Episode 418 · Sunday, 17 June 2012

Oryx Burgers!

A potential quid pro quo involving Dianne Feinstein and White House leaks emerges as the IMF proposes a trillion-dollar global carbon tax and Syrian tensions escalate.

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About this episode

The Obama administration faces scrutiny over a Department of Homeland Security memorandum granting prosecutorial discretion to undocumented immigrants under 30. Allegations suggest Secretary Janet Napolitano and Senator Dianne Feinstein brokered a deal to secure California agricultural labor in exchange for suppressed investigations into White House intelligence leaks and the CIA drone kill list. This policy shift coincides with a Father's Day presidential proclamation that officially mandates the display of the American flag.

International tensions rise as the Pentagon contradicts Secretary of State Hillary Clinton regarding Russian attack helicopters in Syria, clarifying the units were refurbished rather than new shipments. Meanwhile, IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde is pushing a global carbon tax of $25 per ton under the Rio Plus 20 agenda, potentially raising $1 trillion over a decade through Article 4 surveillance. In Europe, the Syriza party gains momentum ahead of Greek elections, threatening the stability of the European Stability Mechanism bailout while Italian unemployment triggers violent protests against Prime Minister Mario Monti in Bologna.

A television producer from NBN Lebanon contacted the program to discuss the Pipeline Theory and the regional belief that U.S. intervention in Damascus is driven by Saudi gas transport interests. The session also features a look at the Gorgon Stare drone surveillance system and a listener anecdote about using the podcast to ward off mountain lions during a backcountry emergency. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak also explore the culinary merits of Oryx meat as a cross between venison and goat.


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CHAPTER 01 / 44 Discussion

Father's Day Presidential Proclamation and Flag Day Status

Barack Obama issued a presidential proclamation designating June 17, 2012, as Father's Day. The proclamation, in accordance with a 1972 joint resolution of Congress, directs government officials to display the American flag, effectively making Father's Day an official flag day.

barack obama· father's day· flag day· presidential proclamation· joint resolution of congress

00:00 Never peel a hard-boiled egg again. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Sunday, June 17, 2012. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 418. This is no agenda. Admiring my new tie here at Camp Mofo in the capital of the drone star state. It's Austin Tejas in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And for Northern Silicon Valley where everybody's just getting by, I'm John C. DuBois. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Getting by with a stinger.

00:37 So, uh... Happy Father's Day, John. Happy Father's Day to you, Adam Curry. Happy Father's Day to all the fathers out there. And also, hello to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water, and feet in the air, all the NOAJENDA listeners. Wow, wow, we're getting right to it. And of course, everyone there, all the human resources at the chat room, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net, as you witness the program being created live. There is no editing whatsoever. It is just two guys yapping away in their underwear on a Sunday morning. And it is indeed official by presidential proclamation.

01:15 Yes, that's right. Well, you know, it's a way to go. There's no reason to actually pass laws anymore. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about this. Therefore, I, Barack Obama, President of the United States of America, in accordance with the joint resolution of Congress approved April 24th, 1972, as amended in U.S. Code 109-36, Do I hereby proclaim June 17th, 2012 as Father's Day? I direct the appropriate officials of the government to display the flag! It's an official flag day now. What? Yes, Father's Day is a flag day. And here I thought it was just some- It's a false flag day. Hello. Hey, I like that. It's a false flag day.

CHAPTER 02 / 44 Discussion

Greek Elections and European Stability Mechanism Bailout

Global bankers are monitoring the Greek elections as the Syriza party gains momentum, potentially causing market pandemonium. The outcome remains uncertain as no single party is expected to achieve a majority, delaying the ratification of the European Stability Mechanism (ESM) bailout.

greece· syriza· european stability mechanism· esm· banking crisis

02:01 And all the stupid bankers everywhere, you know, no Father's Day for you because you have Greece votes for Syriza is going to be pandemonium destruction of the world. Have you read about all these bankers who can't have Father's Day? They have to sit in their office and wait for the vote to come in. Yeah, it's funny. Nothing is going to happen. Nothing. They act like it's a referendum. It's not. It's a vote. And if you know, I don't even think any of these parties will have a majority. It's just going to be another like, okay, we'll see in two months time. This has been going on. I mean, this is long was at this point is ludicrous. Yeah. Well, they've got to ratify the ESM. That's what they're all waiting for. So whatever happens, it'll be nothing until that happens because that's the true bailout that's going to take place. But we've been over that. And just in time for today's program, Rodney King found dead in his swimming pool.

CHAPTER 03 / 44 Discussion

Rodney King Death and Race in Presidential Politics

Rodney King was found dead in his swimming pool shortly after releasing a new book. While police suspect no foul play, the timing of his death raises questions about how the event will be spun regarding race relations during the 2012 presidential election cycle.

rodney king· los angeles· race relations· presidential election· book promotion

03:02 It'll be interesting to see how this is spun. I don't know. This is gonna be interesting, but I guess it would we won't have Rodney King coming on anymore saying just get along. I mean he's always been he was always brought in as the go-to guy when anything bad was happening. Right. Well I mean you know so police are saying no foul play suspected. He has a book out. This is a stretch to promote your book, by the way. That goes a little far. Somebody did they read the how to guide wrong? Well, that's kind of the you know, that's kind of the question, right? I mean, if now we've been predicting race being used in the presidential election, this certainly would be a news item. All it takes is just one person to throw in a little spark into the powder keg here with some bogative news.

03:55 And it could start off some crap, so let's hope that doesn't happen. We've been kind of awaiting something to happen. And this seems like, wow, how coincidental is this? We haven't heard from the guy for 15 years. He pops up with a book two months later, he's dead. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Coincidence? I think not! Maybe, maybe not. You were going to say something about President Obama's new initiative for immigration and I actually have a little theory on that. Okay, I got a bunch of clips. I mean, you know, you can do your theory first. No, no, why don't you do your clips first? Well, let's begin with this thing. This is one of your theses which I've always been kind of enamored with, which is the... Oh, you love me, don't you? I do.

CHAPTER 04 / 44 Discussion

ABC News Media Bias and Obama Administration Connections

ABC News is criticized for perceived pro-Obama bias, allegedly stemming from the network president's sister serving as a high-level advisor to the White House. Coverage of a press conference interruption showed both Sam Donaldson and Bill O'Reilly defending the President, which is presented as evidence of a compromised media narrative.

abc news· bill o'reilly· sam donaldson· diane sawyer· media bias

04:51 Love you too is the ABC compromised ABC News. Oh, yeah, of course, so I'm thinking Now Obama's decided just take it put himself to just decree Laws what she's been doing for a while, but this is the most outrageous he keeps pushing the envelope and so now he's decreeing that dream half of the Dream Act essentially in place and So I'm thinking, well how much, you know, are the news media going to do anything about this or say anything about it? And so I turned to ABC and I hear this, and here it is, it's called the, I hear this thing because during his press conference he was interrupted. Yes, you want to hear the interruption? I have the interruption if you want. I actually, I think, why don't we hold off because I think it gets concluded over and over again in these clips. All right. But so I hear the following, this is the real interrupting teaser.

05:40 Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I had the wrong one queued up. Yeah, here we go. ...on both sides. And tonight, the new fallout from this. The next time I prefer you let me finish my statements before you ask that question. The president interrupted tonight from Sam Donaldson to Bill O'Reilly, all weighing in with a message for the man who did the interrupting. Shut up, slave! So, so I'm thinking, wow! ABC has got Bill O'Reilly on because they're gonna do Sam Donaldson's gonna say one thing and then Bill O'Reilly's gonna say another because they you know you're gonna typically you're gonna have to deal with this interruption story with let's have somebody who says it's bad and somebody who's the classic journalism thing is three three parts you find someone who says it's bad it's bad and then someone who says they don't care it's not important it's not important and the other one says no no it's good good good

06:30 Let me just get this straight. The way it works in journalism, find someone who's bad, bad, bad. Someone who says, meh, meh, meh, meh, and someone who says good, good, good. Okay, got it. I can now be a journalist. Great. That's the model. Okay. So I figure, well, let's see what, and I said, wow, they brought O'Reilly of all people. So, so now listen to this balanced report, the clip is the Donaldson and O'Reilly balanced report, the ABC compromise network pro-Obama, always going to support him according to the theory, and here's what we get for our balanced report. and interrupting him. He was wrong to do it. I mean, presidents and other officials, everybody for that matter, deserve respect. I never interrupted a president when he was making a formal presentation. I never heckled the president. Fox News anchor Bill O'Reilly defending the president too. You must respect the office of the presidency even if you don't like the person in it. Sir Obama was correct in calling Monroe out.

07:26 And we reached out to Neil Monroe and he would not comment on the criticism he's received. Wait a minute, wait a minute. I got too good and I got no bad and no bleh. What happened? What happened to the reporting? What happened to the rule? It just proves your point about ABC. Well, ABC, just so everyone knows, the reason why it's so compromised is the president of, the new president of ABC News, in fact, I've been saying this so long, he's no longer that new, he's been there for about a year, His sister is a super secret high level advisor to the president. So that's how the connection is made and that's how you know, you know, the interviews come to them first. Diane Sawyer is always drunk and propagating whatever they want. So that's that's how the compromised ABC News works.

CHAPTER 05 / 44 Discussion

Dream Act Implementation and Homeland Security Memorandum

Secretary Janet Napolitano issued a Department of Homeland Security memorandum outlining prosecutorial discretion for young undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children. The criteria include being under age 30, residing in the U.S. for five years, and having a high school diploma or military service, though the policy also contains provisions for individuals subject to final removal orders regardless of age.

dream act· janet napolitano· department of homeland security· ice· immigration policy

08:12 I did figure this out though by the way. Okay. So first of all, you know, I, uh, and I, I didn't spend the time. You're talking about the Dream Act part of it or the shut up slave part of it? No, the Dream Act. No, the shut up slave. I thought that was just funny. It was. I thought so. In fact, I'll just play the whole thing so everyone knows what we're talking about. So the president comes out and is basically saying, you know, we're not going to arrest anyone who's an illegal alien under certain circumstances, which is indeed part of the DREAM Act legislation, which by the way also includes that you have to uh... either uh... take a loan and go to school and be a an enslaved that way or you have to go into the military and be enslaved that way so it's a what a dream what a dream this act is here's the interruption as he was talking in the rose garden patriotic young people it is the right thing to do excuse me sir uh... that there's not time for questions sir uh... not while i'm speaking

09:17 Precisely because he gives him a look to like I'm still This was a setup by someone is my thinking. I don't know who planted it or who? Decided this guy's idea. He's a blogger right. That's what he's a blogger. I get this access well. He's behind a rope Yeah, but there's never that many people there and it's a pretty big breaking news story. How did this guy get access? He's a blogger. I never heard of him. No. Well, what was his blog? Because that'll probably, you know, that's probably the... I'd have to look it up. It doesn't matter. It's some right wing blog, but it's beside the point. So anyway, so what I was reading and hearing everywhere, except for Krauthammer actually said it correctly, but people like, you know, this executive order stuff has got to stop. You know, he's bypassing laws. He's doing all this. This can't go on.

10:07 So I actually let it sit for a day and I'm like, let me just check the executive orders. There's no executive order on this. And I'm like, well, let me go see what this is really about. And what it is about is a decision by Homeland Security. And I have the filing here from Lucy Napolitano. And it's a three pager and it's actually a memorandum. She says, I'm setting forth how in the exercise of our professional discretion, the Department of Homeland Security should enforce the nation's immigration laws against certain young people who are brought to this country as children, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So it's kind of refocusing where ICE in particular, which is Immigration and Customs Enforcement, where they will spend their resources.

10:58 And so there's something interesting that is not discussed in any of the media, because of course everyone's only talking about the guy who interrupted and no one went to you know like www.dhs.gov Wow I'm such a journalist and downloaded the document. It's in the show notes 418.nashownotes.com So it has indeed it has the specifications The criteria, one, you have to have come to the United States under the age of 16, have to have continuously resided in the United States for at least five years preceding the date of this memorandum, and is present in the United States on the date of this memorandum, currently in school, has graduated from high school, has obtained a general education development certificate, a GED,

11:41 or is honorably discharged veteran of the Coast Guard or Armed Forces of the United States. By the way, I don't understand how we have illegals in our armed forces. That's what I was thinking when I saw that. That's kind of weird. Wait a minute. Oops. Does anybody do any background on anybody? No, no, no, no. Hey, can you hold this gun? You're good to go, son. Has not been convicted of a felony offense a significant misdemeanor offense multiple misdemeanor offenses or otherwise poses a threat to national security public safety So, you know you can steal some gum, but that's about it and you're not above the age of 30 And so then it says, you know with respect to these individuals who meet the above criteria bloody bloody blah Then you get a personal interview. There's no guarantee in it's not immunity It's a personal interview so we can look at your case. And by the way immigration laws I will say

12:27 are set on a case-by-case basis. The whole reason why Ms. Mickey is getting a visa, which by the way, we don't have yet, is because she's now officially family. They're meant to keep families together and I'm okay with that premise. But here's what's interesting, which no one has picked up on. Point number three, with respect to the individuals who are not currently in removal proceedings and meet the above criteria and pass a back, I'm sorry, pass a background check, Wait, that's not the one I wanted. I'm sorry. Here it is. Yeah, so that's where Customs Immigration establishes a clear and efficient process for exercising prosecutorial discretion on individual basis by deferring action against individuals who meet the above criteria. But then it has another point down below. The USCIS, that's United States Customs Integration Services,

13:26 process shall also be available to individuals subject to a final order of removal regardless of their age. That I find very interesting. This is not just about kids, this is about anybody and I haven't heard anyone report on this. That it's regardless of age. So this is very... Wait, isn't that, doesn't that section actually Only it's is what are you implying that they can let a 50 year old person stay yes, or I? Would interpret it as follows that if you're under 30 they? They can treat you like a 50 year old throw you out um I

CHAPTER 06 / 44 Discussion

Dianne Feinstein and White House Leak Investigation Quid Pro Quo

A theory suggests the Obama administration's immigration policy shift was a deal with Senator Dianne Feinstein to protect California's agricultural labor force. In exchange for securing undocumented farm workers during harvest season, Feinstein allegedly backed off an investigation into White House intelligence leaks and the CIA's drone policy "kill list."

dianne feinstein· barack obama· cia· agriculture labor· white house leaks

14:16 Well, yeah, but I don't think that's what's going on here. And really, I have to say, I'm okay with this. I don't really have a problem with it. It's going to get him a huge amount of voters, whatever, maybe. Is it a political motive? Maybe. I know why he did this, and he gave it away. After the initial interruption, he let something slip and I was like, oh, now I understand why he's doing this. Listen to this. "...that expels innocent young kids. And the answer to your question, sir, and the next time I prefer you let me finish my statements before you ask that question, is this is the right thing to do for the American people. Babe Bika, I didn't ask for an argument, I'm answering your question. It is the right thing to do for the American people and here's why.

15:06 Here's the reason. Because these young people are going to make extraordinary contributions and are already making contributions to our society. I've got a young person who is serving in our military, protecting us and our freedom. The notion that in some ways we would treat them as expendable makes no sense. If there's a young person here who has grown up here and wants to contribute to this society, wants to maybe start a business,

15:42 that will create jobs for other folks who are looking for work, that's the right thing to do. Giving certainty to our farmers and our ranchers. No! Okay. Well, no, giving, well hold on a second. Giving certainty to our farmers and ranchers. Why? Because we need Mexicans working on our farms and ranches. Now why is he doing this? Right now this president is under enormous pressure from Dianne Feinstein of California She wants to expose him of all of the leaks I take you back to episode 403 of this very program where Lucy Napolitano was being grilled by the very same senator from California who said this is agriculture enforcement audits

16:33 Obviously I have a bias. We have 81,000 farms in California. Virtually all of the labor is undocumented. What happens is in harvest season, canning season, ice swoops in. We've got a problem. I've tried for 10 years to get an Ag Jobs bill through and I can't get it through. The fact of the matter is that if we want American produce, the labor is generally undocumented. And this goes on where she says, I hope you can, I hope Lucy, you can find a solution for me. Remember, I highlighted this, said, wow, she's asking for a quid pro quo. She's asking for a favor. She gets her favor. And what do we find out now?

17:18 that in this investigation of the White House leaks, the CIA has, per instruction of the Intelligence Committee, not filed a crime report with the Justice Department over Obama's drone policy and kill list. No, they've only filed a crime report over the underwear bomber. And Feinstein is backing off. This was a deal. Well, I'm glad the administration can actually do deals. They did a deal! Finally, they did a deal. And that's what this is about. This is about Feinstein's undocumented workers. That's what this whole thing is about. Because it's not going to add many votes. You think anyone's fooled? Like, oh, yeah. No, actually, the joke of it is they show all these guys show that he's already got, in the last election, he got 67 plus percent.

18:12 of the Hispanic vote, which is about what's gonna be again. In fact, it may actually go down because a lot of Hispanics don't like any of this because they figure that they went through a lot of, the voters, actual voters, they went through a lot of effort to become American citizens and he's just handing them a blank check. And by the way, you can't vote unless you're an American citizen. Right, that's the other thing. He's not gonna add anybody to the rolls. Miss Mickey can't vote. You know, she can't show up and say, hey, let me vote. I've been working on the farm illegally. I can't vote. But as soon as this came up, I said, you know, the harvest season is just now begun. Hello. In effort, in earnest, I mean. And so we have the timing is perfect. We're entering the tomato season. We just got out of the fruit season or the fruit season still underway, but we're finished off most of it like cherries and apricots.

19:04 Then we go and then as this thing winds down and we get to the field lettuces and things like that which really take back breaking labor, we move to the grapes. We need some dudes. And so by the election, they could reverse this. Yes, exactly. We don't need you anymore. Get out. But it's so obvious. There's Feinstein saying, I need this from you. There's Obama says, OK, here it is for your farms. He says it right there. farms. Oh, okay. And then she says, okay, I'll back off on that little investigation I was doing. You'll never hear anything from it. Never hear anything. This is how your government works, ladies and gentlemen. And this is why hopefully you listened to this program for this incredible analysis, which took me all of seven minutes to put together. It was so easy. I'm like, oh yeah, okay. Yeah, I get that. We have our, our catalog of clips.

20:01 Anyway, how did you find that clip? That's a tough clip to find which one was it was it labeled properly? Searching success search dot na show notes calm and you would you to put in for the search Feinstein and then mp3 So you found all the Feinstein clips had to listen to her again. They're probably Because it was labeled here it is labeled the label on the clip was Feinstein no ice Because I remembered exactly what it was about and it was when when we had the hookers and blow scandal They brought in Lucy to testify remember she had this whole like three you can listen to the whole clip in the show notes This is three minute thing, but I hope you can find so hope you can find the solution for me Lucy

20:43 Oh, there it is. Done. Done deal. And it's Napolitano who did this. The president didn't do anything. He just called her up and said, hey, yo, yo, dude, dude, fix this for me. And she went, OK, no problem. I can do this. And she has her legal interpretation in there. You know, it's all legal what she's doing. And I'm not against this. Yeah. Back off on the Mexicans. Absolutely. Here, this memorandum confers to no substantive substantive right. Substantive. Yeah, exactly. Substantive right, immigration status or pathway to citizenship. Only the Congress acting through its legislative authority can confer these rights. It remains for the executive branch, however, to set forth policy for the exercise of discretion within the framework of the existing laws. I've done so here. Of course it does. Of course. And I'm okay with it.

21:34 Personally, just on my own personal level, I'm like, eh, whatever. If these are the criteria, fine. I want my grapes. I want my lettuce. I'm okay with that. But everyone's bitching about some blogger who interrupted. Can't you see? It's so obvious. This is finally, yeah, I mean, this would be the headline. Obama finally does a deal. Well, he won't get much credit for it except from our show, which is really funny. How weird is that? He gets credit from, like Mr. President. Do more bloggers. Mr. President, I have the results of our media coverage. Well, you got some credit from these jabronis over there on the No Agenda podcast show. That's about it, Mr. President. Damn almighty.

CHAPTER 07 / 44 Discussion

Father's Day Gifts and Eggies Product Anecdote

A discussion of Father's Day gifts highlights "Eggies," a plastic mold product designed to boil eggs without their shells. One of the hosts received the item as a gag gift from his daughter, who purchased it at a Goodwill store.

father's day· eggies· goodwill· as seen on tv· parenting

22:24 All right. So today is Father's Day. You sent a very funny note out to everybody I saw under personal title. Yeah. And well, I did. I thought that people should be. We did have this idea. We're always so slow on the draw when it comes to some of these concepts. Certainly. We're very slow. We're just slow on the draw. We're slow dudes. Slow is different. So anyway, I We came up with this idea to get people to say thanks to their fathers and so I said well you know I wish everyone's fathers didn't encourage this idea and of course again since the father's always the short gets the short sheet. You know and why is that? We didn't get that many. No we didn't. As fathers we really do get the short end of the stick don't we? Yeah always. Did you get anything?

23:16 I got a couple things for my daughter. What did she give you? Her gift wrapping is actually more interesting than the gifts because she's an artist and she draws a whole painting on the thing I have to tear open. But she got me a couple minor items, just nice things. Can you mention them? She left a sticker on this thing. It's a gag gift, which I think is hilarious because the whole family has talked about this as the most idiotic thing in the world. And so she got me these eggies. Eggies? Never peel a hard-boiled egg again. Oh. Eggies, hard-boiled eggs without the shell. They're these little plastic things that you put, you crack an egg into them and then you boil them.

24:03 And then when you open it, you have a hard-boiled egg without the shell that you would have had if you just left the shell on. So it's like a mold is what it is. It's like an egg-shaped thing. You put an egg in, it's the stupidest thing in the world because how hard is it to boil an egg? Crack boil twist is what it says on the back. Oh, that's great and instead of actually ordering it for $9.95 Wait, there's more. Uh-huh you get two On the back she's she's left the label the price tag on it goodwill That's sweet I've gotten nothing from my daughter so far. No, well you probably get some in the mail Yeah, I got a beautiful card from Miss Mickey. I

CHAPTER 08 / 44 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and No Agenda Donor Recognition

Donors from Alberta, Georgia, and Texas are recognized for their financial support of the program. Notable mentions include a producer who maintains a "No Agenda" labeled cigar humidor at a private club and a request for a voice message regarding a Tesla in Frisco, Texas.

alberta· tesla· cigar humidor· no agenda· donation

24:49 And she made me a Father's Day, show day pancakes. Coffee in bed, hello. That doesn't suck. Let's just spill it. So let's thank producers who we have today. We must have... Yeah, I see we have an exec, don't we? Yeah. Yeah, we have an executive producer and one, two, three, four associate executives, which is... Now, a reminder... ...Bernie Hanna is our executive producer, came in from Okotox, Alberta. for and I don't think he said it's anything I checked the email I couldn't find a note either so let me take one more look hold on a second we got a reminder for those of you who are new to the program executive producers on this show works exactly like a big and and and medium-sized Hollywood productions you put up some money to help reduce it you get a credit in Hollywood of course

25:40 You get to hang out with the actresses and actors and have sex and do blow with them. Here you don't get that, but it is a real credit. We wish! Yeah, well we're trying. We're shooting for the moon on this. But it is a real credit and unlike the phonies in Hollywood will actually vouch for you if someone ever questions your media accreditation which is real in this case. It's an actual credit. So Barry did send us a note, he says, second time donor, I began listening to your podcast from the beginning, have enjoyed every one of the episodes, I was unable to see how to contact you on your donation page. You know, it's usually under instructions, I don't know, I've never donated, I should donate I guess five bucks and see, because some people have trouble finding the box to type into. It's not that hard, I mean it says, note to seller or some shit like that. Yeah, right. Okay, well anyway, so he's our executive producer from Alberta, which is the rich

26:33 province in Canada and $400 and then we have Scott from Dawsonville, Georgia Donating drunk he claims John here we go John dude. You need to try some of these North Georgia wines no not muscadine And he's got GeorgiaWine.com. I don't know of any, but I'll have to do that. Anyway, I checked my PayPal account and I think I hit knighthood on the 4th 13th episode. Being drunk, please check for me. Black Knight, if not O'Damn. I've never asked for karma before, but this donation is 69, 69 times three, 20907. I need some help winning over a super hot nerd girl who lost her booby dagger.

27:18 What what's a booby dagger I have no idea? After you quit the rings, please consider them as down payment for my second knighthood Could I get a Sunday morning service slide whistle karma thing time for moonshine? Thanks to the best podcast in the universe either the slide whistle all roll out the karma I Booby dagger let me see I can't find a booby dagger. I don't know what booby daggers are Marinov Borisov Marinov who's helping us out quite a bit recently a le ho eliso viejo, California

27:59 209 still waiting for my third human resource, please send karma to him his mother and all the HR and my family Also send good karma to all the fathers whether they have donated or not Comment I'm still working towards multiple knighthoods for my kids sir Barris lawful. It's great I mean I I love seeing the Knights stepping in I wish we had more new people but we are happy to hand out some karma for the fam. You've got karma Gene Neftuliev. Let me say something about Gene. Gene is in Tejas and he sent me, I think he's in, well he says Frisco.

28:37 Frisco, Texas. He sent me a picture. He has a one of those cigar humidor lockers. Oh, he's got he has a locker. Yeah, with no agenda is the he has a little label on it. You get a little plaque. Yeah. With your name. And he has no. Oh, is this in somebody else's facility? Yeah. Yeah. It's not his house. Yeah. It's like a club and like a cigar smoking club. So he says there's no agenda there. Yes. I got it. Yeah. It's awesome. It's beautiful. He says, I'm not drunk, but I'm smoking a cigar. Thanks for the show guys. Adam, can I trouble you to read the following which I will use as a voice message? Hit it. Mike, this is Adam Curry asking you to leave the Tesla in the garage when you pick Gene up at the airport. Thanks dude. I think that'll work. I guess. He has a Tesla I guess. Somebody does.

29:27 Nice we got if we got to meet this gene dude no no Mike's got the Tesla Yeah, but he's leaving the Tesla in jeans garage. I see maybe my house sitting or something cool. It's a Tesla in Texas Wow That's pushing the edge right there sir Robert gosh going Sherwood Park, Alberta another Alberta in from the best province in Canada By the way, the Albertans are the ones that contribute, always are high on the list of what they contribute. $200, in the morning, John and Anna from Get Mo' Nation Back Bacon, here's a donation for my dad, Glenn, and father-in-law, Richard, who are sadly no longer with us. Keep up the good work. Can I get a one hot milf, baby? Karma shot for my dame and a happy Father's Day to all the donor dads out there. Don't be a boner, people. That's one hot milf, baby. You've got karma.

CHAPTER 09 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Art Generator and Student Animation Project

Artist Thorin is thanked for contributing episode artwork, which is hosted on the No Agenda Art Generator website. Additionally, a student named Ted created an animation for the show's intro as part of a college project, receiving mixed reactions from his classmates.

thorin· no agenda art generator· animation· school project· open source

30:29 Okay, and that's all that'll be it. That'll be our one, two, three, four associate executive producers and one executive producer for show 418. I want to thank everybody who helped us on this show and remind you to go to Dvorak.org slash N-A as D-V-O-R-A-K or noagendashow.com, noagendasnation.com and channeldvorak.com slash N-A to help us out continue this effort that we're putting in. devolverac.org slash N A A couple quick PR mentions first of all thanks to Thorin for the artwork on episode 417 great job as always

31:08 Thorin, it's always very hard for us to choose and of course you can always in the credits, our artists always get a credit. There's also a link to NoahArtGenerator.com. You can look at all the awesome art that has been submitted for each episode. You can use it for anything you want really which is part of the great system we've put together here of open source copy and propagate. And of course often those are used in the newsletters and we appreciate Thorin's work and I wanted to say hi to Ted. Who and I'll put a link to this in the show notes He had a school project and he created as a part of this He created a video to one of our openings and it's a beautiful video I mean he did a huge animation job on it and he says here I got up in front of my classmates showed them the video I made most of them are 20-somethings when I got to the crackpot and buzzkill in the morning I did get some nervous laughter from a few students. I guess they were a little confused about what to think and

32:06 Guess we hit him in the mouth. Hopefully people will check it out to definitely find out why I always have these on hand So that's cool. You got to hit the youngins in the mouth for sure very very happy about that And of course, you can always do something very important, which is go out take our formula and propagate it widely Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth I looked for At least an hour yesterday and could for the life of me not find that little kid doing shut up slave So whoever edited that and sent it to me. Could you please send it again? Because I just don't have it. It's uh, it's nowhere in my show notes archive I don't know what happened somehow must have gotten deleted really weird

CHAPTER 10 / 44 Discussion

Syrian Television Producer Interview Request and Pipeline Theory

A television producer from Damascus, Syria, contacted the show to request an interview regarding the "Pipeline Theory." The producer, who works for NBN Lebanon, recognized one of the hosts from his previous career as an MTV VJ and discussed the regional belief that the U.S. is attempting to secure gas transport to Europe for Saudi Arabia.

damascus· syria· nbn lebanon· pipeline theory· mtv

33:03 I think we just have a mislabeled or so no no I think yellowjacket sent it to me I checked all the public Dropbox for an email and tell him to get it I've just done it I've just asked him now so something really interesting happened yesterday John really yeah very interesting okay so we have one of our producers Ken that produces YouTube videos under the name arsonomics And what he does is he takes audio from our show and then he'll make a screencast and he'll show the show notes and different websites that we're talking about. And it's a very entertaining way to propagate the formula. And he's done a lot of these for us so far. And I think he actually started off by doing this with the Pipelines Theory, episode 381 if I'm not mistaken. And he got an email from someone who wanted to

33:56 I talked to the person who had done this video and he forwarded this email to me and this person reached out to me, Firas is his name, and he is a producer in Damascus, a television producer in Damascus, in Syria. And he says, I want to interview you about the pipeline theory. Please give me a call. I'm like, oh that's interesting. I don't think we have any listeners in Syria, do we? That we know of? Have we ever received any? We haven't had any donations from Syria that I know of. We might have, we'd have to look it up in the database. Because of course if you think Syria, you think a bunch of bunnies in the sand, you know, getting blown up and it's a war zone. You know, you kind of don't expect to get a cell phone number and just, hey give me a call whenever it works for you. So last night I'm prepping the show.

34:48 It's about a quarter to 12, so that's I think a quarter to 7 or a quarter to 8 in Syria. And I checked the number, it's 0963, which is the number for Syria. That's the country code for Syria. I'm like, I'll give him a call. And can you guess what the first thing is that he said to me? He's a no agenda listener. Almost as good. Yes. Hi, it's Adam Curry. Hi, how are you? I'm good, how are you? Oh, fine. Very, very interesting theory, actually. I'm really impressed. Let me ask a question. Are you the same Adam Karim? The MTV guy?

35:31 What? Brother. That's me from the 80s and 90s. Did you watch that in Syria? Yes, it is really nice. Yes, it's an amazing show. Mr. Adam, are you interested in coming here for a TV show? Already in Lebanon if you don't like to come to Syria. Actually, I am a producer of this TV show and I'm planning to just explain what you have stated on YouTube. So he's a producer for NBN, which is Lebanese television.

36:15 I think it's available in the United States on some cable channels actually. I don't know. Have you ever heard of this outfit? NBN? No, it's probably, you know, there's a lot of this weird, a lot of people don't realize it, but there's a lot of ethnic programming that is available. For example, one of my daughter's best friends is It's from Georgia, her family's from Georgia. And you know the Russia side. Yeah, yeah, Georgia, Sokoviev, and Tyene. And I go over to their house once in a while, they pick J.F., she's hanging out there. I've met that grown mom. I go on the Dish Network. And they got a whole, it's the Dish Network. Right. But you start going through channel, one Russian channel after another. I usually stay there watching Russian TV, real Russian TV from Moscow.

37:00 Yeah, that's the the mom the cute mom the Russian mom. She was at the Thanksgiving five years ago last time I saw you in purpose. Yeah first time ever. It's true. Yeah, but anyway the fact We have here is the is all there's about five or six these Russians and I said where'd you get these channels? I've never even seen them on the menu to get oh no. There's a special program Really they they retarget the dish and they hit some satellite with all these sorts of programs. Oh Interesting. You can get Spanish, you can get a whole Spanish thing, you can get Russian. If they got Russian that means they got French, they got all kinds of stuff that very few people know about it, they don't advertise. So he's offering to fly me and Ms. Mickey over to Damascus, which I said, well I don't know if that'll work. He said, well if you want we can go to Beirut, we'll take care of your airfare, your hotel, we want to interview about the pipeline theory.

37:55 And so first of all, I mentioned this to Miss Mickey. She goes into heart palpitations. She's like freaking out. She's like, this is not good. This is not good. You shouldn't do this. This is not good. I'll talk with, I'll talk to John about it tomorrow. See what he thinks if I should go or not. Um, of course, so that, you know, I'm recording the call cause this is too interesting and I want to, I'm trying to get stuff out of him. So, you know, I'm like goading him for about 15, 20 minutes. I'm like, you know, I'm trying to figure out what, what his view of the situation is. And, um, I got this little bit out of him. Explain what you have stated on YouTube. So here's his thing. Actually, we have some people who have this theory. Oh shit. What happened there? Well he said he has some people that have this theory. Oh crap. The clip broke. Oh shit.

38:47 Okay, I'll tell you what he said. He said, it'd be easier by the way if you did. Yeah, it's hard to understand. He said that a lot of people don't understand that this is about the United States wanting to secure the gas transport to Europe for the Saudis. and the Russians of course don't want the Saudis taking over their business. That's what he says the general thesis is in Syria and in Lebanon. That would sound like something that you'd hear on the streets, yes? Yeah. But he says most people still don't... By the way, Americans don't realize the amount of

39:25 political chit-chat that go on at a very high level and very a lot of it's just gossip but you get as compared to the where we sit around America sit around talking about who won the you know the American Idol show or was that a great singer they actually talk about their politics they talk about know why they're getting bombed and stuff yes and he was all he said very it's you know it's very obvious that the Americans are trying to start a civil war so that essentially, and this plays right into the Anschluss that you were talking about, that we were talking about on the last show, that this is where the Saudis are building up this huge

CHAPTER 11 / 44 Discussion

Potential Damascus Travel Logistics and Security Concerns

The hosts discuss the logistics of traveling to Damascus or Beirut for a television appearance. While concerns about safety and kidnapping are raised, they explore flight options via Air France and KLM through European hubs like Paris and Amsterdam.

beirut· damascus· air france· klm· travel safety

40:03 conglomerate and they want to have their gas going into Europe, which is a multi trillion dollar a year business. This is really, really big. And so obviously it's to thwart the Russian gas, which is why the Russians want no part of it. So before we get into that, though, I want your opinion. You know, Mickey feels uncomfortable. First of all, I know Beirut. I mean, you can go on vacation in Beirut. You know, it's not it's not like a war zone. You've been there. She hasn't. I have not been to Beirut. And I can assure you that, here's the problem, if it was up to me to make a decision on this, I would go without Mickey. She's going to be a nervous wreck the whole time. She's got to wear a burka and all that. She's not going to like it. She's not there. That part of the neck of the woods in the Middle East, she doesn't have to wear those things.

40:53 She's still also gonna be, she's too tall, it's just that she stands out in a white slavery. I don't, I just. She's gonna be the perfect white slave, is that what you're saying? Hey, Abdul, get that one! She looks hot! This is a good one. You've done this and you can take a quick trip, because you're used to traveling to the Atlantic anyway, although this is not a quick trip because getting to the Middle East is about a 20 hour deal. But I would go to Damascus for sure, not Beirut. I think actually Beirut's probably more dangerous. interest because if you go to Damascus, they're gonna like essentially protect you yeah, and you will also get a even though you're gonna be surrounded by a bunch of Guys are gonna keep an eye on you. You can at least get the boots on the ground Report back. I was really gonna help our show a lot. Yeah, well, that's what I was like. I'm like this is great

41:41 That's totally great. I think Damascus will be cool. The problem is I don't know what the State Department thinks about this sort of thing Well, maybe as it but you said you'll be working essentially as a journalist and an analyst Yeah, I don't see how they can stop you from going. Well, maybe I just put in a call to Uncle Don for a number of reasons One I can get the paperwork done to I'll have boots on the ground myself. I have some guys looking out for me. I I don't know if that's going to be a good idea, but I mean I think talking to Don is, but I don't know if you want to be too associated with American intelligence agencies. But whatever the case, I think you should do it. If you can, if the guy's going to pick up the tab. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said, well, I will, because I was really, I'm like, well. I would go, what would really be cool is if, this may be something of a stretch, but what would really be cool is if you could actually do one of the shows from there.

42:33 Well of course, that would be the whole point. The whole point is to get there I think, I don't think else. I think doing a show from there is... Doing a show from there would be outstanding. And you don't think that this is a setup to kill me, do you? No. It's too obvious. But here's Mickey's concern. She's thinking, yeah, but if you're out there to kill you, it's bullcrap. There's no chance of that. Here's Mickey's concern. Her concern is that I'll be used as a propaganda tool and then I'll wind up dead in my swimming pool. here at home, I'll come back and be like, that guy's a bunch of trouble. You're not going to say anything that you haven't said on the show. That's what I told her. She says, yeah, but you know, this is now you're in Damascus. I'm like, I don't know. I'm up for adventure, actually. I'm like, you know.

43:24 How often do you get this opportunity? That's rare. And then how would I fly? Does American Airlines go there? Does Southwest go there? American Airlines. Yeah, Pan Am as a matter of fact. Does Southwest fly direct to Damascus? No, they don't fly anywhere direct. But with 35 stops, you'll get there. It takes five days. But you know, it's like driving across country in a minivan. Do I have to sneak in through Turkey or something? Or how are they going to... They're going to have to sneak me in. Well, they don't really have to, I mean, they have the paperwork. Let's see. Let's take a look. Let's look into this for just one second. Flying... I'm going to do Southwest. Into... About bonus miles. Damascus. For bonus rewards. Maybe I can get an upgrade. Flight to Damascus. Air France goes there. Of course it does. Of course. Here's the Air France flight. Flight to Damascus from $149.

44:22 By the way, do not fly on any Middle Eastern carriers. Right. Air France would be good. That's the one I would go with. Do they have a direct flight from Paris? Let's find out. Let's find out. So that's also KLM, by the way. There you go. You can get in that way and go. Let's see. Let's try SF. Oh, you're in Austin. No, I'll bet you I can get there from Amsterdam. Watch let's see if we can go Dallas love field From Bush's headquarter. No I get the joke Amsterdam to I'm doing it on the KLM site right now Damascus Service all from all the European hubs to Damascus they have a flight they have a flight hold on a second here. I'm getting my

45:21 Oh, not on that date. That's probably one of those they do three times a week. Right, right, right. Let me see. Can I do a different day? Maybe Monday. But they have flights to Damascus. Yeah. From Amsterdam. Yeah. That doesn't surprise me. They probably have them from Paris. Damascus direct flight. Let me just... This is looking good. I could fly world business class. I'm gonna have to pay for a... here we go. Flight answer. You can't make that. You're too big not to fly business. That's just a problem. Yeah. Paris to Damascus. A bunch of flights. Beautiful. Okay. Well, he was gonna say... I said, you know, look, send me an email. Give me all the information. Give me some links, you know, a little background on the show. You know, tell me how we're gonna do it. But I think Damascus... I mean, Beirut, yeah, whatever.

CHAPTER 12 / 44 Discussion

State Department Massacre Predictions and Syrian Tourism

State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland listed specific Syrian provinces, including Latakia and Homs, where the regime might be planning massacres. The hosts contrast these warnings with reports of busy shopping malls in Damascus and the availability of luxury goods like saffron and caviar.

victoria nuland· damascus· latakia· homs· saffron

46:18 No, no, you don't want to go to Bay Area. You want to be in Syria during this period of time. The chat room disagrees with you by the way. Oh what? They think I'm set up to get knocked off. Well that's... proving I'm correct. It's the chat room. Well really all we... if we want to know where there's going to be an attack All we have to do is just listen to Victoria Nuland over there at the State Department, because she apparently knows exactly where it's going to take place. Here she is, Nostradamus Nuland. The regime may be organizing another massacre, this time in the village of Al-Hafa in Latakia province, as well as in the towns of Deir ez-Zor, in Daraa, in Homs, in Hama, and in the suburbs of Damascus. She's got the list right there.

47:12 It's my word with some pipelines going right from point A to point B Yeah, but it's this I have to stay away from the suburb there in Damascus when we see what was the name of that suburb I'll just I'll make sure whatever you do you have to go to Damascus Listen, let's listen in homes in Hummer and in the suburbs of Damascus suburbs So we don't want to be in the suburbs of Damascus. You're not gonna be in the suburbs anyway No, I'm gonna be in Iran. Yeah, they're gonna film. Yeah, they're gonna probably take you to a mall go to the big mall I want to see how that thing's doing. I bet you they got an awesome mall there. Oh No, they do. That was highlighted in the New York Times and it's just busy as a bee in there. I want you to go in there and then pick up some, you need to pick up some while you're in that area, while you're in the neighborhood. Pick up some good saffron. There's plenty of it in that. Saffron, check. Lots of saffron. Get like a lot of it. Check on the saffron. Well, actually that's probably all I, there's actually some good deals on caviar, but that won't do me any good.

48:04 But there should be some dynamite caviar in the area because the Russians are connected to them. So there's going to be caviar for sale that's cheap. Hey, you don't eat caviar? No, if you're going to bring it, you're not going to send it to me. So I don't care whether you get it or not. Of course I'd send it to you. You would? Of course. I love you. Okay, well yeah, go get some mosetra or some of the... You're my daddy-o of the radio, of course. Some good caviar and it comes in these big giant tins. And what else would you want to get? I'll look into it because there's probably some other Syrian specialty items that you can haul back. Maybe I'm sure you're gonna have fun getting back these customs. They're gonna take you aside. So what do you think it would be like if I got kidnapped over there? It's not gonna happen. Would it be like a three thirty second item on Wolf Blitzer?

CHAPTER 13 / 44 Discussion

Pentagon Contradicts Hillary Clinton on Russian Helicopters

A Pentagon spokesperson stated he had seen no reporting to indicate Russia is providing new attack helicopters to Syria, contradicting earlier claims by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. The military official clarified that while the Assad regime uses helicopter gunships, the specific airframes are not confirmed as recent Russian deliveries.

pentagon· hillary clinton· russian helicopters· syria· captain kirby

48:51 We'd make it a big item. We'd this would be great. Thanks. That's good to know John. Thanks We we came Osama it was this we be like a slide whistling away there for two and a half hours They gave me no show if I get kidnapped. No we could talk about the kidnapping And take calls Okay, and take Leo's actually getting some gear and saying take calls over the internet. I love it Let's stick with Syria for a second So some interesting things taking place in the State Department, in these press conferences that I admire so much. And a lot of it is now focused around the lies that Hillary Clinton propagated about the attack helicopters. And while I was researching this, they actually started to backpedal on that. But in my research, I came across a great RSS feed and new conferences I now have to pay attention to of the Pentagon. The Pentagon has

49:50 Press conferences not dissimilar to what the State Department does and what spokesholder Carney does But these you I don't think you ever see them ever on tell you we see Newland from time to time on television We see her the other dude at the State Department. Of course, we see Carney, but you never see Captain Kirby or What's the other guy's name? Hold on a second. I'll get you his name I don't remember what it is. Mr. Mr. Miller or whatever and you know what Neil said their uniforms and they take questions and so here is the question about the Russian helicopters and his answer very surprising Secretary of State Clinton said just a short time ago that Russia is now supplying attack helicopters to the Syrians and warns of a serious escalation of

50:47 in the fighting there. Can you provide any details as to what kind of helicopters, when were they delivered, how are they being delivered? I have not seen reporting that indicates that the Russians are providing attack helicopters to Syrians. What? What? What? Luckily the journalists in the room have some brain cells and they question this obviously. I've just not seen that. What I can tell you is that we have been in consultations with our Russian partners for some time now about the way forward in Syria and about soliciting their support for the kinds of international and economic pressure that we believe needs to continue to be applied against the Assad regime. But I've not seen reports about

51:34 specific helicopter airframes being a being he's being very specific it's like you know this excuse me at Lucifer over there that in that small building because of course we're in the Pentagon she's full of crap I've seen no evidence provided the Syria what have you seen in regard to attack helicopters well we do are in seeing it clearly you see we know that we know that the Assad regime is using helicopter gunships against their own people. I mean, we do know that. I don't have the blow-by-blow of exactly what day and when and what type of aircraft they're using. Frankly, the type of airframe is immaterial.

52:12 that they are using helicopter gunships. He's like, this is state crap for you. It doesn't matter. It could be American. That's not the point. They're using them. Actually, he may be indicating it is. Thank you. Against their own people is intolerable, unacceptable, and just further evidence of the degree to which they're willing to kill their own people for twisted ends. And the claim that Russia is supplying these helicopters, that would be immaterial? I didn't say that, Mick. I said I haven't seen reporting that indicates the Russians are supplying helicopters. Okay, so he's not seeing it. Now, you notice he said our partners in Russia. The reason why is the Russian firm that is supplying helicopters to Syria

CHAPTER 14 / 44 Discussion

U.S. Military Contracts for Russian Helicopters in Afghanistan

The U.S. Department of Defense continues to purchase helicopters from a Russian firm to supply Afghan security forces, despite Senator John Cornyn's objections. This creates a diplomatic paradox where the U.S. buys hardware from the same supplier providing equipment to the Syrian regime.

afghanistan· senator john cornyn· military-industrial complex· russian helicopters· rosoboronexport

52:57 the Americans, we are buying the same helicopters to supply to the Afghan security forces. And this is the deal and we can't change that because this is the military-industrial complex you're hearing here. And even Lucifer Hillary Clinton is not powerful enough to break a deal set up between huge government contracts. This is not going to happen as is evidenced And this is a very funny clip where the major general is asked to go on the record about the use of El Diablo. Yes, we understand the question he's asking.

53:41 But right now, the only legal way, the only method available to us is through this particular contract. But you're going to be exploring other ways to do it. I'm not going to respond to a member of Congress here at a press conference. We got... This is Cornyn had basically, Senator Cornyn had sent a note saying, hey man, you got to stop buying the helicopters from the Russians for the Afghans. And these guys are saying, who are you, shithead? We own you, bitch. You can't tell us what to do.

54:30 You know you're doing a deal with the devil basically. I want you on the record. I want you to say on the record Yes, we're doing a deal with the devil. Let's see if he's stupid enough to fall for that trap. He wants you on the record. He wants me on the record, yeah. I will crush you, you stupid fool. I don't, I don't, uh... I don't like to make deals with any devil here. We're not buying helicopters for the Syrian regime. We're buying helicopters in support of the Afghan Air Force. Yay! There we go. Can I follow up on this? Okay. And it just goes on and on and on. Yeah, these little press conferences like this are always better. And what's interesting to me is that the reporters are much more aggressive. Yeah, we are. You know, the thing, of course, we always have to remember is that with the press, the White House

55:22 a Is that the military, you know, we just sold, this past year the United States sold 50 billion dollars worth of hardware to other countries. That's the business we're in. That is our business. And these guys run the show, or at least they are the spokeshole for the show, and nothing is going to stop them. What, so the Syrians are killing people with the same helicopters we buy from the Russians? So what's your point? What's your problem? You know, people kill people, not helicopters.

CHAPTER 15 / 44 Discussion

Victoria Nuland and Yugoslavia Model for Syria Intervention

Victoria Nuland suggested the U.S. might bypass the UN Security Council for intervention in Syria, citing the 1999 NATO bombings of Yugoslavia as a precedent. This strategy would allow for military action without a formal UN resolution if a humanitarian massacre is declared.

victoria nuland· united nations· yugoslavia· nato· syria

56:10 And it's just shut up. You know, so the morality thing is not playing out and that's not going to change. However, as we continue on the quest to understand how this is going to play out, Here we go, Victoria Nuland explaining once again what the strategy is going to be to bypass the United Nations Security Council to start bombing. We are going to have to go back to the Security Council and keep talking. So we want to make the Security Council work, but it takes all players to make it work. Well, the Russians, officials, diplomats, analysts, and so on, they all seem to be concerned that we may have a deja vu of what happened in 1999 in Yugoslavia.

56:57 Is that something that the United States might consider, use the massacre that occurred actually to bypass the Security Council? MS. NULAND Again, let's not get ahead of where we are in the diplomacy. We have had lots of good – we've had lots of bilateral conversations, we've had lots of multilateral conversations. We're going to have this G20, which is not only an opportunity for the bilateral conversation we talked about, we also have a lot of the key leaders who've been interested in Syria there together at that meeting. So I looked it up and I could not believe my eyes. The NATO bombings of Yugoslavia occurred without a United Nations Security Council resolution. I didn't know that. They had bypassed it because we can't wait.

57:46 to coin a phrase, there's massacre going on, genocide. Yeah, no, I remember this. I mean, if you really look at the history of all these little dinky wars, only George Bush was the one that ever goes to Congress and gets people to agree to do it. Interestingly enough, huh? Yeah, no, Bush is the only one that did that. I mean, he did it with both Bushes. The other one, the HW, he did it when he took on the Kuwait situation. But Clinton? No. This is Clinton right out of Clinton's asses. Do it.

CHAPTER 16 / 44 Discussion

Sergey Lavrov Op-Ed on Syrian Sovereignty

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov published an op-ed criticizing Western media for "black and white propaganda" regarding Syria. Lavrov questioned how the Assad regime could remain in power for over a year without significant public support despite heavy international sanctions.

sergey lavrov· russia· syria· propaganda· sanctions

58:22 And it is. And have a good song and dance is the real, oh we have to otherwise people are, genocide, genocide. And meanwhile Lavrov, foreign minister for Russia came out with an op-ed which was distributed widely. I think he wrote it, I don't think it's a translation, I think he actually wrote it in English. I think he's pretty well educated. I'll just quote a little bit from it. Unfortunately, qualified and honest analysis of developments in Syria and their potential consequences is still in short supply. Quite often it is replaced by primitive images and black and white propaganda. For several, yes, YouTube, for several months, major international media outlets have been reproducing reports about the corrupt dictatorial regime ruthlessly suppressing the aspiration of its own people to freedom and democracy. It seems, however,

59:11 that the authors of those reports did not bother asking themselves how the government could manage to stay in power without public support for more than a year, despite the extensive sanctions imposed by its main economic partners. Why did the majority of people vote for the draft constitution proposed by the authorities? Why, after all, have most Syrian soldiers remained loyal to their commanders? If fear is the only explanation, then why did it fail to help other authoritarian rulers? So he's making some sense. He's making some real sense there. And he's basically saying this is bull crap. So I'm just waiting for the for the green screen movie, for the big false flag that Newland is predicting. I actually expected Friday like a massacre, a massacre planned. She's telling us where.

1:00:03 And maybe I should book my trip for after the massacre. We got our massacre planning committee here. Yeah, we're all man. Jim hasn't shown up. What are we gonna do? We haven't got a quorum. Hello KLM. Could I book a trip to Damascus after the massacre, please? Is that... Do you have any seats available post-massacre? Wow, what a theater, ladies and gentlemen. I bet you, I bet you Damascus rocks. I'll bet you it's like you gotta go to the nightclub nightclub hookers revitalize your career as a as the VJ you know when Mickey said she said that the MTV stuff I did is probably now just airing in Syria probably doing older in person hey hey hey hey hey let me like we got a sign my book

CHAPTER 17 / 44 Discussion

State Department Backtracking on Refurbished Syrian Helicopters

The State Department clarified that the Russian helicopters mentioned by Hillary Clinton were likely old units being returned after refurbishment, rather than new shipments. Journalists questioned why this distinction wasn't made initially, leading to a tense exchange during a press briefing.

victoria nuland· hillary clinton· refurbished helicopters· rosoboronexport· media accountability

1:00:55 It'd be awesome. Yeah, make sure to bring a sharpie with you. They're just catching up there. They're like, hey man, it's cool that Beck is number one this week on the top 20 countdown. Oh wow, wow, wow. So anyway, I won't play the clip. There's another clip you can find the show notes 418.na show notes.com Newland trying to talk her way out of the, the actually I'll play the beginning because she's such a, Now they're backtracking because the Pentagon basically said, hey, shut up. Okay, shut up. This is our deal. You can't ruin our deal. You can do whatever you want. Don't use our deal as a part of your little plan over there. We don't give a crap what you do. The suggestion has been made over the course of the last 24 hours that the helicopters that the Secretary was talking about on Tuesday were in fact not new but maybe refurbished or old and refurbished. Is that correct?

1:01:49 Well, I think you've seen in the press that the exporter of these helicopters has spoken to the fact that they have been refurbishing them. This is Russ Aberon. That means like a second-hand iPhone or something? You know, airframes and helicopters, they get refurbished. You may be flying in an airframe from 1975. they don't necessarily all expire within a couple years. You know, they put new interiors, new engines, every bolt is eventually replaced. So it's just, you know, it's a normal part of the contract. An export. From our perspective, as you know, the secretary didn't state at any point that they were new. She simply said... Oh, because she didn't say they were new. ...that she was concerned about the supply of helicopters moving from Russia to Syria.

1:02:39 whether they are new or whether they are refurbished, the concern remains that they will be used for the exact same purpose. So hold on a second. So basically they're all admitting that Hillary blatantly lied. Yes, that she messed up. What a stunning discovery. Ha! She's a liar? No! Current helicopters in Syria... Matt, the grouchy old guy, he has none of it. I like him. ...are being used and that is to kill civilians. But she said that it would be a dramatic escalation. So you say... I mean, I'm semi-sympathetic to the argument that reintroducing aircraft that have been missing or haven't been on in action for several months is an escalation, but it would be even a more dramatic...

1:03:28 Escalation if they were new helicopters if in fact Syria was adding to its fleet would it not? These are helicopters that have been out of the fight for some six months or longer now. She's an aviation expert She's like digging the hole deeper and deeper are freshly refurbished freshly refurbished look at has actually it has ios 5 on it now and The question is simply what one expects them to be used for when one sees what the Karn fleet's being used for. So your position would be that the Russians should either delay or just cancel the return, or sending them back? The Secretary said very clearly yesterday that we've been asking the Russians for months to consider suspending their military relationship with Syria in all of its elements. But I mean in terms of these specific helicopters?

1:04:18 Absolutely. Why did you not disclose when you asked for it? Yeah, now they're asking for the disclosure. Now she's in trouble. On Tuesday and on Wednesday that what she was talking about were in fact old refurbished. Old. When you say old, when you think of an old Russian helicopter, you think of like the clunky ones, you know, the huge, like the... Yeah, like a big Huey or something. No, no, no. What's the... Is it not Antonov? Ah, I should know this. Sukarov. The Sikorsky. Oh, okay, well it's an American brand, but you know. Go on, let's just play the clip. Helicopters. Well, I'm not going to speak to where her information comes from, but in the context of... I did not ask you where her information comes from. I asked you why you did not disclose on Tuesday or Wednesday that these were refurbished helicopters.

1:05:12 Well, it's we was very clear that we had accurate information here. It's not incumbent upon us to give a accounting of where all of our information comes from but now we're in the context of the supplier of these helicopters having confirmed it itself themselves. Well, again you're not... Harshad, I think I've answered the question. No, no, but you're not answering the question. The question is not where you got the information. Shut up! Shut up! Well, that's enough. I've had enough. This is funny. They're just backtracking. These guys will never make it to the big leagues in the White House, Press Corps. They won't be in the West, yeah, in the West Wing.

1:05:49 Too much trouble. Troublemakers. That's what they do. They put these guys, the guys who are the really good, you know, guys who just drill in and drill in and drill in. They've put them into these pools that do these sorts of press conferences that get no coverage by the mainstream media and they can go nuts asking embarrassing questions and they do it apparently, obviously, and nothing comes of it. And except for the fact that they'll never get moved up. In fact, this may be like a training ground, might be like the farm clubs. This is a guy with a really easy, this is an easy going guy. He asks the right questions. He makes us look good. Let's push him up a little bit. Yeah. I like the Matt guy though. He knows he's going nowhere. He knows his career is shot. So he just sits there with his, you know, styrofoam cup of coffee. Look, I don't understand why you just didn't, you didn't say it, man. It's like, isn't it completely untrue? I failed to understand. He's always making trouble. I think I've answered the question.

1:06:46 Well, no, you haven't answered the question. Really? Perfect. I like it. Unfortunately, you never see this on television. You have to resort to a podcast. Why are you always like that's a question I do it on the blog, too. Why are you getting this information from a podcast? Ask yourself yourself. Why? What's going on? But you know, you go to your office party or the cocktail party or hanging out with the boys, you know, drinking some beers, you can sound pretty educated.

CHAPTER 18 / 44 Discussion

Fox News Coverage of Syrian Regime Change

Former Ambassador John Price told Fox News that regime change in Syria will be difficult and unlikely to result in a traditional democracy. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton continues to advocate for the Kofi Annan peace plan while emphasizing the urgency of ending violence in the region.

fox news· john price· hillary clinton· kofi annan· syria

1:07:22 You just gotta be careful. Don't lay it on. I was watching Fox and they brought in a couple of stooges to discuss what's going to happen in Syria and I got the biggest kick. They had an ex-ambassador John Price, who I've never seen. I know of the guy and I've never seen him on Fox before. ask him for a summation of what's going on in Syria and he apparently just didn't like his answer and they cut it remedial to this other guy, Colonel something or other who's like anyone who's out of the military and they had to retire as a colonel and not a general. You know, couldn't have been that good. But just listen to this summation of what's gonna happen in Syria with John Price

1:08:10 who is an ex-ambassador to the Middle East, one of the Middle Eastern countries, maybe Syria. Former US Ambassador John Price, good to see you Ambassador, thanks for being here. Let me come to you first Mr. Ambassador. Is there anything we can do in the short term, this week, to change the situation on the ground or are we stuck with what is going to be a month's and possibly years long process here? I don't think there's anything that could be done in the short term. I think you're dealing in a fight that's been going on for a long time and we're in the middle of it. I think the regime change is going to be very difficult and I think that the end plan is not going to be an outcome of democracy as we see it. I think that's a cliche. And so nothing in the short term. You saw that in North Africa and you've got destabilization and chaos there and what you've seen up there you will see coming here as well.

1:09:04 Colonel, we're in the middle of it in the sense of what happens in Syria really matters. He just looks at the guy and goes, Colonel, he doesn't even acknowledge what he said. I think we just lost your audio. That's not what you're supposed to say. You're supposed to have, you know, well, Hillary gave the message. You gave the message. What was it? Here, this is the message. Our strategy is very clear. It's very clear. Hold on. I need to do my... Followed by uh. Oh a lot of uhs. The message is clear. Our strategy is very clear.

1:09:54 We want to see an end to the violence and we want to see the full implementation of Kofi Annan's plans, including the political transition so that the people of Syria have the same opportunity that the people of the Republic of Korea or the United States have to choose their own leaders and to build their own future. Who made you God? Who cares? Let them do whatever they want because it's not about that. And now she's gonna try it. Here come the uhs. When she's like, uh, uh. Uh, and the work is urgent because as you know, uh, the Syrian government continues to, uh, uh, uh, uh,

1:10:36 attack attack its own people she couldn't fit what is it what were they doing again what was the what was the lie we made up there oh yeah no um attacking right yeah its own people and the bloodshed bloodshed has not ceased Here it comes. And we have to do everything we can to end the violence. Okay, everything we can do. Do all that we can do. We're gonna mess you up, bitches. We're coming in. Hellfire! Hellfire! I just have to make the timing right. I have to go after the massacre and before the hellfire missiles.

1:11:17 I'm sure there's a window of opportunity in there, John. I'm so happy you recommend I go. I'm so happy you recommend I go. Damascus is not going to be anywhere around Damascus. No, it's the suburbs. The suburbs of Damascus. Yeah, you're not going anywhere around there. Just get into Damascus, do the show, go shopping, get a little shopping out of the way. Do a little sightseeing, take a few photos, have an escort so you can be escorted. Can I take this photo? Can I take that photo just in case? Now you're presuming my escort is female. Did you just say that you can escort? Get the hell out of there. What? You just said ask your escort. She'll be able to tell you. Did I say that? Yeah, I think you did. Let me see. Ask your escort and she'll be able to tell you. Hot looking Syrian babes. Look for Miss Universe Syria. That's the one you go for.

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Syrian Cultural Imagery and Online Search Results

A brief exploration of online image search results for Syria reveals a mix of political figures and cultural imagery. The hosts comment on the juxtaposition of war reporting with images of daily life and fashion in Damascus.

damascus· syria· internet search· cultural stereotypes· hillary clinton

1:10:36 attack attack its own people she couldn't fit what is it what were they doing again what was the what was the lie we made up there oh yeah no um attacking right yeah its own people and the bloodshed bloodshed has not ceased Here it comes. And we have to do everything we can to end the violence. Okay, everything we can do. Do all that we can do. We're gonna mess you up, bitches. We're coming in. Hellfire! Hellfire! I just have to make the timing right. I have to go after the massacre and before the hellfire missiles.

1:11:17 I'm sure there's a window of opportunity in there, John. I'm so happy you recommend I go. I'm so happy you recommend I go. Damascus is not going to be anywhere around Damascus. No, it's the suburbs. The suburbs of Damascus. Yeah, you're not going anywhere around there. Just get into Damascus, do the show, go shopping, get a little shopping out of the way. Do a little sightseeing, take a few photos, have an escort so you can be escorted. Can I take this photo? Can I take that photo just in case? Now you're presuming my escort is female. Did you just say that you can escort? Get the hell out of there. What? You just said ask your escort. She'll be able to tell you. Did I say that? Yeah, I think you did. Let me see. Ask your escort and she'll be able to tell you. Hot looking Syrian babes. Look for Miss Universe Syria. That's the one you go for.

1:12:02 You know, Trump's behind it. They'll all be good-looking. I'm just looking at some YouTube images. Wow. Whoa! Do this. Hot-looking Syrian babes and go to images. Okay. Whoa! Man alive! Damascus, here I come, baby! Funny how they got a picture of Lucifer Clinton in the middle of that. That's kind of funny. Do you have the same page? I'm looking. Look, there's two lesbian Syrians. Nice.

1:12:38 Wearing what is Hillary doing? Look down below you got two Syrian babes wearing bacon bikinis. I don't see that That sounds very wrong in an Arab Arab country. Yeah, something really wrong with that, but these girls are beautiful There's a couple here that are Wow. Why is Angelina Jolie in this thing? Oh Where is she? There's a bunch of guys in here. Oh, I like, you know, I'm bi-curious. Yeah. Maybe I shouldn't mention that over there, huh? I wouldn't. No, maybe not a good idea. There's Hillary again. It's funny. Babe Ruth. What is he? What's this picture? Babe. That's where it's from, babe. Meanwhile, amidst all of this, I got called out as a Holocaust denier on Twitter.

CHAPTER 20 / 44 Discussion

Holocaust Denial Accusations and Media Independence

One of the hosts addresses a Twitter accusation of being a Holocaust denier after questioning the authenticity of certain public figures. The incident is used to illustrate why the show operates without commercial advertisers, preventing "crazies" from targeting sponsors over controversial speech.

twitter· holocaust· elie wiesel· media independence· advertising

1:13:31 Yeah, I saw that. That really pissed me off. You've never been a Holocaust denier? No, some guy said because I... Because you questioned Ely and what his name was? No, no, no. Worse, because I said... I did a quick Google search. By the way, my Google search is who really is and then fill in the name. If you just do the name, then you get bios that are written by people. I'm not interested in that. I'm interested in other opinions. And there's a whole bunch of links questioning his authenticity. And we actually said, well, we're not going to talk about that because it's not about that. This was about setting up Syria as in the same way the Yugoslavia was set up. And this guy's probably shilling to make that happen. And then you can say lots of stuff about me. But when you're going to say you're a Holocaust denier, screw you, douche. Piss me off. It really made me angry. And can I just say one thing?

1:14:24 First of all if anything, I'm certainly not a denier of the Holocaust but just on the Holocaust Maybe it's time that there's no Jewish exclusivity on the Holocaust anymore, okay? There were millions of homosexuals, gypsies, other people who were just belligerent. And oh, by the way, how about the Netherlands, Rotterdam, which was bombed by the Germans. That's not a Holocaust, that doesn't count. How about the Japanese that got bombed by the Americans? It's all part of the Holocaust. World War II was one big Holocaust. Calls World War one yes, and so it's full pot all of this stuff is a holocaust so Jonathan Rose blow me Sick and tired of that yeah apparently it's it hurt me. Yeah, you know hurt me because yeah, yeah, once I was your Holocaust tonight didn't deny the Holocaust I said this guy may be Maybe full of crap. I don't know he's a man. Oh

1:15:27 If you Google that all those links with the Holocaust denial sites, you're a Holocaust denier. Yeah, that's a very interesting logic that we have to deal with. Yeah, that's what I have to deal with. But and he also, you know, he immediately goes after donations. I'll never donate. I'll never tell anyone about this show. This is why we do the show without commercials, because you get crazies like this who then go after your advertisers. That's exactly why we can do whatever we want. Because you know, one guy doesn't donate, so what? 98% doesn't donate. It's not that he's a big donor that I know of. No, I don't think he's ever donated. He says he's never donated. Because he'll never donate to a Holocaust denier. Yeah, that's what he said!

1:16:09 Annoying it's annoying, but yeah, no that's actually the reason that we have to do the show the way we do it because Then you're right. That's exactly what would go on some guy goes off half cocked didn't like Something you said and the next thing you know he's going after your advertisers making a big fuss. Yeah In fact I'm expecting that that even though there's no advertisers the I'm expecting that from the the interesting Bill Maher thing you heard this no no no What's this? I don't know anything about it Bill Maher, you know, continues doing his show online. And, you know, he just drops off. But it's still the show. It's the same sitting around talking. Overdrive. Yeah, I guess that's what it's called. So they caught him with this one. Now, mainstream media refuses to even deal with this so that you'll not hear it anyplace else, but you're going to hear it on the No Agenda show. And as somebody pointed out on one of the right-wing shows, if this was any kind of, if it was anybody but

CHAPTER 21 / 44 Discussion

Bill Maher and Mormonism Comments on Overtime

Comedian Bill Maher criticized American exceptionalism and the Mormon religion during a segment of his show. Maher claimed that the U.S. is a "stupid country" and that Mormonism's belief in an "American Jesus" appeals to nationalistic tendencies.

bill maher· mormonism· american exceptionalism· hbo· john waters

1:17:06 left-wing apologist, they would be all over this because this is pretty bad. But play the Bill Maher clip that took place I think it was just over this last Friday. Would it be better if the country just got over this notion of American exceptionalism? Oh I think it would. I mean this is This is, by the way, this is one reason why I say, and people laugh at me, but I always say, in a hundred years, this country will be Mormon. It's a stupid religion and a stupid country. They were made for each other. And I tell you... One of the things Americans are gonna love about Mormonism when they find out about it is that first of all Jesus is an American Jesus is an American in Mormonism and they love the idea that that Mormons embrace more than anybody that we are the super-duper star-spangled best country ever and if we have any flaw it's that we make other countries feel bad because our awesomeness is so overwhelming

1:18:07 It's not funny. I mean... Not funny, they're all giggling. The group was, I think, Waters, the director, that, you know, a vague director, and a couple other liberals, you'd have to look it up, but yeah, they're all giggling as he was doing this. John Waters, you mean? With the mustache? Yeah, John Waters. Yeah, like that. And he's just yucking it up with this, you know, he's wearing a pink suit and he's looking so dapper. But yeah. Yeah, it's like, it's not funny. You know people get into a rhythm, it's like... It's not funny but let's face reality. It's incredibly bigoted. Well yeah, yeah. Well you know I guess he's pretty cocksure that Obama's going to get re-elected and that's why he thinks he can do it. He's got a million bucks riding on that. Yeah he does. He's thinking I'm smoking joints in the Lincoln bedroom.

1:19:05 So, yeah, whatever. It doesn't bother me. I never watch the guy anymore. And just because I found the humor to be, there was just, I can laugh, you know, I can laugh about any joke about anybody, but that was just not funny. I just didn't, you know, whatever. I think when you're there in the audience and the timing of his cadence and the energy. Well, they also sweetened the laughs. Yeah, and they put up a flash, flash a sign, you know, laugh, laugh slaves. You must laugh now. Time to laugh. So, Euro 2012, John, very interesting things are happening. As you know, we always predict the outcome of the huge sporting events because... Oh yeah, here we go. ...I believe they're rigged. And you can still put in your votes there at euro2012.curry.com. I brought this rigged thing up a couple of times in public forums. Bad idea. No, no, it's not rigged. It's real, man.

CHAPTER 22 / 44 Discussion

Euro 2012 Football Rigging Theories and Teletext Glitch

A theory suggests the Euro 2012 football tournament is rigged to manage public sentiment during the European debt crisis. Evidence cited includes a Dutch Teletext glitch that published match results and goal scorers hours before the games were actually played.

euro 2012· teletext· greece· germany· football

1:20:04 Yeah. So unbelievably on the on the E and by the way, the news was reporting this in exactly this way on the eve of total annihilation of Greece, they beat Russia one to zero, which is unheard of. So of course, you know, that was a gimme like, hey, Let these guys win, give them a little boost, maybe it'll influence the vote. Okay, we'll do that. But Russia now actually eliminated, this is interesting news, and the Czech Republic beat Poland. Now I know nothing about football, about the footballs, but here's what happened this morning in Gitmo Nation Lowlands which was hilarious.

1:20:46 So, Teletext, the Teletext system, if you're not familiar and you're not in the United States of Europe, television there has a text-based overlay system. And every television channel can broadcast, I think it's like up to 900 pages of text. And it's kind of like old... Right, you hit a button and it shows up on the screen. Yeah, like old Commodore 64 or VIC-20 graphics. Yeah, exactly. It's like huge pixels. And people use this. In the Netherlands they use it a lot. It is kind of their their old school information system and when something's going on they hit that instead of the web I guess. And this morning, two games that have not yet been played, they already had the results. And not just the results, but who scored the goal and in which minute. So the Netherlands-Portugal game, which is to be played still today I think, 2-0 for the Netherlands. Perse scores in the 41st and the 80th minute.

1:21:48 Germany Denmark the game has also not been played Germany wins 2-0 Gomez scores the goals in the 36th and the 73rd minute. How weird is that? Wow, and you tell me it's not rigged. It's down to the minute. So anyway, I think It's still early to call it. I want it because the Netherlands for a weird Calculation still has a shot to progress through to the next round if they don't I'm thinking Germany Greece might be a very interesting in fact someone on euro 2012 curry calm gave the the following hypothesis Germany versus Greece looks to be quarterfinals Which is huge distraction for the Greek elections this weekend and new government will be created during the quarterfinals which Germany will win because after elections there's no need for Greeks to be there and

1:22:43 Germany vs. Italy in the semi-final. Germany will win. Turn tournament is set to be Germany versus Spain in the final which Germany will win a Distraction over the recent 100 billion euros and he says this makes sense because in this scenario Joe's this takes no sense Well, listen in this scenario Germany will beat Greece Italy and Spain on their way to title all countries in trouble which they have to bail out so we have a Germany first Spain second Italy third which is reminiscent of the three fascist states during the 30s depression and Come on, that's a good one. You know, we did this before with the World Cup or whatever one it was. Yeah. And we always, and the basis for our predictions, and I'm going to stick with it, with that old theory, you can change if you want. No, no, I haven't called it yet. It was a way to make the public feel less inclined to riot and kill everyone. Yeah. So I'm still with Italy. I'm staying with Greece. Really?

1:23:41 Wow. Well, and I think Greece will beat Germany in those semi-finals and move on and I think the finals probably will be Greece and Spain. You don't think Italy? I think Italy's out. I don't think they're in bad enough shape to win anything. This has to be Greece and Spain. Italy, oh no man, Italy is in horrible shape. Okay, I'm putting it down. You're thinking Italy, Germany is going to be the final choice. Let's agree we can still change and we have to evaluate. But right now I'm thinking Germany, Italy. I think Italy is the country that needs it. Because by the time this thing comes rolling around, you really still think Greece? Yeah. And you know, let me just think about that.

CHAPTER 23 / 44 Discussion

European Debt Crisis and Italian Civil Unrest

Protests against Italian Prime Minister Mario Monti turned violent in Bologna as unemployment rates hit a ten-year high. Simultaneously, Moody's downgraded five Dutch banks, and former UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown warned that both France and Italy would soon require massive bailouts.

mario monti· italy· bologna· greece· moody's

1:24:26 That is a possibility. So depending on the election results today, let's just see if there's any news on that yet. I'll tell you what's going to happen with the election results. It's going to be the same thing. This will not be resolved for six months to a year. They've been stalling since we began doing the DH Unplugged show. Horowitz and I, we need more as well. It looks like things are going to change this weekend. It's like a year ago. No, but this is why I'm on board with what you're saying because for that very reason, because the Greek vote And here it is, Greek vote too close to call, of course. So because of this, because it will take a long time, it will carry us through the finals of Euro 2012. In that case, you may actually be right with that prediction. Let me see what they've got here. Betters take notice, although we do not encourage wagering on this show. The polls say, oh my goodness,

1:25:18 The two parties, oh, this is exactly what we're talking about, have pulled between 27 and 30 percent. So we have the far, the New Democracy, who are pro bailout but renegotiation. And we have Syriza, which is anti-bailout, no renegotiation, pound sand. They're between 27 and 30 percent. So neither one have majority, exactly like we said at the top of the show. So this is going to be more finicky. You're right. Greece, maybe Greece for the win, John. You could be right on that. You could be right. If Greece resolves it, then they gotta flip it to Italy because Italy will need it. I don't think it's gonna be... I think it'd be Spain then. Hmm. Italy... I mean... I don't see Italy in the... Well, I'll tell you why. Here, listen to this. This came in this morning. Here we go.

1:26:03 Demonstrations against Italian Prime Minister Mario Monti's visit to Bologna turned violent as protesters scuffled with police and tried to break through a security cordon. There's growing dissatisfaction with the technocrats' handling of Italy's economy, which includes high borrowing costs for the country and the biggest unemployment rate in over 10 years. As protesters clashed with police outside another venue in Milan, Monty said, we stepped away from the precipice before with the contribution of the political forces and the sacrifices of Italians, but the hole is growing bigger and it may swallow us up. We're again in crisis. The hole is growing bigger. Hey, look out John, there's a hole there. So the Italian slaves are getting uppity.

1:26:51 Well, we can't have that. Yeah, well I haven't been following that. You might be right. I'll consider it. Well, just another Euroland news. Moody's has downgraded five Dutch banks. This is why I initially thought, wow, the Netherlands really needs this because that's a powder keg over there. Yeah, but they're so passive about everything. They don't need to be assuaged. And another thing about the lowlands, big news report. Apparently, according to the Greek restaurant association. More and more often, Dutch people go into a Greek restaurant in the Netherlands and refuse to pay and say, no, we already paid through the EU. That's pretty rank. That's bad. I'm sorry, man. We already paid through the EU. I'm not paying your stupid bill. That is I mean, this is that can lead to problems. This is why maybe we need to calm that down a little bit.

1:27:46 Egan Jones has cut France. So what Egan Jones is doesn't really matter I think Moody's is what it is, but they've cut the French banks Gordon Brown came out and said France and Italy will need a bailout so Italy is the big one. They're almost at the what was it called the the sacred seven or something like that or the suicide 7% I think is what bankers are calling it now when your bonds hit 7% and you're dead for some reason and Yeah, for some reason. Nobody knows why but... Because you have to borrow too much money doesn't make your books balanced at all. Right. So let's do our break and then because I got some other stuff I want to deal with. Oh actually before we do that... Oh whoops okay yes. I just picked this up that you know C-SPAN has been doing a lot of commencement speeches.

CHAPTER 24 / 44 Discussion

Sam Palmisano Johns Hopkins Commencement Speech

Former IBM CEO Sam Palmisano delivered a commencement speech at Johns Hopkins University after receiving an honorary doctorate. Palmisano went off-script to mention his previous degree from the institution, referring to his prepared remarks as a "script."

sam palmisano· ibm· johns hopkins university· commencement speech· honorary degree

1:28:40 Yes, which by the way, we're available for those as long as we get an honorary doctorate and a cool dress to wear. Yeah, you have to wear a dress. So anyway, I know you've been eager to do that. So I thought this was interesting. This is the Sam Pell Bassano, I can't pronounce his name right, but he's the chairman of the board, ex-CEO of IBM. And he goes up, he's at Johns Hopkins where he gets his honorary PhD and philosophy or whatever and he he made an interesting little comment well he was he went off he went off the prompter and ad-lib something and then he made this just even catch the cool wording here raspy voice

1:29:25 Ron, thank you very much for allowing me to address everyone today. The honorary degree is, I'm blown away by it, it's a little emotional. You know, I want the undergraduates to understand that my first honorary degree was a Bachelor of Arts from The Johns Hopkins University. That's not in the script, by the way. You'll see when I go back and forth. No, I don't get it. Script! Oh, when I go off the script? When you're giving a speech, if you're gonna read it especially, who calls it a script? Well, only people who are reading a script, I guess. That's what I was thinking. Anyway, I just thought it was funny. Exhilarating. Well, I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

CHAPTER 25 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Donor Recognition and Challenge Coins

Listeners from Toronto and Elmira are thanked for their contributions. The discussion touches on the use of No Agenda challenge coins and the potential for new donor rewards like pins or cufflinks to signify status within the community.

toronto· ontario· challenge coins· climate gate· donation

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1:31:03 for my birthday, however I was unable to come up with something witty to say so it languished for a while until I forgot all about it. So to atone for my procrastination I'm penalizing myself another $50 for the cause. You must atone! Sorry? You must atone! You must atone, $50. Please send out a shot of karma for my nephew and former producer Kyle. Thanks for the best podcast in the universe. Sure thing. You've got... karma. Thank you, Carrie. I wonder what your producer produced for you. I don't know. Robert Gold, Toronto, Ontario, we don't pry. $111.11. As a listener from episode one and a consistent donor to the various No Agenda monthly program shoutouts and birthdays, I was reminded today by my kids at a quickie Father's Day lunch which they paid for that if I added it all up I'd be close to knighthood. So today I made a one one one one one Father's Day donation towards my knighthood. I am within striking distance.

1:32:01 I'll self-account and top off over the next four months, but until then, I'm going to be a monthly benefactor of the almost a nightclub of the No Agenda Roundtable. Awesome. And by the way, we all have No Agenda Challenge coins, which we dutifully carry at all times. War on chickens, Karma, shout out, please, to Stu, Dara, Christina, and Jay for the Father's Day creps. And to y'all, happy Father's Day. The War on Chicken. You've got karma. I just wanted to point something out because he mentioned the the challenge coins and as we're ending our Our knighthood rings with maybe time to consider something new this is point out to me and we have several producers who work at agencies with three letters in fact a lot of them and There was a big brouhaha over JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon who was wearing his presidential cufflinks while he was in his

1:33:04 In his Senate hearing, did you read about this? No, but it wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, with the seal. Look what I'm wearing here, boys. So he has cufflinks emblazoned with the seal of the President of the United States. And he's literally holding his hands up and the picture is perfect. So here's what one of my insiders says. The Secret Service uses these pins for alerts as well. For example, if you wear a pin that doesn't have the right color for the event, you're a fake agent. Same deal with clearance badges. My source says these people need some new tricks. Oh, yeah, if you look on the back, they're all made in China. So I'm thinking maybe for our nights we give a set of pins or cufflinks, but pins probably so we have dames as well. And, you know, you have a code that you have to wear the right color on the right day. Otherwise, you get hit in the mouth.

1:33:58 Yeah, just a thought. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, exactly Justin Bauerly and rescue that's a great name for a town, California $100 can I get a climate gate shot by far the best jingle next to Clippity Club need a karma for new job opportunities? So he needs climate eight karma To the gate to the gate to the climate gate You've got karma. Tight. I like that one. That's a good combo. That is a good combo. Black Knight McTank in Playa del Rey in California, another $100. C-note for the P-M-G-G-M-I-C-K-G-W, karma for him posthumously. Please also for the Constitution, the listeners, knights and hosts, plus everyone getting hitched in July, bravo. Is there something we should have read?

CHAPTER 26 / 44 Discussion

Oryx Meat Sourcing and Exotic Game Cooking

The hosts discuss the possibility of purchasing a whole Oryx for meat, noting it costs approximately $1,000 and requires significant freezer space. The meat is described as a cross between venison and goat, with tenderloin medallions being a highly regarded delicacy in Southern Africa.

oryx· gemsbok· exotic meat· austin· texas

1:34:50 Oh, a C note. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay, got it. Duh. Sorry. He needs karma. Yes. For everyone. Everyone. And the Constitution. You've got karma. Chris Potter in Elmira, Ontario. $100 in the morning. I vote for Adam to take a show off for his wedding. Karma for AC and MH here. And for John to do a clip show. He's way behind in the clip of the day standings. A little practice couldn't hurt. Karma for JCD here. If I could have some karma for myself, I'd appreciate it. Thanks again for all the hard work you guys do. You've got.

1:35:29 You're inviting in El Diablo with your karma for the clip show. Good old Sir Nenninger, Port Jefferson, New York, came in with 7777. For Adams hitting Bunky Moon in the mouth and John saying the Oryx look tasty, send more karma. Ooh, I have an update on that. The Oryx? Yes. Karma. Okay, I'm all ears. I talked to my guy yesterday. The meat man. He shall go unnamed at the farmer's market here in Austin. And I said, hey man, can you get something for me? He says, yeah, yeah, what do you need? What do you need? Oryx, he said. Oh, I'd love to get some Oryx. $1,000 for a whole Oryx, he says.

1:36:09 That's not bad. No, but I don't have a freezer for a whole Oryx. Get a freezer. You can buy these little freezers. You have to have a freezer if you're living in Texas. There's also something else. Because you're going to be buying meat off the hoof. There's also something else. And you need a freezer. There's another problem. I don't have $1,000 to spend on Oryx. You're going to split it with him. It's only $500. So he says that you can't, it's very hard to buy it because he says all these damn greenies, he says the people on these hunting farms, they don't even sell it anymore. You have to find a buddy and get it because they give it to their employees, they eat it themselves because when they sell it there's just too much hassle. So they don't even want to sell it so you have to get it through a back door. But he says a grand?

1:36:52 and I'm good to go. But maybe I can split my half with someone else locally so Mrs. McInnerty can look at it. You know, believe me, it's worth it. If you can find a way to get half, because it's a big animal. It's not like we're talking about a goat. He said it's a really big animal. Yeah, it's a big animal so it's a lot of meat and it's going to be delicious but you should start shopping for a good freezer. We actually have two up in Port Angeles and I've got one here I should get a bigger one. Yeah, but you bought all that before the depression. Yeah, funny. So anyway, so I was looking into cooking Oryx. I sent you a little link to some Oryx, how you cook it. You cook it like dough. Oh, I didn't get that link.

1:37:34 It was a clip, it wasn't a link, it was a... I gave a cut and paste, you don't read my email, never mind. I did not get an email from you about Oryx. Yes. No. Yeah. No. I can find it now if you want me to. Yeah, it's in your draft box. Anyway, I'll... you have to apologize on the next show when I send it to you, say, look. So anyway, let me finish. So I've started thinking about these animals and what they're like in terms of cooking, because you kind of have to figure out how to cook them. You can't just, you know, do anything. It seems as if these are hoofed animals that like to climb around and do more. These are more like, these are somewhere between a venison like a gazelle and a goat. Because everyone describes the meat as it's like cooking goat. And people have to know that goat doesn't taste like what you think it tastes like.

1:38:24 Goat is a great great dish that we may have not been eating much in the United States because it's associated with poor Muslims and it's kind of a bigoted way of looking at it. But goat is like the mildest best tasting lamb you've ever had. Oh, I'm sorry. Here's your note. I apologize now. Oryx, this is from, here it is. I dined on Oryx, Gemsbok. In Southern Africa, several folks proclaim the best among the best eating. Oh, hmm. Okay. That's the different. That's the other Oryx. That's the one that's in New Mexico. Right. This isn't the Scimitar Oryx because those are extinct. Right. If you are ever so lucky, be decadent with the tenderloin saute, one-inch medallions lightly in butter and whip up a brown sauce with mushrooms. Oh my God. All right. Well, I'm gonna try it. Well,

1:39:18 It's expensive. Anyway, just one is it per pound though. Maybe it's maybe it's not as expensive as you think. It's a lot of pounds. I am living over 100 pounds of meat, which is five bucks a pound. And you get a bunch of Oryx hamburgers and can't you imagine having some buddies over and flying up some Oryx burgers? But I'll ask him if I can do it on layaway. Oryx burgers. Oryx burgers. Come on. Would you like some ketchup on your Oryx burger? How can you resist? Alright, let's move on. Moving ahead. Letter to Papagano. Groveland, Florida. 69-69. Hit the horn. Yay. Continues.

CHAPTER 27 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Bachelor Party and Global Donor Shout-outs

Donors from Florida, Colorado, and Saskatchewan are acknowledged. One donor mentions missing a bachelor party in Amsterdam due to travel timing at Schiphol Airport, while others request "karma" for various personal and professional endeavors.

amsterdam· schiphol airport· saskatchewan· north dakota· donation

1:40:09 I'm a regular $5 a month subscriber and the last big donation I made was in November so I thought it's time to make another contribution, keep up with the news assassination and Godspeed. By the way, John really butchered my name last time. Pop-agano? Pop-agno. Pop-agno. Yeah, pop-agno. That's what I did, I said pop-agano. That would be a betrayal. That's pretty much what you said this time too. Yeah, pop-agno. Papagno. It just looks like Papagano when you're looking at it from a distance. With his little help, Leonard now it sounds like Papagno. Now say it fast and you've got Papagno. He needs a little karma. You've got karma.

1:40:53 Okay, um, onward. Alejandro Vasquez in Westminister, Colorado, 6969. Here we go. Been listening for around a year and finally signed up for the $5 a month plan. I figured I could stand to contribute some more. Could I get a de-douching and some you-know-what karma? Yeah, yeah. What's you know what karma? Getting laid karma. It's a 69 donation. Oh, getting laid. Oh, duh. And a douche bag for my brother to give him this separate douche bag. Douche bag for his brother has been listed for the past few months. He's contributed even less than I have. We'll see how whatever the Hot Pocket Store makes if it makes it to Colorado. He's not, he's not, he's not officially a douche bag then if he's donated. I mean that's anyway. You can call anybody up for a douche bag. You've been de-douched.

1:41:39 You've got karma. Thank you so much. The two brothers can... They can fight forever, that's right, I agree. They can fight amongst themselves. And we look forward to that, to the Hot Pockets tour in Colorado. We're laying out the route, we just need... What is that? Oh yeah, a trailer. It's a minor little thing we need before we can embark. Yes, that needs to be, we have to push that harder. And to mention three-letter agencies, sir GQ here again, please give me some karma for a promotion board I have on Tuesday. Also call Sheena Hershey as an amazing girlfriend but an unbelieving douchebag.

1:42:20 Thanks gents. This is like he's like what he's like calling his girlfriend a douchebag and then donating $69.69 I mean I think that's gonna work it may be a wash my friend. Yes sir Jared Forrester and Regina rhymes with Saskatchewan. I just sent you and John a quick $69.69 for the show I feel bad that I won't be able to make it to your bachelor party I'll be in Amsterdam from June 30th to July 10th. Oh just Just misses it. Yeah, but can't afford to extend the trip. I understand that you land on the 10th So I'll say hello if I see you in sheeple people She pulled the airport bumping rings is also possible since customs didn't steal mine on the way into Canada if the hot pockets 2009 tour comes to North Dakota Montana I'll try to come to one of the meetings if you can please send the Netherlands and Germany some karma yes

1:43:11 North Dakota not so sure Montana definitely looking forward to it. You've got karma and bumping rings It's people Airport and here we go again Zachary Sims 69 69 if can I get a war on chicken shut up slave explosion Really? You've got karma. I don't think he wanted the karma. Oh, well he got it. Brian Watson, Raleigh, North Carolina at $69.69. Obama, he's not stalling yet. He needs some karma. I love the show, Sir Brian. Sir Brian. You've got karma. Chad Biederman in Round Lake, Illinois, $69.69. Hope to keep the chain alive with my $69.69 donation. John's

CHAPTER 28 / 44 Discussion

Mountain Lion Encounter and Backcountry Toilet Paper Story

A listener from Colorado shared a story about using the podcast to deter mountain lions while mountain biking. The anecdote involves a desperate search for toilet paper in the woods, which the listener interpreted as a sign to stop being a "boner" and finally donate to the show.

colorado· mountain lion· backcountry· toilet paper· anecdote

1:44:18 drunk donor readings so I love him so much that I was tempted to fake a drunk letter but I don't want to violate the integrity of the drunk donation process. Exactly. I don't think it's said enough, but I truly appreciate the solid information and analysis you provide us every week in your no agenda newsletter. And your Sunday programs make my Monday commutes bearable. Please give some karma to all those who donate less than $50 to the greatest podcast in the universe. Yes, that is a very good idea. Thank you for that. Nice. You've got karma. Yeah, a lot of people send in 10, 15, 20 bucks. 11, 11, 33. It all helps. Chad Christian in Colorado, 69, 69. Live in Colorado, avid mountain biker. When not in the backcountry alone, it concerns me somewhat that I'm sharing... This is actually a good story. You want to read this? It's actually quite entertaining. No, you read it. Okay. Well, out in the backcountry alone, it concerns me somewhat that I'm sharing habitat with mountain lions, which are basically 180-pound versions of typical house cats made of coiled steel and teeth.

1:45:18 The mental image of a giant tabby silently stalking me on razor-sharp extractable claws, waiting to pounce, makes it difficult to relax during these little excursions. As an amulet to being stalked, pounced upon, and disemboweled by one of these magnificent beasts, I have taken to playing the No Agenda Show through my iPhone speakers. Not only does this keep predators at bay, it's a great way to multitask. I get my RDA of uncompromised news from the best podcast in the universe, a little exercise and I get to keep my jugglers. So there I was riding along, enjoying the outdoors, listening to the show. It was the donation segment I was thinking that I needed to renounce my boner-dom and become a donor. At that very moment I was struck by one of the Mother Nature's combo

1:46:05 An imminent call, the gas station, coffee and green bean burrito... Combo. Combo that seemed so good only an hour before had turned on me. I got off my bike and made my way toward the bushes when I noticed something flicker in the sunlight. White paper! Could it be my good intentions of donating? Of course! I was about to receive some retroactive karma in the form of a stash of toilet paper that must have fallen from a hiker's pack. What luck! I reached out to grab the white wad of backcountry convenience and discovered to my horror that it had already been used and now only barely covered the ghastly remnants of some previous traveler's breakfast. Balls. I reversed course and found a less conspicuous place to dig a hole of my own and was saved from a rather uncomfortable ride home by some bandages from my first aid kit that served alternative purposes well enough. The message was clear, however. Donate or else.

1:47:02 I had been spared, but would I be so lucky again? It's not worth the risk. I'm crying. I'm literally crying. Michael Schumacher. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Chad needs some toilet paper karma. You've got karma. Oh, good writing, man. Yeah, it paints a picture. Good writing. Michael Schumacher and Rancho Cucamonga. 69-69. If Adam can hold it together, we'll continue. Jesse Cruz in Highland Park, Illinois. 69-69. In the morning, John and Adam, can I get a Huntsman Karma combo? Thanks. You've got Karma. Oh, here's one. Greg Stierle in Santa Monica. 55-55.

CHAPTER 29 / 44 Discussion

MTV Voice Audition and International Donor Credits

A donor from Santa Monica requested an MTV-style promo for a photography business. Other credits include a "slave journalist" in Florida and a donor in Goleta, California, who contributed on behalf of his girlfriend.

mtv· santa monica· st. petersburg· florida· vienna

1:48:01 Uh, can Adam read this in his MTV voice? Hit it. Okay, so basically they want a free promo, a free commercial. Although I've done all these, this will be the first paid one. The first audition that ever got paid. Hey everybody, it's Adam Curry here from MTV. If you want to be a star, go to surelystarphotography.com. Oh God. Yeah, no wonder. Radu Pertuk in Northbrook, Illinois, 5555. Fiver, fiver, fiver. Fiver, fiver, fiver, fiver! Radu from Chicago here. Give me a shout out to my dad and to you guys. Happy Father's Day and Adam quit smoking. Other than that, you guys rock. John, tell Adam to quit smoking. It's no good for you. Thank you. Yael Osso- what's... Oh brother. Osso-what? Yale. Yael. Osowski. Osowski. Yael Osowski. Yael Osowski.

1:48:52 St. Petersburg, Florida 5555. Last time I donated and asked for a job, Karma, it worked! I'm a full-time slave journalist. I found some toilet paper! I didn't get a job, but I found some toilet paper! Now I'm a full-time slave journalist paying off some odious debt in Gitmo Nation. Can I get a squirrel karma for my smoking hot Vietnamese girlfriend Melanie? Viennese, Viennese, not Vietnamese. Oh, Viennese. Oh, that's funny. Viennese girlfriend Melanie who is applying, I was wondering why the name would be Melanie if she's Vietnamese, applying to, she's going for an internship in Tampa.

1:49:29 Huh. And tell the slaves, everyone knows Tampa, knows why this made that noise, and tell the slaves to listen to Liberty in Exile on the No Agenda stream. That's a good show. Absolutely. So Squirrel Karma for you. Squirrel! You've got karma. I think a lot of the girls in Vietnam were named Melanie. Stephen J. Well nowadays, Stephen J. Nelson, Wheat Ridge, Colorado, double nickels on the dime, Michael Bowling, bowling, bowling, bowling. Goleta, California 5510 I feel like a blue-balled boner for too long not donating so here's a donation release all over you guys very funny keep up the good work assassinating the media and keep hitting people in the mouth propagating the formula down here in Santa Barbara can I get a karma for my smoking hot girlfriend Laura absolutely man no problem you've got karma send pictures

CHAPTER 30 / 44 Discussion

Rubik's Cube Speedcubing and Homeschooling Discussion

A young speedcuber named Charlie won a competition following a "karma" request on the show. This leads to a discussion about a viral video of a pianist solving a Rubik's cube while playing and a recommendation for homeschooling in San Francisco.

rubik's cube· speedcubing· homeschooling· tourette's· san francisco

1:50:25 Eon Prentice in Montreal, Quebec. Here's my value for value donation. I wanted to keep a Father's Day or give a Father's Day shout out to my friend Ryan and call him out as a non-donating douchebag. And he needs a shot at karma and a de-douching for himself. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. Colin Peterson bow Washington or bow one of the two 55 10 double nickels on the dime since his father's day I wanted to show my appreciation for the pod father it's pod father day and a man who served the role of sardonic a sardonic uncle for

1:51:06 forces everyone to reevaluate their positions. Thank you for all the hard work and insight. How about some karma for yourselves and all the dads and grads out there? On a related note, I want to provide some empirical evidence that no agenda karma works. Works wonders. In fact, it works without even being, without the obligatory bell ringing. A couple of months ago, you mentioned my name appropriately on the air as a donor, but missed my note since I had sent it separately by email. I didn't get any bell ringing. But all I got was the good karma I'd asked for anyway, including the unlikely bit about getting laid. It was an amazing week. So all you boners need to get with it and support the show. I assure you it will pay off in good karma.

1:51:49 You've got karma. Father's Day karma. Glenn Riccio, Sir Glenn Riccio to you, Charlottesville, Virginia, double niggles on the dime, happy Father's Day to all the deserving dads out there, including my own father, even though he's a douchebag for not listening to the show. I'm not gonna douchebag him. It's Father's Day. I'm letting him slide. Yeah, I'm gonna save the dish bag for later. You're gonna have to listen to the show. Some of these notes are too long, man. I'm not gonna read this whole note. Sir Ray Jacobson was donating drunk. So I would... By the way, this note is not really that long. It's the same note twice. Oh, okay. It's... Yeah, it's a tough work week I've been drinking. I had a bottle of Stone Cellars Cabernet.

1:52:33 Servin ding-dong from food lion. There's my problem dudes love your jingle Dvorak comm slash is the word org slash na but trying to spell to for act after drinking not happen and I tried some obvious domain names not working They're not even feffing register what the fuck so you all drunk in enough donators I'm made we simpler put cash into the formula All point to the donations page. If they be broke, you know, when I'm sober, I'll fix them. Okay. He needs karma. I think he needs something. Kyle Brandt. Karma. Kyle Bandy in Indianapolis, Indiana. Fifty double niggles on the dime. You guys do so much. Thanks for the in-depth reporting you do to bring us slaves to truth.

1:53:24 I'm living the American dream of just getting by this summer at the government internship digitizing about a half a million pages of records listening to past episodes of No Agenda helps my eight hours a day go by much faster. And in fact, I noticed my daily average number of pages scanned has increased from 4,500 to over 5,000 since I started listening to you two. Wow. There's a business deal here. I mean, we should, the government should be playing our stuff. Hold on a second. 5,000 divided by 60 is 83 an hour.

1:54:08 No, no. No, that's 83 hours. Yeah, you only... No, 5,000 a day, he works an eight-hour day. Right. You divide 5,000 by eight for the hourly production. Right. That's 625. Which is, uh, 10... 10 a minute? A minute. Wow. That seems like high. Yeah. Can I have some karma for myself and all the other Indiana University Hoosiers out there? And I'd like to call out AT&T for being douchebags. Douchebag! For providing crappy service at high prices. Thanks a lot. All the best. You've got karma. This is an interesting one from Anthony, uh...

1:54:50 Kobeli in Bismarck, North Dakota, double nickels on the dime. Karma works. In February I requested Rubik's Cube Karma for Charlie. That weekend he won first place in the 2x2 speedcubing at the Linden Open. Could Charlie get more Rubik's Cube Karma? Yes, of course. Good luck with that. You've got Karma. These things are on YouTube. I tend to stay away from it. Oh, you got to see the one-handed karma count or a karma the one-handed Rubik's Cube competition kid holds a they mix the cube up the kid holds it with one hand and within 60 seconds he solves the puzzle you have to see these these these clips you go home my god. I know that there's a my my cousins

1:55:42 Think I showed you that my cousin's video that he did for was it some muckety-muck college in DC He played a classical piece of music and did the Rubik's Cube at the same time kids amazing Any as Tourette's by the way? That's why we get along so well. Yeah, the kids like doing he's playing classical piano and then he in between the piece He's doing the Rubik's Cube and solves it right at the end of the of the song. It's I Yes, I've seen it entertaining Isn't it Dame Tanya? Yes, of course it's Dame Tanya. Dame Tanya, our actress, in residence actress in San Francisco, $55 to my wonderful husband, Shyster,

1:56:24 who does everything and gets none of the credit. I love you so much, thanks for being such a great dad and taking me, talking me into homeschooling our little human resource, your loving wife, Tonya." That's lovely. Now she, I would recommend homeschooling to people who have the time to do it. Certainly in California. But the kids have to sign up for it, by the way. Literally, I mean they have to say, okay I'll do it. And then otherwise you send them to the worst school in the world. KYC Israel and Palm Gardens, Palm Beach Gardens, Florida 54 no comment. Graham Ross Frisco, Texas. Another Frisco-ing. Frisco-ish. Maybe I can split the orgs with those guys. They'd probably be glad to. Yeah. $53 for Father's Day. I figured you need to be de-douche-ed, Dad. Happy Father's Day. Jeremy Ross love Graham. You've been de-douche-ed. Michael Mc...

CHAPTER 31 / 44 Discussion

Hot Pockets Tour Origins and Summer Travel Plans

The "Hot Pockets Tour" name originated from a joke about the President signing a guest book with the wrong year, suggesting his "program" had rebooted to 2008. The hosts plan a 3,000-mile summer road trip and are currently seeking a trailer for the journey.

hot pockets· barack obama· westminster abbey· road trip· trailer

1:55:42 Think I showed you that my cousin's video that he did for was it some muckety-muck college in DC He played a classical piece of music and did the Rubik's Cube at the same time kids amazing Any as Tourette's by the way? That's why we get along so well. Yeah, the kids like doing he's playing classical piano and then he in between the piece He's doing the Rubik's Cube and solves it right at the end of the of the song. It's I Yes, I've seen it entertaining Isn't it Dame Tanya? Yes, of course it's Dame Tanya. Dame Tanya, our actress, in residence actress in San Francisco, $55 to my wonderful husband, Shyster,

1:56:24 who does everything and gets none of the credit. I love you so much, thanks for being such a great dad and taking me, talking me into homeschooling our little human resource, your loving wife, Tonya." That's lovely. Now she, I would recommend homeschooling to people who have the time to do it. Certainly in California. But the kids have to sign up for it, by the way. Literally, I mean they have to say, okay I'll do it. And then otherwise you send them to the worst school in the world. KYC Israel and Palm Gardens, Palm Beach Gardens, Florida 54 no comment. Graham Ross Frisco, Texas. Another Frisco-ing. Frisco-ish. Maybe I can split the orgs with those guys. They'd probably be glad to. Yeah. $53 for Father's Day. I figured you need to be de-douche-ed, Dad. Happy Father's Day. Jeremy Ross love Graham. You've been de-douche-ed. Michael Mc...

1:57:18 McQuirk in Lexington, Massachusetts 5115 Michelle Gearing in Manhattan, Kansas 51 Happy Father's Day to my husband Justin Gearing. Please credit this donation to his future knighthood Bradford Gilean Gali and galleon galleon I'd say yeah Lake Charles, Louisiana 5050 Happy Father's Day gentlemen John you pronounce my name right the second time now try it with a French Creole accent I can't I don't that's an accent. I did years ago. I got in got in got in Yeah, that would be something like that. Oh, no, and I send some karma out to all the fathers out there You've got karma

1:58:06 Uh, Rosanna Opals. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, you missed Barry. Oh, sorry Barry. Barry Kroger in Greeley, Colorado. I used to know somebody who lived there. $50. Send out a shot of karma to all my dads, past and present. Well, all dads, not his. Just, oh, I'm sorry. You shot karma. Is your dad still alive? Who, me? Yeah, yours? No. That's a long time gone, lost dad. I'm sorry. Rosanna Oglesby, Richmond, Texas, $50. My last name is Oglesby. Okay. I'm donating for my husband Tyler in honor of his first Father's Day. I want him to know that I love him and I'm glad he's my husband and the father of our child. I want to get him started on his knighthood. Tyler is a great father to our seven-month-old human resource, Sierra. He also works so hard in retail to allow me to stay home with her. When he comes home he's always involved with her. The word cute was never in his vocabulary until we had her. Now he says it at least twice a day.

1:59:02 When trying to decide on a gift for Father's Day donating to you guys was the first thing that came to mind mostly because I don't need more stuff taking up space in my house. Also because he loves your podcast and listens to it religiously. Your podcast is one of the few I will listen to with him. I would love it if you could give him some job or us some job karma for him and some slide whistle for me. She loves it. We told our landlord we are moving in two months but the job he's trying to get hasn't come through. Hopefully karma will help. So she needs some karma. Thank you guys for what you do. You really do have the birth part person of your birth. Happy Father's Day to you both and all our other father stepfathers and father figures. Yeah, that's beautiful. That's a nice nice gift. It's the gift that keeps everything about this way. He might bump into a roll of toilet paper today. As you park in Park Ridge, Illinois, 50.

1:59:59 I'd like to say it's my third donation. You guys are worth every penny. I'm a stay-at-home dad who doesn't have the time to watch a lot of news, but I think your show gives me a great breakdown of the top stories. Yeah, try watching the news now. Of the week, keep up the great work. I also may have some selling my house karma. Happy Father's Day to everyone. You've got karma. Robin Hawk, Anna, Illinois. This is from a wife and mother. who forgot to send this in yesterday for her husband's birthday on the 15th, Raleigh Hawk and daughter's birthday on the 14th, Madeline Hawk. Do we have both those on there? Yeah, I think we do. No, we don't. I was going to put in Madeline Hawk. Interesting. Raleigh and Madeline. Oh, no, it's here. Yeah, I got it. It's here. Yeah. Okay. Jan Houghton in Kaiser, Oregon.

2:00:54 or Kieser as California might pronounce it, $50 in honor of two good... Dads Jared Ottinger and Mike O'Reilly both in Oregon's wonderful roll Willamette Valley. Hey, that's where I got my pilot's license Willamette. Oh Jeffrey Smith Alpena, Michigan $50 get a birthday and karma shout out from my son William who would turn one on Monday also about a karma shot for the NA dads out there as well as both of you to the best podcast in the universe you guys rock yeah sure thing man You've got karma From Huntersville, North Carolina we got Chris Witten 50. I wish I could donate more but this is what I can do for now. I'm a father of two in desperate need of some job karma and find a home karma since I have to be put out of my house in less than two and a half weeks. I'm a relatively new listener and had a question. What's the deal with the Hot Pockets tour? Why Hot Pockets?

2:01:49 I've often been asked questions about your show and this is probably the best way to get answers. Pay money, get answers. It's true. Okay, so we did a tour last year and we wanted to have a sponsor which of course we would never take but we decided it would be funny if we just said we were sponsored by Hot Pockets because they're so nutritional and tasty and it was the Hot Pockets 2008 tour because last year the president signed the Westminster Abbey ledger with Obama was here 2008 because of course they rebooted him and his program just reset and he was back on the campaign trail in 2008. So that's where it's from and it's basically us going around portions of America. We're set to do about 3,000 miles this summer right after we get back from our wedding. We need a trailer.

CHAPTER 32 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Knighting Ceremony and New Dames

Several donors are officially knighted into the No Agenda Roundtable, including the first "Dame" of the session. The ceremony includes the traditional bestowal of titles and instructions for receiving custom knighthood rings.

knighthood· dame· roundtable· challenge coins· donation

2:02:37 Chris Lewinsky, Sir Chris Lewinsky, Deux Sherwood Park, Illinois, $50. Jason Burke, Richmond, Texas, $50. And finally, Jason Forton in Geneva, Illinois, well, Illinois is the ins, $50. We want to thank all these people for helping produce this show and get it out. And we hope that you go to Dvorak.org slash NA to contribute to show 418 upcoming in advance of show 420, which will be interesting to see how that does. Should be next Sunday. Indeed. I also want to thank our friends over there at HealthySurprise.com. I got a box. Did you get your new box? Yeah. Yeah. There was at least one thing in there that was... What did you like? What did you like in the box? The apple chips. Oh, those are great. They also give us hemp seeds, which we've kind of become addicted to. Isn't it just marijuana seeds?

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CHAPTER 33 / 44 Discussion

Pharmaceutical Advertising and Side Effect Comparisons

A comparison of commercials for Celebrex and Cymbalta reveals a trend of increasingly severe side effect warnings, including the explicit mention of death. Despite the warnings, both drugs generate billions in annual revenue, supporting a theory that "scary" side effects do not deter sales.

celebrex· cymbalta· fda· side effects· pharmaceutical revenue

2:05:45 We have a special Father's Day shout out, so the show tends to go a little bit longer, which I'm quite okay with, obviously. Well, I got a couple of, kind of a, again, a little cultural stuff here I wanted to maybe get to. Sure, hit me. I ran into two new versions of the commercials for Celebrex and Cymbalta, which are the competitive drugs for arthritic people. And I'm trying to decide... Which one is better? Well, there's two of them. Now, and this is interesting because you have a theory. If we can find, we got to find the sales figures for these two. Because if your basic premise, which I'm subscribed to, is correct, the one with the worst sounding side effects, it's gonna kill you, would sell better. Okay. Now, so here's the two. Now, Celebrex has gone to the, will actually use the word death.

2:06:44 They've got good advice. They've got the next layer. So we have to watch the sales figures in the future because this is new as far as I remember. They never talk about death. They always talk about, we'll play this in Balta ad first and it's not that they hint at death but they never say death and it's a little softer sell I think. I think it's not going to do as well. Imagine facing the day with less chronic osteoarthritis pain. Imagine living your life with less chronic low back pain. Imagine you with less pain. Cymbalta can help. Cymbalta is FDA approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. One non-narcotic pill a day, every day, can help reduce this pain.

2:07:26 Tell your doctor right away if your mood worsens, you have unusual changes in mood or behavior, or thoughts of suicide. Antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults. Cymbalta is not approved for children under 18. People taking MAOIs or thioridazine or with uncontrolled glaucoma should not take Cymbalta. Taking it with NSAID pain relievers, aspirin, or blood thinners may increase bleeding risk. Severe liver problems, some fatal, were reported. Signs include abdominal pain and yellowing skin or eyes. Tell your doctor about all your medicines, including those for migraine. And while on Cymbalta, Call right away if you have high fever, confusion and stiff muscles or serious allergic skin reactions like blisters, peeling rash, hives or mouth sores to address possible life-threatening conditions. Talk about your alcohol use, liver disease and before you reduce or stop Cymbalta. Dizziness or fainting may occur upon standing. Ask your doctor about Cymbalta. Imagine you with less pain. Cymbalta can help. Go to Cymbalta.com to learn about a free trial offer.

2:08:20 Well they're not lying, you have less pain when you're dead. Now there's a couple things both these commercials did I thought was interesting and I don't know what the genesis of this is but I've never noticed it before in these. You'll feel no pain when you're dead. Simbalta, because you won't feel pain when you're dead. So he says one non-narcotic pill and the other guys, the guys that did the It's just the Celebrex. They don't say it, but they have a big flashing thing, non-narcotic, non-narcotic. So I guess there must be a third alternative that's narcotic or maybe they're trying to tell people you have to take morphine and this is better. I don't know. It's simple physics. A body at rest tends to stay at rest.

2:09:05 While a body in motion tends to stay in motion. Staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. But if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. Prescription Celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. One 200 milligram Celebrex a day can provide 24-hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. Plus, in clinical studies, Celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. Celebrex can be taken with or without food and it's not a narcotic. You and your doctor should balance the benefits with the risks. All prescription NSAIDs like Celebrex, Ibuprofen, Naproxen, and Meloxicam have the same cardiovascular warning. They all may increase the chance of heart attack or stroke, which can lead to death. This chance increases if you have heart disease or risk factors such as high blood pressure or

2:09:54 or when NSAIDs are taken for long periods. NSAIDs, including Celebrex, increase the chance of serious skin or allergic reactions or stomach and intestine problems such as bleeding and ulcers, which can occur without warning and may cause death. Patients also taking aspirin and the elderly are at increased risk for stomach bleeding and ulcers. Do not take Celebrex if you've had an asthma attack, hives, or other allergies to aspirin, NSAIDs, or sulfonamides. Get help right away if you have swelling of the face or throat or trouble breathing. Tell your doctor your medical history and find an arthritis treatment for you. Visit Celebrex.com and ask your doctor about Celebrex for a body in motion.

2:10:36 that even though they played the death card in the Celebrex, I think the Cymbalta sounded worse. Because this guy said, he said like, you know, it could be death. You know, I don't, I really feel that Cymbalta sounded worse than Celebrex. You don't, you disagree? I thought they were pretty well balanced. They had a lot of symptoms that you could get and a lot of, there was a few extra ones like the swelling of the head. I thought that was unusual. But it caused death. My head is really big and swollen, man. The other one had if you're confused, call your doctor. If you're confused, you won't know what to do. No, but there was a lot more. Anyway, the results are here.

2:11:21 Celebrex annual revenue $2.5 billion. Cymbalta annual revenue $3 billion. So maybe, now this is a reasonably new ad, so maybe Celebrex was like, man, those guys, they're kicking our ass. We gotta step it up. What can we do? Just say death. Okay, so we'll check in a year and we'll see because I think that the theory still holds true. The results should show up in the next two quarters. We should be able to do it in six months. You can place a bet on it. Get an option call in there. And of course it reminds me that we are so stupid. We are so... I mean, I know people are going like, Facepalm, really? You're stupid? Like we didn't know that? Here's our jingle! If you wake up with the blues, trying to fill your day with news, there's one thing you must remember, no agenda in the morning.

2:12:15 For a healthy balanced news diet, try noagendashow.com. Yeah, well someone will come up with a good one for us. Yeah, well we gotta get Sir Jeff Smith. I mean we have to have death in that. You may die after consumption of no agenda. Enjoy! And we can still be happy. It's just we gotta get the death card in there. This is no good. Interesting, producer Derek noticed something else and it's gonna drive you crazy when you pay attention to it. The phrase double down.

CHAPTER 34 / 44 Discussion

Double Down Marketing Trend and Apple Keynote Rigging

The phrase "double down" is identified as a pervasive marketing and media buzzword, appearing in everything from KFC sandwiches to tech journalism. Additionally, a demo of dictation software at an Apple keynote is criticized as being potentially rigged after a visible transcription error occurred.

double down· kfc· apple· siri· wwdc

2:13:04 Yeah, we've pointed this out on the show before. This is being used everywhere! And of course, what has just come out in May of this year is the new Burger King Double Down Sandwich. So I think this is like a huge commercial. It's a big thing to promote Burger King. Yeah. And the movie Double Down. Obviously. Obviously. Well, just Google search on just the words Double Down results and I'll just read you the first page. Wall Street Journal launches political show as newspapers Double Down on video. Ernst & Young recognizes Double Down interactive. Inga

2:13:42 Had go ahead. That's not double down Skype set to double down on Windows Apple will double down on Siri Hey, by the way KFC's got a double down too besides the other one. Oh, maybe it was KFC double down sandwich I'm sorry it was KFC. That won't get now. That's my mistake it came out in They just released it. I think like may or something oh So be on the lookout. It'll drive you crazy. This doubled everyone's using double down double down Jeff's called doubling down on the things that work. This is just the first page Double down everything's double down everybody Speaking are you doing tweet today? Yeah. Oh good. You want you want to drive you want to drive Leo crazy? Okay, or you want to be really unpopular with Apple people. Well, I'm already unpopular with Apple people. That's why I mentioned it I did a YouTube video

2:14:37 which you can find at siri.curry.com. S-I-R-I, siri.curry.com. I was watching that keynote of, you know, all the new bull crap they made up, and the guy shows the dictation software, and you and I argue about this all the time, you know, it's really hard to do dictation software that'll actually work. And there's, you know, in two hours there's only one demo, and it's like a very... he sends a tweet, And he says, I'm here showing off dictation in Mountain Lion at WWDC. And the thing translates it, but he said, I'm showing dictation instead of showing off. So it failed. Or it was just a script and the whole thing doesn't work. It's like that whole demo they do is rigged. The whole thing.

CHAPTER 35 / 44 Discussion

Joe Lieberman Cyber 9/11 and Die Hard Movie Plot

Senator Joe Lieberman's warnings about a "Cyber 9/11" are compared to the plot of the movie "Live Free or Die Hard." The "Fire Sale" attack in the film mirrors real-world concerns about infrastructure vulnerabilities in pipelines, water, and electricity.

joe lieberman· bruce willis· live free or die hard· cybersecurity· kaspersky

2:15:24 A rigged demo? Yeah! Unbelievable. I had to write the date on this. When would that happen? I think this is a history making. A rigged demo. Just bring it up. It'll be funny. Just bring it up. It'll be funny. Come on, man. Okay, I'll bring it up. I'm on with your buddy. Oh, Brian. Brushwood? Brushwood? Yeah, why is he always around? He should be in Austin. That's where he lives. Why is he constantly up here? I don't get it. Tell him I said hey. I told him to visit. No, no, no. Shh. Just tell him I said hey. You already told me I should invite him over to your house. Don't tell him to visit. And also another one of our producers, wow so smart, Carlis, I think it's Carlis, said you know I was listening to Lieberman's comments about cyber 9-11 and you were quizzing John about what he thought the three critical pieces of infrastructure were

2:16:16 He says, but my thoughts were the same as Joe Lieberman's, which was, you know, pipelines, water lines, electricity, because I saw the same movie Lieberman did, Live Free or Die Hard in Bruce Willis. But check this out. The main plot of the movie is a computer attack called Fire Sail. Sound like anything familiar? Like flame, flamer, fire sail? Yeah, that's good. Yeah, yeah. Wagging the dog. Once again, which by the way, I have less confidence that our government made that. Our government can't make that. We can't do anything right with our government. Governments are no good. They're no good at actually creating things. I know too many people who work in IT and government agencies. It's a mess. The machines have been patched for two years. It's a mess. They don't create any of this bull crap. It's all... And Kaspersky, I think, you know,

CHAPTER 36 / 44 Discussion

Miss USA Pageant Rigging Allegations on Fox News

Fox News reported on allegations that the Miss USA pageant is rigged, following claims by Miss Pennsylvania. Donald Trump dismissed the accusers as "sore losers," a sentiment echoed by Megyn Kelly during her commentary on the scandal.

donald trump· miss usa· megyn kelly· fox news· trace gallagher

2:17:13 What kind of anti-virus company are you if you can't detect the virus for two years? That means you can't detect anything. Those guys made it. This whole thing is bogative. I'm not buying any of it. Until you show me the code. Okay, I don't know where you got off on that tangent. Well, just... It's a little pet peeve. You should play the pet peeve thing. No, it's not a pet peeve. It's not a pet peeve. Sounds like a peeve to me. No. So, uh, Trump, apparently another of the models came out and said the Miss USA was rigged. No. No. No! You can play the clip, but you better play a real news theme before. Okay, which clip am I playing here?

2:17:57 Miss USA Scandal. Miss USA Scandal. Now comes forward and seems to back up Miss Pennsylvania's claims that the pageant is rigged. Trace Gallagher brings us up to date on all of our beauty pageant news. Trace? You know when Miss Pennsylvania first came forward and resigned her crown saying the Miss USA contest was rigged I mean she got hit pretty hard right? Donald Trump came out calling her a sore loser. I can't listen John. I really can't. I really, I can't. Is Miss Syria, is there a Miss Syria? Yeah, they're gonna talk about that next. So at the very end of this thing, which goes on and discusses this new girl, and all they do by the way in this segment is show the breasts of the girls in real close-up. Oh good, and this is news? What station was this on? This was Fox, this is Megyn Kelly. Oh, this is Fox News, news, Fox News.

2:18:52 So but then Megan pulls a douchebag thing at the end and kind of kills the, because they have Trump on a lot, right? So they have to make, you know, he's on safe things. They gotta promote him. They gotta promote him. So here's Megan Kelly, after this really went on for about four minutes, here's her final little kind of douchebaggy commentary. The complainants, uh, no. None of the complainants have won in the top five. So maybe they're all sore losers, right? They didn't. I know. What? What was the beginning of that clip? That was it? That's all I got. Ugh. Nevermind. We have clip issues today. I must have mis-clipped. Well, that is a... Hold on a second. Epic fail.

CHAPTER 37 / 44 Discussion

Military Drone Technology and Gorgon Stare Surveillance

The military has unveiled the "Gorgon Stare" and "Argus" camera systems for drones, capable of high-definition, real-time imagery from an altitude of six kilometers. The new MQ-4C Triton drone can surveil over 6.9 million square kilometers in a single mission, costing approximately $200 million per unit.

gorgon stare· argus· mq-4c triton· surveillance· drones

2:19:42 All right, let's move on to something else shall we we can add another three to kill list curry calm three more killed in Waziristan where of course the pipeline is going through that's in northwestern Pakistan so you can go to kill list curry calm so that's 3538 since we've started counting which has been what a week a week Yeah, week two shows one week and I have a new word for you actually two words as I'm looking into the Domestic drone situation and what these things can really do here's your two words Gorgon stare Gorgon stare from some science fiction book well Interestingly there is a a comic Hero called Gorgon but Gorgon in grief myth mythology was a terrifying female creature and

2:20:41 In fact, if you looked at the palatine if you looked at Gorgon you would turn to stone Instantaneously, but if you look up Gorgas stair and I have a whole bunch of links in the show notes for an 8.8 show notes I come you'll see that this is the the camera system. You're always interested in this So you have the Gorgon stair and then the Gorgon stair plus Argus? Gorgon stair and an altitude of six kilometers. So that's like roughly a little under a little over three miles and They can span 7 kilometers worth of high definition imagery, real time. But when you add the Argus stuff, oh my god, there's pictures that I have, links actually of pictures that they're taking, and they have audio too. They can listen, they can watch. Bull crap. You can't have audio from that distance.

2:21:39 It's not even remotely possible. That's what they say. They're just doing that. I don't know why they're saying that. That doesn't make sense. And they've now unveiled the 40 meter wingspan MQ Mike Quebec 4 Charlie operating ceiling of 18 kilometers can operate uninterrupted for 24 hours. This is a great drone. Here it is. The unmanned aircraft features ANZPY3 multifunction active sensor radar system which enables the Triton to cover more than 6.9 million square kilometers in a single intelligence surveillance reconnaissance mission.

2:22:20 You know there's still potholes in Highway 80, just I mean they did pave the part in front of my house but up the road I was driving along and it's a big pothole and there's just bumps and gouges all over this freeway. And meanwhile what do you think, what does one of these things cost? I don't have the price but I'll bet you it's with procurement and everything it's got to be up there. About 200 million I can tell you right now. Well they can certainly surveil your potholes. They can do that. Hey, look at all the potholes. Senator of Kentucky Rand Paul introduced a bill into the United States Senate. This is supposed to be, you know, the guy who's against all this stuff, against these surveillance drones. And he has introduced S-3287.

CHAPTER 38 / 44 Discussion

Rand Paul and Preserving Freedom from Unwarranted Surveillance Act

Senator Rand Paul introduced the Preserving Freedom from Unwarranted Surveillance Act of 2012. While intended to protect privacy, the bill contains significant exceptions allowing drone use for border patrol, "exigent circumstances," and cases where the Secretary of Homeland Security determines a high risk of terrorism.

rand paul· fourth amendment· drones· homeland security· surveillance bill

2:23:10 Also known as the Preserving Freedom from Unwarranted Surveillance Act of 2012. And you'd think he'd be like, get the drones out of our airspace. Nooo, in fact I'm gonna douchebag him right now. Quite the opposite, he says. The term drone, of course, he specifies an aerial vehicle that does not carry human operator. Yes, can fly autonomously. So that's we know what a drone is. Law enforcement means any person or entity authorized by law. So that can be your local cops. Prohibited use of drones. except as provided in section 4, which we'll get to, the exceptions, a person or entity acting under the authority as a police officer or funded or in whole or in part by the government of the United States shall not use a drone to gather evidence or other information pertaining to criminal conduct or conduct in violation of a statute or regulation except to the extent authorized in a warrant

2:24:05 that satisfies the requirements of the Fourth Amendment. So what he's saying here is, as long as I have a warrant, it's okay to fly a drone over you. But here are the exceptions. This act does not prohibit any of the following, and we have a new word that I had to look up. The use of a drone to patrol borders to prevent or deter illegal entry of any persons or illegal substances, that shall be allowed. The use of a drone by law enforcement party when Exigent, exigent circumstances exist. Yeah, exigent. What does exigent mean? It's like extenuating. In other words, there's a rat, let's look it up. It says requiring immediate aid or action. Well, what does that mean? You got the screen, you're at the door.

2:24:56 Yeah. Ms. Jenkins, and then you hear a scream, you bust the door down and you run in because you can do that. It's like you heard something going on. Exigent. So whenever they basically say, oh, it's exigent. Expedite under exigent circumstances. That's bull crap. That just means go ahead and do it whenever. Or for the purposes of this paragraph, exigent circumstances exist when the law enforcement party possesses reasonable suspicion that under particular circumstances swift action to prevent imminent danger to life is necessary. Bull crap! What a sellout!

2:25:35 The use of a drone to counter a high risk of a terrorist attack by specific individual organization is also allowed when the Secretary of Homeland Security determines credible... not CIA, not the FBI, the Secretary of Homeland Security determines credible intelligence indicates there's such a risk. Well, screw you. She's running an intelligence agency now? Is that what that says? That's what it sounds like. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. So basically Rand Paul just said, oh, it's okay, go ahead and do it. That's douchey. Yeah. Rand Paul, you know, your next president. I hope not. No, please no. No, that's, that's, uh, I find that very annoying. So who's going to be the vice president candidate? Let's just discuss that for a minute. Really? Yeah, really. Make a prediction. Well, I know your prediction, so I have to say someone else. No, you can agree with me. Mitch Daniels. No way.

CHAPTER 39 / 44 Discussion

Jackson-Vanik Act and Russian Trade Relations

Senator John McCain attempted to negotiate the repeal of the Jackson-Vanik Act in exchange for the Magnitsky Law. Russia seeks the repeal to facilitate its entry into the World Trade Organization (WTO), but objects to the public listing of Russian officials barred from the U.S.

jackson-vanik act· russia· wto· john mccain· magnitsky law

2:26:41 Put it in the Red Book. The guy is a milk toast. So what you're saying Rubio? Yeah, although he doesn't want to do it, but we've been over this a million times. You keep saying them and I keep saying it's Daniel. So OK, we'll go back to square one. You're going to change your mind and say Rand Paul. No, no, no. They duped him. He's now he's now he's grasping, clutching for straws like I'll approve your drones. It's put me in. Maybe he'll become like. You'll get a secretary, maybe it'll be a secretary job or something. How about a secretary of drones? Yeah, we need that. We need a new position. It's ours. We drones are. I totally agree. They're trying to get rid of the Jackson Vanik.

2:27:31 Is that a bill? Jackson-Vanik? It's an act. It was done sometime. We talked about it in great detail. Right, right, right, right. And, and, but this is important with Russia. Yeah, it's very important with Russia. And here's the deal McCain tried to make. He said, we'll get rid of the Jackson-Vanik Act if you let us implement the Magnitsky law, which would, yeah, which would create a list of Russians who are not allowed to come into the country. And the Russians are like, no, I'm not going to let you make some list. But they are trying to. Yeah, well, we all got lists, but we don't publish the list. That's literally what they're saying. I can't let you publish a list. That's bogative. Just get rid of this Jackson-Vanik Act, which is a big deal to the Russians. They want to join the World Trade Organization. They want to be part of everything. Right. Yeah, totally. So that's a no go. McCain tried. You've got to give him credit for trying.

CHAPTER 40 / 44 Discussion

Field Dressing Game and Conservation Ethics

A personal anecdote clarifies that while some family members are skilled in field dressing game, they maintain strict ethical standards regarding hunting. The discussion contrasts responsible conservation with the "douchebaggery" of uninformed anti-hunting activists.

deer hunting· field dressing· conservation· oryx· ethics

2:28:35 But didn't, obviously didn't succeed. I have... So from the outdoor forums board I see just showed up in my email box. My kids' oryx hunt this weekend. Kid, some little kid, two youngest kids drew their oil stallion range oryx and nailed it and they got a dead oryx here. You got a picture? Yeah. Oh, awesome. Kids holding those crazy horns those things have. Hey, I've been saving the best for last. For a thousand bucks I better yeah, you can get the head you can mount it. Yeah, no I somehow get a very short picture of miss Mickey allowing me to mount an oryx head here at Camp Mofo maybe in the You don't know that she doesn't like when I have an or by the way yeah by the way She wants everyone to know that with her her second dad or stepdad she grew up hunting deer

2:29:34 and field dressing it and eating it the same day. So she says you're totally full of crap, Curry, which is true. She is a field dresser. She is skilled in the art of field dressing. She cannot bring herself to shoot the deer. But she's she and she totally gets the whole it. She can gut it and she totally gets the whole conservation thing and she thinks all those people on that clip we played last week are douchebags. They don't understand what they're talking about. So I have to correct my incorrect ways. I was very wrong. But I don't think she wants the Oryx head hanging in the living room. Can I have it? No! Yeah, well wait a minute. What's it worth? You got a spot for it. What's it worth to you, buddy? Port Angeles would be great to have an Oryx head. Biodiversity to wrap it up for my end. I know John's got some other stuff, but very interesting things happening and it's worth noting as we are gearing up for Rio Plus 20.

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IMF Christine Lagarde and Rio Plus 20 Carbon Tax

IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde is pivoting the Rio Plus 20 agenda from climate change to "sustainable development" and poverty. Lagarde proposed a global carbon tax of $25 per ton, which would add 22 cents to a gallon of gasoline in the U.S., potentially raising $1 trillion over a decade.

christine lagarde· imf· rio plus 20· carbon tax· sustainable development

2:30:37 And I think this kicks off in about five days time from now. And something has changed. There is a distinct change and you see it everywhere in the news and I'm paying attention to this stuff. BBC, uncertainty hampers Rio plus 20 talks. UN talks on sustainable development, love that word, are encouraging disputes, delays and diplomatic wrangling days before world leaders arrive to sign a new agreement. The talks in Rio de Janeiro are aimed at putting the world economy on a more sustainable path, helping people out of poverty while protecting nature. Yet developing countries have walked out over money. So now listen very carefully what's happening here.

2:31:29 aimed at putting the world economy on a more sustainable path, helping people out of poverty while protecting nature. What's happened here is it's moved from man-made climate change to poverty, which will solve... No, this is big, big news. This is very, very... I'd say. And lo and behold, I come... Another RSS feed I'm now subscribed to, I come across videos from the IMF. And Christine Lagarde has set the tone for... She's going. Now you know that whenever Madame Lagarde shows up, we're screwed. And all these douchebags over there at the Agenda 21 people, they now realize, oh crap. It's all over because here's Lagarde and she's coming in and wow, what I found her talking about is outrageous. Well actually,

2:32:30 Here she is setting the tone for Rio plus 20 at her IMF speech before she departs to Rio de Janeiro. It has been 20 years now that since the world leaders first went to Rio de Janeiro to commit to the noble goal of protecting the planet for future generation. And now 20 years on, we will be journeying back, at least some of us will, I'm certainly of those that will be going to Rio plus 20, affirm our commitment to sustainable development, to the idea that we should strive for economic growth.

2:33:08 environmental protection and social progress at the same time, the three not being mutually exclusive. So notice she puts economic growth first and doesn't say global warming. No, it's about sustainability. Huh. So I listened a little more. Let's check out what she says about sustainability. Turning to the basics and getting those basics right. Sustainable development must spring from macroeconomic and financial stability, which in turn paves the way for robust growth and a productive economy. And this is the first step of the journey. Again, first step is economics. John, something has changed. We're no longer trying to push global warming. We're trying to tax people to help the poor people.

2:34:00 And she had it all figured out. For her, it's all about pricing. We have to get the pricing set right. And she has an idea for the United States. And here it is. Revenues is generated by the tax instruments, by the licenses fees that I was talking about. Now, a few numbers here, and I don't want to get that wrong, so I'm going to put my glasses. That's the price you pay for age. In the United States, for instance, a carbon tax of about $25 per ton of CO2, which would add 22 cents to a gallon of gasoline, could bring in about 1% of GDP or over $1 trillion

2:34:50 in a decade. Now right after this speech, she sits down for a question and answer with some incredible douche! Douche woman from the IMF. And this was like, whoa, hold on a second. Here's how they're gonna do it. Uh...

CHAPTER 42 / 44 Discussion

IMF Article 4 Surveillance and Global Carbon Pricing

The IMF is using "Article 4" surveillance to monitor member countries' compliance with new fiscal policies, including carbon pricing. Lagarde launched a practical e-book guide for policymakers that outlines how to implement these taxes and "pollution rights" as a standard international law.

imf· article 4· carbon pricing· e-book· fiscal policy

2:35:32 France, like a few others, can also be of help and we can certainly procure access to those sort of lessons drawn from real life experiences. Here comes your thing. I hope you'll put the 22 cents, how much revenue that would yield in this country for a gasoline tax into the next, what's it called, the country reviews that the IMF does. Article 4. Article 4. Thank you. So first of all, here's this douche saying, I hope you I hope you forced to tax the American people. And she says, oh, Article four review. Whoa. Article four of the IMF agreement, which is binding to all members and we're a member of that includes surveillance by the IMF in its present form was established by Article four of the IMF's Articles of Agreement as revised in the late 70s following the collapse of Bretton Woods system, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Task the IMF

2:36:34 with promoting stability for its part, the IMF is charged overseeing the international monetary system to ensure its effective operation, monitoring each member's compliance with its policy obligations. So what they do is they do an annual review of every country under the Article 4 regulation and if they're not on board, if they're not doing something right, then they get slapped by Lagarde when she's wearing her BDSM outfit. And her whole idea here, John, is to create a it's unbelievable, a global one price for for carbon. And she's saying it should now be at twenty five dollars per ton of carbon and it should be a global tax. And she's got an e-book about it. Just to point out the fact that if there is no price,

2:37:33 there is no cost so we can waste. So getting the price right is critical and as I said I think the IMF can help in that respect because it means setting fiscal policies to make sure that the harm we do is also reflected in the price we pay and I'm thinking clearly about environmental taxes, emission trading systems under which government issue and preferably sell Issuing has had its time, but actually sell pollution rights. It's basically a variation of the old mantra, you break it, you buy it. Les pollueurs sont les payeurs. I can see that there is one person at least who understands French. Those who pollute shall be the payers. In a way.

2:38:32 Now you can read a lot more about this because it's all very well me saying it to you now, but it's far more important that there be publication by the IMF on that particular topic. And you can read about this in a new IMF e-book. You will not find it in hard copy. It's an electronic book on carbon pricing which we are launching actually today. So today an electronic book is being published by the IMF on this particular topic. and it's intended as a practical guide for policy makers. So it's not a lot of theoretical rhetorical demonstration, it's a practical guide. In other words, it's the law. And I'm not going to... I'm just going to give you some key words from this, because this is what we can look forward to. Of course, I've downloaded the e-book, I've read the entire thing, and well, you can just set your clock by what's going to happen. Are you with me so far, John?

CHAPTER 43 / 44 Discussion

Social Cost of Carbon and Global Wealth Redistribution

The "Social Cost of Carbon" (SCC) is a new monetary value assigned to future climate damage, used to justify international taxes. Organizations like the World Resources Institute, which includes figures like Al Gore, are accused of pushing these policies to bypass national sovereignty and implement global VAT-style taxes.

social cost of carbon· scc· world resources institute· al gore· vat

2:39:30 Yeah, no, this is not ordinary. I mean this is just part of the get rid of American sovereignty movement. But it's also, it's unexpected that they move this quickly from global warming, you know, that whole thing wasn't working, so now they're saying, oh it just has to be about poverty. And they've got a whole bunch of buzzwords and keywords that are popping up. So of course... I like to see it, you know, they're going to try to steal, essentially she gave the numbers. They want to, out of our economy which is already deeply in debt, they want to steal $100 billion a year? Oh, that's just from the gasoline tax.

2:40:09 Oh no, no, no, let me just read you a few highlights. This e-book by the way written by Ruud de Mooij, a Dutch guy, Ian Parry and Michael Keane, I believe he's Irish. So, let me just pull it up here. Revenues from fiscal instruments can contribute significantly to fiscal consolidation needs. If countries do not implement such policies they will need to rely more heavily on other deficit reduction measures. Okay, that's kind of normal. Okay, so here it is. If carbon pricing policies are not initially viable, carefully designed regulatory packages known as feebates can be reasonable alternatives. So they want to build in a feebate.

2:40:50 Into your car your washing machine anything that could use carbon in or produce carbon in any form You will they will now implement the fee bait and watch for this word to show up So, you know you buy an electric car you get a fee bait of $5,000 but it'll be the same for everything that you buy there'll be a fee bait built in and that fee bait of course is going to well, it's going to the global banks I presume and Here it is. Some options for overcoming opposition to carbon pricing do exist. Really? Higher energy prices hurt consumers and reduce the competitiveness of trade exposed energy intensive firms, i.e. aluminum and steel producers. However, these efforts should not be overstated and might be addressed in part through scaling back pre-existing energy taxes, particularly on vehicles and electricity consumption that become redundant with the carbon pricing. You see, so they're going to do a little

2:41:47 Bait-and-switch on us here is what I'm feeling VAT is another way to Can you just imagine this where do you get some VAT in the United States? This is what they're pushing for. It's right here in the in the guidelines and here I think was the one that I like the best as policies emerge piecemeal and rather than as a part of an internationally agreed stabilization goal, it might be more natural to base the emissions price on SCC, social cost of carbon. And the SCC is a discounted monetary value of the future climate change demands due to additional tons of CO2 emissions. So the way they calculate our $25 per ton of carbon,

2:42:44 $2,007 with 21.4 dollars per ton of emissions released, rising at about 2-3% per year in real terms, consistent with near-term prices for stabilizing projected warming of 3.6 degrees Celsius. So they've actually made a formula of the degrees that the earth warms based upon tons of carbon and somehow they've put that into her magic purse and they've come up with $25 per ton of carbon and this is going to be the international standard and this is what she's going to go sell in Rio. Well there seems to be, this all seems to trace back to this

2:43:44 World Resources Institute and they have a whole paper on from a year ago from by Ruth Greenspan Bell, which is obviously some relationship you about the SCC and apparently of Obama's somehow behind it but Probably everybody and then you start looking at who runs this operation the World Resources Institute quite interesting It's all internationalists. Oh, yeah I mean you have the XM the head the chairman of the board is the head of the XM Bank the Export-Import Bank mm-hmm The vice chair is a former US ambassador the Organization of American States Former administrator United Nations Development Program This is all these guys that we just do not these are the these are the guys trying to take over the world Well, they're on track to do it

2:44:36 It's funny because the world... Hey, guess who else is on this list? Do you want a list of names? You might as well just tell me. Al Gore. Oh yeah. Oops, I meant to hit that one. Yeah, really. The WWDF is very angry. No good. Yeah, they're like, hey, wait a minute. We were supposed to be taking the money for global warming. Now the IMF is, they're the ones. There's no wonder they had to get that Dominique Strauss-Kahn out because she was, you know that she was the boss of that law firm.

2:45:14 The woman, yeah, the one in Chicago. Yeah. She was huge. She was the chairman. She was the chair. She ran the whole thing. This woman is evil. Capital E triple six. And she is out to take our money. Carbon taxes, social cost of what was it? Social. Social cost of carbon. Social cost of carbon. I mean, wow. It doesn't even mean anything. You know, your footprint, your evil, your oh. And there it is, 22 cents per gallon of gasoline. That's just gasoline. Well, exposing this will help. No, it won't help. Well, maybe. Okay, what am I thinking? Exposing the douchebaggery will help. That's right. Hey, go out and explain that to your friends. Here's what you do. Hey man, Christine Lagarde's gonna take all our money. You'll be laughed out. That's not gonna work.

CHAPTER 44 / 44 Discussion

TSA Pat-Down Photos and Operation Purple Chariot

A woman recorded a TSA agent patting down her husband, raising questions about the legality of photographing security procedures. Meanwhile, rumors circulate about "Operation Purple Chariot," a purported security setup involving the London Olympics.

tsa· sexual assault· olympics· operation purple chariot· london

2:46:19 Alright, I got nothing to compare to that. Give me something fun to roll out on. Do you have anything fun to roll out on? No, you have nothing. Yeah, there's a kind of a fun clip that some woman taking pictures of her husband being patted down at the TSA I think is worth listening to. Alright, let's listen to that. If you're going to be fondling him, that's, I mean, in some cases that's considered sexual assault. So you're telling me that you're going to be fondling his groin area and I can't take any photos or anything? Can I at least have your name? Do you mind if I have your name? I want you and Mickey to do the same thing. You know, I thought there was some edict that said you could take photos of the TSA, but they still won't let you. I mean, this is weird. I've got to get to the bottom of this. No, you can't do any of that at all. These guys are just making it up as they go along about the rules.

2:47:18 Give my nation UK. I'll just say I have the inside information that They are under the operation purple chariot Operation purple chariot is what this is all about And I'm getting details on it, but this was a set up a long time ago And that's what all this crap is in around the Olympics. It's called operation purple chariot be on the lookout for code words purple and chariot So you're gonna go to the Olympics? Apparently there's plenty of tickets. Yeah, who wants to go? You get blowed up. I don't think I wants to goes. We will have episode 319-er. Sorry, 419-er. Dropped 100 episodes. Coming up on Thursday, I'm sure we'll have plenty to talk about. Certainly in lieu of 420. And 424 is obviously the day Stuxnet is set to die.

2:48:15 And I have a very interesting report coming out in the next newsletter, which is the man who can tell Valerie Jarrett what to do. No. Oh, I know. There's only one man who can tell Valerie Jarrett what to do. That's Christine Lagarde. Yeah, well, that's not who we're talking about. There's a man who can tell Valerie Jarrett what to do, and it's like a very interesting story. All right. John, happy Father's Day to you, my friend. Happy Father's Day to you and happy Father's Day to all ships at sea. Coming to you... I'm sorry? Boots on the ground. Coming to you from the capital of the drone star state here in Austin, Tejas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where nothing is free, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Thursday right here with no agenda.

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