9/11 Generation

00:00 Uh-oh. Let me see if I have any in the cupboard... Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah It's Sunday May 26th 2013 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 516 This is no agenda Assessing with near certainty it is feasible to capture me at anytime Here in the Travis Heights hideout In Austin Texas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, why am i shouting? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's to keep up with the Joneses is why you're shouting. I can do that. Can you raise your level? Let me see if this chair has a little thing at the bottom Yeah and maybe turn off the microphone while you're at it Okay. It's the weirdest thing! The whole song throughout the whole Cinco de Mayo... Fabish

00:55 Everything's great, and then we're gonna start the show and then you do like I know that's because somebody switches something here right? He's ready to start. Yeah, it's about now Adam hurry really is that how I'm coming through for you today. No no use your fine good your ten dog biscuits over nine Roger Roger Well, well we had not barely even were we able to wrap up the last episode of the best podcast in the universe Or already the distraction of the week kicked in which one? Medea Benjamin

01:41 I don't know that one. I was following other distractions! You're distracted by other distractions? Medea Benjamin is the co-founder of Code Pink, John Oh the code pink people yes oh man we had some code pink people in the Berkeley in our Albany area and they had a big truck says code pink get you know what code pink stems from Lesbians gays no code pink stemmed the original reason for code pink was for George W Bush Give him the pink slip means fire or impeach bush. Oh, that's right again because he started with the code orange Code red etc the whole code code pink and there was pink meant pink slip right now I do remember this well

02:28 Well, so I looked into the organization because now it's like... So the woman who interrupted the president three times an unprecedented three times. She was Code Pinker? She is the co-founder of Code Pink that is Medea Benjamin. Oh well that's great! I admire them now I admire them too, although this is clearly a co-opted operation. And i'm pretty sure that not only it's just obvious... the proof is in the pudding So for those of you who missed it, everyone saw at least one snippet somewhere around Gitmo Nation Of the president laying out his drone policy which falls under counter terrorism measures Which I have of course assessed for you

03:17 The more things to change, the more things change the more they stay the same for sure in this case. But she was saying of course things that make sense and I'm pretty sure the president was aware something was going to happen maybe not this year...I think actually he was at some point. I love watching Miss Mickey because she has completely...she's not as biased as I am. And I said well take a look at this video and you tell me what you think And her response was, oh my god he actually was moved for a moment there by what she was saying. Even though he immediately said that he didn't agree with her But I have two clips here because she immediately was making the rounds yet another

04:03 I would say a clue that this was premeditated by someone. And of course, if you want to lay out a policy that is exactly the same as it's always been and you're going to do this in a bombastic speech and you have all kinds of other things going on it is great to get the media not to be distracted by someone who was talking back to the king And here's what happened on CNN, where I got a lot of respect for Ms. Benjamin because we have CarolCNN... What is it? Facebook.com slash carolcnn. I can't remember her name other than that she says it all the time

04:43 And she feels that this was completely wrong and the president was already going down that road. He's already going to give into everything she wanted but of course because of the interruption, I guess he changed his mind or something? But her comeback is pretty strong in this bit. Let me ask you this again... It sounded to me like the president was going down that road anyway He was giving this very important policy speech that frankly Americans needed to hear So again, you know I asked I post a question on my Facebook page which is what I do every single morning and ask them what

05:24 they wanted to ask you and a lot of them said that you were hurting your own cause because one, you appeared rude to the president of the United States and two... You just seemed ummm.... A little crazy. CRAZY! So this is the 100,000 people who watch CNN still and they're trying everything. This is apparently the narrative that they have like you're crazy and it's rude to interrupt the president her comeback I have to say was good well I've gotten a fabulous response and I think killing innocent people with drones is rude I think keeping people who are innocent in indefinite detention for 11 years is rude

06:08 respecting the lives of Muslim people is rude. I think not apologizing to the families of innocent people who were killed is rude, there are a lot of rude things about our policies speaking out it's actually not rude but its the basis of a democratic society where people use their voices to try and make our country better in our policy more aligned with the rule of law. I don't think many Americans would disagree with you but I would think that some Americans at least would say theres a time and place Well, exactly. I've been waiting for over five years when the president said he was going to close Guantanamo The time for words is over it's time for action He is the commander in chief and can do this on his own So I thought that was pretty good! Yeah right on girl Now...I kind of think she's sincere It feels like it but

06:59 Well, you know first of all... Let me finish this second clip and then we can get into your thoughts about this. I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying but go on just play the second clip and then oh! Okay so the question is of course she is the co-founder of Code Pink she's very well known how does she get into Oh yeah it's obvious it says she's planted Thank You And it comes out when she's on Democracy Now who of course Pose the question, but there's no follow-up which makes it so obvious. Oops sorry that's a wrong one. Anything but her. Oh man what happened to my clip? It was my freaking setup! No don't tell me I blew this... oh here it is gosh damn

07:50 Almost. Okay, I'm so sorry about that here we go here it is Repeatedly interrupted President Obama's speech Thursday in an exchange that ended with him saying quote the voice of that woman is worth paying attention to Medea Benjamin welcome to Democracy Now! That's what he said Talk about what happened yesterday First of all how did you get into the National Defense University for this address? I would assume your face as one of the most famous on Capitol Hill There are some secrets, Amy that can't be disclosed. Please! This is like saying I could be a terrorist or have a zip gun... Apparently anyone can just walk in within shouting distance of the president and it's no big deal and of course Amy Goodman says But it was great to get in there And you know President Obama when I just listened to that segment he said nothing He said that I wasn't listening

08:47 I was hanging on every single word and i really expected to hear some major policy changes. And, I didn't know whether I was going to speak up or not if he had said something like to show my commitment to Guantanamo. She goes on kind of saying the same thing so there is no...And Amy Goodman says nothing? Nothing at all now there's some other dude on Democracy Now and he is... That Gonzalez guy. Is that Juan Gonzalez, I think? Something. Yeah so and he knows of this that she was planted. I think on the CNN interview I didn't clip that she even says she got an invite to come it's obvious that they did this was a setup whether she's complicit or not. It's like when I went to see Led Zeppelin! I've told his story before. Hit me

09:35 Oh, okay. So I'm working a summer job in Led Zeppelin first time to come into town first time in the Bay Area. I go see them And I just thought this was the best band. I have ever seen but in one segment of the song there was this long pregnant pause where they're ready to rip into one of their little Crescendos and and just as we're waiting and waiting somebody in the back left-hand corner of the audience screams at the top of their lungs Perfectly it's almost like a cue when the band hits it oh and it just brings the house down. Right And I thought this was a little, wow that guy...wow! So then another guy went to see the band next night and we were in the lunchroom and out of the blue said you know when they were doing this song and there's guys screamed at the top of his lungs did you have a guy scream at the top of his lungs in back corner? He says yeah! Yeah exactly! Right Oh shills It is called show business

10:34 That's what it is, it's show business. And we know politics is just show business for ugly people. And so whenever I say, you know we're in Travis Heights and someone says hey have you seen Robert Plant? No it's a hoax he doesn't live here. It was like an Austin hoax everyone is like yeah Robert Plant lives here no he doesn't! You know that's another good bit that always cracks me up there are some celebrities who have these hoax places where they supposedly live yeah it gets the local sales up and It's like Sandra Bullock you know she oh she lives here. No, no she doesn't I've never seen her here Yeah, it was like Oh yes, sorry. I bumped into her at the at the HED

11:27 No! This is... Actually, if there's any superstar celebrities like a Sandra Bullock actually living there and not visiting her mom once in awhile they would be at the farmers market. Yes of course they would be so this is it I think she does she may have a house here but even that on us are sure I am but anyway Robert Plant thing is a funny hoax because this has been going on for months now Oh, I hear Robert Plant lives over there no he doesn't There's no house and no one knows exactly where it is hidden. So Juan Gonzales or whoever it is, he knows that this is a setup but I think he's embarrassed maybe because its his job to ask the tough questions because he is stuttering through the question like he should not be on television

12:16 basically saying, how is it possible that they allowed you to interrupt the president not once not twice but three times? Having watched interruptions of presidents over many decades I was struck by the fact that you got to interrupt him three different times in that speech. I'm wondering, did you get a sense... usually after the first or maybe the second time the Secret Service would move in to drag people away. But did you get a sense that maybe to some degree his people didn't mind the interruptions? Yes! Thank you Juan! To the degree that he was then able to show that he is confronting opposition on the left to his policies?

13:01 Yes Juan, I give five points to Mr. Gonzalez you stuttered through it but i think you nailed it no not at all that's not the way it went down Juan what you didn't see is what was happening behind the scenes oh now she's going to tell me all this stuff that happened behind the scenes behind the scenes John where they act when you know off stage left The stage managers were prepping. You will regret this if you do it and they were really confused about what to do. Yeah Bullshit I'm calling that on her, that's not true! We're not saying this there was no scuffle going on And this was not a huge auditorium So yeah, so show business people set up well done good job and what is it all about? It's about the presidential directive

14:14 We don't even have the actual text of the Presidential Directive, the PPD. We do have the fact sheet! That's all we get. See? We're citizens. We don't get to read the actual documents so that we can dissect the legal basis. No, we get a fact sheet Did you want to say something before we move on to the fact sheet? No, let's move on. Fact Sheet! US policy standards and procedures for the use of force in counterterrorism operations outside the United States in areas of active hostilities Okay here we go So this is about when to use lethal force It doesn't even specifically say drones so... The president- Actually we should kind of

15:03 We should play these two quick clips from his speech. Here is the president, because you know that kind of got snowed under which was the obvious point here he is on Anwar al-Awlaki who as we know was droned and his and the President's reasoning for it being okay I would have detained and prosecuted Awlaki if we captured him before he carried out a plot but we couldn't Wait, stop. Hey yeah when did he ever carry out a plot? He was an inspiration for others to carry out plots he never did anything do you know of anything that he did well he bombed someone did each did he shoot someone didn't even IED did he do anything well the president actually has some reasoning behind that what that means let me finish this ten seconds but we couldn't

16:06 And as president, I would have been derelict in my duty had I not authorized the strike that took him out. Take him out baby! Yeah, he did. He said took him out. Let me see Okay Roll it up again You said I will be derelict in my duty if I had not if I did not let's listen to you I would have detained and prosecuted a locky If we captured him before he carried out a plot but we couldn't and as president I would have been derelict in my duty Had I not authorized the strike

16:49 It took him out. The strike that took him out? That took him out! Yeah, I didn't hear that part... Okay so here is the reasoning behind it and it seems fair But when a US citizen goes abroad to wage war against America and is actively plotting to kill U.S citizens And when neither the United States nor our partners are in a position to capture him before he carries out a plot, his citizenship should no more serve as a shield than a sniper shooting down on an innocent crowd should be protected from a SWAT team.

17:27 Let me get this straight. So if you're plotting, and I think the definition of plotting means that you're...I guess your uh... You're hunkered down in the sand and your drawing figures with a stick Like okay here's what we do heres the plan Im over here ya see? And we've got the American citizens over there! And were gonna go over there and kill em with this uhh idk but were gonna kill them and this is my plot So a plot, even if I'm talking to other people about it. It does not warrant the death penalty but okay. That's who Anwar al-Awlaki was he was continuously trying to kill people No he wasn't! He was continuously plotting to kill people and the president just likened that to a sniper shooting at people

18:20 Which is not the same thing, I'm sorry. It's just not... it's not the same thing! And the fact that people lapped this up is amazing Well, I think people don't listen because this is why you have a distraction like that because oh! Oh what? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? who is very vocal about this and he was on the Mad Cow show, which I thought was good because she's... She starts off this whole piece like showing printers that are gonna blow up. Like all these printers were all set there! It's all Anwar Al-Awlaki! He's trying to kill people with his printers! Awlaki died 600 days ago His case has been litigated posthumously through leaks from the administration

19:08 I'm willing to concede maybe everything they say is true about Anwar al-Awlaki. For me it's not about who Anwar al-Awlaki is, its about who are we as a society? How we treat the most reprehensible of our citizens says a lot about who we are so if we had that evidence against him what was so dangerous that we couldn't seek an indictment and uphold the rule of law? And I should say almost no one ever talks about this The first time that we know that US tried to kill Anwar al-Awlaki was before the underwear bomb plot before any of the allegations that President Obama made today. They tried to kill Andar Arlaky on December 24th, 2009 This is before any of this had taken place for any of the things in the Attorney General's letter Oh interesting! Well it's good that we know that

19:46 So now let's go to the policy document, not the actual policy document of course because we're not allowed to have that. It may show up in the Federal Register but I haven't seen it yet so here are the facts... Standards for the use of lethal force any decision to use force abroad even when our adversaries are terrorists dedicated to killing American citizens is a significant one Lethal force will not be proposed or pursued as punishment or a substitute for prosecuting a terrorist suspect in a civilian court or military commission. Talk is cheap. Lethal force will be used only to prevent or stop attacks against US persons and even then, only when capture is not feasible and no other reasonable alternatives exist to address the threat effectively." So already they are now contradicting their own policy because it says lethal force will only be proposed

20:47 To prevent or stop attacks, but not the plotting of an attack. Okay I guess it's all interpretation in particular lethal force will be used outside areas of active hostilities only when the following Pre-conditions are met you might want to write this down John I'm writing. First, there must be a legal basis for using lethal force whether it is against a senior operational leader of a terrorist organization or the forces that organizing is using or intends to use to conduct terrorist attacks so if someone intends to use me to conduct a terrorist attack

21:41 That is number one on the list that can be taken out. Even if I don't even know it! Yeah, they could be listening to No Agenda Show and saying you know what Adam? I think we can use him... ...to do a terrorist attack and then you can be killed And by the way, the word feasible is used, I think words matter The definition of feasible is Do you know what that is John? Yeah, it means it's possible to do it and I think it implies easy. Yes! Very good! The definition is possible to do it easily or conveniently. It's so fucking crazy

22:22 It's not convenient to go capture him. Means we have to go over there! That's not convenient? Let's kill him. No, it is not convenient at all. Second the United States will use lethal force only against a target that poses a continuing imminent threat to US persons. It is simply not the case that all terrorists pose a continuing imminent threat to U.S. persons I'm not quite sure why they put that in there and i'm not sure what the... Well, we've been through the whole definition of imminent right? We've talked about this. They've already redefined what imminent means so imminent is open to legal interpretation which is what all these guys are! All these people are lawyers Third, the following criteria must be met before lethal action may be taken Now we get down to the nitty-gritty Near certainty that the terrorist target is present

23:15 So you can't take lethal action unless you are near certain. Near certain? Near certainty is the... What does that mean? Is certain even 100%? Certain isn't even positive, is it? What is certain? Well, it means for sure Really? Pretty much Let's check it out just to make sure And near-certain would be eh maybe Certain known for sure established beyond doubt Okay, so that would be almost Almost sure why can't it just be certain near certainty? That non combatants will not be injured or killed. So that hasn't worked out Well nearly no we haven't killed all of them. No we have a kill the entire population But here's another favorite you also need an assessment

24:15 that capture is not feasible at the time of the operation. Now I like this because... Oh, well they can do that! Okay here's the deal. So you get your ala WakaWaka in his little jeep? Let me try it on you. Major John Dvorak have you assessed if we can capture this ala Wakadude Do we have him on the drone monitor? Yes, and... Are there any nearby soldiers right by him at the moment? Looks like I'm pretty sure there aren't. Fire! Wait you have to assess the capture. I did so it's one thing to say an assessment is another thing to say a an assessment

25:03 A positive proof, positive beyond a reasonable near certainty doubt assessment. Just an assessment is just that! It's just like oh I assessed it? Doesn't even say whether... An assessment whether is crazy! Here, assessment. The evaluation or estimation of the nature quality or ability of someone or something So it just means the evaluation. I just did, in our little play, The Curry-Dvorak Playhouse we did the assessment exactly the way it would be done Well there's another assessment An assessment that the relevant governmental authorities in a country where action is contemplated cannot or will not effectively address the threat to U.S persons

25:56 Right. And while we're at it, an assessment that no other reasonable alternatives exist to effectively address the threat to US persons The guy was in a Jeep heading to the USA for all we know He was heading west! He was heading west and thats toward us That's my assessment right there Can we put up a roadblock? That would be a reasonable alternative I think No. Well, yeah but those locals they don't care They think we're full of crap And so just a couple more points here Finally, whenever the United States uses force in foreign territories... Now this is what's interesting. International legal principles including respect for sovereignty and the law of armed conflict impose important constraints on the ability of the United States to act unilaterally and on the way in which the United States can use force The United States respects national sovereignty and international law How about our constitution a-holes?

27:00 There's no mention of that. No, why would there be? That is just crazy! Okay so who does these assessments as we just did in our little... actually we weren't far off but I think actually we were kind of far off because i went to Major General Dvorak but apparently it can just include the deputies and heads of key departments and agencies and they will consider proposals to make sure that our policy standards are met, and attorneys including the senior lawyers of key departments and agencies will review and determine the legality of the proposals. So here's some douchebag who passed the bar who speaks a different language uh... and can charge money for it was going to determine oh yeah looks good

27:51 And it's not... It looks good. But it's deputies! Deputies and heads of key departments and agencies What, like some assistant to the head of... Interns? Yeah, interns Do I get a pick?! And get me some coffee while you're at it Choose- Hey take a look at this what do you think This guy look guilty to you? Yeah Give me some coffee Okay This is insane and this is what no one talked about. Why bother? Anyway, so then there's one little footnote here about non-combatants who of course we have to with near certainty try to avoid killing them after an assessment by the interns Non combatants are individuals who may not be made the object of attack under applicable international law Aha! The term non combatant... it's just obvious that we...

28:51 I've always stayed away from jokes about lawyers because yeah, i've used a lot of them and it's just kind of the way it is. If someone studies law you know why would be a dick about it? It's just what it is and some people choose certain professions But this has, it has gone too far from when you know the whole idea of we're a nation of laws. It's just become insane because in the legal profession you can twist and turn everything and this is exactly what's happening The term non-combatant does not include an individual who was part of a belligerent party to an armed conflict

29:32 An individual who is taking a direct part in hostilities, okay. Or an individual who is targetable in the exercise of national self-defense? What?! So that means anybody! Apparently... I mean, I can read and I'm not a lawyer didn't go to law school but I can read it I'm not letting anyone get slip this by Of course this isn't even the official document, it's just a fact sheet. You can imagine the official document must be a beauty! I'm salivating! I want this thing but i think presidential directives aren't necessarily released to the public are they?

30:13 I think they're only... We've seen some of them. I don't know that, uh... Hmm? I don't know what the process is with a directive Yeah You know what the orders are we see no's those get released No but I thought the directive was under an order Now a PPD is It is something else and I think it go it can go to select committees in Congress its secret stuff you know Not necessarily too..no I'm pretty sure... I don't think it is. Presidential Directive, yeah. Oh! There's Robert Plant's address, interesting. Right around the corner! I'm gonna go up there and say hey dude you had a plant in your show oh i'm sorry that's your last name very funny A form of executive order issued by the president with advice consented to the National Security Council directives

31:05 Oh, here we go. Since many of the presidential directors pertain to national security many remain classified. I see that told you as bull crap it really is classified why even give us anything including the summary the fact sheet well really doesn't matter it just really doesn't matter because the whole thing was interrupted by the lady and then the lady gets all the press and now meanwhile while no one's looking A rocket launch this evening is expected to boost the US military's capacity for communications.

31:47 We have liftoff. The United... The single satellite on the rocket has as much bandwidth as a whole fleet of previous generation satellites, the increased capacity will be used by the army and in part it will help American pilots and soldiers hunt terrorists using unmanned drones. Naturally! That's right we're hunting a terrorist hunter. It should just be Adam Curry John C Dvorak Terrorist Hunters Yeah, we might get some funding. So I'm talking about drones... yeah so Rand Paul was up in New Hampshire giving a speech to the Republicans and you tell me that somebody's..I don't know is it me or are they lifting our material? Not sure. So about a month ago i got in the car to go to work and I thought on the way in that I wanted to say something about drones

32:43 I'd been asking the question for a while, and so I got up and spoke for 13 hours. And I went to CPAC the next week and I'm talking with a lot of young people one kid yells out he summarizes my speech in three words He says don't drone me bro So this of course was definitely originated on the No Agenda show and I was carrying a sign with Don't Drone Me Bro three years ago. At Occupy LA before that got co-opted right and you actually got a couple of pictures of yourself, but by the way I do want to mention something don't drone me bro is four words not three Congratulations John you win this round. That's correct Don't drone me bro

33:40 Wow, man that is kind of... Yeah I... That's kinda sad. It's bad. But you remember the way it went? Uhh..I think i have the clip when he said that. Drawing me bro let me see. I think that umm Rand Paul was saying I said to the president four words and that's when clearly a no agenda producer in the audience yelled out don't drill me bro So he doesn't he doesn't even remember his own setup. I don't think I have it anymore Yeah, I remember that too. That was a seat yeah from the CPAC speech we picked it up Yeah, yeah, but he's using it down on the stump. Yeah of course Don't trust him. No you know I don't trust anybody except for you And then that's only marginally

34:30 Hey, do you have your uh- did you pack your bag? Is your tooth- You got a toothbrush and everything ready to go?" What? To come here. When? Like... I thought you were flying out tonight! Why?! Well Mickey's leaving for Europe for 10 days. Ohhhh! Partay bitches!! And you're bringing the hookers in! Yeah! There's everything! Texas hookers are the best. Yeah Are you speaking on experience? No no it does a survey. Really? Yeah Apparently, I had this in the show notes on Thursday. In Greece prostitution is up 150%. I wonder why? Prices are down 150% There's a good side to everything

35:16 Actually the story and you can find in the show notes for the previous show. It's pretty sad really I mean there that hookers are going for like five and ten euros oh my god Yeah, yeah, well that'll bring the tourist trade up yes. I mean but by the way Hello Euro land how are you guys doing? Awesome let's take a look Anti-Muslim sentiment appears to be on the rise in England after Wednesday's gruesome murder of a British soldier in London. Newcastle police estimate that protests by far right group drew about 1,500 people several times more than expected The demonstration was originally planned to protest the creation of an Islamic school in England but the focus changed after Soldier Lee Rigby was brutally killed in London by two men who claimed to be acting in revenge for British wars in Muslim countries

36:07 Another attack on a man in uniform has much of Europe on edge tonight as well. A French soldier was stabbed in the neck while on patrol, In a busy commercial district west of Paris Police think the attack could be linked to Rigby's killing in London and back to that case UK police arrested three men today for conspiracy to commit murder London has put more than 1,000 extra officers on patrol in light of these attacks And authorities have stepped up security in some major cities here in the US That's right! It's called the strategy of tension, also known as Gladio Plan B. And this thing in London, did you look at any of this John? This so called... I talked about it a little bit on the last show. Yeah but I've really gone over there's many different angles. Before you go into that i want to mention what was a French soldier doing on patrol and apparently a shopping mall or whatever. What does that mean? Oh man! The French soldiers are wandering around on patrol? Yes! With lots of police?! No the French have had

37:09 Boots on the ground for a long time now. They're everywhere! I think it even predates the election. Oh yeah, pfft... There was one of the guys who was running for president when they had their elections And it's unfortunate, my French is just not good enough to get the nuances and I watched like three hours of YouTube video. There was this whole presentation of how France's constitution over the years has been substantially altered they have had amendments and changes...and i think i should remind everybody that the American constitutional system

37:55 the Republic, I would say is based on part of the French system. Correct? No, the French Constitution came far after ours by but they idea the idea of a republic. Oh yeah. The Republic may be French in origin from French French philosophies not from anything that actually not for anything legal but what you're seeing is that the French and we had a French guy over the other day They don't mess around, first of all. They get very uptight when things are not going the way the people want it but the actual power of and this is what's new for them The power of the people running the show has been removed because that power is no longer in hands of the French president It is all now in Brussels All of it So lawlessness is ensuing I might want to point out that Stockholm is burning

38:52 burning to the ground. It's been on fire now for a week and that's just weird but we've never, nobody is reporting on it. Well there is some reporting but I mean its not like well... The New York Times right here, the Sunday Times Well, you know what? Maybe the NBC Today show had some news. Now thanks to Time Magazine we have proof that even the commander-in-chief once donned the white dinner jacket There he is! That 17 year old Barry Obama as he was called at the time At his senior prom in Hawaii that was in 79 President Obama's classmate Kelly Allman released the pictures to Time Complete With the president's yearbook inscription To her calling her quote

39:37 extremely sweet and foxy. Yeah, that's the news people! That's what's important to know Barry! How come we don't call him Barry? Barry. Where does this Barack come from? So he can sell that book of his, where on the cover of the book it says he was born in Kenya. But here's what is interesting about this London thing... It immediately has moved a whole bunch of things into action which I'm convinced was set up even more so when we learn that this guy who

40:17 You know who chopped up a body and there was no blood he you know his hands were colorized on the video There's some photo. There's some videography graphic evidence of this now That if you there's an original video that you can see, and then the video where his hands And it's not dripping with blood its colorized It's almost like this is it's a wonderful life in this guide and by the way He's just talking to the camera I mean what is this people just walking around? There's no head separated from the body, there is no blood flowing anywhere. There are no blood stains left after the fact. The whole thing is incredibly sketchy and then it turns out that the Secret Service has tried to recruit him as a spy and then the guy who was telling this on BBC News Night got arrested!

41:04 It's already known that Michael Adebolajo, one of the two suspects was known to the security services. But what has emerged now is an allegation that MI5 tried to recruit him as a spy In an interview with BBC Newsnight programme One of his childhood friends Abu Nusayba says Michael Adebolajo was approached by them around six months ago after trip to Kenya where he claimed he'd been arrested and attacked He mentioned that they wanted, initially they wanted to ask him whether he knew certain individuals basically. That was the initial issue but after him saying that he didn't know these individuals and so forth what he said is they asked if he would be interested in working for them. He was explicit in that you know he refused to work for them

41:51 The BBC doesn't have any way of verifying the claim after the interview Abu Nusaybah was arrested at the BBC in relation to suspected terrorism offenses. Yeah, I'll say! Hey you can't say that on television You're under arrest Wow You got one there. Isn't that amazing? That's unbelievable So they had approached the guy he says no I'm not really interested in doing that and then I guess they mind control him or whatever He'd end is like okay, I'll do this one play then okay And then he does it and then the end then his buddy goes hey man. That's weird and then is like whoops He's gone

42:35 And then, of course we have immediately the elites jump into play. There's you know, of course he had this big protest which changed overnight obviously so now I've got a real tension going on and when that happens then rules start to get implemented changes come here is I think Theresa May the Home Secretary who of course knows that it is obviously the Internet but can radicalize thousands of people People will wonder, is it really necessary to have new laws in order to stop people standing on the streets of Britain calling for the beheading of soldiers? Or is just that those laws are not being implemented. Well I think that the task force which is going to look across the whole government and I've talked about you about the prevent programme in Home Office we need to look across

43:25 institutions like universities, whether there's more work we can be doing in prisons. But yes we do need to look at the powers, we need to look at the laws, we need to look for example at the question of whether perhaps we need to have banning orders to ban organisations that don't meet the threshold for prescription We need to look at organizations outside government as well. I love that, the threshold for prescription whatever it means it's a show title. What government is doing across the various departments like the work of Ofcom for example these are issues that are being raised. Ofcom is the British FCC. So let me just be clear you're talking about in other words internet?

44:05 hate preaching or what's shown on television? What would you like the communications regulator to do? One of the issues we need to look at is whether we've got the right processes the right rules in place, in relation to what is being beamed into people's homes. What you're interested in Mrs Whitchurch? The No Agenda show has clearly been beamed into people's homes and it is an outrageous, outrageous programme. Can't that she used to talk about the oxygen of publicity? Yes Is your fear as Home Secretary that we, the broadcasters, that the internet service providers have provided hate if you like? Hate! The oxygen of publicity? Hate! There is no doubt

44:42 Could I have three ounces of hate from you, John? Oh! Let me see if i have any in the cupboard. People are able to watch things through the internet which can lead to radicalization What we do is, we have a referral unit which members of the public and organisations... A referral unit? ...are able to refer into that unit when they've got concern about what's being broadcast across the internet. Broadcast! This is so wrong on so many levels. Since that unit was set up in 2010 something like 5500-5700 separate pieces have been taken down off the internet. But you need to look at this... It's removed forever I tell ya

45:29 As I say, we need to see if we should be doing more. We need to see if there are additional steps that we should be taking to prevent radicalization. Yes! Prevent Radicalization When did this term... Radicalization? I mean, we've tracked it for many many years now But didn't we used to have like just different words for this kind of stuff Like... What were you using? I mean Radicalization Wasn't it just Trouble Maker Didn't we used to have different words for this I'm trying to think as you suggest this as a topic to think about. You know what, we're going have to look at old newspapers that aren't corrupted by pre-1970s.

46:24 Really? We'll keep it in the back of our minds. We'l figure it out. How about even pre 9-11 maybe, just... Maybe it really started then this whole idea of... I'd want to go be pre 80 at least because there was a... This stuff was beginning and we had a bunch of... Remember they Carlos the Jackal, we always had these terrors. No I don't remember him There's a bunch of them and they were in the news commonly but they didn't use it to clamp down on the public like they have now for some reason. How about... Wait a minute We had radicals, we had anarchists, we had communists, we had witches maybe? Witches The self-witchelization Okay

47:13 It's just that now, when you hear someone... and this is in the UK. And I'm sure our program will be cut off there first no doubt When it's like oh well clearly there is this beaming through the internet. There is beaming into your home! The self-radicalization tactics are being beamed These people had no clue when used to talk like that This internet, what a truly beautiful... Did you ever think John in your wildest dreams back when you were writing the Windows 95 telecommunications Bible?

47:54 Was that the one? That was your best, biggest best seller. Was that the one? It was the Dvorak's Guide to Telecommunications actually predates Windows 95. Was it Windows 3? It was done in the 80s Yeah I sold over a quarter million copies of that. Yeah no, that was...I remember that though And it came with diskettes did it not? Yes, it had one of those little 5 inch or time-striped three and half inch hard floppy. Did you at that point Because this is still the this is BBS time and Fido net did you think? Hey Listen I was I was around you serve yes all began with the source compu serve yep, and all that sort of remember What was it cupcake?

48:45 I don't remember Cupcake. We had the CB thing on CompuServe, which was basically the IRC chat room Right, the CB was called a CB simulator. That's right CB during the era of CB radio And so when you were doing you were chatting on CB simulator channels Yeah channels to like yeah different channels to go to yeah It's a CB simulator So that of course was already quite cool because it was like wow there's this network of modems and you could call into a local number which meant that this is kids come sit on my knee for a moment I got a story you won't believe it and uh it was great because you would call a local number and it would be free essentially, wouldn't cost anything

49:37 Because it was within your local exchange. This is how it used to work before cell phones, before everything cost money regardless... Before you were paying 50 cents for a text message! Yeah and you're paying when you get a call And then I had three lines at the house And I ran a BBS for awhile, and someone would dial in. They could be on your BBS and upload a file and leave a message... ...and then there would be a little timer in the corner that will count down how much time they had left before the modem would kick them off so someone else could dial-in But did you ever in your wildest dreams think that we'd get to this point where We're doing a show and there's tens of people listening

50:21 And you could sit in California and I'd be in Texas, we would be at this point. Did you ever really consider that back then? I should say yes but it's impossible. It's like when I was like in the 80s for example even though you knew the numbers and where things were headed...and it doesn't take a genius to see a trend in this industry but it still baffles me That I can go to Costco and pick up a 4 terabyte drive for 140 bucks. Yeah, you love the drive thing. The storage thing is your thing Well it's just like holy crap When i had my first hard disk it was 5 megabytes No mine was uh... I had a 10

51:14 I think a 10 megabyte, the big external SCSI drive. The SCSI drive with that big fucking connector on the back? That had clips so the plug wouldn't come undone! Hey shut up! You hear that? It's like some birds and crap out here. Shut up! I'm gonna show here So I guess what I'm saying is that when I hear this talk from the Home Secretary over there in Gitmo Nation East, They have no clue what they're talking about or what they're dealing with. They see it so linear, you know? It's just...they really don't understand and- Most of these people can't use a computer and you have to remember Janet Napolitano doesn't use email and I don't think she uses a computer at all! No, we know she has an iPad this has been confirmed Oh well okay, I guess an iPad counts for something

52:11 But you know the self-organization... Look at this. Oh look I can move it with my finger! She's doing words with friends, believe me so but the capability we have which we're not harnessing by the way Losers as human beings we'll come around I'm pretty hopeful that we're like, we're all waiting for some company to do it or some something you know some Bullcrap vent and all of this venture stuff. Well, I mean so we have this new thing in Austin It's called sidecar. You familiar with side car? Have you ever heard of this? It's not just in Austin. It's another places, you know side car Ring is a bell but you better I don't know okay So sidecars essentially it's the system. It's an app

52:59 And you as a private citizen can decide that you are going to be driving people around like a cab around town. Yeah, yeah no we have that here there's a number of just three or four these things in my country different brands and these things so sidecars interesting because it really is citizens themselves who then say decided become a driver and then you can look and see you know when you see where the the cars nearby and you can tap on it see that guy looks like a creep I don't want him picking me up so no you know you get you do select someone else this is by the way is a 40-year cycle again this is a modern version of what we used to have in the 70's which was hitchhiking right it's hitchhiking

53:38 Well, the hitchhiking was actually better. This is the problem because here we're all you know and now there's a company and the company is involved in middlemen It's like why can't we just figure that? The problem is we have bought into this keep beautiful system, it's a beautiful idea but there always has to be someone in the middle making money and that screws everything up every single time. And for some reason we've been programmed into not seeing that is not the way to go. We're like you know like this idiot who just keeps walking into the door like oh its closed, closed, closed... How many times are we gonna hit our head against this wall until we understand what we really have to do?

54:41 That sounds like drone talk to me. Hey, in the morning to you John C. Dvorak! Well in the morning to you Adam Currie and all of the boots on the ground out there feet in the water subs in the water ships on the water and all the days and nights out there Yeah and in the morning to our human resources in the chat room Noah Jenda stream dot com noahjendachat dot net nice everybody standing by And in the morning to the damn bird I mean they must be eating a dead squirrel or something outside my window Oh, Berger. I can't hear it so i don't think anyone's going to care but its atmosphere adds dimensionality to the podcast yeah okay great there you go It is a Sunday and Memorial Day weekend and we had pre-pleaded and I think for Memorial day weekend that we got some good little bit of support here I'm happy Yeah! You want to thank our producers? Yes please

55:42 Well, we do have a few including one Zachary Giesemann from Ellensburg Washington sent in $404 will become executive producer for show 516. I guess he's now an exclusive member of the 404 club? Yeah, which is anyway I could find any note from him so well. We'll wait it will upset apparently PayPal Evaluated his his donation for longer than usual 100 and what's 12 shows later he comes in yeah Philip Sanders in Ewing, New Jersey 333 33 is a pre donor for way too long pre donor for way too long yet That's also known as a boner. Please accept this check Is it possible to get some f cancer karma from my sister-in-law Karen and my lovely bride Mary who was taking care of her? Absolutely we love handing that out Karma absolutely

56:45 So, uh... Sir Sander Hoxbergen Bergen in Zandam Za-Zaandam! ZanDUM. ZaanDum. ZaaaanDum! There you go No wonder the Dutch are shouting at each other all the time 3333 just to support your show it is the best podcast in universe thank you guys best regards Thank You sir Sander Robert Clemens in Utrecht 33312, a very long letter I'll read some of it. John don't try you will say Utrecht no matter how hard you try to pronounce it correctly first-time donor aiming to be the second knighthood from this town. Only some dude somewhere in the university area has been first

57:37 Yeah, track him down from a self-radicalized student of some sort. I like to douche my friend taco Got me he listened to the no agenda show But he's still a virgin regards in regards to donating ah now He'll have to give a contribution to de douche himself listening to the show for several months Now I'm rapidly losing all belief in anything that comes from the traditional media especially struck by those black is white up is down etc theory this seems so true and having been a business executive myself for years now I know that it is the strategy we are using so often in corporate life if the CEO or another douche including myself says stuff like regarding to your jobs nothing will change then you'd better hide

58:21 Anyway, thank you for the S4 value. I hope that the PayPal process still works out please be so kind as to give me a shut up already it's science love the voice and nap for humanity. Shut Up Already! Science! Now if i can get this thing to scroll yeah isn't that and this is something that miss Mickey was doing spreadsheet for her for a show that she's doing in Amsterdam and I kind of get reminded that spreadsheets are great for certain things but when it comes to like what we're doing here and you know if you want to just scroll down and it's one big cell of information yeah boom it bounces together. You can't just get it to stop there must be a way to do that this is the Microsoft stuff now have I have it with open office too

59:19 Anyway, that will be our last executive producer. We do have some... Oh yeah, I think they stole the code. Snorkel in North Lakes Queensland. No, if you ever notice here's a couple of things. I remember this back in the days we talked about the CB simulator earlier. There was a couple of code anomalies that if you opened a window and then he did something then another one would open on top of it and you couldn't get... And it was exact same anomaly you'd find products from different companies exactly the same so somebody was using the same code base and I don't think they were sharing it on you know with any I don't think they were meant to be sharing it that was being stolen. Anyways snorkel in Lake North Lakes Queensland 233 33 B associate executive producer he has a very long note and I'll read part of it Albright and Josephine in a shout out to mademoiselle gazelle

1:00:13 AEP donation for show 516 referred to be credited to snorkel, which we did. PayPal didn't give me anywhere to put a note in. PayPal? Really? Paypal? PayPal. It's the holy transfer of money People didn't give me anywhere to put a note and hopefully this mail makes it in time. So rather than being yet another pre donor I intended opted to resolve my sleepless nights with some value for value Let me explain them quite stressed by the moment in addition to just getting by go to the state civil appeals tribunal here In the sunny state of Queensland in Australia on Monday after two years of chasing The guy that built my house with one simple aim To finally nail him to the wall to fix my leaking bathroom

1:00:59 Lay awake wondering how to resolve my sleepless stressed out night fretting over this the solution rather than spending this money I don't have on some plastic crap Why don't I secure some karma for the big day and get some AEP credits with a linkage of my page to boot? Who knows maybe even an EP credit along the way. The Sunday shows have been going well You didn't make it simply want to call out the builder as a douchebag And ask for a shot of tribal karma. Tribunal karma? Oh, I'm sorry tribunal karma. Absolutely! Here we go... You've got Karma Well we hope to get your leaky bathroom fixed. You never know

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1:02:16 You've got karma. Payful! And those are our executive and associate executive producers for show 516, they'll be noted in the show notes and we want to thank them and everyone else for contributing today's which is a slow day for us generally uh... and make sure you listen to Thursdays show this is show 516 go to noagendashow dot com noagenenation dot com dvork dot org slash n-a-n channel Dvorak dot Com slash na to hit the donate page and we appreciate all the help we can get yes And thank you of course to our artists who are always out there working hard for us It is lovely the amount of art. We've been able to choose from recently it's just been phenomenal which is great because we do have our slower days, and then we can always go back in and

1:02:59 and look if one of those are useful. So never put the episode number in it because we might be over. Yeah, don't put the episode number on your artwork because we can use it maybe in a future show when nothing good comes in which does happen! Thank you Joshua Pettigrew for the album art for Episode 515 as John said this is 516 and thank you to Buckfast & Haggis who Which sounds like some food they eat in Scotland. I don't know what it is, man He has a note here but he registered a domain for us that is forwarding to noagendershow.com selfradical.com Yeah That's what we need Do you guys just want the show to end? Is that the idea? You just want us to be droned and have it all done with

1:03:54 Thank you very much. I'm sure there'll be a lot more that we'll be working on in the next couple of days We got the long part of the week and even though it's Memorial Day weekend, we will still of course Be all over it to them There's always something happened they always like to have things take place when everyone's out partying and Buying cars because that's what we do here in America when we're supposed to be remembering the war fallen And please remember us Dvorak org slash n a Of course, while you're hanging out with the family and friends over the weekend how about propagating the formula? Our formula is this. We go out we hit people in the mouth Shut up Ray!

1:04:50 Which, as you know in my family is taken very seriously. I am the true black sheep of the family and my entire family comes from a long line of servicemen and women both in uniformed and non-uniform services which is probably why I'm doing what I do! A lot people have analyzed me this way And so Memorial Day weekend is of course a time to think about the people who have served our country. But the servicemen and women, and you know I think it's clear John or it's no secret that...I mean through the show in general but I think myself particularly we have a bond with people in the service. Am not quite sure why? Have you ever thought about this?

1:05:43 About your bond with people in the service? Yeah. No Okay, I mean it's a thing that started with the challenge coins But maybe is because when I was I went to Iraq or I don't know what it is It's you for some reason You know and I come from a family but I have not served myself you know so it's um I'm serving your country by doing this show well Maybe that's what it is but as for some reason I have a bond and so I have a lot of contact with people, you know email, WhatsApp is a favorite. You're simpatico I don't know what it is but here's what it is very similar to what people in three-letter agencies have is...you know I understand on a human level what they're going through and what they are thinking and because we vocalize that on the show

1:06:37 They feel that they're not crazy. Maybe that's what it is. I think the public at large, the ones who listen to this show for any period of time...I think its a relaxing show because you realize oh yeah well that makes sense. Because when you watch mainstream media which is really representing elites only and its very minority Making no sense they did what they say it makes no sense you and your listener And then when there's a good question like you said the Amy Goodman doesn't end ask the question. Yeah, she hasn't asked the obvious When she did that report on the boat the guy scribbling his note on the boat in a plastic boat yeah You know never know who just reads it or she's read it like any other man up it yeah So the president does his show and of course is Memorial Day weekend so he knows he doesn't high all everybody and

1:07:31 And as I listened to what he was saying, it really...really bugged me. Because if you- all you have to do is add a mustache and armband or maybe just think North Korea and if you just saw subtitles of what he's saying You would think to yourself My God! He's an insane dictator! He's obsessed with war With war and egocentric nonsense. Do you think we could listen to this, and remove ourselves and step back? And think... kind of reverse it? Because do you think we can do a role reversal on ourselves? You think that's possible because at first I was like oh just another boring speech about Memorial Day uh-huh! But when i played it again I forced myself and I listened again like the words coming out of his mouth they're inhumane should we give it a try

1:08:35 I, a game. Alright Pyle everybody! Hi everybody this week i've been speaking about America's national security okay that's the setup because it's not even talking about what when its legal to kill people our past our present and our future on Thursday outlined the future of our fight against terrorism the threats we face in the way in which we will meet them On Friday went to Annapolis to celebrate extraordinary young men and women of the United States Naval Academy class 2013 the sailors and Marines who will not only lead that fight but who will lead our country for decades to come. So already he's talking about fight this already the word fight has come out in his message of love and peace And on Monday we celebrate Memorial Day unofficially it's the start a summer, a chance for us to spend some extra time with family and friends at barbecues or on the beach getting a little fun and relaxation in before heading back to work If you got a job

1:09:35 It's also a day on which we set aside some time, on our own or with our families to honor and remember all the men and women who have given their lives in service to this country that we love. Okay so far so good but remember now this is 2013 when were all supposed to be getting along and where global universe you've got the internet we communicate with people all over the world and this guy is not going to talk about war They are heroes each and every one They gave America the most precious thing they had, the last full measure of devotion. So when you die it's now called the last full measure of devotion? Do you feel like this is where I went ugh...

1:10:19 That's like, you know I've heard of the ultimate sacrifice. Devotion? It's the last full measure of devotion. Devotion?! Yes! Devotion. That's a rather odd word to be using... it gets worse And because they did we are who we are today What!? a free and prosperous nation, the greatest in the world. See this is what if Kim Jong-un stands up and says we're the greatest nation in the world everyone goes you shut down sit up a hole but when Obama does it's okay no I don't think it's good for any anyone to say were the best in the world just this is not modern anymore this is not modern speak at a time when only about one percent of the American people bear the burden of our defense oh

1:11:10 I see. That's not true! We're all leeching, we're just leeching off of their true dedication and that's not true you're right the service and sacrifice of our men and women in uniform isn't always readily apparent that's partly because our soldiers sailors airmen Marines and Coast Guardsman are so skilled at what they do it's also because those who serve tend to do so quietly they don't seek the limelight They don't serve for our admiration or even our gratitude. They risk their lives, and many give their lives for something larger than themselves or any of us." See that is also just not true anymore I'm sorry i speak to these men and women

1:11:54 It's a job. It was probably the only job that they had in many, many cases or it's a family legacy because you've got families who are bakers and families who are military men and women and it's a job! And right now they hate you. They hate your guts. I'm speaking on behalf of the American Men In Service Women who tell me they hate you. They hate you for what you're making them do, for how long you're making them do it... ...for the unclear reasons that they are doing it. And! You're screwing them right now by taking away their money!!

1:12:35 They do not like you and this is not going over well, this little Heil speech of yours. The ideals of liberty and justice that make America a beacon of hope for the world No it's not a beacon of hope! You can't get in...you gotta have Ausweis all kinds of papers It costs thousands of dollars And then you get in here and then you're just treated like a slave That's not true anymore That has been truth throughout our history Up until George Bush I maybe From our earliest days when a tiny band of revolutionaries stood up to an empire to our 9-11 generation, which... Oh, our 9-11 generation. There it is! That's a good one. There it is ladies and gentlemen you're the 911 generation... You used to be the Pepsi Generation now you're the 911 generation which means forever you will be terrorized by your government with the thought that if you don't stand up and if you don't have the ultimate dedication like 1% of people who do then you are just a leecher and not here for best country in the universe

1:13:33 continues to serve and sacrifice today. Every time a threat has risen, Americans have risen to meet it and because of that courage that willingness to fight and even die America endures John this is sickening tell me I'm not crazy That is the purpose of Memorial Day To remember with gratitude the countless men and women who gave their lives so we could know peace and live in freedom And we must do more than remember

1:14:09 We must care for the loved ones that our fallen service members have left behind. We must make sure all our veterans have the care and benefits they've earned, and the jobs and opportunity they deserve." Yeah, well then why don't you start doing that? "...we must be there for the military families whose loved ones are in harm's way...for they serve as well..." And above all, we must make sure that the men and women of our armed forces have the support they need to achieve their mission safely at home and abroad. Alright so... Safely at home? Oh yeah! Their mission is safely at home What mission do they have at home? Say it while it's listening again The jobs and opportunity they deserve We must be there for the military families whose loved ones are in harm's way For they serve as well

1:14:54 And above all, we must make sure that the men and women of our armed forces have the support they need to achieve their mission safely at home and abroad. The young men and women I met in the Naval Academy this week know the meaning of service. They've studied the heroes of our history. They've chosen to follow in their footsteps – to stand their watch, man a ship, lead a platoon. They are doing their part, and each of us must do ours." So, this weekend as we commemorate Memorial Day I ask you to hold all our fallen heroes in your hearts and every day let's work together to preserve what their sacrifices achieved. To make our country even stronger, even more fair, even more free. That is our mission

1:15:40 It's our obligation. And it is our privilege as the heirs of those who came before us, and as citizens of the United States of America." You know... Thanks. Oh thanks! Hey thanks! Thanks, Dan, thanks! Hey thanks! Heil! Hey thanks! Okay I'm done, thanks. If at least he was honest and said Look, let me be clear. We make stuff that goes on the stuff these strap-on the stuff that kills stuff and That's our business all right And that is what keeps our economy working. So that's why we got to put people everywhere so we can continue to sell stuff, We sell this stuff! This is what we make and it's what we sell! Curiously I have a bunch of clips that address this. Actually if I clip more from this guy would address it even better but there are just too many clips. But let me...this guy's Bruce Gagnon who was an ex-young Republican turned radical progressive over the years which

1:16:39 which is always interesting because you have these crazy perspectives. But here was the attention getter, this is a very short clip that got my attention where I had to say wait a minute! I gotta listen to what this guy's gotta say... This afternoon I want to talk to you about the military industrial complex corporate criminal syndicate Perfect! John, now I just want the audience to know that at no point did you or i have any conversation about what I was going to discuss for what you are going to discuss. This is pure coincidence No we do this routinely because we're essentially uh it's just a this is why the show so good We're two hearts beating as one? No anything but that Sorry

1:15:40 It's our obligation. And it is our privilege as the heirs of those who came before us, and as citizens of the United States of America." You know... Thanks. Oh thanks! Hey thanks! Thanks, Dan, thanks! Hey thanks! Heil! Hey thanks! Okay I'm done, thanks. If at least he was honest and said Look, let me be clear. We make stuff that goes on the stuff these strap-on the stuff that kills stuff and That's our business all right And that is what keeps our economy working. So that's why we got to put people everywhere so we can continue to sell stuff, We sell this stuff! This is what we make and it's what we sell! Curiously I have a bunch of clips that address this. Actually if I clip more from this guy would address it even better but there are just too many clips. But let me...this guy's Bruce Gagnon who was an ex-young Republican turned radical progressive over the years which

1:16:39 which is always interesting because you have these crazy perspectives. But here was the attention getter, this is a very short clip that got my attention where I had to say wait a minute! I gotta listen to what this guy's gotta say... This afternoon I want to talk to you about the military industrial complex corporate criminal syndicate Perfect! John, now I just want the audience to know that at no point did you or i have any conversation about what I was going to discuss for what you are going to discuss. This is pure coincidence No we do this routinely because we're essentially uh it's just a this is why the show so good We're two hearts beating as one? No anything but that Sorry

1:17:33 Okay, so this guy has his long speech where he goes on and it went on for I wish I could have just played the whole thing but obviously i can't. So I'm going to bring out a few of his ta- This will be a build up to a couple of zingers at the end but play Gangnam 2. Okie dokie But why? Why would the United States want to restart the Cold War with Russia Why would we do that? Well, the only conclusion I can come to is because Russia has the world's largest supply of natural gas today and significant supplies of oil. And don't we know by now that the primary job of the Pentagon is to serve as the resource extraction service for corporate globalization So how long has he been listening to this show?

1:18:32 He's actually got, here is the problem with this guy. Now I see this with the progressive side if you take the far right and the far left they kind of meet each other in the middle curiously or actually not in the middle but in the back as they come around and the problem I'll tell you just...I don't have a clip of this but when he finally summarizes what we can do to change things His solution is to stop global warming and build high-speed rail You have to get those clips But he's right of course that is the answer to everything So, he's got a couple of theories that he brings up and I'll try to just Explain him as we go along but play the the offense clip part 3. Okay?

1:19:21 You know, Obama recently announced just a couple months ago A pivot of US foreign and military policy into the Asian Pacific region This is part of a long-range plan that's been under development for some time In 2001 The Washington Post reported in an article entitled For the Pentagon Asia Moving to the Forefront That the U.S was going to double its military presence in the Asia Pacific region And as a result, you can imagine the Pentagon will need more bases and more ports of call for its hugely expanding military in the Asia-Pacific. Obama followed this announcement of the pivot by going to Australia where he negotiated a deal to send 2,500 U.S. Marines to Darwin on the north coast of Australia

1:20:18 Had you heard that Australia was in danger of being invaded by anyone? And so we had to send in the US Marines to protect them. No, of course not! This is not about defense whatsoever it's about offense. No, It's about sales Well, he actually says that at some point but we're gonna go on because I got to get to this these last two clips. Play the encirclement of China which is another one these are all leading to the clips that are going to be the punchlines At the same time the Obama administration is surrounding China with these missile defense systems now putting ground-based launchers in Taiwan

1:21:03 in Japan, in South Korea and just a few weeks ago announced that they would go into Okinawa. These Navy Aegis warships with missile defense systems on board are also going into Japan, South Korea Australia, Guam and Obama is negotiating with Vietnam Singapore the Philippines and other countries in the region to move these warships into their countries beginning this encirclement of China. That's what I'm gonna be thinking about this Memorial Day weekend the encirclement of China, encirclement of China and Russia. So now we get to the meat of it this little diddy is one that got me he had two things to say in this whole speech that I thought were interesting and the first strike clip is one of the two

1:21:55 Each year the Space Command annually war games a first strike attack on China set in the year 2016. They call it the red team versus the blue team. China today has 20 nuclear missiles capable of hitting the west coasts of United States and in this computer war game, The United States tries to take out those 20 Chinese nuclear missiles The first weapon they use is the successor to the shuttle. You've heard the shuttle is being retired, and in its place is being developed the military space plane that would fly down from orbit drop a devastating attack both either conventional or nuclear weapons bunker-busters that go under the ground try to take out China's underground missile silos

1:22:53 And then they follow on with other weapon systems in that first strike attack. But in the computer war game, China is able to fire a few of its nuclear missiles in a retaliatory strike and it is then that these so-called missile defense systems what we call missile offense systems are used Their job, take out the remaining retaliatory capability giving the US a successful first strike attack. And so after the first strike sword lunges into the heart of China or Russia, the missile defense shield is used to take out

1:23:38 their remaining retaliatory capability. And so of course this is why Russia is saying we're going to have to withdraw from the New START treaty because why do we want to reduce our numbers of nuclear weapons when you're surrounding us with missile offense systems? And China is saying that we're going to have to make our nuclear weapons survivable. That's why they are buying submarines from Russia, so they can take their nuclear weapons and put them under the ocean where they can't be so easily taken out in a US first strike attack Can I interject before you get to your big punchline? Yeah So what showed up in the Federal Register

1:24:27 an amendment to the international traffic and arms regulations, the revision of US munitions list category 15 and definition of defense service. So they changed some definitions I'll just read this one little paragraph. As part of the President's export control reform effort, the Department of State proposes to amend the International Traffic and Arms Regulations to revise Category 15 to describe more precisely the articles warranting control by the USML The definition of defense service is to be revised to among other changes specifically include the furnishings of assistance for spacecraft

1:25:11 It's interesting. How often have I said that there are space wars going on right now as we speak? Well, actually if you listen to this whole guy's speech... This whole speech from this person He talks about this too and he talks about the Space Command and all the rest of it And there is a lot of stuff that he talks about how You remember the kid, The Hacker who found out that he saw the Pentagon computer where it talked about who was on world and off-world Right. The kid they wanted to extradite? This is real! So anyway, eventually it always becomes about the money no matter what you want to believe in and so we have clip 6 which actually brings a lot of this he brings out the point that Obama before he got elected promised he was going to take down these

1:26:06 missile, the Bush Missile Defense stuff. Yeah because they were old and outdated we got to put in the new stuff well that's essentially what this clip tells us about but it has a little another angle Well just prior to the 2008 election an very dear friend of mine in Maine An old man by the name of Herschel Sternlieb said to me Bruce have you ever heard of The Crown family in Chicago? And I said, no. He said go home and Google it. Crown C-R-O-W-N. And so I did and what I learned was that at the time of the election,

1:26:47 was the majority stockholders in General Dynamics Corporation that owns Bath Iron Works, where I live in Maine. That today is building these Navy Aegis destroyers with these so-called missile defense systems on board And as it turned out, the Crown family collectively gave Obama $500,000 for his 2008 run for president. In fact they also raised money for him within the military-industrial complex across the country. So after the election was over and after Obama had won Aviation Week and Space Technology Magazine reported

1:27:31 that Obama received more campaign donations from the military-industrial complex than the right wing war hawk John McCain did in that presidential election. The Crown family, because they believe in Barry. Because they love him and think he's going to change everything right? He is also a Jewish family and raised money for Obama nationally within the Jewish community So remember what I said early on soon after Obama became president

1:28:08 He announced that Bush's version of missile defense, that was supposed to go into Poland and the Czech Republic would not be deployed. And instead he moved forward with a different version that benefited the General Dynamics Corporation. The version that Bush wanted to deploy was a Boeing Lockheed Martin version of missile defense The cost of the standard, what they call DDG 51 Navy Aegis Destroyer previously has been 1.5 billion dollars each a lot of money

1:28:47 But a new version is now, for the first time being built at Bath Iron Works. In fact the Navy didn't want this ship because it's so expensive that they said it was going to harm their ship building budget but Obama said no you have to build it And just a few weeks ago, Associated Press reported that this new high-tech version of Aegis destroyers will cost somewhere between four and seven billion dollars per ship. So Obama clearly is rewarding the General Dynamics Corporation for helping to make him President of the United States

1:29:32 America. So how does he get from there to high-speed rail? I mean that's... Well, yeah he goes on and on with these stories they're all great! Where was this from what was this on? This was a this was on free speech TV hence the buzzing. Do they not know grounding over their? They have no idea what a ground loop is. Free Speech What's that? Is this available online you think, Speech TV... Probably. The guys name is Gagnon Bruce Gagnon He looks exactly like Larry David the comic comedian Interesting. Makes it very difficult to watch him Oh yes! Is that the keynote? Yeah a keynote at something Oh fabulous This is March 31st so this must be what it is Let me just check You just tell if this is and I'll put in show notes

1:30:28 Because this is, it was like an hour? Yeah. About an hour It was good I mean but except then he came into the global warming thing that was just like how do you make that connection That's the way did it with so convoluted that it wasn't even clippable Then high-speed rail was the real eye roller because he apparently doesn't realize that high speed rail is a big bigger scam than Discussed over the years. It's just the setup so so like Warren Buffett can get free tracks Do you think that maybe? Him doing that is his way of not getting to do the head kind of like I talked about You know like I'm crazy from tooth they had from who oh

1:31:10 from the environmentalists? No, you won't get shouted down. Well that may be part of it because you know the left right now shouts you down if they don't follow their checklist and the right has its checklist both these checklists are terrible from both sides of the argument Checklist or hit list what do you want to call it? It's a checklist that you have to follow these or you won't get picked up. They will play your stuff Yeah, this is don't get to be won't be the Rand Paul at the at this dinner if you are not You know extolling certain things that the right has on its checklist and the same thing with this guy so I don't know but i think he was sincere about the global warming and the trains we gotta get people out of the cars, as you said. And put them in trains. I don't know about you but once you get to the train station you got to get a car again somehow No, I think that the whole idea... We need these apps where people can hook themselves up

1:32:08 You know, just an app. Just a bunch of developers... this is the problem. Here's the problem with those apps that you're talking about. The car sharing systems? I can tell you the problem is it'll get kicked out of the Apple Store! That's the problem It will get kicked out of the Apple Store there in San Francisco they already have a law against it you can't do it in New York I mean they did the local councilman pretty much beaten up by the taxi guys. They're taking our business away! It's like Airbnb is now outlawed, or it either is or about to be outlawed in New York you cannot... I think it is And they are trying that in Austin too We have friends who have a little chalet in the back we call it a chalet basically its a shed

1:32:50 that they made look real pretty and you know, they rent it out for You know, I think it can be as much as like during South by is probably 200 bucks a day And people gladly pay it, but you know then all of a sudden the city shows up. It's like well You know we got an unlicensed gotta have inspection done and of course they can't have it inspected because it's you know? It's not like a room in the house. It's a chalet so you know it's not met It's not fit for human consumption probably So then this hell No We're just having people in the house and they inspect the how the whole thing is crazy Then they wind up paying a license fee and that's just the beginning of the end

1:33:30 Whereas, shouldn't you...shouldn't that just be up to you? Can't you just...? If I want to... Well this is a government intrusion. And it's in the personal, you know, uh, personal... Freedoms! Yeah well there's that. Uh, I was looking for the perfect word now. Freedoms! Whatever the case is yeah government intrusion on personal freedoms and your ability to just act outside the government where the government's not you know checking in on everything you do and of course, the government argues that it is protecting the poor innocent idiot who uses Airbnb unknowingly. You know there could be a cockroach in the place or might be unstable or could catch on fire and we're... you know the first... And their argument would be well you know the first one of these places that catches on fire and kills the guy who used Airbnb they're gonna blame us! Right

1:34:21 And you know, they always said this is the commonest like this is essentially how far we've gotten with if you're chewing gum in class. If I let you chew gum in class that means I have to let everybody chew gum in class. You know? If I let YOU do that one thing then I have to let EVERYBODY do that one thing! which is illogical if you think about it because not everybody wants to do that one thing, whatever it is. This is the problem with all this stuff and I think you hit the nail on the head which is that instead of bypassing and when you try to bypass with these apps yeah you end up getting arrested by the government. Arrested yes!

1:35:04 You'll get arrested. Well, maybe it's time to read this then You actually told me I should read this on the show Yeah, the one that was yeah I did. Yes it's from Sir Jim of Jamaica Plains... Jamaica Plain! I'm sorry not plains, Jamaica Plain On the May 23rd No Agenda podcast while discussing the growing concern that some Americans have to even contribute to The NO Agenda Show because security checks

1:35:43 You mused about what parallels there might have been in Germany in the 1930s. This is indeed, you said what was it like at the dinner table in the 30's when Hitler was coming into political power and things were changing? So Sir Jim... I've met Sir Jim! Nice guy He would be the first one on the train by the way The best treatment of this subject that I have read is Attention No Agenda Book Club In The Garden Of Beasts By Eric Larson And this is in the show notes, which tells us it tells The story of Germany's slide into fascism through the eyes of the US ambassador William Dodd and his family one of the most inspired pieces of population control developed by the regime was the Hitler salute Which started as a military salute among soldiers and what's quickly mandated for all German civilians Heil everybody

1:36:37 All greetings between German citizens had to include the Heil Hitler and the extended arm salute. I didn't know it was mandatory, that's kind of cool! Imagine you can get people to do this! It's like Klingons slamming their fist into each others' hearts Only non-Germans were exempted from the requirement The book tells a story about the well known US columnist commentator HV Kaltenborn a German apologist and Roosevelt opponent. While in Berlin, he and his family were attacked on the street because they failed to salute a group of soldiers marching down the street

1:37:15 A fluent German speaker, Kaltenborn told the soldiers he was an American but they roughed him up anyway. It's no wonder that everyone falls in line faced with the continuous requirement brutally enforced for these very public demonstrations of obedience having read extensively about the German experience throughout the thirties it makes me very uneasy to see our subtle but steady progress down this road zero tolerance policies various types corporate mandated politically correct language schooling, security theater in the airports, continuous video and phone monitoring. The redefinition of constitutional rights to cultural monitoring we are creating the same environment of being continuously watched and evaluated for appropriate thinking and behavior I wonder where it all could lead if only we had a previous example was signed Sir Jim of Jamaica Plain

1:38:09 new home Auschwitz. Where you going Jim? Okay that's drone talk! Drone talk, that's drone talk. That is just drone talk it's a beautiful note and thank you and I picked the book up when i have started reading it now im gonna be reading it probably tomorrow ill finish it how little we know of history how little we remember how little were taught really of history We're taught next to nothing nowadays I think that even my generation, which is the pre-911 generation. What was I? I'm the Pepsi Generation! You're Xgen, I think... Nooo, please! Oh you're a late baby boomer. I am the Pepsi Generation. Okay, that's what you are. I truly am the Pepsi Generation where we were born into a world of... I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony. And then there was this Coke commercial.

1:39:10 But they call it generation singing a coke song. Mmm, that's how confused we are Yeah, well there's that um Well now you've messed with my head You're now confused So I here's okay just a little short thing I want to remind people that when we do these analysis is there's other podcasts you can listen to mm-hmm Oh really? I have a couple here but i'm gonna play this one which Is I think the most awkward podcast ever you could be listening to this instead of know agenda recording now hello everybody Hey! What's up? My name is Sub to Me for a review. And uh, this is my channel probably I don't know where we're gonna upload It might also be my channel I dunno It's not going to be Seamus' channel I might upload as well you can't stop me So guys say your names Press the button Hang on man I'm talking about Connor How do I know Joe? I don't think it heard him Yeah I don't think it did either Wow this is the most awkward This is the most awkward

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1:50:23 and I am, and he's... something is going to happen to him because he so self-contradictory in the way he approaches news analysis. Who is this? That it's like you're saying one thing or just say something else Ed Schwartz Oh ffff.... Now what does he on there? He must be at MSNBC Yeah of course Right And uh... So Ed Schwartz comes out with a rant all he does his rant against the Republicans and he just bitches and moans about the Republicans but he doesn't seem to get I think his facts are crooked and he's ranting about, I don't know what. But play these two clips of Ed going off the deep end blaming the Republicans for it.

1:51:03 Here's what it stems from. There was a bunch of Republicans, or I guess just people in Congress saying the heroes in that school that got decimated in Oklahoma their teachers were heroes and he is all upset about them calling them heroes because he says they're heroes all the time and always trying to take their money away from him you know? They are trying to start private schools even though I have to say private schools are filled with teachers who probably get paid more and that might be a benefit But anyway, let's play clip one. Realize that there are heroes in classrooms every day and every school across America? But when it comes time to talk about their pay or better health care or their pension or even protecting their pension... Whoa! We don't hear any hero talk then do we?! They're a bunch of union thugs they're a bunch of underachievers people that you would never think would step up during a disaster and save a kid's life no they're only heroes when they do that

1:51:57 A White House report shows that roughly 300,000 education jobs have been cut since 2009. Three hundred thousand? Is that going forward or backward you think? The Republican budget cuts is what they are. Along with the recession, no doubt it has created a very toxic environment for teachers and their profession and right now ground zero you could say is Chicago. The Chicago Public Schools are ground zero. The battle to protect our teachers and save an American institution this week Mayor Rahm Emanuel he's the expert you know He hand-picked the Chicago School Board voted to close 50 schools

1:52:38 It is the largest round of school closures ever to hit this country. And there is no denying that the closings hurt poor African-American neighborhoods and African American kids. Now, The Chicago Sun Times reported that nine out of ten students affected by these closing are black. Does this seem weird to you? Does he know that Rahm Emanuel is like not only a Democrat but worked in the Obama administration or is he like... Won't someone think of the children! I mean, I just find this. This is what I talk about when I talk about the short-circuited Yeah no that's exactly what it is His brain has fried It's gone loopy Yeah and so he But he can't let up So he goes back with part two here which

1:53:36 I guess it's longer or shorter, can't tell. Shorter and it's the same thing we see this so often with all these politically driven people they are there they have their minds are scrambled by the self-contradictory nature of their arguments I have to ask you tonight, folks. What do all of these governors have in common? They are Republicans! They hate public education. They want to voucher Medicare. They want to voucher health care. They want to voucher public education. They don't mind if some kids fail. You know that currently 13 states have some form of a voucher program. Make no mistake these vouchers are... it's a conservative plot

1:54:20 to privatize education. These vouchers are going to leave kids behind, it will funnel public education funds right into private schools! Why? Because these people think they're gonna be better?! It is unfair, it's racist and in some courts its been ruled Constitutional and so when I start hearing all this talk about heroes The teachers are heroes. They're heroes at shootings their heroes at tornadoes No, they're heroes every damn day because they're putting up with an ideology that is attacking them So this is all of course under the aegis of NBC which is really an arm of General Electric still. Right, right. Tomcat owns it mostly and so the kind of thing you find on NBC showing the kinda overall naivete of the network is ads like Find A Forest Near You. The forest is a magical place for your whole family with animals and fun all around

1:55:22 So discover the forest and explore all the wonder that's there. Visit DiscoverTheForest.org to find a forest near you. I got a forest right here between my pants, hold on look at this. To find a forest near you? Are you kidding me?! Wait a minute... What is it? Findaforest.org? Let's see! So they can find a forest near you, you idiot! Hold on let me find a forest. Hey Google is suggesting find a florist Wait a minute, find a for did I misspell it? Find the forest. Oh this discover the forest That's not what he said though. No, you said find a forest org didn't he let me check Discovered the forest let's see within 15 miles and you must zip code

1:56:24 This is another one of those eight million dollar websites waste of money as usual. Yeah, let's see I can slog all these activities okay? Let's go Wow We got lots of forest around here Of course it's Austin you have to Austin are you kidding me they have an app too the nature find app who do who Who's paying for this? Ad Council. Of course, it's a PSA. It's the worst PSA or the one that came up is one of the house ads where they have The More You Know. Yeah this is an old campaign by the way yeah well they got new versions of it from Children's Programming Hour you know I watch Smash which I think had the seasons ended and they keep putting

1:57:11 The girl who plays Marilyn, she does a couple of these the more you know. And I should have recorded it because we could do a great segment. Mickey and I will sit there and go like what the fuck is that? It's like... Well if you think that's crazy listen to this one! Do you know what super cool about having your own plate? It's all yours and its small like you so the grown-ups won't use it and its the perfect size for the perfect portion to keep you healthy You'll love your super cool smaller plate the more you know have the small plate slave and shut up what was that all about you need a small plate this is this is this is it this is 1930's we're sitting around the table Fritz, you need a smaller plates so you won't become fat and you can fight in the army Heil Hitler!

1:58:07 This is exactly it are we just doomed to repeat history apparently as America how is it possible? How can we have how can I get this far no? It's I think that's why we're not doing anything with our infrastructure because we expected all be blowed up in like some massive war Between China Russia us and who knows who well, it's about time We use about time. We get some new stuff Wow yeah by the way from the crackpot files you know Russia had this huge offshore earthquake although who knows what an 8.5 is anymore it could just be your teeth rattling or something well maybe it was a point nine there is word on the I should read this to you because it's kind of funny let me see it was called alert alert here it is alerts

1:59:07 No, this is US Forest Service partnering with the Ad Council. So this is public money. Anyway go on. Word is California is about to get the big one I love when this is predicted This says... what year has not been predicted? Well just saying it's time once again and people...the elites apparently are moving out of San Jose area No, they're not. Okay! Taking them away just for the long weekend? Okay! I mean you don't put it in the book... By the way there was a story

1:59:44 And I don't you know, I've lived in San Francisco for a while and certainly visited quite a bit. And it was a story I think in the Guardian about the private shuttle buses for the Google and Twitter and Apple workers that drives the city and pick the elites up and then drive them to work...and people are getting pissed off at this! Well, it's because there are so many of them. Well yeah but the public I think also because parking for regular slaves is 25 cents per 30 seconds that public transportation is atrocious and um...I think if you see one of these buses one of these Google or Twitter buses you should need to egg it

2:00:28 Yeah, we should be egging these buses. Yeah this elites with their Wi-Fi air conditioned buses Floating on by you little slavelets as they shower their trinkets of free services on you and let me make the calculation What is it one? I think Tumblr claims 150 million users let's say its 50 Let's just say its 50 that would be a lot 50 real 50 million real users right not just somebody who wandered by signed up and then never returned which is generally what these numbers are. So if we take 6 so we take 1 billion well actually it's one point one, so 11123 123 123 divided by 5123456

2:01:30 Does that mean you were worth 22 bucks? Or is it 220 bucks. Well generally speaking, do the reverse calculation and figure it out. So what's 50 million times 10 is 500 times 20 would be a billion yeah so about 22 bucks. But thats what you are worth to Yahoo if you have a Tumblr account and use it. That not bad number by the way No, but a number of values. I just want people to understand that's how that value is actually determined right? That's how it's done So you know thank you for your 20 bucks that you the citizen They have now been sold off with your work and your content your ideas your thoughts your posts your research All the way gave it away and yeah, but you end up with the surplus so you're worth $20 because you're you rest

2:02:23 Gives away content. Yeah, and so they took you packaged you up Yes The way magazines and newspapers in all these websites that sell advertising do the same thing Which is what we don't do by the way And I want to encourage people who remember that yeah that you're not the product no You have a stake in this show That's what you have and there's never gonna be a moment where someone's gonna come along and say Adam and John We're buying your show That's that I would guarantee that. I think we can put that in writing We're buying your show let me see how many tens of listeners do you have? Hmm so it's just yeah, and then these people of course they're a New York based company But it's the idea of it all You know it's the idea It's as kept going back to what I said earlier How insane are you or are we really collectively funny Mickey was convinced that you friended her on Facebook

2:03:20 There's this dude who has a profile and it's basically your picture but all like made weird. Kind of which you know, like Photoshopped grungy crunchy and the name is like John Vorjok You know like some bastardization And she accepted the friend request She was like I think John friended me with the secret Facebook account I said let me tell you one thing This man does not have a Facebook account He really, really, really doesn't. She's like are you sure? Are you so sure? I said absolutely because she thought it was brilliant It was like, you know...it was like stealthy Like no! I don't have time for that kind of game No

2:04:03 Besides that, my social networks are LinkedIn and Twitter. That's what I use. Do I have to be a part of every social network? No you don't! People will join me at the bombastic, join me at clout... It is one thing after another. It is ridiculous. You'd be spending all your time joining these idiotic things and it's usually useless. I'm leaving everything and after the show today I'm completing my sign up and configuration of my new social network PSKmail. PSKNet? PSKMail. PSKMAIL? Yes What does that mean it was a name of the program, PSKmail It's a social network which functions only with high-frequency ham radios Oh! PSK phase shift

2:05:00 PSK phase shift keying. Yes, thank you. Phase shift keying and it does connect to the internet but it also doesn't need it so you can still communicate and there's servers all over the world. It's all Unix based stuff and you can hit one of these servers. They have a wikispaces.com entry And it's a real deal. Yeah, you could do APRS messages so you could communicate... You can even actually tweet from this as well It does connect to the internet But if the internet falls away then it's- The network is still in place So I can't wait Can't? You can still communicate? Help me! I'm in Austin Send seeds

2:05:41 So there was a very interesting thing that happened this week with David Hold on a second chat room. That is PSK mail M a IL they all think I'm like, I'm some gay Hey, I'm joining PSK male okay leave me alone Dutch so David coke look coke bro So he was like, one of the major donors to public radio. Yeah I read this story... What was this in? It's in The New Yorker and apparently what they did is they decided to do a

2:06:18 Somebody did a documentary that essentially just slammed the crap out of him. Do you have a clip for this? No, I have no clip. It's funny and good story. And one of the reasons that i'm telling this story because it is another example why our model for survival is better than this other version because PBS was torn about running the documentary on especially like he's on the board of WNET and is a big supporter. He has given hundreds of millions of dollars to public radio and public TV. I don't know if it's hundreds of millions, but it's a lot. A hit piece on him on one of his companies that he is like on the board of Well hold on hold on...I understood that it was partially a hit piece on the building that he lives in and it turns out there are whole bunch of other democrat elites who live in the same building because of course No there isn't that but The true rich people are democrats

2:07:13 Well, that proves that. That's for sure but yeah it was 7040 Park Avenue I believe But anyway there was a bunch of very nasty stuff about him being a douchebag essentially And so he just pulls the plug and said fuck it I quit WNAT I'm not giving you any more money if you're gonna pull this crap So everybody goes on and on about, oh this just proves that you know they've got great moral standards at these networks. And this is what the New Yorker essentially concluded because they had a choice between one of their supporters big-time sponsor and then the hit piece so they chose to hit peace and got rid of him he left yeah I saw it completely differently

2:07:54 they have never done anything like this to their other big supporters Bank of America, Chevron, Daniels Midland, Monsanto, BNSF, Burlington Northern any these guys which are having you know there would have a liberal bias so they got the one guy who has a right-wing bias they do I hit on him yeah get him out and then they take all his days to feel so good about themselves even though for all practical purposes most public television is anti, I mean we know this it's anti-right. It's very pros, very liberal, very corny the whole thing. So this is not just stepping up... It's corny! Hey did you...? There was a pretty interesting little protest that happened over the weekend What? Oh this wasn't on public television?

2:08:45 I didn't see it on public television. Wow, there was like 40 countries and these were real pro- I got a little roundup here of course you may not see this on public television i believe Monsanto is a big supporter of PBS am I wrong? I've seen them support many many times so here's a little roundup I think I got some Seattle and some Canadian news and you can tell that these protests were real from the heart because the signs were not professional That's how it usually works with real protests. So there is no organization behind them other than citizens who are just mad. This March, one of hundreds of rallies scheduled across the US today A march organizer hopes voters will support initiative 522 in November which would require labels on genetically altered foods Demonstrators say Monsanto and other agrochemical companies do their own testing of seeds

2:09:42 And they don't allow independent testing of their seed without their permission. And so this is an important thing that we want, is to be able to know what's in our food, examine what's in our food, demand testing, demand accountability." Monsanto says its seeds help farmers produce more food while conserving water and energy Hundreds of protesters marched in downtown Vancouver against genetically modified foods. Demonstrators say they want to highlight the dangers posed by those foods and the companies that produce them, including seed giant Monsanto. Similar marches were held in more than 50 countries around the world

2:10:20 the whole foods near Westlake and Denny were evacuated this afternoon after two letters were found. They had notes written on them and they smelled like rotten eggs. Today's protest march in downtown Seattle against Monsanto started at 1pm. That, by the way is a funny protest! That's the stuff that you need to be doing if rotten egg smells... Oh my god there are rotten eggs clear out the place or it could be poisonous! Parking ended near the Seattle Center

2:11:00 There were other protests against Monsanto. They took place in more than 36 countries and 250 US cities today. Organizers say they're calling attention to the dangers of genetically modified food and the companies that produce it Genetically modified plants are grown from seeds engineered to resist insecticides and herbicides, and also improve crop yield. Opponents believe they can lead to health problems that also harm the environment but the federal government and many scientists countered that technology is safe So there was not a lot of this on the big networks or any of the cable news networks you know instead we just have that incessant over-and-over again people standing next to rubble

2:11:42 Get it you know, yeah sure or that other story that you The dog and the guy was left and then we got a football player another president forget Sunday night There's gonna be the Liberace movie the Liberace movie oh you don't know about this? Oh yes no I saw it, I can't wait to see this. This is Matt Damon and Douglas Michael Douglas all watch that behind the candelabra it's on isn't it on HBO yeah cuz there's no American distributor would take the movie It looks super cheesy. Playing in theaters in Europe... It looks super cheesy! It looks cheesy to me too, and that's why I was thinking about this, they're talking like no American...I'm looking at what I've seen the trailer and thinking, I can see why nobody is going to go to a theater or watch this TV movie. I would. It's probably like Liz & Dick only just a little bit better By the way staying on the Monsanto thing In Montgomery Alabama there's a big port

2:12:43 And you know people are dying there from some mysterious respiratory disease. I think seven or eight people have died already and the theory i'm hearing is that because of the weather, the cotton is a little late this year but it's Monsanto cotton seed and this is getting into peoples lungs and they're dying from it Now this could obviously be anti-Monsanto planted story But I think it does warrant looking at Who knows what that stuff would do to you. Right? Yeah, no! This is not good stuff. It definitely needs to be looked into Meanwhile in Toronto... I do NOT use crack cocaine nor am i an addict of crack cocaine As for a video, I cannot comment on a video that have never seen or does not exist That's the mayor We got shitty mayors compared to Toronto

2:13:38 At least they got guys. Did you hear about this? Borderline clip of the day! This guy, so apparently...this is great There's a video of the mayor of Toronto smoking crack with crack dealers And, uh... but the person who has this video won't sell it unless they have like $200,000 or whatever. But listen to what he says! I do not use crack cocaine He says, I do not- you didn't say, I didn't? He says, I DO NOT use Nor am i an addict But he like this is like the nor am I an addict. This is like, I didn't do it. I didn't shoot her in the head and I'm not a good shot. Yeah, I think it's funny. Like if only you know if you would just say yeah, I smoked that crack so what? What's your problem? Is the city running at the trains on time? What is your problem? I got a couple of little zingers here You know Stephanie Miller

2:14:40 Yeah, she's the one that was... isn't she the one from The New York Times or...? No. Well I only know her because on HLN... no What is the other CNN, maybe it's HLN. Headline news or whatever In The Morning she has a radio show. In The Morning? Yes! And then she... Oh her yeah I know right She touts her lesbianity alot Yeah she is like in the same league as I think Randy Rhoads and some of these others Right Right commentators right she's hilarious. It's kind of a semi comedic Obama bot yeah, Oh total obama bot and used a lot of sound effects oh well That's always a good side everything yep

2:15:31 But she also, because of her Obama botanist shows up on MSNBC and then she looks... She really cleans up well from the morning show. Her hair is all nice and pretty and she just... She still has kind of like a mean glint in her eye because she's just... She's a douchebag Yeah, maybe. I think so she's got that mean streak in her and then she's just a lockstep Obama bot. I don't like her yeah me neither and So Anthony Weiner of course is really going to run for New York mayor He's announced and he's done this video where it's like hey, I'm sorry

2:16:15 And you might actually want to go to weinerformayor.org or whatever it is, because you see Uma his wife sitting next to him on the stoop as he's saying whatever he's bull crappy spouting and you see her look in the camera but for a second her eyes flash off to the right You know, almost like... I'm watching the video now. It's at the very end of the very end. He got a little baby eating strawberries. No no go to the end, go to the very end and watch where they're sitting on the stoop, the front stoop and he saying hey you know yeah I messed up but I want to be good mayor! And she says something but her eyes dart off to the right for second telling me that she is holding her gunpoint

2:17:07 Watch, watch. Do you see it? The very end? Blah blah blah... He's standing up and they're sitting down You have to- I see her eyes wiggle back and forth Yeah yeah no but look at that close she's like It's a dart Like- Did i say it right? Did i say it right? So anyway so back to Stephanie Miller Of course he is powerful Wiener is powerful because He's Clinton's boy and the only thing he did wrong is he screwed it up because, well you know my theory is Uma has been Hillary's lover for many many years. Right and he's a beard And he's the beard and all they had to do was keep his penis in his pants which arguably he kind of did

2:17:54 but not mess up and then he would go on to greatness. And he was a congressman, he went from- He was set up to take Schumer's position in the Senate? Totally! He was totally setup and again I know the guy, I met the guy when he was a councilmen... ...He is an insincere douchebag But here is Stephanie Miller apologizing and I don't care what he tweets but he lied okay The thing that is being overlooked is that he is a liar Do you buy that apology second chance for Mr Wiener I guess so. You know, Aaron it seems to me he wasn't really... He didn't really do anything in terms of actual infidelity He was sort of convicted of being in eighth grade Uh..I don't know It just seems to be like its more a guy thing than a partisan thing Which middle school did you go to Stephanie? Don't even think about that! I just think is a guy thing and people are like well alright if his wife forgives him then I guess I do

2:18:46 So I did the guy one of the guys said what middle school did you go to where that was okay? But the point is he lied. I mean have we forgotten already how he stood there and lied and he lied to broth blitzer mind You didn't just lie to anybody He lied to broth, and he just lied in line And how can she be out there apologizing for this because she's part of the scheme She is and because of the power of the Clintons those people are wow man They're so powerful And then I'm going to give you an update on the war on printers. I think we've pretty much established my theory is, on the correct path... ...that this whole weapons thing printing guns is bull crap and it's about the fear! The total fear that industry has of these 3D printers and what actually will come to bear? So now of course we have to take this as some new test markets

2:19:44 Let's take it to Australia, where unfortunately you are following in our footsteps of becoming the large washed mashes of gelatin goo. And after y'all gave up your guns there I think is when it started. That was the down... The gun violence is down Adam! Yeah and And slavery is up, John. Don't you love how the internet brings us all of these news reports? So now we know that somewhere Cody Wilson just threw out the number, oh it's been downloaded 100 thousand times. That is now presented as fact! You know that's a meme now. Yeah, 100 thousand. It's only numbers not 105 thousand, 50 thousands, 200 thousands...it's always one hundred thousand which is just right number sounds good

2:20:54 and it's bullcrap. I mean like, yeah, I think you said at first which is that zip guns have been around since the... You know? And they're better! They don't explode! Right and they're better! Yeah so anyway the police have done a press conference John Stewart reports. And John Stewart has some kind of gig down there apparently. It's called The Liberator, a plastic gun made by a 3D printer By the way, every single time you see them fire it you see it exploding. Every version of this gun has exploded upon printing and testing except for the one that Cody Wilson fired 3D printers cost under $1500 and work by spraying down layer upon layer of plastic to form an object Plans of the objects can be downloaded over the internet

2:21:43 The model of this handgun has been obtained by more than 100,000 people around the world. It's so obvious! That weapon cost us approximately $35 to make. This is the cop speaking? Pretty high... We made that on a base entry level 3D printer. The NSW Police today warned the public against making or using plastic guns Make no mistake about it, not only are these things undetectable untraceable cheap and easy to make but they will kill. Oh! Make no mistake! Yeah the guy shooting? It penetrated approximately 17 centimeters Wow that guys got a huge one into the gelatin block which is about six and three quarter inches and that would have been a fatal wound if it was pointed at someone

2:22:32 that thing at me. The police have received information that plastic bullets can also be made by 3D printers Oh this is new information John, how do you get the gunpowder inside them? Plastic bullets! I have some gun powder ink and say that making or using a plastic gun in Australia is illegal if you are thinking about even considering making one of these weapons you need to understand that not only are they illegal But they are enormously dangerous. I love that if you're thinking about even considering it... This is new! Is that what he said? Thinking about considering? Yeah, yeah this is new! If you're thinking about considering... Yeah this is what we call uh... Before it's a crime

2:23:16 It's pretty crap. The police have received information that plastic bullets can also be made by 3D printers and say that making or using a plastic gun in Australia is illegal If you are thinking about even considering making one of these weapons, you need to understand that not only are they illegal but they're enormously dangerous I heard him say thinking about considering The Liberator is only a single shot handgun But the plastic guns are difficult to detect. That shot you heard was another video of Cody Wilson firing perfectly and becoming a threat to airport security. Authorities are concerned that gun owners may modify bigger weapons, making firearms fully automatic by printing their own gun parts. Homemade plastic landmines or grenades may also become a security problem

2:24:09 All the things I would want to print. It's just... Why are we this? Yeah, I guess we are. We're this stupid. Can you not put some fibers in there and just print money? I would think that's a better use of your time. Me too! Just get a fiber spinner or something, spinning printer or whatever? You can actually do that with the regular printers pretty easily if you... but the problem is and we'll mention this to anybody out there who thinks it can counterfeit using a good printer is that every printer has a code that is printed on every sheet of paper that's printed by that printer

2:24:53 And those codes, everyone knows. You can't see them but the code's there and they can track your printer down and track you down and find the guy who made these phony hundreds. And if it's not that? It's gonna be your Xbox One Kinect system that will rat on you! Yeah somebody'll rat on ya so you're not gonna get away with it Have you seen that thing?! Just let... Not yet. I did looks like a...it's not that fancy looking By the way I said let Bernanke do the printing Yeah, he's good at it. Now this Xbox One with the Kinect system... So you just like Google Glass you say XBOX ON!

2:25:32 and then it'll go bleep, bleep, bleep. Yeah I know this is suspicious. In other words it's listening all the time yeah hey by the way so I was looking at our calendars oh want to get this out of the way uh-oh I was gonna look at our calendars and I noticed that a six week cycle Oh! Is it time? Well no we had it we had all these incidents that took place including the FBI shooting that guy well that was part cycle that began with the Boston thing. So, the next six weeks coming from this most recent little episodes turns out to be the July 4th week I am putting in the book that we're going to have an episode because we haven't had for example a bomb on July fourth since Independence Day with Will Smith Well first of all it has to be an IED

2:26:30 It could be. What are the movies? IED's in the news so we're going to have to have IEDs in United States of America and it's gonna happen on Independence Day Well let's see what, July 4th movies Let's see what is coming out July 4th This is how we do it by the way July 4th movies Top 10 that's 2012 Can't you just like go Where did you find out when movies are coming You have a subscription to variety or Hollywood Reporter. Yeah, I do of course not Shit it must have expired my Subscription ready for the hunt what's this holiday weekend hangover part 3 fast and furious 6 well we know that yeah Fast and Furious when we haven't kind of something good There's always a big tentpole it comes out on the first day on July 4th. Yeah, of course Of course let's see coming soon here We go this will do it

2:27:31 After Earth. Oh, don't we have the zombie? Can we have the zombie thing coming out Brad Pitt's zombie thing We've got now you see me FBI agent who Interpol detective track a team of illusionists who pull off bank heists The East let's see elite private intelligence firm it's all intelligence Kings of Summer No I don't really see any There has to be there's always a July 4th movie. Yeah, well this and there's tons of let's see June July here We go July okay? It's loading the loan row the drug the drone Ranger Lone Ranger The Drone Ranger comes on what's called alone ranger, but I'm calling all true drone ranger Despicable me

2:28:26 Let me explain the way, way back. Whatever that is... Pacific Rim? Hmm... When an alien attack threatens the Earth's existence giant robots piloted by humans are deployed to fight off the menace Possibly grim yeah, it looks like but that's the 12th and hammer of the gods on the fifth There's actually nothing opening on the fourth. There's there's Kevin Hart let me explain third That's even our nothing can hurt me on the third that's even worse John You know what? That means they got a whopper planned and no one wants their movie getting snowed under Oh exactly

2:29:04 So it will be on the fourth. It might be on the fourth itself, yeah. Better put that... Make a note so we can clip this if it actually happens on the fourth. Damn! Yeah I don't see anything coming. Yeah there's nothing on the fourth that's weird. Hmm okay well that doesn't feel too great No I had a couple if you want. I just had it again We do the emails on Thursday if you want, I got a couple emails to read but maybe It's better if we do that on Thursday yeah Okay as long as we don't get like some huge thing that cuz then so I like reading the emails But then we get some huge event there's always an event It really is isn't it?

2:29:56 Anyway, I just got one clip here. This is Chris Christie being badgered by Matt Lauer the guy who audition for VH1 about if Superstorm Sandy if that wasn't you know because of climate change I got some respect for the dude. This week you said you don't think there's been any proof thus far that Sandy was caused by climate change Several experts, I've heard from say the destruction though from Sandy was probably more severe because of elements of climate change including rising sea levels Are you not willing to say that?

2:30:33 I'm not because, what did they say? First of all this is their business. They study it and they say probably me. All I said was I haven't been shown any definitive proof yet that that's what caused it and this just a distraction. I've got a place to rebuild here if people want to talk about esoteric theories we have plenty of time later on to do that and let me be more informed about it but no I am not going buy things out of whole cloth about them especially when they won't definitively say anything and its there business Matt Lauer's like, this is not what you're supposed to say. This is not fair! It wasn't okay to say Chris Christie just because you fat

2:31:18 Chris Christie is a pretty quick on his feet guy that's going to be, and a great politician in that regard. And he's not going to be the easiest guy in the world to... It's gonna be Christie vs Rand Paul versus the guy in Florida what's-his-name? Jeb Bidiah Oh, well no he's not gonna get in. Rubio? You know the guy that... Rubio! The Cuban guy. Rubio! Rubio yeah, those three are going to be the lead candidates You don't think Jeb is gonna go at all? No I mean unless something falls apart and he can move in at the last minute I did have a clip New Jerseyites, New Jersians they do NOT like Christie

2:32:06 Well in general, but of course these are the the Obama bot friends that I have yeah They don't know no no so. I mean how does he keep getting reelected? Now they hate him now you got a minute again well I think Christie would be pretty interesting Christie is that is the fast talker and and he can use his we can use he can throw his weight around oh So he, but he has the possi- you know the... He's..He would be good in debates. Cause' hes the closest to telling it like it is guy that the public likes and all of his opinions are pretty... You're right and I think we need knowing how... We need a straight talker. We don't want some guy who was being told what to say Yeah yeah I agree. All wishy washy. Yeah its true

2:32:54 But you know it's gonna be four more years and three yeah, three four whatever nine a hundred Whatever the question Republicans are trying to marginalize Chrissy to get him out of the race. They're trying to keep their Rand Pauls It looks like they're guy oh Really? Yeah, I know it's horrible But I think Christie can get in and he's more, he's just a better candidate. He's got the right attitude about things and he is straight shooter. He is not doing the checklist thing And he likes meat Apparently likes meat. A lot of starch too I would guess So are you on twit today?

2:33:37 No, it's a holiday. They don't do the show unlike us Oh really? They don't even have a show on holidays they tend not to do a show on a holiday that you run a rerun usually Really?! How lame is that well that's that's lame what am I gonna do this with my understanding? I'm just have been invited entire month Nick the rat Is not happy with Chris Christie I'm sure Nick is from New York or New Jersey. I'm telling you, yeah obviously he's in with the Goldman Sachs guys. Come on we all know this and we're not promoting a candidate here! What is wrong with you people?

2:34:23 People actually think that we, oh John I'm sorry. You have to understand when we talk like this you know like professionals and who's the better candidate? We're talking producers not as people who care about what happens in the country Oh well yeah when a guy gets in who knows whose really running things Yeah exactly Exactly Ah Well so ill be configuring my PSK mail then perfect Yes, my PSK mail network and I'll be kind of sad because Miss Mickey's off to the airport. She's going to Gitmo Lowlands she's got a huge gallery show which we're all very excited about and so she'll be gone for 10 days So your bed is ready John great I'll be right over I'm not late

2:35:17 If you were a pal, you would come over and hang out. But yeah... Yeah, I would ruin the show. Um Well we wouldn't have to do the show here just come for a couple days and cook with me. Yeah, I could. Yeah but you won't. I'll see what i got for frequent flyer miles Never mind. I'll just have Nick The Rat over Okay well have a great Memorial Day weekend everybody Remember? To be thankful for the war machine that we are That is if you're an American

2:36:01 If you're in the lowlands itself, you have- this is cool. The Dutch Air Force is now from now on to be under control of the German air force Oh really? Yeah They can't afford it anymore so that's I hear you Germans You just run the show It's not a this is not history shows This may not be a good idea but okay up to you. It's the Brussels way everybody Coming to you from the Travis Heights hideout Where with near certainty it is always feasible to capture me I'm Adam Curry, and I say in the morning. You say in the morning? I say in the morning. I'm John C Dvorak We'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on no agenda Hi everybody The best podcast in the universe! Dvorak dot org slash n