When you have a teen suicide, and we've had a lot of these, gay teenager gets cyberbullied, commits suicide. The lawyers who show up, and we've tracked this, I can't remember which episode, we did a big deconstruction of it. The lawyers who show up are lawyers who are also involved in pharmaceutical affairs. And what you rarely hear, or if you hear it, it is not deconstructed or discussed, is that these children who were cyber bullied, and sometimes even because of just who they were, how they were feeling with their sexuality, are put on medication. And it is, although a very, I think it's an insignificant 2 to 4 percent

2:23:59 increase in children of suicides when they're on medication. I believe the percentage of suicides where medication was involved is extremely high, extremely high. And that is, of course, you're not going to have the traditional media talk about that. It is there, the bread and butter of a lot of their business. Right. They make too much money. They cannot, they cannot do that. But one of these days this is gonna end because they're gonna get these guys and they're gonna arrest them all it seems to me there Well, I mean, it's interesting that that story we had with a girl drop dead right after visiting the doctor the HPV shot and this sort of thing which I have to say people should appreciate the no agenda show because we're not anti-vaxxers by any means but we have a objective

2:24:58 Look at the at what's going on with the drug industry this drug industry is is horrible And they're just, you know, they're not doing anything about antibiotics, which is really what's needed. There's no, people should look this up, there's no phage research being done in this country. It's all being done in Russia and other places. But it's one of the very promising technologies for just dealing with bacteria. None of that's being done. It's all about these, you know, hard on pills, hair loss pills, antidepressants, never-ending blood pressure pills you have to take for the rest of your life. And now there's lawsuits going on about Lipitor and some of these other bigger lawsuits. But they've already made so many billions of dollars they can push these lawsuits off. They don't care. This is a horrible situation. Pfizer shuts down its complete, all its research on antibiotics because they're making too much money doing other stuff. They don't see the reason to do the other thing.

2:26:01 There's a problem with giving somebody antibiotic and it cures them you did where's yours? Where's your follow-up sale? Everything's got to be follow-up sales. You got to keep got to keep pumping back. So we got it. Yeah, what's your pipeline man? It's just you know, this is a mess And now we have this okay. Yes it is and and and obviously the United States certainly of Gitmo nation One of the few countries that allows pharmaceuticals to be advertised on television. Most countries don't allow that. No, I know that's actually been a plague. The advertising on television because the public is so stupid. Ask your doctor if XYZ is right for you. So these people go in and they ask their doctor and some of these doctors by the way have been corrupted. Oh, not some, all. All of them. They owe this huge money. Not my doctor. Huge money. Man, that's just mean. That's mean, man. Yeah, man.

2:26:53 So meanwhile we have this very creepy commentary. This guy, the head of the CDC is everywhere. Oh, this is the guy that... the Fauci guy? No, no, not Fauci. The other guy. Thompson, Thomas, whatever. That guy. Who I think is one of the guys... he's like an Ebola expert too. So this guy's on and he's on some, one of these Commonwealth Club, one of these meetings where he's sitting in a chair with a bunch of other people yakking about one thing or another. And I want to play this clip because he drops a little bomb at the end that is like...

2:27:29 I don't know why anybody doesn't just... this relates back to my commentary about Ebola being developed in the laboratory in Fort Detrick. And this is always, you know, it's bullshit, it's conspiracy stuff. Just listen to this. We can focus on stopping these outbreaks and that's something that we will certainly do. Or, we can focus not only on stopping these outbreaks, but also on putting in place the laboratories, the disease detectives, the emergency response systems that will find, stop, and prevent future outbreaks of Ebola and other threats.

2:28:05 We do face in this country a perfect storm of vulnerability with emerging infections like Ebola, resistant infections like the ones we discussed in our last hearing, intentionally created infections which remain a real threat. Intentionally created? What? That's what I said. What? Wait a minute, was there more to this? How can this be? He didn't say anything, he just kept talking. He just put that right in there, just dropped that bomb, I cut it off there. Because from then on it was just yak, yak, yak. And it had nothing to do with it. But that's what he said, play that little end again. Okay. Just in our last hearing, intentionally created infections which remain a real threat. And he didn't say intentionally created by

2:28:59 Al-Qaeda? That's it. No, that was, I'm telling you, I could put it in context, I could have a longer clip. Believe me, that was just in the middle of nowhere. Well, you know what that is. About time. Yeah, about time indeed. Finally. Wow. And let me guess, the moderator of the panel immediately said, hey, what intentional disease, intentionally created? No. No, nobody said anything. I am putting this into the evergreen bin. We need to have a copy of it at least. There you go. It's in the evergreen bin. No, that was just that. Wow. This is what we do. We catch this stuff for you. That's what the NOAA agenda show is good for. And we do other things. We report on news that is severely underreported, such as the visa issue in the United States. And I have an insider. Of course, we have everybody. We have people everywhere.

2:30:01 We have our people on the ground. We have boots on the ground everywhere. This is anonymous, obviously. In regard to the Consular Consolidated Database issue, I wanted to share some insights on the program itself since I work at the National Passport Center and have been affected by the outage. The system is used for more than just visa applications. And the biggest issue is that it is a system that integrates a number of programs into one portal. Oh yes. If one system is down, it affects the whole of CCD. And that is interesting because it sounds like... It actually adds an article about the FBI making use of one aspect of CCD through our law enforcement branch, diplomatic security. Like most government programs, this was designed to have a life cycle of 10 years and is now on year 14.

2:30:54 So, we are currently waiting for the new program to be finished once they get done playing games with contracts and bring the new people up to speed. The system is now functioning, but due to the huge backlog of applications on both passport and visa sections, it is currently being used as needed only. So, I'm hearing a couple of things. Now, let me just stop you there. Now, a software company, a real software company, let's say like Microsoft, when they release Windows 7, they're already long since started on Windows 8. So I would assume that the government creates systems that are going to be 10 years life cycle. They would have started on that new system at least five years earlier. And I'll bet they did. Well, this could be. Never mind. I have no reason to doubt that.

2:31:44 But it also sounds to me like there were other branches of government using the system and perhaps it was their issue, their portion of it, and they may have corrupted some data. We are not getting the full story and I don't believe this producer is a dude named Ben. It's just a user of the system. But there is again, and we saw the president just the other day with his His new IT specialist, whatever bull crap that is, dude named Ben in the White House. Did you see that? There was a big thing and he had IT specialists, he was improving and simplifying digital services. Obama takes step to improve government technology. Maybe he knows something's on the way, like another huge glitch.

2:32:41 This is, this is, this does not bode well at all. And of course, there's no reporting that now the system appears to be working, but that maybe some of the FBI systems were slowing it down. And due to the huge backlog, I'm not quite sure I understand the statement here, the backlog of applications on both the passport and visa section, it is currently being used as needed only. I'm not quite sure what that means. So I went to Canada. Monday was you were you forced was this a kidnap? Yes, I was forced to go to Canada. It would be a form of torture Just kidding Canadians. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know the weird thing you go to Canada first thing you have to do is you have to set your watch back three years, but that's another So I went to Canada I love the Victoria Canada is one of the prettiest places in the world and we went there to wander around and

2:33:37 And so I paid more careful attention to the passport control. And passport control seems to be all coming into the country, into the United States, passport control seems to be pretty much on the Canadian side. They have Canadians checking your passport when you're coming over and they're looking at the picture and he holds it up, you know, and looks at you and looks at the picture. There's no issue going out? Or is this going out? When you go over there... No, that was coming in. Going out, yeah, you're going out, you go through some sort of passport control.

2:34:13 All I can say is that the American side of the whole thing is pretty... I think if you wanted to sneak into the country and you had a passport that was real, I think you could do it through these touristy things that are all up and down the northern border. I don't think it'd be that difficult because they don't seem to be connected to anything. Well, but does that mean that ISIS or IS caliphators could come in with their radiological dirty bombs and kill us? I've been coming in that way. They could kill us? I'm not sure what you could get away with, but it just seems to me that it would be a It was different than I remember it. They used to be kind of more hard ass on the American side than they are now. And they used to be pretty hard ass on the Canadian side where they always ask you if you're bringing in guns. But we went, of course, as foot traffic. And I think the foot traffic gets a different kind of... But you walked across the border?

2:35:10 No, we got on a boat. We walked on a boat and the boat took us over there and then we got out of the boat and then wandered around and then I went to, I got some good photos. I'm gonna post some of these photos. They have like around certain parts of town, there's a big, like a thing on a telephone pole that's a box that says needle recycling or needle disposal unit for needles. Oh really? In the middle of town, yeah. It's like right there and you put it in there. For drug addicts or diabetes? Yes, yeah, I guess there's a lot of drug addicts in Victoria. And here's the weirdest thing I want to bring, this is what I actually want to bring up. Can I just,

2:35:51 Was it really not of this earth uncanny and on earth? No, it was. It was actually not of this earth. Okay. So here's the strangest thing that's going on and I hooked up an antenna to the television to pick up Canadian HDTV, which every time I leave Mimi unhooks it. I think she just listens to stuff off the Roku or anyway. I'm scanning the channels and there's an Indian channel, all Hindu. Coming in from Canada? Yeah. And it's just a whole channel. So I'm listening to the radio, there's a Hindu station, radio station, playing Indian music, Bollywood stuff, from Canada.

2:36:36 And then I go over there and there is new crap load of Indian restaurants that weren't there before. There's Indians, a huge contingent of... Now, I know the Canadians like to sell citizenships and they tend to be around a quarter of a million dollars. Really? Hold on, so stop right there. I can't just apply and go work there and pay taxes, I have to buy it? You could do it the old-fashioned way. How foolish of me. Yes, of course. But that would be just a loser. They used to have a $250,000 fee during, I remember in the 90s when the Chinese were freaking out, the Hong Kong Chinese before they switched over in 97, they were freaking out and they were buying up Canadian citizenships left and right to the point where Vancouver in particular is filled with dynamite modern Chinese restaurants. I mean, just great places. And now a lot of them have gone back, but the restaurants remain.

2:37:38 I something happened because now and I would like to if anybody knows anything about this We've got Canadian listeners and we've got Indian listeners a couple what is going on with this Indian exodus to Canada? I'd never heard about I've never read about there's very little written about it, but it's obviously taking place so he wouldn't have a Indian TV station and the Indian radio stations, I believe there's more than one and And a lot of Indian news in the regular news coverage, and there's Indian Indians. Indians have showed up. They've moved to Canada. Maybe they just want to get out. You know, maybe it's... Well, I think it's smart money. We got the new guy Modi's taking over there. Maybe people are seeing... And they don't like Modi. ...writing on the wall, perhaps. All I know is that this is something we have to follow and keep tabs on. Good. We'll do that. A couple other things we want to keep our eye on. We have

2:38:30 from the F Russia department, Pussy Riot will be in the new season of House of Cards, activists that they are. What do they got to... what does House of Cards have to do with them? It'll be something political and it'll be the House of Cards new season will probably propagate the... The anti-Russia, anti-Putin. Yeah, Putin is a complete a-hole. And the great thing is you don't even need to have the actual members. You just put two chicks and with a hood with a... One of those baklava things. What do you call them? Ski mask. Ski mask. You're good to go. Baklava. Whatever you call it. Tastes like honey. Prime Minister Erdogan re-elected in Turkey.

2:39:22 So nothing happened there. Shocker. Yeah, nothing happened there. Something that is brand new, of course, is the new puppet in the Iraqi government. Oh yeah, right. We need to talk about that guy. He is Haider al-Abadi. And although not the guy who we heard about, but he is definitely an interesting fellow. He was born in Baghdad in 1952 and of course like any other good Baghdadi received his doctorate from the University of Manchester in Britain. This is where you go. He was key advisor to Maliki in Iraq's first post-invasion elected government. The issue of course is that Maliki is not

2:40:10 having this, he's not stepping down, even though the president called Haider al-Abadi and said, hey, congratulations on the job you have, but you don't really have it. And it seems like there is a standoff with the with Maliki, who has armed troops who are loyal to him. Yeah, I think he should get to Switzerland as fast as he can, but apparently he doesn't think so. Yeah, well, would you say that perhaps he is a patriot to his country of Iraq and does not want the obvious shills to come in? He is one of the obvious shills, but not one of our shills. Exactly. Whose shill is he then?

2:40:51 He's a shill for Iran, I think. He's definitely...he's a Shia, so he's got to be, you know, shilling for that contingent. The Iran thing is very interesting, and this brings us to... George Clooney. George Clooney. George Clooney is a spy. George Clooney, who, as we know, has a hand-picked fiancée. She is fantastic. She is an attorney. She was asked by the United Nations Human Rights Council to sit on a three-person panel. A pretty big job that she was asked to be a part of. And she is... where is she from? I want to say she is... Wasn't she Persian or something? Yes, I believe so. So she's turned this down, but she remains very critical of Israel in the Gaza

2:41:50 Israel-Gaza fracas and Clooney is something's very strange with George now we have word that He may possibly run for governor of California, which would be make total sense. Yeah, he doesn't have the chops for it He has a stand-alone guy. He needs a handler with him I mean she's not gonna be able to be his handler at the podium. I mean maybe I But it's gonna look kind of sketchy, but he he can remember his lines. It doesn't need to do much else I mean he can engage in dialogue or hurt him even give a speech. Yeah, you're right He could be scripted if you script him if you script him. I think he's okay. I don't know but okay well he was caught off guard by voice of America at a It looked like a red carpet event

2:42:42 And he started off and I think I had left... maybe I cut it out of the clip, but he was doing like the Iranian hand snap. Have you seen this? It's like... it happened just before the show so I didn't have time to Google it. Apparently there is a finger snap thing that Iranians do and he was able to do that, but we'll have to look that up. I will look it up. You looked that up while I played this clip and he was asked about filmmakers, Iranian filmmakers, apparently the best movies are being made in Iran now. According to George and he has a little kicker here where he I think he let the truth slip out accidentally and we have to question who he's spying for Yeah, there is that's so you have three big ones this year two three coming up it looks really good and also we might even have a little Nuclear negotiation coming through did you see that today? It's interesting. I hope so Yeah, I mean listen there are

2:43:41 There are three or four countries right now that are doing some of the most interesting filmmaking and Iran is one of them. Mexico obviously because there's an interesting Mexican filmmaker. But Iran has a huge cache of really talented filmmakers doing really good films. And then they ask a question. Well, they're very brave for making a film. They're very brave for doing the kind of things they want to do. Your hope is that as Iran becomes more and more integrated into the United States, into the world sort of conversations, you'd hope that banning them would seem okay. He says as Iran becomes more integrated into the United States, I mean into the world. Yeah, he's working for the CIA. I don't see how it could be anything else.

2:44:27 I mean, with his background, the kind of handlers he had where he's always showing up, all the rest of it, it's gotta be. I mean, it's not... Who else would it be? Defense? Maybe... No, he was not gonna be in the Defense Department. No, no. No, he is... If we know anything about the agency, they like manly men. Uh, philandering chicks, no problem. Drinking, no problem. Drugs, out of the question. Because that's, you know, that's the business. We don't, we don't do drugs. And I think Clooney is, is, he's, he's that guy, you know, he's, he's, he's perfect. He's got the chicks. He knows how to drink. Uh, he looks good. He's good. He can read a script. What more do you want? I think, um, I think it's a dynamite.

2:45:11 But yes, and what was this finger snap thing? Did you look it up while we were? Yeah, yeah, there's a number of people can look it up under Iranian finger snap and is actually suggested and there's a there's a couple of videos and this girl shows you how to do it You hold your hand in some funny awkward way and it's like the way we do our thumb snap thing You know, it's called the Persian snap. I see here only they do it some other way I mean try I'll have to look this over because it's it makes a loud noise Beshkan and this Iranian girl is happy as, you know, she thinks it's great. So I don't know. So he knows how to do that. Okay. Well, we can all, we'll all know how to do it by next show. Kids everywhere will be doing it. It's the new rage. Why not? It's the new power Rangers or something like that. iPhone, my phone, the way I see it, the only good phones, the landline and the phone should be made out of Bakelite. That's right, everybody. Time for tech news.

2:46:13 John, do we have tech news? There's no tech news today. Why not? There's no new phones. Onward. Let me see. You had the tech grouch there. Someone made that for us. It's a little tech grouch clips. You got something there. A lot of a lot of builders, Schiedt builders is making a lot of noise in the Netherlands because of the ISIS demonstrations. There apparently were a group of people who were supporting IS and demonstrating in the Netherlands and Wilders says, hey, we should send the army to go knock their heads around.

2:45:11 But yes, and what was this finger snap thing? Did you look it up while we were? Yeah, yeah, there's a number of people can look it up under Iranian finger snap and is actually suggested and there's a there's a couple of videos and this girl shows you how to do it You hold your hand in some funny awkward way and it's like the way we do our thumb snap thing You know, it's called the Persian snap. I see here only they do it some other way I mean try I'll have to look this over because it's it makes a loud noise Beshkan and this Iranian girl is happy as, you know, she thinks it's great. So I don't know. So he knows how to do that. Okay. Well, we can all, we'll all know how to do it by next show. Kids everywhere will be doing it. It's the new rage. Why not? It's the new power Rangers or something like that. iPhone, my phone, the way I see it, the only good phones, the landline and the phone should be made out of Bakelite. That's right, everybody. Time for tech news.

2:46:13 John, do we have tech news? There's no tech news today. Why not? There's no new phones. Onward. Let me see. You had the tech grouch there. Someone made that for us. It's a little tech grouch clips. You got something there. A lot of a lot of builders, Schiedt builders is making a lot of noise in the Netherlands because of the ISIS demonstrations. There apparently were a group of people who were supporting IS and demonstrating in the Netherlands and Wilders says, hey, we should send the army to go knock their heads around.

2:46:59 This is of course an issue, but it all seems to be part of the plan. Get Europe all riled up, get everybody fighting each other, everybody hating each other, all about religion. There we go again. And Euroland, this deflationary thing that you kind of deconstructed a bit on the last episode, seems to be spreading. And Germany, and now there's, I don't know if you, did you guys do a DHM plug? I didn't see one. No, no, we didn't do one this week. We skipped a week. Yeah, see, I missed it. Yeah, we missed the skipping. Okay, what do I have here? Italy contracting after GDP shrunk by 0.2%, but the big worry is about Germany. Had you heard any of this?

2:47:46 that Germany seems to that maybe there's some bad news coming or and and and that the European Central Bank obviously is is trying to fight deflation by with negative interest rates and all this and with unlimited quantitative easing. We'll be discussing it on the next DHM Plugged on Tuesday. Okay. Which means you don't know? Did I say that? No, well, I mean, why are you... Yeah, I don't know. Okay. You're withholding from... I'm saying I don't know. I don't know. But we will look into it and I got a mouse in my pocket. We're both going to look into it and we'll see what happens. Very good. Doesn't sound good. No. It won't be good for us. It sounds problematic. Well, I think the Euro-original 2017 war in Europe, possible.

2:48:35 No, the war should be... it's gonna be... okay, we'll go over those numbers later. I do have a clip I want to play. Get it out of the way. Okay. The only reason I want to get this out of the way, because there's two things about this clip. This clip was sent to us by one of our producers and it turned out to be on Finnish radio. And this is the guy who took Dennis Rodman to North Korea twice. And his name's Terwilliger, Joseph Terwilliger. He's a young sounding guy, I think he's pretty young. And this is on Finnish radio, so there's a lot of Finnish in here, although I clipped most of it out, so we just have Terwilliger speaking in English, because most of the Finns can speak English.

2:49:14 And as I listen to this clip, which has a couple of good little tidbits about North Korea, my thinking is why we have all this, the mainstream media has a certain opinion of North Korea and Kim Jong-un and the rest of it. Why doesn't somebody on one of these networks go to the trouble of asking this guy to come on so he could tell some stories? It's just beyond me that I have to get this clip from Finland. Okay, Joseph, the main reason you're here, you've met Kim Jong-un in North Korea, the North Korean leader. First of all, I want to ask, from our point of view, he seems like an evil bond villain or something like that. He's trying to take over the world or something like that. How do you feel?

2:50:02 I mean, he was very friendly and warm with us. I don't think anybody really thinks that the DPRK wants to take over the world. I mean, they just want to survive, right? So, I mean, all of the issue with nuclear weapons and all of that is basically to prevent other countries from trying to end the regime. So I don't think they have aggressive policy against the rest of the world. He's very friendly. He was very warm with us. What do you think about those rumors that tells us that Kim Jong-un has executed his uncle? Well, let me put it this way. They had rumors that he'd executed this other woman who they alleged was his ex-girlfriend and we met her

2:50:50 on both trips. Every time we were there, we met with her. So that was only a rumor. That was complete rumor. It came from some... apparently it was sourced to something like the Chinese version of The Onion. And the media just ran with it because people are willing to believe anything you tell them that happened in North Korea without evidence because it's really hard to get evidence. Perfect. I'm not saying, you know, anything other than that, that just that that is completely untrue. As to the uncle, I mean, he would probably have been the first person that South Korea would have executed when they took over if they had taken over North Korea. He wasn't like an old guy in a rocking chair with a pipe. He was the guy running Gulag system.

2:51:35 Now the one thing that got me the takeaway for and this is goes on and on then we can post the whole thing I like that as guy want to hear it. That's good Yeah, it post the whole thing and you might get another tidbit out of there But the thing that my takeaway from this was that our media I'm talking about CNN MSNBC CBS NBC all of them talked about this woman that got killed his ex-girlfriend because the guy's such a brute and And it came from the Chinese equivalent of the onion? Yeah. And they just took that story and ran with it because the reporters over there don't know what the onion is or they believe everything they read? This is pathetic. Yeah.

2:52:18 And once that's out there, no one's going to say, oh crap man, it was the onion. Oh, let's just drop the story. Let's not cop to that. I'm surprised. Didn't they have the, did they, did he, I want to know, did he feed his uncle to dogs? That was the other great story. I was hoping we'd hear about that. Yeah, well, it's, it's the whole, it's, Are we I think this is a good show because we went full circle We did didn't we started with the idiots and these networks and now we're back to the idiots in the network believing and running with the onion story But Brooke Baldwin does look pretty good for the youngest Baldwin brother I have to say I like the cheek implants. There's something about him that just works for me All right. Thank you very much

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