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00:00 I think it's a new use for roofies. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Sunday October 7th 2012 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 450 This is no agenda Hunkered down in the city of Douche from Washington in the district of Columbia In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And back at Northern Silicon Valley...I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill In The Morning Yeah, that's right. Bringing you once again the best podcast in the universe In the morning to you Citizen John! All of a sudden you sound great. In the morning to you Adam Curry. In the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground subs in the water and the knights who support this show so generously Indeed indeed And you can hear I'm... The minute the show starts here they come They're out to get me

00:55 That's unbelievable the amount of sirens here in Washington DC. Oh really? And you know a lot of the cop cars here, some say like county police but then there are couple that say police and it says Homeland Security! How does that work?! Well they've given themselves the police power It must be and they're the ones that are always with the screaming sirens. Oh yeah Homeland Security step aside son They're just essentially promoted rent-a-cops. It must be! Oh, and I also must say a big in the morning to everyone listening to this program on WBCQ Beaming out with 50 thousand watts on 7.4 niner zero megahertz How's that? What is that yeah we're on one of our producers is putting us on a fifty thousand watt shortwave

01:54 I'm sure short way. Yeah, so we're really are beaming out to all ships at sea no Ghana Jonestown CQ Jonestown That's awesome wait let me just get the so we have it's 7.4 9-0 megahertz and I think Maybe it maybe it's also on 5.1 1 0 megahertz I don't do we have to do call sign every 15 minutes Do you have to say we have to say a WBCQ here with no agenda show? I don't know. I don't know either. There's rules, but I don't know about rebroadcasting our show being included. I like it! He'll find out with a nasty letter from the FCC. Yeah, and I'm tickled pink... Well hey, I'm taking my test. I think it's third week of the month that I can take my technical test in Austin. Good! Then we can test the repeaters. Oh yeah! No, I'm looking forward to it. It's going to be fun

02:55 So I got a package in the mail. You'll get one when you get back to home base Okay, we're leaving tomorrow so looking forward to it What is then the package? The new healthy surprise.com box Oh nice! Is it big or is it the smaller box It's just smaller Yeah now that we love the healthy surprise dot-com box is great So there's one in here that's pretty funny And they're actually quite good, they're called Coco Roons. Coco Roons? Are they like macaroons? Yes but they are wonderfully raw. Made of cocoa! Here's the bull crap that is on the back. It says Raw Almond Flour. Then it has an asterisk and it says... May contain flour. Says our almonds are from California

03:49 and by law have to be pasteurized. However, the oils within remain raw." Well isn't pasteurization like nuked with radiation? No no it's just boiling. Oh interesting... So how does that tell me explain this to me I didn't ask Adam How do you pasteurize part to half the product and the other half still remains raw? How does that work now they probably only boiled a little bit on the outside? Boil bull crap don't boil it too much son. Everything will be good I don't know I just want to mention that so we're still in Washington DC We've been here for the emerge art fair and

04:35 This of this of course has been my supportive miss Mickey who was have been so kind to support our show in a trailer I might add at least she put me in a Well, it's kind of a hotel. You know it doesn't have room cell let's face It is kind of a motel well went down this morning to have breakfast and I was just wearing like my You have to see what I wear when i do the show but... I really don't want to see it. Suffice to say, the guy at the quote-unquote restaurant looked at me and he went.. And I said yeah, I'm wearing my pajamas okay? Just give me some coffee

05:11 Wait a minute, you went down and out of the room? Pretty much. And jumped over to a restaurant in pajamas?! Pretty much yeah! Oh man... With my beard- Well this is where we're heading here on the show, Noah Jender Show ladies and gentlemen. Noah Jender Show How ya doing? Noah Jender And there's people from Taiwan What are you looking at!? Pretty much There's people from Taiwan and like Denmark They give me the evil eye Stink eye Like what's it to you? My hair is all messed up and stuff. I don't give a crap You couldn't slip on a pair of pants well, no I had but the pajama kind of pants with pockets so Anyway, so we're here in and very exciting Miss Mickey's one of her pieces of art was featured in the printed version of The Washington Post

06:03 Yesterday and of course she's now sold some pieces. So it was very very exciting for her ah Power of the press yes, and of course Washington Post is great They never tell a lie they're awesome Yes Exactly that's how it works power of the press But man we've had I have some stories to tell but maybe we should We should thank some producers first and let me start off by thanking Martin JJ for doing the album art on the previous episode. Outstanding job, we always look forward to what our artists produce for us and of course you can always see all of the art that is produced for each and every single episode even though they may not be chosen They are great to print out and make coasters of You can find that at noagendaartgenerator.com Would it make a great coaster set?

07:02 Yeah, it's not a bad idea actually huh mm-hmm And doesn't have just does have to be the ones that were chosen for episodes I mean you could do all of these well and some of them are lewd so Well, yes alright. So we want to thank Amos rice For being an instant night whoa Hello Came in from Brooks Alberta where? all the money is.

07:46 How does that work? For one thing he somehow sent it to the old original account which doesn't have very little traffic and this thousand dollars shows up. So they send him a note saying are you sure you're sending $1,000 of these guys and he said yeah! So they grilled him again. What? Yeah, and so then they grilled me and I said yeah And then they grew him and they grow me I mean it's ridiculous kidding me No may have to actually cancel the money and send it to the other account or something Are these douche in Hymers over there at PayPal that sucks That's I was I sent it to my we have Special people that supposedly help us and will find out on Monday when you get back to work You mean people who

08:27 Who listen to the show or people that we have on the inside of PayPal or both? I don't know All those they contacted me once yeah, all right We give them the benefit of the doubt. Yeah uses season ins tonight Michael Kern sir Michael Kearns to you and Platte City Missouri came in with 450 oh He is a good member of the 450 the only member and it's great to have you there sir Michael Kearns Good choice good choice Joe Castillo Baton Rouge Louisiana will be a social executive producer and he says See email for further information There was no email Shane you have to say yeah, we I looked in my spam box And I looked at mine too. Yeah because it came in and I was like alright. I'll look for it I didn't see anything either But this is information on the knighthood and name information so we want to make sure and hopefully he's listening I don't want

09:25 Do we want to wait with his knighting then perhaps in case he wants it? No, no. It's fine He's got the money in no I know but maybe he wants you know He doesn't he doesn't want the knighthood bestowed upon someone else perhaps We want to make sure we do it right Look get any indication on oh cuz he had his ring size added to a follow-up all right Well, yeah him you don't have like grown at me like its you know Just because it complicates things. But when you do that... You forget to do it, and end up a black knight sometime in 2014 When you make this sound, could you just do the- when you make the sound, ugh Could you follow that with one sentence? Yeah alright, now yeah, you make this sound and then say I'll just have an apple in my room An apple what?! An apple in my room! I'll just have an apple in my room!? Okay I'll try it, I'll give it, okay I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this acting- okay here we go

10:20 I'll just have an apple in my room. Is that good? Yes, thank you very much Did i nail it? You nailed it! That's what my great-grandmother used to say Because that sound that you made at the beginning was the same like ah And they said I'll just have an apple in my room because either dinner wasn't right or whatever you know Well thats the way you pass off the lousy cooking of your host Thank you for nailing that. That was very important. Kevin Fairchild, Land O'Lakes Florida $250 going to send blankets of water but I decided just send cash. I've been a total JCD fanboy ever since the days of Silicon Spin though it was sad when Cranky Geek sent it I was able to find him active here and on Twitter stay cranky John I'd appreciate if Adam could send me some two-to-the head karma. Oh there'll be much obliged to do that

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13:57 Yo, so I need to discuss something technical just briefly here at the top of the show because I think there is Something wrong with the Apple reality distortion field that we need to look into and I know we have a lot of producers on the who listen to this program who understand these things and I've Just haven't been able get far enough cuz you know people like me stupid disc jockey. What do you know shut up? So, we moved to a single hosting solution offered to us kindly by the troika of Mr. Oil We've got Void Zero, we've got Gitmo Slave These guys kind of run the infrastructure And the main reason is that we wanted to be independent and not have to rely on someone else who we can't call i.e. Mevio

14:54 And, you know because we had a couple problems so we moved everything over and this actually happened during the tour. The Hot Pockets 2009 Tour for new listeners that was this past summer not three years ago and everything was running well and then all of sudden we start having problems Here's how I boiled down the problem iOS 6 for the iPhone was released before the iPhone 5 and We started to see a lot of traffic coming to our mp3 files, a substantial amount of more traffic now and this is not so strange because I think a lot of people who listen to the program as a podcast get it on their iPhone. It seems to be kind of still the prevalent device out there certainly for people who are subscribed and automatically get it when the show was released but what we were seeing is these iPhones connecting disconnecting and then starting the download over again

15:53 So we kind of saw our bandwidth go up, our outgoing bandwidth go up quite a bit. Then the iPhone 5 was released with this new iOS 6 and it's been out-of-control! It's almost like a denial-of-service attack and it is directly related to the way these the iOS 6 software downloads. And I've been able to corroborate this with other people, they're seeing similar behavior but more importantly people are running out of their AT&T or Verizon bandwidth because their iPhones are doing this

16:29 And what happens invariably is when we have all these iPhones kick in automatically to try and download the show, the minute it's released. Then you know we don't have a CDN We can afford anything as luxurious as that so then it almost looks like a denial of service attack, then stuff starts to break and then you know any phone or any computer will have a download issue for awhile until it kind of shakes out. That can take one or two days and this has been a really big problem And I'm looking squarely at it being an iOS 6 HTTP downloader library problem. Not necessarily any of the apps, but how the apps access files on the internet and so hopefully people can look into that and help us out because we just don't have a CDN and you know CDNs are much better at handling this kind of traffic in a distributed manner So we just don't have that so it's hurting the show apparently yeah, and I don't know what to do

17:31 Other than just say hey help well, you know Apple's too busy fixing their stupid maps. You know they got no time for us I think it's an attack on podcasting It's a war on podcasting exactly Bastard we need a jingle for this the war on podcasts otherwise when you're gonna have to hear it done the shortwave Which I hear is doing quite well 50,000 watts that's a lot of Watts That's a pretty big state. I wonder how much does he the guy must have a diesel generator And with that kind of, take it off the grid. With that kind of, with the frequencies at this should be getting a lot of tropospheric bounce so we probably can't be heard in Africa. Hello Africa! Hello Libya Well since were on Africa as a topic Yes How about playing the clip China just to keep people up-to-date when we started this show we picked up on this Chinese and Africa trend right away Oh yeah

18:34 meetings we had with people. Really? I don't remember you having a meeting... There were some guys from Germany that clued me into this when i was in Toronto about what was going on and I brought up on the show number of times Correct! So, I consider that a meeting it was over beer and a bar but Oh, that's a meeting yes okay It is a meeting at beer and bars are meeting and its just good meeting So I thought we'd update everything and play the... We've got a couple of clips here. China's in Africa update, this is from China. ...looking so well and enjoying the stage experience. Well in the final installment of China Invests we go to Africa. China being Africas biggest trading partner has inspired praise envy and criticism

19:25 Much of the criticism comes from the US, most of the praise from Africa. At least one survey taken in ten African countries shows that Chinese trade and investment is viewed overwhelmingly favourable. Our correspondent Rochelle Acufo a citizen of Ghana has this report The shortest route to downtown Nairobi, the capital of Kenya is now this smooth ribbon of asphalt built by the Chinese. Many here also see it as the shortest route to prosperity in East Africa In a country where the average per capita income is just $1800 a year, Nairobi's legendary traffic jams cost the Kenyan economy an estimated half million dollars a day in extra fuel and lost man hours But it will do more than save Kenya money

20:14 make money too. When completed, this 50km stretch of highway not only will complete a ring road around the city it will be linked to neighboring Ethiopia supporting an expansion of trade with some 80 million people. It will ease traffic pressure, create job opportunities training and skills for locals on this project. 95% of staff are locals China is already Africa's single largest trading partner and there is more investment capital on the way Hey how come we can't get some money from them Chiners for the show? Well as things progress I think it's possible Come one man!

20:55 They're investing in the US. I have an end of show clip that talks about a little bit because it's pretty peculiar what they're investing in, but then meanwhile of course the Chinese report by the way I want to say I've noticed this both with our TV, the Russian propaganda outlet and CCTV there are being a little more aggressive at being critical you know they set up shop here in the U S to have their little stations and they have been pretty iridescent to go after them government Because they don't know and so now more recently. They're just giving it to us And I think clip two is the guy's got a little zinger that's quite wait a minute This is CCTV, Is that what this is? Yeah where are they? Central China television yeah Where they headquartered were their studios are they in Washington maybe? I We should look studios or in China

21:49 Oh, okay. I thought they had... like RT has local studios in Hoboken or whatever? As far as i know the Chinese have no studios here At the China-Africa forum in Beijing this year Chinese president Hu Jintao pledged a 20 billion dollar line of credit just for the next three years With this expansion have come charges of exploitation mainly from those competing for African business On trips to Africa, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned of a new colonialism threatening the continent. The majority of Africans see things differently preferring China's influence over America's by a wide margin. Where? Hillary is complaining that China are in her game

22:34 Is that what I'm hearing? Yeah. That's funny One US survey conducted in 10 African countries found respondents overwhelmingly in favor of a Chinese connection In Kenya, 91% of respondents said China's presence was positive versus 74 percent who felt that way about America's The spread was bigger in Senegal narrower in Ghana In Tanzania, a majority 52 percent thought American influence was a bad thing Without a doubt, China has had huge correlation with the increase in African GDP. And let me quickly tell you why. What happened was Chinese demand increased the demand for African commodities lifted the price structure so we effectively got much better price for things that were selling Although Chinese investment in more than 50 African countries has grown exponentially in past decade one country has done

23:28 trade with China and received more Chinese direct investment than all the African countries combined. The United States. Rochelle Acufo, CCTV Washington. Yeah see I think we should be talking to them I mean, first of all their reports are really dry and boring if they want some kind of... Oh you think? If they want some kinda news going on the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group can certainly do a better job than that. Oh yeah! Please! Please! You're killing me with this. But anyway, I didn't realize that they were the number one trading partner with China. Oh it doesn't surprise me at all actually No it doesn't surprise but I didn't know it

24:13 Apparently we just been screwing the Africans over the years. We give them some food and tell you I'm gonna stuff free It's been interesting here in DC because there's a lot of Africans here the cab drivers The guys in the restaurant, the guy sweeping the 7-eleven and I mean, oh me I'm like hey man Where are you from? I see you know, you hear someone with an accent by the way They're not all black is this crazy thing as it where you from they're like brown all kinds of colors Are you from Oh Nairobi? Oh where your firm? What was the other one Can you know not Nairobi, Nigeria? I said oh. I got an email from your brother The guy didn't get that one But but you can say to every single one of these people I think I've mentioned it before just say a lot of Chinese there and they their eyes light up And then on they're like yeah

25:01 Yeah, they just love it when you say that because no one here in America knows anything about. They're like I'm from Nairobi or wherever like they have no idea where that is Americans are too stupid so they feel kind of left alone and isolated except in their own little community and if you just come into their life, into their path and say something like that...they love it! And even if you don't know what that where the hell the country is just say oh China China's in there and they'll tell you all kinds of things. They won't stop talking it's great Well, except for then to vote stop talking It's nice, you know in a cab, you know, it's like you're driving around guys are it's nice I like it. I like it we had We had a different cab driver here that I could hear an accent away from Jerusalem Palestine

25:53 Oh, you're Palestinian. He says that's right in 1948 there was no Israel. Like, okay. No grudge whatsoever there Yeah, it's interesting melting pot here in DC. That's for sure I got This is the just-in-time for Cybersecurity Awareness Month they know of course we have to we've scared the congressmen and the senators that's what Janet Napolitano Said quite literally you know I really hope I scared the bejesus out of them so that they can pass all these stupid laws And of course we have to bring this home now

26:31 Obviously we're going to scare all of you individuals, how your children aren't being safe. But just in case you have a small business, we want to scare you into accepting legislation after the executive order comes out." Oops! And then I would have to hit the right button... It's like a digital form of kidnapping! Computer data held for ransom by hackers using a sophisticated new scam known as Ransomware. Silicon Valley correspondent Dan Simon is- Wait a minute, wait a minute. Hold on a second. Yeah? This is an old story It's back baby

27:10 It's back. Okay, play it But do you know this Silicon Valley correspondent they speak of? I just wanted to... Dan Simon? I didn't hear his name what is it? I think its Dan Simon let's check again Held for ransom by hackers using a sophisticated new scam known as Ransomware CNN Silicon Valley correspondent Dan Simon is looking into it for us Now do you know Dan Simon Is he a regular there on the Silicon Valley circuit? I never heard of him Exactly Steve Merrifield owns a high-end sporting goods shop. After 27 years in business, he'd been preparing to sell it... all the records for potential buyers stored on his computer server

27:52 So Merrifield was more than concerned when he realized all of his data had been frozen. The last words I remember is this is not good, this is not good It turned out hackers had taken control of the machine and flashed a message for $3,000 Merrifield could have his data back but it didn't stop there He'd have to fork over an additional thousand dollars for each week he didn't comply You have to understand that this may be two or three months old, but this John is Cybersecurity Awareness Month. Oh Exactly It's just so blatantly obvious how they do this it's an old story I think at first heard of this about I think almost a year ago Yeah, oh yeah And you can go online and you can get all the ways to get out of it? It's not like this is unescapable

28:45 You know, the whole way is reinstall the operating system if you wanted to and that would make a difference. Well yeah there's a lot of ways of getting out of it exactly exactly you just boot up from something else and then it's good to go but I was just like wow well they're...I mean there's so many things because of course we have the huge... Yeah well hold on a second! They mentioned all those options I'm sure in the story? Uh no No I'm sorry? No I must not heard ya. You said no?! No, they recommend getting the most recent antiviral software from your trusted provider. Like these McAfee people! When will someone really catch on that it's these guys that put the viruses out there? I mean come on this is such an obvious scam big government contracts

29:40 Jeez Louise, this is like the ratings agencies. Why would anyone trust them? So there's been a lot of really interesting legislation and all kinds of things happening because oh yeah we've been distracted by some bull crap For those of you who are not in the know, I'm glad that we have our senior financial analyst with us here. Economist and Nobel Prize winning economist John C. Dvorak to explain the latest surprising jobs numbers to us. The jobs numbers actually are a new, I think it was 118 thousand in the plus side of the column which is again about 40 or 32 thousand low from what just needed every month which is 150 thousand. Now somehow, I don't know how they jiggered around but they somehow managed to make it sound like there was 800 thousand when there wasn't and then the unemployment's dropped to 7.8 percent because you need to get underneath that magic number

30:47 And it's like nobody is buying into this. It's just like a joke except for the MSNBC Well, it's not just MSNBC and I'm actually very angry because...it's like hello only one person can actually legitimately call himself The Crackpot! and now they're calling Jack Welch a crack pot They're calling all these other people crack pots. It's like get out of my business will ya? Come on move away Yes, Jack Welch for people who don't know tweeted. That's the funny thing. Hey honey how do you turn this thing on? I want to tweet!

31:26 So, um... Okay. We tweeted that this is bogus! Okay so can we now because you are the one that has always been explaining re-explaining the U6 numbers how we know uh the bum factor where the labor participation people just fall off you know fall off the edge of the chart and are living on the street and therefore no longer counted and that helps the number change I mean is this truly bogative? Well let me see uh... when you have a look at this yet it would what were you know i don't think that and i guess decided i'm gonna look at something i find more interesting which is the john williams' as shadow government statistics now yes this is the one who has stats dot com we have discussed this previously this is a good site to go to ok shadows and slobbering is my problem is is that around is getting worse but around looks like right after obama got in

32:26 The government number started to trend down and the sh- at this for the first time by the way there's three numbers he's got the U3 which is the one that you have it's official 7.8 now, the u6 which is the old calculation and shadow stats SGS number which is based on the way would've been calculated like during the depression yeah and that's the blue line That's the blue line. And the lines are always parallel, they were just off by... each one was off by about 2 1⁄2%. The U3 was always up to 5% less than the old U6 which they don't talk about anymore and that was about 4% less than the SGS number

33:08 And they've always been in like a parallel, it's like you know those chalk things that you use? You put the chalk in a little holder and then you can make straight three lines that are together and move them up or down. Ah yes I remember those from my chalk days. Nobody knows what I'm talking about. When Obama got in, for the first time that I've ever seen the SGS numbers were going one way while the government numbers are going the other causing a huge gap. Right now the true unemployment rate which i believe is the SGS number shadow government stats is just around 24 percent yeah that's how many people are unemployed and you go out and hang around about a quarter of the public is unemployed

33:56 So that's what 80 million people yeah, yeah so okay That's what the numbers are. So that says so that's what your entire theory is based on us on a website you crackpot Yeah apparently Well that is what we have been following and so where does this guy John Williams? Is he a Nobel laureate oh He's just some statistical nut Okay I know the tie. I never met him He has no credit should go out of my way to meet him because I believe he's in San Francisco I think I'll do that, but whatever the case is I just imagine him to have one of those visors That's that's kind of a clear green and he's After I mean I was fine it's different But I imagined him to be sitting around going that's not right. He probably wears a polo and drives a Corvette

34:55 He could be with a Rolex What it do is one of the two anyway mind the gap John C. Dvorak says and be careful of that gap It is pretty amazing when you see the chart I mean You can look at its shadow stats calm right on the home page you click on that chart there are the red gray and blue chart in biggins And you look at it's like wow all right, and you can actually change I think you can download his data right and you can do stuff with it. This is a really great website, the newsletter's even better if some people want to subscribe to it. Anyway so of course but this is obviously the October surprise. And this... Some surprise! Yeah and well it's been quite amazing um I think this is the exact same number that

35:49 That was Bush's worst, right? George W. I think that the 7.8 or 7.9 it was somewhere in that around that region But its perfect like oh you know so now this is down and I would call it some I would definitely call it a When Obama got here was a buck 86 well so this of course I believe is the counterpunch to Should we get the, alright so you sucked at the debate. Oh yeah? Watch this! Watch the job numbers! Oh yeah?! Watch the gas prices!" While AAA reports that statewide average is a record high of 461 it's well above that in many metropolitan areas and some stations far above that. I got gas yesterday at 469 and today i saw this at 569 and said no im not going to get it

36:33 In San Francisco, the average is $4.69 a gallon. The lack of buyers at a station charging 5.09 shows drivers do have their limits. The fast rising prices are linked to a string of supply disruptions beginning with the huge fire in a San Francisco area Chevron refinery in August On Monday, a power failure shut down an ExxonMobil refinery in Southern California. And a crude oil pipeline in the state is also out of service. California pollution rules require a gasoline blend that isn't readily available from refineries outside the state. There's nothing else I can say except...

37:10 There's a couple other things going on in the oil business But maybe we just stick with California for a moment and I can talk because it seems like the new thing is We need to get prices up. So let's start a fire We've got a fire at TNK BP in In that's a Russia Saratov oil, we've got a broken stuff and a fire in Texas And this is like hey you when he prices ago about light the fire like the fire break something break the pump And this is, uh... Is this just very typical for California? Or is this possibly a reverse October surprise where the oil cabal jumps in and then because the prices literally went up 50 cents per gallon in California which of course is President Obama's big hometown.

38:02 Well, first of all no one is going to set a fire at a refinery as some sort of a ruse. Why do you say that? Those things are extremely dangerous, those refineries. And the possibility of it getting out of control and blowing the thing to sky high is way... Hey man we're talking about the presidency of America! I don't put anything past people like that Well why would the president want gas prices to go up? No no no no no no no i'm talking about the Republicans wanting the gas prices to go up Oh the Republicans are incompetent So anyway let's just go with them They got matches I mean, the distributors have set the prices and this is a...I'm not absolutely sure of it but i don't think that California blend is that different than any other blend in the US. I think thats a bull crap argument. The air pollution blends of petroleum products gasoline in particular have been normalized

38:57 I think throughout the country. There's no reason to whether in other words what you're putting in your car and Connecticut is junk? I don't think so So I think that's bullcrap. Well, you think this is just...I don't know! I mean it was just rigged? It was just rigged there's no reason to blame it on everyone. Oh, oh pipeline pump went down well gas has got to go up 10 cents okay so then but if it's the same thing so whatever's going on they blame it on that and maybe who knows about the fire haven't looked at the fire maybe which is like some wood burning over there you know looks like a lot of smoke You know what

39:33 They're real fire. So but you're saying the same thing You're saying it's bullcrap It's set up and they just raising the prices because they can and I'm saying they're raising the prices because they can only I'm Saying maybe they lit the fire so they could say that could rise raise the prices. It's the same thing Well, yes of your premise is questionable Oh well in okay? Well, they got to blame it on something. They're blaming on the fire Well, they're blaming on the fire. The joke is that when the fire took place around here... Two months ago? Yeah, months and months ago and by the way I can see the refinery from the hilltop so it's right there. I take pictures of it once in a while. There's a refinery Is it still burning? And uh.. It wasn't that bad. The thing wasn't burning to the ground let's put it that way but they immediately jacked up prices the next day! By 15 cents Good

40:27 That's what you get for living there. Yeah, well it was a big scam Well maybe this has something to do with it because there is a whole bunch of things Going on at the same time and California and Los Angeles in particular is of course, yeah a very strange place for people to live They don't even have their they trucked their own water. Don't they like pump the water over a hill over? A mountain is like pumped up 2,000 can they drain the Owens Valley right it turned into a desert used to be one of the great agricultural growing areas Right does he have all this natural water right

41:05 They sucked all the water out of the Owens Valley. There's a movie in Chinatown that discusses some of this and they gave it all to LA, so the Owens Valley is like a vast wasteland. It's actually depressing when you fly over it. Right but if something happened to that infrastructure, to the pumps and pipeline then LA would essentially run out of water Yeah, quick. Right so you see how quick they apparently ran out of gas because whether it's just prices or not I mean there are pumps that are closed because they can't afford the gas they can't afford to sell the gas right? So maybe this ties right into this bill that let me just bring this up for second here House Resolution 6566 introduced September 28th 2012

41:59 known as the, this is meant to amend the Homeland Security Act of 2002. To require the administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency we know that is FEMA to provide guidance and coordination for mass fatality planning and for other purposes very short bill John but I think we should just read through this so people know what is being amended and then we can question why Okay, okay here we go yeah findings Congress finds the following Emergency preparedness often plans for how to prepare and provide for survivors of a natural disaster act of terrorism or other man-made disaster But fails to plan for how to prepare for and respond to mass fatalities that result from such an incident I mean you know when I'm sitting at home. I'm thinking We need to know if I put it fun if I think in their Congress like you know

42:53 I think we should have a bill about what happens when all the people die, all the dead people from terrorism natural disaster or other man-made disaster. So, Section 3 of this bill calls for preparedness for mass fatalities resulting from a natural disaster active terrorism or other man-made disaster. The administrator shall provide guidance to coordinate with appropriate individuals including representatives from different communities private sector businesses nonprofit organizations and religious organizations to prepare for and respond to a natural disaster act of terrorism or the man-made disaster that results in mass fatalities

43:29 Yippee-yi-yay! Time to celebrate. Come on, what is this about? Yeah I know people's a bunch of people sent us that Did you read it? I don't know. Did you, did you read it?! Yeah! I did...I just said this is weird. Ha ha ha yeah! It came in as the all-ish but FEMA camps ya know that bullshit No no no no no this not about FEMA camps I dont think its FEMA camp we need to prepare for the mass fatalities and like well where's that coming? I dunno sounds like somebody knows something we dont know exactly so do see this thing they keep talking about that crazy stuff

44:18 Did you see the thing, let me dig this up. Did you see the thing about... no never mind I can't find it This is great! No? Yeah i know this a great show we do here What are you talking about? About the book that's coming out as documents Obama as being gay No, I have not heard about this. And there was an arranged marriage between him and Michelle it was put together by Reverend Wright Wait no wait This is not news this is like old conspiracy theory

45:01 Yeah, and yeah right and that Michelle Obama actually spent most of her time living with the Jesse Jackson house. Yeah She was supposed to marry Jesse Jackson jr.. But because he's insane in fact He's in the psycho ward right now He couldn't become the next president because that would I think that's what the book claims is that was the plan? You have that book Oh you don't actually give that any credence do you but no I just think it's hilarious yeah Well, you know just Google the name Larry Sinclair. That's the only guy you need to hear from You've never consulted a book of knowledge about Larry Sinclair I think long time ago when we first started talking about it Yeah yeah yes I'm not even just google that it doesn't really matter It doesn't really matter is its you know? I don't think that book will really see the light of day unlike however This is quite interesting in the ongoing campaign for the

46:06 most important spot in our government, the new Bin Laden movie. Now of course we had the one that the Pentagon essentially helped produce and by the same people did The Hurt Locker and they said oh well you know we don't want to be confused with the... You know it should be seen as trying to do anything to help the president get elected We're not going to show that movie until after the election But now Harvey Weinstein is out and helping the president. Now this movie is called Seal Team 6, The Raid on Osama Bin Laden It's what the NatGeo network calls the first fact-based film First of all, NatGeo I guess is CNN code for National Geographic

46:55 And apparently it's the first fact-based film, the first... Nat Geo. Yeah that's how you got to say it. Nat Geo everybody! I guess saying National Geographic takes up too many words and you can't put enough commercials so Nat Geo but it's the first fact based film they're going to put on the air uh huh? It is ever aired. Ever! ever. The first facts ever on Nat Geo. that's just forty eight hours before election day now there is a similar movie randy then dramatize the bin laden rain that movies zero dark thirty this has been in production for several months this movie had been criticized in some circles as being what people are calling propaganda for the obama administration so the filmmakers of that i'd love to see it propaganda like that's it doesn't that sound true

48:00 That's ridiculous. the old bulls yeah you know and that's what I'm sure the Romney campaign and then the Republicans are saying we don't like this because it could very well could but here's the thing is on

48:43 This isn't a news station. Well, I'm sure that's what Dem Republicans and Romney campaign will say it could but... It's not like it's on a theatrical release or major network. It is on a cable channel, a little cable channel. With Harvey Weinstein backing you can bet that it'll get a lot of publicity. Like we're doing right here! The incestuousness of this blows me away It's like no one is going to watch it because you know, it's just a little itty bitty cable channel Nat Geo. But of course if we talk about enough people might go and watch it and oh yeah I mean that might be a political campaign then Republicans might say that but this brings me to something that happened to us here in Washington DC that warrants some conversation We were propagandized and it was good I have to say

49:40 Hold on a second. What was? Mickey, what are you doing? Somehow Miss Mickey is in bed she's not feeling well and then all of the sudden she just turned on the stream So this of course is propaganda obviously. Chewing up more bandwidth at the house! I know try to tell her it's not the house It's at the hotel room so yes, so this Nat Geo documentary by Harvey Weinstein is of course propaganda Now, here's what happened. We're in DC and remember I told you about Wendell Potter who I met in Chicago when I was speaking at the CUSP conference? He is the whistleblower who used to be the head of communications for Cigna and he wrote the book Deadly Spin which is a big inspiration for a lot of the pharmaceutical or Big Pharma research work that I've done that we've discussed on this show. You remember the guy? Yep! So he's in town and he says hey let me take you guys out to lunch

50:40 Yeah, no very nice and you know Wendell's a thing he just turned 61 He used to be a reporter in DC A long time ago And then it became the head of corporate communications Then he blew the whistle on Signer wrote this book about basically he calls it these sickness industry instead of the health industry and they just want To make you keep you coming back for treatment and be sick and not actually cure you That's that's it. You don't have to read the book It's all done now you can talk about at a cocktail parties So he says, you know there this so first He takes us out to lunch and then he takes us to the press club which is kind of a treat because? He still remember the press club. You ever even know the press Club Yes I know the National Press Club. Yeah, but the one in Washington DC yeah Have you ever been there

51:24 No. Oh, so it's kind of cool! So we you know he takes us up to the bar and it kind of oozes of all the old drunk douchebags who were hanging out there And there's one or two like asleep in the corner snoring But it is literally that... You know the brown leather chairs the bar and uh It's a club Yeah I'm like hey and Mickey had her camera and three people said YOU CAN'T TAKE PICTURES HERE! Just holding on my camera man I'm not doing- YOU JUST SAY NO YOU CAN'T TAKE PICTURES PHOTOGRAPHY FORBIDDEN UP HERE AT THE PRESS CLUB Whatever. Yeah, that would be right yeah because they're all drunk And then he says you know hey I'm here in DC Because there's screening a movie that I That I was interviewed for and would you like to come tonight? And the movie is called escape fire have you heard of this cuz it just came out this no week okay so escape fire is It turns out so we go to this so-called independent movie theater and

52:22 And it's the West End Theater. The flyer is right there, it's called Escape Fire a film by Matthew Heineman and Susan Fromke A must-see says Andy Kaufman of The Village Voice and this is the first thing that tipped me off An inconvenient truth for the healthcare debate I'm like oh okay So then we're in this movie theater It's maybe 80 seats We're sitting there It's literally a digital projector with the screen on the wall, but it's you know. It's a property of blacked it off and there's air conditioning But it no it's probably note You probably have a bigger projection screen at home And they start off with some trailers and then coming soon to this theater is Arbitrage that's the Richard Gere movie I'm like what this isn't not an e this is an independent theater How come they're running that?

53:13 So I had to put this all together later on once we got home because it took me quite a while to figure it all out. You'll find out that Roadside Attractions, which is distributing this Escape Fire movie which is supposed to be the small independent movie documentary, is being distributed by Roadside Attractions who also distribute the new Richard Gere movie Arbitrage which is a Weinstein company so just to put that into your head So this movie is really good. There's a whole bunch of storylines in it and it showing you how the healthcare industry is really just trying to keep you sick, get you on pharmaceuticals... there's a soldier in there, Sergeant Yates which I have not been able to track this guy down interestingly enough

54:03 And somehow the documentary crew gets on a C-130, this guy is coming back from Afghanistan. He had a platoon of 23 only 8 cam came back down off the mountain The guys are on like 100 different psychotropic drugs And he goes to the Cleveland Clinic and he eventually learns how to wean himself off all of the drugs through a combination of yoga, meditation and some acupuncture. Now what's interesting is I have not seen this Sergeant Yates interviewed anywhere can't find him. Sgt. Yates is also very funny character on Family Guy which always like makes me suspicious when they choose a name like that

54:46 So there's just a lot of good things. But it doesn't really, the movie doesn't really go anywhere it felt like it was mis-edited and the whole idea of the title Escape Fire as it starts off and says you know when forest fires when they first discover you could create an escape fire by lighting a fire to protect yourself so you can get away that was a revolution in firefighting we need the same thing in health care We need to light some fires to change the healthcare industry And, you know they actually even showed Obama sitting there with some of the insurance companies. By the way I'm going to interrupt. Sergeant Yates is not on Family Guy he's on South Park Oh sorry, South Park thank you Even better! Even funnier So i can't find an interview with this guy and he would be prime of course to interview I've seen interviews with a filmmaker

55:44 So then, and I'm sitting next to these two women. And can I...I already feel an air of something! I don't know what it is? But then the movie ends and they do a Q&A with a couple people in the audience when Wendell was one of them. By the way, they didn't do Wendell any justice They had you know he talked about what he had done but if they really didn't and i know his shtick by now You know there's a whole bunch of solutions that he thinks as a way to fix this That doesn't come out and there's no real clear explanation as to what the escape fire for our health care industry is, which is obviously based on volume not based on curing people. So you know the more patients you can run through the system that's how everyone makes more money instead of making more money for how many more... yeah..for people being cured And then they hand out a sheet

56:38 So these people get up on stage, three of them are not in the movie or have nothing to do with the movie and it's a woman from the NAACP who does...not in the movie at all. There is um.. The representative Congresswoman from the District of Columbia I didn't even know they were allowed to have one but apparently District of Columbia does have representation only she can't vote I didn't know this. Puerto Rico does too. In fact, it's exactly the same rights as Puerto Rico. Eleanor Holmes Norton. She's a blowhard! Oh let me tell you! Wendell is up there and then two doctors and they hand out the sheet Doctors for America and I'm like looking at this

57:26 And it's a drsforamerica.org, you can go to the website It's located at 1333 H Street Northwest 10th floor in Washington DC I'll do the work for you John because i've learned this from you You google that That also happens to be the same floor where The Center For American Progress is located There it is Yep! and this whole sheet Is about the ACA Are you familiar with the term ACA? No. It is the shorthand version, it stands for Affordable Care Act i.e., the Affordable Health Care Act and now I'm like wait a minute! And then you know there's people are asking really good questions and they're answering in all the same way well the Republicans are doing the wrong thing and we can't elect Romney they even had a shill in the audience a woman stood up who had been sitting next to this Horton woman Norton what's her name?

58:23 Holmes Norton, she'd been sitting next to her the whole movie. She stands up, whoa did you think that on the debate Governor Romney was insane? And and she asked the question to Wendell and I could see Wendell go like um...I don't think i should answer that because I want to politicize anything here. So the whole movie has been hijacked into a propaganda to essentially saying, hey the Affordable Care Act ain't great but we cannot have the Republicans win and Romney win. It just blew my mind that was happening and then I see Ebert tweeting about how great the movie is all these douchebags like oh this is a great movie it's not a great movie

59:12 I would love to speak to the maker of the movie. I believe they even edited it so that there is some good stuff in it, but the true outcome isn't in there. Just so you know these douchebags and who we're talking about...I did some research on Eleanor Holmes Norton I tried to find the original audio, but couldn't. I found an NPR report from March 30th this year. Just listen to what a douchebag this is! This is Eleanor Norton, Consul in Eleanor Holmes Norton. I noticed that you have given to other colleagues on the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee...I am a senior member 20 year veteran

1:00:11 This is voicemail that Eleanor Holmes Norton, the Democratic congresswoman from Washington DC left for a lobbyist in the fall of 2010. We don't know who the lobbyist is but from the voicemail we can infer that he represents a contractor who's working on the new Homeland Security complex being built in Washington DC A complex that Eleanor Holmes Norton at the time had a lot power over. I'm handling the largest economic development project in United States now Homeland security compound of three buildings being built on the old st. Elizabeth's hospital site After pointing out that she is in charge of the project that he cares about She gets to the point I was frankly Surprised to see that we don't have a record so far as I can tell if you're having given to me despite my long and deep

1:01:01 work, essentially in your sector. I'm simply candidly calling to ask for a contribution." I'm asking you to give the citizenship of Eleanor Holmes Norton PO Box 706... Yeah! So she's calling the lobbyists and saying, You know what? I'm really important. I'm in charge of all this crap and it's amazing that they're looking at the list. Where is your name?! What? Yeah, she said where's your name. I don't see it maybe you're using a different name or is my money yeah I haven't seen you send me money That's literally what she says so this douchebag is up there misusing this movie And I'm sure this is happening everywhere

1:01:43 with doctorsforamerica.org and what's this other one they got? Patientsoverpolitics.org and it's... And you're, well let's stop discussing... No no I'm not surprised if that's your question! You're stunned by this corruption What i'm stunned by is that it took me until that evening and we had dinner with Wendell and we were reviewing him like This went nowhere this he says yeah, and that was kind of weird I could see him piecing it together too You know I could see we were just kind of like it took us a while to figure it out And I'm like who flew you in Wendell. He said cuz they're like what documentary has can just fly people in To DC and put him up for a couple days now What who flew him in oh the

1:02:36 What's it called? The Center for American Progress. I didn't know this until after done all the research and I asked like oh, okay Well, duh so and and this whole this move which i think was probably really a good documentary although now Now that I can't find this Sergeant Yates anywhere, and when you see... How would the military ever allow a documentary crew to get on C-130 that's flying wounded guys and guys with PTSD from Afghanistan to Germany. That's the first stop. And allow them free unfettered access to these kids which are just completely messed up? I question that now!

1:03:21 And now this guy just seems to, you know it's a great story but how come we're not interviewing him? How come he is not out in the forefront talking about it. And I see the interview with the guy who made the documentary... What was his name? Matthew Heineman He looks remorseful and just all these dudes Oh really?! Oh yeah! He just looks remorseful because his movie got hijacked Co-opted No, not co-opted This is a hijack So anyway, go see the movie and tell me if there's flyers or anything else that is being handed out when you see it. That's what I'd like to know because it has big distribution! This is not an independent little documentary this is distributed by Weinstein. Goebbels is smiling

1:04:16 Sounds good. Yeah, anyway so that was my yeah, that was my kudos to them Good job Eleanor Holmes Norton you douchebag I like her dad thing is funny. It's totally illegal. I think they should roster they should give her a they should She's horrible that woman. I've heard her talk way too often on C-SPAN and it was just like, oh man she is a horrible person. Yeah well you know what? So I think Breitbart... remember him the guy who got killed or mysteriously died after drinking a glass of wine so he was the one that go this voicemail

1:04:57 And so I was just reading through some of the historical stuff because this only happened in March and you know all the news reports are like, you know he's going after a black woman. It's like oh really? Really? He's going after a black... yeah! And she does have quite, you know she has a history in the civil rights movement and everything so she's got all that but let's just overlook the fact that she hadn't filed taxes for seven years and then had to pay an $80 fine and penalty when she got nailed for it. Then this thing... I just... we should try that John! We'd be like

1:05:33 You know, hi. Yeah we both be in leg irons. Hi this is Adam and John. Cleaning up crap by the side of the road. No no for the newsletter! This is a newsletter. Hi this is The Noah Jenner Show you know what? We are just looking at our list and we just...we just..you know it's funny maybe your name's not on it maybe you just use a different PayPal name or something but we can't seem to find You're, you should just have you sent us any money. We can actually legally do that but when your a member of congress you can't do that. Well apparently she did it... You can't extort a lobbyist like that! Apparently everyone does this and thats why its not reported on and she did it from a campaign cell phone so its okay

1:06:17 That's not right Duh, but did you hear about this story? No. Oh no and I'm surprised well So that's the only part of the NPR story then it go You know then they kind of gloss over it and they go into all this, you know people saying oh yeah, you know Congress is a bad Instead of this woman being you know thrown yet thrown in irons essentially So, and I knew it. My bullshit o-ometer was tingling my spidey sense was just going off like there's something in this room that is wrong Parker Huh Yeah so... So okay i've got a couple of clips that are worth listening to that are reflective of the distraction of the week which is the over analysis of Obama not giving a crap about debates and tanking

1:07:15 One is, I thought the most creative excuse for Obama. Oh Al Gore? Did you hear that one? Let's play it because i have something to say about it. Obama arrived in Denver at 2pm today just a few hours before the debate started Romney did his debate prep in Denver when you go to 5,000 feet exactly and you only have a few hours to adjust. That's interesting. I don't know, maybe... Can I say the first line? To me it is just one real quick thing here. I just came from LA the same day. You know what I did?

1:07:59 Can I say something about this? Yeah, I have something to say about it too but go on. Well first of all when you are flying in your Air Force One The actual cabin pressure is set at about 8,000 feet. So during your flight and I did he fly from Washington? I don't know if you flew from there. Who knows wasting the taxpayers money is all I know yeah so this is not like all of a sudden He's up there the mile-high city It's like we did a show from Denver Did I suck any more than usual no

1:08:54 You know, I've been to Denver a lot and i've been there in the spur of the moment. I've never had any of these effects. I played tennis once on a... On the same day I arrived with somebody and I didn't even notice that it was I didn't even think about it and didn't bother me. Now if you're at 11 or 12,000 feet which i've been at like telluride is eleven or twelve thousand feet You get a little winded but even there you don't get pooped! I mean I've played croquet at 5,000 feet and had no issues at all Well maybe he's still smoking Right that may be it yeah, maybe that maybe that's what was made that actually baby But they won't bring that up now but maybe that's what I think did you see the part of the video we one? Of our producers see ISO the video of the battery pack. No. I did not see it Yeah wasn't sent a copy me there was no I tweeted it. I tweeted a screen capture of it Maybe it was just a pack of smokes. Yeah, you said that was a joke you used last time. I know but it's true altitude of Washington DC It's got your dinghy

1:09:58 Maybe it's just true. Okay, all right so anyway so I got the I just thought that was the lamest possible thing to dream of Al Gore Chris no one saw it but you know a few people because he did that I saw and that chunk guy what a sellout Oh chunk yeah sell out So I live it just as a just something off the wall here's the clip what I think should be the clip of the day Yeah Which is L Sharpton won? With all the rest behind it. As we've been saying last night, Mitt Romney did a real job on The Truth but then he got really low He went after Big Bird That is what that is the Al Sharpton show in a nutshell Wow I was really wasn't expecting it No you deserve it I bet you got to follow up for it

1:11:01 Anyway, well I just have the other Al Sharpton clip is out for people who want to hear something. This is what passes for a show on MSNBC if you can understand a word he says The clip is just simple it's Al Sharpton Is An Idiot Finally tonight a criminal investigation is underway in Florida. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement is probing a Republican voter registration firm that was hired by the Republican National Committee We reported about strategic allied consulting the firms accused of registering dead people as GOP voters, of submitting registrations with fake addresses and

1:11:46 and of having similar looking signatures on voter forms. The firms run by Nathan Spruill, in the past he's been investigated for tricking Democrats into registering as Republicans, secretly re-registered Democrats as Republicans and shredding Democratic registration forms. He has never been charged or convicted but knowing this the RNC still hired him to run voter registration So this is a typical case of when a writer and the host are separated by a concrete wall. And I've seen, you know this happens on television when someone who is writing is not writing for the person who was reading and Sharpton he has no idea what he's saying. He literally has no idea. There's no real conflict! Except for that

1:12:44 They got you right. Oh, so he goes on and he says he's accused of this and accuses that he's never been found guilty Of anything but despite that the republicans keep him on what? What kind of a net what is that? What does that mean? The guy is innocent Of wrongdoing apparently because I guess he's never been found guilty But despite the fact that he's innocent they keep him on Is that what he's saying That's awesome isn't it Guy is an idiot and the fact him as NBC keeps him on on this show is astonishing What is what pictures does he have? Who knows unbelievable Unbelievable. Yeah, yeah well I'm The more I think about it. I mean the whole

1:13:38 Big Bird, the whole session. By the way how come no one is talking with this comment about you know the funding for PBS? Does anyone ever watch PBS does anyone notice that they have I don't know commercials every 15 minutes They don't need Congress's funding it's a commercial outfit Right, it's a commercial outfit and even so they'll tell you themselves that the Corporation for Public Broadcasting I think the government provides less than 10% of their funding or something. It's a small number so to pull that out and let more Arthur Davis Vining and Bill Milindegates and all these other people pony up more what's wrong with that? Yeah yeah

1:14:26 Let the Burlington Northern people give more money so they don't talk about trains. So, some interesting things happening in Europe... Wait wait wait before you go there I do have to do one more clip about this because i want you to tell me if it's kind of a gaffe again this is another rant about Obama screwing up This is from Carvel uh... i don't think you know much about the can understand what he says but cd and catch this little bit in your freeze from louisiana you know that i had one all-around impression of that everything i could not to reach it but i had a reach did look like romney wanted to be there are incredible bomber didn't want me to have he seemed like he was happy to be here today at a bomb field gave him an impression that just the whole thing with kind of a lot of trouble i don't go into the business group cannot

1:15:29 You know, go ahead. Now I do not know what we don't know is again We gotta do like we said we got to think of what the judges think The judges? Yeah What is this American Idol Alright, alright. I'm sorry. I take it back this is the clip of the day oh Man let me get these jingle for it. I just Resend it Oh my God we got to see what the judges think judges What do you think? We have Britney Spears and well? I didn't like it when he did my song. Oh my goodness That's funny

1:16:12 Oh man. What a douche! Judges... You know his wife sits on his head? What's her name? Yeah, Marilee Matlin. Maitland-Matlin. She's funny because their politics are just the opposite but Well that's their shtick. Please. They're just money makers. And by the way they do a fine job at that You know, you don't see us sitting there raking in the dough talking about judges. Judges? Let me just hit Europe for a second here. Yes A couple things so we had first of all Athens is crazy what's going on in Greece we have Angela Merkel she will be visiting they're gonna bring out 7000 additional police agents for her visit

1:17:10 I don't even know why she's... 7000? Yes. I don't know why she is going, She must be insane to want to go there. She's nuts! That's crazy They literally put pictures of her in a Nazi uniform in the newspaper Now I can't believe that she's going there but yeah she's goin' She gonna say hi check it out see how its going on down there In the lower portion of her empire But you know theres this thing called Lagarde's list. Now this is very poorly reported, if at all here in just in general and so here's what I understand that Christine Lagard when she was still finance minister to France received a list of about 2,000 politicians mainly Greek but also German politicians

1:18:07 who had received kickbacks and had put an aggregate of 1.5 billion euros into Swiss accounts in an HSBC branch in Geneva to be exact, 1991 public and political figures were on this list And she had given this list to the Prime Minister of Greece And so everyone's freaking out because, you know... where is the list? And apparently the list was on a CD and then it was stolen. So the whole country is freaking out but not just Greece but in Germany as well. It's kind of like some big blackmail scandal about Lagarde's List

1:18:57 And this is supposed to have names from political media circles and everyone's just kind of waiting for something to start leaking out or there's some huge scandal going on. It is very hard to understand exactly what is happening but there's Lagarde's list and we're just, I'm waiting to see what names will be on this because it doesn't just have to be Greek politicians So amongst all this, Angela is going to visit with her 7000 troops. Her Sturmbannführer troops and we shall see how this correlates but I'm... This is crazy! I think she's not unrelated. I think she's going down to get herself a copy of the list or something like that. Seven thousand? We thought Obama's trips were expensive No no no, She's out of control

1:19:52 Meanwhile, Spain very upset. Very very upset with Mitt Romney You'll recall that he said Spain spends 42% of their total economy on government We're now spending 42 percent of our economy on government I don't want to go down the path of SPAIN! Yeah so he's not welcoming Marbella anymore Yeah, that's bad. But the best one and I think you received this email And then I saw the video and of course you can watch the video there's no usable audio for the show but it looks...and we got this from our producer Nelson Ferreira It looks like Portugal has given up they are a country in distress In fact i think maybe I had maybe I do have the report

1:20:39 This might actually be pretty funny. Let me see... Euroland, Euroland don't I have a Euroland clip somewhere? Well i guess i don't So they had the October 5th was their national republic day Which is a holiday and there were couple things different this year. First of all, they announced that the holiday will be abolished next year Remember this isn't national holiday So on the holidays we're not gonna do it next year The prime minister was not at the ceremony The ceremony was closed to the public for the first time ever and here's the best part I wish I had that huh? I thought I had a video of that

1:21:23 They hoisted the flag upside down, which of course is the international signal for distress. That's right when you put the flag upside down! Yeah that means you're in distress and so they hoisted the flag upside down and it's like this is not a mistake people This is a real signal we have to go into Portugal and help our brothers and sisters they're in trouble Well, we got a report which I'm going to put most of it in the next newsletter from Garcia in Spain. Okay good and he had a couple corrections he wanted to make sure we knew about him first of all he explains the demonstrations and how they relate to the public

1:22:10 But he did make one thing, uh... He stopped- he started with this one thing. It says the BBC reports that we ran on the railway workers on strike? Yeah Let me just read the sentence here and it'll be in the newsletter The protests against privatization of railways are something barely talked about here! What?! Heard it first on the clip you played And he lives IN Spain In Madrid Wait a minute. So wait a minute, so what's the angle then? The BBC is full of crap and it was a distraction story to keep us from getting to the point. Well could it be distraction or was it related to their own train problems because they've had all kinds of shit with their trains. That could be yeah well it can't be as bad as it is here. Yeah that's possible. Alright thats what I'm thinking it was. That makes sense

1:23:01 Yeah, well he goes on with some other very interesting deconstructions which I'll put in the next week's newsletter. It will be very interesting it is a lot of good stuff Well i have my own little deconstruction not hard to do but of course... By the way ill sign him off though what's going on around here mainly chaos and protests yeah there you go and no service for you! In Spain? I understand that in Spain and Portugal if you go there on vacation that You don't want to show up with a credit card in the restaurant. They they they want cash because of the Don't send your blankets or your money or water just we just wanna cash exactly We just need cash I know a lot of people wanna send blankets serve water

1:23:50 Just send your cash. So we were wondering of course, you know how what is going on with these seats on American Airlines? We obviously know that there's a union dispute going on but no no American Airlines has come up with the answer I'm sure you were sent many copies of this John one of the most emailed stories of the week It is because of soda and other gunk that has fallen on the floor and has loosened the actual bolting through the fuselage So I think coca-cola should now be on the on a banned list of Terrorist substances, you know. You can bring a whole plane down it starts coming apart! You may be missing the real point in that

1:24:38 story. Okay! Another excuse not to serve anything by the cheap bastards that run American Airlines. No, no well that was going to be my follow-up is... Oh I beat you to it. I stepped on it. That's okay and that's alright. Welcome to my world Yeah but its..but thats exactly it like I'm sorry we can't serve you any fizzy drinks anymore would you like a cup of water? Thats about it Why does anybody fly in those...actually them and... What It's really, it's just terrible. Flying is just bogative! Who the hell wants to fly anymore? So I have a theory... Alright. So i came out of Seattle to come back here

1:25:22 and uh... tell me how is your experience did you opt out generally opt-out but i found that the nor does i think it's called a northern term in the first term if you look at this that the uh... that the whole operation from a distance on the very very far right hand in the corner there is a So a TSA thing and it, and you can get to every gate by going through that one. There's some ones you can't get all the gates from but this one you can because it links you to the underground subway that goes around the airport takes you all different gates And its way over just then it was dead empty cause is so far away from everything else It is like...it's ridiculous. So the furthest left entrance does not have a scanner

1:26:13 It doesn't have a scan, it just has a magnetometer. Now I'm beginning to wonder because Oakland has if you go into the southwest terminal 2 the middle of all the x-ray machines, the middle aisle as it were if we wanted to call it that none of the extra machines just has a magnetometer So I'm wondering if there's one spot in every airport for the insiders. Oh, that are going to do nothing but create problems anyways like a wink-wink nudge-nudge look we know you're gonna come through this airport we know you're gonna ask for an opt out we know that you're gonna do that because you're a troublemaker and it was going to take two apart time we got to find some guy to feel you up and we don't like doing that so if you pay some attention idiot

1:27:05 You'll find there's one row you can go down. It doesn't have the x-ray machine and you could just go through the magnetometer, and that's that well this is not the case at At Austin And this is now you check every single entrance of those only two reason There's only two there's only to be sure yeah Yeah I'm very sure but in May 30 maybe it's only a California thing I don't know not in Los Angeles seem to not a loss and you see nope There's no way you checked all the entrances to LAX. There are too many of them Well, I've checked the ones that I fly on So I have to fly a different airline Once your inside the bubble You can go into any one of those things generally I'll betcha there is one at LAX somewhere Okay alright Alright Im with ya

1:27:55 I'm just guessing, and i could be wrong. Maybe other people that listen to the show if they have their airport with one entrance that has no x-ray machine send us a note and then we'll make a little database for our No Agenda listeners and then they'll know what you know... They don't have to deal with it although you know it's always nice to opt out well I think this idea of just having a... I think the idea of having a No Agenda database of these types of things is great anyway I'm gonna think about it. Maybe it's just a wiki here we go for the first time in my life I'll agree with you this is probably a good thing for a wiki so it'd be it's called the Hmm the premier service No, pre-premier what do we call it? Premier Service and premiere valet service database So we tell you every single Airport where you can go through the premiere line with your coach class ticket

1:28:49 And then where you can opt, we don't have to opt out or where they have friendly TSA agents who fill you up and carry your stuff nicely. Yeah! We should set that up when what we should do is look at our list of URLs that we have a ton of and find one that would be appropriate and get ahold the guy who has it and have it transferred to us put a Wiki on it and just let it go just cut loose Hey! That's great Alright Guess What? I'm not gonna do it Are You?! Yeah, I'm gonna put the Seattle and Oakland information in there. Oh no but I mean follow through on setting it up oh Well well There's that so is that Basically you just told me to go through the list find a URL contact the person and set up The wiki is that what I just understood? They want make sure

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1:44:10 the uh... also was killed in this new his podcast a robin dan show and robin dand dot tds video game news an opinion showing we don't pull any punches good for you possible that'll be i will also wanted thank god look at them on our motel dot com took a look at this plan also think our new name night group next from uh... movement good connect to connect and while we have seen match Oh, Curry and Mimi. I met him in Port Townsend in a cool bar and he handed over we handed him his ring that he was wanted and we handed the ended over us some salt. What a good deal He wants to do meetups in the Seattle area used to do this as a profession

1:45:05 One of as many previous jobs, I guess. So i really like the Monarch Motel but here's my recommendation...I'm going to give a free Curry Dvorak consulting tip! Free? Well not free...there should be a memo about this! I think you should go to the website John and click on photo gallery. Hold on a second...what's the uh what is it? The Monarch Motel. Like Project Monarch from, you know. And what's the town? Just do monarchmotel.com Oh, I see it okay sorry. monarchmotel.com This is a free tip A free tip for the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group When your posting pictures of your motel room Which looks nice and looks clean It looks simple I don't see the photo gallery Okay let me catch up Yeah

1:46:02 You see the photo titled room 2. Yeah, I see it! Okay when you take these photos remove the coat hangers It's not a good look in your photo That's nice! Looks like a nice room. It's a great room but... One bedroom looks like one-bedroom Yeah, we gotta take the coat hanger out. The coat hanger has to go. That's really not a good idea. I would just close that. It looks nice though Looks nice. We can get free income on it. You're in a motel now, is probably not as good as this place. Uh no this place uh... This place is severely full of chunkage It's quite bad actually The room rates here are 50 bucks a night 60 a night Really? On holidays its 80 Holy crap that's a good deal No we're paying more, we're paying 150

1:47:00 150 for a motel room? It's not a motel. It's billed as a hotel! Yeah, but just because they call it a hotel doesn't mean it's a hotel Well hey look man this is uh we're investing in Miss Mickey's career here Okay all right well anyway that concludes our segment of Then who's in the art we do ours. Thank Martin JJ for the arts Yeah, well no we're not good because we have to remind you of orac org slash and a And we have our fifth anniversary on October 23rd You can go to divorce that works like this 26 I thought was 23rd Oh 26

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1:48:36 Congratulations to you and all of our birthday boys and girls from your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe I always feel like Captain Kangaroo when I do that the birthdays. You do? Do you miss doing that? I don't know maybe or maybe more like Mr.. Rogers just some kind one of these Children because we're like hey happy birthday Maybe it was romper room. I thought you were...I was associating the whole bit with the thing that used to be done on The Today Show by Willard Oh no, 100 years old and she still reads the newspaper without her glasses! Right? That. THAT. No not that. And please draw your blade sir Here it comes Alright Very good

1:49:27 Thomas Rice and Shane Castile, step forward gentlemen. I am so proud to welcome both of you into the Elusive Club which means you shall be receiving the ring that goes along with your knighthood as we bring you into the round table here And because of your donation in the amount of $1,000 or more in total We hereby pronounce the Knight To The Nogent Round Table Sir Thomas and Sir Shane Please come on over before your hookers are blown, your red boys from Chardonnay Your shits and giggles and sake, and your... hot pants and booze. Geishas! That's what it was. Geishas in what? Sake. Sake and geishas I couldn't remember the name. Geishas and saki not saki and geishas huge difference. I gotta write this down because the list is getting so long well it's getting long I used to be able to do it from memory yeah cuz there was one thing oh and we had visitors here Sir Tom

1:50:25 A Dame, actually St. Nicole showed up here at the hotel yesterday they came to see Mickey's show and say hi. You know St. Nicole is a nurse that's why she went from a dame to becoming a saint and could you just nudge the No Agenda Ring Department for me? Because they've apparently... Okay. Yeah, apparently she says she's gonna get on it as she probably well here's the deal here's the deal She needs a size 7 but what and I heard yesterday and this is no surprise because she was there when that when you said it that they were going to they're waiting for her ring so they can get married They want to exchange the night rings

1:51:12 Oh, okay. I'll push Mimi onto that immediately. So I feel pretty...I was really embarrassed about this Yeah, I'm sure you were and it's just the way it is These rings do not go on a routine basis No! I know, I know That's why I said nudge didn't make a big deal out of it? I'll push if they're going to use the rings for something important You mean as opposed to letters supposed to hitting people in the mouth like that's not important all of a sudden John Cena I haven't seen that many people hit. No, I mean police Police and just a couple things for the vernacular for those of you who are new to the program it is Hitting people in the mouth not punching and it is the best Podcasts in the universe not the greatest because the greatest It's not quite the same as the best best is better than greatest

1:52:05 Yeah, they do say greatest a lot. And it's just wrong. It doesn't bother me so much. I know it bothers you. Science! Science! It's just in. Coffee drinkers might want to think about switching to decaf according to a nationwide study people who drink more than three cups of caffeinated coffee each day could increase their risk of developing glaucoma researchers say compounds in coffee might increase pressure on the eye and cause glaucoma potentially leading to vision loss and blindness. Potentially. They say caffeine in tea, soda and chocolate does not seem to have that same effect on eyesight

1:52:43 And it's not caffeine, is it? No. It was a meta-analysis that they did. I couldn't get the report because you have to pay to get this great report and it turns out that when they looked at the results women who had glaucoma in the family seemed to have an increased risk of getting glaucoma while drinking coffee Like, are you kidding me? So this- I guess there's a new Isanka brand or something come on. Have you seen anything yet? Is there a new decaffeinated coffee that's on the market? There's got to be a campaign coming up! Yeah about decaf. Yeah good. I just want the producers who listen to this show... Why would they even put this stuff on the news?! It's a commercial duh!! That's why it's a commercial so i'm looking for the commercial. It's not as good as this one though

1:53:46 I like this one. Academic from SUNY Albany, which is a college right? SUNY? SUNY! S-U-N-Y? State University of New York That's right, SUNY Is proposing a cure for morning sickness Gordon Gallup psychologist at SUNY Albany has a theory that pregnant women who are continually exposed to the father semen are less likely to suffer from morning sickness Gallup who specializes in human reproductive competition really competition and behavior Offer petition. It says human reproductive competition and behavior I guess that's yeah

1:54:30 Go, go, go! Do it. You can do it. You can reproduce. Offers a theory that expectant women become ill and vomit because their bodies are rejecting the semen's genetic material as something foreign and unfamiliar The theory could feasibly quell their queasiness by ingesting the same sperm in order to allow the body to build up a tolerance So this I think is a brilliant move by this researcher who should receive a Nobel Prize If I understand this correctly, he is advocating oral sex before you get pregnant even so you'll be used to it when you get pregnant and won't have morning sickness. A round of applause for this researcher! I've heard a lot of ways to try and trick women into doing this but this is the best

1:55:28 And it involves all the way. This is at least as good as the popcorn box in The Lab. I mean this is great, this guy's a genius! We should erect a statue. If you had it, if you had a clip... I knew he'd like it! I do actually have something that I'm quite pleased about and that I would like to discuss but I kind of got an ease into it. You know Jim Savile Jim Savile was a very famous disc jockey and he also hosted Top of the Pops in the United Kingdom. And he had another show which is called, Jim Will Fix It!

1:56:15 And he would go around and kids would have a problem, and they'd send him a letter. And you know like, oh Jim I don't have...I need a swing set or I got one leg Jim! I need some help! And Jim would get on the television, come over and Jim would come in fix it. Oh hold on a second, I've got a big problem here. I'm in the middle of my Jim will fix this story and Mickey just texted me that she's outside of the hotel room and her card doesn't work So you have to get up. Yeah, hum for a minute. And open the door. Yeah, hum for a minute. Tell her to stop wrecking the show! So I got this book and I'm gonna...I think I'll put quotes in there. It's okay because we have a study that shows how you could thank me for that no worries

1:57:03 Okay, you got her. You did that that quick? What do you right next to the door it's not a big hotel It's a motel could have done this without saying anything no I had to get an embarrassing the poor woman now Okay so Would you please I was gonna say something let me So I got this you've got the picture of Jim off top never mind keep going okay? So you need to google a picture of Jim Savile And just look at Jim Saville, S-A-V-I-L-L-E. He's been in the news all over the place. Is it Saville? I think it's Saville. I think that's how pronounced. S-A-V...S-A-V...? Yeah, I-L-L-E. L-L-E. Yeah, I think that's it. Jim Saville. Maybe I'm wrong on this stuff. This guy with a cigar?! That's the guy! Jim will fix it! Sir James Wilson Vincent Saville Oh yeah, oh yeah no he was knighted and everything So now the guy died a couple months ago

1:57:58 And now all these stories come out about how he was abusing kids, the Jim will fix it guy. And if you look at the picture John I mean is it whoa? Is that the president? The guy with the... He's wearing orange sunglasses. He's got a huge cigar. He's wearing what looks like a wrestling outfit Uh-huh and he's giving a big thumbs up and he's got a pinky ring Yeah That's Jim Will Fix It Yes! And he's a knight in the OBE yes that's correct So now there's this huge scandal because it turns out that he was fiddling about with little boys. And all these men are now coming forward who were saying, yeah you know when Uncle Jim took me to the party and you know there was all of these other famous people and they'd be fiddling around with me!

1:58:50 And now one after the other is coming out and of course this is after the guy's dead, all you have to do is look at the guy. He has a show called Jim will fix it for Christ sakes You gotta know there was something up with this guy I mean just look at the guy! Does he look like...I mean if you had to draw a picture of a child molester would that be the guy? He's pretty close to it. Yeah! So now you've got all these people saying, yeah I know i worked at the BBC because of course this is the big scandal was that people were telling superiors at the BBC hey man Jim he's fixing kids but not in a good way and the BBC did nothing

1:59:31 So now, here's an example. This came out just yesterday morning. I have to say in the 80s which is when i started in radio and television things were very different and I was... I mean not to name any names but I was once very unpleasantly gripped while I was broadcasting by a famous individual who shall remain nameless and when I... Nameless? Why not name him?! So this is, you know it's a bunch of nuts. They're all like fiddling about and touching each other and even John Peel is now implicated in this. Of course they only do this with dead people. Sorry? Who did you say was also implicated? John Peel. Oh okay. Famous! Very famous. Anyway...

2:00:16 So, you know and it feels like there's some of course the other still all this stuff we recently talked about the woman who was up there on a you know the Isle of Jersey and they're getting kicked out and got the orphanage there. And if you really get into this in your really read about all these people do you really quickly get the feeling that is a huge pedobear ring? And its filled with elites and famous people and politicians etc Now what has been one of my pet peeves, this show actually started around the time... What happened John? I don't know. Yeah you do! When i was on the radio station in Holland Oh yeah they burned the place to the ground! I get emails from people saying oh man did he have pictures of fire? No they didn't actually burn it to the ground but I brought up on the show that this the Secretary General of the Ministry of Justice in The Netherlands Joris Demink

2:01:15 that he's a pedophile and there was an investigation, they stopped it. There was nothing to see here all kinds of people are being shut up the media were shut up everyone was silenced I brought it out guess what? I got fired and the station lost its license lost funding and the equivalent of being burned to the ground so this guy is now retiring in two weeks He is 64 So that's pretty much the equivalent of being dead, I guess in politics since he is of no use to anybody anymore and it starts coming out in mainstream media. That he's being accused of pedophilia and there are a couple very courageous lawyers and they have taken this all the way to the Helsinki Commission Now you may not be familiar with the Helsinki Commission John

2:02:11 But it is actually, it has its seat in Washington DC. I'll read about the Commission. The Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, known as the Helsinki Commission is an independent US government agency created in 1976 to monitor and encourage compliance with the Helsinki Final Act and other OSCE commitments so this is obviously a human rights commission and a couple of senators are on the on the commission and they hold hearings they don't really have any power they can't really do anything but here is the opening two minutes from the most recent hearing on October 4th and I'll give you the guy's name again. His name is Demink, although it is here pronounced as D'minck That leaves me speechless What is going on here? Do the courts in The Netherlands take human trafficking seriously? No This afternoon we're going to consider how and to what extent allegations of trafficking and abuse should be investigated

2:03:13 will do so in the context of a particular series of cases, in which very serious allegations have been raised against the Secretary General at the Ministry of Justice in The Netherlands Mr. Joris de Meck. Mr De Meck has been accused by a witness that will present today of sexually abusing and raping the witness when the witness was being trafficked in a brothel in Amsterdam at the age of 15 The investigation into these accusations was suddenly and inexplicably halted, and law enforcement officials involved were allegedly sworn to secrecy. Mr. Demek has been accused by two Turkish boys now adults of having raped them in Turkey between 1994 and the year 2003 at the time the boys were 11 and 14 at least one of them was homeless

2:04:07 and trusted the Turkish police officer who brought him to Mr. Demek The other was allegedly locked in a hotel room with Mr. Demek, who assaulted him sexually The allegations are shocking and horrible Mr. Demek has a right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law And that is a sacred right that I'm sure we all want to protect At the same time, the allegations when taken in their full context are credible and deserve to be properly investigated so that a prosecutor can make a responsible decision whether to proceed with the case against Mr. Dimek That investigation has never happened The investigations that have taken place have been a travesty and done nothing to clear Mr. Dimek's name rather they have raised further questions

2:05:00 Yesterday, the Netherlands Minister of Security and Justice Mr. Op Stelsten wrote to the Dutch Parliament regarding this case enlisting in the actions taken by the Justice Department in regards to allegations against Mr. De Mecque The letter states that I quote, ''The nature of Mr. de Mecque's job warrants a degree of vigilance'' Quote unquote I could not agree more The fact that Mr. de Mecque is the Secretary General of the Ministry of Justice The very entity responsible to investigate the charges against him should mean that the investigation into the allegations was one of the most thorough, transparent and well-documented investigations ever undertaken by The Netherlands. Not only are those making the allegations literally taking on the Dutch justice system in person... ...in the person of its top officials but the reputation of the Ministry of Justice itself is on the line."

2:05:56 So you can watch the two and a half hours of testimony link in the show notes at 450.nashownotes.com But it looks like this scum is now being thrown under the bus and yeah, no I mean there's... Let's just stop for a second let's couple things A Do you feel vindicated? I feel much better yes Despite the fact that you ruined that station You think this guy's actually gonna get they're gonna get anywhere with this. I feel well So, I don't feel vindicated. I'm not a vindictive person But I'm happy that this is coming to the forefront and that it has been published in mainstream newspapers and that people are realizing That I guess the main thing is that I'm happy about is that I see people saying oh man I heard you talk about that

2:06:54 So maybe the next... Six years ago before they burnt the station down. Yeah, but so maybe the next time someone raises the flag people will listen because of course it's been five six years and who'd actually expect that to happen? To some degree yes. Yeah well good luck! Okay what else do you want to ask? Nothing I just thought it was a interesting uh it was almost like a catharsis listening to this You're fine. I got your demon this creepy guy whoever he is Demonic Domenic Deming is now under scrutiny yeah, yeah good so I was reminded of Jeff Smith Hopefully in some other manner than then this no no no not our Jeff Smith spell with the G Oh Jeff Smith the cook

2:07:50 The Frugal Gourmet, who was on PBS all those years. And then was rousted as a pedophile and even though he's married and the whole thing which obviously doesn't mean that much to him... That means crap! What does that have to do with it? I'm just saying it doesn't but anyway he was rousted as a pedophile and then while you're doing the report I looked him up and this came into mind because I found one of his cookbooks at some book fair I didn't buy it because his cooking was always terrible. He's called a frugal gourmet. Yeah, and it sucked No, he was the frugal gourmet is funny cuz he died of heart disease in 65 right? Right So there's the frugal gourmet supposed to I don't know what frugal had to do with it And he had this theme that always pointed out I turned his cooking show on once in awhile and they point out to the kids Let's say look

2:08:42 Look what he cooked! It looks like everything else he cooked. A big brown mess." And so I would, you can ask Buzzkill Jr., he remembers me doing this... I believe it. Like, a big brown mess. Everything he cooked looked the same. Big brown mess. I can just imagine the kids going yeah dad okay we got it now it was funny the first 50 times It wasn't meant to be funny. So he had a bunch of books out, the Frugal Gourmet, The Frugal Gourmet Cooks with Wine, The Frugal Gourmet Cooks American, and it was leveraging on PBS which I thought was interesting and he was leveraging his little logo for... Another hotbed of Pete O'Bear activity. Apparently! Yeah, rife, I'm telling you. So I got vindicated because he was making crappy food?

2:09:34 No, no I'm talking about you know a prediction or something. I'd said Sarah geek girl out of rattlehead She has sent me a note to mention that it was in the telegraph They wrote about this a quote anyway You mean Sara are hot Russian spy is that geek girl? That's my Russian spy what do you mean? Okay well she sent me a note that he's your geek girl and It says geek girl, that's her very email is geekgirl at. But she supposed to be a Russian spy? She probably is and she's reading the telegraph and she ran into this as one of this she says just wanted to let you know your offbeat prediction came true Oh it's a prediction I made about both this show into twit broadcast and everyone's going yeah whatever

2:10:17 The Korean made Galaxy S3 smartphone hit the headlines recently when a California court ordered its maker Samsung to pay Apple $1 billion for infringement of copyrights. Buoyed by all the free publicity, US sales of the Galaxy soared briefly overtaking the iPhone industry analysts concluded that by telling the world that the galaxy was really just like the iPhone only cheaper Apple had done Samsung a billion dollar favor Well that and I'd have to say their commercials are really really good You know the one where all the idiots are standing in line for the iPhone right? That's a great commercial. I love got the connector on the bottom Whoa, that's crazy did they just touch phones

2:11:06 I do love that commercial. It's very funny. They're smart, they're genius! The Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group couldn't have done a better job No? I don't think so... That was done by some pros Here's an ad for you Just to get us in a little happy mood. At Walgreens, we know kids share all kinds of things especially germs that's why you always get your flu shot this year at Walgreens will do you one better and check if there are any other immunizations you might need absolutely free no appointment necessary preparing you for years of unplanned sharing to come

2:11:45 At Walgreens and take care clinics, we've got all kinds of ways to arm yourself for flu season. And they're all right here at the corner of happy and healthy. At the corner of happy and healthy! Isn't that a Creedence Clearwater? Yes! Down by the corner! Yeah down by the Walgreens Corner. That's right! At the corner of happy and healthy get your shots We'll give them all to you not a problem Get your shots, get your shots kiddies It's good for ya So I got a, uh, there's an interesting thing that's going to be coming our way. It's out of China. I guess it was too complicated in China to use credit cards and so somebody came with this new idea and they're gonna use this and i think this could catch on worldwide is the finger and its typical you know New World Order stuff. Oh! I actually have some information on this let me hear play the clip yeah

2:12:45 Cool. Do you dare go shopping without carrying a wallet? Well, now you can by pressing your finger right here! The system will recognize your fingerprint and take money from your bank account without you having to do anything else This is a biometric authentication system which identifies users by their fingerprints And the payment setup is called Fingerprint Payment Chen Xiaofeng, the founder of the company that developed this fingerprint payment system in Shanghai says it will simplify everyone's life. Bank cards that everyone uses nowadays are actually just media that proves you are the owner of a particular bank account It is a medium for identification We can now use fingerprints to prove that you're the owner of your bank account One finger is enough

2:13:33 Most major banks in Shanghai have begun offering registration for the fingerprint payment service. Customers can register the service at bank counters, kiosks or hotlines or websites After registering their fingerprints customers just need to press their finger on this device to pay their bills Their fingerprint information will be processed and compared with those existing in the system's database And if it matches, it pays your bill. The whole process takes around 30 seconds about 10 seconds faster than the average credit or debit card transaction I've tried it! It is very convenient and I like it Many white collar workers like to use fingerprint payment to pay for their coffee here It's very convenient, the feedback is good, it is very fast and no signature is needed They like it a lot

2:14:23 He doesn't understand this situation. Yeah, that means someone can chop off your finger. It's a... yeah you have your finger cut off unfortunately but they have it so there is the temperature sensor you'd have to keep the finger in some warm water or something In your mouth! You just keep it in your mouth I think its new use for roofies For roofies?

2:14:58 Yeah, you knock somebody anybody out with a roofie and when your bill comes you grab them because they're past that look like their pet your buddies passed out and You grabbed her finger And you put it on the thing boom you're out of there. You just leave the person there I think tell me this is gonna be a scandalous thing you're gonna have people using roofies did not pay their bill I think you're just gonna chop someone's finger off keep it warm in your mouth and then take it around like a cigarette Now you gotta roll it around in your cheek Yeah, that's where you keep it warm. I will say I learned one thing from my friend who told me about the Flowers of War movie in China He says there is no such thing as credit for the typical Chinese So everything you pay in advance so your... There's no electric bill that you get he says every apartment

2:15:46 Has a meter, has a whole bunch of meters. It has meters for water for electricity For internet for everything and then you go and you take your bank card And you pre-pay and then you can see the meter going down as to how much You paid for your electricity Yeah so I guess that's what they want. It's just like, stick my finger on it. You know what the whole country in debt? Yeah but it was probably all debit card stuff with their fingers. No its direct bank cards yeah but thats kind of genius because that means that the typical Chinese slave doesn't have huge credit card debt right which is actually not a good idea if you want to enslave people well put them into great debt they're learning

2:16:36 But you know they'll figure it out. They got the whole finger thing working That's a that's a good start, and I wonder if you can use any finger Can you use your middle finger the little finger big thing? I mean I Think you should use the middle finger just put that down every time yeah, what'd you think great idea all right well let's see I got some here. Yeah, what you got? There's a couple things there's a good report a good report at this I think came out of China to a drone nightmare Report talking about the drones and the Pakistanis are finally they deciding to do something yeah They're protesting their their pissed. Yeah, Oh big protest critically they hunt down the enemy without boots on the ground

2:17:20 But one former British soldier with first-hand experience says drones make it too easy to kill. James Jeffrey was in Afghanistan in 2009, monitoring live pictures from a drone He saw what looked like a man planting a roadside bomb and was about to call in a strike Then someone else appeared The individual who walked up was a lot larger, indicating that actually it was probably a child in the middle of the road just playing. And so obviously at that point the engagement was totally called off

2:17:56 But it was an unsettling experience because I'd come fairly close to engaging that target, which was a child. At the forefront of opposition to the drones Imran Khan, the former cricketing hero who now heads a political party This weekend he hopes to lead a protest all the way to the tribal areas He told us the drones are backfiring Are they decreasing the number of militants? Are they winning the war Is there less extremism? Everything is getting worse. There is more extremism in Pakistan today than ever in our history. The huge pieces which are from the Hellfire missiles... Lawyer Shazad Akbar from the legal charity Reprieve, is collecting missile fragments for use in court actions by the wounded and the bereaved. Yes I read this morning that they already stopped the protest

2:18:53 Yeah, yeah. The question on my mind besides the fact this guy was freaked out and obviously quit the job after I'm was blowing up some little kid that was just building a you know sandcastle What was this British guy doing? Is he working sound like he's a British guy what is he doing is he working for the MI6 doing this? Probably all CIA operations That's a British guy doing looking at videos. Yeah, there's a kill him Yeah, I don't know. It's very unclear to me... Well it's like this what happened yesterday Who is flying on Israel from the air? That's what its military is wondering after shooting down a drone in southern Israel. Look at this video, statement from the Israeli Defense Forces It says it is not clear where the drone came from but it carried no weapons or explosives Israeli soldiers are searching for clues in the area where it was brought down So I was talking to our knight here who showed up yesterday with his lovely dame and saint

2:19:53 and he let me put this way he's from Virginia and so he saying the thing about the drones He says you have no idea how many how many drones are being built and shipped all around the world is there's no accountability And this is exactly it this you know when you hear some British guy he could be working for a company John It doesn't have to be an army or intelligence unit You, and I if we can pony together enough money. We can build the drone We can have it go fly somewhere, and if we don't know if you know we got a competitor Like we make an iPhone, like hey you know what? We gotta screw this Apple company. Let's drone Foxconn! We can do that?! This is the problem with the drones... Is no accountability You don't know who they are They don't all have the American flag painted on their side

2:20:46 In fact, even the American ones don't have the American flag painted on the side. Thank you! Thank you! You've seen the drones they're just a big piece of gray metal And so these things anyone can... look kids are flying little mini-drones But anyone could put together a drone and now there's enough parts and enough pieces all over the place that you can, it's going to be used for industrial warfare. Well they had that guy who was on YouTube video I think we discussed it when he came out about two or three four five months ago this guy had rigged up a submachine gun Yeah turns out that's fake

2:21:22 Oh, is the whole thing was fake? That video was fake. Now the... But it may be fake but there's a doable situation you can do it if you had enough of big enough drone that by the way promise to wait and wait as they shoot. That that's my favorite guy that's the Russian guy who shoots all kinds of crazy weapons yeah his YouTube channel is without a doubt one of my favorites but that one with the machine gun mounted on the drone that was fake and I have that on high authority from one about other producers also enlisted somewhere. I can't, I gotta start watching what i say we have so many people telling us so many cool things for instance what's really going on in Syria and Turkey

2:22:05 Yeah, I have a clip about that. Hold on hold on...I'll play it for you and then we'll play yours. ...civil war is spilling over its borders today the Turkish village of Govec was hit by two mortar shells nobody was hurt and it's thought the shells were lobbed into Turkey by mistake during fighting between Syrian rebels and regime forces but the Turkish military returned fire for the fourth day in a row Turkey has openly sided with the rebels in Syria's conflict, though so far it hasn't intervened directly. Now some fear that border skirmishes between the two countries could escalate into a regional war On Wednesday, a mortar bomb fired from Syria killed five civilians in a Turkish border town including a mother and her three children

2:22:51 In response, the Turkish parliament voted to approve the use of force against Syria if it's deemed necessary. Today Turkey's deputy prime minister described that decision as a warning we have to protect our sovereignty our security and the lives about people he said So I'd like to point out that some of the bombs that had been lobbed As this report says they were lobbed over the border which is like... That has a very... Maybe that's And a British expression that doesn't translate well into my brain, but you know there's not like just someone lobbed one over the fence Well the report I have that's a British report. I think mine is from China Yeah and so it has a different slightly different twist to it because the Chinese are more

2:23:39 inclined to back Libya or Syria. What was once concern and speculation appears to be turning into reality, a third straight day of sporadic fire between Syria and Turkey is stoking fears of a regional conflict But that's something nobody wants, including those leading Syria's opposition fighters. We do not want Turkey to get into the war with Syria but we want humanitarian aid such as bread water food and medicine Thank God Turkey has helped us a lot On Wednesday Syrian troops fired a mortar bomb into Turkey

2:24:19 It landed in a residential district of the southeastern Turkish town of Akçakale. A woman and four children from the same family were killed, and at least eight other people wounded. In retaliation Turkey fired back at targets inside Syria. Syria apologized to Turkey for Wednesday's mortar attack saying such incidents would not be repeated But on Friday, another mortar landed inside Turkey from the Syrian side. And the exchanges have now continued for a third straight day. So here's the only problem John is that the mortars that have been landing in Turkey not all of which have exploded are NATO bombs The Syrian regime does not have NATO munitions

2:25:07 No, they have Russian munitions. Right so these bombs are clearly being lobbed over by the so-called rebels or Al Qaeda or whatever stupid name they have to get Turkey into the game Well, I think Turkey may be the one sending the bombs because they want to get in the game. Remember when they shot... When the Turkish jet flew over Syria and was gunned down? The Turks made a big fuss about it. Oh you're attacking us! Yeah well yeah your jet was over our airspace that's why and then they went back to do the drawing board says oh this is no good this is no one's gonna back us on this one so wait a minute wait a minute So they are actually

2:25:51 doing to their own people what they accuse the Assad regime of doing. They're blowing up their own people? I'm just saying, they are the ones who have NATO munitions as far as i know. They're part of NATO aren't they? Yes! What would these rebels be doing with NATO gear? Well that has been given to them by us. Nah, you all... meh. The more likely Who wants to get into a war and take over the place? You have to know that a lot of these people, who are now in Syria came from Libya. And Libya they definitely got NATO munitions there! Well whatever the case is who really wants to be in this war I think that if you notice most of their mortars have hit in the middle of nowhere I think it was an accident

2:26:37 that one of the things killed a woman and their kids. What? There was somebody in that place you idiot! I'll take that, yeah i'll take it well yes we know the turkey wants to be in because they have a very strategic benefit from this. I am still not thinking that we're going to have any real no-fly zone NATO action for awhile because this is just fine I think, you know, Lucifer Clinton loves this. Just let everyone fight and maybe we can get Lebanon involved? Let these guys all fight amongst themselves and we don't have to do anything! I think so far it's good on plan. Win-win! Yeah, I agree. Win win baby! Well that's not actually what she said... You know what she said

2:27:27 What did she say? It's almost too delicious to believe my friend Come on, man. You walked right into that one I do just expecting it Oh good good good I knew you had that clip lined up because if it was a real good clip of something That was meaningful instead of just a joke you would have played it on top of me instead of trying to set me Up right now. I know your you know all my tricks A very important report. I think we have discussed the law of the children, this is all part of the United Nations who want to take away parents' rights and it kind of comes out you've got Agenda 21 on one hand and maybe this plays right into the pedo-bear rings where whatever it is...we have to make laws for more reasons to take your children away from you

2:28:19 Delaware has become the first state to pass a controversial law that effectively outlaws the corporal discipline of children by their parents. Now, the bill redefines child abuse laws to include any act... What? ...that causes pain. General Bo Biden, son of Vice President Joe Biden of course. He says the old law needed to be changed because it had been difficult to prosecute cases where a child was too young to speak or otherwise nonverbal No spanking is what that means Yeah that's what it means yeah no spanking and then the kid can report you yeah Hey! Old man spanked me so I put a gun on him and said I'm turning you in punk

2:29:08 That's exactly how the kids gonna talk. And that's Joe Biden son. You think the kids will use this as leverage? Please! So it hasn't actually been passed yet, but I'm looking forward to that one But this is a real initiative This is a real United Nations... we remember when you read the what was it called The Law of the Children wasn't on what was called Yeah, we spent quite a bit of time on it. You know I can't remember what it's called But yeah, it's another United Nations piece of crap designed to ruin all civilization. Yeah, it's right like the food crap Let me just write some of the children is something you're writing some some yeah, something dumb

2:29:53 Rights of the child treaty. There you go. That's okay, by the way if you're a Muslim country Let's say I don't know Pakistan They have to put this in play rights of the children You can beat the crap out of them as your wife or a girl well if they deserve it yeah, well they always do Your worse than I am Rights of the child let me just see Let me see New World Order. I'm just looking at episode 410 410 is when we talked about it And yeah, the rights of the child. Wow! 40 shows ago? How early were we?!

2:30:30 40 shows ago. That's like 20 weeks early on the show and message And now Don Lemon so far ahead on some of these stories that it's like nobody even remember This is always a problem if you're if you're good visionary He gets so far ahead of the curve that by the time the curve comes around and is revealed No one remembers not that you ever did we're way on this like, you know twenty weeks ago So is that a good thing? It's like five months ago I don't think this is a good thing Well, we have no choice. That's what we do. So I have an end of show clip which is worth playing. I think we should be wrapping up. China investing in the US this year. We heard earlier that the Chinese were

2:31:19 Right, you know needling us about that. Yeah. We're investing in Africa were actually investing more in the United States So I thought it was interesting that they're investing in certain cities and the city they choose is like Wow They choose what and they're moving in The Chinese are gonna turn the United States into like another colony well regardless we're gonna have a road trip to that city To go on see when you pick up some cash From the giners. 10, 11 and 12 is coming up on Thursday we look forward to seeing you there in your support of the program of course our October 26th 5555 our fifth anniversary go to Dvorak dot org slash NA and I'll be back at home base Camp Mofo everybody so looking forward to that and bringing you another stellar episode of The Best Podcasts In The Universe coming to you from the town of Douche here in Washington in the District of Columbia hey in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry

2:32:15 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I reside. I'm John C. Dvorak We'll talk to you again on Thursday episode 451 right here on NO Agenda and a reminder No Agenda producer update coming up next right here on the stream Local American officials try to entice 150 visiting Chinese investors with details on logistics and other incentives in their area. This isn't New York or Los Angeles, though. It's Toledo a small industrial city of 300,000 people in the state of Ohio

2:32:53 This conference is the culmination of four visits to China by Toledo's mayor and his staff to cultivate interest in their city. When I went to China, there were cities that 15 or 20 years ago had 50 thousand people and now they got fifteen million so if you want to learn about economic development you go where economic development is occurring at an unnatural pace. The Great Recession devastated Toledo's economy, Bell has straightened out the city's once destitute finances now he says foreign investment especially from China is a key part of his strategy to create jobs Chinese developers bought one of Toledo's two downtown hotels that same company organized the recent conference and has set up an incubator to help Chinese companies explored the area

2:33:40 When we started the whole planning process, we never anticipated that we would have this much turnout. The hope is that connections made at conferences like these will one day blossom into concrete partnerships I didn't know Toledo, Ohio before but through the conference and experts we now think that it's a good place for investment. This is my first visit. I need to learn more about local U.S. laws and policies as well as investment conditions in Toledo." Now, last year Toledo had already secured a major Chinese investment in real estate there. A group known as Dashing Pacific purchased some prime riverfront real estate right in the middle of downtown Toledo where they plan to develop a multi-use complex that will include shops housing and office space all told that could bring in about 300 million dollars of investment and it could end up being one of the largest Chinese owned real estate developments in the United States

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