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00:00 Oh, and then we did this. I'm great! I will hope everybody listens to me! Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's Thursday October 31st 2013 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 5 6 1 This is no agenda Little Children for Fun and Profit at the Travis Heights Hideout in the capital of the Roadstar State, Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's always Halloween, I am John C. DuBois. Yeah, hey today is 10 31 13. That's correct another opportunity missed We are so we are so good at this 30 with 13 oh my god I guess a fantastic what three one run three that was a fantastic donation opportunity once again Miss lost it lost cause that's okay John because My day started off really really well

01:09 What happened? Well, I got an... The Smithsonian Institute. It's kind of like a... I remember going there when I was younger. You're a member! I'm also a member of National Geographic Are you a member of the Smithsonian? No I think i used to be. Well when uh, when we used to go visit Uncle Don and Aunt Meg in the DC area... What do you mean? You used to? You're never gonna see him again? No no no! When I was younger like really much younger with family like vacation here We'd get from- That's it is the way you start those stories. You'll get it when you're older. Alright. When I was a kid and we were living in Kensington Maryland From time to time would go down to the hub

01:48 the mothership to visit with Uncle Don and Aunt Meg. Now this is only a few years that I remember this because you know, but that was in Africa for awhile and then after that in Holland But I remember Aunt Meg would always take us and Aunt Janie would always take us to the Smithsonian And you could see like the capsule The Mercury capsule, and I always looked at it like that shit wasn't in space. You ever had that when you see that thing up close? Like really? Is that the original or is that some phony copy? I think they claim its the original but I always remember as a kid looking at that thing going nah there's no way! The door doesn't even close right this is not true

02:27 I've always been a fan of the Smithsonian. I've always felt that it was kind of an interesting... So you just think the whole thing is bogative? The Smithsonian's just a bunch of artifacts that aren't real at all. Well, here from the Smithsonian website they have a new addition to the Smithsonian They're very proud and they have a copy of the artifact with the deed-of-gift number 318908 The phone that helped Andy Carvin report the Arab Spring is now in the Smithsonian. You're kidding me? No, it's really here! What do you need to steal the phone from the hotel?! No it's like an iPhone 3

03:10 Oh, please. Andy Carvin is a man of many titles digital media anchor real-time news DJ and online community organizer to name a few but one he is most comfortable with his storyteller. Yeah well there you have it I think that says it all. I threw up in my mouth NPR social media strategist, Carvin used Twitter during the Arab Spring to communicate with protesters in the Middle East and verify eyewitness accounts from the front lines. Most of the time while he was on his iPhone in the United States! The hero... He recently published a book about his work, Distant Witness. Carvin has donated his old phone to the American History Museum which will include it in American Enterprise

03:59 And the exhibition... So somebody finally figured out a way to get a write-off on those clunkers. Man! We're doing this all wrong, John. Okay I mean we've six years 561 episodes of the best podcast in the universe And Carvin's phone is now in a museum. Well, I think we... Carvin's phone? Oh man! Whatever happened to Carvin?! You used to ridicule him mercilessly. Well the Arab Spring turned out to be bogative and then you know the whole thing is dumb and you know everyone knows it. Well I don't understand why they bought into that phone, there's probably some hidden messaging going on or something in the phone someone needs to retrieve this uh so this is a very long news announcement on blog post and it's an interview at the same time oh my goodness here it is they have a picture here like this must be at the newsroom from left

05:01 Rob Patterson, Andy Carvin and Jeff Jarvis at NPR HQ. Yeah! Is that picture at the museum or is that just on the website? No it's on the Smithsonian.com website for some reason they're relevant to this story I can't... What do they got to do with anything? But that-I found like two minutes before we went on air and like I have to share that with you That is very disturbing. Yeah, I'd say... So it's Halloween here on the day that we're recording this John your most memorable Halloween costume? Uh, I dressed up as an adult Okay really from door to door okay seriously now for one second when I was a little kid my parents made a robot costume that was quite Oh

05:59 Really? I can just see you. You think that influenced you? Well, it was starting with a bunch of... My father was working as an electrician someplace and he got this weird kind this coated these tubes that were made out of some sort of aluminum fiber and so that would be my arm. So I actually had arms that could be moved but it still looked like solid pieces a metal, i was actually quite... I think I won the award in third grade for that costume And do you think it influenced your career choice later on life as a writer about things about technology? No not at all

06:38 Hmm. It was just a costume I Remember my the I remember the first two of cost might they sucked? Well, I was a leprechaun one year seriously mom a leprechaun. You might just put gay and kick me And then it was Casper But now, but you know Casper is a gay ghost and it's like another gave Halloween. Maybe they're trying to tell you something I think so. Now your starting act out too which makes things even worse Yes! Im telling you this is very very annoying. Ah! Mimi the one who has the costume that she has made uh

07:20 She likes to make these costumes when the kids were younger then. And we still kept them all, they're in storage. Oh really? You mean archived? They were archived yes There was costumes such as one of the kids I think it was JC It was one of those costumes that Benny Hill used this bit Where you're in your your you're writing a dragon and the feet of the dragon are your feet, and then you have phony Legs around the dry. I'm gonna shoot yeah of course yes You know exactly we were talking about Yeah Do you imagine how many hours it takes to sew up something like that? It was like any excuse what and for what I think you know these because of course this morning I had to cruise through Facebook just to see

08:11 And it's Facebook is made for this type of bogative holiday. It's great because you know, look how great I made my kid Look yeah, yes Wow Okay or my cat Look at my awesome makeup. It's selfie heaven is what it is. Yeah, and they go from door to door with the kids like oh that's cute or what are you? I'm a witch! What do I look like you idiot?! So we have a plan uh apparently here in Travis Heights...I think they dump kids off with school buses to go walk up and down the boulevard here on the street. There are certain neighborhoods that are targeted yeah so apparently this is one of them

08:46 Uh-oh. So Mickey had, and she's been making all this stuff to hang in the trees and she got me so we're gonna sit there I think with white face makeup with top hats and If I know Mickey reasonably scary looking and were going to get drunk Just sit there and just wait for the kids to appear and just go Also, I think on top of that one thing. I used to enjoy Yeah was setting up a speaker system Oh like a PA yeah with the most horrendous sounding you know Wilhelm screams And things coming out of it that was just oh Wait I got it great one okay?

09:27 Okay, so I'll set up the spit well of course. It's no longer stereo system. I'll set up like a Mono is fine for this okay alright So and then now and I'll play this on a loop Just play that over and over whenever the kids parents coming over wondering what the hell's going on This is a better one this is a better one up Bambi to the stage that little kids walking up the porch If you could cue it so you have a button when we see the kids come and you push the button I think we can. I think I can handle that I think have things that I can queue that will in fire when I pushed the button, I Think I can work on that yeah

10:23 Alright, I'm happy for a little bit of distraction quite honestly because man it's been the weirdest week when it comes to stuff to analyze. Because you know when you have all these... When you have one huge thing going on You know it's bad enough, but now you have a number of things happening and now I'm looking for okay. What are we missing? What is the distraction that weren't there something there are things going on people by now or taking advantage of the situation well There's a couple of things. I'm noticing okay what she got well first of all they keep trying to their I Let me just start with this premise They may be skipping the six six week cycle

11:04 for whatever reason because they keep going everything seems to be a call back there's news piece after news piece about hurricane storm tropical whatever storm superstorm sandy was it randolph no sandy oh okay we had a storm here somewhere there was a randolph or something I'm talking about these, they're doing callbacks to these old news stories. And then they even tried the World Series ended yesterday with Boston winning and so this guy comes out he's happy as a clam that he won and...I got the little clip here The guy who is interviewing him how do you feel? This is great championship

11:45 How do you feel in so far as, because Boston got the bombing from the marathon. He throws this propaganda in and this interview and the guy essentially luckily and I thank him for this basically blows him off. It'd be the best team that we could possibly be did we know it would end up here? That was our goal We worked hard every single day Hey! We're world champs Can't believe it Shane You've won a World Series but we all know what happened here in April at the Marathon How much more meaningful is it to win this series in this park, in this city? Hey. All those that were affected in the tragedy... Boston Strong! Thank you very much! That's all I gotta say! From worst to first! From tragedy to triumph!

12:35 Unbelievable. Yeah, it was to be expected and if we had known any better we would have done one of our predictions Somebody called us on a couple guys did and it's absolutely true It falls right into our formula who is going to win? We could've done... you do it early when the betting odds are good I know but its bad when When we have a formula And it has been right so many times were jaded And we don't even use it! We're not like oh pffft whatever Oh, good news though. Just briefly really good news It's another installment of Tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow I'll have a great Sunday jam-packed dinner with the Obots. I love the new theme Yeah isn't that great? Yeah Sir Jeff man you know him

13:24 Good. That's going to be great, that'll give us some material for Sunday which is interesting because on Sunday we do the show an hour earlier Oh that's right we have the... But actually an hour later Time change, time change Yes so we will be uh For everybody who changes their clocks there won't be any difference Because they'll have changed their clocks as we will have done but people like I think in Arizona The show is gonna be at a different time Yeah because they don't change They don't change nothing I did find something. There was something going on, of course I was cruising through the C-spans back and forth and we had more of the HCDG which is what i'm calling it now HCDG healthcare dot gov hcdg We had more of that and then we had some more NSA stuff And of course you know I had to cruise around and see what's going on but then I found something else going on It was actually on C-Span 1

14:19 And it was the debate about HR 992, which has already passed in the House of Representatives. And Democrats really pushing for this bill and I'm like okay let me see what this is... It took a little time to kind of get into it But once I understood what it was, is very interesting and makes total sense that this all of a sudden came out of committee and is now being debated. And I think either they will vote on it today or that's happening. Let me play a little bit of the representative from Georgia David Scott

14:59 He is a Democrat from Georgia. And by the way, very interesting speaker and man that's one of these big you know well like really like dandy dressed men from the south from the Georgia I mean just really he's really got something really appealing in the way he talks Of course he's a total bankster douchebag Mr Speaker we have before us perhaps the most... Oh God! I want to learn how to talk to this Hello children Welcome to Trick or Treat! We have before us a zombie, a witch and a ghoul. No important bill facing the viability the financial security and instability

15:46 of the financial system within the United States and throughout the world. That sounds pretty important! He had my attention We're dealing here with a $712 trillion piece of the world economy This is the first time I've heard this number Typically, the number is 600 trillion You know what I'm talking about? 712 mm-hmm so normally this is the first specific very specific that's why I'm like whoa hold on a second I'm paying attention now normally when they talk about the worldwide derivatives it's 600 trillion so now we have a number seven hundred and twelve this is I know what this bill is right it's these swaps push out bill yeah my friends who are in opposition to this

16:40 certainly have some legitimate points no question about that okay we it's the southern is a southern palatinus had a meltdown we had a meltdown banks and members on wall street did wrongdoing they did wrong doing my duty clair i have the vapors of the wrong do when they're done but this isn't the bill to punish them for doing that wrong building like you're ever gonna punish the bankers? You said wrongdoing, wrong building last time Oh, I don't know. Let me roll that back a second...I thought he said wrongdoing. To punish them for doing that wrong building! Sounds like building? That's what he said! He is building! He's on drugs! The wrong building?! Yeah, he said wrong building! That's really weird. Well maybe- To punish them for doing that wrong building! He says building you're right! Alright well they- alright

17:34 We punish them for wrongdoing by working with the regulators and putting in fact, in motion not just civil penalties not just financial penalties but criminal action. Yeah I'll wait for that But we do that in another place at another time. We have already approached that with the CFTC to use criminal actions if any of this kind of shenanigans happen again. Shenanigans? Worldwide financial collapse...

18:12 shenanigans. But we're here, we're here to make sure that our banking system that our economy that has to work on the world stage has Not a disadvantage. Alright, so what is that? I said ice cubes are your... I'm dropping stuff into the pot. Is it your scotch? It sounded like ice cubes. That's funny. So this is the so-called swaps push out bill and I'll try and explain it. I understand swaps because I've worked on derivative systems and I understood how they work very early on

18:47 They're trying to regulate the credit default swaps. No, no that's incorrect. That is incorrect quite the opposite quite the opposite. The buzzer thank you yes the Dodd-Frank bill act etc had a specific clause a specific section 716 and in 716 it stated that banks needed to take their swaps and derivatives, let's just say, their derivatives exposure and put them into separate vehicles which means a new company that is outside of the FDIC Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation system.

19:35 So that should these, now we have a number 712 trillion dollars worth of derivatives come falling down like a house of cards or a huge domino event typically done in Japan. God I love it when those guys do that shit! Then it would not come down to the taxpayers to bail out the banks because they are in FDIC insured vehicles and this is now being repealed with this bill And if we listen to Mr. Scott here, he says our banks will be at a disadvantage if they have to now actually set up different corporations to run their derivatives business

20:24 And, you know and no one else has to do that boo-hoo for our banks. And it was a very interesting conversation because some people said look it took 66 years to repeal Glass-Steagall and look where it got us! Now after only three years we're going to repeal one of the most important portions section 716 of the Dodd-Frank Act this is...we're on a fast track to hell And I think they're right in this case and i find it despicable that we have you know people like this Scott Gibroni saying hey you know, this is a... We can punish bankers another time. Don't punish the bankers with this bill! What's this guy's name? David Scott from Georgia and of course you can see why the banks would prefer to have the derivatives inside the FDIC system

21:22 inside their banking organism as we know it today so that if something does fail, and this by the way is really Citigroup. I think Goldman Sachs already has adhered to the Dodd-Frank Act and Citigroup has probably about half of the world's derivatives hanging off of their nutsack So to me it's quite obvious like Citibank is like, oh crap we better keep this in here because we're gonna take a bath on this stuff and we need someone else to help us. Like you know those Americans out there This is kind of known as the CitiGroup bill but CitiGroup is not small by any means

22:04 And this of course gets zero reporting because people hear swaps, you know, I don't want to know. Yeah well it's true it's boring It won't be so boring when we have to bail out Citigroup again Didn't we? We gave them like half a trillion last time They've gotten plenty of money from us No yeah no I agree And it's funny because you know and I'm looking at... JP Morgan has got to be sitting on a bunch of this stuff too. Well, something very interesting So there was another event that took place over the past couple days. It was the swearing-in ceremony of our brand new FBI director, James Comey who as we know comes from the banking world not specifically he's been in government before but he came from essentially a huge hedge fund and he was on the board at what is it? The big money laundering bank

23:03 HSBC. And so I don't know if he's still on the board, he probably had to leave that would make sense and so he became the FBI...and the guy by the way is a head taller than President Obama which leads me to believe... You'd probably dunk on him! Which leads me to believe that the president may not be the six feet tall that everyone says he is I was like, wow that's weird. It should be like 6'3 or something No but a head taller John! A header taller is like six inches Yeah I'm telling you More...I guess it would probably be more like eight inches So they have this big ceremony and this Comey guy oh i already really am not liking him really and his wife and you can just smell elite from beginning to end

23:50 But here's the interesting thing, as the assistant...as the deputy director gets ready for the inauguration we find out something very similar. Something that this uh our new FBI director has in common with the president Go figure! We are here today for two purposes First is many of you know Director Comey was sworn in during a private ceremony In Attorney General Holder's office on September 4th Now this is like what? Really?! In a private ceremony? In Holder's office?! And so this is where to me it was like, hold on a second. Wait a minute! This is the guy going after Jamie Dimon and it is the FBI by the way who probes- who is doing one of these huge multi billion dollar probes against JP Morgan

24:41 So it makes total sense for a competing board of directors, former banker hedge fund guy to become the boss sworn in like secretly quickly just before this whole JP Morgan thing falls apart and Morgan has to report you know 23 billion dollars in reserves for litigation and fines. That's that's just a slight coincidence but it gets better But we reviewed the rules and regulations, and determined that oath was invalid. Because his spouse was not holding the Bible." Uh-huh! So officially I've been director. Ho ho ho ho ho... And second equally important We wanted to be able to officially welcome Director Comey in his family into the FBI families Yeah. Yeah! So two inaugurations could be two of these guys i'm just saying

25:40 Yeah. Why not? We got two presidents! This seems to be like a theme with these guys, I would just do over because his wife wasn't holding the Bible seriously?! I don't believe that... no. You know if it was a joke it wasn't very funny. It wasn't very funny. It really wasn't very funny. Anyway but- Totally a joke and it wasn't funny you're right there's no way But it kind of clicked for me September 4th You know, this is about six weeks ago or seven weeks ago. This is exactly when all the stuff came down with JP Morgan I'm telling you they're cleaning out their cleaning house They're getting back at people they're positioning someone's getting screwed and it's diamond definitely But but people are jockeying for position and this guy It's amazing how he must have the goods on so many people Or do you know? He must have the best tip sheet in Washington

26:39 that everyone wants to be on his email list. He said, it's unbelievable this guy got confirmed! Yeah no it was totally odd Other than that he is a banker Well you've go bankers running the FBI etc... well that means you know where they're going to be headed They are going to be headed at the banks What do you mean? They are gonna start taking names and yeah I think your theory is right but its only gonna be a couple we have to winners and losers We don't know that Oh please The banking sector is so competitive. Yeah, I know but the idea is you know when you get when you can go after these guys You can start to...I think there's gonna be a money grab! The FBI confiscates all kinds of stuff They have all these things I mean they take money from I mean the government or local authorities and the FBI and all the rest of them They do everything that they can just confiscate stuff

27:36 and have you confiscate like billions and billions of dollars the tax coffers need all the money they can get right well i mean it's not it's not just tax coffers they get to do stuff with that money yeah let me get to go to buy hookers and all kinds of stuff and have you noticed how both the fbi and the cia are getting like no blame, no finger-pointing, no nothing in all these revelations and all these hearings and everything. And now even Dianne Feinstein comes out, full review of the NSA! Stop this is crazy we can't have this! I went back to our original theory John

28:19 original theory that this is the CIA versus the NSA. Right, I don't think that theory has been dropped? No but i do have some additional things that became very interesting as former deputy CIA Mike Morrell did an interview on CBS 60 minutes and he said a number of things In fact, here's the opening of this interview where he's intro'd. He's never done a public interview first time ever as he is resigning after 33 years. It's unbelievable. Really? Oh yeah seriously! 33 years?!

29:00 And that means we have to take this with a grain of salt. Yeah, well and he... Well yes! Or it's code? Are we supposed to pay attention to it? I don't know either but I was paying attention and the worst what do you think is the worst part of all the revelations that actually would benefit people like us, you know you and I trying to figure this thing out but of all the Snowden leaks which of course yeah well we'll get into that in a second. But Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras everyone has everything it's not like Glenn there's not like Snowden is sitting there like oh let me PGP encrypt this and send it to ya. We already discussed this on our last show which was he gave all the documents both to The Guardian

29:47 Greenwald and I guess that guy with the Washington Post. Should I tell you something else? You know what happened after that? Greenwald and everyone went, hey thanks! See ya! Pretty much... Oh yeah oh yeah they said hey thanks buddy um well we- Greenwald's definitely one of those guys who took over the car and kicked you out Yeah oh yeah he said get the bitch out Let me drive! Oh by the way you're out Bye! But here is a ticket to Moscow But you can live in the transit lounge for a while. We haven't figured that part out. Julian Assange's pen pals. Yeah, well here is Julians email and here is I have an old iPod first generation with about 10 songs on it and enjoy your life thanks alot! You've made me a wealthy man we don't need you screw you

30:40 Okay, so but really this has all been about NSA not about CIA at all. Not about the FBI But what is them? What do you think the CIA would claim is the most damaging And, and but actually for them is really good. And for us even better can you I mean of all I didn't think this is known that he leaked this came out in August. There's a lot of stuff that keeps coming forward that I say I never heard this right? I don't know just play it Mike Morrell was deputy director of the CIA and gave us the only television interview He's ever done ever. He spoke to us largely because stop the very

31:17 Stop, but I think people out there should realize that when something like this happens He's never given an interview before why would he suddenly out of the blue? Mm-hmm do one now it makes no sense those types of guys that are dead deep and deeply entrenched in stuff They do they did they never come out of the know how to the closet closet closet say it They never can know. Of course not And all of a sudden now for 60 minutes, oh I have something to say. He was brought out for a purpose and it's after 33 years so this is a message we have to pay attention to. The nature of the spy business keeps successes in the shadows but often pushes failure. It's just like our show! We keep our success in shadows yeah that's not by any... That's not because we want you to turn on the bright lights Morell operated in those shadows but his insights have helped shape the key foreign policy decisions

32:09 The CIA wrote it of course, duh. Yeah obviously! Duh. The last three presidents the first thing we asked Morell about was the last thing he did at the CIA taking part in a damage assessment on Edward Snowden the NSA contractor who leaked classified documents about America's secret electronic surveillance programs I do not believe is a whistleblower um... i do not believe he is a hero I think he has betrayed his country. How serious a hit is that to national security? I think this is the most serious leak, um... it's the most serious compromise of classified information in the history of the US intelligence community Most serious ever in the history of but what is it really?! Because of the amount or type The amount and the type

32:54 But of the hundreds of pages of NSA documents that Snowden has leaked, Morell pointed to one in particular that has caused a great deal of damage to US intelligence. It's a copy of the top secret document the CIA calls its black budget. What value would that have to an adversary? The real damage of leaking that document was that certainly they could focus their counterintelligence efforts on those places where we're being successful and not have to worry as much about those places where were not being successful It's kind of like handing over the playbook to the other team. Yeah, yeah the question is what team are we talking about? What did we... wait a minute so what we heard here

33:40 that the CIA's most concerned about the black budget document? Well, the question is are they really or do they...are they pointing something out and I think it's...they're pointing something out. Because I went to find this and so this apparently was published in August. I missed it. In The Washington Post well that kind of explains why I missed it And of course, they're not publishing the entire document. They publish like five pages of 130 so I hate this! I really hate this about how this is working because you know they make a whole story to make pretty graphics on the show notes of course 561.nashownotes.com

34:23 They have big headlines and then they show you some extrapolated information, but certainly not the entire document. You can't even...you know you can download oh download document source and it's like four pages that goes from page 14 to 60 to 133 half of its redacted because they're doing this with sentence sanction it's obvious that it's okay you can put this out And when you look at it headline screams 52.6 billion dollars The Black Budget then it shows you and I think this is the whole point where the money goes now you'd think that the NSA Gets all the money and has all the people isn't that kind of what we've been told led to believe led to believe well The NSA certainly does okay with ten point eight billion dollars but the top number one agency with fourteen point seven billion dollars is the CIA and if you look at

35:22 What they're spending it on and you look at how many people that have- What's the National Reconnaissance Office? God knows. The CIA, oh no the national- That's the satellite guys! That's the guys that keep shooting shit into space all the time from Vandenberge. That's NRO. Are they associated with the NSA or the CIA do we know? Oh I'm pretty sure its CIA but I may be wrong But if you look at nation signals it said when you were to use the word signal that goes right to the NSA. I'm not buying possible that you have 14.7 plus 21 point one combined for NSA NRO if well here's the next category I looked at um number of employees NSA 23,400

36:12 CIA 83,675 full-time employees. Wow. The CIA is the Mac F and Daddy of this thing, and I believe that along with our theory that this is really just you know uh CIA... Of course let's not forget or let us remember that Snowden worked for the CIA, that he said he hated the NSA, the CIA didn't tell the NSA when he was put on a NSA job through his contractor that he had said, oh I'm gonna blow it wide open on these guys. And there's a lot of stuff that points to this really being a CIA op and in the midst of all this NSA stuff there is this really feeble attempt by Amnesty International like, but they killed a grandmother with a drone! The CIA is not good!

37:10 I mean, they've been trying to get this into the news. And by the way, I want to stop you here because the graphs about who's employing who are very... Confusing? 83-675 is not CIA It's full time civilian employees of all apparently, of NSA plus CIA because military positions 23 400 it just says NSA employs 64% of all military person doesn't say that 23400 is the number for the NSA. This is very vague I'll agree with you now your making me question what the information is but also It looks like an airplane seating chart

38:02 It just gave me the freaking data so I can do it myself, which they don't give you. All they tell you is there's a hundred and seven... A hundred and seven thousand employees in the intelligence quote-unquote community Right well this graph... They don't give us a breakdown between the two. I would assume there's more CIA people but i don't think it's by a factor of four Well back to the top looks to me like CSA CIA has all the money Well, not if you combine the NRO money with the NSA money then they don't. And based on our theory which would say that the CIA wants more money and that the NSA shouldn't be getting as much as they're getting... I think it's different so I've really been thinking about this

38:53 I watched the whole half-hour interview again that the planned propagandistic With the crazy music that that Kaiser Alexander did with his blogger. Oh, thank you right okay now Why did he do this? It's because he came here the CIA owns the media not the NSA and it's a does not own Hollywood They don't own the media they don't they don't know how to do this and in hindsight Now that I'm thinking of this This is Alexander is being bullied. I'm telling you he's being bullied. Oh, he's acting like a kid who was being bullied because the way he talks... He talks like they leave it to beaver kids You know? He's got a nervous quality and he's defensive and he said that I have one of the clips here which would be worth playing Yeah yeah let's do it Which is the Kaiser-Alexander clip which one is that I have to like... I got foreign partners or story turning around espionage Foreign partners okay

39:51 The head of the US's National Security Agency has countered claims that his organization collected phone data on millions of Europeans, describing them as completely false. During a congressional hearing General Keith Alexander went on to say the NSA acts within the law to stop militant attacks and works closely with America's NATO allies. The sources of the metadata include data legally collected by NSA under its various authorities, as well as data provided to NSA by foreign partners. Right exactly so he is on the defensive I am now really starting to believe

40:35 that not only does he feel like he's doing everything right by the book, I think he is. Now John you and i both know big data is big doo-doo Amazon can't figure out what they're still trying to sell me Superman underwear or something it's like they have no idea what's going on I bought tickets to KLM, on KLM Amsterdam. Every single website i got is still trying to sell me tickets to Amsterdam so the big data is bullcrap! I know this is hilarious to watch... There's no idea what's going on and these guys have no way of parsing through he even said so much in this interview was like well if you have 70 million phone calls it would take 2 million analysts 100 000 years there's nothing but what he IS doing

41:16 slurping everything up and that's by design and that's really all that he's doing. And he's been doing a pretty good job, however... He needs to be kept in check because I think he's been handing out candy too many people. IRS? Yes! We already know the IRS got information from the NSA to bust some taxpayers we also know the FBI has made a move on some people based on these kinds of illegal wire taps yes But if you want to know who the real scary people are, the NSA. They're not walking around with guns and dart guns and sticking you with a needle and you fall down dead! They're not droning people! No, no, no they're not... but here listen now we got to go back this interview where they talk about the drones so this is and there's a reason why he's doing this he's basically saying

42:10 and this is Mike Morrell, who never done an interview. He is going to tell us how great the drones are and what would happen if we didn't have the drone program which Surgical imprecision. In Morell's 33 years in the CIA, perhaps the boldest change and how the agency achieved results came literally out of the blue Armed drones in the skies over Afghanistan Pakistan Somalia and Yemen became the go-to weapon to kill al Qaeda terrorists But the UN and others have said they've also caused hundreds of civilian fatalities This is a very precise weapon

42:49 Collateral damage is very low. It's not zero, I wish it was. Yeah me too! But it is as close to zero as we have gotten with any weapon system in the history of this country There is no doubt in my mind that without these operations there would have been another attack in the homeland that would have rivaled the scale of 9-11. No doubt in my mind, he's proving a negative! I love it no doubt in my mind on this scale of 9 11 two three buildings

43:26 Would have collapsed at the speed of gravity. That clip that I still dig it up, which one? Which one was the one to find this is from four years ago It would finds Dean asking all these generals and they headed the CIA and they had a national intelligence Yeah, yeah You think we're gonna have an attack on the homeland in the next six minute now yes any minute Yes, any minute's gonna happen yo-yo agree with that We're gonna be attacked any minute now. Oh, I hear something overhead now! Okay so this is him as though... This is very important this is the difference between the NSA and the CIA. NSA basically Carbonite dot com just backing everything up sucking it all up and possibly able to retrieve some stuff

44:12 Based upon if you got an email address and yeah, I think we can kind of figure out You know where it's located and knew we confined. It's an interesting project that he's put together do anything Got all this data But they can't really analyze it now no you can't that's what they couldn't stop the bomb exactly you can't stop And you can't do this in real time 52 examples or whatever they number was 54. Yeah, we're bogus because they couldn't find a real example. But the real people who need to get this department under control, because they need to shut up do as they're told and oh by the way nerd boy get out! We're going to put a new guy in, a navy guy. So nerd boy you're out! You stupid...you got a big mouth uh we don't like you we're embarrassing you but we are the CIA Central Intelligence Agency. We kill people! We some you know some punk people get up you listen someone's iPhone? We get out of bed put our pants on and kill people!! We drone them and we pay off leaders of former oil executives posing as leaders with um

45:13 With hats made of goat fetus skin, because that's what Karzai wears. We pay him in cash and we're not ashamed to say it. To pave the way for military and intelligence operations, including the use of drones The CIA has reportedly supplied between 50 and a hundred million dollars over the past decade in direct cash payoffs to President Karzai Foreign aid is one thing but cash in suitcases and backpacks to the president and key aids Has a different feel to it It's all foreign assistance to the government of Afghanistan. It is foreign assistance my friend! Pallets of money, pallets in backpacks and let me tell you I want to come back to two things we've discussed in the past isn't it interesting that we no longer...it has been outlawed by the press somehow

46:07 to film flag-draped coffins returning back from Afghanistan, Iraq or anywhere for that matter. Most likely because if you believe in the continuance of the American hero story which was a true story from the Vietnam era it's full with drugs! Everyone knows... The United Nations, the World Health Organization everyone agrees that Afghanistan now supplies over 90% of the world's poppy products heroin right and the CIA controls Afghanistan. And of course... And they're paying for it! ...and if you don't play the game, they have a drone program Yes! Is there a quid pro quo here about you take care of me and I'll allow unfettered drone operations in the country even though they're unpopular? Umm..I think that those things that President Karzai allows the United States of America to do in Afghanistan are

47:03 uh... the interest of afghanistan these guys have no shame and this guy came out to say it and i think john he was sending a message to number people and i'm taking it on accepting this message from him cia is really in charge of the whole deal we run everything we run the white house we won the whole thing and where's brennan all those you don't hear about brandon anymore look at the purge that has taken place but everyone who's gotten kicked out They kicked out Petraeus. Mm-hmm, he was annoying. Yeah, but Petraeus had to go and how do they do that? I mean classic CIA stuff in conjunction with the FBI I might add. Had you know had the FBI do all their nastiness now let's go back for a second and talk about

47:54 Our friend Glenn Greenwald, who I'm quite... No. I'm really not liking this guy. We've gotten this impression over the last nine months or so. Yeah you figured that out yeah i know So he is in control of the whole show He's in control what is being leaked out but he needs protection And where is he getting his protection from? Well, I'm going to submit to you that his protection comes from the CIA. I think Pierre Omidyar who has direct business dealings with Booz Allen

48:32 Oh, where have I heard that name before? Booz Allen. Booz Allen. Snowden?! Oh! Do you think Snowden was a contractor for Booz Allen? Pierre Omidyar who... let me see wasn't he in charge of eBay? eBay who bought PayPal who denied Wikileaks payments isn't that the same Pierre Omidyar thank goodness Glenn has a friend at Democracy Now in Amy Greenbaum who is just sitting there and she wants to be hired by him so bad she's slipping off her chair. You can see it, like oh this is so great you got 250 million dollars! It's the journalist dream! It's a dream I tell you! We can save democracy

49:18 And so of course she has to ask the question about this PayPal thing. Have you talked to Pierre Omidyar? Are you concerned about issues like, well he's the founder of eBay, eBay cut off, eBay owns PayPal which cut off support for WikiLeaks What kind of discussions have you had around that which certainly would be relevant to what you want to do and your deep concerns about control I'm going to call that a scripted question What do you, how did you read that? Yeah I would say i wouldn't disagree with that it sounded very scripted. Very scripted! Sure in the very first conversation or second conversation I had with Peter I asked him about that exact issue and what he told me was out of time um and this is absolutely true he wasn't uh... It's unfortunate a really bad Skype connection No I watched them I've got some clips but He says this was absolutely true

50:09 What Pierre told me is absolutely true. Okay, let me just replay this was very hard to hear but he says the first uh no the second time I ever talked to him that was the number one thing i asked the second time I talked to him because you know it's just such a minor thing. He said look, i was not the CEO. The guy is like in the top 50 richest people in the world! Look at his Omidyar network...look at the corporations that invest with him and in him and with his uh these some of them are direct come directly from the intelligence community this guy if he says open up paypal to wiki leaks it opens up to wiki leaks

51:02 I would agree that he would have that clout, yes. Yeah and then to say but he had a newspaper an online newspaper in Honolulu who editorialized against it! Oh sure i'm convinced now absolute truth no this is CIA or maybe it's even a separate faction that we don't even understand but this is the same people who are screwing the NSA who are helping with... It's protection Greenwald you have protection now, you're a bitch. You're protected man now and good luck with that because these things always come around this will not end pretty No actually I was thinking about that today there's there will be a point where

51:48 Like in that scene from the clip of where you take a chance with the casino. The guy at the end, they say what do you think he's a good guys? A good guy is a good guy and why take a chance? Why take a chance and he's not you know... Let's say Greenwell is not a made man in the agency by any means. Yeah, he'd be cut out." And now something very interesting happened and someone is going a bit too far and again I'm gonna point to the agency because the agency... as you know I'm familiar with some protocols from the agency. Booze

52:29 is approved. Drinking of booze, boozing getting hammered drinking drunk is all good. Philandering women men transgender whatever you can get your hands on but typically we like guys with gals with skirts approved not a problem drugs yeah we move them we sell them we use them for leverage we don't do em CIA does not do drugs is a no-no. This is culture always been a smart policy of drug dealers Yeah, maybe we saw the movie was just on that Scarface was just on the other night exactly That's what happens to you if you use your product That's right You do not want to be smoking your own dope or sniffing your own blow or whatever it is And that's a good very good policy and and this is real I did this is it's the truth Okay It's like Glenn Greenwald said but it's also

53:21 applies in Monaco where you can't leave if your citizen you can't legally go into the casinos exactly because that's where the money is made and they don't want to citizens giving them money back as stupid yeah or getting compromised if your owner liquor store you know become an alcoholic well all right well a lot of people do but that's the reason you'd be you see what happens anyway go on but there's also they like humor They are way into jokes and humor, and sometimes little practical jokes. You know it's funny that you say that because the people in some of the most darkest professions love humor I gave a speech once when I forget was in the Midwest somewhere It was the Mortuary Association of Undertakers of some sort Huge group National Group of Undertakers

54:19 It was unbelievable. Everybody brought their hot rods and they were wild! It was the wildest group I've ever seen them talk about there was some guy regaling people with some of the most filthy and actually hilarious jokes everybody had a sense of humor, they were yucking it up...I've never seen anything quite like it. Yeah that's fantastic Anyway So we had this again And now this came out through The Washington Post Barton, Barton Gelman whatever but it's all from the same group of people and we saw essentially what they said a look like a post-it note of how and really two parts so that NASA's muscular NSA is muscular program. Muscular really? And this is how they collect data

55:09 from Yahoo and Google, and they get it by decrypting out their edge server before it goes into the internet etc. And really if you dig into the three slides of the hundreds that are in this deck because the deck slides are numbered but of course they're not going to give you the full deck once again and stuff is redacted out because its all been approved It's all gone through channels This is no surprise No one didn't know this was happening Its just more psychological warfare on you people And then they, and this is where they messed it up. They put an acronym GFE you saw the acronym GFE? Yeah I did Which stands for what? I don't know what It's like the Google... hold on a second What do they call that like the Google Fiber Exchange or something like that That could be And it had a little smiley face under it

56:11 Yeah, the little smile. Kind of a... yeah the smile is kind of an emoticon style. Yeah let me just bring it up I want to get the acronym right because when i saw that acronym and that's when I knew they were fucking around with us. Probably some good faith estimate No no if you google GFE right now you will get the true meaning as the internet knows it go ahead The girlfriend experience. Thank you very much GFE is it's like by curious as a category That's what escorts that's what hookers put on their ads GFE It's a girlfriend experience that is the top hit

56:48 And so for these guys to put GFE as their little acronym, with a smiley face. Okay... You got me! Somebody's getting screwed. Someone is getting the girlfriend experience and I'm thinking that's Kaiser Alexander Or maybe he's not giving enough girlfriend experience to his Uber Lords at the CIA and Pierre Omidyar or whoever else. It's the Google front end server, I'm sorry GFE So this is now... And now they're taking it over the top and i think they need to stop because by the way well you can do that but let me just ask a simple question which seems everybody in Google these guys are all bent out of shape about this one slide

57:34 And it seems to me that when this whole thing began and they had that slide where these big companies have already signed on, remember the original slide? Yeah, yeah. The original Prism Slide, yeah. The Prism Slide! It showed it all! We got them we got them finally got Apple hooray for us we've got all of these guys are part of this scheme Well if that's true, why do they give a crap about any of this? I mean there is something wrong with it. There is something discrepant about the Prism scheme slide and this slide which indicates that they're sneaking data out when they apparently have the front door open to them

58:12 What am I missing in this? No, no. I don't think you're missing anything other than the USA Freedom Act which Feinstein will either get on board with or she'll create her own version of it now we have we're gonna have a new bill and new laws that curtail the NSA which is exactly what we need if were the CIA We need this guy reined in a little bit, his britches got a little big. He got a huge amount of the budget that has to stop son you need to shut up and you need to be a backup for us as in like carbonite and when we say we want something you give it to us." Yeah you don't give it to the FBI, you don't give it to IRS, you don't do this, you don't thank anything... And you're not so stupid as to blow this stuff out to embarrass the intelligence community at large! Yes

59:00 This is like a humiliating, even though it's not CIA got themselves out of you know out of a bind by not getting mentioned but now the focus is the focus and the focus can't NOT reflect on the CIA in one form or another. And that's what its doing and thats how they did your thesis They don't like it Now I'm reminded just to top that off a little bit One of their old heads even though he was head of the CIA for awhile but really more associated with the NSA Is Hayden yes and there's a story that we could what was gonna run last night i'll show the train story the trains are just play this is the story and then i have a comment about it and the former head of the national security agency has been subjected to some unwanted eavesdropping of his own michael hayden was riding a train from new york to washington dc on thursday giving in off-the-record phone interview as an anonymous former official

59:53 Hayden did not realize he was sitting close to former MoveOn.org director Tom Matsy, who proceeded to live tweet his account of Hayden's phone call. Matsy says Hayden's comments included harsh criticism of the Obama administration as well as bragging about the CIA renditions program under President George W Bush. Yeah now here's the way I interpreted this with this story came out was just played straight But if you listen to the guy, the Matsey character talk about this in other venues You find out one thing Hayden is on his phone in a public place talking loud Yeah And I've seen guys do this. You know? You've seen these guys blow hard with their cell phones Yes In an airplane or bus or somewhere Oh and then we did this! I'm great! I hope everybody listens to me! Earshot

1:00:47 Which it has to be again a galling what can't you guys keep your mouth shut or go someplace where you don't have some everybody listening To you. This is really bad Is is Caitlin Hayden the I've not been able to find this spokeswoman for the National Security Council She hate his daughter. I don't know that she is let's find out I've been trying but I just can't get Get it, so I can't get I can't get a confirmation anywhere, so maybe not. That's really just coincidental. That would be pretty funny if true... it's doubtful

1:01:25 Okay, so the thing that you know the really when this when they tried twice now in the past two weeks to get This an NPR is trying everyone's trying to get this drone story out there And it's based on a report and actually reports in the show notes for 2 or 3 episodes ago I'm not look through the report and the report starts start. I mean just did you hear the same story over and over again? A grandmother was out, you know getting beats or something for a family and then the drone killed her. And then the grandchildren came to catch her and another drone killed them! That's at the top of the report it's the same story no one has read the report

1:02:02 They just, you know... oh it's this look at this story at the top of the report. Let's use this over and over again." And that of course is directly attributable to Brennan and the CIA and the kill list. How many more gatherings do we need to see in the House or Senate? No one is there from the CIA! The CIA is not being questioned on this. Brennan's not being called into account Nobody! Only the NSA. And now we've seen Kaiser Alexander, who is a Trekkie... nothing against Trekkies but he's a Trekkie and you know and he wears like Vulcan underwear when he goes to sleep at night

1:02:43 And he's a hurt little boy. He's like, they're bullying me! He's acting that way? Yes and so now of course it's like everything is just fair game. Now that you mention it I never thought we'd reevaluate constantly on the show but now that you mention it he does seem a little bit like a go-by-the book guy I think he's died. I think he's actually when i'm what it says, I can do and that's all i'm doing I did the doing anymore Yeah, I didn't that's why so defensive when he uses this is going by the book Here's my TPS report. I did it just like you asked boss So no now it's and then of course to know as you know We need to mix it up a little bit where i've just reminded of another thing I don't think I have this clip but greenwalds on on uh

1:03:35 Amy Goodman on this last show or two Yacking away he when he starts talking a guy's just unstoppable and it's going on He said and he says that Hayden. He just throws us in out of the blue Which again would be something you'd be prompted to do? Hayden is the most power nations knows no question about I don't think anyone would question this assertion There is he is the most powerful man in the military bar none Aiden Not Hayden, I'm sorry. Alexander. Oh please oh please and he throws that Alexander is the most powerful man in the military There's no doubt about it Yeah And you yourself in fact when we were doing beginning our thesis on this brought up the fact that he's got this Barricaded facility in Maryland and they've got she's got a ship dedicated to himself yeah kind of buying into this thesis That he's the most powerful man in the military has his own army now

1:04:30 and it's yeah this is maybe just the opposite we're being led down a primrose path oh explain well we're being led to believe all these bad things about about i'm gonna say hayden again but I mean Alexander yeah uh about Alexander when in fact all from all appearances he's a go-by the book guy follows orders uh he doesn't do anything, he's not an evil person trying to screw everybody just collecting data they can't do much with it but he's collecting as much as he can because he was told to do that and that's it. And I was looking at I looked into Leahy you know because Leahy like has some kind of power over him

1:05:12 And Leahy seems like a pretty straight shooter actually. He's from the... Vermont, Leahy is not a straight shooter? No when it comes to this yeah Oh well he says a lot of stuff I would by the way He's in the tank half the time he's on on the air oh he's a drinker We had we've had you're not paying attention. We've had or not drunk episodes about him I'm sorry, I'm paying attention. I just forget the name sometime but he well he He may be he's probably being used in this he's probably man And I think he's probably if he's in the tank that is probably they got stuff on him

1:05:59 Maybe. Yeah, they got stuff on them. Oh yeah So then they you know we came anyway to wrap it all up so now you know it's fair game We can do whatever we want and and we can say whatever we want And the press will publish whatever I mean we you and I we could probably concoct a great story and we can make it credible if you made about the Netherlands or something, I could probably have some credibility there that would make it work. And it would fly like this one... A spokesman for Russia's President Vladimir Putin has had to deny reports that Russia spied on delegates at September G20 summit in St Petersburg Reports into Italian newspapers suggested Russia handed out USB memory sticks and phone charging cables

1:06:40 The sticks were discovered to have digital bugs built inside which could then steal data and transmit it. Oh! It's the magical USB data stealing transmitting stick! But this is, I think, the BBC and you hear them like... It had a bug in there! And they have no idea how to report on this stuff I have no idea. No, it's really insane... It's funny because we have this world where we have technology reporting which is all about shiny crap and then we have real reporting which is about technology but they can't get past like words like bug uh snooping glitch glitch yeah your favorite glitch

1:07:31 And then just some, I'll wind up my stuff here. Just some general douchebaggery from the hearing yesterday This is Rogers this is the guy who wants so desperately to have new legislation So that all his buddies... He wants to be a spy He is a spy wannabe. No, he's a dupe! Yeah but he knows... he'll be in on all the contracts and there's so much money to be made. Oh yeah they'll bring him into a meeting or two like it feels like he's part of this team Well if you've read In This Town then you know that this is how you build up capital and then you leave government And go make a couple million dollars a year being consultant to whoever

1:08:15 Whoever and one of these days Miss McGinn, I'm gonna pick it up. We're gonna move to DC and And become a consultant because I'm tired of poverty But I still have some some scruples left now listen to his view on privacy because well This clearly indicates in 10 years, clearly indicates that something must be doing right. Something must be doing right? A guy can't even talk right now. Something must be doing right! Something like the computer that runs it all! Clearly indicates in ten years, clearly indicates that something must be doing right. Somebody must be doing something exactly right. But who would you complain to? Somebody whose privacy was violated. You can't have your privacy violated if you don't know your privacy is violated

1:09:00 What? This is a guy from the... That is an evergreen, just that little bit. Well, can it be an evergreen? You can't have your privacy violated if you don't know your privacy is violated. That's right! Is this a world of Wile E Coyote cartoons where you run off the cliff and if you do not know that you're off the cliff then you don't fall?! Wait until you hear the follow-up because this law professor gives the logical rebuttal which would be I don't know. If a tree falls in the forest? Oh, yeah does it make a sound? Well of course it makes a sound! Yes Yeah well... You're right But who would be complaining? Somebody whose privacy was violated you can have your privacy violated if you don't know your privacy is violated right Ken? I disagree with that I mean I think-I think if the tree falls in the forest and makes noise whether they are there to see or not

1:09:53 That's a new interesting standard in the law like we're gonna have this conversation But we're gonna have what cuz that's gonna get a lot more interest there enough. Yeah, he'd think that's crazy talk That's just crazy. This is new the law doesn't... This Rogers guy, he isn't from Michigan I believe? I don't know yeah People that vote for this character should be ashamed of themselves Yeah This guy should not hold public office He's a out-and-out moron and something of an A-hole Well it's just beautiful when someone says if you if you don't know your privacy is being violated then your privacy is not being violated

1:10:31 And if you're asleep when you're being raped, then were you really raped? I mean let's be honest about it. Maybe we should go rape him and ask him! Or Roofies Yeah maybe we should go Roofie Rogers Oh man show title... Roofie Rogers We could go Roofie Rogers It's just unbelievable. Here's a the Kaiser spoke and tell you factually actually do not have access to Google servers Yahoo service that that that we got record order We issue that court order done through the FBI And it's not millions its thousands of those that are done, and it's almost all against terrorism and other things like that nothing to do with US persons

1:11:16 He's crying almost it's fact. It's fact I don't we don't do no spy on people. It's fact back fact We don't do that and then the last one I got is clapper Who has changed his mind, because what was... did we actually save that Clapper thing? Where he says no. You know the funny thing about Clapper by the way this is interesting I didn't realize this until somebody brought it up when Clapper made his statement when he lied to Congress yes they didn't swear him in Oh really? It was considered, it's considered like bad form to swear in certain people because their integrity would be impugned. Really?! That's what I heard yeah. Oh that's something that needs to be pursued! Well Clapper... That's why there has been nothing done about it.

1:12:09 Although by the way, somebody else pointed out that you could still lying before Congress is a defense whether you're sworn in or not but it's Obviously nothing's gonna happen a clapper Did a little statement and we also got the talking points I'm sure you saw all that that was requested by LaMonde where you know The NSA talking points and then its documents. They've got on the show notes And the document says, you know punch the 9-11 thing a lot. That's the talking point because Kaiser Alexander he's really playing by the book Oh We got a FOIA request for our talking points for when I testified okay here they are and yeah No, I said punch 911 because we don't know why we're saving the world from another 911 This is what we're doing this is what we're doing. I'm a good guy and in hindsight

1:12:59 Yeah, he's just he's just another you know government dude who really is trying to play by the rules He can't get any play in the media because the CIA controls it and he's doing everything. You can so he brings in the blogger to explain himself And but think about it It's sad really it really is sad, you know Because this is actually the guy you want on your side This is the sysadmin who was actually trying to play by the rules and and he's getting shafted for it by the other departments. And here's Clapper, who has gone from no we don't... are you kidding? No we don't spy on Americans to now every single time he uses the word spy he does air quotes!

1:13:40 Did you see this? Yeah, it's hilarious. And he is just saying spying! He is not telling... no longer is it information dominance or surveillance or you know, information or SIGINT No, spying All of us in the intelligence community are very much aware that the recent unauthorized disclosures have raised serious concerns that you alluded to both here in Congress and across the nation about our intelligence activities We know the public wants to understand how its intelligence community uses its special tools and authorities, and to judge whether we can be trusted to use them appropriately. We believe that we have been lawful, and that the rigorous oversight we've operated under has been effective so we welcome this opportunity to make our case to the public So I'll repeat

1:14:25 We do not spy on anyone except for valid foreign intelligence purposes, and we only work within the law. To be sure, on occasion we've made mistakes—some quite significant—but these are usually caused by human error or technical problems and whenever we found mistakes we reported address and corrected them There's no way to erase or make up for the damage that we know has already been done and we anticipate even more as we continue our assessment. And there are more revelations made, we only spot... Sorry? Can he answer the question a simple question now which is if you guys are so good at all this and you correct all your errors how did Snowden walk out of there with this much information and you still don't know how yeah No he knows what's going on

1:15:10 yeah i believe me he knows you know for valid foreign intelligence purposes as authorized by law with multiple layers of oversight to shoot to ensure we don't abuse our stories and why would that be important for policy makers to know what the intentions of foreign leaders might or might not be well uh... for for one to determine if what they're saying gels with what's actually going on jails this invaluable to us to no uh... where countries are coming from, what their policies are how that would impact us across a whole range of issues. Is this something new and different? That the intelligence committee might try to target foreign leaders intentions It's one of the first things I learned in Intel school 1963 Leadership intentions In whatever form that is expressed is kind of a basic tenet Of what we're collecting and analyzing Yeah! What your problem?! WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM!?

1:16:06 Meanwhile, we have this clip. Carney on Merkel backpedaling and just falling apart it's hilarious. Friday's press briefing White House Press Secretary Jay Carney was questioned about NSA spying of the German Chancellor Thanks, Jay. I want to follow up on your comment in yesterday's briefing about how the United States is not and will not monitor German Chancellor Merkel's communications. Lawmakers in Berlin have objected to that answer because you didn't say whether her communications were monitored in the past so I want to ask you has the United States monitored the chancellor's phone calls from the past?

1:16:42 Nedra, we are not going to comment publicly on every specified alleged intelligence activity. As a matter of policy we have made clear that the United States gathers foreign intelligence of the type gathered by all nations as I mentioned yesterday The president spoke with Chancellor Merkel Reassured her that the United States is not and will not monitor The chancellors communications so here's how here's how i see it and then then then we should thank our short list but We have a list The NSA, now I was aware of the NSA and I kind of knew a little bit about the NSA because way back in like 92-93 when I first set up MTV.com, a headless Sun 3 server, I set it up at a company called Digex which was in Reston Virginia

1:17:29 DigX, well they were bought later but yeah they literally had there was a data center and I had a t1 above a Chinese restaurant in Reston Virginia and these were you know super cool dudes. Sounds spooky if you ask me! Well they were just really total you know Emacs writing open carry beard having butt crack showing Unix dudes And they were, you know these are the people that really helped build the internet. And we would... So I had my headless son three and if they say oh yeah and i went to visit them once over there you know that's the black boxes so who's that well it's NSA in FEMA! These guys are really smart they're all over it. This is not like we don't know that they haven't been a part of our lives but it's always been the spies or the CIA

1:18:24 That's always what it has been. And the NSA is a service bureau, it's like Akamai. You know? They just...Akamai doesn't take credit for streaming John Stewart So these guys need to shut up! This is what going on Shut up By the way you're overcharging for your services Your 10 billion dollars That needs to go us because we are the MacDaddies We got the drones, running drugs which is keeping financial system alive Back F off And that's what happening. And we're all being duped right into it and it is all one big joke. This is exactly what we said on this show the minute Snowden showed up But now people are making mistakes, and to me the biggest mistake is Glenn Greenwald hooking up with his new protector Pierre Omidyar That was a mistake! It was a greedy mistake. Greedy

1:19:27 and you'll see. I'm not going to argue that, it's worth watching and it might be interesting to see who suddenly has had an accident in a small plane because he has a lot of earmarks from the economic hitman story if you take a look at it from a different perspective and consider the jackals and all the rest of the models for the economic hitmen book uh... in afghanistan and and they real I guess, hold card is the drones. Because they're blowing people up left and right we don't know if this is like a personal grudge against some guy or... And by the way If I hear one more house that explodes because of natural gas

1:20:12 Have you followed this? Have you googled that in America. It's like every day a house is exploding, natural gas explosion which Mythbusters couldn't even replicate. Mythbusters! Which everyone buys into. We also have Hastings the little journalist who was obviously droned or bombed or something Boston Breaks something like that yeah and then I'll bring out Andrew Breitbart. Hello Andrew Breitbart Oh, that's a pricker. Pricker and then the guy who does the autopsy he died? I can't figure out what he did there... He had the real goods on the president's heritage you know whose son he really is and all that and maybe had the Columbia... It's been going around forever i don't know anyone has any evidence he must have evidence

1:21:12 That's what I've always heard and that that's probably why Hastings got droned too, is he was on that same tip. Yeah come on... Look, I'm worried about Miss Mickey is all I'm gonna do. No oysters no fucking mussels nothing that could be covered up. Right! No seafood! It really it's very easy to do that by the way. I know and it's completely transparent Yeah, well that and prussic acid. That's another thing you gotta worry about What? Well if you blow prussic acid into somebody's face and it creates a heart attack Oh yeah, no we don't want that And then it immediately just kind of goes away and there is impossible to uh Anyway I hope that we've given uh It certainly helped me this little conversation I think it puts things into perspective and now you can watch this and when people go

1:22:06 Like they don't they have no capability. They really Really, it's you know yeah if they focus on you of course of course this case if they get Exactly anybody that it's like the guys a hitman from the mob. Yeah, I can't focusing on killing you specifically You're probably going to get killed unless you're like, you know some... it's pretty hard not. I don't know how you get out of it No, you don't! If someone really wants a target you, Keylogger or there are million ways to do it but is there some Kaiser Alexander sitting up there in the cloud and screens are running and like BOTH!!! I found the terrorist!!

1:22:51 It's really, really not happening that way. Don't be fooled by big data in government particularly when you can't be fooled by big data in commerce When the guy who guys who have to do it to make a living not just to get more government dole and the funniest thing is if you go To like any website like you'd go to The Guardian Go to Any like Politico. You can go to any site that is on this story at New York Times, but you will see that they have a minimum of 40 but usually between 50 and 60 trackers Data trackers that are tracking your every move across the web and they're still showing me shit that I already bought two weeks ago

1:23:34 I know, I keep getting the same ad. What are you getting? What ad are you getting? Well there's a wine operation that is kind of sketchy so but i buy wine from them every so often and every time I go to any...I get their ad as if this is..I already buy from them! Yeah. I'm a customer, I don't need to see this ad This is a waste of bandwidth and not even that from a marketing perspective I built a couple marketing companies the opportunity that is being lost there. The opportunity to thank you, cross sell you upsell you or the old deal I used to have at cash at checkouts in a lot of grocery stores. The opportunity to say these guys just bought from wine company A hey wine company B don't you think you should be advertising to this person? Right so there's so many different ways

1:24:30 I mean, there used to be, you'd used to be. They've, I think this is the committee that went out of business or they were somebody put it in restraining order or whatever if you went to a certain this was like, I don't know eight nine 10 years ago you used to go too and there used to be a little machine at the grocery store cashier you'd go buy a six pack of Coke You get a coupon for a six pack of Pepsi. Yeah. Pepsi to get a cute pun for a six pack of Coke whenever you bought, they would counter sell the opposite. That's the opposite exactly Well that was a great idea. Yeah! But bullcrap selling me something you know if I buy a coke, if I went and bought a coke and got a coupon for six pack that was... So wait a minute I just bought this Coke I'm getting rid of it? I could have used this coupon?! I paid too much I'm not buying Coke anymore so big data is big doo-doo an advertising on the internet is pretty much a Ponzi scheme It's just unnecessary

1:25:26 So here is the clip that last year. Well, well let's I was kind of transitioning into... I don't transition yet got a couple clips we gotta get out of here We don't want to thank our producers and were an hour-and-a-half into this shit man what? We'll thank them in one minute okay we got it guys want to get these out because they will make no sense otherwise good be at Peter King whose eyes whose biggest he's getting to be a bigger and bigger douchebag on Democracy Now being clipped and then Glenn Greenwald commenting on the clip, which I thought is a good kind of way to wrap this. Okay hold on so where's the Greenwald response? Peter King to Glenn Greenwald Oh it's all in one? Yeah oh great! It's a twofer The president should stop apologizing stop being defensive The reality is that NSA has saved thousands of lives not just in United States but also France and Germany and throughout Europe

1:26:21 What? Hey, hey. Next time I see a French person... ...I'll be like you know what you should be sucking my balls right now We saved you You are the one of the thousands that we saved. And you know, the French are someone's to talk and the fact is they've carried out spying operations against United States for the government and industry as far as Germany that's where the Hamburg plot began which led to 9-11 They had dealings with Iran in Iraq North Korea at the French and Germans on European countries We're not doing this for fun I'm surprised he doesn't say it look at that Merkel It's a dude! It's just a dude That's the only thing I'm missing from him. This is to gather valuable intelligence which helps not just us but also helps the Europeans. That was congressmember Peter King who may well be running for president of the United States. Go and clean your mouth

1:27:10 First of all, are Democratic partisans at all embarrassed by the fact that the most vocal proponents of these NSA spying programs aside from people like Dianne Feinstein are the very Republicans whom they've spent years deriding as these radicals and extremists? People like Peter King or John Boehner or Michelle Bachman. All of whom have very vigorously defended President Obama's spying program. Does that give Democrats any pause at about what the real value or purpose of these spying programs are. What Peter King is essentially telling the French and telling the world is that they ought to be grateful that the United States government is invading the privacy of their citizens by the millions and intercepting their communications data, and I think that message is resonating really quite poorly." You know just briefly on this

1:28:03 You know that when Glenn... so, Glenn Greenwald. If you look at his history he ran into trouble early on or in his legal career and he basically quit practicing law some say before he was going to be disbarred because illegally ironically enough taped conversations with people and didn't disclose that. You know this right? No I don't know this! I'm all ears Oh wow okay So he's a lawyer and I know that right well But the stood as the story goes, and I'm just giving you you know the story. The way I've heard it He so this is all before this is pre his work at salon So then he moved to Brazil And he started in he started a gay porn company called Harry jock

1:28:58 Right, I know that part. And then he got in a fight with his business partner or something Pierre Amidar. I don't think Pierre Amidar was part of that actually and then he changed it like hairy dudes or something yeah and then he kind of fell into that whole daddy pays for a salon magazine so you know, he's not like the cleanest dude ever but he talks like you know he takes his shit And I can tell you from being in the public eye, that comes before the fall. It really does and it could be quite harsh and man just... Well he could easily be set up with some situation that would embarrass him or the small plane you know is one of the easy ways to do it Oh but he doesn't leave Brazil He doesn't even leave Brazil let alone get on a small plane no no no No! He sends his boyfriend Or husband Hey honey you go do that He's like pfff okay

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1:39:55 This is something I picked up, you know. We were talking about costumes earlier for Halloween and of course we've gotten into this crazy world where you can't offend anybody, you can't say anything wrong You can't dress up, I guess as certain things. Blackface costumes of course, sombreros over-sexualized costumes like geishas stereotypical costumes like cowboys and Indians she also condemned having theme parties like hillbilly parties or ghetto parties because she said she wants the students to think about the impact that this can have on the community This is the Dean at The University Of Colorado Boulder

1:40:39 So you can't dress up sexy, can't dress up as a geisha or any of that good stuff. This is the school I was known for a bunch of rapes or something? Anyway go on... It doesn't matter! This goes too far! It's outrageous. In Calgary Calgary School, which school is this? I want to find it. In Calgary Canada? Yes. Alberta? Not sure if... Where all the money is in Calgary? I'm not sure if its in Alberta or not but the school has decided to no longer have an honor roll

1:41:18 Because, uh... You know. It's the feelings of the dummies! Yes! I'm a dummy and i'm not on the honor roll and I feel slighted. Uh quote awards eventually lose their luster to students who get them while often hurting the self-esteem and pride of those who do not receive a certificate. A certificate for participation? Oh my god It's just all the competitiveness out of the whole Western society. See how we see what that gets us Well, it's not going to end up well I mean John just uh just you've been around a little bit longer than I have No, no you don't have to do that this is not twit. I'm not ageist um I have respect This week in ageism

1:42:14 You've I mean has it always been this nuts is it a little nuttier now? It does do you think that might have to do with we're just Annoyed by more as all out from the 60s. There's no doubt about it in the 70s What do you mean by that man, do your own thing? Oh man Oh man, do your own thing. Be nice! That's what it is from. It all came right from the drug smoking LSD era of the late 60s and 70s and you know... Ah man, do your own thing. Be nice

1:42:55 That never existed before then if people beat each other up and there it's So I my daughter was born in between because I was a very young dad, which i'm very very very thankful for For so many reasons but so she was born in 1990 And this is kind of but this was actually was it was a great time the 90s You know It's just money and everything was great. And it was you know yeah we had like that the first Gulf War or whatever that was. Hey CNN, that's an interesting channel you know it's like they got guys standing there and like bombs fall on them And that was kind of cool But but none of this insanity but somewhere It just is really and it's almost like parents who are... And the self-esteem movement had a lot to do with it Parents who were my age but have you know I have children Who are now six seven eight nine

1:43:45 They're just, they're not...they're crazy about this. What they are doing is hurting their children I think You know it's like wear a helmet to go outside and don't go outside at all. Wear a helmet? You walking down the street wearing a helmet! I'm not kidding man. I'm not kidding an everything so... There is nothing funnier than a little kid walking down the street with a helmet on his head. I can't wait to see what shows up for Halloween And I am sure we are going get in trouble you know for scaring kids Drunk because that is the plan no kidding. That's what you say it won't take much That's the good news for you yeah, you know you're not gonna spend a lot of money getting drunk that's for sure two glasses I'm done so but get there i think the sound system has to be there oh No we're gonna do this sounds just definitely the set the sound system is hey Bambi onto the stage

1:44:47 It's your name Bambi. You should ask every little kid that. Is your name Bambi? Wow, all right okay so I guess it just seems like it just that is just we've gone into a place of insanity...I don't know if we can return. Well yeah no we're not gonna return uh it gets returned and what happens is the natural competitiveness of people returns in a new way. It'll be the old form will remain, in other words we're gonna have to give out certificates of participation and we can't hurt somebody's feelings all that is... We're stuck with that forever but there are ways there will be some way of sublimating into something else so this will be some new way of making people feel bad

1:45:38 Well, I don't know what it is. But well maybe you know it's like I mean I'm used to kind of thing I was almost doing myself which you nixed by the way Which was if you're not listening to our podcast here's what you could be listening to some Horrible podcast or something that wasn't necessarily horrible. I want to hurt anyone Yeah, but that's what that's what you're mixing. That if that's what it amounted to was was telling me to be nice Well because I've heard someone's feelings even though these guys were getting publicity they loved It was not I don't care about people's feelings getting hurt as you know

1:46:18 But it's so aggravating because it fills up the mailbox, because I read my email. It's just also... You dick! Yeah pretty much you did-it's so much negativity that that i don't mind being negative about other people when when when people turn on me it's like ah... it's annoying because I got a job to do and the being honest it was a bad segment but the being honest and just saying what i feel about people in things is hard enough as-is with celebrities and uh... right, you've got the Obama bots tomorrow yeah oh by the way this is great talking about

1:46:55 just total stupid. I mean this is like a little podcast on the White House website so the White House sent out an email again yesterday, oh we know it's game six of the World Series but please look at the website it's good and we're getting it working and it's gonna be great! And they've put together...they've got the White House players So, you know they get straight from Central Casting and they got...they put together a little video to make you feel good about the healthcare.gov website that it's working and how to get through it so we took like some people who aren't native English speakers, some older people and to me this is just hilarious particularly because I think they're supposed to be recruiting young healthy people in order for the system to work

1:47:44 Which, you know... I would get like some real celebrities and have them do a cool video. Something that's really convincing but no instead we have this By the way these of course are the free loops that come with Final Cut Pro We keep hearing you know there are difficulties that they can't register But me and my daughter tried it first time and registered And it was very successful Have patience with the system What was that? Didn't hear it. This wasn't from the White House. There's no way they would put some unintelligible weirdo on there This is on the whitehouse.gov website and oh my god, and she said first time I tried it with my daughter I was successful first time first time I registered with my daughter He came ready to sit but me and my daughter tried then First time I registered and it was very successful It was very successful

1:48:41 Have patience with the system. Take your time, read the whole screen that you're on and make sure that you are following everything you can possibly follow but just don't give up because as time goes along things are definitely going to get better. What? I could just see people sitting there for days! I am not giving up. This was a heck of an endeavor The morning of October 1st, the first thing i did actually when i got out was to go check out healthcare dot gov Yeah this is so believable! It's October 1st! Oh i can't wait Which directed me to DC Health Link and within 15-20 minutes I had looked through all the plans decided what plan I want that sort of like what I had with my employer

1:49:29 I got all signed up. What i will say to people... I love it how its like, It was sort of like what I had with my employer Sort of you know kinda so yeah I took it! And then..I got all signed up What I would say to people when they have a problem with the website is that don't worry You wil get in Its really easy Any technology Take your time Down at the bottom of the page This is how Apple should do their iPhone commercials Don't worry really easy take a time just put your finger there and it come in work. Hello iPhone There was a bar that said having trouble logging in it told me to clear my Browsing history clear my cash and clear my cookies whatever those were

1:50:15 gave me the instructions on how to do it and once I did that, I went back onto the computer. And all my passwords for my porn sites were gone! Sailed right straight through no problems at all You can call the phone number they can send you something in the mail to fill out but don't give up because I think really everyone really should look if you don't have health insurance or you have private health insurance now that's not through your employer. Look to see if you can save money. Cobra was $600 and now an equivalent plan of what I had is $350 so, yeah, I'm saving it He's the one!

1:51:04 Of course the price was a perk, but I think that the policy itself is so much more inclusive than what I had before. I'm very pleased." Lenny Ruffenstahl called she wants her propaganda back! This will be shown one day and there will be children in the future who will view this as like we view grainy scratchy black-and-white grayed out stuff from World War II and go man they had some propaganda back in the day? Unbelievable! But of course we also have Joe O'Biden. And when you catch Joe in the halls and you ask him about stuff, you can always expect gold. We were under the impression that it was ready to go. Uh...we had the president to his credit uh almost seven weeks out saying are we ready? And he'd be told by the pros yeah this looks like it's all ready to go all in line and

1:51:57 Neither he and I are technology geeks. Really? You don't say! We assumed that it was up and ready to run, but the good news is although it's not... And we apologize for that we're confident that by the end of November will be and still be. I like how he says the good news is although it's not Joe. Joe, really? The good news is... Enough of Joe I did catch one thing interesting from Sibelius What have we always joked about when it comes to government websites? Well that they cost too much And what is the number? Eight million No 18 million Oh was it 18? I thought it was 8 I thought its always been an $18 million website I thought it was eight but okay eighteen's fine It's still too much

1:52:46 Let's find out what this one costs. We needed a real answer and I thought, pretty sure it was 18 million John? I guess i'm wrong. Can you give me a ballpark of what you have spent on this website that does not work that individuals cannot get to What is your cost estimate so far congresswoman we have spent about a hundred and eighteen million dollars on the website itself. I love it! A hundred and eighteen million? How do you spend that much money on a website that is nothing more than data capture, analysis and then forwarding systems? Funny you ask John You type in your name or social security number put as much information as you can probably put a lot of extra information so it can go into a database It gets stored in a database then you do a lookup

1:53:36 of your social security number and you see who this person is. And then since you already told them what state you're in, then it's supposed to either send you to the state site... Yeah all right stop just stop. This is not a hundred million dollar deal I have an IT insider A number of them actually contacted me and we were talking about rolling back one revision you know just using the versioning system and right. And my thesis was they don't have a revisioning system in place that they can do that. Hail the foots Adam and John so I don't work on the contract responsible for healthcare dot gov but i do work on another federal contract con contract, and he mentioned the agency which i'm going to omit to protect his identity cgi also works on this contract and i interface with them closely and on a daily basis these people are idiots

1:54:28 They don't know what, what git is got is or anything nor subversion or even crusty-ass RCS. Nothing is version controlled it's all seat of the pants when we move www dot something rather .gov the testing consisted of hey I'll run Apache bench which is typing a B from the command line and that's it When this story broke about their website, I knew what would be found. Half-assed testing! Unless CGI works differently on this contract than every other one... ...I promise they don't do version control. Federal IT work is like amateur hour at the Apollo."

1:55:07 Please keep my name private as I'm already having to feed my MILF and three-month old human resource poverty mac and cheese. I mean Unix admin, as well as a manager for another contractor for the government, yes specific questions etc., etc... And i received the same from multiple IT insiders that this is not version control You were right. Not subversion controlled. You can tell a mile away that it was going to be... and number two, they won't have this thing running like a champ by the end of November It'll be worse! Well maybe it's who knows if there is a reason for it Yeah there's a reason for it They took the money. It's like that comment we had in one of the clips The guy says uh One guy was discussing this he said

1:55:57 something like 92% of all contracts over 10 million or 100 million, one of the two are thievery. All folded they never work right yeah it ever worked ever yeah just money down the drain however it's a perfect opportunity once again and why doesn't somebody go to jail by the way? Oh fleets, no one is going to jail but we are going to promote yet more new internet services that are better Of course, we've had Kayak and Amazon. We have a new one in the mix John did you hear the new way? The kayak thing keeps coming up over and over what is who is something's well that's the Chicago we know it's Chicago. What's the Chicago thing okay That's right. Here's Mike Rogers who somehow was also in on this thing so not only isn't he's You know there's a common commonality in these things in the NSA and healthcare gov is Mike Rogers

1:56:50 And here he is promoting, I guess his favorite shop. Amazon would never do this. Pro Flowers would never do this. Kayak would never do this How come we get pro flowers all of a sudden? No, no, no...Pro Flowers was in the conversation before this one Yeah that they don't go down on Valentine's Day Yeah but why pro flowers? FTD and all these other bigger companies are the ones that would make more sense to promote But they promote pro flowers That's right Have you dug something up?

1:57:28 Well, we got our producers out there. So it's so up on someone's going to dig something some race They're saying pro flowers instead of FTD or which is the big one? Yeah But I did this is a gem of a clip This is uh now II don't watch her anymore because I find her so annoying but someone pointed this clip out to me Carol Costello She does the morning show on CNN. She used to be in the morning, until they decided they really didn't want anyone watching and they brought in that morning show with our friend Michaela so now we're 37 000 people now in the demo In fact on half of our stream that's working now more people are listening to this show than watch CNN's Morning Show Carol Costello comes after that she goes saying go to facebook.com slash carolcnn

1:58:20 But she let up a little thing about the Obama administration and the press, which was nice to know. There is a larger story which Jason began to touch on there and that is the Obama administration's thin-skinned we could call it or he mentioned the record prosecution of leaks It's...there's a consistency in the Obama administration of going after people who embarrass the administration but not those that take shots are cover for the administration And Will really does have a point because I felt it firsthand when i was you know reporting on the presidential race. I mean President Obama's people can be quite nasty they don't like you to say anything bad about their boss and they're not afraid to use what other means they have at hand to stop you from doing that including threatening your job Really? I love it

1:59:07 Well that doesn't sound right. From CNN no less, threatening your job! We're gonna get you fired for saying that Obama's not 6'1". You see the Valerie Jarrett was tweeting and whatever she'd like... FACT! It doesn't matter what she was tweeting but her Twitter name is what caught my attention VJ44 Alright Meaning she is the true 44th president I'm telling you. That's funny, he is crazy and so one of the things i got a couple of things here well actually you want to take our get our big donor list out of the way here before we go into some uh yeah that's a good idea. I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah

2:00:03 It's actually not a big list which is why we're gonna sneak it in. It's short list, we can get it out of the way and you hope to pick up on Sunday. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday... Daniel Ehrlich in Bowlesburg Pennsylvania $133.32 He may have a note in email I haven't seen it but he sent a check-in Keith McColpin in Imperial, Pennsylvania. Two Pennsylvanians right in a row $125. Now unfortunately... Go ahead I'd like to... We got your girlfriend listed on the happy birthday list if you could have Adam during the birthday segment reassure her that he's..I wanted to talk about this Reassure her that a new DMV picture does not look like a drunken celebrity photo mugshot now we don't have... I asked him for the picture because I don't think

2:00:56 it would make the girlfriend feel any better to say something like this if you haven't actually seen the picture. Yeah and I mean... It would be an insult to your girlfriend Amy! And depends, if she looks like Nick Nolte's celebrity mugshot we're gonna have to talk but... This is like an undoable quest yeah send us the picture and then you know then we can actually talk about it. We'll decide maybe but Obviously she feels bad. Who cares what your DMV photo looks like? By the way, I think it's actually kind of cool to have your DMV photo really with bug out eyes and really crazy. I had one about 25 years ago or so

2:01:41 I had my DMV photo and i had a pair of those they were kind of big glass this is during the Miami Vice era. My hair was swept back and you can't take pictures with, they won't let you take pictures with sunglasses on but these were those glasses that when light hit them they darkened really fast yeah yes yeah I don't know if we can buy those anymore but they just instantly darken so my DMV photo had me looking like some creep drug dealer with his dark glasses It was hilarious. Well, you know, you know Sir Gene right? Have you met ever met sir gene I've only got of only Corresponded with sir gene okay so sir gene and by the way apparently he's the one that's trying to get you to meet your buddy Brian Brushwood Yeah, no it's gonna happen. I'll meet with Brian And I'll be and I'll be packing heat you better

2:02:29 So Gene moves to Austin or wants to move, wanted to move to Austin. I said okay well i can hook you up with John and Chris the real estate boys and so they're driving around they're doing everything with gene trying to you know and every single time because he wanted to at least release something first He would put in for, you know to apply for the rent or whatever. Two things would happen first he'd write down under pets yes I have snakes which would always be kind of an issue with some of the homeowners, but then they'd have a copy of his driver's license. Now Sir Gene he has many many different looks I've seen him and he's like a chameleon and i guess that's part of what he does but his driver's license John it looks like an honest to god 100 percent Taliban card carrying terrorist with a beard like like like a crazy terrorist with a big black beard in the name didn't even say gene on should you just say Mohammed

2:03:30 the terrorist and I think that is the kind of picture you want basically. Something fun anyway yes so we don't have any making it rain donations today So we go from 125 to 100, and I do want to say that now have a pack of three different jingles. Which I wanted to play... You already heard it once maybe on the show? I wanted to play it because now if someone donates the Making It Rain 1111 then you get a choice. Straight from Reseda here she is Raven! Give it up! That'll be one of the Making It Rain Jingles that will now play for ya

2:04:09 By the way, Reseda is R-E-S-E-D-A. Somebody says it's not R-E-C whatever. Reseda is a little town in this San Fernando Valley which is the valley where all the porn is made. Okay here we go Todd Simmons, Simons in Brisbane Australia $100 and he needs some house buying karma since we were short today We might as well give him some You betcha! You've got karma And now we just run through what we got left, which is Joshua Baxter 88-88 in Fort Wayne Indiana. Nicholas Oman in Thief River Falls, Minnesota. Nuts! 77-77 Sir JD in San Jose California 77 47 and he's got some math here that he also wants a big F karma cancer shout out for his friend Karen and I definitely want to do that for him and his friends because he is of course a knight we break for knights

2:05:09 Break for nights. We do. And now we got down to... 69! 69, dude! Whoa-hoa! I see it. If this happens one more time or they were stopped the jingle is out. This is it? It's a little... 69 from Eric Nagel in Bunschoten Spakenburg at Utrecht. Bunschoten Spakenburg So there you go, he's a knight today. Is he a knight today? Oh really! Now that's awesome let me make sure we've got... yeah He'll be Sir Erik Nagel Knight of Spakenburg nice

2:05:49 Congratulations. Baronet Oleg Rakitini, or Rakiteen in Richmond Hill Ontario 6789 Keith Edwards 6666 which is a nice one by the way 6 7 8 9 that's kind of cool six seven eight nine is cute yeah I'm Gilbert Arizona these are all 60 final our final 6666 we're gonna let this go one more show and then after Sunday night the sixty-six sixty thing but button on the PayPal is going to be discontinued so this will be your last chance to congratulate us on our sixth anniversary. Keith Edwards, Gilbert Arizona, it's Stephan, Agarhoodie... Agarhoody? Agarhoodie!

2:06:31 Southampton, UK. Eric Thorsenberg in Norway William Bau- Bachman is actually the way it's pronounced in Port Wyniemie Very good California Robert Goschko in Sherwood Park Alberta where all the money is Mickey Kennedy and Kingsville Maryland Jarrus Corporation in Arlington Virginia Hello! Say no more Robert Dimoff in London, England and finally Mike he says I'd like his note thought. I better get out on the action need to support the Freddy the firewall firmware upgrade uh-huh Uh-huh Michael Segan hot thaller in parts unknown Matthew ma worder in Bend Oregon

2:07:17 Chris Johnstone in Tapping, Australia and Anonymous from Parts Unknown. And finally Sir Alan Bean who usually comes in every month with $50 he came up with 6666 and a note of apology. He said I don't know what he was talking about to be honest about it but he says he insulted us But it was just in jest. No, I think he said to note about something and you know what? Knights can never insult me You can come up to my face spit it out and say douchebag And I'll be like that's cool man. You're a knight. Yeah if your a knight then you have privileges. Hell yeah Eric Hochel in Berlin Deutschland $52 Right on the street from Laura Poitras

2:08:05 probably Kevin Payne keep an eye on her. Kevin Payne in Chantilly, Virginia $50 and 69 cents And finally Alex Schoenveld in Sun Prairie Wisconsin $50 Ultimate Gaming Hardware Richfield Minnesota and finally Finally finally Carol Barron in Malmo Sweden Carl Barron did I say Carol? Oh sorry Carl Carl Baron in Malmo which is the southern little town I've been there. Cute little place Really? Yeah, yeah you can get you can take this subway essentially or the transit or whatever this the tram from Copenhagen now it takes you to Malmö or it's like I guess it's the train but he goes across a new bridge

2:08:51 It's a train. It's got a bridge track on it and you go across and you're in Malmo, then you look around and say wow this is small town. There's nothing here to do. You get back on the train... Where are the babes at? No babes. What?! Just Malmo. it's not worth it. That's the Muslim area where a lot of Muslims are and then we have a special karma request uh and as you know we break for nights doesn't compare to the f cancer karma but it's a life changer for Dame Melissa, Sir Alec who was knighted before birth that's the breast milk and pablum kid and myself We're struggling with bank-related computer failures in the application for our first house. It's not looking too positive right now, and this is THE house for us! I hope i haven't missed the deadline for this karma request thank you from Sir Todd, Dame Melissa and Sir Alec And uh... The karma of course is coming your way but I will tell you if something is stopping you it wasn't THE house Take it from someone who has bought and sold houses right into the poorhouse actually

2:09:55 You've got karma. I'd say that's the rule, if something is stopping you from getting it, it is not the house Would you agree John? I wouldn't argue with that. You gotta sell that place, man! There in San Francisco... I got time. The 2017 deadline's a ways off. No but it's like its hot now before the bubble bursts and everyone's like you just crazy I know my house went up like half-a-million dollars in the last... And was only worth 100 grand double wide. It's amazing. Half a million? Did you just say that?! Sell this thing

2:10:32 Yeah, we're working on it. I mean you don't really gotta clean it out can you imagine yeah? Oh Wow I need to bring pros in that's a reality show is what that is We could actually sell archive and your just like moving the Smithsonian the Smithsonian Institute exactly Hmm do you know that I would I seriously I would rent a trailer. I'd park an RV next to it, well you can't really do that because you don't have one next to it but down on the street and I would create a reality show about emptying out that place. And to have you like... It's boring. No look at this! Everyone who did like there is just a bunch of stuff in the basement so you go down and grab a box of stuff because the idea is take a box and throw it out

2:11:27 But you can't. You go through, wow where did you get this clipping? Holy mackerel! Look at this half a thing I know it would be beautiful This is a dream It's kind of a combination between hoarders and um And what's the uh The storage unit Oh that's storage Wars Storage wars It'd be hoarder storage wars Is what it is Yeah I can pitch it It's like Um Dustin Hoffman meets Storage Wars meets Hoarders with a little bit of Duck Dynasty thrown in.

2:12:04 I could sell this, man. All right? I'm just saying it'd be great. Hey thank you very much we of course understand that the list is shorter today because of the big celebrations but uh yeah the usual suspects came in and some new ones as well to support us and prop us up when we of course highly appreciate that It keeps us going it's the only way this show works until John can sell the house But of course that's the end of an era cause then he'll have to move to Washington This is why you don't want to sell it. I think i'd rather move someplace, not going to move to Washington we want to sell that place too! Oh really? There's better places to live Yeah where would you want to live? I wanna get a Pinot Noir vineyard in the Dundee Hills area of Oregon. Oregon interesting also no income tax in Oregon. No there's income tax in Oregon and there's no sales tax. The income tax in Oregon... your best bet here's your bet

2:13:03 Because Oregon's income tax, even though there is no sales tax which saves you a ton of money. But their income tax is the same as California. Here's what you want... You want to move to southern Washington, the Vancouver area, southern Washington and you want to ride across from Portland, and you get no personal income tax when you live in there. But then you drive across the bridge to Portland do all your shopping because there's no sales tax going back and forth it's a very short drive now they're trying according to one of my correspondents he says that yes this is the best idea ever except they're trying to create an $8 toll on this bridge per axle

2:13:41 the cheap bastards. Right, right, right... Anyway Okay but so you're looking to kind of settle down a little retire I don't know what we're doing okay? I'm sorry didn't mean that way You trying to roust me Well no i'm um No We're actually seriously thinking about moving Austin how do you think that would work out Is that really is that a serious uh My wife hates Texas Well, she's never been to Austin has she? No. Well then how can she hate it? She just does! Shes bigoted when it comes to some things that's one of them. It's alright. Too hot Yeah, now I'm sure the rain is nice where she is now. I'm only saying because I'm your friend Then I feel I need to alert you to a market-based circumstance That you know You may not be taking advantage of because I very familiar with these ups and downs pretty much yeah But how old are we gonna be on the next up? It's going up now. That's what I'm saying here but there's this is a bubble

2:14:40 And it's going to pop and there is gonna be blood on the moon as my mom would say. That's a great saying, do you know this saying? Blood on the moon? Yeah and I don't know what it refers to... I don't where comes from either One of those 60s things There's gonna be blood on the moon Because it's gonna be... I'm working on it, believe me. It's going to be a slaughter when all of these stupid companies that have all received angel funding That's another great Ponzi scheme Calacanis, I'm looking at you This is angel funding and then been slurped up with total rip-off contracts by venture capitalists Basically robber barons When all this stuff just falls apart there's gonna be blood on the moon

2:15:24 It's gonna be horrendous. San Francisco, they might as well just chop that piece off and let it float away into the ocean. It could happen by itself This is true Alright thank you all very much for your support it is highly appreciated We don't take no venture capital funding like lots of the news outfits today to vorac dot org slash n a And we don't take it from rich billionaires either although...we're open to conversations It's your birthday, birthday Paul Vela, congratulations. He celebrates today turning 45 Keith McCoupland says happy birthday to his girlfriend Amy She celebrated looks like she celebrated yesterday But it says today but we'll just say happy birthday to her and Ultimate Gaming Hardway says Happy Birthday to Corey Mack

2:16:13 And we congratulate all of you from your buddies here the best podcast in the universe And then we have a couple of nightings to do this is kind of exciting As we have double knighting for the brothers, and we have Sir Wilbert. And then Sir Eric who just all of a sudden discovered that he was a knight? This is how it goes... Draw the blade out there and I would like to ask... Alright, David Julian James Julian step forward Wilbert wraps and Eric novel come on down to now pronounce the sir

2:16:56 Julian and Sir James Julian, Sir Wilbert Raps and Sir Eric Nachel Knight of Spakenburg. That's right join our round table where we have the rewards of hookers and blow, geishas and fried chicken, rambos and chardonnay hot pants and booze wenches and beer, geishes and sake, vodka and vanilla bong hits and bourbon mutton and mead! And of course if you choose we can still bring out the opium and warm orange juice We have a little left over from our knighting the other day from our China night The next night from China we'll get that same, I'm sure. That's that same service? Exactly What am i hearing So I have a nothing No I heard something really weird in the background You know what was funny so last night I'm prepping and everyone Is that what you call it Preppin' I'm preppin', and everyone knew we had a huge storm coming And I have my new handheld ham radio

2:17:53 Yeah, with the one with APRS which is like this cool digital messaging thing. I don't never mind and and all of a sudden to go What the hell and Apparently it has the analog old-school giant voice system built in for the National Weather Service and the National Weather Service can trigger an alert on this thing. And it was pretty cool because it switches over, uh...and you get a really detailed uh...alert The National Weather Service- those guys are good! I mean they know right down just..it was...I was impressed I have to say. Well I guess. Yeah, I was very impressed. And they were right flooding everything was pretty bad here well that's what happens when you have people living in flood plains we don't live in the flood plain so

2:18:40 I have so uh do so ah So, um, by the way. I have a hummer for the next show That's an ummer actually and I think she may be getting close to the record Another spokes hole from some operation Oh excellent i have an all-purpose evergreen classic street comment that you can use at any time You want? I think this is another one that should go into the files under the evergreen files okay to be used on any occasion. I'm concerned, it's scary. That was a very good one! It fits into everything...I am concerned it is scary. Yeah, I am putting this into the evergreen file right now and yeah I think sometimes... I'm concerned it's scary Very good, very good John, I like that a lot

2:19:31 I ran into the, by the way, the Euronews. Oh yes! Which i've been listening to those guys they actually you know that right our news all our news outlets in the United States, particularly even the BBC and others you have it that Russia has anti-gay laws anti gay anti...you know for the Olympics just to try I don't know who's trying to extort who but whatever. Whereas we know these are really laws that are pitted against the American entertainment industry to charge tens of thousands of dollars for violations a promiscuity law not an anti gay law

2:20:07 But at least these guys got the thing, so they did have an anti-gay kind of a theme but they actually got the gist of the basis correctly and I was actually stunned by this. As Russia prepares to host next year's Winter Olympics President Vladimir Putin is keen to make sure nothing derails its success Introducing the head of the International Olympic Committee to host City Sochi, Putin says everyone will be welcome. He's been accused of discrimination against homosexuals by his critics but stresses there'll be nothing of the sort at the Games.

2:20:47 We're doing everything, our organizers, athletes and fans so that participants and guests feel comfortable in Sochi regardless of nationality race or sexual orientation. The International Olympic Committee has praised preparations for the games, but a new Russian law banning homosexual propaganda among minors has been casting a shadow over the lead-up to the event. Yeah well not really Putin now moves ahead of President Obama in the Forbes power ranking list I'm sure you saw this yep which i think is

2:21:30 Right on. Did I send you that thing, like 23 pictures comparing Putin to Obama? Forbes always gets everything slightly off but you know... It doesn't matter! The whole ministry of truth is just funny Another reason to put out a picture of Putin with his shirt off on that horse Or catching huge sharks I love it! That's some propaganda right there You know, what do we get of our president? Running around the pool with a little plate water gun. Right. Driving a bicycle with this stupid helmet on his head. It's really dumb I've got a document here which i'm not going to dissect but you should just have it in your arsenal Just download from the show notes 561.nashownotes.com It'll be under clips and stuff that's where all the clips and stuff goes

2:22:28 It is from the European Union, a 60 page document technical report John titled Development of EU eco-label criteria for flushing toilets and urinals. Now they're spending their time on valuable information This it really is we are now going to have like you know like we have the labeling system if something's Energy Star compliant for electrical devices so now you're going to have crapper compliant yeah how much they flush, how they flush what system, oh how much water they use. How much? Yeah 60 pages of this stuff! 60 pages of the phone brother toilet and urinal is a urinal or your rhinal

2:23:22 It's urinal. In England they say your urinal They do? Yeah, it tripped me out the first time I heard that You sure what they weren't just messing with you No no no i'm pretty sure it's urine Urinal Your highness, urinal Toilet and urinal suites and flush free urinals are the functioning units And as such represented the core of the scope Oh man Nevertheless, there is need for including in the product group both suites one-piece products and independent equipment such as toilet receptacles urinals and flushing systems which make functioning units only when combined. We are really barking up the wrong business tree Can you imagine just doing a 60 page report on toilets? It's unbelievable! It's it's the European Union man...and I caught a thing

2:24:14 Where is it? So they had their big, their big who-how. The big powwow thing and I was listening to this report and then something caught my ear. Heads of state and government under... That's Haiku Herman of course. ...the close relationship between Europe and the United States and the value of that partnership. They expressed their conviction that a partnership must be based on respect and on trust. So I was hearing this, and now something came up like hold on a second... Including as concerns the work and cooperation of secret services. On economic matters the leaders discussed ways to strengthen the banking union and keep up momentum on the EU's roadmap for economic and monetary union Did you know that this banking-union thing had gone into effect?

2:25:06 I think i might have. Because it only got signed on the 15th and I didn't hear any reports about this at all, except as I went looking I'm like banking union? So what they've done is of course what was the plan all along... They've created a union like the European Union of States and Peoples etc., except for the banking system And of course, this is going to save the citizenry so you don't have to pay for mistakes made by the banks. But somehow I doubt that...I found a little report which i thought was just enlightening because you can't have any kind of union without some awesome new buildings The skyscrapers of Europe's banking centers are imposing structures but they've also become symbols of crisis and taxpayer bailouts

2:25:57 Finance ministers in Luxembourg agreed the new EU banking supervisor would monitor banks to identify problems early and head off future financial crises. We need the new banking supervisors so that taxpayers are shielded. Banks will pay for banks and to have this prevention system up and running." When building is complete on the European Central Bank's new headquarters, the new authority will start work here in a year. It will be tasked with keeping tabs on Europe's 130 top banks

2:26:34 First on the agenda is a stress test. Results would indicate whether lenders have enough capital The finance ministers still have a lot to decide Central questions are who pays if a bank cannot pass the stress test and what happens if a bank goes bust before the resolution mechanism is in place Germany thinks that it's mainly the players and the private sector who are to be held responsible Other nations think that banks should have easier access to public bailout funds Hello! Yeah, enjoy that. You're all in. I mean this is like obviously there's somethings up Well i think it's Italy. Italy essentially just fell over the cliff

2:27:15 You know, maybe five or six months ago there was these reports like oh Italy's on the upswing and everything is great. And you know it looks like we're coming out of this and it turns out that all they had really done is the department that evaluates the economy had changed the questions on questionnaires something! And now it turns out Oh yeah youth unemployment 40%. you know, moving towards what Spain is. I mean you cannot turn around the eurozone without Italy. Italy is humongous and to have youth... we're talking 25 year olds these aren't teenagers! 25 year olds no job? No job?! Yeah well you have too many of them and then you end up with a government overthrow yeah they're just trying..I think what they're doing is they're looking around saying this is not good

2:28:05 this could cause an issue. We have to create a fascist state, the entire EU has to be locked down militarized state like the US has done see what way they do it? That's the way you do it. You militarize put lots of cops everywhere make everybody in the military play anthems all the time we play more anthems in this country nowadays in the baseball game besides playing the national anthem at the beginning of the game Now in the seventh inning stretch they play America the beautiful with a bunch of military guys standing around it used to be take me out To the ballpark. Yeah, we used to be what I think no No You got to play more military stuff and a flyover which God knows what those costs And so they fly over So we get we've got it down us We've done a good job where the Empire and we have this all set up people ask me why people asked me Why I'm not interested in sports

2:28:59 Because it's militaristic crap meant to keep men, you know, keep their testosterone at the right levels. You know just just got a yell a little bit once in awhile. It doesn't hurt so whatever the case that Europeans because all they have is soccer which has gotta be there and field hockey. We have female field hockey Well, lacrosse is good too. So they don't have quite the militarized clamp down that could keep some minor revolution from occurring and look what happened in Greece! I mean they didn't report it much here but we watched it was just riots left and right They don't report anything. Even worse than that you know they arrested like 20 guys from the Golden Dawn party They arrested them

2:29:49 And people are rioting now because of course the Golden Dawn party is being seen as, you know they're fascists. They're neo-Nazis and this is just what is being reported in some Western media I'm not so sure, you know. I always have to question it." I look at him as kind of libertarians with... Yeah because i remember Pim Fortuyn when I was living in the Netherlands and he was like he's the Dutch Le Pen! He's a guy who is 6'5", bald gay guy, professor who just said it like it was. He said hey man you know this Muslim stuff is gonna come and bite you in the ass we got to like do something about this and then he got assassinated a week before his party won the elections. Assassinated! Just shot...in Holland

2:30:41 And so I don't buy any of that. In fact, I have a clip interesting you bring it up. Around 1,000 supporters of the far right Golden Dawn party took to the streets... Far-right? It could be 10,000 supporters for all we know. ...of Athens on Sunday The group chanted Greece belongs to the Greeks and slogans against the Prime Minister. They are demanding the release of six MPs including their leader who faced charges for being part of a criminal organization. Last week, the government cut off state funding of the group and lifted their immunity pending trial.

2:31:20 Earlier on, an anti-fascist demonstration took place which aimed to march on the headquarters of the party dubbed a neo-Nazi criminal gang by the government. Police trucks were positioned to keep the two groups apart and the day passed without incident. It was the murder of an anti-fascist rapper last month, allegedly by a member of Golden Dawn which triggered public outrage putting pressure on the government to take a stand. It's a lot of alleged and... Yeah these stories sound pretty bogative And I love how immunity and money was all stopped before the trial

2:31:58 Yeah, that way you can't spend it. That's the way you can afford a lawyer. It's a good gag. This is not new. We do that here we confiscate everything and then you're kind of on your own. You have to go to a public defender So there's somethings gonna happen on November 1st. I've got this watch November 4th in Egypt that when they start throwing dates out at you for specific things and by the way, that would be one week after the six-week thing so something if we're gonna have that six weeks which may yeah But this it has to be FBI related down think why no but this is just saying This I don't know what the point of this throwing this date out is and its got do with Egypt? Mm-hmm, but something's gonna happen on the fourth in Egypt at least

2:32:39 Photos released said to show the moment of arrest. The Egyptian authorities have detained senior Muslim Brotherhood leader Esam al-Arian as the crackdown against the Islamist movement continues. Arian is said to have been taken from a Cairo residence where he'd been in hiding The Muslim Brotherhood group was banned and many of its leaders detained after the army deposed Islamist president Mohamed Morsi last July. At least 1,000 people have died in the violence that followed Before his detention Ariane had described the deposing of Morsi as a divergence from the true democratic path and called for dialogue

2:33:16 Morsi supporters have called on Egyptians to hold mass protests on November the 4th, the day their leader goes on trial for inciting murder raising the prospect of more bloodshed as the country's political crisis goes on. Oh yeah that is going to be a nightmare It's a nightmare now. And what course, what do we have? What's our kind of thing and what kind of protests are wild things that we have to moan and groan about with drones and murdering Americans and all the rest of it. We have Napolitano running in going to take over the University of California. So we have a protest that goes something like this

2:33:53 Sorry, man. I don't know what oh man. I do it. I got an Apollo time There's only one mention of her in this whole list yeah But it see but I look at has to be the first word because its alphabetical don't you understand? It's hey Hey, okay small cheese. No. I was invited to pet a shark. I just got here from Washington I've had my fill of sharks. While Napolitano may have left Washington behind, her legacy as Homeland Security Chief follows. Hey! Hey! Oh no! Napolitano has got to go! Protesters chanted outside Napolitano's visit today to Oakland Tech

2:34:33 saying she's not the right fit for UC. Janet Napolitano under the administration of Obama was responsible for escalating federal immigration enforcement and recorded and deported a record number more than two million immigrants from this country You know what's crazy about this? I'm sorry.

2:35:09 Can these can protesters in the United States come up with something other than hey, ho, hey, ho, ho, XYZ has got to go? Yeah. That is the stupidest thing I hear it There's a you know, they're protesting General Electric. You know hey hey ho-ho this assholes gotta go I mean Anyway go on well first. I'd like to point out that they're protesting immigration This is Berkley how about the police state? How about the militarization of state and local police forces through... how about the suspicious activity reporting, the brown shirt Stasi Nazi crap that she instituted? That's like gouging for tuition. No I know but i'm just saying that you know The best protest we have in the United States of America and in fact in many countries around the world is this podcast!

2:36:07 This is the best! That's pretty pathetic if you think about it. It's extremely pathetic But hey, hey ho-ho does not have to go And I saw what's her name? Mina You know the code pink lady Oh god Did you see her she was... I get a kick out of that She's cute by the way but she's just super cute You just want to pick up little pixie cute Well you say that because your'e man I sure do But she was sitting behind Kaiser Alexander and all those guys with the giant sunglasses on you know, the huge like The funny the joke sunglasses that are twice as big as your head and it said stop spying on the glasses

2:36:55 And she's on her website, I bet they hated that. Really? We need some... it's gonna come down to bad stuff maybe you think the university student Nah, it's just not gonna happen. It was just not everyone's like yeah So damn I get depressed when I do when I think about it John you got to pull me out of that I get really depressed Okay Well here's something I want you to deconstruct interesting Greenland news is very strange story Greenland's parliament has voted to end a decades-long ban on mining for radioactive materials such as uranium. Greenland, an autonomous Danish territory is looking to boost its economy which is currently dependent on fishing and Danish subsidies

2:37:48 It's very important. The company expects a turnover of 9 billion kroner, Greenland GDP is 12 billion it will be close to doubling the GDP it wil have a huge impact on greenlandic society." The project has been criticized by environmental groups with NGOs warning the mining wil threaten Arctic's ecosystem. British company London Mining has won the contract to extract the iron deposits." I thought that was a weird story and by the way what is Greenlandic society anyway? It's something we make up on television. So, I thought that was interesting because their nuke thing may be going on in the background where people are you know just trying

2:38:51 Quiet information repressed so you don't get speculators jumping in right and buying up mining companies. Um Anyway, just it's out of the blue nobody's talked about it No I saw a new thing come on to the scene we had a lot of doctors Who would listen to this show also a disproportionate amount of dentists? Listen to the show for some reason well. We have a we have a dentite night Yeah, I know I know but we have just a lot of oral professionals That's right in more ways than one that's right hey all oral professionals that girl Stop stop

2:39:33 So here's a new one and where did this I saw this article? It was like, oh my god This is you know we're always on the lookout for little memes and things that the pharmaceutical and healthcare industry Essentially will do just to just crazy crap. So we've had this pre-cancer thing that we've been looking at which isn't like You know everyone's pre cancer But I think that they are kind of catching onto that And so now we have something new called Stage 0 cancer. That's a good one! Yeah, stage zero breast cancer—a new term many women will start hearing particularly as it relates to breast exams mammograms so stage zero cancer is what they're calling it stage zero cancer and essentially you can have

2:40:30 Okay, I love this. According to oncologist Dr. Arkana Maini stage 0 breast cancer is an earlier indicator of a potentially serious disease quote it's pre malignant so left on its own it would have developed into an invasive cancer but maybe not A stage zero diagnosis is most often made following a mammogram that detects a lesion on the breast. Now having some fatty tissue or something in a mammogram is not uncommon, I know a lot about this I would say and you know the problem that I have as these reports come out and this type of new classification now that we have new health care laws in place

2:41:19 where you can have the Angelina Jolie procedure done and it's insured. Just, you know like oh, you might have the gene, you might be stage zero... I think we're all stage zero just lop them off! And this is concerning because then I believe this is just being done for profit not that would be unusual yeah well but people need to know this because the same people who put helmets on their kids when they go to walk to school were like Oh Yeah No Oh, it's science. I gotta go... oh no! And speaking of which and this will end up my day because the transhumanist stuff is really bugging me and one of our producers let me see if i can find his note i may not be able to get to a quick enough sent me Let me see he sent me a note about a Yahoo sports story uh let me just see where is it? I'm so sorry I wasn't quite prepared for this

2:42:24 But it's important. Uh, okay I can't find it... Okay Yahoo Sports Story about the Cougars versus oh hold on a second no is it the Cougars? I just have to find it here for a second. Is that my football team the Jaguars? Jaguars! That's it. Yeah Cougars, Jaguars is all this that actually helps me find-find the story uh why can't I find it You can summarize. Yeah, I can summarize... Okay so it was on Yahoo Sports and it was essentially um...I wanted to read it that's why I'm angry about this because I was so sure that I had saved it and is a sports story that was written automatically by an outfit called Automated Insights

2:43:16 In fact, I'm going to play the... because i found this company and I'll play this little bit of a video they have on their website just to ease you into the idea of computers writing your news. And then I'll see if I can find this actual report and read it to you I have a background in both computer science and on the writing side. So, I have computer science degrees from East Carolina University and master's degrees from MIT as well as history with O'Reilly. I've authored or co-authored 10 movies... When I started thinking about an interesting business to create, I wanted to sort of marry my two passions which was programming and writing. And that's what led me to Automated Insights We take data generate interesting content and stories from data So purely from data we can generate narrative content in either long or short form visualizations interactive content applications and mobile and social content Human readable content derived from data through software

2:44:23 So fundamentally it's about having software do writing for you. Yeah, so here it is Jaguars pounded by the 49ers Yahoo Sports Pounded by the way what was the name of that company? It does the automated one Automated Insights Okay go which you can find at I guess automated insights calm the jet okay jaguars Just this is this is your future hey Marissa Meyer good work here we go Jaguars pounded by 49ers, 42 to 10. The Jaguars were dismantled by the 49ers, 42 to 10 comma at home. Chad Henney completed 29 of 45 passes for 228 yards one touchdown and no interceptions. Colin Kaepernick ended up going ten of 16 with a hundred- Colin Kaepernick! Ended up going ten of sixteen with 164 yards passing three touchdowns one pass two rush and no interceptions

2:45:20 Maurice Jones drew was a key factor for the Jaguars, comma. Rushing for 75 so it's all stats. Yeah you take stats and you write this bullcrap in it there was a key factor and then what they lost how is he a key factor? Doesn't even say key factor You said he was a key factor Well yeah right that's the key factor Where does it say key factor? You said it. You read it! Oh, Maurice Jones Drew was a key factor for the Jaguars That's what you said right? Yeah there you go Okay well let me just ask you this He was the key factor in what?! For the Jaguars They lost the game to that guy Okay thank you I knew we pulled this apart he says he was a key factor for the Jaguar He is a key factor of loss? He's a key factor in them losing? Yeah This is your future sports reporting John When you finally buy the farm

2:46:11 and get out of, get out of reporting. Get out of writing! This is what... We're gonna have this automated insights we'll just take over it'll be okay here's the John C Dvorak automated insight script Jaguars crap Jackpots suck, Niners win. That's code? I fell short though. This is great alright so this is part of...this should be not accepted okay this should be not accepted it's just not okay and for Yahoo Sports to publish this and actually put ads on this page is an insult to people who read Yahoo Sports

2:46:54 This only leads to, of course more transhumanist activity that is taking place. And something that has been bothering me for a while and I'm sure you've seen the ads is luminosity! Have you seen this luminosity stuff? Yeah but I'm not sure what you're referring to because I don't know that it's stuck in my... I shall play the commercial one of the many I think Is it gonna play? Here we go. I do it to stay sharp, I take care of my body but it's harder to work out my brain. WillowMosity.com is based on neuroscience and it just seems like games but its serious brain training. I am happier with my brain definitely

2:47:38 No matter why you want a better brain, Lumosity.com can help It's like a personal trainer for your brain Improving your performance with the science of neuroplasticity Science! But in way that just feels like games Start training with Lumosity.com right now and discover what your brain can do Neuroplasticity And it's Lumosity I'm sorry not luminosity Lumosity.com and this is an Indian cabal As heavily venture funded. We can do that right? Heavily ventured, venture funded and they've got ads everywhere and it's like you know It's great it's like oh you can train your brain in like this is so bogus and bogative

2:48:24 And by the way, since we brought it up these Indians who never contributed to show you know that English speaking people in India itself have plenty of opportunity and many of them listen. They're all boners right? Yeah I want to might as well play a clip. Uh-huh. Play the contaminated spices clip A wake-up call. That's what some people are calling a new FDA analysis that found about 12% of spices brought to the U.S. are contaminated with insects, rodent hairs and other unsavory items Researchers also found nearly 7 percent of spice imports examined were contaminated with salmonella

2:49:00 The FDA says most of the insects and insect parts found in the spices are typical of those that would be living in warehouses. Spice imports from Mexico and India were found to have the highest rate of contamination." Yeah, exactly! They don't donate all they do is give us bugs...and hair. Bugs and rat hair? Thanks! Thanks India! So they've got this, but this idea... and luckily I'm having dinner with the O-Bots which of course includes our actual brain professor. Professor Russ! The official brain professor of the No Agenda Show. I'm gonna have to call him and say dude what is going on with this? Because it's the same people who put the helmet on the kid and oh you can't be a cowboy or Indian for Halloween They're like let's pay Lumosity money so we can train your brain

2:49:55 Brain training John ask about the plasticity come and the neuroplasticity Yeah, ask him what is that? And see what he says I know it's gonna say this is a crock of crap as well as you parlor trick says what he's gonna Say so we've got Kunal Sarkar CEO and co-founder. Prior to founding Lumosity, he co founded private equity fund AIMLP which manages $400 million in capital. This is like a toy for these boys! You got Krishna Kakarala Well, they're racist. They're racist because all they have is white people on their site! I guess it's just the white dummies need to get this program. I skipped over some of the white people who work there. Oh yeah, there are a couple... Good. They got some token whiteys like uh oh no she looks Iranian and Persian almost where is she Dr Farzin? Where is she from?

2:50:54 She's at Lumos Labs. So then they kind of like part the partners on this thing, what do we have? Blue Shield Blue Cross really is this going to be covered by insurance I can get Lumosity and they got a whole bunch of people in neuroscience from Boston University Johns Hopkins so yeah this is gonna be very interesting but the idea that you can train your brain with some kind of exercises you know yeah you could also just read Read more. Yeah, do a Sudoku. Just yeah read! Learn a musical instrument. Pick up a newspaper pick up but yeah learn a musical instrument this is game but people want these shortcuts they want shortcuts to you know it's fixing my brain is making my brain healthier It's so much better enter My new favorite toy which you can pre-order the Aero transhumanistic bracelet

2:51:53 This thing is an outrage and of course we have a video which is proudly displayed on their site. This thing is amazing John! A-I-R-O? Yeah There's more to health and wellness than just counting steps It's what you eat, how you sleep your stress levels and your exercise But life is busy And it's hard to keep an eye on everything Life is busy?! It's hard to keep an eye on everything That's why I use Arrow It's a wristband that keeps track of my lifestyle Oh god, I have to stop. It's a wristband that takes the keeps track of your lifestyle. Help me look better take food for example It's pretty cool there is no need to take pictures or add up calories There is a built-in spectrometer right here that keeps track of how many calories I've eaten as well as their nutritional quality

2:52:45 I eat. Arrow keeps track of when I exercise as well as how I exercise it measures the intensity of my activity, as well as the number of calories that I burn in the morning arrow wakes me up at the best time possible so that i can start my day feeling refreshed and alert let me just review up until this point So you actually see her eating a bowl of twigs and branches, and she's like I don't have to worry about what I eat because the bracelet is keeping track of the calories. Because it has some magical thing that scans through your skin and measures how many calories you ate AND how many you burned while exercising! And it wakes you up at the most optimal time for YOU which on her bracelet is like 845. Yeah bitch?

2:53:29 Some people have to get up at 6.30 to go to work, so I don't know about your bracelet waking you up at 8.45 that's real nice and all but wait! There's more it takes care of her at work when your- I know she may not work at noodles It also keeps track on how many hours of deep sleep I get each night Woohoo! And at work It keeps track of my stress level in real time and will give me a heads up if it's getting too high. So it tracks your stress level at work and gives her a heads up, If she is too stressed And you see your iPhone and says You are to stressed! Let's try some breathing exercises Man...and I know so many people who are going be all in on this It even recommends specific exercises to keep calm Exercises to keep calm

2:54:16 But my favorite part is that Arrow puts all of this information into helpful, showing me where I'm doing well and where I can improve. Real-time notification and daily updates make it easy for me to understand my health and maintain a healthy lifestyle. And shifts are right for the insurance company! Of course!! Of course, but I mean when did we imagine your insurance company requiring this? That's oh yeah. Oh well It's just like what you set these companies up exactly it's just like the black realize how much money you can save on your individual Components within the insurance system if you make them wear these little bracelets or callions California profit to you California Just approved the black box didn't they pretty yeah i'm pretty sure yeah You got a black box for insurance purposes Yeah

2:55:02 Yeah, it's all in. It's good to go they improve they yeah I'm pretty sure I had a story about that Yes The black box here this black box in your car source of tax revenue from the LA Times You ask and we play here we go I'll give you the I'm sure its progressive but Oh, this is they want this for the new road tax. That's what it is because you know obviously People are driving electric cars and you know They're not buying enough gasoline that's right to spend it to pay the taxes on the gasoline because first I've been encouraged to drive electric cars They were encouraged to get good gas mileage but because they're getting good gas mileage It's kind of screwing up the numbers so we have to gouge them in some other way

2:55:50 Well, not just them. Everybody! Well everybody yeah everybody So while Congress this is the LA Times well Congress can't agree on whether to proceed several states are not waiting they're exploring Hold on a second shouldn't the public which has been encouraged to save money by dinky little cars great gas mileage, be rewarded for their efforts to save the environment and stop global warming rather than being gouged by one of these new systems. Yes you're getting what you get a fun new gadget this is your... What's your problem? This is great! This is what we want I think that this should be added into the Aero bracelet so that it knows when I'm driving

2:56:37 Which, you know when you're walking because it's rare and tear on the sidewalks. Exactly so pay your fair share. Especially if you're jogging it's tearing up the place! Pay your fair share You've got to pay for your fair share of carbon tax for living, for breathing, for exhaling This is not going in the right direction But apparently California is... I think Washington State may be in on it too John, I'm thinking And there is a big Berkey water filter ad Thanks had mine for a year. Maybe you want to second one? Anyway, so the idea is GPS put into your car and it'll be for your insurance it'll be uh for your taxes... We can make some money on this deal! No we can't- A little bitty scramblers just some sort of device that doesn't have to be like an illegal FCC scrambler those are already illegal no no this wouldn't be one of those good ones excuse me any gps

2:57:39 Scrambler is illegal in many states. Do something to the ignition system so the car is popping little... There's got to be some way of creating an interference pattern within the GPS system that looks like it was not your fault bug The GPS jammers, I think they're um.. They may be...I don't know what level they are? GPS jammer They're illegal, man. You can't... Well they all the old jammers are illegal! They didn't used to be? The old phone jammers are illegal Are they? Yeah oh yeah That's not like anybody knows what to do if they find one but they were out to get ya Here it is Creating quiet zones through the use of GPS jamming is more... It's illegal Practice is illegal and being enforced by the Federal Communications Commission Enforcement Bureau How about this then No jammer whatsoever

2:58:39 Faraday cage. I got one in my wallet! You need one that gives bogative data What you want is, you want to feed the device with bogative data. If it's just like no data received then eventually someone is going to come and say hey your thing isn't working or you don't have it on properly what you want is a GPS transmitter that hands out groovy data that is advantageous Yeah that actually what you do want And by the way may not fall under definition of jamming

2:59:22 Well, I think it would. Well, I'm going to look into it. Wow! Look at this high-powered GPS jammer that's three or four bucks. How much? From the website Signal Jammer. Oh nice! PhoneSignalBlockerJammer.com They have the three, I have one of these. Uh...I had one and i don't have any more. I had one of these six uh...three antenna jammer for cell phones that was that would have it has all three heads gsm and it had cdma at the three antennas in you he's just put your pocket turn on a jammed all the phones within about twenty feet if u is very entertaining I like the idea

3:00:08 It should be something that you just put near your GPS receiver and it's just bogative data like, you know You're driving but you're right within the speed limit. You're always one mile under the speed limit Yeah, always good. And you go into the doctor or you go to a health food store Constantly driving around buying good things In fact John you've hit upon it and I think we should leave it with that This is our future Our future is creating transmitters That transmit Slave slave compliant data slave compliance And so when you have this bracelet on, you know It's going to like it's going to your unit barely stressed at work just a little bit. I

3:00:51 You know, when the boss asks you to go that extra mile. Bad data! Yeah. Look at how great you are. Bad data inc. He ate well again today. How is that possible? Insurance premium should drop to zero. Oh my gosh he ate kale AGAIN which reminds me I want to remind everybody out there do jonatdvorak.org send me your kale recipes use the subject line Kale and we're going to do a no agenda book on kale, the superfood of the future food and uh will have that will put everybody's anecdotes and will put your recipes in and your anecdotes so we'll put it together make a little ebook out of it it'll be ready before Christmas if you give me some recipes although I don't think they

3:01:35 too many people. And we also need some art, we need some art for this uh giblet yeah we can do all right so here is my recipe it is and this is the one that I have had and I will say it is the only recipe that I have actually eaten that included the superfood kale that I liked and it's from the food for fitness cafe here in Austin It's called goddess kale ingredients are Lemon juice, white wine vinegar, sea salt and black pepper. And this is basically tahini? Yeah it's basically tahini with kale yeah and the tahini stuff I kind of like that has an interesting... Tahini is tasty you get sick of it after a while just sesame seed paste goop

3:02:30 Goop so before I've done here. I just want to play this one clip And I what have you talked any of your friends back in Europe? It is very I think it's slightly underreported over here But what this kind of crazy storms that are whacking the EU Yeah, in fact the Netherlands Got got wax and they got some great videos yes You know trees were down there was There was a lot of spoof videos running around about it because finally people are catching on how dumb the news is. And so they take reports of, you know... It's typical whenever you have a storm like you show a flag

3:03:10 waving in the wind, you see people on the beach leaning into the wind. You show a tree that's down and an ambulance and you're good to go there is your package right there, there is your windy package yeah so it was interesting of course its all climate change we are all going die but what do ya got? I just have a clip that kind of summarizes this since I think alot of Americans particularly don't know anything about Hurricane-strength winds which battered southern Britain on Monday left a trail of destruction before heading eastwards onto mainland Europe. In all, more than a dozen people have been killed mainly due to falling trees or being swept out to sea others had lucky escapes

3:03:56 Dubbed St. Jude in the UK, the storm was for some reason given the name Christian as it slammed into Germany and France with winds of up to 160 kilometers per hour. Did she just say for some reason? Yeah like I heard when I heard that... What is that?! Isn't isn't that all written down? You know yeah isn't it isn't that all written down and predetermined what the storm names are? For some reasons. They make it up. Torrential rain In Denmark, as in other places the wild weather brought out onlookers despite warnings to stay indoors. One student said, I think it's ten times worse than we're used to. For those who felt they had to go outside they risked flying debris. Homes and businesses are now counting the cost of the damage although European insurers say it is too early to give accurate figures on the losses its likely to reach more than a billion euros

3:04:55 Fortunately no one was hurt when this scaffolding in Copenhagen collapsed. Scaffolding collapsed I tell you! That was a good one, that was a great video the scaffolding collapsed like the whole half of a building was up those scaffold it just got blown away people in Amsterdam thought it was funny that someone finally got killed on the canals of Amsterdam by nature instead of by Yugoslav gunmen Hey, someone got killed by something natural instead of the Yugos coming in and shooting the place up. They've got GPS blockers for cars but they only last four hours? These things are no good! We need... so it will be SCD Inc., Slave Compliance Data Incorporated and I think its as simple John as creating a counter bracelet

3:05:48 So you have so of course you're gonna be clamped on. You can have these bracelets it's going to be your citizen bracelet Yeah, they'll be locked on yeah welded on well Welded It's funny there's a movie There's an independent movie coming out and I think it's playing November 4th here in Austin it was part of it was funded I don't know I can't believe these guys had to go to Indiegogo or something to get funding for it And it's called ooh What the hell is it? It said the premise of it is China gets pissed that we don't pay them back. It's really funny, and because of that every single chip that was made in China which is pretty much everything freezes breaks and then they start handing out these bracelets like it's called I think it's called a citizens freedom band or something? It's pretty funny

3:06:47 I'll go see that or I won't see it, I'll wait for it or get a copy. Let me see if I can... It was actually... hmmm..I don't think I have it here The trailer was pretty well done but then they were trying to raise $50k on Indiegogo To finish the movie or something? That's really quite weird and not sure why why they were doing that. But the premise is kind of cool where China just like turns everything off, say okay look screw you guys! You're done and then you have to wear the Chinese bracelet and then... And of course ham guys in the trailer see guys are like putting a hundred potatoes in series to power the ham radio it's pretty funny

3:07:34 But anyway, so I think we can start the corporation. Citizens... The data of the compliant data corporation you get a band and it transmits compliance data into any other sensor that you're forced to wear by your insurance company or by the IRS which is bound to happen. It's happening! Yes yes it's happening um So all we need is a Kickstarter campaign Well, we can give it a run. No we won't! I think it's designable... No we won't! They'll push legislation as soon something like this showed up Yeah John in six years from now We'll be doing the same show talking about the same stuff Bitchin and moaning But at least we have some evergreens- we have a great collection of evergreens We will be living up there your place within the wine country I'm looking forward to it It's a nice area You know we got wine country in Texas now

3:08:32 You've always had one country. Yeah, but really successful like it's always been top wines really like hot yes over there toward I think it's toward Abilene or It's West Texas There's an area that has a microclimate that makes decent wine and this is actually some in the panhandle too There's an ex-IBMer that's had a place up there for 25 years yeah, I know rest And I believe that's name of that when this pheasant Ridge Yano Estacado I'm telling you I'm telling you The wine is, you know... it's quaffable. By the way you're always invited to come live in Austin. Mimi not so much. No? Alright everybody we'll be back on Sunday and we do expect you to support us for this effort as we continue our deconstruction of the mainstream media big data doo-doo! And I'm here in Austin Texas home of some great wines In The Morning I'm Adam Curry

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