Episode 337 · Thursday, 8 September 2011

Constitutional Values

A rhetorical shift at Homeland Security signals a new era of governance as global markets pivot toward the Yuan and missing Libyan missiles trigger international alarms.

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About this episode

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano is under fire for a linguistic shift that replaces constitutional rights with values. This rhetorical pivot coincides with the 10th anniversary of the September 11th attacks, as the TSA implements confusing new opt-out protocols at airports like Seattle-Tacoma. While the Metropolitan Transportation Authority aggressively trademarks the See Something Say Something slogan, officials warn of lone wolf threats based on intelligence recovered from the Osama bin Laden raid.

In the Republican primary, Ron Paul challenged Bill O'Reilly on the constitutional status of gold and silver while warning that border fences could eventually be used to keep American capital from fleeing economic instability. Meanwhile, Texas Governor Rick Perry faces scrutiny over his Gardasil executive order, and Newt Gingrich claims the DHS was originally designed to survive three simultaneous nuclear strikes. Globally, the Central Bank of Nigeria is shifting foreign reserves into the Chinese Yuan, and Human Rights Watch reports that 20,000 surface-to-air missiles have vanished from Libyan stockpiles.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the McDonald's Peace Theory against the lack of franchises in Syria and Libya. The duo also explores the Museum of Obsolete Objects, a propaganda campaign by Hill & Knowlton that labels incandescent bulbs and traditional radios as relics of the past. A special knighting ceremony honors Sir Nico DeHaan for his support of the value-for-value model.


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CHAPTER 01 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 337 Introduction, September 11th Media Coverage

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open No Agenda episode 337 on September 8, 2011. They criticize mainstream media outlets, including the New York Times and Time Magazine, for profiting from the upcoming 10th anniversary of the September 11th attacks by publishing "never before seen" photos and audio. The hosts also promote the search functionality of the show's notes website.

adam curry· john c dvorak· no agenda· new york times· time magazine· september 11th

00:00 Everyone else was watching the Kardashians. That's what Americans do. Yeah, I mean but- How was that by the way? Was it a good show? Adam Curry John C Dvorak It's Thursday September 8th, 2011. Time to get my nation media assassination episode 337! This is no agenda Enjoying the view from here of the United States of Europe From the hilltop watchtower crackpot command center in the People's Republic of Southern California In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And for Northern Silicon Valley where the traffic is backing up I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crack Bob and Boss Kill In the mornin' Hey hey hey

00:38 I think it was September 11th. Yeah, yeah...I know It's douchebaggery i tell you everyone is out promoting a book promoting a scanner promoting some kind of security device really bad really really bad and just the mainstream media just profiting off of it left and right front page of the New York Times this morning. Right hand, first there's a picture of the guys in debate but then main story is... The whole building just came apart! Vivid view of 9-11 attacks in real time from newly published audio files. He also saw Time Magazine was publishing never before seen pictures! What?

01:24 You're telling me years later? Yeah, it's a photographer who has had him on his website for like 10 years but I guess never before published in Time magazine perhaps. It's just like really that wow thanks guys and it's a picture of... The whole the entire paper today was extra large and the entire Thursday styles a whole section The whole front page is a bond forged in tragedy and there's picture after picture how it started on September 11, 2001. You know these guys were the ones who were always moaning about how the Bush administration was exploiting September 11th too much yeah. WTC 7 won't go away! I found it

02:07 Actually one of our producers re-sent it to me. That's the great thing about this show It's like nothing is lost ever Yeah, exactly exactly although people please try and use search dot NA show notes calm a little more because I'm always getting emails people saying hey that clip of you know this matter And then I say well Let me just google that for you ie search dot na show notes comment it always comes up immediately so easy to find Somebody asked me something the other day one of our producers and it was just like I just googled it exactly his question. I put the question in Google and then just gave him the google link Yeah, which you which comes up as a google search? Well, you know that you know the website right let me Google that for you

02:53 No. Yeah, I think it's LMGTFY.com let me google that for you and it takes you to... Let Me Google That For You so that's the link I often send back LMGTFY.com It's funny! It is very funny So in the morning to Jean-Claude In the morning to you and in the morning all ships at sea feet on the air boots on the ground and subs in the ocean And let's not forget that bakers in the kitchen, and of course our human resources who once again Vigilantly are all standing by in our chat room a no agenda chat net no agenda stream calm with the website soon-to-be revamped I saw A new version of that our producers hard at work on creating. Yeah, I think that's NAG radio comm

CHAPTER 02 / 44 Discussion

Dental Procedure Costs, Insurance Gouging Anecdote

A personal account describes the loss of a dental crown and a subsequent $3,000 bill for a root canal and deep cleaning after insurance. The narrative criticizes the dental industry for price gouging insurance companies, which in turn raises costs for individuals. There is a brief mention of the lack of benefits provided by the company Meveo.

dental insurance· root canal· meveo· healthcare costs· single payer

03:42 They're working on new stuff. It's beautiful it's a beautiful thing it's a beautiful model we've created and Very proud of all the work that everybody is doing so I'm I'm little pissed for number well, no I'm really pissed just for number reasons But I kind of missed some number of reasons yeah well for ya Reason number one my my feeling my crown fell out the last week of the Hot Pockets 2008 tour Fell out. Yeah, and and I just Was gone and that's one of those moments disappeared? Yeah It's one of those things we locked around in your mouth you didn't bite it or anything No, I was flossing and then like oh what's this gaping hole Wow What is this moon crater and the first thing you do is you look on the ground And then we never found it so I presume my swallow it. I don't know probably swallowed it in your sleep Oh

04:37 No, because I was flossing and it was there and then it wasn't there. It was weird but anyway hmm so I go to The dentist Go to the dentist that have this repaired now This is a is a problem tooth that I've had different dentists work on for like 10 years They've been you know they're sculpting reconstructing they're creating like entire You know works of art And there's only, like less than 30% of the tooth there and it had a root canal. They're like okay well let's take a look at this and then well you know looks we have to redo the root canal because it might be a little infected Well yeah of course because... No! Yeah thank you. Then of course I haven't had cleaning for a year. I just never get around to it. That was bad So they are going to do deep scale cleaning End of story after insurance

05:33 Which, and by the way my insurance is now gouged for the rest of my lifetime. I can't get insur... you know we have some kind of dental coverage at MeVeo which is the only thing that I get from them. Some kind is the right operative word? So it's $3,000 after insurance! $3000 dollars! Who has got that kinda money?! Well thats what I said they should have single payer Whatever it is just I mean this no, they shouldn't be ripping me off as what it is. Oh that's never gonna end It's just a what a ripoff. It's like you know really so I appreciate the guys doing some work there but $1900 for a root canal are you effing kidding? Me? It's just a dude for an hour issues dollars work Yeah, and he's good work if you can get yeah Yeah, I know I always wonder why us if it was done by the hour instead of by the procedure

06:34 Yeah. Of course, we should ask our... We have one of our knights as a dentist he could probably explain it to us Well I think the problem is that you know they because they're gouging the insurance companies which in turn are gouging us That's why that procedure has a $1900 fee and and that's what the insurance will pay for it but it's not like what Joe Schmoe schmuck podcaster Adam Curry can afford It's just anyway. I was in a very bad mood because of this besides the fact that it's gonna hurt women is Gonna Hurt well, it doesn't hurt now But they're not Because it doesn't hurt but they showed me the actually said show me the x-ray and they showed me where the infection was my own geez Get an affection well That's why they have to redo that reopen up the root canal. You know drill into my head and implant Maybe that's it They're gonna put a chip in there about time no

CHAPTER 03 / 44 Discussion

United States of Europe, Lisbon Treaty Centralization

European leaders including Angela Merkel and Gerhard Schroeder are reportedly using the term "United States of Europe" to describe the further centralization of power in Brussels. The discussion traces this development back to the Lisbon Treaty, which implemented political structures after the European Constitution failed. The hosts suggest this is a step toward a "One World Government" involving similar unions in Africa and Asia.

united states of europe· lisbon treaty· angela merkel· gerhard schroeder· brussels· european union

07:30 But that's not what I was really pissed at. I'm pissed that we've totally missed what has been happening, the big picture and... What have i been calling the Eurozone for years? What have I been calling it? The Eurozone No! I've always called it the United States of Europe Yeah And finally, the douchebag elites are calling it the United States of Europe. Oh when's this? This is now happening and all of a sudden it's like wow maybe these aren't states they're countries but that's another story But they're literally going to call it The United States Of Europe Literally That's what Merkel is now calling it Here Gerhard Schroeder Is calling it that And I've figured out

08:18 See, when we actually started this show around the time when I started checking out the Lisbon Treaty. And the Lisbon Treaty was what pulled the political aspects of Europe together after scamming everybody into thinking it was just about one single currency and then they created this you know this government is a European Parliament in Brussels and Luxembourg how crazy is that? Two different places And this Lisbon Treaty was implemented because they couldn't get the original document through, which was the European Constitution. Because no one wanted that! The constitution had like the national anthem and it had the flag and people were like hold on a second we don't want that

09:05 And then they slam this Lisbon Treaty through, even though it failed the first time because well the Netherlands said no. France said no Then they said we need a do-over and Britain was never allowed to vote on it even though there were promised to vote on it Then Ireland was the last one Ireland said No and they said Do over! And then Ireland of course said Yes and then we have this Lisbon Treaty but now what their calling for all of the finance ministers are saying yeah we need this They're saying that they need to have more power, more centralized power in Brussels. In fact, Heiko Hermann the President of the United States of Europe has now said you know what I am announcing that I am willing to continue as president of the United States of Europe

09:54 if we have more power, more economic power in Brussels. And of course this is exactly what was... We could've seen this happening! You know I'll bet you Hitler's rolling in his grave. Yeah he's pissed like saying hey it was that easy? Why did I have to kill people?! This was dumb!? Yeah you're right so you can just see it happen the only way out for because of course everyone's gonna be like whatever let's just stop the craziness we're all losing our shirts we're all paying for Greece and Italy and Spain and Portugal you do whatever. We don't care anymore, and then I'll have all the power to be centralized and congratulations your screwed! And there you have it United States of Europe United States of America which of course already is Canada

10:42 United States and Mexico, and all these treaties you see that we have all these deals with Canada. We know we're cutting all the deals with Mexico certainly economic deals then of course Libya Tunisia Egypt now that's gonna be the United States of Africa And then we get the United States of Asia, which is bound to happen. What does Japan? Japan's got to capitulate and then we have the Trilateral Commission above that and then we've got our one world government it is so close to happening I finally see it! And I can't believe we've been focused on all the smaller bits but the larger thing... It just came into view for me Time to shut down the show No man, were going down with this ship We're going all the way down

11:27 But it's just like, wow. Wow they're actually doing it! And people have been calling certainly me but maybe both of us crazy like nah there no new world order no new world government There is! It's happening right before your eyes and douchebags like Haiku Herman are gonna be leading it Yeah yeah well we'll see how long it takes you for that They tried to kill Farage once before so let's see what happens now We need to hear more from him. You know he's giving a bunch of speeches Yeah, I don't know It's been so hard to find stuff C-SPAN once again What is wrong with C-SPAN? C-SPAN was supposed to be about our government Now they're showing the British government

CHAPTER 04 / 44 Discussion

C-SPAN Coverage of British Parliamentary Hearings

Criticism is directed at C-SPAN for broadcasting British parliamentary committee hearings regarding the Rupert Murdoch phone hacking scandal. The argument is made that C-SPAN should focus exclusively on the United States government rather than international proceedings.

c-span· rupert murdoch· phone hacking scandal· british parliament· media criticism

12:14 You know, they're showing the committee hearings about Murdoch's phone hacking scandal. This doesn't belong on C-SPAN! Get it off! It's been on C-SPAN forever that stuff... I know but get it off! It's annoying me this is not our government or is this just another ploy to show how great a parliamentary government is? It's so great... Well thats'a good one But its not showing how great it is, it's showing how idiotic it seems Well to you and I and... Mr. Collins! You do that very well, we could throw a wig on you and we're done Yeah I had a professor at the University of California who was there's a visiting professor from Oxford or Cambridge or someplace in this guy...you couldn't understand a word he said it was just unbelievable just bubble bubble bubble bubble people professionals took notes and those only Savior

CHAPTER 05 / 44 Discussion

Politico Influence, 9/11 Commission Progress Report

The rising influence of the news outlet Politico is questioned following its prominent role in recent political debates alongside Brian Williams. Additionally, the segment notes the media appearances of Janet Napolitano to promote the 9/11 Commission's progress report.

politico· brian williams· janet napolitano· 9/11 commission· media analysis

13:10 By the way, I'd like to welcome everybody who is brand new to the program today. I know we have a number of new listeners after your outstanding PR job on this week in tech John fantastic I listened to the show post broadcast What a good job you did my friend? You just kept bringing it up was great It was opportunities. It was like an open door. That's because what is interesting is that all news analysis shows are basically talking about what we're talking about, only they're stupid and we have it... And we're smart! We know what we are talking about. No, they don't go the extra mile that's the reason. They just read whatever the press release says then they regurgitate it. Right. What do we do?

13:54 We don't get press releases. No one sends us any PR releases, we're no good! Anyway so it's yeah the media has been very hard to get through all of this 9-11 crap that everyone is just gonna go on for the next two or three days and then when nine eleven which is a Sunday show always oh that is a Sunday show great yeah well I thought the only thing that I caught Basically, Lucy Napolitano was on everywhere. She had multiple appearances because of course they came out with this implementing the 9-11 Commission report to the progress report which I have a PDF file in the show notes at 337 dot NA show notes calm you can catch copy that so she was actually even at Politico it's unlike breakfast thing which was kinda weird

14:48 There's something going on with political because the political guy was also the co-questioner on the dais with Williams, Brian Williams. He was there on the debate I said, who's this guy? Never seen him before. And they turned out to be the Politico guy and he was like you know cutting people off and telling them they weren't... What is.. Who runs Politico? They can't be making money off of ads No one makes money off of ads So who is Politico? Who's behind it? It must be some great force! I have no idea Yeah see Well we'll look into it By the way Sunday show will start at 9-11 for lucky numbers

CHAPTER 06 / 44 Discussion

Janet Napolitano, Rights vs Values Rhetoric

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano is criticized for her rhetoric regarding FEMA and the U.S. Constitution. The hosts highlight a linguistic shift where Napolitano refers to constitutional "rights" as "values," arguing this change undermines the legal protections afforded to citizens.

janet napolitano· fema· constitution· human rights· department of homeland security

15:38 Alright, right. So let me play a couple of Lucy Napolitano clips because she's always talking so much smack and she sent by the way poorly dressed this time certainly at the Politico thing but she's talking about it just you know Just little things catch my catch my attention where I'm like oh really and Words do matter and here's her talking about some of the incredible dangers that we've been through She's very happy to have FEMA now under her wing And so she was talking about FEMA for a moment here. Well, lately because Mother Nature has been awfully busy... Mother Nature's been awfully busy! And we've seen in the last two and half years earthquakes and tsunamis We've seen hurricanes Where was the tsunami in the United States? John could you please tell me that

16:28 It was on the on the on the TV set you can see pictures of it Yeah, so she's claiming. It's good to have FEMA because we've had tsunamis in America apparently Little things that irk me but of course the big topic and this is what she's really all over now is The balance between our security and our rights, our privacy and our general rights as determined by the Constitution of the United States of America which has been no the Obama administration does not believe in. They're highly cognizant that in our efforts to protect the security at the country we also have to protect them values on the country now this is interesting to me since when did right become values? Oh thats a good one

17:22 She continues. And those values are founded in the Constitution Thank you very much No, those are not values Lucy Those are rights as determined by the Constitution So this is a shift We're going to start talking about the values and by the way this is something that we just won the show and we just started. No no I got so much more but this is a phrase, a meme that was certainly in The Netherlands they called it their Norma en Vaarde which would be there norms and values does that make sense? Norms yeah yeah the norms and value so instead of rights

18:00 They talk about values and you have to be very, very careful. But she is now starting to propagate this and we have to keep reminding people that these are not our values these are rights as determined by the Constitution at least in the United States everywhere else sorry you get screwed you get values whatever So what do these values mean for us when it comes to naked body scanners? Well, Lucy Napolitano has lots to say about that for us. As the software becomes better and better we hope that we will be able to make it easier for travelers you won't have to take off so much your shoes your belt and everything as you go through the machines I don't mind the shoes and belt but I...and you can make me a better person here

CHAPTER 07 / 44 Discussion

TSA Airport Security Protocols, Opt-Out Experience

An anecdotal account of opting out of a TSA full-body scanner at a Seattle airport describes a confusing security protocol. The traveler was directed through a side gate rather than a magnetometer before receiving a pat-down, leading to questions about the logic and consistency of TSA procedures.

tsa· airport security· magnetometer· pat down· privacy

18:42 Like what I mind is in that they're AIT, right? AIT. Okay. Um like they're much more irritating and much more time-consuming because you have to hold your... How many people have done that new kind of thing? You have to hold your hand like this and if they If you hold your hands like this They'll stop you and tell you that's not the proper stance. And you gotta do it the right way! You're not doing it the right way!! You're not doing it the right way!!! You don't know how to do it slave! Disgusting. You're not doing it the right way Are you still there John? The stream is down. Yeah, no it's back up again and minor the NSA guys just Dragged their keys across our so she said you're not doing it right well You know the thing is do you does anyone remember? The fact that she won't go through these machines yeah cuz she's doing it the right way don't go through It that's a light way That's the right way to do it Yeah, I went up to Seattle the other day and opted out opt-out opt-out We have an opt out did they scream No

19:40 But they did say stand over there. Here's what I found peculiar, maybe someone can explain why this was the case So they had me stand on the outside of the entrance to the machine and then Yeah, just standing it like an idiot yeah And my keeping an eye on my luggage of course because they steal it Laptops are particularly susceptible look that only deal with a little clunker they do so then Guy some expert comes tech expert comes to pat me down he comes over there, and he goes okay You can come in now And then so I go around they had it they had a magnetometer So I was gonna walk through the magnetometer right mm-hmm and they freak out Because it won't go off and so they open this little gate oh

20:33 There's a little gate that is kind of on the side of the magnetometer between the magnetometer and the x-ray machine. And they open this little thing, and I walk through that over to the back So what was that all about? What was wrong with walking through the magnetometer? Because, I don't know. Because it doesn't work or because it'll show... It was like they freaked out! Oh my god don't walk through the magnetometer! I have to look at my uh-I have to look at the documents and maybe part of the protocol for some reason there's such But what's the point? I don't know. I don't know! Think you'd want to get the guy through a magnetometer just as quick, y'know, look for magnetics or metals It seems like a logical thing to do since I wouldn't walk through an X-ray machine that could at least be shunned through the magnetometer and then patted down it seemed like the smart thing to do but no

21:24 They had me walk through this little gate that wasn't through the magnetometer, it wasn't through the machine and I'm back in the back and a guy's patting me down. Pull your arms out! Hold your arms out if you have palms up! Maybe... well maybe part of the-I have the protocol so i can look at him maybe because if you opt out you're of course immediately suspicious and you may have something that could be triggered by the magnetometer That may be, I'll check the protocol. I'm sure it's in there It just it's just boring to read but I'll look at it for you alright so Lucy was also asked about the future of security and our world in our country

CHAPTER 08 / 44 Discussion

See Something Say Something, MTA Trademark Dispute

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) is aggressively protecting its "See Something, Say Something" slogan through trademark enforcement. While Janet Napolitano credits the public with thwarting one-third of terrorist plots, the MTA is preventing third parties from using the phrase for non-anti-terrorism messaging.

mta· see something say something· homeland security· trademark· terrorism

22:04 You know, our goal obviously would be to pull back in that sense. In other words to reduce the amount of inconvenience to people and their ability to go from one building and out the next but look we're dealing with a world where you also have lots of intended attacks on museums, The Holocaust Museum last year government buildings of all types for whatever reason... They did a wonderful job stopping that Yeah, but don't worry because you're going to be going through scanners for museums. Whatever reason and so I think the American people with few exceptions would rather in that case be safer than sorry. Let me raise my hand hello i'm one of the exceptions Lucy! Lucy! I am one of the exceptions yeah I think the American people will rather be safe than sorry

22:55 That's another way of just, what a lie. Safe than sorry if you're not being safe you'll be sorry that so condescending but luckily all these horrible events have taken place really have nothing to do with the billions of dollars we spent on our security apparatus run by this dick Instead, it's of course the public who are taking care of this and we need to remind everyone that if you see something say something. This is our mantra. Let me add that in this sense of a Homeland Security architecture, a Homeland Security enterprise. An enterprise! One of the fundamental concepts is that of shared responsibility We have recognized and witnessed the tremendous role that the public plays According to one recent outside analysis from 1999 through 2010

23:55 86 plots against Americans were foiled. And they were foiled by tips from a range of sources, including individuals What is most critical to note is that the information originated with the public and it's credited with stopping almost one third of those terrorists Love the 33% meme Lucy thanks In other words, the kind of awareness and vigilance we are urging through the See Something Say Something campaign I think is already saving lives and helping to thwart nearly three in ten plots. 33 percent that's right Lucy we got the message three in ten plots by the way the Manhattan Transportation Authority the MTA is now cracking down on knockoffs

24:47 It's see something say something slogan. You cannot just print this on a t-shirt you cannot make a jingle As the MTA is moving quickly to protect the slogan protect the slogan it trans why because they need to protect what they want people saying it no doing it Yeah, the MTA is pretty clear. Let me read the report. It makes no sense! Of course not! They trademarked it in 2007 plans to mount challenges before a federal trial and appeals board against other applicants you see people are trying to trademark this as well of course to make obviously stickers T-shirts the whole thing quote the slogan is not allowed for use of communications other than intended anti-terrorism messages

25:35 according to spokesman Sam Zambuto. In fact the agency allows 54 entities from the Department of Homeland Security to Maryland's Natural Resources Police, to use the catchphrase in public campaigns this is people marketing people messaging people in the government especially MTA are you insane? Are you absolutely completely insane? Are you stupid You come up with a slogan, which by the way I have to say is kind of a catchy catchy slogan. You know it's probably uh... When done as a jingle by us! Yes exactly! And then you're gonna forbid people from using it? You're such idiots Really Anyway our jingle is for sale. Just want to let you know that but it makes no sense and It's crazy This is the whole everything's in everyone. It's an enterprise they're gonna go after these guys for money Unbelievable

CHAPTER 09 / 44 Discussion

Lone Wolf Terrorist Threats, Bin Laden Intelligence

Janet Napolitano discusses the potential for "lone wolf" attacks during the 9/11 anniversary based on information recovered from Osama bin Laden. The segment also mocks the use of the word "right" as a conversational filler common in Silicon Valley tech culture.

lone wolf· osama bin laden· janet napolitano· silicon valley· security threats

26:37 So then there are two 9-11 clips and then I'll stop about Lucy just because she's been out there so much. Yeah, no come on She makes me sick yeah, I threw up in my mouth several times Let's see what could the next nine eleven look like? Is the next 9 11 likely to be a lone wolf? What has been your sketch review of what the next 9 11 might be? What do you worry about most is it a container is it? What is it? Um, yes. Yes and yes. Snappy answer Lucy. Yes, yes and yes it's all of the above is everything you're afraid of every boogeyman You've dreamed up? Yes is going to happen I wish to convey information get information what have you been told about the likelihood either psychologically historically That someone will try to take advantage of that day well we know from the information obtained from

27:38 I just heard that. Did you hear that? No She stumbled, she almost said Obama Oh yeah She's trying to say Osama Bin Laden Listen she almost says Obama, I didn't catch that You know we know from the information obtained from Bin Laden Yeah I got one of those on my clips too Where somebody was gonna see you could just see him saying and unfortunately it doesn't sound quite as Good the audio when you see it. You can see him We both play later, but this is no this was Perry he was gonna say Democrat But he said to say couldn't say Republican because he couldn't come up with a word He's gonna say Democrat and then he said we'll see later well what I betcha they have a jar in the Oval Office Yeah where they're all partying

28:29 And where Obama is not. I bet you they have a jar and every single time someone does, it's like a square jar Whenever someone in the administration slips and says Obama instead of Osama They got to put a quarter in or dollar There's a little more to this He was focused on that day as an iconic date right? But we don't have much more than by the way when people say right which is a big Silicon Valley thing, it's very irritating. That is basically saying you're an idiot if you don't agree! It's a horrible thing that people do and in Silicon Valley they do this all the time taking into consideration that you probably don't know a lot of the technology and its usually used in combination with the social graph so here's an example

29:14 well we know that uh... people really are into this type of engagement because of the uh... the fractals and what is displayed in these social graph right and you like I usually say wrong he was focused on that day as an iconic date, right? but we don't have much more than that so there's no specific or credible threat. That's the term of our view okay so there's no specific or credible BUT But it's a possibility. And it is also the possibility that... Anythings a possibility! A lone actor, or a lone wolf decide this is great day to get some attention I'm going to do something and so that puts even more emphasis on local first responders people remaining vigilant That what we've asked the public to do just remain vigilant as we go through this time and even as we commemorate almost 3 thousand people who died in attacks of 9-11

CHAPTER 10 / 44 Discussion

Spokane Bombing Plea Deal, Hate Crime vs Terrorism

Kevin Harpham, accused of planting a bomb along a Martin Luther King Day parade route in Spokane, accepted a plea deal resulting in a 32-year sentence. The discussion questions why the act was classified as a "hate crime" rather than "terrorism," suggesting the government manipulates these labels for media mileage.

kevin harpham· spokane· martin luther king day· hate crime· terrorism

30:13 love it. There was a news report. How does this work? The man accused of planting a bomb along Spokane's Martin Luther King Day parade route will spend up to 32 years in prison Kevin Harpham agreed to a plea deal today Prosecutors say Harpham admitted to planting the bomb last January in an attempt to commit hate crime His sentencing will be set for November So how does that work, a plea bargain, a plead deal What's up with that did this guy like

31:03 was it all, was this whole thing set up? Like hey man look now you got to do is just cop to the plea and just say he did it and they'll give you 30 but you get out in three. I mean what kind of sentencing is that if this is truly a lone wolf terrorist who tried to blow people up with a backpack bomb... Well they changed the meme already! It's a hate crime now he's not a terrorist You heard that Interesting No I missed that let me uh The man accused of planting a bomb along Spokane's Martin Luther King Day parade route will spend up to 32 years in prison. Kevin Harpum agreed to a plea deal today, prosecutors say Harpam admitted to planting the bomb last January in an attempt to commit hate crime. His sentencing will be set for November. Interesting so how can we accept that? Why do we accept this? This should be an outrage if we truly are the security state that we claim to be

31:56 How come we're accepting a plea bargain? Because they couldn't prove it, I guess. How can we accept the plea bargain to hate crime instead of terrorism?" Well, I think they swapped out the terrorism thing. They got their mileage out of that story that this final thing never went national so it's just a local story now about hate crime and we're just put is still on the checklist of terrorist situations that we need to be leery of because they're everywhere and you know some guy broke a window over here at the high school and it's obviously, no it's terrorism. Oh that's terrorism! Who knows? I mean the whole thing is just such a ridiculous scam that the public just accepts with

CHAPTER 11 / 44 Discussion

Generation X3, Molly Wood Collaboration

John C. Dvorak discusses his involvement in a new show titled "Generation X3" featuring millennial co-hosts. He also mentions a potential future collaboration with Molly Wood on a non-tech related program.

generation x3· molly wood· cnet· podcasting· media projects

32:41 You know, you gotta see this show. I mean you know i think i'm developing the show uh called generation x3 Is this not the fourth incarnation of cranky geeks? No this is a different show completely they still do x3 which is Explain to me why are you developing another show I got nothing else to do apparently so no wait a minute someone said hey man hey no no you like working here is my do you like this actually like those non side you'd like those non benefits you like that half half of payment of half a payment for your teeth yeah hey do another show Dvorak. So, this has got three people that are all Millennials with the weirdest opinions about everything why don't we just know idea it's just like jaw-dropping You should name the show The Millennials and Me

33:28 It's about it Wow by the way I've talked to Molly Wood and She seriously considering doing a show with me not no agenda, but a different type of show non-non tech related pursue that. I think that would be fun Okay Is that how its gonna be? No, no, no know that that Millennials in me know now that that's a turn on hey You can't use the joke I or after I already did it So let's play a couple things from the debates. Shall we thank some producers first and then move on? Because we're already like 20 minutes into the show. Ooh! Yeah, it might be good idea. You know time flies when you're talking about Janet. Mickey and I have this all the time We'll be in bed talking about Janet And then before you know it It's 2am. Either there or you want to kill yourself. Poor... terrible Ellen Hirsch Dahan Ellen Hirsch Dahan

CHAPTER 12 / 44 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Yacht Industry Anecdotes

The show acknowledges high-tier donations, including a $1,000 knighthood for Nico DeHaan from Ellen Hirsch DeHaan. A donor from the yachting industry, Jules van der Meer of Blauwater, invites the hosts to the Monaco Yacht Show, leading to a discussion about Russian billionaires and luxury ship sales.

nico dehaan· knighthood· monaco yacht show· blauwater· value for value

34:30 from bell air florida yes this is a that's alan uh... we see this with the other really will get it impression of her here john and first my husband nicole and i joined hosting the clearwater meetup during the two thousand eight hot pockets tour it was great gain in o adam and miss mickey in person secondly niko has a birthday on september twelfth He's been listening to No Agenda since episode one and got me hooked on it very shortly thereafter. He is my soulmate and hero for his birthday, I'm sending you $1,000 for HIS knighthood! Please tell Nico...I said happy birthday and all my love...of course does she see him often? Anyway, happy birthday and all of my love can we please have some karma? Yeah gonna hit you with that right now Ellen and Nico

35:16 You've got karma and thanks up to both of us for continued efforts on behalf of Person kinds. So we're reading this guy wait a minute She she donated $1,000 to give Nico a knighthood and she hosted the Clearwater event And she wants karma too Really? I mean please stop asking for so much Not only do they host, but they hooked us up with power and water. They hosted the show while we did the show live. They fed us beautiful people. Absolutely fantastic! So nice and this Nico guy you got to check him out. I'll tell you something...I never heard of Bellaire Florida. It's kind of classy but it spelled Bella-air

36:02 So it's not Bel-Air as in the... Do they pronounce it Bella-air? No, they pronounce it Belair. Okay Yeah but uh They're kind of on the edge of the classiness of the neighborhood It was kind of funny Well that's probably better Robert Clayson But how awesome is that! That's the gift that keeps on giving right there boy Oh yeah no I think these people are the salt of the earth Saints Yes Saints Robert Clayson in London 24567. Oh, this is our new donation amount for show 345 we have the new link right on Dvorak org slash na

36:40 It'll be up. We did send out a mailing wait you set out the mailing without that link being up No, the link is is on the link was in the mailing go straight to the thing That's how he got it all right three four five six seven But I always liked when I do the mailing I like to give them and they hit the Advantage of being the first on the block so let's just from a marketing perspective look at the success of this mailing we sent out what 30 40 50 thousand emails we said our 5,000 we got one guy Well, that's about right. That's for our numbers yeah we got one guy Johnson to the second it's Dahlia Colorado 338 John and Adam I figure that i'm a little late to get into the 337 club

37:28 So I'm shooting for the 338 club. Oh, okay! You made it to the 337 Club but okay... Uh..I've been a small amount donor for awhile but i think its time for me to be an executive producer today and want to support your efforts with words and with cash. I don't always agree with everything you say of course not or the way you say it would blame Adam But I respect your courage to say things that are unpopular Who says they're unpopular? Wait a minute! So 336 John talked about the Israeli-Palestine debate with more accuracy and with much less bias than any of the mainline news pundits ever do so on the subject. For that I'm sure he gets some nasty notes, actually no... Did any of those complaining send money to the show? Well let me say two things one the nasty notes came to me

38:13 I don't know why people do that. It's like John... I think they're doing the right thing Yeah, they come to me and you know no one who sent a nasty gram donated to the show in fact one guy said donate anymore! And i said thanks for your support That's all right man You have to donate yeah until john like you retracts his statement like my statement? I don't know but People people don't listen well No, I get a lot. Actually do you get that? That bothers me the most. You run in and say something and as you elaborate then somebody picks off like a piece of it As if they're news anchor on Fox And then they blast for it without listening to whole thing Not even that very strange They shouldn't be listening our show at all That's right Turn off your iPod Go back to MSNBC Go back to Olbermann Where you belong

39:15 We're the only show that sends our listeners away. Go! Get out! By the way... Get lost! I think this is the next... So how what's your so Adam and John you built this very successful model, how did you do it? We told me when I get lost we block people on Twitter. We we spent we spam filtered their emails and told them to get lost And that's how he built this enormous audience good job James Spitzer, Sir James Spitzer to you. Jamaica Plains Massachusetts 337 given the show's fascination with numbers you might be interested in that show 337 is not just a prime number divisible by itself and one but is

40:03 Chen prime where p plus 2 equals the product of two primes 3 and 113. Chen's doctoral thesis no doubt, and a star prime, a very interesting number so my upcoming 337 donation should have exceptional karmic significance and possible tie-ins to the second half of this show subjects." So I got really excited about this And he put some links to the book of knowledge about these star numbers. I'm like, ah this is great because people love numbers! It's true there it is 337 I can't wait to use this again yeah on show 433 Well that's coming and then at show 541 those should be huge. And show 4537 it's gonna kick ass

40:54 in fact by then the dollar will be so devalued that it'll be just that up that we'll get another five bucks and euros yeah all right Jules van der Meer and listening Jen flissing them listening and listening and he's also seems to be a ham John you could see QDXM 4384 PX Papa X-ray. That must be I did some, i mean that's not the normal ham sequence we have in the United States with us obviously. Yeah he probably is in Flissingen Okay, three thirty another 337 stop mentioning nobody is listening anyway on the show positive karma Another note to send a John not to me you said that you said that last week No anyone's who's listening. Nobody's listening so how did you build that successful audience? Well we just figured no one was listening and those who were we sent them away I

41:51 Yeah, just like the Yomah kids. You know what? Screw Jack Welch! We're writing the book on building a successful business model. Positive karma's on its way through PayPal. Last time I donated you made fun of my mega yacht customers. Please do not say those crazy things. those crazy Russian millionaires again okay what did he say not to say don't say those crazy Russian millionaires actually billionaires so what else do you do with this excess from a lowly insulted our clients it's winning. They're loyal customers to me as anyone else ordering a mega yacht I would think yeah, I'd be sucking them too! I have two yachting projects running related to Gitmo Nation Borscht so he is on our Yachting Friends also last time the karma kicked in a bit late i think your karma heart needs retuning let me do that hold on let me re-tune it for you my friend here we go

42:57 So, no let me say this. We would love to get to know your Russian millionaire yachting friends. Millionaires? I need a vacation! Yeah well look here's coming up he says please send some karma for successful Monaco Yacht Show and you can be assured that's the jam of his show yeah okay that's gonna be a lot better than the one i went to in Oakland I can fly up in less than two weeks. Unfortunately, we should get an advance on this. I'm meeting my customers and friends are going for a full order book from my company Blauwater anyone wants to buy a mega yacht B-L-A-U W-W

43:35 A-T-E-R dot com Blauwater. I think Jule is Dutch, I'm pretty sure and the Dutch of course build great ships they're well known for it. Well they always have. So Jule here's what i say, if you have any of these yachts that you can park a helicopter on the deck I can be a sales guy for ya Now I'll fly people in and park on the deck and say, in fact you can sell me with the yacht. Boris as part of your package we not only give you the yacht, the helicopter but here's a dude! All you have to do is just give him an internet connection twice a week and throw some borscht in him And that's good and I will be the dude. By the way he comes with it with a beautiful woman who will just walk around and look good on your deck

44:26 So he says his wife is too young for the MILF label, but as for looks and brains she more than deserves the jingle. If you want... MILF! That's one mother I'd like to f*** Nice. So anyway, keep up the good work and in the morning from all the NOAJENDER listeners in the yachting industry Monaco here we come well That's the life. Well thank you, but thank you so much it's fantastic thank you for the magic star number 10 prime donation it really helps and puts a smile on my face And I have anonymous from Riyadh Saudi Arabia anonymous donation from Riyadh nice where our eyes I'd like to pronounce it Rydia Nice work at a media assassinating John by tricking him into revealing his feelings on the occupied Palestine. I still Love you JCD and the show is top-notch No other show has your level of broadcast know how combined with content another three three seven? Hey, I see I did a good job that tricked here I don't know how

CHAPTER 13 / 44 Discussion

Listener Feedback, No Agenda Karma Reports

Listeners from Tokyo, Oakland, and Berkeley provide feedback on how the "No Agenda Karma" has affected their lives, including landing new jobs. One listener reports a "Lucifer" look-alike character on the TV show Leverage in Japan who referenced Gitmo and "docile slaves."

gitmo nation· corporatism· leverage· fox japan· listener donations

45:28 Ying Zhu, in the morning John and I think i made a mistake of using my real name in the last donation which is apparently not Ying Zhu. And the universe has been conspiring to empty my bank account ever since please de-douche me and send some karma give him a double. You've been de-douched! It's 333 karma 333 33 from him and those are executive producers and associate executive producer we have Dame Astrid who's chimed in from Tokyo our great architect. Oh how good to hear from them again awesome yes 270 hi John I love the story about the news and media being bad for your health incidentally in order to get my 10 year old half Japanese daughter used to some English language, we sometimes have the unhealthy English cable TV running in the background

46:15 I know, cringe sounds like an excuse. Anyway the point is that suddenly on Sunday the 4th of September with an episode of Leverage Season 3 was on Fox Japan my ears perked! I looked up and my jaw dropped! The plot was used to get Lucifer a Lucifer look-alike TV announcer Hillary to denounce Obama for not keeping his promise about closing Gitmo and boot that the water is laced so to keep us all nice and docile slaves. And at one point a Lucifer look-alike even proclaimed, now get me that crackpot who came up with this idea in here! We gotta get this episode! This sounds great! I can't believe we missed that Here's to good health through no agenda and fists in the mouth from Gitmo Nation Sushi would love Dame Astrid please

47:09 uh... still dreaming of building you in the no agenda hq winery with extra tall ceilings for adam and mickey but that then again it would only be too clear where to knock on the door we don't want that now certainly not well that's so sweet if u daymaster good to hear from him glad things are okay with you guys and finally nick mcneill uh... which was a little bit really big deal another social executive producer oakland in the morning out after stripping for tuition and just getting by as a grad student at the University of California Northern Silicon Valley. I finally landed my first desk job, only nine million to go. I'm donating to let all the boners know that no agenda karma worked after assuming my place in the machine.

47:53 My first paycheck in my new role as an undergraduate academic advisor that shows valuable value cannot be stressed enough. This is a student by the way, that's donating $233 and 33 cents. Cannot be stressed enough instead of talking with my students about the latest in Snooki vision I yap about corporatism science and most importantly napping for humanity uh... i don't think we have it yet. No, no I do! Here we go. Alright, I forgot all about that. Another one of our initiatives that went nowhere thankfully my girlfriend is a monthly donor so she'll never nag me off about the show actually your jingles have mind controlled her enough that she has a new favorite book

48:37 She has a new favorite book. She can't wait to see you at the market, John. You can skip over parts of what people are saying and why do you do that? That's not okay! He wants to request a douchebagging from John S. Christeck of Berkeley. Alright, that's our group for today. We want to thank them profusely for helping us produce this show and remind people they can go to know agenda show calm no channel Dvorak comm slash na Dvorak org slash NA which we have a jingle for and also Noah gendered nation com to continue org

CHAPTER 14 / 44 Discussion

Domain Name Contributions, RecordSetter.com Submission

Producers continue to register and forward domain names to the No Agenda website, including "crackpotnation.com" and "dearoldnebraskau.com." The hosts discuss a submission to RecordSetter.com to challenge a record held by Leo Laporte.

domain names· recordsetter· guinness world records· nebraska· wiki

49:17 A couple of PR efforts that I'd like to mention. Now, I didn't understand this one that Jamie sent in... Give- these are domain names at forwardtonowagendashow.com GiveUsMuchUlus.com? U L U S Did I misunderstand because of course it's all written together give us much uless dot com Maybe it's you list like the end user license agreement. I don't know I said, I replied and I said what is this but thanks anyway appreciated crackpot nation calm now forwarding to no agenda show comm there's a new wiki out there which i think you guys should all take a look at Robert leather one of our top producers from get my nation eastman working on its called no agenda watchlist com and The idea is it's a watch list of people we are watching

50:05 Which I think is a good initiative. It's a wiki so you can contribute to that and put all kinds of douchebags on it No, I think that's great because sometimes we're watching people we don't remember watching and we need to probably refer to the wiki ourselves We're so good! Yeah, we're watchin' you! We might forget but we're watchin' ya So yeah... And there's also a mobile version which is good for when we can't remember Let's see Is that you or me? That's me. About what? What, New Jersey calling me? I don't think so No it's not me Not me New Jersey is calling you Yeah i guess so Maybe its Christy

50:41 Dear John and Adam, says Matt. After hearing of your snub from the Guinness World Book of Records for most domain names pointing to a single site I thought of a solution! I submitted you to recordsetter.com formerly URDB because if Leo can get her record for crowd surfing with a webcam why gosh dang it you should too Well, I have yet to hear back from them...from the community of The Attempt. Uhh..I did get you FDQNRecord.com and forwarded it to the NoAgendaShow.com website He got crowd surfing with a webcam? Yeah! It's South by Southwest What kind of record is that?! Ha ha yeah well that's the whole point If...the Beginners Book Of Records is obviously some scam we don't know about. I guess you have to pay

51:31 to get in. Well, yeah it's like that who's who scam. Oh I get so many of those love to put you in the congratulations intellectuals congratulations! You've been selected Yeah, and here's something I never would have thought of because of course. I don't give a rat's ass about sports But maybe you would like that to mark the entrance of Nebraska into the big ten and The start of the college football season I've registered the following domains which now point to know agenda show calm dear old Nebraska u.com And there's no place like Nebraska comm and he says the reason why is if you look at the Nebraska fight song

52:07 I hear the lyrics, there's no place like Nebraska dear old Nebraska U where the girls are the fairest. The boys are the squarest of any school that i knew There is no place like Nebraska where they're all true blue So... Well for one thing their colors are red as far as I know and B they're square-ist and that in their fight song? I guess so Maybe squarest means like Fair honest. Yeah, something like that yeah well it doesn't sound that way there should be buggery calm There's a doubt there is an agenda listener yeah or why cannot why can I not find a good domain name comm? now forwarding to and no agenda show dot-com

CHAPTER 15 / 44 Discussion

The 9/11 Bathroom Bible, Paul the Book Guy

Paul the Book Guy is set to publish "The 9/11 Bathroom Bible" through a mainstream publisher. The book is intended as a collection of articles for casual reading, and the hosts agree to provide a one-line forward for the project.

paul the book guy· 9/11 bathroom bible· publishing· book forward

52:57 Paul the book guy is coming out with his 9-11 book. He's actually being published, a real publisher and they're not releasing it before 9 11 for some obvious reasons. They think it's better to release after tentative title The 9 11 Bathroom Bible I think its cool because you have this book and just throw in there in the crapper And when people are sitting there, they can have what's this? Hmm the 9-11 bathroom Bible I wonder and he's looking for all kinds of articles because he thinks you can still do more if you have any mainstream articles contact Paul at Paul the book guy now. You can find him at Paul the book guy a show Paul the book guys show and We he's asked us to write a little forward or like one line. What's up? Sure we can do

CHAPTER 16 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Buzzword Bingo, State Representation

A new "Buzzword Bingo" feature has been added to the No Agenda meetup website, allowing listeners to play during shows. Additionally, the hosts note that "Gitmo Nation" now has documented listeners in every U.S. state.

buzzword bingo· no agenda meetup· gitmo nation· state map

53:49 Yeah, yeah email John forwards actually email John. I'm sure he'll do it then from no drink out forwards Yeah you do. I'm a forward Meister Ford meister comm Then from Noah Jenna beat up org which is the place where you can organize your own meetups They have something new on the website that I wanted to mention and know agenda buzzword bingo which general generates a bingo card I knew on each time with all kinds of, uh... I guess the idea is you listen to the show at your NOA agenda meetup with the group and then you get your card. And for instance on the card i just generated here if black helicopter should come up then you can cross that one off

54:32 And you click it and actually turns green. You don't have to print it out That's kind of cool wag the dog See what they have in the morning Thomas Friedman vaccines National Treasure aliens Blackwater Book of Knowledge, and then of course when you have a completed a row or if you've completed your entire card you yell out bingo So that's a fun little thing. It's not money maker, but it is fun to see and thank you very much Steve and Reno for curry4president.com A lot of people responded and even Eric DeShill was quick to point out that at noagentonation.com You will see on the map that we do have representation in every single state in these United States of Gitmo Nation And a lot of people are very excited about us running for the 2016 ticket John and I have thought about that

CHAPTER 17 / 44 Discussion

Curry-Dvorak 2016 Presidential Platform, National Corporation

The hosts outline a satirical 2016 presidential platform under the "No Agenda Party." Proposals include taking the United States public on the New York Stock Exchange, issuing shares to citizens, implementing a 15% flat tax, and nationalizing the broadcast spectrum.

2016 election· flat tax· nationalization· spectrum· corporate government

55:17 As you will be my first of all we're running together I don't understand why you know, why do we have to pick our running mate later? It wouldn't be much smarter if you just said hey. I'm running for president and here's the guy I'm doing it with Why don't they do that? You know now that should bring it up. I think this is an initiative that we should promote I mean, well, why wouldn't Ron Paul say I'm running for president and here's who my running mate is Well, I think of course the reason that we're not going to see that in the short run although i think it's a long-term winner of an idea. I think in the short run the problem is you have these guys are running against each other to be the top dog because... No! Because when when we do Curry for president 2016 will be curry Dvorak by the way will be running together right yeah under what party

56:08 It's no party, it's just No Agenda. You don't have to have a party! Who says you have to have a party? The No Agenda Party. I-I don't want it be called a party... Just who are you? We're Curry and Dvorak from No Agenda we're Crackpot and Buzzkill, a balanced ticket Suck it yo, they make you put stuff on the ballot. You have to say party I have to be independent or something you have to say party You have to actually say Europe why do you have to be part of a party? I don't think that's in the Constitution No, where does it say you have to get out of this thing This is the States you have to go through the states the state all right then you make up whatever you want at the Constitution Okay who gives a crap so what I do I think it should be there no agenda party okay? No agenda party alright good

56:47 I have, uh...I know how we're going to run it. First of all we're going to be running in the midst of the great-great-great depression so people will pay attention to us and that'll be good. So basically everyone's already gonna be starving and they'll be clamoring for straws at that point. We have a real shot but i have the idea here is our platform is were taking America public listing on the New York Stock Exchange everybody gets 10 shares And your right to live in America depends upon you owning at least one share. So, you can take nine shares, you can sell them to Russians or whatever, you could sell it to someone in Timbuktu they hold that share then come and they can work, right? And we're gonna do complete flat tax just one easy payment the IRS code will be one page and its like whatever you make

57:49 I think 10% is good. That's it, corporations... Actually 15 seems to be the number that works the best Okay well you know we look I'm open for discussion 15 that's fine and that's it no corporate tax yeah whatever the states want to do is fine and you can move around and believe me you'll be moving around and would just get rid of everything No FEMA then will run a military Yeah and uh and I think... So the taxes are for? Yeah! We'll run the military We'll run the other treasures of the country like spectrum. We're gonna nationalize all that get all these douchebags out tell them You know you what? You want to make money on a spectrum here's how I have to do it Here are the rules we'll get rid of all that stupid stuff Which is mislabeled net neutrality there's nothing to do with it It's like just open access, and you can't mess with it whatsoever

58:42 and we throw everything else out. What else do we need? EPA, no Department of Education, No It's all that We're going to fire a lot of people but I think...I think were the guys to do it Okay And then Of course you hold on to that share and know Social Security You just hold onto the share If we do well then you get dividends The United States is already a corporation so why don't we just take in public Yeah! We can tap that up if you want sell for your old age That good too Then make a lot money And then you can retire. You need to put all these thoughts on paper, this is a book that we can sell on the show. Ooh I like that! Now should we release it right after your cycles book? Hey everybody these are just thoughts but

59:30 Are they really just thoughts? We'll work on it. Thank you so much to our executive producers and associate executive producers, a producer for supporting the show by the way we'll also take no money we're just all going to do every single day as president and vice president which can do this show and will talk about all that stuff that we talked about normally except it will be every single day were not gonna live in the White House We're just, you know John's gonna stay where he is. No I want to live in the White House! No you're not gonna well no...no let's just open it up. It'll be a great party place I mean its designed for parties we just have parties and though I don't know that seems what they do now what do you think goes on there? I know but I don't need the party too much time watching C-SPAN that's all will do. Have c-span parties okay I'm all for that

1:00:18 Anyway, thank you very much for supporting the program. It really lifts our spirits phenomenally when we have a good week! and things are being supported. And it shows that you care about what we're doing, and its work in its value for value You are not the product you were receiving an outstanding product These credits by the way of course a real unlike the phonies in Hollywood I'm surrounded by them who would never ever vouch for credit They'll say... Talk to my person, my secretary No! We are actually here take the call and make sure people understand if helps you get job all the better Of course there's always something you can do which is go out and do this propagate the formula

1:00:55 Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order! Hit me with it! Shut up slave. By the way to save money in the...we're not going to have a whole bunch of slaves running around Miss Mickey doesn't want to be uh in the administration she just wants she wants to be minister of party and I will fly Air Force One myself so we can fire the crew. Well you gotta get certified on the 47. Yeah that'll be as part of my campaign promise, I will get certified on the 747! You can take that to the bank So uh...

CHAPTER 18 / 44 Discussion

Ron Paul, Border Fences and Capital Controls

During a Republican primary debate, Ron Paul argued that border fences could be used to keep Americans and their capital inside the country during economic turmoil. The hosts praise Paul for this perspective, noting that the audience, allegedly filled with Rick Perry supporters, was unreceptive.

ron paul· republican debate· border fence· capital controls· rick perry

1:01:42 So there was a debate. Did you get to Dvorak dot org slash NA? Dvorak dot org slash N A My god John, you can't even remember five minutes ago I can't And John would be like...I do solemnly swear Why am i here?! So uh We got it. We got a buzz we gotta well, that's our only you're being so inaugurated as vice president the United States and you'll forget five minutes or why am I here? It is worse let's face it yes Oh Biden. So there was a debate and I want to get right to the best piece in the debate, yeah then we can talk about some of the minor things but let's go right to the cut to the chase and first let me make couple things clear... The audience you know they apparently Ron Paul couldn't stack the audience like he normally does with people that cheer him Yeah And so he got close being booed because the audiences filled with a bunch of Perry stooges All organized by Big Pharma

1:02:46 Exactly, but Ron Paul did come off the wall with the best thing in the whole... Of course he would have normally got a big round of applause at most events but in this case he got a big thud. The quote of the week as far as I'm concerned. The Ron Paul on the fence clip. Much more complicated, people who want big fences and guns sure we could secure the borders A barbed wire fence with machine guns that would do the trick I don't believe that's what America is all about. designed and may well be used against us and keep us in. In economic turmoil, the people want to leave with their capital and there's capital controls and there's people control so every time you think of a fence keeping all those bad people out think about those fences maybe being used against us keeping us in. This was so amazing when I saw this I'm like that's it forget it

CHAPTER 19 / 44 Discussion

Bill O'Reilly, Constitutional Gold and Silver

A dispute between Ron Paul and Bill O'Reilly regarding the Constitution's mention of gold and silver is analyzed. The hosts cite Article 1, Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution to prove that states are prohibited from making anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts, contradicting O'Reilly's claims.

bill o'reilly· ron paul· constitution· gold standard· legal tender

1:03:55 Everyone's going to be calling him the biggest nut job in the country. However, I haven't really seen that! I haven't seen people jumping out and calling him a nut ball over this." No they're actually...I think he is so marginalized they don't even bother anymore. Well it's funny because O'Reilly and I didn't see the show but someone sent me a clip. I guess Ron Paul won't go on his show because he says O'Reilly is not a journalist true O'Reilly sent one of his stooges down to interview him and they did something really interesting. They completely mangled the truth, duh regarding the Constitution and it was very very surprising to me and I'd like to play that for just a little bit. Enlighten us what is your idea of what we should do with gold? Is it all in Fort Knox or should we start digging it up

1:04:53 I just said we should obey the Constitution, make gold and silver legal tender. Why doesn't he care or anybody care about the Constitution? Right now nobody legalized paper money where did it come from they just ignored They talk about the constitution when it pleases them But when it doesn't please them like going to war without a declaration go bomb go bomb Iran You know they might get a nuclear weapon well is there a declaration of war why isn't that some people you know i think we should obey the constitution sometimes but other times so that wasn't so bad, you didn't want to explain that to O'Reilly? well he would not have understood it thank-you very much alright here now is Jesse Waters. Now I have read the Constitution and doesn't say anything about gold and silver what does he talking about? So John... Does the Constitution not say anything about golden silver whatsoever

1:05:45 Well, I don't know. Let's look it up in the Book of Knowledge. The Constitution is in there. Okay. US Constitution Article 1 Section 10 No state shall enter into any treaty alliance or confederation grant letters of mark and reprisal coin money emit bills of credit make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts So did O'Reilly read the constitution? Or was he just full of crap? well probably both but... Well, so actually they continue and then they do come back to this but they don't actually say what is stated literally as I just read to you in the Constitution. I thought it was very interesting since i tracked the anti-constitutional meme He's misreading the constitution and this theory of his has been around for quite some time

1:06:37 taken very seriously in most circles. Oh yeah, that's the part of the Constitution we don't take seriously in most circles. Article 1 section 8 of the Constitution says Congress has the ability to coin money and regulate the currency and doesn't say anything about gold or silver. So here is article 8 that he's talking about not article one section eight not section 10. Yeah but article one section eight refers to states What difference does it make? Is that not part of the constitution Yeah, but it yeah no gold and silver is mentioned. But what it's saying is that if the states are going to do business with each other or with the federal government they have to use gold and silver because we don't want to take their crappy paper money Right! So doesn't that mean in the Constitution it literally states... Okay so in California we should be using gold and silver? Yeah Aren't the States the United States of America

1:07:28 Or do we have to trade gold and silver for paper from the federal government? Explain it to me. Well, what it says is that the federal government can use paper Does it specifically say that in the Constitution? Well you just read it It said they can coin or... Read article 8 again whichever one was last Okay No state shall enter into a treaty alliance No not that one The second one This is what I'm reading! That's what I just read to you Well read it again That's what I did until you interrupted me. Well stop interrupting me! No state shall enter... this would be great, we'll do our own presidential debate and just argue amongst each other And here is the no agenda party as a debate as they argue with each other. No state shall enter into any treaty alliance or confederation grant letters of mark and reprisal coin money emit bills of credit make anything but gold and silver a tender in payment of debts Yeah

1:08:26 So that means in California then at least we should only be using gold and silver, correct? Yeah this was to prevent the states from having their own central banks that would compete with a big central bank. Which we have! We have federal reserve banks in the States aren't those centralized though? I think they're centralized though... You're right they are in the States yeah no you should well maybe there's a uh I don't know it seems to me that you have to do all the business in the states. The Federal Government is not a state I know, but we're talking about the federal government and O'Reilly's talking about the federal government not the states. Yeah but Ron Paul said that we should follow the Constitution and it says it right there! Gold & Silver! And O'Reilly says its nowhere in there... gold or silver those words are not in the constitution. He said the words gold and silver were not in the constitution. Anyway douchebag. The Constitution! Long way to go for a jingle but I pulled it off.

CHAPTER 20 / 44 Discussion

Rick Perry, Gardasil Executive Order Controversy

Texas Governor Rick Perry faced criticism during the GOP debate for his executive order mandating the Gardasil HPV vaccine for schoolgirls. Mitt Romney is noted for defending Perry's "intent" while disagreeing with the method, which the hosts interpret as a sign of a potential Romney-Perry ticket.

rick perry· gardasil· hpv vaccine· mitt romney· executive order

1:09:25 Okay, where were we? Debates. Ah yes okay so we had the best thing was that was the highlight of it You didn't think that the Gardasil thing was good Well, here's what I thought was interesting about it. And I do have a clip First of all let's play the Perry hesitates clip because i can't quite Express enough how when you're watching him You know he is just about to say Democrat He was asked the question that was asked in the previous debate That he couldn't take part in and so he Decided to agree with where they all held their hands up Saying we don't want any taxes kind of thing Yeah And he just about says Democrat Fellow Democrats Because he is a Democrat

1:10:05 But he hears, but he can't even bring himself to get the right words so I can say Republicans. Play the Perry hesitates clip. That included $10 in spending cuts for every one dollar in tax increases we've been anxious to get you on the record now that you have jumped into this would you take that deal? I join my fellow participants here. Yeah, well everyone's out talking about him. It was a Clinton guy voted for Hillary K. Yeah he did yeah so You were the first one that told me that by the way I hadn't heard that anywhere else now Everyone's on the bandwagon because they guess eventually like what are we gonna write about it now? I don't know man consult the book of knowledge Hey dude, you was Democrat Did you know that oh yes cool took that much work yeah, so

1:11:00 So they was jumping all over him about this Gardasil thing. I may have, let's see what i have for clips... I probably didn't- I have it if you want it I don't think it's important. I think what was important was the... but just suffice to say they jumped all over him for this forced vaccinations and Paul is particularly adamant Well he did it by executive order, is what he said By executive order and then somewhere in the executive order there was an opt-out that was Perry's Parade But nobody knew about that I didn't know about until you mentioned it so No But here's whats interesting Romney comes up

1:11:36 Because everyone's jumped all over Perry who has tried to defend himself and Romney comes up and defends Perry, play this clip. And this is the clip that says to me what I said a couple weeks ago put in the prediction book. Yes. Perry is the vice president. We've each taken a mulligan or two and my guess is that something you probably do differently second time he just said rather do it through legislation next time through and I recognize he wanted very badly to provide better health care to his kids and to prevent the spread of cancer. I agree with those who said he went about it in the wrong way, but i think his heart was in the right place. Right now we have people who on this stage care very deeply about this country. We love America. America's in crisis. We have some differences between us." Yeah so you did kind of fall for it. To me that...we actually watched uh...the engagement

CHAPTER 21 / 44 Discussion

Newt Gingrich, DHS and SEIU Campaign Ads

Newt Gingrich claimed the Department of Homeland Security was originally designed to withstand three nuclear events in one morning. The segment also critiques MSNBC for running SEIU advertisements that attack Republicans during a Republican debate broadcast.

newt gingrich· seiu· department of homeland security· msnbc· political advertising

1:12:29 Chris and Kim Kardashian because I thought it was more entertaining than a debate. I mean you fell for this is a show I can't believe you actually watched the show because our listeners demanded it okay, so here's what got me about the thing There's two, well there's a couple little gotchas. First of all play the Gingrich clip because this is a piece of information I did not know and i thought it got something out of that And the original goal was to have a homeland security department that could help us withstand up to three nuclear events in one morning and we need to understand there are people out there who want to kill us. Yeah! Three in one morning? Did you know that? That's the magic number

1:13:08 Well, besides the magic numbers you know that Gingrich was part of the DHS creation. Yeah well I heard Giuliani talking about that he was on Pierce Douchebag last night and he was also saying you know well you know the president got a lot of flack but if it happened again we'll be ready! We'll be ready for him!! So I guess they're all, they got hard-ons about this shit. So the final clip i have and you know again I didn't overclip but this one which is right in the middle of the debates they play this SEIU advertisement which I thought it was chicken shit and let me explain this is MSNBC and there's a Republican debate that is watched mostly by Republicans or independents, mostly independence who are trying to figure out who to vote for because that's your key constituency so would you play if you were hosting an event like the Democratic debates would you ask for advertisements that just slam of the Democrats?

1:14:13 Is this even fair? I wouldn't even care. Just pay me the money. Well, never mind but they...I thought that this ad was really a low blow but you play it and its pretty funny ad What's is going to take? Do we have to spell out? Can't Republicans in Congress get the message? Instead, they protect tax breaks for big oil. Tax breaks for billionaires Even tax breaks for companies that ship our jobs overseas. Republicans in Congress have shown who they stand up for Voting to take care of the wealthy not the middle class It's time to bring jobs back to America SEIU Cope is responsible for the content of this advertising

CHAPTER 22 / 44 Discussion

Kim Kardashian, Ray J Sex Tape Rights

A brief discussion covers reports that Kim Kardashian is attempting to buy back the rights to her sex tape from Vivid Entertainment. The hosts compare the Kardashian family's cultural longevity to the Gabor sisters.

kim kardashian· ray j· sex tape· vivid entertainment· celebrity culture

1:14:55 I just thought it was like, well... It's mind control. It's all mind control because i think-I believe that this first of all the whole thing is a little bubble and if you really say what are the ratings on this thing how many people actually watch? Nobody watched me and five other guys who were watching everyone else was watching The Kardashians with Americans do yeah but how was that by the way was it a good show You know it's funny because you know Kim Kardashian is trying to or she said I think she may have succeeded buying back the rights to that sex porn video and the sex tape that she did which is on vivid entertainment so I watched that. I watched the trailer for it. The porn? Yeah, I've seen that but I watched the trailer for it and its her like

1:15:39 It's really weird because it's almost like she is promoting it. And she saying stuff like, you know everyone thinks my boobs are fake well they'll know now I mean no one knew Kim Kardashian when this happened and by the way Ray J? My God double hander! I mean this guy he hung like a horse That's what these videos are you know this with these women are trying to I guess they're promote the fact that they can handle it Whatever the case is I tell ya I tell people to be Kim can handle it. Can she handle it? Yeah, Kimmy can yeah So there the Gabor sisters of our generation Yeah Not so we're gonna be stuck with them forever and I'm glad that you spent your time watching their show I was forced

CHAPTER 23 / 44 Discussion

San Francisco Public Nudity, Towel Ordinance

San Francisco is considering a law requiring public nudists to use towels when sitting on public benches. The hosts mock the "infantile" local news coverage of the issue and contrast the media's discomfort with nudity against its willingness to show violence and war.

san francisco· castro district· public nudity· quinn cafe· media sensationalism

1:16:24 That was forced. Yeah, uh-huh. Well meanwhile there's good news or bad news actually bad news in the business of well play the coffee trends this is just disturb me And in news around the Bay Area, baristas at a San Jose coffee shop busted for serving topless. Neighbors have long complained about scantily clad employees at Quinn Cafe. This is cell phone video given to the authorities by the wife of a customer On Sunday, San Jose police officers walked in and found two women working half noon The women were cited but not the owner That's not illegal by the way

1:17:01 I didn't think it was. It's not illegal in fact there is another controversy in San Francisco over nudists. It's Quinn's Cafe for everyone who was interested. Quinn's? Quinn's Cafe? Quinn's in San Jose. Queef Cafe! Hey everybody welcome to the queef cafe, its not illegal, nudity is legal in San Francisco Well this is San Jose And there's so then I don't know about San Jose. There was this and I actually wasn't gonna play this one Just play a little bit, so I guess that You know nudity is legal in San Francisco walk around naked if you want it's not a problem There's a bunch of guys up there in the Castro and and I've seen them at some like gay parade Events they walk around naked me a big deal

1:17:48 And but now there's a law that is being proposed, when they sit on a public bench or seat they have to put a towel over it. So you don't transfer cooties or something onto the bench and this looks like it's going to pass but with the reporting what just like wow how infantile and idiotic, just infantile reporting from your mainstream news media. For those who like to bear it all in San Francisco it might just be time to cover it up. It gets worse restrictions on public nudity Mike Sugarman went on the search for nudists who might not be ready to so-called throw in the towel yet Mike?

1:18:34 If there's any item, we'll find out. If there is any question... You're not watching Denver television right now! You're not watching St Louis Television! You are NOT watching Phoenix Television! This is San Francisco Television Our story begins here in the Castro The Jane Warner Parklet at Castro and Market in San Francisco is a great place to hang out. Nice day, enjoy your picnic! A long sandwich say... By the way he's naked. He's naked? It's legal in San Francisco to be naked outside if you're not around. I like the bells And the whole thing they can't help themselves it's a naked body you idiots it's like and it's not pretty either

1:19:16 It's just like, it blows me away. It's like no problem showing people being burned and killed and bombs dropped on them and mangled and all screwed up and the government spying on you but oh when it comes a naked guy! An old naked guy! Turn off your television! It's killing you! Stop drinking the water! It's killing you! Really! End of rant Now you should play the Pet Peeve of the Day. I don't see Curry's pet peeves all day It is just one of many. So, uh... I thought i had a clip here that was something you missed? Uh... Well there are couple things you didn't have and you didn't play Paul Botch's attack Yeah but Ron Paul this is the problem he has somebody who used to How about Sharpton on Perry

CHAPTER 24 / 44 Discussion

Al Sharpton, Republican Candidate Fact Checks

Al Sharpton's analysis of Rick Perry is criticized for its lack of erudition, including a mispronunciation of "Galileo." The hosts contrast Sharpton's scripted delivery with Ron Paul's unscripted, authentic debate style.

al sharpton· ron paul· rick perry· galileo· teleprompter

1:20:17 Perry and he just mumbled and bumbled and misused words, and then if you play Al Sharpton who? Wraps up period in a in an analysis piece And you listen to two of them You say well these guys are not erudite by any means they come back-to-back him pushing for bailout money Supporting welfare for illegal immigrants and trying to forcibly vaccinate 12 year old girls against sexually transmitted disease He's your home state governor is the less conservative than meets the eye I Much more so, yes. Just take the HPV forcing 12 year old girls to take an inoculation to prevent this sexually transmitted disease This is not good medicine I do not believe. I think it's social misfit and its not good social policy

1:21:09 and therefore i think this is the reason he's very bad to do yes i've been there though agree covered a period of fair read me to his base uh... i think that uh... he hurt himself door with the general all public when you go through fact checks when they check out of his claims about jobs in minimum wage in texas I think he's going to get a little hit hard on that. The Ponzi scheme, science...I mean this whole thing of Galeo was outvoted! He really got out there. For his followers, I think he played to those seats whether they are the majority of the seats or not we'll see. Now have an analysis on this

1:21:53 So Ron Paul doesn't work with a teleprompter, doesn't work with the script and you know it's sometimes in when you're not complete I'm sure he doesn't train. No no he doesnt have canned responses And he doesn't train with all kinds of douchebags He is just real guy By the way You gotta tell me how to register to be Republican so i can vote for him because that my agenda Im voting for this guy Call the courthouse Do I have to call the court house? Well, let's find out where you can probably go over there and just change your Your we can't do it on the interwebs. Not that I know of yeah So I'm gonna because otherwise I'd just be changing yours to something else okay? Sharpton of course works off a script all the time Which is why he why he can't read you know why when it comes out stupid well What was that resist we much

1:22:49 resist we much and also Galeo. Galeo, no exactly so did he mean Galileo? Did he mean Galileo I think you meant Galileo or Fred Galeo I don't know So little secret for those of you who are new to the program all these people when they went on every single show including The Kardashians Every single show is scripted. It's written out and they can sometimes and I've had this you know, I I remember on MTV This was actually the headbangers ball it was like one of the first two or three shows that

1:23:28 And I was reading off the prompter, it was the last time I was reading off the prompter because we had a guy there. I forget what the band was... It was some heavy metal band and he was waiting for the interview and I'm reading of the prompter and instead of saying heretic I said heretic and I remember, it was like the name of their song or album. Heretic! And the guy after that says you're an idiot It's heretic You're an idiot That was the last time I read off a prompter at MTV Now I'm talking like 86-87 whatever I was doing that now Julia Gillard

CHAPTER 25 / 44 Discussion

Julia Gillard, Scripted Media Interviews

Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard is mocked for mispronouncing "hyperbole" while apparently reading from a teleprompter during an interview. This leads to a broader discussion on how "canned" interviews and electronic press kits (EPKs) are used to deceive the public into thinking scripted segments are live or spontaneous.

julia gillard· teleprompter· electronic press kit· janet jackson· space ghost

1:24:06 The Prime Minister of Gitmo Nation down under is also, even in an interview situation reading off a teleprompter. Please you have to believe it looks... It doesn't look that way but all of these things are scripted All of it! Its all scripted and they can't read for shit Do you trust the Foreign Minister? Well of course, Kevin is part of my team. Why after this week? Oh well Chris I'll leave the political commentary in hyperbole to you... I'll leave the hyperbole to you! She said hyperbowl?! She said hyperbowl!! It's hyperboly! Right and you would only say hyperbowl if you were reading it off a prompter. If your reading it!!! And if your thinking about the Super Bowl! Leave the political commentary in hyperbole to you.... She's reading off the prompter in a fake interview

1:24:55 There's no other, John you and I have been in media all our lives. You've made these mistakes... No you maybe not. I've made these mistakes. They have uh we always have to remind people that back in the olden days when you were getting started um they used to send out these 70s these 33 and a third records that were interviews with people. Right, yeah vinyl was actual vinyl it was vinyl actually came out as vinyl and you it was half of the interview and you'd have a list of questions and you slotted right in Yeah I'm here with so-and-so who's record producer or is a famous artist and we're here thank you for being on the show You're welcome good glad to be here So what your latest project?

1:25:40 My latest project is blah, blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And so uh... Is this gonna pay? Is this- you think it's gonna do well?" I think there's good you know it just hope the guy these things don't skip but they even gave you a script yeah and they gave me a script to what questions that at the time and i did that day and then later when i really started it was um uh humatic videotapes elect epk the electronic press kit and would have an interview with the questions cut out. And, I wish I could find it but I remember on countdown the show I did in The Netherlands and we're talking 83 We put it together and we promoted live satellite interview with Janet Jackson. And we had these answers, and she was like at her Malibu beach house...and the whole thing was promoted as a big lie! It was innocent but wasn't really. It wasn't innocent at all? It was a big lie? Yeah, and we put the fuzz in like oh-oh-oh you know and I actually because I yeah

1:26:34 We'd lose the connection at one point. That's really phoning it up Yeah, but people bought it hook line and sinker! Hook line and sinker This was kind of somewhat parodied and destroyed by a show that was on one of the cable stations called Space Ghost I've never seen that And space ghost was this character who they took these interviews They and then he just asked random weird questions Then had them and do those straight answers. It was this animated or I was the Space Ghost was animated But the person was real because it was from a video press release hold on a second Let me see if something here from the YouTube let's see if this is uh, let's see if this is good Kentucky Nightmare Hold on greetings welcome to the show is this my guest is Corey felt right? Yeah probably what's with the shark that's been there for over a year oh

1:27:32 Well, I don't remember it. Oh mom's yeah Where's his guest is that his guess? In the heat of conversation so unfortunately I got an episode that sucked okay well We'll look into its space go anyway So that's the eye there was the idea and it became kind of ludicrous And I've always and I think you know you see You know some parodies have a decadent on Leno where they're re-edited at press conference and things like that But no most of these things are amazingly rehearsed and they're canned. Canned is the word, and it's pathetic that the public doesn't know this I mean...I don't know I just, well i think it's one of the things we try to reveal on this show. I do have one clip if you can go back to your email I sent you a last minute clip which I guess I forgot that included and I did want to play this clip so if you pull that down but in the meantime can you there is also a clip I have here from... I only had two hands John! And then meanwhile could he also do this? Hold on I don't see it in uh..I don't see it in the email. Should be his last clip no

CHAPTER 26 / 44 Discussion

Jon Huntsman, Thirteen Dollar Oil Claim

Republican candidate Jon Huntsman cited a Milken Institute study claiming the "true" cost of oil is $13 per gallon when accounting for military deployments to secure sea lanes. The hosts dismiss this as a specious argument intended to support specific policy agendas.

jon huntsman· milken institute· oil prices· troop deployment· industrial base

1:28:33 uh... jayana john c warren agate no now you know i got no and i think he said it was in the beginning every time that's gotta kick out of this huntsman in thirteen dollar oil that he went off to deep end with a night actually got into a debate with but buzzkill junior who said uh... all your you can document these for you know this is an accurate bull crap species argument Just tell us about where you want this country to go in terms of what we have in such great abundance. Tell us where we think we can find that which we haven't converted into jobs and expanding our industrial base, and reminding the American people that they're not paying $4

1:29:18 per gallon for gas. When you add up the cost of troop deployments, when you add up the cost of keeping the sea lanes open for the importation uh... of imported oil, the bulking distribution and terming costs it's thirteen dollars a gallon so says the Milken Institute and I say the American people have had enough we need a president who is going to provide a little bit leadership in giving us some direction in opening up the opportunities What a bunch of crap! It's specious. Wait a minute, the Milken Institute is that the Mike Milken Institute? Yeah Michael I mean that was the thief well he was the fall guy let's face it so you actually had Buzzkill jr who was a millennial he popped up and said oh yeah no that's right where'd he get that from He got it from some other source besides the Milken Institute but what they did the meme is is

1:30:12 There's overhead involved with protecting our interests and going to war to get the oil, which is all specious. What if we didn't have the war and were still getting the oil imported? It was just a weird... I didn't expect to hear it from a Republican out of the blue like that. You mean Buzzkill Jr.'s a Republican? No no i'm talking about Huntsman. Okay. Buzzkill jr.'s an independent and uh... independent independent crackpot and uh... buzzed in a dependent by skill sorry and i just thought it was like why is the huntsman throwing this into pot but why isn't what do you think have no idea it's like to assuage somebody on some of these are not my guy

1:31:00 He was a willing participant of the administration. Come on, he's a democrat sitting there posing as a republican. Yeah I think that must be it. You know something else that was nuts speaking of you know subsidized stuff so we went to Malibu one of Mickey's actress friends who was smoking hot by the way she somehow finagled through whatever she finagled Mel Brooks' beach house Which is kind of cool. Yeah, because you know Mel Brooks and Anne Bancroft basically slept there And by the way it's the shittiest house on the block And the only thing that was cool was there was his director's chair from History Of The World Part 1 which I took a picture of but everything else just like yeah It's a crummy beach house and he and the guy is a real estate mogul He's got tons of beach houses all kinds of stuff So what was really nice cuz you know You go there in this like is that like five bedrooms so well That was very nice if we're invited

CHAPTER 27 / 44 Discussion

EBT Cards, Fast Food Restaurant Acceptance

A sign at a Jack in the Box in California announcing the acceptance of EBT cards sparks an investigation into SNAP benefits. While federal rules generally prohibit the purchase of hot prepared foods, several states including California and Arizona have implemented programs allowing welfare recipients to use cards at fast-food restaurants.

ebt cards· snap· jack in the box· jp morgan· food stamps

1:31:56 And so we stay overnight and everything, we go back. We actually took Canyon River Drive I think is what it's called. Were you in Brooks' bed? Yeah! Oh really?! I became very funny. There are a couple of lines that won't...I'm going to relent from my normal ribald humor. Go on. God forbid. So we basically drive through Calabasas which by the way is much better way to go than PCH And so yeah, we're feeling pretty good. But you know let's grab a milkshake just for a little sugar rush and we go to McDonalds drive-thru and they're like, I'm sorry the milk machine is not working! That happens a lot by the way where the milkshake machine is not working but I love how it was like, I'm sorry that milk machine isn't working! Okay thank you...and across the street there's Jack in The Box

1:32:52 And at this point Mickey's like, because you know she's not into any junk shit at all. Except the Kardashians apparently! Please don't hold that against her it's the only thing and so we go to Jack in the Box drive-thru and of course is what can I interest you in a new special meal? No, milkshakes... So we're waiting for these milkshakes and there's a sign on the door that says now accepting EBT cards inside Now do you know what EBT cards are? Isn't that the new either food stamp or welfare card, it's now a credit card for Visa or MasterCard. Yes run by JP Morgan they run that entire scam I'm like really so you can buy jack-in-the-box food

1:33:42 with your food stamps, essentially is what it is. Yeah why not? Well no you're not and this is what pissed me off because I went to look at on the website consulted the book of knowledge and there are rules about what you can and cannot buy with your food stamps You can't buy a hamburger No, I'll tell you why. So you can't buy beer wine liquor cigarettes or tobacco of course any non-food items such as pet foods which i think is wrong because what do you think we need to eat pet food so i think they should scrap that that will be part of our ticket by the way We'll say that you can buy uh... yeah people can buy dog food let's make it more uh... and cat food yes, a little overt And fish food

1:34:24 Vitamins and medicines, vitamins. You're not allowed to buy vitamins with your food stamp card but also here it is food that will be eaten in the store or hot foods so the only thing I can imagine...I didn't go inside obviously but what you could have some kind of like technicality where maybe if you buy inside and run out real quick then its not eaten in the store but it can only be cold foods whether they give you like cold fries The whole thing. And then they have junk food and luxury items. The Food and Nutrition Act of 2008 defines eligible food as any food or food product for home consumption, and also includes seeds and plants which produce food for consumption by SNAP households. That's the acronym

1:35:14 The Act precludes the following items from being purchased with SNAP benefits. Alcoholic beverages, tobacco products, hot food any food sold for on-premises consumption nonfood items such as pet foods soaps paper products medicines and vitamins household supplies grooming items and cosmetics are also ineligible for purchase with SNAP benefits And then again has a list soft drinks candy cookies snack crackers ice cream or food items and therefore eligible So ice creams okay Candy and cookies are okay. Soft drinks are okay. Seafood steak and bakery cakes are also food items, therefore OKAY! But a Jack in the Box taco is not okay? Well apparently it is because they're accepting it! Well I know but according to your list I'm saying... I don't know

1:36:05 Here it is, fast food restaurants want a slice of fast food stamp pie. A live 5 News one day ago by Mark Davenport. commentator on some TV station in South Carolina. For years people have used food stamps or EBT cards in grocery stores but now restaurants across the country are trying to get a piece of the pie, restaurants in Arizona California Florida and Michigan are already accepting EBT cards for the food but South Carolina has yet to follow so it's a local state thing although it says Department of Agriculture this is supplemental nutrition assistance program

1:36:44 food stamps blah blah blah apparently yeah it is okay in some states well it's a federal program Well that's, yeah no it's when I'm...yeah this is becoming baffling the more i'm reading this article and listening to you. So we'll look into that but just it surprised me! It just really and Jack in the Box is crap remember when 20 people died from Jack-in-the-Box like the E. coli scare? Remember that was like twenty years ago or so Yeah they killed a bunch of people. So uh this is being pulled up again from your neck of the woods or your family's neck of the woods in Washington

CHAPTER 28 / 44 Discussion

Burger King, Undercooked Meat PR Hit Job

Reports of undercooked hamburgers at Burger King locations in Washington State are characterized as a potential "hit job" following the company's acquisition by 3G Capital. The hosts note that similar health violations at McDonald's receive significantly less media attention.

burger king· 3g capital· e. coli· tacoma· food safety

1:37:21 And I think there's a hit job and this is maybe something for the Dvorak Horowitz unplugged show. I think there's a hit job out I did a little research on this now Burger King was just purchased or actually taken private by 3G capital and 3g capital, I think they own a big chunk of in bev who now owns Anheuser-Busch their food guys Their food investment group and they took burger king private for four billion dollars and then this little news report comes out which is clearly a PR job and I'll tell you why. It seems that there's a systemic problem with the Burger King grills at least, you know they're not maintained well and i think the real question that Burger King needs to ask themselves is how widespread is this problem?

1:38:11 Right now, we know the problem is in stores in seven Washington counties. The issue was first discovered in July when the Tacoma Pierce County Health Department inspected a Burger King in Puyallup. A hamburger needs to be cooked 155 degrees and every food establishment like Burger King or any food establishment has systems in place that make sure that food is cooked at the proper temperature Because of a grill malfunction many of the patties were not properly cooked The cause of undercooking a mechanical problem, whether it's the girls are getting old or they're not

1:38:46 not being cleaned thoroughly and so you have the flame is not hot enough. So that I think in and of itself should raise some red flags." In 1993, an E-coli outbreak due to undercooked meat at Jack in the Box restaurants sickened more than 700 people several of them in Washington State four children died. So I'm looking at this and then I go to Fox13 dot com or whatever this is the Tacoma station I think it is And they have a link to the Tacoma-Pierce County Health Department website and you can look at all of their investigations. And indeed, if you fill out Burger King, you can see a couple these restaurants that says violation! You know we noticed it was only 140 degrees instead 150 but I went one step further and filled out McDonald's and they have just as many violations for exactly the same thing

1:39:38 So I'd think that there is some kind of hit job out, and it has to be big financial...I couldn't find it by the way. I couldn't find out why And it probably has something to do with 3G capital, because this thing is all too recent. These guys just bought it they paid a nice premium on the price Burger King was already in a little bit of trouble and all of a sudden this news comes out that there's incredible journalists at Tacoma Pierce County Station Fox that you're telling me that they did some investigative work and oh we just discovered this? No! This is a PR piece I can't find it but maybe some of your fans up there can find it

CHAPTER 29 / 44 Discussion

McDonald's Peace Theory, Syria Conflict Analysis

The "McDonald's Peace Theory"—the idea that the U.S. never invades countries with McDonald's franchises—is tested against current conflicts. The hosts note the lack of franchises in Syria, Libya, and Afghanistan, while suggesting the Syrian conflict may be de-escalating due to Russian interests.

mcdonald's· iraq· egypt· syria· geopolitics

1:40:15 Well, finding is one thing but understanding the reason... Right. But there must be a 3G capital tie-in it has to do with.. The only thing I could find and the 3G capitals are Brazilian operation which is interesting in itself well I did find something very interesting and this is something we can check our book of knowledge on and our prediction our prediction book actually going forward It turns out that the United States has never invaded a country that has a McDonald's. Yeah, and so there in the book of knowledge... I find it impossible to believe that there was no McDonalds in Iraq? Well no! And almost impossibly there is no McDonalds in Egypt? Okay let me take a look

1:41:04 I find it impossible to believe that there's no McDonalds in Afghanistan? Hold on, first of all. I'm only going by the book of knowledge okay so... There is a book-of-knowledge entry list of countries with McDonald's franchises this by the way is apparently theory that more people are following and at know there was no McDonald's in Iraq they did in fact on the base where I was in Basra they had a Burger King But that was on the base Afghanistan also does not appear on the list But neither does Libya and either does let me see is Syria in here. No Syria not on the list What we were talking about? We're talking about Morocco the other day Not on the little area Algeria hold on a second Let me just check now Jerry not on the list well, they're doomed yeah So I think we I think we can pick let me just see if Morocco

1:42:04 Morocco nope not on the list so this is an interesting thesis so if they if you don't get a Burger King pretty quick I mean a McDonald's yeah then then you can be but there are in a lot of places and then a lot of interesting places see Japan Panama Germany El Salvador Guatemala Hong Kong Brazil Singapore Spain Malaysia will see if we can find any esoteric ones Macau Macau in Russia, Greece, Guadeloupe. Yeah so the theory is we have never invaded a country that has McDonald's in it So by the way we're on this topic I believe that the Syrian action has been called off Really? Yeah two days ago New York Times front page story was carried inside By the way can just say one thing We didn't invade Egypt

CHAPTER 30 / 44 Discussion

Grand Theft Auto 4, Anti-Terrorist Radio Propaganda

A radio station within the video game Grand Theft Auto IV, WKTT, features a segment where a host encourages a caller to shoot a "Spanish terrorist" on a train. The hosts describe this as a form of MKUltra-style psychological programming directed at young gamers.

grand theft auto iv· wktt· mkultra· psychological warfare· video games

1:43:11 You, uh... when I said that, I knew you-I thought you might. No! I see people in the chat room going, yeah man there's McDonalds in Egypt!! Yeah but we didn't invade Egypt That's why we have no foots on the ground Yeah and we're invading Libya not Egypt sorry I interrupted So... I like your depiction of the chat room Well it's in the corner of my eye It's like a hysterical old lady Let me break it up for a second. Just so we can get on something else Do any of your kids play video games? Yeah, they all play video games. Do they play Grand Theft Auto 4? They have. So you know have you ever played it? Not the newest I played some of the earlier versions. I find it tedious yeah Me too. They're fun though. In the car do you have radio stations

1:44:04 Yeah, so one of our producers went through the trouble of recording the radio stations and this is this game came out in 2008 and This is the radio station. You can select in Grand Theft Auto 4 is WKTT the Richard Bastion program Okay, we've got a live terror sighting hello you're on the Richard Bastion show yeah I'm on the train, and I see a guy who's a terrorist. This guy is really suspicious Okay good. What's he doing? He's sitting there reading some religious shit okay now How can you tell this shits religious what it what is it? What's going on with it sure it is It's in a different fucking language. It's Spanish or something

1:44:41 That is a sure sign, okay? Now what you're sitting across from right there is Al Conqueso. The Spanish terrorist the worst kind Okay They're already infiltrated into all our shitty jobs You know you see them outside uh various hardware stores waiting to just the next strike okay They are the most dangerous of all I cannot stress that enough now you know what you have to do don't ya? I sure do! I'm on 24-7 We're on a train There's kids everywhere Time to let it fly with some bullets and see That's what this bastard is all about. Dude, thanks a lot Richard! Eat lead you Alcone queso mother f**ker! This is MKUltra if I've ever heard of it. This is programming the young people of America, forget the pimps and hookers in that game and crashing their cars this is real psychological warfare being played on our children El Conqueso With cheese! That's really unbelievable to me

CHAPTER 31 / 44 Discussion

Damascus Mall Photos, Syrian Media Narrative

The New York Times published photos of crowded shopping malls in Damascus, contradicting the narrative of a city under total siege or in a state of constant atrocity. The hosts suggest the reality on the ground in Syria is being misrepresented by Western media.

damascus· syria· bashar al-assad· new york times· media skepticism

1:46:02 It really, really blew me away. There's probably a lot of stuff in the game like that Yeah well we've caught lots of stuff even when they literally talk about MKUltra but this is really it This stuff is real man So back to Syria Okay New York Times did this big special and all the Syria coverage has disappeared But it began with this article about What's the capital of Syria? Damascus or is that Lebanon? I think it's Damascus. So they show a big mall loaded with shoppers

1:46:53 Saying the shoppers in downtown Damascus are don't even pay and there's just nothing going on This whole thing is old crap, and they're all shopping away Wait a minute wait a minute isn't Assad like a horrible man then isn't he like killing people? And uh...and people are rioting against him. Yeah his horrible atrocities against the shoppers Hey! You shopper stop that I'm shooting you you shopper Wow. Yeah, and there was all these... There's this photo of a mall that was just jammed with people you know just shopping

1:47:29 and supposedly was taken like within the last day or so, and there was a big article about how nobody in Damascus thinks anything's going on at all. So it's all bogus! Well I think we've already kind of established that we've done... We always thought everything is bogus Right but the United States has done a deal with the Russians because of course the Russian have their naval base there And i think we will kick the Chinese out There aren't you know if there's any Chinese in the China's get out because that's what it's all about But I don't think they want to mess up that country. They don't have a lot of oil Then I have a lot of stuff, and yeah, I think we're already good the Russians the Ruskies like hey You gave us Exxon cool will take care of this Don't worry about it gotcha got your back bro got you covered on the other side South Sudan you know the George Clooney region where he's got his eye in the sky um There is now a call in the United Nations

CHAPTER 32 / 44 Discussion

South Sudan, NATO Security System Proposal

There is a proposal within the United Nations to include South Sudan in the NATO security mandate. The hosts argue this is a geopolitical move to secure oil interests and counter Chinese influence in the region following the country's recent independence.

south sudan· nato· george clooney· oil· united nations

1:48:25 for NATO, which stands for North Atlantic Treaty Organization. North Atlantic to include South Sudan in NATO's security system whereby South Sudan... Are you going to move it to the north atlantic? How do you put an African country in NATO? Most people are like yeah that's on the Atlantic isn't it? Let's go out on the street! Where is South Sudan? Uh..South Atlantic South Sudan would be included in NATO's mandate and hence any aggression on South Sudan would be considered an aggression on all of the NATO countries. In other words, a Q attack! We've been waiting for this to happen...

1:49:12 So that's a blatant setup. The Sudan thing is really... First you have the phony fighting going on, there was some genocide we don't know too much about. George Clooney shows up and next thing you know they have a big election and split the country in half somehow I don't how that worked Yeah, oil. Now you got South Sudan and now they're still battling going on along the border where the oil wells are and now they want them to join NATO so we can make sure that... I think this has got something to do with China too. China? China and the oil. There's some probably.. We have probably not been following it close enough. I think we were dropping the ball on the Sudan thing Well it was boring! We were distracted by Syria yeah well there's one thing there's one report from Libya that I liked very much

CHAPTER 33 / 44 Discussion

Missing Libyan Missiles, Human Rights Watch Report

Human Rights Watch reports that approximately 20,000 surface-to-air missiles have gone missing in Libya. U.S. officials express concern that these weapons, including Russian Igla-S missiles, could fall into the hands of Al-Qaeda or other terrorist organizations.

libya· surface-to-air missiles· human rights watch· al-qaeda· stinger missiles

1:49:58 which will give so much credence, now this was CNN of course. Spokeshold BS network and they do this report with another one of these nondescript reporters you never heard or heard of in an interview with a human rights watch guy I don't know if they're any good that organization be on the lookout for this This is by the way we'll play right into our next segment on the show. This box contained two missiles and four power sources The Igla-S can shoot down a plane flying as high as 11,000 feet. It's the Russian equivalent of the US made Stinger missile

1:50:35 The US supplied hundreds of stingers to the Afghan Mujahideen during the Soviet occupation, then spent millions of dollars trying to buy them back fearing they'd fall into the hands of terrorists. Squander Bukharta of Human Rights Watch has been tracking these weapons in Libya for months. In every city we arrive And the first thing to disappear are the surface-to-air missiles. We're talking about some 20,000 missing surface-to-air missiles in all of Libya and I've seen cars packed with them." If Bukhart's assessment is accurate thousands of surface-to-air missiles could be on the loose American officials worry they might end up with Iran Al Qaeda or other terrorist groups. Yeah! Al Qaeda that's what's gonna happen next

1:51:26 Did he say Kaida or Al-Qaeda? I think he said al Qaeda but it could easily have been Kaida. Let's listen again. ...of surface to air missiles could be on the loose American officials worry they might end up with Iran, Al-Qaeda or other terrorist groups... Not sure what he says. ...turn all of North Africa into a no fly zone I want to have one of those. I need to get me one of those Russian surface-to-air missiles, to take out the drones. Good luck with that. Donation time! Don't you mean donation time? He means Adam's got another story about drones. Drones...

CHAPTER 34 / 44 Discussion

Nigeria, Currency Shift to Chinese Yuan

The Central Bank of Nigeria announced plans to convert up to 10% of its $33 billion foreign reserves from U.S. dollars into Chinese Yuan. This move by Africa's top oil exporter is viewed as a significant shift away from the dollar and toward Chinese economic alignment.

nigeria· chinese yuan· foreign reserves· lamido sanusi· beijing

1:52:12 is it so a kind of al-qaeda kinda whatever you want to call the way they can expect that to be using at the word kaya so now i'm convinced that they did and i and i kept this story the one that uses al qaeda loaded with all kinds of information everyone needs like stuff that you should be reading its attacks he did definitely read this is when it was in al-qaeda headline new york times article there's no other code about africa and uh... get this is west africa which kind of fits in everything in Nigeria and here's another anti-China story. Nigeria is West Africa's largest economy, it is selling US dollars for Chinese yuan. The Nigerian central bank governor Lamido Sanusi

1:53:03 who sells kitchens apparently, said in Beijing today that Africa's top oil exporter will convert as much as 10% of its here it comes $33 billion dollars in foreign reserves from US dollars into Chinese Yuan. Central banks use foreign reserve to manage their own currency value so that to me was a now if we've ever seen the coded message this is one 33 billion, there's your magic number. They're gonna convert 10% of it from US dollars into Chinese shekels China shekels So that's usually how you get into a lot of trouble by doing that stuff Yeah, that seems to be the case I'm gonna show my support By donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do this Oh yeah! That'd be fab! Yeah! On NO AGENDA

CHAPTER 35 / 44 Discussion

Associate Executive Producer Credits, Belgian Listener Feedback

The hosts read a long list of donations from "Associate Executive Producers" across the globe, including the UAE, Poland, and the UK. A Belgian listener, Sir Chris Healand, requests that the hosts stop mocking Belgium, leading to a discussion about the country's long period without a formal government.

value for value· donations· knighthood· belgium· karma

1:54:00 We have a few donors that need mentioning including Christian Herzog in Elwood, Illinois. 1-2-3 dot 4 5 I value what you guys are doing and want to help you make it continue by continuing my support! I've taken on some new roles at work and Karma shot would be appreciated. You've got karma I also know some listeners who are still boners rather than donors, but be warned you may get called out. Be on the lookout! Thanks from future knight Zogg. I like that. Zogg. J-Zogg... Zogg... Sir Zogg. Zogg. Julian Collins and Carlsten? Car-Carshelton. Carshelton. Good job. Surrey. One cent for each day since NATO started bombing for peace?!

1:54:57 What does that come out to? Multiply by the number of days since I got laid. Plus 333. 108 dollars and 93 cents No sex for you! Adam Colby is sir. Adam Colby to you minosh, Wisconsin 100 bucks Gregory size more in the Arab Emirates another great show guys and other techno expert joins the na ranks That's our code for sysadmin who can mess stuff up real good when the bat signal goes out welcome my friend mickel I Wyszynski? Hold on, we have a clip! In the morning. My first name is... that's the easy one... Mikołaj and my last name is Łączyński. Mikołaj Łączyński. Mikołaj Łączyński

1:55:50 that's a pronounced people now sending in their pronounced pronunciation clips for you eyes and poland says seventy three thirty seven he said now added up going to my an eric's calculations donations should make me a night school even when we the first night and get mo nation kill basa the country then use a lot not only mhm a lot of media assassinations i will send you the correct pronunciation of my name in email which she just did uh... good idea by the way zinia kovalov could be Kovalov in Moscow. I think it's Kovalyov. Could be $69 Swazant Nuf for the good karma keep up the great work you've got karma

1:56:39 uh... you a ms mon or who's mom in ludwig sberg is that in holland not as germany for so what and then she said he had four is a guy's name and puta is a girl's names it will meet with the with the middle of sounds like a letterman on the new can be awards uh... sixty six dollars and sixty-six cents agareth Kuchinkas, Southington Connecticut. Double nickels on the dime Jeff Roachlin in Redondo Beach California 5510 In The Morning Fellow has been a while since I donated so i thought I'd try and improve my karma You've got karma This show keeps me from going nuts on the freeway Yeah let me tell you

1:57:26 Joshua Pettigrew, double nickels on the dime Monticello Arkansas in the morning John Natum big like to give out a belated birthday shout-out to my wife Jessica September 7th second happy birthday baby considering Fareed Zakaria and parliamentary systems well I'm not for empire building it's funny that the cheerleaders for war talk of spreading democracy and American values yet these countries we invade chose parliamentary systems Why don't they model their governments on our system? Thanks for the greatest, the greatest podcast ever. And down we go to the spreadsheet. Stefan Schnabel

1:58:13 Gus Port Hampshire UK been too long since donating a reminder to others your bi-weekly wakeup calls are such a breath of fresh air and the quagmire of so called real news keep them coming all the best from Steve and Sue up in the riot free for now anyway Highlands of Scotland Tim Schallberger Lake Oswego Oregon need some karma for some home inspection to go well you guys are they highlight of my week You've got karma Sir Jeffrey Gerlach and Alamo once another you missed one Scott Hankel Oh Scott. Hello, Scott Hankel Sunland California 5337 Jeffrey Gerlach sir Jeffrey Gerlach to you alamo, California Please mention the podcast for peace and a handout of dosa karma if you would you've got karma

1:59:07 We have Andrew Soos in Melton, South Victoria. $50 Brian Baird in Mount Pleasant Michigan been listening to the show for a few months is my first donation so please de-doosh me and hit him some karma. You've been de-dooshed you've got karma Daniel Armstrong in the Arab Emirates or I guess AE, I think is. AP said overseas in the military $50 David Middlebrook Ellen Aberdeenshire. David Stenberg and North Situate Rhode Island $50 John Bolin Byron New York $50 thanks Adam for plugging my song government

1:59:57 Song government. Yeah, I talked about him he we met him at the chick-shinny meetup He drove for two days from upstate New York To come down to the meeting and he has like this real punk rock Government it's funny It's a it's like it's a real raw punk rock song I will continue to build virtual billboards in the APB reloaded social district and punch people in the mouths. I don't get paid on sales of music until three months after the sale, so hopefully I'll have a couple dollars that throw into you guys in November. Till then I'll send 50 whatever I can 25% of the way to knighthood give yourself some karma and the government of New York a douchebag You've got karma

2:00:43 And government's and thanks to John Gabriel Boland tell Adam it's Bowlin not ballin as since you always screw up the names Adam should get credit for screwing up mine a few weeks ago I accept the credit. Thank you so much will you vouch for me, and then finally sir Chris feeling in Brussels healing 50 dollars. Dear John, I'm a few episodes behind but please don't make fun of the Belgian people like you did three weeks ago we might not have a government for more than 450 days over a year you still shouldn't mock us. Belgen sind luka menschen vorwurf und echt will lernen kennen

2:01:33 You can't even, you're not even seeing the letters properly when you mess it up. What is it? I mean read it again but pay attention. Very good now that was actually understandable. Huh! Good job okay and of course... what did I say? I don't know. What do you mean you don't know Oh, you just said now I thought what did you say something bad about the Belgians? I don't know there. No no What did I say what does this mean? Belga San Luke san Luca man's feelings a Philly to Kenneth Belgians are really nice people for those of us who take the trouble to get to know us oh I love the Belgians I Watch I've watched almost all the poros

2:02:25 Alright, was that it? That's it. And that is Sir Chris Healand proud Duke in the Barony of Baron Steven von Pelsmachers Yes our top patron on this show is a Belgian And so if you I don't recall you making fun of the Belgians John, uh, I think you should not do that. Don't take a ever have okay? I love the Belgians Serenity hell says absolutely loving adore your show. I find it informative and most hilarious I want to know if he can give me a huge shot of karma I was let go two days ago and need any help with my search for steady income. My life is hell, but work helps also want to know if i can snail mail my cash slash money order to the contract contact address listed yes you can that's on the Dvorak dot org slash NA page so serenity here ya go You've got karma Sorry a little loud

CHAPTER 36 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Business Model, Knighting Ceremony

The "Value for Value" business model is reiterated, emphasizing that the show is supported solely by listeners rather than advertisers. A formal knighting ceremony is conducted for Sir Nico DeHaan and Sir Mikolaj Laczynski for their significant financial contributions.

value for value· knighthood· nico dehaan· mikolaj laczynski· podcasting

2:03:23 Yes, so we are indeed a brand new business model. If people actually paid attention to what we're doing, we would be writing the next Management and Building Great Companies book because the way we do this is no commercial messages, no commercial interruptions. We don't take any money from anybody except the people who see some value for the value that we're providing to them. This is the product, what you're hearing right now. You are not the product, you are not being sold to anybody, you are not obligated to give anything back to us but when you do, you are guaranteed that this show will continue as long as you do it en masse and of course we still need more listeners please help us out with that and uh... as a part of the model We block people on Twitter, we tell them to go away, we don't listen to what they have to say. We hate the Belgians

2:04:12 Oh my god. So of course we will be knighting Nico DeHaan coming up as Ellen Heerstehan very kindly gave him a beautiful birthday present. I guess it was for today's show even though we do have his show on the 11th, just want to make sure that he gets his happy birthdays for the 12th From Ellen. Congratulations, Nico! Joshua Pettigrew congratulates his wife Jessica Her birthday was on September 2nd and Marty Williamson congratulates his daughter Rachel who will be turning 18 on September 10th Congratulations from all of your buddies here at the show that turns you away It's The No Agenda Show Oh crap what did I do there? Ah, Jim Varo

2:05:09 It's your birthday, yeah! Yeah. What? Oh brother... Thanks Having one of those moments here. Slickston. Yeah it was really good Draw your blade Dvorak Here Nice Niko to Han step forward my friend Kneel and extend your finger the same goes for Nikola La'inski I think i pronounced it properly Both of you now are welcome into a very exclusive club as your donations have received the amount of $1,000 or more we hereby pronounce these Sir Niko and Sir Nikolai Knights on the no agenda roundtable Hot pants and booze right over there Join the rest of the crew

2:06:03 And your rings will be in the... We have to order new rings, John. You ignored the email! You're ignoring the shill but if you know if you ignore it then just comes to a head so we gotta like do another order seriously okay well that prove it already guys waiting I'm behind my work so people just said he backed into the meat grinder just so people know John does all the finances on this show and take care That's good. I do the production and everything Why are you doing this? Am i saying something weird is it something wrong? Yeah, that was I was I was uh doing like a little blues Uh call in the return kind of thing You know you said something

CHAPTER 37 / 44 Discussion

60 Minutes WikiLeaks Segment, Pfizer Sponsorship

A 60 Minutes segment on WikiLeaks is criticized for being sponsored by Pfizer. The hosts point out the irony of a major pharmaceutical company sponsoring a news story about a whistleblowing organization that has notably never released damaging cables regarding "Big Pharma."

60 minutes· wikileaks· pfizer· julian assange· big pharma

2:06:53 I'm helping you. Okay, hey this is one of our producers sent this in and i really appreciate that was pretty funny big story on CBS 60 minutes about WikiLeaks pay attention this is how your commercial media works unlike your no agenda show which will gladly block you and send you away since our interview first aired in January WikiLeaks has continued to release documents on its website but it's donations have fallen off considerably Also, a number of websites have tried to copy the Wikileaks model of soliciting secrets including several in the mainstream media. Go to 60minutesovertime.com to hear how Julian Assange's Wikileak story almost never happened sponsored by Pfizer. By the way notice there is never a Wikileak cable about Big Pharma?

CHAPTER 38 / 44 Discussion

Obama Camp David Travel, Double President Theory

A report from CNN regarding President Obama's travel to Camp David is used to support a "Double Obama" theory. The President reportedly left on Marine One but arrived at the retreat by car despite clear weather, leading to speculation about a "switch" occurring at a site near Frederick, Maryland.

barack obama· camp david· marine one· frederick maryland· conspiracy

2:07:48 Not if it's sponsored by Pfizer. Exactly! My point exactly, it is all scripted ladies and gentlemen this is why we live in obscurity and poverty because we are not scripted and were just calling as we see it not always right but the way we just call it as we see it We're right more often than wrong that for sure So one of the things that we've talked about since 2008 ever since there were two inaugurations of President Obama one in public and then one in private without any press that there are actually two Obamas. Two President Obama's, there is the one who is gray and there is the one that out in the country going hello everybody what a start of this! Hey unions are good shared prosperity and I have proof but they're too obama's finally as CNN reports slips up and gives me proof that their R2 Obama's may share this with you John yeah hit no I have to read it now course all the good stuff has never on video

2:08:50 President Barack Obama left for Camp David on Marine One on Friday, but in a twist that has left some White House reporters scratching their heads. He apparently arrived at the presidential retreat by car so he leaves on the helicopter But arrives by car The White House press secretary Jay Carney explained the decision not to land at Camp David was made in advance because of the weather Marine one landed at an alternate site near Frederick, Maryland spook central and the president and his daughter Sasha rode in a motorcade the west of the for the rest of the way to the compound however Even CNN concurs there were no signs of stormy weather in the area whatsoever The White House confirms. There were no mechanical issues with the helicopter And people are not understood so this is the switch took place they sent the wrong guy To Camp David to party

2:09:46 So they had to switch, so they landed in Fredericksburg and that's when the other guy jumped in the car and drove the rest of the way. I wonder what he does about the daughters? Don't they have duplicates of them? Who says there are not four of them? There could be. They could be drones! There could be bots! Well, I don't know but I think that is a stretch for me is a stretch that their bots okay all right it's a little bit of a stretch possible so another this is something that is very important especially for our sysadmins

CHAPTER 39 / 44 Discussion

Facebook Board, Erskine Bowles and Google Ties

Erskine Bowles, a former Clinton chief of staff, has joined the board of directors at Facebook. The discussion links this to several former Google employees now working in the Obama administration, suggesting a coordinated effort to use private demographic data for political targeting and election messaging.

facebook· erskine bowles· google· demographic data· obama administration

2:10:29 People who care about Facebook and Google and all the crap that they're doing, tracking us. I just want to explain how this works but it's very important now This is part of our Shadow Puppet Theater! As yesterday Facebook announced that Erskine Bowles has joined the board of directors of Facebook Now all the reports are saying oh this guy used to be chief-of-staff to President Bill Clinton That's not important Erskine Bowles is a board member of General Motors, Morgan Stanley North Carolina Mutual Life Insurance Company and also co-chaired our current president's National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. Sounds like the exact guy you need at Facebook right? So let me explain how this works it's the same as Google Let me tell about a couple people in the current administration who come from Google What's his name

2:11:27 Summit Agarwal, I have no idea what Nationality Summit Agarwal is. Is the Deputy Assistant of Defense for Outreach and Social Media in the office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense Andrew McLaughlin former head of global public policy and government affairs for Google. Yes, that's the department Public Policy and Government Affairs is now deputy chief technology officer in the Office of Science and Technology And Katie Jacob Stanton is a former Google product manager who was also involved in the company's elections project Is now the director of citizen participation? In The White House and why is this important I

2:12:09 Because when you are running an election, the thing you win on... well there's two things you win on. One is you win on having the most money for advertisements and we know that President Obama has already said we're going out for a billion dollars this time A BILLION! A billion dollars to buy ads with which is why the media sucks their schlong But you need to know the exact demographics of everybody. And so while we're very concerned about our email being read and about people spying, about locking us up see something say something what's really going on is these companies first Google now Facebook with this shill coming on board they are actually and they have departments they have government departments where they sell demographic data so that they can better target their messaging to you it's

2:12:57 all about the advertising and here's now Facebook joining that exclusive club by putting the shill on their board of directors. And this is what no one ever talks about, is that the data because you know Coca-Cola can buy the data right? McDonald's can buy the data Why not the Obama campaign? Well, they're buying it. But they're forcing them more force forcing it by just putting people in there and saying I and they know everything about you when they know exactly how to talk to you and exactly how to advertise so that you will elect a president that you deserve was a pretty peculiar pick for a board guy on that company but your dead on this whole thing is a scam

2:13:42 But you know, Facebook has long since been co-opted. I mean remember the report somebody did on Facebook? They were over at the office and there was the head of FBI just casually roaming around... It was in Time Magazine! Yeah! Oh look who's here! It was in Time...I can probably find that article for ya. It wasn't it was a Zuckerberg, it was the big Let me see Zuckerberg FBI I'm going to search dot na show notes calm here you go Boom, what do we have? This is so cool And by the way that could take that email again because I think you should have that clip Okay, let's check the emails again. You may just be going to spam or maybe I've blocked ya No, no, I look back and somehow guess they hit them close instead of send. I don't know

CHAPTER 40 / 44 Discussion

WikiLeaks Iraq Report, Robert Mueller at Facebook

A WikiLeaks report describing the "execution-style" killing of a five-month-old infant in Iraq is questioned for its terminology. Additionally, a Time Magazine story about FBI Director Robert Mueller "bursting in" to meet Mark Zuckerberg at Facebook headquarters is mocked as a staged PR event.

wikileaks· robert mueller· fbi· mark zuckerberg· time magazine

2:14:33 It's so hard this email thing, isn't it? It is. Well it is when you have two buttons right next to each other that one of them closes and the other one sends it There are two whole buttons! This is outrageous Alright... Thaum Is that the one? Thaum yeah You're trying to do your research there Do you want me to play it? Well, first of all I wanted to give you a little background on this. Apparently WikiLeaks has some other leak that nobody's really playing up much about some murders that took place during the Bush administration in Iraq but then I found out the wording and the actual description what happened and tell me...I want you visualize what he is describing it tell me how this works when play it

2:15:15 Here we go. What? A five year old infant? Five month, wow How do you do an execution-style killing of a five... Okay, kid. Neil! Neil. Oh God. Turn around So what was the conversation you and Buzzkill Jr had? That must have been funny We were saying What is a 5 month old execution style does this make any sense to anybody? That's pretty scary It's not scary it's idiotic it's not even possible

2:16:01 So what do you... By the way, I want to remind people that one of the things that you get out of our show and why should be contributing is because it makes you get more out of the news. You get an entertainment level off some of these stupidities that these people spew just like is an eye roller. That was an eye roller sorry Know it's sick. I'm sure the kid was said someone was killed, but it was execution style I don't think so on the afternoon of November 16th 2010 Mark Zuckerberg was leading a meeting in The Aquarium one of Facebook's conference rooms So named because it's in the middle of a huge workspace and has glass walls on three sides so everybody can see In the door opened I did I need some like

2:16:47 The door opened. A distinguished looking gray haired man burst in, it's the only way to describe his entrance, trailed by a couple of deputies He was both the oldest person in the room by 20 years and the only one wearing a suit He was in the building, he explained with a delighted air of a man about to secure ironclad bragging rights forever. And he just had to stop in and introduce himself to Zuckerberg. Hi I'm Robert Mueller director of the FBI pleased to meet you This is the guy who got extended, right? He got the expedition. Yeah against all the laws that were put in place to keep somebody from becoming another head of the FBI like J Edgar Hoover you know it was just a nightmare so they put all these laws in place and of course they just... we like this guy let's leave him in So lemme just repeat he was in the building anyway yeah I was just down there grabbing some files

2:17:48 Decided to stick my head in then get some bragging rights. Hey Robert Mueller FBI So it was just I'm sorry, that's just ridiculous a ridiculous story and the fact that this time magazine guy Just lapped it up Sometimes it takes a couple years but justice will be served In Seven, I think seven or eight. Uh...I brought up a topic on a radio show on a radio station called Aero Classic Rock in the Netherlands

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Joris Demink Investigation, Dutch Justice System Scandal

Five years after Adam Curry first discussed allegations against Dutch Justice Secretary General Joris Demink, two Turkish men have formally filed charges of abuse. Curry recounts how his previous radio station in the Netherlands was allegedly shut down for covering this story.

joris demink· netherlands· turkey· child abuse· aero classic rock

2:18:32 And the story was about the Secretary General of the Dutch justice system. His name is Joris Demink and the story was that he has systematically been raping and abusing children not only in The Netherlands but also in Turkey And not only was I taken off the air, but the entire station is gone Their license was revoked their financing dried up and it's gone Gone within three months after the statement on 5th of September. It looks like I'm going to be right two Turkish men have formally charged the Secretary General

2:19:18 in the Netherlands and the Justice Department is going to have to open up an investigation. These two Turkish men say that indeed they were abused by Yoruc Demink when they were 12 and 15 years old so we'll see if justice is served but it's always interesting uh... to note that something I picked up on five years ago is now finally coming to the forefront. And you managed to get the station shut down! Yay, good job! Good work! This by the way is another reason we have to go with a donation model because I'm working with Adam Curry

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No Agenda ABCs Children's Book, Tour DVD Project

The hosts discuss the development of a "No Agenda ABCs" children's book illustrated by a producer named Jay, featuring memes like "Opt-Out" and "WTC7." Additionally, a 250-page book/DVD project documenting the 2008 "Hot Pockets" tour is being finalized by Mickey Curry.

no agenda abcs· opt-out· wtc7· hot pockets tour· mickey curry

2:20:02 Hey, man. Tell me about that show you're working on yeah, it's really good I'm working with Adam Curry oh You still got power you still got water at your place man Yeah hey by the way in that you sent out a nice letter we both sent out a nice letter to everybody so the producers were on the mailing list and If you're not on the mailing list, you need to get on it. Please get on the mailing list and there was a really nice illustration There from Jay's forthcoming book and I want you to talk about that because I'm very excited We got her to do we wanted talked about this some time ago That is gonna be the no agenda ABCS A kid's book And it's gonna have all the letters of the alphabet covered by you know in the illustration that came in The mail was

2:20:49 Oh is stands for opt-out and this is something all children should have the book of no agenda memes that are important opt out being one of them and of course it shows some sleazeball you know pervert feeling up somebody. And she's a good, she's a really good illustrator and amazing. It's great! She got the whole book Done and we just have to piece it together and put the letters you know put that the Letters, and then find a little printer. I remember we I remember We were working on that over email right yeah? We needed is a letter for each or some meaning on each letter of the alphabet And what's Q do we have keywords for Kaida oh

2:21:35 I don't know what Q is. I'd have to look in the list It should be Kaida, but I don't think it is. I think Q's something else Let me take a look Do you have the list there? Yeah, I do. I have illustrations and each one has their name The thing with this book...it needs to be updated from time-to-time because new memes come out like here's a new one Captured or killed that's the meme of the day That's the new way You'll see that in America too by the way Right now its being used for Gaddafi Captured or killed it's gonna be used for anybody. We've got Q is quarantine I think it, I think we need to change it to Kaida Oh maybe? I don't know if she wants to go back and do any more drawings You want just go down the list real quick and just give us the... Yeah we got alien for A

2:22:20 That was my contribution. Yeah, great boots on the ground chemtrails douchebag Elite false flag get mo nation human resources in the morning jabroni Good nights Lucifer Clinton magic number mmm nothing to see here Which is the funny illustration because it's just a blank sheet. It was empty, that was the hardest one to do. Opt out which is included on the email. Pre-crime quarantine real news shut up slave two to the head UFO vaccinations we need cash x-ray machine you can take that to the bank and zero tolerance

2:23:10 I think we need to come something else for we need cash because that's it just send us your cash We need something else for the W George W Obama what double George W Obama? Well, that's be a G. It has to be the first thing. Okay we can come up with something else for the W if she wants to do another drawing otherwise it stays No I'm not doing another drawing! She got stuck at about 20 and she had six to go and it was like when are you gonna do this six? Don't be like your parents actually get something done come on you can do it

2:23:46 This, by the way it's a- Oh! We got one. Jay said Buzzkill Jr just came up with the W What is it? It's a beauty You gonna tell us? WTC7 Ooooooooh! Won't go away I love it That's perfect W T C 7 won't go away Alright so I'm going to have talk her into that. That's an easy one She can just draw a pile of rubble Yeah With Giuliani going I don't know Or just pull it or something like that. Well luckily somebody did she had enough compliments on the opt-out drawing That I can probably talk her into doing one more now, that'd be cool if she didn't I'm very proud of her and miss Mickey by the way is another no agenda so She started working on the know agenda Hot Pockets 2008 tour book and she's doing it in just to get the idea for a layout she did it in the Apple Book Creator

2:24:46 Which has a limit of 100 pages for some reason like sorry no more pages for you But she actually has closer to like really when you look at it 250 pages so instead of a book The idea is to turn this into a DVD and And I guess we'll make the DVD available. And then if you want to buy prints of... Because there's so many great pictures, mainly a lot of great beautiful Mickey-like pictures which are really art stuff she does. Beautiful things and also broken things that we saw on the tour but there are so many pictures of people that I'm sure people want to have some of these group shots and some individual shots So well i think will be making a dvd available and then now you can order prints from the dvd

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Bill Clinton's 65th Birthday, Inside Job Producers

Bill Clinton celebrated his 65th birthday on Martha's Vineyard with guests including the Rothschilds and Carlos Slim. The hosts highlight the presence of Jeffrey and Christina Lurie, the owners of the Philadelphia Eagles and producers of the financial crisis documentary "Inside Job," noting the irony of their elite status.

bill clinton· martha's vineyard· rothschild· inside job· jeffrey lurie

2:25:32 Sounds good. Yeah, then finally just from the elite file that would be e in the No agenda primer book for kids former president bill Clinton celebrated his birthday Martha's Vineyard over the weekend a longtime island visitor who turned 65 last month was joined for the party at Herring Creek Farms barn by host Linda Rothschild and Vernon and Anne Jordan, and the Rothschild's husband Sir Evelyn the Rothschild all who also have birthdays within a month of each other. The night included square dancing dinner and a surprise performance by Carly Simon and Ben Taylor I guess James won't do it anymore. A surprise performance? She just showed up yeah look who is in the audience ladies and gentlemen come on up Carly

2:26:18 Come on up, Carlo. We got a guitar for you. Wanna play a little song? Oh sure! I think she plays piano Now here's what caught my eye Whatever Partiers included Hillary Rodham Clinton By the way can you just imagine her square dancing? Clippity-clop clippity-clop And swing your partner round and round Clippity-clap clippity-clop The world's richest man Carlos Slim And here is the interesting one Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie and wife Christina Lurie And I went, hey! Do you know who they are? Do you know what they did? Jeffrey and Christina. Well before they owned the Eagles They produced Inside Job Oh... oh Exactly! That's exactly the feeling i had They actually got the Oscar for best documentary They produced it

2:27:18 The freaking elites produced one of, and I have to say it was a pretty good documentary. It was enjoyable! So you know you think they you know they produced it and then maybe they're like just have no incentive to go in and promote more or do anything this is this is no good. This very disappointing to me actually So what was this party about again? Clinton's birthday. It was Clinton's birthday? Yeah Bill yeah and all the rich, the richest douchebags in the world were there and these guys are there who produced that movie Wow! Yeah they're probably going like hey that was great man we you got a job of misdirection with that movie he did that movie and then we're still out here partying Carlos Limas has slapped him on the back saying good work boy Good work

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Museum of Obsolete Objects, High Speed Rail Propaganda

A series of videos titled "The Museum of Obsolete Objects," promoted by PR firm Hill & Knowlton, is criticized as propaganda. The videos label incandescent light bulbs and radios as obsolete, which the hosts argue is part of a broader corporate and government messaging campaign. The show concludes with a reminder of the upcoming 9/11 anniversary broadcast.

museum of obsolete objects· hill and knowlton· incandescent bulbs· high speed rail· propaganda

2:28:10 Party come on Hillary clippity-clop clip any clap good job Wow, and I know this sad And I do want to point out that we missed an important movie premiere moment And this came to me when two running shoes containing would look like human remains were found in Victoria Monday afternoon but police think they're a hoax Of course we had foots in the ocean, noagendafoots.com I wish someone would do a hoax and then have the No Agenda logo inside Well it's a promotion and i figure out what its for It's for the new movie Footloose We could've figured that one out easy Yeah yeah no brainer And then for our final entry I'd like to play you a clip John which was promoted by Hill & Knowlton Our friends of high speed rail industry The oil industry

2:29:01 Everybody else in between. They'll take anybody's money, they'll work for Satan if he pays is literally the chairman's quote They're promoting this little creative agency you okay? Yeah I thought you fell sound like you fell over That's what I'm prone to do while seated. I don't know it could happen Just want to make sure you're okay You know um they did a so they promoted this video Actually, it's more than a video is a series of videos by this small creative agency and the agency has come up with something called the museum of obsolete while our daily lives become more and more difficult Some things just vanish They simply became obsolete Let's remember these items

2:29:59 In the Museum of Obsolete Objects. Okay, The Museum of Obsolete Objects John! This is what it's being promoted to our slaves What do you think it in the museum of obsolete objects? I would say a vinyl record Yes that's in there A typewriter yes thats in ther A buggy whip? Not in there. Should be... Yeah? Horse buggy maybe? Actually a radio was in the Museum of Obsolete which I thought was- What?! Yeah it was borderline, borderline. Borderline obsolete But this one is the kicker The incandescent light bulb. Produce light by heating a metal filament wire to high temperature Now they've got this like, like a transformer knob and then you turn the knob and light the light bulb This obsolete filament bulb Until it glows Example And then they turn it all the way up Do they buzz like that? Yeah I never noticed...I still have these obsolete objects in my house But listen what happens if you mistreat the obsolete object

2:31:06 Don't try this at home. Don't try this at home, John! There you go. Where did you find this piece of crap? Well it was promoted on tweeters by Hill and Knowlton They're pro- I follow the douchebags And Robert Leather I think pointed out to me This is...this is...this is a propaganda Ugh disgusting Alright my friend unless you've got something Nope, I'm good to go. We have the famous September 11th show coming up. Well, I don't think we've ever done a show on September 11th but okay... No this will be it and coincidentally the 10th anniversary of Noah's Enigma because there'll be all kinds of hell breaking loose all over the place. Yeah, Akaida will be killing us. Lone wolves who want to make a message get some attention

2:32:02 Hey, uh chatroom is there no agenda producer update coming or do I just kick something else in let me know If not we'll play a Dvorak Horowitz unplugged thing It should be worth listening to yeah. Oh John always fun to talk to you well as it thrills. I'm still moist And so I'll intend to be back on Sunday. Yeah, I'll be there After checking Dvorak dot org slash NA for people and we will see what's what Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West the Peoples Republic of Southern California here at The Watchtower in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where the traffic is still backed up! I am John C. Dvorak We will talk again on Sunday right here On NO Agenda

2:33:05 Adios, mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A