Excited Delerium

00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday August 2nd 2012 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 431! This is no agenda... Parked in the shadow of North Com, smack in the middle of the real government headquarters Denver Colorado In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where there is no such place I am John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill You're telling me there's nothing in these mountains here? No, there is nothing there. Nothing to see here. By the way those slogans are still on the Sin Bin and Mustang Sally. Good I hope people get a kick out of it. Oh! I have to mention we're actually in Erie

00:56 Erie, Pennsylvania. Erie, Indiana? Erie Colorado, Colorado. Is it e-e-r-i-e? One e, e-r-i-e Oh And we are right in the flight path of a small airport here So from time to time you'll hear something coming over Do not be alarmed As long as it doesn't hit the thing You hooked who you hooked up to what are you doing? Okay, well shall I give you a little summary of the past few days since we last might as well Give us a rundown okay. I mean I hope I don't bore you or anything no No, I think if people are interested to appoint

01:32 Okay, so thanks. When we last spoke... where was I? When we last spoke, I was in Dallas Texas. Right! So we left Dallas and drove to Kansas and parked in... I thought you were being Kansas today No no no, look it's been four days come on four days John Yeah, but I know you can drive across the whole country in four days if you just get in the thing and stomp on it and go and Go and go and go. And yeah so that's not much of an option let me explain So we drove to Kansas

02:09 uh... towards wichita where producer john lennard with his wonderful wife mary and his son at john junior this is amazing gag a kind of john and mary john john america was actually there are other twenty ninth wedding anniversary which they form before they gave up to take us out to dinner to entertain as maybe after twenty nine years maybe no one cares i don't know how you probably have a tough on the third i'm just saying and on the way up, basically the tailpipe and the muffler all kind of fell off. Mustang Sally Which gave us a lot of tailpipe and the muffler fell off it kind of took it with it The tail pipe kind of took the muffler along with it Which is not good for your heat situation for your back pressure all kinds of things are not so great Yeah, it also makes a lot of racket. It makes some racket and of course we had 111 degrees on the road

03:07 and so we of course wound up turning off the air conditioner. It's probably the air conditioner that made the thing... Now let's back up a minute That was not a fun trip, let me tell you that now where did this happen? On what is it 35 is that what we took off no I can't remember Was is on the way to Wichita? Yeah yeah The muffler and tailpipe fell off yes It looks like... Nobody when they're checking your car noticed there may have been, you know not bolted on or it's rusting? Well the rust was kind of a known factor. So but it is okay! It's alright, you know just the problem was that heat issue because you do start to get into a little bit elevation and yeah I guess its a strain on thing to go up to. Going into the Rocky Mountains

04:01 It's not known as easy on a car. No, no and luckily though we didn't have to turn on the heater to cool down the car so we didn't have to go that extreme just yet but it was pretty bad and uh... so we can see we have to which it's on a john lennard very interesting guy he's an aeronautical engineer of course wichita is the home with aviation this is where all the big aviation companies are um... he works for learjet but there's a you know every uh... every plane really do that as assembled his pretty much uh... designed engineered in and many cases assembled in wichita which i found out is because it is exactly the furthest from each coast

04:44 of the United States, so if someone wanted to bomb the facilities going back to World War II they would have to fly the furthest inland that you could imagine. There's no other reason than being in Wichita but also Airbus is now in Wichita and what so I met up with a couple other engineers and John he actually well he chases work, he's a contractor. So he lives in a trailer and he has been in Wichita for three years but also lives in San Diego you know is on the combination of military and civilian engineering jobs are very interesting guy beautiful trailer by his trailers go

05:28 He's got a fireplace in there. Oh, yeah No you can make you can do well at it really great. Yeah and his wife hates hotels so they decided no we're just gonna live in a trailer, so it was really nice and But he has a side hobby which is phenomenal go to Doon buggy golf carts calm this isn't gonna crack you up So he's a monthly donor uh... home to my golf caroline buggy golf call carts cards dot com and then look at the do you know i got a newb doing what they're doing so we actually he makes dune buggies out of golf carts in because you know he's an engineer so he designed this body out of fiberglass it looks at it that they've seen these kinds of things in this beautiful

06:20 I never saw it as a golf cart. So he actually had the golden orange one you see there and actually had, you know, here's the keys we're tooling around the RV park going to the showers and so he said... Yeah, so he is selling these to rich Arabs who show up there to pick their airbus or whatever Um, but well they take a couple of these things back. Oh yeah! Oh yeah! They load them up. Drive them into the Airbus and haul em' back to Saudi Arabia. But here's what interesting so... They're very pretty. Very pretty So there's a lot of engineers up there and I had the opportunity to talk to couple. And, uh... and of course when aviation guys get together you know there is two camps really. There is the sheet metal on rivets camp which is what I belong too which is Boeing still makes sheet metal in rivet airplanes. Then there's the plastic aircraft which is whatever one else particularly Airbus' making so without naming names

07:22 Without fail, these engineers all said yeah We actually don't like flying in our own airplanes if they're made out of plastic They won't even fly in them. That's how much they trust this whole composite carbon fiber crap Really? Uh-huh and check this out so the Airbus Which is made out of plastic it may not be and so according to the dreamliner a plastic plane too Yeah that's also plastic According to the specs, these aircraft are not allowed on the runway if it's 125 degrees or more. Now it's already 111 in Kansas City imagine some Arab dude picking up his Airbus taking it to Rydia or wherever... Yeah, Rydia! Parking out on the tarmac and it can easily be a hundred twenty-five degrees I mean doesn't seem that's what it is every day yeah and it just starts to melt away

08:19 I was like, wow this is good inside information. So this is the kind of stuff that I'm getting on the road which it's always entertaining They took us out to dinner at this fantastic South American joint where I had... what was it? Papoose us have you ever heard of pupusas I have her a pupu so my god it was Salvadorian papoosas and in Wichita Kansas no less yeah that was nice oh um and then of course I had to find this place to get a new muffler i found Kevin's American muffler

08:58 John, this was like a reality show. This is like one of those Pimp My Ride shows. What's your problem here boy? Seriously! What you got going on and it was three guys exactly the same you know like five feet tall big beer belly black clothes bald head big earrings full of tats will hook you right up they threw in some chrome tips for me too $400 later I might add...I'm good to go And then we booked on over to Topeka, and of course Topeka Kansas is where the state capitol is. And important because my great uncle, my grandfather's brother John Stewart Curry painted these huge murals inside the Capitol building of John Brown

09:43 Now John Brown, you know the story behind him? I used to. John Brown was a famous abolitionist and he essentially he armed or he organized the citizens of places like Lawrence Kansas and kicked the Federalists out but they did it with pitchforks and muskets This by the way was one of the progenitive that's the right word uh... or whether origins of the tenth amendment battle because this was a was a states rights tenth amendment state's rights issue in their at rouse to defense uh... they just literally ran out of town yet get out and so john brown was near this is really huge larger than life guy and i guess my great uncle was buddies with him which makes so much sense could be he was basically

10:37 you know, an anti-government crackpot. And so we go into the Capitol building and they're going through security like a magnetometer or whatever and the guys say oh you're here to see the murals? I said yeah! So of course Mickey's like yeah this is Adam Curry, he knows his great uncle. Really?! Yeah. He said Oh are you such a hard nose ass like John Stewart and John Brown So what do you mean? Oh, well wait until you see the murals. Because John Stewart Curry would paint some of the senators as pigs faces which you can see on these murals like this makes so much sense my lineage! My heritage! These murals are fantastic to see them they're really big. Miss Mickey will be posting pictures that on the Hot Pockets Tour Facebook page itm.im slash tour09

11:30 then we said that was good by the way you know I go around when i'm traveling I actually seek out art uh... we tried to stop at the world's largest prairie dog but we did we just all that guy would actually be a good thing guys stick out quality are bad also seek out the fact that sort of we tried here we tried the world's largest prairie dog is unsure if it's scamming the jackal i think will catch on the way back when you drive back from colorado um... so they went to our arm told by the way i'd need to thank

12:06 Um, another producer in Wichita. Uh it was Neil Smith who he and this was a so all these guys are engineers right? And so and uh so John Lawrence said well you got to get this stuff this wet wetter have you ever heard of this no So you put it into your radiator and it helps your car run cooler and it's some kind of like punch I don't know It looks looks like Hawaiian punch And so Neil brought a couple of bottles over and poured it in, and it did seem to help along with the muffler. Everything seems to help when you're not really testing it? Well we had the... So we drove to Topeka then we drove to Lawrence where we had our meetup

12:49 and it was well taken care of actually. It kept cool, we were able to keep the air conditioning on so you still gotta be careful just on how fast you go. 57 miles an hour seems to be optimum to keep it cooling and running which is not very fast. No And we had a great meet up there organized by Jason Baker who organized also paid for drinks and dinner from his Mickey and I. We had nice crowd, let's say about 20 people brought their kids who were also listeners and truly listeners of the show. We also had a nice dinner

13:31 And then we had about nine or ten hours to go to Denver, so we decided to drive. We left around 730 p.m., drove to Hayes which is kind of halfway between Lawrence Kansas and Denver and stayed at a COA campground quick overnight which was actually our first no our second full-on night in the Sin Bin quite comfortable then we we booked it on up and we did okay Cody called to sin bin married yeah but still sinful things take place mm-hmm the one okay now we have another slight issue with the truck the first

14:27 First, have you calculated the cost of a tow from Boise Idaho towing the trailer back to Texas? So first of all I guess somewhere I picked up some bad gas so it's pinging a bit and doesn't want to start really well. Oh well you know we talked about this on the show before. It's the blend. The blends from place-to-place if your down in the gullies and go up in the mountains I think the valves are stuck or whatever so you need, you can't turn the wheel when the car is just idling. You have to rev up the engine a little bit.

15:14 Oh yeah, it's just an old power steering unit. I think the pump is... I wouldn't worry about that now because it's really not drivable if you need because with a trailer It's okay cuz you need power anyway But we got to change it so we're gonna try and do that So anyway We arrive here in Erie which is just about 10 minutes south of Boulder And were here staying with, hold on a second let me just get all my notes together. And by the way when you're buying gasoline on our trip like this don't go to any little cheap no offense to some I'm sure we have a few proprietors that own some of these little gas stations but generally speaking they always buy it's a second level grade that you get especially outside of California where by law they have to have detergents in the gasoline yeah and if there was a Russian-owned place

16:04 They won't. No offense to the Russians, but they tend to throw like used diesel fuel and stuff into the thing because it'll give a crap about it. Between Lawrence and Denver you're happy that you see any gas stations are like oh there's one finally I mean there's not a lot there's no like chains on the side of the road so we're here at the... Next Gas 187 miles yeah So, we're here. The Sin Bin is parked outside the home of Chad Christie and Gage Christian Lovely family Christie's a dental hygienist They have a 15-month old son Gage who loves dancing to all our jingles I have seen it firsthand He can't really speak yet but he'll be cutting Shut Up Slave Jingles soon No doubt about it And Chad who actually didn't come home until this morning 7 o'clock

17:01 because he's on overtime duty. He is a EMS paramedic and firefighter. Yeah, and so he calls home last night. And I felt so insignificant in his wife's talking to him is like yeah There's some some lady you know she she was basically dead no pulse No breathing I brought her back to life with CPR unlike I Thought our show was important with that we suck We don't do anything this guy's bringing people back the life But brought someone back from the dead at some point but you never know right? They have no proof of it and I learned a new term

17:42 EMS term because last night he had a call around I guess 3am someone suffering from excited delirium essentially bath salts. Oh! Excited Delirium When someone goes nuts and he says like five guys we had to pull down with five guys and shoot all kinds of stuff into him to get him to calm down excited delirium, i love it, i think that's great term and then uh... tonight we've got a meetup and then uh... on let me see well, were gonna be around the colorado area for a few days will do the sunday show from here as well but were going to colorado springs were going near aspens or just leave the box here and uh... we're gonna just drive around think we are staying with some other people there's a cabin whatever miss mickey keeps that all up too

18:40 up to spec. So that's where we're at and it really has been fantastic if you look at the web I don't know if maybe got a hold of Jay's account to look at Facebook John but we have that picture of your head on a stick Yeah, I can't get on Facebook. I'm not a member It's fantastic every it's like you know that there's the thing known as the World Wide Web yeah, which has just regular No agenda show site you could also just be thankful she's doing it at all no I am by just saying that you know maybe you should wean her off of the Facebook when I understand for example The and by the way you have the skills to do this

19:27 The Noah J. I because it would forwarded the information still says Hot Pockets Tour 2008 on her yeah, you can't change that if you change the title of the Facebook page then It breaks all your likes and your members apparently it becomes a new page. Oh, yes Thanks Facebook. Yeah Was gonna say I don't know Just learning a lot did you eat anything good? Had a night well if the in Lawrence, well besides the pupusa yeah which was great in Lawrence we had I Was a great got a great strip steak. They're really big on their beef at the place We were there There's a lot of good beef in the Midwest Yeah And by the way because of the drought watch the everyone's talking about it watch the beef prices plummet

20:22 Because the farmers have to call you they got a process their meat. Otherwise, the cattle will die Right so there's gonna be a lot of a lot of beef on the market overnight Yeah So yeah You know where it's it's been great and so that head-on-the-stick That's what I want to say It's kind of like have you ever seen the movie weekend at Bernie's? where they have the dead guy yeah and they waving his arms around yeah so that head your head on a stick is kind of like that you know you popping up in every picture, you're in the dune buggy. Yeah I'm glad you found some use for my head You're an every group shot... you're beautiful man! And we miss you We miss you on the road as everybody else but I said I always say this we miss you

21:07 You should take it upon yourself. Come meet us in Boise, man! Come to the Boise... Boise? I might go to Boise! You could drive to Boise No i couldn't It's not that far Oh yeah Okay Fly to Boise You gotta through Hells Half Acre Which whether or not you're ever gonna visit that and I'm sure from the direction your going but WOW Yeah Half acre my butt. What is hell's half acre? Hells half-acre which is endless miles and miles of lava flow with no life at all it's like being on the moon Is there gas station I don't think so

21:50 Anyway in the morning to you John C. Dvorak when the morning do you Adam curry in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground subs In the water and feet in the air And in the morning to all of our human resources in the chat room all lined up ready to go we see that your quickly depleting your nine point two million dollars in Lifetime value good to have here no agenda stream calm no agenda chat net despite The the travels I've been able to collect a lot of A lot of stuff, there's some interesting things happening. I came up short i think Really? No, im good man! I have a couple of...I finally got to the bottom of the badminton thing which was getting on my nerves Yeah so this is the uh now of course we know all professional sports are rigged and uh the olympics could be no different and you have done some digging on this

22:41 Well, a little bit. There's a couple things that happened in the background. People have been watching these idiotic Olympics. They missed out on the big scandal which is four or eight people to four pairs of doubles Asian players all got kicked out of the Olympics for trying to lose Gee gee and badminton such a an important actually you know I used to play that when I was in high school. They kind of It's hardcore it's a good game. Yeah, he's hard to lock it yours Dom It's like you know but you go play badminton against some of those what they're doing And you'll be lucky to score point and that's true

23:22 And so what happened was the and some guy from Belgium actually hinted at this. And then the only place I could find a good explanation for it, for people out there and we should probably put in the show notes is in Salon Magazine. The guy outlined exactly what the problem was. The problem boils down to this. The Chinese are the absolute best badminton people in the world period. Yeah why? Is that genetics? No, there's become a fad in the country since 1980 apparently became the because and there was a lot of rationales for some of its explained in the salon article when anyway The point is that the Chinese are so good That because Denmark won a match against somebody and screwed up. The way though thing was gonna finalize

24:06 the to play for a gold medal they did Chinese were gonna end up having to play again there are two teams we got to play against each other and that means one would wouldn't get well get a golden the other one would get like a bronze or something you wouldn't get this silver because of the way the tournament was set up so to avoid this structure one of the Chinese teams had to throw a match to get into a different group of people to Huh, the loot to like the losers round because they feel they're the best in the world and they should walk away with a gold And if the goal is to win the best medal you can win and it takes losing Then so be it.

25:01 So they decided, you know big what's going on? They decided to throw the game too. So you had this these two teams It's like it's like our politics that neither Democrats or Republicans want to win So they're trying to both and meanwhile did the real kicker here in this now that I still haven't gotten a ticket price But apparently these matches were you know sold out or sold there was enough tickets sold And somebody said they may be up to $300 you pay to watch a badminton game where these guys are just dumping it into the net on every shot so They started booing him. Yeah, yeah

25:39 Meanwhile, the Olympics guys say so people demanded their money back and it was a big mess. And so they threw him out of the tournament which in fact as the Belgian guy said this was the Olympics fault they're the ones who set it up like this and if you have to get a silver or gold-silver combination with two teams if you have to lose a match that's what you do right? So they shouldn't have been penalized This whole thing is just typical I mean the Japanese job the ukrainians and men's gymnastics to me anyway so you got a clip no i do I have the clip about the let's see what do I have bad man of scandal yeah that's just the background should've played before he act alright so we'll leave it out yeah justly hey why don't we uh... when we thank some producers before we move on because I think well we get short talking about getting shorted

26:30 By the Olympics, we got shorted too. We only have two producers Actually we have uh... Do you have some? Yeah I have an executive producer That would be actually the family Hold on a second here This is from our Lawrence meetup Eric and Lori Swim Um, $300. Eric and Lori Swim? Eric and Lori Swim, $300 they also uh... She writes in a lot Yes she does! She does in fact you're right And uh she made some wonderful what do you call those oven mitts for me? She made oven mitts for you? Yeah handmade They're beautiful

27:12 yeah and actually she has a card let me read the card for second oven okay to making out i'm wishing you all the best things in life but first you just have to weather this challenging road trip adam a woman who would take this kind of trip as a quasi honeymoon must be pure gold Take good care of her Mickey the pot holders are for those times you need your crackpot to just put a lid on it Hold on a second Thanks for all you do we love the show Eric and Lori swim beautiful card, and they are donating the $300 towards Eric's knighthood And they had their son there who was also he's kind of a crackpot actually I thought

27:58 Those more crackpot than buzzkill so they do check in as the only executive producer on today's show I believe yeah, then we have three associate executive producers Louis Louisville Kentucky we have answer Maven no comment John Johnson and he came in with $250 John Johnson jr. 222 22 in the morning heard you mention the show Rubicon a few times so I went looking for it. It isn't available anywhere Netflix, iTunes and Amazon does have it for stream now okay so if you go to Amazon you will find it and he wants some karma for his smoking hot fiance Candace You've got Karma

28:42 I do find it odd that they didn't put it on DVD but yeah, I was looking for it and I found it on Amazon. They have this streaming thing if you're an Amazon Prime member you get all this television stuff. Yeah a lot of it for free or including Rubicon is free. Lucas Teiema in Østgist Oestgeist. Oestgeist. Oest-Gheist. Oest-Geist! Lucas Theema. Lucas Theema. Seems to be a good moment to donate some extra money, keep up the good work. Please tell the slaves in the Netherlands that there's an option for more liberty for this September 12th elections in the Netherlands

29:33 the liberate rachi partage, the liberty party. Oh no it's the libertarii separatay which would be the libertarian. Oh is there a libertarian? Yeah, libertarii separatay. Do it say it, libertarii separatay. Libertarii separatar. Awesome! No awesome love it yeah and that's our executive producers yeah associate executive producer we came up a little short today unfortunately well it is of course July So I did come across something rather interesting.

30:45 And I actually have to prop Miss Mickey for catching it. I'd seen the news, followed it for two days and then she said you know there's something going on here and this is the power outage in India And this was pretty big, this power outage. Yes it was! 600 million people without power. Yeah and of course... By the way you got to think about this now of course not to jump what you're gonna say but there's a new TV show coming out about this. What's the TV show? This is JJ Abrams' new shows called Revolutions or something like that I can't remember somebody in the chatroom knows that. Oh and what is it about? The world gets shit... electricity in the world stops working

31:26 Excellent. Now I don't know how far you'd go to promote something like this, but if in terms you blow up the Indian power grid because you get a lot of publicity for the idea. But you gotta think about... Well there's a couple things There's a couple things. I just want people to think about You're in an elevator How bout on these trains man? We got people hanging off and it's... You're in a train Oh my goodness! You're in a subway It is dark and it stopped You're on the operating table Right, you're on the... Just as something you could mention. Well they did say that most small businesses and probably hospitals in this part of India are so used to brownouts and black outs that they all have generators Yeah but for us even if you have a generator or some other alternative power source The internet's not going to work That's gonna be down

32:19 Yes. Yeah, so this at least in that area So of course we have a problem with India and the problem is No one listens no one gives a crap about us there We have one producer I think right? One who's yeah, and I think he lives here. Yeah you'd make it even better guilted him into 500 rupees thinking cash which they still have which i think is four bucks So we really don't know a lot and we don't get a lot of feedback so I just read around as much as i could. And uh, got a report from Reuters and this is from the power secretary

33:00 who stated the following, of course people are saying oh you know this is a there the grid is no good and that there's not enough power and this is kind of what I latched on to initially but he says The hype that states are overdrawing is the reason for the collapse is NOT right. He says it's too early to say exactly what happened when the grid collapsed, the frequency was 50.2 hertz which is normal had states been overdrawing the frequency would have dropped well below that level so I'm like huh okay good point now Mickey said Ms. Mickey who is

33:35 been on the road with me too long clearly she says you know maybe this was some kind of test to see how people would react like okay maybe well I did find that on the exact same day the first near the full the first part of the outage came the Turkmenistan president took the TAPI pipeline roadshow on the road to promote this is a Turkmenistan, Afghanistan Pakistan India pipeline which is clearly needed in order for them to have the natural gas to create enough electricity for all of the slaves there. So I'm like okay that's kind of interesting you know this could be something to it

34:21 that uh... you know they think it was like hey do you want to be without power if you don't wanna hurry this along he gotta get pakistan more on board we got a bill this thing and we gotta drone all the people who are trying to stop progress as we go through or zero star in uh... in western pakistan but maybe possibly couldn't find too much else but then then i took a glare again atlanta to c-span and there was a huge debates going on in on the hill about the cyber bill, the cybersecurity bill. And I pulled a couple of clips now these clips are just by themselves are amazing but i'm gonna wind it up with Harry Reid who of course is the douche of all douches this is Mark Udall, I think he's from Colorado actually about the cyber bill and how we remember...we've read through a version of this

35:19 No one has seen the version they're actually debating on and I'll get to that in a second. First, Mark Udall on how important it is. It's as if we see the danger in front of us but yet we cannot find the courage to face it. But Congress can not afford to wait for a 9-11 sized attack in order to act. Now let me ask you a question, how can I mean is a cyberattack going to bring down buildings? Are planes going to fall out of the sky will people be jumping out of windows to their death and i mean is that how do I equate it as cyber 911 to a 911 size attacking this thing is doable

36:02 I'm just gonna explain it. Please! You know when those buildings came down? Yeah A lot of bank records disappeared Right Well, that was all that was apparently important And so the cyber attack would take out the bank records The same thing Oh yeah people die in the 9-11 thing but we're not talking about that The whole thing's about banks Okay okay I got it I got it I got it Makes sense Good one by the way Another track we gotta follow Waiting for a catastrophic act something that military and intelligence leaders in a bipartisan collection of national security experts are warning us against is the exact opposite of leadership, and the exact opposite what our constituents expect us to do here. Ooh okay so now this is very scary because it's 9-11 like and we're all gonna die! Then we get Grassley

36:57 And he starts to unfold some very interesting information about what I thought they were now discussing, this Cybersecurity Act of 2012 which we have read but we haven't read what they're actually talking about nor have they. The bill before us was introduced 13 days ago and it was only pending on the floor for 4 days before the motion for cloture was filed It didn't go through the normal committee process. Uh-huh. It wasn't debated or amended. Really? They said it was brought straight to the floor and we're being forced to consider under a very rushed schedule. Talking about the danger of cyber attacks for years isn't the same as discussing the impact of the actual text of the bill, which could become law

37:45 The words on the 212 pages of the bill are what must be analyzed and analyzed in detail by the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group. In fact, no one Except a handful of senators actually knows what the bill says or might say Of course that's a process. How do you like that? They don't know what it says? It's Senate Assistance to read these things and brief them on no, they hasn't even been released they've just been hiding it yeah accomplishes early strides to accomplish

38:22 We need full process and unfortunately that has not happened, and it doesn't look like it will happen. And why won't it happen? Because the majority leader has limited debate This week we were told that a group of senators and their staff were working on a compromise Again That's something all us as a body don't know much about We need open debate in order to process this As opposed to huddle backroom meetings. So huddled back room meetings, that's how it is all being done by the most transparent government in the universe exactly as you'd expect it to be paperwork that has been put in 13 days ago I haven't seen and its not available

39:08 It's all been secret, so I'm sure it's not what we've read previously but i will keep my eyes out for the new version of the bill. And then we get Harry Reid Mr Meme Fest who will of course re-invoke 9 11 and tell you why is so important to pass this legislation now! My perspective on this is about a 3 Keep in mind 1 is totally unprepared 10 is totally prepared Three is what he said. One of the country's top national security experts gave us three out of ten, a failing grade by any standard. He went on to say that type of cyber attacks could blackout the United States for weeks or months. Oh! A cyber attack that could blackout the United States for weeks and months? Your timing is uncanny. Up to 17 fold in the last three years

40:06 The nation's top security experts have said a cyber 9-11 is imminent. Imminent! I wish that I had known you'd had this because i would've dug up that old clip from two or three years ago where uh Feinstein was at the front of the congress and she had all these experts, she had Sorry head of national intelligence, head of naval intelligence, head of military everything. And is a cyber attack or another 9-11 attack imminent? Yeah I remember that clip. In the next six months! I remember that clip. I can look for it and they all said yes oh yeah absolutely definitely gonna happen any minute and how long ago was this there's a couple years ago two three years ago let me see if imminent maybe i just get lucky let me see if imminent pops up

40:57 No, I don't think i'm going to get lucky. Anyway let me continue with Reid because he really lays it out. They say frailties in our defenses against these attacks are most urgent they're a threat to our national security nothing is more important So is with this appointment. By the way, nothing is more important. Nothing's more important? This guy's such a douchebag! You know this bill is obviously covering up probably some more ways of spying on the public... Oh yeah oh yeah stay tuned Last night I filed cloture on legislation to reinforce our defenses What is cloture exactly that's a procedure I guess that uh That's a procedure to make it so you can't do a filibuster in the Senate floor It's a procedure to ram something through as what your saying Well you cant

41:40 Yeah, you can't do it with the way is structured right now. You he's done or what he's talking about glance against these malicious attackers Some are countries some organizations summer individuals new countries organizations and individuals John Security experts have been playing about the urgent need to act urgent need to say the question is not whether to act But whether we will act in time In time! Run for the exits. One need only look at the headlines in papers all over America today, all over the world today

42:19 As we speak, 600 million people in India are without electricity. Okay... good catch! Give him a douchebag will ya please? Oh absolutely! I'm telling you how about Stuxnet baby How about they say you know what we gotta pass this thing We got to ram it through fire up Stuxnet work on the SCADA controllers bring her down It's entirely possible he's got like another 30 seconds which is worth listening too Yes It's not believed there was any terrorism involved in that. However, I'm leaving that open-ended... It is believed it relates to the unusual weather based on... Unusual weather? No! That's not what the secretary said he didn't say anything of the kind in fact Probably many experts say on global warming Oh, I am sorry its global warming yes and let us just throw that in there why not really? They had such heat indeed which has put a tremendous burden on their fragile Its not fragile

43:19 Power system. This legislation that we're trying to finish here, Madam President has been worked on for years. Oh yeah sure...worked on for years. Bullcrap! So, I did show...I got one more clip here. This is the...actually this is a pretty good outfit By the way since we're talking about India, Jaycee and Buzzkill Jr. came in to tell us that at Buxtar, I think we have around 3 thousand active producers We have four that are Indian It's not one! Alright so it's 0.01%? That's great And we want to thank them profusely Yeah So there's this outfit The Center for Democracy and Technology

44:03 Which I think might actually be a 5013 C Corp that is good. I haven't been able to find anything nasty. What's the name of them again? It is the Center for Democracy and Technology, and they're working on some amendments to the cyber security bill. And it's not so much the amendments but he was on The Washington Journal which is that call-in show that our producers never call into in say in the morning but they should. Yeah, I don't understand why we can't get him to do that because... Because its a great show And he mentioned something that I didn't even know. For those of you using Gmail or Hotmail, you might want to listen to this little ditty. Well certainly privacy is challenged by infamous... So of course he's talking about the cyber security bill as he knows it where companies will be allowed to share your information with the government just in case you know you might have some kind of terrorist

44:56 But of course they will be indemnified from doing so, so you can't sue the company like Google or Yahoo! Or Microsoft for sharing your private information with the government. ...technology but the answer to that problem is not just throw up our hands but rather make sure that laws keep up with technology One of the amendments that the Senate may consider is one to update the Electronic Communications Privacy Act Right now, under that law if an email message is sitting in your inbox for more than 180 days it's available to the government with a subpoena. Most people don't know that they think that the government has to go to court and get an order and prove probable cause to a judge we're trying to update that statute Did you know that?

45:45 No, but I wish they'd go get my old AOL box which has got to be more than 180 days old and filled with so much spam. It would be great! So this is a perfect storm? The Vorac and AOL...I never use it by the way don't send me an email there but there is for you. So if its been in your inbox ie in your Googles in your Gmail. If people don't erase their inbox, they're encouraged to keep them on Google. Exactly! To keep it searchable and it's all indexed for the Feds convenience. Yeah boom! Let's see if there are any references here to the bombing? To the bombing? No I mean that's what you'd look up...bombing Bombing Bombing of what?

46:26 Nah, I don't just anything you'd look up bombing if i was a fed and got your email. But I would type in search the first thing I type it would be bomb How about fertilizer? Try fertilizer that's what probably do that probably have some fertilizer. Start at the top! Bombing assassination Are you searching... I go with the top searches then you go down you drill down even though you know they discovered this is I wrote a column about this apparently college students don't know how to use Google Oh The whole country is deteriorated in its ability to do a simple search. So I'm assuming the feds don't know how to do it either, they won't put bombing in there. Okay... Do you still have AOL floppy disks? Okay well this you'll think is silly although I have to say I'm not absolutely sure where the collection is but I made a collection of all of them once I could All the pretty colors? Over time because I figure at some point gotta go into the Smithsonian You are a hoarder aren't you

47:26 It's official. Borderline hoarder. It's bad! That's good though, man we need people like you. Archivist. I'm not a hoarder...I am an archivist! Yeah try that on Mimi. So there was uh... let me just stick on the hill for second because Douchebag Reed brought up the global warming Inhofe got up and he just said something that kind of tickled me when I heard him. I didn't know he was like this, well I guess I did but I didn't know he actually went up and said it.

48:05 talking about being somewhat critical of my position on global warming, which everybody knows I've been involved in for some 12 years since the Kyoto Treaty was never before us. Nonetheless, I appreciated the fact that we had a chance to resurrect that issue because to my knowledge nobody has uttered the term global warming since 2009. I love how he does this. Yeah, nice! It's been completely refuted in most areas but i'm pleased...I was pleased to hear my good friend from Vermont talking about it because he and I have a very honest relationship with each other but a total disagreement

48:47 And we were able to go over those things. And then again today, two things happened. First of all, we had the Senator, senior senator from Massachusetts came down to the floor and was somewhat quite critical of me and anyone who is a skeptic. It's important to realize that you understand so when we're talking referring to, those people who really believe that the world's coming to an end because of global warming and that is all due to man-made anthropogenic gases. We call those people alarmists. Those people like myself who has looked at it very carefully and have come to the conclusion that isn't happening. And now watch them wrap it up. And that the fact or the assertion

49:37 Global warming is occurring today and it's occurring because of the release of CO2 and anthropogenic gases, methane and such as that. That's not a... those people are, it is really a hoax. Which I said way back in 2003 and this became quite a charge to lot of people. A hoax that is the fact that all this happening due man made gases. I really believe its the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on American People. Hey Man! Hey Hey! The Science Is In! SCIENCE!!!

50:16 And meanwhile we've got another guy out there doing the rounds, Richard Muller who is a former climate denier, denouncer, denialist. He's flipped sides! Yeah I know this is big news... But but I caught him and figured out what this was all about okay he was on now I did not watch this but someone sent me the clip it was on The Rachel Maddow Show And she's just delighted, you know. Oh yeah! He flips sides and it is so obvious the guy is still a complete chill Given what you see in the correlation between carbon dioxide and temperatures do you think that

50:59 The level of reduction we'd have to have in carbon dioxide is so great, in order to affect temperature that it would have to be a global economic shock? Or would we be able to reduce carbon dioxide in the way you think could be economically sustainable but still really affect temperature. I think there are two key things that we can do One of them is a global effort towards energy efficiency and conservation. Right, that makes sense. We should do that anyway. It's realistic but the biggest thing is... Here it comes! This will be controversial The biggest thing is to switch away from coal into the one thing that can replace it. Oh let me guess! What?

51:40 What? Natural gas. In the poor countries which are going to produce most of the carbon dioxide, i.e., India, Pakistan, China... natural gas There you go! The guy's clearly a shill for the industry Yeah he's working for T-Bone Pickens Or still for the Koch brothers whatever One of them It doesn't matter These guys are just a buncha money grubbers That was a good one Not quite clip of the day worthy yet but... Hardly. No, so the one there was a study that was done I heard I didn't get a clip of it but I thought when asked twice about it do is that important? But NPR in the News Hour they had this because you mentioned poor countries apparently some huge report came out as a big deal they've spent tons of money to find out

52:33 Most of the people that live there are low-income and in rich neighborhoods. Most of the people that live there are higher above median income." Now this is a 17 million dollar report, an accompanying website they used to come up with this amazing information? Yeah it was stunning! And they gave it a whole block on the news hour discussing this and it was like wow yeah there's no diversity anymore. It is not about race anymore, it's about income disparity. Income! Yeah I love it. We've switched from so then to the meme is to get us together... There are two memes that have been noticing going around one is that one which is racism doesn't mean anything anymore you know hence Obama doesn't need the help of black people by the way which I think is the underlying reason for that because he has done nothing for the black community now

53:26 And the other meme I keep running into is that people shouldn't be going to college. No, they should be going to community colleges and trade school in fact i'll have a special long kind of a breakout of a rehearsed bit that was on the CBS morning show with Charlie Rose and some other people and it was promoting this idea yeah people should well trade school's gonna be the next thing but right now it's community colleges interesting and this of course you know educate foreign nationals in our big universities. Yeah because they got the money is that... They got the money and they also set up shop overseas through American worker, yeah. And they got cash, no loans just cash beautiful cash

54:08 Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. By the way, Bett, while you're on the topic of global warming I do have a clip. Okay. And i got this new normal clip which is at the bottom of the list and this was...I'm just watching this report about the drought and this idiot comes in here we go again. The soybean crop is rated very poor to poor 66% of the nation's hay fields are in drought so is 73 percent of the cattle land This could be the new normal in the United States. And so we need to plan ahead because we know and science tells us that under a changing climate, droughts will be more frequent and more intense across the United States. The NRDC says 60% of the states have no such plans. Yeah oh yeah. Oh yeah. By the way didn't hear this when Katrina hit? That the new normal was going to be these massive hurricanes wiping out our

55:00 just ruining these cities down by in the Gulf area. Yeah, it was a new normal so that to me the new normal is there's always a new normal well I'll tell you what the new normal is and this is more your neck of the woods and I've been reading reports about this for going on now this is the second week about the militarized cops in Anaheim which I think is also part of the new normal if you follow this story at all What's been going on? I followed a little bit of it, but you obviously have something. Yeah now i have...I have a clip so the way I understand that the cops tried to apprehend maybe stop and frisk a citizen of Anaheim California That is where Disneyland is! The happiest place on earth and so he ran away and they shot him in the back of the head and they killed him

55:51 And a lot of that and a lot of residents saw this happen They had they got it on their cell phones, and they're like hey. This is bullcrap You know you this is this is no It's not just police brutality its police killing and murder yeah murder so they staged a protest in the cops come out John except for the word police on their uniform? They're soldiers. They've got like just amazing hardware that they're and even in camos, like they are getting ready to go to Afghanistan I mean what you need camouflage on the streets of Anaheim here's the report chaos and violence in the streets of Anaheim

56:35 Anaheim police firing rubber bullets confront a crowd of terrified children, parents and angry residents near La Palma and Ocasio. Then one officer unleashes a snarling police dog which attacks the mother holding her child in this bystander. By the way this is video you've got to see in the show notes 430 dot NA show notes 431 dot NA show notes dot com It's rough man! This dog just jumps at... There's mom sitting on a lawn chair with their baby And this dog just like attacks They just started shooting and I was with my son, and the dog just came. This is the man that was on the floor? He wasn't up to all of these shots. Talk about what happened. They just released a dog and it had my baby in my stroller...

57:30 It all started around four o'clock this afternoon when police shot this man known in the community as Stomper. Police say he was one of three men who took off running when they approached him earlier in the afternoon. What exactly happened during the shooting we don't know, but we're still investigating that. But the shooting occurred and the Of course we don't know. But neighbors who saw the shooting say police overreacted, then they confronted the officers demanding answers that's when the pandemonium broke out.

58:15 And back live once again, you're looking west on La Palma. This is where police have just broken up a small protest where some citizens had set up a dumpster fire and even shut down the street Now out here there were dozens of people who had their cell phones and at least four different people told me that police officers offered to buy their video from them without any explanation Of course that's all part of this investigation as it continues develop out here in Anaheim So did you by now? Have you googled any pictures of these cops I'm sorry? Have you googled any pictures of these cops, the way they look? Oh yeah, no I've seen that. No, I saw that part. Yeah it's terrible! But is... what are we getting for? Martial law? Well I think we need a no-fly zone over Anaheim right now That's right President Obama should be calling for that an Anaheim no fly zone This is the police this is a police state and this is what you see You got me even surprised anybody to put up with this crap with the law I mean I've been too uh I forgot where it was in some town just casually there was at

59:16 there was a small local parade and the parade in the parade, there was a uh uh the SWAT team from this little town because they got it. They get all this federal money right and so that they're told to buy all this equipment so they might swat here tanks tanks and there's a little tank that went buying all these people in the town. They got their flags American flags and they're cheering because they're idiots yay just don't beanbag me bro It's really bad. I think that they're gearing up, on the last episode we heard that the feds are taking over police departments, they're telling them to get all this militarized gear... What are we waiting for? Is there something coming? This is like Kelly Kiesling Republican in Tennessee state legislature forwarded an email a crackpot email by the way

1:00:13 Which was, which we've heard for a long time. Unbelievable election rumor! The rumor in question states that Obama and the Department of Homeland Security are planning a quote series of events that may lead to martial law being imposed to delay the election Yeah. Which by the way we heard... They don't need to do that! We heard this with George W Bush as well, the same... Yeah they're gonna crown themselves king in another one year. But the Department of Homeland Security does have 400 million rounds of hollow point bullets that they ordered you know so that's not for target practice I want it over the internet So there's this thing called the Homeland Security Grant Program you find in the Wikipedia and it is part of, let see... It's called what is this called? Stone Garden Fund. And Anaheim got a big chunk of it so they built up this military. You put a military in your little town and what are you gonna get? Military action!

1:01:13 I mean it's like an invasion. Nah, it's not good. But meanwhile something that you alerted me to...I'm going to say two years ago on this very program sometimes known as The War on Mail comes to a head Dennis Kucinich crackpot Democrat comes out on the House floor and is PO'd. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 7 of the U.S. Constitution gives Congress the responsibility to establish and ensure operations of postal service Today August first 2012 234 years after their constitution was ratified

1:01:54 Congress is presiding over the disestablishment of the Postal Service. Today, a manufactured default created by congressional legislation is pushing the Postal Service to the brink. Today, the Postal Service will not make a payment that it should have never had to make in the first place – to pay for pre-funding 75 years' worth of retiree health benefits in 10 years. A manufactured default encouraged by banks and other interest groups. A move towards privatization of one of America's most vital services You know, the Congress has a responsibility to stand up. But here in the USA under Citizens United everything is up for auction including the Postal Service. Wake Up America! Universal Services on the line. Wake Up America and stand up for the Constitution 575 thousand postal service workers and our obligation as American people to see that the Postal Service is rescued from those who want it pushed into default

1:02:51 or privatize it for their own profit. I didn't, you're right. I get it now. That was good. Now that should telegraph me the punchline. Yeah that's right 75 years to get a pre-fund. This thing is a scam! I was thinking about this... You know thinking because of an earlier report that you just gave us on how they can just go look at Google Mail and whatever yeah you know them US Postal Service and we have a looking at a scam right now that the Bank of America is trying to pull on us who's we? Me and Mimi oh okay

1:03:35 But we'll report on that later, but after we make a fuss about it in this certain way. Okay? The point is is that the banks have been doing this they send you something by mail and then they make all these claims and then when they send You something by then I'll send you something by FedEx which would be illegal if they sent it by mail Oh because yeah Because you can't use that you can't tamper with the mail no It's not tampering its also wire fraud you can't Yes, yeah, yeah exactly fraudulent offers or phony deals on the US mail. Oh boy Yeah, that's okay that makes sense they're really gonna go all out now

1:04:13 Yeah, so let's get rid of the mail because it has all these barriers to scamming the public out of every last cent or dollar in their wallet. You can't scam them over the mail anymore... you never could but you can over FedEx because FedEx will deliver anything! So now one thing that is important to note here is that the Postal Service is actually in the Constitution right? This is a big deal Yeah, it is. That's the fly in the ointment Right! Because this is not like other countries where its constitutional... It's part of the law of the land that we have the U.S. Postal Service and that's

1:04:55 I guess so that your mail can't be tampered with, you can't commit wire fraud or mail fraud. Right and you have cheap communication which is private. And so now I'm sure Kucinich is saying privatize for their own benefit. Sure, I am sure that's true but at the same time it goes much further Yeah, it is another step toward a pure police state where you run by the banks. Everything you do I can't even send you a private letter that is just not looked at because everything now is open for the government snoops. Everyone will be snooping on everything. You might as well just give up when you close the post office down So I guess they defaulted on their payment They said fuck it we're not paying anymore

1:05:45 And like Christina said, it was a phony payment to begin with. They created a situation they made him pay 75 years in advance pre-funded retirement How do you do that? Yeah well You've been saying it for years. I've heard you talking about this on this very program Yes, I have and you give like the thing two or three shows ago. You mocked me for it I've never mocked you for it. I've never mocked you for it. I've always been in all your Horowitz some thank you I've always been an awe of your prowess And the fact that you just confuse me with horror which hurts

1:06:22 That's a sting. I don't know, i'm gonna have to listen to the last show that's a sting man. I can't believe you said that I'm sorry. I apologize by the way tell Horowitz curry was right Facebook It's gonna be a $17 stock. I was right. I said with seven your way off. I said 17 I know I'm saying seven seven not that now I think intrinsically it's worth seventeen What is it? No what did the math on this at 7 as well the sock is worth or what is it today? I don't know because i said within five months eight It's an 8. I don't know what it is, im not gonna look it up. It was so funny I listened to like a douche I listened to the before we left I listen to the The investor call you know I love investor calls that's at 20 right now and and Cheryl what's her name sign sideburgs Sidewinder

1:07:16 What's her name? The COO of Facebook. Oh, I don't know Cheryl Cheryl so at a certain point she congratulates Martha on her appointment as CEO of Yahoo! She says Martha not Melissa? She says Martha. I didn't have time to go back and get a record. Oh, that's a great one Yeah And we want to congratulate Martha on her position at Yahoo like really? My good buddy Martha The executive producer they remind people to go to devorek org slash an hey I'm all right org

1:08:01 slash and a we did not I apologize that was bad of me and now we will not do well so i am looking at NBC again good someone's got to have so they're opening up let me just do it little medley of clips okay there They're opening up in London. Brian Williams, there's a drought going on but he has to go to London obviously just to keep promoting this idiotic Olympics because NBC is just up their ears in this crap. Start off at the beginning so we get a feeling for what's going on and how big story not even in London but play Nightly News in London Tonight we thought that was him The over-the-top mayor of London gets stuck over the top of the crowd Nightly News from London begins now

1:08:47 Attention, real news coming your way. Slaves this is very important look at Boris Johnson's crotch. This is NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams reporting tonight from the Olympic Summer Games in London And good evening once again from this global gathering here in London where tonight just as quickly we turn our sights right back to the US specifically crippling and history-making drought were in the midst of. Why are they in London? Go back to the United States! So I was I was going to say, I love how everyone is routing around NBC setting up proxy servers and VPNs. Screw those guys! You created a bug by trying to... This is why I have so much faith in the open network that is the internet They just you know like oh we're gonna block everything no you're not bitches no way you can't do that it's not possible anymore anyway

1:09:42 So I'm watching this thing and to me, I'm thinking this is a news organization. And everybody else...and listen mostly now to Van Katz and Euro News. To polish up your French yeah. Yeah well so I can say it 25 different ways. This is a news organization. This clip is Brian Williams now safe to rejoin us he's talking about the Olympics He plays this silly game with the audience. for the top five nations here is where we stand going into tomorrow's competition as we wrap up tonight it's now safe to rejoin us and still ahead of week... It's now safe to rejoin us! It's not safe, was it dangerous? Yes. How is it now safe?! It's highly dangerous. Is it how does it now safe to read its now say if you look at the screen against come back stupid slave

1:10:59 While we're on that, if I can just interject a quick little clip about the Olympics. About the bogative-bogus nature of all this coverage This is from NPR This is the sound designer Now John and I are big audio guys And we love dissecting reports how audio is like for instance you hear this plane overhead right now I mean if i were to produce this program and make it sound like I'm being attacked by Japanese zeros, I would put that in and fake it. This actually is real. It could happen! But here's the sound designer for the Olympics he also did the 2008 Beijing Olympics

1:11:37 and about what you're hearing is fake. Let's hear one of the probably most challenging things that anybody could record this is rowing And rowing, I should mention to capture rowing by video you have to follow the crew from a helicopter. This is from the Atlanta games in 1996 this is what it sounded like. Okay as they say 1996 Atlanta you mostly hear a helicopter let's listen to Beijing rowing event from 2008 this is what it sounded like Okay, you actually hear the sounds of the oars in the water that rowing sound. How did you do that? I didn't learn as well and it was the only time i got a call from my boss Manolo Romero but he said all I hear is noise. I heard motor noise and he just said fix it so I took my portable dat recorder out to the lake and we phoned different boaters

1:12:39 basically, you know record the micro sound and then put it up into a sampler. Now that was the first time that had ever really been done and using samplers in rowing has become standard because of the fact rowing is covered by four or five chase boats and helicopter so... So you're not hearing the actual sound? It's the sound from some other game as another match and just sampling it, so you get the illusion that you're actually watching this great coverage. Yeah! And what's funny is this report is the crappiest sound ever. It's pretty bad That's what got me There are a couple of things here I mean when your in the studio and sometimes you get to go into a voice room or something to do some voice over they'll often catch...they'll capture ambience yeah wild sounds

1:13:33 Yeah, whatever you want. It depends on your producer what they like calling it Whatever the case is they'll do that and then they put that in and that's phony baloney but to me this whole thing is like people make a huge fuss and if People saw our newsletter notice that we have the Photoshop version of a picture with the background of you know They've moved its a dwag the dog perfect example that we know has been going on in Syria and it's in there. It didn't get a lot of play in the American press, but it seems to me that there is no difference between these phony sounds of the rowing which they really don't have the actual sound

1:14:13 and photoshopping a picture no it's just the difference it's all part of programming the slaves my friend course is no difference actually I have a I don't want to maybe you play this ender show clip this is Dutch journalist who um... well actually its own Anderson Cooper I should play this because here's a I think I don't know personally but here's probably a dutch journalist who was unwilling unwittingly been co-opted into a setup and if you listen to the beginning of the report now what happened is he snuck across the border, wanted to get into Syria. He was then immediately taken hostage by what he calls jihadists but the whole report is meant

1:14:57 to for him to say all yeah al-qaeda is in uh... in syria that's what this is foreign anderson cooper finally gets in there but he starts off by by blowing the whistle on what actually happening who these rebels are in syria here or into the country bias smugglers rain we were fine well after being a it's fair for now kind of uh... where i had a good to do it yet is that movements were camping at the at the very border so that people who are smuggling you into heavily edited by the way this is syria accidentally brought you to this camp of jihadists who were the jihadist with his use your hottest as you have a true and israelis still where they actually any serious did a majority of them or wherever for my life from there were some africa from pakistan on monday ash and

1:15:51 Some guys from the UK. Did you instantly know you were in the... Some guys from the UK? That's probably Pakistanis No, I'm thinking it's special forces you think is mi Special special forces special forces now. I'm gonna fast-forward because the pooper just goes on and on and on He's trying to get the guy to the point yeah gets shot at he tries to escape And a white pooper this is if you got a guy like this You'd be developing what he has to say into some sort of scandal but poopers can't do that in CNN well here we go Where were you shot I was shot in the thigh and John was shot in his arm.

1:16:34 Miraculously, only in the spine. Only in your arm because I mean they must have been shooting at least 20-30 bullets So clearly the guy was not meant to die so you know they just shot him and winged him a little bit Every single one of us You could have easily been killed? Easily At that point we thought we would be killed yeah definitely Were they Al Qaeda? We actually discussed it with them and said like well what section are you guys I can't say too much about it, but we're not going to... although we know they are down the road. They said that Al-Qaeda is down the road? Al-Qaeda's down the road! Al-Qaeda is down the road John! Time to go in and get some weaponry and now that we know that the president has been providing covert support for the Saudis and Qatar this great nation of Qatar

1:17:23 The great important large nation of Qatar who, of course are actually in there and causing the ruckus. Our third story out front breaking news CNN has learned that President Obama is authorizing covert American support for the rebels in Syria Aha! This comes as at least 170 people were killed on the streets today according to an opposition group. It's important to always add that caveat, CNN police lobotomy because we don't have any actual news just reading whatever the Pentagon tells us tonight she broke that news and police what kind of support has the president authorized Well, Aaron we understand what it's called is a covert finding an intelligence finding which basically allows the CIA and other US intelligence agencies to provide support for the rebels. We have to be careful to note this is not military assistance in the traditional sense of... The CIA is providing sandwiches

1:18:14 Hey boys, here's some sandwiches and some band-aids for you. Would you like us to cut the crust off? The US is not ready to arm the rebels leaving that to allies like Saudi Arabia and Qatar but what it means is that the U.S can provide clandestine assistance intelligence And as you see we understand this could have been in place for several months already and we understand that the US has been helping Saudi Arabia and Qatar vet some of these groups because one of the complaints is that the U.S doesn't know who it would be arming so they're trying to find how to get the weapons into the right hand, so this thing is a mess I mean, we've got the administration doing stuff. We've got everyone running around... It's a mess! I don't think Lucifer or Clippity-Clop Clinton is on board with what the Obama Administration is doing. Everyone's just there to make sure the oil companies benefit and gas companies. The whole thing is a mess!

1:19:07 But it's a total mess. It's coming down Bahrain is hell-breaking loose and nobody's even covering it New York Times did pick it up though, and they ran into one of the papers this week Oh, yeah pays five no Of course I gotta do something you know to remain the New York Times They got at least make an effort so I was kind of fascinated by the mat The murder that took place when the rebels grabbed the family of people and then executed them Yeah Yeah, this just happened. This is a huge deal that if you want to get the background on it play Human watch guy on war crimes martyr and with the martyr quote which is good Okay The rest of the pictures are too shocking to show but they include a pile of apparent lies it's too shocking to show

1:19:54 Just gory. elements of the armed opposition which have all gone by the name of FSA, have certainly been committing some abuses over the last few months. We've documented that but there seem to be many different groups involved we've also of course documented many extensive abuses by the government and its forces for over a year now." In a separate video this local commander of the opposition Free Syrian Army appears to give his version events

1:20:40 Our forces were passing through here as the Shabiha were in this place and then they started to fire on us which led to the martyrdom of 15 of our men. And later in this video, the commander seems to confirm that prisoners they took were killed. So they took and butchered a bunch of guys, and of course this kind of screws up everything because it was really bloody. And there was a bunch of videos of it, of course none confirmed but they look pretty typical Meanwhile the France TV station had this little thing that nobody else had I haven't been able to find too much about it But it kinda explained it The clip is called The Barry Clan Titbit Oh yeah, right at the top Yeah, yeah, yeah...I got it

1:21:29 Was she reporting through the shortwave radio? Guess what it sounds like the berry so uh the berry So this plan is what does this Berry come blueberry plan the redberry the blackberries? I don't know you may have been saying fairy for as long. I can tell whatever the case nobody else talks about it and there I mean even the news hours has some other name for the group that was killed murdered butchered by them by the Assad Syrian army, oh the free. I'm sorry free FSA I'm confused

1:22:18 So anyway, so these the good guys are the bad guys but there's two things I noted one was the they killed a guy from The Barry clan who is the head of the clan because he just joined the the Assad army Yeah, so my understanding is everyone's bailing out at that site. Oh well So so I guess we're not getting good coverage on that and then the one the other one that got me was in That previous clip where the guys Just a side we're on by the way, the guy doesn't say that his men were killed. He says his men were martyred. Oh yes subtle subtle. It's when you used to when you're working with guys who say oh yes they martyred three of my men You're dealing with some some hardcore Islamists

1:23:04 you know this is the side we're on and this whole thing and it with the Saudis who are a bunch of you know to you know two-faced group if there ever was in terms of at least the way they handle the religious extremists. They pay for all the religious mosques around the world that are all extremist, all Salafist even though they themselves in the royal family or not but they know it's a good way by creating this problem and we're on their side. We are on their side, yeah wow! This is what got us into trouble with Afghanistan the first time when we were on the side of the Mujahideen. The Muhajidin and we outfitted the Bin Ladens of the world with weapons I mean

1:23:52 I don't know, to me it's beyond baffling because i know that we have American interests here and there but this seems like just corruption to me on the part of the American government. Well kind of along those lines Hillary Clinton...I should probably play her jingle while were at it since It's always fun to make fun of her. Here we go. The message is clear. So she got a message as clear in this following clip, but she was at the religious rights and freedom presentation

1:24:32 And there was a question and answer session afterwards, and of course we had Shil stand up from a new lobbying organization as she identified herself. And asked the very poignant questions... Fellow Arab countries where this is not a problem Frankly and then just a quick follow-up question. I appreciate your emphasis on America But we also have our problems here with respect to of course Islamophobia, which is very aware And I'm wondering whether you have any comments about this recent activity in Congress targeting one of your own aids Okay so first all we have the Islamophobia meme Which is a loaded term

1:25:14 Yes, he dropped that bomb. Yeah well of course this woman's a shill so what will Lucifer answer we get a blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah edit I love this country! I want to be a part of this country! I wanna help build this country! I just hope i'm gonna be able too now she still blablying So it's at this point that leadership is incredibly important Leaders have to be active in stepping in and sending messages about protecting the diversity within their countries. And frankly, I don't see enough of that and...I want to see more of it. Notice she's starting to get emotional because he is talking about her girlfriend Huma Abedin We did some of that in our own country

1:26:09 Republicans stepping up and standing up against the kind of assaults that really have no place in our politics. So very interesting how she words this because she's basically saying Republicans standing up against their own party but really it was against the Intelligence Committee who had just asked a couple questions about Homa Abedin, if that is correct pronunciation and of course this is about her girlfriend you know we know they are lovers and uh... then you know that the whole anthony wiener wedding has been a sham so of course she could only wrap it up by saying the following words have two words for you predator drones hello was that there wasn't her not really

1:27:04 Really this was just like a long I the long shaggy dog story, and this is like that with the fail hold on a second I have a little fail Well something you could have worked I thought you had something that she said that was worth listening to. No, she said absolutely nothing! That was the whole point? Apparently yeah. She said absolutely nothing. And by the way talk about protecting diversity does that include the Anaheim police gunning down Latinos in their own neighborhoods? Sickening dogs on them? Of course not of course not

1:27:43 Oh no, it has to do with overseas or something. We don't know and maybe Bahrain they're protecting diversity there? Seems unlikely No no no It's only where we have the right interests I thought it was... There were a couple of reports I wanted to go back to The Joker since I'm in Colorado Oh yeah, you should be getting some interesting... The movie Massacre. So a couple things happened First of all we have I mean the way the reporting is going on this guy He's not the Joker anymore No no and I wonder if this is you know Of course We have we know the new TV series is on its way so what perfect opportunity to bring in the Hannibal Lecter meme

1:28:31 This is the monster's lair, your first look at the apartment of the suspect in The Batman Movie Massacre. Meanwhile he reportedly has become so difficult to deal with that jail guards are forcing him to wear a creepy contraption James Holmes has been spitting at prison guards so much he's being forced to wear a special protective mask like this. Like Hannibal, they actually have a picture of Hannibal Lecter in the box while she is introing this story The mask is simple and lightweight but it forms an effective barrier preventing inmates from spitting on guard It goes over their head like so And blindfolds the inmate and also disorients them They're black bagging the guy!

1:29:12 It's tied firmly on the back of their neck and because the inmates hands are handcuffed behind him He can't take it off. Here it is in action used by police subduing a prisoner in court during an insanity hearing It's a grim reminder of the mask worn by Hannibal Lecter in The Silence Of The Lambs There we go everybody, We have Hannibal Lecter in the new TV series coming very soon So of course we got that one in but its great to demonize this as really funny But then of course the media is being completely blacked out, where he's blacking out everything. Listen to this. In just about two hours accused gunman James Holmes will be back in court but there will be no pictures of him this time Judge William Sylvester put the hammer down No cameras capturing the shooter in court, no cell phones laptops iPads or audio tapes allowed either All to make sure Holmes gets a fair trial

1:30:04 court fair trial but she actually says it's like black is white yeses no this affair trial and nobody gets to see it closed dude better than that we would do he won't even do a perp walk jim spelman live outside the courthouse in centennial colorado where prosecutors are about to lay out their case against them against homes rather good morning jim Good morning Carol, yeah in just over two hours Holmes will make his way from the jail right here through an underground tunnel into the courthouse to hear what's bound to be a long list of charges against him. Are they for real? Underground tunnel no iPods iPhones videos recorders nothing You want to know what I think please he's dead already Yeah possible so now they gotta come up with it gotta come up with it They gotta come up with the goods

1:30:56 So they gotta come up with something so they're not gonna show him because he's dead. And what they do have somebody actually sees it, there'll be some guy in a mask and you know some stooge. Oh John that's perfect! Of course they will have the mask on his head. So it could just be anyone It's just central casting Oh wow, oh well you nailed that. He's dead and they're either gonna have to set him up to hang himself somehow... With the mask on his head? Somethings gonna happen. Oh very good Well then they take his real dead body put a mask on it and boom he's decremated within two days Awesome Very good Cremation that would be my other prediction Good one

1:31:33 Meanwhile, of course this is uh... This is just 20 seconds of just craziness. Another panic in a movie theater. This one happened at South Beach in Miami. More than 100 people bolted out of the late night screening of The Dark Knight Rises after they said they saw a man wearing back gloves and black glove screaming, this is it from the back of a crowded theatre. Look at his mugshot! Oh my goodness. Some movie goers tackled and heckled 44 year old David Escamillo, they tackled him down until police arrived. Escamillo was charged with disorderly conduct. Police say there was no evidence of any gunshots No one was hurt during this mad but obviously very scary rush Wow! Get more money for Dark Knight Rises. He put on black gloves and yelled This is it

1:32:26 Really? Maybe he's looking forward to seeing the movie. Yeah, Michael Jackson fan thought it was in the wrong movie... This is It! Where is the This Is It movie?! I got my gloves!! Yeah well there you go welcome to Gitmo Nation everybody don't fall for this is why we are known as The Greatest Podcast In The Universe Citizens do not be alarmed Do not be alarmed Please do not be alarmed My goodness What else you got? I got a long piece on Feinstein. Feinstein very rarely does speaking and she gave us talking, we have some more stuff for Sunday but this was her discussion, apparently one of her buddies on the World Affairs Council

1:33:20 got her to give a talk and then do a Q&A which is extremely dangerous. And dangerous because she's not used to it, and so she says a few things that are kind of interesting I'd rather do that right after the break for the donors. But I have a second half for the show clip Oh is it a good one? Okay let's do this first of all lets start off with Feinstein play Feinstein on leaks And some of the leaks we've seen recently that have created such a stir do have, I think, some fingerprints on them from...that are not from the Central Intelligence Agency or DNI or the Defense Department. How do you discipline that? I am aware of that. I think that's a correct analysis. I think the White House has to understand

1:34:22 that some of this is coming from its ranks. I don't know specifically where, but there...I think they have to begin to understand that and do something about it and um.. I mean there's one book yet they can read and they'll see it very clearly And I think that should be the case. Um... Now clearly a plant this guy She's well, it's hard to say where he's coming from but she doesn't want to say anything It seems well. She was kind of what we're talking about We talked about this on the show about a month ago Yeah And these are the leaks that the White House you said that that Obama's got a kill list and he laughs it up when he's in his

1:35:08 you know, he's got his own list that he checks off the boxes though this is good thing and that we put Stuxnet out there all these different kinds of things. And she keeps referring to a book and the books she's referring to is Sanger's book Confront & Conceal which it very interesting I sent you something has to go in the show notes which is Peter Bergen June 21st article on CNN and this is called the Obama leak scandal is wildly overblown. Okay now Bergen is a stooge and a member of the what's the name of this Muslim American Muslim Brotherhood, the new America Foundation. Okay sounds like a fine organization oh well this organization you look into

1:35:59 this thing from from Craig Newmark to Eric Schmidt. Okay got it now as frontman Bergen's a member and it's like this, its kind of very strange operation I think actually did some research on these go ahead you start looking at up and you'll see what you remember your research yeah So Bergen is like a apparently work you know CNN which you call the compromise network along with ABC I would put CBS in that too. doing this. This is like a hit piece on people bitching about the leaks but when you start listening to Feinstein and just casually talking these, these leaks in this book were no small potatoes situation this was a problem apparently some people got killed in the process we can still go onto by... In the process of leaking this stuff? Play Feinsteins third clip play Feinstein on leaks two I think

1:37:01 You know, what the President actually knows about this is difficult because with respect to intelligence he is in a bubble. He has his daily brief called the PDB, the president's daily brief early every morning and so he gets a briefing of intelligence I don't believe for a moment that he goes out and talks about it. I don't believe the briefer go out and talk about it but Who knows who else? And I think that the importance of this has to be really set by the president himself and hopefully he will do it. And I think you'll most likely read the book and see it himself. Have you had a chance talk about this? No. Barack in a bubble! Okay, so starts to get interesting now that is the last part of this clip which is the part 3. She makes very clear that these leaks

1:38:05 kind of a big deal for while and the Republicans were bitching about it. We heard a lot of bitchin' and moaning, and then the whole thing was covered up by a series of articles including this Bergen piece about oh its no big deal you know back off nothing to see here look over there kinda things which kind of took it out of the news cycle as you recall. Yeah and it was only because I watched this incredibly three-hour long thing with her at the world because I know she had to, you know cuz I know she doesn't do this much so she had to drop a couple of little tidbits in here only when I listened to Feinstein moan about then all the news media outlets want us to believe, and she summarizes it I think pretty well here in part three. Because you cannot if i'm right compel testimony from members of his staff nor is there any legal recourse because as you say the president ultimately has control over classified information and so if members of his staff are declassifying it its generally not a legal issue

1:39:10 Well, that's right. And the president can declassify it like that and one of the things we do in our bill is ask for simultaneous notice that we will know if an issue is declassified and we will know why. Right now we don't know so that has its difficulties Let me go to the audience questions now and one of them is on this very topic so it's a good place to start. Can you be more specific about the danger of leaks? Who is at danger? Well, I tried to be specific. People who help us are in danger

1:39:51 We're collecting information. We collect it in two ways, one is SIGINT or satellite intelligence and the other is human or humant and the human intelligence comes from people and therefore those people who are what are called assets for intelligence officers are in danger And I can tell you without any doubt that with the recent leaks they've been jeopardized. This is really interesting in light of what we know, that Obama essentially or the Democratic Party whoever was running Obama as president had one of her friends killed in California she hates him yeah

1:40:45 Yeah, and she's trying to get this back into the public domain. This problem yeah And she said she makes an interesting point They're trying to pass a bill that if they start declassifying stuff at the presidential level They have to at least inform the Intelligence Committee let him know because it because I've got to Classified document in front of me in the next day, and I'm reading about in The New York Times I say what what happened? Yeah Why am I looking at says classified and now it's in The New York Times, and they saw no So it's just like this is because this is a big bigger deal than it appears to be no This is good, and you watch three hours of this crap And this is what you found that's good. I find another thing too Which I'll play on Sunday which is uh? I'll just tell you what it is But did you have to hear the topic changes of course cuz she's busy there and she seems to enjoy It a little bit which is not good now cuz she said ahead of the intelligence committee She shouldn't even talking anybody seems to me but unless you know except her constituents any

1:41:42 and she goes on the Syria thing, and she drops the playbook right on the table. Oh oh save that for Sunday, save it for Sunday We'll go into break here with LZ Granderson Now remember this is the douche knuckle who works at ESPN he's a CNN contributor And of course he's the perfect guy because you know he's black He's got dreadlocks You know he's like the hip African-American prototype if you will And he's arguing about how Obama is so important and he's so good. This is really what you would call the liberal view on the president's use of drones and killing people, and how this is being explained away.

1:42:30 Here's one of the points, and that is basically President Obama has said he would not support an Israeli strike against Tehran. He says he will not support that. He asked Israel to stand down a lot of people didn't think that was the correct thing to do because it is their national security but then when Mitt Romney's foreign policy advisor suggested in fact he would back an Israeli strike against Tehran, Mitt Romney then Mitt Romney sort of backed away from that so what are we really talking about here? Are these just words? We're talking about no one wants a war. And I think that's the responsible thing to do is continue to push toward peace. I don't think you can call a president who has a kill list as someone who looks away when it comes to foreign policy, when it comes to national security, when it comes to foreign relations and foreign policy. I don't think that's a fair assessment. Now you might not be happy with exactly the measure he's taken but to say that he's looking away and ignoring Iran I think is highly inaccurate way of characterizing how he handled this

1:43:24 No one wants a war and no one can afford a war, which is another part of the conversation that we're not having. We can't afford to fight and so we're hoping that sanctions and diplomacy would be first. And what we don't need as I said earlier is someone who are saying words that would incite a war." So if I understand properly because the president has a kill list...and you may not like that but because he has a kill list he's keeping the peace? It was in there yeah I'd say that it's not off-the-track That's outrageous. He's got a kill list... That's just- This proves he is a good guy! I'm gonna show my sublord by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab He's got a kill list! Got a kill list Didn't mean to cut you off there Gotta kill this He's gotta kill this And he's gonna use it He's big bad, nationwide, barrage Uhh

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1:50:39 Since you are keeping the kill list up to date by the way somebody came up with an idea To that we should put together a no-kill list and put it up on our website, but they've been done I've already seen that done so I was like yeah We think it should be the know agenda one ours is more official. No this is true because we are the best podcasting. Yes, okay I'll put it together. I'll put it together. It will be the don't kill list. We have the kill list, killlist.curry.com we're going to put together the Don't Kill List and I guess you'll have to put a donation in to get on the list. Yeah why not? Please pardon my indulgence to grab the forward www dot oh bomber dot com to killlist curry dot com that's www dot o dash bomber

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1:57:42 John so that we're good you actually have crackpot material. It's well, let's see you can call it crack pot material I happen to believe it's Already I have this is extremely important Is that anything different than you believe do you know? Oh, I do but I do believe Do you happen to know where Wilbur Washington is we don't Wilbur. Wilbur Washington I figure that's up near your Camp Buzzkill somewhere around there but when are you scheduled to go up? Maybe, maybe me... I'll be gone probably a couple weeks. Maybe Nene can go and investigate something for me okay let me look hold on a second before we get too carried away here by the way there is no Wilbur Washington anywhere with that i know of in the area it's farmland John its farmland Wilbur Washington

1:58:34 Will-bur. You mean Will-bur? Will-bur Washington! Some open houses for sale, let's see what they sell... Pfft, who cares?! Are you ready for the report from Wilber Washington? Okay hit it. This week a neighbor called telling Greg about the crop circles in the land that they farm near Highway 174 The guy would say its the third instance of crop circles in the Wilber area In the past five years I guess its our turn Some think it is wind damage or kids trying to pull a prank The gods think otherwise. I can't really rule out aliens, but you have to wonder in the back of your mind You know, I'll leave that up to whoever's imagination when we walked up to the circles We saw that everything is very precise each straw smashed to this side in a unified angle you got to see this video by the way because it is the way that the

1:59:22 The crops have been flattened down. It's beyond what I think a human would do with the microwave oven." We did find a long strand of toilet paper that looked fresh... Yeah, of course somebody had to take a dump while they were doing it! ...on play sport and the sign of a prankster but still... They just throw that in there for you! Conclusive evidence There are many theories on that. They come and make these crop circles, and then just because they know I'm gonna catch on to it. They're like... put some toilet paper there for Dvorak! How it happened an who did it? But perhaps Cindy Gibbs is the most interesting involving aliens When they fly over all of the houses they just put everybody to sleep Yep Oh that's how they do it There are many reasons why you may not believe that these are actual crop circles from aliens but the Gibbs say if this is a hoax sure is a long way to walk

2:00:24 Just a poor prank. That's my point exactly as you just pointed out it way up there why would they do that? Why would they do that because this is just another warning from them So the thing is about this particular report these crop circles are in an area where they have those crazy agricultural things that make a round patch. They're all over the country, fireworks and... This is beautiful symmetrical intricate design I'm looking at it It looks nice. It's a pretty crop circle That's not... Small John Deere Some kids who had to poop I'm sorry this makes no sense that this is oh yeah we put all this effort in up there in Wilbur Washington No John

2:01:13 These are warning signs and you should heed them. Warning sign? Warning for what?! For the apocalypse, September 21st. September 21st is the last day? What is it? Put in the Red Book! No, it's a new date...September 21st When did this happen? Well when I was researching The Crop Circle September 21st, that's the date. That's a new date. The new... What is this new day? Tell us about this because we have to have a celebratory show. What is it? First check and see if its a show date then let's see if were before or after the show date just so you know

2:01:51 I'll tell you almost like and i have it September 21st. It's a Friday so we can have that we do the 20th, we have our last show the last no agenda show. That's right it will be the last show ever. September 20th Last Show thats all you need to put in the book and if on September 21st there is no show well then there won't be a show on the 21st no matter what. Oh right I'm sorry you mean on Sunday? On the 23rd, 24th. Right and the 24th so our last official show will be September 20th of September unless

2:02:30 This this scam falls through right and the world doesn't end. That's right We'll see how many people are buying into this one because I think a lot of people are buying you know that what's the one that supposed to the Mayan calendar says December 21st, but it's been moved up to September who moved it up The aliens with the crop circle People who know how to read the crop circles are reading September 21st Yeah People know how to read the cross so they Mayans came back down in a spaceship nothing to do with me. We adjusted their calendar No, I think what we're talking about here is the big United States blackout The big power outage is September 21st This is what they're reading into this crop circle So there will be no show because we'll have no power instead of doing your crops or can't they just send them memo? a tweet

2:03:27 A tweet? Get a tweet account. I mean Sweden has it. Can't we do crop tweets, they should do crop tweets that would be better Your world will end September 21st newly decided... I do love the fact that on uh where that the Why would they move it up after all these millennia no hold on this is not Millennium Millennia thousands of years have gone by say you know I think we should move this up three months I'm a little tired of waiting They had a scheduling conflict The plumber comes at 11. The Russians will like that one. This is not the end of the world, this is the big blackout which it's gonna be close enough September 21st so last show with power will be September 20th So we need some hamsters and a generator Yeah and shortwave radios Well I got my license! I know well I have two months

2:04:23 So here's some bogative stuff that has been coming out. Very funny, so of course we have to Get the slaves into believing that You know there's all this space stuff and of course you know the space stuff that we're being shown is nothing at all like the real deal So, of course We have all these reports now hey The US flags are still on the moon with it still on them Oh, you know why because we said they are and you know what else slaves if you're on Times Square? On August 6th. You can see the Mars mission landing live on Mars

2:05:04 Just don't look at the already existing bases and the elevators. So there's going to be a big psychological operation on everybody, oh we finally landed on Mars and they're just gearing you up with this that flags are still there. We've landed on Mars before! Yeah but now they're gonna broadcast it live from Burbank Why? To get you to so you don't look at what's really happening on Mars and on the moon. What's happening there? The moon bases and the Mars bases, please come on man! How many times... You're not even doing that, you used actually believe this but I can't, there is a note of insincerity in your voice No not all There is no insincere but it's impossible to get into because immediately go... For good reason

2:05:52 You, okay. We'll see on September 21st mister Okay I'm putting it in the book that nothing will come of it okay good good go ahead so easy way to rack up the score mm-hmm second playing against a Chinese badminton team I did catch something very interesting on the State Department news briefing Which I love because there's actual questions from actual reporters being opposed there. Right, they never get reported on this show! So Newland, Douchebag Newland

2:06:41 is, now this is about the war on ammo. So in case you missed it there was a big meeting on last Friday I believe and at the United Nations in New York about the small arms treaty agreement and although you may be led to believe otherwise there was no agreement It didn't happen and they're going have to come back to it because we didn't quite get what we want Now, exactly what we want is in question and this reporter who is not Matt the reporter known as not matt uh... zeros in immediately and says ok this is about the second amendment and um... just tell me when you're when your we've heard enough of it was rather long but it's a i found that just to be fascinating how he keeps beating on about this and newland keeps avoiding the question ten fourteen p m on friday department without being

2:07:43 inability to reach consensus on the arms control, on the Arms Trade Treaty excuse me and you said in the note that you supported the outcome which of course was a failure to reach consensus. I love that by the way so he slams her right off the bat So you support the outcome but there was no consensus what's that all about? And of course she has got to come back and slam him did you not get, did the United States not get out of this negotiation that it wanted? Well again apologies for making me work at 1014 on a Friday night.

2:08:23 If you may know the negotiations... Singer! Sorry had to work, mofo. ...on this treaty went relatively late in New York so we wanted to make sure that we spoke to them when the negotiations concluded what was a decision to give this more time to get it right. To get it right, John? I wonder what's the... So it failed to get the necessary votes and so we're happy with that because... Well no! No hold on This is not before the General Assembly

2:09:01 This comes up later in this little... No, no. This is just a private-ass committee! No, this is a treaty that needs to be adopted by consensus There was not consensus in New York there were a number of countries who thought that more work needed to be done Because we got to take away Americans' guns you see That said, we did make considerable progress and there was a commitment that the nations will come back early in the new year and try to conclude this treaty. What we want is further review, further refinement in order to meet the high standards of a treaty that we could... The high standards? Get ready for it! Now this guy's already he's already ready with his question. ...and that we were confident could receive the advice and consent of the US Senate

2:09:51 uh... deals with the illegal use of small arms. It's now the illegal use of small arms, John this has changed somewhat from the illegal transfer of small arms to nations that have terrorists and gangs now it is the illegal use so things are changing in this proposed text that we read while allowing states and nations participating to implement their own national laws the rights of their citizens enshrined in their own national documents, including in our case the right to bear arms under the U.S. Constitution so more work needs to be done but we very much support the goals and rather than trying

2:10:33 jam a weak treaty, it's better to give it some more time and have consensus when we come back. We don't want a weak treaty no because what they're going to do is they're gonna have all these regulations about who can actually execute their Second Amendment right that's what's going on. And why do you oppose it going to the General Assembly? Well again, we don't have consensus on the text. So you would be sending to the General Assembly...to the GA a text that is disputed on a treaty that we all agreed would be adopted by consensus so we think it'll be a stronger document if we keep working on it and try to get consensus But is your concern that the GA could approve a treaty or could approve a document by two-thirds majority and therefore any concerns, residual concerns of United States might have

2:11:23 uh... might not be addressed as long as you get two-thirds of the countries involved to vote for it. So, the way I'm hearing this in a black is white yes is no truth is false Is they want to get into appoint where they can sneak in whatever language is necessary then ram it straight into the GAA as she calls it the GAA so with 2 thirds of a vote gets passed more? Yeah, I keep playing. There's something in here... We don't think the work of this body is finished so why would we rush it to a vote in the GA and particularly given the fact that a number of large countries ourselves included aren't ready to join onto the table? Last one for me on this if I may. Did US domestic politics and notably

2:12:15 uh... second amendment right to bear arms under the u.s. constitution did domestic political calculation anyway effect your negotiating stance and your unwillingness to accept the current draft so she's getting a little testy now because he's pushing his is gonna lash out not yet but in a second well that's not a political issue that constitutional legal issues united states it's a matter of us lots of matter of our founding principles obviously as a nation regardless of who's in charge of the nation that has to be taken care of. But more broadly, we want a treaty that can stand up around the world and can deal with this problem. We have in United States some

2:13:01 standards in the world, in terms of our regulations and our laws with regards to these issues. And we want to make sure that when we do this treaty, we do it right. Get ready. Can you explain what in the treaty was problematic with regards to the Second Amendment? Well, I'm not going to get into the precise text under negotiation. That's obviously not something that we would do in a public forum but... Well why not? You're the most transparent administration in the universe! You should do that! What we want to do is ensure that the goal of this treaty which is to ensure that small arms don't get into the wrong hands. Mmmmm....wrong hands. Are your hands right or wrong John?

2:13:39 Are they right or wrong? How will we define it? My hands are right. It is as tight as possible while being true to the laws of our own nation and the laws of other nations This treaty had been under negotiation for months and years And during all that time, what you just found out recently that there's something in there that might affect the Second Amendment. No we're trying to put something in there! This has been an issue all the way through how to ensure on one hand the strongest possible treaty with regard to the regulation of small arms while ensuring those states who do a good job don't have to change their own laws I don't understand what in an arms trade treaty

2:14:22 how that affects the second US national law and US constitutional law. Again, one... Well you know, You're not a lawyer I'm not a lawyer. The old You're Not A Lawyer card on the table. But there are a number of legal issues involved whenever you do a treaty and you have to ensure that as you negotiate these things, that they also comport with your existing laws and the existing rights of your citizens. I think we need to keep our eye on what's happening there at the UN headquarters because you're not a lawyer! It's very simple... it's very simple right? Right to bear arms but you're not a lawyer You don't know what that means right hand wrong hand?! You might had the wrong hand

2:15:11 So we have to determine what a wrong hand is. You watch. Well, you can put that in the red book but you don't have to just watch. There are more important things than this sort of news Yeah who cares about this news really? I think the big story was on the...I think it was on Good Morning America or yeah it was on Good Morning America and it was the uh..this is all interesting and I want to play It's a little long but I'm going to play this clip and then ask you just got married Yes I did And so I want to know if any of this applies to you. Play Rented Wedding. Hold on, rented wedding... hold on.

2:15:58 So the one thing you want to know is, you want to make sure that you are doing what you can afford. The average wedding in this country averaged $27,000 and yet the median income was 52,000 which means people are borrowing a lot of money to have a wedding. Alright well we have some examples First our bride, this is Jill Tell us about the bridal gown Okay everything she's wearing is rented except for her shoes $2,900 dress that has been rented for four hundred ninety five dollars. All the jewelry is real those are eleven thousand dollar earrings a twenty six thousand dollar bracelet even the clutch twenty seven hundred dollars everything rented she's wearing about forty three thousand dollars worth of stuff

2:16:42 and it's all been rented for just over $1,000. Great look! And even the bridesmaid dresses let's take a look at our gorgeous bridesmaids okay two bridesmaids dresses here first on Selby she's wearing one that's more formal again everything rented that dress retails for 185 dollars it's been rented for 75 and on Michaela Her dress retails for $100. Alright, I get the idea what's the question? No you gotta go you got to play the whole thing because it gets better Okay! $50 has been rented for 50 even the flowers are rented Real flowers can be rented They're fake Oh they look great Nicely done Talk to me about how you can possibly rent a cake Okay this one takes the cake This is a faux cake And what they do is You can have the first tier made as a real cake Or...You could just have one piece made As a real cake For the photo

2:17:30 Normally a cake like this, thousands of dollars rented from CakeRental.com for $125. And then what do you have? A sheet cake in the back that you cut up? That's right! It tastes very good and it is not expensive. That is hysterical and actually not a bad idea. What about if you want to keep your wedding dress for your daughter? Okay, that's good. Alright alright. So a cake did you rent the cake first of all? Did you rent a cake from Cake Rentals? No I mean who is renting cakes nowadays what is wrong with these people?! I think this is a genius business idea and I think that we're stupid that we didn't get in on it This is a great idea! This is great!!

2:18:09 I'm all, I mean so we because Miss Mickey and I are well known in Holland We just got everything sponsored And then we sold pictures to a magazine So that we could thank all the sponsors Well that's pretty cool! I think it's awesome. We go our flowers, we've got the cake, we've got the... But when did you like? It was all free Yeah And we didn't even have to credit him on the No Agenda show. No! And I got paid for the pictures, not a lot but enough and that's enough to pay for the photographer are you kidding me? I got no money for that it's expensive this wedding business. First of all I was stunned by his $27,000 is average cost of a wedding yeah now i'm sure it's up there people are crazy this is this is a huge industry people are completely nuts

2:18:53 So now they're just doing a facade wedding with everything phony and rented so they can play along, hey people go elope. So you can put pictures on Facebook that's what it is all about absolutely Look at my cake she said the cake was for the photo Yeah look at this cake oh look at this cake she had that must have cost thousands of dollars It did By the way those cakes both looked like crap for thousands of dollars let me tell ya right now And I guess they're made out of styrofoam Love it love it now. I got the real news for you John this is a Miss fire what happened there? There we go and now that's a real Of course wait a minute hold on did you have to wear patches and stuff they had the sponsors name on them all over here Yeah, like yeah NASCAR guy yeah, okay. You saw the pictures

2:19:47 From the Globe, now of course we have The National Enquirer. We have The Globe and we have... what's the other one? There is another one. The Star! The Real News Here it is Bill Clinton allegedly begging Hillary to call off their divorce before he dies of AIDS Holy crap, which one was that in? In the Globe. Front page! Cover! The Globe... I don't trust the Globe so much as they do the Enquirer. But we've been looking at him and saying he hasn't looked healthy for a while He doesn't look good. If somebody said he was an AIDS patient it wouldn't surprise me That of course blows my entire theory on elites and how they dodge all this stuff

2:20:37 Well, it could be just bogus. But the salient information is fine. The salient information of course is that he...that Hillary wants to divorce him Yeah they could be couching the whole real story which is the divorce part Could be With the AIDS as a cover up so people say, ah bullshit! When its actually coded information that we need to know It could be coded information that there's a divorce going on And I wouldn't surprise me There's been talk about her wanting to divorce him for almost a long time. Yeah, well he's a douche! She's lesbian. I've got two war on clips not war on chicken unfortunately but we do have the war on baby formula

2:21:25 Yeah, Bloomberg first New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg wanted to ban large sugary drinks to curb obesity now He's turning his attention to instant baby formula starting in September Bloomberg will implement a new initiative that'll keep Instant Formula locked away at New York City hospitals. The move is to encourage new mothers to breastfeed because of its health benefits for newborns. Instant Formula will no longer be included in gift bag giveaways. Formula will still be available if a mother wants or needs it, but nurses will have to sign for it first." I think the gift bag giveaway is probably the nucleus of this story

2:22:01 Like someone didn't pay off someone? Because these gift bags, when you have a baby... You know this is a big marketing opportunity. So Walmart puts diapers in there or pampers and there's all kinds of stuff in there to get you hooked on that This is marketing! This is direct marketing I think someone did not pay the bill on the baby formula Oh that could be yeah Yeah, this is the payback. Then we had the war on weed two stories here I'll give you the I'll give you the interesting story that I this is not clippage but Let me just see The National Institute for Drug Abuse Wow

2:22:45 Mickey just fired up Mustang Sally. Okay, the National Institute for Drug Abuse... I think she's gonna ditch it! Yeah she's out. She's like screw this crackpot. I'm running off with Chad the toilet paper guy. Turns out that in the 1990s funds were given to the Cleminson University researcher John W Huffman and they were researching for a cure to marijuana addiction, and this was money from the National Institute for Drug Abuse. And that they then... This guy came up with the K2 and spice formula

2:23:24 So the... That's interesting. Yeah, isn't it? There is a whole story look at the show notes 431.nashownotes.com and of course they don't know how the recipe got out They probably posted it on the intranet or something so they're baffled how their recipe for K2 and spice got out but also its created by our government according to this report And then we have our drug czar, Karolikowski. who was at, he did a little talk and another dangerous question-answer session. And this beautiful guy gets up and he just lays into Karolikowski who of course is having nothing of his points of view but this guy's very smart very educated and he gives some facts some actual facts which our drug czar is clueless about. I'm Richard Kennedy, I am retired CIA economic analyst graduated from college before marijuana showed up on campus

2:24:22 But I got interested in drug policy when I went back to grad school a few years later and saw it being widely used. And it was pretty clear 40 years ago that marijuana is not more dangerous than alcohol, and today we know with absolute certainty that it's far less dangerous drug than alcohol or tobacco. Those two drugs are killing more than half-a-million Americans every year, the number of marijuana deaths is so low that we can't even detect it in epidemiological studies And I would submit that Mr. Kurlikowski's office is contributing to the alcohol and tobacco deaths because you're sending the message to our kids that only drug they need to worry about is marijuana, and I think that's a tragic mistake." We have a comment?

2:25:06 I think we concentrate on a wide array of drug issues. We clearly don't try to prioritize which is more dangerous than the other, it's a huge mistake to think that marijuana is a benign substance because it clearly is not It's not legalization nor is decriminalisation an answer. No, let's not look at Portugal it's no the answer. When illegal substance becomes legal we know that the use increases Really? Really! Doesn't like the infrastructure in this country That's total bull crap Thank you

2:25:46 Thank you. Of course it's bullcrap, he is just propagating the lies. It is well equipped right now already to deal with the number of people that have alcohol problems that suffer from the effects of nicotine I don't think we're in a position to take care of the people about 1 in 10 and then that doesn't include new users who would become addicted to marijuana. We also don't think that locking everyone up for marijuana is an answer, you know when Stephen mentioned the war on crime... Just lock up the blacks! Yeah about that for a long time we don't think there's and end in sight The officers in Seattle who reduced crime through their dedicated work never thought they were going to work themselves out of a job legalization isn't going to solve our drug problem Okay well good Good to know that

2:26:37 There's your position. Yeah, it's the douchebag position yeah, I'll give him one We and I just got one last short little clip here We have a new anonymous in Russia, in the F-Russia campaign. That was just fun to hear Aaron Burnett or burn it as we say in Texas actually say the words In March we brought you the story of the Russian punk band Pussy Riot I just want to hear her say that a lot These people they wear masks and then all of sudden their punk band Pussy Riot

2:27:17 Just say that a lot, Aaron Burnett. We like it. Pussy riot! Okay... You done? Yeah I got a couple things but they're not that interesting. Take us out on a high. Okay well here's one this is an NBC which is doing nothing but Olympic coverage they sent some crazy shopping woman out who just came back blathering about shopping and where you should go and how you should what you should buy and then she kicks in as he closes What kind of thing but you can run this insane woman's going on blathering on about yeah? By the way and get a copy of Alice in Wonderland, which everybody needs for only 35 pounds 1966 Wow so yeah

2:28:05 Oh, is this fabulous? So the original one first edition was £6000. Now this one it was re-released we got this copy for £35 originally 38 but what a great thing to have! And then in the fashion department here we picked up some statement jewelry of course some knickers that Jimmy our cameraman said he would model And then if you do not have time to go to the market, the three stores that you must hit Harrods Jigsaw, Kate Middleton used to be an accessories buyer there and then Boots. They have their own line it's a pharmacy everything fabulous is there so if you can't get the market Friday or Saturday this is where to go. By the way I... Boots? Boots! Everything's fabulous?! It's fabulous yeah This is the word by the way anything in London is fabulous

2:28:51 It's just fabulous. Let me get this straight, you've been to Boots? Yeah it's like Walmart No it's not! It's a little small yeah but it's like a Walgreens at Walgreens I'm sorry yeah and it's just the pharmacy and they have them whatever boots...it's fabulous it's fabulous it's fabulous fabulous it's fabulous Alright, so much for the most fabulous podcast in the universe. We'll be back on Sunday and the show is still in Colorado! We will be in this exact same locale but we will have a lot more stories to share and maybe I'l run into some shilling feds here at the backup headquarters of United States Gitmo Nation. I'd be happy to pass on some stories to you

2:29:51 And I can't wait to turn the air conditioner on because the bin is hot. Hot! Hot! Hot! Hot! Anyway, Hot Pockets 2009 continues everybody and remember to support us a little bit of gas, a little bit oil maybe even help us out with the power steering pump Coming to you from Gitmo Nation it's here hidden in the hills In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry And from fabulous Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Sunday with another episode right here on NO Agenda.