Episode 455 · Thursday, 25 October 2012

Disposition Matrix

Bipartisan consensus on the presidential kill list and the technical manipulation of the debates define the fifth anniversary of the world’s leading news deconstruction program.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 455

About this episode

The Obama administration faces mounting scrutiny over the Disposition Matrix, a permanent database used to track and target terrorism suspects for capture or assassination. During the final 2012 presidential debate, both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney signaled bipartisan support for the continued use of drone strikes, while DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz dismissed inquiries regarding the White House kill list as non-serious. This expansion of executive power coincides with a 158-page United Nations document from the UNODC that seeks to harmonize global laws against the terrorist use of the internet.

Investigation into the Benghazi consulate attack reveals redacted State Department emails and a claim of responsibility by Ansar al-Sharia that spokesperson Victoria Nuland struggled to clarify during press briefings. General Wesley Clark and Congressman Jason Chaffetz clashed on CNN over security failures, while reports surfaced of a suspect held in Tunisia whom US authorities have yet to interview. Domestically, the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA) is driving Swiss banks to drop American clients, forcing expatriates to navigate a five-year tax compliance gauntlet and potential exit taxes. Meanwhile, the UK is intensifying arrests for social media posts, and US voters report early voting glitches in North Carolina where machines reportedly flipped votes between candidates.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate the fifth anniversary of the program by revisiting the four-minute phone call that launched the show in 2007. Longtime artist Martin JJ announces his semi-retirement from the No Agenda Art Generator, while the hosts explore whether podcasters now qualify for the Producers Guild of America. The technical production of the debates is deconstructed, specifically the use of cross-camera angles to manipulate the perceived height of the candidates.


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CHAPTER 01 / 24 Discussion

Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act, US Expatriation and Exit Taxes

A discussion regarding the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA) highlights how Swiss banks are increasingly shunning American clients due to stringent US reporting requirements. Individuals seeking to renounce US citizenship face significant hurdles, including a mandatory five-year tax compliance certification and a potential exit tax based on net worth. The IRS maintains the authority to invalidate expatriation if a taxpayer is found to have lied during the process.

facta· irs· swiss banks· expatriation· exit tax· citizenship

00:00 I love how you can deconstruct a mass miseducation machine, the popular lapdog media which keeps begging for biscuits from the two corporate wings of our one-party system. Celebrating Cinco de Mayo in October. From the capital of the drone star state, Austin, Tejas in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where it is our fifth anniversary. And Wari Banks shun ganks in Switzerland. I'm John C. Dvorak. This is Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. You want to try that again and tell me what you just said?

00:48 Worry banks shun chicken shanks. We're wary should have been wary. Oh you said worry I said worry we say worry when I read it. That's a great. It's a great way to kick off our fifth anniversary Really start over you let's start over come on. No. I don't want to start over It's too much fun this way. Do you really want to start over you want to do it again? No, I don't want to start over. I think it's fine. Okay. It's not like anyone listens to the show at the beginning and says oh He mispronounced something. I think you'd be amazed. Oh no, this is no good. That's why I always put a little funny at the beginning before we start so that people know that something amazing is coming up in the next two and a half to three hours. Well, I think what's interesting about the Worry, Worry, Worry, Wary, Wary. I can't look at the word and pronounce it. It's weird. It's like Rydia.

01:44 Yeah, I do the same thing with Rydia. I know if I look at the word, I know it's Riyadh, but if I look at it, I can't stop saying Rydia. I used to, when I was a kid, I used to say Greenwich, for Greenwich. Yeah, yeah. Which seems logical to me. Anyway, so there's an article in the Wall Street Journal about wary Swiss banks shunning Yanks. Yeah. And it goes on, and of course we talked about this two years ago. You know about how the banks are, there's new laws being passed in the United States saying that the banks have to cough up anything that they can do with it. Oh no, no, no, it's not new laws being created, these laws are on the books and anything over, I think it's certainly over $50,000 but it may be less now. The banks have to document every single move. Yeah, foreign banks. Yeah, foreign banks. It's the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act, FACTA. So if they have any operations in the United States or even have a relative here, they get thrown in jail. Yeah.

02:41 So here's the kicker. I mean, one thing we didn't get out of this was the following. I mean, when we talked about it, which we've discussed before, the goal of us, we like to do this to our own. To be sure Americans, apparently a lot of people, they've just said, screw it, I'm going to take a foreign citizenship and you can have my passport. And then it says now, now it's like you can't do that. You can't renounce. This is what I've been telling you, that I looked into this, you can't even get a dual citizenship anymore because if you renounce, you will no longer be allowed to come back to the United States. Well no, now it's worse than that. To be sure, Americans aren't absolved of their tax obligations if they renounce.

03:31 For the renunciation to become official, this is the problem, the taxpayer has to certify that he or she has been in full tax compliance for five years and perhaps pay an exit tax. Oh, no. The only groups, the only groups that act like this are cults and the mob. This is an exit tax. Wow. And how does that and how is the exit tax computed? It's probably your net worth. And by the way, this is if a taxpayer lies, which you know, the IRS can declare the expatriation invalid and proceed against him or her. You know what's better? It's better to just fake your death. It's probably cheaper. The death tax is cheaper. Yeah, just fake your death and then just kind of disappear.

04:27 I mean there's ways to disappear. You can definitely just get out. Yeah, but you'd have to, you know, there was actually a guy who wrote a book on that. I remember about five years ago, actually before we started doing the show, I remember some guy who made a big deal about how Made a book and made a deal about how to fake your death for whatever reason there is apparently some good reasons to once in a while. Yeah, like exactly to get out of the United States Well, isn't that did not I mean we call each other, you know human resources from time to time, but definitely Citizens and slaves. I mean this is the definition of a prison. You literally cannot get out. Oh, you can't get out Yeah, it is a prison. Yeah, you know take it or leave it. I

CHAPTER 02 / 24 Discussion

No Agenda Art Generator, Martin JJ Retirement Announcement

The hosts announce that frequent contributor Martin JJ is entering semi-retirement from providing artwork for the program. Martin JJ, a prolific artist on the No Agenda Art Generator platform, sent a note expressing his decision to step back while jokingly claiming his dominance over other artists. The hosts invite new artists to submit work for the fifth anniversary and future episodes.

martin jj· no agenda art generator· digital art· podcast artwork· retirement

05:15 Well in the morning to you John C. Dvorak. In the morning to you Adam Curry. In the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water, feet in the air. Also, happy in the morning to all of our supporting knights who Are out there yes, and this is our fifth anniversary? So it's a fifth anniversary show and it's very nice to see all of the human resources in the chat room We've got a nice quorum everybody lined up there all charged up and ready to go in the morning to you in the morning also to we should probably get this out of the way right off the bat in the morning to Martin JJ who has been

05:54 providing us with, well I mean we've been choosing his artwork, there have been many artists who've been providing artwork for each episode at noagendaartgenerator.com Martin JJ sent us a very interesting note which I found to be a very no agenda way of doing things, did you agree? Yeah, I agree a hundred percent. He said that he rocks. He rules the world and all the other artists suck It was absolutely very no agenda ish And that because of this situation he's not going to do art Like I don't want to do it anymore. It's I'm too good. I'm too good for all this Yeah, then he slammed dunked right in our face. Yeah, so So there will be no Martin JJ art for a while actually I think it's it's a pretty

06:37 It's a pretty smart move. He's saying, hey, you know, I don't know what it is. It's like, it's like I'm on drugs here. I love it when you guys pick the art, but I got to stop. He's trying to kick the habit. So we'd love to see some other artists check in for our fifth anniversary show today with. Yeah, he's gone into on a hiatus. He's on semi retirement is actually what it was. It wasn't really gloating. No, no. Although that's what I do. Can't anybody else even come close to the great work I do. The outstanding awesomeness of me. So it started, wow, it started five years ago on, well actually I have the first 40 seconds of our very first show.

CHAPTER 03 / 24 Discussion

No Agenda Fifth Anniversary, First Episode Retrospective

To celebrate the fifth anniversary of the program, a clip from the very first episode is played, featuring the original introduction from London and California. The retrospective highlights the evolution of the show's audio quality and the initial concept of an "agenda-less" eavesdropping-style conversation. The hosts reflect on the simple four-minute phone call that launched the production five years prior.

podcast history· mtv· london· california· anniversary· audio quality

07:28 Oh, come on. I was thinking about doing a retrospective like that and then I said I am not I don't feel like listening to this old stuff. No me neither. It's like Johnny Carson used to do this every year and then he'd always bring out that one guy who threw an axe and right into the crotch of some guy it was. Oh really? It was a black and white clip they'd show it every year. I don't think I've seen this one. Yeah. For some reason this clip doesn't even want to Doesn't even want to it doesn't even want to load your clip will play There's something let me just see there's something very so where the show started it was a lot of dead air Yeah, it seems like no there. Yeah, what? And well we started Come on. This clip here. We go. Here's the clip welcome everybody to a brand new program look I'm I sound 15

08:20 What's up with that? You don't have the compression going on, that's for sure. The Pod Show Network, which could be titled a number of things. We chose no agenda, but it could be the show with no imaging, no content yet. The only thing it is is two no content, come on, we're being honest. Guys with an idea of putting together a, what should we call it, John? Agenda-less show. Agenda-less show? Oh, do you hear your audio? Hi everybody, this is no agenda. John, how you doing? We have improved our quality somewhat. Oh, exactly. John C. Dvorak in California, Adam Curry here in London. Something we cooked up. What was it? Like a four minute phone call. Hey, we should do a show together. Okay.

09:12 Let's call it no agenda. Okay, and here we are. Well, of course, the basis for a show like this, and I think everybody out there who's ever had a, who has conversations with friends, they occasionally, especially when the conversations go on and on stage, you know, that would have been an interesting thing for other people to listen to. There you have it. That's the theory. I mean, it's not quite like the MTV Moon launch, Moonman rocket launch in 81, but that's how we started. Yeah, it's a version of eavesdropping and I tend to sound like Ted Turner. If you've ever listened to him talk, he always goes, Uhhhhhhh. Constantly. Uhhhhhhh. Sounds like a walrus. Yeah, well. Anyway. No, it's alright. Yeah, that's the way. And they were still doing this five years later.

CHAPTER 04 / 24 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Fifth Anniversary Donations, Bin Laden Claim

A segment dedicated to acknowledging high-tier donors and executive producers features several contributions of $555.55 in honor of the fifth anniversary. Listeners request "de-douching" and "karma" for various life events, including divorces and job searches. One donor references a purported slip-up by a congresswoman on CNBC regarding the status of Osama bin Laden, though the hosts express difficulty in tracking down specific email links.

executive producers· donations· bin laden· cnbc· karma· de-douching

10:04 Wow, yeah people like it. That's the thing that I tell by today's support We have a lot of 5555 supporters, which will mention at the end of the show Do all the well-wishers so there's there's a couple of things that we should probably jump into do you want to thank our? Producers first and then we'll jump into some stuff that's going on since we're kind of celebrating. Can you count give me a countdown? Yeah from five Well, I you think it should be from five or do you think it should be from? Nevermind the spreadsheet is open. Gotcha. All right. Here we go All right. We have a bunch of executive producers who came in and including an instant night

10:47 Jonathan Spirey in Orting, Washington. Oh, hello. That's awesome. 101112. Awesome. 101112. I'm donating 101112. Why? Because the central question is I've been a douchebag. He's doing the Obama central question. Love it. Uh, yeah, that's good. And despite missing the October 11th date, I really like that this donation adds up to 33. Absolutely. I do not expect this to redeem my lack of participation until now, until now, nor do I require a myriad of jingles. Though some of those combinations are quite good. But having listened to all of your shows, save the one you never aired,

11:31 We only have half of that one by the way. I'm plenty familiar with all the jingles and by the way, I have the second half of that show and I couldn't find it if I wanted to. I'd like to say thank you for betting me, letting me be a producer and a knight for the best podcast in the universe, ITM. Thank you very much. Thank you, great support. Sir Jonathan will be knighted later on in this program. And then we had three people, and I was thinking about this because one of them came in right after the last, before I did the newsletter, with 555.55, which is 55, which is five times five, or five fives on the fifth anniversary, so there's a lot of fives.

12:17 And I was thinking of putting in a newsletter and I said, you know, I thought it was, I just said, nah, we'll just stick with the 55.55. But I really do appreciate this. David Rosen, Clarkston, Michigan came in with $555.55. Just sent a five year anniversary donation. Attached is my accounting of past donations and he puts them over for a knighthood. No fancy request. The black knighthood is for me, I guess we missed him some. Well actually, if this puts him over, that's not a black knighthood. So he's probably not gonna add everything check on that no fancy requests We are also celebrating our anniversary on 1026 so a happy anniversary call to my lovely wife of 16 years Love the show so let's hope for many more to come best wishes wishes from gitmo nation automobile. Oh, that's and his his it's his wife Tony Tony his wife Tony. All right, so he will be a knight and Tony will be able to

13:11 uh... admired his only night ticket back he gets because this week discounting shows he has to knighthoods all while so i don't know how to get a black knight knighted his wife gets one also has a regular okay so alright so that she can uh... admire his lance david debbie urs in l tuna iowa $555.55. And Carmen, it knows where to go. Hopefully I'm within a few dollars of a knighthood when we're looking into that. If he gets one, he'll get it on Sunday. Papa Guido in Chicago, $555.55 anonymous. Credit is Papa Guido. Congrats on your fifth. Sorry I'm short one digit and will deny you.

13:56 You both are vacations, but I figured five should have some magic too. Yeah, we could have been nice to have 5,000 files, but that would be six fives. Yeah. May there be many more years to come. May it continue to drive me further from any hope of reintegrating with the masses of brainwashed slaves. Adam, if you can handle this, I think we need to hear a remix of Huntsman saying only Poo-poo and a Hillary too delicious top it off with a house selling karma Generating you can take that to the bank Okay, so I don't know what's the huntsman poo-poo thing? I'm I think it's I at the end. It sounds like he says poo-poo I think it's what he's Part of it. I don't think you can do that. Well. I'm not prepared to do it. I wasn't you know give him a hearts a huntsman too delicious and

14:43 Karma with a take that to the bank. Okay, we can do that It's almost too delicious to believe my friend you've got karma and where is it? You can take that to the bank. Hey, now there we go. It's four. Come on. That's it's forced to me. We don't really want to do forks. Three succinct ones, even though Papa Guido with a generous donation of that amount, it will do it. Sir Michael Miller in Tiburon, California, becomes our associate executive producer at two hundred seventy seven dollars and seventy five cents. Congratulations on the best

15:24 podcast in the universe and he multiplied 55 55 times 5 again 277759 that's very creative Daniel Cesaric Cesaric Cesaric Cesaric Mel Melbourne Australia 256 I didn't see a note from him. Crash EMT in Gainesville, Virginia, 250. Please refer to me as Crash EMT. Not a boner anymore. First time donor. Greeting from Northern Virginia. Loving the best podcast in the universe. Thought it was about time to provide my value for yours. More to come, but first I can use a de-douching and some divorce and job karma as 212 has been a

16:11 Rough year for the slave also say hello to my almost douche friend. Dr. Red who hit me in the mouth He's tricking he's trickling by on PayPal monthly Which we should all be so kind to do Adam I hope you like the link to the idiot congresswoman in New York who let slip on CNBC that we still had bin Laden weird, I don't remember receiving that link and Well, I think we should find it. Yeah, that sounds like a good one. You know, this is the thing I want to remind everybody Email is without a doubt the worst way to get something to us certainly to me if you want to Contribute the way to flow it in is through no agenda news network calm all you have to do is set up a blog you can set up a wordpress blog or blogger doesn't matter as long as you can find an RSS feed and

17:01 I The way people send emails with horrible subject lines, etc. It just sucks. Yeah, and yeah, the problem is subject lines people say hey or hey, check this out note for you or you won't believe this Yeah, that kind of thing. It's very, very hard. I agree, but this... If you had sent me the clip, I'm sure I would have put it in today's thing. I am not like you. I do look at my email. I'm not saying I don't look at my email, but you get lumped in with, you know, spammers and all kinds of other crap.

17:52 So anyway, here's your de-douching. You've been de-douched. And some divorce and job karma. You've got karma. Well deserved, I believe. I do believe. Thomas... Thomas Oser? I think, O-E-S-E-R and Rizal, New South Wales, 222. Can my producer listing be furiousgriffin.com? It's my website and needs some link karma. I've been listening to the show from the beginning but I've never donated. I did however get a mention from my no agenda radiation calculator a while back. I figured de-douching and some karma couldn't hurt.

18:30 and a huntsman would be great. All right so we'll do that for you. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. And our last donor is or associate executive producer is Kevin Thomas in Smyrna, Georgia 20907. I don't think I can have a note from him Uh, that I can find. So I want to thank all these, uh, uh, gentlemen and gentle ladies for, I don't think there's any ladies in this list. for helping us out on show, fifth anniversary show, as a matter of fact, which is show 455, which is 450th anniversary, fifth anniversary, which is interesting. And we remind people that we still have to do the show, continue doing the show, so keep us going for another five years by going to noagendashow.com, noagendanation.com, dvorak.org, slash NA, and channel dvorak.com, slash NA, and give us some,

19:32 Some some credit for the Sunday show and yeah, yeah, and and these are real credits in fact I want to mention that right after I remind everybody that Another way to always help out with the show is to do the following go out and propagate our formula Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth I I do have, I did find a note from Kevin Thomas and I think I'll read it. I'm compelled to send a donation for your fifth anniversary. I've been an avid listener since show 320. I don't think I could get through my daily commute without it. This I'm sending 20907 which is triple O excuse me, twaselnuff. Keep on assassinating the media.

CHAPTER 05 / 24 Discussion

Producers Guild of America, Membership Requirements for Podcasters

A listener's inquiry suggests that multiple associate executive producer credits on the show may qualify individuals for membership in the Producers Guild of America (PGA). The PGA requirements for "New Media" projects include verifiable international releases, which the hosts believe the podcast meets. Joining the guild is discussed as a way to access benefits such as health insurance and industry voting blocks.

producers guild of america· pga· new media· credits· health insurance· membership

20:28 And he would like a shut up slave take it to the bank karma. I think it's twas enough isn't it? That would be good shut up slave take it to the bank karma. We can do that Here we go You've got karma So what we have been saying ever since we started with our producer program for producers, executive and associate executives, and those of you who have been around the show understand that as part of our value for value model, we set it up very much like Hollywood does. This is no different. There's no reason why your credit as an executive producer or an associate executive producer on the No Agenda show is any less.

21:09 any less than your credit on a coast-to-coast radio program, nationally syndicated, or on a television show or a movie. We're just as valid. And to prove that, Sir Gene of Tulev sent me a note. He says, hey Adam, I'm going to put your real producer credits to the test. I have nine associate executive producer listings with no agenda, which according to my calculation should qualify me for the Producers Guild of America membership, where the real hookers and blow are. Assuming that you can validate the credits. And so he sent me a link to the membership requirements.

21:49 And it looks like you do indeed qualify if you have no less than two new media projects that have broad domestic or verifiable international releases. Within the digitally enabled interactive storytelling production internet entertainment production video game production broadband and then has a couple other Options here, so I think we are indeed we do have a broad domestic verifiable international audience and we qualify as an internet entertainment production and

22:25 Definitely. Now the only thing here is you have to pay a fee. Of course, of course he's gonna have to pay a fee. He wants to be a member of the guild. Do you have insurance? Oh yeah, of course they do. Yeah, you can get health insurance and all kinds of benefits. I think you can even go to movies for free at the Directors Guild and there's all kinds of cross-promotion stuff. Oh, it's well worth it to get a Guild membership. Well, I should become a member too. Well, we might have to because you need either four Sources who will verify you who are not guild members or two who are guild members And I think as a part of our program John you and I should become members of the producers Guild of America Can you imagine how many people have been an executive or associate executive producer at least twice in five years time? We will own this guild. Yeah, we could be we could say I get a voting block. Oh, yeah

23:24 Yeah, we can become very powerful! We could even get seats at the Oscars! Yeah, sure. Oh yeah, right. Yeah, that's gonna happen. But it's a great idea, isn't it? I like it. So, I'll look into it. Let me see. Yeah, look into it and see what we have to do. I wonder what the membership dues are. But if we can do that... Yes, there's the rub. No, because Mickey's a SAG member and it's like $200 a year. Yeah, but actors, I think they give themselves a break because that's really more like a real guild. This is more like a drinking club. I think that the producer producers are always very frustrated because there is no producer award ever There isn't there's no such and the Academy Awards. There's no producer of the year no, but they bring no that's true So they're always frustrated reason is what the old producers are just the money bags Well guess what

24:21 As Gene pointed out, that's where the real hookers and blow are. I think we need to be a member of those clubs. You've put yourself in with the different category of person. What do you do for a living, sir? I'm a producer. Wow! Take me to bed. Can I see your... My dress fell off. That used to be the number one come on in the New York bar scene in Upper West Side. Upper East Side. Yeah. We also got a note from Sir Ernie. Adam and John, first picks of the samples are in of the 121212 Karma coin, the Super Karma Challenge coin. And so you can take a look at those at noagendasuperkarma.com. This is a challenge coin. It's a 121212 Super Karma

25:11 And what is it? Oh, and the 12 12 21 supreme hyper karma coin rolled into one custom laser engraving on the side of the coin available different platings available. Wow. He's oh, even a trackable geo coin option available. That's kind of cool. I might go for the trackable geo coin. Yeah, that way we can find you when you're rolled up in a ditch. No agenda super karma dot com. So have a look at that. And, uh, Wow, yeah. I for some reason I wound up with 8 million clips today. We don't obviously don't have to play them all but my goodness. Well obviously. Yes. Well what's the... I'll tell you what to start with. Start with gold. Yes. Do you have a clip about gold? Because there's you know it's obviously very... No no no that's not what I meant. I meant have a... the number one your best absolute punch him in the mouth

CHAPTER 06 / 24 Discussion

Benghazi Attack Investigation, Hillary Clinton Emails, Tunisian Suspect

The investigation into the Benghazi consulate attack focuses on redacted State Department emails and the claim of responsibility by Ansar al-sharia. Discussion centers on a suspect apprehended in Turkey and transferred to Tunisia, whom US authorities have not yet questioned. Critics argue the administration's narrative is inconsistent, specifically regarding how intelligence was gathered from social media during the event.

benghazi· hillary clinton· tunisia· ansar al-sharia· state department· emails

26:03 clip of the day. No, I'm not gonna do that. Roll out the top one. Let's hear it. I'm not gonna do that. Go with your best shot. I have no idea what it is. That's very subjective. How about you? How about you roll out your best top of the line clip? Let's see what we got. By the way, there's something very wrong with my computer here. I'm trying to Figure it out so clips may or may not play well Let's let's start off by talking about this this fiasco going on with Benghazi and the oh the bad memo yes He leaked email the bad actor Syndrome, and this is like becoming such a joke that even Hillary She's laughing when discussing it. She's laughing. Yeah, here's where I think she's laughing at I

26:51 Now, here's the wrap of the... I've got the CNN, the first CNN wrap of the Benghazi situation. I tried to cut it down so it's not too long, but give us a little background. Hold on, John. I can't even get it. Fifth anniversary show, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, there you go. Something is screwing up my computer and I don't know what it is, but I cannot even... If I hit the window with the clips, I'll hear three, four... It takes four seconds for that window to activate. Huh? Did you update your Mac sometime? No. Did you just update your Mac? No. No. Let me see, what the fuck? Oh, I see. Oh yeah, this is exactly the fucking problem. What? Hold on. Oh. Ugh! Oh, get a hammer out and pound on that Mac. I'm going to, hold on a second. I'm trying to... Wow. I've got it. You know what it is? Yeah, this is so amazing. You keep teasing us, but what is it? Thunderbird!

27:50 Thunderbird you know I can't use that product I have too much email and Thunderbird just clogs up and it's just sitting there and it's just because I quit it I always quit it before the show control alt delete and kill it from the operating system yeah um do you do that yeah we don't do it that way on the Mac how do you do it we do option command escape and then we kill it Sounds like the same thing. Okay, I've got it. Yes. Okay. We're good. We're good to go. It was Thunderbird. I figured that out. Wait, wait, wait. First let's start with the classic CNN tease. Hello? Yeah, it's not... Well, this is a great wonderful way to finish five years. Now my mouse is frozen. What kind of... That's right. You're using a Mac. Please don't. It's really not funny. Well, you want to reboot and we can just... Well, at this point, I don't even know if I can...

28:53 Come on, come on baby, come on, just... It can't hear you! Yes it can! Why is it not doing this? It's like... Now it's the Apple trackpad. Okay, let's try to get a virus. Sounds like a virus. No, I don't have a virus. Alright, what are we... What clip are we playing, John? I'm trying to calm down. Classic CNN tease on the consulate in Benghazi bombing. President Obama surrounding the attack on the US consulate in Libya. That's absolutely right. CNN has now obtained a government email that shows the administration was notified soon after the attack that an Islamic group was claiming credit. Let's bring in CNN intelligence correspondent Suzanne Kelly for more on this. Put this all in perspective for us.

29:38 She's like another she looks like one of those CIA women they always have a certain look to them. She's is she the older one the older woman is that the one what's no she's pretty she's middle-aged she's she's a good-looking woman. What's her name again? Susan somewhere else. Perspective for us, Suzanne. Oh yeah, Suzanne. Well, open Kate, the release of the email certainly has provided more ammunition for critics who say the administration hasn't been forthcoming with what they knew about the Benghazi investigation. But they also highlight a growing frustration among those in the administration who are saying enough already, let's get on with bringing those responsible to justice.

30:16 Now, can I just interject a little bit here? It's so obvious that what is going on here is that Hillary is now leaking this information because she wants to get the sticky off of her. You look at those emails which are redacted but it's redacted in a way that it just says blank at state.gov blank at state.gov blank at state.gov and FBI.gov. It's like all State Department. Here's the thing that's funny about it. CNN keeps presenting it as leaked Yeah. How do you leak a redacted email? Yeah. You know, if it's leaked, you have the email, right? If it was like if it's a WikiLeaks, for example, they would have the real email, the whole thing. You'd think. But you get a piece with a bunch of black lines all through it. How is that leaked? Yeah, it's not leaked, obviously. So anyway, so they have a bigger, longer discussion of this on first CNN wrap on Benghazi, which takes it a little further, because I think they probably covered this more than anybody.

31:16 I'm sorry. Which one are we doing now? First CNN rap of Benghazi. There we go. Sorry, I'll get back into it. Now I lost your Hillary clip somehow. I've said it and I'll say it one more time. No one wants to find out what happened more than I do. Secretary Hillary Clinton came out firing today after emails obtained by CNN made clear that shortly after the attack began, The State Department notified officials from the White House, the top intelligence agency, the Pentagon and FBI that an attack was underway and that Ambassador Stevens was in the compound. Just two hours later, another email indicated the Libyan extremist group Ansar al-Sharia was claiming responsibility for the attack on social media websites. Okay, we don't need any more. Now, because I'm trying to get these short, because I do have one real, I have one stunning clip, by the way. Keep going.

32:07 But let's play this one. This is the one that makes me suspicious and I believe that this is part of the reason Hillary's laughing, which is the guy ends up in Tunisia. You also have been reporting today, Suzanne, on an arrest of a man who was linked to the attacks in custody in Tunisia tonight. What do you know about him and have American authorities been able to question him? They haven't been able to question him yet, Erin, and we do know that he was arrested. He was moving through Turkey and there was a request by the U.S. to detain him, which Turkey did and then turned him over to the Tunisians. Now, Senator Saxby Chambliss was talking about this a little bit earlier, and he has told us that he was believed to have taken part in the attack on the compound. Another really interesting part of this too, Erin, is that

32:52 he was apparently posting details about the attack as it was happening on social media websites. Wow, so they found out about him on social media? That's how they found out that they followed that link and tracked it back to find this guy. Okay, so there's a copy of it. Hold on a second. He's moving Through turk what is he in like an allied van moving van? Motorcycle with a sidecar how am I supposed to imagine this yeah the guy's a blogger probably one of ours Yeah, right right right and so he's

33:27 he blogs this event or whatever he's actually is on Twitter and Facebook and Aaron says something really stupid by the way afterwards she says oh that shows you the power of social media exactly what she said she's dumb. So the guys knew what he had So the guy was a techno expert, that's what I'm guessing. Takes off through Turkey. Just imagine he's on a motorcycle with a sidecar with goggles. And with one of those leather... It holds his Macintosh. Exactly. One of those postal bags. Well on his iPhone, zooming down with some goggles on. A lot of dust. I'm in Turkey, if only I could make it to Tunisia. Okay, got it. Somehow, this is my vision of the whole thing. He's stopped and he's captured by the Turks. He's taking a leak. I mean, how would we know he's there unless the Turks told us, right? Yeah, of course.

34:27 So the Turks say, we got some guy and we got his laptop and then we had sex with him a couple of times and finally gave up the information we needed. And they said, oh, okay, we'll come and get him. And so then somehow or some way, shape or form, the guy is taken by some fake Americans in some scam like a movie and then didn't drag gotten to Tunisia as fast as they could because everyone knows we can't do anything with Tunisia because they're like you know it's half Islamist so the guy's now safely parked in Tunisia so we can't get a hold of him because we have in he has information we need to find no we try to we're trying to get this guy out of the picture because he's gonna blow the whistle on the whole scam because he's a very very low level operative and you know you have to either kill him or

35:16 Why didn't they just kill him by the way? It would have been ea- I think it would have been smarter to just kill him. Well, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't think we can just keep killing people. Oh please, oh please! Like Romney said, we can't kill our way out of this. Oh please, stop! Now maybe they did kill him and maybe he's not in Tunisia. We don't know. Right. That's a possibility and that's why the clip, why is Hillary laughing? This is why she's laughing. The independent accountability review board is already hard at work looking at everything, not cherry picking one story here or one document there, but looking at everything which I I highly recommend as the appropriate approach to something as complex as an attack like this. When I heard her say that, and this clip has been played everywhere, I'm so amazed that no one says, why is she laughing when she says that? And you've done a very good job of explaining that.

CHAPTER 07 / 24 Discussion

State Department Press Briefing, Victoria Nuland, Responsibility Claims

State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland faces questioning from Reuters reporter Matt Lee regarding the reliability of claims of responsibility for the Benghazi attack. The briefing explores whether the State Department reports every claim made on social media regardless of credibility. The hosts argue that the concept of "competing claims of responsibility" is a media meme rather than a common reality in international terrorism.

victoria nuland· matt lee· reuters· state department· diplomacy· terrorism

36:11 I think it's at least one explanation, but there's something fishy going on. Well, so I checked out the State Department press conference, of course, as I always do, because you know that Matt from Reuters is going to get into Victoria Nuland's face about this. And she actually started off by saying, well, the secretary did all the work today, so what's on your minds? Yeah, like the secretary told us all the truth and all we had to do was just write down what she said and not ask any questions. So obviously what came up is so how does this work with these emails and what gets into a cable? You know, what's the truth behind it? Is this really, is there a real report here? Do we know that this is a real guy? They're trying to figure out what we're trying to figure out. The difference is you and I, you know, drink wine and... And we're better at it.

37:01 Yeah, we sit down and have a fireball twice a week and we're much better at it. These guys are every single day being indoctrinated into coming up with absolutely nothing. But the exchange I found rather interesting. Was it someone out in the field? That particular piece was disseminated by our operations center. I know where it was disseminated from. Where did they get it? Whether they saw it themselves or whether it was highlighted by our people in the field, I can't speak to that. I frankly don't know. It can happen any of a number of ways. So what's going on here is he's saying where did the information come from and she's saying well you know our field office said no no I understand that where did they get the information from that there was an attack on the consulate? In instances such as this is it standard practice to relay all claims of responsibility sort of no matter where they come from who they might be so I mean it could be somebody

37:52 Flick waving a flag in the air and saying I'm responsible and that would also be reported. Yes, so there's no Listen very carefully what he was being said here So if someone just waves a flag in the air and says I did it I did it that would be reported in these cables in these emails sort of value judgment on the reliability of the claim implied by Having it relayed through this system And in fact, there are instances, you know, where the Op Center might send out messages that three different groups are claiming responsibility for the same event. But it's standard practice for them when we have breaking news for them to inform all of the principals in this building so that everybody knows what's moving. Hold on a second. I got to interrupt this.

38:36 Mainly because I have a clip that's coming up that I want to put, which I think is a good clip, it's between Chaffetz, the guy who's one of our favorite guys, the Congressman, and Wesley Clark. Did you see that by the way? No, I did not. No, no, no, I didn't. It's a beauty. It's a beauty to start yelling at each other. Oh, no, I didn't. Oh, wow. But Clark is a total stooge. Yeah, no, he's flipped. Because he is. He's a stooge for... Yeah, he's flipped. He's always been a stooge for the Democrats. Yeah, but he's got a reality show. But we have the goods on him. We have the one clip where he basically blows a whistle on what we call the West Clark 7. Exactly. West Glenn, we didn't call it that, but we do now. Well, I've actually isolated that, instead of playing that whole clip, just so people know who are new to the program, here it is. So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? And he said, oh, it's worse than that. He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, he said, I just

39:36 He said, I just got this down from upstairs, meaning the Secretary of Defense's office today. And he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran. The West Clark Seven. So anyway, so in this thing, the reason I'm stopping this other clip is because when she, because apparently the State Department has developed this meme that And now when you hear him say it later, you'll I we're not gonna stop the clip for it, but you'll hear it. It's oh people are taking responsibility left and right for things they didn't do Okay, well maybe we play that reason I want to stop is because if you have been paying attention for the past You know number of years anybody out there

40:25 It's not true. There's been numerous events where nobody... No accountability, no responsibility, nothing. Yeah, nobody said to be... In fact, I think in the last couple of shows there was an event where something got blowed up and nobody said anything. And I'm not noticing over the last number of years where somebody something gets blowed up and then five groups say, we did it, no we did it, no we did it. That's not what happens. The group who did it takes responsibility and they're respected by the other guys. So I think what's happening here in the State Department Press Corps is they're all going

41:02 They're saying the same thing like no one ever does this. How come all of a sudden now we have a group taking responsibility on Facebook? And how come that's now the subject of the email which you're now backpedaling on? I think they're saying the same thing. They're not saying it explicitly, but they're curious as to where did this come from and do you just report anything and how come this hasn't happened before? I mean if the claim is so is ludicrously unbelievable, I don't know. I mean like if someone forged the Quaker Church or something and so that they were that would be passed on as well well They obviously use their judgment as to whether they think it's important principles in this building to Be aware of what's out there, but so now she contradicts herself by saying well of course they have some judgment They wouldn't do it for any old kook But if you're waving your arms and say I did it then we will put that in the report Lee What's out there in the public domain?

41:56 In all likelihood, if there had been 100 claims of responsibility that night, they would have done a summary which said more than 100 groups, including Matt Lee, have claimed responsibility for this. this attack. What? Matt Lee is the guy, is our buddy from Reuters. So yeah, but I'm, but yeah, but I mean, okay, just keep playing. She's an idiot. Uh-huh. And then said that. And then not evaluated them one way or the other. Really? So they would have given my alleged claim of responsibility equal weight with that of a group of a known terrorist group in Libya? Again, Matt, you're, we're getting into crazy land here. My point is.

42:34 Simply that if the environment is saturated with claims of responsibility, they're going to make sure the principals know that we've got complete competing claims. That's my only point here. And again, just while we're on the procedure, while we're in crazy land. Repeating claims of responsibility. Exactly. That's what I was wondering. The objective, I realize, that they go to all the principals, but is it then that the analysis comes from the Intel community? Correct. And so they're really the ones who are charged with assessing the reliability or the plausibility of any of these claims. And in that case, but the principals are kept informed just so that they know what's out there? One more on this. I don't know if this is in crazy land or not, but

43:27 Do you, it's on the specifics of this email in question, do you have any reason to believe that it could actually just been wrong? That there was not a Facebook posting at all? Or... Again, uh... Does that happen? I mean, or... Stumped. She's stumped here. Occasionally these emails come around when there's a developing situation and they're not accurate. Again, these are designed to keep people informed of what's moving I didn't actually look at it to see whether it was a press report about a Facebook posting or whether it was the operation center itself saying that there was a Facebook posting so, you know, I can't evaluate one way or the other Wow Yeah, oh gee you don't know do you? It's just unbelievable

44:21 And now she claims that it's intelligence who sort out to see if anything within those reports are credible or not. They really are treading water here. Well yeah, because there's a couple of problems here. By the way, it is a meme, the term competing claims of responsibility. It is a meme that was developed by Foreign Policy Magazine from what I can tell. And which I think is the Council Foreign Relations organ if I'm not mistaken, I could be wrong. Anyway, no, the problem with the whole thing that she's outlining, that it's not intelligence agencies that decide who gets credit, it's the news media.

45:00 The guys go right to Al Jazeera and said, we did it, whatever group it is, we did it and then screw you and we're out of here. And that's how it gets into the public domain. It's not like it gets filtered by the CIA and the next thing you know, we say, well, we can't figure it out. There's 10 guys who have been claiming responsibility as bullcrap never happens very rare in fact if you look at competing claims of responsibility on the internets I'm looking at the book of knowledge right now 2000 only happens a few times yeah 2010 seems like it happened Afghanistan that was that was when it was rare yeah rare rare event yeah

45:38 So they make it sound like, oh, this is going on all the time. You can't figure out who's doing what. Eh, liars. Now if you want to play the, I think, the whopper of a clip, it's the Wesley Clark. Yeah, I'd love to, especially if he's getting pissed off at somebody. Who's he fighting with now? No, he doesn't get pissed off. Wesley is towing the line. This is, by the way, about two-thirds of the way through the interview. And Clark is just full of crap. And who is he? It's Clark and whom? What's his name? Chaffetz? Chaffetz. Chaffetz. Chaffetz. Yeah, Chaffetz is on there who's, you know, one of the major committees that studies this stuff. And he's a great talker even though he gets tongue-tied unfortunately on this because he actually gets

CHAPTER 08 / 24 Discussion

Wesley Clark and Jason Chaffetz, Benghazi Security Debate

General Wesley Clark and Congressman Jason Chaffetz engage in a heated debate on CNN regarding the military response to the Benghazi attack. Chaffetz criticizes the administration for failing to bolster security after prior bombings in June 2012, while Clark defends the President's actions. The segment also touches on the FBI's delayed entry into the site and a CNN reporter discovering Ambassador Stevens' diary on the ground.

wesley clark· jason chaffetz· benghazi· aaron burnett· cnn· fbi

46:22 visibly angry at Clark who's just blah blah blah, oh Obama's great he sent in troops and he actually does say that he sent in troops to Benghazi, gets called out on it and Clark says no no no I never said that I said they sent a Navy ship uh-huh and then he goes on bragging about this Navy ship that's supposed to solve all the world's problems just by because it's got eyes because the Navy ship has I don't even know what the hell he's talking about. He's nuts. In the public affairs business, that's peripheral. What's really important is what the president did. He immediately reinforced security. He sent the military there. He called international leaders and told them to fulfill their responsibilities. No he didn't. General, with all due respect, he did not send the military. He did not send the military. He did not send the military into Benghazi.

47:13 Wait, this is, oh this, they were both on Aaron Burnett's show? Yeah, oh my goodness stunned you didn't see this no. Oh my goodness on the point of what happens It's like my three favorite people in the world. It's like an orgasm atron. I can't believe I didn't see it on that day That's great. Hold on congressman. Let me just ask the general this what about in the days before when? Ambassador Stevens had requested additional security and wasn't given it. Yeah. I think it's a good question And the State Department's gonna have to answer for that

47:53 But that's not the policy question. In other words, when 9-11 happened, America pulled together. But there wasn't a presidential election. But Democrats supported a Republican president. When this happened, the Republican partisan machine decided they'd found a chink in President Obama's excellent foreign policy. China was walking around? What did they find? I'm sorry. It's so obvious. On full board to exploit it for partisan advantage. So it's not to say we can't get to the facts. It's to say it's hard to get through the partisanship to get to the facts. Congressman, why don't you respond to that? Because it is true that there are some real questions here about information that they had in intelligence or in the administration and when that information became available publicly.

48:50 It should be bipartisan outrage because in April 2012 our embassy was bombed, that consulate of Benghazi and on June 6th a terrorist activity there in Benghazi at our consulate breached the wall. They blew our wall apart and the president, the vice president, the secretary... Just to interrupt this just for a moment, it's very interesting how people get very confused as to how to use the phrase blown up blowing up, blown apart. He I think he's... Blowed up is the way I like it. You say blowed up but he said they were blowing, blowed apart I think he said. He said something weird. Yeah he didn't know how to say it either so that's why I mean I use this the country and Western... No I like the blowed up. No I like blowed up but what did he say? He said blew our walled apart.

49:34 He blew our wall to part is what he said. Whereas it's either blew it to bits or blew it apart. I blew our wall to part. I'm sorry, that's great. I would say stop the interview. Listen, Shay Fitz. What do you really mean? The Vice President, the Secretary of State diminished our security profile. That's what's outrageous. General, with all due respect, you've been out there touting the response by the President and what he's done. What he didn't do, what he clearly didn't do, is react when we were bombed on June 6th.

50:11 Five days later, the British ambassador had an assassination attempt. The British got out of town. The Interior Minister in Libya on September 1st issues a warning and says, we've lost control of Eastern Libya. They put him on high alert. Ambassador Stephen sends a call. cable back to Washington DC on September 4th and this administration did nothing. We have four dead Americans and with all due respect he did not send in the military into Benghazi. That firefight went on for hours and I think it's an untold, that's a real question about what this administration did when the firefarts, firefarts, firefarts started. Excuse me, I am going to say this. But it should have been dealing with it back

50:49 in June 6th. We don't know exactly what was done back on June 6th because that hasn't been made a public, a matter of public record. What is this Westcourt, where does he get any of his information from? He's not in the administration, he does a reality show. He's looking for a job. He does a reality show. He doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. back it up because he's just blows smoke here and she and and chavis calls him on it and and he did he just keeps talking like he's not a bit like he's a hypnotized it's weird i think it's an untold uh... that's a real question about what this administration did when the firefighters firefights that firefighter the firefighter firefighters are excuse me i i guess fire for three times

51:33 Hold on, I gotta go back again. It's always funny when people misspeak on television. Fire fart. Hello, I'm here for the fire fart. And I haven't seen that. We had a hearing about this. And I don't know that we've had all the classified information released that's come out, whether you've had a hearing or not. Maybe you had a classified hearing. I haven't seen it. But I do know this. No, we didn't. It was an open public meeting. Okay. I do know this. I do know the administration, the ship, a naval ship, was deported in the area. I know what the capabilities are on that ship and that was sent there to reinforce the diplomatic security. So I'm not going to address what happened in June. I wasn't there in that hearing. The FBI couldn't get in for weeks.

52:26 That's true. The FBI couldn't get in for a week. That's true, but there was security there. You had the CNN reporter go pick up the material. We didn't go in to do that. That was an FBI investigation team. CNN walked in and picked up the diary days afterwards. CNN did, right? And that is because the FBI didn't feel that there was security to come in there. Alright, well gentlemen, thank you very much. Alright, now just imagine, John, for a moment. Imagine you are the father or mother or wife husband or son or daughter or any relative of any of the hundreds of thousands of boys and girls who have either been killed or wounded in these idiotic wars how come we never have this conversation about what happens to them now it's it's for

53:13 Yeah, I know you made this point before, but I gotta keep making it because I think that people are sitting at home and they're throwing up in their mouths when they see this. Well, the other thing is, I mean, if we go back to what's going on in Afghanistan and we remember the Tillman incident, which is Pat Tillman, finally coming out where he apparently was killed by a guy, started off as a young, old guy. Right. He was going to say this is bull crap. And they essentially knocked him out. What we can tell, he was assassinated. a publicity risk. Yes. Yeah, no I mean we assume that but the point is I'm not making a point about these four people or anything else. We have these apologists out there like Wesley Clark who should be ashamed of himself. He's not really a spokesman for the administration and he just, he just, but he's just so dogged with this. Well we don't know anything about it and Chaffetz says yes we do we did a hearing. So well we didn't know if there was classified. No, the

54:13 hearing was public so let me just go back it's unbelievable here here's the thing that that has not come up in conversation yet we had a drone circling this entire thing with its a Why? Because he was waiting for the ambassador to get kidnapped like you and I discussed in day one. That's why we had soldiers on the boat coming down from Italy because they weren't going to come in and do the super rescue. It was going to be the October surprise. This is why all of a sudden Jimmy Carter's kid

54:59 You know, do you think this is all coincidence that Jimmy Carter's kid finds some videotape of Romney? They were standing by as a part of this whole scheme. They were watching this crap live on the drone. They were watching it with the Gorgon stare. This is the fantastic high-res video system that these drones have. It doesn't really matter because the truth will never come out. We'll just have to whistle while we work and say, well at least we know what happened, and have to take some solace with that. It will never ever come out. Maybe when we're 80 and you'll be 87,

55:35 Then maybe, maybe some book will be written with some declassified material. But yeah, and no one will read the book except a few policy wonks. Exactly. The people who always read those books. And now I want to... And by the way, the only reason some of these policy wonks and intelligence guys read these books, just to see if their name is mentioned. Of course, just to see if they're mentioned. Now can I move you towards drones for a second? I just want to say one last thing about this though. I think I knew but I didn't fully know that I didn't realize that the FBI was sent over to investigate they wouldn't go in because they thought it was dangerous and the CNN reporter grabbed the diaries. Yeah, picked up the diary. I forgot about that. That's so funny. Yes, yeah, yeah. It was laying on the ground. Yeah, of course.

CHAPTER 09 / 24 Discussion

Disposition Matrix, Obama and Romney Drone Policy

The "disposition matrix," a database used by the US government to track and target terrorism suspects for capture or killing, is examined following a Washington Post investigation. During a presidential debate, moderator Bob Schieffer and candidate Mitt Romney both signal support for the continued use of drone strikes. The discussion highlights the bipartisan consensus on drone warfare and the lack of critical questioning during the debates.

disposition matrix· washington post· drones· barack obama· mitt romney· bob schieffer

56:22 So anyway, okay go on that's enough of this. Yes now over to the drones this fits in nicely Huge article in the Washington Post and I have just a little bit of the it's such a it's like a year-long investigation if you haven't read it John and It brings up a great new meme a great word for us to use and they even did a little video about it a trailer for this this five page piece by Greg Miller I think his name is And here's just a bit of the trailer for this piece, which you must read. I think I first heard the phrase disposition matrix maybe a little more than a year ago. It goes beyond the kill list that we've known and written about for several years, and it's an attempt to lay out in a grid the US resources that go into pursuing terrorists. So it's not just names and biographies, but what else is the US government doing to try to track these people down?

57:14 What they're really talking about is the disposition of terrorism suspects, whether that's arresting them or, in what appears to be in most cases, killing them. That's right, the drone disposition matrix. Anywhere in the world, we can fire up a drone and come and kill you whenever needed. And you got to read through this thing, John. This is such a huge, massive piece of machinery, this droning system that they've got in place, this disposition matrix, that it's no wonder that on one hand Romney in the debate Well, in fact, I have his quote here about the drones, which I thought was fascinating how it was set up. Here we go. Listen to how Bob Schieffer sets up the questions about drones. Governor, because we know President Obama's position on this, what is your position on the use of drones? Do we really know President Obama's position on the drones? How come Bob Schieffer said that, John?

58:20 Well, that's interesting. That's a great catch. I was like, that's not a great catch. No, that I'm sorry. That was the definition of a great catch. I was like, wow, you know, I mean, we of course, you know, agenda do know his his position on drones. I have two words for you. Predator drones. You will never see it coming. You think I'm joking? Alright, so I guess that's what Bob Schieffer was referring to, that the president is so sexually excited by killing people with drones that he even makes jokes about killing the Jonas Brothers with drones. And here is Romney's opinion.

59:04 Well, I believe that we should use any and all means necessary to take out people who pose a threat to us and our friends around the world. And it's widely reported that drones are being used in drone strikes and I support that entirely and feel the president was right to up the usage of that technology and believe that we should continue to use it to continue to go after the people who represent a threat to this nation. And to our friends. And there you have it. Yeah, but he still went to the president for the question about drones. Well, keep in mind, our strategy wasn't just going after Bin Laden. What? He didn't even use a drone on Bin Laden! We've created partnerships throughout the region. Well, he just slipped the Bin Laden thing in gratuitously. Yeah. In extremism. In Somalia, in Yemen, in Pakistan.

59:51 And what we've also done is engage these governments in the kind of reforms that are actually going to make a difference in people's lives day to day. Yeah, blah, blah, blah. So he didn't answer the question about drones. He was given a complete free pass by Schieffer, A, by saying, well, we already know what the president thinks. And then when he didn't answer the question, Schieffer didn't say, oh, excuse me, how about the drones. You are killing people with the drones. You're killing people. So, you know, there was like, there was, that was really horrible moderation. But of course, Bob Schieffer is also the guy that said this, because you talked about Pakistan and what needs to be done there. General Allen.

CHAPTER 10 / 24 Discussion

Xbox 360 Debate Poll, Debbie Wasserman Schultz Kill List Query

A live poll conducted via Xbox 360 during the presidential debate showed 72% support for increased drone usage among 20,000 participants. In a separate interaction, DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz is questioned by a "We Are Change" activist regarding President Obama's "kill list." Schultz denies knowledge of such a list, dismissing the inquiry as not being a "serious question."

xbox 360· debbie wasserman schultz· drones· polling· kill list· dnc

1:00:30 Our commander in Afghanistan says that Americans continue to die at the hands of groups who are supported by Pakistan. We know that Pakistan has arrested the doctor who helped us catch Obama's bin Laden. It still provides safe haven for terrorists. I thought I was going to pee my pants. And I watched the debate on C-SPAN, which, and we'll get to this in a second, which only had the split screen, which is significant. But before we get to that, after the debate, I think it was MSNBC talked to former New York Governor George Pataki who was a total stooge and here it comes. I was just watching the comment Lawrence and I think we saw two different debates. He agreed on drones and I think the American people agree on drones. What about the withdrawal from... What? Now this is getting silly. The American people agree on drones?

1:01:32 Where's this information coming from perhaps? How about this? I don't even know that's ever been surveyed. Ah, well just out today, conveniently. Oh! Throughout Monday night's final debate between President Obama and hopeful Mitt Romney, viewers watching it on their Xbox 360 consoles were allowed to participate in a live poll. And this was 20,000 people, so this is not a small poll. No, but it's self-selecting with the Xbox. Duh, but this is now the news. So one asked, do you support more use of drone aircraft to attack suspected terrorists? How many percent responded yes, John? What do you think? I would say 75%. Wow! 72%.

1:02:18 Of course these are the same losers who sit there flying their pretend drones and flying flight simulator on the Xbox. By the way, think about it, if you want a high number, that idea is genius. It's beautiful. But now it's news. Find a bunch of Nintendo or Xbox users and ask them. And now it's news. Now it's news. I got a whole other thing from Morning Joe on drones. And by the way, you know, you should go to that. But let me just say a lot of this is presented, isn't presented probably if you presented it as a, as drones being a threat to you.

1:02:59 Yeah, you get a different and they are well here's a would you like think your city police should have these drones in your neighborhood Yeah, flying over your house you flying over your house. So it's oh here's a One of the the guys from we are change org went up to Debbie Wasserman Schultz now if you don't know who Debbie Wasserman Schultz is uh... she is the uh... the the chairwoman the chairperson of the democratic national committee so she's kind of in charge of all the the democrats and she's just annoying and is there any other way to do it this and if you can see extremely annoying what what's the name of this website again the change that we are changed we are changing the change did you not gonna have this video on their i don't think i will look at it well we are changes kind of like a precursor to

1:03:51 It's like a part of the Ron Paul movement in a way, I'd say precursor to that, so it's been around. But they get into good events, this guy, I forget his name, you can look it up in the show notes, 455.nashownotes.com, and he asked Debbie Wasserman Schultz a very poignant question about the drones and the kill list. President Barack Obama's secret kill list. This is going to be debated. How do you think Romney will handle this kill list and are you comfortable with him having a kill list? I have no idea what you're talking about. Obama has a secret kill list which he has used to assassinate different people all over the world. I'm happy to answer any serious questions you have. Why is that not serious? Because I have no idea what you're talking about.

1:04:28 Of course you don't. I don't know about no kill list. I like that line. I don't know about no kill list. Yeah, of course you don't. I don't know about no kill list. The morning joke, I'll save that for Sunday because it's rather long. I'd rather get kind of into the debate for a second because I picked up I saw a tweeter from you saying that, you know, there wasn't all that much and maybe we shouldn't discuss that much. But before we get to the actual television coverage, which I know I'm dying to talk about with you, a couple choice clips from the debate itself. First of all, President Obama's military plan surprised me somewhat. But when it comes to our military, what we have to think about is not just budgets. We've got to think about capabilities.

CHAPTER 11 / 24 Discussion

Presidential Debate Analysis, Horses and Bayonets Zinger

Analysis of the final 2012 presidential debate focuses on President Obama's "horses and bayonets" retort to Mitt Romney's concerns about the size of the US Navy. The hosts suggest the line was a pre-rehearsed "zinger" that came across as condescending. The segment also notes that the debate competed for viewership with the World Series and Monday Night Football, potentially limiting its impact on swing voters.

presidential debate· navy· barack obama· mitt romney· zinger· military spending

1:03:51 It's like a part of the Ron Paul movement in a way, I'd say precursor to that, so it's been around. But they get into good events, this guy, I forget his name, you can look it up in the show notes, 455.nashownotes.com, and he asked Debbie Wasserman Schultz a very poignant question about the drones and the kill list. President Barack Obama's secret kill list. This is going to be debated. How do you think Romney will handle this kill list and are you comfortable with him having a kill list? I have no idea what you're talking about. Obama has a secret kill list which he has used to assassinate different people all over the world. I'm happy to answer any serious questions you have. Why is that not serious? Because I have no idea what you're talking about.

1:04:28 Of course you don't. I don't know about no kill list. I like that line. I don't know about no kill list. Yeah, of course you don't. I don't know about no kill list. The morning joke, I'll save that for Sunday because it's rather long. I'd rather get kind of into the debate for a second because I picked up I saw a tweeter from you saying that, you know, there wasn't all that much and maybe we shouldn't discuss that much. But before we get to the actual television coverage, which I know I'm dying to talk about with you, a couple choice clips from the debate itself. First of all, President Obama's military plan surprised me somewhat. But when it comes to our military, what we have to think about is not just budgets. We've got to think about capabilities.

1:05:21 We need to be thinking about cyber security. We need to be thinking about space. Oh really? Now does this not immediately validate my cuckoo theory about space wars? Doesn't validate your space wars thing at all. He wants to have... But I can see where you'd think that. Well what's our space thing? We have to be thinking about cyber and space. I don't know. Come on! I don't know what he's talking about with cyber. I think he's just blowing smoke. I think he's just saying these words. He's throwing words out. Did you hear him throw this one out? The central question. Did you hear him do that? Yeah. I thought that was genius that he threw out the central question. But there was a setup. Once again, there had to be a

1:06:06 How do you have a central question? Is it in the middle of something or what does that even mean? Well, you want to hear the whole answer? Let's see. Yeah, I want to hear what the central question is. Well, he did actually have a central question. Well, that's a central question at this point is going to be who was going to be credible to all parties involved. They can look at my track record whether it's Iran sanctions whether it's dealing with counterterrorism Whether it's supporting democracy whether it's supporting women's rights whether it's supporting religious minorities And they can say that the president United States and the United States of America has stood on the right side of history So I didn't do you know what the central question is yeah? Yeah, who's more credible him or Romney? That's the central question

1:06:58 So there was a tell in of course the ZINGER! This is what our debates have come down to in America. Besides the fact that these are staged sideshows, we can only talk- wait, we're just waiting for- where's the zinger? Where's the zinger? Was that always called a zinger, John? A zinger? I think the zinger term goes back into the early 1900s, yeah. A zinger. Let me look at the etymology of zinger. I know I've heard it since I was a little kid. Well, I think it's become more popular. Early 1900s. No, it says here, cruel quip. Earlier it was baseball slang for a fastball in 1957, but 1970 apparently is when the phrase zinger came to be. News to me, okay. Well, that's the etymology.

1:07:55 at at at Molon online.com there may be a there may be a better let me see this is the dictionary.com they may have a better version of it that's okay I think all right so do you did you watch the be get the pre-debate when they when the heads of the debate committee came out can I do my zinger first oh yeah zinger So here's the setup for the zinger, but Obama makes a mistake which tells me that this was rehearsed and he was waiting for it and... And then he botched it? I don't think Obama botched it. I don't think he botched it really, other than it was dumb and childish. Excuse me, our Navy is smaller now than any time since 1917. Okay, so Romney said, and by the way, he's got all kinds of buddies who build ships, which was Miss Mickey's immediate observation. Why is he talking about the Navy? Does he build ships now? Like, yeah, probably. So Obama comes back. What was the year again, John?

1:08:55 What? This is 2012. No, the year that Romney just mentioned in that clip. I don't remember. Geez! You're in the debate! He's talking about the World War I or something. Excuse me, our Navy is smaller now than any time since 1917. Now you're in the debate and you hear him say that. Are you gonna answer with 1917? Oh, I see what you're saying. ...and less secure. Bob, I just need to comment on this. First of all, the sequester is not something that I proposed. It's something that Congress has proposed. It will not happen. the budget that we're talking about is not reducing our military spending it's maintaining it but i think governor romney maybe hasn't spent enough time looking at how our military works you mentioned the navy for example and that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916 so i think that oh that's very you know i missed that he was he was ready for it it was rehearsed because this joke

1:09:50 This is not something, I'm sorry, your president is just not this good. This was written and it was written well, but the way he delivered it would have been great on the Tonight Show or on Letterman or Jon Stewart, but not in the debate. He came across as a total condescending a-hole. Well Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets. because the nature of our military... Audience violation! You laughed, you made a noise, audience violation, be quiet! ...has changed. We have these things called aircraft carriers where planes land on them. We have these ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines. And so the question... I think it's very condescending. I mean, the horses and bayonets, okay, that was a funny line, but

1:10:37 But then they continued to follow on with the aircraft. Yeah, and it was written and he blew it. I think he blew it by doing that and I think that again you've got these, this is why I'm saying that this was not a good debate for the president. Well, you know, I disagree. These debates at this point, for one thing, they had both a World Series game and Monday Night Football take 20 million people away from this audience immediately. And those are essentially the people who are the swing voters because, you know, they're just normal people. All you have left... Wait a minute, what do you mean normal people?

1:11:18 Normal people watch football and baseball when they have a chance, if given a choice between watching these two assholes and watching a good sporting event. That is especially the World Series, or I think it was the playoffs game. Well then let's put it this way, then these were probably people who had jobs. And they probably did have jobs. But here's the point, it's playing to the audience. I mean, if you watched, and I tried to watch both sides of this, and I do it. If you watch current TV or MSNBC, oh he's so funny and he had that line and Romney didn't know what to do about it and he made Romney look like an idiot. He had the Ed Schultz's of the world going, oh Romney was taken to the cleaners by Obama. It knocked me out! And then you had the same thing in the opposite way on Fox. There is nobody that watched this thing. This was a meaningless event.

CHAPTER 12 / 24 Discussion

Debate Television Production, Split Screen Visual Techniques

The technical production of the presidential debates is scrutinized, specifically the use of split-screen shots where candidates appear to look away from each other. The hosts analyze how cross-camera angles and chair heights are used to manipulate the perceived physical stature of the candidates. They suggest these production choices are intentional efforts by networks to influence viewer perception of the candidates' authority.

television production· c-span· split screen· camera angles· abc news· visual bias

1:12:17 Now the thing that was interesting that we picked up on and a couple of our producers emailed us about this and I noticed this immediately because again what I watched the C-SPAN feed which is not a great television event because they don't switch all they do is they show you a split screen Romney left Obama right. The split screen was mostly used on the other things too. Let me back up then. The problem that we had, if you, because I looked at this during the first debate and in the first debate they had two different feeds, they had a couple of different kinds of feeds. and and people were using one of the two and they and the there was a full view of everything that was used on C-SPAN and PBS and then all the networks used the split screen. I think somewhere along the line they decided that you want to consolidate to one look and everybody had this. Can I ask you a Curry Dvorak consulting group question because here's something I don't understand in the split screen. It is a

1:13:18 It is almost a an unwritten maybe it even is a written rule in television programming production and broadcasting. If you're doing a split screen you do not have the two subjects looking out of screen but you have them looking into the screen. Why is this consistently done differently in these debates? Why are they looking away from each other instead of towards each other? Which is the natural way that they are actually sitting? Well for one thing they're they got him on the screen in the way they're they're sitting but I think they're shooting cross camera. Well they are but they don't have to do that. No no they're not shooting cross camera. No I think that yeah no they have

1:13:59 They're not shooting cross-camera, otherwise you would have what I'm talking about. No, no, what you just said, they have to be shooting cross-camera to get that effect. You have to run it to be looking... No, no, think again. No, you're incorrect. But they are shooting it from different angles. No, no, here, let's take a look at the desk. Now you have Romney on the left and Obama on the right, and Schieffer in the middle. If you have a straight on shot of Romney from looking at Schieffer or looking at Obama, he's going to be looking toward the middle. And the same thing with Obama. Oh, I'm sorry, you're right, you're right. It's an extreme cross is what it is.

1:14:35 Yeah, they got these guys, these are the cameras that are way off stage and they're zoomed in. Extreme cross, you're right, you're right, I'm wrong. So it's an unnatural, it's a very unnatural way to watch because you see them come in, you see that they're looking at each other in real life, but they're looking away from each other in the video. Why is this decision made? Well, I think the reason is because there's only for one thing that this one was done by ABC, by the way. But all the debates have been been this way, John, all of them. Yeah, I know. And here's why I think I think they're trying to make Obama look bigger than he is. Well, this is what we noticed. Yeah. So you have to have the cameras off.

1:15:11 off axis, they can't be anywhere really, you can't have three cameras lined up right down the gut. So you have these two cameras way off axis and those are the two cameras that come in on the split screen shots. And then when you go to one, all of a sudden you go to the Schieffer shot, then you can call for a full desk shot from the left camera that is positioned low so you end up with Obama looking bigger at a distance than and

1:15:56 by virtue of the way they set up these things. Yeah, because they changed the chair height so the two head should be exactly at the same level if you put a ruler on your screen and it's not. Obama's head is higher. And in reality, Obama's head is I think probably two hat sizes smaller than Romney's. The guy is a small head. Yeah, he doesn't have the big giant head like Romney does. The big water head. Clutch, clutch. Wait, hold on. I'm Romney. Oh, it doesn't work on the noise gate anyway. I mean that's the problem with all this stuff. I mean they were almost shut down on this debate because the guy came out the beginning from the debate council and he went on about it, you know, they were going to have an injunction against the debate by some sort of some candidate who's wisely decided against it at the last minute so we're having the debate they were actually going to shut this thing down and it was obviously... What injunction? For what reason? On what grounds?

CHAPTER 13 / 24 Discussion

Constitutional Responsibility, Early Voting and Machine Glitches

A critique of both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney argues that neither candidate correctly identifies the President's primary job as defending the Constitution. The segment also covers reports of early voting glitches in North Carolina, where a voter claimed a machine switched a vote from Romney to Obama. The hosts discuss the institutionalization of early voting and its implications for election integrity.

constitution· early voting· voter fraud· north carolina· voting machines· gary johnson

1:16:58 Because they wouldn't let our friend Gary Johnson in the debate. Oh, okay. Well, good luck with that. That was never gonna happen. No, but apparently they was pretty close to shutting down the debate. It was close. I would have given Romney a lot of points, but he did exactly what the president has done before. And this shows me that neither of the... We already heard the president make this, I call it a mistake. And now Romney did it. So neither of... Both of these gentlemen are constitutionally unqualified to lead this country. Here's Romney's version of why. It is the highest responsibility of the President of the United States, which is to maintain the safety of the American people. That is not the highest responsibility of the President of the United States.

1:17:47 It is not the number one priority, it is not what you are set out to be. The number one job of the President of the United States is to uphold and defend the Constitution. Both these guys do not say that. No, they'll never will because these two guys are essentially rogues. which has been the case with all the recent presidents. And by the way, I should mention my daughter, who's up in college, she in Oregon, she said that all the students have voted already. Yeah, early voting. Sure. They have a lot of early voting. And and says that she voted for Gary Johnson. Good. And I said, wow, that's pretty interesting. And then she said the kicker was apparently all the kids did.

1:18:36 Explain how this early voting works. I don't understand it. It makes no sense to me. I think it's if we're probably while we're all talking about voter fraud is actually happening now because we're not looking at it. Has this always been this way where you can just go and vote whenever you want? In California, you've always been able to file what's called an absentee ballot. Yes, okay. And an absentee ballot is early voting. So now that's been institutionalized in some states. Right, but it doesn't get counted. It gets counted? What do you mean it doesn't get counted? It doesn't get counted until election day.

1:19:13 Well, that's what they say. So, but an absentee ballot is... so you're telling me... Now let me finish. Okay. So in Washington State, they've institutionalized this so essentially, and by the way there was a rumor going around the country that Romney's son has been buying up all the uh... voting machine companies yeah which is bogus and then they named the states and washington was one of them. Washington hasn't used the voting machine ever. Washington is essentially mail-in votes. Well listen to this so if that were really true explain this report. Some say if they didn't double check their work their vote would not have counted. Good evening thank you for being with us early voting of course in full swing

1:20:05 But this evening we're hearing about some concerns inside the voting booth. That's right, election leaders, they're saying it's not a big deal, just simple tweaks needed on some machines. Our Brandon Jones joins us live tonight in Greensboro. And Brandon, you talked with a voter who says she punched her choice for president several times before the machine even accepted it. Yeah, that's right, Neil. Sheryl Crow Mollis told us that she cast her vote for Governor Romney, but every time she did, it went for President Obama. Now, the Guilford County Board of Elections... So that's Romney's son did a good job on that one. Hey, hey, boss! Our theory was they've always been trying to blow the election up. Hey, boss, this is proof of our theory! Hey, boss, I did it! Boss, dad, boss, I got, I got, I rigged the voting machines. Yeah, so when they vote for you, boss, dad, then they go to Obama. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

1:20:54 So early voting thing, you know, this is really great for our show. We should have more presidential elections. I have more. I have more. Did you watch the third party debates? No, I did not. Oh, no that is why should I watch it? I've got my I've made my selection well, then let me play the best I was surprised What's the guy O'Donnell on see on MSNBC Chris O'Donnell Lance Lance O'Donnell Lance O'Donnell Larry maybe it's Larry That's Larry. Yeah, Larry Larry O'Donnell that guy he's a total douchebag well when you hear what he had to say and

CHAPTER 14 / 24 Discussion

Larry O'Donnell on NDAA, Third Party Exclusion, Electoral College

MSNBC host Larry O'Donnell criticizes the exclusion of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and its indefinite detention provisions from the major party debates. O'Donnell argues that the two-party system and the Electoral College disenfranchise voters in non-swing states. John Dvorak predicts that the Electoral College will eventually be abolished in favor of a popular vote to satisfy media advertising interests.

larry o'donnell· ndaa· msnbc· electoral college· third parties· gary johnson

1:21:40 And the piece he did on the third party elections, it was like he's going to hell but he still wanted to try and maybe, maybe on the off chance he could get maybe just a visit to heaven on weekends. And imagine if Congress passed a bill that the president signed that allowed indefinite detention without charge or trial. That would be issue one at any presidential debate, wouldn't it? The media's favorite debate moderator, Martha Raddatz, would have forced a full discussion of that one at the vice presidential debate, wouldn't she?

1:22:16 Well, Congress did pass that law last year and President Obama signed it and he never mentioned it on his list of accomplishments in any of the debates. And he was never asked about it, not by the media's second favorite debate moderator, Candy Crowley, and not by Mitt Romney. It never came up at the two-party presidential debates. No one pressed the president on how he could possibly sign a bill like that into law and no one pressed Mitt Romney about why repealing that law is not on his day one list. If that law worries you, if it concerns you in any way,

1:22:55 Your concern, your interest in that law is not represented by either of the two major parties. But at last night's debate, that law was called the very definition of tyranny. That spells tyranny. It's the very definition of tyranny. I would have vetoed the National Defense Authorization Act allowing for you and I as U.S. citizens to be arrested and detained without being charged. This is unlawful. and is a basic offense against the very foundation of American liberty. And it should be repealed. One sentence answer, Larry, if I were president, I would have vetoed NDAA. This is pretty good so far. I mean, this is an actual Larry O'Donnell piece on MSNBC. In the instantly immortal words of Larry King, we're on drugs.

1:23:55 The media is feeding you a drug called the two-party system. Big media is incapable of covering a political landscape that is more complicated than the two-party system. Big media does not have the resources or the interest or the intellectual capacity to cover something more complicated than the two-party system. but that's bullshit, they do have the resources. Yeah, of course they do. He's just peeing, someone peed in his Cheerios or something, I don't know, he's like, maybe he didn't get a raise. Two-party system and the electoral college have conspired to make most voters feel irrelevant. Wait a minute, is Larry O'Donnell a conspiracy theorist? Is he, is he, he's talking about conspiring now? To the outcome of the presidential election.

1:24:42 The major party candidates ignore most states and they ignore most voters most of the time and then we act surprised. He goes into this whole tirade about how they only campaign in eight states and no one gives a crap and I think what he's trying to do is say that the entire idea of the electoral college is a broken system. I think that's interesting because I wrote a I wrote a column that I actually published on the blog and I'll link to it in the next newsletter. And what I claimed, and I got nothing but grief for this by the way, bull crap, nobody's there. But with my- Wait a minute, let me see, is that comment number four? Most comments. Bull crap, they have it, yeah. My argument is that at some point, the media itself, because it's so greedy,

1:25:35 And it needs so much advertising money that the media in those any of those states like California and these other states where we don't get any of the big money for the campaigns because it's all being spent in Ohio or Virginia or wherever there's a business. We get none of it. well i don't see i have not seen one advertisement for romney or obama this whole time you don't see it here in texas either i mean is that that's obvious money that could be that's money that could be spent here that's not being spent here and they're going to kill eventually and this is just one of the forays this guy here he's a stooge for all this stuff they're going to kill the electoral electoral college because it's not

1:26:16 That is not, the money's not being spread around evenly. And that's what's going to happen. It's a foregone conclusion. So that's not a good thing then, because the electoral college is part of the system that is supposed to work very well for us. The electoral college is set up to be a kind of a, in case everything goes crazy and Hitler's elected, they can say, no, Hitler's not elected. It's a check. It's a... Oh, it's a poison pill is what you're saying. Well, it's not even a poison pill, but it is designed to prevent some sort of abuse. And... So that they can... It's a goner. I... Hold on, hold on, hold on. I just want to understand. I just want to understand. So the electoral college, and the way I understand it to work is, so if blue wins, then they will all, the electoral college will go, oh, it's blue.

1:27:11 But that is only their honor bound obligation if they feel that blue is Hitler then they can say oh no no it's red is that what you're saying? Technically they can do that. That's a pretty good system but we need to become electorates. What are they called? Electoral dudes? I don't know how you get that job. Electrolytes. We have to become them. Electrolytes. How do you become an electrolyte? It's probably a drinking club that we can't get into. Whatever the case. Whatever the case the way it works now is that California you know you know in advance that California's gonna vote for Obama no matter what yeah and so all the California electoral votes will go to Obama and so there's no reason to advertise here trying to get some of those votes because you it's a winner-take-all right California all the votes go and so then all and so there's only a few states where it's up for grabs right and that's where all the money goes and I just don't see media putting up with this forever it's like there's money being I mean I would want if I

1:28:09 Got any common sense? I'm buying a newspaper in Ohio and just doing a crappy newspaper and then when election time comes I'm soaking up as much money as I can. I mean that's smart money. Why would I want a newspaper in California if I can't get any money? So then what is your predicted outcome just so I understand exactly? The Electoral College will be abolished for a popular vote. Huh. Yeah, once there's a popular vote then everyone, they have to advertise everywhere. You really think that's going to happen? That's such a, that's, I mean, that's not happening tomorrow, but that's exactly what Larry O'Donnell was talking about. That's what I thought was so funny is that Larry O'Donnell, Lawrence, yeah.

1:28:50 We'll call him Larry. Leslie. Leslie O'Donnell, because it's such an in-between name. Leslie O'Donnell is saying this because of the whole money situation. He doesn't give a crap about the third parties. The rest of his entire tirade is all about, I vote in California, no one cares, my vote doesn't count. Yeah, he represents media. Yeah. Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. You know, he plays his role as a left-wing, you know, everybody, all Republicans should die. I mean, essentially, Ed Schultz is the best at this, by the way. And then he gets paid a good salary and he goes home and he, you know, beats his wife. I mean, I don't know what he does. Oh, John, hey, you know what? You got to be very careful because in the United Kingdom, if you say that, you can be arrested. Yeah, I know. In fact... Shut up!

CHAPTER 15 / 24 Discussion

UK Free Speech Restrictions, Social Media Arrests

Several instances of arrests in the United Kingdom for social media posts and T-shirt slogans highlight tightening restrictions on free speech. Cases include a man jailed for an anti-police T-shirt and individuals prosecuted for "crude jokes" on Twitter and Facebook. The hosts discuss how "being mean" or using offensive nicknames is becoming criminalized under the guise of preventing bullying and harassment.

united kingdom· free speech· facebook· twitter· manchester· arrests

1:29:43 Let's move on to another topic here because this is by the way no none of these guys beat their wives because I don't think they have enough I don't even think they're married Sorry, sorry went off the track. Yeah, so there's a lot to apologize There's a lot going on here in in in Britain where the the United Nations? evil Plan is already in effect people are now being arrested and put in jail for telling abhorrent jokes on Facebook for wearing anti-police t-shirts and just being mean

1:30:20 Oh, for just being mean you can be thrown in jail? Well let me give you three examples. That sounds like a very pleasant place to visit. Let me give you three examples and then we'll go into this document that I've read which is, I don't think we will celebrate another five years of this show. Let's put it that way. So here is the first one. On October 11, Barry Thew, a 39-year-old man from Manchester, was sentenced to eight months in jail for the crime of wearing a t-shirt that said, one less pig, perfect justice. Now this was, he wore this shirt a few hours after two police officers were shot dead in Manchester on September 18th. What's he eating? Sorry? Oh. Well, so, you know, it's not nice.

1:31:08 But he wore this t-shirt that said, One Less Pig, Perfect Justice, and he was arrested and now has been convicted to 8 months in jail for wearing this t-shirt. T-shirt. Um, October 8th, Matthew Woods, a teenager from Lancashire, was jailed for 3 months for writing a joke on his Facebook page. A five-year-old Welsh girl called April Jones was missing and Matthew Woods decided to make some jokes about it, writing on his Facebook stuff like, quote, who in their right mind would abduct a ginger kid? Yes. It's not nice.

1:31:45 No, it's not nice. It's not nice. You get some this sick hatred for redheads that you find in the... In Britain. In England, Britain. That's because they hate the Irish and the Irishmen and Scots. Right, but the whole thing is whack. Yeah, no, I get the joke. It's just sick. Yeah, so you can't do sick jokes. July 17th, a 17-year-old boy was arrested and questioned by police after he sent insulting tweets to British Olympic diver Tom Daley. The 17-year-old was spared jail but issued a harassment warning. And in March, a 21-year-old student Liam Stacey was sentenced to 56 days in jail for making crude jokes on Twitter about a then very ill footballer called Fabrice Mwamba.

1:32:32 So, none of this that I'm hearing here is really socially acceptable that these people are doing. Hold on, what is this? Go away. Don't you know I have a show? My fifth anniversary show? Douche. That's the guy who always gets me the voiceover auditions. It's obvious how involved he is in my career. I thought it was Rachel from card services. Yeah, right. So none of this is socially acceptable or nice, but it is now illegal in the United Kingdom. And was it not, was it not, who said,

1:33:08 You know, about your right to free speech, even though I disagree with what you say, I will defend your right to say it to the death. Was that Francis Bacon or who was that? No, no, it wasn't Francis Bacon. Peter O'Toole? I don't know. Someone said. We do the same. We don't do this. We do a different version of this. I mean, we use political pressure. I think. Hold on, though. Hold on. Because now using nicknames is now going to be deemed a form of bullying which also will be deemed illegal. And I know why this is... In Britain? Oh yeah! Depending on the nickname. Like calling Hillary Clinton Lucifer? I'm telling you, this is knock time. That's a compliment. It's a step up. It's a step up from the hell spawn that she really is. So there's this new document came out

1:33:56 Which and and you know we've talked about it. You call somebody four eyes. Hey four eyes. Come over here with the ball. It's all of this is going to be outlawed. It will become illegal. It will John. It will. But certainly the Lucifer or Carl. How about douchebag. Do you think that... Oh the douchebag thing is totally over. It's total violation of all... Can you imagine if I say, hey the Prime Minister of Britain, David Cameron is a douchebag. Yeah, you'd get thrown in jail. I can get thrown in jail. I can be refused access to the country. This is like England in the 1400s. Yeah, but this is coming from the United Nations and the harmonization of international law. We've spoken about Agenda 21.

CHAPTER 16 / 24 Discussion

UNODC Document, Internet for Terrorist Purposes, Global Law Harmonization

A 158-page document from the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) outlines strategies for member states to harmonize laws regarding the "terrorist use of the internet." The document classifies propaganda, financing, and training as key terrorist activities, while suggesting that "legitimate advocacy" is a subjective assessment. The hosts warn that these guidelines will lead to global crackdowns on dissent and "xenophobic" speech online.

unodc· ban ki-moon· agenda 21· cybercrime· propaganda· terrorism

1:34:39 And agenda 21 is this huge document which John I believe you recently just printed it out just for chits and giggles and you build a room you can wallpaper the bathroom with it and it is not law per se But it is a guideline that then there are committees in every single country that is a member of the United Nations, which is all the important ones, and they use this as guidelines and it propagates. And these people are so hypnotized and they love their little government jobbies so much because what else are you going to do but just boff whatever, that it becomes law after a while. So there is the

1:35:17 internet version of Agenda 21 and this document is a hundred and fifty-eight pages and after forty pages I gave up and said we don't have enough show in the universe to read everything that is so messed up about this document from the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, the UNODC. The document is the use of the internet for terrorist purposes. But it's very important that the use of the internet, little subline, for terrorist purposes. And I do need to read a couple of things I've highlighted for your pleasure, John, because this will show... Now, this document is a mixture of case law, jurisprudence, and suggestive legislative language.

1:36:20 So this goes beyond what Agenda 21 does. This actually says, in this country, like Britain, this is illegal, that is illegal, that is illegal. We need to harmonize that so that everyone adheres to the same rules because of course the internet is one global network. So this is, I'm showing you now, hear me now, believe me later, there will be no October 26, 2017 because we will not be on the air with this program. I hate to say it, but it's not going to happen. Just right off the bat, the introduction on the inside cover of this brochure, a statement from Ban Ki-moon, Secretary General. The internet is a prime example of how terrorists can behave in a truly transnational way. In response, states need to think and function in an equally transnational manner. Now think about what he's saying there.

1:37:16 Because the internet is global, we have to think and function in an equally global manner, which means harmonize all the rules. United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime plays a key role in providing assistance to member states in furtherance of its mandate to strengthen the capacity of national criminal justice systems. Are you following me here, John? Yeah, so they set up a working group, the Working Group on Countering the Use of the Internet for Terrorist Purposes of the Counterterrorism Implementation Task Force, which somewhere my invitation must have gotten lost in the mail. It's aimed at coordinating the activities of the United Nations systems in support of the United Nations' global counterterrorist strategy. And here it comes.

1:38:05 Member states resolved, which means agreed, to coordinate efforts at the international and regional levels to counter terrorism in all its forms and manifestations on the Internet and use the Internet as a tool for countering the spread of terrorism while recognizing that states may require assistance in this regard. Here comes the cavalry, but they're wearing black outfits. They're coming to get you on the internet. They're using the internet to combat terrorism. But what exactly is terrorism? John, do you think we could define means by which the internet is utilized by terrorist groups? For instance, what is the number one way the internet is used for terrorist groups according to this document?

1:38:51 Email? In fact, email is number three, but let's start with propaganda. Propaganda is number one! Primary use of the internet by terrorists is for dissemination of propaganda. Propaganda generally takes the form of multimedia communications, providing ideological or practical instruction, explanations, justification, or promotion of terrorist activities. These may include... We have a pancake breakfast for you terrorists on Sunday. It's a two-for-one. We got pancakes with a fried egg on top. These may include virtual messages, presentations, magazines, treatises, audio and video files, and video games developed by terrorist organizations or sympathizers. You can be a sympathizer, you see.

1:39:43 Nevertheless, what constitutes terrorist propaganda as opposed to legitimate advocacy of a viewpoint is often a subjective assessment. Further, the dissemination of propaganda is generally not in and of itself a prohibited activity. However, other exclusions, oh here it is, one commonly accepted exclusion with respect to the right to freedom of expression Is the prohibition against the distribution of certain categories of sexually explicit content, certain categories, they don't even mention which ones. The prohibition of which is deemed to be in the public interest in order to protect certain vulnerable groups. Wow, what could that be? It could be anything.

1:40:31 Yeah, but they're hinting at it as kiddie porn. Yeah, other exclusions, all of which must be provided for by law and shown to be necessary, may include communications that are clearly detrimental to the protection of national security and communications that are both intended and likely to incite acts of violence against individuals or specific groups of individuals. I, you know, this, how can you define these things? Well, it's not like... You can't. Well, give us, just give us the list. What was the number two item? Ah, geez. That, well, that was number two.

1:41:06 No, I thought it was propaganda was number one and that sounded like propaganda. Well, this is no, these are the sub points of propaganda. You know what I want to know the three main things propaganda what's number two? Okay, hold on I'm going down. If email's number three, what's number two? Well, no, no, well email was that a specific number two is financing. This is how they take away our donations. Online payment facilities offered through dedicated websites or communication platforms make it easy to transfer funds electronically between parties. Alright, well these guys are crazy. Funds transferred often made by electronic wire transfer. Here it is, credit card. Alternative payment facilities such as PayPal or Skype.

1:41:47 Apparently, oh you can't know that's interesting Skype has a payment facility. I didn't know that uh-huh So these guys are so on top of things that Skype somehow is a payment facility Can you tell me where that payment facility can be found Adam? It was it's right near the call button, which you can't find either number three is training I thought number three was email no no I'm getting to email that was a subsection number three is training The platforms of the internet act as a virtual training camp. Now this, okay I've had enough of this. These guys are just lunatics. Yeah but they've got all this, they've got all of the jurisprudence. We have to fight this bullcrap from the get-go. Jeez. Can I just say preparatory secret communications which is number 22 under point three

1:42:38 Here it is. A simple online email account may be used by terrorists for electronic or virtual dead-dropping of communications. Oh, please. This refers to the creation of a draft message which remains unsent and therefore leaves minimal electronic traces, but which may be accessed from any internet terminal worldwide by multiple individuals with a relevant password. Dread dead dropping of email messages. Oh, yeah guys been watching too many movies well it's a hundred and thirty-eight pages of it and you know it's about the size of a two-hour script and it's Two hours and ten minutes to be exact. Well. It's this is you're going to see that this is going to become law I'll just do the last one point sixty four

1:43:27 The Council of Europe, these are the guys who can help you out with it, have also elaborated the additional protocol to the Convention on Cybercrime, which we're a member of, John, concerning the criminalization of acts of a racist and xenophobic nature committed through computer systems. This is where it's going to be really bad. This additional protocol may also facilitate the prosecution of terrorist acts committed by the interwebs with the intention of inciting violence on the basis of race, color, descent, national ethnic origin or religion. The additional protocol is open to all contracting states of the Council of Europe, the European Convention on Cybercrime. So you're not going to be able to... basically you're going to be able to say if you go online and you want to post something, you'll be able to say, government is great.

1:44:13 That's my that's about it. That's my room is our government is fantastic. I've got a blog post today Government rocks. I ate a cheese sandwich while thinking about how great our government is Hey, by the way, so I thought that that they the big attack against his Murdoch bonehead You know the congressman who says well, you know as we're doing from God when a rape woman gets a baby His name is Murdoch Murduk. Yeah. He, he, uh, and I do have the clip. I thought that the guy may or may not be seen as an idiot, but he has the right to think that and say it. And I just right in line with the rest of this and everybody, you know, is all over him as some sort of an evil person. He just has an opinion. Well, it's, it's being set up the wrong way, but yeah, we'll listen to the clip. Though we can't show. Oops, sorry.

CHAPTER 17 / 24 Discussion

Richard Mourdock Rape Comments, White House Staffing Rumors

Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock faces backlash for comments regarding abortion and rape, stating that life resulting from such circumstances is "something that God intended." The hosts view the controversy as political theater. Additionally, rumors are discussed suggesting that White House staffers are already interviewing for jobs in Chicago in anticipation of a potential administration change.

richard mourdock· indiana· abortion· rape· white house· chicago

1:45:07 This is that issue that every candidate for federal or even state office faces. But a new distraction for Romney cropped up in Indiana, where Richard Murdoch, the Republican candidate for Senate, made jaws drop with his comments on why abortion should be outlawed in the case of rape. I came to realize life is that gift from God and I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen. This fall, I'm supporting Richard Murdoch for Senate. And by the way, if you heard that, they clipped the Romney thing, right? This is CNN, by the way, the Wolf Blitzer. Let's stick it to Romney. Of course, it's possible that this is set up again because I think they're still trying to blow the election, but that's just me. Oh, you think that it may be? Well, because he actually did

1:45:55 The only time you turn around one of these idiots shows up with some commentary like this and I think he has every right in the world to feel this way about anything he wants to and I and I think that what people didn't Wasserman Schultz by the way was the biggest complainer about this he Romney should do this and Romney should do that because of this guy and thinking what do you got to do with it you're a Democrat but anyway I found this whole thing to be theater and some sort of a weird kind of transcendent level. I was reading a I found this other really interesting website, hillbuzz.com I think is what it's called. And these are kind of like these whistleblower-like websites, there's a couple of them. And I'm trying to see if I can find this, but apparently...

CHAPTER 18 / 24 Discussion

Apple Product Launch, iPad Mini, iOS 6 Data Issues

The recent Apple product launch featuring the iPad Mini is critiqued for its marketing language and perceived lack of innovation. Tim Cook and Jony Ive are mocked for their presentation style, which the hosts compare to Steve Jobs. The segment also mentions ongoing data usage bugs in iOS 6 that are reportedly costing users money, as well as the competitive landscape involving the Samsung Galaxy Note.

apple· tim cook· jony ive· ipad mini· ios 6· galaxy note

1:46:38 All of the people who work in the White House and around the administration, you know all these kids from Chicago They're all going back to Chicago and they're interviewing for jobs and trying to get a gig because they think they're all gonna be out of a job Come come January. So they're already all going back now. Yeah, they're nuts But you never know. Yeah, of course, you never know. I thought that was I'm not betting on this election That's for sure. No Couple of them. I'm sorry go ahead. Well. I got a little side thing here a little humor Mm-hmm, so I was watching the Apple rollout for their new products right really yeah, and the Yeah, because I write about this sort of thing it may be a good idea to see what they're up to That's okay. You can say whatever you want. Okay, so Tim cook I didn't realize it because I've never really seen him do much on the stage because they stream this one and I never get invited these things in black bolt and

1:47:39 So now they're streaming, which they should have been doing for decades. I didn't realize he tries to sound like Steve Jobs when he talks. He literally sounds like Steve Jobs as a matter of fact. Tries to sound like him. He walks around back and forth. He wears Steve Jobs outfits. No, that's not true. He did not wear a turtleneck. He had... He's got a Steve Jobs look. It's beside the point. It's not a good look for an old man is what it is. I'm surprised I ain't got a ponytail. So that's what he needs. And so he makes this comment, which is a Steve Jobs kind of thing. And it just makes him sound like an idiot. It's a non sequitur. It's a stupid thing to say. And I clipped and I went, oh, brother. Why is iPad so phenomenally successful? It turns out that there's a simple reason for this.

1:48:40 People love their iPads. I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna try that tonight. Honey, I love you. It's simple because I love you is why I love you. Don't you love me cuz you love me? What a d- hold on. Hold on a second. Yeah, but let me tell you the whole company talks like jobs because I did not watch this thing. Because you know I was like duh we all know it was an iPad mini Which apparently is what I've been carrying around. I have an iPad mini It's called the galaxy note and guess what it's a phone too. What a bonus I have a big that's what you should write about I got a big bonus, but I watched the video and

1:49:26 Which I always have to watch it. Oh, I'm Johnny Ives. I'm Johnny Ives. I'm bloody interesting and I'm really really smart. And so I created it. The iPad was designed to be very powerful, very capable, but also remarkably simple. Simple! It's simple! So what do we do? So our goal was to take all the amazing things that you can do with a full-size iPad and make it smaller. Oh my god! I'm Johnny Ive! I've made it smaller! One of the things that makes iPad so incredible... So incredible! Michael Chow? There's almost no end to what you can do with it. No end to what you can do with it! So we decided to make the iPad. These people all talk like Jobs. We love our company, we love the iPad. It's so beautiful. We didn't just make it smaller, we designed the program, the entire product from the bottom up!

1:50:19 It's thinner! How... you know, honey, you're only 188 pounds light! This is what... this is what... How much does your wife weigh? Oh, she weighs a hundred... she's 150 pounds light. Because you're not thick, you're thin in the world of Apple. You know what? I think this is finally, finally the stumble I've been waiting for. You see, these arrogant douchebags fall with this product, which no... and they screwed everybody! Hey, you just bought an iPad? Ha ha ha, here's a new one! Ha ha ha ha ha! Six months later! Eheheheh! It's better, crack. Come on. You know you want it. Screw these guys.

1:51:00 Well, I didn't expect to go on a rant about it. I just thought it was the dumbest thing I've heard for a while. People love it because they love it. It's irritating and meanwhile there's a real problem with iOS 6. There is a real data problem and Apple's ignoring it like they ignore all real problems. And we have people who are... it's costing real people real money. It's costing us money. It's costing us real money. Thank you. We have these iOS 6, iPhone 5, iPad 19 Download things going crazy, and you know I've reported it And I've reported it to the people inside Apple and say I'm gonna go see if we have an open ticket on this open ticket You should stop the assembly line for this Anyway, you know you know who I'm betting on shall I tell you something who I am thinking is going to be awesome Yes, Marissa Meyer

CHAPTER 19 / 24 Discussion

Marissa Mayer at Yahoo, Ghostery and Ad Tracking

Marissa Mayer's leadership at Yahoo is discussed with cautious optimism regarding the company's mobile interface and search results. The conversation shifts to aggressive internet ad tracking, specifically "retargeting" experienced after visiting the ScottVest website. The hosts recommend the Ghostery browser extension to help users identify and block the numerous trackers used by major tech news sites.

marissa mayer· yahoo· ghostery· ad tracking· scottvest· retargeting

1:51:52 Went I'm going short on her. I'm going long on Marissa Meyer, and I have been looking I've been using Yahoo search Just the it doesn't matter what it doesn't I don't care. What's on the back end. I like the way It's presented. I'd like the mobile interface. I like what I'm not getting is a bunch of douchebaggy ads everywhere and lame results so whatever they're doing I like it, and I think Marissa Meyer, I think people are going to be surprised about what she can do. I think she's actually got it. Who cares? Yeah, that's what I say. Now, I do have another, since we're in the beef business...

1:52:33 So I so I did the twitch show last Sunday right and this guy Scott from Scott vest the gal makes it close with millions of pockets You know I saw I can't believe you actually modeled like a douchebag you were standing. Yeah, I did So funny and the chat room is so much beside the point you can I get that point? We don't have a lot of time on this show So I went and he says, you know, you should get something, you know, so I said, well, I got to go into the website, scottfest.com, right? I looked around at the stuff. And so now whatever I do on the internet, on that machine, every single ad, the top banner ad, the side banner ads, the ads at the bottom are Scott Fest ads. Oh? Yeah.

1:53:19 It's like it's it's it sounds to me as though there's they've sold some idea and people should do this Notices more often. I'm gonna do this Scott that's scott tv st. No scott e VST And then you start going around USA Today, whatever you go to, I guess there's a cookie there and they go, yeah, there's the cookie. This guy looked at the ScottVest page, so that's just inundated with ads. Now I don't know if they're ripping off the ScottVest guy with these phony ads or what the deal is, but it's a waste of money. and a waste of real estate and a waste of advertising inventory on me and it just never ends. I mean I have gotten hundreds of these ads and this reminds me of Rachel from card services. I get called by her at least twice a day.

1:54:10 Okay, so I've gone to Scott do I have to click on a couple links here on Scott best? No, no, you yeah, maybe just like think look out like I'm really interested like yeah, okay I'm gonna have the oh they put your picture up from the that's cool. No they did. Yeah. Look there's John modeling This is not good. Centrum Silver, apparently the internet thinks I am deficient on my multivitamins. Yeah, well I'm not sure that USA Today is the best, so just put it in a bench, you've already done the deal. Now wait until Sunday, you'll have seen Scott Vest's ads by then. Just wait. Well, I guarantee you that the Twit Network is involved in this somehow.

1:55:06 I have this ghostery thing, do you have that? Ghostery? Yeah, I have ghostery. Ghostery is good. If you then see, like, some of these sites have like 59... I've had to turn it off. Well no, you can turn off the balloon. You can turn off the balloon. You have a million things that crop up and then you kill it and more keep coming. Well, what I love is that it'll have 90 things that are tracking you and you have to figure out which one to turn off so you can watch the video. Of that page. Yeah, no, I find it's a bit. It's just this way that the Internet's working today. It's disgusting. I recommend people get ghostery just to see how you're being tracked and what all these tech sites by the way, you know in gadget and CNET and all of these sites. These are the ones that track you the most so, you know, enjoy enjoy whatever

CHAPTER 20 / 24 Discussion

Face Slapping Therapy, TSA Backscatter Radiation Concerns

A "face slapping" beauty practitioner from Thailand charging $350 per session is featured in a news clip from ABC. The discussion then moves to the TSA's replacement of backscatter X-ray machines with millimeter-wave scanners. A CBS News segment is mocked for its "expert" Dr. Jennifer Ashton repeatedly referring to the technology as a "backscanner" while downplaying cancer risks.

face slapping· thailand· tsa· backscatter· radiation· jennifer ashton

1:56:03 We got a couple more things. We know we have another show coming up on Sunday and I have a couple more clips I'd like to play but you know we do have a kind of a special, this is a special show for us and I'd like to and we're gonna spend a lot of time thanking the 5555 donors since there's a lot of them. I think there's a hundred. What? And yeah I think so. Holy crap. And so I think we have to go into our final segments here and then if we have some time left we can... Can we just do a little funny then before we get out? Okay, I get to do the first funny. I get face slapping bull crap. Face... Does this need to be set up or is it good to go? No, no, just play it. How about a little more on our special Wrinkle Rehab Report?

1:56:48 a new way to turn back the clock. Some people paying big bucks to get slapped and they say it could help you look younger. We want to know does it work? ABC's Nick Watt giving it a try. That is Tata, a pioneer in our universal and vain search for beauty. She takes a face and she slaps it. Don't give a care if you want to be beautiful and handsome. Recently trained in Thailand, Tata claims she's now the first face slapping practitioner in the Western Hemisphere. And what is this supposed to do for you? It makes you look good.

1:57:28 And it's $350 for 15 minutes. And she just slaps the crap out of you. They came from Thailand, some S&M shop obviously. I mean, it's the stupidest thing. This is your news on Good Morning America. Well, it should have been the donkey punch, but okay, we'll take the face slap. Well, you think that was Good Morning America. On CBS, they have a special doctor. All these shows, they have their own... their own experts. So they have a report which is a report that of course you know we would normally talk about and I think Sunday is going to be the day where we get to all of the real down and dirty stuff it'll keep about the the TSA replacing you know pulling out all of the machines that would give you cancer

1:58:16 I'm talking about the naked body scanners, and they are replacing them now with a new contract, which of course, we had to start cycling some money through it all, with the machines that maybe not give you cancer, but they probably rip apart your DNA. Right? The so-called gingerbread. The millimeter wave. Millimeter wave. Now what is another word for millimeter wave? The terahertz wave. Well, these machines have a very specific name. Oh, I don't know. Backscatter. No, no, I don't think that's true. No, the x-ray is the backscatter. We agree that the term is backscatter.

1:58:55 I don't, I didn't agree. Do we agree that the term is backscatter? There is a term called backscatter. Yes. Is Health Watch a new concern about those full body scanners that the TSA wants to put in airports? Here with details is our own Dr. Jennifer Ashton. Good morning. Good morning Maggie. Big write up in the New York Times citing cancer concerns because of the amount of radiation these machines emit. How much radiation are we talking? Well in terms of the backscanner radiation which is... Hello! What? Backscanner? Yeah this is a doctor coming... She's the expert who came on to talk about the backscanner. scanner? Oh yeah! It's not backscatter, it's backscanner. And just listen to her, she does it four times. Because of the amount of radiation these machines emit, how much radiation are we talking? Well, in terms of the backscanner radiation, which is one type of scanner that is theorized to be used in airports, the experts say that it is equivalent to the amount of radiation that you get in a dental x-ray, only 1% of that. So we're talking a fraction of the radiation that you get when you get your teeth filmed. That certainly does not sound like a big deal.

1:59:55 Especially for somebody who doesn't travel very much. Exactly, and a lot of radiation experts are now weighing in and even if a billion people are scanned using these backscanner type of radiation scans, the thinking is that it could possibly result in 10 additional cancer deaths per year. So she's rolling out all these statistics but she can't even get the name right. Backscanner. Oh God. Backscanner. This is embarrassing. No, but that is your expert on the CBS News. News! The Tiffany Network. Edward R. Murrow is spinning in his grave, I tell you. That's what's going on. I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

CHAPTER 21 / 24 Discussion

Anniversary Donations, Vasectomy Karma, Suicide Code on Dutch Trains

A large volume of listener donations is processed, with many contributors giving $69.69 or $55.55. One listener requests "karma" for an upcoming vasectomy, leading to a discussion about the procedure. Adam Curry shares an anecdote from his time in the Netherlands, explaining that "overhead wire problems" on Dutch trains are often a euphemism for track suicides.

donations· vasectomy· netherlands· trains· suicide· karma

2:00:43 Here we go. How are we going to do this? Do you just start and I go to the back? We're going to do two things. One, we're going to do our normal donation segment. We're going to put aside the 55.55s and then after the birthday thing and we get all the regular guys out of the way, we'll thank each 55.55 well-wisher. Give them a read their comments and it's going to be a while because we have a fairly decent group. And we want to, by the way, thank our producers profusely for helping us out here. For celebrating five years. Yeah, helping us out and celebrating. In fact, they like to show so much that they chimed in. So let's start with our regular donors, Christina Lake in Lisbon, Maine, 166.65.

2:01:31 Her donation is 5555 times 3, which wasn't the same as the other one when I multiplied it, but that's okay. I'd like to congratulate you on your 5th anniversary three times, once for myself, once for my fiancé Richard Harriman. Please credit the entirety of this donation toward his knighthood. And once for the person I mentioned in the following story. I live in Lisbon, Maine, but I work in Waterville. This past Tuesday I returned to my car after work to find a note on my windshield. Recently placed in an in the morning bumper sticker on my car and at some point during the day someone stopped by and wrote this note to me. In the morning to you as well, fellow no agenda listener from Hollowell. Cool. It completely made my day. So I decided I would pay it forward in a donation of the best podcast in the universe. Can I get a fluoride in the morning karma?

2:02:21 for this kindred spirit in Hollowell. Aw, that's cool. That is so fun when that happens. That is fun. And the karma goes with that. Thanks, Rosina. You've got karma. And your kindred spirit. Yeah, whoever it is, whoever you are, Lyman Derby S Derby in Nicholasville, Kentucky. 155 55. Been a boner for about three months now. I was hit in the mouth by Jay Hamilton. I've been listening every minute of every show since then. Please accept my donation at 55 55 for the anniversary and 100 for being the best podcast in the universe. Please deduce me. Send some karma for my Vexectomy.

2:03:02 Ouch. On Friday, I'll be listening to you guys while the doc mangles my man parts. Woohoo! You've been de-douched. You've got karma. I just have to read something. I just have to read something. Just have to read something from the chat room real quick. Miss Small Biz. Can't believe Adam didn't catch that doctor's first statement. Scanners that are authorized to be in use. Thank you, chat room. Can't believe it. What? Backscanner? No, she said backscanner. The doctor said something else and I just love it when people say I can't believe you didn't catch it. You say stupid! Oh yeah, why do you even look at that stuff? Maxwell Robertson, Crown Point, Indiana 11323. A little Shittison Woo for you. Drunk donation, mofo. A special karma shot to forward deployed Scott McLaughlin because he needs it and get Monation puppy.

2:04:01 The last karma shot a few months ago helped to guide the incoming mortar rounds away from his position on the base. Or did it draw it in? Wow. Give him a karma. Yeah, well he wants a Shazam Woo karma so... Shazam Woo! You've got karma. That's a citizen. Jane Middleton in Austin, Texas. Right down the street from you she's got binoculars on you now. John, the Austin airport is fantastic. The old Mueller Airport runway was too small to handle large commercial jets. This is based on the fact that I was bitching about the airport in Austin. Bergstrom is an old Air Force base converted to civilian use and actually has one of the largest runways in the world. Mueller is now a vibrant mixed-use development and Bergstrom can no longer be used as a drone again, naturally. That being said, I like it. Trains good, planes bad. All aboard, trains good, planes bad.

2:04:59 And may I suggest that when people are supporting the show, you continue to use that voice like you really think they're obnoxious. That works. I think the donations go up by doing that. They go way up. Yeah, that's really more nastiness towards our supporters. Well, you know, it's a theory. Sir Jason Stevens in Lost Wages, Nevada, 11111. Hold on one second. One. Hold on one second. One. One Mississippi. Not just one. Jason, there's no no from him. Way to go. I thought there was. Way to go. Trevor Chapman in Brampton, Ontario won $111.10. What's with the L? Oh. Giant red book.

2:05:53 110 dollars, $111.10, doubling down on the 55.55 for the best podcast in the universe. Please call out DarkOrk20 as a douchebag. Douchebag! RJB Raps and Kirkrid $100. WJB Raps. What did I say? RJB. R. Yeah, it's WJB. We're all Bert raps. Hey, I'm still liking the show to the greatest extent John Give me a tip on what interest what's interesting a state of Washington. I'll send you an email if you send me one Dvorak John DeVore org I'll be traveling to the state in May and a Idaho was you know all over the place. Hey, thanks us for the best podcast in universe. Jesper Holmberg and Duval Washington, huh?

2:06:36 Maybe you should get a hold of Jesper. Can I get a de-douching to expunge my record of past douchebaggery with the Karma Chaser to help me avoid becoming a re-doucher? You've been de-douched. You've got karma. Some of the language we come up with here is phenomenal. I love it. He's a lucky guy with all eights. Chris Ball in Chicago, Illinois, 71, 26. I wish you guys a very happy fifth. I would like to request some book karma from my friend who wrote her first book. We hope you like this song which came out this week. Thank you citizens sent using PayPal. Oh, okay. We'd be very happy to give you some karma. Here it is. You've got karma. And here comes another sideline. 69! 69, dude! We have a slew of 69ers today. Swazzle nuffers. Swazzle nuffers. Swazzle nuffers. Nuffers.

2:07:37 Rosanna Oglesby in San Antone donating again to my husband Tyler's Knighthood donated two weeks ago for travel karma and it worked. I made it to all my destinations safely. I needed my car repaired but it was very cheap. I think the karma was the reason for the low cost. I'm donating this amount because I miss Tyler and I can't wait to see him in a couple of days and appreciate if he could have some more travel karma for the trip home and I can't read the rest of this. I think Jesus wants travel karma. You've got karma. People are not requesting it because you hate it so much. She says that she wants the Atlas Shrug thing because she loves the way I mock the cli- I don't- I don't- Yes you do, you go, man, never. I am man.

2:08:29 Use that same condescending in fact you should run for president. You're such a con I should I'd be good grouchy be the way the ships go in the water They float on the water Do that sequence the thing about the aircraft carrier Yeah, you know aircraft carriers with the planes land and the little aircraft carrier, and then they take off you know about that Christopher Yagi in Ottawa Ontario 69 69 I'm crying again I've enjoyed the show since the first episode so I wanted to congratulate you on your five year anniversary. Let's hope for another five years. I haven't donated as much as I should so I'd like to request a hey shitisan to the head de-douching. Okay. Hey shitisan to the head de-douching. Hey shitisan. You've been de-douched.

2:09:24 In Cyprus, Texas 69 69 from anonymous is semi boner since the donation does not get close to the value you provide Can I get some karma for an upcoming professional certification exam? You've got karma I wish I wish that you were my dad and I grew up with you and you'd be doing that all that crap when I was with your own kids all these voices do it to us. Oh, no, that's cuz they learned right? Yeah, that's cool. No, I bet you I bet you're a fun dad. I If you like a cynic Scott Leesburg in Scott in Leesburg, Virginia, Virginia 69 69

2:10:02 Says the last time he donated $69.69, he's the one. You played a clip of Panetta making, talking about cyber war in the same episode. I regret to inform you that upon hearing that asshole shill, my $69.69 donation was rendered flaccid. Please douchebag him. Congratulations on the anniversary and the outstanding shows. As of late, the quality of analysis has been great. I'm really going to miss the show after the cyborg cyber Gestapo shuts it down. So will we? Please send me some F the karma cancer to crash helmet Kathy. Oh She has just been under two months before she's had to endure a week of uncle Rick and myself playing our slide whistles remember Remember Kathy right man with a with a hell with a crazy helmet that had no idea on it, right? You've got karma

2:10:53 Another anonymous donation for 6969 from Ashley or Ash from Gitmo Nation East. Congratulations on the five years love the media assassination please send me a shut up slave to the head karma. Shut up slave to the head. You've got karma. Sir Mitch Bedron in Long Beach. Hey guys, throwing a little swazzle off your way. Congrats you're in the five years. I've asked for karma before, just never for me. Let's keep that going. So for my smoking hot wife Jill, I need MILF karma and throw in a little girl shut up slay for me at the end. It's getting complicated. MILF, that's one of the highlights. You've got karma. Shut up slay.

2:11:44 And guess who's here? Baron Von Pelzmacher. Oh, hey now! The central question is that this has got to be the end of the swazzle-nuff streak. Out with a bang. Fact! Happy anniversary, Sean. Do you catch yourself doing that around the house during the day? I don't do it enough. I don't do it enough. It always gets a laugh. No, no, it's stopping funny here in Camp MoFo. I was informed. I'd be like, fact! It's a fact!

2:12:23 No, it wasn't funny. Audrey Symes or Symes, Symes in St. Louis, Missouri. 6969, I'm so happy my boyfriend Nolan turned me on to No Agenda. His birthday is this November 3rd and I felt that donating to help keep our conversations flowing would be a good gift. Please give us both some karma for this future and a de-douching for the douchebags at Bar Louie that inadvertently brought us together. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. Anonymous in New Rochelle, New York, 6969. A screw lupus karma requested for his wife. You've got karma. I think you can just say F. Lupus is terrible. I think you say F lupus. F. F for people. Because that's what he asked for. F lupus. Make sure the karma is right. Simon Bruce.

2:13:14 Simon Bruce Cassidy and Drammen. Drammen? Drammen. Drammen, I think that's... Drammen, is that in Holland? I think so. 6969? I think so. I just got some unexpected dog watching funds and wanted to forward it to some of you guys as I currently find myself in need of new employment. Could I get a trains good planes bad karma shot in our honor of the four hour a day commute, train commute I no longer have to do. Absolutely. All aboard trains good planes bad. That's ludicrous. You've got where's he karma? Where's he commuting to Prague? No, it's probably just because of the Congestion I mean trains and it's not what it used to be anymore. I think he is a gitmo nation Lowlands this train system is so messed up and they're always late and this and the biggest problem if in the Netherlands when you when they say there's a problem with the The wiring what do they call it the the overhead wires? Yeah, you know what that's code and

2:14:10 And that's code for someone jumped on the tracks. It's a suicide. I learned this when I was doing radio there. Whenever the official traffic announcement says there's a problem with the overhead wires, that means it was a suicide. There's three a day. It's messy. They got to stop the train, clean it all up. Yeah, I bet it is messy. Jim Garrity, Tallahassee, Florida, 6969. David Weed, Hickory Corners, Michigan, 6969. Just started listening this year and you easily became my podcast of choice. Happy fifth anniversary. Please send my wife and I a Saigon woo in the morning and karma shot. Uh, okay.

2:14:53 You've got karma. Uh, Giancola Pena. Giancola Pena. Giancola... Colia Pena. In Essen. This is a make-good donation. In the country of default. In the country of default, that's what it says on the spreadsheet. Yeah, well that's it. If you think about it, that could be any country in Europe. This is a make-good... Oh, good one. This is a make good donation for me challenging and somehow beating Adam with the quadruple jingle combo on Thursday. So relax Adam, no jingles this time and sorry for the annoyance by the way. Big thank you for bringing back the DSC from time to time. Folder big hair. Hope you win Jan. Okay, so I will say someone just helped me out with a thematic daily source code and put together a whole bunch of Halloween clips.

CHAPTER 22 / 24 Discussion

Listener Birthdays, Knighting Ceremony, Host Partnership Reflection

The hosts conduct a formal knighting ceremony for several high-value donors, including Sir Jonathan Spiry and Sir David Ross. They celebrate various listener birthdays and reflect on their five-year partnership. Both hosts emphasize that the "chemical balance" and "team analysis" approach are essential to the show's success, dismissing suggestions that either should produce the program solo.

knighting· birthdays· podcasting· partnership· team analysis· anniversary

2:15:47 So, uh, songs. So I'm gonna check them out. If it's not, if, as long as it's not all monster mash, if there's something good in there, we might actually do it. And that actually, that wraps it up, right? For 69, 69. 69! 69, dudes! That's a good group. It still didn't beat the 22. Chris Hernandez and Corpus Christi Texas, 64, 64. in the morning. After hearing that your anniversary is on the same day as my birthday, I had to donate. I've been listening to you guys since earlier this year and never donated. So I need a de-douching for not donating to you guys sooner. I also want to shout out karma for the guys at Mega64, Royce Kokami, and the rest of the internet soldiers out there. Finally, thank you for being the best podcast in the universe. You've been de-douched.

2:16:38 You've got karma. A sweet note. Joseph Esposito, Joe the Dish Slave in fact in Stockton. Sergio, Sergio the Dish Slave. Sergio, yeah, Sergio, sorry sir. With a five year congrats plus a little extra to make it a nice round six, he'd appreciate if you could send some karma to my father-in-law's way as he has been, had some surgery coming out next month and please mention the seventh greatest podcast in the universe, The Ozone Nightmare. at ozonenightmare.com. But I hear that, you know, there's quite a gap between the best podcast in the universe and the seventh. I mean, he could be the second for all we know. For all we know.

2:17:18 You've got karma. All right, so we're putting the brakes on here John. No, we still got more No, I have the non 5555. There's no oh, right. I'm sorry. Yes, Gil and Riverview, Florida 5540 Long time $5 per month subscriber here our local NPR station begging for money again 24-7 and annoys the crap out of me so I decided to donate to you guys instead and Would have liked to donate four and fifty five dollars for your four four five five show But I can't afford that I think my wife would kick me in the nuts if I did so I'm giving the inverse instead 5540 I'll probably get kicked in the nuts anyway by the way five five I was gonna say that's a really good Donation number moving forward do the reverse so yeah, that is a good idea for Sunday would be six five sixty five forty and

2:18:14 Yeah. I like that. Good one, Keith. Yeah, good catch. We never think of these, by the way. Never, ever, ever. It's a miracle we came up with a 55-55, which saved the show. Which, by the way, was something else. First you had like 55-26. I can't even remember how I came up with this stupid number. You had the dumbest number ever. It was like, yeah, it's great. It was idiotic. We do 26-04-55. It makes so much sense. I'm very embarrassed about that. Okay, all right. What are you anyways is 455 is a special number for me? Not always my favorite Oldsmobile engine size, but I use the number of my website Keith for five five dot-com Thanks for everything. I really enjoy the best part. It's awesome. Wait. Does he come? Yeah, he doesn't care Simon reed sir Simon reed in New York, New

2:19:03 In New York City! Happy birthday Noah-Jen, happy birthday to me. It's my 33rd on the 26th so can I get a little birthday karma? Thank you. Of course, Anna you're on the list. You've got karma. Deliver 5533. Thank you. Jaren's Schlute in Zellum. Yaroon. Yarooom. Slote. Slote. Not five more years, but 55 more years. Yeah, good luck with that. Keep doing what you're doing because it's the best podcast in the universe. Sir Cogs and parts unknown 5245 Sir Cogs to you sent a donation last week but the note wasn't read so I'm doubling down on double karma I spare you the nitty-gritty but my roommate and I could really use some staying out of jail slide whistle karma you have to use your slide whistle the cops aren't as medical marijuana friendly here in California as they make it out to be depends on what town you're in

2:20:02 The 52, it depends on your city. Especially in some parts of like around Bakersfield, Kern County, you're in trouble. The 5245 is jail on a telephone keypad so hopefully there's some special numerological connection that will help with the karmic transmission. Also can I get a douche bag for all the involved officers and especially the douche bags at the jail? Our cheeks were swabbed for DNA at our booking and when we signed the form the douche bag jokingly told us it was our consent to allow the state to clone us. Wow, that's funny Really? Yeah, we're gonna clone you son. That's for smoking some weed And we messed up or what? Yeah, totally. Thanks for the best podcast in your risk. Give him some army. Yes. Hey, I got the how come where's your slide whistle? What happened? Okay, let me hold on a second. I found it. I'm warming it up a little because mine is cold

2:21:05 You thought, Harvey. I think I overdid that one. Well, they gotta stay out of jail. It's a big deal. Graham, yeah, really for what? Greg, Graham Bucknell in Durham, North Carolina. Very nice town. 5140. Happy 5th. Jobs, jobs, jobs, karma, if you can get it. Yeah, of course. Hey, man, going to jail, getting your cheek swabbed versus smoking a plant. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. And finally Kyle Bauer in Parts Unknown $50 and now we have, well we have our birthdays and our nightings and then we'll give a 55-55 call out to everyone who gave us a congratulatory donation.

2:21:53 It's your birthday, birthday, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're Nora Janko! Ah, Sir Simon Reed congratulates himself turning 33 tomorrow on our official birthday. Royce Kokami says happy birthday to Chris, turns 20 today. Norata Staple says happy birthday to wife Lauren, celebrating today as well. Kelby Koening says hey Marvin Law, I love you, happy birthday. That's special. Chris Hernandez congratulates himself celebrating today. Audrey Symes says happy birthday to her boyfriend Nolan. He will be celebrating on November 3rd. It's the gift that keeps on giving. And the No Agenda Show itself. That, John, is you, myself, Mimi, Miss Mickey, Buzzkill Jr., Eric the Shill,

2:22:40 Uh... Void Zero, Mr. Oil, Gitmo Slave, I know I'm forgetting somebody, but everybody who helps make this show what it is, thank you so much and happy birthday to us. Yeah, I would mess it up, wouldn't I? Nah, it's fine. I tried. We got a lot of knights today. Well, of course we do. People are all trying to... Oh, sorry. Was that your blade? Yep. Okay, let me grab mine. Did you see it? Look at the size of this thing. Yeah, your unit is actually huge. Huge! Jonathan Spiry! David Ross! And your wife, Toni! Step forward, Tom Busche! And Robert Gold! All of you have contributed to the best podcast in the universe. Thank you so much for making this a special day for us. A great celebration. It is wonderful to bring all of you into the round table as knights and a dame. So hereby I pronounce thee Sir Jonathan!

2:23:37 Sir David, Dane, Tony, Tom Busche and Robert Gold. Sir Robert, all of you are knights in a dame with the No Agenda Roundtable. We have got your hookers and blow. I'm sure Tony would like the Rent Boys and Chardonnay. We've got your geishas and sake. We've got your hot pants and booze and your winches and beer. All right here. What was the one we forgot? The something rosé and... Oh, something rosé. It was rosé and... Oh, and Rubenesque Women and Rosé. Oh, Rubenesque, right. Yeah. The list continues to grow and I promise one of these, I'm doing this from memory, so I promise one of these days I'll write that down. If you write it down and have a little piece of paper on the wall so then when the cops come over they see this list they're gonna wonder what the...

2:24:17 You're violating the United you are violating a gender 21 code boy as soon come on over here because it's time for you to swab your cheeks if you know what I'm saying yeah because we got a clone you soon that's So before we get into thanking everyone who donated for our anniversary and by the way I would do want to mention that we will have until Friday night midnight we still have the 55 55 donation open oh and we'll just and after that we will no longer accept that amount well I mean if somebody wants to send it in but it's not gonna be about the anniversary we're just gonna be a normal donation I just think we block that

2:25:00 We could, but it seems like a lot of work. Just block it. Just block it. I'm not blocking it. I can't block it. I don't know how to block it. I'd have to go through the list on PayPal and refund everybody. It's like, you know, we have a work ethic thing going on here. We got to, that's what we have Buzzkill Jr. for. Let him do it. So all I wanted to say is, John, Thank you very much for being my partner in crime here. I really enjoy doing this show with you. Well, I actually want to thank you for being my partner in crime and you produce the show and you do the sound effects which is great because I, you know, it's like a lot of work.

2:25:40 And the other thing is that I think that you've become the dominating analyst as the two-man analyst team goes. And I think that some of the stuff that you've done in terms of pure news, information and intelligence analysis is world class. It's world class. Well, that's very kind of you to say, but I have analyzed my analysis. And as I listen through it, it would not be anything if we didn't do these things together. That is what makes it work. Well that's why team analysis is better than one guy. And there's no I in team, John. Because I've often thought and lots of people email me and say, you know, dump that old man. Do it on your own. You don't need him.

2:26:34 Get rid of him. We don't need him. Yeah, I get the same email from my fans. And I'm like, that would be... These are your fans. It's like stupid. It's dumb. These are your fans. Oh yeah, well that could be too. But it's like, I can just imagine trying to do this show by yourself. I mean, it's doable. No, it's not. It's not doable. And I think there are some podcasts where people try to do this. No, it's not doable. It's not doable. No, it's doable, but it's not good. Wait, no. If it's not the same as not doable, it would suck to high hell. There are a number of people out there that try to do that. I've heard their podcast and they have an interesting analysis but they don't have, there's a lot of times and we've done this where you'll do it, it's not often but it happens often enough where you do a misanalysis.

2:27:19 Or you're just off about some little thing or you missed a little gotcha and the other guy you or me will get on it and say would you just notice that he said this oh Geez, and then you'll you know, but it's not even that that isn't an important part of it But it's not even that it is it's a chemical balance that somehow works and it's right down from us spurring each other on or just showing that you're annoyed. If we lived near each other and we saw each other too much we would not get along. No, no. Well, I'd put a cap in your ass. No, you wouldn't. You'd be clobbered by a baseball bat before you had a chance. I would not bite the hand that helps feed me.

CHAPTER 23 / 24 Discussion

Final Anniversary Credits, Green Card Immunization Requirements

The final segment of the anniversary show continues with donor credits and a discussion on US immigration health requirements. It is noted that individuals applying for a green card (Form I-485) must undergo a battery of immunizations, including MMR, Polio, and Hepatitis B. The hosts express concern over the mandatory nature of these shots for residency and university enrollment.

green card· immunizations· vaccines· immigration· mumps· measles

2:28:00 Anyway, let's thank our 5555 folks. Yeah, this is this is really awesome that everyone checked in And we like I said, we'll do a few more on Sunday, hopefully because tomorrow is the day tomorrow is the drop-dead day Sunday will still be basking in the glow David J. Lister in Provo, Utah. Been listening for a long time but haven't donated since my wife tried and failed to get me a podcast license for my birthday last year. What? My name still hasn't shown up on the site by the way. So, Adam will take care of that immediately. I'm going to do it right now. A happy 5th anniversary is about time I started giving back the many hours of entertainment I've taken from you two for free. Please give my wife a trains good planes bad karma as she is going to school full time for a master's degree while gestating an awesome first child who coincidentally was born on Ms. Mickey's birthday. July 8th? Hopefully, she makes it a couple more months without going crazy. Dave the Mormon.

2:28:59 So what does he want his podcast license to be? DaveTheMormon.podcastlicense.com? Yes, put that. DaveTheMormon. Okay, hold on a second. First let me get this out of the way. All aboard, trains good, planes bad. I'm doing it right now, you know. I am doing this. Okay, Dave, you can go check it out shortly. Hold on. What is it? Anonymous. Let me go on with the thank yous. Anonymous and Q Gardens, you know who you are in New York. Happy 5th. Tom Bushey, who's a Sir Tom Bushey as we speak, Sir and St. Paul, Minnesota nuts. 5555, congratulations on five years of hitting them in the mouth. Barry Kroger in Greeley, Colorado. Happy five years and best wishes from the best half and I. Another shot of karma, please. Here we go. You've got karma.

2:29:52 Good old David Clevenger in Sterling, Virginia. Been a long time since I've been able to donate, but I feel compelled to do it now as I would miss the show if it went away. Thank you for bringing us important information in short form so we don't have to listen to all the bullcrap spewing from the pie holes of the talking heads on the boob tube. You're doing God's work! True. Suzy Lawson in Bristol, Tennessee 5555 you guys are are seriously the best happy birthday Ashley Hurst 5555 Michael Snyder in Windsor, California Congratulations on your fifth anniversary of the show Please give yourselves the best podcast in universe karma for another five years of media assassination and giving me an Italian girl Shut up slave. All right, so we do We'll do that in that order then you've got karma

2:30:41 Dave the Mormon podcast license calm is now live up. Yeah, Dave Cardenia and Alameda, California Richard Raymond, I'm sorry Raymond port in oh jeered pure port is Raymond port is port Raymond port Raymond port in Here drum here drum here pretty good Raymond port and is long long time listener of the podcasts. Oh is he yes and good buddy Thank you, sir, but but he's in but what I don't understand is I forwarded a note I think

2:31:25 Oh. Well, these things we got a lot of notes in. Yeah, okay, keep going. You get it, we'll open the note up and just read it. Okay, I'll see if I can find it. Hold on. It's not like this is easy. Yeah, so hard to type a name in a search box. Well, but I wasn't prepared for it. Because I thought that... I got it right here. You do? PayPal managed it again 14 months in a row now without any problem. Ha! That deserves a de-douching. By the way, since no one else will do it for me, my birthday's coming up on April 23rd. What? Oh, this is from April 5th. That's from last year? Oh, here's your de-douching! You've been de-douched. I don't have his, uh, any email for him. I thought I had it. It doesn't matter. We thank you. Okay, we'll talk him. But he's around. He's around. That's cool. He'll be good. John Marino in Rocky Point, New York.

2:32:20 Russell Rhodes in Tallahassee, Florida. There's no conflict in donating and donate we much We can do without a little skillets candy happy 50 guys for the best podcast universe I'd like to call out Roger McDaniel as a douchebag As he's been listening for a year and has yet to donate Wow Give me a shut up slave to to the head adios mofo. I know I'll do something a little different for you. Yes There's no real conflict. You've got karma. It's better. Another anonymous source in Enosburg, Vermont. Congratulations. The needs a yay little girl parliament mumble karma. What? Okay, I get it. I get it. I can do this. Wow. Here we go. And it's karma, right? Oh, I know what it is. Okay.

2:33:21 I like the yay in the middle. I want to keep that ready. That's I like that one. That's a good one. John Evdeman in Sammamish, Washington. Some of these are hard to pronounce, but that's Sammamish. You guys are worth so much more. Thanks for the best podcast in the universe. How about? Droned again followed up by you can take that to the bank to help wash off some of the douchey buildup Like that one James said that that's actually nice James Pearson copperus Cove

2:34:09 Texas 5555 Kelby Koenig in Grover Colorado I had two options option one send 5555 to the best podcasting nervous or option to buy a gift for my mother-in-law whose birthday is upcoming you can see which I chose if you don't mind I would like some relationship karma I have a strange feeling I'll need it You've got karma. Get your ass kicked. Sir Sam Lung in Toronto, Ontario, 55, 55. Joseph Gull in Belle Mead, New Jersey. Thank you for making the best podcast in the universe. I can't stand listening to or watching the mainstream media anymore. Thanks to you guys and your top notch media analysis and deconstruction. Happy five year anniversary. I'm looking forward to another five years of listening to your show. Can I get an Italian girl?

2:35:01 Sorry, it's dying girl. Shut up slave clippity-clop and some apartment hunting karma. Okay, Italian girl Shut up slave clippity-clop. Is that what it is? Yes, just the Italian girl. Shut up slave. No, no, I understand I understand and the clippity-clop the end of karma. Yeah, it's how you grow Oops King of the hill. I don't want to do clip of the day. It's Clippity Clop. The message is clear. Joe's Clippity Clop. You've got karma. It's not easy, you know? It's not easy doing this. No, no, it's not. In fact, it's amazing you can do it at all. James B. Mann Ringgold, Louisiana, congrats. Please consider upgrading the string and soup cans. Thank you for the compliment. Andrew Haas, Geneva, Illinois, 5555, life has been so good I thought I'd finally share some of my cash with you guys, please. Some getting laid karma. Okay, that's swazzle enough normally, but okay. You've got karma. New red ring leaders in Ontario, Oregon.

2:36:04 I didn't even know there was an Ontario or again 5555 uh John sir John Snyder in Chicago Illinois nuts 5555 thanks for all the shows stop Kevin Fairchild Lando Lakes Illinois nuts no no Lando Lakes Florida please give yourself some well-deserved karma I look forward to another five years of crankiness and cracked pottery from you both yeah You've got car. I think we've pretty much established is not gonna happen for another five years No, but we're gonna go as long as we can yeah, oh yeah For another five years we'd be kind of shocked, but we do it. They're gonna have to shut us down That's that's that's man. Talk. They have to shut us down because we have good support here It looks like and I hope it continues on Sunday show Roy. Oh playing random someone's talking back Someone's on my frequency

2:37:03 Okay, I'll turn that off. Roy Pingel in Brooklyn, New York. Dear John and Adam, here I am giving an encore 5555. I'm assuming somebody is taking care of the swazz on nuff-sided things. Congrats again on having the best podcasting in the cosmos and universe. And I don't agree with you a lot of times, but I love how you guys deconstruct a mass mis-education machine, the popular lapdog media which keeps begging for biscuits from the two corporate wings of our one-party system. I like that. Let's say that again. I love how you can deconstruct a mass mis-education machine, the popular lapdog media which keeps begging for biscuits from the two corporate wings of our one-party system.

2:37:49 That is poetry. That's a keeper. That's a show opener is what I'm thinking. The country is a company town with no public square, plaza, or commons. Adam, I must... Roy, you're on a roll. I must prefer to get my sweet fix from sugar rather than from the mind-fooling fetus DNA, but how about the natural sugar substitute stevia? By the way, I think it's bitter. Stevia. As far as vaccinations go, thanks for debunking the clamor for the H-clamor for the HPV vaccine and raising concerns for serious side effects become very hard to get. around vaccinations and have your child enrolled in school here in New York where some vaccines for real nasty diseases are might be advisable anyway. Can I just say some sources advocate of... Go ahead. Yeah. No, go ahead. Keep going. Go ahead. Finish it up. No, I was gonna say some sources advocate avoiding a child getting more than one vaccination at a time but for example not to allow a child to receive an MMR on one shot

2:38:50 And then he goes on. So, you know, Miss Mickey is in line now to get her visa slash green card, a green card, I guess, because we're married. So she has that opportunity and they've they've approved her. And now she has to get a change of status, the form I-485. Do you know that they have now you have to get immunizations? She has to have all these shots. For what? In order to get a green card. What shots does she have to have? You name it, including the flu shot. Everything. You gotta have tetanus, meningitis, fuck a cacocola. Meningitis? Not the meningitis. No Americans have the meningitis shot. It's a breast exam. I swear to God, I kid you not. And she has to do it at an approved place.

2:39:41 Which, you know, of course, you know, that's gonna be nice. And then she wants to... She wants to enroll... Time for your breast exam. And... Are they big? No. How do you do it? Are they big? No. They're big but they're not huge. No, they're nice. They're beautiful. There's a guy in this office, he wants big, he doesn't want, you know, nice. And then she wants to enroll in a class at UT, a lighting, photography lighting class. She has to get the shots again. They won't enroll you at UT unless you have all your shots.

2:40:18 She has to get the same shots twice? Well, hopefully she'll be able to, you know, have a booklet and prove that she's had these shots. But, I mean, what is this coming to? Like, pretty soon you want to walk on the street, I was right! Where's your papers for your shots? Have you had your shots? No, this is all part of a great marketing scheme. I mean we've been pointing this out since the get-go. I mean, I didn't know it got this far, but I mean some parts of the country is obviously worse than others, but Texas is really susceptible to this sort of marketing stuff. Well, let me just... well, that's not just Texas. Texas has got a lot of problems. Here is vaccination requirements for entrance into the United States. I just want to read this to you. Ready?

2:41:04 Mumps, measles, rubella, MMR, that's one shot. Polio, tetanus, diphtheria, toxoids, pertussis. Toxoids, what's that? It says tetanus and diphtheria toxoids. Diphtheria. Diphtheria toxoids. It's like Rolaids, I think. Okay, go on. Pertussis, hemophilias influenza type B, hepatitis B, And any other vaccine preventable diseases recommended by the advisory committee for immunization practices, which I think these days includes influenza. That's one, two, I'm gonna count the MMRs, one, two, three, four, five, six, so seven shots. Seven shots and they fill up your breasts. Unless you get felt up. What? Nothing. Anyway. Okay. Onward. Sorry, yeah, onward.

CHAPTER 24 / 24 Discussion

Final Donor Roll, Ford Focus Electric, Show Sign-off

The episode concludes with a lengthy reading of anniversary donations from around the world, including Singapore, Germany, and Canada. John Dvorak mentions an upcoming review of the Ford Focus Electric and his goal to test the Fisker Karma. The hosts sign off by thanking the audience for five years of support and promising a return on Sunday for further news deconstruction.

donations· ford focus electric· fisker· ham radio· anniversary· sign-off

2:42:00 Colin Chriswell colon colon colon Colin Sydney New South Wales happy birthday to ya. Congratulations on reaching five years for the best podcast in universe. Can I get a Huntsman Karma combo to set me up for the long hot summer? You've got karma. That's right Colin. The Huntsman Karma always does it. Dame, black dame actually Janice Kang Milpitas. Congratulations for five years of the best podcast universe karma for all the human resources. You've got karma Sir, Matthew Nick Cole in Brooklyn, New York 5555 Lucas ZI ZI ZI in Munich mean Munchen Deutschland, holy crap, John. We're never gonna get through all these.

2:42:53 Yeah, we are. Can I, should we do, I mean I'm getting tired of listening to you. Should you do one then I'll do one? You do this one, I'll do the next one. I told you there was a lot. Yeah, I'll do the next one. You do this one, I'll do the next one. No, you do this one. Okay, Lucas Ziva in Munchen. Hey John Adam, happy fifth anniversary. Long live the best podcast in the universe. Simon. Luke from Munchen. Tenerife Queensland 5555 Benjamin Blondin go back and forth. I'm gonna yeah slow down What no be quiet Ben's light. It's my turn Benjamin Blondin from Walton Hills, Ohio Atlas shrug jingle, please By a rain

2:43:44 Bumper Productions, Marston Mills, Massachusetts Nuts, 5555. Seems the only appropriate to celebrate with your anniversary alongside my beautiful wife's 50 year being cancer free, which we are celebrating in a few weeks. She does not have a history of breast cancer in her family. The doctor said it was just a case of bad luck. Sense of life is filled with so many twists and turns. She had the courage, bravery and strength to face her biggest opposition straight on. Always looking for good karma and everything we do, requesting additional karma with this donation please send out a boatload of Huntsman Karma since he was the US ambassador of China when our family toured there a few years ago. Huntsman Karma. Oh, I thought you were gonna... No, we had it on display. You've got Karma. Joan Dodd-Effray, Dodd-Effray from Motown, West Virginia, Morgantown in the morning. John and Adam, happy fifth anniversary. My husband and I are celebrating our 16th wedding anniversary on 10-26 as well. So obviously I had to get in on the celebratories

2:44:37 It's great that our special day coincide, special days coincide because I forget my own wedding anniversary pretty much every year and so does my husband. Please do this promo every year to remind me to hint around for gifts now. For gifts now on. Okay, thanks. And please have it, yay. It's just too delicious to believe in my friends. There's some karma for you guys. So we can do this again next year. You guys are the best. So here's the problem with doing, when we do it together. is that I can sometimes, I can read ahead and I can get the karma things lined up, but I can't do that when I'm reading at the same time. It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend. You've got karma. But maybe you should just read them. Anastasia Trekels in Valparaiso, Indiana. Congrats on five great years of the best podcast in the universe. Looking forward to the next five. Richard Garrett in Thunder Bay, Ontario.

2:45:36 I here's a 55 to 5 to celebrate five years of propagating the formula and five more years of hitting them in the mouth. I should have donated on Sunday because it's been a real rough week of midterm exams and essays. I love these students by the way. Some of which I had had to put a bull crap about the importance of voting for the eight pages. I'm glad I had you guys pumping through the earbuds to keep me sane and keep me keep the puke down I haven't received any grades yet So I can get her can I get a retroactive karma and a douchebag call out to all my boner friends who still won't listen to the show All right, here's the car you've got karma Mike Katic in stay well Victoria shut up and take my money

2:46:18 Slickmedia LLC. First of all, doe saints, I don't have the doe for this, but thank you for your hard work and the least I could do. Please give the New World Order two to the head and give the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights some karma. New World Order gets two to the head, and here's the constitutional karma. Thank you. You've got karma. Torben Peterson in Oslo 5555. Raymond Canistra in Drockton. Frizzlin I guess Raymond Kleinstra Raymond Kleinstra Congratulations on five years is a time very bad karma no blame but Damn, now the choice flowers for my girlfriend or donate to you. My girlfriend is carrying a new human resource So I have to skip a month of flowers Would you like a new shot? Would you like a new shot at karma? Keep trying jobs jobs jobs for new jobs because of narcolepsy, please keep up the good work Going ahead. Yes, Friesland Friesland Friesland Friesland Friesland Friesland Friesland jobs

2:47:21 Jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Alan Wichin, Prince Rupert, British Columbia. Robert Ryan, Charleston, West Virginia. Longtime boner, now a donor. Here's another five years. Mike Keeler, Wages Nevada. Here's some hookers and blow money for you. Can you see what happened with my podcasting license? I never received a number two. Oh, I'm doing that on the spot. He's doing it right now. Constantine Racketan. Sir Constantine, to you, Toronto, Ontario. Harshad Patel, Bilston, West Midlands. Josh Riker, New Fairfield, Connecticut. Guy Boazzi. Sir Guy Boazzi. Guy Boazzi. Guy Boazzi in Tel Aviv.

2:48:08 uh... andre mccleson virginia beach coming in for a birthday anniversary donation i usually wanted on a sixty nine sixty nine to keep alive elusive it didn't happen but the central question here is that no agenda will see another five years can i get zombie crowd no drones in the jingo karma i think the zombie crowd refers to those people in the cup house of parliament uh... okay so what do you want parliament parliament and drone karma Which drone? One of your drone things. Okay. You know guys, it'll be a little bit of... You've got karma. It's not easy. He makes a note that I edit some of these comments because they're for length. Yeah. And it's just what we do. I'm not gonna stop doing it. RobertRyan.PodcastLicense.com is live.

2:49:13 Oleg Aracatini, Sir Oleg to you in Richmond Hill, Ontario. Best podcast in the universe. Karma for everybody, little girl, yay. Karma for everybody, little girl, yay? Yeah. Okay. Karma, then yay, I think. Okay. Oh. You've got karma. Yay! That's cute. Nicholas Stowe in Austin. Another Austin, Austonian, Austinian. Austonian is correct, yes. It's not Austonian? It's not Austinian? No, it's not Austonite. It's Austonian. Austonite, that's the one. No, it's Austonian. Happy anniversary, Mr. Nick. William Young, Lebanon, Tennessee. Robert Gold in Toronto, Ontario. My second anniversary donation, I'm so close to knighthood I can taste it. Well, you got it.

2:50:01 So he's actually Sir Robert Gold as we speak. That's right. We know. I might already be there but I'm failing at the self-accounting system. As a regular donor or donator, since the only days are no agenda, I might be there already. If not, then it goes on. A karma shout out to his own pending knighthood. Okay, well. Absolutely. You've got karma. Sir Brian Watson in Sugar Grove, Illinois. Congrats on five years. Just five more years. Give me a trains good, planes bad karma. All aboard, trains good, planes bad. You've got karma. Hopefully he gets to listen to the show on the train. Robert Gold, again.

2:50:41 First of two anniversary donations, actually it's the second because it came in there. As one isn't enough. Plus it gets me two requests for shoutouts. First how about a hey citizen toot of the head to all of Canada. Most of whom are not paying attention. No, they pay some attention. Werner Bogula in Hamburg, Deutschland. Congratulations. uh... karma worked sir jan and me could transform our latest journalist training in vietnam to an in a mean fast among our standard exercises were creating headlines with the keywords climate change science and denier copying obama in photoshop drawings graphical charts in the numbers nine eleven thirty three fifty five sixty nine and sixty nine policy at the vet on second their training were nurse training to be a journalist in vietnam and this is what he's doing

2:51:34 Yeah, cool. But the best thing was the farewell party where everybody would sing a song from their home country. Sir Jan and myself were belting out the No Agenda National Anthem. Excellent. Unfortunately, they are closing down our journalist school. We need some serious job karma for next year so we can get to carry on the prop- get to care- propagate the formula. So please play Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Yeah plus Karma. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. Michael McPhee in Langley, British Columbia.

2:52:15 Home of the sophisticated marijuana grow-ups and the famous Langley ukulele ensemble. No shit, it's unbelievable what these people can do with a small guitar. Check them out on YouTube. When you pronounce ukulele, it's yuk not yuk. If you say it wrong, they get all upset and then they play another song. Anyway, General Karma to the show. Ukulele. It's ukulele. You've got it, Karma. I don't know. Ukulele. Langley Ukulele Ensemble. Aaron will play some songs while we're reading these things. Aaron Guzman and Redmond. Redmond. Redding. Redding on California. A.K.A. Mr. Max Powers from the state of Jefferson. Oh, he's in Jefferson. That's right. Redding is in Jefferson. Thanks and love the show. Could I get two to... There's a derr-sure where they're gonna be droning. Can I get two to the head and can Adam say I will not comply on the megaphone?

2:53:08 Congratulations on the first five. Oops. Okay, so two to the head and is there karma as a part of that or is it just- I didn't know that. It doesn't say. Okay. I will not comply! Congrats on the first five. Hopefully the fascists will go another five. Don't worry, I'm just getting some ukulele music. Sir Alan Bozen again. There's another guy. We have two guys in Langley, British Columbia. Hey, Sir Alan, go meet Michael. Yeah, really, you guys should hook up and hang out. Yeah, have a drink, have a beer. Bring out the challenge coin, see who brings it. Thanks for the five years of excellent information. The real news is what we all need. I just made two road trips, one to San Francisco and one to Portland. It's too loud. And spread out the No Agenda business cards whenever I stopped.

2:53:56 People should do that by the way. Daniel Turelio in Charleston, South Carolina, beautiful place. Happy Wood anniversary. Do you know that? Yeah, the 5th is Wood. By the way, because you were hearing it loud, it's a different mix so it wasn't being loud. No, I couldn't hear myself talking. Sorry, I stopped. Wood is 5. Adam won't last another 5 when he overdoses on Halperol. Halperol. Haldol. To anyone considering donating don't do it because it turns into a vice my wife Aaron soon-to-be milf Once karma and throw it throw on a little girl yay at this is interesting This is the kind of coincidences you have with a random number theory karma with little girl yay on the end, okay? You've got karma Charles Peden in Greenville, North Carolina

2:54:51 Pronounce peed in Congrats on five years. Here's to many more I'm doing my part to keep you from resorting to selling tangy tangerine to make Do you even know what that is no tell me oh, that's that's the new Alex Jones thing It's like if you buy and drink tank tangy tangerine you'll live forever Well, please all these central nutrients you need to fight the new world order you can't get make your voice gravelly enough. Oh Please call David Fox out as a douchebag. Oh boy. Douchebag. I'm not donating. Justin Gearing in Manhattan, Kansas. Karma for you too, the greatest podcasters. You are what makes this show. I hope you get another five years before they throw you in the clink. Well, at least curry. Let's face it, John will probably turn state's evidence against Adam for a case of wine.

2:55:45 Sounds about right. Yeah, probably true. A little karma for us. You'll flip. You've got karma. Yeah, we can flip that old guy. Scott Olsen, San Diego. Jumping on the fifth anniversary donation handbasket to hell along with the best podcast in the universe, I'll take a Huntsman Karma shot. You've got karma. Joaquin Bueno in Paterna Comunidad someplace. Where is he from? Valencia isn't from Spain. Oh Spain Spain and choose nuts Jesse will sir Jesse Wilson Holbart, Indiana No, no detached donation should be defaulted to a karma request. He wants a karma or she was she he was karma

2:56:41 Charles Eves in Hawthorne Woods, Illinois. Modest donation for the best podcast in the universe. You two are the most entertaining thing I've watched, listened to each week. Right there with Florida Gator football. Wow. We're up there. Five more years of saying it's almost time for no agenda. Michael Greer in Shicksony, PA. Shicksony is Mike, you know, with the Woodlawn House. Yeah, your buddy. Mike and Sarah Greer. You've been living there. You live there. I'd love to. Happy 15th to my lovely wife. Aww. Aww.

2:57:17 And give him of karma for her. Yes, and uh, and uh, there's a DSC coming guys. I can feel it. I can feel it. They love it. They're big fans. They Sir Astrum... They actually play old daily source codes all day long in their house. Yeah, I'm sorry. I feel sorry for them. Sir Astrum and Vendalyn. Here's in another five years give yourself a best podcast universe jingle. I'm hope I'm kindly requesting a hey shit is in karma boost. No great You've got karma Kirk and in Geneseo, New York 5555 Terrence Phillips in Corvallis, Montana value for value even if you are truly crackpots I do enjoy the podcast hope that you keep this up for four years of the Romney era no he's not my first choice either but the alternative sucks right Gary Johnson is the alternative Phil Payne gig Harbor Washington very nice little place you just give a political

2:58:20 Plug for Gary Johnson did I yeah, I Roseanne. I know she Roseanne Barr is also an alternative I'm the money and okay you're right. She is I'm voting for Rosa right III think you should vote for I'm voting for Hills and bar Thomas Gardner in Wilmington, North Carolina is key just trying to keep my douchebag level to a minimum hopefully Hope your show lasts for many more years. The KJB Properties, Houston, Texas. Kyle Blank here. Just throwing some good luck karma to the best podcast in the universe for another five years of media assassination. P.S. John, you should really consider the concept of no agenda wine after seeing how much money is being pulled in from something horribly named Mangria. Yeah, this is a big topic there on the Twitch show you had about Adam Carolla apparently selling lots of Mangria wine. Yeah, I talked over to the vendor about this. We're not really going to do that, are we?

2:59:09 No, no, okay. We don't have we could it's it's bullcrap. It's bullcrap Who needs to be doing it what we're gonna see we're not selling we don't sell stuff. I'm gonna say what we're gonna do Hey buy some wine from us. Hey, no, we don't we're not going to show is supported by the listeners when the listeners give up on us Then we end the show. Yeah, we end the show. We're not gonna do it because we have a wine business Thank you. Although I might sell it on the blog No! You can do Dvorak wine. Do that. Oh, I'm not doing Mangria. That stuff was horrible. It was like, ugh. Lori Swim, Marysville, Kansas. Happy birthday to you guys from Eric and Lori. John Stone, Louisville, Kentucky. Kevin Miley, or Mile, Mail, Mile, M-E-Y-L-E, Kalamazoo.

2:59:58 Ryan Vietenheimer in Tucson, Arizona. Travis Dillman, Red Deer, Alberta. Andrew Haverson, Sir Andrew to you in Gravenhurst, Ontario. When I find myself re-listening to episodes, it's time to uphold the value for value. Why would you re-listen? Still writing on my night ring, by the way. Yeah, we'll get him one. If I could request an inquiry into that matter, that'd be great. Okay, you just did. Andrew Lemesene, Lemesene in Colorado Springs. Did you meet with him? Yes, I think I did. A little birthday left to no agenda and the brother that hit me in the mouth, Richard. This is to start him off on his knighthood. I'd call him up, but he's living the American dream and raising my awesome nieces and nephew. Karma for us. You betcha. You've got karma.

3:00:53 Uh, Nerada Staple. Oh, this is not good. I just clicked a button and uh... Happy anniversary from Gitmo Jaws, Perth, now having the highest number of death from sharks this year. It's true. Can I have a Shut Up Slave 2 to the Head Karma combo? And it's my wife Laura's birthday on the 25th. We said happy birthday to her. Uh, and I'm sure she'll enjoy some Swazzle Nuff. I bet you will give her some Swazzle Nuff. So you need the, uh, Shut Up Slave 2 to the Head Karma. Shut up! Got it. You've got karma. Vincent Farrell, San Bruno, California. Happy fifth of the best podcast in the universe. Thank you for all you guys do. Vince Paul Schneider, Edmonton, Alberta. Credit me as Paul Schneider. Done. Thanks. We just did Andrew Wars. I picked the one. Johnson comes in to save the day. Andrew was risky in Indianapolis.

3:01:52 Indiana nuts 55 55 you guys rock oh keep up the good work we appreciate how you expose the manipulation happening all around us which is what we do best can we just have John give us a good it's a scam nice one Troy Walters in Hawthorne, East Victoria, Canada. Central question is, congrats on the five years. Don't stop until you get enough. Reminder to all citizens to view GetMoNation Down Under and No Agenda Story on YouTube. Link in the show notes please. Jessica Walters in Melbourne, Victoria. Congratulations and many more years to come. Can I please get some freestyle, slide whistle from John and some karma from my husband.

3:02:35 Search Roy. Yeah, so you see that's the family that loves together donates together. Yeah, they do Tan HL in Singapore. Thanks for de-douching the de-douching and some job search. Oh, you need some de-douching and a job search karma You've been de-douched Garrett Jones and Barton Queensland karma. Oops. Sorry, Barry Jones and Barton You're stepping on the karma. Do not step on the karma

3:03:13 I got it all over my foot now. Michael Cross, Canada, Ontario. It's getting closer to nighthood. Probably a proud monthly supporter since January. Currently on the 11-11 plan. I would remind you to check because these things get dropped by PayPal left and right and people think they're on the 11-11 plan, that they're not on anything. I'd like to call out Scott McCormick as a boner. How about a... DOOSHBAG! Not only is he not donated to the show since I introduced him to it several months ago, but he now routinely harasses Adam on Twitter. Oh, uh, yeah, I've not noticed it because I don't pay attention to Twitter. Oh, I know who Scott McCormick is. Oh, I think I blocked him.

3:03:56 Yeah, you block it. That's what I do. I'd block on Twitter at the drop of a hat I always look when someone says something I was looking like they're like 24 followers. I'm like no I'm not going to give you followers. I'm going to block you forever Rich Ballard in Aalborg Vermont After hearing a couple of other boom Vermonters contributing. I thought I should get off the Viagra and start being a donor from Gitmo Green Mountain. I put in 5555 to celebrate the fifth anniversary and became a 1212 monthly. I had an idea that might be another way to get the word out about the show. There's a lot of local debates going on right now and some of them you can get into the chat room at the station hosting the debate. During the last debate for our lone house member they started talking about drones etc. So I put in the killlist.curry.com link and made a few comments about it. On the pharmaceutical side a four-year-old

3:04:47 My wife works with it. A school has just put on ADHD drug called Focalin, which is the methylphenidate. Sounds good. Actually, dexmethylphenidate. She said it made the child's tongue go in and out all day like a snake. Very sad. I love that drug. And your head go to one side Greg did he want some karma or anything? Yeah karma yeah, yeah, oh no don't need any jingles of karma, but the kids might need it Well just in case yeah, yeah, just in case for the kids do it for the child karma do it for the children sir Greg Filer in Lauderdale, Minnesota I

3:05:34 The deal is the only right that I give you anniversary donations for five years of media assassination. Listening to previous episodes, it's important to get a donation in before I get droned again by the Curry-DeVore Consulting Agency. Could I also be reminded where to send my ring information? Rings at thenoageneration.com. I could also use two to the head, shut up slave karma for those getting a beloved flu shot here in Minnesota. Nuts. Oops. Hmm you've got karma Royce kakami and I uh Hawaii in the morning John and add you guys one guy goes up to missus Hey, hey bill. How do you pronounce it Hawaii or Hawaii and the guy says it's pronounced Hawaii? And he says thanks. He says you're welcome. Oh

3:06:25 In the morning, John and Adam. I appreciate it. Karma shot and birthday shout out to Chris turning 20 this Friday on the Noah's Gen 5th. Looking forward to another five years. Jake Kenyon in Burping Gary. Hold on, hold on. Karma shot. He gets a karma shot. Hold on. Oh, I didn't see that. Sorry. Well, you read it. Karma. I read it, but I don't read. I just read. I'm a robot. Robot. Now, this guy, Jake, is in Burping Gary. uh, Queensland. Jeff Kenyon using Jake's PayPal account. Oh, it's Jeff Kenyon, yeah. As a result of being called out on show 453 for not donating before my son, can I request a de-douching and a best wishes karma shot for John and Adam on the 5th? Aw, that's nice. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. Kevin Benson in Bundina, New South Wales.

3:07:13 Uh, new listener, loved the show. Getting into past episodes now, which is... Which one is the start of calling Hillary Lucifer? That's a ways off. You've been doing that for over a year. Two years maybe? Forever. Yeah, I think really... Almost three years. Ever since Beelzebub introduced me to her. Uh, best part of your show is that little girl doing shut up slave. I can just imagine her running around in a pink tutu with a de-douching wand under her hand. Oh, I like that! Shut up! Nice. Yeah, this is a nice image. Laurie Jutila in Parts Unknown. Best podcast in universe making this donation while listening to the latest episode live giving value for value or receiving some. Keep up the great work deconstructing. Can I get some Huntsman karma? Of course. You've got karma. Mark Heimerman in Appleton, Wisconsin.

3:08:16 For John's amusement and Adam's disdain, a Wisconsin nuts. Happy fifth. And have a fifth on me, he says. John Grumling in Aspen, Colorado, congratulations on Adam passing the technician test. Even though he hasn't got his call letter yet. No, I'm still waiting for that. You know, this is what really made me angry, is when I passed two flight tests, one for helicopter, one for fixed wing. You pass those, you can fly right away. You, you, you pass your test for ham radio. You gotta wait 10 days until they assign you a call, the call letters. You don't have to wait 10 days. Yes you do. You can get the call letter earlier, you can do it. If you get the call letters, but I don't have the call letters. Yeah, you have to have the call letters. Well that's what I'm waiting 10 days for.

3:09:05 Okay, well you'll have it shortly. What are you in a rush? Yeah? Nobody else on ham is hey bill. You're gonna come over today No, I'll be over tomorrow I'm here WJ 6l ng out. Oh, no you're talking to me never mind Come by Yeah, Debbie Ashling, what do you need? What do you need there? Is this Adam out there in the middle of nowhere, Texas? Yeah, it is. How's the weather down there in California? It was raining this morning, but it's not raining now. We got some nice weather here in Texas. Anyway, the wife is waiting for me. She don't like it when I'm on the radio too much. I know what you mean. I'm in the car right now. I think I'll go in.

3:10:05 Alright, well good talking to you. I'm sure I'll catch you tomorrow. Yeah, W-A-J-6, L-N-G out, and... Alright, goodbye. That's exactly what it is. Yeah, I know. And I can't wait. Yeah, that's about it. Anyway, that is our... Are we done? We got everybody? Yeah, we did. Hey now! Wow. Wait, let me just do this again. The best podcast in the universe! And we'll have more show on Sunday where we can pick up some of the stuff where we left off. I mean that was a long segment. Yeah. But we put it at the end for people who, you know, just, you know, want to clip it. I think this is the first time we... I don't think any show has ever been this long, quite honestly. No. This show has gone past three hours. And in fact... Now we only budgeted this last segment for about... I think we budgeted for an hour and we've gone an hour twenty. Oh my god.

3:11:01 Well, so we win so yeah, we all show should be this long This should be filled with with the content that everyone enjoys I although I think you know what we did is you know and we didn't pre announce it but we pretty much did you know two hours and 15 minutes of show and normally we interrupt with A couple of segments. Yeah. In the middle. Beforehand, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so that's okay. But I'm looking very, I'm very much looking forward to Sunday's show because I have a lot of stuff. You know this, I'll tease it if you don't mind. You know this meningitis thing? Yeah. I figured out what that's about. Oh. Yeah, yeah. And then there's another thing I want to talk to you about which is the Chicago plan. Are you familiar with the Chicago plan? Yeah, I am, slightly.

3:11:58 Okay, cuz that's that's coming back. Yeah, well we'll do this on Sunday, and I got some I got a couple clips I didn't bring out today. I'll bring out yeah, and we'll have a good time and hopefully people will keep supporting us I sure hope so I sure all right Bring it up. Bring it up. You mean bring it up like that. Yeah there you go. Yeah, all right, so a programming notes we have the Freedom fiends coming up live in seven minutes from now although I suggest they don't wait seven minutes and They pick up whatever human resources are thrown out on the floor here, on the Noah Jindal stream, and switch on the minute we get off. Actually those guys are pretty good, the freedom fiends. I like them. That's good. Well, I'm going to have to go run take a shower because they have a major meeting at 2 which would gall you to no extreme. Oh, the meeting?

3:12:50 Well, what it is, is the Ford is gonna drop off a weekend. Oh no! A fusion, a le- I do- well, no, not the fusion, but the Focus Electric. You're shit, and then you're gonna write about it? No, I'm writing about all the electric cars. If you haven't noticed, I've driven them all except that one I haven't got a hold of yet is the, I think, uh, which one is it? There's one car I haven't gotten a hold of. And I'm gonna go drive around the Fisker. The Fisker, I was just gonna say. Well, you know what? If you drive the Fisker, I hope it bursts into flames. You're just jealous. Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm jealous. That would be it. Alright, coming to you from the capital of the drone star state everybody. In the morning my name's Adam Curry. And as I hear bells in the distance, here in northern Silicon Valley I'm John C. DuBois. We'll be back on Sunday with a full-blown episode filled with New World Order news deconstruction right here on NOAgenda. I've got information man! New shit has come to light!

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