Fractals on the Bone

00:00 This show is the worst ever. No wonder people don't want to help us out! Put Manning back on! What? Obama's behind?! Whoop him, whoop him, whoop him! Adam Curry John C. DeVora It's Sunday January 15th 2012 time for your Gizmo Nation media assassination episode 374 This is no agenda Molesting the mainstream media from Camp MoFo here in Austin, Texas. The capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where we're coming down from the buzz of the Miss America contest I'm John C. Dvorak You know that's so funny because I was downstairs in the in the camp mofo studios last night

00:49 and I'm literally working on my homework, you know the SOPA PIPA open thing. And I'm plowing through documents and then Mickey's texting me like She's texting from upstairs downstairs. She says like, Oh my God this is so amazing! This Miss America is too funny! She never seen it before? I guess not and uh... It's hilarious And she's texting like what they're saying Like I almost swallowed a diamond! All kinds of crazy stuff Yeah stupid shit And I'm like you know what I'm so happy to say that I know John Is watching and recording Its a tradition here on the No Agenda Show It really is a tradition I did peak though

01:32 for a second at the question and answers or I don't know maybe one of them. I guess five girls had to answer questions or something? Yeah, they kicked five off... The way they're kicking people off was pretty cold-blooded i thought but But let me tell you These girls I mean They're ready for Fox News. They're so good Oh one of them was showing a lot of leg and she wanted to be a broadcast journalist the one who played the piano Some woman who played Dvorak's Fifth Symphony or New World Symphony they drowned her out what? Yeah, oh yeah. No because she can't play! Oh she's no good? Okay... Yeah she's pounding away on the piano you can hear a note but she showing a lot of leg. Yeah who cares about it? You don't need to sing just show me your legs girl Well first of all in the morning to you there Jean-Claude In the morning to you Adam Curry in the morning to all ships at sea boots on the ground and feet in the air Yes in the morning to all the cruise ships listing

02:30 To one side and of course all of our human resources in the chat room always here We have a full quorum no agenda stream calm. No agenda chat net nice to have you guys here They've always got our backs John just in case we mess up there are ways there to tell us what we're doing wrong Yeah, they are. Somebody's got to do it. That's right It's a tough job keep that's the modern broadcast model you have an instant feedback and Mistakes don't go very far when you make one it gets corrected in real time You don't have to do mea culpa sir anything remember when we used to have what are they phone lines? Yeah? Three hey man you're wrong What an antiquated system that was

03:13 You'd be playing a record. But not even that! It's like, you know in commercials... Hello? And then hey man you were wrong what you just said oh okay whatever yeah most people are pretty cold-blooded about it too Yeah no kidding Well I can get to the Miss America thing and get it out of the way if you want Oh, please. Oh please indulge me John I have one two three four clips and... What? No! You got- I don't know if i can allow more than three Miss America clips These are worth it Okay But mainly because one of the clips is more of a uh there's two clips that are kind of Can we just explain why we do this first

03:53 I think it's just because it is easy ridicule and apparently, it's a rigged competition. You can also see the political scene going on It always reflected like the World Cup you know the team that gonna win is the team that has some reason to win Was this another Donald Trump production? No, no. This is the old original one. This is pre-Trump. Trump does The Miss USA. Oh! So this was old school... Okay And then this is the one that has the talent competition which Miss USA doesn't bother with. Which is too bad because that's the best I have to say their bikinis on some of these guys at least two especially Miss California was jaw dropping

04:31 That mean these women had jaw-dropping figures for a change. Yeah, okay except for the one woman There's apparently some woman that was weighed like 300 pounds and then she came into the competition She lost like 250 pounds should be the spokesperson for Jenny Craig. She's now 50 pounds hey so were there any contestants with uh... missing limbs or anything cool like that? No, no there wasn't anything like that. That'll be next year. Let me just play you a couple of things I thought were interesting to note Miss California who had one of the most amazing figures in the competition but she had other issues but she uh... What do you mean she has issues?! In terms of judging she was too tan, she had a square face There's all these problems Oh this is so wrong! Square face

05:21 So, uh... but she they had these women when they came on I think during one of the sessions they would talk over the music in apparently some pre-recorded thing and Miss California who i guess is going to become a PR woman or something which is most of these women's track listen to what she says with her little voiceover you have to listen carefully because it's kind of drowned out by the music we just listened to this two more semi finalists to call and one them Miss California! So something that we could do to make the Miss America program a little bit more edgy would be picking the right Miss America to know how to work with media and play off of stories that are hot topics. Someone who is media savvy and knows how to manipulate the media. Manipulate the media? Did she actually say that?! Yeah! You're hired, you are so hired Now could she...could we call her...can we give her a different name? Can she dye her hair blonde can we put it on Russia Today

06:21 The square jaw might work. There were definitely a couple of Russia Today women on the competition. Good, manipulate the media with your legs! I love it she's good she smart awesome did you win? She got to manipulate the media meme in there but that's part of the reason why she got kicked off because this is shh shhh don't say it just do it. Don't say it just do it. Just manipulate. The first rule about media manipulation So the woman who won was Miss Wisconsin, you know. Really? I think Green Bay won the Super Bowl last year so there's...I don't know what the connection is or Wisconsin had to be the governor There's some political thing She was the dumbest of the five that were at the end with the questions

07:02 You're not this is the miss Wisconsin tell you listen to her and by the way at the very end They give it away that she's gonna win which I thought was like wait a minute. I only heard it By the way on the audio, I didn't hear when I was watching I missed it Sorry, let me just say let me just set up a little more She she has asked a question and I swear to God of talk about not answering the question. She seeks the clear winner here go The first finalist to receive a question and have a chance to be Miss America is... Miss Wisconsin, Laura Kepler! Alright let's find out which judge will be asking your question. It is... Lara Spencer

07:47 The divide between Democrats and Republicans seems to be getting wider and nastier. Do you think Miss America should be free to declare her political affiliation? Miss America represents everyone, so I think a message to the political candidates is that they represent everyone as well. And in these economic times we need to look forward to what America needs, and I think Miss America needs to represent all. Thank You Miss Wisconsin! Now you can go change for the crowning ceremony which is coming up next. Oh, you can go change for the crowning ceremony? Yeah. Wow what an idiot! Excuse me I'm sorry I said that. What an idiot! Meanwhile she says in these economics... She doesn't answer because she just blathers. Wait a minute was this on ABC?

08:37 I believe it may have been. Of course, alright gotcha! Yeah so this is even worse So the one that should've won was Miss New York She was pretty... That's what Mickey said she said she was rooting for Miss New York Well she was the prettiest Not the prettiest but she was one of the top pretty girls and she had a nice figure She had great personality she has a little bit of fast talker She looked a little short to me Miss Oklahoma was the shorty and she also could have won. She was like some people... Just move on, you're killing me! They are not going to pick a short woman You're killing me let's get out of here So Miss New York actually answers.. this is the only time in history I've ever seen one these women answer one of these questions somewhat intelligently

09:18 concisely and that so she did I said she's done they do not need some smart-ass woman who maybe is sharp and could tell him to screw themselves that she was too on the ball. The fourth of five questions will be for Miss New York, Caitlin Monti! Congratulations Caitlin. Okay the judge that will be asking your question Terry Polo The anti-Wall Street movement became a national story in 2011 with thousands of Americans protesting that 1% of the population controls 99% of the wealth. Do the protesters have a point? And what should be done?

10:03 I think what the Occupy Wall Street movement did was bring discourse into the political campaigns going on now and it has changed how things are gonna go. But the thing about Occupy Wall Street is if they're gonna come up and complain about a problem, they have to come up with some solutions too! You can't just say that there's a problem without trying to troubleshoot so it's up to them to push to try to come up with some solutions to go with it but they had every right to do that Thank you Miss New York It would've been better she went Mike check That woulda been great And the whole audience Mike Check Now that would have been funny. There was one woman who had a sense of humor but nobody else seemed to now the final thing I have left last by the way her answer was

10:44 Took her out people have to understand it's very important that the this is actually the best show to watch To show how manipulated the American public is if people are wondering why they do Why are you doing these on your show? Are you talking about why we listen to this crap. This is very important The voice of the people who do not like this segment yes exactly It's exactly it all right finish once a year give us a break bring us home, baby Okay So here's the last one This is a douchebag judge He is, they just did the bathing suit competition with these women that are just got then all he did was walk up and down these really outrageous figures. And better than years past and they asked this guy what he's looking for? This simple question What are you looking for when you look at a woman who would walking up and down in a bathing suit? Mark I couldn't help but notice how intense you were during that competition

11:38 Aside from a future wife, what are you looking for in the swimsuit category? I think for me i'm just looking for an all-rounder. Someone who's relatable fun confident knows what's going on with current events and is also beautiful kind and has a good heart that's what im looking at. I'm glad I don't have your job tonight. Good luck! Right four eight flathead big ears come on what she talking about he says he's looking for somebody who knows about current affairs and he's watching him go like this one what is he talking about? What a dick He's like, he's watching. Why? What are you looking for in a bathing suit? I'm looking for a woman who is good at current affairs. This is so stupid! It is so degrading it really is so incredibly low and we're upset about Marines pissing on Taliban Are you kidding me this insulted every single woman on the planet

12:28 Well, I think most of them like Mickey got a kick out of it because it's so stupid. I will play I've got one more thing which was an ad that played during this thing and This is a little dis changes the subject Because this to me I just caught this meme And I'm thinking after the Super Bowl after every Super Bowl they take the quarterback and he says what are you doing? Disneyland right I'm going to Disneyland or I'm going to Disney World if it was placed in Florida. Right, right So some... Here's what I envision Some douchebag marketing guy got into the company Disney parks are absolutely the place to create lasting memories This is my first time at Disney and i'm never gonna forget this moment My favorite thing to do is walk around! I just love seeing everything I absolutely loved meeting the princesses And having fun on the rides! I think we're all taking home precious memories

13:20 Oh my goodness, I don't think there's any other way to describe Disney than magical. I hope I can come back to Disney as soon as possible with my entire family! Yeah, it's ABC. No no I'm just saying but when did they change it from Disneyland to Disney? Okay good point ah yes It's branding. It's a branding exercise yeah, it's a total branding exercise that I think stinks Yeah, I don't want what Disney. I'm going to Disney Oh well you're going to the what are you gonna work for him on the movie set You got your working for ABC now What do you mean you've going to Disney But this is a douchebag marketing guy. Yeah, yeah game is how do you eat it? How to meet and go in there the girl says she's going to Disneyland What does somebody in Florida gonna think yeah they're pissed off we mean we need a broadening rose the different name It's a different brand All right so John while you were doing all the hard work Yep I was just goofing off reading legislation

14:20 I figured... You love reading legislation. I do, it's crazy! It's..I think i'm good at it Well you're getting better So you gave me some homework because we looked at the Stop Online Piracy Act We look at the Protection of Intellectual Property Act Which are essentially identical, bar it that SOPA has a whole bunch of extra stuff in there about fake military parts and fake drugs and badges. Badges with brands on it But they both of them kind of want to mess around with DNS

15:01 And so you're thinking, which I think was a pretty good lead. Was that maybe this was all to create a smoke screen for open? Which is the Darrell Issa bill. Yes it's the online protection and enforcement digital trade act So I pulled that up now which i don't think has actually been submitted It appears to only be in draft form So I looked at that and and i'm going through it. And like you know this is actually not too bad, again a lot of the same language all and it all refers to Lanham Act stuff and very very typical but it doesn't have the punitive measures in there so there's nothing about DNS jiggling

15:48 There is the same provisions about stopping, and it's all basically about domain names that are registered outside of the United States. That's what all of this is really about so-called right? But of course if you have a bitly URL or .LY your registered in Libya so it would pertain to you as well. And in the case of Open They're essentially saying, well we need to have a very traditional course. If there's a dispute you have what is called I think a 377 judge or maybe 337 judge which is a very traditional copyright or trademark process

16:35 If they will go and stop you know if you're if you're selling goods to Americans And they can stop PayPal for instance from with a cease-and-desist order From processing payments and advertising can also be stopped but nothing about DNS, and actually I kind of liked open because It has a provision in there where you have to deposit a bond if you're gonna. Go after someone so you can't have frivolous You know, just like people walking around saying hey get him off. So you have to it doesn't say how high the bond has to be but at least it's a good start and I'm like well this This doesn't make any sense How can our government actually doing something right? This kid this can't be good so as I'm digging deeper I'm like somewhere we're missing something We're missing something Right and there's gonna be so blatantly clear that were just idiots for not seeing it That's the way it would work Yeah

17:26 So the first clue came to me from, let's see... The Obama administration released that WeThePeople petition thing. You know where you can go online and say hey how about making it legal? Well of course everyone has gone online and said let's make marijuana legal and they come back with some bullcrap response So, on the 14th which was yesterday Obama administration responded to the We The People petitions on SOPA and online piracy. And this is an answer which comes from Anish Chopra who was our Chief Technology Officer in assistance of the President

18:11 Along with Howard Schmidt who was a special assistant to the president's on cybersecurity and he's the cyber security coordinator for national security staff and Victoria Espinel who is the intellectual property enforcement coordinator. So these are the people who have the president's ear so to speak, and I'm reading through this And I'll just read a little bit of it, because this is where I started to get my first clues. So you know blah blah blah, compact online piracy very important we must avoid creating new cybersecurity risks or disrupting the underlying architecture of the internet proposed laws must not tamper with the technical architecture of the internet through manipulation of the domain name system like well okay that's pretty good and then they actually write here let us be clear dash dash

19:01 Online piracy is a real problem that harms the American economy, threatens jobs. This is just not a matter for legislation we expect and encourage all private parties including both content creators and internet platform providers working together to adopt voluntary measures and best practices to reduce online piracy." So I'm like okay so it looks like they're way against the DNS thing and I've been looking into DNS extensively You know, have you ever heard of OpenNIC? Have you ever heard of those guys? Yeah. They've been around for a while. It's very cool! There was also one before them called AlterNIC Right and it is very cool because it's just the perception that we have to go through these root domain name servers if we all said hey tomorrow will do a different service that isn't run by and here comes ICANN the Internet Corporation for a same... Internet Corporation Authority assigned names I believe

19:58 you know, then we could just change to something else. But of course that would take an effort for the entire world to change their DNS servers in there. You'd have to do a lookup on this other server? Well no... No, right! Or you could do a double-look up that's not a big deal Right but I mean you just need to change one piece of configuration but the world is not set up that way anymore Yes never going to happen So I'm looking around and like We're missing something, we're missing something, we're missing something And then all of sudden Bada bing At this very moment, just announced... ICANN is releasing... ummm

20:37 new capability for new generic top-level domains so what this means that is that in addition to dot com net org and then we have You know the dot CC, and then we'd be the international domain names And info and mobi and all of this stuff now any anybody can essentially register a generic top level domain so we could have no agenda or And that is so I my website would be Adam dot no agenda and your website will be John dot. No agenda, and we could register domain names and sell them or do whatever you want if

21:18 We are in possession of $185,000. Right because that's been proposed last year and it is going to be begin implementation in the next few weeks right so well as now it's now open so when April they start but is now open so I go to them by the way its only opened for suggestion You gotta give them $185,000 and then if they say you know... That's just the vetting process. Oh yeah! Yeah then you're out at a hundred eighty five thousand dollars there is no return of your money Correct. You can get financial aid though and it only costs forty-five thousand which is a deal It's a steal with this financial aid package they put together So I'm like huh okay maybe we are looking in the wrong place Maybe over here looking all this stuff while something else is happening

22:02 And so I'm looking into ICANN a little bit and, and I'm looking through the new rule book. Did you know by the way that ICANN which they say is not for profit but please is run by a guy named Rod Beckstrom? Do you know this guy Rod Beckstrom okay well he previously said... I can't say that for sure I may have met him but I don't often talk to him. Well you know he's one of these guys He would have run a dot-com company in the bubble. That's what he looks like, but he served previously as the director of the National Cyber Security Center So this guy is a shill you know this is an office within the Department of Homeland Security so now I'm like okay You have my interest and he appeared on PBS

22:56 In a long piece, 10 minutes actually, I just clipped a little bit which is what gave me the clue as to what we've been missing. Along with a guy from the Coalition for Responsible Internet Domain Oversight which is some bull crap advertising organization because of course Another smoke screen is being thrown up as oh, this is really bad because now I'll have all these cyber squatters will come in and register dot Nike yeah for a hundred eighty five thousand dollars. I'm gonna come in and registered Nike and trying cybersquat And so that's bullcrap But something comes up in the conversation, and it's not Beckstrom but it's the other guy who says something. And when I heard that I went okay, I've got it.

23:52 It is certainly something that raises the cost and in fact top-level domain sellers have said if you want a top level domain, then in fact you might need up to $800,000 to a million dollars at minimum. for all of the various costs that would be involved. And that would have nothing to do with the situation where you'd have an auction, where people are fighting over a name which can go into the multi-millions of dollars but there is a group called Credo, The Coalition for Responsible Internet Domain oversight, which represents 161 associations groups and companies that are opposing this rollout as premature who all believe that this is going to create major pressures on companies to do defensive registration or dramatically increase the amount of

24:42 tracking that they will have to do of the internet and cost them millions of dollars in that regard. And they have strongly said it would be premature to roll this out at this time, and another point is very significant as there are substantial holes in the system uh... that have been pointed out by the federal trade commission are by other of police organizations around the world by the internet uh... agency uh... organizations like kind of holes do you mean just so we know very very serious situations where if u start one of the protections has been built into this system or alleged protections has been built into a system is something called as thicker who is

25:20 approach which would give you more information supposedly about who actually owns an IP address, an internet address. Okay this is the thicker Whois system have you heard of this term John? Never so currently you can go in and you can register a domain name, and you can do it in several ways You can basically say my name is Dan dildo And my number is five five five five five five five five five and It'll register that way or if you want. You can register for An additional fee and that'll be through a privacy system But it's you can still put dan dildo in there

25:56 The thicker Whois system will be a requirement of all these new generic top-level domain systems. And here it is, ICANN will have the RAA this is the Registration Authentication Authority to incorporate for the first time registrar commitments to verify Whois data So instead of you just going in and registering a domain and just putting down whatever information, it could be PayPal or whoever you want to pay for it. You will have to verify yourself and all your information will have to be correct and it will be checked at multiple levels so the registrars will be checked by ICANN to verify that you are who you say you are. I went back and saw

26:46 on the cybersecurity document that the Obama administration put out under domain name, news and opinion. In this future individuals and businesses can quickly an easily obtain the tools necessary to set up their own presence online. Domain names and addresses are available secure and properly maintained without onerous licenses or unreasonable disclosures of personal information So this whole SOPA, PIPA open thing is a smoke screen because what is happening is you will now be required by law to verify when you register domain name including international domain names. What's going to happen is the dot com and the .NET will be deprecated and they will either have to comply with thicker whois system

27:38 or they'll have to go away so that everyone's going to comply. So you no longer... Is this post facto? Does everyone who currently has a domain name have to comply within the period of time for the... Not yet, not yet. I think this is step one is every new domain that you register under and there will be a lot of cool ones. You know, you'll have all kinds of new opportunities to register. You'll have to do it now So it is a complete overhaul of the registration system. This is basically an identification, this is a national ID card system incorporated into a law that looks like something about IP when its really about getting people to finally cough up who they really are? Correct and no one's looking at this! Well I've never even thought about something... That's crazy talk

28:31 And here, registrars will be obliged to vet registrants who is details for accuracy. ICANN will be obliged to vet registrar's proxy privacy services would continue but police will have a single global agreement that I can would sign with registries and registrars modeling on the existing RAA contract such an agreement make it easier for police to quickly have sites taken down based on breaches in the terms and conditions so that's how its gonna work It's not about messing up the DNS, that was just a red herring. This is about you having to register and prove who you are otherwise you can't get a domain name If if you get a subdomain of something else tough crap Those guys will take down the whole site based upon who they know Is on the other end of that server this is all they ever wanted And ICANN is playing right into it and frankly is disgusting Who died and made the American government boss?

29:27 Well that happened a while back. Yeah, well I'm just saying so all of this is it's moot and no one...I've looked all over I've been trying to find news articles no one is talking about the thick who-is system except in the actual documents of ICANN where they've had studies and it's oh well everyone agree as a good idea we should just make it so you have to authenticate. And yeah sounds fine So that's what it is. On top of that, I will say is pretty obvious that when you have one of the biggest sites like Reddit where typically people talk about The National Defense Authorization Act droning American civilians about all the bull crap and lies that go on when you shut down that site to distract it so people can watch some stupid hearing which is moot because it's all happening in the background somewhere else

30:19 pretty obvious why that's taking place just to distract everyone so you don't talk about the real issues. Well, if I were you and you or me with this you would say to me duh! So we can stop... You should write a column about it John Because yeah, I Yeah if you get me just give me that subsection and then I can uh yeah it's obvious what's going on That's pretty good. I like it and just look for the thick I knew he'd find something And I did just funny the way you operate because I can just see that You couldn't find anything right away so he started scrammed you started flailing like you know someone yellow

31:05 I can't believe it. I have to show up tomorrow with something worthwhile, this is no good! I got nothing and then i still wonder why I do it. There could be actually even more in there but that's probably the key. But they've been talking about trying you know there has been a complaint and law enforcement again you know they just do anything they can so they don't have to do any work heaven forbid they'd have to do some research and you know there's a lot of paperwork involved. You got to go to a judge, get somebody to crack open one of these private deals where put their domain up. No, no it'll be real easy hey it's authenticated you're gonna have to like show some government ID there is all these different rules for verification of who you are and this protocols right there's all these RFCs and that was a little... It gets into a lot of technical detail but it's very similar to the Domain Lock System which is the extensions uh to the registrar process yeah I can point out something else that's always a possibility happening too

32:07 Since you brought this up, and I do have a very long clip about this which is actually three clips in one Discussing the fact that we have essentially a Jim Crow system where we're Ron Paul talks about this constantly that black people have been incarcerated for minor drug offenses There's a book out to discuss some of the privileges that are taken away from people. I would They also believe that felons will not be allowed to own a domain name. doesn't want to move to the thick who is system right away because you know they then there was money well they'd have to go back and then They want to do it properly. They want to charge everybody So but they have to go back and basically everyone that has to verify And authenticate for the domain names you have can you imagine we have like 900 pointing to our website? We're gonna lose a lot of them people be like I don't think I won't ever know who I am so those are just dropped by The wayside, so they don't wanna

33:10 do that until they have a simple slick way for people to basically go along with the system. So first it'll be the generic level top domain names, then they're going to force VeriSign to do it or all those domain names will be deprecated and we'll get some kind of lower priority you watch is very obvious system. Yeah, It's all part of the same old, Yeah, by the way, the question is a marching ahead question in the chat room. Yes this will apply to international domain names as well yes IDNs as they're called I read up on this you can tell ding-ding-ding yeah more cheerful news here from the no agenda show we do have some executive producers to thank only a few i feel like what i saw the spreadsheet this morning like really that was up until 1 30 doing holiday tomorrow thanks a lot oh is that it

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37:13 And that is an exclusive ladies and gentlemen, that open act deconstruction you will not hear anywhere else. No you're not going to hear it until all of a sudden you try to register poop dot com and be like would you please verify who are we? We need the poop listies do... Enter your government document ID number what's your passport number You watch its gonna happen Yeah passport, social security number for sure I registered Adam.Geek on OpenNIC, thought that was kind of cool. But I've been messing around with DNS... We have our own NoAgenda DNS server! Anyway, I digress. RonPaulSavesTheWorld.com is now forwarding to noagendashow.com That's great although i think we should probably have that forward to ronpaul2012.com

38:03 Yeah, let's read that. I think we should. By the way did you see that blog post on The Daily Paul? Oh the one that talked about you? It talked about me! Shall i read you the headline? Talked about me...the headline Adam Curry is a horrible person for ever suggesting Doug Weed was anything other than awesome And the funny thing is, all publicity's good publicity. I like that headline! Yeah but you're not mentioned anywhere in the article and you're the one that was actually saying he could be a shill and like what am i? I'm like the heat deflector?! That is so unfair! That is so unfair! By the way that guy shows up in 2008 during the Ron Paul campaign back then too So he's probably been around for awhile

38:54 Yeah, but it hurt me. You know what hurt me the most? You lapped it up! No here's what I don't like so you know first of all I only asked a question only out of the goodness of my heart just like I hope this guy is okay and he's not in there to muck it up which I think is a very fair question yeah and the very things we defend Ron Paul on like the media calling him a kook and old and a codger and wacky All these Ron Paul people are calling me conspiracy nut, kook, wacky washed up VJ. Like that hurts man. I didn't see that one. Washed up MTV VJ who gives a crap about him and it hurts! I'll be honest. Well i would find it offensive... It's very offensive

39:37 Anyway, I did put a link to the show. Yeah that's good so welcome out We have a couple new listeners that are on they came in they listened to the show like what is this crap about? The America Miss America pageant What does this crap show no wonder you lost of VJ talking about talking and by the way it'll be Adam Curry was talking about miss America pageant Anyway, I got two emails from people who I respect highly on the inside. And, I'm not allowed to tell you who they are because it would be highly inappropriate the information they sent me but extrapolating from this Doug Weed is a good guy but more importantly and this is what I was kind of hoping he has very deep ties to a lot of big religious money so I'm happy

40:33 I don't care how Ron Paul gets the money as long as he gets lots of it because you need it. It's crazy, just to get the signatures for South Carolina and cost like $100,000 if you don't have a grassroots campaign obviously but just...it's expensive to become president no wonder Obama needs a billion so I'm happy I'm happy Doug Wheat is in I was always on the watch for anybody and everything yeah that's not a bad thing besides that we Got an email this morning, and I've actually put these pictures in the show notes at three seven four dot na show notes calm Not really a no agenda PR initiative, but it's so cool. It's from He doesn't want me to mention his name for some obvious reasons because he will go to jail But these are night one of the guy we knighted on the spot in Hoboken New Jersey at the At the no agenda the Hot Pockets tour meetup

41:28 Okay. Says Adam and John, as a result of your continuous reportage on domestic drone activity in the overwhelming ignorance of the general public... The general public possesses regarding drones I felt obligated as an artist And the one who propagates memes set forth by the No Agenda Roundtable to try and help raise awareness on this subject and what better way than To use the instrument of fear just as our evil overlords do to enslave us? I fabricated real street signs that pose as official NYPD warnings of the impending drone surveillance and imminent use of force." Have you seen these signs? Did you see the pictures? I got it. So, I got these CC but I didn't... but the pictures weren't attached so he had to send them to me Oh my god! Okay, well they're in the show notes i'll just read it. They're actual metal signs and he's posted them on- Which we can all have made by the way In fact there is one of these sign makers down the street from me

42:23 So he has this, so there's one it's underneath a no parking anytime sign and it says attention authorized drone strike zone 8am to 8pm including Sunday. And see here is another one yeah that was very funny local statutes enforced by drones Let's see what the next one here. These are great drone activity and progress and it all has NYPD on it which is hilarious authorized drone strike zone and then he has but he's very smart because he has the sign and that on a wall behind It you'll have like a beautiful

43:01 Statement from you know from either the Constitution or one of our founding fathers So you see in the foreground authorized drone strike zone and then in the background? constitution of government once changed from freedom can never be restored liberty once lost is lost forever and It's it's art. It's like Banksy style. It's really really stuff really really good In terms of conceptual, conceptual performance art. Really really good and I'm very proud of what... I like it! What was the drone? What was the last one you mentioned? The drone surveillance area or something what was it? I just closed a file. It's okay never mind I'll look at them later but then I think this is

43:43 These would be worth the... I wouldn't mind having a couple of those signs and putting them somewhere. Oh, absolutely! They're beautiful. I'm just trying to think what was the last one I mentioned? The drone strike zone or authorized drones at strike zone 8am-8pm including Sunday? No it was the last one that was the first one. Let me see... hold on let me bring it up here. Drone activity in progress? Yeah No local statutes enforced by drone. I think that's my like that one too yeah, actually I like them all but the statues I'm proud you know they and on that love That's that's better than donations really they have that happen not really you know hey You and I'll be on the street time with it was with a sign

44:33 But at least people will be waking up, so I think that's cool. Not until the drones nail us. Exactly Hey everybody else you can go out and do something else if you can't draw a street sign you can propagate the formula Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth World Order You got the T-shirt? Shut Up Slave Oh there's so much going on...I'm glad y'all showed up for todays show cause we gotta zinger. We've gotta real zinger

45:14 So we did catch a meme that somebody suggested, that we look at. Got a mail in the morning recorded the show Bones on Fox What is this show? I've not seen this show Is it a doctor's show Yeah but its different than... This about a woman who is the pathologist you know like coroner type person But she has Asperger's And so she kind of like nutty She well she's very focused and she's got no personality basically. And she has no sex? No, she is pregnant as a matter of fact I'm sure. But anyway...she is genius! Shes the smartest person in the room. Most Aspergers are geniuses of course Many Bill Gates is one So they decided to drop a few bombshells with just total bull crap

46:12 But play, I got two clips from this and i think that's why they wanted us to the guy says you gotta get this shows you got no agenda written all over it. So play the hacktivist thing and you get a feeling for what's going on first of all the hacktivist guy is evil villain you have to remember that I am evil, I am anonymous. Sweet Seer is one of our better profilers and he seems to think that it's possible That dude from the Washington Standard said you'd think so Ezra Crane Yeah! He covered my trial I'll tell ya the same thing i told him when he called...I'm not a criminal I'm a hacktivist. A hacktivist that took out DoD's complete network and left the US military defenseless for, what was it? Three-and-a-half hours? The company that built that network got the contract because of campaign contributions. I exposed the corruption! I am a patriot. Soldiers could have died. That is exactly why i did it

47:05 Wow, by the way this falls in nicely with CNN's profile on Anonymous. I don't know if you saw that? No! Yeah...I recorded it and it was so dumb but they keep talking about anons If you're a member of anonymous then your an anon Which is the new meme. This comes right back to the ICANN thing, you won't be able to be a non anymore You watch! Yeah no this whole thing is coming-this is a bunch of propaganda they're feeding the public and they're using popular media to do it which is why-and Bones is a very popular show And so people are watching this who oh this horrible person The guy gets away with it by the way in his show and he also has got a bracelet He's killing people left and right but he's got an ankle bracelet on They don't know how he's getting away with it

47:51 But the one that was the real eye roller, was the one is fractals on a bone. I'm gonna set it up by explaining what's actually going to be told here and you can just hear it for yourself but I'm gonna explain it The guy they're in the offices and all of us and all the computers blow up And he says there was a virus attack! A horrible virus! Was actual smoke coming out like sparks? Yeah yeah one gave go fire! No no really?! Yes and they had this spray with them with a CO2 canister Now, so the question... So they ask each other oh what could have caused this horrible virus to infect our computers? We have not downloaded. Did you download anything? No I haven't downloaded anything Have you put a disk in? No we haven't done anything but these things are secure and then the guy looks at a bone or the woman looks at that bone that they scanned in to determine who was the person it belonged too It had a QR code

48:48 And she looks at the bone and discovers how the virus got into the system. Play it! Oh my god... What? It's some kind of fractal pattern Whoever did this wrote malware on bone that took down a million bucks worth of computers Who would know how to do that? A computer genius who wants us to know he doesn't need a computer Palant. But he has an ankle model I'm telling you this guy is a genius Fractal I'm like what? That was right, it's a QR code basically A QR code of fractal crave Yeah whatever it was It was like

49:42 That's amazing is the public so or do they think the public is I guess they do yes, so stupid John you you just want be on Stupid this is the dumbest thing. I have ever seen on a TV show trying to pull this I mean It's not even it's beyond science fiction So idiotic. Well, let's see how the Miss America here miss America pageant ratings increase 47% for ABC telecast Yeah, well this is this is it my friend? You know we're done people don't understand. Let me see tell me how many million people watch this 47 percent increase

50:24 But in the Battle of the Beauty Contest Miss America also decked Donald Trump's miss USA pageant last year by more than a million viewers First half hour Miss America was in third place with 5.25 million viewers and it grew to end the night with almost 8 million viewers We had a growing audience yeah, yeah Well this just goes to show yes Yes The American public is so stupid and I just didn't have time because I was doing all that I can stuff To pull clips from the CNN thing but had it running in the background It's just like

51:00 You know, the whole... The meme now is the Anons. If you do something bad as a politician or cop or judge then anonymous will expose your details and ruin your cyber life That's that's the meme Well they ruin your credit rate Yeah everything yeah they're ruining all that stuff They are nones anones You can't be in anon man because ICANN will force you to authenticate Well, okay. Well that's just leading right to what I've always said and have said it for years and will keep saying it there is going to be a point where you're gonna need a license to do website well yeah you will and then we'll be uh... you need your driver we actually have the blogger podcastlicense dot com so will be able to give you that and i'm sure it will be deemed completely official this would be the way to grandfather in a bunch of our people good luck with that

51:54 It's possible. Yeah, it's possible sure well yeah the only thing for us to do really would be to get a to get a dot in a generic top-level domain and then you know have first of all someone would have to sponsor us like a million bucks to do it and then basically we'd lie about all the authentication stuff we'd have to fabricate that Doesn't sound like a good plan now that I just said it actually No, not at all. So speaking of techno experts Very interesting conversation on C-SPAN and this included Ian Schuller by the way There is a dot na oh really Namibia? Oh we maybe should do a deal with Namibia Hey, Namibia Let's have a meeting

52:47 We hate those Nigeria guys, we keep getting email from them. Now we want to talk to you because you don't have any princesses. Ian Schuller works at the State Department he is the guy in charge of the internet in a suitcase Oh, the Internet in a Suitcase. I love that name! Well he was asked and he spilled the beans Now remember this is very expensive program this Internet in a suitcase Remember we reviewed the documents and I think there was 30 million dollars set aside for the Internet in a suitcase project And when you hear internet in a suitcase, what do you envision John? What does it sound like it is to you. Well when I first heard it I was thinking that maybe there was some sort of kit that had satellite feed and could get on the internet but more recently I'm led to believe that its entire internet jammed onto some mega terabytes worth whatever you can get into a suitcase

53:46 Well, this is a rather long clip but I think it's well worth listening to because remember we have our Secretary of State coming out and saying, you know, Lucifer Clinton. Oh! We've got the internet in the suitcase! We're so cool! We're helping everybody! Like guys smuggling suitcases with internet in them and stuff? Sounds great right sounds like we really like America F yeah Here's Ian explaining how it came to be and what it is. Sasha, you want to just elaborate a little on how this thing works that helps people get around any government intervention? Sure let me first start by cautioning you about starting memes. And what's interesting is the actual true history of the internet in a suitcase was that

54:34 when Jim Glantz, who did a really great job on this article contacted us and said so what is it that you're doing? We explained well we're doing all this programming we are developing the software can run on a whole bunch of different devices and turn them into blah blah blah just ended up not really capturing anyone's attention. He was like So what is the thing that comes out of it? Well its sort of distributed infrastructure to run on any device And he was like so... ...We have a photographer coming tomorrow What is he going to photograph? That's a good question And so literally we went out and bought a suitcase, and took... A bunch of equipment that we had around the office. That is sort of the examples of what this technology can run on, and put it into a suitcase. Can you believe this crap? What?!

55:21 Yeah, it's just basically a couple of routers and maybe some code. Oh it's even better than that I just wanted to stop to pause here for a second Just to say really you you you fleeced the press by throwing some crap into a suitcase You bought that day for the photographer So then you would hears our internet in the suitcase really? That's what you did you idiot That's insulting. This is clip of the day really hit the jingle I wasn't ready for that. I have so much more you never are you don't even know what the clip of the day is Now right now he's caught off guard by the clip, but it gets better well It's a clip of the day should

56:03 And the rest is history. So I view the internet in a suitcase... The rest is history! That's right, the rest is people- Lucifer stand there! We've got the very important Internet In A Suitcase project 30 million dollars Well okay Ian douchebag Shuler why don't you explain what's in your Internet In A Suitcase for real? It's actually visual aid gone out of control It was a meme. We're so awesome! It was like Goatsy, only better!" But the idea behind what we're developing which is actually the important component here is that you can use the technologies, the hardware that are on the ground today in these locations. You don't actually need to paradrop in a giant internet in a suitcase. No. You can transform people's available cell phones

56:54 laptops and computers, wireless routers that you might pick up here in the states. Now listen very closely particularly sysadmins network administrators you're going to laugh when you hear what they are actually doing Best Buy or what have you into your telecommunications infrastructure and if you use software like the type we are creating You don't need a central cell tower, you don't even need internet uplink to communicate locally And you can imagine, if you can set up a system whereby there is no center. There's no point of surveillance or control... ...there is no point to shut down! There are just bunches of different equipment that people turn on and off... ...that create this network connectivity for sharing information,... ...for distributing the phone pictures before your phone actually gets confiscated.

57:46 that becomes a very powerful tool. Now, if you have an uplink of any sort – satellite phone, dial-up modem etc., this will spread that connectivity throughout that network but if you don't have internet uplink, you still maintain local connectivity and so we can think about this as what's the first thing anyone who has office with bunch computers do? they network all of those computers together and start sharing files, printers other services and applications. What we're doing is saying how do we take that same powerful tool and put it into the hands of anyone that wants to set up a network? So the technology's actually... The components of it exist today And what were really focusing on is how do we make them user-friendly and how do we integrate these best technologies from projects all around the globe

58:43 into a single package that can be transported, not in the gigantic suitcase but on your cell phone on a USB drive on a CD-ROM on your laptop or any other storage medium. So what this asswipe is saying... Was it the Vikundra behind this? Of course! They took 30 million dollars and gave it to companies to basically create something that we in 1994 called an intranet. Essentially, they just configured Ubuntu on a stick And thats your internet in a suitcase Really This is so unbelievable

59:23 It's just Ubuntu on a stick. That's what it sounds like or Ubuntu Live probably something one of the things about Ubuntu Live, yeah, probably Ubuntu Live which people don't know is the one that just self-booting without destroying the OS you have right? It boots from from uh from a thumb drive and then it has a and that turns your Wi-Fi into an access point. You've got a router big F and deal 30 million dollars really and then to lie about it make it sound all spiffy as internet in the suitcase I swear to God. I was under the impression that was the entire Internet downloaded into X number of terabytes because this doable, I mean Google has a copy of the Internet Yeah, first they have a million servers They have more than one copy on right but still it's like oh

1:00:05 It's just it's so insulting and then to laugh about ha ha ha what burn heads those media folk are You do bags for the day yeah, well you think that's good. Yeah, you're gonna top that oh yeah I'm gonna top it no. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna top it. I'm going to top it with the Reverend Manning Oh, okay. Well we all... Yeah yeah I was thinking of pulling this clip too but i figured if it's Reverend Manning you're gonna pull it. Mr Ron Paul you got to talk about it!

1:00:47 And the media can't slam you any harder than they're slamming you now. You not only beating witness protection program Willard Romney and John Huntsman and Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum but your beating the dunghead media! Your whooping all of their behinds Ron Paul Go ahead now get out there and whoop Mohamed what? Whoop Obama's behind whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping constitution holy and totally eligible. He's a criminal whoop him, whoop him and whoop him! I guarantee you'll be the next president of America hands down. You're whooping the Tea Party, you're whooping evangelicals, you're whooping the media... You got a strong crowd of supporters. Hey Ron Paul supporters, I want to take my hat off to you

1:01:45 This guy is genius! He's amazing. And I was thinking... Did you get the clip about Romney and Huntsman being black? No, I don't have that one. Oh nooo! Oh, I missed that one. Yeah we'll get the clip for the next show or maybe find it out now. We'll get it for the next show. He comes out with this theory That they're black? That Romney Willard No, no it's not. Romney is black? No it's not Santorum It's Gingrich and he bases on the theory that Gingrich his real name is Newton Leroy He says nobody by black people named their kids Leroy And his daddy never appeared. He's an orphan kid they don't know who his father really is Oh okay...he's a son of slave And he goes into this fact that he obviously black

1:02:38 No, instead of looking for that clip I spent my time doing this. I'm thinking GX2 can make a mix out of that somehow. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think gx2 game Programming I just gotta say I just got to have that I just gotta have that handy in case What

1:03:35 I love that guy. Oh, fantastic! That made my day. Yeah well wait till you get to the black thing Hey whatever makes it happen He only refers to Romney as Willard Romney Which is his first name. That just made my day, right there! No the guy's the best I mean we could you know yeah wish he would do more material They should put him on The Tonight Show with that. That'd be a Hello Liberty. Yeah I think he made the suggestion that he should have one of these talk shows not an idiot mush mouth Sharpton Well...yeah really

1:04:31 Really? No, I mean it's fine. He could never be on MSNBC or anything like that. You don't think?! No... no... Pack him in! He's fine where he is. He goes out- I was thinking by the way for opening up the door to the Currie Dvorak Consulting Company just for a little short observation. Oh yes sure. I'm sorry, the meeting will come to order. So they They were having these issues with Keith Olbermann already on Current. So he quit, but they gave him a piece of the company but he doesn't seem to want to be a manager He's a dick! He's got Twitter feed and is mean to everybody

1:05:15 And I was thinking what, you know they brought in a bunch of people because they want to compete with MSNBC. Yeah wow that's setting the bar high! Which is the dumbest thing in the world because if and Al Gore he wasn't such a dumb guy He would want to compete with Fox Because if you can split the Fox audience you bring up the liberal voices louder instead of splitting an already dying audience And killing two networks. And you can make a lot more money with those Fox advertisers. Yeah, absolutely. It's like let's set the bar really low Let's compete with MSNBC. The low-hanging fruit. What boneheads? No the fruit that hit the ground! Yeah really...the rotting fruit on the ground That's so stupid. Yeah. Well duh

1:06:03 Because no one ever hires us to do this stuff. Well, we'll get a job eventually. Eventually we'll have to get a job John. You have to work for a living! You do realize that don't you? And it really irks me when I see how we're just getting by and that James Cameron man... That guy is great. That guy is so awesome To promote Titanic 3D he sinks in the whole cruise ship It's coming out in April Titanic 3D. I like the connection! Haven't you already heard them say on television, so close to the 100th anniversary of Titanic? They keep saying that you didn't hear that?! No i have been avoiding all the titanic 3d promotions and i didn't even consider... You can't! I'll give it 10 points for considering the sinking of this idiotic cruise ship and killing a hundred people

1:07:02 And then arresting the... He doesn't give a crap. They arrested the captain and we haven't heard anything from him, right? They arrest him to keep them from talking! Yeah yeah I think there's a theory out there as to what happened but let's just listen to the news report about it Well tonight the rescue efforts or the recovery efforts which you call them have been stopped for the night There were divers out all day long looking under the area of the ship that is still under the water level uh... the a captain has been arrested he'd be investigated you said for manslaughter and abandoning ship which is huge this very very serious maritime offense he was off the ship before it safety of the his passengers had been provided prime minister grounds on which the authorities here in italy were able to arrest him or have him have him at

1:07:47 stopped officially investigated at work within the judicial system here tomorrow morning to divers will go back down under the water level start looking at their best of that area of the ship they were unable to take a look at uh... today um... all the passengers that are surviving have been moved off to the Italian mainland, into various cities. There are a lot of people in Rome and some in Savona which was another port of call for this particular cruise ship Those people don't have their passports or documents they'll have to be provided for They'll need clothing, they'll need some shelter. They obviously need to get their legal documents that they had to leave on the ship in order... Yeah blah blah blah so you're right they took the captain off to shut him up so no one could talk to him because this was not a ship run aground That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard

1:08:36 This was either a collision with the submarine, which I think is possible. Also, I'm not an air guy, I am not a sea guy but you see that the ship is listing to the port side but the damage on the starboard side if you get a gash or maybe there's more damage we don't see on the other side But that gash made the ships leak and start to sink Then wouldn't it list to the other side? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either. You got a marine engineer to know how these things sink. They get water inside and down they go But there was... And this is one of these crazy Russian reports but it came out immediately that There was a signature detected of a torpedo fired from a Kilo class submarine near Isola del Giglio

1:09:36 and that there were only two submarines in the area possessing Kilo-class torpedoes both belonging to the Islamic Republic of Iran Navy. That could be also a... It wouldn't surprise me man, it would not surprise me if we're already at war we just don't really know it Well, we're definitely an economic war. For sure! And well we're also you know blowing up scientists and stuff... There's a lot of back-and-forth here. I still think my theory about goading them is still in play but i have a clip from from the news hour, from the national treasure on Iran that I just thought was kind of interesting and worth deconstructing. And I think it falls into this conversation. Which one is it? Observations on the Iranian assassination. Ooh okay. The two previous meetings between the Europeans Americans and others in Iran have really not been productive So what is the thinking now then about the impact of these this covert campaign

1:10:38 on impact one way or another on the status of the sanctions are the effort of this and well it's it's been a bad timing if nothing else i mean uh... i personally very much against these kinds of targeted assassinations have nuclear officials um... but you have to wonder what why now and it's in it you're trying to get iran to the table pressure is always so precarious thing to to apply uh... it can backfire the sense in the United States at least was that it is going to get Iran to the table but you don't want a driver on into a corner where they may decide to do everything your trying to prevent namely build nuclear weapons. Right, yeah particularly CNN I have to say is doing so much to help this said to ratchet this up in particular Barbara Starr

1:11:33 You've seen her? No. She's the Pentagon reporter, she's on the Pentagon beat and she always shows up in her own little pentagon studio over there. She looks like Lurch only a female version of Lurch you've seen it with that with big thick horn-rimmed glasses and when you listen without the video because that is very distracting in her case when you listen to The rhetoric that she is spewing, she is literally being instructed to ratchet this up and make people very very afraid. Let's get straight to our Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr, she has got the details What do we know Barbara?

1:12:08 Wolf, at a time of heightened tensions the Pentagon still wants to say this is relatively routine but listen to what happened last Friday in the Strait of Hormuz and the Persian Gulf. To both US Navy warship and a U.S Coast Guard cutter The Navy Warship first up, USS New Orleans was going into the Persian Gulf. It was going through the Strait of Hormuz when three Iranian speedboats approached it at high speed and came within 500 yards, at high speed within range of this Navy warship. The Navy warship signaled the Iranians to back off

1:12:47 They ignored all signals that is in opposition to standard maritime procedures. Eventually we're told they did break away another incident the same day a US Coast Guard cutter called... Hey by the way what is a coast guard cutter doing in the straits of Hormuz? And that's the Department of Homeland Security, that's not in the Defense Department anymore. The Coast Guard is no longer within the purview of the Defense Department so Homeland Security took them over as you recall? Well I consulted... So what are they doing there? Well I consulted the Book of Knowledge. The Coast Guard operates on the Department of Homeland Security during peacetime and can be transferred to the Department of Navy by the President at any time or by Congress during time of war

1:13:36 Funny I don't think I've seen that transfer take place Unless it was in the National Defense Authorization Act and we missed it which is possible. Well, this is possible The thing is a huge document So here's Barbara to finish it up ADAC was up in the Persian Gulf It was just about 75 miles east of Kuwait when it was harassed by high-speed Iranian boats small boats that came at it and Also at high speed, the personnel on board the Coast Guard Cutter said that they observed Iranians with AK-47s and they believe one of the machine guns. That's going to scare me when I'm on a Coast Guard Cutter! I thought they were 500 yards away?

1:14:15 he's got a they've got an AK-47 on a rubber boat. Have you ever been on the football field? Yeah, 300 yards can you see what's at the other end of the field with if someone is holding a gun or not I cant The bullet from the AK 47 would arch down into the water from that distance it's crazy is like we've got a couple of rubber boats with AK-47 and she's making us sound like were in war At front one of those Iranian speedboats was pointed right them. Eventually, a larger Iranian naval vessel intervened and those small speedboats backed off routine or not these types of encounters are extremely concerning to the US Navy you know the question really is well how close do you let an Iranian speedboat get to you before you have to do something about it? I mean really that is did the Pentagon like put a wire in her brain and tell her what to say this is disgusting

1:15:08 And then you've got... Did she, by the way get to the part where she asks about why a Coast Guard cutter is there in the first place. Just cut right to that! What do you mean? It's not in there obviously. She doesn't ask that question because she's a reporter. Wait a minute are you telling me that the most obvious question would you asked right at the beginning That's not a great question Huh, I would think that she would ask that question so they could be explained by these experts on CNN Well have we actually looked up and let's see. Let's see president transfers Coast Guard to Navy let's say maybe we missed it Maybe something happened here the way business news is it could be in the front page or some newspaper? Uh-uh don't see it. I don't see it. I don't see it

1:16:03 No. Upon the declaration of war or when the president directs the Coast Guard can be transferred? Nope, I haven't seen it so i don't think we've had a declaration of war So I think that's in complete violation but doesn't matter because we got that A-hole Panetta saying this Clearly there are those areas for us are red lines Red line! Number one We cannot allow them to develop nuclear weapons That is a red line And number two We cannot tolerate Iran blocking the Straits of Hormuz and that's a red line Looks like we're trying to block the streets. They're trying to defend it We've got the Coast Guard in there, what do you think? Oh I hate us So why don't we blow up one of our ships Yeah like a false flag you mean? False flag yeah like so let's blow off a ship You'll remember the main

1:17:05 and drop the ship right, blow it up at some point where so as it's sinking its trying to get away because of their, sinks right there in the middle of those straits and clogs up the whole place. Hold on a second John I think we have to go to our Pentagon correspondent for a moment here John we have exclusive footage here what's going on in the Straights of Hormuz Battleship! Battleship! B4 hit J1 ha you missed J10 Oh, you sunk my battleship! Battleship. A game of strategy from Milton Bradley You sunk my battleship! And a bunch of a-holes That's funny Well that was a good catch

1:17:52 It's not the clip of the day, but it's damn good. Yeah, but it's uh there you go now Don't let you cut way to know that maybe you're just kidding me cut right to the part where she asked about the coast guard Let me just see if I can find it no sorry Can't find it. It's not on there. It's just not on their John. I'm sorry anyway I love it when we talk about possibilities and the chat room goes wild like, accidents do happen man. Yeah. And that's the voice they have by the way. That's exactly it! Not in my world they don't... If you know someone's got a question- I didn't say this is what happened but it is weird that they take the captain immediately and arrest him so you'll never hear from him again ever You know that right? You're never gonna hear from the guy he's gone It was just they arrested the guy who knew that

1:18:42 Yeah, no he's gonna be sent off to some mountain resort you know outside of the Italian... what is it? The Malfi Coast or whatever in Italy and just told to shut up. Italians are good at that they know how to shut up He's going on a little vacation Did you see the President show this week I don't watch The President Show knowing full well that you will be watching it! He brought props to Show & Tell this week He had an actual Show & Tell Here's where you respond. I'm li-I-Wow Hi there, as you can see i brought a few things with me for this week's video A padlock, pair of boots, a candle and a pair of socks.

1:19:28 You could only imagine. I thought a new format for the show, wait a minute have they hired some other consulting group besides the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group who knows... A candle? A pair of socks what?! A compass and a rubber knife he's going to save the economy with.. What is the rubber knife for? He doesn't have a rubber knife it's a candle let's listen do it again what he has but he's going to save the economy with these items As you can see, I brought a few things with me for this week's video. Okay? A padlock... Padlock write it down John you need these things! A padlock... pair of boots... pair of boots got that... a candle... a candle got plenty them just women in the house... pair of socks and the pair of socks i gotta whole drawer full of sock

1:20:17 I'm ready. You're not having a yard sale Oh, okay well it's not a yard sale oh damn I always buy socks at a- I buy my socks at a yard sale Hi there! Hi there! That ain't any used socks Yeah when he says that hi there you know what that sounds like? It sounds like uh... What was that Talking Heads song Hi there. No, no it was Peter Gabriel...was uh...Peter Gabriel...uhh...was it? Yeah onward I'm sorry I get distracted alright These products may not appear to have much in common but they're united by three proud words made in America Ah okay now starting to make sense They are manufactured by American workers and American factories and shipped to customers here and around the world

1:21:03 The companies that make these products are part of a hopeful trend. They're bringing jobs back from overseas." Didn't we do a thing about a year ago on how the Goldtoe folks, which I think is what he's holding here located in Tennessee or so they decided to move the factory to Mexico thanks to NAFTA? Well it was very interesting you say that because he was about to use a term which I had to look up obviously to understand what it meant Hold on. Well, this is insourcing. Insourcing? Yeah I've heard that before Okay now but there in the insourcing is actually a technical term and if you look it up in the book of knowledge insourcing may be done by onshoring which is insourcing delegates certain work to a different company which may come from a different country

1:21:56 I think that you know while you think oh it's like for American workers, i think he's talking about bringing in more slaves. Bringing you know because we we know that labor is going to be really cheap here in America so insourcing is not necessarily what he says it is but he's using an acute way so well give him the benefit of the doubt and then this make or break moment for the middle class and those working to get into the middle class That's exactly the kind of commitment to country that we need This week I invited executives from businesses that are insourcing jobs to a forum here at the White House. Did you get your invite, John?

1:22:32 A forum? Yes, a forum. Wow another meeting at the White House to solve the problem. These guys have more bullcrap meetings with people that have nothing to do with anything than any administration I've ever seen in my entire life. Oh it gets so much better than that! These are CEOs who take pride in hiring people here in America... By the way I couldn't find uh the notes on this meeting anywhere who the hell were invited these people take pride I'd love to know Not just because it's increasingly the right thing to do for their bottom line, but also because it is the right thing to do for their workers and our communities and our country. I told those CEOs what I'll tell any business leader. Ask yourself what you can do to bring more jobs back into a country that made your success possible. And I'll make sure that you've got a government that does everything in its power to help you succeed." Now pay attention cause here comes a tricky one

1:23:26 That's why in the next few weeks, I'll put forward new tax proposals that reward companies that choose to do the right thing by bringing jobs home and investing in America. And we'll eliminate tax breaks for companies who move jobs overseas It is also why on Friday, I called on Congress to help me make government work better for you Right now we have a 21st century economy but we've still got a goverment organized for 20th century I think he saying were driving clutch car Over the years, the needs of Americans have changed but our government has not. In fact it's gotten even more complexed and that has to change. Complex? Did he say complexed? That's what it sounds like. Back it up! I think he said complexed... Over the years, the needs of Americans have changed but our government has not in fact it's gotten even more complexed and He does! Complexted! I'm complexted by that! That has to change

1:24:19 That's why I asked Congress to reinstate the authority that past presidents have had to streamline and reform the executive branch. Ah, now i'm like wait a minute he asked for some authority and it is you know... More authority! Yeah but i'm still looking at the boots in there and the candle and the compass and the rubber knife so i'm distracted by that but it's very important what he says next This is the same sort of authority that every business owner has to make sure that his or her company keeps pace with the times. So he's apparently the owner of the American business, he's an owner of us He owns our ass It's the same authority that presidents had for over 50 years He's our ruler Now listen, listen, listen Until Ronald Reagan And let me be clear I will only... Listen now whenever someone says let me be clear what do we do John? We know to perk up because he's gonna lie to us Reagan

1:25:07 And let me be clear, I will only use this authority for reforms that result in more efficiency better service and a leaner government. Okay so i'm like wait a minute he's asking for some authority which is consolidation authority actually it's something called the consolidation authority act which you cannot find anywhere but it has been used before and he just lied because we know he says let me be clear I'm only going to use this tremendous power you give to me to clean some stuff up So I went a-looking of course and I did find one guy on C-SPAN who i think is just hired to propagate the lie. What specific authority does the president seek from Congress with regard to consolidating these branches of government? Well, White House has proposed that congress would enact what's called... what'd be called The Consolidation Authority Act which would fast track procedures for the executive branch

1:26:05 combine agencies and this may have been mentioned earlier on the program but it's centered around the business and trade functions at the Commerce Department, US Trade Representatives Office, Export-Import Bank, Overseas Private Investment Corporation, Small Business Administration. Immediately, with presidential authority he is elevating the small business administrator to cabinet level status which as government executive reported is a largely symbolic act because when new agency's created where Congress was required to enact law to give it cabinet status but

1:26:52 various presidents have had cabinet officials invited to attend the cabinet meeting as full equals and that will happen in case of karen mills who's a small business uh... administrator but that may change once this is congress enacted slaw that they're proposing and the first act white house would like would be the consolidation so there are some very important things here This is essentially, they call it the consolidation authority. But essentially Congress would be handing the president fast-track authority over anything he does as far as I understand it because you know...I'm just a washed up VJ hands the president fast track authority which limits Congress ability to hinder the president's agenda Because they only can do an upper down vote and

1:27:49 The president is promising that he will only use this to consolidate some stuff and shuffle some stuff which apparently will shed a thousand governmental jobs. But this type of authority goes back to the New Deal, and it lapsed in 1984 under Reagan but I believe that this is very very dangerous Because you even heard this guy say the first thing he will do I think he misspoke here is to consolidate this agency But what will he do after that with this fast-track authority? I think the consolidation Authority is just a made up name because you can't actually find The Consolidation Authority Act or anything named that but the whole idea of Congress telling giving up power to the president too fast track

1:28:44 His agenda, I think it's extremely dangerous. Well he has been doing this sort of thing for a couple years now and i don't see why this would make make it any more dangerous than he's already... Well, because Congress will not have the authority. But they don't have the... They have the... Congress is a rubber stamp for this guy but okay well maybe it's just a hedge maybe it's just important doesn't you could be it could be just another hammer another tool in the toolbox at the end of the day John it doesn't matter because we're gonna get a new website these changes will make it easier for small business owners to get the loans and support they need to sell their products around the world

1:29:22 For example, instead of forcing small business owners to navigate the six departments and agencies in the federal government that focus on business and trade we'll have one department. One place where entrepreneurs can go from the day they come up with an idea need a pass to the day they start building warehouse to the day their ready to ship their products overseas and in the meantime we're creating a new website Business USA that will serve as a one-stop shop with information for businesses small and large that want to start selling their stuff around the world Before you go on, have you noticing the real meme that underlies all this even though he's putting these six agencies into one because they're just who knows what they do. It's all about small businesses sending their products overseas shipping around the world most small businesses are not export companies No unless you're doing boots candles socks or padlocks

1:30:19 They're dry cleaners, they're grocery stores. Thank you. They are delivery services, they are flower shops Motorcycle repair guys There's a million things...they're not every small business What is it? He has been doing this since day one He is under the impression and promotes the idea that small businesses in the United States Are all a bunch of export companies They're all caterpillar Yeah! Like our show we're exporting The guy's an idiot Thank you But this whole thing, the government. It's like you go to the government and you go to the website they give you money They help ya out Don't do anything! No of course not The websites not even functional it says coming soon How long does is take them throw up a website? Go to wordpress dot com Look at businessusa.gov We're talking in cobalt Go to businessusa.gov It's hilarious Coming soon

1:31:15 It even has a coming soon banner. It's a platform that consolidates information and services from across the government to a single integrated network for American business owners and entrepreneurs. It's internet in a suitcase, if I ever saw one... You'll be able to find a wide range of relevant and timely federal government data services and programs whenever, wherever on your terms. We kick ass! Eric DeShill has an interesting interpretation. What's that? He says this is the day to consolidate this is that way because this is the easiest way to set up a federal VAT sales tax via the streamlined sales tax project Oh very good Very good Shill Very good And it makes nothing but sense Yeah

1:32:01 You know, let's just do this is a new way of taxing the public to get more money. The way one of our listeners says that the Coast Guard does guard oil rigs and overseas ports why we don't use contractors is another question but apparently they Coast Guard is overseas in the ports as if it's part of our coast I guess Oh, this is all bad. Yeah I'm getting- This show is the worst ever! No wonder people don't want to help us out! Put Manning back on! We're almost behind whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping whooping The Constitution! Wholly and totally eligible He's a criminal Whoop him right in! Whoop him and whoop him and whoop him I'm gonna show my salute by donating to NO AGENDA Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab

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1:44:47 I'm a high school math teacher, you know she's one of the with the black horn rimmed glasses and then she takes it off and lets her hair fall down shakes it on her shoulders. I'm a high school math teacher and this past Friday our district brought in a guy to talk to us about some new trend in education. And the last thing he talked about was a marriage counselor named Dr Gary Chapman who has a theory about how everyone has a love language, a primary way of expressing and interpreting love According to dr. Chapman there are five love languages 1 words of affirmation 2 quality time

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1:51:20 And in fact it may be counterproductive and make people idiots. But this is what you hear when you listen to the National Treasures educational show. Oh man, I'm so sorry. You sleep at the wheel? What? Hold on. Here's what you hear, let me start over here is what you hear when you listen to the National Treasure Educational Show. Go brush the dolphin and wash my elephant! You have succeeded so we won't be needing you. I just love what i do

1:52:03 F is by far the laziest letter in an alphabet. In fact, it's so lazy it doesn't even show up in the word alphabet! Al-pha-bet? But no f! Here's what I think happened... F called the PH. PH! PH! I'm tired Could you make the ffff sound for me in some words? Well, pH said okay. Yeah! Yeah sure I'll love to help out so next thing You know pH start popping up in words like alphabet and trophy well F was off fishing and eating fudge lazy That's just awesome do we pay for that

1:52:46 It's unbelievable. This whole show is like this. You know, it sounds a lot like this other show I've been watching. He doesn't understand the situation. Hey Romney, how do you translate that? Thank you very much for all of these. It's an insult and then you have to remember that is the Asian form, they don't come out and say you're a dick. They have to kind of beat around the bush so this is pretty nasty for Chinese because of the save face thing I wonder if there are a lot of Chinese Americans going well that's it I'm not voting for that guy he doesn't understand the situation

1:53:42 No, no. It's possible. I like the fact that we have... Most Chinese are going well. Because I think most of the email I got was some different than yours The only interesting observation was the guy has a pretty good accent Yeah Well it is nice that so many of our listeners were able to translate it immediately They were like oh here you go We know what this means My wife speaks Mandarin We've got a lot of Chiners checking in Like that I don't want to belabor the point but i'm gonna ask for a request. Okay come on one more manning let's play it one more time. Obama is behind whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping the constitution he is wholly and totally eligible he is a criminal whoopee

1:54:36 I got a report regarding that. Dennis Hoff owns the Bunny Ranch and if the presidential election were held today there's no question who would win here, the prostitutes at this legal brothel have a pimping for Paul campaign because Paul supports their right to make their living this way yes you have a right to do things that are very controversial I love it. Now of course, I edited this report because they made it sound like... This is on CNN It was the health editor. Ugh Yeah Because of course they made it sound like you know Oh this so crazy now the hookers want him But of course to me its great

1:55:28 I love that. I wish we had tons of prostitutes donate in to our cause. Oh man, what do I have? Yeah we don't even know if we have any prostitutes that listen to us! Well, you never it would be funny if we got a donation so as I'm a working girl We have code $50. We have code it's a sixty nine dollar donation will know what you mean wink-wink nudge-nudge say no more Yeah, and we have had a couple of those but they're always coming in from guys well hey this rent boys out there I'm pretty sure I think we might have a couple rent boys listening to us So I wouldn't be surprised um

1:56:07 I'd be proud actually. Yeah, I'm sure you would be proud Hey very well. I'm sorry no I got a couple of just off the wall clips mm-hmm Just to show you what you know Santorin? I don't want to really do much with Santorum But listen this Santorum's where he did you know that yeah, I saw him this morning He's now wearing a vest with his name on it. Yeah No his best is selling those vests he sold almost a thousand of these vest and then you can buy them on the website It's got his name on a Santorum vests yes Yeah, Santorum sweater vest. You know people will be going to Curiosa shops 50 years from now what's this screw the ring look at that vest? That's beautiful Wow Santorum was it a club was in a private Club? Let me put the insane people in the insane Santorum

1:55:28 I love that. I wish we had tons of prostitutes donate in to our cause. Oh man, what do I have? Yeah we don't even know if we have any prostitutes that listen to us! Well, you never it would be funny if we got a donation so as I'm a working girl We have code $50. We have code it's a sixty nine dollar donation will know what you mean wink-wink nudge-nudge say no more Yeah, and we have had a couple of those but they're always coming in from guys well hey this rent boys out there I'm pretty sure I think we might have a couple rent boys listening to us So I wouldn't be surprised um

1:56:07 I'd be proud actually. Yeah, I'm sure you would be proud Hey very well. I'm sorry no I got a couple of just off the wall clips mm-hmm Just to show you what you know Santorin? I don't want to really do much with Santorum But listen this Santorum's where he did you know that yeah, I saw him this morning He's now wearing a vest with his name on it. Yeah No his best is selling those vests he sold almost a thousand of these vest and then you can buy them on the website It's got his name on a Santorum vests yes Yeah, Santorum sweater vest. You know people will be going to Curiosa shops 50 years from now what's this screw the ring look at that vest? That's beautiful Wow Santorum was it a club was in a private Club? Let me put the insane people in the insane Santorum

1:56:54 So he's got this kick about natural gas. Now you know for a fact that you can get your car converted to natural gas and a lot of people do it because you get all kinds of extra privileges on the carpool lane stuff, and I've seen it be done as low as $1,000 dollars and you end up having to for the conversion and most of conversions can go back and forth between gasoline and natural gas and is put in a tank in your trunk. It's an oxygen tank sized thing in your trunk, that's it but listen to this idiot! And so we need to look at natural gas as not really an alternative to automotive fuels but is an alternative

1:57:35 18 wheelers and garbage trucks and buses and other fleet vehicles as a way of burning clean energy, affordable energy. Energy that we produce in this country, we are 100% self-sufficient on natural gas in this country. And it's a fuel that we should be using more of. It is cheap and it can be used in transportation again not automobiles because about fifteen thousand dollars a car you have to have tanks all over the place but it can be used on larger vehicles we need to be moving that direction why? Because natural gas vehicles burn clean. And the maintenance on those vehicles is a lot less than when your born in oil

1:58:13 Okay, so he's an uneducated douche. I mean it sounds like you got a tank on your roof and a tank in the passage of describing it waving his arms around It was indicating a tank huge So are we talking about liquid petroleum gas LPG here? Are you talking about propane no LPG LPG right yeah No In fact In Gitmo Nation lowlands when I was growing up there in the 70s and 80s it was very normal lots of people had LPG tanks. Yeah, and and smells great by the way when it does It's no sweet and stuff and you always laugh You know like you know? it's like haha got my LPG tank because at the time was like 30% of the cost of a liter of petrol of petrol is still cheaper

1:58:58 I'm sure it is, but you gotta have huge tanks everywhere. It's not good for 18 wheelers and garbage trucks. You idiot! That makes no sense. Why would it be good for an 18-wheeler? Because they got plenty of room. The driver doesn't need a cab to sleep in he can sleep on the tanks. So I just wonder if these guys make this stuff up as they go along. Oh yeah totally So while you were reading the thing, I was listening to C-SPAN. If people out there want to know what kind of sacrifices we eventually make... ...I ended up listening to the... and i don't know if you've seen these but they have every so often on c-span they have supreme court hearings yeah i've seen them from time to time well you don't really see anything no because all they have is the sound and then a picture of the judge it's very boring! It's very boring You sit there go like

1:59:48 Man, have I been sitting here for like five minutes and the picture didn't move? I really gotta do something about my life. So there's a couple...I didn't realize these guys Here's an example. They're having a hearing on the FCC and its arbitrary rules about what constitutes obscenity on television, and the broadcasters are up in arms about this because it is arbitrary. It is! And they went on with how this show was on... and you can say Spielberg whatever he does is gold You can do that but you can't show somebody's butt. Yeah, yeah, it was like in... What was it? What was that instance? Was it Band of Brothers or was it

2:00:29 Anyway, if oh no it was right that was but there's a bunch of also his Schindler's List if it's in the context of war and horrible atrocities then it's okay to use the f-word Yeah, that and or show a nuded person. Yeah So they had they're going on and this is I got two clips did you say it? Did you say a nuded person? Nudity, thank you said nuded. It's a good word. I'm sticking with it Okay the guy has been nuded I'm coming at you new didn't know so there's the deed I don't know if these things are boring or whatever but first of all there's a some discussion going on and Ginsberg who is this old lady on the Supreme Court she comes in and she says some comment well maybe they should keep people from coming on an interviewing me you know see yeah she says what you know when you bring on these artists they can cuss on the air and she just had some stupid thing to say. And then the guy follows up he pays no attention keeps talking, and then Scalia comes in with a snide remark

2:01:31 saying or maybe they shouldn't have those sorts of people on the TV. and then the guy, the attorney for ABC I believe he doesn't even acknowledge that Scalia says anything and he keeps talking as though this is insanity but i was listening to this. What's wrong with these people? This is not something that covers a vast array of speech on broadcast it's a tiny fraction And so if you're talking about Pacifica as the outer bound consequences are the shock jocks are fine The Super Bowl halftime episode with Janet Jackson is fine. You can have as many of these seven-second episodes of NYPD Blue as you want, that's all fine. In fact anything that isn't at that level... And on the other side, you better be careful about calling certain people, certain artists to be interviewed because even though it's unscripted

2:02:27 There's always a risk they're going to say something they shouldn't say. A couple answers there, one is the delay in bleeping technology Justice Ginsburg and the other one is that there is a scienta requirement under the commission's enforcement authority here and so In that situation it seems highly unlikely you would have the requisite scienter that could lead to forfeiture Maybe the third is you should interview these people Let me spend if I could a minute on the NYPD blue broadcast Wow Yeah, that's that. That's our Supreme Court right there yeah don't interview people who might say something naughty like like F word or well by the way vagina is okay

2:03:08 Yeah, they gave it to go ahead. So I was thinking well these guys say this is like idiotic but now it got to the point where do these Supreme Court justices and in this case one of Clinton's appointees a good Ginsburg's the other one This guy brought Breyer Breyer b-r-e-y-e-r this guy who's got the most pretentious way of talking? This guy I'm gonna tell you, it's kind of set this up. This is the Central Time Zone clip. This guy doesn't seem to realize and he kind of stumbles around because he realized he doesn't realize He doesn't know that the central time You know on television they have West Coast time, Central Time And Central Time is essentially just the same as a New York feed so its broadcast an hour earlier Yeah, I get to go... So 9C 10E 10W right? Yeah yeah I get to let him in at 1030 here

2:03:58 Everybody in the world knows this. Don't they? I guess i should play the clip Well no, before you could answer the question Doesn't most people know this to be a fact and it's not some sort of plot It is almost so automatic that... But this guy Breyer who apparently never watch Is he a Supreme Court judge? He is the Supreme Court Judge! And he says that Well, they showed it at 10 on the East Coast but then they decided... Decided to sneak it in at 9!

2:04:38 No, no. I'm telling you for 10 years that had features this wasn't I mean III don't know about this instance It's called nude awakening it's about the sexual awakening of the child You ran at your client after ten o'clock on both coast and they choose to run it at nine o'clock for some unknown reason in the Midwest My point is what the FCC off terribly told you to do was run it one hour later in the Midwest Just as she did on the coast just and then Wow That's awesome. What if they read for some? Unknown reason what an idiot Was that unbelievable I was a jaw-dropper. I'm listen this is our Supreme Court

2:05:31 They're making decisions about all the, you know whether the law should be this or that and they and this guy thinks are running something in our early for some unknown reason on the central time zone. I mean are they that out of touch? This is, I mean this is just, I found it distressing Meanwhile do you know that uh we were talking earlier about ICANN Do you know that they actually own internet time now No Yeah, this have the Time Zone database which keeps track of time zones and it's Unix, Linux. Of course Apple's Mac OS uses this database to

2:06:14 coordinate times across geographic regions, Oracle MySQL anything written in Java Perl PHP that is now being run by ICANN as well they just took that over just earlier this month didn't hear about that. They own time on the internet the TimeZone master list. They own time! Well it's a good thing to know and I wouldn't mind owning some time yeah they just said hey we'll level run that don't you worry about it You know what you can do if you messed up that database? The time zone is a lot of fun. Yeah, uh-huh Wow that's pretty sad John So I'm watching...I didn't realize this you're always thinking about there This was the I'm gonna play a clip from A movie that was written in 2007 said this is before Janet Napolitano ever showed up I think we may have talked about this a couple years ago. It says Starship Troopers? This is a new version of what? Starship troopers

2:07:09 Number three did you know they made three of these turkeys? Yeah, we already played this clip. No no This is from number three though. This is a new one. There's a new commercial Oh, this is the origins clip Yeah, but I know we have talked about it before that apparently Janet Napolitano got the see something say something from a science fiction story written in 1960. But this is the one that came out in 2008 as Obama was being elected and then they really emphasized the see-something thing. A man who calls himself a citizen! A man who is no better than a plug!

2:07:44 That man is Elmo Gonniff, a self-proclaimed pacifist turned terrorist. And today he and other members of the Gonniff Peace Coalition are wanted in connection with the council bombing. And hey citizen you can help! Know your neighbors? Take another look citizen You could be living next door to a big fat reward. If you see something, say something! Would you like to know more? Yeah that was a big revelation that we did last year John so... So I just wanted to re-revelate it for our new listeners but the I think do you want to know more is a meme that our government needs to drop in too

2:08:28 I like the hey citizen. That's my favorite part. I like hey citizen! Yeah, hey citizen! Maybe we should start doing something new besides in the morning just say hey citizen Hey citizen. I don't like to be that derivative. Hey citizen. That's how i'm gonna talk to you from now on. Hey citizen How are you doing citizen? Hey, I'm gonna hey citizen. I want to play a clip for you in news clip from upstate New York near Buffalo Leroy and This is it's some crazies going on up there And I want you to tell me what you think is happening particularly when you hear the I Think it's the Surgeon General of New York State. I guess they have their own surgeon general He's at the beginning of this clip

2:09:19 There's something very weird happening with teenage girls up there and I want you to tell me what you think is happening. State health officials addressed hundreds of concerned parents and community members here at Leroy Junior Senior High School, but for some of them the information that officials had to give just wasn't enough We do have some answers we will share as much as we can without sharing the diagnosis. We can't do that, it's not right It's a federal issue but it's not right either." Answers leading to more questions in LaRoy as state health officials try to calm the fears of hundreds of parents wondering why 12 high school students all girls

2:09:57 have developed strange, uncontrollable tics in recent months. I can assure you that these individuals... the children have all been seen by professionals who have come up with an answer and they're being treated appropriately and are actually doing pretty well. State health officials and LaRoy's superintendent Kim Cox met with a full auditorium after a three and half month investigation announcing they've ruled out environmental factors like carbon monoxide as well as infections or communicable disease. Illegal drugs were also ruled out. We got the best minds focused in on this, and we're comfortable with what we've come up

2:10:32 But just what they've come up with, officials can't say. Generally speaking they cited genetics head trauma and drugs for OCD and ADHD as potential causes antihistamines are also known to cause ticks stress and anxiety make them worse but those answers weren't enough for Jim Dupont he says his daughter has missed nearly every day of school this past month and so now she has to be tutored and I worry about her future. She's only 17, she can't even drive now." DuPont says his daughter is seeing a neurologist but he hasn't heard a diagnosis. You feel frustrated and helpless because you don't know what you can do and um... you're just not getting any answers.

2:11:18 What do you think is going on up there John that they can't talk about because it's a federal issue and we know we're confident We know what's going on, but it says okay shut up slave. Hey citizen You don't need to know what's happening? What could that be John that's happening to teenage girls who are developing ticks and twitches like they have Tourette syndrome Well if I was the guess not knowing but the first thing that comes to mind when I hear this dot you this this description Is insecticides teenage girls And they're all teenage girls. Oh, HPV has got to have something to do with HPV. Gardasil of course So did you think they all took Gardasil? Of course they did! Teenage girls are getting this Right right right that would in second sight wouldn't work and boys would have the same problem. Yep teenage girls it's Gar- why can't we hear the guy in beginning yeah where we know what's going on but we can tell you it's a federal issue shut up slave need no it's Gardasil Ah yeah

2:12:17 This was one of our producers that sent this to me. I thought that was a great catch, like wow it's so obvious what is happening here Only girls please? It's like wow That's a good catch by the producer Great catch Administrators in LeRoy school have updated parents about mysterious disorders affecting 12 causing them to exhibit symptoms similar to Tourette's And then they go on with their long discussion of Tourette's This is your Democrat and Chronicle, Gannett newspaper. Well that's a scandal if true! It's a huge scandal but the thing is they're not telling the parents we know what it is but you can't know shut up well we're good we know what's going on but we can't tell you it's a federal issue Well if all these girls got Gardasil shot which by this thesis would be the case they all have to do is ask them

2:13:09 Yeah, that's a we're talking about major major made what they don't want to talk about it because there's a lawsuit here waiting to happen That would be not only kill the Gardasil business because of this situation But it would sue the company out of out of existence exactly so let's yeah. Let's shut it up Let's see if someone can uh lets you know It takes two girls two of them come out and say hey I took this shot in our bed You know and then yeah? I'm looking online to see if Yeah, well here. Well yeah okay so I'm not the only one figuring this one out for sure what is this? Artists who did this video let's see what this is possible break What is up YouTube Matt Larson 10 coming at you with a... We don't need that Look I have Tourette syndrome very mild case of it. I didn't get no HPV shot okay and This is an unknown condition No one knows what causes this You think I haven't looked into it

2:14:10 It's unknown. Now, I don't think these girls are going around going, ASSHOLE! You know? I don't think they have that kind of Tourette's. No...no. That would add a little more humor to the story. Yeah, it would be kinda cool if you're in class. But no, this is completely sad and I think you're right. There's a huge, huge scandal brewing here and hopefully someone can... all it would take is just say hey did your daughter have a Gardasil shot? Yeah well he needs one reporter asking three girls! Oh boy do you think that the reporters who actually live on the money from the Gardasil vaccine commercials would actually do that and report on it? You think so? Do you think that'll really happen John? I guess not Hey citizen

2:14:55 We need to focus our attention for a moment because of course it was very quiet I think the silence before the storm was very quiet over there in Euro land But things have not stopped some important news came out that we just need to discuss briefly. Yeah, there's no doubt that it will What was that? Let me hit this one. Investors have said that they will accept getting back only half of their original loans, but the talks have been complicated by demands for further concessions. The Greek government needs to slash its debt to more sustainable levels and convince the European Union and IMF keep lending it money It wants another 130 billion euros on top of 110 billion bailout it got in May 2010 Greece's total debt is 340 billion euros

2:15:57 Without a fresh injection of cash, the country will go bankrupt in March. That's when it has to repay earlier loans which are coming due. A deal must be struck well before 20th March when 14 and half billion euros worth of government bonds will be redeemed because the paperwork alone will take at least six weeks to process So this is of course in relation to standards and poor's downrating the debt of the following countries Cyprus Italy Portugal Spain by two notches That's literally what the S&P report says. Two notches like it's a Eurovision song contest, two notches They lowered long-term ratings on Austria France Malta The Slovak Republic and Slovenia by one notch

2:16:43 and affirmed the long-term ratings on Belgium, which had already been downgraded. Estonia, Finland, Germany, Ireland, Luxembourg and The Netherlands all ratings on the 16 sovereigns have been removed from the credit watch where they were placed with negative implications on December 5th." So this is important. This report from Euronews, I might add was, I believe broadcast before the talks literally broke down the hedge fund guys walked away from the table they said we're not taking no 50% haircut We're not doing that They are all insured and of course this will trigger a huge derivative issue if Greece were to default

2:17:26 Your thoughts on this, citizen? It's a mess! Beginning of the end. These guys have done a wonderful job, you folks even though you know you have people criticizing them for stalling the inevitable I'm just wondering how long they can go...I was suspecting from following this fairly closely that all hell would break loose this month and it would set off to worldwide economic collapse But I'm thinking these guys are so good at this that i think they can go, they can kick it down a few. They're not getting much further than a couple more months but that March deadline is going to be one of the showdown points and...I don't know Here's one of the guys from Russia Print more money folks! Print more money Well if only they would you know That would certainly prolong it but European Central Bank doesn't seem to want to do that

2:18:17 Here's one of the Russia Today commentators. It struck a terrible blow for Sarkozy, his only real chance of winning the election was to show himself as a safe pair of hands, as the devil you know in a crisis Now it is clear that France has both the crisis and the devil they know So in internal French politics its'a very serious event indeed But I repeat, it not just a political matter, but an assessment by a rating agency Of the ability of France and other countries to repay its debt. And it's an assessment therefore that the debt situation in Europe has not been tackled, and that in fact is getting worse We've had a Eurozone crisis now for two years and it's been particularly intense for the last six months and a standard pause in their press statement announcing the credit cuts say they think European leaders have not responded adequately to the crisis and that's why they're downgrading the countries

2:19:14 So it's an assessment of the situation on the ground, which is that European countries are struggling to contain their debt. So the way I read... Just say it man! I don't have to go to another computer and look at what you're Skyping me? Okay, just setting up the end-of-show clips. I have an end-of-show clip too though What do you have? I have Ron Paul kicking everyone on MSNBC's ass He has the most eloquent interview with Morning Joe, uh...with uh what's her name? Brzezinski? Milica? Milka. Yeah, her. Her who was like... Well we just run that how long is it? It's about eight minutes

2:20:01 Oh, geez. But he's so good because it's only... Okay well why don't we just run that and I'll save my two clips and I'll actually edit the whole thing together Well if you have Euro things then I am interested because No it's not Euro! Oh I'm sorry oh I thought you had euro things okay no no I got some other stuff that is completely uh Well, just on the euro thing then. Just to let you know how this so first of all very important because what this guy was saying was that this is to screw Sarkozy and we know that the standards in port it's a commercial business So they're taking their orders probably from the Federal Reserve or Treasury someone? So it is to screw Sarkozy I'm pretty sure of that That's uh, you know, so France is like hey goodbye

2:20:40 I still think, John they're going to pull it off. I don't think the euro will collapse. It's been going on since 1956! They so desperately want everyone paying their taxes in Brussels that i think they are really going to try and pull it off. They are gonna integrate so your taxes go directly into the central European state I think there's still a real possibility of that happening. In fact, the standards and poor report actually says that's what they need to do They need the fiscal union The political and fiscal Union That will lead to civil war so yeah sure go that way it will meanwhile in their Baron von Pelsenmacher's backyard is to show you how now let's just say John Let's just say in a crazy world where this actually could happen

2:21:33 I wanted to buy your house now your house is probably about a hundred twenty five thousand dollars. I'm just guessing what? I'm just guessing yeah, okay 200,000 whatever it's not a castle we're in California Okay 245 and I said I want to buy this house from you And I came over with a suitcase full of dollar bills would that be acceptable to you oh Yeah. Would you say, congratulations Adam here's the deed enjoy? Yeah that'd be more than acceptable Well that's not the way it works with the euro certainly not Wait a minute! yeah listen to this I didn't even know this apparently there was already a legal limit in Belgium which means of course its all over Gitmo nation Euro land That payments in cash are now to be reduced from 15 thousand to 5 thousand euro

2:22:32 So you can't pay for anything in cash if it's over 5,000 euros. What? Yeah and of course the new measures are intended to help in the battle against money laundering so... No its not! Yeah its good for you they even want a lower to 3,000 what if I wanted to pay by check Now that may be okay, but I think it's the cash that is a problem. That's because they want to go to a cashless society so you can monitor every cent you have and So everything has to be on a card It's like the food stamp thing in United States now is all on a credit card debit card You know so it's a debit card yeah, so everything's on a card so you Adam your going to get paid? It gets to go on this card now you have like ten twenty thousand on there whatever its worth The card and then somebody in the government says you know

2:23:16 I think we should investigate this guy. Pull his money! Yeah, block his account. Block his account. Turn off his chip. Hey citizen... You have no cash you can't get out of town there's no money allowed because you know it is a cashless society and now your screwed. Hey citizen that's right it's coming really close but Gitmo Nation Lowlands is even better Couldn't believe this. I mean they might be not a civil war but an uprising before you know it Maybe, I don't know that yeah, we're unlikely Yeah They've got the voice over there in all though in all the Euro land countries everyone's like glued to the television Oh the voices on tonight. Oh, that's great. Yeah he such a good singer the In the borough of Amsterdam West

2:24:05 The council is going to introduce parking fees based on the length of the car. This is like that idiotic crap in Finland! Yeah, so if you have a bigger car you might be- You might wind up paying twice as much to park than a smaller car. This is crazy it either fits in this spot or it doesn't Awesome It's awesome This is like what they, I think they should do. You might as well just go all the way with this sort of thinking and tell you where this leads And it...and I'm actually personally stunned that it hasn't happened already Hey citizen! When you go on an airplane they weigh you and get charged by the pound That's right Hey citizen, you look a little pudgy around there Why don't you step on the scale for a second citizen? Don't worry It's just normal procedure Hey citizen That'll be an extra 25 bucks Oh you got luggage? Oh hey citizen

2:25:10 Yeah, you're right. That's all coming and we'll be sitting here going down on the Titanic It's all coming that way because there's more ways to gouge the public Hey what are we doing in Afghanistan again John? What was the point again? Why are we there? To get bin Laden! Now that we got him what should we be doing there? Rebuilding the country No come on it's gotta be another reason let me think... To pee on people Is there anything that we could do that might make some money? Oh yeah, we could grow poppies. The United Nations says there's been a dramatic increase in the price and production of Afghan opium. The latest report by the UN Office on Drugs and Crime will make worrying reading It says opium farmers in Afghanistan probably earned more than 1.4 billion dollars in 2011

2:26:08 That's equivalent to 9% of Afghanistan GDP. The UNODC says there has also been a big increase in opium production Prices began rising in 2010 after plant diseases wiped out much of the poppy crop. As a result, higher prices were predicted in 2011 but the UN says these have exceeded expectations. Many farmers say they want to plant more opium poppies because of high prices

2:26:45 UN officials say opium is now a significant part of the economy which funds the insurgency and fuels corruption. It's a bonanza! 1.4 billion but the production, because I read the report so you don't have to, the production of opium not just the poppies, the production is 2.4 billion This is a bonanza baby And this was just that if the farmers are making $1.4 billion in the course they're at the low end, they're at the bottom There is a possibility that, I mean not the possibility but if you do the math and the numbers must be enormous. I can't imagine what the intelligence agency cut must be it must be 20-30-40 billion who knows? Well its 100 billion at least because that's the amount they're allowed to take in gifts remember? They're allowed to take gifts over there donations

2:27:37 Remember we read that in the National Defense Authorization Act? Oh, right. Right, right, right... Yeah allowed to take gifts. That's a hundred billion So there was little subtext of the story you kind of overlook which is that the poppy seeds had or the poppies had this disease or whatever it is. To raise the price You know that Monsanto sells poppy seeds? You're kidding me Check it out Really Can I just buy them from them off the rack? Let me see, Monsanto poppy seeds. Really? Well it says...I mean seeing some evidence that they've used a Monsanto poppy seed and they're trying to develop a poppy seed that can't reproduce so you can just have which would be the safest way to grow them of course Organic poppy seeds no less

2:28:29 Wow heirloom seeds heirloom poppy seeds. That's right We Harvard did these these right there from the fields in Afghanistan and then we protected him so they kill themselves after that So, you know, we're gonna raise the price of overall the heroin market thing You know if you want some black man It's gonna be hard because we got a corn it cuz this poppy seed will die and Afghani's they gotta go buy our seeds again You see it's somebody's got my seeds from somewhere. Especially these other seeds are having a disease problem good systems A very very good system We're really smart you're all a-holes and we're on to you yeah, that's my bottom line alright Let me set up this final end of show clip and I gotta ease into it

2:29:08 with a Pew Internet, not Pew, they have an internet study. The Pew Internet is the study of American whatever. But they also just have the Pew research and the LA Times did a nice hit job on Ron Paul And we are trained as media assassins to go in and look at the underlying research Here it starts off with the headline is voters struggle to answer basic questions about the GOP field And a new poll by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press posed four questions. Which GOP candidate served as Speaker of the House? But then here's their conclusion, 43% of voters answered at least three of the questions correctly compared with just 16 percent of non-voters. Voters were least able to name the candidate who opposes US involvement in Afghanistan

2:30:08 So the way this reads is like, oh my god no one knows that Ron Paul's against the war. Right? That's what it reads! So I go and look at the research and they asked four questions... And this is almost like one of those joke things where you ask three easy questions then ask a tough one and then people are all flustered and they don't know what to say. I mean that's how you do these things. Question number 1 which GOP candidate served as Speaker of the House 69% knew Mitt Romney was governor of 53 percent knew that After Iowa and New Hampshire, the next primary is in. 45% knew that And then which GOP candidate opposes US involvement in Afghanistan? 44%. It's not like that was completely off the radar! It was 44 percent of people knew that That's actually really good

2:31:00 Yeah, it sounds reasonable. It's not like nobody knew Well I mean considering that only 45% knew after Iowa and New Hampshire the next primary is South Carolina which has been on the news incessantly Think it's more of an indictment of The Los Angeles Times not getting the word you know facts to the public That's what I'm saying They're trying to make Ron Paul look bad again by oh no one knows No one knows what he's all about They didn't say 44%. They said the least 44% I'm impressed actually. Yeah, this is news some of these newspapers have no way I mean the Los Angeles Times is a real loser yeah who runs that who owns that outfit well now it's a guy that says he's the supermarket king from Chicago he's out of Illinois. Oh by the way in the show notes a fantastic article about Valerie Jarrett Now written by I will admit The Weekly Standard

2:31:55 But finally someone's looking into who she is and what she does, and it starts off with... Yeah that's a funny line. I'm beginning to think there may be some sort of a menage-a-trois going on. What do you think? Now all of the sudden that became sexy She's got a big rack! Anyway Maybe he's the beard just say as a possibility anything can happen on the no agenda show it is the best podcast in the universe and coming up right after The show we have We don't have an old gender producers upset update But inside the podcaster studio or get most they will be interviewing guest stars sir Craig Jones And Sir Andrew are known as chem slave so make sure you check that out on no agenda stream calm I'm Adam curry here, and

2:32:57 The drone star state Camp MoFo. And from Northern Silicon Valley, John C. Dvorak We'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on NOAgenda End of show clip is Ron Paul pwning MSNBC Alright, let me answer I understand where you're coming from here I think sort of You know, but the house is already on fire. And I think no matter who...no matter what we say about the fire... Yeah look at these headlines! The house is on fire. Our house is on fire So let's take one industry specifically Let's take the automotive industry in this country Are you saying spend no money on the automobile industry in this country? That American automobile manufacturing let it disappear

2:33:36 Well, I think you're correct. The house is on fire and you think you're putting water on it and I think you're putting kerosene on it. And that's the big argument no you take the car industry yes I think we should put more money into the car industry but it should come from private sources It shouldn't come from government because government will divvy out the money politically But there are private sources of money if there's anything a value that it'll be bought up but you don't you can't value anything when the government buys assets that aren't sellable. You buy up worthless assets, so there's some worthless assets in these car companies So if you want good money to go into car companies, you have to allow real capital flow into it. Yes, you do want that but don't want the government to do it. What systemic changes? If we look at tax policy which alters flow of capital as well, whether its spending or any other aspect

2:34:31 of the use of money, interest rates monetary supply etc. What systemic change would you put in? Would you exploit this opportunity to change the system of capitalism in America for the better how would you change it Get rid of the income tax get rid of corporate taxes and really lower taxes, but you have to lower spend Would you add a consumption tax to make up for that would you would you put a consumption? How would you make up for the lost revenue on income day I agree with your income in business tax. I just don't know where you get the revenue elsewhere And I would argue well. I'm not it. I'm not interested in getting their revenues I want to cut spending But the problem is nobody wants to cut the American Empire even Obama's

2:35:09 administration wants to increase spending overseas and increase military spending. As long as you want to run the world empire at a trillion dollars a year, believe me, you cannot solve this problem and that is where the crux of the matter is so yes you have to cut spending along with cutting taxes so to say well let's have a consumption tax that's just transferring the penalty to new victims But you want to get taxes down, you want to get rid of regulations. You don't wanna do what we did after the Enron failure past Sarbanes-Oxley by the conservative Republicans. That's the fault is in the thinking that we need so much government. Congressman are you really saying that given the meltdown on Wall Street and some of the craziness that we saw at Citigroup and Merrill and other places, there should be less regulation not more in some cases?

2:35:59 Yeah, we should have more on the Federal Reserve so that we know what they're doing. They are exempt from regulation as is Treasury. We give Treasury $350 billion and we don't even know where they spend it! That's the type of regulation you want? But what about Wall Street? Do you not want to see some derivative products? Do you not wanna see there be some kind of regulation in terms of what banks can do? Sure, anybody who commits fraud goes to jail just as they did in Enron. We didn't need Sarbanes-Oxley to prosecute everybody in Enron through the laws of fraud! If they commit fraud they go to prison just like Madoff. You know we had all those regulations SEC and everything else and he got

2:36:38 by. It proves SEC didn't work. But Congressman, it's not just fraud in some cases. In some cases people had very little equity put down and were leveraging things up tremendously should there not be regulation about how much equity you effectively have to put in the deal or how much capital you have on your balance sheet? Sure and if you understand leveraging equity and and they had yet to look at fractional reserve banking that's where you pyramid down so they're doing exactly what the federal reserve does is a create money out of thin air in a pyramid debt as for the bubble comes from that's why you have to look at monetary policy but you're looking at this symptoms rather than the cause congressman hang hang with me for a couple seconds here i am extremely limited

2:37:21 And 90% of this conversation that you've been having with Dylan and Carlos has gone way above my head. But your basic theory, let's get government out of nearly everything... Let's swing back to what I do nearly every morning. I drive to work on roads filled with potholes beneath bridges that are crumbling What's the answer here? Do I go out and try to find six carpenters, some bricklayers and some masons to fix those bridges and roads and bridges? Government has got to do it. What is your point of view about stuff like that basic reconstruction of this country

2:37:56 Okay, I know that I can't have my perfect society quickly but what i would do is quit bombing bridges in Iraq and then paying to rebuild them. And then wasting the money on rebuilding over there. I would take that money save it on the deficit cut the deficit and spend some of our infrastructure That's what I would do when we could do that but as long as you do it through debt financing its impossible ideally roads and bridges should have been taken care of by our states. It wasn't designed in the Constitution that the federal government would take care every bridge and every road, but that isn't the worst type a spending and I think in the interim we certainly could. We can cut this spending overseas but we're going to bring ourselves to our knees were gonna have a dollar crisis where doing exactly what Obama Osama bin Laden wanted to do when he did too the Soviets He's bringing about financial chaos to this country and we've got to realize

2:38:48 that is a problem. It's not that we need more government spending, that to me is foolish. I want to ask you the same question as I've been asking myself everybody on this set. I asked Tucker, I asked Pat, and I'll ask you in reality forget your perfect society mine or anybody else's In reality were going to lose millions of jobs over the next year or two. In reality our banks have been mismanaged horribly as a result both the bankers and politicians in my opinion And were now dealing with that What would you do? In other words, saying what you don't think should happen that has a value to a point. But in reality today... ...what do you think the American politicians and bankers ought be doing?" I wouldn't pretend that pouring kerosene on the workers is working! Well, you started with, I wouldn't. Sorry to interrupt you but I want you to start it with, I WOULD

2:39:33 Okay, what I would do is allow the liquidation of debt to occur. You want the people to spend more money in buying up assets you want these assets priced in the marketplace so we know what their values are that's why that first package of the... But no one on the market will do that as you know Then there's no value there! That's a good information then there's no value Why should you dump it on the American taxpayers? message that if it's worthless you don't dump it on the taxpayers. That is why our slump is getting worse! How do you get this country healthily to your perfect society where there are limited taxes and free markets and innovation reigns supreme, me and Willie are on the beach getting drinks served from robots but thats not where we are today? how do you deal with reality of problems in this country

2:40:24 Well, the reality is you have to liquidate debt and get rid of the malinvestment. If you don't do that, you can't do it but what you're doing now is working on a destruction of the dollar there's a pretense that your going to improve things but your really gonna destroy the dollar in a financial crisis like we have today is going to be a dollar crisis I know the risks. Congressman, quick question would you be willing to accept unemployment in the double digits 14-15% for several years if in your mind that's what it took to fix our fiscal house? Well, it's better than 20. But I wouldn't be responsible or the people who created the bubble would be responsible Go talk to Greenspan and ask him if he is accepting responsibility for 14% So you can't blame the people who are trying to correct the problems on unemployment You gotta blame the people that created the bubble The people were delighted with all of billions of dollars

2:41:17 they were making in the last decade. I agree with a lot of what he says, that the frustrating part of this is to try and figure out the constructive way forward. Identifying the problems we can back out... The conversation keeps going backwards. To Obama's credit, he is trying to move forward and it will be interesting to follow his career. Obama is behind whooping-whooping-whooping! Whooping-whooping-whooping! The Constitution! wholly and totally eligible he is a criminal whoop him right in, whoop him and whoop him and whoop him.