Message from the Future

00:00 It's time for the thot. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah. It's Thursday, January 9th, 2013. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 581. This is no agenda. With intent to coerce, intimidate, and harass. From FEMA Region 6 here in the Travis Heights Hideout in Austin, Texas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And for those in Silicon Valley where we haven't seen rain in over a year, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. What? You haven't seen rain in over a year. That's bullcrap. It's pretty close to it. We had rain yesterday. We don't have we haven't had any rain this entire rain season. No, we had a nice rain yesterday during the night and it's nice and gray and moist and a little rainy today. That's perfect. Of course, we've gone back up to 60 degrees from sub-zero temperatures. That's wild. Yeah, no, it's great. It's great. It's great. There's so much to talk about today, John. I did want to start off with something

01:01 that is not a typical No Agenda topic, but you will not hear this on any other... you won't even hear this or read about it too much on blogs or podcasts, etc. because of the nature of what it is. It's the Podcast Awards. No, that's not what it is, but since you bring it up, we had representation at the Podcast Awards this year. Sergeant Fred. Yeah, did Sergeant Fred bring his AK-47 and shoot up the place? No, but he did apparently stand up in the middle of the award ceremony and shout, in the morning! Good for him. And he got a little piece of audio for us with the, what would you call that? The guy who runs the podcast awards. That would be... The guy who decides to dress up for it, that guy?

01:54 He's got like jeans. Is he wearing jeans? I don't know. Todd Cochran is a nice guy and he supports this show. Okay. What's his name? Todd Cochran. Todd Cochran. Todd, hey Todd. Come on. JC Penney's at least. And Sergeant Fred did a little clip for us. Todd Cochran, he is the host that brought you the 9th annual podcast awards. And right now I'm recording this because I am one of the producers who is representing Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak here from No Agenda. How cool is that? We have represent... Is he from Canada? No, Sergeant Fred's from Texas. Wow. Yeah, he's a great guy.

02:36 But we have representation. And I noticed Todd that there is one category. They are nominated for probably the best podcast in the political space, politics, but there's one category that's missing and that is the best podcast in the universe! And if that were the case, who would win it? Well, it would obviously be No Agenda. Noagendashow.com. Thank you, Todd. Very funny. Meanwhile, we won nothing. Oh, by the way, I have I think for the second time in a row now I've said in the opening is 2013 but it's 2014. I'm sorry the teleprompter needed to be updated. That's my mistake. Oh, you said 2013? Yeah. Yeah. No, that's so chat room is good. That's like when you get older it never just does this stuff, you know, they say well

03:22 As you get older, you'll notice how long, you know, it takes how many months before you put your, do you sign your checks with the right date? Right on the money. In fact, most of last year I was signing 2014. Right. Right. So what I wanted to bring up is Marissa Meyer's keynote at the Consumer Electronics Show. And did you have a chance to see this? Really? Yeah, really. Okay. Well, I don't think there'd be anything to see. Well, I don't think you're going to hear much about this because I did watch this. As you know, I've been following Marissa Meyer. I've been a fan of hers, of what she's been doing. That can be, but go on. Yeah. I think she is going to nail it with Yahoo. And I believe that anyone who is in the so-called tech news reporting, anyone who is in, essentially anyone who is in the USA Today market,

04:21 Or even what AOL thinks they are, they need to be afraid because Yahoo is going to do it. Alright, well a couple of things before you play the clips. I just have one, no, no, it's more an analysis. I do have one clip just for yucks, but go ahead. You might be onto something because I've always been convinced she's a poor choice for the job, and I had to assume Although I never wrote about this, but I had to assume she had some massive idea or pitch that got her the job. And so what you're talking about may actually be what it is. Absolutely. Are you on the ADSL today? No, I'm on the same old good stuff. Why is it breaking up? I sound like crap. No, it's stuttering from time to time. It's okay.

05:14 Uh, yeah, no, uh, I think that is exactly what's going on. She, her pitch, I found to be... and by the way, this is everything that we, we stand for everything opposite for what she is doing. Just so you, this is, it's not like, oh boy, I want to work with her. Uh, and let me start off by saying I loved her outfit. Oh, well now I gotta go at least look at that. Get a picture because she had this knee-high three-quarter sleeve Oscar de la Renta number on that was perfect. It matched the Yahoo color. Now I'm not a fan of dark stockings. I think stockings by themselves shouldn't happen. But here is an actual woman. She's not a model, but she's playing the CEO role like you would expect a great woman to do. I'm extremely impressed.

06:03 And she's really setting out to do the USA today of the web. What AOL was, you know, when we were still using dial-up. And I think she's going to give a lot of big arrogant players a run for their money, John. It's really possible. She had, you know, Katie Couric came up to explain. So the main things they're launching is Yahoo Food, which is smart. Because that market is so ready to be captured. There's all the celebrity chefs, the cable channels make so much sense. And she's integrating the advertising into it, not with crappy ass banners, but really letting craft take over entire sections. It's what was inevitable. Changing this display ad format of, this is what a banner is, all of that has been thrown out the window. I think smartly so.

06:56 completely redoing news. They have Katie Couric and of course what's the guy from The Times, Pogue. And Pogue, although he's highly irritating and is not... He's totally irritating. But he's irritating to us. But what he's saying is people want technology news but they want to know how to, you know, they do want to see what Kim Kardashian thinks is the best iPhone. He didn't say that per se, but it's just they just want to know how to put the new printer cartridges into their printer. They want really simple answers, not what the elitist Silicon Valley, San Francisco and also New York technology press thinks the audience is. And I think they're spot on with that, really spot on, which is why you're not going to hear anyone lamenting this keynote or how on target they are. Then they bring out

07:49 Katie Couric. I've always thought Katie Couric was great and I guess she kind of messed up there and it kind of, you know, everything kind of went away. She's also a screamer. Well, what was interesting, and here's the thing that I really did not like, so this entire keynote was scripted. So I have no idea who Marissa Meyer is. I don't think I've ever met her. Maybe I saw her in the distance one time and like, whatever. I've never met her and I'm in the business. But because it was completely scripted and Marissa Meyer cannot read from a prompter, she tries to improvise and you know smoke was flowing from underneath the dress. I mean, cannot do it. Two things happen. One, she comes across as a moronic robot who has trouble breathing.

08:41 Well, we're really excited about here Yahoo! I'm telling you, it's so... She might not be used to working a big room. Well, she's got to learn and she's got to learn to just be herself. Quit the reading, but then when Katie Couric comes on... She's kind of snooty as herself, it's always seemed to me. I have no idea. This is part of the problem. You need some personality when you're doing this stuff and you need to be a little bit yourself. Particularly when you bring Katie Couric up, who is a prompter pro. She reached the prompter. Oh yeah, and a bubbly person. She's a telegenic personality. Yes, but Marissa is telegenic too. No, she's, yeah, she's photogenic too. She's telegenic, photogenic, and probably pretty in person, which is the big three. Yeah. But, but yeah. Let me write that down. Telegenic, photogenic, and in person. It's the big three, everybody. It is. Very nice. Okay.

09:37 So Katie Couric comes up and then... And the funny thing about the big three, not everybody is the big three. Most people are one or two or one or two of them. Oh no, it's very hard to have the big three, I agree. And she's doing little jokes off the prompter, she's doing some shtick. She's, I think, I don't, I didn't clip it, but she said, I'm so old that back in the day harass was two words. Yeah, okay, that was funny. And so she's doing a little bit of shtick, but she's so good at reading the prompter and being casual. And she just completely nails it. And then you put her next to Marissa. And this is the clip I made. Marissa, just a brief introduction or a follow up because Katie's already done like 10, 15 minutes of great material. Then so you can hear how she just boom, boom, boom, she's nailing, she's selling the message. And then how Marissa comes back and how poor

10:29 How poor her presentation... Clearly I'm setting us up for a pitch for the Curie Dvorak Consulting Group because Marissa needs a lot of help. So let's just listen to this. Noisy, wonderful world we live in and that's why I could not be more excited to be part of the Yahoo team. Katie could you tell us a little bit? Yes, I'm ready. Now did you just hear this? She forgot to leave a little pause there. She jumped the prompter. She dumped the prompter but then she also goes, yeah and then she blew it. But she blew it twice. Listen to the sound. First she didn't allow for the, she was obviously too much

11:10 She's self-conscious and she wasn't paying attention. She wasn't really actually working in the room at all. No, she wasn't even listening. She's just reading along until it says Marissa speak. And then she goes, oh yes, like a seal. We live in. And that's why I could not be more excited to be part of the Yahoo team. Katie, could you tell us a little bit? Yes, I'm going to. Could you tell us a bit more about some of what you're hoping to do at Yahoo? What are you trying to do, Yahoo? What are you trying to do? I think one of the most exciting things for me personally about the opportunity at Yahoo is it really is a blank slate. As many of you know, I really enjoy interviewing. So I'm very excited. And listen to the very important what she's about to say. There is some real nugget in here. Prospective interviewing newsmakers, politicians, sports figures, philanthropists.

12:10 all kinds of different people, obviously tech leaders, social entrepreneurs, authors, and really anyone who we believe has an important and interesting story to tell. And since we live, as Marissa has talked about, in such a fragmented media world, the extraordinary global reach of Yahoo... This is very important what she's saying. While everyone is moving behind the firewall, in their desperate attempt to make money, which of course restricts the audience of an interviewee. which is a big problem because if your PR company wants to get as much reach for you as possible, yet you're... To be on the biggest megaphone that you can find. Yeah, you don't want to be behind the paywall on the Wall Street Journal or the New York Times. You want to be out in front in the global reach of Yahoo! And she's inviting every single one of these people, this Katie Couric. Very smart. It's tremendously exciting, not only for me, but for potential interview subjects.

13:09 And we're also in the process, Marissa, of reimagining... That was an ad lib, by the way. We're also in the process, Marissa. That was an ad lib. That's how you do Prompter, Marissa. Pay attention. I think how we can take both original and curated content and deliver it in a much more thorough and useful way, particularly on mobile devices. So all those things are very exciting and I can't wait to get started. I can't wait either and I'm excited to see your first interviews. Thank you. Alright, thanks for having me. I can't wait either. Sounds like Alex Jones. So good to see you. Good to see you too. Thanks everybody. Now listen, now listen, now listen. BOOM! We got produced! Now bring back the energy of Marissa Meyer. Let's hear it for Marissa! As Katie said, the news landscape has become fragmented. It's becoming increasingly difficult to find exactly what you're looking for. And then she brings out that 12 year old kid she bought something from.

14:07 Some the Summly kid. I'll write that software package. And he was reading from the prompter. By the way, Pogue is also doing something smart. He's going to review Kickstarter projects. Hello, how's the... It's almost like Ron Bloom is running Yahoo. I'm telling you, it is this... It is so exactly... Except now it's time for this. Now it is time for this. And the native advertising is going to be 50% of their content. Because the content Or the ads, the ad network is really the distribution mechanism. So it's all going to be advertisers making content, and by the way, it won't suck, I think it's probably gonna be good.

14:47 Yeah, it'll suck. It'll suck for us because, look John, if when you turn... Who's doing that? Yeah, the only thing and the only reason, and I'll stop because it's not that important, but if you turn on the television, you look at cable and you look at Bravo and look at E and you look at just all the reality stuff and even what History Channel or A&E has become, it's what people want. It's what the 80% of the people want. And instead of being elitist and guffawing, and particularly the technology press will be guffawing at this a lot. In fact, I saw this week in Google, they actually showed some of the Yahoo technology site and were, oh, that's so stupid, so lame, which is like the stupidest thing you can do. That's stupider than being stupid. But okay.

15:36 This is going to be very very successful because it is exactly that low level of common denominator. No, it's what people want. You always drop into this. Yeah, but it's what... This is years ago going on about how great reality shows were. Yes, if you want to make money that way. Now, of course, we are not interested in that so we're not we're not going to do this. And it just proves to me again that we're going to be poor for a very long time. I can't bring myself to do this crap. But they're on the right track. It's one of those things, you're not going to hear a lot of people talk about it because they're deathly afraid. And this is exactly... I don't think that's the reason. They're probably just ignoring it. No, no, no. Okay, fine.

16:25 They're ignored. No, seriously. I don't think so. I ignored it. I didn't pay any attention to it. I'm not deathly afraid. No, but you are all... No, because you're not running an entertainment company. You're not running a technology news company. That's why you're not afraid. I'm not afraid. I don't give a crap. But I am a fan of Marissa Meyer. I think she's doing some interesting stuff. And I'll say, I like that she's being a woman while doing it, not some bull dyke. More Oscar de la Renta is what I say. Bring it on Marissa. Anyway. God, it's a little warm in here. Miss Mickey is out photographing brains again so I have no claim against... Yeah, the... Oh, you don't... Yeah, she hasn't publicized this, I don't think. She's been doing an entire series of brains.

17:14 Brains? Actual brains, yes. Like, lamb brains, human brains, cow brains, human brains, bad brains? Human brains. She's already, I think she's done like ten or whatever. Yeah, our buddy Professor Russ, the brain, the official brain professor of the No Agenda Show. Yeah, what about him? He has a whole bunch of brains up there. He's got bottled brains? He's got bottled brains up there in the lab. And she's just taking pictures of them? Yeah, and she gets to move them around and do whatever she wants. I know. That's just a balance. Okay, I don't know if she's allowed to bounce him around. Oh Okay. Anyway, everybody welcome to the best podcast in the universe not even second and bullcrap. It's no second Who told you that I? Got an email from from Ryan. He says Adam I was thinking about your recent show and how girls are taking over the tech shows and You and John's have definitely followed this model for your new email show with a twist

18:16 He says you should call it SheMails on emails. Oh god. Exactly. All right so that was just the crap I had to get out of the way besides the fact that it is national, what is it today? Today we're actually we're in the middle of cervical health awareness month. That's good. Yeah well that's for HPV so you'll see a lot of Gardasil propaganda a lot of promotion for drugs this month. Yeah, get the year started right mm-hmm I've if you hit one I can play a couple of things I have to because I guess a couple of questions I have to ask you you know that's why I'm here

18:58 So you want to play the jingle for the swine flu minute? Yeah, I'm happy. I got a couple things on that myself. Here we go. I also want to thank the... who did that jingle by the way? Is that... I think that's Sir Jeff. I'm not sure. Maybe. Sounds like a Sir Jeff production. It turned out to be useful for more than just that one season. Yeah, we got it in 2009. I have two flu clips. One of them is of course the regular flu clip and the second is the follow-up which has the pitch for motion to get a shot. So let's play flu part one. This is a question. In recent years, Regional Medical Center has put up this flu tent outside. Inside today, doctors treated patients who were not critically ill with the hopes of sending them home the same day.

19:49 It's a sign of just how fast the flu may be spreading in the Bay Area. Today, Regional Medical Center of San Jose set up four hospital beds inside this tent next to the ER to absorb the overflow of patients. Because of this we felt that the emergency department had the potential to become somewhat overwhelmed and we wanted to be able to treat these patients quickly and safely. The hospital has seen up to 70 more patients a day come in with flu-like symptoms. Most have tested positive for H1N1, which caused the worldwide pandemic in 2009. A Crosstown Valley Medical Center says it's seen a similar dramatic spike in flu cases in the past 48 hours. All right, you have a question for me John. I actually have two questions now that I listened to that clip. All right.

20:35 One, if you remember during the H1N1 2009 pandemic, everybody and their sister got shots. In fact, I had photos of people who were lined up around the block getting the shots. Yes, lined up around the block. they were lined up around the block which means most people got shots I think for this that little episode. I guess are you are they now telling us that the shots was no good and help because of these because part two of the question is if everybody's testing for H they're testing positive for H1N1 then obviously the earlier shot didn't do anything or just crapped out after you. What was, tell me, give me some explanation here, Dr. Curry. All right, well thank you for asking, esteemed colleague, Dr. Dvorak.

21:19 First of all, we must hearken back to 2009 when the actual pandemic was created not by an abundance of people receiving the flu, but by the lowering of standards of what equated to a pandemic by the World Health Organization. Right, right. I agree with that. So there was not necessarily an actual pandemic, but the baseline was lowered. Right, it was called a pandemic, and that's the term I'm using. Now what I'm missing from the reporting here is that at the time we were told that each H1N1 flu and flu season was unique. And we would have to receive a new unique shot every year for the new uniqueness of the unique H1N1. Well, uniqueness refers to the Hs like H2N3, H4, H7, yeah. But H1N1's the same as H1N1 was then. I recall at the time they even said that that could vary, that this was the particular H1N1. I'm just... Okay, well that's bullcrap, but let's go on with the second part of this. The second part... Oh, sorry. The second question is...

22:20 Have you ever had the flu? Yes, in fact I had the flu. Have you ever gone to the doctor for the flu? No, I've never gone to the doctor for the flu. You know people who have ever gone to the... I have actually, I think years ago and I remember other people that go to the doctor for the flu. I know some people who've gone to the doctor. When do they test you for H1N1? You go in, they say you have the flu, they tell you what to do, and then you leave. Are they giving people blood? Are they sucking blood out of people? No. In fact, I believe that they will diagnose you as having flu-like symptoms. They will not even say you have the flu, you have flu-like symptoms. Yes. So how are all these people testing positive for H1N1? Is it possible, John?

23:04 that we are under attack by the pharmaceutical industry with the PR move to try and get us to get more pharmaceuticals into our bodies? That's not answering the question, but it may be a fact. Okay, let's go to part two, which is where they promote the flu shot and then they have a little gotcha in there to really get you going on this, wanting to get that flu shot. Chills, body aches, coughs, coughing, runny nose, symptoms of- Hold on a second, stop. So this is a doctor they have on the screen and he says, Rennie News. I wouldn't go to a doctor that ever said Rennie News. Those are to be avoided. Rennie News. Yeah. Can I continue? Yes, please. And this is a doctor? That was a doctor there and now they cut away at them. I'm going to go back to the Rennie News.

23:59 Chills, body aches, coughs, coughing, runny nose, symptoms typical of the flu. To date there have been five flu related deaths across the Bay Area including two reported in Marin County today. Neither person had received the flu vaccine. It's not too late to get your shot. Peak flu season in California is January through March. And tomorrow morning the hospital says it will set up an even larger tent in its parking lot. It will hold three times as many patients and it will continue to use that tent throughout this flu season. All right. Yes, they have to use the tent. They got tents all over the place. I picked up a note, a little ditty here about a death, a swine flu, H1N1 virus related death.

24:47 From Portland, Oregon. Good evening, I'm Nina Melhoff. We start with the spread of the flu turning deadly. A five-year-old boy from Eugene has died and local emergency rooms are quickly filling up with other flu victims. That's the top story from the night team's Art Edwards. He's live at OHSU where the boy died despite desperate calls. efforts to save his life. What doctors are telling us right now is that mostly they're seeing H1N1, that's the swine flu. It is the same strain of flu that caused a pandemic back in 2009 that killed thousands of people. Here's the problem with this report. There's a follow-up. This is a written report. A five-year-old Eugene, Oregon boy died from flu-related complications in late December after health officials say he caught the H1N1 virus

25:31 Uh, Calandra Burgess said her son Ronan received the flu vaccine in November. All three of my children had the nasal spray. My other two kids didn't get sick at all, she said. So the mother of this five-year-old is saying, yeah, well, he got the- he got the vaccine! Oh really? Funny how they don't mention that in this little ditty. Well they mentioned the two in the Marin County who dropped dead they didn't have a shot they say. I think NBC takes the cake with this. NBC had a report which wow and this Well, I'll just play it and we'll point out the obvious bits here. ...season the CDC is out with new flu numbers tonight, almost on schedule... Almost on schedule? You mean the advertising by schedule or the schedule on getting everything at Walgreens? I mean, what schedule? ...it is getting worse. Fully half the states in the US are now reporting widespread flu activity. This time though, a lot of younger adults are getting hit by it. We get the story tonight from our chief medical editor, Dr. Nancy Snyder.

26:32 We're seeing a lot of people who were previously healthy in the 30s, 40s and 50s getting very sick with flu. I had the flu two weeks ago and I believe probably because I had the H1N1 in 2009 which I did not die from, I did not feel incredibly like I was going to die. It was not a nice flu. It took about a week. I lived. I was not the healthiest individual at the time. I did have to stop smoking because it was just I couldn't smoke and breathe. Which, by the way, is kind of a common thing you figure out later in life. Usually with the H1N1 type of influenza. Just a few weeks ago, the Centers for Disease Control reported widespread influenza activity in 10 states. Numbers released today show that has more than doubled to 25 states with widespread flu activity. Texas has been one of the hardest hit. Now, I happen to live here.

27:25 And we have friends here and interact with people and we're out and about. I've not heard any people going, oh my god! Can you believe this pandemic? I can't believe it. You've got a big university sitting right there with a target audience for that flu. People dropping left and right? Sandra Wallen. It should be nothing but trouble. I was just saying, your university there, which has got 40,000 students, should be reporting problems. I haven't heard Professor Russ go, oh my god, it's just that the classrooms are empty. I'm gonna ask him though, I'll ask him. Sandra Rawlins, who just got her flu shot at this Houston area Walgreens. Oh, let's bring in the sponsor! At this Houston area Walgreens, there we go! Has been sick before and says she never wants to go through that again. Now listen to her messaging. It was miserable. Several months with flu and then the pneumonia. Wait, several months with flu? Several months with flu and pneumonia? Wait, it gets better!

28:24 It's just, it puts you out for several months. Months? Several months! Buzzkill Jr. had it. Yeah, there's a couple things about that where I should mention. He had it and he just got over it. It took him about a week, but he actually took Tamiflu while having the flu which actually lessens the length of the flu. But his wife, now wife, took Tamiflu right off the bat and she got through it without any problem. She never got the flu. I always have my relenza at the ready and I never, I didn't get it, but I still have to use the relenza. But here's what I thought was interesting. The Tamiflu, which used to be over the counter without insurance at 90 bucks because of Obamacare is now $300. They, insurance company pays $200 of it.

29:17 or almost $200 of it and you have to pay $105. So before insurance it used to be $90 and now that you got insurance it's $105. It's an unbelievable scam the way they're pulling this pharmaceuticals, they're pulling this price rigging, and the government does nothing about it. The Obamacare can't do anything about it because really the insurance companies are doing everything and they're putting up with it because it's all part of some sort of a kickback deal. And this is just completely out of control. So I'm going to have to pay like what I used to have to pay less than $100 for, I'm going to have to pay hundreds of dollars for with insurance. So you can get one of those FSA spending accounts. Let me tell you how much fun that is.

30:01 I told you we got this right? Yeah, you got an FSA. We pay so much out of pocket because insurance won't cover it, particularly for Mickey, the stuff that really helps Mickey. Yeah, and so the first three times she's tried to pay with this thing, it's either declined, Or they accepted it and then they send you a note and they say well you know the IRS is going to come and check on you unless you can prove that this was a valid... I mean it's like it's almost you don't want to go through that process. Another scam is what you're saying. Yes, but on the website for the FSA they have a store so if you want to buy... Oh that's interesting here let me I have to draw my story in. Let me let me just finish what you can buy on so you can use your debit card on the FSA website

30:46 for contact lens solution. I think tampons are covered. It's like a General Mills website. It's just consumer goods that are loosely related to medical stuff. And that you can buy with your FSA tax-free debit card, but try and give it to an actual doctor and you have to jump through all these hoops. Yeah, I'm noticing this is going on. Humana has a drug program, one of these donut hole deals. And if you use it, if you ever use it, you get a phone call and they say, yeah, hey, you get a phone call. Hey, we see that you used it. You know, if you ordered it directly from us. Yeah, there you go.

31:31 Instead of the pharmacy, my loyal pharmacy where I can go get an emergency pill. I mean the pharmacy is very useful to have a pharmacist that you know. Yeah. When they're, oh, I forgot to get it. You know, I forgot to renew something. You can just run down there as opposed to ordering online. But they try, they're trying to, they're trying to cut out the pharmacies, these drug, these insurance companies. Yeah. It's unbelievable. You mean they just, they just want you to have a health provider The health provider will be some programmed bot at the doctor's office who plays a video for you and says here's what you should take and they'll just mail it directly to your home I think Exactly what's going or they have one day delivery through Amazon and and Amazon drugs Amazon pharmacy do you have Amazon will have you put in a red book Amazon will have a pharmacy you have the book

32:26 So obvious. You're right. You are absolutely right. It's so obvious. And of course, they're rebooting. I mean, we've already known that Watson was going to become, which will be the thing that prescribes the drugs, the out for IBM. So I'm listening to the business report. This is yesterday and they've decided, I guess they didn't get enough publicity for this. So play the, this is a report that came out yesterday, the Watson reboot clip. And it's like, wait a minute. Think like this is not new. I think this is actually in the red book this what we're about to hear VM supercomputer The one with analytical software that beat human contestants on the game show Jeopardy a few years back Well three years after the company began seriously marketing Watson as having the ability to learn helping corporate clients tackle business and social problems Watson is apparently struggling smart as he is to make money Reports say total revenue was less than 100 million dollars as of October

33:22 October but IBM promises a major announcement about its Watson use unit on Thursday Hoping finally that Watson is smart enough to make some I'm gonna make a prediction Tyler. Yeah healthcare healthcare Wow You should be on the no agenda show. You're so incredibly smart. I'm gonna make a prediction healthcare. Yeah, there was some problem one of their big customers IBM this is what IBM does and I have the article here, one of the first big projects, University of Texas, the Anderson Cancer Center,

34:03 They had this is where they thought they were gonna make a lot of a lot of money with with Watson, but it isn't quite Delivering the way they expected it to and so you know this is the big focus And I guess they have some big announcement is that today Thursday being today John for this it would be today right so it might happen during the show I could it could could be breaking news But we predicted this, we said that Watson was going... because of course a computer is so much smarter than a physician. You just have to put all the data known to man in there and just like Jeopardy, it'll just pop out the answers. Oh, you need this cancer drug. This leukemia? We'll just give you this stuff. Yeah, so yeah. This is in the book.

34:49 It is in the book. We picked that up right during the Phony Baloney Jeopardy show which was just a scam. You remember I interviewed Ken Jennings about, I should get those clips again, he was like yeah whatever, sure the computer won. Ken Jennings was the most winningest guy ever. It won for one reason and one reason only. It had all the answers. It could hit the button faster. Yeah, it had the answers. Well, yeah, it had the answers and it could hit the button faster than any human. Exactly. That was the key. It was just a reflex. So, it was just a... And it got so much attention. Of course. I thought it was a scam from the get-go. I did something yesterday which I think you'll be proud of, well, you'll be happy about. I sent an email to Uncle Don and Aunt Meg

35:35 and said we're... asking for a meeting with Bobby? No, I said I want a meeting with him. Yeah, well you should have a meeting with him. I said we're coming to New York, we want to take you guys out to dinner, we need to talk. And the impetus for this or the inspiration or the whatever. Actually a number of things, some things we'll talk about later today. Of course my uncle being a long time high-level CIA operative but also ambassador. He's in the Wikipedia. He's in the Wikipedia, Donald Gregg. But not with his height though and he is tall. He's over six feet two I think. Oh well why don't you put it in? You know you can put it in. I should. Also he was ambassador to South Korea,

36:17 Ran what I think was a front organization, the Korean Society, and he's still out there giving speeches. I think he's doing a winter class at some university. He's a fantastic guy. But particularly about this Rodman business, because you'll recall that he essentially agrees... The last time Dennis Rodman went to North Korea, My uncle went on Fareed Zakaria and said this is kind of right, you know All these guys want up there is to be treated as an equal. They don't want armistice. They want to be in an individual independent country They're not looking to blow anybody up. But okay, if you want to, you know, keep up this charade of oh, they're so scary and so CNN did some interview with Dennis Rodman and the only and of course this is it's so smartly done and

37:09 by the prestitute whores. Because, you know, God forbid we have anyone make any sense and say anything. No, we have to air the piece where Rodman, clearly his lip ring is in the way. No one understands what you're saying. This is like when they did the flu story in Texas. I was thinking, well, let's bring out one of those toothless wonders to represent Texas. I got crap from somebody, by the way, because they liked that we highlighted that as bullcrap. propaganda about people in the South. The guy lives in New York City. He said, but then you were, you went on, you kept doing it and that was like really hard and people think I'm stupid in New York because of my accent and I'm like, okay, whatever. Can I talk like this? Yeah, with no truth. Hey boy, can I get myself a drink? Only if I have a flu shot with it.

37:58 So here is the pertinent this is the piece from the Dennis Rodman interviews before you go on to that guy you can tone it down you don't have to have a Horrid southern accent if you're in an area where it's not appreciated it just tone it down I agree I agree that but I diction lessons there are so many Can you imagine in New York with all those Broadway theaters how many voice coaches there are they work cheap? Yeah I'm getting packet loss from you. I have no idea why. It's okay still, but if it gets any worse... If it gets worse, if you call me it might be better. Let me call you right now because I just want to do this. It'll be worth it. Calling Skype. Connecting. There you go. We'll see how this goes.

38:59 So as you know, we like to play the things you don't hear or highlight the things you won't read or just talk about things that are just not discussed at all. And in this case, there was a piece of Dennis Rodman speaking coherently, which of course is not repeated by the mainstream media, which I wanted to play. And this by itself again, has spurred me on to reach out to my uncle to go and get the real deal from him, get some inside info which I know I can squeeze out of him. One day, one day, this door's gonna open because these 10 guys here, all of us, Christy, Ben, Dennis, Charles, all these guys, I mean everybody here, we could just open the door just a little bit for people to come here

39:57 And Dennis makes a great point. There are other Americans here on this trip. You have to understand that we're not alone. We're in passage with about 50 people. There are other Americans that have been to Korea, in and out of Korea. They're here on a tour. They're here with us. We interacted with them as well. The key is you can bait Dennis or any of us into a political conversation. So this kind of goes on for a little while, but what the point these guys are making is don't believe the stupid media. You can travel to Korea, there are trips you can go on, there's a ski resort. They're open for business.

40:37 Yeah, just you know, and oh, and gee, turns out that that story about Kim Jong Un feeding his uncle to 120 rabid dogs turns out that was probably satire that got propagated somehow. Oh, gee, you don't say. So these guys are actually doing something really good and then somehow I never even heard of Kenneth Bay. Had you heard of this guy? Who? Kenneth Bay. So now, so of course we can't have any positive news about North Korea that would be crazy so let's dig up this guy who was incarcerated for 15 years because under the charge that he's a South Korean American South Korean American under the charge that he was trying to overthrow the North Korean government but because he's a South Korean American now it's just crazy that Dennis Rodman would go to that country because they're holding on to Kenneth Bay BAE yeah I got it

41:37 And there's no question of what this guy did and it's just, oh the evil dictator these guys are crazy. Your media is so badly failing you right now with this. This guy whose name was different by the way, he had a false name first, it was like Sung Kye Joon, some crap like that. Who cares? We're incarcerated here in America. We're talking about one guy? It's all crazy. It's all just nuts. Dennis Rodman's crazy. Yeah, you gotta be, you know, I learned, I was Metallica's manager. What the hell was that guy's name? Oh, hold on a second. Metallica... What was his, Len, Lonnie, let me see what was his name. Mensch, I think it was Mensch. I can't remember the guy's name. He would come to MTV with torn

42:37 corduroy pants, dirty sneakers, a paper bag. He didn't even... that was his briefcase, a paper bag. And I didn't know who it was, you know. It was this guy sitting in the corner. He was a multi-millionaire. Peter Mensch, that's his name. And he looks like a, like a, a clochard. And it's always those guys. It's always the guys that you think are stupid, crazy, morons, losers. Be careful because they're the ones that often have it. So I'm going to read you something from the article about Bay. Just for information. In January, Bill Richardson, former governor of New Mexico and Google's chief executive Eric Schmidt, attempted to secure Bay's release during a visit to North Korea, but they were not allowed to meet him. Right.

43:29 I read that too. I don't know what that's all about. Yeah, well maybe... Mr. Bay guy, that's the question. Yeah, well he sounds like a spy first of all, but okay. Yeah, duh. Right? Like those two women from Berkeley that just so happened to be sneaking across the border. No, they were hiking. Oh, they're hiking. Yes, on the North Korean border because that's where when I think of hiking, I don't think of Marin County. I don't think of Mount Tamalpais. I don't think of just hiking around the woods of Yosemite. I think of the mountains of the North Korean border. That's where I want to go hiking. Hiking. It's a hiking bonanza. Yes. It's fabulous.

44:11 But it's, you know, so, wow. Anyway, so I'm going to as close to source as possible this year. It probably won't be until a little bit closer to spring. But I'm looking forward to that. And of course, I'm also... So, something hit me really, really hard this morning. Because I was thinking about Uncle Don and I recalled three years ago when we did the uh oh here it is we did the first original Hot Pockets tour we went to uh to Armonk where he lives and we stayed in uh Armonk in their driveway. You remember he was listening to the show and he took notes and it was it was it was really it was a beautiful time. Can I can I mention this is an interruptive while you just mentioned Armonk which is interesting that he lived there. Do you know why IBM relocated to Armonk as its international headquarters? Yeah I believe it is outside of the fallout zone if a nuclear bomb hits New York. It's the safest place in that part in the west in the east coast to

45:08 if there was a nuclear exchange. Yeah. Well, the reason he's there is because that is where his wife on Meg, that is where she was born. That house was passed on from my grandparents. It's probably a gem. It's a small house, but it has land that is, I mean, it's worth millions because all the hedge fund douchebags are up there now. I mean, his neighbors, every single one of his neighbors are assholes and he'll admit it. Like, surrounded by him, what are you going to do? So I was thinking of Uncle Don and I remember we were watching PBS NewsHour because I was following in their rhythm. Now they're 83, 84, but they're very active politically and you know of course he was a national security advisor to Bush Sr., but he actually converted, became a Democrat, voted for Obama. I haven't spoken to him in a while since that by the way.

46:04 But I remember him watching the PBS news hour and he said, and he was angry. And I don't know his exact words but it was kind of like, what the F is Israel doing? What are these guys doing? And it's these little things you got to pay attention to with a guy like Don Gregg. And he was mad, he was really mad. I haven't really paid attention to it that much. Until this morning, and I'm going through all of my notes, and Grand Greenwald did an interview for an Israeli television station and he says, oh there's lots of stuff to come, lots of stuff to come about Israel. And then all of a sudden it all came together and hit me like a ton of bricks. Glenn Greenwald, if you look at his previous work at Ceylon, he is what we have discussed on this show and is often described as a self-loathing Jew.

47:08 in particular when it comes to Palestine when the flotilla was attacked by or yeah attacked by the attacked by the Israeli Israeli ID was it IDF was it force defense forces defense forces he was all over he he's been very very anti-israel particularly about Palestine Right, and so is that and that's why I fit so well in with the other group that's always hanging out with Democracy Now people which is very anti-Israel pro-Palestine. Yes, and this by the way is a severe leftist position. So you know, it's uber uber Democrats. Progressive left. They they're all they're all over Berkeley. They always have liberate Palestine. Exactly. A bumper stickers on their car. Exactly. Who again

48:03 financed Laura Poitras's documentary and Dirty Wars for Jeremy Scahill two of Greenwald's compadres. Right, that guy who is the self-loathing Jew that throws money at anything that's pro-Palestine. Tabatsnik who was from South Africa and is it's very devout anti- Israel, anti-Israeli policy, particularly when it comes to Palestine. And he is of course from the Bertha Foundation and he sold his, he became rich by selling his generic pharmaceutical company to Glaxo. It is now known as Glaxo Generics. Right, so they can inject the price back up. So take all that, so now we have anti-Israel, so funding from anti-Israeli source

48:58 Tabatsnik. We have Glenn Greenwald fundamentally against Israeli policy, now threatening that he has all kinds of information about Israel. Add into that mix the fact that Pierre Omidyar is probably going to be anti-Israeli seeing that he's from Iran, he's a Persian. they may have a beef there so there's you can see where this is all coming together now just for you become a critical mass just for yucks just just because we're so effing blind everyone's in Germany there's always been a Jew German thing we're spying on Angela Merkel I mean do they have to paint it for us because I went back to 2008 democracy now James Bamford do you remember this name

49:51 Oh yeah. He wrote a book called The Shadow Factory, which I have not read and I'm sad I have to now I now have to go and read it and listen to the accus- and we were on this because we were talking about Stellar Wind and the big building the AT&T building on Second Street in San Francisco but how they're just sucking up all the data and just we'll listen to the first bit of this and we can stop it's it goes on forever but here he is with Amy Goodman talking about the connections between the NSA and Israel. So you have one copy of everything coming in and going to NSA's secret room. And in the secret room was equipment by a private company called NARAS, a very small company hardly anybody's ever heard of that created the hardware and the software.

50:38 to analyze these cables and then pick out the targets NSA is looking for and then forward the targeted communications on to NSA headquarters. So you have these... And by the way, a reminder, this is 2008, this was on public television, no Nobody batted an eye, no controversy, no yelling, no screaming, no nothing. Companies, AT&T and Verizon, that are secretly working with the NSA and tapping Americans' phone lines. And these companies actually outsource the actual tapping to some little-known foreign companies?

51:16 Yeah, there's two major, not major, they're small companies but they service the two major telecom companies. This company, Naris, which was founded in Israel and has large Israel connections, does basically the tapping of the communications on AT&T. and Verizon chose another company ironically also founded in Israel and largely controlled by and developed by people in Israel called Verint. So these two companies specialize in what's known as mass surveillance. Now we could go on for a while here but Greenwald has also

52:05 released documents from Snowden and this goes back several months which kind of didn't really catch any heat where he claimed in the Guardian, he was still working for the Guardian, that NASA shares raw intelligence including Americans data with Israel before it even does gives it to the Uber Lords in the United States. Right, right. There was a little stir over that. A little, minor stir. So I'm thinking now add on to that that we believe the CIA and the NSA have been at war and the CIA I heard all I know is I heard a CIA guy getting pissed off at at Israel for some reason and it clicked to me I'm like okay if NSA equals Israeli intelligence

52:52 Then then there are factions in our government who want to stop that and I'll look at this administration Who brought the Prime Minister of Israel in through the back door? You'll recall that controversy who have you know have been quite anti-israel in a number of ways including right now the it's ratcheted pretty high with these Iranian talks and you know and and if you listen to what's being said on boots on the ground in Israel Obama and Kerry, John F. Kerry are being talked about as if they're Chamberlain you know like they're dealing like they're you know what was the word the collaborating no that's no no no no what was the the word they use yeah yeah I know what you're thinking damn it's a good word too it's a great word

53:45 Geez, what are we historians? Trying to do a show here and not remember great words. So I'm thinking that this is so much deeper than we even expected. This is also about Israel and getting them out of our business by a group of people who are sick and tired of it. Well there's a problem with your analysis. What's that? Well, you have the NSA and the CIA going to war with each other but in this situation if you have a CIA guy getting irked at the Israelis and apparently the Greenwald camp and all the rest of them being going after the Israelis, you think they'd be in the... it sounds like they're both on the same side when it comes to this particular event. I don't understand what you just said. You said that, what are the Israelis doing, Don and Greg's reaction?

54:41 realizing that there's a bunch of Israeli intelligence within our government that needs to be rousted out. The CIA wants to get rid of him but apparently the people that are working with him which would be the NSA is being subverted by Greenwald and his group and Snowden which is also going against going at okay well you're making my point for me Oh, I see what you're saying is that the NSA is corrupted by Israeli intelligence and they have to and they're being busted out by two separate groups that aren't really necessarily working together.

55:18 Well, who's the separate groups? Greenwald's not working for the CIA, let's face reality. And neither is Democracy Now. No, no, Greenwald was the perfect target. You didn't need to do anything. He was already on board. He already hated... Yeah, I know, but don't you think he was set up by Snowden, who we believe may actually be still working for the CIA? Sure! Of course! He still carries his card? Yes. But they have to get him out of there. The job right now of the agency is to get Snowden safely back to the country. Well, Snowden is expendable. That's true, but at least they're going to make an effort. I don't know. What's important now is to start, I think what's important now is to start connecting the NSA to Israel. And not important to me, but I think that is what is important to the factions who want this to stop.

56:06 And maybe they don't, I don't think the public would even understand it necessarily, not the public who are going to enjoy Marissa Meyer's Yahoo. I don't think they'll understand it all. So, but getting rid of it, remember... Appeasement. Appeasement, thank you. Bernie Sanders, and I believe this is a setup, he did the following. We can't continue to refer to ourselves as a quote-unquote free country when the United States government is collecting information on virtually every telephone call made in America, getting into people's emails, focusing on the websites that certain people are visiting.

56:47 Sanders says he may be one of those people. He sent a letter to the NSA director, General Keith Alexander, asking, quote, one very simple question. Has the NSA spied or is the NSA currently spying on members of Congress or other American elected officials? The NSA's only answer so far, that members of Congress have quote, the same privacy protections as all Americans. So you've got to think that there's a number of people in Congress, the House of Representatives and the Senate, who are not happy with this. And I would also presume that all the business intelligence

57:27 is also running, we know that that's running through the NSA, but maybe that's also being backdoored through Israeli quote-unquote intelligence. Maybe, and you know, we don't have, we know that Israel is often quoted as an ally of the United States, which is not true. We have no, as far as I know, we have no written agreements with Israel. None. There's no, you know, no contract, no nothing. And they won't even admit they have nuclear weapons. which of course you know they're not sanctioned for it either. So there's a lot going on and it's one of these non-discussed topics because before you know it, Hitler, Holocaust, Jew-hater, you know you can't talk about these things anyway. It's true. It's almost and which is you know a part of the gig I guess, I don't know, but you know jeez man look at what's going on.

58:24 This, it's going directly to Israeli intelligence. It's being reported as such through the NSA. So maybe this is a dynamic. And maybe NARAS and VARINT who have been around for a while collecting phone data at the place on 2nd Street and elsewhere. They're obviously just Israeli intelligence. Yeah. And how many people, do you remember Eyal right? At Mevio when it was still called Mevio? Yeah. Come on. I know. No he looked, I mean but he actually looked like a Mossad guy. He totally looked like a Mossad guy. Yeah, if there is such a look.

59:11 It could be a Hollywood look that we're being distracted most and many the other you know we could be wrong. It just seemed like it to me. But there's a lot of guys like that running technology, business related technology, and it's fine because you know business has got to hire and deal with whoever they hire. It's not my problem. I'm just thinking there's an extra dynamic to this and this is the dynamic known as Israel. And Israel, it's a big deal within the politics. Maybe you could explain to me, that would be helpful, because Miss Mickey asked me this morning as I tested this theory on her, and she said, what exactly, why do they always call it this special relationship? What is the deal between America and Israel? That's a simple question. We have a lot of ex-Jewish people in the power arena of New York City.

1:00:13 And there's enough of them here and there that they like the idea of having a an exit strategy called Israel Dual citizenship perhaps or whatever. I don't know I mean we have a lot of Jews in this country, and they're not running everything like a lot of people would like to imagine They but they're there. They you know know how to target their their desires and they get Chuck Schumer who is the most pro-israel guy in the in the Senate and and a couple other guys and then they can... You know, a couple other guys... He just cozy up to Israel. They like... Yeah, Dianne Feinstein... If you sit around with a Jew for a long time, they really like having this country. And they don't like it being threatened. And they think everyone's threatening it. And when you go to the area, they are. Everybody hates them. They... just like a mess everywhere. Israel is a very civilized place. It's a great country to visit. I would recommend it as a vacation.

1:01:14 It's just great all around and then you have these you have some Arab cities within the area within Israel and you have these these Palestinian areas that have been cordoned off and they keep sending rockets into the main part of the country. It's a special relationship you know we've always we like Israel. It's a likable place that you know we like it. It's it's the Jews like it the non-Jews like it the only people that don't like it are far-left progressives and Everybody else likes it, but I don't think anybody appreciates the spying stuff Well, so let me feed back some of the things you said first of all the proportion of Jews in America is a very small percentage It's miniscule. Yeah the purport the percentage of Jews and perhaps some dual citizens in government is

1:02:10 is much larger than the percentage of them in the population. Yeah. Would you agree to that? Sure, I'd also agree that if you take the percentage of the population that are Asian in the state of California and take a look at the percentage of Asians at the University of California, it's completely out of proportion. Exactly. So there you are. It happens these days, people gravitate to certain things. So it's facts. We're just talking facts. No xenophobia, no anti-Semitism, just facts. Right there there and then there's a good portion of those same by the way I should mention this because we have them in the area those same Jews that are in government are the self-loathing pro-palestinian Jews Yes, this is very huge percentage of the intellectual population of the Jewish community in the Bay Area This is this is what is so interesting. So I'm not of the belief per se that all American Jews

1:03:08 are all on board with what Israel's doing. I think a large percentage is very angry about what the current Israeli policy is. But just throw this NSA spying thing into the mix that's coming from them, I think you start to see some lines. So Dianne Feinstein, she's all in. Some other, like Bernie Sanders here, maybe not all in. But he's also not a party guy, he's an independent, so maybe he's not a part of whatever cabal. But it is you have we have to recognize that there is something going on here that is also We don't know what really what what the deal is we just don't know but there's a lot of control being maybe you'll find out something when you go back to Armonk and have a chat I also need to get my ass to Israel and Mickey's been there. She said she hated it. Why she's a woman She said as a woman I felt so horrible

1:04:08 She said, and she was there with, she had a friend at the time who was a basketball player, I think for the Israeli team, maybe Olympic team or something. And she said she felt just unwanted, just as a, you know, she looks, Mickey's a strong, independent, Western woman. She doesn't look very Jewish. No. She probably looks like a Nazi walking around there. I'm sure she wasn't like. Hey, that's not so nice. What do you mean like a Nazi? She looks like the Aryan, you know, superwoman. She's six foot, she's blonde. Well, there you go. Well, there you go. What the hell is wrong with that country? Screw that. Screw that. We don't do that here in America. They can't stereotype. When people walk around with a dot on their forehead or a towel on their head, I don't look at them like they don't belong. They're in America. You paying taxes, you belong. What? Nothing. Nothing. Never mind. What?

1:05:03 Nothing go on you said something. I couldn't hear what you said it cut out. That's all it was I Texas I don't think there would well with the people that wear a towel on their heads told it's how that's a tour you are being Completely biased you have no idea it is no I've talked to them Texans, and they're all like that Yeah, exactly that's exactly that's exactly the idea you have no we have no That idea from like for example, I've got this clip we'll play it a little later on the Texas truancy laws and how they took that poor Vietnamese girl and they sent her to jail because she couldn't cut because she didn't come to school one day she was a straight-a student.

1:05:42 And the judge which quoted, well we have to have our way around here, you can't let kids get away with this, so she's off to jail. I mean that kind of thing. Yeah, Texas has a bad reputation for all this. Pennsylvania has a reputation for that. Pennsylvania is where they had the true classroom to prison and the judge who did that went to jail. and the real Pete O'Bear, that's Pennsylvania, don't get confused with some propaganda. This judge didn't get any go to jail as far as I know he's still on the bench. Anyway, I don't want to change the topic just yet. Just yet. So there is, but we're seeing this now going back and forth. Now we have some anti-CIA propaganda coming out.

1:06:26 Now we have this who's this? This guy who was the lawyer for the CIA for 30 years Finally we're getting some anti-cia So how long does it take for the NSA to keep take their heads out of the sand? Well, I think they got I think they there was a lot of things are trying to you know It was complicated for them and this guy What is his name now? He comes out and well, he's the guy that says ah, you know a CIA Deals coke to Hollywood Yeah, hello, hello Iran contract like we didn't know that geez, please Then there's all of a sudden just just you know, let me see if I have it here. Oh

1:07:12 Did you not see that that article that could this is great though, I mean it's yeah I can't you didn't see that. I got to read that for you. It's very funny. Yeah, read it also the Now there's a lot of back and forth with the Washington Post. Let me see who did this Someone wrote this letter it was who is it from? Executive editor. So maybe it was, I don't know if it was disinterested. People have been writing back and forth to the editor of the Washington Post saying, are you going to disclose every single time you do a story about intelligence services that Amazon has at minimum a $600 million contractor on all cloud services for the CIA and is trying to get more business? You know, so there's that kind of stuff that is being played continuously. And let me see if I can find the Coke email. That was hilarious. Who sent that?

1:08:14 Thought you were on it this morning. I was on what? On the email. There was an email that came in about that. Oh, I didn't see it. I thought I put it in my notes somewhere, but apparently not. What was the subject line? $50,000 of coke to CIA. Hold on. I don't know how I would CC on that. I think I would have seen that. Let me just look up coke on the subject line. Here we go. allegations whistle a CIA whistleblower of course here it is Ed Smith and that's the Ed Smith one John Rick I don't know John here 35 year CIA employee John Rizzo has written a book about his years at the CIA he lets the cat out of the bag that many Hollywood types act as informants for the CIA some out of patriotism and some out of the need for excitement and one was in it for the coke yeah name names dude now

1:09:13 Please. The actor- Play the Clooney thing, come on. As a spy or just call him? Do the spy one. He's a spy. You know, so if you take all that into account and and now I'm gonna go really meta on you and then I'll stop because If you take into account that the CIA, I believe the CIA is running for Tula Gulen This is the guy who is has his students from his schools have infiltrated all of Turkey's politics particularly the legal and and policing portions of the government who is now about to overthrow Erdogan and

1:10:08 And there's an election coming up, I think it's Istanbul mayoral election. All kinds of stuff is happening. Now this guy is in Pennsylvania, since we talked about that coincidental. in his compound and his number two guy, or the number two guy, his number one guy, Abdullah Aymaz, A-Y-M-A-Z, he seems like he's the new heir apparent. Those guys are run by the CIA, so now you have essentially hardcore Islamists being run by the CIA and hardcore Israelis being run by the NSA.

1:10:50 Ah, that brings, that's a good meta, yeah. And it's a little scary when you think about it that way. Well, scary to who and why? Well, I don't know, I'm in Texas, I'm armed, I'm not really... Yeah, I mean, you're in Austin, Texas. I'm not really afraid of anything. Can't be that scary, except for the fact they're opening all those crazy schools all over Texas. Yeah, that's the, it's the Gulen schools. Harmony. Yeah, that's the, it's part of the Gulen empire. Well, I want to do Turkey a little bit later on. Anyway, so that I the only other thing I had on on kind of the the snow job Snowden stuff is Kim calm Known from mega upload. He was the subject of a 60-minute interview and this I did see that and I think this is well I pulled a little clip also, there's a 15-minute vice interview

1:11:37 documentary, mini documentary, which is actually very funny because the guy who went to interview him, and this comes out coincidentally the same time as the 60 Minutes interview, so is there really a coincidence? This guy, I mean he's a fanboy and he's trying to do a serious interview but it's not an interview, he might as well just be sucking Kim Dotcom's penis the whole time. I mean just a little bit here of him in... so Kim.com takes it to his gaming room. Yes, I think so. I want to know how it's done. This is where I imagine I would be when the zombies do come. You know, you've got a compound, you've got excessive simulation training, firing weapons. I'll just... I'll be in here playing GTA while you take care of the zombies. Well, I survive. Wow, that's the interviewer, John.

1:12:27 You're so cool. You're so awesome, Kim Dotcom. You're the best. Kim Dotcom is taking advantage of the opportunity. to jump on the anti-NSA bandwagon. And I think he has a specific reason for it, which will be clear in this 40 second clip. And he's doing that obviously to promote his new service called Mega. And of course, Mega is the solution to all things spying because it's just all encrypted and you know, you need, Kim.com is going to save the day with his encrypted bull crap. So it's self-serving promotion. But listen at the end here, so this is a little clip

1:13:06 from the 60 minutes piece where Kim calm explains why he thinks he was targeted and then listen to the guy from The FBI I think he's FBI Talking about the reality of it. Well, just listen So why does he think the government's going after him because of my flamboyant lifestyle because of me being German? Why would he say that because of me being German? Really? Is this more? That's your, there you go. That is a catch. Is this more Jew stuff that we're talking about? I heard that too. I've heard her do that before say that, but until now I never realized that maybe a meta reference that we just ignored. Well, I did at least. I ignored it because I'm not a xenophobe and anti-Semite or a racist or a bigot. I'm not trained to listen to these things. I'm going to have to start doing it. I'm going after him.

1:14:02 Because of my flamboyant lifestyle because of me being German the way I am I'm the easiest person to sell as a villain you really think that that's what did it and this is so this is the law enforcement guy who looks like You saw the piece this guy with his bald head looked like he would kill you in a second. I don't think there was anything about Mega upload that led them to say and think this guy has gone too far and I'm the perfect target and that's why they picked Mega Upload. Kim Dotcom says he's convinced that he was chosen because he looks like a villain.

1:14:40 People sometimes tell me I look like a villain. Right? People aren't aren't aren't investigated because of the way they look or the type of car they drive. They're investigated because there's an allegation that they're involved in illegal activity that they're committing a crime. Now, I'll tell you something. It looks like two villains on both sides. This is just gang warfare. You're all thugs. Law enforcement thugs and mega upload thugs. German indeed. Okay. I think we need to be watching this and there is something bigger going on, particularly, and just to blow your mind, the first big contract, let me pull it up here, from the Leviathan gas field, a 20-year $1.2 billion agreement for 4.75 billion cubic meters of gas from the Leviathan field will go to, can you guess? Germany? No, the Palestine Power Generating Company.

1:15:46 How weird yeah, how weird is that of course it's American by the way I want to mention something since you brought this German thing up I've It comes right to the four I didn't record it or anything, but I found it peculiar that I'm watching France van cat and they're gonna do some special on the spying on Angela Merkel and it's like with such I was watching this thinking this is such old news I don't understand why they're bringing it up again Merkel Yeah. Oh, I think I know why.

1:16:24 Because she got a little message. Come on, that was obvious. The Chancellor contracted severe bruising and a so-called partial fracture in her left back pelvic ring while cross-skiing over her Christmas holidays. This makes it necessary for her to lie down a lot or use a walking device respectively for the next three weeks. Accordingly, she will be concentrating on only a few official appointments in the Chancellery Inn in Berlin. Otherwise, she will be working from home. Now let me explain something to you. This is this happened during a cross-country skiing. Right, that's where you walk. You're walking on sticks. Yes. On little sleds.

1:17:04 And she broke her pelvic bone? Unless she slid down a mountain, which would make no sense because cross-country skiing is usually on pathways that are very well defined. Or was there some whacking going on here? Yeah, some guy came out of the blue and told her to beat the crap out of her. Beat her with the ugly stick. She said, shut up! Something like that. Well, this isn't being very well covered, I have to say. The news media sucks. Thank you for your courage and in the morning to you John C. DeMora. And to you Adam Curry, in the morning to all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feeding the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. Fantastic one night. Yes, and to all of our human resources in the chat room, noagendastream.com. Welcome everybody. Thank you very much to our artists, noagendaartgenerator.com. Last episode's art five

1:17:58 580 brought to you by Joshua Pettigrew and we're very always very excited to find out what the artwork will be as we wind up the show and when we come up with the name and we choose the artwork and we're always very very appreciative of the art done by our artists and of course from the true people who make this show work which is no easy feat As our producers, our executive producers and associate executive producers, we thank our producers later on in the show, everyone over $50 per episode. But the executive producers and associate executive producers are the ones we thank up front as much as possible, just like Hollywood, believe it or not. And we have... Man, did we get an instant night today? Yes, we got an instant night, the very last minute. Wow, crap, that's great. Let's go.

1:17:04 And she broke her pelvic bone? Unless she slid down a mountain, which would make no sense because cross-country skiing is usually on pathways that are very well defined. Or was there some whacking going on here? Yeah, some guy came out of the blue and told her to beat the crap out of her. Beat her with the ugly stick. She said, shut up! Something like that. Well, this isn't being very well covered, I have to say. The news media sucks. Thank you for your courage and in the morning to you John C. DeMora. And to you Adam Curry, in the morning to all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feeding the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. Fantastic one night. Yes, and to all of our human resources in the chat room, noagendastream.com. Welcome everybody. Thank you very much to our artists, noagendaartgenerator.com. Last episode's art five

1:17:58 580 brought to you by Joshua Pettigrew and we're very always very excited to find out what the artwork will be as we wind up the show and when we come up with the name and we choose the artwork and we're always very very appreciative of the art done by our artists and of course from the true people who make this show work which is no easy feat As our producers, our executive producers and associate executive producers, we thank our producers later on in the show, everyone over $50 per episode. But the executive producers and associate executive producers are the ones we thank up front as much as possible, just like Hollywood, believe it or not. And we have... Man, did we get an instant night today? Yes, we got an instant night, the very last minute. Wow, crap, that's great. Let's go.

1:18:49 Alright, well we have a few people to thank for being executive producers. We actually have one, two, three, four, five executive producers and two associates. Nice. And our number one instant knight is Gary Owens out of Lost Wages, Nevada. Came in with a thousand dollars with a note. I faithfully listened for six months and it's time to donate. Since I waited so long, I wish to become an instant knight. Sir Guard Dog of Sin City. Hey, we have a place to stay. Yeah, I guess. I love the in-depth analysis and I also like the humor. When Adam shrieked like a little girl at the term heteroflexible, I almost drove off the road.

1:19:31 My daughter is at the age where she is starting to question things, thanks to you two and finding out that the government and corporations are often horribly corrupt. We listened to episode 2000.5 or 200.5 which is one of the special episodes. Especially the weenie and the butt part. Please give a shout out to my daughter Michelle's birthday. She's on the birthday list I hope. Can't tell because it's on blue. I'm gonna check. Born on Jan 10. Yeah, good to go and then he mentioned he served in the 1st Battalion 10th Marine Artillery Regiment Please send karma and if JC D can call to the stage the dirty nurses Claudia and a yet Which I'll do on the neck when next time we do the open the club Yep I'll write it down and then anything from Freddie the firewall keep up the great work and God bless you Adam and John there are many praises I could give to both of you but

1:20:24 That's the next guy talking. Okay. You've got karma. I know. Freddy the firewall crept in there for a second. A little disconcerting here. Adam and John there are many praises I could give out to both of you. I Got it. I'm just looking for I thought I had just read for what I have to turn the heat down I'm just gonna I'm gonna boil here. Just start. I'll read while you're doing that. Yeah, this is Josh Hayes Joshua Hastings in Chicago 5745 Adam and John there are many praises I could give the both of you you've heard them all before I'll just have to let you know the work you do is fantastic

1:21:15 And it's a great service to our country. I just got engaged a couple of weeks ago. Could I please get some engagement karma? My fiance will kill me when she learns how much money I've given you guys. Also, don't laugh. I want the don't laugh jingle. This is my third donation. Puts it in Nighthood. We got the accounting. And he wants the title of Sir Face of FEMA 5. The titles are getting good for our royalty, aren't they? Alright, well I think your fiancé may not kill you. You may find that she winds up supporting the show for your anniversary or your birthday, you never know. Don't laugh! Why are you laughing? You've got karma. And thank you sir, we'll be knighting you later. Alright, we got... I'm sorry about that, I just irked by the fact that I lost something here.

1:22:09 You get distracted doing this show. Francis Sheehy in Worcester, Massachusetts came in with $500 and it came just an it came in as a check envelope no note. Okay, well it's highly appreciated your credit will be given as credit is due and you have something you want us to write down later or talk about later let us know. Yep. Daniel Miller in Knoxville, Tennessee. And I do have a note from Daniel Miller. He sends a note. It also has a counting so he will have been knighted. In the morning, guardians of reality.

1:22:47 Last month my boss mentioned something about the US natural gas market as a meeting was breaking up. I didn't hesitate and offer that ongoing military operations, i.e. Syria and trade proposals, TAFTA TPP are the vehicle to get the US natural gas into foreign markets. He was utterly speechless. Last week I got an unexpected year-end bonus. Nice! Well-deserved cut. My only request is for you to keep cranking out the best podcast in the universe. Wow, that's cool. He has a PS. Oh. He says fuck PayPal. I didn't mention that, I'm not sure. Okay, onward. Scott Reynolds, $333.33, Arlington, Texas. I don't have a note from Scott, I don't believe. No, no, no, no.

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1:24:28 And then I've lost Kerry Washimoto's note. No, was that it? He's either carry see I was I was playing with the note because it said see a and look like an L It could have been an R. I think it's Kerry. Was it an email? No, it was a handwritten note Okay, well if it was email, I'd look for it, but I guess no no handwritten. No it was scrawled and I can't find it and I have I I grabbed all the notes and put them in his pocket, but it was bothering me. So, Kerry, we'll get to your note next show, if I can find it. Or send me an email. Whatever the case. Anyway, $200 from Toronto and that closes out show 581. Well, at least the executive producer is not the whole show. Closes out the show. We're done. Good night everybody. Thanks for coming. We're going to remind people to go to devorek.org to help us for show 582 which is coming up on Sunday which is in just a few days. Yeah, and one quick little PR mention. I do want to thank John Steck.

1:25:28 He emails us at least a hundred times an hour, but he did something which I think is cool. He saw an article on KurtzweilAI.net. Is this where all the... that's Kurtzweil accelerating intelligence. Isn't this where all the transhumanists hang out? It's transhumanist and these other guys that other group that runs the the what's it called when you have the when there's gonna be a We're gonna all become machines. Yeah, it's called something or other we're bad today. It's that University that we Know I'm telling they're sending a raise in it's just whether right So there was an article on Kurzweil AI which is well read called how to find time travelers and it's talking about you know people who predict things and

1:26:16 And it's actually, I guess, a white paper. What? Yeah, yeah, no, this is funny. And so he had... If they could find a mention of something or someone on the internet before people should have known about it, that could indicate that whoever wrote it had traveled from the future. In this paper, they selected search terms relating to two recent phenomena, Comet Ison and Pope Francis, and began looking for references to them before they were known to exist. and they used a variety of search engines, Google, Bing, and combed through Facebook and Twitter. They discovered only one blog post referencing a Pope Francis before he was elected head of the Catholic Church on March 16th, but that seemed more accidental than prescient. And so, Stek went in and posted a comment and said, oh yeah? Well, Adam Curry called the... here it is.

1:27:14 Gentlemen, the article states, they discovered only one blog post referencing a Pope Francis. That seemed more accidental than prescient. A better case of papal predictive prescient forecasting, specifically 491.nashownotes.com, one can see that the so-called podfather, Adam Curry, a well-known prognosticator, extraordinary in his own right, predicted by name Pope Francis weeks before the election. It is possible that Mr. Curry is indeed a time traveler, as his predictive abilities seem to routinely exceed mere coincidence. And now there's a whole thread on me. Good. And luckily it now says listen to no agenda show and you know so the but so I'm just going to say yes I'm a time traveler. Yeah, he's a time traveler. We've known this. We've known this. What's duh? You know the problem is that's why he predicts the winners of the World Cup. Yes, exactly. And you're here to be my handler.

1:28:10 I'm making sure he doesn't get out of control because it could get ugly. It could get very ugly. Dvorak.org slash N.A. Alright everybody, I predict you're going to go out and help us by propagating our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order. Shit! Shut up! Oh, I did just have one email, John. The word is singularity. Singularity, yes. I got a note here from Matthew Hamilton. I needed to just check something with you. He had a question. In the morning, John and Adam, my girlfriend and I have a gift for the two of you that I'd like to send to the PO box, but we are unsure if it will fit in John's hole. That's very funny. Yes, the package will come in a USPS flat rate 5x8x1 box.

1:29:08 Well that's the whole problem is that I told him that he's not if he sends me your thing I think it's one it will be years before you get it. No, I think it's just one thing. It may not be two things I think there's two things. My super cute girlfriend made this as a class project and I helped her out with the finishing touches. We are both 17 now and in the 12th grade. I love hearing this. Just escaping the insanity of Rotten Core, which is a great name for Common Core. I like it. I will include pictures of us but remember Adam, she's underage, nothing pornographic for a few more months and he sent me a picture. Did you get the picture? No. She's super cute in a little Santa outfit. He said she's super cute. Yeah, little Santa outfit. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, yeah, only a couple more months. Yeah. Come on. Come on, Matthew. Bring it on. Nine days now and the guys in Austin still on their fluoride hunger strike. They're going to die.

1:30:10 So one of our so one of our eat so one of talking about eat we had I mentioned the newsletter the no agenda diet. Oh, yes The thesis is is that if you listen to mainstream media They keep to the mainstream media by the way is honest about one thing that their note that their product is bad for your health Yeah, and they mentioned it commonly. I've seen this story every few months someplace or other runs which is that people who watch and watch TV news and read newspapers are depressed. Duh. Well, you know the news is bad for you. So I said if you're not depressed and when you're depressed you want to drink a lot eat food eat candy bonbons and you get fat and so if you just listen to no agenda you will not be depressed because we're not a depressing show we're just an eye-opening show. We're a comedy podcast. Get with it. It's a diet. I said send it in. So right away Rick Delishney sends the note. I had to laugh at your newsletter you just published.

1:31:10 about the no agenda diet, who knew? I was fortunate to get two full weeks of off over Festivus and promised myself to go to the gym every day. And with the exception of Christmas and a dinner party I host, I did just that. I can thank no agenda for accompanying me while I was doing a bathroom tile renovation and heating the elliptical machine and losing 16 pounds in two weeks. Wow, great. Here you go. I recommend the diet by the way. I was gonna say there's one of the things I want to do in this show, I have a couple of examples but there's a lot more. This is the, this is a, there's been a bunch of hit pieces that are not necessarily obvious. Oh hold on, I put this under the heading Hillary 2016 by the way.

1:32:18 Well, I know which one you're talking about. I might as well start with that one. Actually, both of them are about Hillary. Yes, both. Exactly. Both are. One of them is the Gates, the former Defense Department guy, came out with a book and he's condemning the administration because he's a Republican so he can get away with that. And then he mentions in the book, and I call this, this would be my subject line, would be nip it in the bud. Any chances that Biden is going to run for president have to be nipped in the bud. No, no, not nipped in the bud. How about completely obliterated and destroyed? And the way I get the biggest kick out of this story, you can play this clip and I'll tell you what I thought was funny about it, but anyway, this is the Gates book slams Biden.

1:31:10 about the no agenda diet, who knew? I was fortunate to get two full weeks of off over Festivus and promised myself to go to the gym every day. And with the exception of Christmas and a dinner party I host, I did just that. I can thank no agenda for accompanying me while I was doing a bathroom tile renovation and heating the elliptical machine and losing 16 pounds in two weeks. Wow, great. Here you go. I recommend the diet by the way. I was gonna say there's one of the things I want to do in this show, I have a couple of examples but there's a lot more. This is the, this is a, there's been a bunch of hit pieces that are not necessarily obvious. Oh hold on, I put this under the heading Hillary 2016 by the way.

1:32:18 Well, I know which one you're talking about. I might as well start with that one. Actually, both of them are about Hillary. Yes, both. Exactly. Both are. One of them is the Gates, the former Defense Department guy, came out with a book and he's condemning the administration because he's a Republican so he can get away with that. And then he mentions in the book, and I call this, this would be my subject line, would be nip it in the bud. Any chances that Biden is going to run for president have to be nipped in the bud. No, no, not nipped in the bud. How about completely obliterated and destroyed? And the way I get the biggest kick out of this story, you can play this clip and I'll tell you what I thought was funny about it, but anyway, this is the Gates book slams Biden.

1:33:04 The White House rejected criticism today by former Defense Secretary Robert Gates. In a new memoir, he says the president wasn't committed to the Afghan war and that Vice President Biden was wrong on nearly every key issue. In an apparent show of support for the vice president, officials invited news photographers into the leaders usually private weekly luncheon and spokesman Jay Carney followed up. Joe Biden has been one of the leading statesmen of his time, and he has been an excellent counselor and advisor to the President for the past five years. He's played a key role in every major

1:33:46 national security and foreign policy debate and policy discussion in this administration, in this White House. Carney also dismissed the Afghan war criticism. He said the president believes thoroughly in the mission. All right, before you say anything, and I also have a cross-reference clip from a different news organization which would be fun to listen to. Carney with a beard and a mustache? I didn't want to get into it, but yeah, why is a douchebag look? I think they're just they're tormenting him or something. No, no, it's when... What is the point of that? Guys do that when they have something to hide. Huh. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting you'd... That would be your... That's my assessment and... Yeah, no, no, I didn't actually mention it. And the lunch... The little lunch was hilarious. Oh, that... Here's the way I saw this before you played. I have to just say this.

1:34:43 This is one of those things if it came out and you just ignored it. Biden's still in play, but no let's make a big deal out of it and then have Carney come out and say no Biden's not an idiot. We don't think he's a moron He's bad something good to say all these meetings. There's been meetings and He had an input yeah, he did he really did I mean this is like the worst hit job on bite, and this guy is toast Yeah, and so the lunch which was attended only by photographers like a little kids table Did you see the picture of the president in the middle looming over the table? The whole thing was... When I saw it, they're both sitting down. I saw the live video. To me, it was piling on. It was like, yeah, you're an idiot and we're actually going to make you look like more of an idiot right now. And we're going to defend you like you're an idiot. This story that I found, I'm not sure it might be... We'll find out who it is.

1:35:39 I've actually called out the Hillary thing. In Bob Gates's new memoir, Duty, the former CIA and Pentagon chief calls the Obama White House the most centralized... This is CNN, it's Andrea Mitchell. ...and controlling since the Nixon years. Most controlling since the Nixon years. There's your Nixon meme. While Gates praises President Obama's decisions on Afghanistan, he says the president didn't believe in his own strategy. Recalling after one meeting, I thought the president doesn't trust his commander, can't stand Karzai, doesn't believe in his own strategy, and doesn't consider the war to be his. For him, it's all about getting out. Gates is particularly tough on Vice President Biden, writing, I think he has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades. And Gates blasts former National Security Advisor Tom Donilon and his team,

1:36:30 for quote, aggressive, suspicious and sometimes condescending and insulting questioning of our military leaders. While Gates praises former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, he says he was dismayed to hear Clinton tell the president she opposed the Iraq troop surge in 2007 because she was running against Mr. Obama. In turn, Gates says the president acknowledged opposing the surge himself for political reasons. So there it is. It's plain as day. Go Hillary! Yeah, no, and in four decades. I didn't get that part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, of course, the book... It's not only been wrong, it's been wrong for 40 years! And not on a couple of things, on everything!

1:37:09 And the and the the bummer is this book isn't even out until the 14th. So this is a This is such a perfectly time. So we had We had all everyone's a little tired of the snow stories There was really, you know, it was a Monday, it was perfectly timed, and we already knew it was coming because it started up with, oh, he broke his neck but he's gonna go out on tour anyway. So that was kind of the, oops, there's a book coming. Everyone had the message, the book is coming, and then they sent out the extract. No one has read this book. No one has read it. It's not available. I went to Amazon, I'm like, I gotta read this. No. You can pre-order, of course, which I refuse to do.

1:37:51 I refuse to be a slave. I will buy it of course, but I'm not gonna pre-order you shitheads. I hate it when you do that. Hillary also has her new haircut. I think they're ratcheting it up, John. She's got, have you seen the bangs? Her new bangs haircut? Yeah, I saw the look. I saw the look. It makes her look, you know, perky. I don't know if it's a good look. I don't think so. You might be right about the Marissa Meyer. Your take on that, I think might be... Right on the money because Marissa Meyer's the new female look of a CEO who's a girl. Now that she's a woman, but yeah, but consider my age in her as I'm she's a girl.

1:38:28 She's got the right approach. She is not a dyke, like you said. I'm just quoting you. I didn't say she was a dyke. I didn't say, use the word dyke at all. Yeah, you did. Okay. Well, I meant to beside the point. So let's go after now we have, okay, we got Biden's done. Hold on. There's no way he's going to recover. Hillary's campaign has given their email list to the pro Hillary super PAC. That's a move. And the thing is who owns that list and is there going you know I believe that the list was exchanged I bet you there's an exchange of money that ends up in Hillary's bank account. Oh sure something fishy about that whole thing Seth Brinkman spokesman for the super PAC told Time on Sunday that ready for Hillary rented the Hillary Clinton dot-com email list to connect with her past supporters. Let's see who owns

1:39:23 Hillary Clinton. Is it just HillaryClinton.com, right? Okay, hold on a second. Okay, command line, who is... Oops. HillaryClinton.com. Nothing like a command line, who is. Friends of Hillary. 1825 K Street. So who's Friends of Hillary? That's the big question. Well, what we really want to do... I've been on this mailing list forever. Yeah, no, I know. What we really want to do is we want to copy... This is how you do it, people. This is for when you do your own podcast, because it's so easy. You take... So you do the whois, then you take the 1825 K Street Northwest Suite 1000 address, and that's Washington, D.C., right? And then you put that into Google.

1:40:19 And then you see who else is there. And other people there are the United Nations Information Center, in the same suite by the way. Not just... But let's be honest about this. It's a lobbying group. It's one of those phony baloney offices that you rent. They have all that's free. Yes. Wow, man. The connection is bad today. I don't know why that is. It's weird. Yeah, you get one room in it Let's see who else is here community wealth partners are there that and that may be that that me Okay, a community wealth part as a community well part is we dream of a world in which all people thrive Is this an organization or a lobbyist group? What is this? No. Hmm anyway

1:41:09 I think they're ratcheting up, John. I think they're getting ready to... it's unavoidable. Get into your Christie stuff because they... so we have the screw Joe Biden because he's a moron, obviously, and I can just see Joe who probably is a great guy to have beer with and shoot something with. I can just see him being completely deflated over this, don't you? I think... Oh, I think he's steamed. He's probably He has to be beside himself. I think he's really hurt. He's been in Washington long enough to know a screw job when he sees it. A set up. He was set up and then the ball was teed up by Gates and then Obama's boys, especially Carney, hit it over the fence.

1:41:53 NBC Today Show. In Bob Gates's new memoir, Duty, the former CIA and Pentagon chief calls the Obama White House the most centralized and controlling since the Nixon years. Gates gave no hint of his resentment when he left the cabinet two years ago, and President Obama awarded him the Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor. So there's NBC not propagating the Joe Biden's a moron meme, but actually turning it around and saying, what an ungrateful dick. He got a medal.

1:42:44 That's interesting. Come on, isn't this what we do? We can listen to all these reports at the same time we could see who's on whose side. Right, well we know where NBC is. Now let's get to... because someone had mentioned this and we didn't know what was going on but apparently it got some legs and this is the, as we know from my Republican... what do we call them again? We have a name for them, Repub-a-bots? O-bots. No, not the O-bots, the Republican bots. Oh, the GOP bots. I don't know that we have a name for them. The knee jerks. I have no idea. Remember I had the dinner with the Republican guys and like, what about the big man? And I'm like, who are you talking about? Chris Christie. Oh, Chris Christie. He's the big white hope for the Republican Party for 2016. We might as well start some crap about him.

1:43:29 Well this started with a shutdown of one of the bridges, a couple lanes on a bridge to supposedly screw over a mayor in a nearby town. I got the hit piece clip and then I have the part two which is out of the hit piece clip. And this was a hit piece done by Scott Pelley in CBS, which by the way, I've come to the conclusion that Scott Pelley is very creepy. and I don't like the CBS evening news and I think it's totally corrupt and this particular report which went over three minutes I only have the beginning of it even brought a guy in to condemn Christie saying he's not gonna recover from this because it shows that he's a bully and they just keep calling him a bully he's no he was thought of as a bully and now it proves he's a bully and it wasn't him doing anything it was one of his aides. Pull out the bully meme. Now that's a bully meme.

1:44:22 Calling someone a bully is a big deal these days. This was a creation, it was artificial and there's one little bit in here which will play after this clip which highlights the level of crap, bull crap they're trying to come up with to submarine this character. The closures sparked accusations of political retribution against Fort Lee's Democratic Mayor Mark Sokolich, who did not endorse Republican Governor Chris Christie during his successful re-election bid. Christie denied the allegation. But now, emails and text messages reveal a top Christie aide appears to be responsible for the closures.

1:45:14 Last August, his deputy chief of staff, Bridget Ann Kelly, wrote, time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee. That email was sent to David Wildstein, a Christie ally, who at the time was a top official at the agency in charge of the bridge, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. His response to the directive? Got it. He wrote. When the closures happened, Fort Lee's mayor texted another Port Authority official, Christie appointee Bill Barone, saying, presently we have four very busy traffic lanes merging into only one toll booth. The bigger problem is getting kids to school. Help, please. It's maddening, said the mayor.

1:45:52 Another text message appears to revel in the result. Is it wrong that I am smiling was the reply. It's unclear who sent the message and who received it. The exchange continues. I feel badly about the kids, the unknown person writes. The unattributed response, they are the children of Buono voters. That's a reference to Barbara Buono, the Democrat who lost to Christie in November. New York officials came to the rescue, ordering the lane reopened. The disclosures come just weeks after Governor Christie said his senior staff denied any involvement. Okay, now let's go over the one main thing and then I want to go over the timeline because this is bullcrap.

1:46:35 And for one thing, a Democrat mayor is never expected to endorse a Republican governor. This is nonsense. It just never happens. Why would you do that? If you're a Republican mayor of a major city or small city, you do not endorse the other party's candidate for governor ever. It never happens. Especially not in Jersey. Yeah, especially not in Jersey. But here's the thing, which I have is this clip part two. This is the one that's titled Christie Part Two. This is the little snippet from that particular clip, which was

1:47:13 It was a exercise in creativity. This is bullcrap. There is no proof that this ever happened. And they admit it kind of if you listen to it, but they gloss it over. But listen to this again. Another text message appears to revel in the result. Is it wrong that I am smiling was the reply. It's unclear who sent the message and who received it. The exchange continues. I feel badly about the kids, the unknown person writes. The unattributed response, they are the children of Buono voters. So they make it look like They have no idea. They don't even they might even have a text message. It's total bullshit. What do you mean you don't know who sent it? It's a text message. You don't know who sent it and you don't know who received it, but here it is. We're running it on the news. CBS News. On the national news. CBS News. Yeah, of course. We don't know who sent it. We don't know who received it, but here it is. It could have been sent by me to you. They should have just said, according to documents released by Edward J. Snowden. I couldn't believe this piece. Here's how you do it.

1:48:19 According to documents released by Edward J. Snowden, another text message appears to revel in the result. That's how you do it. That's what they should have done. According to text message appears to revel in the results appears bull crap I mean, I can't believe this they got away with this and somebody that's running the network news Obviously is John come on operation Scott Kelly who's this lead anchor should have you know this corrupt never mind? I'm done. I mean, but the way that anyway what we do know is that somebody says it's time to create a traffic jam But she never said that She just made some comment. The guy says, yeah, okay. That was it. That's the only messages we have. And then the mayor goes, oh God, this is ruining us. And then the New York guys reopened the bridge. So I don't see what the problem is. This is a created, phony, this is a farce.

1:49:12 And I'm surprised that, you know, Christie is responding. Is he is he responding to this? I haven't seen anything. I don't know. Yeah, well, we're not reporting on breaking news. Hold on. Let's plug it in. What does this say? It comes out that he might have known something even a little bit about Christie. I'm embarrassed and humiliated. The immediate aftermath. He's got big problems that none of this are going to solve. He says I had big problems. Big problems. Oh, big problems. Big problems. He closed the bridge lane. They're trying to make a mountain out of this molehill that is not even necessarily his fault and it makes no sense that it would be. He cannot expect a Democrat mayor to endorse him for governor over a Democrat. It just makes no sense. This whole thing is contrived.

1:50:04 And the news media is all over it. They're pushing, oh he's done! They brought this guy in, I'm telling you, the guy's toast! He just won't wash off easy! He won't wash off easy. Well, it's starting early. They're desperate for advertising money for the political campaign for 2016. This is what the mainstream media does. They're desperate. Desperate I tell you. Anything. Anything to get it going. Anything to get some political action committees spending some money. Well they wouldn't want a strong candidate that would start to, you know...

1:50:45 cut down on their income. Ideally you want two weak candidates running against each other spending like crazy. Yeah. That's the ideal from the network perspective. Well but it would also be good to have Hillary and Christie. I think that's actually a very good combination for the networks. I think it is too but I think that There's somebody else calling the shots on who the Republicans is gonna be and it's obviously not Chris. It's the Bilderberg group, you know, you know how that works. That's not them, they're just a bunch of drunks. Hey, just on the bullying thing because they called Christie a bully, Virginia has a delegate Mark Keem has proposed a bill, a criminal ban on bullying and I have the text of the bill just to let you know where all this is headed. If any person

1:51:33 with the intent to coerce, intimidate or harass any person, uses a computer, including an electronic communication device or computer network, to engage in bullying as defined, which I'll do in a moment, he is guilty of a class 1 misdemeanor. Bullying. Bullying definition means any aggressive and unwanted behavior that is intended to harm intimidate or humiliate the victim, involves a real or perceived power imbalance between the aggressor or aggressors and victim, and is repeated over time or causes severe emotional trauma. Bullying includes cyberbullying. Bullying does not include ordinary teasing, horseplay, argument or peer conflict. That's some hardcore shit right there, man.

1:52:32 That's gonna be law. Yeah, well it's headed that way, yeah. So the posting, you suck. Would that be bullying? Well I think if a whole bunch of people piled on to the post, so for instance if I said Hillary Clinton is Lucifer and a whole bunch of people who hear the podcast start saying that and start posting it, that may look like some kind of imbalance and of course that is, I am harassing and humiliating obviously, through a computer network with a computer device. Yeah, I think in the state of Virginia, I should probably stay out of the state of Virginia. That's probably not a good idea to be there. Now this is a state law so they can do whatever they want. I just want to remind everyone that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press or the right of the people to peaceably assemble.

1:53:32 So on a federal level this would not be constitutional because that was the first amendment that I just read but on a State can do whatever they want. So I have to stay out of Virginia if this passes I could be arrested as a bully. Class well, you have to be accused of being a bully first. Yeah, yeah, of course You'd have to be some indictment or something and go to Virginia. It could happen. It could just happen We just like walking around and all of a sudden no. So... Yeah, well, yes, so... So... From the newsletter you identified that once again we were correct in asserting that the global news media would turn the clear chilling of the United States at least into a global warming story. Of course this happened immediately.

1:54:28 Just some headlines, climate change still real despite cold snap. How global warming can make cold snaps even worse. Polar vortex, climate change should be the cause, could be the cause of record cold weather. There was a great find by someone about Time Magazine. I'm just, yeah, did you see this? Yeah, that's great. Where in 1974 Time Magazine blamed the polar vortex global cooling. Yeah exact same phenomenon blamed on global cooling. Exact same thing blamed on global cooling. And they were saying this vortex was something new and then somebody else had a notice or found a reference to the same vortex which I guess becomes an issue once in a while in 1959 where it caused a bunch of problems. Yeah and and of course pay no attention to the X-class flare that that the Sun just spewed off at us which you might be warming who knows what's going on.

1:55:30 I don't know, but you know who knows? Al Sharpton knows. Did you see Al Sharpton's bit? I don't watch Al Sharpton. I banned myself from watching MSNBC. I don't watch Al Sharpton either, but I... Yeah, apparently you do. No, no, people send me stuff. Go ahead. I'm just... Al Sharpton in a laboratory with all kinds of lab glassware and bubbling fluids and everything in a lab coat, like he's a scientist, and here's his bit. This is the real MSNBC sound effects. I have not added anything to it. I like the bubbling. Yeah, well, it's a scientist lab. Welcome back to the first Politics Nation science lab of the new year.

1:56:17 In the lab tonight, a right wing meltdown over global warming. A winter storm is battering much of the country and climate change scientists were stuck in ice, which means the folks over at Fox have been trotting out a few theories of their own. Check it out. So it looks to me like we're looking at global cooling Forget this global warming and get this a global warming Scientologist had to be removed from his frozen vehicle after days of being trapped poetic justice much because for the past 16 years there has been no warming to speak of they called it Yeah

1:56:59 Did he say a global warming Scientologist? Yeah, I think he did actually let's go back. Oh my god. Yeah, no warming to speak of they called it Unusually thick ice. Well, I'm gonna go back a little bit more here I think forget this global warming and get this a global warming Scientologist had to be remote. Yeah, that's that moron Who used to do red eye or something on Fox? Yeah, cuz he's just misread the prompter. I mean all of us first of all we have we have Sharpton who can't read a prompter they are paying him money to do that show and that makes you really wonder What's wrong with NBC of course the other ones also didn't slam by it's and then you have these bolt heads It's MSNBC and there was an article

1:57:45 I put it in the show notes that the only person who runs MSNBC is Rachel Maddow. They call her the queen and if you aren't on board with her then you get fired and she runs the network which of course is why it's failing. From his frozen vehicle after days of being trapped poetic Just as much? Because for the past 16 years there has been no warming to speak of. They called it unusually thick ice. Well, I think it's because they're unusually thick people who have not been paying attention to the actual science on global warming for the past 18 years and still think that we're all about to roast like a chestnut on open fire. These right-wingers are boiling over with denial just because it snows in winter.

1:58:33 the And over 97% of climate researchers surveyed in the United States Academy of Science agrees. It sure doesn't take much for the folks at Fox to hit their melting point. The results of tonight's experiments are in. And we've deduced the right wing could use a new talking point.

1:59:08 This has been a special edition of the Politics Nation Science Lab. There's no real conflict! This guy is an idiot! He is a total moron. It's unbelievable that they pay him. Is it I think he gets some like couple million bucks. No that can't be true I'm telling you and our good of course now He's fallen a bit out of favor, but our our vice president Joe Biden. He had something to say And he and it's so sad because it's almost like watching your uncle mess it up. You know we oh god he did no crap put another way if we don't feel smart and

1:59:54 If we don't build resiliency in the communities, we're not going to be able to, in the next 2, 5, 10, 20 years, live along the coast. Manhattan is like much of my state. Now wait for it. It is essentially at sea level. You don't have much of an option. Now, I know there's global warming, global warmer deniers. I'm not going to get into that debate. It's a hard one to say, isn't it, Joe? What? Let's try it again. You don't have much of an option. Now, I know there's global warming, global warmer deniers. I'm not going to get into that debate.

2:00:38 The reality is, this is going to continue to happen. Oh, Joe, Joe, Joe. Global warmer, warmer debates. Global warmer denaga-doosies. Denaga-denaga-whatevers. Okay, then we have, so the White House- You gotta get a little peace. I'm sorry? You gotta clip that little piece and use it as an evergreen kind of a medley of these things. Let me just copy it into the evergreen. Okay, I got it. Remind me, I gotta edit that down. Okay, so obviously there's a lot going on. We have words like Arctic amplification.

2:01:16 you know, this is what it is, part of your vortex. And there's a lot of, whether it is true or not, there's a lot of media talking about why it obviously has to do with global warming. They're all over it, have to explain. And if you're the White House and the president, you know, just like five, four weeks ago said, hey, it's getting hot, which is basically what he said and now it's really cold and 80% of the United States just wants to watch everything that Marissa Meyer puts in front of him. You've got to bring out your guy, your main science guy, John Holdren. John Holdren of course is famously all on the global warming now climate change train, anti-nuke guy and they make him do a video for whitehouse.gov.

2:02:13 If you've been hearing that extreme cold spells, like the one that we're having in the United States now, disprove global warming, don't believe it. The fact is no single weather episode can either prove or disprove global climate change. Climate is the pattern of weather that we observe geographically and over the seasons, and it's described in terms of averages, variations, and probabilities. But a growing body of evidence suggests that the kind of extreme cold being experienced by much of the United States as we speak is a pattern that we can expect to see with increasing frequency as global warming continues. And the reason is this. In the warming world that we're experiencing, the far north, the Arctic, is warming roughly twice as rapidly as the mid-latitudes, such as the United States.

2:03:10 That means that the temperature difference between the Arctic and the mid-latitudes is shrinking. And that temperature difference is what drives what is called the circumpolar vortex, which is the great counterclockwise swirling mass of cold air that hovers over the Arctic. Beautifully depicted, by the way, in the video. Now, let's start with something here. Nothing confirms your blah blah blah. The 2000, everyone can go look this up. The 2011-2012 winter was hailed, and there's articles all over the place, hailed as proof of global warming because it was the quote unquote warmest winter in the history of the United States.

2:03:53 So that was like in 2000, that was two years ago. So now we have this thing and apparent, or I guess it was a year ago or two years ago, whatever. Now we have this thing and it doesn't mean a thing. I mean, these people have to make up their minds. Either the warmest winter in the history of the country means something or it doesn't. It did then, and now this is really galling. So here's my point. If we have these incredibly brilliant IPCC UN panel of scientists, who are basing their prediction and prognostication of 90% certainty of AGW brought on by humans, and that it's going to, by 2025, it's going to be 3 degrees warmer and the oceans will rise. If they have these models, if I was them, I would say, oh, by the way,

2:04:44 looking at the models you might get a really cold winter but they don't say that why do they forget to say that aren't they predicting all these great things no they never say that but when you have a warm winter like we did 2011-2012 you end up with it's confirmation we're doomed let's listen to the rest of this video because I just it's it's It's just fascinating propaganda. As the temperature difference between the Arctic and the mid-latitudes declines, the polar vortex weakens and it becomes wavier. Wavyness means there can be increased larger excursions of cold air southward, that is into the mid-latitudes, and in the other phase of the wave, increased excursions of relatively warmer mid-latitude air into the far north. Computer models tell us that there are many... And listen to that music.

2:05:40 It's playing backwards, it's vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv But I believe the odds are that we can expect as a result of global warming to see more of this pattern of extreme cold in the mid-latitudes and some extreme warm in the far north. That's all I wanted to hear. I just wanted to hear him say, as a result of global warming, it'll get colder. That's all I wanted to hear. Thank you. John P. Holdren, senior advisor to President Barack Obama on science and technology issues,

2:06:29 in his role as assistant to the president for science technology, director of the White House Office of Scientology Policy, and co-chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology. I wonder how they explain the great blizzard of 1899, but that's another story. I have a... you know, I mentioned I didn't like Scott Pelley... CBS. So I'm watching... this was actually a very small clip, this is a small clip, from a very long report about all the cold weather that was hitting Chicago and all the rest of it. And right at the beginning of the report, he drops this little weird thing into this reporting and I wanted, and it's obviously some sort of messaging and I can't put my finger on what, why, or it's just the craziest thing I've ever seen. It's almost, it's you know, CBS has really gotten something weird stuff going on with them.

2:07:26 It's cold in much of the country. Many places it's the coldest that it's been in decades. Tonight in Chicago, it will feel as if it is 50 below zero. It was so cold there today that the de-icing liquid used at O'Hare Airport froze. And Chicago's just the tip of the iceberg that is Middle America. In Indianapolis, where Miguel Silva was shoveling snow, the wind chill is in the minus 30s tonight. Oh, I heard it. Oh, I heard it. Chicago is just the tip of the iceberg in middle America because that's what it's going to be. No, that's not what I was. Yeah, no, I agree with that. I like that. That analysis is fine, but here's what got me.

2:08:07 He's going in the report and then he drops this guy's name in. Miguel Silva was shoveling snow. On the screen there is a picture of a guy's face, but his face is covered. So it could be anybody. The bottom part's covered by a scarf, the top part is covered by a hat, and you can see two eyes that have got like snow on them. And he just drops it, he says, in Indiana where Miguel Silva is shoveling snow, blah, blah, blah, blah. Why is this guy mentioned by name in this report in the first place? Unless it's code or it's a message from some, hey, mention Miguel Silva and then the operation fiscal year will begin. I mean, what is the point of this? I've never seen anything quite like it. Who's Miguel Silva? Well, you got me on that.

2:08:57 Excuse me. Ah, global warming. Um... Well, it is it reminds me of whenever the president... Right, they always bring a name. They bring some person. They usually have them up there and then they shoot. Oh yeah, so-and-so is a first grade teacher and you know, mini Ola. And they see a picture of hers there with sitting next to the president's wife. But I've never seen this in this sort of a news report. Some guy named, personally named, for shoveling snow. They don't show him shoveling snow by the way. just shows head let me have a significant that is middle america in indianapolis where mcgill silver was shoveling snow the windshield is in the minus thirties tonight indianapolis indianapolis i'm just gonna look at the things you can find mcgill silver in indianapolis i don't know yet you'd be uh... but i've got no answer but i agree that it can these things are also often done in news just to

2:10:03 Personalize it could be someone's buddy. You know there's a lot of ways that it could be somebody's buddy is a joke Maybe could be but this was a little bit off the wall, and it wasn't personalizing anything for anyone I agree It was a code so something's up Well CBS, so CBS has had a lot of weird stuff and you know of course we totally busted him on the bullcrap John Miller NSA story which you know is just complete non-information because by law he couldn't do that and that's why they put him in there and that's why it was a deal. We have the girl who got dismissed because of the Benghazi story

2:10:40 Then we have this weirdness and CBS also... It's also the Chris Christie story and the phony messages. They're also going after the administration's 100 billion dollars for green energy that came from the stimulus. They're calling it the pay-to-play green energy fund. I'm not quite sure where they are. I don't know who they represent. I mean obviously we know the corporate interests, but I'm not sure I can connect them to any particular group. It doesn't look like they're really pro anybody. They're just anti everybody. I think we have to keep an eye on them. Oh dude, I'm with you. Well that's our job. Meanwhile, the fake Ashima stuff still

2:11:33 continues to propagate. That is not nuclear radiation fallout that you're seeing, that is indeed steam that you're seeing from the TEPCO Unit 3 reactor. I got some links in the show notes about that, not going to get into that deeply. But the thing that I found interesting At the midst of the United States certainly being and the Euro land being against nuclear energy The Chinese have announced they are going all in a nuclear and not just future stuff stuff that works today Dangerous. Yeah Because the Chinese when they really if they do it and they they don't have Look, the Chinese see the writing on the wall. Now, let's go to South Sudan. The Chinas are freaking out 80% of

2:12:22 South Sudan oil goes to China. These are Chinese companies that are there. China is freaking out. They don't know what to do. They have a policy, the Chinese do, or a spoken policy of not interfering in other countries' business. But they're going to have to close up shop and obviously the United States, with our Hollywood boys to make it look good for the Yahoo public, I'll just put it that way, we'll call them the Yahoo public. I like it, I like it. Marissa Meyers people, Marissa's mention.

2:12:59 They're just going to let everything... Rubble! It's another rubble play and it's great because China of course has been circumventing our petrodollar by selling... they have a deal with the Russians, they're also opening up an exchange of oil for gold. This is exactly what happened to Gaddafi. He wanted to sell oil for gold. This is what is going on. This is why we need to shut down Iran. Because it's about the petrodollar if people stop using the United States dollar for buying and selling oil and gas products The dollar has no standing so anyone who does that needs to be eliminated. That was Saddam Hussein he started selling in euros and for gold now we can't just go and attack China and

2:13:49 So let's cut off their supply and China is retaliating in the smartest way by saying, you know what, I think we're going to do nuclear. This thing seems good. We don't have it anyway. We're buying nuclear. No, I think that this could also eliminate their smog problem. Big time. I mean, all those stories about the deadly smogs will be eliminated within just a decade if they go all nuke. I want to play one hit piece on Fukushima that ran locally on KPIX. This was about the Geiger counter story. They decided to run it as a news story. The one that we debunked? Yeah, the one we debunked. And so they brought out a... You'd have to see the visuals. I'll give you the visuals before you play it. First, they bring out a guy who's a professor of nuclear physics, I think, at Cal. And he's sitting in a chair awkwardly and he's talking about this bullcrap. And it's pretty convincing except for his appearance.

2:14:43 And then they cut to a guy who just happens to be a member of the Unitarian Church locally. My church. The guy is sitting in a pair of big oversized jeans with suspenders and a flannel work in the field shirt and with a full beard in a house full of clutter. And he's sitting there telling it like it is from his perspective, because this is the balance. You have a professor that says this bullshit, then you have a man on the street who's a complete lunatic, Berkeley lunatic, talking about, well, you better be safe than sorry. Okay, I liked it. Has radiation from Japan's Fukushima plant finally reached California's coastline? Well, one viral video on YouTube says it has. Reporter Ryan Takeo on what looks like alarming radiation levels and the real story behind it. Here I am on the bluff. The reading was taken on Pacifica State Beach just before Christmas. The video's creator uses a Geiger counter to measure radiation.

2:15:58 As he walks toward the water, the Geiger counter shows the radiation increasing five-fold. The video started popping up on the Facebook news feeds of people like Katrina Martin. The link came with an ominous headline. Fukushima radiation hit San Francisco. Martin has seen her friends' comments on social media. They're worried the increased radiation levels are caused from the Fukushima nuclear plant after the 2011 earthquake. Someone going around for the first time with a Geiger counter is likely to discover these great variations in levels from time to time. UC Berkeley professor Edward Morse says the radiation levels are naturally occurring. That's absolutely no correlation with anything that happened in Fukushima. To prove his point, he brought out these rocks that tested off the charts for radiation.

2:16:44 He thinks something like this could have caused a spike in the video. Berkeley resident Gene Herman does not think we ought to dismiss concerns about radiation. And if it doesn't and it gets worse, I told you so, it's not going to help. He's skeptical about the video but says even if it's a false alarm, there's still reason for concern and to keep an eye on those in charge. Not necessarily for me, I'm too old to get I have grandchildren. In Berkeley, Ryan Ticant, KPIX5. Wow! Wow! That's the way you do it. Yeah, I got grandchildren. They're all gonna die. It's unbelievable that they would have this old coot on who knows nothing. We agreed we weren't gonna say unbelievable or astounded or surprised. I never said unbelievable. I said astonishing, amazing is the word. Oh, okay.

2:17:40 I received an email from Tyler who said while listening to the disgusting gurglings of Thaum Hartman on the last show, and you'll recall that this was about these sailors who apparently are refiling their lawsuit which was thrown out. Yes. I says, I noticed his guest forgot one tiny little detail. The USS Ronald Reagan is a nuclear aircraft carrier. Of course they have radiation detection equipment. Everybody on board knows about radiation exposure, radiation sickness. They have containment teams, nuclear engineers, power plant operators, every piece of equipment and training anyone would need or want to deal with a radioactive release event. Everybody. That's a good one. Yeah. Little meta. Yeah, good call. Good call.

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2:21:18 Okay, Michael Bowling in, or Bowling depending, $101.01 in Goleta, California. Richard Woods in Westbury, New York, $100. Every time I hear Adam mention that coding is hard, I think to myself, I gotta give these guys some money. Okay, but what is it? He says the way people seem to talk about computer programming these days is that every program is easy to make as a myspace page and Bosses start to get the idea. They can ask for a full featured app or website and have it ready the next morning Yeah, thank you. Thank you for noticing. This is true and

2:21:54 This is like the CI is what friend of mine who was going to law school once mentioned that shows like CIS and you know CSI CSI CSI and all these shows that showed these cops doing all this extra work and finding a hair and then determining it the hair came from a Tibetan wool blanket that was sold at this shop I Yeah, right. I mean that's what they do. In Ankara. Yeah, in Ankara. And so they are poisoning, his claim is they're poisoning the jury pool with this nonsense. And this is poison. Because it's all nonsense. So what is this poisoning?

2:22:37 This is poisoning the CEO, the executive suites. Yeah. That you can do these kinds of things overnight. They don't, you know, that's why I always think it's better that they're sitting, they wanted Mulally to take over Microsoft. And so they don't need a tech guy because the tech guys, Malali is a Ford chairman and CEO. Oh, okay. Yeah, I got it. So they and so the argument I was watching this on the business report, the argument was, oh, they don't need a tech guy as CEO because they got Bill Gates on the on the is the chairman of the board. Yeah. This is how dumb is that? This is why Marissa Meyer is perfect for Yahoo because she's a tech chickie.

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2:27:38 And he just thinks we're shows great. So I want to thank them and everybody else who helped us out on show 581 remembering that Sunday's another show we have all kinds of cool stuff coming up. We just keep digging and digging and now we keep digging and all we keep finding is mismanagement, corruption, lies and deceit. And humor everywhere. Well it is funny. There's just there is humor everywhere. It's funny. It's funny. Dvorak.org slash nn. It's your birthday, birthday on Noah's channel. Gary Owens says happy birthday to his daughter Michelle. She was born on January 10th. Happy birthday from your buddies here. John to his BFF.

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2:29:49 Dear John and Adam, greetings from the crack and pussy capital of Canada, that's Toronto. You'll find two money orders for a hundred bucks each. I forgot to send you these four months ago. I figured it was time for another donation. Thanks for your courage. Funny, I got an email about Tom Ford, the mayor of Toronto. Yeah? From Paul, I think he's one of the book guys, and he says you guys have been rightly so dismissing the whole Rob Ford thing as a distraction. It really isn't, he says. It's a media hit job. Interesting. At its prime in Toronto, all the media attacked. Radio stayed on 24-7. Blah blah blah. His crimes not being polished. Compliant slave of the rich. Yes. Apparently, and of course he still is in office, people like him. And I think the Candanavians kind of like him even better now that all this happened. And Paul is actually saying, if it wasn't for no agenda, I wouldn't have seen this for all that it was.

2:30:49 Because he was someone who would cancel contracts, respect the taxpayer, he outs corruption. Apparently he likes crack, but you know... Interesting though, I'm not going to say that I wouldn't believe that in a heartbeat. Yeah, okay, well we'll look at it from that perspective and see what I think it's the whole that whole situation is over I think it played out. Oh, yeah, but it would give it a shot. Yeah interesting So it's a no agenda thinking you never know. So now that's right any media Now that the big advertising buys are over and the Christmas shopping season is done, I guess we can finally start talking about the Target cyber attack. Because obviously, you know, the commercials have run, the ad buy has been paid out, everything's good, so now we can start bringing up, oh, I don't know,

2:31:43 Cyber legislation. committee leadership to hold a hearing as soon as reasonably possible on the safety of consumer financial data. The point of the hearing, does Congress need to pass tougher cybersecurity rules? The senators say they want to examine whether market participants are taking all appropriate actions to safeguard consumer data against fraud and identity theft. And specifically in Target's case, how did the hackers penetrate their systems and why did it last

2:32:26 more than two weeks. No response or date yet on when the hearing might be. The Senate is out of session until January 6th. Okay, so they're cranking that up and obviously the cyber legislation has been a long time coming. Everyone's very, very excited about this because it means a lot of money for a lot of companies and it was producer Ryan... Especially Richard Clark. Oh yeah. Producer Ryan, who sent me an interesting note regarding the NDAA 2014, which we pulled apart, he said the idea of calling hack attempts, etc., cyber weapons, and you know, especially in conjunction with the term proliferation of cyber weapons, he says it really sounds a lot like we might be getting weapons inspectors, just like, well of course we had UNSCOM, United Nations Special Commission,

2:33:22 And we could see because this term was this this is one of our producers This is a great great analysis isn't it? Oh? Yeah, it's absolutely it makes nothing but sense spot-on So he says in the Gulf War, he has a lot of, it's a good analysis. The Curry-Dvorak cyber inspection. Well, it should be weapons inspectors. Weapons inspectors, cyber weapons inspectors. Yes, in the Gulf War, the inspectors, this was the weapons inspectors, were given unrestricted freedom of movement without advance notice in Iraq. So these weapons inspectors, they have free reign to do anything.

2:34:08 They get and they get full compliance from all you and we can pick up. Are you kidding me? Cool, huh? Because we were trying to yeah, we were trying to figure out why were they using this terminology and well, there you go. I ran into a story local story that that was the analog of the noodle boy. Oh, no, only it's a it's a city clerk. He said, have I got this clip here? City clerk noodle boy. It's a city clerk that was elected

2:34:44 As a city clerk and the city clerk's job, and this is in Pleasant Hill, California nearby, the city clerk's job is to, the only real job that you have is to take minutes of the city council meetings. And she's decided that this is not what she wants to do. She'd rather tweet at the meeting so people can get involved. She has all of 300 followers. And so she tweets, she doesn't do the minutes because she wasn't hired to be a stenographer, even though that's her job. And she's very arrogant about it, and when they show her, you have to imagine you're gonna hear her. She's a fast-talking uptalker. It's kind of a hipster. She's kind of, you know, a millennial looking type. She's always on the phone during the interview typing tweets out. She's a tweeting nut. And this to me is just noodle boy, a female version.

2:35:37 Well, a city clerk is defending herself tonight after critics say she should quit for not doing her job. The Pleasant Hill City Clerk has been sending a stream of tweets to her followers while failing to produce city council minutes for the past year. She was elected to the job last year. ABC 7 News reporter Laura Anthony is live tonight with more. Laura. Well, hi, Cheryl. The very first thing listed on the job description for city clerk here in Pleasant Hill, that is to quote, keep accurate records of the proceedings of the city council. Now, Kim Lemke told us, or she admitted she hasn't been doing very well at that. But she says she does other things quite well.

2:36:15 take ownership absolutely of the lack of timeliness of getting that work product in. Pleasant Hill City Clerk Kim Lemke told ABC 7 News she got the message. It was hard for me as a council member to go back and look at and understand the history of what we did. It came loud and clear from the mayor and city council that after a year on the job she needs to start producing minutes. minutes, perhaps rather than tweeting during meetings. I really take issue with the sort of idea that it's very easy to sort of contemporaneously record all of these minutes if I wasn't screwing around on Twitter. And unfortunately, I think that's a really misunderstanding of the medium. The 34-year-old Lemke was elected to the $7,000 per year part-time clerk's position in November 2012. Until very recently, though, Lemke failed to produce any minutes from a year's worth of meetings.

2:37:04 expects and deserves to have those records available, the legislative history of the organization. Tweety. City staff did try to get Lemkewell to produce minutes, even offering her training. But in a comment to the Bay Area News Group, Lemkewell said, quote, I didn't run for this job to be a stenographer. I ran for this job because I do believe in government transparency and I want to make a product that's actually useful. Lemkeel is a prolific tweeter, something she does throughout the often hours-long city council meetings to her 300 plus followers. The Twitter engagement has been great and people who are working or who are at home are able to be a part of the conversation. Lemkeel says just this week she finished one quarter of the past year's missing minutes and she told us she'll make up the rest in the weeks to come. You know what, she should go work for Yahoo.

2:37:55 She talks about work product and media and you know I mean it's just like The engagement has been terrific and everyone's now part of the conversation It's all these cliches from the whole scene If you saw her Okay that is actually a depressing piece This is the kind of thing that actually will depress me All this other stuff I laugh about To hear this, that's really My work product? My work product. Yeah, here's my sex product, which is a part of my work product, which has a lot of engagement, so the conversation is really, really compelling. Wow. It's Noodle Boy. Sorry? I said it's Noodle Boy. Yeah, we shouldn't play Noodle Boy, should we? We could. I don't feel like Noodle Boy. I got Noodle Boy. I don't want to play Noodle Boy. Okay, that's fine. I want to read something to you.

2:38:54 The war on crazy, you recall that the Health and Human Services Department, that's Kathleen Sebelius, you know, they're proposing these new rules for what constitutes crazy enough not to be allowed to have a gun. So they're releasing stuff now. Would you like to hear it? Yeah, I'm all ears for this one. Okay, the proposed rule would clarify the statutory term, and this is the big one, adjudicated as a mental defective. Now this is on the books everywhere. We've talked about this in the past. This is on the books in Texas. If you are adjudicated as a mental defective, then you cannot buy a gun. This will now include persons who are found incompetent to stand trial or not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect, lack of mental responsibility,

2:39:48 insanity and that the term includes persons found guilty but mentally ill. The department recognizes the term mentally defective is outdated. Aha! But it is included in the statute and cannot be amended by regulation. This is very interesting. So they want to change something they can't really So the proposed amendments would further clarify that federal, state, local, and military courts are recognized lawful authorities that can find persons incompetent to stand trial or find them not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect, lack of mental responsibility, or insanity. So mental responsibility, I think that's the key one here.

2:40:38 Regarding whether the statutory term adjudicated as a mental defective includes an adjudication that occurred when the person was under the age of 18, that is also something new. So under 18 you're a moron basically and if you do something crazy that may now be classified as mentally defective if you did something crazy when you were under 18. But I'm seeing here as a four-page document it goes on to clarify the legal Terms but mental responsibility which can now be declared by a federal state local a military court I think that's kind of where this is headed. It's the mental responsibility and Responsibility of course is a pretty open-ended term all right well. We'll keep following. Yeah, that's some just just mentioning it as Part of what's going on. I was when I was thinking about donations. I ran into this little clip of

2:41:33 of Spielberg and Lucas and somebody else sitting at a roundtable discussing the future of movies. And the reason I was interested in this because I've always tried to equate people to give to the No Agenda show or contribute to the show or donate to the show, whatever you want to call it, advertising, it's not. and movies what it costs to go to the theater. And so Lucas seems to be of the mind that the theater experience is going to change drastically and puts it on par with what you pay for a football game which is radically, is just depressing because it's like I think they, well anyway, play the future. Hold on a second, football games are expensive to go to. Yeah. Like 75 bucks? 75 is cheap. Yeah.

2:42:22 What's a UT game? It's UT games for 75 bucks. Yeah, UT. What you're going to end up with is fewer theaters, bigger theaters, with a lot of nice things going to the movies is gonna cost you 50 bucks maybe a hundred maybe a hundred and fifty Broadway cost today it's like Broadway or going to you know a football game I don't think I mean I think eventually the Lincolns are gonna go away and they're gonna be on television you're not well but I mean it's close but that's HBO this close 150 bucks to go to the movies. That'll be interesting. Well, we have in Austin, we have one of those theaters that serves food and drinks and you've got huge recliner chairs. Yeah, that's what he's talking about. Yeah. Have you been to that? No. No. People say it's great. Do they show good movies or what's the deal? Let me think what it's called. It's called something house, roundhouse. Let me see.

2:43:24 Let's do Austin Luxury Movie Theater. No, I've not been. I think we tried to go once and you book it basically like an airline ticket. Yeah, you do. I pick theaters. There you go. Ipic theaters. Ipictheaters.com. You look at it, you'll see like big red plush reclining seats and see what movies. Yeah, I think they'd have. Also, it's at the domain, I think, which is that place that I despise. Where the you know oh the celebration clones? Yeah exactly show times and tickets. Let's see what do we have here? so they've got American hustle anchorman to grudge match and what are the costs let's see American hustle Let's see what they're charging for that anybody pay a hundred to fifty bucks to go see anchorman to You know one it just doesn't make sense to me sadly yeah probably

2:44:22 Probably and there's no price here for tickets, but it's it's up there for sure for sure you're also You're forbidden from using your phone if you even turn on your phone they kick you out You told me this yeah, and they really do kick you out like no joke kick you out immediately. No questions asked done You're out so okay another piece. I've been wanting to run a clip I've been wanting to run which is the counter-argument McDonald's if you remember about Four or five months ago I had a clip from Fox, one of those Fox shows with round table shows. Oh yeah, and they were promoting McDonald's by eating it or something? Yeah, eating it on the... Well, McDonald's is not letting up. And I think a lot of this has to do with that movie that they decided to do a counter movie to that movie, Super Size It.

2:45:11 Remember that movie? Yeah, it was more like a documentary than a movie, but yeah. Now this puff piece, which is, I think, I can't prove it, I don't know if it ran anyplace but local because I doubt it. It looks like a video press release to me that was done by McDonald's and fed to all the stations around the country. And I was just gonna say this is a very good, very well done counter bull crap. Iowa man is sharing the results of an experiment. What would happen if he ate nothing but McDonald's for 90 days? And the answer may surprise you. High school teacher John Cisna took these before and after pictures. The one on the left where he's thinner was taken after three months of eating McDonald's. He lost almost 40 pounds. His students devised daily menus based on a 2,000 calorie diet and the daily recommended amounts of fat, calories, carbohydrates and protein.

2:46:04 This isn't something to say, well, he only went to McDonald's and ate salads. Uh-uh. I had the Big Macs. I had the quarter pounders with cheese. I had every, I had Sundays. I had ice cream cones. Orange juice. Sisson also started walking every day, which no doubt helped too. He says the point of the experiment was to show making wise nutritional choices works even at a place like McDonald's. Yeah, good. That's great. By the way people, there is no need to email us the YouTube clip of Conan with all the scripted local news things. We know this. You don't need to tweet it anymore. It's like we know this. Yeah. It's like we know how this works. This is one of those pieces.

2:46:53 Yeah, they float around. They come up and they can't believe it. Conan has a good one thing. Conan does well He's got a staff on the lookout for these things and we do the same thing. I think differently I think he's on the list. I think he's on the list of the of the canned pieces. Oh he might be and then he gets a canned piece and then they just go search for the red pills. Yeah and then they wait for something funny. Well that's like what we do when we take a press release or some article that seems kind of interesting and there's some funny wording, you pull the wording out and then you do a search on Google for that wording and you see the thing crop up all over town. Yep. And it's exact word for word.

2:47:32 This is about that 1871 thing and all that. That's all part of this, somebody put out a press release or something. I'm still working on it. I just want to, for those of you using a Mac, particularly if you haven't upgraded like I have, I mean, this Mac is the one that I bought when I built the studio in Los Angeles. So how long ago? Four years ago? Five, almost five years ago. Seems like forever. Yeah, so it still has 10.6.8 Snow Leopard. And I've been having a lot of problem, particularly with this Mac, which is the Studio Mac, and I don't want to upgrade. You've heard me say, oh, it's hanging, I've got beach ball. Turns out, and I blog this, blog.curry.com, but it's also in the show notes, you will get a new computer when you do this. There's a command you do in the terminal, and it resets the launch services database, which is kind of like the registry on Windows.

2:48:31 Oh my god, have you heard of this John? No, but it's not doesn't sound like something I'd like. Well, you just you enter one command. It's one command line and it's like your computer like you have a new computer. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. You do that with the registry. Well, I mean, I don't know anything about the registry. I don't know how that works. But this launch services database, apparently it gets confused or something. I'd never heard of this before. I never heard of it. And because I would literally open the spreadsheet and would launch services. Sounds a lot like registry. That's what I'm saying. It's like a registry. And it's but people I blog this. And of course, I tweeted the blog to start a conversation. I got lots of engagement from this.

2:49:16 And people saying, oh my God, like there was, I was about ready to toss my Mac and I did this and it fixed it. So I just wanted to share that with everybody. And, and show has got all kinds of dimensions of value. Well, here's another piece of value. So I decided that I'm looking into this email thing. How can I make it better? And it turns out there's a lot of articles about this. Using hashtags in your subject line is actually quite an interesting idea. And if you're emailing me, I'd like you to try that. Hashtag NA and then hashtag the subject, so it would be Agenda 21, hashtag War on Crazy, all caps.

2:49:56 Hashtag, Snowjob, whatever it is. It really makes a difference. Why? Because I can see in the subject line immediately what it is and I can organize and categorize. It makes a big difference. I've been trying it. And in my email client, I can actually change the subject line upon replying or just if I want to change it just right then and there, which is most email programs can't do that. And it really helps. I'm just testing stuff. Yeah, okay. He's going to get more organized. Yeah, so you should totally ignore what I'm doing. Well, I will be. Just ignore it. I do have one last clip. All right, good. There's another one of these puff pieces that was done on local news about the future of everyone can look forward to their jobs. The big opening, the great opportunity we have in this country is not manufacturing.

2:50:53 It's not even services. I'm just seeing the clip, I'm like what clip is it? Oh I know what the clip is. Is it career of the future? This is our future. And most disadvantaged neighborhoods. Excellent people, hardworking people and they do a great job for us. And it's a great job and we're giving back to society and I think that's a great thing. Promote from within? Promote from within. Experts say besides recycling center jobs, many other jobs are created in remanufacturing of new products. Such things as paper, cardboard, plastic items, fertilizers and many more at substantially less cost than the same from raw materials. Well, recycling has created almost a million jobs in the United States already. And we're only recycling about 34% of what we could be recycling. And consider this, for every single job in a landfill, recycling creates 10 to 15 times more jobs.

2:51:48 Nationally, if we step up recycling the way San Francisco has, we can create 1.5 million new jobs. 150,000 jobs, new jobs to be created here in California. You're not looking at dead-end jobs anymore? No. I feel like this is a real career. All right. You want to say something? A real career. Let me say something. I am a huge fan of the garbage collection services, Department of Sanitation. If you look at the history... You know, in New York City, the sanitation department has very spiffy uniforms. And the reason... they were heroes when the Department of Sanitation just started. They saved the city of New York from basically everybody dying.

2:52:38 because people would just throw their trash out the window, throw poop in the street. Yeah. And they were heralded as heroes and I think that the sanitation and recycling workers and I'll add the United States Postal Service to that are absolutely heroes. It's a great, great business to be in. Well first of all, I'm not going to say that you're wrong on this but the way this piece was done, first they had these lines of crap flying past these pickers and what they're talking about they're not talking about somebody who's going from place to place. I had no context I didn't see it. It's pickers, it's pickers the guys on the the recycling. I didn't see this I did not see this. So you grab a piece of paper and you throw it over here you grab a can you throw it over here because we have a lot of places that have mixed recycling so you get to mix all your stuff up.

2:53:25 And this is all, this is not a career, this is going to eventually be automated to an extreme. There will be nobody doing these jobs. Okay, you understand I had no context about the video. No, but I admire what you said. I think it's absolutely correct. There's nothing wrong with being a garbage man. They can't call him that anymore. Waste collection management. Yeah, whatever. It's, you know, work product. It's garbage. So garbage in, garbage out. It's fine, but... It's just nonsense. No, that is nonsense and this of course is the future. If I had a kid right now, I probably would not encourage them to go to college. I don't see, you know, there's no jobs there. Yeah, well there never was. There never was? I mean, you don't go to college. I got a degree in history. I didn't go to college to get a job. If I wanted to get a job, I just got in the job. I used to get jobs all the time. You went to college to get laid?

2:54:24 Well, there's that. And get drunk and get high? Part of the process. That's our culture, ladies and gentlemen. All right. Let me wind up then with my final clip of the day. And a milestone set by former President George Herbert Rutherford Bush and his wife Barbara tonight. Today is their 69th anniversary. I just love it when Diana's drunk. George Jebberhopper Gabber. By former President George Herbert Rutherford Bush and his wife Barbara tonight. Drunk again. Drinking cyanide. Drunk again.

2:55:10 There you go everybody. I promise I get us out of 245 and we're just a little hair over that so well the 14 million dollars a year I think at least for Diane yeah, what do you think Katie Couric is making over there at the Yahoo's? I'll be giving her a couple mil. I couldn't do it man. I don't care how much you pay me I couldn't do it. I could you could no I did and I it didn't work out for me. I I was a I was you don't need to you know you only need X amount of money by groceries I mean yeah true it's like you know no you're absolutely right it's used as an ego boost more than anything at some point she maybe get me five I don't know you know that Marissa Meyer is obviously a fanboy so oh yeah end of Saturday Night Live and it was probably Katie's agent who did the deal yeah so fangirl might be more appropriate

2:56:05 Anyway, I'm saying more Oscar de la Renta in technology. I'm all down with that. Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state, Austin, Texas. In the morning, everybody. My name's Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it hasn't rained in a year, I'm John C. Dvorak. And we'll be back on, gee, Sunday with another episode of the best podcast in the universe. Please join us and remember to support us at dvorak.org slash NA. Until then, in the morning. The hell was that? Something went incredibly wrong.