200 Hundred Million Ninjas

00:00 Maestro John C. Dvorak slide whistle Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Sunday April 1st 2012 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 3-9 or 6 This is no agenda From Camp MoFo in the capital of the drone star state, Austin Tejas. If he's the April I'm the Fool... In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry Nice try from Northern Silicon Valley we say nice try. I'll do something good in April Fool's Day. Yeah, April of happy April Fools by the way bull crap you still always do these great gags But it's become so institutionalized now bike by the internet yeah Yes, it's stupid Google did there's no Google to what did they do ah some?

00:56 Some don't said that they made the press percent on a press release in conjunction with NASCAR that their self-driving car will be entered in the next year's cup chase Do you know we had a tradition my grandfather? Eugene curry Renwick I should say Renwick Eugene Curry on April Fools if we happen to be staying there and I'm not sure where this came from but everything would be upside down and we'd have a big steak and mashed potatoes for breakfast. And then for dinner, we have what looked like fried eggs on toast with spinach but the fried eggs were actually like a cake with two pear halves so it looked like a yolk with whipped cream around it. Then my grandfather would eat the spinach with a pair of pliers

01:50 I know it's like a good one, and I never really understood We should all eat pliers on April Fools Day, and you know I know that should be standard Pliers in the dishwasher. They're nice and clean Standard operating procedure yeah You have a steak you hold it with a pair of pliers can't go wrong you cut it with a knife or saw It was specifically the spinach And I would like it was kind of cool You know and you go No wonder you're a crackpot funny. I just remembered that unlike grandpop used to do this crazy-ass thing That's how weird is that? I wish he were still around man. That guy was pretty awesome He probably is he's probably right now smiling at me chomping on some caviar with his pliers Oh boy

02:40 Well, in the morning to you John C. Dvorak In the morning to you Adam Curry and all ships at sea and boots on the ground and feet in the air And I'd like to say a special warm welcome and hello to all of the human resources who are always there in our chat room to keep us on the straight and narrow and yell ugly things How dumb am I as an example We have quite a quorum actually today from all around Gitmo Nation. That's at noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net Good to have you guys on board as we do the program live every Thursday and Sunday morning 9am Gitmo Nation West Time that would be Pacific Daylight time in this case so you'll have to adjust for your for your time zone and it kind of came to a realization John that The entire world seems too

03:32 We have such a control grid on our consciousness here that while we have a million people on the streets of Spain, rioting against their government burning stuff and the Gestapo police are there beating them into submission. And Spain is just the latest you know our government is so smart they turn us against each other It's like the whole weekend, you know. You didn't see a single thing about Spain on television Not a single thing All you see is white guys and black guys arguing about race And how we're all gonna go kill each other And it just... I was like wow We are so dumb in America that we allow that to happen

04:19 Well, we don't have much of a choice because the media is the one that controls the collective unconscious. I know you have a couple of Spain clips let me just give you a... Just close your eyes and imagine lots of kids burning stuff and smashing windows and just being really angry Oh yeah! And shooting! Me motiva?

04:55 I'm doing this because of the new government's abuse when it comes to spending cuts. Erasing and denying those achievements we gained with many years of work and sacrifice, it is going to be irreversible. I don't like anything about the labor reform. I don't see it helping employees You know they get it, they really get it you Know what? I mean yeah well Yeah They get it they do but also this was coming some time ago when they got

05:43 when they acceded to the EU's, allowing them to borrow a bunch of money and spend it on projects that were waste of money. I mean when i was in Madrid, I talked about this with some of the locals Garcia being one of them I haven't been able to get a hold of him by the way and... Oh really? Well that doesn't sound good. And we took the road, you know i talked about that freeway that was built outside of Madrid Yeah yeah! The beautiful like when no one's driving on it There is nobody on it period. Yeah. And there's uh..I have a clip with more examples of this which is the one about what's the clip name here Spain Is Screwed would that be the one? No. Spain Report

06:32 Spain is screwed in paint Spain was play place Spain is screwed yeah that seems like a more fun one to me let's see we get it a further problem is the debt of the regions Valencia has the highest debt a region struggling with the legacy of having backed prestigious projects Valencia splashed out on a dazzling city of arts and sciences. The only problem, debt still around 600 million euros. Castellon Airport glimmers in the sun. The cost 150 million euros of public money but there was no demand and no plane has ever landed here. No plane has ever landed here. That reminded me of that road when I saw this report We should go and land there!

07:17 Yeah, he'd be the first plane. He's like hello November 7th, Delta 771. It looks like a beautiful little airport that has got nobody in it. And we'll be like foam up the runway! We're coming in! So the Spanish had... I reported on this when I went to Madrid recently on the show they have built all this cool stuff and it is all over Spain too because I noticed this when I was in a couple years earlier. If you take that road to Marbella It's which is now what you know of course they had to build that beautiful road because it used to take three four hours for the elites to get to their boats in Marbella and I built this Road has 45 minutes from from the airport. And it's just phenomenal there's nothing but concrete sitting empty along the whole road

08:05 Yeah, well they I noticed these like if you go to Bilbao. They have all this beautiful subway stations and no trains did they built up Spain with EU money that was just kind of because it would I guess when the I don't know what when this began But I guess at some point the EU felt like you know frisky yeah So they're doling out all this money And then these countries aren't used to seeing that much free money and I guess they didn't read the fine print Now they basically locked them in. They stole the money! Come on, it's like it's all in buildings and everyone is already on their boat sailing away and setting up camp in Paraguay. These guys aren't... this isn't only when you listen to these reports from the BBC like the other one which I have if you can play it if you want

08:58 it's apparent that the model, the Greek situation is almost...is the fractal or the template section. It is a template for everything else and so Spain just isn't going to be the next domino Well you know the Italians are also protesting but in a different way which cracked me up Baron von Pelsmacher sent me this The Italian pharmacies are so angry about the austerity measures, which of course include a whole bunch of measures as it comes to health care. They have now said we will no longer supply anyone with Viagra and there's a real panic in Italy! It's like what? No viagra?! That's cool that's well you should hit them hard man because you know it's all those old douchebags in Parliament who need it

10:00 Hey, wait a minute. No Viagra we should probably change something here not good now you go to Switzerland to get it so then here in Go to Iran to get it yeah They got plenty there even looks right So of course here we still have nothing about the Trayvon Martin case which is just pitting each other You know its divide and conquer There's been some good, at least you get to see a couple of interesting little tidbits. My favorite one which I have the clip of is and he deserves a douchebag Spike Lee

10:38 Yeah. Well, this house belonged to a couple. They were in their 70s and they did have a son there who lived there at one time whose middle name was George and last name was Zimmerman but it wasn't the right guy It wasn't the right address so when Spike Lee retweeted this address that was out there This couple started getting a lot of attention from the media They started getting menacing letters They started getting menacing phone calls They were worried about their safety So they moved into a hotel! They just left their house behind

11:25 Yeah, let's give Spike Lee a douchebag. What a douche bag that guy is! But interesting they posed the question to Joe O'Biden our vice president. You know because there are two parts to this controversy One is a race and by the way, I've learned that if you are Hispanic that is an ethnicity not a race So the argument it's a race here in California according to everyone. No no no according say anything bet you if you say anything about them at The Latino community your racist. You should technically you should be an ethnicists

12:04 Well, I think most guys can't pronounce it. They would like to say that. I'd like to say ethnicist You're an ethnicist you darn ethnicists! No because that's the argument...I know it's not a race but the point is if you will get called out as a racist If you do anything that's a you know, you'll be like bitch about immigration laws or doing any of these things your are a racist and then the Mexican-Americans and Mexicans will call you one It's so funny. Make up your mind, people! But it's so funny I really well maybe i'm just hopeful but I really don't think most Americans give a crap anymore everyone's brown Everyone's brown now it's like we've intermingled intermixed everyone's brown it's cool yeah Christina's boyfriend won the name is a giveaway

12:50 Juan. Juan, yeah. Next boyfriend will be two. Juan Francisco? No! You know it's like I don't see this...I don't see that he is brown. I just hope we get some cool grandkids with like you know chocolate brown with blonde dreadlocks. Hoping for that. Anyway O'Biden has asked them about- Why we don't have a good one? Everyone wants beautiful grandkids come on. With dreadlocks? Dreadlocks stink Literally. Yeah, okay well I'm just saying oh gosh! I can't believe i said that...I hate that this is one of those millennial thing..i even wrote a blog post about it About what? People saying you know they'll give you criticism like your no good just sayin' Oh yeah just saying. You've been doing that alot. No I have not been doing it alot and in fact it was done to me over email and I was so angry about

13:46 that I wrote a blog post about it. We have to eradicate this." Just saying, but yeah you can call me out if i do it because that's how bad it is! I hate it and I still do it myself. All right okay all righty jeez... So Biden is asked about the gun issue because of course when we have, when you put the people of America and you pit them against each other. You don't want him having guns because eventually guns could be used against government or something that's not a good idea so Joe Biden weighs in on balance I think that it's important to look at people be put in a position where their second amendment rights are protected

14:28 But that they also don't as a consequence of the laws unintendedly put themselves in harm's way You know the bulk of the people who are shot with a weapon other than these drug gangs taking on one another Are end up being shot with their own weapon. Let's dispel this myth once and for all what? Is that even a myth No, nobody believes that people who get shot the most are shot by their they shoot themselves apparently no American military weapons or drones or bombs. That's how most people are killed with weapons is with stuff made by GE and Boeing

15:07 Let's be honest about it. No, but even if we just drop them from the formula he is claiming that most people are shot with their own weapons Yes Statistically It is a fact You didn't know that? It's not a fact! Where did that fact come from? Is it from who? I don't know Joe Biden He is the Vice President Who are you to question him And so the idea that there's this overwhelming additional security in the ownership and carrying, concealing deadly weapons. It's silly! I think it's the premise not the constitutional right but the premise that it makes people safer. You know what? I heard this clip...I went out and bought a new gun

15:52 I swear to God. And other states that have white, in fact what's one of them? I think it's New Hampshire or is there another one? They have much less crime because everybody's armed. Everybody's polite! It's like you know what hey man i'm not gonna mess with you because you might be armed yeah exactly You don't even have to have a gun in Texas Exactly Walker and Lake you've got one. I got the uh the Ruger zombie slayer Have you ever seen this? It actually says, it actually in green letters on the side. It says zombie slayer and you get these little ammo that has a little green tip in it is very cool The zombie Slayer like he's seriously selling this yeah I need one That's too cool there. There it is. This little handgun looks too small so what's its 380? Yeah The Zombie Slayer

16:48 They also have it with a green laser sight, but I thought that was a little over the top. Who comes up with these ideas? It's genius! So it cost you $359 bucks? No, no...I got much cheaper than that. Oh well mail order is $359. And I got a low serial number like 128 or something Which is good. It's a collector's item. What are you looking at that costs 300 bucks? That's too expensive I was looking online So, um...I did a lot of research for everybody

17:32 I felt it was necessary and uh, i'll let you choose. Uh zombie slayer. I'm sorry I'm just distracted by the stupid little gun. It's got a one inch barrel can't even hit anything? Well, I'm gonna take- It doesn't even have a sight! I'm going to take it out on the range. I betcha' its really good. You know doesnt even...does it even have no yeah does.. Does it have a sight? Yeah it has a little sight. No. Yeah it does well I don't have it here. Then you just shoot away like a maniac and run for your life. Alright come one. Well that's what pistols are for Just to shoot until you get to your rifle. They're not for actually hitting anything Another crappy looking gun I hate it change the topic, but here's a 70 this is a laser plug never mind go on I'm done yeah really please stop already uh Well that I read through several pieces of legislation maybe I should start with one The first thing

18:26 I started receiving a whole bunch of emails from people, which of course is an online campaign. Which shows which senators voted against taxing big oil and the amount of money they've received from oil companies and special interest showing how corrupt our government is now duh so we know all that But then I'm like, you know what actually was this bill about? Because the president came out in the Rose Garden had a cross-section of Americans behind him just some nondescript people all shapes and sizes and colors and figures. And he would refer to the American people and he kind of like glance over his shoulder like them back there do you identify?

19:15 I think he was being very disingenuous once i read what this legislation actually is and, and I want to share that with you because you know it's a very republican thing to say that this was bad. And you know we have no agenda but I think that there was something that he was not saying or lying about that... It'll be good for you to know when the conversation comes up at a cocktail party here's what the president said in the rose garden Today members of congress have a simple choice to make They can stand with the big oil companies, or they can stand with the American people. Right now the biggest oil companies are raking in record profits. Profits that go up every time folks pull up into a gas station." That's right! The profits go up now and I don't think the profit margin goes up but okay... "...but on top of these record profits all companies are also getting billions a year..." Now that is by itself

20:18 Really bending the truth because it's not like there is some law somewhere that says, hey you're an oil company here is a billion dollars. That of course we know... It's true there is an Oil Depletion Allowance which Oh no, it's much worse than that John. I found out what this is really about but let the president continue because he's... This is part of his campaign really just to scam us and if this legislation had been signed I believe it truly would have resulted in something very bad so let's continue Billions a year in taxpayer subsidies Subsidies? A subsidy that they've enjoyed year after year for the last century Century! Really Think about that

20:57 I'm thinking about it. Thank you. Hold on are you thinking yeah, thank what are you thinking? I'm thinking wow Wow what a holes right horrible It's like hitting the American people twice You're already paying a premium at the pump rate what premium what premium that's not I don't understand What he's saying there you're already paying a premium or does mean we're tanking premium because I get regular I don't get premium now and on top of that Congress up until this point has thought it was a good idea to send billions of dollars more. No, wait a minute! He's saying John what I'm hearing him say is Congress has his big bag of money and they go or they pass the hat around they put billions of dollars into it and then they go hey here you go billions of dollars in tax dollars Tax dollars? For the oil industry Yeah It's not as if these companies can't stand on their own Oh okay Alright so now I'm interested

22:00 And then he goes into this whole thing about what we really should be doing is not giving these billions of dollars to these horrible people who are already charging a premium on us for some reason, but we need to put that into other really great things. We know work really well I think it's curious that some folks in Congress who were the first to belittle investments and new sources of energy are the ones they're fighting hardest to maintain these giveaways for the oil companies. Giveaways? Now it's a giveaway? Instead of taxpayer giveaways to an industry that has never been more profitable, we should be using that money to double down on investments in clean energy technologies that have never been more promising. That have never been profitable?

22:47 Yeah, never been more different profitable ever have been more or less. No, but it's never been profitable Let's see so Linda money doing it now no you can't that's the problem It works I mean You can put a windmill up and it works But you know the cost of the windmill and you'd have to use it for 50 years before it starts to pay back but okay He is saying something truthful here about doubling down and all prove that to you in a moment Investments in wind power, solar power, biofuels. Investments in fuel efficient cars and trucks. Oh yeah battery cars And energy efficient homes and buildings That's the future Now remember he is saying investments here right? That's the only way we're going to break this cycle of high gas prices that happen year after year after year as the economy grows That's not true

23:35 It's only happened recently. Yeah, yeah it happened in the 70s and then they settled back down now it's happening because of him. Economy is growing the only time you start seeing lower gas prices and Is when the economy is doing badly huh? Is that true no, it's not true at all just the opposite. Yeah Anyway, whatever That's not the case hold on a second in the seventies when we had a terrible economy. Yeah That's when we had that OPEC decided to gouge everybody so they jacked up the prices and then we started having $2 gasoline. It was always way under a dollar before then, and now since the 2000 dot-com crash in the downturn from 2000 to 2007

24:24 which was started to pick up and then it crashed again in 2008, the oil prices went up big time during Bush. And they were bitching and moaning about during the election. Now when the economy tanked it's gone way up so what is he thinking? Where does his logic from? I don't know but he asked you to think about it! I did and he's full of shit! The economy is doing badly That's not the kind of pattern that we want to be in. We want the economy doing well and people to be able to afford their energy costs." Okay, now so I'm down with that but you know i'm like what why if you listen... If you listen to the president and he tells you think about it and this You know? I've got all these visuals He told me to think about it So I've got a visual of Congress just sitting around smoking cigars And handing out billions in cash Like wow man! You know looks like yeah screw those guys What's up with that?!

25:19 Okay, so I go take a look at this bill. This is House sorry Senate resolution 2 to 0 for Also known as the repeal big oil tax subsidies act nice number again s2 204 it'll be in the show notes at three nine or six dot any shown o's calm marked up for your convenience So the The whole bill is you know it kind of what he's saying, you know extension for credit for certain plug-in electric vehicles extended by a year Extension of credit for alternative fuel vehicle refueling property So if you know if you're gonna set up a refueling station You get a credit. Okay? I mean if we all agree with this that's fine with me It's okay and I don't necessarily believe in all of it but at least

26:06 Algae, by the way this is an interesting one. Is now being treated as a qualified feedstock for purposes of the cellulosic biofuel producer credit so I guess algae... That's a real winner. Yeah that's a real winner burning algae alright so there are just pages and pages of this then it comes to the relevant right at the very bottom here It is the, well actually midway we get section 108 extension of production credit for wind facilities. So I'm already like hmmm production credit okay what is that? Wind facilities will now be taken into consideration for the so-called production credit also an increased credit amount for Indian coal facilities. So coal apparently is okay. Coal was all through this thing

27:02 Then we have extension of election of investment tax credit in lieu of the production credits. I'm like, what is this production credit thing? And oh, I might want to point out there's an expansion of qualifying advanced energy production credit it's merely 4.6 billion dollars that so actually it was 2.3 And it's now been doubled, that's the doubling down to 4.6 Okay so we're spending an additional 2.3 billion dollars on advanced energy project credit which I guess means research and development setting up other stuff It's not really for producing anything

27:41 We're also extending the mine rescue team training credit and the Election to expense mine safety equipment so mining and coal is good. That's okay That's a part of it at the very bottom last page repeal of oil and gas subsidies subtitle a close big oil tax loophole Okay So this is where these guys are getting their bill. What business doing in a bill? I'm looking at it too, you're going along there's extension of this because you bend blah blah blah and it says close big oil tax loophole! Right so... This doesn't belong in the bill Well here's where it gets very interesting and you know me for some reason I get off on this. Yeah yeah I like reading this crap Limitation on section 199 deduction attributable

28:29 to oil, natural gas or primary products thereof. And what it is saying is denial of deduction Paragraph 4 of section 199c of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by adding at the end, the following new subparagraph. Special rule for certain oil and gas income in the case of any taxpayer that would be a corporation who's a major integrated oil company essentially that deduction credit will no longer apply to them so then I'm like you know what why don't we go take a look at section 199 of the Internal Revenue Code here it is Income attributable to domestic production activities. This is in our tax code, it allows the deduction of 9% of your cost if you produce something in the United States from American goods

29:23 So in general, I'm reading directly from the tax code. Domestic production gross receipts means the gross receipts of the taxpayer which are derived from any lease rental license sale exchange or other disposition of qualifying production property which was manufactured produced grown or extracted by the taxpayer in whole or insignificant part within the United States so that would be Any type of energy product, but also any qualified film produced by the taxpayer. So the entire movie industry is allowed to deduct 9% from their gross receipts right off the top for their production so it's really their cost

30:07 Electricity, natural gas and potable water produced by the taxpayer in the United States. Also you get that production credit construction engineering or architectural services right? Notice making a podcast is not on this list Now what is excluded? Excluded is the sale of food and beverages prepared at a retail establishment, and the transmission or distribution of electricity natural gas or potable water. So pipelines and stuff don't count Oh by the way any computer software such as anything Apple makes or Microsoft also enjoys this 9% deduction so what they are saying is we want to take one

30:54 little division, well not little but one portion of the American industry of all of them and make them pay for the algae stuff by removing their 9%. There's only one thing that this would have resulted in increased prices because that would have been passed right on to us. So what the president should have said we all agree We love algae and we love the solar And we love the wind power which has now been added So let's pay more for it. Do we all agree? Should we just put another 9% on what were already paying for gas, then lets pass this bill." But he doesn't say that! And by the way why don't we just lower it for everybody? Apple has a lot of money Why can't we take some of their dough? Oh no the iPad would be more expensive. Eww... I was kind of shocked at the disingenuity

31:53 I don't know if that's a word. You know what i mean though right? I like it though, something about ingenuity disingenuous kind of combined to make this ingenuity It was called the bull crap then Yes He was disingenious! Was she real Obama?! Yeah but it wasn't Holy crap let me write the date down when did he give that speech This past week Wow I mean I gotta put that as the first So, you know I was just like wow man. You know it makes it sound like we're just handing out but we're handing the same billions of dollars to the movie industry and how about this? How about we make the price because only 2.6...2.3 billion that's all that were really adding into it. Let's double let's make it 5 billion do you mind paying an extra

32:40 $2 for your movie ticket it will save the planet. That's how you do this not by lying about Guys in a room handing out billions of dollars obvious You can't do it that way cuz nobody's gonna pay two bucks on a move extra movie ticket for algae growing Because everybody knows this is all just, they're kind of feel good. It's all feel good you know yeah we got to get the win yeah I feel a lot better about myself because i support wind power man and algae man they're growing algae man but paying two bucks so no hey stop that thing is a farce Stop that crap! We can't be having that. Doesn't take much to turn the public into cynics Alright then So you gotta lie to them Yeah

33:21 Well, but it keeps on going because you know and I'm like okay that's enough. And then I saw... So you went deeper into this? Not into this! Then he comes out with his little show which he does every weekend It's the Barack Show. It's a romantic comedy. It's called The Presidential Address and in this is pushing the Buffett Rule Act which actually is the Paying A Fair Share Act of 2012 So, there's just so much in this that is not true. And of course I read the act as well and I want to...and I need your help on this because this is really not okay what is taking place. So let's listen to the president from his little show. Over the last few months I've been talking about a choice we face as a country

34:08 We can either settle for an economy where a few people do really well and everybody else struggles to get by. Wait a minute, isn't that the American dream? Yeah it was the American dream! Just getting by I thought that was good all right guess we're not good enough now for you huh Or we can build an economy where hard work pays off again okay Where everyone gets a fair shot Oh You know what I grew up John, my mom used to say Life's not fair Did you ever hear that from your parents Probably everybody's heard that it's not fair and my mom ago life's not fair Well, I never get cut as a snarky response to become like complaints. I'm just saying That's I think I think that was kind of you know now my My parents are older than you my mom is no longer with us And she's probably hope she's laughing but a decade older or 15 years older than you I guess

35:04 That's what they would say life's not fair get over it. This is what it is Okay, that's how I was brought up but now it's like oh everything has to be fair all right Everyone does their fair share? What does that mean our share? What does that fair share me? He loves using that I don't even know who it appeals to alright idiot everyone plays by the same rules That's another thing no Not everyone plays by the same rules because there's people who cheat and lie and do all kinds of stuff It's not like rules That's up to us. And today I want to talk about the idea that everyone in this country should do their fair share." What does that mean? It's hilarious he keeps saying it. We'd have unlimited resources... Wait, I gotta back this up. This was very funny. This was actually pretty funny. Perfect world we'd have unlimited resources

35:55 No one would ever have to pay any taxes and we could spend as much as we wanted. Yeah, that sounds good to me! How about you John? I'm in. Look at hookers...spend whatever we want there's no taxes Now your talking my language Mr President But we live in the real world Oh bummer We don't have unlimited resources We have a deficit that needs to be paid down And we also have to pay for investments that will help our economy grow and keep our country safe Education Research & Technology a strong military, and retirement programs like Medicare and Social Security. That scared me! When he slipped social security in there? I've been paying for that

36:36 He's saying we have to pay for it. Wait a minute I thought we already paid for that That scared me a little bit when he said that but okay, I'll let him slip trying to screw us so he Yes, well he comes out with what not he but there is a bill this is Senate Bill 205 niner To reduce the deficit by imposing a minimum effective tax rate for high-income taxpayers Actually should probably pay play his 30 seconds of what he proposes to do about this Let me see, here it is. Sorry This is the Paying a Fair Share Act Yes Listen to this Last decade we've spent hundreds of billions of dollars on what was supposed to be a temporary tax cut Again with the spending again It's sounding like We just gave all these millionaires and billionaires Hundreds of millions of dollars Look here's a bag Here's a bag Mr Buffett For the wealthiest 2% of Americans Now were scheduled to spend almost a trillion more

37:35 No, you got my attention today. The wealthiest Americans are paying taxes at one of the lowest rates in 50 years Warren Buffett is paying a lower rate than a secretary. Yeah, that's because he's a scam artist. He's an a-hole It doesn't pay his secretary enough while over the last 30 years the tax rates for middle class families have barely budged That's not fair and life's not fair to make any sense Do we want to keep giving tax breaks to the wealthiest Americans? Folks like myself or Warren Buffett, Bill Gates. Bill Gates! Yeah let's give him some tax breaks People who don't need them and never asked for them I love how he compares himself to Bill Gates and Warren Buffett What is Barack's kitty what is he sitting on folks like it like men I don't think you're in that class speaking of class Or do we want to keep investing in the things that will grow our economy and keep us secure because we can't afford to do both No

38:29 Now some people call this class warfare. But I think asking a billionaire to pay at least the same tax rate as his secretary is just common sense We don't envy success in this country, we aspire to it But we also believe that anyone who does well for themselves should do their fair share in return. Yeah, it's called philanthropy and we have a very rich history of this... Of setting up all kinds of foundations and funds and leaving your money in beautiful museums and libraries And oh you mean something else I'm sorry So that more people have the opportunity to get ahead? Yeah! Alright so there is the whole idea

39:07 And if you look at the bill, it's very simple. At least in the beginning it is very simple as it says In general the tentative fair share tax for the taxable year is 30% of the excess of the adjusted gross income of the taxpayer over $1 million So currently the bracket that we have is 28%. as high for federal taxes and so this would be a 30% tax bracket if you make presumably an income over 1 million dollars. Now, this is not exactly the same as capital gains in fact this document as far as I can tell does not necessarily deal with it but what what this is meant to do is...and it says it down here at the very end

39:54 Congress should, it's not in the bill itself but they're saying what this is intended to do is enact tax reform that repeals unfair and unnecessary tax loopholes and expenditures simplifies the system for millions of taxpayers and businesses by eliminating the alternative minimum tax for middle-class Americans. So the bill is incomplete because it's saying this is how it should work, we tax everyone who makes over a million dollars income not capital gains but income at 30% rate so we can get rid of the alternative minimum tax for the middle class.

40:31 John, would you like to... I'll give the history and then John maybe you can explain a little bit more how the alternative minimum tax works. Because what this was set up in... I have the history here In 1970 then Treasury Secretary Joseph Barr found out that 155 high-income households had not paid a dime of federal income taxes They had taken advantage of so many tax benefits and deductions, they had reduced their tax liability down to zero. And Congress responded by creating an add-on tax on high income households equal to at that time 10% of the sum of tax preferences in excess of $30,000. Since 1970 this alternative minimum tax has been adjusted for inflation So that even though prices have gone up

41:31 And your wages have gone up. In real spending power, you may not have actually had more money so they had to adjust that level up every single time and what they're talking about now is not adjusting that level but we should get rid of it after we take the money from the millionaires and billionaires Can you explain how the alternative minimum tax works John just so people kind of get a grasp on it? I'm not even sure myself but I know this is that the alternative minimum tax was set up to ensure that people pay a minimum amount of taxes. In other words, if you have some sort of... Lots of write-offs? It's essentially a tax you have to pay minimally if you somehow got your taxes or if you make money but you don't pay any taxes So right now I believe the amount is $183,000 If you make over $183,000 then you will have to pay

42:28 And But what they really want... I'm looking here on the IRS bulletin and for the year 2010, the amd, the attorney minimum tax exemption was $72,000. Oh i'm sorry. For a married couple oh really? 47 for a single. Oh i'm mistaken so over so basically middle class if you're making over 47 which 47 is pretty, you know very lower middle class in today's world. We're not talking about the 40s and so if you make over $47,000 no matter what you do have a minimum tax you have to pay Right So you just can't expense your way out of it? In other words if you make 47 for and you spend it all because on legit I think its all gone Just to stay alive You still have to pay taxes Yes On whatever pittance you have left

43:30 And normally they've adjusted that up, but what's now happening is we're not going to adjust that. We want to have the millionaires and billionaires pay for that and That will then allow us to remove That minimum tax well according to the Congressional Budget Office They say we'll probably lose about eight hundred and sixty four billion dollars over a ten-year period because this the Buffett rule according to the CBO who is their job to report on this would generate forty seven billion dollars over 10 years or less than five billion a year but here's the kicker. This doesn't start until 2013 it didn't mention that so... That's because the Bush tax

44:20 Lash up expires on January 1st 2013 right, but he's making you're going Yeah I know how much longer gonna dwell on this But I do have a clip that kind of addresses her addresses it from the other side please so we had Bernanke and What's his name little with the guy from them from? Leave it to beaver. What's his name Timmy oh Yeah, right. Timmy Geithner and he they were discussing certain things and so I got to get two clips from Bernanke which kind of says it all. First of all start with the Bernanke ratio spiel

45:03 No? Yeah, just let me set it up then. He's being asked what how long can we go on with the situation we currently have and I think this is one of things Obama is trying to address by screwing us up but you'll see by the second comment that Bernanke says which is Bernanke number two that Obama's barking up the wrong tree but go on. Chairman Bernanke Is our current fiscal trajectory sustainable In the United States in the United States no, it's not end of clip Beautiful we're done. What is a sustainable? debt load for A country such as ours zero well there's no exact number I think that the current Levels would be sustainable if they were kept more or less constant relative to GDP I mean you think that's That's an important criterion

46:02 If we could over a period of years get the debt to GDP ratio to some level like 75% and then over time even begin to improve that I think that would be a much better situation, but as it stands the CBO Projections show that on current law. The debt-to-GDP ratio begins to explode in the next couple of decades It's like my crotch exploding hey so right now our Our debt ratio where at 100 percent right? I don't know what it is. Yeah, no, I think now with the like 14 or 15 trillion it is a hundred percent of what our revenues are on an annual basis yeah yes like we're like Greece so here we're not as bad So here...so now another guy comes back into the hearing to ask this specific question just to get because Geithner's there by the way and I don't have the clip of him

46:55 because they go to Geithner after Bernanke says this, the following thing. I'm sorry and Geithner says we disagree. Geithner disagrees but it's... Oh really? I think Bernanke has gotten the right track here So explain what happens you've mentioned this before and just to clarify what happens at the end of this year in terms of our fiscal situation Well, for a number of reasons. If on current law if no further action is taken there will be what I've termed a fiscal cliff on January 1st of 2013 as the number of tax and other provisions expire including the Bush tax cuts, payroll taxes, UI benefits and at the same time on the spending side is sequestration arising from failure to agree kicks in

47:49 and if all those things happen... The sequestration, that means that uh... doesn't mean that the Treasury and the Federal Reserve just get to do whatever they want? No no this is referring to that committee I know but it's a whole thing with the military has to cut their spending is what it means. Oh okay And I think there would be a very sharp and rapid fiscal contraction That would be a serious negative for the recovery I hope that Congress will take the opportunity to think through where they want fiscal policy to go and this will be in some sense a forcing event. So austerity too fast, so spending cuts too soon?

48:30 and tax increases that would have a negative impact on economic growth. That's the fiscal cliff you're speaking of? A very sharp change in fiscal stance in a short period of time would have a negative effect on growth, yes. Again it is important to achieve sustainability over longer periods but One day is kind of a short period to have such a big change in the position. Let me ask you a question John as a world-renowned economist Should I then wait with purchasing a home or land and an acquiring a mortgage before until that two thousand thirteen moment Well, did I for one thing? I don't think this 2013 things gonna happen

49:20 I mean in terms of everything on January 1st, the whole place falling apart. No! What you have to do is you gotta get a good loan at a good price and it's on a piece of property that is undervalued. I mean that anytime if could be tomorrow or two years from now could be three years from now. That's just essentially the rule and other thing is if you really track overall economic conditions with housing prices and you look at them, and there's been a lot of studies of this. They really don't necessarily track together it's just odd that the housing crisis caused this last essential panic that we have but they don't track together so the housing prices

49:57 could be bottoming now, they could be bottoming later or in certain local areas that have already bottomed out. I think thats happened in the Bay Area for example. I think thats happened in Austin too because people are building man this is like the whole downtown area is just you know, they're going big for the conventions and it's just you know its huge what's happening. Yeah there are some parts of the country where prices are still going down and I think that because we're looking at housing and Horowitz show we look at housing starts in housing prices and retail values mortgages and overall in the country still sliding down but in certain areas its already picking up There's some green shoots whether that sustains another question? There's some green shoots

50:40 Let me finish up with, and Mickey was listening to this so she's off to the side and she is not an American yet. And her head swings around and says that's bullcrap! That's not true! Listen to this... This is a part of The Barack Show You're the ones who deserve a break. You deserve a break today So every member of Congress is going on record And if they vote to keep giving tax breaks to people like me, tax breaks our country can't afford then they're going have to explain to you where that money comes from.

51:17 It comes from that bag you all have in Congress. You can voluntarily give more money, Barack! Yeah... It's part of the tax code. If you really feel bad about it just add another thousand dollars on the bill I mean it's not a big deal Now listen- I don't understand why Buffett doesn't do that? Listen see if you can catch what swiveled Mickey's head around Either its gonna add to our deficit or it's going to come out your pocket Seniors will have pay more for their Medicare benefits Students will see their interest rates go up at a time when they can't afford it. By the way, that's happening anyway That's happening this summer when the rates double we've already reported on that That's gonna be a fiasco But that's not what I'm talking about Families who are scraping by will have to do more because the richest Americans are doing less. You bastards! That's not right That's not who we are in America our story has never been about what we can do by ourselves It's about

52:11 Wait, wait. You're just like Mickey! She went what? Listen to this but there's a second part to it It's about what we can do together Oh, it's not what we can do- No its not When is... What is.. Where is this guy from? Kenya Let me listen to that again In America our story has never been about what we can do by ourselves Its about what we can do together It's about believing in our future and the future of this country. So tell your members of Congress to do the right thing." That's just not true! This is a country of opportunity for the self-made man, who then hopefully treats his employees well you know does great things for his community. Austin is built on Dell and

53:11 And Dell? Lance Armstrong. And Dell, and the capital, the government... We got nothing here! There's no oil or nothin'. Yeah, the capital obviously but it's a... And University of Texas and all research has done that. Well UT of course paid for Dell as well but that's how it's supposed to work and then you spread it around and that's why we have 5% official number unemployment here in Austin. There are guys at the stoplights But we don't really have homeless that I've seen and I've looked around. I'm sure we have some tent camp somewhere, but I just haven't found yet... It's much better than most of the country it's a lot better than Spain! But to say that were not about one guy? No this makes no sense thats why people come here! I go to America can work my butt off and I can... Yeah they dont come to America to join a collective To become a member of a kibbutz Come on!!

54:14 Hey man, we need to thank some producers because we are just scraping by but every single morning Miss Mickey and I wake up and go man how awesome is it? We get to do what we want to do. And you don't have a suit telling you what to do! Yeah thank you. Like Keith Olbermann who just got fired. How predictable was that? Yeah, it's pretty predictable. He either has to go on his own or he is going to just keep getting fired. Well, yeah. It takes a lot of guts I don't think he has the nerve to get out on his own. No! Like us John, like us. Is that what you're saying like us? Exactly and we should also thank our producers who helped us including at the top of the list today our executive producer Rubio Spice Company. Hey now...

55:00 He hopes he makes the cutoff for the April Fool's show Bennett with the road heading to a big meeting with Costco Costco Mexico, you know, but I'm on yana. Hold on a second. Where is it? I'd love some meeting karma in hopes that the marketing leads to Costco buying griller's rub, which is the rub I use. Oh! That's the stuff you like? Yeah right cool It's quite good i'm going to talk to these guys some more because I'd like to get them to do a couple other things there was one of my favorite steak seasoning and you know steak seasoning is really sketchy most of it's crap and big chunks of stuff its terrible I got the guy here at the market he makes his own with his own homegrown cocoa beans He makes a rub

55:42 with the it's pretty outstanding. Okay, well let me get back to that I'm talking about steak seasoning not a rub. Oh i'm sorry and uh there used to be a...I mean I taste I check all these these you know these spices that are blended all the time and they're and the Winn-Dixie stores in the south used to carry a line I think this still carried I don't think they may have been phasing out And they had a steak seasoning that was absolutely phenomenal for steaks and chicken and everything else. And they kind of discontinued it because I guess at some point, the rumor is that they were grinding bunches of stuff up and one of the grinding machines fell apart and most of those steak seasonings was metal filings.

56:34 I can make that. And apparently it just gave the whole thing a bad reputation Other stuff, other stuff like silica So uh...I think that if we get the Rubio Spice company to isolate that formula they'd be on to something but anyway Hey and could i just say? I would love to try some of the Rubio Spice so maybe you can shoot me an email Oh he'll send ya some Yeah I would love to try it are you kidding me? It comes in big containers good for twenty racks of ribs quite a bit Anyway, thanks as always for the great pot of the best podcasting universe and You got your shameless spot plug there apparently and a little bit of karma hold on a second beating Karma for you eating karma. You've got karma Ryan Benson in Tampa Florida $330 another executive producer Thanks for the greatest podcasts in universes shows such a welcome light of honest intelligence

57:27 Dark world of ignorance and media manipulation. Somehow, you even make the depressing news and analysis funny and entertaining! Yeah! I know... This douchebag has been listening for years now never donated please consider this my mea culpa and de-douche me! I'm turning 30 on April 2nd could you know we got him on the birthday list I want to add that i think there's a great argument in favor of your donation model that im not sure you ever mentioned on the air. Many shows develop a core audience that loves them and then when they go to advertising, they bend to the pressure or widen their demographics to get more advertisers which you have to do and this almost always waters down the programming so it's crap

58:07 and it turns out you start to suck that's exactly what gender will never do this if people like us continue to help keep you on the air that's right at thirty dollars from Ryan deducing you've been de-douche mark randall's here for I think everything is just take one quick look no note i don't see a note yeah he may have said something else has taken quick looking into the Into the while you're doing that let me mention everybody that the cutoff time for donations for the show itself is Is it midnight the day before John yeah, and the reason for that is PayPal basically

58:51 Yeah, well what happens on Thursday in particular they and I talked about the way we've got a new we have We have some PayPal cuz I wrote some column So the paypal people contacted me They said they gave us a whole bunch of team of people that will help us if we have all you wrote about PayPal sucking. Yes Yeah, yeah. And so it's the only way to get attention in this world. Yep! Good job good job They told me that they do a lot of maintenance on Thursday and it causes some difficulty getting downloads and so we ran into the situation where we would ask for the downloads of the contributors on Thursday morning and then we wouldn't get it in time for the show So they kindly offered to move their maintenance window to a different day? No no, not changing anything

59:31 Oh, really? So we're going to continue doing this. And you have a whole team do you have a team leader and everything? Yeah! Really is she hot? It's a bunch of guys... A bunch of nerds. Anyway Michael Randall in Halifax Nova Scotia 233 32 he sends the note in I'm recent political science graduate and started listening since January now you've convinced me that US and China are in the middle of a Cold War with the U.S attacking on the pipeline front and China attacking on the cyber front I'm a first-time donor would like a shot of karma and a dee douche bag and to douchebag my friend miles Miles who has been listening longer than me, but never donated Can I also get a podcast license for the best Canadian podcast background noise? Helmuth can be found at backgroundnoise.ca I would highly recommend it to all the slaves out there happy to support the best podcasts in the universe. He's a karma machine You've got it Thank you so much for your support! You've got Karma That was uh

1:00:30 233 32 then we have Ryan bird no no Tyler Crothers oh I'm sorry I went down too far sorry Tyler Crothers Lincoln Nebraska 233 what's up John and I've just got the No Agenda email today about the Google throwing all the emails that yeah we had a mailing last week I was gonna explain on this show yeah so I had to send out another mailing tab people looking there because we got like 15 to 20 percent response. Not responses, we never get that much. We got about 15-20% people opened the email. That was extremely low because normally have 60 and I think there's still a lot of spam problems so i've isolated what it was in this kind of weird bug but its in the Google Spam filters. Let me guess

1:01:15 If you use Google Payments, your emails don't go to spam. If you use PayPal links your stuff goes to spam Is that an educated guess? That's a good attempt No actually what it was is weird I had always been running the mailings that we do We run the mailings through MailChimp And MailChimp if you want to see what people are clicking on because you put a bunch of links in your mails saying yeah and i want you check this out check that out you tell MailChimp to track the clicks and in so doing they do a one of these forwarding things where they were worthy when you click on some actually goes the mail chip then it gets forwarded to the real link you know that was a call for reading or the like as there's a word fishing I think no it's not really it actually could be construed is such i suppose but anyway now it did said its away dick it's only way can track tracking mechanism right

1:02:11 So every link would be, it comes from MailChimp because they're the mail delivery service and then every link would have MailChimp, MailChimp, MailChimp. Then a forwarding link this time I said you know what's it is probably going to cost the users a millisecond has to go this roundabout way Because I was playing with it earlier in the day and it seems to be delaying because the MailChimp was burdened or something. So, I killed that! Why bother tracking the clicks? Just give people a straight link. That got me spammed. Really?! Yes! And here's what my explanation is by reverse engineering the process

1:02:54 Google knows that MailChimp's a very rigid company. If somebody unsubscribes, if you unsubscribe to this list, you will never get back on it. MailChimp would just not let it happen. MailChimp is really good about spam and they do testing... So if it comes from MailChimp, it's probably a legitimate mail... Google mail knows this And then when they go down the line, they see MailChimp, MailChimp, MailChimp, MailChimp because those are all the forwardings. They say yeah that's typical of a MailChimp mailing because everybody does this

1:03:31 passes it through. I, by being a smartass killed the forwarding thing and so it was coming from MailChimp but every link was like to no agenda show to your direct links all these different things right? Google looks at that ohhhh Spam! And they killed me Us They killed us well he killed Me because it's my fault They killed me anyway, they killed our mailing and attended people and there was mostly Google No, those a few other guys But that was the reason is because that's the only thing I did different so every single show notes for every episode has an RSS link

1:04:17 to the newsletter and that's the best way to get it I guess we can track in so we don't know a who opened or not but it just proves an email is broken and did you wrote another column about e-mail which I saw was pretty interesting yeah but I would recommend you subscribe to the RSS link for the newsletter and screw the tracking we just want to get the information alright let's move on because this okay sorry about that is a bad promised bunch of people that I tell what happened all we know if you're gonna use MailChimp now you know that that little story. Don't do that, yeah I don't, don't be smart. Anyway so Crothers...I got the No Agenda email and he saw at the bottom it said our phone number and called me So anyway that was And you answered? Yeah I answered. I don't encourage it by the way He said I called it holy shit its really John on the other end of the line! I thought that was cool as hell Hey wait so hes donating $233 dollars hey

1:05:11 A new promotion. Talk to John, get some wine advice... talk about Costco, talk about meat rubs Rub your meat with John for $233 bucks This is a new promotion I'm feeling it Ryan Burgett in Seattle Washington $200 and 1 cent Well apparently i am an idiot was unable to actually make this donation on time with the show hope you still read my note Okay keep informing us drones Danny Baker in Morristown Tennessee $200 requesting karma for my step-niece Heather who has been diagnosed with stage 2 cancer yikes at the age of 21 that's terrible fucking fancy hate cancer karma here you got karma

1:05:59 And we want to thank all those contributors, especially the executive producers and associate executive producers for show 396. I want to remind you go to noagendashow.com, noagendanation.com, dvorak.org slash NA and channeldvorak.com slash NA and keep us going here. We need your help. That's right! We definitely do. And before we move on, just a few PR mentions. We still have people are now understanding that we'd rather have you send us the money or get a $5 month subscription. We have more than enough domain names but I still will mention that I do like what

1:06:44 CS had he says I've had this around for a while or I know you're stopping with it But I think be good if we forward this to knowledge in the show calm Romney sucks org Which is pretty good, and I think we'll be able to remember that he sucked Yeah We should be able to sell it to someone else now here's some money. Yeah Here's what? I like This is the kind of promotion PR initiatives that I think are really good Do you recall John we talked about Ken sunshine? On the previous episode of... Yes, Ken Sunshine. Yes he is the guy who does all the PR for all the top celebrities Do you remember we talked about his wiki page? How there was like almost no entry and yeah He has been dogging it Yeah why don't you go to his wiki page and read for me the last paragraph There's only three paragraphs

1:07:40 I'm already guessing what it might be. It's a great PR move, check it out and its been up for like three days so you know this guy will probably get rid of it shortly let me get there go ahead read it okay So, haha. Goes on and has three graphs. His third graph says he was featured on No Agenda Show in 2012 in a controversial episode which Adam Curry described him as quote a douchebag Which by the way I didn't do because I listened to the episode but that's okay we like it Yeah you didn't do that That's probably good since you don't want to be douching everybody who doesn't know anything Especially if they don't get the concept

1:08:22 No comment has yet been made by a representative of the NOA Agenda Show as to the basis of these remarks. The controversy has sparked conversation about freedom of speech and podcasting and liability." Where's our link down at the bottom under references? That's the only thing that didn't work out too well for us, but someone could put the link in I mean come on it's a wiki And by the way, when you put these in no agenda show has a wiki page so you can highlight that with a forwarding link. Oh that's right! In the Wikipedia yeah good point. Adam Curry does too So you can highlight his name and I forget what is the method for that? I don't know. Sure there is a wiki page for douchebag

1:09:05 Let me since I didn't put this in and it's got nothing to do with me. I am going right away stay away Stay no, I'm gonna put this Now watch this watch the watch how easy this is Isn't you do it like in quotes or something? No, no two brackets two brackets Okay, I'm refreshing a break here just take me one second One Let me just show preview so I make sure I didn't screw it up. I don't see it man, It's not coming through. I'm just previewing right now looking at okay? Oh no agenda show what wait wait What's that go to the wiki page for no agenda show and see how thats... What happened here one second

1:09:47 Just go to the no agenda show thing. Is it one word or is it two words? Hold on, I'm going, I'm going... It says the page does not exist No space agenda. No space agenda. Or no underscore agenda is the URL But the, it doesn't say no agenda podcast just says no agenda. We are the Wikipedia entry for No Agenda! Okay hold on a second let me get this fixed so when you take a second... Someone else in chat room is gonna do it before you're even done with all of this. No I'm doing enough they're getting there they're gonna be messing with me Bogorucious And and I'm only I've just been cautious here because I'm on the air otherwise I just save page I never really do this much extra work

1:10:35 It was already, it was... Okay we're ready to go. Hold on I'm gonna post it Alright alright I'm refreshing I'm looking at it Just going to save now Save Save Oh there is it! Yay good job Now you got no agenda and Adam Curry are both Very good very good John very good That's how you do it ladies and gentlemen real time Alright thank you for this instructional lesson So thanks to our executive producers, our associate executive producers. These are actual credits and you see that you can actually call and have someone vouch for you me or John You can just call John Just call him! And of course we go out propagate our ever-important formula Our formula is this We go out...we hit people in the mouth Say it with me now SHUT UP SLEEEEEEP And Tyler Crothers says hey man

1:11:40 I spoke to John, and sent 233 bucks! But i didn't get no karma! Alright man. Sorry. You've got... Karma. I don't think it was actually in his note. I didn't see- I didn't see it in his note. That's okay. He said he sent me an email real time here we go. I do not see the word karma in this note No You don't just get karma. People gotta be a little more judicious with their requests for karma. And can I have a karma shot? How about some de-douchings, you know or douchebags are good He asked for a karma shot it's in the note i see it now Okay So right on word all right good onward yes since you have eight million things to share with us today Why don't you? Close my email box come up with something what does that mean I mean, I went through the wiki page. I shut down my email and I got it go back to it here is so person of interest I Got this clip from a number of producers who were kind enough to clip it for me It's great because I don't watch this program great show

1:12:45 Well, did you see the most recent episode? Apparently something very interesting. As you know we always talk about how Facebook is not only invested in but... I did see this and didn't think a clip in it but its pretty funny. Yeah, I got the clip So Facebook of course partially funded by In-Q-Tel A CIA investment venture capital investment firm We know from The Time Magazine article when Mark Zuckerberg was being interviewed on the cover of Time magazine The Mueller, the director of the FBI stuck his head around the corner said hey I'm just in the building hanging out just want to say hi. Like yeah that's what the director of the FBI is just hanging out at Facebook Yeah it's a funniest story and so the person of interest picked this up and helped us out by basically rewriting everything you've heard on this show

1:13:36 Good morning, Mr. Reese! If you say so... Any croquillon in there? If that's a donut then yes So what do we got? Nothing much unfortunately The machine kicked out a number that has one of the smallest digital footprints I've ever seen No photos? Not everyone in New York has a driver's license, Mr. Reese First three digits of the social suggest that Jordan Hester was born in Georgia. I'm supposed to recognize him by his accent? Or her, I can't even verify their gender. Hester's living off the grid. Off the grid?! No photos online and nothing on the social networking sites. Never understood why people put all their information on those sites... Used to make our job a lot easier in the CIA Of course! That's why I created them

1:14:23 You're telling me you invented online social networking Finch the machine needed more information People's social graph their associations the government have been trying to figure it out for years turns out most people were happy to volunteer it Business wound up being quite profitable too. Unfortunately Jordan Hester seems to be more cautious than most The machine needed more information We had to feed the machine I love it we even put social graph in there fantastic Yeah, hey, that's I think you know there's some way to go sick truth to it no

1:14:59 it. This is the same show that we had, uh, we took a clip from recently where they were the CIA was running the drug business. Yeah. These guys are great whoever's writing this show good on you and enjoy the donate sometime will ya? Yeah. JJ Abrams and Chris Nolan or the two guys send us some money. So while we're on this, um, A quick like nine second clip from Congressman Mike Rogers. He is from I think Michigan and he ratcheted up the cyber attack scare tactics. Cyber attack is on its way we will suffer a catastrophic cyber attack, the clock is ticking. The clock is ticking! We're all going to die!

1:14:23 You're telling me you invented online social networking Finch the machine needed more information People's social graph their associations the government have been trying to figure it out for years turns out most people were happy to volunteer it Business wound up being quite profitable too. Unfortunately Jordan Hester seems to be more cautious than most The machine needed more information We had to feed the machine I love it we even put social graph in there fantastic Yeah, hey, that's I think you know there's some way to go sick truth to it no

1:14:59 it. This is the same show that we had, uh, we took a clip from recently where they were the CIA was running the drug business. Yeah. These guys are great whoever's writing this show good on you and enjoy the donate sometime will ya? Yeah. JJ Abrams and Chris Nolan or the two guys send us some money. So while we're on this, um, A quick like nine second clip from Congressman Mike Rogers. He is from I think Michigan and he ratcheted up the cyber attack scare tactics. Cyber attack is on its way we will suffer a catastrophic cyber attack, the clock is ticking. The clock is ticking! We're all going to die!

1:15:53 Now, I thought that was great. The clock is ticking! Hey just disconnect all that crap from the internet you don't need it and it's not that hard now there's this guy um the director of cyber...I don't know what his official title is uh the cyber counterintelligence I guess from the FBI His name is Sean Henry You can actually see this well of course I have the link in the show notes three nine or six on any shown us calm But it's probably prominently presented on the FBI homepage FBI gov Sean Henry is leaving for an undisclosed Position at an undisclosed security company Salesforce sales sales force and he of course couldn't just leave the organization without a video interview

1:16:39 And he was saying some stuff, man. These FBI guys... I mean there's... Edgar Hoover is still all over this organization because he's insane! Listen to what he says. Actors it's all actors by the way this thing does actors thing is bugging me It really is because they should choose a different word. Wait a minute.

1:17:40 Now he's telling me that Al-Qaeda is the same guys, he just said that who flew airplanes in the buildings now they want to do cyber attacks. Yeah it is nuts That's not even his... It was just the worst clip you've ever played! It's not even his jurisdiction Your clip. What's wrong with my clip? You can barely hear it and it sounds like its out of phase. Nah, well there might be something through Skype because it sounds good here. Huh... Well just for your enjoyment I have another one

1:18:22 And this is something I did not know. Attention producers in Gitmo Nation Lowlands, attention attention people in the Netherlands... This should make you worried. We've actually stationed FBI agents overseas into the police agencies and a number of countries including Ukraine Romania The Netherlands Estonia These are not people that are assigned to the embassy as liaison officers. These are actual FBI agents who are working 100% of their time in cyberspace against cyber actors and they're sitting side by side with their colleagues in the national police agencies of those countries." Now I didn't know that! I can't hear it! That's very weird... Anyway, what he said

1:19:12 that they have FBI cyber agents in many countries including the Netherlands who sit side-by-side in the police station. The FBI, that's not their job? CIA yeah maybe but the FBI sitting in the Netherlands? Yeah there was a bit remember couple years ago when there was some other weird incidents world incidents all of a sudden they called the FBI in to overseas hmm Yeah, it's weird. It has been going on for a while but I'm not absolutely sure what jurisdiction or what... I don't even know why? Like you said, not even the CIA but the NSA or some people that are used to... If you've been listening in or checking out, that kind of stuff sounds like NSA to me! It doesn't sound like anything the FBI should be involved with. Well they are

1:20:04 He's like, yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah bitches were everywhere in the lowlands So I guess uh you know, I think it was out of phase i'm sorry It sounded okay here. I don't know what happened that's weird No, it sounded terrible Okay. Well hopefully it'll sound okay on the recording for the show well while you were doing this stuff Don't belittle that Don't belittle me. Oh, I think actually if you want to get into some law heavy-duty there was a There's this this Iranian thing is really cranking up when it I mean if you watch C-SPAN over the weekend oh Yeah, it's just like Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran It was unbelievable just never ended yeah and Clippity clop is rampant it up

1:20:51 And I have a couple of clips, none of which is good. One from this guy... Please share them! No good. Let's listen to some no-good clips There's this I want you play this one first because it just brings up two issues One is this guy tell me this guy doesn't sound like a dead ringer for the Vecundra Which makes me think that there's like a milieu where you talk like this? Where your touch you're kind of either You're talking about what and then you did you just jump you do you kind of overlap your sentence structure And in a way to cover up the fact that you're not saying anything at all, and you're probably not the brightest guy in the world? This guy is a Duran Corporation, place separated at birth. Yeah this is like skip logic stuff? Is he all over that? He doesn't say anything dumb like that but it's just the pacing and style of not saying anything intelligent

1:21:40 looking at the Iranian nuclear program, it is motivated by insecurity and fear. Fear of the United States, a fear of US military capabilities so I don't think necessarily that the threat of attacking Iran's facilities by the United States or Israel is necessarily productive you can argue that That threat actually may compel Iran to weaponize this program in the future. Even I think sanctions, we don't entirely know if sanctions will have the effect of dissuading Iran from weaponizing it could get to a point if the regime feels that is in peril It could see nuclear weapons capability as a solution to its problems so Dead ringer

1:22:29 Dead ringer. It's a weird style I had another clip from where he he's dropped in some you know, just drops words in it's just that is a total dead ringer But anyway He had really nothing to say the guy who did actually have something to say as his professor at Georgetown Who I think lays it out and he has like a super hawk this is one of these panels and he went on and on about essentially told us that we're gonna die Yeah. So where's, where is that? It's a I got it being able to deter major US or Israeli military attack and their second goal in their own strategy documents that they published in public is to become the most dominant state in the Middle East. Okay so my colleagues think that they'll stop at this kind of Japan model where you have a lot of HEU and you have the ability to enrich but I don't think the Japan model is going to deter us or Israeli attack. I don't think the Japan model what does the japan model

1:23:27 The Japan model is to become a dominant player in your region by using nukes as a power source. What they did with the Fukushima, I mean that's what you'd be using... It's not some chick without pubic hair? It could be maybe that's what he's talking about. ...makes you the most dominant state in the region if those are their strategic goals and I take them at their word of that They need weapons so I think playing it smart in terms of the way they move forward. They might stop short for a while, but I think that eventually they're going to weaponize. There's very little reason to believe that they're gonna stop at this latent capability. In terms of Israel's decision... This is something maybe didn't come out enough in the talk, but Israeli option and US option are very different. The major difference being United States has much greater capability, has much greater ability to inflict lasting damage

1:24:22 on Iran's nuclear program. So I think, on balance actually that the Israeli military option is not a good one and i'm not an advocate of an Israel- Israeli strike. I am an advocate of a US strike because I think of the gr- Who is this guy? You heard it right Yeah! I'm an advocate of a U.S. strike yeah Wow Well screw you douchebag Let's let him finish, you hear the worst part. Greater damage that we can inflict on balance the benefits outweigh the cost In terms of whether Israel will go I mean the problem they face is that their window for effective military action is rapidly closing because they have less of an ability to hit buried and underground buried in hardened facilities This guy watched too much Aaron Burnett

1:25:04 He's watching, he watched too much 24. He totally believes in all this stuff! Oh yeah no... That's not nuclear bunkers that where they make the Viagra dude we know that by now The thing that is interesting is I want you to finish this clip first Yeah, yeah. That was looking at today New York Times and a meme starting to crop out There's a bunch of these crop up crop crop up or crop out. Well you said Viagra Okay, so the meme that's cropping up is And it's all over the paper and I think it and I think this guy's a reflection of it Which is the intelligence agencies which are in full agreement? That there's nothing going on right oh

1:25:47 They are gun-shy. Here's the meme, you hear this out... they're actually gun shy to say anything is going on because they were so humiliated by what happened in Iraq even though they never said anything was going on in Iraq and it was all forced by Cheney who apparently kept showing up at Langley every five minutes to goad them into saying something that they could use, they can hang their hat And so they're so gun-shy that they're reticent to go out on a limb and actually say that the Iranians are maybe doing something. They won't even go that far, and so the meme is that you can't believe anything they say which is

1:26:31 bogus because you could have believed them the first with the Iraqi thing cuz they knew it was nothing going on but they, you know they were goaded into saying something else but they were right to begin with and now there's saying there's nothing going on in Iran. But now we're trying to convince ourselves that well but as a full of crap what they're doing Let me finish this guy. He's an idiot and as Iran Follows through on these plans to do more and more enrichment work at calm Israel sees its window for effective action closing so I think it's Very likely that in the next six months or so if we don't get a deal, and Israel isn't absolutely convinced that the United States Will take action if necessary later on which I think is going to be a very hard case to make That that Israel will take actions So I do think that there's

1:27:16 You know, it's difficult to say but uh you know To put a point estimate on it But there is a high probability that there will be a conflict this year. So what school does this professor attend? Georgetown I'm boycotting that Georgetown is a horrible institution How can you have this guy representing you and now like Oh Romney And you know he's the chosen one and that guy is all about bombing. Oh by the way, it's also at the Council on foreign relations Mm-hmm his name is Kroenig's k ro e n ig if you want to look him up on beyond the wiki His name is douchebag

1:27:52 They have changed his name now officially. So they are all talking about the possibilities of this, you know that all the intelligence guys are full of crap and the Iranians are being very careful to keep their enrichment under 20 percent which is you need 90 but they said well they're enriching in twenty percent which is what you use for for making a energy producing facility but they can take all that back and they can crank it up and they make the weapon. All these guys, this guy by the way I don't have all his clips he was on forever He says that they could make a bomb in four weeks Four weeks from today! You gotta get that clip because the president couldn't use that you say it only takes a handful of this material In 4 weeks? That's not even two paychecks

1:28:40 You'll be dead from the Iranians, evil Iranians. The logic of the Iranians bomb... you know that the fear is all they're gonna throw a missile and they are worried about this They're gonna throw a missile into Jerusalem or Tel Aviv actually would be the target and it would create a cloud of radioactive dust that would go into Russia It would create... It's not gonna happen! This is ridiculous. I know it's not going to happen because it makes no sense. No, makes no sense You know what? You know why makes some sense Because we have a savior And this is a YouTube clip that has now gone viral from Benjamin Fulford

1:29:22 Are you familiar with his name? Benjamin Fulford has been getting a lot of exposure in the past couple of weeks. He is, as he says, a representative of the White Hat Dragon Organization I think that's what it is... The White Dragon Organization and this is a YouTube clip from Japan. How do you spell his name? Benjamin Fulford And he did a press conference with two amazing guys, and I'm going to play you his intro because we my friend are saved. Hello humans! I am Benjamin Fulford spokesperson for the White Dragon Society With me here is Chodoin Daigaku He's the head of the world's martial arts societies and if necessary

1:30:05 And in an emergency, he can summon up an army of 200 million people worldwide. That's 200 million ninjas John! 200 million ninjas who could be summoned worldwide in a heartbeat Here on my right is Alexander Romanov who is the grandmaster of an Illuminati group that claims to have started the French Russian and American revolutions As you may know, there has been a battle going on over the future of this planet. The western countries have been taken over by a mafia organization all composed of members of the same clan and they're not Jews okay? They worship Lucifer.

1:30:51 And they want a world government controlled by them with the rest of us in perpetual debt slavery and drudgery, and with no hope of ever ruling our own destinies. We offer a very different vision We offer world peace. We offer $100,000 for every man woman and child to be delivered in the form of schools hospitals free education nature preserves and all the sort of things that most people want we all want to stop world poverty we want to stop environmental destruction and we always wish to have a prosperous and happy peaceful future and thats the alternative we are offering thank you

1:31:35 So, um... This guy could be a little have a little more charisma. Let me just read you from his blog As predicted the collapse of the Satan-worshipping financial mafia is accelerating Well, this is the guy that's been tracking all the bankers by the way who've been quitting and leaving The 350 bankers so it you know I have learned John in my life never to laugh at the crazy guy You also shouldn't argue with him, but never that's for sure. Never laugh at him because that is typically the guy who is right on top of his game or Has a billion dollars to invest or I've seen it so many times that I don't laugh too hard I did have to laugh about The the guy who can summon the 200 million ninjas this guy he's fantastic He's wearing a bowler hat

1:32:25 He's got a big stick with all kinds of ropes and snakes off of it, and he's got the sunglasses. I mean not only that but he has the voice! And he believes that Putin who is a judo student is the right guy to lead the world and his 200 million ninjas... Benjamin who speaks fluent Japanese will translate but listen to this guy's voice. He's everything you want in the ninja leader master I love Benjamin going, yeah. Yeah indeed. Yes the international associations of Bushido Karate Judo

1:33:28 Kung Fu, etc. can muster worldwide at any given time 200 million people and they only fight under the code of chivalry which is you don't attack women children and non-combatants Which is what the other side has been doing I love this guy But you know what Bet you there's something to that I bet you there is, you know of all the the judos Jiu-jitsu's the all these guys. I bet you there is an organization that has like some secret network and maybe this is a guy Yeah sure listen to what he says about Putin He believes that with Putin's help and the martial art societies worldwide we can cause major change And of course

1:34:24 the Illuminati who are throughout the Western intelligence agencies, military and this is not the Italian Illuminati. This is the Gnostic Illuminati and they want meritocracy ruled by people who are the best people who work their way up to system not people were born into it and have given to them even though they're often not very bright so... It's funny But I'm not really laughing too hard because you know, I am okay. I knew you'd appreciate it Oh yeah, no, I like that guy's voice too he's good He looks the part though. He is so awesome. He's so awesome Putin's a man Putin is going to save us my friend William on top of that you might as well play I feel terrible

1:35:19 I feel terrible. I just cannot sit here and concentrate on my lines because i'm so nauseous Who's that? It's somebody in the world's next model or whatever the hell God, you watch that? Can't watch that clip! Oh my goodness ahh You're horrible Let me um Do you remember we talked about this new woman who is now the undersecretary of state Her name is Sherman her last name Sherman and let me see what her first name on a way back machine Let me see Cindy Sherman no it's not Cindy she looks. She's at dead ringer without the wrinkles for The IMF woman Wendy Sherman Wendy yeah look at her She looks just like Christine Lagarde check her out

1:36:16 You see the picture? Jeez, she does! It's like a dead ringer. Like a clone separated at birth Yeah except she doesn't have all the wrinkles She has a younger version Because you know because you didn't have the Chicago Mafia sitting on her face No, right that and injecting lamb fetuses into our system Right Just born in 1949, she is just as old So she... She is probably more wrinkly than she looks in this photo No, I have video from her and because it was a big conference and Johnny Carson was there Which is what always makes me laugh because of course it's not the dead Johnny Carson talk show host But it's Johnny Carson Johnny who is in charge of Africa. He's the he's another State Department here's Johnny

1:36:59 So this clip is a little long two minutes But I think very interesting to hear the hubris of the United States State Department. This would be a clippity-clop state We got a remix, I like it and listen to the hubris Her talking about Africa and how great Africa is for America for the world How we're going to help them how we're so awesome Not a word about the Chinas in there by the way not a single word about the China's just have a listen Africa has changed Substantially over the past decade and it is in my yeah, China built it up. It's kicking ass I

1:37:51 That's why it has changed substantially over the past decade. You way passed time to recognize the positive developments that are occurring and the enormous potential that they present for Africa, for the United States and for the global community I just get a kick out of that! Apparently It is awesome for us Africa is a continent on the move. And has begun to- They're running away from your drones! That's why they're on the move, like... Hey! Hey Kunta Kinte! There's another drone man let's run! That's why they are on the move. Realize some of the economic gains that have eluded it in the past Six Of the ten fastest growing countries in the world Are in Sub Saharan Africa I think most people would find that an astonishing fact Oh Fact?

1:38:44 astonishing fact and the IMF predicts that over the next five years sub-Saharan Africa Are you starting to get a picture as to why we've got all these bases there and drones and all that? I mean, it's starting to make sense. Isn't it people? I visited two of those fastest growing countries Angola in Nigeria As well as Zambia Malawi And Kenya She picked up a baby in Malawi She went to Nigeria to pick her money And she went to Malawi To pick up a baby It is clear that those dramatic changes That I spoke of are happening Yeah As we look at Africa

1:39:27 It's important to both look at and look beyond the headlines, and I wanted to stop for a moment to note two very positive outcomes in what is sometimes a difficult space. Okay, positive outcomes – things that are good in Africa. For 500, Alex? Ambassador Carson will travel soon to be part of the delegation representing United States at the inauguration of the new president of Senegal, President Salle. This was a peaceful transfer. This is so nice, we didn't have to bomb anybody We just wanted and said put our guy in or else we'll kick your ass And this was so nice they did exactly what we told them to do at gunpoint of democratic power

1:40:15 and I salute President Watt for accepting the election. Are you in the army lady? You can salute them! And stepping aside, and it's an important milestone... Stepping aside?! It is good yes. ...for Africa Similarly although none of us were very excited Now listen to what she said about the in essence in quotes junta in Mali and see this as a setback for a long tradition of democracy in Mali. We are also incredibly heartened by ECOWAS's efforts to mediate and to move back to democracy in Mali, and support the people of Mali to do so quickly again. A real statement about the growing strength of regional institutions

1:41:10 So if I understood her correctly, he's saying it's too bad we had a couple people that would be killed over that but we're pretty encouraged by it. That's what I heard her say Yeah, she's obviously playing the you know one of the she's the what the jackal or she or the front man they first You got your guys go in there say you gotta take some loans from these guys. You got it. You know yeah, the economic dirtman Yeah, this is John and they say we don't want to and then I see well You know maybe you should look at my next thing you know somebody's dead her speech by the way was titled The New Decade colon seizing opportunities from a transforming Africa

1:41:49 And the ECOWAS commission that you mentioned in there, you might want to take a look at that and put it in the show notes. ecowas dot int. Ecowas is the economic community of West African states It's pretty much the European Union They've got the same kind of building even if you look at their website And, you know it's got Cabo Verde, Cote d'Ivoire, Gambia Ghana Guinea, Guinea-Bissau Liberia Mali Niger Nigeria Senegal Sierra Leone It's our United States of Africa that is being built right there. Well I just need to get the Chiners out Yeah. But we got to remember that we still have to watch because we have a, uh, we've got a clue that Malawi is a place to wash and she visited there too you know? Oh yeah! Yes she did And then she went there to tell them, to tell the Malawis look you gotta take... You got two... You got 15 days

1:42:39 You gotta work with the IMF and World Bank to put an economic plan in place so you can meet your energy needs. They got energy all over the place, they're drowning in energy! So apparently this guy, this head honcho guy is some President Bingu Wa Matherika, I can't pronounce his name obviously. He's adamant about this and he's creating a stir by saying you know we could take care of our own business but you know and there's like this battle going on this guy is gonna be gone yeah watch that it is my Red Book. And what's his name again?

1:43:21 President bingu, B-I-N-G-U-A W-A whatever that comes from. Bingduwagon is his new name. Mutharika! Bingduwagon. Bingabongubunga. Bingduwagon you're out mofo we're taking all your oil your democracy and your babies and here's Madonna to smooth it all over so we feel good about it yeah I think was Robert Leather, one of our producers who sent me this great clip from the BBC. Just let's stay in Africa for a second. Let's move up north. This is... I'm gonna send you this article. Yeah please do yeah i want to put it in the show notes thank you Alex Crawford is a reporter for I think Sky and she was the one who did the interview Do you recall that the crazy guy who had Gaddafi's hat

1:44:13 Oh yeah. Remember that? Yeah the hat and there was another guy with a gold gun, is it the same guy? No I think he had the gold chain in the hat so she's on the BBC being interviewed about this story of her life and this just shows you Because you know I think we're doing, you know. We're trying to research, we read legislation and do the work You know? We try to bring you some news try to clarify it so you understand at least what's going on. Yeah! We just dissected this Sherman woman what she's doing and she's saying it you know that's very clear. I mean how can... They don't lie.

1:44:52 Kind of leave things out they subvert information, but they they all you can pull it out You can pull the truth out right so she this woman is a reporter She's so dumb when you hear her explain how she fell into this story It's so obvious that This is the whole thing was fake This guy with Gaddafi's hat, this will crack you up. ...mind the... go and find my way across the town to the port Explain to us about the title Colonel Gaddafi's Hat That is quite a significant hat in all of the story isn't it? When we went back in August when Tripoli finally was reclaimed by the rebels

1:45:37 we went into the compound as they were breaking through and in amongst this absolute chaos there was hundreds of people running all over the place rampaging through their houses pillaging and firing guns all over the place out of this mayhem walks this young man was wearing a rather splendid sort of hat. And his ones were still a scrap of background, the side to the... Yeah it was all very elaborate and so on. And he kind of- He was like a sort of figure that you know, you think am I imagining this? Because he walked out of smoke and came towards us

1:46:12 Brandish now he walked out of smoke like out of nowhere John is out of smoke. Hey, but wait There's more thing I think one of his fly swatters and wearing this big gold necklace around his neck And I thought I've got to interview this guy and unbelievably he spoke perfect English Unbelievably unbelievable my luck you walk out of smoke and he had a hat he spoke perfect English, it's unbelievable I didn't question this at all and he just walked up and i said well where did you get the hat? And he said I've just been into...and he couldn't even believe his oh my god! I've just been into Colonel Gaddafi's bedroom and have taken his hat. He delivered what I thought was this amazing sort of speech about now is the time for our country to be...And he had a whole speech prepared

1:47:04 Amazing speech he walked out of the smoke. He spoke English he had a speech prepared come together We've got to stop all the fighting it was like this sort of Churchillian speech in the middle of this absolute chaos How could it be possible? I don't understand. He was a real character, but the fantastic piece of I mean very well-deserved luck after what you've been through to find that the man who had looted the Colonel's hat on fly swat and gold chain spoke good English Fantastic moment it was a whole series of very fortunate or unfortunate events Not for a second does even the in so do you think it's possible that this was bullcrap? Yeah

1:47:45 How how unbelievable is imagine some a some some Agent there was a bunch of guys he would they showed this when did when they were having this first right? There was up these in these guys that were dressed in the Western They were dressed kind of like in Western gear of some sort, but they were obviously western Europeans and And I can just imagine a couple of them, you know that are orchestrating this thing. Oh that oh see her Yeah She's the stupidest BBC reporter in the world she'll believe anything Oh Then we should send what says You know bill over here with it with the hat and see if he can run when the thing on her well There's a tip-off and I bet you five bucks. She buys it Bob bites Luke line and sinker out I'm out for that bet there's something you missed in here though

1:48:27 And let me see if I can roll it back to that piece. Oh my god, i've just been into Colonel Gaddafi's bedroom! He said oh my god? Really the guy in Libya Yeah really he said oh my God. Oh my God yeah. Oh my God She came out and said OMG LOL L-O-L-O-M-G I've got I've got the mofo's hat so if this So that's what passes as news coverage? That's what passes as news. Idiot reporters that believe anything! Well, you know here is an interesting clip from the Afghanistan killings which confirms at least one of the rumors going around and this is a reporter from Australia who seems to... Who was actually a female that was why we can't seem to get hold of any people that know about the killing that took place by that maniac. By the whole team with helicopters

1:49:26 roaming around Afghanistan having no problem getting access here and there but she's reporting just what she sees and she's not you know, getting all giddy about it. Play that! They're desperate for their story to come out And what did they tell you? What were some of the specifics of what they told you happened that night There are some horrific accounts, Erin. I spoke to one woman who told me how her husband had been shot in the head and how she drags him into her house and she had his brain in her hands. You know deeply traumatic sort of stories that they were telling me She also then told me there were 15-20 Americans standing in her yard ushering her back inside her house These are difficult...they're intense claims that she's making

1:50:12 really match up to some of the other claims that uh... some of the children told me they tell you that one american into their home in one america and i'm sure it's a bit family members who there are a lot of disparities in the stories it's difficult to know uh... who saw what's and when yeah let's just uh... x-ray on the a latune pay and the helicopter A that was I lying face your pigman sucks yeah but it's like because they didn't match up with the kids who are traumatized and shot up You know, and now they're saying oh the guy had malaria vaccine and that can cause you to go psycho. Have you heard of this? There's something very suspicious about this whole situation Well yeah it's a cover up obviously Yeah it's a cover-up obviously but what was there an assassination of some specific people or some person What was the deal I think there is something very strange about this whole thing

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2:04:24 from the CDC that was all over the news, interspersed in between all of the bull crap about stirring up racism in America. I don't know if you've seen this report John? The CDC released a report that stated that one in 88 children in the United States of Gitmo Nation has autism. Yeah! And so of course I'm like wow let me dive into this And so I have the report and all of the, in fact it's under vaccines obviously. There's an entire listing in the show notes three nine or six on anyshownotes.com which includes the actual CDC report. And I noticed something new and I have some data to back it up this is they've changed

2:05:20 definition of this disease from autism to the Autism Spectrum Disorder and this is very significant. But first let me bring you the co-chair of the Autism Subcommittee, and she has a nice little video talking about this new survey which by whether more children have autism spectrum disorder or we just have better ways of researching and we're finding more of them. So it's a little bit of an unfair report to say there are more kids than ever that have autism because it may just be all the sudden their research improved somehow, they know what it is. Let us listen for second to set us all up. Physicians and primary care providers need to be comfortable

2:06:19 and reassuring parents that this is not due to vaccination practice. Right, I'm sorry forgot to mention none of this is due to vaccination practice and physicians need to be comfortable saying this And help them identify resources in their communities for effective treatment and for the support that they need. So, effective treatment... Now these things are catching my eye let's listen to another little bit of her about screening and effective treatment For pediatricians and the primary care providers providing a medical home it's

2:06:56 It's really very important to pay attention to the Academy of Pediatric Screening Recommendations, to do a formal screening evaluation for autism at 18 and 24 months of age. Failed screening and a referred for second more expert diagnosis, either to developmental behavioral pediatrician or child neurologist or child psychiatrist. It's really very important that standard diagnostic criteria are used so that we can best serve children, make the most accurate diagnoses and refer children for effective treatment. Okay, a couple things here I have two analyses of this and i'll give you the most likely one first which is just unbelievable

2:07:52 So what you're hearing her say is we have to have across the board, everyone has to screen for autism in the exact same way. Now I look up a definition of autism And this is as defined by the Autism Society of America, I quote and she just said it actually. Autism is a complex developmental disability that typically appears during the first three years of life and is the result of a neurological disorder that affects the normal functioning of the brain impacting development in the areas of social interaction and communication skills both children and adults with autism typically show difficulties in verbal and nonverbal communication

2:08:36 But you can't do a CAT scan, you can't take blood. This is as determined by someone who will sit with your child typically between 18 and 24 months and here are some of the characteristics they'll be looking at. And notice by the way that you can fail the autism screening which I thought was an astounding use of the word so if you fail then we have to move over to effective treatment which i'll get to in a moment So here are some of the things that are most commonly found characteristics of autism. And autism, by the way... There's something real going on here I'm not making light of this but we know it's not vaccines that's out of the question The child is unable to coo by 12 months

2:09:23 The child does not point or gesture by 12 months, does not say single words by 16 months. Does not say two or more words by 24 months and has lost some of social skills or language abilities other characteristics include No fear of danger over-or under sensitivity to pain May avoid eye contact with you may prefer to be by him or herself This is me by the way Has difficulty expressing what they want or need. They may try to use gestures, may echo words or phrases... And can't point? Can't point. Okay go on. I'm sorry it just doesn't make sense May spin him- or herself objects that's kind of cool. Good place in the 60s a lot. Stop spinning!

2:10:14 Prolonged repetitive play may insist on things routines always being the same so this sounds like a number of different things Yeah, it does. Well this is very important because this boils down to The writing at this very moment of the DSM 5 the DSM 5 is so we're currently at number 4. DSM 5 is the it's the book, it's The Bible on Mental Disorders and they have changed something as I said earlier they have changed something and they are now including other symptoms such as Asperger's, obsessive-compulsive disorder depression all these different symptoms and they're putting it all into the autistic spectrum diagnosis. And this is very important when this comes out in the new year because of this

2:11:14 The drug companies will now be able to market drugs, and this comes down to the effective treatment. They'll be able to market drugs based upon symptoms of autism spectrum disorder. So for instance we already have this with Alzheimer's so with Alzheimer's you can say well one of the symptoms of Alzheimer's is you can't tie your shoelaces So we have a drug for tying your shoelaces. So even though you may not really have autism necessarily, you may have one of the symptoms which we already have a drug for that we can now include as a drug for autism. Are you with me? You know it's yeah... Yeah so some of the newer anti-psychotic medications which so far have been prescribed

2:12:10 What do you call it? Not off book, off label. Are right. You explain what off label is to people that don't know. Off label means it was approved by the FDA, the Food and Drug Administration for treatment of one particular symptom of something and they'll say but you can use this instead of Viagra because it also works for that Or, you know if you have Asperger's then this antidepressant. You can use that for that it is not officially approved for but you can use it off label for that So this will now enable the drug companies to prescribe Risperdone, Zyprexa and Geodon For autistic spectrum disorder And wouldn't you know That Geodon has gone generic That Zyprexa Has gone generic

2:13:08 So my obvious conclusion is that this is taking into account that they're not sure if actually autism and ASD has increased or they just have better research methods, that this is a horrible way to get their out-of-patent drugs into the system. With the addition of that the American Academy of Pediatrics is now recommending autism screening for all children between 18 months and 2 years old. So you have a very good chance that the doctor's going to say, kid can't point! Kid spinning!

2:13:53 Get him on some drugs and these drugs are antidepressants. Put them on drugs. They're psychotic drugs, they're cypotropic, they're anti-psychotics. That's really make him nuts! It's really really an outrage that's a total outrage it's ridiculous what's going on? And I think there's also something wrong with the patent system because the idea of course is to get a patent extension for this new use Of course. So this stuff stays kind of you know in patent which is bullcrap You know, when something goes generic for whatever reason it's an invention that was used for something specific. But once that molecule is invented and the process of making it which is part of the patent usually That gets past a date where it goes out of patent It's out of patent I don't care what else could be used for Could use as diet pill or upper or you know something to relieve stomach aches who cares? But see the thing is they can say

2:14:52 Well, because your kid has ass... is it? because your kid falls within the autistic spectrum disorder now, which includes all these other symptoms. They can say well you need some antidepressant 18 months John! They're gonna put 18 month children on anti-depressants? Yeah I wonder what that's gonna do for the general population when these people get older Now so that is obviously what is happening It may sound a little crackpotty, but because of course no one they're saying well actually let me play the This is very interesting. This was the CNN autism report and right at the beginning it starts off with this kid who has autism And he's on his iPad and you got to see the video and he is he's rolling through this thing He's incredibly fast like rain man on the iPad

2:15:49 It's also a little iPad promotion in there, but it's just like I've never...I mean I can't use my iPad as effectively and quickly as this kid. And he is like doing stuff And just listen to all the different words. The experts, by the way who pop up in this thing are all from an autism clinic commercial clinics you know and it's Sanjay Gupta so you know somethings up but just listen to it Frankie Sanders is a ninth grader who loves to play chess on his iPad and he's trying to pass the test for his driver's permit Frankie also has autism. As you may know, that's a neurodevelopmental disorder that affects language behavior and social skills Boys make up the vast majority of cases What you may not know is that 12 years ago The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention began to estimate the total number of cases in the United States They based it on account of eight-year old children with autism in select communities

2:16:46 If you look back in the years 2000 and 2002, it was about one child in 150 with autism. Two years later 1 in 125 then one 110 and now the latest report as of 2008 the last time an estimate was performed 188 children has autism that's a 78% increase just over the last decade and the question on a lot of people's minds is why. How much of that increase is a result of better tracking and how much of it as a result to an actual increase we still don't know. Researchers have discovered many genes linked autism but in most cases jeans are only one part the equation, and jeans alone wouldn't change that fast in just 10 years there's something else that triggers the problem

2:17:35 We're talking about infections, we're talking about social conditions and we are talking about exposures to toxicants things in the environment. Researchers are still looking for answers but what they do know is that diagnosing children early is critical as was the case with Frankie Sanders Frankie was diagnosed when he was 15 months old. He immediately began to get speech therapy and occupational therapy and physical therapy, he was placed in a group with kids who were typically developing All that hard work is paying off! Frankie is now fifteen. He attends a regular high school and plays on the football team We can diagnose autism at two years of age almost always by 90% of children By three certainly

2:18:20 and we actually can diagnose it at 18 months in many children. But according to this new report, most cases are diagnosed late after age 2 or 3 that's when therapy has been shown to help the most especially with speech and communication Parents need to be aware of their children and how they're interacting And then, they need to seek help. If you as a parent are concerned about your child talk to your doctor talk to your school system to see if they should be assessed get them assessed This is small this is big keep going Dr Sanjay Gupta CNN So there's Sanjay Gupta pushing you pushing you as a parent to hey my kid's weird the kids spin in doing whatever I love this spinning thing yeah

2:19:05 And what they've taken, they've taken this poor boy and they forced him into football. Which I think is wrong. Here's what I believe John. What? You forced him into football?! Yeah no the physical shit! Make them code! We, so you know bringing up the vaccine thing which interestingly was not in the report because of course you know that's all fake. That's all false that's not happening. That's not true it can't be anything in the vaccines by the way should have your child screen for autism when they're 18 months after they've received their first 20 vaccinations. That would be a good time to go and check and see if they develop autism but I'm not a medical expert and that's oh your anti-vaxxer whatever

2:19:52 I think we are seeing evolution and i really believe that the children who are being born now, are an evolved species. Are incredibly smart have something beyond our comprehension and... We need to drug the shit out of them because we can't have these smart kids running around I really think there's something going on here. That is an interesting crackpot idea, now let me mention something that was going around a little piece of information there is a thing it's called Flynn's axiom or something like that is that every generation and there's a punchline to this every generation that comes along has actually technically a higher IQ than the generation that preceded it

2:20:41 Yes, of course. That's just a common thing? It is evolution! Now and it obviously has something to do with that I do have to mention one little gotcha which is a...and this has always been true until Right now when only in one area in Gitmo nation East mm-hmm the UK the IQ for the first time it that's the only way the US is still going up went down really Yeah, whose report. Is that isn't that interesting? I'm working on getting to documentation for that JC was telling me about it really yeah Isn't that weird they got dumber yeah

2:21:18 Aren't you glad you left? Well, no it's too late for me. But I'm really thinking that something else is going on here because they can't find it the geniuses can't find so either They're all really really horrible people and they just want to help sell more antidepressant crap which I'm not putting beyond the realm of possibility I'm really not. Well, when the public relations agencies get their act together they can really do a lot of damage Yeah yeah well someone really went out on this one and the CDC website it's just all about this and autism but it's really its get your kids screened got to get them screened so to me it's like you know everybody wins on the side of evil we get to sell them drugs

2:22:06 Suppress them into submission and be a slave our way, you know not you don't get to choose your hamburger You know we're gonna put you on these drugs. I'm going to play football son And it's disturbing to me and I would love to hear from I know I'm sure just looking at these percentages We must have a lot of parents who have kids who are on the spectrum as it's called. I've read several books on that, uh, on the topic. Uh, some of the authors that I interviewed for The Big Book Show um write book they have kids with autism and write books about it and it's called On The Spectrum And most of them don't believe the vaccine story but you know I've...I know parents with autistic kids

2:22:52 And yeah, they spin a lot but they're very entertaining. Now that's... No no I mean it but there is not all the kids on this spectrum Bill Gates has a form of autism he would be probably drugged today He probably is drugged! Bill Gates? I don't think so But I just don't think drugging is the answer Drugging is not the answer by the way that lower...I've got the link I'll send it to you for the IQ thing who showed up in Prospect magazine out of the UK actually. It says average IQ is falling in Britain and beyond, I guess there's a few other places too. Intelligence quotients have written in developed nations for almost a century the phenomenon called the Flynn effect was first identified in 1984 in United States but apparently it's now reversing in certain parts of the world but Britain has found the reversal. So also Norway and Denmark are the other two

2:23:47 And a lot of people are saying, well it's because of all the toxins and mothers are drinking fluoride and all that. I'm just not buying it! You know, about the autism? Yeah. I'm just...I don't know perhaps Well we don't know The thing is they don't know and the way they test it's like oh the kids spin it They don't care all they're gonna do is give the kids drugs that's all their looking for an excuse I'm sorry I totally buy into the bad aspect of it Well, that's okay. I mean, I do too but I have hope...I have a hope that these are really just special children who are geniuses and they're gonna you know there if I had to put my money on the 200 million ninjas or the autism kids give me the autism kids any day

2:24:36 That's what I'm saying. Yeah, well you're the one that brought the 200 million into this stuff The way they like to do these... You know? I like the way they redefine things over and over And it reminds me of something i just read Actually was a red guy picked up There is book by Turvey people might want look at called Criminal Profiling Another book for the book club. Witches were part of the early days of profiling and, of course you're profiling these kids to assume autism I want to read from the 1400s how you would find and determine if someone was a witch? I think it's quite amusing Does it have to do with spinning

2:25:16 No. Well, maybe! But I think... Think about this for a while and since we're wrapping up the show about what is which? Ready? Yeah This is the main characteristics and then I have secondary characteristics which are even more interesting You have a spot or scar or birthmark sometimes on the genitals and sometimes invisible to the Inquisitor's eye They live alone They keep pets. Oh no! Cats. Uh-huh? They suffer symptoms of mental illness, auditory or visual hallucinations. They cultivate medicinal herbs Nooo! They have no children This is the way they were used to get rid of spinsters and now here's specific descriptions Witches have the power to make men impotent and unable to copulate

2:26:10 By looking at him. That's yeah, well you're getting a picture here of the yeah that's hold on a second the science is in Which is use spells images and charms My lucky charms and witches cannot bear children Mm-hmm. So this was you know, so this is all official This is the same kind of thing. This is that was DSM one? This is all mumbo jumbo bold crap used to propagate some sort of a An agenda yeah And yes in this case it was they get rid of the homely girls that wouldn't screw anybody I guess in the town but You know so this is nothing new

2:26:55 Well, but I'm saddened because I see these parents you know and John your parent. You know if your kid spinning around the doctor says I love that picture by the way spitting on his head like a breakdancer. Breakdancer! And the doctor says oh my god your kid has is on the spectrum but no we have an effective cure effective cure when teach him how to play football and put them on some drugs Yeah, the football thing's a little sick. Yeah yeah that's exactly what I doesn't want to play football maybe he likes to spin become a great dancer great spinner exact thank you now You're talking my language i think another term is indigo children star children in to go children everywhere but the uk well i wonder if the autism isn't as not as high if it all to them is different in the UK they're just going into retardation there's a whole different problem anyway

2:27:54 That's your pharmaceutical industry everybody. Doping you up, so do with it as you wish all we do here is just try to pull it all apart and show you what's going on And, uh... Yeah. There's something else that should be mentioned since we're talking about medical stuff. Yeah? There was a real interesting article that ran around nature and then I guess it was re-reported by Reuters which just really makes you wonder about any of this stuff. Let me just read a quote. By the way... It kind of explains during his decade as head of global cancer research at Amgen Glenn Begley identified. Do you know about this? No

2:28:32 I know Amgen. They found 53 landmark publications and top journals from reputable labs, it turns out they can't reproduce any of these cancer things because it turned out that the people that were investing you know taking money from building to donate to cancer research would only give money if you showed something positive so if you like worked your ass off for three years on a cancer study and it didn't come up positive? You found out nothing yeah get no money Yeah of course! So we got to have the cure So all these reports, so apparently 53 landmark reports are all bogus. Yeah oh really? 53 do you have a list? Yeah he does have a list. Geez... Well actually of the 53 47 couldn't be replicated

2:29:16 So in other words, most of them are bogus. And it was just because of the money... This is the problem that we have just generally speaking a completely corrupt system that can't even get us real information and we won't admit it. Somebody won't fund a report that doesn't come up with something positive they got to feel good about their philanthropy Well I'll tell you man, We've gotta be so careful There was another report that came out. First of all, the IPCC came out with a new report. Unbelievable evidence suggests that climate change has led to extreme weather conditions such as heat waves record high temperatures and many regions heavy precipitation this is the new IPCC Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Report. Can you stop for a minute? I have to ask a question isn't climate and weather two different things so aren't they

2:30:12 Yeah, well this is why we have to have an official report to put that back in because... Oh climate is weather now? Climate is weather. Correct. Ohhh they've changed it! Yes climate is whether you've got it but then I ran across this news release from the University of Oregon and this woman is Kari Marie Norgaard professor of sociology and environmental studies at the University of O And she has put out a paper which is... The science is in! Fact. Resistance at individual and societal levels must be recognized and treated before real action can be taken to effectively address threats facing the planet from human-caused contributions to climate change

2:31:08 You know what that means, don't you? Yeah. Curry Dvorak time for your pill! Time for your... No! We can have anybody saying anything we must- you must obey. You have to obey. But not just that. Hit it hit it no I'm looking for it and I don't know where it is I always miss that one. I'm lame Hey but we have to be treated That's the worst part We have to be treated. Treated means drugs my friend! Well you know I think, Clinton by the way is being treated because he now... play the clip He now thinks he's a woman What? Hillary or Bill? Bill No How can women like me who want to help women in Haiti and other places across the world actually do that

2:32:05 Alright, alright. You get it my friend. What an idiot! And he's also at the... He is at his big meeting of the universities and just sitting there. The guy looks terrible by the way. Play that other one, the Clinton infects others clip. Oh God this is... Wait there is more. Young people in universities and colleges around the country who do this. In other words, instead of doing what I do which is try to bring everybody many people's who can't hear every year and get them to go home and infect others in a positive way was this his thing with Jon Stewart? Was that what that was? No no This is the this is the Clinton initiative he has at university meeting every year Go home and infect somebody bitches! He's just out of it Well...I don't think I can compete with that

2:32:58 Wow He dude he needs help He needs help. Well, I do have senator Saxby shambles or Senator sax be a Saxby shambles from Georgia And here was on morning morning douche with Milika Brzezinski whatever her name is and Joe Joe scabbard scabbard scabbard uh-huh that blew me away about How what has changed the partisanship of politics? You've got to get kick out of this. I think it still works the way the framers intended for it to work particularly compared to the house But the fact that matter is a partisanship has gotten worse and worse every year that I've been there And you know, you don't

2:33:52 You don't have folks arguing with each other and then going outside and having a drink together like you used to hear about, and we still hear the stories about. Yeah I mean so it's worse...I mean we always heard that when Newt came to power when we came in town That was the great divide but its worse than it was even in the 90s when We were in the house yeah I dont think there is any question of what its worst And I think one thing thats made it that way Is C-SPAN very honestly All 80 people watching! Wow. Is C-SPAN... There's a little more to it. You got folks on TV and now they instead of doing political commercials, they rant and rave during dinner time in the East Coast And then at 9 o'clock you see the West Coast guys up there Does he really think? is he..is he..is he.. I know the answer yes He's insane Nobody watches c-spam but us

2:34:52 You think it's constituents watch everybody in the household I might add moans and groans Are you watching ugly people again that crap are you watching ugly people again? Yeah, exactly well of course have to like tape a lot of this stuff and then watching in my own you know my Nobody else is yeah. No. I've got it on in the studio And then uh you know if I if I And it's continuously recording so I can spin something back if i see it. But most of the time, It is very handy to say the C-SPAN website you can search the... Yeah, C-SPAN websites great! Well the video player sucks balls but you can search the transcripts

2:35:31 Those are pretty good, so you can just go and zip in and find something. And also sometimes it stops like you're an hour and 20 minutes into it... Yeah they stop! They have some technical issues that I wish they would have mp3 files that you could just download. They do but you have to pay for them You can buy anything they have but it costs like $20 bucks Yeah, that's what I mean. They should just have them available. Yeah well duh Yeah, otherwise you have to record it and clip it. It's like just... yeah. Well let that be our problem because that is what we do So you don't have too? That's right Are you doing Twitch today? Yeah I am Tell Leo to get me on one of these days! I do that all constantly and he says no problem Okay Ah play for the Three Stooges movie Yes Just a little one

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