Dead Man Walking

00:00 F and biz. F and biz. And you can always follow me on Twitter. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Sunday, July 10, 2011 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 320. This is no agenda. Filled with merriment, happiness, and even exhilaration at high doses here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California in the morning. Everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And in Northern Silicon Valley where they're concerned about the Oakland Zoo, I'm John C. Dvorak. Hey! It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Sorry about that. What was that? Uh, a misfire. Yeah, so we had a Mickey's birthday party last night. Yeah, I was gonna come down for that. Yeah, no you weren't. Yeah. Sorry, Mickey even said when she sent out the invites two months ago.

00:55 Should I invite John? I don't think you should worry. I think the invite would have reminded me to come down, but I didn't get it. So... Yeah. No, you got the invite. So what about it? So how was it? Happy birthday to Mickey. Yeah, yeah. Her birthday was Friday. And I add her to the birthday call out. Let's add my daughter to she's yours is coming up on well Thanks for listening to the show, but I congratulated Mickey on On Thursday show. Oh, okay Don't you remember? Well put my daughter on hold on. Oh, let me just put it in here Jay Jay I can't believe buzzkill jr. Didn't do that. I

01:40 Yeah, well, he never... he's kind of like me, he doesn't keep track of birthdays very well. Ah, yes, he is indeed a bit like you. But anyway, it was really nice because every single per... except for like four, five, four who canceled and you, everyone else came. Really? Yeah, everybody came and... Well, who's everybody though? I mean, just locals? I mean, did somebody fly in from out of town? Molly Wood flew in from out of town. She's here, she's in my bed right now. Well that must have been fun. You know that the studio is of course, the studio is right in the spare bedroom, i.e. Mickey's closet where the aero bed resides and I'm like, hey Molly, you know, baby, unless you want to like get, you know, like crackpot and buzz killed you may want to move. Get out.

02:38 So, but it was good. No, it was a good party man and Mickey had a DJ and all beautiful people, of course. She only knows beautiful people. And the cops shut us down, which was kind of cool. It was unbelievable. She had gone to every single neighbor, invited them. Now most people here are not, they're too old. And so I guess a couple of neighbors showed up, but she had said, we're going to do a little party. And it was all that's cool. Great. Thanks for letting us know. And then the cops come at ten past one. Some guy from across the canyon. Well you guys must have been awfully loud. Well I think the music was hitting the back wall and then probably going all the way down to the Hollywood Bowl. I don't know. Oh because you were getting a lot of bass notes. Yeah we had the subwoofer pumping. One party in a year and a half and then the cops show up. And Mickey actually thought for a second, oh did you order strippers? Someone says, hey take your clothes off.

03:39 were they hot cops? Nah, they were okay, you know, they're like Hollywood cops. So what's uh, well you won't have this problem, well actually you probably will have the problem in Vegas. No man, we're gonna be in the desert. We're going tonight, we're gonna go for a quick day trip tomorrow, we're gonna look at places to live in Vegas. Well look for a place that doesn't have a lot of nearby neighbors. Yeah, well that's, I think that's kind of hard, it's all these weird communities. Anyway, hey, in the morning to you Johnny boy, Jean-Claude Duborac. Good morning to you and all the ships at sea. I want to say hello and also to the feet on the ground and the feet in the air and everybody in between. And the boots up your butt. And of course everyone in the chat room live as we stream this twice a week, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net. Good to see you all there charged up and ready to go exactly the way your government loves you.

04:33 So it's done. Done deal. What? Marijuana is officially not only... Useless. Completely useless. The report is out. Two reports came out. We had... I love the USA Today had... It's like real coincidental how this news propagates throughout the compromised media. So USA Today reports on a memo from the US Department of Justice in Washington which says state laws allowing medical marijuana has opened up the door to abuses and calls for legally targeting large-scale privately operated industrial marijuana cultivation centers as well as distribution operations known as dispensaries. So this is it. This is the Obama administration just saying screw y'all. We don't care what you feel as a state. The federales are coming in.

05:29 And I for one can't wait to see Jerry Brown call out the California National Guard and defend us against the feds. Brown will do it? Yeah, sure. He's old enough, he doesn't care. he's got no future, he's not running for president, he's gonna tell him to shove it, you watch. You really think so? That would restore my confidence in the guy, really? Yeah, they're not gonna put up with this. The state of California has long since led the way in medical marijuana for some unknown reason, we didn't vote to legalize it and I think that's kind of deplorable. We have a state filled with Democrat liberals that run the place and then they can't

06:08 And in all my life, my entire life since I was a little kid in California, all I heard was, oh it's going to be legalized any minute. Oh, it should just be legalized. And so they get the chance to legalize it and they vote no. No, let's not do that. So anyway, but that's another story. But the fact is, it is there is a medical use. and uh... so it's now officially as dangerous as heroin yeah yeah i think you know it's like yeah my weed is just like heroin everybody sure but the report was actually pretty funny here's the negative uh... the top ten we need a drumroll really top ten negative effects of marijuana this is from page ten of the report you can find in the show notes at three two zero

07:12 Not any show notes calm number one negative effect dizziness nausea tech Tachycardia, what is it? Tachycardia? Yeah. Well, I know how to pronounce it. But now that you've said that word I can't get it out of my head How do you pronounce it? I have tachycardia. No, no, it's not a TACHY. I know what it I know the word. Well, what does it mean? Oh I think these coughing or okay. I'll look it up on the book of knowledge. This is a yeah, please please do that So it continues facial flushing dry mouth and tremors number two negative effect of marijuana merriment happiness and even exhilaration at high doses

08:00 That's negative? This is on the negative page. How is that negative? It's the negative page. Yeah, this is negative. Oh, it's negative. It's negative. Yeah, it's also called arrhythmia, which is the, uh, you get your heart going, it means. That's what it means. Tachardia or tach- tachar- how is it pronounced? Tachardia, maybe? No, it's not pronounced. As soon as you hear the pronunciation, you go, oh yeah, that's it. Oh yeah, I use this word all the time. Continuing, disinhibition, relaxation, increased sociability and talkativeness. How can this be on the bad page? I don't get it. It goes on. Enhanced sensory perception, giving rise to increased appreciation of music, art and touch. This is so bad. Negative.

08:50 Heightened imagination. Tachycardia. Tachycardia. Heightened imagination leading to a subjective sense of increased creativity. Time distortions. You get increased creativity? Yeah. This is bad. This is on the negative page, I kid you not. Illusions. They're putting you on. Illusions, delusions, hallucinations, especially at high doses. Well, yeah, that's why we take it. Impaired judgment, reduced coordination and ataxia. Which can impede driving ability, a taxia. It's like when you want to drive a taxi cab or something. It can lead to an increase in risk-taking behavior. That's bullcrap. I mean I was a pothead for 10 years hardcore.

09:37 I wouldn't take any risks. I have the munchies. Do I want to risk walking to the kitchen? I want to risk buying peanut butter. Emotional liability, incongruity of effect, dysphoria, disorganized thinking, inability to converse logically, agitation, paranoia, confusion, restlessness, anxiety, drowsiness, and panic attacks, especially in inexperienced users or those who have taken a large dose. And finally, the number 10 negative effect of marijuana, increased appetite and short-term memory impairment.

10:20 Please and that's actually one of the major benefits for people who are you know taking or are Undergoing cancer treatment is increased appetite. It helps you makes you want to eat and helps you keep it down So we're crazy and this is from Obama ladies and gentlemen. I mean, it's not from Obama directly It's from Obama screw it. It's from Obama. It's just isn't is nuts. I It's completely and utterly nuts. So now this is like a grade A top class drug. It's almost as though they're trying to see how much, how far they can go with Obama before the Democrats, the liberals and the progressives say, hey, wait a minute. Wait a minute, dude. It's not good. Yeah, it's an outrage.

11:15 A taxi has got to do with you get so relaxed you can't drive I guess, I don't know. Off the road you know. As we've discussed on this show, I have done an experiment flying a helicopter while under the influence of marijuana. You get a bunch of negative emails. No, no, hold on a second. It was a test with an instructor, with a professionally licensed instructor. It was his idea like hey, hey, let's see how you do You know whenever a Helicopter guy says hey, let's see how you fly stone. That's probably not a good idea to hop on board But no and I was actually great best landing ever So it didn't impact didn't impair my flying abilities, but I digress anyway, so the so that's

12:06 What is this? Why is Internet Explorer opening up? Go away. Buzzkill Jr. mentions on the back channel that if you take a look at that laundry list, good and bad, how does that compare to all those drugs that are advertised on TV like Paxil and all the SSRIs, those those inhibitors in terms of all these in terms of driving in terms also seven there pushing you know prozac down the throat on all that's a good stuff man and adderall and all that stuff you got a kid give to the kids now that's awesome yeah that's good and and and uh... we need a crummy weed that grows in the backyard

12:48 bad okay yeah I have a problem with our spreadsheet today it just needs to be stretched open no no it's it's wanting to open in Internet Explorer it's a oh I got it I got mine fine why would an XLS want to open an Internet Explorer this is a very good question that sounds like oh I see somehow it got named XLS dot XML oh geez I don't know how to change that JC re send him that that spreadsheet don't send anything with it with the I think probably saved it as an XML you know because now no I don't think he did I think something screwed up here yeah I can read I just want to have it for our producers but anyway so that just is like that just blew me away yeah it's like wow no I was amazing yeah you know just

13:41 And then there's the thing, he won't back the, you know, he's supposed to be big, big, gay, you know, oriented president for the gays and he still, and he screws them on this don't ask, don't tell thing, oh that's a scam. And then he refuses to back the gay marriage thing. So he's full of crap. I'm sorry, when are the Democrats, the progressives and the liberals going to see through this guy or say something? You know, these are the same people that are complaining, I guess everybody complains about, oh the Muslims, they don't complain about their own radicals, you know? And I don't see there are radicals complaining about this Republican president. No one is complaining about it. And for the first time, I've actually noticed that there are hardcore Democrats who are saying maybe it would be better

14:36 If, and I love this because this is actually something that we predicted, maybe it would be better if Obama just decided not to run for a second term. And I'm like, uh-huh. So this is hardcore Democrats saying this. Yeah. Good. Right? And there's another thing going on. I have a bunch of clips. We'll play them throughout the show. Thomas Friedman. Oh, the, now he's, first of all, he's like a spook, right?

15:12 Didn't he write the flat earth? Let's just say he's like won a lot of Pulitzer's, he's in the New York Times, he's got a high position, he's very flamboyant, he's on a lot of talk shows, he doesn't follow the normal New York Times reporter pattern of being kind of sedate and not saying a lot, not showing up on everything he can. And he also wears a white shirt instead of a blue shirt. Not that these are indicators, but he always seems to be in like Damascus. Right. Coincidentally in Damascus where we're about to take over. And he's now the foreign affairs columnist and he seems to have a hidden message in everything he says.

15:51 I don't know what that means, if that means he's a spook or not, but it seems to me that he seems to be well connected. And so he was at this other organization, the Aspen Institute. Oh, that sounds like a good one. They had, well it's a very famous operation run by an ex-Time Magazine editor, ex-CNN guy. and he uh... it's this is loaded with that with these characters so that was on c span where do you see the s it was on c s in the air and so i mean it and so i they had this meeting code was called the idea festival or some crap and so freedman's on their basically letting us know in great detail what the uh... what the litanies are what the things we should be looking for and and i thought one of the more interesting one was uh...

16:44 It seems to be some sort of a promotion toward a third party and he mentioned that Just to stir just to screw things up by the way And I don't know if it was the level of seriousness or whatever But if we can give you have want to play a couple of these clips sure I think you'll get a couple of interesting Well, which one do you want to hit because you got let's try first of all, let's try the throwing in our face clip is the one I want to use later, which is just an amazing clip of But I want to talk about third parties first, so let's play the Friedman third party Bloomberg douchebag clip. I don't think a third party can win for a lot of reasons, but what we say, our conclusion in the book is there's just two things we'll tell you about a third party. One is it won't win the next election and two, if it's led by a Bloomberg,

17:32 It'll have more impact on the next president than the person who does win. Because let's remember what Ross Perot won almost 20% of the vote. At one point he had 40% of the polls and he was nuts. He thought little black helicopters were chasing him. Imagine that Michael Bloomberg runs. He doesn't need a dime from anybody. he takes as his economic plan simpson bowls he attaches onto it you know i i i carbon tax you know to raise money for for government research whatever you know you could imagine what the agenda is i tell you alter he'll still be looking more than and pros eighteen point nine percent of the vote on and i think it would really shake up the system and this system need shaking up we are trapped i think in a corrupt duopoly and and basically

18:23 I'll tell you this, the one thing about the internet and the hyper-connected world, it has flattened every hierarchy in the world. From the New York Times to banking industry, it's flattened every hierarchy in the world except the two-party system. And that will not remain. That is a prediction that I will make. I think this is going to be a radical election unless in my view and this would be my first choice unless barack obama becomes the third party candidate you know it takes us back to that's good when the wigs in the uh... you know democrat republican party will corrupt back then uh... you get a movement that eventually changes things let me open it up since you know i was interesting before you respond

19:10 for someone to say, oh he believes in black helicopters, I think that's well proven and we had the so-called stealth black helicopter go pick up Osama Bin Laden. I mean please, what are you saying here? Well not only that but you know, Perot apparently was threatened by some... By a black helicopter! Pretty much. Yeah. And then of course, Friedman who is a apparatchik of some sort for some agency or someone or some group he throws in the carbon tax thing gratuitously just says and of course we can have a third party and they get stuff done like the carbon tax. Yay! Like Australia. And that's what we want.

19:52 Well on that topic I don't want to take all my clips to death here but play the carbon tax clip. Do you know this is going on? Yes, I have this as a... actually I don't have a clip so I'm glad you got one but I was astounded by this. In the meantime we're closely watching what's happening here in Australia as well. Today is the final trading session before we get the details of the government's long-awaited carbon price or the carbon tax whatever you'd like to call it. We're expecting to see a carbon price set at 23 Australian dollars a tonne. It will be applied to 500 of the country's top polluters. Now this is down from the 1,000 that the government was initially targeting. This is because it's exempted petrol or fuel from the carbon scheme. Something that it needed to do in order to get this. How does that work?

20:43 How does that work? How is this poll... I like the way they've just equated, this is like the renaming of the fructose corn syrup into sugar. They've just basically renamed the emissions of carbon dioxide like when you exhale into polluters. Pollution, yeah, pollution. Hey, shut your pie hole, you're polluting. scheme across the line from a number of those country or rural independents. We've heard as well from Andrew Wilkie, he's a Tasmanian lawmaker and he says that he will be supporting the government scheme. So as such we don't expect to see any hurdles through the Parliament. So once the legislation is unveiled it's expected to make a clear passage. We did speak to the Finance Minister Penny Wong earlier on Squawk Box Asia. This is what she had to say about the government putting the final touches on the scheme.

21:32 Hey, what is this guy playing clips? What is he taking our gig? What's up with that? What we have been focused on is understanding that this is a very important economic reform. It's not just an environmental reform, it is about transforming the economy. That means you have to look at the nature of the market mechanism, the nature of the price signal and what transition arrangements, pardon me, that you need to put in place to support industry as well as households through this transition. We're also expecting to see a rather large compensation package announced with this carbon price that will go to compensate some of the polluters until they get the carbon pricing under their belt. Also will go to compensate households because we're expecting to see large increases in the cost of electricity, food prices as well as those polluters pass those costs on to consumers. Carolyn, back over to you. And the crazy thing is that the new

22:28 as a prime minister I think, Gillard had said, you know, we're not gonna have a carbon tax. And look how fast it went from we're not gonna have one to well, you know, here it is. It's going into play this weekend. They've priced it. Yeah, they've priced it. Here's the thing, and here's some kind of what I didn't want to pull that whole clip because there was something in there is slightly annoying because it was because you had said this about three years ago. And I think, I don't know whether you remember or not, it's not in the Red Book, but it would have been. We didn't have a Red Book at the time. Which was that this isn't about, and the guy says it, she says it right in the little clip there, she says this isn't about doing anything about pollution or anything else, it's about changing the economy. Yep.

23:10 Which means, you know, it's changing from a species-based, wealth-based economy to a carbon economy. It's from a human beings being able to survive economy to a screw ya. You need to be dead. And of course, they also mentioned just pass it along to the consumers. In other words, just jack up everybody's prices as a way of getting more money into the tax coffers and under a scheme that's just bogus. Carbon tax, it doesn't do anything because involved with it is this cap-and-trade fiasco and the whole thing is... Well, it's like, you know, the UK... What's wrong with Australia?

23:50 Well, it's all part of the Queen's empire in Gitmo Nation East. They've now come... Chris Hume, the Energy Secretary, came out and said because of green reforms, which is of course just code for carbon tax, energy bills will soar by 30% in Gitmo Nation East. 30%! I mean, are you out of your mind? I mean, isn't the whole idea of alternative energy, if you're going to talk about the energy part of oil, to make it cheaper and better? Sustainable. Yeah, sustainable? No, it's all the more expensive. And who are we going to be paying these taxes to? Literally to bankers. It's literally going to go straight to bankers. To like, you know, central bank, IMF.

24:45 It's nuts. It's amazing to me that this is like, the way this is lockstep moving ahead with people just, you know, blindly, you know, It's the best time to do it when everyone's out of a job and trying to figure out what to do in life. That's the best time to do it. Hello everybody! I found out where they program Barack from. Okay. No, that's from Popeye. What? Listen, this is from Popeye from like 1950. Hello everybody! Hello everybody! It's like that guy, the fat guy who's like the barker who pops up from time to time on... No, I don't remember those cartoons. It's linked in the show notes. I heard that. I was like, that's him! Hello everybody! He's a cartoon! He's a total cartoon. Anyway.

25:42 Oh my goodness. Actually, let me do this and then we should go and thank our executive producers. A throwback to the Twitter extravaganza with Jack Dorsey. Here's what President Obama said about the, and this is one of our producers found that, not this clip but the next one, but I gotta throw it back first. Here's what he said about the scope of the quote recession. Worse since 1929. I think that probably two things that I would do differently. One would have been to explain to the American people that it was going to take a while for us to get out of this.

26:33 Even I did not realize the magnitude because most economists didn't realize the magnitude of the recession Okay, so no one knew John the economist didn't know he didn't know no one knew it was gonna be this bad Of course now we know that you know, the unemployment has gone to a nine point two percent He didn't know how much nice cavourst is what the Germans used to say in Second World War. I I didn't know. I had no idea. Well, Christy Romer, rumor, of course I don't like her, and she quit. Remember that crazy economist woman? She is an economist actually. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, and she quit. She was doing some paid speaking gig somewhere, and she actually even at one point said, oh I hope the cameras are off, the microphones are off.

27:21 But, uh, I mean, I hope they catch this. Oh, yeah. She's told this is a total cover my ass moment and there's a lot of her ass to cover. The story of, you know, that there's a famous meeting that there was a meeting with the president where the whole economics team flew to Chicago to meet with him. And before it, David Axelrod had been sort of telling us, you know, what his polling data was showing about sort of where the American people were. And one of the things that he said, and I don't know if we're still on tape, but anyway, he said, you know, the American people haven't had their holy shit moment yet where they're going to say, oh my goodness, this is really a horrible recession. You know, they hadn't yet realized just what had hit us with the collapse of Lehman.

28:07 And so I actually started my discussion with the president by saying, Mr. President, this is your holy shit moment, that this economy is, we knew it was sick and it is even sicker. And so that was the context in which we were all making the case that what people had been thinking about for the fiscal stimulus needed to be much bigger. And I think at that point what we had decided was as big as Congress will do. And I think that's an important thing for people to realize. Sorry Mr. President, you were told. He's just lying. He's lying a lot. Yeah, this is his number one, she was the chief, the number one economist.

28:47 It's just like wow Okay, and then he and of course as you know it's a Sunday And I always go and look at our president show he has two shows the Westwood wing which was quite boring This week bad episode we got to talk to the producers But then he has his solo soliloquy and known as the national address and he am it here's here's how you talk about what we're going through right now communities that they're a part of and But our economy as a whole just isn't producing nearly enough jobs for everybody who's looking. We've always known that we'd have ups and downs on our way back from this recession Do you recall him talking about the ups and downs? I know I recall we'd have no more than 8% unemployment But it's it's ups and downs or what else do we call it and over the past few months the economy's experienced? Some tough headwinds Oh headwinds, right? Headwinds in the mean way. I want to start just a quick aside on

29:48 I want to start, I want people to send me the memes that they've noticed that we spot over it because I think we've lost... It's a list, it's a big list. I think the list is huge and I think we've lost track of it. Yeah, I think you're right well Let me continue with Obama and then the spokesholder and I'll be done with this with this whole thing from natural disasters Oh, it's global warming to spikes in gas prices. Yeah, hello to state and local budget cuts that have cost tens of thousands of cops and firefighters and teachers their job how can that how can I don't understand how that all of a sudden becomes like the reason isn't that a cause and

30:25 Is that a cause or an effect of the recession? He's saying because of natural disasters, because state governments were broke. Well yeah, but that's the part of the recession. The problems in Greece and in Europe. That's our problem now? Oh yeah, that's right. Because we're part of the bailout for Greece, almost $1 billion. Along with uncertainty over whether the debt limit here in the United States will be raised. Oh. Have also made businesses hesitant to invest more aggressively. Oh yeah, of course. Yeah, it's everyone's fault. So of course when you got to get the message out and Austin Goolsbee, they threw him to the lions. There was nothing funny that he said because I like making fun of Austin Goolsbee, the chief economist of whatever little club the president's got going on there. But you got to send the spokeshole Carney out. Did you see what Carney said about this report? So for those of you who aren't following me, don't live in Gitmo Nation, West Coast states,

31:27 I think we created like 18,000 jobs, kind of a rounding error. I don't think it was that, I think it was 14. It was like nothing. Canada! By the way, the replacement rate for that we need to create based on the population is we need to create a hundred and fifty thousand new jobs a month to stay even. And notice how they've dropped that saved and created it's like we created two million jobs I know it was saved or created remember so now they've dropped that but anyway Canada created more new jobs I'm not not like disparaging towards Canada but hello

32:04 So Carney comes out and here's what he says about these job numbers. Most people do not sit around their kitchen table and analyze GDP and unemployment numbers. They talk about how they feel, their own economic situation, and they do not sit around analyzing the Wall Street Journal or Bloomberg to analyze the numbers. Oh, that's right. We're all stupid. We don't analyze the numbers. We're just idiots, Carney. It was the hubris of this guy. Nah, most people don't. What does the number mean? It's just a number. People, you know, they look at your own... People pay attention to this. How could you miss it? Every mainstream compromise news station was talking about the number. Yeah. All the comics were talking about it. I mean, everybody was talking about that number being so pathetic. And then the unemployment going up. Yeah, but nobody ever looks at that. No, we don't look at that.

33:02 to snus And this is statistical analysis, I mentioned before and I talk about it a lot, actually Horowitz and I talk about it. It's a group out of San Francisco that analyzed the real unemployment numbers and other statistics that they say are called shadow stats because what they do is they take the phony baloney numbers that the government has conjured up and then looks at the real numbers and if you based it on when we had during the Great Depression, we had 34% unemployment.

33:38 using those calculations today we have in reality 22 and a half percent unemployment. Wow I thank God every morning when I wake up first that I'm still alive that's good then I'm like and she's still here and then I'm like I can't believe that you know people are actually helping us do this for a living I'm living the American dream here of just getting by. Yeah, you're just getting by. Just getting by, but we're living it, John. We're living the American dream. So let's thank some of these people. Right on.

34:21 starting with let me get a couple of came in over the transom at box three three nine else you're gonna transform what is that the transom it's the it's always in the in the box is that mail list is that on the wire through the telex the transom we have a executive producers David Hewitt and he's catching up on June shows Gardasil does protect only against a few of the possible HPV types because only a few are associated with cancer. Many of the others produce genital warts. He says, mentioned that Lancet was founded by Thomas Wakely not Louis Pasteur. I don't know where... Well, he's talking about one of my, you know,

35:04 We did the Lancet Institute. Okay, anyway, so you gave me, David's in for $333.33. That's nice. Also, and there's another one that came in over the mail which is an associate executive producer, Donald E. Silva, and he, for $222 and he says, he has a note, John, the potholes in Honolulu are enormous and many. I hit a pothole in December during the rainy season and ruined two my run flat tires $1,400 holy crap the government will not fix the potholes anytime soon they are using cement to patch the largest holes now the streets are dotted with white patches it feels like you're driving over rocks like a moon surface throw me to lunch the other day in a truck and I nearly damaged a kidney

35:52 You need a kidney belt just to drive on the roads in America. Hey Donald, why don't you go to Afghanistan? They got some new roads there that we put up and... Yeah, it's beautiful. Check it out. Isn't that Chinese built at this point? And probably. We also have a... and we have a donation for a knighthood in tires for the RV. Yes, Mr. Smith has actually, you know, Baroness Maggie Vincent from Virginia has kindly offered her RV. And it's kind of funny because she offered this and the thing looks great and then she's actually put like I think a grand or two into some needed maintenance. I'm like, oh, okay. And then she's like, I'm going to give you the paint to do the roof.

36:40 Okay, but you know we're so excited because we're she's allowing us to to borrow her RV for the trip which kicks off Friday is when we fly over to Virginia to start and And then you know she remember we had the discussion about the tires and she says you know well it means there you know you would don't want to drive over 50 I'm like okay Let's get some tires. So mr. Smith has kindly ponied up 11 11 11 So, 1100... For Newtide. So it's Mr. Smith out of Langley? Yes, Mr. Smith out of Langley. I'm telling you. We also had a whole conversation with our producers picking us up from the Pentagon. And he's been listening to us and you like joke like... You do remember that story about the guy who went to the Pentagon and then just guns him down. Yeah, I know, I know. He says, hey, I'm also a Marine. I don't mess around. I'll be there on time and I'll pick you up and I'll deliver you where you need to be.

37:39 So but we it's great that you know the the the pickle factory is actually helping us get underway Probably by the way, there will be a black helicopter and a couple of oh, yeah nice Escalades following if you're if you're looking for us if we won't be hard to spot just look for the down wash metal yes uh... it can size for another executive users are can't as a matter of fact from clovis new mexico's coming with five hundred dollars and ryan ferguson irvine i think it's i think it's easier actually can see sir this is a story and it's okay and the issue yeah brian ferguson and irvine that three thirty three thirty three eight guys wonder if you know my paypal contributions comes out to seven forty was gonna add one eleven is doing is math

38:28 I grew up in a tithing church and was taught that you do not glean the corners of your field, if you do not glean the corners of your field, which means helping to show, you will be rewarded. Meaning leave some for others. So I also have been listening to the audio book 4-Hour Workweek and Tim Ferriss advises to quit listening to news and listen to people you trust that are well informed. Done and done, referring to us. Awesome. That's the way it should be. uh... g or guy and andy he posey ballazzi all i see at three thirty three thirty three you have a note from him yet he is from uh... get my nation falafel uh... from israel and i have his note here uh... and so i was reading a newspaper article explaining how the u.s. cons this is in israel are us constitution is no longer valid and how the fact that it is as such

39:20 damaging the Israeli interest. I said no more we have to push you guys a bit more since you are by far the best news outlet in the world. He says however please stop whining you guys in the US you have a long way to go until you get to where we are here in Israel. Here it is legal for the government to arrest you, place a gag order and hold you almost indefinitely. If you want to go into a restaurant, office building, mall, etc., please let a security theater start and let a 60-year-old Russian-speaking person look through your stuff. All the major politicians are ex-military guys and so are many of the business sector top managers. Military-industrial complex, anyone? Hey! In the morning, hot pockets away. Guy Boazzi. Thank you so much, Guy.

40:07 That's highly appreciated. And finally our last executive producer for today's show is Stephen Pelsmacher. Oh he's the Baron of Belgium. The Baron of Belgium. This guy, you know, there's a place, if there's a heaven, this guy's in it. one of the he's our top patron by far bed the baron it always comes true and so that those are executive producers and one associate executive producer for today and we want to thank everybody uh... who that contributes at this level to work dot org slash n a or who mails uh... check-in which is a addresses available at the devore act dot org slash n a uh... website also uh...

40:47 Channel Dvorak comm slash na no agenda nation calm and No agenda show that come have links. Let me just program this and we just program your brain for a second here A little rough have you a couple of PR things going on typically this exists of people who will forward domain names to Noagendershow.com. We've got a couple of interesting ones. First of all, fantastic, we've got hashtag numbersign.com which is now forwarding to the show. Of course this is a throwback to Spokes Hole Carney talking about hashtag numbersign, ask Obama. Along with the combatcinema.com. It's kind of nice. This one is great.

40:07 That's highly appreciated. And finally our last executive producer for today's show is Stephen Pelsmacher. Oh he's the Baron of Belgium. The Baron of Belgium. This guy, you know, there's a place, if there's a heaven, this guy's in it. one of the he's our top patron by far bed the baron it always comes true and so that those are executive producers and one associate executive producer for today and we want to thank everybody uh... who that contributes at this level to work dot org slash n a or who mails uh... check-in which is a addresses available at the devore act dot org slash n a uh... website also uh...

40:47 Channel Dvorak comm slash na no agenda nation calm and No agenda show that come have links. Let me just program this and we just program your brain for a second here A little rough have you a couple of PR things going on typically this exists of people who will forward domain names to Noagendershow.com. We've got a couple of interesting ones. First of all, fantastic, we've got hashtag numbersign.com which is now forwarding to the show. Of course this is a throwback to Spokes Hole Carney talking about hashtag numbersign, ask Obama. Along with the combatcinema.com. It's kind of nice. This one is great.

41:37 HelloEverybody.me HelloEverybody.me is actually forwarding to Dvorak.org.na. We appreciate that, Pete. In light of what's going on with News of the World, their last publication today, NewsCot.com and NewsCot.co.uk And then we have Robert Seals who did something very cool. I sent you a note about this, John. It probably went to your spam. Yeah, no, I saw it. I was thinking we should push that off till Thursday so I could, because I think that we could use a couple of extra pieces of information on the donation page. Well, okay, but can I talk about it now and have everyone see it and then get all hyped up about it? All right, go for it. So he registered on the tweeter.com, which of course we know where that comes from. And you can always follow me on Twitter. Right.

42:28 and uh... by the way uh... and there's a new tweeter out there and uh... our supreme court justice briar is propagating the mean but i mean i do have a try actually have a cleaning thing because i was very interested in uh... the iranian revolution remember when they just had this uh... uprising uh... a year ago and i wanted the I sat there fascinated because you could actually look through the tweeting and you could see what was going on. You could see the violence, you could see women killed. It was terrible. And I wanted to keep track of that and I sat there totally fascinated. The only way you could do it was to go through the tweeter. The tweeter. The tweeter. Did he say tweeter? He said tweeter. He gets a little over modulated. This guy is slightly... Well, that's what the recording was. By the way, this Supreme Court justice who actually believes that he saw women killed on the tweeter.

43:24 Is this country in trouble or what? Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I got it There's a clip coming up on this show, but people don't Stay tuned stay tuned. So anyway, so Robert registered on the tweeter.com and that we've set it up and now if you go to Adam dot on the tweeter.com it redirects you to my tweeter page and I did for you. I just did John C. Dvorak But I can make a John or whatever and I think that this is another perfect podcast license type deal because you know the think about it if we all use are on the tweeter.com addresses and Eventually tweeter and something's gonna replace tweeter. We all know that right and it happens. This is the cycle about tweeter I tried to register tweeter.com, but okay, so we'll get tweeter and

44:13 And then as long as you propagate your address, which No Agenda Show manages for you and the human resources, we can just redirect it so you don't have to actually lose your cool address on yourname.onthetwitter.com. So you could also go, I guess, to this Google Plus thing. Are you on Google Plus? I mean, I checked it out, but I don't participate in it. Are you kidding me? That's stupid. It is stupid, but I think you keep cropping up. I keep cropping up. I just got on it the other day. No, I went on for one. And it makes it look like you're one of the very active users. No, I haven't used it. I did one thing. I went on, I looked at the circles, I put like four people in my circles.

44:57 And here's what I noticed. So one, I wanted to say happy birthday to Mark Andreessen, who I know from back in the MTB.com days. He's the guy that was at college and said, yay, compile this HTTP D 1.3 server. I've got this thing called Mosaic. And he took me from Gopher into the web. So I know him, so I send him a birthday. But I go to his page on Google+, and you can't post anything like on a wall, like Facebook, which I don't do at all. But it's like, OK, so you can't actually do anything. And then I see Marissa Meyer pops up and I want to say, hey, you're hot. Because she's the only hottie on Google+. And you can't do that. So I'd like post it in a comment about her apartment or something. It's stupid. Anyway, so let me just continue here. Robert Seals, thank you so much for registering that and we'll work on that as a promotion. I think it'll be good for everyone to start propagating our own onthetwitter.com addresses.

45:57 Then we have Aaron who forwarded jackdorseybroomstick.com to no agenda show. We have greengovernment.org. Jack Dorsey, it took me a minute. Yeah, we have greengovernment.org. We don't care about customers.com and yeah that's the ones that we had. And then finally, and you actually had a comment, did you just Skype me something? Yeah, just we just got it's some business for later. Yeah, but you know this stuff doesn't work It's like I got that I got the news I got the new Skype and now I can't like find anything Oh, so if you sent me something, but it doesn't show up terrific. It's crazy anyway Let me uh no it's not there. It's hold on let's see okay. Yeah, I got that one um high-profits.com This is from Andre

47:01 And he says, you know, there are certain domain names which will be worth something. And I think highprofits.com could potentially be sellable. Yes, it's basically, I guess he's doing a stock market show or something like that or a magazine. So he says, you know, something we could do is, you know, we hype up and I am working on a system which is coming soon, very similar to the onthetweeter.com where you can actually, you know, if you register a domain name, You you'll actually get to be able to do stuff and the would you get a page? Automatically from your friends at the no agenda show and you can create subdomains with a click of a button And so these domains won't just be like part, you know and or just forwarding to one address you can actually create inbound links and it's all great for the SEO stuff whatever and And that makes your domain name valuable and then you know when someone comes along and says hey I want to buy that then you can consider giving the show a cut and

48:00 There's a great way, you know, it's a low investment, you know, a couple bucks, seven bucks or whatever, and then you can actually make it more valuable and everyone will be pointing to each other's domains and that's how the scams work. So we might as well participate in it. Yeah. So, and I think, I think that is it. Yeah. So again, we highly appreciate the support of our executive producers, associate executive producers, 333 club members and everyone who's out there doing PR for us. And of course if you're out there and you want to help us, you can always go out and do this, propagate the formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Say it with me everybody now. Shut up, sleep. Back to work.

50:48 Remember penny postcards those days are over Penny postcard everybody that's a beautiful spot man back in the old days of the wireless It's beautiful. I'd like to say hello to our friends in Gitmo nation. What is Portugal again? What is a Portugal's Gitmo nation moniker? Well, that's a good question. It's some salami thing kielbasa. No, it could be a linguiça Gitmo National Inguiça? Yeah, we could call it that. Wow, so they got a friendly little note from the guys who actually created the entire depression in the first place as Moody's stuck a broomstick up their brechtum. The downgrade of Portugal's debt to junk status by the credit ratings agency Moody's should serve as a wake-up call to the rest of Europe, says the country's president.

51:39 Describing the move as a detonator, Anabel Cavaco Silva called on European leaders to face up to American ratings agencies which, she said, posed a threat to European economic stability. A Portuguese economist and advisor to the Commission has told Euronews she finds the downgrade appalling. In my opinion, the moment has come for Europe to have its own ratings agency, she says, which evaluates countries and companies according to criteria that are those of the European project. She went on to outline her ideas for strengthening the Eurozone. In order for the Eurozone to be stable in future, Member States must be guaranteed low interest rates so that they can invest and grow. This is a fundamental condition for survival in the Eurozone. Today, in the face of financial markets which apply a great deal of pressure,

52:33 The only way to guarantee acceptable interest rates so that all countries and regions can invest is through Eurobonds. The downgrade hot on the heels of Portugal's new austerity plan has brought more criticism. The country's debt agency called it superficial and arrogant. Lisbon council is to suspend its contract with Moody's. So, there's a lot of things in this clip, starting with the last bit. What is like it is this like cable service? Hey, you gave us crappy service moodies. We're canceling cancel now It's like hold one moment. We'll put you through to customer cancellation service. Please hold I So moodies are the same guys. I mean, I I don't know. It's actually an ask John question These are the same guys who rated all of these

53:25 the They're saying well, you don't you can't downgrade us. We you know, we need to do some things here to me Oh euro bonds, which is another like banking scam But who are these Moody's guys and should we not consider setting up our own rating agency John maybe the douche on the dirt? The douche because this is like Nielsen. I mean, this is the you know, Nielsen has all the power come what is it come score has all the power on the interwebs and

54:11 We need some kind of politician, douchometer, ratings agency, but that's where the power, who is behind Moody's? Who are these guys? And why do we, it's like FICA, FICO. They can ruin your life. Yeah, it's bad. So who is Moody's? It wouldn't be so bad if they were actually, seem to be honest, but the fact that they got scammed by these ridiculous mortgage deals overrated them and then the whole economy tanked I mean that's what they're supposed to be that's they're there to keep to make sure that doesn't happen and they're actually making it happen yeah and they actually made it happen by being wrong and come so wrong it wasn't like they were a bit wrong or they were just a little off from triple-a to like G triple-a to zero but Wow yeah

55:05 So do we know who they are, who's behind them, what's going on with that? That's a good question. I mean, I know who they are in terms of what they do and everything, but I don't know who's behind it or how many banks are involved, if Goldman Sachs has got something to do with it or if the government or the CIA or... I don't know. It's a good question. I'll ask Horowitz when he gets back from Vietnam. Okay, he's in Nam? Yeah. He's doing a tour of Nam? What's he doing there, on vacation? I don't know, he's doing work for somebody out of Langley, I think. Oh yeah, right. No, he's on a short vacation with his wife. But it just blows me away. There was like, Moody is God. Like, okay, oh, Moody says so. Well, Standard & Poor's is the other one. Right, well, I'm sure they're just as bad. It's like, Portugal pays for this privilege.

56:05 They've been paying, you know, because if you want a rating you have to pay them. What a scam! I guess Portugal didn't send enough kielbasa's over. Or whatever it is. Linguices. Linguices. Kielbasa's. Linguices. Advertising. So it just, it just blew me away. And now, oh, I had this. Moody's was founded in 1909 by John Moody beginning with Analysis of Railroad Investments, a book about railroad securities using letter grades to access their risk. The president had something to say about railways. Did you hear this? Train's good? It's better than that.

56:49 there are a few things that we can and should do right now to redouble our efforts. By the way, redouble, yeah, so redouble means what? Another stimulus? Redouble our efforts, redouble. Well, redouble, the first effort was $800 billion of stimulus. Yeah, what now, $1.6 trillion? Let's just use the BS number. Redouble, I think, means, okay, so, and what he's talking about is a A million construction workers who have to work on something that I a word I've never heard before on behalf of the American people Investing in rebuilding our roads and our bridges and our railways railways railways We need our railways

57:36 Here's my rail ray gun. Rebuilding our roads and our bridges and our rail rays and our infrastructures. Infrastructures? The guy kills me. Rail rays. How can you mess up rail, rail rays? Rail rays. Hey, he talks a lot. You know, over time he's gonna botch it. Rail rays. Which I guess that could also be code for he's actually gonna in rest in something called rail rays. And by the way, everything is now with an R. I'm the unrest in railways. Ugh. Any more on that?

58:12 not just that italy's next and then i'll shut up about uh... economy italy's the latest eurozone country to come under pressure because of default fears and in addition investors are worried about the effects of a reported falling out between the finance minister julia truman t and prime minister sylvia berlusconi yeah so uh... italy's next that you know that uh... david campbell lined up like ducks in a row well david cameron came out with something very interesting which i think kind of uh... is a Subtext to this news of the world shutting down which by the way turns out to be financially quite a good deal for mr. Murdoch is in news of the world wasn't making any real money, and it's very hard to fire people

58:54 in Gitmo Nation East. Yeah, it's like Germany, you can't fire people. Yeah, it's all of the Eurozone. You can't just fire people. So this is probably a really good move and he does need that B-Sky-B deal to happen because that's a cash cow. But of course, you know, Murdoch is known for being on the brink of bankruptcy and coming back. But Cameron came out and I was like, wow, this is mind-boggling what he had to say. The British Prime Minister has called for a complete overhaul of the UK's press regulation system in the wake of the media hacking scandal that's forced the closure of the News of the World newspaper. David Cameron also said the police inquiry into possible criminal activities at the Sunday tabloid would not answer all of the public's questions. That is why I want to establish a second inquiry to begin at the earliest available opportunity, ideally now this summer.

59:50 This inquiry should be conducted by a credible panel of figures drawn from a range of different backgrounds who command the full support, respect and above all confidence of the public. They should be truly independent without any motive but to seek the truth and to clean up the press. As expected, police arrested Andy Coulson today, the former editor of the News of the World who quit as Cameron's communications chief as the hacking scandal ballooned. So he is calling for a complete reform of the rules of news. Hello? Yeah, I mean wow. So they already have this thing called the D-Notice which means this is news but you can't talk about it. So they're gonna do more and you know what's coming John? License. A license to be a journalist. You have to be a licensed journalist, accredited with backgrounds. There's places around the world that have that already. Brazil, you have to have a license. Yeah, but you know this is not in the free West.

1:00:53 The free west where's that? Yeah? Well, what's gonna happen to us will be will be outlawed. Oh, we're at some point We're gonna have to be licensed to do this show well you can I'm happy because you can actually get a license because you have a track record neither gonna you know like Mr.. Dvorak Jean-Claude Dvorak you can have a this. I'm this is the the high command you can have a license But we're so sorry mister. What is his name Curie? No? He is not allowed to broadcast news Yeah, well then screw him. So I'll just be your sidekick. I'll be like that would work. I'll be like hey I'll just add little bits and bobs. Well just call me the engineer. You'd be like the guy in the control booth. That's all I'll be. I'm just gonna be the engineer. I'll be your sidekick.

1:01:47 Here's a Jean-Claude de Vorac, licensed journalist for the Gitmo Nation States of News Organization Ministry of Truth and his sidekick Adam Currie. How you doing everybody? And you know the thing about these licenses, they'd be up for review. So once you got the license, even if you were qualified, you could still have it pulled. Oh yeah. And I won't be able to be directly on mic. I'll have to be like, all I can do is laugh in the background. I won't be I won't be allowed to broadcast you watch it's coming in our lifetime my friend. It's oh yeah, no It's coming so I can't believe that did people aren't up in arms about him saying this and we have to have an independent inquiry which is I think British or we're gonna find Screw it

1:02:32 We're gonna get independent people. Oh yeah, I'm sure that'll be great. Well the other guy going after and I have a clip from Chris Bryant who I think I've been watching this guy Chris Bryant is a labor guy so he's on the other side and he'll and the Labor Party gets back in power eventually. I think he's gonna become a prime minister and he and he isn't he was outed as a gay by I think one of Murdoch's papers years ago and now he's just openly gay. But he's extremely presentable and I think he has prime minister written all over him and I'm putting it in the red book as a prediction. Our national life. At least Berlusconi lives in Italy. But Murdoch is not resident in this country. He does not pay tax here and has never appeared before a select committee of this house. No other country would allow one man to garner four national newspapers, the second largest broadcaster, a monopoly on sports rights and first few movies. America, the home of the aggressive entrepreneur, doesn't allow it. We shouldn't.

1:03:35 So I just say about the proposed takeover of East Bybee that of course it should be put on ice whilst the police investigation is ongoing. The executive and non-executive directors have completely failed in their legal duty to tackle criminality in the company and it must surely be in doubt at least whether some of these are fit and proper people to run a media company. There are many other questions. Who is paying Glenn Mulcair's legal fees now? Is it News International? Was Clive Goodman paid off handsomely when he came out of prison? What did Rebecca Wade, Andy Coulson, Les Hinton know and when did they know it? You know, he's not an Eton boy. He's, uh, at least I don't think so. I'm just looking through his book of knowledge entry. And all these guys are usually from Eton. He's not from there. Yeah, there's an Eton connection with most of them, that's true. But this guy's really presentable. Is he cute? Is he hot?

1:04:29 I think he's a very good-looking, he's the Tony Blair good-looking British Prime Minister type. You know, well-spoken, you know, photogenic, he's got everything going for him, but he's gay, and although he doesn't have a lot of, he doesn't have any gay affectations, at least not in public. Oh, he's not hot, John. No, I'm saying he's a... Wait a minute, he's a ginger! No, if you... No, no, he's... If you look at him on television, he's more telegenic than photogenic. I'm sorry, I know enough, I've lived in Gitmo Nation East long enough to know that hell will freeze over before they have a ginger Prime Minister.

1:05:10 There's a real racial... I'm watching him on television, I see him right here and he's not a redhead on TV. He looks redhead on the book of knowledge. Well, I'm just saying. I know what you're saying, they hate the redheads. It's horrible. And the reason for that is because they hate the Irish and the Irish are all, you know, a lot of redheads. They actually think people who have red hair actually are genetically inferior. No, they think that and they also, there's also this belief that redheads have no soul. well yeah there is a religious really upset because i feel that yeah i read it read it have no soul well and i think that's par for any uh... prime minister had you have to have no sales it is a qualified media but uh... i'm sorry as a bi curious mail on it on i'm not turned on by instance uh... he is not my kind of guy

1:06:01 But anyway he goes after these guy everyone's going after him and they have all these he's away the chat room Just came up with a good one. It's a gilf a ginger I'd like to yeah it's cute yes so I don't know I think you're probably right though I mean maybe the whole thing was a scheme to close the thing down so they could fire people because he moved all his best people out of the well they're all going to the Sun and the Sun of course is gonna do a Sunday paper which they've been wanting to do for a long time but they didn't want to compete with their with their sister publication by the way it's called screws of the world in the industry

1:06:37 the screws that's what news of the world was called gonna be called the Sun on Sunday and it's it probably be a cheaper up yeah I think you're right to finance because you have to say one office for the Sun and the Sun Sunday Sun you don't have this whole separate operation that only does a weekly paper which is really passe even though it has huge circulation it's still a weekly it seems to be a money loser aspect to it yeah they're not making a lot of money And I thought that actually I had heard like well, they're expecting 5 million copies. I thought this thing did 12 Well, maybe it's monthly they do 12 million. I heard it was 14 million ish an issue That's what I thought too, but it seems like maybe the thing is really down that much and Murdoch's like screw this dog Let's get rid of it. Shut that thing down

1:07:21 Well, this whole thing is something fishy about it. Well, I am quite... And by the way, it's bullcrap what Bryant said about even the aggressive entrepreneurs, home of the aggressive entrepreneurs, the USA doesn't allow it. Murdoch owns dozens and dozens of TV stations, he owned the Dodgers for a while if I'm not mistaken, a movie studio, a number of outlets for news and TV in the same market. That's bullcrap. We more than welcome it. Yeah, it's uh, it's uh, I don't know man. It's the Ministry of Truth is closing in that's for sure. It is closing in on us and uh, it's not good. Hey, uh, Arab Spring, Switzerland blocking all Syrian assets, that's how it starts. So I guess we're gonna steal their money next and then we move in.

1:08:18 Although it's going to be tricky because Sudan of course now is officially Southern Sudan is its own nation. They upped the UN blue helmets from four and a half thousand which was already double what they typically put into a region to 7,000. Clooney's all over the news again. Oh they brought him back? I didn't see that. Yeah well this is how it works. You got to break up with your girlfriend, the hot girlfriend, so that you're in the news. Oh Clooney yeah yeah oh yeah George yeah and then boom! Hit him with Sudan where Clooney's got his eye from the sky satellite thing. So you can see that, you can just wait for that to happen. I have a little clip about South Sudan and it was on the weekend. And they introduced this woman from the State Department. At the beginning you can hear what her title is, I want you to see if you can catch it. But she talks a little bit about what's going on, it's all bull crap.

1:09:17 But play it, but her title is what really got my attention. CNN's senior State Department producer released that scene. Senior State Department producer? Is that what it is? Yeah. Oh, she's a producer. So she produces news and produces Twitter messages. Wow. Good one. Her title is State Department, US State Department senior, so senior US State Department producer. How come they didn't make her an executive producer? She wasn't contributing to the No Agenda show. Yeah, wow. Let me hear that again. CNN's senior State Department producer, Elise. Oh wait, she's CNN's senior... They say that, but her title says that she's with the US State Department. It says US State Department producer on her chyron.

1:10:07 Wow, but maybe she was CNN and she's did that's her crazy title, but the whole thing seemed a little dubious But anyway, she has a She has a what? She has a little, she has a canned... Blurb. Crock of crap you can listen to here. A blurb. Yeah, it's a blurb. Senior State Department producer released that scene almost as important as a celebration in South Sudan. Lots of symbolism that comes here. Lots of symbolism! And a real commitment too between the US and South Sudan. Well that's right Fred, the US... Oh this is Fred. I hate Fred. She's on in the morning, Fredrika. That's right, Fred. For decades has been working to help South Sudan for this moment. The US really under the Bush administration started pushing this agreement, this comprehensive peace agreement between South and North Sudan to get them to this day and really over the last few months really intense diplomacy getting the Sudanese to this referendum in July

1:11:08 where the South Sudanese voted for independence and now not only today here in Washington was the South Sudanese embassy raising a flag but in Juba today the U.S. consulate became an official U.S. embassy and that really I think we can look for a real intensive U.S. engagement in helping to nation build, to really help this fledgling nation stand up and work towards being a full member of the international community. Well part of that engagement also includes security and how the U.S. will be watching or helping to secure as best it can South Sudan.

1:11:50 Oh yeah, no I think... It's so canned, she asks these questions, reading the question, it's a canned question and this woman answers, it's just, it's like such theater to listen to these two. And she can't even read the prompter right, she keeps, uh, embassy, uh, consulate, embassy, uh... No, she's reading it off a sheet. Oh really? Oh okay. They didn't even bother with the prompt. They couldn't afford the prompt. They didn't have time to get the prompt to copy up. Wow. No, so I think there's a couple of things happening. So one of course in Libya and now NATO everyone is saying we're not going to supply the rebels anymore because the rebels have failed. You know they gave these guys all they needed, tanks, a jet airplane. Yeah it was only supposed to take days. Yeah not weeks. And they can't get the job done. So

1:12:33 You know, even the Viagra rape thing didn't take hold, which I would partially take responsibility for that we've just said this bull crap and hopefully people are like, yeah, or who am I kidding? No one gives a crap except the listeners of the show. But it's not happening. So this all support has been pulled off the table. That's exactly why the United States is not recognizing the transitional National Council because we got it. Now we're going to screw those guys. So we paid them to get it all started and now, you know, like, okay, no more bullets for you and we have to do something. Now Syria

1:13:11 I think that's a hedge. So they're stopping the money flow right now. And you see Assad on television, I didn't get the, I'm stupid, this is a clip I forgot to get. He keeps saying, hey, we've got like foreign crazy guys in here shooting everything up. You know, this is like, he's basically saying CIA is here stirring it up and you're all buying it like I'm killing people. Like, you know, and the State Department says, that's just nutty. That guy's just nutty to say that. I should have by the way Friedman on at the Aspen Institute also went on about off on Syria being the worst murderers in the world. Well you know as in Damascus the government will shoot you. They'll kill you immediately and meanwhile you see all this video this you know like oh we can't confirm where this video was from and you see like a whole bunch of guys and they say oh it's police beating a guy up and throwing him in the trunk of the car but if you look closely at the video they

1:14:08 They have helmets on and like a protective vest, but they're all wearing different shoes, different pants. You know, that's not a typical police force where you don't have a standard uniform. Yeah, especially when they keep showing you these militarized police. Right. But but but you look at it and you see all helmets, batons. But then if you look closely, you see one guy's wearing Nike's, the other guy's wearing Jack Jack boots, the other guy's wearing, you know, cockies. The other guy's got like put so much on the blurry old. Yeah. Oh, and you don't need to do a lot. Yeah, that's true. I want to have a prediction I want to throw out there. It's a little it's

1:14:44 not completely off topic as to a southern sudan so the new york times at this picture of the gathered boss the new boss of southern sudan is apparently been promoted from the sense bush day was his name uh... our boss of their boss but their boss southern sudan and i think i can look at this picture what it was uh... what kind of title does the boss at boss does boss a s e people is looking for the best use in the peninsular uh... sees president His name's Salva Kier, K-I-R. Salva Kier Mayardit. He, there's a big picture of him in the Times and he's with these General Lissimos around him and a bunch of other geeky looking goons and creeps. He's got a big cowboy hat. Oh yeah, he's got a cowboy hat with a big wide rim.

1:15:32 He looks a bit like one of those old blues guys. I am predicting the cowboy hat is going to become huge in Africa. It's a fashion statement. You watch. But it's funny because we had our shill in Afghanistan, Karzai. He's got the crazy hat and the cape. This is what you do when you put a shill in. You gotta make them look official. Yeah, it's like having a musician on a TV talk show. You want him to dress cool. Yeah, it's like if you look at all the country and western guys, if they didn't have a hat on, you wouldn't believe that they actually did country. So you gotta give them a hat and blue jeans and some boots. And this guy's got a huge hat. It's a beautiful hat.

1:16:11 George Bush gave him that hat. No, really? Yeah. No, seriously. Yeah Wow, according to the Times. Oh, wow, and he still has it on he showers with it And I think it's gonna become a fashion statement you watch I think and I was thinking about it actually a cowboy hat is a perfect hat because these guys are wearing berets and all these other European hats that are stupid in Africa. You want a big sombrero thing and by the way, I'd like to point out it's a black hat and Yeah, it's not like he's a white hat. No, it's a black hat. Wow Wow, I gotta get me a hat like that. I'm picking good. You look good in big man one in Texas So while we're just on the crazy-ass media Fox had all the talking points because of course now that we've killed Osama bin Laden and we've got our new guys in our new Secretary of Defense Panetta right Panetta. Yeah

1:17:08 who of course is a former CIA guy. And so you know what talking points do we need to propagate? Well we have to propagate that well we've never been doing this well but of course it's never been this dangerous. And instead of reporting on Panetta himself who went to Afghanistan, Kabul, they send this Hadi or maybe she lives there I don't know this Hadi on Fox but she's the Muslim Hadi. And this girl, I mean, and she's reading a prompter, because I mean... What's your name? I, you know, I can't, it's a Muslim name and I can't remember it. This is how stupid I am. But, and she's got her shirt like kind of unbuttoned. That's what they say, when you have the attractive presenter, you can't remember anything, you just kind of stare at them. What happens is I'm staring at her, my brain opens wide and I'm absorbing the information and taking it for truth. And she's got her blouse kind of unbuttoned and, you know, it's like, ah!

1:18:04 Black hair, beautiful, beautiful. And just listen to the talking points that she spews like a machine gun. Good morning Alex. What we do know is that on that flight from DC to Kabul, Leon Panetta, the new Secretary of Defense, did say that the strategic defeat of Al Qaeda was within reach. He says it all began with the death of Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan and the treasure trove of information that they found. Treasure trove. I'm sorry, I just have to stop at the meme. The treasure trove. been

1:18:53 He's here in Afghanistan in his first visit as a Secretary of Defense where he will be meeting his counterpart. He will also be meeting the Afghan president, but most importantly he's going to be meeting the commanders on the ground and the servicemen and women fighting the fight in Afghanistan coming at a very important time in the fight in Afghanistan primarily because this is when we expect the transition to begin in certain parts of Afghanistan, parts where they're going to be handing over the responsibility to the Afghans themselves also coming at a time where President Obama has already announced the drawdown efforts, hoping for that to end by the year 2014. Could she have said Afghanistan enough in that report? Wow. Yeah, Afghanistan, Afghanistan, and meanwhile I'm just looking under blouse. Afghanistan, Afghanistan, Afghanistan.

1:19:41 And okay, so it's clear we're gonna be there and it's gonna be more dangerous and there's more leaders and what is she saying? She's saying, Northern Africa, Yemen, it's like all the places that we're going. So it's so clear the strategy is like, okay, we got to, we'll keep 50,000 in Iraq, we'll keep 50,000 in Afghanistan, and we're just going to spread everything back out amongst five to seven new countries where Al-Qaeda has gone into franchise mode. And it's all fake. It's all fake.

1:20:19 No, it's a scam. I figured out ludicrous. I thought it figured out the blood and treasure by the way No, yes, I figured it out. It's a psyops and this was revealed in a the Journal of experimental social psychology Who came out with a report called casualties of war and sunk costs? implications for attitude change and persuasion That would be the definition of psychological warfare changing your mind Check this out. War protests, both explicit like memorials and implicit like lists of casualties, can actually make people more supportive of a war according to this new study. And here it comes.

1:21:07 Studies authors explain this by reference to what they call a don't waste or sunk cost mindset that sees blood and treasure spent on a war as an investment that can be recouped only by staying the course and winning. So now I understand why they're using blood and treasure. Where'd you get this? Go back, back, back, back up. This is the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology. The report, Casualties of War and Sunk Costs. Implications for Attitude Change and Persuasion. Where did you get this? From the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology. It's not like you get the thing in the mail.

1:21:49 Oh my journal of experimental psychology just showed up honey, hold on a second let me read it. How little you know about me. Dude this is the kind of stuff that's on the news. Dude! Dude! This is the kind of stuff that our producers post on the Noah Jen the news network dot com. Wow, good catch. And SignsDirect actually was the link to this. But of course I get the study, you know, people send me the link to the summary page. But knowagenthenewsnetwork.com if you want to be a producer, send me an email and put NANN producer in there and I'll hook you up with an account. So again, I just want to... Psy-ops, that makes sense. I mean, it just keeps cropping up too much. And a lot of people, of course, are unwittingly using the term, which just adds to the greatness of it. It's fantastic. And so the actual... Let me read that again because it's such a beautiful line. A don't waste or sunk cost mindset sees blood and treasure spent on a war as an investment that can be recouped only by staying the course and winning.

1:22:50 Holy moly it was right in our face Should I play that blood and treasure thing again? I have it somewhere. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a beauty That's actually a good idea when did when did I play that was that on the there's about two or three shows ago Really that far ago played it back Well, maybe two shows ago, but you played it at the end of the show too is the show ending Okay, hold on a second. I have I have a pretty decent system here. This is pretty good I think this is a good catch I, you know, this goes in the next newsletter I send out to the people. By the way, if you're out there listening to this show, please get on our mailing list and if you can do that by either looking at the noagendashow.com page or dvork.org when I post it, it's good. There's a little link you can sign up. We also have a new show on the No Agenda stream which is one of our producers reading our talking points which is beautiful.

1:23:48 It's like, hey, fantastic. Oh, here it is. I've got the medley. Here we go. I knew I had it. Not just their time, but their treasure. And not waste our precious blood and treasure. The loss in blood and treasure. We must make hard choices about where to spend our blood and treasure. I just don't believe that it is worth the blood and the treasure. And blood and treasure. In my mind, not only are the costs in lives and treasure. With all of the American lives. and treasure that were laid down for the lives and the treasure that were expended. A second war was launched in Iraq and we spent enormous blood and treasure. So I would submit to you, Jean-Claude, that every single politician who uses the term blood and treasure is psy-opping you and is actually trying to get you to buy into spending more on military and killing more brown people in deserts.

1:24:42 Well, I would agree with the Obama and the McCain to some that are in that clips fest that you just played. But I'm sure that on occasion one of these boneheads in Congress just hears the term and thinks it's so cool that they use it. And they're such idiots that they're playing right along with the game. Yeah. So I wouldn't say 100%, I'd say the obvious ones are obvious. I mean, McCain, Obama, Kerry, Boehner and a few others are obviously in on it, but there's probably a couple of dimwits that are just saying it because they think it sounds okay. Coming to a Talking Points memo near you very soon. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

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1:26:52 You didn't have to put that in there. About the getting rid of juries, this was a hot topic on Fox & Friends this morning. Yeah, you know, I tried, they didn't have a clip, but they had Huckabee on and they were literally saying, is it time to get rid of the jury system and get professional juries in? There's a couple of links in the show notes at 320.nashownotes.com. I think I, although it has not gone rampant the way I hoped it had, I think I said before Sunday you'll see this crop up and there it is. It cropped up. And by the way, that's a black helicopter you hear in the background, cleverly disguised as a vacuum cleaner.

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1:39:11 Well, I've taken a subscription out to the New York Times so I can get into the brainwashing side of it, but at the same time deconstruct it and hopefully not be sucked into it. But I think and I believe that the New York Times has a lot of messaging for whatever people and they tell us a lot of things that are going to happen in advance. It's almost like it's a lot of stuff in code it seems to me and I try to spot a few of these. I can't spot too many but I can spot a few and then today's Sunday Times I'll just read the basic headlines is, I mean the big headline in New York is Derek Jeter hit a 3,000. That's big news. That by the way you ask anybody what's going on in Libya I don't know but Derek Jeter yeah they know that.

1:39:55 they got the whole so i'm looking this over and they have a lot of stuff about the south sudan but the kicker i think in their age of the job is going to skip all the you know u s is deferring millions in aid for pakistan is that top headline but the one that got me i think that's the message as i hate pay attention to this on the front pages in the lower right hand corner in malaysia violence at pro-democracy rally yet and they've got colored shirts on you notice that Yeah, this is interesting. This is like a, this is the model that we've seen over and over again. You have a color, you have a democracy movement, and then you have a lot of Twitterers and Tweeters and all the rest of it in between. And that's pretty much, as far as I can tell, there's some good news, there's some interesting news inside, which the Sunday Times tends to load up with. And I'll just, a couple that I thought were interesting. There are also

1:40:46 you should also keep an eye out for Tajikistan. Oh yeah, that's where the, remember that was in the game, Call of Duty. Right, and so Tajikistan is the top of the International Insight, The Times, apparently there's a, the government there is on edge. A couple key words in here, extremely poor, mostly Muslim nation of about 7.6 million people, blah blah blah. And a couple mentions of some Buddy of George is spying for the Russians and that's that's that closes the segment. Oh wow Now but there is an adjunct and I want to bring it up which is a which is one of the little Tom Friedman clips I have and Which I think relates to this front page of this New York Times and probably the next for the next few months Play the Friedman on Arab leaders

1:41:44 uh... on by the way before you play it uh... he's called out for being in syria or do you know in lebanon as you know can and he stutters and stammers because he's like you really does not part of his script to explain why he's all over the world with these things but but any details of tells what the he gives us the message we need to hear the syrians every time they walk out the door they know the army is going to shoot at them and kill them Wow! This guy's an idiot.

1:42:36 Is that like the quote of the day is that you know every Arab leader is dead man walking and I was in Damascus Holy moly so you want to hear else who else is thrown under the bus. Yeah, wait Friedman on Israel. Oh boy Okay, here we go. I mean they've made every mistake in the book. Oh Because they were just the flip side of that you had Olmert you had an Israeli prime minister who was offering them the Clinton peace initiative and they They played games around that and even let's give BB his do he gave them a nine-month freeze in month nine the Palestinians showed up so

1:43:21 I really think this is on a tragic track. You have zero, I think, meaningful leadership on both sides. And they're heading for a train wreck at the UN. And I hope we get out of the way. I think that's the... We shouldn't veto it? I'm thinking about that. I don't want to come out yet and say, but I'm not sure that they don't need some real shock therapy. In other words, I haven't received my marching orders yet. I'm not sure what to do yet because I haven't gotten my... my handler hasn't told me. Pretty much now the most amazing clip of the day in my opinion Because I don't know if he knows what he's saying or what or if he does or whatever But you're gonna hear this you're gonna hear this clip. This is the Friedman throwing it in our face clip You're gonna as you hear this you're gonna hear a thing and they're gonna go you this is a jaw-dropper You're gonna go what?

1:44:16 to connecting Detroit, Damascus and Dara. You say where's Dara? Dara is the dusty Syrian border town where the revolt in Syria began, where they've been feeding through flip cams and video cameras and just cell phone cameras. So much information out despite the fact you realize al-jazeera the bbc cnn nbc abc cbs at new york times were all banned from syria yet if you every night you can watch footage coming out of And it's all labeled, if you look at the bottom, it's labeled SNN. What is SNN? It stands for Sham News Network. Okay? Alright? The five people in the front row here have enough money in their wallet to start Sham News Network, okay? And we have all been learning about this, so what's happened is we've, the world has gone from connected to hyper-connected, or my friend Dov has a good way of saying it, we've gone from connected to interconnected. Oh my goodness, you mean

1:45:16 The Lucifer Clinton News Network. Sham News Network? That's unbelievable. Sham News Network and he plays it straight? Does he know what the meaning of sham is? I don't think so. He plays it as though he doesn't. It's like sham is like some maybe it's an Arab name for hey my friend sham is here. I mean... Clip of the day my friend for sure. Sham News Network? Sham.org. Now sham is spelled S-H-A-A-M. So this of course is the double joke because you pronounce it as sham.

1:45:52 SNN is a group of patriotic Syrian youth activists demanding the freedom and dignity for the Syrian people, supporting the Syrian people's efforts for a democratic and peaceful change in Syria. Yeah, that's how they usually talk. SNN does not have any affiliation with any Syrian opposition parties or other states. Right. Right Sham org hold on a second. Let's do a little who is on these boat on these boats Freeman drops these guys all are named us who is dove my friend dove So sham, let's see sham is They are registered in Damascus, which is kind of cool, huh? Okay, so there's no leads there. I wonder where their servers are. Let's see. Oh

1:46:48 I'm sure our human resources will get all over this. Where are they hosted? DiscountASP.net. Nice. Visit us on Facebook, visit us on YouTube. They got a phone number here. It's a beautiful looking site by the way. Events of the Syrian revolution in English But they have a mission website so WordPress night, but it's Syrian Revolution 2011 oh Yeah, I was missing is the logo. I love this reveal the truth now They have for clear vision sham news network for clear vision. What do you have a logo? Yeah? They sure do I got a bunch of different ones. They're pretty cool-looking Wow one response to today. I guess the vision I

1:47:41 We'll be posting breaking news from SNN, Sham News Network. Of course, then they have it spelled wrong with SHAM, which is probably spelled right. What am I thinking? What do you think Sham means? What do you think that translates to? Well, let's find out. Let's ask the Book of Knowledge. You mean consult. Okay, Sham. No, professionally as Sham Tamil. Sham-a-ding-dong. He's a film actor starting his career, so that's no good. Began his career in Bangalore. There's no other entry except for this guy, this actor. Actor, get it? Gag? Yeah, wank, wank, nanu-nanu, humor.

1:48:26 Ah, that's the clip of the day, John, because this douche doesn't even understand. I mean, if we were to do something funny, we could actually come up with this. Hey, I got a great idea. Let's call it the Sham News Network, but we'll spell it S-H-A-A-M. Get it? Get it? Oh my goodness. And he even throws in flip cams. Yeah, he said Flipcams, that's right. Flipcams, that was kind of interesting. He was asked, he was asked a, not to just belabor this guy because he did have a couple of interesting, he was asked whether by somebody in the audience, you have this book you're talking about which is book promoting third parties, why don't you just put it on the internet if you want to get this stuff out so fast and then he stumbles and bumbles again, he blah blah blah blah blah and he

1:49:12 And then he says, I don't use Twitter, he doesn't really know much apparently. But he, apparently at this meeting, let's see if I have the clip. They have a phone number here which is a California area code. Oh, the Sham News Network? Yeah, that's kind of cool. Their number is, hold on, I went to New York Times somehow, I don't know how that happened. Anyway play the Aspen on Facebook clip and and see if you can spot a little interesting name dropping here The idea that I'm gonna spend a lot of time and think about it. There's gonna be some attitudes and some eyes or whatever You began this week

1:49:50 by saying you'd never use Twitter and never use Facebook at one of our discussions on this stage. And then I saw you over at Meadows with the founders of Twitter and they were both putting their, you know, Av and Biz were sort of poking back at you. Do you see your mix of media changing? Do you see yourself wanting to be more engaged in social media? Do you think books will always be the stable form that you use? F and biz Evan biz and you can always follow me on Twitter. Yeah, Evan biz Hey, so Evan biz to poking a poking at you Evan biz poking. Hey, man Hey, you know who I poked the other day Evan biz. Yeah, and now what's that? What's the broomstick boy? Evan biz and broomstick boy. Jeez Louise. I just like a douchebag that total douche fest

1:50:43 I got a, uh, it's time, John, for one of our favorite friends of the show. When we have a somewhat longer clip but it's always well worth it, who could that be? I if you're thinking what I'm thinking that's not you're not bringing in the preacher are you no no no no he's not a bunch of I haven't heard the long-legged Mac Daddy I got him I got him I got him but for Thursday show I got a whole special oh we have a long long-legged Mac Daddy special on Thursday everybody yeah okay hold on let me do the promo coming up this Thursday on the new agenda show the long-legged Mac Daddy special

1:51:23 No, this is Nigel Farage. Oh, they are second number one or number two on the hot list. Yeah, Nigel Farage. So he's a... Now this is extra long. So we have... So here's worth it being always worth all of this guy. So let's just recall what happened We had all of the Polish government and half of the elites killed in one fell swoop one to the head action We'd like missed in Russia and and then they so they brought in the douchebags who now of course are have the presidency of the European Union and

1:52:02 So that's Poland's, I think it's the presidency, it's their turn. And this is the guy that we knew was going to be the douchebag and that's why they had to get all these other people out who didn't actually want to be a part of the EU and didn't want to be a part of the Euro and didn't want the pipeline running through their harbour. And so now this guy's in and Farage goes out and attacks him. And there's a rebuttal as well, but the whole thing is just funny because you've got Barroso who of course is the chief of Starfleet command and he hates it when he has to introduce Farage and it's just a great clip. Yeah, it's a good point. He's on a list right? There's probably like a list of names and he says oh god what can we put this off till tomorrow? This guy's just number one on the hate list. Nigel Farage of the UK Independent Party.

1:52:53 I have to ask you, having listened to your words this morning, just what planet are you on? This pretends that everything is going incredibly well. The EU is mired in deep structural crisis. Greece and Portugal and Ireland cannot survive inside the euro. The Danes have torn up the Schengen Agreement, and good for them, because the total free movement of peoples is a completely irresponsible thing to have done. And public opinion is saying whilst they want a European cooperation, yes of course I agree with that, what they don't want is this Europe run by unelected bureaucrats like Mr Barroso. You say the EU is fantastic in a recent comment. You're supporting the destruction of national democracy. But it's with reference to Greece that I'm most concerned about you because when faced with their recent enslavement you said

1:53:48 We lived for many years as a non-sovereign country under Soviet occupation. For us, European integration is not a threat to sovereignty because we experienced not long ago a serious threat to our sovereignty. So what are you saying? That this isn't quite as bad as the USSR? Is that really good enough for your people? And today you describe Greece's problems as trivial. I'm sorry, there are hundreds of thousands of people out there on the streets of Greece fighting to get their democracy back. And it beggars belief that you and our president, you and our president Mr. Buzek, can talk about the Solidarity Movement, can talk about Poland getting its democracy back 20 years ago, and yet here you are, surrendering

1:54:36 the democracy and sovereignty of Poland to a failed European Union. Yes, sir, we all want a shared European cooperation for the future, but this most definitely is not the model. Thank you, Mr. Co-President. Are you ready to answer the blue card question? This is great. They have a blue card question. What is this blue? Are they in a soccer game? They hold up a blue card? It's crazy. Mr. Goebbels, hello. Blue card question.

1:55:18 Thank you, President. Mr. Farage is a little bit like a cockerel. You know, he is sitting on a heap of unmentionables and going cock-a-doodle-doo. But apart from the criticism, what about suggestions? I haven't heard a single constructive suggestion as to how we could change Europe. You know, what ideas do you have for the future of this continent then, Mr. Farage? Mr Governor, post 1945 there were some very sensible ideas put together, namely the Council of Europe. Let's have a Europe where we sit down together, where we have a free trade agreement, where we agree minimum standards on work, on the environment. We can do all of these things without a European Commission, without a European Parliament and without a European Court of Justice.

1:56:05 We've done it in security terms with NATO. Yes, it'll mean you lose your job, Mr. Broso. But apart from that, apart from that, why can't we do things as mature democracies? Yes, I want you sacked, Mr. Schultz, as well. I want you all fired. We can do those things, and that is a positive way forward. I want you all fired. I love this guy. He's right. Of course he's right. By the way, I think it's a blue card as in blue pill. So you've got the red pill, the blue pill, and the blue card is like, do you want something that is just matrix? I got a blue card question. A blue card question. This is how stupid it's gotten there. Blue card question. Geez Louise. Nigel Farage, what a fantastic guy. He cracks me up and I agree, it's right. He's just right.

1:57:01 Well, it'll have to fall apart on its own. The bankers will eventually put an end to it. Gitmo Nation Lowlands is following along with Progressive. Now they have, this is a worldwide, this is how they do it. We're predicting GPS devices in cars for years, we've been talking about this. And the way they're integrating it is by saying, hey, you want low insurance rates? Well, you got to get the black box, the GPS black box. Now, the first insurance provider in Gitmo Nation Lowlands is saying, hey, if you get the black box, it's great by the way because if you're in an accident, it will call in the ambulance for you, it checks your driving habits. Yeah, it can lock you out of your car, that's the next step. That's the next step, yeah. It's like on star. He's like, please blow in the tube before entering vehicle. Entrant denied.

1:58:07 Yeah, no, that's a foregone conclusion. Most of these cars, since for the last, almost the last 10 years have had a black box installed anyway. United States, they're... Yeah, they do. It's when your airbag deploys, there's all kinds of stuff that's already in there, right? Yeah, there's a lot of information. Yeah, I know. But they could just... And as the technology improves, I mean, essentially it's the price of memory, flash memory. You can build these things up so they pretty much can document everything you do in the car. Turn went to tell you when they turn the radio on how loud you had the radio on So when you're driving along get into an accident somebody can back, you know Some other insurance company can get your black boxes through true discovery Yeah, and say oh this person has a radio on way too loud and it was like it's radio Seriously. Hey, we detected smoke Smoking in the car you didn't have both hands on the wheel. Yeah, I

1:59:02 At some point you could document everything including both hands on the wheel. You know, it's just... Gitmo! It's Gitmo! It's totally Gitmo and it seems to me not to be that difficult to do. I have a question for you John from the technology department. Because you are of course our resident wine judge and technology expert. Techno expert. I'm a techno expert. So I was watching C-SPAN despite the party and everything I did have time and it was a very very long hearing.

1:59:44 With Department of Homeland Security, did you see this this this douche nozzle Schaefer and they're talking about components coming in from overseas, of course, they mean China already preloaded with spyware and key loggers and stuff like that. Did you see this? No I didn't, but I know that's been going on. Well so here's what's... and you'll just tell me when you've heard enough of the clip, but it's so entertaining you almost don't want to stop. So we've got a question is being asked about, you know, of this Department of Homeland Security douche nozzle, Schaefer, saying is it not true that there is spyware already pre-installed in all of the stuff that we have? And of course, you know, this is the same stuff that the government uses because it's all private contracts.

2:00:29 and the guy doesn't want to answer the question. Oh! And the reason why is because of course they're the ones installing it. Of course it's the government pre-installing this spyware into our computers and he does not want to answer the question. Thank you. I will now recognize myself for five minutes. One of the emergency national security concerns is that you have software, infrastructure, hardware, other things that are built overseas that come to the United States with items that are embedded already in them by the time they get here to the United States.

2:01:12 Are you clipping your nails? No. Obviously, security and intellectual property risks. A, is this happening, Mr. Schaefer, and B, what are we going to do to fight back against this? Thank you, sir. Clearly, supply chain risk management is an issue that the administration is focused on, that Homeland Security working with partners at the table and how are they focused on it? Is this happening? Is this happening? Whether or not there are specific examples of insertions is something I'd rather talk about in a different way. I know you'd rather not. It's just a yes or no question. Is this happening or not? We believe that there is significant risk in the area of supply chain. Is it happening, to the best of your knowledge?

2:02:11 I'm sorry, I thought I threw you a softball to begin with. Is this happening or not? Thank you. I missed the very beginning of the question and the wording that you gave me and I apologize. I don't want to get this wrong. What's there to get wrong? He's trying to, he has, his IFB isn't working. There's no one telling him what to say. So he's not, I'm going to get so fired for this. I'm so screwed if I, if I do this wrong. Are there any, are you aware of any components, software, hardware coming to the United States of America that are already embedded that have have security risks already embedded into those, those components?

2:02:48 I am aware that there have been instances where that has happened. So what are you doing? What is Homeland Security doing about what can we do about this? This is one of the most complicated and difficult challenges that we have. The range of issues... It just goes on from there, but the full clip will be in the show notes, 320.nashownotes.com. So it's clear that the guy, you know, he can't say no because if it comes out later, the truth of course, which is that our own government is having this stuff installed so we can spy on the people and other departments on each other in the government, he doesn't want to get thrown in jail for lying. So he can't say no, but he doesn't want to say yes either because then the question will be, well, where's this coming from? Who's doing it? He's really frightened this guy, and he's just a low-level douche nozzle.

2:03:40 Wow. So this is a great piece of testimony. I forget which congressman. Well, there's this for the last 10 years. There's been some pretty elaborate and interesting key loggers that keyboard loggers that essentially record everything you do into a file in terms of keyboard activity and then sends it off in an email surreptitiously and most people don't know how much stuff's being sent from their computer at any given time anyway all they have is a flashing light on your cable modem things constantly sending data you don't know what it's doing and there was a company in New Zealand that specialized in

2:04:25 very interesting key log system because most of the stuff if you have you have two or three different good versions of some anti spyware and Antivirus software you can spot the key loggers unless they're built in as a rootkit on your operating system Generally speaking you can get them off of there But there are some hardware key loggers that you can't do anything about and the best ones were made out of New Zealand some years ago and they were exact copies of of uh... where they were copies they took it like a dell keyboard that would go with one of their top machines that would be sold to the government and in the keyboard they would actually put the key logging hardware and it would do all the stuff in the keyboard as you were typing and then the keyboard would have ever so often talked to the mailing system or or to some

2:05:10 some piece of software that would then send the data to the home base. Right, so the issue is actually the keyboard itself. In fact, I have one of these Apple wireless keyboards. I should probably throw that out. We need to get wooden keyboards. It's very easy to intercept an Apple wireless keyboard, which is possibly the reason that they're so popular. Of course. You know, we need to have no agenda keyboards. And a secure keyboard, that's not a bad idea. Yeah, made of wood. secure keyboard you know from us but the thing is you'd have to have it manufactured from somebody you'd have to have it checked you'd have to have some hardware guys go over it to make sure you don't have that you know any spurious circuits but that's I think it's the keyboards nowadays that were where the spying takes place right at the keyboard level right totally impossible to detect yeah and you know oh wow well yeah we're all gonna die

2:06:04 Hey, there was an interesting bill. You know how I love to read thomas.lock.gov. July 6, 2011, Mr. Crawford introduced a bill, which is H.R. 2411, known as 2411. And would you like to know the subtitle of this bill? Here it comes. The Reduce America Debt Now Act of 2011. Here it is. It's voluntary withholding from payroll for reduction of the public debt. In general, an employee may elect for an employer to deduct and withhold upon the payment of wages by such employer amounts to be used to reduce the public debt. This is where we've gotten to now. So you can go to your employer and say, you know, I'm rocking it so big time on my paycheck, I would like you to deduct some of my pay and give it to the government in addition to my taxes. Give it to the government to pay down the public debt.

2:07:07 Is this, am I crazy or is this just like who's gonna do this? No buddy but I think you're, I think there's a secondary point here. I think the idea is to establish a precedent and a mechanism so you can do this. Oh geez, oh my goodness, sorry for taking the Lord's name in vain. Wow, bing, hello, yes, you got it. Of course we need the legal framework and then we can make it mandatory. Well, not only mandatory, but no, it would always be voluntary. It would be like this. Well, Adam, I see that you haven't been supporting your congressman and police department with the volunteer donations, have you? Oh my goodness. You don't have to. You don't have to. No, you don't have to, but you know, you know, the guy in the store has donated $2,000 to help keep us, you know, in business.

2:07:56 Oh, I'm sorry, did that rock go through your window? Oh, check it out, check it out, check it out. Amendment to the 1986 tax code of the IRS, returnal revenue, amended by striking or at the end of paragraph blah blah blah and then inserting the following new paragraph, any amount deducted and withheld pursuant to an election under section 2 of the Reduce America Debt Now Act of 2011. There you have it. Wow. A form of the creation of an extortion scheme to basically extort the public legally. Oh, I think I'm gonna throw up. Wow. I didn't know it was that bad. Well, I mean what else would it be? Yeah, I know you're so right. You know, I was in Ralph's Wednesday night, Thursday night, because I wanted to get balloons for Mickey.

2:08:54 And of course I slept during the day because I get a balloon. I thought you'd get the balloons on Hollywood Boulevard. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm thinking of something else. So I go to Ralph's, which is kind of like a mid-range kind of supermarket, and it's in the evening. And I go to the counter because you have to have them inflated with helium, and I pick out my balloons. And I'm like, there's no one there, and I'm waiting. And I'm like, so finally I spot a guy who looks all flustered. He's the manager. I say, hey man, you got anyone for the balloons? Yeah, I guess I'm going to. And then Freddy comes over. Freddy's probably about 55. He's a Mexican, American-Mexican, you know, American citizen I presume. And it's taken a while because, you know, I got a whole bunch of balloons and he's blowing them up. And I'm like, hey Freddy, man, your manager seems like kind of freaked out. And he said, Freddy says, yeah, you know, it's like we got no people here and... because there were only two checkout lines and it was like long lines. And the Ralphs has like 14 check, 15 checkout lines.

2:09:50 This is, you know, we got no people. So what are you talking about? Yeah, no, we're trying to compete now with Walmart and Target who are selling food. And right now we're in negotiation. My union is about to agree to a $2 per hour pay cut and he has to pay for 50% of his health benefits. And this guy can't make more than 10 bucks an hour. And like, wow. I said, and isn't Obamacare supposed to take care of that? And he looks at me, Freddy looks at me and goes like, they better not re-elect that cocksucker. Okay, Freddy. But can you believe that? You know, the Walmart up in Port Angeles, in the Port Angeles area, it's in the town of Squim.

2:10:40 have decided to start selling food and they literally put our favorite grocery stores out of business. And it's crap. And shut down the marketplace, SARS marketplace, grocery store, which is a great place, had some of the best deals on everything and a lot of ethnic food that you can't get any place else up in the peninsula. And just they shut down because of Walmart. Shut them down. Yeah. And Walmart, and Freddy was saying, he said, Walmart is this crap. He said, it's sawdust packaged. It's crap. So we have a market down the street from me here in the northern Silicon Valley area and they have a big food section. I don't see anybody shopping in there and all the stuff is just pre-packaged. You know, there's not a lot of, I mean, they got a fruit and vegetable section but the whole thing is just, it's stir out crap. It's crap. It's a crap section. It's not food, it's crap. Well, they have, you know. Remember to visit poopburger.com.

2:11:34 I have two clips and then that's kind of what I have. I think you might have a clip left. I have another piece from C-SPAN, which I want to listen to the whole thing, two and a half minutes. This is Representative DeFazio and he has introduced a bill calling for an audit of the Pentagon, which is of course is a good idea, but in this rant, which I think is called his turn at bat, He gives us information that I did not know and is such an outrage if the American public actually, you know, if Anderson Cooper were to get on the box and start hammering this like he hammers the Casey Anthony trial, people might actually get an audit done and we'd be all freaked out when we find out the truth. This is the biggest expenditure. This is what our taxes go towards. This is what no one wants to reduce because as the president said, we can't just lop off 25%. We can't just lop that off.

2:12:30 We can't do that, we gotta make sure our soldiers are safe. The gentleman is recognized for five minutes. Colleagues, 1990, Congress passed a law that required that all, all federal agencies, including the Department of Defense, must have auditable financial statements every year. Since that time, the Department of Defense has spent $10 trillion, $10,000 billion, and yet no audit has been conducted. In fact, there are numerous problems with accounting at DOD, and their financial management has been rated as high risk by the Government Accountability Office.

2:13:20 Unfortunately, the Pentagon, being incapable of being audited, sought an exemption from audits. So in 2005, Congress passed a ban on completing an audit. It was contained in section 376 of the 2006 National Defense Authorization Act. But in 2007, or 2009, Congress got tough and they said, well look, we've exempted you from audits, but let's have a goal, not a mandate, a goal of you doing an audit by 2017. Yet last September, in a hearing, Pentagon officials stated that meeting a deadline of 2017 for ever having their first ever audit of their books, and they will spend $4 trillion between now and 2017 without an audit,

2:14:11 They said they would need more money, more money to be auditable. That's chutzpah. That's incredible. So what we're attempting to do here tonight is to say that we're going to suspend the exemption. The DOD, it's time for them to get their books in order. There is nothing, nothing more important for our men and women in uniform than to know that every dollar, every precious tax dollar is being spent properly to give them the tools they need to defend our nation. And the taxpayers of this country concerned about our massive deficit and the concerns that are being expressed here in these deficit and debt talks downtown, the taxpayers need to know that we're not wasting money in the single largest annual account

2:14:54 of the federal budget which is not audited. The expenditures of the Pentagon. In 19, in fiscal year 2010, half of DOD's contract awards were not competed. That's half. 140 billion of them, there was no competition at all. And in 48 billion, there was one. one competitor. So we have a lot of work to do here. In 2000, the Pentagon Inspector General found that $7.6 trillion in accounting areas, of entries, $2.3 trillion, quote, were not supported by adequate audit trails or sufficient evidence to determine their validity. I mean, we don't know where that $2.3 trillion went. There you go. Adios, mofo.

2:15:49 Wow. 2.3 trillion dollars and unauditable by law by by congressional mandate. Yeah that's our Congress that's what people you voted in. Am I supposed to be depressed or is there a ray of hope somewhere? There's no ray of hope. Yeah there is. the aliens are coming so uh... save us i don't have anything to top that i do have a kind of amusing uh... since you know people are saying what we're calling out different people is this sleazeballs and douchebags and we'd tend to point the finger at the obama administration but the right wing in the right wingers the conservatives have got their own share of these and i was just or to no end because this woman and culture ads as debatable if she's a woman

2:16:40 She comes on, she's pushing, she's got, she basically is a book writing machine. And she cranks out books and she, you know, they're not, you know, they give me so much. Have you read them? I've never read her books. She makes a lot of money. She's a good, she's actually a pretty good public speaker when you get to hear her too. She's not bad, but she's really something, I mean, she is a douchebag to the highest order. I heard she was a transsexual stage dancer in Florida. Yeah, that's a myth. I don't think it's true. She's got an Adam's apple. Yeah, she's so skinny I think anybody would. But anyway, it's beside the point. She is part of the classic, you know, she pretends to be in the Tea Party and she says she's a big shot conservative and she is, but she's one of those checklist conservatives that's really more of a Nazi. I hate it when you say that. That's a very good description. And she, and it comes on that she has nothing but disdain, like

2:17:35 like a lot of these people, I would put a bunch of these so-called conservatives in this camp. Distain, increased disdain for the libertarians of the country, complete disdain for anybody who questions government interference in private life. They always talk a big game, but when it comes down to it, they are all for it. I mean, this is, you know, we had this problem with George Bush. So anyway, She's on with Stossel, who is a notorious libertarian, and he brings up the one thing about legalizing drugs. He doesn't really bring it up, but I mean, and we're talking about, when we talk about legalizing drugs, we're talking about decriminalizing, and there's a, the rationale for doing that is, and Portugal is the best example, which is, no one wants to talk about how great it turned out in Portugal, but it did. And all she does, instead of even arguing the point, she just mocks him,

2:18:27 And because he had to let her on to plug her book, he doesn't really back, you know, he just says we'll discuss it some other time. But she has this little laugh, this phony baloney laugh that she throws out and I kind of emphasized it at the end by looping it. But I just found this extremely annoying. Sorry. I'm sorry, I really detest this woman's attitude. How about the drug war? That's a Republican scheme. Oh, you libertarians and the drug war. It's a Republican scheme. When I come back and we discuss libertarians, I'm going to point out that amidst this mass of regulation, you people cannot stop talking about legalizing drugs and you'll deny it. So viewers, remember that. No, it's a big one. It's a big one. All right, we will come back to that.

2:19:16 Thank you very much, Ann Coulter. And by the way, he just talked about the drug war. He didn't say anything about legalizing drugs. He just thought it was a phony baloney operation started by the Republicans and then she jumps all over him. I mean, really people have to rethink their attitude toward her. I know your attitude has always been bad, but she shows up with the right arguments generally, but she's she is one of these people. She's an idiot and an annoying bitch.

2:19:57 Well, I said it they're all annoying everyone on television is annoying and in fact I get it's a real downer, but we sit you know John and I do this all week We sit there and watch all this crap so you don't have to and I love it when people send us messages to say I don't need to watch any of that crap because you guys are doing it for me and you'll filter it and give me at least Probably a true representation of what's being said and what the messaging is versus you know, it's tiring It's tiring when you have to sit through this Oh, you think I don't get mind-controlled by blood and treasure? That's why you know actually we always that's a big fear that I always have when I then now that I'm a subscriber to the New York Times. You're lost my friend. You have to really be on your best game. Yeah. Because you can I've done it before I remember incidents during the show for the last couple of years every once in a while I'll come up with something and I'll because I see it from a certain perspective and then it turns out and then you you catch me

2:20:58 And say, wait a minute, you're actually seeing it from the right... and then you have the right perspective and I do it with you once in a while. And it's galling! Because it's like, that son of a bitch, I was tricked! And that's one of the reasons, by the way, we can't do the show solo. Oh no, no, no, you can't. You lose. You will lose out and become a mumbling mass of goo. Yeah, and so but the point is it's so easy to get sucked in and this blood and treasure thing which I'm glad that you found the source, or our listeners did, is like a good example of you know, we knew it was something weird about it but we couldn't put our fingers on what, we just knew it was weird but we couldn't document anything and boom. Yeah. And you know, so it's very easy, it's very actually very difficult to fight it.

2:21:50 It's tiring and yet you have to really be in the right mind frame to do this. I mean, I have to have the sound off. If I'm too tired and I just can't watch anything. I will say one thing that's interesting because I've caught and you have to caught more than a few things because we'll clip them off TV thinking that's a good clip for reason A but then when you listen to it without all the body language and all the you just listen to the words you find reason B that it's interesting. Exactly. And I've run into more things I actually some of my best stuff on this show has been because I've listened to the clips after I clipped them and heard something new. You gotta go back from to- and that- and well it's just- it's- it's how we hear different things in the bad acting segments and when the visuals are not there, all of a sudden it becomes very clear. And now I am tired. I do want to mention for the many people who ask, this is the Marriott Jazz Quintet. The title of this track is On the Seventh Day. It is a pod safe track and many people ask me about it because they love it.

2:22:53 It's kind of soothing. It kind of brings you into the, you know, it's kind of like our birthing process, this track. So after the show is done, so you can kind of like be birthed back into the cruel evil world. Wait a minute, where are we? Hey! Alright, John, as always. Jean-Claude, good to talk to you. And I'm spent. Alright, we'll sign off. Noah Jenner producer update coming up right after this show ends on the stream NoahJennerStream.com from Gitmo Nation West, People's Republic of Silicon, California, yay, where I am very happy and have the munchies. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we have our kind of a summer going on, which is fine with me. I'm John C. Dvorak. We will talk to you again on Thursday, right here on Noah Jenner.

2:23:51 Ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha! Ha ha ha! Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org slash N-A