The Cheeseburger Code

00:00 It makes your skin crawl. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, May 20th, 2012, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 410. This is no agenda. Making up 50% of the G2 here at Camoflo in the capital of the drone star state, Austin Tejas. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, land of the lost envelopes, I'm John C. Dvorak. I was very announcer-ish of you, I like that. Yeah. I'm John C. Dvorak! Yay. Well, there's no- In the morning to you, Adam Curry and all ships and sea boots on the ground, subs in the water. Oh, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak. No preamble, straight to the ITMs. Hello there, chatroom. In the morning to all the human resources. NoagendaStream.com, NoagendaChat.net here to keep us honest.

00:58 Keeping us honest as we do the show live and I just keep it as balance keeping this fair and balanced and honest and all of that stuff Going on outside there. I don't know are these coconuts you you have acquired a horse come Hold on hold on hold on yeah nailed it Hey John, whatever you think, let me just assure you there is no New World Order takeover going on. Nowhere. Oh, okay, good. Nothing whatsoever. Nothing to see here. There's nothing happening whatsoever. However, I'm very concerned. Very, very concerned. From time to time we hear the elites speak in code.

01:48 All the time. Yeah, well, but sometimes we catch it and sometimes we understand we miss most of it miss most of it. Yeah, so our president of the these United States have given one nation Obama had President Hollande Hollande over and before they choppered off to Camp David, they had a little sit down and I was actually surprised because the president did not say, did not speak of our special relationship, which he does with every other country in the world. So that was a little surprising. Maybe he's been listening to the show thinking, yeah, I should probably change that. But there was some code at the end of this sit down that disturbed me and I'd like you to try and help me decipher it. Are you ready?

02:32 Here's the quote. I was interested when I was reading the president's biography that he actually spent some time in the United States in his youth studying American fast food. And although he decided to go into politics, we'll be interested in his opinions of Cheeseburgers in Chicago hmm okay cheeseburgers in Chicago alright, so I'm thinking what does that way? Do they have to you know this click click click click click bull crap has got to go You know someone else said that you know these cameras actually do have mirrors Yes, they do and they do make some noise, but they don't make that much noise They're very actually relatively quiet and those mics are directional so how's this working is it bouncing off the ceiling? Whatever the case is either get new mics or this is done on purpose. Oh

03:29 Just to make it well You know it is an important part of the of the whole ambiance because you don't actually see the reporters by the way They can just say hey no mirrored cameras. They could no care. You know just you can't do it We don't want this noise in the room no mirrored cameras Just bring your Instamatic There's plenty of high-quality cameras that don't make all that racket now so the code word is cheeseburger Let's listen to the reply for the code And I would like to thank President Obama for the knowledge he has of my life before I took office. I will say nothing against the cheeseburger. Uh-huh, you'll say nothing against the cheeseburger. Okay. And as to my own vehicle, the one I used to have until I took office,

04:15 I hope that I will not have to use it in the future. So wait a minute, Obama... That may have been code too for all you know. No, I don't think so. I think the cheeseburger is code because he says, I can't wait for you to check out my cheeseburger. In Chicago. In Chicago. And then he says, I will say nothing about the cheeseburger. And then Obama comes back and says... I just want to remember that cheeseburgers go very well with french fries. Ah, cheeseburgers go well with french fries. I think Syria is coming down, John.

04:56 Syria. I was thinking it was going to go in a million directions, but that is the last one that came to mind. And you know how I know Syria's going down? Let me get out of here. Here's how I know that it's time for Syria to go down. This is the this is the absolute the clearest signal of all of Syrians have fled into neighboring Turkey to escape the brutal assault by forces of President Bashar al-Assad Anderson Cooper Joining us now from Hatay province Turkey just near the Syrian border Ah! Pooper on the scene! Aha! Now we know what's gonna happen

05:34 Pooper never goes anywhere unless something's taken place. Syria is go. Well, apparently if she asks if if Yeah, that guy That guy yeah, it's it's so obvious. That's what that's what it means It's time to go when poopers on the scene, you know, it's gonna happen. Oh Well, I don't have any idea what the cheeseburger is actually a reference to it. I don't think it's a reference specifically to Syria. I think it'd be a reference to a code name for a plan and they would had to confirm it somehow.

06:14 Because they couldn't get together to do it on the sly without somebody listening in. They didn't have time to like give the thumbs up. Cheeseburgers are good. Cheeseburgers are good. Yes, they are. They are very good. Cheeseburger flies at night. Cheeseburger flies at night. Okay, it's good to go. With french fries. Cheeseburger goes well with french fries. The French have agreed to the cheeseburger scheme. It's the cheeseburger conspiracy. It's so obvious what's going on here. Oh my goodness. Well here we are John on the 20th day of the month of May in the year 2012 of our Lord bringing you once again the actual real news as it is not portrayed on television sets newspapers or radio stations anywhere in the world or blogs for that matter. Oh you're telling me.

07:08 So what did you focus on? I mean there was so much so much happening this week. I was watching a lot of C-SPAN. Yeah, me too. I got some interesting clips and fortunately the reason I'm irked about this is we have to put one of the clips off until the next show. Which one? Because I might have it. Did you miss something? No, it was about Chuck Colson. The whole bunch of congressmen came out and extolled the virtues of Chuck Colson, the Watergate bad guy. who went to jail in the Nixon administration and then found Jesus and then became a big

07:52 the preacher, it's essentially even though without a church and went around and had apparently the guy was always a brainiac and he apparently had the touch he might as well been Werner Erhardt the way he had manipulated these congressmen and everybody else to believe that he was not a raving prick mm-hmm and So they had all these guys all these kind all you tell which congressmen were suckered into this because they all came out and went Did these long accolades about how great the guy is and it's a shame that he was a bad guy at first But you know he was redeemed did he go to jail yes. He was in jail for a long time So that and that was interesting to you this

08:36 What was interesting to me is if you play let me look at the clips the clip I think is what the what the WTF There's three of them. Yeah, and it's and it's the one that should be played first Which is not the backstory and it's not the part two okay? Are you ready yeah? And I'll tell you why this would got me because if you listen carefully what he says I just was kind of like flabbergasted by this one element of information developed finally have guidelines that you have applied. It is in those principles of glorifying God that Mr. Coulson really developed a presence that affected the world and affected my life significantly. He began to compel those of us attending this lecture series in this this House of Representatives in one of the rooms beneath us, compel us to enlist those around us, to be a light that shines out to others, to let our life be different

09:36 to let our lives be the equivalent of salt and light which are rubbed, so to speak, into the fabric of the American mindset so that those around us will know that they have embraced a lie. Put your hands on your iPod and feel the power of the Lord. I mean was that just nonsense that he's spewing there this congressman on the floor of Congress? Here's the thing I mean if you listen to that last part of it it says salt and lye or salt and something and then you I don't know what he even said, it was just gibberish. Fire and brimstone. Anyway, it was just ridiculously, it was ridiculous nonsense, but what got me was that early on he says, I don't have his name, but he's one of the congressmen from California who I should remember his name. Anyway, he, and I think he was plastered.

10:27 Seriously. And so he says that the lecture series that Coulson gave in Congress in one of the special rooms down in the second on the first floor is what he says. So we take this felon who was just a bad actor in every way possible and a jailbird and not that you shouldn't have some redemption but I don't think they should give him a platform in Congress, in Washington to propagandize these idiot representatives who are just you know looking for I don't know what the hell they're looking for but they're there this is all taking place under the under the roof of

11:06 the House of Representatives. It's unbelievable to me. Well they put all other kinds of douchebags on the in front of Congress. I saw nothing the whole weekend. I saw idiots talking about how it's okay to throw bags over people's heads. This was a lecture series to members of Congress. Well Anwar al-Awlaki lectured in the Pentagon. I don't see the problem. This is part for the course. It is, but I'm not saying it's not part for the course. It's just I find it extremely annoying that this goes on and then these guys brag about it with weird blather on the floor of Congress. It's just disappointing.

11:48 Though the same guy, if you want to play the back story, play the back story clip. And this is what gets me up. This is how the kind of competency we have with our congressman. See if you can find the factual error in this particular clip. I was interested to see that President Nixon was on TV and the camera zoomed in very close to him and he described that American soldiers were not in or around Cambodia. that that mission was not one that we as soldiers were fulfilling. Now, having just been in and out around Cambodia the entire day, that struck me unusual that a president would say things that were completely untrue that I knew to be untrue. In my heart, I began to believe that he could have said, I don't think the American people have a right to know. He could have said it's secret, that's classified information.

12:47 But he came out with the camera looking him square in the face and said we were not there. Now maybe he did not know. I'll give that. But when I got back to the U.S. and had found out about Watergate, that was beginning to unravel. The idea of who to vote for in those 1972 elections was ever present on my mind. His opponent, there was no chance I would vote for him. His opponent was Eugene McCarthy. I would not vote for there, but I ended up filling my ballot out that neither man is qualified or deserves this office and did not vote for president that year. I think I'm too young to answer this. Yeah, you probably are. But let's say this guy's my age or more or less. How old? I don't know.

13:42 More or less yeah, so anyway. It's like I just give anybody out there. You know rhetorical question when exactly did Eugene McCarthy Yeah, I thought it was gonna be McCarthy because that didn't sound right wasn't McCarthy like Second World War time no no no that you think of a different McCarthy no this Was George McGovern that ran against Nixon right right right and he did? McGovern McGovern Eugene McCarthy Was the guy who was a he was a anti-war guy who? Started a kind of a movement within the Democrat Party which ended up being stolen by Bobby Kennedy Because it started get take hold against Nixon and then Kennedy was killed

14:33 And then, you know, this began around 69 I think is when McCarthy first started cropping up. And anyway, whatever the case, it was, it was, Gene McCarthy never ran, the point is, is Gene McCarthy never ran for president. He was never on the ballot. So where is the, what world is this guy living in? And he's on the floor of Congress representing a public. Well, why don't they stand up and object? Well, I object to this abhorrent behavior. It's one of those bogus things. You had a bunch of drunken guys. They were all there at once, going on and on about Chuck Colson and our Lord, and it was horrible.

15:13 Well, I too was watching some C-SPAN. I'm not going to get into it just yet because of course we had the continuing debate and the amendments discussion about the National Defense Authorization Act for 2013, even though we're still in the throes of actual legal battle about 2012, in particular Section 1021, which makes it legal for the president to deem you a terrorist and throw a bag over your head and throw you in jail for as long as it takes. And just in time for all of this conversation, oh, it's beautiful. The meme fest of all meme fests come out. We have domestic terrorists in Chicago. And this is beautiful because, you know, back in, I grew up in Amsterdam and we'd have squatters and then someone would throw a Molotov cocktail and they were anarchists.

14:33 And then, you know, this began around 69 I think is when McCarthy first started cropping up. And anyway, whatever the case, it was, it was, Gene McCarthy never ran, the point is, is Gene McCarthy never ran for president. He was never on the ballot. So where is the, what world is this guy living in? And he's on the floor of Congress representing a public. Well, why don't they stand up and object? Well, I object to this abhorrent behavior. It's one of those bogus things. You had a bunch of drunken guys. They were all there at once, going on and on about Chuck Colson and our Lord, and it was horrible.

15:13 Well, I too was watching some C-SPAN. I'm not going to get into it just yet because of course we had the continuing debate and the amendments discussion about the National Defense Authorization Act for 2013, even though we're still in the throes of actual legal battle about 2012, in particular Section 1021, which makes it legal for the president to deem you a terrorist and throw a bag over your head and throw you in jail for as long as it takes. And just in time for all of this conversation, oh, it's beautiful. The meme fest of all meme fests come out. We have domestic terrorists in Chicago. And this is beautiful because, you know, back in, I grew up in Amsterdam and we'd have squatters and then someone would throw a Molotov cocktail and they were anarchists.

16:04 You know, no longer anarchist, now you're a terrorist. And the guys didn't throw anything. There was an undercover, they say cop, but I want to believe it's an FBI guy, who infiltrated this group. So there's three guys, a fourth guy shows up and says, hey, I got a good idea. Here's some here's some here's some throwing stars and the fourth man. Here's some throwing stars and some beer bottles of gasoline and then they're called terrorists. So listen to the meme fest that ABC News the compromised ABC News uh... puts out and and i'll just have to ring the bell for each one of the means they're beautiful the way this has been planned terrorist so that's how law enforcement authorities in chicago described brian church and jared chase and brent betterly according to investigators the men plan to hurl molotov cocktails into four police stations including this one with one goal in mind, harm police officers. defendant church at one point asked his co-defendants if they had ever seen a cop

17:07 on fire. After distracting the police investigators say the men then plan to launch an attack on President Obama's campaign headquarters, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel's home and financial institutions in the downtown area. This plot Plot very clearly plot does not represent protest behavior. No, this is criminal behavior. They didn't do anything It sounds like they blew up the Financial district they got Rahm Emanuel's house burnt to the ground and an attack on the president an attack on the prey everything they did all but it gets better it gets better it gets better

17:43 An undercover police officer infiltrated the group and helped foil the plot. The trio traveled from Florida to Chicago to protest the NATO military summit which begins tomorrow. According to court documents, they had amassed a small cache of weapons for the planned attack, including a mortar gun, swords, a hunting bow, throwing swords, a hunting bow. I'm walking through Chicago with my bow. What is it, The Hunger Games? And his sword. and a throwing star. Throwing stars, knives with brass knuckles and several beer bottles filled with gasoline. The men were initially arrested in an overnight raid at a Chicago apartment building. Now listen to the, I didn't really catch it until I heard her speak. Their attorney who looks like an actor

18:36 She's got her hair pulled back unnaturally. She's got glasses on which don't look natural. She completely, to me, felt like an actor in this script. The attorneys argue the materials collected by police were being used to brew beer, not make bombs. It is part of a fear campaign to deter people from getting out to protest. The security planning and anxiety surrounding the meeting of world leaders in Chicago has been growing for months. Thousands of protesters are already in town and even with the massive police presence some are still concerned It is alarming without a doubt it is alarming. I love how they just put that in there. He's like this stick two chicks in there It is alarming Ariana Huffington

19:20 Investigators say the three men who were arrested are self-proclaimed anarchist and are part of the activist group Black Block. Oh, the Black Block, John. Let's pull that one out of the closet. The Black Block. This goes back to, oh man, I think 1980? Yeah, the black blocks a tactic for protests and marches whereby individuals wear black clothing, scarves, ski masks, motorcycle helmets with padding and other face concealing items. The clothing is used to conceal marchers identities appear theoretically as one large unified mass. developed in 1980, in the 80s by autonomists protesting squatter evictions, nuclear power and restrictions on abortion among other things. Yeah, but the black bloc was basically just... It goes back to the 90s actually with the anti-WTO demonstrations in Europe. I think it goes back even further. Are you consulting the book of knowledge on this? I'm looking at it now, yeah. Yeah, I think it goes back to the 80s. Well, here's another one. Tactic was developed in German origins. Mm-hmm.

20:22 1977 Brockdorf administration. So this is just the idea that you would put on a ski mask or Cover up your face and now you know, where did this come from? There's no organ. This is like anonymous Black block three guys and three drunken guys and a cop that's black block but but the timing is so phenomenally well done that we have the end a NDAA Part Deux, the 2013 version, on the floor of the House with the amendments being discussed, which I want to get into. But also, did you know that a federal judge has ruled against

21:04 Or has ruled section 1021 of the current NDA which was signed into law under the dark of night on New Year's Eve That this federal judge has ruled that it is unconstitutional You know who Chris Hedges is? You've heard of him haven't you? Yeah, Chris Hedges, he's on TV all the time. Well he's a, Chris Hedges is like a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist. He's actually, you'd think he's kind of a shill because he's like New York Times. He seems he has the he has the demeanor of a shill we've actually had clips from him before he Prattles off all this would you know basic information? He paints a picture of you know conspiracies every which way he's very entertaining He shows up a lay used to show up on grit TV and would show up on democracy now quite a bit so he

22:02 He was on, I think, Russia Today, and here he is talking about this. He basically sued the president and I guess the government. I'm not quite sure who he sued, but this federal judge says, yeah, this is completely unconstitutional. Have a listen. Well, it's huge because it invalidates a law that was of course signed by the president on New Year's Eve and permitted the US military for overturning about 200 years of domestic law to engage in domestic policing to seize US citizens

22:40 to hold them in military facilities, including our offshore penal colonies, to strip them of due process, and to detain them in the language of Section 1021, which is the section we challenged. uh... until the end of hostilities whenever that is and i guess in an age of permanent war uh... that's a really long time so uh... it is really really important ruling very courageous ruling by a federal judge katherine forest she rejected all of the government's arguments and the government now has 60 days in which they can appeal, that would take it to an appellate court, or they can do what the lawyers, Carl Mayer and Bruce Afron have called on them to do, and that is to accept the injunction, which essentially kills off this provision. So this is pretty big, and this was a part of the whole discussion on the floor of the House.

23:42 And an amendment came in to basically, you know, either really clarify or strike this whole part out. It really cannot be an American citizen. And then Louie Gohmert, who is Republican from I'm not sure where he's from. Texas. Of course, from Texas. He's a funny guy. Let me give a little background. Sure. You've heard him before on this. Everyone has heard his clips. He's got a distinctive accent. He's the guy who said crap and trade clip from about two or three years ago. And he is always got some very interesting things to say is very much. He just hates the

24:23 Democrats. He, by the way, was also one of these guys crying in his beer over the death of Chuck Colson at this drunk fest. Makes sense. So whether he hates the Democrats or not, he is all for black bagging American citizens and throwing them away. And, you know, we've been looking at the constitutionality of this. And it's an hour long speech. It's in the show notes for one zero dot show notes dot com. You can take a look at the whole thing. And he really starts off by saying journalists suck. You know, no one's done their homework. They're just copycatting. No one's really looking at the Constitution.

25:03 And of course we know that we have the authorization of use of military force, which was enacted by George W. Bush. And he takes it one step further and says Congress has the right to put any kind of tribunal into place we want. So we have bankruptcy courts. So you know, it's like you've got a bankruptcy problem, you're broke, we make up a court, you can go to that. They've got these drug courts, so they can do anything they want. And here's how he rationalizes it. they had failed to notice that in Article 1, Section 8 of our Constitution, it says that Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, and it goes on down and says to constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court. So, really, you could arguably have a federal district court that is set up inferior to the Supreme Court

26:03 Under article 1 section 8 just as you could under article 3. I know there's some that say well No, those are article 3 courts. Well mark 1 section 8 really seems to indicate you could call them Federal District Tribunal you could you could establish those inferior Courts under the Supreme Court under article 1 section 8 Congress is also immediately under that and given the power, shall have the power it says, to define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas and offenses against the law of nations, to declare war, grant letters of mark and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water. We got the power to make those rules of anybody

27:01 who is captured on land or water, power to create the courts. We got the power, we shall have it, to establish uniform rules of nationalization. So he's basically saying, we have the power and we're going to do this. No, yeah, that's what he's saying, but what's he talking about? It's about the military, not about Congress. He's saying that they can put any type of tribunal into place. They could put a thing together, you still have to deal with habeas corpus and the real deal that's in the Constitution. That's not what NDAA is about. It's not saying well Congress should establish a tribunal to find and you know just grab people off the streets and imprison them. It doesn't say, it says the military is now can do this when they feel like it. It's got nothing to do with Congress. What's he talking about?

27:56 Well, this is exactly what he's talking about. He's trying to say that they have the power over the military and they can therefore authorize any type of tribunal, court, or anything they want under congressional authority. That's exactly what he's saying. But there's no tribunal involved. Where's the tribunal? What's the name of this tribunal and who's in it? Hey, why are you fighting me? I'm on your side. I'm on your side on this. Come on. So I actually looked at all the amendments. I'll just run through them really quickly. It was very cute to see Dennis Kucinich really try to get an amendment passed through for this National Defense Authorization Act, which would prohibit the Joint Special Operations Command from conducting signature drone strikes against targets whose identity is not known

28:46 Sorry, yeah now that didn't pass that got struck down. We can't have anything like that. You got like just drone random people Wait, what do we see here? Oh, there's somebody wearing red. You know I hate red. That's a signature amendment number two Notwithstanding any other provision of the law, information acquired by an unmanned aerial vehicle operated by the Department of Defense may not be admitted in a federal court, state court, or court of a political subdivision of a state as evidence against a United States citizen, unless such information was obtained by such unmanned aerial vehicle pursuant to a court order.

29:27 So, if we find it by accident, we won't use it, but we're going to go get a court order and do it. I like that. That just made me feel great. Let me see. Of course, there was one doozy and you know what, I'm going to get to that in a second. But this was interesting. Amendment 38. They revised the 2013 discretionary spending limit and I'm not sure if this is just for the military or if it's the entire, it's actually they modified section 251c of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act amended to read as follows. With respect to fiscal year 2013 for the discretionary category, what does that mean to you?

30:16 Does that mean all that Congress can spend? I think it's probably for the military. By the way, we have to keep reminding ourselves that the military has refused to audit themselves. We have no idea where any of this money is going. So do you know how much this discretionary category is in dollars? I'm sure it's in the multi-billions. 1 trillion 47 billion dollars. It's a little higher than I thought. I had to count them in the zeros. I'm like, this really says $1,047,000,000,000 in new budget authority. I thought we were trying to save money.

30:56 Well, apparently not. That could be a down, who knows? And the wise old Congress has just given the military even more than Obama wanted to give them. And so where's all this cost cutting from the Republicans? It's terrible. So here is the one that says, this is Amendment 45, striking the line habeas corpus rights and changing it to rights unaffected. Now, I'm not a lawyer, but that sounds to me like they're pulling some fast stuff. Notification of detention of persons under authorization for use of military force. Not later than 48 hours after the date on which a person who is lawfully in the United States is detained pursuant to the authorization of use of military force, the president shall notify Congress of the detention of such person. So that'll just be like, we got that curry, we got that Dvorak. Ah, thanks, Prez. All right.

31:52 A person who is lawfully in the United States when detained pursuant to... They'd say who? Well, hold on, hold on. You got, you got... So first of all, give me your name and it'll be alias Smith and Jones. A person who is lawfully in the United States when detained pursuant to the authorization for use of military force shall be allowed to file an application for habeas corpus relief in appropriate district court not later than 30 days after the date on which such person is placed in military custody. So can I have a pen? Here's a piece of paper. You can file this and good luck to you. Okay. Amendment number 47 and this will come back later in the show.

32:39 Relates to the law of the sea and I'm gonna come back to that because that is about to go before The Senate's to be ratified and that's a very important point that we'll talk about later on in today's program We will be removing brigade combat teams from Europe and turning them into a rotational force and And this is to and this is all under NATO our forging a RF or gen to satisfy the commitments undertaken by the United States to article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty to address the current security environment in Europe and to contribute to the peace and stability in Europe So just so y'all you people in Euro land know we're coming there to keep the peace. No worries We're just gonna come and keep the peace now. I

33:26 There's a whole bunch of anti-Russian stuff in the amendments. Amendment 50 passed and with regards to threat reduction and nuclear arms and the START treaty, it's been put on hold until Russia can commit and prove that it is a not providing direct or indirect support to the government of Syria's suppression of the Syrian people not transferring to Iran, North, uh, Iran, North Korea, and Syria equipment and technology that had the potential to make material contribution to the development of weapons of mass destruction and funds planned to be obligated or expended for cooperative threat reduction activities with the Russian Federation. So, it's a big middle finger to Russia saying you've got to prove to us that that you're not doing anything tricky or we're not going to reduce our weaponry which was a big

34:19 Obama agenda item to reduce all that? Well you know we've talked about the Russian connection to this whole thing in Syria from the get-go, very beginning of the whole thing and we've concluded what we've concluded was of course the whole thing is to benefit Russia in some way because they have the ports there and there so we have to assume that and everything calmed down if you recall until just recently So you have to assume that the Russians have somehow reneged on some backroom deal. Well, hello, we got Putin back in. That was the change. Putin came back in. Ooh, okay, everything changes.

34:56 That's what it signifies to me. No, because Putin was doing these deals. I don't think Putin has anything to know. No, he was always running the place. So I'm not buying that. There's something Putin did or somebody did that was violating what we were planning or what was the mess the big plan was. Oh, they messed up the plan. Right, right, right. Somebody messed up the plan. And now, OK, great. You guys want to play that way? You know, we we're trying to be honest, honest. We're trying to be straight up with you guys and you pull this crap. Whatever it was. Honest. I'm honest Abe. Amendment 52, very interesting. The Defense Department is now obligated to use 25% renewable energy to include direct solar renewable energy.

35:47 I found that to be kind of bogative. What? Yeah, we're gonna be charging their walkie-talkie batteries with solar panels in the desert? 25% and now has to be solar energy. Well, that's a scam of some sort. And there's a limitation on military musical units, John. It's about time. Do you know how much money they're allowed to spend on military musical units? You want to talk about our military. How much money do you think has been appropriated to spend on military musical units? And I guess this is marching bands and guys... Yeah. Give them all slide whistles, I say. How much money, John? How much money?

36:34 Oh, I don't know half a billion dollars. No, no and a little over 200 million dollars. Okay, 200 It's not audited, so who cares? Then we have vocal hair. Those bands are good. They are good. They were rolling in that big space shuttle and they had the band playing that. They played everything and they were just, it was hot. I wouldn't mind having an album of those songs. Okay. Well, and I think they should do more slide whistle. That's how they could save money. No tuba, just a slide whistle. All slide whistle. Slide whistle. This is the Navy slide whistle marching band. Ready? Okay, Boko Haram is now formally a terrorist organization. The Boko Haram guys. I liked them when they were doing White or Shade of Pale or whatever that was. Skip the Light Fandango, I know. Yeah. They were a good band. The Boko Haram, that's a Nigerian organization officially titled People Committed to the Propagation of the Prophet's Teachings and Jihad, commonly known as Boko Haram. So they're now officially a terrorist organization.

37:44 There will be a requirement for the Attorney General to investigate possible violations of federal law related to leaks of sensitive information. That's all about... Oh, this is about... It's actually about the Mossad. And not later than 30 days after the day of the enactment of that, Attorney General shall initiate an investigation into possible violations of federal law related to leaks of sensitive information involving the military, intelligence and operational capabilities of the United States and Israel. So is that WikiLeaks you think? Is that what they're talking about there? Probably. Anyway, then of course the big kicker which I've just been buzzing about, the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act. Yeah, we blogged that one. This is inserted into, it's a whole act inserted as an amendment and it deals specifically with the dissemination abroad of information about the United States.

38:40 So, the Secretary of the Broadcasting Board of Governors are authorized to use funds appropriated or otherwise made available for public diplomacy information programs, i.e., psychological warfare, to provide for the preparation, dissemination, and use of the information intended for foreign audiences abroad about the United States. So it's propaganda. This may include Press, publications, radio, motion pictures, the internet and other information media including social media and through information centers, instructors and other direct or indirect means of communication. So that of course is your techno experts, your information centers, instructors and other direct means of communication. But the new beauty that has been added to this is that should, here it is,

39:26 Except this provided in paragraph 2, the Secretary and Broadcast Board of Governors may upon request and reimbursement of the reasonable costs incurred in fulfilling such a request make available in the United States motion pictures, films, video, audio and other materials prepared for dissemination abroad or disseminated abroad pursuant to this Act and it does not matter if it is bestowed upon the people of the United States. The only thing that this, this is very funny, the only thing they want to make sure is if you are going to use propaganda in the United States against the American people, make sure you've paid your royalty rights. That's literally in here. That's the most important thing. Yeah. I gotta make sure. The goal. Yeah. The archivist shall be the official custodian of the material and shall issue necessary regulations to assure

40:14 that persons seeking its release in the United States have secured and paid for necessary United States rights and licenses and that all costs associated with the provision of the material by the archivist shall be paid by the person seeking its release in accordance with the paragraph. So it's okay to propagandize the American people. Just make sure you pay the royalties, otherwise SAG will get all pissed off. The royalties to who? To the actors. It isn't his work for hire. What kind of propaganda are they gonna create? What are you talking about? We we go after the Chinese for doing this. Hold on. Let's back up a minute Okay, so the government this was essentially what this is this is a and people should make no mistake about it when when they want to

41:00 take away that month, what's the name of that thing again? Month, the bill. Oh, no, it's the Smith-Month Modernization Act. The 1948 and it's also the Foreign Relations Authorization Act 1987 which reiterated the Smith-Month. That was the key The original bill was to keep essentially the government from getting... they were specifically afraid of the... Propaganda against the American people. But they were specifically in those days in 1948, they were specifically concerned that the State Department in particular was filled with communists. Right. And they were going to communize the American public with rank propaganda, you know, promoting Russia.

41:47 And that's of course, as a passive we realize that we shouldn't be propagandizing the American public anyways. We're supposed to be getting, the government's supposed to protect us from stuff, not make war on the public, which essentially is this is a war on the American public. There's no mistake about it. Yeah, so I'll just read the rule of construction just so you can hear the language. And this is what we do for you, by the way. Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit the Department of State, i.e. Lucifer, Clippity-Clop, Hillary Clinton, or the Broadcasting Board of Governors. I haven't looked them up. from engaging in any medium or form of communication either directly or indirectly because the United States domestic audience is or may be thereby exposed to a program material or based on a presumptive of such exposure. Such material may be made available within the United States and disseminated when appropriate.

42:41 Pursuant to sections blah blah blah blah. Oh here. This is even better 502 and 1005 the United States information and educational exchange act of 1948 Except that nothing of this section may be construed to authorize Department of State or Broadcasting Board of Governors to disseminate with the United States any program material prepared for dissemination abroad on or before the effective date so You can't do it until this has been enacted. Yeah, well of course a so let's and this was passed of course this My question that I was trying to ask which is about the royalties So what you're telling me is the following the government

43:21 pays for a piece of propaganda that they want to attack the American public. Yes, but when they get that they get the rights for... Wait a minute, let me finish. This is a government... all government creations like this are supposed to be public domain. Ah, no, I think you're misunderstanding something. When they pay for the Bin Laden movie or when they give money to producers to create the SEAL Team 6 propaganda or the Hurt Locker and you can ask any military guy about the Hurt Locker when they actually finance that through front companies and however they do that or maybe it's just through oh yeah well that's different so

44:02 Well, that's what they're saying. And then they are getting when they take those movies and project them into the sand in Iraq and Iran and Syria and on the wall of Tahrir Square and God knows wherever else they put them out there and they get, you know, they release them on YouTube and put videos on the Internet and Hillary's got our techno experts in the Arab Spring and sparking all that off. They have already purchased a license. But they don't have a license for the free the night. It's like a DVD region code. So they got to pay for the region code and they got to pay the unions because they are broadcasting. It's a very simple law. So George Clooney is going to be the richest man in show business and they have to pay for it. And they're very, very clear about it. OK, that's how that's how brazen generally speaking, our government when it comes to the good news is they they suck at this.

45:04 But seriously, when is the last time you saw a movie that said made by the Defense Department? No, they don't do that anymore, John. That's what you... That was all during the war and then this law got passed so they stopped doing it. You're thinking, yeah, World War II. Yeah, they used to make... Here at home, the women are no longer wearing nylon stockings to save for parachutes. I mean, that was propaganda in World War II. These days, it's the herd locker. That's how it works. It's a completely different ball game. And they're just playing ball and making sure they pay their royalties, their rights and licenses. That's how insane this has become. It's totally insane. It's absolutely hilariously crazy. And battleship. I hope our listeners appreciate that.

45:55 That they're getting a little more than me in fact I think they should definitely know that if the government's decided to go into the propaganda business And they they have all the money they can you know pretty much take over the Huffington Post they can do a boost if they haven't already yeah They can do all these things and there'll be no outlet except for the two of us And there's probably one or two other guys. There's a couple of the guys retaining no they don't have slide whistles Yeah, and they don't have slide whistles or they don't have Horses. By the way, I want to thank Sir Alan Bean for the coconut horse thingy. Very nice. Although I haven't really gotten a...

46:39 So the way this program works is very simple. John and I watch all the boring crap. We read all the boring crap. I spent all day yesterday. Yes, I spent all day yesterday going through. And by the way, these amendments, it was not easy because they're not numbered in order. You have to go back and forth between three sheets and you have to see which one was passed, which one wasn't passed. And then you have to coordinate that with the C-SPAN videos. It's a complicated process. it particularly for a disc jockey to be quite honest it's like it's not easy for me I'd smoke. You have a skewed perspective. I had smoke coming out of my ears. And the other thing that's interesting about our show I think is that because the two of us don't have the exact same perspective if one of us starts to go off the track like you commonly will with reality TV shows the other one can nudge the person back into reality real reality. Yeah yeah right. And I have been suckered into thinking

47:35 Yeah, I was very close to hooking you on that idiot talking in Congress. The idiot talking in Congress? Yeah. The guy who started the whole show. I don't even know the guy's name. So boring. What's his name? Yeah. Yeah. So that's how it works. Yeah, no, I didn't want to play it. No, good. So let's thank some... We need to thank some producers instead of criticize me. Or me! You criticized me first! Oh, that's because... You know why? Because the Euro thing is coming up. Isn't it? Oh yeah. The Eurozone, what is it called? The Eurozone show? What is it called? What do you mean the Eurozone? Eurovision. Oh, the Eurovision song contest, yeah. Yeah. Why is that thing so popular? Because it's a bonanza. It's a television ratings bonanza. Why? Why? Because it enables people to get pissed off at their neighbors.

48:30 Now we'll get into that. It's like the World Cup. Yeah, we'll get into that. Let's thank our producers who have supported all this work that we're doing. Okay, well we do have one, two, three, four, five associate executives and one executive producer who actually came in last Thursday. Sir Gere, he's in Taiwan at the moment, has sent you, he sent us $660, but he did it as a direct infusion into the bank account with the methodologies called bank transfers. He wanted to donate it for the 17th of May which is Norwegian Constitution Day of 1814 which is something we failed to mention. I'm amiss here. And then he says even though the bloody Swedes kept their reign on us until 1905 when we became a free people

49:26 And by the way, the Norwegians are more free than the Swedes now because they are not in the EU. The Swedes and the Danes are however regarded as cousins so no hard feelings at all but we love our freedom and wonderful flag as you can see in the picture from the traditional children's parade. Never a military parade in Oslo. No EU on us, no EUR for us as long as we keep pumping oil and it seems peak oil does not apply to this nation. Together with my earlier 440 I should qualify for a second knighthood I would like to donate it to my son Dan in Los Angeles the brother of Sir Paul Oh The former artwork contributor busy with finalizing his MBA in Shanghai We have a lot of international I was gonna say we are we are bad and international. Yeah

50:09 So he'll be Sir Daft. Do we have him on the list? Let me just check and make sure it's as Sir Daft. Yes, yes. Thank you, Buzzkill Jr. Yeah, he's on the list. Good. Well, thank you. That's very kind of you, sir. Care now we have our associate executive producers in the first one that came in was Carrie Shuren And I have a little story to tell a little later about this, but Carrie of course is the jogger and in Deutschland Yes, she runs with No agenda on her, but right no ask forces commas is and she sent a photo. It's got a nice But wait a minute says ask forces calm. I didn't get the photo. Oh, that's a shame I

50:56 Is it on askforces.com? What is this, a porn site? Type it in. It goes to us, askforces.com. So you figured that putting askforces.com on the Hunter butt as people were jogging they'd go by and say well that's interesting, I wonder what that means. I wonder what that could mean. Because it's more compelling than noagendashow.com. And it's shorter. This is a very good idea if you've got a sweet butt, Put ass forces calm on it and just like juicy. You know these women walk around with a juicy What does that mean I actually find it slightly disgusting this juice? Imagine a bunch of juice juice doesn't sound like juicy, but yes This is a cheese lady ass forces calm send me the email of her ass. Will you the picture she sent it by mail?

51:43 It's an actual photo I have in my hand. Oh, you have it on the wall. I'll scan it in for you. Oh, cool. Anyway, she broke a bone in her own ass, she says, and the orthopedic says no, she couldn't do the Salzburg Marathon. Oh, no. And I thought she'd send the 10 bucks per mile anyway in order to finally complete her knighthood. She's now a dame and like to share a simple karma shot to the two of you, my husband, Steven, and the guy who came up with the assforces.com domain name forward. I wish her luck on a speedy butt recovery. Oh yes, well this is towards... Now do you think her butt is in a cast? Apparently I think it's... I guess... I didn't... Well, maybe. I mean, I doubt it. You've got karma. She had to stay off it or sit on a... on a... on a... Yeah. Pillow or... Easy with that ass. You can't run apparently. Don't tap it. Monica Lansing, Drayton Valley, Alberta. Wow, two women in a row. Awesome.

52:42 $2.67, $0.07 saying, oh by the way, Carrie also said in $0.07, literally, nickel and two pennies to tell us that she doesn't like the slide whistle but she thinks it should be defended. I've been listening to you a few months now, I must say that this is Monica, find you very entertaining, felt sorry for your donations have been down as of late so I'm doing my bit to help keep your ribs apart. Please send some good karma my way, don't send the bad stuff. We only have good stuff for you Monica, here it is. You've got karma. Also lining up in the associate executive producer queue is Gene Neftuliev, Frisco, Texas.

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54:05 At least four of the of the stall hall, you know, the the stall guys the the farmers like hey man That's a good book. It's a good it's all about the elites taking over. It's great. Good book, man It's like it's happening now, man. I'm like, that's right farmer Chris. That's right. Andy Andy the bean sprout guy. Yeah, right No comment, sir. Pete from Amsterdam, Amsterdam, Colorado if it says here Yeah Pate or snakes, right? Sir Pate. Yeah, Sir Pate. Although you guys turned me into a cranky jaded crackpot, I'm pretty sure I also got to be cooler. Cracking down on oblivious marketing douchebags with cold hard analysis I picked up from the show seems to attract the ladies in a weird brainiac kind of way. Hey! Alright! Excellent!

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56:53 Let me lighten the mood for a second here John so on Thursday we Received the sad news that Donna Summer had passed away at age 63 I met with her work with her several times. She's actually incredibly nice and one of our producers Dave King Yeah, if you ever listen to the Particularly the 17-minute version of love to love you baby. There's this wicked ass bass bass line in there that is one of our no agenda listeners one of our producers from Gitmo nation douche land and Dave King lives there and teaches a time a bass player admitted to listening to the show yeah We don't have enough of them. We're finally getting chicks now. We need more bass players, so I'm I'm squirreling through the dial

57:50 And only MSNBC would be able to do this report and politicize the death of Donna Summer in a way that was so, not only unbelievable, incredible, disgusting, but just like, just blew my mind. I had to share it with you. Are you familiar with this guy Toure? Yeah, I am this guy to array who I guess he wrote a book He's on MSNBC all the time. Yeah, I think he was the guy that got in Pierce Moran's face about the the Trayvon thing so it's kind of an idiot if you ask me and It was like it started on MTV to or whatever. Yeah, okay, I

58:38 So just listen to this report and I cut out the whole beginning part because yeah it's sad. Disco Queen Donna Summer did. Listen to what this guy does. I mean Donna Summer had a big lush beautiful voice. She was there at the beginning of disco. One of the people who helped disco rise into prominence. It was sort of a New York and Philadelphia thing that became a global phenomenon. You know, she had an incredible song called Love to Love You Baby, which played for 17 minutes in the real true long version that they played in the clubs. And she approached it as if she said, what would Marilyn Monroe do with this vocal?

59:17 And she cooed and she sort of moaned. And you know, in some clubs and some radio stations, they were afraid to play it because it was too suggestive and too sexual. But that was the nature of disco. That was the nature of the time. He's an idiot. And it's sort of interesting to approach this story at this moment in politics because of course she's the queen of disco and disco was all about gay exuberance and joy and having this culture that was sort of centered around that sort of cultural energy that they were all about. I'd like to contest that by the way. I'd like to contest that that's what disco was about. Coke.

59:58 It was about coke and about the music industry automating music. That's what it was about. It was not, yeah, the gay culture gravitated towards it, but it wasn't just gay culture. In the early days it wasn't gay? No, it was just dance music. It was just another... Yeah, it was just dance music during, which is a cycle. No, no, he's gonna... I mean, listen... This is, Lemon is projecting in a funny way. Not Lemon, Toure. When we're done with this, make sure we play a Lemon clip that I have to show you what a giggling fool the guy actually is. Yeah, but this is Toure. Is this Toure? He's not gay. Lemon is gay. Yes. Toure not. We don't know that for sure. Is Toure married? Yes, he is. Does he have kids? Yes.

1:00:37 His kid's name is Hendrix. This is what kind of an idiot this guy is. Hendrix. Oh yeah, this is a tribute to my pal Jimmy. The guy's like 39. Shut up. Now listen to how he's going to take this into the whole gaygate debate. And you know, I've never seen a movement in America to crush a musical genre in the way that this sort of almost organized anti-disco movement rose up. and people wearing Death to Disco shirts and really an attack on what Donna Summer and others were doing and you know it was almost like you know get back in the closet you can't have something for yourself and no listen to array the reason why we were wearing death to disco shirts is because it sucked

1:01:21 That's why. Not because we want gay people to get back in the closet. And this guy doesn't stop. And it was, it reminds me of the discussion around marriage equality that you can't have this for yourself, you can't have equality, you can't be out and normalized in the public, you must be in the closet and... Oh yeah, is that why Modern Family has a gay couple who are trying to adopt a kid? Is that because the culture is like that, Toure? You asswipe. Quiet about what you love. So you think that disco ended because of a sort of a political reaction within the music industry rather than an evolution into hip-hop rap and the other forms of music?

1:01:59 into hip-hop you idiot and we had punk let me think did we have the Sex Pistols the Ramones you know this was the it may I could almost make the argument that it may have evolved into trance or electronic not it was punk that came in punk came in but it wasn't as an evolution from disco it was a revolution musical It was the revolution because we had the crazy 70s and everything was growing great and then all of a sudden boom huge crisis and particularly in the UK and the English people were angry and thin and walking around with pitchforks and that's when we had God Save the Queen and that started a whole counter revolution. It didn't go straight into hip-hop.

1:02:45 The only... Well the other thing is is that what do... Are we supposed to be still listening to 23 Skadoo? I mean or stuff from the 20s or 30s. I mean all musical things come and go. But listen to what he says next John. We're still not listening to The Beatles are we? I hope not. I do. Listen to what he says next. I think that's absolutely right that there was a homophobic and a certain... Homophobic? There you go. What? as an irrational fear of homosexuals. So in other words during this disco era which by the way did become, the reason I think it died, it became tiresome. No you're wrong, you're wrong. Here's what, here's the truth. It was boring after 10 years of it. Here's what Toure says. Racist response against disco. Largely not just from the music industry but from a large group of fans who wanted to proclaim the resurgence of

1:03:40 of white male power of rock and- AHH! If I see this guy, I'm gonna strangle him! What do you mean white male power rock? This is such proper and disgusting b-crap. This is- role and punk, almost again, sort of a systematic like, we're going to attack disco and push it back into the closet. What hip-hop did is- So basically- So now what they're claiming- Let me just try to look at this. Since I never heard this clip. They're claiming that the entire disco movie which began in this I guess the late 70s if I'm not mistaken or the early guys from Australia the the Bee Gees had a lot to do with it Which is a white group if I'm not mistaken Very very wise all because everyone was gay. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it was like jeez I'm stunned by this because

1:04:29 Because I actually went to the Palladium a few times when I was in New York, when they used to have the big giant places. I have pictures of you at Studio 54 snorting the line. Yeah, and so you'd go in there and there was all these gorgeous women, I guess they were just a bunch of transsexuals. Well, there were some. But yeah, the whole thing, but then to take it from this reminds me of how we want, how our culture wants to put gay people back into the closet. That is a blatant lie. Yes, exactly. It is a blatant, blatant lie. Gayness is everywhere and it's groovy and no one gives a crap. We just, just people like this guy.

1:05:07 just want to propagate some kind of hatred which is so unnecessary. This is not helping. So I'm watching this stupid show. And he goes, they start talking about the transsexual beauty pageant. Oh, the Miss Universe? Yeah. And they go into this like little chatter, it's kind of giggly, and then they have some dingbat ex-beauty queen on there who says, well she's a winner, she doesn't want anything. And Lemon, I think, really shows his true colors here. He apparently always hated beauty pageants, which seems like something gay guys are like. But play this and you can just see what it's like. It makes your skin crawl. This search is amazing!

1:05:50 People are afraid, John. They're just afraid. We want the before pictures. Listen, she's a beautiful young lady. And my thing is not about transgender people. It's just about beauty pageants. And Miss Reckway has schooled me here. And now I have evolved on the beauty pageant issue. Yes, absolutely. And if Jenna gets nothing else out of this, she's a role model for transgender people everywhere. And she's already won in my eyes. Very nice. Thank you, guys. You know, why is it no wonder CNN has got those ratings you talked about? Yeah, with none zero, there's zero rating. They're just one step away from the asterisk. They are they are an asterisk I think. Ah, that's just oh, wow. I just I'm like wow. This is no wonder people tune into our show.

1:06:46 Some few couple a couple a couple And the ones that tune in have broken butts. It's like Bring your degenerates to no agenda, and that's what we're here for yeah, I'm broken, but girl yeah, so I found I found a lot of Interesting someone sent me this clip from CBS. I have a feeling this producer actually works at CBS We have a couple you know a lot of people who work in video production and And this is, let me just get the guy's name, because when I found out who he worked for and then I looked into this outfit, it was another one of these 501c3 companies. Not four, but three, which means you don't have to disclose your donors. But this was the biggest form 990 I've ever read, which is required

1:07:39 By the by the IRS this guy's name is M. San San Jayaan M San Jayaan is a chief scientist and I can tell the organization yet But just listen to and you remember we read the IPCC report about how to manage risk to influence adaptation of climate change Right? So in other words... But I think that there was some... it was how to manage a crisis. It was how to take a crisis and use it to leverage people going or buying all in or pushing all in on climate change... what's it... script. Yes. So this guy took the script and made this piece on CBS which is just unbelievable. Paul felt it firsthand.

1:08:30 Each and every one of our 50 states had a new record high temperature in the past 12 months. If you were born after 1985, you've never known what normal is because the last 326 months have been consistently warmer than the 20th century global average. Now, I'm sorry, but I'm just not going to buy this, but okay, we'll float with you for a second here, but you don't know what normal is. This is a very propagandistic thing to say. You have, in short, been living on a planet with a fever. I got a fever! I got a fever and my planet needs more cowbells! Whether or not we understand or accept the science of climate change, we're now almost immaterial. We're no longer talking about change to our planet at some distant time or in some faraway place, but change that is happening right here, right now, in our own backyards. In Texas, after enduring months of drought, many ranches are simply getting out.

1:09:29 They're quietly sending their cattle north. You should see the pictures of this. He literally shows guys like herding cattle up the road. Over a million head of cattle have been sent out of the state. They've been trucked to greener, wetter, cooler pastures in northern states like Montana and Nebraska. These cows won't be back. In our cities, often heat traps in the summer. The vulnerable and the elderly suffer the most. So first he's talking about America. Now he's going to move over just and bring Europe into it. In Europe, just a few years ago, over 70,000 people died, many in France, during one long, unbelievably hot summer. Because they didn't have air conditioning. That's why. Hold on a second. What is this you're playing? This is a CBS News report.

1:10:14 It's going on forever, news reports are supposed to be like 30 seconds. Well it's a package and when you find out who's behind it you'll understand how this was... Is this network? This is network, yeah, this is big time network, cbsnews.com, big time network. It's already way beyond the package limits as far as I'm concerned. Yeah but wait until you hear how this was paid for. Now he's bringing in, and this was seven years ago I think when we had that heat wave in Europe. He conveniently forgets the people who died in the freezing cold in the UK for the past four years. But okay, we'll let you slide. While these cities had plans for natural disasters, few had thought about direct heat. And the citizens and government officials were just simply caught off guard. Now the insurance industry does not have to be convinced that the change in climate is real.

1:11:05 They virtually all have strategy groups inside their companies that are assessing the risk of climate change. More violent and frequent storms, floods, and rising sea levels are at the very top of their list. Rising sea levels. State Farm won't sell insurance in Florida. Many companies are just reluctant to insure coastal properties. Because of hurricanes? Yeah. And that leaves the government and the taxpayer to foot the bill. By the way, that's an outrageous comment. That's where the danger comes in and you'll hear Obama say this later on in the show. He's saying because insurance companies won't insure it because of hurricanes, the taxpayer has to foot the bill. I think I constitutionally disagree with that statement. Look, when my insurance agent worries about something bad happening, it's probably time for me to be worried as well. Climate change is no longer an issue for the future.

1:11:59 This is our society's sink or swim moment. The science is in! Science! So this guy is a chief scientist. You ready for it? Okay. At the Nature Conservancy. Are you familiar with the Nature Conservancy? No, but I will be shortly. Oh my goodness. So this is nature.org. And I've seen many Articles from nature org I had no idea. Do you know how much money they have as reported in in? 2011 more than we're making five billion dollars This is a nonprofit with five billion dollars their total in getting it more from just nickels and dimes from the public then oh yeah, their total income is

1:12:56 for 2011 was $997 million, almost a billion dollars, of which $653 million is from grants. A lot of it, in fact, our government Receive gives them 150 million hundred forty nine million dollars But if you look at their form 990 and just go to nature dot org look at their board of directors You'll see these the board the board of directors all making three four hundred thousand dollars a year The CEO of the president and everybody the way this to me this is the biggest lobbying organization that I've ever seen and

1:13:39 Except they're a non-profit and they get money from universities from land trust just from and they own land this I had never I had no idea about these guys five billion dollars and You just you just look at where all the money is coming from if it's mind-boggling their salaries for 2011 271 million dollars they paid in salaries alone. That's what they paid out and Yeah, you don't need to be a profitable company if you just want to score money. Director and President Mark Tersek makes $493,000 a year. I mean, everyone's making two to three hundred grand, even the acting chief philanthropy officer. It's just crazy. And then they have, here's what they pay to outside consultants. Marge Whitman I see is on here. Maggie's there.

1:14:38 Cornerstone Partners, they paid them $2 million to manage their investments. Donor Services Group, $1.4 million. Coastal Environments Inc. I mean, I didn't have enough time in the day to look at all of these organizations that are involved with this. This is huge. Now what they paid out, they only paid out $118 million. on their fundraising events, so they get grants but they also do fundraising events. They lost half a million dollars on their fundraising events because it was basically just parties. So they had gross receipts, two million, less charitable contributions, and then the actual expenses minus $502,000, $502,915.

1:15:32 And then you just see where all this money comes from. World Wildlife Fund gives them $770 million. Arizona Land and Water Trust. This has got to be a huge... And they spend money on lobbyists. It's just... I'd never... Nature.org! I mean, I read articles from them all the time. I didn't know that this was a huge propaganda machine. $5 billion. They've got hedges. Morgan Stanley does their hedge fund. Doesn't say how much and of course except for the grants from universities all the universities give money to them. There's no No names of donors, and these are the people now propagating their formula M Sanjeevan so when you figure you see yeah, they got to be buying commercials I mean this is bought and paid for so that was a package on CBS yes and

1:16:38 And I have the form 990 from the South in the show notes. 410.nashownotes.com if you want to take a look at it. Yeah, that's the only way you get anything out of this. The Science Conservation by Design, the Science Council is theirs. Our Science Conservancy's board membership includes several highly regarded scientists, I would hope. Well, like this guy. I don't see him listed. The Science Council members are John Rodriguez of the Venezuelan Institute for... He's in the form 990. I think he makes $230,000 a year. Gretchen Daly at Stanford? Yeah, oh yeah, Stanford gives a couple hundred grand a year. How come they're not giving it to their students? No, they're taking it from their students. Don't you understand? They have no money because they're giving it to these guys. Five billion dollars they've got. Five billion dollars!

1:17:41 And look at the board. It's all Goldman Sachs, Morgan, JP Morgan Chase. It's all bankers. This is a big banker ripoff. Totally. Yeah. But really well done. And it's all under nature.org. It sounds so groovy. Habitats, regions, urgent issues. Yeah. Urgent issues they spent some money for this website. This is not a slouch of a website It has loaded with stuff and great pictures. There's a picture on urgent issues of a bunch of people moving mud Line of them. Hey man moving moving mud is good because you can make cakes out of that in Haiti, but they eat mud cakes one of the things is migratory birds are priceless part of our heritage. They're beautiful and

1:18:32 They reflect the health of our environment and they are economically important. Preserving and protecting bird habitat has always been a core part of the Conservancy's mission. Really? And you know who else gives them money? Duck blinds in Fairfield? What are you talking about? Ducks.org gives them money too. Ducks.org gives them $75,000 a year. Ducks.org. This is just a money sink. How are people getting suckered into giving them money? Well, it's our taxes that are paying for a large portion of it. Well, not in comparison, but I think it's... There's somebody here that's a salesperson that is just... It would be worth protégéing yourself to her. I mean, the guy's got to be a genius. It's got to be one. And he won't be the top guy, it'll be one of the guys just underneath.

1:19:25 There's always the case. There's a couple of geniuses on there. It's a big drinking club, of course. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they spend by the money. They spend half a million on the parties. Oh, they spend more, but they lost half a million on the parties. Right. So you got to be spending tons of money on the parties. Right. Yeah. Just got to be a great club. Yeah. And guess what? We're not in it. No. No. No. And after this report we will never be in it. You think? But we'll keep an eye on it. Oh yeah. So these nature.org, five billion dollars. That was very surprising to me. Like wow. It's a non-profit tech exempt charitable organization under section 501c3 of the Internal Revenue Code so when you give them money you get a tax write-off. Yep. And they get to drink better stuff. I'm sure they're drinking the good stuff already.

1:20:16 That's why we belong there. Ah, we know, no invites, no invites for us. We're off the list. Well, let's see what we got. So I'm watching the BBC and I watched this one little segment And it's talking about, and the reason that I think of this now is because after talking about this great scam, there is of course one of the greatest scams that we've ever seen or witnessed and something we should all be inspired by. The Olympics. Which is the Olympic bull crap. Of course. So they brought the fire, the flame, the eternal flame, the thing we should all bow down to, get on our knees and pray to, into England and the BBC has this report. I'd be lighting my doobie with it. Out of a gloomy sky, a golden delivery. Golden! After all the talk, the grand plans and of course the money, London's Olympic moment had at last arrived.

1:21:18 Hundreds had come to greet British Airways flight 2012 at Caldwell's Royal Naval Base in Cornwall this evening and its very special cargo. When it eventually emerged held tightly by the Princess Royal, it didn't look very much but there inside this little hurricane lamp was the Olympic flame. It's only really when the torch comes into your possession and actually gets here that you really realise this is it. All eyes then switched to sporting royalty for the lighting of the cauldron which marks the start of London's 70-day torch relay tomorrow. This has been 10 years in the making and the start of the 70-day countdown. And the flame is here, finally on British soil. The flame is here. For the trip from Athens, the flame and its three backups were fitted into safety cradles with VIP treatment all the way.

1:22:15 This is what a crock of crap this stupid flame which has gone out numerous times. We know that for a fact the high priestess as they call her let her go out if it was like given to us from the Greek, the gods of the Greek and Roman era. And this flame has always been lit and it's some magical thing and it goes from person to person to person and now it's in these little bitty, they had it in a little bitty piece of shit thing. It looked like a Ronson lighter is inside there. Like one of those smelly candles. It's like a little bitty thing. And so then when she comes out, she's now I understand and it's all religious. It's also religious. It's almost satanic religion. Right. A violation of the Ten Commandments. This is nothing more than idolatry of a flame. The whole thing is just re.

1:23:03 It's it's sickening that people are this much into this and they they go along with it No, they got their medals and they go perform for free. You know, I'm a performer I'm gonna run real fast and you know I'm gonna do and a month months and months of my life or my whole life for that matter to get into these Olympics it is such It's such a bogus operation and the people that run it are assholes. Oh total the the IOC are elitist pricks so you know that the that One of the Olympic torches went up for sale on eBay. Did you know that? Well, it was one... No, I didn't know that. But it's one of the torches they hold. You know, I was in Texas one year when there was Olympics here in the country. And I just happened to be in Dallas where there was a torch, I guess, was gonna go running by. Because I'm driving around and typically, I don't know why I do this, but every time I see a huge crowd gathering, I park and go find out what's the deal. And then there's a bunch of people standing around. You're an ambulance chaser is what you are. Yeah. And there wasn't that many people, but there was a number of them. They're standing on both sides of the street and they said,

1:24:07 I asked one of them what's going on and he says, oh there's a, the Olympic torch is coming by. I said, oh, okay. So I stood there and watched and some idiot runs by in the jogging pants with a thing holding this stupid torch and he runs by down the block and takes a right and that was that. And I'm thinking, this is the stupidest thing to wait around for. Who cares? Yeah, there are 8,000 of these torches because a whole bunch of people get to hold it for a second. But you get your own torch and you get to keep the torch. And this is the Guardian writing this, Olympic torch up for sale on eBay hours after it arrives in the UK. It's so, this is so awesome. 495 pounds for an Olympic torch. But along these lines. Made in China. Someone sent me this, one of our producers, and it relates to the Olympics. This is from the Rockefeller Foundation.

1:25:05 It's a pamphlet and I have the PDF in the show notes scenarios for the future of technology and international development and This is kind of like and the reason why I was sent to me of course was you know when you have these these papers like what did we have the project for a new American century where it literally in the document said, you know, we could have planes flying into the world World Trade Center You know this right? You know this right? Okay. So let me just give you a couple of highlights and then we'll get to the punchline of this. The Rockefeller Foundation believes that in order to understand the many ways in which technology will impact international development in the future, we must first broaden and deepen our individual and collective understanding of the range of possibilities. Their support and the project upon which it is based

1:25:53 one attempt to do that. We share the outputs and insights from a year-long project, year-long, undertaken by the Rockefeller Foundation and the Global Business Network designed to explore the role of technology in international development and scenario planning. So they have four basic scenarios of the future. So these they're looking into the future. The scenarios are lockstep A world of tighter top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership with limited innovation and growing citizen pushback. They have hack attack, an economically unstable and shock-prone world in which governments weaken, criminals thrive, and dangerous innovations emerge. They have clever together.

1:26:38 A world in which highly coordinated and successful strategies emerge for addressing both urgent and entrenched worldwide issues, which of course is what they're pushing. And they have smart scramble, an economically depressed world in which individuals and communities develop localized makeshift solutions to a growing set of problems, which is probably the most likely if you ask me. But then I'm reading through these different scenarios and they're saying all these things that can happen. So let's, here's their, these are smart people right? The Rockefeller Foundation. They're looking into the future John. They spent a year. So under the lockstep scenario, here's what'll happen. In 2012, the pandemic that the world had been anticipating for years finally hit.

1:27:21 Unlike 2009's H1N1, this new influenza strain, originating from wild geese, was extremely virulent and deadly. Even the most pandemic prepared nations were quickly overwhelmed when the virus streaked around the world infecting nearly 20% of the global population and killing 8 million in just seven months. The majority of them healthy young adults. The pandemic also had a deadly effect on economies. International mobility of both people and goods screeched to a halt, debilitating industries like tourism and breaking global supply chains. So that's not a nice scenario. Let's go to the next one.

1:28:03 Clever together the recession of 2008 2010 did not turn into the decades-long economic slide that many had feared in fact quite the opposite Strong global growth returned in force with the world headed once again towards the demographic and economic projections Forecasted before the downturn. Oh, yeah, that's playing out India and China were on track to see their middle classes explode to 1 billion by 2020. Mega cities like Sao Paulo and Jakarta expanded at a blistering pace as millions poured in from rural areas. Countries raced to industrialize by whatever means necessary. The global marketplace bustled. Okay. Let's go to the next scenario. So then we have the smart scramble. Wait, wait, before you go on, and I do enjoy these. Yes. Is there the scenario where the 2008 thing crashed, then it crashed again, and then we went into a depression that lasted until 2020? Yeah, here's the smart scramble. This is what I think is probably what we're on track for.

1:29:04 The global recession that started in 2008 did not trail off in 2010, but dragged onward. Vigorous attempts to jumpstart markets and economies didn't work, or at least not fast enough to reverse the steady downward pull. The combined private and public debt burden hanging over the developed world continued to depress economic activity, both there and in developed countries with economies dependent on exporting to formerly rich markets. Without the ability to boost economic activity, many countries saw their debts deepen and civil unrest and crime rates climb. The United States too lost much of its presence and credibility on the international stage due to deepening debt, debilitating markets, and a distracted government. This in turn led to the fracturing or decoupling of many international collaborations started by or reliant on the U.S. continued strength.

1:29:55 And that goes on and on, but here's the one... Here's the one that just might play out. Remember now, sometimes these guys... Some will say they put it in there just to mess with you. Say, we're gonna put the plan out there. Here's the plan. This is the scenario hack attack. Devastating shocks like September 11th, the Southeast Asian tsunami of 2004, and the 2010 Haiti earthquake had certainly primed the world for sudden disasters. But no one was prepared for a world in which large-scale catastrophes would occur with such breathtaking frequency.

1:30:35 The years 2010 to 2020 were dubbed the Doom Decade for good reason. The 2012 Olympic bombing which killed 13,000 was followed closely by an earthquake in Indonesia killing 40,000, a tsunami that almost wiped out Nicaragua, and the onset of the West China famine caused by a once-in-a-millennium drought linked to climate change. No! Science! So there you go. Are you gonna be one of the 13,000 to die in the 2012 Olympic bombing? No, I'd stay away. I'm not going now. I had plans. I'm staying far, far away. How crazy are these guys? I don't know. I'd like to see. I mean, it'd be interesting to see if there was a 2,000. It's just ludicrous. I mean, they got that. Ugh, never mind. How awesome is this? And it's annoying. It's not just annoying. It's frightening these people put that out there. I'd say.

1:31:35 If something happens, then Rockefellers are behind it. Yes, that would be my guess. I'd say it. There's a thing that reminds me of today's Sunday business page of the New York Times, I normally don't go into it, but they have this huge top-of-the-fold giant illustration And I just looked at this and said, what is the message here? So a big giant headline and a big giant illustration taken up the whole top of the fold of the first page of the Sunday business section that says, is insider trading part of the fabric?

1:32:13 Is it? Now what does this mean? Does this mean that the New York Times people themselves are insider training knowing that the paper is going to be sold in the next few months? Do you really believe it? That's my guess, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, interesting. Do you think that's what's happening? Something's up. Why would Carlos Slim sell it? I mean, it's a great propaganda machine, isn't it? Somebody's going to... he doesn't own it. Carlos Slim, I thought he owned it. No he has a piece of it. Maybe I don't even know that he does no no By the family that family the Salzburg's these guys sell 900,000 papers a day this like who gives a crap they did their numbers They don't they look into the future they you know then they're so good at this by the way because they bloated left and right But they they don't like what they see anyway. I think it's time to before I play a funny clip this off topic

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1:44:08 If you're looking for bad crap to happen, I'd say it would be there. And where would they come up with this crazy number? The 13,000? Oh, I'm sure it's all symbolic. The whole thing is one big Illuminati satanic fest. I had to read through that whole thing, you know. Yeah, this is a lot. This is all yeah, but this is the kind of thing you that I do thrive joy. Yeah, I was actually legislation. I got it last night at like quarter to 12. I'm like, honey, why don't you go to bed because it's going to be a while. I got to read it. I can't help myself. Just love it. Just love it. Dude, dude, dude, we had the G8 happening there at Camp David's.

1:44:56 And, uh, boy does that- when you see- did you see the picture of those douche knuckles? And them standing there in the grass waving like, this is really- this is the new world order? It kind of gave me hope. These- these idiots can't run anything. They can't run a blender. But, uh, President Obama said something very interesting at the kickoff of this meeting. First of all, I want to welcome all the leaders here. Uh, the press, you're welcome as long as you don't break anything. Oh ho ho ho ho ho ho ho! He's so funny! This is, by the way, the largest gathering ever of international leaders at Camp David. And I'm glad that we could arrange for good weather. Oh, did you hear that?

1:45:44 Yeah, he arranged for good weather. He's putting a little call to your clients. It's climate change guys Hey boys turn on the harp. I need some good weather that we could arrange for good weather Good weather good weather. Let's go. No 30 seconds of important information here We had a discussion about Syria and we all believe that a peaceful resolution and political transition in Syria is preferable. So there you go. That is just in case you missed it. Preferable to what? To killing people with bombs and predator drones. But he's talking about a peaceful transition. He's not talking about Assad stopping killing people as he purports.

1:46:28 He's saying we got to get him out. So we're all in agreement. This is the same exact script as Libya. And so Assad now has X number of days and he won't do it because the same script also in the case the guys that you know the leaders aren't buying into it. You give the same opportunity they gave to Mubarak, the same opportunity they gave to the dead guy in Libya, Gaddafi. Which is you will set you up in Switzerland or something if you want to give up now. Yeah or Do a deal with us, get out, and you'll be fine, you'll be good to go. Or that, or that, or you get, yeah, you're dead. One of the two, it's up to you. Let's see what else they discuss here. This morning we're going to be spending a lot of time on economic issues. Obviously the Eurozone will be one topic. Now listen very closely. And all of us are absolutely committed

1:47:23 to making sure that both growth and stability and fiscal consolidation are part of an overall package that all of us have to pursue. Wait a minute. Growth and stability are part of an overall package that all of us have to pursue? Who's weak, he must say. Do we, are we now? My understanding is that the Federal Reserve has said no to giving any assistance to the central banks of Europe. Well I think Obama just said that we all have to be a part of that. It sounded to me. Maybe as cheerleaders, I don't know what. Well here's... Cheerleaders aren't in the game. So Haiku Herman, who by the way was wearing a very nice pink sweater, a jumper we call it, pink sweater over a shirt. Pink?

1:48:13 Really? Yeah, look at the pictures. Pink. Wow. Yeah. He had his own little press conference and he is very, very clear. And the way, from all the information I've received, it looks like Greece is just over. He's going to say a couple of things that are just astounding to me. These guys really don't want Greece to exit. They really don't because they know it's gonna collapse the banks And I and I think from everything I've read and I'd love to hear your opinion if Greece goes It will collapse at least a portion of the banking system. What's your thought? well the numbers that keep coming in that people do the calculation on the Greeks leaving the EU are the the eurozone the You know, which is the zone of people that use the euro. It's a trillion

1:49:03 Yeah, a trillion. So they have seven... Now whether that would collapse the whole thing? Well, no one has it. This is the problem. They've got to keep this going until July 11th because July 11th is when the European stability mechanism goes into effect and there's no discussion about this. Is that when the Germans take over? No, the European stability mechanism which I remember I read the documents and they were supposed to go in in 2015. They moved it up. To 2000 maybe was 2013, but they moved it up to July and said we got to put this in now It's an initial 700 billion euros from every country I think the Netherlands themselves have to pay 40 billion into this fund which is their entire GDP 40 billion It's not the GDP. It's there. It's the entire number they collect from taxes is 40 billion and

1:49:56 But it's open-ended. So whenever there's a cash call, whenever they need more money, then Brussels just said, time to pay up. And everyone has to pay, otherwise, you know, you get the troika on your butt. So I think they're going to keep it going till July. I don't know how. But listen to what Haiku says. We are listening, of course, to the Greek people. But we have to respect the engagements taken in the past. and we have the Greek democracy, but we have also democracies of the other countries, the 16 other countries, and they are engaging also taxpayers' money. Ah, you hear that? They are engaging taxpayers' money. So Greeks, he's literally shaking the finger at the Greeks saying, if you don't, if you're not on board, 16 other countries will hate you.

1:50:46 Because you're messing with their tax money. This isn't about the banks going down No, then the other slaves will have to pay for what you don't do Greece and so it's a balance the balance and I think after reflection Everybody has to take his responsibilities Greeks you better take your responsibility Reflection after just think about it you better do better play along and But if needed, and I repeat what I said, if needed, we will do whatever to guarantee the financial stability of the Eurozone. Wow, that sounds threatening to me. We will do whatever is needed to guarantee the stability of the financial zone.

1:51:35 So... The Eurozone. So... We did it in the past, in difficult... Yes, in World War II. ...difficult circumstances. And we will do World War I, do it in the, if needed, in the future. We will do it again! For the West, if we are thinking at different scenarios, we are responsible people and we will take our responsibilities at the right time. That sounds threatening to me. Yeah. To me that's like, whoa, really? He's not messing around. He's not messing around Meanwhile in they made their bed Meanwhile in Greece the Nazis are in I was not aware of this the what are they called? I think they're called the golden Nazis. Yeah, I Think they're called the Golden Dawn

1:52:33 Yeah, let's listen to the report. The city of Athens is the birthplace of democracy, but it's also home to a right-wing extremist group that just got voted into parliament. out of my country. The Golden Dawn party vows to kick immigrants out of the country, thinks Greeks are superior, and denies the Holocaust took place. They gained 21 government seats at a time when the country is bankrupt, and people are desperate for radical change. So wait a minute, so now we got these guys in, who are saying, get out of my country, you immigrant! Get out of my country! If we have the chance to

1:53:11 Rule this country the great majority of all these illegal immigrants are gonna leave next morning alone So let me let me get this straight so they have illegal or they have immigrants And they yell at them get out of my country in English. Yeah with the press is there they do So don't even press or no press. I mean what they did is have a special group coming in just for our media so they can listen to the guy yelling in English. Meanwhile the immigrants going, what is he saying? I can't understand this language. Abdul, what is he saying? I don't understand. We won't have to listen to this to do nothing. Maybe the fear.

1:53:51 They won't have to do nothing. Maybe the fear will get them out. They fear you. Yeah. Some Greeks say immigrants are scared and have already started leaving. They beat him up and the next day nobody was here. I don't know why. That's from Sicily. I love it though. They beat him up and the next day they weren't here. I don't know why. Maybe because they didn't want to be beat up. This is beyond bad, this is exactly what happened in Nazi Germany. You blame it on one section of the of the population. It's the damn immigrants Well, that's not true is the bankers and the whole semen scandal and Goldman Sachs setting a cook in the books and nowhere Are we hearing anything about the whole odious debt option? You know, that's just not on the table anywhere No, or the someone has to stand up there Where is the great Greek leader who can hold the Olympic torch and say hey?

1:54:47 Screw this. Odious debt. We're not paying it. Yeah. When it happens in America, I'm doing it. It may be the last thing I do, but I'm doing it. I'm definitely going to say odious debt. Bunch of crooks. Just a bunch of crooks. So it does not look good, but I think they have to keep Greece going at least until July 11th, until the ESN kicks in. Well, they've done it. This has been going on for two years. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't stop. Yeah, no, it doesn't stop. And they have been, in fact, Horowitz and I talk about it on the DHM Plug Show. Which is how long, because there's all these, this is the deadline. We've heard this for like over a year, deadline is this Monday. Nothing. It goes on, they've extended the deadline. The deadline is on Thursday, no deadline. And this has been going on and on and on. They can't carry it to July. I mean, what have they been stalling for? I mean, this is going to be a no-brainer. There'll be a lot of riots and things like that, but they could probably stall for another year.

1:55:44 No, I think that they're really going to stop it at July. Once the ESM is in place, because he's saying it right there, he's saying, that's probably true, we take it from all the other taxpayers and everyone's going to hate you. And it's good. The war is coming. It's so clear to me. And I feel really not so good about everything. We laugh about it. Anyway, if you're listening to the program now, at least you'll have something to talk about at the office party. So I ran into an interesting little tidbit and it just cracked me up. Do you remember, you know, the situation in Honduras which has actually gone back to the Iran-Contra affair? Yeah, sure. Which was trading drugs for guns and it was during the Reagan administration when, of course, Reagan didn't remember any of it. No. And the whole thing was like Honduras at the time

1:56:38 Was you know they had the Contras and they were gonna and they were in they had this these kind of socialist government They had to get them out. Why why why why why why well because we apparently Even though it hasn't really been brought to the fore we need Honduras as a as an ally That's kind of under our control because they picked up the slack where Panama used to run all the drugs through for the agency now they they moved it to Honduras and During this period and that then that was revealed in a long series of articles in the San Jose Mercury News how the CIA was running drugs through Honduras and then they the reporters were all fired you can look this up on these guys They're all fired and died broke Yeah, two to the head of course somebody came out like years later from the from Knight Ritter who fired these writers who blew the lid off the Iran-Contra thing and the drugs and said

1:57:35 Oh, we were so sorry because you know that turns out they were right. Yeah, right did them a lot of good. Yeah, so anyway, so now there's this This so I'm not I'm laughing and I and there is a follow-up to this clip I'm laughing when I hear this clip from Democracy Now discussing the the Honduras again Then a Frank Honduras is the second most poorest country in the Western Hemisphere after Haiti How do you now suddenly we're being told that it has become the major? Transhipment point for drugs into Mexico in the United States could you this is a recent phenomena? Could you talk about this what's happening with the drug war in Honduras in the context of the political? troubles and the coup that occurred in Honduras a few years back and

1:58:25 Well, you know, there's been drug trafficking in Honduras for a long, long time. But it was the 2009 coups that were coming up on the third anniversary on June 28th. It was the 2009 coup that opened the door for this kind of massive drug trafficking. And it's really important to know that the drug trafficking is interlaced with the post-coup government, Porfirio Pepe Lobo from Tapa. to bottom. Even the Minister of Defense has talked about the so-called narco congress people, the narco judges. It's a totally corrupt regime from top to bottom. Now of course, but it's actually our regime. Yeah. And you got to, now here's the part that they leave out. For one thing, this guy, this guy on Democracy Now says it's a recent phenomenon. Does he never heard of Iran-Contra? No. The left was all over it and this guy I guess forgot. Okay, so let's forget that. But my favorite thing is the guy, they never talk about this, but this guy Manuel Zelaya, who was the guy in 2009 they took out of his, if you read it in the Wikipedia, it goes,

1:59:22 The vote on the referendum, this is because of the big controversy about the changing some of the Constitution. In the early morning that day, the army arrested Zuley at his home. Zuley was held in a US airbase outside Tegucigalpa before being forcibly sent to San Jose, Costa Rica. Now, the humor in this is left out of the Wiki article because what actually happened, and this is obviously an American operation, The guy was picked up at his, because I heard this guy Zalaev talk, he's in the United States, he was in the United States giving some lectures and he was on C-SPAN and I think we may have even played the clip of it because it's so funny. The guy was sleeping at home, the army busts in, grabs him in his

2:00:06 pajamas, throws him in a plane and they drop, they take him to a transshipment point, talking about transshipping to this US airbase, where he is then dropped off at the airbase. The Americans apparently grab him still in his, you know, barefoot in his PJs. put him in another plane and then send him to San Jose, Costa Rica, land at the airport, throw him out of the plane, literally, in his PJs, onto the tarmac, and take off and leave him there. And the guy says, I'm standing in the middle of the Costa Rica airport in my underwear and nobody will say anything to me. Except, really, that's all you got?

2:00:54 You're through, he said. No, the point is that this whole trend, this drug thing, I mean every time the drug thing comes up, it's amazing to me how the Democracy Now folks and all the rest of us are so flabbergasted by this. Why aren't we doing something? We're not doing anything because we are the drug dealers. Yeah, in fact, I got a report here. A massive spike in the price of opium for the poppy crops, which of course we're protecting in Afghanistan. I have some numbers now. It used to sell for $165 per kilogram, now fetches $400 per kilogram. And this is because they tightened the supply first and then they boosted it up. It's still nowhere near the levels that it was, but we're controlling the supply nicely. Yeah, well, if you get a monopoly, you can do a lot of damage.

2:01:46 And then you go and they also get a bunch of people hooked. I mean, you know, we've talked about this incessantly and we talked about how the Russians are irked about it and who knows, you know, where it's headed, but we're not leaving Afghanistan anytime soon. No. Oh yeah, 2024. And we're not leaving Iraq either. Did you hear? This is what the president sent a little memo to Congress. To the Congress of the United States. Section 202D of the National Emergencies Act provides for the automatic termination of a national emergency unless within 90 days prior to the anniversary date of its declaration, the President publishes and the Federal Register and transmits to the Congress a notice stating that the emergency is to continue in effect beyond the anniversary date.

2:02:31 In accordance with this provision, I have sent the enclosed notice to the Federal Register for publication continuing the national emergency with respect to the stabilization of Iraq. I thought the war was over! At least he pronounced it right. Yeah, I thought the war was over though. I thought it was done. Done deal. It was. No, we're not there. No, there's nothing to see. This notice states that the national emergency with... Listen to what he's extending though. ...respect to the stabilization of Iraq declared an Executive Order 13303 of May 22nd, 2003. Bush. As modified in scope and relied upon for additional steps taken in Executive Order 13315 of August 28th, 2003. Bush. Executive Order 13350 of July 29th, 2004. Bush. Executive Order 13364 of November 29th, 2004. Bush.

2:03:22 and Executive Order 13438 of July 17, 2007 is to continue in effect beyond May 22, 2012. He's extending all of Bush's executive orders. You know, that's what somebody told me once, you know, I said, well, I think I'm going to vote for McCain. And they said to me, if you vote for McCain, all we're going to get is George Bush number two. Yeah. So I voted for McCain. And indeed, we got George Bush number two. The guy was right. Good job. Good job. Good job. I also found out something about Bahrain. I heard a theory and I haven't vetted this guy.

2:04:06 He's a he's a journalist. He has a theory that the whole Bahrain situation which we have we've had our eye on now Bahrain is kind of a small country, but it is conveniently located right across from Iran and of course we have that entire block of Saudi you mean Iran sorry Iran we had that entire you know the entire block is Saudi Arabia and everything and what he says is And I'll actually play this clip. He says the reason why we're not, you know, no fly zone or anything is they're trying to create a United States of Saudi Arabia. So we'll have the United States of America, United States of Europe, United States of the Middle East, and this entire, the entire point of squashing Bahrain into Saudi Arabia is to have one block, one front, so we can go and crush Iran.

2:05:02 Listen to this. Britain and France and of course now the US. Why are they pursuing this course? And I think we have to understand this in terms of preparations which have been underway for several years now for an aerial strike against Iran, which is still on the table. The crushing of the

2:05:39 Bahraini resistance is crucial to the war plans against Iran because what's the biggest deterrent to an attack on Iran is of course the fear amongst the Western elites and Israel that actually the Shia population in other countries will rise up and come and start to resist. that attack on Iran. So actually what's the crushing of the Bahraini revolution is all to do with trying to preemptively destroy any potential resistance to the coming attack on Iran. So of course a majority democracy which the Western elites of course are forever banging on about is actually the last thing they want in Bahrain because that means a Shia dominated government. They're going all out to try and prevent

2:06:22 Iran's current ally in Syria. They're trying to destroy that going all out to destroy that so the last thing they want is a Democrat a democratically elected Shia government in Bahrain because that could cause severe problems when they Try to attack Iran so this the only thing that makes me think this could be disinformation is because he's not using the code He's saying Iran and started instead of Iran. I So he may not actually... Iran. Iran, yeah. He doesn't sound like he's in the loop when he talks that way. So I don't think... He doesn't get 100% credibility. Although I do like the theory. Well, I agree with the theory about... I think the basic part of the Bahrainians are... They're in the pocket of the Western... Us. And they don't want them to become part of the... And they're not on the list. Bahrain was never listed on that Wesley Clark list. No.

2:07:19 So they had this be stable. I think some of it may be a little far-fetched, but you never know. I mean, it's possible. The whole thing's possible. To wind it up here, I have a couple of New World Order things, and we kind of started the show off talking about that. You, of course, are the only one here licensed to practice as a constitutional lawyer. How does the Supremacy Clause work in the Constitution? Are you familiar with the Supremacy Clause? You know, every time it comes up, I have to look it up again. Article 6 clause 2 of the United States Constitution known as the Supremacy Clause establishes the US Constitution, US treaties and laws made pursuant to the US Constitution shall be quote the supreme law of the land. The text decrees there to be the highest form of law in the US legal system and mandates that all state and judges must follow federal law when a conflict arises between federal law and either state constitution or state law or the law of any state. But in this case

2:08:21 The supremacy clause is the most important guarantor of national union. It assures the constitution of federal laws and treaties take precedence over state laws and binds all judges to adhere to that principle. But when it comes to treaties, from the way it's been explained to me, which may be incorrect, if the United States enters into a treaty, such as a treaty with NATO, then that would thus become the law of the land under the supremacy clause. Does that sound right? That's what one argument that I've heard. Okay. I don't know if it sounds right, but I've heard it a lot. Next month the often on this program discussed never seen on television news law of the sea treaty better known as lost will come before the Senate to be ratified.

2:09:18 Let me let me explain the law of the sea treaty the law of the sea treaty will essentially put a United Nations organization in control of all water 200 miles off the continental shelf of any country now a lot goes on 200 miles out particularly oil and gas drilling and shaggy's iam yeah, and and shipping and But as a part of this treaty, and I have read the treaty, I'm not going to go into it now because we don't have that much time. As a part of this treaty, we will have to pay an extra royalty to this UN body over any oil and gas that is brought out of the sea bed, out of the sea bottom. And remember, this is the United Nations organization that is housed in Kingston, Jamaica.

2:10:16 all places. Former UN ambassador John Bolton warns us, quoting, the Law of the Sea Treaty is even more dangerous now than when President Ronald Reagan rejected it. With China emerging as a major power, ratifying the treaty now would encourage the Sino-American strife, constrain US naval activities, and do nothing to resolve China's expansive maritime territorial claims. Bolton warns, lost will give China the excuse to deny US access to what China claims is its exclusive economic zone extending 200 miles out into international waters. And of course, the big deal in the Mediterranean with the Leviathan gas fields. So it's essentially handing over the rights of the sea to the United Nations, i.e. the New World Order. And Leon Panetta, douchebag extraordinaire,

2:11:08 And you can and they have a they have a website. Let me just give you the website you can look at John. Hold on. The Atlantic Council. The Atlantic Council. Yes, the Atlantic Council which you can find at acus.org promotes constructive US leadership and engagement in international affairs based on the central role of the Atlantic community. in meeting the international challenges of the 21st century. The Council embodies a nonpartisan network of leaders who aim to bring together ideas to power and give power to ideas. And this is the big drinking club, this is all NATO-UN. And Panetta does a speech just this past week at this Atlantic Council and here's what he said. The time has come, the time has come

2:12:04 for the United States to have a seat at the table. The time has come for the United States to fully assert its role as a global leader and to accede to this important treaty. It is the bedrock legal instrument underpinning public order across the maritime domain. We are the only permanent member of the UN Security Council that is not a party to it. China, France, Russia, Britain, other countries, Germany, India, 161 countries, 161 countries have ratified this treaty and approved it. We are the only industrialized country in the world that has not approved it. This puts us at a distinct disadvantage, particularly when it comes to disputes

2:13:19 over maritime rights and responsibilities when we have to engage those 161 other nations, including several rising powers which are already parties to that treaty. In years past, several Senate committees, they've examined the Convention, they've examined various elements in hearings, and earlier committee votes were approved by large bipartisan majorities. Accession also has the broad support

2:14:12 among major US industries. Ah, you mean oil and gas? Oh really? This isn't just something that's supported by the diplomatic community and environmental community, this is supported by the business community. That's right. Oh really? Yeah, government and business, the definition of fascism. Corporatism, yes. Companies that are dealing with offshore oil. Yeah. So that we have to pay them, so we have to pay taxes to the United Nations over our gas and oil. This is what this is about. Dealing with offshore energy, ship building, commercial shipping, communications companies, on and on and on. Industries that have to deal with our offshore resources.

2:14:55 They need this treaty to do business. They need this treaty to be able to do their business and to accomplish their goals. What you're telling me, what he's saying is that they've never done business before and they can't do business without this treaty which does not exist? It doesn't work, no. So right now, what are they doing now? They're not shipping. Where's the logic here? Well, it's all about us paying taxes to the global banking syndicates. I can't see it any other way. This is a complete takeover of sovereignty. And we've always been smart. We've stayed out of it. You know what's next? Next is going to be the International Criminal Court. We'll have to sign on to that. Panetta actually, when he started this speech, he's a comedian. Did you know that? He's a freaking comedian.

2:15:39 He makes a joke and a douchebaggy joke because he's there with Dempsey, his buddy Marty, Marty Dempsey. And they joke about how huge the military industrial complex is. And he makes a joke. And wasn't Eisenhower the one that warned us against the military? Yeah, he said it was bad. Listen to, he uses that in a joke. Good afternoon, and it's a pleasure to be able to be here with Marty Dempsey. Marty. My pal. My pal. Over there running the Department of Defense. Over there running the Department of, yeah, we run that little outfit there. And you don't have to worry, that place is so damn big and there are so many people that they don't even know we're here.

2:16:31 Eisenhower said it was such a huge complex building that you could walk in a major and come out a general. He said it because he thought it was disgusting you a-hole. And then he'll take it one step further. I think David Brinkley had another good one. He said there was a lady who went up to a guard in the Pentagon and said, sir, can you help me? I'm pregnant. I'm about to deliver a baby. And the guard said, ma'am, you should not come into this building in that condition. And she said, when I came into this building, I wasn't in that condition. That's how the elites laugh behind your back. Wow. Yeah. So let me give you just one more, one more treaty that we'll be signing on to. Are you familiar with the rights of the child treaty?

2:17:29 No, but I will be shortly. You will be. This is being pushed by Barbara Boxer, Senator from California. Oh yeah, I saw her yakking on about this on C-SPAN. Okay. So let me give you, so this is a treaty. It's another United Nations thing. Yeah, but remember now, it's rights. Why don't we just turn over, give up and give the United, let that character who runs the United Nations. Bunky like bunky moon. Let him run it. Let him run our country. Well, that's what's gonna happen Here are some highlights from the rights of the child treaty it bans and will be under the supremacy clause We will have to adhere to this it bans spanking or any form of corporal punishment of children So you're not really yeah, you will not be allowed to spank your child article 12 of the treaty reads

2:18:21 When adults are making decisions which affect children, children have the right to say what they think should happen and have their opinion taken into account. So if you want to have a divorce, you got to get permission from your kid. You want to move to another country? Not if the kid says no. Worried that your children are hanging out with a bad crowd? Article 15 guarantees children freedom of association. Children have the right to- this is- this is... Hunger Games. Children have the right to meet together and join groups and organizations as long as they're not stop other people from enjoying their rights. And this is just... Gangs are okay.

2:19:05 The treaty would stop states from trying that's and where the United States is a state of the United Nations. Stop states from trying children as adults and incarcerating them with adult inmates. It would require that even murderers in their teens be sent to child facilities rather than prison. So they can murder other kids. Yeah. Article 37 states children should not be put in prison with adults. The treaty requires all signatory nations provide children with adequate levels of food, clothing, housing, oops, sorry, education and medical care. You know it's better just to get one of these bells. Yeah. In the UK, Cameron is, I think there's already a lawsuit because they've already signed on, they've ratified the rights of the child treaty, the Gitmo Nation East. He's facing a lawsuit for violating the rights of the child treaty by proposing a cut in welfare benefits.

2:20:07 This is where it begins. Yeah, this is where it leads. Yeah, I was waiting till the Irish get a hold of this. They're like, they're spankers. No more spanking. And I'm sorry, can I go out tonight? Little Johnny, is it okay? Is that too big a decision? Can you just tell me, please, is it okay if I go out? This is where it's headed. This is the new world order unfolding before our very eyes. And who's behind this? What idiot? Senator? Boxer. Boxer. Boxer. Boxer. Oh right, yeah, the one with too much eye makeup. But the Law of the Sea Treaty, that's Lucifer Clippity Clop's deal because she's on board with all the oil and gas companies because they're the ones that are going to benefit from an extra vig and that's why she's been pushing. We've been playing clip after clip for months of her talking about this. Finally there it is, next month. And

2:21:00 How much you want to bet you're not going to hear anything about this on the news? It's just gonna be oh yeah, we ratified that thing. Yeah, for the good of the country. Yes. Oh, it's all for the good. Good news today ladies and gentlemen, the law of the sea trade has been ratified by the US Congress. Yeah. In other news, Britney Spears has gained weight. Mark Zuckerberg got married. Are you on twit today? No, okay. Let me predict the conversation want to go on to it today because I if I go on twit more than three times in a row it and no there's something happens and then they get I don't go on for a month and people think because you're annoying We're thin on twit because I just basically saying that's bullcrap That's stupid. Why are you thinking that way? That's crazy

2:21:48 You become annoying. Four weeks of that is too much. That's why we do the show only twice a week, because you know, there's only so much we can handle from each other. Okay, I think, I don't know if you know if we discussed it or not, but we can, maybe I should listen to the Dvorak Horowitz unplugged show. I think I can short this puppy at 17. What do you think? Which one? The Facebook stock. What do you mean short it at 17? Yeah, so I'm gonna short it and at 17 I'll sell my borrowed shares and I'll make a bundle. I.e. I think it's gonna go down to 17. Well you mean you want to short it now? Yeah, you can't. Next week sometime I guess we could short it.

2:22:34 Don't know you can always buy a put I think which probably have more leverage than a short So you're already way above my head whatever it is. I'm just calling a number out that you can put in the red book Okay, you think it's gonna fall to 17 17. Oh, yeah, maybe not in one week But it will fall to 17 and nice way to change the the news cycle by getting married What are we gonna do? IPO blows man. Zuck, zuck, zuck man. How about that, that, that, don't you have like some Korean chick around? Marry her. Yeah, marry her. I can already see the headline. Zuckerberg changes status to married. Yeah, that'll change the news cycle away from our crappy IPO. What a failure that was. Well, I was actually disappointed in the way it went. And the guys at CoinWorms who really took it in the short were the,

2:23:26 The underwriters. The underwriters because they had to support that price as long as they could, at least until the damn stock closed that day. And they probably should support it again on Monday and Tuesday, but I don't think they're going to. I think they're going to say, look, we're losing our... They'd lose a lot of money supporting this because they're going to be stuck with a lot of shares. Yeah. Well, I think they... didn't they pop the green shoe even just to support the shares? I don't know. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, this was a... and you know what? I actually, I feel very good. I wrote a blog post, the title of it, Facebook is a bug. And I'm... the more I think about it, John, the more I'm convinced they can... you know, they can do a lot of things, but the internet is just out of control. You cannot actually shut down the network anymore. The network

2:24:14 Sees Facebook with some centralization thing and just routes around it. We're routing around it. I don't use it. You don't use it We're functioning just fine and everything seems to be working. I think the network just eliminates these things automatically Every single time someone tries this it fails. Yeah, you got Apple with their iCloud. Huh? Miss Mickey is like my email doesn't work. I'm like, yeah, it's iCloud. It's all this this decentralization of stuff It's the network was never meant to function that way your view? I'm not going to argue the point. I don't know if the network is smart enough to have a desire of how to function, but I don't use any of these types of services. I mean, I do have a

2:25:00 a quasi-centralized email system run by the CityTime, CTime.com. Yeah, but it's a small outfit. The guy has a couple hundred clients. Yeah, it's a small outfit and he refuses to honor subpoenas and all that kind of thing. He's a great guy. Have you been subpoenaed for your email? No, no, but he says he's made a claim that if anybody comes to him from any government agency for anything, he's just either going to erase everything or is he's gonna tell him to pound salt? He's a libertarian to an extreme. He's the guy who put the EFF websites together. Oh right. Well I think, end of my article I said, at the end of the day if the government really could control what goes on the internet we'd be paying taxes already.

2:25:46 You know what I mean? Probably. So I just don't think they like to spy on it as much best they can. That's why they were asking for all these back doors. Yeah, no, the spying thing is cool. You know, can't you guys come up with something better than what have you given up that you have to, you know, beg for back doors because you can't do it the old fashioned way? Now, it's all gonna go back to decentralized. We'll have the small mom-and-pop ISPs providing a little bit of bandwidth. It may suck. We may not have the 20 megabits down that we have anymore. I don't think they can do it. And Facebook is a goner. Oh, what a stupid move. Well, we'll see. Morgan Stanley. What a stupid move for all the millionaires and billionaires that walked away with all the money. I have no envy of that. I don't care.