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00:00 Study shows 38.2% of the European Union populace has mental problems. Well, you can see why! Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's Thursday October 6th 2011 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 345 This is no agenda Pack it up Backing up the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center. Countin' down the days here in the People's Republic of Southern California. In The Morning I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I was just clearing my throat and never actually said hit it... I'm John C. Dvorak. I know! I was trying to time it with your throat flemish and then hit it for people who don't know

00:49 There's a lot of fun stuff that happens before we actually start the show on the stream. And that stuff just doesn't get record- Actually, it does get recorded and I think sometimes people release it. The sound, the dulcet tones of the professional slide whistle this morning brought to you by my partner and colleague Jean-Claude Deborac. In the morning John! In the morning to you Adam Curry and all ships at sea in the morning and all boots on the ground and beats in the ground... And feet in the air. And pulled some beats up last night. Yeah tomatoes upside down yeah. And in the morning to the human resources who've showed up loyally waiting for your hit it there in the chatroom nojennachat.net NojennaStream.com

01:32 Where we are always streaming our program live Thursday and Sunday mornings. It's the no agenda show the best podcast in the universe I'm reliably informed yeah, I think it's true that apparently is not saying much What what do you mean? Guess there's not that many good podcasts Yeah Well You know when we started its like all things on the internet anyone can do it And then this is gonna be a few good and the rest will suck It's just what it is. Yeah, most suck actually. Yeah that's true. Oh John I'm a little off balance today You just got back from long trip? Yeah well not a very long trip its actually surprisingly short to get there two and half hour flight Oh its like going from... oh thats commuter

02:22 Time in fact short in fact we flew on an RJ and a regional jet I was surprised It's like it gets like a little hop. We went to Austin what RJW in? It was the can of Canadi air Canadian air rj Which is it's alright, its modern but has no entertainment system of course yeah, they're cramped um not know not cramped But you can't there is no way to actually sleep oh And the seat goes back, if you push the button it goes back like one inch. No it goes back further than some 7 series I've been on. It's just... The way that... Why would you want to sleep? It is a two and half hour flight! Well we came back yesterday morning and took a 6 30 AM flight

03:07 Because Mickey had an appointment here in Los Angeles. And so you get in at 730, which is kind of nice We also want to try and miss the traffic which was foiled due to torrential rainstorms and when it rains in Southern California It's like everyone takes a big stupid pill That's the same to some extent that's the same up here But I know down there they don't rain as like they're baffled by it what? Although we've had a lot of rain this year It's been pretty outrageous. So tell us about Austin? We're moving to Austin! That what you say? No, we have signed a lease Oh really?! Yeah! You're good to go! We are good to go! November 15th! Wow! That doesn't give me much time to get down there

04:00 What do you mean? I'm sorry, please. Oh you're not going to... Please! You're not coming down here don't worry it doesn't matter you'll come to Austin. I'll see that South by Southwest or whatever No we uh.. We went over and looked at like 15-20 homes And ummm.... By the way real estate prices are very affordable Of course is was beautiful 85 degrees It was fantastic blue sky couldn't have been any better And then we walked into a ranch and we both went, okay this is it. This is what we want We want a ranch you know like a three acre does have a barn they had a barn yeah now But here's the here's the problem we walk in were like okay? We'll take it It had just been leased like an half hour before that and this was the first day so the second day where you know We're like okay The ranches are not easy to certainly to lease

04:58 And what you really want to do is you want to, either get a piece of land and build something yourself or it's hard to find the exact right property. Or you might want to get a fixer-upper or something like that. Hello? Yes hello can still hear me John? Hello! I hear you Do you hear me? Okay back I think... Yeah, no what happens is there's something wrong with my sound device thing and when I close this box it turns...it mutes the speaker for some unknown reason. Sorry. Anyway go on about the property thing. Right now so we're saying that

05:44 You know, we really like the idea of a ranch. We think that's where the direction you want to go. It had it had a good feel for us! Just open space... You could shoot prairie dogs. You can shoot all kinds of dogs all kinds of stuff now it's very but it's very hard to find a ranch for Lease but we we it was reaffirmed for us that we definitely want to be in Austin and then we found a place Which we're going to lease for a year and you know that year will A help us determine that we made the right move and B Help us find the right place because it's gonna take a little bit longer to find, you know The perfect ranch And whether you know whatever we want to do and we found a great place just awesome Twice the size of what we have now 60% of the price. That sounds good Yeah

06:37 And there's a room for you. Is there a garage? For a car? Not only that, uh... There is- it's kind of a crazy place I think it was a- Is it haunted? Yes! Of course! Oh good. By ex playmates There is a room that has no windows, a stained concrete floor and air conditioning. It's like I walk in like uh... It's a prison cell! Yeah! No it's the studio! Oh yeah until they lock you in? It's a built-in studio! It was perfect so yeah then and here's how good so we fly home We're all you know like okay You know of course they have to do the credit check and all that and oh my god That's gonna suck you know how that goes And

07:23 And I hadn't even had a chance to tell our current landlord, and they'd already contacted her. Like oops... So i guess she knows Yeah, but she was nice. They're very nice people always pay on time perfect so yeah we're picking up and we are moving out November 15th So how you gonna get all your stuff down there? What do you mean put it in the truck and move it Oh is that how it works We don't have all that much stuff And and to be quite honest when I'm seeing happening around here, and these are the internet connection for that area Yeah, it's well unfortunately. It's time Warner But they do have the high-speed without is that we have now yeah So that's kind of unfortunate at least is the same thing yeah? I'm not a big fan but yet time warner of course it was did I check that yes Of course there's like great house let me see if my cell phone works. Yes that works, and you got Internet here so yeah

08:23 It's gonna be perfect and it's up in the Lake Travis area, which is beautiful. Absolutely beautiful So yeah, we're just as surprised I guess as you are because I do have the address Yes, I do Would you like me to give it on the show or? Well, you can Skype it to me that when they go into Google and I'm gonna look at look at the place Okay, hold on a second. I hadn't actually thought about that. And I just have to open up the browser here so all that Taking place. What are you skyping me something here? I'm just responding to your two notes earlier Oh, yeah was like hello Can you hear me you responded for that really that's great

09:11 Yes, the machine is real slow. I'll get it to you as soon as i can Hey by the way talking about slow Yeah So uh... we have so many technical guys out there what is the deal this has happened We've done on a show and it happened me last night trying to surf the net and its just like everything's like nothing Google pretty quick but everything else is sluggish in my emails not working and they're just like then sites wouldn't load paypal wouldn't come up Really? So I said, well then I said okay let me because i have a brand new one of the top end routers. Oh that would be it! So I rebooted the router and boom I've got 26 down and 6 up smoking. Oh I can tell you what that is so when do you have other machines on this router? And you transfer big files between them No oh no well then I don't know

10:04 I've had that, you know. I've had it happen here...I put a switch in between all my machines and then everything was perfect It all ended just needed to switch Well whatever the case is what is going on that does this? And why would have to reset the router? It's ridiculous! It's called buffer overflow Why?! Why can't the router say hey look this isn't good let me reset the buffer I mean give me a break Oh because cheap stuff That's not that cheap Anyway, I just find it annoying to have to do that. Okay? Yeah, I have the you know Have the address of the coordinates and the coordinates. I'm trying to are you skyping them to me Are you yeah? No, I'm gonna Skype it to you hold on a second Let me just get this link You may have to this isn't probably not the link that shows you everything I don't know It's just you can then take a look yourself you get that yeah okay, okay We can go on from there right um

11:09 So yeah, but I'm actually you know once again confirmed everyone's so nice. Oh you know we had dinner at the Bend on the Hudson or how Hudson on the bend? I think it is this is a place that serves game Yeah, yeah, I had elk yeah, let's say something yeah there was yeah they smoke in their own smokehouse and They rub it with like coffee grinds and chocolate. And actually Mickey had a trout fed on shrimp, so it's kind of pinkish color on the inside. And they bake in a breading of pepper flakes and cornflakes which is just outstanding! Yeah, so good! Well there was good eating down there that much I can assure you Okay the thing I sent you has a couple pictures

12:02 You got a bunch of pictures in here. Is this the place? Yeah, that's the place Wow nice It's cool right yeah This is better than the place you have duh it I'm telling it twice as big That's cheaper But but like 40% cheaper absolutely so the only part could have got him down who says I didn't Come on and you don't know Mickey well enough do ya Anyway, so we're very excited and I'm very happy because I think everything's going to hell in a handbasket here in California. Yeah, I think so too. There is gonna be riots on the streets you watch? Well the riots... You know this thing going on New York which people aren't even our listeners are taking seriously because of right wing talk shows by the way if anyone can catch it listening to the stream last night John Stewart show

12:54 who I think he did one of the best deconstructions, especially of Sean Hannity. They found him quoted saying the exact same thing and then extolling the virtues of the Tea Party and then saying the exact same things and condemning Occupy Wall Street folks And uh... The fact to the matter is I'm yeah, this is very important because this actually when you say the fact of the matter that gives it away that you are a shill now. Now i know your not cause I've been married to you long enough. I thought myself don't worry about it. Yeah but its difficult challenging yeah It's not that difficult I did it and so uh... The fact of the matter is See?

13:41 Anyway, so uh... Hannity and but it's not just Hannity. It's all these guys you have to remember these guys are making millions of dollars and they're representing large corporations no matter how much they may want you to believe their populist right-wing anythings they're not and uh... in the fact that they're going to get a lot of room in a group there so here's the one other things that did well i have the john stewart but if you want thank you charlie if you wanted to play it eyes yeah he was a little late is a really funny andy if it's about them what that would let me just say what it is i think that summer clips are too long the agri solemn let me just say that it seems as if these guys were actually

14:28 honest with themselves, they would see this Occupy Wall Street thing as a great anti-Obama leveraging point. Because it's embarrassing to the president. It doesn't really he's got nothing do the Republican Party or anything These guys are shilling for so why don't they take it as such instead of coming up with all this stuff to defend bankers essentially because John we know that Fox is run by the Democrats as well and this entire movement is now completely being co-opted by the Obama administration completely They've got the unions in. It's almost complete I have one clip, I mean i have a whole bunch if you want but Al Sharpton with this much he gets his shill on...I was blown away first of all the guys in that suit and tie

15:19 He's really clean-cut and he supposed to be at this event. He's at the oh, he's at the event And he says things like the fact of the matter now by the way Before you play that clip I want to mention besides that guy being at the at the even your pal Aaron Burnett Oh, I have that clip too. I've got all those clips she's a man. I hate her tonight My pal here Sharpton joining me now right from lower Manhattan near Wall Street is Harrison Schultz by the way I've been trying to find who Harrison Schultz is there's a Shultz in the White House So this could be he could be related and we'll do talking about Schultz later There's like a damage control guy like a hill and Nolten guy called Schultz

16:00 So this is also Schultz. One of the organizers of the Occupy Wall Street... He's one of the organizers, John! They have organizers and Al Sharpton... This is bogus right off the beginning it's unbelievable! Al Sharpton has him out he found him one of the organizers. And he's got his suit on. Yeah yeah. Mr Harrison thank you for coming on this show Thank you for having me, Reverend. Happy birthday! Yeah every organizer will do that right off the top. Happy Birthday Reverend! Thank you! Tell us a little about the movement that's going on in Wall Street The movement down here is incredibly exciting, it's incredibly exhilarating and honestly my opinion as a professional sociologist I think that this is the beginning of revolution in this country. A revolution going toward what? What are the goals? I see an excitement...I really love the way that there has been discipline and non-violence except on the other side but what are the goals when you say a revolution where are you taking us

17:02 The fact that we don't have a coherent set of goals is what the media has been blasting us the most for, but the fact of the matter is tha- The problems in this country, that this country is going through are very complicated. And so the discussion we're having isn't simple it's a very complicated discussion as well It's a discussion John! It's like Twitter. It's a discussion it what it is...it just a discussion Democracy takes time and uh... Democracy? The conversations that were having are the conversations that leaders and- Democracy takes time?! What does that supposed to mean!? Democracy takes time? Listen to the guy. He is propagating Obama's message of jobs and taxing the rich! Oh yeah, oh yeah... This is a pre-packaged piece. ...politics and economics that the media should be having but really aren't

17:52 So we have to do it ourselves. So really you're showing the discontent and trying to force a conversation, to have a realistic dialogue about what oughta be the real priorities and the real solutions in this country? Yes! The best way to look at Occupy Wall Street in my opinion is to think of it as a conversation- a big conversation that needs to be had that the media and our leaders just aren't having Now we're getting into trouble for having these conversations with the NYPD. I notice you've had people from all walks of life, all racial backgrounds but do all of the elements there that are involved from different parts of society Do they all want the same thing? Do they want different things? It's about having a conversation so everyone can discuss what it is they want

18:41 The thing that we all want, the thing that we all agree on in my opinion and I can only speak from my perspective is that were are here for change. Change! Change! We all want something different, we all want something better as far as specifics how do you go about doing We don't know yet Part of the problem I think part of the issue is that a lot of people that are here aren't fact anarchists aren't revolutionaries and putting a Revolution putting a revolutionary change into political terms. Uh-huh it's very difficult to do tell me that isn't a Barack Obama supporter revolutionary change come on

19:25 because we're trying to get away from all the problems. We don't really want to fix them, it's revolution not reform. Harrison Shultz of The Occupy Wall Street Movement thanks for coming on the show tonight and will be seeing you let me say this too a lot of people that have watched this is easy to dismiss movements It's easy to say I don't understand the purpose, I don't understand the point. The point is there is a lot of discontent even if people don't know as he says what their formulae are to make things right

20:00 They do know things are wrong. There's something wrong when we see rampant unemployment, yet we want to protect tax loopholes for the rich. When you see people being put off of roles that are children, when we see poverty higher than it has been... there those that will respond different ways. We're marching in Washington on October 15th." There's Al Sharpton calling for the march on the 15th is completely organized all over the country with occupation wall street labor is moving. The real point is that change must come and the only thing that's clear, sitting down doing nothing has gotten us where we are. We cannot have as Martin Luther King said the paralysis of analysis. My brothers! We must move so uh... that to me was a complete plant

20:56 And then Erin Burnett, who of course is one... She's not the original Money Honey but liked her a lot on CNBC and then we found out she was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and I fell out of love really quickly. That and she has a big butt too. You are so fickle! Yeah well she has a big butt to it. I saw her ass and was like huh? She has a segment on her new CNN show called Seriously? And this was her Seriously segment. Nobody seems to know. So this afternoon, we went to Walgreens to find out and despite what you heard... Here's what I saw It's not just a bunch of dancing hippies protesting Listen to her uh... read the prompter though where she had- Her whole cadence is wrong because she She sang bongos but she's reading banjos Now how do you say banjo? You say banjo right? Banjo yeah But she's reading the prompter and it comes out banJOS There are all kinds of people there baby Are you gonna play that now Yeah

22:09 Ready? Yeah. Seriously, it's a mixed bag but they were happy to take some time from their books. Banjoes, bongos... Banjos, bongos, banjoooooooos... Yeah that's a prompter flub. Prompter flub. Catered lunch? Yeah there was catered lunch. Designer's reading this. She's horrible! Anyway she goes in and her whole rap is you know we made money on the banker bailouts

22:44 And she gets some stupid idiot to go really oh, I'll have to go research that Donald Trump had the best line though when you can't boil down your mission to one sentence You can't get the same explanation from two protesters nobody knows why they're protesting but they haven't a good day well I said on your show and it was picked up all over the place. A lot of them are down there for dating purposes They're down there to meet people That's what we said. The dad of the guy who picked up chicks! That's what we said! He's listening to our show, he is a horrible man. Stealing our material I hate it when he does that Actually Ben Bernanke...Ben Bernanke actually the guy you'd expect to

23:27 to really BS, he actually kind of said it I think. Let me just ask you something unrelated because... This is from C-SPAN by the way where he was asked a question in congressional hearings. My time's running out. You see protests both on the right and left right now that are getting headlines are on the left in New York what does that protest say to you? What do you hearing from from that activity in New York right now Well, I would just say very generally. I think people are quite unhappy with the state of the economy and what's happening. They blame with some justification the problems in financial sector for getting us into this mess and they're dissatisfied with policy response here in Washington. I think that is right!

24:16 I think Bernanke is actually saying it, although he's saying it for his own purposes. Yeah no, I think he's nailing it! People are upset with this policy response and at some level I can't blame them certainly 9% unemployment and very slow growth is not a very good situation that's what they're protesting He says it right there. Yeah, exactly yeah now but you know I don't understand the the the right-wingers in particular and actually to a lesser extent of left wingers but mainly the right wingers complaining about this i mean why do they well why are they taking the wrong side on this issue? I think that they're doing it because they're trying to help Obama stay in office! They don't want to run this economy

25:04 This is your theory. They want to lose, they want to lose the election we don't... let Obama have them and also as well as elections they run that it would really just keep pushing Perry and he keeps screwing up here's Herman Cain who was of course also a right-winger and let's not forget Herman Cain besides his 999 tax thing I died I don't think its 666 upside down? Yeah there you go Besides that he of course was the president of the Federal Reserve of Kansas City, thank you. So he's a bankster is what he is. He's in the system. The head of the federal reserve in Kansas? I mean come on! Does it give you any clues? And that's never mentioned! No of course not because he's a pizza guy if you ask anyone oh he's a pizza guy

25:53 I was talking to some people in Austin. They're real careful with new people, newcomers from Los Angeles. Oh yeah! They got one hand on the gun when they're talking to you. So what do you think of Perry? He's a douchebag. Everyone in Texas thinks he is a douchebag. And what about Ron Paul? Did I support him last year or this year? That's great but what did you think about Kane? Was he a member of the Federal Reserve Board? No! So they don't even know that in Texas. Anyway, here's Herman Caine's response to the Occupy Wall Street. I'm sure you're aware of the fact that there are these protests going on down around Wall Street, Occupy Wall Street... They've spread to some other cities in the country what do you make? Right right What do they make up it what do they want well they He sounds like who's a guy on PBS is it in your DNA

26:46 What do they want? I don't know what they want, but i think they think that the banks have given them a raw deal over the last few years. I don't have facts to back this up because I am a banker but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration. No! No, no, no, they're being captured to propagate the message of the Obama administration you idiot

27:25 Don't blame Wall Street. What a dick! Well, he got that one wrong. Yeah well it gets... If this guy is president Putin will just walk all over him It gets better. Don't blame the big banks if you don't have a job and you're not rich blame yourself Yes! That's a message Blame yourself You stink! Now Joe O'Biden do you remember who Van Jones was? Yeah, Van Jones was a character that they... essentially the radio talk show guys ended up getting rousted. I think Glenn Beck was the first one who outed him as kind of a screwy socialist that got in position he really shouldn't have had What was his position? What did he do? You remember Van Jones you remember him

28:14 Well, first of all apparently Van Jones and his gang are down on Wall Street They're also weaseling in on the action anyone who has a book or anything to promote any agenda? They're down there getting camera FaceTime everybody but us yeah well You know it's funny because people say you get down You should be down there, yeah really. You should be broadcasting every day." He said no! Our job is to dissect what is happening and it's unfolding before our very eyes this is being co-opted of course people are pissed off and I'll tell you in a minute what this is about and what should be happening but But you're just watching the media slurp this up and the current administration loving it because we want people fighting amongst themselves. That's what the plan is, that we're going to have fighting but it's not going to be between protesters and cops its gonna be between protesters and protestors

29:06 Here's O'Biden on a talk radio show. Let me ask you about the Tea Party, I pretty well have an idea of what your thoughts are on the Tea Party What is your thought on the Van Jones organization of the Occupy Wall Street group which is supposedly counter to the Tea Party? Are they going to be supportive of the President? I really don't know about the Van Jones group all except what I read in the press and And by the way, I don't disrespect a tea party. I think that he party and the van Jones folks are part Different halves of the same concern there's overwhelming frustration There's a great frustration here in America that the two parties haven't been able to get very much moving We have been in this

29:55 Period where there's just nothing but fighting and so you have on the one end van Jones's guys whoever he is talking about I wasn't at that meeting He doesn't know who Van Jones was. Whoever that guy is, I don't know... whatever, I don't know that guy. Soros of course... That's the clip of the day by the way. Thank you. Soros, the multi-billionaire is loving this and he was at the United Nations his little Euronews report about including his quote

30:41 George Soros, the billionaire financier says he understands anti-bank protests that started in New York and have spread across the United States. The Hungarian born investor whose net worth is an estimated 16 billion euros said he sympathised with the Occupy Wall Street movement. Soros was speaking at a meeting at the UN headquarters in Manhattan I can understand their sentiments, frankly. There are a lot of people for instance running small businesses who saw their credit card charges being raised from 8% to 28%.

31:29 I can understand their frustration. You should just do the Soros voice Yes, I can understand that they want to see rich people and not with taking loopholes And taking advantage and paying less tags than their secretary so I understand their frustration and this is...I'm sorry I fell asleep So, yeah. Well this is fun you know the thing that's interesting is that I don't think...I think they're co-opting as best they can but these things can roll out of control on them and the next thing you know... Yeah but isn't what Ron Paul predicted? He said yeah they've been setting us up for a long time They want civil unrest in this country only I'm worried and I mean the chat room if you go to irc.freeno.net and join Occupy Wall Street

32:27 that's IRC chat, you can see them fighting in this chat room already because you have the shills who are in literally saying oh this is about the rich eat the rich and we've got to have the rich have loopholes and we've got nothing. That's that's the administration's message That's what this is. The president, before we started... Back off a second What is the IRC channel? Is this and what networks it on? The network is freenode.net so irc.freenode.net Free-no? Free node free nodes one of the oldest IRC networks there is IRC dot freenode dot net and then you get into Occupy Wall Street And by the way all these websites that are cropping up

33:12 Because a whole bunch of different ones that you know all the who is registrations are all protected So you have no idea who's registering this stuff what's going on? Using anonymizers. No, no they do just get the privacy Yeah, so I mean yeah, yeah, you could get the privacy registration. Yeah There was one kid down there on Wall Street Who of course it was not on television and I like his message a lot. When you have big state government, small federal government our voices are heard at the local level we can make differences A whole continent wide cannot control a federal government with a banking system that prints money like it's paper You cant even call it money anymore Gold is money Silver is money Green dollars are not

34:06 money. They're using inflation as a hidden tax to fuck the people. Prices go up, do your wages go up? No! My wages didn't go up but prices went up gas goes up milk goes up trains How am I supposed to live? And this is all because our government prints too much money, starts too much wars so they can sell their tanks, their guns, their missiles. Because that's all America exports is guns, missiles and tanks! This guy listens to me Now how does that guy you know...I mean That this just another...this movement is so

34:50 It's so broad, I mean there is every imaginable person. There is probably a vegan guy in there yelling and screaming about something Well the thing that baffles me Is when this happened in Tahrir Square And of course you know the jackals got in there too When this happened in Athens it's about the same things It's the exact same things that are happening here Let's just go down the list And Israel don't forget Oh yeah but let's just go down the list And we'll compare it to any Arab Spring state. We can almost do a clippity-clop Lucifer Clinton thing here Do we live in a police state? Well, yes I think we do live in the police state

35:28 Do we kill people? Sometimes innocent people in this country. Well, yes! We put people to death all the time. We don't do it by hanging or public beheading which by the way John and I think we should do because that'd be a great reality show but we do that in this country absolutely I mean yeah. Don't forget more prisoners. We have more prisoners in our prisons than any other country in the world than any other country in the world. We have slaves! And they're all disenfranchised, they're not allowed to vote They are all slaves Does our president kill his own citizens? Yes! Are you kidding me?! He doesn't do it with AK-47s No he does it with drones So this is what the people are upset about because they feel it and by the way more and more people are listening to NO AGENDA and saying Yeah

36:21 Yeah, this is the awakening moment. I read a beautiful thing about a priest who went to Syria... Someone emailed it to me and it was astounding with some very funny lines. Let's see if we can find this... Here we go! Delegation of Syria Antiochean, am I pronouncing that right? Orthodox Christian Archdiocese. So they went on a trip and the guy does...and you can find this in the show notes 345.nashownotes.com And this is Pastor...what was his name? Pastor John or something like that and Pastor Pat Father Pat Parishioners pleaded with me some with tears please don't go father pat it's dangerous there in Syria

37:25 So the guy of course didn't see any violence, didn't see anything horrible but there's one passage in this article that he wrote. Candor compels a confession nonetheless that at one point in my journey I did feel just a wee bit unsafe Our little group was conducted into a large room full of scary looking people, where security force of more than 20 husky uniformed officers met us. All of them carrying side arms and several holding assault rifles as we walk through their midst the security force gave our group suspicious once over it is worth mentioning that this scene took place in the boarding area at the Chicago airport

38:11 And it's just true. It is just true, we... everything that I've learned in my life and maybe you've seen this as well John is when you turn it upside down that's usually the right way and we just have it all upside down We are the slaves, we are the suppressed, we live in the police state, we are being screwed And to revisit Ron Paul's point about building fences on the southern border to keep us in, not to keep the Mexicans out. Now there is a huge movement and this is a huge scandal and considered I guess a national insult To build a fence and a trench across the Canadian border! Yeah yeah I know Canadians are really irked about this They say what is wrong with you people? So we're basically building a Berlin Wall

39:02 I have a clip from Canadian Member of Parliament Scott Bryson who was very, very upset that some Members of Parliament have business cards with gold lettering. And I don't know if he meant this, but I hope we did because then he's my new friend. Now we learn that the foreign minister insists on having golden business cards. This despite the fact that using gold on business cards breaks Treasury Board rules because it is too expensive Why is the Minister breaking government rules? Why is he giving taxpayers the gold finger

39:42 This is a very expensive game of you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. When Canadians are struggling just to get by, why are Conservative ministers showering each other with gold? Why the golden showers Mr Speaker! Why the golden shower? Please, I want more golden showers. Unbelievable! I don't think he knew what he was saying. Nah probably not. He doesn't have a dirty mind. Made my day. Before we go on i think we should take a quick break and do some thanks for the number of people who helped us celebrate 345 show three four five that is

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43:19 345 again from Flower Mound, Texas. I should have one more payment tonight who had believe my last name was around 250 blah blah blah if you have a time can you plug my wife's Robins website at hyper sisters store calm it's high stir sisters yeah H y s t e r sisters store dot com a great place for listeners or listeners wives who are going to have surgery It's interesting. Of any kind or have had surgery to get some extra care, that sounds like a good thing. Yeah then we go to our associate executive producers Sid Incognito in Melville New York with a very long note which I'll be part of

43:59 He's semi-anonymous. Donated to dispel the myth that Indians are cheap. He is apparently an Indian even though it came in from Melville, New York which gives me the impression that he's not really... He has been absorbed into some American thinking I'd like to remain Senate anyway says give me credit as Sid incognito I love your show except when you make be punched my steering wheel in frustration at some of your anti scientific claims that would be Adam Yeah, but you defended it on the email. I saw that you were defending it You were like what do you mean? What what anti scientific claims no? I wasn't if I was asking specifically and he never really gave me came up with some stuff in another email There's a fact the number of emails have gotten from Sid here are like good thinking of turning into a book anyway He brings up the Al Qaeda thing which is

44:51 the inconsistencies of Caida versus Al-Qaeda that John complained about according to the Book of Knowledge. Al translates to the definite article, The and if you read carefully see that The Times appears to have adopted the practice of omitting it depending on the grammatical context now that I've noticed but in fact is still idiotic okay? Zach Winston also a... He wanted some karma for his parents back in India We're facing a years-long fight with the atrocious Indian justice system because they got swindled out of a large chunk of their life savings by A stockbroker. Oh, yeah that was the big The big market crash in India. Yeah I want to make sure we do the karma shots you've got karma There ya go

45:37 And that'll work. He's Indian, perfect! And then finally Zach Winston out of Narbeth Pennsylvania $200 he'll be an associate executive producer for today show 345 I want to remind people to go to Dvorak org slash NA or channel Dvorak dot com slash and a the no agenda show calm has a link and so does No Agenda Nation where you can get your slave t-shirt which seems to be selling out which is perfect for the New York event. Noagendashow.com, noagendanation.com and channeldvorak.org. And Mickey... Eric DeShill sent a couple of t-shirt cuts and sizes and Mickey has selected a unisex one that is much better cut than the current slave T-shirt and also one if you're hot chick so that one probably not going to be selling a lot

46:27 But we don't have any hot chicks. Listen to our show. Yeah, plenty of hot chicks who just wouldn't wear T-shirts Couple of PR initiatives going on some domain name forwards a lone squirrel who of course does a lot of work for the show there in Paducah, Kentucky A couple domains is forwarding to know agenda show calm uncompromised news.com gitmo torture comm economic safety net which I like That's a good one economic safety net those are forwarding and he says thank you once again for the consistent entertainment and analysis Here's my said domain name forwarding to know agenda show calm don't drone me bro.com which Become a nice meme get mo zombies comm forwarding to the show I like that how about this one selling the news? Calm oh yeah, I like that a lot

47:23 This is Ryan Hoskins, he said he couldn't even believe it was taken. And in fact the band Switchfoot just came out with a new album called Vice Versus and the name of one of the songs is Selling The News so we have... We have a song for the site! Yeah we do! WeAreThe1Percent.com Thank you Another one, TheWrongDomain.com These are all pretty good Then Michael Zmowski says, could you please help me and Michael Moore. It's not the director but a different Michael Moore and myself spread the word that this Saturday at Los Angeles City Hall we will be camping out in the name of no agenda and liberty with fellow occupiers like ourselves We'll be pitching a tent in the name of No Agenda & Liberty this Saturday 8pm in front of Los Angeles City Hall Now what I like is they're holding up big signs that say You are being tricked listen to NO AGENDA SHOW dot com

48:24 So I think that's good. We need more of those signs, we need more signs! Maybe we should be printing up signs because you know now the professional signs are in right? The professional signs from the unions and stuff and the cardboard signs aren't cutting it anymore so maybe we should think about that Hey there is a brand new No Agenda Roku channel which looks just awesome Link in the show notes under the PR section will also put it in the links that rock section If you have a roku, you know how works You go to that link you fill out your Roku information as a code you type that in and has both the back episodes And the live stream which is cool. So you can it's all right there In the Roku channel on That looks extremely awesome and then this came into no agenda 1111 11 super karma coin is coming in

49:15 I don't even remember the 10-10-10 Super Karma medallions this year. I've created the 11111 Super Karma coin, 2 inch stamped metal coin with enamel colors. Pre-sales just started at noagendasupercarma.com A limited edition only 33 numbered including acrylic case but not with your secret stealth helicopter $33 and two regular editions are 22 dollars and eleven cents I'd appreciate your help in mentioning these so i can go for the 11-11-11 donation. That's Sir Ernie and they're kind of cool, if you go to noagendasuperkarma.com They're like psychedelic these coins which is a nice take on the traditional karma or traditional challenge coins And actually should mention that So we are staying at my friend Greg again in Austin

50:08 Which we hadn't seen for several months since we stayed there on the Hot Pockets tour. And Nikki says, oh my goodness! Your black jeans are still hanging in the closet and I misplaced my black jeans actually had to go buy a new pair and what was in the pocket of the black jeans? A challenge coin. My challenge coin and my gold coin, everything that I'd lost Oh the coins that you lost are now the CIA guy sent you a new CIA coin in lieu of the fact that you lost two coins which you stupidly left in another guys closet Now you admitted it publicly now you have an extra challenge coin And I have absolutely nothing to show for We'll give you little hot pockets Jiggle make you feel better Hey by the way before I forget this too Did you know Formula One is coming to Austin next year?

50:57 That's fantastic. You don't even like sports Yeah, I just thought of throw it out there. You're gonna start liking sports You're gonna at least be in the town with probably one of the greatest college football teams in history is that Austin? Yeah University of Texas and a huge stadium you should go to a game That's right. I'm gonna go to get what he would enjoy and Mickey would enjoy watching this. That's right We're becoming sports fans we're going to drive drive pickup trucks. We're gonna have guns What else honey? for Ferrari racing yeah all right Mickey sure everybody thank you so much though this is highly appreciated we know it's a magic number and it wasn't anything like some of the other you know the

51:43 200 show or other numbers that we've received. We know the numbers have gone up, but I'm so delighted and a smile comes to my face when you guys go to Devorak dot org slash N A Show your love and appreciation and keep us on the road I should mention that all ever all of people had donated three four five will be listed as members of the special Also special executive producers of this show. Yeah, we do an entire list and thank you all very much And is Buzzkill jr sending that to me because I don't have it yet It was in an email yeah boy sent it to me Okay forwarded on to me so I can put it into the show notes very important everyone else out there Of course There is something you can do which has to do with our formula Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Order Wear a T-shirt Shut up slave

52:49 You. I'm very excited, um...I've not been this excited in a while. That uh...Mickey's excited too. Oh about moving? Yeah she's freaking out! She loves it. She's freaking out?! Yeah! Totally freaking out. We're very excited to get outta this hellhole So I heard you on to it by the way yeah, Adam Curry's and he he's moving to Austin He thinks I heard you use cynical bastard. You showed you didn't all this shows you wouldn't be listening to it that was one showed you didn't I He thinks. Yeah, he thinks. So uh... I haven't seen it yet, you haven't moved yet so uh... It's signed. Signed sealed delivered on euros. So we did a Devorak Horowitz which i think you may or may not run after this show today yeah I heard it Did you listen to the show about this Dexia bank and but right underneath the EU nose in Belgium A bank

53:49 A Belgian bank has run up a debt that is higher than the entire GDP of Belgium. I have the, I have one minute report on that Well before you play that report see how much this report you can take which is discussing it just because this my favorite guy on CNBC World The French guy Oh yeah okay How much at all? We lost 25% yesterday, 38% at some point during the session yesterday. We're up 7%, 9% right now on Dexia France and Belgium are going to come up with a solution for the bank within the next 24 hours

54:26 solution it's what the french finance minister of course or that one say this morning to our lta radio and dixie eyes not widely expected to be a broken up with the sale of fits uh... healthier operations such as the belgium under two kishu banking unit false about what confirmed that they still would not stay in its uh... current form the russian belgian government also are working on a call the creation of a bad bank which would gather all the toxic assets of Dexia and the bad bank would receive the state guarantee from... I can't, it's hard to follow. The toxic assets! Well i have an understandable report which is okay everything the french guy just said in english

55:08 As a rescue plan comes together for struggling Belgian French bank Dexia, some worried depositors have been withdrawing their money. Its customer helpline has been overwhelmed with calls the French and Belgian governments are racing to stop the banks troubles from worsening the eurozone debt crisis. The head of the French central bank explained, we'll ensure there is enough liquidity as we say in financial jargon that means... In financial jargon? That's way too complicated for you stupid slaves! It's financial liquidity! ...national bank and the Bank of France will lend Dexia as much money as is needed to ensure the restructuring process goes smoothly.

55:49 Belgium and French state financial institutions own nearly 48% of Dexia, which they ended up with but it had to be rescued following the 2008 financial crisis. It had to be saved then as now because it's a lender to thousands of French and Belgian local councils The part of the bank that has made those loans will be combined with other French state-owned banks The loans its made to the Greek government which are unlikely to be paid back in full will be shifted Bad bank. Taxpayers again picking up the tab.

56:34 Yeah, no it's not reported at all. No! But who is paying for it? There was too much jargon involved. Yes, too much financial jargon but who's paying for this? Who?! Horowitz is really concerned that the French are gonna take it or are gonna collapse I mean this whole thing now you know what happened which again we explained in our show You know is the Italy got downgraded by three notches Yeah, bang-bang-bang. Right and there's France is on you know the everyone knows the pigs You know the Portugal Ireland that a whole group of people Greece but the French the French and if the French go they've Germans I'm telling this is the German takeover of the entire European Eurocontinent no so I was reading an article which I have linked in the show notes three four five at any show notes calm and someone asserted that this was actually

57:23 Because the ratings agencies are of course US ratings agencies, right? It's like Moody's. And they were asserting that this is actually the US attacking the European system And I thought there might be something to that. I like it, you know because who is Moody's right? It's just a bunch of American well used to have an Indian guy running it but it's an American company standards and poor as American company and they just downgrade downgrade and then just screwing it just completely annihilate the European system and I'm like there is something to that There really is not against it

58:00 So essentially, and Sir Baron Steven van Pelsmakers has been sending me tons of articles from Belgium. And he sent me this a few days ago that people are like freaking out about their money in Dexia and there is a run on the bank which of course no one will actually say those words anymore because I think it's isn't foreboding, uh isn't it disallowed by governments everywhere to now actually say well it's fine on the banks. One of our own senators essentially I think was the senator or congressman I think was a senator unfortunately

58:37 It eludes me who it is the chat room might remember, but he essentially told people to take their money out of the Bank of America which is calling for a run on the Bank of America and it seems as if you look at YouTube videos that this was taking place in St. Louis Ah I have this video where there are people being blocked from taking their money out Yeah You wanna hear? And this has not covered it all He came back later and said they would not go along with that That you will have to withdraw your money all live That would make no sense. Suppose I don't have a computer? No, they could see why was here Oh yeah! I told them that. I showed them my car. I showed them my deposit. Yeah This car tells me i'm a customer and I got a current letter saying im a customer

59:29 And they wouldn't let me in. But they were letting other people in, which I feel that discrimination. What do you want to do with your money instead of having it here? I want to put it on a local bank. I'm going to find a local bank... First I want them to write me a check and then I'll look for a local bank. Now so this was a black guy and they had SWAT teams in front of the Bank of America and I think that what they're doing if I understood this scenario properly is black people were not being allowed in because I guess they had formed a little mini run with like 20-30 people and they're being corralled, like no you can't do this. And it sounds like discrimination to me. Now I want to say something... Yeah that's what he says, I think it is. What are we going to do about it? Right well Mickey and I were watching the president speaking this morning before the show started actually ran a little long He was supposed to stop at 9 so we could get going but he ran along

1:00:28 And you know there was a question about this $5 debit card swipe fee and it's so amazing to me even Mickey was yelling the right answer that instead of this just being a free market. Even Mickey? Even Mickey, well when... No! If she heard that she is going to... She is on the phone, she is on the phone. Oh good thing I didn't mean it that way, but Mickey is typically She thinks a long time before she'll come out with an opinion and she's always on the side of positivity Which I like Alexis which is why okay? You're digging yourself under the whole thing. Thanks. I'm out And the pren you know it's about you know well the banks are hot here. She comes The banks are behind the financial

1:01:16 You know regular because of the financial regulation at the banks now came out and said you know well We're gonna have to charge these five dollars the president saying well, you know this used to be a hidden fee Because of all our good work and our regulations. This is why they're doing it only instead of you know This is competition It should just be pure And this would Mickey immediately said before came out of my mouth Is this is the wrong answer as you just go to a different bank? if you don't like it. Not the government's going to protect you for the evil bank, John we are at a bank which is a gangster bank and they do not charge us swipe fees they don't charge us even when get the money back for the $3 surcharge on a foreign ATM there are banks that do this and it's a small community bank yeah those small community banks do their job

1:02:01 And it's crazy because this used to be illegal. They call you by name when you show up! Dude, when I call them they're like hey Mr. Curry how are you doing? How is Christina? How is Mickey or they say Miriam often... Now I'm in trouble It's the database But still they're really nice and do anything to help You can get your actual bank manager on the phone and they do stuff for ya They didn't take any tarp money It's just, it's just... You can do this but instead of the president saying well go to another bank. You know? No no we're gonna look out for you that you don't get screwed by the evil bankers! This is crazy! Anyway. Yeah that was bad

1:02:48 So, no that of course is not reported about Bank of America at all. And the Dexia thing is not reported at all we don't know it... No Americans know anything about this and its huge! This is and they... The people all the stock guys do because they follow you know Bloomberg reports and they have to keep track of this because it's all part of that European mess but now we get none of that. And 50% of this thing is already owned by the government But in Belgium now, it's out of control. They're also going to bring in the fat tax did you hear about? I think was Norway that is the first country ever to bring in the fat tax now Belgium's gonna do it You know what that is? Uh, no. Is it like a value added? No! No-no It's not VAT If you're fat if your overweight If your overweight you get screwed Hey! Hey! Step on the scale slave! I'm sorry... No uh fatty foods will get uh... Oh right now i do know about that What a bunch of bull crap that is The Fat Tax

1:03:44 And in Belgium now they also have to have, by the way Gitmo Nation Lowlands is now considering this. Yeah this is a very good idea! This is fat tax! This is very good we're gonna keep our people healthy and pay more for fatty foods In Belgium now it is law that you have if you buy cigarettes they have to self extinguish after like 30 seconds If you don't draw on it because its dangerous So, because you know we don't want you burning up. We don't want your burning something new stupid slave You don't eat it on a smoke It's just uh... While were on that this was a funny commercial I came across This is brand-new from General Electric and the United States Department of Agriculture These days lots of people are trying to eat more nutritious meals And to help these individuals maintain their lifestyle GE has partnered with the USDA To create myplate.gov button

1:04:40 One touch takes you to a smart cooking guide for preparing 44 different menu options, including rice, oatmeal, carrots, broccoli and other favorite foods that meet the USDA's dietary guidelines. Now it's easy to cook healthy meals in just a few minutes! The MyPlate.gov button only available from GE The myplate.gov button pretty soon will be like, I'm sorry your microwave doesn't work because it's not healthy what you have in there This is probably going to happen and of course this movement has been taking kind of front top of the fold as far as these morning shows are concerned

1:05:23 and they're now, the stupidest thing I've ever heard is on ABC was on ABC Good Morning America where in the clip is a ABC uncovers a school scandal. And you just have to kind of listen to like are this is a classic who are they kidding approach to the news? Now to the public school teacher who was coming out of the shadows for the first time after going undercover, to document what tens of millions of American students are given for lunch every day. With nearly 20% of our children obese she set out to show the disservice we're doing our children by serving them highly processed food full of salt and starch First here's ABC's Juju Chang

1:06:04 Juju Chang, so uh so they and I have actually a longer clip that kind of incorporates this. This is the same thing this is just if you think about it she goes undercover I'm a kid! Did she check on school lunches? What, does she just walk in the- you can- I can walk into a school and look at the lunches every day of the week and write it down what they are. Why do you have to be undercover? Was she wearing a mask?! They kicked Jamie Oliver out of the country for going undercover and doing this He was all over- Be upright... What a cross Go undercover Look at these horrible lunches they're feeding these kids We didn't know Hey did they have like the buttonhole camera footage Like there were like this shaky cam like Oh my god look at that it's starch

1:06:46 Oh, it's bad. It's very bad starch Starch! This is bad starch They should have a myplate.gov button in the cafeteria Yeah... Now this nanny state stuff is not good It's not the way it is in Texas boy I'll tell you that Yet Let's listen to some of your Texas governor play it. Easy does it pal! This guy, this Perry character is just so pathetic and listen to the way he's worse than Bush. He's making gaffes...Bush never made gaffes when he was first running only did later but this guy can't really say anything without sounding like an idiot I have two clips period as an idiot one in periods and idiot 2 All of us agree that the word that was on that rock is a very offensive rock

1:07:34 and a very offensive word. The word on that rock was a very offensive rock! I thought it was talking about Iraq? It's Iraq, Iraq, Iraq... let me hear the rock All of us agree that the word that was on that rock is a very offensive rock Bad Rock go stand over there by the bad bank And then now play Perry as an idiot too. Mitt needs to get a position and stick with it, I mean he's flipping more than that great movie star flipper. Adios mofo! That great movie star flipper

1:08:15 What a douche! Hold on a second. Douchebag! What an idiot, and we're running him out of Texas don't worry. And they wrote this guy, they're anxious I mean Rush Limbaugh is the biggest supporter he just wants this guy to be president. We're running him out man we're running him out of town wow that's pretty funny i like that movie star flipper Oh boy. Let me go, let me see...let's see...oh something there was some news believe it or not the United Nations held a vote and the vote was to basically create a no-fly zone over Syria oh I thought they were gonna do a no fly zone over New York yeah well they should remember this is going on for awhile

1:09:12 and they essentially put together a bunch of really weak sanctions just to get another step in both Russia and China vetoed the bill. And Susan Rice, my favorite along with Lucifer Clinton she stormed out of the General Assembly because she was outraged against China and Russia vetoing the resolution Today's refused draft was based on the philosophy of confrontation. We can't agree with this unilateral accusation against Damascus, we believe it unacceptable the threat or ultimatum of sanctions against Syrian authorities." European countries in the US had backed the resolution. The United States is outraged that this council

1:10:01 has utterly failed to address an urgent moral challenge and a growing threat to regional peace and security." During his speech, the Syrian ambassador criticized the US leading to this response. The U.S delegation walking out the end of an embarrassing day for the United Nations, the resolution defeated and deep divisions within the UN over Syria all too clear. And then she clippity-clopped her way right out there. Well you know we...and of course we spotted that this Syria thing was taken off the table by analyzing The New York Times reporting especially showing their... Right. ...of course not to mention the guy you talked about earlier in the day so this entire thing was total theater it was bull crap trying

1:10:51 China and Russia were given the go-ahead to do this so they could look good to their people. I don't believe that any of that bull crap we're being fed is true. No, the whole thing is bogus! That which you mentioned earlier in the show with a guy who went over there and saw nothing he was yeah He was he saw more action in Chicago than he did in Syria And this has been this has pretty much been the message but for some reason We want to make it

1:11:29 I don't know what the deal is. We have to be on the wrong side on this issue for some reason You and I are definitely both on the wrong side of history, my friend This is what Susan Rice keeps repeating She did a press conference right after that where she comes out and says... She's a phony! She knows that this was rigged? She's a douchebagette She comes out and says Well I certainly didn't expect to be standing at the press conference this early And she said idiots Oh god I hate her Hate her hater hater She's annoying She's an annoying woman with her hair all tied back. So Syria is off the table, Bahrain is off the table even though they probably have more action going on there nobody wants to talk about the Israeli protesting... No! ...the American protesting is going by way of co-option. No let's not do that. At the ultimate goal I think it's still all about Iran John

1:12:20 That's where all roads lead to Tehran. Every country that is talked about, it's eventually Iran supporting them and they got a nuclear weapon... Yeah I don't know how they're gonna pull this off but that's what they're aiming for It's Drone Nation time. Don't you mean Doughnation Time? He means Adam's got another story about drones! Yeah, I've actually got a little bit of drone nation story You have drone stories. I have drone stories indeed i do there is uh...I was quite surprised by this I don't know if you were copied on this email but there is a

1:13:06 In the United States government there is an Unmanned Systems Caucus. Now can you explain to us what a caucus is? Because we've heard of the Black Caucus... It's a gathering of like-minded or people who are specialists, it's like a club So they have a website Unmanned Systems Caucus.McKeon.House.Gov and I have their mission and main goals right here as members of this caucus we 1. Acknowledge the overwhelming value of these systems to the defense, intelligence, homeland security law enforcement and scientific communities

1:13:45 Recognize the urgent need to rapidly develop and deploy more unmanned systems in support of ongoing civil, military and law enforcement operations. Three Work with the military industry, the Department of Homeland Security NASA, The Federal Aviation Administration And other stakeholders To seek fair and equitable solutions to challenges created by UAV operations In the U.S. national airspace Four, support our world-class industrial base that engineers develops manufactures and tests unmanned systems in creating thousands of American jobs. And five, support policies and budgets that promote a larger more robust national security unmanned system capability! This sounds like something for me In fact the co-chairs welcome you to the website Hello I'm Henry Coyer

1:14:41 Hi, I'm Buck McKeon and we want to welcome you to the Congressional Unmanned Systems Caucus website. The webpage has been redesigned to meet the growing demand for information on the unmanned systems caucus. Congressman Cuellar and I are both excited to co-chair a caucus that has grown over 30% in the 112th congress The goal of Congressional Unmanned Systems Caucus is to educate members of congress, stakeholders and the public on the strategic tactical and scientific value of unmanned systems. Our caucus recognizes the overwhelming value of unmanned systems in the scientific intelligence law enforcement and homeland security communities. The members of our bipartisan caucus are committed to the growth and expansion of these systems in all sectors

1:15:34 We face a new reality of increased violence along our southern border associated with illegal trafficking of drugs, weapons, cash and humans. Though we've taken critical steps to interdict illegal activity and prevent any spillover of violence, our nation's communities along our borders and coastal waters continue to face a unique exposures through threats. Unmanned systems provide real-time surveillance information to federal state and local law enforcement agencies while keeping personnel out of high risk and hazardous environments. Hopefully you'll find our new website as a great resource for unmanned systems

1:16:11 In addition to the website, our office staff is ready to assist you with issues related to this rapidly expanding industry. Awesome! You guys rock! This is fantastic! We have a whole club talking about drones which is good for America And of course, my theory has been all along that this next-gen aviation system... Right. This is your theme? Yeah so there's a couple you know once again we've had a couple of stories they came out once again with there's new information all of a sudden about the Air France crash

1:16:51 The investigation keeps getting reopened and for any airmen out there, I mean to me this sounds wrong but i'll read this little quote. So what they're trying to do is discredit pilots. Pilots bad automated systems that fly people around good I've lost the VSI that's vertical speed indicator. The junior co-pilot said of the Airbus vertical speed indicator according to a recording detailed in the report from the court appointed experts, in fact the instrument was functioning normally its analog needle immobilized at the lower limit because the plane was hurtling towards the ocean at 15 000 feet a minute uh... document as seen by Bloomberg News and what they're saying is that the pilots were the title of it is the pilots were

1:17:36 in error and confused. Now let me tell you one thing, when your aircraft is descending at 15000 feet a minute you're knowing this okay? You're knowing this because shit... you're floating in the cockpit! Fifteen thousand feet per minute so to say that they didn't understand what was going on and didn't understand I mean it's a lie It's totally to set you up to make you feel that pilots are no good. Air controller partly to blame for fatal crash says ABC News and this was a crash in 2004 in Australia This is the controller, another part of the air system The Victorian coroner has found air traffic controller was partly to blame for fatal plane crash in the states northeast In 2004 the twin engine turboprop crashed and burst into flames

1:18:34 The coroner, who apparently is an aviation expert ruled an air traffic controller and satellite navigational error were to blame because experienced pilot Kerry Endicott was not notified he had traveled off course before impact. I'm not buying this either! You know when you're doing an instrument landing... ...you've got instruments and you have steam gauges it's just GPS so I'm just not buying the explanation And so all of these stories, and the aviation reporting is always poor regardless. They're being pushed in your face to make you feel comfortable with the idea of a system that's managed by the government which will keep automatic separations or land planes automatically. Oh those pesky pilots they can't make any mistakes and there was a meeting at the AOPA

1:19:23 That's the pilots association. They brought in a guy from the unmanned aerial vehicle industry association and he gives it away and tells exactly what the plan is, as I've been predicting all along trying to integrate some of this wonderful technology so that we can peacefully integrate, peacefully coexist with manned aircraft reducing the threats that are legitimate in some respects. So that we can all fly in the same airspace without putting additional burden on the manned industry or unmanned industry We will simply comply with requirements of new air space and traffic

1:20:01 next-gen so to speak System as it as it unfolds there you go, so what he's saying is the transition happens We bring in the next gen system. Will all be playing together nicely we've got legitimate concerns by the way notice He says legitimate concerns about demand vehicles and then before you know It it's gonna be drones flying everywhere And you're actually gonna get on a drone this how crazy it is You will if you want to flight to Austin get on the drone Drone airways calm, but it's our new business John. Oh we need the website drone Airways on airways comm and it is so wrong this is such an egregious Government program you just really don't want this you really really don't And there's a whole caucus just to get its great scientific and civil and law enforcement more than in yep

1:20:53 Just have all kinds of drones flying around. It's great! The science is in!! Yeah, we need a bunch of drone... DroneAirways.com So this fence they're gonna build across Canada They said no it was not really a fence We're gonna there's a whole area the North Dakota area where just we're gonna build a big trench This is impractical to put a fence there so I'm going to build a trench How deep is this thing? Canada must be a huge threat to the US. Oh, there's all these terrorists are pouring in the Canadian through the Canadian border really how much terrorist activity we actually have? We had some I was listening to some douchebag

1:21:39 female douchebag on one of the talk shows. Douche baguette. On Fox going on and about oh you know the problem going on in New York is that, you know there police are spending too much time with these protesters and the terrorists are being ignored! You what terrorist? It makes it sound like town's crawling with them. And by the way my prediction which I'm putting in the book is in the dead of night over the next couple of weekends the cops are gonna roll in around three in the morning and clear out this whole protest operation. Oh, I guarantee that. It's going to be wiped clean! But you put that in the book as your prediction...I'm totally on board with it though Well, the Canadians actually do know about terrorism and they would like a trench

1:22:24 I know we talked about this but i hadn't actually seen the video. This is in Vancouver, Dick Cheney was coming up to read from his book and they're all out there! They are going to arrest him! This is a dark day for Canada In 2000 the Canadian Parliament passed a statute that the Canadian crimes against humanity and war crime fact and that states that Canada is not be a haven it's not give refuge for war criminals The most obvious, notorious war criminal or credibly accused war criminal because he hasn't had a trial yet is Dick Cheney. Not only did he lie to go to war his lies leading to a million deaths but he self-confessed torture. These f***ing scumbags are here right now and we're not arresting them We're turning our cheek on this b****. Dick Cheney's in the torture chat tonight eh?

1:23:16 Hey, yeah we played this clip two shows ago. We talked about it I don't think we played it well you played a clip and it was had the same guy moaning It's called dick wars is the clip oh? I'm sorry That's okay now you catch me now you catch me you catch me. I don't have the horn No But I do have And now, back to Real News. Something you uncovered John! A new word was going to be integrated into the NBC and ABC and CBS sitcoms The word? Grimes with Angina Here it is the Whitney Show Oh Listen It is okay man Everyone breaks up eventually We are not meant to be with one person for that long Three years I mean

1:24:08 You wanna have pizza every night for three years? Yeah, actually. Okay bad example the same vagina Wow That's a right worst show by the way that some writing right there no story yeah That's it that's that's some writing right there everybody Do you want the same vagina every night? Myself and JC must kill Jimmy watching all the new sitcoms that because there's a crap load of man We compare them all to Whitney as is it as bad as Whitney. Yeah, really And we've actually found a couple that are worse no No, they canceled the madmen at the club The Playboy Show they canceled out already

1:24:53 That didn't have a prayer. No, they got am stinks by that's madmen in the air and then what else they have By the way very nice to see X Factor failing failing outrageously failing Happy to see that yeah, it's good. I'm getting sick of these these amateur hour shows I mean It's just like how many of this crap can we take but it says here? We have a lot of people that can sing It's a cycle no. It's a fractal as you would call and say it's a cycle its It comes on it comes around and it's over Yeah, I mean if they start with the gong show and at time is over And it's good because you know people are sick and tired of reality They want acted stuff

1:25:39 Excuse me, unfortunately the active stuff sucks balls. There's nothing good...nothing! So uh yeah well there's actually a couple of watchable shows so So we've talked about this post office thing which still galls me to no end because you can just keep seeing it. They're trying to privatize the post office more than has already been privatized and I dug up that clip that we didn't have and i want people to listen to this, this post office attack on the post offices is an entire scam propagated by Congress and and I don't know who else but its gotta be stopped! We cannot afford to let the Post Office

1:26:20 closed down essentially. The people want to destroy the Postal Service had to manufacture a crisis. Who wants to destroy the postal? Well, because they know it's an essential business that will have to take place anyway. The Postal Service in 2004 did 70 billion dollars in business In 2010 it did 67 billion dollars in business so what's the tremendous drop in business is only because there was a spike in five, six and seven because of the economy going up. The economy goes down. Postmaster General Patrick O'Donohue negotiated with the Union in April. In July he was going to Congress and saying we have to pass laws to break this contract

1:27:06 What happened between April and July? Absolutely nothing. If Donahoe did this contract which was attacked by ISIL, it was so bad why is Donahoe in his job now he should have been fired what about the effect of email on the post office well obviously there's some kind of effect from email that's true but in 2006 was the biggest volume that the post office ever handled in its 236 year history. Explain the scam, John Well, ICE is somehow behind it and because he's the spokeshole for the anti-post office operations. I think it's either Federal Express or a combination of Federal Express and UPS trying to steal their business They did this exact same thing in Gitmo Nation lowlands And they private so... In fact, I remember talking about this and this was in 2008 probably where they did a survey

1:28:06 And one of the industry experts they brought in to actually run the survey, run the investigation was the CEO of TNT. The commercial postal service in the Netherlands and TNT is pretty big actually and he said well it won't work now we got a privatize that and boom who gets the contract? TNT And they're now running the postal service. Yeah, it's a... This is an out and out scam! How is that going to work for our stamp rates? Oh we were instead of paying 44 cents to send in a mail you know any mail of course there'll be a lot of propaganda that the mail gets lost when it really doesn't but instead of spending forty four cents it will probably be like two dollars

1:28:54 per letter and up it's gonna destroy all direct mail marketing period because no one can afford this these kind of rates. It's just going to be a, it's an opportunity for these companies UPS United Parcel and Federal Express to make a ton of money on the backs of the American public and this is Post Office is guaranteed in the Constitution. I think there's something else going on, an additional piece to this We know that the current USPS United States Postal Service is being commissioned to spy on people and I think there are some more great groovy contracts for whoever takes over the postal system because you know the postmaster general has a they got like police powers

1:29:45 It's very powerful stuff. I think that there are some extra benefit contracts in there for Homeland Security and whoever is delivering your post will also be checking you out, bitch! Yeah? That makes sense. That would be good and also you can probably run scams because the post office when you run a scam through the post office, you know some sort of a ripoff. You can get indicted as felt it has a felony actually probably run scams through FedEx and get away with it I mean the whole thing is this this is the scam and at the public seems to be they're being taken in by this I mean except for this one report on democracy now with a union guy complaining but the fact that matters is not covered by mainstream at all. You said it again

1:30:34 Fact of the matter. Sorry, it's okay you should talk bit every time I do it Yeah well But as you explained to have what was my I had another one early like a couple years ago somebody kept pointing out To me I kept saying and now we go through phases like this don't worry about it there was There you pointed out on the previous show That the reason why they have no money is because they had to pre-pay 70 billion dollars in pensions No 75 years whatever Yeah, big difference. You have to look at that bill that I'm sure ISIS is behind it. This ISA guy is a bad actor here. Oh yeah well ISA is actually behind the big investigation going on now that is also

1:31:24 being underreported although I think the president did address it briefly in a backward way and I Think lied to the American public, and it will come back It'll be on the wrong side of history on this one. This fast and furious which we reported on months ago is As it was just brewing so now apparently Eric Holder the Attorney General In congressional testimony under oath said yeah this fast and furious thing I heard about only a few weeks ago And it turns out CBS News reporter uncovered a memo then you have to always be if CBS has been on this from the get-go. I remember we played the CBS report which that thought was actually pretty good They've been all over this

1:32:05 And it may be because CBS is just co-opted by some group, who knows? ABC is not on this story. They uncovered a memo in 2010 that specifically addressed the Fast and Furious program by name, sent to Attorney General Eric Holder who then says, well you know it was like a memo I wasn't reading it. And of course this is all under Freedom of Information Act CBS sued to get this The whole page is black except for one or two sentences that actually says fast and furious I got a clip from the Laura Ingraham show and she had this reporter on the phone.

1:32:46 And so she's been badgering the Department of Justice and the White House who brought in this Shultz guy to basically do crisis management on this very issue, Fast & Furious. And here was her experience when she was trying to get some quotes out of Department of Justice and the White House on the Attorney General's knowledge of this program which wound up an American fed gun killed a Border Patrol agent, but I think probably drugs are being run in the opposite direction. There's a lot of crap in this and as I said earlier, I think this is Obama's Watergate. Here's the response she got. Further that they won't go... They will never go on their record with some sort of firm answer to these questions they just sort of float these explanations out there And I thought it was interesting that the DOJ press

1:33:34 press person would not put anything in writing yesterday for me and now wants to argue the point as to what had been said on the phone and what should have been said in my report. Well, that's why I want it in writing so they can't come back later and claim things were said that weren't said." So they were literally screaming at you? Yes, well the DOJ woman was just yelling at me. A guy from the White House on Friday night literally screamed at me. Who is that person? Who's the person at Justice screaming? Eric Schultz. The person screaming was Tracy Schmaller she was yelling not screaming and the person who screamed at me was Eric Schultz of the White House Screaming at her you imagine that Wow screaming and if you uh... if you uh...

1:34:21 If you look up Eric Schultz, let me just do that right now. Pretty interesting background of course You get the football guy Eric Schultz. Eric Schultz White House I thought i saved a link about this guy but he was brought in recently and he's... boy I'll have to look that up for ya But he literally was brought in as a special counsel or something to do damage control on this. So they're freaking out and this I think, remember the White House insider from Olsterman that I was all over? He said in his earlier reports he said look there's a big scandal brewing and there is a memo out there and I think this might have been what he was referring too And i think this whole White House... The whole thing has just fallen apart It's completely falling apart at the seams Look at our president The guy looks deflated

1:35:25 Not only that, he looks haggard and hasn't even taken the time to dye his hair. I mean he's really grey last time i saw him Even uh... the morning Joe Shiels were talking about it Exactly what happened in September of 1967 but i will guarantee you nobody in september, what is today? Nobody on september 19th 1967 ever dreamed in a million years that six months later lyndon johnson would announce to the country on march the thirtieth that he was not running for re-election six months is a lifetime what mcmillan saying politics so weak as a lifetime six months in a lifetime if these numbers keep going down is there any possibility that this president decides to step down this is what we've been predicting all along and now you know and and and

1:36:24 What's not helping the president is Lady Obama racking up the bill on these trips of hers. There's now somebody, apparently somebody has dug into the Freedom of Information Act to get the numbers on her trip to Africa where she loaded up Air Force One with a bunch... No no it was C-132 it wasn't Air Force One Okay well it was a C-132 which is not a cheap plane to fly! It's like $16,000 an hour just to fly it Yeah, and it's like a long trip. She flew it with a bunch of her friends and family to Africa in the bill. And supposedly when you're taking government joyrides that are not business... apparently she claims that she did some business but it wasn't even... She visited Nelson Mandela's museum or something? Yeah but the fact of the...

1:37:16 The fact is, she was on vacation with her friends and their spouse to reinforce the government. And her family! But they were listed...the two girls and there was like three or four other family members I think were listed as senior officials On the manifest. It's some senior officials here I got but that's been reported everywhere and in all honesty And this goes on and on she does he's constantly wasting yeah, but Laura Bush did that too She went to Africa all the time But I like this one better because I'm always you know it's amazing how many new appointments the this administration is making

1:38:01 And so every single day there's a new appointment, and new appointment, and new person. It's like they're churning through people like crazy White House announces new chief- Are you still there? I have to... What are ya doing? Hello! Hello hello hello hello! Hello?! Okay i'm back You're back So they're chu- I was saying that The White House is churning through staff An this one came out White House announces new Chief Usher Now do you know what the Chief Usher does You see the one that says, ladies and gentlemen the president of the United States. No incorrect I like doing it no the uh i'm actually going to bring up the official white house page the press page and i'll give you the definition of what the usher does

1:38:50 As Chief Usher, Reed is her name Angela Reed will be responsible for overseeing all aspects of the operations and activities within the executive residence. What's the matter darling? Hey! Right on. Does she already have a staff of about 25 people? So, yes so the executive residence and the executive residence grounds among her many responsibilities Reed will oversee management of the executive residence to ensure activities and resources of the human kind I'm sure are used efficiently and effectively now let's look at Angela Reeds curriculum

1:39:28 Angela Reid currently is general manager at the Ritz-Carlton. If I'm gonna have anyone come in and take care of my house, I want it to be the bitch who's running the Ritz okay? That's what i want! The Ritz Carlton! Are you kidding me?! Now one day after Michelle Obama... And now we know it remember what Michelle Obama was wearing when she was in Target Yeah It was like a flowery leather layered type dress yeah

1:40:04 One day later, hot on the heels of its sellout Misani collection Target's newest fashion partner has been revealed to be Jason Wu. Jason Wu is Michelle Obama's favorite designer in fact he designed her inauguration dress and she was wearing a Jason Wu in Target this whole thing was a promotion! Yeah, didn't we call it when they when we first saw? We suspected it was. We thought it was a Target promotion but we didn't know is a Jason Wu designer target promotion. She's gonna need a job once she gets out of this other one That's great! I love it good job. It's corrupt This operation is totally corrupt yeah uh-huh Yeah the whole operation

1:40:54 I still, you know someone needs to do some crap on this Valerie Jarrett woman. She's the one that's... she is the evil one You know i don't like her. Yeah there something about her. She's the handler and she's keeping the president right. She probably sticking him full of drugs. I don't what going on? They think he would have given up if it wasn't for her. We gotta be..she's the one It's possible Obama has a whole family living in the White House Mother-in-law brother-in-law Yeah they got everybody in there What's up with that Yeah, so I've got a second century. So we've got a clip here that you want to talk about before we get into thanking some of our donors for this program? Yeah actually there's two clips but before we play that one that says the pre donor clip because i have to set that one up...I want to play a clip and this is just this was a clip off the PBS NewsHour

1:41:51 that they roll out all these commercials during the news hour and they do this commercial for Chevron with dun-da-duh, da-dah. They got this music, very noticeable music but they've added a twist! They've added a new factoid to their little propaganda and I wanna see...I don't know if you can spot it but i want to see if you can spot they've added there's a sudden emergence of a new kind of mini meme Because we have talked about this year at least two years ago, but play the clip that's called twist new to is that what yet? There was Ted on tonight's news hour major funding for the PBS NewsHour has been provided by Okay listen

1:42:36 Somebody has got to get serious. We need renewable energy. Renewable energy is vital to our planet! You hear about alternatives, right? Wind... solar... algae I think it's gotta work on a big scale and it's gotta be affordable So where are they? It has to work in the real world At Chevron we're investing millions into solar and biofuel technologies to make them work We've gotta get on this now Right now Well, obviously they're using kind of the reality format. Did you notice anything? Because this commercial has been running for a long time and this is the first time at least I noticed them dropping in algae Yeah, I did hear algae

1:43:23 I wonder what that's all about. Well, there's probably remember we had the guy that was on this is a clip This was a long time ago where the clip of the guy says The algae car I remember that. He drove a car from California to St Louis on algae! Yeah, I remember that yeah So I guess this could come back into play or something. Do you think that there will be a negative story on PBS about algae or about Chevron? No. That is a crock of crap, you mean? That we're going to suddenly... Algae's gonna be a new source of energy? I don't think so i don't think so and that is a good seat telling me obama's not systematically look great but no one of the six million dollars in implying that he was just making an analogy there was some so offensive that they voted on markets being voted off by guests that's because it's all about commerce and they can rocked the boat over their lives for god sakes ladies gotta be whacked bed don't take it seriously had its sister at the fiscal decision you slipped up

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2:00:03 Uh, yeah. No I do know that. In fact, uh...I think it's another woman right? No! Correct! It is not. Is Gary Nell- Oh, I guess I don't know this guy Yeah well um so of course the headline reads Gary Nell K-N-E-L-L President and CEO of Sesame Workshop Producers of Sesame Street Educational Children's TV Show Has been named the new CEO and president Of NPR And of course that, you know everyone's like oh Elmo is no... Big Bird. But if you actually look down a little bit and find out who this guy is This is the guy who very much like uh Who's the Hummer woman from The New York Times? Yeah, the editor-in-chief Yeah what's her name I don't know Uh Hummer

2:00:47 These are the people that determine the news. So this guy is, he's the new guy, Vivian Schiller was a woman who got kicked out Let's look at his resume shall we? Gary Nell member of the Council on Foreign Relations and US National Commission for UNESCO serves as director of executive search firm Hydric & Struggles is on the board of governors of the National Geographic Education Foundation and board member of AARP services who I'm sure will be advertising a lot. The Jacob Burns Film Center, and save the children! He's a counsel on foreign relations shill Yeah? Well behind the look- Oh wait let me get this straight You're stunned by this I am completely stunned I can't believe they brought a shill like that in

2:01:36 Yeah. Been tracking the vaccine news, and as we all know we've been tracking this for years knowing that it's much more cost effective in fact it's a bonanza to give medicine to people who aren't sick yet um... This is great So we've been following Alzheimer's for a while and of course it has been in the news, and we have got the PR firms coming out with all kinds of studies. They tried to hype it up a bit to get Lipitor repatented as an Alzheimer drug because apparently cholesterol or something like that causes Alzheimer's. New study John! New study! We have new study out there gentlemen. Breaking News! Would you believe that Alzheimer may be transmissible?

2:02:25 It turns out it may be a virus. Oh, there you go! So is that a setup for a vaccine or what? Apparently... In the study and then whenever there's a study your alert signal should be slammed in the right-hand corner The needle should be hitting in red In the study mice injected with human brain tissue from Alzheimer's patients developed Alzheimer's disease. Yeah, you're injecting brain tissue into mice The mice developed brain damage characteristic of Alzheimer's disease and over time the damage spread throughout their brains So it's transmissible they're saying so yeah Somebody's brain I think I think those messages don't eat brains This is not a good idea

2:03:09 Now, one of the interesting laws in Gitmo Nation of these United States is that by law you cannot sue the pharmaceutical companies if something goes wrong with a vaccine and they set this up on the verge of rolling out swine flu and all this stuff. Yeah for obvious reasons because the entire Congress in our whole government is in the pocket of the pharmacies, pharmaceutical companies I'm sorry So this is not the case in Finland I got this from our Wonderhelm producer up there in the Gitmo nation of reindeer Pandemrix victims will be receiving compensation. Remember that Pandemrix swine flu vaccine, 92 people have so far notified the insurance pool because they almost had narcolepsy and this has now been confirmed around the world there is a link between the Pandemrix swine flu vaccine and narcolepsy and they're going to be paid out

2:04:11 And after the 30 million euro fund for compensation is exhausted, the state will take responsibility for funding more payouts. Huh? How come they get paid out we get nothing! Well they don't have that sorry ass law on the books like we do So we got suckered Yeah you think wait a minute You're stunned We should look at the congressmen and senators who voted for this law We should. Why do these people not get voted out? We need to put up a website that calls out these guys, I mean like this ISA. Yeah well this is the whole problem with Occupy Wall Street is you're occupying the wrong space yeah You've got to vote people out of office, you've gotta call for regime change, you gotta ask for the dictator who's killing his own people which is the truth

2:04:59 Legal or illegal or whatever, our president ordered an American citizen to be killed and killed two in one go. So it's the same thing... Killed two Americans with a drone on purpose! On purpose! And he threatened the Jonas Brothers I mean let's be honest that you know that's assault you have assault and battery That's egregious right there No batteries just uh... It was verbal assault. It's part 1 of assault and battery You know we're being screwed then we should have no fly zone Yeah, we need a no-fly zone over this country. As we know the... Let me finish up with the vaccines go as we know and this was promised Gitmo Nation East of United Kingdom is on the verge of choosing The HPV vaccine and I actually heard this story I think mentioned on Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged

2:05:48 And we were warned, remember I got the note from the Minister of Parliament from one of his human resources. He said look don't tell anyone you got this from but it looks like there's a beauty contest going on look for some PR from both two competing firms to get the big government contract and they bring it out again oral sex may cause more throat cancer than smoking in men say researchers Researchers, so this is all to get Gardasil approved because it actually takes care of vaginal warts Which is part of you get that I guess you get a vaginal wart in your throat or something like that It's all PR. It's all PR to get the big contract and then finally in the United States of Europe study shows 38 point two percent of the European Union populace

2:06:38 has mental problems. Well, you can see why! And they need to have proper treatment. Oh yeah... That's a good one. ...and they need to have proper treatment Yeah I mean it is so coming It is so coming Here it is slaves Just take your meds So I picked up a clip when, I don't know why i'm picking up so many of these clips where you're just looking for the one death. Uh-huh

2:07:19 So I didn't realize, Donald Rumsfeld has been pushing his idiotic book. Is he still out doing that? Yeah but the last place he did it was on Al Jazeera where a guy asked him a simple question apparently didn't cover in the book and Rumsfeld got completely bent out of shape and felt like he was being intimidated and the guy was yelling at him and he wasn't And meanwhile this woman Huddy Which I've mispronounced. Huddy, who's one of the shills on Fox. She defends Rumsfeld and then she drops in a little factoid that i was totally unaware of! Rumsfeld thought he was on Fox & Friends? They're gonna crank up some numbers you never heard about and give it to ya

2:08:01 But the interviewer wasn't yelling at him, I didn't see that. No it got testy and the interviewer was totally disrespectful Look you're sitting there talking to somebody who is a leader of our country And he was essentially calling Rumsfeld a liar The leader of our country eh? Yeah! Apparently she's talking to the leader of our country That's right well she knows what she's talking about She knows which side her bread is buttered The leader of our country Huh how does that work I don't know. That's the kind of news you get on Fox. One of the great analysts! No wonder i don't watch that. I do. Yeah, well someone has to and I think it's really good that you do actually so when to catch these little

2:08:49 I don't know, maybe she thought he was the president. I have no idea what she was thinking when she said that And notice O'Reilly didn't go like... Hey! No, O'Reilly is so self-absorbed i've only seen him catch gaffes rarely once in a while he does but it's... Shadow Puppet Theater A new government formed in Haiti It's done finally Gary Connill He's in of course just to remind you United Nations Development Specialist and aide to Bill Clinton ratified by the Haitian Senate after a debate. Wait, wait, to Bill Clinton? Yes! What?! Yeah... Wait let me get this straight The new head of Haiti? The Prime Minister yes. Prime minister yeah Well no we have the president who was elected you know he's in the band Sweet Nicki Martelly and this guy And the prime minister effectively has more power

2:09:47 And he was Bill Clinton's aide. Oh, by the way whatever happened to all that money Bill Clinton collected for Haiti? That billions of dollars? For some reason we just haven't seen it you know We just need cash How can we stop talking about it when nobody is even mentioning it anymore Just send your cash Well because there are more important things going on You know like Sarah Palin not running for president There are all kinds of stuff And I think it is good to remind people about this because you got duped. You got duped into all the tears and the sadness, and the texting money, billions from around the world... Bill Clinton stole it! He stole it! Where's that money? It's not in Haiti

2:10:39 and then he puts his guy in. Maybe now the funds will be released, do you think that would be a way to do it? Well they're going to be released eventually but we predicted this from the get-go it's gonna be released on the north shore in a series of fantastic hotels! I mean why should Mexico cancoon in these places and get all the business, get all the tourists yeah exactly by the way it's inconvenient if you're on the east coast like even in Florida and it's a really short trip to Haiti So go to Haiti and live it up instead of going to Cancun, and Mexico has a lot of problems. There's drug lords shooting people... Yeah! And in Haiti now you know they're making nice baskets uh there's a lot of good art there yeah oh yeah that's the one place they restored is the Art Fair. Yeah no is good work good work Bill douchebag so there's a big party on October 15th we love to read through these invites Chelsea Clinton

2:11:33 and her husband Mark Mezvinsky are throwing a bash for President Clinton, former president Clinton. A decade of difference concert at the Hollywood Bowl! Now we just have to... it's just funny to read through this for his 65th birthday gala at the Hollywood Palladium where Stevie Nicks and special guests will be performing but at the Hollywood Bowl Lady Gaga The Edge and Bono, Usher and more special guests. And for $25,000 John we could have an all-star weekend experience under their VIP week... This is a scam this is! So they're selling these packages to this event

2:12:22 For $25,000 you get the all-star weekend experience includes two preferred seats at President Clinton's 65th birthday gala and two preferred VIP tickets to the Hollywood Bowl concert. Of course if you just want to attend the gala at 6,500 per couple John I think you and I are a couple so we could go If you want preferred seating at the Hollywood Bowl. The diamond ticket is $5,000 a person platinum 2,500 and the gold ticket is a 1,000 but but but but if you You really want to join the host committee for five hundred thousand dollars to a million dollars So 500,000 as a co-chair

2:13:07 Or you can be a chair. You can be a chair! Can someone sit on me? For 1 million dollars, you get to attend the VIP sound check on Friday Yeah I want to hear Lady Gaga's sound checking The sound check?! That's worth a million bucks to me Testing... One one one one two two two Check 2-2 Soundcheck. You're a chair and someone sits on you during the sound check, but you also get to attend a brunch hosted by Chelsea and a presidential golf outing with the president on Sunday. And you get a million dollars? Yeah yeah yeah and you got official... Better get more than that! ...and you got official host committee recognition

2:13:56 So we should, I think we do these once in a while. These kind of deconstructing these invites We need to do a follow-up on this one and see who the douchebags are that became the committee members The chair! Wanna see who the chair is? We gotta find out who it is Now I heard from... now who was telling me this A friend of ours does makeup for douchebag women in Los Angeles. And she works for a big expensive store and when people are in town they often call up the store and they say, you know send the makeup artist over. She was sent over to do Chelsea Clinton. Her mom was there and her husband was there and she said Adam it's unbelievable

2:14:45 Chelsea Clinton is going to be running for some type of office and this is why she's doing this Why now all sudden she's hosting all of this stuff This is basically a fundraiser for her or at least to get her attention Because she wants to go into politics just like your mom and she is running She I don't know what but she will be running for office put that in the book not as a prediction, but as a prediction Yeah How awesome is that? That's a good catch. And another clippity-clop? It makes sense! Yeah, I love it and so the people who are the douchebags who cough up this kind of money They get on the mailing list yeah they got on the mailing list and we get to see who they are mm-hmm if their published that i wonder if they could keep it a secret We should look

2:15:44 I am looking, Hayden is the guy. Former NSA CIA director Michael Hayden He apparently was in the National Intelligence Committee he was talking about how we have to have more eavesdropping on networks in order to defend against malicious activity from nation states and others And this what I'll be doing after the show looking at the rerun of that on C-SPAN I did see a job on USA Jobs, someone sent me this. Positions under the supervision of the Director and Deputy Director Public Diplomacy Training Division School of Professional Area Studies

2:16:30 As an expert in social media platforms, including monitoring methods evaluation and analytics tools and strategic planning interactive technologies course design and knowledge management the incumbent of this position is responsible for the performance duties involved in carrying out the functional responsibilities of The Division. And this is from USAJOBS.gov Let me give you the title of this job They're hiring techno experts Job title social media and technology specialist instructor For the Department of State. So this is Hillary is hiring full-time term appointment renewable at the option of the agency promotion potential 13 whatever that means

2:17:18 GS13 is the highest you can go. Yeah, $74000? Oh no! Up to 115 thousand. Wow! What's GS 13? Maybe I should get that job. If you can tweet then you could make 115 thousand bucks a year apparently. Citizenship is required. Must be able to obtain and maintain a secret security clearance Incumbent will be subject to random drug testing and have one year trial period Very interesting if you're looking for this and by the way, this is a teaching position So I would be great to have one of our tech our own techno experts in this job to slip in some stuff Social media and technology specialist instructor from monitoring social networks. Yeah That's that ticket baby love that give my nation east as we whip around the horn

2:18:17 Uh, at Both, Both Rail Station. Full naked body scanner! Congratulations on ya'. Where's this? In uh, Both in the UK Seven foot body scanner that you have to walk through before getting on the train Before getting on a what?! On the train Really Yes So they're X-ranked train customers in... Yes Yes Both England In Both yes yeah Why!? Because there are terrorists there There's no terrorists there. Yeah, there are! Terrorists in Both! Both. Both terrorists... In Gitmo Nation Brussels sprouts bad news 506 people are still waiting for their Gitmo nation jewelry as they have been over 500 people and this is from Baron Steven von Pelsmachers have been waiting for a GPS bracelet an anklet

2:19:21 Lindsay Lohan jewelry. Apparently they can't make them fast enough. Gitmo Nation Lowlands, they've got the alcohol interlock It's done it's in starting December if you get caught drinking or if you get caught just with keys in your hands on the way to your car You'll get a device installed which you have to pay for Which will uh... you know your car won't start unless you blow into it Blow my car On the upside, shoes on screening begins this week at four US airports in Miami Dallas Detroit and Atlanta. Yeah you have to go through a pre-clearance though yeah it's the pre check it's the scam. You still have to go through the naked body scanner but you can keep your shoes on

2:20:14 Yeah, that's the big joke of it. It's a joke what difference does it make? I know it's not a big deal to take your shoes off by the way we both opted out at LAX going to Austin. I have to say they're very courteous not a problem and did not touch my... Did not go to full resistance Just give it a go on and on but the back of the hand Yeah, when about the back of the hand the back of the hand the back of the head This is okay. I'm gonna go up to pant legs till I feel resistance Well, you know, I didn't feel no resistance and make me Mickey didn't either should I didn't get no resistance Now on the way back from Austin that Austin's not having that crap

2:20:55 It's like it was almost like old times. This is just a little line set up, everyone's whipping through one magnetometer boom-boom all the way through done real fast Austin having none of that crap didn't they sue or something? I don't know yeah there's a lot of air I run into airports here and there when I came back from Brazil there wasn't anything like that nothing good I liked it And then they dropped us off in New York, which then it was a long line to get through customs and then you had to recheck in. There was no scanner there...in New York City. Good good. On the way out there was this scanner thing but I just didn't even opt-out! I just went over to the magnetometer and walked through it nobody said anything yeah that was odd well the whole thing is as we know it's a scam It's a scam? Yeah

2:21:54 Someone alerted me to this and I didn't know that this was actually taking place. And of course, I wouldn't know seeing as my vehicles are both from 1999 Did you know that all new cars sold in California and I believe it's now rolling out to other states in the Union have to have... We've talked about this The global warming score? Oh no! I didn't know that thought you were talking about black boxes No There's a global warming score on the car? Yes! It literally has a global warming score and there is number next to it. I didn't know this... Yeah

2:22:35 I have to go to a car dealer now and see check this out. So greenhouse gases emitted from vehicles include carbon dioxide, methane nitrous oxide and hydrofluorocarbons from air conditioner refrigerant the sum of all these greenhouse gas emissions are identified as the CO2 equivalent value which is used to determine a vehicle's global warming score how the global warming score is determined these are government documents by the way John so The Global Warming Score is based on emissions data from ARB's Motor Vehicle Greenhouse Gas Emissions Regulation, known as AB 1493 or PAVLI. The greenhouse gas regulation establishes a CO2 equivalent value that includes all the various global warming gases based on their relative contribution to global warming." This is bogus! So it said as follows, the Global Warming

2:23:32 score is CO2 plus 296 times N20 plus 23 times CH4 minus AC direct emissions allowance, minus AC indirect emissions allowance. And if you can calculate that then you have the global warming score I did just slap in a number on this shit. Someone sent me a picture of the car that has a global warming score of 7 and I don't even know if it's good or not Yeah, is it good or bad? But how crazy is that that's dumb the science is in on that huh no yeah I would say Wow. Well. I can't top that all right One day I have two odd because we can push off till Sunday if you want to do one I'm cool with that if you wanna just roll one out I got Let's do the one that's kind of the funnier than to I mean actually let's do the one That's more of an ask Adam thing okay Which is that

2:24:27 The question remains, I don't know why but this is starting to show up as a meme which is to re-think the 80's as some great era. And this is kind of your era? So I was going to ask you Is that where the 80s great because these guys seem to think so you can play this was from Good Morning America I believe are the great things that the magazine did and We're a family program after all and we don't want no fines levied this way, but yeah, it's working take a look to me great Alright, more 80s now. The big reason we believe that the 80's were just so addictive is in fact the music We all remember singing along to those catchy tunes often by groups who ruled the charts one week and then where'd they go? So we have brought back another treasure of the 80s The mixtape for one more look at the One Hit Wonder Those infectious beats Don't turn around The cowbell

2:25:35 Just what exactly is it about 80s music that makes us do this? And what exactly defines the 80s? Ask Adam. Ask Adam. Yeah! So they, just by the way this feature I recorded it and I recorded it every... It was a good 10 to 15 minutes of clips claiming that for one thing the eighties were The 80s were the era of the one-hit wonders when in fact I don't care what genre, what era you're talking about it's always especially the 50s. One hit wonders is like this theme of all music it seems to me from every era 60s 70s 80s 90s one hit wonder one hit wonder so you tell me where the eighties that great and your opinion compared to like a more creative seventies?

2:26:34 First of all, I'm looking for the movie. There's got to be a movie tie-in somewhere there's got to be some promotion There's gotta be a movie coming out so someone will probably find that and send it to me So unfortunately I wasn't of sex-having age in the 70s. I hear the 70's was great for sex and everyone, you know we didn't have AIDS We're just all screwing around like hey take her thanks You know like oh hey what your name? Fred. Oh that's cool whatever Exactly! So from my bi-curiousness I think there probably wouldn't be been a great time to be alive Could this be related to Footloose perhaps maybe because they're bringing back Footloose

2:27:17 The movie? Maybe, it's a possibility. I think you're right with the movie thing though. Yeah so it was probably that. Who else would bring up this thesis? And then Milk, It wasn't like they just had a little quick hit on this This went on and on and on with... You know, it was unbelievable actually how long it went Everything is a movie. So... I don't even know why I brought it up Well the crazy thing was in the middle of the 80s like 87 I was so oblivious to what was going on around me and of course it was great, you know. I was at MTV rocking it out when we had the biggest crash on Wall Street in October 1987 and I didn't give a crap! Didn't affect me in the slightest bit

2:27:56 At all. Yeah, and wasn't there was it wasn't the economy all shot to hell then in the 80s? No no that was just a one-shot deal that 87 crash but then the 90 started I remember the 90's at very beginning of the 90s I remember sitting watching television with my just born daughter and It was the Gulf War 1 Right and so in that respect in that regard the 80s was probably better because That's stupid. It's a promotion we just need to figure out what it's for yeah, you're right There's nothing to do anything even bother deconstructing if we just did yeah, it's it's a movie promotion That's what it is We just have to figure out four but I think footloose that was from the chat room. I think that's probably a reasonable assumption

2:28:41 So I ran into, just as a last little thing here. We were watching television and we talk about Jeff Smith and the jingles an all this...I was stunned to run into a jingle for a company in the Salinas Valley called Classic Drains and Plumbing which was like, it was either a Jeff Smith jingle or whatever but I've never seen in my life and I didn't think it was...I was like stunned by this. I didn't think that it was necessarily effective but I've never heard of plumbing company with a song.

2:29:22 Three generations raising up sons and daughters To make sure your plumbing isn't working or unburned Generations of plumbers, plastic drains and plumbing Plastic drains and plumbing yeah, well you know that stuff stays with you. It's just genius Jeff Smith should be the weirdest thing You've ever heard no because we have a we've got a flooring company in Los Angeles that has a jingle Empire today

2:30:01 You know we've got the flooring company with Empire. The jingles are great people don't realize it Jeff Smith should be a billionaire Yeah and the funny thing is he works cheap Yeah, well yeah. It's true! No jingle riders if you can find them for the problem with getting a jingle like this one or any one of them first you got to find the Jingle Rider and they're not that easy to find that's the problem and then they cranked his stuff out it's like right off the top of their heads and so there is a day rate it doesn't take months to do one of these Right So I would recommend people go to Jeff Smith and give him some work

2:30:38 Yeah, Sir Jeff Smith. G-E-O-F-F That's exactly the ticket Alright Wow we rocked through two and a half hours there John Good Yeah it was good Hey thanks everyone for the support of the show I didn't check on our $10 donations How did we do on that? Oh yeah Let's see See I forgot to ask last show So if you sat through this on the live stream No it's down see And you thought there was some value Go right now to Dvorak.org slash NA and hit the PayPal button and fill in your $10 amount, but more is welcome! And all things considered... The fact of the matter is we need help. Keep us on the air everybody. Thank you so much thank you for listening Countdown has begun less than six weeks till we move to Austin

2:31:33 Coming to you now from the hilltop watchtower crackpot command center and get more nation west the People's Republic of Southern California I'm Adam curry and from stormy northern Silicon Valley We're oracles in town taking up all the spaces in rooms in San Francisco. It's kind of amazing. I'm John C Dvorak we will talk to you again on Sunday right here on no agenda Now we learn that the foreign minister insists on having golden business cards. This despite the fact that using gold on business cards breaks treasury board rules because it's too expensive

2:32:22 Why is the minister breaking government rules? Why is he giving taxpayers the gold finger. This a very expensive game of you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours When Canadians are struggling just to get by, why are Conservative ministers showering each other with gold? Why the golden showers Mr Speaker Mitt needs to get a position and stick with it. I mean he's flipping more than that great movie star flipper.