Mysterious Erratic

00:00 We're really a comedy show. This news is funny! Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah It's Sunday December 22nd 2013 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 576 This is no agenda Dissecting media lies to make you feel better! From FEMA Region 6 in the Travis Heights hideout in Austin, Texas. Good morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm taking the plastic bottle by the horns I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot & Buzzkill In The Morning Okay... My new sound effect Play it again Sam

00:43 It is just like the crunch of boots on Jack not jack boots on Jack boots on fresh snow That's that's actually uncanny That's pretty that's uncanny sounding actually let's do a little skit, okay? "'Twas the night before Christmas." Wait a minute, wait-wait. Wait until I get to the mouse part. Cue the marching soldiers? Hold on... "'Twas the night before Christmas..." Oh let me do it again. "'Twas the night before Christmas when all through the house not a creature was stirring not even a mouse.' However! The brown shirts were out!" God

01:34 Yes, that is the ghost of Christmas future ladies and gentlemen played by John C. Dvorak All right Strikes what's that incredible no agenda show strikes again? So I'm running and I'm on a Windows 8 machine Okay Actually what I tried to do I chose you gotta get something back to my workplace where I like to do the show rather than The main machine were right mm-hmm So I decided, I've got one of these little...I have a small box that runs Windows 8. In fact it's Windows 8.1 Pro Preview build 9431 that has not been pulled back for some reason and I don't know why they usually cancel these things but uh... Can they do that? Do they do that remotely? It just stops working? Yeah, I think they..I don't know how they do it Whatever the case is, I suspect on Tuesday They will be killed but whatever

02:25 But I wanted to do, I figured. I'm doing it! I'm going all in and I'm gonna go Linux. Oh! I got Ubuntu 12.04 I've got Skype 4.2. Wait a minute, so you're running on Ubuntu right now? No no, I'm running on Windows 8.1 Pro Preview but i wanted to run on...I loaded up the Ubuntu Oh okay! I missed that Okay you want it to do that Got it yeah Realize you know there's something in Linux It works and was stunning So the thing worked The USB speakers came on The weird ASIO wireless keyboard worked out Right out of the box

03:02 of the wireless mouse from Logitech where everything came up except networking. No, the networking came by... Everything came up except M-Audio. Oh! No driver. Going to Linux is like dating a lesbian. It's just doesn't... There is always one thing you know there something that it doesn't put out. Hold on a second first of all can you lower your volume just a little bit? Just a tad, because you're just on the edge of distortion. The edge of distortion? How's that? I don't know we'll find out Well anyway so... So I... Hold on a second have you ever dated a lesbian?! I imagine dating one though. I have! In college i had sex once and the next day she said uh i think i'm a lesbian

03:56 That's the that's the response before the last time you told me My daughter still loves that story doesn't matter how many times I tell it Funniest bits and I can you caught me off guard cuz I used to said this a dozen. I know it's true though So anyways, so that's what Linux is like Whatever the case, it had all these options for the microphones and none of them worked. I just could not get Skype to work... And by the way, Skype 4.2 running on Linux sucks! It doesn't have the right interface, it stinks! Yeah. I mean, it's just no good. Everything else with Linux is fine but its always the one thing with Linux

04:35 that you wanted to do and there it is again, this one thing you wanted to do and it won't do it. Well the good news is of course that because of the nature of Linux You could actually get in there and make it work, something you wanted to do. True I could make it work yeah and I'm sure if I got on enough forums someone said oh yeah well you're an idiot because you should have installed blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahbl Yeah, no it's true. With the MacBook Air which is very... The original MacBook Air 3.1 for the first version is very hard to get a dual load thing going on that ESI or whatever its called to get Linux to dual boot and once you've gone through that pain to get that to work

05:30 It turns out the for some reason, the driver even if you use the what is it? The experimental external third party driver for the Wi-Fi. For some reason has it at very low power and the Wi-Fi literally does not have the reach these things can drive you nuts but it could be fixed Yeah, everything could be fixed. But I still have a dual booting and it will load Linux and it's got... Everything works fine except for this one thing which is the one thing that I put on there for which is the problem And again, it doesn't really run Photoshop You can run Wine and make Photoshop work So I just dual-booted over to Windows side and thats why Im overmodulated There's always one thing without Windows

06:20 Over modulate at least it works. Yeah, well sounds reasonable. It's always about the drivers It's always about the drivers that's in computing isn't it always about the drivers? Yeah I think so All right. I had a weird thing happen this morning as I'm going through you know the system getting all the stories etc We know how Google from time to time just throws people in jail and You know, like you had with Dvorak.org? Oh right! Right... You got the malware malicious site with a little robber sticking his hand through the computer monitor stealing your secrets So Google has decided to do this for the Russian news agency RIA Why?! Well they say that it's a known malware site now Could be But that's big I mean

07:15 It's hard to if you go to ria.ru right now This thing will keep popping up every time it loads something it's almost impossible to get through that website We're and I and sometimes there's actually you have to do it obviously Chrome is blocking it right now, and then you know it'll spread what happens with with Firefox? It usually takes a couple days before firefox does that before they before they take Google's database which they take blindly Yeah, of course. It won't load? I'm not getting anything. Now what's interesting is that Putin closed the news agency so it could be kind of a double whammy where Putin called up Sergei and said hey shut that thing down man! I'm get nothing. Okay well there you go. Says its transferring data but... Hey last night

08:21 You know, obviously I was... It came up. Did you get the malware thing? No. Last night I'm messing around and reading the emails and all of a sudden like oh my gosh we sometimes are so jaded or I am maybe you thought of this This Target thing, this target 40 million break-in now you'll recall on Thursday's show I said ah! We went shopping at Target And I can tell you exactly the day we went shopping at Target, which was December 12th. And after the show after we'd uploaded everything and yeah what the hell? I might as well take a look...and yeah there were I think five transactions to X holiday fun whatever and these were all in the hundreds of dollars

09:18 There were multiple for eat now food services, for you know like 60 or 80 dollars all pop up about for a week this has been going on. So this is probably two and a half thousand dollars is gone because we only have debit cards. We don't have credit card, you know debit cards right? And so I go through the whole thing you call up the bank and of course you may have consumer protections in America. You don't really worry about it but you won't get the money credited for at least 10 days. You have to sign the form. Well I had this happen to me not from Target but yeah So so we got nailed by target and it's of course now I have a vested interest. I'm interested I start looking around a little bit more and the first thing I think to myself is self a 40 million credit cards stolen And as of course, I was able to get some information out of the girl at the bank mechanics Bank here They're friendly they really you know say hey, no Is this a lot? Well yeah We got a lot of people calling there's all kinds of stuff going on It's like okay

10:19 So this is pretty big and it's pretty widespread, and I start really looking for news. And I'm watching all the news shows... ...and I see very sparse, very little information about this! Like, why is it? I mean why am i not seeing every single congressman and senator doing live interviews about cyber terrorism because this is taking into consideration this happened in the busiest shopping after Black Friday. The busiest shopping period of the year! It's also peculiar can you play the clip I have about this which is security code stolen

11:00 Yes, and then I want to continue. Hackers breached tens of millions of credit card and debit accounts at the height of the shopping season just before Thanksgiving and right up until December 15th The theft occurred when people swiped their cards in-store not online The retailer confirmed that customers names credit cards and debit cards numbers and security codes were stolen Right. And a couple things, so I went back as far as i could of course...I'm really late to the research party on this and so Google is contaminated. Initially Target only said they had- they only started talking about this after they had done some investigation so it didn't come out immediately

11:42 Initially, they said up until December 5th. Then they changed that to December 15th and again This is a primo prime example truly an example of American infrastructure Being terrorized by cyber terrorists cyber criminals now although it may be an inside job It doesn't matter I was very surprised why am i not seeing every single douchebag? Who's been talking about cyber for years Richard Clark And you know why Because Target spends 1.8 billion dollars a year in advertising and there is no way anyone was going to step up and make this big deal, even the Associated Press they didn't mention until four paragraphs in

12:30 You know, oh well yeah it's safe to shop at Target again because of course this is what target did not want Is anyone thinking that it was not safe to shop a target and quite honestly? We don't know if it's safe to shop at Target again because we have not had any confirmation Chase Bank has limit talk about your centralized systems Chase Bank has limited 2 million of their customers. In fact, let me play the clip because this is what happened The media started making Chase the bad guy instead of Target JP Morgan Chase on Saturday notified customers who used debit cards at target stores during the recent security breach that it was limiting use of the cards to cash withdrawals of $100 a day and purchases totaling $300 a day

13:16 The new limit affects roughly 2 million accounts or less than 10% of Chase debit card accounts, according to a bank spokeswoman. The bank said it was taking the action as a precaution and recognized that the move could not have happened at a more inconvenient time. Initial reports of Target's security breach said data may have been taken through devices at its counters Okay, a couple things. Again this is the only real thing that the media has been reporting big on it's all Chase! Oh Chase and Chase is an easy target because they're assholes you know? And there are... They have billions of dollars of fines so no one cares and no one's really gonna lose too much money on the consumer side of chase banking certainly not compared to Target. Target is the number two or number three largest advertiser in the United States and when I was thinking initially

14:04 Wow, you know these senators they don't care. The thing is the news outfits were not interested in getting them in because they don't want any attention on this and then I went back and looked at the timeline that day after they announced what was the big story? Okay some obscure online interview in GQ magazine with some duck dude Oh, that Dutch guy. And this explodes and this is completely meant to cover up Target! Somebody...and we have to see if- I don't care much for the gay folk. Somebody and i don't know if it's the crisis management company or if its- This interview was out John, this was no big deal. I read the interview who cares?

14:53 Yeah, the machine went nuts because everybody wins. First of all Target wins by not target. This is what we actually in the last newsletter I kind of yes exactly which is that you can't The media is so corrupted by advertising that you just can't get news from them anymore and they're diverted this is a diversion yeah well it is but I think it was a purposeful diversion I would say if If it wasn't, it was a heck of a coincidence. Even if you look at how the news media... because they have to do some real reporting and they'll say this was the largest theft of credit card data since the TGX companies! Now they could say TJ Maxx

15:40 Marshall's do any no the advertisers they say yeah exactly the TJX companies so they don't you know no links or anything just TGX companies. You don't have to know what stores those were formerly known as airs by the way this is So and and this is this is almost like a Christmas gift us because at the very end here At the very end of the year, we get to show you how it works. Here we have a true form of cyber terrorism! The American people at least 2 million people from Chase are now limited to $100 in cash withdrawal that is being terrorized and whether it's the Chinese or homegrown where is our fantastic apparatus? Where is all the cybersecurity? Where is my bank?!

16:29 who, if I travel to Europe and haven't called them my card will not work. However if there's three charges for X holidays Great Britain whatever that is for a total of $1,500 no problem. So all this cybersecurity stuff is bull crap! There's no triggers there's no monitoring and no one wants to touch it because of the advertising value This really shows you what's going on and how much bull crap... Bull crap is coming out of your governments

17:07 Well, that's a good catch and I would have to agree that there is the way they handled this was not as Because you could have you know if it was any Situation where he could have actually done so if you wanted to make hay You could have done that with the cyber terror. Oh this is the threat This is why we need more money and all the rest of us They did nothing So let me just put the two next to each other And where's Richard Clark target getting hacked an act of cyberterrorism performed in the United States by an unknown enemy carried out in such a sophisticated manner that it has investigators fooled or a southern reality television star makes an anti-gay racist remark in an interview and gentlemen's quarterly magazine which one is more newsworthy I think it's the gay story obviously and that plays right into

17:52 NBC's agenda because they are desperate to promote the Olympics coming up in just a couple of weeks. It is on NBC, so gay Phil Robertson... With Russia facing fierce criticism for its anti-gay propaganda laws the White House said it wanted its delegation to represent the best of America diversity, determination and teamwork. Enlisting openly gay athletes like two-time Olympic hockey medalist Caitlin Cahill. And tennis legend Billie Jean King who said she hoped the games would be a watershed moment for the universal acceptance of all people

18:32 In September, King encouraged American athletes to speak out telling USA Today sometimes I think we need a John Carlos moment referring to one of the two American sprinters who were kicked out at the 1968 Mexico City Olympics for protesting racial discrimination. Yeah in 1968 wow! We're really really hot on this. Before you go off on this other change I do have a couple comments about the Target thing so let's stop for a second You just kind of are going off. Oh, no well I was bringing it around because you go ahead please well I just want to mention a couple things when JC had a Apparently an issue But it was he killed his card because he got and I believe this is where the systemic from too He got a no charge Query for his card plus security code from the Ukraine

19:19 Which is where all this stuff comes from. I'm not buying anything, but I don't buy the Chinese. No no, I know people who have received Chinese charges whether it's the Chinese doing it or not they're on Chinese charges. Oh maybe there are some...I would suspect that Ukrainians got the cards and distributed them all over the world but apparently one of things people should note They some of them I didn't have this happen to me as far as I can tell but some of the targets have a card reader that sucks the card in and some of them have the swiper and You can't get the security code unless you have the sucker and the sucker We didn't know this until recently and JC says he's kind of confirmed it The sucker the one that sucks the card in takes a photo of both sides of the card which then takes

20:12 Steals the security code from your card, which all right? Yeah exactly because it's basically just scanning it as you throw as it goes through yeah Which is a which is a bad thing now that said I took advantage of this. I'm just gonna say this for people listen to the stream You might want to go to Target Right now. Yeah, I was there last night you walk in and there's a they immediately say don't forget 10% off the entire store yeah and so give you a little card to remind you so you buy more and I did and then when you go into the store to buy stuff everything is already like 50 percent off I mean they are giving the store away They have too because this is a huge

20:53 Issue and a lot of these cards were their own credit cards John the red target cards to plague yeah Yeah, I don't get those store cards ever again. They're just gets in trouble well I Just want to get that in so people are real you go in or listeners are gonna You could take advantage. I'm telling ya it's cheaper than goodwill right now Go in with cash people go in with and and I have to say that Mickey and I have talked about it again. It's a hassle, you know the card is cancelled You have to wait for a card and we have another bank account Oh let me guess it's with Chase of course So that's a real winner You know We got the kids over or we have to use you know we're taking him out to dinner this you know? We need to charge stuff And it's annoying now we have one card between the two of us

21:44 And you know, it's did you want to just start thinking about cash again? This is like cash. I like it too and but this is a real The conversation then no one is having the conversation because of Target It's because of advertising yes because of advertising and it's not the only group the two of us that Discussed at this much and in what's even more disgusting is of course everybody wins, A&E wins. The new season of Duck Dynasty starts on January 15th it couldn't be much better than that Who is co-owner of A&E?

22:26 Well, one of the big media companies. Viacom? ABC! Oh, ABC... They own half of it so here's ABC without any any of the usual full disclosure comments well the question is does he want to fix it is he willing to go to a deeper level and understanding and see why his remarks offended so many people and we can't even talk about on a morning show how truly vile and offensive his remarks were I know this this is and I read But this is again an example of them not telling you anything and then when you go look at the sources it's nothing, it's meaningless. Yeah he said I worked with... He said about black people, he says like I work with black people hand in hand on the farms growing up and then where they seemed that they were happier before the civil rights movement that's it! It was like ten sentences yeah That's vile, that's horrible

23:21 and Diane Sawyer, ABC World News Tonight but no one says oh by the way we own half of A&E and we hope it's a ratings bonanza. Well they do mention the ratings bonanza part not just to the gay community but for the African-American community you gotta take your voice down...not just in the gay community but to the african-american community too Lara they go much deeper than what we've talked about really outrageous statements that as he said ratings dynamo do you see bringing them back because this is such a big business for them and if so how do they do it? A business for you. But letting people know that they acknowledge how outrageous and offensive these comments are yeah don't worry I'm sure the work it out last minute miracle, miracle apology

24:06 And then the most disappointing of all of this, because everyone jumped on it. Everybody wins, everyone gets to talk about it It was the topic of conversation Every pundit gets a talk about it But Sarah Palin who I have defended She jumped in on this and she's standing next to them. And it uh, the big disappointment big Disappointment so she just that she's just a Big money who are like the rest of us? Yeah getting any attention ah that is there's a person who needs some consulting yeah Just handles her that was the wrong thing I've Defended her even Mickey said wow you usually defenders if not this time

24:47 Not this time, man. This is so stupid! This interview was up and it was only online and you know someone- some genius threw it into the machine and it blew up exactly what the machine needed at the right time And they kept feeding oh we have a video of him saying something gay whoa he said gay put the video on Our stream seems to be down by the way The minute we started explaining how it works... ...the stream goes Funny how that works Eh So it'll be interesting to see if this is what I feel is the most important. Okay, everyone's on vacation but when you come back congressmen and senators...I need to hear about this! I need to hear about how you know it's so important for us to have all of these cyber initiatives 600 billion dollars expected to be spent on this cybers crap But they can't but this is such a simple one

25:45 Yeah, and where's the phone calls of the guy who set this up? Nothing. It's nothing it's absolutely because it's all bullcrap They're just stealing our money yeah damnit Stealing our money so that was that was really stealing our money. Yeah really quite quite a revelation I'm just because I of course we knew about the duck dynasty thing there was promotion like but I hadn't figured it out until I saw The timeline oh my god of course Do whatever and then you know NBC smart, you know They they jump on the gay thing with did you see Saturday Night Live? Not that I watch it But I saw the clue they had one of the players at Billie Jean King with a huge NBC Olympic Sochi t-shirt Yeah And and everyone was loves it You know, it's like a Billie Jean Kings a big gay middle finger to Russia to Putin. You have the whole just playing it up Total bullcrap fingers are putting they wouldn't go at all

26:44 Well, the president had his little news conference there. By the way did you see the president on this news conference? He now has a visible facial tick have you noticed this I pick these things up because of course i'm full of them. You have visual facial ticks yourself. I've got all kinds of ticks but so I see this very quickly when someone has it he kind of...it's his right eye and he'll blink but it's really a tick Then the left side of his face looks like he's been beaten to I know it's like someone beat him He did not look good. You really you know we we know that Presidents usually look very very bad after they come out of them How does he have to keep him drugged up the whole time? They're in office It looks like he seriously like he was roofied, but yeah But the tick thing is concerning because that you know that's a

27:36 When you're a public speaker, it's very hard if you can't control it. You know It can get worse it can move to other areas it can get it can get really distracting disturbing and it exudes for a position like that non-confidence and people I think subliminally pick it up whether they notice it immediately or not but And and and here are not going to so she now just have now just got no time or whatever and then again Billie Jean King and then this is the ice hockey really So impressed. I got a note from Brian the gay crusader Mm-hmm he says he was on a Waiting for you know at the gate for a flight listening to the show when I threw up my Billie Jean King's Elton John with a bra He said he laughed so hard it's like everyone was looking at him is really And he's he's rewriting, he's doing this second or third draft of his above his report Which shows that this is not true? This is not a huge anti gay law

28:36 In Russia and and he's a journalist. He's actually quite famous for his writing, and if even having problems in his personal life Defending this the whole time as people just you know they just don't they just don't want to know They don't want it. They don't wanna that the truth Yeah, its elusive its The public at large, generally speaking is problematic when it comes to some of this stuff. Once they've been given the meme officially by the government and then the media backs them up and pounds it home It's almost impossible to dislodge it Very difficult.

29:16 We had after the show Thursday night one of our friends is She it was her birthday and her husband said oh, we're gonna do a little surprise party and have dinner And I okay you know I can handle that and it was also there were the O bots who would never have dinner with a Republican now yeah, and And this guy is extremely smart extreme really smart smart guy And they're talking about phones, like I don't have a phone anymore. Like why not? I said well because you know i just don't want to...I don't feel comfortable someone being able to know where I am at all times

29:56 And the seriousness, that's the noise they make. Well you know I'm pretty sure that eventually the public will stand up and they'll make this a stop and i'm like are you insane? Wow! And I said by the way this tracking is bullcrap They have not... maybe one instance of financing terrorism has it thwarted and he went off on me When those towers came down, I said okay stop right now. I'm not going to have this conversation with you. I'm going to send you a clip from Leahy two days ago on CNN. Saxby Chambliss this morning on Morning Joe said that there were 54 instances of terror threats that were directly prevented by the NSA program

30:48 Well, you know that is a question that I asked them when they had to appear in public and at 54 went down to 13 and they start more about it came down to one possibly tangentially involved. There you go one! You're going tell me... We've been harping on this on the show And i sent this link to him the video? No response No response. Because they can't believe it when this number is, is pun- and Leahy must be lying I'm sorry the... Leahy's the head of that committee! Yes, yes, I know but this is what we're up against well not really up against it because That's what no agenda listeners are up against. Exactly and did you hear what John Bolton had to say?

31:32 Bolton, one of my favorites. Yeah he's about Edward Snowden he threw in a nice little one which got some virality it has to be one of the dumbest things that I've seen in a long time to be speculating about this publicly even if they are contemplating some kind of deal with Snowden some kind of amnesty the last thing that people ought to be doing is speculating about it publicly it will inevitably make it a political football and it will enhance snowed his bargaining power what they are these or what why are they doing it then i think it's a big mistake uh... i don't i have no idea how many might be using snowden committed treason he ought to be convicted of that and any other swing from a tall oak trees all okay night just so we know

32:17 Hang him! Hang him, I say. Yeah hang him. I think the guillotine is better. It's... Chop off his head? I think that off with the head is much better. Hang him. But you'd be swinging from an oak tree. What kind of talk is that? That's not okay talk By the way, we always talk about the just going back to Target for a second about the difference between the American credit cards and the rest of the world almost but Europe where they have the PIN system. And so this forced me again to look into why don't we have that yet in the United States?

32:54 And there's a couple reasons. First of all, we have very very strong consumer protections in America when someone says you know you need a credit card because your debit card You're not protected It's not true you are but it may cost you $50 if your credit that's if your banks or dicks Yeah But that's a bad is it most banks don't charge you for that and which reminds me by the way Which is my favorite scam? Which is insurance If your credit card is lost or stolen, you'll have insurance. Yeah! And they want you to pay money? Pay insurance yeah! What idiot buys this stuff?! So we've got the uh...this credit which is not universal in fact with the system in Europe it is either YOU, the card holder or the vendor who

33:44 is liable for it, but pretty much no longer the bank. And so I'm saying why have we not upgraded? And i looked at the numbers and that's when I started to understand credit card debit card fraud in America is approximately 50 billion dollars a year...I'm sorry fees are fifty billion dollars a year. The fraud is about 4 to 5 billion. So we're talking a 10% on their fees, it's fraud that they have to deal with cost of doing business because if you want to upgrade everyone's card and these cards with the chip

34:23 they cost about five six dollars and you have to outfit everybody with terminals and it will eventually probably get there that cost of that is in excess is a multiple of the five billion dollars. They really don't care, it's a write-off for them they really don't care and is it more secure? Now the only reason why it's somewhat more secure is because it's harder for these have have to get into a new business of creating, you know the new kinds of cards with the chip and this it still has the magnetic stripe on it so yeah It's all vulnerable. The banks have no interest in upgrading your security right off they don't care what's five billion dollars? What's nine or ten percent

35:02 There's nothing. No, no it's just a numbers game and there's also the point when they first came out with the smart card the chip card that chipped card yeah is it was the patent was owned by some French guy and the banks didn't want to pay a nickel we don't have any royalties screw it and so they said we can charge 18% interest on our cards and we don't screw that guy and so they never got the cart did this I think it's now public domain but until recently they didn't want to even deal with it because it wasn't gonna cost them a nickel or something you know it's too much No, the bank these guys know what they're doing. Yeah they do and and they don't care And guess who gets penalized you stupid schlub? You can't take your money $100 cash that's it Christmas hey Merry Christmas a hundred dollars in cash this is this is If Ted Kaczynski had a blog he'd be writing up a storm right now

35:57 The guy, did he die in prison? No! He didn't die in prison. Why doesn't somebody give him a blog? He'd probably be very interesting blogger You know, he missed the whole revolution. He's been in prison during the whole... If he had had if he had had a blog back then he wouldn't have to blow people up just to get his manifesto published Yeah, it was self-published on them on the internets Yeah and people you know and probably more people would have read it front page anyone who was alive at that time Did you ever read the manifesto now not really I've read it. You're not everyone, darling! Well thank you... Honey? I don't have a retort for the darling thing. Just say honey. The stream is completely hosed now. Oh there we go and looks like we got no stream yeah i think we're kind of back and of course the um Now I have some thoughts on this as well Of course this is what you have said from day one And we have held our thesis about this NSA spying business Here's a quick little headline from the BBC about it

36:57 The documents are said to show over a thousand names of targets from 60 countries, including Israel's Prime Minister. They're also said to be terrorists but more surprisingly also on the list are a senior member at the European Union Vice President of the Commission Joachim Almunier who deals with economic competition issues humanitarian organizations like the UN Children's Charity UNICEF and French medical charity Médecins du Monde Companies like French oil giant Total and German government buildings in Berlin and overseas. We'd already heard about the Americans targeting German Chancellor Angela Merkel's phone, that caused outrage but the allegation that Britain may also have been spying on allies may cause further problems

37:42 A European Commission spokesperson said they would raise the allegations with the US and UK, and said if true they were unacceptable and deserved the strongest condemnation. This is not the type of behavior that we expect from strategic partners let alone from our own member states," they said. Now this seems like a lot of spying on French, the Médecins du Monde which is not The Doctors Without Borders in fact I looked that up it's a splinter group guy who left a co-founder who left doctors without borders to start this thing and God knows it's an NGO, And it's funded by millions of governments. I think they're highly suspect as well But doesn't matter you know this is business intelligence This is economic spying that we are doing and when you look at the fact that we spied on the antitrust Commissioner or the I think the assistant commissioner

38:37 the EU who directly is involved in the process, procedure with Google whether they will be fined under anti-competitive rules in the EU much as Microsoft was fined for billions. He's being spied on? Oh wow how convenient! Come on! This is... all these companies who go crying to President Obama are all in on it. They're all spying, they're spying for their own good, for their own information. Surely the Commissioner of the EU can't be a terrorist? I mean is he suspected of terrorism and where when are we going to figure out that this is

39:25 What is the word I'm looking for? Espionage. Yes, thank you! It's espionage. It's pure and simple espionage. Yeah, blackmail. It's like Spectre. Sounds like one of those operations that's in a James Bond movie. Yeah completely. Extortion, espionage, blackmail... You know the whole nine yards everything yes what it's so obvious what else would you set up a system like that for well yeah but it's Well I have a couple thoughts first of all we also found out that the NSA had a 10 million dollar contract with RSA, security firm RSA. Yeah apparently to put in the back door into standard encryption uh now did you see any documents about this or just the claim? I'm sure they have some documents leaked by whistleblower Edward J Snowden

40:14 I couldn't find any docs. No, it's been going around the net that they're in bed with each other and apparently all these encryption standard operations because JC Buskill Jr now since he works in the industry They're kicking out all the NSA guys from all these closed committees that deal with encryption. They have to! It's a huge issue now, and by the way they've been disinvited from all future Black Hats where they've always been allowed to show up and hang out and do the rest. No, now they're all being kicked out of it so this is what a great job you know Kaiser Alexander's done he's gotten managed to get everybody kicked out of all these things that they need to be in and there now they can have to go into the back door by

41:04 buying, bribing you know other members. Say would you could just make a recording for us and then we'll be good? You put a microphone under that table it was yeah will give you 10 grand right um there's a problem it's a huge problem because it is our uh it is our industrial espionage arm and there was benefits to our big companies the director of national intelligence they have that tumblr website So they release a whole bunch of documents. I have to give it to Charlie Savage and David E Sanger on this one from the New York Times, but they immediately reported on it... Let me just read this from the New York Times. The Obama administration moved late Friday to prevent a federal judge in California from ruling on the constitutionality of warrantless surveillance programs authorized during the Bush administration

41:52 telling a court that recent disclosures about the NSA spying were not enough to undermine its claim that litigating the case would jeopardize state secrets. In a set of filings, and these are the documents that were disclosed although not disclosed with this description on the DNI Tumblr website I saw a lot of people overlooked it but not The Times and i think that's good Two long-running cases in the Northern District of California, the government acknowledged for the first time that the NSA started systematically collecting data about Americans' emails and phone calls in 2001. On and on, the government said despite recent leaks by Edward J Snowden, former NSA contractor... The scope of surveillance and data collection programs put into place after September 11th attacks, sensitive secrets remained at risk in any courtroom discussions of their details." Long story short

42:41 What the White House, what the administration is attempting to do is tell the court you cannot even hear these cases because the information that would be revealed Would put the country at risk of I don't know Cyber terrorists. Oh, I'm sorry They're already here and they assert that state secrets privilege is in play here and that these cases cannot even go to court And that we, you know... Here it is. Mr. Clapper suggested the program was one of many needed to continue Al-Qaeda blah blah blah He argued that revealing additional details including whom it targets or how companies like AT&T and Verizon have given the NSA access to its equipment and data would be harmful Quote Disclosing are confirming further details about these activities could seriously undermine an important tool Metadata collection and analysis for tracking possible terrorist plots he wrote

43:37 and could reveal methodology. You need metadata to find the bad books! That's right, the bad books... very funny. So that was on Friday. They were tipped off by the CIA to look there there was no doubt about that so here is my thinking now This, we're very very occupied and a couple of people have been I've been emailing our producers are very helpful for the nine emails that are totally useless. And I love when people just send a link to a bill. Oh, thanks got any context for me or should i just read this? No it's only a couple hundred pages. Yeah oh yeah this is give me a subject line tell me what this is about don't make it too long and when I reply and say thanks that is not an invitation for you to open up the whole thing. I'm not going to reply again probably um let's look at let's look at the CIA before he was kicked out not long before he was kicked out CIA director

44:45 David H. Petraeus made some interesting comments and of course there's no video or audio of it but I do have a transcript from CIA.gov this is March 1st 2012 and this is his speech at In-Q-Tel And for those, we've talked a lot and In-Q-Tel is kind of at this point if you say in-q-tel probably my friends from the dinner would go oh there he goes again conspiracy theorist. Hey that's a new guy! Yeah he has a lisp this guy. Conspiracy Theorists! Maybe I should just read a little bit of this for you and of course this is in the show notes

45:36 As you all know, exploiting the intelligence opportunities which is an easier subject to discuss in an unclassified setting than the counterintelligence challenges will require a new class of in-place and remote sensors that operate across the electromagnetic spectrum. Moreover these sensors will be increasingly interconnected The current... this is David Petraeus talking in public with these at this at the CEO conference of In-Q-Tel And we'll talk about what In-Q-Tel is in a minute The current Internet of PCs will move, of course, towards an Internet of Things. Remember this? We've talked about this Internet of Things meme was running around? Of devices of all types 50 to 100 billion of which will be connected to the internet by 2020

46:20 As you know, whereas the machines in the 19th century learned to do and those in the 20th century learned to think at a rudimentary level. In the 21st century they are learning to perceive, to actually sense and respond. Key applications developed by our In-Q-Tel investment companies are focused on technologies that are driving the Internet of Things These includes item identification or devices engaged in tagging, sensors and wireless sensor networks, devices that indeed sense and respond. Embedded systems those that think an evaluate and finally nanotechnology allowing these devices to be small enough to function virtually anywhere items of interest which could be your car you

47:03 will be located, identified monitored and remotely controlled through technology such as radio frequency identification that's RFID sensor networks tiny embedded servers and energy harvesters all connected to the next generation internet using abundant low cost and high power computing. The latter now going to cloud computing in many areas greater and greater supercomputing and ultimately heading to quantum computing we are looking at Things that were set up 10 20 30 50 years ago and me and this NSA Meanwhile, the CIA is investing completely under everybody's radar hidden in plain sight with Inc you tell their Nonprofit venture capital company and they are building the true long. It's only six more years until we're at 2020

47:53 And everyone's buying new machines by then. You're gonna have your new washing machine, you have your new phone and that is... He's doing a wash! What is he doing now? He's doing a wash. Spin cycle. That is the true... Get the sniper ready. We are being distracted from what is really going on and when IPv6 fully rolls out when every RFID sensor has its own IP address. This is where it's going, this is what it's really all about and it's run by the CIA! The same guys who I don't know kill people with drones? These are the a-holes and run by civilians who were picked and managed you know it's not the defense department you get your own Obama's got his guy in he thinks he's this guy... This is beautiful no wonder let's do some more

48:49 Let's have more focus on Google. Who gives a crap? We'll sprinkle some nano dust on you to track you." Oh, there is that! Well it is all being promoted by the shows NCIS and NCIS especially, NCIS LA as the way its going to be and they are saving us from all these terrorists which are blowing stuff up left and right I mean just the other day ten years ago something blew So on the board of trustees of In-Q-Tel, we should notice people like James Barksdale. Yeah he's that Netscape guy right? Netscape guy used to be I'm looking at the list and Vint Cerf used to be on here and he's not in he's the IP right now. He's now Google is with the NSA

49:36 Okay, so can't you can be with both? Yeah, well Ted Schlein your buddy a partner at Kleiner Perkins. Oh yeah one of the guys It's just a bunch of these Silicon Valley types and they have an office down here somewhere Have you looked at their at the companies they're invested in to the way this work is Incutel as a non-profit venture capital They don't need to make any money no monies made from Afghanistan heroin Yes, no reason for from the well these to be probably important sales if you just look at it though And they've been doing this since 1997 or 98 I think they have a lot of cloud stuff. Well turning ink into action

50:14 bio-matrica. You know these companies are all under the radar operations, Miserware, what the hell is Miserware? Digital reasoning, Gainspan, Genia Photonics, Huddle, Hytrust, iMove imprint energy, Lime Microsystems, Lucidworks and you click on these things A lot of optics as well, a lot of optics. That's because of the satellites yeah. Planeteer of course that never got into legs that planeteer who made it. Here is good example, the objects went right to the end zspace.com formerly known as Infinite Z which was I think a DJ in the 50s is a leading edge technology provider that enables natural interaction with virtual holographic 3D imagery

51:09 Let's see weather hello. Yeah, how about weather analytics delivers global climate intelligence? We have wise spry What is why Sprite do it's got to be wife fabulous RF semiconductor company designs and manufacturers RFC moss integrated circuits and components for leading manufacturers of mobile phones laptops wireless data communications products Hello That's your little spy in your box system on a chip should be spy on its yes by on a chip So just you know, just read through this and laugh. And what's this owl thing? Red Owl Analytics. Oh boy whenever you got an owl you gotta think Illuminati. There is a walleye another next generation handheld portable imaging systems so if anybody has any imaging ideas you can get some money. Totally even if you have half an idea yeah PIXIM digital pixel pelican imaging open span what does OpenSpan that sounds good

52:03 Right desktop automation, desktop analytics solution improve home drive revenue. Oh boy how'd that one sneak in? There's no spying. What does that one say? Desktop analytics I guess to spy on employees probably. Could be so this is but when you really look at it in context CIA versus NSA and FBI too I think the FBI is more on the CIA side. No, I think the FBI's more on... no chance there totally NSA. I think they're playing a double game John Yeah but they show up at all the meetings that second-in-command guy he's always there with his NSA buddy Alexander Constantly. You're right you're right But if you look at the CIA who was really running? Brennan right? John O Brennan running the show yeah don't think they like him

52:54 But the president feels comfortable enough with him. And remember that they bring the kill list of the president every Tuesday, I haven't forgotten this! Yes, coincidentally it's the same as Patch Tuesday for Microsoft. There is no coincidence there. Coincidence? I think not!! At the end of the year here we have, so of course these companies they're all corrupt. Silicon Valley they've been playing along with the NSA probably thinking it was cool. You know Facebook has 50 people... Oh everybody wants to be a spy? Google released their Zeitgeist 2013 top searches unbelievable the name Ed Snowden doesn't show up in any of Google's lists of 2013 searches it's no one cares I guess yeah how is that possible? No one cares right. Yeah, I'll believe that you think they rigged this these results really you think there's gambling yeah now

54:05 Let's see what else do we have here. Of course, we now have a name for Pierre Ominiminominominicar and the Poitras Green... Greenraff? That's called First Look Media! That's the dumb name. And how crazy is it by the way that PandoDaily seems to be the only the only quasi-journalistic outfit calling these guys on except that one guy this is all come those guys they brought over from not safe for work yeah that's that's that's pretty incredible guy that they brought over and he and he's doing all this stuff that they would have never done it still doing it I'm impressed

54:51 I'd pee on that whole operation, but the stuff they're doing there is pretty bold. Of course they'll close soon. I'm sure it will be the end of them! But it's a valid effort. So yeah first look and then we have Jay Rosen Isn't he a professor? Professor Jay Rosen. Did he quit? No, he's on hiatus. He just became a professor and do this too? No, he is on hiatus for six months while he advises the company Oh okay great And he published the press release about first look Right so Jay Rosen has become a PR guy Yes Okay He literally in fact here it is from his Press Think blog I will read to you Yeah of course he is a PR guy

55:37 Press think org and the title of this blog post is a first look at new co-structure today Pierre Omidyar announced some details about how his new venture in news will be organized my summary and Explanation first the official release which he probably wrote. I'm sure and then so a couple things we learned 50 million dollars He is his first infusion of 50 million dollars in capital to fuel operations being established on both coasts. This reads like a Silicon Valley

56:15 Press release listen to this opening Honolulu the news organization Organization created by Pierre Omidyar formerly dubbed nuko has taken another step forward with an infusion of 50 million dollars in capital to fuel operations being established on both coasts Fuel yeah, you'll Fun, fun would be a proper word. Omidyar's first capital outlay represents 20% of his initial commitment to the media venture. First Look Media will publish robust coverage of politics government sports entertainment and lifestyle arts and culture business technology and investigative news

56:56 So the way they're doing it is First Look Media, I have to do the voice again. First Look Media will be made up of several entities including a company established to develop new media technology and a separate non-profit journalism organization so the way it works is they're going to have this technology company that's the one that is for profit and any profit that makes will fund the nonprofit Wow! This is really innovative Wow. Yeah, that's pretty bad and then to say what is their technology? It's great technology but it'll be the way this is reminding me what is with these guys so now all of a sudden Bill Gates and the Gates Foundation are funding private prisons yeah that's pretty good isn't it it's ridiculous how does that even fit into the scheme of things you know I remember there was this guy why isn't that on the PBS NewsHour

57:54 It seems somebody should bring it up. Yeah, oh wait a minute. It was brought up in Mother Jones Isn't funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation? I'm sorry. Oh Kyle. I see wait a minute your way You're making the connection here Let me see if I get this straight you're making the connection that Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation funds so much PBS content that heaven forbid anybody actually writes something about the foundation that's a negative like them funding and you know dropping millions and millions of dollars into more not just one but a couple of private prison operations which have notorious reputations by the way. Yes, the GEO group

58:39 The GEO, didn't they have prisons where they were beating children? Yeah or something. They just had a beat down every so often yeah and there was but there was a... There was feces on the wall everywhere So they keep them happy Locked emergency exits excessive use of pepper spray on minors Yeah that's your Bill Gates everybody! The genius who is saving the poor black children in Africa by testing vaccines on them? No, to me it was just a matter of time. Bill who I know is a guy who makes money He's not a coder, he is a guy who makes money. He has got one goal in mind make money Has he always been that way? Has he always just been about making money? Is that always his thing? I like to tell when he was kid One of the notorious little things when i think it was still in high school or grammar school He cornered the market on the McGovern-Eagleton campaign buttons

59:37 Eagleton was the original vice presidential choice for George McGovern and the Republicans pulled a quick one and got they got him to take Eagleton, Thomas I think Thomas Eagleton as the vice presidential choice. And then soon as he was picked word got out that he had been subject to what do you call when you put electrodes on your brain? Electroshock therapy. Oh really! They passed him a few times because apparently he's nuts so but they'd already printed all these buttons Gates bought them all before the word got out and before the buttons were taken back. And then he said they sold them to collectors I mean this guy... He has no scruples! Well, I thought that was a great idea most of his ideas are sound yeah and i just knew when he started The Gates Foundation that there's at some point

1:00:24 He, because he's into making money had to make some investments into some sleazy operations and there it is. Well I mean he's in oil and gas you know all kinds of things yeah this is very minor it's not a lot of money but it really shows you where what what's going on And the apologists for Bill & Melinda Gates were well the foundation needs to make money to do good That's bullcrap! It is the largest funded foundation in the history of foundations. They don't need to make any money, the idea was not to make money it was to give money away. Yeah it's the Mac Daddy of Money Unbelievable How anyone could be an apologist after hearing this thing about prisons is beyond me but you know Well in that case thank you for your courage and In The Morning To You John C. Dvorak

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1:18:14 This news is funny. We should relist our iTunes category as comedy and see if they put us in there. We're closer to a comedy show than any sort of serious news show I mean we do serious news analysis but we do it with humor otherwise it would make you too depressed! A little bookmark I'm gonna give you, we need to talk about Jon Stewart Oh the Jon Stewart yeah I want to talk about that. Yeah, yeah, but I'm bookmarking it so we can forget it I thank them for the courage blah blah laugh several times a show which a lot of people apparently do including people in line Please send a karma shot to warm me as I journey into the dark and foreboding lands of New Hampshire for the holidays Peter see you know what? Thank you very much. Here's your karma good luck with the journey You've got karma thank you for your support of the work and the best podcast in the universe all

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1:25:18 And, you know when you... it's so creative to be... You know last night it was like 11.15 I'm like what? I'm missing something and then I see the combo between the Duck Dynasty and the Target thing. I get really excited! I do, look at this. To me it's an incredibly creative...I love the process and i'm very happy that I am not bummed out about life because I get to talk about for five six hours a week and get out of my system Well, yeah and I hope that people out there have the same most of you know that we got a new listener that wrote in he Said you know how you bitched about? The duck dynasty thing and then we didn't bring it up when it was just he actually he actually got me going on. I'm like wait a minute I'm missing something because I sent to note back saying You know generally speaking We don't talk about just regular PR stunts done by Hollywood cuz they we he says this is a PR stunt

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1:27:00 It's nice how it works and thank you all very much for your courage and for your support of the best podcast in the universe. No, I'm sorry. I said we have no advertising no advertiser org slash and a We do have a PR mention from Dame Jennifer who was now in Charleston South Carolina She's organizing a meetup And she has a website NA Charleston.com go to na charleston.com she has a website to set up and know agenda community and Meetup community I think in the meetups are small, but I'm telling you even if you get three or four people together They're dynamite This is a good group to have a meeting with because you have like-minded People and it turns out they're very diverse we don't have

1:27:48 It's not like everybody is in the military. We have people in the military, we have truck drivers, we have students, lots of students, high school kids which probably won't go to meetups because it's old folks... we have retirees. Lots of young folks showed up at meetups that I've been too It's a real interesting cross-section of it, which is unusual because the only thing they have in common is pretty much a desire for truth telling. Exactly. Okay well we gotta go to the start so check that out and of course continue to propagate the formula! Our formula is this... We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Merry Christmas, slave. Shut up, slave. Thank you Lizzie

1:28:48 Lizzy gave us a Merry Christmas slaves. Yeah, you got another one here Well actually though here's one yeah, but here's one for everybody That's Lizzie with her and she looks all sweet But you know she's the devil inside so I was following a couple things we had said a couple of clips I wanted to or a couple of things I wanted to read from the last show and and there was two articles, I want to talk a little bit for a minute about Kim Jong-un. Yes. Because he's been in the news again and it's like not every...

1:29:30 Even PBS is going out of their way to slam this guy with some really crazy reporting on him. And I want to read, uh...I want a place up few clips and i wanna read at least one comment that was left on the Washington Post site because the Washington Post and Reuters had two different profiles for the guy. The Washington Post which is in arm of the government. Full disclosure it's an arm of the government because Amazon runs the CIAs infrastructure and Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post. So they went on a tirade about how they did a survey, not naming one person of people that were in school with him in Switzerland and he was a maniac! You know he's a crazy crazy kid and he was dangerous

1:30:18 And then the Reuters had a, and the Reuters won which I sent you last for the last show. I sent at least two... Yeah i'll move them forward to this uh yeah we have it's the same story same week two different takes on The Outcome. The other take was he was a great guy they don't know what they're talking about everybody thought he was cool and I have one that in fact I'll read this Now I might as well read this. This was in the Washington Post comments and i thought it was an interesting comment he says there were a couple of YouTube videos, I don't know if they're still up which Kim Jong-un's classmates talked about the guy as I recall no one had a bad thing to say about him He was studious outgoing polite and respectful and liked to ski that was about it his oldest brother Kim Jong Nam was out of control son by the way I believe this was written It was in The Washington Post it was written by somebody who put here for a reason

1:31:05 Kim Jong Nam, hi... okay sorry. Kim Jong Nam was the out-of-control son being groomed for the top spot but Kim Jong Il wasn't going to leave the country to a party animal. Kim Jong Nam hightailed it out of the DPRK and spent a lot of time at the gaming tables of Macau. Oh I didn't even know he had a brother! I didn't either. Jang Song, well i think he had an older brother in the military too is a different one. I think he's got two brothers. Jang Song Thaek was supporting him probably with the idea of putting him in charge that's the guy...

1:31:44 Plotters the last I heard Kim Jong Nam is them on the run from several EP RK hit teams Yeah, of course Jim Jung-un's older brother is Kim jong chul and it seems that to work closely together He's again in military kim jung un's half sister. Kim sool song is also very close to Kim jong un This is only my opinion, but all three siblings have spent a few years outside the DPRK and have seen how the world actually works. Kim Jong-un had to fight fire with fire but I honestly think these three went to drag the DPRK kicking and screaming into the new century. Kim Jong Un keeps talking about it."

1:32:28 That's what holds them together. I thought this was highly significant that Unn did not speak at the ceremony of the two-year anniversary of his father's death, he remained seated. The DPRK is his country now, the ancient regime is dead and gone if you aren't part of the solution it must be part of the problem." That was the end of that little note so that is falling on deaf ears the actual reality of this situation and the Reuters report also brought something up interesting And which I'll talk about after we go through these clips, so let's start with Kim Jong-un Let's try Margaret Warner and the Margaret no one one erratic. Let's start with their part 1 erratic

1:33:12 This week North Korea's supreme leader Kim Jong-un embarked on his third year as head of the isolated kingdom after a week that has raised questions about his intentions and his country stability. Today Joint Chief Chairman General Martin Dempsey commenting on Kim's execution of his high ranking uncle said these kind of internal actions by dictators are often a precursor to provocation Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel called it concerning to everyone. Tonight, senior foreign affairs correspondent Margaret Warner takes a closer look at the erratic 30-year old. Okay okay so I'm listening to this and the key word here is erratic yeah of course okay now what makes him erratic? Well if you listen to part two it brings up another issue and then i'm going to ask you the question

1:34:01 Okay, part two is mystery. Is that the one yes? Okay NBA Hall of Famer Dennis Rodman returned to Pyongyang today to renew what he calls his basketball diplomacy and his curious friendship with Kim Jong-un North Korea's young leader for the past two years who remains a mystery to the outside world You just you give me this sign anytime you want me to bring up the uncle Don stuff. He just let me know Okay, so I Will probably you'll probably bring it up when you feel it. It's necessary now let's get this straight Let's listen to this report he's erratic on the one hand but he's a curious relationship with Dennis Rodman. Well, the curious relationship I'll explain but how can he be both erratic if he's a mystery? If he's a mystery you don't know what he's like right is that what the word mystery means yes correct so how can you make this assumption he's erratic if he's a mystery So I found this to be just crap reporting

1:35:00 So let's go on with Margaret Warner. She goes on and this is they have a she kind of makes more assumptions about this guy, and then they play up clip which unfortunately you can't see but it's a raving maniac who apparently is doing the newscast in North Korea jumping up and down But yet to see him It's just hilarious, but let's play that this clip While much is not known about Kim Jong-un after these two years, two trends in his leadership appear clear and worrying. The internal instability revealed by the way Kim's uncle was purged and executed And North Korea's ongoing buildup of a nuclear weapons and missile arsenal that could threaten the world

1:35:40 On the day Jang was killed, a state TV newscaster recited a litany of shocking charges against him. The accused Jang committed hideous crimes such as attempting to overthrow the state by all sorts of sabotages and despicable methods with a wild ambition to grab the supreme power of our party and state What is the difference between this outrageous newscast and John Bolton saying we should hang Edward Snowden from an oak tree? I mean, there's no difference. In fact our guy is ruthless! I know it's ridiculous so let's listen to

1:36:16 One two there's two more these are all short clips. I made it like it I like it Kim Jong-un with now John Kerry because he's like the state guy He has to say something he doesn't know anything either, and he's a little I think annoyed by the thing that's going on with Dennis Rodman Kim's summary dispatch of his high-ranking relative perplexed and disturbed foreign governments and longtime observers. Secretary of State Kerry spoke on ABC last Sunday. It tells us a lot about, first of all how ruthless and reckless he is. He is spontaneous erratic still worried about his place in the power structure

1:36:57 and maneuvering to eliminate any potential adversary or competitor. Alright, now I get to interrupt. So my uncle... you can look him up Donald P Gregg G-R-E-G-G He's in the Wikipedia. He is, and he was the ambassador to South Korea and he was a civilian in the Pentagon It's all on the Wikipedia what his background is. It's all in the Wikipedia! He is often invited back to Korea And they revere him because he's now 83-84 and age is respected and held in high regard

1:37:35 And he, until recently I'd say... Until this administration really. He was all even though he hated George W Bush Literally hated George W Bush He would Act as a go-between he ran the Korea Society I'm sure it was an agency front in New York City now. He's did the chairman emeritus of this society? He went to South Korea, uh Think about a year and a half ago now not even maybe a year ago the first time just right after the first time Dennis Rodman went to North Korea and he also met with the North Koreans because he has a history with them as well, and he went on CNN with With the anti-constitutionalist Deepak. What's his name? Not deepak a douchebag As our Azaria, yeah Zero whatever that guy that guy Rajiv is Rajeev Azaria Something

1:38:31 And and that was the last time he was on television because he said look the North Koreans they don't want armistice They just want to be seen as a full country. They don't want war they all day with you know, They just don't wanna have some guys say they don't want to blow anybody up They just don't want to be treated as little babies in this armistice This is they don't want that and he said that Dennis Rodman He agrees more with Dennis Robin than anybody And Dennis Rodman, the reason he is here is for the Big Bang in Pyongyang. Have you heard of this? Well actually I'm headed there. Okay then I'll stop.

1:39:14 So let's go on with it. There is for one thing there is a defector, this is bad reporting I'm going to continue with the just kind of skewed report on PBS you know the national treasure Farid Zakaria by the way Farid Zakaria Rajiv Zanaria That was geez something like that Guy's a douche I mean that's all he can't remember his name So this is Kim Jong-un, so they found some defector some army defector or somebody I don't know the guy was a you know left the country. This would be this Ed Snow or the Ed Snowden kind of character that left the country they put him on one of these machines and they let him talk and he bitches and moans about it but there's no counter side to any of this story. This is a complete

1:40:01 this is a hit piece on this Eun guy. It's ridiculous, but play the Kim Jong-un, the defector speaks. There is an incredible admission of infighting in the country and factionalism which has been completely unheard of in North Korea that are two incredible admissions for a country that tries to keep a very public profile of them having everything under control Kim's ostensible enemies weren't named, but this former North Korean military intelligence and Workers' Party official who defected to South Korea just before Kim Jong-un came to power offered some insights. We agreed to conceal his identity and name

1:40:44 Military officers generally were outraged that they had to accept Kim Jong-un as the new leader. Do they think the military is all stupid? Discontent among the military elites began soon after Kim Jong Il demanded we transfer our allegiance to his son The feeling of betrayal turned into anger. Military and party officials scorned Kim for his inexperience, the defector said, and his rudeness to subordinates His father had more confidence and so was more relaxed because he earned the power but Kim Jong-un did not have a chance to learn and prepare for leadership This is why Kim Jong-Un heavily relies on intelligence officers to control and spy on his people So to suppress dissent

1:41:28 Can I say something? Yeah. All right, so take your mind out for a second that here's the crazy leader of North Korea who put his uncle at the firing squad and killed him. Crazy guy! It is nut job now think about our president who sends unmanned airplanes to kill Americans like I don't know wasn't there some guy and his 16 year old kid? To kill them! Yeah, bitch. Cafe. To kill them and he jokes about it. I have two words for you predator drones this is who's the crazy who's the crazy and he likes basketball too

1:42:16 Well, so we go to that aspect and there's a... now this is not reported. You probably have heard it but maybe some other listeners have but generally speaking this is the only way we're dealing with this Kim Jong-un character in the mainstream media and so I finally found you know The Reuters report on him had two interesting things. It says he really, really liked basketball. Liked it a lot which is the reason that Rodman's over there and his main team that he rooted for when he was in Switzerland was the Chicago Bulls. Dennis Rodman played for the Chicago Bulls

1:42:52 Now what's Rodman doing there again? You have to go to China, the CCTV report and you barely understand this guy but replay the CCTV report on what North Korea is up to with Rodman. An agreement was reached between Seoul and Beijing earlier this month after South Korean President Park Geun-hye made the offer as a humanitarian gesture during her visit to China in June Still on the Korean Peninsula, former NBA star Dennis Rodman has held tryouts for a DPRK team to face a dozen NBA veterans in an exhibition game to mark the birthday of Kim Jong-un, the DPRK's top leader. And it's billed as... It's a birthday party! It's The Big Bang in Pyongyang Yeah and this is not being reported? It's sponsored by Paddy Power

1:43:46 The Irish betting outfit and it is the Paddy Power Dennis Rodman basketball invitational event. You can buy tickets for the tour, you can have it to six and a half thousand euros per person all included return flight on air courio You get the North Korean visa, hotel accommodations. Yeah! The whole thing is bonanza it's for his birthday It's sponsored by a bedding outfit and it even has a Vegas name the Big Bang in Pyongyang And I... Where is this reported? Here and I would add to that now because I didn't know the Chicago Bulls but now that I think about it

1:44:35 Is it feasible to anyone and could anyone maybe Rolf Blitzer could make the connection? Maybe Kim Jong-un is trying to say, hey I like basketball. I like the Bulls President Obama you like basketball maybe we could find some common ground and he likes the Bulls yes maybe we could find a team maybe who could find some common ground there and does the president not even see this can the president not say hey there's an opening doesn't there's a reason for me to open discussions with the erratic mysterious leader of the DPRK

1:45:14 Because we have a common love for the Chicago Bulls? No, no that would be too good. I think-I think that's uh...that should be seriously considered! I see-I think so too I think this guy's the, this is the opportunity. He's opening it up! And all crap from that phony baloney guy who was in South Korea that was the ex-whatever military intelligence guy saying that Kim Jong Il... You remember Kim Jong il when he first showed up? Yeah. He had a weird haircut and they had that front page of The Economist saying hello earthlings. That crazy coverage, fantastic

1:45:55 The guy was considered a complete lunatic, but he was okay. But this new kid who's down to earth is not? He's erratic! It was an insult of the military. Yeah. Bullcrap! This is...this is a hit piece by PBS and I'm really surprised to see it-of all people-the NewsHour on PBS doing a hit piece Oh really you're surprised? I am surprised Well who pays for that News Hour on PBS Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. You mean the people who finance abusive prisons? For-profit abusive prisons, and you're surprised? I'm just saying... All right let me tell you this although i am going to be on your side that the solution and the concept that she created is

1:46:49 Something to be discussed and is not that important in the overall scheme of things. Ayn Rand and Atlas Shrugged accurately described where we are right now with the insane government, which is what she saw and why she wrote about it in her youth in Russia So forget all the, the, the Galt's Gulch and who is John Galt and the quitting. I'm okay with objectivism we can all talk about that another time but the description of what is happening right down to the rail is exactly what she was warning the United States about. Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand And I think you can even agree on that

1:47:32 What's funny is that, that's not the message that is being picked up from her by the Silicon Valley folks. They're idiots! They're morons! That you pounded earlier in the show they just see it as oh we should make more money no no great is good they should get they should all quit that would be a good start I'm all for it. If their take away is, oh we'll just quit and then you won't have Gmail! Fine! Get out! Apple too! Tim Collins? Steve Cook whatever his name is... I like saying Tim Collins It's a bad cocktail. It's a Tom Collins gone left

1:48:19 He's compromised. He's compromised Apple, he's compromised the entire operation there is no other reason for him to sit in that suck up meeting at least Jobs before he died had that dinner and got all huffy about it remember that? Remember that sorry Zuckerberg didn't even show up No he sent us Sheryl Lean in. Yeah, lean in. Lean forward whatever yeah wow okay well that's it that was a good little wrap up there I like that a lot. I think we at least are on top of this

1:49:07 and we should visit the country. I think there's a lot, there's something going on in this like that here's another thing i was thinking about when I put this together where is the news media interviewing Dennis Rodman? How come there's not a microphone in his face? How come CBS took this crazy guy that's bitching and moaning, this unknown guy we can't say his name but they never put a microphone... And you don't think Dennis Rodman doesn't like to have a microphone in his face. He is media whore! Well he does have an exclusive with Vice who are doing yet another documentary so there may be some issue there But here's how the mainstream media... It's publicity for Vice if he talks Oh I agree

1:49:51 But here's how the mainstream media, I've seen this at least three times. You get a pundit on and then and i even saw a woman from ESPN one of those ESPN reporters those women are hot! And they talk well you know what they only know about sports don't know anything else but okay...and here's how it goes Well what do you think is going on in Dennis Rodman's mind? And then the answer is if I knew what was going on in Dennis Rodman's mind I'd be in an institution Every single one of them. That's it that's that's the this is a right? That's it That's the coverage right there, and that's exactly right yeah Little did he came out from the White House kind of in the region will stay in the in the Eurasian region Memorandum for the Secretary of State would be that would be John Kerry who you aptly titled the state guy and to these secretary of energy

1:50:52 Dear folks, doesn't say that. I have considered the proposed agreement for cooperation between the American Institute in Taiwan and the NAPAE Economic and Cultural Representative Office of United States concerning peaceful uses of nuclear energy along with views recommendations and statements of the interest agencies. I've determined that the performance of the agreement will promote and will not constitute an unreasonable risk to the common defense security So we're now going to go enter into a nuclear relationship with Taiwan, China's most hated enemy. It's not at all obvious... Well what can I say?

1:51:37 We're the provocateurs. Yes, well nothing other than... How about those cool uh that cool photographic and videographic evidence of the moon landing from China huh? You're still on that! Because yes I am still on that because even now even people who are angry at me for even suggesting that we never landed on the moon um are joking about China Really, the fake footage we have in the 60s was better than what they're doing. Where's all the high def stuff? Where is anything?! Well and the Chinese make all that gear! That's their irony! Yeah... They are not showing any of that. They had a video of an animation on a flat screen in their command center. Please! How insulting! Why isn't the scientific community saying- Outraged by this lack of what they are showing people please

1:52:36 Turkey is on fire. I got a couple of turkey clips too and the thing is it's interesting because it brings back at a topic there's something that we had we have brought this up numerous times this one this topic about these crazy schools in Texas yep the Gulen movement that's right The Gulenists is the right way to pronounce it nowadays. It's not just Texas, John there are 600 all over the world! There are 600...all over Europe the Gulen movement, the Gulen schools are all over the world. Six hundred schools and now it's believed that the Gulenists are behind what's going on in Turkey which is what we said on this very show

1:53:20 And every time it comes up I'm always reminded and these crazy schools, and it's still somewhat we don't know what the hell is going on. This could be an agency thing but the FBI has been investigating apparently they're all over this the ghouliness in Texas there's a bunch of articles floating around about it. The FBI investigation of ghoulin schools aka Harmony Science Academies in Texas yeah you know they've apparently been Yes, so a number of police officers were arrested for corruption. And everything you read, even Time Magazine and that means the CIA is behind it because if time is doing this then. Now we have someone coming to meet the kids party today and we have a famous documentarian coming too I won't mention his name but he will be joining us and I believe he may be doing something along these lines about this particular thing so you have to understand that this Gulen guy

1:54:19 Who lives in the Poconos, by the way. He lives in a huge compound in Pennsylvania and here's what we have to remind people of... The uncle of the CIA uncle of the Boston Bombers he was a direct connection to the State Department arranging for the green card for this guy's move to the United States Remember that do you remember this now is it coming back to vaguely remember that you're right though. Yeah, and the CIA This is a so this is the most I don't know III just look at and look at it And I go gee this this is too screwy not they have some agency involvement well we have two because we know the Chinese have just the Turks are buying Chinese rockets a little faux pas if you want to be in NATO I'd say

1:55:17 and they're doing that on the heels of a 30 billion dollar loan to complete rail for the Trans-Eurasian Rail Network which will transit through Turkey into Europe to connect China and The Russians who were working together, the Shanghai Cooperation. The Shanghai Cooperative Corporation I think it's called all the way into Europe Rotterdam up to London, down to Bartholona and now also going into Africa as the Chinese are paying for Kenya to upgrade its rail to standard gauge. Oh no! This is very obvious and of course we have all the pipelines running through Turkey not all of them by the way go to this will tickle you John Go to ukrainegas.curry.com This is a great graphic

1:56:17 Ukrainegas.curry.com Yeah, I was ready then i wasn't And you will see here the pipelines that go through Ukraine from Russia and the actual percentages of Russian gas that is used by Ukraine and transits the Ukraine It's like all the gas 66% of Russian gas exported to the European Union trans trans transits Ukraine 66 percent

1:56:55 Yeah, the Ukrainians have no choice in this whole situation with to pick Russia versus the EU. Well not unless they want to get really cold this winter! It's a bad time... yeah and it's not a warm country. And they're getting 15 billion dollar bailout which is like free money and like somebody we had people bitching about Ukraine I don't think that personally I suppose you could maybe make a case but the Ukrainians like somebody said, I don't want to just disparage the Ukrainians we have uh i think one of our producers yeah but they said the only export they have is you know uh hookers it's corruption and prostitutes. Yeah and gas today transit gas! And they would be in the EU there would be you know it'd be a problem I think for the EU to have the Ukrainians when they're really

1:57:45 traditionally more toward the east than the west in terms of their culture. Yeah, well anyway we know that the State Department is there with Victoria Newland assistant deputy secretary of state handing out pretzels to everybody and sandwiches because you know it's good to try and head them off at the pass! And this chart of yours I think really points out what really should happen which is separate the Ukrainian country into two have the Ukrainians. Oh you mean like Bosnia-Herzegovina? Is that, should we do that one again where Yugoslavia turns into two different spots yeah I think there's more than two in Yugoslavia well but that's kind of what we wound up with and yeah the balkanization where these countries say look all Ukraine speaking

1:58:33 People are on the West and they could become part of the EU if they want to try that, and then Russian side can just become part of Russia. Yeah! And typically in this process thousands of people are slaughtered This is great we can just wait for it. Well I'm saying yeah... It's always problematic. I have to agree that its not.. I've been trying to, I've been advocating separating the state of California into three states Oh you and uh You and that Silicon Valley, who was this non-story? That was about... I've been talking about this for a decade. And I always thought having the state cut in half would be a good thing because we get more senators and more representation for the state itself cause it's a big state doesn't need to be this big but then I finally worked it out to three states It should be at northern part, the center part and then the Southern California Canada America Mexico

1:59:21 and like that, kind of a fractal. And it would be fine anyway but you know... Right on the heels of France where prostitution is legal but soliciting sex can get you a 1500 euro fine we now skip over to Canada. In their ruling the justices note that prostitution itself is not illegal in Canada But the laws meant to discourage that trade endangered lives. The three laws made it illegal for prostitutes to communicate with clients in public, do business in private buildings and for anyone else to live off their profits

2:00:09 The court ruled those laws put prostitutes in harm's way by prohibiting them from paying for security, working in brothels or screening clients on the streets. This is very interesting that this took place because you hear who comes out and immediately it's well clearly its okay for people to buy and sell women! Which, of course does not... has nothing to do with this ruling. Because trafficking in humans and underage sex is obviously still illegal In writing the unanimous decision Chief Justice Beverly McLaughlin pointedly raised the case of the BC serial killer who preyed on vulnerable street prostitutes

2:00:52 But groups that fight human trafficking and child prostitution called the ruling a step backwards. It's a sad day, we've now had confirmed that it is okay to buy and sell women and girls in this country I think generations to come our daughters their granddaughters will look back and say what were they thinking? That's really...I mean this is not true This is not what its about Its renting! It's not buying and selling, it's renting And it's yes, there is danger but wow you know. At that time todays decision doesn't have any effect on Canada laws against human trafficking child exploitation and pimping those laws are all still enforced Thank You at least they point that out That was the weekly hooker report

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2:12:27 Stephen Schneider did. He was a climatologist, he was a member of the IPCC working group too... He died of cancer but like it beat it and then all of sudden boom! It's like he was a MacArthur fellow big climate change guy, big big climate change guy. He also was on stage when Barack Obama received his priest prize... he's been around and here he is in 2000 I think beginning 2000s that you died rather suddenly talking about

2:13:11 the dangers of climate change and global warming in the near future. Don't be poor in a hot country, don't live in Hurricane Alley watch out about being on the coasts or in the Arctic it's bad idea to be up on high mountains with your glaciers melting and losing your water supply And if you're in a Mediterranean climate You're gonna have a fire season In the summer It is really going to be a problem Sounds like he's pretty much all-in On the we are all gonna die from global warming Man-made global warming. He wrote the report on man made global warming Unfortunately as I was watching the entire Leonard Nimoy narrated piece about the global cooling from 1978, I came across this Sea ice could be melted by covering it with black soot to increase the absorption of sunlight Dr. Steven Schneider is a climatologist from the National Center for atmospheric research

2:14:07 Can we do these things? Yes. But will they make things better? I'm not sure, we can't predict with any certainty what's happening to our own climatic future How can we come along and intervene then in that ignorance You could melt the ice caps What would that do to the coastal cities The cure could be worse than disease Would that be better or worse than risk of an Ice Age Well there you have it in a nutshell. And then he died suddenly! So this guy was all, in fact if you read about him one of his ideas was to create a nuclear explosion on the pole to break up the ice and then you know but we don't know we can't really predict the climate can we? Oh

2:15:03 I'm sorry, the same guy who in 2010 was writing about the models that were predicting the climate. Should send that to my Republican hating friends Yes yes these are all good things to bring up at the dinner table Yeah Texas no yeah not tonight we're doing a nice Just have a little clip machine with you And they always saw me, oh yeah? Boom. You push the button That'd be great you'd be a great dinner mate no that's not invited back I guess No so you know I was noticing on our donation list there wasn't anybody from India which is one of the largest English-speaking areas and So I figured I have my monthly Indian douchebag clip Oh

2:15:51 So here's a guy that runs the thing in India, he is just a big publisher and he is also you know this typical Brahmin. And it brings up this situation... In fact let us go back to talking about Indian Brahmins Don't you think its little peculiar that this story.. Let us play this clip India Strip Search Fiasco Continues. Our Devyani Kobragade, India's Deputy Consul General was tweeted We have seen the statement issued by the Manhattan U.S. Attorney on December 18th, we need to keep in mind the simple fact that there is only one victim in this case. That victim is Devyani Kobragade a serving Indian diplomat on mission in the United States

2:16:37 This story has captured the Indian media's attention. News outlets are pitching the arrest and detention, including strip searches and cavity checks of the Indian diplomat as the humiliation of the nation Many people have welcomed the government strong response And New Delhi appears determined to set an international example It is not a matter of India alone, but all developed nations should learn a lesson from this and should raise their voice whenever such incidents take place. Protesters shout anti-American slogans in the North Indian state of Rajasthan Their angry chants are feeding a growing chorus of discontent Okay couple things one he said on mission which is annoying

2:17:26 But Rajasthan gives a rat's ass about anything that happens in the United States, I can assure you. But there it is okay they got all riled up for about this thing and i was thinking about this... This is the... You know these Brahmins that are part of most of these missions into like in the United States or in the Council wherever we run into them They're all over the place many of whom were an industry but these Brahmins at least to the high caste Indians are extremely outrageously arrogant There is absolutely, I was looking thinking about this strip search and cavity search. I'm absolutely convinced that they went in there probably like most government guys do with a reasonable you know look you violated this rule you know it's gonna be a fine and she must have given them some outrageous lip as a Brahmin would do because everybody's beneath the Brahman

2:18:20 And so they decided to show her some New York sentiment. And they gave her the once over and showing her who's the boss because she is not the boss of them And that's how this thing is kind of spun out of control. I think it's interesting that nobody really wants to even discuss is anything other than because it makes no sense that they would strip searcher and cavity search a woman for a paperwork violation unless it was something she triggered It's retaliatory move, of course Yeah you can't do this with especially within our police state come on Is hello, officer. Yes sir! What else do you need? Sir

2:19:02 Anyway, I just thought it was just a little thing. So that brought me to this other clip which is the channelled 18 guy who's now considered the Rupert Murdoch of India and he says this and I just couldn't take it The firm also has interests in e-commerce, in films and magazines Just to mention a few Raghav Behl thank you very much indeed for speaking to us It's a real pleasure thank you Now, you've been called the Rupert Murdoch of India. I'm not sure... for some people it's a compliment and for some people perhaps not What do you make of that label? You know, this is more because we are one of those few media companies which has got a footprint both in entertainment and in news

2:19:47 So he goes on with this, we're one of the few companies in the world that is in entertainment and news. Tell me one of these big media companies that's not in news? Let's see ABC, Disney... Of course they're all in entertainment and news or whatever passes for new. crap even first look media peer on the come up in your NARS Laura Poitras great forever and Ralph Greenwald they're gonna be doing sports and entertainment and gossip and celebrity there if they're even their press release says it because you can't do news without entertainment in mainstream right and you can't control the masses without news yeah and you can't control the entertainment without new stories about the entertainment yeah that's what is really about

2:20:35 I mean you have a new now, you see it all the time. You watch one of these even the local shows Oh tonight there is the last episode of Breaking Bad! You know what's gonna happen? Who cares?! Yeah well a lot of people cared So Obama commuted a bunch of drug guys. Yeah, including someone he knew I think yeah well here's the story and here they lift apart out I didn't get the part where you also did a bunch of pardons for the first time but listen to this story do give them the needle here a little bit um mama commutation yes commutation. President Obama commuted the sentences of eight convicted drug offenders today in a written statement he said their prison terms were unduly long under a law that treated crack cocaine more harshly than powder cocaine and more recent law has reduced the disparity before today the president commuted just one sentence in his five years in office

2:21:32 So I did one they didn't mention the pardons and I said well, that's funny They would have met because he did a bunch of pardons. I think eight or something like that all the park And we've talked about this on the show before he doesn't pardon anybody He's a very cruel ruler so he didn't pardon anybody but he partnered a bunch all of a sudden Every one of those pardons to people were already served their term Oh really? Yeah not in one of them was in jail They've long since served their term. Oh, really? Yeah isn't that funny That's lame I read somewhere- Well totally lame! I read somewhere that one of the pardons i thought was like the son of someone he knew Well that was a commutation I think Commutation What is a commutation exactly? That when you commute to sentence The guy's in jail He's not innocent But just let him out You're in too long Boom your out Pardoned is now that your innocent

2:22:28 You're like, you know it's just thrown out the whole case is thrown out. You're okay? You good to go here We go top Democratic ally devolved Patrick's crack dealer cousin Was among eight people whose hefty sentences were commuted yesterday by the president there you go yeah, look at me Well that makes sense I commute a bunch of them so that one didn't stand out right source well Bill Clinton Of course famously pardoned Mark Rich Or the man who essentially set up the oil spot market for illegally trading with Iran and went on to create Glencore, the largest oil corporation in the universe. He died recently. Yeah Recently

2:23:15 Hey, I got this report about Central Africa. Yeah wow! I got a lot about what's going on... You can go on with yours because mine is not as... Well wait wait wait wait I want this played first because it'll get it out of the way and I want you to tell me there's and the reason for this report that I have it clipped this is the CAF with big voice there's a guy that comes on and he's got one of these unbelievable big voices you know what I'm talking about? Well, this is bigger than that. You can't even do this voice it's so big and I want to see if you can spot it when it comes on the clip. UN Ambassador Samantha Power is getting a close-up look at the violence in the Central African Republic She met with the country's president on Thursday The Obama administration says it will provide 100 million dollars to assist African Union troops and another 15 million to the U.N for humanitarian aid as Al Jazeera's Andrew Simmons reports

2:24:11 A military handover that's meant to make a difference to the traumatized people of the Central African Republic. The CAR peacekeepers called FOMAC are now replaced by a much larger force, it's named MISCA Another military acronym in this continent's troubles and the largest force of its kind in this country. It will try to calm the CAR which is on the brink of more killing and the threat of genocide is ever present. Its twice the size of existing force called FOMAC, and will double that number again in coming weeks to 6,000 With the military build-up, more political pressure is bearing down on the country's interim president Michel Jotadier to calm the anger and threaten full justice against anyone involved in the unknown number of atrocities. We have discussed with the President of the transition to really insist on what needs to be done to prevent further atrocity crimes In other words it is critical that

2:25:14 message comes from himself to make sure that nobody will be immune from any form of prosecution. Okay you can stop it well let me tell you a little bit about I have a very... You can't do voice, I want that voice! I can't do this voice because we tell the president about the atrocities. You're almost close his voices got a little more soothing low notes than you've got. Blow Me Well, was it not your our economic hitman who verbatim said several maybe two months ago. It's time for genocide in the region

2:25:59 I don't think he was advocating it. Well, I don't know what he was doing but he did say this and Sudan is also falling apart right now South Sudan specifically yeah yeah it's completely falling apart here's the question about I tried to get some South Sudan clips But there was always this last clip I got, it's too wordy. It is very annoying to listen to. Yeah it was no good and it was Al Jazeera if you think they'd summarize better So here's the thing with South Sudan, I want to ask a rhetorical question They've got this one guy with his big gap tooth guy I think he's the guy who wears the cowboy hat or the other guy who wears a cowboy hat. They're all crazy down there, so this guy is out of government and wants to get back into government Now he's trying to take over the place and they're trying to get rid of the other guys and they are killing each other left and right And we are on one side or the other

2:26:52 Why don't we just, since it's Sudan why don't we blow one of these guys up? Yeah. We got everything in Djibouti I think it is because there isn't enough rubble My rubble theory holds true here Because we could easily fix this dilemma in South Sudan by blowing up one of the two guys No! That's no fun With a drone. Boom done! No we need more rubble Yeah, we need more rebels. So they're gonna all hell's gonna break loose. They're gonna kill each other We're going to stand by watching it and then we're gonna ring our hand Samantha Powers is gonna Go over there and she looks so out of place in Africa I have to say yeah She looks like a nervous wreck oh my god. I didn't sign up for this

2:27:35 Totally, exactly. She'd rather be in a New York coffee house she does not look good no and she just looks like a wreck and she's wearing the wrong clothes yeah I mean to do this job you have to be ruthless and she essentially you know she's married to Cass Sunstein And Cass of course is all in on the you know, let's let's make turn everything into a police state infiltrate the conspiracy theorists Hey there chat room You know He wrote that he was on the panel for the recommendations for the NSA to expand the authority and of the NSA Do go read it for yourself. Don't believe with them what the media is telling you It's expanding it and creating a bonanza for Richard Clark To have a third-party store all of this crap for a fee

2:28:21 So she was out, she was coasting. She was hanging out in the White House you know she and Valerie Jarrett whatever she's doing and then she like oh I get promoted! Oh this is so great what? Holy crap! I gotta have to wear long sleeves?! In Sudan!? Oh no yeah Yeah she's gonna end up with Barry Berry or something Barry Barry, you know one of those African diseases. Oh, okay? I think very very swell up or gigantic is whatever this Barry Barry Yeah, so the president as under the war powers resolution

2:28:59 has sent approximately 45 US armed forces personnel to South Sudan. Why can't he just say 45? Why is it approximately? Gee, it's hard to count to 45! I wonder about that myself because it could be 450 That's what I'm saying... It's bullshit And he said I'm providing this report as part of my efforts keep the Congress fully informed consistent with the War Powers Resolution Because of course its Al-Qaeda or terrorism or whatever which is a lie Muppets are not gonna jump up and blow us up here now But what a South Sudan have and we got it make oil in plenty of it And make sure the Chinese don't come in or kick whatever is there out well They're gonna be rubble and with the process whatever Chinese China's doing there. It's gonna be blowed up, but that's gonna get hit for sure What is the capital? Yeah, what's the capital of South Sudan?

2:29:55 I don't know. Let's take a look in the book of knowledge and get that straight South Sudan's capital it is Ben we is not been weak yeah, yeah Yeah, I think so or Juba a new but juba juba juba So let's look at juba just look at some pictures of juba images Let's see what Juba is. Yeah, Juba! Juba is the capital and largest city of the Republic of South Sudan it also serves as a capital central Equatona...Equatonia It wouldn't take much The capital of Equatoria, Equatoria Central Equatorial What the hell is that? Is one of the ten states in South Sudan Oh, it's state in? Yeah you got all these states It wouldn't take much to make this look more rubbly Its pretty rubbly as-is

2:30:46 Yeah, it doesn't mean you know rubble really really rubble is like should be wow Wow that's a rubble Where do we have rubble right now? We have we have rubble in Syria. Yes Syria Libya Not Egypt yet. No we're getting there working on Turkey well turkeys the turkeys down the line I think Egypt will go first and Turkey it's gonna Be it's good to split this can be right up the Bosporus That's yeah He took it right up the Bosphorus That's where the split is going to be. Between the terrorists and the non-terrorists or whatever they're gonna make up, uh...to stop trains and pipelines and what have you Do you before we uh I got a couple things to wrap up here that i think will be kind of funny but do you want to talk about this? This Jon Stewart accusation was pretty interesting And the reason why I bring it up Is because a lot of people really think that Jon Stewart is great his show and although extremely funny

2:31:49 And I know him. I know him when he started the Jon Stewart show at MTV, and I've worked with a nice enough guy But I was kind of blown away by these accusations Yeah, it's done by David. I actually know the guy that did the accusations. They're doing pretty well, but who is this David Feldman? known to his friends as Feldo. And he's a writer, comedian? He is a stand-up comic. He does off color...he likes to do borderline off color jokes kind of like Louis CK does. Feldman has never brought himself to actually get to the level of Louis CK but it's that same type of material you know

2:32:31 jokes about prostitutes and pedophilia, you know just with a light touch. Highbrow material? Yeah it works to a point so apparently he I guess this guy got him on an interview show we should have taken a clip from it which we could have and he just went off on Stewart He has been a head writer or writer for Bill... he was a writer with the Dennis Miller Show when he was on HBO. He was actually, I think the head writer when Miller was on HBO then he worked for uh.. Bill Maher. No i think it worked for Stewart then he worked for Bill Maher if im not mistaken whatever the case is hes really a stand up comic that writes for a living because he doesn't

2:33:13 he's not as famous in a stand-up comic has never gotten to the family and maybe need to explain how these shows work is not everyone sees john stewart things boy he's brilliant and there's three other people who appear from time to time but you must have twenty writers he's got a huge staff of writers and so does bill maher mars is less than it used to be and then do we have just one account how many writers do we have two writers Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak yeah and then we have a bunch of stringers who send us email and jingle it and we tend to take the the 2 writers at this show you in me I week and take stuff from that right on yeah we don't have a big could be interesting he'd be funnier anyway so apparently Stewart is anti-union

2:34:05 Prick according to this article which is linked in the last newsletter if you didn't get the newsletter You should have gotten it. It's in the newsletter, and it's linked there and it's a very interesting discussion about What he thinks about everybody thinks Dennis Miller's technically the funniest guy But doesn't agree with his politics things bill Maher's middle of the road but he agrees with this politics and Feldman is old-fashioned liberal and then Hates John Stewart because he's a piece of the anti-union now only tell the story that his writers wanted to unionize He fought against it. They joined the Writers Guild they joined the Union and He has punished them by not using any material from and from the writers who joined the Union right? Supposedly which is kind of the worst thing you can do to a writer a writer You know, the writer will take a check for only so long

2:34:59 But if you start having his material ever acknowledged as useful, yeah. It's true they would bail out just because there are other jobs out there especially for comedy writers I mean the big gig you want is a comedy writer is one of the staff writers for an ongoing comedy show on network TV that pays around $40,000 depending but you can get up to $40,000 a week What? Yes Wow Holy crap! 40 thousand a week Yeah for the run of the show and then you get residuals so oh wow there's money really you get residuals if your joke is used or just in general no it's just a piece that it's just a couple points of the action some wow I didn't know that but your writer don't get like the actors give huge residuals but you get something huh

2:35:49 Interesting. Yeah, yeah and I think Stewart's just like 5,000 a week. Somebody gave me the number once...I think actually next time i get ahold of Feldman I'll find out what the numbers are for writers on The Stewart Show because he'll tell me Cool And then we'll say I think it's five or something like that a week something I'm not sure Five thousand? Yeah something like that Jeez Wow and that's in there and that's not their only gig they can do other things Generally this is their only gig Oh okay I mean you can try writing a book but you're, in the writer's room it's time consuming. The Federal Register put a little ditty out which is kind of interesting. The National Archive and Records Administration is issuing final notice about the disposal of a collection of disaster recovery backup tapes from the George HW Bush and Clinton administrations

2:36:43 If no one says they want it, they'll be destroyed. What? On February 18th 2014. Well somebody must want them! Who reads the Federal Register?! Just us, bad Chad from Colorado's reading it. Well maybe Chad should get the tapes I don't know if civilians can do that Why not? It is public document there is no such thing as a copyright in government publication The National Archives and Records Administration determined further retention of these disaster recovery backup tapes is not warranted

2:37:21 the presidential and federal electronic mail they have other backups in other words they're not throwing out material who knows i'm not yeah i'm not so sure who knows well I think it would be something that should be looked at at minimum someone to just look at it. They're just gonna shred them anyway, they don't like re-they don't recycle anything. No, no they don't okay there's a interesting one of our producers Scott Malkentine, I think from Australia marked up a document which is did a great job at PDF. This is A study done by James Alan Fox and Monica Jade de la tour Published December 18th this is mass shootings in America moving beyond Newtown And he did a great job of marking this up it essentially is Myth about mass shootings in America and it's very interesting to read

2:38:24 First of all, a mass shooting. Do you know how many people have to be killed for it to be deemed a mass shooting? Two Four Actually four There's all kinds of factual evidence Okay myth Mass shootings are on the rise Factually not true Not true Pretty much consistent since 1976 Incidents and victims Pretty much consistent Consistent There's no surge. From year to year, they just get more publicity than before so everyone gets all worked up? Correct according to the expanded data over the past few decades there have been on average nearly 20 mass shootings a year in United States most of course were nowhere as deadly as recent massacres in Aurora Newtown but if countless Americans believing that a new epidemic is upon them because that's what the media tells you reflects the facts clearly state there has been no increase in mass shootings and certainly no epidemic

2:39:22 Myth, recent mass murders involve record-setting body counts. Also not true if you look at the history then we have violent entertainment video games are linked to mass murder of course no evidence for that greater attention... It's just the opposite actually yes Let's see, widening the availability of mental health services will allow unstable individuals to get treatment. They need to avert mass murders. Turns out no clear relationship between psychiatric diagnosis and mass murder has been established. They've been trying to establish that since 1986 they have not been able to establish that which is interesting

2:40:11 and recent examination of 93 mass shootings from January 2009 to September 2013 conducted by mayors against illegal guns the Bloomberg founded outfit in only 10 of the 93 cases was there evidence that concerns mental health of the shooter that had been brought to the attention of a medical practitioner or legal authority prior to the shooting spree my favorite assault weapons used in these 93 incidents. How many of the 93 mass shootings, four people or more involved a assault weapon or high-capacity magazine John? Well if you listen to the mainstream media it would be all of them yeah 14. 14 out of how many? 93 that's quite a low statistic

2:41:05 And then, yeah so there's a couple more. This is a very good document I appreciate Scott for marking that up that's very cool you'll find it under the war on crazy and it kind of flows into something that I guess we missed or you know of course the news uh of the Arapaho high school shooting has been covered up because well first of all was an armed guard who if this was not a drill if it was real if this kid is even real Which we won't know if this kid was even real, well because of this. The shooter was not removed from the debate team and the teacher that was responsible for that disciplinary action was his- was the shooters main target We still have to visit with a variety of people to determine what the outcome or interaction relative to the threat was Sheriff were you prepared to release the suspects DOB?

2:41:55 The question is are you going to release the suspects DOB date of birth? I'm not quite sure why that it's incredibly relevant, but this is the douchebag sheriff your favorite guy with a tick. With his head moving all over the place and his answer is interesting We will release the date of birth within the next day or so. I will tell you that he's 18 years old He was 18 years old. But I will also tell you, and this is a bit of an editorial comment on my part... This is my personal perspective as usual followed by my professional responsibility. I will share his date of birth but I will tell you that I am no longer inclined nor will I speak his name in public. What? Yeah listen to this! He is someone who victimized an innocent young lady

2:42:52 by an act of evil and in my opinion deserves no notoriety, and certainly no celebrity. He deserves no recognition The issue here is the victimization of Claire Davis And the victimization of this community in this school So it is my professional and my personal perspective that although I realize your responsibilities, I also understand my perspective on life. And I choose never to use his name again in public." And this is the PIO, the Public Information Officer in this case besides being a sheriff for for this particular incident now of course

2:43:36 I'm thinking that there may be something more to this, the fact that he was gunned down by an armed officer and police so there was no mass casualty because it has to be four at least. Four dead before its a mass shooting so it's not a mass shooting He was a socialist which is to not fit with the redneck crazy gun freaks Right. Gay hating, gay hating gun freaks and of course and I know i'm not allowed to play her but here's mad cow all over it the sheriff's commitment as you just heard there to not deliver notoriety or recognition To the gunman who perpetrated the crime And then killed himself The Sheriff's refusal to speak the Gunman's name that turns out to be catching on Oh! In The New York Times today some survivors Of mass shootings and victims family members

2:44:24 are advancing the argument that gunmen in these incidents should as much as possible just be written out of the coverage of these crimes. Oh, okay! What? Yeah, she's all in on this. What kind of reporter is she does a half-hour segment on this with all kinds of people who are like yeah No Because we can't with there We should not give them celebrity because of course celebrities only if you swallow penis on camera That's you know and then release that that's when you get celebrity in America not for killing people That's how we do things Against the rules. It's against the rules of celebrity. Yeah, it is If you get drunk and do something weird if you don't wear your panties And you step out of the car Anything with Dennis Rodman? You know These are all things that get you celebrity you see not even if you're talented if you're talented you shouldn't have celebrity No no

2:45:20 And if you know this is not how we get celebrity. This is, we're not ruining our airwaves with these celebrities and I'm...I think that John honestly I think that this is only for this case That they just want to get rid of THIS This one does not fit. We'll see. I'm not sure you're right, but it could be maybe because there's something about this case... Because they definitely want to get this case off because it does not follow the narrative The guy is a socialist that was an armed guard at the school that was advocated by the NRA as we talked about on the last show That shot the guy and stopped the whole thing from getting out of control And all these things are not part of the narrative The anti-gun, anti big clip and all the rest of it

2:46:09 and you know the guys being a right winger so yeah it's possible that it's a one-shot we'll see now staying in Denver public and news media will be barred from a pretrial hearing in the Colorado theater shooting that will include testimony from a psychiatrist who evaluated whether defendant James Holmes was insane Arapaho County District Judge Testimony from the psychiatrist and other witnesses would infect a large portion of the jury pool with factual information about home sanity, and make it impossible for him to get a fair trial. Let me reread that sentence

2:46:50 The Arapaho County District Judge Carlos A. Samor, Jr., said testimony from the psychiatrist and other witnesses would quote infect a large portion of the jury pool with factual information about Holmes' sanity and make it impossible for him to get a fair trial Why can we not have factual information? Why is that a bad thing? I don't know well I don't know. This is very... Because it's a kangaroo court? That would explain it! Well, I think because he was something was going on with him and I believe that this is not necessarily saying he was mentally insane but maybe he was mentally controlled or something else was going on and someone was honest about it and wrote it down and we can't have that hmm that's what I'm thinking

2:47:53 And parts of the judge's ruling were even redacted. Seven pages of 40 pages of his ruling were redacted! What is this play? What is this country?! Why can't... It sounds like Canada! It's so dangerous we can't have this information because what could possibly be so dangerous to know about him Samore's 40 page ruling said the upcoming hearing is quote one of those rare situations in which closure of a pretrial hearing is not only justified but required because of the potential damage to Holmes' right to a fair trial. I don't understand either you're insane or you're not insane

2:48:42 But there must be something else that has been written down, that someone doesn't want the public to know about. Because I can't think of any case... What difference would it make? We're all grown-ups! We get it people died, bad news, bad day but why can't we know what his mental state was? You got me you're asking the wrong guy yeah I'm just saying You don't know either. I don't? There's some piece of information that they don't want out is what it is. Well, these seven pages of the judge's ruling by itself is that they don't want out so... Yeah, the guy was like EMK Ultra That's what I'm thinking! Or something he's a part of a government program or on some sort of mixture of drugs for some reason because he looked like a maniac sitting there yeah and there's something crazy about him that you don't wanna talk about because

2:49:38 It would embarrass someone in the government. I can't see any other reason for that Yeah, yeah know something's fishy about this That's a way to do it did S&P downgrade Europe that I did I see that correctly? No, I didn't see that Yeah, I think I did see that well they should have if they didn't It wasn't really a lot of news. Yeah, the ratings agency Standard & Poor's downgraded long-term credit rating of the European Union on Friday. Good! it should have been downgraded... Taking away its top notch AAA grade and making it AA+. Which means oh man Oh my god This is the last thing I got to talk to you about Wow this um where is it? The Why can't I find this now? Oh here it is

2:50:27 The CFTC, you'll be talking about this with Horowitz. You doing a show with him this week? No we're not doing a show until next year. Oh too bad it may all be over by then the CFTC which is the Commodity Futures Trading Commission said oh there were some technical errors in reporting the swaps data this is the derivatives um We under reported the swap's market by 55 trillion dollars What is the GDP of America? I don't know, it's a good question. It's not that No! No it's not! I think we're maybe at 10 or something Well let's find out what the GDP is nowadays 55 trillion underreporting because of a glitch It's a glitch in the computers That's a helluva glitch Yeah But what's interesting when...I know how swaps work but I don't know anything else about

2:51:29 This and how the CFTC works, but you know 15.68 trillion okay so this is for three three and a half times the size of the entire GDP of the United States of America on annual basis yeah 55 trillion dollars which is It's a tech man that actually said a technical coding issue Yeah But I was googling around for that number and in 2008 September, just before the maybe was just around the time of the bailout that number popped up and I thought that was kind of interesting. This is from what let me see what this is from CNN from 2008 as Congress wrestles with another bailout bill to try to contain the financial contagion there's a potential killer bug out there whose next movement can't be predicted- The credit default swap in just over decade these privately traded derivative contracts have ballooned from nothing into

2:52:33 55 trillion dollar market. Is it possible, John that this 55 trillion CDS credit default swaps was technically coded away and now they're trying to finagle it back somewhere or is that just really a coincidence? Well the numbers of coincidence I mean is weird coincidence...I don't know! I think everyone's been aware of the size credit default swap business, and it's high. And I think 55 trillion may be low." No no the entire swaps in derivatives market not this is just credit default so the entire derivatives market is 700 trillion. Okay that's what the president said 600 trillion but I think it's about 700 trillion a lot yeah yeah kind of but it's you know it's it's kind of misleading because

2:53:29 Most of these swaps just expire and there's really have a long, it's not really necessarily worth anything after they go away. Unless someone starts wanting to collect and this is what Warren Buffett called weapons of financial destruction or whatever he called it? Yeah It still kind of has never been well reported how this is going to affect the economy one way or another Well other than that we just had this bill passed which allowed banks to keep their exposure to derivatives inside their FDIC insured entities. It all just kind of comes at the same time, that's all I'm noticing. I'm not a financial wizard and i don't know what I'm talking about...I'm just noticing little patterns along with Europe's downgrade, along with Europe's new-new-new bank out bail in deal. I think your 2017 number is coming up my friend

2:54:25 Yeah, I may come sooner than later. We'll see in the next year we're definitely gonna get through this year without the Without the perfect collapse because everything's off damn But there will be a collapse of some sort and I like to market going over 16,000 as it goes much higher than is probably gonna reset sometime next year yeah now I think that I think we have to have at 40% reduction Which would not be the collapse, but it would certainly be a reset. I think that has to happen with gold at $1200. Do you think it'll go below $1000? Yeah! You do? I don't think its going far below, but at $900 looks like a good place to be. Wow and that would be a reset back to 2007 because remember I bought my gold Krugerrands

2:55:19 850 I think? Yeah, yeah. Well you're still in the blue and the black. I'm holding on to him man that's gonna be worth a lot more when the time comes So what do i have left uh... I just wanted mention there somebody sent us this link to this article we didn't cover when it came out July of 2012 actually But this is a very funny story about the team of researchers at the University of California Davis set out to test the reliability of drug and bomb sniffing dogs. This is one of our themes of the show, I just never had this particular article The team assembled 18 police dogs and their handlers and gave them a routine task Go through a room and sniff out the drugs and explosives

2:56:02 But in order to pass the, but there was a twist. The room was clean no drugs no explosives In order to pass the test of handlers and their dogs had to go through the room and detect nothing but of 144 runs that only happened 21 times with a failure rate of 85 percent Although drug sniffing dogs are supposed to find drugs on their own the researchers concluded that they were influenced by their handlers It smelled like dope! Wow. Yeah, we've talked about this before these got these dogs lie Yes They're told to lie by their handlers and the handler will do I don't know you know it's just like any other trained dog You know you have a little signal you move your foot a certain way or you scratch your cheek Next thing you know the dog sitting next to something as though it's got drugs or bombs in it lying dogs sons of bitches lying dogs

2:56:57 Alright Johnny boy, what are you doing for the 25th? That's Wednesday. I'm heading up north and i'll be up there. You'll be up there for Thursday show? Yes, I will on Sundays too. Oh okay nice well that's good to hang out with the family. And we'll see hopefully connection will be as good as this and uh... I'll be doing my work from up there. Okay, I am here with the girls All three girls, Miss Mickey. We have Miss Christina and we have Miss Rihanna So I've got the girls here We're doing an old-school family Christmas And a big meet the kids drink thing tonight Everyone's dropping by so were really festive

2:57:44 Sounds like it's festive time for all yeah, it is really nice. I miss the kids so much You know what? It's like when you have young kids around like you got JC and his wife wife. Hello Yeah there rides nice when the young kids are hanging around you learn a lot. Thank you something to grumble about I learned A lot really a lot. Yeah, you tend to learn quite a bit Yeah, some stuff that... Oh actually I'll talk about it. You tend to learn something like so i'm listening to this ad the sprint ad and i'm wondering is are they making this up? This is supposed to be a conversation they bring out two famous actors Malcolm McDowell and the deep voice black guy, whatever I can't remember his name offhand And they talk about the you know They got a big James Earl Jones James Earl Jones and then and they and their supposedly reading or read You know They're reading with some girls apparently have typed in now either they ever spying on the girls and they got this This dialogue or they just made it up which I believe is sorry. I do

2:58:43 I just believe this is bullcrap. Sprint honors Lizzie and Kim's call on our new network Ryan is a total hottie McHarrison. Obvi! He's amazeballs, he's like the hottest hottie that ever hottied. He's like a hottie times infinity plus another infinity and his smile is totes adorbs! Totes mcgoats it's cray-cray adorbz. Totes mcgoats In honor of the important things you do save up to $100 on any new phone when you switch to Sprint Yeah, that's not how my kids talk. Get this ad off the air! Yeah that's pretty bad. Kids don't even watch TV and they're all starting to think about dropping their cell phone plans too. That's a plus. Going Wi-Fi Anyway that's it I got other stuff we can talk about on Thursday and if we get a couple more 1111s will do those two Oh okay lovely well look forward to that

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