Touching the Stick

00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Thursday June 12th 2014 it's time for your Get Monation Media Assassination this is episode 625 This Is No Agenda Counting down the days to six weeks and coming to you from FEMA Region Six here in the Travis Heights hideout in the capital of The Drone Star State In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where its always nice I am John C. Dvorak Yeah, it's always nice. No it's not! You get gloomy days and crappy stuff Can I ask you a question? I wish you would And this is... It's just... I don't want to come across as... I'm not trying to embarrass you, I'm just trying to understand something Do you type blindly on the keyboard? I'm sure you do right? You know, I'm looking at the list of clips and I knew that was the question

00:58 So the question stands do you type blindly how does this work because Clearly as we know the C stands for caps lock and it was locked So your typing shift and all of your clips start with a lowercase, and the rest is all uppercase. It's a little weird Yeah yeah I noticed this after the fact that wasn't about to go back and fix it Because they're just names of clips. I know what they are, i'm just trying to understand your process you know so I record... You can see where it happened here it's under the... No! I know where it happened but... Somewhere caps lock and from there on all the clips But your process is different from mine so apparently you have

01:39 You record all these clips and they have different names, and you go back and change all the names one after another. That's not how it works at all! Oh... How does your process work? Okay so I use a H2N and i have this little recorder and I hook it to the DISH network audio out and then I save clips on the DVR put them into the recorder so you just move them from here to there. And then when something on the computer that I want to pull down from the interwebs, I hook this up to the sound system and I just pull it down. So I end with a bunch of clips... All on Zoom? Yeah they all say zoom one

02:23 one, two, three. And most of these clips some of them are combos I mean there may be two or three clips within one of the recordings and then in the morning because I have to do these in the morning hour and the reason is that I've done it at night before but then I have to be extremely careful about what I name the clips because you can't use so many clips you can't... What was this one? For example here's a couple here if I had not just recorded Canter wiped out. I mean, we might forget what that's about right? And so then I make the clips in the morning and then I title them something that would just be some simple that you can find when i'm talking about it and at the same time something I can remember what was So again, when your titling

03:14 How does that work? How can it be that you don't see that your caps is locked, I don't understand how. Or you see it...I mean, strange. Well in this case, I was typing away and when you do it, you just got your clip and then you export it and then give it a name and hit return key And its out of there and I was just doing these things one after another Before I actually looked down and saw what i was typing. There's so many typos in there too! Yeah, no your process is so much... but first of all that's a lot of work people don't realize and that's not true from time to time someone will say hey you know I clipped this for you holy crap it took me half a day to do one clip how do you guys do it?

03:56 Because my process is different. Of course I have a dedicated studio and everything's kind of set up all the time, and i also use the DVR so if I see something I'll rewind yeah I'll rewind and then I use what is it Audio Hijack Pro so I title it as I'm recording so I don't have that intermediary step And I recorded direct to MP3 onto... Oh, see the difference between you and me in that regard because if i did that it would just be That would actually add an additional step Because many times like say I had a clip from Democracy Now! That has Amy going on about two or three things. Right. I can't title that clip because its really not a finished clip.

04:42 I'm not doing finished clips at the beginning. I mean, I'm taking pieces of things and then I am listening to them more carefully and then clipping out... Then I'm editing. I'm doing more post-editing. So after so I just record but maybe five minutes and then so I have it already titled on my drive and then all edit If there's three clips in it, I'll edit it out and on you know titled one two or three It's interesting that you know six more than six years And I have no idea how you do your stuff on your end is the first time we've actually talked about it Yeah well You know everybody did that That's the thing about I noticed this some years back when I was I had my big telecom book out in the 80s and I got and they go

05:26 Tell us about which bitch big telecom book I had this big giant telecom book to work on Telecommunications like a thousand pages, and it was a big deal at McGraw Hill And they had put me on on it. Yeah, I gotta interrupt you. I think you're on Comcast I don't think you're on Sonic net I can tell the difference How crazy is that? How crazy is it that I can tell what network you're connected to? No, i'm actually on Sonic. Oh really hmm It says Hmm Is it breaking up yeah, it's giving its doing real comcast-y like stuff. It's okay Maybe it'll shake out so i'm sorry back to the telecom book So they put me on a radio tour A media tour radio and television around the country did you have a uh because of course this is back in The day did you have a limo

06:17 I was always offered a limo and i always refused. And did you have a PR girl? I don't like limos, I don't understand why people use them. I think town cars are great! I hate limos they're uncomfortable. I don't want somebody driving me around... You wanna drive yourself?! Did you have...? Because if I go to...I see stuff that I want to take a photo of or something and you can't sit with the driver he thinks your'e an idiot. Did you have a PR girl who traveled with you? No I had a PR girl that was coordinating everything but she wasn't traveling with me which is another thing I don't really like. Well, I've had it both ways and I have to say I kind of like it when you've got someone who's like can I get you something to drink? Yeah no see I'm not for any that. All that elitist crap as well. But yeah but I also had the someone to coif my hair and yeah okay well that was different but most this was radio anyway and what I noticed was actually one of my only takeaway from the whole experience

07:13 besides the fact that this is a huge waste of time and money. Although it probably does sell a few books, but it's still a waste of time. Not really... I don't believe- I think one or two books are sold. Yeah! One or two. I noticed the one thing that I took away was that every single radio station I visited was so alien to every other radio station in the way they were set up, and the way they operated. In the way their control rooms were and in the way guys worked. Some guy's you know there are guy working standing-up Tom Likas and you work standing up? I work standing up yeah. Some guys are on your own booth You know these guys only want to be near ya

07:50 There's a whole series and all the controls are all it's amazing. The difference from place to place is so outrageous that it's like there's no standardization whatsoever And I think that's the way in this in the whole audio game Which is why? I do what the way, I do it isn't alien probably to the way everyone else doesn't you the same thing with your gear which Is all customized well but top 40 top 40 stations are always the same They're always kind of like stand up. You know kind of the same setup aren't they no hmm? I worked a cow worked at a couple these places on and off and I mean there's a similarity that you could say is from place to place, but like the big giant stations in the Bay Area. I've worked at KGO and KSFO and they're just alien to each other everything is different

08:45 Sometimes it's not that different, but I mean it's always different though. It's not like a...it's not like the French nuclear power plants Do you remember the old top 40 stations where they had the board with the big? So they didn't have faders But they had the big knobs and then- The big pots Yeah And pre-fader listening You turn the knob all the way to left and go click and then on the left speaker you could Pre listen to whatever record you were queuing up Yeah, they had a little indent that you could pop it to that. We had one of those when I went to Foothill Junior College and our radio station had those and Leo has a Gates at the Twit Studios... Oh yeah, those are nice! ...that has been rebuilt and is in mint condition and that's the exact model you're talking about. Love it

09:32 You know what's so funny is if I say, you know someone has mentioned something about the sound and actually it sounds the same to me as normal. I get emails yeah no I noticed it's different! People don't understand that you can't just...that's not a qualifying statement It doesn't work like that anyway. It's about the content people. You just broke up. That was kind of funny Okay, how did we get on this? I don't remember why we you were asking me. How I guess why so why can't type And somehow we got to your thousand page book and you doing book tours. I'm not sure exactly what happened there It was a roundabout way Explaining why I can't type so what do you got oh

10:19 Well, I got a lot. Now i'm really annoyed... Hey! By the way, did you know that this is astonishing? I don't know why this isn't front page news but Bergdahl Bo Diddley Was it Bob's dad there? Bo Bergdahl Apparently when he was over in Afghanistan had his head cut off and guess they somehow managed to put it back on. And that's why I think he is probably resting and recuperating in Germany. New details have emerged of freed U.S. soldier Beau Bergdahl's time in Taliban captivity. Bergdahl has told military doctors he was beaten, tortured and locked in a metal cage for weeks—and possibly months at a time—as punishment for trying to escape

11:07 He is reportedly now in good enough physical condition to fly home to the United States, but will remain at an American military hospital in Germany until mentally ready. The Obama administration faces continued Republican criticism for winning Bergdahl's freedom in return for five Taliban prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay. Speaking to CNN, Republican Senator John McCain claimed Obama has released, quote, hardcore military jihadists who are responsible for 9-11. Speaking to CNN, Secretary of State John Kerry defended the prisoner exchange. It would have been offensive and incomprehensible to consciously leave an American behind, no matter what. To leave an American behind in the hands of people who had tortured him cut off his head with any number of things... And we would consciously choose to do that? That's the other side of this equation." Wait a minute! Wait a minute wait a minute

12:00 Now, are you just trying to mess with me? Or are you just trying to go straight for the jugular. I mean there is without a doubt today right off the bat you get it. I mean no doubt about it. Are you kidding me?! What's wrong with this man! When I heard that he says you can't be eating him over there and torture him and then cut off his head... And then it was more stuff after cut off his head, which makes it even funnier. What do you do? Anyway the reason I thought that clip was hilarious and when you really listen to what he actually says that he had his head cut off and it's not like he is going to have his head cut off When I heard it the first thing I thought of was you in your anecdotes about your friend Every once a while You brought up one of those locals there in Texas That carries an idiot! And they'd always get irked at you

12:56 He's not gonna be, he's a genius. Yeah no no it... No if I say he's stupid, now it was different. It was- I said you're stupid is that you can't get into that position as Secretary of State if you're stupid and then I turned around and said well that's funny because you always tell me the George Bush was an idiot and he was president! And that's that line right? That's just a setup. That's yeah it's a set up. T-ball, T-ball. So Hagel Who is our new Secretary of Defense. By the way, chat room I've lowered the bitrate whatever... I just want to make sure that-I know it sounds crappy just for you People are like, you sound like sand! What kind of report is that people? We sound like sand Last time I heard sand it sounded like Adam Yeah Now Hagel, I wanted to remind everybody Our Secretary of Defense Is a boob

13:47 You know, this is the guy who fumbled and bumbled and they still said oh well. Oh shucks whatever we'll let you in We'll confirm you but he did a lot of things wrong And he had to go back and restate his answers during his confirmation hearings the guy not really on the ball and He looks exactly like droopy dog with those big bags under his eyes He's under fire now in a congressional hearing because Bo Diddley is still in Germany. He is not even home yet, this is you know it's a little confusing people haven't really talked about it so we haven't really gotten any intel from him and got a little heated there up on the hill. Mr Secretary you keep saying that we can't get the facts from Sergeant Bergdahl until he returns home

14:41 Have you ever thought about going to Lon Stool and talking to him there? What a concept. Well, I don't know how much medical training you had Congressman. I haven't had much uh and what we're doing is we are allowing... Tell you what Mr Secretary... The doctors... No Mr Secretary wait a minute wait a minute By the way i love how he just shuts up when the guy says wait a minute that's not something Any of the other secretaries would know that. No, not at all Why hasn't he been returned to the United States? We have seriously wounded soldiers That are returned to the United States almost immediately after they are stabilized How long did Jessica Lynch wait before she was returned to the United States You're trying to tell me that he's being held in Landstuhl Germany because of his medical condition Congressman I hope you're not implying anything other than that

15:35 stupid the fact that he is asking a question Mr. Secretary I'm gonna get an answer to and i don't like the implication of answering it answering he's being held there because our medical professionals don't believe he's ready until they're they believe he is ready humma humma humma wait about what? to take the next step but they don't believe he's just ready and not ready are you ready Freddy have you ever seen a traumatically injured service member brought to the United States immediately. With his head cut off? Upon being stabilized at launch stool, we do it all the time! This isn't just about a physical situation Congressman this guy was held for almost five years

16:19 in God knows what kind of conditions, we do know some of the conditions. You can hear his brain going he's because what comes out of his mouth is in god knows what kind of conditions oh crap I mean we do know some of the conditions you can hear his brain trying to correct his mouth which is just foaming with moronity this guy was held for almost five years in god knows what kind of conditions we do know some other conditions for intelligence community not from by the way burgdorf this is not just about can he get on his feet and walk and get to a plane so you're telling me there's cannot be questioned because of his condition i'm telling you is that they've been medical professionals who buy them out with their rely on their judgment for his health which i assume everybody respects now not really couple have made determination

17:09 And we'll make the determination that when he is ready to move and move to the next step, which will most likely be in San Antonio. Then we can proceed." This is obviously a nightmare situation. Yes. So there's reports already that Bergdahl has renounced his parents and he's all-in with the captors of Stockholm Syndrome or what it was...it was just a turncoat and they can't, they're trying to talk him out of giving that testimony. This is exactly like Wag the Dog and the Woody Harrelson character who was a rapist... Yeah yeah They were bringing back after this phony baloney rescue And he couldn't get his act together straight because he was a psycho that needed take a bunch of pills I think the same thing's going on with this guy Well you recall that they basically put

18:02 Bandcamp girl Marie Harf Like here you do the but you do that. You talk to that sign Yeah, but now they've really thrown this poor girl to the wolves They're making her go on shows I know it she was on a show did you see your gun with Andrea Mitchell? No, I didn't see it but i saw some clips of it. Oh my! Oh...I feel bad for this girl. I have a you know just the piece of it which was... I mean they're really they have no mercy on her. Hey Bandcamp Girl. Yeah hey Bandcamp Girl. Hey welcome to the big leagues kid. She's so stupid and she doesn't know how to field these questions properly and I don't think they care They just ask screw it its her fault She's not stupid but she reminds me of

18:49 Many... okay, she reminds me of your typical mid-sized company human resources girl. Do you know what I mean? Yeah no she has that element. It should be like... She says she thinks she's towing the company line and she's not And she's the one who has to call Adam can you do your time sheet That's what i envision her as Like a human resources girl. I just don't see her as a brainy actress. Well, she's not as sharp PR wolf is what you have to be here she is with Andrea Mitchell who was essentially eating her for lunch. Let me question about that because the Bin Laden raid was completely briefed for 11 months

19:29 and in fact, in the 48 hours prior to the raid was briefed to the top leaders. It was not actually it was not. The Bin Laden raid would be only other time we haven't briefed Congress on an operation. In fact that was claimed initially by sorry Marie Marie Marie Tom Donilon in fact at a conference with me a week ago but since that time Mike Morrell says that it was completely briefed he was acting CIA director And in contemporaneous time frame, I talked to a Senate chairman. Wait wait stop! Did Marie say what? It gets worse she's about to make the worst mistake The day after the raid and he said i'm so sorry I couldn't talk to you that Sunday we were together it was briefed Well I was the only spokesperson then if you remember and I think it's the same She just put her foot in the poop right there

20:18 spokesperson don't you remember yeah, I was Bergdahl is somewhat the same as bin Laden the architecture of what this might look like and Including in the Bergdahl case was briefed to Congress. So this is how she's been told to spin This that the architecture Was well known Yeah But that was she was sent away with that message and nothing else and hey bandcamp girl good luck I thought it was kind of mean Yeah, yeah it's a yeah But it also means that there's you know there's trouble if they're throwing her out. They're like please send her This with Susan Rice that one time remember well yeah Yeah, and how'd that work out for? Well, you know it Turns out that rice is not to that bright either I think these women are being used

21:12 Well then, uh... this I think is a perfect segue into something that somehow I thought you had said you were not going to do this anymore? No. Um... I said what i'm not gonna do anymore is Club 33. Mmmmm.... I recall a conversation at one point where you were not going to follow or report on the Miss America pageants, right? Or any pageant. Well this is Miss USA slightly different but I have to because there's political implications in these shows...I know! ...I've told this to Mimi who is moaning about my like watching these women walking up and down over and over again

21:52 Why is she complaining? What's wrong with that? She just thinks I'm a horndog or something to be watching three hours. And by the way, you record these shows you can't watch three hours. These are horrible shows there they're too long it's just ridiculous but whatever the case was there's a lot of political implications that show up for one thing you realize that these shows are rigged And I, you know as we can say everyone says oh yeah big deal this is news. Who is this a Trump outfit? Who produces it? This is the Trump one. Okay well then of course it's rigged. You want me to go into these couple of these clips? Yeah! This is a very important segment. Miss USA showed up on it. Let me just say The No Agenda Show Is not ashamed To delve into the political nature Of beauty pageants

22:41 And no, I'm always amazed that no one else does this. So it is our USP The only time they've actually done it, I'd say as a group of journalists was when that Miss, which I almost was gonna put that clip in there. The Miss South Carolina, Miss Teen South Carolina who made the huge gaffe botch. This show was... Let's start off with just an overview. There is bunch of women they bring them in and I don't even know if they have these competitions state by state because there was one Miss Washington, for example was jobbed out of she should have been in the top 20. She was a dead ringer for Jenny McCarthy only a little better looking and she didn't even get top 20 whereas Virginia

23:32 who looked horrible. She looked like a guy, she got in." This is just...I'm being objective here. And let me ask you why in this day of misogyny and yes all women? Why then people were there protests outside where their women yelling Trump as a douchebag Would that happen anytime we're advertisers pulling out? How can this how is this acceptable in this day and age you tell me I mean, this is another issue that needs to be discussed now Now so they had this but what I have to give Trump credit for and I think he has something To do with this when they finally get down to the final like six or so. Mm-hmm

24:16 You could throw a dart and it doesn't make any difference. They're all gorgeous I would say the exception to this was And somebody will grown into you have to let me finish this Miss Louisiana Miss Louisiana was not in the same universe as these other women She was a, I would call her an outrageous European style beauty queen of the order of Grace Kelly She was just not even, she was a cut above everybody else. Let me take a look. She was out of place! Because with these contests, and why I think we don't compete very well in Miss Universe. These contests pick the hyper cute girl Okay Just a cutest thing you've ever seen just cute as a bug kind of a cute whatever cutie pies Let me just see this is the blonde She's a dude make sure it's 2014. Yeah 2014

25:15 Brunette a little kind of dark brunetti. I don't know this whole bunch of it. I don't know what Okay, what's your name? Yeah? I don't even if you look at the right picture It's hard to find the right pictures But whatever the case is when you saw her Visually you'd go oh yeah She's she's gorgeous Whatever the case that one that one was Miss Nevada now miss Nevada who is a really cute girl also Also, Multiculti. Nia Sanchez. And here's the thing that... this is what shows me that this was rigged and of course it wasn't a bad choice because all five of these or six of them were at the end they were all any one of them could have won. In fact two or three of them looked like the same girl exactly! They look like sisters So let's go over just couple clips This is The Rigged Coincidence Let's play that clip

26:04 Hey, how are you? Nevada. Nevada. Nevada. Nevada. Nevada. I know everyone's got their way of saying it right Is this Juliana from the E-network Who's hosting? I don't know. She's just a horrible host and she gives the other guy crap, and they're scouring it, glowering at whatever they're looking at each other angrily... I need to know who is hosting this! Uh i'll look it up. I'll look it up. We'll reflect on that. Now now this is the part where you get the finalists and they're going from one to the other for casual conversation This isn't the final question. This is just the casual conversation now listen

26:46 conversation with Miss Nevada. The Miss USA contestants are under tight security as a fourth-degree black belt do you really need it? I appreciate the security that we have but i feel like and take care of myself, I've always felt very confident and I think it's a great thing for women to have that confidence to take care of herself So no messing with you right? All right Louisiana! Yeah yeah yeah I don't know if everybody at home can tell, but you are the hometown girl here. So what have you enjoyed most about welcoming others from Miss USA contestants to everybody with your organization and your state? Well it was really fun showing them our culture it's so vibrant and rich the hospitality here is great! Our culture! You can stop it. Let's go for example this just an example now we're going

27:44 the questions it is julianne rancic by the way that is she's the girl from the e-network okay here we go now we have that this is the question that the judge of the other one of these to question at the end this is a typical question and this was asked of miss louisiana uh... this is the usa louisiana clip they have two mrs louise idea USA Louisiana and Louisiana dash one is that just a mistake? I don't know. Please you say, Louisiana will see okay Thank you And we have judge number four, Ian Ziering. Your question please? Oh, Ian Ziering from Sharknado? Yeah hey how come we're not judges man if the Sharknado guy can get in In recent weeks the US has released five detainees from Guantanamo in exchange for one U.S soldier held captive in Afghanistan There you go The us policy is to leave no soldier behind

28:49 Do you think it's fair to sacrifice or swap lives in order to uphold this policy? I am glad that we got our guy back. However, I do not feel it is right that we subject ourselves to these acts of terrorism Should subject ourselves Thank You wait a minute. Thank you Louisiana did they have the producer like yeah clap now No, she's the local girl so they were just going nuts for her every time she showed up. But they went nuts for her when she said I don't think we should... what did you say? Give in to terrorism or something? Submit or subject ourselves. Yeah a little weird. And it wasn't that-I dunno what-it was an inane commentary She didn't know what she was trying to say

29:37 Meanwhile, they have these kinds of political questions and then if you remember the little intro at the beginning with Miss Nevada and her black belt. Yeah now we have the final question for her. All right let's see what we have here judge number five hey rumor rumor Willis your question please Recently, Time Magazine revealed that 19% of US undergraduate women are victims of sexual assault in college. Why has such a horrific epidemic been swept under the rug for so long? And what can colleges do to combat this?" What a shit question!

30:19 I mean, first of all the question to ask why has it been swept under the rug for so long? Well i don't know. What is that? That's not a nice question...that's a shitty question! But i don't know because Republicans hate women?! I would say something and what are you going to say to that well that would have been a good answer but no. I believe that some colleges may potentially be afraid having a bad reputation and that would be the reason it could be swept under the rug because they don't want that to come out into public but I think more awareness is very important so women can learn how to protect themselves. Myself as a fourth degree black belt, I learned from a young age you need to be confident in being able to defend yourself and i think thats something we should start to really implement for alot of women

31:10 Okay, well you know what? I think she did a good job on that answer. Yes, she did but it's a rigged question. Obviously it was meant for her so she could bring that black belt thing in again It was just so artificial and this entire thing I wonder...I would like to be a judge just to see what is going on in the background. I'm sure you have to sign non-disclosure Well here it is I am shocked! Shocked to find that gambling is going on in here Uh huh Yeah okay I don't know. That stupid little jingle in the background sticks in your mind, unfortunately. Oh! Here it is...

31:59 I could easily good actually could easily we have one more clip if you want to play which is Actually, what's this other one? I don't know what the other Louisiana one is. Um, I think it's the same line somehow I think just got doubled or something Yeah new North Dakota This is a way it opens up and it was actually North Dakota was a good-looking girl too But then like I said the last six were they're all same All right, North Dakota I like the green, I'm feeling you girl. So North Dakota what do you think your old bullies would say to you now that you're in the top six? Actually a lot of the bullies that I encountered in high school have apologized and I live in Fargo North Dakota still today and a lot of them still live there so I think they are incredibly big people for doing that and apologizing but yeah right it's example how you can push forward and keep going no matter what you face in life

32:52 Yeah, thank you North Dakota. Thank you! So that was the beginning walkthrough again so I should have ran it earlier but...so they bring up the bully issue of course and there's this gorgeous she's like 5'9", she's just really pretty girl and then they'd bring a bullying like she was bullied she was probably i would assume probably more one of the cliques And yeah, I bet people came up to him and apologized. Yeah! Hey, uh, really apologize... What are you doing on Saturday? I'm sorry about what that guy said. What are you doing there? I mean please! Exactly

33:28 Anyway, so the whole thing was it's a bit was I don't think it was didn't perform well for me as if As an analyst insofar as finding new memes or anything like that and it's just man Didn't it didn't just didn't do much. Well. I noticed something I talked to Mimi about though okay? because there's a bunch, not all of them. Miss Nevada didn't have it and a lot of these others but there is muscle in women that is the equivalent of six pack in men but goes up and down horizontally she explained to me this she says this comes from a damn I forgot to write down a special exercise has become pop

34:04 recently, it's called the royal chair or something. There is this thing you sit up in maybe somebody in the chat room knows. And this to exercise your core I presume? Or something like that? It's exercise...you use this chair to exercise all sorts of things but if you use it for stomach exercises, you do kind of crunches while you're on this thing, you get this protruding muscle that runs from just below the breast down to just under the belly button and it sticks out onto a thin woman And it looks weird when you see it, its like...it's kind of creepy to be honest about because it protrudes so much. And a number of these women had that problem at least half of them had this little issue from exercising. Well we need to find out more about this muscle Yeah she has the name for too It is specific female muscle

34:54 Wait a minute, do women have different muscle in their six-pack? This apparently has something to do with protecting the uterus during pregnancy. It's just specific muscle for... for women and it has a purpose. And that's why you see very few women, she says... I'm just relating what she tells me with six-pack abs because they're they just unless they take testosterone they haven't got enough uh.. They can't make those muscles. They can build the muscle up yeah! So this muscle is what happens instead and when is protruding it actually in it protrudes so much on some of these girls that makes them look like to have a little pot belly

35:31 And I just found when they're doing the bathing suit competition at least half of the women had this issue. The ones that were in the top six didn't, they just had normal shaped figures. I'm looking at the chat room but i'm not getting a lot Yeah there are probably just a bunch of guys who don't know anything Oh well we're getting a lot of stupid jokes that's for sure! Well we do have an official no agenda workout for it for the abs No agenda show, they get kicked to the crotch! Exactly. Okay, so yeah there you go. You're threatening again Anyway some housekeeping business A lot of people and I'm kind of happy on one hand to see that it's a lot On the other hand i'm sad about it But so many people have been listening to this program from very early on that even though we've had a new

36:38 Podcast feed for oh man how long now almost two years. I'm gonna guess longer than that longer than that Yeah, I don't know if it's really longer than two years yeah hmm Yeah, cuz you moved because you were freaked out yeah because I knew things were going to change And you can find that on every front page that our podcast is listed, noagendashow.com on any of the show notes it says right there podcast feed you can click on it and it'll subscribe you in iTunes or if you use something else that should work you should be able to use that feed a lot of people are still using the old Mevio feed yeah and all of sudden I'm getting tweets let's say like hey how come I need a password well

37:24 Yeah. You were going to say something? No, I was just reminded of the year we get this guy who wrote me a note...I'm not gonna say who it is but he says, I sent an email and I haven't gotten my ring! And I said did you go to NoahGeneration.com slash rings? And I haven't heard back from him I mean, as many times as we tell people to do something...I don't know how many times you have to tell them before they all know. I think it's probably an infinite number of times! Yeah and yeah I don't think it's, but i think is impossible. A lot of people just don't know they don't you know they clicked on something years ago right and they're not living the show no but um it's also it's okay you know i'm uh i'm just letting everybody know that i put in the show notes again in the actual show notes but it's on every single page feed dot na shownotes dot com slash rsx dot xml that does you nothing because you probably can't remember it but it's everywhere and if you're having an issue you probably yeah i just wonder

38:28 If people don't receive a show, do they...do a lot of them think oh well it's over or do they go? I just wonder. I think what you just said there must be people who say yeah i'm guilty of this Oh wow! I know that I've had a uh something I was following for a while and then somehow, it happens on my blog. I used to have a couple of things on my blog that one of the guys erased or got erased somehow and it's not on there anymore usually in a sidebar or something that was referring to something you know pointing somewhere talking about something and it disappeared and it would take me months to notice it months. Yeah but if your...I mean people who listen to No Agenda

39:17 I think it's kind of a habit and you know, you would be like hey it's Thursday. I haven't gotten anything or Sunday or Monday or where is it? Do people give up? Maybe! People just give up. Thank God rest whatever so that's just a little bit of housekeeping got an email here from Paul Pierteman in the Netherlands And he asked me to call you out as a douchebag Or if I could just hit you in the head with a rain stick. I told you not to do this. Oh yeah, for- Yeah, I know why He was traveling home from Denmark by train he was first told in Kolding the carriage is designated for

39:58 The Netherlands were not there because of the storm in Germany on Monday. So instead he had to travel- don't do it! To Frankfurt am Main, get up at 6 a.m., and change there since he'd paid for sleeper carriage for a reason that's very unpleasant It gets worse in Frankfurt We were supposed to get on ice to Amsterdam but did not go further than Cologne Because of the storms on Tuesday night having destroyed the track and overhead wires I wanted to go to Eindhoven via Dusseldorf and Venlo, but Düsseldorf and the segment of Venlo seemed to be completely out as well. Huh! Fly my friend fly! The Deutsche Bahn put me in a taxi to Utrecht so i got home with the delay of five hours John is a douchebag for playing with the rain stick on Sunday

40:41 Well, you gotta be careful. You don't realize the power of the stick. The stick? Well this is... we weren't both doing it because that's when it really caused us trouble It rained here after I didn't even touch my stick and it rained here How long do you go without touching your stick? I can go quite a while Alright very good Hey! It's a comedy show everybody Congratulations James Bertelsen Kilo Golf 7 Mike Juliet November Brand New Ham I've promised that if people get their ham radio license because of the show, we're gonna call them out with our new call sign. And we have luckily a presidential proclamation because gee! We don't have enough This has been a busy month. We don't have enough? It just seems like a waste of time Well June 15th is very sp- Oh boy

41:41 Don't take it the wrong way. It's just, it's the only proclamation is World Elder Abuse Awareness Day. Quit hitting me! World elder abuse? That's a good one. Yeah apparently... well let's see what the president says Each year the international community renews its commitment to addressing human rights issue that too often goes ignored. Elder abuse neglect and exploitation I'm exploiting you. Elder abuse damages public health and threatens millions of our parents, grandparents and friends It's a crisis that knows no borders or socio-economic lines. I think there's laws Yeah just regular...I don't think you need a special day for it but okay KEEP IT DOWN IN THERE YOU JABBERMOUSE! I'M TRYING TO WATCH C-SPAN 2

42:35 And that's the only proclamation we have from the president. You're getting old man Simpson clips for the show now? I had not heard that one yet, someone sent it to me. Okay... I liked it because it was C-SPAN 2. C-SPAN 2! Got this off of C-SPAN 2. Yeah But anyway, I would like to thank you for your courage as always John and say in the morning to you. Yeah in the morning to all of you. John C. Dvorak! And in the morning to Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs to all the dames and knights out there Well you don't have to run through it It's okay Might as well In the morning yeah To all the human resources in our chatroom noagendastream.com Noagendachat.net Also in the morning to all of our artists Thank You very much Sir Nussbaum

43:21 for the artwork on episode 624 and we'll look forward to the art for 625er obviously, which we'll be choosing right after this show. We're going to choose it quick today because I got a run. Where are you going? I'm driving up to Plano! Plano?! That's a long drive for you. Three and half hours. Yeah. It's uh...for HamCom I thought ham is that where it is well you had Dayton which I missed because we were in Tokyo We're in Tokyo, but ham com is a you know. It's pretty big Texas thing It's a Texas thing when people do fly-in for it And you know I got my I got my 20 meter and my 40 meter antenna on the truck So I'll be slumming it on the sideband all the way up oh

44:08 And I'm on my way. Yeah, I'm staying. I'm staying two nights Still nice. I know, well it starts early the flea market... This is bad. I know it's bad so you have the flea markets Why did you get this old mic? Yeah that's exactly it! I love this key. I used to use one of these mics when I was a kid When I was in the military So the flea market starts at 8, so I'd... Oh you gotta go to that. Yeah! I want to get up early and then of course I don't want to drive back the same day so i'll stay overnight and go back Saturday. Scientist for your man cave. And Mickey is making fun of me

44:56 Bet she is. She's like I'll pack you a brown paper bag lunch and do you have your holster for your cell phone? She's very very mean, but anyway we'll be looking at no agenda art generator dot-com for your artwork after the show. Not a great day support-wise... No, this is terrible day I want to remind people that you're giving us pause for concern here we have zero and i'll say that again zero executive producers and zero associate executive producers in fact for the entire show anyone donating over fifty dollars amounted to twenty two people out of probably a world of 100 thousand

45:42 at least over 10,000 people on the mailing list and that's the best you could do. And I have a lot of thoughts on why this happened... Okay is it me? Did i mess up again? No yeah it's your fault okay Well, I would say this that one guy in the last show with a guy who became the insta-baron gave more money one single guy and then everybody combined on this show five or some sorry six to five. And it's I think everybody has to think about this what why would everyone just drop off and just...I mean we even The Anonymous Lesbian came in on this show and she can't afford it

46:23 People have to realize that you know we need to have a constant cash flow I'm reminded of the day when there used to be a butcher shop that I used to go to that had venison elk at all this stuff and I Went there as much. I went there for a while, then I kind of forgot about the place or I decided Yeah, I don't know what happened I just got lazy And I didn't go there I didn't support the place and let me guess and You went by it and the guy was closed yeah out-of-business And I don't say it's just my fault. I'm not the only one who, you know, who likes to eat elk and had a butcher shop where i could get it and didn't go there enough to keep the guy in business but that's the kind of thing that can happen oh yeah and when we go to the market to the Saturday market here in Austin and we kind of...I don't think we've missed really a day unless we were out of town or maybe one time we were just

47:18 I don't know, not even whether just for some reason we stayed in but maybe once. We were hung over that's right i forgot But we go out in the cold, in the rain and these people are appreciative. They're like oh man thanks for coming out! And of course this always gets me the best cuts of meat later on in the year but I'm doing it to support them and you know like the chicken people they really weren't getting the support they needed at the market...they're now gone Now they've just moved their business —I think— they're selling more to a larger supplier So they've kind of made this decision, you know well why don't we then just kind of work for one guy and sell a lot more and now everyone else gets screwed. But they had to because people just weren't supporting them enough. Right! And that happens. That can happen in this show... Let's put it this way You've got the show, you like the show, you listen to the show, you're not supporting the show at least today Your alternative is Alex Jones

48:21 That's what you're gonna be listening to. And rents dot com, that's gonna be your insight is all gonna come from this guy and rents and maybe one or two others Virginia Dare whatever the other there's a bunch of these characters and they have analysis I don't think it's not the same kind of analysis that we provide in any way And you just have to think about that. This is your alternative, there's very little choice in the market and so far as this sort of analysis that we provide and yeah okay we do the Miss USA contest these are only four or five of these a year and they try not to belabor them if they're not interesting but there's other stuff that we do obviously that's very important to most people I think you need to look at it differently John I think if people want us to sell boner pills and seeds and iodine

49:16 If you want to be poisoned by this show. All right, we will have a segment of producers because of course some people came in and did support us just no executives or associate executive producers that is it has I don't recall does this happen before? It must have happened two years ago And it happened once before that. This is only the, I believe the third time this has ever happened where nobody...I don't know It could be they're all on vacation? I have no idea where everybody went but there's like they all disappeared just at once Well we do appreciate the support please think of us for this coming Sunday Devorac.org slash and of course We always need more people to come in and not donate to support us! Our formula is this

50:05 We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order! Shut up! Shut up! Sleep! I want to jump right into some Agenda 21 stuff There's a first an email he got from did you get this from Brian the firefighter? I don't know. Hey John, of course he sent it to me for you so hey John! I just heard you discussing the forest fires and the main issue being people moving deeper into the forests Oh yeah no i did get this email Having worked as a forest firefighter I believe the root cause is the logging policy now I'm reading this email for reason because that the president even saying well your forest fires its because climate change

50:57 I want to mention, I mentioned to him and i'll mention it you. When I sent him a note back that when I did the exposition of this little hearing where Markey didn't pay any attention anybody and just said we're all gonna die. I mentioned that one one of the two scientists were testifying he who talked about the drought years showing up during global cooling. It wasn't him, but the other guy who talked about forest fires being partly... He also said that the logging has really fallen off and that we don't have a good pro-logging policy one that works has contributed to this problem he mentioned it

51:44 So, I just didn't play that part of the clip. Well our firefighter says back in 06-07 there was a bill that was rejected in the Oregon Senate that would have increased the logging on state lands to a fraction of a percent higher even though the increase was substantially less than the regrowth rate of the forest it was rejected for political reasons from my understanding the policy has been to suppress fires and prevent logging which has resulted in the perfect storm that we're seeing now And he was fighting fires in the summer of 07. The forests were choked with dense trees and bushes that easily caused a canopy fire." Yeah, but this is being played off as global warming! Yeah global warming and it's becoming increasingly... well it's a little frustrating to me how

52:30 Now it's just gotten to the point where there are two things going on. One is people are so tired of hearing about it they don't give a crap, nothing works! They don't care if you believe in or don't believe it...they just don't care The problem is a lot of policy is being set because of it, which is going to I believe hurt people in other ways. Yeah! And that's why it's important but you also get shouted down so easily... Here's actually this is the Bill Maher show someone alerted me to this and I can't watch the program This is Bill Maher's Overtime, so it's not actually on the show. You can only get it on the web. And he has with him on the show Ralph Reed who I had to look up... Do you know this guy? Ralph Reed is interesting because he was a superstar politico with a consulting business very good-looking kid and then he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar of some corruption

53:27 Oh really? I didn't know about this. And then, funny because during... he was kind of ousted as one of the great conservatives uh... He was a conservative spokesperson for certain kind of conservatism or religious conservative. Ah! He was part of the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal Yes and now the funny thing was when i was writing a lot of columns I had found out that he was involved with Microsoft because one of the things he was doing, what's called astroturfing the public about some product or something. And I kind of blew the whistle on him and got rid of him. So he is also a... What am I hearing here? Oh, I see what people are hearing. Hold on a second. No no! Don't do that John. He'll be back

54:26 She's walked in naked. No, it's I was trying to figure out here this sound but it's coming from outside It's like a it says like an 8k tone of something that whenever I'm talking I hear it in the background It's not what is it? I'm not sure well. That's probably just one of those Things are trying to beam into your brain. Yes. I think it's either a weed whacker or two really loud locusts. It's a locus plague Alright, onward. Have you ever been in an area where there's a locust infestation going on? No but I do know that it's happening right now in Libya

55:02 Well, apparently Gaddafi had this whole locust management program going on for years and when we came in and saved everybody... I guess that's... I have not heard this. Oh well just Google it for a second. Apparently it is really bad so Locust Libya Yeah, of course. I mean why would we tell you anything? Here desert locust outbreak in Libya... Oh God! Yeah yeah here with Gaddafi gone... These are nasty! Locust plague in Libya... Yeah oh look at that oh my goodness when you see the the pictures it's outrageous so they had an outbreak in 2003 and of course this is not just contained to Libya this will spread to can spread to large portions of Africa

55:51 And the crazy thing about it is, you know, the locust plague. Isn't that one of the seven signs or something? Yeah well it happens every seven years or so... Right So this is terrible Oh my god look at that picture It's a wall of these things The rapture is upon us Well I'll tell ya these things are nasty but if you go in there they have them They crop up everywhere and some years back Atlanta had a breakout And when you go into town, they just eat everything. When you're wandering around and they fall on you every once in a while... Oh it's horrible when they fall on ya! It is a big thing that hits you in the shoulder. It's like cicadas. But yeah well there's almost the same thing.

56:35 They, uh... There's this buzzing sound everywhere. It's a bzzz everywhere you go is this buzzing sound it's very weird it's very creepy yeah that's why we're looking at a new casa by the way here in Austin We need to have a house that has actually closed off to the environment We need to have proper windows and everything so. It's a heap of filters No, it's not we have the filters but the place is open I mean you can hear everything if someone walks past the house and farts You'll hear it smell it even worse Alright back to Rex Reed. Right so Rex Reed and I he seems to be preaching more evangelism But I guess he's there to be made fun of as someone who believes in God You crazy man you crazy, man And the topic of global warming comes up and Anthony Weiner is on the show interestingly enough and two other people I don't remember who but this is the clip

57:41 of what's his face. Ralph Reed with Bill Maher On the issue of climate change, I believe the climate changes. I believe in variations in the climate throughout history and that is documented Yes that's not the controversy But the facts are these... And this by the National Oceanographic Agency That from 1975 until about 2000 the global mean surface temperature increased by about a half a degree centigrade. Since 2000, it has not increased at all. Bullshit! How about that huh? Meyer just says bullshit

58:25 Right in the middle of this. Yeah, and here comes Wiener. But let's just assume for a moment there is no global climate change Why isn't it the religious God-fearing thing to do to protect our earth under any circumstance? Thanks, Weiner. Please... What an idiot! So that goes on but- But I- Wow That is the response you get that's like with the hearings that i played the clips of where these two guys they have all these things to say and then the guy concludes- Just says bullshit You might as well say bullshit. Exactly the opposite! Yeah, and then go the opposite so that nobody will listen to reason on that side and then they shout you down and say that you're a liar or this is not facts... It's astonishing to me I have never seen it. It's almost like mass hysteria in a very funny way. I have never seen anything like it

59:17 It must have a name. It must be everybody as is I mean never not everybody obviously but but it's and nobody doesn't if people cannot see the political side of this where you have Why is that all one? You know, why is it a political issue? Why are the Democrats on one side of the issue in there publicans on the other I mean, why is that? And have some thoughts on this. Well first let's listen and I want to talk about that. I want to hear your thoughts because that is pretty much exactly the way it is now being drawn up and of course both sides are playing it politically um...and I can only imagine that you know whether you're for or against there's money to be made both ways. That's the way I see it

1:00:00 But I guess we finally wrapped up that series on, I believe it was Showtime, years of living dangerously. This is, you'll recall we played some clips. Thomas Friedman who was a columnist I believe for the New York Times? Yes, he was hosting this. He's the one that is probably...we talked about him before He works for the CIA or one of the agencies It doesn't say that but it's pretty obvious. He comes in with the final episode and sits down with the president And of course this is where we knock it out of the park, right? We've got a... Home runs! What do we gotta deliver. I found this little dialogue to be astonishing. When you're dealing with a lot of those people in the House Republican caucus climate skeptic at best denier at worst

1:00:55 Every once in a while you just want to go off on them. I mean, go off like a Roman candle! What is it with you people? You know your kid is sick and you consult 100 doctors 97 of them tell you to do this 3 tell you to do that and you wanna go with the three Isn't that lovely how they've now taken a percentage down to actual numbers So its gone from 97% to just three guys left Yeah, and when we had the guy who did the Oregon petition of scientists climate scientists and everyone in between who have signed the petitions saying this is bullcrap 30 thousand

1:01:32 So if that's 30,000 then that represents 3%. You can't come up with that other number. It's a scientist! Show me the other guys exactly. Not conservative? I mean do you ever just want to... Yeah absolutely. Look it is frustrating when the science is in front of us. And we can argue about how but let's not argue about what's going on The science is compelling the baseline fact of climate change is not something that we can afford to deny and if you profess leadership in this country at this moment in our history, then you've got to Recognize that this is going to be one of the most significant long-term challenges If not the most significant long term challenge That this country faces and the planet faces. The good news is that? the public may

1:02:34 get out ahead of some of these politicians. And I think that as the public starts seeing greater frequency of extreme weather events, as they start seeing that what used to be hundred year storms seem to be happening every year or two... Lots of great performatives and you know the science is compelling, seemed-to-be, some really good words he uses here and you start seeing the economics of inaction, then people start thinking, you know what? We're going to reward politicians who talk to us honestly and seriously about this problem. Shut up already! It's science! The Science is In! Science! So I found that to be quite disturbing. It was very disturbing and there was nothing you could do about it. I was disturbed with those clips from last show

1:03:32 And it's like there is, it's the weirdest thing I'm telling you. It's one of the weirdest phenomenons that I've ever seen. I mean this is weirder than the Beanie Baby thing which I have equated with Bitcoin. And let's be honest...I thought that was weird! Oh yeah no and during that Beanie Baby phase I was doing that show Silicon Spin and people would come on and we'd get into heated debates about it. At that point we also thought the Beanie Babies were the end of civilization Well there's that into this huge debate. Oh no, these are valuable! These are going to be worth a lot of money!" No, this is very wise to invest in these. You're nuts to think about it. It's the same thing with Webvan. How can you make money delivering all this food like this from one company? This is the new economy. They were

1:04:19 all in on the new economy. If you remember, the new economy accounted for everything... The new economy yeah I'm sure. ...in the last two thousand and put the country into a tailspin we've never recovered from Yep, the new economy. The Y2K another one! Everyone's all in on this Y2... Oh oh the world's old and ATM machines are gonna fail the power grid is going to go down all these horrible things are gonna happen it's a known fact you can't be super cautious You have to buy into this otherwise you're taking a huge chance by being irresponsible by mocking it My public company at that time

1:04:57 Think new ideas. We had mandate from, we were on NASDAQ but there was a mandate for all public companies to be Y2K compliant. You could not get out of it and we were, we had uh you know Windows and Macs yet we had to have an audit...you know it cost tens of-it might've cost us $60 000. Everybody paid a huge price for this bullcrap and it contributed to the economic collapse in 2000 2001 We had clients, you know Reebok, Anheuser Busch

1:05:33 Johnson & Johnson, and they required us—of course ultimately they paid for it—but they required us to prove and go through compliance that the code that was running for their website's—I mean please, for Budweiser.com okay? That it was Y2K compliant! So we had... A website?! Yes yes yes! We had to hire Boston Consulting Group That's when we said, fuck we're in the wrong business. We got to be Boston Consulting Group this is great and they turned around and just hired a whole bunch of other consultants. Yeah it's your consultants dream come true! And it's just bullcrap

1:06:16 But, you know it's... there is a lot going on with this and we now have I got to take Eric the constitutional lawyer out to dinner again because he does a lot of these permitting in Texas for gas powered energy plants power plants. And, you know, he deals with this so i'm gonna have to ask him about the new EPA regulations and its really quite insane the stuff that's going on with what the EPA, now it's a power mower. With what the EPA has...what they can do It's just uh you know and now the whole thing is don't raise your voice or raise your voice don't raise the sea level You know this whole thing about acidification Actually there was a great article written by I didn't know who this guy was Eric S Raymond? No

1:07:12 You don't know that's funny. He wrote, he is kind of like the opposite of Richard Stallman I don't know him Really? Yeah. That's... well, I didn't know him either until i saw the picture and like yeah! I guess he wrote to there's like two sides to open source there's the Stallman which is everything should be free free free and then there's Raymond Eric Raymond who says it should be open source but you should be able to make money on it and yeah I'm looking at his picture I don't think I've ever seen him interesting uh He's also part of the the VI versus EMAX wars

1:07:51 Maybe he's more like a Unix geek culture. I just don't know about him, but I couldn't really play... There is a picture of him when you go to Google and type in Eric S Raymond and out of the blue there is a picture of making out with some woman. You see that picture? He seems like kissing some hottie in tight blouse So the guy has got something going on. He's cross-eyed. It's funny. Bald You know, drop out but has done well. The chat room knows him of course so he wrote this article hoping for the crazy which is about the global warming scam and it's pretty short but its pretty good I put in the show notes you should check it out and... Well I guess if he doesn't engender enough hatred that'll finish him off What he specifically points out is that the article is titled Hoping For The Crazy

1:08:46 And what he's saying is that the alarmist, the warmest, the global warming all in sciences... The sciences in. They are praying for El Nino! They desperately want El Nino to happen this year because of course El Nino will change the world weather. It does all the time. Yeah it warms everything you get crazy just crazy storms and they're praying that's why I said the title of the article was Hoping For The Crazy And then, so that's...it'll be interesting to see if it pops up. It just gonna get worse? Yeah there was a thing on C-SPAN about six months ago with the...It was one of those little meetings at one of the think tanks

1:09:27 And it was a guy who was discussing computer simulations and computer modeling, which most of this global warming fear is based on. Yeah models that don't pan out Models that don't pan out and he discussed the danger He says you just they should this apparently and it was unfortunately the guy was very boring speaker I couldn't clip anything but his thesis was these should never be used for policy ever Because they're just a, it's a crapshoot with these computer models. Of course! But you know and we've seen it with so many things but right at the top is the models that have been adjusted readjusted that have been massaged We had the climate gate emails and I mean there are so many people It's for politicians particularly now They put this 2030 date out there which is the date that we called on the show. We said oh just watch 2030 it's gonna be that

1:10:21 And it's great because politicians can say anything they want and probably most of them won't be in office by 2030. Some of them won't even be alive, so it's really easy to just say stuff like that but big mistakes get made. This is why I want to hear your opinion about how it's completely political. I can also see a strategy, an overall strategy which failed for Kleiner Perkins by the way but let's make this myth or this... Not even that climate change is a myth but let's turn this into the economy. I don't know if it can actually work

1:11:05 But if everyone was believing something like this, maybe we could all be working towards that and it would spin stuff up. And what do you think? I think they had their opportunity. Earlier in the climate change debate, I think they had more of the people's will as opposed to kind of what you're observing which is who cares I think that was bigger than when, in fact... Kleiner Perkins went all in on green technology. Clean tech and green. As a consultant to help them out, and they tanked all these companies it was a complete disaster. I mean essentially Kleiner Perkins isn't even in the you know they're not even about player essentially anymore there still big name but they haven't made any money for anybody as opposed some of the guys who stayed with Tech which is what they knew you know pure tech. Even that barely

1:12:06 And so they, so I think that's past. I don't think these guys are living in the past to think that any of this is gonna work. All they're gonna do is they're gonna screw things up to such a point that they're going have to eventually and it just will be probably around 2020 elect a Republican after Elizabeth Warren comes in and makes things worse. She's going to be the Jimmy Carter of this era. Oh wow! She is, you can just see it. Please artists if you're thinking of making a Jimmy Carter Elizabeth Warren art don't. We're not going to use it! Don't! Not gonna use it

1:12:44 Then when they get back in 2020, kind of the way Ronald Reagan did. They're gonna have to reverse all these policies I mean a lot of these things go way out and they just you know They take over the place for a little while and kick some ass And get these policies what best they can although a lot of this will already be sending us down the wrong road But this is terrible This is living in the past and this global warming thing is not going to pay off for anybody It's going to hurt us, hurt the country. Something interesting happened... The Chinese aren't doing any of it they're just going on their merry way. Oh yeah well they're Chiners. Something interesting happened which I find interesting for a reason that i have not seen discussed anywhere in the mainstream which is why I believe most people listen to this program often known as the best podcast in the universe

1:13:34 So apparently Eric Cantor, who was...now was he going to be the speaker? What was his deal? No. He was the majority leader for the Republicans. And if Boehner stands down, he would have been the next speaker and... Arguably a powerful guy within whatever the Republican Party is. Right I do have a clip that kind of just sums it up. Very good. Okay, the wiped out? Cantor wiped out. Breaking tonight a stunning development on this primary election night if you are just joining us one of the most powerful Republicans in Washington has just lost his congressional bid to a Tea Party challenger virtually no one expected

1:14:19 to win. Welcome to the Kelly file everyone I'm Megan Kelly The news breaking just a short time ago that House Majority Leader Eric Cantor has been defeated by Dave Brat, a little known and little funded political novice Mr. Cantor was first elected to Congress in 2000 and became majority leader in 2011 His opponent accused him of turning his back his constituents. All right, I don't give too much of a crap about the whole story except for one angle and I think that the narrative is being spun purposely to say well it was about immigration or something whatever it was I have no idea maybe you know who knows why this brat guy won but one thing we know

1:15:07 is that he did it with, I think $200,000 in total. And the joke is he spent about 120 of the 200. Right He didn't even spend at all Eric Cantor had millions of dollars! I think he had 2 million So... and he spent-2.2 million and he spent it all. And I looked it up on OpenSecrets.org KOOK BROTHERS!!! Apparently no matter how much money they have They can't buy the country This is not being talked about. No, that's that is the overlooked fact I mean they do mention it they talk about but they don't really bring up the simple point that you can't necessarily buy an election because Cantor got like 20 for all his money spent he could have just given people tenors here or a $20 bill He only picked up 25 thousand votes Yeah total

1:16:04 in this district, which I think has a quarter of a million or half-million people in the district. Or more and he gets 25 thousand votes. The other guy gets 35 thousand, which is 10 more for less money And it was, I think either issue-based or there was a lot of talk radio. The guy got a lot of air free time on talk radio. You know what? I don't care! All i know is he did it with 1 tenth of the money and a lot of the canter money came from the Koch brothers So, so you can... everybody can now stop saying the Koch brothers run the country. You can say that they should stop saying it? Yes! And of course I don't really want them to stop saying it because, you know... You lose the theme. I mean honestly it's too much fun. Too much fun to play that. Meanwhile what no one has even discussed really two bills were assigned into law by the president. Stop before you...I just thought is.... The funny thing

1:17:04 The way they portray the Koch brothers is... Hold on, you said it. Koch Brothers! When you say it I gotta play it. Conservatives crazy conservative maniacs and this Tea Party guy who's actually a professor at a college university nearby was the conservative character that would probably epitomize It seems to me what the Koch brothers would be for so So even that generality doesn't hold in this. This Koch brothers thing is ludicrous. Yeah, but it's fun to have an evil player right? It's fun to have an evil player. Where is their donation? Really! The president signed two bills into law and it was the Mr Obama not Mrs Obama as we know CNN thinks she signs bills into law but she didn't do this one

1:17:55 And the one that was of interest to me, 182 pages HR 3080 known as WRDA. WRDA! The Water Resources Reform and Development Act of 2014 This is a very very very bad piece of legislation and I think we should be concerned As this particular bill, and I've marked it. It's a very heady one. I've marked it up and it's in the show notes as usual. It includes a large loan guarantee hundreds of millions to cities and states to create public and private partnerships for water management essentially privatization of public water supplies. Exactly

1:18:55 Now that it's signed, it requires the Army Corps of Engineers to solicit through the Federal Register proposals from private corporations regarding quote water resources development needs including drinking and wastewater systems. Now this is very troubling The last thing, I think even like Paris. You know Paris would sell out everything if they had to but the Parisians themselves have gone into battle over privatization of their water

1:19:31 You cannot allow that to happen. Well, the funny thing is it's a French company that's promoting this They're so good at it We had a This situation up in the Pacific Northwest where this French companies moved in on the PUD and have brought it you know they meet with all these idiots that run these small cities and you know mostly corrupt little operations And they come in and you know Show them a good time and have a slideshow showing how much money you'd save if you use their services instead of the public Services, and they're making inroads. This one company I'll have to get the name for it next show... They are huge French conglomerate that does this. And it's-and I am really against this type of move. I don't care who it is! This is something there are few things that really should not be left to

1:20:26 private companies. No, and we saw that... Especially French private companies! Exactly and we saw that in California when they took over the power grid and you had these Enron guys and these other people that were controlling literally the flow of energy and we had these rolling blackouts during During the one of the administration's a Democrat great Davis the governor. Well, we were stuck because the Democrats are all in on that We're doomed. Oh looks like for the rest over this we're gonna have to get used to it We have to get used to the rolling blackouts and the brown outs every day There's going to be a blackout there can be a brown out

1:21:05 And then they found it was a scam. Huge scam! And that guy, of course, was voted out by a recall election which is pretty embarrassing He got voted out because he was an idiot and it was a huge scam and scandal There was no reason for these blackouts It was just to jack up the prices and screw the public That's what these guys will do So now we have this... I guess when you We have like public-private partnerships. I mean, it's bullshit! They had this in the Netherlands when i lived there you know when i had money and uh always had the Amsterdam government yeah we can do a public private partnership what exactly does that mean well that means you spend all the money and you get all the profits and we give you the licenses to do it exclusively It was about a skating rink. Yeah, giving us like a legal monopoly

1:22:02 And that's the problem we're having right now. People are arguing about net neutrality when they should be arguing about why does Comcast own the area? It's funny you bring it up. Why does Time Warner own Texas? Yeah, and what's the municipalities they've made deals anti-competitive deals It's funny you bring that up. Dave Jones, who does the whole Freedom Controller and he's in all the programming... I was talking to him—he's a systems administrator of course—and he said —I wrote down what he said— He said bandwidth at these cable co—that any broadband provider has promised is very much like state pensions You just keep promising and promising And then somewhere at the end of the day everybody wants their pension or their bandwidth

1:22:53 And it's really not there. The promise is just a promise, and when you look at the wireless LTE broadband which you get 50 megabits per second on that...why? Because there's a cap on it! People don't want to screw up their billing so they're more conservative. It works without any legislation that'll basically make the incumbents utilities And by the way, just the fact that there are LTE broadband providers means you have alternatives. It's just people don't like to think of it that way because they've been lied to about some fictional flat pricing all-you-can-eat and just think about it You know if you're gonna get these French guys running your water and believe me prices will change... You can't leave your tap open all day drinking my Netflix water! Can't do that Oh, it's gonna suck so bad man when we get that

1:23:56 But if they take the fluoride out, I'll be all for it. That would be a plus. You could drill a well. In some areas it's illegal! Can't even drill a well on your own property. Yeah that is... what do you think of these machines that take the humidity out of the air and turn it into drinking water? Have you ever looked at those? Yeah dehumidifying uh yeah. Is that any good? I don't think you can get that with the pans. If you're in a high humidity area, you probably get quite a bit of water out of it. But is that good drinking? Desalinization is the long-term solution. You mean just taking saltwater and... They need new technology to do that. Somebody always mentions, if anyone gets on a Navy ship

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1:27:35 Completely insane. But of course all of this... And you're a sitting duck! Yeah, with the big orange target on your back. Big orange target? Hey shoot me! Why'd they make him orange?! What's the point of that!? I don't know. In case hunters are there and they don't want to think their deer or something? Just the whole thing and this commercial though is just it does this really sell this product not to me then sell it to me no but we're we're not zombies Well anyway, this all of course comes on the heels of what if you look at it from a little distance and I actually did something interesting as an experiment. I locked myself out from all media for the entire Tuesday because i knew stuff was happening but then I jumped back into it Wednesday so I got kind of an interesting view

1:28:31 A Tuesday-less view. Yeah, an aggregation of all of the commentary... ...of the multiple shootings Of course all these end somehow in suicide or not sure We're definitely not seeing anything Which is irksome at best and then you know it's a suicide, and then it's not a suicide But we have video where we can't show you video because just like the Boston bomb. It's the CNN actually Let's see what Brolf's friend here learning in Las Vegas young tell us about what you learn What do you learn? What did you learn girl well in this news conference there were quite a few details And one of the most stunning was the surveillance tape that was released on

1:29:20 I want to explain what you're about to see because we're only going to play it once. This is interesting, we are only going to play this once! So I'm like, okay! Here we go. I'm recording and ready to see it. Don't want to be gratuitous about it It's about 17 seconds long... Don't wanna be gratuitous And the video you're about to see The two people who are identified as the gunman The man is Jared Miller He's further away from the video screen Closer to the screen Is his wife Amanda Miller They're cornered in the Walmart They have debris around them That they're using To try to barricade themselves from the police Jarred Miller has already been shot

1:29:55 Now, hold on a second. I'm thinking what? You're only gonna show this once and it contains NOTHING. She points the gun kind of in his direction, then maybe she's turning around and fades to black. Oh don't show it to me again because man I might be shocked by that video! We saw nothing! Why did police release this video? Yeah why?! They want people... Why? To play with such drama Drama and create a story around it That's the whole point This video they want people to understand that she did not shoot her husband out as they first reported in their news conference

1:30:53 and that officers initially did think that happened because it certainly appears that way if you look at this video. There is a lot of video evidence, officers say they don't want to release at all because it is so detailed and so violent Again, why can't we see this? This is the same... How violent is it? It's only the uh.. It's the same with Santa Barbara. You know did we see- no! We can't see that kid who got shot in the grocery store. No if you go on YouTube you can see Syrians shooting people in the head from behind and every kid has seen this

1:31:31 Back in the day we had faces of death. Remember that video? Faces of Death? My favorite! I'm reminded of the 911 calls from Sandy Hook. Same thing! God, though we can't play these and then we got them and played them on our show Yeah What was on there? Well it's one teacher got shot in the foot And a custodian was running around saying custodian custodian It was... There were long clips and there was no.. There was nothing of any concern on those tapes. But the painted sound as if there was, what was the point of that? And let's go back further... The Boston bombers

1:32:09 Where's the tape? Even the governor of the state of Massachusetts has not seen that video, of the Sarnef brother putting the backpack into the trash can. By the way there was a... it was a history channel special I think where they showed that video but it wasn't really that video because in the left-hand corner had said simulation It was a kind of composite they put together and made it look like it, but was really small in the left-hand corner. So... Whether this is true or not we're not seeing it We're only being told about it now add to this the I'll just have to call it coincidence Eric Holder two weeks ago saying that he was enacting a domestic terrorism task force and team Time magazine on

1:33:10 The 5th of June, publishing an article about how Australia did a big gun buyback after they had this mass shooting. I think 28 people were killed...I'm going back 2006 or 2007 i think? And of course Australia doesn't have a constitutional right to bear arms And then all of these things just kind of start to play together, and we get a number of...a succession of messages from MSNBC was I mean if they had more people watching would make a difference.

1:33:55 But clearly they got some memo and, you know that here we must do this. Some guy was filling in on the Ed show I don't know who he is but he just laid it out plain and simple Another neighbor said that Jared Miller spoke of overthrowing the government often Jared was a very controlling man always wanted to talk about overthrowing the government how Obama is He's disgusting. This is what we call teacup television where you hear the voiceover say, look at the tea cup and you see a teacup So this guy just said- The neighbor said he wanted to overthrow the government And then the neighbor says he wanted overthrow the government It's just reinforcement it's how reality shows are made

1:34:40 See what I mean? You ain't gotta be a genius to figure out the correlation between the two. At this point, the motive of the shooting is not entirely clear to law enforcement Officials did say they believed that swastika was a symbol equating law enforcement This is another thing So we have 2 cops shot dead point blank range in a coffee shop apparently A flag with the Gadsden flag that don't tread on me thrown over them with a swastika Now There's a lot of blood, there are a lot of people around but not a single video. Not a single iPhone video Nothing! Nothing on YouTube. NOTHING! No flag picture... nothing That is just so peculiar to fascism

1:35:26 We don't necessarily believe that they are white supremacists or associated with the Nazi movement. This is the cop speaking? We believe that they equate government and law enforcement, fascism and those who support it with Nazis. Now this is also new that in a press conference before any you know... The details are barely in that we have a police chief giving an assessment essentially of two suspects who are dead, who he has not questioned. You know the only people whose done any questioning I guess is the media so very interesting that he's saying this. That constant drumbeat from our neighbors to the right who consider government the problem and not the solution... I believe he's talking about the Republicans Who are constantly delegitimating and vilifying What? Delegitimate! Delegitimating baby

1:36:16 I think it's D legitimate legitimizing no legitimatizing a deal of digitimatizing. It's not legitimate eating we know that That's pretty from at the problem and that the solution who are constantly delegitimating and vilifying elected officials who are constantly holding those they disagree with in in the kind of most ridiculous and disrespectful light This is the consequence of your behavior and your belief. Oh, yeah it's your fault Republicans! Reports show this shooting may have been a show of violence against the government I think it's fair to call this event an act of domestic terrorism Had it been a Muslim person we would have rushed to do so because as an American citizen We are loathed to do so This my friends Is an unmistakable act Of domestic terrorism

1:37:12 Alright. Who are they terrorizing? The peoples, the peoples of the United States's Okay so now a lot of people swing into action this is uh... Now it gets interesting Ronan on MSNBC This is the Sinatra kid You're spending too much time watching this network but go on We're only developed country on earth where this happens and it happens now once a week And It's a one day story There's no place else like this The president is talking, of course about gun violence. He was speaking yesterday at a Tumblr Q&A same day that 14-year old freshman with semi automatic rifle shot and killed the student injured teacher at Reynolds High School in Oregon. One week after an 86 year old man killed one student wounded two others with shotgun Seattle Pacific University

1:38:10 And a little over two weeks after the mass shooting near UC Santa Barbara left six dead, four of them by shooting. According to the gun control organization Everytown.org there have been at least 74 school shootings since the 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School killed 20 children and 6 adults. By the way that number 74 has been debunked everywhere but it's... And while we're on the roll let's go to Democracy Now! and play the Oregon Obama clip and hear that number again Got it. Got a small o. Yeah, it's throwing me off the small O. It's not the only country that has... No no no you did you is this? That's Oregon Obama clip oh! It's okay because I well you have or I have the I have the clip okay from Democracy Now

1:39:03 I know, no i got the tumblr interview clip. This is different. Oregon shooting Obama expanded stutter? Well yeah, I have Oregon shooting Obamastammer. Obama Stammer?! Yeah play that Obamastammer! It's not the only country that has... And then we have expanded. This is the whole clip with all the stuttering. It's psychosis. All right, very cute! So here is and it's funny because it's exactly the same words and pretty much the same stammer

1:39:43 the Tumblr interview. So he was doing a Tumblr interview with a bunch of youngins and the Tumblr guy, David whoever that is With questions that were written down so no one in the audience is asking the questions And it's about these student loans which is a huge scam by itself Hey guess what instead of 10 years you get to pay it off in 20 years But you'll pay more money Kiss a scam of those highest order. Where's Elizabeth Warren now? Well, you'll be all over that when you watch so Of course someone writes in with the question coincidentally about what do you think about these shootings president were the only society we're the only developed country on earth where this happens it's a same words and it happens now once a week and It's a one-day story There's no place else like this

1:40:36 A couple of decades ago, Australia had a mass shooting similar to Columbine or Newtown. Okay I'm sorry that is bullcrap it was not at the school this was um very famous event known as the so famous that i can't find it in my show notes I think 38 people were killed, but this guy was running around for hours going to different places. It was not a school it was not children it wasn't bad but it was not like Columbine or Newtown sorry that is just not true and Australia just said well thats it

1:41:23 We're not doing, we're not seeing that again. That's not exactly what happened! It's not anything this is... it's classic propaganda. It's the Port Arthur massacre by the way 1996 Martin Bryant killed 35 people around Port Arthur and wounded 21 before being caught by police the next day following an overnight siege since then there's been all kinds of crap going on but then they did a big gun buyback So, you know it's just not the same. It's just not equatable and the Australian people didn't just say...in fact gun ownership has not really gone down if you look at the numbers. And it doesn't matter because this data—if someone is contrarian to your view about weapons and guns versus having them versus not having them—you don't even try to talk to them about it

1:42:21 It's it's pointless useless and it won't work, but the facts are that The only thing that diminished in Australia was suicide Less people committed suicide because they didn't have a gun around handy And yes I think you know less kids would kill themselves with a loaded weapon that they found and you know Carelessly left about but not necessarily less gun violence. There are still guns in Australia and basically imposed very severe, tough gun laws and they haven't had a mass shooting since. I mean our levels of gun violence are off the charts there's no advanced developed country on earth that would put up with this

1:43:10 And this is very interesting. This by the way, it's exactly the same wording he used on the clip that was shown on Democracy Now with all the stuttering! Yeah and... He was working and I was trying to memorize this before With the stuttering, that's when you hear him doing all that blah-blah-blah. In fact it's outrageous amount of stammering in that one regular Obama clip. I also find it interesting that he says this... We're the only country in the world! Yeah we're also the only country in the world uh.. That just killed 16 people with a fucking drone yesterday and in Waziristan

1:43:47 No one's, you know... Is that okay? Yeah the whole thing is his fault. He's the moral leader and he's killing Americans with drones He has this drone list. He's murdering people for all practical purposes Five servicemen And he's bitching about violence in the country Five servicemen were killed in Afghanistan this week apparently by friendly fire just to make it worse Not a word about that! So, you know let's just talk about risk and reality here and what this really means. This is really pushing fear into people...and of course it sucks! This is not good I mean I know I don't have to pull out the analogy how many people got maimed or killed on our roads in this week. I think more people were killed in traffic incidents You know we...this is nuts

1:44:46 And coming from the same guy who just killed 16 people. Militants by the way, and Taliban you know the guys who aren't really terrorists? So please, please don't insult me with this bullcrap! Now we have a different tradition No no it's not a tradition This made me mad. It's not a tradition! Apparently it did make you mad We have a different tra-DITION It's called, we have a different set up for our country it's called the Constitution. It's not a tradition. It's not like Christmas which is also being kicked out Tradition...we have a second amendment. We have historically I think if he'd say that and these are the uh this my first uh tradition

1:45:33 is my freedom of speech. My second tradition is my, uh... my tradition to bear arms Very very stupid coming from a constitutional lawyer! Uh... respected gun rights I respect gun rights Respect gun rights? It's not gun rights Do you- I mean this is blowing me away John This- Gun rights, traditions But the idea that for example we couldn't even get a background check bill in to make sure that if you're going to buy a weapon, you have to actually go through a fairly rigorous process so that we know who you are. So you can't just walk up to the store and buy a semi-automatic weapon... Which is—a revolver is a semi-automatic weapon I mean it's another weird thing It makes no sense!

1:46:28 Makes no sense. Now just to piss me off even more... Until there is a fundamental shift in public opinion in which people say, enough this is not acceptable this is not normal This isn't sort of the price we should be paying for our freedom that we can have respect for the second amendment and responsible gun owners and sportsmen Again respect for the second amendment Respect I think that's the way it is.

1:47:15 put some common sense rules in place that make a dent at least in what's happening and until that is not just the majority of you because that's already the majority view even the majority of gun owners believe that but until you hear the tumbler guy yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's right yeah yeah yeah that's right yeah yeah yeah yeah even the majority of gun owners believe that but until that's a view that people feel passionately about and are willing to go after folks who don't, you know vote in reflecting those values until that happens. Sadly not that much is going to change sadly. Okay so a lot of this is being driven by whether it's as Alex Jones would have you believe a false flag because of course one of these guys was at the Bundy ranch and all this stuff whatever

1:48:13 It's being politicized immediately by the mayors against guns, which is a pretty well-funded operation. They go to work immediately And my other favorite, the Southern Poverty Law Center. One of the best funded nonprofits in the universe. They have $250 million dollars in cash! We can't even get 25 people to help us do this show. $250 million dollars in cash and I'll kind of play this in reverse order they've hired Vianovo

1:48:55 this not the Southern Poverty Law Center, but the Mayors Against Guns. Vianovo is a PR agency who recently hired two years ago Andrew Mitchell. Andrew Mitchell worked for the Department of Justice and was very instrumental in getting Holder confirmed total Democrat on the inside shill And he's going out as some expert, not even being introduced as a PR spokesholder. Just a guy who gets a lower third is Andrew Mitchell from Viennova! Okay... and Andrea Mitchell I'm sorry I said it wrong it's Matthew Miller

1:49:44 I'm gonna say and i wrote it right down wrong here Matthew Miller from Vienno back up yeah so it's Matthew Miller from Villanova. I'm sorry okay, Matthew Miller the guy who got Holder done yes and he was with DOJ for a while. You have Mitchell in your hands because she talked to Andrea Mitchell my mistake okay yes thank you Andrea Mitchell is who interviewed him, but without any setup of he's a spokeshole. No no no. Oftentimes the flames are stoked by people with cynical motives who gin them up for votes for ratings and By the time law enforcement can get involved it's really too late either because there was no way to tell what they were going to do or in a case like Las Vegas It happens after they're already fatalities We certainly saw this all the way back with Waco and when Bill Clinton was president But to what extent this is a sensitive question

1:50:31 But I need to ask it, but to what extent was this... did this escalate because we have an African-American president? Because there were so many racist sentiments interwoven with the their Nazi sentiment? It's a very difficult question. It is hard to know anyone particular motives always, especially someone that carries out this kind of activity but the Southern Poverty Law Center you mentioned has tracked that these types and anti-government groups have risen 800 percent since Obama took office and if you look at some of the rhetoric on the right It's not all motivated by race. Bill Clinton dealt with some of the same stuff and he is obviously a white man from Arkansas, so it is not all race but for some people probably as well. Okay so we got the 800% in there, this is racial crime although I don't believe anyone was African American who was killed. And he specifically points out that the Southern Poverty Law Center tracking this 800% increase now I have pretty good memory

1:51:34 And I believe it was less than two months ago we had a clip from Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center, the $250 million in cash NGO non-profit thing. And he said something quite the opposite! Let's first talk about the analysis here that you've seen... Remember this is 2 months ago on this very show. ...in this reversal after and we've talked in the past it seemed year after year these numbers were ticking up after the election of the first black president That's true. They were growing based very largely on antipathy to Obama personally and to what he really represented, which was the demographic change that is going on in this country. The coming over the next 30 years loss of a white majority. That growth was absolutely spectacular for four years but I think what really happened in part was... And remember it dropped 19%.

1:52:32 When the radical right saw Obama re-elected, after so much effort on their part as well as other forces in the political arena to kind of dethrone Obama. At this point their reaction was one of real deflation and dejection they had done everything that could. They did not expect to see Obama re-elected and yet he was And at the same time, of course things like same-sex marriage are advancing very rapidly. And all that I think is really dismaying to these groups." In your report you identify what you say is quote patriot extremist groups How do you describe or define those groups that are on the decline though? So remember he had a report

1:53:14 that said that all of these patriot groups, hate groups, hate black groups they were on the decline. 19%. This is what him talking two months ago Now he's back with Brolf! With some new event and... I don't think he quite remembers his own report. So what do you make of this couple, Mark? Well they're quite something uh you know i think that they did or at least he did attend or was at the Bundy Ranch standoff and very much was a part of that movement The Patriot Movement The movement that thinks the federal government is up to no good This is so effed-up Nefariously plotting to force us into one world government and so on

1:53:58 Don't you dare talk about it because you're going to get arrested, son. You know one thing I don't think they were was white supremacists The swastika, I think almost certainly was meant to say the police are Nazis. This is exactly what the police chief said so this is amazing everyone has this similar analysis on the day of! When you look at their writings particularly his writings on Facebook he is on and on and on about police being fascists about them being Nazis and so on But aside from that, there's certainly nothing about the Jews or other kinds of white supremacist views. It's all about the government, about wanting to lay down his life for liberty just a day before the shooting began, his very last post

1:54:45 Which of course is proof that he wrote it. I mean, whenever it's on Facebook... Yeah thats proof! It's a fact! That was written by him there's no doubt about it. Words to the effect of A new day is dawning you know we can only hope that our sacrifices will be worth it. Is there some sort of pattern going on here? Or are these just random isolated events? Well, you know its hard to say what is isolated and what is part of a pattern One thing that I think is pretty clear Wolf uh..is that the Bundy standoff uh... in which the b l m and federal law enforcement back down on at the point of weapons you see where this is going to

1:55:21 You see what... I'm listening, keep it going. ...was seen as a massive victory by the Patriot movement. Victory! I think that very large numbers of people thousands perhaps tens of thousands or even more people saw what happened at the Bundy Ranch as a huge victory against the federal government and perhaps a kind of opening shot in the war that they all wish for and wait for with the government Okay apparently let me just get this straight These groups which are diminishing and which were completely demoralized, and we're down almost 20% because you know he got re-elected. We might as well give up now that they've been waiting for a war with the government And this is the beginning This is the shot! The opening salvo for the war by the Patriot movement Which by itself is I mean wow what a way to take a word away from you? You know

1:56:15 You can't be a patriot anymore. If you're a patriot, you're now a domestic terrorist." This is very concerning! You've been studying these kinds of hate crimes for a long time... Is there a rise in this anti-government violence that we are now seeing? Now wait a minute, we know that his report said just two months ago a decline of almost 20% across the board What will his answer be? Yeah, I think there is. I'm not sure if I can prove it statistically but since Obama... Oh! I think there is although I can't prove it statistically? How about your own report man?! Obama appeared on the scene in the fall of 2008 we've seen a very dramatic uptick in these kinds of things Is that amazing or what? The guy's lying about his own numbers His own numbers! You know he knows he'll get pulled back onto show again These guys gotta get a lot of profile to get that kind of money

1:57:11 And so he does what he's expected to do. This is common on these shows, you do what you're expected to do when you're the guest, uh...you know, to yak about stuff and that's what he did. He did what was expected to do. So Anderson contradicts everything else he said but so what? It is the way it goes! Well I can see the narrative being built and what I find interesting is—I didn't pull any clips for some obvious reasons but Both MSNBC and CNN were bringing up Alex Jones as the one-world government guy. And it's so obvious that they're all in this game together, you know? And we knew that going in! It was like of course they pulled clips of him yelling at Piers Morgan...it was like a perfect setup. Are we now supposed to be stupid that we don't understand how this is working?! I mean come on! It's borderline insulting.

1:58:07 It's well, it's not borderline. It is so then the last two clips is a shorty which of course brings us to another part of this So we have the we need to remove ammo The president said that up in his continuing clip there and the interview with tumblr Clearly people who think there's something up with the government they're trying to bring him into a one-world government Or the New World Order, I guess as our own politicians say. And of course there's the war on crazy you know it says you're just nuts. The man police say is responsible for last week's deadly shooting at SPU was charged today. Prosecutors will seek a life sentence for 26 year old Aaron Ybarra. Ybarra told police that he had stopped taking his medication for psychosis six months before the shooting because he quote wanted to feel his hate Okay! You better take your med slave! You gotta take him!

1:59:10 Because if you don't take your meds Anderson Cooper will show you what it's like to live with voices in your head. So I'm gonna put these earphones in and they're gonna try to do a series of tests Okay, so now hearing sort of whispers and voices in my head and the first test is some number puzzles You suck and they know it This is a whole piece Anderson Cooper is going to show what it's like to live with psychosis and he puts headphones on. This is a scientific test. They're talking to him? Yeah, they're saying that he sucks and apparently that's what his voices say you suck! And then he's asked to do some tasks like walk around on the street and do puzzles and fold paper

1:59:57 Well, he's got well. He's yes it and so we get a mix how do people walk around listening to music on their iPads all or I you know that funny you say that he brings this up right? Okay So I did this test for three minutes And I did not get a single one It's very hard to uh it's hard to concentrate when if it's like music or something where's an IFB for God's sake Just listen to it It's very hard to concentrate when, if it's like music or something constant it's easy but people talking to you is very difficult. Shut up! There's an IFB! Well for people who don't know what an IFB is that is the little earpiece where the producer is literally talking to him while he is talking and counting them down into commercials Right constantly It's a skill, handing questions all kinds of stuff happens And he's actually very good at this

2:00:59 Tom Brokaw is another guy. He is lying to the public when he says this is distracting him, he has trained not to be distracted by this sort of thing and he's saying that he's getting nothing right but also I like what they've made up it was like the voice in your head is apparently saying you suck! You're no good! Kill all humans Shut up shut up Back to the voices now, but it's her he is really distracting And by the way, shut up. It's a common thing that the producers yell in your ear. Yeah exactly shut up now Do not touch that stop

2:01:39 This is a brilliant piece. I could not make it... Well, it's in the show notes, there's link to the video. What are you looking at? And this is edited believe me. This is easy! You want to touch that? I can't do this but it just it's really hard too It's hard to focus when kind of people whispering to you and talking to you. He sounds like an IMB! But now he's on the street and there's whispering just come clear with echo Come here for help

2:02:20 Come here, Anderson. Kill Brolf! Kill Brolf! Hey... do you have yesterday's paper? He asked for yesterday's paper to prove that he is now insane from the voices Asked for yesterday's paper Yesterday's New York Times No? Okay I'll just get today's So he was gonna say yesterday It's incredibly distracting on the street to have somebody talking in your head and it makes you feel completely isolated from everyone else around you. You don't want to engage in conversation with other people,

2:03:02 Engage in conversation with a voice in your head because they're constantly really negative. How about audiobooks? People must be- must go on shooting rampages when they listen to audible! That shit should be outlawed! Talking to you and everything they're saying relates to things that you're actually doing, They're criticizing things you're doing it's like every somebody is... It's like if of course watching you Your mother hates you Anderson Commenting on what you're doing and you can't help but I literally find myself wanting to kind of respond to them. You'll always be second rate, Anderson! Wolf makes more money than you! Kind of tell them to be quiet and it's incredibly unpleasant this is a very very unpleasant experiment. Back up stand up now

2:03:49 This is crazy. And why does it have to be this kind of Long Island woman, you know? Stand up back up do this now! I'll cut you off! 20 30 40 stand up now! You're okay. It's okay Anderson. Pacify. And that just went on for hours and hours. I only clipped two minutes of it. Jeez, like five minutes of him walking around trying to fold paper Yeah, well anyway this is the same messaging we're gonna have to be stuck with this. Yeah I'm afraid so. You know there was something you mentioned in there that i want to talk about for a second because there's some other messaging going on and I couldn't figure out what it was and I didn't do any... It's okay to collect things John! Oh I've already known that So uh..you mentioned the Friendly Fire incident Yes? So I have a clip from PBS

2:04:52 I call it peculiar PBS and the PBS is lowercase, you can't miss it. What's the actual definition of that? Friendly fire means... No no but there's a word they use for it They do? There is? Yeah, ummm....I'll look it up Anyway, I was listening to this report and there was something very peculiar about this report. And it was a... There were somebody telling somebody something. I couldn't figure out what it was or why it was but I'm- But I'll explain it after we play this. I'm sorry which clip is it? This is the one that's got the PBS in lowercase

2:05:28 Afghan forces were carrying out a clearing operation in Zabul province, which is one of the more unsecure provinces in the country. And according to Afghan officials when the troops were on their way back to base from this operation they came under attack by Taliban militants at that point they called for air support and the air strike apparently hit friendly forces killing five US troops and one Afghan force. NATO and U.S officials have not officially confirmed that it was a friendly fire incident, they have indicated they're investigating that however Afghan officials said the air strike hit the friendly forces again killing five us in one afghan troop

2:06:12 So it's not confirmed, but it sounds like the evidence points to friendly fire. Is it known what type of aircraft? Reports are that it was a b1 bomber so this is not an Apache helicopter or gunship or something like that It's interesting because the reports from The Taliban I believe were that it was helicopter gunships That's why he's dispelling that but I don't know why there's some discrepancy. Well, here are a couple of things that were weird One, i've never heard them ever ask the question like that What was the aircraft? Yeah well thats because... I have never heard that That is because of the discrepancy So he responds with B1 bomber I didn't know there were b-1 bombers in that theater at all Maybe they're tons of them but I have no idea But a b-1 bombers not normally it seems to me the kind thing you'd call out

2:07:10 Because that's a big plane, you know. It's like kind of like bringing in a B-52 to just take out a couple rebels So that doesn't make any sense. I mean, if it does make more sense it would be a helicopter but what was the point of saying there was a B-1 bomber in the area? I don't know! I just thought it was out of the blue It was a question I've never heard asked before...B-1 bomber came in out of the blue and didn't know anything about that There's something weird about that particular little exchange and I just threw it out there I have no idea what it is maybe somebody can help us. So I'm trying to find..I know I had a story about this

2:07:46 which included, hold on one second... Which included the word that I'm also looking for. The friendly fire word. Hold on let me look it up here and uh... I do know that there's some discrepancy that the Afghani or whoever they were fighting was a Taliban? Who was it? That was unclear to me. Probably Taliban who else would it be yeah that they said, you know, helicopter gunships came in and killed their own guys. And then for some reason that's not the right answer and we have to say the B-1 bomber? I don't know! I do know that by coincidence Congress voted to retire what is called a warthog, the A10 which apparently is the most precise

2:08:42 aircraft is really, really good at doing this kind of stuff. So maybe that has something to do with it. And B-1 bombers like for carpet bombing Vietnam... Yes! You know? A B-1 bomber's a high flying... Yeah it doesn't seem like the kind of thing you'd engage for that so maybe it has to do with the A10 I think its called... No thats a possibility that actually might be it Which is wow, we could look at this. We killed our own men because we got these clunkers up here that don't have any accuracy and we're in a tight fight. We need accuracy and the B-1 bomber can't provide it but you know the warthog would have." Yeah! And I actually got a couple of notes from some of our military sources saying this is crazy. This thing is fantastic aircraft

2:09:33 and they're retiring the whole thing. So, and maybe that's because they want to you know...maybe they have to put in the B-1 although I don't know. The b-1 is not a new plane either No! But still again that would be politicizing something horrible dead boys and girls it makes me yeah it makes me nuts uh thank you very much here we go fratricide that's the word well fratricide is not the same as friendly fire Fratricide means you know, you kill your brother on purpose. I have it in a news report being used as fratricide It's the wrong word. Fratricide implies killing your brother

2:10:22 Purposeful it doesn't imply an accident friendly fire just generally means. Oh, I didn't mean to do it. It was either incompetence or whatever but you didn't go out to shoot the guy's not like fragging a guy Words matter CNN five American service members were killed in southern Afghanistan when a coalition jet called him to help ward off a Taliban attack Mistakenly bombed them. I'm looking for the word It said Francis hold on

2:11:01 Friendly fire from the air. Here we go The service members unit came in contact with enemy forces That's when the casualties occurred a US military official told CNN there is the possibility that fratricide may have been involved Well, then you know what that well that was on purpose They killed him on purpose just to get that warthog back in service I mean based on our thesis So that using fratricide in that sense means it's been telling the truth there. Wow, let me see Wall Street Journal has the same quote tragically There is a possibility that fratricide may have been involved That's f'd up

2:11:41 Let's take a look at their definition. Let's get this straight by pulling up our web browsers and looking up Fratricide. Holy moly, this is frightening when they say this stuff! Maybe they're just telling the absolute truth and people are going, oh whatever... Fratricide from the Latin words frater brother and cida killer A killing both from the sense of to kill cut down on the act of a person killing his or her own brother crime, here it is, here's a better one, Merriam-Webster. The crime of murdering your own brother or sister! Wow So fratricide means essentially mean which is... It's not a mistake, it's what? Murder. Murder is murder. Killing someone is different than murdering someone. Murder is

2:12:32 is the actual act of, you know the violent act of taking someone else's life on purpose. And there's no alternative definition! Here's the full definition in Merriam-Webster one that murders or kills his own brother sister an individual countryman having a relationship like that have a brother sister the active fratricide...the active fratricide is number two yeah now the crime of murdering your own brother sister Okay. Wow! Yeah, there you go another one of these fine analysis that we managed to do on this show that sometimes people appreciate Sometimes people appreciate it? I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab On NO AGENDA

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2:22:25 Our Grand Duke, who has all of the United States but who was... He started off as the Earl of Silicon Valley and worked his way up. Correct And of course we're very happy with Sir J.D.'s contribution to the program We really do appreciate all of it A quick email? Just a quickie here that came in this morning Yeah Play it I'll read it from Mark in Belgium. Hey Adam, I've listened to Noah Jenison's episode 1 and yes i've donated several times so this always gets my attention by the way! I've been very interested in hearing you talk about the slight form of Tourette that you have when you describe the symptoms I recognize a lot of that in my 10 year old son My simple question to you is how was Tourettes diagnosed with you and what do you recommend as a follow-up or follow through with our son?

2:23:25 We already contacted the doctor who wants to redirect us to a psychiatrist. Okay, yeah exactly this is and I think it's important to read this one on the air okay first of all Tourette's which comes in many forms and if he's just got ticks and stuff like that it's you know uh...it's not the yelling profanities It can go away. And even if he had the yelling profanities, there's nothing a psychiatrist can do about it? No! Do not... I mean, I'm not a doctor but i do not recommend going to a psychiatrist because the only thing that I believe they will do is say... Drug him. Yes drug him and that is not the solution in my case My advice is to be very open about

2:24:12 Not to hide it. Don't ignore it, talk to them about it... Try and make it as open as possible like if you had a limp. You know? Like don't pretend the person doesn't have a limp! And my experience is when it's unspoken you try to hide it and when you try to hide it becomes worse because of course you can't hide it I was, you know there was a special and it was on PBS or Nova or something on Tourette's. I would like to track it down because I think that it was very valuable to me

2:24:53 to watch it. And I think it was long too, like two hours and they talked about all these elements of Tourette's from the most mildest to the worst and I thought it was extremely valuable to watch this and allows me to spot people that have Tourette's and not think much about it Including that poor bastard that was thrown off the airplane, which I've talked about on the show before. And if you can get...I think if the family sat down and watched this documentary I think you'd come out of it just, everything would be cheap. Is this the one where that one kid had a very severe version that I never heard of before and he would actually become paralyzed enough to lay down but then he hit people in the face? Was that the one or was there... No, I don't remember that. I wouldn't have remembered that. But yeah, so a psychiatrist and psychologist are two different things but if you can talk to the kid about what's going on it'll make him feel comfortable

2:25:59 You know, and I really have no other way to say it than keep it out in the open. Don't hide it! And also let them know that it's interesting. This is the thing that I learned and several people told me you know...in my late teens early 20s, you know? It was kind of like one of these unspoken things and this person said to me, No, I see that you've got twitches and ticks but think it makes you look interesting And I always took that to heart because these were good-looking women. Believe it or not, you're interesting when you're not like everybody else and this is the same for versions of whatever they call the autism spectrum etc... Don't worry about it!

2:26:53 Seriously, I still to this day have it. It's gotten much better because i've become much calmer about it but I was on television with Tourette and uh...it was crazy! I-I was able to control it but man it took so much out of me and once I kind of let it go you know when Mick Jagger says to you, man you got a weird tick but its kinda funny within the English accent that's when your living yeah Mick Jagger thinks im interesting Name dropper. Yeah, all right You know don't don't sweat it but be very careful and be very wary of medication the only thing you know It helped me in some ways, you know when he's older if he wants to smoke some weed relax But I don't think is necessary. I think there's no drugging or anesthetizes as necessary just keep it open keep talking about it and This age it very often just goes away

2:27:52 Let me do the jobs karma John before we before you write jobs jobs Jobs and jobs let's go for a job Karma Yowza yowza I want to bring people at least up to speed on what's going on in Iraq There is a... just about the way, nobody's talking about this except they did bring it up on PBS and they had a very interesting person come on and describe what's going to go on. She is a woman called Kimberly Kagan and she heads something called The War Institute. Don't tell me she's not related to Robert and Fred? Not that I know of. I couldn't find their relationship but

2:28:35 Let's play, there are two clips I have. One of them is the Sunni move in Iraq and I want to play that first and then follow up with Kimberly Kagan who...there was a lot of material that they played but as far as i'm concerned Kagan has probably got the right take on this and this is something we have to expect to happen. But Maliki's Shiite-led government has largely failed in reconciling with Iraq's Sunni population. The Islamic State has taken advantage of the breach, the Sunni extremist group previously took over Fallujah and parts of Ramadi in western and central Iraq It is also a principal combatant in Syria civil war but has fought against other rebel groups as fiercely as many of its units have fought against

2:29:24 President Assad. The group's ambitions there have led to a rupture with al-Qaeda's core organization, which sides with the Syrian rebellion. The attack on Mosul now threatens to draw nearby Kurdish forces into the fighting as well. Emergency! Emergency! Dr. Dvorak? She is directly related her brother is Robert Kagan Okay, there we go. Victoria Newland's husband and of course Frederic Cagan is... So she's a neocon! And she, being a neocon would have us perspective on this because they're trying for this to happen or what they want the stuff to happen. This situation with what they call ISIS group or ISIL. Or ISIS that there's actually two... The last word is one of them starts with an S and one of them starts with L and you get to pick either one. They like to say Isis we like to say ISIL

2:30:24 And I think there's some symbolism to that, whatever. She is also a Yalie? Yeah no she is a hotshot. Oh crap! No she's married to Frederick Kagan. Fuck me! Okay. Oh my god! So she's in the thick of it. Yeah so to speak And so she's on here, she's a little weird. She's kind of like...she's like a giddy character. She's very strange but she outlines what I think is going on and it's not being discussed. There is an Emirate actually forming this ISIS group there are not a bunch of slouches they've actually formed in army It's not a terrorist operation They took parts of Syria and they're gonna take parts of Iraq

2:31:10 as she, as Sunnis. And I think what she describes here is exactly what's programmed and what's going to happen. And before I listen to this the ISIL, this just came in this morning have abducted these staff at...the Turkish staff in Mosul so they're...so this is an anti-Turkey outfit? Yeah! That would make sense because they are Sunnis you said? Yeah, okay. So Kimberly Kagan let me start with you the we know these insurgents have been creating havoc for some time launching attacks How important is this particular attack taking over the city of Mosul? This attack that the Islamic State of Iraq and Shom or the Levant has launched on Mosul is incredibly important because it is a

2:32:02 the beginning of a campaign and push beyond Mosul into the areas toward Baghdad that the Islamic State of Iraq wants to govern. It seeks to establish an emirate or state, and govern terrain inside of Iraq as well as governing the terrain inside Syria in Raqqa Where it has announced the beginning of its Emirate. I believe Mosul will be its new capital Mosul where they just Kidnapped the the Turkish embassy staff, right?

2:32:41 So something is up. Okay, so now she is from the FPI's, the Foreign Policy Institute which is what the Kagan are in now that their new... She is actually from something at the beginning of her thing they announced it she is actually the head of this other operation. She's the top dog at this research center. Let me take a look. Current position 8 battlefield circulation CENTCOM Wow! She was at CENTCOM? Yeah, she's a heavy-duty little girl. Yeah... doesn't serve in Kabul? She was with McChrystal? The Institute for the Study of War! Look up the Institute for the Study of War that's what she runs. Okay. She's part of the other things of course these guys are not one thing. Holy crap okay so let's look at this this is very interesting John I'm glad this is good So we have

2:33:36 So what happened is that this ISIL or whatever they call it, this is where the fighting from Syria moved over to eastern part which was really western Iraq and this is where this group has been hanging out and then moving up. They're collaborating with the Kurds and they're fighting with the Turks I mean... What does this look like to you? Especially when these people are interested in it I think it's the beginning of the end for the country known as Iraq, and it is going to be partitioned into a series of smaller states called Emirates. Very similar to the United Arab Emirates which is a series of states with kind of not an important oversight governing body because you know Dubai people do not necessarily have anyone tell them what to do

2:34:33 I think, and i think this is the first And whose idea this is, I'm not sure. Obviously the Kagan's would be involved or the neocons The idea is to create this emirate and then stabilize it show that this can be done and its going to trigger the same thing in Kurdistan area will form and thats why you have Turkey on your side because the Turks do not want that No! Because the Kurds want part of Turkey too And so you're going to see a lot of crap going on and this is just the beginning of it. It's not being well covered by any means, but it's going to... I mean, it's the only way that's gonna stabilize Iraq. Eventually it should because these little operations will be self-governing." I'm putting her wiki page into The Show Notes.

2:35:28 about the element, they mentioned some city in Syria that... Mosul. No, Mosul's in Iraq. Oh I'm sorry yeah what did she mention? There was a little city called Raq or something like some crazy little town and we may have to play that again or something because I wanted to know if it had anything do with any pipelines. Hold on a second. It was in the second clip Yeah, it was in the second. So Kimberly Kagan let me start with you as we know for some time launching attacks How important is this particular attack taking over the city of Mosul? This attack that the Islamic State of Iraq and Shom or the Levant has launched on Mosul is incredibly important because

2:36:17 the beginning of a campaign and push beyond Mosul into the areas toward Baghdad that the Islamic State of Iraq wants to govern. It seeks to establish an emirate or state, and govern terrain inside of Iraq as well as governing the terrain inside Syria in Raqqah." Raka. Yeah, this has got to be of course Hold on Raka we think it is r-a-k-a I don't know let's take a look at Syria or is it Syria? This is going to be the Islamic yeah our raqqa Oh, I have RAQ QAH which I think is probably well It could be either way. Okay, so let's do add the word pipeline and

2:37:08 That's how I do it. It's how I do it, people! Yeah there you go... It's the Kirkuk-Baniyas pipeline. Crude oil pipeline from the Kirkuk Oil Field in Iraq to the Syrian port. Uh yeah, I'd say that's pretty important so the question is yeah this is part of the whole Pipelineistan war man this is this is this is IT This is what Qatar does not want This is exactly the opposite. This is getting oil into the Mediterranean when really we want it to go through Turkey from Qatar or Qatar, however you want to pronounce it

2:38:00 Yeah, that's all that it's about. One of the things they kind of mentioned... You think these guys give a crap about religion? Screw that! Oil! One of this one of the things she mentioned was well if you're gonna start an emirate you want to have Emirates are known for having a lot of oil Yep So if you're gonna start one you grab these pipelines and you just start making money but one of the things she mentioned was that this group, ISIS or ISIL either one. I like ISIS is easier to say than ISIL One of the things that she mentioned was that they were fighting against Al Qaeda There were also one of the insurgent groups and one of the groups in Syria fighting But they were fighting again when they ran into other rebels They would take them on right as though they were the government

2:38:47 So they were not cooperating with whatever scheme was afoot that was set up by Qatar again and Turkey, and whoever else was supplying arms. They were a separate operation and they were not putting up with any of it. And this is going to be...this is going to be a big deal I don't see this falling apart It just is they got 15,000 soldiers already. The 10 bucks the Russians will be helping them? Oh yeah of course! And so this will be a very... This will be something that's going to blow up probably in a month or two when we finally get it through Yeah if you look at... So if you look at Araka If you look at the pipeline You see the pipeline goes from Araka West

2:39:34 Without even looking at the map, just guess which town it hits next. I don't know... It'll be Hamas? Aleppo! Aleppo right, that's the other town that... Right of course now these are all yeah this is all about well there's an interesting article this is from Al Jazeera when was this published so this thing begins in Kirkuk which will be in their territory too because they were moving she said from Mosul which is up north Near the Kurdish area. Mm-hmm or in the Kurdish area that Mosul down to Kirkuk is halfway to Baghdad and she mentioned that they were pushing forces toward Baghdad, but they probably weren't going to Take over Baghdad Okay So this this has everything to do This is this is thank you for finding this. This is truly what it's about so Turkey

2:40:32 is involved in this, Russia's involved in this. This is the $10 billion deal that was struck between Iran Iraq and Syria for the pipeline from east to west to get into the...from the South Pars fields Kirkuk into the port and then of course the market is Europe through the Mediterranean you know either ship or whatever So of course, you know we start to rubble-ize Syria. But that's kind of failed! This is where I think it's interesting to see that okay now they're shoring up the next part of the pipeline...that's the way i see it and You gotta wonder who was playing where because this is really an alternative for not just Iran but for Russia who got

2:41:21 clinched off in Ukraine. Right, so Russia could be more involved in this than we know they could be behind it for all yeah Yeah Of course their although I would think that Kagan with her connections She would have said something if that was the case I mean It doesn't mean that they're not sympathizers and somehow shape or whatever something to do But seems to me she would have said something the question but the question is whose side is she on? I'm not so sure that the Kagan's and the neocons are on America side. I don't think they give a crap." Yeah, you might be right she would then just ignore that or ignore putting that forward because for origin it sounded like... But how beautiful is it? You've got one Kagan in and covering uh the pipeline from Iran-Iraq Syria pipeline. You've got another Kagan—I'm sorry Noodleman

2:42:31 blowing up the pipeline in Ukraine. It's, you know... The family is doing some business here! How crazy is that? One little thing- Arrest these people!! They must be stopped!!! Yeah they should be. These people are horrible look at the Kagan family. The brothers, the spouses must be stopped at all costs. They're on a roll. The Kagans we need to jingle for the Kagans The Koch brothers are nothing compared to these people. Well, the Koch brothers are just money bags that's all they're just you know financiers they don't have anything to do with anything uh so I'm also going to keep track of what's going on or they'd be listening to our show um yeah i'm also putting this in the show notes well those guys are old school one day someone will wake up and be like hey wait a minute people aren't listening to NPR anymore listen to all these other things

2:43:31 Very cool. Yeah Institute for War, I'm looking at that and what does she have on it? It's not the Institute FOR war Although it should be named that. Sorry yeah, it's funny It's the Institute for The Study of War but yes you might as well just call it that And what does she have right up front? Yeah ISIS there you go The ISIS battle plan okay so she...it sounds like she's on the Isis side like she's in that camp Well, the way she sounds when you hear her is just very matter-of-fact about Mosul being the new capital of this emirate. And I also think it's interesting that they call it an emirate rather than a caliphate or a splinter... What would you call when you take off a chunk of the country? It's called some partitioning or any these other terms. I never heard anyone say this

2:44:25 Just use the emirate word for this sort of thing and I'm thinking it's genius. Dr Kimberly, I'm reading from her website... This is by the way ladies and gentlemen this is I think the only program in the world that can do this just throw everything off and let's do some analysis right here you're witnessing it as we go Dr. Kimberly Kagan founded ISW, the Institute for War as I call it in May 2007 as US forces undertook a daring new counterinsurgency strategy to reverse the grim situation on the ground in Iraq. Frustrated with the prevailing lack of accurate information documenting developments on the ground in Iraq and the detrimental effect of biased reporting on policymakers

2:45:10 Dr. Kagan established ISW to provide real-time independent and open source analysis of ongoing military operations and insurgent attacks in Iraq General Jack Keane, U.S Army retired the chairman of ISW's board also played a central role in developing the intellectual foundation for this change of strategy in Iraq And supported the formation of the Institute in 2007 So what does this tell you? Well, it tells you that this is very much like one of those Rubicon operations by the way. But they were essentially developing policy to continue the rubilization process. I mean what are you reading into it? Well this is what... So it can only be a couple things. First maybe she's on our side, maybe she's on the Russian side for all I know but it doesn't seem that way if you keep in the family where we want to rubilize and create more war

2:46:08 We've got...I would think that she wants to stop this pipeline and that therefore she's reporting on it trying to get some traction and get some action going. You know, of course we're now I guess officially out of Iraq. Oh that's an interesting theory! If she wants to get this piece rubble-ized Failed in Syria, you know Syria. Well it's rubble eyes but it's not like well yeah go ahead Well, it's possible that these guys are you know? We had to do a little more research into this Isis Yeah And I think once we do that will come to us It's possible that they want to get these guys to take if these guys take over part of Syria because I don't think Assad wants to give up piece of his country

2:46:57 And I don't think the Turks want to see the Kurds get involved in creating their little country themselves, which they'll take a chunk out of Turkey. They don't like this idea." So there's something about taking a chunk out of Syria that's the giveaway that kind of says this is not something the Russians would agree to Because the Russians are all in on Syria and they'd have to be all in on not letting Syria give away a chunk of its own country. Now it could be this, so it could be an attempt to stop that pipeline but then they're not in with Turkey though and Turkey's one who would be going up their way. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

2:47:45 That's the real dispute of Syria, to not have the Russian-Iranian pipeline running only to have the You know the could the US coalition I guess Qatari pipeline going up and that is that should be replacing Gazprom coming through Ukraine into Turkey so turkey turkey is screwed no matter what believe me. Okay here we go They got a problem Here's a headline they are 1.7 million dollars in income this this group of Miss Kimberly Kagan I'll see if i go ahead you talk while i'm looking at their nine. I was gonna say here's a report uh Qatar and Saudi Arabia reportedly fundering and funding and sponsoring ISIS there you go so that is a thwarting of the Iraq or the Iran-Iraq Syria pipeline stopping it right there stopping it so screw Aleppo let's just cut it off earlier in the chunk, in the process

2:48:45 Fallujah Mosul now Tikrit is under control of ISIS. It's the most serious threat that Prime Minister Maliki, you know there's an L malaki, Maliki, Malaky, the Iraqi guy has faced since the worst days of the Iraq war The nightmare scenario for the US troop pullout that would leave the government vulnerable to takeover by extremists now appears to be coming true Wow. Iraq has turned to the US for more aid, but the 20 billion Washington has already poured into training and equipping the security forces doesn't seem to have accomplished much. You know what? The fallacy of all of this is that if someone explained to the people of the world that fossil fuel

2:49:30 Fossil fuels such as oil and gas are the entire reason for destruction, despair death, destruction war rubbleization. People would be on wind power and solar power in a heartbeat! Instead of this bullcrap climate change. Using climate change to like sway them, how sad is that? And that petroleum economy we it's so deep into it I don't think we...I don't think its non-trivial to get out. That's the reason well yes because it's so I mean were are so deep but the joke of it is the same people who are saying oh climate change we got a get off they're not true they're not truthful there dishonest

2:50:17 It's like, hey you go over here. You play with your little solar cell or whatever Meanwhile we know what you really need... ...You can't live without our fossil fuels and we're gonna kill a whole bunch of brown people who live in sandy regions to make sure it's our oil and not Putin's oil! Yeah, Putin is making too much money And then they took over gas prom We can't have that It's just oh man, but you know so the people who heard this show congratulations You are now enlightened on what's really going on That was great John. I can't believe I missed a Kagan. I thought I'd gotten them all Who knows there may be more let me see is there more Kagans? No There's probably a bunch and everybody if he's tracked them all down we find all kinds of good stories They're all Yalies though that's for sure

2:51:11 Yeah, yeah. And that's where Kerry comes from and where Bush comes from with their secret societies There's also that war you know Yale versus the Harvards and there's a lot of weird stuff in the world anyway I think The good news is We break it down for you You feel much better? I just have one more topic just did that I got to get into All right, I want to say at the end of the show can you play the extended stutter clip just one more time? I'd be more than happy too. In fact i'm going to line it up right now You can play that at the end Yeah no, I will, of course Common Core Very interesting what's happening I don't know if it's going to make a dent or not but A number of people in the media are starting to catch on to The scam That is common core

2:52:11 There's actually a very good piece from PandoDaily, who revealed that the Gates Foundation financed specifically PBS educational programming which promoted the interests of Microsoft in conjunction with Common Core. Which is pretty big. Pearson it is now being recognized and analyzed and written about...the Pearson of course is THE educational publisher of the world, British company. What do they have like 80% of all educational publications? They bought every company they could and now they kind of are essentially a monopoly So the players are Pearson and if you've listened to any reports about it You might have caught something on NPR probably that all this material has to be new material for Common Core Everyone has to get new textbooks And of course there aren't really books anymore

2:53:14 They fit on your tablet, which is obviously meant to be manufactured by Dell as far as I can tell and run on Microsoft platform. And this is being written about as well. Oklahoma has withdrawn from the Common Core standard South Carolina has withdrawn from the Common Core standards A very good rundown in the show notes under common core about Gene Wilhoyt who set this up with Bill Gates and who kind of immediately retired. He's actually now consulting at the University of Kentucky, University of Kentucky College of Education but he and Bill Gates set all of this up and it was actually Gene Wilhote who pitched this to Gates there is a great back story about that. He said hey Ben you got to do this education thing Now The Washington Post

2:54:17 Now, by the way just to interrupt. I have seen Gates confronted about this and various kind of moments where there's being interviewed and he is completely baffled by it that there's a controversy. I have three clips from The Washington Post now they did a very good expose I think about the Common Core and the Gates Foundation's involvement it's a good read From that comes another article. It says time for Congress to investigate the Bill Gates coup You know, so there's a little bit of noise and I agree with you as well as I said before Bill Gates he believes all this He really I think he really believes he's doing good that he really believes this is the way to go But it is so corrupt and yeah, you're right. I think he's baffled So here is

2:55:09 Unfortunately, the Washington Post only did the answers and didn't have the... they put the questions kind of on a lower third which is weird or in mid-screen. Question one for Bill Gates does he have too much influence now? over the K-12, over the educational system because of his involvement and his funding direct funding of Common Core. We fund people to look into things we don't fund people to say okay will pay you this if you say like The Common Core. We've never done anything like that. We do evaluations Let me just stop well if those things go well which some do some do not then we create more options but

2:55:51 You know, our voice is not there when the final choice of what to scale up your money is. That's a governor or superintendent or school board who decides all those things I don't know if he doesn't read Or if he doesn't look at where his money goes So he says in the beginning here We fund people to look into things we don't fund people to say okay? We'll pay you this if you say like the Common Core. We've never done anything like that. Oh, except for... hmmm let me see The Common Core Communications Collaborative which you pumped $6 million into to communicate the Common Core! Yes of course you fund people to promote it That's a lie Lie number one Number two Wait what? You didn't like that? Mm-hmm Yeah huh Ummmm Let's say yes

2:56:45 This is the main question. Is he doing this for his own financial gain? You know, for... I think he's still on a little bit of that Microsoft company. I've heard that yeah! He might own a little bit of that and maybe owns some stock in some other things it might benefit you don't really know i mean yeah he owned stock in the corrections corporation of america you know so these willing to bet on anything hope I can make this clear I believe in the common core because its substance and what it will do to improve education And that's the only reason I believe in the Common Core. And I have no, you know... This is giving money away." Now did you hear him correct himself? He wanted to say he had no financial gain or whatever he was going to say and he steers away from the direct lie of I'm not going to benefit from this. The only reason I believe in the Common Core and I have no, you know.. This is giving money away

2:57:46 I wonder what he was going to say, John. What do you think he was going to say? Yeah! He's gonna lie. It has nothing to do with me. I'm not gonna make any money from this deal This is giving money away Giving money away... This doesn't give money away by the way Oh? What does it do? He gives money with strings attached. You gotta do something, he's not giving just giving money away Hey what are you here? Here take a few bills He doesn't do that I think his total bill so far is like 250 million dollars in the common core That's a lot of Benjamin's boy Money away This is philanthropy this is trying to make sure students have the kind of opportunity I had Wasn't it dropout?

2:58:35 Yeah, he dropped out of Harvard. Great opportunity! What is that supposed to mean? Hold on 12 more seconds... There is nothing and it's so almost outrageous to say otherwise in my view. In your view of the world Bill not a good answer not well done but you're right he's baffled what people think I'm bad what Well, then the... I'm giving. That's why he used a phrase, I'm giving money away! Yeah shut up i'm getting money away. People, I am giving money away what how is that bad? Yeah well why don't you just throw it here just fly over and throw it down on Travis Heights. I'd be very happy

2:59:25 Yeah, no he sees it. That's what he sees He actually sees himself as this great benefactor who could do no wrong of course and he is giving money away How can you be a bad person? He is just giving it away There is no...He is just throwing it away Well, how am I a bad person for doing that? It's philanthropy. He says that too he mentions philanthropy Yeah But then again it's philanthropy for Common Core You know it says there's not straight philanthropy where you give the money let somebody else spend it any way they want You're directing this money Have you seen direct funding have you seen the teaching channel no which is another one of the Bill Gates funded promotional arms of common core teaching channel org

3:00:07 This also runs on local television stations, but of course I think the web is more interesting. It's just filled with videos about the Common Core and about how it's supposed to work and it's for teachers... Somebody sent us a video of how to multiply 11 times 23 that was like, what are you kidding? You can do that in your head. 11 times anything if you can't make that multiplication in your head then you're an idiot but there was like this convoluted boxes and boxes then you're supposed to do this and use subtract one from eleven so it's ten well I don't know why didn't you do this I don't know I don't know if I have that I don't think I received that but I do have

3:00:53 Let me see, what is this? Oh I'd have to do it on the other computer. Fraction manipulatives... What the hell is that?! You know, I should prepare that better! I'll look into some of these crazy teaching channel videos. Yeah find some of these whack job ones and we'll just run those. A lot of money going into that a lot. I'm glad to see some people waking up to this. And Washington Post is nice and here's the final one because of course We all want to know Well, are your own kids in Common Core? That's the question. It's a good question is it not? I'd say it's the top question Yes! I expect my kids to know a super set of the Common Core standards Okay so the answer is actually no The school that his kids go to are private schools that do not adhere to Common Core standards I have the links in the show notes The answer is NO

3:01:54 But he says, yes I expect them to have a superset of the Common Core. What the hell is that? A superset! Can my kids get the superset Bill or is that only for your kids what does that mean? Yes, I expect my kids to know a superset of the Common Core standards at every single grade involved. I expect them to have the reading skills Above what the reading and writing skills are in the common core standards, so I don't see you know Who would not want that? What to be better than Common Core. He just said his kids will be better than Common Core Super set yeah well here we go this man's a bit weird in it Yeah, he's a piece of these and is a menace he also needs a menace the education he needs to be stopped He's a menace to a lot of things

3:02:54 But did you read that Washington Post article? Can you know okay, I will yeah It's really quite excellent. I can't imagine the kind of little dinner tete-a-tetes these people have was they They feel that they're above everyone else I have some thoughts on this by the way and i'll talk about in the next show or can You give us a little where I believe it lift lift up a little bit Yeah, I can play a clip and this will be the teaser. And this is like... Think about it! I was thinking about video games and all there you know people think they're teaching kids violence. I think those video games are dangerous now to come to this conclusion. And i think so because not because of the violence or any of that or even their gameplay but if the propaganda that has pushed through the public via the games major moments

3:03:46 propaganda. And I think that we're going to elect a female president, and I think it'll have to do with the princesses' powers that Nintendo has in their new games? I watched the Nintendo press conference at E3... Wait wait wait wait you mean kids are being indoctrinated to have a female president through Nintendo and the princess's powers?! But just I just saying this is it. This is a world you you you Absorb yourself into and you will play this princess clip Princess powers Nintendo archive, okie-dokie Have you forgotten that time we fought each other

3:04:26 Yeah, sure. But that was when the Chaoskin had you under my control! Well anything an Angel can do a Goddess can do better Perhaps you'd like to see some of the powers I once used to protect you Lights Explosive length Rocket jump Reflect Jump Counter Superspeed Angelic missile Celestial fireworks Light waves Black hole Mega laser Wow, this is all Japanese propaganda

3:05:24 Now the Japanese and their gameplay is a very interesting, I think it has sociological effects on the American public. I think that the vision we have right now with the Democrats and Republicans is part of this And its getting worse The way they're showing there's no agreements on anything You listen to MSNBC and these guys go on Everything's the Republican fault Even when you had Amy Goodman talking about the Bergdahl thing, she said the Republicans. She said oh the Republicans objected there's a lot of people that didn't like this Bergdahl deal they were Republicans and Democrats right but you start looking at some of the stuff that they propagandize you with for example this new game coming out and I only wrote this down from the subtitles of the game because it hasn't been released for the American public yet Xenoblade Chronicles

3:06:11 I mean, it's called the duty of some... Duty of growth is the main term they keep using. And let me just... This is a little dialogue that went on. Oh! A vessel with which to meet our overlord has come to me." So we have this structure that is being foisted upon us. This overlord princess princes and all the rest of it is bullcrap. By the way, the princess throws a black hole which is kind of frightening Yes, would be Hillary. We lost the Earth and we've treated... I'm sorry and we've traveled so far to reach this planet will wipe you out that is the duty of growth Wow! So that was sentence got my attention will wipe you out That is the duty of growth. We can never coexist with the likes of you. We will purge this cancer that.. we will purge this cancer

3:07:12 That is the destiny of growth. I mean this sort of thing, being pumped into all the children into the world is a mindset that I think it's dangerous and what you're saying is that this can be triggered? I think that there's a, this has been going on for awhile and we've always been looking at the wrong thing. It's a don't look over here moment. We look at the violence in these games and we say oh my God is all this violence? That's what's accounting for these shootings and all the rest of it but we don't look at the messaging and there is nothing but propagandistic royalty messaging you versus us messaging. You can't agree with, you know, you have to be lockstep one side or the other your enemy

3:07:56 You know, you're either our friend or enemy and you're seeing this mania kind of magnified in politics and everything else. And I believe it stems from this Japanese ideology which is being pumped through these games right into people's brains and you're not noticing it because the violent part is like helping you kind of bring this internally. I'm telling you this convinces us a huge problem. Well, I'm all-in on that The only thing is having been to Japan recently...I'm not seeing result of that in Japan. Yeah, because their culture and their language is eats this stuff up it's not even a problem but once it leaves that closed society and goes into foreign areas that have a different structure mainly because the language is so different yeah It doesn't work and its it starts to corrupt us I think we're being corrupted by Japanese games I like that thesis working on it

3:08:56 I'll have more to say. Listen to this... I just activated the children Have you ever seen that movie? No Halloween 3 no oh yeah, that's so cool The kids they see this commercial for silver shamrock and they get activated and they go nutso and kill everybody Wow, I hope somebody got that one. I'm like the only guy who's like yeah that was funny! That was really good all right perfect

3:09:34 I don't know if they got some of my weird material in the past. Well, I like the thesis and it would make sense although i'm not quite sure how well so Grand Theft Auto that's not a Japanese game that's an American game yeah? Yeah but there's no propaganda none of this propaganda is in Grand Theft Auto. It's just for violence. Well the only thing that's in Grand Theft Auto is there's a lot Sometimes little no agenda ish, but I would say more right spot of anti-gift There's actually more and those are all American themes Those are American themes that are in Grand Theft Auto. And I think that's a healthy game for that reason Yeah But these are these species on these games or alien to the American way of thinking Interesting and it's a slave mentality. Yes A total slave mentality surf surf them okay, so

3:10:28 If your kid is ticking about, be open about it and talk. And don't give any Japanese games to him! Screw that! That's just not okay we can have that... And definitely do not do the Anderson Pooper experiment with voices in your head Don't- Audible is dangerous people talking to you may want to do something horrible However, the voice in your head from the No Agenda show is good. You're good! You're awesome! You can do it! You can live through the bullcrap! Ignore your television Don't take your meds and tell your children to go outside and eat some dirt All right Jean-Jean Claude I am off to ham com

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