Going Purple

00:00 Allow me to share an incident from a few weeks back. Adam Currie, John C. DeVora. It's Sunday, October 21st, 2012. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 454. This is no agenda. Suffering from disruptive mood dysregulation disorder. Here at the capital of the world, Star State, we're in Austin Tejas in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Currie. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I've got a bell, I'm John C. Dvorak. Disruptive mood dysregulation disorder. Well, I wasn't going to go right into it, but if you really want to know, sure, here it is. Many experts feel children are misdiagnosed. Now this is putting together the DSM-5, I believe.

01:07 and in fact suffer from disruptive mood dysregulation disorder instead of ADHD and ADD. Now it's DMDD. The new, still unofficially, unofficial disease currently is being debated for inclusion in the manual. However, there's no treatment yet. So I mean, why even bother? No, there's no drug, so why bother? Why bother putting it in? But I love that one. I've got DMDD, man. You know, I got to try. So what is it supposed to be? Exactly what it says Disruptive mood dysregulation disorder. It's not the same as ADHD not quite ADD It's DMDD. It's just it's just a reason for a new drug. It's like they're holding up a sign We think it's time for a new drug everybody want to repackage some of that Haldol. This is it's just just Maybe just to mess with us just to say hey you guys still awake

02:07 What do you... Okay. You don't understand? You don't understand that... Okay. So they're putting together the... No, no, give me an example of this disease. Well, it's very similar to ADHD and ADD, except they're now saying we may have been misdiagnosing these children because they might actually have DMDD, which of course is... Oh, I thought they'd have DOA, DOPD, PQDD. No, no, no, you have to understand. They think that now they may have been misdiagnosing all of these children, which of course could have been hundreds of thousands of children who were receiving medication for attention deficit disorder, when they of course obviously had disruptive mood dysregulation disorder. And that requires a whole different prescription. Can you give me those letters again? Yes. DMDD is disruptive.

03:07 mood dysregulation Dysregulation disorder So it's... Yes? Disruptive mood deregulation? Disregulation. Disregulation. I think it should be deregulation during the Reagan administration for sure. No, it's dysregulation. Disruptive mood deregulation disorder. This is the problem that Bernanke has. That's the Bernanke. Also known as the Bernanke disease. So it's a form of pediatric bipolar illness known as BPI. These guys kill me. I love it. It's a job for Haldol no matter what.

03:55 I was I found this database maybe this is the one that buzzkill jr. Told me about it's the arrowid experiences vault yeah that's all these druggies apparently there's a large contingent of people on the interwebs who like to just take drugs and then report back right but this is an actual searchable database yeah yeah if you want to take something you go to this website yeah and it tells you what's going to happen to you. So I looked up HowlDoll and apparently... And there's a bunch of guys, by the way, there's a bunch of guys in there that go, do not take this ever! No, there's quite a few of those. In fact, I looked up HowlDoll and

04:37 Here it is, the entry is... Haldol, body convulsions of death. And I'm like, okay, this sounds like... Oh god! That doesn't sound fun. But do you remember one of the main side effects of Haldol? And so this guy is like, he was feeling kind of weird. I'll read from his entry, but halfway down, he gets some chocolate cake from the fridge, so he's tripping out. About three bites into the chocolate cake, my tongue began pushing against the back of my teeth, almost like I had bad cotton mouth. I would pull it back and it would slowly edge forward until it was pressing against my teeth. This is the snake-like tongue movements.

05:18 Feeling a bit strange, I went to my room to lay down. This is approximately 24 hours since I had taken the Haldol. Upon arriving in my room, I was unable to sleep because of the involuntary movement of my tongue. I drank some water and tried to relax, but it was getting worse. Now my tongue was pushing past my teeth and protruding from my mouth. I would have to forcibly pull it back and lock my jaw down. Then I began to get a little scared. Yeah, no shit. I decided to try to completely relax and maybe I could go to sleep with my tongue stuck out. My tongue continued to push out until it stretched to the point it was painful. I began to panic and forced it back in and clenched my jaw shut. After clenching my jaw for about 10 minutes, my neck began to slowly bend to the right, much like my tongue. I was unable to stop its movement or hold my head up straight any longer than a few seconds.

06:14 Now I'm in my room by myself, my tongue is stuck all the way out, my head is crushed into my shoulder, and I'm crying because it feels like I'm about to break my own neck from the force of the muscles clenching. This lasted for four hours. I can't wait to try it. This is fantastic. Fantastic. Anyway, hey in the morning to you John C. Dvorak. In the morning to you Adam Kerr. In the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground, subs in the water and feet in the air. Also good in the morning to our knights out there who have supported the show so well. We highly appreciate that of course. And once again Martin JJ.

06:58 I clocked in with the art for the previous episode four five three and I'd like to say a hearty in the morning to everybody in the chat room all of our human resources they're lined up ready to go all charged up and already thinking about trying their own dose of howl doll at no agenda chat dot net no agenda stream calm and so my Twitter got hacked oh your Twitter got hacked yeah that happened this morning that happened to me about a year and a half ago two years ago and I know exactly what happened to It's so dumb. I was looking at Instagram because this is now, this is like kids say, the only social platform I use is Instagram. I swear to God. Kids can go jump off a bridge. No, man, I don't do Twitter or Facebook. The only social platform I'm on is Instagram. But of course, you're living in Connecticut. What kids are you talking to? My daughter and her friends.

07:57 I know talk like Connecticut no warps no I'm emphasis added for entertainment on the pond the But of course it's all plugged in through their Facebook and whatever, so it kind of flows through. And so now I'm on this and I'm following a couple of her friends. And it's basically just pictures and then maybe a little comment or something. And there was one of her friends had posted, I have naked pictures of Justin Bieber. I'm like, okay, I'm game. So I click on the link.

08:33 And then it says, oh no, you have to go to this link through Twitter. Oh, bro. I know. I'm such a dumb and I'm just you shouldn't be putting this out there as this is this is going to embarrass you. It's embarrassing. But that's OK, because I'm OK to be embarrassed if people need to know that even I can fall for this. Don't like. I'm like, this is these kids. They maybe actually do have naked pictures of Justin Bieber. That would be funny. Look, I'm already just got to see what Bieber looks like. I'm investigating for the show. Now I know why his last name's Bieber. I'm investigating for the show. And then it pulls up a Twitter screen and says, you got to log in. And I know, I know. And as I'm doing it and as I'm doing it on my phone, I'm like, oh no, I should. I hit it. Oh.

09:17 Wait a minute. What are you a psycho? You're typing in and you're saying to yourself, stop, stop. I couldn't. My tongue extended so far it hit the button. By the way, that reminds me of, I think we've talked about this maybe two or three years ago and I'll bring it up again. There is a phenomenon and it's been discussed in the media and elsewhere, there are people that You know that fishing thing you can say click here, and they will just have they feel that they're obliged to do it It's almost like a compulsion and that's where a lot of a lot of zombie bots are planted through these you know It's just a weird phenomena you get yourself into a situation. You can't not click. Yes. Yeah, well it was be Tourette's it Could be ah if only they had a cure for that

10:07 But the it's a it's maybe hopefully a little bit understandable because it was a new it's a whole new thing I'm just yeah, wait, wait, wait, hold on a second back up. Yeah, you knew at the time that you were doing this that this possibility exists. Why didn't you go change your password immediately on Twitter? I did but they had already sent out a link. That's how quick it went. Holy crap. You're kidding Yeah, I'd like a diet link and of course here's the funny thing Diet people who follow me are like hey, man. I thought it was weird You were sending out a diet link like they're so gullible they clicked on a diet link from me seriously Let me give you the let me tell you what the tweet was it was pretty funny It's so obvious that you would never ever click on this coming from me Hold on

10:55 It was... oh, this Twitter thing. Do you find it slow sometimes? No. Oh, here it is. This is... Not after I erased the Zoom program. This is the fastest, all caps, way to shed body fat in two weeks. Come on, people. You gotta know that that's not me. And they're like, you want to hear some of the responses? So people can laugh at me, but the people who clicked on it are just as silly. Let's see. Did you get hacked, Adam Curry?

11:33 Hey, you have really strange tweets you're sending out. Hey man, that link you sent is not safe according to Chrome. That's the guy who's the gullible guy, that guy. But there's a couple of them. A couple of them. Ah, you sent out a site considered by Twitter to be unsafe. Yeah, okay. As if you had done it. Yeah. Now, let me offset all of this. Let me offset that idiocy by saying that yesterday I passed my HAM exam. I go what's your you get your call letters no not yet. I think it was in the mail I guess yeah, and here's what was cool because I went for the the technician test This was by the way this this was hilarious John wait know when you took your test. What kind of people were at the test

12:23 Well, there was about 20 people and they were all about 60 years old. Right. So I had the same guys except they were from Texas. And of course there's five of them sitting up there kind of like on a dais because you have to have... Right. There's a group at the top and when you turn your questions in you do it to one of the guys and they check it all. And they never tell you what you got wrong though. I know. But so first of all, There's the five guys and they're all seasoned hams and they have badges. They're all experts. They're the extra hams. They're VE's, John. They're the top notch hams. They're the grand poobahs of hamdom. Did any of those guys know who you were? Absolutely not. No clue whatsoever. Two of them knew me. And so there's maybe five people taking a test and I'm the only newbie.

13:14 And, and, and, you know, it's, it's always, and they're not quiet during the test. They're talking to each other and they're walking around. Did you have the same thing? There wasn't like no order whatsoever. No, I didn't have that. And I was taking the test and people were coming in and they were late and then they started late. And this guy, one guy was juggling. I swear to God, I'm taking the test. He's juggling. And the other guy's like, well, that's cool. Can you do three? Can you do four? Can you do five? And then one guy and I'm taking the test. And he says, hey, do you know what DNA stands for? This is the level of humor. So do you know what DNA stands for, John? No, what, Adam? No. What does DNA stand for? First of all, of course there was a guy there.

13:58 who actually knew what the abbreviation DNA stands for which is deoxyribonucleic acid or something like that. Exactly! And then he said, no that's not what it stands for. He says, well what does it stand for? National Dyslexic Association. That is actually quite funny. And I'm taking the test and I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe this. This is actually going on. But you have to have, the guy says, yes, there's deon- deon-rockford nuclear action, and the guy goes, nope, that's the National Dyslexic Association. I'm like, oh, geez. Okay. Exactly. I'm like tripping out.

14:38 So I hand in my test. That's a distraction somebody. I hand in my test. The guy goes, oh man, you almost aced it. Just had one wrong. You should do the general. I'm like, I didn't study for the general test. He says, you should do it anyway. It didn't cost anything. Yeah, it's true. But I literally had not looked at the general test. So I sit down and I'm like, oh my God, if I'd only looked at the test, I could have aced this one too. And the general is not that hard now, so I got like 15 wrong or something So I didn't pass that but I'll go back in a month and I mean come on is this is this is e this is almost like getting your pilot's license It's like wow, okay now I immediately I want to I want to get on the stick, you know I can't I can't be talking yet. I'd have to wait for my call sign and

15:26 But I've already I already figured I've got a repeater right here in Austin which I can access and yeah, but I'm what system I can get right into wins. I've been listening to wins all out all last night I was listening to the wind system. Oh, okay. Yeah, so I can get right in Now of course we could do the next podcast over the winds system on on on that ham On the I don't know. It's I think the 0.7 or something on the channel 7 you mean so no 9 to 107 No, no, no the 400 megahertz or whatever that's just your local node. I'm actually it's actually being right. I know my local no I'm just saying you whatever your whatever you can plug into it's gonna be some VHF right, but we have to frequency, but that's all over over stuff We got to have full do no no no no not on wins. Yes wins is is what are you talking about? Oh?

16:19 I've gone on and off and on, you just act like normal and you just wait for somebody to come back to you. Right, but you... You don't go over, I've never heard anyone say over. No, but I mean, you have to un-key the microphone. You don't keep keying the mic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. Right, so we need a full duplex system, but I think, it would be pretty easy for us to set that up. Maybe. I don't think it's allowed to do our show on the ham bands. Yeah, it is as long as you're not playing music. Government regulations. Here's my favorite question, and it's on the technical test, the technician test, as well as the general test. When is it allowed to play music on any frequency? As far as I know, never. Ah! Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh!

17:06 Yes, it's allowed when you're retransmitting a broadcast from mission control to astronauts in space. Because they have to play the stupid songs to wake them up in the morning. So that's actually a rule. That's a rule now. I can't wait. I cannot wait. It's gonna be so fun. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be all the hey, I'm monitoring John. What are you? Get one of those get one of those huge antennas and get down to that extremely long wavelength stuff Yeah, no, I got to do the 30 30 meters or whatever and have a full year where all the old codgers are and have a full full wavelength antenna Brussels

17:57 Probably talk to Pelsmark. No, then of course, hey ma'am, I'm talking to Brussels and 500 milliwatts with CW. That's how we do it be milliwatts to be you know 50,000 if you're using CW if you're using OC never make any difference right right then then you know like you're There I can't imagine that I heard a guy boasting about just that last night. He's like yeah I try to make it a 500 milliwatts to Brazil on CW 150 Hertz bandwidth I Got nerd points though got big nerd points on all that so I And I'll do the general that'll be fun, and then I'm into it now. I figured out how these repeaters work. It's cool

18:42 But but there's a monster, but basically it was bad enough. Oh, he does. He's never on it. He doesn't even do anything He never sees got his license. He got this huge rig in its place up there. Holy mackerel really He's got like a whole shack. He's got like some old somebody did a bunch of guys donated this stuff Oh, really? He got like free stuff Yeah, but it's not just free stuff. He's got like an old am transmitter from ksfo that's been rigged to right on ham. It's got like glowing tubes and it's unbelievable. It's like it's all been refurbished so it looks like it's brand new from 1932. It's like a TSA body scanner is what you're saying. It's just glowing. No, it's really no, it's it's really lame. He's got an old he's got somebody gave him one of those. Remember those old boards used to have with those giant pots? Huge knobs like a Heath kit. No, I'm talking about the in the radio station. There's all radio station stuff.

19:38 Oh, I mean you're like the mixer board you mean that the big old-fashioned with it with the big one the giant the two giant VU meters and the and the and the switch under each pot which means audition or program exactly He's got one. I'll take a picture of incentive to you to look at I'm jealous I'm jealous looks like it was just manufactured yesterday by the way I used I've done shows on those and then you had and then you had the turntable which We had like a gear shift So you'd cue up the record and you'd flip the gear shift and go boom. No, most of the, here at the US of A we did it all with felt pads and sliders. No, no, that was after the big gear shift. I used this in Salem, West Virginia. I used this at WITB. Yeah, fair.

20:30 I've never used one with the big gear shift on there. Yeah Anyway, and I was all I knew is slip queuing. Yeah. Well we used to build our own where we hit we built a we'd take apart a relay and and you take it out of the plastic housing and you'd put the slip mat in between the contacts of the relay and then you jerry-rig a micro switch into your mixing board so when the pot was closed, the fader, it would actuate the The magnetic coil in the relay and it would snap closed on the slip mat So when you open up that fader, then it would immediately start on your way. Yeah, we used to build those ourselves You thought that the ham radio stuff was nerdy Yeah, you know back to the show yeah, no one more thing one more thing I'm frightened. I'm now you know, I'm really living in Austin and

21:34 That I really settled down because not only they get my ham license because you shot an Indian One of our producers Charlie Thompson Who has been listening for quite a while and he's a this is great. He's a semi retired chip designer He took me up flying and introduced me to everybody in Austin Aviation So now I can you know start flying around again, and I know where to rent a plane really cheap and And it was, this is so awesome. You know, you've been to Austin Bergstrom Airport, right? Yeah. Big airport. And it's a professional airport. Yeah, it's not, you know, the problem, let me give a pet peeve out. So, you know, they had a really nice airport in Austin before they built this monstrosity that you're bragging about.

22:25 It was a cool little place, very much like the airport in Hilo, Hawaii or some, you know, very quaint. And it was, of course, on the, it was a kiddie corner to the other side of town. I thought, you know, it's just way, it's not even where the new airport is. And so when they built the new airport and I went there, I figured it was where the old airport was, like they did at Oakland, for example, when they had an old airport, they built a new one right next door. So, and I knew my way around Austin pretty well. So I start driving and I'm somewhere toward Waco by the time I figure out that I'm... because I was supposed to be going in one direction but I'm going in the opposite direction thinking that's the way to go. You went the wrong way, yeah. And I had to get a match. How the hell? And it took me actually a while. I finally ran into a cop.

23:15 I said, yeah, I got the airport. He says, oh, yeah, another one. Apparently this happens to a lot of people. Okay. So, so yeah. So that's your pet peeve, whatever. Uh, Austin Burks from airport, which is 20, 20 minutes from downtown. It's very professional. We can have a, you know, seven 47s as long as you don't try to hook up to a gate. Um, you know, but we've got Southwest America and we, it's big, it's, it's a, it's a big regional hub. And of course, they've got the naked body scanners and they've got their TSA and everything. So you go to the south side of the airport. which is the executive, you know, the general aviation. And there's basically two FBOs, two field-based operators. You've got Signature Air and then Atlantic Aviation. And you just walk in, you say, hey, and you just walk right through, right onto the tarmac, you know, and I swear to God, there's good old boys with their shotguns putting them in the back of their Cessnas getting ready for a weekend hunting trip, you know, on the tarmac.

24:18 You know, so I could have just walked through there with my stinger. You know, knelt down and shoot me a Southwest jet out of the air. The whole security theater on the other side is just laughable when you see how laid back and easy it is. You know, like, hey, how you doing, man? Yeah, I'm just gonna walk over here. Yeah, that's good. No safety jackets, no yellow jackets, no passes, none of that. Just go to the airplane, whatever you want. Love that. Oh, that's good. Yeah, so it should be exactly in any way So it was really great Charlie flew me around we looked at the the formula one track which of course is gonna be used In about what is it about in a month from now less than a month from now?

24:59 Yeah, that'll be a zoo. Oh, it's gonna be pretty funny and we flew me to the euro trash is gonna react to the city of Austin Well, the city of Austin is not ready. They have no clue. They do not understand what the euro trash wants They have no clue now. They'll be ready next year. But this year they're gonna be like what? Oh You want a thousand dollar bottle of Moet Chandon to spray over these people? What? You ain't gonna drink it? What? No, they have no idea. W Hotel is clueless. Clueless.

25:36 And they think that they're gonna have a helipad next to the W. Like, yeah, we're pretty sure some people want to take a helicopter out. Dude, you need the big Sikorsky 25-person helicopter. You have no idea what these people are gonna demand. Anyway, it's funny. It'll be good for Austin. They'll learn a lot. It'll be interesting. So I thought it was quite good of myself that I had not mentioned the flying until after I'd flown. But that was good for the continuation of the show. Yes, I keep it that way by the way. Yeah, you will never hear that I'm going flying, you will only hear if I went flying. It's their favorite method. Oh, so sorry. Oh, geez. Well, yeah. Well, just some kind of technical problem.

26:25 Yeah, they ran out of gas. Something was wrong with the motor. That is the technical description. Something wrong with the motor. Well if you had just tuned in, you are listening to... The Best Podcast In The Universe! Or as Governor Romney would say... No agenda for the future. No agenda for America. No agenda for a second term. Did you catch that bit? Yeah, I love this. I never clipped it, but I heard it when I heard it. It's funny because I didn't clip it either and I've seen somebody. Yeah, someone sent it to me and I heard like I got like a million emails saying, oh man, he said no agenda. And we get a lot of these where someone says he must be listening to the show. Like, no, he's not listening to this. He's listening to the show. I don't even look at those when people say, hey, this like fill in the blank. A politician must be a no agenda listener.

27:21 No. Yeah. There are no politicians in this country that listen to no agenda. None. It's not happening. Oh, the chat room. Who said this? Hell, they'd be annoyed if they did. We're so sorry to report that Adam Curry accidentally walked into the propeller. You got him by the legs. Yeah, I got him. I got I got his arms. Hey, what are you guys doing? One, two, three. Oh my goodness. And in the midst of all that I also was able to work on the show, found quite a lot of interesting little things going on, but I see that you've done the same. You've come in with quite a nice amount of clippage, which always excites me. Well, let me go through one of them right off the bat, which is, this is one of the, I took a bunch of the CCTV shows and I put together what amounts to a narrative. Oh.

28:20 And you can conclude for yourself what's going on. A narrative, does that mean like kind of a story line? There's a story line, when you play clip, we'll do a clip and then we'll say okay there's that and then you'll set them up so we know these are separate clips so you can kind of understand how the story is slowly developing. And then you can conclude for yourself what's going to happen, but I think it's pretty obvious. Do you remember on the last show we talked about how the US, or it was maybe the show before that, the US and Japan were doing these joint operations? Yes, yes, joint naval operations, I believe. Yes, to retake an island. Yes, an island which was not mentioned in the report.

29:03 Exactly. And of course the Japanese of course are having conflicts with two different countries about these islands. So let's start with this narrative. There's only five clips here, but I think you can come to some sort of conclusion of what might be going on if you play them in order. Start with number one. Japanese media says the Japanese and US governments have decided to cancel their planned joint military exercise on an uninhabited island in Okinawa Prefecture. The exercise had been planned for November 5th. It was designed to simulate the coordination of forces to recover an island occupied by an enemy. It has been the first planned Japan-US full-scale joint island recovery exercise held on a Japanese island. It said the cancellation of the drill has been called by Japan's Prime Minister, Yoshihiko Noda.

29:57 Okay, let me just see if I have this right in case there would be a mon write this down for a minute in case there would be an island that would need to be it was occupied and need to be Liberated okay. I've got it um um um my interest is peaked okay, so then we go to clip number two and Japan's defence ministry says it's increased the number of fighter jets deployed towards China and Russia since July. Japan's air self-defence force scrambled its planes more than 50 times from July to September, more than three times the number in April to June.

30:35 Japanese jets were scrambled over 200 times from April to September as a precaution against approaching foreign aircraft, the highest number in 10 years. It intercepted Russian planes 134 times in the six-month period. The two countries have a territorial dispute over four islands called the Northern Territories by Japan and the South Kurils by Russia. Well, the plot thickens. So we move on to three. Okay, to number three. Germany has given Japan the cold shoulder on the Dalyu Islands issue just as the British and French did earlier this week. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. First of all, the Bukake Islands, the Dalyu Islands, what do you call it?

31:22 That's what the Chinese call them, the Daoyu or whatever they call them in the Japanese. So apparently one of the Japanese foreign ministers, somebody went over to Europe and nobody would meet with him. We're not interested. We're giving you the cold shoulder. Yeah. So we move on to narrative point number four. Wait, didn't I? Oh yes, number four. Here we go. The team of seven naval vessels from the North China Sea fleet has completed a 17-day training and arrived in East China's Qingdao city. During the training, Chinese marine forces entered the waters near the Daoyu Islands for the first time.

31:58 The vessels conducted anti-piracy drills, international aid, anti-submarine and air defence drills. Missile destroyers and comprehensive supplement ship, the Hongza-Hu, took part in the event. So this wasn't covered much in the mainstream media on our side. No, we had the binders of women is what I recall. We had binders of women. Meanwhile, so the Japanese cancelled their exercise, but the Chinese went ahead with theirs and so the kicker becomes clip number five. And Japan has refused to join a UN initiative led by 16 countries to make atomic weapons illegal. Japan's Kyoto news agency says the 16 nations drafted a statement for submission to the first committee of the UN General Assembly that calls on all states to intensify their efforts to outlaw nuclear weapons and achieve a world free of nuclear weapons.

32:56 Japan, the only country to have ever come under nuclear attack, has refused to back the initiative after being asked to endorse it earlier this week. Wow! Hey, remember those Nagasaki and Hiroshima stuff? Now we think we'll kind of like be on the lookout for that. Wow. So there's your narrative. I can't figure out what might possibly happen in this situation. It doesn't look like a lot of fun. Or as we say, what could possibly go wrong with this scenario? I just can't imagine. Wow. And that was on China TV? Yeah, of course the Chinese have a

33:41 You know a dog in the hunt. Yeah, but it was pretty when I started picking up on this and I went back and I picked full pull these clips together because it sounds like you know this sounds like they're building up I mean and now there's you know, they're gonna know poo-poo the nuke thing. It's not good. No Wow Okay that that's we need to rearm Japan. That's what we need. Oh Did you know that the Germans rearmed Japan what could go wrong? Do you think what do you think that they? Are not armed at all. They must have something already. No. No, they got all these days. They have these fleet No, they got a Navy right minor but small but they have one and they can build ships if you you know Haven't ever noticed I mean for a while. They were the biggest shipbuilders in the world. Yeah, and then they've got a bunch of our

34:28 jets now this possibly could be you know we could be fomenting all this just to sell more arms because the new jets are really expensive well this does seem like like a pretty pretty decent idea considering our economy is based upon selling death machinery yeah I saw him this morning on there was a conversation Want to say maybe it was CNN they were talking about how awesome the awesomely low the Unemployment rate is in Virginia which apparently is like five five percent like yeah, okay It's Virginia is where the entire military industrial complex lives to then go into the Pentagon and all the surrounding areas to go work on this stuff and

35:17 Again, no wonder the unemployment is low and of course everyone there is on antidepressants Virginia is for lovers. Yeah Hey now Let's thank our producers. I think we I think we have two Yeah, we have two and one apparently. I didn't see on the original spreadsheet, but I guess Sir Gene, yes, Neftulia gave you $200. Yes, he did. Yesterday, after our farmers market shopping extravaganza, we sat down with Mike and Jane Malaro, who are Austin-based producers. Mike, of course, made the John C. Dvorak head on a stick.

36:00 that we took around the country on our Hot Pockets tour. And so they just got married, so they just come back from their wedding and honeymoon in the Cook Islands. Oh, the Cook Islands. People love the Cook Islands. And they said they had like a cabin for like, you know, 50 bucks a night right on the beach. Yeah. Which apparently, and I guess it's like nine hours from LA or something. They looked like they had a really good time. And not only that, but there's something in that there was some angle of the sun or something. You get this really unusual looking tan that's very attractive. Now, it's funny that you say that because Jean, Jean, Jane, Jean also looked attractive, but Jane looked smoking hot.

36:41 I don't know what it was, but I guess it was the angle of the sun. Actually, Mike looked pretty hot too. I ran into a guy who's a Cook Island offici- this is a weird story, but a Cook Island aficionado. A Cook Island expert. He likes to have a certain look to his tan and he goes to the Cook Islands just to get this look. Really? Okay. He told me, that's where I got the idea. He says the Cook Islands, he says, are the- Really? You get this weird tan that you can't get anyplace else in the world. He says, I just go there to look like this. And he looked good. Yeah, no, they both look really good. That's interesting. Okay, well, I'm sorry that we discussed this on the show because Miss Mickey was already like, hey, I like that! They look so healthy, don't you think? By the way, she talks like Marge Simpson. Like an old woman. Like Marge Simpson. Yeah, she looks so healthy, don't you think? Let's go to the Cook Islands.

37:32 But so yeah, you two should go to the Cook Islands. I'm sure the connectivity sucks. Yeah, exactly. So Sergine came down from Dallas and he had a meeting in Austin. He seems to have meetings from time to time here and he gave me an FBI Dallas hoodie. An FBI Dallas hoodie? Nice. Yeah. And, uh, you remember, uh, what he asked last time when he donated? No. Oh, yeah, you do. Okay, what? He says you have to play the, uh, the Atlas Shrug jingle. What about it? What about it? By Ayn Rand.

38:17 I don't when he donates. It's all he wants. He doesn't want karma doesn't want anything else He just wants to the jingle do you play well? He'll be the associate executive producer for show four five four and it's surprising that nobody came up with a four five four which is a nice Palindrome, but nobody did not only that but did you notice that the date I is is interesting it's One zero if it depends on which way you do it, but it's one zero two one two zero one two It's all twos. It's all zero ones and twos in the date. Yeah, very weird. Yeah, no one no one came up with that Okay, well, so what happens? No, well, we should have come up with it. I mean, but ours actually our executive producers Rob King

39:01 Who came in with $220.11. We have no, we're losing out here for some reason. Our people are not interested in becoming the executive producer of the show. But he becomes that by just because he had more. By default. By default, yep. And he's in Port Coquitlam in British Columbia, which I believe is by Spuzzum. Spuzzum? Yeah, Spuzzum. Is that above Jism? Sorry, never mind. I don't know where spasm is it's a it's a very Cosmopolitan town in British Columbia. Okay. Well, so it's everyone in BC knows where spasm is

39:42 It's short but it's sweet and even though it's two and we're always very very happy to receive any kind of support and quite frankly I think we're amazed from time to time that our product is good enough for you to feel that it has the value that you place upon it and we're very very appreciative of that so our associate executive producer and executive producer Sergine and Rob King thank you very much and if You, uh, you know, while you're considering supporting the best podcast in the universe, of course, you can always go out and, well, do this, propagate our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. So the president had his, uh, did his weekly YouTube address, which as you know, I watch religiously. Let me see how many people watch that today. Hold on a second.

40:49 YouTube.com slash Whitehouse I mean because of course the only people who could be watching it are I mean do you think citizens watch it or is it just See how many oh seven thousand watches it but you and some agencies from overseas 7,000 views seven that's a lot actually so let's listen to the opening shall we I have a Barney the doll singing that's got over 2 million views Hi everybody! I gotta get back into my Obama thing. Hello everybody! Hey, hi everybody! You've actually kind of lost it. Hi everybody! I gotta practice. Let's see, let's see. Hi everybody. Hi everybody. Hi everybody. In recent weeks you might have noticed something. Or maybe you heard the sound of it. Have you heard the sound of it? Yeah, I have. What could the sound be, John? I don't know, but it doesn't sound good.

41:42 New homes are going up. In fact, construction workers are working on new homes in America at the fastest pace in more than four years. At the same time, more homes are being sold. Home values are back on the rise and foreclosure filings are at their lowest point in the five years since the housing bubble burst and left millions of responsible families holding the bank. It's a miracle! It's just a miracle! I mean, it's also bogus. If you just listen, do you hear that? I can hear the sound of houses being built. That's right. So that, so that, I thought that was funny. But then I saw both the president and the, uh, and the ex governor,

42:32 at this thing called the Al Smith dinner. Yeah, you know I was thinking he actually... Now I got a clip from each of them. I figured it's funny because I looked at this and it was on C-SPAN and like, oh John's gonna clip that and then I thought, you know what? Somehow I have this weird feeling you're not gonna do it. You know I actually have a clip of clips and I just didn't I just I don't know I just didn't do it I think it was a mistake. I think so too because so what is the history behind this Al Smith? I never heard of the Al Smith dinner until this year. That's the history of it. Really?

43:12 No, that can't be because I've... No, it is... No, no, no, the history of it, that's my history of it. I don't know what the history of it is. I'm just telling you, I've never heard of the Al Smith dinner ever. We have been doing this show for almost five years. We celebrate our fifth anniversary on the 26th of October. The same day Windows 8 comes out, by the way. I know, I'm like, oh crap, we're gonna be snowed under. No one will be talking about our anniversary, it's all gonna be Windows 8. Um... And I don't recall ever talking about this Al Smith dinner either. It's the Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation dinner. It's held at the Waldorf Astoria in New York on the third Thursday of October. And it started in 1945, one year after this Al Smith guy died. Who was this guy? Al Smith was a candidate for president.

44:14 I Well actually, as I was watching this, I kind of got angry because all the press is there, because I saw Jake Tapper was tweeting and everyone's tweeting from the, oh ho ho ho, oh the president made a funny, oh ho ho, Romney said something very humorous, oh ho ho, but the things they're actually saying

44:54 Shows you how the press is and the elites are laughing at us cannon fodder while making jokes about it in private I'll give you a few examples Let's start with The president win or lose This is my last political campaign, so I'm trying to drink it all in unfortunately mayor Bloomberg will only let me have 16 ounces of it See when I hear that they're all laughing cuz like yeah, we're cutting the slaves off No drink for you. You know what I mean? You can see it as funny. I know exactly what you mean it. I here's the problem I have first of all

45:44 And written by professional comic writers extremely yeah extremely professionally written Extremely professional comic writers and the material is quite good. It could be done. It could be actually by anybody I mean anyone could do these jokes or do that there that kind of joke in fact usually fact give me the white tie and I'll be even funnier with it with my ticks with the Tourette's will be even better than the baby it would actually add some visual humor to it anyway It's self-deprecating in a funny kind of way and it's also insulting to the public who's been watching these debates because the two guys go make fun of themselves at the debates and make fun of the other guy. And the whole thing is, it's borderline, you know, I think, I can't come up with the right word to describe it, but there's something very insulting about it that I can't put my finger on. It's like they're either not taking this seriously or the whole thing is a big

46:40 Big joke. Big joke. Yeah. The whole election between these two guys that let Gary Johnson out of the debates and all the rest of the fact that this is a scam is a big joke. And here we are with our buddies in the mainstream media yucking it up and drinking and wearing expensive clothes and making fun of ourselves and having a great old time. And screw you public, because this is just a big joke. That is the message that comes across to me. Oh, in fact, I'm glad you set that up. You basically set up my clip. That's okay. I'm still making the most of my time in the city. Earlier today, I went shopping at some stores in Midtown. I understand Governor Romney went shopping for some stores in Midtown. See? This is exactly what you're talking about. We're all so rich and funny. Screw you, little people!

47:35 It's the same, you know when you're walking along and you throw up in your mouth a little bit. That's that's the feeling I get when I listen to this. We're like, oh, you know, you're not really sick to your stomach, but oh and then you have to decide you're gonna spit it out or swallow, you know, that's kind of what this is. And it brought back some great memories because some of you know, I went to school here in New York. I had a wonderful experience here. Oh, and oh yes, he, the black man went to school in New York. Oh, we Democrats are so happy, so happy. That's what that is, trust me people. Used to love walking through Central Park, love to go to old Yankee Stadium, the house that Ruth built, although he really did not build that. I hope everybody's uh... Alright, so of course Romney would not be outdone. I think

48:25 That Romney actually is a better comedian and this may you know it's very hard when you're you know when you're a comedian who runs a country I think it's I think it's just harder to deliver certain types of jokes and certain types of lines and Romney of course being the underdog almost has nothing to lose in this scenario and he had and I would wager John that the writing is done by the same people, the same team? Oh no, that's a possibility. When I did the Windows Roast back in the late 80s and they wanted me to organize everybody's material, I hired a bunch of comedians, or actually comic writers, and we put together a script for everybody.

49:10 Exactly. Everybody had, it was all written by the same guys. Exactly. So no, I agree with that. And they also had the same style of joke. Here it comes. Sorry for the extraneous applause there. I'm glad to be able to join in this venerable tradition. Of course I'm pleased that the president's here. We were chatting pleasantly this evening as if Tuesday night never happened. I credit that of course to the Cardinal. He has, uh, it's taken New York's highest spiritual authority to get us back on our best behavior. See, the laughing, that wasn't even a joke. That's how wired up these people are. But here comes the joke. I was actually hoping the president would bring Joe Biden along this evening, because he'll laugh at anything. I gotta tell you.

50:08 You can hear that was actually a funny. Yeah, no, but listen this is you can hear the joke people are laughing and then they realize what the joke really is because Joe Biden of course was laughing during the vice presidential debate when you know talking about death and mayhem and you know whatever the topic was Biden was laughing. See you can hear that second wave come in. And this is what bugged me about this because the press is there, the press who are now laughing. Yeah, wasn't that crazy that idiot Joe Biden was laughing during the most serious topics in the debate? But you look at television, where's ABC with Jake Tapper then saying, hey, the vice president looked like a dick. Why was he not a single person on television talked about that?

50:59 Unless you can show me the clip and that's what really irritates me. Here is the mainstream media laughing about the things that we are saying like the guy's an idiot. You know, you can't be laughing like a fool all the time during this debate and no one in the mainstream news said it. But they all know it. They all think it's funny. They all think it's a good joke when they're all yucking it up together, drinking their Chardonnays. Whatever that fancy wine is they got yeah, I'm sure it's Chardonnay as a matter of fact the You know we have an economic depression. We're in and there's a jobless crisis, and there's oh People are droning you know innocence in the middle of nowhere and and these guys are I mean it's really almost like Nero Fiddler, I mean it's it's very disturbing that I mean if these guys are gonna do this and

51:54 I mean it's like a club and that's the reason for private clubs. I mean you can go if they're in a private club. So you can do this without someone looking at you. And they had their phones off and no cameras allowed and they did this shit, we wouldn't be upset by it. And it's also I think more appropriate to do it that way because this is throwing it in your face. And they're both there in the same place. And now on Monday night... Both parties by the way. And on Monday night they're gonna go out there and they're gonna pretend like they hate each other and that like they're stupid and you know, now it's extremely annoying and I think we're the only people who really call him on it because the rest of the world is like, that was a funny joke. You have to look beyond the idiocy.

52:38 I picked up this clip. I just shudder at the thought of how idiotic this is. Well, you know what? I'm okay with it because the more stupid the press is, the longer we'll be in business. Just on the campaign issue, because you brought it up about the, you know, on the 23rd we do have the alternative

53:20 third-party debate which is gonna be hosted by Larry King I think streamed on the internet and it's like it's you know some channel like the oh the ONA channel or something I don't get yeah hopefully Victoria's Secret won't have something going on and yeah it's but you know probably we'll be talking about the will be ramping up towards the Windows release or whatever or there'll be some iPhone news or something that that won't you know will obfuscate even the live stream But the reason why this is all taking place is because we have the Commission on Presidential Debates, the CPD, and they sponsor the debates. And I went looking into some history on this. Do you know when this started, this CPD?

54:06 I think it was the second Reagan administration. It's fairly new. No, it's much older, much older than... Well, hold on a second. When would the second Reagan administration be? What year would that be? Maybe I'm wrong. That would be 84. Okay. So yeah, you're actually spot on the money. So the way it worked before is the debates, which were televised commercially. You had sponsors for the debates and then the CPD came in and then they arranged the sponsors and they're kind of like the front organization. But back in the day, it was the League of Women Voters. Do you remember this? The League of Women Voters? Right. And actually the reason for the CPD was because they wouldn't allow... There was something to do with third parties. I think they didn't want somebody to be in the debate and one of the sponsors dropped out and it became a scandal.

54:56 there's some crazy story that made this all happen. So I got the idea is to lock this thing down so we were stuck listening to these two guys instead of any alternative ideas or candidates. So I thought it would be interesting to listen to the 1988 announcement by the League of Women Voters who withdrew as a sponsor because the CPD was just all in now we're talking 1988 people who listen to this show some people were not even born in 1988 And this is how long this bull crap has been going on, that they've been molded this into two, only two parties. You can only vote for guy red or guy blue, guy A or guy B, or maybe woman eventually. And you've been, you've

55:46 a true representation of who is running for president has been withheld from you. And I thought it would just be interesting to listen to this minute and a half clip of the withdrawal of the League of Women Voters and the reasons, and just a portion of the reasons for it. Representatives of the two campaigns came to us on September 28th, just two weeks before the debate, with an agreement we were told we had to sign. The agreement had been reached by the campaign chairman and it spelled out everything. Between themselves, the campaigns had determined what the television cameras could take pictures of. They had determined how they would select those who would pose questions to the candidates. They had determined that the press would be relegated to the last two rows of the hall. They had determined that they would pack the hall with their supporters. And they had determined the format. The campaigns agreement was a closed-door masterpiece.

56:46 The agreement was a done deal, they told us. We were supposed to sign it and agree to all of its conditions. If we did not, we were told we would lose the debate. It's clear that the campaigns wanted the League's stamp of integrity on a shoddy product. Obviously, we have been presented with campaign demands before. We have agreed to some and we have challenged and negotiated others. But never in the long history of the League of Women Voters have two candidates' organizations come to us with such stringent, unyielding, and self-serving demands. In Winston-Salem, which you know was not a League of Women Voters debate, they went so far as to insist on reviewing the moderator's opening comments. It turned out that the League had two choices. We could sign their closed-door agreement and hope the event would rise above the manipulations.

57:43 or we could refuse to lend our trusted name to this charade. The League of Women Voters is announcing today that we have no intention of becoming an accessory to the hoodwinking of the American public. Under these circumstances, the League is withdrawing its sponsorship of the presidential debates scheduled for mid-October in Los Angeles. So this was 1988. Can you imagine what they're doing now? And I and you know this thing that came out on the internet this so-called leaked 21 page agreement about the debates I guarantee you John that's just a bullcrap red herring they threw out there like I'll go talk about the ties and about you know the Number of minutes and how you shall address each other there was a real agreement behind behind the scenes a closed-door agreement that we never saw and

58:35 That would make sense if you listen to her. I like the term hoodwinking the American public. Hoodwink? And that was 1988. Translate that to 2012, I think the hip-hop boys would say, they're putting a cap in your ass, gee. That's what it is. Hoodwinking. Yeah, it's a scam. Well, we've been kind of pointing this out now and again. But it's fun to go back and listen to something. No, that's a great clip. That would be a clip of the day if it was... 1988. It was a clip of 1988 of the day. But yeah, people need to be reminded of these things. I mean that's a really good find. Where'd you get that? From C-SPAN. Oh, good call. Yeah, C-SPAN has these archives. Have you ever dug through the archives and find a clip missing?

59:27 I think it's happened once or twice but it's happened to me a couple of times and I've never gotten a satisfactory response to my complaint. Yeah, it was really more like like but it was probably more recent clip not an old one but a but a recent clip now there's something else that I found rather disturbing so we have this new this new commercial from the president, which I guess is his people are calling it his morning in America. Now, this was it wasn't Ronald Reagan who had the morning in America speech. I believe so. And it was this they turned it into a commercial. Maybe it was a commercial. And it was, you know, it's morning in America and we're all going to, you know, we're all going to die. We're awesome. And America's the best. We're only starting. We've only just begun. And so the president has one similar to that.

1:00:11 And there is a big, big, big gaping hole of a lie in his campaign promise. But let's listen to how awesome he is in this 30 second clip. Every president inherits challenges. That's Morgan Freeman, by the way. Few have faced so many. I love it. Every so first of all, Bush done it. Four years later, our enemies. Do you hear how beautiful the music changes when he says four years later? This is so, so well done. Listen, listen. Yeah. Four years later. Our enemies have been brought to justice. Our heroes are coming home. Yeah, you know, there's a big sign of Bin Laden is dead when he says that. And now our hero... He's brought to justice? That's not justice, it's just vengeance. They've been murdered, yes. And our heroes are coming home. Assembly lines are humming again. There are still challenges to meet. Children to educate, a middle class to rebuild. But the last thing we should do is turn back now.

1:01:12 I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. And I'm spacing on where it was because I subscribe to like the military video channel and I get all these These video releases so I'd like a video package all you have to do is put your own voiceover and they have the actual B-roll and then they have yeah, we should do it actually a separate show and we just Write stuff. Yeah, I do it like that Space ghost ask different questions right

1:01:51 But it would only work in video and of course that's actual work, so we'll never do it Yes, exactly right, but the but one of the president's promises is I Will bring home our troops from Afghanistan in 2014 now. This is what he's saying correct currently yes That's what he's saying currently currently But we're not because we are the the mission will continue we and we already know that it actually will continue to 2024 But here is NATO discussing the topic. But we also expect contributions from partners outside NATO. Until now, six partners have announced that they are prepared to contribute to the training mission after 2014. Oh, really? The training mission after... Now just call it a training mission after 2014. They're talking about 2015. We are not leaving Afghanistan.

1:02:58 No, I wouldn't and this we by the way they could change it to training mission anytime they want because it's never been declared as a war Thank you. Good point. Good point. Yeah Constitutional countries outside of NATO that are getting involved. Yeah, he wouldn't say that's not in the report unfortunately, but I'm totally wondering well, you got some homework now So somebody has homework to do, someone of our listeners. Someone, someone out there. And of course, I'm ready to wrap it up with the president does have a new thing, his new slogan. You've heard this? No. Oh, please. Yes, you have. Yes, we will. Yes, we can. Yes, we won't. Nope. So much backtracking and sidestepping. We've got to name this condition that he's going through. I think it's called Romnesia.

1:03:52 Oh yeah, I heard this, yeah. Nice, it's cute. It's cute. He was killing it when he announced this. If you care to listen. This is where he was really funny. And nice to see he had nothing but women behind him. You know, with like forward signs. Goodbye love. Have fun. Thanks. Let's listen. That's what it's called. I think that's what he's going through. I'm not a medical doctor. But I do want to go over some of the symptoms with you. Because I want to make sure nobody else catches it. This is really good. They blew their comedic wad on this. You know, if you say you're for equal pay for equal work, but you keep refusing to say whether or not you'd sign a bill that protects equal pay for equal work, you might have Rhomnesia.

1:04:56 So he goes through a whole bunch of those, you know, a whole bunch of examples and that's Romnesia. And I agree, I think that was very good. And then he wraps it up with this. That's some Romnesia. So, I think you're being able, you're beginning to be able to identify these symptoms. And if you come down with a case of Romnesia, and you can't seem to remember the policies that are still on your website, or the promises you've made over the six years you've been running for president. Here's the good news, Obamacare covers pre-existing conditions.

1:05:44 I gotta say, nails it. Home run. Home run. It's not bad. I don't think it's the funniest thing I've ever heard. He was on Jon Stewart. Did you see that? Yes, and I have a clip, but let's see what you're... I have two clips. I actually have three, but one I don't want to play. Okay. I have two clips. I want to play the first one where he avoids a question that Stewart asks him about, you know, the Patriot Act and all the rest of it, and then he just changes the subject then he rattles on about one thing or another and then and then Stewart backs off and makes some snide comment and then the audience goes crazy for Obama. Which one are we playing? This would be the one, this is the clip that says Obama on Stewart with idiot audience. As it ratchets down I think people have been surprised to see the strength of the Bush era warrantless wiretapping laws and those types of things not also be lessened. That

1:06:41 that the strictures that he put in place that people might have thought were government overreach and that maybe they had a mind that you would Perhaps toned down. Well you have it. Well. You know the truth is actually we have modified them and built a legal Whoa what? To make them worse Structure and safeguards in place, but one of them on a whole range of issues now that they're not real sexy issues They're not the kinds of things that you're gonna Don't you don't know what I find sexy Let me put it this way, I mean I saw you flash what that states of great things. I know, I know. I know what you've been reading, but we're not going to go there. I appreciate that. I'm still the president. No, I understand that. I understand that. I respect the position. I respect the position, go ahead. Let's probably do that. I hereby denounce Jon Stewart as a shill for the new world order.

1:07:41 What a lame. He works for Viacom, what do you expect? Lame! Now the other clip I have, the other clip I have, I want you to catch, I think it's a technique that Obama uses. There's a structure of what he says. This is a very short clip. This is the interesting Obama technique of speaking. You may have caught this already, but see if you can spot it, otherwise I'll make you play it again. What's happened is we've got five million homes that have already, we've seen foreclosures prevented. We have a settlement with the banks that provides another 25 billion dollars to help the housing market. But the central question is there are a whole bunch of things that we can do right now that will make the recovery even stronger, put more folks back to work. When you look at what we did with the auto industry... You mean the even stronger? That's the only thing I get out of it.

1:08:36 I guess I guess I'm not here and what you're here. Let me just ask you that here Okay, you can play it again. It's very short. I just play it again and see maybe I just need a second pass. Is that okay? Okay Yeah. So what's happened is we've got five million homes that have already we've seen foreclosures prevented. We have a settlement with the banks that provides another 25 billion dollars to help the housing market. But the central question is there are a whole bunch of things that we can do right now that will make the recovery even stronger, put more folks back to work. When you look at what we did with the auto industry. So perhaps it's

1:09:17 Here's what I, on the second pass I hear him being very specific about 5 billion, 25 billion and then there's a whole bunch of things we can do. But that's probably not it either. Wow, this is even better than I thought. Okay, well here's what now you're gonna listen to it a third time and here's what you have to ask yourself. After you hear this, specifically, tell me what the central question is. We've got five million homes that have already, we've seen foreclosures prevented. We have a settlement with the banks that provides another $25 billion to help the housing market. But the central question is there are a whole bunch of things that we can do right now that will make the recovery even stronger, put more folks back to work. When you look at what we did with the auto industry,

1:10:02 Yeah, the central question is not a question, just a whole bunch of things we can do right now. So he uses the term the central question is to get your attention, your brain gets attention, because you're now going to wait for the question. Instead he gives you a pat answer as though it's the answer to some question that was never asked. There is no question. This is really good. Now why does he say here's the... Go ahead. I'm sorry, go? No, no, no. I'm listening to you. Imagine you dropping, you know, just say, well Adam, the question that needs to be addressed is we've got that new car in the driveway and everybody's happy.

1:10:46 I mean it's essentially it's a switcheroo right in the middle of your, it's a brain, it's another short-circuiting device. There is no central question, he doesn't ask a central question, he just says the central question is and then never says anything. I'm going to use this, I'm going to use this in everything and I'm going to try it out because I, you, so first of all let me, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you a clip of the day. This is a mind-controlling clip of the day so you deserve that first of all. See that short-circuits your brain now you think that you're cool. No, I'll get you later So I'm just gonna use it for every I'm gonna try to miss Mickey to the central question is blowjobs are great Hey, I can hear a significant delay I feel we have a delay for some reason

1:11:41 Like really weird. Should we just reconnect just to see if there's like something going on that we can just get rid of? There's probably nothing going on. It's just a slow deterioration. Yeah, we'll just disconnect and reconnect. At least I'm disconnecting and I shall reconnect. Did you reconnect? Of course. Of course now it'll completely screw everything up. It'll never work again. You back? Yeah, okay, I have to go back and fix things. Oh, no, you don't have to go through all that do you I'm sorry I should have realized Yeah, so here's the thing that I picked up from that interview I picked up something completely different because of course I get irritated by other things you you did a much better job Listen to what the president says in this clip you ready?

1:12:43 If four Americans get killed, it's not optimal. Right. And we're going to fix it. Right. And all of it. All of it. And what happens during the course of the presidency is that the government is a big operation. At any given time, something screws up. And you make sure that you find out what's broken and you fix it. All right. I'm sorry. When someone says if four Americans get killed, it's not optimal, you're a douchebag. Yeah, I had that clip. That's my third clip that I did, but I have the whole long one which is boring. But I didn't pull anything out of it that was interesting. I didn't hear that the first time. Before Americans get killed... No, if. If for Americans get... not before. Okay, if for Americans get killed is not optimal. Yeah, listen to it again, because it's really quite disturbing what he says. Here it comes.

1:13:37 If four Americans get killed, it's not optimal. That's right. It's not optimal. It's like it's not tuned, right? You know, it's like it's like yeah, this is like the Ford Pinto. Yeah, well, you know, it's a Ford Pinto concept. People don't remember this. They used to blow up, right? If you crashed into something, then the Ford Pinto would explode. If you hit him in the rear end, the Ford Pinto would blow. It's not optimal. It wasn't optimal, so they decided whether they should change the tank, where how it was built into the car, or just pay out the millions of dollars it would cost every time somebody gets killed. And so they chose to fuck it, we'll let everyone get killed and that's that. It almost sunk the company. Oh yeah, I remember. My grandmother had a Ford Pinto. She died of a heart attack by the way.

1:14:27 Not optimal. So the central question is, it's not optimal when Americans die. It's not optimal. It's not optimal for my career. It's not optimal for my re-election campaign. It's just not optimal. And there's Jon Stewart. Jon Stewart, who everyone hails as, oh, I watch Jon Stewart because that's where I get my news. He's so funny. He's so funny. He's really, he's so cynical. He really shows me left, right, it's all the same thing. He's sitting there going, uh-huh. Right. Uh-huh. He's got wood for the president. John, I'm so sorry. John, John Stewart. I've known you a long time. You're a dick. Really. You're just a dick. And I know the writers there listen. So, you know, play this loud when you're in your writer's meeting when he walks in and goes, oh, oh, I'm sorry. No, that's just Curry. You know, he was already, you know, that douchebag with the hair, remember from MTV? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he's just a dick. I mean, that's so lame. That is so lame.

1:15:26 Well, he's not gonna get him. You know, this is one of those things This is the same kind of corruption that you have with the White House press corps. Mm-hmm You if Stewart actually followed up with the questions or if Stewart did anything Like call him out on any of the stuff that he said including the one you just mentioned He Obama would never be on the show again The ratings never drop for those easy bonus ratings that he get probably gets extra cash for oh, yeah And Viacom would be irked at him Yeah He just works for, this is the problem, I've mentioned it again, I say it all every so often, this is the problem with commercial network television, even on cable, a problem that we don't have if we get the kind of support that we need from our listeners to just essentially help us continue the show by contributing directly instead of going out and buying a Lexus based on some commercial because we had a Lexus as a sponsor, we don't.

1:16:19 that's I think there's just perfect example so your Stuart kicks himself when he has to eat crap during these interviews so the central question is value for value donate to no agenda I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah that'd be fab You'll get the hang of that eventually. Because right now you're hesitant. With Obama he just blows right through it because he's stammers. The central question is, he's donating to No Agenda. It's optimal.

1:17:06 So we have a few people to thank. Let's thank them. Brad Doherty in New York, New York 13736 finishing off my knighthood with a 6969 swazzle and a 5555 anniversary and a 1212 donation. Looking forward to the next five years of hitting people in the mouth. His name is Doherty. I think I think it's Doherty. No, he says right here pronounced Doherty. Oh really? Oh, then I stand corrected. It's normally Doherty. Right. But I've known a number of Doherty's. But we will be knighting him today. That's nice. It's Jeffrey Wolfe in Edmond, Oklahoma.

1:17:42 111 11 double 55 55 feeling I need some karma for myself and family since one side of my family got wiped out this year hmm Oh aunt dad and grandma what I'm in a tough year especially work is killing it with stress give him a karma yeah absolutely sounds like you need a double dose you've got karma I don't like that Sir Jason Hoffman, whose part's unknown, he's in Gitmo Nation Pizza Pie, so I guess he's in Italy. I know it's been a while since my last donation. He donated $111.10. I was busy getting married right around the same time Adam and Mickey were getting married. I guess that makes us no agenda newlyweds. I wanted to wish the show a happy fifth and Adam and Mickey a happy marriage, so here's one 1.1. I sent Adam an email not too long ago regarding Skype.

1:18:36 And a proposition if you think it would help your connectivity issues but it sounds like you guys may be sticking with mumble. Yeah I have to say now that you know thanks to uh to void zero I think I think we're I mean not Knock on wood, but I'm liking it today. Yeah, well it comes and goes yeah, today's a good day anyway except for the donations anyway the multiple threats from even a handshake promise It's not optimal the donations are not optimal John you have to say it the right way the question is the donations are not optimal the central question is the donations are not optimal After multiple threats and even a handshake promise boner Jordan Kunkel still refuses to donate give him a douche bag and a two-day Give him an extra buzzer. You got him a buzzer too. Wow

1:19:26 A douchebag buzzer too. If by some miracle he actually donates during this episode then you may de-douche him without apology. Please send me a best podcast and karma combo for my new family and keep up the great work you two are driving at home with one headlight. You've got karma. You see, the central question is it's not optimal to be driving at home with one headlight. Raymond Williams in Lafayette, Louisiana, $100 on no comment. Laurie Industries in Riverton, Utah. Reading The Life and Death in Shanghai, $85 recommended by John. Everyone who is interested in freedom and liberty should read this book.

1:20:09 Hmm don't think it can't happen here when our government provides our jobs food shelter health care and dignity our government owns us We need to take back our government this November 6th. Yeah, well, whatever so it's life and death in Shanghai and you would recommend that is that yes on the show a number of times at least twice. Oh Oh, that's right. We have discussed this. I'm gonna put it in the show notes. That's what I'm- that's why I wanted to know. Yeah, it's a very, very good book and make sure it makes your skin crawl. So why don't we call it John's Book Corner? He needs a karma shot for everyone who still stands on their own two feet. Mm-hmm. Hell yeah. You've got karma.

1:20:52 John's book corner right next to John's hobby corner. Oh We're still up huh yeah, so to speak one two three four four Okay, yeah, we're getting low. Okay. It's almost like a hit 22. That's for sure black knight bill arkin didn't drac it drake it massive Massive tax nuts. 69-69. By the way, my town is pronounced Draycut. I personally refer to the Commonwealth as the People's Republic of Massachus-nuts. Anyway, I see your reverse psychology methods in play, but I shall donate 69-69 anyway. Really? Really? That's a reverse of the reverse. It is, which means we're moving forward.

1:21:44 You're the best podcast in the universe fact and hopefully the small donation will help keep the train on the tracks No agenda listeners do not let Dvorak and curry win keep the swazzle enough alive Now if you just tuned into this podcast for the first time don't worry. It's okay. It'll all go away by itself You don't need to know what that means. You don't need to know anything Just let it, let it just absorb it as a, as kind of a hole, as a, just feel the vibrations going through the body. Sir Marinoff in Eliso Viejo, California, 6969. Happy fifth anniversary. Please send some job karma by the way. The youngest Noah Jendonite is four months old today. Send him some growth karma too. Oh, that's nice. You're a basketball player. Look out. Yeah. Look out. Might be playing for the Knicks.

1:22:32 Port Orchard, Washington's Brandon Savoie. 6969 just received a check back from the local power company of 13938 which for those of you with calculators is exactly half of it divided by two is exactly 6969 this must be a sign so I sent half of it to get a MILF in the morning shout out to my girlfriend Rebecca. Wow that's cool and thank you very much for paying attention to the numerology and sharing the love. MILF that's one mother I'd like to have. Sir G, good morning man. Sir GQ6969 donating to have my non-donating but true believing douchebag girlfriend Sheena Hershey de-douched and a karma shot for the both of us. It's a birthday present for her on account of her birthday on the 22nd of October.

1:23:24 Oh, absolutely. It's the gift that keeps on giving. Nothing like a karma for a birthday. And a de-douching. Oh ho! Oh ho! Hey. Oh, oh, you know what? The jingle's not even... it's misfiring, which means it may be over. 69! 69, dudes! Alright, swazzle enough! On the way out. On the way out. retiring soon and now of course in celebration of our Fifth anniversary the 26th of October which is not a show day That the 25th is a show day. I believe the 26th is a Friday. Yeah, that'll be the last opportunity for people Yeah, so that's that's coming up and that will be our the end of it Probably the end of our donations for the 5555

1:24:11 But we do appreciate you giving us some value for value in that. We have a couple here, not a couple, is literally what it is. We have a good group. Sir Thomas Nussbaum, of course, in Virginia Beach, Virginia, where there's only 5% unemployment, 55-55, which is 5-5-5-5%. Bernie Atima Adama in Hinton, Iowa, 5555. In the morning, Adam and John Feppi, fifth to the best podcast in the universe. Here's a 5555 in donation of your five years in the new Daylight Donut Shop. Third week open in Sioux City, Iowa. I'd like an Atlas Shrugged, please. God's blessing to you both for the next five years. Thank you very much. This also immediately satisfies the second Atlas Shrugged that Sir Gene Naftaliouf asked me to play for his donation today.

1:24:56 Steve Steve bussinger Could be bussinger, but I think it's bussinger. In Erie, Colorado, 5555. Hail, citizens! Having a rough time so I could use some of that world-famous karma. Thanks for the hours of work you put into the show and the hours of entertainment you provide. I don't know what I'd do if no agenda ended. A friend of mine sent this to me and I thought John might be interested in it. It mentions a possible reason why blacks hate Don't like gays, and then he's got a link so I'll check it out later all right well Let's give you some karma because that seems to be what you really need you've got karma looking up all kinds of weird stuff Villarreal Billy Villarreal or could be Felipe, but I think it's thanks for Felipe. I think it would be Felipe Felipe Villarreal like that name San Antonio

1:25:52 5555 a college student running low on cash but this donation is long overdue. There's a college student running out of cash and he donates. I'll be traveling to London, England for a study abroad trip soon. Might make the trip over to the Saskatoon of France. Perish. That's a good twist. Yeah, any travel advisors for this long trip would be greatly appreciated if I can get a pair of my Nana manana car manana manana Yeah, that's one hot milf baby karma. I'd be greatly appreciated keep up the great work Okay, yeah, we can do that. Where is it? That's one hot milk baby, you've got karma

1:26:36 You know I recommended people especially haven't been to France before to get the Michelin Red Book for France. That thing is a gold mine. You can't get that on Kindle? I don't know. I don't know. You know I was reading something very disturbing. I think it's better to have the book than it on Kindle because you like to flip through it. I was, now this may help out our friend Felipe from San Antone. I was reading today in I think it might have been Wall Street Journal that there's a worldwide shortage of wine. Do you know anything about this? No, and I think I would. That's why I let me just see what who wrote this. Let me just see what the sources of this news. So world faces a wine shortage equivalent to 1.3 bottles next year after production slumped in France, Italy and Spain. Main suppliers, according to France's biggest wine cooperative,

1:27:36 It's historic. Bertrand Girard, chief executive officer of Group Val d'Orbieu said Thursday at a press conference in Paris, the Saskatoon, we're short of wine. We've never seen that in three or four decades. The global shortfall is expected to be at least 10 million hectoliters, about 264 million gallons. That volume would fill more than one billion standard size bottles. World production fell in the past decade, even as consumption rose. And then here's the pricing at the bottom of the article. There's already a scarcity of budget wines which account for 80% of consumption, typically cost between 2 and 4 euros a bottle. The price of generic bulk wine in Spain has already jumped to 60 euros from 30 euros two years ago. So...

1:28:22 I was planning on asking you, but since he's going to be in Paris, maybe you should stock up on some good wine if the prices are just going to rise. You can get better prices in the United States than you can in Paris. But do you think this is true that there's a global shortage of wine? I know that they've had the 2012 vintage is supposed to be a dog. So it's possible that there's something abruant and they've been, you know, this is funny because the French about two or three years ago were demanding that some of these wine growing regions stop making so much wine and either dump the stuff into the sewer or make brandy out of it.

1:29:01 and well, bullies for them. Well this is typical of the you know of the centralized economies. Anyway, we'll look into it. We'll have a little report right after the education report. Noel Vincente in Landing, New Jersey, no comment, 5555. Eric Bodenstab, Sir Eric to you, in Lauderdale, Minnesota, nuts, 5555. Andrew Gardner, Sir Andrew Gardner, sorry, Avenue, Maryland. Noah Gender Racing Team. It's right, 55-55. Happy birthday to Elliot and Chris Gardner and happy fifth to Crackpot and Buzzkill. Do we have... Oh, it's not a birthday, it's just an anniversary. Happy anniversary. Doug Thomas, no comment. Emmett Idaho. Emmett Idaho. Joel Rembach in McKinnon, Victoria or Melbourne. Melbourne. So he's in Melbourne. Melbourne. 55-55. Melbourne.

1:29:59 I just made a 5555 donation to you to mark your upcoming birthday show and just like my previous donation around 427 PayPal which normally has a big special notes to seller text box where I presume we are to put our message was missing. On my previous donation I mailed you but it was not read on the show. I would like to wish you a happy 5th and many more and to wish Simon and Alicia a belated birthday April 30th. Whoa. As he was the guy who hit me in the mouth and asked that you take all my donations and add them to his knighthood tally. I also want to call out Adam as a douchebag. DOUCHEBAG! What? For his general disdain of science. But his openness to science is in! What? Pushing against his arm with vials of colored liquid can cure his Tourette's syndrome. Hey, hold on a second. Hold on. Hold on.

1:30:54 How does he know that it's vials of colored liquid? He doesn't know that. He hasn't been to my doctor. He has no idea if my applied kinesiologist... Should I tell you something? I feel pretty good. I'm not on any slave medication, but just in case, I'll be trying the Hell doll. Because that is clearly what you think I should be doing, is taking the Big Pharma. Well, you do have a point with Big Pharma, etc., etc. Science and scientific method are more plausible than the charlatan you describe. I'm going to tell him, hey Dr. Rom, you're a charlatan. And he's going to go, well, of course. It's funny because that's exactly how he talks.

1:31:38 Dennis or Danny Haynes in gray stands New South Wales gray stands great stands I guess 5555 Elliot Gardner in York Pennsylvania in the morning donated today to celebrate my one-year anniversary with the ex cripple Krista and the new no agenda anniversary can you give us anniversary karma and a little girl saying yay so I remember I know who Krista the cripple is We met her at the Hot Pockets tour last year in Chick-fil-A, Pennsylvania. So I hope she's no longer crippled because it was just a broken foot or broken ankle. So yeah, let's see if we can do this for you. You've got karma. Yay! It's over modulated at yay. Tristan Banning, Toronto, Ontario. Short and sweet, just some hey citizen karma? Hey citizen.

1:32:33 You've got karma. Happy anniversary we need more media deconstruction. Well, we do what we can we provide as as it comes Lee Scarbick in Springfield, Pennsylvania 55 55 Amy Johnson and Norfolk, Virginia 55 55 I like to censor a nest bomb karma There's a whole thing going on there in Virginia with the lowest unemployment in America. You've got karma curiously so Yes, unbelievable Derby Dyke

1:33:25 Tucson Arizona no comment 5555 Jason Simonin in Jeff's town golf town golf's town New Hampshire great state the free or die 5555 keep hitting them in the mouth and give all the contributors some huntsman karma top with Heidi out you've got karma Remco van Dyck in Harlem 5555 is outside Amsterdam, nice little place thanks to the deconstruction and I a Curry fan since 1984. Howard

1:34:04 Sir Howard Guttknecht in Seattle, who I met with, nice guy, marketing genius apparently and he's retired on his laurels. Seattle 5555. Big congratulations on five years. Keep on pulling the wool out of our years and blinders out of our eyes and keep and make it entertaining enough not to be depressing, which we do. Byte Fair in St. Louis, Missouri. Missouri. Missouri. Missouri. Missouri. Missouri or Missouri, it turns out not to be important. I've been a $4 a week subscriber for a long time, but after hearing the episode where you busted Panetta for reading bull crap off of Wikipedia, I figured you guys deserve a nice tip. This is a good time to have a shot. We don't work for tips. We want to have a shot. We sent a cancer to one of the Goodwin family in Kentucky whose 13-year-old son died of a rare form of childhood cancer after beating it twice before. It's a sad story.

1:35:02 Also, can you find it in your heart to give a free douchebag karma to all the douchebags on your birthday? Yeah, of course. Douchebag! Of course. Karma. Douchebag karma. No, I'm not gonna give douchebag karma. Okay, well just give them the- okay. Well, it's up to you. You got the douchebag button, I got nothing to do with it. Perhaps they can be converted to non-douchebags if we give them more votes for Gary Johnson in the process. Love you guys. Alright, here it comes. Cancer. You've got karma. That's my new F-cancer sound. John Schweitzer, Evansville, Indiana, 5555. Happy anniversary. With more to come, love the show, and I mean it. No, he doesn't say that. He says, mean it by. I mean it by. There you go.

1:35:47 Love you mean it. That's what it is. Love you mean it. See it's like you got to say it that way. Oh I get it. It's an LA kind of thing. No it's not an LA kind of thing. Don't change. Stephen Rico in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. Karma for the kids and my MILF wife followed by a Huntsman and Chinese in the morning. You've got karma. Federico Borrego Escamilla in Mexico someplace. 5555 in the morning from Gitmo Nation taco. This is Federico Fritz Borrego. Mr. Since episode one, I wishing no agenda. Happy birthday. I cannot contribute what I'd like to, but as much as I can as possible and propagate the farm and to keep the best podcast in the universe going, I'd like a de-douching and karma.

1:36:44 And then he wants to know if we're ever going to be in Mexico to do a no agenda tour. No, there's never ever going to be a no agenda tour to Mexico. Sorry, never ever. I don't want to get killed. You've been Deduced. I wouldn't mind going to Mexico City. It's a gorgeous place. Well, you know what's great? Then you should go with Miss Mickey because she keeps saying I gotta get you to Mexico and I'm like no I don't want to go to Mexico because people get killed there. I'm not going to Mexico. So you can go with her. Brucella in Melbourne, Victoria. 5555. Five years the best podcast in the universe. I plan on having a no agenda nail clippers dot com set up in time for your celebration but failed. Oh no.

1:37:23 Anyway, keep up the great work. It'd be great to hear John's biggest pee from the last five years, followed by his jingle as a trade for some karma. Hold on a second. First of all, what a great idea for a product. Noah Jenner nail clippers. But they have to be the big ones because John's clipping his toenails, you see. It's not just his hand. Yes, obviously. I'm sure I'd start clipping. Curse snip. I'm crying. What a horrible product. No, Jim, no Clippers. As we continue, as he goes nuts, Scott Fuller. Wait, he has to give him, he says he wanted to... Oh, give him some karma. Well, he wanted your pet peeve and then karma and then... I don't have a pet peeve for the last five years. It's something I have to think about. Oh, there you go. You've got karma. My pet peeve is being mocked on the show. Scott Fuller coming Georgia.

1:38:25 Thanks for the five years keep hitting people in the mouth. Pat Deary in Sarnia, Ontario. Happy anniversary to the best podcast in the universe. Ed David Simpson, Milton Keynes someplace in the UK. Bucks. Bucks. Buckinghamshire. Thanks, big bucks. Thanks for five years of entertainment and analysis that's sadly missing from the mainstream media. Long live, may the show continue. Can I have some house moving karma? Yes, of course. You've got karma. Sir Sander Spergen in Zandam. Zandam. Zandam. 5555. And it means there's a dam there or was whatever the Zandam Zandam Zandam. You did reverse exactly. It's not Zandam. It's Zandam. Zandam. Thank you. You got it. I'll never do that right again. Keep on going for at least another five years.

1:39:27 uh... yakuba what she act in warsaw good one in the morning yaku board what you would see act i'm guessing and his work will check the alcohol jack yeah yeah i give a nation kill boss a here i've been uh... calling out been called out as a douchebag on show 388 by Marcin Brzezinski. I can't stop thinking about donating. The shame is crushing me. So here it is. Spare the jingles and karma. I'm going to move to Vancouver, Canada with my family in a few months. Any tips for living there? Yes. Go to Alberta and steal the money.

1:40:05 First of all, you'll like Vancouver. It's a very extremely pleasant town. It gets cold in the winter and it rains a lot. It's pretty much like Seattle. It's got a lot of cool culture, a lot of great restaurants, much better than anything in Washington State, I can assure you. And there's hookers all over the place. Oh really? Oh really? Wait a minute. You're telling me that there's good hookers in Vancouver? There's lots of hookers in Canada all over the place. Really? Hold on a second, let me check this. There's a site that I would know. Here, go to eros-vancouver.com. I'm not going to anything. I'm just looking at the hookers. Let me see, GFE, 19 GFE's.

1:40:49 That's girlfriend experience. Okay, fine. Onward. Ned Jeffrey, round corner New South Wales. Hello, Crackpotta and Buzzkill. Nedwin from Sydney, Gitmo Nation down under submitting my first drug donation to insert jingle here. To know whatever. Here's 5530. to celebrate your birthday and mine just passed I like a de-douching to relieve me of my boner ways and let's vote for jobs yay karma because I just got home from the holidays to find my sound like a Canadian now I'm starting to sound like a Canadian Vancouver you'll like it let's vote for jobs yay karma because I just got home from the holidays to find my company has been liquidated and I'm missing two months pay boo

1:41:42 You've been D-douched. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Asking for some brisk sales karma for work the Mac test software bundle Mac heist my case They really are not karma. I got this girl angel in downtown Vancouver my goodness He's smoking yeah in call and out call there you have it Call her oh So wait wait so she takes calls, and she makes phone calls a deal that means I think so oh

1:42:39 Yeah, Soren Larson in Vildberg, Gitmo Nation, Little Mermaid, she's in Denmark. He, no, Soren, that's a... It's a he. I think it's a he, yeah, Soren is a he. Yeah, Soren is a male's name, sorry, some of these names, especially with these crazy letters. Allow me to share an incident from a few weeks back. I was driving home from badminton, a noble sport I might add. Listening to one I should do it as I would have suspected you he would be speaking allow me to introduce Sharon incident from a few weeks back. I was driving home from bed.

1:43:16 A noble sport I might add, listening to one of your donation segments. I stop at a red light and just as John is wrapping up the donation segment and says go to Dvorak.org slash NA, a truck drives by me with the word Karma written in six feet tall letters on the side of it. Now there is a blatant hint if I ever saw one. It was time for another donation. So here you go double nickels on the dime. And he liked in donation credit toward knighthood of Mikkel Merch. With any luck the small contribution of the best podcast in the universe will actually secure him a seat at the prosperous roundtable where he will enjoy the Rubenesque women and luxurious rosé wines. I gotta write that one down. Rubenesque women and rosé wines. That's a good one.

1:44:05 Please give him a slight whistle, Karma. Shout, I do not have my whistle. And thank him for being a good friend and bearing with me through some of the rough times. It's much appreciated. Finally, thanks for the great show. And then we have anonymous or nickname from someplace with a bunch of Greek letters giving us 5475. We appreciate that. That will be our end of our donation segment for show 454. Nice palindrome that was missed out on. And we do have 456 coming up next Sunday. Ooh, that's a good one. So you could do 123456.

1:44:53 Yeah, you could. How awesome would that be? Yeah, well, or you could do four or five six seven eight nine ten. That would be better. You know, it doesn't matter. We'll be here. But of course, by next Sunday's show, I will have my call letters. Oh yeah, and you can come on with your call letters. That's right. By the way, people out there can go to nojendashow.com, nojendanation.com, dvorak.org slash NA is the main donation page and also channeldvorak.com slash NA is a backup. So the central point is, John, it's not optimal unless you go to dvorak.org slash NA. It's your birthday, birthday on No Agenda.

1:45:39 birthday says Joe Rambach belated that is to Simon Alicia whose birthday was an April 30th and sir GQ congratulates his girlfriend Sheena Hershey she celebrates tomorrow happy birthday from all your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe And then we have, well, one knighting for today. That was Doggerty, right? Dock-er-ty? That's... Dock-er-ty. Dock-er-ty. So if you... Oh, you already got your blade out. That's cool. Let me get mine. Hold on a second. Here we go. Brad Dockerty, step forward! step forward my friend with your donation today you have upped yourself into that exclusive club known as the Knights and Dames of the Noah Jenner Roundtable. Thank you so much for providing the value in exchange for the value that we give you here at the best podcast in the universe. So I hereby pronounce the Sir Brad Knight of the Noah Jenner Roundtable for you my friend. We have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, we've got Geishas and Sake, we've got Wenches and Beer, Hot Pants and Brews, and Rubenesque Women with Rose Wines. Here at the Knights

1:46:41 Table which is round Rubin s women and rose wines now if that doesn't entice you I don't know what will how many 1212 nights do we have do we have any 12 we have like one or two to about five mm-hmm now we're getting close to the 1212 period so we'll promote it more as we get closer yeah well it's it's already pretty darn close in my book I would say well there's also the other date the end of the world date Yeah, 1221, 1221. I had a question for you, Jean-Claude. Being the Wall Street commodities expert that you are, I'm sorry, the CBOE, the commodity exchange expert, can you tell me what the price of sugar has done since President Obama came to reign over this land? I don't know.

1:47:40 Is there a way to look? Can you go to a place and tell me what... Because we've seen this consistent war on sugar. We've seen, I mean in many facets, right up to Mayor Bloomberg of Nueva York, banning the sale of large sugary drinks, as he would call it, even though there's no sugar in them. That's essentially aspartame. Have you... have the chart? No, no I have nothing to do with it. I thought you would look at a chart. I'm asking you to look at a chart. Yeah, I'm working on it now. I just had to boot another machine because I refuse. Oh, very good. Oh, I have a chart here. No, no, no, I have a chart here. Okay. Ah, well then why are you asking me? Well, I just found one. Okay. When did President Obama become president? 2008. He became, what, at the end of 2008, right? So he started 2009? No, he started, when did he start? 2009.

1:48:37 January, yeah. January 2000. Okay, so I have here the price of sugar, US cents per pound, December 2008 was $11.32. A pound? Yeah, it says sugar monthly price US cents per pound. Cents. Well, the cents. I'm sorry, $11.32, not dollars. $11.32. And right after that, it went up, and when you see the chart, it's quite interesting. Has gone all the way up to a high in March 2011 of 2974 that is a yeah, it's rebelling tripled triple it is more or less and it has kind of stayed consistently at least double of what it was Can we explain this I mean is this just because it's like gas and it's just everything is doubled under Obama Is that is that is that what I'm seeing here or is there do you think there's anything behind it? I don't know

1:49:39 You got me befuddled by this. You have some theory and I'm just waiting for it. Well, I think I have a, yeah, I think I do have a theory. I think that it is, I don't know how you would manipulate a price of sugar, but obviously it's time for an alternative because this is the core ingredient of all things Gitmo. This is the core ingredient of, well, you know, all kinds of sugary drinks, for example. Well, it hasn't really been in the United States for years, the core ingredient. I mean, let me ask you this, since you have this theory. I want to throw this in there, which is, since in the United States, mostly because of the subsidies and whatever, most of the sweeteners used in almost all the sweet sickening drinks, if it's not aspartame, which is the diet drinks, it would be high fructose corn syrup. And could you imagine that there might be a new one on the horizon?

1:50:34 I would hope so. Well, I've got one for you. And this main for this one must is this one extracted from dung? No. Oh, it's actually even better than that. It is called senomics. S E N O M Y X. It this month just received the GRASS determination from the FDA. That stands for generally recognized as safe. And it has also been approved by the European Union. To be specific, Cenomex announces the approval of its Savory Flavors, number S2383 flavor ingredient in the European Union. How do you spell that again? Because there's Ceno... I ended up with... Sierra, Echo, November, Oscar, Mike, Yankee, X-Ray.

1:51:24 here's the great thing about Cinemax it is a it's kind of like MSG it does not Pepsi wants to use it right away yes you're getting closer it is made of DNA from aborted fetuses yes sir that's what they were up to all along and if you look into this It's you get that this has been going around for a while and they just got approved but and I never heard the aborted fetus. Yes, it's made. No Dutch fetus. Yes, it's soil and green. It's people John it is it is they so they they took DNA from I think it's the liver or no way in it. Let me just say the kidneys and

1:52:17 kidney of an aborted human embryo from 1972 and this it's the human embryonic kidney 2-9-3 known as H-E-K-2-9-3. It's a specific cell line and when this stuff is put into sugary or sweet foods it makes your brain think that it's sweet even though they've put less sucrose in it. So it is like MSG, where it is a drug tricking your brain into thinking that something's sweet. But really, it's not a sweetener. It is a drug very much like MSG made from this HEK-293, which is the human embryonic kidney DNA. I got you on that one, didn't I? Now I get to look into this. It's pretty funny. It's not funny.

1:53:09 It's disgusting. Well that too. So here's what I'm thinking. Sugar, I mean everything, too much of anything is not good in general. But sugar is of course important, it's a source of energy. I'd like the Mexican Coke. If I have a Coke, which is not often, if I can get a Mexican one, which is with real sugar, I will drink it. Yeah, I prefer the Colombian Coke. Yeah, but you shouldn't be drinking that. But okay, you made it funny in the middle of my... Now you've distracted me. The central issue is... The central question. The central question is...

1:53:51 Sugar is being taken out of your diet to make you weak and they are replacing it. They are replacing it with kidney DNA of aborted fetuses Enjoy that and have a what a ghoulish operation we run in this country. Yeah, and Pepsi is gonna use it Okay, so where it says we're on this topic This is the second half of the show, but this is pretty frightening. Pepsi is going to use it, and Pepsi comes up in this conversation too. So I picked off a, you remember we talked about Proposition 37, which is a California proposition that will affect the whole country because it's a labeling proposition, and if you do it in California, you've got to do it everywhere, and it becomes worldwide. So this is important for all the listeners. So Prop 37 makes you have to, if something's got,

1:54:40 GMOs, it has to be labeled as such or whatever. Now that which is almost everything we eat. Now you remember the show? We did this about a month or a month and a half ago. I played a clip. I know I had the clip. I'm sorry. I'm the chat rooms. I'm sorry. I forgot to eat my aborted kidney sugar. I'm sorry. Don't wait. You're going to listen to me. You're going to reach. I'm listening to you. I'm listening to you. I'm not reading the chat room. I'm listening to you. I'm with you. We had the clip of these two people arguing about Prop 37. This one guy says went on about something and the other guy says, oh, he says, yeah, well, that's not the way it works. And I would like to find some evidence that Bonsanto.

1:55:20 Yeah, let's ever contributed a nickel to the no on 37 thing. He says that we remember that I'm looking for the clip right now I'd like cuz I I'd love if you could find that clip is your gold do you get you I'll pull my clip of the day and give it to you How would you label that if you were gonna label that clip would it be probably prop 37 would be in there 37 asshole doctor or something like that Okay, keep going while I look for that. Okay. So meanwhile, while you're looking for that, I saw this ad against Prop 37, which by the way, begins with a false premise and I'll explain that after you play the ad, which is no on 37 clip. Okay, here we go.

1:56:00 As a doctor, it concerns me when families are given misleading health information. That's why I urge you to vote no on Proposition 37. 37 proposes a food labeling requirement the American Medical Association called scientifically unjustified. Administering 37's complex regulations would waste millions of tax dollars that could be better spent on health programs. And 37 would increase grocery bills for California families. Please join me in voting no on 37. Thank you. So they have a bunch of stooges doing these ads all over California and this one she says what bothers me is when people give misleading health information. Right. This is a labeling law. It's not giving information about anything except what's in a can, right? Where's the misleading health information in this story? Okay, that's beside the point. The real point is at the very end

1:56:55 of the ad they play at one of those little blurbs they play like when they sell cars you know that yeah a little disclaimer like a little disclaimer yeah so I wrote it down I stopped I have an HD so you can see read it I could actually read it paid for no on 37 colon coalition against a deceptive food labeling scheme sponsored by farmers food processors and grocers major funding by Monsanto company EI DuPont Nemours Bayer crop science Bayer crop science Syngenta Corporation grocery manufacturers Association GMA and more

1:57:39 And more of the following companies and more of the following companies as members, which includes, and I think these are the grocery manufacturer members, they just listed these companies. But again, Bumblebee, Bungee, Cargill, which my wife detests that company. They've taken over the meatpacking of the world. They're the ones that are causing the shutdown of small independent butchers. ConAgra, and by the way, which is a huge disaster. People should buy their meat on the hoof and take it to a butcher and demand they stay in business. ConAgra, General Mills, Hershey, Kellogg's, Kraft Foods, McCain Foods, Nestle's, PepsiCo, Rich Products, Soleil, S-O-L-A-E, never heard of them, L-L-C, and Smuckers. Those are your people. And Monsanto is at the top of the list.

1:58:31 So how does that relate to drinking aborted kidney feed, a fetus kidney? Pepsi was listed. There you go. I wish I could find that clip. I can't. I'll see if I can find it. I'll look for it myself. Yeah, but it just it just bugged me that this guy says that and there was no and I did try to find it. I couldn't find it. And this comes out and there it is. By the way, so, okay, go on. Well, so I think that this is, I feel this is more coordinated and it seems just listening to your entire monologue there that it is, that a lot of this is coordinated and set up. And to me, when you have the price of sugar for no apparent reason tripling and by the way, on the day the president took office, this, the price of sugar shoots up.

1:59:25 Has never come down to anywhere near the level it was before he went in on the day There must have been some they must have did people everybody must have known about something that the president had agreed to and closed behind closed doors and all the only possibility and we've only seen the war on sugar we've had the whole Just it's been continuous war on sugar We've been tracking it if you go to search that no agenda or na shunners calm and do war on sugar It's just tons of it And here we go, now approved, and just in the past week, in the European Union and in the United States, we have this Senamix and Pepsi's all over it, and it's made from a aborted fetus kidney. So, you know.

2:00:09 And I think it's really sad. You should just go eat a sugar cube right now because you're going to need it. In time for Halloween. Just in time for Halloween. Why don't they skip the processing and just package... Have us eat dead babies. Just package dead babies or aborted fetus kidney. Can you imagine? We could just call them kidneys. They're sweet and good for you. Have a kidney. I'm liking it. Hmm not good. No, but keep your eye on that one because there's a Something going on with that. We missed a big one John and this was on Thursday. No the 19th wasn't that yeah was the 19th Thursday we missed it Well, we probably missed a few things. What did we what is this one? We missed going purple going purple? Oh, yeah that ever took off it was going purple for Spirit Day I

2:01:09 Thought it was going purple for some other reason. No here's I'm looking at Whitehouse gov Or the other ones behind it. Yeah, I saw it on the Twitter feeds. I saw two people a couple of people say hey change your icon to purple for some reason or other it is So this on the White House blog the celebration to honor and support young people who have been victims of bullying bullying right is right right and you so you're supposed to so you're supposed to wear colorful purple gay purple yes so you won't get bullied it has I'm reading from the blog post it has become a day when people the world over rally for LGBT community and speak out against the bullying of LGB teens and this year the White House is once again going purple online you could check out does anybody think that this is a to gays

2:02:03 we have gay listeners, isn't this kind of a disgusting stereotype, this purple thing? Yeah, I know it's about gay, so let's go purple and normally come on pink so it's kind of that well pink or purple I don't care or mauve Lavender I don't like me. It's bullcrap. Let's go lavender for gays Lavender for lesbians everybody that I think is stereotyping. I think it's got everything it's Stereotyping yes, sir Lavender for lesbians, that's something I could get behind actually I Well, that's you.

2:02:54 And I didn't see this take off at all. You can go to stopbullying.gov. Have we ever looked at stop changing your icon color dot gov? Have we ever been to stopbullying.gov? Have we ever checked this website out? I'm sure it's an 18 million dollar website. Go check it out. Hold on, it's not really responding. We've swamped the website, I think. Probably oh yeah, you have to do www otherwise doesn't what yeah? What is bullying cyberbullying who's at risk prevent bullying respond to bullying? Oh, this is great. This is a great website Assess bullying. Oh we have do we have a test oh?

2:03:36 Assessments such as surveys can help schools determine the frequency and locations of bullying behavior. It's like ham radio operators. They can determine the frequency and locations of bullying behavior. Hold on a second. You have the right equipment. John, can you assess the frequency? Do you have the frequency and the location? We know what we gotta do, we gotta actually, you gotta hook up your rig, and I'll hook up my rig, and then I'll actually, I'll talk to you through the rig, and it'll come back through your microphone. How cool would that be? Yeah! Yeah! Alright, I gotta look at that site later, there's too much going on there. Too much going on. So that wasn't the only celebration. Well, do we wanna talk about the FEMA camps?

2:04:34 What do you have something on the FEMA camps? Well, no the FEMA has these new Children brigade that they're putting together. Oh, really graduated their first class. Oh, really? I I miss that Yeah, I'm trying to find my link to it. You have a link on that somewhere Look up FEMA FEMA volunteers or something like that. Oh, I mean to your graduation Yeah, do they have a prom? Uh, no, there's no dancing allowed. Federal government graduates first class of Homeland Youths. Oh! Yes, Homeland Youths! It's the Hitlerjugend! Totally! Let's see... First class of 231 Homeland Youth kids, age 18 to 24, recruited from the President's AmeriCorps volunteers. Oh, this is great!

2:05:28 Do we have video? Welcome to the FEMA Corps Inaugural Class. Fantastic, John. But there's no video on it. No, there was actually there was one piece of video I don't know didn't clip it but because it was pretty dull of the guy thanking them for joining and how important it's going to be for them to carry on during disasters and is all part of Homeland Security's I think it's called civilian Corps which is another one of these things which is a for older kids. So you have something to aspire to.

2:06:04 Yeah, this is totally the young communist Russia, the Hitler youth, I'll just call them the Politano youth. I sent you a link of two signatures. Yes, and I have- I put them in the show notes under JCD Clip so people will be able to find it easily. And it's a signature of a- hold on a second. Of Arnie- hold on. I have the video of the Obama's youth. There you go. Hey, they're marching. They're happy. Do they sing?

2:06:48 now they're singing they did um that I'm forward forward we love the homeland okay this should call them the Obama youth so so yeah these two signatures now tell me that these these aren't two signatures of would appear to be people with brain damage. Have you ever seen either prisoner signatures or people with brain damage signatures? Now hold on, have you been watching a documentary or did you read a book or something about the signature analysis? This didn't come out of the blue. Yes. Okay, see? I'm telling you, these are two signatures. These people have some mental issues.

2:07:41 People can go look at these signatures for themselves and tell me if you think these people are normal. Whose signatures are they? I'm going to tell you. First of all, I'm giving the chat room the link so that they can... I think this will work. There we go. The chat room gets the link so they can participate. So it's Arne Duncan, Secretary of Education, and Janet Napolitano, Secretary of Obama Youth. And I'm looking at... So Janet looks like her signature is almost like JAT. JAT and Plankton. Unless she's French, that signature is horrible. But Arnie Duncan's looks like a 10 year old did it. Yeah, it's kind of, it looks like he's trying to draw a caricature of something. Like of two waterheads.

2:08:35 And can you read either of those two signatures? I mean, and they're not stylish. It's not like they're jazzy signatures that you can't read. These are signatures that look like they're trying to write. I believe that neither one of them can write in cursive. So let's go to, let's cut to the chase here, because you read a book, you saw a documentary, and you have clearly analyzed these two signatures. Is this from the book or did you just grab these at random? And what have you learned? No, I saw this on one of the documents, one of these Hitler, I'm sorry, Obama used. documents they had signed off on this thing, these two, they have something to do with it. And I said, oh my God, these signatures are horrible. And then I referred back to my expertise in signature analysis and decided that I should mention it on the show. Okay, so that's it. Well, could you just summarize it by telling us what have you learned from the signature of Arnie Duncan and Janet Napolitano?

2:09:31 They're two psychos. But can you define what just like insane? I wouldn't trust them in a dark room. Let's just put it that way. You would not hire them is what you're saying. Ever. No, I would never. No, no. If anyone had those two signatures, I would never hire them in a million years. And luckily there's no law against that yet. Well, I look forward to the FEMA region six Hitler Youth graduation. They'll probably have a prom. which consists of dressing up in snappy uniforms, brown shirts with armbands. We need armbands. I've always thought the Obama logo would look terrific on an armband. So of course we're wrapping up Cybersecurity Awareness Month. We still have about 10 days left to go and we've been all over this. We've been very, very pleased with how everyone is scaring business and consumers

2:10:27 I think the media has done a great job and of course the commercial media has been doing this but we also see that our national treasure of public broadcasting, this is the one that we want to save because they are completely independent of anything, anything at all. Don't watch the ads. Completely public which means they're good, it's good food for you. They wrap up Cyber Security Month with a 15 minute piece. I have chopped it down into three small, small chunks. First an introduction which is basically a wrap up of everything that has happened so far in Cyber Security Month. They turn to a new cyber campaign against American banking giants and growing worries about what they might foreshadow. It began late last month and continues to this day.

2:11:20 Two more US banks are the latest targets in the spate of cyber hits on American cyber hits John I got to stop this one cyber hits they took out a hit baby. It's a cyber hit Financial institutions this week capital one and BB&T suffered disruptions on their websites leaving customers without access to their accounts A group calling itself the Qasem Cyber Fighters claim responsibility and said the attacks are in retaliation for an anti-Muslim video. Oh, really? Now remember, they're summarizing the entire month, so of course this was written in preparation for the celebration of Cybersecurity Awareness Month and they kind of threw that Muslim video thing in there just for good measure. You know, it's as if somebody paid

2:12:10 for the idea about the Muslim video on their kid just want to get their money's like you know they went to a consultant they came up with a story what's our ROI on this on this puppy yeah we got mention it more we got jipped on that video man what's our return on investment but some US officials like Connecticut senator Joe Lieberman blame the recent uptick of attacks on Iran and its elite security force security for I just want to point out it is the elite security force this is PBS this is a serious news organization reporting Jolie run who doesn't even say the word elite does not come into his mouth they are calling it the elite cyber force he spoke last month on C-SPAN I think the

2:12:57 that this was done by Iran and the Quds Force, which has its own developing cyber attack capacity. Developing cyber attack capacity? Oh, I'm hard. I believe. I believe. I believe. It was a response to the increasingly strong economic sanctions Also blamed on Iran, recent hits on Saudi Arabia's state oil company Aramco and Qatar's natural gas producer Rasgas that disabled 30,000 computers entirely. And Defense Secretary Leon Panetta warned last week that the threat to America's vital infrastructure throughout is rising. The collective result of these kinds of attacks could be a cyber Pearl Harbor.

2:13:52 An attack. Okay. Now, I know lots of- What is different about this than what we've already played in the Pearl Harbor episode? Hold on a second. Just chill, okay? Just chill. Here's what's different. First of all, we're ahead of the game. We by weeks. Thank you. So we played it. We played a significant amount of the cyber Pearl Harbor a cyber 9-11 attack that's not on PBS John I know lots of people smart people. He my uncle I know uncle Don and Aunt Meg they watch PBS. They're gonna be sitting there going damn. The Iranians, they're coming for us. They're cyber attack. They got elite troops. You know, these people, you and I understand this type of thing. We have grown up in a different era where we've grown up with the technology. We know what's bull crap. We smell bull crap a million miles away. Most people trust PBS. They trust it and they're like, wow, we're under attack.

2:14:50 This is very, very serious. We have the Secretary of Defense talking about a cyber Pearl, a cyber 9-11, a cyber Pearl Harbor. Okay? So this is a big deal for this to be on PBS. These bull crap lies. So, the way you underwrite- I didn't know he could code in Pearl. So the way you underscore this is by bringing on a couple of experts and then to have a conversation about it so we can really stick the knife in to get people to really, really believe in this crap. And for more, I'm joined by Michael Leiter, director of the National Counterterrorism Center from 2008 to 2011. This is the guy who got kicked out.

2:15:30 I doubt because he made some sense but he's really shilling but that's not the guy I want to focus on it's the other guy at the table. And Rodney Jaffe, senior vice president at Newstar, an information services company that provides cyber security for private and government clients. Now really? It's a commercial! Okay, what's it called? Newstar? Newstar, really? When you go on I'm going to mention something I should have a disclaimer in here. Yes. I know Rodney Joffrey personally. Oh really? Yeah. How do you know him? I've known him for, I don't know, 20 years. In his cyber star capacity? He's always, he has run, uh...

2:16:11 You know he's always got some other businesses. He's always in some... I think... He's a scammer! He's a scammer! Yeah, but he's a very knowledgeable scammer. He's not like a dumb guy. Well hold on, this is very interesting because I was watching this guy. No, he's not dumb at all, but I was watching him sell. He's a salesman. He's an ultimate salesman. And I literally said to myself, I should bring up on the show that the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group should be working with these guys because we could make, we could become hundred millionaires. Just listen to the bull crap he's spouting. Listen to it. In 2009, he designed a scenario for a government exercise in how to defend against cyber attacks. A false flag is what he designed. Yeah, I know about all this stuff. Well, hold on. First of all, Mr. Jaffe, banks have tried to defend themselves, yet they were really outgunned in this case. What does that tell you about the growing level of sophistication of these hackers? So as Michael has said,

2:17:12 The banks really are the best prepared. That's where the money is. And so they've been working for many years and as a sector, they're very well prepared. What's different about this is that the people behind the attack, whoever that may be, were very very knowledgeable about how the internet worked and so what they've been able to do is on an almost day by day basis overcome the defenses and sort of take an extra step forward and so even though there was warning in fact almost all of the banks have had days or weeks of warning. They announced it right? They announced it in a public post even though that was in place it was very difficult for the banks to defend themselves. Now, so he

2:17:49 First of all, he's lying because it is not very, very difficult. It's a denial of service attack. And if you're working with your ISP and you're working with a number of different entities, there are many ways to circumvent a denial of service attack, specifically if it is announced ahead of time. But that's not in the bank's interest, you see. And that's not anyone's interest because we need to have all kinds of money making schemes of which your friend Joffrey, Joffy, Jokey, he's a part of it. I would like to recommend John that you give him a call yeah I think I will and tell him that the use of the money curry Dvorak consulting group is extremely interested in working with the Was it white star cyber star I never heard of them star? Every time he goes some new company usually get a call We want to work with this Death Star computing company Because we can make a

2:18:47 killing on this stuff. Alright so I'm gonna wrap it up now. This and this is funny now you'll hear in this this is so much a commercial that the guy who used to be the cyber intelligence director he messes up the promotion. Oh no! And the PBS woman helps him out! Which of America's adversaries out there, Michael Leiter, have this technological know-how or are on the verge of it, of being able to mount systemic attack? Now, this is a very easy question. She's setting him up. It's a... Can you see the alley-oop coming? It's an alley-oop! All he has to do is just jump on the trampoline and tap it in. So, can he do it? I mean, is it countries like Russia, China or Iran? Is it... He's giving him the answers! Is it criminal elements? Is it...

2:19:40 What is the correct answer? Well, it's all of the above obviously. That's the correct answer. That's the... That's the... slam dunk. Jihadis who? I'll start with ones who are actually not that great and that's terrorist groups. Although they have some capability, they're not the strongest in this regard. The next is organized crime. And organized crime, largely out of Russia, has really incredible sophistication. And that then links to the state threats. And by far the most able in that regard are China, which has been identified as a serious national security policy of using cyber terrorism or cyber theft, and Russia. The other issue we face is that those hackers are also being rented out by states and by others. Oh, oh! What has happened here, John? What has happened?

2:20:26 It seems like the guy went off the track and failed to mention Iran. So we have an alignment of interest here among some states and some organized criminals which makes this threat that much more difficult to defeat. And you didn't mention Iran. I didn't mention Iran and I should have so thank you. He didn't mention Iran because he knows that there's no threat from them. Right, but then he said, but thank you. Unfortunately, he was telling what he knew and then, oh, I forgot about the script. I forgot the script. Listen. The CEO of PNC Bank, one of those banks that was attacked over the past couple of weeks, blamed hackers in Iran for this most recent attack. He forgot the script.

2:21:15 But she's so helpful. But you, ahem, hey, uh, douchebag. Yeah. Cause of course she's getting in her ear. She's getting like, you know, you forgot to Iran. That's pretty funny. That's a good catch. That would be a clip of the day. We can't have two clips of the day. I know we, and on this show we probably have opportunities for 10. But can you call Jaffe? Yeah, I'll call Jaffe. Jaffe or Jaffe? What's his name? Jaffe as far as I remember. You should just say hey! Hey man! Hey man, you're making money again! How you doing man? You're making some dough over there. You're making some bank! We need some, uh, we need some of it. So I do have a clip that I want to play. Sure.

2:22:06 I'll set it up first, it's a clip of drones on SVU. So I'm wondering what's going on, law and order has been kind of killed and there's only one lousy SVU show left and they're bringing in some of the old hacks from some of the other shows. and so they brought in this woman from a special victims unit who used to be partners with the no free oh and they couldn't even make some some comments about that she's in some woman's face was uh... domestic terrorist but actually she came over she i'd like is a palestinian or something i i only caught the end of the show but all i needed to catch was the end of the show because there is is very interesting little tirade that is hard to understand cuz the acting is again mediocre and you and this woman's putting on some middle eastern accent that i've never heard before she sounds like

2:22:50 Anything but someone from the Middle East and but there's a message here that I said whoa This is coming off of NBC. This is weird Don't you think they should understand? Don't you want them to understand? My father was a doctor a drone struck some people near where we lived My father went to help

2:23:34 to tend the wounded. He was not a fighter. He was trying to save lives. Stop the bleeding. The double tap. And then, another drone hit. Your government targets the rescuers. It is standard policy. My father, he was blown into pieces. We buried the ones we could find. So you came here. This is where the drones came from.

2:24:24 Okay, first of all Wow This is the drone double tap that everyone's been talking about and these shows they're yeah now. It's on television, but they're produced and written Months if not sometimes a year in advance and now they time it out So we have the drone double tap right when everyone's talking about the drone double tap Wow and that odd no no no no no Naturally. No, no, no. It's not odd. It's just all part of a drone again. Naturally. Have you been singing the song, John? Have you been singing it?

2:25:02 Actually, luckily I got it out of my system because it sounds like a Beatles song which my brain rejects It's not a Beatles song. It's a Gilbert O'Sullivan's a drone again Naturally, you'll be singing Beatles to me and every single time you sing the song every single time you sing the song you have to think I have to donate to a kid. Yes. I have to donate a drone again donate now Wow, good one. I don't know what the message is there. I mean, I think it's obviously it is planted and it's educational. It's funny, the whole clip when it goes on, it's just weird. It was a weird, very weird clip and a very weird show. Well, that's very interesting. I'm trying to think where to go with this. I mean, there's something going on in your neck of the woods. It's kind of a long clip. It's like two minutes.

2:26:00 But it's about drones in San Francisco. Are you interested? I mean, why not? Oh, there goes one now. Used in military combat, but now aerial drones are being considered by local law enforcement. Why? As a cost- Why? way to use technology to fight crime and save lives. Let me see the area, Stephanie Tronkin. To save lives. Live in Oakland with the details. And Stephanie, there are fears that the use of these drones could be an invasion of privacy. Now, you have to know, so she is standing in the parking lot of Oakland Airport, which makes no sense. Janelle, that's right, concerns over privacy and civil rights. Now, the Alameda County Sheriff's Office is the one bringing this idea up, and I have to say it is very preliminary at this point. But here is a picture of a drone that they tested just two months ago, that the office tested two months ago. A handful of law enforcement agencies in the country have gotten federal approval to use these drones, and if Alameda County Sheriff's Office does so, it would be the first in California.

2:27:02 You'd be able to see what the drone is seeing as it's flying. At four pounds and four feet wide, this drone gets a bird's eye view that tactical officers on the ground are often blind to. It could save lives. In this demonstration at the county's Office of Emergency Services building in Dublin, it's a man standing in the shadows on a rooftop three possible explosives in his reach near priceless it's a valuable to any time yeah keep listening because there's some important information keep listening cuz I'm gonna give you a website in a minute the law officer as you're setting up your perimeters and knowing what what the suspect may have in his hands, how the suspect is dressed, what are the avenues of escape. Alameda County Sheriff Greg Ahern says his office would only use the drone during emergencies. Pursuing a suspect on foot or pursuing a vehicle in an area or search and rescue or disaster. And for proactive policing like catching marijuana fields on public lands. They do have infrared capacity. And in grow houses. One of the most valuable assets, a live

2:28:04 video feed. You'll be able to see what the drone is seeing as it's flying. But not everyone's a fan. The ACLU wants drones only deployed when there's a warrant. and is worried they might hurt privacy and people. Quote, drone manufacturers are also considering offering police the option of arming these remote-controlled aircraft with weapons like rubber bullets, tasers and tear gas. Sheriff Ahern says an armed drone is out of the question. Adding local agencies need to capitalize on innovation. I think it is a no-brainer. And in two weeks, the Alameda County Sheriff's Office is hosting Urban Shield. That's a preparedness exercise involving about 30 local law enforcement agencies and they will be testing out a couple of drones to see how they do in real-life situations. Okay. Now go to urbanshield.org

2:28:56 Okay, because this is now taking place in your town urban shield org and you will see once you've looked at it that this urban shield Which is they're gonna have these it's basically gonna be flying Yes, you can this is a military industrial complex sales show Look at it urban shield 2012 title sponsor 5.11 tactical series you see the boy the banner Click on the 5- go to 511tactical.com. I don't see that. It's a huge banner! Right in the- right in the- How can you miss it? I don't have that banner. Okay, you go to urbanshield.org. Oh, this one, yeah. It's the- it's... huge. Title sponsor. Look at it, look at it. 511. Always be ready. Look at- look at what they got. Anyone who has a pair will tell you how great they are. Yeah. This dude-

2:29:57 this is a sales show they're gonna buy any two tactilite pro pants or shorts for clothes yeah but this is but just look and receive a free a free a tech a1 flashlight look at the 495 value but go to the vendors tomo code have a pair go to go to the go back to urban shield org and go to sponsor registration I'm sorry. What is it the vendor show? It's a vendor show. I mean the whole thing. The whole thing is it's just to sell crap to police stations. Yeah, because they got all this extra money from Homeland Security. They got to spend it somewhere. Yes.

2:30:39 It's unbelievable. This is so disgusting. And look at all the... I gotta go to this. Well, it's gonna be over your head, man. I wanna see what the Hazmaster G3 actually does. Where do you see that? The Hazmaster G3 is a product of alluvium. Where's that? It's on the list of the vendors. Oh, let me check. I clicked on the vendors. I got Adamson Police Products, Aplanix, the alluvium. Athenix, a San Diego-based woman-owned surveillance and incident management custom solution provider. How about Black Diamond Tactical? ATK Blackhawk, established market leader in sporting and law enforcement ammunition. Avon Protection. Black Diamond Tactical. There's 20 pages of these things. Let's go to the end to see what we got. The Ed Jones Company.

2:31:34 Oh a company that makes badges Cisco is in there to Cobalt Colt law enforcement. This is huge. This will be fun Yeah, you should go you can get in a press pass and go into this you can be it. Where is it? You can be a volunteer It's it's all over screw that you can be a volunteer come on be a volunteer. I don't be a volunteer I'm gonna go take some photos and leave okay, October 26th Yeah, urban shoes, full scale, regional. That's our birthday. You can celebrate our birthday with a drone. Maybe. Is there going to be an exhibition or what? I can't figure this out. Isn't this awesome? Good catch. Yeah. And just as we wrap it up here, let's check in with one of our favorite elites.

2:32:22 And let's see what is going on in the world of Hillary Clinton, better known as Lucifer Clippity-Clop. The message is clear. Where could she be? Where's she going? All right, happy Friday. I know that Matt has a date this afternoon, so we will get right to it. Toner's got a really big mouth. He does. He does. I love Toner's thing now. They have so much fun there at the State Department. Okay, I have a couple of things at the top.

2:32:59 As most of you know, the Secretary is traveling to Northern Haiti on Monday, October 22nd. Oh! The hotel! What could she be doing in Northern Haiti? The site of the hotel in Northern Haiti where there's nobody. She clearly must be, let me think, she must be visiting with the people, the 300,000 people who are still in tents eating dirt cakes, who have cholera. Psych check! So we have cholera and elephantitis. This is her first trip to the north of Haiti. She will be delivering remarks on a new day in Haiti at the formal opening of the Caracol Industrial Park.

2:33:42 Oh, we're gonna see how the slaves are doing. We've got our little industrial park there. Okay, that's one. Which showcases the region's achievements in agribusiness, energy, light manufacturing, tourism, and artisan crafts. Artisan crafts, John. Artisan crafts. I gotta go there. She won't be hanging out with some basket weavers. She'll also be visiting a nearby housing site, which is under construction and a recently completed power plant. While there, she'll meet with President Martelly, Prime Minister Lamont, local officials, and she will be accompanied by Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis. Yes, to get the little slaves working. You know, they're black slaves, which is even better.

2:34:25 Yeah, makes more sense. What a horrible horrible horrible bunch of elitist pricks these people are yes, she's gonna go check the hotel site and Look at some artisan crafts, so I can already see the package right to bring back some key fobs made by the locals You can just see her sitting there with like someone who's made a pot. It's so wonderful. Yeah, who's a clay pot pot and Fired and made from dung. People! There are still over 300,000 people in Haiti living in tents, eating dirt cakes, they have elephantitis, and cholera. Okay? Do not be fooled by this.

2:35:11 This is funny. Well, not funny. It's sick. Yeah, this is actually I only have one last clip my ongoing pet peeve is what that is Yes, it is a good one. By the way, I think you should stay with it. I will yeah, I mean because it's so easy It's not easy. It hurts me. It always I'm talking about easy to find this this because they like to throw in your face Oh, yeah. Yeah, true. True. True. True. True. True. True. So I got, there's a, I don't know if anyone knows, or our media doesn't talk about it, but the Peruvian medical establishment in Peru has been on strike for five months. Oh really? Yeah, their doctors have all given up. And I was listening to this report on the Peruvian doctors on strike that was on one of the, I think it may have been on China, whatever the case.

2:35:58 I think with the kind of pay that the this is where this is I don't want to say Obamacare is going to lead to this but and it doesn't seem to happen in a lot of places but I think these doctors are slightly I mean this is a vibrant economy that's part of the world trade and the rest of it I think the doctors in Peru are being slightly underpaid. With striking doctors who are demanding higher salaries the government is under pressure as the walkout of 11,000 doctors enters its fifth week CCTV's Dan Collins reports from Lima. This square in the capital's centre was a sea of white as hundreds of doctors took to the streets. The government is to blame, they say, for their dismal wages, despite having a record fiscal surplus. For more than a decade now, Peru has been growing. It's the most dynamic economy in the region. But in all that time, these doctors say they've never received a pay rise.

2:36:58 Working in the public sector, doctors' wages started around $300 a month. Even the most senior physicians earned little more than $1,500. I left university 12 years ago and I haven't had a single pay rise. We can't live like this anymore. Many of our colleagues are parents and this salary which the state pays us is not enough to make ends meet. Seems low. What I like about this clip is they have a they've they've put the standard Peruvian drum beat under it whenever you have something in Peru it's like

2:37:41 You know what I mean? It's kind of to give it some authenticity. Actually, the more interesting thing because they showed that there's a lot of street scenes and people yelling and screaming. And I mentioned this before that when I was in Spain and I went to an area where there was a protest, they were all blowing police whistles, making this huge racket. Yeah, we have discussed this. Yes. Well, in Peru, you heard these horns honking. They sound like vuvuzelas or whatever those crazy long things are. Yeah, kind of like a... They sound like that only with a higher pitch? Yeah. It's a little device. I've never seen it before and any of our listeners who has access to this, I want one for the show. It's a little handheld device that looks like a box, like a rectangular box about the size of your fist.

2:38:26 And it's got a horn sticking out of the top of it, a little bitty horn, a little plastic horn. And there's a little thing you pull on. You pull and push. It's like a pump. And you sit there and you pump this thing and it makes this outrageously loud sound similar to those little air horns you can buy that, you know, little bitty ones you can buy that sound like a horn from a boat you'd use on when you're boating. It sounds like that, but it's just a pumping thing. It's really cool. And that's only in Peru? I've never seen this anywhere. I've never when I saw the device I said holy crap. What is that? Huh? There's a really cool little device and you just pull and push and pull and push it and make it Makes a bunch of racket. I'm not sure what it's called hmm interesting. I know some Peruvians I'll ask him someone will someone will come up with that. I mean they'd be using these in Spain for sure No, I like it. I like it very cool

2:39:21 Well, let me wrap it up then with a fine piece of pharmaceutical advertising. How's that? How's that sound? All right, then we're good. Because of course, you know, we have been talking quite a bit about the brazen nature of pushing Adderall and Ritalin and other groovy little things onto our children. So NBC had this big report and it was all about Adderall. And they highlighted this one kid who went to Columbia. Well, actually, here's the setup and I'll take you through. This is basically kind of like one of those narratives that you did with Japan. Listen to what they tell you and what the payoff is of this report. Welcome to Rock Center. And we begin tonight with a story of interest to families all across this country, because right now in dorm

2:40:11 bedrooms and bedrooms all across this country. There are students going about their work under the influence of prescription medications like Adderall and Ritalin with the goal of doing better in school. Now these drugs make a big difference for those with attention deficit disorders, but then there are the others who choose to take them illegally hoping for sharper focus and better grades. Tonight, Kate Snow starts us off by introducing us to a young man who thought he'd discovered a medicinal shortcut to success. Okay, so now, right now we're already set up to think, hey, that sounds kind of interesting. A shortcut to success, okay.

2:40:54 It was exam time at one of the nation's most prestigious schools, Columbia University in New York. And the pressure was on. 20-page papers, all kinds of revisions, presentations, six classes. There's a lot of stuff that needs to get done. Stéphane Perez was powering through the usual way. Two, three days I'm up, straight. No sleep. All the way through the night? Yeah. And how are you doing that? Adderall. Adderall. Adderall. It's a drug we've all heard about, widely prescribed for attention deficit disorders. But this isn't a story about ADHD. It's a story of an ambitious student and many, many more who have misused Adderall to get an edge. DeAnson Parker is a New York neuropsychologist. She says Stefan is like a lot of ambitious kids in high school and college,

2:41:45 who misuse attention deficit medications like Adderall to perform better academically. There is a basic belief in the value that getting ahead beats everything and you can do anything to get ahead, it's okay. So it's not perceived as cheating, although I would argue it is. Okay, so now what is the information that they're giving us right now? Yeah, I actually saw this too. The information is use Adderall, you get better grades. Okay. But just don't get caught selling it. Right, well, do you have to blow like the whole thing or should I take it in sequence? Because the most important part is next, which is how do you get a hold of it? Only for the test.

2:42:28 Why kids think this is a big deal? I mean, this is a controlled substance because You're doing very well when you're taking it most of the time. I've never heard anyone say I took Adderall and did terrible on my exam I never heard anyone say I took Adderall I did poorly on the exam. It's like an academic steroid. Oh Yeah, I was just thinking that it's like taking steroids in sports Barry Bonds in the library Absolutely Barry Bonds in the library and before a lot of memes there was good Stefan says he wanted ready access to his own supply. So that's my friend. How'd you get that prescription? It's a oh go to you know psychological health services wait on campus on Columbia's campus. He said, you know tell him that you're having you know trouble and

2:43:17 studying, focusing, they'll ask you a couple questions, and you'll get a prescription like that. They give it out like it's candy. All it took, he says, was a meeting with a psychologist at Student Health Services in this building who asked him to fill out a simple questionnaire. On campus. He also met with a psychiatrist. He says it was just 10 minutes. The doctor asked him if he'd ever taken Adderall. I thought, is this a trick question? I said, you know what, yeah. A friend gave me one of his pills from his prescription. I took it. and it made me very productive. I really liked how it helped me. Perfect! This is, I think, the right prescription for you. Hold on, he didn't say, well, you really shouldn't have taken someone else's prescription. That's really not medically advisable. Right.

2:44:01 He walked out, prescription in hand. Because he was over 18, no one notified his parents. We asked Columbia for an interview. The university declined to comment on this case, but in a statement said, its student health service uses a detailed clinical protocol for evaluation of ADHD and related conditions. and takes a holistic approach toward treatment for ADHD, including short-term counseling. Okay, so here's what we're learning in this report is if you want it, all you have to do is go to the doctor on campus and say,

2:44:40 You know, I've tried it once and it really worked for me and they'll give it to you. So you go through this whole report and the thing is 10 or 15 minutes. And of course you expect as any normal human being and a parent, you expect the end will be, well, you know, it's addictive. It's like cocaine. Um, you know, you, you can get strung out on this stuff. It's hard crashing. And some of that is peppered throughout the report, but really the end result is that this guy, he got so good that he was now selling some of his Adderall for $30 a pill. And the payoff, the big thing about the report is

2:45:22 Adderall is great, you'll do fantastic on it, you can get it right from the doctor on campus, but don't you DARE sell that illegally without going through US, SLAVE! It was an explosive bang. Which was followed by this red battering ram that knocked my door down. No, I just cracked it knocked it open. It was like whoa It was an early morning raid Stefan was caught up in a drug bust the NYPD's Operation Ivy League a five-month undercover investigation Stefan was charged with selling Adderall He was shocked to find himself locked up with four other Columbia students who were arrested for dealing drugs like ecstasy, marijuana and cocaine. This is a true ring of drug dealers and pushers completely legal telling you we've got the goods, the goods are great, you can use them, you're going to be fantastic, you'll get ahead, we'll make it affordable, easy and don't you dare

2:46:24 Don't you dare step on our turf and try to sell that yourself. Well, this story is somewhat bogative from the perspective that if you're a student at Columbia and you just waltz in and get a prescription from the psychiatric services so easily, why wouldn't all the students do that instead of buying any from him at three times the cost? What do you think the commercial is about? The commercial is exactly that. They want more people to do that. That's what I'm saying. That's why the whole thing is so... I actually saw this and I wasn't going to clip it because I just thought it was a little over the top bull crap. And yeah, I'm not going to argue any of the points. I just didn't think, you know, it was a big shock to anybody that this sort of bull crap goes on. No, no. I think it's shocking that no one, I guess what it was to me, John, is that this is your news. Your news is selling drugs to your kids.

2:47:22 And that's why you need to not only listen to, but support... It's impossible to argue with that. And as you run the little theme at the end, I want to point out something. If you want to go to Dvorak.org slash blog and look at the... You see this list that comes out every year. These are the top suppressed news stories. One group, right? Yep. The top 10 all covered to an extreme on the no agenda show. Number one story by the way was signs of an emerging police state. Number four for example is FBI agents responsible for a majority of terrorist plots.

2:48:05 Number 8 for example, NATO war crimes in Libya. I mean it's a list of the stories we commonly do and you know the fact all they're doing is pointing out the obvious and I think people don't need to be told this. You're getting no news anyplace anymore. And that I guess is why we're still on the air for as long as it lasts. You know at some point they'll yeah Somebody will notice when one of these supposed no agenda listeners actually listens in the government Who are these idiots? I think we we better get us some some of those FEMA homeland youth uniform so we can I think we should join the homeland so we can blend in

2:48:48 You see like all these kids and then there's Adam and John Your name is your name is Johannes Johannes and my name is Johannes and Adamus Adolf and Johannes no we Adolf Adolf Adolf and Johannes here we have a reporting for duty for the FEMA region 6 homeland youth security call Wow wow wow wow alright everybody well thank you so much for joining us we are now off to rest up and charge up and get ready for our show on Thursday hope you will join you then or join us then

2:49:39 Coming to you here from the capital of the drone star state, that's Austin, Texas. I am still suffering from disruptive mood dysregulation disorder in the morning. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I have a bell. I'm John C. Dvorak. The No Agenda Producer Update is coming up next on the stream. Stay tuned for that, and No Agenda will be back. Thursday no agenda for the future no agenda for for America no agenda for a second term Dvorak org slash n a