Middle Class Infanteers

00:00 Calgary, here I come. Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. It's Sunday January 6th 2013 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 476! This is no agenda. Becoming an alcoholic in the lowlands of Gitmo nation day 32 living in exile in Amsterdam In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry Hello? That was hilarious you had to have heard the way that worked And your name is? Oh, I'm sorry. From Northern Silicon Valley, I am John C. DeBore. Nailed it! Excellent, excellent. Good job

00:49 So you went offline. I did not go offline, you went offline! Yeah no no you went offline sure and then but your mind... You were screaming and yelling in the way you normally do which is where we start to show And then it was you hear Skype going I can't take it anymore! Skype actually said to you I can't take it anymore? That was a message No What was the message? I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE Well, I think this was great and as far as i can tell the stream didn't go away. Everyone could hear the entire opening sequence from my end so once again it's your stuff that is not working No, its Skype

01:31 Okay, Skype. Skype unhooked all my stuff! Dude you have no idea it's your stuff You just need to bite the bullet and upgrade to Comcast business thing whatever they're trying to sell you because they'll keep jiggling The wires on you this is their strategy. Hey there on the air what are gonna do Bill watch this Hey, that was a hilarious opening. Good job good job we screwed him up again Yeah That's funny because in the olden days when they were having to win the phone companies had to deal with you know Open pipes as it were and they had these competitors come in for early internet service yeah And this was in the in the 90s there There was common complaint because they had to use the same

02:18 buildings that the phone companies were in and these guys would always complain that the phone companies would come there just pull their wires out of this. Oh yeah, I don't know. Hey screw you! You punk! No out of those big strips... What are you gonna do about it? Remember those big strips? The-the-the big plastic things he had a special tool and could push the wires in there Yeah. Yeah oh yeah no of course Of course that's the way to go Don't do anything like that Anyway so uh I'm becoming an alcoholic Well, you better stop drinking man. I don't drink... I'm drunk already. You could be drunk already but you're not quite. Okay, I'm not. I thought admitting it was the first step in the right direction but i understand you know? I kind of take back what I've said about certain about the Brits

03:12 who have very similar weather to what's going on here in the lowlands. I mean, no wonder you people drink! It's like you get up, it's gray. How was your day? It was gray. It's like drink and now in Gitmo Lowlands they have the... They've also I think there is a year or whatever they've had this no smoking in bars policy which by the way half of the bars ignore that and they have upstairs where you can drink and smoke upstairs but the one right down below right off to the side of where we're renting our Airbnb IKEA apartment they have a no smoking indoors policy so on you know like Friday night and Saturday night, people go out to drink and smoke. On the street? Yeah until like 3 in the morning and it's underneath our window! And of course now I'm not smoking... So we smell the smoke. You might as well be The smoke is coming up and yeah we're turning into smoke Nazis now because now i can smell it now that's disgusting

04:15 And they're loud and they're laughing, and they're drunk. You know what am I gonna do? It's like... I go down and party! This is why i'm now an alcoholic this is my point! So he was like all right honey let's get up it's two in the morning we might as well go drink with these fuckers let's go so uh so we're drinking quite a bit Uh this is uh it's entertaining that's for sure um but i've noticed a couple of observations here There's one thing that is really annoying the heck out of me and that is trash bag technology. Now, when you pull the trash bag out of the bin and you want to dispose of it in the appropriate place do your trash bags have like little plastic things that slip out of the holes? And its a built-in tie system

05:06 What are you talking about? Do you utilize trash bags. Yes, okay when the trash bag is full and you're taking it out of the bin and you need to close it to put it in its proper place do you have built-in closing technology no you use twisty ties No, no, oh you're talking about well I buy the bags that have the red Like it's like a look like a red piece of plastic inside. Yeah pull on that yes closes Yes, this technology I use those this technology all that technology But yes, I use this technology does not exist here They're still nice they would they still give you a box of a box of bags with twisty ties

05:46 How insane is that? That's crazy talk. I'm telling you, the market is wide open for the Dvorak Curry Trash Bag Consulting Group! This is...I can't believe this and I made a study of it. It said honey let's go to three different stores let's see if we can find Proper trash bags that have now I think in Austin we have the yellow strip in there. So you've got the red strip? I think I've seen the red strip and maybe, you know hefty hefty Yeah But they don't have that here you dig they still give you a strip of ties That's crazy it just makes no sense to me how it makes no sense to me I mean if there's something illegal about the bread That won't be funny. I mean even if they have it

06:32 Why would anyone still be selling bags with the twisty tie system? That makes no sense, even if it's not illegal. Well you know they made it illegal just in this last week or since January 1st in the entire Alameda County which includes Berkeley and I think there are other progenitors along with Oakland...the plastic bags at the store Oh, you can't? The grocery store you mean to take your stuff home. Yeah. So now when you go the grocery store you have to buy a bag which is one of those canvas things where the E. coli sits at the bottom. Right yeah the ones that they were contaminated

07:12 Yeah, the unsanitary plastic bags it cost anywhere from a dime to 50 cents and I'm sorry so in the chat room just said the Jews did that with the bags. I mean come on people Let's pipe down a little bit hey hey hey This is this exactly how we get early hummers very few of them which I might say are Jewish although there are some I do have a Hummer by the way on the On the clip list oh really? Oh this is good Wait, but there's... I do have more. Unless it's something really important about the vets. Oh no no! I'd rather hear about this craziness going on over there because you're hopefully won't be here forever. Yeah yeah. Well so Mickey had her interview at the embassy

07:52 And this was at the embassy. She got to go into the embassy? Yes, she had to go into the embassy Okay now however we are learning and well We've already of course learned our lesson you know You have to fill out all the paperwork properly stupid slave otherwise I get denied in the country after due to do it right no But number you have to so It says very specifically When you go for your interview, she had to be interviewed and she was able to get an appointment at 825 a.m., two days after she called but okay, 825 am. And the embassy it's got crazy...

08:34 It's like a rats maze, you know they've got all these barricade walls. You can't really get to the front I mean you could not drive a tank into the front of the embassy When i was in Madrid stuck with my stolen passport taken by gypsies Damn Gypsies! Seriously, they have an embassy there that's like that too. And it's also homely It's like a very poor representation of the United States. It looks like Stalin designed these things I think technically is the consulate I don't know if it's at the embassy is in The Hague. I think technically it's the consulate Okay, well this was actually the embassy and by the way You know If you don't want to get robbed by gypsies Don't let the Gypsy hooker rub up against you in future just for future reference because that's how it happened, you know

09:25 That's how it happened. I know how it happened, and it wasn't some gypsy hooker! Okay so um and they...and so you have to bring your uh oh by the way the form is used to be that you could fill out forms now we have to go online and fill out your form D160 and upload a picture That has to be exactly the right proportions and pixels. And so you know, it's like yeah Oh, yeah I'm walking around with a scanner in my luggage So oh, yeah is that that's a scam and but let me drop one of my thing when I had to get my short-term two day passport to get out of the country. You have to get the picture at a specific place now they have my picture in the computer already yeah, oh yeah of course be from the other passport there I am and I saw it you know there's my picture why don't you just move that picture? Oh no! You see me i'm standing right here hello see this and that picture both match Why don't you put that on them on the document instead

10:22 Instead of having to walk across the hall to some scammer that's charging me 25 bucks To take a Polaroid. Hey, let me let me ask you this was the guy where you had to take the Polaroid? Was he a gypsy? I'm smelling a scam So, yeah. Then there's that part and then of course you have to print it out! Yeah of course I'm walking around with a printer so... It is not like this is not 24-7 economy like Kinko's So okay, so we find that. Luckily I had a thumb drive because it was like oh well if you want to email it to a computer there and then because of course Mickey's on the iCloud email or whatever which doesn't have a web interface. Then it would cost you extra 15 euros if you wanted... just nightmare! Okay, she has the appointment she goes and it said very specifically in the instructions

11:17 You cannot bring any electronic gadgets into the building. What kind of a catch-22 is this? Well, here's the worst because she has Taxi Eric. You know Taxi Eric. So Taxi Eric drives her there and of course all she has is her phone and she's like okay I'll just leave my phone at the slave scanning device Right in the beginning And then pick it up so she says oh hi...so she's first in line because she has the appointment She gets to go through a special premium line

11:53 And she says, oh here's my phone. And they said, wait a minute you have to go all the way out outside of the barricade slave and dispose of your phone and then get in the back of the line now 60 people because you broke the rule slave. I mean so it is also like freezing as she has a cold. So she calls Eric has to give the phone to Eric Who then, you know she says well just come back in like three hours whatever because I have no phone. I can't call you woman alone and that's now the system You can't have a flight yeah, you cannot when I went into Madrid when I went into the Madrid Embassy

12:38 You get in line and you stand outside in the cold, and then they open the doors at exactly or one minute after they're supposed to open them. And then you go in there and then there's a guy who collects all that stuff. Yeah. No! And he gives you a coupon... No no no no! You stupid slave! ...and put it in a bin. No, you stupid slave!! Shut up!!! They don't do that anymore? You cannot follow instructions?! It's ridiculous! They make you not show up? You have to come naked? I mean what is the deal? Well that would be a plus. They make you leave the premises, LEAVE THE PREMISES! Outside of the barricades and go back into the slave line not the premium line So I get to...of course I'm getting these texts Mickey's like... It's essentially ever since Janet Napolo... I thought she had an appointment? Why should she have to go through any of this rigmarole? Because she violated the rules

13:35 She came, she showed up with an electronic device that says specifically you can't show up with an electronic device. She violated the rules therefore all bets are off in the back of the line slave without your phone I'm telling you this is ever since Janet Napolitano took over Department of Homeland Security it's a nation of Nazis, brown-shirted freaking Nazis and that's the State Department who are inside but it's Department of Homeland Security that has all this crap around. It's nuts! You know when I bitch about my experiences in the

14:13 Yes, we remember. And I wrote about it and I got a letter...I think I mentioned this on one of the shows from the State Department from I guess one of the embassies or something and she moaned and groaned at me saying you know this and that and she would give me no return email, no address nothing! I couldn't get ahold of her to say where she was wrong because she was. No one cares about you but let me just remind you that I have an uncle who who was an ambassador, an ambassador for many years. Yes, and actual ambassador And the very famous one as part of the Department of State He can pick up the phone and call at least two living former presidents he has on speed dial just to say hey how you doing? I called him before, remember back home, I'm not... He says get a lawyer

15:08 And he said, get a lawyer. He said Adam I can't help you get a lawyer ever since this Homeland Security showed up he says these people are trained to make your life impossible Get a lawyer This is a man who can call presidents Now maybe just hates me that's also possible but No no that wouldn't be true I don't think so But that just goes to show Anyway So with some luck we will be hearing if Mickey She wants a bogative name too by the way. She's a little upset that you know, I'm Alan your Jeb she's like how come i'm still Mickey? What?! She's not... I'm telling you! Oh she's not saying that. That's-she literally said that literally says how come i'm still Mickey? I want to- She wants a pseudonym? She wants a new name too Well let them let the audience decide yes Now speaking of um there was something you just said that triggered this in me i'm not quite sure what it is anyway

16:08 Remember I talked about the eco mode on these, on the cars here? Yeah. Okay so for those who... We got some letters on this by the way. Yeah we did and i want to read one So the eco mode which is very strange it's very unnerving you're driving in a car or even in the cabs this where I noticed that and then you come to a stoplight and the engine quits it just goes off And then when you hit the accelerator it starts and then you move on again. It's pretty quick but still it's a weird, really weird... It's nothing you want? No! It doesn't feel correct at all. It's like you stalled the car or whatever Yeah, no it's unnerving. So producer Blake who is from Gitmo Nation East in the UK says I wanted to read this verbatim he says all new cars in Gitmo Nation East have this eco mode they call it start stop here which is probably more correct than eco mode He says that sucks

17:00 The only reason they are including it, and this is why I thought of you... ...is to help the bogative mile per gallon figures as the extra urban test includes stopping in traffic. Gitmo East is all about CO2 figures which would make sense, you know that all of Europe is like this now at miles-per-gallon There's a huge scam going on A lot of the Ford models have published 50 miles per gallon Everybody at work is struggling to get 35 miles per gallon from these crappy cars of course our employer pays for fuel based on the manufacturer's figures so everyone is now out of pocket for doing business miles on behalf of the company losing fifty plus pounds a month from their own pay did you not test drive some car that said 50 miles a gallon and it couldn't get it? no, 47. 47 okay but this is bound to show up in america because we know the new legislation

17:50 I never thought his angle about the pay, you know you get a certain amount per mile if you drive a car. Yeah A company car and company time or whatever you get 40 cents is what typically in the United States is 40 cents a mile It depends on your company, but I can see some cheap companies like saying well you're going to drive a high mileage car we're gonna give you 30 cents a mile. Which is like there's usually just a flat number and you get the best milage that you can so this is kind of maybe they do this in some places most places they don't And also the IRS gives you a certain credit and what kind of car do you drive? So what I think is important is that since we have legislation now passed in the United States, where all vehicles will have to adhere to some crazy mile per gallon in 2015.

18:43 I think it's out further than that, but this isn't Obama. They want everyone to get 50 miles per gallon! Right but this is the way to do it! But this is the way to do it! This is what we're going to see! Well yeah...it adds to-yeah It's one way to do it. Ruin The Car Yes!! This is what were gonna get We're gonna have start stop crap in America just for them to be able to use the same car and get more miles per gallon with the start-stop thing? Well, with the hybrids they essentially do that automatically because they're never running when you're stopped. The motor's not running and then you hit the gas it's all electric so the electric takes off and when you stop there's nothing...the electrics not doing anything So that is essentially what I see in the future or the way this is going unless somebody puts a stop to it which I don't see

19:29 You're just going to have to get a hybrid. That's all there is to it, and there is no solution to this. I've got it here. So by 2025 – so we gotta… that's 12 years – all new vehicles in the U.S. must have an average of the equivalent of 54 1⁄2 miles per gallon But by 2016... A moped barely gets that. In 2016 it has to be 35 and a half so that's already gonna, that would be eco mode territory you get thirty five and a half as we just see from this email with the start stop thing going on So put in in book Start Stop your new car will have start-stop

20:15 Yep, I'm sure it will. And I've driven start-stop cars and gas cars and it's a nightmare. It's annoying? Especially going up and down the hill believe me you're not gonna like it. It's unpleasant Wait a minute Just forget it You're gonna get a hybrid I hadn't even thought about that The start stop thing on this there are no hills here so thats not a problem So if that is a problem in Hill Country, which is most of the world. But this only for new vehicles I bet you that my truck will still be running by 2016 probably and Miss Mickey will still have a Range Rover by 2016? Well there's another story but

20:56 They could be, you'd never know. They could ban the older cars and you have to get special permits for them or who knows what? Have to pay more... Right now you pay less than this is here's a scam I'll put this in the book right now You pay almost nothing for older cars they get them registered because their old Let's think about this differently if you're going to be somebody that is scrounging for money. Let's start charging more for older cars, so encourage people get the new cars with the black box and just stop. But this is why we had the whole cash-for-clunkers thing they destroyed cars! They literally destroyed the secondhand market by... I mean this wasn't just like taking cars and giving people credit for them they were physically breaking the engines remember this?

21:40 Yeah, it's hilarious. We'll see more of that just going I mean that its insane It's just insane its insane well well well well well yeah That was fun You know who else is let me just say something our president our vice president? I'm sorry Joe Biden Yeah He's insane Did you see what he was doing to all the wives and the daughters of the new Congress? Did you see any of this video? No, I didn't see any. Oh my God! So they had swearing-in day right yeah and let me see if i have two clips from him so basically he's meeting all

22:34 all of the Senate's families and he is doing pictures, taking pictures with them which by the way are completely bogative pictures. But somehow he has a mic where you can hear him and it is just like hey baby how are you doing? Oh yeah this is so hot! Wow! Oh crap, for some reason it's gotten into the wrong... Maybe it's here into the wrong... Because I have NBC making a... Joking about it. Whereas if this was anyone else you know It is a complete outrage Hold on where is? Well sure, whoever that was wasn't him Now what happened to my clip? Ah this sucks hold on a second This such a good setup here Well I don't know... Get around get it find it I seem to have lost it

23:32 Well, let's play one of your clips to get going while I look for well. I mean my clip is like anti-climactic after that Lee and well Okay, I have him talking to Senator King's wife Angus king and he's hugging her, you have to see the video really it is kind of hard to hear on the audio. And then someone just throws a bible at her literally like thrusts a bible at her and then she grabs it and then you can hear O'Biden going like oh yeah here you stand in the middle over here and he's squeezing their back and holding them tight. This while he was getting sworn in? No no! He's swearing Angus King but they already are sworn in this is just for the photo op

24:15 So he's literally arranging this photo op and the guy puts his left hand on the Bible, and you hear Biden going like, oh it's got to look official so put your left hand on the Bible raise your right hand. But they're already sworn in! The whole thing is one big bogey of fakeness let's see if we can hear it. I'm watching every show. You think they'll give us a time? I guess I'm gonna have you stand right there. Okay, you gotta stand there Yeah, but it's a little hard to understand yeah, and you gotta see this video and um, so angry now that I can't find this

25:02 this NBC clip because you've got they're all laughing about it but the guy is he's insane. He's like wow! He literally was looking at one of the senators daughters and her boobs and going like ah! It's like he's drunk yeah no, well he is drunk yes I can't believe that with power I can't believe you haven't seen this so outstanding I don't know it's gone watching mostly Canadian broadcast oh really? Like there's a lot of stories like this. This is a good Canadian one, where I played girls in Edmonton who knew this was going on? To Edmonton now where advocates are speaking out about protecting teens from sexual exploitation It comes after two separate incidents where police say girls were lured online and forced into prostitution Officers believe there could be other victims out there CTV's Brianna Carstens-Smith has more

26:00 So apparently they were luring in Edmonton. Is that so strange? That it's happening in Edmonton? Well, Edmonton is pretty staid. I've never seen a hooker in Edmonton There was something else... Was there some kind of huge thing about some kids that I guess sexually assaulted some girls after a party and took pictures of them. Yeah, why Steubenville is the clip? This will bring you up to speed. Okay because i was reading about that The online activist group known as Anonymous held a rally in the small town of Steubenville Ohio which has been rocked by allegations of rape and cover-up

26:39 Anonymous says it's uncovered information that points to a cover-up to protect school football players. A cover up, anonymous says includes not only the players but also town officials today anonymous members wearing their trademark Guy Fawkes masks are hosting a demonstration in the town and Steubenville's city manager and its police chief today launched a website, steubenvillefacts.org to keep the community up-to-date on the case it began after a videotape surfaced last week of a teenage girl being raped last August by at least two teenage boys reportedly members of a school football team

27:20 So is this another coat? I have a clip of Dr. Drew. Wait a minute, hold on a second. Okay because i got question yeah does it relate to this one yes it is it's dr drew Oh, hit it. Okay and I think just to sort of dovetail off of that Dr. Drew jump in here with me i know that you have a very strong opinion about alcohol and how that fuels the flames but let me tell ya alcohol's been around a long time and this is one of those stories that sort of beats beats the rest Yes, we should all be disgusted and we should all be scared to death. Whenever Dr Drew by the way was paid to sell medication and promote it on his damn television show with Celebrity Rehab a paid shill for the pharmaceutical industry whenever he's saying you have to be afraid of something You got to pay attention because here's what all of us that our parents are standing here doing is saying not my kid But the fact if we live in a world where we don't know that Pornography has been raining down on these kids

28:19 Pornography has been raining down. John, get the umbrella! It's raining porn! Social media is changing their ability to be empathic and they are treating particularly women these young men as objects because that's what they get on the internet these days and unless you actively parent against that You could be stuck with this So true On top of that Wait, Bastian but any measure any measure of adverse outcome you look at an adolescent, you find alcohol and drugs. Whether it's rape STDs unwanted pregnancies whatever it is you always find alcohol and we have to be much more firm and intervene much more aggressively on the alcohol issue. You know what? The New York Times reported that this all stemmed the genesis of this was a very big party end-of-summer party at a coach's house they had full bar and little plastic glasses

29:04 you know, provided. So I mean certainly there was a lot of alcohol involved in the lotteries. Ashley, I told my kids if they go to a party where parent is doing that i'm going to come show up with the sheriff and have them have the adults hauled off and I am gonna laugh out on the lawn while they do something. I'm gonna laugh on the lawn! Because they are accountable for this ultimately. And listen... Okay so I presume this is a war on the demon drink of alcohol? Well yeah but that's actually not where I wanted to go with that clip of mine but it I think it's a good place to go but I just want bring one thing up that was the anonymous, I'm sorry the anomaly. The anom...I'm never going to say it, anomaly regarding anonymous why are they in Steubenville?

29:45 That's our headquarters. That must be! The only reason I can think of that Anonymous would show up and actually be hacking into the system to bust these guys for this whatever the cover-up is, is that some one of their main guys...I don't know why they do this because it's like revealing that some anonymous heavyweights must be in Ohio There's no other reason for it No other reason for it Yeah Are you still there? It sounded like he kind of dropped off at the face of the earth

30:24 Oh god, he'll come back. Wow. Connecting? Now I'm still streaming that was you man! That was you. Yeah that was totally you Hello?! Okay I found the Okay, sorry you want to continue with your no. I just why I'm just thinking I don't know what that mean it Maybe they're playing their hand. I don't know what the deal is but there's obviously some Buddy is connected this tube and bill that they would be so they would then this is a minor story in a my I mean It was not minor to the girl now obviously But this is not a big

31:01 a big story this is not an international intrigue. I agree, no i think you're completely right something's going on with Steubenville yeah and it sounds to me like more like a pedo bear story than anything when you get Dr Drew in this is his reintroduction by the way drew has been off the map ever since he was busted on being a shill for uh... for the pharmaceutical industry and selling anti-depressants in his show and receiving money for it. What is it? I think was $300,000 or 250 thousand dollars. We should be so lucky! Yeah hey we even play the commercials and we still don't get paid how dumb are we?! We're stupid! Anyway I have the NBC clip here and of course you'll be able to hear Biden literally like chatting up these chicks

31:52 He's clearly preoccupied with this. Because it is an outrage when you see this, but then the NBC guy is like oh he's charming and so hilarious where he literally sexually assaulting them! Check it out. The vice president clearly relished his chance to greet senators families and there was certainly a lot of charm being poured on by the vice president. Spread your legs, you're gonna be frisked. He's saying spread your legs! What? He says... he says spread your legs. He said spread your legs?! You're gonna be frisked yeah he says this to one of the they're standing for photo op listen just listen to it I want you next to me

32:31 Holy mackerel! day that is just so this is NBC you know the like that all day if you need any help on your pecs let me know hours of looking at her breasts no no that's that's no she says when he's looking at the girl's breast he says holy mackerel I know, I know. The guy is insane drunk for both

33:09 Holy mackerel, he said. He'd look you know there's a beautiful guy and a beautiful young woman in a red dress And I think he's she's a daughter of one of the senators anything and he looks straight down at her boobs It goes holy mackerel Really well that's our government Meanwhile Mickey can't get into the embassy yes, and and you know and she'd be happy to have Joe Biden look at her boobs if She can get a green card I can't believe it. Yeah, meanwhile we are actually... The Fisco Cliff is actually here John!

33:49 known as our donations for today. Oh yeah we have, we did have one, we got one instant night which is fantastic. We had one instant night which actually saved the day otherwise it would've been horrible and um... Do you have a note from this? Yeah I do actually he comes in as uh... I think his pronouns is Xinjun which is actually a province in China and he wants to be known purely anonymous donation he wants me known as the anonymous Chiner. And he'd ask us, he says why I don't get this Chiner thing? He hasn't been listening to this show too long and I explained it is that it's...I don't think its an insult of the Chinese. I don't know where comes from and we might as well explain that came from Rick Perry who caught you know he was doing one of his speeches once in he couldn't pronounce China. He kept saying China

34:43 He kept saying, Chiner. I know the Chiners and the Chiners this and the China so we picked it up." I don't know if he actually said The Chiners... No, he never said The Chiners but he pronounced it Chiner. I think we may have done a little bit of that but yeah, we added... Hey come on! Jeb and Alan can do whatever they want because we have no sponsors, no advertisers is how the system works. That's why we asked for these contributions and he gave us a 1040 named after the tax form, and we want to thank him Matthew and he's in San Ramon California. Matthew Farrell Leland North Carolina is also associate executive producer $203.28 like the triple D douching as I've been called out once

35:26 by my best friend's wife, Christina and twice by old friend Eric Henry in Orlando. The donation is three times Eric's last donation of $67.76 I'd like to call out Lee Elliott or Ellett as a douchebag. As he hit me in the mouth almost five years ago and has yet to donate even after his wife called us both out several months ago! Oh no! Can I get some karma for Lee and Christina? Let's see what he has got. It is Christina, I guess. Or he might have mistyped it and it might have been just Christina. No, it was on both times. That one hot milk baby and we had Karma one hot milk baby We are just living the American dream with our 8 month old twin human resources Eddie or Eddie and Mila Alright here we go. That one hot milk baby You've got Karma Yay!

36:20 And then, let me take a quick look in the email and see if Harm sent us anything. I don't think so but then we have one other... Oh you did! He sent us A note, Craig Harms came in Wichita Kansas for $200. He was the second associate executive producer and he says no karma it's bogative. He wants us to follow him on Twitter Craig Harms at Craig Harms and then he wants a drunk voice can I get a douche bag for jab? Douchebag!

37:04 Love the show or show before where John explained the moonshine documentation. Excellent episode at literally the night after I listened to that episode, we have a bottle of moonshine in the old liquor cabinet and some white girl asked me what I was thinking it was some of run off brand vodka and when I told her to just read the documentation, I was immediately given a dumbfounded look as they laughed my ass off. I got a lot of people who really liked your quote was you have to read your documentation, people. It's like whenever I'm like open up a box of aspirin or something. I feel compelled and like oh, I have to read that my documentation I need to read about this aspirin there's a flyer in there. I must read it Documentation you never know what's in their anyways? He wants another douchebag for the douchebag across the street from where he's building a new house They're calling me and bitching about an empty cardboard box on the job site blowing into his front yard Leroy

38:08 is that his name Leroy? I don't know. Oh, wow! Anyway so that's our two associate executive producers and one executive producer for show 476 hopefully people will be more enthusiastic so we don't get off to a lousy start like we did last year last January and bring it up for 477 go to Dvorak.org slash NA channel Dvorak dot com slash na no agenda nation and no agenda No Agenda Nation and noagendashow.com, and look for the donate button if you can't find it at Dvorak.org And I might as well just say while we're at it in the morning to you John C. Dvorak Well in the morning to you Adam Curran In the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air Feet in the water subs in the water and all the knights and dames out there who helped us All throughout 2012 yes, and also thank you to all of our artists special Thanks to Kevin Thomas

39:00 who provided the art for episode 475. You can always find all of our album art, a nice broad selection at noagendaartgenerator.com We can only choose one for each particular show By the way! Someone who was doing it is now also taking the current album and putting it on the Google Plus page which looks kind of nice because when you hit communities Yeah, you wish I think why am i even trying to explain this to you? I was there. I posted Do are you a member of multiple communities uh one yeah, I have multiple. I'm a member of the amateur radio community oh I thought you could only be in one no no I'm a member of many communities You know it's

39:49 What? Well, no I mean it's...I'm annoyed because now we've got like 1700 people in the Google Plus community and it's actually kind of heating up but now Now I'm seeing how this whole Google Plus thing It sucks! I just want an RSS feed of everything that people post there That would be great. Now there is a whole other thing I gotta look at I want all one place Could someone please make an RSS feed Of all new posts in the Google Plus community Scrape it, I don't care Whatever you have to do It's just... and you know, it is kind of what you're saying or let me just deconstruct what you said. Yes? It's old-fashioned and it stinks! That's exactly what I'm saying John! Hey even if you can't help us out financially You can always go and do this one thing with our formula Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Shut up! Hell yeah shut up slave

40:59 I mean, it's yeah that part of it is really old-fashioned and actually I was here This this will probably good because people are into it. I can't help it there's so many downsides to it and it's just But people are there, this is the thing that annoys me is people using it so now I kind of got to go check out. But the Noah Jenner News Network is still where all of the news and real stories are coming through you know I just wish we could integrate the two but then... So there was this a I was watching Military Times TV on the interwebs and It was actually, it was the guy's introduction and I'll play a little bit of this interview that he had with some intelligent... yeah some consultant which you or i could have easily done this interview but it was the opening to this. I'm like oh! I'm gonna watch this interview When Pentagon officials talk about intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance known as ISR they usually mean optical radar and electronic eavesdropping But now humans are becoming unwitting censors that the Pentagon in US intelligence agencies are trying to harness in what's known as population-centric ISR

42:02 I love that unwitting sensors in population-centric ISR. I'm like, oh i love this the 400 million is actually considered one of the key elements well let me play the interview in a second hold on tweets sent around the world each day can be mined for valuable intel clues and with the right software and technology spy agencies can turn all that data into a powerful predictive tool Aaron Rothman is the editor of C4ISR Journal, a sister publication to Defense News and is the author of the cover story Unwitting Sensors How DOD Is Exploiting Social Media. Unwitting sensors! So all of you on Google Plus are unwitting sensors okay? Yeah with an S not a C Correct And here he is about how part of it works The tools that the intelligence agencies are using To be able to mine all this information that's out there

42:52 First of all, they need to get it all. One of the ways they get it all is Twitter. Twitter sells a product to very few companies called the full twitter fire hose and that fire hose terminology gives you an impression how much data there is 400 million tweets is obviously so much data its impossible for anybody to even grasp how big that is A number of companies are trying to mine this and market it in ways that are specific to DoD, and the CIA and other intelligence agencies. You tell the CIA's venture capital firm has been interested in some of this stuff but what about some of the companies that have been developing products?

43:33 One of the companies funded by the CIA's In-Q-Tel was a firm called Intensity out in California and they provide powerful tools. They're one of the customers for the full Twitter firehose, that is one company. Another one is sort of smaller a group called uh... intensity they market to state department and others again the same type of products blues allen is developing its product to try to say we can do this too they buy default where firehose from others and they've applied their own software to look at it and i think they believe that apply in different ways all sorts of bulletin boards are such as twitter bulletin boards no social media channels so thank you tell of course uh... did this business

44:16 Strangely enough not mentioned in this interview are one of the early investors in Facebook and as you know Google is is in fact Gmail is the email client of choice for the intelligence community This is that's their there. They're in-house email system so What is happening now is all this stuff that you love so much, you know and oh please You know let's all use the centralized systems. Let's use Twitter. Let's use Google+. They're going out the cloud they're going to come in and they are going to start arresting people And I tend to go and if you are now a member of the No Agenda Google Plus community you Are you will be arrested? Do you know why?

45:00 you know yes you will be, and do you know why? Because I am right after the show i'm uploading the terrorist encyclopedia. The terrorist encyclopedia That document, among many bomb-related materials police say belonged to a young couple living in a high end apartment in New York City's trendy Greenwich Village. The couple 31 year old Aaron Greene and 27 year old Morgan Gleadman are in police custody they've been charged with felony possession of an explosive with intent to use and felony criminal possession of a weapon you see how it works is that you have possession of the terrorist encyclopedia which shows you how to use these materials to create bombs and get arrested. And I'm uploading that the Google Plus right after the show, and i am a moderator so you can't kick it off. What?

45:50 The terrorist encyclopedia, what bomb did they have? They had a bomb. No they didn't. This is bogative you know! Of course it is really bogative. Okay okay I get it but there's enough stuff in the kitchen under the sink Yes to make a bomb. Well, that's what the terrorist encyclopedia is Yeah And so you look you have the terrorists Encyclopedia a yeah and then you have this stuff under the sink because you have to clean your drains once in awhile Yeah, and you said so therefore you have bomb making equipment and book proves that you are gonna make a bomb But this is bullcrap. Yeah exactly The terrorist encyclopedia is way cool though

46:33 Is it? What does it got in there? Oh, because it's very hard to Google this because now of course you know all you get is stories about these two slubs. Yeah You can do with a Julian search date searching and so I actually found the text The terrorist encyclopedia version 1 dot 0 2 I have the latest version. I was hoping you'd get one point one point two A publication from the psycho department by metamorphosis Okay, so Table of Contents Chemicals Acquiring Chemicals List of Useful Household Chemicals and Availability Preparation of Chemicals Nitric Acid Sulfuric Acid Ammonium Nitrate It's basically a cookbook. What was the name of that book that actually was the cookbook? The Anarchist Cookbook isn't that the name of it? I don't remember

47:23 Don't pretend, don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about. I just mean these things come and go. I'll tell ya this much if people think they're gonna make homemade explosives and they haven't been in the army and they haven't learned how to handle this stuff and they haven't learned the tricks of the trade from pros... They could hurt themselves! You're gonna blow yourself up! Yeah it could hurt yourself pretty badly Yeah, you'll blow your hand off and there's a million things that people just have no clue. You know these books are bullcrap in fact I think a lot of these books if i'm not mistaken If I think we must have talked about this thing before because I'm pretty sure there was a lot of bad Information in they're almost pretty much like use this book and and you'll be sorry Well can we could we sell this as a as an Amazon giblet?

48:07 One of those $3.50 or what are they, $2.99 or whatever? This would be great! Yeah... Hello?! Hello?? No I think it goes something like this... So for some reason my- I opened up the terrorist cookbook on my computer and now everything's frozen Yeah, there you go. There you have it That's what it's all about that terrorist cookbook is some I believe it's probably a honey pot or some son some sort well yeah This too dumb. I mean yeah of course You want to learn how to make explosives goat? You know go to join the army right oh

48:53 You know, or work for a dynamite factory. I mean there's no way you're gonna just do it on your... this is just way is not right to even think you can. I mean what are the... because essentially I think what these kids had was peroxide. Yeah they probably had blonde hair But I think essentially it was just peroxide. They had a but they had like a shotgun or something else That's and the weird thing about these these two kids Is that the they were rich where they came from rich? In fact, you know did you are you familiar with the whole no one is immune Susan Candiotti is out front with their story susan is out front

49:31 It's not the kind of activity you'd expect in an apartment in a posh section of Manhattan. But when police raided the home of Aaron Green and Morgan Gleadman in Greenwich Village, they found explosive material called HMTD. HMTD John? You know what HMTD is? No I don't Oh Well, that's basically Hold on my system is broken. I think that's basically peroxide and chemicals used to make it look along with two shotguns a flare gun and high-capacity magazine a high capacity magazine Which is like? I guess I mean that's the year end playboy special High Capacity Magazine The HMTD is extremely vulnerable

50:14 And that's why the building was evacuated and surrounding buildings. That's the police commissioner, Kelly there? Well we're certainly put on notice because of the ability to just go off at any given time. Hold on hold stop the presses! HMT...HMPTD... Stop stop the presses I'm looking at a web page which is right up there if you just type in HMTD all caps. Yeah, got it. It's the third or fourth hit it's on the MIT.edu web server Arrest these people!

50:52 Seriously, this is not only a methodology for making it. It's from a military manual so it's probably pretty good stuff. Rogue science dash mere dot explosives HMTD and this is a step by step methodology right here on the interwebs sent out by Google from the MIT server on how to make this particular product Excellent. There you go, we can make it does take hydrogen peroxide and something called methanamine never heard of it. You need a magnetic stirrer with stirring right so you need some equipment there's not much to make in this stuff little citric acid and then some alcohol and let dry and doesn't store well So you have to deal with it immediately so another words if this is true they would have to be blowing something up pretty soon

51:44 When I was a... This is bull crap. Yeah, oh no of course well there's little more As shocking the suspects come from successful families Aaron Greene's father is a successful business owner Morgan Gleadman's dad is a well-known doctor who owns the building where the two lived rent free Gleedman's mom as a high end hooker realtor Greene's lawyer declined to comment I love it with high and realtor It'll be fun. Yeah, hold on a second. Hold on a second There's another thing a little tidbit in here Let me just read this right from the document from MIT, which is on the internet. The lab uses blah-blah-blah... I hear it's in Boston somewhere. It's in the area. 3% kinase A to 10 times that HMDTD which is hexamethylene tetramethylene triperoxide diamine

52:44 Well, that's you can provide a way chemical names to be pronounced two or three different ways. But this one here I always like my way better of course used here is also called hexamine and methamine and blah blah blah it can be purchased as heating tablets As to what heating tablets are they are used in camping And in the military for heating meals or hand warmers It's very unlikely you'll find this anymore, so you can synthesize your own and people would do that to make the stuff for that purpose. Not necessarily as an explosive. No just if you want to heat up your meal! It should be kept away from metals as it will corrode and HMTD will detonate if struck but only will only burn if heated

53:25 So, okay. This was a product you could have had some heating tablets and then you would have that book plus the heating tablets and then you're in jail? This is terrible! They are going to prove more than that on these two kids. I think the guns, the flare gun and high capacity magazine. The high capacity magazine. I got a lot from Aaron Burnett. What were these two guys, these two people going to do? There's no information on that. They're just picking people up and who knows if they planted the magazine! I mean...I don't trust any of this stuff Really?! Yeah well let me ask you a different question then actually what i would like to do first is let me play you a little bit

54:15 of our president's little show there. Yeah, it just ran. Where is the President Show? Here it is. You know how words matter and it just gets more annoying to me the more doublespeak is out there. From your president's YouTube address... I congratulate the newly sworn in members of Congress that Joe Biden was fondling and look forward to working with the new congress in a bipartisan way If we focus on the interests of our country, above the interests of party I'm convinced that we can cut spending and raise revenue in a manner that reduces our deficit and protects the middle class. Now, protects the middle class? Uh...I'm going to ask you question about that in a moment And we can step up to meet the important business that awaits us this year

55:06 Creating jobs boosting incomes and listen to how everything is a dichotomy creating jobs boosting incomes That's almost that's almost a complete Dichotomy because the more jobs the lower the incomes are gonna be fixing our infrastructure and our immigration system Fixing our infrastructure and our immigration system very interesting promoting our energy independence while protecting our planet from promoting it's like more oil but protect the planet harmful effects of climate change Now what exactly is he saying there? Educating our children and shielding them from the horrible effects of gun violence. He's not saying making sure they're not killed

55:51 He's saying something very specific, shielding them from the horrible effects of gun violence. What do you... Play that again! That was exact quote play it last part again Maybe I'm misquoting that would suck let me see what does he say? Them from the horrors of gun violence From the horrors Shielding them from the horrors of gun violence I don't know It seemed a little weird to me Anyway, so when he says protecting the middle class here's a question. By the way can we stop right now and I'm gonna bring something up because we bring this gun thing up Okay Everybody's going on and on about oh horrors of gun violence to this into that no second amendment is not that big of a deal We should hey here it's very simple

56:35 The Constitution is the Constitution. The Second Amendment can be repealed just like anything else if you really have this feeling, and where is this by the way? Where is the movement to repeat all these anti-gun guys? Tell me what website to go to. I have never seen it the movement the big Big movement because the public so upset about this to get rid of the Second Amendment It's very doable you just pass an amendment run it through the Constitution have the states vote on it and guns are banned It's not that hard to do You can do what they did with alcohol they can do it with guns if they want to how come this hasn't happened well

57:17 I will just point out the obvious then that even if the second amendment is repealed, that does not necessarily take away the right to gun ownership. It takes the constitutional right away... No it does not! It removes the right for the to protect against the government from taking guns away. It doesn't say that you don't have the right The only thing the Second Amendment says is there's a right, uh...the government may not infringe upon the well-armed militia. It's not it's not a right to have guns it's not. It is a protection against the government removing guns. Right you can have local laws that protect

57:57 prohibit you having guns. You just can't have federal laws, but they're still pointing to the second amendment all the time. I know because of the whole thing is bogatyr. The whole thing is bogatyr! The whole second amendment argument is a moot point that's what I'm saying no one is actually taking the time to read these four lines that it does not say you have the right to have guns. No, it says the government may not infringe upon the right of people to bear arms That's what is says! That's probably why they're not going after it Let's make a whole bunch of other little laws But it doesn't matter because thats not what I'm interested in I don't care take away the guns whatever citizens do whatever is good for ya

58:39 Do you really care, John? Are you going to like stand there with your gun and take it away?" I'm not standing outside holding a gun. Hey! You get off my lawn." I haven't got a lawn that's the irony. But if you've got a gun...I would hope as far as i know everybody does. I love being here in Europe and people say man what's it like in Austin? I said everybody's really polite because we're armed People go, oh. I know that really Europeans are just and that's why i really disagree with this whole idea let's be more European they're just they got no but they're just the balls have been cut off years ago yeah and then they all say but wait a minute Mickey has a gun

59:23 Yeah, Sig Sauer 380 in the glove box with a laser sight and that really... What do you need a laser sight for? Varmints. You pull that thing. That's the answer by the way, varmints. You get one of those red dots on your forehead it makes an impression. Well if you can see it. Anyway, real question is what exactly the middle class I knew you were going to get back to that. Yeah, that's why you try to distract me with this all this Second Amendment crap although You're totally right of course there is no movement This is just a bunch of bullcrap But what is the middle class? What is the definition of The Middle Class who is that are we in the Middle Class well? I don't know because I don't even know We have a middle-class as well the president keeps saying protecting the middle class help people get into the middle class and stay there

1:00:20 What's the class that he is apparently not in? I think it's the slaves, just the slave class. So The Book of Knowledge also doesn't really have a clear definition but the best part i can bring out of it...I'd like to read you here A persistent source of confusion surrounding the term middle-class derives predominantly from there being no set criteria for such a definition From an economic perspective, for example members of the middle class do not necessarily fall in the middle of a society's income distribution. Instead, middle-class salaries tend to be determined by middle class occupations which in turn are attained by means of middle class values The middle class is essentially a macro social group embracing individuals or rather categories of individuals marked by unique general attitude towards life I like this

1:01:18 Those are people who owe everything to their own efforts, resources, qualification education etc. Self-made as they are middle class people are furthermore self employed and relatively free and autonomous in their work Their knowledge... Where you reading this? Book of Knowledge! Wikipedia page then what is that what does it say that says it's a middle class Yes, middle class. Okay because there's a different definition in the Wikipedia No if you scroll down there's a box and that's what I'm reading from let me finish it Their knowledge and qualification, property and managerial skills are intentionally acquired. And so is the social status in between the upper crust and the wage earners slaves in between the envy of the world and the pitied ones." That's where that I think that is the correct definition. The middle class is in between the envy of the world and the pitied ones. I pity you little varmint

1:02:20 So that I think is the real definition in between the envy of the world and the pitied ones. Well, what is it then? No, I think you should go to the other definition that's in The Book Of Knowledge under American middle class Read it to us Members of the class belong to diverse groups which overlap each other. Overall, middle-class persons especially upper middle class individuals are characterized by conceptualizing creating and consulting thus college education is one of the main indicators of middle class status largely attributed in nature middle class occupations Middle Class values tend to emphasize independence adherence to intrinsic standards valuing innovation and respecting nonconformity politically more active than other demographics

1:03:02 College-educated middle class professionals are split between the two major parties. Income varies near the national median to well in excess of $100,000 they do not always reflect class status and standard of living they are largely influenced by a number of income earners and fail to recognize household size and therefore goes on it talks about what they do and their professionals that he says there very powerful group they encompassed majority voters writers teachers journalists these are not independent people that are entrepreneurs of their teacher or journalist for that matter our editors most societal trends originate within the middle class such completely different definition of what you have to know what is the answer i still don't so women because they don't have a college education which i don't and therefore lower-class

1:03:51 It's one of the main indicators of middle class status. You're totally middle-class by this definition, so there is another definition upper middle class in United States which is also on the Wikipedia these are all written obviously by different sociologists but it seems to be a group of people that supposedly It's supposed to be a shrinking group, but by this definition I don't see how that can be. I would just like some...I would like the president to explain who he is protecting when he says this. I know. Now I find it to be uh....

1:04:29 Interesting. It's all the middle class, the middle class get into the middle class everyone wants to get in the middle... I think a way to define it or a way to figure it out is by exclusion let's define that the lower-class and less lets define the upper-class and try to figure out what what's not in those two classes okay would be the middle class okay good so what do we think is upper-class? Politicians I don't think so. Really? Yeah. Royalty, royalty is royal, royalty with the upper class. Okay royalty. Landed people that have... How about scientists? The wealthy as opposed to the rich people that inherited a lot of money. Okay but wealthy starts at how much?

1:05:20 For just how much money you got or how much you say it would be in an excess of a hundred million dollars Okay, that's that's a good measure 100 million. So if you got 50 million your upper middle class Yeah You want to hear Elizabeth Warren on this particular? Yeah topic who I do not like by the way, I don't know her I don't like her at all She is a snot yeah that now That's an old-fashioned way of describing her, but I like it. issue. I know you would expect a very wonky answer from me about the percentiles, but it's not... Well that is because that would be the way you'd expect something to be written in bill form. It would be people with income levels here or there. No its not! When we strengthen education when we make it possible

1:06:30 for kids to go to college, then we strengthen America's middle class. And that doesn't mean a dollar figure. The middle class is by definition a group of people in a certain income level. No. This is... By the way that's very interesting two things- She said no! I know she's very much on your side which is interesting that you know this SNOT agrees with you But the reporter here is saying, oh no this is by definition fact science and income level. And so I don't know where she's getting that because I don't have that information but But then Warren also said, if you send your kid to college and I did not complete my college education. So I am already strike against me here but it continues for a couple more seconds. But you're not willing to say that they are? Because actually I disagree with that. It is one way of measuring... You can't pass by someone who's making $1 million in the middle class! Oh well wait a minute, I'll do it the other way. How about somebody

1:07:27 who's taught school for 10 years and takes off a year to go back to graduate school and has an income of only $4,000 in the year that she is not teaching. Would you say she fell out of the middle class? I wouldn't! So it's a whole lot of characteristics that define the middle class. It sounds like a little dodge. No but its not a dodge its question who your working for That's the answer...it's who you're working for That I think is the best answer that I've heard so far. If you're working for the noodles guy, lower class! Lower class if you work in... So by definition we work for ourselves regardless of income or lack thereof even though I get to hitch a ride on your education

1:08:22 I don't think education is a function of this thing. Bill Gates never graduated from, would you call him lower class? I don't think so. No, but he has more than the $100 million dollars. Steve Jobs is dead class and it doesn't count. It's just a class It's a fascinating thing. I think whenever you see a politician talking about the middle class, just say excuse me could you please define the middle class? No one can do it! I don't think anyone can actually define the middle class. Well they don't want to bring in what they should do which is bring in Marx and just say it's the bourgeoisie

1:08:58 which is essentially what Elizabeth Warren thinks and that's why she talked about the bourgeoisie being the middle class, which has nothing to do with income. And then the people that drop out may be the petite bourgeoisie, which is a lower-middle class because you never go into the lower classes, which is different And I think it's essentially just a Marxist definition that these people are trying to push at us. It is one of those things, the way I see it as something...I kind of know when I see it. Like porn! I got it! Yeah, the snot class

1:09:37 When we talk about the elites and the middle, we don't talk about the middle class but when you talk about these people that have put themselves above it all I think you can see it. You can't necessarily define it It's like art not to be corny about it but its kind of like that or I know porn when I see it And I can judge good porn when I see it But I think that is extremely interesting this has thrown out so much I'd like the question And I just like it. I really, really like it! This is something... Whenever some douchebag at work is talking some douche stuff Just ask them to define the middle class and step back Buzzkill Jr says there's a good definition in the Britannica but I can't find it He sent me a link Hold on a second because you know I actually participate in the back channel here Okay Middle Class Here we go Very interesting Association with Aristocracy

1:10:38 from 1500 to the present as feudalism gradually gave way new classes of citizens arose in England, the appearance of a powerful mercantile and business community was reflected in the growth of the middle classes from which was continually recruited a new nobility and gentry. In turn owing to the English rule of inheritance by primogeniture... what does that mean? Primigenitor? Whatever. Okay blah blah industrial revolution The nature of work shifted For prior property classes as well. This is my high school education in the property class of middle-class people not only factory owners but also merchants and professionals began to trumpet a new work ethic according to this ethic, work was the basic human good he who worked was meritorious and should prosper He who suffered did so because he did not work stupid slave I don't listen for frivolity were officially frowned upon

1:11:38 post-World War II. What? Right, and we still mock the middle class members, mock the Eurotrash, what are the rest of... The trustafarians! You know these kids who got nothing but a bunch of money and they got rasta hair and they hang out in Aspen and don't do anything but spend money or the crazy Russians So I think just reading through this is a good document by the way So theatrical productions, interesting if you look at all these different definitions. Underlying the theatrical developments of the 19th century in many cases inspiring them were the social upheavals that followed the French Revolution throughout Europe The middle class took over the theaters and affected changes in repertoire style and decorum

1:12:22 I'm starting to think that middle class is a bunch of arrogant elitist A-holes. Really, I think we are just... That's all you got from here to there! We're lower class! That was pretty good. Take a left. Yeah unless your a mercantile, unless your a merchant, unless you run a factory, unless you own the theater then you're lower class. United Kingdom, the term middle-class began to be used more frequently in social and political debate so too were working class and classes so if you work for a living your lower class well there used to be something could consider to be though the working class many of whom my father was in the working class he was a foreman and electrician and worked at steel fabrication place

1:13:20 he would always brag about the fact that he made a lot more money than the white collar workers did. But wait, but wait this is incorrect according to the president's definition he sent you to college therefore his middle class right? Right but... Well, that's the problem because if you're talking about with the merchants being one thing and then the workers being something else when they're working class makes more than a merchant class. I mean this is just top of this reverse situations almost occurs a lot in professional sports. You got a guy who is playing some game and he's making five million dollars or more some of these soccer players for example a year maybe 10 million, 10 million a year. And none of his managers the people that are would be in the middle class or even sometimes the owners of the teams with that investment make that much money right? But you so have this kind of weird thing where you have the lower-class making more money than I could then a class that's higher than they are there or you take a look at

1:14:22 the British upper class which will if you talk to them or hang out with them at all they'll tell you that the entire class in Britain, that upper-class is all broke. They got no money. Right yeah exactly. Members of clubs you can't get in right? They get free stuff. They have all these things where there are beneficial for them even though their they had no money so it's not a money thing apparently It's something else and I don't know...it reminds me but I think Kind of a self-induced slavery amongst... Well, you know what? I have to agree. You know it when you see it which is totally bogative. You can't just be talking about things like oh I knew it when I'll see it Maybe the post World War II Europe definition will help us The benefits for ordinary Europeans took many forms

1:15:15 There was easier access to higher education and cheaper mass travel. There was more varied food, there was better health preserved by better medicine, there were new synthetic materials, more plentiful housing and wider automobile ownership. There were stereophonic recordings color television high fidelity audio equipment unlike Skype." Are you back with me? Yeah I'm here You cut out for a second So I think the middle class post-World War II Europe definition is the best. Basically, mass travel, synthetic materials, stereophonic recordings, color television, high fidelity audio equipment... I think you're nailing it! Yeah this is more varied food... HD! If you have an HD television, you are middle class. There ya go. Done

1:16:09 Done yeah, the upper class wouldn't have to tell her to be hanging out with Spielberg. No they're in the theater Yeah, I got no time for any of this bullcrap well Essentially we've created a class of people that have turned themselves into wage slaves and that's that is the middle-class Yeah, okay? They were essentially slaves they can't Really survive without a job mm-hmm Well there you go Which brings us of course to a clip that we'll play in a little while I hope. The slave clip. I'm not playing no slave clip, not yet... Not yet? When you're in the mood play it. Yeah okay So what else ya got? Um... I guess you got that off your chest Well I think its a very good conversation to have

1:17:00 Yeah I agree. The definition is very nebulous let's put it that way We're not sitting here like CNN saying, it's clearly an income level! You know? I'm not saying that as fact like the idiot from CNN you know where has this conversation actually taken place Have you seen... Only on the No Agenda Show. Thank you, thank you. Especially into this depth! This level of depth Yes which might have been a little too deep honestly? I was interesting i wasn't i would have cut it off. I know which is what you do so here we go

1:17:39 I'm watching a bunch of stuff on C-SPAN when i'm not watching the Calgary sling box that one of our producers so kindly gave us to look at. Which is by the way quite interesting, just watching Canadian news constantly is good! Anyway they had a bunch of stuff going on about security. They had a big security forum with a bunch of bullcrap artists... unbelievable bull crap at the security conference but then also they had a little roundtable of journalists with people discussing again computer security and this hummer comes on. They have this one guy who's pretty interesting, but he's kind of monotone I do have a clip from him that's that I've never heard of this information before than another guy and then this monotone woman comes on whose name

1:18:28 I put this name down. Anyway, she writes for Politico so that's kind of what you give them. Really? Hey can i just say something about this for one moment about Politico and all these blogs that have all these reporters that apparently are making money they've got to be taking money from things other than advertising You know what I mean? Don't you get that feeling, don't you feel like there's just no way that these blogs can be making enough money to support all of these journalists who are clearly in the upper middle class. They get to sit on panels and forums and do all this stuff. Don't you think they're on the take somewhere, that smells bad?

1:19:05 There's something that doesn't make a lot of sense, I agree with you. But they're funded by venture capitalists and hoping to turn the company around this woman is Eliza Frigman which kind of the way... And when she talks she's very animated but she's like an animated Hummer. Tell me that just she's not a classic Hummer? For Cliff Stern. Is it Hummer of the Month? Is that...? Hummer or The Month? Correct on the Energy & Commerce Committee is that right? So he is taking over the position that Mary Bono Mack had on the Commerce, Manufacturing and Trade Subcommittee. And Marsha Blackburn in terms of new leadership position is going to be the vice chair of the Full Energy and Commerce Committee so it'll be interesting to see

1:19:54 how and whether she tries to assert her authority in that new rule. She has actually told me that she's interested in tackling something related to piracy, but I would agree with Brendan that it is very unlikely there will be a new government. A broader more important point of this discussion is the ghost of the SOPA-PEBA revolt haunts this Congress now and all members are extremely wary Trying to enact law with technology they perhaps don't have an expertise on and don't understand all the ramifications Okay, okay. What was her name again? Please I need to look something very important. I leave look something up what's her name Liza Liza Frigman lies it lies there with a Z Liza yeah, Eliza Eliza Frigman

1:20:45 Does she have a Wikipedia entry? I think it's Krigman. Oh, Krigman! Yes it is Krigman because she must be single. I think when the prodigy wrote Smack My Bitch Up he had probably just met her My goodness, I mean can you just imagine like and this is the conversation about taking the trash out it could have been? I don't know what the hell she just said. I know it's ridiculous. She dropped a lot of names And she's kind of cute unfortunately

1:21:27 Well, when you see her in animation form she's not as cute anymore. Animation form? I don't see a... She doesn't have a Wikipedia entry. No, she just another political writer. I have no idea what she does But anyway, that was the Hummer. It wasn't as bad... I have to give this... There's a couple of clips from a guy who is... One of the things is... I think the main one here is WowBSR. Let me set it up. This was a big meeting and this guy is... Let's see if we can find his name here.

1:22:05 Think yeah this guy Rafael Rojo Rojo Zinsky, and he's from the SEC dev group CEO And he's like an expert Consultant on security issues brother You know these guys get one good gig they give you get a credit somewhere, and you're set for life Sec Dev and you want to hear now. I want you to listen to this carefully when everyone out there listened this carefully this guy says absolutely nothing in the most convoluted way I've ever heard it's a jaw-dropper. One thing that I would say, I think the enduring lesson that comes out of Stuxnet and Olympic Games is that it proved once and for all you can weaponize cyberspace and treat it as if it was any other weapons platform meaning there is propagator code

1:22:56 that will deliver a code which is finely targeted to affect only one certain place onto target. I think it's nonsense to talk about cyber security without thinking about it in terms of offense and defense when we train our infanteers and send them on peacekeeping missions they're not going to be moving backwards, they are trained in advance the contact as well as defensive We need to be thinking in terms of cyber in exactly the same kind way because cyber weapons are largely defined in terms of legal liability what you're talking about who they affect what they affect and because code gives us the ability to actually make that quite precise again Olympic Games I think proves that. I think it's a reality that we have to get over. Oh man! I can't wait you know, because when you weaponize cyberspace doesn't mean whether your going forward or backward i mean when you have Olympic Games or Stuxnet there is absolutely no difference whatsoever when the sec dev goes into the battlefield which is completely in your mind's eye

1:23:53 It's a reality we have to get over. Fact! What does that mean? He used the word in there, he said infanteers. I didn't hear that. Infanteers? Yeah he said when our infanteers go into the field Now is he talking about child labor? Wait a minute, wait a minute. Let me hear this. Advanced to contact as well as defensive we need to be thinking in terms of cyber in exactly the same kind of way because Cyber weapons are largely defiant and was it before that must have been before no I think you and how's the cyber weapon defiant hold on frontiers incentive here it is there it is there is always back up a sec defense when we train our infant tears and send them on peacekeeping missions infantry

1:24:41 Wow! When we train our infanteers and send them on peacekeeping, what does that mean? Wow. Let's look at the Book of Knowledge to see if the word even exists. Okay let me hit the jingle then. Infanteers. Remember that wasn't there a thing... Oh my god it's an actual word oh my god infanteers wow It is plural form of infantere How do you feel now Well here it is a soldier employed in any infantry role an Infantryman that shows you the Highlanders the Sovereign's Pipers. No one uses this word It's a UK usage English people in the upper middle class use that word John and they've got a job J O B MF That's why I think here this guy's not British UK English, it says right here

1:25:41 Okay, well here's let me give you one more. I gotta do this one then since you enjoyed that guy so much There's a second clip of him wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wasn't there a Wasn't there a? Generator online where you could get all this web web economy bullcrap yeah There was it used to be one of those and they do is also something like if there's also a bingo game What was the name of that thing? Hold on. Grow intuitive functionalities, there you go I found one. Integrate visionary convergence engineer integrated web services by repurposing compelling e-business to morph visionary web services while optimizing integrated bandwidth to expedite proactive E markets That my friend is how you empower killer web readiness

1:26:33 Yeah, how good was that? Makes nothing but sense. This is the best podcast in the universe! Here's the guy, he is answering a question here by the way and he never answers to questions or even comes close but this one here it will blow your mind. This is the amazing BSer attribution question. By the way when someone... I'm gonna push back on you. Which if you don't see as that big of challenge I guess So I bought a laptop with cash and I created malware, and I stripped all the identifiers out of it. And then I traveled to a foreign city and went into an internet cafe with unsecure Wi-Fi. And launched my malware and erased my disk and dumped that computer in a dumpster

1:27:34 That malware in that one computer could be enough to bring down the critical infrastructure of a city. Could you track me down? Did people pay money to go this conference? I mean seriously, I'd be like BOOM! Get off the stage, you infanteer! Let me answer your question by actually tying into something that the General was talking about. I think we forget that times of conflict are generally a great catalyst for technological and organizational advancement We saw the emergence of concepts of air-land battle coming out of World War 1 developing through World War 2 through the Cold War era. We had Teflon as consequence in the space age

1:28:14 Yes, so was Tang. I think the main innovation coming out of the last 10 years of the global war on terror has been a revolution in the way that we apply intelligence and warfare. Lieutenant General Michael Flynn currently the head of the DIA but previously director for intelligence with JSOC in Afghanistan and Iraq said and I think quite presciently in the 21st century in the cyber era Intelligence and information are maneuvering fire. The ability to be able to generate data from vast distributed services, to aggregate it, to correlate it, to share it effectively, create actionable items is a huge advancement which was responsible for example the ability to interdict IED networks in Iraq before they were able to form. Okay! I'm gonna shoot myself now

1:29:03 The ability to interdict IED networks in Iraq? Seriously, dude. and analytical systems is exactly what would solve the problem of attribution. I'm sorry, because when you re-intermediate open source portals your engineering intuitive platforms that maximize impactful models and strategize cross media eyeballs in no way can you exploit cross platform interfaces by integrating sticky schemas that evolve one to one infrastructure it has to be

1:29:40 a central point of streamlining one-to-one systems where you aggregate intuitive infrastructures. Perfect! Thank you. You and this guy should... I should be on the desk. What website is that? Wait, what do you mean website? That's just me man. That's just me being awesome. Well, you are awesome. What website is that?! So this woman that's headlining... No, no don't make me listen to more. You can't tell me... No I'm not, no more of that guy! Okay please. This one here is actually something I want to comment on by the way so just to give you a feel and sense of this since the Canadians wanted us do much more with their Canadian stuff This is the Halifax International Security Forum

1:30:26 Right, kind of a feeling for the international nature of this event with this bullcrapper and this woman. But she makes an interesting question – The cyber attack on the grid thing that she brings up I just want to deconstruct it. It's a question she asks like that other dumb question about the computer that's thrown in the dumper with my malware, but your malware has your malware doing? See my pants still haven't pulled out by malware and by the way this woman is Jean Mio somewhere else. She's some company I never heard of anyway

1:31:04 And by the way, she looks... you know there's a certain look of women that are uh... Now what's her name? Give me her name properly now. Now I gotta look at her! G-E-A-N-N-E I think it's M-E-O R-E-I-P or something like that. Morioep Mario Mere or something. I don't know that's what it wrote it now at me service look for the company me serve you find it me serve Yeah, me serves m e s e r ve yeah me serve yeah? I think she's a George Washington University as a serve bumper and Hughes oh

1:31:43 No, I don't know what. She's at George Washington University and when you look at her spook. Yeah thank well thanks so i have nothing to look at thanks. I'm sorry help the best I can helpful helpful okay no so this is the kind of bogative question that you're gonna that has here's what bothers me you go you hear these things and you have someone who's the narrator or the person at the podium that's asking questions and within the question itself there is like bad information, false information, false assumptions. And it's all thrown in as fact, as part of a question. I think it is very subtle form of brainwashing and see if you can find a few items on here that actually says them they're just not possibly true. I want to have little fun here and lay out scenario and see how our panelists would deal with this Let say there are coordinated cyber attacks on Canada's power grid. Oh! Oh! Hold up, I'm hyperventilating

1:32:41 Man we have such a future in the conference business I'm telling you can you imagine if we dressed up and we had our suits on and everything And we and we hand we talk like, you know Like I was just talking a minute ago. And we just threw this stuff out low their minds Oh my god, and then we have uncle Don just do an appearance with keynote Keynote by Donald Greg awesome good awesome Generators are destroyed the grid comes down People do not have gas. People cannot use their ATM machines The power loss has spread to the United States because of the way the grid is constructed Transportation comes largely to a halt Financial institutions are unable to do what they do You've got a big problem on your hand Minister Tavis, let me ask you Who's to blame for this attack? People have been warning about the vulnerability of the grid

1:33:41 for almost a decade. lines and the Power lines are somehow interconnected. I just and then wait a minute in my fair one Transportation will come largely to a halt yes, what how listen? I know all I know all I know about whatever she just said I egg I cannot wait for the day because I'll be like Baby we are rockin it and then you'll be like oh

1:34:22 We'll be on the CW baby, on the USB and the SSB. Hee hee! Anyway that's my little thing I just thought it was... Wow. That was just- I ended up watching this piece of crap No no no, I applaud you for it because that actually made me feel really really happy That I know when all donations come to a screeching halt eventually or one of us dies and if its not me then I know I still have a future as a cyborg On The CW? Exactly. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda! Imagine all the people who could do that... Oh yeah, that'd be fab!

1:35:04 Hey man, do we want to play that clip before we do our shortlist here? The slave thing. We got a short list there I thought this was an interesting clip This was on Book TV which is a C-SPAN product and the guy wrote about... And by the way it's not an outstanding product like our show Nine times out of ten Book TV is atrocious 99% of them are incredibly boring but Yeah, you're right. What am I thinking? Anyway so this was a little segment on the race riots of 1834 and how Francis Scott Key apparently was this horrible racist. You mean the guy who wrote Star Spangled Banner? Apparently yeah Really?! He was a racist? The worst apparently And this was a show on television? Great

1:35:56 So anyway, so this guy's giving a lecture about his book and he has this one anecdote and I said to myself holy crap Things really haven't changed that much. In fact, a lot of you know since we refer to our a lot of our listeners as slaves I'm thinking wow this is interesting because this guy would probably be a list this guy This guy in Washington DC the slave would probably be a no agenda listener if you were a black person in Virginia and you got your freedom You had to leave the state within a year by law or you could be sold back into slavery And so those people, once they got there... They weren't going to go to Boston or New York even though there was no slavery in those places. But I mean first of all Philadelphia was a four-five day ride

1:36:37 at best. And then it's an alien culture, it's not a southern culture. So the blacks once they got their freedom they went to the district and they flocked into districts when there were jobs there was opportunity there slavery was legal there but you know that system of slavery in Washington again this is a big surprise me you know this was not plantation slavery Mrs Thornton had a guy who served who she owned a man named George Plant and he was her driver, and he was kind of the jack-of-all trades who kept the house up and fixed the wagons and did all that. Well George Plant had a wife who was free, she lived in Georgetown, and he had four kids, they were free! And he would go home at night so then in the morning... So he was a slave who commuted

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1:52:09 Yeah, really critical because this you know with the beginning of the new year we know the New Year is always very very slow. I will tell you that... You don't have to feel sorry for me but screw it! Feel sorry for me This whole thing this being stuck here has cost Miss Mickey and I $15,000 She will be driving in the Range Rover for another year for sure That was like the car saving up for a car gone Yeah, yeah. Anyway you don't have to feel sorry for me whatever it's fine I just feel sorry for ya know but...I mean i like Amsterdam as much as the next guy but when I go over there I'm there for four days max You know get a bunch of stuff done and look around take a lot of photos It is very photogenic place And then hit one museum or two There always a museum to check out Then leave or have good dinner somewhere There are couple good places

1:53:04 Right. Well, people have written to me many times over and said that they feel that the in-exileness has improved the show which worries me to a high level! Stay there! It really bothers me No, I think it's true. Now what happens? I think every time we have something like this the show just gets a little more international or you have these and that you know...I think people like your anecdotes. I think they like them when you talk about the farmers market in Austin and some of these crazy people you've run into is just but i think that we start to show off with a lot of personal anecdotes and I think you tell a great tale And your stories about Amsterdam are always kind of like wow! What?! Right Which is always what you want people to think when they go WHAT!?

1:53:50 What? And in fact there are tens of people around going, what?! So when I get back to Austin now I have to continue my personal anecdotes but then i have to get into trouble after the... You know, I don't think that's necessary. A good person you could just get out of the house more That's what i think where people are appreciating right? I love uh up in your adobe you know there in austin I love the dutch contingent in the chat room Hey leave the netherlands alone if you can't handle it get out The one guy no we got a couple We got a couple I look like adam is still at his millionaire spending level Oh yeah Yeah right

1:54:36 Wow, hey Spree! Blow me. My goodness... Alright whatever You know what? Just... Fine Best podcast in the universe. Go ahead and bitch at me all you want, it's fine. Top it! Don't top me... Please don't top me Hillary Clinton Anyway if you wanna support The Best Podcast In The Universe then you certainly can do that at devorak.org slash n a So we do not have any birthdays today interestingly enough Yeah Hold on a second maybe let me see whose birthday is on Facebook

1:55:13 Think we have a bunch of doesn't face night. Tell me whose birthday every do isn't suppose Randy Roberts's birthday is today remember Randy Roberts no he was Randy Roberts, maybe this is different Randy Roberts No wasn't you like the crazy guy on? Whoa yeah, these again Randy Roberts No nice. I don't know who Randy Robert. He was a producer oh Randy Roberts, I don't know who he is doesn't know Robert whatever whatever Yes we do have actually We have so we're gonna do anonymous China instead of Xingjiang right because that's not his real name It's gonna be anonymous. China Ben Blondin who? I think you see We had this conversation on Thursday

1:56:06 that his accounting was off, but we had not calculated the 120 cash he had given on the Hot Pockets Tour. So he is receiving his well-deserved knighthood as of today and we have a special knighting one of the two if you'll recall knighthood's that were completely financed by the Baron of Belgium and France Baron Steven Pelsmacher's. Yeah, as we like to call him Baron Von Pelsmacher's He gave away three so we're given a two didn't we already do one? I thought we already Depleted one. I don't know that we did okay Well, I think there's I think you're still OEM 1 Okay So this is at least one of the the three that the baron gave away and we're giving that to someone who has worked very very hard particularly in 2012 worked his ass off and even today

1:56:56 was kicking ass on the stream. We had a power cut at the data center which he manages all by himself, VoidZero will become... I was thinking of it we'll call him the 19-inch knight i thought that'd be kind of cool since uh yeah he has 19 inch racks all the time. He's 19 inches what? Oh, racks. Racks! Yeah those are the professional size racks yeah correct I thought you meant something else well that's exactly why i came up with it so if you can get your uh your sword then we'll go all right Void Zero Anonymous China and Ben Blondlin please come forward as I hereby am very proud to pronounce thee knight of the Noah General Roundtable and you will hear by me void zero the 19 inch night

1:57:42 And you'll be receiving one of those handsome, handsome night pins which um Are they really handsome? Have we designed them yet? Oh, that's a good point. What I'd like to do is throw out an open RFP An RFP! Hold on a second We would like to recontextualize the holistic action items of our RFP To aggregate robust networks into our real-time paradigms So for any...we have a lot artists and they listen to this show And they're looking for little gimmicks

1:58:41 To look around and we'll pick one, if somebody wants to design this thing. We want to design a night pin that... And look at the Canadian ones and look at other pins of them. The high end pins the ones that like the Canadians when they give their nights they put a ribbon around but also give him this pin and get to wear the pin and you can see other people You're gonna have to wear the pin all the time by now. We will wear pins if you got a jacket. And so, you wear the pin and find other knights out of the blue. Oh my goodness! You're like a knight with no agenda. You have no agenda. You have no agenda. No agenda. Oh my goodness! Hey are you a knight on that round table? Shhh shh shhh shhh shhh. Right. But we need to design. So let's... We're opening up the bidding for designs anyone who wants to contribute an idea designing any such thing. The logo guy for example that makes their logos

1:59:31 He might come over the five minute logo guy make a ten-minute pin logo. I don't know whatever anyway, just wanted to say that No, I think it's a few months before anybody gets a pin because we have no design. So but look at it It took two years before he sent out the first ring so okay well Okay, but now we're ahead of the game We're ahead of our typical schedule is yeah right? We would have kept forgetting to ask for the designs for probably six months and to support the program one more time vorac org slash Hey Wow yo dude um So something came across my desk

2:00:08 which is rounded from Ikea and um, and i was trying to figure it out why all of a sudden this. And then I started to combine a couple things uh including a uh an amendment to an executive order which I didn't even know was possible but apparently it is oh that's interesting yeah yeah well you know we have producer Chad in Colorado Yeah, and he's like a federal register nut. Yeah, now he is great! He also is actually an EMT. He saves lives but he should be a writer because he's the one that sent us the Remember The Toilet Roll Story?

2:00:51 Yeah, great story. The full-on public service announcement from the Navy is in the show notes for seven Six dot na shown o's calm, but here is the Aaron Burnett story where this was out front and it just filled with memes and as I was listening to this and I and I Kind of figured out what's going on because I think its promotion essentially And it is all under the heading the war on bath salts

2:01:34 And now we go to the demonic dangers of... Sorry, I'm... Demonic dangers! The demonic... This is a news program. The demonic dangers of bath salts! Bath salts are horrible story here because there's a dramatic public service announcement by the American Navy warning about the dangerous of this designer drug. By the way this public service announcement is awesome I mean, the special effects are really quite good. But then wait for the Navy official to come in at the end...I just have a little bit of all this and you'll hear that there's an obvious...there was something being set up and I think Chad found it." The hope is that sailors will be deterred from turning to bath salts to get high. Our Pentagon correspondent Chris Lawrence is out front

2:02:19 It's a shocking video in which an actor plays an American sailor high on bath salts. He sees other sailors as demons, punches his girlfriend... It gets wheeled into the ER, pinned down by paramedics. Bath salts not only will jack up your family... This is the guy from the Navy John! Bath salts will not only Jack-up your fami.. They'll Jack you up man! This is like an official from the Navy speaking! Jack Up In your career they'll jack up your mind and body too Who does this? Who in the Navy approved this?!

2:03:00 It'll jack up your career, man. The Navy is increasing efforts to warn sailors after military doctors started seeing more cases These bath salts don't have anything to do with therapy or the salts you use at home What we're talking about here are very potent synthetic drugs that are probably synthesized somewhere overseas We think possibly China Dr Alex Gerard has seen dozens of cases firsthand People act very primal primal instincts, animalistic behavior. He's seen users who think they have superhuman strength and are almost impossible to subdue. While he was high on bath salts... Okay so I had a little bad edit there but now listen very carefully to what they're saying at the end of this report The Naval Academy kicked out 16 midshipmen for using another synthetic drug spice The military started random testing for synthetics last year but it's hard to keep up with the science

2:03:56 But all the drug dealers, the chemists have to do is manipulate the molecule ever so slightly. You have a new drug and new chemical that kind of flies under the radar." In fact since the US government banned the two main chemicals that were used in bath salts another chemical called Nafurone started showing up and it's 10 times as potent as cocaine Now this of course is obviously a commercial for the new stuff. Yeah, no this is totally what it is. Nafarone is what its called. Nafarone there's a book of knowledge entry but whats interesting on Friday just before this report and in this video obviously was made along time ago you know and and it was rushed out No one actually took that time to I mean you can't have a guy say hey man get jacked up that's not how the Navy operates

2:04:48 And on Friday, I read from the Federal Register as trapped by Chad. It's an addendum. On July 9th 2012 the President signed into law the Synthetic Drug Abuse Prevention Act of 2012 SDAPA amends the Controlled Substances Act by placing 26 substances in Schedule 1. So what is happening here is the president had the Synthetic Drug Abuse Prevention Act of 2012 and now it's being amended with 26 new substances And as a part of this amendment, it has the Schedule 1 classification of methadrone MDPV and... Hello darling. ...and then some synthetic cannabinoids So I believe, oh and there's one more, methylone But i believe that this came out

2:05:52 These new drugs have been, or these substances have been classified as a schedule one drug so equal to heroin and that's why they I guess now promote the new thing which has just been released because now MDPV is a schedule one it's equal to heroin. And now they're out there immediately with this really shoddy thing can i have the tea back honey? I'm still drinking that promoting the don't empty that that has whiskey in my back For his back. For my what honey? Yeah, exactly where I had it yeah So NASA drone is clearly they're promoting this and it's 10 times as... Yeah we gotta get the... give this an alert Ladies and gentlemen we have a drug alert all the drugs have been illegal We have a new drug that is legal for now

2:06:44 It's exactly what that was. The timing is unbelievable! I agree, it's totally it and by the way the bull crap about China... Yeah... You just dropped that little bomb in there. No no, it's horrible July 26 2012 DEA raids synthetic pot and bath salts manufacturers and sellers And this was done in 90 cities They're making this stuff in the US of A Of course There's nothing coming from CHINA Chiners please Please And then we have the new segment, John. Bogative bills! These are new bills introduced into legislation or into the legislative process and I just want to run them down for you. I'll just make a little selection of ones that I think will be interesting not to discuss but just to understand what your US government is doing We have HR 77. We start over by this. Did you know that each year they start with numbers all new?

2:07:42 Yeah, yeah. I didn't know that. Well otherwise it'd be in the millions of where they're going. Okay HR 77 to repeal the legal tender laws to prohibit taxation on certain coins and bullion and to repeal superfluous sections related to coinage so that's some gold nut obviously trying to do a Ron Paul on the gold coins so that'll go nowhere. HR 74 to provide for the collection Which will be DNA, obviously. HR 125 to provide... Venezuela! Yeah, to provide for congressional oversight of United States agreements with the government of Afghanistan I thought that was interesting do we not have congressional oversight with the agreements with the government of Afghanistan? I didn't know any of this No apparently not. I thought Obama administration was the most transparent in the universe

2:08:41 But apparently we don't have oversight. HR 118, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to encourage teachers to pursue teaching science technology engineering and math subjects at elementary and secondary schools There's no text available on that one which I find unfortunate because i'd like to know how they're going... what are they gonna do? Give you a tax break if you teach math? What do you think? This is news to me And then someone's of course trying to repeal the mandate that individuals purchase health insurance. That's HR 105, I wonder who put that in? Let's see does it say here doesn't say... That would be a Ron Paul thing but he's not in there anymore right he's out uh He's not out and yeah I guess he's out as well yeah but that just as like next week or something Okay this is Scott Garrett of New Jersey Republican

2:09:44 And then finally, HR 75 to end membership of the United States in the United Nations. That's a classic! Good luck with that I think that is very funny. I love it when they do stuff like that. That tickles me So those are your bogative bills and that is your US government at work This is stuff they work on This bull crap, this is such total bull crap and this has cropped up. I've heard it now two years running the trillion dollar coin bull crap you've heard of this?

2:10:22 Yeah, we were talking about it. Jay said buzzkill jr.. Brought it up at dinner saying you know thinking that was sounds more like a plot to achieve movie the What's the one with Clooney and those guys that keep robbing the same like? Oceans 29 or so oceans yeah, yeah, which is 30 hey We're gonna get them trillion dollar coin steal the trillion dollar coin well now I've been reading this trillion dollar coin theory for years It's like So, we can just issue a trillion dollar coin and now it's actual news. So while they debate over a debate and raise headlong into the debt ceiling is there a magic bullet to solve the crisis?

2:11:02 Try a magic coin. It's a magic coin, John! Some economists, legal scholars and now even a congressman are suggesting that a one trillion dollar platinum coin could be minted and the government could use that to pay the debt avoid defaults and preempt the debt ceiling crisis Let's understand how it works Democratic Congressman Gerald Nadler of New York says, I'm being absolutely serious. It sounds silly but it's absolutely legal. I spoke to economist Joe Gagnon Why do you think it is a good idea right now? Well...I think its better than government shutdowns Its better than defaulting on the debt I mean its better then bad alternatives And technically it does appear to be legal Here's how

2:11:43 The US government can print new money, but under law there's a limit to how much paper money can be in circulation at any one time. There are also rules that at least limit the denominations that gold silver and copper coins can be but there is no limit on platinum coins! The president can issue a platinum coin in any denomination Treasury can mint it and then just print on it 1 trillion dollars. The President can then order that coin to be deposited at the Federal Reserve Then says Gagnon and the Fed would credit the Treasury's account. And so when the Treasury writes checks to pay people, The federal cash them

2:12:21 I love this because when you introduce this trillion dollar coin, which by the way they have a great rendering of it. It has Obama's head on it and its pretty funny! So when you have this trillion dollar coin, it tricks people into believing that this is real. That all this money is minting coins like this is real money And the slaves, you know... The human resources just fall for this. It's like the whole thing is... Money is basically just a joke! The whole idea is just a concept and belief system and now they're actually propagating this on news! Here's the funny part about this

2:13:04 The, uh... This is actually a April 5th which was my birthday by the way. April 5th if anyone wants to get something for me 1998, 1998 the 20th episode of the 9th season of the animated television series The Simpsons Oh no Has this exact plot Wait a minute wait a minute let's make it... The episodes these homers said look up the trouble with trillions that's the name of it The episode sees Homer being sent by the this is how dumb people are. Our Congress sees Homer's being sent by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to try to obtain a trillion dollar bill that Montgomery Burns failed to deliver to Europe during the postwar era and it goes again and hilarity ensues really there you have which when was it?

2:13:56 This is some Puritan press that did this on April 5th. Is this the one? Is this the episode? No, that's not it... I'm looking for it! I wish I could find that one Apparently Harry Truman, in the story printed a one trillion dollar bill with his photo on it. Ah? Photo same photo Obama Same fractal to help reconstruct post-war Europe He handed the bill over to Montgomery Burns to transport to the Europeans However, the money never arrived and the FBI suspects Burns still has the money Well this was another plot that

2:14:46 Oh wow, what was that about the like 60 trillion dollars Ken... oh my god now I'm spacing on it. It was money that Reagan had... Oh right this crazy... Ken Awada? What was that? We did this like four years ago on the show! What was that again?! We had uncovered this crazy cockamamie story about all these There's money that is put in a balance and it's part of some collection that has been going on all along. All you have to do is tap into it, we pay off everything and we're good to go." I remember that! What was that called again? This pops up from time-to-time. It's the old crap that were presented with on a weekly basis. Someone in the chat room will know... It was the Ken Awada wasn't that it?

2:15:35 I don't remember we have to say so whatever want a want a want a want a want a thing was can't know right right one night No, wasn't it Wanta? Let me just see Wanta. Maybe it wasn't Ken the want to want fund trillions Leo Wanta there you go leo Wanta in the book of knowledge The Wanta funds there you go twenty seven point five trillion dollars in a fund that apparently is just sitting there waiting for us to tap into and we can pay everything off. Leo Wanta, you should look at him, you should look into that. Let's research that again. It was part of the CIA plot to destabilize the Soviet economy in 1990. Wanta apparently was a CIA operative

2:16:29 The only thing standing in the way of life and death for Ambassador Leo Wont, I guess he was an ambassador too? Yes he was. He was. That's astonishing to me that you'd have an ambassador who is in the CIA. Leo Wont is still around though right? Yeah! He gave us an interview on January 10th 2010 on StewWebNewsWithViews.com Who is Leo Wanta blah blah blah. Anyway, the people who looked this up we talked about this before it's

2:17:07 more bull crap that's out there. I wish it were true, but you know... Yeah! It'd be great! They want to give us the money oars So now that this is in the mainstream though this trillion dollar coin what can No Agenda listeners and producers do when some dumb slave who they typically work with or commute with or live with says why don't we just mint a trillion-dollar coin? What can they say They can punch him in the mouth. Okay, just cold cock the guy! Shut up!

2:17:48 OK, right. I don't know what they can say. Don't say anything is roll their eyes and walk away. All right. So I've got the last bit of I'm sorry you want to do something? No no you got it where we wrapping yet now not quite not quite. I got a little bit of just going back to I got a little bit of a ditty. Okay well you gotta did I get a dittie tell me what this is. And I'd like to know what this is. It's only gonna come in on one channel and I am fooling around on the European side satellite dish which I lost access to by the way. So, Calgary here I come! And we by the way sent...I want thank people who also offered some New York based sling boxes but still need one in Australia What is Radio Liberty? Okay it's only..is a can i do anything by uh... Just play it Is just one channel only you said Yeah yeah This is radio free Europe Radio Liberty Praha

2:18:44 This is Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty Praha. Praha? This is Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty Praha What does he sing at the end? Praha? Praha! Praha? P-R-A-H-A I think Where's Praha? I don't know Is it maybe Prague? Is that how you pronounce Prague if your Czechoslovakian? Praha Is that possible? Yes, Prague. Yeah Praha you pronounce it Prague Praha So that's radio free Europe Radio Liberty Radio Liberty Radio Liberty but their the programming is rather sparse yes That is the program Just keeping the channel open funny radio Praha Praha Praha You know I bet you could walk around the streets anywhere in the world except for Czechoslovakia or the Czech Republic and

2:19:38 Say have you ever heard of Praha and no one would know right? It's one of those things I would agree. So the No agenda listeners, no. Yeah sure they do remember the The crazy the crazy lawyer who is suing Connecticut representing the one eyewitness this six-year old girl of the Sandy Hook shooting Right didn't he back off because he backed all right theory about it, but this guy is being taken very seriously Or let's put it this way He's showing up everywhere and they're in so Bloomberg Is interviewing him now Bloomberg? It's not I don't consider to be a super serious television network But it is a serious outfit. You know serious operation So I think the guy is selling something

2:20:32 Because this guy is clearly a moron. He's just as moronic as everyone else we've seen involved in this entire saga, this entire script and uh... here is a a snippet of him on bloomberg and what comes into play is uh... as he reports it fact in science and obvious that this is where we're going with the with those with the tragedy in sandy hook i've alienated them and i feel bad because i spent my whole life liking them and then liking me but now i know that that they have to they had to take action to stop it again

2:21:10 It's disgusting. Right, and of course it is also... I mean this is your job This what you do as a tort lawyer Yeah and as a Connecticut Rep person Notice he says Connecticut Rep person I guess he's probably a Hollywood California resident as an actor, but so he cuts himself off when he says person. Oh good catch! Good catch! Is this just about the state of Connecticut or are you going to add other defendants here? Well if i can get insurance money from somebody in California who committed a tort here who sent the guy a manual on how to shoot children...you know..I'll go for it Okay now pay attention because what he just said is

2:21:47 If I can get insurance money, and I'm not quite sure how tort lawsuits work because the guy sent someone a manual. But I mean seriously John so we need to be on the lookout for a similar event in California where someone used Adam Lanza's manual Which is probably on his computer or something or posterist cookbook? It's gonna be the how to kill children manual, but here comes the real interesting information no limits in Connecticut. It's not about only protecting the children in Connecticut as far as I'm concerned I'd like to see and I've gotten some clues on this some I've gotten some clues on this he's gotten some clues some remote-controlled cameras with remote controlled

2:22:28 from and you may avoid a disaster. This is not ridiculous, this is the future! It may not be the future this year but what's a one foot long drone cost? I know they don't even cost $1,000 so if you make a high quality one it's 5,000. I mean, come on. He's selling it! Clip of the day. Oh thank you. Hold on...I wasn't even prepared for that. He is selling it man! The guy is selling it! He's selling the drones with a little bit of gas on them.

2:23:24 Yeah, what does a one-foot drone cost? Hey come on John. What is it one foot drone costs $1,000 can't be that rugged eyes one for 5,000 bucks in other words the same thousand dollar one added four thousand dollars with no difference right with a little bit of knockout gas on it Yeah, I guess but is that thing coming toward me? That's go up steps. Oh no the cops they bond there They got cameras on all the time anyway a little bit more to the clip I don't know if why I had more turbo yeah you don't want maniac maniac yeah maniac But the maniac or is he out there sending a message Well probably sending a message so we on the last show we talked about Qatar buying

2:24:09 Al Jazeera. Al Jazeera America, yes correct So there's a thing I was watching the Canadian cable and there is a whole couple of BBC channels that they have in Canada are really more British than they are the ones we get A lot of them...I've never seen any these people or heard any shows But they have a show they're coming out with or something that got out already and they're promoting the crap out of it. This is the promo for which said what the promos names What's With Qatar? but it's about just listen to this and tell me what the hell's going on with Qatar. The richest country per capita in the world wants to turn its petrodollars into global influence

2:24:52 Direct combines programs and features to spotlight one country using the BBC's local knowledge. Boy racers have become such an issue in Qatar that the government is actually instigating race days for them to get it out of their system That's Qatar Direct on BBC World News So it's like a regular show. Why does anybody in England or even Canada, or here for that matter care about a daily or weekly show? I think it's daily about Qatar because they pay for it of course but why nobody goes there to shop they go to Dubai because I mean I don't get the deal with somethings up because we just want my thing is something's up the upper middle class

2:25:41 You know, has to have something to look at and pat themselves on the shoulder about. I guess? I don't know. Just saying sums up that wouldn't just doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah this is actually there's been a lot about everyone's talking about about this Al Jazeera deal all the other news networks like the terrorist Al Jazeera Bin Laden's network yeah you haven't noticed it probably was for like a month till MI6 or whoever took it over It's obviously a propaganda tool. See the only other funny thing I kind of have is They're really pushing all the women now that are in Congress, where at let me rephrase that Nancy Pelosi and And the mainstream media are pushing how many women are now in Congress and they have the Democratic? I think it's the Democratic female coalition or something with a women's coalition or

2:26:40 Yeah, what do you call it? You call a caucus caucus. And there's like 67 of them. Congressional Women's Caucus and Democrat Democrats so the 60s was a lot but it is really pushing the women pushing women so they had a big photo shoot out on the steps of the Capitol with Nancy Pelosi preoccupied with women's issues. Who me? Fully representing their areas by the way, go on now so they have a big photo shoot out on the steps and during a press conference where Nancy Pelosi is meant to answer some questions an actual journalist shows up and asks a very important question yesterday your office put out a photo of all the female members in the house

2:27:23 And then later put out another photo because I guess a few of them weren't there yet and photoshopped in a few of them. Is that what they did? Yes Did you catch that so they released the press picture Of all of the all of the female members shop some more in know that with a couple of them just weren't there So just Photoshop them in yeah Makes sense. That's crazy! And she goes, yeah is that what they did? Who knows I don't even know what Photoshop is...I'm too old, I'm 70 years old and an idiot No that wasn't what she said Does that present an accurate historical record? Yes it was accurate historical record including the Democratic Women of Congress It also is an accurate record but it was freezing cold and our members had been waiting for everyone to arrive

2:28:09 and uh... that's a... Shut up slave! Yes it is an accurate record because it was an accurate record of how cold it was, thats why several had to go inside. We had no time for the photo. Shut up slave! It's a total accurate record! Total total total accurate record! Shut up slave! There you go That's exactly it shut up Slave that commutes Yeah The slave that commutes exactly I see they have one of those. There's a bunch of crap going on in Canada, the Indians are revolting about this called the idle no more some big movement. I have a clip is not this actually not that interesting but there's a big some stink going on. I can't put my finger on it. Iran into a guy doing it you know the way they do these we don't see so much in this country but in Canada they have these pitches for starving children and Africa yeah

2:29:01 But this has a total, Canadian kind of angle to it. Which is kind of like well the boys they don't get enough food to even stand up if they could walk and they don't get enough food to eat if they were alive but their all dead I mean its just this kind of weird way of presenting a sales pitch to get you give money for the starving kids in Africa who are standing right next to this guy This boy has no...this boy can't be fed by his father if he had a father. I just found the whole thing to be very... The presentation, through an American ear was very peculiar. This is Indians revolting in Canada? No no this is Mike Holmes and the orphans Oh I'm sorry okay Hi I am Mike Holmes SOS is the largest orphan focused charity in the world You've heard of SOS haven't you

2:29:56 Yeah, okay cuz we I've never seen heard this sort of pitch because we used to have two in school here When I was growing up so like fifth grade We had the SOS children villages and and you and we always had to collect money for them It's not promoted so much in the USA. Okay? Let me tell you I've seen it firsthand And they know how to make it right Unfortunately, around the world HIV and AIDS has left millions of children orphaned. Even kids as young as 7 and 8 years old are living all alone and barely surviving. Many of them don't. Ten-year-old Ellie and his eight year old brother Moses were found begging for food because they didn't know what else to do These two little boys are all along hungry and scared

2:30:41 They're very vulnerable to all the bad that's here. That means if someone wants to come and take them, they can take them If they want abuse them, they can abuse them They want to take things from them? They'll take it I just can't imagine two children living alone These 2 boys wake up every day and fend for themselves They probably wouldn't be alive today if it wasn't for their neighbors There is no one who makes breakfast before they go to school They don't even go to school No one to wash their clothes. That's funny. It's weird! There is no one to make them breakfast before they go to school, and they don't even go to school! What is that? I don't understand what the nature of this pitch is it's like so awkward... It's not a great pitch. Not by American standards. These Canadians gotta get there they got up the game Hey to wrap this up can I play a little ditty here you remember Dr. Kiki

2:31:43 Dr. Kiki, yeah, Dr. Kiki, Dr. Kiki Stanford Sanford Dr. Kiki this week in science dr. Kiki I heard she's the one who thought that we were idiots for not getting vaccinated with a phony baloney swine flu thing Yeah, I know her she's actually a very pleasant woman. Well, I've never met her but someone have she's just nice I like her. Yes Someone pointed out the I didn't actually drink it honey. I just had like it was just a prop Oh Okay, I did drink a little bit. Pour some in here. Yeah there you go it's my back. Thank you what? Holland yeah Mickey is like Holland she knows i'm an alcoholic now she knows this happening are you an alki too? Sorry didn't want to offend any alcoholics in the audience okay so Dr Kiki

2:32:30 I guess it's, I guess she's not a part of Leo's network anymore or is she? Or... I guess she wasn't making the money wanted or something and that she spun off and she's not working at Leo's operations. Right okay but she still has this week in science and right and she does it with some other dude and its uh kind of low rent sound like I don't know if she's producing her thing so I dunno It's not quite the same as he used to be but it's still Dr Kiki And so they're talking about the controversy over, remember NASA when they said like oh we have something fantastic next week we'll tell you about the Mars mission and it turned out to be nothing. Yeah, yeah! What a disappointment. The guy was just excited about I don't know but everyone's like oh boy there is something great that is coming out. So they talk about that and essentially Dr Kiki's message is

2:33:22 This but anyway that was just my little side note that I had to make because people are bashing the scientists and getting all Huffy about it, and I just want to tell people shut up already Science okay? There you go. That's how the scientists think about us Literally we're saying shut up. It's science. I mean she shut up slave shut up slave I'm thinking we should I should clip that down a little bit more whenever there's a science thing We just roll out dr.. Kiki you know she shut up. Yeah, let me see Shut up it's science. That's actually a nice little clip yeah, I'll clip it down a little bit more pretty good right oh

2:34:18 Yo! It's amazing. Dr Kiki. If she listened to our show, she'd know she wouldn't have said that but... She doesn't care about this another one of these people. It was pointed out by one of our listeners who is very very disappointed in dr kiki That was his exact words I'm disappointed with the shut up slave moment Very very disappointed in doctor kiki at the moment Hey are you doing twit today? Yep. Oh cool, alright it'll be late for you. It's starting to rain. Oh it's raining right? Alright. Hey well promote us because we need some help on the donations so talk about the show Talk about how its twice a week now or some bull crap funny joke that you do with Leo You know whenever I ask you that question Leo's numbers go up cause otherwise people don't watch the show

2:35:12 Yeah, well you know I'm a big draw. You are! The best co-host of the best podcast in the universe my friend Alright, well we'll find out Thursday what's going on with our exile status. Until then I am still in exile in Amsterdam In the morning...I'm Adam Curry Well I'm not in Amsterdam! I'm in Northern Silicon Valley where I will remain! I'm John C. Dvorak We'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda It's science! Shut up!! You slaves can get used to mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Cheap macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together Mac n' Cheese! Mac N' Cheese! Mac N' Cheese! Ha ha... Mac N' Cheese Hey everybody! The best podcast in the universe! Devorak dot org slash NA Shut up slave