Episode 581 • • 44:11 - 52:04
581: Message from the Future
NSA, Israeli Intelligence, Narus and Verint
The discussion explores the deep technical ties between the National Security Agency (NSA) and Israeli intelligence firms. Citing James Bamford's work, the hosts explain how companies like Narus and Verint, founded in Israel, provide the mass surveillance infrastructure used by American telecom giants like AT&T and Verizon.