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00:00 Anyone ever gets caught with a hooker has to shoot himself. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Sunday November 17th 2013 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 566 This is no agenda Monitoring the Black Peeps from Racism Central the heart of Amsterdam and Gitmo Nation lowlands in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where i remain and tell you do not buy harmonicas from China, I am John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! What is wrong with your harmonica from China my friend? it sounds like crap, you know sounded okay when I first got it but these high notes listen... Nice! Now compare that to a German harmonica

00:51 Oh, a honer. Is that... is honer German? You know- Yeah they're both honers I have to say there is really nothing like flying 4,000 miles being jet-lagged, then doing the show at 6 in the evening and having that piercing sound in your ears. Ah it's piercing interesting! So anyway how are you doing? How is the flight? Well... It was Friday that you flew and you've been there for days Yeah so we arrive Saturday of course, Saturday afternoon

01:29 because you fly through the night. I have to say a couple interesting things first of all, the TSA and airport security are messing up my system because what used to be, you know of course we can't raise our arms so we don't have to go through the naked body scanner but it used to be that you could just walk through the premier line to get right up to the coach even with your coach ticket which is kind of our system now of course Miss Mickey went through a different line because we can't both go through the line with an arm issue that would be kind of obvious and uh... but instead of the premium line is only known as the pre-check line

02:12 Because premium passengers in most cases I guess are now automatically pre-checked passengers. What does that even mean? uh... well you know what pre-check is right this is the uh... this is a so this is that that that system yet this is kind of that that scam um... by to get more money out here yeah and it's not most people who are your super gold status or first class uh... they automatically are kinda enrolled in the pre check they still have you still have to have been meeting and you know so there's just no more but does no more line is no more first class lines do you think you can only if your pre-check and or

02:52 you know, can you go through the first class line which is what Miss Mickey and I would always do. It's just take your coach ticket and walk right up to the front. They never said anything but now it's like they don't care if you're first-class or not it's you're not precheck! Which of course I'm never going to be. I'm not gonna be precheck and give out my biometric data and have you follow me? And did you know that now the credit scores are prechecked that's all now combined Why? Well, because if your credit score really drops all of a sudden... Oh because you might want to blow up the plane if you got lousy credit scores. Is that the rationale? Well I'm not kidding! You could be considered a security risk so now all that's being put together it's crazy your credit score which by itself is a big bogus thing is now combined with your pre-check data

03:47 So anyway that so you have a credit card in dispute and now be considered an enemy of the state I actually my credit score is. I don't know it's like 400 all of a sudden because someone ordered AT&T U-verse in Los Angeles, and it got billed to me AT&T never even asked me anything they just sent a collection agency cuz I guess they were trying to build Someone at that address on my account I said no, i have nothing to do with it. So the credit agency just put this on my credit record and now im tanked because i have no credit cards or anything all i have is bad debt. Im so sorry. Im surprised they didnt do secondary screening for you. Come along Mr Curry. I will say interesting for the first time... Lets see your wallet. Yeah for the first time because of course we had to fly via Atlanta

04:42 I was on a flight where the flight attendant said, you know, you can go ahead and continue to use your electronic devices as long as you have them in flight mode. So that's a new thing of course that certain carriers are allowing to happen And of course, I... Right. Well that's the... and ladies and gentlemen this is exciting report from Europe! Oh no you asked me how the flight was? No now i'm going to tell you about... That was my fault unlike the other thing Alright so we arrive here

05:18 Wait, wait. Stop stop! Let's go back on the flight this is always entertaining to everybody any incidents on the flight? You were in coach or you're first class? Did you get upgraded? Were they nice to you was Delta... Was the food any good on Delta I doubt There was no food on delta that's an hour and half flight to Atlanta we had a peanut and we paid thirteen dollars for two Bloody Marys Which is such a bargain. That seems like a scam you think and Everything works nice that you get off the plane in Atlanta You get on little train boom here because the flight is, you know It's connected they know that you're gonna go on to Amsterdam now there was no upgrade whatsoever nothing going on like that Yeah, the flight attendants on the KLM flight are always nice to us They always kind of have that Oh what a surprise to see you back here in coach

06:14 I'm giving it to you. Everyone's survive, everyone survives. See some really well-known celebrity in coach and i think everybody looks at him because they look so sheepish we just don't care and it's a given traveling coach for so long uh... which is doing can you in your case i'd just really i mean i consider myself net naturally uncomfortable in coaching because at six one yeah but you're like six five yes i didn't think he's six one yeah it's this not comfortable now on the you know well it's um... we do pay the extra hundred dollars for uh... was that

06:56 economy comfort. Oh the two inches? Yeah so yeah we'll take those extra two inches that's really nice and but yeah no it's a difference between $900 dollars a ticket and three-and-a-half thousand you know who has that kind of money oh yeah we're gonna go to Amsterdam for a week it's a seven thousand dollar round trip plane ticket for the two of us I think not And of course, the Netherlands buy it. We're in an Airbnb right now as we... that's our new thing. Why ever stay in a hotel ever again? Because they are going to outlaw Airbnb?! I think the opposite is going to happen! They already did it New York City! Oh yeah sure, let's step back for second here's the future of our world

07:47 And we're seeing this with Uber and obviously we're seeing it with Airbnb. You are going to see more of this. The world's economy is going to run on I'd call them credibility market exchanges or something like that. So with Airbnb, you're very much like Yelp only Yelp got pretty compromised but i think you can still follow some people on Yelp. But if you take Airbnb and look at the reviews and decide if you want to stay in this place Negotiate the price, which is kind of cool. But you also have a lot of power So there are couple things that weren't right here and we called up I said hey man You know do you want to shitty review from us or are you gonna knock something off the price? Are you going to take care of a couple things right now? Because you do have some power because these guys don't want a bad review conversely Airbnb has their own database of me and i'm in it

08:42 And there are, you know anyone who's renting out their place can go and look up me and see if I got a bad review from somebody else saying well this guy trashed the place or... So this is really interesting. That's what Uber does as well with drivers and passengers so Airbnb may go away but because it has business obviously it's competing with the hotels and tax revenue But I think as we move forward and people start to realize that all these companies, there's no real good way to make money on the internet other than providing internet access. but regulation will kill these types of businesses, but there will be tons of databases where you have this credibility and and you can trade stuff in and buy things from people directly. I think we're going to see a lot of that. Well you know you have to give credit where credit is due this actually began with eBay. Totally! This is absolutely where it started

09:39 eBay came up with the idea that you can buy direct from one person and then they would review each other. You could say this buyer never sent me the money or this guy's a scammer, or this piece of crap he showed one picture and sent us something else... And that sort of thing. Even Craigslist doesn't do that. I mean, you can post something in the commentaries of Craigslist but nobody reads it. Actually, I would go a little bit beyond eBay and give the porn industry uh... i would give them props because the porn industry is always a little bit ahead of the curve and i think escort reviews came before ebay escort reviews are one way well whatever customer reviews old adam curry came over the other day in trying to paying me any better than get it up that now let's not true okay but he did uh... okay i'll take that i'd i just think that by

10:40 Well, everybody wants to do this by the way. I just one of my major pet peeves for the last 25 years Oh The porn industry is way ahead of everybody else they did everything wasn't for the porn industry There'd be no VHS and Sony Betamax Which is bullcrap? The thing that made those those systems work was sports recording That's why vhs won over beta because it could record a whole foot the ballgame and beta couldn't. Oh is this true? I'd never heard this, i liked it, this was a very interesting take, I've never heard that Yeah, and so that mean that's the only reason of difference there was a quality difference with bait in favor of beta right but it could only record two hours and VHS always at the get-go started recording with four and then went to six and Beta just felt because why would I want this one? I can get this And so they and it was you know, and there was also more competition It was kind of like the iPad versus the Android and don't forget. There was also the Philips system 2000

11:38 Oh, don't we don't get the Magnavox? And my all-time favorite was... Those were good. My favorite one was a guy who's I went to up with this is that era when they had all these competitors and this guy takes me aside he said and they had even Technicolor had a little eight millimeter job that was kind of ahead of its time but this guy takes me so I says no I don't get this stuff he says it's says here's the future this Sanyo V chord. this is where we're with the sky where were where was it so what are these short but it's you know pacific stereos or one of these things yes and you'll be court as he got a technologies better it's easier to make everybody's going to it everybody yeah uh... well you know what uh... all uptake that i think i've never heard this theory about the sports uh... games in the length of recording eyeball also always heard it was the porn industry

12:31 And I'm with you on that. I stand corrected, but regardless... One convert out of none because nobody wants to buy it. They all just something appealing about the porn industry they're the first to do everything. Yeah they're the first to do pop-up ads maybe as it were I think the first real-time streams were all... Actually, a lot of those came from Amsterdam. Casa Rosso was doing their live shows, they were streaming them live very early on. Doesn't mean they invented the technology or anything

13:12 So you're on the plane, let's go back to the plane. Screw the plane! Now we're in Airbnb and I was going to say a big problem of course even though this is very short trip and even though it is business related because Miss Mickey is working with a new gallery and her expo here has been extended so that's all really good she's basically paying for it The euro is just killing me The exchange rate is just out of control, man. I know it's hard to be in Europe with this euro at a buck thirty-five and that's the official rate but they scam you even more on the exchanges there so you probably go up to a buck forty

13:56 So you want to buy a $1 cup of something and it's about 40 to you, and it is already overpriced. Actually they'll jack up the two euros which makes it three euros for something worth a dollar. It just... it's ludicrous! Yeah so I'm trying to hit on old friends like hey remember I bought dinner last time? How are you doing when I am in town And of course, we arrived yesterday the exact same day as the holy man Sinterklaas and his black piece who arrived on the steamboat, the steamship.

14:36 from Spain. The Black Peets were with him? And with the Black Peets, and of course we know that this is the big controversy that everyone's all up in arms the entire international community and all the immigrants in the Netherlands this racism! We can't have any of this! How many people were protesting and how many got arrested do you think John? Well there was probably I'm guessing based on the reporting I'm guessing probably 10 to 15,000 protesters and probably maybe a hundred arrests and five or six beatings. Well to be exact one guy was protesting and got arrested

15:20 one guy hundred percent of the protesters got arrested that's how we get out of it and i'm laughing you know and there was no not there were no white pizza rainbow colored peter any of this bullcrap people are talking about but the funny thing is after we did bond this whole year united nations letter that was sent member this week representative of the high representative of uh... phony yes i mean some essentially some consultant who had got to use a u n letterhead and who was calling out to the government of the Netherlands, you have to stop this Prime Minister. This is racism! The BBC ran the report with the same lady as Real News! ...illustration that people's experience of black peeps can be determined by their skin color

16:06 Today, in a country of approximately 17 million people more than 3.5 million are either foreign-born Dutch citizens or children of non-Dutch immigrants Many are angered by accusations that Black Pete perpetuates racial stereotypes More than 2 million people have liked this petition supporting the tradition Others, like Michel are making more permanent statements. This determination to protect black peace is for some derived from fears about immigration and the ensuing erosion of Dutch culture. There are a lot of cultures coming in here and we're very easy to a lot of cultures but they're saying now hey stop your own cultures

16:50 But the UN's letter to the Dutch government argues that sometimes cultural rights can be in direct conflict with human rights. One of its four authors believes that the image of Black Pete perpetuates racial stereotypes You can understand I think easily why black people feel offended It is really their hair which defines them as being black And I think a lot of white people don't understand that, it's really such... you don't mess with black hair. So this is the lady from the UN and now she has a new story Is you can't mess with black people's hair! So the way that Black Pete's hai- yeah i know The way that Black Pete's hair which is all like curly and crazy and out in kind of an unkempt afro Now this her stories like oh everybody knows You Don't Make Fun Of Black People's Hair

17:39 What? I'm telling you, this is insane and this is the BBC! They have suffered from this inferiority for so many centuries. And I think the last thing we should want... ...is to remind them of that past Of their bad hair past?! This lady's off her rocker The government has so far rejected international calls to intervene to change SpartaPeak's appearance The majority people here are celebrating this event There are no racist undertones. The UN's view though is that just because something is invisible to you, it doesn't mean it does not exist. Anyway... So there you have the BB- Did you hear that last part? Oh yeah! Just because it isn't and you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exists It's- Now here's my I'm gonna predict this right or after bat Alright Within 10 years Black Pete's dead But not just like out of the culture they've actually killed him you mean

18:37 Well, I don't know about that. But they could do it that way. That's the way you do in a soap opera. that it would wouldn't surprise me and i've died i think they'd probably what will happen is but no we had no protests in the country nothing's going on nobody really cares as a business one person does once we can we'll have to destroying attention to it and making it look like it something that isn't which is easy enough to do she is going to result in the whole thing and people are gonna win away at what well this way did we do this now then you forget about there will be no black pete normal be no black people more yeah that's a rather irritating there's something that happens i think it's in wales

19:26 Oh no, there's traditions around the world that are even on like the UNESCO list of you know protected traditions and it's literally a guy dressed up in blackface with like an orange dress on. It's exactly the same thing but it's some other continent and oh its okay there Either that or that the woman just she's just targeting the Danes or the sorry though the Dutch Yeah, the Danes exactly for the Danes. We need to talk about one thing are actually a couple of things we need to discuss kind of off-the-bat and One of them because I'm seeing the emails come in and what I'm getting either there's a couple things that must be happening Maybe we have more people listening

20:15 We've reached some kind of tipping point and it may not be necessarily good, but we're getting a lot of pushback on our big pharma reporting. And the one that I really need to address or we need to address is Bitcoin because people are mistaken what our objection has been versus what is happening and what they think is going on And I actually have an email that might help kind of kick this off. But to be very specific, we have always said we don't want to participate in Bitcoin for the way we keep this show running

21:00 Because we can't use it to pay our rent. And as long as you have to exchange this into another, into a fiat currency into dollars It is not only...it's risky! It's just risky for us because this how we live and of course people have taken that Do you hate Bitcoin? You're stupid. And now that it's, you know the so-called exchanges have put the price at $500 people are saying we're idiots were stupid We should have known better and like no this is actually proving our point So here's an email they kind of galled me a little bit I mean we were talking about the spread on the exchanges

21:50 Like the bid and ask? Yeah, there's a bid and ask spread that is way out of control. Not only that but I'd like to know people talk about you know There are no fees it is very low fee when you have Bitcoin yeah maybe if you send somebody a bitcoin But have you looked at the fees for exchanging your bitcoin into dollars 3% and of course you might have a cheaper exchange or whatever but sometimes you have to wait for your money. It's all these things that are really, really risky but here is Transito and he says... first of all it seems like he is really insulting

22:29 He says, you know, you guys don't know what your talking about. How is the spread benefiting the exchanges? Exchanges only match bids and asks of its customers! Either you sell or wait to be bought which is yeah on NASDAQ when you have an exchange which is regulated even of course even that is crooked we know that the especially with the high frequency trading but these are not regulated exchanges I took a look across some of these sites, the differences in price even. Some exchanges have it at 500 today some have it 480 some have it 520 and how was that even possible? How does that make sense? But okay

23:06 Exchange delays, says Transit O. There might have been a total of oh maybe 30 minutes of delays with Mt. Gox in the past 5 months. Uh since uh after the DDoS protection had been put in place after the crash All other exchanges never had any delays How do exchanges benefit from these delays anyway? Wow! Can I give you an idea what if people who run the exchange are playing the exchange Anyone ever think about that? No Bitcoin exchanges have had their bank accounts closed left and right for years. Their money gets seized by the government, the cost and resource required for acquiring an MSB license in every state is about 3 million dollars opening a US citizen... Opening as a U.S. citizen requires serving bitcoin exchange is actually the worst business you get into! The problem here is the governments! The governments are ruining the bitcoin experience This is the kind of emails we're getting here now Hold on Wait let me finish with the word WE

24:05 What do you mean? I don't get any of these emails. I'm sorry, is that CC'd to me? I don't think so They found a sympathetic source in you and they send you these emails. I don't get any of them Why don't you tell John that there might be something... Okay, they still send you to tell me this is it then you'll fall for this But why don't just tell these guys to get screwed? The point is Let me finish the email because This is important because there's more to this and then we can address it Why don't you tell John that there just might be something behind quote, decentralized math-based assets like Bitcoin instead of letting him repeat the whole thing is a scam and his sell to who joke. Here's my favorite I made a few million dollars... This is good joke. I made a few million dollars in part by not following your advice long time listener

25:07 I've sent you emails in the past to explain how Bitcoin is a perfect fit for donations and a value-for-value model. Still want us to use shitty PayPal? Face palm, you won't get a fucking dime from me until you enlighten the fuck up! So here's a guy who claims he made millions of dollars... Yeah yeah yeah... Has listened forever but won't donate to us because we're not enlightened But then he goes on this is my favorite stock tip You might have the chance to witness and maybe profit from a Bitcoin flash crash of 20-40% around the 18th. And then he sends a link to the coming hearings about the Silk Road and Bitcoin in the Senate But this is not unique, and these emails keep coming... People you are falling for exactly what this is

26:01 It's like a penny stock scam. You can't use Bitcoin to purchase anything! No, you can if you want to be gouged on price... it's like why would you buy something if tomorrow your bitcoin might be worth more? Well I'm not gonna do that, I'm going to hold onto my bitcoin and hopefully they'll be able to sell it when its $1000 which it will go to guaranteed But will there be a lot of people around who will take that, who will really do a huge swap for you? My joke might sell to Whojo. It's great! Yeah it's a good joke

26:43 So this is, you know it's like I'm all for... No no first of all there are these guys or these ankle biters out there that have you know they make these claims oh i've made millions or I did this and I did that which is a typical of uh of a pump-and-dump guy then they won't donate. You know if he likes to show so much That's my favorite part If he likes his show and he won't donate because we don't accept Bitcoins because that's all he's going to deal with does he do the same thing in his grocer? When he goes to buy some milk? Yeah, face palm you asshole! I'm not buying your milk until you let me buy it with bitcoins. So why should he do that if we've decided not to use bitcoin? We could have made the decision but it just seemed like... The real reason we didn't do it wasn't because of the speculation part or the fact that you can't... The real reason is because you just can't easily

27:34 move it from A to B to something useful. It's not useful, it's just a speculative vehicle. Great if you tripled your money or I feel really good about the guy who bought apparently a bunch of... I guess we could have all done this during the early days you could have bought lots of bitcoins for 45 cents or four bucks or something like that now that would've been a nice idea because you wouldn't kept them you would've dumped them along the way because you believe they went up to 20 This is a problem with all stocks when you catch them early. And so what? But to just be constantly complaining about our attitude or our thoughts on the matter, which by the way it's called freedom of speech, freedom of thought we can't think about it this way I can say do my jokes that thats bad because I have to follow the rules of the Bitcoin world! Whatever we say goes!

28:32 You know these guys if they send me one of these notes I'll just tell them to fuck off. But then, but hey wait a minute! I'm doing a show here this is entertainment to me this is important and because you know I check into this chat room we have and I can see the same people in there like boy they're gonna currying to where are going eat their words about Bitcoin what are you talking about? Because it's exactly the opposite Exactly, it is useless as a currency if the price is not stable. We've gone up 20% in less than a week! That you can... that's not a currency! That's speculative stock

29:14 This is the point I'm making and what's so sad, and this is where... There's no basis by the way. What is sad is that this is being done, maybe Bitcoin's algorithm everything maybe it's all perfectly great but it's playing into into the fears of people who actually do listen to our podcast and don't you know, don't want big government screwing around with everything and Messing with us but you'd be taking for a ride on this And then the guy who had him in your nine hundred and eighty thousand dollars in bitcoin He woke up one day. I haven't seen the story where he exchanged that for the actual money

29:57 We don't know if he did, we don't know if anyone would take that. I mean who can exchange a million dollars? Is there an exchange that will take my bitcoin and give me $1M cash? And am I still going to pay 3% on that? To exchange that money? Come on people be realistic! I think it would be interesting if the whole Bitcoin thing also had a backdoor, where all of a sudden you could just make infinite Bitcoins like instantly. It would pull the rug off... You know? The math is the math but it's like these encryption algorithms they're all corrupt there used to be I went to an RSA convention once and the first version that I think is out called TrueCrypt Is that what it was? Did they insert a back door into you there

30:44 I already have it at the back door. So they were talking about, before TrueCrypt there was this product called DriveCrypt and it had... just for the life of me can't remember the name of it, of the encryption scheme but I was told by one of the guys that RSA says you know he says the NSA doesn't want people using this one encryption scheme which was apparently developed by the Swiss banks It was called Cloud or Soma, it had a really funny name. And now they disappeared! They took it off of TrueCrypt when they brought TrueCryp out and now you get this triple DES and all these pretty common ones that may all be compromised for all you know but this other thing disappeared and I've always been kind of yeah... Ever since I was told that I thought the whole thing was fishy

31:39 There was something interesting that came up in the European Parliament. Apparently Linus Torvalds's dad is a minister of European Parliament, which I did not know and there was some conversation going on about, I think one...I guess there were a couple of companies that are there. You know, I tried to watch all this like three hours of it but didn't have enough time But they were asking Microsoft like hey you know do you have uh... Have you installed backdoors into your operating system? And by the way doesn't matter what your answer is because you're closed source and we can check it anyway so it doesn't really matter what you say but then Linus's dad said the following

32:22 That goes to the different way of asking my colleague actually almost posed a question when my oldest son was asked the same question, dude are there... I like that. I like that Finnish guy saying dude. That's kind of cool. When my oldest son was asked... Hey! That was some Finnish term. I couldn't understand dude. He actually said it. I had to listen to it a couple times he says when my oldest son was asked dude... Are there has he been approached by NSA? uh... about back doors then he's said no but at the same time in a bit because then he was sort of been to legal free yet given direct answer and everybody understood nsa had approached them you know that i'd for yeah i guess as they couldn't tell me so it is still want you to notice that police has some apparently did that linus was asked dude

33:21 Dude has the NSA ever approached you about putting a backdoor into Linux and he said No, they have not approached me while nodding his head. Yes because of course He can't see I guess he can say that or left ago Yeah, they probably come in they probably show you a piece of paper You can't say we talk to us right exactly there is something really interesting a lot of talk here in Europe which came from A New York Times, oh no I think Wall Street Journal article which the New York Times reprinted but it's not based on any leaks from Snowden. It is only based on some people who of course sources who go unnamed

34:02 Which is kind of weak because obviously we know that this is now someone trying to scratch back at the CIA Because the NSA is getting all the heat. Six minutes past the hour here We have this morning another example of the blurred lines between foreign and domestic intelligence Your personal information and your money The Wall Street Journal says a CIA is building a massive database Of international money transfers which includes millions of Americans personal and financial data. The agency is said to be building the database under the same provision of the Patriot Act that enables the NSA to collect American's phone records, and authorized by the secret National Security Court. There you go!

34:45 So that's kind of trying to make the CIA look bad. The Europeans are not liking this report at all because, of course they now know that basically the CIA is building up a transactional database that includes European transactions Well that reminds me because of that letter, you know they're not only going after the CIA or whoever it is. They are attacking Brennan with that... You saw the letter I'm sure? Yeah oh yeah the one about Benghazi where uh.. Yeah so did anybody have to sign non-disclosures now we know that them Benghazi people that were there that they shuttled off to Buffalo and we can't find them First in Germany! They were in Germany for like six months Yeah and then they made him sign nondisclosures so he couldn't say what was going on which as

35:30 always believed from the very beginning that it was a scam based on the hostage situation with the Iranians back in the late seventies. We should probably just reiterate that briefly This was a botched kidnapping, which was... this is our theory from what we've understood. Which was put in place to ensure President Barack Obama's re-election with a rerun of the Iranian hostage script from Reagan and actually got there was something else that came out that report

36:08 And this is funny because it plays right into our theory, our thesis which we've kind of gleaned from multiple sources. Apparently attackers had inside information they knew... here it is... the attackers had knowledge of almost everything in the compound for example they knew where the gasoline was and you were the generators were then you are the safe room was a new more than they should have known about that compound yeah If you're being sent in to do a job. Yeah, you gotta know what your doing. So the uh... oops!

36:47 Brennan writes no, he did not. And of course now there's a big scandal and what I thought was interesting though this is Mike Rogers memo so that he was in on this and then i guess i don't know if you told Brennan to do this but Brennan... Did you see Brennan scribbling at the bottom of this thing? Yeah! We are NOT going to tolerate anyone not working closely and cooperating with the committee This guy is the new Cheney as far as I'm concerned He doesn't even have a vice president title but he ran and yeah i think these are these like a nice totally gaining guys creepy she had he's funny so uh... they had that this came out in an hour is a big sp you know kerfuffle over there where all you said you lied to me these guesses apparently it is all they do now cinema memo is religious bullshit yet at least committees are useless have the problem again for the problem is a very good committees are scripted b bpm the public

37:45 It's just getting hit with, oh this guy lied. He lied and then your eyes start to glaze over it's like oh well yeah whatever I'm sure they lied and then what nobody cares but This is true In the morning for you John Cena Morris Well in the morning for you Adam Curry And I also want to say in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there which could be anywhere. and uh... what did you have to say i was going to say in the morning to everyone in the chat room who showed up once again regardless of time zone they're all there from their respective fema regions around the universe

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44:12 So I guess he wants to do a new Make It Rain. And i think what's going on here is there are some guys, I'm not sure if Gene is one of them they really get a kick out of giving us their ex-wives or ex girlfriends names so that you can then announce them on stage apparently that's pretty funny To Them! So I guess he wants you to make it rain for Katya Yeah, I got a little script ready. Oh okay when do we do that? We do that in our full donation? That's at 111. It's the regular one so you don't have to do it twice and then now they'll do it again And that's it for today right yeah, that's it. That's all we got. Four loan... People help us out for Thursday show please. Devorac dot org slash N A Of course! You can always go out and propagate The Formula Our formula is this

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46:48 alright sorry i'm sitting here now what are you scribbling some notes? What are you doing man? I am scribbling notes. Okay uh... we have a bunch of interesting sub little news items floating around um... I don't know what I want to get to right away the one child policy in china has been backed off they're supposed to close chinese labor camps actually let's play this clip this is the closure, this was from Deutsche Welle And there, what's funny about this clip is the guy who reports from China. The two people in the studio are cracking up at this character because he has got this really incredible and odd German deep voice with a German accent

47:33 But for some reason, and I was looking at this the lips are synced fine on the show but this guy seems to be saying one thing and something else is coming out of his mouth. And these two anchors have a hard time...and believe me I had a hard time not cracking up! But when you hear the guys voice you go..this is very strange voice but this is a report on there supposedly uh...I didn't know this was going as much as it is in China but I am almost under the opinion that this is going on here too Uh, which uh... clip are we- Chinese labor camps to be closed. They also decided to abolish China's system of reeducation labor camps where tens of thousands of people are interned without trial Wait a minute! This is what the FEMA camps were all about? This is great

48:20 They have FEMA camps in China? Initially set up to punish critics of the Communist Party, the camps are often used by officials to imprison people who challenge their authority. The reform has been welcomed by activists but there's been no announcement on when it will take effect All right, for some analysis we can talk to Matthias von Hain. He's head of Deutsche Welle's China desk and we want to start with the camps how do you evaluate that announcement? Well, it seems China is taking steps in the right direction even though it's as yet unclear how far it is moving in the end. Even though it has been around for more than five decades, the re-education through labor is not even compatible to Chinese legal standards. You know what he is? He's a German puker!

49:14 That's what he is. Yeah, there is a little bit of that I think that's getting to him He might have been a disc jockey at one point? Well when you look at him his face doesn't match his voice and his lips don't match what he saying And he just like... What the...? We are talking about the system that allows police to send people to labor camps without any trial Without any ruling over judge Close to 200,000 people are locked up in the so-called reeducation through labor camps right now. Often because of minor offenses like drug possession or prostitution but anybody can be locked up who is in the eyes of police disturbing public order

49:54 By the way, it's not the first time that re-education through labor system has been promised to be abolished. There have been similar demands already in 2007." Interesting. Yeah and they showed the people and they were out in the fields and making farms... I guess there are labor camps! But that's what we kind of do, and now we have all these private prisons. The private prison companies are trying to legislate, get people to legislate so they put people in jail with three strikes laws just to keep them in jail so they can exploit them I think also...I read a report that some cities are taking their homeless and putting them into camps on the outskirts of town

50:43 Nice! Yeah, so that yeah I have to look for that report. That was a couple weeks ago it's like okay but you know we didn't talk about it because not you know homeless place no one cares about the homeless No, not at all So they had the spy hearings in the UK with the CBGBs guy The BGs the beejies guy and who's the head of the uh... you know their equivalency g q p what i can't remember this well i think it's a never get at the right order ccg is huge issues that lgbtq anyway they have a big round building yeah and then they had in my six guys and had the m i five guy who just wasn't saying anything to see didn't need to

51:35 and we did learn that they're very upset because they are convinced well here's the report you can hear it here. They insisted Al-Qaeda is having a field day with the leaked information It was their first joint appearance before lawmakers, the heads of domestic and foreign intelligence agencies MI5 & MI6 and electronic surveillance agency GCHQ told the committee they were struggling to thwart terrorism in the age of the internet This means that we have to anticipate, discover, analyse investigate and respond. And we have to do so globally because the threat is coming at us globally. GCHQ gathers and processes vast amounts of internet and telephone data originating in the UK and abroad The agency head said the information leaked by Edward Snowden had made their work more difficult By changing the behaviour of the terrorist groups they monitor

52:28 What I can tell you is that the leaks from Snowden have been very damaging. They put our operations at risk, it's clear that our adversaries are rubbing their hands with glee The recent spying allegations involving the British Embassy in Berlin were not discussed. When asked about spying on Britain's allies, Sowers said MI6 operated in very few countries and its priorities were set by the government. Everything we do is authorised by ministers. Thursdays hearing will be followed by further sessions both public and private. Yeah...

53:07 So, it's interesting to me that these guys are... One guy says they're after us globally. We have to do this because it is a global threat Do you remember the era? You were maybe living in the UK during... well maybe not, you were probably still in Holland but there was period I guess it was in 80s and 90s where IRA was just bombing their crap out of London Oh yeah! Absolutely I'm trying to think now. It was on a regular basis and I was in London what do it was trash can the trash cans were blowing up and it was yeah bombs everywhere Yeah, it was bad And there what they didn't have the you know the slogan at the time but essentially But it would seem like in those days it was much more about vigilance and not it was more like hey We're British because I was living in the Netherlands at the time

54:06 it was you know we're british and we're not going to do we didn't like that the crowds take us down in a second world war and we're gonna keep our eyes out no one's gonna blow us up and something else somehow that is turned around now too anyone of us might be the guy you know i think this is considered as you know i did bring collective were not quite what let me say i don't have any one of them could've been the guide to there's no difference ever been but that would also mean more action There was bombs constantly. I was in London once when there was a bomb thing because I had the, it's you and me and the kids we wanted to go to Henley or whatever it is called that big toy store downtown couldn't go there because the whole air was cordoned off cause somebody had blown something up You mean Harrods? No no, Harrods is the department story It's called Henleys or Hensleys its a pure toy store like

54:58 you know one of those puritory stories, I think it's Hensley's. So somebody will know whatever the case that we couldn't go there because it was a big deal and all this cops are all over the place and this was going on routinely we've had well how many how routine is this what especially because that wasn't attacked by just the Irish Republican Army now according to this guy from CBGB he says It's a global thing. They're all trying to kill us they're trying to kill us from Pakistan They're trying to kill us from Indonesia. They're trying to kill us from everywhere Yeah, but where's all these bombs? Well this is this is the new talking point and Mike Rogers is right on that tip it's it's a little longer this clip but he's essentially saying that we in America are now worse off than

55:46 than before 9-11 because of this. And exactly for this, because they're coming from everywhere! They're propped up everywhere there's lone wolves everywhere A reinvented Al Qaeda and a man some call the new Bin Laden Does it get any better John? The new bin laden everybody stand by One lawmaker says they are posing the biggest terror threat to US homeland in more than decade CNN's Brian Todd is working on story for us today Brian what do you finding out how concerned should we be I think pretty concerned, Jim. I spoke with US officials and to the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee today He has got a really chilling warning Mike Rogers says Al Qaeda poses a bigger threat to attack inside the U.S right now than it did before 9-11 And it's the smaller scale attacks he says that are the real danger

56:34 They've become the new faces of terrorism against America. Umar Farooq Abdulmutallab, the failed airline underwear bomber. Nidal Hassan, the Fort Hood shooter guided in ideology by Al Qaeda Now a jarring assessment from the threat from al-Qaeda to launch an attack inside the US from House Intelligence Committee Chair Mike Rogers. Now let's just pause for a second here this Mike Rogers guy has to be stopped I mean, he is an idiot. He has no idea what he's talking about whenever it's something that we actually understand certainly when it comes to what he classifies as cyber And he's all he is doing is spreading fear amongst people. Meanwhile, we have clip after clip week after week of him sitting down on some panel with commercial guys and he's talking about yeah we gotta get around these laws through so you guy can get the contracts I'm paraphrasing of course but this guy has to be stopped I am actually calling him corrupt

57:32 different attitude and more affiliates trying to commit acts of violence in the United States. To me, that makes the threat much worse against the United States today than it was even before 9-11. Worse than before September 11th? A US official also tells CNN the threat from Al Qaeda affiliates has grown They've set up in unstable countries in Africa and the Middle East where they get safe haven Their leaders are encouraging smaller-scale attacks by lone wolves more than ever before, Rogers says. And they have the means. Some of the Al Qaeda affiliates have better connections to the West meaning they can get good paper to go to Europe and to get to the United States

58:12 And what is this new meme, this good paper meme? Have you heard of it? I like it though. By the way one of the reporters got a quote from Sato, wow because we have increased our security to two or three fold We've got all these guys listening in on everything Are you saying that maybe we should disband all this cause its not working? Are you saying that the security mechanism's not working Is that what your saying? But wait John Don't even stop there because wait until he gives you the examples of these horrible terrorists. These small groups of terrorists are more likely to make mistakes, experts say but they're also harder to detect because of that Rogers says this is not the time to scale back NSA surveillance as many in Congress want after the spying scandal Because it's working well we're on the right track! We are talking about reducing the tools adding more risk that were going to miss something

59:06 The mastermind of the small attack strategy? An article in the National Journal points to a Syrian Al-Qaeda operative named Abu Musab al-Suri. Al Suri, write it down! You've already talked about al Suri... Yeah but this is new, this is the new Bin Laden, al Suri We haven't talked about him being the new bin Laden John No well that's true that's a new thing Al Suri whom it calls the next Bin Laden When CNN national security analyst Peter Bergen and a CNN team interviewed Osama Bin Laden in 1997... Hold on a second, stop. Can you back up just a little bit? Yeah of course Now this guy who's giving the report why is he so worked-up and talking fast And he seems excitable Because he's getting to talk to Mike Rogers You know his royalty

59:53 He's promoting he's promoting the message cadence is p Syrian al-qaeda operative named Abu Musab Al Suri house, so it calls the next bin Laden Yeah when CNN national security analyst Peter Bergen and a CNN team interviewed Osama bin Laden in 1997 It was all surrey who escorted them to the al Qaeda leader in Afghanistan. They had a brush with greatness Bergen calls Al Suri intellectual and dangerous. He was inspired, you know talking about inspiring lone wolf attacks and basically you know he his vision was of a loose network of jihadis that weren't part of an organization that could be easily detected or rolled up So wait a minute so this guy met with Bin Laden and al-Suri in did he say in 98 is that what he said? 97

1:00:48 Wow, this guy should be writing a book. And that's very much like what we've got now... Don't you think this is a little fishy? Let me think. But Bergen says Abu Musab al-Suri is not the next bin Laden He says al-Suri does not have the leadership skills, charisma or ability to marshal assets like the late Al Qaeda leader. Oh okay! Well this is a problem We have one guy saying No and thats NO to Mike Rogers Yes That's maybe why he is so excited. I cut the report off here, but they were talking about the underwear bomber being an example

1:01:26 I go, okay. We're doomed! The Fort Hood shooter was another example of a lone wolf These are the guys this is who's gonna do it all What i would like to propose though as I'm getting emails from companies who have seen that my email was amongst the 3 million emails that were compromised with passwords at Adobe's fantastic system their cloud service and a registration service. I'm getting emails from them but also... Wait, wait, wait! Hold on hold on a minute Are you did you telling me that you joined the Adobe Cloud? No But i bought it for Miss Mickey who needs uh the most recent versions for her artwork And she didn't provide her own name and you did it all for her It was a Christmas gift Oh That's why I bought it for her The Adobe Cloud Was that available before Christmas?

1:02:22 Oh yeah. I mean this Christmas? This Christmas, no. Okay. That's sweet! Anyway, I keep getting emails the FBI is now warning that you should change all your passwords everywhere and the government itself and now has a huge problem internally because they use Adobe and all, you know the certainly the PDF product which it has all kinds of crazy stuff in there. And I question Adobe in general with their OmniTure product which tracks everything you do

1:02:58 But why is it that the CBGBs and the NSA, and all this fantastic work that all these government operatives are doing. Why can they not stop these ransomware guys? Why is this impossible? Is it so hard to track down who's doing this? I'm reminded of the, uh... that's always found this kind of fishy myself. i think everybody is baffled by it because it doesn't really make any sense and well let's go to less while we're on that topic might as well go to this story which is related when you go back to this okay i have the uh... i think i got this from either Deutsche Welle or I like that I am in Europe and your watching Deutsche Welle. That's kinda cool. Well I don't know. I can get anything else

1:03:45 Or it may have been fan cat, but whatever. This is the complete child porn story this is a European report of it and I never heard the whole story before and they had a bunch of good clips It's so long but its very interesting But it brings up The same kind of question you just asked And it actually baffling, it brings more questions than answers and we'll explain when we get to end To Canada now, where police say they have broken up one of the largest child pornography rings ever seen. Close to 350 people have been arrested around the world in an investigation that took three years. Authorities said they were able to rescue more than 300 children from abuse and exploitation

1:04:33 Police in Australia arrested 65 men as part of the global child pornography bust. The operation that began in Canada three years ago is one of the largest investigations of its kind. Huge quantities of videos and photos of children being sexually abused and or exploited have been seized in countries around the world. The child victims identified in this operation numbered over 300 These 300 children have had their lives altered forever. The images of them become a permanent record of the sexual abuse of a child In this operation, the victims were all prepubescent with some as young as 5 years of age

1:05:17 The child pornography ring was centered in Toronto, Canada and run by a 42-year old man who sold abuse videos and photos online. Police said the man paid various people to film children for the purpose of creating material for sale on his website. Of concern to investigators was the number of people that had close contact with children The arrests included 40 school teachers, 9 doctors and nurses 32 people who volunteered with children 6 law enforcement personnel, nine pastors or priests and three foster parents. The website was set up in 2005 and earned its owner almost 3 million euros He has been charged with child pornography offenses and running a criminal organization Okay

1:06:07 Okay, so here we go. Let me just throw a couple of these deals out here and this relates to this other issue of why they can't stop the ransomware and makes you wonder about everything The investigation has been going on for three whole years. It started in the year 2000, I mean it started in 2010 because 2013 now this website was in business since 2005 so went on for five whole years without anybody batting an eye and they showed images from the site and essentially this guy sold craploads of DVDs, I don't think it was a download thing but there's a lot of DVDs. It was a catalog and it was all kind with the little they showed that the little...I'm Jamie and my daddy and my mommy don't live together anymore and I don't understand why? I don't think that's fair is some bullshit

1:06:55 thing that gets you to, I don't know what the point of it is or why anyone would buy these. But it was going on for five years then it took three years once they figured out this was going on they actually come in to get 300 customers they never named a man's name The Man! A man who was running this site This man... Who? What? Why can we get his name he has been arrested This thing is so weird. And only 300 customers? Over... this thing's been going on for 8 years?! Are you kidding me? Yeah, no this is clearly because in my experience what I have learned in my research which as I did many years ago here in the Netherlands. Is that government people in the goverment and justice departments are usually complicit And this is the problem This has been going on inside these departments We have examples of this in United States as well

1:07:54 and I'm sure other countries, actual news reports. And that's how things get stifled and they hire people who have the same disability because these things feed from generation to generation. These people are sick and need help, the government is failing everybody in this case. I'm surprised it was only a couple of people in child protective services or foster parents but no surprise that its teachers no surprise that... It's all people with authority They always kind of skip the ones in government. Right, Joris Demink in the Netherlands it looks like a judge finally said you know hey we will elect now that he's retired and people have been talking this was the highest guy in the Justice Department in the Netherlands

1:08:43 Finally a judge is saying, yeah we should probably open up some files and investigate this guy and let some people come forward and testify against him. Yeah, well see what happens but it's a protection racket And the whole thing is corrupt from beginning to end It has been going on for a long long time So yeah its obvious why no one gets named and nothing really happens They bag 300 people and okay it all done with Nothing else to see here Yeah, the guy made three million dollars and 300 people that do the math on it. That also makes no sense. That makes no sense. I'm sure his numbers are different too. Three million euros by the way which is more like four and a half million dollars. So this is like

1:09:31 Very typical and so they can whereas the world these a despise agencies and all these guys who got all the phone numbers And I'll leave the NSA the five eyes Canada's part of the deal. They should have been all over this in 2006 if the guy opened shop in 2005 Why did it take eight years to finally finish the investigation when we have all these, the agencies of the NSA is turning people into IRS? That's no problem. The NSA is turning drug dealers over to DEA that's no problem! But they can't do anything about this sort of thing or one step further they can't do anything about this extortion where which probably because we've got a lot of the extortion is in that to be paid in bitcoin I might point out the only reason bitcoin is handy to have. Is that right? Yeah, oh yeah! That's... The new extortion wear

1:10:26 forces you to pay them in Bitcoin and shows you where you can exchange your money for Bitcoin. Oh yeah, believe me it's part of it I haven't really delved into it but I'm sure that's part of it and the beauty is that people reporting whether its true or not probably is but I was watching this week in Windows something rather whatever and it feeds upon itself because the reports are, oh yeah you've got to do this. They'll destroy your keys your shit's gone into your drive blows up so that so the promotion is built right into it but it is the bitcoin is a part of this uh... is a part of this its no longer, you know, you gotta send a bitcoin to this address which of course is anonymous but they give you instructions on how you can exchange dollars or euros for Bitcoin I think thats uh...

1:11:20 Well, they should be taking put a stop to by just shutting down the whole Bitcoin thing. Which I'm sure they're trying to do and I expect it to happen eventually. I don't think so...I think the opposite John! I don't think that at all. I think it's too beautiful. Let me open up the red book on this one! You can shut down Bitcoin thats' the first thing you can shut down exchanges and where you exchange Bitcoin for usable currency But shutting down Bitcoin itself, I don't think that's possible. You can make it illegal to use Bitcoin!

1:11:58 Yeah, of course. You can make lots of things illegal but it's like drugs you can't actually stop people from buying selling and using drugs that has been proven that just doesn't work I know but the drugs thing has a different sociology mechanism than Bitcoin there are geeks and nerds who use bitcoin or try to because they think its useless have a different mindset. I can't wait to see the subreddit, I can't wait to see the resubreddit. Adam at curry.com I'll take all your email there You should sometimes I'll see this stuff happen and you can just go to the bit reddit.com slash r slash Bitcoin hi, I said I and you can just receive what it says like look at these two idiots These are these fuck wads that's the guy who said the mouse would never amount to anything Just so you know

1:12:59 washed, washed up MTVVJ and the guy who said the mouse would amount to nothing yeah these jabronis you can't listen to them they don't know what they're talking about stupid podcast Yeah, that's pretty much it. That's what you have to deal with. That's pretty much it right? That's why we love the donations is to prove them wrong! That's why we are... The best podcast in the universe! By the way I want to thank who was our producer who was very very kind. The only one by the way as far as I know. Oops going the wrong way here Tyler

1:13:46 Who sent us he had just heard the show and sent us a flurry of emails Oh, man. I got this PowerShell script and figured it out we can yeah use it to vote 4,000 times like it was like two hours left for voting Really have to get the hold of Tyler about a month before next year's show. Yeah set up about 25 of these things Just bomb but we have no chance John We have we are we have no I think if we had if we have enough people that will set up the script and run it overnight I won't feel good about that. I'm not gonna I don't care

1:14:25 Let me tell you how I feel about it. Okay, please! Here's my story... So we had there was a used to be the at Comdex you said this famous chili cook-off and the initial chili cook off yeah Yeah, the first chili cook off I won They had professional judges and my chili was, one because this chili was a little... it was not a standard. It was better tasting chilies is the reason of one and the professional judges recognized it for what it wasn't very good And I do have a recipe that I distribute out put in the next newsletter

1:15:04 So the Chile guys, the competitors mostly one guy from Texas who is also a columnist was pissed about this. He demanded that they have the judging have a People's Choice Award because he believed that people were over at his booth telling him what a great chili he made and since it was Texas, you know what chili was. And I went from California... But the judges of course were stupid and didn't know what they were talking about Yeah so the next year they had the professional judges and they had the People's Choice Awards and everybody who got into the event They had three coins and they could go around tasting chili and drop a coin to the buckets

1:15:45 So I hired two models that were showgirls to control... Wait a minute, let's back up for second. So you're in Vegas and like, I'm going to win this do then go to a Vegas theater or do you go to a strip club to find these? Where did you find the girls? Modeling agencies You called them modeling agency? Yeah Okay So I hired two gorgeous six-foot showgirls and had them in show girl regalia. They were pretty, but also had them... And the joke of it of course at the very end... Well anyway so i had to girls at the booth and they were and also greeting when people came in. She said oh you should vote for Dvorak! You should throw all your coins into Dvorak's pot

1:16:32 and so they just, you know sweet-talk people into voting for my chili for People's Choice Award. Right! Which of course I won and i had the two girls arm in arm escort me up the steps to accept the award. I am googling now is there any evidence of this? Are there any pictures of you and the showgirls? There are... A lot of people talked it was a little buzz about it but I'll tell you this The guy from Texas and other people who even know what I'm talking about about. The guy from Texas was just livid, because it was his idea! I wouldn't have won that year, that's the joke. The chilies... they had changed the judging a little bit and I realized when I tasted all the chilies that had won by the professional judges that i did not

1:17:14 amp up the ancho flavor because apparently whoever these judges were they just love the flavor of ancho which is a certain chili that has a very distinct taste. It's completely in chili but I won the People's Choice Award so that's how i feel about these things okay well then I have an idea instead of getting all these scripts running next time why don't we just hire two girls and we'll have them, you know we'll set up a sequence where for every vote every time you vote and you have to send us your proof of voting and you can go back every single day or for every 1,000 votes or whatever it is they will take off a piece of clothing and post the picture

1:17:56 Hey, that compared to bots. That idea is not gonna get it get the job done I like it We'll come in from both sides coming with the pots coming with the girls can't lose Coming with the box will come on with the girls we're gonna rock it Yeah, wouldn't be funny if we actually won this year just regardless We're not gonna win. Yeah, it's not going to happen because we don't have bots and girls! Well let me write that down... Bots and Girls That could be the title Not bad Yeah, well, BOTS AND GIRLS

1:18:35 I'm watching CNN over here just to move along to something else. I am seeing Anderson Cooper on the ground there which is now being classified as the super typhoon, which is interesting. We love the word super! Kale by the way is super food! Did you see Molly Wood tweeted about some gin that was derived or some gin that was soaked in kale which she calls Super Booze? Now your making me nauseous because I have got to finish this show and it's only 1030. Don't puke yet So I'm seeing Anderson Cooper over there, I'm seeing reports on the ground. There's multiple CNN personalities there and if you watch the coverage you'll see without fail they are standing in the shot with a whole stack of pallets of USAID stuff etc., and the count now is at 3,000 people The president came out, i got a nice email from the White House We have committed $20 million

1:19:29 And I know how you love doing math, John. $20 million we've committed to helping these poor people in the Philippines which of course is conveniently located right there in the Sea of China which is strategically a great place to be We've run that country before it's not bad being there Now let me ask you this question If we are committing 20 million, I'm going to presume that encompasses all aid. And maybe it'll go up, maybe we'll add another you know twenty thirty to the mix let's just say fifty million How much does it cost? To have the USS George Washington aircraft carrier which costs 27 billion dollars Which has I think 5 thousand people on it

1:20:17 How much, how much do you think it would I'm just did the numbers. I think it would probably take about 12 hours of that aircraft carrier sitting there doing whatever it is to reach the twenty million dollar goal. Not very long... There isn't, this is, this is... Are they maybe they're including that money? That's all of them they are not given anything and that's the monies also keeping aircraft running. This is bull crap of epic proportions we are there because its a great opportunity to put, no just the George Washington, theres a couple other ships, their support ships are there This is a very nasty thing we're doing and essentially just thumbing our nose at China. Hey, here we are! We were in Japan... What are you guys doing now? We're a little closer how ya doin'?

1:21:13 This is just disgusting and of course everyone's going to know that. Do we have a benefit yet for them? Have we done this? This by the way, is exactly what happened with the earthquake in Haiti! We sent I don't know if it was George Washington... Right, we had a couple boats over there too. Yep, we had the aircraft carrier, we had everybody running in USAID, billions of dollars raised. We had not one not two but we three presidents, ladies and gentlemen. Three presidents who are asking things like we just need cash I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water Just send your cash And then at the end of the day what do we have? 300 thousand people with poop disease living in tents

1:21:55 and this is not... Yeah, nobody will fess up and pay the bill on the cholera outbreak that was caused by the United Nations. No one they won't even admit to it? Even though they know it's true and has been documented but damn... So this it's disgusting to see so basically we can just Haiti is a lost cause. As much as I've been harping on this for years, we're just going to have to put that by the wayside because it's what it is. You could harp on it for another decade! They're still not going to get any of that money instead of the blankets and all the people who texted $10 bucks. That was just a waste... good work. That's already happening, by the way. We have seen the text things and

1:22:40 Our advice is not to send any money to the International Red Cross, which is always what the White House always recommends. I don't like that at all because they always take... and it's same with Haiti! We have these numbers we've discussed if they take the money and say oh no this you know it's a general fund. Yeah general fund so we'll help out don't worry will do something And I feel bad but wow shit happens people Yeah, well shit in the case of cholera for sure. It really does happen. Terrible yeah all right so what other little mini rants do we have for today? Well let's talk about you being over there but we kind of dropped the ball on this what are you seeing in the streets Adam what are you seeing in the streets can you give us a report? Yeah John I can give your report like a lot of people here is what I'm seeing in the streets of Gitmo Nation Lowlands first of all it is very cold here and its grey

1:23:42 are out. Of course we arrived Saturday so we had to buy a couple things, like some stuff for breakfast. So he went out and people are... it's gray? People are not happy But I've also noticed that people do not recognize your presence or anyone else's presence. Of course, I live in Texas which is different where people say howdy when you see them on the street even if you don't know them. Hat tips actually exist in Texas But here yes, that's true in fact. It's like an interesting contrast to New York where if you went around like that Especially with a woman she'd either slap you or shoot you yeah more accuse your rape exactly Yeah, we're saying she's not harassing me. Yeah I'm not a hooker so here People are depressed I think there was this recent study that shows that the Netherlands is the most depressed country in the European Union There's a lot of problems with joblessness

1:24:43 uh... hundred uh... boom possibly hundreds of jenna the publishing sector is the big news here they are firing people in publishing jobs left and right and these poor people cannot get work do not anything up now well i think that while on a start my own blog you know worst-case worse thing happened was when andrew who's sullivan who had a huge blog following any word for the atlantic for awhile then he read went back to blogging and he always got on the Mars show, he had a lot of... He would real high what is that? It used to be rating. They used to give people for knowing you. Comscore or whatever. I know but it was just be the M or E or some crazy thing. So he...

1:25:25 He decides to go and start his own thing, and he's made like $700,000 in subscriptions which should sustain him at about... He thinks he is going to make a million. I don't know if he is ever going to get that far but... Wait! He by himself has made 700 thousand dollars? in subscriptions yeah strong like wow he's did it a different you know he went he had a big audience to begin with he made me gets lots of publicity for what is trying to do lots of it all the news people are covering it always remain which draws more attention to him and his descriptions like 20 by his I get magazine subscription and also produces a lot of copy he's not a slow

1:26:02 which the you got to have a lot about put for that but i do work no doubt to have to have a lot output you have to add has to be compelling you get this like our show we would get zero donations if the show was in compelling it was just one of the typical podcast was really is boring as no jingles and then the ones that people normally vote for Yeah, the ones that will win the awards. So anyway he makes that much and I think it'll be sustaining...I don't think its gonna get bigger but probably because the model hes using I believe will make him about $500-600 thousand dollars a year for at least a number of years until he gets tired of it

1:26:41 Or, or maybe he'll just keep growing. I mean you know if he keeps going like that if he can hit the mainstream from time to time... It's a possibility he could make millions it's... The problem with me is not that he's making so much money but its allure to idiots who think they can do this Right There will be alot of people who say well if Andrew Sullivan can make 600 dozen I'm better than here it's funny it's funny you say that because I was watching the they have Sunday talk shows here in the Netherlands as well which are you know but not like Candy Crowley and all that but this year to kind of like there some political stuff but it's really the intelligent people stay home Sunday morning John and watch the intelligent talk shows. And so they had two

1:26:02 which the you got to have a lot about put for that but i do work no doubt to have to have a lot output you have to add has to be compelling you get this like our show we would get zero donations if the show was in compelling it was just one of the typical podcast was really is boring as no jingles and then the ones that people normally vote for Yeah, the ones that will win the awards. So anyway he makes that much and I think it'll be sustaining...I don't think its gonna get bigger but probably because the model hes using I believe will make him about $500-600 thousand dollars a year for at least a number of years until he gets tired of it

1:26:41 Or, or maybe he'll just keep growing. I mean you know if he keeps going like that if he can hit the mainstream from time to time... It's a possibility he could make millions it's... The problem with me is not that he's making so much money but its allure to idiots who think they can do this Right There will be alot of people who say well if Andrew Sullivan can make 600 dozen I'm better than here it's funny it's funny you say that because I was watching the they have Sunday talk shows here in the Netherlands as well which are you know but not like Candy Crowley and all that but this year to kind of like there some political stuff but it's really the intelligent people stay home Sunday morning John and watch the intelligent talk shows. And so they had two

1:27:23 Publishers from two magazines, one from the leftist Volkskrant which is the people's newspaper that has been around forever. uh... very intelligent newspaper and they had a guy who started quote magazine which is kind of aim uh... are rancid forbes type thing where it's all about you know rich people essentially in their cars and there have been there watches and they've been named uh... produced the that there could be more than with the ritualist just that they produce the the richest the quote five hundred which i've been on many times enough left my ass off about

1:28:02 Because I don't deserve to be anywhere near the numbers they talk about ever in my life, even when i had money. So it's bullshit but doesn't matter because people eat that up and they love it And these guys, of course their magazine... Their newspaper and their magazine are doing okay. So they're almost gloating although they weren't really doing it but they were saying things like well you know yes this is happening it's very normal that we have to get rid of all these a lot of these magazines there's no existence because the internet has won! All the money will follow to the iPads and iPhones This is where the advertising money will go! I'm like No its not

1:28:39 That's not... you know, anyone can be a publisher. Anyone could have a radio station! Anyone could have a TV station! No it's not like that. It's just not. Wait, no. You-you-anyone CAN be a publisher. Oh yeah but not- Anyone CAN do a podcast But not make money Well that's different. They were talking specifically about how advertising euros was going to follow this. He is chasing all this inventory! Well, advertising is not the future on the internet I'm sorry it just not the future It's not Why would that be? Maybe because its bull crap? That these pages are bull crap and there are bots that will vote for us next year The bots will be out there with all of those different IP addresses

1:29:27 Oh, did I lose you? Tyler's BOTS. It sounds like some Civil War thing! It's the Tyler's BOTS and so Tyler's bots are gonna go out and vote us in and there is not going to be any way they can catch it because they're gonna be coming from everywhere and there is no evidence of anything... I like Tyler's Bot as a brand. Tyler's Bots yeah we could do business with Tyler. Tyler's Bots everybody Tyler's bots. I just lost you for a second there, what was going on? Oh that's not good. No it could be me, i don't know Well let see we've been an hour and an hour and half almost yeah You know what speaking of Tylers bots why dont we do this? Im gonna show my support by donating to no agenda Imagine all the people who can do that oh yeah that'd be fab

1:30:17 since the list is short anyway john we might as well do it but we do get to start off with some coolness don't we? who is in Fountain, Colorado. He didn't give us a woman to and he didn't say much about making it rain so we don't have a name for him we do have Uma and Mercedes and Katya coming up on the stage! Guys and Dolls get ready! The two sexiest Texans

1:30:59 on stage one and two please. I don't like it. Don't intercreated equal give it up for Oopla and Mercedes! I'm sorry do that one again we lost you ready yeah hold on get this the second one right by killing my microphone limiter go,go,go is good oh it's yes now? Yeah hit it Coming over the main stage direct from st. Petersburg Russia the naughty nurse dr. Katya She likes her puppies adorable and their men drunk guys, you know what to do order a beer and give it up for job I Do my Mercedes again just so we have it that was really good. I like that

1:31:49 Get ready for the two hotties from West Texas! Uma and Mercedes, they like to ride horseback bareback. The goal minute created equal give it up for Mercedes and Uma stage one and two. All right um over modulation was spot on this time good work yeah well I need something to work on so i can get a fall back Uh, yeah. Yeah I didn't have any echo for you this time but we'll have it... We're working on it! It's in progress but I think the scripts really make it work Alright let's see what we got here from Mike

1:32:33 Mike Mugla from he sent a note in I read some of it because he sent it and you actually went through the trouble sending a check. Thanks for your courage all the time an effort you place into The Greatest Podcasts In The Universe including a much-needed pen for John give me a veterans a pin, the pen is resolved another group that gets in message across by hitting our military members in they head just remember that the pen is mightier than the sword but not so much against the drone He wants to know if there's a port number that can become a donation amount. It's not a port number, but I think he is talking about a point A donation amount to support our Freddy the Firewall No no i think he is talking about a port number absolutely That makes alot of sense What? Oh so no The Port 8800 Yeah So if we had Boys and Girls it's Freddy the Firewall Remember to keep Port 800

1:33:26 Something like that. We'll let the producers of the program decide which port Freddie the Firewall should do. There's another dying initiative I say... You know, um, the only thing we should do John is just uh you're cutting up a little bad here let me just mean we might want to uh let me just see i have technical call info let me see if it's you or if it's me yeah we got packet loss man received i'm receiving packet loss from ya I shouldn't be getting any off of this connection. Hey, who knows what's going on here? It's the Airbnb Wi-Fi! Anyway... What? You're on Wi-Fi Yeah Well what else do you think I'm doing? They got my hardware? Wait until Thursday show ladies and gentlemen i'm gonna be in Orlando Florida on wi-fi This will be good for a challenge yeah And we're doing are we doing the show earlier on thursday just for good measure? Yes, one or two hours earlier

1:34:21 Okay, because we're actually turns out it's it. We didn't start at 7 here the Day like saving time has synced up with the EU and the United States So it said oh there we go that was a good one It seems like will be doing it maybe at 4 p.m.. Get mo nation lowlands time which would be uh... or time of that the and there's a seven am get my nation west on ten a m get monation east yes something else has not been all right i will tweet about it for sure just so no one gets screwed up so we have christopher harry in munich

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1:36:45 I think it's pronounced or Machi, Machi or Mechie? Machi. Machi. Mach-i Prochowski from Stade Deutschland and he's ridiculing me for my pronunciation. They call him Mayseal or something so i'm i think it's machay dear Hanny and Nanny let me say thank you for your courage you tried and failed catastrophically! You butchered my name beyond any rescue even by our good German medical care My cousin almost died laughing. I had to wait 10 days to hear it for myself. Carl and Tra- yeah, well you just heard it. Ma-chay! Ma-chay! Carl and Tracy...

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1:40:59 it says here husband CLWNSHO not sure what it means but happy birthday and Grant McCarran celebrating on uh we're celebrating November 9th. Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe! We really do our best with this, we really try um but most of our time is spent doing other things I have some slave training stuff I'd like to discuss. I think I teased it on Thursday this is common core? Before, yeah we definitely need to talk about that but before we do can i mention one more thing from Mike in Colorado he's had it on his note because I thought this was great if he says it should be a red book entry but it should be his red book entry cuz he just he's streaming it up this is an interesting

1:41:56 possibility. To support Hillary Clinton's run for president, DC Comics will finally get to release Wonder Woman movie in the summer of 2016. The web is covered with failed attempts to get this movie made but could see a strong female superhero feed into the public before the election interesting so you think that actually is a good idea I think it's not only of your Hillary's campaign absolutely it's a great idea we and of course it make her look a little like Hillary well it's funny because there's No, she'll never fly. She'll never take off I don't care what kind of cape you have That will never work there was um there was something interesting Was it the war on women Warren men thing? Of course, you know This is really going to start heating up as we have more and more news about women and and almost anti-men As we ramp up towards 2016 and Hillary I think it was under hold on a second. I think I had it under the

1:42:58 Yeah, here it is. This was a report called the Sisterhood of the Spies I'll just play it a little bit so you can get a taste of what they were talking about You can listen to the full clip in the show notes 566.nashownotes.com Deep inside CIA headquarters, a special room. The command post the night US Eels killed Osama Bin Laden and the scene of daily secret briefs by the agency's highest ranks And here is what is new. At any given day there are more women than men at this table For the first time nearly half of the CIA is female among them Fran Moore By the way that those shooting sounds in this clip are IN THE CLIP

1:43:43 What is that about? Because it's this whole the sounds and the music. It's all like CIA spooky stuff. The director of intelligence in charge of the president's daily brief, and Sue Gordon... So this is our shot right they're using almost the identical thing in this piece But why what does it got to do with email? No its spies! Its about spies John Spies aren't shooting up the place Female spies do Oh, right. Apparently. a woman. Our deputy director, our executive director, our CIO, our director of support, our director for intelligence... If anyone had told you when you first started this agency that it would look like this or that you would have the jobs that you have?

1:44:45 What would you have said? That I would have the job that i'd have, I'd say are you kidding me? Are you kidding?! For decades intelligence work was an all boys club. Most of the jobs women could get were as secretaries World War II allowed some patriots Alright so that goes on and on But it's kind of interesting. The women now dominate the CIA so they can take the blame for all this stuff. Everyone says, well if it was run by women there wouldn't be a problem! But they're making room for Hillary man. Secret Service agents are cleaning that up because as we discussed the secret service really does not like Hillary Now I think the latest stats are

1:45:22 Here it is, this is from AAP I think. US Secret Service agents and supervisors have allegedly engaged in sexual misconduct in 17 different countries! So we're cleaning up. Look for more suicides amongst the secret service because that's how they do it you see? That's the hallmark of the Clintons I might add So we have a Secret Service agent who spent time with the hooker, he got caught and then he's so embarrassed that he has to kill himself. Yeah right which makes no sense anyone ever gets caught with a hooker has to shoot himself! That makes SO much sense! So so... There it is hello do I get through my common core now? One more thing since we're on this topic uh for the red book

1:46:09 Chris Christie who is a real threat to Hillary I believe will have a scare, heart attack maybe a little stroke or something within the next... twelve to eighteen months. Ooh, oh very... I'm all on board with that and it won't take you know they can just spike his food or spray him with some prussic acid or do something maybe he could have- but it just needs a scare, all he needs is a scare and he's out of the election And that IS something they always keep talking about yeah I think thats a good red book entry, I agree Yeah, its in He might have one of these..he should not be drinking wine in Los Angeles like Breitbart Not a good idea

1:46:56 Yeah, a scare. Also that British guy in China who was murdered by that woman was drinking wine they poison you gotta be careful I have a couple of clips about Common Core And I've saved a couple, I was going to play them Thursday. Then something new came out today which i want to play at least the beginning of this is now Common Core is the new teaching standards that are being implemented across the United States of Gitmo Nation and what I found interesting this is a clip from Tennessee who have uh... one of the front runners on this implementation of Common Core

1:47:33 and this is a high school student who's speaking at some community thing, but it's clearly rigged. There are a lot of teachers in the audience The whole clip will be in the show notes but I want to play this because he explains very eloquently exactly how Common Core came to be. And this is, it's almost like I could have written this but he did it and it's perfect so a little setup as to what Common Core is coming from this high school student in Tennessee. In mere five minutes I hope you provide insightful comments about a variety of educational topics. I sincerely hope you disprove the research I've compiled

1:48:14 Here's the history of the Common Core. In 2009, the National Governors Association and Council of Chief State School Officers partnered with Achieve Inc., a nonprofit that received millions in funding from Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Thus, this initiative seemed to spring from states when in reality it was contrived by an insular group of educational testing executives with only two academic content specialists. Neither specialist approved the final standards and the English consultant, Dr. Sandra Stotsky publicly stated she felt the standards left students with an empty skill set lacking literary knowledge While educators and administrators were later included in the validation committee and feedback groups, they did not play a role in the actual drafting of the standards. The product is a quote rigorous preparation for career and college yet many educators agree that rigorous is a buzzword these standards aren't rigorous just different designed for industrial model school this is what I really like it because this is exactly what Common Core's about it is to create

1:49:11 Drones just kids who can just follow orders and achieve certain standards, but not even really teaching them The many thing anything I got a producer Brian. He sent me an email he might have sent me the link to this clip He says common core sucks donkey balls My son came home with math homework and I at times have literally no idea how to help him, and i have a degree as a mechanical engineer. He says because in common core you don't learn using the rote method anymore You don't learn long arithmetic instead you do bullcrap like number lines fact families and number sentences WTF is that?

1:49:54 I guess, yeah he is...I'll just finish the email. He said, I guess when he's standing in line at the register of Mickey Ds you can draw a number line to figure out what your change is by the way it doesn't work he struggling with it as soon as they show him over the way I learned that can see the light come on and gets it so these are apparently the new ways kids are being taught math is uh... number lines fact families and numbers sentences I have no idea what that is, John. But it doesn't sound like the way I learn math. It doesn't sound like math! Well you might want to check that out... I'm looking up number lines now and i'm looking at these images where you're... This is just idiotic What is it? You should have to see the other... They got a frog jumping over these numbers. It's kind of like

1:50:47 I'm just looking, just a quick hit on what i'm seeing. I'm seeing what is something like an abacus way of doing math. Very non-standard approach with... well this is really weird number lines Well let's uh What's the point? well this is proves anyone but proven that this is a better way to learn math and wrote four times for a sixteen s all god now well it's i think the ship of sale john this is now implemented in almost all fifty states i think texas' still fighting although its coming into some back door called something else but room but be reminded but this is uh... mainly financed by the bill melinda gates foundation who might have some kind of

1:51:33 uh... skin in the game depending on what software is yes it will be a little anything that you have a computer or tablet surface here's what was the other one besides number lines of the other two um... fact families facts and lease What's the last one? Number sentences. Number sentences... I think it's just ways to remember the answers to stuff, i don't think that they're actually learning anything anymore Now i have this clip that i saved from Thursday called Common Core Brainwashing and i'm not quite remember what was in it so let's play this while you're looking at your number sentences

1:52:17 Common core or common failure? She's a solid B math student. And did it go down? It went down to an F. To an F?! Yes, she was failing math! A group of moms so fed up with new state education standards they opt for homeschool instead All of you pulled your kids out of math class here? Yes. And K2's Dan Casuto spoke with those parents in Hillsboro today Pulling your kids out a math class is pretty big step My daughter's an A student It went down to F To an F Yeah, she was failing Math Math is still Math but Evergreen and every other public school in Oregon now teach it differently using the common core standards But now they'll have put that into real world example make story out of it

1:52:59 The principal expected more struggle. I know that our teachers feel like it's the best thing for our kids and it's making them really have to look much deeper into mathematics than what they've had in the past With number sentences? Are you kidding me?! Could it really be the best thing if nine families say that their kids were so stressed and so distraught over their failing grades, that they pulled him out of class? You don't have to answer that Ryan Okay That's a bit of an aggressive question. That's the voice of the Hillsborough Police Department! What?! Well, hold on they're about to explain who it is... Hold on, let me roll it back. I should have warned you that was coming up. The aggressive question? Yeah yeah hold on that's like here... Nevertheless common... Sorry. Aggressive question That's the voice of the Healdsboro School District spokeswoman How many parents took their kids out of math class We have a small group of parents elected to do online math or math through another venue So it was a very small group how many

1:53:59 uh... one percent and that would be how many tonight this is uh... being discussed now by are um... education secretary arnie duncan and his comments on this quote white suburban moms are upset that common core shows that their kids just aren't brilliant what's yeah this is your united states secretary of education This is what he's saying. This is very troubling, what's going on here. Now some teachers... because of course the teachers are being graded based upon the grades these kids get and it's really just about teaching them a number sentences and number lines and whatever Some teacher have figured out how to fix this with a new concept called flipping the classroom

1:55:02 Here's a new idea getting a lot of attention at Mercer Island Middle School. It is called the flipped classroom, instead of lecturing in the classroom math teacher Donna Johnson records a video lesson for students to watch it home The next day they do their homework in school and Donna is there help them She says this allows kids to watch the video in her own environment without distractions They can slow things down pause and watching again or fast forward By having the flipped classroom, I really get to know their strengths and weaknesses. And I've seen some kids just grow tremendously take just leaps and bounds of confidence level in scoring better on tests Donna started the flipped classroom idea last year and now other math teachers are joining in one thing that helps it work at Mercer Island School District all eighth graders are issued an iPad so they can use it watch videos into homework

1:55:50 There you go. It's a bonanza everybody get your eyes what it's all about Yeah, flipping the classroom So the kids at home watch the video on their iPad and then they do their homework at school Nice this is insane And it's just the beginning I'm afraid let me give an example of a fact family multiplication fact family. Here's what you do, you draw a triangle on your paper at the top of the triangle we have a 12, bottom of the triangle you have 4 on the left and 3 on the right or they could be reversed I think and then in the middle you have 8 times sign, multiplication sign slash division sign and that is a fact family because twelve is if you multiply four times three get twelve if you divide

1:56:45 by four you get three if you divide twelve by three, you get four and if you multiply but the top number obviously don't multiply or divide anything it's just the home number and this is somehow valuable. And this affects family Meanwhile its a Illuminati sign they're looking at all day Yeah especially with 12 on the top Wow. I don't get the point so you have oh this is a fact family so 16 would have it be 60 at the top two and eight that could be I know why can't do four and four but okay he can't on that's a fact family now what you what you get out of this as opposed to just I don't get it okay whatever I quit

1:57:39 It's bad. I think that this is really a problem and please take your kids out of school That's all I can say is you've if this common world textbooks at worked If your kids are in this in this Common Core bullcrap, you've got to take them out. I don't think that's okay My kid my kids too old now for this but wow Yeah well I had this problem when i went to Cal as a chemist. Because, in the college prep era they decided to change... This was during the new math era but there's this thing called and we all learned this SMSG from MIT is called student math study group for all the smart kids and you learned this form of mathematics that

1:58:36 When you went to back, like you went to a university and took a regular calculus course. I got a D. You can't pass it because is your whole, your brain has been screwed up by this other methodology and you go to normal because they're not going to start pushing common core at Brown University I can assure you where they teach a crazy stuff and you won't be able to get through college. This is the way to keep you from getting your kids through college. Is that what do we want to put that in the book? That's your conclusion That's well now the more I think about it and look at these these diagrams in all this. This isn't anything you can, you can make the jump from this sort of whatever it is type of study to college because in college they teach traditional stuff yeah and that's what they do when you better have a traditional stuff in the background. You know step previous to this. Is this all part of this stem thing? That bothers me too

1:59:35 Science, technology, engineering and math. STEM! I got an email from Jeremy which kind of fits into this. Hey Adam, I've been following with interest your numerous comments about setting up your own email server and related systems as well as the need to teach our kids how these sorts of systems work And i really think you have a good point! I have an 18 month old son although I don't have to worry about emails Facebook etc just yet...I have started thinking about it. I think would be great if you and John made some time to talk little more in depth about this and maybe give the listeners some actual direction on how they can themselves become more informed and how we can teach our kids. You guys have a captive audience, I really think it would be great but okay... Now here's my thoughts on this first of all I think this common core is essentially well you say it's to yeah you're probably right by the way it's to keep kids out of college because we need a whole generation of people who can run the machine

2:00:34 And that's essentially, you know there is a triangle and if you want 12 units to roll off You have to press the 4 button and the 3 button. It doesn't seem like much else to me other than robot training Would you agree? Well, I'm looking at... let me just go back up just a second because i'm still looking at some of these images. So there is a picture here of this is uh... You have to look at this and we should put this in the show notes. This is one of things you would do if you were a kid in the fifth grade. You would do flying with fact families and there's A B C D E F G for is twelve questions and they show you the three chest three numbers and you have to do figure out the facts family in a fact that it's so obvious issues the last number as the top of that whether if its appearance at this time big-numbered as what counts in the other two just multiplied by each other so he's supposed extrapolate all this mhm it's just stupid but you could do this whole thing without knowing anything yeah I think that's the point

2:01:38 I mean you could just, you could be brain dead and if you were just told take the biggest number and put it at the top. And put two numbers below it at the bottom and then put a this sign in that sign next to boom your done! So I think... You don't have to know anything That's what I think is about John. 45 of 50 states have implemented this. We know about the Governor's Council or whatever that organization is called who rolled this out It's been, you know... I think it is very... This is crazy! Is what I think this. And its meant to build bots! Make your children bots! Well these kids are not going to be happy

2:02:23 Well, but all they're going to do is just push the buttons. Whatever they have to do in... And families that say their kids are depressed because it's so difficult and it's not difficult I think its' so easy if you just go by the formulas that you can create for yourself Oh! I can do that You know? I could put a number at the top and two numbers on the bottom As opposed to the kids who are going what is the point of this?! Perfect I think you and i should write a book, a giblet rather an e-book. And it should be essentials your kid needs to know in order to survive the coming robotification of America's youth

2:03:06 There's that yeah, we should yeah I think it's a good idea and there should be some really simple stuff And I remember when I'm sorry. I have to You say so I make the mistake of saying member a lot and has to I should be saying remember Oh you have been saying? You know this is interesting because I've never noticed you say member one of our producers has been pointing this out to me specifically So I want to catch myself and say remember Remember when I was in school, when I was a kid. I'm starting to learn how to say it John We learned basic. When i was a kid? We learned basic. The programming language? Yeah! And that was part of what you did and it was cool we learned basic

2:03:49 I think there's a couple of knowledge of both the logic was logical yes and it also helped you to deep learn to define mistakes in debug because it had to be right at the end although my code was always pretty uniform and simple. It was 10 print, you suck 20 go to ten that was pretty much the code I did didn't we all? But at least it gave you some, yeah it gave you some skills man. You know and this is not okay this triangle fact family crap This is more dangerous than Al Qaeda And why's it a fact? It's a fact family There's a jingle waiting for that don't ya think Fact Family! Fact Family! Fact Family I dunno Yeah there was probably one somebody could sing Anyway I think this is more dangerous than Al Qaeda Quite honestly

2:04:43 Well, maybe that's what they're talking about. When they say the danger is worse than it ever was yes because of this thing. Well we'll keep an eye on it obviously but it seems like its too late It sounds like its got slipped in early This kid in high school at least has some observational skills He should be a no agenda listener who just nails it There are other people. He's graduating, he probably graduates out of there I'm done! But you know there are... Meanwhile the Chinese aren't learning this stuff No no Let's see what else do we have? Oh and a throwback to our call back to Bitcoin remember Cody Wilson

2:05:32 Does this name remind you of anything? No. Okay, Cody Wilson was the guy who everybody was up in arms about in Austin Texas and he created the first 3D printed gun Cody Wilson and I and I just guns are so hard to come by and I think I went on record and said this guy is a promo guy he's a piece of PR guys a shill. I'm not quite sure what he's doing other than promoting the war on printers because of course we can't have 3D printers printing up cool stuff and guns is used as an example but you know, we can't ruin American manufacturing by people doing this at home. And I think that i was right about him just being a PR guy because Cody Wilson who was kind of silent for awhile...is back! And he has a new product

2:06:30 Now if you were a shill, John and you were out there just to jump on any bandwagon possible and doing kickstarters and raising money for crazy stuff. And the 3D printer stuff had kind of come and gone and you'd raise your 50 thousand and you're moving on what would you pick in today's world? I don't know, wristwatches wearable computers is the next big hot thing. Oh come on what's the big hype we talk about on this show all the time? Hype is probably...I'm blinded by it! I do not know what Bitcoin baby! Oh no! Yeah! Would you mind if I played his Kickstarter video for his new project? Oh please play Maybe he thought you'd act differently maybe you thought you see coming but the moment here and its time to make a choice

2:07:22 at its end of empire. The United States imagines the power to regulate the world's first great digital currency, Bitcoin. It is a cyber currency so how do we get to it? To provide framework for its existence A technology that questions all previous frameworks fitted for straight jacking Helping the United States as group of lobbyists and corporations calling themselves The Foundation By the way, The Foundation isn't that something from a book or something like The foundation that from a movie sounds like I've like I guess my yeah, like the foundation It's the code of Foundation But it gets better again what listen to the sentences this and by the way This is almost like Brad Pitt fight club. This video is really its highly produced Its just excellent. I have to say but people keep your bitcoins away from this guy the mission as a performance To both agree with

2:08:23 and maintain an independence from regulatory power. But you can't have it both ways. OnSystem is an international group of activist developers led by Amir Taki, concerned by the foundation's centralized development and advocacy They're developing a crypto wallet that runs on a completely independent software stack Okay write this down! It runs on a completely independent software stack This wallet runs on the back end Libitcoin, The Command Tools SX, and the Obelisk Blockchain Server Architecture. A thin wallet, the premier version of which will include privacy and security features, trustless mixing, and the foundation of a distributed identity protocol. Help us cover the next four months of full-time development

2:09:20 Help us make this implementation a line in the sand. ...the technology. Now we are all being intercepted permanently, this is a state change... My personal bank accounts were shut down and I was blacklisted from having a personal bank account It doesn't matter as long as I can use Bitcoin And now we're hearing stories of people's personal accounts being blocked because they said they were comfortable operating in that environment Because they felt that they enjoyed complete anonymity Are you watching? Are you listening? Yes, Bitcoin is what they fear it is. Oh a way to leave To make a choice there's a system approaching perfection Just in time for our disappearance So let there be dark

2:10:23 He's got every meme imaginable. He's got Atlas Shrugged memes, just before I disappear. That's right! So this thing is... Nigel Farage in the background screaming something? Yeah he's got Assange in there everybody and his kickstarter is called Dark Wallet Which reminds me of Dark Mail, a little follow up on the Dark Mail guy. This is the Lava Bit guy that everyone's coming all over? Yeah, so one of our producers is a lawyer And he's actually very close, not to this case particularly. He understands a lot of this and we were talking about the LavaBit guy and what is this warrant about etc... So he went with me actually but sent me a lot of information, went through all of the documents about Lavabit

2:11:17 And he said, here's what the problem is. This LavaBit guy was actually taunting the government He wanted a lot of noise and the government was really confused like why does this guy keep doing all this stuff? and he has been instigating these court cases mainly because...this is the conclusion that our producer came to and I agree with it Is that the Lavabit guy is embarrassed Because his so-called super secure service relied on one master key. And so there was of course not in any document, nothing in all these court cases says that the government wanted to

2:12:00 look at the Snowden email account, there is no evidence of that. And I maintain although this is just his word against mine, I maintain that the guy made that up There was a warrant two months prior to the request for the master key A warrant for child pornography that might have been running on his server or at least someone who had an account who was involved in child pornography and they complied with the warrant, sent them whatever they needed to have. But the problem with this so-called super secure system that genius Edward Snowden was using for his super secret account was that one SSH key could unlock all of the accounts on the server And this is not discussed by anyone in your great technology press

2:12:52 And this is what this guy's been making all this noise about, it's just, oh the government! Oh they're trying to hoard our money! Let's do dark mail! But please don't look over here and don't see how incredibly insecure my system was. To start with have one master key for every single account So I'm putting this guy in the Cody Wilson bucket of bullcrap Dark wallet, dark mail What is this? Don't be fooled Yeah, I think anytime you see the word dark now that's code. Dark podcast. We're the dark cast! The dark podcasts are underway we're gonna get some money do a dark podcast. Nobody will be able to figure out how to download it. We have a dark podcast now. Our podcast is so cool it's dark you can't...you have to know where to find it

2:13:42 You can't just listen to our show, no way! It's another No Agenda. Clip Blitz! Ah 33! Clip Blitz! Alright time for the clip blitz as we wind up this show John what do you have for us? A couple of cool things if you want to start off with a well I'm gonna finish with...I know it's Sunday so today means High School USA but wait Let's start with the herbal fraud going on in Canada. Some herbal supplements may not be what they seem, researchers in Canada use DNA barcoding to test 44 different supplements

2:14:26 They found some were often diluted or replaced entirely with fillers like soybean and rice. One third showed no trace of the plant advertised on the bottle, only another plant in its place." That's good to know! Yeah perfect So there's a breastfeeding controversy going on and it is kind of universal. We have two stories, one of breastfeeding in the UK followed by America and tell me if you can kinda spot the difference between breastfeeding in the UK for starters and then America playing back to back? There is an interesting government program underway for new mothers in Great Britain. In an effort to boost the practice of breastfeeding among low-income women, moms are now being offered money to breastfeed their newborns Each mom can now collect $200 for the first six weeks of breastfeeding more if they continue to breastfeed for up to six months The goal is to destigmatize the practice in poorer areas

2:15:22 Researchers say the United Kingdom has one of the worst breastfeeding rates in the world. It's another no agenda! Breastfeeders! One mother is caught between a rock and hard place, a Pennsylvania judge recently told her that she had to stop breastfeeding her 10 month old daughter so the little girl could stay with her father for two days a week it's part of a custody agreement but the mom says there's nothing agreeable about it He did say something along the lines like, well she should be on formula or why isn't she on formula? She should be able to have formula at 10 months old. I'm feeling frustrated and hurt. I'm trying to keep myself from crying it's very emotional. Alright what is this is there a new dark breast milk market in happening? It just seems that UK...I mean when is the government telling women what to do or not to do

2:16:16 Essentially that's what we're listening to here. Okay, here we go. Snoring in Brazil this is good news for you snorers. Avoiding salt could be the way to cure snoring at least that's what Brazilian researchers want to prove they started a study last month hoping to uncover a connection between salt and sleep apnea Researchers believe excessive salt intake builds up fluid in the body and then the fluid shifts to a person's neck when they're lying down. Some patients will take a diuretic pill, and others will switch to low-salt diet to see what works to treat sleep apnea Well there you go! The war on salt is on

2:16:53 again. Meanwhile in France, the truckers have decided to protest. This is actually better on film than this report but you have to see these guys... 10 thousand trucks will take to the highway you know, and clog all the lanes and then stop. They've already started yeah this is news here this is big news next another weekend another huge protest here in France thousands of freight trucks blocked major highways in a massive go slow This is part of ongoing protests over the French government's planned eco tax which would slap levies on heavy goods vehicles

2:17:32 protesters in Brittany, Northwest France have become known for their red bonnets. Well they've been taking action and those protests have been spreading across the country. Excellent yeah the French you know the French are smart man they know how to do it They don't take any crap from people We used to be able to do stuff with the Teamsters we'd get together and do something no now they arrest everybody We throw people in jail, we need more prisoners. I have something for the cliplets this is Larry Flint he is publisher of Hustler magazine quite a hero and he has said that he is not interested in seeing the guy who shot him he wound up in a wheelchair because it was shot by some crazy guy He doesn't want to see the guy put to death but he says it does no good and he actually has little call back

2:18:17 to something that I have said for many, many years. That there is a reality show in some of these punishments just waiting to happen and the Gitmo Nation East people in the UK knew what it was about in the 18th century! Is there part of you for which it's difficult to separate that long-held political belief of yours from an understandable anger or desire for vengeance against the guy who put you in a wheelchair for life? No, because I'm very pragmatic. You know if you're a victim of someone who's committed a crime like murder or something...I can understand why you would want to see someone put to death but when you really take time to think about the fact that our system is supposed be about justice not vengeance and when someone sets out to commit a crime like murder

2:19:12 they don't stop and think, well am I going to get life in prison or am I going to get the death penalty if i do this? That's not the way they think. It is not a deterrent it never has been and you know in England 18th century pickpocketing was a capital offense and they used to hang their pickpockets every Saturday on town square while we were doing that people would be going through crowds picking pockets of people watching the pickpocket getting hanged so I think the British caught on very early Yes, this is a great idea. What happened to those days when we would hang people publicly? I am such a proponent of killing people on television. Yeah you want to make it into a reality TV show then we can quit this gig. Yep! We could kill people on television have crowds You know the whole thing it's perfect and do ratings do ratings How many points does that guy get to shake enough for the guy? It's another no agenda

2:20:08 Alright, take us home Johnny. What do we have? High School USA. Let's start with High School USA clip number one. Connors I'm sorry i can't figure a way out of this mess like I usually do Hey Brad would you mind punching me just one last time Sure Black Steve Of course I will Ow! I cant believe im gonna die a virgin Amber last week when you werent looking I totally popped your cherry Oh! You're the best best ever! Okay, this is it. Officer Duffy! Uh you all heard me say freeze right? Ew the murderer's so ugly Well that depends on your political convictions You see that isn't his face It's a mask Of President Bush Senior And this is on broadcast television On Fox

2:21:05 This is the real Fox we're looking at here. So just so we just don't have nothing but you know a lot of kinds of sick humor let's play it let's have a little anti-semite stuff too Is this clip number two? Clip 2, yes. Oh eyes are awesome! Oh that's not even the half of it you can do all sorts of things with eyes did you know that you can blink them and roll them and wink them and close them and make them real wide or real squinty or hey how do you know so much about eyes yeah you seem unusually confident on our little field trip to the early 90s aren't you worried about getting an

2:21:41 Not this time. I'm used to not using technology Being half black, half Jewish...I take part in a cool ancient ritual called Shabbat every other week Neat! What's Shabbat? It's the Jewish day of rest when God doesn't want you to use electricity for 24 hours O-M-Jew You are so boring Is this what it is like giving someone your full attention This is the worst Alright guys! It's another no agenda Clifflash OM Jew? Did I really hear that? Yes, that's what she said. Title of the show... OM Jew. Oh, outstanding! Good clip list John, I liked it a lot. Fantastic. Yeah well... Sunday is the best Alright everybody please support the program go to Dvorak dot org slash NA we need to do little better than today and uh... sure will get the value for value i think you brought it to you

2:22:36 I will have more reports here from Europe, the EU, Gitmo Nation Lowlands and everything else that's going on. And John you will be in Florida? I'll be in Florida or Orlandio giving a talk and then actually just hosting some panels at an event and then I'll be doing the show and flying back. Right so expect us to be one or two hours earlier we will tweet accordingly And of course those of you in the podcast will not be bothered at all because it's a podcast. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation Lowlands, the heart of Amsterdam where it is grey and everybody is depressed In The Morning Everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I reiterate do no buy harmonica made in China! I am John C. Dvorak We will talk again on Thursday right here on NO AGENDA

2:23:36 Adios, mofo.