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00:00 When he says folks, that would be the key word for the message. Adam Curry John C. Dvorak And Sunday October 30th 2011 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 352 This is no agenda Racing for the Euroquake here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in The People's Republic of Southern California In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where over modulation is the theme I am John C. Dvorak Am I over modulating on you now every time you know we're chatting away And I see when you start to show and then all of a sudden that is from I start the talk about needle. Oh Well, we've only been doing it for 352 episodes so by now you should have learned No Okay

00:51 Well in the morning to you John C. DuBois. I assume everything is the same and in the morning to you Adam Curry all ships at sea, boots on the ground feet in the air and balloons in the sky And drones over Texas! And of course uh... The human resources in the chat room who have shown up for this lovely Sunday our Halloween weekend Of course all of you are depreciating rapidly Although with inflation I think actually we might all be reset back to our 9.2 million dollar value and you can find them in the chat room and you can join them every single Thursday Saturday morning Please adjust for your time zone no agenda stream calm No agenda chat net which is I guess get my nation East adjusted their time today Which i'm sure somehow was screwing the occupy Wall Street people

01:39 Well, what's screwing the Occupy Wall Street people is the weird and I guess it hasn't happened for 200-300 years a snowfall in October. Yeah you know... Global warming! Well you can call it that. Measles? I think not or maybe just someone said hey turn on the machine give these guys some snow You know weather modification is nothing new That's totally possible. The Chinese made it snow during the Olympics, or they blocked the snow during the Olympics and made it snow somewhere else Why wouldn't they do that? Why wouldn't they do that? Because they can't What you can make it snow making it snow is easy Make it snow in Africa then Well within reason you could make it snow okay Although uh... It doesn't make any sense In fact I think quite the opposite of what we're seeing here is The Obama administration actually

02:36 pushing back on all of the mayors, that's why the mayor of Oakland had to come out and apologize because Obama or I guess Valerie Jarrett let's just call her President Valerie she said this is a really good theme this is a really good idea we need to connect with people on the street Barack! Barack here do this for your weekly YouTube address Barack say this. This week a new economic report confirmed what most Americans already believe to be true Over the past three decades, the middle class has lost ground while the wealthiest few have become even wealthier. In fact, the average income for the top 1% of Americans has risen almost seven times faster than the income of the average middle-class family." There you go! Taking a one percent meme and using it! It's pretty blatant. The president is just going to keep harping on this it's gonna have its effect and your gonna end up with more taxes

03:32 But the joke is of course there'll be more taxes for everybody. So I've been following what the president has been doing because there's a lot of dissent everywhere now and it's just kind of fun to watch, you know it's kind of like flailing arms in the river there and this we can't wait thing as that you know this little bit out of control What's the rush? Well he is King Obama now and you know, he keeps saying the same thing over and over again. Well if Congress can't do it I'm going to do it! We can't wait! Somehow though they found time this week to debate things like whether or not we should mint coins to celebrate the baseball hall of fame Hey hey that's my gig Obama Stop watching C-Span I was all ready to harp about that

04:21 Yet he takes that from us. Why would he take that from us? Why would we even bring it up, who cares there's always somebody arguing about what kind of coin we should make Well he tied into this And meanwhile they're only scheduled to work three more weeks between now and the end of the year The truth is we can no longer wait We can no longer wait...we just cant wait Have you looked at that jobs bill its 165 pages of everything except This is typical It's called a job bill I don't see the jobs part of it Well no there's only... New FCC regulations, new slum housing rules. High-speed rails People should go get this thing and read it and tell me where their jobs creation is Or just go back to uh was it maybe? Just call it the Jobs Bill It's bullcrap Maybe three four five six episodes ago we dissected the entire thing And you're right its filled with bennies for the banks To buy foreclosed homes really cheap

05:20 uh... and rent them out it's a filled with the high-speed rail crap at the only thing that's a job which is in and and to his credit He's saying, you know pass this bill and then we'll get people back to work. Yeah government people because essentially it's like let's pay the teachers let's pay the firefighters but that's government money so it's not really creating anything other than you know like Obama jobs And by the way even though I haven't been able to find it in there I know there has got to be There is a huge problem going on nobody wants to talk about These banks have foreclosed and own all these houses, right? They're not paying taxes. Where's the property taxes being paid on these houses? The banks are paying IOUs to say oh we shouldn't have to pay the property taxes there's a huge property tax liability that the banks own

06:10 owned and they're gonna try to slip it to the buyers or whoever they dump these properties on but the fact of the matter is their in arrears on many of these properties and I think people should start going down to City Hall or or the county offices wherever it isn't find these and insist that there be tax sales like they do with any other property If I own back, owe back taxes on my property after about two or three years they get sick of it and they put the property up for auction. This is already getting to the point where these properties should be auctioned for pennies on the dollar if these banks won't pay their taxes! I didn't realize that do they not have to? Or are just not doing it? They're not doing it course they have to you get property tax as property tax You own property you got to pay taxes on it Huh well thats not right

06:59 No, of course not. It's another scam! That's gonna tie... Wait a minute we're getting screwed that's not right I want to hear... When i see these banks start loaning money again jack up the property tax rates and make them pay or put the properties on the auction block That'll loosen up some purse strings, but nobody's doing that are they? No. Ooh John you sound a little angry about all this. It's ridiculous why do I have to pay property taxes the bank takes over our house down the street why aren't they paying property taxes? Oh we'll pay later! Because they're uh...I don't know because they they their donors your boner and their donors They donate to the president and they get to do what they want to do

07:46 Remember that douchebag Russell Simmons? Yeah. And he was one of the first people to come out and sit with the Occupy Wall Street people, and he's like talking all those... He came out?! Do you know that he is actually a bankster? I wouldn't surprise you, but no. which let's see you pay $9.95 a month has a one-time activation fee of 3.95 it could be up to 14.95 depending on which kind of card you choose, a two dollar fifty ATM withdrawal fee after that after you use your 2 count them two free withdrawals per month and then it has

08:44 all kinds of penalties if you know, because of course you can't really overdraft a debit card but if you do it so if you got like 20 bucks in your account and try to charge 30 then you get a $25 penalty fee. This guy is just one of the douchebags magazine a while ago actually confronted him before all this started, before he sat down and was chanting at Occupy Wall Street they confronted him about it. You were talking about your financial services company yeah um... and the prepaid debit card tell me what's another word for financial services company? Isn't that like bank? Yes! How do you react to some of the criticism that the car has received over fees

09:26 Well, first they're uneducated. They're uneducated! Those people who criticize the cards... They just dumb And they're wrong. They're wrong! Regarding... He sounds like Mike Tyson Yeah it's fees Yeah he has a Mike Tyson sound. Total I would say JPMorgan's report Oh because we all read JPMorgan's report Says that to run my account A Unirush account Unirush? Unirush haha It costs about $200 dollars a year Oh really?! and to run a free bank account It cost about 400. How does that how does a free bank account cost you $400? I have no idea, never heard of such thing. JP Morgan report this costs only cost two hundred dollars two hundred dollars a year with Unirush yeah and so there's a mis... it's easy for the big companies to want to dump on us but they're migrating from the banks to our business oh yeah

10:17 It's very inexpensive, it builds credit. You can transfer your money card to card you don't have to pay for anything else. Go to Western Union and spend a fortune. At first it was for underserved communities, 60 million people who absolutely... Then we saw the business and we said hey let's screw the undeserved people. Let's go make some money! Saved a fortune by having a rush card but as technology evolved and prices went down then we find ourselves way cheaper than the banks We don't have brick-and-mortar, we got technology. We've got technology So the guy is just a shill

11:02 He's a douchebag shill and he should be called out. I bet she's not gonna go down to occupy Wall Street anymore! I would suggest that 90% of the audience doesn't even know who he is Russell Simmons? Of course our audience knows who he is! My, my... Oh please! You've been in the music business all the time and you think everyone knows who Russell Simmons is. Come on! Everyone gx2 in the chat room was like Who is this guy?! Alright, Russell Simmons was a huge impresario. He's like huge in the music business alright well my daughter knows who he is. He's also a tastemaker He's basically the one who has promoted showing your underwear, low riding pants. That baseball cap that is on sideways all of that stuff is from him I mean people have heard of Def Jam haven't they? People know it Yeah they've heard of Def Jam so... So he's Russell Simmons the guy who started Def Jam Nobody pays attention to that part Speaking of which The new book

12:00 I want my MTV, the unedited history of music television came out or is coming out tomorrow. And i got a copy and was interviewed for the book and the No Agenda podcast is mentioned in the book Good! Yeah so we should see it big like a whopping $50 donation coming from that If that... It's fun read though. It's pretty good What's the best dirt in there? Well, it's all good dirt. The way they did it is I haven't really ever seen this... essentially they interviewed a lot of people. I know they interviewed me for like five hours and recorded it all on tape and they transcribed it and just put all these quotes one after another for 600 pages about different topics It was pretty interesting! A long read but they had my quotes right so I presume that everyone else's quotes right

13:00 And as it turns out, what I suspected and now know for sure that I was fired from Headbangers Ball thanks to Axl Rose and Doug Herzog. Axl Rose got me fired Why? Because his heroine buddy was Ricky Rackman Of course Ricky Rackman has no talent They were watching me on Headbangers Ball and Axl says hey man wouldn't you want to be a VJ And uh, he said don't worry I'll make a call. Of course Axl Rose calls MTV they're all blowing him and then like 24 hours later i was off the show hold on that's deplorable it's totally deplorable the-I fought to get Guns N' Roses played on the channel no one wanted to play it and that's my thanks

13:52 So you, wait a minute. Yeah it's true You got them to play Guns N' Roses made them so successful at least on the channel that they could call up and have you fired Yes Well there is a difference That's pretty ironic Well there is a difference between Guns N' Roses and Axl Rose I mean Axl Rose is a maniac And I don't think the guys in the band actually like him But yeah, no it's true MTV would not touch Guns N' Roses They're like we can't play this He's got a video where he is getting electrocuted in an electric chair. And I'm like, yeah play! Then they started playing him and then it got me fired. Serves you right. And look at where i am now.

14:38 I thought you were doing a beg for money podcast. That's getting, that got no traction this week! No oh my goodness what happened we fell into a hole did our show suck so bad last week? It must have because we have one... We should might also get to the point and mention our one lone executive producer Holy moly yeah who is not even an American we don't have any huge American audience Not one person in the United States or Canada for that matter Or the UK where they speak some English uh... some version of it to help us but we do have dick modro of uh... june dollop a western australia came in with two hundred thirty three dollars and eleven cents i'm as a readers note yeah please do all you need our executive producer for today show everyone else gets nothing greetings once more from the land of oz i suspect john had trouble reading my previous note due to my considerable lack of punctuation is sore point of many of my teachers in the past

15:33 So I find myself donating once more sooner than i thought as the mean propag- as the meme propagating, by the way it's M.E.M.E for people who want to know how to spell that, propagating through the internet about my adultery is growing and I'm concerned this secret service will soon be on me." Wait a minute this is the guy well he wrote a weird note and I said well so he was in adulterer And now he's trying to, I guess re-karmalize himself to get off of that. That is bad mojo, I apologize. Could I please have a dee douche to clean my philandering? And you want some karma as well right? Should we do a double shot here? You've been Dee Douched! You've got Karma! I think I blew out everybody's speakers. It also allows me live a purer more transparent lifestyle just explain my adultery it is my wife that became suspicious first

16:23 as every three to four nights someone sends me a message on my iPhone usually at midnight Australian time allowed in the morning greeting Adam's bat signal it was easily explained to her and I thought for a good good it was good for a laugh but turned into a full-blown adultery by so sorry Oh, well he was unclear. I didn't understand what was going on Well he's a little more clear this time in other words Well you know what but happily married You should be happy because of my horrible faux pas at least we got some money Yeah which is part of our model For Halloween Hey we insult our listeners so they donate again

17:05 I wonder, maybe it is. Let me get a list of all the other adulterers who listen to the show Just call them out you're an adulterer man Bastards donate to make use that word Well only adulterers would know The man is an adulterer So Clinton would be one Yes oh yeah Oh yeah well Hillary's and adulterous as well I mean we don't know for fact but We can kind of guess That's what everyone says Could be wrong. Maybe she could be chased. Well we do appreciate your support once again Dirk, thank you so much and of course you will receive the title of Executive Producer for those who don't know an executive producer title on The No Agenda Show is just as valid

17:50 Hawaii 5-0 or Special Victims Unit CSI. I mean it's all the same because what you do is you get to support the episode and you get a credit for that, The only difference between us and Hollywood is unlike the phonies in Hollywood we'll vouch for that credit if you call us about it And also unlike Hollywood You don't get to bang any chicks We don't have any that's kind of the... well it is true isn't it? I mean when you're an executive producer in Hollywood, you get to help cast and all that stuff. You get to do all the crew stuff. A lot these guys are just money guys! They don't get that opportunity. I think there's a lure. Look what you might be able to do here they bring in the starlets and you know I don't think every executive producer works on Law & Order and dozens and dozens of them screwing

18:42 the hell by a spoken like a man who has not lived in hollywood dude after all that's a few years now and i agree but it just doesn't make sense to me that no much action it would be as I think to be more photos you have no idea everyone's got these phones now you think if you have a shot oh you have no idea with some some girl yeah it's out there It's out there. Speaking of Hawaii... So it is basically a bang fest in Hollywood and you're moving to Austin, Texas? Hell yeah! I can't get nothing here, I gotta get me some Texas girls and boys being bicurious You know what, I read an interesting theory about Hawaii Five-0 which of course is a horrific show I mean its horrible And you were all over the beginning and yet still aren't

19:29 Yeah, it's astonishing. Well the theory was that because all of Hawaii all of the elites there and government, this is not my theory but I read it and really liked it because they've all participated in the cover up of Barack Obama's birth his non-birth in Hawaii that this was payback by no only putting Hawaii 5.0 on the air making him look so awesome but by keeping on the air where he doesn't deserve to be on the air at all And I thought that was a pretty good theory I kinda liked it. Like, well... Could be! Yeah!

20:09 Hey, we have a couple of PR initiatives people always check in. By the way I want to mention that people did they help it We need some more help than we got this week and i would appreciate the people especially with the truckers driving 24-7 and listening to our show all the time Dvorak.org slash NA please go and continue uh To bring up the numbers a little bit jeez well also something we didn't mention And I'm hoping that people are just saving up um Friday in a week is 11111. Tomorrow and Tuesdays 1111 which is one right so we have a number of 1111 campaigns at Dvorak.org where you can help support the show what we have noticed in the past is that these numerology is interesting people like it and there is a belief that karma comes to you from surrounding yourself with these numbers

21:06 I'm not saying that this is not a selling point, in fact it's quite a weak one. But we'd appreciate if you consider that to help us out. Let me program your mind for a second. Certainly those of your kids who are listening because I know they're singing it all day Also, there's some evidence the yeah. I don't want to bring this up again and again And this will be last time I bring it up about this This is error and judgment we made by giving the USC football team karma so that could beat Notre Dame That karma continued to less than they were beating no It continued to last No They were almost at their at the point of beating Stanford and then the Karma ran out

21:46 It looks like it lasts about a week. Oh really is that it and about in about and about three hours because they were winning the game at all of A sudden to tie turned into karma disappeared, and they fumbled their way through a loss And I'm thinking well that's interesting so you if you're gonna give the camera has a short-term duration Okay, so oh a week in three hours That's good. That's good Intel John Thanks The PR initiatives today are in some cases domain names that are forwarding to noagendashow.com We have newamericanspring.com forwarding to the show Another drone domain stonesdrones.com Here's one americatheenslaved.com These aren't really all that easy To remember but it's you know, the whole idea is you have a domain name and

22:37 And when you're talking to someone, you want to remind them that like you say noagendershow.com most people forget that but if you say something like YouGotKarma.com which is now also forwarded Or here's one for you John WhorePrestitute.com at least I think that's registered because of your outbursts I say oh, I called somebody a whore. It's a whore pressure is it would stand the surprise were who are a whore Hey We have something really cool though And I want to thank our producer Alex Who went through a lot of trouble to create an no agenda Roku channel and he didn't just create because you can create a channel that

23:17 You know that you can point people to on a website and there's a code and all that but now we're actually in the In the channel store under news and special interests, and it's it's actually quite cool And the minute when I start tweeting about I think he got like 40 immediately now is up to 100 installs so it has all the back catalog all of the all of the episodes with the art and also the live stream So you can just flip on the live stream on your television with, uh...on your Roku. Which is great! I think it's beautiful and it's a free channel. So that's very cool thank you very much Alex and then I just wanted to mention yesterday sent out a bat signal to all NoAgenda sysadmins but specifically open source developers I'd like to get a Linux port

24:11 of the current system that I'm using for all of our infrastructure and i wrote a blog post about it to go to curry.com and read about that help out if you can, that'd be great! We have so many awesome people we could probably get this done in a week That would be cool Everyone else If your just sitting around pulling your PUD there's something you can do You could for instance go out and propagate our formula Our formula is this We hit people in the mouth. Order! We are all a member, say it now! Shut up, Sleep Alright so that was disappointing yeah but I have for our donation segment i got a great clip which will help remind people why they need to support our show So remind me to remind them I'll remind you? Hold on let me write it down Remind Adam Yes For something Hey um... Remind me to look into book just find that reminder

25:28 Okay, I'll try. Also you might want to take into consideration that there's new legislation that is coming down the pipeline and it's not really being widely reported on although there is some major propaganda going on to program people into thinking that a great idea to limit the internet this of course is the Protect IP Act and what was the other one? The e-screw them or something. And all these things give themselves away by the name, in other words you're not protecting anything No but the whole idea is if the government doesn't like what you're doing for instance if I sing a song and and by the way John you always wonder why on the pre stream I sing along to The Ride of the Valkyries and I sing Cinco de Mayo that is so that we can get pulled off

26:22 The internet by, you know these days if you actually sing a song and upload it to YouTube. The Valkyrie song is in public domain! You can do whatever you want with it. Probably that version of course is copyrighted. Performance copyright? Performance sure So I guess the idea is if you don't, if the government doesn't like what you do and they can say well You know hey! They're playing Valkyries Take them off. Yeah take them off these guys are annoying us But the way they'll do it is they'll control DNS They'll control routing actual routing And um... and they can force all ISPs to block you Which just yeah this is getting a little bit out of control and they have now

27:07 Oh poor Beeb. They have co-opted the Beeb to help propagate this meme but in a backwards way which is really, really disgusting Listen to these prestitutes This is on Fox and by the way there's three of the hot chicks Everyone has a view show now So they've got and then they have like two... They're called the five. Is that always the five? And they usually take one of the girls that are on The Five, rotate through a bunch of them right and they try to get Gilfoyle who's one of the rare brunettes on Fox yeah who has some of the best legs Oh man! so they put her on the end Yeah so you can see the legs facing sideways with her legs lit up they gotta special light

27:59 Beamed on those legs and then she's using flutes in one of them. Yeah, her legs are lit Her legs are lit up and that that's the show so thank you very much ladies and gentlemen We'll be back again tomorrow So you have to be very careful because the way this works is you're looking at the legs which are lit up And while you're looking at the legs, of course, you know You're thinking That's one mother I'd like to and your mind Of course is wide open and that's when the information is put it So they misused the beeb and it's very clever the way they've done this. Listen to this misuse of the beeb first, well just listen and then we can discuss. I promise teen sensation Justin Bieber lashing out at Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar he says that she should be... Now this is the woman who has introduced this legislation. ...be locked up and put away in cuffs for her bill to toughen copyright infringement laws. We know the Bieber said no such thing

28:54 Justin Bieber, great kid and everything but you know that this kid is not... he didn't say that. That's why they don't have videotape of him saying I think she should be locked up He didn't say that at all. They're misusing it We know that so listen how they misuse this So now also for i'm looking under legs like bleh Now like Bieber? It was passed the law could punish anyone who sings a popular song and then uploads it to YouTube. So we will begin with Kimberly Guilfoyle, who I understand is a big Bieber fan? Yes president of the local...

29:35 I'll be thrown in jail when i lip-sync in my room you know to Justin Bieber no but that's what so first they make it sound like as ridiculous but then he's saying this is ridiculous they're taking it too far that's what creative musicians young people starting out like Justin Bieber we're singing songs uploaded on YouTube. He was discovered by Usher wow do you know a lot about now this is really well written John really well done, so the first thing this is ridiculous this is how young people learn how you build on prior art, which of course is true. Now let's look at the label... And while you're listening to Guilfoyle by the way you always have to remember that your listening a very slick district attorney. Hot hot HOT!

30:17 Now, so you're like huh? He was able to try and get discovered that way. So he's saying it's preposterous the extent to which she is trying to toughen these laws down I think Beaver...I don't think his brain has yet formed God! Now discredit the beavers You are going to get hate mail. You're gonna get comments on Twitter for that If he had any common sense and actually looked at what this bill is It's protecting the artist It's protecting the artist if he had any sense of his brain was fully grown He would have you would know because you know, you think in this look at the legs. You're dumb so much counterfeit and And violation their property getting gypped by illegal downloads people are stealing and he's not getting paid for it If he were smart, he'd support a lot of these anti-piracy Absolutely I agree with Andrea and also I have absolutely where is Justin Bieber's mother anybody?

31:11 should be taken away in handcuffs it should be just oh my god in a span of a minute and a half we go from bad to worse. We go from you know so all of a sudden is like, you know, the of course no not of course look at the legs no you're so wrong your brain is out of control you need Ritalin boy and then her mom should be thrown into his mom's should be thrown in jail I mean wow Wow! That is a fine piece of propaganda if I ever heard it. Which, of course, is teaching the slaves... Yeah that was good. I give you points for that one. That was very good. They did great job at turning this thing just into a

31:49 propaganda piece for the big corporations, News Corp being one of them and Owens Fox that's for protecting copyright. By the way we should mention to people out there and I'm if anybody is a content creator i am one of them and our show is one of them The Fact Of The Matter is we've made the show... Whoa! Easy does it on The Fact Of The Matter You know, I caught myself on the Leo show saying it but i caught it. Yeah that's alright, I was buzzing at home. Anyway the point is... Is that we do a lot of- We create a lot of copyrighted written material But when you write working for a lot of these companies These big publishers They make you sign your copyright away Immediately This doesn't protect the artist The artists even get work 90% of the time And I'm talking about a lot of writers and most of these magazines Uh..I've never done this by the way

32:37 And they have to sign away the rights to their own material. This is one of those situations where John Fogerty had to pay royalties on his own songs due to the fact that the fantasy records had his copyright under lock and key, and this doesn't protect any art. Where's the artist being protected here? When people bring up this oh the artists are being protected I've yet to see that! You know, it's interesting in this I Want My MTV book. The one thing that was astonishing even to me is the amount of brokenness of the superstars of the day. Do you know that Duran Duran is broke?

33:18 Broke surprised me that any of these guys are both. There's only a few smart money Performers out there that have locked down their rights and managed to write well I thought but I always really thought that Duran Duran had it together You know this Simon Lebon seemed like he you know he had his yeah, like they all had it together Yeah It was like John Taylor is living in like a one-bedroom and you know Santa Monica These guys broke and they, you think they made any money for somebody? Wow. Oh yeah! All these guys... I think if these guys were sincere about all this copyright bullcrap They would pass legislation saying that an artist has to own his own copyright for the rest of his life

34:00 Make it so you can't sign off your copy. You can't give them away, you can't sell them. Right. You own them and of course I could see where well it's a restraint to trade because someone has a bunch of copyrighted material they want to sell because they don't know whether or not they're going to make money Well wait a minute! Wait a minute We let everyone do whatever they want with our stuff. Yeah, well and you can see I will say this we make one third as much money as anyone doing a similar show that uses advertising so actually the system discourages what we do. What we are discouraged from this donation model

34:36 Just by the numbers. I mean, i can assure you that we'd be making three times as much money if we had advertisers and did it did the old-fashioned thing and bored people stiff with a bunch of bogus ads right in the middle of the show Well... I would have more money It's up to the listeners to deal with this So anyway, no this was terrible. It's shameful and Fox is one of the worst networks for pulling this crap. For Guilfoyle when she was on O'Reilly once and she's sitting there, and he's asking about the... this was in the early days of the total nude body scanners. And she uh.. Oh I don't see what the problem is! I don't mind if they have pictures of me naked. Yeah me neither. That's how it works. So do i get a clip of the day for that one? If you unless you beat it yeah give you a clip for the day

35:35 So by the way, that's a violation. That's a violation in copyright too is it yeah? It's King of the Road Oh King of the road clip of the day so what oh We could be off the air any minute now it's coming because you know Justin Bieber tried to protect me But oh no the Biebs brain is broken He's an idiot And his mom's just come on say and then his mom should be in jail the baby is mom should be in jail He should be scolded. I wonder if there's some Freud banked by gill foil There's a title I wonder If uh, if there's some subliminal message to her saying his brain isn't fully grown yet Is that a metaphor for penis? Do you think this is something in there?

36:24 I wasn't thinking along those lines but i figured you would be. I don't know maybe there might be a subtlety in there all right, at some point... You know the funny thing was about Guilfoyle and her wanting to have her picture naked uh there was a large really this last week there was a great congressional hearing with Napolitano, Janet. Oh I know it was beautiful! It was beautiful yeah i saw...I'm so happy you clipped that because I wasn't a different... I was on C-Span 3 The one clip I didn't take which I will bring up and I'm really disappointed at the congressman didn't jump on this because they were going out there are really concentrating on the Fast & Furious scandal Yeah that's where I was. I got fast and furious clips

37:10 They're not really making much traction, but at least they're trying. But there was a moment where some guy came in and berated her for their racial profiling of Sikhs which are an Indian religion that wears these big turbans. The turbines yeah the turbans And the reason inside the turbine is their hair... And their weapons of mass destruction Well, the hair's never cut and it's really long. And so they have to take the turban off which is a pain in the ass and they have their hairs down there. And it smells I bet it smells. Probably could be other yeah whatever that case uh... and they said when she went into this excuse making well we had to wait we had to take the Sikhs and put them aside and then take him to special rooms and all this other stuff why didn't somebody say wait a minute you've got those great body scanners machines

38:00 They're supposed to spot fine weapons and guns and whatever because she was concerned about the turban. Why doesn't it work on a turban? I don't know. Maybe they just want to humiliate the Sikhs? Maybe the thing doesn't work at all like was brought out in one of the other congressional hearings so nobody... because everyone knows that the thing is a fraud That was Micah by the way, and there's no clippage on it but he has... It appears that he's going to get that memo The one that wasn't allowed to talk about that shows such a huge failure rate of naked body scanners And they're trying to keep that quiet because that is what you pulled out that testimony apparently he's getting that report public somehow I'll believe it when i see it but he's working on it

38:45 So which clip do you want to play of our Lucy Napolitano, the big sister of Homeland Security? Well I have a long long clip from Chavitz who is that really...I think he's very entertaining congressman but i want to save that for the end show. Oh wow! That is too long. Yeah yeah But it was very entertaining now there are a couple of new information that came out during these these hearings and let's go, let me go over one of the situations that occurred with this Texas Congressman Gohmert who is the guy who came before Congress and he was the guy if you remember some maybe a year or so ago who called it the crap in trade bill. Yeah I remember that yeah well he's a character So he came up

39:32 And started talking about the idea that there's some guy on the Homeland Security Advisory Council who is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, huge fan of the Iranians Ayatollah Khomeini. What? Yeah and then he tapped into it because everyone on this committee gets a secret clearance so he goes into this state and local intelligence community database and starts pulling shit out and bringing them to the media saying look at this Rick Perry guy Islam islamophobic and so it's oh gomers trying to get the politano to say something about it he brings this up and then they go through a bunch of testimony

40:12 somebody late in the testimony asks her about is she gonna do what Gohmert asked her to do which is get some information from him and she says I don't know, I don't remember what he said. He didn't give a crap! And so one of the guys has to turn over his questioning back to Gohmert to re-ask her and this is the...I think this will be the right clip let me see I think it's Gohmert jumps Napolitano 2 I believe let's see if that's it. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to yield to the gentleman from Texas, Mr. Gomer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That's my homeboy from Texas! Secretary, since you seemed a little fuzzy about LBRE

40:59 Let me make sure you leave here understanding. He was a featured speaker at the tribute to the great Islamic visionary Ayatollah Khomeini, December 11th of 2004. You had him on your countering violent extremism working group

41:36 you promoted him and from your own website, Secretary Napolitano swears in Homeland Security Advising Council members. You swore him in and according to your testimony here today that's where he got the security clearance He has written glowingly of Cutby on whom Osama bin Laden relied heavily for his barbarism justification he has written against the trial and conviction of the holy land foundation's funding of terrorism. He doesn't sound like a good guy, John to have on our advisory committee does he? No it doesn't seem so. Yeah...He uh has still remained in this homeland security advisory council and now um

42:27 he has accessed a week ago the state and local intelligence community database. He took documents that said for official use only, and shopped them with national media it appears not only is our security being compromised, a secure system but he's using it to help his friend politically the president I've got one question and it's not a gotcha question there is nothing confusing about it before you came in here today were you given information about alibi arey using the state and local intelligence committed uh... community database and taking information he downloaded and shopping at the media if anyone from homeland security your staff advised any one else

43:31 that you were briefed last night, they would be wrong. Is that correct? Yes. Thank you. Thank you Mr King. Okay now what he's obviously has somebody must have told him this. Oh yeah he knows, he knows. That last question and she was looking up trying parsing his questions so she could go into denial and have a reason to be in denial I think somebody obviously did brief her and then they told him because she either said, you know get out of here or whatever. This is very interesting John something is going on because Hillary Clinton Lucifer was also hijacked in a very similar manner Did you see that?

44:12 No. Can I interject your Neapolitan? Yes, go ahead. Okay so Hillary is in front of Congress for an unrelated matter then we have Congressman Mack Republican of course and he traps her in such an awesome awesome way And she had she is pissed off about it. And by the way, she's sitting there She's looking ragged. She didn't want to be there and as it's a well listen how we see starts at all He asked a really easy question. She answers with the party line and then he traps I'm gonna switch gears a little bit as well As you know, I I surprise serve as the chair of the Western Hemisphere subcommittee and

44:52 So there's a lot to talk about, but I wanted to talk a little bit about Fast and Furious. And you can see here now like what? How come nobody briefed me on this?! And specifically at what point did the State Department learn of Operation Fast and Furious Now of course she has the stock answer for this which is the same as the Attorney General Congressman, I don't know the exact time. I can tell you that based on our information from the part of the State Department that would deal with this kind of issue we have no record for any request for coordination, we have no record of any kind of notice or heads up

45:43 Heads up. It's an official term a heads-up and it's my recollection is that I learned about it from the press That's my recollect okay, just like whole I just I was reading the newspaper Yeah, I don't have any intelligence in the State Department eyes is reading the paper so this is where she slips he comes In with the setup. It's a beauty So I think then I know the answer to this question But I'll ask anyways did the State Department issue the Justice Department a license or you written waiver for? in order to allow for the transfer of thousands of weapons across the US-Mexico border. So, beautiful tactic! He gets her on the defensive like he's attacking HER... This is great by the way Ask a question which she is now she's in a mindset I'm being attacked so I have to say no I know nothing about this I don't know anything about this! Congressman you know this first time I've been asked this and I can tell you that based on

46:41 The record of any activity by the bureau that would have been responsible, we see no evidence but let me do a thorough request to make sure that what I'm telling you reflects everything we know. By the way let me remind you Hillary Rodham Lucifer Clinton is a lawyer and thats why she's speaking like this so he got her in her lawyer mode she responds like a lawyer now he does a beautiful thing throws in a little joke to put her off this guy's brilliant uh... thank you that would be greatly appreciated and i i wrote the letter to yesterday don't accept it i'm sure you got in your credit um... yeah of but i thought it was for my birthday out here will have a birthday happy birthday okay beautiful now mailer

47:26 Under under the Arms Export Control Act, uh the Justice Department was required to receive a written waiver from the State Department to account for their intent to cause arms to be exported to drug cartels in Mexico. If no such waiver was received uh... justice department officials have violated the law and you would agree with that correct i cannot offer an opinion well you know i don't know how to do it no one told me he was going to do this first time I'm being asked, I've known not ask first time of being asked she's used in this all-being theater that's why she said hey hey no one told me this question was coming if you in pre interview there was such a written report but they hadn't

48:10 asked and hadn't received by law, ah the Justice Department would be violating U.S. law? I cannot offer you any opinion on that. I don't have the information or any analysis. I can only tell you the facts as we know them in the State Department. Okay well I will submit then and say that if the law says they have to get a written ah if the ah State Department is required to give a written waiver for cause of arms to be exported to drug cartels in Mexico and if they didn't do that, and that didn't happen then they are in violation of the law. So I believe the Obama administration is under complete attack from all sides They're attacking every single bit of it and Hillary just threw the Attorney General under the bus

48:59 She said, no we know of course not. We don't have any of that and then he says well do you know that's like basically breaking the law? You can't export weapons under any circumstance. He set her up beautifully first he got to admit that she didn't know anything but if she didn't know anything then what about this needed document before they process even began before Fast & Furious was even executed from day one you'd have to have this document and if you didn't know anything obviously there was no documents so their in violation of the law is fantastic! So the tell is of course that she says, and this is the first time I'm being asked this question. That's the tell that shows you that normally all of this C-SPAN stuff is theater we know that because...you know..we enjoy watching it so its our version of entertainment that it's theater and she got nailed! So I think there are people inside the administration who are now leaking out stuff they're helping the attackers and it's over

49:54 And she just really screwed it up and this is not her and heads are rolling as we speak There's people with ball gags in their mouth being whipped You know, she's like in her leather outfit clippity-clop with her big clogs on tell me slave who did Let me play one of these Texas congressmen berating. This is a short clip of not, these guys are so irked by these people listen to the Texas Congressman berates Napolitano Based on your experience do you think 34% is a high number of foreign nationals in anybody's jail? Well I mean either you do or don't

50:34 Listen, I am listening you listen answer the question your lawyer You know to answer the question and not just ramble so that the time expires Counselor she's a lawyer too. I didn't realize Janet was a lawyer. Yeah, she was Always waiting for one of these guys because there were people are saying look look listen I thought that was great. No, you listen! This is so entertaining this is...I just love this this is so awesome Let's go back to some of these things let's go to the title three Napolitano cross-examination Oh okay see where that leads Wait a minute don't tell me but wait there's more? oh my goodness Arizona from using the same investigatory and prosecutorial tools that we use in every other district

51:25 Not that I know of. So there's no reason that this quote gun trafficking case could not have been handled like it is handled in all the other states? I'm not commenting to this one, i-i'm not second guessing uh Fast and Furious that's under investigation now. Everyone else has second guessed it! The Attorney General has said there were problems, the President has said they were problems so I'm not asking you to say anything they haven't already said do you agree there were problems with Fast and Furious I thought you were asking a much more specific question. But what i would say is obviously there were problems with Fast and Furious What were those problems? Well, obviously you don't want to let guns with the kind of firepower that we now know are involved get out of your control Is fire power the only reason you don't allow guns at all? There's a number of them but

52:13 But if you want to cross-examine me about it... I'm not cross examining you, Madam Secretary. I am asking you about Fast and Furious. Well what i'm explaining to you is that the case itself and the matter in which was handled is under jurisdiction of the Inspector General but obviously from a what we know perspective yeah there were problems absolutely When you were United States Attorney in Arizona did you ever have Title III cases? T3's? Yes. And those applications were approved by whom? What's a t-three? It has, I have to look it up again he explained it Terminator 3? But i thought it was interesting that he said title three and she then used the jargon T3 yeah which was to make it you know trivialize it even look at Title Three

53:00 It has something to do with movement across the border. I was concerned that she kept using the word obviously, she used it three times in that little just a very short period of time meaning which is throwing back at the questioner well obviously you're an idiot for asking because it's obvious. Right, and so she liked to pull that off but the mistake she made was she said well with guns with this kind of firepower we should let go across oh but the other kinds you can't. Oh yeah what is okay? You know is like 22 okay? Is that better? Wait a minute USA Patriot Act Title III is this part of the Patriot Act? Could be International Money Laundering Abatement and Financial Anti-terrorism Act

53:41 containing the title yes it's just so it's just is that like a secret word for Patriot Act? Yes, Title III. Part of the Patriot Act doesn't allow this kind of activity right essentially by citizens apparently the government does it but that goes on and on to a long Title III thing which I thought was just a little too much to leave in there. I like it though if you want to cross-examine me then get my vote! She's very glib she's not as bad as Jackson Basically it's nothing but disdain. You'll have to ball gag me, bitch if you want to cross-examine me! But there are a couple other things that came out in her testimony besides the Fast and Furious stuff

54:22 there was this the guy in the border jails if you want to play that this is kind of interesting that the Texas border jail apparently so many foreign nationals in our jails it's costing us a fortune but they're Iranians are going I didn't know anything about this. You know, the Iranians are bringing in explosives? Nobody said that they weren't. Into the jail? yet takes a board jails and iranians down at the border it's a very different for that it was even three or four years ago agrees worse uh... the iranians apparently think our borders less secure than we do otherwise they would have gone to mexico work with proposed supposedly does a distant smuggling explosives into the united states are on the iranians know about the cross-border traffic of those ladies are other drug cartels

55:14 that we're missing. In my opinion, the Zetas and other drug cartels have access to the United States they have access back to Mexico so it seems like the Iranians obviously know something about the lax border than we do The Bureau of Prisons says that 27% percent of people in federal penitentiary are foreign criminal aliens That means they are illegally in the United States when they commit a felony all of those 27%, a fourth of the population in the federal penitentiaries, got here some way.

55:50 and they got here illegally according to the statistics of the Bureau of Prisons. And if the border is so secure, let me give you some insight as to the Texas border where I have been numerous times in areas that aren't exactly as safe as you claim. The sheriffs on any given day we will call the sheriff's in the border jails and say how many people are in your jail that are foreign nationals not criminal aliens for nationals? The most recent one is, uh... have the border counties and the average is about 34.5% of the people in Texas border jails are from foreign countries This just gets crazier It gets crazier and crazier None of this stuff is covered by mainstream media it's very interesting I only have one more clip that I think is important which was another item I've never heard of Which is the

56:47 There's also a funny clip about insinuation where she's just giving some guy crap, it's too long to play. But here's the one let's see replay this one this is all news to me apparently China in particular and there's other countries we arrest some guy for doing something terrible on this. One story that's told here by this Congresswoman They do some heinous crime and then we try to deport them and the Chinese say screw you We don't want that idiot, and they just let him go

57:23 back into the community play this back to the community clip will not accept them that you release them back into the communities well there is on ruling yeah there's a supreme court case called zombie dos which is a due process case which if if their home country cannot accept or will not accept uh... gives us a about a six-month detention period And in fact, some of these people have come back into the communities and committed heinous crimes. Truly heinous. Like Huang Qin who killed a young woman I believe after China had refused to

58:01 repatriatize him, is that true? And if I remember reading this correctly they still have not located her heart and lungs. Oh God! So another one who killed a police officer... This is better than the Special Victims Unit Her heart and lungs of the zombies ate them don't you realize? ...officer in Fort Myers after being released back into the community because their home country would not take them. You know, section 243D of Immigration Nationality Act requires a government to sanction countries that refuse to repatriate by suspending issuance of immigrant or non-immigrant visas or both to nationals of the country until it takes aliens back." I love this!

58:39 But although I'm more interested in where her heart and lungs are. Yeah, well, sold the heart to someone and the lungs I guess but the idea was she goes on about how there's a it's a specific law that if they won't take them back they're supposed to we have to take action then in this case against the Chinese and revoke everybody's visa Well from China. And Napolitano is going, well I'm not absolutely sure the way we see it and she just won't say anything it's just amazing so but advantage is being taken of this situation coincidentally which of course doesn't exist with the Department of Homeland Security that would be Janet Napolitano department handing out $300,000 grants to places such as Houston Texas

59:33 to create drones flying around in the air. And I'm sure you received a link or two about this, but now that I've become a Texan... ...I have the local news report which is always better than anything else you can imagine! Normally only play the video tape portion of the report In this case I actually have some of the banter from the newscasters because they are quite funny From a laptop computer, deputies can fly this 50-pound Shadowhawk unmanned helicopter. A powerful camera on the front is controlled with this game like console and the manufacturer says this one's even designed to carry weapons. It has a stun baton where you can actually engage somebody at altitude with the aircraft

1:00:17 A stun baton would essentially disable a suspect. Montgomery County Sheriff Tommy Gage says he has no plans for weapons just yet, but he does have FAA approval to fly for SWAT team standoffs and searching for criminals on the run To be in on the ground floor with this is pretty exciting for us here in Montgomery County Yeah it's pretty exciting right here Oh boys, we're gonna go zap you from the air! In 2007 Local 2 investigates uncovered a secret Houston police test of a different type of drone. But so many people complained of police spying on them after our story went worldwide Mayor Parker scrapped the idea when she took office but Montgomery County is ready to go Big brother watching

1:00:57 situation, certainly it's not going to be used for that. It is going to be used if somebody is a criminal and all we're looking for him that what were gonna use the vehicle I love how the old guy catches himself saying there like a big brother situation It's so simple in its design and the objectives of it. You just wonder why anyone would choose not to have it? Yeah, why don't we have them everywhere! It's fantastic! It's beautiful Flights here at the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office could begin within a month according to the sheriff. Now this drone that arrived here today could be outfitted with a taser to actually zap a suspect from above or fire off those... What? Yeah, wait! A taser to zap a suspect from above?! Wait there is more! How does that work!? A stun gun... Bean bags! Throwing bean bags out of these things! Hey hey have a bean bag!

1:01:55 Zap a suspect from the air. What is this? This is not just I mean you have to have contacts or either they've got like some high-tech weaponry with a laser to zap you. Sheriff says it's all about keeping his officers safe in very volatile situations he says we will keep privacy concerns in mind, he says it will be done right And here comes the kicker. Check it out, let's get to the payment part. So the important things of this meme fest are that the FAA has given them permission to fly

1:02:38 Now, I'm going to presume they have to be below 500 feet with this thing just for general aviation practices which typically will not allow you to fly under five hundred feet above... Five hundred? Five hundred feet above ground level. That's that's the kind of low For general aviation, in some places over cities it differs but in general 500 feet sometimes a thousand that's the lowest altitude. So these things are going to have to be below it otherwise you know is crazy and you can't have people tooling around on their Cessna all of sudden this... These aren't the same as they're using an Afghanistan there at 20,000 feet No no this like a remote control. This is little pieces of crap Right

1:03:19 I'm telling you these things are gonna be brought down. Oh, I am shooting this thing if I see one of these things flying over my house in Austin I am blowing it out of the sky in fact I think it's a game You don't even have to say pull you just hear this thing flying by like it's gonna Be fun now The other part is zapping people from the sky really and throwing beanbags a Beanbag drone Are you freaking kidding me? Now this is nuts, but it is based upon a $300,000 grant. Yeah this is a bribe! Totally Here's a bunch of money for you guys and chain a couple guys keep an extra couple officers on the payroll and buy one of these pieces of crap

1:04:06 whatever it is, I mean there's probably a brand involved with some little one of these mini drones the kind that can fly up to your window and peer in. Yeah. And uh yeah this is disgusting The video you can see in the show notes... Anybody in Texas, you know of an independent minded group of people say yeah That's a great idea. Let's let the federal government run our lives Well first of all we don't all talk like that in Texas But since you're doing it I will blow that some bitch out of sky boy You know, I will Of course not from Alabama. So anyway, whatever the good old boys are teeth like this The good old boys had none of that We're not gonna have any of that can may I please give you some props for a moment here?

1:04:50 Oh, thank you. You were so spot on about Anwar al-Awlaki about that being an extraction? Remember that was your... Why he show up in LA? Yeah he was at the premiere of uh no um but there's a little twist to it what happened here this is a fight between the FBI and CIA And as demonstrated in this clip, now here- This is the douchebag who's uh... Who used to be uh what was his name? He used to be the head of the Bin Laden unit. The guy who you know Oh that guy! That idiot whose always on Fox Yeah he's always on the air and hes just a blo-

1:05:30 phony blowhard and I think he's disinformation specialist is only reason he's on anything. Well the thing i like about what he's about to say here, is he essentially asserts that the droning of Anwar al-Awlaki and of course this leads right into his son who was as you correctly pointed out was a loose end... Was actually because the FBI was looking bad because this guy worked for the FBI and they had to get rid of him. Well, listen we've heard for years that there was a link...a direct link that Al-Aqi had contact with some of the 9 11 hijackers why now after he's been killed is this becoming an issue?

1:06:07 Well, I think several reasons. They're very concerned about the growth of domestic militancy in the United States. Clearly Al-Walki is just one of a number of people who are here trying to incite young Muslim males to attack their country. Second, I think you have to put some responsibility onto your own Catherine Herridge's very good book on the FBI's mishandling of al-Walki. They apparently were running him as an agent at least they thought and they facilitated his removal from the country before anybody could talk to them. So I think there's a lot of stuff going on here that really wasn't covered by the 9-11 Commission, sir. So if in fact there is this link and we prove it and this investigation turns up all the evidence what does it change?

1:06:51 Well, it changes how we think about domestic security. You know the FBI and other departments of justice have always argued that there are no sleeper cells or terrorist cells in the United States because we haven't found them. Well there's a lot of times in life you look for something but don't find it but its out there somewhere For example, Osama Bin Laden and his mentor if you will a Palestinian sheikh named Abdullah Azam had more than 50 offices and representatives in the United States during the Afghan war against the Soviets in the 1980s. They had already established infrastructure

1:07:29 But the desire of the 9-11 Commission, it seemed to me and I'm very biased on this was to blame the CIA for the failure and drop it at that. And now we're finding out that other people had opportunities other people knew about activities that were going on in our country and the 9-11 commission ignored them. So might this either strengthen the case for a Alawaki's assassination or might it strengthen the calls for those who said, hey it might have been better had we detained this guy questioned him and found out that things that he was involved in? I think it was better to kill him sir. I think dead Alawaki is better than an Awlaki to talk too. A dead Alawaki is better than an Alawaki to talk too

1:08:12 How does that work? So he used the meme blame the CIA, so he's obviously still has some connection because of CIA. Of course! He is a shill obviously and he wants to throw some blame on the FBI and maybe actually announcing We've got a lock-in out, you guys better shut up about a couple of things. Exactly! So this is the ongoing war inside our own country and then the end of it is that some poor kid gets droned because he's a loose end because he can say yeah my dad was FBI? Right something like that or although I still think they extracted him too Although if you believe what's the guy's name Dickie of Newsweek

1:09:02 Douchebag Dickie is what I'll call him. Who's Douchebag Dicky? He works for like in Newsweek, I forget his first name and when you hear him this short clip yeah drones are okay killing people is not a problem. The thing that eroded our moral status in the world was invading Iraq and occupying the country's occupying Iraq Afghanistan for the last 10 years I mean that is what erodes moral authority frankly I don't think the Americans and most of the rest of the world care about drone attacks here, there and everywhere if you're attacking a handful of bad guys. I don't care! Here, there everywhere... There's always these bad guys that don't care about drone attacks. No John, your American people do you care?

1:09:41 Yeah, I don't care. It's awesome. There is one over the house now! Here there are drones here and everywhere who cares no one gives a crap No one cares about drones it's okay good for bad guys beanbagged to bad guys You know what people? I hope you're the first to get beanbagge by drone So, we're on that topic. There was a thing on Book TV over the weekend that I thought was kind of interesting it was a discussion of various nonfiction and fiction books by lawyers about lawyers and they ended questioning... And this is entertaining to you?

1:10:21 Yeah, it was actually. And what it relates exactly to what you were just talking about let's play the clip which is guy asks a question that's called and the clip is a little long called The End of Due Process And I was just wondering, you know, I was thinking they got some process and not process. But in our larger legal issues it seems like due process is being taken away from us when you say arbitration but the due process for instance the drones killing people overseas of American citizens without due process. I just wonder if we could talk a little bit about that? Wow!

1:11:00 That is a fundamental issue to the integrity, I think of our justice system as due process. We are in a very complex fight for civil society in this world. I don't know that you can make it all whittled down to due process so i don't want to try to do that with the drones and the like but let me take your point and expand on it just this much I think you hit a nerve when you say we may be putting due process in jeopardy because if you don't have that then all of the other pillars in the structure of the justice system fall wow

1:12:03 Yeah, they go on and they bring up a bunch of these points. It was very interesting on kind of high level that these lawyers... And another one that was there at this confab was this guy Dease who's the Southern Poverty Law Center guy who is very famous lawyer who also discusses something he believes in the entire court system is done for because everything now is based on contracts and arbitration. And drones, just drones! The drones will be just part of this whole system and he mentions in particular you can play this clip it's Dease in the end of courts but he mentions this interesting thing says you know the movie Philadelphia where Tom Hanks won the Academy Award? Where the AIDS guy sues his own law firm cuz they got rid of him right

1:12:54 He says, today this wouldn't happen in a million years. He says when you sign up with any law firm in anyway shape or form... Oh he's signing away your right to sue them? Yeah! You signed an arbitration clause immediately. This whole movie is bogus. First of all there was a move to close the courthouse door And when I go to speak to the law students at Alabama, Ken locks them all in. They can't get out during freshman orientation so I get indoctrinate them a little bit. I've done this for many many years and always tell them now y'all walk down the hall to the moot courtroom because that's probably going be one of only courtrooms you're gonna get to see and when you get out of law school you're gonna put on your best preparation You gonna get everything ready and you're gonna stand in front of the...and you're gonna make your opening statement

1:13:42 And may it please the arbitrator. And unfortunately that's the case, that's really the case but I do think we've got to really fight to keep the courtroom door open and there is a conspiracy on this country especially in civil courts to shut the courtroom door because corporate America does not trust the jury And, you know and I gave a talk once. You don't need to go to law school to learn the practice of law just watch the movies! So I did that one year then and said let's take... What are your favorite movies? The Office of Killing Markham. But when we get to Philadelphia story. He said how do you like that first off how many came out of law school to learn to go in court room and represent people rights all hands go up. I say what do think about Philadelphia story he says well it is great story

1:14:27 that'd be no trial on that today. Everybody's, you know why? Nobody knows why I said because when that lawyer signed up for that law firm he would have signed a binding arbitration agreement and we've never had a trial so it gets important that these law books emphasize that theme in keep the idea that they we need to have a jury system as law students all of time do you know what the sixth amendment is well everybody knows then its right to jury trial and I said what about the seventh amendment? Most of you, some of you may know what it means. I'm sure you know what it means but its the right to a jury trial in a civil case for any amount of twenty five dollars or more that's just lost on those people up here in Washington DC Small claims Thank You! You Know... Here..I am going to predict the future John And you and I will be apart if we can stay alive and on air We will have A segment on this show

1:15:22 And it will go something like this. Win, lose or drone! That's right Gina and John even married for five years and now they want to split up but they're not gonna go to court there is no divorce oh no let see who is going to play and win Lose Or Drone! That's right let see who can escape the drone They don't need to go to court just drone the bitch So you just love that clip Because I can see it happening. You're going to get tired of it. Well soon, but I can see it happening! Like you know you don't go to court to get a divorce... you just a droner

1:16:01 Sorry, the prenup thing you know could be just a simple drone. You don't have to you know pre-nup doesn't have to be grown up Yeah, it gets people about prenups. You know they're super rich They are used to but the normal people out there They would never sign one because it's like oh you love me if you loved me you wouldn't let me sign this yeah But if the prenups devolve into really not pre-neps at all. You have to rename them to something else, a marriage agreement...marriage arbitration agreement would be a good name and essentially before you get married the two of you say just in case if anything happens we go to an arbitrator, we don't start suing each other with this expensive process where lawyers make all the money and that's that! And you both sign off on the marriage arbitration agreement and you get married

1:16:45 That's something like that will definitely be in the cards for everybody and no one will be moaning about it. We keep it as till death do us part, til death by drone! It's gonna be real easy. Yeah well this is a problem yeah it's like a real problem uh everyone's a lawyer The thing about the 7th amendment you know that small claims court anything over 25 bucks You can do a lot with your phone company, you can be suing them. There's a lot of... and all you have to is file and they never show up and they always have a judgment against them And then you get mechanics lean in shut the business down if you... My entire point about this win-lose or drone game show it's not far fetched because we have Judge Judy and Judge Gingo

1:17:37 judge jabroni all these reality shows based upon the twenty five dollar small claims court uh... rule that's why they'll be steve crazy show up in court in the so-called television court so you know this a logical outcome how many gotta get on this and by the way of the way the donations are going we might have to speaking of which um... now actually yeah but i do want to speak about donation then if the presidential kind One of the guilty pleasures I have is watching that a-hole spokes hole Carney The guy with the Napoleon complex who speaks on behalf with the president in the White House And he's got his own little show. He loves this little show listen to how this dick starts his show on Friday Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to your daily briefing in the West Wing of the White House, The People's House

1:18:31 Good Friday. The People's House, to you? Good Friday to everybody! Welcome to the White House, the People's House, The West Wing This is my show I'm Joe Cardi That dick! Ugh! The people... Is he talking to the same reporters every day? Welcome to the People's House So this is the fantastically transparent-this is just a great lovable clip about how the Obama administration, the most transparent administration in history It's a fact! It's a fact You know that don't you John? It's a fact. A fact! It's a bogus fact. It's a FACT! The most transparent in history are so proud that they are not taking money from lobbyists, no money from lobbyists ever, no money from lobbyists unless...unless

1:19:17 There's a way around it. This is very, very funny clip and I'm not sure who the journalist is but he deserves a deducing. One of the things the Occupy Wall Street people are upset about is special interests having a lot influence here in Washington and having their voices heard and not individuals being heard And The New York Times has started today about this campaign pledge that President made About lobbyists not being allowed to give money to his campaign The story lays out in great detail, however. There are a lot of people not just giving but raising half a million dollars each. A lot of money. for the president's campaign and they just don't register as lobbyists but their livelihood is lobbying. So let me just explain what's going on here so there are registered lobbyists on behalf of companies, but instead of saying hey I'm a lobbyist here is money to lobby and take our money which the President has said he would never take that they are bundlers! And they're taking donations from people who might happen to work at some firms that have an interest

1:20:13 and then they under personal tighter title are giving you know half a million dollars the campaign was the obama administration is happily accepting ten i guess in your time to an article about this so it shows that you know there's all arrows are are aimed at this president admit but the way carney addresses it and answer that is just hilarious how do you square off i mean first of all they don't need me make it sound like they don't register as lobbyists in their somehow violating the wrong law This president's record is unprecedented in terms of precedent Rejection of money from PACs and lobbyists. I mean, I think what's interesting it's unprecedented It's a fact be quiet that you're citing that story and not the president can meet go either way You know, yeah, that's true as good boy be like he's got more than anybody buddy. Is it?

1:20:59 the republican guy that journalists is good at demonstrated that lobbyists are lining up to in record numbers to contribute to republican campaigns campaigns that openly and willingly accept money from a lot of this is not the president of those made me a pledge what he would i said you can go all the other candidates and he has had that ledge uh... and and has been more transparent and and and held himself his administration higher standards than any administration in history history in history history so i think we're very proud of it so how did the story that will a woman who runs fizers lobbying shop when you ask for they don't lobby uh... she was little fires is lobbying shop drug company billions of dollars in interest around the world to lobby the white house and lobby congress she's runs her loving shopping issues raised five hundred thousand dollars for the president's campaign but isn't that why i was afraid he is that's not the point shut up the point is this

1:21:54 has been the most transparent in terms of disclosure, the most ethical in terms of the money that he will accept and the money that won't accept. There is no one who compares. Oh nothing compares! Thus far. We hope there will be and certainly none of the Republican candidates are even... I mean they don't even make an effort right? And the fact this president's record is unparalleled in this regard But he's also the president right now. They're candidates, we don't know who is going to get the nomination. They should be held to a high standard as well. He had his standoff prior when he ran for office not just when he took office. So the head of Comcast lobbying David Cohn

1:22:34 runs who I know by the way David Cohn. Comcast lobbying raised a half-a-million dollars, I understand you keep saying disclosure and everything else but how do you have somebody who's running a lobbying shop and they're raising a half a million dollars? How does that square with a ban? Again again what should we how should i answer let me just say were unquestionably unparalleled the most transparent. The president standards are unequaled in this regard. The practice has been unprecedented in this regard, the transparency, the disclosure unequaled again by any other candidate we're very confident that his record on this is exemplary.

1:23:22 He will be on the wrong side of history, to use the elite's own words. One day he will be on the wrong side of history and he will be embarrassed and his children will be embarrassed about having a father that stood there and lied in the people's house Hey John, we should go to DC and say hey is a spokeshole Carney here? We want to have lunch in the people's house. You want to have a picnic yeah in the people's house. People's house. We want to have a little people's house So, you don't have to remind me because I reminded myself. Clay Shirky do you know who this gentleman is? Clay Shirky? Yeah. Who is Clay Shirky? He's one of the kind of blogger turned professor writes a lot of books on the internet and how it's important to society and all those kinds of things and he's kind of probably...of all

1:24:18 guys who do that sort of work, if you see him on C-Span he's probably the most full of himself out all. So he is also a consultant to the Ministry of Truth in The New York Times Is that your recollection? I don't know but it is possible Yes It wouldn't surprise me He was speaking at Columbia School of Journalism which is where they train new slaves for the ministry of truth and of course these are all elitist A-holes And you know the guy James O'Keefe who goes undercover and does like the acorn stuff? Oh right, that guy. So he has a website called Project Veritas which is kind of funny by itself and he went undercover

1:25:04 And his whole mission was kind of to expose that they're elitist and you know, they're talking about how they support Obama. And I don't give a crap about any of that but there are two little clips that I pulled from this undercover footage the first one actually shows how...I believe you and i were duped about this Occupy Wall Street because of course now we see that as you play at the start of the show, The president is now using a 1% meme so it's not just the President. It's where were we duped? Well listen yeah We were duped in the coverage by the mainstream media he explains exactly

1:25:41 How, why the mainstream media like the New York Times didn't cover Occupy Wall Street in the beginning because they actually wanted to give it full-blown coverage and really make it very successful for the president and the unions. So the problem is if you want Occupy Wall Street to succeed You want them not get press coverage So in a way, although Occupy Wall Street loves to talk about the lack of press attention. The period between when they started going and when the press caught on? Less than 10 days And that was actually probably good for them It mattered so much to Occupy Wall Street that no newspaper sent them any traffic in the beginning So by the time the media stuff appeared They had a cultural core solid enough to absorb that traffic and if The Times

1:26:31 If the times had thought they were doing them a favor by saying, oh you know 20 kids slept overnight in the park and this is going to shake the world. It would have shaken the world less than it has now so even if the times were being completely tactically liberal they still wouldn't want to rush in and front run that story So uh this by the way is classic Shirky bullshit but go on. So what are you saying? I'd say it's bullshit. That the Times wasn't in on it? They're sitting around in a meeting, well here's what we got to do boys we gotta keep this thing undercover for awhile and then were gonna blow out that way can be a big deal they don't do that in these meetings they basically have a meeting there not that dishonest their not a bunch of criminals like he is making them out to be this just one of these reverse thought things where you come up with some

1:27:23 some very creative explanation that sells more books. That's what he does, that is what his job is. Well he's helping us by exposing the business model of our national treasure NPR. The other thing about NPR Scott is that the whole idea sponsorship has been made ridiculous and NPR runs advertising but because the way tax code written they don't have to call it advertising but a radio ad plus URL is direct marketing So the invention of the web has created an enormous wind in NPR sales for raising money through a, an advertising model but they don't pay taxes to Snapdragon. Were that loophole to be closed NPR wouldn't put the incident on. Hey do you pay taxes John? You know this we paid nothing but taxes This I'm not-I'm gonna look into this because i don't think thats true

1:28:10 As far as I know, the only reason you use the underwriting model is to dupe people into thinking that there is no advertising or no corporate influence. And so the public broadcasters just used a word underwriting and it's casually used just as we have from that old clip where she says underwriting whatever you want to call it advertising right? Right. And I don't know that the tax code Has anything to do with it. I'm gonna, I mean i can look into this but it sounds again like Shirky kind of like dreaming up something that makes it sound you know because his stuff is compelling if its one of these philosophers with crazy ideas and sounds kinda interesting until you realize that you've been suckered into false thinking. I mean he's basically a Chomsky of this sort of observation

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1:40:46 Yeah, this coming Sunday. I'm gonna have to do the show from San Francisco It's the annual Research Awards that Mickey and I try and steal money from Medical venture capitalists to help messed up kids we do that once a year San Francisco yeah Huh? Yeah it's you know We'd try to do one or two things for for sure we tried to do our bit And every year, you know we host this... It's good. They raised like $700,000 or something from these douchebag venture capitalist guys and that helps kids who are messed up and they're a good organization because they basically had no money they put it all into sending out medical teams and stuff but every year it's like oh crap! We gotta do that again? So are you gonna come by the office? No. Hell no I'm crazy. I don't wanna do anything of the sort

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1:42:38 Two weeks, the show goes under? Nope. Europe goes under! Oh yeah... The Euroquake is coming So we can pool Yeah we can pool this for sure Well I'll tell you what this is based on and it's important to discuss because it will affect us here in the United States of Gitmo Nation And a request from people who send some Euros and now we got Australians coming in Although the Australian dollar strong too but its not going to collapse like the Euro So, on the last show we of course were celebrating the fact that Europe had been saved. No sooner had the document come out and then we read it which basically said well you know

1:43:19 the 50% debt forgiveness is voluntary and all this stuff. The thing is bogus! It did nothing. And then the German Bundestag, the parliament essentially said well you know yeah this is all good Herr Merkel but we're gonna have to vote every single time with a full parliament for money to go out to save the frogs and pasta guys And Italy, which we thought it was going to be Spain or Portugal but it looks like Italy is the one that's gonna fall into the abyss. In one day the cost of them borrowing money which is what this bond selling is all about and I think it's important for us to talk to our producers about this so you know because God forbid anyone explain it on in the American news media what's actually happening is the cost of their borrowing went up I don't like a full point

1:44:14 Showing that the markets the financial market's like no we don't buy this So I think it's a I think it's two weeks. I think what are we today? That's why so let's say November 15 1111 11, let's just call it 1111 11 so be Friday The eleventh of November is when Europe will crash you wanna You want to weigh in do you think it's gonna take longer January. Oh really, you think January? I think they're gonna try to do everything they can to bullshit their way through the Christmas season Try to get a little action going there, little last-ditch profits and then it'll collapse in January Nigel Farage was on with with The Judge Napolitano if you want to hear that free It's not like one of the Farage rants in Parliament but it's kind of... Nah screw it! Yeah I'm always gaming, I like that guy You wanna listen to a little bit of him okay

1:45:06 Well I'm pleased we're having this debate because i've been amazed over the last few weeks. There's been a wall of silence from America, no one has been saying anything and with respect um...I would say that your president is handling your own public finances pretty badly how on earth can you want to get involved with tens and tens and tens of billions of dollars more helping not to bail out Greece and Portugal and Ireland but to keep them imprisoned inside a currency that they should never have joined in the first place. All you guys are doing and all we guys are doing is we're pouring good money after bad, it's going bust of that there is no doubt at all." I wish you could make that statement to the Congress of the United States

1:45:49 to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and to the President himself. Nigel, what will happen if some miracle occurs and the U.S says no? And Angela Merkel says no? And David Cameron says no? And Nicolas Sarkozy says no? And these countries are permitted to collapse?" Well I can't see the IMF saying no because whilst it's based in Washington you guys have turned a blind eye to the fact that the last guy Dominic Strauss-Kahn was a French bureaucrat who supported the euro. We've now got Christine Lagarde in charge, another French bureaucrat who supports the euro so the IMF in Washington has been hijacked Angela Merkel is in a difficult position her own electorate increasingly are saying look we spent 20 years paying for Eastern Germany

1:46:35 to be reincorporated into the West after the Berlin Wall came down, but we're not signing a blank cheque for Greece. And Cameron? Well frankly he's got no backbone or frankly no spine at all so we're inching towards the next bailout but there is a danger that some point in time the markets will just overwhelm this thing and it won't matter whether the bail out fund is one trillion or two trillion or three trillion events will just become too big for it What will happen in your view if there is no bailout and if contract law, the law of supply and demand, and the free market runs its natural course? I mean aren't we destined for failure of these socialist entities anyway. Wouldn't it be better to get over with now!

1:47:23 Well, I couldn't agree more. Let's take the pain! Look back in 2008 when these big banking crises hit and much of it because of the stupidity of what American and European politicians did with the banks but think about Iceland Iceland just simply could not muster the reserves or the political will to bail out the banks. They let the banks go bankrupt, the Icelandic currency fell by 80%, interest rates went up 20%. It wasn't just a volcanic ash that year that made things look grim in Iceland but where's Iceland today? Well, Iceland today is getting back to growth she has taken the hit she has taken the bad news and she is recovering

1:48:03 Take Greece. We're keeping Greece trapped inside a currency, her currency probably should be 65 to 70 percent lower than it is Wow You know most of her banks need...need to go bust and the risk is this that we can talk about economics until the cows come home but the reality is if you strip a country at its democracy If you take away from it the ability have your own elected government do things be they good or bad things and you turn it over to three foreign bureaucrats one from the IMF, one from the European Commission one from the European Central Bank. Once a fortnight they land at Athens Airport and tell the Prime Minister what he can and can't do I put it to you that if you rob people of their ability determine their own futures they will turn to violence and i believe that what will happen in Greece before too long is there will be a revolution That's just how serious and how stupid this whole thing is. Yeah, I'm buying that

1:48:59 I think that was a very eloquent explanation of the whole issue. Yeah, now I'm in total agreement too but the problem is is that these guys have been good at stalling it the optimists on Wall Street have been buying into everything they say and so they keep everything pumped up That's why I think this can go past Christmas and then it could go even further than that but its definitely gonna... They're not going to let economies collapse before Christmas You know? They'll lie! That would be horrible Well, but they're already shooting their wad because I loved how Germany all of a sudden hey Oh we were looking under the couch and we found 55 billion euros. How coincidental is that? Did you see this yeah? It's like

1:49:43 We just found 55 billion and do a rounding error, a little accounting error. It's so fake all this is so fake and meanwhile you're not seeing Greece on television You can see a little bit of it on your own news in a minute 30 clip of...it might as well be Occupy Wall Street Denver or Oakland This is all the part of the same thing but yeah I mean those people that's like pandemonium It's really, you should go to Greece. People if you have a chance go to Greece and stand out there by the way bring a helmet it is bad news there this is really bad so I'm saying two weeks your saying through Christmas I don't know they can handle it. They are pretty good at doing that. The market moving really fast man alright I could be wrong but 11-11-11 is the perfect date

1:50:34 for it all to come tumbling down. I think it's bold of you to uh... Bold? To think things are going to happen faster than they actually happened but we'll see so I have an ask Adam oh hold on a second do we have, you know, if haven't done this in such a long time let me see if we can find a All right, ask Adam everybody's in response to the you know you always had out of the blue you have some crazy thing I can't answer so i'm gonna this is just a guess who this is clip and You have to tell me who this isn't see if you're gonna identify this person. Oh Guess who? This is clip okay all right here we go don't want every story I Know I already know

1:51:24 And it's going to be on television tomorrow night. I already have the DVR set this is the the Hummer from The New York Times 1800 There is a certain lack of discipline sometimes a point is repeated Too many times in a story are there three quotes making the same point where one would do and I'd like to see a variety of storylines. I saw this was, this is the promo right for the uh... Jill Abramson yeah i saw the promo she's gonna be on C-SPAN! I'm telling you I was sitting at my computer and I have c span on all of us in like whoa I'm like getting the remote and like I gotta record it's the Hummer it's the hummer and there's always a promo but its on Monday night on C-SPAN oh yeah can't wait because he's in major hummage mode

1:52:15 She's doing a Gregorian chant So an interesting piece of news cropped up over the last few days Oh Google oh Released its transparency report. Yeah Telling everybody all the data requests have you seen this yes, I have um Oh nuts, because I was going to ask you a question like for example these are all the people that have governments that have requested data from Google who now says well you know we just have to give it to them and so the question is how many requests just out of the blue would people think China for example asked Google for? Three. And how many did the United States asked Google for when i looked at the chart it said none

1:53:09 No, 5950. I know but Brazil was second i think wasn't brazil number two on that chart? India! India is second at 1739 not even close to the United States we kick ass yeah we are rocking we're number one and Google has complied with 93% of them, user specified accounts 11,057 accounts are specifically targeted by the government to be looked at. If you compare that to let's say France, 1300 requests 1600 user accounts. So you know a factor of by a factor of five Netherlands 64 Russia 42 Switzerland 36 they don't care we have 5950 requests and that's just what they're telling us

1:54:00 Right. I mean, it could be a lie. It could be low. Yeah, it could be... Whatever the case is this is their uh This is Google so when you go to Google your uh your and it just means that can you go To the Gmail that your Gmail account The government says hey I want to know about this guy here He's been given to the no agenda show well Let's look at his gmail account And then oh and here's his password for PayPal and here's his password for Facebook and here's all this stuff Oh yeah, yeah, they get all that So you use scroogle SC, I don't use any of that. I have my own email server in-house. No talk about Scroogle for your searches. Oh! Because Scrooge goes and runs it through a bunch of hoops and then you get the same Google results and there you know may or may not be safe but it's at least you think they'd probably safer whatever the case is Google is turning over everything they every time its asked they give

1:54:57 There was a survey which CNN didn't have, I saw it on the... by the way in Austin place. I've ordered DVRs for all of the televisions because you know i had this one TV and two TVs. Oh right! This was a big bugaboo with you? Yeah, screw that up. Oh no! I'm on the wrong set! I'm on the wrong box so I wasn't able to record. CNN and basically all the newspapers everybody ran with this survey And I don't know if you saw this survey. Survey, USA Today survey! And it was about... and here's how it went Do you know where you pick up the most germs? We'll have the answer right after this commercial! And your options were gas pump handle ATMs The button that doesn't change the light when you want to cross it Interesting they didn't have your keyboard but the crosswalk buttons

1:55:56 all of this other stuff. Did you see this pop up anywhere? Did you see this yeah alright so and on CNN I'm looking at it and right underneath me also number one place the dirtiest place is 71% of gas pump handles 68 percent of corner mailbox handles or highly contaminated with germs most associated with a high risk of illness And right below it, and this is what killed me. I saw who did the survey. Do you know who did the survey? I'm guessing some company that sells a desanitizing powder or something. Kimberly Clark! Yeah there you go. They are Kimberly Clark makers of

1:56:44 all things wipes. Wipes, Kleenex, Kotex... A wipes company that determines there's all kinds of germs out there to kill ya! I mean this was a huge commercial And I'm thinking, here USA Today even said the survey from Kimberly Clark Professional a subsidiary of the tissue maker that focuses on workplace wellness was designed with help from environmental microbiologist Charles Gerba. A professor at the University of Arizona this shows you how commercial everything really is

1:57:22 And it was just a commercial. I was blown away! Yeah, well we've talked about this before... We should be doing this more often. We haven't done it at all But we should do this, you know. We can get some professors and some other people to kind of put their names on these things and we can do surveys. And there's a lot of survey software out there and there are survey companies that would volunteer for us I'm sure... No please! No one is going to volunteer for us? Are you kidding me?! No, I think we could get that in exchange for some promotion. Well okay how about this? We know we have a lot of educators out there maybe one of the educators who has a professor title will step up

1:57:59 and say yes I will underwrite a study that is entirely designed to prove that people who listen to the no agenda podcast have better sex. Don't you think? We need a sexologist! Yes, just any PhD. Get that Eden woman that you type with. Who? Which one? Bobby Eden. Yeah yeah Bobby will confirm well I can guarantee you that. Who's got the sexiest voice out there that we can get to say something? I love her but it ain't Bobby. There are women with these ridiculous voices, every once in a while you run into one like there's a PR woman occasionally she and always so I think guys always must get a kick out of it You answer the phone and this woman has just got this voice that is like holy crap what I always think

1:58:48 Man, oh man voice over work. Yeah you know this like what a voice I might know someone but yeah we need it we need to PhD to step forward and you know and we can say University of blah that can step forward and basically say in you know it has been proven that people who listen to the no agenda podcast and well people listening no agenda podcast have better so have a better sex life and is scientific proof that when you donate to the show your penis grows something like that would be great I don't think the news media is gonna pick that up what do you mean? we gotta come with something that actually would be newsworthy okay genius, come on I dont have anything if i had something id be doing it as we speak

1:59:35 Hey, I'm only a critic. I'm just a critic. I'm not an engineer Okay, I figured something out for you critic You have been harping on this for weeks and I think...I don't have the full answer yet But I have a theory about the president saying this And they should stop playing politics and act on them now These jobs proposals are also paid for by asking folks who are making more than $1 million dollars a year to contribute a little more in taxes These are the same folks who've seen their incomes go up. Folks! That's it, I'm glad you fell for it. Folks This is Code and I think I figured out Oh good, somebody did This is Code And he sending messages to Folk Nation Folk Nation also known as Folks Is an alliance of street gangs based in the Chicago area Which has since spread throughout the United Nations specifically in the Midwest and South

2:00:32 they are the, it gets better. They are the rivals to the people nation known as People so when the president is talking about folks he is sending code It's like his version of throwing gang signs and I was not able to yet find a specific message that would really work for the folks but I really think that there is something... So you think, let me summarize. So what you think is that Obama keeps saying folks because he's a gangster who is sending coded messages to his homies? Correct!

2:01:13 for them to do something else. So what we have to do is take and deconstruct the... using cryptography, we have to figure out what the message is okay so let's prove it all right so this is why I bring it up now listen to what he says from his presidential YouTube address let's deconstruct the gang sign he's throwing through his homies back in Chicago and they should stop playing politics and act on them now These jobs proposals are also paid for by asking folks who are making more than a million dollars a year. Okay, so he's saying yo drug dealers making more than a million dollars a year you think that could be it? How about extorting people that are making more than they know? Oh okay all right let's listen to the second folks To contribute a little more in taxes

2:02:00 Taxes are just code for the VIG, you know what I mean? Hey we need protection. So he wants them to up the ante on the protection bracket in Chicago These are the same folks who've seen their incomes go up so much Hey! You're benefiting from the whole drug trade have opened up with Mexico. Hey hey hey...you're benefitting Let's get some protection What do ya think? I'm liking it I, you know people are gonna call me crazy for this. Well they call you crazy anyway so what difference does it make? There ya go! Now we're going to start rethinking this whole thing with that in mind and see if we can deconstruct

2:02:40 When he says folks, that would be the key word for the message. Stay on it man! I'm telling you... He says it too much Yes he does and its always folks, folks, folks, folks, folks, folks. I betcha there's something to look which is another thing he does a lot of Look Gang No no no, not a Look Gang but maybe some generalized message from the police or something like that. He speaks a lot, gives a lot of speeches this guy In fact, I got one. I got the Obama on Halloween speech which kind of... See if you can find the subtext of this little clip

2:03:17 that says Obama will not be running for re-election. This is one of our little themes. Wait a minute, wait a minute... You can find the subtext in here. Wait a minute this is Obama on Halloween? Yeah! Okay. But... No wait stop stop stop Let me give it a set up he just got off the Halloween gig that they do at The White House but not on Halloween apparently and he's speaking to the Italian American community just to say hello. ...but now that Malia and Sasha are with their friends they do not notice that I'm gone They're now getting to that age they don't care. They're pleased that I didn't embarrass them too much during the brief time i was with them so, I am honored to be here to celebrate National Italian American Heritage Month This is a whole thing as a metaphor The whole thing they didn't notice that I was gone

2:04:10 The short time I was with them? The brief time I was with him, I thought was the key phrase. Yeah! Which is that he's not spending enough time with the kids Right... Time to quit Hmm interesting Get it in, just slip it in People still look at me funny when I bring this up and say he's gonna quit I will say people go Are you high? Are YOU high?! By the way, I was a little disturbed until I followed up on it. Right after our show on Thursday where NATO had announced that they were going to stay in Libya The United Nations came out and said we're ending it! We're ending it October 31st we are ending it It's all over. We are ending it. We are ending it. It is all done And I was like oh man...I can't believe this. We just said that..We were just joking about them not ending it

2:05:07 But luckily, I delved into the information. So you would agree with me that the mainstream media has said war is over we're done NATO was out of Libya right? Yeah Wrong United Nations No no they said it's done so it's done! No yeah they said it's done but that's not true. Huh United Nations Security Resolution 2016 on Libya You know I love reading this stuff What this does, it says they are recalling a number of the measures but there is not like the whole... so from resolution 1970 in 1973. But they are not recalling the whole thing! In fact, the only thing

2:05:57 Here it is. They are recalling its intention to keep the measures imposed by paragraphs 6-12 of Resolution 1973 under continuous review and to lift as appropriate, and when circumstances permit these measures. And to terminate authorities given to member states in paragraph 4 of Resolution 1973 in consultation with the Libyan authorities." So they didn't recall anything! Everything is in place except for an exemption a waiver if you will that has given two three oil companies

2:06:34 It is total bull crap. All of this is in the show notes at 352.nashownotes.com Complete lie! Resolution 2016 on Libya only says that they will recall, and by the way it's mainly about the financial freezing of assets That's what paragraphs 6 to 12 are they feel like it, if circumstances permit and if they agree in consultation with the Libyan authorities who are these self-imposed jabronis who were educated in Pennsylvania. So its total bull crap nothing has been lifted the whole place is still under complete security blanket and then we learned that there were 2300 British Army officers and personnel IN LIBYA

2:07:27 On the ground. Oh yeah, really? Yeah! How many people we got there? Who knows... who knows This whole thing is just like what a lie Big lie and the media just goes Ministry of truth shut up it's all true It's over And we just blew me away Blew me away Apparently Yeah, well you weren't really shocked though were you now? No I... Well no yes and no but still. I'm like really? You know it's that hard-I'm a disc jockey all i have to do with and then I read one paragraph of this thing I'm like oh it's not true they're just lying to us. Duh! We got a note from our boys at Occupy Wall Street Los Angeles yeah

2:09:15 Who did this? This was really actually quite good about the Obama, the bailout which we called for. Did we ever put this in The Red Book I think we did that the next big bail out would be the student loans Isn't that in the book? No, we've talked about it but we never put a... Damn. We should have put that in the books Yeah no and we talk about constantly which is that Obama's gonna use it as a carrot to get students to vote for him if he runs again even though we still are dubious about that So the way it works and there's a pretty good deconstruction of this on what is this ThePoliticalPulse.com so the average high-end school

2:09:54 is $55,700 a year. Hello? So when you get if you have a full on loan for four years plus the fifth year to go hang out and kick some tires You come out with something like two hundred and $23,000 of debt plus nine thousand dollars for your fifth year kicking around. The way this is supposed to work and if you do the numbers this is what's so great about it just doesn't add up What Obama is promising by the way nothing more than a promise because he just doing under executive order and not going to Congress or anything

2:10:35 And by the way, there are federal loan programs. It's not just all commercial but the way they want to set it up is you will not be required to pay any more than 10% of your discretionary income so that after you've paid rent and after you've paid for food I think its those two If you're making $60,000 a year which is about 45 thousand dollars after taxes if you buy of house your food so you got your discretionary stuff. You'll never be paying more than like 400 bucks a month So if you have it quarter million dollar loan in 20 years that's only sixty five thousand dollars So at the end of the day who's gonna pay for the real?

2:11:21 the real loan. It's going to be taxpayer money. Yeah, they're not gonna do that They stick these people in a nice slave situation and the interest will be going up and they still have all of these gotchas where if you miss a payment it's like a credit card You go from your 3% to 8%, you miss another payment, you go to 30%. Next thing you know they got some guy with a baseball bat coming over the house to break some kneecaps. I mean this is ridiculous! This is a complete abomination! Say it! Say it with me now. It's a slavery, an abomination Here is Ron Paul on the issue But would you admit that there are people who need federal help? Be in education or be it in housing or food stamps I mean that kind of thing Food Stamps

2:12:08 Yeah, there's always some needs. The market isn't perfect but instead of having a trillion dollars worth of debt and medical care system that is totally broke down you would always have some needs but that was in existence before 1965 But there was nobody out on the streets without medical care Nobody out in the streets... There are more people under bridges now than there were back then And also, there were loans. People do loan even if they have difficulty. You know sometimes it takes people six years to go through college and sometimes it takes people four years but back then there were jobs available but the whole thing was the cost was so much lower

2:12:49 So, yes it will not be perfect. But what we have now is a catastrophic mistake where people have a pseudo-education and no jobs and all debt I mean we've indentured them. And like slaves! Pseudo education and slavery this is great works as perfect by the way a repeat of at the two thousand eight elections uh... i guess because ron paul who of course is completely being out now they're just going to complete just ignore the guy one hundred percent and you know he won yet another poll but it's just some winning polls um... they're pulling out the old hit job on which is that he's a racist and now will blitzer canada and i guess in there like

2:13:35 Ah, 1992. Someone put out a newsletter and said like the Ron Paul newsletter, and there's all this racist crap in it And which of course stuff that has never come out of his mouth and wolf blitzer You know I guess he got the memos like hey now We got to knock this guy down a peg This is this Ron Paul guys irritating because it keeps winning even though we give him no coverage and by the way Young kids don't watch CNN. Okay? They don't watch as old people look at the commercials hearing aids free wheelchairs, you know penis medicine. When you're watching a show and they cut to a free wheelchair commercial you gotta rethink your priorities about what you are watching Believe me I do this a lot like why am i watch- who cares it's old people no of course old people have a vote not everyone want to be ageist

2:14:27 But yeah, the kids are not watching this. This is two minutes but it's well worth it because Ron Paul gets in Wolf Blitzer's face and smacks him and just says hey screw you! And I don't have the blitzer but he like... They just pulled the tapes out of the closet Like oh racist, black people are bad they only want to kill white people some horrible thing And he's confronting Ron Paul with, and Ron Paul gets pissed. Alright let's talk about it how could this happen? Because I've gone through some of these old Ron Paul newsletters and it has got your name bannered on the top in some of these comments as we just heard from Brian Speiser pretty shocking. Shocking! Yeah it is and of course its been rehashed a long time and coming up now for political reasons

2:15:20 But everybody knows in my district that I didn't write them and I don't speak like that And nobody has heard me ever say anything like that, and I've been reelected time and time again So everybody knows that I don't participate in that type of language but the point is when you bring this question up You're really saying your racist or are your racists? The answer's no. I'm not a racist Rosa Parks is one of my heroes. Martin Luther King is a hero because they practiced the libertarian principle of civil disobedience, non-violence. Libertarians are incapable of being a racist because racism is a collectivist idea you see people in groups and as civil libertarian like myself see everybody has an important individual it's not the color their skin that is important as Martin Luther King said what is important is the character of the individual

2:16:04 You know what is really interesting, though? And this might be behind this because I as a Republican candidate probably am getting the most number of black votes and black supporters. And now that has to be undermined. And I do this because I attack two wars that blacks are suffering from one, the war overseas in all wars minorities suffer the most so they join me in this position I have against the war in Iraq. And what about the war on drugs? What other candidate will stand up and say I would pardon all blacks, all whites everybody who are convicted for nonviolent drug acts. And this is where the real discrimination is let me finish this. Let me finish you bitch! I got to get my message back because you put the other message out

2:16:49 If you want to look for discrimination, it's in the judicial system. 14% of the inner city blacks commit drug crime. 67% of blacks are in prison! That is discrimination and that is the judicial code I am attacking and that is not racism What I defend is the principle of libertarianism where we never see people who belong to a group and every individual is defended and protected because they're important in the individual, not because their color skin but up there character. So I am the anti-racist cause I'm only candidate Republican or Democrat who would protect minority against these vicious drug laws. Ha ha ha! Fail Wolf fail!

2:17:32 A douchebag? Give Wolf Blitzer a douche bag. Hell yeah! You wanna hear his comeback? Uh, uh, Congressman... Crap that wasn't in the script I was supposed to like surprise him with these shocking documents Now i'm voting for Ron Paul What a stooge that Blitzer is Oh he's such an a-hole I mean, what kind of meeting did they have in the back? What are we going to do? Look at this. Look at what i found here on the internet! Well no, this is the race card that we know was being pulled by the Obama administration This is part of it. This is what its come down too We have a black man in the White House and he... well not specifically but I believe were gonna have more racist crap going on than ever It's nuts instigated by them This is crazy Holy moly Freaking out

2:18:26 Holy moly. Holy moly! I just... Well, I want to remind people that we do have an end of show clip with Representative Chavitz grilling Napolitano in a very humorous way even though she comes out and I want to mention something that happens at the end where she says well you know went to the Attorney General and then you talk about Fast & Furious and then it went to the Independent Council and The Fact Of The Matter is... Oh... The Fact Of The Matter Sorry, that's actually up one from last week. Yeah you were doing so well the point is is the I don't think I don't think that call I'm thinking Substitute the fact of the matter to for the point okay? Here's just a She had months and months before this hat before her excuses is invalid is the only thing I want To say so before we go. I have a question for you no what do you mean? No go ahead

2:19:25 I had dinner with, remember Nikki hooked up with the... she's got some friends and we kind of like hung out. The extremely successful entertainment lawyer in Los Angeles who have the box at you know the Lakers games? Yeah okay And so we had dinner with them yeah We see them like once every six months or whatever it was kinda like were going to Austin screw y'all And this guy, I didn't actually know he's 67 so he is older than you and I. But he is from the baby boober generation and your kind of on the cusp there. It turns out that he has a FBI profile He went down to Mississippi, he was on the forefront of it, got his head bashed in What was kinda interesting as he said

2:20:11 Because you know of course a little crack pottery came up. I didn't know the guy was like a complete like crazy radical back in the day and he says and all of sudden it came out right? It just started gushing because he felt like he could let his guard down, like he wasn't with a bunch of Horty's hoity-toity a holes that he usually hangs out with yeah, but he said it doesn't make any difference We're screwed this country is screwed the world is screwed and he's given up And I just wonder if you give it. Yeah, yeah He's saying it doesn't make any of us to this show at least well. I did me I need too busy reviewing cases. I don't know and I was like do you think that this is

2:20:56 No, and he agrees by the with what you said is that the you know the baby boomers failed He said we had the chance. We had we had the absolute chance to get it all done We failed forget about it this country. He says Europe is dead gone over He said, this country we give people the illusion of the American dream but they're all going to get screwed. They're all going to die and I care about is myself my family screw yall! And i was wondering do you feel that this maybe as a general consensus among the baby boomers? That they've also know what screw it there's a lot of that

2:21:34 I don't think it's a general consensus. I think there are still some optimists out there, but he was an extremist, it sounds like to me. That was incredibly disappointed Yeah, I think a lot of the baby boomers were the most left-wing of them became neocons. I mean all the neo cons are essentially communists Right, I mean literally right back in the day and you know So they did this like they've scattered They've gone in all kinds of different directions And I don't think it's his attitude is necessarily His negative attitude I might add is necessarily a consensus attitude. I think it's I think there's a lot of people like that I think that's it is a big problem You know what he did say?

2:22:16 He said the good news about this and this Occupy, he said the kids are gonna get laid and they'll have great music. And then I said oh by the way Good looking hookers. Oh yeah that too. Yeah we agreed on all of that okay well... I said that i still had belief for the fight. Hope! Yeah hope yeah. And I said hey you should donate like a million to the show. They looked at me goes Anyway, we certainly appreciate your help if you could consider going to Dvorak org slash na keeping the show on the air And I'm just I am here's my hope. I'm hopeful that people were holding back for the 1111 weeks that We got coming up here with eleven one eleven and eleven eleven eleven

2:23:03 And Dvorak.org slash NA is the place where you can go to find out as long along with channeldvorak.com slash na and noagendanation.com And No Agenda producer update is coming up Hopefully they'll be talking about the Linux port project that I have, but we'll see what they're talking about That will be on a live stream and We'll be back on Thursday coming to you from the hilltop watchtower crackpot command center while I'm just waiting for the euro quick I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where the, uh... I got no punchline for today's show. I'm John C. Dvorak and we'll have that end of show clip first with Lucy Napolitano We'll be back on Thursday right here with No Agenda. I don't believe i've ever spoken with Eric Holder about Fast & Furious How many agents since you've taken office how many of your agents have been killed in line-of-duty? Oh too many Do you know do you have any number well

2:24:10 I would have to double check, but I would say at least 12. How many guns from Fast and Furious operation were detected crossing the border? I do not know. How many guns from Fast and Furious were seized at the border? I do not know Why is it that in operation that big and that important and that much in the news you don't have the details of? Well Representative as you know it was an ATF operation In 2009, we know of two instances where ICE ceased investigating at the request of the ATF. Are there any other instances where you were asked your department and your agency was asked not to pursue cases that potentially had a conflict with Fast & Furious? In the wake of your investigation of Fast & Furious I've been made aware of those 2 ICE instances. I don't think I've been made aware of any others

2:25:18 Let me go to testimony that you had last week. Last week, you were with Senator Grassley. You were asked about communication with Mr. Burke regarding Operation Fast and Furious. Question for Senator Grassley – have you had some communications? Your response, and I'll read it very quickly. No not about Fast & Furious when Agent Terry was killed it was December 14th. I went to Arizona a few days thereafter to meet with FBI agents and assistant US attorneys who were actually going to look for the shooters at the time nobody had done forensics on the guns and Fast & Furious was not mentioned He went on to say, but I wanted to be sure that those responsible for his death were brought to justice and that every DOJ resource was brought to bear on the topic. So I did have conversations in it would've been December of 09, I think you meant December of 010 about the murder of Agent Terry but at the point in time nobody knew about Fast & Furious so that's a different question and yet we have documents that show and this is a quote

2:26:11 an urgent firearms trace requested by ATF agents on the scene to determine that these firearms came from Fast and Furious. Why is it that you, as a Secretary of Homeland Security with one of your agents dead on the scene did not get briefed about Fast and Furious? I do not know How is that acceptable? Do you think they withheld that information from you or is it your responsibility to actually find that information Well, I think the focus Representative Chaffetz is we had a dead agent and a dead agent killed in a very rugged area of Arizona. And the number one thing that was on my mind when I went out there was to make sure that the appropriate resources were being dedicated to that investigation. But you have guns from Fast & Furious that are found on this scene, You testify here just last week! That there was no knowledge of Fast & Furious at the time...that the forensics-you went out of your way to say that the forensic weren't done and yet that's not true

2:27:09 That's not true. I'm not going to comment on that, I don't know the document to which you refer what i can say and what I think is fairly clear from the context as I was speaking to my knowledge at the time and I did not know about Fast & Furious Did you direct or was there any direction from your department agency to allow the guns to go across the border that were involved in Fast & Furious? Fast and Furious was an ATF operation. So you, if your agents detected weapons going south across the border you just let them go because it was an ATF operation? As the two incidents you refer to, the two ICE incidents I think reveal is when they ran guns picked up guns and ran them or asked ATF to e-trace them ATF came back and said these are part of a larger operation stand down

2:27:59 After the second incident in which that occurred, that matter was taken by the ASACs to the Assistant U.S. Attorney which is common and happens in the field and the Assistant U.S. Attorney said that the ATF operation would take precedence So was it the Department of Homeland Security's policy to allow guns to go south into Mexico if they were involved in Fast and Furious? I'm looking for a yes or no No How is it that you can make a claim that the border is now more secure than ever, and yet the Obama administration purposely allows nearly 2,000 guns to be released knowing they're going to go to Mexico with hundreds of people killed by those weapons. Two dead US agents!

2:28:43 And yet you don't even know if we've detected even one of those guns. In fact, on January 14th you did detect somebody in New Mexico there were eight guns found they didn't even run a trace on them and you let those guns go into Mexico I find that absolutely stunning and for you to have two dead agents and have never had a conversation with Eric Holder about Fast & Furious and about this earth is totally unacceptable Totally unacceptable. Mr Chairman, I know Representative Chaffetz has his opinion on this matter as the tone of his question reveals but I simply would suggest that no one takes the deaths of agents more serious than I

2:29:22 and also that one of the reasons that we have not directly dealt with the Attorney General on this is he very quickly and appropriately put this matter in the hands of the Inspector General. Thank you. of the No Agenda show. Gavin, how are you? In the morning too, mate. I'm very well. In the morning to you two! It's the first time I've had a public in-the-morning with someone I haven't met before and look...I didn't always expect just find a no agenda fan at a sceptical event Well i am born again sceptic

2:30:00 I'm a former federal agent for the Australian Federal Police. Oh, of course! Look all the CISADMIDS and the dark ops people listen to The No Agenda Show... I am definitely dark ops so I specialise in surveillance Get out! And i'm waiting for my drone. Do you know if we've got any drones operating in Australia or can't afford them yet? Can't tell ya. Because I don't know And why are you here at Skeptic Camp today? Are you doing a bit of dark ops for ASIO here today or are you here on your own now. I'm here to try and pick up a few tips on the cryptography which we just listened out on, drop a few business cards... And by the way i got a business card and it's got the No Agenda Show logo on there! You're propagating the formula Yes, I like to propagate the formula as much as I can hit them in the mouth Tell me how did you discover The NO AGENDA SHOW

2:30:48 I was listening to Twit this week in technology, sorry. Heard John C. Dvorak mention it and I've been listening since the early teens. Yeah look same here, I heard it on Twit and thought well I'll give it a go. I hadn't hear of Adam Curry and its quite a combination It certainly doesn't meet the standard evidence that most sceptics would feel the show needs to meet but in some ways thats not important, its the ideas out there Absolutely correct And I like to break down the memes and listen, watch. Well that's what I've been doing since i was a young fellow in the army. I joined the army and went to an armored reconnaissance unit and I only believe what I can see which is why im here at Skeptic Camp. Because alot of skeptics get angry when I suggest they have listened to No Agenda because they find this show long they find it trivial and frankly crackpot

2:31:36 I don't mind hearing some crackpot. You've got to balance your crackpot and your buzzkill, so with those two it is just the dog's bollocks. What's your favourite bit of the show? I'm a fan of the second half of this show. We talk about the opening at Stargate with all the fish coming out... I'm just interested in being exposed to ideas that might be considered crackpot. I love it! I do too, I like to temper my logical side with a little bit of fun and crack pottery. Sometimes if you get too intense and sceptical you can sort of disappear up your own beard can't ya? Indeed you can... indeed you can In the morning to you. In the morning to you man at the BORAT talk show.