Episode 588 · Wednesday, 5 February 2014

Velveeta Shortage!

Federal snipers descend on the Super Bowl while a manufactured Velveeta shortage masks a deeper crisis in global finance and NSA surveillance overreach.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 33m listen | 38 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 588

About this episode

The National Football League faces scrutiny as Super Bowl XLVIII is designated a Level 1 National Security Event, triggering massive federal spending and a sniper presence at MetLife Stadium. Rudy Giuliani and UK Prime Minister David Cameron defend the expansion of surveillance metadata while Customs and Border Protection agents hunt down counterfeit merchandise. The hosts apply a socio-economic model to the Denver Broncos and Seattle Seahawks matchup, suggesting a victory for the Pacific Northwest could pacify labor unrest following the Boeing machinist union disputes.

NPR is accused of running native advertising for Kraft after a four-minute segment on a Velveeta shortage was traced back to the company’s own Tumblr page. Meanwhile, a cluster of three high-profile banker suicides coincides with Janet Yellen taking the helm at the Federal Reserve. Edward Snowden’s recent German television interview suggests he possesses compromising wiretap data on federal judges and President Obama, while the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board declares NSA surveillance unconstitutional in a report largely ignored by mainstream outlets.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak experiment with rain stick superstitions to end the California drought while critiquing the 'Stoner Bowl' media narrative. The duo performs a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Adriaan of the Netherlands and explores the bizarre history of transhumanist philosopher FM-2030. Between analyzing Kristen Bell’s performance in House of Lies and debunking Glenn Beck’s crack pipe stories, the program remains the primary source for deconstructing the Cheesepocalypse.


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CHAPTER 01 / 38 Discussion

Rain Stick Superstition, California Drought, and Podcast Audience Estimates

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program discussing the perceived effectiveness of rain sticks sent by a producer in Utah, noting simultaneous rainfall in Austin and California. The hosts critique traditional media metrics like Nielsen and Arbitron while attempting to estimate their own audience size. They settle on a guesstimate of 100,000 to 150,000 listeners based on mailing list engagement and public recognition.

adam curry· john c dvorak· rain stick· austin· california· nielsen· podcast metrics

00:00 I can't with authority answer that question. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorak It's Sunday February 2nd 2014 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 588 This is no agenda Predicting large sporting events since 1906 from FEMA region 6 here in the Travis Heights hideout, Austin Texas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and for Northern Silicon Valley where it's finally raining and it's actually raining. I'm John C Dvorak You know I have received so many emails about the rain stick

00:39 Let's do it again. But the drawback is, it's raining in Austin now too! It hadn't rained for months in California we shake these damn rain sticks you know how many people because this kind of goes along with with karma as well A large amount of people, maybe just people who when they request karma where it doesn't work. They just don't tell us about it. Oh they tell us but not often I mean do we? I can count on one hand the amount of times someone has requested karma and it didn't work out Yeah well does happen though

01:25 But this rain stick thing is a little scary. And so the question is, how many people... This is the weird thing about our show? By the way do you know who sent us these rain sticks? Yes! The producer from Utah. Sherry. Do you think she's actually in Utah? I received them from her when we were in Utah You sure that was her? Well, who knows. Utah can be weird Anyway, go on. So of course because we don't have advertisements so we don't have to have some kind of rating or a GRP or a CUME or a share... We don't need to prove to any advertisers screw Arbitron! Which is by the way now folded into Nielsen. So we don't need to say oh we have X amount people listening and last night Miss Mickey and I were at a benefit thing here in Austin

02:24 And you know and of course I was like, oh what do you do? And then you know Mickey's an artist. And I said what do you do? You know and he helped me out like... I really don't know. Just, I'm so tired of telling... If they don't know who I am because they're too young usually then I just make something up but when they finally find out about the podcast So how many people listen to the podcast? You know, I really don't know and it's not a good answer for most people 10 million people! It makes it sound like man this hot woman has got some weird guy sitting in the closet with a microphone Does she know what she's married to

03:02 But, but how do we have any idea? How many people can you guesstimate because somehow the collective thought I believe when we do it's like when you pray to God. I don't think that really works that well because you're throwing your thing into the air and some third of the party to the mix as a lot of messages going on tomorrow busy right now. I got Syria to deal with And, uh... but you know when it's the podcast and I think that somehow electronically it comes into your head and then maybe you're thinking about it. Maybe somehow that has some effect but what do you think? Is is a 10 thousand 20 thousand? No its way beyond that. It is beyond that yeah. Based on the kind of numbers we get responses in people who actually sign up for the mailing list which isn't always going to be about the mailing lists will be guessing around ten percent five to ten percent as a total

03:55 because that's all, you know nobody else is listening. They don't donate they don't do anything You basically gave me no answer other than well we're a percentage I'm guessing about 100 thousand to 150 thousand Really? That's it? That's it A moderate number and thats also based on the number of people out in the blue that say in the morning to ya on the streets of any city Yeah but thats not really fair In Austin its just continuous I had guy like almost fall off his bike the other day In the morning. Yeah, yeah. Hmm 100-150 thousand that's probably about right? That's my guess and I think it's about a valid number based on the kind of...I mean if you take every all the variables that's about what it sounds like hmm I'd like to be bigger

04:48 Guess what she says we are I mean it's possible We have it, but that means that if we're bigger than that That means that people are not contributing very much right It would actually be bad If we if we do bad is it that people don't you know the number of people that actually contribute to this show? Support the show and produce this show or really just super my bonus. Yeah Hmm okay well for some reason this rain stick thing seems to work You have to admit That's kind of freaky Don't do too much, then you'll have too much water. Can you abuse the rain stick? I think so did you not? You took the course yeah well you know we're licensed Licensed Rain Stick Operators Operators Operators Hold on a second We have not tweeted this is what happens when you when you having too much fun Operators Yeah we are rains that's where we are were rainstick we are licensed rain stick anymore What

05:46 People generally don't think of you, I mean they do the dance and pray for rain and all the rest of it but a rain stick is in old proven way. And what's funny is kids today still make rain sticks at school well if they have any arts music and its made as musical instrument not as an instrument weather modification which is how the way should be taught Yeah, it's like the water witching. People make a lot of fun about it but those guys that actually do that use that technique and find water all the time Well I think there is something to it and regardless whether you want to believe or not and I think your kind on board It's working! How many months? It didn't rain for months And then for two shows in a row we'd shake the rain stick and its raining In California AND Austin

06:36 Yeah, come on. We need the rain here and it would have weird thing about this particular storm Which was not predicted until last night when it's all of a sudden showed up on the radar as like almost like a Cloudbuster phenomenon from Wilhelm right yep Just showed up off the coast over by Eureka And then came down here and blasted us It was nice rainstorm last night still raining is we should good oh But that's only Northern California and I think Southern California still needs help. They don't have a rain sticker. Yeah, they're bad their loss Today of course in the United States for those of you listening on the podcast You probably already know the outcome And so now we just want to hear what are they going to predict with many large sporting events which were pretty convinced most of the big ones are rigged

CHAPTER 02 / 38 Discussion

Super Bowl XLVIII Rigging Theories and Socio-Economic Prediction Model

The discussion shifts to the upcoming Super Bowl XLVIII between the Denver Broncos and the Seattle Seahawks, with the hosts expressing skepticism regarding the integrity of professional sports. They reference FIFA lawsuits as evidence of global match-fixing and apply their "socio-economic model" to predict the winner. While initial indicators favored Denver due to local tragedies, a new focus on Seattle's labor issues emerges.

super bowl· nfl· seattle seahawks· denver broncos· match rigging· fifa· socio-economics

07:29 Certainly World Cup soccer, all of soccer seems to be rigged these days if you look at the FIFA lawsuits. Basketball seems to be pretty rigged Baseball we've never really done anything with baseball have we? I don't know how easy it is to... Baseball has been rigged in the past but it's harder It's a hard game to rig because it's pretty uh..it's just a complex game to rig Yeah Unless you have some...I mean I remember during a World Series when The Umpire was calling strikes and balls. Yeah, you got to rig the umpire though that's a little harder yeah so the Super Bowl of course football American football is it's a beautiful game it's really been tailored for television I'd say if suits the television system perfectly It is some of the best produced television ever which is why it is THE game that I watch

08:23 It's me. Yeah, I watch for the commercial now. I really watch for the game I am sometimes blown away by the production values particularly in HD it's just Incredibly beautiful everything is beautiful that you know The uniforms are beautiful the men's butts are tight is everything is great cheerleaders are pretty cheerleaders are rocking Just everything is good. It's Titan we did today We have Bruno Mars performing the halftime they got some opera singer doing the the national anthem, which is yeah I think that's new. It was a tribute to the No Agenda show So we have been pretty good i think dead on just about every single time with predicting the winner based upon socio-economic issues in the team's place of origin am I saying that correctly? That's pretty close yeah and I've had this lurking feeling

09:19 That is good that Seattle and so we have the Denver Broncos and the Seattle Seahawks playing. And I've had this feeling deep in the pit of my stomach for two days, two weeks now about that it's everything points to the Broncos because oh man where do we start with uh... With the flooding in Colorado with the shootings in Colorado Of course The weed thing is interesting And so I've been looking for a way to fit Seattle winning into our model for awhile and... It's called shoehorning. Yeah, maybe? Maybe? Um

CHAPTER 03 / 38 Discussion

Marijuana Legalization and the "Stoner Bowl" Media Narrative

Media coverage branding the Super Bowl as the "Stoner Bowl" is analyzed, highlighting that both competing teams hail from states with legalized recreational marijuana. A CNN segment featuring Broncos-themed bongs and marijuana strains is critiqued for factual inaccuracies regarding Washington's legal status. The hosts also discuss the use of cannabis by NFL players as an alternative to addictive opioids for pain management.

marijuana· colorado· washington· cnn· brian gumbel· pain relief· nfl players

10:02 So the fact that this is the, what is it? The weed bowl or what are they calling it because both... The butt bowl. The broach bowl I don't know. This was the path that was on first and then I got steered into a different direction listen to this People will call it the stoner bowl. Yeah, yeah, stoner bowl there you go. My personal favorite, the super newbie bowl That's super doobie boo. What is this, Fox? No! This is CNN with the cute girl... Oh what's her name Think she's a doctor or something. She's very cute Very very funny segment this Super Bowl Sunday the pot punning will be in full effect as teams from the first two states to legalize recreational marijuana Washington and Colorado face off against each other on Sunday It is the Seattle Seahawks versus the Denver Broncos and the average Super Bowl party could get a lot more interesting think about it bigger labs

10:57 laughs, better appetites and also more conversations about trying to think the halftime show with the dark side of the moon. In Colorado marijuana dispensaries are selling blue and orange bronco themed bongs and marijuana strains including Orange Crush. Don't you love American ingenuity? The American entrepreneur is unparalleled anywhere in the world, ladies and gentlemen. And in Washington even though pot is not technically legal yet... Now this where I was thinking, Is that true? Is it not technically legal in Washington? No It's been legalized Why would she say that? Is recreational pot now legalized? No! Recreational Pot has been legalized. Why would she say that?! I think she's mistaken the fact that the state itself has not

11:42 put into play any rules or regulations about it so a sense, so de facto it's not legal but you can't really buy illegally. Okay we'll see that well there... So I was thinking well what we could after this she actually she brought on an former tight end for the Broncos and he went into this whole rap about how so many football players and of course he was referring to the Broncos use marijuana for pain relief And I'm like, well okay. So this would be a way to say the Broncos lost because they were too stoned?

12:19 And because you know they have the legal stuff and... Man, you are really got something on here today. Talk about stoned! Now there a couple of people trying to help me out with these theories. For one thing the Broncos players aren't a bunch of stoners themselves so they won't be too stoned to win The second thing is that a lot of players across the league apparently this has been documented quite a bit in some of these sports shows Especially Brian Gumbel's Real Sports. He's the one who really rolled out a special on it They're all using it because these other guys are taking these addictive horrible Morphine directly and they find that smoking dope is better, yeah Well that was kind of the point of that item

CHAPTER 04 / 38 Discussion

Boeing Labor Disputes and Paul Allen's 12th Man 747

A theory is proposed that a Seattle Seahawks victory would serve to boost morale in Washington following a contentious contract dispute between Boeing and the machinists union. The hosts discuss the importance of the aerospace industry to the region and the symbolic power of Paul Allen's custom-painted "12th Man" Boeing 747. They suggest the elite may use the game to pacify a depressed workforce.

boeing· seattle· paul allen· machinists union· 747· labor contract· chicago

13:04 You know, some producers around the world are trying to help me figure out if somehow my hunch is right. And see I got a email from John Tucker he says of course on the 31st of January we have the Chinese New Year started with The Year Of The Horse that would of course... I was listening to Van Cat and according to the French it's and i never heard this before around here and you know we have a huge Chinese population They call it the Year of the Wooden Horse. Huh? I found that peculiar, and I don't know if I have a clip of it but The woman says that this is the Chinese New Year though year of the wooden horse! I don't see it on your list That's probably not...I probably didn't clip it Well of course if its a horse then you'd have to think Broncos would be the way to go obviously Oh right Duh But

13:56 Producer... Don't you have another nail in your coffin? Producer Ricky Lee came in, I think with a very good fit for the model. So of course we have one huge... For anti-model you mean? No to put Seattle into the model for the win Of course we have a huge company in Seattle which is Boeing And Boeing is very, very important to the United States in general. But there have... it was at a certain point there was even talk of Boeing leaving Seattle. It's actually an effort with the headquarters in Chicago. Yeah I know and that's pointed out but you know the work has done in Seattle and they had a huge contract dispute with the machinists

14:52 And they barely, I think it was like a 50.5 or 51% of the vote... They passed this contract but the machinists are still all pissed and there's just all kinds of anger roaming around and i'm thinking in order to smooth that over so we can continue to make kick-ass war planes because it's not really about you know just commercial planes That would be a reason to distract everybody. We can't have Seattle getting more depressed, that's for sure because it's tens of thousands of jobs and it feels better than any other thing from Denver quite honestly It's a real socio-economic issue

15:41 This has never been in play for the last seven years we've been doing this show. This model that you create, this labor dispute... What do you mean? ...and let's make them feel better... Yeah! That is what it has always been about. What are you talking about?! It's always been about making people feel better. It's always about making people feel better but not because they're in a union or they have been beat up or their country is in desperate straits or something like that now Okay, I just stick with this idea and we'll see what happens. We'll know later today And also they have a they they have the 12th man 747 if you seen it Paul Allen, you know When you got money isn't it beautiful the things you can do yeah Hey Let me rent one of those planes all painted It cost millions of dollars to paint a plane that big and also I think just because it's Paul Allen

16:35 I think just so the elites also make Paul Allen a happy guy. Yeah, did the elite depressed? The elites also know and just need to show everybody who's boss Really that would change the model but i think you might be under something with that Just watch what i can do watch! I can paint up 747 and fly it around with nobody in it but me And screw you peons Yes we're gonna win this game by some sort form of corruption You'll never understand Power outage my favorite I got a report from the Super Bowl which i thought was kind of...I found it actually kind of uh, I wouldn't go to the game after hearing this report. I think I have a similar reporter. Olympics and Sochi ummm..i know security's always been a top concern. That was my business! It still is yeah. What is this? The guy from Blackwater who is this? No that's Giuliani

CHAPTER 05 / 38 Discussion

Super Bowl Security, Rudy Giuliani, and David Cameron on Metadata

Rudy Giuliani's comments regarding the heavy presence of snipers at MetLife Stadium are scrutinized, with the hosts questioning the tactical utility of snipers against bomb threats. This leads to a clip of UK Prime Minister David Cameron defending the collection of communications metadata. Cameron argues that "comms data" is essential for solving crimes, drawing parallels to how investigations are portrayed in television dramas.

rudy giuliani· david cameron· snipers· metlife stadium· surveillance· metadata· terrorism

17:28 Yeah, the guy from Blackwater exactly is the danger lessened after 9-11 or The dangerous is always gonna be there right the dangerous worse and it's the unexpected. It's what is wrong with his speech? We're having a huge trucker like this or some something was weird with No no Something's weird with his, somethings going on with his mouth. The one-off it's the one you don't think of like the Boston Marathon Look nobody can give a hundred percent guarantee This is pretty close to it this and in New Jersey The combination the security they've been working on this for three four or five years Kelly now Bratton all the people in New Jersey Chris Christie These are really good snipers in the studio In the stadium! See that dot on your head Giuliani

18:16 of them believe me I know we had you know more than a number yeah no I got a better security report than that. Wait a minute, hold on before you cut mine off it's over the place is crawling with snipers would you go to a football game with and the word was a lot of them? Yeah it makes you feel good. So the stadiums crawling with snipers you just don't think that's even interesting? Don't yeah no it's very interesting Don't make a sudden move. I think it's dangerous! What are the snipers going to do? Hold on a second, let's say you set off a bomb... Yeah? The fuck is the snipers gonna do?! Shoot you!? Well no, the bomb would just blow up and your not even in the stadium by now You really don't understand how it works do ya

19:03 Well, I'll tell you... What? We're a bunch of snipers in here. Alright, alright! I'm gonna jump around. I wasn't going to use this clip right now but you Mr. Oh I got the sniper clip. I'm gonna have to pull it out stand back as we have the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom who had to become come before some congressional session parliament thingy where they all sit like in school desks those guys don't know how to do theater So they sit in a little semi-circle and they question the Prime Minister, and here he is explaining exactly why you at least need to have this thought of having snipers or something around. But I'm absolutely convinced that proper rules for communications data is essential, and I don't think we got across to people yet

19:55 the absolute basics of this, which is in most of the serious crimes and child abductions, comms data – who called who and when? And where was the telephone at that time? Not the content of a call. The communications data is absolutely vital. I think we need the police chiefs, investigators and others and the politicians explaining what this is about. I mean i love watching as i probably should stop telling people you know crime dramas on the television there's hardly a crime drama where crime is solved without using the data of a mobile communications device and that's not about the content. There you go he knows how it works people see stuff on television and they think that that's how it really works well apparently he's one of them yes

20:42 But that's the whole point. Of course snipers are ridiculous, because you know you're not gonna say well maybe if you see the guy and he's carrying a bag that says bomb on it You know the one. Hey, June! You got my bags ready to go? Yes, where's the bomb?! It's got bomb written on it you idiot! Okay I've got it Perhaps he is carrying a picture like the one Netanyahu Prime Minister of Israel showed at the United Nations with the actual drawing of the bomb with the fuse lit Yeah if your walking around MetLife Stadium with that yeah you might get sniped

CHAPTER 06 / 38 Discussion

NFL Tax-Exempt Status and Level 1 National Security Designations

The hosts investigate the Department of Homeland Security's "Level 1 National Security Event" designation for the Super Bowl, concluding it may be a fabricated or misapplied term. A major point of contention is the NFL's status as a 501(c)(6) non-profit organization, which allows the league office to remain tax-exempt. They contrast this tax status with the billions in revenue generated and the cutting of federal food stamp subsidies.

nfl· 501c6· tax-exempt· department of homeland security· fema· internal revenue code

21:22 I think they need to, i'm happy with my clip. Your clip was fine John. I'm just-I'm happy that mine put a rating on it. By the way they're just protecting this franchise They're not protecting you, you stupid shit-a-son. That's actually that was it's true they are protected They're protecting the franchise okay We can't ruin the franchise 48 The Department of Homeland Security is declaring Sunday's game in New Jersey a level one national security event We number one we made it to level 1

22:06 Now I wonder if is level one the top you can get? Is that like the highest rating you can get? It has to be. Or or is that just... Let's take a look, let's check the book of knowledge. Or is that a starter rating? Yeah I got 20 more seconds on the clip you check the book of knowledge. Level 1 security what? No it's a level one national security event USA!

22:58 You figured out? I think they're just making it up. I've never even heard of this. I'm telling you, I think you might be right! It is a level one national security event...I don't know what that- I mean look- I'm not finding it as in the literature where as it should show up. I see it quoted. I see people saying it. Hmm But I don't see any evidence that it's an actual true designation. Here is the CBS New York report. There is a lot of interesting stuff when you really look into the Super Bowl, A lot of people may not know that all professional football, The league... It's all non-profit! It's all charity They don't pay any taxes You know this right John? No I'm not going to say whatever you're gonna say Oh you didn't know this?!

23:50 Oh, as a 501c... Sounds like a hoax. No! Go to Snopes bitch As a 501C6 corporation It's dude not bitch Dude? Well you must not have watched a lot of Breaking Bad otherwise you would know better Um it is yeah all professional football is tax exempt I can't believe you didn't know this I'm fine with it go on with your story Really?! You're fine with it No, I'm fine with not knowing this. Just talk! Really? I was hoping you would respond... I'm responding by listening That's the statement it's tax-exempt while we are cutting farm subsidies in in the manner of six billion dollars for food stamps there's guys making twenty nine million dollars a year in a tax exempt charity known as The Franchise

24:50 This doesn't sound right. I'm going to have to look into this Oh, by the way, I said I was still looking for this level one bullcrap I'm not seeing a level 1 national security event anywhere in the government Databases they just made this up The last time the NFL paid taxes was 1966 when are you reading this from? An article let me say It's in my... The Onion? This is, uh, I don't know. Credo. Doesn't really matter. You know what, I've known this! It just never- it wasn't Super Bowl time so now i figured to bring it up. 1966 when lobbyists convinced Congress to pass an obscure provision that expanded the definition of 501c6 not for profit organizations in the Internal Revenue Code to include professional football leagues yeah

CHAPTER 07 / 38 Discussion

Counterfeit Merchandise Crackdowns and FEMA Incident Complexity Levels

Criticism is leveled at the use of federal resources, including Customs and Border Protection, to hunt down counterfeit NFL merchandise. The hosts argue that taxpayers are "shafted twice" by building stadiums and then funding the protection of private trademarks. They eventually find FEMA documentation clarifying that "Type 1" (often misreported as Level 1) refers to incident complexity requiring over 500 personnel.

nfl· homeland security· trademarks· counterfeit· fema· incident command

25:54 It's pretty outrageous. It's outrageous! But what I find even more outrageous is we spend, of course you're seeing the stories everywhere countless millions maybe tens or hundreds of millions of dollars with the Department of Homeland Security and the Customs and Border Protection dudes for counterfeit NFL merchandise So not only do they not pay into the government any of the billions of dollars that are made, but we actually take our resources to go and hunt down fake t-shirts. So the taxpayer is getting shafted twice? Here's what you're saying... You're saying these douchebags, these elites, elites that own these teams aren't paying anything into the coffers

26:51 pave the roads and do the things that are necessary because for example you need to pave the roads to the stadiums, and the taxpayers by the way build most of the stadiums. These guys take the money and then demand that we go even further and become a police force yes protect their trademarks which shouldn't even be it should be public domain it seems to me thank you Now I'm not... Well, I am appalled. Now on the other hand, I can see what the Super Bowl does, I can see all of the commerce and you know, there's a lot of money that flows around and there is nothing- There is all good that comes from it. Good? But!

27:31 I think at this point in time with all the money that's being made it wouldn't be a huge issue for them to kick in some extra dough. Especially when we're talking about... Wait let me give you the right phrase, to pay their fair share! Oh yes well this is all about income inequality John so while were at it Mr President Mr. and Mrs. Congress, while we're talking about income inequality why don't we start with the football leagues kicking in some dough? They got to be doing a billion each! Can I mention something here that would kind of resolve this instantly? Wealth tax. Here it comes! How did you guess?! Drink everybody, drink! Because the football franchises have a net value because they're traded like stocks people will buy a franchise and sell to somebody else they have a net value and they tend to be owned by a group of shareholders or sometimes one individual as in the case of The Dallas Cowboys i believe yeah

28:32 It would all be resolved by a wealth tax. A wealth tax just boom, there's your tax and it's in... And by the way while were at it I'm pretty sure we can do exactly the same for the IOC and all the regional Olympic committees. I'm pretty sure those douchebags are tax exempt as well Oh yeah? Are you kidding? Yeah They probably perfected the idea But no instead slaves like us well not like us but will pay hundreds if not thousands of dollars for ticket We're not doing that. We're not quite in that league. I did go to a Super Bowl once and the ticket was $100, it was high. I'm surprised you didn't know that though John... No! Well you can be surprised all you want there's- I'm gonna break something to this to the listeners right now Oh i don't know if we are ready for it. I know everything You think about football you'd know this? It's fine to pretend I do but I don't And you get away with it which is why it's so surprising

29:30 Yes, exactly. I'm shocked myself! Alright here we go apparently this is a FEMA rating Thank you very much Freedom Northwest who emailed this Here are the designators Incident Complexity So type 1 So this says type, not level. I'm already suspicious but let's just say someone messed up and it's Type 1 instead of Level 1. Everyone said level! This is from FEMA. Op- what does that mean? Operations personnel often exceed 500 per operational period and total personnel usually exceed a thousand. Yeah, we're on board with that. Branches need to be established definitely A written incident plan action plan is required I'm sure we have that The agency administrator will have briefings yeah Okay Let me see what five is if that's tougher No the incident can be handled with one or two single resources with up to six personnel now So one is so one is the top We are number one

30:32 I think they could, if somebody was really credible they'd make it level zero. It could still happen? No there's somebody put this...this is like probably taken from the FEMA idea it's taken from the remember the old yellow red alert green yeah orange orange security level orange threat level warnings of course threat levels yes same thing Yes, this is from the same playbook. It's a play... somebody just threw it in there I would like to find some documentation that this specific thing level one national security event Yeah that is what we have not found and we won't because its bullcrap makes for a good story

CHAPTER 08 / 38 Discussion

NPR Velveeta Shortage Story and Native Advertising Critique

An NPR story regarding a "Cheesepocalypse" or Velveeta shortage is deconstructed as a blatant example of native advertising. The hosts point out that the source of the story was Kraft's own Tumblr page, launched during "Advertiser Week." They estimate the value of such a four-minute "earned media" segment on national public radio to be between $50,000 and $150,000.

npr· velveeta· kraft· native advertising· public radio· pr agency· ad rates

31:16 Anyway, all right on this we get a job. The game is gonna be played later today people can watch and watch the ads And we can watch the deconstruction of the ads over the next two or three days Wait wait because we're gonna of course thank our executive producers for the show which is how we do it Now when you have other models in broadcasting such as the public broadcast system, which is a public television. This was Sesame Street came from and this is where we have the PBS News Hour and then McLair stuff and then Gwen Ifill and everyone's all proper! They have commercials every 15 minutes Then we have our national treasure NPR National Public Radio And they of course need to get some of that native advertising in

32:08 Because it's what all the advertisers want these days, native advertising. And they know how to do it! Making a turn here despite all the controversy around football right now It is still the most watched sport in the US which means you might be... That by the way is not true NASCAR is the most watched sport but One of the millions of people who plan to catch a playoff game this weekend, but if you live on the East Coast and are hoping to dig into some chili con queso or maybe some mac and cheese. You might run into a problem there's a Velveeta shortage how can this be? You ask And what does it mean well here to tell us more about what Velveeta means to us is Adrian Miller he's author of soul food The Surprising Story Of An American Cuisine one plate at a time

32:50 Now, I've got to give you a little bit of backstory to this because this so-called Velveeta shortage... This started in advertiser week. This is where the story was launched three weeks ago It didn't really get the play but i guess that the buy wasn't in yet or whatever they hadn't quite done Done the deal and listen to how serious they're really talking about it Yeah maybe tongue-in-cheek because Of course if you're a serious journalist You don't actually want your colleagues To know that you kind of know what's going on But for casual listener. It's a story! Thanks so much for joining us once again Thank you for having me on the show to discuss this extremely important topic Are you in mourning? That is the giveaway Yeah, are you very upset... well we're on the west coast so this might not be affecting you but yeah no I checked those grocery stores were stocked with Velveeta so much like we did in the 70s Okay right now he saying We got Velveeta out here but she's going to give us the journalistic source

33:45 That is the nucleus of this story on your national public radio, which some people actually send their money to for this kind of quality reporting. As a public service we're willing to provide... you know we provided Coors Beer back then so you know we can provide some Velveeta You're willing to share the Velveeta? Well Kraft, which makes Velveta does confirm on its Tumblr page that there actually is A shortage, do we think? So the source for this story is the actual manufacturer i.e advertiser who confirmed on their tumblr page Okay I know it's early in the game and there's probably some great stuff coming up And you haven't gotten this for a while That IS clip of the day

34:28 Isn't it unbelievable? The level they were stooped to. We've confirmed the story. I can't believe it! From the advertiser themselves! They're serving these people! Okay, turn in your license... What do you think that's worth? To do a native ad story like that for Velveeta? That's got to be worth some dough If it was on NPR National It's probably worth let's see The advertising rate would be for This is a four minute story John! I'd say $50-$150 thousand dollars This was a four minute story

35:22 Oh, it's a four-minutes story? Yeah. I'd say at least 100 grand. Well anyway... That's why you know they got good PR agencies if they can pull off something like that which is obviously came from a PR agency whoever is running Kraft Agency one of the big boys It's gotta be BBDO or some one of those guys Yes well they're all part of the same group three groups Two now! It's only two groups No there's Publicis no no they merge with Omnicom I thought Publicis was independent WPP is still independent Well, no. WPP is the competitor with Omnicom Yeah so it's... yeah but But Publicis was there's a third there's a little group out of Europe I think is still independent and there's all still a lot of little independent agencies that they're trying to build up so they get bought out by one of the two big guys Publicis was merged into Omnicom last year Okay Now you're absolutely correct because there is of course the Curry-Dvorak consulting group

CHAPTER 09 / 38 Discussion

No Agenda Art Generator Guidelines and Visual Branding

The hosts provide feedback to the "producers" (listeners) who submit artwork to the No Agenda Art Generator. They emphasize the need for high-contrast, readable typography and the omission of specific episode numbers to ensure the art's longevity. They also explain the transition away from using host photos in favor of conceptual art that better represents the show's themes.

no agenda art· podcast art· branding· graphic design· album art· donations

36:19 We haven't been bought. No, no but who still... that's what I mean who are still independent and available? Yeah yeah And did you if you look at the um let's see where is it there is a uh do you know real sex the HBO series? Yeah Episode number 33 The title of the episode Stocks down sex up I mean come on man we're good Well in the morning to you John C. Dvorak, In the morning to you Mr Adam Curry and all the ships at sea and all the boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there And in the morning to all of our human resources in the chatroom noagendastream.com noagendachat.net Thank you very much to our artists as usual great work

37:11 From Mr. Martin JJ returning into the fold, noagendaartgenerator.com That's where you can upload your submissions We need to remind our artists of a few things Yeah Oh that's right we keep forgetting to remind them Let's remind them now I'm reminding YOU to remind them We have a number of... John's kind of like my Pavlovian dog. I ring the bell! We have a number of issues with some art you have to be aware of one do not put this show number on the art because that means we can never use that again in the future if we pass on it one week and want to use it the next so that doesn't work but more importantly is the size of the type, It has to be big enough So go look at noagendashow.com

37:55 Look at Adam Adam shrinks his art for the 50% I shrink it down 50 percent if you cannot read the type At that size we're not gonna use the art and that's just never gonna happen in the art by By the way, is mainly used and it's getting harder and harder to actually make it show up in the podcast Catchers & The Players so that when you're playing the episode You have the brand new art which as we know actually creates more donations To the show when we have good art And it shows up So we have...which of course yeah yes it's the album art yeah so it needs to be readable and it doesn't mean you have to have huge, it just has to be readable like white on black would be useful. You know red on black is frowned upon.

38:46 And and we do not use our pictures. We went the first year to two years Yeah of Alton bar was just the two of us people had variations on the two of a goofballs and we were in all The art and the end result is there's this one picture of the two of us when 100 years after our death Stuck that's what we will look like that'll be us like a Rembrandt That's at one, but that's him even though he probably looked completely different yeah Yes, so we don't use any of that Under any circumstances because we you there's at least 100 or 200 pieces of it already and when somebody I think along the way We were you know everywhere when we were picking the art And then somebody decided to just drop the two of us and it was funnier much better That's it. And that would get that moment? I can't remember which artists It was but we just switched

39:36 off the old model and we went with the new standalone art that has more to do with the show and less to do with us. And also, we want original art now you can modify things particularly if it's done in jest if you're making fun of something ie a parody but in general we'd like to have some kind of new stuff Yeah, and that's why people who are actual there are we do have some graphic artists Professionals out there that occasionally come in with a piece of cool art We usually gobble that up because it's pretty it's always so good. I agree now right now That being the big that being the big wind-up. We're back in our yo-yo formation

CHAPTER 10 / 38 Discussion

Newsletter Strategy, Kittens vs. Puppies, and A-B Testing

A discussion on the weekly email newsletter focuses on the use of "cute" imagery to drive engagement. One host describes the success of including kitten photos and contemplates switching to puppies to see if it impacts donation levels. They briefly discuss the technical limitations of A-B testing within MailChimp for this specific purpose.

mailchimp· email newsletter· a-b testing· kittens· puppies· marketing· constant contact

40:20 Yes, we have another Sunday with not much interest in support or contributions. I think it was lack of kittens in your newsletter personally I don't run my personal letter on Saturday to have to promote kittens. Kittens only show up on the major newsletters, out of kittens by the way! There's a shortage of kittens... The newsletter you put together it is it is a piece of art. You always send me the text and I'll comment or maybe be spelling correction there's not much usually it's always good-to-go

40:59 But when it comes in, I'm always happy to look at it because the art you put in is fabulous. It really makes it nice and I'm a big fan of email newsletters which Gmail thinks its promotion Thank you. Not that I use Gmail, but as a point of reference like the spin place they do a Sunday newsletter and it's really creative It's pretty you know and I think they use constant contact which is a competitor to what we're doing where we use MailChimp, but it's nice. I like it! It's a beautiful little novelette, an email giblet coming in and I like reading it. And even though I've read the text, I still like looking at what pictures you select and its funny. Kudos to you my friend. Good work. Thank you very much and I do my best to find art that matches somehow

41:53 and I try to find public domain art whenever i can of course that matches best what we're talking about in the case of the weekly newsletter. It came to mind a couple weeks back that I should put a kitten on the And I thought it was actually pertinent with the running, the cute little running kitten through the grass. I think one of greatest pictures ever best best ever that is a that is the highest quality of modern art and so then I decided to get another kitten then I got a third kit now I'm really in trouble because this next newsletter which will be coming out on Tuesday night or Wednesday

42:35 needs a kitten and I look and look, now I'm thinking of moving to puppies. Oh okay well the puppies are cute! Yeah puppies are cute? I don't know if that'll help the contribution level... Well let this be a study It's possible that people are burning out on that show when it comes to helping the Sunday Show Can we do an A-B test? Puppies vs Kittens No, I could do it. MailChimp does let you do A-B tests but they only let you do it on certain variables They don't have a puppies vs kitten model that you can actually make work In other words, you have two separate newsletters One with the puppy and one with the kittens

43:18 Wow. The level we sink to, John. Hey let's thank some people... We do what we have to do! Let's thank some people who despite the lack of kittens... Two executive producers and two lone associate executive producers here for show 588 which is a nice number yeah and let's start with the special goodness from Canyon Lake California 333 33. Nice number thank you Greetings from Gitmo bro, Seth here in the ie of SoCal. I'm not sure what the ie means and The Inland Empire Oh the Inland Empire? I know Adam will be back when he tires of Tejas messing with him Yeah, yeah, I'm packed. I'm ready to go The show has really hit its stride and for the record GC as a spy is my favorite regardless of regardless of the toe-tappingness of call Clooney

CHAPTER 11 / 38 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Karma Requests, and Listener Feedback

The hosts read through donation notes from Executive and Associate Executive Producers, granting "karma" and "de-douching" requests. One donor from Brooklyn praises a recent argument between the hosts regarding Tom Perkins, noting that the debate helped clarify the facts. Another segment features a listener's request to hear a specific Italian clip, which is revealed to be a recording of a host's niece.

donations· value-for-value· karma· brooklyn· italy· dutch· tom perkins

44:16 Of course the question is... That's not the one he likes! No, I know. I know that's what I'm saying The question is should we? You have to please be the top guy here in the list along with Dennis Yeah something happened though I don't know where it is. Well you lost GC as a spy So here's my, this is Carl Clooney Now I'm alphabetical By the way he says to give us a karma The show a karma so we can hopefully do well Hold on hold on I'm trying to find this now You've got Karma This is very weird George Clooney as a spy has gone Oh isn't that interesting Which and its my favorite actually

45:11 Hey, this is weird. musician and he I think was making light of my toe-tapping commentary. Oh is this our Weezer man? Yeah, this is our drummer. He's coming to Austin in March so we're gonna have a drink yeah good yeah find out what he's up to well here's his answer drumming

45:47 I'm drumming. Hey, I need some drumming lessons! When he's up here in the Bay Area... Oh God okay all right you need to do so is this a brush-up or is it? Yeah, it's a brush up Dennis Nutting here in Hilo Hawaii who which is a great little place I wonder if you know I should ask him whether the old airport is still in the old Hilo Airport was one of the most quaint places in the world hmm I'm sure The closest thing to it I'd say is Long Beach. If you've ever been to that airport, it's a great place. Of course I've been to Long Beach! Great airport. Hello again John and Adam. It closes my second installment of 333-33. I think now I may deserve a de-douching? Absolutely. I am still behind in the value for value deal but i'm catching up. I have nothing witty to say except I would like to hear Lizzie

46:44 But now he mentions the clip that I don't believe is Lizzie, it's the other girl. I lived in Italy for nine years so hearing her speak in Italian... ...is a pleasure! So Adam pick one of her clips please you know that one where she- Yeah no that's actually my niece. That's his niece? Sabi. Sabi. Deducing an Asabi? Is that what he wants? Yeah when are we gonna- Oh sorry Thank you again for enduring courage, for your enduring courage and your hard work keeping us out of the fog of the news. Okay. Exactly. You've been de-douche'd! Shut up slave! Stancito, squabble! There ya go

47:29 You know, she's almost married now and we're still playing this clip. How old is she when she did that? I think she was five or six She's uh- She's almost married We haven't been doing the show that long She is beautiful by the way Oh my god Good! She's a beautiful little girl That makes sense She'll lead a nice easy life Oh yeah Particularly in Italy Yeah absolutely She can do a TV show on Saturday night Adrian Vernuge Vernoy Vernoy Adrian Vernoy in Hasselt. Adrian... Adrian... Vernoy... Vernoy... In Husselt! In Husselt?

48:12 Okay, good work 235 Finishing my knighthood a request to shot at karma for my brother Benjamin Benyamin Benya me there you go. Yeah looking forward to it on the beyond Karma You know the Dutch Really only donate just to hear you pronounce their name whatever works yeah, but I do have a I do have one of the systems that allows me to that Eric gave me for Christmas two Christmases ago and I just haven't cracked it. Maybe I should learn to get close... What, like a Rosetta Stone thing? I don't think so. I don't know if it's Rosetta Stone or the other guys. Finally Anonymous from Brooklyn New York $212 please mention is anonymous blah blah blah Please read as much as you can hopefully this gets me an EP credit yes It does so AEP

49:04 As I listen to show 587, had to instantly log on a PayPal and cancel my monthly 1111 subscription and change it to 3333. I'm also sending this separate $212 donation. I've been listening to no agenda for three years and today realized what was missing from the recent shows? I haven't heard a decent argument between you two for awhile we had one last week when he when Adam was going on and on defending the elites specifically Tom Perkins read his note don't don't editorialize just read his note Okay, I'm just saying. I was just correcting him Both of you providing your facts and analysis on the Perkins letter and arguing over them was amazing Yes amazing! I realize that you make us listeners understand the facts even better via... Obviously if i didn't rehearse these reads I would have noticed that

49:47 Even better via the debate here is your value for value more is coming through my monthly subscription and hopefully I will be a full night soon Requesting karma only since I already took up a lot of your valuable time. Ah Yes Thank you very much. I think you nailed it! Unfortunately, it didn't seem to work for everybody else. No, apparently not. You've got karma. What's that? It's in Brooklyn they're arguing all the time. Yeah, hey we're in Brooklyn... yeah exactly All right, so that's our four people for show 588 hopefully next Sunday. Sunday we can do better but the news marches on I want to thank them and remind everyone to go to Dvorak.org slash NA channel Dvorak dot com slash NA also the noagendashow.com and noagenadination.com both have donate buttons you can push And welcome to all the new listeners from the who's coming-to-dinner

CHAPTER 12 / 38 Discussion

No Agenda Community Projects, E-books, and App Updates

Several community-led initiatives are highlighted, including Scott McKenzie's new short story "Death by Autopen" and the release of No Agenda Droid 2.0 on Android platforms. The app now includes a live stream schedule and a jingle board. Additionally, a new URL forward, climateinequality.com, is praised for its satirical take on global climate politics.

scott mckenzie· no agenda droid· google play· amazon app store· climate inequality· ebooks

50:48 Benefit last night who I'm sure are all tuning into this program going what now these two boney is talking That's that's where that MTV guys doing. Oh, man He's really sunk low had me no wonder used to be famous no wonder he's in South Austin Like the bull rent No our neighborhood is what we call spotty John Spotty Hey, some PR mentions. Scott McKenzie author of course of One Day in Gitmo Nation and a Gitmo Nation Christmas Carol is back with the new Amazon Giblet! These are these little ebooks which we like to call giblets And his new one is called Death by Autopen and it's another no agenda short story We have the synopsis here

51:38 For many years, the White House has used a device called an autopen to automate the President's signature on all types of documentation. But behind closed doors, the autopen is used by presidential aides to create fake letters It's all fun and games until Washington journalist Andy McKenzie falls out with his White House staffer landlord who has just been put in charge...of The Kill List Death by Autopen is the latest short story in the Getmonation series. It's based on topics discussed on The No Agenda Show, hosted by Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak." How cool is that? It's extremely cool! And he sent us a copy... I haven't read it yet but- I really enjoyed his previous one, One Day In Getmonation was a good read! I really liked it Let's see... What happened to our comic book? I don't know. I didn't know we had one

52:30 Well, it was a couple years ago. About two and half years ago? Yeah well I can talk about a lot of great initiatives John that have fallen by the... People always find out it's really hard to keep up with us Yeah. In the morning, John Adams! We're not doing anything... I want to let you know and the listeners know about No Agenda Droid 2.0 which is now available on the Google and Amazon app stores You can listen to episodes read show notes listen to clips And new! New-new-new-new-new! NEW in 2.0 is a no agenda live stream page complete with schedule of upcoming shows Wow, Thursday Sunday. Thursday Sunday. Thursday Sunday as well as a jingle board with over 50 of your favorite NA ditties The app is $1 69 cents and I pledge to donate 33 cents from each purchase back to the show

53:15 And he has a donation coming up later on for the 155 downloads he's received so far. Link in the show notes, but you can also find this of course... This one in the Play and Amazon app stores and we thank Rick very much for that! And then finally We don't promote a lot of the URL forwards But Jim Boznek really nailed one for us And he says, gentlemen we need to get ahead of the curve on this one. It's so obvious that this is going to be the meme for 2014 Go to climateinequality.com

53:53 And that forwards to noagendershow.com That is a great one! That is a great one because you can just see, cause they're using every gimmick they can to soak the rich countries these little countries and they say we're suffering the debilitating effects of climate change and it's lowest money Yeah we are climate victims exactly Climate victims Climateinequality.com What were you doing before the climate was changing? Nothing Those are all great initiatives. Thank you very much and of course to our executive and associate executive producers, even though the list is short we highly appreciate what you're doing And of course these credits are valid credits We will vouch for them have someone call us up Will tell them exactly this is a real producer credit and they are good wherever credits are accepted For instance your IMDB or your LinkedIn page? vorac org slash n and please consider going out there propagating our formula Our formula is this

CHAPTER 13 / 38 Discussion

Thom Hartmann's 401k Theory and Media Syndication Economics

The hosts critique a clip of radio host Thom Hartmann, who claims Ronald Reagan promoted 401k plans to trick working people into supporting the interests of the wealthy. The hosts dismiss this as "screwball logic," noting that the stock market is dominated by institutional investors and pension funds. They also speculate on Hartmann's earnings from his syndicated show and his work on RT.

thom hartmann· ronald reagan· 401k· stock market· rt· radio syndication

54:50 We go out we hit people in the mouth Hey, well we're on the topic of the The rich versus poor debate that was going on I think I would Tom Hartman That this is a good little interlude. Tom Hartman may have figured out the whole model for For the problems that we face in this country It's kind of a form of co-opting. And so I have this clip, it may give away what i think about it...it's called the screwball logic of Tom Hartman and please note tom is spelt thom. Thum in the 401k plan and that's why all these companies are doing away with their pension plans at all going to 401K. Yeah you're right Reagan started that trend

55:50 yeah and and the whole idea was if we can get average working people into the stock market you know cuz most of the stock market is really really rich people and if we can get the average working person in a stock market then they'll start caring about the things that rich people care about which will be good for the rich people which is why regan did it and you know its basically screwed the working person and the rich people, ya'know they got people who manage their money. They know how to run this time Yeah, Thom Hartmann. How many million a year does he think he makes? Just like there was right is an evil scheme by the evil Ronald Reagan to make poor people think like rich people and support them

56:30 I'm a maniac. We have the reverse! By the way, the stock market is not mostly people by... The ownership of stock is not mostly people by them. Quite the opposite it's institutionals It's institutions! It's giant pension funds that benefit the working man and all the rest So this guy's nuts But he's making some nut dough boy Well, I don't know how much he makes. He does have a syndicated radio show that's not even on the top ten so he gets that something and he is on RT. That's at least $750 a year. What's his coverage? Does he cover the whole US? Mmm...I hear him a lot so you're probably right, he probably gets at least $750. $750? Yeah, yeah, used to be in that business. Once your syndicated to that extreme there is money to be made. Then it's just numbers. It really is just numbers. Right. You say look here my numbers! Oh okay

CHAPTER 14 / 38 Discussion

February Awareness Months and TV Recommendations

A brief overview of February awareness designations, including National Teen Dating Violence Awareness and American Heart Month, leads into television talk. After a listener complains about the unresolved ending of "Rubicon," the hosts recommend "House of Lies" starring Don Cheadle. They compare the show's cynical tone to "The Wolf of Wall Street" and discuss the nature of celebrity interactions.

thyroid awareness· black history month· house of lies· don cheadle· rubicon· tv shows

57:19 And then there's some associative thing. January, we missed some important things in January actually one but it was not by presidential proclamation what I didn't want to mention January was thyroid awareness month and i would like to say that you should have your thyroid tested. Thyroid is a magical device if you think your bipolar you may want to have that thing tested but however for February My, my. The president is very busy. Of course we have to share our months So it's National Teen Dating Violence Awareness and Prevention Month So no more teen dating? Only if you don't violence it And...it is also American Heart Month and it is National African-American History month Ah yes! Google celebrated that with their nifty little Google logo change What did they change it too

58:20 They change it to, I don't know something that is a little black man in there or something. Some racist thing? They should combine it all! They should have like... A little black man with his heart exploding being beaten while on a date Yeah Just the thought That would be yeah Well maybe It's That'd be House of Lies I have to recommend this TV show by the way Oh, you want to be very careful recommending TV shows. I know You know why? Why? May i read you a quick note? oh no From Jonathan Jennings Yeah! Read it Dear Mr. Dvorak Thanks for your recommendation of the show Rubicon My wife and I just finished watching it And wow what an ending By that i mean there was no ending A cliffhanger that will never be resolved It's almost as if you recommended the show just to be a dick Thanks a bunch

59:19 I got 10 notes that say just the opposite. They enjoyed the show, it's got an open ending because it was never expected to be dropped unceremoniously by the network when somebody from the agency came over and says hey you know this is a little too much of this... I just love that someone said- It wasn't like Adam read this for John no it's adam at curry dot com hello Mr. Dvorak You're a dick! Seriously people? This has to stop I recommend you continue the practice. Alright, what are you going to recommend for us today John? What do you have? The House of Lies with a Don Cheadle show It's in his 27th episode and it is... Somebody describe that... What's that DiCaprio movie that was just done but with Scorsese? Wolf of Wall Street

1:00:09 It's kind of described as a similar show where every person, every single person on the show is reprehensible and a complete douche. Everyone! And it's extremely entertaining. And what's it called? The Show? The House Of Lies. I'm a fan of Cheetol. I didn't even know about this show Yeah, Cheelz is good. If you're a fan of Cheelz you should have been on the show already but... I'm sorry, I'm kind of busy Well i'm just saying you say you're a fan yeah I go up there when I saw Jackie, I mean Las Vegas, Jackie Mason's walking down the aisle I'm not a fan but okay I get it I get it I'm not old enough for that I say hello hi I am a big fan of yours

1:00:55 He says you're coming to my show tonight? I said no. So what kind of a fan are you? Fuck you! That's it, that's it...I can hear him saying it. That's what he says! I can hear him saying and he's right! Big fan big fan That's what they say in Hollywood, by the way. When celebrities meet each other... Big fan! Really enjoy your work. Love your work. Appreciate the work you do. Big fan. Get that outside of Hollywood I get it around here so it says oh hey John DeVore Hey i love your work i loved all those columns you did on PC World 100 million years ago good work I never wrote for pc world hello So are you retired now? You never wrote for PC World? Of course, that's horrible when they say that. They always say that and I still write for PC Magazine! John would you believe that from time to time i get the... Wow what was it like to work on VH1?! I kid you not! I seriously... It wasn't even in business when you were there! Yeah well it started around the same time a little later after I got there but I'm flabbergasted when people say that

CHAPTER 15 / 38 Discussion

House of Lies Clip and Kristen Bell's Performance

A lewd clip from the television series "House of Lies" is played to illustrate the show's portrayal of the high-stakes management consulting and sales world. The scene features Kristen Bell's character confronting a former executive over his history of sexual harassment. The hosts praise the writing and the "reprehensible" nature of the characters.

house of lies· kristen bell· don cheadle· showtime· television· satire

1:01:56 Here's a kind of a lewd clip I want to... people who want to put their kids in another room for this clip because the show is pretty lewd. From The House Of Lies, this is the clip that says name that TV show so it got a gorilla on it but they decided- I never would have known No, you wouldn't. Of course not is the idea but let me just set this up there's a creepy guy who was run out of the company for being a sexual harasser 50 making all these women screw him and he somehow because the companies it's a sales by the way the show is about his sales organization everybody's a salesman We really have, it's vague what they sell but they're all sales sales sales everyone says. It's like it really nails the sale mentality and this and Kristen Bell plays one of the protagonists They're all protagonists And she is meeting with the guy who... She's the one who got the guy fired in the first place as a backstory Sorry sorry back! And this is that little dialogue they have I had to sell my vineyard Do you know that? My lawyers tell me

1:03:01 I can't even fire the stupid little cunt that made all this happen. Can i just say one thing? These friends that couldn't hang with your dehumanization of what was the final number 16 women maybe they weren't your real friends to begin with. You know what Tom, feed me that coercion bullshit! I didn't hold a gun to any of your heads you wanted to God, yes. The too tight shirts? The thick fetid breath? This snow white bush? We all just had to have it. I mean what girl doesn't dream of blowing Santa Claus? Ha ha! I'm a fan. What's her name? That's Kristen Bell. Oh nice. I'll watch that It's-it's-it's... it's a half hour drama and it's very funny

CHAPTER 16 / 38 Discussion

Global Banker Suicides and Janet Yellen's Federal Reserve

The hosts note a "hat trick" of three high-profile banker suicides occurring within a single week in early 2014. They question the timing, noting that suicides usually follow market crashes rather than preceding them. They speculate on whether these deaths are related to internal industry shifts or the transition to Janet Yellen as the new Federal Reserve Chair.

banker suicides· janet yellen· federal reserve· stock market· quantitative easing· london

1:03:56 It's a little lewd but funny. Well we have hit the hat trick, the trifecta it is in third banker now dead yeah three is the magic number it is the magic number uh we have so it's in one week I think three bankers apparent all three apparent suicides although one fell off the roof One fell into a noose around his neck and this third one which was a chief economist, although they say he had issues at work apparently jumped over a four-foot fence before falling down a 50 foot embankment. Supposedly jumped off the bridge to his death suicide yeah exactly sure

1:04:44 Now I have no idea what's up, if there is anything up. But typically you'd see banker suicides when stocks are down! There is a little bit going on with the so-called head...I'll call it another head fake because Janet Yellen our new Federal Reserve Chief Desk is gonna come in and I guarantee she's just gonna start putting right back up printing more money every month No doubt about it So it's kind of weird. She has to. Yes, she has to! No there is no question that she has to. Oh, she'll be number four? You don't want to meet an unfortunate bottom-of the bridge do you Janet?!

1:05:24 Right? Yeah, could be. I don't know...I mean a lot of people are making a lot out of this and it just looks like suicide and I remember- Oh that means the stock market's gonna crash! Nahh, I don't think so Nooo Why would it mean the stock market is going to crash?! If the stock market was gonna crash and you're a banker that knew this You wouldn't kill yourself, you'd short the market! Yeah, you'd be ready to make a bundle Exactly Exactly So something else is goin' on Who knows? Uhhh David Medin Now he is the only full-time member, but he's also the chairman of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board. You'll recall the PCLDP club I think they call it

CHAPTER 17 / 38 Discussion

Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board Report on NSA

David Medin, chairman of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board (PCLOB), is discussed following a report declaring NSA surveillance unconstitutional. The hosts highlight the lack of mainstream media coverage for the report, noting Medin was relegated to speaking in a George Washington University basement. They also point out the suspicious timing of Medin's confirmation just days before the Snowden leaks.

david medin· nsa· pclob· c-span· edward snowden· surveillance· unconstitutional

1:06:08 came out with a report last week which said pretty much everything the NSA is doing is unconstitutional, wrong and should be done away with. This is a panel that was instituted by the 9-11 Commission and is senatorial... chosen by the president but approved by Senate And of course their report is shite means nothing! It gets no play so this guy is now relegated when he wants to talk on C-SPAN 3 He didn't even get a lecture and they put him at a school desk at George Washington University with four yawning people in the audience It's it really is pathetic that no media news outlet... And by the way, hello Pierre-Omidyar Kukagitar? Pierre Ergatar. Where are you with your first look media? Grant Grirard! And Poitras You guys should be all over this They're not even talking about it which I find suspect

1:07:06 Because Glenn Greenwald is the first guy who was always ready to point to something and say, see? See? See? But he's not even pointing to this. And I'm suspicious of that! Anyway... So we read this report and it is very damning and I think the president never made a comment about it It's his panel but okay Spokesman Carney just came out. I like the fact that you found him giving a speech to a room of guys looking for a place to snooze. It's so sad, it's really sad and all he could do was reiterate... He'll never be on a panel again! He may not want to walk in buildings with 33 stories this was not good thing and the guy seems really nice

1:07:51 And he of course really did his job. He did his job absolutely and this is a federal agency by the way, and you know he's in this...he's basically complaining it's like we can't get funding, we can't get a desk, we can't get offices yeah how's that honest report working out for ya David? But what he said which is what we already concluded with his appointment And I'll just remind you of the conversation we had. There was only a few days before the Snowden revelations came out when he was finally approved and put in place, and I think we were kind of joking like that was just in time...like yeah this thing may be scripted

1:08:31 Well, holy crap. After waiting for the Senate to act 510 days on my nomination I was finally confirmed on May 7th 2013 and i took office on May 29 four days before the first Snowden leaks were published in our newspaper so maybe somebody knew how to time my entrance but it's certainly a long wait but I came at a very interesting time Yes you don't say even he knows it Yeah, well it's kind of obvious in fact. senatorial congressional hearings. Well, don't forget before this stuff was published this notice stuff they ran it through the agencies They had to you remember yes we all remember that was printed right the stuff does print in the go both The Guardian and The Washington Post where they got a special hit guy to come in and do the piece And they probably had this at least a month maybe two months before publication

1:09:35 We don't know but whatever the case was it was probably just in time to get this guy in so they couldn't point The finger and say where's this guy is that a question? Is that a question I'm just saying missus statement if you got if the stuff is rolling around through the shit through channels. Mm-hmm Somebody's gonna say what day where are we vulnerable because you have writings and that's the first question. Yes it well one thing We've never filled this position which makes it look like we don't care about Confirm him quick 500 days, that's a year and a half yeah all of a sudden guy and now I'm pointing finger at the missing position but meanwhile there's guys in there But we can push them down to George Washington University in their basement

CHAPTER 18 / 38 Discussion

Germany's Role in Global Espionage and the Hamburg Cell

The discussion centers on why Berlin has become a hub for whistleblowers and activists like Laura Poitras and Jacob Applebaum. The hosts revisit the history of the "Hamburg Cell" involved in the 9/11 attacks and question why Germany's role in international spying isn't more scrutinized. They compare modern Berlin to Cold War-era Vienna as a center for international intrigue.

germany· berlin· angela merkel· hamburg cell· 9/11· espionage· vienna

1:10:24 with a school desk, with a chair with three legs. It's like Brazil where they fight over the desk space... wall So couple other things that well first I had a thought you know we've been talking about Germany Germany Germany and everything is Germany and this interview that Eric Edwin Snowden did was on German television yeah i have not seen a single reputable news organization. I don't even think PBS, no one has taken a clip from it they're not even referencing it. We did! No no I know but Germany is... we need to speak about Germany for a moment. I want to remind this is why I don't understand we've got Laura Poitras based in Germany she is documentary filmmaker spy something or other shady don't understand her

1:11:23 We've got Jacob Applebaum, the pornographic PR guy for Tor. Because he's not a developer... He's a PR guy who used to do porn websites. That's Applebaum. Then we have Snowden's main squeeze formerly known as Julian Assange's girlfriend. She is in Berlin and these are self-imposed exile Self-imposed exile. Yes, we had Grand Greenwald's husband picking up documents in Berlin coming through Britain on purposely it appears to us at least to get caught I want to remind you of the Hamburg cell and this is why I feel that it's that is very weird That no one is calling for you know and by the way now we're all oh We're so sorry we tapped Angela Merkel's phone

1:12:28 John Kerry going over there to suck up to her. And by the way, she doesn't speak English with him They did a press conference together and she speaks German it's translated and I mean, I know she can speak English It was really weird. She's like screw it much. I'm speaking German I want to remind you of the Hamburg cell which according to the 9-11 report and all post analysis of 9-11 this is where several of the 9-11 if you believe in all that hijackers laid their plans in Germany. What is going on with Germany and all this spying business? And why is no one really talking about this 2009... It's definitely the new Vienna. Explain the reference to Vienna. Well, you know, Vienna used to be oh the drop point for all those international intrigue between KGB and CIA and all the rest of it

1:13:25 It was always in Vienna and I think it's because they enjoyed Vienna. And it was like, we're gonna do this nice art You know, let's do it in Vienna Yeah Okay, go to the symphony afterwards yeah and in 2009 There was a actually if I pulled up a telegraph report Headline terrorist cell found in Hamburg where 9-11 attacks were conceived German intelligence services learned that a new militant group with 10 members headed by a German headed by a German of Syrian origins, interesting had sprung up in the port city and so there was another cell there of terrorists. So you know I'm not necessarily trying to tie anything together but why isn't anyone saying what's up with Germany? Amidst all this kind of looking around and trying to understand the timeline of Edward E Edwin Eric Snowden

CHAPTER 19 / 38 Discussion

Edward Snowden's German TV Interview and Presidential Wiretapping

Edward Snowden's interview on German television is analyzed, specifically his claim that analysts could wiretap anyone, including federal judges and the President. The hosts interpret this as a "message" from Snowden that he possesses compromising information ("the goods") on high-level officials. They contrast this with the lack of American media interest in the full interview.

edward snowden· nsa· wiretapping· barack obama· german television· prism· surveillance

1:14:25 Something very interesting cropped up and I need to give Kiwi Cameron some props for this. I'm going to play two clips, one from the original... And by the way if you have a chance it's linked in show notes go back and watch the first interview from Snowden where Graham Greenwald is asking the questions It's The Poitras Interview where he re-explains the PRISM system He literally says to some very explicit detail that Apple, Google Microsoft Yahoo give access to the back end and to the NSA so that they don't have...so that they have no culpability. And he's very very clear about that That's right! The slides were clear about it But forget the slide he says it so clearly

1:15:16 that, and I think people you know skirt around that. And we've got all these companies who are like oh pooh-pooh man we didn't do anything! I think they're full of crap but of course we have to protect them now anyway listen to what he said in interview one and what he reiterates in this second interview the only shown on German television for some reason no one America wants to show it not all analysts have the ability to target everything but I sitting my desk certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone from you or your accountant to a federal judge, to even the president if I had it personally. Now at first this just sounds like he's saying something like I can tap anything anywhere but now the second interview... When you are on the inside when you go into work every day when you sit down at the desk and you realize the power you have You can wiretap the President of United States

1:16:10 you can wiretap a federal judge. And if you do it carefully, no one will ever know because the only way the NSA discovers abuses are from self-reporting." There's your answer why Edward Eric Edwin J Snowden will come home and will be scot free because he's got the goods! That's a message if I've ever heard one... Oh so wait oh that's an interesting thing..I like this I'll give you a point. How many times does he have to say, I can tap the president? No one will know about it. Which also means that they may have some goods on whatever. Yes! I've already tapped him. Yes. What do you might as well say? Yes, yes. I've got the goods. That's exactly what he is saying

1:16:56 And he probably has some set of, because he's not the dumbest guy I've ever run into that for sure. In fact for a high school dropout it was probably because he went straight to college. Yeah exactly, exactly dropped out when... Because he was so brilliant you mean? No I'm sure. He is just obviously sharp and it's not like oh this idiot high school dropout get goods on these people With his fake girlfriend near the one that doesn't exist We know she doesn't exist. Who? His fake girlfriend! Oh, the girlfriend of the stripper... Please! Yeah why is no one interviewing her? Why are they not hounding- why is the National Enquirer not hounding her?! The whole thing as a joke the way this is being handled and why the American public has completely cut off from all this I mean you might as well be in communi- you know could not today's China but communist China in the 50s Why doesn't she have a book deal? Why doesn't she have a reality show? Dude we could make- we could produce this! Dude! Dude we could produce this

CHAPTER 20 / 38 Discussion

The Mystery of Snowden's Girlfriend and Obama Divorce Rumors

The hosts question the whereabouts and existence of Edward Snowden's girlfriend, Lindsay Mills, noting the lack of media hounding or reality TV deals. This leads to a discussion of National Enquirer rumors regarding a potential divorce between Barack and Michelle Obama. They speculate on whether Mills was actually a "handler" for the agency rather than a civilian partner.

edward snowden· lindsay mills· national enquirer· michelle obama· reality tv· hawaii

1:17:51 I was the spy's girlfriend. Now on Bravo! It would be great! She could hang out with Anna, we could have a meeting between the hot spy Anna... What's her name? The Russian one that got deported who is doing fashion shows and then we can put her with Emily what's-her-name Harrison... Harrison the hot girl in Berlin it could be a multi continental show But no, she's nowhere. We get the new girl with the beautiful little black dress she had on over there... we get lots of stories about the formerly Russians but why not about her? Because she doesn't exist and this guy is sitting there he's like okay well I could tap the president. I actually disagree with that With the President

1:18:41 No, she doesn't exist. I think because I remember when they were doing interviews in Hawaii early on when this thing broke and the guy next door neighbor was talking about the two of them and the boxes that were in the weird boxes stacked high in the garage and then they both disappeared overnight She may be dead. I've always been convinced that she was probably the his boss or handler for the agency, but that's possible all right where she disappeared All i know is that? I can tell you i can point to i can probably call three producers one at mtv one at bravo and Probably i could call the president of a and e

1:19:18 And if I said, hey! I've got the Snowden's girlfriend for a reality show. Boom! They give me a 13 episode deal right there Yeah and i'm sure you're not the only person in the world who has thought of that but she works for The Agency Exactly okay there you go and someone is saying very clearly to The President... And if you take it into- Who do you think the goods are? Gay hookers, because first of all that's his history. That's what always been rumored I have no proof for it of course National Enquirer picked up the other day. I love picking up The National Enquirer at the HEB when I do the shopping and... When I do the shopping It's the shoppin'. The shoppin'

1:20:00 Normally we go to Wheatsville, but this is just for the like paper products and stuff. Wheat-sville? Wheats! W H E A, Wheatsville We're owner it's a co-op And right there it's Michelle wants a divorce He's hanging out with the pimp you know the tits comb Titsville guy It's not saying gay But we know this is Larry Sinclair I mean these things look at there's a hit list around Obama and it's all young black gay men and be killed, shot in the head. And you're to blame! That's what I think it is because what else? The American public would not care about anything else. No they would get a kick out of the gay thing though. It would if it was just uh so what the Enquirer is saying is they're saying that Michelle Obama found out from the Secret Service that they had been covering up his cheating right They don't say necessarily and then they show a picture of him with some actress whatever

1:21:03 Like he's looking at her and then the selfie with the Denmark chick Which is a new term for Prime Minister. And he throws baseball like a girl by the way That doesn't mean you're gay that has nothing to do with it No, it has nothing to do with it. Oh I got myself Yeah so you can...I'll just pretend I heard moreover So I thought that was very interesting and to me It means that this is the message The message is clear I'm coming home because i'm tired of being here in Russia and by the way, I want you to bring my hottie back from Berlin too. How much do you...I'm going to bet you right now that she comes back and they live together? No, I can see it! I'll put it in the book, I think its a great prediction. I think her name is Harrison Rebecca? Is it Rebecca Harrison?

CHAPTER 21 / 38 Discussion

James Clapper's Perjury and the "Rock and a Hard Place" Defense

President Obama's defense of DNI James Clapper during an interview with Jake Tapper is critiqued. Obama suggested Clapper was caught between a "rock and a hard place" when asked about domestic surveillance by Senator Wyden. The hosts argue that Clapper simply perjured himself and should have been made a "fall guy" to protect the administration's credibility.

james clapper· barack obama· jake tapper· perjury· nsa· senator ron wyden

1:22:05 I have not seen the interview. I got a transcript, I guess they're holding it back and i couldn't find anything online. Jake Tapper of all people the guy who was kicked out of the White House press corps now is getting a Wiedergutmacher as we call it and he was allowed to interview the president post-the state of the union And the quote here from the president... Wow, I'm a clapper's yeah lie surgery. Yeah It's it's a humiliation that Congress has not done anything about it His concern was that he had a classified program and that he couldn't talk about and he was in an open hearing In which he was asked he was prompted Interesting with a prompter to disclose the program And so he felt he was caught between a rock and a hard place no mr.. President James Clapper is a moron

1:23:03 We've seen it time and time again. Holder did it right, remember we have that clip? Holders asked the same thing and he won't answer it He says I can't answer that I have to do in a closed session and that's when will talk about it yeah he didn't say no you didn't say yes No we know what happened here is Wyden, Senator Wyden asked the question incorrectly not in accordance with the script which they had agreed to the days previous to the hearing. Well I thought that, no I thought it was Clapper didn't bother to read the script? Oh they may have changed it or something like that but Clapper had was not following with the script of the day and then he perjured himself and now for the president to apologize for him Wow! For this... if I just said if I was advising the president

1:23:57 But of course, you know maybe because of whatever. Maybe he has no power at this point but if I was advising the president i would say make him the fall guy put it all on clapper get rid of him put a new guy in place tell them he's a liar You can always pardon them later and couple years No actually that'd be great idea you throw him under the bus you tell him in advance Dude im sorry So here is what gonna happen to you your gonna get thrown under the bus and then your going take blame for whole thing Exactly. And you know what? The guy is patriotic enough that he would say, okay I'll do it in a second Yeah i'd do it He doesn't look like the kind of guy who would say no to that Or you could say no and end up dead with a phony suicide note saying the whole thing was your idea So why do you think that hasn't taken place? One step further Why is Clapper apologizing to Tapper

1:24:54 I mean, tell me. It's weird! Well, I mean Clapper is not some important person that needs to be you know stay in that job? Well as we know according to Executive Order 12333 the Director of National Intelligence everybody reports into him including the CIA or whatever they think they want to report into but everyone is supposed to reporting to him he's the central guy between the intelligence community and the president Maybe Clapper's in on the deal. Maybe Clapper knows about, you know the whole CIA NSA thing Well even if he does what difference does it make? The only thing I'm saying is what differences to make it would be nice to know

1:25:39 What's going on? He's not gonna say anything even if they threw him under the bus. Let's agree that the term throwing them under the bus just has to be banned from this show It's not a good term, okay I'm now you're up one I'll have to come up with one of your little favorites To get rid of it maybe bitch You always say bitch Well don't act like one then Yeah should be banned Okay its banned done all right it'll be much easier for me to do that I did see... For me to say it? You're telling, wait a minute. Are you telling me that would be difficult for me just not use under the bus? We shall see. But you implied. That's exactly what i meant. I'm looking at this document which I did not hear a lot about and apparently there is an EFF dot org. I am not quite sure how they, I am sure they are getting from Poitras or God knows

CHAPTER 22 / 38 Discussion

NSA Spying on COP15 Climate Conference and CELAC Summit

Documents from the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) reveal that the NSA spied on negotiators during the 2009 COP15 climate change conference in Copenhagen. The hosts also discuss the CELAC summit in Cuba, where Latin American leaders declared the region a "zone of peace." They highlight the irony of Bolivian President Evo Morales suggesting the world should spy on Obama.

nsa· cop15· copenhagen· climate change· celac· bolivia· surveillance

1:26:35 But the Electronic Frontier Foundation has a an RSS feed for their, what do they call this? It's any document that comes out essentially NSA spying. I think if you go to eff.org slash nsa-spying and then you can get these documents... And so if this is a true document, I thought this was hilarious and I didn't hear anyone reporting on it And this is from 2009, from the Copenhagen COP15 climate change conference. It's a report from SINIO... what is that? Signal Intelligence Systems... I don't know all these codes they use

1:27:22 Anyway, analysts here at NSA as well as our second party partners will continue to provide policymakers with unique timely and valuable insights into key countries preparations and goals for the conference. As well as deliberations within countries on climate change policies and negotiating strategies. We're spying on the greenies! Good. It's about time we put it to good use That's really, that's damning man! They're not terrorists Well maybe they are Given such large participation, with all 192 UN member states invited to attend... ...leaders and negotiating teams from all around the world will undoubtedly be engaging in intense last-minute policy formulations. At the same time they'll be holding frequent sidebar discussions with their counterparts,... ...details of which are of great interest to our policymakers.

1:28:18 While the outcome of the Copenhagen Climate Change Conference remains uncertain, Signal's intelligence will undoubtedly play a significant role in keeping our negotiators as well-informed as possible throughout this two week event. Wow! We're evil No, it's all for the good of the country. Oh, of course it is USA We are number one and that's what the you know number one in what spying? That's what the the C lack finds as well this is the Caribbean and Latin American countries, I believe they have a little conference the CELAC. Yeah And the president of Bolivia who was in on the game by the way pretending that his plane was forced down in Vienna

1:29:10 There's your Vienna reference. More than 30 Latin American and Caribbean countries are declaring the region a zone of peace They signed the agreement during a two-day summit in Cuba The country has pledged to respect each others right to choose their own political system That is particularly important for Cuba who has been criticized harshly for their one party system The US was not invited to this summit but it remained a hot topic especially for recent surveillance operations If spying is needed for the international community's security, I propose that we all spy on Obama and his government. And then the world will be safe!

CHAPTER 23 / 38 Discussion

Philip Seymour Hoffman Death and the Heroin-Fentanyl Crisis

Following the breaking news of actor Philip Seymour Hoffman's death, the hosts discuss a surge in heroin overdoses linked to fentanyl-laced batches. They note the arrest of Senator Mark Udall's son for heroin possession and reports of "deadly batches" in Maryland. The discussion links the increased heroin supply to the ongoing military presence in Afghanistan's poppy fields.

philip seymour hoffman· heroin· fentanyl· maryland· mark udall· overdose· afghanistan

1:29:51 Hey, don't go off script. Mr.. President of Bolivia stick with the program everything will be fine Don't be ad-libbing don't be a head living okay stop so just as breaking news for the shows even though we do this once and breaking Breaking breaking news breaking news Philip Seymour Hoffman dead what yeah? Oh my gosh That's shocking yeah, he's it's apparent drug overdose but Really? I didn't come up with that. He's pretty young he's not he's 46 holy crap Wow Your compartment well if you got to go might as well Go in the New York apartment with a hooker Well, the hooker was not there of this issue if there was a hooker hmm. Hmm. Oh that sad yeah great actor Yeah, really played a lot of very controversial roles All right

1:30:52 Well, thanks for bumming me out. Sorry! I didn't know you knew the guy did ya? Um... kinda- uh not no kind of. I met him once very shy hmm all right we got a couple things you know what no no this you know what i'm thinking but I got it because I've been tracking this I'm going to guess heroin And there is... I've been tracking something here. Something is going on with the poppies now we know we're about to pull out of Afghanistan or so-called and everywhere I turn it's all about heroin and I'm thinking a couple of things first if we actually do pull out away from the poppy stand fields

1:31:38 Who is going to run the heroin into America, is the question. It will be very hard because we just won't have the flow We won't have the throughput of the planes... We won't have the mechanism in place And people if you think I'm just bullshitting you here go watch American Gangster and seriously go look at it Which was a true story And and who says it's no longer true and look up Mina, Arkansas There's a million places you can find information about this. And please look at where the bases are in Afghanistan You will see that they are conveniently located We've beaten this up on the show quite a bit not everyone has been listening to the show for a long time and the European United Nations Office of Drug policy and drug tracking, you know year over year and this year no different

1:32:25 production of heroin off the charts. And here's what I'm seeing, I'm seeing nothing but heroin promotion this week. Son of Senator Mark Udall Democrat of Colorado was arrested this week on drug possession and trespassing charges the Boulder County Sheriff's Office said Thursday Jebediah Lee Fox Udall. Great name by the way, Jebediah Lee Fox Udall was taken into custody on Wednesday after the sheriff's office received a report that a man matching his description was trying to break into cars in El Dorado Springs Colorado after the authorities stopped and searched him Mr. Fox Udal admitted to having used heroin in the past 48 hours

1:33:09 And then we have from yesterday. State health officials say a deadly batch of heroin is hitting Maryland streets Friday, the already potent drug is now being laced with fentanyl. So we got heroin here and we had the... What's it laced with what? Fentanyl! Do you know what this is? Fentanyl? No no. I think it's 80 times more powerful than morphine and that fen-fen stuff we talked about a couple shows ago No, I think we talked about this stuff. No no this is something different It's Fentanyl and by the way that the story of the udol kid seems also it seems more to me to be connected to the legalization of marijuana in Colorado As a cautionary tale you're gonna watch it come out Oh well I started by smoking marijuana And then the next thing I know I wanted to use heroin oh

CHAPTER 24 / 38 Discussion

Syria-Afghanistan Drug Connection and "Theraflu" Heroin

A theory is developed connecting the heroin trade in Afghanistan with chemical precursors or fentanyl analogs coming from Syria. The hosts discuss "Theraflu" and "Magic City" as street names for the potent heroin-fentanyl mix. They suggest that the "hamburger helper" (fentanyl) is being used to cut heroin as prices fluctuate, leading to a spike in accidental overdoses.

fentanyl· syria· afghanistan· theraflu· drug trafficking· chemical weapons· overdoses

1:34:02 Uh, well that's not how the story ends. In fact he was picked up for heroin last year so it's really not... they do not compute... could be! Udall is also a democrat so they're not even trying to rip any republican guy but this deadly heroin... Republicans don't use drugs Wow look at this heroin fentanyl mix plaguing many states oh this is much bigger than I thought uh but it's all just really... That's the stuff we talked about fentanyl Is that the stuff they are using in Syria? Was that it? Yeah, I think so. No no, that was something else John. It's a painkiller. Okay now we got to go. Something different, its a painkiller. You've got the mark book? Syrian drug problem. That was not fentanyl because these guys would be falling down...that was more like a hypo thing they were using

1:35:01 All right, we're on the stick here. Yeah you on the stick? Yeah keep talking So this mix of heroin and fentanyl has a trade name Theraflu which is funny because whenever I have...I don't feel good about it but i love taking theraflu You take theraflu?! yeah but not this kind of theroflu there's also a competing brand called Magic City And the fentanyl, so when you match this, when you mix these two together it's like heroin to the max. Like ampla goes to 11 and 39 people have died in Baltimore alone of this mix. Yeah, Fentanyl Syria! Really? State issues fentanyl warning follow overdoses. Holy crap! Fentanyl causes overdose boom in Estonia John we're on to something here This is I think this is significant

1:36:00 And what happens if we find out that the actor, Philip Seymour Hoffman, if he OD'd on heroin and fentanyl mix? I don't think it's at this point based on the way things go in the show than what we come up with. Yeah! Wow totally but so this is now related to Syria... Now you have a Syria Afghanistan connection man we are so good Wow. So we bring in the heroin from Afghanistan, we got the separate trade route from Syria with fentanyl, we mix it up and then sell it to kids for $4 a bag! Is this is a great country or what? And Philip Hoffman is the spokeschild. The spokesperson. Good work. Dead spokes guy. Oh man because you know all of its just promo

1:36:53 You know, if you're a kid like hey that's fentanyl stuff. I mean seriously listen to... They got a kid in this report A powerful painkiller Right there! I'm already interested If you put those two together it's like one plus one equals a million Hello Common Core! Common Core! Wow! I'm all over this Substance abuse expert Mike Gimbel says this could just be the tip of the iceberg Yeah where is the rest of the iceberg? Sounds like that's another Soledad clone As more of this hits the street In a battle to win over new customers, more people are going to run into it thinking they can handle it and they can't. We are so number one!

1:37:34 The office of the medical examiner says the drug has killed 37 people statewide. Losers, just don't know how to do it losers September most being in Baltimore City Baltimore Prince George's and Anne Arundel counties I go lock myself my bathroom this man describes to CBS now this is not a man This is a kid all right? This is a teenager Describing how he takes it like myself in the bathroom evening news what it's like to try the lethal drug In probably 20 seconds. How was that? Oh yeah? What?! Wow 20 seconds I was out good to go where do i pick me up some H&F? Well, I was gonna say if you remember one of the things that we talked about on the show and You would like to actually harp on is that it's more than you should then That's the reason that it increases Tobacco sales. Is that if you put all these horrible warnings on this will kill you! The more you sell

CHAPTER 25 / 38 Discussion

Media Promotion of Lethal Drugs and 2006 Fentanyl History

The hosts analyze how news reports describing drugs as "lethal" or "too powerful" often act as a sales pitch to addicts seeking a stronger high. They compare the current 2014 crisis to a similar marketing push in 2006 in Chicago. They argue that the repackaging of fentanyl as a "new phenomenon" is a recurring cycle in the illicit drug market.

fentanyl· heroin· chicago· marketing· drug addiction· news reporting· overdoses

1:36:53 You know, if you're a kid like hey that's fentanyl stuff. I mean seriously listen to... They got a kid in this report A powerful painkiller Right there! I'm already interested If you put those two together it's like one plus one equals a million Hello Common Core! Common Core! Wow! I'm all over this Substance abuse expert Mike Gimbel says this could just be the tip of the iceberg Yeah where is the rest of the iceberg? Sounds like that's another Soledad clone As more of this hits the street In a battle to win over new customers, more people are going to run into it thinking they can handle it and they can't. We are so number one!

1:37:34 The office of the medical examiner says the drug has killed 37 people statewide. Losers, just don't know how to do it losers September most being in Baltimore City Baltimore Prince George's and Anne Arundel counties I go lock myself my bathroom this man describes to CBS now this is not a man This is a kid all right? This is a teenager Describing how he takes it like myself in the bathroom evening news what it's like to try the lethal drug In probably 20 seconds. How was that? Oh yeah? What?! Wow 20 seconds I was out good to go where do i pick me up some H&F? Well, I was gonna say if you remember one of the things that we talked about on the show and You would like to actually harp on is that it's more than you should then That's the reason that it increases Tobacco sales. Is that if you put all these horrible warnings on this will kill you! The more you sell

1:38:27 You sell more and that's also the basic thesis that we have based on all the commercials. Drug disclaimers? Drug commercials, and all the bad things are going to happen if you try this drug and people for some reason it turns out to be a sales pitch And this pitch is being pushed right now John look at...if you just Google I just Googled fentanyl I didn't even google the heroin mix And let me go back to the... So here it is. Heroin fentanyl mix plaguing many states That's the top hit and I didn't even put heroin in there just fentanyl Fentanyl transdermal patch, fentanyl drug effects of duragesic fentanyl So now i'm going to do heroine fentanyl killer batch of white heroine responsible for at least 100 deaths

1:39:26 Heroin users warned about deadly additive Washington Post, but this is wow. This is June 2006 This is interesting so that was their previous marketing push well This is the okay Let's assume that we're still in play here with the heroin coming in now It's the supply is going to be prices prices are about to go up Yeah So you need a filler and it's what you're doing now hamburger helper You're promoting this as a more than a booster. It's not like just that you're, essentially what we're talking about here let's be honest about this from a drug perspective. This is cutting heroin the old-fashioned way where you take some heroin and cut it back and then sell somebody some weak crap for a lot of money And heres the beauty Where is the fentanyl coming from? Where is the hamburger helper coming from? Its coming from Syria which is in play

1:40:26 So it's cheap, so it's cheap. Super cheap and is being sold in the way that things are always sold to America 1 It's really bad for you You might get anal leakage 2 It's new and improved kids! Look its all shiny And has a cool name Like Theraflu or Magic Bag. Whatever... And that's how we sell it! So this is 2006, Chicago the largest clue that something had changed in Chicago's vibrant heroin market 2006 people eight years ago came in February oh boy February seems to be the harvest when police found a dozen users sprawled unconscious in one place

1:41:10 Toxicologists at the Cook County morgue discovered fentanyl, a powerful painkiller many times stronger than morphine in the bodies of addicts who died. A small amount of fentanyl and a dose of heroin adds a pop that many users have come to crave! That's right we even use the term kids like... Pop snap crackle and pop it's a new phenomenon it's the latest high thats funny how come they're saying its a new phenomenon all over again eight years ago when was a new phenomenon 2006 Well, you know if it didn't sell the first time just repackage it and sell it again Lorraine police November 12 2013 fake heroin causing ODs is pure fentanyl Wow Interesting. Well this is that we're the only people talking about this We're certainly the only people connecting it with Afghanistan in Syria I mean the Syria thing is just crazy That's just really crazy John

CHAPTER 26 / 38 Discussion

Donation Segment and the "Swazzle Knight" Title

A second round of donations is processed, featuring a $133.33 contribution from Florida and a $123.33 donation from Virginia. The latter donor is granted the title "Sir Yoho the Swazzle Knight" based on a misunderstanding of Dutch terminology. The hosts also thank Rick Barkhouse for his ongoing support via the No Agenda Android app.

donations· value-for-value· swazzle knight· karma· sweden· canada· new jersey

1:42:11 It's wild. We had a control on this show! And we do have a short list of people to thank and I want to remind people that you're donating the show so you can hear conversations like this about fentanyl coming out of Syria, overdoses in real time with Philip Seymour Hoffman and talking about the possible blackmailing of the President of United States. This is never found anyplace else. That's why people such as Surge Storms in Fort Pierce, Florida gave us $133.33

1:42:56 In the morning to you John and Adam from sunny, Florida first time longtime listeners first-time donor boner I want to sincerely thank you for your courage and he goes on Discussing how great show is. He says I do not usually pay for or donate to anything However, I'm getting a lot of value. I look forward to enjoying your show guilt free Well, you never have to have he wants some job karma So and there's a number of people that that will be looking for job karma since we have a short list Anyway should we just do that John a little? Jobs jobs jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs There we go now we have sir yo-ho

1:43:39 From Woodbridge, Virginia with 12333 which is interesting and I have to read his notes. Oh that's executive order 123333! I think that's one of our new donation models. 12333 nice It's a good number Great number It's affordable Well you can do it in many ways this is affordable From Sir Yoho, he wants some calls to the Swazzle Knight. I want some credit for the swazzle enough that it was my misunderstanding of your Dutch that created this no agenda meme so thusly i would like to be known as Sir Yoho The Swazzle Knight Sure! Hold on we need a meeting Yeah okay I approve That's good to go At Rocker 182 $117 from South Plainfield New Jersey Who has the meetings from the meeting notes?

1:44:28 The meeting knows that keep the notes are all the same they say nothing to do in today's world You don't take copious notes you get sued John a Chris deck in Berkeley, California Right of the road from you $100 and we'll give him some fiscal year into the fiscal year karma at the end of this list Brett Mahoney hundred dollars North Quincy Massachusetts nuts Kevin Grant, Vancouver BC $96 and then we have our little group. We have starting with Ken Burchill Ottawa Ontario John Bennett Frankfurt Illinois Kevin McLaughlin Locust New North Carolina he wants an F the cancer

1:45:27 Eric Hall Britter, South Ogden Utah. 69! 69! All 9 of 6. You thought karma. If we can make it rain we can get rid of cancer and clearly we could solve that Rick Barkhouse in Smith Falls, Ontario 5850. He's our buddy from the noagendadroid.com. The No Agenda Android app. Thank you Rick Apps a buck 69 he pledged to donate 33 cents from each purchase and he kicked in a little extra to bring it up to $5880 thank you Rick Eric Ortner 5555 in Sioux Center Iowa

1:46:07 Alexandre, Alexandru. Oh I'm sorry Andra. Andri Alexandro. Alexandru in Concord he's right up the street from me and that's 50-50 Cliftie LeGrand Oregon 5033 and these are all $50 donors Mark Tanner in Whittier California Sir Greg Borunsell in Kenosha Wisconsin Karl Baron in Malmo, Sweden our contact to the southern Swedish areas and That's it. That's all we got a good work people know

CHAPTER 27 / 38 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony for Sir Adriaan and Job Karma

The hosts perform a formal knighting ceremony for Adriaan from the Netherlands, bestowing the title "Sir Adriaan Knight of the No Dinner Round Table." They also grant "special job karma" to several listeners, including a recent college graduate and a knight facing financial hardship. The segment reinforces the "value-for-value" model as an alternative to traditional advertising.

knighting· netherlands· karma· unemployment· college graduates· value-for-value

1:46:44 Can I be a little short today? Which is the same as actually looking at the spreadsheet, did the calculations. Same exact within 10 bucks of last Sunday. Yeah. Weird. Let's see, Surstone... I think it was Super Bowl fever. Everyone is like all messed up on heroin and fentanyl. Dude gotta need Velveeta! Dear Adam and John, I'm a knight in need of serious karma In serious need of karma, I'm two times night unable to donate currently. Listener from show number one the age of 27 just lost my girlfriend have acquired a large mortgage payment will donate as soon as possible looking for a karma shout out no fancy words just needed needed hear the bell in my name sorry to bother you it wasn't so serious i wouldn't even ask

1:47:32 Dude, we break for nights here. Absolutely. It was just regular karma right? Okay Here it is and I'm sure you can share that with a couple other people who are in need of it You've got karma or Sir Stone And thank you very much Eric Ortner he was on the list there with his 55-55 Has he says to celebrate the one-year anniversary of my website? I removed the money made from the site and it's unofficial sponsors Which is basically a banner ad and donated that money to the show. That's 250 50 The website is sexual predator drone calm There was something funny about little it's a good funny little sight there And you know, they're people basically googling and cut and they're like

1:48:21 Sexual Predator. Yeah, what's the sexualpredatordroon.com? That might be hot! How disappointed they will be... But yeah we show you a banner ad and there ya go that's our business model which is truly value for value so if you get any value if you thought this conversation was interesting so far please think of us We had another producer who gave us his Netflix money He said he gets more from this show Then his Netflix account. Of course, he'll probably take another free account where you go with Netflix Just change your name a little bit I'm sure if people really looked at what they're spending every single month on so-called informational products

1:49:07 It's horrible. Or information or entertainment products, or infotainment which is what it really all is yeah I bet you people would be a holy crowd. Hundreds of dollars cables ridiculously overpriced when you can get good over the air in most parts of the country. That is truly. I told ya if put an antenna up I got 87 channels over there When are gonna get your ham stuff going man so we can do a QSO Oh man, yeah. A QSO. devorak dot org slash N-A... No there you go well we have no birthdays other than miss Mickey's mom would celebrate her birthday today so we think of her today but no other birthdays to celebrate on the list We do have a knighting So um.. we have Adriaan from the Netherlands John Can you bring out the Dutch blade? Very good

1:50:07 Adrian for noi it could be Adrian for noise Either way, we are very happy to welcome you sir to the round table which contains nothing but chairs for knights and dames. And very proud to welcome you to the club and hereby pronounce the Sir Adria Knight of the No Dinner Round Table! For you sir Cuban cigars, a single malt scotch cannabis and cabernet red boys and chardonnay hot pants and boots hookers and blow three gaits in a bucket fried chicken wenches and beer rubinous women rosé vodka and vanilla bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider and escorts or if you like plain old mutton and mead right here At the round table of the knights and the dames, and go to noagenomination.com slash rings To register and give Eric all the information needed so that you can receive your ring your sealing wax and your proclamation

1:50:52 Just to stretch this segment out a little more, Kevin Grant's the one who canceled his Netflix subscription and Brett Mahoney is the one who gave us 100 bucks but I think we should give him some special job karma because he just getting out of college. He doesn't want to be homeless. He's going to need a lot more than just some special job karma but for everybody coming out of college listening to the program... Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! Karma Meanwhile back at the ranch I have a little story that's interesting. This is the nude protest in San Francisco, I think we should all pay careful attention

CHAPTER 28 / 38 Discussion

San Francisco Nudity Protest and American Sexual Repression

A news report on nudity activists being arrested in San Francisco on the anniversary of the city's nudity ban sparks a discussion on American culture. The hosts argue that the United States is a "sex-crazed" but "repressed" society, which explains both the massive porn industry and the legal controversies surrounding public breastfeeding and nudity.

san francisco· nudity· body freedom· sexual repression· public policy· protest

1:51:35 San Francisco police arrested at least four people today at a rally for nudity. About a dozen protesters were there to mark the first anniversary of the city law banning nudity. Organizers say there's growing acceptance of what is called body freedom and they predict the law will be overturned. Violations though right now can lead to $100 fine, The ordinance makes exceptions for young children and the beta breakers race. Yeah! So the race, they're running around naked. I guess children can go around naked for all the pedophiles out there. Makes no sense? This is such a weird country... Body freedom! Yeah it's like internet freedom only no packets. Well depends some of these people have seen them naked and got plenty of packets. This country is so weird

1:52:27 You know, it's like women can't breastfeed in public although it's legal everywhere. It was just suppressed repressed sexual craziness. It's no wonder we make the best porn. We can't do it! It's really sad. It really, really is sad. There's a lot of sex going on. Yeah but it's... We just don't like to display it and we're just embarrassing I think that's the opposite Why? Why is it embarrassing to display the human body? Because I think were are bunch of sex crazed maniacs Well this is true Much more so than a lot of these other countries And by showing more I think its just like no-no-no they may figure it out Okay that makes sense

CHAPTER 29 / 38 Discussion

Sochi Olympics Gay Rights Controversy and the "White Paper"

The hosts discuss the "Gay White Paper" sent to various organizations, including Amnesty International and media outlets, which challenges the narrative of state-sponsored anti-gay violence in Russia. They critique groups like GLAAD and Human Rights Watch for "exploiting" the issue to sell merchandise and raise funds. They also mention a Fareed Zakaria interview where a Russian artist denied a link between gay rights and pedophilia.

sochi· russia· gay rights· amnesty international· glad· vladimir putin· white paper

1:53:10 Because so the reason why is it we the industry is better and has more money if we don't show like nipples and stuff And breasts because god forbid you see a breast. There's something like that the gay White paper I've shortened now just to get white paper was released of course on Wednesday's newsletter in Thursday, and as Lots of people been hitting people their mouth with it very interesting to see Some of our producers are doing some fun things with it one of our let me see if I can get his name here Yap hail who don't we know yap. He's a yeah, he's been a sponsor of the show. He sent a copy to the Dutch

1:53:56 arm of Amnesty International. Nice! And they said, and I have the email here that's in Dutch so it'll be translating on the fly... They said well so essentially he's what he said, I'm very confused because you are telling people to boycott the Olympic Games not to go to Sochi because of their anti-gay laws But this white paper that I've received, which has been written by a very prominent activist—gay activist—seems to point to the contrary. And Amnesty International writes back and says well you know we have all the information here and they give him the URL he says yeah but have you read this white paper because it says something else? And their reply is look we have so much information coming in every day we don't have time to read white papers! I swear to God that's Franz Stoffel & Amnesty International Public Affairs

1:54:47 I sent a copy of the white paper to Andy Humm of The Gay News on Free Speech TV. And, of course he immediately called you up and... Never heard back! And I don't expect him to change their position Russia sucks they hate gays yeah and that's you know well it's very interesting to see GLAAD this is gay lesbian alliance something defamation thing GLAAD and they are, they've got a... They're really all in on this and actually have found pretty cool websites. They're all in on what? On making money off of hating Russia for being anti-gay Okay So they brought in American apparel and their making all these t-shirts And there selling t-shirts Oh yeah! They don't want to have anything to do with this white paper No nothing whatsoever Go away

1:55:49 and human rights now they are here and this is here they sent out a letter time is running out for the sponsors of the Sochi Olympics to take a clear stand in defense of Olympic values. And yes, values so they want that's what's Alexi more on thank you Human Rights Watch is telling everyone to boycott Atos, Coca-Cola, Dow Chemicals General Electric McDonald's Omega Panasonic Procter & Gamble Samsung and Visa. We have to get a hold of here we have to get ahold before the Sociolympics we have to get ahold the PR people from Coca-Cola in particular And get them the white paper Get them the whitepaper say hey! They'll never do it they'll never do it

1:56:37 They won't do it. They don't want to be in the fight, they just want everyone to drink Coca-Cola. They're not going to get in the fight. No one's gonna get into a fight! We're the only ones in the fight and nobody cares In fact by the amount of poor donations and contributions we got for todays show...they really dont care You know what? We got thrown under the bus John Say what bitch? Woah let me write that down That was too..that's the opening of the show That's great. Love that, thank you! Yeah it's very disturbing how much money is just being made and... Exploitation is what it is. Total exploitation. And the gay community is being exploited, the straight communities everyone's being exploited, the guilt-ridden liberals are being exploited yeah The only people that don't care one way or another seems to be their conservative right wingers and I guess all these companies

1:57:42 profiting they care to profit. Just before the show started I had CNN on the background and the anti-constitutional host known as Fareed Zakaria had on some Russian artist. I don't know if he was an artist, like a painter or musician... Or it could be a house painter! Could be and i just caught the part where he says you know is that I speak russian and heard the president's interview and he did not make any direct connection between gays and pedophiles this was completely made up And Zakaria comes back with, yes but you're a personal friend of Vladimir Putin aren't you? Like oh god. Oh please! That guy is such a douche. Yeah it's really bad. Wow that's actually something I would like to have heard a clip of that. After the show i'm gonna pick up some stuff but for people who are listening to this program take it from me this is a fight you don't need to have

1:58:40 You do not have to go out and fight people and say, oh man Russia's not anti-gay because you know what's gonna happen? It is not gonna end pretty for you. Yeah No Just give him a copy of the white paper and walk Give him a copy of the white paper And so I think you might want to read this but what's good is whenever you see this or you hear this, you'll know you're like Okay it just commercialism and you'll know for the next time when you're being invited to do something that you probably being soaked You're always being so probably you're invited to do something. You're being soaked That's it you're being soaked done

CHAPTER 30 / 38 Discussion

Boston Bomber Death Penalty and Missing Surveillance Video

Attorney General Eric Holder's decision to seek the death penalty for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is discussed. The hosts point out the hypocrisy of liberal officials who oppose the death penalty in principle but support it in this case. They also question why the FBI has never released the specific video footage showing the Tsarnaev brothers placing the backpacks at the marathon finish line.

dzhokhar tsarnaev· eric holder· death penalty· boston marathon· surveillance· fbi

1:59:18 Funny let's play this I got this clip that just kind of out of the blue It's got nothing to do with anything except it's kind of the hypocrisy of it all which I think we're kind of talking about and that is the hypocrisy of the of the of the Democrat liberal wing of the Political spectrum, which has always been against the death penalty and oh yes. Oh, I have some clips of this Is this a Boston bomber? Yeah? Yeah, I pulled a couple clips This is good set it up Well, apparently Holder says they should kill this kid. Yeah! With the death penalty? Wait a minute I thought this whole group of these people, the liberal people involved that run the government are all against the death penalty but this guy should be executed?!

2:00:03 calling for the death penalty against the sole surviving attacker in last year's Boston Marathon bombings. 20-year old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is pleading not guilty to killing three people in the April 15th attack, another 260 people were wounded when two pressure cooker bombs went off near the finish line of the marathon Zarnaev's older brother was also involved. He was shot dead by police in a manhunt Boston's mayor personally opposes the death penalty, he says but he supports the Attorney General's decision As you all know as a state representative I voted against that penalty if i were to ask to vote on that today I would vote the same way

2:00:44 But this is not my vote to cast or my decision to make. I support the judicial system and I support the process that Holder put on today." Now, okay, I have questions about it... Do you mind if i have two short clips? One which includes his bit? No! I want hear your analysis as mine is just a bit of... Well, I've got question for ya. I mean there may be more to it than this. The death penalty has been abolished in the state of Massachusetts Is this now all of a sudden the federal crime? Is this now different than it... where is he going to be tried I don't understand how... Did you break a federal law of terrorism, Lloyd's a terrorist. Okay well

2:01:25 I think the feds got involved and so now it takes it out of the jurisdiction of the Massachusetts State Police who are the ones who caught him. Right, right well this brings it into the federal system So first of all as you know I think if we're gonna kill people for the death penalty I want it televised I want it live but I hope we use the drugs we used last time with the guys like can't breathe he's gasping for air for 15-20 minutes he's jerking around Yeah CNN needs something No what do you mean CNN? This is our show. Oh you're talking about us doing a show? Yeah I've always believed that should be televised, just like the Romans that's what they did with the Colosseum yeah i you know we're going to kill people for that and I can't wait to see the actual video that they say everyone has seen but no one has seen the video that is there but no one has ever seen where they are actually putting the backpacks into the garbage because even the governor of the state

2:02:17 says, I haven't seen it but they tell me it's there and reliably informed that it is. Here's a question for you why don't they just show the video what's the big deal? You know its...I think it's too... They showed all of the other videos! I think it's to frightening for us to see It's too frightening to watch as they take a backpack with something in it and drop into a garbage can This is going to scare the public John national security interests I'm sorry my friend we cannot show this to you national security Don't you understand I'm responding to the news that the Department of Justice is going to be seeking a death penalty against Joe Harzaneyev if he is convicted in the Boston bombings attack. Again, that was last April three people killed more than 260 others hurt this death penalty trial will be the highest profile no doubt since the Timothy McVeigh trial Oh okay well I thought that was an interesting little combo Well how about this for a thought

CHAPTER 31 / 38 Discussion

Tsarnaev Leverage Theory and FBI Shooting of Ibragim Todashev

A theory is proposed that the death penalty is being used as leverage to keep Dzhokhar Tsarnaev from revealing details about the bombing or potential government involvement. The hosts reference the FBI's fatal shooting of Tsarnaev's associate, Ibragim Todashev, in Florida as evidence that the authorities are silencing witnesses. They suggest the entire "manhunt" was a theatrical exercise.

dzhokhar tsarnaev· ibragim todashev· fbi· death penalty· leverage· manhunt

2:03:17 Says we realize that this whole thing is a bunch of bullcrap. They've got him aside they say okay Let's assume he was working for somebody some agency or this is part of an exercise That went astray which I think was one of our original theories yes, you if you say anything about any of this or even bring up and even if your process your defense attorney brings up the things that we don't haven't got a tape of you putting the bombs in there because You know, he didn't do it. If you say anything We're going to kill you with the death penalty so that's what's gonna be on the table if you shut yeah and take this like a man we will

2:03:58 You'll get the death penalty but then we're gonna commute it, it's gonna go into something...into a system. The system is going to work around it you're not gonna get the death penalty and we'll actually get you out Yeah And while your in? We will have all kinds of friends for ya I mean that's the only reason that you use that as leverage Let's take it back a few steps Get him to shut up! Lets take it back one step What has happened with everybody involved in this case so far We had the entire, this was the largest manhunt in like US history. They had an entire... The city of Boston was shut down! And and in the theory that something went wrong wasn't supposed to happen this way we can not have these kids talking Their friend? Shot in the back of the head by the FBI unarmed

2:04:53 Remember that? Yeah, oh yeah. Oh we can't have anybody talking. No explanation And just to- so this clip I need to talk to this boy alone! Yeah Okay boss Shot him in the back of the top of the head because he was so dangerous The FBI You know or he attacked me So this clip includes that piece of the... Was it the mayor or the governor? I think that was the mayor But there's a little clue in here for us about the death penalty and everyone being all-in, which is patently not true. As you all know as a state representative I voted against the death penalty if i were to ask to vote on that today I would vote the same way but this is not my vote to cast or my decision to make I support the judicial system and I support the process that Holder... Notice he almost said secretary for some reason am quite sure why... Put on today

2:05:47 Nine months after the attack that united the city it could find itself divided over the Attorney General's announcement. A newspaper poll found that 57% of Boston residents favored life imprisonment for Zhokha Zarnaev, only 33 percent want the death penalty. Oh! 33? And let me ask you something... Why did this report mention that because it was 57 versus 33 You're missing some numbers which are not mentioned in the report. 57 plus 33 equals what? 90 Thank you, where's the rest they don't even mention that It will now be up to jurors from the Boston area to decide his fate Yeah The 10% undecided is... But they only mentioned the 33%. There it is once again We shall see but I agree with you shut up or we're gonna kill you

2:06:47 And there's been tons of things that... What other, um... Who recently got life imprisonment but not the death penalty at a federal level? Some states are crazy. Like Texas like hey I don't like you son you can kill you That's Texas. Texas is out of control Kill everybody But this is Boston Massachusetts and Holder has to come out and say we're gonna kill him We're gonna kill him! I don't have any problem killing people that's right Eric Holder You have no problem. This president and this attorney general have no problem killing people every Tuesday Let's look at the list who's on the list? Oh, oh well looks like a terrorist to me is kill him blow him blow them up We got this it's where's that? There's no fuck why do I even ask every time? Why don't you even ask where's the outrage here's an example of Would be called I don't know what did with even to call this but this is

CHAPTER 32 / 38 Discussion

The Blaze Crack Pipe Story and "Morning Zoo" Media Models

The hosts debunk a story from Glenn Beck's "The Blaze" which claimed the city of San Francisco was handing out free crack pipes. They clarify that it was a small group of activists, not a city program. They compare the production style of The Blaze to a "Morning Zoo" radio format, noting that head writer Mike Opelka is a veteran of that industry.

glenn beck· the blaze· san francisco· crack pipes· morning zoo· media criticism

2:07:54 The Blaze, which is Glenn Beck's TV network that's on certain cable systems. And they have a bunch of... Another outfit making a lot more money than we are by the way! Oh yeah! But they're selling a lot of stuff- They're into seed business too Really? Seeds and gold? Yeah seeds and gold and all that crap They haven't really got any good advertisers It's all a bunch of low end stuff junk I know one of their head writers including a real kind of acute funny looking woman, blonde who does just the regular meat puppet stuff. And then they have these panels and they... But this is the kind of crap news that's you know all one it's very political it's all whatever

2:08:36 The Democrats are all a-holes and then crazy cities like San Francisco. So I had to, I looked at this one up This was classic this crack pipe story which was used on their show just to show you how crazy and stupid the liberal San Francisco is. Lost my time cue but I got a heartwarming story out of San Francisco where they are going to try to go through on a plan to hand out clean crack pipes to crack users. It's not unlike needle exchange programs, you know for I guess people are addicted to heroin they get clean needles but the whole idea behind the needle exchange program is to try to circumvent the spread of AIDS right and blood transmitted diseases i don't understand

2:09:19 reasoning for passing out clean crack pipes other than making crack more enjoyable. San Francisco's tried these kind of things, will say bring us your homeless... we'll take in your homeless you get a stipend by the way if you're homeless. It is the cold season my friend it is the cold season. Virovirus spreads very quickly. Right. San Francisco has a way of encouraging a certain type of thing to flock to their city well that would explain how Nancy Pelosi keeps getting reelected Nancy Pelosi joke This is just a great, great example of the kind of misreporting you get on these sort these sort of alternative news stations and this is what's going on. I want to explain there is a story there but it's a small group of two or three people not San Francisco the city It's a group of people that are making a big fuss about the fact that crack pipes are actually illegal in San Francisco

2:10:16 They're totally illegal. And so there, this little group of activists about you know just that we can't even identify them it could be one guy is threatening to give away crack pipes because these crack users can't use them That's it! It's not some scheme...it's like you know it's because the AIDS they did the needle exchange now they're going do a crack pipe exchange. It's illegal This is like, this is the worst kind of misreporting based on politics so you can needle the other side and this whole idea of one side versus the other which I get with Bill Maher on one side and these idiots on the other. It's annoying it's subversive. I think some of the worst kind of thing that could be on television. And I think that I think the Blaze should be ashamed of itself for doing this sort of thing. I know one of the head writers at The Blaze coach Mike Opelka

2:11:12 And I know him because for many, many years he was the producer and writer of The Morning Zoo in New York. They have a pretty big operation they send out show prep every morning he does that and it goes to of course the back and you know then the radio guys but there's also they have affiliates Somehow I don't really know the whole structure of the blaze network But they have affiliates and it's and it's essentially he's doing the same shtick as he's always done for except instead of you Hey, everybody. It's the morning zoo It's just just insert blaze instead of zoo It's the same material posing is something else. I'm sorry that is not on the radio

CHAPTER 33 / 38 Discussion

The 2030 Club and Transhumanist Consultant FM-2030

The hosts introduce "The 2030 Club," a satirical look at various dire predictions for the year 2030, including economic collapse and resource depletion. They discuss FM-2030, a transhumanist philosopher who was cryogenically frozen. One host jokes about becoming a "transhumanist consultant" as a way to explain his career to outsiders.

2030· club of rome· mit· transhumanism· fm-2030· cryogenics· numerology

2:12:03 I mean Beck has a radio show but the Blaze is a TV show. No, it's the same material. Yeah the same model. Same material! It works this way? It'll work! I admire that they're making money and having a good time but people should be aware and cautious when they watch these sorts of things Whereas if you really track the news like we do You'd have all of these stories about 2030 It's time for the rundown. I need a jingle for this actually, it's time for the rundown! The 2030 Rundown. Okay this is all right here we go um now wait let's start let's back up a second you came up with this 2030 thing out of the blue or were you given a clue about 2030? No i was thinking about a donation level really which you still have not 30 cents you still haven't done anything with that. I'll do in the next newsletter

2:12:54 Although I like 1-2-3-3 better. I like 1-2-3-3 a lot more. So we came up, just thinking about numbers. Numerology is very interesting on our show and And I thought, okay we had Y2K which was the big disaster which is hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars in money. There were some legitimate stuff that had to be fixed but it wasn't like this Armageddon then we have 2012 and people make lots of money off these bogative numbers and then i looked at the numerology and I thought you know 2030 that seems like a good number

2:13:34 It seemed like the right amount of years to look forward to something really bad happening. And now, of course just like 33 people are sending me 2030 stories this is the Club Of Rome which is not to be underestimated... Club Of Rome these are super elites limits to growth in a study about the future of our planet I could read the whole thing to you but the bottom line 40 more years 2030 we're all gonna be dead and this was apparently an older study 2030 next Great Depression MIT study predicting global economic collapse by 2030. Well, MIT has a couple of those and Times of India headline humans will need two earths by 2030 By the way 2030 on my cycles yeah

2:14:31 Is the equivalent of 1990 at the beginning of a huge economic boom? That's why we got to be all in on this And then someone sent me this FM 2030 which apparently for freed known he's a Persian guy Farid Faridoun Esfandiari had himself cryogenically frozen. He was a transhumanist philosopher futurist and consultant How do you be a consultant in the transhumanist movement? I'm just reading. A consultant, what do you do when people are giving you a bad time about being a podcaster in Austin say your a transhumanist consultant. I need business cards Transhumanist consultant, what? I can say it with a straight face too. Try it out on me

2:15:25 Hey, good to meet you. You're Adam Curry? Yeah! What do you do now? Oh after I left MTV I became a transhumanist consultant. Oh that sounds interesting Yes...I'm cryogenically frozen As we speak FM 2030 is the game so i guess in 2030 he's that's his hundredth birthday He supposed to come back to life or something Alright time for the depression yeah So all of these will be entered into the registrar at the2030club.com, get in on it and start making your money and send us a little bit because we're promoting it! We are promoting the total Armageddon of 2030 which is fact...it's just a fact along with global cooling from the Great Lakes to the Atlantic shores and all the waterways in between It is an effect of one of the coldest Januaries on record

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EPA Chief Gina McCarthy and the "Needs of the President"

A clip of EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy is analyzed, where she calls on scientists to help the agency meet the "needs of this President." The hosts find the phrasing alarming, suggesting it implies that scientific research should be tailored to support the executive branch's political agenda rather than objective truth.

gina mccarthy· epa· barack obama· science· public health· environmental policy

2:16:25 No, that's not even possible. Ice jams they make for some spectacular winter scenery but as our Kristen Dahlgren reports they're also causing serious problems on some of the nation's most vital waterways I did not know that this was taking place everything is so frozen that they have ice breakers out in our inter... like in Lake Michigan? Lake Michigan, but also Erie would be the place where also yeah and the Hudson River and ice because It's like the North Pole dynamite Okay Dynamite thank you. And then we have Gina McCarthy Gina McCarthy is the new head of the EPA which is as you know an agency that was created by executive order by Richard Nixon and

2:17:19 and they are responsible for doing a lot of things. And she is talking to some scientists here, and she has very clear message. But scientists you folks help us understand our world You help EPA to meet our mission of public health protection in environmental protection I need you now. What? Gina McCarthy? Yes She sounds like one of those elitists that talk, you know like she reads poetry on her spare time. I think she actually has a deep maybe Boston accent This doesn't actually sound very much like her She looks like Gene McCarthy the guy who ran for president Be quiet then you can hear that gotcha in this little clip More than ever to speak the truth

2:18:09 I need you to stand up together with us and explain what the science is telling you. To tell people that science and technology improvements will allow us to take action moving forward that meets the needs of this president as he has charged EPA." It needs to meet the needs of this president. Shut up already! Science! We need to meet the President's needs Wow Uh-huh That's hardcore Okay, that would have been clip of the day if it wasn't for the other clips I already got it now You know what? you've go two today You can't load me with too many clips of the day man its just not okay Oh you don't rarely believe me

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Moms Demand Action and Facebook Gun Sale Restrictions

The "Moms Demand Action" campaign to ban gun sales on Facebook and Instagram is discussed. The hosts point out that the group is funded by Michael Bloomberg and led by a former Monsanto PR spokesperson. They argue the campaign's true goal is to eliminate private, unregulated gun sales and implement a system of universal monitoring and background checks.

moms demand action· michael bloomberg· facebook· gun control· monsanto· instagram

2:18:59 Well here's a story breaking out here. What? Another dead actor? No, this is... no not yet. Play the clip Guns on Facebook and tell me what we did there's a lot of interesting angles to this little story. In the United States you can buy shotguns, revolvers and even assault rifles on social networks. There are all manner of ads on Facebook and Instagram leading web users to second-hand firearms they can purchase without any background checks or having to provide a criminal history record It's an alarming phenomenon something the Mums Demand Action advocacy group wants to stamp out with help from online campaign launched on Monday

2:19:45 Social networkers can show their support under the end Facebook gun shows hashtag by addressing messages to the powers that be at Facebook and Instagram urging them to stop allowing this unregulated gun trade. Web users can also choose from a list of pre-written tweets highlighting for example that if you sell firearms without background checks they could fall into the wrong hands Is this the moms demand action group? That this is about Yeah, which was bought by Bloomberg just want to point that out. Which is run by a former Monsanto spokeswoman This is what we're talking about yeah Okay good And I should mention this is the second show where you've caught this this new kind of model which is pre-written tweets because you're an idiot yeah and 144 characters God you could get lost in such prose

2:20:37 So you need a pre-written tweet. I think they even have web pages where you just click on it, You click on the link and then it fills everything out. Yeah, auto tweets. And it just tweets right for ya Yeah this is a part of the whole you know get women to be Democrats. That's why moms it's always moms. This is moms demand action and the woman, and it was recently rolled into Bloomberg's mayors against guns thing I forget what it's called exactly but there's really one woman who was a PR person for Monsanto for many years and then she started her own consultancy. She changes her name and then becomes Mom's Demand Action, very shallow money-making scheme

2:21:22 And part two of it just kind of rolls out to kind of just a couple little extra gotchas in there. Because there's a third element here which is kinda disconcerting that is brought up in the conversation quite a bit, you may or may not spot it but I'll explain after this clip Wow that was sounding really condescending No, it's because it's kind of buried. You may not catch it but I'll explain it later. Well okay, what's more... I'm surprised you've never heard this law! I don't know that the NFL is a bunch of douchebags. You can't handle that can ya? You're really mad about that

2:22:00 There's also an online petition addressed to the CEOs of Facebook and Instagram, Mark Zuckerberg and Kevin Systrom. It is asking them to change their user policies and prohibit all sales and trades of guns on their platforms... ...and in particular private sales between anonymous parties The campaign instigators say both platforms should take inspiration from policies adopted by other sites like online classified ads platform Craigslist, which explicitly prohibits the buying and selling of firearms in its terms and conditions. eBay has a similar ban although it does allow trading of some gun accessories but only under certain conditions Well you're gonna have to explain it to me

2:22:42 Yeah, I know. That said it was buried but this came up in the conversation a number of times when they were talking about drug gun legislation after one of the shootings. I think that school won yeah you know whatever whichever school whatever six week one there was and so it was Oh, and they were very critical about this. They said oh the gun guys are saying that Joe won't be able to sell his guns to Bill who lives next door That's never gonna happen there is no way that bill can't sell his guns through his friend Well buried in this story it said right there that their concerned about people doing

2:23:24 you know, selling private sales of me selling you my gun without me getting a background check. It was very clear in there right? So that's bull crap! That's what they're going after the going after getting the women to vote Republican and making so if you own a gun that gun has to be completely monitored it's whereabouts has to be monitored anyway well and then so that of course is the I guess RFID or something there's gonna have to be some way to do that I kind of like it. I wouldn't mind, if that were actually law i'd be like...I would sell a gun to all of my neighbors for $1 just to get the mental check on them! That would be kinda funny. Say, you know what? I got this check and your nuts. No wonder you never have your garbage out on the right day People forget to put their garbage out We've got a note here from one of our producers which I um If you don't mind ill just read it on the fly

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Pharmaceutical Fentanyl vs. Syrian Methylfentanyl

A listener email provides a detailed breakdown of opiate strengths, noting that pharmaceutical fentanyl is expensive and usually distributed via patches or lollipops. The hosts contrast this with "methylfentanyl," a much cheaper and more potent analog. They speculate that this version is being produced in Syria or Turkey and smuggled into the U.S. as a chemical additive for heroin.

fentanyl· methylfentanyl· syria· turkey· al-qaeda· pharmaceuticals· drug potency

2:24:24 Listening to the show, I thought you guys could use some insight into what fentanyl is. Why yes we could use some insight and remember that our producing audience of The No Agenda Show is incredibly diverse and... We have big shots in all areas it's a pharmaceutical painkiller that either comes in the form of a lollipop or a time-released patch that lasts 72 hours. The lollipop actually tastes like candy, but if a drug dealer tries to sell you a morphine lollipop or a morphine patch it's actually fentanyl! In order of strength the list goes as follows 1. Codeine 2. Hydrocodone which is Vicodin 3. Oxycodone which is Percocet or Oxycontin 4. Morphine 5. Hydromorphon 6. Oxymorphone

2:25:18 7. iPhone, 7. Fentanyl He says what I don't quite understand is how they could cut hair with fentanyl and keep the drug as cheap as it is? Fentanyl is expensive! It's an American pharmaceutical AND IT'S EXPENSIVE The reason that so many people overdose is that instead of wearing the patch for 72 hours they cut it open and eat the drug inside Ah... to give you an example on how much a person can handle at once A lollipop comes in strengths between 400-1200 micrograms And the patch should be worn for 72 hours, typically has about 10 milligrams. I prefer to stay anonymous for this email... I didn't mention his name. Okay! This is very funny. So I mentioned that we have people who are experts in all fields? Here's his credentials. I'd prefer to say anonymous for this email because years ago i had a problem with opiates. I'm clean now and have been for three years good on you. I would prefer not to have this message attached to my name. All right

2:26:19 He does have a website that I won't mention either just not connected to anything. Well, that's interesting if it really now is made in Syria Inexpensively why is this so expensive here? I think he's just the drug I think it's gouging It must be gouging and the cheap stuff that's flooding The streets must be coming in from Syria Why not know it must be and in fact check out this little link that I found might help us. Israel's military chief has said that some of the Al-Qaeda militants going to fight in Syria have bases in neighboring Turkey! There you go, so why don't we take the... maybe this chemical weapons is something maybe we misunderstood? Maybe the chemicals are something else? Well the chemical weapon thing is weird because

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MV Cape Ray and the Destruction of Syrian Chemical Weapons

The hosts discuss the deployment of the MV Cape Ray, a U.S. Navy container ship tasked with neutralizing Syrian chemical weapons at sea. They connect this to their previous discussion on methylfentanyl, suggesting the "destruction" of these chemicals might actually be a cover for diverting them into the illicit drug market or other clandestine operations.

mv cape ray· syria· chemical weapons· navy· methylfentanyl· maritime· disarmament

2:27:07 The Navy, and I have the report here. This is not being reported. The only place you're going to report this or hear about this is on All Hands Radio which comes right out of NAVSEC and which is the Secretary of the Navy's...the only guy who has a website. And you are the only person in that viewing audience? I mean another guy. Their Nielsen's are not looking good. NavSec guy, our Secretary of the Navy probably listens to it but if you listen to this is quite interesting because this is the all-hands radio that...I have the whole thing you have to cut it off because I didn't clip it because I didn't have time but at beginning in the report talks about what they're going to do they're going actually take the chemicals

2:27:51 put them on some crazy ships that they're gonna have specially outfitted and just supposedly destroy them at sea. Yeah, and we're worried about Fukushima! I find the whole thing to be peculiar This is All Hands Radio News, I'm Petty Officer Tyrell Morris That's the gig for me by the way right there. I'm petty officer Adam Curry This is the all hands radio news the container ship MV Cape Ray and her crew deployed this week from Portsmouth, Virginia Cape ray is part of a DoD initiative to assist in the neutralization of serious chemical weapons Sec def said that deployment is the first of its kind as chemical weapons have never been destroyed on a vessel at sea and international waters

2:28:36 The surface Navy is taking a page from the aviation community by standing up their own version of the highly selective top gun program. Okay, that's it. He goes from story to story and he doesn't have any breaks. Hey hold on a second...the Syria thing I think that was methyl fentanyl Not fentanyl, but methylfentanyl. I think it's essentially the same product It's an analog but its much cheaper to produce Why wouldn't we use that? Yeah. I think that is what we are using in heroin Well thats what were using in the heroin yeah well 3-methylfentyl was initially sold on the black market for only a short time between 84 and 85 its high potency made it attractive target to clandestine drug producers

2:29:18 10 to 15 times more potent than fentanyl. There you go, that's the stuff we want Yeah hell with Fentanyl That's what pussies as training wheels son You want your methyl fentanyl MF for short so the whole thing is and and ho-ho oh my goodness three methylfentanyl was also reported by Russian media as the identity of the anesthetic gas Cola call one used in the Moscow theater hostage crisis in 2002. It's used as a chemical weapon nice Maybe it's just a bunch of metal and there's gonna be hold on the ship and not destroy it Exactly I ate it blend with heroin no, what do you mean? It's already unloaded on our shores okay

2:30:13 Why did they dump it? It's like, hey yeah not those. Put that in the water! Yeah remember the Bin Laden thing wink-wink wink-wink we're doing one of those yeah we're throwing it in the ocean...it says right here in The Book Of Knowledge used as a chemical weapon okay so we're being confused with this so the whole thing yeah this is a complete This is a information screw job. But this is great! Chemical weapon, yeah... Methyl fentanyl. Yeah, methyl fentanyl. And uh... The Navy ship which was a container ship by the way if you listen to that report. Yeah did they have like a crane and everything? It's a container ship meaning it holds a lot of stuff A lot of- yeah. Wow

2:31:12 It's the knockout gas. This is very sketchy! It makes so much sense, we take this stuff and like man this is good stuff what do we have? I got some iPhone 3's, fuck throw that shit overboard man, get the fuck... Throw that overboard! And then we're like... Welcome to New York Harbor. Welcome to Philadelphia. Welcome to San Francisco Welcome to Vermont. Hey, what you got? Oh nothing much. Drop off this one container cargo container. How? Containership! Wow yeah you know if the world weren't so crazy and I hadn't seen so much nutty stuff in all my 50 years i would literally turn this podcast off and roll my eyes and go... Turn it off and scream These guys are morons like no no instead we're gonna leave you on this high note so to speak

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Central African Republic Conflict and Show Outro

The hosts conclude the episode by teasing a future discussion on the escalating humanitarian crisis in the Central African Republic. They sign off from "FEMA Region 6" in Austin and "Northern Silicon Valley," wishing listeners well and anticipating the results of the Super Bowl.

central african republic· seattle seahawks· austin· silicon valley· podcast· sign-off

2:32:21 Yay, I want to talk about the Central African Republic on next Thursday's show cuz all hell is breaking loose there Nobody wants to talk about it looking forward to in fact our economic hitman said we're the only place that he can find anything Anybody talking about it. It's us think it's a huge humanitarian problem We will be talking about that and of course celebrating The Seahawks win From your tax dollars All right, John. Are you watching the game at home? You going somewhere? No no it's not in bed I'm gonna watch it all my probably flip a few of the commercials probably not actually I think about yeah It's gonna cook a meal and watch the game nice. I'm gonna hang out with Miss Mickey We're gonna watch the game let me fun we both enjoy men with tight asses alright coming to you from FEMA region 6

2:33:15 Here in Austin Tejas, Gitmo Nation. The drone star state in the morning everybody my name is Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where the rain has stopped at least for a minute or two which I'd rather have it raining again back to the rain stick I'm John C Dvorak we are your petty officers here in Gitmo nation bringing you the hourly news We'll talk to on Thursday right here on NOAA JETLA Adios mofos! The best podcast in the universe! Dvorak.org slash N-A-W