Grandma Clinton

00:00 When I met the Queen, I curtsied. I bet you did! Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's Thursday October 20th 2011 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 349-er This is no agenda I smell a rat here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in the Peoples Republic of Southern California In the mornin' everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're celebrating...I'm John C. Dvorak It's so funny how we think alike sometimes. Yes? Yeah, you said we're celebrating! Well let's do it properly!

01:03 Think we should just keep the machine gun going throughout the entire show One of our contributors a young I think he's in college Complaining you can't get his dad to listen to this show cuz he's a broadcaster every time he tunes anything since another morning zoo Hello hello It goes on it goes on for hours trust me yeah in the morning to you and by the way that particular machine gun sound is like Is really a classic clunker? Well, that's it. It's the ak-47 and I said they came 47. Yeah, I took it straight from the BBC soundtrack I mean live video sound It's nuts

01:54 I'll say it one more time. In the morning to you and in the morning all ships and seamen, boots on the ground and everyone else listening to this show Yes! And in the morning to all of the rats in the sewers who are smoking out their holes. And of course all our human resources in the chat room lined up ready to go at noagendastream.com NoAgendaChat.net So yeah, of course this morning we awoke here to the celebratory news That, uh... Moammar Gaddafi is captured killed. Uh maybe got him kind of here's a video camera screen cap footage I think we have him don't you know he's dead thing what well it depends on On what you mean by dead The series of events was rather interesting i have to say

02:46 So of course we don't know if he's dead this you know by the way yeah, you know We saw this since the beginning. We used to see these guys on them with those crazy guns in the back of pickup trucks Nobody ever shooting at him a course and they're firing aimlessly at everything And so they basically If you look at these towns, I mean whether Gaddafi's dead or not they have basically just shot up the place. Oh yeah! They didn't accomplish anything...I don't even know if they ever hit anybody but they wrecked literally wrecked these towns. The pictures of these towns that they attacked with these anti-aircraft guns aimed at buildings. No John first of all that's the NATO bombs we never saw on television What does that do? We never saw them all we saw was

03:35 Whatever the case is, it seems like a lot of damage. I have a little timeline that was actually funny because i was putting together and then this morning it comes out perfect the timing could not have been any better and of course I think everyone will agree that doesn't matter whether Gaddafi's dead or not It's the perception that counts And of course his body has been whisked away to a secret location for security reasons so we'll never actually ever see anything I'm sure You know, it's so beautiful how they find him in a sewer like a rat. Exactly what he called his own people! Everything just fits in nicely but what was interesting is two days ago Lucifer Clinton makes a trip over to Tripoli and stands up there and does a whole speech with Jibroni Jabril the quote-unquote prime minister of the Transitional National Committee

04:32 And, you know the coincidence of her being there in Tripoli although she says she was Tripoli all I saw was her and two flags who knows where she was. Yeah that's a good point. Then the BBC just to kind of add a little bit of oomph to the story they showed this did you see this new secret weapon that The rebels have? This, this... It's not an anti-aircraft gun screwed to the back of a pickup truck. You've got to look at this thing! Let me play the report for you and it's like well I'll play the report and they'll tell you exactly what it looks like

05:13 Well, anti-Qadhafi forces have unveiled their very latest weapon. It's very unusual this it's a bit of a behemoth and well it's concrete and steel It's a bit of a cross between a bulldozer in a battleship that's painted in the colors of the new national flag That's red green and black It was made in Misrata workshops that belonged to those opposing Gaddafi. It's got four machine guns on the top, but the strange thing is that the driver can't actually see where he is going. A camera shows him where he is on the road." Look at this thing on Google Jon it's like a Mardi Gras float I swear to God! It's like a battleship made of concrete and steel

05:56 It goes like two miles an hour with little slots for gun turns. It's the stupidest thing ever! I think literally they had some kind of parade, like a Mardi Gras and then the BBC said oh no that's their latest secret weapon They have a series of photos on The New York Times Africa site Yeah And they show this thing in this crazy gun they've made which looks like But do you see the boat? I only have one picture of the front of that thing. It looks like somebody, some custom shop out of Los Angeles went berserk Yeah like Chopper's USA or whatever, one of those reality shows Hey man! California Customs No no what is this? Those redneck and guns guys maybe they put it together You know those gun reality shows it was the stupidest thing ever So anyways so Lucifer there... You go to the party too don't you think? Oh course

06:50 So Lucifer Clinton is there two days ago and she does a speech at simultaneously with Gibroni Jibril, the US educated prime minister I might point out in the educated University of Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania. And she says something which when I analyzed it when I listened to it Sounded to me like the setup was there, ready to go. Signal was given. And we think that the programs that the Transitional National Council have outlined... ...to pay for the families of fallen martyrs and prepare programs Notice she uses the word martyrs and she used it a lot by the way not victims but they're martyrs. Programs and treatment and training for those who have served are exactly what will be needed

07:41 getting a national army and police force under civilian command is essential. And the United Nations, the United States and other partners stand ready to do that." Wow! See I thought that was pretty interesting So you have to build an army and we're going to do that for you unless i misunderstood. Play it again. Okay hold on quick rewind and we think that the programs that the transitional national council have outlined to pay to the families of the fallen martyrs, to prepare programs and treatment and training for those who have served are exactly what will be needed. Getting a national army and a police force under civilian command

08:40 Is essential and the United Nations the United States and other partners? Stand ready to do that. What do you think so as they were sending it aids yeah advisors boots on the ground Well, but she also said you know we will put our techno experts in and we'll train new people We are also Very focused on the young people of Libya who have the most to gain from this new freedom and today I'm pleased to announce we are resuming the Fulbright program and doubling its size To permit even more Libyan students to study and train in my country She had noticed a full by Fulbright program would be about studying, but she slips in the training word. Yep

09:31 And then finally this was just a little... She's not very, you know she's actually not very good. She's not subtle for sure or subtle at... In other words if she was a poker player and you were sitting across from her the cards would be turned around and you could see them. She's got a big tell well here's the one that I thought was uh the funniest Libya is blessed with wealth and resources most particularly the human resources We will suck you dry of your human resources goodbye money. I love you have a good flight bye darling Thank you, is that you doing Hillary? Yeah That's Mickey's girlfriend is leaving for Holland again Don't sit on my chair next time damn it so this yeah human resources. Let's go suck them dry

10:24 So Hillary was there, then on the 19th yesterday Juhuma Jabbar, Jabroni Jabril comes out and says you know I might resign tomorrow which would be today. He literally does a statement, it's in Time Magazine. He says I'm going to resign it's a mess the military leadership is all f'd up you know if this doesn't shape-up I am resigning and not doing anymore of course the guy isn't real like Libyan freedom fighter he was lived in United States educated here works for State Department and he's like this is a mess

11:00 I want no part of this. So the day after Hillary is standing there with him, the very day after he says i'm going to resign and it might be tomorrow now who benefits from a victory in Libya? Well besides the oil companies well which political figure benefits the most who needed some help? Obama for sure Somewhat for sure, but the real guy I mean who started this whose war is this? This is not necessarily Obama's war it's the oil companies War which oil company total FINA. It's a friend. This is a French thing French and British

11:43 and in the past two days president... Oh so you're thinking Sarkozy benefits the most? Check this out, this is a guy from the Hoover Institute which is some kind of BS drinking club think tank he's on CNN this morning sounding a lot like Kissinger or like a Kissinger-Brezhinski love child saying exactly what it's all about. Well I think that Arnold may have fallen on hard times but but there was a line in his movie which I like. He's talking about Schwarzenegger here for a minute. You know, in the Terminator where he says you have the right to remain silent Qaddafi had the right to remain silent if there is one man in the world who abused the whole nation who stole its wealth who took away it's liberty It was none other than Muammar al-Qaddafi and look at the way Qadafi ends The end of the way Saddam ended. You know Saddam came out of a spider hole saying I'm Saddam Hussein and I want to negotiate

12:38 I think that this is justice. This is the game this man played and If you really want one person who has been vindicated in the course of this event and this war, it's actually Sarkozy. He has a new baby, the president of France he had the new baby and he's been vindicated in Libya." So the new baby thing is bullcrap who cares about that? He wasn't even there for the birth of his daughter because he was off running to Brussels to interrupt out the retirement ceremony of Jean-Claude Trichet the European Central Bank douchebag who's skipping out, the rat jumping off the ship before it all comes tumbling down to try and strike a deal with Herr Merkel. To get some of that European Stability Fund money because the French banks are about to fall over in addition he's got a real contender now on the political scene for the upcoming election this guy needed a political win so I think it benefits Sarkozy yeah probably

13:42 But you know, they're still not going to help. I mean there's one inch away from downgrading the French banks which will screw up everything so they won't do it but they're that close You don't think that ratings agencies will do that? There were Moody's has already threatened and it seems as which and by the way, those are always followed by action but the problem is if the French banks are downgraded then it changes the way you can invest into the banks If your big these big funds because now you don't have triple-a rating so you can't exist So money would get pulled out And you'd end up with I mean their situation in Europe is deteriorating to such an extreme that III actually

14:24 Kind of I'm not. I'm not sure what's gonna happen It's not gonna be good well in Athens today once again blood on the streets huge Strike everything is just deadlocked nothings moving No one's doing anything the slaves are revolting a Greek bond for you know what they're with their Rate is on a Greek group 180 isn't like 180 or something under 88 so wait, so If I put $100 into Greek bonds, I would get 188% back.

15:00 That sounds like a good deal. It is, but they're saying that they're going to be around in a year as opposed to going broke. What does it cost to hedge against that? What is a credit default swap? Believe me these things have been so finely tuned that you as an amateur or me as an amateur can't do it. We can't win huh? I mean if we were Goldman we'd probably have some scam we could do and make money on it but no I mean you can make money by buying the bonds and hoping to God that they don't go broke then you make a killing but it's a one-sided gamble. Then we have, yeah everything is falling apart there very very well right now the slaves of Gitmo Nation lowlands this is stuff that you'll never hear about here and of course I speak Dutch so I read Dutch publications for a lot people will send me articles

15:54 Although there is an Occupy Amsterdam, there's an Occupy The Hague. I think there are two or three more cropping up in the lowlands. News just came out that the pension funds will probably have to drop their payouts by 15% in 2013 and premiums will have to go up and people are like, okay whatever. Pasta cheese I mean they're getting screwed! That's good well they're gonna really be screwed shortly it's gonna be blood in the streets especially in Europe where they were there occupy movements a little more violent

16:43 You know, the Dvorak Horowitz show this last Tuesday... I saw the title. I haven't listened to it yet. It was 999 was the title right? Yeah, 999. I thought that was cute! I'll put it on right after the show. I just wanted to mention one thing that he developed. Horowitz actually had a couple of things where I was kind of taken aback by but one of them is his explanation for the strength of the euro He says that, and the same with the Japanese yen. The reason those two currencies are so strong is because they're trying to repatriate as much money back into the system as possible because they're in desperate straits. In other words, it's an odd phenomenon but the currency is strong because the economy is about to collapse

17:28 Oh, so just decimate the currency. So this is uh...this is like the final fingernails on the cliff? Is that what you're saying? Essentially yeah! I kept grilling him because he has to follow this stuff on a daily basis because it affects our markets but I kept grilling him and how long... Yeah when? When? When? ...I've been asking for these European papers How long can this go on? stall the inevitable. There's nothing that, there's nothing changed, well I'll tell you that the European publications that i'm able to read and that said Dutch obviously British although they're kind of not really in the euro but of course it all tied together German some German

18:09 No one's really talking about a collapse. They're all talking about the fix and that you know, And the main thing being that France is about to... The French banks are about to go down everyone realizes that and That the essential war right now is between Germany in France gee where have I heard that before? Ha! Yeah, and at the French want to raid the stability fund the minute the Germans have funded it and the Germans like now I don't think so So they don't the Germans are having none of that, but no one is really talking about the consequences Other than you know one or two blogs. I read the slog who's a Actually put on the knowledge in the news network knowledge and a newsnetwork calm His posts are pretty interesting And he's saying it said yeah It was just it's all gonna come apart and I trust his opinion because he's been right a lot

19:00 But we do have the G20 coming up and that's supposed to fix everything. Obama and Timmy Geithner are gonna roll in there, and it's gonna fix everything I tell ya! Not a problem. It'll be great I've got this great, great clip of Geithner going on about the... About how we should or should not celebrate national events. You should play that clip so you get a kind of feeling for how Geithner's going. This is how he should celebrate in America! I saw John McCain this morning literally like, This is a day for celebration. I'm like, YAY! We all should be shooting our guns in the air man. This is- Celebrate we kill another guy's dead dead. We celebrate killing people in this country

20:03 Dead, dead, dead. I don't have any bombs in that clip unfortunately You don't need bombs you just shoot the gun in the air So did you read the description of his... First he was shot they had this gory description while he died As if anybody's there taking notes They shot him in the legs first Shot in the legs I guess Then he had to limp off to a tunnel where they were like a rat Like a rat! There was a great clip, I was actually waiting until 9 o'clock because i saw it live on CNN where Lucifer is waiting for an interview in Afghanistan and they're already rolling the camera and someone hands her a blackberry she goes wow just confirmed they got Gaddafi! And she's like moist. She's just like melting away

20:53 on her chair. It was beautiful, unfortunately maybe CNN has put it up because it was like exclusive CNN footage she was so happy everyone's just like you know instead of how about a little if it is true that we killed another world leader and of course the US wants to take some responsibility for it hey hey hey! We did bomb yeah we shot some bombs. It wasn't just jets. It was our jet come on eh? Hey give us some props here It's not, you know how about some like you know well we're really sorry that it's come to the... whatever just play the script out but no! No it was like yeah I'm gonna celebrate John McCain. Yeah I got my buddies from Coca-Cola yeah we're all gonna be great and by the way let me read you from the Reuters report and tell me why something here just doesn't make any sense

21:43 Megta told Reuters earlier that Gaddafi, who was in his late 60s, was captured and wounded in both legs at dawn on Thursday as he tried to flee in a convoy which NATO warplanes attacked. I thought it was supposed be no-fly zone by the way. He said that he had been...he said that the reporter said he'd been taken away by an ambulance An NTC fighter in Surat said he had seen Gaddafi shot after he was cornered and captured in a tunnel near a roadway. Does this... First, he's like with a group of people in the convoy then he is shot and then ambulance gets him and takes him somewhere And then next thing you know he's in a tunnel by himself apparently I mean this whole thing it just

22:21 Why do they give us these these reports that are so sketchy? Who knows I mean these guys well listen to Hillary here's a heres and here's the see it the CNN clip from this morning where she's told about Gaddafi listening to this She's looking at the Blackberry Wow I'm moist. Unconfirmed. Unconfirmed. Unconfirmed, yeah. Unconfirmed reports about Qaddafi being captured. Unconfirmed? Unconfirmed. Yeah we've had too many- We've had a bunch of those before you know have him- Have had him captured a couple times. A couple times but i'm moist regardless. Douchebaggett! You should see your face though it's pretty uh pretty outrageous Was she surprised or was she

23:18 No, it's almost like she knew this was going to happen. Kind of like oh today was the day? How come no one sent me the memo? Yeah how come I'm not in the loop on this? How come didn't get the memo before...I have to read off a damn Blackberry? Please people! Get it together! Nah well that's uh yeah I mean we have nothing really no other analysis other than Sarkozy benefits So how many days has it been? Uh let me see It is US policy that Gaddafi needs to go. But let me emphasize that we anticipate this transition to take place in a matter of days and not a matter of weeks." Wow, I think it's been 213 days 14 days something like that? Well its days its getting a lot of days! It's not weeks that's for sure He was implying it was going to take a couple of days

24:14 And we still don't really, really know. We've played clips of him before I really like the Libyan Transitional National Council Info Minister That guy's pretty funny. He looks like he could be German, you know like a big fat beer belly and his shirt unbuttoned You know the far cry from what our spokeshole for the White House looks like And that guy is... He's funny I like him His English is pretty good and it's just like he doesn't say anything but he's entertaining to watch and listen too We'll be seeing him a lot more in the future

24:58 So we'll see, we'll see what happens with the next moves are and it's really weird because there were all kinds of reports that Gaddafi had 10,000 troops coming up from other countries in Africa. And of course we know that it was very very bloody what was going on certainly in Sirte but also in Tripoli and looked like the Gaddafi loyalists as they're known, i.e., the sovereign people of the nation who didn't want this happening in the first place were striking back and well you know Sarkozy needed a win he got his win Obama certainly could use a win he got his win and let's not forget that Lucifer is leaving! And it was nice for her to go out on high as well to have a wing she's leaving at the end of this presidency

25:43 Would you like to hear her lie for about a minute and half? Oh, I love listening to her. Okay so she's interviewed by some other hot chick from...I don't know which station and it's about her leaving Now Clinton seems ready to step out of the spot Good morning America is uh... wait who where's Ann Curry yeah she's today show No Ann Curry is today show Light what do you think life will be like when after 20 years in politics It'll be you and former president at home sitting around First of all, she's got this big grin as this question is being asked.

26:21 You're like, really? I'm gonna sit around with that- Yeah we're gonna be sitting around cooking marshmallows. With that douchebag?! I don't think so! I can't wait... I can't wait! I can't wait! That'll be great! Can't wait! Obviously were going to be very active but it is something that i am really looking forward to enjoying when I get to go home on the weekends which isn't often enough It's just great to do as little as possible It's great to be around Bill. I just love it, he is so much fun! It's great and this whole interview was chopped by the way completely chopped. I think you know after this 20 years that'll be very welcome One title i know you seek to have one of these days is grandmother Yes you figured that out Why she said yes you figured that out? I don't quite understand something must have happened

27:16 beforehand, before the interview? That uh... because her answer is kind of a non sequitur. But I noticed that Chelsea's been doing more events we saw her couple weeks ago doing an event with you do think she has the Clinton bug for politics? I don't know i dont have any reason to believe that I think she does have the public service bug Hold on! Lie We know from our inside information, from our makeup artist that they are now gearing her up and they're getting her ready for public office and they're trying to find funding in the getting people on board right? Yep. So for her to say no but she has the help people bug yeah yeah what is she gonna be ambassador to Haiti? That seems to be in our DNA Will you run for president 2016 No, no you know Savannah I'm

28:03 I'm very privileged to have had the opportunity... No, she's running in 2012! Yeah exactly. She is not going to run in 2012. She has not served my country and I am really old-fashioned. I feel like I've made my contribution and done the best that I can But now you know I want to try some other things. Yeah, like spending all the money I stole. Want to get back to writing and maybe some teaching working on women and girls around the world? Secretary. We want to get back to writing we're gonna have enough- Wait a minute wait a minute just take tea clip working on women and girls I can't wait to be working on women and girls around the world. I am really old-fashioned, I feel like. Made my contribution, done the best that i can but now you know I want to try some other things. I want to get back to writing and maybe some teaching working on women and girls around the world

29:05 That's bad John I Can't wait to Start working on women and girls around the world Secretary Clinton politics is in your blood people will not believe that you are closing. Did you hear that laugh she made? door and locking it on running for office ever again. You know they'll have to just watch and wait I have made my contribution, i'm very grateful that I've had a chance to serve but I think its time you know for others to step up Others need to step up! Step Up! I've stepped up! I'm gonna work on girls and women around the world now

29:44 The work on girls and that is very a weird way of saying it I have to oh, yeah That's definitely strange code. Yeah uh-huh? Yeah as definitely code You know I'm surprised she doesn't she did does it mouth the words call me and hold her hand gesture friend me on Facebook yeah, call me call me if you want to be worked on Let's work on some of our executive producers for today. John? We're a little short today, but we do have one major contributor... Our baron. The baron comes in again!

30:27 Wow. Comes in with the 1-1-1-1-1 Why don't we just call this the no agenda show for Baron Von Pelsmacher's? The von Pelsmacher show! Yeah, really. He says he is sorry he is always a few weeks behind and just got to the episode where Adam talks about his impending dental needs I'm not a doctor and socialized medicine works pretty much like charm here but the costs there seem like Rip off to me and no kidding in any case I guess in the cosmic karma scheme an additional donation towards offsetting these costs can only help us both Really enjoy listening to the podcast in these times of turmoil both globally and personally for as long as I can afford To support your show. I will do my best use the amount qualifies Please hand out the night Dame hood to whomever you seem fit to bestow it upon Amongst a group of donors who would be honored by it We'll work on something in that regard in the morning and adios mofos Baron von Pell's mocker, so let me ask you a question Do you think its coincidence?

31:25 Baron Von Pelsmachers being in Belgium. Do you think it's coincidence that after they bailed out the Belgian Dexia Bank, that all of a sudden he comes up with some cash? He probably got to take some money out of the bank and send a big dog to go home! Well maybe he runs the bank I don't know... he is a true baron Yeah, well he is the Baron. He owns the bank and technically if our world order was put into play... He does own it doesn't he? And then we have another associate executive producer and member of the 349 club sole member from Accra Ghana West Africa Dean Bertram Hello John and Adam in the morning to you from Gitmo Nation Palavasas

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34:07 Yeah, there's their statues of Kim jong-il and his dad all over the what we need is We need a picture of a couple of North Korean college kids with their slave T-shirts on in front Of a statue of kim jong il and my advice wear sunglasses. Yeah, I think a hood plastic bag Paper bag paper bag over your head and now and i'll send it to my uncle don he'll get a kick out of it I just think it's hilarious and of course it revitalizes my interest in visiting the place. Yeah, but the so anyway So he had to package him you know because the State Department has restrictions and so they're packaged as humanitarian It's humanitarian aid. It is humanitarian their warmers is some sort of chest warmer Oh its a...I know what it is like

34:55 We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water... So we're just saying it's blankets? And water. Blankets and water. Anyway, so that's a breakthrough! That is! That compensates for the donation levels in it. It just warms my heart. Hello North Korea! Apparently there are a lot of slave ships going into Africa You know, it's just kind of ironic. Yeah, it wouldn't it wouldn't yeah really where do our shirts come from? Are they making like a big round Robin he doesn't say They come from Ghana Bertram actually runs the facility

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38:51 And finally, LipitorSlave.com All beautiful domain names It's a great PR initiative We appreciate that as well as our executive producers for today Dean Bertram and Baron Steven van Pelsmachers from the Barony of Belgium we highly appreciate you keeping our show on the air certainly getting us through the next couple days Everyone else! You do have a mission it is propagating the well-known formula Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth. New World Order! Say it with me now in North Korea! Shut up, slave. You know yesterday for my big book show I interviewed Jonathan Kaye who is and this is for the No Agenda Book Club people he works for The National Post up there in Canada

39:55 And he's also a freelance journalist for such stellar publications as Newsweek and Time. And, he has written a book Which is called living among the truthers and of course there's a total setup for my buddy here who books these interviews because this guy is like the anti conspiracy theorist Authority oh, that's great. You know why why because now somebody can finally I mean? I've been waiting and waiting to explain Why World Trade Center 7 just fell down like for no good reason well so the title of the book is Among The Truthers

40:32 Hold on the agent. Let me just get you the Subtitle a journey through America's growing conspiracist underground and what he underground I guess huh, and what he doesn't do is actually refute any of the Any of the theory certainly not WTC 7 etc but the whole book is basically If you are conspiracy theorists And yeah these sections it off into a number of different kinds You know, you're like the failed historian. You're the, uh...you know, the wanker, the alternate history guy. Yeah no, yeah, the failed historian. Uh, you're clinically insane and I actually kind of fit in that category along with Crank

41:18 That's another one. Crank, it's good? But basically crank... that's a word we don't use enough anymore We don't use the word crank enough. The guy is a crank! And but basically were all anti-semites that's the whole story of this book and its all based upon this prophets of the elders of Zion and so I didn't really confront the guy Too much. I mean, I wanted to draw him out and... Out of my house! Well it was via Skype so he was in Toronto and I couldn't really kick him out of the Skype but you know I did put this up on the stream and i'll put a link to it after I've spun all out of the camera It's video interview but I'll put the audio as well

42:04 And I say, you know and then he's like no video is really dangerous. It basically it was like internet dangerous Really really bad in your bat because the video was really really bad and I said well don't you think that? Hillary's a techno experts are misusing that the guy He starts uh yeah, yeah, but you know this professionals not different When professionals are doing it, it's okay. Oh so that's good for us then? We're professionals! Yeah well there you go... So how about let's talk about new conspiracy theories like Libya. Are we there for oil or...? No no no

42:40 The United Nations, they just stumbled on this. He literally said like five times you know like Obama he just stumbled into it You know it's like what are we gonna do? He just tripped and stumbled so everything's just a big giant accident. Yeah, that's a big accident Nobody plans anything in this world of ours So then I started looking at this guy's history. He's a member of think tank the foundation for defending democracies Which is basically, you know they have Project Syria. I mean these guys are all about the techno experts and... Oh so he's basically a... Total shill! Disinformation specialist? Total total total What was the name of this think tank? The FDD Foundation for Defending Democracies And it's a whole bunch of uh when you look at the board of directors It's a whole bunch of military guys and CFR and all that

43:32 You know, it's just... It was a good book to read. I did learn one thing that conspiracy theories are really only bought into by men We have a lot of women listeners Well i'm not talking about our show! We're not mentioned in the book I might add so we're not conspiracy theorists No, I don't feel attacked at all you can say what you want we're media deconstructionist were media arsonists I think deconstruction is a little more positive. But anyway, go on. Assassins! It's good to read the book. No it's...I would say read this book because then you can understand So what did you learn? You learned that there are no women involved with... This is interesting because the last time I was accosted on the street by a truther

44:27 It was a pretty girl in San Francisco handing out DVDs along with the crowd of people that were watching it in small circle with a bunch of signs saying, you know truth be 9-11 truth and she hands me a DVD I got to chat with her and she wasn't female. I don't know what they're talking about there's two or three of them in the group Yeah, 2 or 3 but that what I learned... Outta 5! I mean come on What I learned Was at the end of the day we're all anti Semites That's what I learned and that's a very dangerous precedent for these guys to be pursuing. And it's really the same throughout the entire book. It is the same anti-semitism thing that Fox, Hannity and these guys are throwing at the Occupy people now. Oh yeah! Now before we get into that just a WTC7 reference this just came in this morning according to The Wall Street Journal

45:17 has avoided a potential showdown with Manhattan federal judge, Judge Alvin Hellerstein declined yesterday to find the CIA in contempt for destroying videotapes of its interrogations of September 11th detainees concluding that it would serve no beneficial purpose to penalize the agency. That's not a problem. You can just destroy whatever evidence you want, and you don't need to be punished. It wouldn't be beneficial! Yeah no kidding those are the guys with the drones the judge is thinking. They're running the drone program I'm not gonna mess with them No i don't think so So... I guess that kind of says it all I had a different Geithner clip actually like your little whining Timmy

46:16 I'm not a big fan of Rand Paul. I can't exactly put my finger on it why he's kind of creepy? I don't know what it is He doesn't have at all this the appeal Ron Paul has to me. I saw this what you're gonna play I was I no, I didn't think there was much there Did you talk about the hearings that were going on in small business hearings with the Geithner yeah about the interest rates and Paul went off the... that was the worst. I mean, it was crazy. Ron Paul's interpretation of how interest rates work... Rand Paul! Not Ron Paul. Rand Paul.

46:56 Well, this is important how interest rates work was it's just wrong. This is wrong. This is important because I Specifically got this clip because I wanted to ask you about the truth behind this What do you think caused the housing crisis and I guess to begin with what do you think caused a housing bubble? from 201 207 oh Without being too technical about we had a long period of very low rates in And we had a terrible erosion underwriting standards. And those two things together caused a huge overinvestment in housing and Americans were allowed to borrow a huge amount relative income in their housing value, and when the storm hit you know things like crashing down. I agree who do you think in the country it had more influence over interest rates than anybody else?

47:44 Can you think of a body, maybe in New York? It has a lot of bankers involved with it. You want to call it the Central Bank? The Federal Reserve? Maybe the New York Fed? Maybe the Open Market Committee? You were right that I was vice chairman at the FOMC and I was president of the New York Fed for five years period and I started it in the fall 2003 I hate to interrupt you, but interest rates are the price of money and they should fluctuate based on demand for the money. If government controls the interest rates and you obscure the market forces, as an economy heats up people are bidding for money. The price of the money goes up and you get a tamponading effect and slowing down in the economy if you don't do that if interest rates are not allowed to rise the economy keeps going but it's an illusion that illusion is a bubble and it bursts so what Rand Paul is saying

48:41 because of monetary policy and it goes on a little bit further he goes back to that tit-for-tat with uh... timmy timmy tit for tat with timmy um... rand paul is asserting that because the federal reserve sets interest rates they are responsible for the long term uh... interest rate and therefore for the financial collapse i think there's a lot of was responsible parties for the financial class because you explain how interest rates work. I'm not going to be able to explain it in any details, people can look a lot of this up and see what interest rates are the way they are but first of all there's a couple things that the Fed only sets as short-term interest rate long term bonds or set by the market which is determined by you know the interest rates are determined by market conditions like right now for example they're low because there's such demand for US Treasuries around the world despite what they're telling you

49:33 because it's one of the safe havens and they know that US government will blow up some other country to make sure those bonds are paid off. so there's a strong demand for American treasuries from everybody and yeah, so that is a market condition thing. Now the Fed does buy and sell these things themselves to try to because they have one thing in mind they don't really care about bubbles or anything else their whole job supposedly is to keep inflation from ravaging the country and they do it any way they can and if it and they use interest rates as And before we had the Fed, and no I'm not defending them because they need auditing and they need somebody to look into why are they giving money to foreign countries. So I think there's some corruption there that needs to be looked at but before you had a pure system where interest rates fluctuated just by

50:28 on their own under whatever circumstances and be pre-1903 or whenever. You had a stock market crash about once every two years it would the cycle of crashes was extremely high and it was very difficult to recover from this is actually worked pretty well when we had The system has worked pretty well until they pulled out Glass-Steagall and all these protections the public protections that kept the banks under control, but once that was eliminated by both Clinton and Bush at they just opened up

51:04 the gates of hell to this situation that we're in and I think Rand Paul's being disingenuous with his argument. And i will point out that Ron Paul who released his plan to reduce the deficit by one trillion dollars in one year... I thought that was a great plan, by the way! Yeah, I liked it too and he doesn't say I'm gonna remove- In fact, he explicitly says I'm not going to remove the Federal Reserve but they have to be audited We have to figure out what's going on there I thought, by the way, I did watch the American gladiators. I'm sorry, the Republican debate... my goodness!

51:39 That thing is, what a show. Hey I'm telling you this was in the paper of the New York Times they were discussing it and it seems to be all over the place This these Republican debates are getting such great ratings Yeah fantastic Anderson Pooper he's up there All of them are geting good ratings so now they're going to have 12 more of em' It seems Because its bonanza And the way they set it up and big very lights Here are the contestants Bring him on out Anderson Pooper And it's just great and they're funny, and they've got you know They're like touching and getting into it and getting angry. And then we've got Michelle Bachmann dressed like Hitler light with a little white Sailor outfit on it was beautiful now I really I really loved what I what I loved even more is

52:29 CNN what did you see before the debate started no I missed it before oh no before the debate Aaron Burnett CFR shill extraordinaire the douche douche who disappointed me i was so in love with her until they found out that she's a shill She was out, you know what it was just like the Academy Awards. What they'll do is though They'll be outside the venue and kind of like a glass box right? And you know that they're talking that you know That had their talk about the red carpet and everything and then do they have a little background and they do a photo shoot Yeah I'm sure they had that. I haven't seen that yet, but you know they did have the wardrobe conversation But of course Occupy Las Vegas was there and Aaron is like this smoke coming out every years listen The countdown clock will go up and you can probably hear the protesters They have been protesting these people are singing

53:30 Banks got bailed out, we got sold out. There have been other protest groups here today protesting immigration, protesting gay rights, protesting a variety of issues. These obviously are... there's racism protesting and this obviously is protesting about the banks' taxation. But let's bring in Wolf Blitzer anchor of CNN Situation Room John Avalon, contributor and columnist for The Daily Beast and Gloria Borger-CNN. They're all smiling like yeah it's great! Hey shut up I can't hear myself I'm a big political analyst. All right, good to see all of you and we're seeing the American system in full swing on all sides. Occupy Las Vegas that's what they're doing here. That's right! They don't show a single shot of the crowd by the way... of the protesters. You just hear a bunch people yelling, yeah, we got sold out this is the... they didn't expect this and didn't know

54:23 put themselves in soundproof booths or something. It's very distracting, it's terrible! It's ruining the pre-show! Yeah it's ruining the pre show! This is no good will you guys stop that? You're ruining the pre show! I'm surprised somebody didn't do that. He had a hot red dress on. The guy sneaks in behind and he got a sign pointing at dad talking on his cell phone. So did you clip anything from the debate You know I have the whole debate. I still have it. I watched twice and I could you know It wasn't tight enough that I could get a good clip if you got something, you know listen to it Well there were just a couple things so I didn't clip this but I loved absolutely loved Bachman going Anderson Anderson Anderson Anderson Call on me Anderson Anderson Anderson Anderson

55:10 And Santelli was also waving his hand, like holding up his hand. Like he's in the third grade asking to be called on by the teacher. I did like... Ron Paul had a pwning moment which i really liked where it's about you know this hostage that was negotiated between Israel and the Palestinian Authority I believe This hostage they got back and they released. Right, that soldier? Yeah and then Israel released 400 prisoners and you know it was a basic... everyone's like we will not negotiate! We will not negotiate with them! the

56:04 what you want a piece of me bitch? What, what. The country was not a terrorist organization number one that's... That is a great comeback if they're not terrorists not terrorist organizations and Ron Paul comes out swinging again good friends they're not a good friend yeah they were good friends They are a sovereign country just like the Palestinian Authority is not a good friend to Israel He negotiated for hostages there's there's a role we negotiate with hostages who's at the Soviet Union now it's like oh do it all the time okay okay Iran or Soviet Union We've negotiated with hostages depending on the scale, but there's a difference between releasing terrorists from Guantanamo Bay in response to a terrorist I love it. They're not terrorists they are suspects! They haven't even had a trial yet. Then negotiating with other countries where we may have an interest and that is certainly a proper role for the United States. And then this stupid audience is like huh?

56:58 What? The audience is... Come on. What, what? No McCall's make nothing but sense. He makes a lot of good points and then Santelli is such as stooge And you know that guy why he even running by the way he has a broken nose That's bent to his Right which means that somebody hit him with it with a right hook In the nose at some point when he's probably in high school, right? And he'd never had the nose fixed so he has an asymmetrical face Which nobody will ever vote for our president with an asymmetrical face. Let me tell you right now Yeah into today's world It's hard to Photoshop that

57:37 He's gonna take a lot more in photos. The thing needs to, he needs have gone to the doctor you know some years ago and had it rebroken and fixed I don't know if does he think it's attractive? Anyway, I digress. Yeah yeah you do However one very important highlight And then I'll get off these debates but a very important highlight John There's been an upset in Hollywood Have you heard about this I just have to do a Lindsay Lohan. No well no, but there's an upset in Hollywood the showrunners are like oh my God What what a brilliant idea we have a new host for? now shoot I Got the wrong one big lead-up fail maybe I could maybe I could maybe it could

58:25 Could edit it no one would know hey, I'll try to get what you don't edit. No no one will notice we have a new host for The brand-new host of our game show win loser drone please say hello to Rick Curtis There's a better way, and that is to build a virtual defense zone if you will along that border which is not unlike what Herman was talking about. And you can do it with strategic fencing in the obvious places where it matters but the way you really stop activities along that border that are illegal whether its drug cartels or bringing in illegal weapons

59:08 uh... immigrants are coming in is to put boots on the ground i'll die will tell you how many people a lot of books on the ground use predator drones that are being trained right up here at creek air force base in nevada yeah real-time information to get out there it's on the ground that information and they can instantly moved those areas as soon as i was a hellfire missile Get those drones in the air. Yeah, that's the guy I want for president please Put drones put some drones over there real-time information so whoever gets elected is gonna do that anyway There was this guy, he's a terrible...he's blown every single debate and then he went after every time he brought up any point about Romney. He'd go on about his hiring illegals which Romney explained I thought adequately although somebody did call Romney out

1:00:03 uh... on one of the right to have all douchebags that's a whole thing is exactly what you said it it is a ratings bonanza who cares is not by the next president agri and and unfortunately let me just explain this when i think it's kind of interesting the guys points out that ronnie didn't give a shit really about hiring illegals he just didn't want he says look i can have bill legals working for me i'm running for president is all image here but that was kinda funny You can't have that. In the United States of Gitmo Nation, we elect our presidents the same way we buy our soap powder. We'll be advertised to will be marketed and of course the networks will give more time to Mitt Romney please notice that they put him in the middle every single time he was dead center yeah seven people one guy in them is six on either two or sorry three on each side one guy in the middle and what you're gonna see is you'll see hello Mitt Romney will show up I'm Pierce Morgan you know get more airtime this how it

1:01:17 It's very subtle. It's a scam and most most people are stupid comments about 10 shows ago or more, I guess even longer than that. About the fact that all these other guys are actually they're not auditioning for president they're all auditioning for vice-president and Herman Cain is obviously going...I think now because Perry can't carry the load and i think he's so annoying a guy thought to be good balance of the ticket but I am changing my prediction to Herman Cain as vice president Hmm, I don't know. Why? Who do you think? No, I have no idea! I like the Romney-Perry combination... It's very reminiscent of Kennedy Johnson Yes, now if they're not going to go with Perry they'll choose someone else. What is it...? I think Kane would be a better balance because you got that sketchy black vote that is gonna lockstep

1:02:19 into here's the way I have my latest rationale. What do you mean by sketchy black vote? What the hell does that mean? They're just gonna lockstep vote for Obama. Sketchy black, but that is so racist! It's not racist. The sketchy black votes... It's a vote that Republicans can't count on so it's sketchy. There are a lot of sketchy votes. We don't use terminology sketchy I just don't like the word. Sounds weird The point is that with Perry they're guaranteed the evangelical vote but they're gonna get the evangelical vote anyway so they don't need Perry. The black vote is a huge voting block if they could just squeeze of few those guys to vote on the Republican ticket because of Herman Cain it would be worth it I think its the Latino vote that counts everyone that was one of the main questions, seems like thats the big deal by the way I was just reading today that number one

1:03:16 television primetime audience, the most desired prime time audience is young Latinos. They have 69% of the prime time desired audience. 69%. That's who everyone is going after. Well now if that's true, and I will throw this name into the pot not running for president but a potentially great vice presidential candidate is Marco Rubio. I think Marco Rubio is the most presentable guy the Republicans have of all these... Is he Latino? Latino yeah. He's out of Florida extremely erudite uh he's a classic conservative

1:03:56 And he plays well to the Latino audience in Florida. I mean, he could easily become a massive... He can be a vote-getter So what I just want people to understand who are listening to this show for the first time This of course has nothing to do with policy and politics It is all about the show it's 100% about the show it's a ratings bonanza We want a great team in there so we can get more ratings Just ratings, ratings, ratings! It's free content Free They have to spend money on the stupid housewives of Beverly Hills. They're a pain in the ass, you can't manage them jabronis! Free content that's what we want and nothing showed this more about how it works in America than on Morning Joe

1:04:42 Yeah, now Chuck Scarborough who was a politician who he acts like he's like He doesn't know anymore but he knows how it works. Yes Representative from Connecticut I think yes and that Milika is her name Milika the Brzezinski daughter of Brazil Satan Brzezinski She she so she acts so stupid But they're talking about Ron Paul and it just comes out, and it's clear. It's clear shut up slaves is clear So yesterday outside we had the wrong people. Oh yeah accused very nice They're very nice the Ron Paul people there so you know they're cute. They like kittens don't you think John the run Paul be meow?

1:05:24 They're very nice people. Yeah, they had signs... They had signs... They had Starbucks... So sweet! What are they accusing you of? No not me they were accusing the media of blacking out Ron Paul Which leads to a very fascinating question Guys can we throw up the poll really quickly and see where Ron Paul is Just the poll You know those numbers that you put on screen that no one really can account for just throw it up there will ya Mike, why is it that Ron Paul I guess is steady in most polls? 10%, 11% 12%. He's usually in third place in New Hampshire. Here he's in fourth place. He's down at 8%. But they will complain to people like Michelle Bachman, Newt Gingrich others who don't raise as much money as Ron Paul get more attention than Ron Paul. Why is that? Why does Ron Paul receive less attention?

1:06:18 So, what is the true answer? Why does Ron Paul receive less attention? Well the answer is they don't want any attention given to him because he was making good points that people will either allow them to vote for Ron Paul or they're gonna transfer those good points and make their candidate follow these same ideas. He doesn't have a leading role! He was never cast He's an extra. Yeah, he is totally an independent guy. He came in and he is not part of the... Right! He is not part of the uh.. No just call it what it is. It actually a miracle that he even in these things. He is an extra with his speaking part when only benefit as he gets his SAG card. Everyone in America with exception 8 to 11% of most fervent followers and they will always be with him everyone else knows he never going to president of United States. There you go. Meme alert. Everyone knows.

1:07:12 Take a peek at him. Take a peek of what he says, but he's a smart guy He's not good guy. He is so far out of the mainstream This is a mainstream country this is a middle-of-the road country It's not gonna happen for Ron Willie But everyone knows Herman Cain's not gonna be president and he's on the cover of Newsweek Everyone knows Michelle Bachman won't be president everyone knows Sarah Palin wasn't gonna be president Yeah He's done it before. So that, these people are new so there is a novelty to Cain and Bob. That's part of the novelty. It was proven before that he can't get above a certain threshold What does it say about the Republican field that Herman Cain maintains a consistent 24-26%? Everybody knows! He's not a player, he's not on board, he wasn't casted... He's just a walk on.

1:08:02 He doesn't count. He's an extra, you know he gets per diem Go away! The real screw-up is Perry was not a walk on he was cast Well failed sometimes you know sometimes things are miscast look at who knew yeah This guy it happens it happens Wow Yeah, I agree with that. It's sad though because you know the love the meme though alright Everybody in America knows every just look at them. Look at him just look at him He doesn't look right he doesn't have the right thing I remember when I was a kid growing up in Europe people would always there was a big joke about American politicians about the slick hair and the big They would call it the McLean's white smile

1:08:53 Yeah, that's what it is. This is how it works! We are- we invented show business and that's how we roll bitches It's a show To show its to show with the show and we got to have the right people in the show Just like X Factor And by the way I'm pretty good at predicting x factor candidates too It's not always about the best singer but who looks right? Who looks the part? Who's who tugged your heartstrings That's what it's about when it's sad There you go just own up to it You might as well play Herman Cain singing then, we can go out on that. God... If politics doesn't work out for Herman Cain he can always sing turns out he just loves to break into song It's Herman Cain like you've never seen him before! That's hilarious

1:09:50 Oh, no I had-I did have one thing. Bachman! I did have one Bachman clip was just funny Here's the woman who you rea- by the way She...ummm She is like a...you know she is a necessary player in this scheme In a way she's kind of like the Alexis Carrington But she changes roles a little bit She's kinda like the wild card in the script Which is why y'know she dressed up in her white little navy suit or whatever the hell that thing was and she's supposed to come out with crazy stuff. Cutting back on foreign aid is one thing, being reimbursed by nations that we have liberated is another We should look to Iraq and Libya to reimburse us for part of what we have done to liberate these nations Now I need something... We need reimbursement! Look, I have a whole bunch of receipts here, Libya And I'd like to get reimbursed for that

1:10:49 Here's how we'll do it. We'll put the army on the ground, don't worry it's all good It's just a reimbursement! It's okay...it's cool The idiots really really unbelievable idiots Just woah Anderson Pooper Well let's see what we got Before I want a little intermezzo A little lighthearted about Anderson Pooper So Anderson also has this daytime talk show I haven't seen it yet. It's supposed to does it any good? I have no idea You think I am too busy watching C-SPAN, and I don't have time Luckily we have knowage in the news network calm people with an account send me stuff and post stuff up there Here's Anderson on his daytime talk show explaining why his name is Anderson Cooper So my own item so we had a bunch of stuff in in my office my home sent to the lab and

1:11:43 What did we find? Well it was interesting, so you had for instance your glasses your phone Your camera bag and overall it was interesting like for example on the phone they found fecal strep again something that we've been talking about Wait a minute! My beloved cell phone You know all the times I have asked to borrow that Right No more There's fecal strep on my cellphone Why did they let that stuff on the air? Where's he putting that phone anyway and then turn it on vibrate? Fecal strap. It's a new game called Anderson Pooper IED so you get to you know get to set them off via remote. You can yak away while i go tell this person to get lost okay, I don't know what to say. Let's listen to John talk on the phone. I usually just hang up

1:12:45 The power drill? Really? Alright. Here's something that is a little intermezzo while John is talking on the phone. Sorry about that! Listen to this... On November 9th at approximately 2 p.m. Eastern, the Federal Emergency Management Agency will conduct a nationwide test of the emergency alert system it will be heard on radio and seen on local cable and satellite TV As the federal, state, tribal, territorial and local governments prepare for and test their capabilities this event serves as a reminder that everyone should establish an emergency preparedness kit and emergency plan for themselves, their families communities and businesses. Visit FEMA.gov for more information I love that guy!

1:13:23 That voice has been altered. Of course it has! This is an explanation of what FEMA will be... I can't even do it, its so outrageous No because its been run through one of the programs that alters your voice It's just not a real voice But it's going to be a real drill on November 9th for the first time in our nation's history it actually will be everywhere Think you'll even get a text message. I'm not sure who from the president or from Janet Napolitano What's she doing with my number? Yeah, it's the emergency broadcast system FEMA FEMA running it for the first time in the nation's history We will be conducting and tested the emergency broadcasting system That guy should do vagina ads Does your vagina not itch all right? Let's see what else we got

1:14:25 I found the thing with, we had a clip earlier with Geithner interesting. Scott Brown went after him. Who's that? Scott Brown is that male model that became the senator from Massachusetts, that upset the balance of power in the Senate because Democrats had 60 votes and they could have ramrodded anything through. Oh yeah got it They did absolutely nothing with all this power they had and so Massachusetts gave Kennedy's seat to this guy A Republican So there just a little clip This is part of a longer exposition

1:15:01 Geithner's trying to defend the fact that they tried to do these loans to small businesses and into smaller banks, and only one out of ten small banks took them up because it was a disaster. And then they refused everybody the money and wouldn't say why. And Geithner says well because we didn't want to hurt their feelings or we were liable if we said bad things about them so he couldn't tell why they didn't get the loan which is bull crap by the way the government says It's the transparent Obama administration is what that is. Yeah, exactly it was all part of this and then they have a little back-and-forth with Brown but so right in the middle there's this thing where Geithner says I don't know how many times if you were in my shoes if you were in my shoes and I just thought this was amusing. I know I can't say this with confidence If you were in my shoe be want to be very careful that we're using the taxpayers monies carefully in this context

1:15:51 Judging the health of a bank is a complicated judgment. We were not in position to do that, we had to rely on the supervisors to do that. You would have done this thing if you were in my shoes." Now, the fact that not all banks are eligible should be no surprise because again, we're an economy still facing really tough economy coming out of its worst financial crisis since The Great Depression. We have 7000 community banks across the country and a lot of those banks are still under pressure and we're not going to meet the test of eligibility but the reason why you've had a smaller yield than we expected And the reason why this took some time is because we're careful to protect the taxpayers' resources. I know you said that, thank you and with all due respect...I don't think you can guess what i would do if was in your shoes No, no I didn't mean to say it but uh... Because as I travel around my state and the country

1:16:35 contrary to what you said earlier the number one thing that I find yes demands a problem but it's the lack of regulatory and tax certainty for every business in Massachusetts. That is the number one thing going away, this wet blanket over their efforts to create jobs because in the last year we've had 488 sorry last couple months 488 regulations deemed significant by the administration Yeah... Ed what shoe size do think Timmy has? Like 8? If you were in my shoes, they'd be killing ya. Does he have a size eight? I got a size six! Can't be much bigger than that... Well not- He still sounds like a kid in- Like the Leave it to Beaver Show Kid. Timmy! Timmy!!

1:17:20 Meanwhile, of course Landrieu who I actually do like her she's a Democrat from Florida. I think yet no Louisiana She chewed out the Republicans over and over the phraseologies that are being bandied about it And I think this is worth playing because I I'm It is kind of interesting how they use terminology that just to kind of sway the electorate. Sorry, line of questioning has be over I've been very very liberal and given a lot of latitude this hearing is about the small business lending program however this is all important thanks senator Rubio but as a supporter raising surcharge I want to get one thing straight for the record I don't and members of Senate that are supporting... Is she hot?

1:18:08 She's not unattractive, but she's kind of old. No. Putting raising taxes on families or individuals making over a million dollars is not the same Senator as raising taxes on millionaires. Millionaires are people that have $1 million worth of assets many people have a million dollars worth of assets their income is only 100 thousand or 200 thousand or 50 thousand It's not millionaires, it's individuals and families that have income of over a million dollars. So I just want to get that straight for the record and i think its important not to confuse the two because many many Americans are millionaires

1:18:53 Many, and many of them have made their own millions. Contrary to belief they haven't inherited it as you and I know we represent a lot of people who through hard work have assets over $1 million but the proposal one of the proposals is to raise taxes on income over 1 million and the marginal rate at 45% you could argue that but its a portion over the first million. So, the first million they pay a certain rate over a million they would pay a second rate is that your understanding? Yeah I just want to be clear that the millionaire tax is not my terminology it's what I've heard the president say millionaires and billionaires. It's not mine...I didn't make up this quote Well, the President has a different view maybe you have a different view but for those of us supporting the tax the one I'm speaking about its not attacks on millions No, I understand Its actually attacks on family income over a million so I'm going to disagree with you John

1:19:45 I think if she lost about 15 pounds... You didn't even listen to her! Of course, I did. She would be very... She has a very cute smile. Yeah. She has kind of like a V for vendetta smile actually I like her as a congressperson or senator. She's got dimpled cheeks, she does good work. She has dimpled cheeks and she is kind of cute. Okay okay, so she is a hottie in the making? Well...she needs a little work but you know... They all need a little work. You gotta get a consulting business going! Thank you if the Curry Dvorak Consulting Company were on this thing we'd probably help for quite a bit put on a diet. She could be a contender. A personal trainer. She could be a contender. Anyway, the funny thing

1:20:31 Clip the rest of this away because right after she's went on this little Timmy Geithner is going can I talk and I talk? And it was embarrassing ridiculous in fact. They have a Why don't you play that earlier clip of Geithner going on about celebrations. Come on! I think it's kind of ridiculous because we should celebrate what we want to celebrate We shouldn't be told what we shouldn't by other people No, no, we need to celebrate what we want to celebrate That is from Occupy Wall Street By the way, Occupy Kindergarten. The new thing in Occupy Wall Street now of course let me reiterate there and their people are pissed off all over the world this occupy movement really started with the austerity measures in Greece it is spread all over the world the slaves are rising up which by the way is pretty much what the elites want they want unrest it's great that's everyone's playing right into their cards police state yeah police state is perfect

1:21:32 But the new thing in Hollywood is to get arrested as a celebrity. Oh really? Yes, you have to be an Occupy Wall Street arrestee! And who's my other favorite hottie... Feminist author and activist Naomi Wolf is the latest high-profile person to be arrested at the Occupy Wall Street protest which I think she's now being rained on. Naomi Wolf, just anyone should look into this woman She is a very pretty girl but can you imagine having her at a dinner party? Oh! No she would eat all of the dinner Well besides that she would bore everybody Let me set the stage for ya First off she's Canadian So she's at the Huffington Post Party

1:22:13 Where Kim Kardashian received an award for business entrepreneur? Okay, let me just set the stage. This is how serious this business is and She's got her her boobs are just like flowing out She's got a tight dress on which I like I'd like to wear a shitter wolf both but in this case it's Wolf and And she's Rubenesque, and she is very very sexy. Very appealing to me I like her very much Wait a minute let's get ten... Mickey is gonna come in eight seven So she's cute You watch I find her so annoying No no no She needs gaffer tape on her spokes hole

1:22:59 So her whole thing, she goes out and she purposely gets arrested. And then she uses some interesting words which is sexy words Very sexy words and she did this completely for her own benefit. And now she's the superstar of Occupy Wall Street, and she's pretending to be like a lawyer and she studied the protest laws. Northeasters sweeping the area. Now is woman taken into custody last night author Naomi Wolf also Josh Harkinson of Mother Jones magazine thank you both for joining us. Thank you for having me. Naomi let's go ahead start with you I was there last night at The Huffington Post party

1:23:38 I was watching the protests and they seemed peaceful. But you were taken into arrest, what happened? Well i was arrested while I was complying with the law and peacefully standing on a sidewalk very briefly I studied protest and permits in New York City John have you not taken your course on protest and permits in New York City have you studied that lately no you know I'm remiss So I understood that they had a right to be on the sidewalk peacefully. When I came out of the Huffington Post event where I'd been a guest, I write for the Huffington Post... I write for The Huffington Post you can see me there at huffingtonpost.com and from Mother Jones motherjones.com I saw that the police have moved them far away from the entrance to the opposite side went and asked them why? And they said they were told they had no right to march where they had been. I knew that wasn't correct

1:24:29 So I checked with the people in charge. They said the permit actually did allow them to walk without obstructing the sidewalk, so I said okay everyone I'm gonna walk with my partner Avram Ludwig and anyone who wants to walk with us please join us we have a right to it's her partners Let me just point out its partner not boyfriend that's your mendrick Partner yeah Mendrick whenever you go walking peacefully back and forth not obstructing anything and suddenly a phalanx of like a phalanx I love that word! A phalanx? Isn't a phalanx like a Roman formation of like couple hundred people? Well, it was a phalax. It's great word because it sounds like phallus. It has the whole sexy thing to it. To you. Phalanx is like a wall of police I think.

1:25:16 Say it's a great word here. Let me get up phalanx formation. Yeah, she said phalanx a lanks as ancient Greek yeah It's a rectangular mass military formation composed of heavy infantry armed with spears pikes and syringes or similar ranges Syringes what's the sericea? Okay now you're making me go off the track your is a Sarissa is a 47 meter long spear. It's a 21 foot long spear used in ancient Greece so I guess they had spears. Stop pointing your spear at me copper! Don't don't spear me bro! Anyway, I don't think it was a phalanx 30 or 40

1:26:04 Giant men in white shirts apparently with the NYPD Appeared and stopped in front of me and one of them used a megaphone which the protesters have been told citizens are not allowed You can't use a megaphone Yeah, it just goes on and on And I'm sorry. You know, I read her book. I liked her shock doctrine book I've seen her I've seen her speeches and then I think she's on the money with a lot of things but this to Me was a blatant promotional move on her. Publicity stunt! Total publicity stunt, you look at the video she was very calm she walks up and the cops say would you please move

1:26:41 And she's no, I have every right to be here. Well you know okay you're gonna get arrested it was like and by the way illegal arrest i completely agree but she did it completely for publicity and she's at the Huffington Post party as the award ceremony where they're honoring Kim Kardashian please that gives me a really telling the fact that she this great left-wing thought from Thoughtmeister is at that party of that sort. Am I talking about the wrong... people are yelling at me in the... She's not Naomi, am i wrong? Who was Naomi Klein? Now I'm confused. Naomi Klein is the other one Well wait a minute who was the shock doctrine That's Naomi Klein Well who is this one then

1:27:25 Well, let's find out. I was confused too. Oh now i'm confused okay so She's an American author political consultant oh this one oh this is a different one yeah This girl is a lot prettier than Naomi Klein. This is um wolf hmm she is a political consultant she's the one who did the beauty myth book I read that one too! I love that book That was a great book. She's an author of the lesbian community, I can see why you're attracted to her. Her follower is the Roman born horror scholar Leonard Woolf she attended Lowell High School which i guess is in San Francisco Well, you know what then I'm happy. I'm happy I was wrong because the only female in the no I'm having some happens well She's in skull and bones just kidding now. I'm happy I was I was upset for a second there Okay, well good yeah You know Naomi Klein Naomi wolf they how many Naomi brothers do we Naomi Campbell? I I was seriously I was also off to okay all right apologize Thank you. Thank you character self on the show on the show thank you chat room for correcting me okay So that's even better

1:28:30 It proves my point. This is a celebrity bonanza, go out and get arrested it's like you know next you'll be oh could you please give me uh a GPS ankle bracelet because that's really all the hottest bridge I really want one of those this is what it is You will see more and more celebrities getting arrested out of solidarity for Occupy Wall Street. It is the new then...it's the new black. This woman's dangerous In 2004, Wolfe wrote an article in New York Magazine accusing acclaimed literary scholar Harold Bloom of sexual harassment more than two decades earlier. Explaining why she had finally gone public with the charges, Wolfe wrote I began nearly a year ago to try privately to start a conversation with my alma mater that would reassure me that steps had been taken in the ensuing years to ensure that unwanted sexual advances of this sort weren't still occurring

1:29:23 Anyway, it's the new thing. It is a hostile woman right but she's I like her you know in a sexual manner well But this is the thing you would be allowed to watch with that. I want all the Naomi's I want all the Naomis having a Threesome on them Naomi Klein Naomi Wolf and Naomi Campbell yeah, but regardless Be on the lookout for more celebrities getting arrested And why was she at this event? It's the same thing. Well of course she was at the event! Kim Kardashian... Now, now she is going to extol the virtues of Kim Kardashian as a great entrepreneur? Business leader. Give me a break. It's great I loved it. I thought it was fantastic. Great way to go who will be next

1:30:20 Alright, well... So the most emailed article of the week without a doubt is this story. Basically House Bill 195 says those who buy and sell second-hand goods cannot use cash in those transactions and it flew so far under the radar that most businesses don't even know about it We're gonna lose a lot of business we don't want this cash transaction to be taken away from us I mean, it's an everyday transaction. Danny Guidry owns the Pioneer Trading Post in Lafayette He deals in buying and selling unique second-hand items. I think everyone in this business once they find out about it They're gonna definitely be there's going to be a lot of uproar The law states those who buy or sell second hand goods are prohibited from using cash State Representative Ricky Hardy coauthored the bill They give a check by a cashiers money order

1:31:11 or electronic. One of those three mechanisms is used." Hardy says the bill is targeted at criminals who steal anything from copper to televisions and sell them for a quick buck So the whole idea here behind this law and this is uh... by the way that law it's totally illegal. And it's amended to the Louisiana Constitution It doesn't help because if you read, pull out one of your Federal Reserve notes and read what it says on there. It says legal tender useful for any debt obligation blah blah blah you know, own as a with the backing of the US government. You can't say you can't use that to pay something! You can pay your mortgage and go to the bank and drop three couple thousand dollars... A few hundred I don't care what it is. You can buy anything you want with cash that's the way they it's its its a national internet or sorry federal law so I think there's something else behind this

1:32:10 Because I of course, I read the bill and there's a copy of it in the show notes at 349.nashownotes.com Louisiana HB 1-9-5 First of all, well let me just read this to you and tell me what you think. Secondhand dealer defined a every person in the state engaged in the business of buying selling trading or otherwise acquiring or disposing of junk says junk? It says junk in the bill! Or used or second-hand property including but not limited too now this is where it gets interesting because they didn't really explain this in the report jewelry

1:32:48 Silverware, diamonds, precious metals, ferrous metals, catalytic converters, auto hulks, copper, copper wire, copper alloy bronze sink, aluminium other than in the form of cans stainless steel nickel alloys or brass whether in the form of bars Cable, ingots, rods tubing wire, wire scraps clamps or connectors railroad track material water utility materials or furniture and it goes on and on. So this is also about gold and silver so that's one thing I picked up on that no-one is mentioning And they define what a second hand dealer is

1:33:29 It is anyone other than a non-profit entity who buys, sells trades in or otherwise acquires or disposes of junk or used or secondhand property more frequently than once per month from any other person other than a nonprofit entity shall be deemed as being engaged in the business of a second hand dealer. There goes your Craigslist, I guess. There goes your eBay... there goes everything! Everything!! Yeah well this will get thrown into the court system and that'll be the end of it Well but it's in right now It's like a chicken- I mean this is like the

1:34:12 Ridiculous. Well yeah, of course it's ridiculous and here is what you need to do What did you just do? Who me? You cranked... Oh I know what it is Yeah the sound just tripled So here is what you have to adhere too If you sell some junk to someone if your selling a junk You have to get the name and address, and the residence or place of business of the person...of the purchaser. The date in sale, the name and address from whom material was purchased. Wait a minute hold on a second! The idea if you listen to this guy's speech is that people are stealing copper and selling it to junk dealers

1:34:48 But this is making it so that the guy who's selling the copper to the junk dealer has to make sure that the junk dealer gives you his name and address. Wait a minute, we made it backwards! It even states... Specifically that if you don't have this information Failure to maintain the information or the register or to produce a report requested by any peace officer Or law enforcement official who now apparently are judge and jury as required by this section shall be prima facie evidence That the person receiving such material described in this section and not registered is known to be stolen

1:35:30 So if you don't have it, then it was stolen. Eh brother... Whoever violates this section shall be fined not less than $1,000 or imprisoned for not less than 30 days nor more than 6 months or both. Junk. They don't really- That's my junk! Hey man Don't sell my junk bro Is there a definition for junk? Is there an actual uh Well let's look up The Book of Knowledge Mmm lets do that Help this out with Naomi Campbell or area was junk junk fine junk wiki Jones hit the Wikipedia's get something informal old or discarded articles that are considered useless or of little value well That's not what they're talking about it doesn't make sense. Oh, yeah, but he's all junk if it's a little value Yeah

1:36:24 Heroin is also junk. Oh, hey you can't sell junk ah heroin gotcha uh-huh It's about the heroine and conveniently heroin what I'm a heroine no I had a heroine clip too Oh, you do? Yeah. I just have Obama stumbling over his lines when he had to discuss the phony baloney attempt by... By the way this has fallen off the radar this Iranian attempt to blow up the Saudi embassy Well no of course we got Gaddafi We killed him so forget about it You had to change the subject because that wasn't going over and nobody was believing No secret message Did you ever hear Obama when he tried to discuss this? I guess were gonna here it now

1:37:10 We believe that if even if at the highest levels there was not detailed operational knowledge, there has to be accountability with respect to anybody in the Iranian government engaging in this kind of activity. Yeah whatever what and that died? What yeah it hey you know this is not working what can we do uh we need to spice up a bit hey You still got that crazy footage? Yeah, yeah man. Let's just say Gaddafi is dead. Yeah good idea

1:37:46 like that. It's a good one. Now here was my... By the way, I forgot to mention this earlier but remember the early in this crazy Libyan thing where they had one kid after another dead and then he shows up the next day saying hey i'm not dead? Well we're waiting for that by the time this should... I wonder if Gaddafi is actually dead well of course but this is the hard thing about a podcast by the time this is out on people's iPhones and Androids and stuff We may already have Gaddafi posting YouTube videos saying, hey I'm not dead. And who knows? Who knows that's why everyone is kind of hedging their bets Here is my heroin clip President Obama himself a former pot smoker whose academic and professional achievement was obviously unhindered by the occasional high appointed Michelle Leonhardt as his head of the Drug Enforcement Administration

1:38:38 The Obama administration, in the person of the head of DEA has insisted that marijuana remain classified a schedule 1 drug which means the Obama administration officially considers marijuana to be just as dangerous as heroin. Yay! And it's been five weeks on the Your voice, the we the people on the whitehouse.gov and number one at the top How come we can't legalize marijuana? And the president promised promise promise promise He also promised they were gonna stop cracking down on this California operations that have medical marijuana distributed Oh it's gotten even worse here did you hear about the latest

1:39:23 Oh yeah, if it wasn't the plant. Well check this! neighbors in today's raids never suspected a thing. It is pretty amazing that can go on right next door and no one has a clue about it really. Growing mushrooms! And of course this is the take off of the clip that went around which seems to be planted on YouTube with the guy freaking out over mushrooms you see that? No. I think the thing is staged

1:40:12 But he's a, it's look up Silas Mushroom... Freakout? Crazy YouTube. You can find it in there somewhere So I didn't our magic mushrooms illegal Yeah Why Because they're magic Oh okay Just want to make sure I understood because they're magic Uhh..I don't see it I don't see any, nothing viral in my world. It was on, it went around and got a lot of attention So there's a new thing we're watching Korean television Are you looking for advertising opportunities for our slave t-shirts? Yes

1:40:57 Watching Korean and this crazy commercial shows up, and I didn't realize now in Asia the great tea drinking cultures of the world which is one of the finest beverages imaginable. They're trying to push coffee down their throats and now they've come out with a new solution or one of the new uses for coffee and we should be paying attention to this Okay. Did you know that the latest weight loss trend might be as easy as a cup of coffee in the morning? It has been found that coffee is the most reasonable, healthy and advanced way to lose weight This is why Fashion Coffee is the perfect product for you Are you still worrying about your weight and health? Fashion Coffee is the answer! Witness the power of the drink and stay healthy every day You know what's amazing is after I ate those magic mushrooms before the show all of sudden I can understand Korean

1:41:47 It's just fantastic how that works. Yeah, this is a whole there's a whole thing going on with coffee We played know yeah Well we played the clip on the last show where global warming is going to make coffee so expensive Everyone's talking about the coffee the coffee so clearly and there's commodity traders working on the coffee And it's it's a pump. It's a pump and dump I think that you need to get in touch I get people isn't that wasn't that the definition? Yeah, we need to get people all crazy about coffee. You can lose weight It's great for you. I heard some other things about it's great for women for something there was what was that? Hold on coffee Healthy for women I think watch I'm consulting The Book of Knowledge There was an as all kinds of stories

1:42:34 health benefits of coffee, the perks of coffee drinks. Oh yeah! Coffee drinking linked to less depression in women." It's like really? So... But it makes them snap at you. Yeah meanwhile I know you're right is a pump and dump is exactly what it is speaking of funny would come up as a weight loss only one that I mean the bottom fat people that drink coffee is outrageous so you can say coke is weight loss because makes poop I'm reliably informed. Now we have a clip here that you sent me. Yeah, yeah...I wanted to play this clip. I had uh...a person come up to me on the uh... at the twit broadcast Gary Blatt

1:43:35 and his wife Amy. Now, I believe... And he gave me a...I'll just credit him now He gave me $66 in cash Gary has donated before, I believe Sorry? No, he was mentioned last week as a nightcap Right okay well there you go There ya'go see I knew it And came up to me and gave me $66 with the comment He said here's $66 in cash because I understand Adam got $60 in cash at the restaurant and I wanted to top it Oh my goodness. Okay, I'm thinking okay you owe me three bucks Dvorak Okay So i'm just saying anybody out there runs into us You know you can be mentioned on this on this kind of thing but anyway Amy went on with a uh A claim that we had given her karma in show 333 and she was just raving about it And I you know We don't make any the karma thing is kind of

1:44:30 We don't sell it as like a premium item. But it seems to help people and I don't know what the deal is whatever the case, we should play this clip So on show 334 you gave me karma and it has overflowed in my life I've had published books and articles And he just became a knight Today's his birthday and were so privileged to meet you so thank you very much Wait a minute You didn't give him magic mushrooms after he gave you the $66. That is really, I have to say it's beautiful and i hope Leo saw it did Leo see that happen? No no he was busy regaling the people with his fez. Busy reading a carbonite ad

1:45:13 Well, that is the beauty of this show and it is fantastic. I love it! I love the fact that we can say anything we want on this program as ludicrous sometimes as may sound and strangely enough a lot of our ludicrous outlandish statements come true We have a red prediction book. We do a lot of work, we watch a lot of crazy stuff... ...we pull things apart for you and we do it the way we want to do it and the way you want us to do it because you are paying for the product! It's a beautiful system. Yeah, this is direct connection And we appreciate the help that we get, by the way. So for starters today we have Christian Herzog, Elwood Illinois 12372 I'm in for $111 for their 1111 show We do have this new... we didn't realize until one of our producers sent a note

1:46:05 111 is a magic number. Yeah, so that's what we sent out of mailing I hope people got it discussing this plus an extra 1261 to put me precisely 50% of the way tonight hood surprises on him because he also wants a karma shot for his wife who's looking for career change you give them that But future knight Zogg, as he likes to call himself doesn't realize that he came in right after von Pelsmacher's with his free knighthood to the next person who gave a reasonable amount of money. So he wins! He wins so now he is already a knight I love it

1:46:42 Good job. We hope that he continues to contribute those since he was on his way to buying a knighthood. Good! So anyway, congratulations Bob Appleby at Greensburg Pennsylvania 11111 we have a bunch of those in this today because we sent out the mailing Colin Sloman London London? London. He's in London City in London $110.11 David Stewart Seattle Washington one-one francine hardaway adam dame francine hard away in phoenix under eleven dollars eleven cents greg bircher black knight greg up there a dentist in port angeles washington

1:47:19 Chris provided the two of us with great, by the way that toothbrush. The new sonic toothbrush I have the old one. Yeah i had the old one to interesting. The new one is more powerful and you notice it go back to the old one no no no i know it's more powerful i also like that it has multi uh settings that has a readout yeah which is nice i love the case that you can plug the case in so you can charge it on the road which was a big problem with the previous model But it actually, I read the instructions believe it or not. After like the first five or ten times you use it then increases in power for newbies

1:47:58 Because it is a weird feeling, the sonic toothbrush. Yeah this thing really kicks it I mean that's like amazing yeah anyway good now he's got an interesting note he says in celebration and he gave one 1111 uh in celebration of our locals kicking iclei agenda 21 out of our county yeah and this is interesting tidbit and saving the county twelve hundred dollars a year in dues apparently you have to join some club Yeah, I looked up the article that he referenced and it was pretty good actually. This is one of these initiatives from the administration which essentially is helping to manage rural communities

1:48:45 yeah screw the rural communities is what it should say agenda twenty one that's something you have to consult the book of knowledge on and i will put a link to that uh... gizette article and he's got another hand eleven dollars for his knighthood of sb of michael birch son of sir black night he loves it scones off that man and a podcast license for the cooper stripes podcast nice judge f wolfers in london again other londoner under limit was eleven cents said Marasaki8? Really? Now, Marasaki8 here. But I give special permission to use my first name Jennifer as well Here's a small contribution in hopes of some karma for my university exam on Friday the 20th of October Here's hoping more donations come rolling and PS love listening to the bad pronunciation of Australian towns I hope that she's not a day late because Friday is the 21st Today is the 20th, I believe

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1:55:47 And something else? Melons. We should do melons, okay. Texas? Texas melons! The Texas state bird is a melon. We have a couple of extra little mentions here First of all some this was a nice one. This is from Jason Baker My wife's car was stolen last night from our garage the insurance is trying to screw us around We may be out $33,000 we paid for the car Wow wow what kind of goes that Beamer?

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1:55:47 And something else? Melons. We should do melons, okay. Texas? Texas melons! The Texas state bird is a melon. We have a couple of extra little mentions here First of all some this was a nice one. This is from Jason Baker My wife's car was stolen last night from our garage the insurance is trying to screw us around We may be out $33,000 we paid for the car Wow wow what kind of goes that Beamer?

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1:58:05 It's your birthday, birthday On NOA Agenda Very quick list for today. Glenn Riccio congratulates his daughter Sarah who turned 18 on the 18th and Gary Blatt says happy birthday to himself His birthday was last Sunday on the 16th Happy Birthday! Remember from time-to-time you actually will get a physical card in the mail Just another part of the service here from your buddies at The NOA Agenda Show It's your birthday yeah And we have a couple, we have two knights which is very nice. Let me just extract my blade here. Wait wait I left it in the drawer. Oh there it is! Got it? Yeah. Perfect okay Dean Bertram and surprise Christian Herzog who has received his knighthood from Baron Stefan Pelsmacher's

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1:59:48 So they can't make the rent. But this will be happening here shortly? Well, Portugal started how many months before we really started messing around here in the States like half a year? You mean talking about the collapse of their economy or what? Well whatever we want to pinpoint is the beginning of crap I don't know so but you said that the increase in hookers in United States would be around 2015 I think it's coming earlier John We're a little slow on the draw with this stuff. I mean you can say that and i'm sure there will be some indicators but by 2015 it should be, that's when it'll be in full swing

2:00:29 That's when you'll be noticing. That's when the comedians will be doing jokes about it, there'll be so many hookers Yeah but it's not that funny The decision to sell one's body cannot be taken lightly It says of course But for many mothers the alternative is to condemn their children to hunger which is why increasing numbers of women in their 30s who are victims of the crisis are resorting to prostitution It's like bittersweet news. I'm not quite sure how I feel about that. Geez, you're terrible! You know what? You know what I mean well... So there was a report that showed up in the BBC yesterday But it was already in the States. You must have seen this. I'll read to the BBC and then I'll read you the US headlines Vitamins linked with higher death risk an older women

2:01:19 When it comes to vitamins, it appears you could have too much of a good thing say researchers who report a link between their use and higher death rates amongst older women. Ah. Experts have suspected for some time that supplements may only be beneficial if the person is deficient in nutrients and so whenever there's research... You gotta be careful. This was propagated throughout the United States, USA Today. Vitamin study! Vitamins may increase death risk in older women. Time Magazine We've been wasting a ton of money on vitamins and dietary supplements MSNBC Some common vitamin supplements could increase death risk LA Times Dietary supplement risky for older women Study finds I can go on and on and on So this study... Was very interesting study

2:02:10 I really, really liked it because it was a survey study. Over 18 years time they asked 38 thousand older women to email what they recall which vitamins and minerals they were taking Do you like this study already? Yeah, it's really bad. And so they basically said hey do you remember what you were taken and are you dead I guess...I'm not quite sure how that you know all emails that weren't delivered apparently those women were dead and therefore is no good the study was released in well what is this uh what is the name of this thing it's another one of those big pharma sponsored websites

2:03:00 that has advertising in the Arctic, the archives of internal medicine. And if you go to their website it has pharmaceutical ads all over it and um... It's so outlandish this study and clearly a part of what we've been following The Codex Alimentarius and the outlawing of uh... You know? And it is all debatable But the outline... Go ahead. No, go ahead! This is a move to get.. there's two things afoot One is to get all these supplement shops and these people that sell natural

2:03:36 herbs and which is illegal now in many countries in Europe. It's to get rid of all those things that throughout the US, which a lot of my doctor for example often recommends some sort of herbal thing or something like that but you know now we want that'll be illegal it has to go through a pharmacy you know or pharmaceutical company And then the other thing is to slowly ban and get rid of the organic subculture, with small farmers people who do organic farming on a small level. People who grow melons! Yeah people like you who grow melons there's actually talk about making it illegal to garden in your own backyard Oh yeah It has been discussed Well you'll have to have an... Because you can't trust anybody they're all idiots You'll have to have an organic growth license

2:04:25 Yeah, absolutely. So another thing about this study and this just shows you how news is made And I haven't what I was not able to uncover and that's kind of hard maybe Lois can help us I want to know which PR company propagated this study because they did a good job and everyone You know picked up on it immediately But they did stuff with the numbers which is really interesting in the study It says they adjusted all numbers for so that means they change the numbers Quote age education level place of residence diabetes mellitus high blood pressure body mass index waist to hip ratio hormone replacement therapy physical activity smoking status and intake of energy So this is totally bogus. I mean basically just wrote some stuff down after some they asked a couple Women some questions through email what they remembered in the past 30 years

2:05:21 Yet it's played off in the media and who are the ones advertising? What are the biggest advertisers? Let me think, let me think. Oh drug companies! Yes big pharmaceutical companies and they play it off as you shouldn't take these because is going to kill you that's really bad so be aware of studies Masking is news. Yeah, it's one of the PR companies that represents one of the big pharma companies I'm absolutely sure of it now I have a commercial that I'd love to play this commercial for you And I want when you it's a long commercial but when you know what the commercial is about I'll stop okay

2:06:07 This this is obviously a setup that it's gonna be something so obscure. I won't get out of the very end Scientology Our shadows are inseparable The Twilight Trilogy Even when we feel miles apart. The San Francisco Symphony! In your eyes, I can seem so simple... Uncle Ben's Rice! Close! At times I am your charm. Ah, Paps Blue Ribbon

2:07:02 Close preparation age Getting warmer. I can make you proud or embarrassed. Viagra! Ooh, getting very close! At times I am tender... sweet at times I am wild. Good vibration storm. No! The movie avatar! No, you're getting cold now. And the pains that life brings us... Goodyear tires! Very close very close but no You didn't hear the last bit I am your little V

2:08:06 It's a vagina commercial, John. From Johnson & Johnson! They're selling vaginas? Holy crap! What do they go for?! It's starting... This is the Johnson and Johnson little V And it is the diary of a vagina Which uh- WHAT!? Yeah oh yeah it's the diary of- That's why didn't you hear saying at times I can be sweet At times I'm ferocious Uhh..I could be beautiful Does he got teeth?? Some of them apparently There's alot we don't know about the vagina Clearly And this is just another part of the move towards feminine hygiene products being marketed to the certainly American public. Never were they allowed to say vagina, oh boy we can't say vagina on the air and now all the comedy shows are using the words so that we can start getting these commercials While this font is often mistaken for Helvetica The fact is it's Helvetica Bold

2:09:05 I can actually hear the sound of her vagina being boarded up. Those writers! It's so great, yeah the comedic value of vagina is awesome No it's so that Johnson & Johnson... why don't they just be honest about it? I don't know why these guys feel obliged to throw in the word gratuitously into their scripts. It's stupid." Even America- And it's not funny! No, it's not! I mean you've said it every time you bring one of these gags up they're not funny. It's not! American Dad did one too Yeah well that would make sense... Yeah but still now we've got animated vagina jokes. It just gets worse. Animated Vagina Jokes? Check it out! I go full blueprints for our house for my project The Junior Architect Society isn't gonna know what hit them

2:10:02 Are you allergic to vagina, Steve? Boy that's hilarious! There was actually a funny sex ad that someone sent me. This one... Go to 60minutesovertime.com for a virtual journey through the paintings of Vincent van Gogh sponsored by Viagra Guys have no shame. They have no shame Sponsored by Viagra may cause anal leakage Really? So, um the only other news I have that's kind of interesting Well actually i have a couple clips but I can't get to my clips now because My email cloud service dropped dead right in the middle of the show Wait you're using the cloud

2:10:50 That's where my mail is kept, yeah. I might go to the other computer and see what i sent you but it's... WTF man cave? Oh that's an interesting story this was a A story that I was looking for something to do one of those extra or you know, one of these things that wraps up all the celebrity news but there was nothing worth doing because it was all depressing because of that car racer who died. Oh yeah like i love it when we uh really have to change the rules of racing because someone died Yeah, well they do die. But this was kind of a throwaway and when they did it I said this has been going on for years...I have never heard of it You tell me if you've heard of it we haven't talked about it I haven't seen any reports about it

2:11:37 And the speculation has gone wild online over just what exactly is being built on the White House North Lawn. Instruction crews have been digging a massive mystery hole right by the West Wing for at least a year and half, with White House officials saying they can't reveal what it is because of national security many people are left to guess perhaps new underground bunker giant swimming pool or outdoor bowling alley but perhaps a top-secret presidential man cave Yeah. You know about this? I saw a report, it's not supposed to be done for like three years or something. It's the big dig they're calling it now What could it possibly be? Why is such as secret with our transparent... once its finished someone will know what it is and why don't you just tell us in advance Its not like you can aim your hellfire at the patch of grass

2:12:29 I don't know. They're not talking about it, but I still think swimming pool is the one. I think underground swimming pools... Three years in the making! Yeah well you know that's what Gabrielle Giffords will need when she's president She'll need a swimming pool It's forthcoming I have another clip that's worth listening to. Alright, because we do have our Australian news that we like to get people done under. Oh yeah! I didn't have a clip of this i did have the news and it was interesting to me as well which is slightly depressing. Yeah let's go with so popular person she may be but what about the overall concept for British monarch

2:13:08 being the head of state of Australia. What do Australians make of that? It sounds like an anachronism in the 21st century and that's what Republicans say it is, it shouldn't continue we're a brave confident irreverent upstanding country of our own now and we don't need a head of state who lives 12 000 miles away but Those voices are very much in the minority. A recent poll here had the people in favour of the monarchy at 55% and those favouring a republic down to 34%. And that's lowest figure for Republicans in 23 years a long way from their high watermark in 1999 when there was a referendum here and they came within shouting distance of winning the day. But those days have certainly gone into retreat, they're not as spent forth by any means and they say that much of popularity of the monarch is down to the Queen herself and what will happen when the Queen's reign is over? One Republican said to me the other day how would Australians view a Queen Camilla

2:14:09 Prince Charles's wife. They say if that were to pass then popularity of the monarchy would take a dip here, but the monarchists say no it is not just the Queen herself that is proving popular its the institution itself and also what's coming in the future The lizard queen visits her property Let me see what's going on? Yeah they had you know they had a referendum in 1999 yeah they almost ousted the queen well...not almost it didn't work They didn't want him. Although there was a lot of stories about how Julia Gillard didn't curtsy... I think Gillard is the reason that this is in this situation, they say we can't trust our own prime- lying Prime Minister like this woman who promises blatantly makes promises and then contradict yourself when she's elected She lies to the electorate

2:14:57 The Queen doesn't do that. She didn't rise. Well, she didn't curtsy. She bowed and shook the Queen's hand. And there is a question... Oh it was a big scandal? Yeah, oh yeah. She didn't curtsy! When I met the Queen I curtsied. I bet you did. I court a by the way do you think maybe Obama's dig project? Maybe that's where he's gonna put Osama bin Laden's body and Qaddafi's body. Maybe it's gonna be just a museum of the dead guys He killed yeah, like a tomb Tomb of the... Yeah, it's like Lenin's tomb in Russia. Tomb of the dead guys. They have them keep them frozen There was something else in Australia speaking of crazy and this is you know in England they have the D-notice which is sent out to The media and it's like okay here's something you can't talk about And of course everyone goes oh okay Which is unbelievable to me? You know because a d notice can be put on anything potentially In Australia

2:15:57 The leading media organizations rejected a proposal from the federal government for a protocol to limit reporting of sensitive law enforcement and security information. Good! However, they have agreed to facilitate communication with police and security agencies in the interest of public safety." In other words we won't actually admit it but were going do it anyway So John you and I have to be extra vigilant. I would think for our we have to be anyway, our Australian brothers and sisters who are now going to get all the lies and the push towards them more than it is and of course the information withheld did you in Horowitz talk at all about Bank of America moving their derivatives

2:16:52 off of their balance sheet? No. So let me see if I can explain it because this is, you know...I'm a disc jockey It's called bookkeeping creative bookkeeping Right unfortunately it's put on our shoulders here's how it works Bank of America, this from Bloomberg Bank of America Corp hit by credit downgrade last month has moved derivatives from its Merrill Lynch unit to a subsidiary flush with insured deposits The Federal Reserve and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp, FDIC disagree over transfers which are being requested by counterparties. So they put 75 trillion dollars of derivatives into an account that from what I understand is insured by the government, by the FDIC so they have these deposits

2:17:51 That's I presume a Port and I really don't understand this stuff too. Well, but I presume a portion of the deposits are Guarantee these you know the the total value of these Derivatives which is just like made-up stuff and should it go bankrupt? Should these derivatives start to unwind and who knows it could be Europe It could be French bank derivatives for all I know credit default swaps If that goes belly up, it's in an institution that then the government has to guarantee. The Fed of course is all for it they approve this as good place to put it boys I don't know okay sounds like a scam yeah well not really being reported on and this from the New York Fed and this is something we just need touch on because we've talked about so many times official news now

2:18:48 That student loan debt in the United States has now surpassed one trillion dollars. That is more than the total amount held by all credit cards in America." Right, and it's... law was passed that bankruptcy will not absolve one of the debt By the way you won't be absolved your credit card debt either by bankruptcy so in other words bankruptcy in this country has been gutted for the purposes of keeping the banks in business But that's pretty outrageous, one trillion dollars of student loan debt. A lot of this never get repaid it's just it's almost like a essentially it's kind of more professional and more polished payday loan where people have taken out this money if they failed to make one payment then the interest rates gets jacked up and there is guy with baseball bat coming in your door to make sure you give your pay a little bit and its a big deal something has got be done about this corrupt

2:19:44 Christina's friends all have huge debt and it is a real problem because they can't really find a job. So what they do is go to community college, they do anything they can to keep their student status and you have to do a certain number of hours I think to be officially called a student. And then of course there are working all kinds of side jobs which no taxes are paid over And it's ruining everything and that but they're really afraid because it's not just like oh, you know I had a small small small student loan or assistance. Of course. I went to college for three months So now didn't use up much of that But you know this is such big money and they had there on a schedule

2:20:28 You know, when you get out and you get a letter from the government who is now providing these loans. And they say okay in this year the first year you got to pay back at 500 bucks a month... The government's not provide.. I'm not sure but i think the government's enforcing the loans as opposed to providing them. I thought President Obama um... Okay I could be wrong too but I'm pretty well all I know there's a scam involved it's not good say the least. Oh! Yeah? Wow, that puts it right in our strike zone. Yeah prisoners we have slaves. Screw you Mexicans get out of here we got prisoners unless you want to be a prisoner Hey yeah it's not bad actually being your prisoner It's in your...it makes an extra dime What do they get again like five cents an hour is that what they're getting? This great prison labor they were always complaining the Chinese use all this prison labor it was fantastic

2:21:45 And then we always point the finger at the Chinese hate that by the way you having to finger pointed at them for using prison labor because they know that We have where are the prison labor country? Oh, yeah. No it's great Libya this is someone who you know we were talking about Why max being in Libya yeah right last show right so if it's true in May 2008. Having got Wimax here, what's it doing in Libya? Yeah well this is the dichotomy you know it was like you see on television a bunch of camel jockeys running around shooting their AK-47s on their sandals and driving this big Mardi Gras float like oh they're so stupid you know and Gaddafi kept them dumb and sand bunnies but no

2:22:34 They had YMAX since 2008 they've had YMAX. Huh! In, uh... Let me see. Tripoli and other major cities in Libya How come we can't get YMAX? We're not- uhh.. I don't know. Makes no sense. We have it in Portland Yeah, but you don't have it in Los Angeles One of the many reasons why I'm leaving They don't have it in Austin either that I know of. No, they don't. You know, I thought I had Time Warner in Austin? I think is wrong. I think I have Cox which is probably gonna suck. Cox?! I think so! I do not think Time Warner's in Austin. I've no idea who was an Austin. Cox sucks!! Yeah, I know Hey there's a bumper sticker for you. Cox sucks. And then here's the final question for you before we leave

2:23:28 What is the number one country who has sold weapons to Bahrain Libya Egypt Syria and Yemen since 2005 well that should be us No, then it would have to be Israel. No Russia you're never gonna guess Belgium France Belgium Oh, uh-huh. We should ask the Baron about that I think maybe better we not ask Because you know Belgium yeah Belgium They're the number one arms exporter of course a they don't make it It's all being you know middlemen Yeah being funneled this is the country that has no government Everything's being funneled where did she get this piece of information? The Baron sent it to me he sent from the from the standard the Belgian Standard and

2:24:20 It's a Dutch article. That is little known fact! Yeah, Belgium the country that has no government that does everything that Brussels wants them to do it's perfect its bonanza there its nothing but great stuff going on Interesting I don't know what to make of that I mean if arms are made here and there... I think you're right this just a middle man. They have sales office But there probably lot of sketchy arms deals we can't do directly you know they have to be done. Send it through the Baron So he sent it through Belgium and then the Belgians do whatever they want and we kind of go, well I didn't know that were doing that! I think from now on we just credit Stephen Pelsmacher with international arms dealer Baron von Pelsmachers What do you think? Probably a moniker he doesn't need Alright one final clip that I've been holding onto this was...this baffled me

2:25:17 But I'd like us to listen to it as our final clip. It's not a, I can't do it as an end of show clip because we have to respond This is this girl Imogen which is a hot name? It's a British name and Imogen is on I think they're like a Dylan Rattigan show Which was at MSNBC And she goes into a rant about drones. And she's really, I mean it's almost like I wrote the script for her and as she gets towards the end of her rant She starts to stumble because I think something is... First off all they go from having all kinds of cute pictures of drones and stuff Then that literally the screen goes away in the background It's just blue

2:26:00 And then so they're back to a tight shot of her. She starts to stumble like something is happening or someone is speaking in her ear and then they cut her off for the MSNBC went off the air for 12 seconds So I think she went a little too close. Have a listen. We need to have a proper international debate and make a collective decision about the rules of engagement of armed drones right now or we are in danger of our world looking like a James Cameron Terminator movie Armed drones are remote-controlled, pilotless aerial vehicles that are able to hit targets of interest including killing individuals. So far only the UK Israel and America are known to have deployed them although the US leads the way by far The first strike by an armed drone took place in Pakistan in 2004 under then President George W Bush

2:26:57 Under Obama, they have become America's go-to tool of choice in both its conventional and shadow wars being used by both the military and the CIA. Now on first look you cannot blame the Obama administration for being so enamored with drones They allow US forces to attack targets without risking American lives and are relatively cheap However, the Obama administration is being incredibly short-sighted. It's not just that drones do inevitably sometimes kill the wrong targets and can thus radicalise local populations and lead to more terrorism or that they have known to have security flaws witnessed by the computer virus that recently hit the base in Nevada where US military remotely fly their drones. It is also vitally that where drone attacks stand in law is murky at best

2:27:45 Is it acceptable to assassinate people, including Americans? Who pulled the trigger? Under international conventions civilians cannot engage in war. But CIA members are civilians! America seems to have unilaterally decided that it can send drones over borders to kill its enemies into countries it has not declared war on Unsurprisingly, the world is now involved in a new arms race. More than 14 nations are developing armed drones including Russia China and Iran What happens when everyone else starts using drones the way the US has done in Yemen Pakistan Somalia and elsewhere? Here it starts If America protests The U.S will be looking mighty hypocritical

2:28:31 A science fiction scenario is becoming real. Experts believe that unmanned aircraft will eventually take over most tasks currently undertaken by manned systems, that drones will one day be the size of insects and birds and that swarms may be used to overwhelm modern defence systems The international norm that is being created by America is incredibly dangerous to America Unless America, the leader of the free world voluntarily submits to sorting out the international law on use of armed drones right now. It is putting the... Boom! Off the air 12 seconds Wow That's a good little speech I think she was telling it right and really like that I thought it was right on the money

2:29:20 What was this? Dylan Radigan show. Oh, Dylan Radigan! That's the guy that is the one guy I said it before when he first started showing up He is the one wild card at MSNBC. He does not subscribe to left wing philosophies necessarily. He goes after everybody. He's fairly neutral And this doesn't surprise me that this will be in the show. He's a radical, in some way shape or form but I'm telling you he is not going to be on long. Well you can see the entire clip including the 12 second break and then they comes back and says hey thanks that was great at 349er.nashownotes.com where we maintain links everything we've discussed on todays program

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