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00:00 Look a napkin! Adam Curry, John C. DeVore It's Thursday December 22nd 2011 time to get my nation media assassination episode 367 This is no agenda Preparing for a white Christmas here at Camp MoFo in Austin Texas The capital of the lone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from the Pacific Northwest At the compound, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning... Well prepared opening statement sir Yes i really spent a lot of time writing that one. I worked on that for two days. It's cold here John so cold well it's colder here I don't know we've got like 40s

00:48 Is it colder where you are? What's the temperature in northern Silicon Valley. It's probably around, this is Pacific Northwest Silicon Valley Oh wait a minute! You're up with the fam? Yeah I'm up in... yeah Washington State Where it's colder than where you are You know what they say that uh... You're not near Seattle are you Well, I can drive to Seattle so that's kind of close. They say that Seattle and Austin are sister cities. Ha! Yeah. Like a couple lesbians? Oh wow man did you see the first lesbian kiss

01:32 Have you seen this? No, what? Oh my... Wait a minute. First lesbian kiss? Lesbians have been kissing forever! No this is the first one after the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell and... The first army lesbian kiss? Navy, navy and Google it right now. And the navy... You've got to look at it because whoever does this PR, uh, chapeau bas and congratulations, wilkommen, bienvenue great job Because you know if this is gonna be the first homecoming kiss for a gay couple, you know You want to ease people into it? All right. So now you don't want to have Two guys doing that because that just, you know the networks might not run it. You know it's difficult so they have two girls kissing but not just two girls who is directing this show? I don't know Howard Stern. I think so. I mean they are smoking hot. They're beautiful It's like wow Yes more of that is so smart to check in Google it right now a homecoming lesbian kiss The Telegraph has a copy of it aren't they beautiful

02:36 Well I can't tell because they're smooshed up against each other. No, CNN's been running the video footage all morning. Oh and had a first lesbian kiss! Wooo! Yeah, CNN our objective news source. Anyway in the morning to you John and to all of the boots on the ground drone pilots on the ground steering the drones in the air bakers in the kitchen And of course our human resources in the chatroom, noagenestream.com and noagenechat.net Yes! And hi to you too! Now that doesn't count come on man The uh... I'm looking at the Navy boys Give me an in the morning In the morning Adam You said all ships would see it took my thunder It's about the-I know but its about the in the morning part Otherwise they don't feel good

03:25 So, the Navy woman is quite attractive. I can't... The other girl's less so but she's pretty But the Navy girl it's almost as though..I'm almost seeing this as okay here's what we're gonna do maybe this will get these guys off my case It's exactly that! I can hear the meaning already Listen we got to do this whole home for the holidays because you were coming back from Iraq and everything And why don't we just slip a little bit of Don't Ask, Don't Tell. You know these are Curry Dvorak guys They're on to the whole bestiality thing now being approved so we've gotta you know thwart that let's Let's show them what Don't Ask, Don't Tell is really bringing you straight guys Yeah anyway So in other news

04:08 Whatever we got. Oh, it's so annoying News by the way that the big news that it seems to me the top news story is the fact that iTunes isn't carrying in the show Yeah This is very strange Because I only people who had iTunes were having a problem with it as far as I can tell We've had some regional problems with our content delivery network from time to time It does happen you know I had Andrew grumet over there Mevo blow out the cash whatever that means and And then he rejiggered something and it made no difference. Nothing helped, you know? But I don't know! These things do worry me... What did we say in the show that someone could have made a call to Apple about?

04:52 We didn't talk about Apple. No, we didn't talk about Steve Jobs and I don't care if we can talk about CRM Oh You know maybe because I said you know Steve Joe when Steve jobs is bullying people He's a genius maybe that was the episode before so maybe they said you know what let's show these guys Let's show these guys who the real bully is That's right screw no you want to see some bullying pal here? We go well anyway Yeah, yeah, that's right. You were harping on that Yeah, it could be. It wouldn't surprise me I wouldn't put it past him that's for sure Why should we be distributing his show that slamming Apple? Yeah really well yeah We're doing you a service were doing your favor. That's the possibility Well its like the Google washing man apparently

05:45 No agendashow.com doesn't work at all in Chrome now and Google has changed something with Chrome have you noticed any differences? I don't use Chrome okay because i was using it on this machine in the studio And I've changed back to Firefox now and it's something they've done something weird. I don't know It feels like they've done some JavaScript come, you know injection combatant thing or whatever I don't know what the what they're doing But it's not behaving like a used-to and now if you use Chrome and go to know agenda show calm Very much like we've been Google washed Just an empty page doesn't show up. What? Yeah, he's like the banner and that's it

06:28 And that's a Squarespace site, it is nothing special. Right! Yeah we're just using the standard old Squarespace site so it shouldn't be anything different I think there's a new version of Chrome that does something funky Have you checked any other Squarespace sites out? Maybe Squarespace itself has having trouble with Chrome. Possible But then again what happened to all those great standards and this is not supposed to happen No these standards are a joke Yeah Standard shmandered No, I was quite irritated by this we can't wait bullcrap. This more reality show of the payroll tax cuts here in the United States and you know...

07:16 I'm sure a lot of people heard about this here in the United States of Gitmo Nation, but for those outside what's happening is there are some... There's a payroll tax provision which is expiring at the end of the year and over the first $18,000 that you make. The current payroll taxes 2.5% percent I think it would go up by like two and half to point 2.1 points or something so that could result $1,000 difference for just about everybody I think of course that thousand dollars makes a different type of difference to people making a lot more money. Yeah the problem is with that thousand dollars it turns out that when people do the calculations is nowhere near that by the way well irregardless

08:07 That's not a good use of the word. Is that an interesting term, but I don't think it is correct? No it's not. It's regardless is what you're supposed to say. Irregardless is something old women used to say in the 30s Oh well there ya go! I'm reincarnated But I liked it...I think we should make it popular We'll do that along with Bogative and uh...what was another one people have been calling me on Something else I've been saying wrong I like cripes Yeah, that but talk about old women from the 30s. Yeah, he's not so So this but they've boiled it down and now it's like it's like $40 a week essentially is what somehow they've they've mangled this and then we got you know people angry and yelling and You know They didn't pass the bill in the house at the Senate passed down because that was a two-month provision

09:00 And no one really tells you the truth. I did go in and read all the bills because there was like 493, 501, 502, 503. There's versions of these bills and amendments that go back-and-forth And I can boil this down to what the real problem is, but the reason why this thing didn't pass in the House and...I have to say that I kind of agree with it. It's because it's about how its going to be paid for That's the argument here There were two provisions in the bill One was that it was going to be paid for by charging extra fees For people who have a mortgage backed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

09:42 I mean, isn't that like taking the money out the back door? Yeah. That's a good one. Here is 40 bucks a week but if you own your own house and I would say people in lower income probably have mortgage backed by Fannie Mae Freddie Mac am i correct? Well...I don't know to be honest about it Not necessarily probably but they back a lot of mortgages and then we're going to charge you a fee on the front end or on the back end About $40-$50 But there was also in 502 A provision that said, okay well here's how we're going to pay for it now by freezing wages on all congressional wages and all federal wages. They were like no we're not gonna take it from us and give it to people! We're not gonna do that! No no no we're not gonna vote that way I just thought fount of you know...I think there's a spin-off show in the making here? I think Adam reads the bill so you don't have to

10:39 Because if you really go through this... You could probably do a good half hour solid, just you doing nothing more than reading bills and pointing out some of the crazy little provisos. That might be my New Year's resolution but of course the real problem here is we're talking about 30 billion dollars for two months but in essence about 100 billion dollars for the entire year How about taking out one submarine? You know, no one is saying well you know we had this huge $667 billion National Defense Authorization Act. I'm sure we can do with one submarine less One underwater base up there in Washington. One underwater submarine base Do we really need that? Do we really make it above water and save a hundred billion? That's the real problem

11:35 But no, we have to have a whole reality show and then the president went to Best Buy. Did you see this? These guys know what happened he went to Best Buy and purchased Like a Wii game for the kids whatever it was it was like $40.63. You know Just a show, you know like the presidents $40 I mean these people are sick just totally totally sick I tell ya You know, it's like really? And the president is like oh I hope my credit card works. By the way from what i could tell looked like he had an American Express black card diamond encrusted Well if you got American Express Black it works Oh yeah It always works regardless

12:25 There was one funny thing that I picked up on C-SPAN. A lot of people tweeted about this and it's not so much what happened is what What C-SPAN said after it happened? So this was, uh... So they did the... This was yesterday and the day before yesterday we had this whole... We had a whole reality show everyone's like just bunch of a-holes Just pontificating and of course no one cares you know let's finish the script go home for Christmas! We don't give a crap And so then yesterday they opened up the house, where they do it with a song of prayer, pledge of allegiance. I had to circle dance some voodoo and little sacrifice on the altar there and then it was who's the speaker? Or the... Ah come on what is it? Boehner! Yes it was Boehner No wasn't Boehner Whoever the guy was whoever the guy that does the attendance roll call and all that from Boehners office whatever Republican

13:25 He then immediately wants to shut it down so no more bill can be brought in, you know to discuss again. And then Steny Hoyer, and this is all a setup. This is totally a setup. Steny Hoyer starts yelling and then the president of the house, the guy who has the gavel walks off and he shuts off the microphones and then he shuts off the C-Span cameras. That's what was interesting about this. Listen to a bit of this exchange here. Pursuant to section 3B of House Resolution 493, the House stands adjourned until 10 a.m on Friday, December 23, 2011.

14:09 I'd like to ask for unanimous consent that we bring up the bill to extend the tax cut for 160 million Americans. So, the guy's now packing his bag. He walks off the floor Mr Speaker... There are guys picking up the candlesticks on the left. ...so many Republicans have walked away from middle class taxpayers... Walking away! You're screwing me! people you don't care as well from those who will be seeking medical assistance lawyer senior citizen any lawyer we regret mr. speaker that you have walked off the platform without addressing the issue of critical importance to this country and that is the continuation of the middle class tax cut

14:48 the continuation of unemployment benefits for those... Where was all this grandstanding when we could have gotten a hundred billion dollars from a submarine? Where was all that, huh?! You're all douchebags. But now here it comes. So, cuts the mic off. Well he can yield all he wants, he's not in control of the place They actually went on for 20 minutes in an empty place and then they had a press conference about it but listen so this happens now now it's just you know it's quiet And then they cut to us shot like a stock shot as you just saw that A stock shot of uh...of The Capitol and I'll listen this is the voiceover from C-SPAN which I thought was funny Chair did not recognize Representative Steny Hoyer instead gaveling the house out of session

15:32 And with the house out of session, the House TV gallery ended the video and audio feed from the floor. C-SPAN doesn't have control over those cameras. Mr. Hoyer stayed on the floor and spoke about the payroll tax cut for another 23 minutes. So C-SPAN doesn't have control? They can shut it off whenever they want! I didn't know that... about that. Yeah, I didn't know the thing they just said... Well you know the Democrats when they already had full power over everything if we remember what were doing to show the first two years of the Obama administration they were cutting guys off left and right ending things prematurely giving people one minute

16:12 You know to talk about a deep topic in fact that's one of the clips I have on the upcoming clip show And and by the way, I want to remind you the clip show. I don't know if even you realize The Clip Show is not about clips of us no No it's uh now I do realize because you explained it to me yeah Because JC was saying, well what can you get some good clips of you guys? No it's not that's the joke of it. It's a clip show! Anyway...it's a meta gag I guess So they did this crap and now they're having to pull on their...it's not even being pulled They had adjourned there was no reason to have this discussion. So there is one more thing in the... Strandstanding Oh yeah its all great. Its all a show exactly

16:54 Hey man, the X Factor finale part one is on tonight. We can do better! We can get better ratings we can get everywhere! Wolf will run it!" So there's something else in this 501 which was one of the bills where they state facts whereas... so whereas I didn't know this though The Social Security Trust Fund is now running a cash deficit and over the next 75 years will require an additional 6.5 trillion to pay scheduled benefits Did you know that? I thought they always said that it was all good, you know don't worry about it plenty of dough or whatever so it's at a cash deficit. That doesn't sound right and this is a fact because they stated whereas like everyone knows there's the facts! It's a fact! Now what where does it say exactly? That's exactly what it says and so there's a whole bunch of... hold on let me open up again I already closed it wasn't all that great This is house resolution 502

17:56 And so this is kind of like, it's also grandstanding but it says here. So the resolution and it says you know this is the difference between two months in a year It says on December 17th, President Obama called for a tax cut for the rest of the year. December 17th Nancy Pelosi said it should be a full year. The 17th House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer said it should be a full... So basically everyone's saying that it should be a year and now all of sudden you want two months And then it says whereas 2011 working Americans received a temporary payroll tax rate reduction which allowed the average family to keep $1,000 or more of their annual wages. Average family nearly 170 million workers blah blah blah and then where's the imminent expiration of the temporary payroll rate tax reduction is creating further uncertainty for families as well as employers who must adjust withholding amounts from their employees' paychecks I think it's true

18:58 And then it says, whereas the Social Security Trust Fund is now running a cash deficit and over the next 75 years will require an additional $6.5 trillion to pay scheduled benefits. There's got to be something fraudulent about this. Yeah they stole their money This is not what we've been hearing and I think by law they can't do that so something's amiss with this either the wording or the facts of them Or... It's alright with the facts Or maybe it's just true. Is that possible? Yeah, but I think it's true the same way that the post office is losing money Okay You know some sort of bookkeeping thing to make it look bad It's obviously all bookkeeping It's all imaginary Just digits, just computer numbers Not actual money Like a big pot of gold for when I retire

19:55 By the way, I was thinking about this post office thing. Yeah because you know it still galls me that this information is going out the way it is. Hmm...I think they really definitely want to get the post offices required by the Constitution as a delivery mechanism for in for communications and I think if they can privatize or get it out of the of the of the Constitution I think it's just another way like the internet switch to cut off communications between the public members and the public members. Is that true, that it's in the Constitution? There is a post office provision in the Constitution Really?! Yeah! Really!? Yeah I have to go look it up now Oh yeah hold on a while you know what we have to do in that case Consult The Book Of Knowledge Independent agency of United States government responsible for delivering postal service It is one of few goverment agencies explicitly authorised

20:58 by the United States Constitution. The Postal Clause was added to the constitution primarily to facilitate interstate communication as well as create a source of revenue for the early United States, yeah how's that working out for you? There were some early decisions... It is actually working out there they're soaking them for all their extra money they make right works out great billions! Was it 75 billion in prepaid retirement fund was that it? Yeah they had to do prepaid retirement funds for 10 years in advance just steal the money Thomas Jefferson feared that the Postal Service would become a source of patronage and waste of money. This fear, this is according to Wikipedia, this fear turned out to be somewhat prophetic as the office of the postmaster general came to take charge of patronage." Well there you go! There is some truth to that. The postmaster general's is a bad actor usually. Yeah have you seen Cooped?

21:58 The way that was the postmaster general though. That was the other guy who's been Postmaster General Look him up. He says stooge has been promoting this idea that they're losing money Mm-hmm see it's the unions he just a horrible person and Postmaster Generals to present let's see who it is Patrick are Donahue yeah, Donna who Donna who Donna who Let me see, so Obama appointed him. Wow there's like no he has been wiki washed There's nothing on this guy huh? So he just came out in as a hatchet man. Let me see Prior to being named Postmaster General Donna who served as 19th Deputy Postmaster General second highest Well what was he if he's never had a real job

22:58 He was sounds like an Obama appointee. It sounds good to me Oh, he was senior vice president of human resources and vice president of Allegheny area operations of the post office In 1775 when Benjamin Franklin was appointed the first Postmaster General that's when the US Post Office was Initiated yeah well I think about it The post office is still a good thing used to be a cabinet member it was so important no really Well, but I you know your original point is to be able to stop communication. Yeah, I guess so if it's privatized and then we can do anything we want right? Yeah yeah the president could just do an executive order no more flights for commercial mail And also eliminate that it wouldn't no longer be a federal crime to commit all sorts of mail fraud and things such as that Oh! And that of course is to protect the lawyers because if you send a bill that is fraudulent then that's mail fraud

23:59 Right, that's lawyers and also probably some other onerous potentials there. It's not good! No it's not good... interesting So the only other thing that has just been annoying me to no end is this Ron Paul hit jobs Now we already discussed that we knew that race would play a role in the presidential elections for 2012. Now this is cropping up, Ron Paul is being hit from all sides now there's the television side there's the print side. The print side is actually much more interesting but let me play

24:41 Let me play this clip here and you'll hear exactly what it's all about. This is Wolf Blitzer. Yeah, it is. And of course it's been rehashed a long time and coming up now for political reasons but everybody knows in my district that I didn't write them and don't speak like that nobody has heard me ever say anything like that and I've been re-elected time and again so everybody knows that uh... I don't participate in that type of language but the point is when you bring this question up your really saying your racist or are you racist? The answer is no! I'm not a racist matter fact

25:21 Rosa Parks is one of my heroes. Martin Luther King is a hero because they practiced the libertarian principle of civil disobedience, non-violence. Libertarians are incapable of being a racist because racism is a collectivist idea you see people in groups and as civil libertarian like myself see everybody has an important individual it's not the color their skin that is important as Martin Luther King said what is important is the character of the individual You know what is really interesting though? And this might be behind this I, as a Republican candidate probably am getting the most number of black votes and black supporters. And now that has to be undermined and i do this because i attack two wars that blacks are suffering from one the war overseas in all wars minorities suffer the most so they join me in this position i have against the war in Iraq and what about the war on drugs?

26:11 other candidate will stand up and frighten the cannon say I would pardon all blacks, all whites everybody who are convicted for nonviolent drug acts and drug crimes. And this is where the real discrimination is let me finish this because I got to get my message back because you put the other message out." So essentially what's going on here as they're pulling up these newsletters which yeah... The interesting thing about this clip John it's from 2008 This was the exact same thing they did in 2008. That's why I pulled it, I was like, oh it is the same thing happening all over again. Yeah no its a fractal. Oh boy! I don't know what my fractal jingle has been awhile since we've used it sorry about that yeah no it's a total fractal What is interesting though if you listen to so now the new one they have is they grab Ron Paul backstage Gloria Borger

27:08 Who is a total? And her husband is like Like a media trainer or something. I don't like her at all and she goes in the same thing with Ron Paul But listen to the end I But it makes you look bad and that's what they're, that the entire point here is to do this. It has pestered me about this and CNN does every single time so when are you going to wear yourself out? Well isn't legitimate I mean when you say no but... When are you gonna be there? Is it legitimate? I mean is a legitimate question to ask that someone went out and did your name? And when you get the answer its legitimate that you sort of take the answers like yeah You know what the answer is? I didn't write them, I didn't read them at the time and I disavowed him

28:07 That is the answer. Well, it's just a question I mean it's legitimate. It's-it's-it's come on! It's not? It's legitimate well it gets worse. Legitimate these things are pretty incendiary you know the right- Because of people like you No no no come on some other stuff was very incendiary and saying that in 1993 the Israelis were responsible for the bombing at the World Trade Center that kind of stuff so... Goodbye Alright alright thank Congressman, I appreciate your answer. Appreciate you're answering the questions and you understand it's our job to ask them. You understand it's our job to be an a-hole! You understand that she has this apologetic look on her face because she knows she's doing something horrible yeah now we have... Her husband is Lance Morgan, a lobbyist for Powell Tate Oh yeah go figure Now there are some new words We already had the Ron Paul army

29:05 But there's a new word on the scene that is being used. He might be 76, but you could tell he was feeling the mojo! The Mojo! It's now it's the Mojo albeit a Ron Paul type of mojo. It's a special kind of MoJo, it's ABC. What? Yeah it's a special kind of MoJo. Mo-Joe? Mo-Joe! What are you in the 1960s? Get to get the government out of everybody's life This libertarian who wants to abolish Medicare who opposes most all foreign intervention but wants to legalize drugs... this is so not true

29:47 want to legalize drugs he said they should be legal as a big difference in how this it should be decriminalized is what the term really turn term really is right knows he has a shot in Iowa why do one thing you're missing here which you have to probably play again just to get it this guy's voice He is making fun of him with his voice. Totally! Well, he just wants to do this and that and he wants to do that and oh hoho Yeah no I'm not Borderline Krusty the Clown Let's let a Krusty the clown... He was feeling the mojo The Mojo Albeit a Ron Paul type of mojo I'll just say get the government out of here So there is this mojo word everywhere

30:32 Wait a minute, there's a couple other things in this report that I had to play. This libertarian who wants to abolish Medicare, who opposes most all foreign intervention but wants to legalize drugs knows he has a shot in Iowa Why? He told ABC's John Carl it is his supporters They're very sincere and true believers and they are going to be there and they are not gonna sent away because of wind is blowing A small army of young committed disciples. But the problem? A bigger army that's not fighting. Army! Army! Troops crazy, wacky, kooky...

31:11 And now the message is clear. Yeah, no it's his delivery that really gets me I mean this is not a guy doing a serious news reporting a serious news reportage He he has he is mocking it with his with his light-hearted manner who and then he says That's just the way it isn't as crazy old dude with some mold Mojo there's more mojo talk though. It is like the word of the day my question does anyone come back once they go into purgatory politically speaking because I'm thinking of how Michelle Bachmann had some mojo and then she faded and Herman Cain had mojo and fated and Rick Perry Had it and faded, but it seems like they never come back to

31:50 If Newt is truly fading now, is he done? big news organization like CNN or any of them, the walls are covered with monitors. With every news feed they can possibly think up pumped into one monitor or another and when you're standing around doing nothing you tend to be watching these things and you'll punch up the sound on one or the other

32:31 and but don't be you know i i think they just is one of these which is group think i don't think any memo where i think it's somebody that's a great idea for what let's use in another guy using another guy using next thing you know it's like becomes this john stewart bit where they just cut one from on the mojo to mojo mojo mojo so these are two actually advisers won for mccain i think and uh... although they pretend to be democrats say at day uh... advise mccain on his campaign and Bush actually. And this guy really, really takes it all the way out there on Ron Paul.

33:18 I gotta move to the other guy, hold on. You know as you look at this race it does seem to be stabilizing in Mitt Romney's favor right now. Ron Paul says he is not the one who signed these wrote these he is not sure who did Bob Schrum what's the impact? Well I don't know whether he wrote them or not but truth of the matter is that he... Publish them. I think they're disqualifying and exceeds absolutely right He's not only unacceptable inside the Republican Party outside the mainstream of the Republican Party he's unacceptable in America, he's a Disqualified presidential candidate and not just because of what? He's written but he could win oh that did because of what is written I guess there's other stuff this whatever but that wasn't as bad as The Wall Street Journal This morning

34:01 Member of the editorial board Dorothy Rabinowitz writes, Ron Paul, I'm paraphrasing, one who is the best known of our homegrown propagandists for our chief enemies in the world. one who has made himself a leading spokesman for and recycler of the long and familiar litany of charges that point to the United States as a leading agent of evil and injustice, the military victimizer of millions who only want to live in peace. And then she goes on, and you need to read the whole thing by the way. It's in the show notes there can be no confusions about Dr Pauls own comments about the US after 9-11 he said to students in Iowa There was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq true it takes a profoundly environment Yeah They had planned we've discussed this isn't that is very well documented they had planned to invade Iraq and now they have the excuse of

34:59 It takes a profoundly envenomed mindset, one also deeply at odds with reality to believe and say publicly that the administration of this nation brought so low with grief and loss after the attack had reacted with glee. There are to be sure a number like-minded citizens around like 911 truthers whose opinions Dr Paul says he doesn't share but we don't expect their views in people running for the nation's highest office She reminds me of people like Hitler, whose opinions she doesn't share. What does that mean? Yeah it's outrageous now... Totally outrageous and that's a piece of propagandistic writing by the way ladies and gentlemen you should deconstruct yourself and take a look at it as very onerous Well there is better one

35:50 Also a Wall Street Journal. They evaluated Ron Paul's investment and savings portfolio This guy is so un-American, John! Listen to this... 21% of, actually it says yes. About 21 percent of Representative Paul's holdings are in real estate and roughly 14 percent in cash but he owns no bonds or bond funds and only has 0.1 percent in stock funds furthermore the stock funds that representative paul does own are all short or make bets against US stocks one is a double inverse fund then on the daily basis goes up twice as much as its stock benchmark goes down

36:34 The remainder of Ron Paul's portfolio, fully 64% of his assets is entirely in gold and silver mining stocks. He owns no Apple, no Exxon Mobil, no Procter & Gamble, no General Electric, no Johnson & Johnson not even a diversified mutual fund that holds a broad basket of stocks Representative Paul doesn't own stock in any major companies at all except big precious metal stocks like Barrick Gold, Gold Corp., and Newmont Mining So they actually say in this article he is anti-American because he doesn't own... It sounds like he's got a pretty balanced portfolio for someone who's the bear. Yeah, it says he's betting on the American economy crashing

37:15 Yeah? Yes! And that's somehow un-American, this is what people do. Unless you're a banker then it's all good I guess If you're a banker make out no matter what happens So... That is bogative That is the worst kind of sleazy writing ever I told you it was better than TV The guy holds a short position and he has long gold and real estate So what? Yeah, no then you're un-American and you don't invest in American companies. Not like he's the 50% owner of Al Jazeera. He's a weapons maker. No but this hit jobs so is it I don't know... By the way yeah you should we always remember that Fox News which hates Ron Paul hates him it said same ownership as Murdoch. It's Murdoch. So um what do you think can he survive this

38:03 Yeah, I think he can actually win Iowa. Because I still think the reaction...I think the public is a little more tuned into this than these guys want to believe and by the way a lot of reports are not swayed by anything in The Wall Street Journal. They're not going to vote for Ron Paul anyway so it's meaningless but I think majority of the public is really...I think American public generally speaking is very much into what's fair and they see this as being an unfair situation so they're gonna vote for Ron Paul. I think he can win Iowa, and i think you can win New Hampshire which would really screw things up. It would. Do you remember... New Hampshire people aren't dummies! In 2008 we talked about this guy David Cohen who was a uh... He was... Before we do that let's thank our executive producers to get them. Alright well it's not just get out of the way lets put them in the limelight because Because that is where they belong And donating is loving

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41:27 But listen, never fully heard Adam's theory on the alien presence here on Earth. Please share in full detail." Well I have a... we have something for the second half of this show that is a little like that but we're gonna go through Adam's whole theory. And lastly, I apologize if I bug you guys with my emails because Adam is always annoyed I just don't mean to agree with a lot of what you guys say because of my biblical education, even though you and I don't believe the same things. We're on the same page with where the country and planet are going. Get out The Red Book. I predict a global currency one world government and then it gets truncated. One world...I have a little bit. One-world religion even if that religion is science And if aliens come for us that will quicken the idea that salvation of mankind will come only through unity in something

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43:50 uh... this is not just some as unlike jokey thing we do yes that you go to the board dot org slash in a channel of work dot com slashing and a no agenda nation dot com and no agenda show dot com except with the chrome browser which is about their and help us so continue our efforts thanks let me thank you very much remember devolver dot or slash and pain donating his loving if u PR associates have checked in done a little bit of help the drone stuff seems to be quite popular as Websites at forward to know agenda show calm which can no longer reviewed in the Chrome browser Don't a drone dat home dot com dot net org and info droned at home So, okay usable save page as comm Like that one he has an idea here. The ultimate plan was save

44:49 SavePageAs.com is to build a service that you can enter URL and save it off with tags and everything, it'll be anonymous... Anonymous? Anonymous no logs will be kept and no requests to remove items will be accepted It will be hosted offshore Okay we're looking forward to that I like that idea! That's a good idea Yeah, because a lot of people always tell people this you know they say well here go look at you Somebody says look at this link. This is unbelievable what just happened the link It's dead You have to save page as very important Of course we talked about the change of these psychological operations as a department of the Department of Defense to the military intelligence support operations my so

45:37 And we now have mysops.com, which is good m-i-s-o-p-s dot com mysops dot com and my so drone dot com excellent glad those were not taken yet and of course We have the new triple X Top level domain which has just been released John the .xxx I think are very expensive aren't they? I believe there 125 bucks a pop well we are the proud owners of FEMA xxx Now forwarding to no agenda show calm. We can probably make more money with that yeah Can you imagine like we have Lucy Napolitano in like whips and chains and stuff?

46:20 They're kind of cool drone pilots jobs.com drone pilot jobs calm if you're looking to get a gig as a drone pilot you all automatically search in Google for drone pilot jobs comm and be shuttled off to the No agenda show website, and then finally from Valon Adam I hope you well really sorry haven't heard from me sooner The no agenda game is not done as well as I'd hoped remember he made an iPhone game and no agenda game Which actually is quite cool And I think what happened is it cost 99 bucks a year, you know to keep something up in the app store It's not like free. You have to be a developer. You have to be a current developer so they sending out their They're sending out their renewal notices

47:03 Anyway, the game's not done as well as I hoped and I couldn't send the money easily And I'm still a boner basically in a few months ago. I had an epiphany I could rewrite an unpublished game and donate that What he has done is he has given us a zip file of the entire game package it includes no agenda graphics sounds and it's ready to go, and that will be also linked in the show notes. 367.nashownotes.com You'll find it as na-game.zip So feel free to grab the code And go and make a... you know polish up the game Make your own game Have some fun with it so I thought that was kind of cool idea Open source gaming development here on No Agenda Right?

47:48 I love it. Yeah, I thought you did everyone else out there You do have a very important mission is to go out and propagate our formula Our formula is this we go out We hit people in the mouth So apparently the Republicans are trying to make hay with this Joe Biden gaffe Where he said? We're not actually fighting the Taliban yeah, and here's the classic example of how this how it's like

48:33 How it's played by some of these stooges including John McCain, the guy who would have been president. Play his clip and he is trying to answer a question that is about one thing and then he can't hold it back anymore million dollars by his departure because we were about again for the umpteenth time to try to bribe the North Koreans into abandoning their nuclear arsenal with millions of dollars in food aid which most of which as we find out goes into the hands of the elite and does not do anything to alleviate the suffering of the people of North Korea,

49:11 horrendous. We just saw the departure of one of the most brutal dictators in history, The people that can affect the situation in North Korea is not the United States it's a Chinese. The Chinese propped them up if the Chinese wanted them to act in a responsible way and move forward towards a democratic unified Korean Peninsula they could do that instead the Chinese continue to prop Monica, I don't mean to change the subject but the latest outrage of course is the vice president's statement that the Taliban is not our enemy. I've been flooded with comments and tweets... He brought on this show to talk about Kim Jong-il! Yeah And he goes off the tracks. He's an idiot. He's a total idiot By the way, I do feel bad for you

50:02 Personally, yeah and I got a lot of notes and people expressing their concern that you know one of your ultimate wishes in life would be to drink some of the Kim Jong-il's wine collection. I feel bad for ya. Yeah, I doubt if his kid, Kim Jung Un... What kind of name is that? And by the way how do you like the Kim Jong Il dying on a train? Yeah, yeah I don't want to laugh about someone dying but man the train. I got an interesting note and talking about that China from one of our producers You know a lot of people think he's been dead for a year. Oh yeah Adam John I live in Pallette City Missouri

50:48 Which is across the Missouri River about 10 miles from Leavenworth. I know you're familiar with what goes on in Leavenworth, but here's something you might not know many of my neighbors are very high up in the military and some I've learned are in the CIA Last night we had a cock this at the cut these aren't listeners dude This is good last night We had a cocktail party and I invited many of them I edged in with some crackpot stuff You got to be careful now next thing. I know we are toasting the Chinas I had them calling them the Chiners and they were in tears laughing so hard They understand how much of an issue the China's are becoming however when I said the proxy wars are going on And they're going to be more frequent because the economy needs to run in order to pay for the military heads swiveled

51:33 One guy leaned over in later in the night and said, war is coming between Israel and Iran. So naturally we'll have to help Israel out next year October he said. Whoa! Wow pretty big right? Pretty big and I think the Georgia thing plays into this Reports now, there was of course the Russian report. So this would be the October surprise? Well that's exactly what it is the surprise we have to go into war because no president in office has ever been voted out during war

52:09 So the game that has to be played out in Washington is to keep us from going for or keep Israel from doing whatever this is they're doing. Right, yeah and of course so you have two sides lined up you have the sides that go on and on about oh they got a nuke it's gonna go off we gotta stop them they've got to stop their development of the nuke and then you have the side saying they got no nuke well there's not developed if they don't even want a nuke well they're trying You know the I'd read defense dot aol.com which really should it means for the defense industry And it's and you know, its news from the perspective of guys who make a lot of money? You know building stuff that kills people and so there is actually An article here UN inspectors seek smoking gun in Iranian nuclear program and it goes into detail about how the iaia report Actually didn't have a smoking gun But now this is weird

53:03 In terms of the use of uranium metal, if you're doing work on nuclear weapons research at some point You might want to use natural uranium metal as a surrogate material when your testing To see whether or not your nuclear design will function properly Apparently Iran used tungsten As a surrogate for fissile- for a fissile core Tungsten? Really? What?! When did you not hear I'm not following this Okay So if you so they're trying to find some proof right? They're trying to find proof that Iran is building a nuclear weapon. And so now they're saying that if you're doing work on nuclear weapons research and you don't have like, uh You know some uranium metal hanging around because they don't use tungsten you use tungsten answers heavy It's like uranium is right. So now they're showing

54:02 how now basically you watch for the report Iran has been acquiring tungsten. You watch for the report and before somebody should twist that story this you say they're requiring tungsten to bring back one of our old stories which is yes it is too mixed with gold Or to gold plate and sell as gold bars. That's why it caught my eye, I'm like wow! Yeah no, every time i hear tungsten that catches my eye too because of that gold thing So they're just trying to do it but they can't...I think the whole thing will start we'll have uh the israeli drones which of course we build in Georgia because that is what Secretary of State Lucifer Clinton is going to go sell which is already in the National Defense Authorization Act It has been approved

54:49 And that is going to be sold to Georgia, and I think that's where the attack on Iran will come from so they only have To overfly or they want them to really overfly they can go around what's next to Georgia? Is it an edger by John Isaac Rijon yeah They only have to fly around it So that is not for the Russians. That's that's the kickoff the war but I think you know this is It was pretty sad I think the October surprise, it's really going to happen. Doing everything they can and tying in Syria everywhere they can Is there anything in the New York Times on Syria today? I don't have the paper since I've been watching this state Because the Arab League is now saying... They have all these shocking images of violence and child abuse And they're torturing children and killing children We've heard this script before

55:43 And everywhere you turn on the BBC, you find this Syrian Observatory for Human Rights. You can find them at syriahr.com So I'm looking into this Syrian Observatory for Human Rights which by the way is an awesome name We need to have a name like that Just put no agenda observatory for human rights. Yeah, I mean as long as you have human rights in your title somewhere You're good to go and They are an extension of Al Jazeera In fact their live blog is hosted by al-jazeera Oh really? oh yeah there And so you know if you're a part of al jazeera then you essentially are a mouthpiece for the Arab League and i'm looking at this website and registered in 2006

56:31 And we know from the WikiLeaks cables that the State Department funneled as much as $6 million into a number of Syrian opposition NGOs in 2006. So this is totally financed operation, but every single day there's on the BBC in particular there's another guy who works for the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights and people don't question who these guys are There's no question and they're in London. They're not in Syria, they are in London! And no one questions them at all and it just like here is the authority you know why? Because of the cool name Observatory for Human Rights so we should be the No Agenda Observatory. Do have any names or people involved in this? I'm sorry? Do we have any names besides Al Jazeera

57:23 You can't it's more of those names that when you google them then it's impossible to find Okay. Oh, yeah those names that are no Yeah, Al Shabab there was a lot going on with Al Shabab now I'm talking about al-aww really Big Al Shabbat remember Djibouti we were talking about Djibouti and Yeah. Oh, one of our producers did a lot of work on that. Djibouti! The reason why we have all this money going to Djibouti? This little pimple of a country in Africa? Yes it's more like a city-state. Yeah well that's where we have a huge drone base. Oh okay... That's where we launch the drones from. Duh another Djibouti drone everybody so obvious

58:22 So I'm listening to a couple of interesting... Actually, we want to kind of transition into the EU for a minute. Oh good! uh... this came up there apparently a i was blue baffled by the sovereign rights uh... commentaries that took place on cnbc w's of fast talk fast track whatever school to show the overnight showing the city and by the way it's the nbc world which is what it is really good so much better than then the propaganda the cmt see in states isn't they have some actual people on them don't question if it's like okay

58:58 You know, that sounds about right. So play sovereign rights! Seeing here now in the Eurozone he's actually warning us that... I like her this is the crazy Norwegian chick with a pointy hairdo? Yeah What's her name again I don't know. It has catastrophic results if the eurozone would fall apart, if Europe would fall apart because that would as well mean that we can't really compete with emerging markets like Asia and as well the United States and other regions in the world which are growing very fast and that is the main point Ackermann is saying and that we as well should give up sovereign rights um...in order to save that eurozone and with that I'm sending it back over to you

59:39 Well, what don't you understand? Well she says this but then if you play the second clip where he uh the British guy makes a comment It's quite interesting because it brought a brought up a definition issue with me Okay, I was really enjoying that you because I was kind of getting what you're saying What Joseph Ackerman is saying then it is not that there should be a renaissance of a European spirit But a renaissance of federal Europe. I think they are two very different things but I guess that's probably where he's coming from the Renaissance and Okay, so he says it's a he made the comment of federal Europe. Mm-hmm Which is what I always thought they were kind of going for anyway But I didn't realize that the British have their own definition of federal and so when he said it It wasn't like as a good thing

1:00:27 The British actually think of a federated Europe as not what we think of as a federal system, where you have separation of states that all have their own powers which were losing by the way and in a balanced government. In British parlance federated Europe and that's why he said it in a condescending manner means a European super state, a giant dictatorship. Right Right, yes. But I mean it's interesting because we can't... by letting the word federated or federal Europe go into the parlance is something what Americans will never perceive that as necessarily a bad thing. Ah okay well you know it's interesting you bring this up

1:01:12 because I was watching Haiku Herman, president of the United States of Europe. And he does this like half Christmas message which by the way how rude is that if you're the president of the United States of Europe and there's no happy Hanukkah? There's nothing about Kwanzaa. It's only Christmas. Or Festivus by the way. Yeah festivis exactly or solstice whatever And so he's now calling for a new meeting. We have to have a new meeting on the 30th of January because, of course that's around the 30th of January I think we'll be at the crisis stage again. So he is preparing for it but he also uses some really interesting federalist language that I think... just bear with me and listen to it and you will hear it. Hello Heiko! Welcome to the Meeting Room of the European Council of Heads of State or Government

1:02:06 This room is empty now. But it's very busy during our meetings and last time our discussions lasted even throughout the night. We had to work at night! By the way, what is a hat of state? Is that like something they wear as a... Yeah just a whole bunch of hats yeah It's like a bunch of hipsters Are you making fun of his pronunciation again John Wait until you hear about his grossness. Next summit is already scheduled for 30 January. Dirty January, is the date. It will be focused on jobs and that's a big challenge in the context where zero growth is expected of most of our economies In some of them there will even be a recession We must take strong action on employment

1:02:58 Bringing financial stability to the Eurozone remains absolutely key for our future. We have taken major decisions this year to overcome the sovereign debt crisis. Sovereign debt crisis, now okay we're getting into it! Almost all our member states are engaged in huge reform programs aiming at more competitiveness for our companies and much sounder public finances There is a social way out of the crisis. Very important, there's a social way out of the crisis which I think means we're going to take society's money At the level of the Union you are helping monitoring and surveilling Don't you love that at the level of the union up here Starfleet command were way above all your little stupid social minions Oh this guy is such an A-hole It's a joint effort The path is long

1:03:50 What? The legacy of our founding fathers. Wow! I mean, did he like... That's a beauty. That's a great catch Did he like take a presidential speech from the American? I mean this is founding fathers It was just the founding fathers of the EU it's a bunch of bureaucrats Listen The legacy of our founding fathers A continent of peace democracy and prosperity Where were you?!

1:04:32 peace prosperity and I don't know a couple of people got hurt here and there. Wow, that's just lying this isn't this is not a legacy of peace and prosperity it's a legacy of war and destruction or did I totally read the wrong book? The legacy of our founding fathers I won't play the Christmas bit, it's just annoying. No no, play! Oh okay. It is too impressive. Impressive? We have a moral duty to continue this mission we owe this in the first place to our fellow Europeans like many of you i will celebrate christmas at home with my family yes and this time for the very first time

1:05:17 with my granddaughter. I'm convinced that she and all other young Europeans will grow up in a vibrant and lively European Union to all of you, I wish her Merry Christmas and the happy start of the new year. And to all a good night! The legacy of the founding fathers who were the founding fathers of Europe George Washington the founding fathers of Europe. The guy is insane there's a Wikipedia entry here we go I'm sure you've heard of these guys strictly speaking seven politicians

1:06:04 were key in launching the European construction. They played a key role, which means what? They showed up for lunch? Surely you've heard of Konrad Adenauer? Yes well Conrad he's the only famous name on there Joseph Beck Johan Willem Buyen? Oh, he's a Dutch guy. Let me see who that guy was... let me see. I don't even know who he is. Yeah! A Dutch banker. Okay, no need to look any further. Dutch banker?! Really?? Oh, finally father! A banker! A Dutch banker! Yeah! Alcide de Gaspari from Italy? Who was he? Was he a banker too?

1:06:47 They call him one of the founding fathers. Wow, I had no idea this is an actual badge of honor. Jean Monnet? Is that the painter? He's considered to be the chief architect. Kind of like Sergei. The Sergei of the EU. Robert Schuman from France. Independent political thinker and activist. Okay, and Paul-Henri Spack. Who is that? He's from a distinguished Belgian family. Socialist. All right well there you go there's your founding fathers they should put them on the euro coins yeah they should and on the banknotes Konrad Adenauer so we all can salute him and refer to him as uh the Founding Fathers interesting all right So I stand corrected they have founding fathers

1:07:53 I think this is a construct. Explain? I think this is dreamed up as, uh...I think they felt the need to have founding fathers. I don't know when this took place but let's take a look at where's the wiki discussion When did this page for example crop-up on Wikipedia Oh there you go now we were doing some This is the kind of work that we do all the time by the way although we never do it together which is kinda interesting But this is exactly how it works as when I when I see people debating a bill on television. I go and read the bill So I can understand what it's really about When we see something crop up you see something you got to consult a something You gotta consult the book of knowledge You got to consult the book of knowledge, I mean it's worth it

1:08:43 So often people will send me links to stuff. I'm like, wow man... This seems to have been created in 2007 The page? Well that's it! That was when the founding fathers were recognized. Somebody J Logan created the page they have a wiki has a timeline you can access created the page with the founding fathers of the European Union number of men who Ben recognizes me. So what they've done, they probably had a meeting at the EU. What are we doing? We gotta have some founding fathers here. We got to follow some models that work. Now can you click on that guy's link and see what other pages he has created? J Logan Yeah That is always fun thing to do By the way, we're teaching him He is an EU guy But what other pages has he created It's harder to determine just quickly Oh well it doesn't make any sense I can see all this crap he's done

1:09:42 Well while you're looking at that a couple other euro land all your ozone stuff. Yeah, of course he works in the EU building It's his job He is the ministry of truth go and create the founding fathers okay? What we put in there I don't know put a banker in throw in a socialist And make sure they're from different countries and make sure you got one from Belgium and one from Luxembourg because that's where We got our building so they gotta make that all look good Yeah, make sure it's a French guy. Make sure it is German for sure otherwise you're never going to get any work. What about an Italian guy? Throw an Italian in. Is there an Italian on the list? Mm-hmm Okay we got the Italian covered what about let's see... The Swiss guys that we can't put it there's obviously none of them We don't even need to know who they are. We already have the Dutch banker and don't worry about it. So yeah, the Dutch banker we got. What about our British guys their British guy in there no They don't count that's why they're out. Oh! The British guy has been left out No wonder they feel snubbed

1:10:33 They're not one of the founding fathers. Meanwhile, let me see we had a banker take over Greece We have a Goldman Sachs guy running the European Central Bank We have another Goldman Sachs guy running Italy now we have a new prime minister in Spain And that is a foreman Lehman Brothers banker. You can't write this stuff, you really can't but the European Central Bank and this is why the Lehman thing was interesting to me came out with a statement and I'll read this statement to you positive market responses to European measures aimed at stemming the crisis appeared to have been short-lived This is the European Central Bank The Federal Reserve of Europe

1:11:31 Indeed, a bumpy ratification process appears to have contributed to additional market uncertainties. At the same time downward revisions to the outlook for macroeconomic growth contributed to a lower shock absorption capacity of euro area financial institutions." And here it comes Ultimately, the transmission of tensions among sovereigns across banks and between the two intensified to take on systemic crisis proportions not witnessed since the collapse of Lehman Brothers three years ago. So does that mean that it's going to be worse? A lot of people think it might be we're gonna have a huge like Lehman I mean they actually bringing up the collapse of Lehman Brothers as the outlook from the European Central Bank

1:12:21 Wow. Hey, you already got our founding fathers do you have to have our crises as well? Really? Can't you make a deal everything is like this is like Microsoft taking ideas from Apple. Yeah Meanwhile in the barony of Steven Pels markers are our Baron and patron from Belgium things are not good We had a huge strike In Belgium trains metros buses What else we have no mail delivery The public television was stopped broadcasting. They only were broadcasting like a couple of people sitting in the glass house, bitching at each other. Hospitals and police forces are on Sunday rosters so the place has fallen apart because people are like so angry about the austerity measures they're saying no we're not going to do this and then even better than that

1:13:22 In the Czech Republic, more than 15 thousand Czechs when they registered to vote. They registered as Knights of the Jedi. I didn't get this one. As their religion and proclaimed their allegiance to Luke Skywalker It is now an official religion in the Czech Republic

1:13:58 15,070 inhabitants registered as Knights of the Jedi. I think we should do that! We should be knights of the Jedi and by the way easy on taking our knight stuff will ya? And furthermore actually they'll get they'll be getting a phone call from Lucas yeah hey you can't do that man it's copyrighted yeah you can't do that you owe me money Yeah, you owe me money. I've got enough money Dutch defense minister Hans Hillen is now pushing through a an idea which has a lot of support apparently for compulsory community service for all teenagers in Gitmo Nation lowlands they feel that all teenagers should perform at least one year of useful community work whether in health care the environment or military

1:14:49 Yeah, that's useful community work. Military! Ahillan said this investment would teach youngsters that society also belongs to them So we're seeing that here too, of course this was a meme that Obama ran on the community service thing. And I'm thinking about this during the last real big depression not the Depression in 1970 but the Depression in 1930 through 1940 they put people to work and like the Civilian Conservation Corps or the Works Project Administration the WPA and all these other things but they paid them

1:15:27 And they were doing community work, community service. They were building putting the bridges up and all this other stuff but they paid them! Right Now we're just trying to get them to work for free like slaves Well yeah I mean what's happening and this is happening in Gitmo Nation East in the UK as well if you have social benefits That's when, oh hold on what is happening here don't do this. If you're on social benefit then they're going to make you work that's the whole idea Yeah it's a form of slave labor I mean you could say that well we are not gonna give you social benefits but will give you this job and pay you Right That's different which is you I could rationalize seeing them doing that but they don't do that They almost as though as if they have two options

1:16:19 Look, we're going to give these people free money because they are down and out. But we're gonna make them work so they realize they are slaves or process number two... We're not gonna give many social benefits because you're down and out but were gonna give a job that have to take which will pay them for and it'll be called the Works Project Administration something like that but then won't realized They won't fully realized that their slaves So which way do they go? They go with the, let's make sure they know where their place is. Right. It just you know it's not great analysis it's just... I think this is the president of the Deutsche Bank here and for us Europe is not only our destiny its also our desire. Its a lesson we learned and so please understand for us Europe is much more than currency or single market What?!

1:17:22 Yes, no matter what the consequences. That guy freaks me out.

1:17:58 that could pretty much keep the Chinese and Americans at bay. It was a mechanism for selling stuff, it was a capitalistic mechanism now it's changed into a political thing- This has always been the point! And of course we discovered this when we read the actual Lisbon Treaty documents in what was that John 2008? Yeah 2008 We discovered there was all poppycock None of this was, this is all set up and designed and it's all exactly the way it was supposed to go by the founding fathers. By the way including the Dutch banker. This is the whole point but it's unstoppable that's the problem It's unstoppable I don't know what to do about it There's nothing we can do about it. What's unstoppable is they're going to have a civil war

1:18:54 Because this isn't gonna continue because the public is not ready for a one-world government loss of sovereignty. I mean, imagine... The French! The French are so French that's all they do you know we're French French French I mean they make a big deal out of it now they're gonna be what? Telling the Germans are gonna tell them how to make cheese? That cheese is so stinky! You must not make stinky cheese no more This is what we have been pining for, for many years. We have been before the stinky cheese crisis and now we have the power in Europe that the French will no longer make stinky cheese and stop eating the snails! It could go that way man Yeah it could? That's exactly where its headed So there's a interesting little crisis in Spain that was shown on one of the talk shows Play Stolen Babies

1:19:53 Oh my goodness. Their child may be alive! For years there had been whispers, but now an unbelievable story was exploding in the press. Allegations that for decades organized networks stole newborn babies from their mothers and sold the babies to other families Back in January, more than 250 families filed cases with Spain's Attorney General demanding investigations. The number has grown since today nearly 1500 cases have been filed. This is a famous doctor if anyone is responsible for prompting all this Wow

1:20:37 So it turns out that, and you can play Stolen Babies to it until you get sick of listening to it. And it turns out that since the Franco administration right until like I guess the mid 80s These hospitals would, a family would have twins and the doctor come out an say oh we're so sorry. One of your one of the two twins died Wow! And they say Oh did I see it? No no it's so traumatizing you do really don't want to see that dead baby wow this is horrible I'll listen to two. To report systematic baby stealing yes you've investigated this for so many years can you say without a doubt

1:21:16 that babies were stolen in Spain. From the 40s until 80s as a minimum, We can talk about children that were kidnapped from their families, from their mothers. Stolen babies? Yes. Ninos robados. Armingo and her team found the practice began after fascist dictator Francisco Franco seized power during Spain's civil war of the late 1930s The government would remove children from mothers who were political prisoners and give them to families who supported the regime

1:21:54 this start like a political repression? But then it goes over the years from being a political thing to really being economic, to being a business. Yes Money starts to change hands. large sums thousands of dollars were paid for the babies Spain was an ultra conservative society dominated by the Catholic Church and nuns or doctors were often key players. And who's getting that money? The nuns, the doctors, the church? Little by little all together yes all of them yeah well reptilians have to eat something

1:22:33 So they actually did a lot. Most of these people are still alive and wow, I mean we're getting the mob with the you know the angry mob is well Of course, but all of your this stuff is rampant this This is so it's so discouraging in The Netherlands that something else a crisis as well which haven't heard over here They released a report And it turns out that the Roman Catholic Church in the Netherlands the clergy for over a period of 40 years has been molesting children. They believe 20,000 children and many of these guys are still alive and still practicing." And it was like oh well they won't do it anymore It's okay you wouldn't have to throw anybody in jail and people are outraged by this. You know what gets me? The church's reaction to all this stuff is that the Pope

1:23:35 he called these guys out and excommunicated them because most of these Catholic priests are very serious about their religion but there's nobody wants to be excommunicated it's a huge you go to hell basically yeah that's not good where where's the big list of the why don't they bring these guys out to me before Charlie bring him out on charges that your excommunicate whatever the process is and throw him out and put him into that limbo and let him deal with it I have not heard of anyone being excommunicated for any of this stuff. Have you? No You don't even know what it means but I... Yeah, it does because... Excuse me

1:24:12 What kind of snide comment was that? I don't know, you knew it. Excommunication is not talked about much and i don't think everyone knows what its all about but it's a big deal to Catholics and I dont see why these guys arent excommunicated left and right in this whole they found the nun who stole one of the babies and threatened the woman uh... that other story obviously didnt play the whole thing the woman was suspicious and she says if you say anything, you know, she basically threatened her with being...with ruination. None should be excommunicated immediately! I don't..I'm not understanding why this isn't happening

1:24:48 Because it's all sanctioned by the Catholic Church, John. I mean do you really not understand that? That Pete O'Bear is rampant in the Vatican amongst all governments The elites of this world eat babies for energy It's like you know...I have like a Luna bar You know they're gonna use it and let me eat this baby This is-this is-the occult is for real dude Yeah dude Dude I'm sorry didn't mean to dude you That was not nice of me. But yeah, the more I hear about this stuff the more I just have to believe it! So let's move on... staying in the European side of the ocean

1:25:28 Pierce Morgan, I think you're...you know you had this suspicion about Pierce Morgan. Oh that he ran away to America to avoid...yeah I saw this...that he ran away to America to avoid prosecution for basically being the founding father of phone hacking? Yeah we can play a little bit of this grilling Pierce Morgan clip but i want to mention something that I thought was as soon as I saw this I said oh! This is funny He's testifying before the tribunal on Skype Yeah, well or at some video conference. He will not be and I first thing I thought he's not gonna go to England and get arrested No

1:26:04 They're gonna have to extradite him and that's a process they're not going to go through because it's too much work. So he's not moving at all No, he's not He's not gonna go back to England until this blows over but we can play little Piers Morgan You know that you see what it's like is a very boring stuff It's definitely under the category real news But I did catch myself because it was on C-SPAN. I mean CSPAN isn't playing That why don't call it Real News tap in the standard four-digit code to hear all your messages. I'll change mine just in case, but it makes me wonder how many public figures and celebrities are aware of this little trick? When were you first made aware of this little trick? Well according to this Friday 26th January 2001 Were you aware of it before? Not as far as I'm aware no Who made you aware of this little trick

1:26:58 I have no idea. The tooth fairy? It was ten years ago and I can't remember Can you assist at all with the context, um... If you look for like well the start of the entry which deals with something else altogether just refresh your memory Okay he's gonna stop it So anyway I have to go on my rant He drags on and on with these guys trying to get him to-I don't know what they're trying to get him to do because he's not going to do it admit guilt but I didn't realize because this happened started in 2001 the phone hacking that all the phones shipped in Europe had a default password code for getting the phone mail. Not all, but every network has their own default passcode. Yeah I know but say you had there's a limited number of networks But I was under impression because now he says well you know if type in four letter code and hear their messages which could be bonanza if your reporter to be honest about it

1:27:56 But I would it was just but that I find it so mundane they the hack You know just type in some you know, so this is like having there in the early days of the Wi-Fi networks everybody You know They're all the networks were wide open because there was no for security like there is today So you can get on anybody's network and be on the internet pretty easily but I always because we did this show on the x3 show that the Engo and and and Eisner were there, and Engel had this long convoluted methodology. There's really complicated ways to cracking into somebody's phone than in Tattails getting them to pick up the phone to put it into a busy mode then you do this they do that and you get their password in some very black hat manner. And I hear what actually happened! I should have thought to myself these guys can't dream of anything like that they were just putting in the default hoping for the best

1:28:51 So, the easiest way actually and I think that has now been stopped is to spoof the caller ID where essentially you make the call make it look like it's coming from your own number they don't even need a password or didn't. That's the way used to work but right but the point that irks me and I know you're not falling into the trap We have all these conversations about who listening and we have it's on C-SPAN. It is taking a valuable time, like something important is going to happen this the British Parliament in quest that everyone's looking at this but meanwhile the government is sucking up all of your information all of your data they run Facebook they lie to you they run all the media

1:29:32 They're constantly checking your voicemail, messages, email. Your Twitter accounts everything and no one gives a crap! Oh but when it's Hugh Grant... This is what really really really pisses me off We should have an inquisition about that. That's what you should be talking about and people in Europe who accept this, and get Monation East, I think it is less than we believe it is... There are cameras everywhere! There are cameras in your trash bins They're looking at everything Blackberry has given all of the decryption codes so that people can check your emails Everything

1:30:15 It's crazy. This is such a distraction from what's really going on, that you are living in the police state and you were meant to be made angry about Pierce idiot douchebag Morgan who somehow... He was such a hacker that he listened to Hugh Grant about him kissing some girl! Who gives a crap?! You already did this rant a second ago and you played the jingle Well, you made me kind of angry that you bring this up. It was interesting to me my point was that there wasn't much hacking going on it was just somebody putting in a default code and listening the message casually... And what kind of messages? Who leaves voicemail messages for anyone anymore who does that yeah well you're still missing my point but now I understand your point don't leave me a voicemail message ever

1:31:13 I send text messages to you. Yeah, of great importance! Turn on C-SPAN 3 now! Well...I don't...I'm not a big fan of leaving these complicated messages on devices Of course not But it just gets me For one thing half the time nobody picks them up but anyway that's another story yeah No the government spying on everything you do And nobody cares That's my problem Uhh..I care Yeah well....yeah.....I care New game coming out in 2013 based on the Tom Clancy novel, Rainbow Six Patriots is the name of the game. Have you seen the trailer for this game John? No I have not! So of course these gaming consoles and all these in-depth first person shooter completely almost virtual reality games are preconditioning for our children

1:32:08 And in this particular scene, I'll play the audio it's about a minute. You see a couple guys in suits burst into a banker's office. I will narrate as we go along. First we get... Product not yet rated Not yet rated So you see these guys walking through a banker office They're in suit but they got all kinds of This is the day we've been waiting for Guns Years of training Years of sacrifice This is for the jobs you streamlined The debts you collected They bust into the guy's door. So they grab this banker... They put explosives on a belt, they throw him out the window, of course they-

1:33:07 And he's almost on the ground in New York City and they detonate his belt. So... Ubisoft once again What? So this is a Tom Clancy story? Apparently Huh. So they bust into the banker's office, they grab the guy at gunpoint They strap on an explosive belt They shoot out of window They throw the guy out the window like The 50th Story or whatever They watch him go down and just before he hits the taxi cabs down below in New York City they detonate his belt And everything explodes down below Because there are the Patriots What kind of a message is this? Well... 2013 I almost can't wait

1:33:59 Can't they get it out earlier? We need the violence now. Yeah, yeah... Call Ubisoft! These guys gotta work faster. This is all sublimation you know people get down on the banker so they play this game and they feel that they've accomplished something by killing the virtual banker in a dumb game That's all it amounts to as far as I'm concerned Yeah but its kind of not okay No it's like the punching bag thats you know Japanese corporations will have a punching bag with the bosses head down in the basement and any employee who feels like can go down there punch the boss in the head. You know, then they feel better. Don't we have some Adam & John punching balls you can punch us? It'd be good premium. We hit people in the face which we should be doing now I've got to uh let's mention some of our donors if you want to bring up this. I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda imagine all the people who could deal with that oh yeah that would be fab

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1:41:01 Well, I think we need a butter drive. Well we need to buy butter drive for Norway and they're just that not that far from France which has got some of the greatest but or Ireland's got good butter so what are they using instead margarine or oil? They're just using...I don't know they don't do no big olive oil users What do they cook with? Yak fat is the next thing on their list. Yak Fat! Okay yeah Reindeer drippings And here's where you say i've had some yak fat it was really quite tasty Yum. Anyway, onward Adrian Turner and Hove South East Sussex double nickels on the dime in the morning JNA thank you for your outstanding efforts recently here's my small contribution towards bread for your tables may I

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1:45:57 I said you do a whole show with pod free license songs. Yeah, but a lot of it just sucks is not the whole point The whole point is I like going down memory road and playing 60 70 80s You know, it's fun stuff and yeah, I'm just not into a lot of now No, I can't. Yeah, I could we need a listener that works at ASCAP that can Forget about it. You can't, it's impossible to do that is impossible to do you can't license off the podcasters to keep Podcasters from doing exactly what and just end the streamers and everybody if you can't do this gamers everybody no I agree It's a scam um it's perfect now to make an example out of me. I can't do it Can't yeah so until that changes he can't do it

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1:48:20 Slash na and channel of org comm slash na for Continued support we will be running a clip show on Sunday But we did doesn't mean we should And we will be thanking everybody in the next Thursday for their donations from between now and then And the Clip Show is just lots of clips from stuff that we've played over the years on the show. Not us necessarily, but clips of stuff. Probably it's going to be only your clips I mean how did you even get my clips? You didn't ask me for them! You didn't have any clips during this era until like last year and a half or so Oh i'm sorry its The John Clip Show It's The John Clip Show but these are clips that we discussed So do you have like the McChrystal in there

1:49:04 I got some crystal material. You've got Wesley Clark in there? I'm sorry, what? Wesley Clark about... No that's the clip it would be nice to drop in but no there are a lot of clips we don't have. We must have like 1000 hours of clips. I just grabbed the clips that try and make so the clip that falls you remember the movie uh... with um... mike myers replayed this by what's his name austin powers most of our story where they were the big with it things that looks like a and then make cut to a hot dog in the next you know that can't think we're the clips try to act as comedy shape them a little bit it's comedy

1:49:42 It doesn't, well that remains to be seen. Okay well John put a lot of work into it I know that. Well here's where the work comes in. I got a clip that is 13 seconds and then I add a 2 second clip and then I add 5 seconds clip and there is 20 second clips. These clips aren't very long so there are another 30 I could go hours and only piece together like three minutes. These clips are too short! You don't have long clips. No, the thing took you like two and a half years. You've been threatening this clip show forever. I have. I've been threatening it for a long time... ...and you still won't like it

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1:50:57 I'll try it again. Stefan Reimschusel from London, fine British name he celebrates on Saturday Christmas Eve on the 24th and Kristen Morgan congratulates her boyfriend Andrew Johnson in South San Francisco He is celebrating his birthday today Happy Birthday on behalf of all your buddies here at the entire back office at The Noah Jedner Show! And then we have... it's nice. We haven't had some nights in what, four weeks now I think? It's been about four weeks? We haven't had any nights for a couple of weeks Yeah, a couple of week so let me just uh...

1:51:36 It's a little rusty. Hasn't been used in a long time. Mine stuck! There you go, we got it. Alright Spike step forward Paul the Book Guy and Armin Breuer kneel before the deus And extend your ring fingers all of you will be receiving the official knight of the... Ring of the Knights of the Noah gender roundtable and You receive your knighthoods today I hereby pronounce thee Sir Spike Sir Paul and sir Armin now all nights of the Noah Jenner roundtable hookers and blow red boys Chardonnay and hot pants and booze at your disposal right here and a little bit of eggnog. So as we begin the second half of the show, yes I have ever ran into this show there were there's the 2012 thing And we're headed toward 2012 obviously

1:52:33 we're gonna do of course in the... In fact yesterday was one year until the world evaporates. Yeah and so I was watching this thing and there's this one, the crackpots are good.. This next year by the way when I kind of clue people in what the show is going to be like for the next year For the next year we are going to have some of the craziest stories because of this 2012 thing And I'd like to know how this 2012 thing became such a Huge phenomenon, okay. I just like to know I don't know oh well because the destruction of the world not that not that we're gonna blow up and And melt or anything like that But the financial destruction of the world has been well planned in advance the elite Would you would you like me to finish my? No, I'm sorry go ahead once should we just play the clip show now then no no This has been planned for a long time

1:53:33 I don't know if it's going to be exactly December 21st, but then we slip in the Mayan calendar thing which is always great and just became a meme. You know? Everyone just pegging this date... It's stupid! Okay well we have you the clip i'm gonna start with his UFOs meet 2012. Gerald has teamed up with survivalist Louis de Cordier they aim to build a doomsday proof community in the Sierra Nevada mountains of Spain That is not right clip I don't believe Is that UFOs meet 2012 or is that 2012 aside or part two? No, I'm sorry. You're right and had the wrong one queued up you're right here we go And i think one of the things you'll find on the internet is that much of the 2012 mythology um...is tied together with other conspiracy theory Peter Gersten is a criminal lawyer living in Arizona who made a name for himself studying UFOs he's bought into a wild conspiracy theory that goes like this

1:54:32 Human beings exist in a computer program. And on December 21st, 2012 at 1111 AM the exact time of the winter solstice the current program shuts down I can tell you what's going to happen and what i believe is going to happen but I'm still receiving information about it Gersten believes he's received a sign that he has been chosen for a mission. To jump off Bell Rock in Sedona, Arizona at the exact moment of the solstice and if he does... He can save the world! And I'm not doing it out of desperation or despondency. In other words, I'm not...I'm doing it because I believe that I need to do it to help my children, to help my grandchildren, to help all carbon-based life forms if..if....and If I am wrong? Everybody dies! Wait a minute, wait what is he going to do to save the world?! He's going to literally jump off a cliff. Ha ha ha, cool. That'll help

1:55:32 Okay, mm-hmm. I do think that there is something going on with how Our brains are communicating better with you know brain-to-brain waves and all that I'm a total believer in that stuff And that we are moving into the age of Aquarius, and the things will change in the earth is changing It's in constant change But total doom and destruction now. I highly doubt that okay play part two where he goes on with his little love What he's going to do this guy what put now? Now I need to know what it is 2 2012 part 2 so we missed the part 1

1:56:08 No, that was part one. I got it. Gersten calls it his leap of faith and he's encouraging others to make their own leap What if you have teenagers following? You know, It could be a justification for an insane act but I'm not responsible for anybody else everybody has their own responsibility At 1111 am Gersten says a portal in the sky will open And if he leaps through it The prophecies of doom will be undone But before he sets things right, Gersten hopes to make a little money. And it'd be nice if it was documented and recorded. It would be nice if I anticipate that and say okay let's do it now and lets make some money because there probably are things that I need to do that will take funds

1:57:08 And there's the rub. It wouldn't be Doomsday without money being made, and 2012 is shaping up to be a bonanza! I agree with that What was this on? What are you watching? You know...I'm regretful that I did not I didn't take a careful note to say where this came from but i think it was National Geographic or one of these, one of these onetime educational channels and by the way whatever happened to these channels? The Learning Channel, National Geographic, the History Channel they've all gone to just junk programming.

1:57:45 No, that is also a part of the 2012. You know you are being mind-controlled and you in particular today It's really shown through I mean the Pierce Morgan and now this then people are being mind controlled by television There's no doubt about it. Yeah What is wrong? Would you like your tea? Auntie auntie uncle John wants his tea he's ringing his bell And you have to go I want my tea See, I thought you were going to go into the ECAT thing which everyone is talking about. Now go! You take it The ECAT thing is pretty cool This is the energy catalyzer Which Andrea Rossi invented And uh... It's a device in which hydrogen gas powered nickel metal and a catalyst of which I don't know what the catalyst is are combined produce a large amount of heat

1:58:43 And he announced this several years ago and he just came out with it. Everyone's talking about it, there is a whole bunch of interesting... I mean you can't really check the validity of the demonstrations of it but there is a whole website e-catworld which maybe that's the joke, I don't know. No but its pretty spectacular stuff! It's like some kind of low energy nuclear reactor I know you should take a look at it John. I mean, I'd love to hear your real unbiased Ecat world Andrea Rosie's cold fusion Yeah, e dash cat world yeah the guy comes across is pretty legit I mean all the alternative energy zealots myself included are Pretty excited about it and it produces heat and of course with the heat then you can create steam And then with that you can do a whole bunch of stuff

1:59:38 So I don't know that's uh, you know. I've always believed that we're being screwed with the oil thing is just like good way to make money because there's free energy out there zero point energy mm-hmm so yeah well I think people should just you know they just cut themselves off from the grid and Just do this zero point stuff at their house now to worry about it So while you were watching... I think nobody's doing that by the way. Like none of these guys who got all these crazy ideas is actually powering it. Well they usually, a lot of them get killed or disappeared or suicided. Oh yeah they get killed and that what it is? They get suicided. So while you were doing all that there was a new... this is so disgusting We've been following Haiti for two years we just passed the 2 year anniversary didn't we

2:00:28 The two years, or is it coming up now? Yeah I think it's just over two years as we speak. Yeah the Haitian earthquake billions of dollars estimates between four and six billion dollars raised we had that huge concert We had you know all everywhere around the world people were raising money for Haiti and of course we still have hundreds of thousands of people in tent camps with they were pooping their guts out Because instead of the money they got, what is it called? Cholera. That's right. Brought in by the UN workers. Yeah we gave them cholera instead of anything useful. By the way how does that work? How do you as a UN worker

2:01:10 get cholera in the first place. You've got to be sick as a dog, but you're showing up? I mean... These people were poisoned and then we have Kim Kardashian going to Haiti and it's just gonna be a great vacation place We've talked about this i don't have to rehash it Over and over again. We said the Clintons are behind this is bullcrap I don't even believe the earthquake was natural occurrence It was pretty coincidental first one in 80 years on somewhere where there was never a known fault, okay? Whatever And I want to really like Sean Penn Because I do think he has boots on the ground and he's really trying to help but then it comes out with this fundraiser

2:01:50 And I'm really annoyed by this thing called CrowdRise. Here's the first commercial and it's Miley Cyrus, it's Sarah Silverman It's all the typical Hollywood actors and musicians and LL Cool J And oh let's go raise some more money for Haiti Home means many things to many people. Home is what I miss when i'm away. Home is freedom. Home for me, it's being in my gym working out with the music blasting. Home is where I have people around me that only love me and want the best for me. Home is where my babies are. Home is where I can pull down my pants and be like What is this? Is this something do I need to go to the doctor for? Still Sarah Silverman is funny though. Dreaming is not so much a right as it is a human need And without home

2:02:39 There's little else to dream about. On January 12, 2010 2 million people were displaced by the earthquake in Haiti It is two years later and there are still hundreds of thousands of people living in tent cities JPHRO has treated over 100 thousand patients brought in over a hundred thousand pounds of medical supplies And delivered over 1,000 babies The organization is committed to give children a place to read and write. So the kids can have food on the table, A place to celebrate life Now is Haiti's magic moment Help us help Haiti home Go to crowdrise.com And donate! Get involved, get the word out

2:03:25 So I look at this crowdrise.com slash Haiti and this CrowdRise thing is very annoying, and uh...and-and i think it's bad because what this is a fundraising website where you can register your charity And when people donate, then they get points and they can redeem these points for clothing material hats and t-shirts and crap made in China. Gamified it? Yeah. Well here's Sarah's thank you for mentioning that here is Sarah Silverman playing into the game. You go to CrowdRise.com forward slash Haiti page click on whatever my thing is there going to be a thing where you can click on my page of it

2:04:11 And then once you donate, you're entered into a raffle of people who donated on my page. It's disgusting! So they've gamified it which is a big deal because that's how it goes viral and so I want to find out about this CrowdRise organization and they have no financial...it's a commercial company and here's how they do it First of all, if you want to start you have to get an account. So you can get the free basic account which I don't think gives you much but then you have the featured accounts so if you wanna be featured you pay $299 a year, $499 for Royale Account and then each transaction they charge

2:05:04 Prices ranging from a flat 4.95% to 5%. Charge on each donation, what does PayPal charge? Not necessarily that much. I mean they charge maybe five percent of really small numbers but it's i think generally speaking less Or a 5% charge on each donation plus $1 transaction fee on donations under $25 and a $2.50 transaction fee on donations 25 dollars and over This is a money making scam Money-making scam I tell you and they have no financials nothing about the except for who started it You're like oh, and they're all trying to be funny and contrite throughout the whole site in fact if you go to look This really pissed me off Crowd rise calm so I go to the about section when they try to distract you right there. It says Where was it?

2:06:07 They say you'd probably... Why can't I find this now? The Crowd Rice story, I think is what it is. They say you probably want to look at this picture of the sky instead of reading this small print about how they work Really?! Does that really work? Like try distract people with pictures of kittens Picture of a napkin. I'm sorry it's the picture of a napkin so you know we've Yeah, we know that you really would like to find something out about You know how this company works and you know because we're taking money But maybe just rather look at this picture of a napkin ha ha ha ha ha ha but they don't really tell you anything about you know About this company they've been around for a couple years since 2009 Edward Norton

2:06:56 Shana Robertson Robert and Jeff row wolf who are these people I'm looking at Robert and Jeffrey actually will Jeff row it's Jeff row really says Jeffrey here on this this biography site Oh Jay a couple of joggers says je FFRO Jeff row It could be they misspelled it on their own scam website seems unlikely like who you know who Crowdrise is a unique blend of online fundraising, crowdsourcing social networking contests and other nice stuff. So why is Sean Penn in on this? And why are these celebrities once again trying to help Haiti when it's futile the money just gets stolen nothing helps These poor people we can't do anything for them they're screwed We have all the Clinton money that's what I'd like to know No well never find out we've tried to find out you don't know where that money went

2:08:01 I'll look into this. It's kind of interesting, i did get a...I sent you a copy of this the thing that Obama is doing Oh yeah! I wrote it down Which I think is an illegal lottery Uhh..i can read the email because you sent to me and thought was pretty funny I think its an illegal lottery, I think Obama is doing an illegal lottery He has making people pay money for tickets to sit with him at the table. Friend, here friend I just saw the seating chart for dinner with Barack and Michelle and i thought you should know about it The president first lady are on the left and right side of the table where do you want to sit? Think about it then donate three dollars or whatever you can to be automatically entered for chance to win And there's a URL

2:08:50 I've put a lot of dinners together for the President and Mrs. Obama, sometimes they have been for foreign dignitaries and heads of state, sometimes they have included governor artists musicians Hollywood bullcrappers The seating can get pretty complicated but i have to say this one was easy One table six guests And the president and first lady So really my job is done The only thing missing is who that guest will be Click here to give three dollars or whatever you can To automatically end it for chance For you and your guests to have dinner with the president and first lady So they need to have a disclaimer that says no purchase necessary, don't they? I think so. Yeah funny thing is when you click there it takes you to a website where the minimum donation is $10 Really yeah, but that was clever There's also a blank spot where you can put in a dollar or two bucks But this is this is I don't see any evidence said you should you can just enter You should be able to these lotteries these types of things have to be by law

2:09:48 It says here, no purchase payment or contribution necessary to enter or win. Says that? It says it in the small print on that page. Contribution will not improve chances of winning void where prohibited So I guess you have to send in a letter They don't tell you what three winners will each receive the following prize packages up to $1200 towards round-trip tickets To Haiti and a winner and a ga... Wow Is at the value of the uh..of the dinner I don't know. Oh, they also have the... Well you didn't do a good job here because they also have the official rules now they got it all in here oh i'm sorry no that's okay. I dropped the ball! That's okay but then you click on the official rules and you get a sorry the page you're looking for isn't here that's kind of funny well that doesn't help that's kind of funny so yeah nah that's uh well listen it's the craziest thing i mean it's like there are chances of winning this i'm gonna enter now that is free yeah good luck on that wouldn't it be funny if you won though

2:10:51 It'd be great. Yeah, you could sit there and do like that congressman did you hear about this congressman? I'd be wearing the no agenda shirt. Yes slave t-shirt Jim Sensenbrenner he was at the uh... He's a democrat. He was at the airport on his way home No doubt and uh.. He was overheard saying that after buying all their crap quote A woman approached him and praised first lady Michelle Obama. He told the woman that Michelle should practice what she preaches, she lectures us on eating right while she has a big butt herself. And apparently... She does! His spokeswoman has put a release out and says he will be in touch with the first lady to apologize for his comments. It's not like he is not telling the truth. Yeah but you know he ain't gonna be at the dinner

2:11:48 Oops, he's got a big big butt And then Lucy Napolitano sat down with Aaron Burnett, the Counsel on Foreign Relations shill. Actually didn't sit down, Aaron was taken out to the testing ground, the training ground for Homeland Security where they're shooting stuff up and blowing stuff up and showing off the Secret Service. A little exchange between the two during the sit-down portion of her visit. If someone is willing kill themselves. They're gonna find a way to do it, right? I mean there's no way you can become foolproof. Look this is the Department of Homeland Security not the Department of Guarantees. The Department of Guarantees... So I flew up here from Oakland did you get uh opt out? Well i didn't have to and let me explain the situation and then you can scratch your head over this one

2:12:48 So Oakland Terminal 2 has I think two or three of the full-body scanners on the far ends. If you look at the group, there's a full body scanner and then there is a magnetometer, magnetometer, full body scanner with like one, two, three, four five six or seven rows of people going through right? So that two in the middle are just the magnetometers Right so I got in that line of course you do here, and I went through but meanwhile people are looking back for then they're actually voluntarily going Dude. I mean, I'm thinking why would anybody go to the full-body scanner this thing is dangerous for all we know we have no idea You just wandered waltz through the full body of two through the magnetometer What is it? So what did explain this to me? What is going on? Why what kind of insanity am I witnessing I think

2:13:44 Think people I think it's a sexual thing. There is something about you know It's like, you know when when you rub a dog's belly it rolls over on its back and it puts his legs in the air and surrenders completely That's kind of what I always have to think of me was just my warped mind but that's always what I have to think of when I see people go through and then they put their hands up facing flat or You know, it's like you're like a dog. But I think it's a sexual thing where there is some Pavlovian response where when you do that It makes your tummy feel good or something. The radiation! Seriously though... And these people, maybe they are just not rational Maybe they are the true zombies

2:14:31 Maybe that's just it. We're in zombie land! I think it's funny that they put the two non-scanner things in the middle and so if you wanted to, you can go through those instead of creating a big hassle for everybody because they know some people aren't going to go through there... And by the way, it takes a long time because you go through that, they scan you then you have to stand on the yellow footprints while they approve your photo Yeah, it takes longer than just walking through a... Much longer I just found the whole thing kind of almost surreal. Yeah, well while we're on that this is a...I'll shuttle through this there was some amazing information in this this is a guy who crossed over from the Canadian border and he was going shopping to the mall with his wife and he was going to the Niagara Falls Mall

2:15:25 So, you know I think a lot of people probably do this they cross over this border and he gets stopped by By Border Patrol and questioned And i'll play the first bit and then we'll shuttle ahead because the big payoff comes at the end The whole thing by the way is as a youtube video. It's about 10 minutes long and it just I mean He his wife gets wind up winds up getting Handcuffed. I mean but he's recording the whole time I don't know what kind of device he had but just listen to how it starts how we welcome our friendly Canadian neighbors To the United States Which country am i citizens Canada Both of us are from canada We're married Fashion at all that mall for shopping. Where in what is it? What's the address? Oh

2:16:22 Niagara Falls. Which stores? I don't know, does it matter? We haven't, we haven't settled our... Our keys. This has to be a joke! This has to be just sketch No I don't know no no i dont think so this is.. I think this guy's asking what stores What stores? Oh yeah it gets much worse So immediately... Who the douchebag is this guy? Wait until you hear the rationale behind it So he says which store and the guys like I dont know which stores And then he says hand over your keys My keys?! Yes your keys right now

2:16:58 10-22 to wing 1, 2 off defense United States of America No I understand but... So if i ask you a question. I'm answering! I don't expect to get responses like does it matter? I expect to get the responses after the questions You asked me which store im going too Yeah If your customer is stopping... I dont know what store Im going to Be quiet Get out of the vehicle Okay Any weapons any phones on ya? NO! Leave them all in the car leave those headphones in the car Ok Alright Over this way Go that way For what reason? Take a seat. For what reason?! Take A Seat! Ridiculous, I said why do i have to sit down take a seat Why Do I Have To Sit Down? Take A Seat By the way advice to you is don't say anything because this guy just digs himself in so incredibly deep but he's right One Elm Drive Mississauga Where are we trying to go today We're trying to go to the Fashion Outlet Mall In Niagara Falls I believe

2:17:56 I'm not sure. He asked me, the question that was asked was which store am i going to specifically? I don't know My wife and I are just gonna walk around the mall By the way though, I think they're eating a baby in the background I dunno what's goin' on there And I was told to come an sit down, I asked what's the reason he kept yelling This gentleman right here kept yelling Sit down! Sit down! Sit Down! So you wouldn't give me a reason What if the officers tells you to do something Well I need to know why Hold on a second You're Canadian citizen. Yes I am, but i'm not going to obey orders if I don't understand the reason for them. Ooh that was not good. The officer tells you, coach come inside and sit down when you come inside and sit down. So this is it so now they play a little bit of good cop bad cop. I'm gonna shuttle ahead uh... What a waste of the taxpayers money to have these guys killing this Canadian character. Wait until you hear the revelation though!

2:18:48 I'm not picking on you, i'm just trying to interview you. No, I don't think you are but I think your the first level person who's interviewing me We ask very detailed and personal questions Okay Just so we can verify what you say okay example where ya going? Go in my uncles house Where does he live He lives in New York City Where give an address Give a phone number Am I calling your uncle And say Is your nephew coming down to see you today? Uh-huh. This is what we do, that's how detailed we get, that's how personal it is Okay I've been here through numerous times and never had those kinds of questions asked It doesn't matter okay Previous times don't matter If the officer feels like he wants... No, you want us to...I think your officer doesn't like me And just wants to use the bureaucracy as an excuse to... I don't know Can we just forget with the other one Well that's why I'm here!

2:19:33 That's why I'm here. Okay, so now it's coming up John how many terrorists because of course this is all about terrorism How many terrorists do you think come through the Canadian border on an annual basis? Well must be tens of thousands from the way they're grilling this guy. I'm trying to talk to him. I understand that. I'm not being disrespectful to you personally. I think there's something wrong with the process Anyway, go ahead. Well if you're upset with the process there's nothing I can do for you. I understand This is what we do How many times have you crossed within the last year? Oh, I don't know maybe 20 times no not that many times No Maybe less than 10 Every once in a while we are going to send you inside

2:20:13 Inside this office. Uh-huh We're gonna interview you, we're gonna search your car, we're gonna search your person... Whatever level of search that we feel like we need to go to That's what were going to do Just to verify your story And people that say yeah I'm going shopping for the mall Sometimes people lie to us Okay, understand They say and they meet with somebody and drop off a load of drugs Do you honestly think im lying to you? See listen Do you honestly think im lying to you Do I honestly think you're lying to me? Yeah. No, but unfortunately in my line of work I can't believe everybody Okay, but we're talking about me right now Okay here it comes this guy getting in his face This is why he gets arrested because he's really annoying the guy But its really good We are talking about ME right now If I believe everybody I would never find anything How many terrorists do you find coming across the border? You wanna know what? You'll be surprised Now he gets pissed off

2:21:10 You'd be very surprised. I would say three a day. What? Three a day! And that's just at one border crossing?! Yes, three a day he finds three a day from Canada So this guy...this one guy and one border crossing yes finds 3 terrorists a day and we have how many hundreds of border crossings He finds three a day? Three a day That's the clip of the week. Listen, just finish it up I would say three a day Three terrorists A day From Canada? That you don't know about Okay Do you think we put every single possible terrorist in the newspaper and said he was a counter-terrorist Yeah i think you do put every possible terrorist on TV and the newspaper Yes I do! Absolutely I do! Lewis & Bridge? I'm just curious And I'm not saying here at Lewis & Bridge, I'm saying in Porto Buffalo Lewis & Rainbow and Peacebridge I'd say three a day Okay sit down with me

2:22:08 And then and then his wife gets arrested because she's getting a manhandled it just it really goes downhill from there three a day Yes, Canada It's an amazing piece of audio. Really is really, really good and I'm so sorry to all of our Canadian listeners but you know but i also have to say that Canada man it's a hotbed of terrorism up there. We don't want those guys coming in bunch of terrorists thousands and thousands at least almost three a day over a thousand coming across that one border

2:22:46 That one spot every year and there's a hundred, I mean hundreds of thousands of terrorists are being caught. Canadian! And they're being caught with the filling up the jails. They're putting them in jail what do they do after they catch him? Do they release him as a catch-and-release is it like fishing? I don't know... You hear these guys man like you come through here eventually we're just gonna search you or search your car yeah cuz yeah you could be dropping on some drugs when to check with your uncle make sure that you actually going shopping Oh, so embarrassing. This is unprofessional. Uh really? I think it should be-I think the head of the whole operation which would be Napolitano should be reprimanded oh wait a minute she's been reprimanded numerous times in front of Congress and nothing's changed okay never mind She should be excommunicated! She should be excommunicated! So probably-she's probably Catholic Just following up on uh

2:23:44 With Canadians and vaccines, which is always one of my favorite topics. A team of researchers working out at the University of Western Ontario in London, Ontario Which is where I think that's also a hotbed of terrorism Have received approval from the US Food and Drug Administration to begin clinical trials of an HIV vaccine on humans AIDS is dead But the way they're doing this, and I don't understand exactly how it works. I mean, I know a little bit about vaccinations apparently the way vaccination work is you put in a bit of the virus and then someone builds up immunity against this virus is that how it works?

2:24:27 Well, you don't put the virus in them. You put an attenuated or a dead virus... Oh it is a dead virus? You can put in the dead virus that's how it works? You put something where the body says oh what's this doing here let's make him immune to it but there already not going to do anything although this does happen the live virus gets in there and everybody gets sick from the shots So they say that they have produced a special version of this virus, synthesized it so they've basically created the AIDS virus or HIV I should say. It's housed at special biosafety level 3 laboratories yeah we know how good those are so they create the live virus they synthesize that can create this thing and then it's killed and genetically modified to become harmless and then they're gonna inject people with it

2:25:24 But it's not a cure, so I guess they're going to go how do you test this? You create it. It's not a cure then what good is it Well, it's not a cure. It's a vaccine! A vaccine is not a cure... A vaccine is a preventative cure. It's a preventative measure so how do you test this on humans? You inject them with the- With the vaccine and then you give them AIDS I mean how does that work?! That's the problem. I think what they're trying to d- I don't know. Y'know They think that they can shoot up people with some sort of uh.. I guess a magic bullet that would even if they have AIDS it would kill it off But notice its genetically modified

2:26:03 There's a lot of stuff in this report that is very concerning. Meanwhile, remember we talked about at Erasmus University in Rotterdam they were creating the H1-5... no the H... the bird flu! No yeah the real bird flu. H151? Is that it? H1-5...? The bird flu Yeah, let me look it up. I think it's H1N1 No no that's the swine flu That was h2n1 Maybe its h4n1 It's h151 or h... It's r2d2 Anyway so they've created this experiment and now they're going to publish it but now The United States is saying you cannot publish that You cannot publish the work

2:27:01 You cannot publicly let people know. H5N1 There you go, H5N1 You cannot publicly let people know how you create this bird flu and this is a big flap in the scientific community and here's chief scientist on the BBC talking about how only legitimate scientists can have this formula of this report This appears to be censorship off important scientific findings No, there's a delicate balance that the people who would have a need to know legitimate scientists, legitimate universities and medical centers public health officials will definitely have access to these data. It was an impartial National Science Advisory Board for biosecurity that made these recommendations so it isn't as if

2:27:49 the information, the details will not be available to anyone. It will be available for people who have a need-to know such as health officials in countries where this disease is endemic I don't like this at all! I don't like how it sounds...I don't like it They've created this virus and its gonna be available they're going give it other need-to know scientists and legitimate guys I think we're looking at an outbreak pretty soon. I'm with you on this one. I am not liking that at all. Normally no, but this time yes And just in time to save his congressional medal of honor Dakota Meyer has dropped his lawsuit against BAE Systems so i guess they got to him finally

2:28:34 Yeah, and that's not the Airbus people. This is a different operation this is British air... Right he accused them of selling night vision scopes to Pakistan and so now they've reached closure So he dropped his suit and all of sudden his Medal of Honor is okay Of course you're not going to hear single thing about that That's how it works That is how it works. I mean, that's really disgusting what they did. It was probably the most disgusting story of the year. Yeah it was really really bad. Probably not but... It was up there and then a lot of people wanted me to analyze the plane crash of these two bankers and the guy's family and the dog apparently

2:29:12 I don't really have an analysis for anyone because there's no information. I mean could it have been icing yeah? I mean, it seems like the plane stalled or whatever the ultimate Reason for the crash is a wing broke off when a wing breaks off that's pretty much it now these cicada TBM 700 airplanes have de-icing. I know that. I have heard personally that their engines are not all that reliable, I've heard a lot of engines quitting on final approach but this happened at 17 thousand feet Now the only thing i did look up for you is this banker was an executive at Greenhill & Co

2:30:01 And I will say if you look at what they've done, including the Northern Rock deal. U.S Department of Energy deals $35.9 billion energy loan portfolio it is possible That there's more stuff coming out about more Solyndra-like things and more taxpayer money being stolen by Obama insiders and congressional and senatorial insiders. It is possible the guy knew too much But there's no evidence otherwise and it is very, very hard without an NTSB report to even start to think about what happened to this aircraft. But it is a very unfortunate of course or as we call in aviation, a day wrecker It's a weird accident

2:30:59 Yeah, well we'll keep an eye on it if anything shows up that we can talk about. Otherwise it's just rank speculation That's why I'm saying it but looking at what this Greenhill and Partners has done they are in a lot of deals And their advisors on these deals It takes 6 to 12 months as the NTSB Oh yeah, oh it takes forever We're still waiting for details on 9-11 Takes forever with those guys And then, uh... Oops. Didn't mean to hit that one. Um... Nice to see that Siemens has hired Stanley McChrystal as a supervisor Oh! How nice. You mean he's the board member? Uh... no. Supervisory role whatever that means So he's gonna actually have a real job Yeah He will chair a board overseeing a newly created unit aimed at securing more and bigger contracts with the federal government Pay off! Siemens? Yeah The German company Yes

2:31:55 Wow. Pay off! Yeah, something... Alright everybody we really appreciate the love we've seen once again from people supporting this program and remember we have the clip show coming up on Sunday so that'll be fun to listen to. Hey I'm gonna miss everybody a Merry Christmas and we do that on the show too yeah That's a real holiday Yes it is actual federal holiday Actual holiday and there's some actual history behind it And will be back before the new year right Joe? Yes, we'll be back next Thursday to finish off the year with some maybe a look back and then we start the new year next Sunday. Not this coming Sunday but the Sunday after We're gonna do a show on New Years and it will be the first show of the year on the first day of the year It'll probably look forward to seeing what would think is going happen over than the course of 2012

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