Episode 506 · Sunday, 21 April 2013

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Federal agencies face questions over prior knowledge of the Boston suspects while the DEA fights a losing battle against state-level marijuana legalization and shifting constitutional interpretations.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 506

About this episode

The FBI and CIA face scrutiny over a potential cross-operation failure involving Tamerlan Tsarnaev and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev following the Boston Marathon bombing. A theory emerges suggesting the brothers were part of a dead-drop exchange gone wrong, while Congressman Peter King dismisses claims from the suspects' mother that her sons were under federal control for years. The unprecedented lockdown of Boston resulted in an estimated $350 million in economic damage as militarized police units utilized thermal imaging and flashbangs to secure a capture in Watertown.

Federal agencies continue to leverage the Tenth Amendment in a standoff over marijuana legalization as DEA Director Michelle Leonhart testifies before Congress. Leonhart claims dispensaries increase crime rates while citing a controversial 8% IQ drop in users, a metric challenged by Adam Curry. Meanwhile, the Federal Register reveals the Obama administration signed military assistance waivers for Libya and Yemen, and GE Healthcare received DEA approval to import cocaine analogs for production validation. In West, Texas, the fertilizer plant explosion highlights a lack of OSHA inspections since 1985 despite existing safety regulations.

Environmental activism takes a turn in Seattle with the Earth Gay trail cleanup event as Bill McKibben releases the alarmist film Do the Math. The tax filings for 350.org reveal the late Elizabeth Taylor remained on the board years after her death. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak explore the history of eugenics and scientific consensus, drawing parallels between early 20th-century forced sterilization and modern climate rhetoric.


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CHAPTER 01 / 46 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 506 Introduction, Travis Heights and Silicon Valley

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 506 of the No Agenda show, broadcasting from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts greet the live chat room and acknowledge the "Value for Value" model. A listener anecdote describes an instinctive "feet in the air" response to a "boots on the ground" comment in a corporate meeting.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· media assassination· travis heights· austin· silicon valley

00:00 Tasty new weed. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah. Hit Sunday April 21st 2013 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 506 This is no agenda deconstructing mainstream media bullcrap since 2007. From the Travis Heights hideout where SoCo meets MoFo in Austin, Texas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry! And from northern Silicon Valley we're at sunny again and there are no SWAT teams. I am John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Yeah good try...good try. You still kind of... Give me a little level will you?

00:41 Okay. Give me some level, talk for a moment. Let me take a pic- let me pull this uh... So just talking to the microphone that would help I'm talking and what do you think i'm talkin'? You're going like ehhh ehhh ehhhh ehhh What do you mean? I don't know what you're talking about. Tell me, you're on the Shays Lounge again... I'm on the Shays Lounge. And yours- and your- so is- Huma and Anthony for The 20th Time It's a fascinating tale In The New York Times?! Yeah Again!? No it just was sitting under this desk Oh okay alright

01:16 Well, in the morning to you John C. Dvorak. Morning to you Adam Currie. In the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air shubs of water and all the dames and knights out there And uh... in the morning to the chat room who are standing by as always human resources they're depleting their nine point two million dollar value at noagendastream dot com no agenda chat dot net Was it someone who wrote us a note that they were in a meeting at their office and someone said, boots on the ground. And he instinctively like in a Pavlovian manner said feet in the air! Yeah I did. Everyone went uh dude? What is your problem man? Are you okay? What do you mean what does that mean?

CHAPTER 02 / 46 Discussion

Boston Marathon Bombing, Media Narrative and Sound Effects

The discussion focuses on the chaotic media reporting following the Boston Marathon bombing and the subsequent manhunt. A news clip summarizes the events, including the shooting of MIT officer Sean Collier and the carjacking of a civilian. The hosts critique the use of dramatic sound effects in news production and question the official timeline of the gun battle in Watertown.

boston marathon· fbi· mit· sean collier· tamerlan tsarnaev· dzhokhar tsarnaev

02:06 So what happened this week anything? Yeah, I'm so he's known cops at work Oh my god if I I swear to God right thousand cops take down kid right here in my notes. I have Keystone cops I literally have keystone cops in my notes you know III've spent ever since we got off the air on Thursday and I have been emailing, talking. Actually had in my home people who understand how these things work three-letter agencies trying to piece together this complete nonsensical story that is being bullcrapped throughout the ether and i think...I think I have some reasonable theories on what happened here

02:59 And I'm just wondering if i should... Well, before. I've got the perfect clip to set this up. Oh thank you good good good Which is the rundown clip which was it was just couldn't believe this clip It's obviously somebody produced and I think they pass around to a lot of local stations but it was the complete run down all the activity from well once they figure out who it was in their escape attempt and to the right to the finish. And it's loaded with all kinds of embellishments and sound effects. Sound effects? Yes! I take it this is the blow by blow report. Exactly. Back to you. Alright, Vanita thank you

03:43 The manhunt ended about 27 hours after the FBI released the suspects' photos. Here's a closer look at how it all went down. Closer? The chaos began late last night, police called to a shooting on the MIT campus. University police officer Sean Collier was ambushed in his patrol car and killed. At 1130 Boston time, police say the brothers carjacked a man a few blocks away in Cambridge they told the driver they were the marathon bombers Whoa! Hey, didn't hear that one yet. Let me show you my calling card here it's a Marathon bomber oh cool all right where do you want to go? Half hour later they released the man unharmed at a gas station Where surveillance... Which is so in line with what people know they just killed all these people I was like but we're letting you go don't worry about it bro Camera captured this image of Jokar police caught up to the stolen

04:41 car around 1 a.m., then, a running gun battle explosives thrown from the car. Then it got worse police say Tamerlan approached them with a pressure cooker bomb but it malfunctioned Wow! Wow! More than 200 rounds of ammunition were exchanged. Officer Richard Donahue was shot and critically wounded, Tamerlan Tsarnaev dead. Oh wow! So of course the officer I'm sure was shot by these 200 rounds that were flying. He's probably been shot by friendly fire. Oh my goodness oh my goodness this is...

05:31 That's a great clip. And it just... Yeah, I mean we could have produced that too by the way. That was pretty good Is there any more to it? No, that's it. It ended with no It seems like this should be more but and there was actually it ended with them with a which is funny because I must have misclicked Which I've done Hmm it ends with the with more sound effects and then the cheering crowds Oh wait a minute How can this be let me just so just double check and make sure that I didn't like somehow cut it off Well, well okay mom looking for that first of all

CHAPTER 03 / 46 Discussion

Boston Lockdown, Economic Impact and Domestic Terrorism Comparison

The analysis covers the unprecedented lockdown of Boston and the resulting financial damage, estimated by Richard Clark at $350 million. The hosts contrast the massive federal response to the two bombing suspects with the ongoing violence attributed to Mexican gangs and the "M5 group" in California and Richmond. They suggest the media was disappointed that the suspects did not fit a specific domestic political profile.

richard clark· boston lockdown· 666 boylston street· dzhokhar tsarnaev· mexican mafia· richmond

06:09 Mean so I've heard at least four times this this young kids name be mispronounced Or maybe correctly pronounced as Joker Joker. Yes, Joker Joker in naturalized citizen on September 11th 2012 explosion at 666 Boylston Street in Boston please You're insulting me now You're really insulting me with all of this stuff Now Here so I think I shouldn't of course. I have some clips because regardless of what happened here Everyone's taking advantage of it What is no longer working is the you know and the idea that this should have been? That should have been like or it appears a lot of people are very disappointed in The media that it was not like a white dude with a cowboy hat with a Confederate flag

07:05 You know, good old boy in a pickup truck waiting to blow up some people because we've got a black man in the White House. And I hate taxes! We're missing that meme. So that didn't pan out. Obviously there were a lot of people very disappointed about that but of course we have no motive this is this is the big hole and I knew it was all messed up and it was kind of after we had finished the show on Thursday Where the FBI says okay here? We've got pictures they have that they pull the the I found it really funny by the way. I don't if you saw the press conference of the FBI does a press conference Everyone's waiting It's supposed to be at 5 and it's like 505 10 past 5 and there's two easels And on the easels, of course They have a picture of suspect bomber one in Bomber 2 borrow under Barbara

07:56 And I'm blown away that there's all this media sitting there seeing clearly the draped easels. If you're a real journalist, you go up there and pull off the freaking thing and take a look at what is behind the easel! Everyone is like no we'll just wait. We'll wait. It's ten more minutes. We will wait patiently until they can spoon feed us whatever it is they are going to spoon feed us. So when they release these pictures What was blatantly missing from a real manhunt description is approximate height, what kind of creed or race these actors appear to have or be. None of that! It's like watch this video... Oh yeah! And then for hours after that everyone on television

08:48 You know, it's like well look at this. Oh he looks like he has a limp always bowlegged Yeah, everyone is like Dick Tracy now I'm sorry NCIS So but clearly they knew who this was and when you lock down A city which you know This isn't the governor or the mayor doesn't like just locked down the city This has to come from the feds That pretty much only happens when you know exactly who you're going after and you pretty much know what this guy's gonna do or where he is gonna be. A lockdown of a city, that's a huge deal which I love- Apparently according to Richard Kline

09:32 Clark, or as our seemingly inebriated friend revealed some monetary amount. You might want to play this clip... Because we're watching that podium awaiting the president a sentence from you Dick Clark after that press conference Well I'm so happy it turned out this way We do have to admit here that two individuals just two individuals did terrorize a great metropolitan area and horrified a lot of people who were pinned down in their houses today, and did cause enormous amount of damage. And financial damage as well one estimate of 350 million dollars lost today because Boston was pinned down the purpose of terrorism Lennon said was to terrorize they certainly did that it's funny because I saw reports 333 million

10:26 I know you think if anyone's gonna drop the meme out there would be him. Yeah, but it was right You know this guy yeah dick Clark sure yeah Dick Clark dick But but I read three hundred and thirty-three million That's what the headline was so I thought he was gonna say 333, but said 350 huh? Whatever the case is whether it was a coder we already got to code 33 all over the place But it was some great amount of money because you can't shut down a city like this so So, essentially to catch one kid. And by the way while we're on the topic talking about terrorists what about the Mexican mafia? That M5 group and all these gangs that are all over the place during this episode where they're tracking down this one kid

11:13 innocent children were shot dead in Richmond. They didn't shut down Richmond, they're probably not even going to try and catch this guy." I mean this whole thing is so weird because it's like theater on the highest order while people are actually being terrorized by the Mexican gangs in California and elsewhere and the meth lab people and all of the rest of it nobody says anything about that but you got these two boneheads you know that were the whole thing is just lame and then they shut down Boston, they shut down Newtown. It was for two guys that were easily caught apparently one shot in the car I don't know how the other guy got wiggled. Let me give you my theory

CHAPTER 04 / 46 Discussion

Cross-Operation Theory, FBI Relevance and Chechen Connections

A theory is proposed suggesting that the Boston bombing may have been the result of two conflicting operations involving the FBI and CIA. The hypothesis posits that the suspects might have been involved in a "dead drop" exchange of bomb-making materials intended for Chechnya that went wrong. The discussion explores the possibility that the FBI was seeking to demonstrate its relevance following a period of focus on North Korea.

fbi· cia· north korea· chechnya· gunpowder· pressure cooker bombs

11:55 Then we can kind of back into that and there is a part of the theory that I mentioned before That I'm just gonna hold on to which is a placeholder But it appears to me and and after and have discussed this with with several Several producers of the show who? Tend to agree that who also are having trouble piecing a lot of this together. I don't have anyone saying Oh, this is exactly what happened It seems like we had two operations cross each other by really weird coincidence. So, and just bear with me John on the first part of this so I think that based upon the timing it was six weeks we already called out the FBI

12:39 needed to do something and they needed, you know it was time again for them to show their relevance. And what a great opportunity to do this at the Boston Marathon. So that's why they had all kinds of... They had bomb sniffer dogs, they had the drill. You always want to have a drill to show that you're prepared whenever something happens. Literally there were no explosives supposed to go off And it is my belief that the actors that were brought into this were probably working for yet a third party, if you look at FBI CIA and the third party. Let's just indulge me and go along with my theory that maybe

13:28 From an administrative, from the administration you know what was in the news just before this happened it was North Korea North Korea North Korea North Korean which apparently is no longer a threat by the way. No matter what's happening North Korea is gone And I said initially, I said. I think you're gonna find out that these were North Koreans It was like a North Korean setup They were supposed to blow something up But it wasn't going to happen the FBI was going to thwart that So it wasn't gonna be the thin southern white dude with a Confederate flag but it would be North Koreans FBI was going to say oh we caught them and That was going to be the impetus to Obviously do something

14:09 More interesting with North Korea and maybe do something with gunpowder. But what happened is these operatives Actually, and it was supposed to happen at five o'clock. This I heard from multiple sources the explosion was supposed to go off at 5 in time for the six o'clock news cycle instead and Wall Street knew something you know whenever like 9-11 Wall Street always knows And there's all kinds of crazy short selling everything is dropping the markets crashing They know something's gonna happen that's what the markets do when they're aware or something and that just becomes a self fulfilling prophecy These guys turned and that's why I'm saying North Korea. They want to go back to North Korea as heroes So they actually light these things off which is why they were so pansy because yeah, there was supposed to be pressure cookers There was some actual explosive gunpowder material inside but they really were very poor bombs if you really want to have some

15:03 mayhem and mass destruction, and also why set them off at the finish line? Why not do it at the starting line when there's lots of people and celebrities and all kinds of media is really aware at that time. So that was not supposed to happen but at the same time, Has these two these two brothers and I think that these these brothers were Working in conjunction with let's just call it CIA to make it easy To destabilize Russia when this is what Chechnya? Is you know, there's this long-term feud and there are absolute militants trying to destabilize Russia which has agreed to a lot of CIA help and They were doing an exchange

15:50 I think what happened is in crowded places these kids were bringing gunpowder and bomb-making materials, dropping it in a trash bag and then taking another backpack out which would be completed bomb and then shipping that off to Chechnya. So they were just... It was just like cross signals they were dropping something into the trash can which you'll recall was the initial report as the trash can exploded and so they're taking something back, they're unaware of anything that's going on. Bombs go off! They think oh my god that are bombs that we were supposed to be shipping off or we were supposed to be getting picking up and they freak out of course all their contacts go silent so they think everyone is after them but it was their bombs exploded and not some other patsy crap set by FBI and thats where all confusion ensued

16:46 So that, then they're like just off and running. And I don't think it turns out the whole 7-11 thing was not them, not true but they basically just got silenced, completely obliterated and they're being blamed for this which is a big cover up of the whole debacle that took place Well... couple problems with this theory One, I think it's something of a stretch that we have to...that somebody is going to be shipping bombs from the US to Chechnya when they can build their own bombs locally. Or then get them from the Middle East or they can pick up some...you know, they can get somebody from Iraq to do it. That makes zero sense to me that they would be doing especially a dead drop in a garbage can where that was which were all these people around. So I think that's nuts!

CHAPTER 05 / 46 Discussion

North Korea Tensions, B-2 Flyovers and Stealth Capability

The conversation shifts to recent military posturing toward North Korea, specifically the use of B-2 and B-52 flyovers. A clip discusses the "blunt message" sent to Pyongyang regarding U.S. military options and stealth capabilities. The hosts note how North Korean rhetoric quieted down following these maneuvers, though domestic media remained focused on the threat until the Boston events occurred.

north korea· pyongyang· b-2 bomber· b-52· south korea· stealth technology

17:37 As for the North Korea thing, I think that you've been projecting this idea for a while. But there's little tidbits...I think i got it here on the clip list A little tidbit that you may or may not be aware of but the North Korea thing went silent but we did a little interesting kind of apparently warning of sorts That I think go to North Koreans all jittery and then they just shut up Play the interesting North Korean situation and tell me if there's something in here you've never heard of. Thousands of people would die, there was no question about who would prevail in this conflict and there is no question today I think we're even more capable than we were back then but that was the image to me as a way of sending a very blunt message to the North Koreans about what US options were I thought perhaps it was helpful thing just have said at the time

18:32 And I think the the b-52 and B to flyovers the other day sent a very similar message The flyovers you mean, do you know about the be two flyovers? Well, I knew that they did That they were flying b-52s. But I didn't know they did fly overs over North Korea I'd know that they were they were flying around South Korea but it I didn't know that flew over North Korea They they did this obvious and the Koreans started to change everything when they did this I mean you can get a B-2, they say if you do enough research and kind of yeah they supposedly were flying over South Korea. The B-2 can get in and out of anywhere because it's stealth so they can fly it in and then blow... You could fly it over Pyongyang and then blast out of there and say this is what you're going to be dealing with

19:20 saber rattling and then the whole thing very slowly quieted down. No, that's not true because maybe the actual situation quieted down but not the media it was full tilt full-on North Korea until this happened it was North Korea and the gun vote And those were the only two things dominating the US mainstream media. And we were even laughing about it, they got the somersaulting North Korea guy We got the missiles, we've got them marching in the street that continued that was not stopping That was not stopping and maybe my theory is You know, it's obviously not complete and it's obviously just a theory but it really feels to me Just looking at the explosion at the minimal damage quote-unquote that that it did And how these these kids were doing something else. They were they were mixed up with a different they were there you know wrong time wrong place

20:18 And they were complicit in something. But the FBI with their warnings, their drill, the new mass casualty FEMA app was being tested. The Boston police said we're going to do a controlled detonation across from the library at one o'clock in the afternoon which was two hours before this happened and if you look at the public library not the JFK Library which I think was thrown in there for distraction the public library is literally across the street from explosion number two so they were planning some kind of something which went wrong for some reason it went off and uh... and they had to cover that up but i think these two kids were clearly used to covered-up well I'm not saying that there was this wasn't a you know what I mean, I am in agreement with this is something fishy about the whole thing. I just not absolutely convinced about your

21:14 seeing it so complicated as to have bombs go cross-border, exportation of shitty bombs. These things weren't even very good. They were firecrackers! Huge firecrackers! Right they were made with the... It's not really much of a bomb No, not at all. Let me... By the way just as an aside did you see this head of the state police Colonel something or other? He's always a colonel he actually has the birds on his shoulder and he's got this droopy hat. No I didn't see him Oh my god! No, I stay away from all that

CHAPTER 06 / 46 Discussion

Bob Baer Analysis, Professionalism of Bombing Suspects

Former CIA officer Bob Baer provides analysis on CNN regarding the technical aspects of the Boston bombs. Baer suggests that the suspects likely cased the area and had practice, as placing backpacks in police-controlled areas requires a level of "cool" typically seen in trained operatives. The hosts use this to question whether the suspects were acting alone or as part of a larger exchange.

bob baer· piers morgan· fbi· backpacks· surveillance· pressure cooker

21:57 I mean the only thing is a guy, there's a colonel. He's Colonel, our Colonel and he always got his mouth open he looks like the dumbest guy in history. He's got a regular cop's hat but on top of the cops' hats Oh yes! I have seen it yeah that is flopping down on top of the hat Yeah I have seen it Dumbest looking thing I've ever see Well its Boston, this is Boston they're little different up there So taking this into account...I have a couple clips so taking into account that it feels like Two ops got mixed up, you know like or you know something something crossed wires and clearly the FBI We rock we took care of everything. We saved the day didn't pan out the way it was supposed to So here's I like the CIA guy that that's on The Pierce Moran Show Bob Bear

22:48 I like him because he's so out of the loop, but he does have an analytical mind. He looks like a mean guy. I've trained so many people in situations, not bombings but like this. Yeah you have! You've trained people to do pressure cooker bombs you told us all yourself Something always goes wrong Jimmy knows how to make these things but if you take amateurs and have them put a bomb together they make mistakes especially when it revolves the remote control So what does that tell you Bob?

23:24 It tells me that somebody had some practice here and somebody cased the area. I mean, I wouldn't send someone in a backpack into a police-controlled area not sending in someone first to call out and say they're not checking backpacks They probably stuck around to pick up the backpacks if it didn't go off These were cool customers And you know, the question is are there more of them out there whether its domestic or foreign And, you know I just don't know. But the more i hear about this the less I like it This guy didn't just get lucky So he's uninformed but he does realize that maybe there was an exchange a drop off something else is going on and I kind of like that that he saying that but clearly The FBI is getting all the blame particularly from ABC as we know ABC is the direct spokes tube from the White House

CHAPTER 07 / 46 Discussion

FBI Surveillance History, Tamerlan Tsarnaev and Russian Tips

ABC News reports on the FBI's prior investigation into Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011 following a tip from Russian intelligence. The report details Tamerlan's background as a boxer and pianist, and his six-month trip to Russia. The FBI acknowledges that monitoring stopped because no specific ties to terrorism were found at the time, leading to questions about the agency's oversight.

robert mueller· tamerlan tsarnaev· fbi· russian intelligence· caucasus· radicalization

24:18 And of course, the way that they've played it, the way this has been presented, Robert Mueller should resign immediately. because they failed if you believe in the entire security state of the United States of Gitmo, the FBI really messed up and boy are they getting the full blast from ABC. And now to the suspects there are some new details tonight about who they are also some new questions about what exactly the older brother was doing on a six-month trip to Russia and why the FBI investigated him two years ago and then cleared him ABC's senior justice correspondent Pierre Thomas has been on that angle all day. Pierre, good evening to you. Good evening Dan with the manhunt now over the FBI is looking for a motive behind the bombing yes was anyone else involved where did they get that training

25:08 Immigrants from the Russian Caucasus, the brothers came with their parents to the US as children seeking refugee status. They thrived attending top Boston schools. Older brother Tamerlan 26 star athlete golden glove boxer pianist I love the pianist part sounds like your typical guy is gonna blow up some people. Younger brother Johar 19 had just become a U.S. citizen ironically on September 11th of last year Once a lifeguard, he was an all-state wrestler and college student. I certainly can't put it together that he was a person firing a weapon and potentially killing people Last night the FBI acknowledged it interviewed Tamerlan in 2011 based on a tip from the Russians The Russian said he was a radical Islamist preparing to leave the US

25:57 possibly for a trip to the Caucasus. After looking into Tamerlan's phone records, websites he visited and associates, the FBI found no ties to terrorists by law. FBI officials said monitoring had to stop barring new negative information. Too many people in this country just like him that are touching extremist websites, that are espousing things that aren't particularly kind to Americans but that's not against the law here. Tamerland father said his sons couldn't have planned the attack because they knew the FBI was watching them But they apparently were not, and never knew that a dark side of the two brothers had begun to emerge.

CHAPTER 08 / 46 Discussion

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Capture, Boat Standoff and Thermal Imaging

The capture of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in a boat in Watertown is analyzed, with a focus on the tactics used by law enforcement. A clip features a police official explaining the use of flashbangs and thermal imaging from helicopters to track movement under the boat's plastic cover. The hosts criticize the media's questioning and the intensity of the gunfire directed at the boat.

dzhokhar tsarnaev· watertown· flashbangs· wolf blitzer· thermal imaging· infrared

26:49 Oh no, the guy he's a goner. He's dead. I'm sorry this kid is dead Forget about it you know it was like he has a throat injury therefore they can't You know he can't talk so they can't question here's this this is Yeah, here's where to go right? Where'd I got so this is broth And he was in, this is like the funniest clip. Taking into account that it's not really funny when people get blown up but... This is Brol sitting with either the chief of police or the mayor and I think its chief of police and he is asking these stupidest questions

27:30 Even if you don't know what a flashbang is, just the way he asked the questions. Rolf Blitzer should be dragged behind a motorcycle through the streets of Boston This guy's an idiot. uh... in eventually we have to use some flash banks too when it is so subject to the last night this is a lot of compression uh... that would stun somebody for sharp period time and then we began negotiations it slowly over fifteen twenty minute period were able to get him to stand up in show us that he didn't have a device on his side he's lying in this boat he's been there for several hours

28:09 He's wounded clearly right he's bleeding, right? He's obviously weak you come over there And and what do you say to him you have a bullhorn. You start saying come up with your hands off No that's in the Westerns broth What we have we having Negotiator it was actually on the second floor of the house looking down at the boat But will we know we couldn't see it as a plastic top all of them, but we could have no okay so You could see him, and Brof knows exactly what's going on but he treats us like the viewers are complete idiots. We had a state police helicopter that could tell us when there was movement in the boat by the heat sensor so we can tell if it was alive and moving as we began negotiations that way over long period of time were able to finally get him to surrender reporters on this scene

29:02 heard like a volley of gunshots going off maybe two dozen or so who was firing those guns it was back and forth when we were see firing in my understanding yes I'm pretty sure it was he was firing from the boat right right and there was through the plastic they saw him poking oh he's poking you is poking something out through the plastic if you will of the boat and then gunfire. Hold on a second, so these cops probably ruined this guy's boat? No it's completely obliterated there are already people trying to raise money for the hero who found him in the boat to buy him a new boat. Oh yeah that's crazy. And you say they had sophisticated vision equipment from a helicopter? Oh yeah! Sophisticated vision equipment called a camera. Because see through

29:51 through the boat cover. X-ray vision we've got! Or if you will to see what there was movement underneath right? We knew it was a body in that boat through the state police helicopter That could have been a bomb sleeping there, but we decided just obliterate him no matter what It's heat seeking so he has a higher body temperature than the boat would So every time he moved we could see that on the uplink So of course this kid is dying, and they really just want him to bleed out because they just want to find him dead. And one of the CNN experts taught me a new word... My concern is whether or not this young man, 19 year old took maybe a couple rounds, there's a lot of bullets went into that car and into his brother

CHAPTER 09 / 46 Discussion

Peter King Criticism, Suspects' Mother and Asylum Claims

Congressman Peter King reacts to statements from the suspects' mother, who claimed her sons were set up by the FBI. King dismisses her claims as "offensive," citing the asylum and opportunities provided to the family by the United States. The hosts discuss the mother's insistence that her sons were under FBI control for years and King's refusal to acknowledge prior surveillance.

peter king· cnn· zubeidat tsarnaeva· fbi setup· asylum· chechnya

30:35 I don't see how he escaped with having none and, and i just wonder if he's gone to Ness someplace and uh... exsanguinated that would be a concern of mine. I have to say I- Exsanguinate? That's actually if you watch some of the- that show that it has been used alot on television shows. I've never heard this word before! Exsanguinate Which just shows you how insane these guys are. You know what it means? Exanguinate, bleed out! Yeah it literally means to bleed out but I guess its a pretty word for bleeding out exanguinate So taking advantage of this is of course Peter King who we played on Thursday where he's like this is actually a good thing It's good because we can get more money for the police state

31:21 So he's on CNN and of course we had this mother call in And his mother calls in and says, this is impossible. You know there's no way this could happen Mr.. Oil actually Who speaks fluent Russian said that he listened to her tell her story on Russian television? In Russia, and he said it was uncanny It was word-for-word exactly the same story she she's been spouting on CNN another Other news outlets meaning that she's reading from a script Right. He says, Adam I could have played them side by side word for word the exact same sentence structures everything the same and it's two different languages but Peter King he really this guy really really takes the prize when it comes to politicizing anything like this. ...on right now with a surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon terrorist attacks now we're hearing for the first time from his mother

32:23 It's impossible, impossible for them to do such things. So I am really telling that this is a set up. My son would tell me my son never would keep it in secret So I would know whoever would be to you know knowing that there is anyone who knows it could be me He would never he would never hide it from me. It will tell me that but never ever even a word I love how they open the mic on Peter King in anticipating his coming and when you hear we listen the audio these things pretty cool To hear how shitty they are at production at CNN my youngest one was raised actually like read from from eight years an

33:08 He was raised in America. And my oldest son, he is really properly raised in our house and nobody talked about the terrorism. My son Tamerlan got involved with religious politics five years ago So he started following his own religious accepts and he never, he never told me that he would be on the side of jihad. He was controlled by FBI for like 5 years. They knew what my son was doing they knew what actions and what besides on internet he was going. How could this happen?

33:55 How could they? They were controlling everything. I'm sorry, this is longer than i thought it was. I just want to get to Peter King. Today the defense a... Let me forward it. As the mother of the suspects in the Boston Marathon terrorist attacks, Jahar Narzaev and Timerlan Tsarnaev, she was pleading that they... she did not believe the charges against. We have also confirmed that the suspect's father was questioned by Russian security forces but he has been released I want to bring back Congressman Peter King for his reaction to this. Congressman King obviously parents like to believe the best about their children is there anything at the mother said that surprises you?

34:33 Well, I don't find any of it to be true and i think would be better. And again... It's impossible! This can't be true! Must be traumatic for the mother and the father but again that we say in the FBI set them up with the FBI control is absolutely wrong and truly offensive here's a country that gave sanctuary gives asylum United States and to you We gave you asylum, we gave you a country. How can you say this about our FBI who set up patsies every six weeks? To turn against the country like this is bad enough what their sons did but for the parents to attack the country to me it's wrong I also wonder about his father who went back to Russia he said or Chechnya for medical condition I don't know why anyone would leave Boston which has best hospitals in the world Because you can't afford it maybe? I dunno Why would you want to leave Boston that sounds like nuts

35:21 to go back to Russia. It makes no sense! Two of them, to be lashing out at the United States... Listen I don't blame them for saying good things about their sons even though they're murderers but that would be a parent's compassion. Hey thanks for pointing that out there Peter. Also without trial. Yeah oh yeah of course. What the United States did for them and the opportunities that the United States gave to their sons is really going... This is almost done, this is the guy though you gotta watch him. Much much too far and I just find it really wrong. Congressman King the mother seemed to be suggesting that the FBI knew about her sons before this week do you know anything about what she's talking about were they on the radar of law enforcement in any way?

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Informant Recruitment Tactics, FBI and CIA Methods

The discussion explores how federal agencies recruit young, intelligent immigrants as informants within religious organizations. The hosts suggest that the Tsarnaev brothers may have been targeted for recruitment due to their education and backgrounds. They describe a pattern where individuals are coerced into cooperation under threat of imprisonment or harm to their families.

fbi· cia· informants· entrapment· radicalization· mosque

36:10 I'm not aware of that at all. It's always possible somebody could be on a list somewhere, but i can assure you there was absolutely no issue of control So right now he is admitting they were under FBI surveillance? In any way the FBI knowing this was going to happen or happened so again I see no basis in what she said now shoot him there he's just a blowhard that guy but the what do you think about this I mean I am there some something going on because this is a botch and i actually would be inclined if somebody had some evidence I would be inclined to believe that both these guys especially the older brother were actually

37:00 recruited by the FBI or CIA possibly but yeah okay one of the two you know or anybody I mean it's God knows what's out there and that would was why the one brother was turning to the religion so much because that would be what you want him to do. You wanted us get in, you wanted him to be an insider yes they were managing his YouTube account Yeah, and so the whole thing was because the FBI has done this over and over again And then of course they have two approaches one They either use them as an informant inside in organization if the guys it Smart and both these kids were you know one was at Dartmouth there weren't stupid One played the piano. And so they would they would normally use these guys's as insight informants especially if they can get him into a good mosque

37:49 Yeah. Or if the guys are idiots, which happens most of the time they have them you know push a dial phone number and pretend to blow up the Bank of America and nothing happens in their throw him in jail so that's your choices So you go up to one of these kids say here's what's gonna happen You're gonna work for us And here is what you're gonna do? You're either going to do this or we're gonna set you up and We're going to throw you in jail then will kill your mother Yeah, we'll kill your mother. And so they... So I would suspect that would be more likely but now that then so they have to kill these kids so they killed the one The other one can't talk and he's not He's gonna die. He's a goner and it's gonna be a sad day for you know It was all is terrible But we try we capture them alive just couldn't survive with all bullet holes in him

CHAPTER 11 / 46 Discussion

Al Sharpton MSNBC Report, Boston Manhunt Details

A segment from Al Sharpton's show on MSNBC covers the final stages of the manhunt in Watertown. Sharpton reports on the possibility of the suspect wearing a suicide vest and the use of blood trails to track his movement. The hosts mock the production quality and the inclusion of the suspects' uncle calling them "losers."

al sharpton· msnbc· watertown· suicide vest· blood trail

38:38 So I have one final clip which is kind of MSNBC wrapping it all up and this is their executive director, he's the top dog in the news organization. He's so happy He has a big smile on his face because they put him on 30 Rock Before you do that I do, since before we wrap. I do want to get a couple of... Sharpton was on MSNBC. Oh lovely! And i just want to make sure that we recognize the fact that this guy is actually working for MSNBC he's an NBC employee and if you play Sharpton Reports 1 you get a feeling for how the high quality goes into these organizations. This is a Sharpton Reports one? Yeah

39:27 Authorities say the surviving suspect may be armed with explosives or even a suicide vest. He may also be injured some reports say police tracked him during the manhunt by his blood trail, His uncle spoke out today I said Jahar if you're alive turn yourself in and ask ask for forgiveness. There's no real conflict! So the main thing is this guy, this uncle I had the clip and then i accidentally erased it which was where he goes they're losers yeah they're losers

CHAPTER 12 / 46 Discussion

Erica Hill Career Shift, NBC Freelance Reporting

The hosts discuss the career trajectory of journalist Erica Hill, noting her move from CBS to NBC. They comment on her being seen doing "stand-up" reporting in the streets of Watertown as a freelancer. An anecdote is shared about a chaotic live shot where she was nearly hit by a car, illustrating the unscripted nature of the breaking news coverage.

erica hill· nbc· cbs· watertown· the today show· tech tv

40:08 but yeah the other one I want to get out of the way then i won't have to worry about letting these things are hanging on a right linger so we had didn't in you you'll be able to wrap this up but as one another aside we had a situation all the morning shows where they were there shaking up the groups you know lowers like under attack and over on the CBS show which is always that the third rate 1 they fired do whether anchors Erica Hill I worked with Erica because she was over at Tech TV and i know her. And you know, she was a fine morning anchor making...I don't know how many millions she was making but she quit CBS and went to work for NBC and then I guess they just marginalized the poor woman and you know they're kind of the pecking order. During this episode of this track down these two guys they made her stand up

41:02 Wait a minute, they said they brought her back as a freelance to be on the street? Yes. After they fired her? No no she went to work for NBC and she was going to end up doing The Today Show on The Weeknds Oh right right right And but meanwhile they gave her a job as a stand-up so here she is and then to make it even more insulting to the woman She's on The Sharpton Show! So he introduced her, she's out in the street and the cops are yelling and screaming in the background. They don't even have her mic'd there you can tell because she moves around She's on the shotgun Oh my god

41:40 Let's go to NBC's Erica Hill, who is now live in Watertown Massachusetts. Erica we understand there is some commotion going on? Yeah definitely a little bit of commotion what we saw here just the past couple minutes you can hear it behind me they are getting people to clear the roads so that more vehicles can come through We saw what appeared to be three SWAT vehicles which have been at this road that's just off my right shoulder for some period of time right after we finished that press conference You know your career is not going well when this happens to you Right there she almost gets hit by a car Wow I saw Aaron burn it

42:30 And who I think at some point was drunk, but it makes no sense to play the audio. But I think someone walked by and pinched her butt because she does one of those... And she looks really angry and annoyed because he was talking while this is taking place. I think someone goosed her. It was very funny. Again it was not a controlled situation. This is not your typical script or your typical setup really they had to fly by the seat of their pants. You know this is not the way it's normally, it's all orchestrated and there's a place for the press to stand. That's because I think you were correct that bombs weren't meant to go off. So here's MSNBC wrapping it up. Their executive news director again he's really like jizzing all over himself because last night

CHAPTER 13 / 46 Discussion

Richard Engel, Jihadist Chat Rooms and Lone Wolves

NBC's Richard Engel discusses the reaction to the Boston bombing on password-protected jihadist forums. Engel reports that while the suspects were viewed as "lone wolves" rather than a sleeper cell, sympathizers celebrated the economic and psychological toll on the United States. The hosts compare Engel's description of the forum comments to their own show's chat room observations.

richard engel· nbc news· brian williams· jihadist· chat rooms· lone wolves

43:20 30 Rock asked him to be on to explain, you know so he's moved up that's from cable to network You know this is a big deal. So he's really excited but the things coming out of his mouth are about the celebratory jihadist websites what show this is on the 30 Rock is not the name of the show no no no Brian Williams show I'm gonna show you but this is him on MSNBC but he's really glib because he's been like you know the guy to go on network and he knows cuz cuz he's the expert now so he's received some briefing. But listen to him describe How people are talking the jihadists. Okay, so he apparently has access to he knows where to look and he's got access to Jihadist chat rooms which have read it special code now. He knows Special Code I swear that it's got a password Yeah, you got a password

44:12 It sounds like he's talking about our chat room. I swear to God, listen. Let's get more on the suspects international links to do that i'm joined here in studio by NBC News chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel with a big welcome to you Richard we're glad you're here You know him? Engle We've talked about him before He is their number one yeah we he's pretty funny. He dramatizes stuff, like Rock Center. He was on rock center that's what it is. I loved what you said on Rock Center last night fascinating about how this... This is what you do when your in cable right? When your down low on the rung and you're like man you were so great! I love your work man It was so great last night just hoping this woman who saying this to him just hoping that she'll be in his good graces because he's clearly rising

44:56 when he moves up to network that she can be sucked along in his wake. Am I right? I think you're generally right, Angle's been around for a while so i don't know if he is rising. I'm joined here by NBC News Chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel with a big welcome to you Richard we are glad your here. I loved what you said on Rock Center last night fascinating about how this has all sparked so much on terrorists to your audience websites, talk about that. Okay talk about that now let's listen well all day yesterday while the city of Boston was surrounded and covered with police and they were sweeping house-to-house there are

45:35 jihadi chat forums. These are chat rooms sometimes they're password protected other times you just need to know where they are because I'm so cool, I'm angle and there were a lot of al-qaeda sympathizers people who pay attention chat room believe in the cause believe the United States is on a crusade against Islam and they were very much celebrating what was going on in Boston because uh... they were filled with statements like look at what United States government is spending all the millions of dollars on security that are being wasted Look at the people who are being locked into their homes and our cowering in fear. This is This is our chat room John this does not jihadist websites as our chatroom says these things And the general consensus was that the this these two brothers were more or less lone wolves that they weren't part

46:30 a major organization, that there was not a group in Chechnya that deployed them and sent them as a sleeper cell and then pushed the button to activate them. They were people who are self-reliant. inspired by the cause, and these jihadi chat rooms thought that was great. And they were encouraging other people to do the same follow their example and then on Rock Center what I mentioned to Brian last night is... Brian! I just said it with Brian and I for a moment. Hey Bri! This by the way was fantastic. Somehow

CHAPTER 14 / 46 Discussion

Police Militarization, Urban Camouflage and Public Response

The discussion turns to the heavy military equipment used by local police during the Boston lockdown, including Humvees and Blackhawk helicopters. The hosts critique the use of jungle and desert camouflage in an urban environment. They also analyze the "Boston Strong" phenomenon and the public's celebratory reaction toward the militarized police force.

militarization· swat· humvees· blackhawk· camo· boston strong

47:18 Everybody who was locked in their doors went out to Kmart and bought flags because they knew they would come in handy when they were there to wave the heroes, SWAT teams and give them a standing ovation waving their little flags. Did you see some of those? They had... these guys rolling in and they set, set armored cars and Humvees and the whole thing. Oh yeah! And my favorite one was this which got me the Keystone Cop meme was this one big giant square boxy looking thing with guy's hanging off of it all around That's the leg road It looked like a Jitney from Indonesia filled with a bunch of peasants hanging on for dear life

47:59 of a smoky Joe. And they were all in military garb with all kinds of... Oh yeah, that's your police. Remember when I was growing up my mom always said You know if you get lost or if there's something wrong, you can always go to a police officer and ask them for help. And that's what the police officers are for. But that guy is now dressed in full combat fatigues with a fully automatic assault weapon... Camo? Camo! And he's driving a tank! Tank I tell you our police. This is the sir like I've come just what this country's come to an army Just a ridiculous police state so then there's the other group that do guys that are sitting ducks because they're wearing this day-glow green Like if there was a sniper around you could pick these guys off like like ducks hey and who? Who's Blackhawk or was that is that the police do they have those two, or is that the military? And who's flying the black hawk said what oh

49:01 They never said who's it was. But it's just like, oh there's the Blackhawk landing... Yeah! It's a fucking black hawk! Boston police, Newton police, Newtown police State police and uh And the sheriff I like the MS Small Biz says Camouflage works really well in this city That's a great point. Urban camo? It was not urban camo, it was friggin' desert camo! So that's what they were wearing... No actually they weren't wearing desert camo they were wearing the jungle- Jungle camo? Most of them I'm sorry you cut out What were you saying? They were wearing urban camo most of them Hmm looks like jungle camo. It's that computerized looking thing. It doesn't do anything makes it look like weirdo but

49:50 It's what they were. Let me finish up this wonderful 20 seconds left on Engel. And they weren't terrorized and they looked very relaxed Boston Stronged! We're not accepting to be terrorized. We were told to go inside because we were told and now, we are going to applaud the police. And that's a mess. They were told! We did what they were told! Yes and we waved our flags! I'm sure they didn't intend to send but it was directly in contrast to what these forums were saying all day that people were effectively broken down emotionally Instead they were out celebrating. Emotionally kaput! But that's what Dick Clark said, he said these two kids terrorized if you got terrorized you can't be standing strong I mean these messages are mixed it is terrible this is the worst thing they've ever done and here's the irony to the whole thing

CHAPTER 15 / 46 Discussion

Terrorism Frequency, Homeland Security and Constitutional Rights

The hosts question the necessity of the massive Homeland Security apparatus given the relative rarity of major domestic terror events. They compare the door-to-door searches in Watertown to the actions of King George III, noting the irony of such events occurring in Boston, the birthplace of the American Revolution. They argue that the public has become conditioned to accept martial law.

homeland security· fourth amendment· martial law· king george iii· revolution

50:46 This is just, this is going to encourage because of all the ridiculous attention these two guys got. It's great! It's gonna encourage copycats Exactly Oh hold on a second Hello? Boston this is Jersey calling we want our strong back The hell was that Since when did this become proper English It's never been proper English. Boston Strong, it's this is... We're gonna have an outbreak maybe was but how about this for off-the-wall concept? Maybe this was done for the sole purposes the overreaction and the rest of it to get more people to do this because we're not getting any action when it comes to terrorism. We need more action, there you go! There hasn't been shit going on ever since 9-11 has been over 12 years and nothing's really happened you know all we got we have we need more Homeland Security I mean why? There is no action there's nothing going on no Muslims move over here and they just open our restaurant

51:45 Oh, oh, oh! Mr. D.C. Vorak Open up the door, Jim Dyer! Now! We had one made for you So yeah thanks I appreciate that actually so and so i think maybe is it possible that this thing was actually wasn't a botched plan but exactly what we wanted to do overreact and make a big stink just to draw some people out because they can't draw anybody out to do anything dummies because people come here like yeah I'm gonna blow the crap hey this is not so bad here hold on a sec girls are pretty it's a great spot for a restaurant are you nuts I'm gonna blow this up well unfortunately this is of course going to be misused and I'm already hearing you know

52:34 Oh boy, I'm already hearing people say oh you know this is the problem we need more. We need obviously the FBI needs more money because they don't have the right resources and this is a sad state of affairs Well that's the... You know? I know that No Agenda listeners who've listened to show more than three or four times They must have watched this with shaking their head the whole time. It's so obvious, but the average member of the public which is 99% they're all in! Oh my god it could happen here! Let's get more security at BART

53:15 Well, no but the what's really sad is you get like this Engel guy is saying it was like You know where Boston strong American strong we won't be terrorized now. You're being terrorized by your own police force They're terrorizing you forcing you to stay in your home and just call martial law then you don't know either way they were rousing did this was a Did you see the group of cops is SWAT team whole group of them? They'd be patty pound on some door in Newtown Which is similar to the other water town. You mean Waterton one fact that Erica Hill said a Newton Oh, really well there isn't there's a newton there is a newton there isn't Massachusetts anyway so

53:58 The cops got everybody out of the house and then they went in with their guns, you know? And then they searched the place. This is King George III! Yeah exactly And this is Boston where the whole revolution began? Ah, now you're making some sense because yes of course this is symbolic. Very symbolic to do this in Boston where the Revolution began absolutely yeah absolutely and there is a Fourth Amendment here the cops don't just have the right to come in and just like roust you no matter what the situation is but who's gonna say no we got a tank

CHAPTER 16 / 46 Discussion

Ricin Letters, Elvis Impersonator Paul Kevin Curtis

The FBI arrested Paul Kevin Curtis, an Elvis and Jon Bon Jovi impersonator from Mississippi, for allegedly mailing ricin-laced letters to President Obama and other officials. The hosts highlight the bizarre nature of the story, including Curtis's five-star rating on an impersonator website. They suggest such stories are designed to distract the general citizenry.

ricin· paul kevin curtis· elvis impersonator· barack obama· mississippi· fbi

54:38 and a black hawk front so what am I gonna do guys at Campbell and armor with the automatic weapons yeah hmm inside edition had a great report in this so did you hear we're doing here on the no agenda show often referred to as the best podcast in the universe and it's true because we have a jingle when you have a jingle that accentuates the fact And so you're right, people who listen to NOAGENDA that means more than once a couple times and so they have this thinking and we don't have all the answers of course not. Things may appear over time. We have healthy skepticism. And we have analysis, analysis not interrupted or thwarted by commercial messages

55:25 However, the general citizenry of the United States this is the type of reporting they get. an Elvis impersonator. Jim Array unearthed incredible video. This is fantastic. The FBI says he's caught the man responsible for sending letters laced with a deadly poison ricin to President Obama and two other officials, and he is of all things Elvis impersonator. Paul Kevin Curtis was arrested at his apartment in Corinth, Mississippi around 6 o'clock Wednesday night the 45 year old not only does a spot-on Elvis impersonation oh yeah he's great we can hear that and he also does Jon Bon Jovi

56:21 Man that is so spot-on Bon Jovi. I mean it's like I could see I had to wipe my eyes Like Richie Sambora is just walking into my living room now He's got a five star rating on his impersonator website Oh five star rating well pages full of glowing reviews Kevin You delivered a truly spectacular performance for my parents' 50th wedding anniversary. Now the whole nation wants to know what in the world could have made this Elvis impersonator snap and mail deadly poison to the president and two others? It's something the FBI is looking into." Oh yes, they're looking into it! I mean... And this is people... oh man wow man.. This is the perfect story

57:08 for the real true American citizenry. You've got Elvis in there, we got like Bon Jovi... He also does Hank Williams Jr., and he's got a five-star rating and he's available for your 50th wedding anniversary! People now let's thank our two producers and by the way, I would just back on that Yeah, let's just do it because like because they don't have the I have it here. I'll do it So we were at the market yesterday. Yes. That was very funny We had like a mini impromptu meetup At them at the Austin farmers market

CHAPTER 17 / 46 Discussion

No Agenda Meetup, Austin Farmers Market and Peerage

Adam Curry describes an impromptu meetup at the Austin farmers market with several show producers. The conversation transitions into a discussion about the No Agenda peerage system and the roles of sheriffs and constables. Dvorak shares an anecdote from Las Vegas about the specific duties of a constable, such as serving eviction notices and restraining orders.

austin· farmers market· peerage· sheriff· constable· las vegas

57:53 We had Jane and Mike, our local Austin producers who actually are pretty much responsible for getting us here in the first place. They organized the very first original meetup during the Hot Pockets Tour Then there was Sergine who rolled in from Dallas. Sergine actually I believe thinking of moving to Austin And we had two of our producers from North Carolina, Bill and Sherry who had heard you know our conversations about Austin and were in town looking to relocate. And so I'm like jamming with Farmer Chris about the eggs and stuff and all sudden you get like an in the morning and then people just showing up at the market now! So we have like a nice little coffee at Halcyon and Sir Gene

58:39 handed over $350 cash to a Ms. Mickey as a cash donation. We'll make him the executive producer along with Thomas Staniszewski from Newmarket, New Hampshire who came in with it a check 3333 without a comment because it was a bank check that came from one of the banks so we don't know what uh... Sir Gene um you know he's multiple night at this point and I said to him, dude why don't you like get in the peerage? You're probably a baron by now or you can up your title. He wants to be an Earl Well he wants to know if he can be sheriff A Sheriff is not a peerage position Or a Marshal

59:29 Well, that's not either. He can make him... well you know he could be let's think about how to do this. Hold on there was a sheriff in Robin Hood there was the Sheriff of Nottingham Forest. It wasn't from it wasn't it's not it's not a land holder uh the sheriff. He doesn't want to hold land! I will if he wants to be sheriff instead yeah I think that's what of Texas. No, I think it's share. You know what? So i'm in Las Vegas and the constable goes by and so so I go up to the cop at that because there was a impending riot that was going to take place outside of the convention center and now there is bunch of cops around And so I go up to this cop and say you know what kind of... how are police organized around here The guy by the way this cop from San Jose

1:00:37 He says, yeah he said that the police are organized better in Vegas than they are anywhere in California where there's too many people at you know sheriff department and county cops and the locals and the BART police and all the rest around here. I said, what's the constable? The constable drove by and I said, well it's a constable. What is the constable? He says oh yeah so here we only have really two...we have one group which is the police department and sheriff departments combined It's one group of police in this he says much easier to deal with. He says that constable only has one job And the constable's job is to... Is ride around apparently. No, no! Eviction notices... Yeah that's good for sure Gene. Restraining orders and all of the really worst jobs. That's a horrible... All you're doing is just telling people they can't do this and that you just think you're in your one it serves all the papers. Nobody wants to be the constable

CHAPTER 19 / 46 Discussion

Show Artwork, Producer Burnout and Conspiracy Skepticism

The hosts comment on a recent decline in new artwork submissions for the show, speculating on producer burnout. They discuss the difficulty of testing theories with the general public, who often default to the explanation that "crazy people do crazy things" rather than considering deeper institutional involvement.

artwork· dennis cruz· producer· conspiracy· crazy people

1:04:35 We go out we hit people in the mouth And also thank you to Dennis Cruz for the artwork that we use on episode 505 Another thing our artwork is falling off them off the lead case in point. This is what I all we always say this when the artwork sucks When the past two episodes... Bruce's artwork is fine, the art was good but we had to dig 20 episodes back to find it. There was no content- art being done on the spot No But you know what? These artists get burned out I don't know it just sign of bigger thing Maybe this... Here we go again Well John maybe everyone just like buying into and they're like oh You know I catch people saying

1:05:32 You know, so I go through my theories and I test it with people. And then you know at a certain point like yeah this is really weird really don't know and then be like well you know sometimes just crazy people do crazy things! I'm like no sorry that's not true now it's just not like this...not like this Yeah no crazy people do crazy things is what's going on in Oakland you know or what goes on when some maniac jumps off the bridge he got nothing no connection to anything It was just some guy jumped off the bridge uh... now this is to which it would be too many police involved in a b agencies involved too many guys and camo the guys that i have not been locked down lockdown well-earned regardless you know i'm only i was almost thinking of good script would be

CHAPTER 20 / 46 Discussion

Federal Register, Foreign Military Assistance Waivers

An analysis of the Federal Register reveals several waivers signed by the Obama administration to provide military assistance and financing to foreign governments, including Lebanon, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, and Saudi Arabia. The hosts also discuss $130 million in "non-lethal" aid for Syrian rebels and the positioning of 20,000 U.S. troops in Jordan.

federal register· john kerry· syria· jordan· lebanon· military assistance

1:06:20 The whole thing was just staged so they could rob the mint or something. You know, they locked down Boston... Right! They go in there and steal all the money somewhere along the way. It's a good storyline Yeah it is And the next thing you know, they let everyone go back to work and nobody notices. Well there are of course a couple things that are not getting attention Number one is... well actually if I look at the Federal Register this is quite telling The Federal Register is really what the news outfit should be reading but they don't

1:06:55 or they do, or they just don't report on it. Whatever So a number of waivers came through all waivers regarding Here it is section 7031 b3 of the Department of State foreign operations and related programs appropriation act of 2012 which of course restricts what can be sold or What can be? lent or financed to foreign countries as it pertains to military equipment.

1:07:32 And so we have one, two three four five six waivers of restriction on assistance to certain governments. Meaning that we can not only send military equipment but we can send personnel, we can send money it's all a waiver as determined by this Appropriations Act for foreign operations. Foreign Operations is code for I don't know fucking other people up does that sound fair enough John in other countries? Maybe. Okay, so we have a waiver of restriction on assistance to the central government of Lebanon, waiver on restriction of assistance in the central government of Libya, waiver on restriction of assistance in the central government of Egypt, waiver on restriction of assistance to government of Yemen, waiver on restrictions of assistance to central government of Algeria and

1:08:21 Hello and waiver on restriction of assistance to the central government of Saudi Arabia in addition to that the president announced 130 million dollars in additional money going to Non non-lethal assistance To the resistance in Syria. So again, I think John Kerry and his big waterhead are gonna show up in Syria with a giant check Here's your check Come and get it! Of course, this is not going to the rebels. It's going to American companies... ...to then ship via Turkey night-vision goggles and bulletproof vests because that's nonlethal assistance And the president announced that we are well The president really announced this but looks like up to 20 thousand troops will be positioned in Jordan of course bordering on Syria

1:09:20 So, I think there's something going on there. Yeah, I've heard that and uh...I'm a little outraged that $130 million is one thing but 20 thousand troops how much does that cost per day? Lots! And meanwhile we've got half of America... We're just being reported they were putting twenty thousand troops over there I'm sorry, I do something with those guys are pulling out of Afghanistan. Yeah But meanwhile we got like 40 million people on food stamps in America Are you kidding me? It's crazy also in the Federal Register just while we're on it this is great for GE This isn't very weird by notice dated January 31st published in the Ranger GE healthcare

CHAPTER 21 / 46 Discussion

GE Healthcare, Cocaine Importation Approval

The Federal Register indicates that GE Healthcare has been approved by the DEA to import small quantities of cocaine analogs. The company intends to use the substance to validate production and quality control systems for future drug submissions. The hosts joke about the potential for "synthetic coke" and the alertness of NBC news anchors.

ge healthcare· cocaine· dea· drug enforcement administration· pharmaceutical

1:10:12 and made application by renewal to the DEA, Drug Enforcement Administration to be registered as an importer of cocaine. And this has been approved the company plans to import small quantities in the form of three separate analogs of cocaine to validate production and quality control systems for a reference standard and for producing material for a future investigational new drug submission so they get to import cocaine General Electric? Healthcare. GE Healthcare So they've got some kind of cocaine testing machine apparently That's the find of the day The company plans to import small quantities in the form of three separate analogs of cocaine To validate production and quality control systems Small quantities mean, where are they getting it Well that doesn't say But their allowed to import it

1:11:10 So, Columbia I guess. You're going to see a lot of activity over at GE! Maybe we'll see the NBC News anchors a little more awake. They've got something that Diane Sawyer... Well she's ABC so she doesn't count. No, no it's what i'm saying they have to slip it over there but they're also producing material for a future investigational new drug I mean that's great yes synthetic cocaine. Synthetic coke? Yeah that's what everyone needs. Hell yeah bring it on So before we get away from all these bombers, we didn't mention the Texas thing which has always been... Mimi was just completely beside herself apparently spending her time on Facebook arguing with the people saying oh we have to have the donate. There's a Red Cross donation, donate to Boston! Donate to Boston you know it's like so she's beefing that they got insurance at Boston is a bunch of marathon runners this is not

CHAPTER 22 / 46 Discussion

West Texas Fertilizer Plant Explosion, OSHA Inspections

The discussion covers the explosion at a fertilizer plant in West, Texas, involving ammonium nitrate. The hosts critique commentator Thom Hartmann's argument that the disaster proves the need for "big government," noting that regulations already existed but inspections had not occurred since 1985. The segment ends with a tangent about the high salaries of media figures like Matt Lauer.

west texas· fertilizer plant· ammonium nitrate· osha· thom hartmann· matt lauer

1:12:07 If you want to donate to anybody, donate to the West Texas town that got obliterated. Yeah and by the way Massachusetts got a state of emergency funds The president signed off on it immediately I have not seen that for Texas No no you won't see it either And then we have this idiot Thom Hartman who comes out and this is kind of the follow up report he has He has his little panel that he tries to do That just doesn't work because he's not a good panel host But play this crazy assertion that he makes here on his show. ...feels that West Chemical and Fertilizer Company, the plant in Texas west... The west is actually the town it's not the part of Texas its little teeny tiny town down in Texas had not been inspected by OSHA since 1985 And they were sitting on enough of this ammonium nitrate which is what Tim McVeigh used in his bomb to blow up West Texas which is what happened

1:13:01 And although they had, in 2006 they'd been cited for not having good risk management. Paid a fine but nobody had inspected them I would submit that this is a good example of why we need big government. So Adam, in your libertarian world... Is he as Kokesh on there? Whatever his name? The way you solve these problems is these people die and thing blows up and everybody else goes oh that's terrible let's not do that This actually an example of why big government wouldn't have saved these people There was already regulations on the books But there was no inspection! The government wasn't big enough No they were quite big enough

1:13:39 gone down there anytime they wanted to and taken a look under the hood. There are enough inspectors to inspect once every 67 days. They were paid off. It's Laurel and Hardy I'm telling you this guy, i don't get this kind of logic How much do you think he makes a year? You know if you were let's see Brian or uh Lauer Matt Lauer makes 25 million dollars a year No no yes yeah no yeah no yes Please you can't know Matt Lauer salary 25 million the guy auditioned for vh1 Well, it's a Wikipedia says it's 25 million But Wikipedia also has my height is 4 1 so you know no this is not from Wikipedia. Yes It's a I'm looking at wiki yes contract became pretty public

1:14:30 25 you always get the feeling you have some belief that these guys aren't making any money All you have to do is the math on O'Reilly no No, I what he makes deal with that show makes on a daily basis and why he makes so much money You know I died. I am very familiar with media salaries and they've always been overhyped I just don't believe twenty five million dollars Okay, yeah, I mean they may say that but I don't think he's making well Let's get back to the point What do you think this guy's making? I think he makes it I think he probably makes about 40,000 a year. I'm thinking 38! Doesn't he have a radio show? Yeah, yeah that breaks it in two. Nah, I'm sure he's making money on the radio show. No... maybe. Yeah. The syndicators take most of that money. Do you think he is doing better than we are? Well by todays numbers he is. Thanks, not really health. So I was

CHAPTER 23 / 46 Discussion

DEA Director Michelle Leonhart, Marijuana Legalization Hearing

DEA Director Michelle Leonhart testifies before Congress regarding marijuana legalization in Washington and Colorado. Leonhart claims that medical marijuana dispensaries lead to increased crime and that there are more dispensaries than Starbucks in Los Angeles. The hosts criticize her testimony as uninformed and mock her use of Starbucks as a metric for drug prevalence.

michelle leonhart· dea· marijuana· dispensaries· starbucks· frank wolf

1:15:25 watching some hearings being sick of this Boston bull crap. And so I ran into this hearing, and this is the worst ever! There's this guy...and by the way you can play it get your finger ready on the douchebag button. This was hearing on marijuana with Michelle... Wait a minute was conveniently timed for April 20th 420? Is that why all this taking place It could be. Whatever the case was, yesterday by the way it was 420. That's correct Thanks for all the four 20s everybody Yeah we didn't get one big help We don't have a lot of dope smokers apparently listening to this show You should google this woman Michelle Leonhart L E O N H A R T who is the director Of the DEA She's the top dog she's an idiot Haven't we played her before where she doesn't know nothing?

1:16:24 She doesn't know nothing. Yeah, we've definitely... And she just sounds like a moron! So they had this Frank Wolf and anyone in Virginia, this is a Republican, anyone in Virginia who's got Frank Wolf as their representative should vote him out! Besides by the way everybody in this hearing sounded stoned And there was all this assistance in the back, you know all the interns and everybody sitting back there. Eating chips! Constantly looking at each other as though they're saying oh my god what if they catch us? Just to get a little taste of this, we're going to play the marijuana and the DEA part one. And listen to how stupid these people sound! These are the people making tons of money and they are our leaders There will be an amendment to legalize marijuana on the floor when this bill comes up. Guaranteed

1:17:19 Are you, could you say then that in a state that legalizes marijuana Washington State Colorado some of that marijuana will be supplied by Mexican drug cartels when that time comes? Well lot will depend on what the different states law says but let's take the states have already passed medical marijuana Okay, we see an influence of Mexican marijuana especially out west with the dispensaries. It's the good shit! That's what you want? A lot of people are saying well let's experiment with this We don't need to experiment with it. We know what happened with medical marijuana in these states Use grew. Use grew overnight

1:18:15 I was a special agent in charge in Los Angeles. Overnight, dispensaries ñ more dispensaries than Starbucks ñ and it has gotten to the point so out of hand that cities and municipalities in Southern California are banning dispensaries in coming to their areas because they saw what happened. They saw the influence of more crime in that area, you know face it do a little surveillance like we do on some of these dispensaries. She's doing stakeouts apparently John she's eating donuts and you'll see that the primary

1:19:01 uh... patients of the dispensary are males from age 18 to 26. Our prime target for Adderall and other groovy stuff. And there's a lot of apparent sick people out there so we are concerned Stop. Oh stop I want to get these other clips which is almost done Okay, so she said two things one. I didn't know that Starbucks was a metric yes No Starbucks is a great metric It's it's the new McDonald's you know so Starbucks is a metric and there's more of these dispensaries than in the Los Angeles We have 112 starbucks we have never droned a country that has a Starbucks That's the new metric you see

CHAPTER 24 / 46 Discussion

420 Culture, Marijuana Benefits and Public Perception

Reflecting on the "420" holiday, Adam Curry discusses his past heavy use of marijuana and its medicinal value. He criticizes the public "weed culture" for making users look foolish and argues for a more respectful understanding of the plant's history and utility. He cites a report from San Francisco suggesting that dispensaries can actually reduce local crime.

420· marijuana· medicinal plants· rasta· jamaica· vapor room

1:19:48 I like it. And then this crime thing here, so today's Huffington Post San Francisco nine years ago a small medical marijuana dispensary opened in San Francisco's lower hate the vapor room quickly found its place within the neighborhood and its presence had an interesting if not counterintuitive effect It appears to have reduced crime Yeah of course it does! I do want to say one thing about...if I can just interject So yesterday was 420 and the news reports, you know show everyone lighting up at 420 in the afternoon. You know so I and I was a major major user of the holy herb marriage Juana

1:20:33 for 10 years from wake and bake to sleepy time and just all if I could get it because if I almost was setting my alarm at 3 in the mornings, I need a token three in the morning just go back. No but that's what they like that part of the story. It's here by true put it in the wiki put it on my wiki page What? I saw the news like in Seattle and Boulder You look like assholes when you do that. Can I just say that? Yeah, so I'm all for marijuana I think it's great You know But it's like you know It's like you're sitting on the street like guzzling Jack Daniels you look like a dick When you do that and you do nothing for promotion of what I think is a very medicinal plant and very very useful And tasty to smoke although I don't do it anymore

1:21:25 Um, did this fortune... I don't think you'll ever get tasty from that but go on. You haven't ever- when's the last time you smoked it? I don't smoke it! No but you have right? You've smoked in your lifetime. When I was a kid Right so how can you even remember what it tastes like There is some weed that is really tasty The new one Okay fine Go on Hey the new weed is tasty Definitely Tasty New Weed Thank you for the opening. That is 121, got it! But when people sit around on outside on the steps and like, oh yeah it's legal we're gonna light up they can't the cops can't do anything You make everyone who smokes weed look like a dick stop it

1:22:07 Celebrate 420, fine. You know? But just... What's there to celebrate? It's just a date! It's a weed culture thing that's okay I'm okay with that but you know what take a trip to Jamaica and then go sit with some Rastafari and really learn about the culture of weed really learn about it what this thing can do for us magical plant that burns hotter than coal Anywho so just stop that it's not funny you don't need anymore So play the clip This thing got worse and worse Play clip 3 and you hear some of the crazy memes that come in. I'd be surprised if you can't not laugh at this particular clip

CHAPTER 25 / 46 Discussion

Marijuana Health Claims, IQ Studies and National IQ Tests

The hosts debunk claims made during the DEA hearing regarding marijuana causing an 8% drop in IQ and increased fatal car accidents. Adam Curry shares his experience participating in a "National IQ Test" television show in the Netherlands, where he scored 131. They question the validity of IQ as a standardized measurement of intelligence.

marijuana· iq test· schizophrenia· addiction· netherlands· starbucks scale

1:22:51 I'm worried about some figures from Colorado just since medical marijuana became legal there. We can't sell any more cancer medication because people are curing themselves! This is an outrage! Actually, it's not... Marijuana was legalized, not medical marijuana. But that's okay she doesn't know what she's talking about she's an idiot. Car accidents and fatal car accidents. I've got some figures i could give you on that There will be an increase in car accidents and fatal car accidents. Increase in car accidents is... By the way, stop! This guy cannot finish a word constantly says fatal car accidents... Hey man! What's up?

1:23:39 The word is concatenated, it just cuts them off. Increase in car accidents has got to be a major concern In fact, a driver who has used marijuana is twice as likely to have a crash than someone that didn't Oh this is a statistic It depends if he's in reverse, which is what most people on we do like I can back it up all the way home watch there are a lot of statistics out there because People have looked at the science and the science Because it's high potential for abuse

1:24:26 More teens enter drug treatment for marijuana addiction than other illegal drugs and alcohol. Alright, so um... Ah! You stepped on the end date! What? It was over! Play the very end again Hold on a second. I'm sorry it was not always clear you know you like you I can't put little codes in these little things yes because 50% of your clips You say stop before it's over so, I don't know hold on here we go get it In the record be glad to give you that one let me back it up a little more That has shown us study like that yeah, we glad in the record be glad to give you that one What I don't get back far enough Okay

1:25:11 By the time that they're, I think in their 20s. They've been testing to show about an 8% drop in IQ. 8% drop? I don't know any other drug that has shown a study like this. Yes, be glad to give you that one. Okay true fact! Eight percent drop in IQ Fact of course well, it's actually what they've determined if you do enough reading. It's not 8% anything gets eight points Oh a point to you if you start when you're 13 and smoke it like a maniac

1:25:51 until you're about 21. And can you measure IQ on the Starbucks scale? Well, the way it seems to work for me is that your so stoned when your taking an IQ test when your 21 that yeah, you're probably going to be off a few points I've never really bought into the whole number thing on IQ What do think my IQ is? I'll tell ya because I had it measured what's my IQ? Mine's 31 So I went on the national IQ test in the Netherlands several years ago. Wow, ten years ago probably no five six of seven years ago and so the national IQ test is where you get a whole bunch of celebrities and they go on television and they take the test And then yeah, and then the test is scored and make it event Yeah It's a reality television show

CHAPTER 26 / 46 Discussion

Congressional Hearing on Marijuana, Dangerous Drug Classification

Congressman Joe Bonner of Alabama questions the DEA on the legal status of marijuana, emphasizing its classification as a "dangerous illegal drug." The hosts mock the repetitive nature of the hearing. They also note media reports that Boston suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was a frequent marijuana user, which they suggest is being used as a character indictment.

joe bonner· alabama· attorney general· dangerous drug· federal law· dzhokhar tsarnaev

1:26:40 It's called the national IQ test because it actually ran in the states for a season or two which was pretty big and you know, cuz then you can play along at home and to use 131. Thank you I appreciate that You know what my actual score was 100 crap right so nobody has a hundred So what is bullcrap are the numbers bullcrap? Or is the test? I think that the whole idea of a test is bullcrap How can you measure IQ as bullshit? You can't measure that. I'm not buying into the whole thing Well if i had 100, I'd say the same thing What? So uh... What? Hey-o! Alright well you just don't want to see you just don't want to get into an intelligent conversation with me about bull crap and what is your IQ? You've had it measured Uh.. It came out a couple of different numbers Yeah Like at 138 once and 142 a second time Right And who measured that Mensa No I didn't... Mensa

1:27:37 And yeah, I know. It's also very cultural so even though it is not supposed to be Let's play... okay we got some more clips left. I can't remember which one had the gateway drug clip This is a good clip The one that would like to have is this guy Bunner comes in and let see was there short clip here try the merit try them try the part five clips you're that goes okie dokie see where it goes I think doctor harris is right i think the attorney general and attorney general's coming up next week a lot of things not making his stop constantly okay at this clip the guy they touch another congressman chimes in this isn't Joe J O bonner and that's a man by the way mmm-hmm he's from Alabama mobile

1:28:25 and he, you have to imagine him when he speaks. He's as though they're talking about marijuana and all the rest of it until... And he has this snide look on his face like he just figured something out that is really important Like remember George Bush used to put this look on his face once in a while like he knows something. He puts this look on his face to tell everyone but has anyone noticed that drug is illegal? I mean its the dumbest thing you've ever heard You know, you might ask him or if you don't ask him I'll ask him. I think the Attorney General is really going to have to speak out on this he cannot pull a punch's pilot and wash his hands. A punch's pilot? Mr Chairman Yes Mr Bonner Outstanding question but...and i'm not trying to put words in the Administrators mouth she said this was a dangerous drug but it's also an illegal drug Correct So its a dangerous illegal drug

1:29:25 I think this has been an insightful hearing. And I will say the Attorney General is aware of that, we have been able to give input on the concerns And he is looking at it, he's studying it. He's looking at those legal you know the DEA isn't going to look at the legal implications there but but he is and he has said that they're doing a very good look at it both states what they passed are very different They're taking their time to look at it and then figure out a way forward It really may require the President of United States

1:30:07 Speak out. Yeah, or give up his weed so they're gonna look at it Look at they gotta look at it. They're gonna look at it. They don't look at relevant these relevant clip of a relevant clip I mean, every single time I saw him he'd make sure to say hi. He was very calm relaxed all the time For people who knew him there were no warning signs Andrew describes an average college sophomore who played intramural soccer enjoyed FIFA soccer video games and smoked a lot of marijuana That's our Chechnya marathon bomber. Smoked a lot of marijuana, that's right because when you're really stoned you like the first thing it was like hey man I got a great idea dig this up Really good and they were and there's one of these clips I'm not gonna play these clips cuz they're tedious because this woman is so dumb

CHAPTER 27 / 46 Discussion

Marijuana and Mental Health, Gateway Drug Theory

The DEA hearing continues with claims linking marijuana use to schizophrenia and psychosis in young people. The director argues that social media and songs send a message that the drug is harmless. The hosts mock the revival of the "gateway drug" theory and the "this is your brain on drugs" egg commercial imagery.

fda· schizophrenia· psychosis· gateway drug· social media· propaganda

1:31:08 But one of these clips they talk about what I wish I could figure out which one are the ones it's either two It might be two or it might be four try to put four and I can tell them when you kill okay some of our marijuana in cases like that but then where is legalized will be the Mexican cartels who were involved in pretty heinous crimes by people's lives have taken it will will ultimately be in being involved the other question that I want to ask you then if you could just So here so maybe it was like this. Hey, hey. Hey, I got a great idea Let's do this Let's do this thing hammered man Like how funny would this be? It's like we're all like really baked when we do this whole thing about marijuana A way you

1:31:57 administrator. Because where are we going to get this stuff? Oh, any of our interns have got some. Who's got the red vines? Dvorak! Educate and I see good friends from C-SPAN is here if you would give them a talk what you would say to a mom or dad or maybe a governor or state legislator or member of Congress What is the problem with marijuana? If they would say to you, administrator there's really not a problem. They've just legalized it in color There has been no recognized medical use and treatment in the U.S., and that...that's been determined by the FDA on these uh...on research that's been done And there's a lack of accepted safety protocols for use of the drug even under medical supervision

1:32:54 The reason why we're worried about this with young people is there's also a connection between schizophrenia, psychosis and it's the young marijuana user. Science! They have studies now... We didn't have these studies 10 years ago but they have studies they looked at the science and this is a dangerous drug And the message that the kids are going to get in social media, the message that kids are going to get on television, on their radio, in their songs with their peers is that it's a harmless drug.

1:33:33 So his parents the parents need to say Here are the facts or here's where you can go to get the fact if a parent is it a gateway? Oh man, bring back. This is your brain on drugs The egg commercial bring that bring that one back That was great remember that yeah. Yeah the egg. Yeah, this is your brain. This is your brain on drugs And I was going like cool cool it's a gateway drug. This woman is just an idiot and this these Republican congressmen who are all for by the way the federalized aspect of all this when they should be supporting the 10th amendment in states rights regarding this sort of law because why do you had why did you have the Volstead Act

CHAPTER 28 / 46 Discussion

Tenth Amendment, State Rights and Federal Preemption

The discussion focuses on the constitutional conflict between federal drug laws and state legalization. Adam Curry criticizes the media meme that "federal law trumps state law," arguing that the Tenth Amendment reserves such powers to the states. He references a disagreement with Roger Chang on the "This Week in Tech" (TWiT) network regarding this legal interpretation.

tenth amendment· constitution· prohibition· federal law· roger chang· twit

1:34:20 prohibition, prohibiting the drinking of alcohol had to be a constitutional amendment. Hey hey stop doing twit material on no agenda! This doesn't have to be? Yeah very funny yeah I take that material everywhere as far as i'm concerned explain to me Why don't you explain it? Can you explain to me why they had to have a constitutional amendment to make the consumption of alcohol illegal in this country. Oh, that's... But you don't need a constitutional amendment with these uh... with marijuana and some of these recreational drugs. Yes! Okay well let me explain First of all, because the states determine what people can do in their own state not the federal government. The Constitution Bill of Rights determines specifically and Tenth Amendment specifically what the federal government can do

1:35:09 But when it comes to marijuana and federal regulation, which of course are highly disputed in California. Although California is you know they're all on board with the program so they don't have the National Guard shooting at the feds as they invade their sovereign state. They should. Yeah, they should shoot back but they don't do that and that is because of course people are blithering uneducated idiots by design our schools are setting them up to not learn anything to learn lies and propaganda and to turn the entire state of the United States into a climate change fearing bunch of blithering yahoos! Oh I guess that explains it. I mean i'm not saying... okay

1:35:56 But what, so okay. Let me just say this for you I should have clipped...I should have clipped this week in tech because who was the guy who was on with you? The guy with the gout? The gout guy Roger Chang. The only thing that triggered my response was his parroting the phrase federal law Trump state. Exactly, exactly thank you! I knew when you heard that that i wasn't going to sit down and hear it and listen to that well what's worse is... That is a bullcrap meme that the media has propagated What is worse is that there were so here's why I'm frustrated because I'm seeing you

1:36:36 Surrounded by morons and it hurts me as your friend and colleague. I'm like, oh my god He's sitting there with morons And you know I didn't even log into the chat room because I knew that the chat room would be like Ganging up on you because they're no the chat room was actually on my side Okay. Well that's well that to be a bunch Libertarian it was chatroom too. You were in the overflow of chatroom. You weren't in one believe me Oh I know but i watch one, you know the layout in that place. I'm into and then on this big screen one is going on that's why kind of prefer to be two because I can see the chat. The whole thing it just really made me sad because I realized that so many people really believe this and Chang is Chang not a journalist? Doesn't he write for a living what does he do

1:37:30 He's one of those guys at Rev 3 doing shows. Okay, so he is not a journalist okay yeah it's just like it's so sad John and it's just really really sad when I hear that and that is indoctrination and repetition and bullcrap that people get bestowed upon them by the media that they think this way And its rampant! You can't stop anymore No no we've already decided you can't stop but at least you can fight your little battle Right how that work out for you? I couldn't even get anyone to go look at the 10th amendment He's a crackpot he's an old geezer hanging out with curry. No yeah, oh Yeah And but that ages thing has got to stop too I mean it's funny when you do it because it's funny But I don't know I'm not gonna stand for people doing that to you anymore

CHAPTER 29 / 46 Discussion

Sheryl Sandberg, Female Role Models and Hillary Clinton

The hosts discuss Sheryl Sandberg's book "Lean In" and a study from the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology regarding female role models. The study claims that seeing images of leaders like Hillary Clinton or Angela Merkel improves women's public speaking performance. The hosts dismiss the study as "pathetic" and critique the worship of political figures.

sheryl sandberg· facebook· lean in· hillary clinton· angela merkel· madeline albright

1:38:23 Eric feels the same way. I don't think it's funny anymore. He is incredibly incensed and i think with some justification that these you know these liberal, they're always a liberal contingent These liberals who have promoted this kind of you know don't stereotype Don't do this, don't do that You know be politically correct They are the most ageist people you'll ever run into And so I didn't clip it but Sheryl Sandberg was on the BBC. Oh, here's the joke so i'm talking about Sheryl Sandberg she's got this new book. Listen, Sheryl Sandberg is the most powerful woman in Silicon Valley this week because she is the chief operating officer of Facebook right that's where she's from and she wrote a book called Lean In and the punchline is to show your tits

1:39:11 Okay, buzzkill jr. That kids got a great career ahead of him in the cat skills it's gonna be great Yeah, but you know and I listen to this and i'm listening and miss Mickey is listening cuz you know the my command center which is basically in the kitchen almost in this house and And she's like even she's outraged by this bullcrap She's like Men and women are different. You just can't... Force it that we have to be exactly the same and you know just it's all about having babies And you know that's unfair You know, it's like one of these days. We're gonna tell her that women have to have the baby I'm telling you one of these days we're gonna wake up and I'm gonna have to give birth through my butt I'm talking about It's gonna be law The way we're headed in law but there's this whole thing going on I have this I calling at the war on men really is what? Okay so here is

1:40:13 Study fact, let me just bring up the article here because this one really really made me laugh from pop sci.com Which is what is that popular science right popular science magazine? I guess a new paper in the May issue of Journal of experimental social psychology which we need to subscribe to suggests that even seeing images of female role models can help women speak publicly and perform as leaders And so they tested this and what picture scored the best with women to help them speak publicly and perform as leaders? What picture? Hillary Clinton. Fuck yeah! Exactly, yes. It's obvious Just seeing Hillary Clinton's face improves women's public speaking

1:41:05 So I think the next time... Don't you think that this is something pathetic about this? Totally pathetic! And it's like Hillary Clinton, not a great person by any means is so worshipped by a huge contingent. In fact you can hear it when sometimes you get to go These women, they just gush over Hillary and how much she's done and how important she is. And what a great human being she is! All the work she has done... This is the woman who can't even sweat! Can't sweat. She's incapable of perspiration I tell you we've discussed this on the show and people have identified it But guess what guess who was second who was second Madeline Albright? No no, no sorry a little more Courant Let me think Ann Curry no so Angela Merkel

CHAPTER 30 / 46 Discussion

Producer Credits, Karma Requests and Ham Radio

The hosts read donation notes from producers, including a request for "karma" for a family in Florida. They discuss Miss Mickey's appearance on a television show and debate the quality of the series "Rubicon." A brief tangent follows regarding the naming conventions used by amateur radio (ham) operators.

producer· karma· ham radio· miss mickey· rubicon· florida

1:42:03 Oh my god, I would have never guessed that. Yeah! Third on the list? You don't even know she's a woman, i'm not sure Who was third on the list? Who? Bill Clinton. We have a few people to thank. Jeremy Johnson in Port Angeles, Washington $125 and 69 cents the ITM he says in the morning good to see Miss Mickey on TV I saw that by the way what'd you think

1:42:39 I thought she's really a solid actress. And don't you think that she would be great for a third... Her line was a bit much, but you know her lines, she had a couple of lines. Well yeah i mean But I thought she carried herself well She was backlit so you really couldn't even see her that well but it was a good performance It was very believable and she could get work. She should consider acting Yeah, no really seriously it was really good. I what i think is um they should put her in season three by the way that show sucks now you know what that's what i thought too but we really got into it because you gotta it's like oh yeah you're in it well you gotta it's like smoking dope

1:43:17 It's a gateway to Rubicon. Okay, we want to thank Nelda Smith in Tavares Florida $100 she came in as a check and she didn't send a note and a card which I feel obliged to read Dear John and Adam my son had been telling me about your show And I really have enjoyed listening since January please send karma for my family and LG why thanks Nelda Western 6 Xavier Jack 9 There you go. Of course he's a ham! The hams are all over this show, man. Hold on a second here some karma for ya. You've got karma. And a little glory to eat. YAYYYY! That is the hippest hashtag to use W6XJN? Uh 73 uh Charles Bear, Idaho $100 Aaron Bear Elkins Park Pennsylvania um $100

CHAPTER 31 / 46 Discussion

Final 69-69 Donations, Birthday Shoutouts and Global Support

The hosts acknowledge the final "69.69" donations as they phase out the specific bell-ringing tradition for that amount. They read birthday greetings for listeners in Germany, Idaho, and Pennsylvania. Support is also recognized from producers in Victoria, Australia, and Dublin, Ireland.

69-69· birthday· germany· australia· ireland· arlington

1:44:12 Leonard, Leonard. Leonard. Leonard! Leonard! Mooresville Indiana 73-73 He's also a ham Kevin 9, Kevin Jones Netanyahu. Yeah real good there John and why don't you know what can I just say one thing about this? I am very disappointed that American hams go through this they don't just use like the traditional alphabet so it'd be kilo nine kilo Juliet November they all have to come up with these stupid like yeah

1:44:49 Yeah, oh yeah. I can see where you're going with that. It's annoying! Get it on board with the program old hams. Yes... right? Steven Seva- 69! 69! Oh sorry. My overshot. By the way back to Hutchinson he does mention he lives a mac and cheese life Thank you, thank you for... Steven Sevchuk in West Orange New Jersey 7069. My old stomping grounds and he said karma worked for him and now you can ring the bell 69! 69 dudes! And I will mention there is only one

1:45:35 And it came in almost at the last minute. Whoa! Because once this is over, that's it right? We're not accepting them anymore. We're not going to ring the bell anymore we'll accept them but we're not gonna make a big deal there's no more 69-69 The streak will be over So this is really pushing it so you know maybe Shuren should come back with a donation or friend and uh... So do I ring the bell to close out or what Yeah, as soon as I say Mark Schwabin. Oh, I'm sorry he lives in Mark Schwaben which is in Deutschland I guess. Steven Shun. This is a happy birthday donation for the one with the cute butt Carrie. Who's that? It was special John and Adam karma for her In case John gets around who would love to get as much talked about recipe for pulled pork The Smoker's Ready lots of greetings from Mark Schwaben in Deutschland

1:46:28 That's the one who has, she put the No Agenda on her butt for those. She is a runner isn't she? Yeah! She is a runner. It says noagendashow.com on her butt and she got a pretty butt so she gets a lot of attention and it's wearing tight European kind outfit yeah So anyway... She started it maybe that would be ironic but it'd be cool if Stefan ended it 69! 69, dude! It's been about a year and half. Who started it again? Kerry. Kerry started it? Yes. Oh man I just got a visual. Dean Fredrickson.

1:47:09 6616 Sam Manor, Box Hill Scout Victoria. Double nickels on the dime Eric Veet in Dublin 50 bucks and finally this is how short this is we're short people yeah Adam Willis in Arlington Virginia $50 he canceled his four dollar a week subscription because I was annoyed by all the inbox receipts and lines of donations of my bank statement if you make a sixteen dollar month donation link available who said something like that up and he would like to have a little call out which will give him, which unfortunately I just clicked on the wrong button. What do you want? Science? Science is in karma. The science is in! You've got karma. So that closes out our donation segment. Yes bad

CHAPTER 32 / 46 Discussion

Travel Plans, Calgary Assignment and European Vacation

Adam Curry outlines his upcoming travel schedule, including a work assignment in Calgary and a summer vacation to Europe. He plans to visit Amsterdam, the South of France, and Florence. The hosts discuss the logistics of maintaining the show schedule while traveling and the use of Airbnb for accommodations.

calgary· airbnb· amsterdam· france· florence· vacation

1:48:05 and hopefully we'll pick things up by Thursday. Well, yeah because I'm... The news cycle improves too which wouldn't be a bad thing Okay we need a better news cycle We need better art And more contributions More support! I feel a little shorted Because I work really hard Oh well, whatever. Whatever now whatever. Adam and John will be traveling to Calgary Alberta Canada where all the money is at the end of the month for a work assignment handling insurance claims for my company I'll be there for at least a month... By the way i got this note and was thinking about it And I sent him to Airbnb and haven't heard back so I think he's found his solution Well okay so he was uh... Because I didn't want turn this show into dating site you know

1:48:55 He needed a room for $2,000 a month or something. What does that have to do with dating? Well it's like you know once we start getting people housing on the show the next thing you know we're gonna be at dating site but once he went there B&B I haven't heard back well The only reason why I figured out pick it out of the pile is because you know he's uh... he's a monthly producer Yeah, no I that's why was corresponding with him and i think he found us Airbnb in Calgary and that whole area got all kinds of good deals. He was going through hotwire dot com or something. No no no no. It wasn't cheap So we're this summer and you and I have discussed this briefly in one email conversation so Miss Mickey and I are gonna go to Europe

1:49:43 And I had requested with you specifically, I said I'd like to take one week. One whole week off! Which you immediately came back with... College Fund... Whatever, I can't remember what it was It would literally was like that's the answer bull crap. There was something along those lines I'll figure it out of there No, no what it was was you're the one that makes such a big deal about always doing in this show Yeah Because at college fun here if you want to take off because I have to clear my head and above all We've been invited to stay with my friend Michelle At his house in the south of France And I know that basically means we just drunk for a week so I'm like I

CHAPTER 33 / 46 Discussion

Portable Podcast Box, Hardware Testing and Drop Test

Adam Curry describes a new portable "box" he built to allow him to produce the No Agenda show from any location. The unit integrates clips, Skype, and audio processing into a small mobile setup. He mentions that the device successfully passed an accidental "drop test" and will be used during his upcoming trip to Amsterdam.

hardware· podcasting· skype· print boards· drop test· amsterdam

1:50:26 I can't be like you can do it half. No well, so i'm taking the the new box which by the way? I did this for the test of the Of my the podcaster and and i'm gonna think we're gonna try it on the show on thursday It's it's conscious once again explain what you would you made a box? Yes, so I've made a box. It's supposed to be very small portable And if and the idea is if you have this box You can do the no agenda show So you can do clips you can do Skype you can do know the whole thing and it will sound good too That's the whole idea and so actually test one was first So phase one is getting the whole thing together putting it you're getting all the elements

1:51:08 Phase two is creating it into a mobile situation that is small, but I can...small enough that I can actually test it. Because phase four or five would be to have someone build this in one single unit now It's a whole bunch of print boards and things that I've... Pieces? Pieces that are put together But actually we went through... Okay No We went through stage three I dropped it by accident by both from like chest height That would be stage three. There'd be the testing yes, yeah drop test and it works 3.5 Yeah And it still works so that was really cool It's very light and so I'm very excited about it But right now you know it's like a box with whole bunch of wires So doesn't really look all that fantastic but it has it has everything You need all you need to do is add a computer any computer will do you know? Any and doesn't have to be something specific and you can do this show that is the promise you could also Do a daily source code with it, but that is the promise

1:52:04 of the podcast. So anyways, I want to take that to Europe and so what we're going do is fly into Amsterdam... When are you going? What day are we talking about? The idea is July 19th I think let me see hold on a second let me check this out I'll tell you exactly what were gonna do so you can drone in here put it in the book yes okay put it in the book so July where are we June here we go June-July After the show on the 18th, we would leave on Friday the 19th. So there would be no show on the 21st and so we fly to Amsterdam in the 19th then we fly down to... We're just staying overnight in Amsterdam one night and a half then we're gonna fly down to South of France on the 21st or 22nd Then were drunk that whole week And through the 27th right

CHAPTER 34 / 46 Discussion

Show Schedule, Knighting Ceremony and Sir Warren Carroll

The hosts finalize the show schedule for late July and early August, noting a one-week break. Warren Carroll is knighted for his cumulative support of over $1,000. The ceremony includes the traditional "hookers and blow" and "mutton and mead" proclamations, welcoming him to the No Agenda Roundtable.

knighting· warren carroll· value for value· amsterdam· schedule

1:53:05 then we've on the On the 27th or 28. I can't freaking remember Then we drive to my sister in Florence and then we fly back on Wednesday The 31st, then on Thursday the 1st of August I do a show again from oh, yeah, I'm sorry So so actually we do it when I arrive in Amsterdam Sunday the 21st We do a show Then take the Thursday and Sunday off after that, and then we're back on the first. This is what my life is people! This is what it is I'm-I'm... Makes me mad when we get like slow donations this is what am I doing with my life? Give us a run down because I need to know these dates Okay So we have a show from Amsterdam on the Sunday 21st then no show on 25th No show on 28th We resume the show August 1st from Amsterdam again

1:54:06 And then on the 8th, I'm back in Texas for a show. On the 1st you're going to do a show in Amsterdam? Yes, first of August Oh boy, wow. Taking a whole week off! That's my vacation. That's less than the average citizen slave gets. You're gonna be gone from the 18th to the first test two weeks? I'm working on the 21st working on my so-called vacation Well... Wait is it...? I don't just show up for this show John there is actual work that goes into what I think you might do this morning Yeah yeah yeah but I'm just saying It's not as though that No it gets me angry I don't want talk about anymore screw it I'll do after the show Makes me mad I'm looking at this and like

1:54:42 What am I doing this for? Take an extra week off then, for God's sake. What about doing some reruns or something? Might as well Maybe somebody can make us another one of these clip shows Let's get some... you know what let's just have some other host come in That's a good idea You want to kill the show is that what you're saying Yeah i'm considering it right after I kill myself Um hold on a second um You should never say that now that's going to be used as evidence that you killed yourself Well I'm gonna erase it from the show Mr. Adam Curry? Open up the door, Mrs. Curry!

1:55:25 Alright, Nick the Rat has just suggested that you do the show with Leo. I think we have a winner! That's a great idea, Nick. Steven Schoen of course says happy birthday to Carrie Cutebutt-Schoen and we appreciate you coming in with what may be the final SwazzleNoff donation of $69.69 Arvind A. Mehta says congratulations to his son Avi Mehta, turned one, turns one today on the 25th of April Sir Ray Jacobson congratulates his brother Ron who turns 49 tomorrow and uh... his nephew Peter turns 18 tomorrow as well happy birthday from your friends here at The Best Podcast in the Universe!

1:56:11 And then we have one knighting from our associate executive producer today, that is Warren Carroll who came in with a $200 donation making him associate executive producer of this episode 506 of the No Agenda Show. And of course that takes him up to his knighting so Warren Carroll step forward please and lean as we are very happy to welcome you to that elite group of supporters who have supported the NOAH Agenda podcast in the amount of $1,000 or more. So I hereby pronounce the Sir Warren Knight at the NOAH Agenda Roundtable for you sir! Of course your hookers and blow your red boys and chardonnay your hot pants and booze your wenches and beer Rubin S women and rosé maybe geishas and sake vodka vanilla bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider and escorts Or if we're just hungry mutton and mead Thank You for supporting us

CHAPTER 35 / 46 Discussion

Tylenol Cognitive Effects, Liver Failure and Bullying

A discussion on recent medical research suggests that Tylenol (acetaminophen) may dull the pain of social rejection and existential anxiety. The hosts cite an article from The Atlantic and research from the University of Kentucky. They warn about the dangers of liver failure from overdose and question the PR push to reclassify the drug as a calming agent for school children.

tylenol· acetaminophen· liver failure· social rejection· bullying· the atlantic

1:57:00 Thank you everybody else who supported us, also our monthly donations. And please if you have not donated recently or if you have never donated here's what I don't want you to do You hereby no longer have permission to email me How many do you get of these John? Hi! Love the show! Donor... Boner can't donate had no money but I'm not gonna answer these anymore Sick and tired of it You answer them Yeah, I try. You know? I'm like... I'm hopeful. If somebody has something good to say, I'll pay attention. It's complicated. Let's take a little bit of medical news here that was very interesting. I think maybe they're trying to reclassify Tylenol or something

1:57:49 Have you been following this? No, I don't know anything about the Tylenol thing. Yeah so there's articles everywhere about Tylenol basically being good for your mind it makes you less anxious so you know like... Tylenol is not good for your liver! No in fact it's very bad for your liver and many people die from ODing on Tylenol but if I guess they're trying to reclassify as some kind of calming drug Yes, yes. There's a big PR push on it It's the same story everywhere that you know research has shown that people who take Tylenol regularly You know it's not addictive like narcotics But it does make you know it it could soothes your mind So they have not heard any of them either look at up Look at up Tylenol specifically not even the drug which is what is it? Acetamphenamine acetylphenamine yes

1:58:47 Here it is. The more study the more it seems we may be overlooking subtle cognitive effects research shows, it dulls the pain of social rejection. Yes this is very good! What's Tylenol doing to our minds? Asks James Hamblin of The Atlantic Apparently this started in 2009. Yeah, but so and why is it pushed? They've been pushing this apparently so poorly that I didn't even know about it till now No, it's it started popping up started popping up Sir Dr Sharkey who was our several hundred people in the US will die in 2013 from liver failure after a set of acetaminophen Acetaminophen overdose acetaminophen right? I'm sorry go on

1:59:45 Well, I mean as i'm looking at the Atlantic article now as well but I've seen it in several places and people have been sending me this that you know. It's okay here it is among people who took the placebo those who wrote about existence existential anxiety set much higher bail than those who wrote about the dentist but if they took Tylenol wrote existentially the sense of moral judgment seemed to be blunted. I'm telling you Tylenol makes you feel good You watch, you watch. The lead researcher is C... look this guy up. C Nathan DeWald D-E capital W A L L the University of Kentucky He says nobody's ever tested the idea that it alleviates the physical pain and social rejection as you get oh I feel bad because somebody told me to get lost Bullying bullying bullying ah

2:00:43 There you go. Watch it, watch it show up! Here Tommy... Tommy take some Tylenol with you to school just in case you get bullied Yeah, you can also take a punch better Let's do this. Hold on a second let me just uh... Consult the book of knowledge! Tylenol bully and see if anything shows up. Tylenol Each evening participants answered questions on the so-called hurt feeling scale which measures social pain caused by, say, teasing. Hurt feelings and social pain decreased over time in those taking acetaminophen while no change was observed in subjects taking the placebo. The participants happiness levels didn't change much over the course of the study for either group so they didn't get any happier

CHAPTER 36 / 46 Discussion

Afghan Opium Production, Taliban Funding and GE Cocaine

A news report highlights a controversial policy where American troops are allegedly helping Afghan farmers grow opium poppies. The hosts discuss how the Taliban finances operations through the drug trade and mention the involvement of specific airlines in shipping heroin to Russian states. They link this back to the earlier report of GE importing cocaine.

opium· poppies· afghanistan· taliban· burma· heroin

2:01:36 No, it's not happier. It's by volunteers Well I'm just saying...I'm just identifying it. I'm not a medical doctor. You know some other people are identifying stuff that I would have never suspected in a million years play the puppies clip What's going on with this? The Taliban finances much of its operations by selling opium, which is grown from poppies which are right now being harvested. So here's the question why are American troops now helping Afghan farmers grow that opium? Nick Sheeran reports from Afghanistan on a controversial new policy

2:02:20 In Western Kandahar poppy farmers score till harvest their crop and the Americans do nothing to stop them What genius is this that we've been even tracking this for five years? What genius new show was this on it was a BBC or something really Joe was but as soon as I saw it Find the memo at the bottom of the drawer. How's this news oh my goodness ah Yeah And also, imports from Burma are now up as well. Now that we've opened it all up. Well look! We know GE is importing cocaine legally I mean God please this is not like Big Secrets everybody

2:03:06 So apparently the Afghan airline, whatever Agawa or whatever it's called. We refuse to do business with them and they're the ones that are shipping all the... I guess we don't have full control over the entire poppy heroin opium distribution network because this airline and you can... It doesn't take much research to figure this out there they keep flying to some town up in one of those Russian states and with loads, they just loaded the gills with heroin and opium. And then they go straight into Russia. And I guess they haven't been playing ball with us. That's where the Taliban is getting their money from these guys but... We are in the wrong business. Oh yeah, apparently one airport just takes all of this shipments nobody gives a crap. Just bring it in!

CHAPTER 37 / 46 Discussion

Gun Control Hearings, Senator Patrick Leahy and Harry Reid

The hosts review audio from Senate hearings on gun control, featuring Senator Patrick Leahy discussing the NRA's past stance on background checks. They also play a clip of Harry Reid stumbling over the number of victims in the Aurora, Colorado shooting, repeatedly citing "33, 32, 33" people killed.

patrick leahy· harry reid· gun control· nra· background checks· aurora

2:03:59 I got a drunk, drunk or not drunk thing if you want to try it. We need a jingle for that! I know where we've been waiting... Is this Diane Sawyer? No! Okay it's just our friend Pat Leahy. Pat Leahy and Pat is where how was how do we acquainted with Pat? Senator he's up there talking about gun control in front of Congress okay tell me I don't know I could be wrong Drunk or not drunk here we go And if we agree the background check system is worthwhile Should we not try to inform its content? Wait, can it be hammered stone as well or only drunk or not drunk. And use so it could be more effective? What responsible gun owner objects to improving the background check system stand up and be counted! Now January hearing I pointed out that Wayne LaPierre, the NRA testified in 1999 in favor of mandatory criminal background checks

2:04:56 For as he put it, every sale at every gun show. He went on to emphasize NRA support for closing loophole in the background check system by saying... In what has become an off-coded remark No loopholes anywhere for anyone. What the fuck? Well of course! It's common sense to close a gun show loophole Right okay let me... Common sense just say um... Common sense Harry Reid, he was drunk by the way. Harry Reid who was not drunk gave us... He messed it up he was like he gave us the code then he thought oh wait that's the wrong code Oh wait no it's the right code Family and friends of those who were injured and killed in Aurora Colorado were there we had people here from

2:05:54 Tragedy. What, he forget how to read? No listen... 33 32 33 people killed. 33 32 33 people ki- Please Harry get it straight. It's the magic number. 33, 32, 33 people killed. All right we got it! Glad you got it right okay that's all good. Yeah I was giving the measurements of his flat girlfriend. Hey now... Anyway let me see if I have this here. I was going to hey uh-oh did I lose this somehow? This is really bad oh crap Oh here it is yes happy earth gay

CHAPTER 38 / 46 Discussion

Earth Gay Event, Seattle Environmentalism and Climate Propaganda

A report from Seattle describes "Earth Gay," an event where volunteers from the gay community clean up local trails for Earth Day. The hosts discuss the intersection of gay rights and environmentalism in political messaging. They play a clip of a representative claiming that "polluting industries" have run a propaganda campaign against climate science.

earth gay· seattle· climate change· gay rights· polluting industries· tacoma

2:06:45 Earth Gay? Yes. Happy Earth Gay! You know what tomorrow is, tomorrow is the 22nd... Earth gay?! Yes happy earth gay! Well earth day isn't just two days but here in Seattle we're already getting a head start hundreds of volunteers from Out for Sustainability a local gay advocacy group cleaned up trails along the shores of Lake Union today for what they are dubbing Earth Gay armed with shovels and rakes, they weeded mulched in cleared out invasive non-native plants from the area. Organizers say Seattle's gay community echoes the city's view when it comes to saving the planet It symbolizes that sort of collective global care of the planet that we all share And Earth Gay is a really interesting expression because we get to be visible both within our city but also within that movement

2:07:33 Earth Gay is in its fifth year, but organizers say it is gaining popularity. The event has already expanded to Tacoma and next year the group wants to bring it to Portland Austin can't be far off! Earth gay everybody perfect. Hey you know what? They're gonna clean up the place and that's all whatever you want so uh... mister this person said gay and climate change seem to be a good going together very well as reported here by representative white house uh... democrats in the u s congress has uh... to the extent of your question is what can we do to make a higher profile for this issue meetings like this and occasions like this actually answer that question quite awhile we've been timid

2:08:18 about standing up for what we know the scientific facts to be. I think we got knocked down by a very powerful propaganda campaign, by the polluting industries. Polluting industries! As you pointed out... The weather changes that we've seen, the sea level changes have pushed back It's not in line with the lies! and gay rights as an issue where the Republicans see that if they stick with this, they're gonna run off the cliff like lemmings. Yeah! Die! Whoa die all of you lemmings So tomorrow is Earth Day And their 350 dot org is launching a new movie

CHAPTER 39 / 46 Discussion

Do the Math Movie, Bill McKibben and Fossil Fuel Industry

The trailer for the movie "Do the Math" by Bill McKibben and 350.org is analyzed. The film argues that the fossil fuel industry is a "rogue force" leading to a "moral catastrophe" and the end of civilization. The hosts highlight the alarmist language used, such as the claim that carbon levels above 350 ppm are "not compatible with life on earth."

bill mckibben· 350.org· fossil fuels· global warming· carbon· do the math

2:09:15 and Is it? Yeah, so this is a bit... Do the math the movie. This is do the math the movie and I would add to it do-the-math slaves And listen to the trailer because it's very interesting The memes that are being thrown in your face In regards to how we are We are basically dead You're not even hearing me talking Because life cannot exist Yes! We're dead To profit from that wreckage

2:10:02 2012 was the hottest year in the United States since scientists started keeping records. My guest, Bill McKibben... Our nation's leading environmentalist We're building the kind of political movement that will change things As of tonight we are taking on fossil fuel industry directly These companies are a rogue force. We're no longer at the point of trying to stop global warming too late for that, we're trying to keep it from becoming a complete and utter calamity. Carbon in an atmosphere greater than 350 parts per million is not compatible with life on earth, that's strong language for scientists to use today the atmosphere is 395 parts per million.

2:10:52 The fossil fuel industry has five times more coal and oil than gas. It's safe to burn They are locking us into a future that we can't survive This is the biggest emergency the human family has faced since it came out of the caves We aren't just since we came out of the cave! Big point in America's history If they carry out their business plan, planet tanks Car sands are the turning point in our fossil fuel addiction. I say it's criminal, and if i say that... not likely! We subsidize the fossil fuel industries And that is just financially and morally bankrupt. We have to send a message that we are going to hold them liable. We have a moral catastrophe on our hands What's at stake now? Is civilization itself

2:11:46 This is the only question that will matter in the long run. We're all gonna die Die So very interesting actually cut that would put that voice at the end. We're all gonna die I love it how if they execute their business plan, it's all Here it is I got the PowerPoint right here go to slide 8 which is the kill-the-earth slide That's before our P&L benefit us

CHAPTER 40 / 46 Discussion

350.org Tax Filings, Elizabeth Taylor and Van Jones

An examination of 350.org's Form 990 tax filings reveals that the late actress Elizabeth Taylor was listed as a board member working three hours, despite having passed away in 2011. The hosts also note other board members like Van Jones and Naomi Klein. They critique the organization's use of "conspiracy theorist" language to target the fossil fuel industry.

350.org· form 990· elizabeth taylor· van jones· naomi klein· tax filing

2:12:23 Before they if they execute their business plan, they will kill everybody on earth So I started reading state of trailer Well get to that in a second. Um so I looked up their most recent this is pretty funny This is their most recent form 990 and this this company is under this organization so you know the board of directors Van Jones Who was the guy who was... yeah, oh yeah. Um... It's called The Usual Suspect But here is what interesting So um on the board of directors is an actual dead person Elizabeth Taylor who last year according to the report worked three hours That's great! Must be a different Elizabeth Taylor No no no, Elizabeth Taylor uh no What are you talking about? A different one? Some woman named Elizabeth Taylor No Naomi Klein These are all celebrities

2:13:21 Let me see if Elizabeth Taylor... So they dug her up from the grave and somehow she worked three hours? Elizabeth Taylor, 350. There's a joke in there somewhere I'm sorry couldn't just come up with it instantly let me just see if she's uh if she's uh if she's a member of this or not Elizabeth Taylor I mean I don't know well I don't know maybe it's a different Elizabeth Taylor then but well maybe just Yeah, it seems... Well they have her down for three hours according to their tax filing. She died in March 23rd 2011 this must be the 2011 thing Dude! It doesn't matter if it was 2012 or 2011 she was not working between January and March she was in hospital dead In THE hospital No, IN HOSPITAL is the way we say it Come on don't they have the board of directors here? Let's see our sources

2:14:18 Well, this is crazy. And what would she do for three hours? I don't know! Apparently something... So this outfit- Sex perhaps? So they made 3 million, then 3 million they brought in It's very interesting and we've talked about these guys before But anyway it was a good-I think I agree I think it's a very good trailer What I think is interesting about this trailer Is that they are actually kind of using conspiracy theorist type language Yeah, you know and editing. You know it's like if they complete their business plan And this is exactly yeah If the elites if the Rothschilds complete their business plan every man woman and child will be enslaved So I started reading state of fear by Michael Crichton oh my god a must-read book

CHAPTER 41 / 46 Discussion

State of Fear, Michael Crichton and Eugenics History

Adam Curry reads an excerpt from Michael Crichton's book "State of Fear," which draws parallels between the modern climate change movement and the eugenics movement of the early 20th century. The reading lists famous supporters of eugenics, including Theodore Roosevelt and Alexander Graham Bell, and describes how the "pseudoscience" led to the death of millions.

michael crichton· state of fear· eugenics· margaret sanger· woodrow wilson· pseudoscience

2:15:05 must read for anybody no wonder and they probably killed him how do you die that's what I was always how did he die with a pricker now what did he die of cancer answer I think oh my god and so this is hope he actually equates the the global warming climate change advertising call-you-what-you-want movement to And what's the connection? Killing people. Oh, well there could be that. Yeah! Well they definitely want... you know this is the same group that wants to cut the population we got too many people yes I mean it's all these people stem from the same basic movements there was that Club of Rome so we had too many people there was that did the zero bomb or whatever is called at Stanford guy wrote about where the population growth bomb whatever was called that was gonna we have too many people we gotta stop

2:16:06 and then there was also the same group that had the climate change where it was a global freezing. We're gonna have a new ice age, and you know we won't be able to sustain all these people! And now we can't sustain whatever because everyone's going to be dead... No, there is a large contingent of Well, there's two groups. There is the contingent that propagates these messages and memes... What I would like to do is read a reading. Can I do a little reading? Oh! I'd love to hear it by you. Can I do an excerpt from State of Fear? Yes. And you stop me when its boring okay? Go. You better be careful because sometimes I don't stop you.

2:16:50 Imagine there's a new scientific theory that warns of an impending crisis and points to a way out. This theory quickly draws support from leading scientists, politicians and celebrities around the world. Research is funded by distinguished philanthropies and carried out at prestigious universities The crisis is reported frequently in the media. The science is taught in college and high school classrooms I don't mean global warming, i'm talking about another theory which rose to prominence a century ago. Its supporters included Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson and Winston Churchill It was approved by the Supreme Court justices Oliver Wendell Holmes and Lewis

2:17:29 Brandeis, who ruled in its favor. The famous names who supported it include Alexander Graham Bell, inventor of the telephone, activist Margaret Sanger, botanist Luther Burbank, Leland Stanford founder of Stanford University, the novelist HG Wells, the playwright George Bernard Shaw and hundreds of others Nobel Prize winners gave support. Research was backed by Carnegie and Rockefeller Foundations, the Cold Springs Harbor Institute was built to carry out this research but important work was also done at Harvard Yale Princeton Stanford and John Hopkins Legislation to address the crisis was passed in states from New York to California. These efforts had the support of The National Academy of Sciences, The American Medical Association and The National Research Council It was said that if Jesus were alive he would have supported this effort! You gotta write that one down because Jesus... That'll come back for global warming

2:18:19 All in all, the research legislation and molding of public opinion surrounding the theory went on for almost half a century. Those who opposed the theory were shouted down and called reactionary blind to reality or just plain ignorant but in hindsight what is surprising is that so few people objected Today, we know that this famous theory that gained so much support was actually pseudoscience. The crisis' claim was non-existent and the actions taken in the name of the theory were morally and criminally wrong. Ultimately they led to death of millions of people. This theory is eugenics and its history is so dreadful and to those who are caught up on it's so embarrassing that now rarely discussed but a story should be well known to every citizen so that its horrors are not repeated."

CHAPTER 42 / 46 Discussion

Forced Sterilization, Nazi Implementation and Scientific Consensus

The discussion continues on the history of eugenics, focusing on forced sterilization in the United States and its eventual implementation by the Nazis. The hosts discuss how scientific consensus was used to silence opposition. They argue that the current climate change rhetoric follows a similar pattern of shouting down skeptics.

sterilization· nazis· hg wells· george bernard shaw· syphilis· propaganda

2:19:05 This is literally from the book. Yeah! This is good, good stuff and then you read through what eugenics is it was essentially not letting weak people crossbreed with strong people and this is how the whole Jew thing came about because the Jews were seen as weak and they had to be exterminated all the science Science Science was developed by the United States That's right and we promoted it with the same kind of propaganda, oh I'm on board. Oh you're an idiot the science is in everybody agrees that this is better and got to the point where were experimenting on the public We were giving idiots syphilis because they didn't give a crap It was dreadful and part of this whole thing taking place in the 20's

2:19:59 where they had the time motion studies and all the rest of it. There was a very, uh... very weird time in American history but yeah everyone was on board And then, well shh! Shh! Shh! Don't say anything. The Nazis actually implemented it. Yep HG Wells spoke against ill-trained swarms of inferior citizens. Theodore Roosevelt said that society has no business to permit degenerates to reproduce their kind Luther Burbank stopped permitting criminals and weaklings to reproduce George Bernard Shaw said the only eugenics could save mankind

2:20:37 Right, this was their era of forced sterilization. Yeah? And when you go to court you'd have found guilty of misdemeanor something or other and then they force you to be sterilized. Oh cut the guy's balls off that'll change things! That'll fix it so he doesn't have to worry about his kids But I just love the comparison that Crichton makes to the current... You're crazy, your shouted down It is exactly the same thing and what will this wind up doing? I think this will eventually wind up killing people This whole climate change thing. Stop breathing! I'm sorry, you've had too many breaths today You have to limit your breathing Anyway Yep Good book A reading by Adam Clark Curry It was good Thank you We could do more readings we probably should introduce that to the show Or maybe I should just do an audio book

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Medical Definition Shifts, Pre-Diabetes and Drug Prescription

A letter from a physician producer explains how medical experts frequently lower the thresholds for diagnosing conditions like diabetes, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol. The producer argues that these shifts, such as the invention of "pre-diabetes," are designed to maximize the number of patients eligible for prescription drugs.

diabetes· blood pressure· cholesterol· pre-diabetes· pharmaceutical· doctors

2:21:33 Oh, apparently. Well apparently it is just... Maybe you should! Yeah, apparently it pays nothing. I mean if you think you can do it, I mean it's apparently hours and hours and hours And then the guys stop you say man, can we read that sentence? Oh God Do I have to yeah, I would do it If only to have Leo have to promote me for audible.com That would be enough reason Actually, you'd have to do it all on this QT. I go on the show and then I say, you know a book I heard that he put in his play this and then he's see your name and freak. Oh, when did he do that? So Dr.. No sir sir dr. Sharkey recent night of the no agenda roundtable He we have a number of doctors physicians who produce the show listen to it and contribute

2:22:22 So he's been following along with the war on crazy that we've been talking about and I just want to read the email from me says Adam It's not just mental illness With physical illness the so-called experts keep changing their definitions when I started my training diabetes Meant blood sugar higher than 200 then it was 140 now. It's 126 then several years ago they invented pre diabetes and The number to meet that definition has gradually gone down to over 100. The same can be said for blood pressure and cholesterol." He says they max out the amount of drugs they can prescribe and then they change the number. Yeah, we got new customers! How are you going to get new customers Bill? Let's change the number! Yeah, we need some new customers! I love it It's genius Oh and i finally figured out Max Keiser's angle on Bitcoin

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Max Keiser, Bitcoin Patents and Ripple Payment Network

The hosts discuss Max Keiser's involvement with virtual currency patents and his licensing deal with Cantor Fitzgerald. They also cover the Winklevoss twins' investment in Bitcoin and the launch of "Ripple," an open payment network under the Open Coin Initiative that aims to eliminate transaction fees for various currencies.

max keiser· bitcoin· winklevoss twins· ripple· open coin· cantor fitzgerald

2:23:24 Okay, yeah ready for it. I'm right here is with his girlfriend. I Maybe this is fiance He apparently he's he stooping Stacy did you know that who's stooping who Stacey Stacey Herbert? It's on the show Yeah, that's his girlfriend well let me see my guess I can't remember what she looks like Max She's good for him. I think was her and Stacy images max Kaiser and Stacy You know, you know who she is. She's got the short hair... He's always like oh Max you're so funny! She's like Howard Sterns Robin in a way. Oh that woman? Yeah yeah So apparently they're lovers or whatever but that doesn't matter anyway so she kind of leads him into the disclosure

2:24:12 Now this is the... Or wife, someone's yelling in the chat room. Alright. Winklevoss twins have invested they own 1% of Bitcoin apparently and Cameron Winklevoss says people say it's a Ponzi scheme it's a bubble people really don't want to take it seriously at some point that narrative will shift to virtual currencies are here to stay or in their early days now Max you have a patent on virtual currencies and this is what we're going Hello. Yeah, he has a patent I think we forgot about the patent but yeah... I didn't know that. We kind of mentioned this maybe not... Well he has a patent but apparently he's licensed the patent to Cantor Fitzgerald

2:24:55 Okay, so anyway. What is this thing that? There's some there's some Silicon Valley thing that they're trying to launch Goonies or boonies or it tried this with beans and no what you but there's a new one We got a laugh about it. It's uh What is it Eric the shield pointed this out to me? Zoomies, Coinees. Come on what is it called? It's the Open Coin Initiative. The open coin I like that! Hold on i think that's what it is... Open Coin let me just check. I like that idea I think that's a good name Maybe it's not called that but I just made up a really good one. Thought it was called the Open Coin Initiative hmmm Open Coin yes Open Coin there we go I'm right. Ripple! Ripple! There you go it's a ripple

2:25:43 So ripple? Ripple. You mean like the cheap wine? Yes, ripple dot com go to ripple dot com The world's first open payment network It's free! It's open Only 0.0001 per transaction say goodbye to two with three percent fees your money should belong to you Send money in dollars euros yen or Bitcoin no added work, or fees for foreign transactions Transactions are confirmed within seconds no more wedding days for bank transfers well the hitting on my buttons Yeah, that's the idea yeah, oh it's great ripple ripple part of the open coin initiative

CHAPTER 45 / 46 Discussion

Dutch Royal Succession, King Willem-Alexander and King's Song

The Netherlands prepares for the abdication of Queen Beatrix and the coronation of King Willem-Alexander. The hosts discuss the controversy surrounding the "King's Song," which has been criticized for its "unimaginative" and "Disney-like" lyrics. They compare the nationalistic tone of the anthem to North Korean propaganda.

willem-alexander· princess maxima· netherlands· queen beatrix· king's song· abdication

2:26:28 Well, we'll see. 0-0-1 per day yeah right But bitcoins at what today? 125! We're rolling back up again. We're rocking it. Dump it. Yeah dump it I'm not dumping it all if one day either we're just gonna laugh about it or I'm gonna build a house. If you're worth 100 million dollars you'd build more than the house. Yeah I'll build you a house too put that in the red book Thanks okay putting it in the redbook I get a house. So the uh... Adam owes me a house! So on the 30th of April, The Dutch Queen will abdicate her throne to the Prince of Pills, The Pilsner Prince, Prince Beer Willem-Alexander with his smoke and heart Argentinian Princess Máxima who is just every boy loves dreaming of her that's the princess you want

2:27:26 Google her. Is she a hottie? Bah! Google Princess Maxima Are you kidding me, is she hottie?! She's from Argentina What's she doing from that if... what? That makes no sense Oh Holland and Argentina go way back Way back What's your last name again? Princess is the first name, what's your last name? Maxima Maximum Named after the magazine That's right Just google her Yeah I'm seeing her, she's pretty Come on, she's not pretty She smoking hot She's kind of like Marissa Meyer can be hot. I think your Mickey is prettier Oh, yeah! Hello? Of course Mickey is much prettier and much hotter But for most royalty you're ugly as sin Well look at her husband Look at the prince The guy unfortunately looks like his grandmother The guy is just beat looking

2:28:22 Anyway, so they will become king and queen on the 30th of April which of course is traditionally Queen's Day. And I think they're going to change it'll keep the 30th of April to be Kings day and everything but the celebrities of The Netherlands came together and just big big brouhaha over the official song of the abdication And the lyrics are, I mean so...I'm not gonna go translate all the lyrics but the lyrics are So insane They're like you know we stand by you King We stand beside you. We build a dike with our bare hands for you This sounds like something you'd hear in North Korea It is completely North Korea and now there's petitions everywhere Here's the BBC with a little report about The king song controversy

2:29:28 Hey, hold on a second. What the frig? That's the song! I don't want to play the whole song as one of the BBC report. I'm sorry. Prince Wilhelm Alexander and Princess Maxima They are one of the most popular royal couples in Europe, which is possibly why this anthem has caused such a public outcry.

2:30:09 It was released to celebrate the start of Wilhelm Alexander's reign, following his mother Queen Beatrix abdication after 33 years on the throne. But many of their loyal subjects object what they say are unimaginative lyrics I build a dike with my bare hands and keep the water away. Through the rain and the wind, I will stay close to you." Others say this style is too Disney! Of course it's Disney! It's like North Korea! And then there's this...

2:30:51 unusual mix of musical genres. I got a bunch of rappers in there. With just over a week to go until Vil... So it's, it- I think they've gone insane Yeah but you know your this is like your meme and we have lots of Dutch producers You all should just go on when these lyrics It literally is like I stand by you, beside you Can you ever be ready for this huge job? I mean all that's missing is the words our beloved leader It's really that's totally North Korean and Disney which is which is the same company as Disney trying to open a shop in North Korea It's the same company. Yeah We know how to do this right yeah, we sure do everybody absolutely do um alrighty

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Chocolate Bacon on a Stick, Show Outro and Sign-off

Adam Curry announces plans to make "chocolate bacon on a stick" based on a tip from a local market vendor. The hosts sign off, encouraging listeners to support the show and "deconstruct mainstream media bullcrap." They mention upcoming topics for the Thursday show and conclude with their signature sign-offs from Austin and Silicon Valley.

chocolate bacon· chicken fried steak· austin· silicon valley· deconstruction· podcast

2:31:45 Well, we'll see what the week brings us. We will be... Ooh! I'm gonna make an outstanding product which i shall try on Thursday's show a tip from our bacon guy at the Austin market Yeah? I am going to make chocolate bacon on a stick Ugh This is the Texas part of it. This is the dark side of you peeping down here What's wrong with chocolate bacon on a stick? That's it, there's the dark side You don't see that as being wrong There's nothing wrong with chocolate bacon on a stick God Just google it! There are plenty of examples

2:32:27 Yeah, deep fat fried Snickers bars. That'll be next on your list. No no bacon chocolate bacon on a stick that's what that's right baloney that's So we will have that outstanding product We will be testing that on the show and I'm sure we'll have all kinds of bullcrap to deconstruct for you because that is what we do here On The Best Podcast in The Universe please support us so we don't have to resort to begging. Have you tried chicken fried steak yet? You're in Texas, that's where the home of chicken fried steak No I have not Oh it's a must In the morning everybody i'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley i'm John C Dvorak And we'll talk to you again on Thursday right here On NO Agenda The best podcast in the universe! dvorak dot org slash n-a

2:33:22 Adios, mofo.