Episode 443 · Thursday, 13 September 2012

Bad Actors

A tragic consulate attack in Libya and a push for European federalism reveal the high-stakes maneuvers of global actors during a volatile election season.

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About this episode

Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans died during a coordinated assault on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11, 2012. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and President Barack Obama initially attributed the violence to the inflammatory film trailer Innocence of Muslims, though evidence suggests the consulate served as a critical intelligence hub. The death of Sean Smith, a diplomat and prominent EVE Online strategist known as Vile Rat, further highlights the operational nature of the compound.

Mustafa Shagour secured the Libyan Prime Ministership following a sudden runoff shift immediately after the attack, while Senators John McCain and Joe Lieberman issued statements reinforcing interventionist policies. In the United Kingdom, Channel 4 cancelled the documentary Islam: The Untold Story after historian Tom Holland received security threats. Meanwhile, the German Constitutional Court approved the European Stability Mechanism, granting the fund legal immunity and a 190-billion-euro cap. European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso faced a sharp rebuke from Nigel Farage in Strasbourg after calling for a Federation of Nation States to pool continental sovereignty.

Susan Lindauer detailed her experience with chemical lobotomies via Haldol under the Patriot Act, while whistleblower Matt Bissonette revealed special forces' reliance on Ambien in his book No Easy Day. The program also acknowledges the knighting of Sir Richard Fowler and the generous support of executive producer Dwayne Melanson. A mysterious stench across Los Angeles, attributed to a fish die-off at the Salton Sea, provided a surreal backdrop to the week's geopolitical shifts.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

Benghazi Consulate Attack, Ambassador Chris Stevens Death

Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed during an assault on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11, 2012. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and President Barack Obama initially attributed the violence to an inflammatory internet movie trailer. Analysis of official statements suggests the State Department may have been caught off guard by a failed intelligence operation or a pre-planned attack rather than a spontaneous protest.

chris stevens· benghazi· libya· hillary clinton· barack obama· state department· bbc

00:00 it's not enough and it will do nothing. Ready for a bad acting revolution here in the capital of the drone star state, it's Austin Tejas in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm contemplating baking a cake with a fish in it, I'm John C. DeMora. You know that's that's just like David Letterman where he'll start the show off with something and you have no idea what he's talking about and you'll never know because you weren't in the audience at warm-up. Yeah, I know he does it almost every show. Yeah. Yeah, he makes some reference to Iowa. There's something in the audience cracking up. Yeah, it was so funny. So funny.

00:53 Hey, uh, boy, I'm- I'm very worried. Now he's gone and done it, John. It's- it's finally happened. We have finally shown the rest of the world that we do have really, really shitty movie production, and boy are they pissed. They're- hey, wait a minute! Where's- Have you seen that thing? Yes, of course! Where's Angelina Jolie? Wait a minute, hold on a second! The most important thing! I mean, this is- this is- this is why everyone's angry.

01:29 They're like, what the hell are you guys doing? This is not your normal movie propaganda. This sucks. Yes, I have seen, in case you're listening to this sometime in the future. Which is more likely than not nowadays. Yeah, we are referring to the uprising of anger against the United States of Gitmo Nation for a really, really bad movie. Which I think it's just a trailer. It's a trend. Did you see the trailer? No, I couldn't find it. Oh really now you're kidding me. No, I saw it. I actually pulled some some quotes from it. I'm like We've got to play some of this I think we need to write off the bad just look at the evidence that we have and Look at where this is coming from because one thing we know it's not no well actually explain what you're talking about to begin with which is the assassination of

02:26 Ambassador well see that's interesting that you already put it that way you say it's an assassination of an ambassador as if this was a predetermined setup to kill the ambassador in Libya so here oh I oh did I say it that way that's exactly how you said it you said it that way well let's before we go well you go on with your analysis but a couple of things I want to make I think we have evidence and then we have analysis. I think there's a lot of things going on here and if anything October came early this year that's for sure. Well, you know I have a couple of... well go ahead, go ahead with what you're saying and let me get... I have to download my clips into my... just talk, sorry. Okay.

03:14 Talk, sorry. Talk, talk, talk. This monkey boy will jump and dance for you now. Talk, monkey boy. I'm dancing, I'm dancing. Okay, so here's what happened. On September 11th, for those of you who don't know, all of a sudden we had all kinds of things taking place, primarily two embassies, one in Cairo and one in Libya. Embassy, by the way, is kind of a big word for the building that is... Compounds, yeah. It's not even a compound. And I think ambassador may also be a really big word. And what winds up happening is that we have all kinds of people angry in Cairo and yelling and shouting in front of the embassy, not anything new, but then the quote-unquote embassy in the unprotected embassy, I might add, in Libya is burned and the ambassador dies. Still very unclear exactly what happened.

04:06 along with a, I love this, senior chief intelligence professional or whatever his title is, i.e. spy. That's when you're an information, you're a spy. And then two other undefined people. So all very, very unclear what exactly happened. There was not a lot of real response. Then all of a sudden everyone starts talking about this. And I guess what really got everyone's attention is when President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton came out and started talking about it. And they immediately

04:47 attributed this to a movie trailer on the interwebs called Innocence of Muslims and I think what I should do because we have to look at evidence first of the empirical facts that we have in the way of sound clips and then I think we can start to analyze it. Here's Lucifer I'm sorry, Hillary Clinton, and she, in her statement yesterday where she is eulogizing the ambassador to Libya, she references this movie. We are working to determine the precise motivations and methods of those who carried out this assault.

05:30 Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior along with the protest that took place at our embassy in Cairo yesterday as a response to inflammatory material posted on the internet. Now the way she said this John, leads me to believe that she was not involved in it. Because she's saying some will believe, she's... I don't... I'm pretty sure that that the... this cover story of The movie posted on the internet, the trailer, did not come from the State Department. Just listening to what she's saying there, what do you think? I, uh, well actually I noticed this about her, this whole episode, she is extremely annoyed. Yes. As if whatever, in fact I have a clip where she's annoyed and then, the BBC is

06:23 I don't know what their involvement is. Well, their partner is ABC. That's what they keep saying. Our partner in America, ABC. That's like, oh, OK, I got some bells ringing there. But Clinton seemed as if she was really mad about this. So whatever scheme she had afoot, if there was any, this wasn't it. Correct. And so she was angry, so I would assume, and she was, I mean, steaming angry. What's your BBC thing? I want to hear it. I got a couple of funny BBC things. One of them is, since we're on the topic, the tidbit, because apparently people aren't getting the big picture here. So let's drop in a tidbit when we do our tease for the story which is the BBC report on Ambassador has tidbit for you idiots. A tidbit? By the way what is the etymology of tidbit? Is this like a small bit of a tid?

07:15 No American ambassador has been killed in the line of duty since 1979. But today the flags have been put at half-mast here in honor of Chris Stevens. The US ambassador to Libya and three other diplomats were killed in a raid on the American consulate in Benghazi. The White House is investigating whether the attack was planned and President Obama has promised to bring the killers to justice. Our Middle East editor, Jeremy Booth. Yes, so the tidbit of course is a throwback to 1979 and this of course was the Reagan hostage situation, am I correct? Carter. Carter. Carter. But right, but then Reagan came in and saved the day. Yeah, in 81.

07:55 Right, but the hostages... The guy was killed in 79 and then they had... if you remember... here's a... here's... people don't... nobody remembers... This is the October surprise. This is why... The October surprise took place... well actually it was longer than an October surprise. It took place a year earlier and they grabbed American hostages and they kept them for damn... maybe over a year and ABC Nightline with Frank Reynolds had decided to make this stupid blunder of we are going to cover this every day until it's resolved and they went on to like this is day 306 and so the show was ruined. Nightline was ruined and they had to bring in Ted Koppel and get rid of Reynolds because this stupid idea of doing this. So it went on forever and then they finally got the hostages out and then the October surprise was actually us getting them out

08:47 I think Carter tried to get him out and the whole thing is that Reagan and people that I'm familiar with held back on the rescue. They said, hey guys, hold on to them a little bit. We're going to get Reagan in. Boom yes, that's that's the that's the theory scenario. That's the very last minute by the way the weather one which is Hillary moaning about this situation I thought the BBC was a little I've just another little small clip, but it's a little bit of a side note But it's Hillary is being teased it is another teaser and then they jumped to a tease of some other topic that I thought the juxtaposition of these two stories

09:33 uh... was a bit uh... with the black uh... taste ambassador this happened in a country we helped liberate in a city we helped save from destruction for being gay a BBC investigation well it's so funny because that was actually my next clip is this is exactly this today many americans are asking indeed i asked myself How could this happen?

10:08 How could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction? Well, it's not because you're gay, although I think the juxtaposition, as you said, is very funny. Maybe this will ring a bell. Unconfirmed, yes. We came, we saw, he died. Maybe that would be, maybe, I don't know. I mean, that could have something to do with it. It's just a thought there. Just a thought. I don't think so. Good dig. Not bad, huh? Get that one out of the archives. Had to get it out pretty quickly. So very, very, very interesting. There's all these really weird

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

Sean Smith, EVE Online Gamer Vile Rat

Information management professional Sean Smith, who died in the Benghazi attack, was a prominent figure in the EVE Online gaming community known as Vile Rat. Reports indicate Smith was actively logged into the multiplayer game and messaging other players about gunfire at the compound when the siege began. His dual role as a diplomat and a high-level digital strategist suggests the consulate served as a significant intelligence hub.

sean smith· vile rat· eve online· benghazi· cia· multiplayer gaming

10:54 Facts surrounding this so I I think we both agreed it Hillary had nothing to do with this Who this is a real amateur real real amateur job? whoever decided to make this attack about This movie because the things been out there since July you know there's no guy who even exists and the whole it's just a really really really bad movie I think called what was it desert something or other and Hold on. It's very specious, it's very sketchy that this movie would have anything to do with this assassination. I think it may be an intelligence war going on between the intelligence agencies. Many people in the diplomatic corps, you had an intelligence guy killed in this attack and the ambassador himself I would suspect is probably CIA.

11:49 Hello, you know, I mean if you listen to actually have a clip that gets his background and you can really tell that He's I think he was even at Berkeley. I mean, yeah, they went to Cal Berkeley if you remember that is our Go-to skies a spy school. Well, here's the the other guy the intelligence official Sean Smith uh... he this is a great review, I think this is also from the BBC Sean Smith was a husband and father of two, he's not MSNBC served with the State Department for a decade have been stationed all over the world this is how he looked in real life

12:27 but this is how he looked in his other life. See, Sean Smith was known as Vile Rat, an influential online gamer. Even the guy's laughing at you, he's dead and you're laughing on the news. Laughing at a dead guy? Geez. In a cyber community with almost half a million members. This is how Smith kicked back. It's how he relaxed in the middle of a political powder keg in Benghazi. The game is called EVE Online. It's a massive multiplayer game that lets thousands of people from all over the world interact in real time. Despite the wicked sounding name, Vile Rat was a diplomat for one of the game's biggest alliances. So he's a guy who loved his job so much that when he went home at night, he turned on his computer. This, by the way, is bullcrap. He was actually playing the game when the attack occurred, according to reports I've seen from people who are on this.

13:19 this multiplayer game site where he actually started typing, oops, I've got gunfire, gotta go. The guy was always playing the game. Well, he may have been using it as an intelligence source. Thank you. And did it all again virtually. In fact, Vialrat was gaming when the consulate came under siege. He wrote, quote, a speech. He didn't go home to kick back and relax. He's gaming at work. Assuming we don't die tonight. We saw one of our police guard the compound taking pictures. Within hours of making that joke in the cyber world. Okay, so I'm with you. I mean, this was a huge spy operation. But I don't know if it was necessarily intelligence.

14:01 because the two well I'm just saying the gaming thing I mean it's a no that's totally yes and I can't believe that MBS NBC would just I mean they they're so shallow with their with their analysis it's ludicrous well vile rat I mean you don't even see the humor in that name but here's the Here's the real question. So if I look at this, what I think what probably happened in the reverse or you know, we know that in Cairo in Egypt They're all angry. They were like yelling for Hillary Clinton to go. I mean, you can just turn on the camera and you can say, oh, now we have people angry outside the embassy. Probably almost any embassy that we have, there's always going to be someone who's pissed off at us. Remember when Hillary Clinton went to meet Morsi and there were people screaming, Clinton, get out. We hate you. Go away. I mean, this is not like a big deal. I think the Libyan thing

CHAPTER 03 / 36 Discussion

Libyan Prime Minister Election, Mustafa Shagour Appointment

Mustafa Shagour was elected Prime Minister of Libya on September 12, 2012, following a sudden shift in runoff votes immediately after the Benghazi attack. Shagour, a former U.S.-based researcher with ties to NASA and the Department of Defense, replaced Mahmoud Jibril in a move that suggests a changing of the guard within Libyan leadership. Senators John McCain and Joe Lieberman issued statements supporting the interventionist path despite the tragic loss of Ambassador Stevens.

mustafa shagour· mahmoud jibril· john mccain· joe lieberman· libya· nasa

13:19 this multiplayer game site where he actually started typing, oops, I've got gunfire, gotta go. The guy was always playing the game. Well, he may have been using it as an intelligence source. Thank you. And did it all again virtually. In fact, Vialrat was gaming when the consulate came under siege. He wrote, quote, a speech. He didn't go home to kick back and relax. He's gaming at work. Assuming we don't die tonight. We saw one of our police guard the compound taking pictures. Within hours of making that joke in the cyber world. Okay, so I'm with you. I mean, this was a huge spy operation. But I don't know if it was necessarily intelligence.

14:01 because the two well I'm just saying the gaming thing I mean it's a no that's totally yes and I can't believe that MBS NBC would just I mean they they're so shallow with their with their analysis it's ludicrous well vile rat I mean you don't even see the humor in that name but here's the Here's the real question. So if I look at this, what I think what probably happened in the reverse or you know, we know that in Cairo in Egypt They're all angry. They were like yelling for Hillary Clinton to go. I mean, you can just turn on the camera and you can say, oh, now we have people angry outside the embassy. Probably almost any embassy that we have, there's always going to be someone who's pissed off at us. Remember when Hillary Clinton went to meet Morsi and there were people screaming, Clinton, get out. We hate you. Go away. I mean, this is not like a big deal. I think the Libyan thing

14:59 Something else happened there and I believe it was probably Department of Defense But more than likely military industrial complex because the two douchebags who immediately came out and had something to say with it are the main guys when it comes to Libya and we know that we've had some problems in Libya, you know, like we you know It hasn't been as quiet as we wanted it to be By the Chinese are trying to so we're trying to sneak in and they built a refinery and then right down, right? So so what did we really need to have happen? Well the breaking news report, of course, thanks. Good evening everyone There was breaking news tonight American warships and US Marines on the move drones airborne and what appeared We got ships and Marines on the moves we got we got drones airborne whoo-hoo baby we're coming down to Libya I think we needed a reason to be there. I

15:54 We needed to get in and I have one little piece of information which no one has discussed. We're not going to kill our own people to do that. No, I don't think they meant to kill these guys. I don't think but the attack was planned. It was, you know, some rebel group that was used, you know, whoever that just, you know, they just took the money. Okay, let's back up a second and then reanalyze this. with that in mind. Let's say it was a false flag, it was an attempted assassination, they weren't supposed to kill anybody and they screwed it up and these guys died and that's why Hillary was mad. Well, yeah, yes, because they killed one of her dudes. This was not the idea. Here's the thing that no one has discussed at all. On September 11th, it was the first runoff vote for the Prime Minister

16:46 Libya and the guy who was in was Mamoud Jibril remember this Jibril Jibril jabroni that we've got a real jabroni right so he Beats in the first round the way they do it in multiple rounds in the first round he beat his competitor shag or with 86 to 55 votes then all of a sudden this happens and And then the next day, on September 12th, Shagour beats the guy and he is now the new Prime Minister of Libya. No one has talked about this. Of course, Mustafa Shagour, very interesting guy. He was born in Libya and then he went back to the States to get his PhD.

17:32 and received multiple research awards and grants from NASA, NSF, Department of Defense, FAA. And then he went back in 2011 and now all of a sudden he's Prime Minister after something happens, huge change, he was behind 86 to 55 votes and now he beats it with 96 votes. This I think is where something was taking place. They needed to get the old guy out because he wasn't performing his duties, it wasn't happening. You know, we weren't able to get all of our... Yeah, put our guy in. And we had big... And you know what? You know whose guy it is? I'll tell you whose guy it is. It's McCain's guy and Lieberman's guy. Oh, those two. Oh yeah. You wanna hear what McCain... He had a whole eulogy on the floor. A whole eulogy about him.

18:21 I kept in touch with him often and frequently after my visit. I was very happy when President Obama nominated him to be America's ambassador to the new Libya. The last time I saw Chris Stevens was shortly after he had taken up his post during my most recent visit to Tripoli. I especially remember the lighter moments we spent together, including when Chris insisted on personally making me a cappuccino, a task that he carried out with as much pride and proficiency as his diplomatic mission. This is the comparison John McCain makes. This is... This is McCain at his best. The disdain for a dead guy to say he made his cappuccinos the way he did his job is just unbelievable. Just unbelievable. That was on the morning of July 7th.

19:19 The day Libyans voted in their first election in half a century. That's what really tipped me off to it is that McCain is thinking about the elections and these of course were the previous elections and I think that we really needed something to be stirred up and maybe Our buddy here, the cappuccino maker, just wasn't, you know, he was, you know, maybe because he's on Hillary's team and Jabril was Hillary's guy, they had to remove everything and the message was clear. You know, you're out, you're out, we're taking you out, everyone's out, we have a whole new changing of the guards.

19:55 So if it was CIA or Department of Defense or Military Industrial Complex, I'm not quite sure, but it was definitely a big FU to the State Department. I think we've pretty much established that. You want to hear Lieberman? I love hearing it. By the way, I have a clip. I want to play a little Lieberman clip. When he talked, I have the clip of him where he sounds plastered. Should we play that first? Let's hear him plastered and see if it was the same when he was on the floor. I asked the question, is he plastered? You can play it and tell me what you think. President Obama, to become our ambassador to Tripoli after the Qaddafi regime fell.

20:33 This is also why his death at the hand of violent extremists in Benghazi, which was the seat of the revolution against Gaddafi, is so tragic and infuriating. No, I don't think he's... No. I think he's... No, he's on some kind of mild antidepressant maybe. But I don't think he's plastered. The fact is that the people who killed Chris Stevens yesterday in Benghazi do not represent the people of Libya or their elected leadership. Uh-huh. No, they represent some agency or some a-holes that you work for. These killings require confronting the extremist minority

21:20 that imperils this future, the fanatics who want a clash of civilizations between Muslims and the West. It's real war mongering, Muslims, extreme Islam. He's not using the words, but he's really saying, hey, we got to go after all that. I think that a lot of this was just like, we got to get some military movement going. We got to get some stuff happening. We got to get stuff going on. And who will try to justify their violence in the name of Islam. They're wrong.

21:59 They are mistaken. They are on the wrong side of history. And finally, let me come back home and say, to echo what Senator McCain has said, that I know there will be some here in our country who, in the wake of this attack, will be tempted to argue that it shows that America's support for the Libyan revolution was naive or mistaken, that the Arab Spring will ultimately be defined not by a desire for democracy and freedom among the people of the Middle East and Arab world, but by the dark fanaticism of al-qaeda and its associates and the united states should give up trying to support people in this part of the world instead of and instead retrench back here at home maybe he was a little plastered yeah i sound a little plastered the funny thing is

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

Hillary Clinton, Innocence of Muslims Video Response

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton delivered a formal address condemning the "Innocence of Muslims" video as disgusting and reprehensible while maintaining that the U.S. government had no involvement in its production. She emphasized the American constitutional tradition of free expression but noted global debates regarding the limits of speech. The administration continues to use the video as the primary explanation for unrest in Cairo and Benghazi to distract from potential operational failures.

hillary clinton· innocence of muslims· free speech· constitution· religious tolerance

22:50 By the way, the wrong side of history is a Marxist-Leninist... Well, Hillary says it all, she uses it all the time. Yeah, and it comes from Karl Marx, I think it's in one of his books, I mean, JC was... Oh, really? Yeah, it's a Marxist-Leninist meme. Oh, cool. Well, surprise, surprise. So Hillary was actually on this morning. I don't know if you saw that. I mean, I was real bummed out because I was recording it and I came back. I went to the bathroom, came back and the recording was like ruined. It didn't record on my DVR. But luckily, you know, after like 30 minutes, finally someone put it up online. Now she went back and now she's really playing up this fake movie angle. And this was surprising to me.

23:37 It appears to me that perhaps someone said, you know what, you got to keep this story alive or we're going to do more. Have a listen. Tell me what you think. I also want to take a moment to address the video circulating on the internet that has led to these protests. See, now very different story. Yesterday, some say, today, it has led to this. In a number of countries. Let me state very clearly, and I hope it is obvious, that the United States government had absolutely nothing to do with this video. Does she really feel that was necessary to say that?

24:25 I'm wondering what that's all about. And she used the absolutely thing which is always, always a tell. Yeah, absolutely, it's clearly, it's you know, whatever. Absolutely. We absolutely reject. Twice. We absolutely. Absolutely reject. Content and message. America's commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation and As you know, we are home to people of all religions. This is like another minute and a half, but it's very important we listen to it. I enjoy listening to her. Sometimes I just do it before I go to bed. I just put on a little Hillary tape and snooze. Many of whom came to this country seeking

25:16 the right to exercise their own religion. Did you see her by the way? She's got now she got her hair completely pulled back and she's in her It's a whole different mode for her. She had a whole bunch of bracelets that are jingling jangling This stuff is important. This is all thought about including of course millions of Muslims and we have the greatest respect for people of faith and To us, to me personally, this video is disgusting and reprehensible. Interesting. To us, to me personally. Do you think that she meant to replace the to us or just as an addition? Play it again. Can you play that little section again? Yeah. I wasn't sure if she was saying to us, I mean to me personally, or just in addition. People of faith, to us, to me personally,

26:13 This video is disgusting and reprehensible. What do you think? I don't think it was a flub. You think she was just adding on? She may have said to us, may have been the line, and then she re-emphasized it. She said to me personally, that's what I think. What she meant was to me and Houma. To us, I have a mouse in my pocket. It appears to have a deeply cynical purpose to denigrate a great religion and to provoke rage. Yeah, about the incredibly bad acting in this is not provoking rage. All right. Here comes something curious, though. But as I said yesterday, there is no justification, none at all, for responding to this video with violence.

27:10 We condemn the violence that has resulted in the strongest terms and we greatly appreciate that many Muslims in the United States and around the world have spoken out on this issue. Violence, we believe, has no place in religion and is no way to honor religion. Now here it comes. Our country does have a long tradition of free expression which is enshrined in our Constitution and our law. And we do not stop individual citizens from expressing their views no matter how distasteful

27:53 they may be. Okay, so far so good. I think we need to rein that in a bit, Hillary. There are of course different views around the world about the outer limits of free speech and free expression. But there should be no debate about the simple proposition that violence in response to speech is not acceptable. I don't know. I don't know. I think she was pushed out to do this. Well, here's the way I would see it now, listening more and more to it. This was a failed operation of some sort. No one was meant to die. I don't think the ambassador was meant to die. Definitely not. This guy, if you look at his background and all he's done and everything about him, he is way too valuable an asset to lose. It was like losing a $10-20 million asset. Like a rook.

28:49 Yeah, so he so that which made her angry during the first part of this and now they have to have a cover story So people don't start really looking into this. So let's stick with this video thing. It's the best we've got Yeah as a bogus excuse for what happened And so but Hillary already kind of screwed that up so she had to come out and make good do it again That's exactly so she's exactly right She came out and she's back on the track and they and then it to make things even more distracting Let's get this Cairo thing cranked up. Mm-hmm So people are looking at what's going on there because let's do you know, this is the distraction of the week style Oh, yeah, well, let's distract people and by this Cairo demonstration and then get off the

29:27 anyone really looking into what happened here because this wasn't uh this was not how it was meant to go down and meanwhile of course they're bringing in this these ships like why i mean if they if they had if they had which i believe may have been one of the things they tried to do which was to kidnap group of people Play the whole thing over exact the exact same script is what you're saying Yeah, use that same script kidnap them and then you have the excuse to bring in the ships right? But you killed them but there's no reason to bring in the ships now. But they're bringing them in anyway, so what are we going to do? Let's distract everybody, and so we don't know if they're bringing in a bunch of ships and drones and God knows what, for no apparent reason. There's no reason to do that. I tell you what, let's go to the videotape, let's check in on Cairo. Has the Egyptian government condemned this attack on the United States Embassy?

30:22 It's funny the Egyptian government's response here and it has not been one that I think has been very pleasing to many US officials. The US, if you remember, Washington had a fabulous relation with President Mubarak, so close that many Egyptians were very upset about that. Right now, the Muslim Brotherhood, not speaking exactly for the president, but the new Egyptian president is from the Muslim Brotherhood, says it is calling for demonstrations against denouncing religion or in sort of a... I think the message is, uh... What?

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

2012 Presidential Election, Clinton Political Strategy

Speculation regarding the 2012 presidential election suggests that the Clinton family may benefit politically if Mitt Romney defeats Barack Obama, potentially clearing a path for a 2016 run. The current unrest in the Middle East has shifted the national conversation from the domestic economy to foreign policy, forcing the Obama administration to manage a complex international crisis during the campaign's final stretch.

mitt romney· barack obama· hillary clinton· bill clinton· 2012 election· october surprise

31:00 We did against the pro debate is against the pro demonstrations against the positive negative I don't know what he's saying. It's complete is like the like what this was this wasn't this was not in this where's the where's the where's the kid? Who wrote this? Yeah? Where's the kid John? I let's just summarize because I think you know this is why people tune into our show early on I think we've nailed it so the point was And this was, so we agree this is not a Hillary move. And of course Hillary doesn't want Obama to win because she wants a Republican in and she'd love to have idiot Mitt Romney in to screw it all up so she can come in 2016 on her white horse. Right, I would say that that's probably, I think between Bill and Hillary,

31:47 I have to you have to believe that that's what they're that's what they're going for. They can get because they've had they had this happen George Bush Senior was only in for one term and he didn't really screw up that much No, he just didn't have his plan for the for the re-election. And he's done a Japanese guy, but besides that I think that was kind of a bad thing Yeah, it was good. And so he was in for one term and out. And being the ex-head of the CIA, you'd think he'd have a little better shot at it. He'd have something lined up. Exactly. So he's done. And so they know it's possible to get a guy in for one term where they could drive him out like they did Nixon. But they know it's possible. So it's better for Hillary

32:28 Because Hillary hasn't got a prayer if Obama if let's assume that the cycle theory and everything's correct the economy goes into the toilet Stays there. We're not just assuming we're believers John. Well. I am yeah, I'm a blue. She is Toast in 2016. Yeah, but if Romney gets in and all his big talk He doesn't do anything and they can point their fingers as I was just another George Bush. Don't do it They'll be carrying her in like she's the Queen Sheba. Yeah, so she has to be for Romney winning Absolutely, of course, so that's so she was not of course. She was not kept in the loop I think I really like you or not convinced of that by the way that she wasn't in the loop and

33:09 Because if they're gonna do an October surprise, they're gonna get kidnapped hostages No, why wouldn't she be in the why wouldn't she want to be it's have something to do with that? Because because this is coming from the Obama administration Or whoever is running the show and they want Obama reelected. They want to they want to roll the script they want to they want to play the 1979 Carter Reagan script and So we gotta go and kidnap somebody. We've got McCain and Lieberman, they're like, hey, hey, come to our neighborhood. We got everything all set up. But the thing is when it happened in 79, it got the other guy in office, unless you're thinking that Obama's trying to kill his own re-election. No, no, no, hold on a second. Hold on a second. I don't... It's not exactly the same scenario, but of course if we could... Listen.

34:01 Before this happened, it was all about the economy, about jobs. We needed something dramatic to change the news cycle. It had to change. It had to move away from the failure in this country to something that the president can handle. So by changing this immediately to foreign policy, making Romney look like an a-hole, which I'm I'm almost convinced this is all in the script. Hey man, you come out early and say something really stupid. Okay, alright, I'll do that. And then we'll come out and we'll make you look even stupider. You know, it's like it makes so much sense that if we can have some hostages... Alright, okay, let's just go. We have the fleet ready. We don't have... I mean, we have at least we know something's screwy about this whole thing, unlike everybody else apparently. Well, the thing that I like is that we had the fleet ready, the drones are in the air, Marines are on the move, and we were coming in and now they're just off the coast going like, oh, well no, boof. Because of course you're right, there's nothing left to do.

CHAPTER 06 / 36 Discussion

Desert Warrior Production, Innocence of Muslims Dubbing

The film "Innocence of Muslims," originally titled "Desert Warrior," is a low-budget production featuring amateur acting and obvious green-screen effects. Analysis of the footage reveals that inflammatory dialogue regarding the Prophet Muhammad was overdubbed using automated dialogue replacement (ADR) long after the original filming. The technical quality suggests the project was repurposed by amateur agitators rather than professional intelligence agencies.

desert warrior· innocence of muslims· prophet muhammad· adr· green screen

35:03 The only thing now is now that they've brought Hillary back in, I just wonder because now you know now of course you actually have people going around to embassies going like, hey screw you America, which may not be groovy. You know some I don't know if anything will happen or if it could come of it but it's botched. Definitely only botched whatever it was do you know just cuz I have them can we just play some? Cuz no one is playing anything from that movie. I just have like a couple short little bits from it alright, so this is now it was called desert warrior and You know they've already tracked down one of the actors in the movie who actually has it on her IMDB probably displaying desert warrior

35:45 And the whole it was just a really, really, really crappy bad movie. Actors literally in a green screen room that they projected the desert onto it. You see like tire tracks everywhere. This is just hilarious to watch. But all of the horrible things that are being said about the Prophet Muhammad Etc is all overdubbed in a completely different voice So this movie was not made with this in mind. They just just someone just went hey I still got this really crappy movie Let's just overdub some stuff and which could have happened yesterday translated to Arabic and was shipped over supposedly I mean how did that happen so quick? So here's a couple of choice bits Clips from the movie why do they do that?

36:28 Oh, this is very funny. So here's a father and his daughter and he is trying to explain that man plus, and he has a whiteboard in his living room, that man plus radical Muslim, which is overdubbed, Equals death or some crap like that and he's writing something entirely different on his whiteboard But you can hear the difference in the audio. So bad and radical Muslim have been together since the beginning and radical Muslim. That kind of thing. It's not as good in this one that's in the next clip But this is the first one where you can hear her ambient sound and then we're gonna go to him. It's completely different Why do they do that?

37:06 to protect Islamic crimes. It gets better, it gets better. Police committed fraud upon the Christians. They could save thousands of lives and billions of dollars of taxpayers' money. We're off to the white bit. Man plus X equals Islamic terrorist. Do you hear it? Man plus X equals Islamic terrorist. Islamic terrorist minus X equals man.

37:44 It's literally like I'm sitting here and saying, you know, I really love homosexual men and Completely putting it in there. It's so freaking obvious. Here's another one Muhammad is Allah messenger and the Quran is our Constitution So that's a bit where the guy is saying something completely different Just, I mean, the lips aren't even in sync and you can hear the first bit before it and then we move into this Allah thing. Muhammad is Allah messenger and the Quran is our constitution. And then here's my favorite one where they dubbed in the prophet being gay. Daughter shall have the stars.

38:35 Is your Mohammed a child molester? My daughter's been a child and he's 55 years old. He's 53, not 55. And he has wealth and power. My daughter shall be his bride whether he say yes or no. He's the messenger of God. Gay? Yes, it is. And Omar also. And I love the echo effect! He said that? Yes he is and Omar also? Yeah. That's it in there? Yeah. It sounds like it does. Oh, that's terrible. Yeah, this is bullcrap. This has been rigged. I know you think, but listen to... You know how when you... Not even a good job. I mean, this is rigged by an amateur. No, it's a horrible job because... If it was done by the agency or somebody in Washington that knew what they were doing, or Hollywood for that matter, it would have been slicker. This is why I'm saying it's a huge amateur job. Whoever did this is probably, if not fired, dead.

39:34 But just listen to the echo effect they're trying to end the sentence with. It's really, really funny because the echo continues all the way through the next piece of dialogue. My daughter shall be his bride whether he say yes or no. Is the messenger of God gay? Yes, he is. And Omar also. Didn't know Omar was gay. My goodness. That is the worst. Isn't it amazing? Isn't it amazing? Of course, no one will ever play this for you on the real radio. On the real, you know, just here in our little play... On the corporate media, you mean? No, no, real. This is, uh... We're here at PlaySchool. This is just our little, our little, you know... We're not real. We're not real media, you see. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, that's good, isn't it? And the whole... And I showed it to Mickey. And Mickey's like, were these guys SAG? SAG.

40:38 We gotta find these people. They're in LA, you know they are. Oh yeah, totally. Some cheap production. We gotta find them. So anyway, so definitely gotta get a hold of the sound guy. Oh, no, but you know, this is all ADR. They all did this after the fact. This is just a really, really, this is, this is a 10,000. This is, this is like a first year AFI student movie, you know, and then you fail and you get it. Don't even get a passing grade for it. That's how bad it is. And you know, and then this whole concocted story of $5 million and Israeli businessman, I mean,

41:16 What what what entity John could come up with such a flimsy story yet is powerful enough to force Secretary of State Clinton to go out and corroborate it the next day. What? I mean that has to be military money. I don't see it being intelligence. I just don't because she knows how to fight those guys, you know, and they're not that stupid. They wouldn't do it that they would they wouldn't do it. You're right. They would have a hell of a lot better job than this. This is mediocre. It's not me. Probably also is anger, sir. This is what you're going to try to sell us? The public? Well, God, maybe they won't, you know, let's take it off the net, whatever you do, so nobody actually looks at it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that can definitely be a reason why she's angry as well. But I'm just thinking, who could be that powerful? I only think, this to me has McCain all over it. You know, this is the kind of stuff McCain would do. That is good enough, they're stupid.

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

Islam: The Untold Story, Channel 4 Documentary Cancellation

Channel 4 in the United Kingdom cancelled a scheduled screening of the documentary "Islam: The Untold Story" following security threats against historian Tom Holland. The film explores the lack of written historical records regarding the origins of Islam outside of the Quran. The cancellation coincided with the global protests surrounding the "Innocence of Muslims" trailer, highlighting increasing tensions over media portrayals of religious history.

channel 4· tom holland· islam· muhammad· quran· united kingdom

42:15 Yeah, I'm not gonna argue about that. So that is definitely behind something so that would mean military industrial complex You know it's probably some one of these one of these contractors, and they subcontracted it out. Don't want yeah Here's the way to figure out who it was let's wait we wait about four or five six months and we just keep watching her Iraq and I'm sorry, Libya, and then we see what? Big contract was just filed and who got it who got the money somebody's gonna get a lot of money. That's the guy That's the guy that would be him and the crazy thing is that on September 11th channel 4 in the UK cancelled airing

43:05 a And I can see, and of course they didn't air it because they received threats from the Islamic community. And this was like a real, you know, there was real money in this. You know, the guy traveled and he's trying to find the history of Islam and Muhammad and he goes to the holy city and he goes to Mecca. And you know, it was a real, and it was a very interesting document. I don't want to get too much into the content of it because it was like, wow, it was very strange.

43:51 You know basically saying that you know this Muhammad thing. You know there's no written history except for the Quran. There's nothing else There's no tablets. There's no no other books nothing and they cancelled it for security reasons um It's called the untold story because when you when you hit the the Google you get a novel by Monica some the untold story of Hong Kong crime thriller with Anthony Wong and I just like no references to this thing I According to Taylor, who is the... I guess he produced it, media coverage was a factor in whipping up, quote, a false storm of protest over the program, which she described as a good bit of history. So, you know, they could have used, and maybe they intended to, but they could have used an actually a really good program.

44:48 But I guess because you know they didn't have America's here is here is boy. This is Barry to this I mean really buried The story behind cancelled UK is a UK documentary yes, yes, yes, China Suggesting Islamism made up religion by some historian Tom Holland who looks like a a I have to see this guy's picture. Hey, you just went Helium on me. Yeah, sorry. Hey, hang on. Yeah, it's alright. Don't worry. I have all kinds of good stuff to play. In fact, let me bring out Omar again because that's just my favorite. Daughter shall have the stars. Is your Mohammed a child molester? Our daughter's been a child and he's 55 years old. He's 53, not 55.

45:38 And he has wealth. And what, by the way... Hold on, John. I want to hear Omar again. Can you hear me? We've heard Omar twice. No. Yeah, I can hear you. Okay. What is the point of making the... of the voice 53, not 55? What is the point? There's some historical reference. Probably must be an argument or something. Yeah, probably like, you know, just more stuff. And the whole thing is bogatyr. Who knows? Who knows? Yes, so this channel 4 documentary they pulled that on the same day that this one all of a sudden ramps up and gets some coverage. The documentary though, I saw it. You can bit torrent it. The untold story? It's pretty good.

46:24 I have no idea if it's true or not. The guy is basically saying when the Arabs took over Israel, or when they moved in initially, no one knew what their religion was and there's no documentation. That's kind of the premise. It's like all of a sudden 100 years after Muhammad lived, that's when everything appeared, the Quran, etc. I don't know. I don't know. But it was nicely made. It wasn't a piece of crap like this. So I don't know if that was part of it, if they decided not to use that, but there was definitely a little skirmish and then that got pulled. The thing is definitely somewhat suppressed, obviously. Yeah.

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

Twitter Harassment, Australian Rugby Star Robbie Farah

New South Wales Premier Barry O'Farrell called for a federal police investigation into a series of offensive tweets directed at rugby league player Robbie Farah. The incident has sparked a broader debate in Australia regarding the legal consequences of internet trolling and cyberbullying. Simultaneously, television programs like "The X Factor" are incorporating anti-bullying narratives into their seasonal themes.

robbie farah· barry o'farrell· twitter· cyberbullying· australia· x factor

47:10 This was running in Al Arabian News. It's the only reference I can find to it. So yeah, so the guy was threatened on Twitter. Welcome to the new modern age. Oh, would you? You know, this is really big. Let's just move right away from this topic. This is now happening in Australia. This is how we go with being threatened on Twitter, everybody. The New South Wales Premier says he'll call on the federal police to investigate a vile Twitter attack aimed at rugby league star Robbie. So hold on, the violent Twitter attack? Oh yeah, wait, it gets better.

47:49 Last night the West Tigers captain was targeted by an internet troll. Trolls? Who posted sickening sexually explicit tweets about Farrah's mother. Like your mother wears army boots. Who passed away in June. Premier Barry O'Farrell has thrown his support behind the player saying it shouldn't matter who the target is, it is completely unacceptable and that he wants to work with the federal police to stop it. So now if you say something nasty, like your mother wears army boots, then the federal police might come after you. Oh yeah, be very, very good. We were watching X Factor last night. They kicked off the season and they had a huge bullying thing on the show. It was so well done, John.

48:47 You know this girl Demi. She's like a Disney kid and she was bullied and she started that whole stay strong movement about bullying And so I don't have any clips or anything and so this girl gets up on stage and then she says, you know I love you as a judge because I had the same tattoo and I was bullied and then she sang her song and she was crying and Simon Cowell's crying Everyone's crying and she was strong and she showed the bullies. It was really like wow, man They really laid it on thick although I will say it was kind of cool that they didn't, you know, like, you know, we had, it was basically you can beat bullies by being better than them. So that was kind of a good message, but it was clearly a setup. It's really interesting what's going on in television these days. Uh, I mean, if I was, if we had just switched roles and I had just did what you did, uh, or done what you did, I would be, you as me would excoriate. I don't see why you're watching this crap.

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

The New Normal, NBC Sitcom Stereotypes

The NBC sitcom "The New Normal" features Ellen Barkin as a bigoted grandmother reacting to a gay couple using her granddaughter as a surrogate. While the show relies on heavy stereotyping of homosexual relationships, it attempts to use Archie Bunker-style humor to address social dynamics. Critics note the production's reliance on exaggerated tropes common in network television comedies.

the new normal· nbc· ellen barkin· sitcom· stereotypes

49:51 No, you wouldn't because it's not honey boo boo and I introduced honey boo boo to the staff at me beyo and I did watch the new normal and by the way it's here comes honey boo yeah well there's a honey boo boo ban here on the show I did watch the new normal you brought it up I brought I watched the new normal did you watch the new normal You forgot to watch the new normal I did oh, and I even texted you ah I even texted you I said remember to watch the new normal tonight, so you can kill yourself. You didn't get that text message Well, I'm still alive Apparently not so uh Did you get some clips no I cuz I thought I was convinced you'd have the clip. Oh, I can't believe it

50:42 I don't know why I didn't I've screwed up. Oh, man. That's really bad. Well. It'll be on again next week so let me know it No, I think it will let me just tell you this I have a few weeks There's something I really like about it Let me and I'll explain the Ellen Barkin plays in this and she plays the bigoted crazy white lady who hates everything but she says it and And this is what I like about the show. So she's literally like talking about the two gay guys who are going to have a child with her granddaughter, surrogate. She's like, what is this salami smoking hut I'm in? And she's like, I just landed in a gay and black sandwich soup. She's just like rolling out one after another. Yeah, the Archie bunker revisited. Perfect. And it's great.

51:34 That I love! It's great. What's up with these salami smokers? I mean, really? That's on primetime. This is good. Yeah. I mean, the show is ridiculously horrible. Completely stereotyping of any male homosexual relationship. I mean, like right down to everything. Completely stereotyped. What network is this on? I think it's NBC, I think. Oh, that was a loser. NBC. They're the worst. Yeah, but anyways, we better thank our executive producers before we get before because we're Wow. Yeah, we are we have pushed it. Well, we had to get to the important news and I know our executive producers will appreciate that we do that. So we have one do three executive producers and one associate.

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Executive Producer Credits, Richard Fowler and Dwayne Melanson

Richard Fowler from South Carolina and Sir Dwayne Melanson from Oregon are recognized as executive producers for their significant financial contributions. Melanson's donation of $444.44 commemorates the upcoming 444th episode of the program. The hosts acknowledge the support of these donors in maintaining the show's independent deconstruction of political events.

richard fowler· dwayne melanson· executive producer· donation· oregon

52:22 and first executive producer is Richard Fowler from Aiken, South Carolina and we looked and looked and looked, BeerGeek is uh... is uh... is one of his emails and came in as an instant night with 10-6969. Whoa! So I think that counts. Well hold on, I think we have a... I mean counts as a swazzle-off? I think it does, yeah. We have a... So he's kind of a two-two-fer. That's your super schwoz enough. So he's a two-fer, came in with a thousand for a night, plus a 69-69, and no comment. Now that's impossible. How can there be no comment from him? Well, I know, you know sometimes not everybody has to have these long-winded comments. No offense to the long-winded commenters.

53:13 That's true. I'm just going to look and like this idea of no long winded comment. Just rolling straight straight. It's obvious the comment he's making his point right there. He's saying I meant to do 69 69 but my finger slipped on the keyboard. And then we have 444.44 which is a double producership for Sir Dwayne Melanson in Tegard, Oregon. Wow. In the morning, sir Dwayne here still working on earning the barony of Oregon and getting very frustrated with the BS politics in this country and you guys keep me sane. Thanks to your excellent deconstruction, especially lately around the conventions and other political tomfoolery. Congratulations on the five years of hitting people in the mouth AK-47 and generic handguns to the max, baby.

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

3D Printed Guns, Open Source Weaponry

The emergence of 3D printing technology has effectively bypassed traditional gun control measures by allowing individuals to print functional firearm components using open-source code. While current plastic materials limit the durability of these weapons, the availability of the digital blueprints makes it nearly impossible for governments to regulate production. This shift represents a fundamental challenge to existing firearm legislation and manufacturing monopolies.

3d printing· gun control· open source· ak-47· manufacturing

54:05 And it's a four four four four four which is just awesome though. We'd sent this out in the I guess you sent it on the newsletter Yes, of course we have episode four four four four coming up on Sunday So this is great, and it's a four is a very nice rounded number. I And by the way, since he mentions AK-47, we should, one of the topics we haven't really talked about too much in depth on the show, but we probably are going to get around to it, which is the laughable destruction of any potential for gun control as long as there's these 3D printers which can now actually print a gun. Yeah.

54:43 And there's been a number of guns and the great thing is that most of the gun code, the code that you put into the printer to print the gun, is public domain. Yeah, open source, it's out there. It's open source. So you can print now, now of course you'd need different kinds of materials so you can get a gun so you can fire it more than three times before it blows up. But that's all covered by many of these systems. So you can do it, I mean you can print a gun now. And that means what you can't stop it. It's over. This gun control thing is done. People just print. What happened? I got to print myself a gun. Well, not only that, but it's going to even ammo is going to be relatively simple.

55:23 Yeah, ammo's a little harder to print because you need to print gunpowder. But to manufacture it's just not all that hard anymore. Anyways, we'll make this a topic of discussion in a future show so people know that we're on it. Sir Douglas Gerrull, or Gerald, G-E-R-U-L-L Boulder, Colorado, Boulder. Boulder. 444. Nice. John's recent thank you to the Knights made me embarrassed. I have not contributed in a while. Why this and other donations from Knights, Aaron, which by the way we forgot to say hello today. We haven't done it yet, don't worry. We haven't done our in the morning greetings, don't we? We will, we'll get to it in a moment. Aaron, is an unintended consequence or even an intended what good move

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

Listener Donations, Doug Gerull and Felix Cornici

Donors Doug Gerull and Felix Cornici are thanked for their contributions and requests for "karma" to assist with personal projects and family life. Cornici credits previous donations with improving his domestic situation, emphasizing the value of the show's community-driven funding model. The hosts perform "de-douching" rituals for listeners returning to the fold after periods of non-contribution.

doug gerull· felix cornici· karma· connecticut· colorado

56:06 I will stay old-school with the request and ask for a de-douching for listening and not donating and for any other transgressions I've been oblivious to a shot of karma towards helping a great deal helping close a deal on a project next week would be that I've been chasing for a while it also be great also thanks to you both for the good work I sincerely hope Adam is right there right that there are moon bases and Mars bases however I will continue to take some small pleasure in monitoring Curiosity's progress just in case Adam is indeed crazy at times and not faking it. Cheers from Doug.

56:44 Gerule. Gerule. Gerule. Gerule. Oh, gerule. Gerule. Gerule. Alright, de-douching and karma. I'm sorry, that was for you, I didn't mean that. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. You know what's happening is, it's now been two weeks since we stopped smoking and now my eyesight has improved but now it's gone the other direction so now I have- now it's like- now I have to- You gotta back up. I gotta- yes, I gotta adjust the glasses the other way. So, sorry. It's what it is. And finally, Felix Cornici in Farmingham, Connecticut, $200. No agenda, episode 440, I asked for karma from my wife. It worked! Hey! The best investment I ever made. Forget the 401k and pension plans for everybody out there. Go with karma and keep the show running. Awesome. I love that. Whatever it means.

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Community, Eclipse Curry Annotation Tool

A new community-developed tool at eclipsecurry.com allows users to annotate and skip to specific segments of podcast episodes, fulfilling a long-standing request for better navigation. Meanwhile, news reports indicate that protests against U.S. interests are spreading to Yemen and Iran. Media outlets like CNN are criticized for using pre-prepared graphics and "lower thirds" that anticipate official government narratives.

eclipse curry· annotation· crowdsourcing· middle east· cnn

57:38 So let us say right now, John, in the morning to you. In the morning to you, Adam Curry, in the morning to all ships that see boots on the ground, subs in the water, and to all the knights out there who listen religiously to our show and support us in a big way and have formed a rather large club, I'd say. Yeah, for sure. In the morning, of course to all of the human resources who we see once again lined up charged up ready to go in our chatroom no agenda stream calm no agenda chat net and Thank you to hero protagonist for the artwork on our previous episode love to see your contributions at no agenda art generator calm and We do have one PR thing that one of our

58:21 One of our producers is working on it's not really ready for prime time, but it's it's something I think will really is what it's one of these things that everyone's always bitching about and he finally went and made it Go to eclipse curry calm John for a minute and and check out now you know This is what he's done is he has a system where he takes an episode. This is episode 440 and you can just annotate it and And then you can skip to any bit in the stream to that particular part of the show. And this is something that people have always said, oh it'd be great if we could do that, and no one's ever done it, and he went ahead and did it. Yeah, I knew this would happen. Sorry, I should've...

59:11 Thought about the fact that when you're downloading audio you go not just helium. You're now in uber oompa loompa mode All right, so we appreciate that initiative. Looks like we have some authoring tools for that coming out very soon. Thank you very much to our executive producers, our 444 club members, and of course our associate executive producer. Without you, we could not get it done at all. Remember, you need to go to... Devorac.org slash N-A. And of course, there's always, always, always our formula which needs to be propagated. Our formula is this. We go out.

1:00:02 We hit people in the mouth. Shut up, Swayze. Alright, are you back? Wow. I thought you'd at least be back by now. Darn. Alright. Well, what do we do now? Yes, I can hear you. Can you hear me? Hello, Obi-Wan Kenobi. Can you hear me now? Yes, I can hear you. Hello? Why do we have this effect now? What did you say? What have you been doing what? You can't hear me? Say it again and you cut out.

1:01:06 I've been using this exact same rig for almost five, as of next month, for five years with no changes. I take it back the first year and a half I didn't use the PR40 mic and I had a preamp but after that it's still the same rig. So what's changed? And why would you be blaming my rig when nothing's really changed for years instead of blaming the real problem which is Skype and Microsoft? Okay. Easy does it. Skype and Microsoft, yeah? It's cool. It's cool. Skype and Microsoft. You know, usually when someone says, I've had this for five years, it's time to upgrade something. There's nothing needing upgrading. It works great until just like about two months ago when, you know, I upgraded my Skype. No. I think we already determined that this is not Skype, that it... because what have you upgraded more than Skype?

1:02:01 I can tell you what you've upgraded more than Skype. No, you can't. Firefox. Oh. Yeah. Firefox? How about, um, oh gee, Adobe? I'm not so quick to blame Skype on this. Okay, you make a good point, especially the Adobe, that crappy, that miserable, every day, weekly update of Adobe's Flash. I should just pull it off the system. Exactly. Breaking news, John! Breaking news here this early Thursday morning. We have Iran, Yemen, Egypt and Libya. We're talking about all four this morning. New clashes now.

1:02:40 anger it's really spreading throughout the Middle East in the overnight hours CNN reporting mobs of protesters outside the Swiss Embassy in Tehran Iran which handles US interests there and at the US embassies in Sanaa that is the the capital of Yemen and of course in Cairo in Egypt that's right they hate us they hate us because they want better acting Wow yeah that's breaking news breaking news let me see let me just look over here Breaking news breaking news, you know, you know what? I think I'm just looking at here us warships move toward Libya us promise I think you're just yeah, we may have got to move on from the topic But you're so right because now, you know, the president still had kind of had that script, you know We'll get whoever is responsible You know, they this whole thing was ready the lower third I can see CNN had the lower thirds ready to go. We'll get whoever's responsible it's My goodness, I'm telling you

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

Susan Lindauer, Haldol and Chemical Lobotomies

Whistleblower Susan Lindauer describes being held without trial under the Patriot Act and facing government attempts to forcibly medicate her with Haldol, Ativan, and Prozac. Lindauer characterizes Haldol as a "chemical lobotomy" that induces Parkinson's-like symptoms, rendering a person unable to speak, write, or process information. The drug is frequently used in prison systems to manage non-compliant inmates.

susan lindauer· haldol· patriot act· fbi· carswell air force base

1:03:36 I like it when they roll the lower third before somebody says something. Yeah, oh yeah, like that, like yeah, I know I've seen that a couple times or they have the the captions so and so says even though they're about to say it. I got some interesting drug PR which yeah, so you kind of got me on this Haldol thing. Got me really interested in it. It's the gift that keeps keeps on giving it really is and Now if I recall correctly you read about this from it was at Susan Lindauer who was the the whistleblower? She was a translator. I believe and she I've read her book. I think she was a yeah, she's like a very big critic of a bunch of stuff going on she's on a lot of talk shows and

1:04:24 Anyway, yeah, she said that they threatened her. They jailed her for no reason under terrorist charges Right and then threatening held all her and she knew that would be bad and so she shut up until she got out well I read her book, which I have to say was pretty poorly written. I don't know if it was self-published or something. You know, a lot of mistakes in it. So rush job for sure. But here is one of her interviews where she talks about HowlDoll. And of course, we already went through the, you know, I'm still looking for someone to send me some HowlDoll because now I'm really, really interested in it.

1:05:02 Thirty days after I requested to testify, I woke to hear the FBI pounding on my front door with an arrest warrant, and I was arrested on the Patriot Act. I was the second non-Arab American arrested on the Patriot Act, subjected to secret charges. Were you tortured? I was locked up in prison on Carswell Air Force Base. I was held for five, I was under indictment for five years with no trial. I was held, when I was locked up in prison, the government declared that I was not competent to stand trial and they requested permission to forcibly drug me

1:05:46 Here it comes. Now write this down, because this is what I want to try. With Haldol, Ativan, and Prozac. Can we get that combo, John? Do you think we can get the Haldol, Ativan, and Prozac as a perfect combo? Who can we use to do the show if you've been zombified? Listen to what actually happens to you just on the Howl Doll. She goes into a great... it's a commercial. For all of you who are fortunate enough not to know what Howl Doll is, she's got the chemical lobotomy. Howdell imitates the effects of Parkinson's disease so that it has the effect of making you like a statue. You cannot walk or speak, you cannot write, you cannot read, you cannot process information. You are essentially a drooling statue and you can't wash, bathe yourself.

1:06:41 It's a horrible, horrible... I need to try this! Send me some Haldol! I mean, it's a commercially available product. Now, but they're prescribing... They're prescribing this... Wait, they're prescribing this for Tourette's syndrome. I'm legit... I'm just gonna go to the doctor. I'm just saying, I need some Haldol. I hear it's what I need. You know, I can't wait. I mean, this sounds great. I'm a drooling... Better find out how long it takes to wear off. And it's reserved in prisons for the most... for what it's supposed to be reserved in prison. Nah, she doesn't say how long. No, I mean, I'll do it after a Sunday show so we'll at least have, you know, it shouldn't last more than four days. You know, up until the next show. Please. I'm not bathing you anymore, Adam.

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

No Easy Day, Ambien Pharmaceutical PR

The book "No Easy Day" by former Navy SEAL Matt Bissonette contains references to the use of Ambien by special forces during the mission to kill Osama bin Laden. Media coverage on CNN, featuring Erin Burnett, has been characterized as an embedded commercial for the sleep aid, discussing specific dosages and timing for travelers. Critics argue the segment serves as pharmaceutical PR disguised as military reporting.

matt bissonette· navy seals· ambien· cnn· erin burnett· pharmaceutical

1:07:39 All I have to do is just hit one button. Devorak.org slash N-A-V-A-R-K. This next bit of drug PR was beautiful. So we have this Navy Seal. You might have seen him on... did you see the 60 Minutes interview? Oh, you know, I have it. I've taped it. I watched part of it. I was gonna sit down and actually deconstruct it and pull out some clips. I haven't done so. Okay. Now, it's... I don't know if it's really worth it. You know, the host is like, ugh. You know, it's just... whatever. I don't think the guy is real. I don't think the story is real. You know, they couldn't put out the...

1:08:18 the Navy SEAL movies so they had to... it's just like, oh let's just make it real. Make it like it really happened. I wouldn't argue that that's a possibility. But in order to finance this, because you know it's a lot to get a book going, I'm pretty sure that the pharmaceutical industry is involved. Now this is probably Because you're going to hear Erin Burnett, Burnet as we like to call her here in Texas. She is going to mention some things in the book and this whole segment is a commercial not just for Ambien but how to actually use Ambien.

1:09:00 But the reason it's in the book may be because you know because the chemical for Ambien is out of patent and Lunesta I think is probably the US competitor, but just listen to the PR. There's no doubt in my mind This is a commercial former Navy SEAL Matt Bissonette is on the top of the best-seller list now for this book No easy day he's one of the seals who killed Osama bin Laden and in the there was this revelation the SEALS team used Ambien to function. Bissonette wrote and I quote him. Did you hear Bissonette wrote? Did she just say Bissonette wrote? That's what it sounds like. Ambien to function. Bissonette wrote and I quote him. He wrote. He wrote. Back off on the Haldol Burnett. Bissonette wrote. I popped two Ambien. My head was still cloudy from Ambien. It took me three times to get out.

1:09:52 In his account, Bissonnette took at least six ambience between the time he left the United States for the raid and the return flight from Pakistan, which is less than a week later. Always two at a time. Military psychiatrist Dr. Elspeth Ritchie is out front tonight. So now we bring in the doctor who's the expert on, notice she's already said two at a time now. Dr. Ritchie, I think a lot of people were surprised when they heard this. Let me just... No one was surprised, no one gives a cr- it's such an obscure reference in this book that he popped a couple Ambien and was groggy. I'll ask you this question, does this surprise you? Is this, um, the Ambien use seems to be so commonplace?

1:10:31 Ambien use is fairly commonplace but in short dosages and short periods of time it's often used both in the civilian world and the military to have people be able to sleep on the long plane rides. It's a great drug! So that when they get to where they're going they are awake. awake and refreshed. Isn't it awesome? It gets better though because now we're gonna get into how much Ambien you should actually take. This is horrible. This is great. The fact that apparently he was still groggy after taking the Ambien, that is a surprise because he should have taken it

1:11:10 earlier, it should have worn off and he should have been at full function. Because it's a great drug, he just didn't do it right. He was saying in fact in his book he said both he and the other seals were taking Ambien two at a time. Two at a time! You're not supposed to do that according to the manufacturer. Ah, wait, hold on a second. You trying to be critical of our pharma commercial here? I'll set you straight, Burnett. And he also said, specifically on this case, that the day he flew to Pakistan, he tried to get through a gate that was locked with a combination lock and he had to re-enter the code three times because he was so groggy from the ambient. Well, Ambien is used for people to get to sleep. It wears off fairly quickly, but it will make you sleepy. Now, I don't know about the two at a time because Ambien comes in 5 milligrams and 10 milligrams. I'm not sure how much he actually took, but it does sound like that he was taking it too close

1:12:04 to the time that he needed to be able to function. Now, I'll tell you, it's always a challenge and it's something the military wrestles with. How do you get people to sleep across these time zones or when they get to a new place and have them be awake and refreshed when they get there? It's not easy. Any traveler can tell you that. That's right. And any traveler should just take Ambien. Wow, this is just dreadful that they would do this. Isn't that amazing? Yeah, this is for travelers, people who travel, or maybe you're going to go on vacation, your wife or husband's always moaning and groaning about the fact that you can't get jet lagged. Let's get some ambient. Look, look, military uses it. Military uses it, SEALs use it. We could change the packaging. Great job on the two at a time comeback.

1:12:49 Oh yeah. It comes in fives, that would be two at a time. It comes in five and ten milligrams. You just have to take it on time so that you have enough time to wake up. You didn't do it right. Yeah. Now approved. What is this lock gate combination? How did they know there was a... How'd they know the combination A? And then B? I thought they just flew into the yard and ran up the stairs. This whole thing is... No, this is the... So the whole... This is why I know it's a commercial. Is because you know when he went over to Pakistan he just it's in the book He's like, you know pop to ambient went to sleep and then when he came back after the raid he was you know, obviously he's he's amped he's hyped, you know, he's Whatever and he couldn't get out of a combination lock because he had took too many ambience or whatever. He hadn't done it, right? But it's it's it's like a throwaway in the book and it's now being highlighted for the commercial yeah, and

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

Benjamin Netanyahu, Obama Administration Tensions

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is reportedly in a state of high tension with the Obama administration over "red lines" regarding Iran's nuclear program. Reports suggest the White House pressured Israel to avoid a preemptive strike before the U.S. election to prevent an oil crisis. Netanyahu's increasingly harsh rhetoric is viewed by some analysts as a form of coordination with the Mitt Romney campaign.

benjamin netanyahu· barack obama· amy goodman· mitt romney· iran

1:13:47 I'd say it's a pretty effective commercial. I'm looking at this. I'm like oh no I mean if you don't notice it's a commercial and you're being Suckered yeah by CNN because it's an embedded commercial mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, it's a great ad pretty good, huh? Yeah Talking about somebody taking ambient So I caught Amy Goodman. Wake up John. Wake up, wake up. I caught Amy Goodman. I think they had the gun, the confusion gun pointed at her. Oh no. So I caught, first there was this one, play clip number two first. Oh, that makes sense. Because I actually produced this one a little bit so you can hear. I always thought it was Benjamin Netanyahu. Not Ben blah blah Netanyahu.

1:14:35 So just play this and hear your pronunciation. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been claiming to be in talks with the US on setting a red line for Iran's nuclear program. Benjamin Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu... Okay, now I have clip one which was the most amazing clip I've ever heard of this woman and this is not edited She makes the exact same weight. She makes the exact same mistake twice and it sounds like this You're losing an appeal of a controversial country true controversial country Conviction that many have compared to a political witch hunt and you think it's funny when I talk about pussy riot And now you have to like bring this one out. I

1:15:21 Lady gang, come on one more time. I heard it. Oh, it's hilarious. For losing an appeal of a controversial conviction that many have compared to a political witch hunt. Hey, you know, it's not easy, you know? It's hard. Go easy on her. Go easy on her. Benet... Benet... Benet... Benet... Benet... Well, this whole Benet and Yahoo thing is, I have to say, is there's a lot of crap going on with this. and the, let me see if I can find it here, the insider over there at Ulsterman. I haven't caught up with that. Yeah, so you remember when Netanyahu was visiting with President Obama and he was very pissed off. Remember he left through the side door, I think he even arrived through the side door, the whole thing was weird. And so the insider

1:16:20 two days ago said, okay, let me tell you exactly what happened, exactly what President Obama said to Netanyahu. And so I want to read this quote because I think it's quite telling. You ready? Yeah. It was according to the insider. And I think this is probably... The Ulsterman report. Yeah, the Ulsterman report. Quote, Obama said to Netanyahu, you have just as much blood on your hands as they do. They got a right to exist as well. Everybody does. And I don't want this thing, this back and forth, you and them, I don't want this turning into an election issue for me, right? I can't be telling those people how to treat your country any more than you want me telling you how to treat them, right? You see where I'm at with this? Don't you turn this into something that they might take away Jewish votes from me. That's what you got going here.

1:17:14 I know what you're up to. Don't do it. This thing, Iran, don't try. Don't hurt me politically with it. You need us. We don't need you. Eh, it's believable. I think it's highly believable. And so of course this is why we have Netanyahu now coming out and making all kinds of nasty comments against Hillary and against Obama. I got something here from PBS. How does the US election calendar play into Prime Minister Netanyahu's calculations here? Well, I think it plays quite heavily. Prime Minister Netanyahu would never admit that, but we see

1:17:56 a line of increasing tension, some of it deliberately, between the Israeli government and the American administration as close as we get to the elections. It is clear that the White House asked Israel and put quite a lot of pressure not to launch a preemptive strike, at least not before the elections, in order not to create an oil crisis that would damage the Obama campaign. On the other hand, We know of quite close ties between the Republican Mitt Romney and the Republican Bernie Sanders. Prime Minister Netanyahu, and I think that Netanyahu as close as we get to the elections is harshening its criticism towards the administration and we see some sort of at least some sort of coordination between the Mitt Romney campaign and what Netanyahu is doing in Israel. So you think there's collusion there? Yeah, absolutely. What do you think? Yeah, I'm liking it.

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

The Blaze TV, Glenn Beck Network Launch

Glenn Beck's media outlet, The Blaze, has transitioned from a web-based platform to a 24/7 television network available on Dish Network. Analysts predict the network's ratings could eventually surpass those of MSNBC as it builds a dedicated audience for conservative programming. Meanwhile, MSNBC continues to lean into partisan commentary with hosts like Toure and Al Sharpton.

glenn beck· the blaze· dish network· msnbc· media ratings

1:19:01 And this is awesome. Yeah, this is very, this is interesting. Yeah, it is. So there was a couple of interesting things I ran into. Well actually, since you brought it up and with an example of Obama showing backbone, I ran into, I caught this the second time, I don't have a copy of the original meme that's going out, but there's a meme they're throwing at Obama and the administration that is, they're trying to put it into, remember with John Kerry, they ran against him with, he was a flip-flopper.

1:19:44 Republicans are better at this than the Democrats are, creating this little, just a little jazzy term. So I ran into the second use of it, but I think I've heard it before on the radio. This is kind of interesting. Glenn Beck now has his own TV network. Yeah, it's the internet thing, right? No! It's on TV, it's on cable, it's on the dish, it's called The Blaze. Oh yeah, but they've had a website and stuff going for a long, long time. No, they've had the website, but now they've got a full 24-7 programming, including the infomercials, and a bunch of hosts and different people you've never seen before that are now competing, and I believe... Hosts?

1:20:26 I believe that within six months to eight between six and 18 months from now it will actually have better ratings than MSNBC. That's just a I'll put that in the book. Well you know MSNBC of course is really kicking it right now now that they've just decided to go full-on you know. Yeah but that'll be end when the elections over. So two months from now MSNBC no one's gonna care. Right, right. So let's play, I got this clip and it's got the meme in it and I think we're gonna, this is another thing, I believe we're gonna start hearing this meme over and over again to the point where Jon Stewart can just play 50 of them in a row.

1:21:08 Oh, yeah. Is wishy-washy? Does that really qualify, John? Oh yeah. This wishy-washy, that's not good. Yeah, you're gonna hear it over and over again. Really? You're gonna start hearing it, it's like flip-flopper. You watch wishy-washy. Obama, yeah, he's okay, but he's wishy-washy. Oh, I don't like that one at all. Well, you watch. You're gonna hear it. It's the best they can do. Yeah, no, I know. I don't like it at all. I don't like the wishy-washy.

1:21:55 You know, it'll catch, it'll watch it take hold. This is a, you're gonna see this happen. So this Blaze TV has actually been around for a year. It's just now it's on the Dish Network. Yeah, I don't know where it was. Was it on digital cable? No, just on the interwebs. Well, the interwebs, yeah, the Blaze thing has been on the interwebs more than a year. Right, but this is like now it's, you know, being broadcast. The Blaze TV celebrates one year anniversary with Beck's return to traditional TV and Dish Network launch. So I think it's just, you know, the... It's a year old, but now it's because it's on the dish and it's going to be on Comcast and Beck is back on TV. I don't, I mean, yeah, it's been around a year, but it hasn't been around a year. I mean, this is the beginning of the network you watch. Yeah. And it's already better than MSNBC as far as I can tell. Oh, I really, I can't watch any of that.

1:22:50 I can't. I mean, I'm you know, I I OD'd after after the new normal Wow and then CNN I mean, that's no no no no no I stopped CNN I can't I'm now watching it's like three clips from CNN on today's show. No, it's all MSNBC my friend Yeah, no, I'm watching MSNBC now. It's more entertaining because they're so hilarious and this do you're the tour a guy? He has his own show who to array the hip-hop Meister. Yeah. Yeah, I know to ray. Yeah, he's got a show Yeah, who put I think he replaced that didn't he replace Sharpton Sharpton still have a show no sharp. No Sharpton still has a show Oh God. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's really bad. No, you can't it's unwatchable. Oh

1:23:33 It's unwatchable. That's kind of what he... Maybe he's on Haldol. That may be it. No, no. Sharpton still has his show, but the Toure guy... The Toure guy has like Afternoon Drive or something. And he had... it's just... he's smug and... And they're playing hip-hop songs in and out of the breaks. Yeah, it's exactly what I want You know, I want to sit there and just go I hate this. This is so lame. You know, so I watch that I was watching PBS, you know, and I have if you ready for it I can do this. Let's do it after the break the idiotic clip of the day from PBS Oh, let's roll an idiotic clip of the day. Can we do that? Yeah, I hit it Hello

CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Salton Sea Stench, Los Angeles Odor Mystery

A mysterious foul odor that caused nausea and stomach aches across the Los Angeles and Pasadena areas was officially attributed to a massive fish die-off at the Salton Sea, 150 miles away. Some residents remain skeptical of the official explanation, given the distance the scent traveled. The incident was brought to light by a listener who discovered the podcast via a stencil painted on a city sidewalk.

salton sea· los angeles· pasadena· stench· dead fish

1:24:34 It's time to wake your flower sleepyhead. Mom, are you singing to the plants? They like it. Another HowlDoll commercial. Obviously. I said it was idiotic. Before we go to the break, I received a wonderful email that I wanted to share with you. And this actually led me into this story about what's happening in Southern California with the stink. Did you hear about the stink? No, I didn't know the stink was in town. Well, the stink was in town. We got this email from someone who signed off as SLS.

1:25:12 My daughter told me she was suffering from a stomach ache and nausea being in the LA Pasadena area for several hours with a foul odor in the air. So then I asked my daughter, what would Adam Curry say? And she texted back, I bet if a couple of people emailed about it you wouldn't have to wonder. So for your responding pleasure I bring you an unexplained stench and then she brings you this link from the LA Times. And what happened is the literally 150 miles away where Salton Sea is, which we've talked about on this show, they are saying they're claiming that because the fish died in Salton Sea, the wind swept the stink, which was making people actually nauseous, like physically ill. They kept children inside, not going to school, that that is that that came from dead fish in Salton Sea.

1:26:05 Which seems highly unlikely to me. I thought you were going to tell me that Sting was at the holiday, at the Hollywood Bowl. Seriously. So she wraps up this email, although I'm a douchebag for not donating, I'm carrying the heavy banner of what seems to be the only African American woman, urban gardener and chicken keeper. Yes, I make my own bread and jam. No agenda listener which currently earns me exactly zero actual dollars. But I hold that banner high and speak loudly of No Agenda propaganda all over town. It's especially effective in restaurants. And just so John doesn't think all the listeners find their way through the rabbit hole via Twit, I learned of No Agenda whilst looking at my feet on a city street. A No Agenda stencil painted on the sidewalk. Alright! It has since been painted over, but not before it changed my life. How awesome is that? We need more of those stencils.

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

NYC Cycling Accident, Anonymous Donor Karma

An anonymous donor in Brooklyn contributed $136.35 after surviving a bicycle accident in Manhattan, attributing their safety to "karma." Another donor, Graham Scott from Western Australia, requested "lone wolf milf karma" for his partner. The segment highlights the personal anecdotes shared by the show's global audience during the donation process.

brooklyn· cycling· karma· bank of america· nyc

1:27:04 Yes, we do. I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. We do have a few people to thank, including Anonymous in Brooklyn. $136.35. I commute 14 miles a day. each way by bicycle in the middle of NYC on most days, got hit by a careless car on Monday and as I was hitting the pavement the thought that passed through my head was, oh, oh, karma ran out. The hit wasn't too bad and it's mostly bruises and scrapes. I make way too much money in IT to die young or remain a douchebag. I would like a triple karma shot, first 69-69 relationship to karma.

1:27:56 Okay, I stayed in the mouse. I say hitting the bill is pounding on the mouse poor mouse Since my 30th birthday is coming up, I need to get laid. 3333, staying alive karma for me and all those who commute by bike. Lastly, 3333 for you guys and for lots of value twice a week. I listen while biking. It keeps me sane through the bad drivers, rough hills and bridges and Manhattan crowds. Why don't I give you a magic number three karma? That would probably be good. 33, that's the magic number. It's the magic number. You've got karma.

1:28:49 So yeah, well okay. To our resident Buzzkill and you guys, here's to you for fighting the good fight against Bank of America. I have faith you'll win and be set right. However, just in case, here's the emergency first donation toward Buzzkill Bunkers Emergency Ram and Noodle Fund. You never know, he says. Graham Scott in Banbury, Western Australia, 9696. I wouldn't mind a de-douching for myself and a lone wolf milf karma for my sexy sexy partner, uh, Yelka, who is raising my awesome little human resource, Yovan. He's gonna be one hell of an awesome resource. Alright, de-douching... lone wolf milf karma, alright. You've been de-douched.

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

Canine Flu Vaccine, Veterinary Industry Scams

A listener in Pennsylvania reports that local doggy daycares are now requiring a canine flu vaccine, despite the manufacturer's admission that it does not prevent dogs from contracting the virus. The requirement is viewed as a financial scam within the veterinary industry. The host notes that canine flu only became a prominent concern within the last four years, suggesting a manufactured market for the treatment.

canine flu· vaccine· doggy daycare· veterinary· pennsylvania

1:29:39 You've got karma. Not bad. And here we go with our segment. Oh no. 69! 69, dudes! Wilford B. Kessler, Lebanon, Pennsylvania 6969. The science is in for the past 10 years I've been a good slave and received my flu shots annually. My wife and I were discussing it and came to the conclusion that we haven't been sick anymore for less than the 10 years prior. I've had enough of this scam. Instead I'm donating the amount we would have spent getting flu shots for the family including the dog. Yes our local doggy daycare is now requiring dogs to get the flu vaccine as well. Okay.

1:30:18 The kicker is on the information sheet they provided it states the flu vaccine does not prevent the dog from getting the flu. Wait a minute, how much money do you think... They have wasted, that could have been donated to this fantastic podcast. How much money have they wasted? Well just think of the scam for the entire public. Wow! WTF he says, hey at least they're being honest about screwing you for some extra cash. I find it interesting that for as long as dogs have been around the canine flu just started about four years ago. I'm sure the deadly canine flu spreading to humans will be the next pandemic.

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

Birthday Greetings, Slide Whistle Performance

The hosts perform birthday greetings for listeners' family members, featuring a slide whistle accompaniment. A Canadian listener in Los Angeles requested "swine flu karma" to assist with an H1B visa application. The segment includes various "karma shots" for listeners in Arizona and California who contributed to the show's production.

happy birthday· slide whistle· h1b visa· swine flu· arizona

1:30:53 Anyway, I need a de-douching has been a boner for too long. I've been listening since show 350 or so and recently have gone back and started listening to it from the beginning. Your podcast is too awesome not to donate. Truly the best podcast in the universe. You'll become a knight. And he wants to shut up slave to do the head karma, I believe. Yes. Let's do that. You've got karma. Uh, Nate Wilson, special Swazilnath donation, $69.69 for my wife Catherine. Her birthday is 9-14. I hope she has a wonderful birthday. Shout out for her. You do. She enjoys that Dvorak slide whistle. Can you please play happy birthday on her slide whistle while...

1:31:43 Vice, wait, can you please play happy birthday for her on the slide whistle maestro Dvorak also Adam Thank you for all the wonderful insight about our government and world news. Can I just stop you? I'm the slide whistle guy. Yes, exactly. I am the guy with the wonderful insight to world news and you are the slide whistle guy. See, he's actually better on the sliders. I am. I'm better there too. And I'm handsomer. I'm pointing people to the No Agenda shows about the pipelines and understanding No Agenda show when Adam and Mickey were on wedding vacation. These are great episodes to get people in the show. I'm hoping to be knighted by the end of the year. Thanks for all you do. Karma shots for both of you and your families. Karma shot. Karma shot.

1:32:35 You've got karma. I forgot to ask you did you like that that the thing that blew up your your computer? Did you like the the checking out the individual clips of the show? Sorry, the clips curry comm thing that I told you to look at at the top of the show the yeah No, I did. I liked it. Isn't it cool offline for ya. It looks very cool. I'm gonna play with it. Yeah Chris Malmy in Cherry Valley, Massachusetts. 69-69. In the morning, John and Adam, great analysis of the unemployment figures in the last show after Adam stopped with the one-liners. Sorry, Adam, I love the show, but just getting by is getting old. Please send a shout-out to Karma my way, SwazzleNuff. SwazzleNuff.com, by the way, is available and you can use that in case you can't remember where to donate. You've got Karma.

1:33:28 And finally, Greg, for the 69-69 segment, Prior Lake, Minnesota's Gregory Evans sends in the same amount with the Howling Wolf Karma request. Alright, so we'll end the segment with a Howling Wolf Karma. You've got Karma. 69! 69, dudes! Daniel Gray in Tempe, Arizona, 66-11. Double sixes on the sticks. Ah, double six on the sticks. Keep rocking with your media deconstruction which is making y'all the best podcast in the universe. Please give a shot of Carmen and my boy a damn Thanks for your hard work Danny. All right, damn. Here you go. You've got karma. Is that like my name only? And that's how they say it in Tempe a damn a damn a damn a damn a damn a damn

1:34:25 Hey damn. Christina Norman in Los Angeles, California 5512. I'm a Canadian girl working for the US and working in the US for a year now trying to upgrade my visa to H1B would love some Hey Citizen swine flu karma so I can stay and keep contributing to this great country. Thanks for all the entertainment. Now the way to contribute is send us a picture and we can pull some strings for you. You want to go to visa HQ.com. Those are our official visa guys who work. You get a 10% discount. Uh, so he wants, she wants a, what was it? Hey Citizen Swine- Yes, that's all she really wants. Hey Citizen Swine Flu. Okay, uh... Do we have a swine flu? What is that? Uh, yeah, I got it. Hey Citizen.

1:35:15 You've got karma. There you go. Yeah, people are talking about the swine flu again. Again, of course. That time of year. In fact, it sounds like you already had the swine flu. I need water. Mark Magpio. Magpayo. It's gotta be Magpayo. It couldn't be Magpayo. Magpayo. Magpio. Magpio. Magpio. Magpio. Magpio. Magpio. Cerritos, California, $55.10. Haven't donated in a while, thought I'd throw in a double nickels on the dime for good measure. Can I get some traveling karma with John's UFO whistling? Yeah, yeah. Traveling karma. U-F-O. Karma. I can play Happy Birthday. John can do UFO whistle.

CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

Fifth Anniversary Donations, House Sale Karma

Listeners Matt Mariotti and Dennis Cruz contributed to the show, with Mariotti requesting karma to help sell his house in Cleveland before a move to Pittsburgh. The hosts emphasize that while they appreciate the support, donations should be based on the value of the content rather than transactional requests for luck. The program is approaching its fifth anniversary in October.

fifth anniversary· cleveland· pittsburgh· real estate· knighthood

1:36:04 Kyle Kinzel in Green Bay, Wisconsin, home of the Green Bay Packers, 55-10, double nickels on a dime. Pleased to say that this donation brings me over one third of the way to my knighthood. Probably won't get her to the round table in time to get a ring. So how about a yellow star with the words No Agenda Night on it that I can sew onto my sleeves? Keep up the great work and the best podcast in the universe. I think the yellow star should just be universal. Yeah, you should be able to put all kinds of things on it. It's an idea Yeah, curious oddities or otherwise known as cat in Toronto Ontario 55 I'm donating to the best podcast in the universe have a birthday present for myself and May 13th and may get some good wishes dedicated the clacks on in Vancouver BC in the form of a haze citizen as he's one Responsible for getting me hooked on no agenda way back in the beginning. Thanks guys

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1:37:52 First I'll call myself out for hearing how donations have been crappy lately and I sit by and do nothing. What a douchebag. Anyways, I'm having trouble selling my house in Cleveland. He's got a URL we can put in the show notes if we can remember to do that. Says, moving to Pittsburgh, I just want to get on with the American just getting by dream so I would like a shot of karma to hopefully make my house get sold faster. Works for jobs, why not houses? Anyway, here's my, he keeps saying anyways. Here's my experiment to test the karma. If I sell my house in the next 60 days, I will donate $500 to No Agenda, which is why I posted the link. Yes, we'll post the link. It's tinyurl.com slash CLV house. Yeah, that's bullcrap.

1:38:39 I want people to donate to the show because they think that we're a great show. Yeah, I agree with that. But wait, there's more. If a listener ends up buying the house, which is not going to happen... Uh-uh. Not gonna happen. When we close. That would be too weird, by the way. If we were like 10 times bigger, it's always a possibility. But, you know, we're not. So I appreciate the donation, but and we want you to donate to the show You know because you appreciate the show and not just because you got lucky and sold a house, you know Yeah, well just sent him to Karma. Yeah, I know totally I give you karma. That's that's you know what I'm saying, right? You've got karma It's not an extortion deal or yeah, not really sir Mike Westerfield

1:39:30 in parts unknown, $50. That'll be it for today's segment of donors, which could have been better, but we did have a nice night. That makes a big difference. I'm thinking that Richard Fowler, the name, I know him from somewhere. He's in Aiken, South Carolina. Why don't we consult the book of knowledge? Maybe he's famous. I don't know. I'm just, I'm not seeing anything in the emails. I'm not finding anything at all. I know it's baffling. It is kind of baffling. But again, I think it's to be encouraged. Oh no, totally. I mean, I'm completely on board with it. No doubt about it. Well, we appreciate whatever we get. Every once in a while I get an anonymous donation and the guy says, I don't want to say anything, I don't want you mentioning the donation, and I don't care about my name being... just leave me alone. Yeah, leave me alone.

1:40:26 That's yeah, that's kind of the way it is just leave me alone. Just go away go away Dvorak org Slash and a remember that we have our special 444 at 4 4 4 yeah episode 444 coming up on Sunday we have a special donation amount for that and There was another number, we'll talk about that on Sunday I guess. But the 444, that would be a great way to show your appreciation, especially in light of our upcoming 5th anniversary, which is, what is the actual date of our 5th anniversary? It's in October. Yeah, do we have an actual date? I can't tell you because if I go on the browser, I go offline and then we have to waste another 10 minutes. Okay, so let's not do that then.

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Knighting Ceremony, Sir Richard Fowler

Richard Fowler is officially knighted into the No Agenda Roundtable following a donation of over $1,000. The ceremony includes the traditional "hookers and blow" proclamation and the promise of a physical knight's ring. The hosts encourage other listeners to contribute before the end of the year to receive the current version of the membership ring.

richard fowler· knighthood· no agenda roundtable· south carolina· episode 444

1:39:30 in parts unknown, $50. That'll be it for today's segment of donors, which could have been better, but we did have a nice night. That makes a big difference. I'm thinking that Richard Fowler, the name, I know him from somewhere. He's in Aiken, South Carolina. Why don't we consult the book of knowledge? Maybe he's famous. I don't know. I'm just, I'm not seeing anything in the emails. I'm not finding anything at all. I know it's baffling. It is kind of baffling. But again, I think it's to be encouraged. Oh no, totally. I mean, I'm completely on board with it. No doubt about it. Well, we appreciate whatever we get. Every once in a while I get an anonymous donation and the guy says, I don't want to say anything, I don't want you mentioning the donation, and I don't care about my name being... just leave me alone. Yeah, leave me alone.

1:40:26 That's yeah, that's kind of the way it is just leave me alone. Just go away go away Dvorak org Slash and a remember that we have our special 444 at 4 4 4 yeah episode 444 coming up on Sunday we have a special donation amount for that and There was another number, we'll talk about that on Sunday I guess. But the 444, that would be a great way to show your appreciation, especially in light of our upcoming 5th anniversary, which is, what is the actual date of our 5th anniversary? It's in October. Yeah, do we have an actual date? I can't tell you because if I go on the browser, I go offline and then we have to waste another 10 minutes. Okay, so let's not do that then.

1:41:14 Marty Williamson congratulates his daughter Rachel with her birthday, Katz says happy birthday to herself, celebrating today, and Nate Wilson wants to say happy birthday to his wife, Katherine. She will be celebrating tomorrow on the 14th. Age is not necessary because, well, that's how we roll here on the show. Happy birthday from all you buddies here at the best podcast in the universe, it's no agenda! And let's roll out the blades here. I've got the big blade. Richard Fowler, step forward. I know you're a man of many, many words. Or very few words, actually.

1:41:52 So we'll just get right to it. If you kneel, thank you so much for supporting the best podcast in the universe. The amount of $1,000, actually more as you added a swazzle-nuff to it. So hereby we pronounce thee Sir Richard Fowler, Knight of the Noah's General Roundtable for you, sir, whether you want it or not. Hookers and blow, Rimp Boys and Chardonnay, winches and beer, hot pants and booze, or if you want some chocolate milk, we got it all right here. And thank you for becoming a Knight of the Noah's General Roundtable. Your ring is on the way. Those of you of course who get in on the night who is before the end of the year I still receive a ring before we go to the yellow stars apparently stars It's a pet it's a patch now. I saw that you had one clip One Euro land clip in here actually have a couple I have a lot on on Euro land and so I think that our clips are probably

CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

European Central Bank, Eurozone Banking Supervision

The EU Commission has unveiled plans for the European Central Bank to directly supervise over 6,000 financial institutions within the Eurozone. This move coincides with the German Constitutional Court's approval of the European Stability Mechanism (ESM), a permanent bailout fund. Germany's contribution is capped at 190 billion euros, though the total fund is projected to reach 500 to 600 billion euros.

european central bank· eurozone· esm· germany· michel barnier

1:42:47 Complimentary if I be if I start well, maybe maybe not if I can start with the big news about the European Central Bank Which has now become essentially the banking gestapo in in Euro land. This is for all of you in Europe who? Don't watch the correct news which pretty much all the mainstream stuff. Here's the actually what's happening in your area and The EU Commission has unveiled sweeping plans for the European Central Bank to supervise all of the Eurozone banking system. The reforms, which still need approval from member states, would give the ECB responsibility for the bloc's 6,000 or so financial institutions. In Strasbourg, the EU's financial services chief, Michel Barnier, said he hoped the system would be up and running soon.

1:43:38 When, after the text is approved, we hope things will be in place before the end of the year and that the European Central Bank will have the power to directly supervise any banks that it believes are at risk. So this is pretty unbelievable. where you now have the centralized force in Brussels, essentially the boss of commercial banks. And this comes along with the approval of the, which I think I told you way before it was even on the radar anywhere else, the European Stability Mechanism, which was moved up an entire year earlier, all predicted actually on this show.

1:44:20 Now Germany has said, yeah, you know what, we're okay. According to our constitution, the bailout is good up to 190 billion euros. For some reason that was stipulated in their laws, I guess. So this is the plundering can now start. And all this money, this European money, this 190 billion euros from Germany and it'd be, I know it's 40 billion from the Netherlands. God knows where it's from. All these other countries is going straight into these commercial banks, which are now actually being run by the European Central Bank. Yeah, it has to be ratified and they have to put all the laws through, but that's going to happen. It's a complete, total and utter takeover. Where'd you get that number? Because my number is 500 billion. What? The German number?

1:45:06 Yeah, no the total ESM is I think is 600 billion Germany says that they can be on the hook for a hundred and ninety billion of the 500 or the 600 billion well Play eurozone in German court, okay? Well, it's not something you hear us say very often, but there was good news for the euro today. Voters in the Netherlands cast their ballots for pro-European parties and in Germany, the country's top court approved German involvement in a bailout fund of indebted eurozone countries. The ruling did have limits, but as our Europe editor Gavin Hewitt now reports, it's being seen as a way to help stabilise the single currency.

1:45:48 For a moment today, Europe's eyes were on these eight men and women, the judges of Germany's constitutional court. Would they declare the Eurozone's new bailout fund illegal and throw Europe into turmoil? In the name of the people, we reject the petition. And with those few words, the judges gave the go-ahead for a fund that is seen as central to fighting the Eurozone crisis. And that's the ESM fund. Okay, play number two then. So what did the court agree? It gave the green light for Germany to contribute to the Eurozone's permanent bailout fund, the ESM. With a 500 billion euro war chest, the fund is seen as central to helping out troubled Eurozone countries. Well, it's 600. I got it. It wasn't 500 billion from Germany, just 500 billion. Correct. More of the clip?

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Jose Manuel Barroso, Federation of Nation States

European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso called for a "Federation of Nation States" during his State of the Union address in Strasbourg. He argued for the "pooling of sovereignty" to increase collective power and criticized opponents of the plan as "populists" and "nationalists." Barroso indicated that completing this economic and monetary union would eventually require a new European treaty.

jose manuel barroso· european union· sovereignty· federation· strasbourg

1:46:44 No, that's good. So, but this wasn't the, this was just the minor thing that happened, which, and I'd love to hear Horowitz's take on this because people are saying, well, this either means the accelerated demise of the eurozone or guaranteed hyperinflation. I'm not sure exactly. This is kind of the two options that I'm hearing. Meanwhile, Manuel Barroso, Barroso, he's so Barroso. he gave his State of the Union. I'm sure this wasn't covered like when Barack Obama gives his State of the Union and he rolled out something that floored me. Did you hear what he said in his State of the Union? Yeah, play it. All right. This is our political horizon. This is what must guide our work in years to come. Today I call for a Federation of Nation States, not a super state. So let me just

1:47:48 And by the way, you can hear the crowd go, whoa. It's literally now a federation. This is Starfleet Command. I mean, this is exactly what we've called it for years. He's calling for a federation of nation states. A democratic federation of nation states that can tackle our common problems through the sharing of sovereignty. Sharing of sovereignty. Isn't that a dichotomy in terms? You can't share sovereignty, can you John? It's not a dichotomy as much as it is a contradiction. Contradiction in terms. That's ridiculous. In a way that each country and each citizen are better than the people. Citizen? Did he say citizen? Yeah, citizen. Hey, citizen. Well, the way he's about to treat them, we might as well call them citizens. What do you do on a citizen? You citizen them. It's to control their own destiny.

1:48:45 This is about union with the member states, not against the member states. In the age of globalization, pooled sovereignty means more power. Pooled sovereignty means more power? Not less. Well, black is white and red is blue and up is down. Are you okay? Are you okay? Why wouldn't I be okay? It sounded like you'd like someone like like no box that fell from the shelf. Oh the other show I thought you would just hit the floor. I could just see good. That is not good as good sound effect Yeah, I thought yeah, I'm like there's like a dead fish slap. I'm like John just keeled over I said on purpose a Federation of nation states uh-huh because I think in these turbulent times I

1:49:35 In these times of anxiety, it will be a real mistake to leave the defense of the nation just to the nationalists and the populists. Ah, hello! Did we not talk about this just the other day? Like, we can't have democracy where we have nationalists and populists. No, these are now evil people. He's literally calling out opposition. as nationalists and populists and these are bad, bad people. They're not part of democracy. I believe in a Europe where people are proud of their nations but also proud to be European and proud of our European values. Creating this federation of nation states will ultimately require a new treaty. Oh, a new treaty you say? I was waiting for that to happen.

1:50:31 And I do not say this lightly. No. We are all aware how difficult treaty change has become. It has to be well prepared. Discussions on treaty change must not distract or delay us from doing what can and must be done already today. So here's the plan. A deep and genuine economic monetary union, like this whole bank takeover, first we do that, can be started under the current treaties. But can only be completed with changes in the treaties. So let's start it now, but let's have the horizon for the future present in our decisions of today. Lovely. Just lovely. So that was yesterday. Today,

1:51:16 He came back and he laid it on even thicker, which was not his State of the Union, but he was still in Parliament. They're all in Strasbourg this week. You know, they travel back and forth between Strasbourg and Brussels. And he just, the whole populist thing, he really laid it on. This is unbelievable. This is dictatorship. I'm amazed that people are not right, well we're not seeing it so maybe it is happening, but I'm amazed people are not riding in the streets over this type of language coming out of the European Parliament. Before you get to that clip.

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Nigel Farage, Barroso Parliamentary Debate

Nigel Farage engaged in a heated exchange with Jose Manuel Barroso in the European Parliament, accusing the Commission President of having a "twisted form of democracy." Farage criticized the labeling of euroskeptics as extremists and pointed out that the public was never given a choice in Barroso's appointment. Barroso countered by mocking Farage's inability to get elected to the British Parliament.

nigel farage· jose manuel barroso· democracy· european parliament· ukip

1:51:54 So after he gave the State of the Union, then Farage came out with a scathing... I had clipped it but it was like so long and there were some questions and answers in the whole thing. I have the whole thing, you have the whole thing too. It's too long but the thing I think was interesting is then Barossa comes back at him, which I've never seen before. He came back at him and started slamming him and then A fair is went back at him again, and that's the clip I have and that took place before if there's a newer clip. You know I think I have the hits back clip, but how come mine is one minute and yours is four minutes and mine's cut down no no that I think you have the one where he went against this No, no, I have that too. That's eight minutes. I have that one too hold on a second

1:52:45 Let me, first let's play the second, because you don't have the second piece. This is where... But this is actually the second piece that I have. No, no, this is our great complimentary clips. Well, I have 57... No, I got a clip, you got a clip. No, no, it's not the right clip. You already heard my clip. Here's the clip. There will not be a magic solution. It will require time, determination, persistence, coherence. I know that populists, populists they manipulate feeling and anger. They can give a very simple solution. The solution is no. This is the guy in charge over there. Populists. Is that my clip? No, this is my clip. Well play my clip then. Well hold on. To say no is easy. Say no to Europe is easy. Difficult. And that requires leadership is to say yes but to say how we can move forward. And that is why I'm asking you.

1:53:39 to bring the conditions for a true European debate with a true European democracy and I'm making the signal for the next European elections because I believe in democracy. I was elected since I was 29 years of age in my parliament. Mr Faraz, don't look at me like that because in fact I really have a great admiration for the wisdom of the British people. Every time you've tried to be elected in Britain, you were rejected. That's why you came here. It shows that the British people know that it's much better to keep you away from your own system. Did you have that in your clip? Yeah, that's my clip. Okay, well then we have the identical clip. And now I'll play my version of Farage's comeback. Well now, you claim to be a good Democrat. It's a very twisted form of democracy.

1:54:29 when you say that all of those political parties that get votes with whom you don't agree are not relevant? It's a pretty obscene definition of democracy to decry those of us that believe in national democracy and European cooperation. You call us populist, extremist, xenophobic and nationalistic. Surely Mr Barroso, the point about democracy is you engage in debate, you listen to what the other person has to say, you put it to the public and you accept the result. That is what real, genuine, parliamentary democracy is about and you seem to actually despise that and everything that those of us that stand for national democracy believe in. And to tell me that you're in this position because this parliament voted for you, we were only given the chance to vote for one candidate! Is that your new model of European democracy? Yeah. Yeah, you better believe it. That's the way my clip ends but there's a whole prelude to that that you cut out.

1:55:35 Well, I have another clip which is like the six minute clip that you probably don't have. No, I had it but I thought it was too long and boring actually. What I liked about that six minute one is that at the end of that there's a guy that asks him some dumb question and then he blasts the guy. He blows him out of the water with a shut up sleigh. Did you really like that? Did you really like that? I liked the comeback, yeah. I cut that out because I thought that was kind of boring. I like the comeback, it was short, it was only like 30 seconds, it was a great comeback. The other thing goes on and on and on. And the other problem with the long one, which you have there, is that it is, we've heard the same, almost the exact same pitch before. That's why I didn't clip it. The reason why I didn't, because it was the Austrian guy and he says, how do you get elected in England, do you have to kiss the Queen's ring?

1:56:27 And I was like, you know... No, no, no, no, no, that question. That was another one. Really? No, that, I know it's one you're talking about. Yeah, that's the big fat guy. Yeah, no, it was a skinny guy. They're all fat. No, no, this was a skinny guy who asked a really lame question. Is it at the end of your clip? Well, let me check it out. Let's find it. And what annoys me today to be very open with you... Is that him? No, no. I believe isn't that the president that's talking from the podium and then Farage blasts him for playing politics from that seat? Where's your skinny guy? The skinny guy, well I mean I have to... Yeah where's the skinny guy clip then? It's, I've got it, I'll have to go get it for Sunday show. Alright, well so here's one I know you don't have. So we have a new guy standing up all of a sudden. A conservative from the, from Gitmo Nation East and he is now joining ranks with Farage which is interesting. His name is Daniel Hannan and so he's with the, with the Tories I believe.

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Daniel Hannan, Eurozone Economic Alternative

British MEP Daniel Hannan argued in the European Parliament that peripheral Eurozone countries should "default, devalue, and decouple" to recover their economies. He cited the historical examples of the UK, Denmark, and Sweden, where avoiding or leaving fixed exchange rate mechanisms led to economic growth rather than the predicted disasters. Hannan claimed Eurocrats fear this path because it would restore power to citizens.

daniel hannan· eurozone· inflation· sweden· denmark

1:57:29 And for him to now basically join with Farage in the European Parliament is very interesting. And I thought what he had to say was very Faragesque, but succinct and short, which I like. Mr Barroso, we keep hearing these terrifying biblical predictions of what would happen in the event of a Euro breakup. We've heard the same thing over and over again. We heard it 20 years ago in my home country over the ERM. We were told that it would be inflationary and unemployment would rise. In fact, our recovery began the day we left and carried on for 15 years before Gordon Brown came along to mess it up, but that's another story. We had the same thing in Denmark. We were told that if they voted not to join the Euro, inflation would go up, interest rates would go up. In fact, precisely the opposite happened.

1:58:10 The Copenhagen Stock Exchange enjoyed its greatest 24-hour rise in history. Inflation and interest rates fell. The same thing in Sweden. I suspect that even you, in your bones, know. that the best option now for the peripheral countries is to default, devalue, decouple. To price their way into the markets to start exporting their way back to growth. It wouldn't solve everything but it would be an alternative to this downward spiral of deflation, poverty and immigration. And that's really what you're afraid of. Their economies would recover, the credibility of the Eurocrats would not. The citizens would be back in charge. We have jingles on the fly here. You ready to hear them again? Hey, citizen. Citizen. And you know what? I think he's probably right. He's probably right. Yeah, the Eurocrats, they're riding high. I mean, these parliaments and these meetings and these councils, they got the council, they got the parliament, they got three or four of these big boards.

CHAPTER 29 / 36 Discussion

Economic Cycle Theory, 2020 World War Prediction

Analysis of historical economic cycles suggests a major systemic collapse may occur in October 2012 or 2013, potentially leading to a global conflict by 2020. The Federal Reserve's policy of purchasing $40 billion in debt monthly is viewed as an insufficient measure to prevent this inevitable downturn. Historical 80-year cycles of major American wars—1776, 1861, and 1941—point toward a significant conflagration in the early 2020s.

economic cycle· federal reserve· gold· 2020· world war

2:03:23 Or it could be right after the election. Sometimes you have these issues, something's happening in March. It's not usual but it does happen. Oh, so, but, okay. Alright, so we basically have three. It can be... Well, if you pump enough money into the economy, you can push this off to 2017, but then you're done. You can't push it off any further. Well, the Federal Reserve just announced it will continue its policy of purchasing new debt up to, I think, $40 billion a month. That was just announced this morning while we were doing the show. That's $480 billion a year, which is a little short. It's too short?

2:04:01 Yeah, they really need to... of course they lie. As you remember the first couple of these tranches, they had a... they lied. And when somebody started looking at the books, there were trillions of dollars being dropped into the system. So it's possible this is just... they can't... I don't think... and I know Bernanke is a student of depression, so he knows this too. And so, but he knows that you can't, the public is not buying into the idea of what I say. Or there's a few other people that say this, but it's generally speaking, it's not a popular idea that, yes, let's just print $10 trillion worth of money and get it into the system as fast as we can. That is not something that anyone would actually say that they think you're crazy or something.

2:04:45 I know, but I have zero effect on policy. And let me say something. The response from our listeners, by and large, in general, to your suggestion that we need to pump $10 trillion into the economy was, he's crazy. That's pretty much what everybody said. Yeah. So they're not going to do that and none of this is going to work. So the cycle's in play and it's going to collapse the system. And it's either going to happen this October or it's going to happen sometime next year. And believe me, you can take that to the bank. If the bank is still there. Let me see what my gold is doing today. $36.70 up.

2:05:37 Nice. Silver up. Very nice. So instead of pumping 10 trillion dollars into the economy, I have two other questions for you. Could we just give people gold in the amount of 10 trillion dollars? Just actual nuggets? Would that work? Well, that's what happened in the 1850s. They gave people nuggets? No, people just went and found them. But essentially what we had in the 1850s, and why we didn't have a depression on the cycle moment, which would have been in 1850 to 1860, which should have been a huge depression, is that we pulled out, in today's money, 30 trillion dollars worth of precious metals from, in silver and gold, from the ground during that era. And we didn't have a depression. And that was free money. That's, and I'd see no difference between a pile of gold being what we use for our money, and then a

2:06:30 A bunch of free money, which is the same as printing money. Hold on. Hold on. I'm with you now. So why don't here's a plan. Instead of printing the money, and I know you don't, if there's no difference to you, then it doesn't make a difference. So then why don't we just go down to Fort Knox and divide up the gold that we apparently still have there and just mail everybody a chunk. That's not the same as adding new gold. That's just distributing the gold that's there. So, but people will use it. It's not the same. It's not the same. People will go and buy stuff with it. Yeah, but there's some complications with it. Oh yeah, you're pulling the old it's complicated. I don't know that would work. That's just like saying why don't we just bankrupt the country and give everybody money and everything will work out. No, now the country's got no money. Okay, can I have a different scenario that I thought of? Because I thought about this. I'm really thinking about what you're saying. I'm not laughing at you. Let me by the way say to you, you're not getting any free money.

2:07:31 I mean, go on. So what if we did this? What if we printed up 10 trillion Dvorak bucks? Right. Okay. Now you're done. Now listen, no, listen, I just question the Vorac dollars, which would be only valid within the United States. You couldn't buy anything overseas with them. Would that also, would that, couldn't we then. That's illegal. No, no. But if the government does it, it's not illegal. Why would they print a Dvorak buck? Because your face would look cool on it? No, it wouldn't. No, but seriously, because then you can manage the... you can basically create one big bad bank overseas, give all the other dollars to Europe. It seems like there's something in there. We just need to reboot somehow. You can't just keep going into trillions and then the quadrillions... It's a cycle, we're screwed. So let's just live with the cycle and see what happens.

2:08:26 I need some help. It's a cycle, we're screwed. It's all there is to it. I mean all this trying to fix it and unless you're gonna, and even if you pump in the 10 trillion a couple times, 30 trillion in the system, eventually we're screwed. It still craps out. Eventually we're screwed. You can't get out of the cycle. I'm sorry. Okay, no, it's alright. I'm with you. What do we need? So let's say, next month is coming up, you know, I'm just, it's like it's on the way. Hopefully the economy won't collapse before our fifth anniversary, but if it on our fifth anniversary. Now that would be cool. That would be cool. Miss Mickey has art shows coming up. We can't have the economy collapse. It can, after like November, October 15th, it'll be okay. And then what will happen? It doesn't collapse. I mean, I'm not all for this idea. I'm just saying that... No, you are saying just like the sun rises and the moon comes out, it's happening. There's no... and I'm going to agree

2:09:18 that you probably, you have something here. I'm down with your cycles. Historically, you got it down. I mean, if you had the book out, now, I mean, that would be good timing. Because there's no better marketing for your cycles book than to have the economy collapse based upon a cycle. I have to get, Walt, because I'm sitting here arguing with you instead of writing the book. Oh, OK. And finishing the book. It's your fault. All right. Good night, everybody. Thanks for coming. It's your fault, honey. Thanks for coming, everybody. OK, so here's, OK, are you done with me? Let's just face it, we're screwed. I have one more question. I'm not mocking you, this is interesting stuff. Who else am I going to... I can't talk to anyone else about this. When the economy collapses, what can we expect?

2:10:01 Well, this is a problem because if you look at every one of these collapses going back to the 1600s, they all have a variation that is unexpected. None of them are the same. What happened in the 70s wasn't the same as what happened in the 30s. What happened in the 1890s isn't what happened in the 30s or the 70s. And before, what happened in the 1850s was not the same. it was always they're all dissimilar all the the only similarity is that it's a collapse of the economy and it's a mess for any number of years and it ends at in this cycle at 2020 or 2019 if it's up a year so and then then

CHAPTER 30 / 36 Discussion

Farmland Value, Economic Collapse Survival

During major economic downturns, farmland is historically the only asset class that consistently increases in value. While real estate typically follows the value of gold, current market conditions have decoupled the two, leaving real estate stagnant. Predictions for the coming years include increased homelessness and crime, culminating in a projected civil war in Europe by 2019 or 2020.

farmland· real estate· inflation· economic collapse· 2020

2:09:18 that you probably, you have something here. I'm down with your cycles. Historically, you got it down. I mean, if you had the book out, now, I mean, that would be good timing. Because there's no better marketing for your cycles book than to have the economy collapse based upon a cycle. I have to get, Walt, because I'm sitting here arguing with you instead of writing the book. Oh, OK. And finishing the book. It's your fault. All right. Good night, everybody. Thanks for coming. It's your fault, honey. Thanks for coming, everybody. OK, so here's, OK, are you done with me? Let's just face it, we're screwed. I have one more question. I'm not mocking you, this is interesting stuff. Who else am I going to... I can't talk to anyone else about this. When the economy collapses, what can we expect?

2:10:01 Well, this is a problem because if you look at every one of these collapses going back to the 1600s, they all have a variation that is unexpected. None of them are the same. What happened in the 70s wasn't the same as what happened in the 30s. What happened in the 1890s isn't what happened in the 30s or the 70s. And before, what happened in the 1850s was not the same. it was always they're all dissimilar all the the only similarity is that it's a collapse of the economy and it's a mess for any number of years and it ends at in this cycle at 2020 or 2019 if it's up a year so and then then

2:10:36 Could you answer the question? I mean, so just... No, you don't know what to expect. I'm... I... Like a lot of stuff doesn't make sense now. Real estate, for example, should be more and more... It should be following the pattern of gold because it's limited. You can't get, you know, it's valuable and it's limited and you can't make it. And so we should... Real estate prices should be going up, but they're not. And even Buffett wants to, you know, own apartments. and so you'd never know what the weather's good. I think I'm okay maybe I'm not crazy. The only consistency that I can say that it happens all in every downturn as Swedes studied this, in all these downturns farmland goes up in value. That's the only single one thing you can count on. So I was kind of looking at a little more pragmatically. Does this mean that the system of supplying supermarkets will collapse? Does it mean that money will not come out of ATMs? No, no, no, of course, they'll all be okay.

2:11:29 Oh, okay. So then if the economy collapses... Wait a minute! When we had the bailout in 2008, it was because, you know, pandemonium, people would be killing each other, eating each other on the streets. It didn't happen. No, I know it didn't happen, but you're saying if it happens... That's not what's gonna happen. It's not gonna be that kind of pandemonium. No, we're not gonna be eating each other on the streets. There's gonna be more homeless, probably a lot of crime. I mean, just the standard bad stuff. A lot of you, impossible to get a job. A lot of people living at home with their parents. Right. I mean, that's already happening. Yeah, that's already happening. Yeah, and it's just gonna get a little worse. And it's just gonna be a bad situation. And no one's gonna know how to get out of it. And how do we get out of it?

2:12:11 Oh well in 2020 and 2019 there should be a world war of some sort. I believe that's when the civil war starts in Europe and we get out of it by cranking up, by getting involved. 2020, so it's going to be a seven year itch, seven year thing, seven years, seven, well that you know that's what they say, the seven fat years, you get the seven thin years. So here's the deal, every 80 years and we've had a conflagration, we had in the 1700s we had our Civil War on an 80-year cycle. I'm sorry, the Revolutionary War on the 70 years, 70, 80-year cycle. 80 years later, we had the Civil War right on time. And 80 years after that, we had World War II, which is right on time. And 80 years after World War II will be 2020. And that's when I think we'll have

2:13:00 Who knows what kind of war it's going to be, but generally speaking I would suspect it's going to boil down to that. What we've been predicting on the show, which is the civil war in Europe. Okay, so I would like to give you, in case we haven't put them in already, and I don't understand why you get, you sound a little annoyed, like I'm not mocking you, I'm really serious about this. The dollar bill's got to me. Go on, but we've discussed this before. Yeah, well, I mean, then we might as well stop doing the show if we can't discuss things anymore. No, no, go on. What's your final thing? See, why are you going to be like that? Because you're not getting to the point. You're just mocking me for like trying to move it along. I'm not mocking you.

2:13:42 Now I forgot what I was going to say. No, you were going to say something about the Civil War and write it down. You wanted me to write something down. I was going to say if it's not already in the Red Book, then I'd like you to put in October 2012, March 2013, and October 2013. And then, you know, if that happens, then it'll be real easy for us to just put the 2020 European Civil War in there. I mean, that's okay. Or it could be 2019. But please don't be annoyed when I'm... No, that's okay. I have to bring... and the dollar thing, I'm not saying these things to mock you. I'm trying to come up with alternative scenarios. I don't think there are any and that's the point. You don't want to hear that part. I do hear that part and I'm totally down with it. I can just ask.

CHAPTER 31 / 36 Discussion

Gary Johnson, Libertarian Presidential Campaign

Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson is campaigning on a platform of ending the drug war, repealing the Patriot Act, and abolishing the IRS in favor of a consumption tax. Johnson is currently on the ballot in 47 states and is fighting legal challenges from Republicans in Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. He advocates for an immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan and opposition to military intervention in Iran.

gary johnson· libertarian party· patriot act· irs· 2012 election

2:14:27 I think we're screwed, is what I'm thinking. Not if we elect Gary Johnson! Thank you. We had a discussion, you and I, some months ago about the fact that Republicans were quite determined to keep you out of the debates. And they did so in cahoots with CNN, I believe. And now they want to keep you off the ballot as well. What have you done wrong? Well, I would be talking about issues that aren't being talked about by other candidates. You know, the notion of not bombing Iran, the notion of getting out of Afghanistan tomorrow, bring the troops home. marriage equality, believing that it's a constitutionally guaranteed right, ending the drug war, repealing the Patriot Act. I would have never signed the National Defense Authorization Act. I'd like to balance the federal budget tomorrow. I'd like to kick crony capitalism in the rear end by adopting one federal consumption tax, abolishing income tax, corporate tax, and the IRS. I like this guy.

2:15:19 That's a list I can stand behind. I haven't seen a single element of that in Mitt Romney's platform. Or Barack Obama's either. So anyway, big differences between myself and the other two guys. And I am talking, I want to point out that I'm going to be on the ballot in all 50 states. Right now I'm on the ballot in 47 states and the District of Columbia. We're litigated in the three states where I'm not. And these are formidable challenges that are being launched by Republicans. But the truth is that you have been fought in places like Virginia.

2:16:03 So there's three states that he's still fighting the apparently said Virginia's what are the three states? They don't bag states. We got to find out yeah, well we can find out pretty quick I look it up fine, but Yeah I guess I don't know do I produce the show, but now I have to do all the work during the show Apparently I'll put a sub and put a little side machine over here, and I'll use that because I think you're right It's one of these well some one of these browsers in honesty He made his way through college. What is the handyman? I have let me see continue to cite I have I have a separate

2:16:41 A machine just for Skype that I use. Yeah, I'm gonna have to consider this possibility. Let me see if it says anything about... They should have that like a headline. How come it doesn't have that as headline? Hello, headline. I gotta get them on. You have a single machine for Skype? Why should anybody care about that being a headline? Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, have Gary Johnson it'd be a headline. Are you that... Wow, lay off the Haldol, man. So here Gary Johnson on ballot 47 states. He's polling at about I think 5% now which is on the radar and the reason why they they want him gone is you know that 5% is is what Yeah, three states, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania and Michigan Oklahoma is a weird one

CHAPTER 32 / 36 Discussion

Bruce Springsteen, We Take Care of Our Own

President Barack Obama utilized the Bruce Springsteen song "We Take Care of Our Own" during a campaign stop in Nevada. The song's lyrics, which reference "knocking on the door that holds the throne" and the absence of the cavalry during crises, have drawn scrutiny for their symbolic meaning. The track was released in 2012 and has become a staple of the administration's re-election events.

bruce springsteen· barack obama· nevada· campaign music· lyrics

2:17:36 Pennsylvania of course is a Biden state. And Michigan, well that's, Michigan is owned by the unions. That's Obama's state. Yeah but I want to see the Republicans fighting him. I can see that in Oklahoma. Oh well the Republicans just want to take it. I don't know. You know what? I don't know. What the hell do I, you know what? Who cares? It's a sad vote for him. That's why I make it publicly known. I don't care about these other two guys. I think I'll vote for him too. So here's the thing, let's play this. This is Obama, you know, Obama's speeches now, by the way he does that thing, oh I'm so sorry this guy died and then he rushes right to Nevada. Yeah, off to the slots. He goes right to Nevada and then he goes to someplace else but anyway he's giving a speech at some school or something. Yeah. And he's, you know, his speeches now is mostly him screaming at you. Yes, it's effective.

2:18:30 So this is Obama finishing up a speech and then they crank up, as he's leaving shaking hands, he's got a grimace on his face, they crank up a Bruce Springsteen song because you know him and the boss are pals. And the Springsteen song has a lyric in it as it goes out, as they go out. that I go, whoa, that's kind of crazy. You're willing to work with me and fight for me and knock on some doors with me and make some phone calls with me. If you vote in November, we will win here in Clark County. We will win Nevada. We will win this election. We will finish what we started and you and I together will remind the world why we are the greatest nation on earth. God bless you and God bless the United States of America.

2:19:39 I'm not going to complain about your production, so I'll just sit through another 15 seconds of this. So I have no idea what was... I've been knocking on the door that holds the throne? What Springsteen's song is that? I have no idea, but he's been knocking on the door that holds the throne. Wow. Did anybody find this a little peculiar? Nah, that's cool. What is the name of that song? Type in the lyric into Google and you'll probably find the song. Well, not because you find knocking on... Oh, here it is. I mean, we take care of our own.

2:20:46 We take care of our own as the song. I don't even know this song. I've been knocking on the door that holds the throne. I've been looking for the map that leads me home. I've been stumbling on good hearts turned to stone. The road of good intentions has gone dry as bone. Wow. Hold on. We take care of our own, wherever this flag's flown, we take care of our own. From Chicago to New Orleans, from the muscle to the bone, from the shotgun shack to the superdome. There ain't no help, the cavalry stayed home. Wow! How- mm. Alright. Fascinating. These songs are carefully selected. Yeah, and I don't really even know this song.

2:21:31 I never heard it before. It sounds like a Bruce Springsteen song. No, it's Bruce Springsteen. I know, but most of them sound like a Bruce Springsteen song to me, except a few. But what album was this on? We Take Care of Our Own Springsteen. I don't even know what album this was. And I'm not like a huge super duper... Is this new? I think maybe it was just written for Obama. They should call it King Obama. I think this is... Yeah, this is new, man. Wow I didn't even realize that yeah, I think I think this is new came out in This year at least hmm interesting wait. Oh well there you go groovy. Thanks Anyway, I cheered yep. Yeah, no There's a little news that wasn't reported much here. Yeah Play the Rand Paul on Pakistan clip

CHAPTER 33 / 36 Discussion

Rand Paul, Pakistan Foreign Aid Freeze

Senator Rand Paul has called for a freeze on all U.S. aid to Pakistan until the release of Dr. Shaquille Afridi, who assisted the CIA in locating Osama bin Laden. Paul argued that the U.S. should not provide billions in annual assistance to a government that tortures individuals who aid American priorities. The Obama administration currently provides approximately $2.1 billion in annual aid to the country.

rand paul· pakistan· shaquille afridi· foreign aid· harry reid

2:22:40 And now for all the details. A top US senator has sought an early vote on his bill seeking to freeze all aid to Islamabad till the release of Shaquille Afridi, jailed for helping the CIA track down al-Qaeda's supremo last year. The move comes amid reports that Pakistan considers the US its worst enemy and maintains relations just to extract billions in aid. Senator Rand Paul said the US should not give assistance to Pakistan whose government is torturing the person who helped in the killing of Osama bin Laden. The US government currently gives Pakistan more than $2.1 billion annually in foreign aid and the Obama administration is missing an additional $1.2 billion. No foreign government as blatantly defiant of American priorities as Pakistan should benefit from billions upon billions of American taxpayer dollars. It is time for that practice to come to an end, Senator Paul said in a letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

2:23:39 I'm not liking Rand Paul. I don't care to hear anything about him anymore. I'm not gonna say that you're making a mistake there. I'm finding the guy to be kind of douchey. Yeah, by the way, I'm so slow the chat room finally. I finally caught up with the chat room the new Bruce Springsteen Song is titled we cake we take care of our drone apparently And I think Jeff Smith should be paying attention because there's a song there We take care of our drone That's what we need to be playing at the end of every single Obama speech. We take care of our drone everybody Yeah, Rand Paul's kind of douchey

CHAPTER 34 / 36 Discussion

Isle of Jersey, Child Abuse and Elite Scandals

Journalist Leah McGrath Goodman has been banned from the UK following her investigation into systemic child abuse at an orphanage on the Isle of Jersey. The scandal involves allegations of torture and murder dating back decades, with claims that a full investigation could "bring the entire British government down." The island's status as a tax haven and its unique relationship with the Crown complicate jurisdictional oversight of these crimes.

isle of jersey· leah mcgrath goodman· max keiser· child abuse· marc dutroux

2:24:26 I kept one here at the end. You guys were coming up on our fifth anniversary. Do you recall one of the, well there are a lot of things we were talking about in 2008 when we started. Do you remember the Isle of Jersey and we talked about that back in 2008 and all the weird stuff that was going on up there? Vaguely. So this, so Jersey of course is a huge tax haven. By some speculations, maybe $2 trillion worth of money stored away there. It's kind of weird. It's kind of run by the UK, but it's not. But it's not. It's like, yeah, it's one of these weird... It's a protectorate. Yeah, it's like Gibraltar. Right. And there was a big scandal.

2:25:10 because there's an orphanage and you know they found kid bones you know all and oh yeah there was some sort of perversion going on there right and this is really what started this is how this is part of what started me off for that whole thing in the Netherlands where I get you know they burned down the station everything is you know I started catching on to all these stories about about what's going on with the elites and child abuse, severe child abuse. And so everyone who was investigating this on the Isle of Jersey, you know, the police commissioner, you know, they got arrested, thrown in jail for all kinds of weird stuff. People were removed. People got disappeared. And we have remember Dutroux?

2:25:52 You know, yeah, I know I do remember do true because I actually looked up all that stuff on the internet and started reading it It's like yeah, yeah, then we stopped talking about it because it's so gruesome. Yeah, so do true was also up there with his you know, he sailed a boat up there and this kind of fits into the whole elites and Child abuse which you know, I see quite a large correlation there so there's a reporter Leah McGrath Goodman and she well what was interesting what's interesting about her is that she is kind of opening up about what happened to her in relation to her investigation of this and she's getting a little bit of traction. She was on Max Keiser because of course Jersey is an interesting island when it comes to money and Max Keiser and the Max Keiser report on Russia today.

2:26:48 deals with a lot of that. And I would like to play this two minute clip of her explaining exactly what she found out, what happened and what she thinks is going on and why she is... well, she's been banned from even entering the UK now. And I'd like to play that kind of as a callback. From entering the UK? Yes. No, she's been banned from entering the UK. Wow. Because she was investigating what was happening on the Isle of Jersey. And this will just get you started and take along with that that Dutroux's wife, who was also incarcerated, she was just recently let out because, I guess they had like life sentences or whatever, she was let out of jail because for good behavior and she can go live in a convent or some bull crap like that.

2:27:39 You just have to bear in mind that when elites run the show, that they kind of take care of their own and well, draw your own conclusions. But this is kind of a fifth anniversary special look back at stuff we were talking about then coming around full circle in its own little mini cycle. All right, now let's talk about the story itself. Basically, the story that you're covering, sex crimes in Jersey, correct? Can you talk a little bit about this? Yeah, probably to be more accurate. Jersey has a really polished international reputation as a tax haven, but internally it has a lot of political problems ever since. Scandals involving an orphanage in 2008 where it seems that for decades children were allegedly tortured, raped, murdered, and there were many victims who are still alive who can tell their stories very clearly. They're being completely ignored.

2:28:31 and my feeling is that it does need to be investigated more thoroughly and they need to be able to speak their truth. Everyone who has come near this particular scandal, to look into it from the policemen to the health minister, have all been either driven off the island or thrown out of their jobs. It's been very bad and it seems like there's a big effort to try to keep eyes away. Okay, so this is shaping up to be really quite a scandal. It has all of the underhanded and disgusting sex crimes of a Penn State football team story, combined with the underhanded market rigging of LIBOR. Now how high up does this cover-up go? And if there was somebody or an entity or an authority in place to stop the crimes, both the child abuse and the financial abuse, who would be that entity? What's the jurisdiction there in Jersey?

2:29:24 Well, Jersey is really interesting. It's almost like a special purpose vehicle of the Crown. So the Crown can be more or less as associated as it wants to be with Jersey or as not. So, effectively, the Queen could step in, but of course just really doesn't ever do that. And so Jersey runs itself more or less. That said, the head of the police, all of the police in Jersey and the sort of diplomatic head of police, he was told while he was investigating this orphanage by those running the government that the chief minister in particular said, you don't understand, this could bring the entire British government down.

2:30:02 So I assume it goes very high and that there are strong reasons why they don't want people looking into it But again until I'm allowed back into the UK to investigate it I'm not going to know and the world isn't going to really know whatever happened to these poor children The whole UK government could come down. Hell yeah. Well, that's not gonna happen. No And it was nice knowing you Leah McGrath Goodman Max Keiser's the worst interviewer. Yeah, he sounds like what does he have his head in a bucket when he's talking? Yeah, it's Russia today, man. You know, that's really not all that good. Really not all that good. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we'd be a little remiss if we didn't mention that the FISA wireless wiretap renewal bill has been signed.

CHAPTER 35 / 36 Discussion

FISA Renewal, National Emergency Extension

The FISA wireless wiretap renewal bill has been signed, authorizing five more years of government surveillance on American citizens. Additionally, the President has re-upped the state of national emergency originally declared on September 14, 2001, for the 12th consecutive year. These extensions of executive power are typically published in the Federal Register without significant press coverage.

fisa· wiretapping· national emergency· federal register· spying

2:30:55 authorizing five more years of spying on American citizens. Because of course, you know, no one will mention that. We need to spy on American citizens. What? We need to spy on American citizens. They're so evil. Yeah, definitely. I totally need to spy on them. Let's see how much... Are they watching Here Comes Honey Boo Boo or not? If you're not watching Honey Boo Boo, I want a patch. I want a yellow star patch that says populist. That's a good one. Let's look into the patch business or maybe something. I think there's something there. Stencils on the ground and patch on the chest. I think that's where we need to be.

2:31:37 Patches and then the president also re-upped the this is only in the federal register. He re-upped the Special powers for the emergency signed initially on September 14th 2001 And we are still in a state of emergency So all of the powers that the president has have been re-upped for another year. Well, that's a shocker Yeah, and that's now 12 years running. I And there's no press release this just shows up in the Federal Register Bad Chad there in Colorado has been monitoring the Register for me, and he's always coming up with this crazy stuff. We need to do more looking at the Federal Register That's really yeah, there's probably a lot of stuff being slipped by yeah, that's all the good stuff is in there for sure so on Sunday show yes, which is 444

CHAPTER 36 / 36 Discussion

Mitt Romney Tax Returns, Bank of America Car Chase

Speculation regarding Mitt Romney's refusal to release his tax returns includes theories about illegitimate children or unusual charitable donations. Meanwhile, a dramatic car chase in Los Angeles following a Bank of America robbery saw suspects throwing cash out of their vehicle windows to crowds of onlookers. The event provided a significant media distraction during the launch of the iPhone 5.

mitt romney· bank of america· los angeles· car chase· iphone 5

2:32:27 444 444 which means for hold on a second we are Episode 444 vorac org slash and a just trying to program their brain messaging. Yes I wasn't messaging anything No not here so Buzzkill Jr. came up probably with the best theory I've ever heard as to why Romney is not releasing his tax forms. Illegitimate children. And no one would ever, I mean once you hear the theory... Do I get more guesses? Do I get more guesses? You can guess all you want.

2:33:12 You're not gonna get it. Okay, well... I'll give you two more guesses and then on Sunday we'll reveal the answer. Oh, you're not gonna tell me now? No, because I want to save it to Sunday. Because nobody listens to the- we're so deep into the show people are gonna miss this and it's actually a really good one. Do you know I'm surprised how many people do listen to the end of the show? Yeah, I am too. Since the show is three hours. Only they listen to it five weeks after we've done it, which is always the unfortunate thing. Yeah, I just finished a show of 3.52. So it is not illegitimate children. Could it be... what else could it be? Something with his... he gave away money.

2:33:52 Charitable donations that are weird or am I okay there? What do you think you keep going try again and the last one is He has 15 dependents Well that could be too Actually all these could be possible All right, well this is like. This is a big tease John. This is a big huge a big tease huge huge We need to do more teasing. Yeah, I sure do I Okay, well, you know who knows we could be at war with In every country that we've overthrown in all of them. We never know what can happen. We will keep our eyes peeled for you of course as always as we like to do and I'm sure there's some legislation. We're still waiting for President Obama's executive order on Cyber security that's been rumored to happen which I thought the whole

2:34:48 You know that whole GoDaddy thing was gonna be used for it, but that turns out that was just bad routing Yeah, they need something bigger and an actual hack and now I wanted to ask you John did you see the? The any of the iPhone 5 coverage yeah Because I was watching and then all of a sudden I heard that there was this Car chase in LA where the guys were throwing money out the window and you quickly turned to that that was so much more entertaining Did you see that? No. Oh, it was fantastic. Some guys robbed a Bank of America.

2:35:25 And then they took off driving through the streets of LA with 18 cop cars chasing him and they're throwing money out the window and this is going on for an hour and because this is live on TV people are out on the corners going, cheering for them saying throw me money and then the guys would throw money out and the human resources sheeple would walk right in front of the cop cars to grab the money that the bank robbers had thrown on the street. It was beautiful! Very well, there's a movie in this. It was... maybe it was, maybe it wasn't just a movie. It was better than any of that other stuff. That's for sure. Well, maybe the whole thing is orchestrated by Google.

2:36:06 Distract people from the iPhone 5, which is a snooze, but okay. Yeah. Hey, coming to you from the capital of the drone star state, where we take care of our drone, it's Austin, Texas, here at Camp MoFo in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm still contemplating baking a cake with a fish in it. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda.