Mothership Uncloaking?

00:00 Angela, I let you change the treaty if you let us... eh... eh... sodomize farm animals. Adam Curry, John C. Devorah It's Thursday December 8th 2011 time for your Gitmo Nation Media assassination episode 363 This is no agenda Watching C-SPAN so you don't have to here at Camp MoFo in Austin, Texas. The capital of the lone star state! In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where for some unknown reason at this weird hour the fog rolled in...I'm John C. DeVore. And by fog I do not mean your singing voice Mel Torme Yes oh no I do a pretty good Mel Torme actually people always say I sound like Eric Burden

00:49 We want to hear my Eric Burden, yeah there is a house in New Orleans Nailed it right that's actually Obama doing Eric Burton. Hello everybody there's a house the rise Yeah In the morning to you. You can probably do that, I think maybe you could take the lyrics from The House of the Rising Sun and Obama over it see how far you get kind of like a Bill Shatner type of vibe yeah totally hello everybody there is a house in New Orleans Texas Kansas

01:36 Whatever you got that far hanging in there. I forgot the lyrics oh You know it's looking up on the inner tubes in the morning to you Jean-Claude in the morning to you Adam curry and all in The morning to all the ships at sea foots on the ground and feet in the air and everything in between yes And of course to all of these human resources in the chat room all lined up ready to go charged Just the way your government loves you there at no agenda stream calm. No agenda chat net This is another episode of the award-winning Podcast the best podcast in the universe it is the know agenda show And I got up early this morning to, well there's a lot going on today John. There is a lot going on we have in the United States of Europe We have the big do or die meeting That's tomorrow isn't it? No that's today brother It starts today Oh there's another thing There also the Holder hearing is going on today The Holder hearing which I've been watching this morning We also have Corzine testifying

02:36 About which we kind of expect him to take the fifth on everything so as not to incriminate his guilty self The holder thing, uh, of course. I'm very excited about The setup was beautiful this morning. They went on recess for like half an hour to do some annoying thing, like vote so they just came back and now Sheila Jackson is like... Very annoying person but ICE it was a beautiful set up yesterday the news came out CBS came out with this news And ISA started off this morning, which I clipped for our pleasure with this little ditty. So CBS News has emails

03:36 which they've now published that literally show exactly what we talked about, that ATF used the gun walking program to make a case for regulation of guns in these United States of Gitmo Nation. Curiously, we kind of spotted that as a potential scam and predicted it Yes, yes we did Now also questions should arise today about about the ATF laundering drug money. It's all out in the open now and ISA is on the warpath, man! He is so ready to rock and roll it you can just see he's like peeing his pants

04:18 What we need of course is a Democrat to start attacking the, they call him the general by the way. They don't call him attorney general in these hearings they say a General Holder which sounds so wrong for a lawyer. That is wrong I never noticed that. Oh yeah it's the whole morning But here was, of course there was really nothing going on this morning except the definition of lying to Congress. That was kind of a funny bit that I clipped for us here. Why was the letter withdrawn? The letter was withdrawn because there's information in there that was inaccurate. The Justice Department Letter of February... Okay, well tell me what's the difference between lying and misleading Congress in this context? Well if you want to have this legal conversation it all has to do with your state of mind. What's your state of mind baby?!

05:16 That's how it works, baby. State of mind. It is just your state of mind. You had the requisite intent to come up with something that can be considered perjury or a lie. The information that was provided in that February 4th letter was gleaned by people who drafted the letter after they interacted with people who they thought were in the best position... Well, that's a great statement! I've got to hear that again. The information in that letter was gleaned after the people made the statement to interact with those people... ...who they thought were in the best position to have the information... The guy is such a liar. Isa also asked, if he should be sworn in there was like a parliamentary inquiry immediately well no when you're testifying before Congress it's the same as being testifying under oath yet you know so they don't make the guy they don't swear him in which is weird I think

06:08 I thought they did. No, no there was a whole thing this morning. ISIS started off he handed in the documents... I thought i seen people being sworn-in? Well you know for some reason parliamentary rules say that if you're testifying before Congress it is exactly the same as testifying under oath even if you're not being sworn-in well we'll see yeah sounds like a scam to me big scam Well, whatever. Anyway so it's an exciting day Corzine shall be funny. Corzine will be good for the big laughs Yeah because of course he may just shut up if you smart. He is going to take...he is going to plead the fifth I don't think and so for those who do not know we have a Fifth Amendment here in United States of Gitmo where you don't have to testify at all by taking the fifth If your testimony were possibly to incriminate you So you don't have to do that maybe very short hearing

07:05 But it's now pretty much known that the financial advisor to the president, a bundler for the president. IE he collected... Oh they said bungler! Maybe that too? I think he is a bungler He was a bungler- he is the Hamburglar The Hamburglar for the President basically stole like a billion dollars from people's accounts. And so far the government is like, well we'll figure it out don't worry about it. These farmers and stuff who had money in accounts for futures contracts for cattle and he just took it! And the authorities go, that's okay he's a bungler, don't worry about it all gonna be good right? Yeah it's a winner yeah

07:58 But the Europe thing, we'll get into that later. That's fascinating to me I think the top news item is the one about this idiotic bill that takes the fourth amendment Flushes it down the toilet mean the National Defense Authorization Act Yeah, that's got that one provision in it and when I do have a if you want to play something humorous Of course. Sure. I do have the Jon Stewart That's long though. That's real It's like eight minutes or is that too long? No no I don't have the 8-minute one is for after the show which one do I have here let me look at Cuz I saw the Jon Stewart thing and you know, but it's John Stewart. I don't think people like I got a Jon Steward over again We really have to listen that no, that's the end of this show Well, maybe that's oh never mind can't play it. I don't even see it It says end-of-show clip on the defense bill fiasco Okay, we can play at the end of the show if you want Yeah, that's what I have in here since end of the show let's not play it now then there's not a good well I Can say something though? Okay

08:56 John McCain is an unbelievable douchebag. Hold on a second, let me just... Let me accentuate that you know I have there's a couple of things about this NDAA the first one there's another little thing that crept in there besides the fact that if you're a belligerent i.e. grumpy old man and you support Al-Qaeda with your phone... Enough my lord kids! With your foam we're number one finger The National Defense Authorization Act includes a provision to repeal Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Now, you kind of gloss over that especially when you're trying not be too belligerent Are you familiar with article 125? I'm going to be shortly

09:46 Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice makes it illegal to engage in both sodomy with humans and with animals. Hold on a second, I'm not kidding you. This has been repealed? Well it's in the bill yeah they want to repeal it. Here is how we're gonna do it take your fourth amendment rights but you can be able to fuck sheep. What kind of thinking is this?! It's quid pro quo baby what's your problem this is a good deal! Unbelievable How crazy is that? That's just nuts! I don't understand. Sex with animals...

10:30 Hey man, look. That's a good catch! I'll give you credit for having the fine tooth comb on that one. Listen to this, if you're al-Qaeda and have a foam finger or are grumpy we will lock you up however my friend here is what i got for ya. Look at my coat. I've got some sex with farm animals for ya. Unbelievable And then there was this thing going around which uh... Alex Jones and usually he has some documentation to back it up. What was that you just said? Yeah, usually what's usually really usually well this case is very interesting KBR Has released a document which calls for subcontractors so this got leaked out that are to supply various functions to the FEMA camps

11:22 including temporary fencing and barricades, catering services medical and laundry services power generation refuse collection and other services. They are expected to be able to activate their parts of the camps within 72 hours after an order these are the camps that you don't believe exist they don't okay well the document is here what where's this document come from? From KBR it's a PDF KBR establishing a national quick response team for our current federal emergency management agency and US Army Corps of Engineer work for anticipated future contracts. I'm looking at the document right now. You're looking at no, this is KVR?

12:10 Yeah, what's KBR? Kunta Kinte Brown and Root. You know that is a big contractor Oh it says it's a consulting firm Kellogg Brown and Root now they're huge yeah They're part of That group that took all the money out of Iraq. Yeah those guys Yeah those guys Halliburton Company yeah I think it is a Halliburton subsidiary Anyways, I just thought that was kind of interesting. It seems like yeah the person so you have this in the show notes Yes, of course. I do. I'll have to look at that over later. Yeah absolutely but That is you know they you know um I got a lot of email about The bullying stuff I got a bullying clip oh let's set it up with that because I've looked into this little further and

13:00 Well, this is on ABC so we know it's one of the conduits for some White House stuff. Yes and that's because the news director, the president of news at ABC sister is a personal and high level advisor to the President And Stephanopoulos is one of the main shakers, he's a White House shill And then this is a promotion for the anti-bullying initiatives and you'll probably discuss, but also while we're at it we might as well push Lady Gaga. Of course! Why not? Make some money for her because there's money in it for all of us The most recent numbers on bullying are staggering 160 thousand children stay home from school every day to avoid bullies

13:45 when in fourteen years say they're victims and one of america's most popular singers has become a powerful voice on their behalf our for today lady gaga took their cause to the top here's a bc's lindsey davis on gaga at the white house Gaga at the White House. At 13 years old and alone at 4am, Jonah Mowry went public with his darkest thoughts. More than 5 million people have watched this video where he uses note cards to express the anguish of being bullied and thoughts of suicide Since he posted it, support has poured in from everyday people and celebrities alike. Pop star Lady Gaga tweeted thank you Jonah for being brave enough to share your story today lady gaga took that message to the White House meeting with top staff to the president to press the importance of this crisis

14:34 and seek help for the nation's kids. Gaga began her fight after 14-year old Jamie Rodemeier gave up his. One of his last messages offered thanks to Lady Gaga. When he later took his life, after being bullied for being gay, Lady Gaga tweeted, Now she is giving voice to bullied children through her charity It's an organization centered around anti-bullying and my mom and I are really passionate about that. This is our passion project But beyond adults efforts, bullied teens are also supporting one another online

15:14 Why so many kids are really using the internet as their personal diary? To pour your heart out on the internet is a way to sometimes ask for the support that you need and, as Jonah found, to get the support that you need. And now these children have a star on their side bringing their stories all the way to The White House Lindsay Davis ABC Wow! Exactly one minute and 47 seconds of my life never to return again So here's an angle on this two things first of all I received emails including one from a lawyer, uh lawyer Robert. I think and that is really angry you know like calling me names bullying me actually Bullying you yeah bullying me saying you know the internet is uh You know it magnifies this stuff. You don't know how horrible It is now a couple of things I want to say first of all

16:08 Parents who are angry about this internet bullying and Facebook bullying, even bullying in the classroom. Actually it's their own baggage they're angry because they have not taught their children how to strike back to have a vocabulary or a pen poisonous enough to take care of business so it's our own anger that they're letting out there secondly the hypocrisy Whereas it's oh by the way, when does it win so then we now have laws right? We have a law in Massachusetts the anti-bullying law you cannot bully you can go to jail and I'll get to that story in a minute

16:46 So where does this end? Is it okay to bully someone who's no longer a teenager, is it 13 14 15 16 17 so what age is it okay and the hypocrisy of everyone on the internet bullying teenage pop stars who apparently have some superpowers and are okay with bullying because they're bullied all the time. Go look at Star Magazine National Enquirer who has cellulite whose boobs are off who looks ugly, everyone participates in that but that's just funny because they're celebrities. So it's a hypocrisy and its ridiculous

17:24 And you know seriously, I mean then go on your own talk show host. I'm gonna pay the pet peeve thing when you yeah I will talk show hosts politicians Everyone should go to jail if you make fun of a teen star just because they're a star doesn't mean that they that The laws don't apply all of a sudden okay? Yeah Justin Bieber looks like lesbian Oh, yeah It's all really funny and David Letterman can do it John Stewart can do it Jay Leno can do it the president actually bullied the Jonas Brothers by threatening them with a drone attack This is an outrage! He is bullying the Jonas Brothers, some of who are teenagers. So it's... you're all hypocrites. So I'm watching uh... this is really bothering me this bullying stuff because it's everywhere. I can tell Oh no, It gets worse. Okay so um Pierce Morgan has an hour long has Phoebe Prince's mother on now Phoebe Prince hung herself

18:20 in January of 2010 after being bullied at school. Hung herself, horrible! And Pierce has this mother on who is clearly just you know she's Irish of origin and she's crying there was nothing coming out of her then he brings the district attorney in who prosecuted it got these laws in place which Governor Rick Snyder has put into place the anti-bullying laws. And so I'm watching this for a full hour, John... A full hour! Two things they never said they never really explicitly stated what was said what these horrible bullying things were or what was posted on Facebook or whatever Never said that and interesting thing is every single commercial was a pharmaceutical ad and just on a hunch i look up

19:18 What really happened to this Phoebe Prince? Turns out she came to America after her father and mother separated. She was in distress in 2008, and she was put on Prozac! She was severely disturbed, she was cutting herself... ...she broke up with a boyfriend and then tried to swallow an entire bottle of Prozac After that she was put on Seroquel put into the hospital because she was so disturbed. None of this came up in this interview by the way, not a single thing and then this poor girl commits suicide. She's beautiful young girl you know they called her a whore or whatever they called her and then you go look at this district attorney Elizabeth Scheibel who has since stepped down she is no longer a district attorney for the Northwestern District but when she was

20:19 Had to disclose her holdings and she's got a lot of interesting stock holdings like Acura Pharmaceuticals And other companies like this what is happening. I believe John that teenagers and in 2004 the FDA already said you know these antidepressants can cause kids to commit suicide. In fact it's on every single label this antidepressant can actually make you so depressed that you're gonna commit suicide I think what's happening here is a cover-up by the pharmaceutical industry Because they are the ones responsible their drugs are making these kids nuts and who knows what? Ritalin and all these other drugs are doing kids are killing themselves because they're drugged out And to cover it all up We're gonna have this big bullying thing, you know You can't bully whenever laws against bullying cuz God forbid we find out the ugly truth that our drugged-up Kids are going nutso because of the drugs that we put them on

21:20 And now I'll play it. And by the way, criticizing that clip for wasting 1.8 minutes of your life doesn't compare to you watching Piers Morgan through the whole hour! I know... well that part of it..I'm gonna go to hell for watching that That guy, by the way, I haven't got any clips on this but that guys name- I've been watching the hearings and these are hard to clip It's fresh The hearings going on in Great Britain over the phone hacking scandal and they have all these editors They all worked for Pierce Morgan. There was a moment where... Oh, this guy he ran away! He ran away from England because he knew this was gonna come out and wanted to be safe so that we can't get extradited. He was the guy who in fact they had some pictures of this guy I should just wish you could see this but this guy one of these editors he holds up says it has a big binder of clippings that is so proud of and he holds up his thing its got a picture of Sarkozy's wife naked

22:19 The guy doing the questions you maybe should put that down because we're on camera he says well and he puts it down and then he holds it up again And says, We got this picture of Sarkozy's wife. Yeah, he's holding it up He puts it down so where'd you get the pictures? Did we stole it? And and so he says we nicked it as he said. We found this old some guy who was a fashion photographer very unknown guy, we found him and he had his cache of photos and we went over to visit him and stole the picture without paying him made a big

22:55 Joke about it, and it was Pierce Morgan that told him to do it And that red-headed Rebecca woman says I don't think you should be stealing stuff and Morgan says go ahead We need this story. Oh no Pierce morning is a total douchebag He's so happy he is so happy to be here because he knows that if he was in London in England He would be so under the gun this guy is directly responsible for a lot of you know I went to The screws as we call them the news of News of the World. We are actually remember me vo had a deal with the Sun Yeah, and you do some News of the World thing in there news of the world I'm sorry it's on news of the world yeah We were doing a video for news of the world And I would go to whapping where their headquarters are which was like a high security prison

23:42 Just to get in you have like turnstiles gates guard so competitive I think they were selling that thing at five million copies a weekend Mm-hmm, and they were paying people he said there was not unusual pay people $10,000 for a tip like we're late with during the Lady Diana period in the 90s. It says it was common to be doling out Three to ten thousand dollars to people if you could tell us that lady Diana is going to be arriving at some airport in Finland. If he gave us enough of advance notice, 10 grand right here. The screws offered Christina as it was a while for like a brief while luckily she was hanging out with Peaches Geldof, Bob Geldof's drugged-out daughter and glad that didn't last long

24:30 They offered her tens of thousands of dollars to take pictures and send them to him. Which he never did, but wow! I mean it was tempting...I was like move over kid shut up! Let me take a picture! Take this pen and just slip it into your pocket It's okay don't worry about it all good so um... Now they had a big budget for this sort of thing So they had the good stuff But you know they were so glib about it, it's pretty funny. I've just been listening to this for a while but again Pierce Morgan's name comes up over and over again the guy is really not as bad actor But again I go back to how this is such a huge deal whereas the British public no one's outraged about the cameras on every single street corner About the government snooping their phones, their emails They have cameras in trash cans

25:22 No one's upset about that. It's the government, it's good for you but when it's about a celebrity like Hugh Grant or Pippa then oh this is horrible yeah and then they read it of course Yeah and then of course its important because they're all stupid hypnotized slaves unlike the people who listen to and support the best podcast in the universe. Yeah, well we do our part now I have a couple of things... We have..I want to get on and name our producers for today's show. And we have a good number. We do have one anomaly which i'm looking into. This I think has happened before

26:03 When we download the numbers from PayPal, sometimes when somebody writes too much I think those things get...I don't think they can...I think that record is not...doesn't show up in the download but I'll go back and look into the files themselves. But our night in Tokyo... Yes sir Mark? sir mark and i would you know you hung out with him and that's all right now we're not going to close in on the idea of him total benefit of the doubt only add there's no doubt about it i am and i think she thinks it's in their setting eric turned this information up some time ago that is in some download somethings disappear but it still in the use till the money was actually still receiving dennis counted valve doll obviously gonna check because uh... he comes in with the

26:48 uh... actually for in on behalf of dean astrid a five hundred dollar contribution becoming the executive producer of the show but he has as a nice note we've been working less twenty months and our biggest project to date in central tokyo these are the two were four people who got there not familiar with uh... us your marketing or do you know our connection major major league architects and they'd work in uh... asia We've been working the last 20 months on our biggest project to date in central Tokyo. Not an embassy, but opposite one definitely as large as one fully open to the public The whole complex comprises eight buildings three of which form one of the biggest bookstores in Japan Yes our client believes in books I think you know something that we are just realizing thanks to you guys that books may become important again sooner than we think Hey! That book thing there might be something to it You know

27:40 JC, Buzzkill Jr. and others have noticed that when the more they use the Kindle the more books they end up buying it's true it's absolutely true why do you think I started The Big Book Show man? I'm Nostradamus Well you might be because I have a clip that might indicate such, we'll play later. I want to donate this producership to Dame Astrid my business partner as her leadership in the project was incredible simply put the project would not have been possible without her We work as a team on our projects she really pulled out the stops and she used complimentary says she should be proud it was fitting and no doubt because of the karma you send East that only Japanese Prime Minister we felt had any substance in 20 years we've been here was there at the opening sitting up

28:25 Oh, you're trying to flash her ring at him. Wait a minute. I lost you job. You dropped out John Oh, she was sitting at the presentation of the building across from the Prime Minister of Japan and she had her night ring on. And he wanted to kiss it! She's trying to flash it at him. Look what you don't have, Biatch! Just to get his attention which would kind of be a baby in case... Really? She's awesome they're both very very kind people And so as you know we don't like mentioning clients and projects by name on the shows. We're not looking for cheap promotion but if you are in the Dakeyama area, Daiken-Yama of Tokyo near here Hillside Terrace You'll understand what we've been up to buildings and interiors both. And then I think he started drinking because... Then I saw that too it's like and I tell you Sir Mark knows how to pound him down. That's good to know So let me just read it He is English What do you expect? As Is written

29:27 With all the commotion of the opening, I couldn't get this mail out for the Sunday show. So if you want to make Astrid posthumous producer last week's show to give some a better chance at becoming an exec producer this week feel free. Finally Finally, none of this would be possible with you guys. Yeah exactly the show keeps us real and grounded and able to smile at any calamity And somehow it magically gives us the karma we when we need it sir mark It's so kind of coincidental that I bring up the whole idea of the of the owl that That laser that set off the earthquake and all of a sudden he's like donating

30:09 Hmm coincidence I think not hmm anyway we'll have to go to Tokyo and check out this but I really want to go you know Mickey knows her way around town oh that's right she lived there or something well she lived in Nagasaki Japanese he does speak some Japanese she lived there for five years in Nagasaki where no president has ever been.

30:55 During your seasonal dry patch from sending 363, can we show him? Please send some job hunting karma in case he's looking to withold Wittowski. Alright here we go. You've got karma They met at the Boston meetup apparently in August He is an Amherst libertarian and says John that's libertarian not librarian Libertarian, not librarian. Whatever. Anyways wishing the best in 2012 to the best podcast in the multiverse while limited to just the universe James Spitzer of Jamaica Plains Massachusetts Todd Cochran and Kapolea

31:37 Okay, is it capital a I think so 333 33 John and Adam continue to love the show knowing this is the time of year Donations are down thought. It was appropriate to help out Adam Hey will be in Texas this week if you and Mickey are up for dinner on me Friday in Austin You name them the place any place at all spend as much as I can hey isn't Todd Cochran the guy who? Arranges the podcast awards. I think that's the guy right oh Is it? Yeah, I think he is. We need a posthumous... Best Podcast in the Universe Award! He wants you to check out his geeknewscentral.com. That's so kind of him man. If anyone supports podcasting it's that guy. Well thats'a good thing. Isn't he has the Blueberry Network? The Blurberry? Blurberry. I don't keep up with podcasts and they don't know me much about it. Have you heard of them? They're pretty cool. Anonymous from Dublin Dublin Dublin

32:32 Do not mention my name! But please promote free Kindle books. Bill Clinton and the Dead Bookmaker on the Golf Course. Former President Bill Clinton must use all his acumen and strength to help his philandering brother Roger stay out of jail when he's accused of murdering a bookmaker. A work of non-fiction, clearly... I would... And we got a couple executive producers, or associate executive producers. Actually we've got a slew of them Boris Slav Marinoff, Sir Marinoff to you Sorry i'm late but it seems like non-donation climate in India got me! I intended to donate for my birthday last Saturday but after I landed in India I completely forgot about it

33:12 It's the India, it's a vibe there. It's a cheap vibe Yeah exactly If it can happen to non-Indian visitor then it can happen anyone including the poor Indian sent karma to me and my family I'll need on my flight back to US Alright here we go then You've got Karma Since he mentions this birthday thing over and over maybe you should put it on the list if its not Ummmm Let me double check I think is on the list let me see I don't know if he is Nope, okay. I'm gonna put him on then when's his birthday mine heck with it. It's sir bore Boris love Maranoff Boris love Maranoff wins his birthday

33:54 Last Saturday. Okay, sorry Drew class in Leander Texas 256 ITM Happy Holidays all Noah Jenna listeners and to you guys welcome to Austin Adam look Texas is lucky they have you and Miss Mickey here in the Lone Star State Please send karma to fellow donor Sam as well on my as my newest human resource As well as my newest human resource Ryan Klassen girl Add a Brian, you know it's like why can't hear I'm Ryan? It's a that's a boy's name No We're naming her Ryan Pat Adam, any housewarming gifts you'd like for the new ranch? Of course you would. Let us know if you like a longhorn... Oh definitely! Yeah, for over the door A Longhorn Skull Perfect Get one of those ones that mounts on a piece of wood and it goes over a door Well we don't have the ranch yet this is our interim phase But yeah but you can put this thing up We have one of those antler chandeliers

34:46 Oh, those are cool. Yeah and it's funny because it has a one antler sticking down so if you're under that thing and it falls down is drilling a hole from your head down to your rectum Wow yeah that's good to know here some karma You've got karma and at first we were like man that thing is so ugly, but it grows on you real quick Oh no I've seen those things occasionally And it's true the you'd look anything else is tacky But after a while you realize that what a crazy work of art. It is yeah both Sankowski and Winooski Vermont 250 in the morning and from the snow dust green Mountain State thanks for listening to Tom Hartman So I don't have to John

35:26 And Adam be careful with the judge. Yeah, I will Eric you have this vehicle is it local? It's messed up on my spreadsheet to Rose the echo heckle heckle heckle If he's, or PayPal doesn't put umlauts in anything. He is in for 234 and finally Dr. Nenninger... H-O-E-C-H-E-R, Huchel. Huchel. Yeah. So Doctors Neningers Natural something or other in Port Jefferson New York see if it says anything here It's uh Thank you for making people aware of vaccination dangers as a US Marine I was highly vaccinated which began a lifetime of health problems eventually leading me to become a neuropathic

36:06 leading me to become a neuropathic medical doctor. Nature-pathic? Naturopathic, well he says naturopathic right all right if anybody needs info about vaccine alternatives please have them email you can just google my name steveneninger n e n i n g er or email steveneninger at gmail dot com thanks for the best podcast in universe by the way He probably knows a lot about vitamin D3. Oh yeah, oh yeah. By the way it has been awhile since I listened so please de-douche me! Alright take off your clothes. You've been de-douched

36:47 I appreciate the new format with all the clips and those. It takes a lot of work, that is why you get my money instead of cable. Instead of The Cable Company they aren't getting this money so we want to thank everybody who became executive producer for today's show You can go to Dvorak dot org slash NA channel Dvorak dot com slash na noagendanation dot com You can also pick up a slave T-shirt there and also no agendashow dot com and click on the donation button And keep us doing all this work that we're up to and before we go into with your little pitch about the importance of these executive producer credits I do have a little aside clips and somebody brought it up here which is welcome to Austin Adam, which is the clip that made me think of you when I heard it. And as the Austin Texas brain drain clip which is going to take another minute away from your life heading to The Lone Star State

37:39 And jobs are just one reason. Housing is another This three bedroom home in Los Angeles recently sold for more than a million dollars Yet, here in the suburb of Austin Texas this four-bedroom home sold for $380,000 The people who bought it moved from California People stay here in Texas and we visit California quite a bit Bill Gagnier moved his family and his computer consulting business from California to Austin. They traded in a one-bedroom apartment for this four bedroom home. If we would have stayed in California, in order for us to make it an area where we would want to live, we would need to be a two income family But with the lower cost of living and no personal income tax in Texas Bill's wife Jessica now stays home with their daughter Gwen

38:24 We go to gym, we go swimming lessons. We do it all and if we lived in California I couldn't do that Yet they do miss that California weather and the ocean My very first surfboard...I can get rid of it But for now they'll trade blue waters for greener pastures Ben Tracy CBS News Austin Texas Well its true you know there's 30 thousand Californians have moved to Texas How are the Texans putting up with that? Well, very interesting. So we got our Texas plates We got our Texas driver's licenses so now we're officially Texans and by the way The DMV guy he says welcome to the great state of Texas when he hands you your driver's license Which is really nice with a smile and boy I've had some nightmares in California DMV Oh the DMV in California is horrendous! So the trick here Is you immediately want to say that you are not from Steiner Ranch

39:16 What's that mean? Well Steiner, so they have these communities outside of Austin where they have these you know big homes and stuff. Different sizes within each community but you know the community has its own gym it has its own shopping and this is a lot has been built out here. It has his own Home Depot and Steiner Ranch is where all the douchebags are You know, with they because now of course there you know if they were lucky enough to sell their home in California then they're here at Steiner Ranch and they got Ferraris and Bentleys and Clippity-Clop and the Austinites hate him. So you immediately gotta say, hey we're not at Steiner Ranch man. We're down there past the Oasis. You know, the Hippie Hollow that's where we are. It's called Hippie Hollow I kid you not! That's funny it's great but yeah we got the guy with the three dogs and the goat walking down the street so this is in the right Austin place. So yes correct it is pretty awesome although the weather is unbelievably cold that we've had actually 32 degrees at night freezing

40:20 Yeah, yeah really sucks anyway so please do support this best podcast in the universe we highly appreciate all of that and These credits of course are completely for real I'm like the phonies in Hollywood there in California We will vouch for you if you need it. And all you have to do is remember this one simple thing A couple of PR mentions, some domain names forwarding to the noagendashow.com website Powerwank.com which is interesting that was available You can even look it up in the Urban Dictionary, power wank if you like the definition To pull over and masturbate when driving long distances much like they advise power nap to avoid accidents

41:09 Usage? Man, I've got one hell of a boner. Better pull over and power wank! What?! It's in the Urban Dictionary! I wonder why these guys are pulled over... I used to just start singing you know like shout, shout let it all out but no power wank seems to be the new thing. Supposed to wake you up? I guess all the kids are doing it Another domain name forwarding to NoGenNoShow.com is MyJabronies.com I think its the knacker coming back do that My Jabronis. Do do do do do, dum dum dum dum dum da da da da da. Sing it with me now! My Jabroni's. Go on... Now this is unfortunate that we didn't- We own rickperrysucks.com I think? We own rickperry2012.com If you type in RickPerry.com

42:04 It takes you to ronpaul2012.com Talk about your PR there, mofo! Good job! What an idiot! Try it I wish it went to noagendershow.com You type in rickperry.com and it goes to the official Ron Paul website Well now its not going there Oh really? Its going to a Parker site Awwww thats a bummer Aw shoot Well, this is hyphenated or something the no agenda stream schedule has been published. You can find that itm dot-im It m. I am slash what's on? If you want to know what shows are playing on the all new and freshly managed no agenda stream and just fresh off The press is today Alex who put us up in the has put the no agenda Roku channel up he says we just passed 10,000 installs

43:03 The NA Roku channel is in the top rated category in the channel store. And the new version is live it has art for the past 60 plus shows in a cover flow mode Looks amazing. It's all coming off of Amazon s3. It's pulling in from the show notes I mean this fantastic you've even got to link there with a quick demo so you can take a look at sure it Is the future and it is the few? I love the Roku we tried to order a movie through the stupid time Warner which Mickey wanted to see yeah, I want to see it too blind date and I have to say, I like Justin Timberlake and you know it wouldn't order. And we called up and said oh well your cable box isn't in two-way communication mode hold a call back in an hour. You put Mickey on the phone with that she's like really? I want to watch it now okay and then yeah of course doesn't work and then the guy is gonna come out Saturday. Mickey's like Saturday really

44:00 And I went to Roku, click boom. From Amazon four bucks ordered starts playing immediately in HD done idiots. So the cable is dying they suck so bad Anyway we appreciate those PR initiatives as well i think the no agenda show on roku was very cool of course there's something else you can do you can go out and propagate our very important formula if you don't mind Our formula is this We go out...we hit people in the mouth Oops Hey, what happened? Apparently somebody got hit in the mouth. Yeah! Oh there we go that was weird. Order! Shut up! Stay! Well I know what happened is uh i'm a little p.o'd at this although of course imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and how long have we been talking about hitting people in the mouth as our formula John four years At least something like that actually pretty close to the beginning so young turks

45:05 Yeah, that poor bastard he's like chink whatever the heck his name is who was kicked off of MSDNC is what it's called nowadays by the way. Yeah MSDNC MSNBC to had to go to current on the white noise channel which is apparently Losing so many people that no one watches nobody watches you don't find it and it doesn't have any buzz And yeah, it's poorly produced the production values aren't what they could be he's also annoying him in his whole show was annoying I'm going to watch it and anyway So here's a part of 11 seconds of his little promo face value. Oh

45:45 Who are we? Well, we are proud and progressive. There's no question about that! And we're here to punch the establishment in the mouth! Right... Okay! DOOSHBAG! Crazy mofo Stealing our material Stop that, eh I'm sure if you didn't trade had a earful, but they're going No shows a podcast because this guy's been a podcaster since 2002 You don't tell me you consulted the book of knowledge on his ass. Yeah, I did I had to I was trying to figure out his politics because it never made any sense to me. He's just, he essentially when he was at MSNBC was a ranter like uh... When i first saw him he was like a ranter exactly like Ed Schwartz and you don't need two of those guys. And so they got rid of him and he wasn't getting any numbers which is the real reason

46:40 So in other media news, I do have a funny clip of poor Erin Burnett who is just failing at this CNN gig. It's not happening She's in there pulling her out of the studio. You notice that right then it's not working in the studios now like, you know Of course if they'd called us we said yeah You got to get her out of the studio Now they the problem with her out of the studio is she has a rather large derriere And it doesn't quite fit with their body. You know these women It's just no it sucks and you know I don't know how it happens whatever uh, it just doesn't look good on television and that's the only way I'd you know That's how we

47:20 evaluate things as a consultant. Yeah, not as a douchebag male No so but they can't really do all the shots they want They can't really have her walking you know they have to shoot above the waist and so you can't really establish where she is So it's not working The whole thing is not working Well she's uncomfortable too, it's so obvious. And her ability to ad-lib... She was okay on CNBC because she was surrounded by people and she is very good at interacting and she is good with the five box and coordinating a bunch of people yakking at each other I worked under

47:57 times, more than a couple of times when I was doing a lot of CNBC stuff and she uh... she was pretty slick except the one time some years ago i was told to come on to do a Christmas segment. And so I brought a bunch of gizmos and she went off the rails and started talking about something else that didn't even get to show one of the gizmo's! I don't know why they brought me on. Now it's just pet peeve, good complaint of mine. Minor peeve So here we show she comes out of a break this is her wrapping a show and trying to ad-lib her way out I don't know if the prompter was out or if she lost your notes I'm not sure but she makes... She says some stupid crap at the end then they cut away from her and they do over with some recorded voiceover of her same voice introducing Pierce Morgan but you hear the beep and the beep as they come out of commercial they play this little thing

48:46 and then there's this long pause which you're gonna hear of her looking down at the ground and then she lifts her head befuddled, now play it. Alright, well thanks so much for watching our show here live from the United Arab Emirates Abu Dhabi and Dubai. We're going to put our interview with Sheikh Mohammed the Prime Minister of the country and the ruler of Dubai on our website And we look forward to your comments about what you think about democracy and ruling and what you think about Dubai Please let us know we're looking forward to hearing that and one quick thing just to keep in mind You know that's the number-one country in the Middle East for American exports

49:24 is the United Arab Emirates, not even Saudi Arabia. Here's Piers Morgan tonight. Oh God! Whoa man... Once you hear it what do you think about democracy and ruling? Yeah here's Piers Morgan And here's, and by the way did you know that the number one who cares I mean experts. I didn't have a thought about it. I mean like you know but listen they have a new guy at CNN who is doing all their programming right? The guy came in awhile ago And he is now integrating commercials with the programming. And the reason why Aaron Burnett was in Dubai is to promote Tom Cruise's new Mission Impossible movie, which takes place on the largest building I saw her it's one big mission impossible promo and add insult injury they've got every single frickin Muppet on CNN that get Kermit with Wolf Blitzer because The Muppet Movie is being promoted It's disgusting

50:24 These guys have stooped so low they have to interview. I was like, we need...I can just see the meeting! Well we here at the Curry-Dobore Consulting Corporation We've really looked at how to engage the viewers more. We need more engagement really with advertising So we've come up with a couple of ideas. We thought it'd be really cool Now now that we've done a couple of mood boards for you here. We thought would be really cool If to promote the movies you have coming up one we will send Aaron off It'll be hilarious because you know She'll be looking at this hundred thirty seven story building and it will do some trailers and show Tom doing stuff a little bit of backstage footage And yeah, she'll just be talking about how awesome. It is now awesome time is then We'll have Kermit Kermit will actually do a little crosstalk with wolf So right that's the meeting exactly. That's the meeting John could you bring up the PowerPoint please?

51:17 And here we have the ratings you can expect because of the Kermit, the frog who is much more recognizable in a higher Q rating than himself. Now uh... We know this will hit the demos right in the middle it's perfect You know what? The parents recognize him because of course Kermits been around for 49 years They'll take the kids It's gonna be groovy baby Groovy Uh..we'l send your invoice We're out of here. We out! So talk about Piers Morgan, I do have a clip-a short one where Piers Morgan is going on and on about something or other...about taxes and he's interviewing Axelrod who looks worse than ever he looks just like an evil person Is Axelrod running the Obama campaign again this year? Yes He's a PR expert

52:12 So he comes on and he says something that is like, he makes his comment And I cut it off when you hear the good news because because well. I'll explain what happened afterwards Morgan does says nothing about this ludicrous Comment an unbelievably ludicrous comment that Axelrod makes in an assertion that essentially that the Republicans Do not want to tax the rich ever but they do want to tax the working poor. That's where they want to tax them, and it's just so bogus!

52:49 very much money should be protected. The Republicans have been completely intransigent, they do not believe almost to a man and woman in any tax increases at all despite the fact that you have people like Warren Buffett one of America's richest men almost pleading tax me more what do you think when it comes to the election battleground that your pivotal member of the Obama campaign when you see this divide now being so clearly laid out what is in the average American is going to think of the debate. Well, first of all let me just correct one thing you said. You said the Republicans don't believe in any tax increases at all so far what the Republicans have said is that they'd be willing to raise taxes on 160 million working Americans in order to avoid raising any kind of taxes not $1 on millionaires 300 thousand millionaires So it's not that they don't want to raise taxes They just don't want to raise taxes on the affluent and the truth Is if your trying to stimulate

53:49 Yeah, boogity. Let me ask you this... What a dude! I mean this guy... Well let me ask you a question... And he lets him get away with that comment! Well Pierce Morgan's a dick Here's the question Do you think Obama will come out with a we can't wait and an executive order to do this To at least extend tax cuts for everybody Or do you think they'll actually just let them expire because they need money? Well, the thing that's being discussed here I think is the payroll. It's payroll taxes! I understand it's the payroll tax. Yeah it's not the same as the Bush... Oh, it's a big part of it though? Well maybe. I don't know. I really don't know how they're gonna play this. It just uh..I'd know that there's a lot of uh.... I got one minor clip. Let me just buy them now. I have a Piers Morgan to hook into you here

54:37 Okay, Pierce Morgan with Michael Moore who is this this shows you how delusional? Michael Moore is a completely delusional he apparently was in England and He felt that the media over there treats everyone just fine That's how delusionally it you can say you can say to Michael more. You could say you're a big fat idiot. He'll be like I You're so kind. Listen to this. I'm not in... His wife can't even go to NASCAR, to a NASCAR event Michelle Obama shows up and they boo her So you think it is turning now? No, no, I think with his election in particular that the vitriol toward him simply because he's him

55:20 And- and- and- and toward his wife? Because why, she wants people to eat vegetables and take better care of themselves that's her big crime. Now I have to interrupt you Michael Moore it's because of this Yes here is a little one you come on up. Yes! Have the precious Come on up! Here is the delusional clip. Come on Up uh... no i've done question time on the bbc you're right politician comes on there and the audience man they're not afraid of a lot of them they let me have it but what do you know what here what they don't do is they don't demonize they'll make it personal why so we go ahead with the politician i've been on like i said on your shows over their by your show that's it's they're mad about politics they're made up decisions at the parent the prime minister has made in the party this may they don't want to do this guys delusional

56:12 It means that the Brits can rip people apart. They rip them to shreds! They're so nice over there, I've been on your shows...I know all about you and your shows over there. Referring to British shows not his? Yeah yeah, British shows. Isn't that crazy?! Wow. So that just proves it me, this guy is completely delusional. We came out of one thing and I had a clip but never got it to you some weeks ago during the early days Occupy Wall Street, where they ask him about what should be done to fix the system. He says we just gotta scrap it capitalism's gotta go Exactly. Scrap it! What did you put in its place? You the boss?! Get rid of that crazy crap man. Are you nuts?

57:01 Can I go into a little thing here? You had a clip you wanted to share with us. Well, let me think if there's anything that is related...I got the Axelrod one out of the way There may have been another short clip you said before I interrupted you. I do have one just to balance it In fact, I do have a balancing clip So we don't sound like a couple of shills for the Republican Party There was a thing that was floating around for awhile This is the judge in the Palatano clip and there's a thing floating around the right wing talkers about how this legislation that is going to keep the family farms so little kids that work on the farm we talked about this. This is on C-SPAN 2 today it's about the dust regulation

57:39 Well, no not the dust ranger. This is the one where kids can't drive the tractors and can't work with farm animals unless they have a commercial license So they have this on the Napolitano thing and this woman who will never be invited back apparently debunks the whole thing Oh And he like as soon as she finishes and he says something He is not talking to her anymore He's turned and he's talking to somebody else and he had the most pissed off look on his face cool and you've identified him As it as nair do well and some pre because he's cozied up to some guy that is one our enemies list kind of thing yeah I forgot it well then it's a big list I forgot. Yeah, it was one of these guys but listen to this and you can get a good kind of clue as to what might really be going on the child injury rate on farms has down 59% since 1998 but it seems big government is always happy to create a problem they can't solve

58:29 businesses that have the federal government how Mon Pau run their farm. Well you know judge this is near and dear in my heart because I come from West Virginia farming family. You are both farmers, I make maple syrup you make apple butter. You got it Burns Apple Butter is the best but we don't sell it sorry to say that It doesn't address family farms, or at least what they're talking about right now is about people who hire young workers. It's not if your parents own the farm I think because as it was in my situation those of us who worked on it should extend to your grandparents and other relatives' family farm but this is about people who hire. Think about the migrant worker kids

59:09 Even though it has gone down 59% It's still farming fatalities six times the rest of the regulations like this Cheryl affect the farming industry How do they affect its profitability as a negative effect? Really Thanks love. Oh my yeah, really Okay Love you close door so anyway The point is is that this may be a bogus like hey Nick can you close the door and Yeah, otherwise the airco just like makes it nuts. Thanks babe I really wonder what Fox is up to with some of these things. I mean there's like a Democrat agenda yeah They hate Obama. Who are they? They must...they hate everybody Well they seem to like Gingrich Oh by the way this Gingrich thing This is so obvious this is so obvious So here's how it went down now we've already established that

1:00:08 that Gingrich got this big endorsement from the Clintons and I think he you know they did a deal and all of a sudden it makes so much sense because they needed to run some interference on Mitt Romney. Ron Paul, of course they needed to separate him so they need a number one or two for the reality show horse race and in return... You know Gingrich has his own money but don't think he's spending it if you look around and really looked into it he has no organization You know, everyone walked away. It's not like he has a whole organization in Iowa. It's not like he has thousands of people everywhere He has no organization So what he has is the Clinton media machine and in return Bill will do interviews with everybody because that's what going down He is first resilient and secondly he always thinking

1:01:01 and he's got a million ideas. I mean, some of them are good and some of them I think are horrible. Do you think he is the strongest in the field? I don't know it but in both our party and theirs very often the strongest person for nomination is not necessarily the strongest person in general election And its a mistake to underestimate Governor Romney Now you lose a little context, so you don't see the grimace he makes. What did you come away with? What I came away with is don't underestimate Romney The guy is good that's why we put Gingrich in to just mess with everything

1:01:48 That's what I came away with. And the guy is a clown, he has absolutely no chance of making anywhere because he's got so many skeletons in the closet and you know and he's going to do this Donald Trump thing on the 27th which by the way Mitt Romney is not doing. No neither is Ron Paul. Why should anyone do it? This is like having one of the candidates Do the, do... I mean if you want to give a weekend to Ron Paul to grill these guys. Yeah. I mean it's Trump was on Morgan last night and this is by World Net Daily by the way which makes them really knocks them down It does! Are they Newsmax? World Net Daily? I think it's the same group isn't it? No hold on a second

1:02:33 What is it? Now this is Newsmax that's doing this, right? Yeah, Newsmax. I think they do New World Net Daily don't they? Really?! I could be wrong... I was surprised here. Consult the Book of Knowledge! About... about... oh okay let's do that. CONSULT THE BOOK OF KNOWLEDGE!!! It says here they're an independent news organization Oh nice pop-up guys screw you I'm not going to back your site again hate pop ups and what are these damn cars at the bottom of my browser popping up everywhere No, I think WorldMedDaily is separate dude. Okay well it could be Newsmax and by the way they're very similar yeah and i'm confused them. I disagree WorldMedDaily I think is pretty good Newsmax is like completely political anyway

1:03:21 Let me get into something here. This and this is for the ultimately it's for the... Before you leave this topic, Gingrich I do want to mention something which is that for some reason and then you can put this into your feeder and try to figure out trying to deconstruct it but I have a two-second clip of Newt Pohl looks good but his bogative play that Now to politics, your voice your vote and our brand new ABC News Washington Post poll showing that Newt Gingrich has opened up a commanding lead in Iowa. And nationwide he's riding a wave of momentum racking up twice the support of Mitt Romney. Oh please! So they had these numbers up there and this is the first time I've ever seen this and actually Buzzkill Jr spotted this and went looked it up at the bottom instead of having the plus or minus you know what the statistical variance... 4% usually

1:04:12 for statistical variations check the website it said. Oh! So they didn't put it up there? Did he? So when you look it up, its something like 40% or 20-something and the number was exactly if you took and added that number to Ron Paul's bogus 8%. Yeah put him at number 1. And subtracted the number from Newt Gingrichs everybody was a statistical tie Wow That is good work. This is ABC doing their You know, I don't know what the point is. Why are they pushing Newt Gingrich? And the fact that they will not give Ron Paul the time of day is amazing to me and it just continues It's the Clinton media machine! It is to distort the reality field That's what its about. Gingrich is just a distraction. That's all he is. Just a shake things up Oh, I'm totally agree with that and I stick with my prediction from months ago which is the ticket is going to be Romney-Perry

1:05:09 Listen to that clip again, I'm going to play this again. Listen to the music in the background. That is exactly what the X Factor does. They put some like classical music in the background, like big crescendo and like big dum-dum-dum-DUM-DUM! They're doing the exact same thing it's all a reality show And you know I... It's funny that you mention that because i have some later for after their break I have a couple of clips from Al Jazeera

1:05:49 One of the clips for some reason they play music in the background the other ones They don't and the music is not from a from a b-roll or anything else It's just out of the blue music like as if they're saying this is This is the coded stuff. You should be listening to you or not listen to her. This is bogus attention It's some kind of mind control obviously Well, something's amiss about it. I don't like it. And the fact that...I don't like ABC playing music behind a story like that at all! No? Well they're entertainment who cares? Disney The thing to look out for is CBS because they're trying to get Holder fired CBS are doing interesting stuff and I'm not quite sure why yet. CBS have noticed has been doing more hard-hitting stuff than might have some impact Yeah well there's a reason for it I'm sure

1:06:42 Alright, so now this is this will eventually lead into the into the book club And I will also plug the big book show in this case Big Book Show calm you'll find out why Lucifer Clippity-clop Clinton came out and she did a huge thing about human rights and lesbian gay bisexual Transgendered community just need to listen that for second to set it up. Oh Now raising this issue, I know is sensitive for many people. Sensitive? And that the obstacles standing in the way of protecting the human rights of LGBT people rest on deeply held personal political cultural and religious beliefs so i come here before you with respect understanding and humility then gayness

1:07:34 Even though progress on this front is not easy, we cannot delay acting. So in that spirit I want to talk about the difficult and important issues we must address together To reach a global consensus that recognizes the human rights of LGBT citizens everywhere You know, everyone jumped on this. Rick Perry is like Americans don't like gay people and you know... But that's not what was interesting What was interesting is I interviewed yesterday and I liked it so much that I immediately edited the episode and put it up on The Big Book Show bigbookshow.com I interviewed a professor of history at Columbia University Samuel Moyne Have you heard of this guy?

1:08:27 No, okay He's just a nerd and he wrote a and they actually did pitch this book to me. It's uh It is like a book for scholars. It's not a it's not yeah It's just the historical reference book really half of it as footnotes. It's called The Last Utopia human rights in history and the reason why I wanted this guy on is because When he so he's just a historian. He just goes through the history of human rights turns out this human rights thing that only really started in 1971 really and then it cropped up again in 1990 and the whole thing Turns out is just a big United Nations scam to go after other countries who don't adhere to the human rights because when you Intellectually think about it What is what are human rights who made them up?

1:09:22 Who maintains the list? Who is the authority of human rights? Clearly, Lucifer Clinton thinks she is because now of course one of the human rights is to be gay lesbian transgender bisexual whatever. Is that truly a human right? What are the human rights and I have a clip from the guy, one that just pulled the clips. I thought it was you know it kind of because he's not yeah Yeah, I'm not gonna fault if for pulling your own clips My super wank but do you know what I've been wanting to pull some clips from The Generation X3 show for a couple shows And I just haven't done it But think about it for second John If I were to ask you

1:09:59 Tell me who made it... Yeah, I mean is there a human right to education? That's become an issue now. Well we have a right to an education so human rights! Says who?! Thank you In fact, even people think it goes back to Jesus Christ. No! I mean he totally... It's a contrarian view of history in a way but he has all the documents and he said you know none of this was ever there were no human rights the only thing arguably that we had back to Greek philosophy and the Romans was the right to self-preservation and then later we had in America we had John Locke who said well you have the right to property

1:10:38 But that's about it. All this other stuff has always been created to create nation states and to go and kick someone else's ass, here is the relevant clip. Remember now, the guy's a historian so he doesn't draw any conclusions. Sounds like you! That is me! Oh okay... I'm just saying so he's not gonna agree with me per se but he has interesting his words it's a professor uh against a sovereign leader like Gaddafi and yeah now it's Assad and when and now she's running through my mind like all of these very typical it's all about violation of human rights and they always bring in rape and there's it just feels like a tool then you don't really conclude that in the book

1:11:30 Do you feel that is what it is? I wouldn't go so far. In part because, as you imply human rights are open to so many divergent uses and the one thing I would clarify is that the UN tries to introduce human rights right after World War II and thats how we get the Universal Declaration but no one really cares in a way the UN initially is where human rights goes to die So what happens in the post-war period is that human rights are kind of reclaimed from the UN. On the one hand, ordinary people part of amnesty and eventually part of human rights groups like Human Rights Watch begin to take a claim to human rights, to analyzing other states, to criticizing other states

1:12:22 uh... and i'm sure the rights council united nations body that does this as a for living it definitely doesn't have to definitely does so but so but they're also so-called non governmental organizations which try to prevent provide an alternative uh... human rights forum to the united nations and then presidents do it statesman since jimmy carter uh... invoked human rights i have said american foreign policy should abide by human rights or even promote human rights and there we we get into acting what's quite difficult about it because he writes could mean lots of different things and really depends who is invoking them into one purpose i wouldn't want to rule out that it can be uh... a language that make a difference since

1:13:12 interfering with other sovereignties may be something worth doing and there may be ways of doing it that improve the world. But as you suggest or fear, it could also be subject to abuse and I think we have to just be realists and look out so that when we hear human rights, we ask what for? Which rights? With whose interests in mind?" And that just blew me away, John. We always talk about human rights but all of a sudden it gets expanded by some... All of the sudden Lucifer is the holder of the rights and she knows everything and this is the way it is? People don't think about this stuff ever!

1:13:51 Well, it's because it has become part of the lexicon and people just say human rights and you just assume a bunch of things. And what I think is getting overlooked in the human rights discussion is that-is the rights of the individual United States citizens that are outlined very clearly and specifically in the Bill of Rights. Very interesting! I don't have the clip but you can watch the whole interview at BigBookShow.com He says that originally Virginia had a real straight personal rights list and then when the Bill of Rights came in it already changed. that Virginia was the state that really had it down and they were the closest to the natural law or the natural rights, but then once uh... The Bill of Rights came in which still I think is better than anything else we've seen or talked about. It certainly doesn't say you know he said in France In France in early days part of the human rights was right education? I mean my goodness John We're hearing now that the right to the internet as a human right! It's not

1:14:53 Well, I'd like to see us just stick up for the rights that we have outlined in the Bill of Rights before we even get into this rest of this bill. And I'll mention a few including the Fourth Amendment which is the right of search and seizure but the other one which is seemingly overlooked by the new laws is the Seventh Amendment which is the right to trial by jury That's listed in the Constitutional Bill of Rights, and also the rights to the states. Not if you're a belligerent combatant! No not if you're an enemy combatant of the state! So they are in complete violation... so why is Hillary out there worried about all these human rights when her own government is violating

1:15:35 Bill of Rights list. And the right to bear arms is another one that's under constant attack! Why isn't that a human right to have a gun? Or a rock, or a stick?! You can have a stick you can have a stick but not for long so the whole LGBT human rights thing I think relates right back to bullying This is all to take away our basic real rights as set by law in these United States. It's all to take it away! Lucifer up front, clippity-clop!" Well they're definitely taking it away if they pass this stuff and when you hear the clip at the end of the show which is from The Stewart Show so there was a little ridicule going on... It's ludicrous what happened when they passed this thing and John McCain who has

1:16:29 It's hard to believe this guy could have been president. It's just frightening, it just makes you shake when you think about it This guy is the worst person ever! But he shows that he's in the same camp as Obama They're on the same team because The President is actually... if you look and will hear the clip at the end of the show The President is actually threatening to veto the National Defense Authorization Act Because he doesn't have enough power in it Yeah, yeah I know but thats the funny part So they are on the same team Anyway, it's not enough power. He in fact I didn't put that in the clip but guess the best part of that That's a nice Stewart played that he must have gotten 12 minutes on this thing eight But yeah, he mentioned the fact that Obama is thinking about Expand doing it because they doesn't give him does your dictatorial rule exactly so This moin You know what his specialty is? He's a professor in history his specialty France and Germany

1:17:25 There you go, so do you mind if I play a clip where I ask him about France and Germany since he's no play it And and of course they brought up your fractal theory which I completely claimed is mine. Of course that originally Europe was a zone for economic cooperation there was a political end for the founders which was to overcome this old antagonism but as you suggested It survives in a kind of modest form I think my guess is from even from the last few days, before which I would have been much more pessimistic that the Germans will act to save Europe. They want to save it on their own terms. Isn't that precisely what this what the European Union was supposed to avoid? Was Germans running the show though?

1:18:13 Well, it's going to be tough to avoid it because they have the financial cards and they have the economy that is so far superior in its wealth and power even France that they may have the ability to dictate. Now I think it will be very bad for democracy But you know, Europe has often been charged with a democratic deficit in which bureaucrats end up running the show. In this case there'll be a lot more power for German bureaucrats over the others in Europe but it sounds as if Germany is going to step up and try to distribute physical authority to Europe

1:19:06 which it really hasn't had. The European community hasn't had the authority along with the unified currency to have a unified fiscal policy to force countries into austerity or to... Which is exactly what their proposal is now, right? There's there is a view that you get from some dissidents that actually that the German solution right now is going to be disastrous because it's based on austerity rather than a kind of Keynesian inflationary approach. And if that's right, then I think we're in for very grim times because if Europe goes down well the entire world faces a very scary situation So we better party now while we still can

1:20:00 Well, I'm very interested in cycles and some could call it fractals. And right now I'm just thinking there's going to be some kind of civil war next five to ten years. It just seems like that's almost unavoidable. The last time this happened is what accounted for the rise of Adolf Hitler. We shouldn't think that just because we've seen something, we can't relive it. So don't take it from John and Adam listen to the professor. Just got Skype Yeah. Oh? Yeah Was he in a bucket?! Yeah, he had a bucket on his head to remain... because you know people are now after him Hey man! You trying to redefine our human rights I'm gonna put two to your head man and get out of here He wants to be anonymous now Well again we can say that we create C-SPAN so C-SPAN doesn't have too Anyway The Euro

1:20:59 So I do think we need to talk about Euroland for a few minutes because uh, we have the big conference today and tomorrow. Yeah i want to play one clip here um... I'm gonna blow off all my clips too soon but There was watching the business Lindsay something or other she's on Bloomberg News I think she was actually talking out of England studio British studios. She looks like a little Russian girl She should be hired to go to our team for sure. She's really we can do a transfer She's pretty in a funny way that but she's got a Russian look and quality about it It's interesting, but anyway so she's she had this guy Weinberg who is the

1:21:43 a technical stock market guy who invented high-frequency trading. I'm just going to throw this in, this is just a little thing i want to put out there because I've been saying this and I'm gonna continue to say it that the key to the solution is understanding what happened in 1840's, 1850's uh... to prevent economic collapse you print more money, unless you have inflation. And if there's no inflation of any consequence I'm not talking about hyperinflation You can have a relative small amount of inflation Of course we didn't have a quadrillion worth of swaps in the 1800s Beside the point they had a lot of free money was printed in the 1850s tons of it in the form of gold

1:22:24 Because as gold was discovered, just being pulled out of the ground is free money. Essentially what it is I just want to play this side note on printing money by Weinberg This guy who's an absolute genius invented high frequency trading He is just a commentator and you can take or leave it Firepower the Eurozone has to fight the crisis According to the founder of High Frequency Economics Geithner view hasn't changed only cold hard cash will make a difference. He's going to tell them the same thing he told them a few months ago when they threw him out of the room, which is that you have to address this problem with real money on the table and the central bank has to be an important part of that Weinberg also says the ECB should adopt a policy that prints as much money as it can 12 months ago Ireland This is exactly what Sarkozy wants but Merkel wants nothing of it she wants austerity measures

1:23:17 I don't blame her because Germany's had the experience. They'll pay for it though, they had the Weimar experience! They had a problem before with hyperinflation which was completely out of control in the 30s and they still remember that and they're freaky about it. They don't get it that you can control this stuff a little better I mean, but you have to understand. Hold on a second John it's in the Lisbon Treaty which you know i read In the Lisbon Treaty it specifically states The European Central Bank may not be used To inflate or bail out other countries That is that is the problem so they have to go into and this is what the whole debate Is about if you want to change the treaty then everybody has to agree to It and the Brits

1:24:07 And the Irish, at least those two will have to have a referendum. And of course no one wants the referendum because everyone said No way we don't want to be slaves So this is they're trying to slip it through somehow and come up with some fuzzy language so that they don't have To get sign off on from everybody because it was agreed to in the documents know inflationary measures for bailouts That's the problem. That's the core issue Well, it's interesting to read the article in The Economist about the real differentiation between Sarkozy and Merkel which turns out to be philosophical. Huh! Who would have figured that out with the Germans and French? I mean, they thought exactly the same. Really? But whatever the case is a very good article you can read after I've read it because they have basic philosophical problems. The problem when people start

1:25:00 fix the treaty. It's like the bills that we have, you know they're thinking about the farm animals and that one thing it's like they start mucking with everything! They just can't change one thing! Hey listen Angela, Angola, it is Nicolas here listen listen Angela I let you change a treaty if you let us sodomize farm animals this is what new thing in America are trying Nicola, Nicola! This cannot be true. Nicola, really? Really?! I thought you were already doing that so... So the point is and so I've read this and I would advise people to read if they have the wherewithal it's online

1:25:47 And ever since I read that and it says, and I've noticed as time goes by every time. I see the two of them together their body language is astonished Oh the BBC look in a way. Oh no grimace The BBC had to report have it linked in the show notes this is when Angela went to France And she goes to, so this is how it works right? This is old school. Sarkozy has her beak because of course she's German. She doesn't have the finesse. So she sticks out her hand to shake his hand. He then grabs her shoulders big power move and kisses her right in the douchebag elite politician kiss and then they're walking up the steps and then he turns her for the pictures for the press

1:26:33 Oh yeah, total power move! Total power move showing that he's in charge of the meeting. It was astounding to watch Wow she at least brushed off George Bush when he tried to like give her a neck massage remember that one? Yeah what an idiot Come here Angela, Angela baby come here baby let me give you a little neck massage Superwanked.com Meanwhile, Greece is celebrating a big celebration on January 2nd. Greece will be releasing... Really? I don't think so what is that? Dealer services something you know don't get me started Greece's celebrating on January second they will be releasing a special 10th anniversary euro coin

1:27:33 How blind are these guys that's hilarious I guess by the way if you can get me one, please. I'd love to have a want one too Oh my goodness how beautiful is that so apparently every it's a it's a rotating thing and every country will have their turn in a special 10th anniversary euro coin but Greece starts on January Before they turned to drachmas Meanwhile in Italy, this is great video and I'll just play a little bit of the audio. The Minister of Pensions who now has to... Just like Portugal where the Portuguese government said hey we took your pensions to pay off the banks hope you don't mind And everyone's like what? What did he say? Yeah excuse me! So the same thing is happening in Italy and listen. It was also psychologically

1:28:26 She's choking up, she's crying. She's literally sobbing. She can't talk cameras are flashing and then the douchebag takes over. She is literally sobbing that she has to steal the pensioners money. This is just the beginning man. This is really not going to be fun No, no it's not and it's not gonna be fun for us either. No It's not gonna be fun for anybody this is a disaster waiting to happen And it's going to happen and I feel Really feel for the next press I mean of course they're trying in our in here in the US are obviously trying to put

1:29:07 together as much draconian legislation as they can so we can just you know round people up without a trial and arrest them. Put them in a FEMA camp! And enemy combatants who have nothing to do with anything except they shake their fists at the or they complain about the government I, I can assure you and i want to remind people out there who contributed this show that there is a likelihood that criticizing the government could be made illegal. I mean it's not... Oh no, it will be! Woodrow Wilson put into play the alien and sedition laws that have been revisited every so often in short measure with occasion. I think Nixon may have had... they may have but during that era of the Wilson era

1:29:48 it was illegal to criticize the government. To criticize the government, so if we did this podcast and said you know what we normally say and played the douchebag thing one douche bag play boom there'd be somebody knocking at the door and we'd be... DOUCHEBAG! We would be fined or arrested or jailed or shot but we have to do it while we can. So here's well not only that but we need to save our money so just support the show now. That's a problem All right so here's a funny story So on, I looked it up. No Agenda episode 344 October 2nd...I said

1:30:27 Actually, I uncovered the ESM the European stability mechanism member this conversation we had Probably not. Okay This thing was signed on July 11th the 17 euro area country signed a treaty establishing the European stability Mechanism which follows the European Council decision of March 25th and builds on amendment article 136 of the treaty and what this thing is is it forces countries to Excuse me to tax up to I think it's initially 500 billion euros So these 17 countries have to come up with five hundred billion euros Taxing their people and sending them the money to Brussels. Well, you remember actually spend its cropped up a couple times in the conversation guess what?

1:31:16 I'm reading Financial Times. I'm taking a dump, right? And I'm reading the Financial Times on my Kindle. That sounds appropriate! Exactly and I see...and I'm smoking too. I'm smoking check this out because Mickey got a big laugh out of it. Did you have your gun with you?! I was almost completely in case somebody busted in. I should do that. It's not the judge. I got my coffee I got my smoke, I got my Kindle with the Financial Times and pooping I got the I got the fan on everything and I read that they're moving the ESM up from 2013 to 2012 So they're actually gonna do it. I'm so excited. I'd go to put my cigarette out between my legs. I burn my penis

1:31:58 That's, I think that's too much information. It was... I literally... Mickey had to put burn spray on it! That's Yeah, but that's what happened I was like I'm like oh my goodness look at exactly what we predicted here it is They're doing it. They're moving in from 2013 to 2012 Everyone in Europe's gonna get taxed because countries have already signed off on if they took the picture all that's in the show notes 363 dot and a shownotes comm there are all the finance ministers are smiling they just Taxed you and your money isn't going to Brussels to bail out banks Well, I tell you that to summarize it just indicates the hazards of smoking. We do have a few donors for this show, Show 363

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1:37:38 There's a chicken fried steak place there that is worth driving to just to have the chicken fried steak. So it's not Eon, it's Ian and Hawkins is... Hold on I'm zooming out here. Hawkins is near Rocket? I don't think so. It's near Winona. Oh it's south east of Dallas too far Ian Gilman in Rockford Illinois 67 a six seven dot eight nine John my name is pronounced eee and Although he's, he anticipated this. Eon! No it says ee-yon right there. Ee-yon? Oh ee-yon So you were right I was wrong i'm sorry. Ee-yon. I said ee-yon and you corrected me in that terms that I was right to begin with. I'm a douche, I'm a douche Very typical although I am donating right now do not assume that this is a vote for the discussions on food and drink It is not tell Adam that in Texas when someone says you are not from around here Are you? The correct response is NO But I got her as fast as I could Yeah I know that one

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1:41:11 Hello John Adam first-time donor here. I don't have any special de douche anything requests, but thought it'd be a good time to donate given The off the cliff situation with your income one thing I'd like to mention is one of the previous shows where you were chuckling about Obama calling Russian president Medev the dev not med medivac debative Medvedev. The fact of the matter, he says with a smiley face is that he was correct since this is how medvedev's name is pronounced in Russia with the stress on the last e Medve-bedev-medev You know I've been emailing with Alexander back and forth for quite awhile and you know he'll send me a clip and then also you know he'll send me a clip of someone from like Chechnya like that's not Russian and I'll send him a Russian chick

1:42:00 uh... from a newscast and they all pronounce it a little differently but you know who might argue with yeah okay well he's a native so whatever the case is we're not going to pronounce it correctly either. We are not, no. Zelko Marchek in Velika Gorica I don't know where that is doesn't have any follow-up here sixty dollars want to thank uh... and I'm sure the pronunciation off Mary Hague in Tom's River, New Jersey 5678 5678 get it? Austin Voss Calgary Alberta double nickels on the dime last spoon full of karma I received was has sent its non-corporeal fingers through the ether and has brought forth a potential buyer for my house. Oh beautiful! Which has been up for sale for a while nice I would like a smidge more top of the karmic gas tank to top the karmic gas tank and keep up the interest levels can you give me a little top off?

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1:51:23 I heard like yeah, I hurt like hell though because if the karma didn't work we would never know from we'd never know exactly Hopefully he'll be out of bed in a couple days hurt like hell and they can work on just getting by again But this surgery has essentially saved my life which means no agenda Karma has to I'm just saying Paul. I'm get Moes Yeah fantastic love that well soon sir Jim Spitzer is a UMass Amherst Libertarian and Chemistry grad student. Did we already do this? He wanted the karma for Witold Witauski, I think we did that right? We did that karma. I think so If not here's it just in case, I don't want to miss any karma You've got Karma And uh... Oh wow! I guess its time for the birthdays then Perfect

1:52:11 It's your birthday, birthday on No Agenda! Somehow something happened with the PayPals as it does happen so we're really sorry but we want to give a big no agenda happy birthday to Aretidarian's daughter Gracie who turned 15 and somehow we messed up on her actual date. But Gracie happy birthday from Uncle John and Uncle Adam Aaron Havens congratulates himself celebrating today. Adam Miller, tomorrow is his birthday and Sir Borislav Marinov he celebrated his birthday last Saturday Happy Birthday to all of you who brought you here at the No Agenda Show! It's your birthday yeah You know I think naming a girl Gracie Is cool You just know she has gotta be cute Oh it's an instant classic Yes its an instant classic And I think that...you know..I think A name really shapes how hot you become

1:53:07 I think it does. I think your name will influence the way you look and act So explain your daughter Jay, why that name? Mimi insisted. I wanted to name her Reed so her name would be Reed Dvorak but... Oh which is horrible! Everybody says that was just horrible they even think that Was that the only choice you had?! No, there was a dad. Mimi had this that J is with an e right Jay ye no j-a-e Oh Jay I'm sorry right Typical hippie name let's kind of a hippie name yeah That's beautiful though and your daughter is beautiful so it worked JC JC on the other hand what can we say you know takes after dad? You know you named him John as a classic. Yeah Jean Claude. It's a classic

1:53:59 Exactly. Hey, we got a little nighting to do here John so if you wouldn't mind putting down the slide whistle and grabbing your blade there Adam Miller I don't know if you even know it yourself sir But you have contributed to the no agenda podcast the best podcast in the universe In the amount of at least $1,000 and therefore We want you to kneel son stick out your finger We're gonna slip on a knight ring And we hear by pronounce thee Sir Adam Miller Knight of the Noah's Ark agenda roundtable come on over buddy we got your hookers and blow right here your rent boys in chardonnay, your booze and hot pants it's a bonanza on the best podcast in the universe! Wow you're adding a lot of embellishments to the little speech. Well that's a big deal you know someone becomes a knight is like it's like uh like a bar mitzvah almost It is same thing. It's more like a bris actually

1:54:52 That's just a matter of opinion. Hey, uh... Exciting news John! This past December, December 1st and this is an official NASA picture NASA stereoscopic spacecraft recorded a wave of electrically charged material shooting out from the Sun blasting mercury it looks like as my fellow alien hunters all agree Like a spaceship was uncloking. The mothership is here." Yeah, go ahead laugh all you want my friend. Laugh all you want Now no coincidence that on Saturday we have a huge lunar eclipse Lunar eclipse on Saturday What time does the lunar eclipse begin?

1:55:47 333 am PST. Oh, yeah It's a magic number Magic Cool is that and it'll be visible to observers in the southwest So does that mean me? I'm out. Yeah, you'll be there You'll check in on the Southwest right we're in the Southwest be able to see at 333 a.m.. So I think we're gonna have a combo shot here yeah, you won't even get up look Yeah Well are you kidding because I think the mothership will uncloak and we'll be able to see it Yeah, man, you'd laugh

1:56:25 Okay, then let me lift your spirits for a second here John. Let me lift your spirits Penn State we would call that home of what? Pedophiles I'm thinking more an animal Sheep No the pedo bear Oh pedo bear right now Do you think that it is pedo bear or is it petto bear? Oh, that's a good question but I think we've always been pronouncing it P-do bear because it's funnier. I think that is also the true... if you're on the interwebs It's pido bear no one says pedo bear doesn't sound like a pedicure doesn't sound right. Pedobear right?

1:57:10 Yeah, pedo. Well not according to local news station KRQE. Good afternoon I'm Kim Baez it looks innocent enough a cartoon bear with the big smile but the attorney general says it is a dangerous symbol targeting children The character known as Pedobear has recently popped up in the city and authorities say parents need to be on guard Be on guard? News 13's Selena Westervelt has details from downtown Come on Selena tell us about Pedobear They're so clueless, these people. Someone said... Hey I can do this report how do I pronounce it? Uh, it's Ped-o Bear No its not, It's Pee-to Bear you douche What?!

1:57:58 Are you listening? Do we have a story like this about a year ago with some other idiot. It's back though and they're doing, yeah I know what it is crazy And they're actually showing pictures of like Penn State pedo bear bumper stickers and stuff is great It's filled with them but its so good. He worried that pedophiles are hiding behind the cartoon and victimizing children What?! There are peop- This by the way, you know what? Tell me- This is the same thing this other douchebag said. Yeah yeah no- That somehow people who use this joke as which is a really a point of ridicule and uses symbolic kind of a comment where you have situations that are sketchy and you want to say wait a minute something screwy going on that you this is used commonly. This is not used by pedophiles. Yes it is yes it's like they got a big giant thing in there John, you're so wrong! You are wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong! They have an expert

1:58:51 Listen to the expert people out there after their children and they are using this cute cuddly little bear as an insignia comes up with this stuff. Okay, do you want to know what she's an expert in because she's never lower third? I'm an expert in what ecommerce Oh. He's just an e-commerce consultant! This is Pedo Bear. I love, I love the girls they make me love They've got the whole thing it like they got their cartoons going and everything What started as a popular Japanese cartoon is now a symbol for unthinkable crimes against children The bear's cute The bear IS cute The bears not cute at all It's creepy But that is what

1:59:35 The pedophiles are using to identify each other. To identify each other! Ah, hey do you have the secret uh pedo bear? Yeah there's a secret pedo bear I got a drawing of it. I got a tattoo of it man. With the state attorney general's office says predators use pedo bear online he can be placed in children's games to attract them to pedophiles websites. The New Mexico Attorney General's Internet Crimes Against Childrens Unit has received reports this month about the sticker being seen on two cars in Albuquerque. One near the University of New Mexico there is even a shop that makes those stickers in Las Cruces

2:00:18 This is not simply dark humor. This is not a joke Attorney General Gary King's office takes this very seriously We will pursue every lead that we get For some people, Pedobear is a joke He's a cult like I'm looking at you Dvorak Following online but one I have nothing to do with the pedobear Enforcement isn't laughing They say child predators often hide behind the humor Pedophiles have been no that's good. We're hiding behind the humor Oh, No Oh No to buy the costume of the bear and then wear them to get close to kids doing such things as handing out candy we don't know where he's going to show up if we can protect just one child

2:01:00 We win. We've done our job. Yes, ow! No it's not illegal to display a pedo-bear sticker and the man who sells them in Las Cruces says that pedo bear stickers make up about 1% of his sales Now listen now listen to her tag on the story is genius Okay thanks Selena now law enforcement says if you do see a peta bear image use caution with whatever situation are in If you see a pedo bear sticker use caution with whatever situation you're in Oh people. To me this is marginalizing the actual problem of course it is and making it this is the same thing as you know making peeing in the park a sexual crime thank you and you know showing somebody mooning uh you know passing busses sexual crime putting people on sex sex offender list whatever they're called what are they? It's a sex offenders lists to cover up

2:02:03 Whatever really bad stuff is actually happening like with the sandusky for example And just marginalize everything so make everything you know this you know to just create a bus smoke screen that Everybody knows the pedo bear what it is and why its uses. It's a bit's a point of ridicule, and it's not used by I don't even think half the pedophiles that would be hanging out in a park, for example, even know what this thing is. It's really an internet joke! Hello? Pedophiles don't hang out in the park they are in government Well, there you have it. But whatever they get but probably in the New Mexico offices there I mean it seems to me that they're making a big stink about something for some why what is their real? What is the real agenda of this TV station and that district attorney's office or whatever? I think there's something very fishy very fishy Well something else is going on in New Mexico, New Mexico State University Las Cruces right near the white sands of Las Cruces

2:03:01 Did you know that they actually provide drone? piloting courses Wow, yeah and And this was and you know We were looking at the at the jobs act which of course completely dead remember that whole bandwidth thing we were we were talking about and I thought it was for AT&T or something so The the guy who runs The program there Doug Davis director of the unmanned aircraft program at New Mexico State University says There are technical obstacles why we can't have fully automated planes. So this of course is about, he's not talking about drones he's talking about regular airlines He says the civilian variety can't communicate with ground stations because they don't have enough bandwidth there's not enough frequency spectrum We have to compete for it with all these mobile phones and other demands

2:03:56 Ho ho so maybe that 700 megahertz spectrum that Obama wants to put into the domain is about drones There's something fishy going on and let me play the clip, and I don't know if you picked up on this but But this the clip of the FAA administrator being picked up for alcoholism. You have to remember that this guy was the head of the pilots union or pilot's association. This is a douchebag who we played a clip from earlier, remember that? He was he he is totally on board with the whole drone thing. We play... Well he seems to be I'm not absolutely sure what's going on and who took him out, but he has been taken out uh... of the picture for one reason or another and this drunken driving thing there something screwy about it because

2:04:47 You play the clip and then I'll tell you what. I think is nuts about it, and we have breaking news tonight Just before airtime we learned that the head of the Federal Aviation Administration Has stepped down days after Randy Babbitt was arrested for drunk driving He is out ABC senior justice correspondent Pierre Thomas has the latest on this developing story Pierre George Randy Babbitt resigned today and it's pretty much because the facts dictated that he had to go. The FAA chief was arrested Saturday, and he was not just driving under the influence. The police report stated that he was driving on the wrong side of a busy Virginia highway at 1030 Saturday night It is the holiday season and at that time of night that road is usually really crowded

2:05:27 The FAA is under the Transportation Department, which has made drunk driving a priority. And his arrest comes as a difficult moment for the FAA, which oversees the safety of the nation's airports. This year air traffic controllers have been caught literally sleeping on the job and and george that apparently did not know if i was bosses until monday afternoon nearly two days after the incident not good and with that the story career of the former president of the air policy association came to a screeching halt there is no way he could stay up here thanks very much okay couple things as though we can state breaking news a bc

2:06:03 you know, suspect operation and the breaking news thing. It's like what if this is a national news right? They don't have break- This is not like the local news where you have breaking news. Ladies and gentlemen we have breaking news! Breaking News! Watch out! Breaking News! Guy drunk! So I'm thinking he was drugged to get him out of the picture because He's driving at...this is 1030 at night. He didn't turn to report until Monday when it was actually a work day Was he supposed to report over the weekend? I don't think so Whatever the case was he is driving on the wrong side of the road at 1030 this is not even like two in the morning one and a morning where somebody could really be plastered. This guy's either got a really bad drinking problem, they should have been caught sooner or he was drugged and then shoved in his car now he's driving on the wrong side of the road I mean this whole thing is just reeks of a setup and he's done! And I don't know who set him up it was like the one side of the debate or another but the fact that

2:07:00 is the fact that he was this is not a story, this story is uncommon. This is not just some drunk guy He was pushed out of his job for some reason I'm looking him up now at search dot NA show notes dot com and so we have a couple stories on him as indeed you know when the controllers were falling asleep here we have UAV conference 2011 participants I think we had a clip of him talking about how, you're right there's something very fishy going on and i think the guy is lucky.

2:07:43 Seriously? Well maybe he wasn't, like... Maybe they were trying to kill him. Maybe! He just- They didn't manage it. Maybe he's auditioning for... Win, Lose or Drone That's right Randy Babbitt come on down Stop driving on the other side of the road my friend because you can get a drone up your a-hole It's time for you to play... Win, Lose or Drone Let's meet our lovely contestant Randy He had to go. Had to go? Well, let's keep our eye on the bandwidth thing though I thought that was very interesting Yeah it is interesting they're not gonna get pull this off What oh no i think they're really going to try They're... I think its just gonna be a money sink It's the way to collect money from the suckers Anything in The Times about Syria

2:08:42 Yes, actually I do have the Times with me. Goody goody goody! Where'd it go? There it is. Goody goody goody! So the front page of The New York Times today is a blogovich looking contrite. Yeah, looking screwed. Totally screwed. Thing on Britain suffering as bystanders to Euro crisis that would be British want to have more input into what how they get screwed by the EU And then we go, there's nothing on the front page at all as usual. And then we go to the international news deep deep deep into the paper and we do have Climate, there's an interesting climate talk story floating around. Now who cares? The big stories and these are inside There is the drone crash Libyan civilians hold on to deadly legacy And here it is on page, its moved up from where it was on page 16 last time It was below the fold now its up to page 8 above the fold Under siege Syrian government officials deny role and refuse to budge

2:09:45 Now, this is why this is interesting because Lucifer said the following. questions and concerns about their future. So she's talking about the Syrian opposition who apparently she now talks with, and there is indeed a Syrian National Council just like the Libyan National Council, the Transitional National Council. They have no website John but they do have a PDF and there's like 40 guys on this council! No sorry 60...no

2:10:30 71 guys on the council and I started to Google these guys forget about it. Ibrahim El Yousef, well there's like 8 million of those guys on Facebook. Ahmad Ramadan, really? Ahmad Shaker, Badr Yammus, Jan Abdallah Jamal Al-Wadi, I mean you can't get anything on Google is completely useless. I can't get it because I'm sure Jim Smith basically Really? Louise Safi Omar Idlib II Afra jalabi I mean it's impossible and this is just one here Moti al-bateen Come on you google that it just you know you get nothing

2:11:17 And you know, they have no website. So I think now that we have page 8 above the fold we have Lucifer meeting with them...I think a website is in the make Yeah there'll be a website There's something there- I think their holding back on actually going ahead with anything after what's happening in Egypt which is a disaster that has not been reported at all except on Israel and I do have the unreported Egyptian election votes Before I run this, do you know how the elections came out in Egypt? There was voting you know. Yes they held it back Well play the unreported Egyptian election votes They had their results but they said we're not going to tell your slaves So they told them Now final results from the first round of Egyptian elections show Islamist parties winning a strong majority The Muslim Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party won 40% of votes

2:12:16 In second place is the hardline Salafist Al-Nur party on 24% and the liberal coalition group Egyptian bloc has 13 percent of the votes. You know this is actually quite funny, thirteen percent of the votes in other words are they're normal you know liberals as it were those other two parties are extreme Islamists groups especially the ones that get to twenty four percent the salafists those guys are nasty that's the wahhabist And so you've got a basic, essentially a basic takeover of Egypt by exactly what we didn't want or we did want. Which are these very aggressive pro-Islamist create a Sharia government attack Israel group I don't know i didn't hear about that anywhere No it's not interesting Anderson Cooper is no longer in Daniel Square

2:13:14 Because it's all, everyone had to go to Russia to try and rig the elections there. Well, while we're on the topic... Apparently the Russians had a bunch of riots that seem to be unreported. And this is also from Al Jazeera which is Riots in Russia clip and then This is the clip that has the music behind it There was no music behind the last clip you just listened to but there's music Behind this one for some reason Police in Russia's two largest cities have arrested dozens of protesters Rallying for a third day against what they say were rigged elections Mikhail Gorbachev, the last leader of the Soviet Union says that the Kremlin should annul the results. I'll bet you that's some kind of nationalistic song they're supposed to be maybe sitting around somewhere but whatever the case Gorbachev says they should annull the results? I don't remember hearing this from anywhere. Did you see Chechnya had 99.5% of the vote

2:14:16 Yeah. Yeah, right. A turnout 99 point 51 percent of the voters turned out to vote yeah right okay sure and then Fox is a funny video they showed the rioting Fox showed it But the video that they show, they cut in a protest with footage of riot police with you know that's supposed to look like Russia. But you see palm trees on the street. They just cut in some other riot footage Hey, hey buddy we got a I don't have enough b-roll on this riot Let's say what she got there? I guess and some crap from somewhere man Yeah looks kind of smoky you won't see the palm tree use it. Okay. Yeah, let's roll with it Stupid television people do you think you can get anything by us? I don't think so We're on the job

2:15:17 So I also have a side light. Turn on your side light! JC is pals, that age group... There's a meme going around saying the entire Herman Cain campaign was a parody That the whole thing is a comedy act. Oh, this is the Pokemon thing? Well I got the Pokemon clip which you can play as Cain in The Pokemon Movie You can play that quickly Right... You know Herman Cain seemed to sense that his supporters needed something to lift their spirits Which is what led to Herman Cain saying the greatest nine words ever spoken by an American politician! I believe these words came from The Pokemon movie

2:16:06 So he mentions that there's a bunch of crazy stuff that he did, the 999, the showing up late on the bus. All these things...a big giant bus with his head on the side he mentions that there's a belief that this may be the whole thing may have been put on because he started the campaign with a Spongebob clip and talked about any quoted spongebob and if you start looking, I remember that. You get a different impression of the entire campaign if you think of it...the whole thing as actually a creation of performance art is it were from the get-go

2:16:42 I can see it being a possibility. Not just that, i think its the elites laughing in our face like look at what we can do with these stupid people! We could make them turn their clocks forward and backward and we could make them believe this guy is actually going to run become president. Let's put some stupid crap in there, like I don't know a whole bunch of nines upside down at 666 and put Spongebob but hey let him wear a crazy cowboy hat and then this really hot chick say that he pushed her head into his crotch and then...I know! Let's have him have a 13 year affair with an ugly chick

2:17:21 This is great. This is really funny, that's what going on I believe that I'm totally on board with that theory. I'm leaning in that direction Yeah sure And Newt Gingrich is the same thing It's a possibility whatever the case it's a farce Listen, we needed this. We had 30 debates and now that he's out of the way who is the next best thing next to Spongebob and Pokemon? Donald Trump! Yeah Trump is a clown It's totally perfect Makes so much sense I'm buying it. I'm right there So what do you make out of this story

2:18:00 This one here seems like some sort of a setup for some disinformation, misinformation something or other. I have not really been able to figure it out but play this the clip is summarizes Qaddafi in Mexico plot foiled? Oh yeah A plot's been uncovered to smuggle one of Muammar Gaddafi's sons to exile in Mexico. Mexican authorities say that they foiled the scheme to get Saadi Gaddafi, the third son of the former Libyan leader and other members of his family, to a resort in Mexico. Frank Contreras reports Muammar Gaddafi's son, Sadi is known for his preference to life's luxuries and this beach resort on Mexico's Pacific coast would have fallen into that category. According to Mexican authorities the tranquil shores of Bahia Banderas is where a former professional soccer player and his family planned to live out their lives in secret. Mexico's interior minister announced how those plans had been spoiled and outlined the details involved in the alleged plot

2:18:59 The plan to illegally smuggle Mr. Gaddafi and his family into our country first consisted of providing them with fake Mexican identities. This was a successful Mexican intelligence operation At least three suspects, including a Canadian businesswoman were arrested in November for allegedly hatching the illegal plan in which Saidi Gaddafi and his family would fly in a private jet from Western Africa to Mexico The plot also included secret bank accounts, allegedly set up to buy Mexican properties that would have been turned into safe houses for Sadi Gaddafi. The 38-year old son of the late dictator has been living under house arrest in the West African nation of Niger. Interpol has issued an arrest warrant for his alleged role in ordering security forces to kill Libyan rebels

2:19:51 Yeah, this is obviously to make the Mexican authorities look good in light of Fast and Furious. I can't see it any other way That's initially what i think too but there are other elements to this that don't make any sense like Qaddafi is under house arrest but he's going to fly out Right, private jet. Just that alone and then what it's like he can go to if he get out of the country at all you can go there so there's non-extradition areas they didn't go and get political asylum I believe you still do that in Paraguay or Uruguay or Argentina and he could always go there so this whole thing is just bogus Bogative yes even worse So Jay...I'm sorry

2:20:31 I just don't, I mean i just found the whole thing to be odd. It went nowhere but it went nowhere these are trial balloons you know they float stuff... No traction and I was amused by that thought they were trying to get some attention they it just didn't get anywhere but it was interesting what a lame approach it was wasn't very well executed. Horribly dumb but its a trial balloon like Like the guy who tried to assassinate the president and leaving his gun behind. Oh, the guy that shot at The White House? That's just a trial man... That never got anywhere either No but they just want to see how long it lasts you know and that died off 72 hours later boom its gone thats the news cycle Never hear about the guy again he is back in Langley Yeah where is back in Langley He has got a haircut now and he is back at his desk

2:21:22 It's all groovy. It's not a problem, you know it everything is good now The not so drunk Irish IT engineer Jamie Muffy sent me Sent me an article that kind of blew me away because you know I'm the big believer in the earthquake machine and my original theory on Fukushima Daiichi that this is China who created a tsunami wave for a whole bunch of reasons and by the way if you and looks more in these days looking more and more like it was a nuclear explosion if you look at all of the size seismographs all the data doesn't look at all like an earthquake. It looks like a boom, a big explosion but that's neither here nor there but Bill Gates confirmed

2:22:13 When is this from? This is from yesterday, I think. No! From today that he is in discussions with China to develop...to jointly develop a new and safer kind of nuclear reactor and this is with He's doing this with his Washington state-based company Terra Power which you may be familiar with John having some residents up there. Terra Power says it's traveling wave reactor would run for decades on depleted uranium and produce significantly smaller amounts of nuclear waste than conventional reactors. Here's what Gates said, all these new designs are going to be incredibly safe they require no human action to remain safe at all times and he said they benefit from the ability to simulate earthquake and tidal wave conditions Hello!

2:23:13 What? Yes. What is he referring to that the company that he invested in... They have the ability or the company has the ability to earthquake what I'll repeat exactly what he says they have they also benefit from an ability to simulate earthquake and tidal wave conditions. The reactors benefit from the ability mm-hmm how does a depleted uranium Nuclear reactor, Bill? Hey hello the thing what it's called the... What is it? The traveling wave reactor. Please! Don't you see what's going on John? Bill Gates is in the middle of the whole earthquake wars

2:24:01 That's a good one. You've topped yourself! See, you laugh and you make me laugh but I actually mean it We have a winner Alright i think we gotta get out of here But I got one more thing we can do before you do it Uh yeah You can play this clip on top of the music Okay See if you can pick up on the new terms for what a hooter restaurant is called Several class-action lawsuits against Hooters says he's reached a settlement with several of the Sacramento area restaurants and bars Did she say bust ronce? She said breast or restaurant That's a good one breasts.com yeah, we should get that website We should get the website right it somebody out there breasts restaurants Hooters restaurant restaurant just restaurants Restaurants that's good

2:24:50 Everybody coming here from Camp Mofo here in the capital of the Lone Star State, the great state of Tejas. In the morning I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where that crazy fog came and went in this time of the show it's weird But I'm in California still. I'm John C. Dvorak We will be back again on Sunday with another episode of the best podcast in the universe right here On no agenda and of course remember we have that end-of-show clip from Jon Stewart coming up adios mofos See what wacky provisions got folded into this year's bill. The provisions authorize the indefinite military detention of American citizens who are suspected of involvement in terrorism, even those captured here in our own country, in the United States which I think should concern each and every one of us Yes

2:25:59 I agree with you. That is somewhat concerning, a bill that allows the government to lock up an American citizen indefinitely without a trial thus apparently nullifying the fourth amendment of the constitution i can see why seven senators voted against it um... I would have thought we had like nine or baker's dozen but alright uh... Can only imagine though the senate debate on the bill was pretty We have approximately a half hour on each side. I'm wondering how much Senator Graham needs? Ten minutes, is that too much five minutes? Could you do five minutes, Ken? Seven. We have seven speakers on this side Okay, well i'll try to be quick Try and do eight minutes would that be okay Yeah, I'll try to do as quickly as I can I can eliminate that freedom in six minutes! Archive! Eliminate That Freedom Each side of this debate had half an hour

2:27:00 For the debate on eliminating one of the most basic protections of citizenship, we require at least...at least! The running time of two broke girls. Including commercials this is not a banana republic Would it be enough time to make the case against the bill? Rand Paul of Kentucky go! Detaining citizens without a court trial is not American I didn't even click the start button yet. Well, that's a pretty persuasive case against what's the case for? The senator from Kentucky wants to have a situation prevail where people are released and go back in the fight and kill Americans. That's he's right is entitled opinion

2:27:49 Yes, that's what he wants. That is the Jewish grandmother-ist argument I have ever heard for indefinite detention of American citizens! The senator from Kentucky wants that bad people should be able to kill us? I think they shouldn't but what do i know about I'm just an old man with anger management issues. I don't know Speaking of Jewish grandmothers, what is senator Carl Levin think of this bill? Al-Qaeda's at war with us They brought that war to our shores Do you think we want to keep Americans in prison forever? Of course We don't this hurts us more than it hurts them

2:28:36 Alright, let's hear a less Jewish argument. We're facing an enemy not a common criminal organization who will do anything and everything possible to destroy our way of life So we are going to destroy it before they can get their hands on it Yes here is the little one you come on up I must have the precious Come on up Dvorak.org slash N-A