Episode 432 · Sunday, 5 August 2012

Felonious Bears

From the unscripted rhetoric of the White House to the suspicious paraglider plots in Spain, the Denver tour stop uncovers the hidden mechanics of global control.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 432

About this episode

Barack Obama sparked a national debate over individual achievement following his unscripted "you didn't build that" remarks, which critics suggest reveals a deep-seated collectivist ideology. In Denver, a local mechanic and a firefighter joined the No Agenda tour to detail the systemic abuse of the 911 emergency system by lonely "frequent flyers" seeking social interaction rather than medical care. Meanwhile, the aviation world is buzzing over a custom Jeppesen approach plate created for Gitmo Nation International Airport, a rare honor previously reserved for figures like Harrison Ford and Sully Sullenberger.

Geopolitical tensions rise as Defense Secretary Leon Panetta signals a strategic shift regarding Iran, while U.S. troops at the National Training Center reportedly prepare for insurgency scenarios. In Syria, the resignation of Kofi Annan as UN-Arab League envoy marks a definitive deadlock in peace negotiations, leaving Senator John McCain to advocate for increased military intervention. Beyond the Middle East, Spanish authorities in Madrid arrested three Al-Qaeda suspects of Chechen and Turkish origin for an alleged plot involving motorized paragliders, though the lack of physical explosives has led to skepticism regarding the official narrative. In the financial sector, Iceland continues its unique recovery by jailing bankers and indicting former Prime Minister Geir Haarde, contrasting sharply with the lack of accountability in the United States and Greece.

NASA prepares for the Mars Curiosity rover landing, a mission the hosts frame as a potential $2 billion component of the Project Blue Beam conspiracy theory. The "seven minutes of terror" promotional campaign is dismissed as a high-budget 3D rendering designed to justify shifting public funds to private entities like SpaceX. Between discussions of Dutch field hockey and the etiquette of avoiding strangers on public transit, the episode captures the eccentric energy of the Colorado road tour through the lens of Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak.


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CHAPTER 01 / 50 Discussion

Introduction, Denver Underground Bases and Mustang Sally

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 432 of the No Agenda show from Denver, Colorado, and Northern Silicon Valley. They discuss the physical toll of traveling at high altitudes and the noise of the "Mustang Sally" vehicle parked nearby. The hosts welcome the live chat room and listeners across the globe, referring to them as human resources and boots on the ground.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· denver· gitmo nation· mustang sally· stargate

00:00 Doctor Cindy, come here! My knee hurts! Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Act. It's Sunday, August 5th, 2012. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 432! This is no agenda. Just 60 miles north of the Stargate here in Gitmo Nation underground bases in Denver, Colorado. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm near none of that crap, I'm John C. Dvorak. You sound like you're half asleep. I feel like I'm half asleep. You feel like you're half asleep. Try being at altitude. This stuff is hard. Yeah. So, uh... In the morning to you, grumpy pants. In the morning to you, Adam. Wow.

00:56 What happened? I'll wake up eventually. You alright man? You okay? I got the wrong number of sleep hours or something. Oh, no, it's you have to have the uneven number right? Seven. Well, seven is your absolute perfect number of sleep hours, according to the experts. You'd live longer. I got seven. But I had a really bad night the previous night. That's to say also a hello, good morning in the morning to all the ships that seem boots on the ground and subs in the water. And in the morning to the chat room, all of our human resources there, they are lined up ready to go. Listen to that. There's Miss Mickey taking off again. Do you hear that?

01:32 No, I don't hear it. I guess you turned way down because you're too loud in here. Well, the people actually listening to the show will be able to hear it. I'm listening to the show now. You don't hear it though. Mustang sound, you can hear that thing from three blocks away. What, they put glass pipes on it? Yeah, a glass pack muffler. I don't know what they put on it, but it's louder than it was. That's hilarious. Yeah, no Let me see that thing out of does that thing have a v8 in it. Yeah, it does. It's the big guys Yeah, it's a big block a big block six. Yeah, no eight here listen to it I Can hear that do you remember on the previous show when? When miss Mickey fired up Mustang Sally near the end there. You know what was going on our? Erked no no no our

CHAPTER 02 / 50 Discussion

Obama "You Didn't Build That" Comment, Mechanic Anecdote

A local mechanic in Denver questions the hosts about the show's content while repairing a vehicle's power steering. The conversation shifts to President Barack Obama's recent "you didn't build that" remarks regarding small businesses and government infrastructure. The hosts suggest the comment was an unscripted ad-lib that reveals the President's true ideology regarding collective effort versus individual achievement.

barack obama· chad christian· small business· infrastructure· ad-libbing· government roads

02:30 Our gracious host, Chad Christian, who now we're back with him. I'll explain how that works in a second because of course this is still the 2009 tour. So he heard me talking about the the power steering and he'd immediately called some guy Bob Bobby and Bobby was came over and they were fixing it right there in the driveway while the show was going but this Bobby guy this is amazing so I after the show you know I get out of the sin bin whatever he's kind of rendering or whatever and and I meet this guy he's kind of like like a you know he's got a Hulk Hogan scully cap you know kind of

03:09 You know, like, uh, late 50s. A do-rag. Yeah, one of these guys. He's like, hey, what's that noagendashow.com thing? Is that like Glenn Beck? I said, no, no, I like me some Glenn Beck. I'm like, okay, well, you might like better than Glenn Beck. Well, that's what I said. He said, Yeah, cuz you know, stuff's messed up. Said, Well, yeah, yeah. He says, You know, I opened this hood of this car. I almost expected Obama to pop out and said, I built this engine. Yeah, they're all playing on that. Yeah, but this is you know propagating this is a good by the way I think the president I think that that was unscripted I think he went off script when he said that yeah because he's been getting nothing but grief I think that he well he thinks he's an ad-libber you know he thinks it's so funny yeah well I think he screwed it up with that one and that was never intended but that's probably the way he actually thinks

04:02 Yeah, no, I believe it is that's what that's why I came out He says you know I don't know I've got to say this because it's people don't get it. Yeah, but nobody does anything for themselves It's a group effort. Yeah, if it wasn't for the roads You wouldn't have a business if it wasn't for the police you wouldn't have a business you can't build a business Yeah, you can't do that without us That is so you should be thanking us but a lot of people as I read around the webs and A lot of people actually buy into what he's saying. Oh yeah, well they're losers. Okay, well besides that. But how is it possible? There's people who have never actually done anything. You know, Chad was telling me, now Chad is a firefighter EMS worker here in Denver, and he's telling me it's so sad, so incredibly sad how many people have figured out how to take advantage of the system.

CHAPTER 03 / 50 Discussion

Emergency System Abuse, Frequent Flyers and Lonely Patients

A Denver firefighter and EMS worker reports widespread abuse of the 911 system by individuals who use emergency services for non-medical tasks, such as retrieving cigarettes. These "frequent flyers" often call for help due to loneliness rather than medical necessity. The discussion extends to how socialized medicine systems often become social outlets for lonely people, a phenomenon also observed by dental hygienists.

911 abuse· emergency medical services· denver· socialized medicine· dental hygienists· frequent flyers

04:58 So they'll, you know, and they figured out how to do it so that, you know, if they, basically they're too lazy or too obese or whatever to literally get up and walk to the other side of the room to pick something up. So they'll call 911 and say, you know, like, I have chest pains because that apparently warrants an immediate, you know, there's no questions asked, they deploy. And they'll come in and then you know there's some some old bag will be sitting there. Oh, yeah I got chest pains, but could you could you just grab my cigarettes there from the other side of the room? Yeah, and they have people who they call them frequent flyers like 10,000 times they've been taken to the hospital and but it's just people have figured out how to take advantage of the system and he says really it's It's disenheartening disenchanting Disheartening yeah

05:47 It's really rampant. Yeah, I think there's a lot of that that goes on and you know somebody was explaining to me once the problem with socialized medicine in general is that there's a lot of, especially in the United States which is white, might not be the best thing for us. There's a lot of lonely people. Yeah. And so they make just a million appointments with the doctor so they can just go in and have somebody to chat with. And have a chat. Yeah. Well that's, now it's funny you mention that because Christy, his wife, She's a dental hygienist and she says, you know, we actually are just social workers. You have no idea, she says, what people will sit in that chair and just tell you about. That's all, you know, it's crazy. People, yeah, lonely people. Lonely people.

CHAPTER 04 / 50 Discussion

Podcast Branding, Sir Jeff Smith Jingles

The hosts credit Sir Jeff Smith for his high-quality production work on the show's jingles and branding. They describe how catchy audio branding can lead to mental loops where the brain repeats jingles during periods of exhaustion. The segment emphasizes the effectiveness of professional audio production in making a brand or product memorable to an audience.

sir jeff smith· branding· jingles· podcasting· mental loops· marketing

06:35 And now you bring up the Beatles song. And let's face it, if you and I didn't have each other, we'd be lonely people. Do you know, did you talk to the guy, what's his name, the mechanic about the show? About why he should be listening to it? Yeah. Did you tell him the real, the absolute, what the show's really all about and what he should be listening, why he should be listening to this show? Well, um, what I did is I turned on the loudspeakers and I said... The best podcast in the universe! Wow. It took me a second to catch on that you were rolling out the script there, but I luckily I caught it just in time. I thought you were gonna just... No, I discussed with him some other things though. We went to the library together. It's like we got this jingle from the Jeff Smith, Sir Jeff Smith, and let me just play it again because it's so awesome. The best podcast in the universe!

07:32 And then John does like the the thing that we know never ever works, and he says okay Here's how we're gonna roll it out. I'll ask you this and then you say that and then you play the jingle like oh god I'm gonna know I'm gonna mess this up. It's not gonna work Once well we have to have some stick well, thank you. Thank you so much, sir Jeff Smith. It's like right on the money Again this guy is so talented If you if you're looking if you want people to remember your show your product your brand whatever it is You got to have sir, Jeff Smith get to Make something for you because this stuff just works. You know when I'm tired

08:11 Like really tired like now on this trip, which is yeah, I think it's a combination of the traveling the meetups although fantastic obviously are little draining because you know, there's like, you know, we had almost 40 people in Denver and well, you know, you want to talk to everybody and everyone has a story and you know, so it's just tiring and But then what happens is my brain goes into some kind of loop mode and I catch myself repeating things over and over and I'd have to say 95% of the time it's our own damn jingles. It's really, I catch my brain's going... And you'll catch yourself after, you know, like half an hour like, huh! And then you have to think of something else and then that'll go into a loop. It's, you know, I'm, I don't know.

CHAPTER 05 / 50 Discussion

Hot Pockets Tour Logistics, Bandwidth Challenges

The hosts discuss the difficulties of producing a show while on the "Hot Pockets" road tour, specifically the lack of internet bandwidth for researching legislation. Despite the exhaustion and the impact on their regular work schedules, they acknowledge the benefit of seeing the country and meeting listeners. There is a lighthearted debate about whether the tour was a result of a conspiracy between one host's wife and the other co-host.

hot pockets tour· travel· bandwidth· legislation· road trip· work-life balance

08:59 It's not- not- things are not well. Things are not well with me here on the road. I'm very tired. Well you hate, you know, I was, I'm actually, we discussed this at the family, during the family meetings. Uh-huh, the DeVory family meetings, which I've been trying to explain to people by the way. So anyway, so that we discussed it. Why is he doing this? Why is he going on the Hot Pockets tour? And then somebody, I think it was at the office, says to me, oh you know, he really must love driving. Yeah. Yeah, that's fine. I don't think you really want I remember after the last tour you were

09:36 Just moaning about it to such an extreme you were so annoyed by the amount of effort you have to put into I miss a lot of work it is and so and so you when you get back you'd never again Did I say that I don't think I saw ya. Oh, yeah, no never again and never again No, I was there was fine, and then there was about I said ah I said this is bullcrap because I'm sure we can get him to do it again And you and Mickey connived against me what Mickey played it by ear and she actually did She just kind of, you know, it was a lot of fun and she started telling me this and the first time I broached it I said, yeah, you ought to go again. This summer's coming up, you should do it. And then you reminded yourself that it wasn't good so I let it slide a little longer so you could, it's like having a broken arm or something. Wait a minute, are you saying that you guys tricked me?

10:24 I don't know, nobody tricks you anyway. Now listen, let me tell you this. So the driving, I don't mind the driving and you know the heat has been kind of outrageous. The thing that is, that really bothers me is not being able to do my work. You know there's just no, there's really no chance to look at some legislation, kick back, check it out. And that's mainly because there's no bandwidth on the road, you really can't Download stuff, you know, and then we're doing engine management and all this stuff the the upside of course is we see some beautiful parts of the country which Nikki has certainly never seen before as a lot of it. I haven't seen and meeting our producers and

CHAPTER 06 / 50 Discussion

Denver Meetup, Rex Establishment Marquee

A listener-organized meetup in Denver drew approximately 40 people to a local establishment called Rex. The organizer arranged for a custom message on the venue's marquee welcoming the "No Agenda Hot Pockets 09" tour. The hosts express surprise and gratitude for the level of enthusiasm and coordination shown by the local producer community.

denver· meetup· rex· marquee· producers· community building

11:05 Yeah, and I've said I said I know I said this last year that is absolutely amazing. We have some outstanding human resources Who are listening and participating in this program? We had a meet up here in Denver at at Rex and I and I know that the all of me by the way, Mickey's gonna upload stuff to Flickr so we can have a You know, so we can have like a non-Facebook entity for the pictures. Oh, I can actually see the photos now. Well, so we roll up to Rex and our producer there who arranged everything was... Hold on a second. Why do I feel like such a dork now? Okay, it'll come to me in a moment. So he had rented out basically a balcony

11:57 outside on top of this establishment and it had a marquee and the marquee literally read Rex welcomes no agenda hot pockets 09 how cool is that? Yeah. Particularly because he said I called the guy and I wanted to reserve the space And I said, yeah, you want anything in the marquee? He said, yeah, yeah, I want no agenda hot pockets 09. The guy said, I guess I just won't ask you any questions about that. Yeah, that's probably a good idea. So 40, about 40 people. It's just amazing. The level of enthusiasm here in the area. No, I don't think we had any feds in this meetup. We did in

CHAPTER 07 / 50 Discussion

Jeppesen Aviation Porn, Gitmo Nation Approach Plate

The aviation charting company Jeppesen created a custom, official-style approach plate for "Gitmo Nation International Airport" as a gift for one of the hosts. This specialized document features show-specific terminology like "Crackpot Command Center" and "Ministry of Truth Tower." Only a few individuals, including Harrison Ford and Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger, have received similar personalized charts from the company.

jeppesen· aviation charts· harrison ford· scully sullenberger· approach plate· gitmo nation international airport

12:48 Colorado Springs although I got the most awesome porn thing ever you know the you ever heard of Jeppesen you know the company Jeppesen I have actually so Jeppesen makes all the aviation charts they make all the the maps of the airwaves like they're pretty much the The market leaders the only game in town really and they are a Denver company. They started doing this back when the US Postal Service started delivering mail by air and then they started That's when the company was started and they charted everything so for every single airport in the world you have what's known as an approach plate and it's a one sheet and And it's the same everywhere

13:34 And it has all of the beacons, like the VORs, it has the instrument landing system instructions, it has if there's any weird things in the area, it has your glide path, your frequencies. And they made up a special approach plate, an official Jefferson approach plate for KGMO IE Gitmo Nation International Airport And and by the way, there's only three people in the world who have a specialized approach plate from Jefferson One is Harrison Ford. The other one is Scully Sullenberger, you know the Hudson dude and me so it's like but you know it's so it's a first of all it's aviation porn But then everything is in no agenda language So we have like point crackpot point buzzkill point Mickey. There's a big big void on the map It says you know information nothing to see here. It's got glide slope 0 6 9 or degrees and

14:33 You know, it's got 33's everywhere It's Ministry of Truth Tower pedo approach frequency crackpot command center frequency It's there's only probably only 10 people in the world who can actually under appreciate how cool this is But I'm very very proud of that. It's nice and you know, it's framed and everything so that that was like wow I was here's the Upon missed approach climb to 600 feet turn left go back to real news and hold yeah It's cute. Yeah, it's very cool. I'll make sure I post a picture of it as well print copies No, man. This is well actually I might be able to do that

CHAPTER 08 / 50 Discussion

Colorado Springs Meetup, Military Pension Concerns

During a meetup in Colorado Springs near NORAD, the hosts spoke with military personnel, including an NSA Arabic linguist. These service members expressed significant concern over the politicization of military budget cuts and the potential reduction of their pensions. The discussion notes a historical pattern of the U.S. government failing to fulfill financial promises to veterans after major conflicts.

colorado springs· nsa· arabic linguists· military budget· pensions· norad

15:16 So, we were in Denver, then we unhitched from the Sin Bin, of course now with the power steering fixed, which was fantastic. Thank you very much, producer Chad Christian for taking care of that for us. And we drove to Colorado Springs. In Colorado Springs, we had a meetup. Which was a much smaller meetup, but of course, you know, it's kind of a little more remote area. Although right there, that is basically where the Stargate is, where NORAD is. I mean, that's the center of the universe when it comes to Gitmo Nation.

15:56 and Robert Seals organized the meetup and he also arranged for a cabin in the RV park, in the Garden of the Gods RV park for us to sleep in. And there was a lot of great people at this meetup, including two military guys, one of which is in the NSA. Military and in the NSA? Yeah, NSA. I think he used to be NSA Georgia. But he is he's a Arabic linguist. Oh Uh-huh, they fired all of those guys. Well of course. I'm still I'm getting interested right. I'm saying well, so the stuff that we play How are those translations? He said let me just tell you As you know what we're taught as Arab linguists is pretty much the equivalent of King James English

16:52 It's just we don't understand. They don't understand thing. It's it's so poor the level of our of our Linguistic capabilities now he's in analysis. I think so that's a little bit easier for him but I can't talk about everything that I was told but The one thing I will say that all these guys are very, very, very worried about how they are being politicized in these military budget cuts, because they all know that the budget cuts, it's not about, you know, about the next stealth aircraft. It's not about the next missile. It's all about the troops. And these guys are actually going to get screwed. They're not going to get their pensions or their pensions are going to be a bit less. In fact, the other guy who was there,

17:35 Was like happy that it was going to get us 401k. I mean this is uh, this is There's unhappiness I would say amongst our uh, our armed forces the actual human resources of the armed forces and they're also pretty sick and tired of uh, Being deployed again. It's it was really quite evident Well, yeah. Yeah, I think it's very evident. I think uh This is nothing new. We've always treated our military, even though we talk a big game, the government's always treated the military like crap, historically. They did it after the Civil War, they wouldn't give guys their pensions. They did it after World War I. In fact, there was a whole, there was an encampment outside the White House.

18:20 and it was even during the Roosevelt administration they had to send troops. Oh that's right I remember that. To beat the crap out of these ex-soldiers because they weren't getting their pensions and it's always to screw them out of the pensions. And they only put up with it for so long and then they make a big stink about it and some of them get their money that they're owed and some of them don't. And this is a long, long, this has gone on forever and it's just a common, it's kind of an eye roller how often it continues because it's almost like it's policy. I don't worry about it, we'll just screw them later. Yeah, but they're on to it, they're not liking it and meanwhile... They've always been on to it, and they've always been not liking it, but it doesn't help.

CHAPTER 09 / 50 Discussion

Iran Insurgency Training, Leon Panetta Strategy

Reports from the National Training Center suggest that U.S. troops are practicing for a potential insurgency scenario in Iran. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta's recent actions are interpreted as a sign of internal conflict within the administration regarding the feasibility of military action against Iran. The hosts suggest that the U.S. may be distancing itself from potential Israeli military initiatives in the region.

iran· leon panetta· pentagon· insurgency· israel· military training

19:05 Well, these days I wanted to press anybody. Yeah, thanks. There is a lot of training activity going on though at NTC, the National Training Center, which is essentially in the desert. And the training they're doing, from the way I understand it, is pretty much the type of training you'd expect for insurgency in Iran. And none of these guys are happy with that. They think it's going to be if we actually were to go and bomb Iran, they all know that the Iranian people who hate their own government will of course then just start an insurgency like we've never seen before and they're all kind of worried about that because they just don't want to... Yeah well I think that's why Panetta was out because I think Panetta was sent over to the Pentagon to stir up something and then he seems to have turned on the plan

20:03 It seems to me, I could be wrong in this interpretation, but he seems to have turned on the plan because the information is not good regarding Iran and also I think there's a lot of indications that we're not going to back Israel if they do anything. I mean it's just an awkward situation. It's a mess. Yeah, it is a mess. Anyway, our armed forces, we do have a lot of listeners. And, uh, and I, and they like what we're doing. Everybody likes what we're doing. And you know why? Yes I do, John, because we are... The Best Podcast In The Universe! Alright, uh, so why don't I start off with an executive producer from a donation here in Colorado, uh, Devin Ostendorf.

CHAPTER 10 / 50 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Value for Value Donations

The hosts acknowledge high-tier donors, including Chris the Viking and Devin Ostendorf, who contributed significant funds to support the show. They explain the "value for value" model, where listeners provide financial support in exchange for the content they receive. Several individuals are granted titles of Executive Producer or Associate Executive Producer for their contributions, including mechanical repairs and hosting services during the tour.

knighthood· chris the viking· carlson· bernie adama· chad christian· value for value

20:59 Completed his knighthood on the spot, and I also knighted him John and I we have pictures of the knighting I knighted him with your head on a stick using that as a sword But we will give him an official ceremony later on during our donation segment. He came in with his final six hundred and sixty six dollars and sixty six cents as the Gitmo Nation Central Command beef jerky and Mountain Dew fund and let me see I think he has a letter which maybe I'll read during the donation segment itself. Well we might as well do our executive producers right off the top and then we can you read that letter now if you want. Okay why don't you get it going while I find it. Okay well we have a couple we have one executive two executive producers plus our other night uh

21:44 For today's show plus a associate executive there number one executive producers Chris the Viking From Philly and he came in with a thousand dollars straight up. He's Chris the Viking instant night He sent you a email. Yeah from CK Lusk yeah, I have it. It's it's Okay title of the email, and I think you know since he of course is a Since he is a an instant night. We should probably read some of it type up the email subject aliens, man I guess well you can watch you save that email for the second half of the show. Are you sure? Yes, well pretty sure it's it's okay. It's one of his own. I'll just read the beginning to get you into it. Oh

22:30 But enjoying the show since a couple of months before the last tour. I do appreciate all the deconstruction you and John do. I like you guys, so I'll send you a K. A K, baby! To the PayPal's as a thank you. Just the real reason I contacted you, September 21st prediction. You predicted up from the crop circle stuff. For one crop circles and everyone involved in them can't be relied on. It's all hoaxes even if they're not very easy to make. You must assume it's a hoax. So he's anti crop circle, but the rest of the note we will read during our donation segment, which I think you or the second half of the show, which you'll find very interesting. Okay. And we appreciate Carlson from St. Paul, Minnesota came in at 333 33. Thanks for all the great episodes and last laughs over the last year. A little karma come my way and thought I'd pass it on to you. Last time I donated promised a longer note.

23:22 when I could be an executive producer. I guess the time is now but I can't remember all the things I wanted to complain about. I guess they weren't really that important. Meanwhile, I just have a few favorites. Pipeline episode, he wants to mention, Pipeline episode, the healthcare debate, anytime you guys fight on the air, and Huntsman Karma. Speaking of which, send me a hey citizen Huntsman Karma to my MILF who is starting a new school year soon in a tough district. Alright, hey citizen Huntsman karma here we go. Hey citizen You've got karma And then we have Bernie a team and hit in Iowa came in to an authority to be a tama. That's right It is a tama

24:08 Anyway, Bernie Adama in Hinton, Iowa who came in at 230 be associate executive producer Is to make his son John Adama is his first son So let's make a note John Adam associate producer today shows for his birthday. Oh nice lives in Aurora. Oh right down to somewhere. Met Adam and Mickey at the meetup on Thursday. Oh, okay. Yeah. He said it was a great time. Please give him a Gitmo Nation National Anthem. We'll maybe do that at the end of the show. That's a very long clip we don't like to just casually throw out there. I'm adding another 30 to even out my donations and another 50 should have been sent toward my knighthood. Have a safe trip back.

24:47 As always the best to you guys. No, it's very kind So yeah, we'll play the anthem at the end of the show for sure for sure for you and then I would like to call out Chad Christian as associate executive producer of this episode for his contribution towards not just hosting us for a total of three nights and Here and and cooking for us and taking care of us, but also for Taking care of the repairs to Mustang Sally. So we highly I think sounds like it's just these repairs all the time No, it's only it's only been the muffler and the and the power steering which we should be good like enough. We should be good So, of course, these are have a Lexus that's 20 years old and has never burnt out a light bulb in the entire car Oh, yeah, the taillight is also out

25:34 Just a reminder. What can I tell you? So these of course are real credits, unlike the phonies in Hollywood who will gladly give you a credit in exchange for value for value, or what they call value for some crappy ass show. You can actually contact us if you need us to vouch for you to let someone know that you are indeed an executive or associate executive producer. And of course we would love everyone else to go out there and do what you can including propagating the formula. Our formula is this. We go out, We hit people in the mouth. You can also go to noagendashow.com and noagendanation.com and click on the donate button. And a quick reminder, I met Michael Breed here in Denver. He is the proprietor of noagendaguns.com. Remember that 100% of the profit from each sale goes to the show and he said he's had zero takers so far.

CHAPTER 11 / 50 Discussion

Chick-fil-A Publicity Stunts, PR Executive Death

The hosts briefly address the media frenzy surrounding Chick-fil-A, characterizing the various protests and "kiss-a-thons" as successful publicity stunts. They mention the sudden death of a PR executive at the company following the initial controversy. The segment concludes that the media coverage has significantly increased brand awareness for the fast-food chain.

chick-fil-a· marketing· publicity stunt· kiss-a-thon· mason-dixon line

26:50 So I figured I'd give him another PR shot there, noagendaguns.com. The second attempt. Yes, attempt number two. So before we go on any meat, I do have one little article I ran into because I was following the phony baloney publicity stunt. Now which one did you follow? The chick phony. fillet. A company no one north of the Mason Dixon line has ever heard of. Now everybody knows who they are. It was actually somebody that was attracted to one marketing guy at the company and apparently the guy just died. Yeah, the PR guy. He had a cold.

27:27 Yeah, he got the flu. Boom, dead. Whatever the case is, they've been getting publicity. Now they got the kiss-a-thon where they're kissing. More publicity. More publicity, but so we're gonna not talk about it. Hey honey, let's go watch them gay guys kiss him and have some food. Yeah, and look, there's a logo back behind him. What's that say? Chick-fil-A. How about that? Chick-fil-A, yeah. So, there was an article that showed up in the Yahoo and this is a once in a while on our show we do have personal tips that kind of supersede some of the other elements of the show and I have a personal tip. This is an article that's in the Yahoo News written by this Eric Pfeiffer.

CHAPTER 12 / 50 Discussion

Yale Study, Avoiding Strangers on Public Transit

A Yale study on how to prevent strangers from sitting next to you on buses or planes is discussed. While the study suggests looking busy or avoiding eye contact, the hosts propose that wearing a medical mask is the most effective deterrent. One host recounts a successful experience on a Southwest flight where a passenger used a mask to keep an adjacent seat empty.

yale university· public transit· social engineering· medical masks· southwest airlines

28:05 And it's called how to and this relates to what we said earlier in the show about the lonely American how to keep strangers from sitting next to you. Apparently a study was done at Yale. Yeah about what you do because a lot of people you know when you're on a bus or plane and you don't want anyone sitting next to you. No because they might be annoying. That's the main reason or weird they put in this article they talk about different tricks checking your phone rummaging through a bed bending over not looking making eye contact all these Sitting in the aisle and putting your bag on the seat on the window seat. That's one way yeah, I've seen that that's really bad when I see that I always say hey who's sitting there my bag

28:46 move it good move it I'm coming in I think it was George Carlin who had the idea where you get on the airplane you get on the aisle seat and then you as person walks by says is anyone sitting there and then you say yes Jesus Hey, that's a good one. I like that. Yeah, if you can pull it off, it probably does work. But you have to have a funny look on your face and be glassy-eyed. Now, I'll tell you, here's the trick that's not mentioned by this study or anyone else. And I tell you, this is the best way to get people not to sit next to you under any circumstance wherever you are. Put on one of those medical masks. As long as you're not Asian, it'll work.

29:30 Yeah, no, Asians always wear them anyway. But yeah, now you can if you put the mask on because I this happened to me in a completely full Southwestern flight. I was sitting there was a woman at the window and there was an aisle seat right in the front row. And this thing was full except for one empty seat. And so I sat in the aisle and then this woman put on the mask. And it was the funniest thing to watch. Everyone came by, they wanted that seat because it's a perfect seat to get out right away. They looked at the seat, they looked at her, they looked at the seat, they looked at her and then they kept going. Walked on, walked on. Nobody ever sat there. That's almost like the, I think it was a flash game in the early days of flash on the internet. It was a game called urinal etiquette.

CHAPTER 13 / 50 Discussion

Urinal Etiquette, Social Distancing Tactics

The conversation shifts to the unspoken rules of male urinal etiquette, referencing an old internet flash game on the subject. The hosts brainstorm further ways to ensure personal space while traveling, such as appearing physically ill or sweaty. They caution that appearing too sick might lead to being removed from a flight by airline staff.

urinal etiquette· flash games· social behavior· hygiene· travel tips

30:16 Have you ever seen that? And it's like different screens like okay, so there's a guy at the urinal and then there's an uh, And there's like two empty urinals and another and it's like, you know, which urinal are you supposed to choose? Yeah, where are you supposed to stand? And it's so true because guys walk in they go like well I don't want to stand next to the guy, you know, let me see. But wait a minute if there's you know, it's it's like cool Here's a real option with the urinal problem You've got the urinal, urinal, urinal and the only one that's where it should be where you'd want to actually go to it because it's far away from the guy is peeing is one of those little bitty ones way down this road. No, no, no, no, I don't want that one because that's like splashes back and then it looks like you peed your pants. Yeah, those are no good for little kids. Yeah. Or people in wheelchairs, I think.

31:00 I don't know what they're for. But anyway, so the mask works and if you really wanted to take it to the next level get one of those, you know, misting bottle and spray your forehead so you're kind of wet. You're sweaty, you're looking sweaty. I guarantee no one's sitting next to you. We're gonna try this. This is good. So, well, Miss Mickey and I often travel and then, you know, we'll get like window seat and the middle seat and of course we'd love to have aisle seat, empty seat, window seat. So we'll both get a mask and we'll both be just wearing the mask with like with the sprayed on wetness? Yeah, on the airplane I think you have to be careful about using the spray because I thought about this. I've given this thought. Is that if they see you with the wet, somebody may report you as... And they'll take you off. They'll take you off the plane. Yeah, oh you may have swine flu. So but you can, I think you can wear the mask and I think you can safely

31:51 Only have one of the two of you and it would be the one by the window wearing the mask And then you would have a scared look on your face All right So do you want me to do anything with this Chick-fil-a clip or can I just jettison that do I have a clear you have Chick-fil-a Chick-fil-a bullcrap I figured that might know I think we jettison. All right, then let me pull out Let me pull it out here Wow talking about your world we have flying squirrels now ladies and gentlemen the this report from ABC News about the Spanish Al Qaeda Operatives and I have two reports one from ABC and one from CNN both with very interesting Conflict will not really conflict. Well, yeah in a way conflicting information, but it seems like

CHAPTER 14 / 50 Discussion

Spanish Al-Qaeda Plot, Motorized Paraglider Terror Claims

Media outlets ABC and CNN report on the arrest of three suspected Al-Qaeda operatives in Spain who were allegedly planning an attack using motorized paragliders. The hosts deconstruct the reporting, mocking the idea that these "innocent-looking pleasure craft" could carry significant explosives. They criticize the media for listing various "creative" bomb delivery systems, such as teddy bears and body cavities, to instill fear in the public.

al-qaeda· spain· paragliders· martha raddatz· cnn· terror plot

32:42 You know, I'm at the point now where I'm almost thinking that CNN shot up those people in Aurora just to get ratings, because they're just making stuff up. And now we have Al-Qaeda on paragliders, which by the way is a misnomer. I think it's called a flying parachute. A paraglider does not include an engine. But just listen to the report and laugh about how afraid we're all supposed to be as good little slaves. Now to that brazen terror plot. Brazenly! They say Al-Qaeda operatives about to fly in, possibly on paragliders, to launch their newest attack. By the way, it's supposed to be a James Bond connotation, I guess. Investigators in Spain have three suspects under arrest. They say they had a stash of explosives and were coming up with a brand new way to attack.

33:28 Here's our senior national security correspondent Martha Raddatz tonight. By the way, Martha has this look on her face like she's like so she's so sorry for all you stupid slaves. I'm so sorry you have to you know you're going to be submitted to this terror. The three suspected al-Qaeda operatives had timers and enough explosives with them to blow up a bus. Even more troubling, at least two of the men had been practicing flying light aircraft, believed to be motorized paragliders like those seen here those innocent looking pleasure craft that the suspects may have intended for far deadlier purposes please listen to the words those innocent innocent looking pleasure craft that may have been used for far deadlier purposes

34:18 Since Al Qaeda has long been obsessed with arming aircraft. substance could you actually put on something like this? You can see underneath the pilot that there's room where they could potentially put explosive. This guy is supposed to be an expert and he's and it's so wrong what he's saying because he said well look this area here right right underneath the seat is where you can put explosives But you know there is a weight limitation, you know, and you got to be a pretty lightweight terrorist, you know, a tiny Al-Qaeda man in order to have a lot of explosives on board. This is just there's, there's with these motorized parachutes there's only so much

35:06 wing weight, I think I call it, that you can actually carry. So this is completely bogative. Or in the past as we've seen a suicide vest where you would carry this explosive on his body. How many kilos would you need to blow up a bus John do you think? How many kilos of explosives? Well it depends on the explosive but if it was dynamite I would say probably I think you'd blow up a bus with about four sticks. Okay, well they could carry that on the on the wing then okay, I'll take it. I mean it's a bus It's just a bus, but why a bus? You know why is it a bus makes associative with the seven seven of reference to them seven seven blow ups no

35:45 Oh, that's possible. But I was thinking it's associated with the bus terrorism that took place in Israel and this is a... Oh, okay, right, right, right. Any Jews, any Jewish persons... Yeah, it's a Jewish attack. There's this contact about a bus, another bus was blown up in Tel Aviv. Right, right, right. Okay, good one, good one. Well, but they're actually going to make it even funnier for us. And perhaps detonate as he flew into a crowd, as he flew into a stadium. I'm flying into the stadium, I'm going to detonate. Can you just imagine? Alawak Bar, Alawak Bar. Here I come! Please. Some place where you could make that terror attack that would create fear. I like that. A terror attack that would create fear.

36:24 So that's a poorly written script. I think you would create some fear with a terror attack if you say you had 1,000 of these things. Yeah, cool. Like a squadron. It's like a Bond movie. You have 1,000 of these bombers coming in to the Olympics. And they'd be firing the missiles at them. To the already creative but lethal bomb delivery systems terrorists have used over the years. OK, here's the list of the already creative Bomb delivery systems terrorists have used over the years get ready everybody cuz you're screwed slaves There was the printer bomb the shoe bomb the underwear bomb but also

37:06 but also used or contemplated explosives hidden in teddy bears, cameras, laptops, prosthetics, including one molded to look like a woman is pregnant. None of this is true, by the way. None of these have ever gone on. There hasn't been one bomb that's gone off. Never. When was there ever a computer laptop? bomb. Well, but she's not done yet. Bombs and body cavity bombs. Woohoo! In your butt! And of course those sports drinks that brought a halt to air travel after a plot was uncovered in 2006. Which is a total lie because they didn't have tickets, there was no plan whatsoever.

37:45 Always coming up with new ways. Martha with us from Washington. Oh, they're so creative. As you know, of course, the Olympics going on right now. These men were believed to be on the move. Any idea who they were targeting? On the move! They really have no idea, David. Officials believe they were headed to France or someplace else in Europe. Good! They don't think there was any threat to the Olympics. But given the explosives and paraglider this is the kind of thing that keeps American officials and others up at night Oh, yeah trying to figure out what the plotters will time to come up with new ways to make us afraid now CNN Has a little more detail on these guys and it turns out they didn't even have explosives There was no explosives check it

CHAPTER 15 / 50 Discussion

Chechen Suspects, Eavesdropping and Lying Police Dogs

Further details on the Spanish terror arrests reveal that the suspects are of Chechen and Turkish origin. The hosts highlight contradictions in the reporting, specifically that no actual explosives were found despite "sniffer dogs" reacting to a room. They mock the police interpretation of a phone call where a woman was told to "clean the apartment" as evidence of removing bomb-making materials.

chechens· sniffer dogs· eavesdropping· explosives· turkey· police raids

38:24 Well, Candy, what we're hearing is that two of this, by the way, is Nick Robertson, the former satellite technician who now is senior correspondent. These men are Al Qaeda operatives who had training in Afghanistan and Pakistani Al Qaeda training camps. One of them. They were both believed to be Chechens. The other believed to be... Chechens? Interesting, isn't it? Chechens, hmm. ...to be of Turkish origin. Turkish origin, okay. The police are saying when they raided this Turkish man's flat, they did find some explosives, but the canine sniffer dogs they took in there with them to detect explosives discovered a tiny hidden compartment, hidden room, and the dogs apparently went quite crazy in there.

39:05 uh... indicating that there were a lot that had been a lot of explosive that that that i don't know that we also understand that only so it may so it is he's talking bullcrap as they found timers they didn't find any explosive but the dogs went crazy you know those lying dogs those lying dogs that pulled me in this mickey over and lied and lies that we had drugs that lying sons of bitches which i can let you say do stuff on q yet lying dogs and it gets better these two of these men that too with the al-qaeda training One was an expert in chemicals and making bombs. They both had bomb-making training. But they'd both been... How do they know that? How do they know that and what does this entail? I don't know. ...training as well using motorized paragliding aircraft and the indications are they might have been able to try... Now listen, listen. ...try and mount an airborne type of attack. Airborne!

39:58 So Nick, I'm not sure I understand. They think there are explosives missing because the dogs picked up a scent in a different room. How do we know they're not the same? They just didn't move the explosives within that apartment. What is that question? Wow, what a convoluted question. I think the teleprompter wasn't scrolling and she couldn't figure out the question. So what she just asked was, how come, isn't it possible that they moved it to another spot in the apartment and the dogs just, I guess, couldn't find it but they could smell it and, well, here it comes. You know that's possible and the police obviously are not going to rule that out. But one of the things here in this case that the police have told us is that they've been tracking these guys for about a month. Two of them had crossed from France into Spain. The Spanish saying they've had help from outside intelligence agencies.

40:51 They've been monitoring them for a month now and this appears to have been an eavesdropping device. Okay, now this is where it gets good. So remember, the dogs went crazy, the lying dogs, and they had an eavesdropping device. Let's find out what they heard. In this apartment, the Turkish man who lived in the apartment is supposed to have or believed to have told his Moroccan wife to clean the apartment. She was picked up on a phone call with one of these audio bugs saying that she had cleaned the apartment, which gives the police the belief that she hadn't cleaned it for dust, that she'd cleaned out explosives there. Hold on.

41:29 Honey, could you clean the apartment? God, it's gotta be a terrorist. Cleaning out, doing that, bombs. See, just clean the apartment. How about that for an idea? And the dogs went particularly crazy in this room, we're told. So the real indication is the dogs have figured out. They found some dust. There was a lot more, it was in that room and the police are worried about it. Right, okay. So, um, let me just play the jingle. Bullshit. Please. You're insulting my intelligence, CNN. Motorized paraglider. If you see a dude in a white sheet with a beard on a motorized parachute, yeah, you might want to worry.

42:09 Screaming aloo Akbar here. I come you know you can walk into these facilities with the with the explosive vest What are you going through all this trouble for you've got to play into people's imagination? You like it's like too boring. I guess just to walk in and blow up the place. It's fantastic I mean the talk about imagination. I mean literally that meeting John there must have been such a funny meeting and And we've all got our Starbucks coffee. We're sitting around. Hey, man, we got to scare the slaves. What can we do now? Hey, you know those innocent looking pleasure craft? Known as I think they're called the paragliders. Yeah. Yeah. Let's put some guys on that. Well, you know, the funny thing is it play my clip this I'll talk about this afterwards, but I got a kick out of this one. This is the clip. London is empty.

CHAPTER 16 / 50 Discussion

London Olympics Attendance, Security and Retail Disaster

The London Olympics have reportedly led to a 30% decline in attendance at major tourist attractions and restaurants as locals and visitors avoid the city. The hosts attribute this to the heavy security presence, including missiles on rooftops and strict street regulations. They reference a Vice documentary detailing how the event has negatively impacted residents of East London.

london olympics· tourism· retail· security· missiles· vice magazine

43:00 British athletes may be picking up gold at the London Olympics, but takings are down at the capital's main tourist attractions. The sporting event is said to be putting off regular visitors. There had been fears that London wouldn't cope with the crowds. We're seeing a 30% at least a 30% decline in attendance at attractions. We're seeing sharp falls in usage of restaurants. We're seeing a big fall in the use of sightseeing companies. You can come in here and you can get individual attention from a beefeater at the moment at the Tower of London. The British Museum is comparatively empty.

43:40 It's not all doom and gloom. This London hotel is nearly full. The manager here says the disappointment is down to too much hype. The projections were very high. The buzz around the Olympics in London was great. There was a lot of warnings also to stay out of the city because of traffic. So it may have scared people off. Maybe people said, you know, we're going to leave London, especially the locals. You know, I've been reading about this. It's an absolute disaster for the retailers. It's like, yeah, it's a total disaster. But not once in a Report did they mention that they scared the public to putting missiles on rooftops and putting soldiers all over the town? Yeah, you know stop and frisk I'm sure is going on and you know if you look in the stadiums and even in some of the bigger events I said I've only seen the thing full once it's always half empty. Yeah. Yeah, it's a total total disaster and and

44:33 I was watching Vice, you know the Vice.com. Vice magazine, yeah. Yeah, they did a pretty good documentary about what they call the dark side of the Olympics in the show notes under video 432.nashownotes.com And what they did, how they screwed all these people in East London all for the elites and they had in effect a curfew for anyone under 16 after 9 o'clock. Anyone more than two people together on the street is illegal. It's like total Gitmo nation. But I do like the idea of getting personal attention from a beefeater.

CHAPTER 17 / 50 Discussion

Obama Radio Address, Michelle Obama in London

President Obama's weekly address focuses on the Olympics as a unifying force for Americans. The hosts criticize his rhetoric and question his mention of Michelle Obama thanking "brave service members" in London, jokingly asking if the U.S. is at war with Great Britain. They mock the President's claim of "jumping off the couch" to watch the games.

barack obama· michelle obama· olympics· queen elizabeth ii· special relationship

45:09 That sounds kind of hot. Hey, baby. Can I show you my beat? Speaking of the Olympics here is our very own Presidente's annual radio address which he broadcasts on YouTube. I did not understand what he was talking about. Hi everybody. Today I want to take a break from the back and forth of campaign season and talk about something that's brought us all together this week. The Summer Olympics. These games remind us that for all our differences, we're Americans first.

45:47 Aren't this aren't the game supposed to remind us that we're all human beings and kumbaya and it's like the whole world It's like we're all just Americans now. What is that? That is that is an outrageous comment. Does it remind the British that we're all Americans, too? Well, there's a little more to this and we could not be prouder. Yeah, we could not be prouder that the whole world is American Shut up slave men and women representing our country in London in both the Olympics and in the Paralympics. I Last weekend, Michelle led the American delegation to London. Now, now, now, she, she, I didn't know this. And reaffirmed the special relationship we share with our strongest ally. Sorry, she reaffirmed the special relationship we have with our strongest ally, which of course is Gitmo Nation East. Great Britain. She met with the Queen and with Prime Minister Cameron's wife, Samantha. She spent some time thanking our brave service members. What were our brave service members doing over there?

46:45 Are we at war with Great Britain now? Do we have soldiers there? It sounds like he's lost his grip here. He's on marbles. Somebody screwed up the prompter. And of course, she took in as many events as she could to cheer on our athletes. I gotta admit, I was a little jealous that she got to go. But like many of you, I caught as many events as I could. Yeah, our president was real busy. Jumping off the couch for a close race for a perfect vault. Jumping off the couch? Really? Now, so of course there's only one event I really love at the Olympics and I'm very very and and this is my Dutch heritage and I've actually made a domain name because we've talked about this before. The sport to watch is women's hockey and John I would like you to go to hockeybabes.curry.com. You're talking about field hockey? Of course, field hockey, yes.

CHAPTER 18 / 50 Discussion

Women's Field Hockey, Dutch Heritage

One host expresses a specific interest in women's field hockey at the Olympics, citing his Dutch heritage. He mentions creating a custom domain to showcase images of the Dutch team. The hosts briefly compare the aesthetic appeal of various Olympic sports, including beach volleyball.

field hockey· netherlands· olympics· sports· domain names

47:44 hockeybabes.curry.com. Okay, hold on a second. And just hot joy. Hockey babes. This is what you're doing with your time on the road. You were just moaning and groaning earlier about you couldn't do this and you couldn't do that, but you got this. Well, it made me feel good. Maybe feel like it's all worthwhile look at that look at the Dutch team who probably will win again They are so good, but they're so smoking hot that one girl looks like a guy give me a break well That's what I mean. They're smoking hot Yeah, no they look good man. Come on. I don't know oh, please They have the grimace on their faces this one looks good. Oh

48:26 This one here, and this against the Chinese is the dumbest sport ever I love it because they're little they're their little skirts. They fly their water splashing all over the place Yeah, I know that's some kind of weird field they use I'm not sure what's going on with that, but I do like me some Some female women's field hockey. That's nice. It's a good. It's a good thing Yeah, good the Brazilian volleyball team up and you get to see something man. No this is this is an unknown This is unknown, man. This is much better. They got people in the stands. It's not completely unknown. It's probably the cheap ticket. So I think we should probably talk about Syria for a moment. Well, you're still on the Olympics. I could do have one clip. Oh, good. So there's a path.

CHAPTER 19 / 50 Discussion

Palestine Olympic Team, IOC Recognition

The Palestinian Olympic team, consisting of five athletes, participated in the London games despite Palestine not being a diplomatically recognized state. A swimmer on the team describes the difficulties of training in an outdoor pool during winter. The hosts discuss the political implications of the International Olympic Committee's invitation and suggest that "Gitmo Nation" should seek similar representation.

palestine· olympics· ioc· swimming· diplomacy· john mccain

49:17 There's a Palestinian they were interviewing on Euronews and she was playing out the old, you know, well, we have to, nobody even knows we exist as Palestinians. She goes on and on. And then she says, you know, it's so tough. She's on the swimming team. She came in last, I think. But she's moaning that the pool's outside and during the winter, you know, it's impossible to work out. Do you mean her training pool in Palestine or or her yes wherever the hell it is? Yeah, and she's moaning and groaning bench the problem is she's really a pretty girl So you know that's too bad poor thing, but anyway play the clip it will get this out of the way Made up of just five athletes the Palestine Olympic team is the largest team Palestine has ever sent to the Summer Olympics

50:06 Only one of them has reached Olympic qualifying standards. The other four have been sent to London under an invitation from the International Olympic Committee, which initially only accepted states that were diplomatically recognized. Palestine first participated in 1996 in Atlanta. Being here in London is such a great honour. I'm really happy to be here because these are my first Olympic Games and I'm super excited. I'd like to let the world know that Palestine exists and that's why I want to show the world that there is something that's called Palestine. Although Sabine Azboun is unlikely to win a medal here, the young swimmer is driven by the thrill of representing Palestine on the international stage.

50:49 The situation is really hard in Palestine and that's why I couldn't practice. I mean, I was in a pool that has 18 meters length for seven years and sometimes in winter I didn't get to practice because the pool is outdoor. Despite training in less than ideal conditions, these athletes remain powerful symbols for many, a statement that Palestine exists and can take part in this global event. You know this mind control works so well that as this clip is playing in the chat room there's a guy saying, yeah John why don't you tell them Palestinians suck and the Jews are great. I mean, that's what these do. That's what these clips do. This is exactly what it is. This is exactly what it is. Yeah, it's to create the Jew haters, get the Jew haters out. So I'm thinking, I'm not thinking along those lines, I'm thinking along the lines of the IOC apparently invited them. They're not a diplomatically recognized country. They're not a country as a matter of fact. And they don't exist according to John McCain.

51:54 There is no Palestine country, but they invite them anyway. I think we should make a movement to get Gitmo Nation represented. We should just make up our own country, Gitmo Nation. Yeah, we have a flag. We probably got a couple of athletes that can do something. Yeah, like shooting. I'm sure we got some target shooters. Sure we could do pretty well in that shooting match they're always a part of, and bow and arrows. Archery nice. I love the article by the way about the the Wi-Fi police at the Olympics I'm sure you caught this somewhere. No ah so British Telecom is the official Olympics Wi-Fi partner and they're running like 1,500 paid hotspots at all the events and if you are running a MiFi device and

CHAPTER 20 / 50 Discussion

Kofi Annan Resignation, Syria Conflict Deadlock

Kofi Annan resigned as the UN-Arab League joint special envoy for Syria, citing a lack of international unity and continued finger-pointing within the Security Council. The hosts review the failure of the peace plan and the ongoing diplomatic isolation of Russia and China. They characterize the situation as a scripted deadlock intended to justify further intervention.

kofi annan· syria· united nations· bashar al-assad· russia· china

52:49 then they will track you down. And they've got these guys... Hey buddy! Hey, what are you guys, is that a Mac? They've got these guys walking around with like these antennas, directional antennas, tracking down MIFIs. It's crazy. You know, I thought the logo business was nuts. Well, the British are into that. They've always been that way though with their TV sets because they have those trucks that drive around looking for illegal, unlicensed antennas. Oh boy, oh boy. It's just a blueprint. All you have to do is just look at Gitmo Nation East to know what's coming everywhere. Yeah, and the public there is putting up with it. So, a lot of theater around Syria. So of course, we need to take over Syria. We need to break it up. We need to break it into little itty-bitty pieces. And Kofi Annan compromised lying sack

53:49 Just go look at the food for oil scandal that he was a part of look into his son. I have the clip of him Jumping ship. Okay. Well, I'll I have a clip to let me see what your your will play your clip. It's shorter. Let's see Oh nice when the Syrian people desperately need action there continues to be Finger-pointing and name-calling in the Security Council with our serious purposeful and united international pressure including from the powers of the region. It is impossible for me or anyone to compel the Syrian government in the first place and also the opposition to take the steps necessary to begin a political process. I have therefore informed the Secretary General of the UN and the Secretary General of the Arab League today

54:46 that I do not intend to continue my mission when my mandate expires at the end of August. Right, so this is very interesting for a number of reasons. I want to play my clip which has some context around it from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, CBC. And of course it's nice alliteration when you can just say, Kofi quits! Anne-Marie Kofi Annan came to the Syria conflict after perhaps too much blood had been spilled for a peaceful settlement, yet not enough to convince the big foreign powers to intervene. The man who spearheaded the United Nations peace efforts held a lot of meetings, but not the Syrian government, nor its opponents, nor the world's big powers could agree on much. As an envoy, I can't want peace more than the protagonist.

55:40 more than the Security Council or the international community for that matter. So, Anand resigned. Russia and China have consistently vetoed resolutions calling on Bashar al-Assad to step down, arguing it would embolden the rebels and make the fighting worse, though that seems to be happening anyway. Opposition forces are turning captured heavy tanks back in the regime. And while the US has said it will not supply opponents with weapons, the Obama administration confirmed today that non-lethal aid is fair game. Now of course they got to bring in a shill and you will notice immediately that he's a shill just by the words he uses. Such as communications and intelligence which this Syria expert

56:23 suggest shows Syria expert and we don't have to say who these guys are anymore just easy Syria expert and he's on Skype the United States is anticipating a long even bloodier fight the administration at least covertly working with the Turks the Saudis and others will seek to refine the capacity of the free senior Syrian army but let's be clear about something This could take a very long time. Yeah, lovely. Could take a very long time. The long time meme is really in play. Yeah. So this of course triggers a General Assembly vote which is all theater and I will explain to you why as I've read the actual UN resolution that they passed.

CHAPTER 21 / 50 Discussion

UN General Assembly Resolution, Syria Humanitarian Access

The UN General Assembly passed a symbolic resolution condemning the violence in Syria and the inaction of the Security Council. The resolution expresses concern over the potential use of chemical weapons and demands humanitarian access to affected populations. The hosts argue that the resolution is "total bullcrap" and merely buys time before the next phase of the crisis.

ban ki-moon· syria· un resolution· chemical weapons· humanitarian aid· aleppo

57:07 The Syrian regime continues to unleash all-out assaults against its people. Heavy shelling was reported today in Aleppo, Homs and Damascus. A world away in New York, a vote in the United Nations General Assembly has pushed Russia and China deeper into diplomatic isolation. And that's left everyone wondering what's next. Our Middle East correspondent Sasha Petrasek is following today's developments. Sasha. Anne-Marie, as the Syrian conflict hit the General Assembly, the outrage was clear. Not just at Damascus for its brutal actions, but at the UN itself for its inaction. The frustration came right from the top. The conflict in Syria is a test of everything this organization stands for. Wow! Did you hear that?

57:58 That's bullcrap. That's funky moon by the way. Yeah, he's another one. Do not want today's United Nations to fail that test. Ah, okay. Well now we understand we don't want to fail the test. Let me get this straight. So you have a big giant voting body and they vote against something based on the rules of the body. And this is against everything we've ever stood for. I thought the democratic process within the organization is what you stand for in and of itself. Well, it's very interesting to hear the amount of countries that voted against this resolution, but the resolution itself has some details that are

58:41 Just interesting at least. Especially not, he said, in the face of brutality and possible war crimes. War crimes! Today's debate was dismissed by Syria as nothing more than hysterical theatre. Eleven other countries voted against the symbolic resolution, including Russia and China, which in the past have both blocked any real attempt to pressure Syria through the Security Council. Behind the facade of humanitarianism, this is just support for the armed opposition, says Russia's ambassador. In the end, the vote condemned the Security Council's deadlock and overwhelmingly denounced the Syrian regime. So I, of course, go and find the resolution that they passed.

59:27 This thing, it says nothing. It's total bull crap. Expressing grave concern at the escalation of violence in the Syrian Arab Republic. In particular, the continued widespread systematic gross violation of human rights, continued use of heavy weapons. expressing grave concern at the threat by the Syrian authorities to use chemical or biological weapons. What is this? Copied CNN? Taking note of the report of the Independent International Commission on the Inquiry on the Syrian Arab Republic, which notes that the human rights situation in the Syrian Arab Republic is deteriorated significantly. This is the report that we read where they had one person, one person saying, yeah, I think I heard something.

1:00:12 expressing concern at the vulnerable situation of women in this context being subjected to discrimination, sexual and physical abuse, violation of their privacy, arbitrary arrest and detention and raids. Wait, I thought they were talking about America. Sorry. Recalling all members of the United Nations shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity. So that's what the body stands for. But now here at the bottom This resolution demands that all parties immediately and visibly implement Security Council Resolutions 2042 and 2043, which is an exact copy of what I just read. So it's like, and they've already been passed. So it's implement these resolutions. Now the only thing interesting about those resolutions is at the very end it says, if all else fails, you can pretty much do anything you want to get this done.

1:01:06 And it's all about the the Anand plan Furthermore, point 12 calls upon Syrian authorities to immediately and fully implement the agreed humanitarian response plan, including by granting immediate, safe, full, and unimpeded access of humanitarian personnel to all populations in need of assistance, in particular to civilian populations in need of evacuation, and an unimpeded access for affected civilians to humanitarian assistance, including air lifting. So this is kind of opening up the skies, if you will. And then at the very end, and this goes back to your clip about him quitting at the end of August, all requests the Secretary General to report on the implementation of the present resolution within 15 days. So essentially, they've just bought 15 days time until the next crisis will come about. But the guy who loves this, for my punchline, is John McCain. Oh my gosh.

CHAPTER 22 / 50 Discussion

John McCain, Syria Intervention and Cybersecurity Bill

Senator John McCain calls for increased U.S. involvement in Syria, including providing weapons and establishing a "safe area." The hosts label McCain a spokesperson for the military-industrial complex. They also note the failure of a cybersecurity bill in the Senate, which McCain opposed because he wanted the military, rather than the DHS, to oversee the program.

john mccain· syria· military-industrial complex· cybersecurity· department of homeland security

1:02:04 You know, I'll douchebag him up front. Douchebag! Senator McCain, what's your reaction to news that Kofi Annan is stepping down? Well, I hope that what we knew would fail. Because we wrote it in the script that way. And would be... a motivation for the United States to be more involved. It's a motivation, John, for the United States to be more involved in stopping this massacre. The administration has been relying on sort of two flimsy reasons. One was that the Russians would

1:02:43 convinced Bashar Assad to leave and the other of course was the Kofi Annan mission both of which we knew were doomed to failure. We knew they were doomed to failure because it was scripted that way. We did, we knew that. He knew that. Who knew that? John McCain knew that. He and his we. We. We knew that. This will motivate the administration to become more involved, provide weapons, a safe area and assistance to stop the massacre. And there's something... Massacre. Yeah, there's something about this safe area that I haven't been able to figure out yet. There's something about a safe area. It's gotta have a pipeline in it. So... I don't know about that. But John McCain is so obviously a spokesperson for the military-industrial complex, it's just not even funny anymore. Yeah, yeah I know. It's weird. I never expected just because he lost that, you know, he

1:03:41 I mean, he's essentially, I don't know what he expects to accomplish. He's not doing much for his reputation. The cyber bill also failed to pass the Senate. the cyber security bill and the reason that I'm reading everywhere is because there were actually multiple versions of the bill and John McCain wants his version passed and the main difference between the two bills is the one that was before the Senate would have the Department of Homeland Security being in charge and of course John McCain, his version wants the military to be in charge. So I think that's what's going on here and McCain, he's just always trying to sell the military.

CHAPTER 23 / 50 Discussion

Media Language, Atrocities and Execution Videos

The hosts analyze the loaded language used by media outlets like the BBC and Charlie Rose when reporting on Syria, specifically the use of terms like "atrocities" and "massacre." They discuss the emergence of unverified YouTube videos purportedly showing executions of Assad supporters. The segment suggests that both sides of the conflict are using digital media for propaganda purposes.

charlie rose· mark lyal grant· atrocities· massacre· propaganda· youtube

1:04:22 I don't know. It's something to watch. Charlie Rose, after Anon quit, did a piece on it with some guy. And if you want to hear some interesting... There's an interesting loaded term in here. You had a bunch of those clips and they just will never let up on some of these... Instead of just reporting it, They have to use these adjectives that are just ridiculous. Mark Lyle Grant is here. He is the UK ambassador to the United Nations. Today, Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon announced the resignation of Kofi Annan from his post as joint special envoy for Syria. And a decision comes as the situation on the ground escalates rapidly. President Bashar al-Assad is rallying his troops with attacks on the city of Aleppo. New atrocities are being reported in the suburbs of Damascus. Tomorrow, the United Nations votes again on Syria.

1:05:12 Atrocities? New atrocities. Oh, I'd missed that. So we don't even have... so the way the wordage is, it's not just atrocities, it's new atrocities, which indicates there's old atrocities, which means there must be just an ongoing atrocity. It's all atrocities. Now, if they use the word, the more objective word of killings or battles or fighting... No, it's massacre. This is what it is. Massacre. But so so these all the media outlets are using massacre. They're using atrocities in it massacre. It's unbelievable Yeah, and and there's there's this new video which I don't even have a clip of it And it's showing supporters of Assad being executed at gunpoint, but you don't actually see it and

1:05:58 And they even warn you, oh this footage may disturb you. Yeah, what we talked about on the last show, to an extreme. That's what we were talking about. Yeah, but you just don't see it. You're not seeing any of it. Well, they claim they took the part out where there's, you know, and it's like the rest of these videos. It's all, it's who knows. I mean, obviously the other side got a clue. Yeah. I mean if everybody's doing this it seems to me that somebody's having a meeting somewhere going, you know, it's amazing what you can do with the cell phone nowadays and YouTube. I'm surprised that the Occupy movement hasn't done more of this. And can we just establish for once and for all that these hacker conferences

CHAPTER 24 / 50 Discussion

Hacker Conferences, Defcon and Black Hat Skepticism

The hosts dismiss major hacker conferences like Defcon and Black Hat as "bullcrap" and marketing events for the NSA. They argue that real hackers do not attend public conferences or talk to the tech press. One host challenges attendees to hack his personal accounts while calling them "weenies" and "shills."

defcon· black hat· nsa· hacking· cybersecurity· tech press

1:06:45 like Defcon and Black Hat that they are bullcrap and that these people who run them are... Adam at curry.com Go ahead, I mean it's not hard to hack my stuff but I'm just calling you out as little weenie boys and they're shills for the NSA and it's just... Don't go to these conferences. Don't go to these conferences and I hear the the the tech press just like oh, it's so cool I'm at Defcon the blur Real hackers don't talk about it the real guys do not go around attending conferences It's just weenies yes Adam at curry.com go ahead hack all my stuff hack all you want leave the show alone people

1:07:34 Yeah, leave the show alone, please. It's just it's like oh It's just if I have to say I just I went to Defcon once that's my point. I liked it It was a fun show yeah, but that's just a show. It's not real dudes. There's a lot of interesting characters there Yeah, just all there to get laid. I guess you haven't been to one of these No, no, I would not Let me see, we've... I got it. Here's a new... this story cracked me up. Tell me what you... so there's an area of Iraq. Iraq is considered like the, you know, the foundational... Iraq, sorry. Iraq is considered the foundational country for modern civilization. Yes, the Sumerian tablets and this is where civilization is found.

CHAPTER 25 / 50 Discussion

Babylon Pipeline, Iraqi Cultural Heritage Row

A diplomatic row has erupted between the Iraqi government and UNESCO over an oil pipeline being constructed through the ancient city of Babylon. Archaeologists warn that the project is damaging cultural heritage sites and jeopardizing World Heritage status. The hosts mock the lack of regard for ancient Sumerian artifacts in the pursuit of oil infrastructure.

babylon· iraq· unesco· oil pipeline· archaeology· sumerian tablets

1:08:28 artifacts in Babylon are still intact and there's you know it's kind of a tourist place and it's a beautiful area that people should visit if they get a chance to go there and so it turns out that there's a slight interesting problem going on as they as they start to rip the place apart The fate of the ancient city of Babylon is causing a diplomatic row between the Iraqi government and UNESCO, the arm of the UN responsible for preserving cultural heritage. Archaeologists say parts of the grounds have been torn up to accommodate an oil pipeline. The works are holding up the granting of World Heritage status by UNESCO. The pipeline will jeopardize the archaeological city of Babylon.

1:09:12 We hope that the problem can be tackled by changing the course of the pipeline so it runs outside of the city rather than inside. I love that! I've been there when I went to Iraq in 2003. Oh, you did? I went to that area, yeah. Well, they're running a pipeline right down the gut. Hey, can we go around this famous place? No! Just run it down the gut, nobody gives a crap. Hey, what's this clay stuff? Just stomp it out of the way. What are these tablets? Knock them over, John. Hey, bring in the back hall. Oh God. We are such barbarians. We are horrible. Wow. Oh my goodness. That's pretty funny.

CHAPTER 26 / 50 Discussion

Greece Formula One, Sarkozy Investigation

Despite severe economic turmoil, the Greek government is reportedly working to bring a Formula One race to the country. Meanwhile, in France, former President Nicolas Sarkozy is under investigation for campaign finance irregularities. The hosts highlight the disconnect between the priorities of the political elite and the struggles of the general public.

greece· formula one· bernie ecclestone· nicolas sarkozy· france· corruption

1:09:55 Another pipeline right through the Sumerian tablets Perfect. Just gut it. All right down to get why should we that's gonna cost an extra hundred grand to go around screw it Back her up Pete. Oh, wow That's awesome Move over to Euro land so we have a new government in Gitmo nation souvlaki in Greece and we have the you know, so we got new ministers in there and the alternate minister of education religious affairs culture sports and Cost his name is cost us to Savarez hmm maybe he's a member of the group Tavares guess what he is now working very hard on to It's a critical point for his country. What do you think they're working on?

1:10:52 Well, they should be working on finance reform and probably stimulus to get the economy going again, job creation, that sort of thing. Yes, yes, yes. No, he's working on getting the Formula One to Greece. Not the World Cup? No, Formula One. How awesome is that? And Bernie Eccleston is going to visit, going to make it all happen. I mean, really? Do the elites have to lay it on that thick for us? Yeah. And meanwhile in Gitmo Nation, Stinky Cheese, well I guess Longbread and Stinky Cheese in France, as... what's his face? Sarkozy has fled the country. Where'd he go? He fled the country... I think he might be in Canada. Because of course he's being investigated for campaign scammage.

CHAPTER 27 / 50 Discussion

Carla Bruni Statue, Elite Symbolism

A statue of Carla Bruni, wife of Nicolas Sarkozy, has been erected in France depicting her as a working-class woman. The hosts mock the sculpture, noting the irony of a wealthy elite being used to symbolize labor. They also briefly mention Asma al-assad and the public image of political wives in international media.

carla bruni· nicolas sarkozy· france· sculpture· mick jagger· asma al-assad

1:11:51 with uh... did he was in the last time i look at the i think he's i'm where he is now that was months ago delays still there he still but the way it just about time about fleeing the country you know i've been to report that assad's gorgeous wife she's she's split she's in the russian the hottie i have of course you know that there's dust gathering in the pool no one to hang out there uh... sandy was her cozy's wife carla bruni They have, uh, in France, erected a statue of her. Oh, why? Dressed up as a worker to symbolize the Italian women who came to France looking for work.

1:12:34 What? Yeah, how awesome is that? They found some old sculpture from the Stalin administration? What would you have this? Is she holding her arm out with a big hammer in it? I don't know. That actually would be good. Let's see if we can find a picture of this sculpture. Let me see Carla I know they got a socialist guy running the place, but this is ridiculous, but can you believe she she screwed Mick Jagger? That's the only thing she's famous for as far as I'm concerned. Well. Maybe she should have a condom holding her a garment Box of condoms big rubber let's see I'm looking at images. Yeah there you go. There's a picture of it and

1:13:19 She's got like a sack over her shoulder. Yeah, she's carrying a loaf of... she's carrying a sack. A 20 pound sack of wheat. The heaviest thing she's ever carried. This is the worst statue ever. Her diamond earrings were the heaviest thing she's ever carried. It doesn't even look like her. Dressed up as a worker. I mean, the elites are just really rubbing it in your face with this. Look I can carry a sack of crap. She's got a dynamite waistline though in the statue. She's got like a 20 inch waist. It's not even maybe 15. I think it's fine if you give me a small waist. Make my butt look smaller. Oh thank you elites. Thank you elites of the world. You just made my day. Oh there's a picture of her in a bikini. Wait a minute hold on a second let me find that one. We need a picture of Assad's wife. What's her name?

1:14:17 I'm on I think it's an ama or something because we got the picture of Assad's wife and Angelina Jolie kissing We should we should have the three of them Carla Brunette Julie really looks good in a bikini this Bruni woman is that Funny how come my Google images doesn't show her in a bikini and it profiled use gay It's by curious only show him the bronze statue don't show him anything. Oh, I see it now at the bottom. Yeah, I Yeah. Here's a better one if you go further. Thanks. Oh, I see. The white one? The white bikini? Yeah. Yeah. Damn! I gotta get me one of these president jobs. I mean, so Miss Mickey can walk around with a white bikini. And make a statue of her carrying some wheat.

CHAPTER 28 / 50 Discussion

Financial Crimes, Iceland Banker Indictments

The hosts discuss the historical punishment for financial crimes and the current trend of public anger toward bankers. They highlight Iceland as a unique case where the government has actually indicted prime ministers and jailed bankers following the 2008 financial collapse. Iceland's economy is reportedly growing again as a result of these draconian measures.

iceland· bankers· financial crisis· capital punishment· pat robertson· gdp

1:15:07 This wheat statue is the... it's the worst. It's so wrong. It's the worst. If I was the French, I'd pull that thing down. I'd get a 4x4, throw a chain around. First chop the neck off, the head off. Saw that off. One fell swoop. Yeah. Here, Bruni. Chop the head off. And then? And then what? And then pull it down and then drag it through the streets of Paris. You know, the interesting meme that's been cropping up, Max Keiser, I think probably started a while ago, but people are now talking about how financial crimes going back 3,700 years in world history have often been punishable by death in old England

1:16:01 counterfeiting money, you would get tarred and burned at the stake. And I'm hearing this over and over and I'm seeing people start talking about arresting bankers and and... They've been wanting to arrest bankers for a while. Should there be, you know, I think the meme is should there be capital punishment for capital crimes which I kind of like. And then... So cute. And who's on the 700 Club? Is that Pat Robertson? Yeah. Guess what country is getting itself out of a financial hole by some rather draconian measures? Well, Greece? No. Not even close. Iceland. Iceland. They are putting people in jail. They are putting prime ministers being indicted. They're going after bankers. The

1:16:49 the people say that, yeah, those banks are ripping us off. We don't like what they did. They brought our country to ruin and now Iceland suddenly is turning around, their GDP is growing. I think Pat Robertson is trying to start a little crap there. He's a troublemaker, that old guy. I like that. I think this is good. We really should be decapitating bankers. You know, we should be doing that. That would have stopped you a lot of these practices. It should. You know, we've got to get on this stick. I'm liking that. I'm liking this whole idea of going after bankers. It's pretty annoying, these guys have been doing to us.

CHAPTER 29 / 50 Discussion

Train Enthusiasts, Foamer Subculture

A viral video of a "foamer"—an enthusiastic train hobbyist—reacting emotionally to vintage engines is discussed. The hosts explain the term "foamer" as a derogatory label adopted by the rail enthusiast community. They play the clip, which features the man shouting in excitement over specific locomotive models.

trains· foamers· railway· hobbyists· viral video

1:17:30 Let's see what else we got I got a yeah the clip of the well I heard you think you got clip of the train nut This is a long clip with a punchline, so don't don't step on it at the end Okay, but this is a long clip of a guy. This has been around the net and of a so-called foamer, that means a railway nut, that gets to see a couple of vintage engines go through his town and he films them and he goes nuts about it. Why is it called a foamer? It's from a, it's apparently a term that was used as a derogatory term meaning of something. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's an acronym for an, for an idiot who likes trains and is a, is a, is a moron, but they, they've decided to take the term and make it a good term. So they call themselves foamers. Now there's some question as to whether this is legit, but it's so funny.

1:18:24 that I every time I watch you watch the clip which is available in the Dvorak.org blog site and elsewhere and a lot most people have seen it that have keep up with this but the guy goes so nuts over these trains that it's just quite funny. Okay, I've been waiting for this moment for months and it's finally here. I'm finally gonna get a heritage unit on camera. Yeah! Alright, look at that, a 1953 EA. Woohoo! Oh yeah, listen to that bell. Yeah, listen to that bell. Oh, take a look at that. Oh my god! Woo! Listen to that horn! Oh my god! Oh, she's beautiful! She is beautiful, yeah! Alright! Oh no, it's a BL-22!

1:19:26 Oh, the SNC-52! Oh my God! Oh, we're gonna watch this. Oh, this is special. This is special. Oh, that horn gives me the chills. And the chills have absolutely nothing to do with how cold it is here. But that doesn't stop a foamer, especially when it comes to heritage equipment. Oh, this is fantastic. Wow, really John?

1:20:27 This is like the oldest clip in the universe. It's not that old and that ladies and gentlemen is why we are What a jip What a jip. You edited that on the end and that's your big payoff Wow Wow, is this what you guys in the Dvorak family meeting discussed like I got a great idea. Oh No, we don't. No, no, no. No input comes from the family regarding what my clips are about. Let's get this clip that everyone has seen a million times. You've seen this clip? Yes, it's been around forever. Okay. We've never played it on the show. No, no, for good reason.

CHAPTER 30 / 50 Discussion

Drone Strikes, Uzbekistan and Yemen Operations

U.S. drone strikes have reportedly killed a militant leader in Uzbekistan and five individuals in Yemen. The hosts track these events via a "kill list" website, noting the continued use of drones during the Olympic season. They question the lack of transparency regarding the locations and identities of those killed in these operations.

drones· uzbekistan· yemen· barack obama· isi· pakistan

1:21:13 uh... okay let me get into some drone nation for you then we have updated kill list dot curry dot com as uh... of course we had our terror tuesday and we have had a u s drones strike strike confirmed killin bush back militant leader uh... who has been doing is back now was back yes Uzbekistan it was in Uzbekistan. Yes, we have drones in Uzbekistan. We got drones everywhere We do we got bitches and Yemen drone strike has killed five so we're up to six this week so far What is this drone kill what is this called again kill list curry calm illest yes

1:21:53 Excellent excellent job, so I guess in between Jumping off the couch and cheering for a good good vault by the US team President Obama had some time to kill some people with with a drone and of course he's well We do know that he does has to have the list and he has to okay everyone yeah, and these are suspected suspected terrorists. Yemen drone strike kills five US drone kills strike kills Uzbek militant leader. Yeah so we had we had the head of the ISI come to Washington to meet with the CIA chief

1:22:35 We do we know hold on a second this is kind of interesting to me where was this guy killed I don't see it in the article in Pakistan I think no no no this is a Dateline Islamabad, that's the guy filing the report. They were they were they're not gonna be dropping a drone bomb right in the middle of the capital no From the the guy was from the Islamic movement of Uzbekistan and That was a major blow to the Islamic movement who but Uzbekistan I'm sure it was but where was he killed? I don't know. I may not say I'm looking it doesn't say well look we don't even know if this is actually happening It's true. It could be bull crap could be well, and this is why I bring up the fact that the head of the Pakistani ISI their security services joined

1:23:26 General or I'm sorry ex-general, but now CIA chief David Petraeus to talk about dronage Well, at least that's what the the ISI chief he's like, you know Hey, could you please like ease back on killing our people? This is getting very annoying It's like, you know and my people here don't like it And so of course the compromise news service CBS and wait a minute. Why are we bragging about it? Let me just read this just from the New York Times. That's what makes me wonder. I As a result, the members of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan have frequently been attacked, frequently, with an F, attacked by the CIA drone strikes, one of which also killed the group's previous leader. It's like always killing the second in command of Al-Qaeda. The previous leader, a charismatic preacher named Tahir Yuldashev. And what does it mean if he's charismatic? What does that even mean?

1:24:22 I don't know why they would put that in there. Yeah, no, because I guess he Why do we even care if he's a preacher? Yeah, and then preacher really is all a Christian term. Anyway, the Muslim Imams are never called preachers ever that I know of maybe somebody can correct me on that So he's very I think is coded. So I'm looking I'm looking at Uzbekistan is next to Tajikistan and it's above Turkmenistan and I really don't know. I mean, I'm sure there's a pipeline tie-in. I think we already made that clear on our pipelines. Yeah, yeah, but we don't hear a lot about Uzbekistan. And we should hear more because it's a cool name. Uzbekistan. Yeah, it is. And Uzbek sounds great. Anyway, so we get the Chief Lieutenant General Zahir-ul-Islam, unfortunate name,

CHAPTER 31 / 50 Discussion

ISI Chief Visit, CBS Haqqani Network Propaganda

The head of Pakistan's ISI met with CIA Director David Petraeus to discuss the cessation of drone strikes. However, CBS News aired a report focusing on the Haqqani Network's "safe havens" in Pakistan, using high-quality video of a militant attack on a U.S. base. The hosts characterize the CBS report as blatant propaganda designed to justify continued drone warfare.

isi· david petraeus· haqqani network· cbs news· pakistan· propaganda

1:25:22 The ISI chief and he meets up with David Petraeus and we all know the messages that he is reportedly displeased with the dronage that we're causing in Well, we say Pakistan, but it's really was iristan where the TAPI pipeline is coming through and And so we have to turn that around in the compromise media. CBS does a great job by not even making it about the drones, just coming up with a complete, unbelievable, Haqqani propaganda PR to actually go and drone more Pakistanis. There was a lot at stake for US troops when the director of the CIA, David Petraeus, met today with his counterpart from Pakistan.

1:26:07 The United States wants Pakistan to crack down on terrorists who use safe havens in Pakistan to attack Americans in Afghanistan. Now remember, this was not what it was about. The guy came to Washington on his knees saying, please stop the droning. And now it's already been turned around at the top of this report to say, you've got to protect our troops. Tonight we have a rare look at a terrorist safe haven in action. Ooh, John, a terrorist safe haven in action. Now we've updated our video of the guys training on monkey bars to Rambo. David Martin has obtained video of a terror group launching a strike two months ago against a US base.

1:26:51 If you ever wondered what goes on in those safe havens in Pakistan, why in fact just last night I was lying awake thinking what do you think's going on in those safe havens? Anyway look at this look at this terrorists built a scale model of an American base just across the border in Afghanistan. This is they got like clay there's a table with clay in a tent with little buildings on it. And used it along with a satellite photo taken off the internet to to plan a spectacular attack. They may look like Rambo wannabes. And so now there's guys with two AK-47s just shooting it like at a 45 degree angle into the air.

1:27:31 I kid you not, with camos on. They're not fighting, they're just like shooting one in each arm. Complete Rambo. But this was a well-planned operation. Down to the American and Afghan army uniforms they wore. Oh, so they even wear our uniforms. Interesting. The attack was led by this man, the driver of a truck loaded with an estimated 2,000 pounds of homemade explosives. His bomb was covered only by a tarp. So that we can't see that it's not actually a bomb. Yet he apparently had no difficulty driving across the border and right up to forward operating base Salerno. So he's literally, the guy is waving out the window, smiling to the camera as he's driving off with like a mattress under a tarp. And this video is outstanding quality. It's really well edited.

1:28:22 The driver detonated the bomb, setting off a monstrous fireball followed by a blast wave which rippled across the base. All recorded for maximum propaganda value. To be propagandized against the American people. Next, a propaganda value for CBS. A van carrying a 10-man suicide squad pulled up. So, now we're led to believe there's 10 guys piling into a Volkswagen bus all in camos with weapons and they're calling that a suicide squad. Their plan was to charge through a hole in the wall blown out by the truck bomb. But the attack stalled because, a US official said, the bomb failed to breach a second barrier. The video doesn't show it, but all ten were gunned down. Oh, how come the video doesn't show it? How come the video doesn't show it? How come it doesn't show it? Oh, oh, fiddlesticks. Photos of the aftermath show the base mess hall collapsed by the blast wave. Two Americans were killed and 25 wounded seriously enough to require evacuation.

1:29:24 It was far from the deadliest attack on American forces, but the size of that fireball and the resulting blast wave are dramatic proof of the threat posed by the safe havens in Pakistan. The attack was the work of a group called the Haqqani Network, which according to U.S. officials not only has safe havens in Pakistan, but is actually supported by Pakistani intelligence. I just found this to be so amazing how CBS News, the Tiffany Network, Morrow is turning in his grave. As if not one single mention of why the ISI chief is here. He wants to stop the killing. And instead they turn it around into this. Beautiful.

CHAPTER 32 / 50 Discussion

ABC News, Mormon Polygamy and Romney Hit Piece

ABC News aired a segment on Mormon polygamists in Utah, which the hosts interpret as a subtle "hit piece" against presidential candidate Mitt Romney. They point out the use of the word "felon" in the report, linking it to previous Democratic attacks on Romney's business record at Bain Capital. The segment is described as using associative reasoning to cast a negative light on Romney's faith.

mitt romney· abc news· mormonism· polygamy· utah· bain capital

1:30:14 I told you, I've always been convinced that CBS is just as bad as ABC. I mean NBC to me is just an arm of General Electric. As long as they sell jet engines, they don't care. I don't think they're that into it. But CBS and ABC are definitely... I have a, you know, when we go later in the show, I have an ABC clip which is targeting Romney. Why don't we do that now and then we'll go into break. All right, well here's this is again a propaganda clip I see and I was looking at watching this and this was on ABC on their 2020 or one of these shows and it was a and it was obviously designed to do associative reasoning or so as an associated methodology to get people to to watch this about something that's not associated with any I mean it just seems like an objective report but it's actually to get you to think about Romney you know that another

1:31:05 senior ABC producer married one of Obama's advisors. Another one? Yeah, yeah. And that of course is so later when we find out about how corrupt this was they can't testify against each other. Oh yeah. Husbands and wives can't testify. So anyway, so the idea is that ABC is going to start a campaign to go after Romney in a very peculiar way. It's not as if, I mean it's just all associative because as you start watching this you start thinking Romney because it's about Mormon polygamy. The golden grasslands of suburban Salt Lake County, Utah are a land of secrets.

1:31:52 Entire families living in the shadows to protect husbands and fathers from going to prison for polygamy. But today there is one secret less. Very good. Because Joe Darger is ready for his close-up. This is an act of civil disobedience for sure. By the way, this is total porn music. Yeah, this is total not 70s. This is like 90s porn music kind of the yeah, you know the doom doom doodle-doodle-doo make you think about sex Yeah, but listen to the listen to the adjectives and listen to the associative material And there's one little bomb in here that's helped talk about at the end Joe is a polygamist. He has three wives Alina Vicki and

1:32:42 and Val and 24 children. But they're not like the isolated and old-fashioned disciples of Warren Jeffs who shun the outside world and whose wives are covered from neck to ankle. Polygamists whose leader counted girls as young as 12 among his 87 wives and who's now in a Texas prison for life We are law-abiding in every other way. I'm in a felonious relationship. That's a decision we made felonious What's felonious? He is a felon to be a bigamist even in the state of Utah, but that is the bomb right there. Because if you recall about two or three, maybe two or three weeks ago, maybe a month ago, there was this thing where they accused Bromley of being a felon because he reported his SEC status inaccurately 20 years ago when he was with Bain. And then the Republicans got all bent out of shape. You can't call him a felon.

1:33:44 and they made a big deal about it because the Obama campaign said he was a felon and he says he's not a felon. It made a big deal. So now we have to revisit the felon concept with this report. We're talking about polygamy. The guy drops the felon bomb. The first thing anybody does, oh yeah, those Mormons are weird. And I remember hearing somebody else think to themselves, I remember hearing about apparently, uh, Romney's great-granddad was a huge polygamist. This is a hit piece against Romney. It's really a chicken shit piece and it's amazing. It went on forever. That's interesting. I'm in a fallacious relationship. I don't know if that's the same thing. Not yet. No. We're going to go to Salt Lake City. It might be eventually. So where was this? Because we're going to Salt Lake City. By the way, it is in Georgia.

1:34:34 Oh, it's not even in Salt Lake? Not even in Utah? No, no. In Georgia, it's against the law to, uh, for, uh, it's considered sodomy to have sex. But is it legal in Utah? Yeah, I would think. Polygamy is legal in Utah? Oh, no, no. Polygamy is not talking about fellatio, which is what you were talking about. But this secret place in this report, where is that? It's not secret. It's just south of Salt Lake. Hello, she said in the report it was secret. His house is secret. Let me just hear it again cuz I gotta know where to go The golden grasslands of suburban Salt Lake County, Utah are a land of secrets the land of secrets the land of secrets That means there's a bunch of these

CHAPTER 33 / 50 Discussion

Listener Donations, Karma Requests and Small Business Shoutouts

The hosts read a series of letters from donors who contributed various amounts, often requesting "karma" for job interviews or family health issues. They discuss the "No Agenda Shopping" Amazon affiliate program and its low payout rates. Several small businesses, including a dune buggy golf cart company, are mentioned as part of the show's community support.

donations· karma· amazon affiliates· shopping· golf· value for value

1:35:13 The Golden... There's a bunch of... I bet you we could go camp there. They might have the Golden Grasslands RV Park. They might. Ha ha ha! Let's go get out. Ms. Mickey, get ready! I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. On No Agenda, Golden Grasslands! Eight in the morning. So, starting off with some of our supporters. Shea Marshall in Canton, Georgia, talking about Georgia, $111.17. Disregarding Bogota, okay. So, Magic with a vote up for the slide whistle.

1:35:58 I'm karmically obligated to approve the slide whistle as I'm that's why the seven is on there we stopped doing that by the way no more sevens and nines I'm the one who bought a slide whistle for my good buddy and fellow contributor Jonathan Dowdy whose previous donation and comment in turn prompted Adam's purchase of the slide whistle. Oh okay well you're fault. If the whistle loses then I'm to blame if the whistle wins then I'm to thank please give Jonathan some you don't really think that we were going to We use the slide whistle. I don't even use the slide whistle much anymore. I've moved to the harmonica. Adam's on the slide whistle today. Please give Jonathan some well-deserved karma to help him out of his new career with a Mussolini slave girl and two to the head. Oh, okay. The Mussolini, yeah. And please provide my beautiful wife Brianna with a MILF call-out as well, which will hopefully encourage her to listen to the show. Okay, let's see if we can do all this. That's one mother I'd like to have.

1:36:56 You've got karma You didn't have the Italian part in there Oh Mussolini slave girl. Oh, I haven't clipped it yet. Okay, we'll do it later John Leonard in Manhattan, Kansas $100. This is our dune buddy dune buggy golf car. Yes. Yes Sorry dune buggy golf carts calm if any no agenda listeners by a body kit or or a complete turnkey card, I'll share more with the greatest podcast in the universe, DoonBuggyGolfCards.com. That's our buddy from Wichita. Nice! Thank you, John. Dave Goes in New Lenox, Illinois, $100. Nicholas Oman, Thief River Falls, Minnesota, 7777. You guys really do make the greatest podcast in the multiverse.

1:37:52 I think the universe is cutting yourself short. After Thursday's show, I felt like my value for value ratio was getting too low, so this is to top off the value meter. I'm also feeling the need for some more karma since the last batch worked, but seems to be running low, so a fill up on karma would be great. Thanks for the great show. Result is follow-up donation I sent out. Feel free to read both, blah, blah, blah. Okay, $77.70. Here's a top-up. You've got karma. Joe Cool Design in Princeton, Ontario, 72. A little behind in the show due to the golf season, but come up with a great revenue stream. Not a golf pro, but I'm a ravenous degenerate golf addict. Somewhere between 150 to 150 times a year, I donate 72 for some par for the course karma. Blah, blah, blah. I think the Noah Jenner producers who golf should start to donate a score they wish for karma. There you go.

1:38:50 Well, that would be probably in the hundreds for most of these guys. Come back and donate what they actually shot. I think most golfers, especially avid ones, are usually filled with such a dense fog of self-loathing after a bad round that they would donate just to punish themselves. A golf donation. I like that. Yeah. Alright, so he needs a shot of Karma at... he needs to send it to Sir Kobol and Minuteman Schultz for their support of Joe Cool Design. Yeah, Sir Joe Cool Design, of course. You've got Karma. Ah, here we go. Who's the bell? Here it is. Oh yes, ding ding ding. Karsten Ove Schwartz. Nielsen, I guess.

1:39:37 in some place which I can't see. Denmark. Oh he's in Denmark. Here's a contribution from a dirty old cheap Dane to the Sin Bin. 6969, please look to the origins of the Islamic Brotherhood since it sort of began in 1902. The history of this organization explains some of the stuff happening today and keep up the good work on the best podcast in the universe. More Dutch lessons please. Yes and actually I would recommend you read the compendium written by Breivik because that's actually a great compilation which is what a compendium is of the origins of the Islamic

1:40:13 Slash Muslim Brotherhood, it's in the show notes. You can find it, but you cannot just google it It's it's just a collection of Wikipedia articles really so so This is the 69 if it was for Carsten. Yeah, we would have been out over and and I thought I was looking at some of the donation I thought we had at least two 69 69 s but I could be wrong There may be some missing donations. I have to look into but Anyway, onwards. Jeremy, we'll make it up to people who have wanted to get something. I have to look into these donations. Jeremy Slate, Hamburg, New Jersey, 5150. After donating last and asking for karma, I got a job interview without applying the next day after a phone call.

1:40:59 Got a job the next day in two interviews at the second of which I was hired and now I'll be a social studies teacher the little slaves at a high school once again I asked for my karma or for karma for my mother who's only 53 recovering from a stroke Okay You've got karma make sure you indoctrinate those little human resources Yes, give it to him Benjamin Hoffman in Munich, Michigan 5136 took a year and a half but proceeds from the no agenda shopping.com and they ticked up to $50 People can support the show at no cost to them by using Amazon through this site. Yeah, that's a it's an Amazon affiliate code That's how that's how bad that program is. I'm telling you. This is a typical if you put an affiliate code out there This is what it will take you this was not 18 months to make 50 bucks Yeah, no wonder Jeff Bezos has a crazy laugh

1:41:54 Okay, Amy gamber in or gamber in Littleton, Colorado right up the street from you My husband Brannon is a big fan. We met Adam and Mickey last night at the Colorado meetup in Louisville and Adam, thanks for taking the time to sit and chat with our table. Brandon works for Jepsen. He's the Jepsen guy. And he and Mike were the ones who gave you the No Agenda aviation chart. Somebody else did a chart, an aviation chart, and somehow I've lost track of it. It might be these guys.

1:42:33 It really meant a lot to us hoping to get a little karma for my husband because after working a long week He's coming home to spend the weekend painting our house Wow what a way to do it, huh, honey You know I did get you karma on no agenda, so you really do have to paint the house. It's house painting karma, honey. Yeah, okay Love that. Thanks. I've got karma Karma. Not a sweetheart. That's how you do it. $50 from Sir Adam Kolb in Menasha, Wisconsin and Sir Alan Bean in Oakland down the street here. $50. Thank Mimi. Received his ring. Oh, cool. Thanks, Mimi.

1:43:11 And maybe doesn't listen to the show much as she may listen to the beginning and then she fades like everybody else in the family that is some people is The best stuff's at the end buzzkill jr. Listens Yeah, he says Joshua Parker Las Vegas, Nevada $50 longtime boner first-time donor I figured I was willing to give money to a huge for-profit organization to help protect my Second Amendment rights. I better give money to protect my sanity and the only source of real news. Can I get a de-douching with two to the head? Karma. Yeah, absolutely. You've been de-douched.

1:43:49 You've got karma. Thank you, Joshua. Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina, 50. I'd like to request that someone cedes SD Spivey's No Agenda multiple episode torrents, please. Oh, yeah, you got a... that's a problem with the torrents. I think we're on Bitlove with our torrents and they should work. Bitlove? Bitlove. Keep up the Mitt Treat Williams Romney coverage. Forgot about that. Loves the show, Sir Brian. And finally, Philip Meason in Welshpool Pows. $50 and that'll be we didn't have a lot of donors on this show except for our nights and would appreciate the people going to know agenda show.com no generation calm Dvorak org slash na or channel of work calm and Helping us keep the show going. Yeah, we do have a couple of on-the-spot donations from the meetups Which is always highly appreciated. So again Chad Christian for value for value there for paying for a new pump

CHAPTER 34 / 50 Discussion

General Wesley Clark, Seven Countries Memo

At a listener's request, the hosts play the famous clip of General Wesley Clark describing a 2001 Pentagon memo. The memo outlined a plan to "take out" seven countries in five years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. The hosts use this to provide context for current geopolitical events in the Middle East and Africa.

wesley clark· pentagon· iraq· syria· iran· libya

1:44:51 for Mustang Sally's automatic power steering. Then we have Rick Hainter. uh... no note to read just want to see if you could at some point in the show play the evergreen clip where the countries that are to be taken down are listed i want my wife to hear it can't find it on search.nashownotes.com uh... that's the Wesley Clark clip we're not gonna play the whole thing but I did queue it up to just the seven countries. I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer every problem has to look like a nail so I came back to see him a few weeks later And by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? And he said, oh, it's worse than that. He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper and he said, I just, he said, I just got this down from upstairs, meeting the Secretary of Defense's office today. And he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries

1:45:44 in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran. Kirk and Darcy Beery, they'd like a dude deducing and by the way Rick gave us $50 Kirk and Darcy Beery deducing and some job karma. Oh, sorry about that And then we have John Atama who donated $60 and Adam here we go

1:46:25 Take my glasses off after years of listening. I can no longer consider bringing paying listeners I can no longer consider bringing something as easy as it looks to me. No paying listeners to be my contribution He's a small token of my appreciation. Thanks for the hours of a great infotainment you and John provide God bless John Atama please credit to Bernie so I was interesting so he on the spot and in the regular donations as very kind and We have that's a $60 Evan Montgomery $60 Chuck and Inger Mo $100

1:47:04 and uh... home and my administration is a mess here uh... i don't make a congress in a recent wedding hope this helps for petro yes it does thank you so much as a full tank of gas and uh... in mustang sally then of course the devon austin dorf uh... who gave a six hundred sixty six dollars and six six cents for the beef jerky in mountain dew fund and uh... he will be knighted in a moment kelby coning who calls himself the future john c java devorak He's a farmer. He drove two and a half hours with his lovely girlfriend to be at the meetup. $60. David Cleaver.

1:47:40 gave us four silver quarters Chris Bruckner $100 and Chris or Brokner I might say welcome to cool, Orado Hope you enjoy your stay and best of luck to you on the rest of the hot pockets 2009 tour Encloses something to help you along, but don't forget the karma and while I'll make sure you get some karma right here my friend. You've got karma karma scott w davis from boulder gas money hundred bucks thank you and uh... steve aren't uh... gave us the mile-high donation of fifty two dollars and fifty cents three times a dime and then colorado springs we had to do it all man uh... who gave us fifty five dollars and uh... where's jones notes

1:48:31 You're right, John. It's not as easy as you make it look. Yeah, here it is. This is the way I used to do it before we got to the spreadsheet model. I want to thank you and John for your show, as it's really one of the few places that actually asks questions. Why did trying to get solid facts... When did trying to get solid facts become out of style or was it ever in style? Anyways, could I get a little Italian girl shut up slave to the head ending with little girl excitedly yelling, yay? Okay, let me see what I can do yet. Oh, what is the yay thing for a while? What do we have the yay thing even yeah? Yeah, we got the yay thing hold on a second, so I know how to do this now I've got this set up, so we'll do it like this

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CHAPTER 35 / 50 Discussion

Chris the Viking, Biblical Pillar Sighting

A new "Instant Knight," Chris the Viking, shares a detailed account of a 2005 sighting of a massive silver pillar in orbit. He speculates that the object may be related to the biblical pillar that led the Israelites. He also predicts a significant event occurring on August 8th, exactly seven years after his sighting.

chris the viking· ufo· biblical pillar· orbit· knighthood· august 8

1:50:08 Well, really just one today. It's Bernie Adema who congratulates his son John who turned 30 today. Good seeing you at the meetup. Happy birthday from your buddies here at the No Agenda Show. And then we have two nightings to take care of. We have our Insta night and I think I should just mention what Chris the Viking has said. Back in 2005 on August 5th, August 8th, I saw what I've come to believe was the biblical pillar that led the Jewish peoples from Egypt to the promised land. I am not a Christian or even religious person at any level mind you. I watched a silver or aluminium pillar go by over my city right at noon and it was clear to me because of the path it took and the transparent look of it that it was in orbit. I could see the sunlight glistening on the three seams

1:50:57 as it rotated as a barrel roll and every 15 seconds it would become obscured by three very bright lights that were most likely the sunlight reflecting off some other part of its structure. I couldn't see for sure. These lights lasted around two seconds before they went out and you could see the pillar again. I've seen satellites many times and of course they follow in a much lower arc than this object, telling me it was in a very high orbit. It was really big enough in my sky. It was about four or five times the length of the commercial jets that fly near enough for me to compare. Now to take crazy to the next level. Second half of the show. I spent several years after this sighting trying to figure out what it is I saw. Aliens? Military? Nazis? I rested on the aliens, one for a while, and perhaps that's what they are, lords of other or from other worlds.

1:51:46 haven't gotten that far and don't think it will until it lands and explains itself. The thing that has dogged me since I've seen it included in maybe the same pillar from the Bible is the seven year thing. That's right, August 8th. It's been my prediction since around 2008. Pretty nervous about the time we're entering. So what he's saying is August 8th is when we will have our last show. Which would make this the last show because our next show is August 9th. Right so he decided to become an instant night And I think that's a very smart idea since the world is coming to an end on August 8 mm-hmm Which happens to be my anniversary? Well at least your world's coming to an end hey no So let's give yourself an in the morning for that lame gag. Yes, I did okay. All right grab your sword. Will you there we go all right?

1:52:35 So we would like Chris to step forward along with Devin Ostendorf, please gentlemen Thank you so much as you kneel down to become Knights of the Noah gender roundtable your support of $1,000 or more for the best podcast in the universe is Appreciated it is our value for value model. So I hereby pronounce the sir Devin and sir Chris the Viking sir Devin, of course is from the Beef jerky and Mountain Dew and both of you can now sit at the round table for your Hercus and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Beef Jerky and Mountain Dew or your Wenches and Beer. It's all here along with the hot pants and booze. Thank you so much. We appreciate it, particularly in the dog days of summer when things are slowing down. Dvorak.org slash NA. Well, kind of while we're on that tip, John... The tip about the flying saucer? Yeah, I brought this up on the previous episode

CHAPTER 36 / 50 Discussion

Mars Curiosity Rover, Project Blue Beam Theory

The hosts discuss the upcoming landing of the Mars Curiosity rover, framing it as a potential component of "Project Blue Beam." This conspiracy theory suggests that NASA and the UN plan to use advanced technology to simulate a second coming or alien contact to establish a New World Order. They question the $2 billion price tag and the scientific value of searching for life on Mars.

mars rover· curiosity· nasa· project blue beam· serge monast· mind control

1:53:27 about the getting primed and ready for this Mars landing and We've talked about project blue beam blue beam blue beam before on the show Mars landing is tonight at 10 p.m. West coast time 1 a.m. East Coast time so project blue beam Which the way I understand it is to the the idea is to surface some kind of extraterrestrial life into the mainstream media So that we will be totally encapsulated our president Will have to you know take over full control of the universe etc, but it's really a huge mind control Project oh, I thought it was about the the re-release of the series elf. Yeah, no not quite I

1:54:18 But here's what I'm seeing, and I have a clip here from maybe CNN. So I think this whole thing is really a scam because they've got these incredible videos. We've got the seven minutes of terror, which is just the most ludicrous thing NASA has ever said. Because there'll be seven minutes between the time the rover lands on Mars and but then we'll get pictures back and see if there's life if there's little Martians running around but they've got these amazing videos of the of the sky crane and how this thing is gonna come down so it's already been kind of set into your mind it's been you know the whole

1:54:59 You're not going to see anything. I think what you're going to see is some static flickering. It'll be completely Hollywood controlled and boom, you're going to see like a planet. And who knows if they're going to go through with Project Blue Beam. But here's how it's being programmed into your mind. And I don't understand why we can't watch the landing. Because they're not gonna show anything until it's actually on the studio floor I mean on the surface of Mars just for NASA, but for the United States space program basically Tonight actually on Monday morning at 131 NASA will get either a yes or no from this robot the biggest rover ever sent to Mars the most capable and if everything goes the way NASA hopes it could find out if Mars could have ever supported life on on

1:55:48 on its surface. Is this really what this is about John? Two billion dollars to find out if there's dudes on Mars? Is that really what this is about? I mean please, is this what we're spending our money on? Could you just explain that to me? I don't know what the point of this is and the other thing is what gets me is that they made such a big deal about all these little mini robots that they used to send up to the little cars that you know they had that had all these capabilities they're very small and cheap and they were cheap to send up. Yeah this was expensive. Now all of a sudden we're now we're all of a sudden changed our with with a guy like Obama in office who's essentially cut funding to NASA and now we're spending tons of money for this clunker which will probably you know oh

1:56:33 Exactly. This is my trouble too. Well, listen to the report. In the past or even now. And so you take that information and the answers from those questions, and what do you do with that? Well, NASA wants to know not only if life is present on Mars now or was in the past, but does that mean that Earth isn't a special? You know, we have life everywhere. That Earth isn't special. Okay, this is what it's about. Just to find out if we're not special on our planet, And if we find it on Mars or anywhere else in the solar system, it will help them understand what are the requirements for life? How does life evolve? Is there life somewhere else on another star? We need to understand life now? Yeah.

CHAPTER 37 / 50 Discussion

Seven Minutes of Terror, NASA 3D Renderings

NASA's "seven minutes of terror" promotional video for the Curiosity landing is criticized for its dramatic music and reliance on 3D renderings. The hosts express skepticism about the "sky crane" landing method, calling it ludicrous and over-engineered. They suggest that the public is being conditioned to accept a pre-recorded or simulated event rather than a live landing.

nasa· curiosity rover· sky crane· 3d animation· mars· terror

1:57:17 Uh-huh. All right, here comes the terror, the seven minutes of terror video. You know what's interesting? NASA is making this a big deal. In fact, they're calling it seven minutes of terror. I want to just play a little bit of a video that NASA has released explaining all of this. And listen to the music too. They've spent a large portion of this two billion dollars on these phony videos. Take a listen everybody. When we first get word that we've touched the top of the atmosphere, the vehicle has been alive or dead on the surface for at least seven minutes. It's alive or dead on the surface for at least seven minutes.

1:57:59 Okay, so these seven minutes we're not going to know what happens. What is the percentage likelihood that it's going to go off okay? Because we all get so used to getting the information, we'll expect pictures at some point and more details. I mean you just kind of think it's going to go okay. Yeah, don't they have an Instagram account or something? In fact, this seems to be the most audacious way to land on Mars that NASA has come up with. They're very confident. They haven't given an actual percentage. odds. But they're fairly confident that this is going to work. What they're going to do is go from 13,000 miles an hour to zero in seven minutes using a rocket-powered sky crane that won't even touch down on Mars. It's going to come screeching out of the atmosphere. And then it's going to basically hover over a spot, a gale crater. This is the spot right here on Mars. And it's going to lower this one-ton rover. This is so ludicrous.

1:58:54 a sky crane is going to hover, it's going to drop the thing down and we've seen all of this because they're showing the video, the NASA rendered 3D video but you're being tricked into thinking it's actually happening because now you've seen it, but you won't see it. Down on cables. Yeah. And as soon as the wheels touch the ground it'll send a signal to the sky crane, it detaches cables, flies off, crashes the rover Switches on turns on its cameras 17 of them and starts beaming back pictures to to earth Yeah, so we don't they can't have the cameras during the spectacular Skycrane landing. Oh, we can't have cameras on not until it's on the surface of the studio floor. This whole thing is bogative It's pretty sketchy big scam is what it is. I

1:59:47 Well, we're gonna have to watch it play out to see what what's going well if all of a sudden we did you know this will be the only question is Is there life on Mars or was there life on Mars? I predict they'll probably find that there was life on Mars. You know they'll find like some you know Legos or Legos find something that Martian kids left and that'll be the start of project blue beam. You should Google project blue beam It's very interesting. It's from classified documents. I'm not making it up and Well, it's mostly from one guy who promoted it, who got, he got suicided. Let me just read you from the Rational Wiki, which has a little bit about it.

CHAPTER 38 / 50 Discussion

Serge Monast, Disney Cast Member Labor Model

The hosts provide background on Serge Monast, the journalist who popularized the Project Blue Beam theory before his suspicious death. They also discuss the "cast member" labor model used by Disney in Florida to bypass traditional employment regulations. This is linked to an Olympic "mystery woman" who was later identified as a cast member from the opening ceremony.

serge monast· project blue beam· disney· cast members· labor laws· florida

2:00:30 It's a conspiracy theory that claims NASA is attempting to implement a new age religion with the Antichrist at its head and start a new world order via a technology simulated second coming. The allegations were presented in 1994 by Quebec-Qua journalist and conspiracy theorist Serge Monast and later published in his book Project Blue Beam. Proponents of the theory alleged that Monast and another unnamed journalist both died of heart attacks in 1996, two years later. How unfortunate. They were in fact assassinated. In addition, the Canadian government allegedly kidnapped Monast's daughter in an effort to dissuade him from investigating Project Blue Beam. The project was supposed to be implemented in 1983 but was delayed, then set for implementation in 95 and then 96.

2:01:16 Monast thought Project Bluebeam would be brought to fruition by the year 2000. So that's I think what we're referring to. Yeah, well it would be a perfect timing. We've had the big Illuminati, you know, what do you call it, Olympics What was that, the opening ceremony? Yeah, by the way, I got a thing from the opening ceremony. They finally made it. It's a big scandal. Do you have the clips in front of you? I do. You gotta play this one. Indian woman in red and listen to the key word. This mystery woman in red caused controversy when she joined the Indian delegation at the Olympic Games opening ceremony, which was watched by millions of people around the world. Madhura Nagendra has now come forward. She's an Indian student from Bangalore. In her hometown, she apologized for what she'd done. Considering the fact that it's a huge event, there are thousands of people across the globe working towards it.

2:02:19 In an error of judgment, I resulted in walking with the athletes. In eventuality, I've hurt the sentiments of my people, my brothers and sisters, for which I extend my apologies. Madhura was actually one of the many cast members at the event, but she got a little carried away and decided to join her country's delegation. And in doing so, she secured her own place in Olympic history. She's a cast member? Yeah, I heard I heard somebody else from the cast that was at the podium Call her a cast member cast member from the acting troupe. Yeah Wow Wow so now there isn't I don't know what the point of this some of this is but you know Disney of course came up with this idea as a Florida cast members yeah when Disney built their they've made a deal with the state of Florida, but but they had in Florida onerous

2:03:13 labor laws and So you'd have to pay more than Disney wanted to pay anybody Right and so they came up with this theory that they could make them everyone a cast member They're not employees. They're members of an acting troop right so including the people who pick up the gum yes, and And so when you walk around Disney you see cast members only signage instead of employees only it will say cast members only because they stick with this. They don't, they're not breaking rank on this and so they don't have to pay people as much money. It's a very interesting scam. And the state said sure whatever just build, build, build. Yeah I would like to mention that of course we're just two old guys talking about a theory around Project Bluebeam

CHAPTER 39 / 50 Discussion

NASA Budget Cuts, SpaceX and Private Sector Shift

A theory is proposed that the Mars rover mission is designed to fail to justify cutting NASA's budget and shifting funds to private companies like SpaceX. The hosts also mock the scientific consensus on Mars' atmosphere and its lack of a magnetic field. They conclude that the mission is a waste of resources regardless of the outcome.

nasa· spacex· barack obama· privatization· mars· global warming

2:03:54 The younger cast member here on No Agenda, Buzzkill Jr., just sent me a note. He says, here's what's going on with the rover. It's a huge overpriced project intended to fail so as to cut all budget to NASA so the money can go to the private sector like SpaceX. We are no longer allowed to dream. He always puts some little cornball thing in there. I like that. You got a good kid there, John. That's buzzkill jr. You come up with that sure net now that I'm more inclined to buy into that I actually think that's a pretty good theory cuz that that does pull the plug all these guys are just wasting our money Yes, we were made and Obama looks like a genius cuz he knew in advance that NASA was a waste of money and that's and so that's good I'll take that you can put that in the book actually a little buzzkill jr. Page so so it's either here we go it's either project blue beam

2:04:50 Or it's destined to fail. Either one of those. I like the destined to fail, but how could it fa- we'd have to have... It would be- Going to seven minutes of terror. Yeah. It just blows up. Let's face it, that contraption is ludicrous. It would be such a waste of studio space and time though, not to flip on the cameras at least for a minute. It would be funny if they had like, well it landed but the wheels broke and the tripod is all crooked. So a slanted... Video of a rock. Yeah right, slanted, yeah we can't make it move. It'll be very... but you know one thing's for sure, a lot of stupid slaves are gonna be watching live tonight.

2:05:37 Oh yeah. Really exciting television. Well, it could be riveting. It can't? It could. Well, if they make it all... Look at the 3D video that NASA has produced is good stuff. They've got sound effects, they've got the entry into Mars' atmosphere. What kind of atmosphere does Mars have, actually? They show this capsule burning up. They have almost no atmosphere left. But they show it's like... Yeah, because they have global warming. Oh, wait. Maybe they have to prove the global warming ruined Mars Because because of all the Martians no magnetic guts and so that's really what happened to the Atmosphere has been wiped away by the solar winds. How do you know all this? This is a known this is the problem with Mars. It's got no wait. You're gonna say fact. Oh, yes science is in John C. Dvorak Martian scientist I actually everybody knows that yeah every everybody knows it's science and

2:06:34 No, there's no, they don't have a magnetic field to protect them. So then how does this thing even, how can it be going 13,000 miles an hour down to Earth? To Mars, I mean. How does it work? How does the science work? Well, it's just gonna go down and crash is what it's gonna do. The crane is gonna malfunction. Good one, Buzzkill Jr. So, um... We'll see. Well, we'll know. We'll know by the next show. Oh, no, I'm sorry. There's not going to be a next show. The atmosphere of Mars is relatively thin and composed mostly of carbon dioxide. Oh. It's just that it's not going to have any... It's just, I'm telling you, this thing's going straight down. Boom. It's just going to crash. Seven minutes of terror. The seven minutes of terror.

CHAPTER 40 / 50 Discussion

Libya Update, Sharia Law and Women's Rights

Following the fall of Muammar Gaddafi, Libya's National Transitional Council has moved to restore Sharia law, including provisions for polygamy. The hosts highlight the irony of U.S. intervention leading to a decrease in women's rights, as more Libyan women are now required to wear the hijab. They criticize Hillary Clinton and John McCain for their roles in the revolution.

libya· sharia law· muammar gaddafi· hillary clinton· hijab· polygamy

2:07:18 So, I've got an update on Libya. So we know what's going on in Libya. Okay, I'm looking for it. It's at the bottom. No. Just above taxed the German rich. Oh, yes. Ready for it? Yeah, hit it. These images of Muammar Gaddafi injured and stumbling, a spectacle of a tyrant's violent death. A few weeks later, the president of the National Transitional Council restored Sharia law as called for by many Islamist revolutionaries. He spoke of a return to polygamy and outlawing divorce. Sukaina says it's setting women's rights back years. Was women created to stay at home, to have children and cook? Of course not. And this speech did not respect women. It's hard to stomach and we will not stand for it.

2:08:06 Sharia was always present in some way in Libya, but it could now become so in every aspect of life here. Libyan women all now wear the Islamic veil, the hijab, which most did not in the Gaddafi era. Many women say they are disappointed by the concrete results of the revolution, but all agree they've gained one precious thing, the freedom to speak out. Yeah, that really worked out well, didn't it? Yeah, another winner for Hillary. And McCain. Yeah. Good job everybody. Because Hillary wants to promote women's rights and now they're all going to wear the hijab.

2:08:43 And they would be, then they have to, they get beat up and whatever. The, you know, this is pretty common. So, yeah, that was a good one. And of course, the woman says, well, at least we have the right to speak out. Yeah, that's going to last. Yeah. Yeah. Speak out about what? Like, boy, this hijab is warm. That's about all you can say. That's our Libyan update. Yeah. Update on the false flag in Arizona. And now it's time for some other news. Sources say that the man accused of shooting former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and 18 others wants to plead guilty. Jared Lee Loeffner will have a chance to enter that plea in court on Tuesday. NBC News correspondent. Interesting. He wants to plead guilty now. He wants to plead guilty. He wants to plead guilty. Please let me plead guilty. There was a very interesting theory. I think I tweeted it actually.

CHAPTER 41 / 50 Discussion

Aurora Shooting Theories, Scopolamine and Shrapnel

The hosts discuss alternative theories regarding the Aurora theater shooting and the Jared Lee Loughner case. They mention "scopolamine" as a potential drug used for mind control and report on listener claims of shrapnel injuries that do not match official bullet reports. They speculate on whether the events were staged for media ratings or political purposes.

aurora shooting· jared lee loughner· scopolamine· cnn· ratings· gabrielle giffords

2:09:33 uh... about uh... the joker and how this probably went down and the theory involved scope palamine yes scopalamine scopalamine which uh... is often prescribed to people of motion sickness but also post uh... operative nausea and of course uh... it's side effects include disorientation blurred vision dilated pupils hello ring a bell confusion Hallucinations and dizziness rapid-fire hallucinations But there's this there's this whole theory which is very very plausible actually that there was actually two shooters two henchmen and that this guy was just basically propped up against the wall and Just just waited there because he was completely doped up. Well, then take that a little further to another

2:10:35 piece of information that keeps cropping up and we had I think it came in one of our emails from one of our listeners that was in the area about people that have got went to the went to the hospital with with injuries and the injuries were not from bullets or from shrapnel from a bomb. Oh really? I didn't see that email. One of our listeners said that and the doctors have been talking about there's no, this is shrapnel injuries, they're on the legs and around from something that exploded. And nobody in the local media, according to this article or according to this note, is covering that part of it. They've just been blacked out. Interesting. But I still can't figure out why.

2:11:17 You know, if it was really meant as a, you know, other than getting ratings for CNN, which they haven't come in yet, but I'm sure CNN did Blockbuster for about a week. Was it Sweeps by any chance? Did we have Sweeps week? I don't think it was. Did we have, I wonder? Sweeps doesn't usually take place in the, during the summer seasons. Let me just see if we can get recent CNN ratings. I just don't understand who would benefit, if this truly was fake and there's so much pointing to it. There's just so many open ends and loose ends and weirdness. I still think the possibility existed. It was an assassination of one of those people. And it's been covered up by the whole scene, you know, one of those ideas where you try to kill somebody but you don't want anyone to know. I mean, it's just, who knows? Yeah, possible. Yeah, there's really not any, there's no current, I think the ratings, we have them on Monday.

CHAPTER 42 / 50 Discussion

Belarus Teddy Bear Drop, Pro-Democracy Stunt

Two Swedish advertising executives dropped 800 teddy bears with pro-democracy messages over Belarus from an ultralight plane. The stunt led to the firing of top Belarusian defense officials by President Alexander Lukashenko. The hosts suggest the event was orchestrated to embarrass the regime and expose flaws in its air defense system.

belarus· teddy bears· alexander lukashenko· sweden· air defense· democracy

2:12:17 Well, the CNN certainly benefited, but it seems like quite a stretch, you know, to kill all these people just for some ratings. Yeah, I don't think that was it. Well, crazier things have happened, you know, it's a lot of money involved. So you're hearing about, I think one of our new targets, even though it's not on the list of seven, seems to be Belarus. No, I haven't heard this. Are they next? I think so. Play this clip. Could it be the first time ever that a country has been terrified by teddy bears? Possibly not, but what's clear is the drop of some 800 or so fluffy air intruders over Belarus last month has led to the fall of two of the country's top defence chiefs. They got the axe this week after a fuming president, Alexander Lukashenko, scolded authorities. The two Swedish advertising employees behind the bear drop said the aim was to embarrass Belarus' military, seen by many as the core of

2:13:15 Lukashenko's power. A dictator can be feared and he can be hated but when people start to laugh at him his days are numbered. Despite initial denials authorities were forced to react when news of the pro-democracy stunt appeared on the internet. Dropping teddy bears. So they took a private plane, flew it over the capital I guess and dropped 800 teddy bears on the public. To show that they don't have any air defense, and nobody, you know, I guess risking the, a missile blowing the thing out of the air. We can get you anytime, bitches. Anytime we want. I think the whole thing was orchestrated by us. Oh, well it seems like a, like something we do. Yeah. If the teddy bears were made in China. They were dropped from an ultralight.

2:14:02 So they dropped all these teddy bears and now the whole country's falling apart. So... Just seems very sketchy. Supposedly they're two Swedish advertising executives. What the hell they got to do with anything? This whole thing is just, you start following the story, you'll... it's just a total head shaker. It's like, no, uh-uh, wrong. I do want to get back to the Joker for a second because there is some distinct evidence of what this is being used for. Before it's a crime, it's pre-crime. So there's a lot of weird language in this clip from Pooper. In fact, the clip is named Pooper Promoting Pre-Crime. And see if you can help me figure this one out.

CHAPTER 43 / 50 Discussion

Pre-Crime Beta Teams, Behavioral Evaluation and Threat Assessment

The University of Colorado's "Beta Team" (Behavioral Evaluation and Threat Assessment) is scrutinized following the Aurora shooting. These teams are designed to identify potential threats on campus before they act. The hosts compare this to "pre-crime" and express concern over the expansion of such surveillance units in educational institutions.

beta team· pre-crime· virginia tech· university of colorado· psychiatry· threat assessment

2:14:46 Could I have done anything? Or did I see anything? Did I miss anything? Is there anything that gives, that sheds any light on motive? He left school a month ago, so that clearly indicates that something wasn't right. I'll be willing to bet there were warning signs out there. Maybe there's warning signs that in hindsight you could have seen. We start to look and like, what could we have done, I get it, to prevent this from happening. Last night our Denver affiliate KMGH broke the story that a University of Colorado psychiatrist that the suspect was seeing was so alarmed by his behavior that she told the campus threat assessment team or beta team about it. Why is it called a beta team? Campus threat beta team? No, it's the campus threat assessment team. Now they've had this I think since Virginia Tech colleges around Gitmo Nation US have

2:15:38 threat assessment teams, but they call them the beta team. And we'll listen to the rest of the clip, maybe we can find this on the book of knowledge, but I don't understand why it's called the beta team. There must be a reason for it. This was a team that the psychiatrist, Dr. Lynn Fenton, seen there, actually helped set up. Now, according to KMGH, this happened in the first 10 days of June. June 7th is when the suspect bought the assault rifle he allegedly used. June 10th is when he dropped out of the university, which is apparently why the Beta team took no further action because he dropped out. The university says their people did what they should have done. Here's what the Denver Post is reporting. Lynn Fenton said back in 2010 to the school's Academic and Student Affairs Leadership Committee about how to deal with threats. Quote, generally if you think the threat is imminent, call campus police. If you think it's best to involve the Beta team, contact

2:16:28 Lin Fenton. Campus Police first if you think it's imminent or the Beta Team. Did she think the threat was imminent? That's really the question here given that the suspect had already left the university. The question is should Dr. Fenton or the Beta Team still have called the campus police or possibly even local police? Beta Team. Beta Team stands for Behavioral Evaluation and Threat Assessment. Oh beautiful, beautiful. Well there you go we're gonna have Beta Teams everywhere. Mr. Curry the beta team has determined that you just might be a threat to society Right and when you put the person on the air you play the clip, so I do not know my line Is this a clip I'm supposed to be looking for it's right there. I can't see it so So oh I so you said it wrong here. It is

CHAPTER 44 / 50 Discussion

FERPA Privacy Loopholes, Student Record Disclosure

The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) is revealed to have significant loopholes that allow schools to disclose student records without consent. These exceptions include "health and safety emergencies" and requests from law enforcement or judicial orders. The hosts argue that the act provides no real privacy and serves as a tool for state authorities.

ferpa· privacy· student records· department of education· law enforcement· safety

2:17:26 So I found this clip as a teaser for the 30 Rock show and I said this is an evergreen clip we have to put it in the pile. It's in the evergreens let me put it in right now that's a good one I so don't know my lines Well, this conversation on pooper continued with some experts and essentially what they're trying to do now is say that you know the when a beta team is alerted then if you're under psychiatric evaluation or if you're seeing if you're just talking to a therapist which could also pronounce as the rapist but if you're seeing a therapist then that information should be allowed to be made public. Certainly questions were raised. Is there a confidentiality thing about calling the police?

2:18:12 Not at that point, Anderson. Let's assume that certain things we've heard so far are true, although we don't know that they are, which is that Dr. Fenton alerted the Beta team at the university that she had concerns about Holmes. At that point, that she decided already to breach her confidentiality to share certain information, if she did, that's the point at which the information that the team had becomes protected by a federal privacy statute called FERPA. It's the Family Education Rights and Privacy Act. generally, student education records are protected. The universities can't release them. But if there is an emergency situation, if there's a significant or articulable threat, the team can reach out to community resources, community mental health, local law enforcement. It's also possible under FERPA for the team to have potentially contacted Holmes' parents. You're allowed to contact the parents of dependent students. Now I don't know if Holmes was a dependent of them, but he was 24, which means he could have been. And at that point, FERPA would have allowed contact with the

2:19:10 parents potentially there so I think the university couldn't have controlled him once he withdrew but it certainly had some options to impact on him it had control over his transcript as well and whether he could ever access that so we did have things that it could do and I agree with Barry on that. So this is very interesting this FERPA which is something we missed it came out last year August 2011 The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act is a federal law that protects the privacy of student education records. The law applies to all schools that receive funds under an applicable program of the U.S. Department of Education. But apparently it gives the schools the right to release this information. Yeah, this is not a... all the privacy acts, it says privacy. You know it's not about privacy. It's bullcrap. It's just the opposite. Yeah, it's exactly. Here it is.

2:20:02 Generally, I love it whenever they say generally inter alia schools must have written permission from the parents or eligible students in order to release any information from a student's education record however FERPA allows schools to disclose those records without consent to the following parties or under the following conditions we have school officials with legitimate educational interest okay other schools to which a student is transferring specified officials for audit or evaluation purposes there you go audit appropriate parties in connection with financial aid to a student, organizations conducting certain studies for or on behalf of the school, semicolon, accrediting organizations to comply with a judicial order or lawfully issued subpoena, appropriate officials in cases of health and safety emergencies, there it is, and state and local authorities within a juvenile justice system pursuant to specific state law. So basically, you have no privacy.

CHAPTER 45 / 50 Discussion

Anwar al-Awlaki, FBI Warrant Omission

A congressional hearing revealed that the FBI dropped an outstanding arrest warrant for Anwar al-Awlaki in 2002, allowing him to remain free before he was eventually killed in a U.S. drone strike. The hosts discuss the implications of the government killing an American citizen without trial. They suggest that al-Awlaki may have been a double agent or part of a staged extraction.

anwar al-awlaki· fbi· warrant· drone strike· american citizen· congressional hearing

2:21:01 They can just release everything. It's what it sounds like. And we just missed this one and has a cool name for book for privacy act. That was what I was looking at the other day. It was something the same thing. It was said one thing and you read it. So just the opposite. Yeah, like Internet freedom. Yeah, whatever. Let me just get back to buskill jr. For a moment. My God, that guy is good. So he says, and this makes so much sense with what I'm saying. They didn't even build the lander. They didn't even build it. They just were gonna report that it failed. Because we haven't actually seen it. We've only seen 3D renderings of it. You've only seen renderings. Let me see if there's got to be a picture of... Let me see. What's it called? The Mars Rover picture. Show me the Mars Rover. Oh, it's only renderings. Let's see. JPL. Huh.

2:22:06 They you know he's damn that kid is right here to put this foot in Mars Rover And then I'm just looking at the official website the official website doesn't have a real picture of it First images there's a picture in the Christian Science Monitor of the thing yeah, does it big does it look like like spinal tap? It's huge No, it looks like the real deal. I believe we do have it. I think he's wrong on this hmm And this is just a mock, this could be just a, you know, a kid's model but it's big. That's my point. I mean it could just... Now here's another picture of him putting it together. But the best picture is... Yeah.

2:22:47 Here's the best here's what you do go to just put Mars rover in the regular search and then click on images Yeah, and you guys see this one picture of the of the of the aliens on Mars It's like occupy Mars Mars for Martians it says yeah very funny very very funny and uh... circuit mostly i'm not sure miss mickey was talking about doing and no gender producers update that update on the hot pockets to her after the show on the stream uh... so just skype her i think she's inside and uh... as we draw to a close here i do have uh... what there was a uh... the f b i

2:23:39 Just going back to kind of false flags. It was a congressional hearing where representative Frank Wolf kicked this one off and Besides the fact that he can't seem to pronounce a locky We know a locky was the American wasn't that the American citizen who got droned and his kid got droned to? Al-a-waki or al-waki al-a-waki Yeah, whatever that guy so representative Frank pronounces it in an interesting way which should just be the new name from now on and But the FBI apparently had an arrest warrant and dropped it conveniently. Oh yeah, no, this is an old story. Yeah, but it's just a couple of years ago. But it's just now being reported on. No, you weren't listening to enough right-wing radio or there was some, or maybe it was left-wing radio, or maybe it was Democracy Now!, I don't know, but this was a very well-discussed story in the media underground. It just wasn't mainstream.

2:24:34 Interesting. I didn't know about it, so here it is. with a full accounting of its prior interactions with Al-Akwi, including the notable omission of Al-Akwi's return to the U.S. in October 2002 when the FBI dropped an outstanding warrant for his arrest. Imagine if that warrant had not been dropped, and it would not be good if the FBI had not communicated to Judge Webster uh... for the full county of a lock with prior interactions now it is also possible there's just another guy named a lock we and they're talking about some other dude no i didn't know i still think it was an extraction i'd be i could be wrong but i've never for a minute believe that they can actually be the guy up and it would be a war crime and it would probably punish will all kinds of different things

2:25:30 Especially since he's an American citizen. I think the whole thing was staged and they pulled him back, shaved his beard and put him back into service. He's living right side of, he's right out there in Virginia right now as we speak. You know, you must have downloaded a big picture. Did I break up? No, you got helium. Well, that's too bad because I thought my analysis was good. No, we all understood your analysis. It didn't quite have the punch though when you're talking five octaves high. No, no, I talk like this. Okay, well I'm not gonna reconnect. I think we just leave it this way for the end of the show okay Let me see what else that I have we had Yeah, there's this Bogative news agency. Let me see JC who downloaded the big file yeah, probably and there's a

CHAPTER 46 / 50 Discussion

HealthDay TV, Fluoride and Medical Journalism

The hosts critique "HealthDay," a medical news service they label as a "Ministry of Truth." They mock a report claiming that fluoride-free bottled water is harming children's teeth and encouraging parents to use tap water. They point out that the organization's management consists primarily of journalists rather than medical doctors.

healthday· fluoride· bottled water· dr. cindy haynes· reuters· ministry of truth

2:26:29 Healthday. Healthday is the name of this... Healthday.com. Let's just check these dudes out for a second. Hold on. Healthday.com. And this has been propagated. Yeah, who's running Healthday? I see this is the stuff that pisses me off when I'm on tour. I don't have time to look at all this. Daily health news for consumers and medical professionals. Let's see, management team. Let's see who's in here. So you take a look at that and here's the report. Headline, uh, fluoride-free bottled water is harming children. It's killing them. Well, what it's doing is it's killing their teeth. You shouldn't be giving your kid bottled water. It has to be from the tap. It has to be the fluoride coming from what they put in the water.

2:27:28 Here's who's on board this management team here. Bunch of journalists and... Journalists, exactly. CEO of Reuters Health. Ah, this is complete Ministry of Truth here. Here, oh, we have a little video. Health headlines. Oh, this should be good. Hi, I'm Dr. Cindy Haynes of HealthDayTV. Hi, Cindy. Experts sound the alarm about psychological abuse in children. Could some energy-efficient light bulbs be harmful to your skin? Yeah, you think? And why Parkinson's patients may want to start their day with a cup of coffee. First up, the American Academy of Pediatrics warns that psychological abuse may be the most prevalent form of child abuse and neglect. Well, yeah.

2:28:09 Of course! Psychological abuse might be the biggest form of psychological abuse. What a great, this is fantastic. Our products, consumer, this is the ministry of truth. You gotta be looking at these guys. It's not a doctor in the house. They're all just journalists. Bunch of writers that used to write for the medical page. Yeah. Dun and Bradstreet and subsidiaries. Yeah, Jeff Walsh, one of the original founders of Health Day, has more than 30 years of journalism experience. Actually, the only doctor is that one you just listened to. She's Dr. Cindy. Yeah. She's Health Day's chief medical officer. She's the CMO. Dr. Cindy. Sounds better when you say it on the helium. Yeah. Dr. Cindy, come here! My knee hurts!

CHAPTER 47 / 50 Discussion

Sudan Oil Deal, German Wealth Tax Meme

Hillary Clinton is credited with brokering an oil deal between Sudan and South Sudan, though the hosts remain skeptical of the actual agreement. Meanwhile, a "tax the rich" meme is spreading through Germany, with calls for a wealth tax on the global elite. The hosts note the international coordination of these economic narratives.

sudan· south sudan· hillary clinton· oil· wealth tax· germany

2:29:06 Okay, then I do want to thank Hillary Clinton for putting together such a great Bogota. This is amazing So Hillary is now being credited for reuniting Sudan and South Sudan But no, but there's no agreement. She just gets up there and says well, this is great We've got an agreement and it's all perfect, but there's no agreement. I She is floating around Africa doing something. Yeah, well she's got to like organize all the Texas oil companies and all the pipelines before she gets out I guess. She has some cleaning up to do. But South Sudan will transfer three billion dollars to Sudan as a financial grant over the next three years basically to just move it through. And they're only going to be paying an average of nine dollars and fifty cents a barrel.

2:29:56 Wow, what are we paying in our barrel a hundred? No, it's about 89. Okay close enough So we're nine bucks. Where does it get marked up? Who's doing the markup on that middlemen? Wow, it's just a barrel of oil is just a barrel of oil I don't know So wherever the whole world what the whole world is picking up on the tax the rich rich meme and it's showing up on the socialist very socialist news stations. Mm-hmm Now they're going after the Germans. Just play this little clip and just think about it for next show. For that we demand a tax on wealth. Angela Merkel is on holiday and wasn't there to see the German Scrooge McDuck dish out his fake gold. The German authorities have taken on the rich, some reportedly paying for information on tax evaders.

2:30:49 A recent international report claimed a wealthy global elite have 17 trillion euros stashed away in tax havens. Hello, hello, hey citizen. Hello citizens, the wealthy elite have all the money, you are being screwed. Wow, 17 trillion. Hello citizens, citizens of Gitmo Nation Deutschland, you must hate rich people, hate rich people. We already do it in America, very good, very good. Carry on, nothing to see here. This is bad. Totally bad. Wow, can't the Germans come up with something else? Their own thing? No, we lead the way in memes. Yeah, we do. We're the meme-meisters. We are the meme-meisters. Alright then, I guess we'll just wrap it up with some Agenda 21 stuff. Yeah, USDA now looking... I keep forgetting to bring up Eric's Agenda 21 problem. Well, it'll be very interesting to hear it in this voice.

CHAPTER 48 / 50 Discussion

Agenda 21, Water Well Meters in Washington State

A listener report from Washington State claims that authorities are requiring meters on private water wells as part of "sustainability" initiatives. The hosts link this directly to the UN's Agenda 21 program. They promise a more detailed investigation into how local governments are charging citizens for their own well water.

agenda 21· sustainability· washington state· water rights· un· meters

2:31:49 Well, I don't want to do it in this voice. That's the problem. You're going in and out. So sometimes it's okay. Okay, well let me just say this. On Thursday, it's not anything that needs to be rushed into, but on Thursday I'm going to reveal how they're screwing the public, the UN is screwing the public of Washington State in particular, but apparently all over the country, and making him pay, they're making him put a meter, starting with putting a meter A meter on his well. Wait a minute, on his own water well that he drilled into the ground? Wow, and they're going to charge him for it? Yeah, yeah.

2:32:32 No. Yes, and this is going on all over the country and it's a part of sustainability. He tracked it right back to Agenda 21. And I'll talk about this in more detail on Thursday. I will say the number one most frequently asked question at the meetups, John, is, here it is, is John ever going to do his special Scholastic episode? The answer to that is yes. And when you say it like that we've got to believe it. It's a fact. It's a fact. Because... The science is in! We got a lot of people who are very interested in that, John. You've teased it so many times. They really are interested. They want it. So bring it on. I'll make a... You know what I think I'm going to do? I'm going to pioneer something on this show.

CHAPTER 49 / 50 Discussion

Global Warming and Fish Suffocation, Monsanto Corn

CBS News reports that extreme heat and drought are causing fish to suffocate in the Illinois River due to low oxygen levels. The hosts question the biology of the report, suggesting that fish would simply swim to deeper, cooler water. They also mention the USDA's move to approve Monsanto's drought-tolerant corn amid the record-breaking heat.

global warming· fish· oxygen· illinois river· monsanto· drought

2:33:21 I'm going to create a package. A package with a donut. So the USDA, the United States Department of Agriculture, is looking to approve Monsanto's drought tolerant corn. Of course because of the drought, which is all linked to you breathing, they're going to approve drought tolerant corn. Corn that doesn't need water apparently. It's crazy. This is not good. And then this CBS, the compromise news agency, I've got to ask you a couple of questions whether this is true or not, but global warming is killing the fish, John. And this is ask John because you know more about biology than I do.

2:34:13 If this can actually be happening. The government gave us a new report today about the drought. So the government, so it started right, the government gave us a new script today with a package that we're going to play for you. Now covers more of the lower 48 states than at any other time on record. So first of all, do you know if this is true? That this drought is worse than any other time on record? Mmm, I don't think so. For nearly a quarter of the country, the drought is extreme. Jim Axelrod found that it's even hurting people. Wait a minute, he just said it there. Did you just hear it? He said, for nearly a quarter of a century.

2:34:52 Wow. And they don't want to go back to the 30s. Wow. Let me hear that again. A quarter of a century is like... 25 years. Yeah, that's nothing. But it sounds good when you say a quarter of a century. Well, first he says ever and then he says quarter of a century. I didn't even hear that the first time. Let's listen to it. The government gave us a new report today about the drought. It now covers more of the lower 48 states than at any other time on record. For nearly a quarter of the country, The drought is extreme. I'm sorry, quarter of the country. I thought I said quarter of a century, my mistake. Jim Axelrod found that it's even hurting people on the water.

2:35:31 90 miles southwest of Chicago, signs of this cruel summer float lifelessly on the water. We were 108 down here for four or five days in a row. Tremendous heat. Fishing guide Buster Colgin hates what he's seeing on the Illinois River. Every morning there was a lot of dead carp floating downriver. Just because it was too hot? Too hot. The water was too hot? Extremely, it was too hot. So because the water is too hot, the fish are dying? You just go deeper into the water when it's too hot at the top. They're saying because it's five degrees... Well, listen to the report. I can't... It's hard for me to believe this. Hotter, shallower water has less oxygen. The fish suffocate. Is this true? Is this true? John? Fish... Yeah, the fish don't stay there. That's the point. They swim away. They swim away?

2:36:30 Where do they swim to? Anyplace, I mean it's like unless they're in a pond, there's plenty of places to go. Wow. Well they're saying because of global warming, the fish are dying. It's been hot before. The fish are dying. The chat room says it's true. Oh, okay, good. We're not eating fish this week. It's the war on fish, my friend. It's all over. Okay. All right. Well, if you were a fisherman, I'd love to know. Do the fish just swim away? Or do they... Why wouldn't they? Or do they suffocate? Or do they just suffocate? That's what we'd like to know. Please let us know.

CHAPTER 50 / 50 Discussion

Outro, National Anthem and Sign-off

The hosts conclude the episode as they prepare to travel toward Glenwood Springs and Aspen for further meetups. They remind listeners of the "value for value" model and the upcoming producer update on the live stream. The show ends with the playing of the "Gitmo Nation National Anthem."

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2:37:20 So right after the show, after we have everything uploaded, we re-hitch the Sin Bin to Mustang Sally. We're on our way to Glenwood Springs, Colorado, which we will not make tonight, but we will be there. Spending a lot of time in Colorado, suspiciously enough. It's a big state, John. It's a big state. And so we'll be traveling on I-70 westbound. Towards the great state of Utah, but first Glenwood Springs and Aspen we got a couple meetups So right after this show on no agenda stream calm will be the no agenda producer update with Miss Mickey get most slave Mr. Oil, etc. So stay tuned for that and remember us at Dvorak org slash na our value for value model keeps us rolling and

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