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00:00 you could be pre-diabesity. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I say covert video, into so, root lock picking beyond hope C systems password 2600 magazine and competitor. I'm John C Dvorak. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! In the morning... Well you want to make sure the show is backed up by the NSA? Exactly. Well that should work just fine We need more listeners Hello National Security Agency

00:49 So I'm looking at the list of keywords that triggers the machines. And on this list is some of the stupidest crap i've ever seen, Steve Case's name if you say Steve Case Wait a minute wait what? What list are... Is this the list we've done like 20 times on the show or is it just a new list No this is a new list This is from the prism Oh okay well wait a minute didn't we have that list like 2 months ago Not this one. No, I don't remember Steve Case! Bubba the Love Sponge? No you're kidding me Texas Jihad? Wait back up. Blackbird? Backup. Plutonium? You're telling me Bubba the Love Spong is a key word for the NSA? Bull crap William Gates? Alright alright alright... I'm telling ya! Here's the one that gets me We can put this in the show notes if you want

01:47 This is from Business Insider. The validity of this may who knows what... Oh, Business Insider! Wait a minute that's that web publication that tries to sound like business week but they're not really? Yeah So here's the one that got my attention more than the crazy ones like you know some are just dumb Like Finks I don't believe this MI17 What is that?! That's what I want to know. MI-17 this is like an MI6 to the N power? I have no idea what this is but mi 17, I don't know we have to look into it well Well here we are John I was just gonna give you a little backgrounder where I am for those of you wondering yes You are in...

02:41 You're in Amsterdam and another B&B. Yes, another Airbnb absolutely So this time we are now four stories above ground level Which is always fun carrying the suitcases up because of course there's no elevators And you know these Amsterdam houses, the staircases pretty much go straight up. This is not like a... It's quite an angle of attack. Right they would be illegal in the United States Yeah oh yeah Not up to code let's put it that way uh... in and he'd wave has hit europe we've we've been here during the heatwave in fact that headline just the other day said they do to global warming its latest victim is the prostitution industry and of course now it has everyone's attention but then i'm not kidding this was a headline as because of the at the heats because of the heat global warming heat uh... than no one's going out there to visit the red light district this is this is too hot no one can be bothered

03:46 And so that's one way of selling it. I think that's crap No, I'm sure that they're doing poorly but obviously... Well yeah if you're so hot you can't get out of the house But and i'm sure you saw the uh was in was it USA Today? I think yesterday You know for the scientists now predicting 1400 cities will be underwater by 2100 and i'm disappointed because i moved to austin specifically for beachfront property but i don't want to have to wait ninety years i wanted to hurry up a little bit it's going to be great there they've already melted the ice cap in according to the rolling stone magazine greenland is melting and that's what's gonna do it so it should be fastened well hopefully hopefully uh... and one way too long so i'm uh... was involved on john we will go over first of all your offer two weeks

04:44 We had two special shows. I want to thank Ramsey Cain once again for putting together what i thought was a really good clip show People loved it! Yeah, people loved it and had an interesting depth to it. I listened to it... I'm sure you listen to as well John. Well actually you did the lot of the post-production so I know you listened to it. It was kind of fun listening to it on on the flight down to Nice from Amsterdam after we arrived And then the show after that was our interview show, which also a lot of people liked. And it's really interesting because a lot of people like these two shows but we didn't get a lot of donations! How does that work? We got virtually nothing in the $50 range which was weird because you know those are the people who get mentioned they figured they're not going to get mentioned so apparently mentioning them is important Wait a minute... You're telling me this value for value thing is really the value getting mentioned

05:40 I'm guessing there's a lot of that going on. Yes No mentions forget it It was kind of fun you know we went down to the south of France first to hang out with the elites and Wow this I gotta tell you it's been awhile since I've partied with the with the rich There was no one famous there, but with the rich and This is my friend Michelle's house now Michelle is a It's let's put he's putting in the In the live entertainment business is how I like to put it He has a number of clubs in the UK and I've known him for a number of years. He's a really good guy He's totally one of my gangster friends And you know, he's a good guy to have as a friend Yeah, and not only just because he has this great house in the south of France right there kind of San Rafael which is between Khan and and Saint-Tropez

06:32 And what he does every summer is he invites all kinds of interesting people to come and stay. He's got one of those huge swimming pools, the one that's like beyond Olympic size and it has salt water in it...and he has this thing heated to I think 85 degrees. You jump into the pool like, oh! What is this? Because you know, he likes to be in it all day long. Everyone's in the pool just drinking alcohol. It starts at 11 o'clock And you know, just talking and drinking. It's like okay let's sleep a little bit and then we'll get up and then we'll drive to Saint-Tropez and go have dinner. And it was really fascinating to listen to what the... If you look at the elites as really... I think there are two kinds of people who have a lot of money these days outside of actual royalty

07:24 people who are in infrastructure like building or you know, like live entertainment and people who are in banking. Would you agree that's pretty much the people have all the cash? Well there is a lot of tech guys that worth billions I think they don't qualify on either one of those Right! And we did see one...I think it was a tech guy not quite sure who it was There's this very famous bar called Nikki Beach N-i-K-k-i beach and thats in Saint Tropez Yeah, that's a very famous beach where lot of the Russians go. Oh dude! It's not just... There is only two kinds of people who are vacationing now in the south of France. Russians and Chiners and this is getting... This is a problem

08:13 Because I remember living in Amsterdam when the Japanese were basically, it was just all Japanese tourists. This was late 70's actually mid-70's i'd say to all the way through the mid 80's It was just all Japanese tourist coming through anyone who grew up in The Netherlands at that time will remember but the Japanese you know they have this kind of real nice politeness about them In fact overly polite The Chinese not at all They're rude they're seriously rude, they just walk in front of you. They don't give a crap they bump...you know they are taller than the Japanese is my general feeling and you know that just walking into you and it don't they don't care and their loud and annoying line that this is a cut-in line yeah yeah absolutely line cutters China or Line Cutter? And then if you call them out on it, they can speak English! Yeah but all sudden they don't know what's going on like I don't understand. This used to be horrible problem at Beijing airport

09:11 So anyway, so the friends that we have in the elite circles are more of the infrastructure and not on finance. And they're on the phone... you can tell that the world is in crisis mode because the number one thing for these guys is cash flow You know, they just need cash flow. They need stuff coming in through their hotels or whatever and if they don't have the cash flow you can tell that they're really really tight somehow on the cash flow and it's sad! They're on vacation and they're in the pool, you know? We'll be chatting like, bring there goes a blackberry... Hold on a second... And then is like 15 minutes of talking and yelling and whatever and like... It doesn't seem much as a vacation Well to me was entertaining

09:55 I mean, come on. When do you get an opportunity to spy on this? Well let's cut to the chase and tell us what you've learned. Okay! First of all they actually believe all the stuff that is in the newspapers I mean, like really! I was amazed. I was like what? Let me just say day one we arrive you know it's like kind of the afternoon hanging out and then the next morning we wake up and it is nice on the big terrace there overlooking the pool overlooking the ocean a big French breakfast with you know the maid making crepes and you've got baguettes and cheese and its just like eh! And I'm like oh I have arrived

10:37 And then after breakfast, like where is everybody? They're inside watching a door on television. Like what are you doing?! Oh, we're expecting the baby to come out any minute. They sat watching this door on the BBC wall... They were watching for the royal baby? Yes! And they were riveted into the television set and it could have a door? John I couldn't say a single bad word. Look, we don't care what you say about anything but you're not going to make jokes about the royal family and the baby okay?! It was really weird, the complete royalists. They're all a bunch of Brits? Is that the deal? Yeah well actually like the ambassador to Barbados which is of course is British protectorate he's there so you know this is all really important to them Oh it's SO IMPORTANT! Yes it was really important and then it was the name oh what's the name gonna be and we had bets on the name

11:35 And he was like, well no we can't be called James because that would be Diana's or Kate's brother. Oh I'm sorry not Kate, Catherine! It just went on and on and I could say anything I wanted about anything... Well actually no there were a couple things they couldn't say and this is what it came down to Because i met these people seven years ago the like the Barbados people I remember the guy at the time was reading Dreams of my Father or Audacity of Hope one of the Obama books And I said at the time, it's great but this guy is going to make no difference. It will be business as usual you watch and he was very skeptical and he is from Barbados so he is black which made all a little bit cooler and weirder at the same time So now I see him seven years later and like hello what did I tell you? You know what he says

12:23 all well look at what he was left with you know the legacy of the bush and i think it's a little sold your first fall are you kidding me this is your five minutes to win is he gonna do something for himself yeah but really wish ambles they really wasn't fair unlike okay and then john that gun argument oh my god on what you can get into the air here because they're all that we're all hands but it isn't as if you'd hear I can say aliens are coming down, the moon landing was bogus but you say hey you know that the whole thing with guns it kind of works. It's like their minds literally they turn to mush and they get angry! Like how many murders do we have from guns in the UK? None!! Well no... You still have 50 or something

13:14 No, it's not true! Okay. I'm on vacation man and i don't want to argue. But wow...I was really blown away by how... what is the word? I mean just slaves. Rich slaves It's funny because they really buy into everything You're reading the Daily Mail Hello, it's the Daily Mail Don't you know anything?! And this is their Bible I can't, I don't understand how they can make so much money. They got lucky! Yeah, they got lucky, yeah, I don't know what's going on It's like...I found this clip as i was prepping for todays show

13:59 Star Jones, who is a... I think she's still a celebrity here in America. And she was on the... Oh! In fact at one point called him out and said hey man don't go all Piers Morgan on me You know, we're going to deport that guy eventually. So you really got to stop it with your crazy gun talk and I come back for some prep for the show and get this... If you are not going to reduce the volume of guns make ammunition expensive so that every time you point a gun at somebody and pull that trigger think is that life worth $5,000 for a bullet? Is this woman for real does she really think thats ever gonna happen that a bullet is gonna cost 5 thousand dollars

14:40 And this was a Chris Rock joke from 15 years ago and this is still being used now on so-called news discussion programs? This is insane, Star Jones. Make the ammunition more expensive I don't think that's in the Constitution. I don't think that's in the Constitution! Well in Britain we saw dramatic reduction in all fire offenses when we made it mandatory five year jail sentence if you were caught with a handgun It works! IT WORKS!!! and then you bring up the knife thing, and they're like yeah but knives are illegal. People are getting maimed with knives every single day it's thousands! You can't talk any sense into them you can't do it anyway so on that part of our trip south of France I'd be only thing all I will point out is that all the Russians who really have money are now off to Sardinia

15:38 San Tropez is out. That's for your little boats if you want to be hang out with the big boys you go to Sardinia well this is something new I didn't know this yeah no I didn't know either but that is so what have we learned rich people in Sardinia and hang out with the Ruskies lots of free champagne oh yes so the Nikki Beach and I think it was an American guy so this beach isn't a beach as a club It's and they got music, and I got a swimming pool. And you sit around the swimming pool and typically Really fat Russian guys will buy these magnums of either champagne or rosé then they have the waiters They'll slice off the top putting out the cork with a sword and then these Russians will you know we're like you know either

16:23 uh... poured on their women or sprayed it's insane and then i have this new thing now, and this is what the douchebag american did. I have no idea he looked like a typical silicon valley a-hole and he ordered three dozen bottles of champagne because that's that's the order that it is So these 36 bottles show up and all your friends sit at one end of the pool, and then everyone gets a bottle. And you open it up and spray each other with it! Yay!! I'm just sitting there watching this spectacle...and each bottle has got to be a couple hundred bucks. You're such A-holes!!! Then you jump in the pool....

17:09 I mean, i'm sure you can see this on... if you YouTube it, you can see videos of this happening. It's like what is the point to prove that you have so much money that you could just spray around and don't care? And this was not a Russian... This wasn't equivalent lighting a cigar with $100 bill! Yeah except its more, it's like seven thousand dollar bill And you can just see all these, and of course the chicks are all hookers one way or the other. Oh hey I'm in the party now too! We saw so many women just sneaking into being at someone's table and before they know it they're off to the boat It really is sad...it's just sad. And I remember I had yacht kind-of money

17:56 And I remember how easy it was to, oh let's go do this and like... It makes me physically ill now. Poverty was very good for me What are you doing? Oh. What were you doing? I was tearing... Don't tear paper, please. It wasn't a tearing paper it was tearing off uh never mind go on all right so then we went uh then we drove to Florence and oh i gotta tell you we were driving a we rented a Volkswagen EOS which is a convertible have you ever seen this vehicle yeah that's around uh it's a turbo diesel two liter

18:35 and I did the calculation, i was getting 43 miles to the gallon on this thing. Yeah those diesels they have in Europe are amazing and not only that...I hate to use the word amazing, I did it though. It's okay, it's okay. Is that they have a lot of pep. You wouldn't know the difference between a gas engine and diesel engine anymore I didn't even know it was a diesel engine until, because also i didn't have to get any fuel until our way back so I rented at Nice we drove from Nice to San Rafael which is about two hours hour-and-a-half We drove around there just little bit then we drove from San Rafael all the way down south of Florence where Willow lives

19:18 and we were halfway back before i had to get any fuel like oh it's a diesel yes on the cap is like diesel only I'm like oh okay it's a diesel what? I had no idea. And this thing, not only... It was very heavy Very few Americans realize that these diesels are there's no difference you wouldn't tell the difference until he had to fill up the fuel and it's a much more efficient engine too bad in the United States because of some other more recent EPA requirements that diesel fuel now cost more than premium. Oh yeah well so that's obviously less, at least in France and Italy your diesel is less than your premium gasoline

20:02 The only thing that I didn't like about the cars is one of those ecosystems so if you stop and then the engine cuts out. I hate that. Oh, there was no switch that i could find to turn it off? There probably was one but you couldn't find it. I had one of those Volkswagen's in Las Vegas during some show I went too and the damn thing almost got me killed Oh yeah. Because you stop to make a left turn and you're waiting and the damn engine turns off, and if you punch it nothing happens! Yeah no it started pretty quickly but still I was like nah this is not great so I learned how to massage the brake if you massage the brake pedal if you push it down a little bit and just depress it and keep that going for a little while then it won't cut off. But it's not really a great way of doing business

20:56 So we drove down to south of Florence, to Inchisa which is where Willow lives in the Italian hills there with her husband who's the comedian actor producer etc. and their two children We stayed at another Airbnb there which Mickey I'm pretty sure will be tweeting about outstanding I think it was 70 euros a night. It was this castle winery and you get like a whole suite, just a huge space with separate bathrooms and bedrooms and sitting room... We should put that in our travel guide! Oh no we've got a lot of stuff for the travel guide so that's going to be in there for sure. And then brand new pool, a huge infinity pool just beautiful the guy was really nice

21:47 It was enchanting, just totally enchanting. So we hung out there for a couple days and of course we were very near to where Willow lives so did the whole typical Italian family get-together and then went into Florence for a couple days and stayed at another Airbnb which will not be putting in our travel guide this was no such outstanding product It did however have an air conditioning which was great because we don't have one here and we were right next to the Duomo so the big dome. And uh... It's been a while since I've been in Italy at all and there are some observations that I think are very important. It actually helped me quite a bit understand some things that we even talk about on the show, first of all internet in Italy... yeah young people have internet mainly they've got 3G there is no 4g to speak of certainly not outside Rome or even Milan it's kind of 3G

22:49 In general, people don't trust the internet. The old people definitely don't trust the internet and everyone likes cash and you can pay with your credit card almost anywhere in Florence but I was talking to a lot of people and they said well really so why is everything so backwards with the Internet here? You have to understand that the Italians only two years ago, do they really have to use bank accounts? It's all been people keeping cash in boxes and under their mattresses. With the whole EU financial crisis that's when Italy said okay now everyone has to have a bank you can't just go to the post office and get your welfare check it'll be deposited in your bank

23:36 People now have to have that and by the way, you can't just be putting tons of cash in there that isn't... That you don't report on your taxes because they've got money meters I think is what they call them. They're counting to make sure whatever you put in is also paying appropriate tax over but the internet part from people I spoke to was is directly attributable to Berlusconi who was smart. Imagine you're Rupert Murdoch and you control the country not just the media which is almost the same thing, what your not going to do is your not going let some stupid internet take away your business

24:21 So Berlusconi just said, hey we're just going to retard this whole country. We're not going let them really get any access to any super internet because he's got all the TV stations and that's why Italy is at least 10 years behind yeah! And I think they are more like 20 years behind but... At the same time... It would be the same thing if Rupert Murdoch was president of United States during the Clinton administration so he was Clinton Exactly You know when information super highway it was a big deal Exactly so that makes a lot of sense. Of course what sucks is getting anything done on the internet and people forget, you know we enjoy I've got like 20 megabits 30 megabits down in Austin 5 megabits up and that's just a consumer grade you know that's more than I need

25:12 But then you want to get something done and you forget that it is one-to-one. The economy, literally everything is just slower and you get less done because of the speed of the internet And you don't really appreciate it until you're in that situation In fact we were kind of dreaming... I was dreaming and I was very stupid because I said it out loud and Mickey jumped on it You know, we could do a whole year. We could you know once our lease is up in Austin and we could just put everything in storage and go live...you know a month here or a month there. A month in Paris, a month in Tokyo." And Mickey's like yeah this is great let's do it! And then meanwhile I'm going like oh my god what have I just done? Because you know it takes me you know like a full day to prep the show It'll take three days if I run into situation like Italy. You can't-We can't live there. You can get anything done

26:08 You really can't. And besides they're 21% VAT. Well you can if you're running a small cafe in the corner Yeah, yeah if your serving cappuccinos but you can be apart of the world system It really can't be and it's just... it's a very strange country I didn't realize that Italy has only been a full blown united country for like 150 years or so Yeah, it was all these little... you could call them city-states. And they still have regional dialects to the point where some people can't understand other people. And they have real issues in northern part of Italy is like why don't we just draw a line here kind of like North Korea South Korea and just ignore them and cut them off everything down below? I can understand why! They're bringing him down but they have 21% VAT

27:06 They have free medical care. Willow told me about how that works, the free medical care She called for... see her daughter had something I think wrong with their foot she called in November and she said look i'd like the doctor to look at my daughter's foot okay no problem yeah we have an opening on the 21st of October You're talking about almost a year? Yes. Well this probably solves a lot of the problems where people are just, the doctors are just being pestered constantly. Yeah! Don't worry it'll heal itself. It's fantastic. Limping around for a year... Oh that's a shame that is locked in place now you'll be limping around for the rest your life. We're so sorry oh well So that's your- don't they have private doctors you can go to them

27:56 bypasses yeah but then no one can afford that willows and will has a like a really high-paying job I'm sorry what would be a high paying job anywhere else in Europe She makes really, really shit money compared to what you would make in the Netherlands or London. But the prices are the same everything's expensive this is... You can see how the European Union has screwed a lot of these southern countries and I'll just say Italy in this case certainly the southern part of Italy it like a southern country. It's poor people are piss poor and we're in Florence which okay Florence is pissing me off

28:36 all of their statues that they have outside as you're walking around, they are all replicas. The real statues are all in the museum. So yeah... In Venice they have a lot of these replicas like those horses Yeah well I mean and the whole city is filled with statues but then it turns out that these are all replicas And of course you've got a million Chinese running around and Russians but obviously the Chinese and a lot of Dutch too i'll say And they're all running around, they're standing in front of the replica statues taking their picture. I'm like this is insane! This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen it's like Disneyland except all the staff is grumpy that's what Florence is just... It's fake! The whole thing is fake! Now of course we did go to the Academia Museum and we went to the Uffriti whatever it's called where are the Botticelli's are

29:32 and it was very interesting, and this is what I really learned on this trip. So of course Florence you know particularly this church, this cathedral took 140 years to build and it was built for the... What's the name of the family? Medici? Yeah, the Medicis. Well, the Medicis as they call them there. The Medicis So you go to the museum and see all of all the paintings of the family It's all been commissioned and everyone has a little halo over their head not because they were from heaven But these are like the celebrities of their day, you know Everyone worked for this family in that at one point that Palazzi's I think there were bankers tried to kill a couple of them And they killed one guy. They didn't kill the other guy and what you see in These paintings is

30:24 It's to me it's very and for those of you who believe in God Great, whatever. I'm the way I'm seeing it is these families they portrayed themselves as holy You know They were Popes and Cardinals and everything came from God And they commissioned all the artwork and all the you know Basically the National Inquirers of the day which were these paintings of them with little halos looking old? you know godlike and They killed everyone who didn't agree with it And they cut people's heads off and they, you know slice people in half and there was just a completely murderous bunch. And you can see this is what's changed? Well this is... Okay so what changed I think

31:05 Because of course also all the royal families and everything came out of this era. We're talking like 12, 1300. This is way before really the... Well that's not entirely true but you see how all these families, the Dutch Royal Family, the other ones around Europe came from Prussia, came from... Of course we have The Church of England and The British Royal Family What changed I think is gunpowder And gunpowder came along and really, and the technology to shoot. And I think that these families went, oh crap man we can't just go shit... slicing everybody's head off anymore because you know they can build a bomb and blow us up so we gotta trick them some other way

31:48 And that's when this whole kind of, you know, oh we're here for the people and we're pacifying you. Because they had no intention... if I look at these paintings they had no intention to being nice to people shut up slave! Make my... build my church for 140 years and i think that gunpowder really changed change the rules of business and thats when they have to temper back a little bit and here we are today with the so-called wealthy, of course they're nothing compared to the British royal family or any of the other true royal families who really have the power and money. And they've been tricked into believing that it's all ceremony is just good for the country then it's good for you know... It's a it's good for the culture! They've been tricked into believing this Who's they? The people! Oh. The citizens

32:46 So let me get this straight. We started the show at 9 o'clock and now it's 45 minutes of anecdotes has brought us to an anti-monarchy spree? Yes! And there you have it... That is what you learned?! This is very important information! I haven't changed at all, this is bullcrap! Now I'm very disappointed in this travel. What do you mean!? This is very important we've learned that Chinese, we've learned that rich people believe in the same bull crap that poor people believe in that the slaves... we've learned a lot. That by the way is an eye opener. We've learned quite a bit! You just said yourself that they're not really rich, they are just poor people with a lot of money There you go Well I think we have learned something

33:29 and then there's a heat wave. And there is a heat wave going on, yeah. Let me tell you something July so we have this this is such a classic Bay Area summer it started like the last day I think maybe July 1st or July 2nd started fog rolled in and became overcast It has...the sun has not broken out since July second It is cold, it's windy. It's foggy and I'm thinking every day I get up it's like right now there's no sun. No sun, there just a bright spot in the clouds and overcasts and its cold and miserable and I am thinking global warming wow really works this isn't the way has been in the Bay Area This is the classic bay area We haven't had a classic situation like this for long time This isn't gonna break...it's already August 1st we still haven't seen the Sun

34:23 I do have a couple of tips for some travel tips. I learned something new now this may not help no in fact this will help only a small portion of our audience Miss Mickey and I both were at one point, couple years ago gold card members of KLM and as we learned going down to Nice, you know Mickey's got her attitude and just walk into the premium check-in place. They say well no I'm sorry you're not golden amir, your ivory. What is ivory? Oh that's the lowest you can get okay so were ivory which means you know you can't take... Screw you from all of the money you spent! Exactly now here's what we learned

35:14 I'll tell you how i figured this out and what it means. We're on our way but we are going to fly back from Florence up to Nice, and I know our suitcases are a little bit too heavy because now its not even 50 pounds, 22 kilos... A suitcase weighs 5 kilos by itself! You can't carry anything! And the minute you go over its 70 euros extra It's a total ripoff and you know why they're doing it. So we were really early, so let me just check in at one of these kiosks which I typically don't do...I don't know, I just like going to the person having them check me in. So I go to the kiosk and say identify yourself with a credit card. So I stick in a credit card says okay Adam Curry what flight are you on? I'm like what?!

36:06 I mean, you know i'm flying today can't you even okay klin? You know one two one seven whatever it is. Oh all right um what's your what destination city It's asking me all this stuff that it should know And yeah so finally it finds my my booking record and and then it says we do have a frequent flyer number and I take out the gold card which is of course no longer valid. It even has, the date on it is not longer even valid but I don't have a new petroleum or ivory card whatever the crap it is so I stick in an immediately goes ding-ding-ding-ding ah you are Sky Priority! And I'm like what? I check Mickey in with her card she's got her actual physical card

36:54 It says your sky priority. So the pride though she had an ivory card No, no We are ivory level but we never we never threw out the gold cards. We kept the card carry me old Dead hard on you. Well it's not dead I think what's happened is these kiosks for some reason if you check in a certain order or maybe not at all? I don't think they're linked to the loyalty program And then it prints on the ticket, you know, whoa big priority. So we go right into the priority lane and we get all oh no your priority can go up to 30 kilos and please enjoy the lounge Wow okay so we can't wait to try this flying out on KLM We're gonna use the system see if we can

37:38 if it's not connected. I think with you know the... It may not be connected, this would not surprise me in the least because they keep changing the system right? Exactly! They upgrade and then we gotta do that ohhh.. You know the data is the same can't we just to keep a standalone yeah you can do that. It's also all the acquisitions cause you know Air France bought KLM. This may be by the way this maybe why you had to put all that extra data in Yeah of course it didn't have it So I'm like, okay these kiosks are lame. This is fantastic so we're going to try it again when we leave on Tuesday. We're gonna try the exact same sequence first identify with a credit card and then because... And so i guess important is that you don't say.. You don't make the booking with your frequent flyer number because you have to use the physical card at the kiosk in order for it to work and I know that your frequent flyer number changed? No! It's the same number

38:33 But it's the card itself you think? I think it is the card itself, yeah. So there may be a code on the card... Something like that, yeah. That is just going up. It's a gold card! So anyway we enjoyed that We enjoyed our free upgrade. Now there ya go now ladies and gentlemen That's the value of The No Agenda Show finally! Yeah well You have to have a gold card from somewhere To start with which is kind of a bummer Well, you know I keep all my cards. Yeah and when i was flying...I can go digging around dig up my old United card the gold card see if it works in one of the kiosks. I think I still have my Virgin Atlantic when I was you know Richard Branson was sending me bathrobes for Christmas at a certain point so I'm thinking maybe I can still use that card if I can find it

39:22 It's possible that all these systems are corrupted like that. But I think they even... It makes sense because there is too much, think of it those things are standalone and sitting out there. They probably are connected to some system but they can't deal with a big database You know what is going happen now? We're gonna get some of our sysadmins calling us or emailing us saying oh yeah... We need some information Oh yeah! No they're gonna say you nailed it none of this stuff is connected And of course, totally enjoyed the no agenda free Wi-Fi. Our producer of Wi-Fi at Schiphol Airport. You land and you walk into the terminal... Boom! Things just working. Love that

40:06 Let's thank some producers for sending you on this trip. Well first let me say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak. In the morning to you finally Adam Curry and also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there yes and in the morning to everyone in the chat room all of our human resources who are there lined up ready to go depleting their 9.2 million dollar value thank you to our artists Noah ArtGenerator.com on the previous two episodes 533 and 534 we thank Thorin and Patrick Bausch for their contributions to the best podcast in the universe

40:46 and uh... we want to thank you know a few people who died eastbound in a name the executive associate executive producers but these are for three different separate shows and we will let put the appropriate one on this show but I want to thank everybody because we had an associate executive both on the previous shows and Barry Hanna being an example. So let's start with Barry Hanna in Akatox, Alberta And of course I just noticed that he has a note and I don't have a note from him but if i type in Hannah to the thing, I can find him. And he's not in here so Barry if you have something to say let us know

41:38 uh... besides that he obviously likes to show and supports us date this five hundred bucks so he was an exact executive producer john johnson junior three thirty three thirty three in new york uh... john adamcourse you guys are on vacation tomorrow for my thirty third birthday but still compelled to donate for any occasion keep with the great work and i get some birthday carmen italian shut up slave in our honor of the italian greyhound yes of course you can You've got karma. Shut up slave! Stay quiet, you scoundrel! Yes two Italian Greyhounds actually Steven Sevchuk 33330 in West Orange New Jersey No need to read my comment on the show I'll follow up with an email to you guys which would be glad to read The Inca... Icon Negro registered nurse $300 in United States and I do have a note

42:34 uh... right here do you think it's icon needle or i can a grow what he said but what do you think that the i can they grow up by in in incandescent in indian agro indiana please accept this humble dot tuition offering for the fine continuing education program you've been providing for low these past five years less than d douche begging audience members whose protests are offered rationale For the non-payment, ever get it twisted. You are getting smarter by the show mofos ergo Get with the effing program and ante up you bitch asses Okay let me just write that down

43:23 Thusly spoken, I laud your chiding of Professor Curry for his attempted legitimization of the N-word during show 531. The word will forever be a cancer on the American lexicon and rationalizing its use by Caucasian Americans is akin to legitimate legitimating light cigarettes as less carcinogenic on account of their different levels of tar. And menthol is cool! He's requesting the bullshit sound effect right there. Yeah, okay no problem. Bullshit? Sure On an unrelated note a word to the esteemed No Agenda artists would someone please accept the gauntlet AC laid down and create some album art

44:10 worthy of a cover selection predicated on the 69th minute of the show 531 while including an image of Jen Pisaki. If selected, it would be worth $535 to this depraved slave Not sure what... Well, okay. It didn't happen clearly. Yeah no lastly my any words about the slave meet up in Texas by all means keep us in to know on that professor? Yeah, I would deal with that. What happened to the No Agenda Texas meetup? Is that off the radar? It's still on as far as i can tell. I would be thrilled to represent the Wilkes-Barre Pennsylvania as Sir Incognigro after receiving a knighthood for my pending $535 donation not that I won't achieve knighthood anyway! Okay hold on a second so The Incognegro I'm guessing is one of our black producers who

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45:51 Yes, I'm guessing the same thing that you're guessing. He's a black Yeah wait you mean here's our token black listener is that what your say? No we do I know it We had the ambassador in last minute thinking the ambassador to Barbados who will now never invite me to Barbados after this show What's another one of them he listens to the show oh Well of course he's gonna listen to the show. He said, well I wanna make sure... Oh you're listening to this show? Yeah! You're listening to a show because oh i'm going to be on it. He is in for somewhat of a disappointment. I am never gonna invited back. Philippine Flasman Finke in Hulshorst $250 Okay, Philippine Flasman Finke in Hulshorst. Flasmann Finka So these are pronounced as f's? Ummm kind of between

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49:28 what's that sir Oscar Nadal a.k.a the romantic hispanic hmm what is this el guapo I don't know but i think was in that movie The Three Amigos so it was an El Guapo? The three amigos, that was the biggest bomb ever wasn't no one saw that but it was one of one of the biggest bombs Sir Barron Sir Dr Sharkey Jackson Tennessee $200 33 cents can I get some human resource karma for my brother and sister-in-law who are actually gestating their first human resource. Okay? Okay, yeah absolutely I guess this is swazzle enough karma you've got or karma actually non swells enough if they just if they're yeah baby karma if they're gestating are you okay do you want to drink a water do you want to go do something I breathe that's what I just drank water and got down the wrong pipe okay Alphonse anonymous Ellen

50:24 L Anonymous 200 and it rolls long as note I sent a previous email regarding this. I'm not sure if you saw it So I'm donating two hundred bucks to make sure you understand You were absolutely correct about the CIA control of inspire magazine This link disappeared from a major news site almost as soon as it was posted. Washington Post has got to cite the link. Killer quote, although techniques are carefully guarded officials say US intelligence operatives have monitored the magazine during its production process through the overseas computer networks each time an issue is about to hit the internet officials from the NSA, CIA and Pentagon State Department, Justice Department debate whether to sabotage it

51:04 In cases where threats appear imminent, steps might be taken to disrupt publication. In some cases cyber spies sabotage files so they can come up blank when a user clicks on them according to the former official in one case the official said that sabotage was not corrected for months So in other words CIA has Pre-publication control of Inspire before it hits the internet and 2. They intentionally allow the issues with pressure cooker bomb instructions to appear before the Boston attack, how's that for Homeland Security? This is the same flawed intelligence technique that was exposed in the James Risen case where which made news recently when federal appeals court ruled last month that Reisen, as a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist had to testify in the criminal prosecution of one of his sources who was the subject of chapter nine of Reisen's 2006 book State Of War. The chapter revealed how US intelligence had mistakenly given the Iranians plans to build a nuclear weapon

51:54 That's funny. I think we, that Washington Post article or the link that he mentions that has disappeared...I think we discussed it on the show at the time? I think we might have yeah It was probably in The Show Notes somewhere and we probably have a copy of it actually Robert Montoya, that would be the thing to take a copy of since they took it down. Well we have copies of everything in the show notes. It'd be the ass of the government! Yeah we do save as people, save as. Robert Montoya in Pleasant Hill California right down the street needs some job karma. Okay let me hit you with that

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53:12 uh... three five three four five three five three shows and with the be sorted out eventually and we want to remind people that we do have a show five three six coming up on sunday which i assume you'll be doing from europe yes uh... there will be the last show from europe in the media travel back on tuesday and then we have wednesday to turn around and thursday anyway basically if she take into account the amount of effort that and you did the work in this case I mean, yeah we both did the interviews and people liked the interviews themselves but you put it all together. And Ramsey Cain he put together two pieces of the clip show so... We did actually continue to produce even though there was a little bit of a chill just a bit but

53:59 It will work out. Really? It didn't make that much difference! It's not like, oh I'm so rested how you feeling John? Gee that vacation was great Yeah, but also I didn't make and i didn't get to go to Detroit because it was too damn expensive. I couldn't afford it. I read today that Chiners are buying up houses left and right in Detroit yeah they should because you can get them for nothing like a dollar a house I'm thinking we should buy us a couple of houses We can buy at least a couple Yeah, they're only ten and twenty dollars. I think there's one that was up for sale for three years for a dollar But don't you have to pay taxes on the property? You have to pay back taxes So it's not really a great deal is what you're saying well

54:46 It's a very depressed price though, and the taxes are going down. I don't know... But if the Chinas- I'd have to go there but I can't because you know what? I'm not gonna spend $1500 to take a John to Detroit that's a jip! Is it that is it... why does it cost 1500 bucks?! That's what it costs because apparently right now they're do Detroit hotels are filled to the gills people are going to Detroit I guess yeah or something whatever I don't know I could drive somebody can find me a deal I'll still go But anyway, so you think Ford or GM would send me there for you know this come on here? No John plane. No, I ride a jet out no John because You know that they give you all these cars and you never blog about it. You don't do anything You'd know you just drive the car around Well, I've known a lot about he promising like oh yeah, I'm gonna write this whole book on electric cars is

55:37 I'll start blogging about him now. You should guilting me no, but not just blog you get it Oh, it's a great car and you got to play the game buddy No, I know how to buy know how that those things are written You couch the criticism actually I can write them anywhere one But yeah, I know how they're doing the model is your couch the criticism in funny kind of terms Yeah It could be better you know, kind of thing. All right thank you all very much! I wish they'd do this...I want to thank everybody for helping us on this producership stuff and make sure go to Dvorak dot org slash N A for the Sunday show which will be again a world-class connected World Class World Connected Show and uh...and i'm sitting here in a non air conditioned it's the top floor underneath the roof

56:31 This is always what you were bitching about when you're in the vehicles. Yeah, it's the same thing because in a Hot Pockets mobile you can't have the air conditioner on because its too noisy Have you had a tweet up or meetup while your floating around? No I was having a vacation and by the way It doesn't matter where you walk there's always someone who throws you an In The Morning Middle of Florence Italy That is good. I have to say that's pretty cool. He's really just some random person Yeah, well the producer and a producer and uh it happens everywhere. I go everywhere I go So yeah, we are a world show here. We are a world show. That's right You know but of course in Italy they're still listening to episode 190 because it takes so long to download

57:29 there's still downloading the rest all right please help us out for our Sunday show we are continuing to produce and to dissect everything as well as we can and well you're gonna see we got a lot of stuff coming up for you today slash and a do i mention uh... in the show notes you'll see two links one is uh... under the p r section that our very own g x to has created a youtube music channel as kind of cool because every single one of his videos has backlinks to know agenda showed up on someone dimension that of course you can take a look at this

58:05 That is videos and which are all great remixes a lot of them of the show great mixes I should say A lot of them on the show, and then also We have I want to mention this may do part of the as a part of the full donation segment as well Eric the shill has put together a ring Submission site so if you have not received your ring Your no agenda night ring go to know agenda nation comm slash rings. Have you seen this John? Yeah, yeah the funny thing is I was... unbeknownst to Eric. I tried this and it didn't work? No i tried this for Mimi Oh. And she... She... That's no good! Wait a minute Is that the actual voice she used on you? Yes exactly. That's no gooood! And of course you can always go out an propagate our formula Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth New Order

59:10 I can only imagine that. I could do that voice of her, you know it's one of the things uh... i can make fun and say things like like that which is true by she did say its no good. The voice may be a little different but im working on it yeah but she doesn't listen to this show anymore really? She just gave up on the show Well, unless you burn a CD for her and she can listen to it in the car. Why doesn't she listen to the show? She doesn't care about the show? She probably's I've heard all this before. Does she like food? Does she like eating? Oh, that's very close to the voice keep it up you're doing well really good Could you put could you be taking easy the whole back office is gonna check out well The show will fall apart

1:00:09 We quit! We quit. You stink! Hey, let me start you off here. The back office of Eric. Well he is the back office. I got a lot of other things i want to talk about but I've been hogging the mic so I'm gonna sit back and pop an Adderall and listen what you have to say Well I've got a couple of funny clips. Obama went to Tennessee to speak to the employees of Amazon... Wait a minute, was this the slave speech about the new bargain for America? No, he's been giving this speech day after day in one place or another so it's probably the same speech

1:00:58 But he's at Amazon talking about the future and how, you know this is a... Amazon is an example of other working class can get back to work. It's a robot factory! It's a slave station! Slave stations everything is done by robots yeah it's like they have a few employees they're all back including some blonde bimbo that was back there smiling Was she hot? You know they had a bunch of people behind him So he does, he goes off prompter for just a second and he starts to stammer. Now I've heard him stammer... Sorry? Really! I said like really stammer stammer? Never heard of such a thing so he starts the stammer and this is the worst i think i've ever heard him do it And so I'm gonna ring the bell as he repeats himself every time he says the same word over and over again and we'll try to keep count ready yep hit

1:01:55 I want to tell everybody here the truth. And you know, look... I know that the politics for Obama aren't always great in Tennessee, I understand that. But I want everybody just hear the honest truth. You know, I've run my last campaign so I don't need to spin it around. And here's the truth. Wow, wow It was the worst ever but it's also it's one performative after another Here's the truth I want everyone to know the truth. Uh-uh. I just want to say this in one thing I mean nothing is the truth, but he's all performatives every single thing that comes out of his mouth

1:02:48 Yeah, it's pretty bad. I got an email... so wait a minute while you're on this topic So first they got a tweet at Barack Obama Here's my latest plan to help the middle class retire with dignity Please retweet! I'm not kidding and then I get an email Hello everybody The basic bargain of this country right there? I'm like what?! So can I read this to you for a second? Did you get this email from the president? Well, I've been sending you some of the ones i've been getting from Hello Hillary. No, I want to talk about the Hello Hilary but first let me just read because this is America... No, I didn't because I have disconnected from that campaign Alright well this was from The White House so I still like hearing from The White House Whitehouse dot government can I stop you right now? I'm going to say something Yes! I'm going to say something and make myself perfectly clear So they're collecting email addresses

1:03:49 on the public dime and they're gonna move them over that Obama operation which is everyone knows about, which is a direct marketing thing where they have this huge collection of donors and email addresses an everything else. I'm going to put in... or anyone can do this.. I'm gonna put it in Freedom Of Information Act request to get these emails. These are being collected on the... It's a great list that they would love to know agenda show. Yeah, we should be able to can you do that? Can you do a foyer for the entire life don't see why not? The one just metadata hey just met it can we import that into MailChimp oh yeah Imagine a MailChimp might blow up all right so hello everybody good load here it is

1:04:36 The basic bargain of this country says that if you work hard, you can get ahead. You can build a secure life for your family and know that your kids will do even better someday." Okay... That is not- This is not uhhhhhhh you know like the old navy. This is America, we're not like the bargain place, like the bottom bargain, this is the bin of the universe. The American dream is what were about! You come into America with nothing but the clothes on your back and you can be on top of the world why yes you could become president that

1:05:15 That is the dream. We've gone from the dream to, hello everybody! The basic bargain. We're not a bargain I hate this it makes me mad and he goes on but for more than a decade that bargain has frayed oh now we're a bargain that's busted can't believe you're buying second-hand goods like a yard sale now and a devastating recession made it worse Worst lucky barnax here and then it just it just goes on and on and I'm listening to this And he's done this bargain thing before but this has got a stop someone has to say no. I'm sorry We are not a bargain country This is the country of dreams were built on dreams I've gotta tell you, I'm expecting him at any moment to say we need to nationalize Reardon steel

1:06:13 I can tell you, this is literally what's going to happen. It's just beyond me. Beyond me and then he did his little thing as a little show there, his YouTube show. Hi everybody! On Wednesday i spoke about what we need to do as a country to build a better bargain for the middle class A better bargain? So not only... You got a crappy bargain right now So apparently somebody has made bargain, the word bargain some sort of a code word. Or key word to be pounded on or pounded on. Right okay here's what I think is happening. I think you start with the word bargain and then you can bring in the grand bargain isn't that what he's always looking for? The grand bargain which would be the grand bargain... Yeah I think JCPenneys is doing the same thing

1:07:08 to make sure everyone who works hard has a chance to get ahead in the 21st century economy. For that is the American dream! Go work at Amazon! You see, over the past four and half years America's fought its way back from the worst recession of our lifetimes Which was George Bush's fault We saved the auto industry, took on a broken healthcare system invested in new American technologies to reverse our addiction to foreign oil and changed the tax code too skewed in favor of the wealthiest at the expense of working families. Does he believe that any of this is true? You know I was listening to a lot of his stuff while you were gone and I decided

1:07:48 decided that he's such a lightweight when it comes to any sort of economic theory or thought. He has never worked for a living, he has never had a job, he is never gone out into the workplaces...He is like this character that would be like a nightmarish guy to put into this office! There is no understanding of any of this stuff and when he talks about its always in vague generalities like a little kid would come up with Well then he comes up with his new little meme thing which I think is coming up in 20 seconds here As a result, our businesses have created 7.2 million new jobs over the past 40 months. Yeah it doesn't mention how many were lost! We produce more renewable energy than ever and more natural gas than anyone

1:08:31 Health care costs are growing at the slowest rate in 50 years. I love this statistic It's getting more expensive, but it's getting more expensive slower than it used to And is already too expensive Our deficits are falling at the fastest rate in 60 years Thanks to the grit and resilience of the American people we women thanks to the grit What does that mean, the grit and resilience of the American people? We're tough! Does it mean we have our faces in the mud? Well... maybe. You've cleared away the rubble of crisis- Oh, the rubble of crisis there you go It's clear, the rubble of crisis is gone. ...begun to lay a new foundation for stronger more durable economic growth Okay here it comes But as any middle class family will tell ya were not yet where we need to be Uh huh Trends that have been eroding middle class security for decades

1:09:23 technology that makes some jobs obsolete, global competition that makes others movable growing inequality and the policies that perpetuate it. All those things still exist and in some ways the recession made them worse. Reversing these trends must be Washington's highest priority It sure is mine. Oh! Wait a minute I thought his highest priority was protecting the American people Well, it keeps changing from you know they're experimenting but even that's a work in progress. Even the 500 people that listen to that little thing you included yeah You know they they're just they're pretty liberal about what they gonna do But over the past couple of years here we goicular Washington has taken its eye off the ball and I've been reading Oh, I've been reading that book by the way the this this town

1:10:12 and the use of this word Washington is really quite disgusting for the President of United States to be talking this way, and blaming it on Washington in this town. He literally says this town instead of your representatives your government what it really should be an endless parade of distractions and political posturing, and phony scandals. Okay so the phony scandals thing that got my goat. That's a huge meme! That got me...that really got my goat. Well he said by the way at all these speeches and he said it at the Amazon facility uses phony scandals, phony scandals. It was a major meme So Jay Carney spokeshole Carney is called on this

1:10:58 By Chuck Scarborough on Morning Joe and typically this is a lame-ass show You know you got Mika Brzezinski, and it's just dumb the whole show was dumb. They got dumb people on it saying dumb things but once in awhile something happens and and Carney came out with the phony The phony baloney thing again in this case about the IRS And Joe Scarborough wipes his ass all over the place. Carney gets so flustered, first of all he's smirking and standing in front of the White House on a lawn where is typically set up for news anchors

1:11:38 and uh... scarborough is back at base or wherever he is and scarbrough sees him into the audience i see yours you're laughing your smirking or whatever you know but this is not funny and you can't be a uses not what you said it was is not just a couple of people in the cincinnati office there's something actually going on here and if you got about phony scandals you have to own up to this one and carney slips up in a big well think anyone noticed that they stand scarborough didn't notice it But Carney slips up and he just puts his foot in his mouth as far as I'm concerned. what any of us think of the investigations on Capitol Hill and I see you smiling. I don't know that there's anything to smile about, that it wasn't a couple of crazy people in Cincinnati that this information actually went up to the Chief Counsel of IRS which was one of two political appointees by the President United States and entire IRS so... It doesn't sound phony to me Jay. Joe, I greatly appreciate that is the line being pushed by Republicans who want Washington to be focused

1:12:53 on scandals instead of the economy. No, no, no, no! Wait Joe... Is that the truth or not Jay? You said Jay that this was limited to Cincinnati That wasn't true I want to talk about the economy but don't give me talking points because that doesn't work on this show and you've been here long enough to know it doesn't work on this show so answer my question and then let's talk about the economy when you get to the question i'll answer here what we had all i was given you decided to fight me jason style your games with me we've known each other for too long i'm not playing your games and that's a good talk to talk down to from the podium answer my question jay joe please let me answer there is no question that activity that occurred at the white hat at the r s uh... well

1:13:47 How good was that one? Really oh, I didn't even have a clue. Well thank you. I wasn't expecting anything like that It's beautiful though at the White House Yeah, yeah, I love it though in Scarborough just says hey You don't talk down to me like you do to everybody else Screw you. I guess they're old friends or something, he's pissed at him. Well no, didn't Carney used to work at Time? Or whatever... These guys all know each other They're all hanging out the Washington Press Club

1:14:24 Yeah, so this whole thing is better bargain and then we've got you know make it what is this I mean? I don't read about us like Oh McDonald's You know the people who work there can't afford to eat there and McDonald should double the wage of the people who work there And then the Big Mac will cost only 68 cents more It's just and then did you see all that me you must have seen yeah, it's hilarious. And then USA Today came out with What was this survey based on? I didn't get in, obviously. Uh-oh! What's happening? I'm hearing some... Okay. USA Today had some survey here it is data exclusive to the Associated Press. So i don't know where it's coming from which basically says four out of every five families in America are poor and the face of the poor in America is white

1:15:16 Did you see this survey? This is pretty big. Yeah, yeah well that's a known fact because there are more... everybody is in bad shape and then there are more whites than any... Right Although, Hispanics a lot of them don't get counted on these things. They close the door and people's faces... No you go! You go! So while we're still on this I want to get rid of these clips which is yeah this is an example of Obama's discussion Somehow this is idea of how the economy works and how we can get jobs and all the rest of play the Obama nomics clip Okay Oops, sorry. Oops That's what you don't want to hear from your co-hosts and from your pilot Independent Congressional Budget Office estimates that the cuts that are being made right now in Washington will cost our economy 750 thousand jobs this year

1:16:17 900,000 fewer jobs next year. And a lot of the jobs at risk are at small businesses that contract with our military or federal agencies. Over the past four years another 700,000 workers at the federal state and local levels government have lost their jobs these are cops and firefighters about half them are people who work in our schools those are real jobs It doesn't help a company like Amazon when a teacher or cop or firefighter loses their job. They don't have money to place an order. That's hundreds of thousands customers who have less money to spend." My wife! And they can't donate to the No Odd Gender show? Supposedly there are more jobs being created and all the rest, meanwhile

1:17:13 He's talking about the sequester and the budget cuts. And these budget cuts, we always have to remember... Say you have a Department of Education get they're getting one let's say the unit one which pays for all these teachers and their schedule to get 1.2 next year in terms of just an absolute number because it's always increasing constantly so they're gonna get 1.1 and this is called the budget cut But it's not a real cut because they're still getting over one. Now, why does anybody get fired in this scenario? This makes no sense! There is more money... Yeah Not less money It's just the cuts are in the increases I mean, I don't understand why this bull crap Is constantly perpetuated by everybody Well because that what we do All these budgets are bigger That's what we do In the media All these bogus... Oh, they had to fire everybody Why?!

1:18:14 I don't know. There's more money than before, it just drives me crazy Well where is the money? Because the only place i see the money is with the Russians in Saint-Tropez spraying champagne! I don't see any money anywhere else Probably goes to them The money's going somewhere It's a crazy situation and you know we read these financial blogs and I listen of course to your show with Horowitz and you see Detroit, a lot of European banks apparently are on the hook for Detroit derivatives. I don't know what's true anymore it's hard to tell Philadelphia is suing the banks for the LIBOR scandal

1:18:59 There's like 700 trillion of derivatives now out there. And then, you know if you follow what people are saying about the quantitative easing that if the bond yield on a 10-year bond goes up by 2% and everything comes crashing down I mean is October still on according to your cycle theory? Is that where we're at because it sure feels to me just from reading stuff that we are headed towards something if countries could just keep printing money and it would work all the time, then we'd never go bankrupt. It would always work! It can't! It doesn't make sense! To a point...

1:19:37 So here, you can also overheat the economy by doing that but it hasn't been taking place because we're in a depression and I've noticed that Paul Krugman is the only person who actually calls what we're in a depression. He says depression he uses the word nobody else does Can I just say... And when you are in a depression Well when your in a depression When your in a depression You rent an Airbnb This girl who has this apartment Is a lawyer And she, and this is her house. This is where she lives all her stuff's here All the books are here That's a depression hello Yeah She went to stay with a girlfriend To rent out her place for four days to us And she must be looking at it and going, crap man these guys are celebrities what are they doing renting my airbnb? Well it cuts both ways. It's the depression! So uh thank you. Depression so in a depression you can pump money into the economy until it creates an inflationary situation which is hasn't done as far as I'm concerned

1:20:32 Now, here's what's going to happen. They're going to get rid of Bernanke in October but they're either going to put in the woman that is already in the Federal Reserve as an associate or assistant or vice whatever... Yeah yeah I keep hearing her What's her name? Or they are gonna put in Larry Summers Oh no! That guy falls asleep Larry Summers is no good. They have to keep the woman there because she's all for this continuation, by the way people don't realize this is the quantitative easing thing is still going on so that money being pumped into the economy This again to me reflects the cycle that took place in 1849-1850 where gold was discovered which it's just like finding money instead of having a plenty but we don't have that and then the natural gas is not going to replace or be right as you go to the goal I'm now up

1:21:18 I've been finally, well i've been reading Marx. And by the way... Which book? The United States Civil War Okay There was a book that was put together of his he do you have to remember He was a newspaper columnist and an economist You're talking about Karl right Karl Marx Karl yeah, and he was the most famous economist of his era he was the who's the guy that died recently, he was very... Friedman. He is the Friedman of his era and then there are a bunch of these famous economists throughout time and you know they term Marxism has nothing to do with him. He didn't start a revolution, he is just writer and he is newspaper columnist. And so they put a bunch of statistics together- Stop! You are now saying something that is complete because I'm ignorant complete news to me

1:22:12 I had no, could you please elaborate just a little bit? What do you mean Marxism had nothing to do with him. It has nothing to do with him he didn't create the movement He wrote a book Das Kapital which was used as the basis for communist concepts and it became known as Marxism and a lot of this was done to provide by believe over time a lot of this was done to keep people from reading this guy Because he has a lot of interesting stuff to say. In fact, just as an aside I'll give you this little one He has in a letter to Engles his writing partner who is also a newspaper guy He has a letter and they're discussing the Civil War with the perspective that I've never even thought of discussing or heard of which is that the southern slaveholders

1:23:00 Use their slave holdings and there was only 330,000 slave holders and they held about 3 million slaves. Those slaves all had a vote it wasn't a full vote but it was a partial vote and the slaveholders are the ones that got to use that vote. So when there were these very, uh... There was this conventions in all the different states and with the exception of South Carolina that wanted to split off from United States they didn't care they've always want to split off because their leaders all believe that there should be a monarchy in this country and if the country wasn't gonna go that way they would and they'd set up a king of South Carolina yeah and they still are that way in that state which is fine

1:23:42 But anyway, so all these other states were essentially the votes in these conventions was rigged by the slaveholders who had the slave vote which was I think three-fifths of a vote or something like that. So they had essentially about a million more than a million extra votes on top of their vote that they would use to just to rig these things most of the public the poor this is gonna this is a shocker and now this letter needs to be reprinted Most of the public in the South did not want to secede from the Union. They didn't want to do it, they didn't see any benefit in it, they knew was going to create some sort of a conflict and then whole thing was a disaster and it became that. The Southern pop...they were held hostage by the slaveholders which is a small portion of the southern population which I believe was a total five million non-slaves in the south and three hundred thousand

1:24:40 330,000 slaveholders. The slaveholders were the elites and they decided for whatever reason that they wanted to have the war and they screwed the southern population which to this day carries over with it with them kind of lousy schools are all the rest of the crap that goes on. Okay but how does that relate back to Marx? I just want to make sure that there was a little extra thing. Marx was discussing this, so Marx points out in his Civil War thing which is what got my attention because i'm still on the cycles book that there was a panic and 40... sorry! There's a panic and... What? I know big joke yeah it's not like i'm not working on it uh there was a panic there were two

1:25:23 actually two depressions and one was a panic if you look it up and go to Google right in panic of 1847 there was a panic in 1847 that was a bubble very similar to the housing bubble. It was a rail building bubble, it created a quasi depression similar to the one that's what started in 2007 right on the mark right on the exact year of the cycle and then the next when they came after panic of 1847, collapse of British financial markets associated with the end of the 1840s railway industry boom. That's interesting! Very interesting so that created this worldwide economic

1:26:11 downturn and then the backup to that was 1857 which is all in the same cycles that I've been discussing all these years, working on this. So that means... That says to me that the chances they were going to have the 1857 or I'm sorry 2017 collapse is higher then the possibility that we're going to have a collapse this October, which would be kind of parallel to the 1933 bottom and all these other things that take place on this particular year. I think we're gonna sneak through this and get to 2017. Really? Without a huge collapse? Yeah! But wait a minute... 2017 is when...

1:26:59 this is really a problem. I've been in Europe for you know over a week and a half and everyone's like oh when are you gonna come by? And i keep telling them, Oh after the war! And they'll go what?! What wars? The 2017 War No, there's not a war in 2017. The wars in... well it might be in Europe but there is a war in 2020 because that is an 80-year cycle now this one kind of interesting because I've been thinking about this too what is cause you have to can't guess this war I mean most these wars you could and on the eighty year cycle their the worst has been as follows right on the numbers there was American Revolution which is to get rid of British occupation

1:27:37 Then there was the Civil War which took place, which I just discussed a second ago 80 years later and then 80 years after that there was World War II Which was a horrible war. Yeah well it was not an outstanding product no So the next cycle is 2020, there should be a war. But every... and I thought about this every war that we've had in this country it major conf... not World War One which was you know we showed up yeah kind of just tipped the balance The first one was against an outside force, the British. Yeah The second one was against ourselves We're just fighting ourselves Yes, right! The third one was against Europe essentially

1:28:17 uh... or a way where we had some japanese and japanese but it was a little bit was countries as well as our country versus the these countries right what would be the fourth one if it's going to be different aliens that's not what you might call at the it's time i think we're gonna fight against their own government man how cool with that p that'll be also media now defend because you know we win You know the government can't beat that, and it would make a lot of sense. Someone else is thinking this if you look at all the military drills are taking place in urban areas. They're floating everywhere they're getting ready for urban warfare so I may not be alone in this

1:29:02 I never have believed that my thoughts on this, including the cycle and the years and the coincidences is singular. I'm not some guy that's over here...I am not the only guy thinking this! And let me just say- And i'm sure there's somebody in some think tank thinking the same thing Wait a minute are you now basically on board with the Alex Jones train? Is that what I'm hearing? No, Alex Jones is doing something. I don't know what the hell he's up to Because you know this is kind of the thing. Yeah but this is 2020, we're way out there on this. Alright 2020. So he thinks tomorrow... No it's not gonna happen tomorrow no so what you're saying we have about seven years and that's when we get to the get-to-it

1:29:45 to the war but that's beside the point because we're going to have an economic collapse in 2017. That's what I have to be prepared for right? Right, right okay so bring it back around to Marx just so we can close this and this has been very educational really appreciate this and you've...and i have to say I don't know how the book is doing but in these six years who've been doing the show and you repeated this its gotten into a really good you got a good rap going on with us now and the thing that I think i'm pretty sure it's very good. I'd like you to come back to the thing, just say Karl Marx if you... If I walk in the street with one of those man on the street interviews people are like Karl Marx was a dictator man he killed millions of people! I am telling you no one knows about Karl Marx! I know its hilarious so he was a writer he was essentially uh... he worked for the CNBC of the day

1:30:39 and he was just writing something, and then they memed him into some horrible dude so that people wouldn't read the book. Is that what I'm hearing you say? Well it's not just a bookie... He wrote a lot! Yeah. I've read his columns You know he wrote during the Civil War period So he wrote a lot about the Civil War And had a lot of observations He was a columnist Hello?! There ya go Who else do we know who is a columnist Let me think Can you imagine In like 50 years from now, there's a bronze head of you? Yeah. Great! You know what I really loved about Marx? I loved his music. And I loved his brothers... I've got his music right here See, you're even worse than I am No one remembers the Marx Brothers There ya go Remember this

1:31:31 by the late great Karl Marx, Carl Richard Marx? Alright never mind. No I don't know Carl Richard Marx That was a very obscure 80s joke So uh anyway that's my Mar- that's my Marx material I'd say that was very good The guy is a marxist he's reading Marx you can't read Marx I like it. I like it. Okay, so Nigel Farage is on a BBC Q&A show...I've never seen or heard this show before Yeah no question time I think it is yeah question time yes what its called and there's some guy ranting about you know war criminals and how George Bush and Tony Blair should be hauled in the front of The Hague thrown in jail and then he goes to

1:32:17 Farage who says, or starts to... he actually takes some shots at the US I thought was kind of interesting. I think it comes back to issues like the war on terror where we are sending our working class people to go and fight in illegal wars overseas for America's economic interests and it is about time that we stopped sending the working class people to go and fight for America's economic interest and started bringing people like Tony Blair and others who were in the Labour government that time up to The Hague to face a war, the war crimes tribunals they deserve to face not a threat and what did that guy just say actually did he uh... there was a lot of time here he says it he says we're fighting wars for america's interest should stop it which is by the way they will crap is bullcrap were fighting in for british petroleum for total oil well instead yeah okay

1:33:05 Those are all American interests too. I think we have a slightly schizophrenic debate on this because we're all horrified this week by what we've heard and yet just two or three weeks ago in the wake of the Woolwich murders, a lot of people were screaming and shouting saying look the security services knew who these guys were why wasn't more done? So it is about, several of the panel have said this it is about balance however Is what is happening or potentially happening here an acceptable price was the question. And I think when the Americans launched the war on terror under George Bush, they've gone so far down a road where frankly in America they have now launched a war on liberty and freedom. It applies not just to surveillance it applies to a plea bargaining system where if the state says you're guilty you have almost no choice but to plea bargain guilty and so i would say this Leslie's right these are big American companies

1:34:05 and users have got to be aware that if they're going through American internet service providers, their stuff is not safe. I hope we do get some alternatives out of it and i really do not want us to go down the route where we allow the liberty of millions of people in this country to be destroyed because were following the Americans who frankly gone completely over the time i do prevent it if you've got face book a few if that's where you'll be working on facebook how do you know how to prevent it i think people have to cautious uh... when they using all forms of social media cautious about what they say but by what they did not do nothing for whatever use a on facebook is private isn't okay i'd like to say something here um... first of all please clap uh... first of all that the chat room has now coined into divorakism so there you can read and he can write that down

1:34:56 I have been thinking about this and we have forgotten what the internet is and what you can do with it. This has been long forgotten, and it wasn't really that long ago I've been running my own mail server. There's all kinds of ways you can communicate, and even Nigel Farage is propagating this whole idea that the only way to use the internet is to use Facebook and Twitter, and this is part of a coordinated plan there's some psychological thing going on where people fall into it and they really believe that this is all that the internet is, with the internet itself as a network that cannot be defeated by design. And I have in my own law... As you know we have Dvorak's Law which has been accepted by The Urban Dictionary denied by Wikipedia Would you like to recount Dvorak's Law? Yeah! In a depression

1:36:00 The hookers are cheaper and better looking. Very good, and I have heard people steal this at least partially about the cheap part but they always forget the better-looking part which i think is a shame because that is the full law My law, Curry's Law if you will... The more technology is centralized the more it enslaves us And if you think about it... I don't think its quite as good as my law There's no hooker involved Yeah, well yeah if hookers if the hooker technology no I like my you get hookers into this somehow. No Like my law the way it is and we need to and you need to decentralize this stuff This is all of these things are gonna fall apart They're not going to work in all and can you know that?

1:36:57 You know, so now we got Google Fiber and everyone's like oh Google Fiber is fantastic. I'm moving to Austin for Google Fiber and the first thing that's in Google... So you can just give Google everything? Yeah! And right there it states you're not allowed to run a server on Google Fiber. Why-I think I'm seriously considering Just starting a little mini ISP in Austin. What happened to the mom-and-pop? Isp what happened that they got bought out pushed out out, but it's not Right, but it's not impossible to start that up again No There's still actually a number of independents all over the country those hundreds and you know And why shouldn't I just go get there this is great Linux email package Yeah, tell you why

1:37:44 You haven't got enough time to do... you know what it did with that's a full-time job. How are you gonna do the show? No, I'm not talking..I mean you get my point is like we can do this, we can get around this and just see it as a reality show people who don't get it and stay on Facebook they eventually get voted off the island I mean that's just the way it is but people are crazy that they accept this. And its not being taught anywhere what the internet really is. You're right actually Nigel he should have said well get off Facebook instead of making this excuse. Be careful in your own face. Exactly, now that's what you're complaining about. Yeah he should have said we need to teach our young people

1:38:30 How the internet works and how you can utilize it. And to just say, oh it's Facebook, its Twitter, its social media... That is.. I mean the elites are laughing! You're falling right into their trap where the true network itself cannot by design be broken. Stupid idiots. Well that's not the no agenda people although most of them are on Google Plus drives me crazy. Yeah, which is worse! So... You know the so-a thing is disturbing The what? So-a Oh I said it yeah I've been saying that well just a way to kill. It's a way to grab attention No it's exactly the same as being a hummer

1:39:25 It's not. It's worse. It's a version of humming because you're just making noise for no apparent reason Yeah, exactly I've been very conscious of not doing it and starting off If you listen to people they are talking to each other So how are you doing? so i don't know so what's going on so how is the weather so what do you do so what so what you want you wanted its all so everyone starts with so I'm gonna start with look yeah much better this uh... jack what's it was a barney jack is the service hacker who i'd never heard of before and he died at eight did you listen did you listen or look at some of his youtube videos were discussed in some of the stuff he studies yeah yet outrageously great of course by had no idea what to know what he was all about until we died which always sucks

1:40:20 and this is right in line with what is happening now isn't it and then was a call you know he'd i even heard on twit i think you know someone claimed the had a pacemaker and that he died no dandy of course we're going to expose how pace makers can be sabotage from afar let me tell you what's going on right now and whether barney jack was used by coincidence or whether he was killed to get it started which I would immediately believe. This is what Sir Dr. Sharkey, our very own doctor alerted us to several months ago He said I'm getting nothing but information from medical journals for medical publications about how dangerous all of the medical devices are and people can hack into everything anywhere and what has happened is right up to you know one of the premier kind

1:41:17 gossip magazines for business i would say is Forbes magazine everyone in business everyone and you know fortune five hundred sports in one thousand they all read Forbes magazine would you agree with me I think more people than yeah I think a lot of people reform it's very gossipy right even though they do make a point of being high-end journalists that seems to be digging did reveal a lot of dirt okay so this started with Michael Hastings and if you really want to get something moving in this world, you wanna get the hackers motivated. You wanna get everyone on board. You wanna have Kaiser Alexander talking at Black Hat Def Con wherever the hell he's at. You wanna have Michael Hastings' car being carjacked and killed that way. You wanna have Barnaby Jack being killed by his pacemaker being controlled by the evil empire And of course your gonna send your Forbes guy to test a car...and this was actually

1:42:15 you know I'd have to say borderline promotion for the brand-new bonanza, bonanza i tell you of cyber security corporations that are going to be created that are being created as we speak this is going to be this is Y2K times 10. It's quite terrifying when you don't have brakes right? Now we're in Chicago and I just saw a tweet from Charlie that he's driving up from St. Louis in the car that he is going to hack, so when we arrive we are gonna have about 24 hours to mess around with this car and...I believe these guys are gonna make it work because they're serious professionals and they have a lot of money from DARPA, the research wing of the Defense Department. If you're going anywhere-

1:43:10 If you're going 80 in traffic at this, right? This is gonna be... What I'm doing here is that I flooded the CAN network with traffic with a speed it didn't know about. And that's why the speedometer read zero and then I told the car it was in reverse and it was trying to park itself Oh. ...and therefore it was doing very heavy jerky motions if you would have stopped the car completely You would have seen the wheel do two complete rotations in a clockwise direction This is one of the funnest and most annoying ones. Oh my god! So this video goes on and on, jerking the seatbelts and turning the steering wheel... Right. Well I was just going to say yes every story you're gonna be reading now is how your boat is vulnerable how your motorcycle's vulnerable how electronic toothbrushes are vulnerable your microwave is vulnerable hackers are going to kill you every single way you can

1:44:06 Well, let's make sure we make one thing clear for people who haven't seen this video. For one they ripped the car apart to get to the computers it wasn't like it's that from some remote somebody sitting there with a Wi-Fi set up and they grabbed the car and started driving around They essentially stripped the car so they could like essentially plug into these various subsystems And then they made the horn honk and they made the wheel turn. The thing was a joke, it was a joke! But it's promotion John! All that showed me is you can't do these things, you can't remotely control a car What this is...is giant promotion and everyone's jumping on board every single Silicon Valley bloggy thing like the GigaOMS and the Wired magazine and everyone's gonna jump on This is money I smell it, this is huge money

1:44:58 Because everyone wants to have a part of the, now we need our entire fleet needs to be cyber securitized and all our medical devices. We can't have hackers go... It's gonna it's a bonanza. Hardened? Yeah hardened and we called this, we saw this months ago And here it is and of course its true everything is I mean this isn't Curry's law You get all these technologies centralized you give them to Toyota let them do it all Of course your going to be enslaved by one way or another Hookers. I just gotta throw that in there maybe she's maybe Curry's law should be no way wait You can't throw the word hooker. No, it should just be the end of it Just be the more technology is centralized the more enslaves us hookers. I think that That completes the law thank you. I was looking for that. I knew it wasn't complete

1:45:47 And in the UK, this is what bothers me. The way this is reported so you get this Forbes thing which has totally set up it's meant to all because all you hear now as people are they're going hack into your car? They killed Hastings. They killed Barnaby Jack I'm not so sure about all that and then you get this... This is how was tweeted over and over again First it comes at people when you send me an article like Wired Magazine and wired is referring to activist post, and activist posts are referring to the open rights group. Would you please make the click stream yourself and go to the source of the article before you tweet the link or email it to me? Have you noticed this John that people don't even read

1:46:34 They won't go, they're too lazy to go the original source. So Wired quotes an article in The Washington Post which quotes and article in a blog which quote some guy's paper. We want the paper we don't want all this crap in the middle! And so the story that has been going around is... ...the opt-out net filters in the UK will include conspiracy theories there's no evidence of this. There is no, I mean will it? Could it? Yeah could it yeah of course it could would they love to yeah of course and then I'm not disputing the fact that can happen but please its a far cry from the open rights group saying here's what it could look like an adding the word uh... what was it obscure was that when it was I can't find right now

1:47:32 about no and i know it's a terry esoteric material eric right then the district strappling that too with the wired wire articles u k to ban conspiracy theories now please this is not good use of my time and this is uh... you know what do they want to be that sure but it's not happening like that and it's not written that way in his new facts no proof interest And I think that if anything, the alternative media is being duped. Because all we're talking about is how

1:48:09 you know all how everything is vulnerable in the new year you can get killed by the government doing this or that and snowed in his got finally he's gotten a no after publishing yet another power point. This doesn't tell me anything I'm seeing power points, I've seen some PowerPoint decks. What do we have? X keyhole? The x asshole Powerpoint! I am not impressed But instead of talking about the actual laws and section 215, and how the amendment was voted down by your very own representatives. We should be with pitchforks in Washington DC getting ready to chop somebody's head off that they actually didn't even try to tether this in

1:48:56 No. They didn't, they just... A lot of lip service though! A lot of lip service and this is what's going on This is the whole game The game is to get you talking about Snowden I don't give a...I really don't care I really don't care about him And to talk about...and listen to Glenn Greenwald It's not about that it was what actually happening This was funny this is ummm let me see This is also from the Morning Joe show. This is Steve Ratner, who I think was the... wasn't he a car czar or something for the Obama administration?

1:49:37 Some point anyway here to hear so they play a piece of Glenn Greenwald and here's the conversation greenwald as we As we bumped into this segment in this discussion And I will say everybody had a different body language reaction to it which I won't define But it wasn't completely comfortable, and I think because it's not a black and white story, it's not a good and evil story. Glenn Greenwald thinks that is well thats the point thats exactly the point first of all Glenn Greenwald is not a journalist he's an activist portraying himself as a journalist maybe another conversation I love that! He's not a journalist... ...He's an activist And I think this guy is right He's actually really good journalist by the way but he writes the way it should be done he gets the sources he outlines stuff very well structured if anybody's a journalist its him

1:50:26 But he's not gonna be, he's gonna go down as wanton publishing. Yeah. So anyway so... I have the wanton publishing thing by the way did you know that he was found guilty on wanton publishing? Who? Manning! Well at the actual charge was wanton publishing That's one of the things he got charged with. I have a little clip here that explains it if you don't mind interrupting your train of thought here. No, please let's... Yeah, I got it, I got it. Alexa O'Brien, one of the charges for which Bradley Manning was found guilty was what they called wanton publication Could you explain the significance of this especially with respect to military law and with regard to WikiLeaks?

1:51:13 Absolutely. So, wanton publication Manning was found guilty of he faces two years maximum for it now this particular offense has never been used in a military court-martial before it's not tied to any existing federal violation or punitive article under the Uniform Code of Military Justice Now what's interesting about this is oftentimes whatever witnesses testified for aiding the enemy also testified for wanted publication And what the government, essentially their case when it was based on wanted publication the release of large data sets Was essentially that WikiLeaks was not a legitimate journalistic organization That was one of their sort of theories that propped this up and the other one was that evidence about

1:51:59 receipt by the enemy of intelligence could be used to show that Manning's leaks were wanted. So this is meant to prescribe disclosures, large data sets on that that are made available by the internet. It's very cheap for people to publish right now, and while Manning doesn't have to be the proximate publisher it certainly is a chill or prohibition against anyone who in the military or in the national security arena who wants to publish something on the internet that will make the government angry. We're angry!

1:52:37 We're angry so we're gonna come up with this trumped-up bogus charge that's not even in the rule book and charge you with it with two years in jail. How does that even work? When you follow this case by the way apparently, oh there are 2 things actually... Do I have this clip though as a question? Damnit! I may not have gotten it but let me tell you what was the uh... No I don't have it So apparently the judge in the case, I must have this clip. Geez what an idiot how did i miss this? Anyway the judge in the case has been given a promotion in the middle of the case! Oh really? And this guy... and the guy who's apparently Julian Assange's lawyer he had..I'll find his clip we played on Sunday. Julian Assange or Bradley Manning

1:53:32 Assange. He was just doing some commentating and he says, yeah they gave her a promotion right into to a higher court right in the middle of the case it was the government that did this so she'd play ball. The only time this happened... he says this happened before during the trial of the Pentagon Papers guy. They did the same thing then! And we have a frontal Another job is a you know if you play ball with us again until this woman has has this woman judge in the Manning case Has been just essentially allowing for example After the guy after he's found guilty all these charges for the government to lay more charges down And just assume that these guilty of all of them. You know what that is hold, that's Marxism

1:54:20 it's a kangaroo court yeah and so he is going to get what, 170 years? well that the possibility you and I are gonna rot in jail one day when they come up with the wanton podcasting we're gonna rot in jail. Wanton podcasting! You guys are just podcasts, your talking too long Joe Rogan uh... is doing this show a TV show which is, it's like Joe Rogan Investigates Everything. And I really like Joe Rogan's podcast. I really like it alot and I can't listen to all the time because of just time in general but he has got great stuff especially when he has guests on But then he does this show and its like... Is he hedging against something? I've been offered this exact show here in The Netherlands They say oh we have got this great idea you're gonna go out and investigate conspiracy theories

1:55:10 in 22 minutes. Are you crazy? This is the job they gave to the governor of Minnesota, Jesse Ventura! Exactly and they'll do anything they'll throw money at you they'll do anything to get us to shut up and go away including I guess pre-scaring us with this wanton publication thing now neither you or i are in the military that I know of So we should be okay, but how long man? How long and will they actually come up with the media shield law when you have to as you claim And I think you're right. We'll have to have a license to be a journalist hello Singapore Hello Brazil All right here we go. I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah that'd be fab Oh No Agenda

1:56:05 Well, the one thing we know for sure is that we're not going to be swayed by money because here you go. We only had like I think 50 total donations above $50 and less than a producership over three shows which is less than 20 a show it's pretty pathetic so but and which would make us never get a journalist license. The journalist license in Brazil for example actually you have to pay a fee every year. It's like a tax, you have to be a taxed rate. Logan5 in the chatroom just said here is an idea declare your podcast as religion that may not be a bad idea actually we're pretty close to it Scott Schoenberger $150 dollars in Malibu California no comment Kyle Magnum 12358 Chattanooga Tennessee trying to correct his boner status

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1:59:50 And there's a lot of swingers, it seems in Texas. Oh really? Well I should get to know them. Well apparently the hot spot... Wait a minute did you talk to your friend again? The hot spot in Texas There are apparently three towns Yes Dallas Of course San Antonio Oh! San Antone and Austin. No, Austin can't be a swinger's club. It has a club, it has an actual building, a physical club A swinger's club in Austin? Yes And what is the name of said club? Friends Okay I shall investigate Go to Google type in Austin Swingers Club Friends and you'll get the name of the place and I'm suspicious now all these meetings and dinners are having

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2:12:15 Not so crazies. Yeah, well we've got to remain portraying ourselves as crazy's that's Important I mean it was you who actually said on this show at John C Dvorak if five six years ago Anyone had said hey, you know Dvorak was saying that were probably gonna go to war against their own government There's no way You're like, no you weren't listening to Dvorak. There must have been something else. Yeah what's he got to do with that? Nothing at all! Hey please help us out for our Sunday show we're going to be working very hard they are expecting about 98 degrees here in the Netherlands get Molo lands on Sunday so and of course... That is not good No there is no air conditioning Your equipment won't work I am sitting in my underwear I hate to give you the visual but that's all I have on

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2:14:26 this uh... train thing that you mentioned in the newsletter i have a some thoughts on as well but we've had and this has been kind of in the talk in europe uh... since there's been it was about i think we've had to three train wrecks a bus wreck is your public transportation is killing more people than terrorism ever hasn't his point time which of course no we're not going to ban trains or new would do not gonna do anything to balance out your safety against your security and your freedoms but okay it doesn't matter there is something strange going on and you have said i think believe me you brought this up in the newsletter so i'm expecting to you to have a turn well became a because uh... jc had over dinner was ahead of our beaver that's come as killed junior buzzkill junior said that he was talking to guys during their trying to recruit somebody and he works for general electric and eat turns out this guy is purely connected all that

2:15:24 high-speed rail in the whole world he knows everything and he says there's no way that any high speed rail can do this it's just not possible and in fact they train will stop if there is a problem because all this signaling for four levels of safety on these trains. Okay, wait a minute so we're establishing something here this story that has been given to us And I've only, I've read a lot but I've looked at the television, the telescreen thingy here and the story that's beginning to us is the guy was calling and calling someone

2:16:01 and then he was like, oh! He posted on his Facebook look how fast I'm going. And then he wrecked and 70 people died in it was just stupid. He's a maniac the guy was a maniac crazy engineer. Exactly. Well this engineers on these trains don't do anything they just sit there and they are like to last resort they can stop the train but you can go fast you can gun it you get me? And I was thinking about that bull crap bowl look at the picture of my speedometer Every time I'm on one of these high-speed rails and i see this thing, they always have a sign someplace showing how fast you're going. I always take a picture of it! I've taken about 10 pictures at these speeds. Oh look at us we are doing 300 kilometers an hour or whatever... You know? Click a picture of it. And so blaming the engineer for this is ridiculous. It turns out that what they're trying to do is blame the guy who took the pressure off the Spanish government

2:16:58 Whose it's their fault because in fact in this guy who I finally found the right clip The guy who is a civil engineer in Spain and he discusses what really goes on with these things. This wasn't high-speed rail by the way, it was a high performance train and it has the signaling they decided for some reason probably because they didn't have money they didn't want to put this signaling near this town so that this train was on track... And these trains by the way are really cool to train guys because it actually can change gauges. Oh really? It can go to a whole different track, oh wow! Yeah yeah I thought that was interesting so... Are you are you a trained guy?

2:17:44 I like trains. I have a friend... I shoot pictures of trains, and you know the engineer at Z100 in New York David Reeves he actually released the CD and it sold quite well an audio cd of trains and it was fascinating and he went to train tracks all around the world and he recorded in high fidelity trains. I would actually like to have that disc. I'll bet you can still find it, it was a best seller he made a lot of money...I think he retired! He's no longer an engineer at this radio station

2:18:22 Yeah, yeah we get it. You like trains? Okay what are we playing? So anyway... Now so I'm going to play that but before we do that there's one thing i didn't when I was doing the little research here and finally found a definitive guy so I didn't have to do much more. I did hear one thing that I didn't know that did you know that the Spanish high-speed system is number 1 is the biggest in Europe? Uh no I did not know I didn't even think that we'd have... This is the thing about Spain, they just keep all this information away from us. When you visit the place go what's going on here? Just play the Spanish high-speed rail factoid number, it's a short clip. Well it says number two

2:19:00 Yeah, okay. Oh factoid number one is what you just told me? Okay. Its network although still in progress today carries some 23 million passengers per year along more than 3,000 kilometers of track at speeds averaging 222 kilometers per hour the only country with a more extensive network is China. In spite of the economic crisis, Spain this year has inaugurated two new lines in January one joined Barcelona with Figueres at the French border making international high-speed train travel possible with its neighbor all the way to Paris." Alright can I get in here now? Can I lay some information on you or do you have more too...I don't want to interrupt your flow Well I do have the clip of the civil engineer who explains the problem and what caused the wreck

2:19:44 What is that titled? It's called High-Speed Rail Crash Summary. I got civil engineer from that title, no problem here we go. From Barcelona we're now joined by Ricardo Reyol a civil engineer and chairman of the Association for the Promotion of Public Transport. What news outlet was this taken from? Euronews. Oh, very good. It is still too early to draw conclusions on the causes of the accident but some of the circumstances are becoming more clear The wrecked train was high performance but not a high speed AVE train How is that different from a high-speed train? Alright I gotta interrupt because I want to come back to this exact point because your previous clip made more sense for what I have to say

2:20:36 Okay, once you say what you're gonna say then we can play a little more of this. This is a long clip We don't to play the whole thing or you can put it in the show notes for people to listen to it's very very interesting So that you were they were talking about the connections from Spain all the way to France In Europe right now there is a huge amount of business being done when it comes to rail and high-speed rail. And I can look at the Netherlands, and anyone who lives in the Netherlands knows that for the past 20 years... 20 years! That it has been headlines about the high speed rail, the Betuwelein which goes all the way to Germany They've been ripping up tearing down entire towns to get this high speed rail going now they have a... every single piece of this is a scandal

2:21:23 it's billions of euros and no one rides the freaking trains they have this that the the fear out which is the highest for the high-performance rail between amsterdam in rotterdam another scandal of epic proportions the trains are wrong that track is wrong everything sucks billions are spent and if when you know that spain uh... uh... spain has a bit out sixteen billion euro bullet train that Renfe I think is the outfit that was bidding on this and there's a lot of companies, Siemens i would say as of course the number one they're the ones that pretty much bankrupted and corrupted Greece with all their rail. It's not just high-speed it's high performance everything part of the tender

2:22:18 Says that if you have had if you if your equipment has been in an accident a serious accident their specifications It's in the show notes within the last five years. You're ineligible for bidding 16 billion euros This is a huge huge deal and there's all kinds of bidding going on in Europe right now I would not put it past any corporation certainly Siemens to sabotage something if possible and I know it's conspiratorial thinking. I like the theory but i believe that most of the signaling which is what caused the problem with this train was not... This is a Bombardier. Oh, Bombardier? Okay. Bombardier built this train with some other, it's a joint venture and I don't think there are leaders in this area but they have a bunch of nice trains that they're the ones at switch gauges

2:23:10 which would probably useful in the netherlands could you be a different gauge for high-speed and you know i have a train is more versatile because what what does it say i think if eighty mile an hour train which is a slow train uh... can get across netherlands in what twenty two minutes now five minutes that takes more than the trains are written you can walk or not another from the court but all i know is There's a lot of contracts out there, this is huge money. By God the California so-called high speed rail they've slipped in all kinds of new requirements and lowered the technical requirements so other companies can come in No one is looking at this because people are like, ah, rail whatever we don't really care but there's no real journalism going on around this because it seems like old technology and its much more fun to talk about the iPhone iOS 7 or whatever

2:23:59 but this is a great there's some really what that that's more fun to use scandal did this because of these these lines it's it was really hard economic collapse of eighteen thousand seven they are thank you that's exactly where i was going to take it as when u when you brought up the eighteen forty seven which was the train bubble really that collapsed it wasn't like some people who want to take trains, it was a bubble right? It was an over investment in rail and exactly the same thing is happening. Which is exactly the story of...

2:24:46 Well, anyway let me summarize. I want to put the long clip in the show notes. You wanna play a little more? I'm happy to play a little bit more if you want. Yeah, you can play a little more because it's somewhat educational but actually there is an interesting thing at the end that was more interesting More interesting because he you won't get this far. I guarantee it He calls for the he says these government inquiries are both bullcrap cuz they're done by the Transportation Authority and they'll never gonna point a finger at themselves for not putting in the proper equipment And he says it needs to be an independent study, but you can play some Basically its maximum speed is less than an AVE high-speed train up to 250 kilometers an hour and it can run on high speed lines and on conventional tracks

2:25:29 How could the train go into that particular section of track, so close to the station at Compostela at 190 km an hour? Generally that's not possible on a high-speed line such as Madrid Barcelona or Madrid Seville but on that line it happens that trains entering Santiago de Compostela are not monitored permanently by the signaling system they're only occasionally checked. Is this system automatic? It's an automatic system which only checks the train when it passes a detector on the track, whereas on a high speed line the system is controlled continuously from a central position via radio so that the train is never going faster than the authorized speed. With that monitoring system what happens when the train goes faster then it should do?

2:26:27 In a continuous monitoring system, as is the case with the European Rail Traffic Management System... ...as soon as a train goes even slightly faster than the maximum authorized speed it's halted automatically. Alright this is great I want to play the rest of this but just wanna point out that we have all these bull crap about hacking cars and hacking medical devices and ohhhhhh we gotta watch out for this! But not a single person has said, hey maybe this train was hacked. No it's just a crazy driver Why is that John? What is going on in our reporting or our society or our general thinking that we don't...that doesn't even come to mind why is that

2:27:08 I think we like that, you know. I wonder that myself...I mean this thing seems to me to have been sabotaged or something because if it's an on and off, say there are incidental signaling spots that it goes by then has to make adjustments instead of being continuously monitored by the radio all you have to do is just smash a couple those let the train get whatever speed it is in then never tell it slow down which would be a sabotage could've been done any number ways but its like nobody Blaming the engineer and showing pictures he's a hot rodder, and bring Facebook in there. Come on! Yeah it's like doing all that is more... I don't know what what's happened but nobody wants to do the simplest bit of research. It took me

2:27:57 less than a half an hour to find this clip of this guy and even though I knew that there was something phony about the story because there's no way these guys aren't you know they don't have steering wheel and throttle in their driving. They're not shoveling coal into the oven. And i would guess that he was on the phone because apparently on the phone he had some paperwork from him, but He knew this thing was not acting right and he was on the phone because how else you can communicate anywhere? You get on the phone, you call central office. Yeah On your cellphone and say this train is not acting right now I've got plans here in front of me And why do we have this audio of a so-called...I heard it today here in Euronews

2:28:42 There's some audio of a guy, apparently the engineer going I don't know why i did it. All I know is that if you're on a 16 billion euro bid that's worth killing some people over because that's just the fact Well, because they don't care. They do not care! Whatever the case is you can play the rest of it again I want to play it this is good stuff That's what happens on all high-speed lines This system which also operates on this same line between Urense and Santiago You know why? Because no one is playing this stuff There's not a single...I've not heard this anywhere Where did you find this? Euronews again

2:29:23 Yeah, it was a video on Euronews. Very good! So someone is playing it but no one watches Euronews except you! ...stops three or four kilometers before Santiago Station and is replaced by a system used on conventional lines that high-speed system wasn't in place where the accident occurred Do you think the curve where the crash happened could have been a factor in how serious this accident was? Is it normal to have such a curve on a high-speed line? The curve exists because the line is approaching a populated area. There are high-speed lines with curves like that, precisely to bring trains close to where people want to get on. What's serious is that this curve is not protected by a system of continuous signaling which monitors the train all the time

2:30:15 but only with occasional monitoring on the track. The problem is not the route, but perhaps the signalling system on the route. In fact, the safety system should be adaptable, flexible for any kind of route because as well as straight lines for travelling fast high-speed trains have to link up with a conventional network to get into towns And so it's not about having routes that run in straight lines, but about having the line being safe from A to B. Spanish rail management organizations have opened an investigation do you think this will be enough?

2:30:57 I think there must also be an independent investigation that does not depend on the Ministry of Public Works to be able to compare the results, learn from the mistakes that have caused this disaster because railway accidents are rarely the result of one error rather they're caused by consecutive errors. I want to say something about this in The Netherlands the former minister of transportation, a guy named Camille Erlings who is I think he's in Northerner. I met him douchebag! He was the Minister... Oh now come on i can say this you know just one of these guys who just your politician just wants to get ahead and they're really elitist here because these guys all want eventually wind up in Brussels where the real power is and he was the the uh... the Minister Transportation

2:31:50 He leaves, what job does he take? CEO of KLM. Wow! Yeah! He literally went from the people he was regulating to the top job at-at the company that he was regulating and he's in the newspapers with his shit eating grin on his face Because you would be too. Yeah, of course except I'm not smart enough. I'm sitting here in my underwear doing a podcast Sweating mama hey mom was looking down on me She's proud my poor boy Are you proud of me mom?

2:32:27 I'm begging for money from the unappreciative audience. Hey, hey! She's sitting next to your mom who is saying the same thing No my mother is saying, eh this cabbage is no good. Oh okay Okay well just take a break from this dreadful discussion Play SWAT teams at work Okay Cabbage is no good. Start of the show... This was the scene outside a home in Idaho Springs about a week ago when two counties worth of SWAT team officers were forced to evict a 63 year old woman who refused to leave her foreclosed home A captain with the Clear Creek County Sheriff's Department says he has never had to order a tactical team to evict someone let alone a 63 year old woman Is this a great country or what?

2:33:23 Yeah, three. It wasn't one it was three techs they had ten vans By the way the vans Earlings was from the south not from the north I'm sorry okay let me lay one on you dr.. Oz has invented a new word and of course he's promoting a product because people Dr. Oz is shameful to the medical profession they I don't even know if he's a real doctor but if he is he should be disbarred or his light whatever did they do two doctors this bar him from the medical profession He's all he is is promote. It's just promotion he's promoting stuff. He's promoting the pharmaceutical industry He's one big promotional machine and people eat it up And so he's come up with a new word that will do this

2:34:14 It's very disturbing. Today I'm introducing you to a brand new word, Diabesity. Did you get it? Diabetes! Let's learn about diabetes. You may not have heard of it before but one out two... We haven't heard of it Dr Oz because it doesn't exist. You're making it up. ...has it so what is it? It's a combination of two of the most deadly diseases that we face, diabetes and obesity But my next guest says you have the power to reverse diabetes and lose 20 pounds. You can do it in just 6 weeks. Joining me is the author of The Blood Sugar Solution, Dr Mark Hyman. Welcome back. So he comes up with diabetes and one in two Americans have it either you or I who has it? Do you have diabetes? I must be overweight so I could lose 20 pounds but maybe I have diabetes. Maybe I'm pre-diabetic

2:35:11 you could be pre-diabesity. Diabetes is a big problem, like you said it affects every other American. He uses the word! Diabecety's a big problem. It's that little bit of belly fat to prediabetes. Oh there it is I got a little bit of belly fat and I'm pre diabetic type 2 diabetes. Anything that raises your blood sugar will cause this And it's an epidemic out there. We need to focus on how do we sort this out? It's an epidemic, John! I'm pre-masturbatory...I'm thinking about it This is what its come too Its really quite bad

2:36:02 So who's the head of the military? He wears, let me guess he is a short Irishman and he wears a badge because nobody knows his name. Yes, he has a nametag made out of bakelite and his name is Dempsey yes. Dempsey. Dempsey Okay here's play the clip this is the future of the military play Dempsey in the App Store We call it will deepen collaboration across the services and mission areas. It will also be more secure, helping ensure that the integrity of our battle systems prevail in the face of disruption. Well he has one of those hissing S's that is really annoying

2:36:51 As part of this new joint information environment, we're building a secure 4G wireless network that will get iPads, iPhones and Android devices online in 2014. In fact I have here today with me a secure mobile phone and data processor. A data processor? Ooh, what is that? Can I get me a data processor? That allows me... iPhone. Oh! That's an iPhone. Sorry. You don't have an iPhone. Wait in the shipper and... Wait a minute he said data processor and he's holding up an iPhone Yeah, he's holding up an iPhone.

2:37:44 Wow! Gee, wow. Oh theater of the mind I did have to keep an eye on Peter as he stood up here glancing at it enviously With tools like this the smartphone generation joining our military will help us pioneer a new era of mobile command and control This revolution will empower our greatest resource that is the ingenuity of our people And the philosophy of mission command that we all embrace to help unleash the potential for user-driven innovation a federated app store will allow any DoD user to write and share phone and tablet applications by using off the shelf technology. I like this, this is fantastic! This is... it's like he went to the buzzword generator and is just spewing crap out

2:38:33 They're gonna have an app store and the command & control is going to be on an iPhone. They're gonna go, let's see... Let me dial up... Wait a minute! Do you know the General's number? We don't even know that. What about the Commander's number? You have his number? Hold on I want to go back he has something here... It's on your phone! Be quiet for second! Allow any DOD... He said something here that does not exist. I wanna hear it. DOD user to write and share phone and tablet applications by using off-the-shelf technology... Now, hold on. Hold on. This is someone this is a PowerPoint someone sold him a bag of goods. Paul Embrace to help unleash the potential for user driven innovation a federated app store okay a federated app store Is he telling me now that Apple's apps and Android apps will be in a federated App Store together? Is he seriously saying this? Yeah! That's what he's saying

2:39:28 I think you're exactly right. He's got a PowerPoint presentation, the same thing he did with the cloud! Yeah... He's all in on the cloud, oh we're gonna save money because of the cloud. I want to hear more about this military. The high-performance data processor in the Federated App Store will allow any DoD user to write and share phone and tablet applications Wow like ummm....I don't know words with friends By using off-the-shelf technology, we're bringing the full force of the technology revolution into the classified environment. So what's an important next step? Let me talk about cyber legislation and diplomacy. Although we've made significant progress embracing cyber within the military our nation's effort to protect our critical civilian infrastructure is lagging

2:40:21 Too few companies have invested adequately in cyber security. I worry that adversaries will seek to exploit that chink in our nation's- Hey, who you calling chink? WHOA! Who is he calling ch... hey, hey, that's not okay Dempsey To them our economy and our infrastructure are the softer targets He literally.. wait a minute He says chink and then he says to them, in our nation's armor. Let me listen that-that's outrageous! He just called the Chinese chinks. Few companies have invested adequately in cyber security I worry that adversaries will seek to exploit that chink in our nation's armor To them our economy... That chink! Hey, to THEM? The chinks and our infrastructure are the softer targets than our military Wow wow

2:41:17 you know what? You know what, it doesn't happen often but I'm going to give this to ya. Double shot! Yeah! To hear the boss of the entire armed forces talk about a federated app store so that users of the DoD by the way i consider myself as an american citizen to be a user of the DoD Can now use Android and iPhone data processing apps cross-platform at any moment in the day So that the chinks can't get to us is clip of the day worthy John. I'm sorry, it's good It's valid okay well take it. I'm not gonna refuse it Val let's play Let's play Dempsey Describing the importance of this new cyber command and how its going become a very important part of the military They should spin it off thing the nation from cyber attacks

2:42:16 To do this, we're integrating the cyber mission across the force and we're adding personnel to United States Cyber Command. Over the next four years 4,000 cyber operators will join their ranks We are also investing 23 billion dollars in cybersecurity. And we are doing all of this not... How much? How much?! How much!? How much? 23 billion Billion? We should be able to get at least half a billion of that. Just for coming up with better... Can we, I mean can't you at least let us write your PowerPoints man! We can do something the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group is good. We're good. 23 billion for what?! For a federated app store security

2:43:03 and we're doing all this not to address run-of-the-mill cyber intrusions but to stop potential attacks of significant consequence. Okay, what is a run over the mill cyber intrusion? What is that? Thank you, no one knows Those that could threaten life limb and the country's core critical infrastructure So it's run at the mill unless it threatens life limb or the critical infrastructure. So a limb is a finger? Or is that, as limb only arms and legs? To me it's arms and legs Right okay so if it threatens an arm anywhere then its critical Yeah you have to up the ante on... Command three kinds of teams will operate around-the-clock National mission teams will counter adversary cyber attacks on our country

2:43:58 A second and larger set of teams will support our combatant commanders as they execute our military missions around the globe. And the largest set of teams will operate and defend the networks that support our military operations worldwide These three teams constitute the cyber force that will defend our networks, defend military forces, and be prepared if asked to defend the nation." What does that mean? It means they're spending a bunch of money. Attention! And they've got the public buffaloed, what are they talking about? You've been called to task to defend the nation because the chinks are coming to get us on the networks Just turn the computer off

2:44:44 Yeah, turn the computer off. Just turn it off man. Well let me finish this This is good John our most immediate priority say where was this? What was the occasion of this incredible Snow job of a bull crap lying money stealing grubbing leprechaun jumping shite fest I believe this was at Brookings. He's keeping the dot mil domain secure. Oh, the dot mil domain has to be... he doesn't even know what he is talking about! To say that... you're just dumb! Must secure the dot mil domain. Dot mil has to be secured? Hello? Hello we are calling you to task. The dot mil domain is under attack

2:45:30 But in the event of a domestic cyber crisis, our Cyber Forces will work in support of the Department Of Homeland Security and the FBI who lead our nation's response in the .gov and the dot com domains. Oh! They're out there protecting us John? In case the dot com domain is under attack... Yeah. The Cyber Command, the 23 billion dollar firewall will be there to ensure this force is able to operate at network speed. Network Speed? What does that mean? What is network speed, is that 20 megabits? It's different than swivel chair speed. Rather than what is often called swivel chair speed... Oh my god write that down title! Title we now have a playbook for cyber the president signed a directive Does he even know that when you talk to someone and say let's go cyber it means cybersexing and he did does He know that when he says we have a playbook for cyber

2:46:29 Maybe he does. Maybe this is all coded messages. It may be! Codifies how each part of the government will respond in the event of a serious cyber attack under this directive, The Department of Defense has developed emergency procedures to guide our response to imminent significant cyber threats We're updating our rules of engagement The first update for cyber in seven years by the way and we're improving command and control of our cyber forces We have more work to do, but these important steps significantly strengthen our ability to defend the nation at network speed. You should be court-martialed! In fact I call for a citizen court martial Can i do that? Is there a citizen court martial can we do that? Can you believe that this is taking place while all of the news reporting is on some guy who showed his passport and he's now in Russia

2:47:30 he's in Russia and this is, this... And by the way didn't he just give away all the secrets? Didn't he just tell the enemy. Did you not aid the enemy by telling the enemy that we'll be working at network speed I mean if i were a hack I'm like oh okay it's network speed okay and he told them we're gonna have a federated app store! That is treasonous It's ridiculous. This... You know, if anybody thinks that these guys by the way these generals four-star generals they don't you think they're surfing the internet? They have secretaries for everything! Get my coffee get my jacket get my appointment calendar send a note do this to that scratch my balls nobody has no idea what he is talking about Hey okay here's an idea I've got a great idea

2:48:27 Sysadmins, Lamp, PHP Ruby on Rails all you guys out there and you're in our audience. You're in our audience put together a package okay and call it the Network Speed Control-and-Command Cyber Defense Force Package In A Suitcase And we'll write the PowerPoint and we'll go make 500 million dollars We can sell this! This is dumb This is so dumb. Yeah, we'll cut you guys in. Everyone can contribute to this project. We just gotta start a project on GitHub and make it installable whatever it is

2:49:14 Make it an app-ify it, game-ify it systemography it. Game-ify it? Yeah We should write this PowerPoint John we can do this We feel that by gamifying the federated App Store of Android and iPhone data processors The control and command of the network speed not swivel chair speed will be able to protect the critical infrastructure Which will protect life limb and critical infrastructure dot com hookers We should do this. That's about right Except for the hooker part. We should! We could walk from this job if we got one of these contracts and we could do the same amount of bullcrap than anyone else can, we could write code Why don't we... 10 print equals 20 go to ten

2:50:07 I got a lot of stuff that we're gonna do then um, we're just gonna have to keep and carry over for Sunday show. I've added a big Adam's email segment What? Did you want to close up with something? I wanted to say something, it's important. Before you kill the show...I just want you put this in your mind You're going to have to buy at the duty free store, I'm gonna give a little lecture here The duty free store buy at least one maybe couple of Chanel number fives Okay why

2:50:43 Well, it looks like your buddies in the EU they're gonna ban one of the substances that's in Chanel number five. And is that fetus water? Something that's gonna kill ya apparently if you've been using Chanel number five You're probably close to your deathbed. I have too but...I gotta cut back So, they're gonna ban it. You wanna get a couple bottles or bottle or something but get the perfume and then just save it and then you... It'll be a great gift to some Chanel number five person sometime in the future when that way doesn't smell the same And just for reminder for people out there In Europe formulations for this perfumes are better ones

2:51:20 all use ethanol as the base alcohol whereas in perfume there shouldn't be any alcohol at all but in the eau de toilette and the rest it's all used ethanol. In the United States, that is against the law because apparently they're afraid that kids will know there's ethanol in their so they'll spend a hundred fifty dollars for bottle of perfume and then drink it So we use denatured alcohol which will make you sick but also changes the smell so you always want to buy your perfumes in Europe Another handy travel tip from the no agenda show Wow, you're a travel book that will be in the train the travel website. That's right Okay, so yeah there's tons of stuff that is still left over I really do have some great Adams email We just didn't get to today we're already almost three hours in please everybody after The live stream stick around those who are recording backups wait until I give the off make sure we have a recording and And also, I've got some

2:52:20 I think some pretty good information on what's happening with the Clintons for Sunday show. So please support us, Dvorak.org slash NA We are putting the work in we hope you appreciate the value. I don't think you're getting much of this anywhere else? I certainly haven't found it because if it was and I'm any of it yeah, I'm getting from you You're getting it from me. Yeah, you're nailing it buddy. It's a little stuff about Marx Yeah, that guy. Coming to you from the fourth floor right above the second-hand bookstore in the heart of Amsterdam Gitmo Nation Lowlands in the morning I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain and it's still overcast I'm John C Dvorak we'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda