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00:00 Why would she kill him after the election? She needs to vote! Calling CQ on 12 meters, which is wide open in FEMA Region 6. KEMA Fox 5's Channeling November! In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where i am reading the tweets of Thomas Edison...I'm John C Dvorak. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Really what does Tom have to say? Uhh..."I failed my way to success". Okay alrighty then alrighty

00:46 Now I get everything all set here. Well, there we are Jean-Claude another show ready to go and You know, I'm so happy to see what happened in Turkey I actually have a background clip on that. Well let me play your background or clip and i'll tell you why i'm so happy yes, I see it here uh... I had a backgrounder too but we will play yours. Many twitter users in Turkey logging onto the social media website got this message It reads The protection measure has been taken for this website The state's telecommunications regulator TIB says its decision was based on four court orders against Twitter. The government says Twitter has ignored previous court orders to remove some web links the decision came just hours after Prime Minister Rajab Tayyip Erdogan warned to wipe out the social media website. Wipe it out!

01:44 Can you imagine there are international conspiracies? Twitter, Mwitter. We have a court order now! This was a common theme where in America we would say Twitter Schmidter or Schwitter In Turkey you say Twitter Mwitter I guess. Yeah, I found that to be quite interesting. We will wipe out all of these! The international community can say this and can say that...I don't care at all! Everyone will see how powerful the Republic of Turkey is! Power! The Deputy Prime Minister says the move was necessary. We took this decision as a last resort

02:20 These are not good things but if laws are violated by breaching private life, at that point we have to do something and act. Some people are still able to log on Twitter including President Abdullah Ghoul in some of his tweets he wrote only individual internet pages should be blocked if a court ruled that an individual's privacy had been violated I hope the current block would not last long is not going well with many here. It's definitely not a solution because that makes people more angry or politically active so I think it's not very smart reaction This was very interesting to me for number of reasons one, of course we've been tracking the Ottomania as we call it here on The No Agenda Show for several months now

03:12 But also the way this ban, this so-called ban or block was instituted was done by DNS. The Domain Name Service which some people understood and a lot of people didn't understand and there's some... I would you know if you think about it why would anybody care to understand? Well no.. I mean you me yeah people listen to the show probably well what's interesting is that throughout Istanbul and other places in Turkey Graffiti was being spray-painted with a different DNS IP address to use. Yeah, mostly the Google one That is the part that bothers me the most

03:53 And I'm seeing in the chat room right now people saying, oh you gotta do 8.8.8.8! This is very very bad Yeah it bothered me too So for those who haven't been following along with this conversation... ...I've been advocating for using the OpenNIC project which is a different type of... It's a DNS layer that replicates what is out there but cannot be hijacked by any government You could even run your own DNS on your laptop if you think about it. It's really not all that hard, but for the typical user yeah and a lot...and it's interesting John because this report that you had really parroted there is this other group that all of a sudden is in the news let me see..the name of this group is the hmm hold on a second

04:48 What is this? Well, it'll be announced in this. This is from the BBC and this is one of these NGOs that all of a sudden crops up and there's this really... well you'll hear this woman who's speaking I believe she's from Turkey which she certainly is the Turkish authority And she's very glib, very very glib about all this and ha ha stupid Turkey. Because of course we know that you know many countries certainly the United States use non-governmental organizations and social media networks like Twitter and Facebook to start crap and stir stuff up and this is definitely what happened in Egypt. Today Turkish users of Twitter including the country's president are flouting a government ban on the social network

05:32 Twitter's been blocked in Turkey since Thursday evening, shortly after the Prime Minister threatened to eradicate the platform following critical tweets about a major corruption scandal. For more I spoke with Emily Parker, Digital Diplomacy Advisor at the New America Foundation. The New America Foundation? The digital diplomacy advisor! This is not a good outfit. Here we go again with the... well I don't even know if they categorize as an NGO but probably Oh yeah, no it's an NGO! This is like the bane of our existence What was the name again? I'm looking for in the show notes New America Foundation Yeah look at them you should look them up It's pretty funny

06:15 The New America Foundation, you know. You'll see the board and you will recognize people. We will play the rest of this clip while we are looking that up. An own goal! Really? Here you go. Our funding of this New America Foundation in the million-dollar plus category, The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Eric and Wendy Schmidt and the U.S Department of State Hello people This is a shill from the United States government pretending to be someone on the scene with information. It seems to have completely backfired up until now, in fact after the Twitter ban there was a huge increase of usage... She can barely contain her glee!

07:06 And this is very significant that this is paid for. You should do that, you work on that lab! This woman is paid for indirectly by the US Department of State or directly by the US Department of State who I would like to point out gave a green card to the main opponent of the Prime Minister Erdogan. That would be Fethullah Gulen who was sitting in a compound in Pennsylvania and is largely responsible for a lot of this pushback including his support of the president of Turkey, Gulen. ...from people in Turkey so people found ways to get around the blockage as they do all over the world... Now listen how she says you can get around the blockage not at no point does she mention DNS In Turkey's case for example people used virtual private networks which is one way to get around a blocked site like Twitter or I heard that they were using Tor or Twitter the company was actually sending messages This is interesting

07:57 Here is the Department of State's Jill saying use Tor. How does that work? I don't know if you can use Twitter through Tor, maybe it may work perfectly but she's not giving the obvious solution which is changing your DNS IP address and not to Google But that is the obvious solution and she's not handing that one out, which I find well obviously suspicious. It absolutely shows how ineffective it is. There was evidence of people in the government using Twitter and the whole thing has actually become a bit of a farce Now, The White House and The State Department criticize this encroachment on free speech today but do you think Turkey cares at all?

08:51 No, I don't think they care and i don't think they've been very strategic or they wouldn't have done this in the first place but i think what their going to find is other autocratic governments have found that it just doesn't work. And infact people are now flaunting on twitter and getting angrier and what other governments have found is that when you block social media it makes people even more inclined to come to the streets which is exactly what the Turkish government does not want. And its exactly what the US State Department DOES WANT APPARENTLY! That's why your flaunting it! Has an autocratic government ever successfully banned Twitter? No, I mean not completely. They've definitely successfully blocked it but they have not been able to block it completely so yes it hasn't been successful take China for example. I find it sad that the BBC well of course is the government mouthpiece of the Gitmo Nation East

09:45 that they don't actually bring an expert in who explains how it works and how you can... My goodness, they had people literally spray painting alternative DNS IP addresses in graffiti. And passing out flyers on how to change your DNS. That is what really went on but of course the State Department shill here from The New America Foundation will not cop to that with your naval funded Tor network funded by the US government! Yeah let's use that Mm-hmm. I can't agree more yeah, I know I know it's like you know the whole thing is You know I got disappointed when I was listening to what so I turned on the Colbert report uh-huh and he had Ronan on oh this is Sinatra skid yes sinatra skid and when they didn't don't have it on this clip but when they brought sorry the winner of a Cronkite award

10:44 Yeah, they brought him out to the tune of Fly Me To The Moon or something like that. That's funny! I like that yeah There was no mention of it during the interview but i could tell that Colbert didn't really like this guy And he, but he dropped a couple of interesting bombs. I didn't know that Ronan, we're talking about Ronan Farrow the wunderkind at MSNBC who's winning all these awards for being on the air three days and This is worth listening to because there's a couple of things in there that are unique. Ball caps all day. I bet it is, but speak for all young people don't you think that if there's really gonna be a revolution of this country we can actually just be tweeting and blogging and phoning? That people actually have to get to the streets and throw bricks through windows? Seriously? Actually yes! It doesn't have to be some shattering of the system

11:38 and I hope my side wins as opposed to your side. But doesn't there have to be some sort of shadow? The Tea Party came close but they didn't get violent, as much as they were accused of it don't you think there has to be some sort of violent revolution in America for anything to get better? Sure just blood in the streets that's what my show is advocating for No but don't you think he's talking about having a different kind of television show You make a very important point look I was in charge of Arab Spring policy when I ran this office Wait wait wait... What?! Colbert picks up on this I hope. What? Yeah, I was in... Now Farrow worked in the State Department didn't he yeah yeah okay he said he was in charge of the Arab Spring policy it's all coming together now. Revolution in America for anything to get better. Blood in the streets that's what my show is advocating for

12:27 No, but don't you think that... Don't you think he's talking about having a different kind of television show? You make a very important point. Look I was in charge of Arab Spring policy when I ran this office at the Office of Global Youth Issues. You're responsible for the Arab Spring? Yes, I ran the Arab Spring. No, yeah, I ran the Office of Global Youth Issues at the State Department which was our sort of youth revolution think tank and policy fomenting shop I'm not saying everything we did work. Hold on, hold on... I can't Google fast enough office of global youth policy? Yeah and he says that he uses the word this is the Office for fomenting

13:05 Did you catch that? As opposed to fomenting? Fomenting, you know. Fomenting is stirring shit up isn't it? Yeah! Really let me hear that again wow wow I had forgotten about this kid's background and now i understand why MSNBC is you know he's creaming all over him It's obvious now they're like oh finally we got someone from the home office in Policy fermenting shop Policy fomenting shop. This guy is a spook! He was at the State Department which was our sort of youth revolution think tank and policy fomenting shop Wow, wow wow wow nice one John it's too early to give you clip of the day but phew

13:45 I'm not saying everything we did worked, but we created it partly because there was this story. Look, I mean there's Egypt which we failed at but we tried! Social media is a panacea and Twitter will save us and in some way Twitter or Facebook will obscure the fact that sometimes we as a country back to bad guys and sometimes people don't like us for that And there's a long history of being out-of-touch with my generation. I think Americans around the country feel it. I think people around the world feel it You are absolutely right that no amount of blogging or tweeting will supplant real action in the real world and it can't also cover up a lack of real policy action that caters to a generation. So I think these are all important tools to communicate but they're not a replacement. As you said, you finished high school at 15? Oh yes! Very good. College at 15, went off to law school 16, TV show 26

14:37 When is your midlife crisis? The 30s, the golden 30's my retirement era. Well Ronan thank you so much for joining us. graduated college from what was it 15 is that really true is that really is that really true yeah graduate I know people that have this sort of thing happened there are prime candidates for intelligence agent and he went to easy Yalie you went to Yale Law School hello skull and bones yeah but listen agency these kids had to do this and there's been a number of them and I knew one is MK ultra

15:17 Well, they're definitely spotted early because there's anti... They can't be socialized properly cause they're not with their peers. So they just kind of the stupid kid that happens to be smart and he is in your grade and you are 18 and he is 11 He's the chosen one John. He's the chosen one? He is! Listen to this! Antichrist for all ya know 2001-2009 it was UNICEF spokesperson for youth Advocate for children, Darfur region. Okay that's a part with Angelina Jolie another MKUltra. During this time he made joint trips to the Darfur region of Sudan with his mother and of course Mia who we know is... there's only one letter difference between Mia and Sia she's the UNICEF Goodwill Ambassador. Hi now I'm sorry. And then it was part of the genocide intervention network

16:11 During his time at Yale Law School, he interned at the law firm Davis Polk & Wardell. Is that you? I'm sorry! What is that?! It's my mic stand squeeze. Oh okay... In 2009, he joined the Obama administration with this appointment as Special Advisor for Humanitarian and NGO Affairs in the Office of Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan Part of a team of officials recruited by Richard Holbrook. There you go, wow! This kid is...you know...oh wow 2011 appointed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Special Advisor for Global Youth Issues Director of the State Department's Office of Global Youth Issues and what else did he do? Ah co-chaired the working group with senior USAID staff member David Barth

17:14 I had no idea that he had so much history. I didn't know about the graduating at 15, that's insane! Yeah from college? But why does he come across as so dumb on this show He actually comes across and if you notice him if you listen to this thing closely... ...He has picked up Rachel Maddow's cadence Oh yeah One of these Zelig-like guys coincidentally of course Woody Allen raised him Zelig like guy who is kind of a He's a Manchurian candidate is what he is. Yeah, but he becomes what... now he's the talk show host so he's got the Mad Al talk show on MSNBC So he has got the Mad Al cadence and if you read a lot of these self-help books by guys like Tony Robbins which I've read a lot of actually yes Really? Tony Robbins yeah! Got all his power talk tapes

18:15 Well he's uh... You have the power to change at this very moment John. All you have to do is just think, if your hurt If your sad all you have to do is think I'm not going to be that anymore and you're not! You have the power it is within you Yeah now I read a lot of that bullshit from that guy too I liked it, I liked it It was entertaining but one of things he talks about is essentially his basic thesis This why are still cranky? Im happy man One of the things he wants you to do is be a phony No, yes I'll tell you how where that comes from what part of this is thesis that exists right at the beginning says if you're with somebody and You go with their pace act like them. The you know wear the same color shirt they have be That's not true he's dead I can get your quote I can get your quoting page on Can I just say one thing? I believe you're talking about if you want you that's it replicating someone successful and be like them

19:11 not if you're with somebody. So you're right, that's what... I don't care whether you like to think Tony Robbins is the greatest thing since sliced bread or not No but i'm agreeing with you on one minor thing it's not if you want to be with someone as if you want to be successful like someone and your right thats what Ronan Farrow was doing with uh... Maddow yeah I'm agreeing with you And he anyways so Ronan maybe have been this way since a little kid because of your 11 years old and a senior in high school, number of things you're not getting laid. Everybody thinks you're an idiot or a jerk so they don't like you So far I'm batting 1,000 on me yes? And you weren't eleven! When it started then... All these things are just negative yeah and so you would adapt the policy

20:04 Those around you as best you can and you would be You could probably if you started at that early age because you had to survive. I think it would turn you into a very political person and now the problem he I think that he has and i don't want to it's not because im do you wanna doing a gay baiting is that because I think he was he's obviously gay and he was at the recent lesbian gave yeah and they had this this is how many men are nobody so he's not gonna discuss his sexual preferences yet and you don't have to and this I think is probably harmful to his

20:44 potential as a politician. Being gay? Although there are gay politicians, there's no doubt about it but he is uh... he's very we have to watch this guy I thought so when i first heard about him So I think you pointed out to me that there was the gay broadcasters ball or something yeah and Don Lemon did his selfie and this is now the big thing the celebrity selfie and we all cram in And Ronan was there. I'm thinking that he is the perfect politician for the multi-culti future Because this is it all LGBTQQIAAP That's exactly what we want in our future as a for politicians because you can't It's like being black or a woman you can't attack someone for anything because, oh clearly you hate gays

21:37 I think he's on the fast track. You might be right, you might be wrong on this. I'm looking at more of a traditional track but in a modern track you might be absolutely correct and he may be the missing link He maybe... Manchurian Kennedy by the way is not a bad analogy But he is definitely somebody to keep an eye on There isn't..you can't find a single fault with The Kid! I mean he's perfect You know, could you be any more American than Frank Sinatra's illegitimate child? It's got everything in it. You've got an Oscar-winning mom...

22:16 This is fantastic. You've got everything you need, a psycho mom. A psycho Oscar winning mom. Frank Sinatra... I mean that's- you've got the mob, you've got show business, you've got swagger and swath and all those groovy things. Hell! Yeah, I bet she can sing. And you've got Jersey blood in you. Hello? What more do you want this is great. And your gay president written all over it First gay president, well actually the second. Well yeah let me think 2016-20 he could run is it 2024 that could be his year? Well, here's what's going to happen. Hillary is going to win in 2016 unless all hell breaks loose and the Democrats get a hold of themselves and find somebody else to beat whoever the Republicans think they can run. Good luck with that! This guy goes... actually whether it was a Democrat or Republican this guy is going back to the White House He has but the path would be he has to do a senatorship somewhere

23:13 Yes, maybe you can get Massachusetts. How about that? Don't we own that somehow don't the Democrats own? Yeah, like this was Warren could be pulled out of that job the Native American Indian Let's pull the Native American that so that's show 2014 get a gay guy in there That's perfect well he's never again III would put this in the book I don't think he's ever gonna come out in our lifetime Mmm. I don't think it matters. No, I don't think it matters either but he's gonna be asexual for all we know Well that's part of the AAP in the LGBTQIAAP It's asexual is one of the letters so and that would be fine He could come out as all kinds maybe he's bisexual

24:05 I'm gonna have to start watching this show. What, the Colbert thing? No not Colbert! The Ronin Show on MSNBC. It's unwatchable because he is so used to taking direction that he has no real input So he's a machine. And I think if anything that's the thing that bothers me when i watch him, you see he's robotic and he's taking directions very good with the IFB, he is very good with talking to people but the topics are MSNBC stuff it's like okay no no... It's nothing like... He should go to CNN where I heard this beautiful ditty

24:45 A chilling new theory is emerging as investigators search the southern Indian Ocean right now. Could deadly battery fumes or an oxygen shortage have actually turned flight 370 into what some are calling a zombie plane? Our national correspondent Suzanne Malveaux is here in the Situation Room. What do you think of this and what are you finding out? You know Wolf, it sounds very ominous here but this is a theory that could explain why and how this plane went down. It is called The zombie plane scenario and it has happened before The zombie plane scenario, and they call me a conspiracy theorist really Well they're talking about the golfer remember his goal his golf stream they decompress some either Depressurized or something. They all died then the plane just ran out of gas

25:37 So let me see, Ronan Farrow's and MSNBC show off to a slow start. Let's look at the ratings and the MSNBC already has no ratings because clearly they're not talking about the zombie plane I mean that's if you want ratings you do that have you noticed that now so now we're into day 16? And this is great! Now the news networks are doing new stories about them doing the news stories of the plane And how well, you know we're really it's too much. You're just too much and we'll have an update on the plane right after this Yeah, Pharaoh they become self-absorbed MSNBC hosted here it is according to 34 thousand in the 18 to 49 demo all right that is clearly See hundred six thousand yeah now the demo if you don't even you're not even cracking a hundred thousand in the demo

26:30 This is not good. And he replaced Andrea Mitchell, the elitist and she had almost three times as much in the same time slot. She's got some worldly knowledge I mean this kid is a kid who...I'm telling you I would not...a kid graduates from high school at the age of 11 is not that kind of kid you're gonna go up to an ask him about advice for you It's a real pro- I think he has all kinds of, this is like a prodigy. There are guys who are like these piano players who were ridiculous when they're poor Like Jerry Lewis? Jerry Lewis? Jerry Lee Lewis? Jerry Lee Lewis? Never mind His interesting face though He clearly got Sinatra eyes and kind of Sinatra mouth actually He got Sinatra look and great blue eyes Yeah he does

27:25 Right. Well, alright... Uh well you're right we have to keep an eye on this guy because you know before you know it he will be hero to my friends Oh yeah! It's another installment of Dinner with the Obas That's right everybody We had, and I thought it was going to be the last dinner with the Obots. Uh oh! No no we have one more before the professor and Marianne leave for California. Oh right By the way you know of course we discussed whether they might ever want to hang out with me ever again after the last time we discussed them on this show And uh one of them was offended

28:02 Uh oh. Who was offended and why? The professor's wife was offended because I had said the Professor and Mary Ann, and she felt that she was at least as hot as ginger What?! Yeah You're talking about the Gilligan's Island message? Yes! I had called her then the Professor and Mary Ann Oh, the Professor and Mary Ann...that's funny But seriously, like, I was offended by that See what do you mean? Well, I think Ginger was hotter. Okay. Marianne was no slouch! That's what I said she was the smart one Yeah, ginger was you know Totally doable but dumb and Marianne was the perky one Anyway, she did that is of all the things we talked about That was that was the big offending move I made apparently

28:52 Very interesting though, John. I've learned yet a lot about... just for those of you who are new to the program these are my friends these are our friends Miss Mickey and mine and we have regular dinners in Austin they rotate it's three couples Soon to be two, unless we rotate out to California. If anybody wants a visual representation of this go see the Boonwell movie The Discreet Charm Of The Bourgeoisie What is that? I'm unfamiliar with that. It's a very famous movie by Louis Bunuel about these people who keep having dinner at each others houses until they finally machine gun each other, I believe it's how it ends. I thought you were going to recommend looking at the newsletter where you had a fantastic photo of an O-Bot. Oh yeah! I know, I found the O-Bot picture. That was a true O-Bot, that was really good

29:51 So and now for some reason Miss Mickey and I were half an hour early. This doesn't happen often that miss Mickey does something has an entry incorrect in her calendar so we show up at you know 635 thinking, you know We're fashion is a seven there's nothing more annoying to a host than that well Yes, all right half-hour late That's even worse right? So so we show up and I seen I see the face of like are we early say yeah Like oh no it's okay Of course its okay It's always okay. Which did not take into account an interruption of guests coming, showing up too early. So things were burning and everything was going wrong. Ruined a guy's timing! Totally! He literally had a Gantt chart with multiple timer alarms on his iPhone when to turn stuff... This is really not good No it's not It's not good

31:00 Now there was an additional guest at the table, a criminal defense lawyer from somewhere near in between Austin and Texas who was their friend. And I guess... Austin and where? In Houston. Okay. Austin-Houston which is you know this kind of no man's land he defends criminals which made the evening quite entertaining, which I will talk about a little bit later. So you know we're kind of having a nice time and you know where were all chatting and it was pork belly by the way was on the menu pork belly which is quite okay and then there was the thing that got kind of burned or didn't work out right was the cauliflower

31:46 It was a full cauliflower basted in some kind of mustard-like sauce and then put in the oven. Are you familiar with this dish? No, but I can imagine it. And then at a certain point the artist says well don't we have things to talk about?! She's a troublemaker. She's a big trouble maker! She's trying, she's going for the glass of wine in somebody's face kind of thing Let's hope that happens Yeah well it could have Well don't we have something to talk about? Let's see Adam what do you think about the airplane

32:25 Don't you have some conspiracies? I'm not kidding. And that's almost the tone of voice, there was a lot of... That's pretty insulting. Ray's well- When did she get so insulting? No she's always kind of been insulting it's that's okay that's who she is i don't mind but she's an artist if it's not about her which is what most artists are then we might as well be insulting someone else Okay I can't wait to the next dinner! I was surprised, because I met this woman. Yeah! I thought she was very pleasant She is pleasant it says nothing to do with... That's why i find it weird that she would be so overtly insulting You know the professor at one point said he I think he said something about crazy you know of course there's no crazy people present company excluded or something you know basically yeah calling me a crazy He literally called me crazy at the dinner

33:21 And what basis was this? Because they heard the last dinner at the Obots report and they need to get back at me somehow. Oh, I see what it is... This is just make goods Yes of course but you know I'm cool, I'm calm, I'm totally good with it in fact I love it! It's like rocket fuel. It's material. Cha-ching! Exactly and then they start to slip up Alright, I wrote...I was writing down notes during the dinner. I've never done this before Oh that is so...that is so...oh I don't know I literally went like hold on Did you lick the tip of the pen and then start writing? Yeah yeah I licked the tip alright Writing here hold on a second Just bring your reporter's notebook back that way it fits Let me put my green visor on Hold on a second

34:16 So there were a number of, so the plane I did my typical thing. I said look there's no evidence of this thing crashing so as far as i'm concerned it has not crashed You know, and if you think that the United States Pentagon does not know exactly where this thing is then you're foolish. Because I've seen the systems they know exactly where this is and these satellite images please how insulting is that? We can see the pimple on your nose from space! And we're being shown some debris with dimensions and it's all this... Google Earth is better than this

34:55 And so they're like, yeah but what do you think? Is it gonna be used as a bomb?! So I quickly steered away from it and actually went so fast to Ukraine. And again I kind of got him with that because here is... What! You're going tell me Putin's not a bad guy!? I said yes Not only does he hate gays He hates dogs and if you've seen the Paralympics he hates cripples So at this point they're like, what? Is it possible to think that maybe there's something behind all of this. Maybe we are

35:43 Maybe there's, you know people who have done this before. I don't know like Let me see the neocons who took us into Iraq Do you think maybe and of course? I'm giving them the names and giving them the connections. I'm saying look it's Victoria Noodleman And she's married to Kagan Roger Kagan his brother is Fred Kagan project for a new American century and now that then another kind of like sitting back a little bit in like They don't listen to the show. They don't listen, they do not... They listen at this part of the show and then they... Yeah, no, of course! They listen to me talking about them when they tune out. But a couple fun things happen because

36:26 At a certain point I'm like, you know this is being run by the State Department and this is well set up. Hillary set it all up and she's getting ready to win another thing they think I'm joking! I had to really explain to them that yes I hope Hillary wins because she's the only one uniquely qualified to run The Empire and I explained what The Empire is. I said, you know Kerry he's just... He's the Yale man. He's in there and he's dumb You can't say he's dumb! I said, yeah look at him. Look at his big watermelon head the guy is dumb as wood No no that's not true because you know you don't get to be chosen Secretary of State if your dumb I said oh then how come George Bush who was president is dumb according to you

37:12 That was a knockout punch, John. Yeah no that was the left hook right into the liver shot! Yes illegal liver shot and they're like well oh yeah okay now and then we're talking about you know about the economy which if you're an obot is great economy is great I said, what? The economy's not great. There are no jobs! What are you talking about?! Unemployment is down only a little bit...about six and half percent. I said yeah because people are not even looking for jobs anymore and they say oh there's plenty of jobs in North Dakota

37:55 I'm not kidding. There's plenty of jobs in North Dakota! This is really what was said and then i said do you understand that the numbers that are reported, they're skewed? What are you Jack Welch?! Yeah I'm on board with him because if you look at shadowstats.com oh some conspiracy site?? No they just include the U6 numbers which you may want to have a look at Oh, and it really started to go downhill from there. And now people are starting to speak loudly to me very much like Glenn Greenwald does you know when he did so I'm gonna be Glenn Greenwald and then you're going to start disagreeing with me or you're gonna start talking some sense So here I am and i'm talking about for instance about the middle class and uh You can jump in anytime and the middle class is really-I want to talk to you about this no

38:51 That's how it went and I noticed that but wow so middle class this was a very interesting topic as well. I said, you know We're all in the middle-class No, we're not Yeah, you are to the middle class is not defined by money, it's defined by either you're starving or you're pretty much a billionaire. And if you're not your middle class that's what... No! No-no-no-no-no! You don't understand middle class." I said well if you ask the secretary of the treasury in America they'll tell you that the middle class is not defined by income

39:30 It's defined by a number of factors and the whole reason for that is everyone wants to be in it, and of course the government wants you in it because that's where the taxes are. No no we're not... they would not accept middle class! No we're upper, upper. That's beneath them! Yes I said yeah and I think one said well we have a Porsche. I say yeah it's a Boxster believe me your middle-class this is unless you got a 911 you're not even close Even then? Unless you have a Ferrari. Even then, John! Come on... even then? So this leads into education Oh I got one If you have a Bugatti Veyron And it's paid off and it's not on a lease You can't lease them. You need to give 1.2 million dollars cash And your not living in it Not sleeping in it There is no place to lay down in that thing Alright

40:30 Okay, so this leads to education and of course well the problem with this country is education is atrocious! And I'm like uh okay yeah yeah well I probably said you know I don't think it's very good what's happening with this centrally managed education. Oh it's the states you know and Texas writes all the textbooks! I'm like alright stop hold on a second slow down slow down mister I'm moving Said do you know what common core is? No, I heard of it. But I don't know what is okay well essentially the whole idea is that the companies that the technology companies have finagled this this stem thing to create workers for their companies and And the answer I get back as well That's exactly what we need We need more workers in technology and knowledge economy This is a good thing. I said

41:33 Really? You just want to create robots? Well yeah, we need more. The answer was yes essentially Yes! We need this we need more knowledge workers To be in the knowledge business Because that's our future I said no Our future is the trillions of cubic zirconias Of oil and gas in Utah Our future is the gas we're going to be exporting all over the world That's our future we need workers in that And by the way, you're the callback. You missed no wait I didn't miss anything because I said you're an artist Why can't we have art and musicians to the best of the best programmers? I've ever hired That's actually better call back than when I had in mind why I said the best programmers i've ever hired were bassists bass players make great programmers

42:25 It's like writing. No, it's math. No programming code writing apps is not just math it is art and you can write code a hundred thousand different ways just like a book no no at the end of the day its ones and zeros No, I said that's not true. Well the apps I use are said no its interface design It's just this is real art But the underlying code that is art you can write you can write a program With 10,000 lines or 5,000 lines it can do the same thing? It's just how good of a writer You are it's not just math could not get this in John impossible We need stem stem

43:15 Alright, we're gonna really you know. We might as well just go back to command line because that's the only interface We're gonna have their works What was your callback on them? I called back was you said we need more of these and so what you were just advocating everyone going to North Dakota That's the oil business yeah, and I mean I kind of stayed away from that because That's just too argumentative, but I think your point about the art is really interesting for the simple reason that you have an artist there and kind of an artists-artisty artsy fartsy group. Well who by the way is a lead dress in the quantified self movement so she's kinda reverse artist where all art is data

43:59 And oh, if I had to have and now we have this ongoing bet which i already won last year. He said oh apple will have an eyewatch by christmas! And of course I said no they won't...and it wasn't..now it's like oh it's gonna happen eye watches coming by christmas!! No it's not going to happen. They lost his bet already? Yep no she doubled down double or nothing I said, it's not going to happen. Apple will not do an iWatch no matter... Yes everybody wants to track themselves data is the future of life Ray Kurzweil is my hero and you know and I'm all into like it's interesting sure certain things but no no I do not think that we need to be It's a very sad state of affairs when all we want is to train robots to create robot apps that tell us when to go to sleep

44:54 That's the future I see with my friends. So then... Yeah, it's interesting and I think these dinners are very worthwhile. I'm glad you talk about them. Incredibly worthwhile! And what I found surprising after the last report is that there was actually a moment where okay are you enjoying your meal because now we're gonna give Adam all our crazy? Okay bring it on that's fine But they're also mad. Because they don't listen to this show is why they're mad because they're so misunderstanding of what's really going on by the way, They don't watch television They don't read you know, they listen to NPR that I think that would be the extent of it Yeah That would put you in a one track and then oh and this was great And The Professor goes

45:46 No, so we're back on education and his wife says well you know we suck! Singapore China they're so much better at math We're 50 on the list! I'm like, well that's the OECD numbers and if you really look at the numbers You'll see... That's not-I'm not talking OECD numbers. Well yeah that's the headline your parroting because this is what i do for a living It's the OECD test and we're number fifty but the percentage is so minute Yeah it looks like were number fifty but its really only percentage point or so under China

46:24 and then I Google around and i find a report written by, I'll put it in the show notes for today. Written by two professors from Stanford the very school that professor is going to refuting this bullcrap OECD study that says America's dumb and we suck at math! And I say oh I hear there are some smart people at this school maybe you should read this report like Oh well yes that this had been... I haven't read the report recently. Okay, well then don't raise your voice at me please and you know then of course... See, I admire you for actually going through this process because I'm still young but also... And I won't have these dinners

47:16 I actually have dinners with guys that have to calm down. They're completely off the deep end, or the other way. He's calmed down! It's not that bad. Yeah we have nights here in Austin too. We should...we have that here um but this it no it's really good because what always happens and the next day I'll get an email hey you know I looked into that and now you were kind of right about that and then yeah so it's always the screaming in my face and then later and notice But it's okay. It's all right, it's all right. This is the truth you know we they came up with the term that group of people denialist yes oh yeah and it's really kind of a one of these things whatever calls you know that thesis that whatever you call somebody you are brought it up in the show what you say yourself when your cop to the health and so did the nihilists moniker

48:09 which came from an Obot type thinker, is pretty much describes these people. It's very interesting I find it fascinating but it's also kind of saddening. Yes it's saddening what's saddening to me The professor and Mary Ann leave for California, we'll have one probably once in one year. And then maybe they'll come back to Austin for a visit we will have another one and I lose program... The continuity is gone? Well the kind of show it's horrible obviously but for them i think i improve their lives And they're my friends, I like them. You know? So... I think you're taking too...I don't think you can. You either have the breakthrough and you change or it's just... No no that's never gonna happen. It's always what is it called when you go back downhills called uh... Failure! Well besides the failure once you become a...You go on the wagon and you don't drink anymore then you... Fall off the wagon? It's not backsliding. You fall off the wagon? Well there's a great word for this

49:14 Anyway, it's like recidivism. You go back to your old ways if you don't have the influence This is actually discussed in some detail by Jacques Ellul and a book I recommend everybody If you want to read a great book besides the fact that everything Ellul wrote is pretty decent E-L-L-U-L And the book is called Propaganda And it discusses the mechanism of propaganda and how it works. And it really only works, in other words when you get a whole set of structure of the way to think It has to be in a closed society You can't be, you know see other things when you start seeing other ways of thinking then your propaganda loses its effect and what you're doing is just the other way of thinking for the moment but once they go back into the closed system which is California and Stanford area. They are doomed! Yeah. They are right back to the old knee jerk whatever Right

50:09 Well that's sad because you know he's part of the education system and he's going to be teaching people. Although, he is a great teacher! I really like the professor because when you hit him with something that just...that is logic, that he can't turn left or right, he will say okay You know like the you can't call, you can say Kerry it can't be appointed Secretary of State if he's dumb and at the same time say George Bush was dumb. He just can't do that so that's what... And you're like Kirk with a computer! Tricking him! The holodeck just disappeared all of a sudden

50:51 It's kind of interesting to find out that both the professor and his college buddy, who was Bill the criminal defense lawyer. They'd both gone to Baylor which is Waco Texas right? And they were both grousing about well too bad we went to Baylor so what's wrong with Baylor? Well Southern Baptist crazy religious school Then I said, oh well this is why this is why you are the way you are. This is why you turn your science into religion This is how you were taught it didn't like that though with that didn't go over Well neck but that conversation stopped pretty quickly However Very interesting bill bill had listened to the show he came prepared and

51:38 Bill is the lawyer. Yeah, he's and and I said that bill tell me about you know You know, I defend sex sex offenders. I said oh you mean people who peed on the street? He said yep That would be one or the Romeo and Juliet, you know Yeah with you know The older guy younger girl, you know statutory rape type stuff And and I say well, yeah People may not say this to you often, but I think you're doing a great service. Someone has to do this." So I got on his good graces early Good and he said well, I mean I heard you guys talking about the privatized prisons the the correction Corporation of America. He says wait and he's you know, I read their Annual report is it's really hilarious to see how good business is and how? You know we need to keep running people through the prison system And he turned me on to

52:32 Oh man, that mic of yours. I'm sorry! I have to oil it. Don't you have WD-40 or something in the house? Well...I got some 3in1 at my work and he turned me on to something that we maybe talked about it He says do you think private prisons are bad? He says private probation services this is the bonanza. Yeah We had not talked about that right so private let me see I have the name of one of the companies and he deals with this all the time. They're all over, all over the country now so they go to the court and they say look court you fine this person a thousand bucks for driving with a suspended license we will take over this case for you as a private probation company it'll cost the court nothing! We will collect the money and the way they do it is... So here's an example

53:27 In addition to the fine that the court puts in, so let's say you know someone has to pay $1,000 and they can pay it off over the course of a year. They'll also pay forty dollars a month for the probation fee which is on top of your fine and of course you know a setup fee of thirty five dollars or whatever And if you don't pay on time Then they tell the judge and then you get a warrant for your arrest, and then they throw you in jail. It's debtor's prison! What a great business! It's fantastic! And it's everywhere...it's everywhere

54:08 They have a they have a douche bags that do this stuff They've taken over this privatization of the government services. They you know in San Francisco It's not the San Francisco City anymore that collects the fees for the parking tickets it's a private company Yeah, parking Company of America or some bull crap and so even at that if if you don't pay your tickets And then you go to court So you have your, and of course you get fines on top of fines. It could be thousands of dollars just going in and then you're guilty and then the judge says okay you're getting probation and your probation is for a year in that year you have to pay off every single month In addition to that you're going to pay the probation company it's kind of like the driving classes only if you miss a payment they arrest you and throw you into jail

55:03 Yeah. I don't understand how this has gotten this far the parking ticket thing which is a low-level annoyance compared to that you can't fight the parking ticket anymore no because of course got nothing to do with it, you go in there and say I have an issue here so what? Go talk to the bureaucrats about it we can't do anything for ya! What are the judges doing now what did they spend their time on? What does the justice system do with its money I don't know. And like you said, they aren't even hiring these guys are just putting the money in their pocket? This is terrible! Yeah so this yeah so they have uh they've got associations... They've got all kinds of stuff

55:48 We've got all kinds of amazing, and most of this is moving violations. You know so if you don't pay a traffic ticket and you don't go to court then in a lot of states automatically your license is suspended So then if you get caught you're driving without a license Now that's... now you're really screwed Anyway he does a lot of that too He says it's just insane And he was telling me that no, I do not want to take the bar. Do not want to become a lawyer Okay okay and then things really started to go downhill from there Yeah somehow HPV came up or you know? I didn't even get into this one where one of the ladies at the table said well You know I've uh...I was in my doctor and i don't have to do pap smears I don't have to do mammograms I've read all the research and we know what this is about

56:49 We talked about this just the other day. Yeah, we had one of our producers wrote us about it yeah and what is the reason for this? So that Obamacare doesn't have to pick up the bill. Right exactly kill people and I'm just like okay i'm not even gonna get into this i'm not going to say anything No that would have been an ugly muddy pit but then she said and by the way HPV that's just slut cancer And that and then this one of the one of the bot women, and that's when I went okay We're gonna go home now. I didn't say it like you know to make it so obvious But Mickey and I looked at each other like holy crap did she just say slut cancer? These are liberals yeah wow yeah It's a mixed bag out there yes. It is

57:41 Anyway, that would be my report. It's another installment of May 2nd we should have our final obot dinner now I will look forward to that it's a month away That'd be right by the way during one of the episodes Of course his mayday is made in a day for the six-week cycle to hit again So there'll be within a week of that and I received an email about that you see in fact I want to read verbatim Hey Adam, it's your Christian friend who is writing the crazy conspiracy Illuminati book. It's always an opener for you. Hope all is well with you! I was listening to this past Thursday show and something that perked my ear... John said the next six week cycle lands on May 1st, mayday! May first is the highest holy day of the illuminati

58:28 You can google that if you like, see for yourself. I don't know if the two dates converge meanings... converging means anything or if anything special will happen but I think it was interesting thought you might as well God bless Brad So that we could have a really super duper event where the FBI and the Illuminati collude Yes, it could be Sorry to mean something with that. Anyway I do want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C Dvorak Yeah And in the morning to you Adam curry also I want to say in the morning all the ships at sea and all the boots on the ground In the feet in the air who listen to this show and also the dames and knights out there indeed into our artists where? You can see all of the submissions and no agenda art generator comm Thank you very much Thorin for episode art 4 6 0 1

1:05:05 Did you notice that someone tweeted that PhD letter about Common Core and they put our names on it? And every day I get a thousand tweets of people just like... All kinds of weirdos showing up now. On my Twitter feed. What did we do that we didn't do? Well, we did nothing but because this was tweeted with our tweeter names on it... Oh cause' we have the- our tweet ads in there Yeah yeah And I didn't get any of those. There's all kinds of stuff like, well you guys should shutup! Block em'.

1:05:40 No, I'd like... No no that's what Twitter is for. Oh alright. I block people at the drop of a hat on Twitter Yeah but I... You stink blocked! Why do you want to be hassled on twitter? It's the time consumer as it is. I like to have my ear to the feeling of the people on the street John That is not the people in the street Let me finish this note. As for any Christian listeners who don't donate because Adam does have Tourette's and does on occasion swear or use the Lord's name in vain, I want to call them out as douchebags! Oh yeah absolutely!

1:06:19 They need to donate and stop being hypocritical. There's nothing more hypocritical than a Christian who falsely uses some lame excuse as swearing to not donate! Yes, thank you It has never stopped any Christian I know from going to the movie or theater watching a TV show just because they used the Lord's name in vain once in awhile The real reason they won't donate is because their cheap! Yes...they probably take money out of the little sock with a stick that comes by in church. I would like a douchebag call out for my friend Tim who has not donated. There you go! I would also like some farming karma, two to the head don't eat me Hillary George Clooney is a spy and a Putin Hold on a second

1:07:07 Don't eat me Hillary. Two to the head. Clooney is a spy and karma Putin and then Karma all right let's see if we can do this I don't do this for everybody this kind of stuff you know Eat Me Hillary Clinton George Clooney, George Clooney, George Clooney Is a Spy You've got karma. That was a 10! Nailed it! You nailed it, good work. You know what I'm surprised though? No one put in 4710 for a ringtone today. Yeah I know that's well we have to put in the newsletter remind him AGW Enterprises $333 and 33 cents an executive producer from Newton Massachusetts Is that like a global warming company AGW? I don't know. Anthropogenic Global Warming Enterprises Oh okay

1:13:50 That was kind of fun, Les. People are asking did you see our pictures with Miss Mickey and I on a big longhorn? With our cowboy hats? No! Yeah there was... we've been asked to attend the bandana ball You were sitting in the back of a steer? A Longhorn yeah. Mickey was. I was in front holding onto the horn not sitting on it And we were really excited this is like a bandana ball so its kinda like a charity thing going here in Austin And we'd been invited to go. It was really quite nice and it was very well done out on the wild onion ranch, but we had the hats, we had you know...the boots We had practiced our two-step and our Texas waltz and were like completely into it This is all great! Then they have The Spasmatics playing which is an 80's cover band Where do I get the 2 step?

1:14:48 It was very disappointing. You know, it was like...it was a real and we both were severely disappointed because we've been waiting to come out as it were with our dancing Yeah and do a two-step yeah well this was not the moment Texas two step so the president had another secret meeting in the Oval Office That's it? That was end of story Oh just because people are asking about the pictures. You didn't go to... Oh I didn't see the picture that's why i didn't, I would have probably asked okay go on yeah if you'll see it after the show Yeah so the president had a secret meeting with Zuckerberg and Schmidt and for some reason Reed of Netflix yeah this is-I'm really worried Reed of Netflix He hates things? Yeah what is he doing there why did what does he have to do with is he a member of the PRISM gang now too

1:15:40 I mean they probably are. Probably when you rent a movie from... Yeah, good point. He was there. You know movies from Netflix they're tracking what you what you're looking at and watching now and you're watching it when you pause it and analyze yeah Of course, this is a secret meeting so no details released as to exactly who was there or what it was about other than The big data project of the government everybody. I don't know if you received the email from the White House John Did you not get an email? I think so. I will only get stuff from Hillary now Oh No John Podesta who as you know he's the that what is the then the democracy outfit What is the come on? What's that? What's that?

1:16:25 What's that huge political action committee that everyone is always talking at? The Koch brothers. Not the Koch brothers, no! The democratic thing I'm gonna look it up American...the democrat future thing Come on God, I can't believe you don't off top of your head Okay now i am pissed off She should be I don't see any I can't that's how dude come on, dude You said do it twice today. Yeah well because you're duding you're making me dude you here, but Podesta here we go Center for American thank you 6 eaf I knew it was something like Center for American yeah Big Whopper everybody knows a big whopper so he is now a advisor to the president and as a part of this

1:17:16 the president had this meeting because of course we're in collusion with the tech companies and I'll just do a quick reminder, the tech companies cannot secure your information and encrypt it and only hand you the keys because that breaks their business model of reading your shit looking at your shit to throw ads in your face. So Podesta was at the meeting? Of course he was at the meeting! And then... so what were... I'm just trying to get mental image. We have these guys all in this meeting talking to each other and I'm assuming what they're doing is trying to cover their ass, and they're looking for the best way to do it that is high-end not Zuckerberg's just dreaming something up. So what they're looking for is a way to snooker the public not just the American public but the public at large

1:18:10 into thinking that somehow all is good. Well not just all is good, but the tech companies that they're protecting your freedoms Right. And they're protecting your privacy, which are not because it's their business model to not protect it and Zuckerberg never liked the idea by the way of protecting privacy he thought Facebook should be wide open so you could get dates. Yeah! He didn't want to keep any secrets The whole idea was exactly to know most about the babe you wanted to score with that was how the thing was set up yeah and that's what he thinks is best So I'll read from a news article here

1:18:46 and this is important for the timing, a week before a self-imposed deadline for a review of national security agency programs president Barack Obama sought Friday to assure leading internet and tech executives that his administration is committed to protecting people's privacy. You see this is how it's done it's like oh we're poor tech companies you, you, government breaking into our stuff? No they're not. You're giving it to them. CEOs from Facebook Google Netflix and others spent more than two hours with Obama in the Oval Office discussing their concerns about NSA spying programs which have drawn outrage from tech companies whose data have been scooped up by the government

1:19:33 This is from Fox by the way. Shame on you, Fox! Yeah we know this not to be true. Joining Obama and the CEOs were Obama's Commerce Secretary Homeland Security Advisor and Counselor John Podesta whom Obama has tasked with leading a review of privacy and big data And here's the video Hi I'm John Podesta counselor to President Obama and chair of the big data... CONSORT? Did he say a hooker?! I think he said, did he say consort? Hi. I'm John Podesta, counselor to president Obama... Counselor! Counselor not hooker. So I said consort. Hooker just says hi i'm john podesta hooker

1:20:21 You should give all his credits. I am John Podesta, uh, I set up the Center for American Progress liberal think tank in Washington and here in the White House. I'm also a professor of law at the Georgetown University Law, uh, Law University Center. I was co-chairman of the Obama transition project. I was from Chicago, Chicago Northwest side! I'm Greek American Hi, I'm John Podesta Councilor to President Obama and chair of the Big Data and Privacy Working Group. Chair of the big data and privacy working group, John? Big data! Big data is apparently a real thing now because The White House is all in on big data First it was cloud now its big data Let's listen here at The White House At The White House He's talking all kind secretive I'm here at The White House I snuck in bitches

1:21:10 Hi, I'm John Podesta. Counselor to President Obama and chair of the Big Data & Privacy Working Group here at the White House. At the White House! Look at my office it's in the White House...I mean the West Wing. On January 7th... He calls for the next room. What's that? He's putting on... He hits a strong putt and there it goes he missed the hole I gotta talk a little quietly here because the president's practicing his part next to it. Gotta be quiet! Hi, I'm John Pensta, counselor to President Obama and chair of the Big Data & Privacy Working Group here at The White House

1:21:50 On January 17th, President Obama spoke about the changes in technology that we use for national security and what it means to our privacy. As part of that speech the president recognized that technology is changing the relationship between citizens and privacy more generally than just in that national security context so... WHAT?! He said, now that was a... he realized I think that what he just said was total bullcrap. The relationship between citizens and privacy? I don't have a relationship with privacy! I have privacy! This is a little... There's something that this is interesting that he would put it to put it like that. Let's listen to that. This is no privacy as an entity Yeah like my relationship It's not a state, its' an entitity Or right how about a right

1:22:42 On May 15th, President Obama spoke about the changes in technology that we use for national security and what it means to our privacy. As part of that speech the president recognized that technology is changing the relationship between citizens and privacy more generally than just in a national security context. More generally than just in a national security context? A way to communicate with a citizenry Podesta. He asked that we conduct the 90 day review here at the White House of big data and privacy, how it affects the way we live, how we work and the way that big data is being used by universities, by private sector as well as by government We know this is a complicated issue technology's changing rapidly from sensors all around us to the ability

1:23:36 Sensors all around us? Does he know something I don't know? Sensors all around us. Technology is changing rapidly from sensors all around us to the ability of companies and government to analyze and look at vast volumes of data if you're watching this video, I know that that your interacting with technology... Hey John! He knows we're interacting with technology because we're watching this video all the time shopping online carrying a cell phone You visited you know, I'm sorry

1:24:15 I no longer carry a cell phone for exactly the reason of douchebags like you. You know, i know that-that you're interacting with technology all the time shopping online carrying a cell phone uh... you visited your doctor who's using electronic records so we'd like to hear from you on the question what are the technologies or uses of big data that you think are going to be the most transformative to the way you live and work Is there one technology in particular that gives you pause? I know this is a big topic, but we really would like to hear from you. So go to whitehouse dot gov slash big data and let us know what you think We'll be gathering a lot of different comments and you can expect to hear back from us as this process proceeds Thanks for taking the time to listen to this and I hope you'll go to their website Now

1:25:11 Wow. So what this means to me, if you go to whitehouse.gov slash big data which by the way no one can really explain what big data is other than a big collection of data? Yeah well essentially is going to happen here is that... Well we asked everybody! Oh yeah yeah that's the good old- That's the great bit. We asked them and nobody said they had any complaints about all this privacy stuff. Let's see WhiteHouse.gov slash BigData Data Okay, let's see. There's a there's a survey apparently John we may be like taking these surveys from time to time Oh my god have you seen this? Oh my goodness going there now the president looking all pensive This is The president is thinking about God he's thinking about your privacy, but that's Obama too He's clearly thinking about my privacy right there

1:26:09 I'm looking off into the sunset. We want to hear your opinion, okay? How much do you trust these institutions with your data commercial business none not at all only a little somewhat not at all academic or research institutions not at all professional practices legal or medical services I would say only a little. Intelligence agencies? There's no selection for that! Not at all, is that what you're choosing? Yeah not at all Law enforcement agencies? Not at all Government agencies like the Census Bureau or the Postal Service? I actually trust them a little bit. I'll give them a little yeah. I'm gonna give him somewhat Somewhat or only a little oh somewhat wow Oh you're going up State and local agencies

1:26:59 Uh, you know this depends on what age we're talking about. I'm gonna just say not at all. Not at all? Okay not at all How much do these types of data collection concern you video or audio... auto.. audio? What am i thinking? Audio data Not at all concerned, only a little concerned. Somewhat concerned... Very concerned! Yeah me too. Location data? Very concerned. Telecommunications data? Very concerned Online Data Profile Browsing History Content? Very Concerned How much do the following data practices concern you? Collection of Data? Very Concerned Correlation and or Sharing of Data? Uh very concerned

1:27:37 Storage and or security of data, very concerned. Transparency about the collection of data? Oh not concerned at all! Very concerned. Legal standards and oversight of the collection of data Wait a minute this one's a trick question. Yeah be careful. Oops legal standards... I'm very concerned about that yeah which technologies or uses of data are most transforming your day-to-day life now this is a fill it in question what do you put best podcasting in the universe Yeah, actually yeah no agenda show calm. No Agenda show that concerns me the most is there anything else you'd like to tell us about your thoughts on the issue? Yes Fuck off and die and read our privacy policy should we read that real quick let's see what happens Note we're updating the White House privacy policy oh my goodness Can you believe this

1:28:38 They're so concerned about privacy, but right on their privacy policy they say we're updating the White House privacy policy. The new policy will go into effect April 18th and can be seen here So what do I do? Do I agree with this one or with the new one I don't know, you don't agree with any of them it seems. Once your on the website you've agreed Let's look at the new one We're updating the policy here to see that existing policy here and go back No we don't want to go back Information received when provided by White House Gov How is this information used? Sharing of this information Data retention Security, let me try and look at that We take reasonable precautions whatever that means

1:29:18 So they collect information about your computer or mobile setup, type of web browser operating system screen resolution connection speed the pages you visit the internet URL that you connected to from our site. The amount of data transmitted ooh I don't want to overuse my allotment. We filled out this survey. This seems a pretty standard I don't see anything crazy here On Twitter, the White House automatically archives tweets from official White House accounts. The library... Why? This is redundant! Yeah I'm not quite sure. The Library of Congress is archiving all the tweets. Yeah. Why are they wasting our money?! I don't know but let's see if they share will they share any of our info... Ah screw it okay. I'll take out the fuck off and die maybe that's not a good thing to put in there No don't put anything else you'd like to tell us about. A big guy knocked on the door About your thoughts on the issue uh

1:30:13 Yes, I put not really Putin submit you know what you could also put legalized marijuana Too late. I already submitted all right let's see what do I get back? You get nothing back well That's lame you don't even They send me right back to the survey yeah Wow That's I mean hello web 101 yeah, and you know what 1993 calling we want our answers went right Yeah into the bit bucket. No one gives a crap about my answer Obviously Take a look at with the Google you can look at the or that Firefox You can look at them as a code to see if they actually save any of this stuff Oh, it's just a suede the dummies mmm

1:31:03 Interesting. I got an ask Adam today, but I was gonna continue on the Snowden thing But if you want to interrupt oh no we're gonna go back to snow Snowden well Well there's more on this this particular topic yeah, there's ask Adam has something to do with this Oh okay? Do I just play this now or what do I know no no no no setups needed it left and right You don't even know what I'm asking you. I have to ask you first Well, no, I don't but I have three asks Adam which is called who do you think this is? I want you to identify or try to guess who this person is Well should I first say, you know if you're gonna do this. No no no This is gonna be good. I need a jingle! I need to do my jingle Oh yeah? Like i can't do my jingle Yeah play the jingle whichever one you want to play But I don't know I can't even it's not even switching he's like I don't even have a jingle anymore What happened your jingle uh here's the jingle

1:31:59 That's short and sweet. I like it. You're gonna have to tell me if this guy, who do you think this guy is? Do you think he's a government guy? Do you think he's a private sector guy? NGO? whatever is he educated? Is this multiple choice do I have open-ended? I want you to hear the guy, he's an apologist that and i'll tell you where he spoke after you hear it. I should say amount of time and effort in order to ensure that we protect privacy and beyond that the privacy of citizens around the world. It's not just Americans you know several things come into play here first we're all on the same network my communications I'm a user or particular

1:32:46 internet email service that is the number one uh... email service of choice by terrorists around the world number one and so on they're right beside them in email space in the internet uh... and so we need to be able to pick out a part and find the information that's relevant I just want to point out that this is the connection he had to this conference. That he somehow... This highly compressed crap? It's a crappy connection, but here he is and he continues. And so he's phoning it in? Well, he has his image, he has pictures like Skype with photos or Skype with video. It's a hangout

1:33:29 It could be a hang up. These are called minimization procedures. They're approved by the Attorney General and constitutionally based, and so we protect those. And then for people, citizens of the world who are going about their lawful business on a day-to-day basis, the President in his 17th January speech laid out some additional protections that we are providing to them. So I think absolutely folks do have a right to privacy." First of all he's a lawyer?

1:34:17 And I'm going to say that he is either a lawyer for... hmmm, I gonna say he's a lawyer for technology company. He's very poorly spoken i thought Yes Saying ah and duh and all the rest of it all along in the connection was crap which did kind of I think The connections kind of give away what this guy who this guy is so let's do the revel reveal Let's do the big reveal here and now you can play it Number two Let's see where Adam answer that would be the one right? That's it. That's the deputy director of the National Security Agency Rick legit giving a TED talk actually from Fort Meade, Maryland in response to Edward Snowden's Ted Talk earlier this week he's at Google headquarters. He's from NSA yeah so I win hey Okay, I'll give you that just because it's funny. Yeah. He was doing a hangout

1:35:11 Hang out from Google. That was the connection, the best connection I could get. Wow! Our guys are good aren't they? That's the connection and that's the guy... he is not even well spoken and he is this second guy in command kind of thing Did he say.. let me just go back to something here hold on a second I just want to go back Let me see if I can reload this guy up Maybe I should open it up here He said something which was kinda weird Hold on I think it was near the end. Let me just scroll uno secondo here These are called minimization procedures there approved by the Attorney General and constitutionally based and so we protect those and then for citizens of the world Citizens of the world? Can we now be citizens of the world suddenly where is this world I sign up to

1:36:09 That's interesting. Where can I get my world passport? Citizens of the World, Unite! That's how they think douchebags all right and then we have a third one no no oh that's oh yeah this is just kind of to continue away this is part uh they had this guy Soltis who's taking over Greenwall or whatever the guy was that was writing for The Washington Post about Snowden he's discussing this minimization thing and points out a couple of factors that it might play into what you're gonna bring up next but I mean you can play it. Your response to this Ashpen Sultani?

1:36:48 But the fact that he gave a tech talk is amazing on a number of levels Amazing! On a number of levels? Um, but going to the kind of substance of his Who is this guy who is this guy This is the reporter for The Washington Post who took over all the Snowden leak stories He took over from Barton Gelman Yeah apparently. Well this guy- He seems like the lead guy This guys a dick He's a dick there anybody Washington Post hello anybody who says the fact that we were graced by the presence through a Google hangout of someone from the NSA at a TED talk was so amazing on so many levels what are the levels level your response to this Ashpen Sultani

1:37:35 Well, the fact that he gave a tech talk is amazing on a number of levels. But going to the kind of substance of his speech there one thing to realize is in fact yes, the NSA does employ minimization procedures when they encounter US persons information for example in bulk surveillance if they are to discover that voice communications or email communications belong to an American and they've determined that it is not a foreign intelligence or other uh... Stop! Okay, this is the reason I want the clip. Not for you to ridicule this guy. It

1:38:11 What he, and Amy doesn't pick this up. Nobody picks this up but what he's about to describe... He has two points to make one is that they will minimize the your stuff. Does that mean they click on the middle box with a little line in it? I don't know what they do but if they don't do anything really but then they're supposed to But when he discusses what they keep this stuff for says that do you remember when this all began? Yeah, it was about well. What was the main topic it seemed to be about I think terrorism It was about terrorism yes And everybody was a little upset about while this is just with the FBI these guys have always wanted to do which is Do a dragnet yes Let's just have illegal wire taps on everybody

1:38:56 And we just listen in and if there's anything that's... No, it's called retro. It's not they just want to have everything so and this was your point you made it early on Have everything store everything Collect upstream collection of everything and at a certain point Dvorak doesn't pay his parking tickets Let's pull his file! And then we go and listen all the all of your conversations Mimi I really need to finish the book Please listen to John's conversations, please All right here. We go and that is not a foreign intelligence or other Kind of national security interests right so thing they can be under counterterrorism counter narcotics I think in that speech he describes Human trafficking he describes you know money laundering there's a number of kind of

1:39:54 missions that the data could become useful for. But if it's determined that its a US person and its not viable to any of those broad missions, then there is minimization in place. Yeah which we know as a lie... Which we know as a lie because you have the Abouts collection which was very clearly... This one thing whoever who Bezos get me Bezos on the phone hello! Bezos where the hell is Bezos? Hello? Bezos?! You gotta do the laugh Hey Jeff, Jeff, Jeff. You got this new guy who's in for Barton Gellman over there at your Washington Post property? The thing you bought for $250 million dollars? Yeah yeah yeah That guy is a dick and he doesn't understand that if you put badguyat gmail dot com or terrorist at yahoo dot com in an email that then you can also be spied on by the agency could you please tell him that or fire him or I don't know... Do something about that? Sounds like it's doing its job to me

1:40:52 Jeff, your voice got all kind of authoritative. What happened to the wimpy with a stupid laugh thing? You know I uh... he also this guy points out that there's kind of another gotcha besides the you know bad guy or me sending you an email with the guys name yeah which i think is a great gimmick is that apparently even points us on his obvious too that all the Google stuff has replicated around the world So they can go, they just essentially go to the server in Iceland. I didn't know they had one there but they do and just take it from there and its legal theres no problem its trading on any American products or servers so they get all this stuff. This is stupid. The fact that we're putting up with this is astonishing. Well im not putting up with it. I don't use Gmail

1:41:37 I do not use the Google 8.8 DNS. I'm using We in a broader sense, I don't use...I use Gmail for one thing. Yeah to send me clips. To send you clips and um uh yes everyone i do think it's very funny when you send me an email and add at the bottom hey how about that bad guy at google.com? Everyone sending me email with hey terrorist at gmail dot com that guys shit yeah thanks So I now get all these abuts. Just put a bunch of Arabic in his email that you send him and it'll do the trick. Um, so here's what uh... Do you recall the defar- defartment? The department of depends has a blogger they have an armed with science blogger And she did that really creepy interview with um Kaiser Alexander Right! She remember with the creepy music and everything

1:42:34 Yes, I vaguely remember that. So she's back and she has... She's back! Yes and she has a new creepy video complete with creepy intro in fact i'll just play the intro And this is the National Security Agency part of the Defense Department part of the United States military who put this out In January of 2014, President Obama announced several initiatives to give the public greater confidence in the oversight of several national security agency programs. The creation of a full-time civil liberties and privacy officer was among the reforms cited. Seven weeks ago Becky Richards became the official Civil Liberties and Privacy Officer for the NSA

1:43:43 How creepy is that? Can you slow that down no I tried this multiple times and it just I tried to be any creepier No, it doesn't make it creepier. This is you don't need unnecessary and this is their music It's how the video begins And how it ends with a that is the mean these guys are lost They're lost these guys are insane John they are fucking insane This, they are whacking off to this crazy shit. Anyway so there's this interview with Becky Richards who before she was hired for this was a senior director for privacy at the Department of Homeland Security After rigorous and lengthy interview process I've selected an expert whose background will bring additional perspectives and insight to our foreign intelligence activities That's what Kaiser Alexander said

1:44:41 So I've pulled a couple clips from this interview, which i think are very relevant The first one is she's going to explain what her job is and this woman is so Drugged out. She can't even explain her job in the inch No you'll hear it should go She's waiting for the programming to kick in so it's a new position that was announced back in august by the president and The my job is to

1:45:19 advise the director as well as the entire agency on how to build privacy and civil liberties considerations into all that NSA does. Now, it's a new position at NSA but throughout the federal government there are number of positions so there is privacy officer and civil liberties and privacy officer positions throughout. So the concept is not unusual or new. It has been... The privacy procession has been growing for last 15 years or so. Please again note the music that is put under this interview because God forbid we just listen to her talk with their mouth open when she's trying to explain her job And she flutters with your eyes

1:45:56 Oh, she's fluttering? Yeah! She's closing her eyes. She's full of crap. Yes she's closing her eyes and fluttering trying to remember what her job is but wait...she's now going to tell us because this is really her job really is just to be a PR spokeshole for the agency and some figurehead because she is Annie she's the chief privacy officer she's now going to explain how privacy and respect for civil liberty really embedded in the agency, John. And she has an analogy for it which just makes me feel warm and fuzzy all over again music provided by your national security agency

1:46:37 Yeah, and so it's interesting. So I've been at NSA for about six weeks now and from certainly what you'd read in the newspapers it sounds like there aren't a lot of protections in place but I've been really impressed by what are the existing privacy and civility protections that are in place The agency is extraordinary has a culture of great compliance And so if you tell people what it is they're supposed to do they are absolutely doing it As I like to say that it seems that their compliance is in their veins. They really understand what it means to protect privacy Compliance's in their veins They really know what it is to protect people's privacy you see what this is turning into right now, and you'll hear it now Is the National Security Agency? They protect your privacy and civil liberties do you see the way where this is going um

1:47:29 This is the change. Oh, I like it! And you'll hear her... Actually this is her real job description Some of my job is helping to translate what the agency is doing now to protect privacy and civil liberties and then also work on a going forward basis To build privacy into new technologies and make sure that we're considering it and that were documenting what those considerations are Okay so this warrants a little... We have to stop here for second Part of her job is translating to these stupid, low citizenry, the cannon fodder useless eaters. Translating to them because I guess we don't speak your language that we are protecting your privacy and civil liberties

1:48:21 Listen again with those ears I just put on you. Some of my job is helping to translate what it is the agency is doing now to protect privacy and civil liberties. Translating what the agency is doing now to protect privacy and civil liberties, thank you! Thank you, I feel much safer now...much much safer And now we're going to talk about how we really are protecting your privacy But we won't really show it for a little while. I want to ensure that we build privacy and civil liberties considerations into what the agency does, and ensure that the right people are making the right decisions as it relates to those assessments. And so identifying where we can work within existing processes to build those assessments in and build off of existing work that's happening there

1:49:09 A year or three years or five years from now we're able to comfortably demonstrate what it is were doing. There's a lot of discussion about how we do it." What is that? So, we'll show you in five years from now will be comfortable and show you what we're doing when we've all been trained and shoehorned into submission? What does this mean?! In five years I want to be able to comfortably tell you what we're doing. We are now, were able to comfortably demonstrate what it is for doing well why not now? What are you not comfortable with demonstrating what you're doing right now Becky where we can work within existing processes to build those assessments in and build off of existing work that's happening there so that

1:49:50 A year or three years or five years from now, we're able to comfortably demonstrate what it is that we are doing. There's a lot of discussion about how do protect privacy and what I want to be able to do is demonstrate that through documentation and through protections. Alright so there you go in 5 year she'll have the documentation on how our privacy was protected... Or created Whatever obviously a bogus position. Let me just her back she's on LinkedIn and her full name is actually Rebecca Becky Richards Gorham Gorham yeah, I can't find any reference to a Gorham But I bet you there is something and they don't want to use that g o r h or go H or what is he? Oh our ham Hmm so she is the senior according to Lincoln. She's senior privacy blah blah blah she went from

1:50:43 She was at George Washington University from what I can tell two years and didn't do anything before that. At least this is the wit she has on LinkedIn, she doesn't...she's not very active on LinkedIn about her background. She's a spook! Yeah or something so she left George Washington University in 2000 there is nothing about her until 2004 right? So from 2000 to 2004 she was big spook I don't know maybe when she just playing dice on the corner. Then she went to Department of Homeland Security in 2004 to become the senior, out-of-the blue, Senior Director of Privacy Compliance meaning they don't give a crap and then she kind of went up to director of privacy compliance

1:51:30 And this is one of those things where the when you're called a senior and a junior and all the rest of it doesn't mean your Senior, the director's just the one that runs up. She was the director until they moved her just recently to this so she doesn't know anything She's never worked a day in her life It seems to me And she sounds it. She sounds like some sort of a valet dingbat. She looks at them! This is the kind of people that are protecting your privacy, this is essentially the government saying hey yeah okay we'll put a privacy director in and we got this woman We'll just put her there That says screw you public Screw you, we don't need anyone to actually give us a hand Intelligence work takes place within a strong legal framework We operate under the rule of law and are accountable for it

1:52:15 In some countries, secret intelligence is used to control their people. In ours it only exists to protect their freedoms. Protect their freedoms. Protect their freedoms. Now listen to their audio! That was me goofing around? This is real! This is real! President Obama announced several initiatives... ...to give the public greater confidence in oversight of state and federal agency programs The creation of a full-time civil liberties and privacy officer. Unbelievable! I can't even listen to it. Privacy officers been created for your benefit, no shoes or no shirts, no service... To protect your freedom. People get off of Facebook Get off of Twitter Get off of Gmail Get off it You'll see Which reminds me of the clip they have

1:53:22 I have decided, i'm gonna do this a regular feature if someone wants to make it jingle. It's one year ago today! Actually have two clips from one year ago today because when I put these clips into my file... When I look for them-I haven't archived the old clip so the dates are like wait a minute oh no that's from last year. Wait a minute you have a file and you actually found something in it? Oh So we forgot about this. It's also now it's become NPN Media, but it was then called and we played this so this is one of these companies and they're very involved early on with native advertising all the rest mostly for TV And they have most of them are US markets They got stations in Chicago and New York all big ones CBS affiliates mostly by the way Yeah Because you guys came out as he was this isn't you remember this? This is news pro net

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1:55:32 Wait a minute, I'm looking at this. They've got Megyn Kelly... they've got Ronan! Ronan's apart of this outfit. What are you looking at? News Pro Net! NPN. Pay no attention to me. Alright, I do remember this and they make bullshit news and syndicate it out right? They don't know. Yeah, well that's basically what they do. What do you mean no? Yes! They get hired to do it. It's not like they just DO IT. Oh okay but... It's not like hey let's make some bull crap news and put it out there. Well no they do it for money. Yes! They do it for money for companies corporations that say look we gotta get more of this papilloma virus sold or got it backed up in the warehouse You know what inventory tax is like? It's horrible especially in the United States We gotta move this stuff

1:56:29 What can you do for us? Let's see what they got. They've got No More TV, as in K-N-O-W Oh by the way! So No More TV which says... NO MORE TV Right Is one of their little outlets and I checked out that is like even more frightening than the News Pro Net thing. Let's look at their advertisers and brands Hold on let's see who we have Advertisers brand oh thats just four advertisement brands No More TV en Español Do they have any video Did you not did you not clip a whole bunch of really good stuff here? Live smart, be healthy. No more feeling off after a long flight. No more Lucy Seagal dishes about ways you can get your mind and body back in the right time zone Yeah I just discovered this at... What is this? How about China Link what's on the China link

1:57:25 I don't even see the China link. Well, get to know the Chinese in their own backyard! Africa! The latest addition to NPN Media's growing list of content brands, China Link was developed to inform and entertain viewers about China and its people as the world becomes interconnected And with China becoming one of the two largest economies, understanding the Chinese and their way of life grows in importance and relevance. We cover a variety of business culture health and wellness lifestyle topics." Blah blah blah I want to hear some...I want to see some of their dumb stuff! Our clients list of clients here we go who is using these jabronis? Okay oh this is it Oh my goodness okay I get if they're client's are actually the TV stations yeah

1:58:16 And then here's the... Oh my wow! Who do they have in the big markets? Let's see, New York. They have WCBS LA, KABC Chicago These are the people that put together the packages NPN puts together the packages Yeah, NPN puts together the packages and distributes it out to their clients Which is this list And they run them full cloth Well crap we could do this Yeah We could I don't think we want to. You gotta work on your legs though! Well, they just need shaving. Advertising solutions... wow

1:59:00 Well, you're right. This is not something we want to do. Spokesperson or celebrity? This is something from a year ago that we talked about already and I want to because we have a lot of new listeners and yeah I want to revisit some of these things Yeah And this is a good one that we have to be aware that this is going on So we don't get... Wow did you see that article on how Diet Coke doesn't have as much sugar? Yeah, and I'll say that we've received in an ordinate amount Emails recently from people who aren't even seeing that the article they're sending us stack. I'm looking at you That it's a native advertising this happens a lot Excuse, I mean how much do we have to talk discusses before people start to see it for what? It is these stories Yeah, oh well, that's why goes I'm gonna show my support by donating to know agenda imagine all the people who could deal with us Oh yeah, that'd be fun

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2:06:52 Yes, all monies collected require a permit in Finland. If you do it on the internet you have to... So how does that work when you're not in Finland? I don't know! As long as we don't do it in Finnish I guess we're okay However what's interesting is Wikipedia here the National Police Board of Finland has decided not to take any action against Wikipedia over its appeal for donations in Finland Collecting money without a permit is illegal, but the board has decided not to act against the online encyclopedia And they have a reason for it. I think it's because it's Culturally relevant or something there's some weird thing they've got going on where it said what okay? We need clarification on this you finish producers Yeah One two

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2:08:43 This is... Now, let me see. Adam and John have been donating the show for the past six months I got to knighthood on episode 5, 9 or 3 however i was never knighted even though the show notes do list me as Sir Brett Mahoney I bugged John a few times Anyway Adam, I figured I'd ask you And there ya go So he will be a black knight because we blew it on that one I don't know how that happened It does happen Obviously when you're running this huge organization with by yourself two guys two guys and two guys a microphone and some squirrel nuts Yes indeed so I would like to let me just grab the blade here, so we can do this properly if you If you can yeah Okay

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2:10:20 Hey-oh! Indeed. Uh, War on Men I just would like to point out one of these little War on Men ditties that is pissing me off This of course is another... we're into getting close to election season obviously which means we have to do everything to discredit the other guys and the Democrat, the Democratic Party is very very good at this Republicans love guns. Mothers of the world, you must never vote for a Republican because... bleh! Then we have... what was the other one we picked up on the other day? It was a new one. Well but for sure we know that Republicans hate women and there's a war on women. They hate women

2:11:09 Now the president has his little podcast which is about 18, 19... We haven't seen this podcast or listened to this podcast for quite some time now. Yes and of course I love the podcasts because you know we always start off with In The Morning and all that stuff he always starts off with Heil Everybody! Now, he's going to say something in here and this is another one of these statistics. And the last one we debunked which is just factually not true there's no data to back it up that we can find or that has been presented to us in the hashtag ban bossy campaign uh that campaign states women do 66 percent of the work but only make 10 percent of the money

2:11:48 And this is a statement that goes back to 1989 by some douche knuckle from an NGO and there's no data to back it up, but it's just being rolled out. Have you heard the new one? I'm sure I will! Hi everybody. This week I visited a community college in Florida where I spoke with students about what we need to do to make sure our economy rewards the hard work of every American, more specifically i spoke about making sure our economy rewards the hard work of women today women make up about half of our workforce and more than half of our college graduates More women are now their families main breadwinner than ever before

2:12:29 But in a lot of ways our economy hasn't caught up to this new reality yet. On average, a woman still earns just 77 cents for every dollar a man does and too many women face outdated workplace policies that hold them back which in turn holds back our families and our entire economy A woman deserves to earn equal pay for equal work Okay now this is where something really tricky happened here I'm going to play his parrot Al Sharpton so you can hear what has now been launched into the stratosphere. Women make about 77 cents for every dollar man makes for doing the same job don't Republican needs to be more sensitive to issues like that? Don't Republican needs to be sensitive to issues more like that all right whatever Al. Now what is being said here, is that women make seventy seven cents to the male dollar

2:13:25 For the same job. That is a lie now the president didn't actually say that but what he said was Women make 77 cents for every dollar a man earns and then later He says women deserve to have equal pay for equal work The statistic is not true for the same job The statistic in some regards holds true, but then you're looking across all jobs that are held by men and women Okay, so it is not it is absolutely not true that women receive 77 percent 77 cents on the dollar that male men received for the same job While it sometimes of course does happen. That is not an across-the-board statistic The statistic is seventy seven cents to the male dollar across the board for all jobs

2:14:20 But you watch, and this is going to be in the lexicon just like the 1989 bullcrap 66% of the work for 10% of the pay. And it's factually untrue! And actually I looked this up and you know where i got the politifact which I hate because they're douche But PolitiFact is even calling the president on this. But you watch, it's got legs and everyone's going to be saying well they only get 77 cents for every dollar a man earns for the same job and it's not true! And you just heard Al Sharpton pick it up and lie about it. All right well I would put that in the book but it's so obvious... No no you don't have to put it in the book as really...I think one thing we do have to put in the book and I've mentioned that we might discuss that if I put in the newsletter there's a possibility

2:15:11 And I want to discuss it just for a minute because we're the only show that would even breach this topic, which is Bill Clinton and his future. Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Now if we look at the book well We have in here not fine Okay Hold on Well, we started talking about this about a year and a half ago Maybe longer we put in the book that Hillary that Hillary will kill bill or let's just say he will die I have that part Yeah And he will die you'll have him killed she's not gonna choke him or anything and he will die in the saddle though That will be that's already said would be out. No. No, I don't That's in the book

2:15:51 I know it's in the book. Who said it me or you? You said that, you said that well we're gonna here's the deal and then I say I said he's going to die before the election and you said he's going to die some other time no no no I always said before the election could they give Hillary a boost at the end oh you are lying now this is all I think it was right before the election if she needed the boost would you please find why wouldn't she kill him after the election. She needs the votes! She wants a sympathy vote, it was my theory that she would get its sympathy vote. Oh you are so... okay fine. No no I know but you can lie to me. Here's what the argument was, the argument was YOU said he's gonna get killed this year and i said NO it's gonna be closer to the election

2:16:35 Okay, that may be possible. So I still have what a nine months no? I'm saying we were pulling We're pulling the red book entry and we're restating it now so it can be With with newest information. I think you can restate it and rediscuss it because I think things have changed I've got information man new shit has come to light oh Exactly! Good call. So, uh... And I think it's this little thing with the two whores. Hello, hello sex workers. Sex workers? They're from the bunny ranch not whores. Okay they're sex workers you are right. Entertainers. You should retract that. No, sex workers. Although hanging out with that douchebag that she was- That does put you in the whore category. They were whorish

2:17:30 Well, you know so they got Clinton's you know and people who got the newsletter. They saw that what we're talking about and I think now that I think that Hillary has got to start thinking about The timing of this because if you she's gonna be if she kills him really close to the election I think that it's not going to necessarily help her campaign. She has to kill him now, which is what i've always said! I think you might be right. Now did you know... Now I never said she was gonna kill him after the election. You're right but I think I was mistaken. But I think you might be right because there's a two-phase thing. First he dies

2:18:11 Yes. And then they're gonna have a big, you know ceremony and it's all going to be about him and there's not gonna be talking about anybody else is about his bill bill bill and then the crackpots will be coming out the conspiracy people oh Hillary killed him which of course we are predicting Of course that what I'll be saying Yeah, you'll be saying it all the same but what that will die and that needs a period of To die that little idea that she would do this in some way shape or form Even though she's got access to all the same murder. Well, let's see Let's see here would this is a this changes things we have to read Here look at here is now as you know I'm a time traveler and I went into the future

2:18:52 This is why it's so easy for me to make all these bets about iWatch and all this stuff, because I'm a time traveler. You know did I tell you the name of the new pope before anyone knew it? Yeah Okay What am I? Time traveller And I came back from the future The only thing that makes sense... I came back yes From the future and have a clip- I brought a clip with me from the future Hold on, I need future clip music hold on do we have this Ummm I've got a clip from the future of Hillary after she kills Bill. So, I mean that is the land of unconfirmed... Yes we came, we saw he died! There you go from the future John yeah from the future let's rethink this whole thing now if bill is in bills not healthy so then it doesn't look good hold on I got to come back from the future time travel at the end like what's hair on your harp in your office puts hair on your chest

2:19:52 You know that he's mentioned in this Peto Bear lawsuit? Have you heard about this? No. Okay, Jeffrey Epstein, banker dude, hedge fund asshole obviously arrested in 2008 for soliciting underage prostitutes... In the lawsuit now There's information about Bill, how he took multiple trips to Epstein's private island where he quote kept young women as sex slaves. They have all of his the jet logs of how many times Bill went over there now that you can do a lot of things with Hillary underage hookers that she draws the line at that on this private Caribbean island which what did they call this thing like little Oh Little St James

2:20:42 Little St. James. So one of these, she's now of age... One of these then underage women what was her name? I think they have a code name for like you know They better have a code name for her or she'd be dead yeah well it is I'm looking forward to now Oh Jane Doe 102 Okay, uh says she was forced. How many other women are there? At least 102! Wow that's a good point She was forced to live as one of Epstein's underage sex slaves for years and was forced to have sex with politicians businessmen royalty academics etc according to the lawsuit

2:21:28 Do we have the lawsuit filings? No, I do not. I'm looking for them. We'll get them. This is important this is part of this discussion this is another angle we have to consider So I'm changing my whole idea that it's gonna be just before the election for a quickie. It would be good this year because, you know look we're already...the plane thing is played out if you want to get this MH370 off the screen kill Bill! Kill Bill Now here's the deal and by the way that movie named Kill Bill is kind of fortuitous

2:22:04 We're gonna pick a date, we're gonna do a Deadpool. I know it sounds sick and it's actually ghoulish and people out there should you know if you don't like what we're talking about It's just the way the show goes sometimes yeah, we can't help it I want to pull-I want us to have a Deadpool where we-in fact maybe even let some of the listeners join in with You know if we have a donation. You wanna actually wanna calling dates now is that what we're doing? Yes Wow Huh Well, it's got a... I don't want to. Here is the problem and here is the old problem which was always with this and maybe we should bring other people in. We have to discuss this further but if you said well I think it'll be January 10th 2015 and then I say January 11 because just tonight so I get covered all the way to the end and you don't have any versatility on the other side cause I don't have any versatility on this side either

2:22:58 I think, and i don't know how to do this so it works but we need...I'm now in your camp that is going to be sooner than later. But I still think it'll be in 2015 at least a year before the election No! You know you know how much work it takes? We've got a lot of set up. I think they could take us all the way into the pre-election season, which is already starting basically. And she needs to announce! So we need months and months of mourning and retrospectives... You're thinking it's going to be within the next 60 days? Yeah I'm thinking maybe even less than that. With this lawsuit he has gotta go now. He's gotta go! The underage thing, hookers okay. The underage hookers sorry thats unacceptable

2:23:52 He's got to go. Well, okay we'll put off this discussion until we get the look at that document it's gotta be filed somewhere let's do that okay I'm on the lookout for the document a good point i think that's what I want to see the documents you so if either one of us finds and we have to send it to the other guy Yeah, of course. Now I wouldn't withhold that from you... Actually this would be a good make-good for Stek! After he sent us this piece of crap. The native advertising. Stek get us the lawsuit alright? We got lots of lawyers listening to the show. Yeah we've got lots of lawyers. And speaking of hookers

2:24:30 As you know, I think it starts tomorrow. The Netherlands has been turned into Gitmo nation proper There's tanks on the road people the Dutch people are going what is this because of the big nuclear summit? Right and everyone's gonna be there now They actually are cut what I told you a week ago on this show now they actually Are saying in public though that plane might show up as a bomb Going to kill everybody in the I'm not kidding. This is a newspaper it's in the newspaper now But more importantly we know that the escort companies have been booked way more advanced than usual and of course You know they all have to sign their non-disclosures and everything although all the escorts are were all primed and pumped and ready pun intended but here's what's interesting at the meeting table at the forum in The Hague lunch

2:25:27 will be served only by male servers. No females and all men... Yes, and all men will be at least 25 years of age because they don't want anyone being distracted. Is it all these horned dogs coming into town? Yes! The director of Fondalinda Catering says that this is exactly what they have been asked to do is to have... They've been asked to do this because it's that bad a problem?! Yeah It literally says we do not want the attendees being distracted. By a waitress? Yes! Serving food?! This is in the newspaper, so I presume someone did the research on it... Yeah Hey look at her! I'm thinking this is great, I met a bunch of guys that are like hey look at- That guy's hot!!

2:26:25 Yeah, I'm thinking it's exactly the opposite. I think there are a bunch of horndog gay guys at this thing. Maybe that is why they made it. We don't want any women in here distracting us from the good looking men. The good looking dudes! Could be? You're just misinterpreting it. Yeah could be...I am just reading as it comes in It's funny. Is this a summit supposed to accomplish? I think what it is going to accomplish is the ICBM in Poland, how convenient is that we have this whole F-Russia thing going on with Ukraine and why don't we just while were at it why don't we just have a nuclear summit and talk about where are gonna put the rockets back This isnot gonna end well

2:27:18 Yeah, I have a bad feeling about this as well. It's so obvious that the media is complicit in making this... Witness the Obama bots who are like, oh Putin is a bad guy! You can't say he's a good guy! Well no unlike who? Like Cheney?! These were good guys?? What are you talking about and yeah Rumsfeld, Brennan, current douchebags that are running killing missions? No none of these guys are good And talking about that I have a clip. Okay Now there's two partners it's called impeachment and this was guy was Wilkerson There was the chief of staff for Colin Powell just bitching about everything and on one of Tom Hartman's Spin-off shows called bright great brains or something Hartman is a pathetic interviewer by the way, but this guy went off the rails here And I thought he was making sense. On Contra maybe even Clinton

2:28:14 They were petty crimes. They didn't rise to the level of what our founding fathers might have called high crimes and misdemeanors. Article 2 of the Constitution has an impeachment clause in it, I think that founders would be astounded utterly astounded to a man Elbridge Gerry Alexander Hamilton George Washington Thomas Jefferson James Madison you name one of the founders that we know they'd be astounded if we hadn't thrown some bastard out every generation We've just not used that clause properly. It certainly should have been used against George W Bush if there was anyone who should have been impeached, successfully removed from office it was George W Bush so in that vein the nature of those crimes in my view and I think we need that 6,000 plus page report from the Senate Select Committee. I think we need to Panetta Report. We need these things out so we can look at them as Americans with that in mind

2:29:08 President Obama made a grave mistake in not doing something about the previous administration's high crimes and misdemeanors. Hmm, that was a good point! It's the second article, it's about the executive office and the Constitution. And there is a very fairly clear in there that it was an impeachment process if you don't like the guy for some reason or he's always a criminal I mean we did have Spyro Agnew who was the first vice president under Richard Nixon kicked out of office people always forget about that just literally taking bribes in the Vice President's Office by the suitcase full and Nixon did the same thing but he was never caught

2:29:45 these guys are essentially either criminals or war criminals many of them and we've just... Right, but only Congress can impeach the president. You can't have a you know it's what exactly did Obama do wrong? He didn't say Obama he was talking about George W Bush No he said he saying Obama made a severe mistake by not going after him when he was senator No, no when he ran the country the first two years of his election He could have said we're gonna investigate the previous administration for war crimes and you congressmen You're doing weird. You all got elected your old Democrats are all in my camp He owned a Congress he owned the Senate he woulda he could have pushed it And then the Senate would have approved it because he was gold for two years uh-huh

2:30:35 No, he didn't do shit. He could have put in a single-payer health care too! He didn't do anything the guy's horrible. He should also be impeached for killing people with drones now Here's the second part of which is just kind of an interesting addendum If you were to draft that bill of impeachment, what would it specify? I'd have to have those 6,000 plus pages and then I think i'd have adequate material to frame those articles. So we don't even know the full extent... I think the fright on John Brennan's part right now is that not only will there be people within the CIA who will have to be indicted if this comes out

2:31:14 John Brennan may be amongst them. Yeah, he should be! And Hayden? Absolutely! Yeah and that Rodriguez guy the torture specialist... Felix? No a different guy Anyway yeah absolutely but there's a lot of people How about McCain how about just throw McCain in just for good measure Just so they have something to eat Throw that guy in So here, so I could put in the Red Book this 6,000 page document is never gonna see the light of day and if it does it will be leaked and it'll be the biggest scandal in the history of the country. No! I disagree It will be leaked And...it'll be written about on The Intercept and no one will see it Okay you say leaked? Leaked, no one cares that's what I said No one cares and I say leaked people care Okay Leaked, no one cares is where I'm going

2:32:11 Okay, let me put that get my highlighter back so I can put it so we can find these damn things when I need to. I need to add a new... A new neocon to the mix in our never-ending F Russia campaign? Okay, I'm listening Madeline Albright Oh! Oh yeah Madeline Albright She would fit in Former... Stole Neocons Former Secretary of State she runs She has a pretty nice, sweet outfit she's got going on here. What is it called? I can't find it now... Oh yes! The Albright Stonebridge Group and this group if you look at their website which is www.albrightstonebridge.com If you go to their homepage here

2:33:04 This is what you do when you get out of Washington, or you don't really ever get out of Washington. We speak the language of business... Oh whoops just switched! we go beyond opening doors working alongside our clients to help navigate challenging markets based in Washington and capitals around the world Our advisors provide unparalleled insights high-level strategic advice and switching too fast with experience that spans countries and industries we tailor strategic solutions We speak the languages of businesses and government translating opportunities and risks into benefits and rewards. Funny enough, they do a lot of work in Russia also in China so what you do is if you want to open up a business these people... Of course Madeleine Albright she can pick up the phone and call anybody she wants

2:33:52 Yeah, including the Kim Jong-un. If you want yeah she can pick up the phone call anybody and this is how you know they help navigate you what would typically with this is what the job of embassies that's when an embassy should do but the embassy guys are too busy drinking and throwing parties for everybody they don't really do that much. They don't do any work no so it's a hey no follow-up by the way on my honorary consul I think a dead end. Uh-oh, so here's uh... Somebody sent a copy of the show! Here's Madeline Albright and I forget where she is being interviewed but she is using the same... Perfect for that job! Yeah, Albright is... Here she is kind of parroting what all these what all the others are saying and she's really right on board and of course you know she gets on television and this is very important for the general lexicon of what we're doing here to

2:34:49 to screw Russia back into the Stone Age. Well, I do think we need to be more vigilant and those of us that have dealt with Putin know how he thinks and um... He really is nostalgic and believes that he's some kind of a new czar so... Meme! He's nostalgic? And thinks that he's some kind of new czar?! Oh, did you think she ever dealt with Putin? Was he what is there pictures of him and her together She didn't deal while you're doing that. I'll do a look I do think I think that it's when people talk about military force They always think boots on the ground I have a picture her of Her and Putin smiling at each other laughing and having a good old time Ha ha ha hey Vlad You two-faced bitch

2:35:36 I hate these people. He believes that he's some kind of a new czar, so i do think...I think that it's when people talk about military force they always think boots on the ground and there are obviously other ways to think about military force and I do you think that NATO and through a variety of exercises and support I think that there is a way that tool has also be on the table in vigilance because And one of our other problems, and it came up with the way you talked about Ukraine David generally is we have a very short attention span. We have to see this as a long-term problem We worked in the 90s to try to get Russia

2:36:17 part of the system. We did everything we possibly could and I think that they now are in a process of isolating themselves, it is dangerous this is a game changer and I think...I know were all focused on the airplane but the bottom line is this has really truly long-term implications and we all need to focus on how to deal with Ukraine how to deal with US European relations try to get our economic treaties trade treaties done and then focus on our relations with Russia. Turning point, I'm very glad that Time has it on the cover and i'm very glad to have been a part of this discussion." Okay war monger throw her in jail along with Brennan by the way if you look at a younger picture of her she looks really a lot like Victoria Newland. It's something they shoot him up with

2:37:08 Well that may be what Victoria Newland ends up looking like. That would be something to think about. Well, who needs jail? There you go! That's your future, Newland. So I have three clips from the guy who... which fits in with what you've got there This guy was the ambassador to the USSR during Reagan he was on one of the Democracy Now! shows and just yacking away. And he's actually interesting, played Jack Matlock is his name... Matt Lock. You know I have to ask Americans how would Occupy Wall Street have looked if you had foreigners out there leading them? Do you think that would've helped them get their point across? I don't think so

2:37:53 And I think we have to understand that when we start directly interfering, particularly our government officials in the internal makeup of other governments. We're really asking for trouble and you know, we were pretty careful not to do that in my day and I recall for example when I was being consulted by the newly elected leaders of what was still Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania. They were still in the Soviet Union and they would come to us we were of course sympathetic to their independence We had never even recognized that they were legally part of the Soviet Union but i had to tell them keep it peaceful

2:38:39 if you are suppressed there's nothing we can do about it. We cannot come and help you, we're not going to start a nuclear war." Yeah apparently nobody is thinking that way anymore of course they don't care now here he makes the point about NATO which I think is more actually even more pertinent. The decision to expand NATO the way it was done, was one of the most fateful and bad decisions of the late 20th century. I bet you Don knows this guy just looking at his...

2:39:32 his career. Don probably knows him I'm sure he does they're both about the same age yeah same age same age anyway look at the last clip he defends the Russians over the Crimean thing Russia now has returned Crimea to Russia it has been most of its recent history in the last couple of centuries been Russian, the majority of people are Russian they clearly would prefer to be in Russia and a And the bottom line is we can argue till doomsday over who did what and why, and who was legal and who was not. I'm sure historians generations from now will still be arguing it but the fact is Russia now is not going to give up Crimea

2:40:17 The fact also is, if you really look at it dispassionately Ukraine is better off without Crimea. Because Ukraine is divided enough as it is their big problem is internal in putting together disparate people who have been put together in that country distraction of Crimea where most of the people did not want to be in Ukraine and ended up in Ukraine as a result of really almost a bureaucratic whim. You know it's an interesting guy by the way I hope he stays alive long enough to get more out of him, things that while everyone America was watching the stupid people idiots in black holes and flight simulators and zombie planes

2:41:03 This happened over in Europe this morning prior to the European Council We signed the political provisions of the association agreement between the European Union and Ukraine It is a sign of our solidarity with the people of Ukraine of our support for their aspirations and their thirst For change they're thirst for change before the ceremony We put his gun to his head and said this is what you're going to do. President of the European Commission and myself we had a meeting with the Prime Minister Yatsenyuk of Ukraine who assured us that his government was focusing on answering people's call for open and modern Ukraine

2:41:49 to achieve this economic and democratic reform, and above all inclusiveness are essential. And I am confident that the Ukrainian government and people will succeed on this path." So i looked at the documents of course because I love doing this in the European Union they love publishing stuff um...and unfortunately everything that I found still says you know this is not the final document into we're talking about the EU-Ukraine association agreement And they have all the complete text, but they say oh not until it's been put into the EU journal is it official. So anything could have been changed But paraphrasing two important points The first three billion dollars of aid actually goes directly to Russia under a previous agreement They did discount agreement with Ukraine for gas bills not paid This is the most painful 3 billion

2:42:42 And here is the main... So all that pretty talk that Haiku Herman just said there, here is the line that is most pertinent. The Ukrainian government must quote embark swiftly on an ambitious program of structural reforms I'd say that means they better start learning to speak Greek because that's the model It's the model. There are just no two ways about it, you're going down people! Yeah you're gonna get rubble-ized. Oh yeah, rubble-ized to the max I gotta kick out of this one little side note which is... oh by the way should mention that Jay Buskill Jr.'s buddy who lived in Ukraine had a couple things that he felt we should at least mention

2:43:29 The Ukrainian society is, and this is weird. The Ukrainian society is divided up into three classes the upper classes which are equally corrupt Russians and corrupt Ukrainians that read the highest levels of governance And then there's the middle class which is huge apparently. Yeah it's like here where they got... yeah and the middle class is the ones that all want to be Europeans, yeah? The lower class which is also huge doesn't want to be European they'd much rather be Russian and and they're pretty much controlled by Chinese this it's like what had to do some work on this on the Chinese triads the gangs of China Apparently have the middle class under their control because they're the only ones who have jobs for these people

2:44:16 And this creates a very strange structure. Oh, that doesn't surprise me at all! No it doesn't surprise me just I've never heard one mention of it But the Chinese have the mafia... is it the Yakuza or whatever? No thats Japanese The Triads are the Chinese Yes, the triads that run the third of the country. Wow! And they're all over the place and there are dead set against any of this stuff happening but... So what's the business? What is it? It must be drugs isn't that what the Chinese do? No I think about everything there is a section outside of Odessa which is the corrupt port now they're in you know like they run the ports the Chinese run the ports

2:44:58 They run all this stuff, commerce. They just run in the place. That really means they run the drugs? Yeah there's lots of drugs and also lots of black market stuff that doesn't have import duties which is you know stuff coming in from stolen goods places crawling with stolen goods they probably run I don't know if they run The Hooker since every woman seems to be one whatever the case no offense nobody from Ukraine listens to the show Whatever the case is that I got to look into this because this adds a little interesting dimension But it just clip. I have which I think it's kind of amusing is the is the is kind of the salt in the wound This Russian clip, it says Russia wants money from the Ukraine

2:45:44 And many of those Ukrainian officers and sailors who've been thrown off their boats and bases say they want to stay in the Ukrainian Navy. They'll have to be reassigned somewhere else, and if add insult to injury Libby as the Russian forces were throwing Ukrainians off those naval ships today, the Russian Prime Minister Hey, that's a familiar number. That is exactly the number that the EU has to... that the IMF is going to come up with So that's the number! That's where it's going

2:46:26 I guess. And then another three million to Russia, three billion to Russia for the gas and then there's a I guess two billion left over to snort! I have no idea... Yats, yats, yatz and crew, yats and noodle men are all gonna have a good time. Man, they're having a good time well good luck with that-I think there's a religious element to this too by the way this whole Ukraine thing. Yeah we probably should look at it yeah I think there's a Zionist versus Christian... yeah it's a complicated orthodox Christians in Ukraine one is the Russian Orthodox and one the other ones that Orthodox Orthodox yeah I think if you look at Yats, Yats as a Jew

2:47:12 I don't know. I can feel it everywhere. It's a mess! Why are we involved in it? Rubbleize that, rubble it, rubble-ize it Yeah well rubbleizing will at least get him back to square one and give Bechtel something to do Hey I've got to wind up with one little sequence here because tonight there'll be something you can watch but won't give any information And its regarding of course... It's called American TV It's called television It's called network television This is the first report that you probably read, although I think it's not entirely true. We won't really know until tomorrow when the judge releases his opinion In Florida an FBI agent has been cleared in the fatal shooting of a Chechen man Florida state attorney will release this report on Tuesday 27-year old Ibrahim Tordachev died while he was being questioned about his friendship with Tamerlan Tsarnaev one of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects

2:48:07 Tsarnaev later died in a gun battle with police. So the word was run over by his brother when they keep changing this story so Tordashev, what is it Ibrahim Tordashev the guy who was shot in the back of the head by the FBI so if the judge doesn't really publish his opinion until Monday But everyone is already saying oh well informants tell us that the FBI's getting all Rachel Maddow interestingly is all over this and she has counted 151 episodes of the FBI shooting someone killing them and zero Convictions of any agents for doing that it's all been fair kill now. So here's the first thing I want to say, I believe that when the FBI interviews a interrogates a subject there's video and

2:49:03 So it must and there's always video no matter where in the cell, no matter where they're interrogating somebody. There's a video camera running so for this to be even a question I just want to see the video now we'll see what comes of that tomorrow Now the most important thing We have been waiting for a very important video The video that shows the Sarnef brothers placing the bomb into the trash bin, as has been told to us. This is the smoking gun video and when we were asking about this video a year ago, the governor of the state of Massachusetts in which Boston is located claimed...and I pulled the clip

2:49:52 that he knows the video proof is there, but yet he hasn't seen the video either. Is there anything on the videotape that maybe the public hasn't seen about his reaction? That was particularly telling that movie investigation along well, the videotape is not something I've seen has been described to me in my briefings But it does seem to be pretty clear that this suspect took the backpack off. put it down, did not react when the first explosion went off and then moved away from the backpack in time for the second explosion. So pretty clear about his involvement and pretty chilling frankly. Okay so now... And when I went back to listen to this I would also know okay so the smoking gun consists of this guy putting down the backpack

2:50:52 And then for some reason an explosion goes off somewhere else, but he doesn't react to the explosion which makes him guilty. Tonight on 60 minutes on American Television on the telescreen there will be uh and it will the 60 minutes with that would be 60 minutes which is really about 34 after you subtract all the commercials Tonight on CBS 34 minutes they will look at this entire bombing sequence and I have a promo of what's the guy that runs the 60-minute show Peli, Peli does he run it?

2:51:32 And he talks about this video and who has seen it what's in it? What will happen with it, and when it will be shown to the public I thought I found this to be a thrilling update It turned out the evidence that would solve the case had been collected before The first bomb exploded that Monday. The FBI could travel back in time through the lenses of dozens of security cameras up-and-down Boylston almost 13 thousand different videos were obtained. 120,000 actually more than a hundred twenty thousand still photographs At the FBI lab in Virginia, 120 analysts were searching video feeds from Boston. What are you looking for? Somebody who just doesn't look similar to others in a crowd who would be watching a race Was there a eureka moment in terms of the video at some point somebody said hey boss have a look at this Yes there was it was I believe Wednesday morning and we watched that video hundreds and hundreds of times

2:52:35 Scott, good morning. Good morning Charlie Nora great to be with you. What surprised you most about what they had? Well the people we just heard from Charlie that's Rick Deloria the special agent in charge of Boston who was in charge of the overall investigation and The woman was Stephanie Douglas who was the number three at the FBI at all FBI headquarters And she was running the investigation from up there I think the thing that surprised me the most was the manpower just the sheer manpower at least a thousand agents and analysts working on this case all at once, which is how they were able to solve this in just 101 hours. It's incredible the massive crime scene and then a hundred and twenty thousand still photographs I've never heard that before what was the moment that they thought they had something? That they had the pictures of the Sarnaev brothers A photo analyst in Boston going through the video again and again

2:53:29 noticed this video that has not been seen in public, in which the first bomb goes off. You don't see that but everybody in the shot and the video looks suddenly to their left in shock and surprise except one guy. He doesn't look, doesn't turn around isn't surprised Wow, that is a reason to be guilty. And he walks away and earlier in that video he had placed the backpack on the ground 20 seconds after he walks out of the frame The backpack explodes killing an eight-year old boy taking the leg from his seven year old sister and wounding many other people right there around that backpack Now before we wrap this clip up what I think what i think i'm hearing

2:54:19 What I think i'm hearing is they don't actually have the shot of the backpack exploding. Sounds like they should it sounds like they don't see I thought he put in a garbage can and that thought that whole thing was about the Thing being in a garbage. Yeah, no this so it's not in the garbage is the story Yes And but listen to what he says He says the damning evidence they have is an explosion happens Everyone looks except for the sarnaf boy and then earlier in the tape They have him putting a backpack on the ground But for some reason I don't think they have the backpack exploding on video which is why we have not seen it yet and the question is... That was the Eureka moment. And frankly, were told that it's so horrific that they literally watched it 400 times to make sure they understood what was going on but it took a toll on everyone including the director of FBI when he saw it What do you mean by toll?

2:55:19 Charlie, after the bomb explodes and you see what is left there of the people who were standing around the backpack. It's a horrific scene particularly because they're children. Stephanie Douglas describes in our 60 Minutes story that there is a man on fire his clothes are on fire and a police officer leaps on him with his bare hands and puts the fire out with his bare hands with no concern for his own safety and it's apparently an incredibly moving video. It is not likely to be seen by anyone until the trial." Ah, okay! So I want to tell you something about American television... If this video was available if law enforcement had this video it would be on TV now

2:56:09 I agree with that. Also, if there was a guy on fire running around somebody would have filmed it and it would have been on YouTube Yes And they changed the story from the garbage can which they can't seem to find a video of him dropping in the garbage can To now its just left on the street casually Which is a problem as far as I can tell It's just no...it's not a... It's not credible They're building the narrative They're building the story. One more thing, one more thing... the horrendous aspect of it that we can't see, that's why you haven't seen it because they're so horrible. It harkens back to the 911 tapes about Sandy Hook which nobody would play We played those tapes on this show Yeah and how horrible were they? There was nothing on them! There was nothing! Nothing a teacher had... Hey Bill what are ya doing I don't know there is some guy roaming around with a gun Teacher was shot in the foot Why didn't you go ask him what he's doing?! I'm the custodian

2:57:12 Yeah. So that's a lie? And then the tape will never be shown, it is going to be shown in a closed court setting you'll have what we'll have is a drawing of people watching the video in court with their hand to their mouth like Hillary in The Situation Room. We will not see the video because this is a lie! Yeah they would have been played over and over again And why would you watch it 400 times? What is that even make any sense we watched it a bunch of people watched it 400 times. That is to build the story that the people who count, the people who call the shots in this country they know but you don't need to know because you can't handle

2:58:05 You can't handle Osama Bin Laden's pictures of him dead. You can't handle that. The 9-1-1 tapes from Sandy Hook. No, you can't handle that. You slave... Although a child by the time the child is of age has seen more murders and killings on television than actually occur in their own town for real. You can't handle it! Shut up slave trust us we're the government We're here protecting your privacy and your freedom And you can't, but we watched it 400 times just to make sure it's those guys. Justice is served! And otherwise this is the best country in the world I wouldn't want to live anywhere else I have to say. But I've lived in a couple of other countries and like this one the best because at least I'm armed here. Hey-o! And...I'm gonna go back to callin' CQ on 12 meters as KiloFox5's Shia Lebeouf November. I think I'll do some CW

2:59:10 Good for you. Yeah, and I think you should always be on the CW. I'm always on the CWS We're gonna do another show on Thursday The club sounds like the club will open on Thursday So we look forward to seeing all of you there with some support for us We'd like to see that donor segment a little bit longer don't mind and with that I say kittens encourage Coming to you from FEMA region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state in the morning I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where i remain, I am John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda Bitch! Look it up its science That's one hot roast baby BOOTY The best podcast in the universe Dvorak dot org slash n a