Furtive Movement

00:00 Stay on your side of the street and smile! Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. It's Sunday, May 5th, 2013, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 510! This is no agenda. Buenos Dias, a cinco de Mayo! From the Travis Hides Hideout, we're SoCalMes, MoFo in Austin, Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm your Tourette terrorist, Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, uh... where i remain in jesse blackberry a sankara my sankara my idea yeah well we didn't get much action this week in terms of our people help us out because we got blacklisted by the google police well let me just say uh... that uh... it is that uh... first of all i'm looking for a job it is a sad sad state of affairs where we have in exchange for cheap

00:56 trinkets like Chrome and Gmail and Google Docs and all of this crap we have allowed the government because let us be honest Google is the government now police the internet and we're allowing it well I've got a column coming out in PC magazine tomorrow Monday maybe we need to explain what's happening first people should read it well here's what happened there's a injection infection taking place on a lot of WordPress blogs. Now I'm seeing it and it showed up immediately showed up on my blog through some mechanism we still can't identify where it's coming from. I honestly believe it still could be coming from Google since on one of the safe browsing pages it shows that they're infected but that's to be discussed in another venue. Anyway so we got this and so we immediately got blacklisted

01:55 and on the Chrome browser and then we got blacklisted on the Firefox browser which apparently uses the same blacklist now. And the question by the way, just as an aside, let me mention that this is a WordPress exploit. Dvorak.org slash NA is a stagnant page that has nothing to do with my WordPress. Well, let me just take this a little further because while this... and so what happens just so people who haven't seen it, you can probably go to... in fact if this is 2015 you can still probably go to Dvorak.org and see this. And up pops a, in fact, let's just take a look at this. It's not just saying, hey, something could go wrong here. No, no. There is a little drawing, a cartoon of John. It is actually John with his prison stripes crawling through your laptop screen and pressing your keyboard. And the statement, this website contains malware.

02:56 And what's interesting is that when this happened to Dvorak.org, it happened to curry.com, it happened to N.A. Show Notes, it happened to noagendashow.com, and the reason it happened there is because of a simple image that was linked from the Dvorak website, from a static page, just an image on your server. So even an embed, is what that technically is, and that's just an image coming from your website was enough to blacklist my sites, the show site and the show notes site as having malware which is technically not true. Now here's... And NoahJennerShow.com is on Squarespace which is notorious for preventing this stuff. So why would they get blacklisted? Well because... well there's a couple of... first of all

03:52 This is the problem when you let a company be the boss. And so we've, oh, Chrome. And by the way, Chrome is probably the best browser out there when it comes to being fast and not crashing like a bunch of crap like Firefox does all the time. And we as an entire universe have allowed this to happen. It's like the Indians, like the American Indians taking, oh, look at the beads. They're so pretty. Oh a mirror, I can see my face. And now we have this and now they're the boss because apparently... No matter what website you go to, these browsers are reporting back to Command Central, to Google. And wait, let me stop you there. When did we get browser level blacklisting? When did that happen? Well, apparently it's, it's no one... Well, here's the thing that's really sad. Because I was sitting back and watching the emails just stream in. You, by the way, were sitting in your underwear on your chaise lounge, had no idea. I had to call you.

04:51 I was on it when you called. You were on the Shays lounge. I opened up my browser, hey you're DeSites, Block, I'm not Delaware. You were in your Shays lounge. Because you went, oh really? Oh, hold on let me check. No. But here's the thing that is sad. The majority of people that I got email from and very intelligent people because this has nothing to do with being smart or dumb, but it's just understanding of the technology of what's happening actually believe I can still see this in the comments on the posts you put on Dvorak.org slash blog actually believe that the browser is scanning for like some super virus detector and the browser is scanning and looking to make sure that the websites are safe because the minute you know you of course your this exploit was cleaned up and that was and that was taken care of and people are still saying no the browser still reports it as it's a problem

05:54 The browser is not scanning for anything. This is a blacklist. You're on a it's like Schindler's List Screw it. This is this is good. Yeah, you're on the opposite. I'm sorry. Yes, you're on that You're on the Hitler list the Google SSC highs police I shit list and until they decide to take you off which I'm sure you know they're really motivated to do that after you you know say that they're there their toy project is is a hoax and I'm sure they're real motivated to go rushing over to the database. One keystroke could fix this problem. Could fix it. Well, here's what bothers me the most about what you just said.

06:35 They are obviously using the Google bots to find stuff and then they put it on the blacklist. Obviously, they don't do a very good job of it because of my Avast and other virus checkers will find pages constantly that have something on them that it doesn't like and refuses to let me look at it unless I go through a process, which I prefer. I'd rather be told by my own virus checker Because if the page gets fixed and I go back and the virus checker doesn't see anything then well, okay here's here's the page This is the case with Google. They send the robot out. They find a bad page put it on the blacklist and then When the robot goes back out and they see the page is clean, why isn't the blacklist cleaned up in the exact same milliseconds that it was banned? Oh no. Oh no, no. This is, so this is how, this is the thing that, and I should have known when this happened to me. Remember I had the Big App Show app, and it was great. I was doing like a couple thousand dollars a month, and you know, with people, you know, liking the ads that I was, I was actually programming ads in my apps. Like, hey man, this might be something you're interested in.

07:34 Then Google sent me a note and said oh listen. This is clearly click fraud clearly You know you're enticing your audience to to click on these ads say yeah I'm telling this is stuff that's relevant, and they said well you're blacklisted forever You can fill out a form which of course I did and it goes in you know straight into the trash bit bucket dev null I'm I am forever banned from ever using any of Google's ad products ever again There's no way to undo that and this is good. This potentially could go on for months this problem You have of course we're bitching about it. So maybe they'll understand the P. Maybe and what I'm who am I kidding? No, no, no fuck about

08:16 they have no relationships with the press. No, they don't give a crap. They have a little thing called press at google.com and you're supposed to go and they always send you notes back when they rarely send them and it's anonymous. anonymous there they do not interact at all because again who knows I mean they that's just their style and I by the way I also want to call out some people the people on G Google plus that that you know piece of shit that is trying to compete with Facebook and Twitter well hold on people this is John actually mad I just want to point out the John is actually mad now for all the times you weren't short now he's pissed go ahead John

08:53 so i want to call jeff jarvis as a douche bag if you'd hit the button for me of course he writes in there all the time this is a guy who wrote a book on what would google do and he's a professor at one of the new york's colleges fear factories and he says google's he's he's a post he did on the third google's grand gentleman matt cuts refuses to lower himself to the level of John C. Dvorak's narc. Really, John? You think Google would bother itself and risk its reputation to bring revenge upon everyone who ever said anything bad about them? Yeah! Yeah, for sure!

09:41 Is that what Jim Jarvis wrote? Yeah! What an a-hole. And who is this Cuts guy? Because I saw his thing. He's the Google Grand Gentleman. The Grand Gentleman? Is he a dandy? That's what Jarvis calls him. Hey, by the way, now Skype is starting to suck. Could you stop writing columns about these companies, please? We're trying to run a business here. This is not working out for us. So, yeah, I read Kutz's... hold on a second, he wrote something... I mean, these guys basically have become the police. Yes, and that's the question that I'm asking. Why? And how did anyone let this happen? And why are we putting up with it? Okay, so this is what I said. We're putting up with it because we took trinkets of browser crap in exchange, all free. Oh, it's free! And here you go. Now Google is in charge. The only avenue I see left, there's only three things we can do.

10:36 One there's a job opening for director of news and content at Twitter, which I think you and I should consider I Have the job posting here. We should probably look at that to We can become whores Prostitutes I mean like really that would be kind of what I was thinking of and And three, this is really the only thing, there needs to be an independent web browser and maybe that's a Kickstarter project. No, that's a Kickstarter project. You need a hundred million dollars. Seriously, you need a lot of money.

11:14 to really build this and maintain it and you know for 15 years. You have to set up a shop. Oh yeah, that's a real business. I guess Mozilla is out of the picture now. They're just counting Google stuff. But Mozilla does a hundred million dollars a year in payments for making Google the default search. Right. So they're all compromised. All roads lead back to Google. So the only thing that can be done is we need a truly independent browser that has its finance and maybe every 10 years we have to raise another $100 million and otherwise you get what you pay for.

11:52 Oh, I got free email. I got a free browser. It's so great. This is what's going to happen. And pretty soon it's not just going to be some bogative claim of malware. It's going to be, oh, that's hate speech. No, you can't see that website. Oh, that's bullying. No, you can't see that website. No, I agree. That's exactly where this is headed. That's where this is headed. And I'm sure everyone loves it. We're on Schmitt's list, by the way. That's what it is. Not Schindler's. Schmitt's list. Schmitt. Schmitt. Nazi Schmitt. I'll say it. I'll say it. This is very, very dangerous what's happening here. And here we go. Head of News and Journalism. Now there's an opening in San Francisco or New York, but I think we could probably split it. I'm sure Mickey would move to New York with me if we had to eat.

12:42 This is Twitter is playing an integral role in the evolution of the new I mean we might as well just ruin everything should we can't we become head of news and journalism at Twitter you and me together that's That would yeah, that would do it. I love it when When they when they can't even write English in their own job posting you here it is you you will be also Twitter's representative to the news industry You will be also Twitter's representative to news industry. They have computers writing their job descriptions now. You will be also base belong to us.

13:18 How can they put that out there for the news and journalism job posting you will be also Twitter's representative to the news industry Apparently they should be hiring copy editors So yeah, so of course just like when you have a bandwidth problem Or when you have a DNS issue as it's propagating throughout the internet. It hurts. It always, always hurts. And I got a lot of emails from people saying, you know, hey, I can't donate because I'm afraid that I'm going to get infected. And those are the stagnant pages which really dulls me. Static is what it is. Well, they're stagnant too. I have to update them more often. You are technically correct. Stagnant. They're stagnant pages. So I set up donate.curry.com and so I sucked down the donation page and I still had to remove the word Dvorak.

14:20 You know, I was kept trying to find out why is it still popping up? Couldn't it so that was a page hosted on Amazon's s3 you can't get more stagnant than that and But I had it was still referring to an image the night the the night shield image which is was hosted on your stagnant server and and it was throwing up the the malware thing Yeah, and now by the way, I'm also Being listed as infected you're not getting yeah, you passed on your your your Google aids to me man fuck off with that. This is this is so bad. This is really it's sad It's just sad. It's just well. What's really bad about it is the now that you mentioned these anomalies which make zero sense and

15:05 you have a very obviously an incompetent operation going on that is ruining things. Let's point out a couple things about Google and all this free stuff. They seem to be a company, I didn't think this at first but I'm starting to notice a little bit like my Microsoft, where they get something going like Gmail. Gmail was the leader of the free email operations. They suck a lot of people into it, tons. It became the dominant player. And then they let it just stagnate. It hasn't been updated, except they put this little JavaScript thing in the corner, where when you compose a message it's actually screwier than it used to be. And it jumps around and has all these issues. And it's just a piece of crap.

15:54 and compared to everything else and they don't seem to care which because you could they got their people in it and they're done I think the search engine is probably maybe the guys at Microsoft are corrected well and and and let me just put can you try something for me can you turn turn down or do in put less output of the mic into Skype because whenever you really modulate it just it breaks up and and it's usually doesn't do that let me turn me down just a just a tad maybe not too much well I don't know we'll have to find give me some level Yes, dang! Yeah, okay. Um... Alright now now here's here's the here's the worst part of it this so-called malware this horrible hidden frame Right was not going to necessarily Go in and eat up your computer registry or install a keylogger or whatever. It's an SEO hack Okay, and it's for some like organic bullcrap stuff. That is really it's a hack against Google so that this product will show higher in rankings and

16:53 So Google is not protecting you not protecting your computer certainly not protecting your server John your your WordPress But it's protecting their business. That's what that's what's going on here, and they're spying on you They're spying on every single page you go to Chrome is reporting back to home base checking to see if it's okay to talk to these pages Do you understand the significance of that? Did people really get what's going on here and the crazy apparently the answer to that is no But the crazy thing is only we can change this I mean they don't own the internet, but they certainly own the experience with these browsers and of course Mozilla is completely compromised. We know now because they're they're calling from the same database They take a hundred million dollars a year from from Google so done. They're compromised and

17:49 We need a true independent consortium that will have to be funded by people who give a crap and otherwise enjoy. I mean, personally, I'm going back to Lynx. I mean, the Lynx browser rocks. And I got my ham radio license, so at the end of the day, I'm good. I'm golden. Yeah, I may start using Linux in Conqueror. Conqueror? What? another obscure browser. There's a bunch of them out there. Yeah. So anyway. So anyway, so that's how we're screwed for until they fix this and they're gonna take their sweet time because they can put you on the blacklist in a millisecond but they can't the same mechanism can't seem to take you off the blacklist for unless you yeah the other thing is they want you to go to webmaster tools which is a Google product and file a request for a scan. They want you to chain and add a DNS record

18:47 Did you see this? No, I didn't see that one. Oh yeah, you have to add to prove that it's your domain, prove, you have to add a DNS text record, TXT, because they're doing, they also want control of DNS. If people don't, people are like, yeah, Google's DNS servers are great. It's simple to remember, 8.8.8.8, it's great, oh, Google's great. Yeah, keep doing that, slaves. Keep doing that, because they're taking over. And just like people are now finally discovering, and even that, and by the way people who don't care, you don't deserve anything. Oh hey it's funny, on Facebook not everyone sees when I update. No, Facebook is deciding what of your posts are going to be seen by who, unless you pay them $7.

19:34 That's when you know that they'll and even then you're not sure that showing it to everybody. This is what's next with Google You're gonna get DNS redirects You're gonna get pages that just either won't work or you get you know One of these little prison little little thief in a prison outfit with his hand reaching through I mean this is That is truly... Go back and look at some of the Nazi propaganda about Jews. That is what is on that page, John. That is an anti-Jew propaganda piece from Google. I'm sorry. Look at it. Do you remember? Of course you do. But do you remember the Nazi propaganda against Jews? They had them in... Like the thieves and prisoners in the night and they had little cartoons? Yeah. That's what that is. Vaguely. That's what that is. Look at it.

20:23 Yeah, it's pretty onerous in a funny, in a kind of light-hearted way. It's not funny, it's not light-hearted because they literally are calling you and your website, um, calling you a thief. Not just malware, it's a thief. There's a thief and you're reaching through someone's screen and you're touching their keyboard. I'm sorry, I take this stuff very seriously. Words matter, drawings matter even more. Anyway... Well, you know, it's a, the operation is just that you know idealistically we won't do evil and all the rest of the crap you know it's just completely off the track. Yeah. And but still go it just stuns me that it's gotten this far with the Google police running the blacklist browser level blacklist this is not a corporate blacklist it's not a blacklist from the country of China on incoming traffic this is a browser level right at the very top right in your face blacklist run by Google

21:24 Not an independent operation by any means It and no one has said anything a bitched about this no no and but it's worse people I mean when the when the internet first came along everybody and their sister was moaning about advertisement there was you know there was like oh No, I got I got a hey curry your MTV calm get off man. You're ruining the web you really ruining the internet, well yeah. Yeah and there's some little event that takes place in a foreign country and everyone changes their twitter icons green or blue or purple or whatever. That all takes place but nobody cares at all that Google now owns the web essentially. They own it, they totally own it. Done. They own it. Over. Yeah and you kowtow to them or you F off.

22:14 Yeah, and this is another reason I think Jarvis wrote a book of you know what would Google do which deifies Google if the title doesn't It would slam me out of the blue with with an unnecessary post With his I guess his buddy Matt cuts Google's Grand Gentleman, I mean it's disgusting. Hey will you call me back? It's really hard. This is it's gonna It's getting a little tough to talk once you call me all right What shall I call you? That's the next thing that started to suck is then we got Microsoft screwing up with Skype. It's like everything also quick. Well everything that's good, you know, corporations come in and screw up. When are we going to figure this out? When are we going to say, oh, it's like, you know, it's like everyone's like, wow, I can't wait for Google Fiber coming to Austin. Screw that. Screw it. I don't want your Google Fiber.

23:11 What so you can just cut more stuff off? Lock me out when you feel like it? Isn't this what net neutrality is supposed to thwart? I mean I'm all for security and I'm all for, you know, if I feel that, you know, I'm worried about what's happening with my computer, I can install software from companies I think I can trust. I don't trust them either by the way. But I think it's a little Overbearing that we've allowed Google to really just do whatever I didn't ask for this. I can't turn it off Are you still there? Yeah? And Jeff Jarvis on your side. Yeah, not Jeff Jarvis He should be ashamed of himself for writing that he's probably on the take well You know we make sense God. I mean, what's the white? Why is all of a sudden he defending Google? Oh?

24:11 Yeah, who died and made him their fairy godmother. The head of Google. Head of Google. Google doesn't even bother to defend itself. It doesn't need to. Now I know I never get letters back from the press at google.com. Yeah, well certainly not letters, maybe an email, but I wouldn't be going to the mailbox. So what's your column going to be about? It's just the title is, Who made, when did Google become the internet police? That's the title. Well, and then I bitch about what happened and I have a few point pointers to here and there and then I don't I'm gonna pray I do a follow-up call moaning about this stuff that you just brought up about the linked photos Yeah, yeah, which will probably on Wednesday or Thursday and then and I asked the question I'm asking you which is why where's the tech community? Oh, no. No, the tech community is afraid because they all want to be hired by Google. Oh

25:05 You see, this is how it works. And if they're not being hired by Google, they're probably where the money is working in SEO and they don't want to get blacklisted by Google, you know, because you don't want your name out there. You got to be flying under the radar. The true the true tech community is like us eating mac and cheese, brother. Is the people who are vocal, no one's gonna be vocal about this, they're afraid. This is no different from celebrities or royalty, people like Jeff Jarvis, you know, and by the way, where's Stallman on this? What the hell, just sucking Google's cock, sucking a cock. That's one way of putting it. Okay, well that's my Tourette's speaking, but that's my emotional side. Yeah, don't forget ladies and gentlemen, he has Tourette's. Well there was some news.

25:54 Besides us. We should have a disclaimer at the beginning, before the show starts, like an insert. Warning, this program contains language spoken by a sufferer of Tourette's syndrome. Do not be offended, he's just ill. So we do have some news besides us. Although it's a good news item, seems to me. Yeah, well, okay. I think we're done. Before, you know, I just wanted to say one other thing while we're on big companies. I'd like to say something to Amazon. Amazon.com, Jeff Bezos, I thought you really knew me and I've, you know, I know you try to send me offers about products and services based upon, you know, what I've read or what I watched or, you know, things that I've bought, but please,

26:53 Stop sending me Mother's Day advertisements. She's been dead for six years! Yeah, that's bad. Yeah, it's insulting. That's very insulting, Jeff Bezos. I hate that. Don't you hate that? I know you get it. Your mom's passed. Yeah. And I said this to Mickey this morning. She's like, yeah, I get that too. It's hurtful. You know, it's like, what the hell? Just reminding people that their mothers died in some sick way. What's sick? I'm telling you and they're supposed to know so much. I mean you you think that I need the strawberry flavored condoms Yeah, you don't know my mom is dead. Please get with my program. Yeah, what does it take to tick off a box? Yeah, really? I mean, I'll even do a survey is anyone your family dead. Yes mother no

27:51 Maybe you can do a time release on some other family members and then And then they just won't send me that it's like you don't want to hurt me every single time this bad last chance for Mother's Day No, no, I don't have a last chance for that and worse that I'm like, oh maybe I should send something to my ex-wife because she's the mother of my kid now you really got my brain messed up. It's like I don't want to send anything to anybody stupid Yeah, well, drawback of all this crap. Obviously, this is much more important than Israel nuking Syria, clearly. Because we made no money. So we just thank our executive producer? Yes, our one executive producer came in on this Sanco de Mayo. Not even associate?

28:40 No, well he, no the rule is that if you're at associate level but nobody's higher than you, the highest associate gets executive producer. Oh, okay. I would read the rules but I'm sorry there's a little... I've said this rule over and over again. So Joshua Dale, Esquire, Sir Joshua to U of Monte Rio, California, sending 250 bucks, he's our only executive producer. He's the got DUI help dot com guy. Oh lawyer that handles I guess cases. I know his number here in Texas. It's like seven seven seven seven seven seven Well, that'd be easy to remember says working on a second knighthoods just getting by by eating by eating Annie's organic shells and white cheddar

29:21 And he would love a kiki science mumble Leo science and LG y oh wow okay kiki science mumble Leo science and LG y already science That was pretty good. Yeah, it wasn't bad. I do have another possible science. It may have to be clipped a little bit, but I have on my clips, science is everything. This was taken from a piece of crap movie that I have a list of it here somewhere. I'll get the name of it, but play it. I've studied it, but I don't comprehend the science.

30:09 What if it's not science? What if it's something bigger than science? Science is everything. Am I still your favorite subject? You know, I had a conversation. We were at Halcyon on Saturday. And by the way, like everybody showed up this weekend. It was just crazy. Like this Gene Baron de Marriott, the sheriff of Texas. We had Mike, the producer Mike show up. We just all get oh and My Obama bought friends from the dinner who by the way Now keep like chiding me. It's like oh, I'm sorry was that to Obama bot that I said just there And by the way as a Lori Frick she has an art show in San Francisco, and she really wants you to come and

31:01 She really wants you to come. She says she guarantees cheap Chardonnay and plastic glasses. That sounds right. She knows the drill. I said, I'll ask, I'll ask. She's a big fan. She's like a huge fan. Like, will only listen to Twit when you're on it type fan. So anyway, so everyone's stopping by. We're talking about science. And I think what happened the psyche Somewhere along though. I think it's the when a lot of people start believing or you know, we kind of moved in the in the media from creationism to The theory of evolution, you know that so we have evolution is science and and everything else is bullcrap. Apparently you can't believe in anything else and

31:49 And that's where this science thing comes from. So if you don't believe, you know what I'm saying, John? It's kind of hard for me to put into words, but it's like science is now the basis of everything and fact is science and science is fact. And everything else is a crazy guy sitting on the cloud up in the sky. And it's being misused everywhere. About science and it being fact and the worst of course is when someone says most scientists agree That's when you can stand in their face and say that is then not science. It's not Consensus is not science

32:35 No, I mean this is a huge problem that's hard to resolve because they've set up the structure. I think they've done a wonderful job of setting up the structure. In fact, we had a clip about a year and a half ago and you might be able to look it up. It's a Chris Matthews clip where he's grilling some... I usually burn those after the show. Well, you probably be doing the right thing. but anyway he's belittling some schlub who is on the show who apparently is a creationist and he may or may not be a creationist I mean the latest creationist evolutionist kind of combo. It doesn't make any difference but he was just giving the guy crap and then he went to a rant about why the Republicans are so screwed up because they don't believe in science. Oh wait a minute, maybe I have, let's see, I have a couple of them that didn't get on the, let's see if it's this one. Michelle Bachmann of course is no stranger to conspiracy theories. That may not be it, that's him about conspiracy theories.

33:35 Maybe... Do you know what it would be titled? Do you know what it would be called? No. Here's my list of Chris Matthews scripts. Chris Matthews botch, Chris Matthews guns, Chris Matthews it's racist, Chris Matthews CIA does, Chris Matthews douchebag one, Chris Matthews evokes Hitler, Chris Matthews Jeopardy, Chris Matthews Idiots, Chris Matthews, Chris Matthews Conspiracy, Matthews Bachmann is Kooky, Matthews Ron Reagan Jr. Well try the one.

34:15 And douchebag one look the more control we give into the UN its control we're taking or we're losing u.s. Sovereignty, how's that work? But first no explain in this case how that let me give you out in this case, okay? As you said before in the u.s. We have made great progress with people with disabilities Rick, and I don't think that's it But I do like it as a show title douchebag one. That's kind of interesting Douchebag one to douchebag two Douchebag 2, douchebag 2, I'm coming in, I'm coming in! Hey, by the way, in the morning to you, John C. Duborak. In the morning to you, Adam Curry, in the morning to all the ships at sea, the boots on the ground, the subs in the water, the feet in the air, and all the dames and knights out there. Yes, and in the morning to all of our human resources in the chatroom there at noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net, and I guess I would like to, now, I

35:09 I know what you are like, but you got columns and other stuff, you got kids working for you, but I need the money, so the alternative page is donate.curry.com. Of course, that doesn't fit in our jingle. But you can also rest assured that you can click on the advanced, it's not even a button, where it says advanced when you get this thief page and then proceed at your own risk and you can get to the donation page. Please, we're 40% of what we normally get. Maybe even 37% or something.

35:52 Yeah, no, we lost probably two-thirds of our sales. Sales? Yeah. How's inventory doing, John? Inventory is... we're way overstocked. Overstocked? Totally overstocked! We're gonna have to have a sale. We got a sale on reality right here, people. Yeah, so please help us and so donate.currie.com or Dvorak.org slash na and you know just ignore ignore the the danger to your health warnings. It makes me so mad. We really we really do need the help and I need to send some karma out. I think I jinxed the poor guy. Sir Andrew Gardner, No Agenda Racing Team.

36:36 My god, he wrecked out on this thing. He crashed crashed in Jersey. Yeah But what but what is cool is I got the video in the show notes What's cool is he has telemetry? so he has the an onboard camera on his bike and he has the telemetry of the track in the left-hand corner and it says like no agenda racing calm and it shows his speed and The guys do like 150 miles on corners. Yeah, I know. That type of racing is wild. So some douchebag passed him on the straight inside and then stood on his brake in the turn.

37:13 So Sir Andrew like you know he hit the bros into him. No, no, but he he he he dumped the bike. Yeah, he says he's it's funny because then you see him like limping in the in the back. I was not funny. Yeah, well you fall off a bike at those speeds you and that hurts. Yeah, it hurts. It hurts. So yeah, so we're anyway you can find that in the PR you can find his video and I want to send him a little special car. He certainly deserves that. You've got karma. And while we're at it, we might as well ask you to go out and do something extremely important, which is propagate the formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Hey, Jeff Jarvis, suck this, bitch! Shut up, snake.

38:05 That's the Tourette's I can't help it. I don't know what to do. Yeah, you better get some medicine Hey, and so can I tell you something about this? What so someone? Hold on a second. This is actually quite funny. So there's this big piece on I think it might have been Maybe was ABC. Mmm. I don't think was ABC. It's about the well here's the yeah, I'll play the intro and there's something really funny that pops in this that relates to my mental condition Hello everyone. Thanks for joining us tonight for millions of Americans the sight of a policeman instills a sense of calm faith that order is being kept that the good guys are watching but for many others

38:51 Thousands stopped on the streets of New York because they look or act a certain way. Encounters with the blue and white breed fear, frustration and anger at a force that some say is bent more on intimidation than serving and protecting. So here's my co-anchor, Bill Weir. It's the kind of scene that could play out on any given day in any city in America. Men in blue stopping young men of color as tensions rise. In this case a robbery suspect is caught. Listen to me, you're not free to leave. Am I under arrest? Turn around right now. What am I being arrested for? I didn't do anything wrong!

39:29 The others released and the cops managed to keep it by the book. I understand you're upset but I'm sorry for the inconvenience. But this scene is just pretend. It is an NYPD training drill to reinforce a proper way to do what is known as a 250. That controversial tactic designed to stop crime before it happens. Controversial because critics say 250s rarely happen with this much courtesy and this much probable cause. Before it's a crime! It's pre-crash. So the story goes on for about 10 minutes and it's about the search and stop and frisk policy of the New York City Police, which of course is profiling. It is arguably unconstitutional and it's a real pain in the ass because today it's black men between 14 and 21 and tomorrow it's going to be you. This is how it usually goes in police states.

40:28 whatever you use are. So they bring out the councilman for one of the boroughs in New York and he says something really interesting that just tells me is all over. New York City Councilman Jumaane Williams is a mentor of Kassim's and a leading critic of the NYPD's methods, like police reports which show that the reason given for most stops is either a high-crime neighborhood or a suspect engaged in furtive movement. I have Tourette's syndrome, so all I do is make furtive movements. So, you know, that means I can be stopped every time I come out of my house. There you go, furtive movements, John.

41:05 he our friend our councilman from New York has Tourette's syndrome and so like me he has furtive movements all the time and and this can get you arrested in New York City now so I'm looking up what can you do about Tourette's because this is clearly I have to I have to be medicated and I find the DSM-IV Before you go, I'm gonna go right back to that. I gotta read the definition of furtive. Thank you. Adjective attempting to avoid notice or attention typically because of guilt or belief that discovery would lead to trouble. That's right. Suggested of guilty nervousness. So if I'm like twitching my head going fuck Jarvis, fuck Jarvis, that you should be arresting me.

41:58 Tourette's syndrome TS or Tourette's disorder is a complex neuropsychiatric disorder characterized by a changing pattern of motor and vocal tics that begin in childhood and mine did by the way when I was six or seven Many individuals with Tourette syndrome have associated non-tick symptoms such as hyperactivity, distractibility, impulsivity, obsessions and compulsions, anxiety, depression and anger control. These associated symptoms may occur in patterns of frequently or intensity characteristic of an additional Coexisting disorder such as attention deficit hyperactivity disorder obsessive-compulsive disorder or Oppositional defiant disorder there it is whether these problems aren't in school to you that would be me Medication and this is the one that freaked me out. I had no idea So when symptoms are mild should we may include only support education and monitoring? I think I need some monitoring and

43:05 For symptoms that produce significant distress or inpatient, medication treatment may be indicated. Currently, there are a variety of medications available for the treatment. I'll bet there are. By the way, hell with doing research on new antibiotics. Yeah, this is where the money is. Here it is. Clonidine. Do you know what clonidine is? No. You're going to tell me. The brand name is Catapress. C-A-T-A-P-R-E-S. or Guanfacine, for that I can get Tenex, but the best is Risperdal or traditional such as Haldol.

43:49 Oh, you're kidding. No! You can't take hell, doll. That's not for anybody. Whenever my tongue gets all twisted, it'll stop my head twitching. Crisper doll is for schizophrenics. Yeah, that's what I should... Treat schizophrenia and certain problems caused by bipolar. In other words, it just knocks you on your butt. Yeah. It doesn't do anything except knocks you out. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're not gonna... People searching for Risperdal also search for Zyprexa, Seroquel, Abilify, Caldol, and Clozaril. Abilify is just hamburger helper, right? That just makes it all... It's like an amplifier. You add it to everything.

44:42 Respiratory may treat schizophrenia, bipolar, dementia, autism and Tourette's syndrome. Exactly. Someone in the chat room said I should be diagnosed with a real doll is what I should be given. I agree. I think screw Haldol. Real doll. Real doll. Send me one of those. People are in that chat room. I own one. I have three real dolls. I've collected all three. You're a hoarder. Do you have Ginger? Do you also have Tommy? I haven't been to that site for a long time.

45:25 I'm getting curious because I know the last time I was there a couple years ago it's highly entertaining. Real doll. I've always thought it would be the world's finest love doll. I've always thought since these dolls are so realistic they're also pretty expensive which includes me. They're like $5,000 aren't they? Six now. So but in terms of the carpool There's no way you couldn't put two of these dolls inside your car and it would look like two women. The problem is they're so good looking for mannequins that you would... I think the best bet is to go to one of the Macy's or some department store that closes, grab a couple mannequin heads and then stick them on some... make your own damn doll and put the head on there and put it in the car and then go through the carpool lane. So I'm looking at the website and there's this

44:42 Respiratory may treat schizophrenia, bipolar, dementia, autism and Tourette's syndrome. Exactly. Someone in the chat room said I should be diagnosed with a real doll is what I should be given. I agree. I think screw Haldol. Real doll. Real doll. Send me one of those. People are in that chat room. I own one. I have three real dolls. I've collected all three. You're a hoarder. Do you have Ginger? Do you also have Tommy? I haven't been to that site for a long time.

45:25 I'm getting curious because I know the last time I was there a couple years ago it's highly entertaining. Real doll. I've always thought it would be the world's finest love doll. I've always thought since these dolls are so realistic they're also pretty expensive which includes me. They're like $5,000 aren't they? Six now. So but in terms of the carpool There's no way you couldn't put two of these dolls inside your car and it would look like two women. The problem is they're so good looking for mannequins that you would... I think the best bet is to go to one of the Macy's or some department store that closes, grab a couple mannequin heads and then stick them on some... make your own damn doll and put the head on there and put it in the car and then go through the carpool lane. So I'm looking at the website and there's this

46:16 My god, it's- the worst part is that you actually kind of get aroused just by looking at it. Oh, they got male dolls now! He's 5'9"! Holy crap! Michael, Nick, and Nate! Michael Knit Big. Wow! He's 5 foot 9? Hey, the new Body C is available now. Spring Special. $500 off all Real Dolls. Big news! The time doll is now estimated at 8 weeks for any Real Doll. Real Doll 2, male or female, or Wicked Real Doll. I think we should make Real Dolls of us. I think that's not disgusting, that would look.

46:58 Now with micro penis! Okay, alright. So, um, but of course the one in bondage, the bondage one is, so this, so this flows 5, 10, 90 pounds, 34, 24, 34, a cup, Small three or five size. I buy your shoes stop stop already So this flows nicely into this article in the New York Times, which appeared I think Saturday suicide rates rise sharply in the US and it was very interesting that you know, so suicide rates are up and they this whole times article really misses two important points

47:47 You know, because it's like, oh well, you know, could be a number of things. Middle-aged men seem to be killing themselves more. Who cares, by the way? If middle-aged women, if more middle-aged women were killing themselves, oh, you wouldn't hear the end of it. But it's middle-aged dudes? Who cares? Screw them. Hillary's going to be the next president anyway. We don't need these guys. But the comments on this article, it's heartbreaking. Because it truly is... so the article is bullcrap, but then you read the comments and people like, yeah, well because, you know, we're broke, we have huge debt, we can't see the end, and we just freak out and then we shoot ourselves. Which is the prime way, by the way. A lot of people... hanging still seems to be pretty popular in the suicide arena, which I don't understand. That makes no sense to me.

48:44 And then the other two that are in the comments but not in the article really is, well how about all this Haldol, Risperdal, Realdol that were being prescribed. No wonder people are killing themselves. And the third of course is, you know... Correct. There's no way you can take these sorts of drugs that screw up your brain so much and never fully recover Yeah, especially if you're on a long-term regimen, you're just gonna kill yourself. Yeah, eventually and of course we have the veterans coming home coming home and they're messed up because didn't you know that's Let me start it on that that's it's gonna be a real problem for the next decades decades Now these veterans they need to talk man. They need they need they need love and

49:35 They really do. This is... Didn't we do this already? Didn't this happen with Vietnam? Didn't... you know... Yeah, we ended up with a bunch of homeless Vietnam vets crawling the streets yacking to themselves. You know, whenever... I talked to... there's a guy on the South Congress and sometimes he's in his fatigues with a flag. I talk to these people because that's all they really want. They just... they need to tell their story, you know? So I'm going to interrupt right here and I want to mention that last show we had a we read net instead of gross. In other words what people gave us we read the amount that we ended up getting from pay which is somewhat less. And I want to we did correct it on the show notes where you have our executive associate executive producers listed.

50:27 I want to just mention who they are. Kathy Beauchamp, John White is the associate executive. We have a couple of executives, Melody Ma and Sir Doug came in at 333-333. And Thomas Badrich Was a member of the 509 club and I read it on the yes if you go to the show if you can get on the site Yeah, see if Google will allow you to let you go on to the no agenda show calm which is a square Square space blog if they will allow you to go to that blog of within there if you can get in there good graces Maybe they will maybe just send him a love letter. Yeah, I

51:05 So it's donate.curry.com along with... devorek.org slash N A Just ignore the guy in the prison suit hacking your computer. Um... Now by the way, this happened, this was just staying on the... On the pharmaceutical topic and illness topic and how this Did you ever see that movie was it Gattaca? What's that the name of the movie where it was got a really new age II black and white? Yeah. Yeah, it was a crazy movie right? Yeah, it goes crazy crazy movie, but that people are called invalid Invalid and then you know, you're basically thrown in the in the I think they throw them in the oven or something Well, yeah anyway, you're in so not an invalid but an invalid. Oh

51:48 Invalid so that's what I am Totally and so is a well this is one of my he has a different type of externally visible disease in the UK the the story here is pretty funny that I got from the BBC's verbal abuse and feel isolated in public Mark had an extreme case of his illness being misunderstood. This is a guy with Parkinson's disease. The Olympics last year. It happened as he was about to watch the cycling road race. I sat on the wall, minding my own business, and as the cycle race approached, I was grabbed by two police officers.

52:27 One of the officers said words to the effect of, you're not going to ruin anybody's day-to-day sunshine. I'm arresting you on suspicion of, I think the charge was about to cause a public offence or public affray or public disorder act or something like that. Because, and this is the best bit, I've been watching you, you haven't been smiling. I've got Parkinson's. And you've been fidgeting a lot. That's because I have Parkinson's. Then of course I started shaking and the guy goes, it's alright mate, it's the nerves kicking in. And I'm going, I've got Parkinson's! They're not listening to me. Mark was held for several hours before being released without charge.

53:09 And the poor guy's shaking, and you're not smiling, slave! Yeah, no, I'm glad you got this clip because this happened a couple weeks ago. Yeah. And I was aware of it, and it is the same as the guy wasn't smiling. So in other words, this was at the Boston thing, the guy's, oh, this guy wasn't smiling. So now we're required to, we go to some piece of crap bicycle race or whatever it is, and it's blocking the streets. And you know, you gotta stay on the sidewalk. You can't cross because oh, no, you can't get over there. So you can't cross the street to go to the other side. Maybe that's all you want to do. Smile, slave! And you're not smiling. Now this is a crime. Yeah. Hey, stay on your side of the street and smile. Oh, wait a minute. That is 54 minutes. Let me just write that down. Stay on your side of the street and smile, slave! You know that, uh,

54:03 One of our producers came up to me here in Austin, I'm not going to say who it was, and he said, you know, sometime, you know, two or three weeks ago when we were talking like this, he said, you made me cry. He said, you made me cry, I was listening to the show and you made me cry because I thought, Oh, this is like, it's hopeless. It's hopeless. That's where you're supposed to be smiling. So, you know, because it's so hopeless, that's what makes it so great. That's what makes it a great time to be alive. Well, it's pretty funny if you have a sense of humor. Well, because the people who listen to this... And if the cops aren't beating your head in with a club. There's that. Smile, you son of a bitch!

54:46 But it's so it's it's a great time to be alive and and not one of the zombies you know it's like when is when you go to see a zombie movie so if you saw zombie land for instance or If you watch The Walking Dead on I was at TMC or is it TNT whatever it is You watch that as a non zombie and so it's fun right and you're like oh man here they come I know what to do with Al's new to the head So, this is the... it's a metaphor for the life you're living now because you are awake and you can look around you and you can know that there are tens, maybe hundreds of other people who listen to this show. Why, there's tens of hundreds of people listening to this show who are like you and awake and know what's going on. And you know, you can actually find each other. There are more of you in the same state, sometimes in the same town.

55:39 This yeah, we have a we would we have what's called a reach. Yeah reach around maybe Well, so there's this study. There's a study that's out and this and this is a great study And it's it's freaking it's freaking people out and I'm seeing it everywhere and of course the funniest is when you have that Pierce Moron talking about it So, the study from some universities says that 29% of all Americans, so not just crazy Republican rednecks or the actual people who have guns, which is African-Americans, according to the survey says, have 54% of all guns, legally owned.

56:26 But no, so 29% of all Americans fully expect an armed revolution will be necessary in the coming years in the United States. And this is freaking people out. There's a poll that has come out. This is a Fairleigh Dickinson University poll. It says that 29% of Americans agree with the statement that in the next few years an armed revolution might be necessary in order to protect our liberties. An additional 5% were unsure about that. So a third of Americans genuinely believe they need to be armed to possibly rise up against some form of tyranny. Why? Because that is the fundamental basis of American freedom. That has always been the fundamental basis. Where would the tyranny come from? The tyranny would come from the government. Barack Obama's government? No, not Barack Obama's government. I don't believe that Barack Obama is a tyrannical leader. So whose government? Well, I couldn't name you a name, but it's not a matter of who is in charge, it's a question of what the government does. Would you personally believe, like a third of these people, that you will need in the next few years, it says, you will need to have weapons to take on your own government?

57:25 I don't believe in the next few years. I believe that there is always the possibility of government tyranny. I don't see that happening in the next couple of years. I do think, Pierce, I have to say, I think the reason that there are so many folks who are talking about the possibility of government tyranny is threefold, really. It's the Obama administration's increasing reliance on big government, and that I think threatens some people. i think that it is folks like alex jones who do this routine where every time they shut down a city like boston because of a terrorist attack it's the end of the world and military laws at hand and honestly i think part of it is due to folks like you pierce because you know you go out of your way to to really give the impression that you that you're interested in taking away people's fundamental right to bear arms and i think that scares a lot of folks. Well no, I'm not, we've discussed this, I'm not remotely against people having the right to bear arms, I'm seriously against the right to have military style assault weapons to blow kids

58:11 brains to pieces in school. By the way that's how they're marketed I think. And of course we always have to remind our listeners that the gun that was used to kill the kids at the school in Newtown was not an AR-15. It was a pistol. Oh but wait, he does touch on that. I still don't understand your position on this because you've said you're against assault weapons but you are okay with handguns. Handguns kill 6,000 people a year. Assault weapons kill 300. Well they're both a big problem. Why don't we just go for the- And assault weapons with mass shootings. You're from the UK, why don't we just go with a full gun ban? Well, listen, listen, we've discussed this. The UK has 40, 50 gun murders a year. Right. America has 12,000. Why don't we try our way? Let's move on to this. I'm glad you finally, uh, you finally let your agenda out there. I don't have an agenda. I just want to make America safe and save lives. No! Piers, more and more, he wants to make America safe and save your life.

58:59 So what an idiot but but that I find it to be a very interesting statistic at 29% and he hadn't surprised me But I want you a little history here wait before you give me the history which I'm very interested in I just want to give you one more data point at the dinner We had because I forgot to mention this the dinner right yet another dinner. Well. No not this dinner. Oh, well. I'll get to that dinner I feel bad No, it's okay. The other dinner, remember when Mickey brought up her gun? Yeah. And I said, oh, I've got an AR-15 upstairs with a military-style assault weapon with a large high-capacity magazine.

59:43 Here's the ding ding ding ding ding right, but here's what this is what gets interesting which shows the The the weakness of people who are like oh, I'm against guns We got to get rid of the guns the first thing they always say and I've heard this many times is well I know where to come when the shit hits the fan and And I thought, that's so interesting. What? Yeah, and try it yourself. When you're with someone who is staunchly against guns, and is really on board with the whole, let's get rid of all the guns, and you say, well, I happen to have an armory, and I'm quite prepared for anything that might happen, nine times out of ten, that very same person will say, well, at least I know where to go when the shit hits the fan.

1:00:32 uh... interesting makes sense it makes it a and that's a yeah and i'll know what target i have to hit this is the coming up to you as you're coming up my driveway so but i don't want to be very hypocritical but yet very interesting yeah well i i'd you see this is the thing i had we've said this before i talk about this one my thesis which is people with contradictory information in their brains i think is an unhealthy thing yes this is like people who are You know, they're pro-abortion and they're anti-death penalty. This is the classic liberal versus conservative. Yeah, right. It makes no sense. No guns, but let's kill those Boston bombers off with their heads. Yes.

1:01:14 It's kind of contradiction, contradiction in the brain I think causes all kinds of weird problems and the conservative one of course is you know right to life and let's kill everyone that's in jail. I mean it's like we, life is precious so let's kill criminals. I mean it just makes zero sense that these but they're both both these groups are that way and but a back to the the thirties which is our last really big depression had some issues in the seventies up isn't obviously it was it's similar to what we're going to now uh... there was a in the there my father used to tell me about this is a depression guy and uh... people have had or all of that date people that went to the original depression in the thirties not the original as one of the two fifty seven and go on uh... they'll tell you this is the government was about to collapse

1:02:01 I mean there was talk of a revolution and it was not that far off and they tried to actually the Democrats had tried to get Roosevelt, we've talked about this before, a butler, General Butler was supposed to become the next president. Smedley, right? And they were just one inch away and nobody ever filed charges against these people for treason. They're in Congress and Senate. Anyway, they, my father said there was all kinds, there was socialists that were going to take over the country, there were, you know, fascism was thought fondly of, could have taken over the country, they were going to try to oust Roosevelt. It was, it was, he believed that during the Depression there were moments where the government could have been over,

1:02:43 were thrown completely. And so this kind of thing happens when there's no jobs. Right. And nobody seems to care about that. And they will. And then again, by my own thesis, this is a cycle. So there's nothing they can do about it. But that's another story. Right. But it's interesting you bring up Smedley Butler because he is the guy that would not be. And, you know, I was reading an article how this came about. But you identified that the president said You know, oh ha ha ha ha, Michelle actually did consider why don't we just let Adelson buy me out for a hundred million dollars and I'll go away, right?

1:03:20 Yes, so but that is kind of a throwback to the you know to what to the days of Smedley Butler when there was a real plot for a coup to take over the United States and And he essentially thwarted that But I think it kind of happened. I mean if you really look at the military-industrial complex It's all the jobs really in civil society are military jobs. You may be making a transistor or a tube, but believe me, at the end of the day, most of that stuff is going towards the military. And I think maybe there's just a whole other

1:04:03 thing running the nation. Well we do have the thought, one thought which I'm a subscriber to is that we became a security state under the Truman administration once they put in the CIA and then they ratcheted up the secret police and all kinds of things like that even though they were never called secret police. And then we had, you know, and then that was wasn't hurt by Hoover who stayed in office until he died. And then, of course, there's a story which is when Hoover's dying, apparently they shredded half of the FBI headquarters. But, you know, there's a lot of information that we don't we'll never have access to. You know what this what the here's the here's the weird thing, though, as I take this process and actually here's what the president said the other day when he did his press conference. Jonathan Karl.

1:04:52 Mr. President, you are 100 days into your second term. On the gun bill, you put, it seems, everything into it to try to get it passed. Obviously it didn't. Congress has ignored your efforts to try to get them to undo these sequester cuts. There was even a bill that you threatened to veto that got 92 Democrats in the House voting yes. So my question to you is, Do you still have the juice to get the rest of your agenda through this Congress? Well, if you put it that way, Jonathan, maybe I should just pack up and go home. Golly. Golly. So that's more of the just give me $100 million and I'll go away. And here's the thing that hurts my brain.

1:05:32 When I think about the police state and Google is running the interwebs, the Rand Corporation, but really, you know, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, GE, they're really running the show. What's weird is that I start to think, well, maybe Maybe Barack Obama's really trying to help us here. Maybe he's really trying to get us out of a mess and that he's now kind of signaling like, you know what? Screw it. I can't do it either. I tried this. I tried it this way. You know, blow me. I'm out. You know what I mean? Yeah, it could be. I mean, I think he's... Well, I mean, we have to... If we're gonna think that way, we have to consider the fact that that article that was written to slam him about giggling over the kill list. Right. Maybe bullcrap.

1:06:24 Of course, of course it could be. We can't trust the media. No, and so, oh yeah, he's got the kill list and he goes over it every day and it's like an arcade game to him and he likes to watch the guys get blown to smithereens. Could be bull. Yeah, could be. We don't know. He's never said, he's denied it. Well, then of course, you know. Well, he does have the kill list. No, but there's this. I have two words for you. predator drones yeah now of course that little too casually I agree that's no that you know and and that was written for him of course you know it's all written but still that was a little like huh really really so if Mobama was in Mexico yeah clearly there's a problem

1:07:08 Breaker breaker one nine. So he's down in Mexico giving the speech, you know promoting but every time you said anything I'm keeping I keep thinking Eric Holder Eric Holder we got to stop guns going across the border. Go arrest Eric Holder. Do I play your clip now? Yeah, go ahead. And in the United States, we recognize our responsibilities. We understand that much of the root cause of violence that's been happening here in Mexico for which so many Mexicans have suffered is the demand for illegal drugs in the United States. And so we've got to continue to make progress on that front. I've been asked and I honestly do not believe that legalizing drugs is the answer, but I do believe that a comprehensive approach, not just law enforcement, but education and prevention and treatment, that's what we have to do. And we're going to have to stay at it because the lives of our children and the future of our nations depend on it.

1:08:07 And we also recognize that most of the guns used to commit violence here in Mexico come from the United States. This by the way, it sounded like an applause track on a lot of the speech that he did. And I was trying to see if the people were really applauding. And you'll hear him stumble even, like... I'll roll it back just a little bit. You'll hear him stumble like, hey guys, turn down the applause track. And I mean, could these people actually understand what he was talking about, these kids? There's a bunch of kids, they didn't understand, right? So either there's a producer there clapping his script to get people going or there is an applause track and it sounded like it to me. I think many of you know that in America our Constitution guarantees our individual right to bear arms. And as President, I swore an oath to uphold that right and I always will.

1:09:02 But at the same time, as I've said in the United States, I will continue to do everything in my power to pass common sense reforms that keep guns out of the hands of criminals and dangerous people that can save lives here in America. Mexico and back home in the United States. It's the right thing to do. See that's it sounded a little bit like someone opened up the fader on that one and I looked at it a couple times that there's no other camera angle. Yeah, you're right it does it sound like there was somebody either the audience was mic'd and they kept turning it up and down to sweeten it or they sweetened it. See it felt a little sweetened and I had this funny because I had the same clip

1:09:40 They never show the audience. No I had the same clip and I also was like we got to get this holder guy has to be stopped But then you know time holders out of control so he mentions at the beginning there You know I don't think legalizing is the answer now the new president of Mexico He's made some changes, and it's my belief. You know of course we know that the The world really runs on three things, and we call it God, but it's gold, oil, and drugs. And of course everything in Afghanistan is, you know, all the drone warfare is just to cover up our hundred billion dollar a month drug business that the United States is running with other countries who are complicit.

1:10:19 But of course Mexico is extremely important for our drug trade, it keeps our financial system running because all of the drug money gets... and I'm not making this up, you know, HSBC was laundering hundreds of billions of dollars... And they got a slap on the wrist. And they got a slap on the wrist for it. I mean this is not some pretend thing I'm saying here. And by the way for people who want a reminder on how the whole thing works and how bad it can get, I can't imagine getting worse than it is. Get the documentary Cocaine Cowboys. And all you find out, the whole thing was banks. Banks, banks, banks. And BCCI, which was the CIA bank for the Iran-Contra, where they were trading guns for drugs. I mean, it's crazy what was going on. But here's a little piece that I picked up.

1:11:06 which gave me some additional information that tells me that our drug lord in chief, which is the President of the United States, and if it's not President Obama, it's Bush before him and Clinton before him and Bush before him, and it'll be Clinton next when Hillary's president. I mean, we run on drugs. legal or otherwise. And we seem to have some sort of royalty that we keep re-electing. Yes, we have royalty that we keep re-electing who are drug lord royalty and check this out. On Monday, his government confirmed that all security decisions would now run through the Interior Ministry, ending years of widespread direct access by U.S. agencies like the CIA to their Mexican equivalents. So here's what happened. This is why all of a sudden it's like red alert, red alert, hello? Wait a minute. So you can just see John Brennan.

1:12:08 So you think wait you think Obama's down in Mexico because of what you're going to explain? Yes, absolutely Why all of a sudden amidst all of that's going on in the United States amidst fundraising for the 2004 That's his main mission now is being on the road Fundraising for 2014 so the Democrats can capture everything. That's a big mission. We know the war on ammo, the war on crazy, the war on guns is all about getting women to vote Democrat for the rest of their lives, never even being able to speak the word Republican or any other party, independent, libertarian, whatever. And he all of a sudden has to rush down to Mexico because last week, apparently,

1:12:49 The new president there said, okay, listen, I'm taking charge. I'm a little sick and tired of the CIA running the whole show with you guys here. Now it's running through my office. So I can see Brennan coming up, Brennan, of course, the new, now in charge of running drugs, which is what the CIA portions. I can't condemn all of the CIA, but historically CIA has run drugs for for different reasons. Brennan comes to the Oval Office. By the way, he doesn't need to knock. He just the door blows the door open. It's like Mueller over there at Facebook. Yeah, Mueller. That's right. FBI director is like, hey, just popping my head in there, Zuck.

1:13:29 And it's like, hey, listen, get on your damn jet, get down to Mexico and you tell that wetback down there that that's not how it's going to roll, okay? Because that's how they talk. Believe me, this is how they talk. You ever seen the West Wing? That's not how they talk. This is how they talk. I know, I know. And it's really like that. And there's Valerie Jarrett like, no it's very important we keep the CIA in crime. We gotta keep them close. I'll come with you. And of course, Michelle's happy. Get the hell out, Barry. And he gets on the jet, he flies down there. He's like, dude, listen, dude. No X-ray on the legalization, eh. This is not what's gonna happen, man. We can't, because of course Mexico doesn't need us.

1:14:16 Their economy is growing 3-4%! People are... there's no... Mexicans aren't coming to America like screw that place! You're the new Mexico! We're staying here. Mexico is growing. They got oil, they got gas. Mexico is fantastic! Yeah, they got a little problem, you know, with killing people, but I'm sure that most of that can be related back to the holder. All of that stuff and the drug trade is out of control. So now that Mexico doesn't have to be peddling drugs and humans, now they've got this shit. I mean, how big is this oil and gas they found now in Mexico, John? This is big, right? Yeah, it's like...

1:14:55 They've got enough to get by. One of our main suppliers, them in Canada, which makes the whole foreign oil thing kind of awkward. Right, so I think that's also because the fracking thing is going to turn out to be pretty hoaxy. It's not really going to pan out that well for us. It sounds great and everything, but we still really need oil and it's going to come from Canada. We have three pipelines, by the way. The XL pipeline is nothing new. And it's going to come from Mexico. And I think that the Mexicans are going, yeah, you know, I think we're going to do it on our terms and we may consider legalizing it here and we'll sell our whatever we have left. Everyone here in Mexico can just legally make the dope, it'll reduce our crime. In fact, we'll just have the drug lords become the oil barons. You know what? Go and pound sand, America. I think that's what's happening. And Barack went down there to say, dude, we got a good thing going here, brother. What you doing, man?

1:15:48 The guy's gonna be assassinated by the banks. Yeah, yeah. Yes, the banks suffer during them. This is all a banker's dream come true, this free money. Yeah. Mr. Obama was asked about the decision during a press conference the next day. I'm not gonna yet judge. how this will alter the relationship between the United States and Mexico until I've heard directly from them to see what exactly are they trying to accomplish. Uh-huh. Now what did that sound like to you? What do you think you're trying to accomplish? It sounds like a CEO in trouble. Sounds like a CEO whose icon just showed up at his door. I mean, it's true with your company. Right?

1:16:34 Yeah, it does. I don't know what they're trying to do against the group. That's that borderline clip of the day because it's just so outrageous. It's it's kind of scary, but this is the way I see it. But it was it was seriously it was like I was watching a reality show, man. I'm like, oh, my God, he's he's literally just saying that, you know, we run all the guns where it's the drug problem that we've done the drug problem. And now this guy's changing the rules and I better go down there and fix it. Meanwhile, Joe Biden, oh my god, oh do I love this guy. Did you hear his thing about rape? No, no. Oh, oh, so he's talking about the stigma of women being raped and not wanting to go to the police because it's embarrassing. And Joe Biden, the Vice President of the USA,

1:17:25 I'm speechless. Listen to this. When I talk about you, you'll often hear men say, why don't they just leave? Why don't you just leave? Why are they, you know, they must be, you know, and I ask them, how many of you have seen the movie Deliverance? And every man will raise his hand. And I'll say, what's the one scene you remember in Deliverance? And every man here knows exactly the scene. I said, after those guys tied that one guy to the tree and raped him, man-raped him, no film, why didn't the guy go to the sheriff? I said, man-raped him? Why don't you just say butt-fucked him, Joe? Come on, we don't understand the story. They man-raped him. What would you have done? Oh, I'd go home and get my gun, I'd come back and find him. Why would you go to the sheriff? The reason why is they're ashamed.

1:18:27 Now I think he wasn't drunk in this case. No, no, he sounds sober as a judge. But he was I think he was sent out because because the president had to rush down to Mexico to save the money, the drug money trade. So I think Joe got pulled in and and and here's probably how Joe's like, don't worry about it. I got it covered. I got a great speech about the middle class.

1:19:05 I know how to do this. We know that when the middle class does well, everyone does well. The wealthy get wealthier and the poor have a way up. When the middle class is not growing, the poor are damned and the middle class are stuck. Ladies and gentlemen, you saw what happened to the policies we had to put up with for so many years before. You watch the middle class shrink. People having trouble. Trouble. Trouble they never had before It's like he's like about to bring to a blues song or something people have a exactly I got a song about I never had before but now he's gonna define the middle class and we've had this exact conversation Yeah, what is the middle class economist and I got a whole bunch of them? Yeah, they'll talk to you about the middle class in terms of a dollar number. I

1:20:01 They'll say, well middle class is $49,490 or $52,600. Middle class isn't a number. It's a value set. It's a way of life. That's my favorite. It's a way of life? It's a way of life! Hold on a second. Yeah, we actually know what that way of life is, Joe. That's a special... Few slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheese. Cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. It would makes the people in Delaware not a single bit different than the people in South Carolina.

1:20:49 It's about being able to own your own home, not just rent it. Oh, well then I'm clearly below middle class. I can't own my own home, Joe. It's about being able to send your kid to a good school in the neighborhood where it's safe. It's about being able to send your kid, if they do well after school, to college and know you. Do you know anybody? Anybody, rich or poor, doesn't have the dream that their child someday will be able to go to college. I've not found any distinction anywhere in the world, anywhere in this country. It's about knowing you can do that. It's about being able to take care of your parents when they get old and hope that you put an A enough that you won't have to have your children take care of you. Are you writing this down?

1:21:35 Yeah, I want to make sure we can play this back as the definition of the middle class right come from in Scranton and Wilmington, Delaware Oh But it's no different here. That's what being middle-class means It's being able to care for your family. Oh, oh It's being able. It's being able to hold your head high. And all of a sudden, all of a sudden, since the last election, here are Republican friends talking about how much they value the middle class. Okay, yeah, Joe, thanks. Hey, Joe, we're not going to send you out next time because you're babbling.

1:22:17 So I'm noticing by looking at the shadow stats numbers that we had 165,000 additional people which is only 15 over the minimum or the replacement number unemployed. It's still going in opposite directions. Shadowstats real number is going up and the government numbers are going down. Yeah, and of course our national treasure, and Miss Mickey is my canary in the coal mine now. Because she's in the car a lot, she drives around, dude, she's a busybody. And she's driving, she's got NPR on her. A busybody doesn't mean what you just said. Oh, well, no, correct. Correct. I didn't mean that. But she's busy. She's not like me. She's a busy person. She's busy. Yeah, she's got stuff to do, you know, she's like... People to see. Wheeling and dealing, babies to kiss, flesh to press, she's doing stuff. And so she listens to NPR. And she brings me a report.

1:23:13 Which is great because then I can spend more time doing Morse code and she brings me a report and she says you know it's like unbelievable and Yeah, I forgot what I was gonna talk about It's about the seven and a half percent number oh yeah, like yeah, yeah, and she knows it too, so this is bullshit I mean, Austin is actually below that. I mean, we're well below. I think real numbers were awesome. Probably real numbers is 7.5% unemployment. We claim five. So it probably is closer to 7.5 in real numbers. And it's great here. But yeah. But wow, come on. And no one questions this. Yeah. Okay. And I even heard because of course I go back and I listen to the reports.

1:24:11 And it's like, you know, unlike, you know, the last time where more people dropped out, which when that happened, they weren't saying that, by the way, you know, more people just became bums. So, you know, it's just numb. It's book cooking. Now there's something to be said for that because when you cook the books, when you have positive sentiment, when people feel better, you can create a positive energy. Which is a good thing. Yeah, and things can move forward. It can happen. But I think that theory, you know, I think they've been trying this for a while and it's really not working. So is this like a Hail Mary? It's like, I know what, just make it seven and a half. Screw it. Just lie. Try that. See if that works.

1:24:50 Yeah, wow. Fabuloso. Meanwhile, the president has lots of problems. On Wednesday, and of course you and I will be watching, we have another Benghazi hearing and the new whistleblowers have been named. I think we have like four witnesses who will be speaking and testifying about what really happened. I'm not expecting a lot of fireworks by the way. I'm expecting This to be to be to be covering up the true story. I think I'm expecting this to be inside job on the Republican side I'm not that thing is gonna be a huge distraction and we're not gonna get any real story. What do you think? I wouldn't surprise me Yeah, you know cuz I don't think I say is really you know, I don't trust any of those guys any of them. I

1:25:40 No, they're all sketchy. It's amazing. I would have bet. Sketchy. Yeah, they're sketchy. It's amazing how these guys are in office. No, it's not amazing. It's very understandable. Just look at the citizenry around you. We're sad, man. We're just sad, sad people. Sad. So we had another dinner party. Yes, let's talk about that for a minute. Now this was only one couple. Rick and Karen. And they're very interesting. He is a pharmaceutical guy. Oh, yeah. So and I have to say that I was he's the guy actually I think he was the one that he said to me once I could never have a Republican at my dinner table. Oh, one of those guys. Well, of course, he's rich. You know, he's a rich Democrat.

1:26:33 All the Democrats are rich. His wife, interestingly enough, she is, I think she was born and raised in Austin. If not, maybe she was born in San Antonio, but she's been in Austin all of her life. Stunningly beautiful, I might add. Just total babe. And but she but you know, so she's Texas girl, you know, it's underneath there. And so, you know, it's funny when you can kind of bring that out, you know, and then and you can see your husband kind of go like, and I know this is their second or third marriage for each of them, but they're an interesting couple together. So John and I discussed after the last show, it's like, OK, what am I going to do? He says, oh, you're going to you're going to stay with the pot, stay with the Dutch oven and you're going to make a big dead chicken recipe.

1:27:20 Which I think is what we called it, right? Big dead chicken? Big dead chicken. And so I followed the recipe meticulously and this... A couple things went wrong. First of all, the chicken vendor at the market wasn't there, so I had to resort to a chicken from Whole Foods. I think this was problem number one. Because you couldn't, no matter what they say, like, oh, this chicken was running around, he was happy, look at the picture. Bullcrap. This was no happy chicken. I don't think it was a good chicken. Even though it was the best I could get and it had to be a reasonably sized one. It wasn't huge, but it was big enough. But the idea was that it would be in the pot and then it would become golden brown after an hour, hour and 15 minutes and then it would be done.

1:28:10 And so I timed it out, they're gonna be here at 7, so at 6.30 I put everything in the oven and I'm like, okay, 7.30, 7.45, it'll be perfect and we can eat and I'll just be like, presto, and I'll be like, happy housewife, everything will be great. And at like an hour and five minutes, I look at this chicken, it's white, it's pale, it's like an albino. Now that you mention the Whole Foods chicken, I think what happened instead of roasting the chicken in the broiler, by the way, I also told Adam when you get one of these roasters, you got to, not the chicken, but the pot.

1:28:46 You've got to learn your pot. Learn your pot. I believe that a lot of you run in a good with a good chicken you won't run into this so much but I think that they eat is If the chicken was very moist, like it was injected with water or if it had, you know, was treated a certain way, what happens is it goes into the pot, the juices all come out as it's cooking and then they form on the bottom and then they boil and you end up with a kind of pale boiled chicken that is not steamed. It's not steamed chicken like you'd get a Chinese guy might do. It's steamed. So you ended up with this steamed chicken because you had a lot of moisture left and I think this was part of the problem. Well can I, if I can just briefly, because of course whenever John gives me the recipe I write it down verbatim.

1:29:36 So you get a big chicken, now you're gonna season that with, first you're gonna wash this thing out, you're gonna wash the inside out, you're gonna wash that with lemon, lemon okay? Then you're gonna have the, and you're gonna dry it off, then you're gonna, half an orange goes in that thing, half an orange in that chicken. You're gonna season this thing with salt and pepper, get some poultry seasoning, marjoram, just slather that marjoram all over the place. Now you're going to put it in there with your carrots and celery all around. Now keep the top of the chicken clear. Clear, okay? Now your onions, don't forget the onions. Small dice and smash up a garlic clove. The oven's going to be preheated to 450 degrees. You put the pot in, turn it down to 375 at convection. Check after an hour. You might want to baste if it's too dry. I'm like, too dry? I called John up. I'm in a panic.

1:30:16 My son is swimming in water John is like the thing is like a freaking albino, and he's asking me all these technical questions more well It's I'm like whatever and I hang up he calls me by the way I want to mention said marjoram not margarine because I want to get a note for what were you using some horrible product? Marjoram I said I know you did but people hear what they want okay here cuz you said slathered Well you actually said slathered because I wrote it down. Oh well. You slathered that. Yeah but you knew what I was talking about. Yeah yeah yeah. Okay go on. So I called you and he says well take the pot off put that thing on broil immediately. It's like and then he called back that was the cool thing. Here's what you do and he was like give me instructions like you know like like I'm inside I'm defusing a bomb.

1:31:05 It was a little- You were! Anyway, so I was able to get it a little golden, but it took away 5% of the beauty of the taste, I have to say. Because I should have done that earlier. Because I didn't know my pot. That is the moral of the story, know your pot. and I did not know my pot and therefore because once I broiled it for and that was only a couple minutes it really got it was it was beautiful really quick and the taste was nice but it had you know that when you just get that like oh crap five percent too done yeah no it's a real problem and and and you know and you can see what people go oh this is great you don't hear anything and like this they eat like

1:31:50 80% of the food on their plate, you know that feeling we allow I happens. Oh crap Yeah, but you know the thing is when you're cooking a lot And I cook every day and it's like you can you nail some things and some things you never get right sometimes you throw about a perfect Meal and he's actually stunning when everything you maybe get yeah, yeah more things going on. They're just absolutely perfect most of the time there's always a clunker in there something else Lemon in this or this clunker? There's always some one thing it's like I could have done better You're not spending a lot of time I mean most people should not be spending all day cooking now your cooking process should be an hour max Yeah, but here's the good news. Here's the good news. I have good news at least garling is

1:32:36 You know our hot Alaska salmon fisher chick? Oh yeah. She sent us two bottles of her homemade limoncello. Oh, that's nice. And I just got them high on that. And they said anything that was wrong with the dinner, they don't remember after the limoncello. Man, that's... Oh my God. And I'm not a limoncello fan at all. This is an ouch. She sent two bottles and one was supposed to go to me? She sent two bottles, yeah? Was one for you? I don't know. You have to ask her. Well, she might have to send another one. So anyway, so just about Rick briefly, because there was something interesting that came out of that conversation. So he, and he's been, you know, he's a pharma guy, you know, and I have to say I was kind of like, this guy, you know, vaccines, whatever, I don't trust him.

1:33:32 So he actually works on something called orphaned diseases. And orphaned diseases means that there's less than 250,000 people who suffer from this disease. And of course a lot of it is kids stuff. And he has, there's some degenerative version of autism which I already might I'm like, huh, okay, but you know the kids it really messes kids up and I don't know if it's class I don't know if autism is even the right classification regardless so he has funded Research and they've done the mouse test and the drop the dead flying drop dead mouse, whatever the technical term is and The mice love it. So now it's time that cures the mice So it's so he needs 25 million dollars to get to the next step and I'm like what that must be easy The 25 million dollars in the VC world is nothing says ah says, you know, it's easy to ask for 250 million and

1:34:28 And so, you know, he's having a hard time raising this money and has to come from either VC or from big, you know, obviously from big universities or big pharma companies. And also the Don, I mean, I said, where's the Kickstarter for this stuff? And he had no idea what I was talking about. So it was interesting explaining Kickstarter and he says well that's unethical. I said ethical schmethical. Oh, how's it unethical? Well, apparently the system is so rigged that if you that if you don't get your money from big big pharmaceutical From a university or from VC

1:35:08 that would be seen as trying to raise money from the patients themselves, which of course it is exactly who want this medicine. Because you know if you have 250,000 people and you need 25 million dollars, that's a hundred bucks. Fuck, here's 200 if you can fix my kid. He said that's not done and the FDA probably would just keep you in limbo for decades because you're now going outside the system. And that makes nothing but sense. And I yeah, and I was like, wow. And of course, you know, then of course, this whole Google thing happened. I'm like, screw it. I'm going to go do medical Kickstarter and just become a hack.

1:35:48 Let's make medicine a ruin yeah, but it was interesting that that's not possible whereas and when you think about it That will be the future. There's no doubt about it the future we can already print body parts 3d printers I mean all all Pharmaceuticals are made the basis is alcohol and ammonia and that's pretty much all all drugs these days start with that and You know how long before we don't need all of that that would you and I of course won't be around but the idea is nice to think about so and I and I was just it dawned on me and it's like wow we do Kickstarter, you know I look at Leo and he's you know, he's all giddy about some watch that you know gets his text messages like really look at all this dumb stuff or spending money on Kickstarter when

1:36:38 You know, relatively small amounts of money could actually fund interesting research that could help people. Even if, you know, it's, I don't know, it's sketchy, I don't know about the autism thing, but I found it interesting that that is just an impossibility in today's, in today's world, currently. And that was it. And then they said, hey, your chicken sucks and they left. That's pretty much it. Never to be heard from again. You think that's true? What? You'll never hear from him again? Um, no, I think what'll happen is if I say, hey, you want to come over for dinner? They'll go like, oh gee, hey, have you seen that about the new restaurant that just opened? I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab. On No Agenda, in the morning.

1:37:35 We have a few people that helped us out. Seth Dubois, Dubose in Mid-Zelothian, Virginia. $150, no comment. Blacklisted News, Round Rock, Texas, 12345. Thanks for the great media assassination, Blacklisted News. 69, 69, dudes! And without further ado, we're already at the 69, 69 thing with Jonathan Diggle of Winnipeg, Manitoba. He liked our deconstruction of Boston and Sandy Hook. He would like a karma shot for himself and his girlfriend will give him one. You've got karma. Sir Glenn Richie in Charlottesville, Virginia 6969 Kyle Corbin he gave us some nice

1:38:26 Was kind enough to mention the hack. Kyle Corbin, Greer, South Carolina. George Vanderhorse, Sir George to you, in Cats Hole, Holland. Cots Hovel. Yeah, Cats Hovel. The hovel of cats. He had a note. Yeah, all I got here is give me that BJ Karma. That was his note, exactly. No, he actually sent me a link. A scientific study has proven that ingesting, regardless of through which orifice, male semen is actually healthy for women and of course it's one of these studies that we support as fact and truth.

1:39:14 Science it is science and And so that's why he said more people need blowjobs because it's healthy for your partner, huh? Yep fact science that we have people doing this kind of research for us. Someone's got to do it It's a tough job and well, by the way his his name Audrey What? Nah, you dig yourself into a hole. Jason Mayerl. Mayerl. Mayerl. Mayerl. What do you think? Mayerl! He's from Wisconsin. Mayerl! In Winn...Wanocki, Wisconsin, as a matter of fact. And he closes out our 69-69 asking for some karma. 69! 69, dude!

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1:40:47 Kristy Pitts, Puyallup. First time donor, that's nice. Anastasia Treckels in Valparaiso, Indiana. Which is like, what? Who named it? You know, Indiana has my favorite town, one of my favorite towns in the country, which I've been to actually. Gnawbone. Gnawbone, Indiana. Yeah, well, up where... Mead Road, which is where my the homestead is for the curry family We have suck a bone Road The most stolen sign in the history of yeah, that's the problem people just steal a sign Yeah, that one that goes on the dime from Anastasia Jeffrey Gerlach and Alamo local boys 5150 gives all the time. We'll give him some karma for that You've got karma and

1:41:40 Daniel Frere in El Paso, Texas wants a douchebag call out to the citizens of El Paso. Douchebag! There you go. And look what he did. He gave us $50 from skateboarding lessons he's been teaching. Thank you, Daniel. That's highly appreciated. He probably can skateboard like a maniac. That's great. and Christopher Walker of Green Bay Wisconsin, Brett Farrell in Oklahoma City, Raul Ravello, Carvalho in it looks like Mexico, and Matthew Januszewski in Chicago, and Vytautas Sadowskas in Vilanus which is I think, where is that?

1:42:25 Isn't that Vilnius? Isn't that... Vilnius, yeah. Austria maybe? No, no, no. It's... Estonia? Yes, it's either Estonia or one of those... Oh, Herakles, look it up! Yeah, well, I mean, like I got everything... Consult the Book of Knowledge! Vilnius Lithuania, the capital Lithuania Everyone should know this I feel dumb, we should know this Lithuania Anyway, he wants some karma so do we have some other karmas backed up Let's give a final karma to everybody who donated Thank you very much You've got karma Of course the people who donated actually took their computer safety into their own hands

1:43:14 By clicking on advanced and then I know the risks, let me proceed. So until this gets fixed, please consider going to donate.curry.com. Let me see what you've done here on donate.curry.com. Check it out. I think I did a pretty good job. I did some actual work. Don't don't my code and put it there. That's what I did. Oh Yeah, but then I had but then you had to reroute the night and future night Images that's what you did and I had to remove the word Dvorak in one place not the email address strangely enough so Dvorak so mail to whatever colon No agenda at the vorac org that was okay. I

1:43:58 But there was a spot that just had the word Dvorak.org and I had to take that out, otherwise I kept getting that infected message. Yeah, the whole thing is bogative. It's total bogative. And by the way, it also states that you have infected Twitter with this, by the way. At some point it's like, you've infected curry.com and twitter.com. Good job. Good work, John. Infected Twitter. I infected Twitter. Okay, so this is a real problem. These are lies. Yeah, these are lies, but it is a real problem and this is going to hurt us because most people, you know, we've spent

1:44:35 We should sue Google for this. I'm telling you. I think we have we have a case here. We have spent six years programming people with a vorac org slash and a I mean and then this is not simple because if you go on the street and say spelled the vorac You know it's not like we make our donations easy So we have programmed into your brain, little kids are growing up singing this song, you know, let it be from the Beatles and the Dvorak.org slash NA song. And now Google is ruining this, ruining this with lies. There is no infection.

1:45:15 And you have to think that at this point when they bring out the big guns like Jeff Jarvis and Matt Cutt, cuddly duddly, whatever his name is. The grand gentleman. The grand gentleman of Google to say, you know, oh well. But meanwhile everything's solved, there is no hidden frames, there's no malware, there's no nothing. You're still getting that page because you're blacklisted. On Schmitt's list, you're blacklisted. Okay, it is and this is actually hurting our income. We don't live on anything else John's got a couple of columns and by the way, let's see if PC magazine publishes this column You're gonna write about Google. Okay, they'll publish good luck with that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah So here's how it went ends up gee I learned something very interesting about how awesome Google is I

1:46:08 That would be funny. Yeah? I love Google. However, I had a little snafu, which is- And it was my fault. My fault. I'm an a-hole. I'm a total idiot. I shouldn't have done any of that. Alright, well we caught it just in the nick of time. Happy we can say happy birthday to daughter Alana from Daddy Matt Milligan. Happy birthday from your buddy to the Noah Jenner Show! And then we have, we do have two title changes which are always nice. No knights of course today but Sir Joshua Dale now becomes a baronet and Sir Glenn Ritkeo becomes baronet of uh... uh... Auburn Marl County. Am I saying that right?

1:46:56 I can't read. I need to get new glasses. Let me see. Is it Alber? Albemarle. I had to look up how to pronounce it. A-L-B-E-M-A-R-L-E. Albemarle. Does that sound right? I don't know. Baronet. But I thought you couldn't have a county if you're a baronet. It'd be a baronet. A county's small. You can have small areas. A county's pretty small. Oh, okay. So yeah. And this is a... You can have a state if you're a baron. Uh-huh. You're making this up aren't you no, I'm the key head appears whatever I say goes it's well That's right exactly exactly right you can say whatever you want so those of you who? Risked limb and life life and limb to actually click through to the war org slash and I thank you very much We'll stay on this and we'll see you know maybe because of this are you on quit tweet today say yes No, I'm not I'm going down to LA

1:47:52 You're going down to LA? Yeah, I'm going to LA. What are you doing in LA? I'm going to Adobe Max. I'm gonna try to learn some Adobe skills so I have something to fall back on. Yeah, for real. Are you leaving today? Oh, that's interesting. I lived there for two years, you never showed up, thanks. But for Adobe, oh! For some free junket, I'm sure you'll go down. Hey, I was on my way down there and you say to me, we moved to Austin. I was literally going to go the next week and spend a week with you. Now we know you're going to come to South by next year, so. Oh, that'll be the day I go to that thing. I'll come down and visit you, but I'm not going. I'll go down, maybe to visit the people at the New Tech Operation, they do the TriCaster. Are they in Austin?

1:48:35 No, they're in San Antone. San Antone? Well, San Antone ain't no Austin, okay? No, but I'd go there, then I'd jump in the car, take that beautiful drive between San Antone and Austin. Hey, we have the new freeway, which you can drive 190 or something like that. I'll jump on the tollway and zoom down there and then I'll cook dinner. I'll see what that pot can do. Get me behind the wheel of that thing. Um, and you know, so the whole, this whole bullying thing and you know, now we have anti-bullying laws and rules and regulations. And so there was this inter school district, uh, athletic championship. I forget where it was. And, um,

1:49:45 So apparently they have rules now and this is and I when I looked it up was like oh brother This is rampant. I'd never heard of it. So the kids that the school the kids who won the relay race As you know, so they cross the finish line and they win and you know, so what do you do when you win? What do you do when you win? When you win a race, what do you do? A lot of people, they cheer for themselves, they pump their fists, sometimes they pound their chest, or they spin, or they do a pirouette, or they... a lot of them, if it's a long race, they just pass out. Now, passing out is the only thing I think in that list that you said that is actually allowed.

1:50:25 uh... no wayway where you tell me so when you say in bolt just kicks everybody's but in a hundred-meter dash in any does is always is he does that sort of us he makes the does a position of a bubble lightning bolt that would that be that's not good no that would fall under the taunting rules and regulation races over what's there to do what it what time to get you doing so well let me play the clip he said bragging so that so that no taunting so the kid sticks his finger in the air and he... To thank the Lord. To thank the Lord. To thank the Lord. And they were disqualified from winning, lost the race. What? Yeah, yeah. They lost the race, were disqualified even after they physically won, but because they broke the rule of sticking his finger in the air, he thanked the Lord in his case. And I've done things where I've gone like, holy crap Lord, thank you for that one.

1:51:21 Yeah, but even though I'm not necessarily like a church-going dude. No you're not. And here is the the rule police on the taunting rule and why they were disqualified. The rule states no celebratory gestures. up to and including raising your arms. According to the UIL, the relay team was disqualified for quote unsporting conduct. The UIL says it does not have a rule prohibiting religious expression. You can do whatever you want to in terms of prayer or kneeling or whatever you want to once you get out of the competition area. You just cannot do it in the competition area and it comes back to the taunting rule. I can't taunt my opponent.

1:52:05 You cannot and if you google taunting rules, oh my god This is everywhere the NCAA. It's like you can't taunt your opponent. That's not taunting It's called celebrating but you can't do that anymore because it might hurt the feelings Because it falls under the bullying rules do taunting and bullying and do a Google search on that. It's everywhere. It's insane people You can't. Here's the definition of taunting as a verb. Provoke or challenge someone with insulting remarks. Reproach somebody with something in a contemptuous way. Yeah, like doing a pirouette. That would be... No, I don't even think that qualifies. Yeah, but you're not allowed to do that. You just heard the guy. No crouching. No, you can't do anything apparently. Yes. So celebration. Okay, this is interesting because this is like the... We noticed this before how nudity equals pornography. Ah.

1:53:07 when there has never been a that connection before now they're making the connection that uh... that celebration equals taunting yeah that's it so now you can't celebrate so you can't even celebrate anything you can't celebrate life you can't celebrate the force for for uh... the new year apparently celebrating is constantly because you're taunting someone somehow if you're doing if you're having a good time and celebrating you know having it making a toast but how do you win you're not in total most of the bar is taunting you're not allowed to smile if you don't smile you get arrested but if you taunt if you celebrate then you're a bully because now it'll be celebrate as bullying white is black yes is no right is wrong up is down please go read 1984 please go read brave new world that we were set up for this clearly

1:53:58 Oh, no kidding. So play this clip. This is a clip of a guy, Hugh Sun, I can't remember his last name, just came out with a book. This was on Australian TV, it was an interview they do. It's actually a pretty good interviewer. And I just thought this was kind of fascinating. It has a little application here. I have some other clips that also apply to this taunting or celebrating his taunting, which is, whew. A real step in the wrong direction people. Play the self-esteem and drugs clip. Okie dokie. I just want my kids to be happy and I want to shake them by the shoulders and say what a hopeless thing to... not that you would wish your children to be sad or to fail but wishing happiness is like saying I don't want them to experience their humanity. I don't want them to know what it's really like

1:54:47 to be a fully functioning human. And I think the positive psychology movement, which carries happiness, self-esteem, excellence, the cult of perfection, all these things, they're all bound up in the current Western neurosis, the utopia complex, this idea that life Not just life can be wonderful, but life should be wonderful and it's up to you. Well, sorry, it isn't entirely up to you. What's up to you is have you equipped yourself to deal with the whole thing and not to feel that your default position is happiness. So if you're not feeling happy, quick.

1:55:24 You know, if I can't do it all by myself, could I have some pharmacological assistance? Give me a drug that will replace my authentic emotion today, a bit blue, with an inauthentic emotion, euphoria. Wow! Utopia complex, right on! Yeah, and that's what's going on. That's what we have. We're surrounded by this. The kids with the self-esteem that came out of the self-esteem movement. Oh no, don't worry. No, no, we don't. We don't give, we don't have first and second place. Everybody is a winner. We don't taunt. We don't taunt our losers. You know, when you lose, someone's got to say, hey loser. Yes, they should. But no, that's bullying or taunting. It's something wrong with you. Did you, did you read, hold on a second. Did you read the whole

1:56:12 Book of Knowledge entry. It's actually hilarious. So a taunting? Yeah, so taunting. You have clenched fist, crotch grab, cut throat, the dickhead, the finger... What's the dickhead? The dickhead. Gesture is made by holding a hand to one's forehead, the thumb and fingers usually forming a C shape. Oh no, that's an L! They got that wrong! No, no, no! Listen! Stop interrupting! That's the loser. That's what it I've never seen this. No, no, well you didn't let me finish it. All right go on I shall read again the dickhead gestures made by holding a hand to one's forehead the thumb and fingers usually forming a C-shape then moving the hand forward and backward in an arc the image suggested is a large penis growing out of the forehead Who does this? Have you ever seen that? Yeah guilty as charged

1:57:06 You do it? Yeah, whenever I see Jeff Jarvis. All the time. Are you kidding me? Then you have the finger, which of course is the middle finger. The loser gesture in some countries performed by raising the index finger and thumb of one's right hand perpendicular. That's the loser thing. The shocker, apparently, that's also taunting. If you don't know what the shocker is, look that one up. What's the shocker? Oh, please. John, are you kidding me? Two in the pink, one in the stink? Are you kidding me? You don't know the shocker? Okay, go on. I can't believe I slipped that in there. Tongue, sticking one's tongue out, a variation of this also known as blowing a raspberry, all illegal by the way. Turkey face. You mean going pffft? Yep. Is this taunting? Yep. Turkey face gesture, well according to the book of knowledge which lists you as being 4 foot 1 tall, so take that with a grain of salt. The turkey face gesture is when... Don't you think listing me at 4 foot

1:58:01 foot one tall is taunting? Yes, it's totally, it's big-time bullying. It's cyber bullying. I think Wikipedia should be ashamed of itself for letting people bully me on the Wikipedia. You know what, here, okay, so I'm gonna add another choice to my future list. So we have becoming a whore, which is the easiest and but not very profitable in my physical shape. Becoming a Twitter news director. and creating the next browser. Yeah, that'll happen with a Kickstarter. Everyone laughing at me. But I could also become a lawyer and just sue Wiki and Google and just sue everybody all the time for hurting my feelings. That might work. So the V sign is also an insulting gesture. What if it means victory?

1:58:52 The insulting version of the gesture with the palm inwards is often compared to the offensive gesture known as the finger. Oh, I see. Yeah, in some parts of the world, supposedly. The wanker... It's the area where people have two dicks. Yep. The wanker gesture is made with a loose fist, with all fingers forming a cylindrical shape, shaken up and down, sometimes back and forth at the wrist, suggesting masturbation. A picture of the young Tony Blair, later the Prime Minister, using the wanker gesture became widely available, although copyrighted in 2007. Really? Copyrighted! This wanker copyrighted. That's funny. I didn't know there was a picture of Tony Blair wanking. Let's see. Tony Blair wanking. Now we need to put this in the show notes. Let's see who's violating the law.

1:59:45 Uh... Oh yeah! That's right, of him as a kid. That's pretty funny. That's pretty funny. Oh, that is funny. Interesting. So anyway, so yeah, so that's that's where we're headed and yeah, and and I love what this guy is saying What do you call it the utopia complex? And that is pretty much the whole idea is take a drug to get the feeling but don't actually experience it Whereas you're supposed to it's really good. You know, you're as a kid You're not supposed to be wearing a helmet to go to school, you know You should fall down and knock some teeth out and scrape your knee roll in the mud get beaten up and

2:00:34 and then you too can be doing a podcast later. So I was listening to Abby Martin who I think they're trying to make the babe of Russia Today. Oh, you know I can't watch her. She's hard to watch and she's... She has the show called Breaking the Set. Yeah, I always wondered what that meant until I watched the show finally. It was Breaking the TV Set. Yeah. So anyway, it was all... and she just has... it's just... It's a written... I don't know what it is about her. I kind of... No, I can tell you. I can tell you exactly what it is. It's written in this snide... It's exactly what the Dane... She's basically Alex Jones with high heels. Except she doesn't have the voice to go... And she's not selling seeds, she's selling Russia.

2:01:31 Because all it is, it's like this, instead of discussing the issue and saying, okay, or maybe just saying what it is, like insane or whatever, or really delving in or reading something and coming up with some actual theories, it's all like, it's so crazy, you know, crazy that America would do this. You know what I mean? It's just like snide. Yeah, in fact, exactly what you say is what the clip is. And what's funny about it is this is a thesis of ours. that you know it's not it actually is not even a thesis of ours this is taken about I guess about a month ago or longer we had that clip of the Hayden and the head of the CIA accounting department and a CIA guy was a head of interrogation and all these guys are under indictment

2:02:17 were on a panel at Brookings or someplace talking about how Obama in particular has stopped all interrogation, he's stopped the torture which these guys are all for with a rationale that was like an eye roll. But it was okay, they were for it and they said he's moved on to just killing people instead of capturing them. And so now a month later RT comes up with essentially the same thing based on first she interviews some guy who suggests it and then she realizes, then she actually does a little documentation that we don't have that was actually quite good. But this thing is still bad.

2:02:53 And because this has been so politically bad for Bush and then Obama, even though people seem to... Wait, wait, did she just have the needle scratch sound effect? That apparently is the way they go into their bits. So hilarious! It sounds like a fart. Hi, I'm Abbie Martin. And because it's been so politically bad for Bush and then Obama, even though people seem to have forgotten that he said that he was going to close it, it seems like the U.S. is now opting to just kill suspected militants abroad instead of capturing them. I mean, is this just the new policy because of how bad this detention facility has kind of been a scar on the administration? Well, it's been, hopefully that's not the policy. I mean, if the U.S. has gotten to the point where killing people is easier than confining them, that's a sad commentary.

2:03:39 What a sad commentary indeed, if it were true. And guess what? It is. According to The Guardian, the lawyer who drafted the policy on drone assassinations, John Bellinger, claims that the Obama administration is ramping up the use of killer robots for this very reason. He says the administration's unwilling to deal with the consequences of capturing these terror suspects alive and having them end up in the limbo of Gitmo. At a press conference at the Bipartisan Policy Center, Bellinger said, quote, this government has decided that instead of detaining members of Al-Qaeda at Gitmo, they're going to kill them. So basically, Obama's drone architect admits that 5,000 human beings have died just so Obama can avoid bad press.

2:04:24 Because heaven forbid we deal with the antiquated concept of the rule of law, you know, capturing suspects alive and actually charging them with a crime before blowing them and everyone around them up. Wow Obama, how far are you? Straight! Okay, I've got it. Now, I know exactly what's going on here. I used to see this all the time at MTV. Where you get, so back in the day MTV everything was scripted. Everything was completely scripted out. I was one of the first people who said screw it, just put the title of the video in there, I'll bull crap my way into it. But everything was scripted, scripted, scripted. And they bring in celebraties. In fact Adam Sandler came in a lot. He was one of the few people that would sometimes go off script.

2:05:14 But when you get someone who can't read a teleprompter and you have someone writing in a certain tone a certain way, you get this mismatch. And that is exactly what this is. Abbie Martin cannot read a teleprompter. I could take that exact script and make it sound dynamite. dynamite and because the writing is kind of there but when someone writes... Wait, wait, hold on a second before you say that. The writing is kind of there, it's not quite there when you have a sentence like, and end up blowing yourself and a bunch of other people that are around the area up. Yeah, no, well this is my point. When the writer is putting in sarcasm, because that's what it is, they're writing sarcasm, she can't read it.

2:06:01 She's not even that hot Fire her already Sorry, she's just it's not working RT hire us. We'll get you the right women for the job We might have to poach one or two by the way Jeff Zucker over there at CNN you see what he's doing Yeah, he's loading up. Okay, so he there's some hot babes coming in and help hasn't helped yet But now they're doing these roundtables And it's completely... and so the... he for some reason, he has a hard on, maybe it's because she has a huge contract for Christiane Anpour. And they put her in every round table and it's so unbalanced. Like, you know, you got Anderson Cooper, you got Christiane Anpour who thinks she is the shit.

2:06:46 She's making faces. When someone says something she doesn't agree with, she makes faces. And her interviewing is terrible. I didn't play the whole thing, but when she was interviewing Eric Schmidt, who's got me on his Schmidt list. Schmidt's list. Schmidt's list. Schmidt's list. That should be the title of your column, by the way, Schmidt's list. That would be changed. So anyway, she kept asking the same question over and over and over. She lost her train of thought. She didn't know where she was in the questioning process. She's terrible. Yeah, and I used to like her. And Mickey is still a fan. I'm like, she's not good anymore. You got to watch her. Something happened.

2:07:35 Maybe something happened with the ABC thing. Maybe she got too much money. I don't know something happened so and now I'm gonna slowly move over to To Boston because I have I woke up with some thoughts and I went looking and I came up with some Some stuff that kind of fits into our theory but but you know, so either someone's making stuff up and Or this kid who is so shot up, you know, by not by his own weapon, we now know because he didn't have one that he can't talk. uh... but he's now saying all this stuff is just uh... it's obviously just lies and lies and lies just to keep the story going uh... it was amazing to hear some of the stuff that was coming out of people's pie holes and uh... here's unimportant she was just really annoying well you know it just goes to the point that i really hope that one day we hear the story of these two boys i hope we hear all of johar's story because clearly

2:08:38 This domestic terrorism, all law enforcement people say, is the biggest threat in the United States right now. Bigger than overseas terrorism. So we've really got to get to the bottom of this. And it's incredible to think that they just were able to turn it on, turn it off, decide what to do. Turn it on, turn it off, biggest threat. So she's reading a script which is really important. She is I'm just calling her 100% compromised. So now, so now I... What is the deal with these British accents on American television? Oh, I have... And CNN is the worst for it. Oh, oh, please. Does this impress anybody? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is 1940. Yeah, you know, this is the new thing. We got to have the Brits on because, you know, it's obviously truthful now.

2:09:19 So now they've got Bear, the ex-CIA guy, he's gotten his script now, okay? So now he knows what to say, and this is the same thing with Anampur and Pooper, and then they bring in some woman from The Blaze or something just to, you know, oh, we're fair and balanced over here at CNN, who cares? And then Bear is on the telephone. Anderson, that could be consistent, it could be correct, but there's two things I'd like to say. One is, Al-Qaeda has a standard procedure for its operatives. When they're caught, they're to say they did it on their own, they did it at home, they took the design off the internet, that there was no direction, and that's been in place for the last four or five years. We don't know that that hasn't happened in this situation. And number two is I've seen nothing out there to explain

2:10:14 How these two young men were able to change the design from the Inspire manual because it was changed. complicated it was an upgrade apparently this additions added to it on that circuit the rest of it on the circuit is so he's apparently seen the circuit board now this isn't something that they would know how to do I mean why why did they why did they bury the design I still think that Tamerlan got some sort of instruction in Chechnya or Dagestan, but that's just a hypothesis. But, you know, yes, they could do it in the apartment. I doubt these Kazakhs were truly involved in the plot. Maybe the wife was. Kazakhs are so rarely drawn into these things that they're probably

2:11:08 they're probably unwitting conspirators. And that's okay. So I'm going to come back to that in a minute. But so he's he's saying something very interesting. They couldn't do it alone. Impossible. You know, what's going on with the Chechens? So part so I woke up the other day. I'm like, okay, Now I'm starting to figure it out because these guys, you know, they were in not a free school, you know Not a not a very expensive school, but ten thousand dollars a year for tuition at least Which I don't have ten thousand dollars a year an extra two if my daughter said hey dad I want to go back to college. I'd be like getting on the loan train. Trust me so I don't have that kind of money to send not one but two kids whoever's paying for this and

2:10:14 How these two young men were able to change the design from the Inspire manual because it was changed. complicated it was an upgrade apparently this additions added to it on that circuit the rest of it on the circuit is so he's apparently seen the circuit board now this isn't something that they would know how to do I mean why why did they why did they bury the design I still think that Tamerlan got some sort of instruction in Chechnya or Dagestan, but that's just a hypothesis. But, you know, yes, they could do it in the apartment. I doubt these Kazakhs were truly involved in the plot. Maybe the wife was. Kazakhs are so rarely drawn into these things that they're probably

2:11:08 they're probably unwitting conspirators. And that's okay. So I'm going to come back to that in a minute. But so he's he's saying something very interesting. They couldn't do it alone. Impossible. You know, what's going on with the Chechens? So part so I woke up the other day. I'm like, okay, Now I'm starting to figure it out because these guys, you know, they were in not a free school, you know Not a not a very expensive school, but ten thousand dollars a year for tuition at least Which I don't have ten thousand dollars a year an extra two if my daughter said hey dad I want to go back to college. I'd be like getting on the loan train. Trust me so I don't have that kind of money to send not one but two kids whoever's paying for this and

2:11:48 There's some talk of a scholarship. Okay, scholarships come from many different places, not just from athletics but also from agencies. The guy's driving a BMW and oh, a little extra thing I learned about the BMW which I didn't know and I went looking for the picture and I found it. Pooper talks about it. Enormous bill and spent multiple billions of dollars to prove, even other than the Patriot Act, the idea. Listen carefully what Pooper, so they're talking about how everyone's failed but listen to what Pooper says about the license plate. Of creating a national intelligence office. Right. Don't we have a...

2:12:24 purpose was to remove it. But you know I'm still so struck by the Kazakh students and the US students that insisted with the terrorist list on it. Did you hear that? Did you know that he had a license plate that said terrorist number one? Yeah that's the rich guy who's gone through all the BMWs. I think that was pretty common knowledge. But I either I didn't miss it or I missed it. Okay So here's what I'm going to suggest. I still think we had a mix up between agencies, okay? And the CIA most likely had these kids on their payroll. And maybe even the other kids whose visas had to be checked, you know, because they were like helping out. I think this is very common. Like come over here, we get you in school, we're going to give you an education, you know, you could, hey man, you're rocking, you're with us. Then go over to Chechnya, we teach how to make a

2:13:17 bomb, go F with the Russians, come on back, we'll do more for you, shuttle back and forth. Sounds like they were so much on board with what they were doing and that's why they're also yelling, hey man, we didn't do it, we didn't do it, it wasn't us, man, because they know, because I think they truly were already working for the CIA, bear with me. But now we have the bomb problem. And this bomb thing, I believe, is going to be pinned on the real IRA. Who just, and it shows up in the Federal Register like fucking clockwork. The president says based upon a review, blahdy blahdy blah, the real Irish Revolutionary Army is a foreign terrorist organization, shall be maintained with that classification. Shows up out of the blue. Boston, of course, well known for its connection with Ireland, lots of money going back and forth, and here's Bear again. And if that's the case, having learned all of this online, they apparently didn't meet Anwar al-Aulaki. Of course he's been dead for a while, but even before had they been, you know,

2:14:19 germinating this for a long time and again you know these are not bumbling idiots they put a bomb at the biggest sporting event in Boston and killed three people and injured 200 they're not bumbling idiots and I think that this is... I second that, I second that you don't do two bombs in a crowded area with all those cell phones command detonated without some out some instruction. Who were programmed you know they didn't and again I've said this before these guys didn't know it was gonna blow up They knew they were supposed to put the bombs in and the agency was trying to get them on videotape Which is why they keep saying they have the videotape of them dropping it off and then walking away like nothing You know no care in the world, and I can just see this so imagine this and it's like a TV series and

2:15:21 The CIA is sitting there watching the cameras, they're getting the guys, and then all of a sudden just as the money shot is supposed to take place where Johar is putting his backpack into the trash can, some FBI fed is right in front of the lens. And the guy's like, get move out of the way you idiot! Oh Jesus! We didn't get it! So they don't have that video which is why they asked everyone who had a camera, what do you have? Did anyone see anything? Because we missed the shot! And now they don't have it, but they just say that they have it and we know that even the governor hasn't seen this. Right, but right now they're working on it. And so now that so they're working on it. Creating it as we speak. Recreate it, it's gonna you know Spielberg whatever they need to. It'll have a lot of flaws and it'll be you know that's the problem. Now but meanwhile we have to propagate the meme and so why don't we just bring in Sanjay Gupta

2:16:16 And oh yeah, and and proof science fact That you can now prove that these guys have an actual brain disorder And it's reproducible we can just check anyone's brains, and it's very obvious because when you walk away from this When it blows up and you have not a care in the world, you are mentally ill and there's a guy out there who can prove it. Some of the most important clues in the Boston bombing investigation may actually lie inside the brains of the suspects. Possible abnormalities that experts say could have predisposed them to this kind of horrific attack. Here's our chief medical correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta. In the wake of tragedy come the inevitable questions. What makes a killer?

2:17:06 Is there a switch that turns on a rampage? And why? Why would someone do this? You can just say the person's evil. I think that's 13th century thinking. I think we've moved beyond that. Adrian Rain is a criminologist. He's also the author of a new book, The Anatomy of Violence. He has spent more than three decades studying cold-blooded killers. He says there are biological explanations for violence. And Rain is convinced that brain dysfunction may, in part, explain the terror unleashed in Boston. I don't think so. I think it's more complicated than that. Rain says he first saw echoes of his own work with violent criminals when this image of 19-year-old suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was released. While others were running away, he was just walking away as cool as a cucumber. I mean, that really struck me.

2:18:07 because I've seen this before in psychopaths and murderers in prison. And then there were these photos of the brother who was killed. Tamerlan Tsernyev, boxing. We've found a neurological abnormality in the brain. Now please bear in mind that if you're not smiling or if you are using, what is the term, furtive? Furtive movements. Furtive movements. It's all a part of this. Predisposes to violence and psychopathy and it's also been found in boxers. And by the way, get a British accent, fact. This is called carvum septum plucidum. During fetal development, as the limbic regions begin to expand and develop, they

2:18:50 compress or fuse the two leaflets of the septum plucidum together, for some people, because of mild development of the limbic system, the gap never closes. Mind the gap! That gives rise to a lack of fear and a psychopathic-like personality who could go and kill, you know, a number of people and maybe not have any sense of shame or remorse or guilt about doing that. That's right. Check out the whole video in the show notes at 510.nashownotes.com. So it's obvious, had brain damage. He can prove it. Deceptius Lickitus Nuckitus. Well one interesting little tidbit that came to mind as you gave that analysis. The one guy with the terrorist number one license plate was one of the three students that took the backpack and the laptop.

2:19:47 that particular guy with that license plate, that was like his third or fourth BMW. He said to have lots of money but nobody knows where he gets it from and all that sort of thing. He was selling weed is what they were saying, right? Yeah, selling weed enough that he'd get a BMW, a good one. And so now the way you have it set up, that would mean that somebody would, the reason they went and got the backpack and the laptop in particular was to get them out get that evidence out because the kids working for the CIA, this is part of a cover-up. So they were, one of those kids, and that guy with the BMW would be the one guy, was maybe working for the agency or the other side, or who knows. On the inside. On the inside. So he grabs the laptop and the backpack and then they haul it off and throw it in the garbage. But they keep the laptop and no discussion of the laptop

2:20:40 made because that goes right to the agency who take a look at it to get the crap off of there that might be you know kind of a lead back you know the might the breadcrumbs on there they got to get rid of that so that laptop which was not reported so what we don't know what happened to the laptop as you listen to all those reports it was one after another why what happened to the laptop I don't know what happened to the laptop. Who cares? Laptop schmaptop. We got the you know the backpack with the stuff in it they could have put that in after the fact for all we know you know the evidence could be planted in there because they did find it in a massive garbage dump which doesn't seem like the easiest thing to do especially if it was thrown in a garbage bag. They got to cut every garbage bag open look for so that's a little sketchy. That in itself is kind of all they got found it in the garbage dump. Did you see that pictures of those people in the garbage dump? It was horrible. Anyway so the laptop meanwhile shows up out of the blue apparently and then we don't hear nothing more about it one way or the other. This is pretty pretty messed up. Right.

2:21:39 So anyway, so I think that the, I think this is a little, I think you're right, I think your analysis is correct. There was two agencies bumping heads. This thing may or may not should have gone off. I don't know how you can analyze a bomb after it's been blown to smithereens and make commentary on how it was redesigned. from the blueprints that are in that Inspire magazine, but I guess you could if the piece, I guess the important piece of it was blown away from this. It sounded like he was saying that the circuitry on the detonating device, which we've heard nothing about, I've not heard anything about the circuitry, which apparently, you know, there's pieces of it, I guess someone knows,

2:22:20 You know, but this Bayer guy, his job is to put something, and you know, who makes bombs better than anybody? The IRA. You watch. Put that in the Red Book. IRA get the real IRA, by the way. There's the IRA, there's the real IRA. Just classified as a foreign terrorist organization. Why? All of a sudden. Boy, that's convenient. It shows up in the Federal Register. This, like two days ago. Who makes bombs best? The Irish. Yeah, they're mad bombers. In fact, when Mickey's car was bombed, when her car was rigged with a bomb, they sent the car to Ireland for them to check it out to see if they could figure out what had happened. Because that's where you send your shit. Those guys know how to deconstruct that. And Boston, hello? Ireland? You watch. It's going to get pinned on them for some reason. And now, of course, they're an actual foreign terrorist organization. Isn't that convenient?

2:23:27 So while you were doing that, I was listening to a psychiatrist, a psychologist who has a very strange background. He worked in Denver and Connecticut. His name is Charles Hurd and he said a number of things that I thought were quite interesting insofar as the debate is concerned. I had to listen to these three clips a couple of times to realize what's really going on here and I'll tell you what that is after you see if you can spot it. This is all interesting material and they're talking about Adam Lansom and this is one of those seminars that's a closed seminar that's on C-SPAN. This system, there's no blaming the individual. We just feel guilty. The people who provide treatment to these individuals, and I speak first hand but I also speak for my colleagues, when something like this happens, there is a tremendous amount of guilt.

2:24:23 that is experienced by those who are treating these people. And it's frightening. Whether or not he had somebody treating him, my first thought was, oh my God, I feel bad for this guy if he's caring for this person. Because it's impossible to be able to predict these things. As much as we like to think, well, if only the system were better, we would be able to identify these individuals. Do you know how many college students in their last, in the last year have had homicidal ideas? 70%. 70% report homicidal ideas in the last year. Ah, perfect! What do we do? We drug them! Nice.

2:25:11 the good number. So then it goes on with some back and forth. This is to the, I think this is at the Columbia School of Journalism, it's for journalists to listen so they can get the kind of a clue from this guy. So let's play part two and then we'll do a little giveaway in here I think is kind of interesting. One final thing in terms of the press and the recovery of Newtown. Is this clips to? Oh yeah, I'm sorry. This is clip two. Go on, I'm sorry. ...in public as we are in private. And when we're in front of the cameras, we tend to exaggerate our pluses and minus. We like to please. And if we think that people are looking for us to be a victim, we will play that up. If they think we're looking for us to be the hero, we'll play that up. It's not conscious, but it's there.

2:26:07 And I think the attention that Newtown has received by the press has magnified that impact. And I think ultimately it slowed the recovery of the town. Okay, now this was a very subtle message about that guy who was joking and having the time of his life. And then when the cameras are rolling he's crying? No, in fact no one was crying. We have not seen a single tear on television. Oh no, but he was acting like he was crying. Yes. Yeah, well I thought that was kind of sketchy, that commentary in the first place. Agreed. But then I realized that

2:26:45 There's actually a very more sinister message in this whole thing. And I don't know if it's this guy or if it's just a message that's floating around the community, the health community, or if it's a Democrat thing. I don't know. But play clip three and then I'll tell you what I think is going on. If I'm an investigative reporter and I'm as one corner of this, I'm trying to figure out What parts of the mental health safety net might have, what elements of a mental health safety net might have done a better job of catching someone like Adam Lanza regardless of this case? Where should we be looking? Podcasts! Well if you look at the bills that are going before the Senate,

2:27:33 none of them, if they become statutes, would have captured or will capture someone like Adam Lanza. There's a lot of focus on committed outpatient treatment, but one needs to have committed some sort of act of violence like Kendra's Law here in New York. And Adam Lanza was not violent prior to his act. And I'm not clear, at least nobody's reported this in the press, that he ever even expressed a violent thought. And do you know how many kids are preoccupied with violent video games or military wars or mass killings? I'm just not clear in my mind that there is an easy solution from a mental health perspective. I think the safest solution

2:28:30 obviously is to keep guns away from people who are prone towards those types of things. But that gets back to gun legislation. Are there nonetheless some places in the mental health system that reporters should be looking and asking questions about? Well, you know, there are a lot of problems with the mental health system, not just locally but statewide as well as nationally. And It's a very challenging thing because there are limited dollars to go around and we all know that our health care system is broken. So states in the nation have to prioritize where they're going to put their dollars. Oh boo! Boo! So here's the deal. I don't like him. System sucks, we need more money, which is a nice, you always got to get that in there. Safety net,

2:29:27 can and never will work because of situations like Adam Lansing, he could not be caught with all these new rules and regulations and ideas and even turning the guy in if he was seeing a shrink. Doesn't work. I know what'll work. Fluoridate the water. Put some lithium in there. What he's really saying here is that yeah we should keep guns out of the hands of criminals but because we need to be safe we should just ban guns period. This is a gun grab. This is all handguns are bad or all these guns are bad because we can't we can't figure out who it is message We can't figure out who this guy is in advance no matter what we do Okay, so all right so as this was playing I was thinking because of course you know the Boston guys They didn't shoot people up. They didn't take AR-15s and go and shoot people No if they really did it someone did it someone's lit off some some big cherry bombs And they made big boom and hurt people

2:30:28 If you, and the statistic of 70% of all college kids have homi- not suicidal, homicidal thoughts. Like, I'm gonna kill that bitch. That's probably kind of the thinking. I believe it all goes back to, and this is why we are doomed by the way, so now is the time for you to cry. This goes back to how we are treating our kids. So if you don't let your kid be a loser, if you don't let your kid be bullied, if you don't encourage your kid to go back and fight, if the kid doesn't know what it feels like to get punched in the face, or I have to say, or what it feels like to punch someone,

2:31:06 What that feels like, because I remember the first time I hit someone, I was horrified. Like, oh my God. And if you don't have these experiences, you can't learn them from a book. Okay. You also, by the way, need to see what real war looks like, which we have been, that has been obfuscated. That's the big difference with Vietnam era when we had soldiers coming back just limbs hanging off we had news items where they showed it are you there were guys in the field where people were getting shot up yep just dying right in front of you and they did bring the caskets back and we've got to film it now it's illegal it's illegal well quasi illegal these things need to return this is this is actually one of the despite

2:31:50 How low the donations were today because of our problems. This is a well-rounded this I'm actually gonna tag This is a well-rounded Show because we really did hit on all these items and it starts at how we are treating our kids this insanity of putting them in a Faraday cage that's padded with the helmet on so Johnny doesn't bump into a pole and get a scrape on his way to school has to stop and Now, I'm not on board with the leash thing, John, but even that is better than what's happening now. We have to stop this. Your kid needs to get dirty, needs to eat dirt, needs to start a fire. Yes, I said it.

2:32:35 Maybe I'm dying soon because I keep getting these flashbacks of when I was a kid. I think it's because of where we live in Austin and we walk on the street and like, wow, this is what it used to be like when I was a kid. You walk on the street, you go down to the creek, you know, you try and shoot a frog with your BB gun and then you kind of felt bad when you hit him and he was alive. You know, I don't feel good about that. And then you like start a fire and then a got out of control but then you put it out and you were, whew, man, or maybe you didn't and the cops had to come and you run away. This is all important stuff. It's important. This is how you form real human beings with real experiences, not stuff that is just made by movies and video games and television. Real experiences. In fact, John, here's the real business. Reality camp.

2:33:27 you and I and we bring these kids in and they and we just beat him up yeah this would be a liability to the highest order well it was a fun idea while it lasted so anyway so those of you with parents take that into account go move somewhere where this behavior is accepted I will say Austin In some places, very accepted, some places exactly the opposite. Really bad, really, really bad. But I love it when I see kids running around in the market on Saturdays in Republic Park, tripping, falling, crying, bumping into each other, like, pffft, like mud all over, dog poop on their face. I love it! That's how it should be. It's good. John, come on. Am I right or wrong?

2:34:15 No, I think you're basically right. Okay, thank you. Except for the dog poop part. So if you don't, if you're not going to go in that direction, then we have, I have a clip. Oh no. Really? Of women. that have been brought up with this problem. You have to listen carefully because there's a bunch of different women here. This is about the big biker thing. This is what the burning man of motorcyclists is called, Sturgis. Half a million of them drive out here and there's this huge area that was put together called Buffalo Chip. It is where all the camping takes place.

2:34:56 And these women work there and they want to all become Miss Buffalo Chip. Which is cow poop, right? Yeah, yeah. And they go on about how great it would be for their career of awesomeness and it's a lifetime goal and all the rest of this mediocre bull crap and they're all dumb. and it's just it's just you have to it's hard to hear it because it's all over produced it's on the travel channel one of these things and they always have to have a lot of music behind everything so you can't it's horrible but but you can get an idea of where this country is really going. Ultimate biker babe it's Miss America with piercings and ink

2:35:40 My name is Cherokee. This is my first time to be at the Buffalo Chip. And we are basically here to just promote the Buffalo Chip and help out with this whole sexy feel of it. I want to be Miss Buffalo Chip. That is my ultimate goal. I'm here to win. Although competing for Miss Buffalo Chip is just another part of their job, Cheryl and the rest of the girls really want to win. To be Miss Buffalo Chip is the next big step in my life of greatness. We have to dazzle everyone with our wits and our charm and our good looks. Cash prizes and a trip to Jamaica are at stake, but Misty has her own reason for wanting to win. I want to be Miss Buffalo Chip because I want to come back next year, duh! Duh!

2:36:28 I'm a famous buffalo chip because I have skull and crossbones tattooed on the backs of my legs. So why wouldn't I be Miss Buffalo Chip? I mean, covered. Being able to party and work at the same time, like what better job could you have? Yeah, that really hurt. Very, very hurtful. Welcome to America. Yeah, that hurt. That really hurt. I'm trying to say that we can be great and you're just like demoralizing me. Good work. I forgot to say, Teach your kids that we'd have enough lawyers Teach your kid we have enough. It's always stop. We have enough already. It's okay cuz you're right all these great ideas become huge liabilities You can't even do something cool send your kid to like nature camp or something or do why in why Indian guides? I was a I was a why Indian guide remember that John no you don't remember the why Indian guides I never heard of it. Oh, let me see if they still exist hold on oh

2:37:27 Why? As in the letter Y? No, no, as in the letter Y. Indian guides. I wonder if they still exist. YMCA Indian guides. There you go. Oh, YMCA? No, but it was the Y Indian Guide... Y Indian Program... Y Indian Guide's Program in History. It's hosted on GeoCities. That doesn't bode well for the Y Indian Guide. GeoCities is gone! What is Y Indian Guide? For the past 60 years, Y Indian Guide programs have offered thousands of elementary school-aged children and their parents opportunities to laugh, love, grow, and learn while spending quality planned one-on-one time together. I remember it.

2:38:07 Well, of course my dad gave up after like three meetings. Thanks, Dad. Because you know if your dad couldn't go then you know it's like you couldn't really give us like weird. But you know we do like American Indian stuff, you know. It's kind of like it was kind of like a cool... Aims. What? One, to be clean. I'm going to read you the aims from the YIndianGuys.org. Aims one, to be clean in body and pure in heart. Two, to be pals forever with my father slash son. Yeah, how'd that work out? Three, to love this sacred circle of my family. Four, to be attentive when others speak. In other words, shut up. Five, to love my neighbors as myself. Six, to seek and preserve the beauty of the great spirits work and force their feel and stream. Yes.

2:38:53 Yeah, that's a winner. No, but you know what we went into the woods and we like made fires and we cook stuff like you know squirrel Absolutely, it was good when we enjoyed the land and then you know And then you're like I remember one kid almost drowned or like we're doing a pool thing and it was good like oh man Look at that idiot. It was drowned. Ha ha ha It was good. It's good. All right. Well now you can't laugh when the kids almost drop. But you do have to smile all the time. So how does that work? I didn't know anything bad was happening because everyone was smiling. Hey what is this Becky asked Adam is that worth it or are we not going to do that because I've been looking at this is a question. The problem is I left out the answer but but just imagine just a that's OK. This

2:39:41 So I want you, this is typical with CNN stuff, I want you to assume this person is asking you this question and tell me if you can even make heads or tails out of what she's asking. Because Mark Zuckerberg told us recently in a huge press conference, didn't he, in a huge event The mobile growth is where it's all at. And he talks about the new mobile Facebook environment where mobile will effectively be your operating OS on your phone going forward. That's where they see the growth. Do these numbers underline that that's where users see Facebook going forward or not?

2:40:23 Becky, Becky, if you were a real doll you'd be taken out of production. Okay? This is, this is, what an idiot! Another one that gets fired. But she's got a long-term contracts on people like this. They can't get rid of them. But she's got the British accent, which gets an automatic pass. This is, I'll leave this, I will leave you with this being my last clip for the day. This is to, this has to stop, okay? We've got nothing but these moronic Brits Coming over and it's like they don't have enough going on in the UK Maybe they've all been pooped out like you know, I don't know. What do you what is this with the Brits in our news and Charlie Rose has The editor I guess of the Financial Times and just you know when I hear this I

2:41:13 It just makes me want to puke. And it's still not entirely clear to me what he's really trying to achieve in terms of legacy. Let's hope that Lionel's right and the legacy will be a big deal on the budget and the debt because that really would be a fabulous legacy. If we see 3.5% growth 2014-15, no conflict with Iran, President Obama will go down as one of the top American presidents. I believe so. If you think of the conditions... Bring it back to 3.5 and somehow Iran gives up all of its ambition or... No war abroad, he'll have brought the troops home. I'm writing the biography already.

2:41:52 And you can even hear Rose going, yeah, I know you are. I know you're running a biography. Hagiography is what it would be called, as we've learned from John. But this has to stop, okay? And I have nothing against British people at all, but the way you are being used here to get ratings, and you probably know it, but it's annoying. It really is becoming annoying to me, and we're going to have to start some kind of campaign Where we need to turn you off if you're British and I'm doing news here. Go to the BBC. Go work for the big pedo bear. So I have one clip that's interesting because I'm finding more clips like this. This will be the last clip for me. Which are this short too. It's this kind of weird innuendo that has something to do with the plot but sounds more like some sexual thing which is won't take long. What do you think? That's great. It won't take long, will it?

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