Episode 449 · Thursday, 4 October 2012

Deficit Pending

A coast-to-coast broadcast dissects the first presidential debate, the weaponization of bullying narratives, and the suspicious timing of a national peanut butter salmonella outbreak.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 449

About this episode

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak broadcast from Washington to Washington as the 2012 presidential race enters its final stretch. Following the first debate at the University of Denver, the hosts analyze Barack Obama’s lackluster performance against Mitt Romney and investigate claims of a hidden electronic device under the President’s jacket. The analysis extends to the exclusion of third-party candidates like Gary Johnson and the media's role in manufacturing a competitive horse race narrative.

Global tensions rise as the Organization of Islamic Cooperation pushes for international blasphemy laws following the Innocence of Muslims controversy. Economic instability deepens with the Iranian Rial losing forty percent of its value in a single week, while IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde offers a conflicting outlook on the American housing market. In the United States, the Food Safety Modernization Act faces scrutiny after a massive Sunland peanut butter salmonella recall coincides with a failure in the FDA registration system. Additional reports cover the Asymmetric Warfare Group radicalization guide, American Airlines seat sabotage suspicions, and a White House phishing attack during Cybersecurity Awareness Month.

Technical glitches and hotel Skype loops provide the backdrop for a series of distinctive moments, including Adam Curry’s attempt to teach a parrot the show's catchphrase. The hosts also examine the viral response of news anchor Jennifer Livingston to a viewer's email and the strange interaction between Hillary Clinton and Christina Aguilera at the World Food Program Awards. Executive Producers Adam Johnson and Matthias Person are knighted into the No Agenda Roundtable for their value-for-value support.


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CHAPTER 01 / 27 Discussion

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak Broadcast from Washington to Washington

Adam Curry broadcasts from the Capitol Skyline Hotel in Washington, D.C., while John C. Dvorak joins from his compound in Washington State, marking a "Washington to Washington" coast-to-coast episode. Curry explains his presence in the capital to support Miss Mickey at the eMERGE Art Fair. The hosts address potential technical issues and feedback loops inherent in streaming high-quality clips over Skype from a hotel environment.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· washington dc· washington state· emerge art fair· capitol skyline hotel· podcast history

00:00 these people are just human pain cushions for the united nations. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Thursday October 4th 2012 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 449-er! This is no agenda. Beaming live from coast to coast Washington to Washington From the District of Columbia in the morning everybody I am Adam Curry and from Washington State the Pacific Northwest compound I'm John C. Dvorak It is a first in podcast history my friends, a Washington to Washington coast to coast everybody! I'm here in DC and John you're up there in ST as in state and we're going to once again try to bring you another episode of The Best Podcast In The Universe

00:57 And let's begin with thanking our producers. Oh, okay Well I just wanted to say the reason I am here just so everyone knows Now John you're up in Washington State because you actually your family lives there and they like to see you from time to time? I Am here For the eMERGE Art Fair as Miss Mickey was expoing in Los Angeles just last week, this week she is here and of course I am supporting her for that. It is in the... what's it? The Skyline...the Capitol Skyline Hotel And it's going to be on going on for a couple days here. So I'm once again set up in a hotel, well actually the last time was at friends now we're in a hotel room so take all of the technical issues with a little bit of love if you don't mind. Should be okay since you couldn't download the clips Yeah well I've done a couple things since our kind of debacle the last time I've stepped down

01:59 Streaming quality because of course, you know We're not just doing a live Skype conversation we're playing clips people have to understand that when you set this up and You actually want to be able to have a Skype conversation with someone there's more to it Particularly when I'm playing clips that I want you to hear Because that means there's going to be some kind of feedback loop where you have to hear the mix but not yourself etc. And then we're streaming and a lot of stuff going on so that is well We've kind of perfected the whole the whole thing over the past what almost five years as our anniversary is coming up What were 26 October 20? I keep forgetting honey, you know what bothers me what oh

CHAPTER 02 / 27 Discussion

Trade Show Pens and the Decline of Handwriting

John C. Dvorak complains about the poor quality of promotional pens collected from trade shows, noting that most fail to write shortly after acquisition. Adam Curry admits he rarely uses writing utensils anymore, relying instead on digital outliners and memory. The discussion highlights a generational shift away from doodling and manual note-taking, with handwriting now largely reserved for household grocery lists.

trade shows· pens· handwriting· grocery lists· doodling· outliner software

02:45 You go to these conventions, you go to these trade shows and pick up lots of pens. And within weeks these pen stop working! I'm going through pens right now because i got a little note pad in my...I forgot if it was the red book or the red books pack somewhere. So im gonna write stuff down and I've got a pile of pens there's probably 100 pens here and none of them write Really? Have you ever noticed this? These pens that they give away are garbage. I gotta be honest I really don't use Writing utensils very much anymore. I know this is unbelievable yeah, and I know it's terribly kind of like nouveau of me But now the only thing we use a writing implement for

03:30 At home is for like the you know, the grocery list we have a little pad and we just write stuff on it Like oh I need this. We need this but otherwise, I don't think I actually use a pen anymore at all I don't have one even for the show here. I'm not doodling. I'm not doing anything Um, um, I don't know maybe that's just my generation You don't doodle? I don't doodle right down. I know you said what the work says something funny to me write this down and and then I can have a retort. You don't do that? No, no! I have an outliner for that... And by the way, I just remember the funny stuff. I don't need to write it down. I'm pretty good that way And John, happy National Bullying Prevention Awareness Month to you my friend. Yeah yeah this is bully uh... No no you gotta say it with me national bullying prevention awareness month. National Bullying Prevention Awareness Month so in other words your supposed to be aware of what? Of bullying! That it's going on everywhere its rampant and happening. No no no it's awareness of bullying prevention you say

CHAPTER 03 / 27 Discussion

Jennifer Livingston, National Bullying Prevention Awareness Month, and Free Speech

The hosts deconstruct a viral video featuring WKBT news anchor Jennifer Livingston responding to an email criticizing her weight during National Bullying Prevention Awareness Month. They argue that Livingston used her "bully pulpit" to publicly shame a private critic, framing the event as a manufactured talking point to support legislation limiting free speech. Adam Curry suggests that labeling the internet as a "weapon" and schools as "battlegrounds" is a precursor to increased internet regulation and the erosion of First Amendment rights.

jennifer livingston· wkbt· national bullying prevention awareness month· bullying· free speech· internet freedom· hillary clinton

04:33 So this is a dude so you're not aware of bullying your rule aware of the prevention. Oh, this is a good point Well, this is from the who does this? This is the national trial child trauma Trump I can't even talk anymore in support of Bullying Prevention Awareness Month You're right It is literally awareness of bullying prevention and non of bullying itself The National Child Traumatic Stress Network whoa is providing resources for families, teens, educators clinicians mental health professionals and law enforcement personnel on how to recognize deal with and prevent bullying.

05:11 And of course you sent out a wonderful newsletter which for those of you who are not subscribed in the show notes on every single episode of The No Agenda podcast there is a link to sign up for the newsletter as well. I think we even have an RSS feed link if you want to get it that way although, we kind of recommend getting the email version and you wrote about this This rather interesting YouTube video which without a doubt went viral I think after Ellen tweeted or tweeted it or mentioned it on her show. CNN put it on their homepage Oh really? Okay so everyone's all over this and of course these things always seem to happen in conjunction with the month that is being honored, I'm always amazed by how this works

05:54 What a coincidence. Now, do we want to play some of this clip for people who have not seen it or maybe just so we can stop it and deconstruct it so people understand how this is just the setup to limiting your free speech? Well yes I'd like to hear the thing now that why about point out a couple things in advance of listening which are pointed out in the newsletter that I wrote a little essay about this particular clip First of all, this woman was very I thought hypersensitive to an email that was just some bonehead. Yeah we get these things all the time people calling it you know the show is better when you talked about wine and food You don't... hey ever hear a post-production? Don't you know how to make levels even?! So you have those guys and so are they bullies because they're critical? I don't know

06:47 So this guy writes in saying that she's a little overweight and she should think about it. She gets all bent out of shape, she becomes the bully! Yeah! This guy sends an individual note to her... through channels and she blast this guy on a podium of the public podium, a bully pulpit as it were. And nobody calls her on that fact that she's now the bully. And by the way why is it called a bully pulpit? Is that just coincidence we're using this word in this case? No its exactly for that reason because you are up there and have audience then you can really lambaste people Love it You can be a bully

07:25 Well, here's a... we'll just stop this clip throughout because there are number of things that crop up. But first of all she reads the actual letter which I'm like ehh..I mean I have definitely received worse every day! You for sure? Every day i get it worse! I want to take a moment to address the situation that has become a talking point in this community over the past weekend especially on Facebook Now let's just point out that a talking point is exactly what this is and she's not even lying here It's a talking point There's a memo saying hey It is National Bullying Prevention Awareness Month. Here's what you gotta do! That centers around me. On Friday I received the following email from a lacrosse man with the subject line, Community Responsibility and it reads as follows... Hi Jennifer, it's unusual that I see your morning show but I did so for very short time today

08:14 I was surprised indeed to witness that your physical condition hasn't improved for many years Surely you don't consider yourself a suitable example for this community's young people girls in particular Obesity is one of the worst choices. A person can make and one of the most dangerous habits to maintain now just hearing this alone I don't believe a human being wrote this at I mean, of course a human being wrote it but this is not This is not someone saying, hey you're fat get off the air. Right and generally speaking that's what they'd say yeah I mean but these words are so carefully chosen very engineered yes i leave you this note hoping that you'll reconsider your responsibility as a local public personality to present and promote a healthy lifestyle

09:04 I don't understand. Who would... First of all, this would just go like okay put on spam list delete and you know i wouldn't even look at that anymore And she gets all bent out of shape about this, which of course is the setup to well some of the language she uses is extremely offensive. Now those of us in the media we get a healthy dose of critiques from our viewers throughout the year and we realize that it comes with having a job in the public eye but this email was more than that. Well I tried my best to laugh off the very hurtful attack on my appearance. How's that very hurtful?

09:43 It didn't even say fat. I read it and read it, I didn't get any...I don't know what she's talking about. It didn't say you're fat! Just said, you know hey obesity is a- Yeah it's not like your fat and ugly get off the air. You suck! No! Which is the kind of notes that most people would get. Yes yeah exactly you know the real kind My colleagues could not do the same especially my husband our 6 & 10 anchor Mike Thompson Now so this is like ya'know I don't know man they're like her husbands on me? So that right there was just a plug Exactly He was just promoting my husband That's right go watch his show he's good And by the way you can find him every Saturday at Laugh Left Chuck Chucks

10:18 You know what I mean? It's just like a commercial. Mike posted this email on his WKBT Facebook page and what happened next has been truly inspiring. Inspiring, I tell you! And hundreds of people have taken the time out of their day to not only lift my spirits but take a stand that attacks like this are not okay An attack like this is not okay What attack?! Did the email jump out and stick a knife in her? This is not an attack lady. I'm sorry, it's just not an attack Now we're gonna have more on that in just a second but first the truth is I am overweight You could call me fat And yes But no one called you fat but okay Even obese on a doctors chart Nobody calls her fat or obese No he... The guy said obesity is unhealthy choice

11:13 He didn't even call her obese per se. But okay, but what she's about to say next is what really irked me. To the person who wrote me that letter do you think I don't know that? That your cruel words are pointing out something that I don't see? They're so cruel! Now here, I'll tell ya what miss come read my inbox and i'l show you cruel this is nothing But of course, you know we're not in the media like she is John. We're just in the podcast You don't know me you are not a friend of mine? You are not a part of my family and you have admitted that you don't watch this show so you know nothing about me Was she Marshall McLuhan into Rudy Allen movie Annie Hall She sounds more like see that was extremely ghetto as far as I'm concerned. You don't know me You ain't no friend to meet you don't watch my show

12:03 That was ghetto man. That was completely like more you know like Like one of the daytime shows were they beating each other over the head and pulling their weaves are springer Springer totally springer all right, but what you see on the outside And I am much more than a number on a scale And here is where I want all of us to learn something from this. Okay, but here comes the egregious part if you didn't already know October is National Anti-Bullying Month and this

12:39 Is a problem by the way, I said she's wrong. It's not anti-bullying month No, you're correct and died bullying prevention. Oh, it is not an time huge difference Hello There's no anti at all the and the word anti is not even in there its national bullying prevention awareness month Let's listen again from this if you didn't already know October is National Anti Bullying Month? No, it's not Please everyone write her a note and tell her that she's wrong. It is National Bullying Prevention Awareness Month! And this is a problem that is growing every day in our schools around the internet. Here it comes... It is a major issue in the lives of young people today, and as the mother of three young girls, it scares me to death. I'm scared!! I'M SCARED!!! Now I am a grown woman, and luckily for me, I have very thick skin literally, as that email pointed out, and otherwise. She's not!

13:33 Yeah, really. And that man's words mean nothing to me. Really? Oh right it only meant she was going to do an hour on it. An hour segment with her husband at 6 and 10 everybody! What really angers me about this is there are children who don't know better who get emails as critical as the one I received or in many cases even worse each and every day Tell him to show them how to delete email and put people on his spam list. The internet has become a weapon There we go, that's what I was waiting for Thank you very much the Internet has become a weapon John A weapon And these words are dangerous Our schools have become a battleground And our school is a battle ground

14:20 So, this is... now along with the actually another story comes along with this because this of course is all part of internet freedom. And you're going to see this coming in legislation Hillary Clinton's a big part of this Internet Freedom which of course equates into internet legislation it about what you can and cannot say and what is freedom of speech and this is being restricted So, in this case this woman goes off and there's another two minutes of it. It is all the same stuff so I don't think we need to listen to it She goes off about someone saying hey you know your obesity is a choice didn't call her fat didn't even call her obese per se but was so hurtful apparently and these are weapons and this happens at schools and therefore that's a battleground But I want you to know that here

CHAPTER 04 / 27 Discussion

Organization of Islamic Cooperation and Global Blasphemy Laws

The Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) is calling for international laws to ban "hate speech" and blasphemy against the Prophet Muhammad following the "Innocence of Muslims" film controversy. The hosts discuss how Western leaders like President Obama and Hillary Clinton are increasingly entertaining these restrictions on free speech. They also note the irony of the OIC's "religious tolerance" map, which explicitly blocks India from membership.

organization of islamic cooperation· oic· blasphemy laws· free speech· prophet muhammad· india· united nations

15:11 This is a report from AP. This is the head of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation did an interview with Associated Press about how people in general speak about the Prophet Muhammad and this, of course, as in relation to the movie The Innocence Of Muslims Right. And they are saying this... Nobody's seen So, this is the OIC which I believe it also one of those unnamed defendants in the whole Muslim Brotherhood trial from a couple years ago so they want this to stop that you cannot speak poorly of the Prophet Muhammad quote here from the article we're not saying stop free speech We are saying stop hate speech

16:09 And this is being taken seriously by people. If you listen to what President Obama and Secretary Hillary Clinton are saying, they're going along these lines of saying hey free speech is great but we don't talk down about any religion. Well yes we do and yes we should be able too but this is slowly being Inch by inch is being pushed back and this is happening all over the place right in front of your eyes. And there are actual laws on the books now, in several states that forbid this free speech and we have to be very wary of it. Well its even a movement to get international...have the UN pass an international law banning blasphemy

16:57 Yeah, we've talked about this. Yeah there This is this is the part of the internet freedom yeah blasphemy now What exactly is the definition of blasphemy and and when does that become illegal? And is it even illegal in in any part a boy's it illegal. It's not illegal in the u.s.. Is it No, but it's illegal in Pakistan. Okay? And it's illegal in most Muslim countries In fact, it's punishable by death Mm-hmm right let's take a look at the dictionary definition okay the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things and It can also be profane talk

17:37 Yeah, cussing would be depending. But if you use certain kinds of combination swear words is bad I suppose if you went past a mosque technically in some part of the Middle East and said boy that's an ugly mosque That would probably qualify Give that thing some paint to make a architectural criticism here's what this guy is that he shunned goal loses the issue in gulug and as the head of the uh... organization of islamic corporation who have quite a big uh... outfit here in united states if the western world fails to understand the sensitivity of the muslim world then we are in trouble by the way i think it's availed threat who said that this is the the head i guess that's the

18:32 the chairman or whatever of the Organization of Islamic cooperation these guys are all you know they're here in Washington The OIC. The OIC is a very big organization, and they are In fact let me see where they are organization Of so I see we've talked about them before yeah It's been awhile the Islamic cooperation And you know some but no before Associated press to pick this up and really not even challenge it just saying okay. All right well there you go Just uh, you know if more and this is very funny talking about religious You gotta go the wiki page on this thing talk about religious tolerance They have a world map with the member states Yeah, yeah observer States and the blocked states you cannot be a member

19:30 I want to stay of course is India. Right, they can't be a member? They're not allowed? They're blocked! Blocked! Blocked!! No service for you?! NO SERVICE FOR YOU!!! Get out! You can't be a member! The whole country's evil! That's funny... that is cool... oh well It is quite humorous So of course none of this came up in the debate last night which we should probably talk about uh... but wait before we do that and what when we think the producers first businessman has to go through this year good idea who would have done it better for a producer of thank goodness where we had possibly three i think in this possibly because of the fantastic newsletter

CHAPTER 05 / 27 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and Value-for-Value Donations

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak acknowledge their executive and associate executive producers for episode 449, including Adam Johnson, Matthias Person, Frank Ajinsat, and Rick Cable. The segment details the "value-for-value" model, where listeners donate specific amounts to earn credits, "karma," or "knighthoods" within the No Agenda community. Technical difficulties with Skype's duplexing and connection limits are briefly addressed during the donor read.

adam johnson· matthias person· frank ajinsat· rick cable· value-for-value· knighthood· donation

20:11 Or because of that great show. I think just the great show we had last time, i think it's a combo Yeah, it has to be the newsletter unless they want us to do crappy shows more often Then yay hay in response to one of the emails Yay hey for the newsletter I'd say Some guy says, eh that thing sucked It was very hurtful letter by the way Oh I got a lot of hurtful letters I got a lot of hurtful letters This show sucked. It was stunk! It was why don't you do a better job? And you said I'd rather go on vacation when i'm on the road Yeah, well didn't you think that was an appropriate response? Yeah it was a quick...quick-it was actually a screw you response but it was good Well I've learned from the best Johnson and Plymouth Minnesota will be one of our exec we have one two three executive producers and one two three associate executive producers for today's show

21:01 449 Adam Johnson in Plymouth, Minnesota 43167. Good morning John and Adam thank you for everything that you do the donation should finish off my knighthood bring me up to $1,004.12 which is today's date! And my 30th birthday it is funny this 10-4-12 and that was creative and my thirtieth birthday in addition to the donation a birthday present to myself is me traveling to get Mo Nation sushi over my birthday so some travel karma would be Appreciate it. Hopefully I have access to some internet over there so I can keep up with the show and all the crazy things going on Wow, that's that's kind of cool. He says and sake You have to put down the list now Okay, geishas and sake you know when you say your thing? Yeah Thanks again, and he's got all those numbers okay So hold on a second we just put that down there get geishas and sake

21:54 It's a good one. Yeah, but how cool is it that we have listeners that can give themselves a present of going to get Monation sushi for their birthday? Yeah! That's not bad let me hand out the karma here. Here we go. You've got karma nice Thank you so much that support is appreciated Then we have Matthias Person yeah, I think it's my yes. Yes, I think it is Matias T. Osceous for 2033 he wants some karma okay? You've got karma Then we have Frank as in start from Armandale Victoria Canada 333 hello John and seems like a good time to get my knighthood having done a couple of AEP donations and synergies inserts on my county

22:54 Let's see, seeing you both will be suffering through the amusing choice of leader over the free world for the next four years. Of course he is in Canada. Will hopefully enable you both to just get by a little longer hope the amazing work... Thank or keep up with the amazing work because it doesn't seem likely that real media has the attention span to focus on anything meaningful for more than about two minutes unless it's Kate's boobies of course. Now officially member of The Roundtable and props if you can pronounce my surname correctly I would say it's Ajin Xot. Okay, here is a couple of things... When i see a guy challenge me to do the names, I do some research There was no research on this name The best somebody came up with that its an English version of an old Hebrew name and he surmises as possibly pronounced Azin-Shtart

23:45 really but this could be a lot of our honor and i don't i don't see that's what i would pronounce it but they say something like started is what you really want to say Anyway, but it will he'll says these easy yucking it up right now Yeah, and I was actually in Melbourne Australia and I'll get to another not only yeah. I'll get to pronounce his last name Canada Paul Sinkowski there when you ski Vermont 309 77 John and Adam trying to get my knighthood finished by this end of the show Apparently she's he didn't make it according to our accounting He's gonna have to do this later. I think he's five bucks short

24:23 a note. Yeah, Rick Cable Paul will figure this out you can be Sunday Sunday is good day Rick cable Modesto California $300 The find it classifieds calm guy I've been so busy only for the last month that have fallen behind on my sleep and listening to the greatest podcast in the universe. I'm going to get caught up today on your podcast because sleep can wait Thanks for the link to my site on the show notes for the last executive producer credit. I guess we'll do that again Yep, how about some karma for their website and two to they head for the bad guys in Libya? No All right here We go with some karma You've got karma and for the guys in Libya Is he in Toronto Ontario 259 another associate executive producer? My two cents on the issue is that it's a very good idea to get caught up on past episodes for two reasons One there are all kinds of he's actually not caught up in the newsletter because two weeks ago for that one reason they're all kinds of running jokes and memes in this show like that a newbie like me might miss

25:29 And two, there's some real gold in there even as the chatter on the interwebs deconstruction or Adams in Yemen meme and episode 259 which is why you donated that amount of money. That made me laugh until I cried! I don't even remember that gag Promote the no agenda nation archive more. It's awesome D douching and karma is what he's looking for bitches He said yeah, and I would also like to point out we have the all shows dot na show notes calm all shows dot na show notes calm And that also leads to an entire archive and of course you can find that on no agenda nation as well oops

26:11 Sorry, that wasn't for you Sizzy. Sorry You've been D douched You've got karma you should move the douchebag button away from the de-douching button. Yeah, that's a good point I shall do that right after the show i'm sorry no don't bother yeah it's one of those things so uh... i'm just going to reconnect real quick hey we want to thank all these executive and associate executive producers for contributing to show 449 and wanna thank them remind people go to norjantheshow dot com norjannation dot com there is donate buttons on both those sites also channeldivorac.com slash

26:51 NA and Dvorak.org slash NA which is our main donation page, which tends to be more up-to-date than anything else We really appreciate the continued support. Yeah, and this is actually a very good showing we highly appreciate that and of course these are actual credits just like the ones you get in Hollywood A big difference is of course if you need to have someone who's doing production in Hollywood vouch for your executive producer or associate executive producer credit You can never find them again so unlike those pussies we actually will vouch for you John I'm just going to disconnect from you real quick and reconnect while I tell everyone else that you can go out

27:27 our formula please. Our formula is this we go out, we hit people in the mouth. Come on little kid! Shut up Ray! There we go There we go. Yeah, we were just went in one of those simplex modes This is uh... when i can you know would just deal with it for what it is but that this election is reconnected on and off I think a lot of these things are time constrain nowadays what do mean the time constraint yeah they go ahead and have been out for twenty minutes yes screw up screw-up a little bit they've been talking too long on our free connection where microsoft we don't need to be paying for your connection she had hands

CHAPTER 06 / 27 Discussion

First 2012 Presidential Debate Analysis and Jim Lehrer's Moderation

The hosts analyze the first 2012 presidential debate between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney at the University of Denver, suggesting the media narrative required a "horse race" to maintain interest. They criticize Jim Lehrer's moderation, noting he lost control of the candidates early in the broadcast. Adam Curry observes that Obama appeared to be on "autopilot," even explaining Romney's positions for him, leading to a perceived victory for Romney.

barack obama· mitt romney· jim lehrer· 2012 presidential debate· university of denver· twitter· media consulting

28:17 So that's exactly the way they talk. That's exactly it wait no actually, it's like Developers developers they're not developers cut him off. That's probably how it goes all right the debate yeah so Wow well let's start off at the beginning okay Can I just give you my? Overall assessment and then you can run through because I have no clips, and I'm dying to hear what you think can I just give you my Curry Dvorak, Media Consulting Group analysis. This was perfectly timed this is exactly what we needed we had Romney apparently in the media 10 12 I think it was 300 points behind Obama and we still have four weeks to go I mean an incredible 30 days to go! We have to have a horse race here ladies and gentlemen so i think they literally went to Obama's team and said you gotta throw the match son

29:14 You gotta throw it, because we need to bring this thing tight. We got commercials, we got people that keep interested! And I think they worked out beautifully. They did a great job. Yeah...I think a lot of people are saying that and I think Obama's campaign didn't have to be told anything because they said somebody went up and said you know all the money we've been getting? Now that were leading we're not get any money anymore. Do you want to get money?! Ohhhh....that's a good way to look at it too. Because he was floundering so now he needed more money and then you do that Well, yeah Romney was floundering and then so I mean I'm sorry People stop giving Obama money right because once he's up we're gonna give him monies. He's a shoo-in right? That's very possible

30:00 So whatever the case, Obama crapped out. He did a terrible job and he got beaten on every point but I think the guy who really lost the debate though was Jim Lehrer. Oh wow! He lost it from the get-go In fact, Jim Lehrer...I heard him talking during the debate just like i hear that parrot in the background when you're talking That was about all you could hear of the guy Yeah no he's always going uh uh He's trying to get a word in edgewise these two guys are like machines. You know what I found very interesting Now we were in the hotel here last night now both Mickey and I actually little bit under the weather Mickey's Actually quite ill from just Los Angeles air, I guess God knows what's going on there So we're in bed We're kind of like you know shivering kind not feeling well the debates on much later here 930 or nine o'clock

30:51 And so we're watching, I'm like...I'm just gonna follow Twitter and just follow the hashtag you know what is it debate or debates. What was fascinating to me is people who were clearly for Romney were surprised they're like wow yeah hey he's doing good ah oh Romney is he's rocking oh and then the Obama supporters they were just like oh Romney's rich Show him Bin Laden's skull, man! You know they were just like and he must be wearing his magic underwear. It was just it was like no one had any anything to say that had any substance on either side I think this was a perfect example of confusing the audience great job on doing that by the way

31:42 Well, so we have a couple of things I ran into that are interesting. I couldn't find the one clip which it's buried in a long clip but I didn't have time to listen for another hour where Romney tells one of his personal anecdotes where a person comes up to him and calls him... The way he says it is this person comes up to me and says Ann, I've got a real problem here with my daughter blah blah blah Apparently this was somebody that went up to Ann, not him. He couldn't tell the story right! That clip is out there for people look for it I'm surprised everyone didn't jump on that one but at the very beginning Jim Lehrer...I swear to God i was watching this and you can hear in the clip did Lehrer forget Romney's name? he's inviting both of them up they're both coming out the same time and he for some reason freezes

32:39 There is a noise exception right now though, as we welcome President Obama and Governor Romney. That's a brain freeze man! When am I gonna calm down? And the other thing is what is this no-noise? Nobody was allowed to laugh, nobody was allowed to applaud it was just crap. So Obama starts his thing off early and tries to get kind of a laugh With this no left for Obama clip and he and it bombs and it turns the mood of the debate into just a depressing boring piece of crap. Well, this is I would say that this is the mistake That was made And well, I'll give you my analysis after we play this if you didn't hear this This was indeed this set the mood from the get-go and right at the top. I'm like okay It's all over

33:32 Well, thank you very much Jim for this opportunity. I want to thank Governor Romney and the University of Denver for your hospitality. There are a lot of points that I want to make tonight but the most important one is that 20 years ago I became the luckiest man on earth because Michelle Obama agreed to marry me and so I just wanna wish sweetie you happy anniversary and let you know that a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people Four years ago we went through. Okay, so here's what happened on this Now Obama it can really deliver a line you write the lines for him We've seen that the White House Correspondents dinner He's great and he can entertain a room in fact He can even overdo it a little bit when he has too much written for him This is an old line. He's been using this married up thing. We've been playing the clip all

34:24 time and time again on the show he uses all the time I'm so lucky Michelle so smart he married she married me i'm so dumb we are in the media was blanketed that this was there at this is whoever set us up for myself stupid unless of course it was meant to be uh... if the media was blanketed with all this their anniversary and then when Larry says We're not going to laugh, we're not going to cheer. We are going to be really quiet and right off the bat when were talking about the first question is a very serious question he takes 20 seconds to go like oh it's my twentieth anniversary that she was so smart He could have known this was gonna fall flat and then Romney picks it up later

35:07 And hammers it home by saying, well too bad you're going to have to celebrate your wedding anniversary with me. This was... John if we had sat down and said let's write this we could not have done better! This was perfect! Yes I agree actually Romney's comeback was good and it didn't need a big laugh It was just kind of snide and it personalized him a little bit But the whole thing this whole no noise deal This is no good. No, Obama needs it! What's the point of having an audience if the audience can't respond? There is no point... What's the point?! There is no point... Why are they there!? You can't hear me, can you? I thought I could hear your mumbling something. I keep saying there is no point and uh.. It's exactly what Obama needs IS an audience this is how he thrives on this

35:59 He really, at a certain point he was on autopilot man. He was like fair shot, fair chance paid your fair share. At the certain point he was explaining Romney's position! He was explaining how Romneycare worked. Are you insane? In a debate, you don't explain how the other guy's position works! That was... I mean this is elementary he would have failed debate class with this This was thrown plain and simple And by the way, the chatroom is right They think we actually did write this last night and I think we should cop to it So To make the thing more ludicrous

36:45 Here is lair trying to get control of the thing after he's lost can he loses control right away? Yeah and here's layer pushed aside this was the way that they actually went most of the time but we can afford to do a little bit more to make sure not blown up the deficit is exactly what the president began this segment so i think i get the last week at the end of the day so i don't think you're going to get the first part of it uh... yes well-prepared he gets the first for the second i get the last word that's all right hopefully despite his current i think there are many people who are going to let me repeat let me repeat what i said i'm not in favor of a five trillion dollar tax cut that's not my plan

37:21 My plan is not to put in place- So I was looking on Twitter when this happened, and here's what people were tweeting and retweeting. Ugh! Jim, I have money, I get to talk shut up! That has nothing to do with it! It's just poorly moderated he just let these guys walk all over his head! I have one in here somewhere that uh... where these going on they're going on and you can hear Layer in the background trying to interrupt. Yeah talking! You keep hearing ugh It's funny because I was like, wow it's just like he is on Skype. Like John and I because you know they don't hear him Yeah well actually I'm noticing that we are on... This is a dude.. They've...I think this part of the new Skype I think they duplex these calls Because you're right! And cause when you were talking in a minute ago and I decided to just make noise and cut you out for about uh just couple milliseconds That's okay so this may be the Romney Obama back-and-forth clip? I am presuming that will be it

CHAPTER 07 / 27 Discussion

Obama's Debate Performance and Alleged Electronic Devices

Adam Curry claims to have seen a cigarette-pack-sized object underneath President Obama's jacket during the post-debate family greetings, speculating it could be a radio receiver or battery pack. This observation mirrors past conspiracy theories regarding George W. Bush wearing a similar device during debates. The hosts discuss the possibility of candidates using ear implants or hidden transmitters to receive coaching from advisors in real-time.

barack obama· michelle obama· debate performance· electronic receiver· neurotechnology· george w. bush

38:21 This could be played with a lot of people, but it's just not the case. Look I got five boys...I'm used to people saying something that is not always true but just keep on repeating it and ultimately hoping I'll believe it But tha-that is not the case alright? I will NOT reduce the taxes paid by high income Americans And number three, I will NOT under any circumstances raise taxes on middle income families! I will lower taxes on middle income families Now you cite a study There's six other studies that looked at the study you described and say it's completely wrong. I saw a study that came out today that said you're gonna raise taxes Is this the clip because it doesn't sound like it? Yeah, I don't think so yeah well So I think we can fairly Fairly well assess unless you have more clips that this was you got to play the one Oh which one back to the matter

39:12 Yeah, yeah I actually woke Mickey up when I heard that but the fact of the matter is We use the same advisors and they say it's the same plan. Yeah It's the same plan come on fact to the matter fact fact fact And everybody of course let it play there's two of them Wow I'm sorry didn't even realize there was too here we go But the fact of the matter is we use the same advisors and if they say it's the same plane oh The fact of the matter is that when Obamacare is fully implemented... And that's not edited? No, no. That was- those are two different clips from two different parts of his speech but there were two other ones I couldn't catch! Yeah he was resorting to stuff and do you remember that debate when George W Bush had a receiver

40:07 Like a receiving radio pack underneath his jacket Obama had one on too. I saw it at the very end Yes, sir. Yep now. I haven't had time you know of course I don't have my DVR here etc But you know at the end and the families come up and everyone's he'll hug in they're all pretending to like each other You know like how like the wrestlers do at the end of the match like hey man who I love you, man Yeah, whatever Then, by the way how pissed off did Michelle look? Wow she looked really pissed off. And then I saw Obama walking away and right there kind of to the left of his shoulder blades I saw almost like a cigarette pack sized something underneath his jacket Well that would make sense If for what?!

40:56 It doesn't. Well, I mean it would be the same thing to have some advisors that like Bush Yeah To put this thing in him and have a thing in his ear, an inner plant you know a deep receiver which would explain to me why Obama did so poorly But it makes no sense to me because if your going to put uh... an implant, an ear implant on somebody so they can hear you Can't you just put the receiver in his pocket or on his belt? Why does he has to be between his shoulder blades That makes no sense to me Actually, that's a good point. Right? But I clearly saw it. Maybe it was his battery pack, that's possible Just to keep him charged but there was something underneath his jacket How is this for an idea? The transmitter of these devices which transmit wirelessly really have a very short slow range and you can't put in your pocket It's too far away from the receiver Okay thats possible

41:57 Let me see Obama wearing receipt. I'm just see if anyone else found maybe it was just his cigarettes man Maybe he hasn't stopped smoking, maybe Just like I don't want Michelle to see a man. I got him hit between my shoulder blades I Don't know someone will have to look this up because I saw it clearly and I was like oh my god He's got one of those things that there was a lot flatter than the one that Bush had with that we saw bush have on Neurotechnology. Well, I mean it was pathetic if that's what they got going on because it was just so visible Anyway, I would like to remind people That there are not just two parties in these United States In fact, I have the list here John of third party and independent candidates And I thought I'd just rush down the names of the parties How many independent or third parties can you name?

CHAPTER 08 / 27 Discussion

Third-Party Candidates and Gary Johnson's Media Presence

The hosts list various third-party organizations, including the Libertarian, Green, and Constitution parties, noting their exclusion from the Commission on Presidential Debates. A clip of Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson is played, where he argues that voting for a candidate one doesn't believe in is the only "wasted vote." Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak critique Johnson's vocal delivery, suggesting he sounds "wasted" during his media appearances.

gary johnson· libertarian party· green party· constitution party· presidential debates· ross perot· third-party candidates

42:53 Can only name maybe ten, but there's probably really fifty about ten is pretty good No I'd probably don't have more than 10 myself But the ones that are serious as in you know organized and and have been raising funds And who of course are not invited onto the into the debates because this is a rigged system rigged by What do they call it? It's the committee for the presidential debates What do these guys actually pay for the debates? How does that work? I don't know. It's a scam. Well, this is the collusion both parties of the Republicans and the Democrats have this committee The committee that they started off said this debate is sponsored by the election committee So sponsored by in the words of NPR PBS Of course means they paid for it and they only invite these two candidates except in I guess 92 when Ross Perot was really kicking it and he had you know arguably He was polling at

43:51 15 or almost 20 percent, they had to invite him into the debate. Of course that was probably a setup and we weren't doing the show at the time, we would have analyzed it. But people don't... I mean in Europe? I asked people said do you know that you can vote for many other parties to go no what are you talking about You only have Republicans or Democrats right said No They don't even know this John! People in our own country Don't Know That We Have America's Independent Party American Third Position Party The Constitution Party The Green Party Justice Party, the Libertarian Party. The Objectivist Party! That's one for me I'm liking this I gotta check those guys out. The party of Socialism and Liberation Peace and Freedom Party that's Roseanne Barrs' party. The Prohibition Party, the Reform Party USA

44:41 Socialist Party USA, Socialist Equality Party, Socialist Workers' Party and then you have a whole bunch of independents. And I would like to play a clip from Gary Johnson who is out... You okay? Yeah, I've just got a sneeze thing there. Alright here's a clip from Gary Johnson who... well you listen and i'll tell you what I think By the way here is a comment via Twitter Gary Johnson writes one viewer Is this election cycle Ross Perot? He'll help get Obama get a second term What do you think? Well in four states they have actually put this to the question In New Mexico and in Colorado I take more votes away from Obama

45:31 In North Carolina and Michigan, I take more votes away from Romney. I'll just say that I think a wasted vote is voting for somebody you don't believe in. That's a wasted vote And I want to make a pitch here this morning. I want to make a pitch that everybody go out and waste their vote on me, Gary Johnson... ...and you know what? I'm the next President of the United States! Based on my resume there is nothing to suggest that not only can i do this job but that I would do really good job at it." Now was just me or did he sound actually wasted

46:07 He really did. He always sounds a little wasted he really sounded a bit wasted and like okay I thought Jim Lerner sounded Wasted on the debate now, Jim Jim is gonna get a lot of criticism from his From his peers is you know Anderson Cooper? Of course will criticize him There was one thing that I wanted to say as it relates to this, because of course this whole... It was rather boring. You're going to do this? No I'm not! I'm gonna do this, this and that. I don't think many people really were that interested in this. I was looking for, you know, hey man, don't drone me. Don't lock me up. All the kinds of things that are really important to us like let's quit bombing brown people who live in the sand. Stuff like that

CHAPTER 09 / 27 Discussion

MassHealth Estate Recovery and Healthcare Scams

A C-SPAN caller describes how MassHealth placed a claim on his deceased father's estate, including his home and stocks, to recover healthcare costs. The hosts criticize Boston Herald reporter Christine McConville for her lack of knowledge regarding "estate recovery" laws, which allow the government to seize assets from members over age 55. They warn listeners that similar rules exist in other states, such as Medi-Cal in California, often catching families off guard during probate.

masshealth· medicare· medicaid· estate recovery· boston herald· christine mcconville· healthcare fraud

46:59 There was nothing. Well, there was nothing at all! It was supposed to be a... Don't forget this the theme of this one was supposed to be domestic policy which again where was the talk about spying? No not... Please please DHS please none of that none of that and there was a little bit of jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs Just want to let you know that I actually found it and put it on the mobile rig. But there was a lot of talk about Obamacare, Romneycare and the back-and-forth at this point... And you know what? You were watching CNN and I was watching little squiggly lines which is really cool! It's like being on drugs and they have this little line that goes up for men or women if they like it or don't like it. I'm just going out zoning out on that.

47:52 But woe is me, my friend if Romney gets in and he implements Romneycare. I have a clip here from C-SPAN which was brought to my attention by Baroness Maggie. Remember Maggie in Virginia who lent us the RV? So this is a, now this is C-SPAN. This is the call in show that none of our producers ever feel like calling on where they can get all this great stuff going and In The Morning's et cetera so they never do that and they have on Christine McConville and she is the her beat at The Boston Herald is apparently Obamacare or healthcare in general And this question comes in

48:34 Which I'm going to play for you and she has no, she's a bumbling idiot. She has no clue The whole interview is sad that they even put her on She had no business being there and you should watch this as linked in the show notes at 449 dot NA show notes calm You should watch it just to see how uninformed and stupid the media really are And this woman writes about health care and then we looked up what is mentioned here this is remember now Romney care is in Massachusetts it's uh... in fact relatively similar to Obamacare but listen to what this guy says and then I've got the relevant legislation here for you uh... i think there's another way that they're getting revenue from this which a lot of people don't know about and it happened to my father he was elderly yet had injury and it was on health um... methyl for short period of time and he had money in the stock market they didn't tell him that each speech didn't have that or he probably wasn't even right condition to know this stuff but um

49:35 After he passed they put a claim in for every penny that he had when I was in probate and What are going after his house? And I'm sure this happens to a lot of elderly people that really don't understand it They think that they have to be on MassHealth, and they don't have anyone that really fully explains it and he really had no idea what he was doing, and we weren't around enough to be able to really get into it. And actually, we didn't even know that he was on mental health at the time but I think this has happened with a lot of people who are losing their house they're loosing money from...that children should be getting or grandchildren and i would like to know if there's anything on that

50:14 amount of like how much they're getting from things, from that type of behavior. Thanks Dave let's go to Christine. I don't know yeah this is the first time hearing this your father you said he was elderly wouldn't he be on a government program for the elderly like Medicare? Man! Sorry we don't have him on the line anymore but talk to us about three days. How does that work in Massachusetts is it any different than any place else in the country Well, I don't know the particulars of Dave's circumstance but from what i heard it doesn't... if you're elderly You hear that she has no clue right? And now she is fumbling. It tickles me to hear these reporters who don't know crap. I don't know what their age is. Of course depends on when they opt in. The government program for older people Yeah, you don't know So here it is

51:08 and I read to you directly from the Mass.gov website, this is MassGov, this is their health, yeah MassHealth estate recovery You're gonna love this John, be very happy you're not in Massachusetts MassHealth has the right to get back money from the estates of MassHealth members after they die In general, the money that must be repaid is for service paid by MassHealth for a member after the member turned age 55 or for a member who is any age and for whom MassHealth paid for care in a nursing home.

51:46 uh... certainly as a israel property like a home must be sold to get money to repay mass health mass health in limited circumstances may decide that the state does not need to pay mass health the property must be left to a person blah blah blah so i think this isn't it this and didn't actually meet me when my mother died we looked into a bunch of these things uh... reaction before which has been hospitalized and there's some of these tricks are trying to pull It turns out that particular rule is in play almost everywhere. Medi-Cal in California will take your house. Really? Yeah, and I guess the Medicare system is also equipped to do the same thing and it all has to do with the way you are hospitalized if you were hospitalized for a continuous period of

52:41 There's something about, I don't remember the details. I was going to write a little paper on it but you know me. It is forthcoming everybody! Don't worry write along with the education stuff. Apparently there are these rules about like for example if you get hospitalized for 30 days You are considered to have abandoned your property and they can take it What? Yeah, I'm telling you there's a bunch of this stuff. This whole medical thing and the government including... Wow! This is the only reason why people should really think about the single payer These are all scams. All these insurance deals and the government insurance on the rest of it It's just a complete ripoff

53:23 Well, you will be scammed if you're not careful. So this is I didn't even know this was going on in Medicaid but it's just like wow and it is what we're gonna get more of this? And the guy had kids! But he took all his stocks sold all that mean what is the point of paying taxes or paying insurance or a combination and then you know that it pays off because he got sick or whatever and then they turn right around say okay hello I'm here to collect but that's messed up man. That is totally worse than you think, when we really start looking into it this just amazing some of the just as terrible in fact if anyone has someone who's older and there are some issues

54:09 There are lawyers that specialize in dealing with this and you have to track one of them down and start using because they'll tell ya, cause you're gonna be asked for example somebody will call the way it works at Kaiser is they have these people called social workers. And a social worker does nothing for you their whole scam is to get you to get the patient out of their system right and they do have everything they can to do that and what you have one of these attorneys in a just say don't talk to him i think it's just like a bill it's just amazing at the end really found remiss for not writing up more these details inside feel bad about it now on reading as the chat room is kinda scrolling by their dad looks like uh... maryland has this and he read looks like this is not not something completely

55:03 foreign or new but then you know here's I mean why are you hearing about this on this crappy podcast and when there is a woman from the Boston Herald isn't that supposed to be a real publication, the Boston Herald? Is that like any prestige to that or not. Yeah it says second rate major market newspaper in Boston right second to The Boston Globe well she doesn't know crap Well hello! But this is going on like everywhere and uh oh well I should give up you should. Why am I even bothering? It's horrible! What is going on in this country, in terms of scamming the public with all the legislative people involved it just is horrible Did you see this PDF that came out from the Asymmetric Warfare Group which at first was like some kind of 5013c scam non-profit but its actually

CHAPTER 10 / 27 Discussion

Asymmetric Warfare Group Radicalization Guide

The military's Asymmetric Warfare Group (AWG) released a tactical reference guide to help leaders identify signs of radicalization into violent extremism. Adam Curry reviews the guide's flowchart, which flags behaviors such as complaining about bias, visiting "extremist" blogs, or establishing websites to display unconventional views. The hosts jokingly apply these criteria to themselves, noting that the broad definitions could classify almost anyone as a potential threat.

asymmetric warfare group· awg· radicalization· violent extremism· military personnel· pre-crime· tactical reference guide

56:03 The asymmetric warfare group is a part of the military. Have you ever heard of this? AWG? Yeah. So I guess what they do is they publish reports and they give that to other arms of the military and try and help them understand, and it seems kind like a part PR agency, part training company... It's kinda like that Rubicon operation. Yes, see I've never watched Rubicon so I don't know what is it is, I have no idea. You can stream it free from Amazon! Oh thank you If you're a Prime Member, no doubt. So they released a tactical reference guide to radicalization into violent extremism and I'm pretty sure you haven't seen this yet

56:49 But it has a nice little handy flow chart which I figured we might as well just talk about for a moment. So from left to right, we have observe personal issues flag possible radicalization and then action prior to violent activity So this is a helpful guide. In fact, let me just read this to you there's no way to be 100% certain that an individual is becoming radicalized to the point that they may be considered violent action and maybe considering violent action however recent experiences show that there are certain warning signs or early indicators worth review The information below

57:29 Is a general guide for military personnel and leaders at every level, that would be you John. To give the user a basic understanding of when further action may be warranted So I'm thinking maybe we should just check this to make sure that you are doing your civic duty Of making sure that i am not self radicalizing and then you should take action I should call somebody for a pre-crime crime. Okay, are you ready to run through this? Okay, and i'm judging you yes You're judging of course. I mean why would you judge anyone else okay so we go from So first We observe the pisser the personal issues and i'm going from left to right uh horizontally across each Of these uh issues number one complains about bias Oh yeah, you yes ok now now I go to the flag possible radicalization table

58:20 Is sympathetic to radical groups. Yes! Okay, and then action prior to violent activity suddenly acquires weapons? Yeah you did that So that's just the first line John how we doing so far You're horrible okay now We're going back to the left advocates violence beyond what is normal No, no I don't do that visits extremist websites or blogs Research that's a tough one because it depends on what an X. I don't know what an extremist blog is. I mean who is Ike? Ike David Ike well Oh without would be extremists now But I also visit web sites and blogs for research or you know whatever okay? Well say yes to that all right Organizes protests inspired by extremist ideology not

59:12 No, I don't do that. Exhibits abrupt behavioral shifts. Oh yes! By the way, I could say the same for you. Establishes website or blog to display extremist views Yeah, well let's say is there no agenda show an extremist view. Yes I think so! I think every show notes... yeah okay that's a borderline though. Takes part in criminal activity or has trouble with law enforcement? Well it's an OR question yeah of course i have trouble with law enforcement. I don't know what that means but sounds like it doesn't mean that's bad but you have to give it a yes. Yeah I need empowerment

59:57 That's this bisexual curiosity thing. Yes, yes by curious speaks about seeking revenge Yeah all the time Advocates whether you do that But this goes on and on and on let's give you a couple more just cherry-pick them basically describing most people yeah So you're supposed to observe? notified chain of command of ideologies that could threaten unit cohesion Oh This is for if you're in a unit Council in an effort to help and assist with personal needs. I mean the whole thing here radically It's just the whole thing is like it's basically Everybody just put it out there Well, I don't know if you're in a unit how much time he had to surf the internet But I guess could happen yeah And start at an extremist be about to know that they're watching you yeah well They're totally watching me as duh okay? That's it all right We could go on and on but it's this it's more of the same thing

CHAPTER 11 / 27 Discussion

Beyond Wonderland Rave Noise Complaints in Oakland

A massive "Beyond Wonderland" rave held in the Oakland Coliseum parking lot generated thousands of noise complaints from residents as far as seven miles away. Alameda County Supervisor Wilma Chan reported receiving calls from angry constituents at 1:00 AM. John C. Dvorak questions why law enforcement did not enforce decibel level regulations, while Adam Curry criticizes the media for treating the event as a "human interest" story rather than a regulatory failure.

beyond wonderland· oakland coliseum· noise complaints· wilma chan· decibel levels· electronic dance music

1:01:03 Let's go into another topic. This is kind of like an Ask Adam, I found this story to be quite weird for a number of reasons There was this huge party in Oakland They took over the parking lot of the Raider Stadium and play this clip Giant Rave in Oakland It may go down as one of the most epic parties the Bay Area has ever seen. It was so loud it could be heard for miles, police departments were flooded with complaints thousands of them back San Leandro Police got so many calls that they sent out an alert telling people to stop calling 911 and call Oakland Police instead here's CBS 5 reporter Phil Matier

1:01:56 It was billed as beyond wonderland, an electronic dance in the Oakland Coliseum parking lot the other night that not only attracted thousands of ravers but also thousands of complaints. The party blasted mega decibel dance music that rattled windows and families as far away as San Lorenzo seven-and-a-half miles away this Alameda Street is four-and-a-half miles from the colosseum but on the night at the rave it was anything but quiet just constant thumping with all the windows rattling. My wife was up, neighbors everybody was out in the street By coincidence one of the people who live on this street is Alameda County Supervisor Wilma Chan who got an extra earful that night Well it was extremely loud from 6 to 2 a.m and I actually started getting calls at my house at 1am in the morning What were they saying? They said if we're gonna stay awake you're gonna stay awake Alright Okay here's the deal Yeah There are

1:02:52 Because of OSHA and other things there are numerous laws on the books about decibel levels in any enclosed or even an outdoor environment. Yeah, even though these laws are violated routinely Yes This sounds to me is though besides the fact that most people that are Of a young enough age to go to a lot of raves don't know anything about ear protection. Yeah So they're being deafened by these these events what? But where was the, where is the enforcement of this basic sound laws that are rampant in California? You can't have a factory that makes that kind of noise. I mean if you're getting sound that is traveling seven and half miles through the city

1:03:35 It's got to be some out-of-control. There must have been 200 decibels in that place or more Well, the law enforcement of course was at the party selling the drugs so they had no chance to shut it down This is a perfect opportunity for the e-sales and here and then sort of as a follow up to my observation Why didn't any news reporters even bring this up? The law enforcement selling drugs No, about the sound decibel levels at these events being outrageously illegal. Nobody was asked about it! How could you have an event like this? All you do is take one of these little devices from Radio Shack and push the button and think it'd be popping 180 or who knows how loud that was in there... It just seems to me that

1:04:24 I was completely befuddled by this story and the coverage of it. Well, the coverage is of course... It's a human interest story no one gives a crap about actual reporting The human interest thing is they had little pay off They already have that set up when they put the package together You know if we're gonna stay up you're gonna stay up This is the same as The Boston Herald woman These are not real reporters these are egomaniac people who like being on television And I'm more interested in what their hair is like. I know because i used to be one of those people Well you still have the hair thing going No, no I don't! I just have regular average Joe hair and a nice girth of hair which is usually why people always complain about it People with no hair are the ones that make jokes about my hair

1:05:12 Oh, yeah. You can set your watch by Harry. Yeah So that's just sad even vented I just was just stunned By the way it was covered the way it was right away reacted to it And I don't know there doesn't have been any follow-up to cite these people they should have shut the event down Okay, John I take it you were awakened by this noise out there in Berkeley and it really bothers you No, no if I had heard that I would have gone and checked out what the hell is going on You would have been Raven put on your white outfit All right so this is was watching The Department of State. You know their video channel. I'm always looking at the

CHAPTER 12 / 27 Discussion

Hillary Clinton and Christina Aguilera at World Food Program Awards

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton honored Christina Aguilera at the World Food Program Awards, making a comment about wanting to be on Aguilera's "team." The hosts discuss a viral photograph of Clinton appearing to look down Aguilera's cleavage, which they have hosted at a custom URL. They mock the interaction, referencing "presidential models" and MK Ultra conspiracy tropes.

hillary clinton· christina aguilera· world food program· george getty· cleavage· mk ultra

1:05:56 At the press conferences and to see if there's anything interesting going on. And I see Lucifer Clippity-Clop Clinton, and she is at the World Food Program Awards, and she says the following... And then finally, the two people that we are here to honor today you'll hear more about David and Christina Now the Christina she's talking about here John is... Wait! Christina Aguilera. Yes, correct! But I am personally delighted that they would come from the world of business and entertainment and with such passion and commitment really give up themselves to this global issue uh... and we are so grateful to you both if i could sing Christina I would

1:06:48 I would want to be on your team. You hear the crowd is laughing at the lesbian entendre of this. Woohoo! Be on my team!! But since i can't, im glad you're on this team. Alright now go to boobs dot curry dot com John. I've set it all up for ya in case you haven't seen it. Im sure plenty people tweeted and sent a link but incase you havent Are you there? Hold on. boobs.curry.com here you can see said Secretary of State eyeing the cleavage of Christina Aguilera at this event hold on, hold on I typed curry dot com no it's... curry dot com no its boobs dot curry dot com I set up just for you yeah well its taking me forever to get the daily mail you forwarded to the daily mail yes of course

1:07:52 Boozum buddy. Oh, Larry is almost too delicious to believe my friend Isn't that great? Basically looking right down her cleavage And then she's like come play on my team uh-huh all right This is just this is this is some believable it's great nothing is pretty cool actually That's a good catch by the photographer. Yeah, Fp Getty Images Oh yeah. Oh now they're kissing! oh yeah and you see how she's kind of kissing in the air like in a weird way but how Christina is going in and grabbing her by the back of the neck? Say no more She's a presidential model John You know... The MK ultra-presidential model Let's talk about the economy for a moment

CHAPTER 13 / 27 Discussion

IMF Economic Forecasts and Christine Lagarde's Housing Claims

IMF Chief Economist Olivier Blanchard predicts the global economic crisis will last until at least 2018, aligning with John C. Dvorak's long-wave cycle theories. Conversely, IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde claims the U.S. housing market has "bottomed up" and is showing signs of recovery. Dvorak dismisses Lagarde's optimism, arguing that housing cycles are distinct from broader economic health and that the "Great Recession" meme is being used to mask structural failures.

christine lagarde· olivier blanchard· imf· great recession· housing market· economic cycles· unemployment

1:08:59 I found that there was someone who was in the IMF no less, who is completely on board with your cycle theory. Let me get the article because i was kind of blown away This is the chief economist at the IMF his name is Oliver Blanchard and he was doing an interview with a Hungarian website And he said, well looks like we're going to be in crisis for at least a decade. Don't look for anything to come back until 2018 which was so close to your 2017 number I'm like is this guy on board with you? Have you seen these comments? No i have not! It sounds like he's got a clue But here's what's interesting So that's the IMF chief economist

1:09:55 who's saying crisis for at least a decade but then we have the big buanna, the boss of the IMF. The boss of him Christine Lagarde on CBS saying the following there are about 12 and a half million Americans who lost their jobs in the great recession by the way did you catch that little meme there this new meme? The Great Recession Actually, that's been around for a little while. I haven't heard it that way just you know the Great Recession as in you know It is like the Great Depression. Yeah i've heard of it only not as bad Have seen our economy in recession or stumbling along since late 2007 and alot of Americans just want to know when does this end? Now what do you think? Is she going to be on board with her chief economist and say well looks like 2018 What do you think

1:10:45 Well, because you brought the clip up and I'm trying to dissect what you're trying to do here. So i'm going to say that she's either gonna stretch it way out there or she's gonna say we're gonna have a comeback in the next two years. There is good news You know lurking out there. It's lurking out there Hey, do you see that a thing under your bed? That's good news and in particular the fact that the housing market hmm is as bottomed up and is What is what does that mean when she stayed bottomed up Yeah She says it was like the housing market is sticking its ass in the air I mean what does that bottom to up

1:11:28 I think she meant bottomed up. Sounds like the thing they're doing with the alcohol. Do you think she means bottomed out but she says bottomed up just because she doesn't know any better? It must be. She knows better, that was a flub has bottomed up and is picking up, is in our view a clear sign that the situation is improving. I know it doesn't seem very convincing because for the people who've lost their job who are still unemployed and not even getting benefits because they don't bother to go and register because they have no hope

1:12:10 I know the people who have given up, have no hope and have a gun to their head do not want to believe me. That's literally what she is saying! I know people who lost their jobs, have given up, have no hope are on skid row and don't even have television to hear me talking. They've lost their jobs, they're still unemployed and aren't getting benefits because they don't bother going register because they have no hope It doesn't mean much. No, it doesn't! But when you appreciate that the US crisis started off with a housing crisis coupled with the financial crisis When you see that the financial institutions have been clearly strengthened restructured and made a little bit safer And that the housing market is picking up That's not bad

1:12:59 Hey, you there with a gun to your head with no hope. You haven't even...you don't even look for work anymore because you're hopeless! It's not bad. It's not a problem. Well, couple of things. First of all the housing situation is actually wasn't the housing crisis that caused the problem it was the bundling of mortgages that were part of it and If anything, it triggered the crisis but it wasn't really part of the crisis. And anyone who studies these long cycles will tell you that the housing cycles are uniquely in and of themselves separate cycles so the housing thing can go up or down or anything in between is not going to affect a real overall situation with the economy as a whole. It just never does

1:13:51 Okay, and I over that's it. That's it so so she's full of crap the other guys right? Thank you Thank you. That's all I wanted to hear She's full of crap But yeah You know if you have no hope you can always look at her son sun-kissed face The nice brown face with a white eyes of Christine Lagarde and that should give you hope It's just I mean it makes me feel very hopeful when I see her she's fresh off the yacht from an old Susie Orman Yeah, all dried up and crumpled. No she's headed no She she reminds me of just a total douchebag I wake up in the morning. I think who's a douche bag? I'm thinking her so even though it is a national Bullying prevention awareness month that is of course still also National cyber

CHAPTER 14 / 27 Discussion

White House Phishing Attack and Cybersecurity Awareness Month

During National Cybersecurity Awareness Month, reports surfaced of a Chinese "hack attack" on White House computers, which was later revealed to be a simple phishing email on an unclassified network. The hosts mock the sensationalized coverage by Fox News and the Free Beacon. They also discuss evidence that DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano does not use a computer in her office, relying instead on printed PowerPoint slides and possibly an iPhone.

white house· chinese hackers· phishing attack· cybersecurity awareness month· janet napolitano· fox news· department of homeland security

1:14:44 Security Awareness Month. It's a lot of months, it is very busy month for awareness and just in time for the Cybersecurity Awareness Month as we discussed on Sunday Washington DC confirms Chinese hack attack on White House computer I am reading from Fox News i'm sure you read these reports John these were quite disturbing I... did they ever tell you what computer? Was this somebody's laptop and that works in the White House, or what was this? Well the story is phenomenal. So these are the headlines and it was like oh confirmed Chinese hack attack White House computer!

1:15:27 And here's what happened, White House sources confirmed an alarming report. I'm reading directly from Fox News that US government computers reportedly including systems used by the military for nuclear commands were breached by Chinese hackers! It was a phishing attack against an unclassified network. Essentially someone received an email that was spam In the White House, and then this report rolls out of it on the other end just in time for Cybersecurity Awareness Month. Really? An email contained a phishing attack from a computer server in China the law enforcement source told Fox News The attack was first reported by the conservative blog Free Beacon Maybe that's free bacon

1:16:13 Phishing involves the use of messages disguised to appear as valid. In fact, they contain targeted malicious attempts to access sensitive or confidential information I can just imagine a couple of these idiots on the Cyber Security Committee there in the Senate who go like Where's that executive order? We gotta get it out as soon as possible This is how this is a pathetic story. Yeah, well it's Fox I mean these yes these you know if anyone who knows anything about how this works they just their blanket Emails they just sent them out to everybody. I mean no one's good They go out to everyone that's not targeting the White House. I think our audience knows this Don't think you have to explain to them How dumb this is yeah? I guess you're right what am I saying uh-huh oh

1:17:03 But it is dumb. And Fox, this is the problem. This is the problem you have with the head of Department of Homeland Security who doesn't even know how to use a computer! I think we've established that." Well, you know what's interesting? One of our producers went out to see if he could actually prove the thesis and he Everywhere he looked where Janet Napolitano also known as Lucy is Showing presentations. It's all PowerPoint slides that are printed out Nowhere, do you ever see her with a laptop in front of her? And you know this producer looked through a lot of a lot of pictures and videos I will say we found the video from 2000 let me see 2010 and that's ABC did a Did a piece on her

1:17:51 And you know when inside Homeland's you went into the room with all the monitors and then went to a tour office. And for like at the one and it's in the show notes of course this said this clip about 1 minute 18 seconds, you can see an iPhone with a blue case charging on the credenza next to her desk which leads me to believe that she's full of crap about the email but you know an iPhone, that's probably about her level I think. That she could handle that. You know breath on the button oh i have a web browser! I think the producer said that there was a... He looked at all the office photos of her and there is no computer in her office at all

CHAPTER 15 / 27 Discussion

TSA Opt-Out Games and Priority Line Tactics

Adam Curry describes his "valet service" game at airport security, where he uses coach-class Southwest tickets to enter priority lines and treats TSA agents like personal assistants during his mandatory "opt-out" pat-downs. He recounts an experience at Austin-Bergstrom International Airport where he was searched by a trainee not wearing a uniform. Curry encourages listeners to use these tactics to feel "empowered" against the "sheep-like" behavior of other travelers.

tsa· lax· austin-bergstrom international airport· priority line· southwest airlines· valet service· pat-down

1:18:32 No, there isn't but the same video he sent me that's where I found just a brief glimpse where i saw the iPhone. But that could have been someone else's iPhone it could be one of the producers who were shooting that and doesn't even have to be hers um... but yeah no she has no computer in her office nothing! I think you're completely right she does not even- You're right! Doesn't know how to turn one on knows nothing There are people out there like that So we've been traveling quite a bit sticking with Lucy I now have my lines for the TSA because of course Miss Mickey and I continue to opt out. And may I tell you once again,

1:19:13 that we are having the greatest joy with our coach class tickets going straight through the premier first-class line. It is, so we're in Los Angeles coming back and Los Angeles is a little different story because the security there at LAX is a zoo I mean it's like the line is incredibly long it takes at least 30 sometimes 45 minutes to get through the security line and its snaking around and this big funnel this big trap nerve-wracking, but they have some kind of slave who stands in front of the security line and whose only job is to assess if you can go through the premium line. And then they open that little ribbon, you know? The one that zips back into the pole... So I'm with Miss Mickey, the hard hat on the clipboard and so we go up, we walk straight towards her she says priority! Then the human resource there says what?! Mickey says priority

1:20:12 Show me your boarding card and Mickey pulls out the Southwest boarding card. Southwest? I kid you not! That just makes it so hilarious. I kid you not, pulls out the southwest boarding card with boarding position A37 And the person doesn't even look okay walk right through Like what It's crazy. You just have to be, you've just got to do it! I'm telling you this is great and now ever since we came up with the valet service line...I've been using this all the time so um as you know and we say hey i'd like to opt out if you don't mind okay yeah sure no problem um you know that this is not an x-ray right? And so I say two things No no no uh I am just saying when Janet Napolitano walks through it then I'll go through it and by the way I really appreciate the valet service

1:21:05 And they're confused John you've got to try this. You really it's really funny sir I did it you can ask Mickey like, I love the valet service yes um Yes that's my bin and that's my laptop and that's my jacket oh yeah please be careful of the shoes okay I just do it like that. They can't they can't figure it out. They did it You've got to do this It is it is fascinating absolutely what are they gonna? Do arrest me? I'm just being really nice I'm like, I'm just pretending that its valet service. It's great when I met Oh when I'm at Oakland I can't pull off any of these stunts because they have a line that has the magnetometer. Mm-hmm

1:21:47 So I just go into that line and even if they tell me to move it to another line, I just pay no attention to them. Yeah that also has all sides. I just go through boom and out of there So I mean, I don't have the opportunity to opt out at Oakland. I can do it at Seattle Maybe yeah Even though I've been every time we go to see how there's always some some something going on and they're not using the machines well anyway The most important lesson here is that you need to take your coach ticket and get into the priority line Every single time and you will just feel great as feels so empowering to see all these sheep standing in line And you just walk right... What are they gonna do? They're going to send you to the back of the line, okay maybe that'll happen. You know and you can get really arrogant about it. You know you can stand up there in front and then because it's the same TSA officer and then they'll say next! And then you just go excuse me priority! Just walk right in front of them It feels so good

1:22:44 It does, it feels great. And luckily none of the TSA people that work at any of these airports listen to the No Agenda show. Now they're too busy stealing iPads. Eh please... Yeah well it'd be interesting if we actually had one person that worked there could give us some insight Oh I'm sure we have a couple that are listening. I'm sure you know maybe yeah I got a trainee by the way I got a trainee from, because we went home for one day and then we flew out yesterday. So we flew from Austin and did the whole priority line again that's real easy at Austin. Austin don't have anyone checking in. And then you opt-out

1:23:26 Look, they're actually kind of nice. I have to say the Austin TSA You know They try to make you know The trade a minute time make nice conversation but it was taking a really long time for my male assist about Dale assist line three male says we got a wheelchair male assist and I could work there in a heartbeat. I know all the lingo male assists wiped out And so finally the woman comes over who had gotten Mickey like 15 minutes ago. She said, well I'm going to see if I can find somebody for you so have a seat and that guy comes over no uniform he's just wearing a TSA badge and you know you have to sit on the chair in the little area there and says okay i'm gonna do the pat down excuse me uh you have no uniform on how do I know who are you? Are you a supervisor

1:24:14 He says no I'm a trainee. You don't have a uniform? Says no it's still, yes! I'm not kidding you they're still sending it to me. Well yeah you can do that you can just hang a bat, you know a laminate on a lanyard around your neck and say that you're gonna search me It's a no, no and then another guy came over. No this is my trainer So okay well good then let's go for it And I was like looking at him like oh no you forgot to mention that That I have the right to a private screening Oh yeah, so thank you. You're the trainer! I'm telling you John i'm having a good time with this now. I used to get really tense and upset about doing all this and now it's changed my life by turning into this hilarious game which consists of one audience member that likes it namely me

CHAPTER 16 / 27 Discussion

Listener Requests and New Way to Watch TV Website

The hosts process a series of listener donations and "karma" requests, including a shout-out for the website "anewwaytowatchtv.com." Robert Stokes promoted the site as a way to watch AMC shows like *Breaking Bad* online following cable disputes. Other donors, including Thomas Lee and Mac Tudor, contribute to the show's "value-for-value" model, with some requesting "douchebag" call-outs for non-donating friends.

chris ruddy· mac tudor· thomas lee· robert stokes· breaking bad· amc· value-for-value

1:25:05 It's very valuable. You can't please yourself, who can you please? It is very very valuable! I'm gonna show my sublude by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab Enjoy my game! Okay, we've got a bunch of people that helped us out today. Thank you very much. Very nice. Chris Ruddy in New York, New York 12345 Hey! I'd like to request Job Hunting Karma from my smoking hot wife and Fuck Cancer Karma from my cousin Molly in the morning. Hey now... You've got karma Mac Tudor in Chicago Illinois 11111 or no actually 1-1110 according to this

1:25:52 Yeah, because 55 bucks from each of us could be nice on your upcoming five year anniversary. Kate and I have enjoyed listening to you from the heart of Gitmo Nation Corruption Chicago. So it's 55-55 in the morning. Thomas Lee is London and I assume it's London England? Yes. $100 dollars. I've wanted to send you another donation for some time as part of the Value For Value model but have not had the cash to do so thankfully now I can after selling one of my kidneys to a rich Arab What? People, unless you support the things you like they will disappear. Thanks for your great show please give a douchebag to those in the UK who have not donated and please can I have some karma? Douchebag! You've got karma And don't sell your kidney to rich Arabs That's not necessary Not good Andrew Glenn in Amersham Buckingshire Buckinghamshire

1:26:51 Uh, Hunter. Can I have a MILF karma for my lovely wife Fiona on the occasion of her birthday? And to help her with her new job teaching economics to young slaves here in Gitmo Nation East but don't mention the size of this modest donation or it's too late now not being a fan of the show she would otherwise write it down and use as evidence against me later Oops! By the way now withstanding your recent Skype problems I think I can explain those spells where we can hear John but we hears everything But he hears everything. Adam get Johnny to deny that he has a wide-brimmed plastic bottle behind his desk into which he leaves himself mid show He obviously kills his microphone so we don't hear the tinkle Also, please don't listen into chat room when deciding whether or not to edit Last Sunday's show was excruciating otherwise keep up the good work I don't listen to the chat room it was our own decision MILF Karma Yeah, Milf Karma here we go MILF That's one mother I like

1:27:50 You've got karma By the way, by the way There's a there's a fast-forward button ever hear of it Robert Stokes Oklahoma City Oklahoma 100 I'd appreciate some car for a little project. I'm working on new way to watch tv.com HTTP a new way to watch TV dot com and a douchebag call out to Thomas and OKC for continuing to be a freeloading douche bag. DOOCHEBAG! Oh cool, let me take a look at this so it's karma for a new way to watch tv dot com excellent You've got karma Let me take a look at this John A new...way..to....watch.....tv dot com It may be something really cool who knows? Let me see what is going on with this

1:28:41 Oh, check it out man. It's got like AMC so we can just watch AMC online here? New way to watch TV dot com I like this too what do we do So i want to click on something that I like so Breaking Bad I like that are we just going to watch Breaking Bad? Breaking bad A N W T E W T V So now I'm just watching tv Well this means you can watch the AMC shows they've taken off your niche network Well that looks pretty good. Does it work? Well I want to be careful because i don't want to mess up my connection but it looks like it all right cool well hey karma for that man like it thank you thank you for supporting the show okay uh where was i oh 69! 69 dudes

1:29:39 Okay, looks like we got a bunch of them today. One two three four five about ten twenty not to twenty-two Jonathan Rowley in Hinton Alberta 6969 Jonathan from Edmonton flat cannons for humanity love the show can I get a hey citizen karma? Yeah you sure can Hey citizen! You've got karma Jason Stevens, Sir Jason Stevens to you in Las Wages Nevada 6969 and now he's drunk. Okay so I'm like totally drunk sorry for screwing up last time with the 6968 but i was drunk then too You guys are one of the few bastions of sanity out in this world and it just terrors me when RT or Alex Jones rips you guys off! I think that summarizes things. You know what? This is funny

1:30:37 Apparently there's now an ask Alex segment Ask Alex, it's getting pretty blatant everybody. Yeah I'm not kidding guys are horrible They really are hey everybody buy some water filters and some seeds Okay We've got Jonathan Rob I'm sorry, Robert Stokes in Oklahoma City. Did i give him? Oh no you didn't call yeah we did all that. Yeah I was reading it while you were reading the other thing. Paul J. Paul Sankowski. Okay so let's move on to Paul Sankowski and Winooski Vermont just need a little shut up slave karma. Shut Up! You've got Karma

1:31:25 Let's see if we got an email from Dave Koss. He is on the birthday list, John. Oh okay, 6969 for Dave Koss and Winooski. Sir Joho of YoHo Woodbridge, Virginia. 6969 please address me as Sir Joho of Yoho Please guys really great shows lately I recently ran into a techno expert at my humble store He mentioned visiting Dubai alot one thing led to another Apparently he works for the State Department in Afghanistan I asked him about the Pentagon 2.0 in Kabul and he basically said when the troops all leave that's where he is going to be

CHAPTER 17 / 27 Discussion

Alex Jones Plagiarism and the "Ask Alex" Segment

A donor known as Sir Joho of Yoho reports on "Pentagon 2.0" in Kabul, suggesting a permanent U.S. presence in Afghanistan. The hosts then pivot to criticize Alex Jones and RT for allegedly "ripping off" No Agenda's format and segments, specifically citing a new "Ask Alex" segment on InfoWars. They joke that they should be more rude to their listeners to increase donations, as the pharmaceutical industry uses fear to drive sales.

alex jones· infowars· rt· plagiarism· sir joho of yoho· pentagon 2.0· kabul

1:32:13 So it sounds like we're gonna be there indefinitely. You guys missed my donation note a few shows ago, but I'm not mad actually got a double nighting out of it by the way how did I get- How do I get my ring again? It's rings at noagendanation dot com is the email just play best otherwise you'll become Hello John that I just lose you Wow that was weird let me uh...I don't hear anything for some reason now hold on second this is not right Uh oh

1:32:58 What went wrong there? Oh, I can't hear a single... I can't hear anythi- oh there we go! That was weird. I'm sorry it took so long to answer the phone, i was sending back the feedback. What did you say? No it sucked? I said... I gave him the lowest where he couldn't make a conversation by giving me second. I did the feedback once and like why am I even bothering with this bullcrap! I can't believe doing that. I have a true believer So we need a best podcast in universe jingle for him. I want to make sure we do that.

1:33:45 You know, I'm so surprised. I don't see Leo Laporte on the list He said it was gonna become a knight. I heard him say it. I heard him say it too. Yeah, God pester him Yeah Chris Bolton in Newcastle Upon somewhere where you can you see the whole thing? New Castle upon Staffordshire A new castle castle under lime Oh, yeah. Yeah, Newcastle under Lyme Staffordshire. Sorry. I got it to okay 6969 Short time boner who's listened to a few of your podcasts on Sunday I thought I'd try for the first time to listen to the live stream and lurk in the chat room after enjoying some simplex broadcasting of world-class quality Imagine my joy at JCD declaring that everyone in the chat room should go screw themselves Needless to say that was exactly the encouragement. I needed to become a donor Like two to their head for me and a karma from my hardworking wife Nikki

1:34:45 To help her new business grow, keep up the adequate work. That's great! Regards Chris Bolton I really that's very that's highly appreciated hold on a second he wanted two to the head You've got karma, you know we keep forgetting about this John We keep forgetting that you know what the pharmaceutical companies learned a long time ago Is that the worst? You know The more you tell people they're going to die and this is horrible. The more people want the product So I think we are not rude enough to our listeners. We have to step it up of it Yeah, I know I thought about

1:35:22 uh... the bitch general get you going to a million another lost wages in nevada don't sixty nine sixty nine eric bostrom and woodenville washington nice will play sixteen and sixty-nine as a long time do sure i was forced into donating by the terrible amazingly awesome sunday show where buzzkill had his audio computer epic fail please read the love of god by john a new computer headphone package and ship it to him You're absolutely correct. Mumble was detecting the feedback and canceling it out That's what happens when both mics are open and one idiot is using a speaker set to listen to the audio Yeah another expert

1:36:04 Please provide me a de-douching which he definitely needs and to do the head slide whistle karma You have the slide whistle. Yeah, I don't have the slide whistle. I didn't bring my slide whistle Hey, I brought it up at TSA if they catch you with us look I tell you what instead of that I did find the jobs jobs job so we'll substitute Jobs for slight on the slide whistle for jobs okay? You've been do jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Something like that. Larence Fisher somewhere he's in Yoko Yokota

1:36:44 In Japan, I'm an airman stationed in the Empire of Japan. You're winning a good fight and keeping the Emperor from returning to power Like he really wants to yeah, I consider myself a real liberal status But I need to keep track of you guys Maybe I'll get the cue to wake up to the situation from your alternative new view on today's news keeps applying what MSM doesn't And you'll have a regular and let that Michigan donation complainer know you are you pers? You purse yeah, they're you purse. We're listening if you like that it's some sort of he's from Michigan apparently to me anything UPRS is something they know about in Michigan I don't know you I think it has to do with the Upper Peninsula Okay, I think they called you purrs up there. You know your Michigan's two-part state Oh really

1:37:40 Yeah, it's got a big chunk and then there is another part up in Minnesota. Thank you for that perfect explanation! It's a two-part state you know? I'm like all ready for it and its like...it has got a big chunk and then there is another piece of there by Minnesota And there is a bridge! Yay to nowhere Yeah, well there you go. Now that's an insult. Anonymous in Plano Texas 6969. Yay! Anonymous please like to tell the chatroom to fuck themselves karma. Karma hail Dvorak Hey it worked man You've got karma I'm seeing at least two donations based upon that What another one?

1:38:20 Communication 2020, Seattle Washington 6969 in honor of John's expletive deleted the chatroom comment. Chat room loved it! Any attention? Dave Cawson ULIS Texas another Texan there you go 6969 well the earthquake machine went off last night twice in Dallas just in time for my birthday September 30th I'd like to wish myself a happy one and promote my friend's film called Polarized about polarization of American politics, which is almost done but needs some help. He's trying very hard to make it bipartisan documentary which is not easy he also has an Indiegogo project set up for his final round of funding

1:39:05 and also you left some read that free the you know okay Adam you left a pair of HEMA underwear at the house on the Hot Pocket store I figure just send it back or donate the proceeds to this show. Okay now first of all, we did stay at uh... a day's house when we were on the this summer's hot pockets tour and we did like a girl you take some united leaders really younger guys in all of this about women yet he brings somebody or your house apartment whatever and she'll leave crap all over the place just in case you have a different girl that your dating so catch ins you see that you're too timer not let me just explain how how does what you do any thrown out now around the house

1:39:51 So, you know it's very doing this stuff is really stressful when we're doing the shows on the road and of course in Dallas It was you know 110 degrees And I'm in the bin outside and inside and you know and miss Mickey and I have a lot split up right? We have our we kind of had this Our duties kind of divided where you know my job is to do the show. Um, I did a lot of the driving I do the hookups the unhook ups all this stuff and then what I don't have to worry about is clothes and laundry. And so I can literally come in completely drenched in sweat from doing the show, I know that Miss Mickey...I love her for this she has like my you know fresh clothes ready, I can just step out of my clothes into the shower uh and then step into fresh clothes and I know that these clothes will magically pick themselves up and go into the uh into the laundry bag. So I believe that Dave Cost doesn't just have a pair of my HEMA underwear but that they are dirty

1:40:46 and I think this is definitely ebay worthy. I think you should go for that Dave, and donate the proceeds to the show John this could be huge! This could be a huge take for us I think Mickey's panties would be more popular Oh please, you had to go there seriously? You asked for it, i couldn't resist. It was gross I know Melanie Schofield Also in lost wages Nevada, what's going on today? It's amazing how many lost wages in Nevada. Why do you... 69, my donation owed I can't stand it when you... What? I was gonna say why do you consistently say lost wages like its funny for the 500th time? Its not funny anymore if we got it. Or they say Massachusetts every time Yeah its not funny either

1:41:46 When I feel this, when I yeah okay. Just pointing it out anyway. Melanie Schofield in Las Duages Nevada 6969 I can't stand it when you two get testy on the show just like now and hope a little 6969 will smooth things over years ago I set up an automatic $15 per month payment with my bank but I just switched to 5555 Wow! A month What? I encourage all listeners to pony up even if it's only $10 or 15 dollars per month. Adam, i don't need any jingles or dancing monkeys

1:42:27 Only keep you I only ask that you both keep analyzing deconstructing. Why do I think we've already read this? Donation, it was red last last show Because I mean it's just all double again Melanie are these old doubles is that what the sailors who it is It's Taylor not Melanie comes in his melon anyway Let's move on James Briscoe again where you know how many donates all the time but hold on That just ended 69.69. 69! 69, dude! I'm sorry, I wasn't paying attention And I'll note 13 which is short of the 14 we had last show and the record of 22 so it looks like it's dropping off We're on the way out Downer Yeah, I think it's over James Briscoe Sir James Briscoe to you and I Bayshore New York 69.68

1:43:25 Gizmo Long Island checking in thanks for the promotion on the clip by ClipSight still working on it dealing with browser compatibility issues as a pain intentionally donating one penny less than the fabled $69.69 due to wanting to be the last after the jubilee with the Swazant Nuf donors because I'm Because I too am always wrong just like you curry Please give a shot of karma to smita. She needs it, and I'm sure even she doesn't I don't need it That's right. We're always wrong karma here comes my favorite. You've got Karma and so james i can't wait for me get that side up and running is very cool the one i showed you were just click on it starts playing a section from the show you can annotated i think there's going to be big breakthrough in podcast uh... technology so i'm looking forward to but he didn't turn out to be the last because jason stevens surges in stevens as a matter of fact from lost wages nevada which is amazing how many we've got today sixty nine sixty eight

CHAPTER 18 / 27 Discussion

Wheat Belly, GMOs, and Adam Curry's Post-Smoking Dental Issues

In response to a donor's recommendation of the book *Wheat Belly*, the hosts discuss the negative health impacts of GMO wheat and corn. Adam Curry, who has been smoke-free for 35 days, describes an unusual side effect: dental pain caused by his teeth hitting each other differently now that he no longer constantly holds a hand-rolled cigarette in his mouth. John C. Dvorak suggests using Red Vines as a non-toxic substitute for the oral fixation.

wheat belly· gmo wheat· soy· smoking cessation· dental pain· red vines· heritage seeds

1:44:26 I hope to be front-running in the spirit of Goldman Sachs. This was on last week's show too, wasn't it? Yeah this doesn't make any sense to me! I think the merge purge capabilities of our software is lacking. See i was always under the impression that... I'll talk over with Buzzkill Jr. You know what, I think you should dock his pay Well, it's not his fault. Oh so this goes through well as a long story personal auto advisors Gardner Kansas 6560 It's Brian Tobias and not personal auto advisors. Oh Okay, I can't get rid of that stupid name This is kept us coming up on PayPal Anyway here's 5555 an honor your five-year anniversary in $10 and 5 cents toward my daughter Christine second birthday on 10 5

1:45:21 You guys touched on poison wheat back several episodes ago. Check out the book Wheat Belly, you'll learn a lot more about the crap GMO wheat does to our bodies. Yeah. You mean like incorporate pesticides? Yeah like thank you I'm just not gonna eat it anymore. I haven't eaten wheat and as far as i know for a long long time I try to stay away from it. Corn is worse! Oh of course it's all bad. I mean I'm just eating energy bars And yeah, there's no wheat or corn in those. No! There is only soy which shrinks your brain Which is the same thing... another one. Mm-hmm No I actually were out floating around and uh.. There are a lot of organic corn growers in this area that they refuse to use GMO seeds and they have all these crazy

1:46:06 heritage seeds and you can actually get corn that's not going to kill ya. But you know where I'm at with the corn? Because of course we have that at the market as well, there is already so much corn in everything! I don't even feel like i need any corn even though it would be great corn, I love corn on the cob but just like... Yeah yeah people eat too much corn, we're a corn country but now its toxic Douglas Van Huyzen in Houston Texas 6116 Fainhausen Fanehausen in Houston, Texas. It's been a while since I've donated mostly due to me living the American dream but i figure it's time to change that and decided to give up smoking this weekend instead of keeping extra cash for myself I thought you guys deserve some of the hard work for the hard work you do keep it up if you don't mind he needs a de-douching and shot at karma for his lovely wife You've been De-Douched

1:46:59 You've got karma. Yeah, congratulations and I would like to point out that Miss Mickey and I have now been smoke-free for about 35 days we celebrated our one month and indeed you do...I mean this is this has been the best thing for our finances as we have done it does save you a lot of money and it saves our health but you know what's what I have noticed though? My teeth are all messed up. This is really weird, do you have a second for this? Because we have a lot of dentists... Yeah, you always have some weird complaint about this. Well dentists always listen to the show so You know me right I've always rolled my own smokes and i always have it kind of in my face whether its lit or not particularly during the show but when im in the car, when Im outside I always got like this smoke on one side just kinda clenched between my teeth

1:47:57 And because of the nature of the rolled up smokes, you know, the roll your own cigarettes that I would smoke. I would just relight it and so pretty much had this thing in my face at least 18 hours a day. Would you agree? Lots! Yeah lots So I stopped smoking and now of course two things. First of all, not getting all that smoke in my lungs and by the way no more coughing. I don't have to blow my nose as much that's all been pretty much a big benefit But then my teeth started to hurt because they would be, you know my top teeth will be hitting my bottom teeth with no smoke in between. And so then I start to compensate for the right side now it's the left side and literally for a month my teeth have been hurting because they are now hitting each other in ways that haven't for 30 years. Huh? Yeah! So... My advice? Start smoking?! Red Vines

1:48:59 Red Vines, what's that? Oh you mean the candy? Yeah. Good idea but I don't want to be dependent on it and get over it so... I'm trying to get over it. You look cool just walking around with a red vine hanging out of your mouth constantly! Okay John when I need coolness tips I'll make sure to come to you Exactly Volvo Plus Tuning also known as Christopher Taylor in Raleigh North Carolina 5555 Keep hitting these MFers in the mouth. Dedicated to my baby mama, Kennetha Davis from Knightdale North Carolina Stop being a boner and donate! Yay yay? Alright

CHAPTER 20 / 27 Discussion

Teaching the "Shut Up Slave" Catchphrase to a Parrot

Adam Curry attempts to teach John C. Dvorak's parrot, Skylar, the show's "Shut Up Slave" catchphrase by shouting it through the Skype connection. Dvorak notes that his wife, Mimi, is the "crazy bird lady" and that the bird already makes various animal sounds. The segment concludes with the formal "knighting" of donors Adam Johnson, Frank Ajinsat, and Paul J. Sandowski into the No Agenda Roundtable.

skylar· parrot· mimi· shut up slave· catchphrase· knighthood· roundtable

1:57:21 I haven't got you to eat eggs and cheese. Wait, wait, wait! John do you have the speakers on? You have speakers no headphones right just speakers yeah yeah turn them up really loud Turn the speakers? Yeah hey bird bird bird bird what's the birds name? You can hear out of this room you can only here in What's the birds name I don't know what the bird's name is not you mentioned it for some reason eluded me. Come on, the bird has a name! You don't even know- Let me get the bird to shut up hang on No i want to teach the bird something open the door Bird bird bird bird Shut Up Slave! Come on bird you can do this say it again shut up Shut Up Slave! Come on bird bird bird Shut Up Slave! Listen bird bird bird Shut Up Slave! Hey gotta turn that higher What? Hang On I'm turning it up higher Okay alright ready ready bird Shut Up Slave

1:58:10 Come on, Bird! Shut up, Slave. Come on! Bird bird bird! Shut up, Slave You gotta know the birds name man if I can't call his name then he won't know how that i'm trying to teach him something. I just completely blanked on his name I know what his name is What is it? He cant hear you. Bird! Shut Up, Slave Okay do you think he heard it No Oh alright Well, at least find out what the record I'll take this shop say thing. We just play it to him over Yeah, I played over and over just like during the night Just see if he uh, he picks up on it that would be cool Can you imagine Mimi? That bird is going shut-up slave the whole time yeah, how would that would mean priceless

1:59:00 All right, we're done everybody. Hold on a second I gotta mention this very important thing that you need to go to Dvorak dot org slash N A Please support your favorite podcast and hopefully it is this one We also known as The Best Podcast In The Universe It's your birthday, birthday! I'm Noah Jenkins. Adam Johnson congratulates himself he turns 30 today Andrew Glenz is happy birthday to his wife Fiona Dave Cost of course we congratulated him last Sunday but well he is a sir and knight so you might as well do it again He was celebrating on the 30th of September and he will be auctioning off

1:59:39 I'm taking off my dirty HEMA underwear for charity. That charity being this program here and Brian Tobiasen congratulates his daughter Christine, she turns two tomorrow! Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show! I can't wait to see how much the HEMA underwear pick up...I'm telling you that's good. And the winner has to take a picture of them wearing them on their head As a bonus. All right, we have a number of knights here that we are going to bring into our elusive roundtable so I'd like you just draw your sword there Johnny boy That would be very helpful good Adam Johnson Frank Ajinsat and Paul J Sandowski Please step forward all three of you have reached the elusive level of knight of the no agenda Roundtable And that means that you've

2:00:33 Contributed to the best podcast in university, amount of $1,000 or more. We could not be happier and hereby I declare you all night so please welcome Sir Paul! Sir Frank and Sir Adam Come on boys for your hookers and blow your rent boys in Chardonnay your geishas and sake or if you're hot pants and booze We've got it all right here at the round table for the Knights And of course, your rings are on their way Make sure you email your ring size to ring at no agenda nation comm will take care that for you since you got in before The end of the year after The years over if the universe still exists we will move on with a new

2:01:10 Identifying mark some people have mentioned dog tags as a great thing for nights, which I think is interesting Mmm. It's interesting like the dogs that you could have we could have tungsten dog tags Skylar is your bird's name yeah Yeah Like see I even know your birds name. Yeah, I expected you to Shut up I like it. I think it's kind of cool

CHAPTER 21 / 27 Discussion

Danny Bonaduce Bitten by Fan at Skagit Valley Casino

Former child star Danny Bonaduce was reportedly bitten in the face by a blonde female fan during an appearance at a Skagit Valley casino. Bonaduce joked that the woman might have been a "zombie" or someone suffering from the side effects of the smoking cessation drug Shantix. Adam Curry recalls working with Bonaduce during his MTV days and warns against the dangers of close fan interactions.

danny bonaduce· mtv· skagit valley casino· zombie· shantix· fan interaction

2:01:47 I like it a lot. Anyway, this is the value for value proposition that we have going on here We bring you a valuable podcast we do it wherever we are and when I mean we try to have some kind of personal life but will still bring it to you from hotel rooms and And now John is not at his home base either he's up at the in that the bird sanctuary So we really try to put on a good show for you and give you the full benefit of our media assassination. Just a fun little clip before I get into something very, very serious which I'm quite concerned about... This is Danny Bonaduce. You remember Danny Bonaduce, of course?

2:02:26 Yes, he is a pitch man on television. Yes. He's from the Partridge family I worked with Danny quite a bit in the MTV days It had to say although he was always always in some kind of horrible trouble You know like we do spring break with MTV and then he'd get arrested for you know soliciting a tranny in Florida I'm not kidding it was always like someone's gotta go get Danny out of jail So I guess he does a morning shows now wherever he can do his show and something peculiar happened to him which turned into a great promotional moment for Danny's morning show. Former child star Danny Bonaduce says a fan bit him in the face over this weekend, the incident apparently happening while he was appearing at a Skagit Valley casino King 5's Chris Daniels talked to Bonaduce tonight Chris

2:03:20 Strange one. What did he have to say? Well, Alan Bonaduce admits he's had some scrapes in life but nothing quite like this When he says a blonde woman approached with a small request Can I give you a kiss and I said yes she threw her legs up so i held her in like this and she just bit down on my face So what do you think uh... Bonaduce thinks is the reason for this happening John Aliens. Super hard! I gotta assume it was a zombie chick or somebody quitting smoking. Interesting he said that though, it's either a zombie chick which yes we'll go for the zombie chick or someone quitting smoking and like yeah that's possible if they're on the shantix Danny would know. Danny would know

2:04:07 This reminds me of the guy, the ShamWow guy getting... it's almost a woman trying to suck his tongue out of his face and bite it off. Ooh! Well that'll teach you don't let fans hug you and kiss you although I do it all the time. I'm just waiting on one day like hey man come on give me some sugar give me a hug and they shiv me. You know what? It could happen. Like oh uh uh yeah right in the gut. Shive. I like the use of the word. They shive me. It is a good word. Shive is underused word Alright, so something very disturbing is going on. I'll play this little clip that has been going on in a number of different forms but for those not living in the United States or America

CHAPTER 22 / 27 Discussion

Peanut Butter Salmonella Recall and Food Safety Modernization Act

A major salmonella recall involving Sunland Incorporated peanut butter has affected brands at Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, and Target. Adam Curry points out the suspicious timing, noting that the Food Safety Modernization Act (FSMA) was supposed to prevent such outbreaks through mandatory facility registrations starting October 1, 2012. He highlights a red-bordered notice on the FDA website stating that these registrations are not being accepted, suggesting the outbreak is a "setup" for further regulation.

salmonella· peanut butter· sunland incorporated· food safety modernization act· fda· biosurveillance· trader joe's

2:04:52 uh... you will not know about this but it's happening everywhere apparently and uh... i have some questions that we can delve into and now the latest on the major recall of a staple in american kitchens peanut butter the recall is growing the centers for disease control was now confirmed at least thirty people in nineteen states were all second by salmonella most of them children and the clues are pointing investigators towards some well-known brand names, Trader Joe's, Whole Foods and Target. ABC's Steve Osanzami has more details What's especially frightening is that most of the people who've gotten sick from the recall peanut butter are children under the age of 10. I am concerned, because i love peanut butter You don't know what you're getting It's very scary This all began with one brand of sea salt peanut butter at Trader Joe's But The Recall has now cleared out peanut butter aisles At Kroger Whole Foods and Target

2:05:48 Investigators have traced the trouble to Sunland Incorporated, a peanut butter manufacturer in New Mexico that sells products in grocery stores across the country. So I'm listening to this and I'm like okay this is deja vu all over again We went through this exact scenario with salmonella, with peanut butter at a peanut butter factory and you will recall John that was the setup for the Food Safety Act of 2011. We discussed it ad nauseum on the show. They had all... It was, oh terrorists are going to get us! Oh we're all gonna die they're gonna put something in our food And so we had this act, actually it's the Food Safety Modernization Act known as the FSMA. It was signed into law by President Obama on January 4th 2011 and it was supposed to keep us safe

2:06:36 So all of a sudden now we have this exact same problem after this act was signed. We have in addition to that, don't eat the smoked salmon because the Dutch factory... hundreds of people have fallen ill due to E. coli in the Netherlands and some of that is here. We have the Canadian beef that has E. coli but don't eat your beef throw it all out! I'm like hold on a second what is going? We had a deal here the Food Safety Modernization Act. So I go to the webpage and this is very surprising to me The Food Safety Modernization Act, this is literally from the FDA. The Food Safety Modernization Act, the most sweeping reform of our food safety laws in more than 70 years was signed into law by President Obama...blahdy blahdy blah. And this was in 2011? January and what was supposed to happen- A year and a half ago now let me get this straight Well hold on no no bear with me I want you to listen Alright So I remember reading the Food Safety Modernization Act

2:07:38 And they always have all these stipulations, things that are supposed to happen. And part of the main things that were supposed to happen is that all food facilities had to get a registration and you know there's all kinds of new regulations they have to adhere too and that had to happen as per October 1st 2012 18 it's usually eighteen months yes that would make sense right So, I'm like wow! How can this be happening? I go to the FSMA website for the FDA and it says here they've got a big sticker on their website. Note, biennial registration renewal for food facilities will not be available on October 1 2012 we therefore will not be accepting food facility registration renewals at this time please check FDA's website and then they give the website of the page that i am actually on

2:08:38 There's no additional information, there is no reporting on this. They are not registering food facilities and we have all of a sudden all this E-coli over the place. Something is going on here and were not being told the truth in the media is definitely not looking into it In addition...in the Federal Register We have the notice of establishment of the Biosurveillance Advisory Committee John something coming down I can't put my finger on yet But there's a reason why the FDA has not adhered to the actual law that was signed and these companies are not getting registrations. There is this biosurveillance advisory committee all of sudden, and people are getting sick? This sounds like a big setup to me. Yep! That's what it sounds like. Have you... That's it as far we go Well I want you check out the fda.gov

2:09:38 Or just google the FSMA. And I want you to see this note that they've just stuck on their website. Okay? I want you to see how weird it is, because they're not giving an explanation they're just saying sorry and while you are doing that i'm going to play this little... I am looking at it now. Do you see how weird it is? It's a red border. Yeah don't you see isn't that weird?! To further accentuate

2:10:18 this, the food safety or the bio terror whatever is happening. This report from ABC has a six second sound bite of some douchebag Dr Robert Toks of the CDC and they just throw it in there and I want you to listen to it because it's total mind programming. All the illnesses that have been investigated are related to the peanut butter products from The One Plant Come on! That's mind control. Well that's a peculiar clip! Isn't that weird? Listen to it again All the illnesses that have been investigated are related to the peanut butter products from The One Plant I find something is weird with how he is saying that He might be on to something here, well it will resolve itself rather quickly Well what has not resolved is what happened to these companies having to register You're going to see something pop up

2:11:25 It just, I just haven't been able to find it. There's no reporting on it You'd think that if the FDA is not able to register food facilities that would be of interest to some journalistic institutions Yeah and they made such a big deal about when we had the first peanut butter poisoning So yeah there you go We have exactly the same scenario That goes in the red book as something to follow up on Yes please Hmm I'll just start looking at this and see what the hell the deal. I mean, I look for hours. I could not Scott couldn't Contradict me some UN thing it makes no sense. I was trying to find it You know there's just nothing this is the problem when you get this like an election any stupid idiotic debates It's like nothing is like the world stops as nothing else happening Oh, I'm sorry you got a coli and you died? I'm sorry oh well whatever

CHAPTER 23 / 27 Discussion

Elephantiasis Vaccine Campaign in Haiti

The United Nations is launching a mass drug administration campaign in Haiti to combat elephantiasis, a parasitic infection that causes extreme swelling of limbs and the scrotum. Adam Curry criticizes the international community's treatment of Haitians, whom he describes as "human pain cushions" for experimental vaccines and UN policies. He notes that despite high-profile fundraising by figures like George Clooney, many Haitians still live in tents and suffer from cholera.

haiti· elephantiasis· united nations· george clooney· bill clinton· cholera· vaccines

2:12:22 Like Haiti. The latest vaccine push in Haiti? Elephantitis! Yeah, you're kidding. No I'm not kidding. It's in tightness Yes What else they gonna experiment with on these people? I mean you got us there's a link in the show notes You gotta see these P is so sad and now they're lining them up Giving him vaccines for elephant Titus These people are just human pain cushions for the United Nations it's like first we give you an earthquake that is so terrible And then we give you cholera Then and we build a hotel which you're not gonna be in as well the douchebaggy leads hangout ie the Clintons Oh, and by the way have some elephant Titus I'm not kidding. This is really really bad Apparently elephant Titus also can go to your scrotum

2:13:19 Yeah, exactly. Really? Yeah! And you get a big giant... Yes! Hey! That sounds unpleasant. Well let me read the article here it says that leads to stigmatism. Yeah really. Here Haiti takes on dreaded disease one month at a time oh it's really horrible you see these pictures Oh and uh here's what Who says this? Mass drug administration is what they're going to apply. Mass drug administration, wow! I'm telling you so it's a parasitic infection called lymphatic filariasis

2:14:06 That apparently now is present in 80% of the country spread by mosquitoes in severe cases It leads to permanent swelling of an arm or leg that condition called elephantitis can be grotesque and life-changing In men, the worms can cause a swelling of the scrotum. That is even more stigmatizing Sorry, all right And that's our Haiti update everybody Yeah Brought to you by the George Clooney Clinton Foundation. Yeah, and George Clooney who you texted your $10 too isn't that great? Let me see... You sent ten dollars and they got cholera and elephantitis And they're still living in tents awesome! Don't send your blankets yeah We just need cash I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water Just send your cash All right whatcha got Johnny boy

CHAPTER 24 / 27 Discussion

Global Drone Proliferation and Autonomous Kill Decisions

Iran has unveiled the Shahed 129, an indigenous long-range drone, as reports indicate that 76 countries are now developing drone technology. The hosts discuss the Pentagon's push for autonomous drones that can make "ethical" kill decisions without human intervention. They argue that the public is being conditioned for this "drone world" through the legalization of self-driving Google cars and the expansion of drone bases in locations like Djibouti.

drones· iran· shahed 129· pentagon· autonomous weapons· jerry brown· google car· djibouti

2:15:03 Uh, well they caught me off guard a little bit there. Oh I got more if you want. I mean i've got a couple other things. Yeah give me one other one actually here's the amusing play the American Airlines clip. Okay...if I could find it oh no I can't find it what's it called? American Airlines No You don't have an American Airlines clip Keep looking No! I can look all you want I do not have American Airlines It would start with and A yes Well, I think it says something in front of it. I'm so sorry. No. I don't have American Airlines Okay what's what really a clip to me? Okay we have troops everywhere

2:15:54 Okay here I got two clips now this is interesting because the number This number showed up and then I heard another clip, and I said wait a minute This numbers not quite the same But it's very similar to this number that they brought him now. This is from the Glenn Beck new TV show Oh you're watching? This did just throw out some numbers And I play play it in there well get to the point what the troops everywhere oh yeah troops everywhere to tell you this is from mother jones so take it for what it's worth here but uh said last year the washington post reported and this is from 2011 so they're saying in 2010 last year the washington post reported that the u.s had deployed special operations forces in 75 countries from south america to central asia recently however us a special operations command spokesman

2:16:38 Colonel Tim nigh told mother Jones that on any given day America's elite true elite troop were working in about 70 countries and then the country's total by years end would be about 120 So I thought that was kind of interesting as 75 countries or ever so then I heard this other clip Which is days later, and by the way I want to mention to people that listen at our show is that we're the only people who would actually listen to Glenn Beck and Democracy Now! To try to coordinate some of these ideas. Play drones everywhere! Ooh my favorite

2:17:18 Finally, I wanted to ask you, Saranaki about international law and the message this sends to other countries. This news is just out today that Iran has unveiled what it says is a new indigenous long-range unmanned drone capable of flying over most of the Middle East. The Shahed 129 has a range of 1,240 miles and could be equipped with bombs and missiles according to Islamic Revolution Guards Corps Iran is one of an estimated 76 countries who now are developing or have drone technology. At the moment, US exports have been fairly restricted because of export controls although some government officials in the United States as well as drone manufacturers have been working very hard for last couple years

2:18:07 reduce those export controls. The Pentagon, it was just announced released information that some 66 countries would now be given permission to purchase drones from United States manufacturers. The proliferation we've been tracking it over the last couple of years and its increased rapidly the concerns from it are obvious But no other country uses drones to carry out strikes though, right? They're used mostly for surveillance. There's only been one unconfirmed report of another country carrying out a targeted killing by a drone strike and that was a reported strike in Egypt reportedly by Israel And when was that?

2:18:43 This year Okay, everybody's got a damn drone. I'm listening to these numbers. I'm thinking well I mean Beck's moaning about all these Overseas base are these bases all essentially because it matches the numbers on this report drones for drones? Yes That's what they are They're all basis for drones come on man we know this is what Djibouti was all about remember We tracked all that Djibouti Djibouti That's it. It's a drone base Hey, man Mickey says she swears She saw a drone flying over our house the other day she swears She saw and I've heard people in Texas say they've got the drone flying over Steiner Ranch so I can't wait to see if this is true and And this just in From as Jean France press the Pentagon we have the chief scientist for the US Air Force saying Quote it is

2:19:37 Not my belief that unmanned systems will be able to perfectly, be perfectly ethical in the battlefield but I'm convinced they can perform more ethically than human soldiers are capable of. This is of course in reference to autonomy of the drones so they can make a kill decision themselves and you could almost get ready to cross this off for the book, in The Red Book because it's happening They're going to make these things autonomous. We've been completely conditioned for the whole drone world Thank You Jerry Brown for signing into law the ability for Google cars to drive around without people Steering them we're not This is all conditioning that get us right and you love it don't you love the whole idea of the of the car that drives itself

2:20:21 I think so. Yeah, but let me go Let me ask a question about this with these two clips Do you think remember about two years ago? We're doing the show and there was that one drone That for some unknown reason even though it violated all its own programming went over and landed in Iran yeah You think that's the one day they would do you see they just said this is the way we sent them a drone that They could copy well he well here's the theory on that first of all It's this isn't making a drone is no big deal. I don't understand why everyone's making this out to be like some of those supersonic heavy technology It's not a big deal. No, it's not but they get it so it can be armed and fire accurately at a target That's kind of complicated disagree. I don't think that's hard at all

2:21:07 I don't know. And the theory on that is that they hijacked the GPS signal and they said, oh you're landing at your home base but of course it really wasn't their home base it was wherever else and our theory is we just sent it over there. Here take a look at this with a whole bunch of spy gear inside This is... why do you think they love it so much? We've removed human beings from the equation And they're cheap to make. You know, these drones cost a lot of... you gotta have 50 guys to run them but they love it! Oh man this is great This is the new big deal They're just gonna keep going with this forever and ever and they are cheap to make and everyone can have one flying all over the place How hard? You can build a drone in your garage These things are crap They got a propeller brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

2:22:05 Now the good ones make a lot of noise so they annoy people. Yeah, now this is maybe you did have one flying over the house Well she swear she saw it okay? So now I'm looking at my list of clips mm-hmm American Airlines. I don't have that one John. I'm really sorry I don't know. You said he had 17 clips. That's clip number two. No. I don't have it or read me the clips Will you just believe me? I don't have it Okay, 10 year 10 10 wide. Okay here we go 10 yj amendment did lair forget Romney's name You're right you don't have it because it should have been right there yeah, that's odd Oh, that's what your hand downloaded I mean well Let me let me take a look hold on a second It sounds like it's gonna be worth it now hold on well as an interesting clip Well, let me just check for a second cuz he's pretty funny Yeah

CHAPTER 25 / 27 Discussion

Oil Tax Breaks and Domestic Production Incentives

During the presidential debate, Barack Obama and Mitt Romney sparred over a $2.8 billion tax break for oil companies. Adam Curry clarifies that this is actually a broad manufacturing deduction (Section 199) that applies to any company producing goods in the U.S., including Apple and film studios. He criticizes both candidates and the media for misrepresenting the law as a specific subsidy for "Big Oil."

tax breaks· oil and gas· exxon mobil· apple· section 199· manufacturing· 2012 debate

2:23:01 You want to go back to the base? I do have the one good moment as a special clip One good moment. It's a M is spelled MPM ENT it says only good moment Do this is what I meant you think it's easy for me to produce this show Let me just let me just check your clips all in a second American Airlines, yes there it is for so well that's Downloading will play this one good moment set it up for me. That's a run. This is the only good moment in the entire debate getting help. Jim, let's... we've gone on a lot of topics there and so I'm going to take it's gonna take a minute to go from Medicaid schools oil to tax breaks and companies going overseas. Stop it stop it! Besides the fact this is another example of Larry losing he says Larry actually says to him go back to Medicaid

2:23:54 And he doesn't even pay any attention to them. One by one, first of all the Department of Energy has said the tax break for oil companies is 2.8 billion dollars a year and it's actually an accounting treatment as you know that's been in place for 100 years now time to end it and-and in one year what? You know that was like really?! Time to end it! Right, and the worst part about that is that he set himself up for what Romney had to say afterwards. It was dumb! You provided 90 billion dollars in breaks to the green energy world. Now I like green energy as well

2:24:30 But that's about 50 years worth of what oil and gas receives. And you say Exxon and Mobil, actually this $2.8 billion goes largely to small companies to drilling operators and so forth but if we get that tax rate from 35% down to 25%, why that 2.8 billion dollars is on the table? Of course it's on the table! That's probably not going to survive if you get that rate down to 25%. Yeah, and I'd like to point out that we dissected that entire tax break. And that tax break also goes to Apple! It goes to anyone who's producing anything in the United States and Apple does actually get some of that tax break because their assembly in the United States it is not just oil producers if you make television programs you get this uh... tax break if you make movies you get this tax break remember when went through the whole law John? The whole thing

2:25:19 It's bullcrap. No, it's bullshit is what it is! I'm sick and tired of people just... you know Romney and Obama both! It's bull crap! They're both liars. It is for anything produced in the United States not just for oil and gas there is a specific exemption for transmission of oil and gas but otherwise its for anything you produce in America Bull Crap That you play the pet peeve I will them damn it And these stupid idiots on television on the news they don't know any better They haven't taken that it's you know, it's so easy. You go into Google's and you say What's up with the tax breaks? And you find it and you go you copy and paste the actual US USC code and then you get the language is like one paragraph It's not hard to read and then you might actually be informing people

CHAPTER 26 / 27 Discussion

American Airlines Loose Seat Incidents and Sabotage Suspicions

Two American Airlines Boeing 757 flights were forced to make emergency landings after rows of passenger seats came loose from the floor during flight. While the airline cited a potential issue with seat tracking models, the hosts suspect "sabotage" related to ongoing labor disputes between the carrier and its unions. They note that the incidents occurred on flights bound for Miami from Boston and New York, prompting a fleet-wide inspection.

american airlines· boeing 757· loose seats· labor dispute· sabotage· maintenance· miami

2:26:15 Hey, by the way. Did you see the clip of that Russian guy who did last year's debate where he punched out the guy on the podium? Yeah. That should have happened at our place, you mean? Well it could've been a good idea and now we got the American Airlines clip. Set up! I think the labor unions are having a beef with American Airlines, or creating problems for the airlines which they're known to do. This problem is quite funny. It's happened a couple of times apparently but nobody in the news media kind of mentioned that there was a labor dispute but they never really bear down on the possibility that this is labor goofing around. It's called sabotage! Two American Airlines flights had to make emergency landings this week because an unusual problem

2:27:00 Seats that are coming loose during the flight. And as CBS 5 reporter Kristen Ayers explains, several jets are now grounded for inspection. Kristen? That's right Ken it is a terrifying mishap that has happened two times in three days on American Airlines flights and is just the latest blunder for a carrier under fire over host of labor issues Roger, uh... Is that an unusual one for you? A bizarre breakdown on board American Airlines flight 685 Saturday. Passenger seats row 12 D, E and F came loose out of the floor

2:27:35 Passengers are unable to sit in that seat. You heard that right, a row of three seats suddenly unbolted from the floor of the plane We don't know what kind of turbulence we have The seat is loose and we don't want that thing flying around and hurting the passengers behind us The plane was bound for Miami from Boston, but the pilots were forced to turn the aircraft around for an emergency landing in New York But that wasn't the end it happened again today seats on a New York to Miami plane came loose this time forcing another emergency landing. In a statement, American said an internal investigation has indicated that there could be a possible issue with the certain model of seats and how they fit into the tracking used to secure the seats. American has decided to proactively re-inspect 8757 Yeah you know I think it's actually the maintenance contract that is under review or the engineers isn't not?

2:28:32 Yeah, something like that. And both these flights were going to Miami which I thought was odd and one out of Boston and one out in New York this is bullcrap there's somebody just coming in there and okay I gotta take a look at some here they go loosen the bolts Just loosen them up exactly! And there they go hey there's another one Yeah, I love it. This has never happened before in the as far as i know ever so now It's happening and so they got to look at all the 757s please now And it's also one of these things that you know when it comes to aviation Seats are a pretty big deal You know keeping them

2:29:10 Keeping them secured to the fuselage as it were. It's actually you know That that's a pretty good construction going on there now when when there's an event or something nasty happens They are supposed to break free Which, you know? You probably don't want to know is a passenger Because you know you wind up getting your legs cut off and stuff But particularly upfront I mean these things are locked down so this is not just like this doesn't just happen This is not just, uh... And I think American Fly's mainly Boeing? Yeah these are 757s so they're Boeing planes. You know and the Boeing engineers There's all kinds of Union stuff in here They're A-holes! Stop messing with the passengers! Stop it! Sick and tired of ya So all i've got left is the end of show clip if you want to hear it By the way If you say no to this one I will not be in the least upset

CHAPTER 27 / 27 Discussion

Iranian Rial Devaluation and Official Exchange Rates

The Iranian Rial has reportedly dropped 40% in value in a single week, leading to protests and shop closures at Tehran's Grand Bazaar. Adam Curry critiques a CNBC World report where the journalist claimed she could not show a currency chart because the "official rate" was "malarkey." The hosts discuss how sanctions are driving inflation in Iran and attempt to find the real-time exchange rate using Wolfram Alpha before signing off.

iranian rial· cnbc world· currency devaluation· sanctions· tehran grand bazaar· malarkey· wolfram alpha

2:30:15 Well, let me play one last clip and I want you to explain something to me. Did you not do a show with Horowitz? I didn't see anything come through. Did you miss one? No, it was...I had to go...Tuesday I couldn't do it because I was traveling up to here and then Wednesday I was going to do it yesterday but then I got this Obama crap that I had to watch the debate so I put it off we're gonna do next Tuesday Okay, so you actually sacrificed the other show for this show That's appreciated! I did! Yeah, I know you did So I'm listening to this about the Iranian, what is it? Peso. What is their monetary unit? Dinar? Peso? It's like a dinar maybe. Let me take a look! No, it's something else...it's like a zloty... Too bad you can't hear the bird now. He's making a duck sound. He does duck. That's great. Well let me see if I have this clip here

2:31:15 I want you to listen to this and tell me what's bogative about it. I think this was CNBC, I think it was the UK version. There is a new video out today as you say the real, the Iranian currency has fallen... Ah! The Real there we go sorry its the Real not the peso although I think they should consider switching to the peso. ...40% in one week so wait a minute so I'm hearing that the Real has dropped 40 percent in one week But now listen to what the reporter says about this and what she can and can't show you. Let's show this video that we're talking about, this is from Tehran's Grand Bazaar these are merchants in that bazar saying shut down your shops they are angry because their currency has fluctuated so much it's incredibly difficult to do business imagine buying inventory at one price level and then what do you do week later when the change is so dramatic? We believe that riot police went in stopped

2:32:08 this protest. There are some photos out there, we're trying to authenticate them and at the same time have shut down long tolerated but illegal money traders on the black market. We cannot show you a chart of the Iranian currency because the charts we have reflect the official rate." Hello? We can't show you a chart because that's the official rate. "...which is malarkey let's show you a full screen though what has happened..." But it's malarkey Now wait a minute, I don't understand. She's saying that the currency has dropped 40% but they can't show you a chart because that is not the official number? Is she just making this up? No what network was this? CNBC World CNBC World? Well they have a... if you've ever been to one of their CNBC operations it's quite interesting because they have a bank of chart guys

2:33:06 that are, I mean there's like 20 of them and they're all doing charts in real time as people discussing things. They'll say well caterpillars had a real bad time... But this is foreign exchange! ...and the caterpillar chart shows up just exactly what they're talking about and these aren't prepared these are done on-the-fly by crew yeah of real fat you know guys who know how to do graphics TV but this is this is a foreign exchange product this is not you know this is their talking about The real, they're saying it's down 40% but not according to the official numbers. Then what numbers are they looking at? I don't understand

2:33:43 Well, what I don't understand is why they didn't just phony up a chart. Let's listen again there is more to it. We have a chart of the Iranian currency because the charts we have reflect the official rate which is malarkey. Let me show you full screen though That's a good word by the way Malarkey. We have to use Malarkey more. I used it in my writing. I'm going look this up What has happened with the price of the Iranian currency? Over the last year in January one dollar cost you ten thousand reals one week ago a dollar cost you twenty four thousand reals Yesterday, so what one week later thirty five thousand five hundred reales dramatic dramatic change So why doesn't she just show that this is she's showing this on the screen. She's got the chiron there You have to help me explain Understand why they can't show the official rate because apparently it's not down 40% She's just making this up

2:34:36 Well, there's a couple of things at play here and I think the story is bogatyr for... listen to what my take on this is. This is like when the peso gets devalued by 2-1 to the dollar nothing changes in Mexico You know, when you see this happen anywhere. It's like all of a sudden the pesos worth half as many dollars down 50%. But when you're in Mexico, you're spending pay the same amount of pesos to buy something that's typical with foreign exchange because the Chinese won goes up or down or the Japanese yen goes up or down and making the price of a Toyota go from 30 thousand to 35 thousand same car

2:35:28 That doesn't mean that you pay more for milk. Uh-huh Right? Right So why are the people at the bazaar all bent out of shape, that's the question first thing comes to mind Well listen to the rest of report maybe it helps This obviously causes a lot of tension and problems within the country. Why is this happening? Because of sanctions, they cannot sell oil A, they can't bring in dollars so the supply of dollars in the country has dropped dramatically Additionally because of the sanctions they can't import goods So imported goods not only are in short supply The money to buy them with it's also problematic You get double whammy on price They're suffering inflation And then if you really want to do something dumb

2:36:11 you do something like Ahmad Jinnah did yesterday, he went on national television and begged people not to exchange the currency. What does any average central banker know? When you go on television and beg people to have confidence in the currency what does it mean that they have no confidence in the currency right? So I think this is just exactly what she said this is a confidence move Just to either say hey our sanctions on Iran are successful or Trying to hype the currency down But do they use dollars all of a sudden on this in the central market and Tehran? This no, I don't think they do

2:36:53 But anyway, it just annoyed me to no end that she's sitting there saying we can't show you the... I mean, I'm looking up Bloomberg. I can't find the real anywhere on the chart. I'm sure it exists middle well i think what triggered your reaction was that that we can show you some right moment but would trigger my reaction to the peace being bogus is that there's a fact that these people in the market were all upset when it has been doing import export at their general markets they are of hookers Maybe export. Let me just, if I just Google and say dollar to rial... Okay here it is one US dollar oh that's Saudi Rials Iranian Rials jeez to Iran Rial let see you know sometimes google can give you some very helpful information

2:37:51 Uh, no. No results. Okay! Thanks. How about Wolfram- Alpha Wolfram? Wolfram Alpha Why don't you wolfram that okay You get on that tip and I will get ready to post produce the show Tell me about your ender show clip John It's the end of the debate is the two minutes each side had to say what they had to say At the very end of the debate and then that was the end of the whole thing. Oh, no I mean it's too guy. I don't know when you I'm it says I think it's boring You might want to not even yeah No, I think it's boring too

2:38:27 You know what I really liked? You know what I really liked, which I wish you had gotten a clip of and I didn't get a clip either but when Romney was like he did that whole patriotic rant. That was awesome! Remember that yeah he did this whole patriotic thing about you know This is the country where you can be free and we protect the freedoms And did you see that it was off the chart now? I liked it. That was good For a douchebag Anyway, everybody. We're breaking up badly soon. Yeah we are all right so coming to you from the District of Columbia That's right. I'm in Obama's backyard today In the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry although Obama is never there and here up in the Pacific Northwest at the Compound I'm John C. Dvorak will be back on Sunday once again from DC right here on no agenda

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