Episode 305 · Thursday, 19 May 2011

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Global power shifts at the IMF collide with White House cyber strategies and a predicted apocalypse as the world prepares for the end of days.

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Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama lead a high-stakes diplomatic push as the White House prepares for a major address on the Arab Spring. Amidst these geopolitical shifts, the arrest of IMF Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn in New York triggers a global power struggle over the future of international finance. While French philosopher Bernard-Henri Lévy defends the disgraced official, speculation grows regarding a potential political hit orchestrated by rival banking interests in Brussels and Beijing.

Secondary developments include the International Criminal Court investigating Muammar Gaddafi for allegedly distributing Viagra to Libyan troops to facilitate systematic rape. In the United States, the Obama administration faces criticism for the criminal prosecution of NSA whistleblower Thomas Drake under the Espionage Act. Meanwhile, Chief Information Officer Vivek Kundra promotes a federal cloud computing strategy as the National Defense Authorization Act introduces the controversial 'belligerent' label for domestic dissenters. Financial analysts Dean Baker and Timothy Geithner monitor the debt ceiling crisis, while Monsanto debuts a new catalog of engineered 'tearless' onions and high-antioxidant broccoli.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak navigate the predicted May 21st apocalypse fueled by Harold Camping’s mathematical end-of-days prophecy. The hosts perform a formal knighting ceremony for executive producers including Sir James Brewis and Sir Michael Miller, despite the looming threat of the world ending on Saturday. A final look at Condoleezza Rice dismissing Donald Rumsfeld as a 'grumpy prick' closes out the broadcast from the Hilltop Watchtower.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 305 Introduction, Hillary Clinton Speech Observation

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open Episode 305 of No Agenda on May 19, 2011. The hosts observe a live stream from whitehouse.gov where Hillary Clinton is delivering a speech as a warm-up act for President Barack Obama. They comment on the weather in California and the upcoming predicted end-of-days.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· episode 305· hillary clinton· whitehouse.gov· hilltop watchtower

00:00 How about you? Are you traumatized? Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It is Thursday May 19th 2011 time for your Gidmonation Media Assassination Episode 305 This is no agenda End of days here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center Gidmonation West in the People's Republic of Southern California I am the belligerent Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we only have a couple days left before I think the weather changes. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! In the morning to you John The weather is going to change You know I looked at... First of all in the morning John? In the morning to you and in the morning to all ships at sea and feet in the air! Hey! Feets and ankles in the stirrups

00:51 And all of the human resources in the chatroom, noagendachat.net and noagendastream.com Human resources belligerent abhorrent and charged up and ready to go the way their government loves them Yeah So I've read up on this End-of-days we only have now do we get a Saturday night to party or does it just end? It's like Friday night and then on Saturday the 21st We all get Friday night that party how many party nights do you need? Just ask good. I'm just asking so um I've done some research This apparently comes from Noah. Can I stop you for a second because i've been watching this whitehouse.gov slash live which is the president's speech? Tell me that when we started he started

01:35 No. Hillary came out, she's a warm-up act! When did this happen? Nobody even introduced her she comes rolling out now she's doing material What is she saying do we have to listen I can't listen to it and talk Turn it off turn it off turn it off okay No. I don't want you distracted, turn it off! I'm not distracted, i'm just watching... Now she's doing something with her hand under her arm pit and she is making some sort of farting noise. And now she's blowing up balloons, she's making dogs out of long balloons. Hello everybody! Hillary great job on the balloons! Hello everybody!

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

Harold Camping May 21st End-of-the-World Prediction Analysis

The hosts analyze the religious prediction that the world will end on May 21, 2011, based on interpretations of Genesis 7:4. They break down the mathematical justification involving 7,000 years since the biblical flood and the significance of the number 722,500. The discussion notes the presence of fliers in New York subways and media coverage by Business Insider.

harold camping· genesis 7:4· rapture· may 21 2011· end of days· business insider

02:20 So here's how it works May 21st is when The world is supposed to end. Now what I understand is this comes from Genesis 7-4. Okay, this is the Ask Adam issue here. You know, I was thinking about this before the show and said wait a minute Besides the fact that there's apparently a bunch of people in the New York subways, you know handing out brochures I don't know why you need to brochure for the end-of-the-world for whatever the case. I'm trying just fly it I mean, I don't know where this comes from. I just heard about that 521 thing a couple months ago Well first of all those aren't brochures Those are fliers cuz then you know The movements gotten a little hipper so it comes from Genesis 7 4 when God said to Noah hold on seven days from now

03:21 I will send rain on the earth for 40 days and 40 nights. They already did that! And i will wipe from the face of the earth every living creature I've made right he did that but here it comes no apparent reason well um He wanted to be in a movie so one day uh, So here goes when God referred to seven days He was actually referring simultaneously to 7,000 years because one day is with the Lord as a thousand years and 1,000 years as one day. It's all scripture John it's all documented so the flood occurred on 4990 BC exactly seven thousand years later in 2011 So there are 722 500 days between the dates

04:10 722,500 significant number because it is composed of other significant numbers 5 times 10 times 17 times five times ten time seventeen. Five signifies redemption Ten signifies completion Seventeen signifies heaven and there you have it so what is going to happen? It's going to rain. What nut balls come up with this stuff Business insider dot-com Those guys seem to be pretty official. I'm talking about the people who dreamed up, these religious guys who dreamed this up in the first place! Well you can't just go calling religious people nuts and... I'm not calling religious people nuts, i'm calling these religious people nuts. So uh but I have to say that if we are indeed going to get 40 days and 40 nights of rain, the weather is definitely looking like it. I thought it was the rapture? Yeah but that's part of it, we all get swept away

05:05 It's raining in New York, it's raining in Los Angeles. Sorry, rain last week. Alright well anyway hopefully some people agree with these theories and sent us their life savings to support the show yeah you might as well if you're gonna go you might as well go first class eh? But a lot of interesting things happening the president of course as we speak trying to distract everyone from listening to our... he's doing the same thing that us they did Trump you know try to preempt us. Hey let's do it at 9 wait those guys haven't started yet it still the fat lady singing hello everybody wait a minute Adam and John started and then the minute we start and he seriously Hillary was on stage? No, Hillary came out and then he came out about a minute ago and what was funny

CHAPTER 03 / 36 Discussion

Dominique Strauss-Kahn IMF Scandal and Global Power Struggles

The arrest of IMF Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn (DSK) is examined as a potential political hit. The hosts compare his treatment to Al Gore's past scandals and review the official IMF schedule leading up to the incident. They highlight the roles of John Lipsky and the shift of influence toward sovereign wealth funds in Beijing versus the elite circles in Brussels.

dominique strauss-kahn· imf· john lipsky· dsk· brussels· bretton woods

06:04 She's came off the stage as she did her act she came off her stay off the stage and then he gave her a man kind of A loose man hug with a cup with a pat on the back Wow no air kiss No, I mean it was like two guys. Hey hey that is really good She stomped off and that was the end of it on our clumps So um I've been fascinated by By the DSK scandal. What's the DSK scandal? Dominique Smith-Khan! Oh, this guy... Yeah because what I did is that I did some research. I call him the IMF guy. Okay well it was DSK

06:45 So I've been doing my research and the best, you know because of course we want to know why this took place. Because the first thing i think we immediately identified this as the Al Gore hit but look at the difference between what happened with al gore and this guy did al gore get picked up? At the airport? Did Al Gore get thrown in jail? Did Al Gore have to do the perp walk now none of that! This guy immediately thrown in jail custody The police took DNA samples. It's interesting, they took DNA samples from the carpet apparently splooged. Disgusting! It is totally disgusting I've got all the reports in fact Smoking Gun has the... it's kind of funny to read Has the Dominique Strauss-Kahn complaint. I don't know how these guys get this stuff

07:37 Deponent states the deponent is informed by an individual known to the district attorney's office that the defendant 1. Shut the door to the above location and prevented informant from leaving the above location 2. Grabbed the informants breasts without consent 3 attempted to pull down informants pantyhose and forcibly grabbed informants vaginal area 4. Forcibly made contact with his penis and informant's mouth twice. Honey, I'm in the news! 5. Was able to accomplish the above acts by using physical force

08:19 So there's all kinds of stuff and all kinds of disinformation. Everyone is kind of focusing on the Parisian or the French elections, which I think is really the true distraction but a couple things that did come up against First of all, I went to the IMF.org site and combed through it all And they have this interesting woman who comes out every day or so and she does the embargoed information release of the day This is from before the incident on May 12th Listen to where the different people in the IMF were So we have the managing director Dominic Strauss-Kahn Then the second guy who's now the number one guy temporarily which is

09:03 Of course, what's his name? How come I can't remember? This is crazy. Yeah, the American guy! The JP Morgan guy. So Lipsky... John Lipsky. So listen to where everybody was and who's doing important things and who's not. Director of the External Relations Department at the IMF welcome to our regular bi-weekly press briefing. This is the elitist bullcrap. The briefing has embargoed as usual until 1030 a.m Washington time or 1430 GMT First of all on upcoming travel and management events, the managing director is going to be in Brussels next week. On the 18th he will make a keynote address at the 12th

09:47 Brussels Economic Forum. So notice he was going to hang out with the elites in Brussels, this is Dominic Smith Strauss-Kahn and then on the 19th he'll be back here in Washington and will be speaking at a Bretton Woods Committee annual 2011 Annual Meeting which is closed or an event by invitation but we may post his remarks And we certainly will be posting his remarks for the 10th annual Niarchos Lecture at the Peterson Institute, which starts at 5pm and is open to the media. I'm sure you'll ask if he's there on time for the Peterson Institute.

10:25 And meanwhile the first deputy managing director Mr. Lipsky is in Beijing for the sovereign wealth funds forum Sounds like a little more important gig to me, what do you think John? More important to be with the Chinese and the sovereign wealth guys than in Brussels with a bunch of elitist losers I don't know Yeah I think so Why Because that's where the money is! Now what's happening here? I have two theories So, you know this Farid Zakaria guy on CNN who does this GPS show that we've been kind of wondering about? Yeah. Turns out he's a Bilderberger He is always invited to the drinking club as you call it Of course I call it the evil elitist It's a drinking club and he's a member Right, he's a member

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

Farid Zakaria, Global Financial Reform, and the Fat Tax

Farid Zakaria's CNN program GPS is scrutinized for its ties to the Bilderberg Group and its promotion of global financial reform. The hosts discuss Dominique Strauss-Kahn's proposal for a Financial Activities Tax (FAT tax), which would target high-frequency trading. They suggest this tax is an attack on Goldman Sachs by international banking interests.

farid zakaria· bilderberg· fat tax· goldman sachs· high frequency trading· imf

11:11 Why is he a member's a big question of my well, I think he's meant to propagate some of the message So he brings in his other friends including Dominic Strauss-kahn and Christine Lagarde On his show but listen how he opens it up and how he talks about it And then hear what Dominique Strauss-Kahn has to say when was this? This is that two weeks ago Okay, so this is before he was arrested. This is all before he's arrested which is very important We need everyone's looking at stuff now know you got to go backwards in history about who does and does not control the world economy Well today I've assembled a bunch of folks who you could argue actually do this is not the Bilderberg This is not the Trilateral Commission Could the guy throw it my face anymore?

11:58 This is not Bilderberg and Trilateral. Thanks, Farid. Parman Shanmugaratnam is the finance minister of Singapore and Dominic Strauss-Kahn has been called the guardian of the global financial system. He is the managing director of the International Monetary Fund, so let's talk about financial reform. Dominic Strausskahn whoever in your organization came up with the acronym for the tax you have proposed deserves a gold medal because it is of course

12:34 exquisitely named the fat tax other countries have that taxes you are proposing a fat tax attacks of financial activities transaction tax The idea here is presumably to achieve some kind of global commonality exactly along the lines that Larry Summers are suggesting but France has immediately said as far as I can tell well wait a minute We don't have banks that need to be taxed Singapore isn't going to go along with it Tokyo isn't going to go along with it Canada Isn't gonna. Go along with it so there you have four important financial centers that aren't gonna go along Okay, so now you have to understand I went back and looked at the history both these organizations were formed came out of Bretton Woods in the mid 40s The World Bank and the IMF. Now what's interesting is that the World Bank actually does policy And the International Monetary Fund is the bank they do the actual money which I mean Is this I know this is meant to confuse us but the fund? Is the bank has called the fund and the and the fund is called the bank

13:37 And of course this bank, yeah it's a member countries blah blah blah but we all know the International Monetary Fund consists of banks. JP Morgan is a big part of that Of course Lipsky is a former JPMorgan guy and so this Dominique Strauss-Kahn essentially was saying hey all you are bankers were going to start taxing on your transactions I don't think that makes him a very popular guy John what do you think? Well there's more to it than as a matter fact I think this is part of a concerted effort along with the story actually have on the clips where they're going after banks who are supposedly defrauding the public with their mortgage deals that they piece together and they're trying to slip in Goldman Sachs, who i think is either Goldman Sachs has gone off the reservation or they've gone too far something. I think this is actually an attack on Goldman Sachs by the international banksters. Why do I say that? Yeah why do you say that

14:35 Because the fat tax itself, if you think about it. What is it? What's a tax on financial transactions? How does that work with high frequency trading? Well yeah well... High-frequency trading is the artificial trading of millions and millions of shares instantly and if those are going to be taxed individually which would have to do this if this taxes implemented the way they say It would kill high frequency trading period And it will also sink Goldman Sachs and because I mean they're essentially their whole business is high frequency trading. So, I think that's that can be a part of it maybe just one of the many reasons there's another report that the IMF was planning on releasing SDR backed bonds which of course would effectively make the SDR a former reserve currency so of course we can't have that We needed to choose

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

European Leadership Battle for IMF Managing Director Position

European Union leaders, including Jose Manuel Barroso and Angela Merkel, advocate for keeping a European at the head of the IMF. Timothy Geithner comments on the interim leadership of John Lipsky. Adam Curry predicts that the next head of the IMF will be the Egyptian Finance Minister as part of a U.S. strategy to control the Arab Spring.

jose manuel barroso· angela merkel· timothy geithner· imf· egypt· christine lagarde

15:32 Head of the IMF anyway and typically the Europeans get to choose this. And so now we actually have a clip from Baroso who is the he runs the Starfleet command there in Europe. Now listen to what he has to say because there's a war between the French and Germans about who is going to be chosen to replace the guy. There has been clear desire by Chancellor Merkel and others, to retain a European as managing director of the International Monetary Fund Is it time to get some clarity though since there is so much global attention on what transpiring with Dominique Strauss-Kahn? Look first of all I think that executive director

16:14 has to be chosen on merit. We want a strong, respected, competent executive director for the IMF but I think it is only natural that European Union countries together they are by far the biggest stakeholder, the biggest contributor to the IMF feel the responsibility to present a good candidate. So yes, I hope there will be a good candidate for European Union from the European Union that will be able to give IMF credible and strong leadership Should we break the mold of a European at the IMF an American running the World Bank? This is very important what's coming up should we get out of that practice? Look once again if they are doing good jobs

16:58 why should we replace? I mean Zolik is doing a great job in the World Bank so I think it should go on. Now, we have the problem now in the leadership with IMF so let's find another one and then the leader for that. It should be European as what you are suggesting. Yes, I think it should be European because once again Europeans together By far even only the euro area countries alone. They are the biggest stakeholder in the IMF and there are a lot of Europeans that can do their job So why why now choose someone because it's not European that makes no sense so I think they're big good candidates from Europe Let's not make now an issue of flag Flag German or French flag, I Think well get to get to the point these clips are not telling me anything okay? Well you got to listen to what Timmy Geithner says

17:48 He's obviously not in a position to run the IMF and I think it is important that the board of the IMF formally put in place for an interim period somebody to act as managing director. They have in John Lipsky It's not the constitutional order of succession, but the legal order of succession. And he is a very capable person with a lot experience so I think that is an appropriate step to take So we clearly want someone who can control it and cannot be American because we don't get to choose the number one spot I'm going to make a prediction...it's going to be Egyptian and it will be the finance minister of Egypt

18:23 forget the guy's name, I'll get it for you in a second. He is going to become the next head of the IMF and that's why the president is now coming out with the Arab Spring and giving two billion dollars to Egypt and they have total control over the IMF by proxy through the Egyptian guy totally wiping out the control of Europe this is against Europe its against... Timmy Geithner also tried to stop or he successfully stopped the haircut that bankers were going to take on Ireland. This guy went to jail immediately, 1.5 billion euros goes to Ireland which he vetoed two days before and this is a big power struggle John and i think we're gonna see the Egyptian guy become the new leader of IMF. Will you write it down? Yeah write it down. Write it down. I think that's unlikely Okay You know there are a lot of countries who feel they should be in there

CHAPTER 06 / 36 Discussion

New York Police Perp Walk Ethics and Alan Dershowitz

The practice of the "perp walk" in the New York criminal justice system is criticized as a form of purposeful humiliation coordinated with tabloid media. Attorneys Roy Black and Alan Dershowitz discuss the impact of these images on the presumption of innocence. The hosts compare the rapid DNA testing in the Osama bin Laden raid to the slower processing in the DSK case.

perp walk· roy black· alan dershowitz· piers morgan· dsk· criminal justice

19:23 Yeah, well they can feel this. So we'll see I mean it's in the book and we'll see... But I think, I think we both agree there's definitely something weird going on and that. I also but i want to play something that has to do with the arrest of this guy mainly because it was uh there's a guy that was on Pierce Morgan he had a couple people on believe it or not he suffered through that but did a couple defense attorneys into including Alan Dershowitz and they talked about something that I don't know if we really discussed it, but the you know it's brought up in all the Law and Order shows and we just kind of take it for granted. The so-called perp walk? Yeah It's kind of...I never thought about until I listened to this guy Roy Black on the perp walk or I'm sorry yeah Roy Black

20:16 that is actually a disgusting practice. That is, it's purposeful humiliation? Yeah and apparently the arrangements are made with the media with the tabloid media in particular to line up and take pictures of the guy but play these two clips on the perp walk I just actually think it's quite disgusting Oh we have two clips okay so you have one and two That's a typical kind of bail package that is put together in New York, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was released on bail on Friday. There is obviously huge conjecture from the French that he has either been set up or victimised by the media and there shouldn't have been these images of him Has he been treated any differently to anybody else would be treated in his position? If they weren't well known

21:04 No, he's treated equally poor that we treat everybody in our criminal justice system. In New York particularly they love this perp walk the police have a deal with the tabloids They'll parade you in front of them with handcuffs on they keep you up all night You don't shave you look horrible so they have wonderful photographs for the front page of the tabloids every morning Unfortunately we do that with almost everybody So of course the French are very outraged to see, you know this violation of privacy because they put a lot of stock in that. It is an outrage I tell you! He cannot shave under his armpits

21:40 You know, it's an incredibly biased and unfair thing to do innocent or guilty if you think about it. And the French are probably right about this. And I never thought much about it because they always... It's always like used as a punchline in TV shows. Let's get the rest of them to make you do the perp walk But I never thought it was rigged for specifically for the media and make sure that you look like crap You know which has got to buy us any jury at its point I mean the whole justice system seems to be poisoning the jury pool in any way they can and how is it that we can get Osama bin Laden's DNA on the spot within six hours, but we can't get this guy's splooge DNA matched in four days

22:25 Well, they probably don't have the new technology there. There is a technology that allows you to do a four-hour DNA test Play the play the Dershowitz thing he follows up on this perp walk I'm sorry just as one aspect of it I never thought about it clearly and now I'm kind of galled by the whole thing Is this perp walk two or is this Dershowitz? Yeah, perp walk 2 Quote here for a moment You say I am troubled by a system of justice modestly termed accused... I'm sorry That's that's the wrong one isn't Sounds like the wrong one. It's the wrong one I'm sorry here we go here and oh sure it's I mean it does seem pretty extraordinary for the journalist in me says great You know very happy that they do this, and we get these great images And we can all feast on them in the media But in terms of this guy his reputation he has an incredibly powerful job If you take a presumption of innocent till proven guilty, it's pretty unfair isn't it?

23:18 It's very unfair. It is very deliberate, it is intended to present him as guilty and looking predatory in the worst possible light If he is granted bail, as he should be granted bail tomorrow He will then be able to appear not in public but appear in photographs looking like how he used to look And perhaps presenting himself in a more credible way So its clear this was a hit The guy was totally hit There's all kinds of question marks and again, you know Al Gore didn't go through this. He did essentially exactly the same Yeah, no Al Gore was targeted yeah it was targeted but this is a big deal boy talk about he disappeared Thank God But then you know the guy of course he resigned

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

Arab Spring Rhetoric and Alleged Osama bin Laden Documents

President Obama's upcoming speech on the Arab Spring is discussed alongside reports that documents found in Osama bin Laden's compound showed support for the movement. The hosts express skepticism toward the timing of these leaks, suggesting they are being used to align the administration's goals with the narrative of democratic uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia.

arab spring· osama bin laden· barack obama· al qaeda· egypt· tunisia

24:07 He resigned last night. Yeah, he resigned yesterday. So let's see I think there is a good chance it is going to be the Egyptian guy if its Christine Lagarde who some of the media are trying to tout as the front runner I'd be highly surprised and I think we are in total United States of Gitmo Nation were taking over world you know we're gonna own Egypt, we're gonna own Tunisia economic hitman style hey here's two billion dollars for your people under 30 What about our people under 30 here at home? We could use two billion dollars. I would say it's disgusting. It's all thing in the president that the President speech they was leaked to everybody yesterday everyone knows what's coming up its Arab Spring, Arab Spring

24:53 Did you see this story which I thought was hilarious that now they've gone through Osama's material and they found that he thinks Arab Spring is a good thing, and maybe Al Qaeda is not so hot. Bull crap! What are they making it up now? Now they're just bringing out right on time. It's perfect. Hey Arab Spring good thing. That's right Osama Obama we're all on the same page Anyway, I uh...I did have a just a good laugh at that. You know that French douchebag? Bernard-Henri Lévy? That French douche bag yeah! Yeah so he's the expert now to call and I love it when you have um

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

Bernard-Henri Lévy Defends DSK and Dismisses Conspiracy Theories

French philosopher Bernard-Henri Lévy appears on CNN with Eliot Spitzer to defend Dominique Strauss-Kahn, arguing that the reputational harm of the accusations is a "violent" and "cruel" injustice. Lévy dismisses theories that the arrest was a setup by Nicolas Sarkozy's party as "comfortable" conspiracy theories. The hosts mock Lévy's defense and discuss DSK's resignation from the IMF.

bernard-henri levy· eliot spitzer· dsk· imf· conspiracy theory· french elections

25:36 What's his name? I'm losing all the names today. The hooker guy, the attorney general who got the hookers on CNN. Spitzer! Eliot Spitzer of course they're like hey get spitzer on this is totally for him it's high-powered and chicks and prostitutes because now you know he's an expert Hey man, Elliot you know by the way he got hit in a very similar manner only it's one thing with prostitutes another one when it is written there he put his penis on my mouth so they call up the douchebag. Quote here for moment you say I am troubled by a system of justice modestly termed accusatory meaning that anyone can come along and accuse another fellow of any crime that is infact the foundation of our judicial system people

26:25 level accusations, they then have to swear to them. He's talking about himself you know that and in fact that is what the complainant of the victim so alleged victim in this case has done do you have any reason to doubt the veracity of her complaint? But of course! What I say is that in this system, which is the American system there are good sides and bad sides. The bad side is that for someone like Dominique Foscane if it appears that the claim is false... If it appears...

27:02 Everyone we have like two French listeners, and they'll say no one talks like that this guy is he's putting on an act It's like this is exactly what the American public wants to hear a French guy sounding. Oh yeah If it appears that He did not commit the crime of which he is accused used up the current moment the moment of today Will be something terrible which will follow him till the end of his life There is something so violent So cruel these images which have been shot of him. So he's totally on board with the whole perp walk thing, he thinks it is vile and cruel And released worldwide I know that it is a case for any man and there is sort of democratic obligation to treat each man as if equally

28:07 But the problem is that this is hypocrisy. Everybody knows that Dominique Swarovski is not exactly anyone! Anybody, everybody knows... He know he's a powerful man! ...that an average man suspected of having committed a crime goes out of the police station there will be no photographer, there will be nobody If it is Dominique Roscan, director of the IMF you will have the press of all over the world. See he's on board with it John! He's saying this perp walk is crazy So the apparent equality of treatment between the average guy and Dominique Roscan turns out to be a real inequality It turns out to be really unequal

28:56 unfair, Kudim. If what you're saying is that an accusation once leveled even if disproven the reputational harm is never undone there's... Let me just go to the end here Oh yeah that spitzer moaning about himself Of course because he got his own shit going on Yeah he got screwed the same exact way and the thing as you know when before apparently if you listen to Dershowitz in black the you know they did with somebody at this said to precinct house causal calls the media guys I'm saying we got a perp walk for it's a beauty and to get his game from the IMF rich fuck you know yeah some pictures of radar online come on boys so of course you want to know if

29:36 And by the way, I want to mention something else. You remember those in the olden days before the perp walk became institutionalized? Where these guys would come out of these hearings or wherever they were in and they'd be holding a blanket over their hand or they'd block in the view of their face... you don't see that anymore because they cuff them! Yeah well I think it went from that to uh the jacket over the handcuffs so he wouldn't have the embarrassment of seeing the handcuffs now just like shut up slave walk walk So of course we want to know if Bernard Henri Levy, if he thinks that he is guilty? It would not be... Wait a minute. I thought this was Lebow you were playing from the Hogan's Heroes

30:19 I gotta work on everything. It's position of negotiating the international loan agreements that need to be consummated? One thing i'm sure of is that if Dominique Roscan had to go out of IMF, it would not be good for the world economy and it will...it would not be good for balance of powers and the check and balances all over the world. Final question Bernard, this is great do you believe do you put any credence in the theories that this was perhaps a setup orchestrated by the party of President Sarkozy? So no so that is

31:02 That's the cover-up, right? This is set up for the French elections. I haven't seen any mainstream media talk about the actual power that the IMF wields and all these loans they hand out to everybody and how powerful this guy was in that regard so of course this is crazy Of course not. This is really plot theory, conspiracy theory... It is conspiracy theory and let me tell you what conspiracy theory is When people are destabilized where they are shocked by an event which they do not understand They try to find a plot because it is comfortable to have a plot Yes thank you for explaining my problem He said its comfortable

31:50 Yeah, it's just a coincidence. And now I feel very comfortable! I was so shocked that a douchebag would put his penis against a girl's mouth... I was shocked! I need a plot! I need a conspiracy! Shut up douche bag! Anyway so we'll see what happens but it is good times for sure Good times. Well not for this guy. Well no, and actually I have to say that when i look at his face and feel kinda bad for him. I look at him like he's like, I got screwed. Friggin' Retsum. He got screwed! The problem is that he had this reputation which preceded him which doesn't help. But not of rape?

32:32 Well, no that's not true. I mean one reporter was supposedly attacked and there was another woman in 2002 that was supposedly attacked and it is quite possible he is a serial rapist. At least that's the meme they put in there that I picked up on. Okay you got it, serial rapist Sure, let's go with that. Okay I say look for the Egyptian guy to become the new leader of the IMF Yeah, I'm not buying that...I don't even know why that so off-the-wall it's it's not gonna happen When I am shocked and need a conspiracy theory and plot I say is Egyptian going to run IMF? No Well then let me hit you something really off the wall

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

International Criminal Court Allegations of Viagra-Fueled Rape in Libya

The International Criminal Court (ICC) is investigating allegations that Muammar Gaddafi's forces were distributed Viagra to facilitate systematic rape as a weapon of war. Wolf Blitzer and Nick Robertson report on the claims, which the hosts dismiss as war propaganda. They question the logic of finding condoms and Viagra in military bases as evidence of state-sponsored mass rape.

muammar gaddafi· international criminal court· viagra· wolf blitzer· libya· war crimes

33:13 Do you remember that crazy story that Hillary Clinton was talking about, that Gaddafi's forces were taking Viagra to stay with the rape meme? And of course they needed that to be able to rape all the women in Libya. Remember that crazy story? I love that story. Well guess what? It is now true, then there's now the basis for the arrest warrant of Gaddafi from the International Criminal Court yes! What for distributing pharmaceuticals without a license as a pharmacist listen to this story my brother Nick Robertson and Nick you had a chance with the chief this is Wolf Blitzer and Wolf Blitzer but wolf can hardly contain his laugh he thinks it's funny even prosecutor of the international crime

34:00 International criminal court the guys that prosecute you know like the huge war international criminal court is this is it? This is the problem with this operation. This is the next thing You know they're gonna be given the international criminal court will be bringing you in for jaywalking Oh, yeah No we got no no It'll be for being belligerent But that's a different story later on now this is for using your penis as a weapon of mass destruction listen court uh... the the issue being qaddafi the libyans what they're doing one of the twenty tell you this is the gap by the way we're gonna hear that actual guys saying it well one other things he wants to investigate now he says his priorities to investigate allegations of rape rate than maybe systematic and raven's being assisted he said by distribution all

34:43 viagra or viagra-like products, sexually performance enhancing products that are getting in the hands of Gaddafi's forces and are being used as part of gang rape. And these allegations that are surfacing that he says he wants to investigate is a priority. So do they have evidence that Libyan military on a systematic basis... Wolf can't believe it himself. He's like, what? Do you have evidence of this? We're handing out Viagra to troops to go out and rape women as an act of war John! This is great come on man your penis is a weapon of mass destruction using viagra is an act of war

35:26 Well this is his concern and the information that he's getting is coming from a number of sources but one of those sources are the rebels who say when they went into military bases to get Gaddafi weapons, they found supplies of what they call Viagra and condoms. And their putting this together with what they say is systematic uh... sort of disappearance of women when they're being stopped at Qaddafi's checkpoints, taken into military barracks, gang raped in there and they believe these drugs are being used. This is what he told me when I asked him about it." So if you thought it was crazy to hear this- It's a crock of crap yeah? But now the actual guy! The actual head of the International Criminal Court is going to say this! There are rapes. The issue is who organized them Do you believe its institutional

36:19 They were committed in some police barracks where the policemen prosecuted what happened they have information, there's some information about Viagra so It is like a machete. Viagras is... Their penises are being used as machetes is what he's saying because of the viagra We've gone nuts! I can't believe this is actually a real court! Well it was not of course Well this is one of the reasons we don't subscribe to this court as a country. Yeah, because you know that mean once in awhile we think it's great that they go after some guy that we don't like but This is the kind of you know when your... It's just typical any new agency anything that crops up they find things to do beyond their pale so

37:09 I mean, this is unbelievable. They don't have any evidence of any of this. Some guy reported that he saw... For all he knows you can tell the difference between Viagra and an Aleve. It's a blue pill right? By the way, he said Viagra or Viagra-like products because they want to leave it open for their pharmaceutical ads. Yeah if you're a soldier probably taking a lot of Aleves and Ibuprofen let's face it, you're going be bumped around a lot And then what's the point in condoms if your rapist? That doesn't make sense! I mean the whole idea of taking Viagra to rape someone is like... You're not much of a rapist. Really good job!

37:47 I'm sorry. You know, rape is horrible. Go on, take it kid! I don't feel like raping the woman. Take the pill. Take it and get on! And you know what? I don't want to make light of rape but this actually does... It's disgusting for actual rape victims to have this news propagated by these douchebags including the head of the International Criminal Court give me a break The guy's a fool Well, they sure all know how Viagra works don't they? I guess. Have you ever taken Viagra? Nope! Don't need it! I'm afraid of it. Well, I know people have taken it and they swear by because apparently you can have sex

CHAPTER 10 / 36 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and Knighting Ceremony

The hosts thank major donors and producers for their financial support of the show. James Brewis is thanked for his contribution from Jakarta, and James Sutton is acknowledged for a $521 donation. Several listeners are knighted or granted executive producer status, including Tom Wachinsky and Michael Miller, as the hosts joke about the world ending before the next episode.

james brewis· james sutton· nikola kress· tom wachinsky· knighthood· donations

38:36 two or three times in a row and you're like right bang bang bang kind of thing. And what causes high blood pressure? Listen to all the, you know the blindness people have heart attacks or blow out their eyeballs I mean it's like all these drug commercials that we play yeah uh you know there's just like this sounds like another one of these drugs you don't want to take! I mean i and by the way after I have sex As well you should. I was like, that was great honey. Actually... Never mind never mind. Yes let's thank some people for helping our program here yeah we do have some producers this show and we should of course because this will be the last show i guess we ever do might as well might as well get it all in on saturday the world comes to an end yep we're gonna go... Gone to Lagoon! Some religious crackpots

39:35 who believe that the world's gonna come to an end. We did get our $521 donor, which is James Sutton in Arlington Massachusetts but first let's thank James Brewis who will be a executive producer from Jakarta And he's a big fan of Jakarta. He says I am full of crap regarding Kuala Lumpur being a party town, he says Jakart is where the action is anyway. He was called out as a douchebag during last week's discussion on Kretec cigarettes so I continue... So I continue the credit me theme by contributing some of the profits. I made from buying and selling shares in Indonesia's largest credit producer HM Sam Perna ticker HMSB for all you stock watchers It's now owned by Philip Morris is performing so well blowing out smoke and cash coming out of its ears every other orifice Never should have sold indirectly my contribution was thanks to a tip from a longtime gitmo nation cloves cigarettes money manager

40:35 This is ridiculous. Roland Haas who is too busy managing other people's money to listen to the show but does have fond memories of Adam on the radio from his youth growing up in Gitmo Nation lowlands Huh, well that's cool. Small world! Yeah very small world So a shot of karma to Roland for the continued performance of his funds at HB Capital brother For his new baby Andrew and karma to my beautiful blonde wife who needed double karma Back home in Gitmo Nation Dolph Lundgren Who is being sued by a buncha builders plumbers and electricians for non-payment of services rendered Don't know exactly what she has been getting up too in my absence but it's expensive Okay here comes some Karma for y'all You've got... Karma

41:19 and that goes out to everybody there. And he's now a knight, he donated $1,000 to this show to apparently plug his pal James Sutton like I said, Arlington Massachusetts nuts in 521 dollars Nikola Kress Clarkson Western Australia poor sods I feel sorry for you guys working your ass off giving us a your take on the news always give me value for money of which you don't get enough but he might as well send me some karma again and called Julia Gillard our valued PM a douchebag almost defying to the co2 tax

41:57 scam, costing the average Aussie household another $300 yearly. Nice! Beginning next year in July or so... No that's not news but it still angers me and I have to pay up again. I'd rather give it to you guys so give us 333-333 And by the way the GPS shoes for Alzheimer sufferers all I can say is boot to the head Yeah let me just hand him his karma as requested You've got karma He's also an executive producer then right? Yeah, he'll be an executive producer. He's in that 333 then Tom Wachinsky and Wilkins West Virginia John Western Virginia listener I have a Western Virginia. I went to school in West Virginia There you go have a West Virginia hoodie

42:41 currently dealing with the IRS. Go Mountaineers! Sorry $70,000 so I could use some karma holy moly this is not good my friend you've got karma but please don't mention my name yeah well you know if i guess if i read this first and somebody was doing their job on the spreadsheet this wouldn't be an issue Craig Porter Chesapeake Virginia 22222 hi John and Amsterdam, I started listening to the show about a month ago and it's great you guys have opened my eyes to how the man is trying to make me a slave. And how i can change that? I'd like to send some karma to my friend Tommy Weiss he's getting out of the navy soon! I want to wish him luck thanks and keep up with the great work

43:22 You've got karma. Also an exec, right? I associate executive producer for Craig Porter and then Michael Miller in Tiburon this rounds out as knighthood 200 bucks at least that's got that going for me before the world ends which is good we will night him before the world comes to an end on Saturday Wouldn't it be like really messed up if the world did end and we really and you and I'd be like well crap What happened our show? That's not okay. Yeah, we didn't get to try really I'm worried sick wrong Well, we really appreciate that support and a couple of PR mentions. Great little domain name forward going to Dvorak.org slash NA noagendabank dot com and there's some big plans for that as well looks like Some folks are working on an SMS donation system for us John a worldwide text messaging donation system Well, that would be cool Yeah No That's what mr Oil is leading that as usual you know he's in all that dirty finance

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Infrastructure, SMS Donations, and Domain Forwards

Adam Curry discusses the development of a worldwide SMS donation system for the show and mentions several new domain name forwards, such as noagendabank.com and strawberryjamdisease.com. Eric the Shill provides an update on the production and shipping of No Agenda knight rings, which are expected to reach donors by June 10.

micropayments· icann· domain names· eric the shill· strawberry jam disease· no agenda bank

44:28 So yeah, he said to you know he sent me all this data You know like oh This is what the networks take and my eyes like glazed over should I do it? Like yeah whatever go so one penny is good enough. So you can literally just like text message It's pretty cool right yeah if it works Yeah Something that we could find all kinds of uses for oh, yeah Let's see. By the way, there has not been a micropayment system that really works. That is a real problem. Well this will work but the networks do take more than PayPal I presume from the donation. But you know if it is something we can then see if it works and I appreciate all of the help that we can get.

45:11 Couple of the domain name forwards fraud stars calm now forwarding to know agenda show calm also Obama bin Laden is dead calm we are gonna we're gonna get two to the head one of these days and Mark Hanus Is right up there with our friend from Gitmo nation credit? And he registered a domain name for us which is now foreign to no agenda show.com Kuala Lumpur sucks calm I think it's cool then we have strawberry jam disease dot com

45:47 As you know, Adam and John's strawberry jam disease refers to the condition that afflicts so many of our friends and neighbors. Sufferers can be recognized by their willingness to believe anything they hear on TV or read on the interwebs." So that makes sense if that is now being forwarded as noagendershow.com Quick note from Eric The Shill I just want this is internal memo Rings are shipping on to him on the 20th So he should receive them by the end of the month and night rings will go out a few days later Bottom line rings will be en route to the Knights by the 10th of June. But, of course that's only if the world doesn't end on Saturday Another forward domain name, shitdisturber.com and shittdisturber.com slash donate Following on Bill Clinton's idea to bring in a Ministry of Truth and a credibility bar, credibilitybar.com is now registered and forwarding to noagendershow.com GitmoNationSlave.com is now forwarding along with lonewolfterrorist.com And officialcensorship.com

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Tour Planning and Meetup Logistics

Plans for the "Hot Pockets Across Gitmo Nation" tour are discussed, with Mickey Hoogendijk managing invitations for local meetups. The hosts clarify they are looking for casual dinner hangouts rather than large auditorium events. They also mention the search for a reliable RV for the tour and promote the No Agenda Nation backup site and store.

no agenda nation tour· hot pockets· mickey hoogendijk· rv· meetups· gitmo slave

46:49 We need to put a consolidated list together. We really do, and I'm afraid of that because it's like a lot of work Well...I have it all! I think I have it all but uh.. I'll work on it Okay couple other quick things Saturday we have the Gitmo Slave end-of-days streaming extravaganza starting at 10 o'clock AM Pacific Standard Time, Gitmo Nation West time Gitmo Slave rolling out all the tunes live as our end-of-days party So we can have one more big bang on the stream before we all leave. My personal shout out to Ted C Howard, who has been working very hard with a lot of the back end stuff on The No Agenda News Network which is looking better every single day Of course you can get to the show notes now by giving the episode number dot N A show notes dot com so for today will be 305 dot NA show notes dot com and Miss Mickey wants to thank everybody who's been sending us great invitations

47:43 For great stuff on the no agenda nation tour the hot pockets across gitmo nation Which will kick off somewhere mid-july and you can email her Mickey at curry calm She doesn't she didn't want to point out to you know We're not necessarily looking for places where John can be flown in for a live show And that's mainly because she doesn't want any grumpy men on the road. Well do what she going out with you I Also, you know it may be appropriate to do a meetup here or there but lots of people are like yeah we'll get an auditorium. We'll do a big meetup. I think we're just kind of looking for some dinner and stuff you know? And just the kinda like hang out if there's something that makes sense of course do that thank you darling. Yeah fat burger! Fat burger in-n-out burger

48:33 So keep emailing her though, and we still do not have an official RV a couple of A couple of options here and there, but we're still looking for something that can kind of guaranteed get up the hill won't fall apart. That isn't a family heirloom anything We've had a couple of those well that goes off pike speak And but we really appreciate the help and of course to our executive producers for today's program James Brewis James Sutton Nicola Kress Tom now we weren't supposed to mention his name Tom and Our associate bill Billy. Yes, what's it? What is he calling himself random Hillbilly we have random You know if you're in West Virginia And you go driving around aimlessly and stop and pull over you'll have a bullet fly past your head very often in the haulers That's bullcrap hmm I went to school in West Virginia this bull crying didn't go driving around you always stuck around drive him around plenty Plenty no well I'm surprised you made it at our style three months after before I left

49:37 And our associate executive producers Craig Porter and Michael Miller, everyone else knows how to support the show of course. And even if you're just at home and you're a boner not a donor there's one thing can always do which is propagate our formula! Our formula is this... We go out we hit people in the mouth. Alright say it loud and proud if you can And also go to no agenda nation.com as your backup site and it also is a store there in this very email me I think was sir George from Gilman Asian lowlands He was trying to buy shirt, and he for some reason you couldn't you couldn't check out or something Oh well You better just send an email to Eric the shill hello everybody Hello Memphis. I've been working on it

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

Donald Trump Presidential Run Prediction Retrospective

The hosts revisit their conflicting predictions regarding Donald Trump's potential 2012 presidential run. John Dvorak notes that he correctly predicted Trump would not run, while Adam Curry admits his prediction changed following the killing of Osama bin Laden, which shifted the political and media landscape.

donald trump· barack obama· osama bin laden· 2012 election· predictions

50:32 Yeah, you see you got the one thing. Well he's changed but listen I can do it along with him like Hello everybody! Hello everybody! Listen listen listen... Hello! Hello! I can do it. Hello everybody how are ya doing? How are you? Good to see you guys. Good to see you guys. Hello hello hello hello hello hello everybody so ha ha hello. How is everyone doing? See I can do it when I hear him but past that it gets hard Well, yeah. That's why no there hasn't been a comic I mean comics are dying trying to get this guy down even though he is very distinctive and it drives a lot of mimics crazy So if i really get it I could be on Saturday Night Live perhaps In blackface? Hello everybody! Yeah...yeah we'll work on that So there are couple things going in national politics that I wanted to talk about Sure Mainly the republicans or like

51:33 I don't know what they're up to but for one thing there's a lot of stories about Newt Gingrich and... Who cares about Newt Gingrich? Well the thing is, if you look back on before he announced for presidency. I think somebody out there who listens to our show likes to follow this stuff should start looking at his finances because it was a big stink about how new turned on the party and he's never gonna get nomination all yet he is going to collect public funding I think there is a scam afoot to run for office not seriously and I think Trump was playing, toying with this idea until his ego got in the way and it turned out that when he had to do these disclosures they weren't going to be making him look very good. Can i just stop you there for a second about Trump because of course I predicted that he would run and then you predicted he would not...I would have rescinded my prediction we didn't get to it but after Obama...I did it

52:31 after the Osama bin Laden killing, ha! Yeah I know. The first time actually so after the Osama bin Laden killing if it had come up...I don't think it came up.. I would have said there's no way because that changed everything and the whole media landscape everything changed and finances or not I still think he was actually serious about it yeah well you could this is interesting in hindsight you'd say that but I never thought he was No, I was wrong but it doesn't matter that i can still have hindsight whether i was wrong or not. Not trying to cover anything up Okay, I'm just saying... It was on April 21st by the way when you made that commentary Boy he... John wrote down one thing everybody Hello everybody! I write down every prediction. I got this one here May 19th predicts Egypt guy will take IMF spot I write this..I get this red book of predictions and I've been doing this for some time over a year

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

Rick Santorum and the Google Search Definition

The hosts discuss Rick Santorum's presidential candidacy and the "Google bomb" that redefined his last name as a byproduct of anal sex. They suggest that the media keeps bringing up Santorum's name specifically to drive traffic to this derogatory search result, a campaign originally started by columnist Dan Savage.

rick santorum· google juice· dan savage· 2012 election· spreading santorum

53:25 And so I just flip through and highlight them with a highlighter. So if i'm looking for one, I just flip through till see highlighting. What color is your highlighter? Well the one for the IMF is orange but normally use yellow. Oh! I can't find my yellow one. So where was I... oh yeah anyways that I think they always thought Gingrich's didn't he doesn't want to run seriously but the other ones are going after Rick Santorum everybody's going after Rick Santorum Who is this guy no one cares about him either No, but everybody I don't. I never thought he was a candidate But they're left for some reason is scared of him or so I don't know what the problem is but they keep bringing him up They're the ones who bring them up, but they keep bringing him up for one sole purpose which is to get you to Google him Oh That's why oh so he gets Google juice

54:12 He gets a good well they have him fit. It's rigged because in Google if you type in Rick Santorum, you get this definition for something called Santorum That was some radio guy did that isn't it? Yeah what number one on the google hit list and it keeps showing up as number one so these Okay, Santorum do I read this You're, yeah go ahead. The frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex to Senator Rick Santorum That really sucks

54:49 So this so spreading Santorum calm, so I've got splurge I've got two clips where they were they who I think is a very douchebag II thing to do But I want to play them both and I'm gonna explain him both They're short but play the Tomahawk me first of all what they've done is I find this interesting Is the left? And actually the Republicans too and I only reason I'm playing this is because i don't care about Santorum, and I don't think he has a prayer. He doesn't even look presidential. I don't even know why he's running. I think just maybe to scam some of that public money and then pass it out to your friends Believe me. I think there's a total scam going on with some of these candidates but they've decided

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

Media Manipulation of Rick Santorum's Torture Comments

Tom Hartmann and Rachel Maddow are criticized for allegedly misquoting Rick Santorum regarding John McCain and "enhanced interrogation." The hosts argue that the media intentionally interchanges the terms "torture" and "enhanced interrogation" to frame Santorum's comments unfairly while simultaneously promoting the derogatory "frothy mix" Google search definition.

rick santorum· john mccain· tom hartmann· rachel maddow· enhanced interrogation· torture

55:35 kind of derail this guy by making him get into a fake kinda feud with McCain. Supposedly Santorum says, McCain doesn't know about torture I do! Yeah yeah but it's bull crap because he never even uses the word torture and Tom Hartman actually blows this up. Thumb? It's thumb. Waterbomb simply don't work. Santorum responded that McCain doesn't understand how enhanced interrogation works. Now stop stop stop Now, you play that he doesn't understand how enhanced interrogation versus what he says some casual comment. Everybody on the left and I'm going to play Hartman and then that idiot Rachel they rewrite the quote and change enhanced interrogation to torture

56:22 And Hartman is one, or I'm sorry Santorum's one of these guys that doesn't believe waterboarding is torture and that all this was about but watch the way he just twists the quote and then re-quotes him with something he didn't say and then slips the Google thing in. Right! The guy who has actually been tortured doesn't know how torture works but Santorum who has been a career politician knows everything about torture Santorum is also the guy who still insists we found WMDs in Iraq. I think we found a new campaign platform for Santorum Vote Santorum! He's a frothy mix of lies and nonsense Oh man, oh no he didn't say frothy did he? Yep and then he said don't google him Oh my god Is that a douchebag? What a horrible douche Thumb

57:08 So to make it worse, Rachel Maddow takes the exact same tact and I'll just play this short little clip. She actually expects... she uses that she interchanges torture with enhanced interrogation too and she just makes up a quote and then goes on and on but this goes on for a long time now only have very short clip because i want to explain what's really going on here play that Rachel Maddow thing. Fully expecting to be directed to what must have been his apology for saying that John McCain doesn't understand torture the way he does, the way Rick Santorum does. We called his campaign fully expecting it to be faxed right over we have not heard back from Mr. Santorum's campaign but as far as we can tell there has as yet been no apology again for Rick Santorum saying that John McCain doesn't understand torture Rick Santorum has not apologized for that

58:01 The beginning of this clip she says you have to Google him to look for the apology and the apology never showed up. And on the screen behind her there is the Google screen with Rick Santorum typed into the google box And then she goes and she brings another guy on, some investigative reporter. And then they're showing a clip of Rick Santorum in the left box he's in the right box and under Santorum is a Google search box with Rick Santorum typed in. Would somebody please register frothymix dot com? It just sounds nice doesn't it? I mean it's like these people are disgusting! They have...I can't believe you watch this crap

58:43 It's unbelievable to me that they have no guile whatsoever. They have no... it is unethical, it's disgusting, it just making fun of... oh! It's like a bunch of little kids making fun of this quote that keeps showing up the Sanctorum thing. Well, it's funny. A frothy mix. It is funny but how does this qualify as great news coverage or anything? It's like juvenile funny Yeah You know, and these people would pride themselves as being some sort of analyst or whatever. Believe me it just got... I just thought it was beneath the...I don't like Santorum at all but I just thought this was ludicrous So you said something interesting that there's a scam so if we register as candidates can then get public money? Is that the way it works?

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

Public Financing Scams and Gabrielle Giffords Recovery

The hosts discuss the potential for candidates like Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum to scam the public election financing system for millions of dollars. The conversation shifts to Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords' recovery from a shooting, specifically mentioning a chip implanted in her skull to measure brain pressure, which the hosts speculate on as a future political narrative.

public funding· election reform· gabrielle giffords· brain chip· campaign finance

59:32 I don't know what you have to have it some that's so you don't just get public money by signing up. Oh well, we'll have to have a certain number of people You know that you have to have something we got a certain number of people how many we need fill out? You need a team of people We got a team of people look at my God if you would like to fill out government paperwork Okay, well whoops We're going strong for a moment there. I don't know what you have to do to get the money, but i'm totally convinced that people are running for these offices and claiming to be... And I don't know when the money kicks in but I think you have to get yourself past a certain point and then all of a sudden you get public financing by the millions. Right. You know hundreds of dollars. Hundreds of millions! I think it's like something like 100 million dollars per president or more

1:00:17 And imagine how awesome that would be and then you get even obviously not supposed to spend it But you know what these guys do they got the private jets. They got their buddies Like I'm running in a Adam How much do you want for that ad that you I want you to run for me, and you say well? I need a million dollars perfect just it's a scam no this is perfect oh I want to be a part of it. If it's illegal scam, we should try it out! Someone has got to figure this out for us Well, this is a legal scam. There was no way that these guys aren't bilking the tax. This is why by the way another reason why public funding and election reform and all the rest of it won't fly because this is as corrupt as soft money ever was I mean its ridiculous and nobody ever brings this up Why did you pay so much money to that advertising agency for that ad that you ran? It was worth it! In Omaha?! It was worth it

1:01:16 It was worth it. Value for value. How many kickbacks are going on? Curry-Dvorak 2012! Dude, can you imagine and then we'd actually kick back money to every single one of our donors Yeah, we could kick back some money. Let's announce it right up front that we're gonna just take the money and scam it out to us! I'm telling you, I'm convinced that Gingrich, Santorum all these characters who have no chance in hell of ever becoming nominated let alone elected maybe have to get the nomination from the party to get the money? I don't know where the money kicks in but it does kick in. I just want to show you... Wait, wait. The other thing is before you get the government money You're getting all these donations from people and yeah And we have that! We've got the donations. These are tax-free donations that go into the fund for... Why are so inscute first of all?

1:02:10 If you had to do no work and we just got a hundred million and we could spend it on our friends, why would you even complain? You're like being so negative. No because I don't... It's not as simple as you make it sound like is sign up and here's a check kid for 100 million dollars! Of course not but we get a lot of smart people here. I want to show you how smart our people are. You got a web browser there Type in frothy mix calm already. They already came in It's already up and rocking baby Hey, hold on a second I got an Indian morning for everybody listening live on the street you guys kick ass We could we could beat anyone's ass John easily You know Mickey said something interesting

1:02:54 We were watching the neurosurgeon talk about Congresswoman Giffords and you know, they had to take a piece of her skull off and let her brain expand a little bit. And then they put a chip in it to measure something. Mickey wasn't even thinking about the chip part but she said next president of United States And I said, well it's probably too late. She can't run but wow what a setup huh? Yeah literally she could certainly run in four years uh she's cute she got kind of that Hillary hair look so she can be a part of that. She could possibly yeah right yeah she probably got some terrible brain damage from getting shot in the face. But you've got a chip now which is like all set up and ready to go. The chips in there now. We're good to go ah fantastic

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

Adam Curry Soap Opera Cameo and Acting Critique

Adam Curry plays a clip of a past cameo he made on a soap opera as part of an MTV publicity stunt. He describes the tedious process of waiting all day at Silvercup Studios for a single take. John Dvorak compares this to modern acting on shows like Castle, and they discuss the nature of "acting as oneself" in media.

adam curry· castle· soap opera· mtv· silvercup studios· bay area music awards

1:03:47 So, uh... if you want to change topics I do have one bad acting clip for the week. Really? I had one too! Do i just play this or does it need setup? Just play it no setup You don't know me Castle You think you do but you don't Is that bad acting or what? So this is, we are paying homage to the soap operas that are going away as now... That's actually from Castle. The primetime show. I have a clip for you John This is some excellent acting. I'm the D and well you know In your MTV ad on your Adam Kernel Well last time I looked at least

1:04:25 You guys always dress like this when you go to work? No, we have a wedding to go to actually. I'm sorry, I should've called but I'm just around the corner... Hey! Forget it, drop by anytime. So I'm hosting the Bay Area Music Awards and I think- I remember doing this And I remember thinking like, hosting the Bay Area Music Awards? They won't even let me host an MTV music award. They wouldn't give me a ticket to sit in the audience! VJs weren't allowed to go to the video music awards and here i am... Oh that's funny because I used to write for Dennis who put on the bay area music awards and always went to him when I saw that clip I said That's funny, I don't remember Adam ever hosting these awards Well it gets even better You know just drop by for a sec

1:05:08 Cool. I mean, we're not... We've been around for a little while but you know we're not exactly household word how do you even mean? Well first of all i read the papers and i read my mail That's right! Another funny thing, i read my mail Right! I wrote Adam A little while ago an obviously he'd read the mail Yeah were always looking for fresh talent Which is another like we are always looking for fresh talent The MTV was not looking for fresh talent they were looking for whoever the record companies made deal with us to play I'm not looking for fresh talent for anything. So why were you on this show lying? It would hurt, believe me! What was the genesis of you showing up on that soap opera as a cameo...as yourself? As part of the MTV publicity machine And I hated it. I remember I had to sit there at Silvercup Studios and took a whole day waiting. Yeah everything takes a whole day A whole day just waiting. It was one take but it was a whole day waiting just to do this scene

1:06:05 Well, I thought you did a great job. I think you were better actor than those two guys Yeah, but I was acting myself This is what most acting is yeah Don't tell Mickey don't tell her I have um I have the little segment that is new on the horizon and It's called Annoy John and I have a couple clips to annoy you with. Okay, yeah This is your friend this is your friend Vivek Kundra Oh please And he's being interviewed for the Economist like some

CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Vivek Kundra and the Federal Cloud Computing Strategy

U.S. Chief Information Officer Vivek Kundra is mocked for his use of buzzwords like "attack vector dashboards" and "real-time dashboards." The hosts critique his past projects in Washington D.C., such as putting sensors on snow plows, and his push to "disrupt the textbook space" by moving education toward the "app economy."

vivek kundra· cloud computing· snow plows· attack vectors· app economy· michelle rhee

1:06:44 session they had. This is the Chief Information Officer of the United States and I just want you to hear about some his great accomplishments. Well, think for example when now i was in the District of Columbia as a CTO there at the city level what we did is we decided say well why is it that every resident in the district doesn't have access to where snow plow is on a real-time basis So we literally installed sensors on snow plows so you could see where they were, but also you could see whether the plow was up or down. And we asked people to publicly vote or give us input on the most efficient routes in terms of whether their neighborhood was plowed or not. We were getting really good feedback in terms of where the demand was and what some of the issues were

1:07:35 So I think there's a did you actually respond but did you respond to that information? Absolutely. So what ended up happening is the Department of Transportation in DC they actually ended up redeploying some of the assets based on You know, the input where we're getting from the public and the Obama is that guy douchebag or watch he puts sensors on snow plows and actually could see if the snowplow was up or down I wonder how much that cost. And what good did it do? So here's a couple of buzzwords here that we need to incorporate into our show in this next clip. Let me answer the question with a question, which is... Let me answer the question with a question first off. It's a good one right? How come we all feel so comfortable when it comes to voice right?

1:08:23 So if we look at our voice networks, and one of the things that I usually push back on is somehow treating cloud again as this magical special thing. If you look at a government, we already have over 4,000 systems that are not government owned and operated. They're being operate by third parties Lockheed, Raytheon, Boeing, Deloitte, and so forth. I think what we need to be able to do is make sure within our current construct that as we move to the cloud, we'll create an environment where we're becoming more secure. We're trusting and verifying in terms of what are the security measures? I think there's this false sense of security right now where people feel like they signed some type of document into certification and we are secure in this new world you're going to need to have real-time dashboards telling you what the attack vectors look like. You missed it!

1:09:14 A real-time dashboard. Yeah, what the attack vector looks like What's that mean? People feel like they signed some type of document into certification and we are secure. In this new world, you're going to need to have real-time dashboards telling you what the attack vectors look like and what we're doing in terms of security controls Yeah! We need attack vector dashboards What the heck is he talking about?! How does this guy stay in his position? Are you annoyed yet? I've been in, the guy's whole adenoidal style of talking through his nose is annoying enough. Well he has the final solution and he's full of crap! So here it is this is the answer to everything He's gonna tell us where we're going can you guess what it is?

1:10:05 Come on binary. Well, you know when I was in DC, I worked very closely with Michelle Rhee on looking at Some of the tough challenges we have in our public school system Especially at the intersection of technology So what do we have to do in our public school system? What do you think we should be doing with our kids add more computers No John You've not hip enough and driving innovations. And one of the big challenges you see, again using that tire and road analogy I would argue that our books in classrooms have pretty much been static. And one of the more interesting things we see is we're teaching outdated content We're talking about television in our physics classes as sort of a model for innovation What?

1:10:55 What physics class is teaching television as the model of innovation? It's outdated content, John. It's static. Bull crap! Wait but wait... And also what Secretary Duncan is doing with a race to the top where I'm very very involved in is thinking about how do we disrupt this sort of textbook space disrupt the textbook space? where all they focus on is iPhone apps to make sure that their focused on the next generation economy rather than just the past. That's right, we need to work on the app economy with our kids! The App Economy... My child in school gets it. The App Economy... What a clown. He cracks me up I watched the whole thing just to pull a couple clips just annoy you

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

White House Press Pool Restrictions and Media Punishment

The Obama administration is accused of punishing the media by banning a Boston Herald reporter from a fundraiser after the paper ran a Mitt Romney op-ed. Lou Dobbs reports on other instances of media restriction, including a San Francisco Chronicle reporter being banned for using a cell phone and a reporter being locked in a closet by Vice President Biden's staff.

barack obama· boston herald· lou dobbs· press pool· mitt romney· joe biden

1:12:02 But I like the dashboard for attack vectors. Oh yeah, a dashboard! A dashboard attack vectors... This is the guy who is moving us all to the cloud everybody this is the guy who's I'm sure I will accuse him as taking kickbacks he certainly took an award you know I think that award if you think about it I mean there I thought they were kind of sensitive about that that is essentially a bribe totally a bribe and you watch you'll be buying stuff from HP who gave it to him That guy's a total douche. So, um... Well as part of the Obama administration which has gone completely crazy about a couple of things I do have one thing since we're talking about this group and the fact that oh yeah i do have a little clip about him banning Boston Herald reporter from his visit to Boston Yeah this was kind of weird this ministry of truth move they made They wouldn't let- they only chose what was it? Reporters they felt would be fair

1:13:00 You have no idea that would kiss their ass. Well, but they said be fair to be invited to his DNC hello everybody donor event! Well here play the Obama thin-skinned about Boston Herald this is Lou Dobbs summarizing The White House press office refusing to give the Boston Herald access to the president's Boston fundraiser because a paper ran a Mitt Romney op ed on its front page the gall of those people The administration objected to their placement of the opinion piece on the front page and blasted the heralds saying, pool reporters are chosen based on whether or not they cover the news fairly. This isn't the first time that Obama administration has punished the media earlier this year a San Francisco Chronicle reporter banned from the press pool for filming this protest with her cell phone The White House argued that she was part of the print pool and therefore that means she could only have a pen and pad

1:13:55 No iPad, no iPhone. No phone and at another event earlier this year members of the vice president's staff locked an Orlando Sentinel reporter in the closet a lot of people thought that wasn't very nice How come they didn't call him on false imprisonment for that locking in the closet thing? Because the guy didn't press charges He just wrote about it, he just complained about it. I thought that this... and I don't think we even discussed on the show, I had in the show notes about the reporter who filmed with her cell phone saying oh no you were kicking out because your print only! You can use an app economy Yeah how's that jive with the app economy? It doesn't work Well speaking of the whole app economy The Obama administration, the one that we all voted in

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

International Strategy for Cyberspace and DNS Governance

The White House releases a fact sheet on its international strategy for cyberspace, asserting the right to use military force in response to hostile acts online. The hosts discuss the "harmonization" of cybercrime laws via the Budapest Convention and the ongoing struggle for control over the Domain Name System (DNS) between ICANN and the United Nations.

cyberspace strategy· budapest convention· icann· dns· united nations· cyber warfare

1:14:46 has released their international strategy cyberspace fact sheet for the cyber strategy, strategie. And this will be in the show notes at 305.nashownotes.com I've marked it up John! I've used a digital highlighter because i'm part of the app economy and I would just like to read these three relevant bits that I'd like your input on When warranted, the United States will respond to hostile acts in cyberspace as we would to any other threat to our country. We reserve the right to use all necessary means, diplomatic, informational, military and economic as appropriate and consistent with applicable international law in order to defend our nation, our allies, our partners and our interests. In doing so we will exhaust all options before military force whenever we can, we will carefully weigh the cost and risk of action against the cost of inaction, and will act in a way that reflects our values and strengths – our legitimacy seeking broad international support whenever."

1:15:47 So I think that means if you hack us we will bomb you. Isn't that kind of what it means? That's a message to China Oh is that what it is? Yeah, China... We're very suspicious about what China's up to on the internets so here something that uh... is probably not in your prediction book but which we caught months ago when Hillary Clinton said it under the heading law enforcement extending collaboration and rule of law Point two, the United States will harmonize... that's my favorite word. Harmonize cybercrime laws internationally by expanding accession to the Budapest Convention Now you'll recall the Budapest Convention which we if you were listening to show which we discussed in its entirety essentially says you can't like say anything nasty about anybody if you make somebody cry then your in violation of a law

1:16:44 Yes, it's the ultimate in politically correct. Under internet governance the United States will preserve global network security and stability including the domain name system so what does this mean now they're taking over the DNS system I know they're already like hijacking it but is the United States not actually saying we're taking over the domain name system? Well there's...we've actually always had it We've already taken it. But it's not a government thing, It's the ICANN. I don't know what is going on all I know that there's this big fear especially in ICANN that the UN will get hold of it. That would be even worse

1:17:27 they believe that the UN especially the technical people who are involved in trying to grab the DNS system are so incompetent that the whole network will fall apart in no time because they don't know what they're doing a and They're already trying to segment the net there's all these Technical issues every time I've talked about I can folks in their offices down south I Don't know maybe a couple times because they keep dragging me and just cuz it get they take a lot of writers They bring them in brainwash them so we try to get the word out that the UN is bad actors and they're gonna screw things up and, you know we should leave things the way they are because we're doing a good job. And I actually buy into their argument but i've never written about it in any extreme but I'm fairly familiar with what they're trying to accomplish

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

National Defense Authorization Act and the Belligerent Label

Section 1034 of the National Defense Authorization Bill is highlighted for potentially giving the President unchecked power to attack "belligerents" anywhere in the world, including U.S. citizens. The hosts discuss the broad definition of "belligerent" and how the term is beginning to appear in news stories regarding minor civil disobedience.

ndaa· section 1034· belligerent· war powers· civil liberties· national security

1:18:16 So another little thing while we're all being distracted by Arnold Schwarzenegger's love child and by DSK and the president's Arab Spring speech is this language that we discussed on the last show inserted into this war powers which was slipped into, it's a national defense authorization bill Section 1034. Right, so here's the little ditty that I didn't know about... The provision would purport to give the president unchecked power to attack unspecified countries organizations and people no matter in the world where they might be located

1:19:03 The military could even be used to go after Americans in America. The targets would not have to represent, not even represent a national security risk. The language calls them so-called belligerents if you are belligerent. That means you! Well and I looked it up right? So belligerent adjective hostile and aggressive bullnecked belligerent I'm like, yeah that is me and now the stories are starting to show up with belligerent in them. This woman who was in the quiet police car on the train and she was talking on her cell phone what do they call her now? Belligerent! So this it you know a lone wolf belligerent. I mean that's just crazy. I told you long ago that this show has limited life Well we've got to run for office We gotta get us some dough

CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

60 Minutes Profile on the Sovereign Citizen Movement

The hosts critique a 60 Minutes segment on "Sovereign Citizens," featuring expert J.J. McNab. The report links the movement to the Posse Comitatus, Terry Nichols, and Wesley Snipes. The hosts argue that the media is attempting to demonize the concept of individual sovereignty and link it to domestic terrorism and tax evasion.

60 minutes· sovereign citizens· j.j. mcnab· posse comitatus· wesley snipes· terry nichols

1:19:59 You can be belligerent that way, but this is crazy! And it's- and it- did you see 60 Minutes? About um... What are they calling it now. We went from lone wolves This of course was all under the security terror. Squirrel! This is um... Sovereign Citizens Oh yeah, you know I wanted to...I saw the end of it. I didn't watch the beginning so I missed the premise but this sovereign citizen movement is supposed to be huge and i actually wanted to turn into one topic on one of the shows Well, well you probably have followed it tell me what you know? Well what I know

1:20:40 Sovereign, the sovereign citizen. Apparently it's a movement that is not documented as such but they do have an expert on 60 Minutes who can tell us exactly what a sovereign citizen is now first of all the whole joke of this is we are sovereign citizens by definition are we not? By definition Americans or sovereign citizens. I think they want to eliminate that from the way we think about our Republic Turn us into a you know central at Central Government democracy. Well, they're on their way and this expert is great It's almost done as an ideal This expert that they have 160 minutes is awesome but first so the way they set it up is remember the father and son and they had to shoot out with the cops and Remember they were like

1:21:28 I can't, it was like a year ago or so. So they of course are the sovereign citizens and they get the father of one of the cops who was killed and he is now the sovereign citizen hunter. If Brandon Nebile had known these were sovereign citizens they would be with us today they didn't know. What is a sovereign citizen? Sovereign citizen in its simplest form believes that he is above the law. Okay, hold on one second... Believes that he's above the law? J.J. McNab has been studying sovereign citizens for decades She has testified before Congress and she is writing a book about the movement. She's writing a book about the movement! Coincidence?! He has a twisted sense of history and he thinks

1:22:07 People who lived in the 18th century were free of all legal constraints and they want to return to that time now. Jerry and Joe Cain were part of an anti-government movement whose roots date back to the racist Posse Comitatus in the 1970s Now, that's weird... Was there actually a group called Posse Comitatus in the 70s? You know I was around in the seventies Yeah, I don't remember anything maybe I was Wasted on speed balls. I don't know eight balls What's funny is so the the b-roll while they talk about these groups from the 70s is of course you know guys with assault rifles in You know any on the target range

1:22:51 in the Montana Freeman of the 90s. Do you remember the Montana Freeman of the nineties? No, do you remember the nineties? You remember the Montana Freeman? Of course I don't! It's bull crap! Convicted Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols was a sovereign citizen. Oh, I remember him That guy was bad. I don't remember him being a sovereign citizen during that whole melee all this stuff that was in the media...I don't remember that ever being brought up to you Nope. And tax filings by actor Wesley Snipes, convicted of tax evasion in 2008 include numerous examples of sovereign language This is... this one got me What does that mean? He uses the word God too many times?! This one got me They got Wesley Snipes as a sovereign citizen

1:23:37 you'd be a tax dodger yeah average sovereign citizen today is 30 okay well that count leaves us out. I mean i could say im thirty you know, i understand 35? keeps going up now just gotta get every single little bit in there and he's in economic dire straits oh! thats our show they probably lost their job Yeah, lost the job. They've probably lost the wife? Yep! Conspiracy theorists? Most are. Do you trust the government? I would argue that it's un-American to trust the government. Alfred Addix told us he has never advocated violence yet listen to what he said on his internet radio show So this is what got me... uh oh

1:24:31 Now they're pulling out the internet radio show. This is about time this is where we get our heads chopped off Because I can just see the 60-minute piece and of course you'll be no part of it You know, you won't even be I'll bail Adam Adam Curry did his own Internet Radio Show by himself For an audience, a small elite audience of sovereign citizens and he called the arms. We do not have the right to keep in their arms so we can go duck hunting. We have the right to keep our bare arms in order to shoot our own politicians. I think I've said that!

CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

Thomas Drake Whistleblowing Case and the Espionage Act

The criminal prosecution of NSA whistleblower Thomas Drake is examined. Drake is accused under the Espionage Act for exposing waste and mismanagement within the agency. The hosts highlight the Obama administration's harsh stance on whistleblowers and the "Orwellian" shift where reporting government illegality is treated as a crime against the state.

thomas drake· nsa· espionage act· whistleblowers· barack obama· the new yorker

1:28:35 Wait a minute. He was killed in a gunfight at the hill what he called the Hilltop Watchtower crackpot command center He held hostage there an actress named Mickey Hoogan and alias her real name was Mickey Hoogandyke Here's what she had to say as she discussed how she was brainwashed by Adam Curry Well if that you're actually joking about it, but it's a possibility So anyway I don't know about that laugh. So, if you're going to go in this direction... And I think people should look him up. It became a big, all of the sudden it got into the news this has been going on for awhile this guy Thomas Drake Oh yes! Wow he was the guy that was accused of selling nuclear secrets right? Well you know the whole thing is He didn't of course, he didn't these guys get in real world I didnt do anything but he made kind of an interesting error in judgment Yeah yeah he did Let's look at from let me just give you overview

1:29:36 he worked for the i guess with the nsa and so he found some waste in some mismanagement of funds and some probably some corruption and you will at any be right and anything to give me information to a journalist anne blew the whistle on the guys and then he also apparently it was investigated anyway that guys in big trouble i i'd buy anybody out there who listens are sure that works for intelligence agency i'm not recommending that you go Blowing the whistle on him. I just don't think it's a good policy No, you know let them fall apart on their own You know or let them do it in turn I don't know what you're gonna Do about it but play this clip because apparently they have wrapped laws around this guy to screw him including The whistle apparently if he gives testimony If is with any whistle blowing testimony to another agency that's a crime and they're turning his entire whistle-blowing

1:30:28 situation into redefining it as espionage which is now... this is the guy himself who gave a speech and has just clipped together a little bit and you know I think he pretty much tells the story. It's kind of funny To other would-be whistleblowers not only can you lose your job but also your very freedom The government made my cooperation with official investigations a criminal act It is now apparently a federal crime to report illegalities, malfeasance, fraud, waste and abuse perpetrated by our own government. The government is making whistleblowing a crime. They are making dissent a crime especially when it embarrasses the government and calls the government to account

1:31:17 What is the difference between my situation and that of a Chinese artist who was detained when trying to leave his country because Chinese authorities deemed him a threat to national security? The fact remains that the heart of my case rests directly on whistleblowing and First Amendment activities involving issues of significant, and even grave concern in terms of government illegalities, contract and program malfeasance as well as fraud waste and abuse protected by the Constitution, case law and statutes.

1:31:55 And yet the government is censoring and criminally prosecuting protected communications I made in furtherance of government investigations, and doing so under the Espionage Act. Espionage is the last thing my whistleblowing and First Amendment activities were all about This has become a specter of truly Orwellian world Where? whistleblowing has become espionage. Don't blow your whistle, John! And the other thing that's kind of interesting is that and the left wing doesn't know what to do about this but the Obama administration has been the hardest ever on whistleblowers they have clamped down on it as much as possible there if you're a whistleblower in during this era the Obama era you're gonna put yourself into a heap full of trouble

1:32:52 Espionage. Don't be blowing your whistle, boy! So just let the corruption happen and you know take care of itself Anyway, I find it was distressing but you people can go out there and look up to Thomas Drake. I guess It's in the show notes I have a whole and what blew it out of the water was a New Yorker article where they just went into it And you know, I'm sure that The New Yorker reporter is gonna get into trouble too. I mean this whistle we really have gotten to a Kind of a quasi fascist state. I mean the reporters from The Boston Herald can't go to a Boston event Whistleblowing is now espionage Nudity as porn Yeah. Heh heh heh... yeah

CHAPTER 25 / 36 Discussion

NPR's Andy Carvin and White House Social Media Collaboration

NPR's Andy Carvin is criticized for collaborating with the White House to facilitate a "worldwide conversation" on Twitter regarding the President's Middle East speech. The hosts label Carvin a "shill" for the administration, arguing that a supposedly independent journalist should not be crafting questions for a government event.

andy carvin· npr· white house· twitter· middle east· social media

1:33:34 I'm getting some nudity here this afternoon. You know, I am glad everybody is so happy with these people running things. Yeah! So what's the alternative? Ron Paul is running. I'll endorse him again and vote for him again. Well you know Ron Paul was the only solution he would be accepted by the left and right and everybody in the middle and most independents but both sides are all wink-wink nudge-nudge about marginalizing the guy We need to run John that's the only solution you and I need to run And you know why? Because it helps us. We get a hundred mil... You're not running for anything, but Ron Paul should Well he is I'll run if people someone will do the paperwork and i can get the 100 million I'll run Yeah and you can be my uh my axle rod Come on we'd be great! He said I was a great actor goodbye darling yeah yours better actor than Obama Hello everybody hey how are you doing hey and then you write the speeches for me I could read a prompter It would be great Can you imagine

1:34:35 What party would we call it? The crackpot party. It would be huge! I'd be handing out hundred dollar bills left and right. Oh yeah, that's the way to do it. Yeah like hey vote for me and just sign my name on a hundred dollar bill. We got...I got 100...I got a million of these. I got a million of these to hand out with a million votes guaranteed And by the way, before we get into thanking a couple of people who helped keep our show going I just wanted to make a little note of what your national treasure is doing this morning. Your national treasure of course is you know the completely unbiased media and this is a press release from The White House from whitehouse.gov came out this morning and it blew me away NPR's Andy Carvin at ACarvin on Twitter and foreign policies

1:35:29 Mark Lynch at a Broadvark Two experts who bring both a deep understanding of foreign policy and extensive online networks will facilitate a worldwide conversation that will include participants from the Middle East and North Africa. As Andy explains, rather than come up with all the questions ourselves we'd like to invite you to help us craft the questions if you're on Twitter and want to submit a question please post a tweet with your question M.E. Speech in the tweet! You can pose your question before or during the speech We won't be able to get every question of course, so we encourage everyone to follow the MESpeech hashtag and join the broader conversation about this speech on Twitter Andy Carvin you are a shill A complete shill Can you believe that?

1:36:28 It's ridiculous. This is, this is the problem and as is that his NPR and the media still gonna carry this guy like he's the hero of social media while he's working for The White House? That's crazy! It's ludicrous. It's great now it's not ludicrous its abhorrent there you go but remember everybody if you're not paying for... Everybody? Remember everybody if you're not paying for the product You are the product. So we do have a bunch of people to thank including Jason Southwell from Pompano Beach, Florida We have some nights today too that we're gonna have to yes and I catch up to $180 from him Robert slack in Queens Creek Arizona Looking for some karma because if his got a new girlfriend you want to give him a shot Absolutely

CHAPTER 26 / 36 Discussion

Listener Donations and Personal Karma Requests

A large segment of listener donations is read, with many contributors requesting "karma" for job searches, new businesses, or personal health. Notable mentions include Bruns Clothing in South Dakota and a "Minuteman" call to action for donations. The hosts acknowledge the diverse geographic reach of the audience from Denmark to Texas.

paypal· karma· bruns clothing· minuetmen· donations· Bakersfield

1:37:33 You've got karma. I mean, don't you need Viagra? 150 well he probably doesn't need it. 15210 from Robert Doug Holly Ottawa Ontario hi John and Adam is my donation for under $11 a little extra to cover the PayPal fee thank you so some a donor not a boner could i please get some karma for my new job search I'm not an employment but my current job sucks and I want to find something better thanks for what you do Here's to a better job my friend. You've got karma Excellent Corporation in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and Joe cool design $111 11 cents each Jeff Anderson 104 dollars and 20 cents is the double end of the world donation 50

1:38:15 to 10 times 2, I'd like some karma for my two fantastic sons Russell August and Dane Michael who coincidentally live down the hill from you Adam. Oh well that's very nice here's a throw it in there! You've got karma Rolling the Karma down the hill like its hot oil Bronze clothing in Watertown South Dakota listen to the podcast while at my day job hope to meet Adam on the Hot Pockets Across America tour Karma a camera request for my new business brunes clothing BRUNSclothing.com American made jackets, so that's cool maybe thought karma Eric Finken Finkenbeiner in Columbus Ohio new donor 51 10 double nickels on the dime figured I need to donate So Adam doesn't have to start working at McDonald's or something? I'd like it They'd like some karma got a lot of karma requests today since they recently started writing for bite and

1:39:07 Also, please call out Seth and Reed as douchebags. Since they've been listening longer than I have and haven't donated yet also don't tell my wife that i donate ok Eric Hey these are some pretty nice jackets from Bruns Clothing Yeah? yeah they're like you know if you're in the snow Other their heavy-duty things. Yeah, no weather here like your mother always told you the trick to staying warm is layering our jackets are cut large so you can wear them over a sweatshirt this nice This is real American jackets it's like real pioneering like Freeze your nuts off jackets nice give Eric a Karma shot karma shot You've got karma

1:39:54 Tom Busche writes in saying we don't want your summer to start so poorly, so I'm calling out all Minutemen to come to your aid with a double nickels and the dime donation which is what he did for Sunday show. Which we may not have a Sunday show, but go ahead I think you should donate double nickels on the dime Let's start to know a generation was what the minute men can do. I'll kick it off with 5510 for Thursday Show good luck minutemen also vector research Langley British Columbia mm-hmm double niggles on the dime Turk al Borg in these are all new new donors by their new donors and I really appreciate these guys Augustin burr Borg Augustin Borg Denmark

1:40:32 Grease greeting from gitmo nation crippled welfare state Denmark you guys should really be listed as a 501c for the valuable mental public service show your mental public service to show provides for all the indoctrinated slaves of the world speaking of shackles if we weren't but okay I really need some karma for my job application so I can escape the iron grip of unemployment also could you give my buddy Lars Well my, uh... I think it's green liquor. Green liquor? DOOSHBAG! Dooshbag call for always using the lame excuse of so-called impending exams not to join mandatory weekend binge drinking Yeah really yeah you should be on the binge drink let's give you some karma for the binge drink in there that's good You've got karma So i'm told they do a lot of binge drinking in Holland

1:41:22 No, no. England. Gitmo Nation East that's where the real binge drinking is. 5210 from Greg Van Molen in Bakersfield Jan Persiel in Hamburg Deutschland 5210 Dear John Ed Karma for my office search from EP285 worked perfectly! Yay! I'll move it on July 1st and just incase the world comes to an end before then here's my 5110 PR move no agenda templates dot com in the making and currently forwarding to the show give yourself some karma. Okay, well thank you we'll take that. You've got karma. Jesse Cruz in Highland Park joins the End of Days Club he needs some Karma for his friend Kelly Cronin and her job search... You've got Karma Wow this is like Karma Day. It is! Rodney Staben Houston Texas

1:42:13 He pronounced it Houston not houston. Well, of course is not housed in and peril and not purland Don't come over there Adam take some of this and get some syrup for pancakes on Sunday morning Everything goes better with pancakes and that should include the rapture what? The hell, give me some karma too because I'll need it for the rapture apparently. Okay yeah we'll all need some of it. You've got karma Sir Jeffrey Gerlach at Alamo is not ashamed to be a no agenda show producer deconstructions must happen sir jeffrey bradley serbu naples florida cory pingal in new lexington ohio at george vanderhorst our black knight

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No Agenda Knighting Ceremony and Subscription Issues

The hosts perform a formal knighting ceremony for Sir James Brewis, Sir James Sutton, Sir Michael Miller, and Black Knight Sir Larry Corpy. They address technical issues with PayPal subscriptions and mention that director Joss Whedon reportedly referenced the show on Twitter. The segment emphasizes the "value-for-value" model of the podcast.

knighthood· paypal· joss whedon· black knight· larry corpy· james brewis

1:42:51 uh... all gave fifty george gave fifty twice yeah one of the world at once for a on three actually be a dame soon that's being credited towards her uh... hurricane right now that you know what the one decent pictures of but it's going to miss novello No, we get the point. Novoa London UK making a donation for one simple reason because you guys have changed the way I think and the way i look at news and information in general maybe we should just be called The Real News Party he comes from London but is actually in Santiago de Compostela Spain

1:43:33 So, and Jim, Jason Dozier $50 from Kansas City. Tristan Pippo Seattle Washington long time listener figured it'd be cool to get a birthday shout out my birthday's the 20th which is the day before the end of the world. Last name sounds like peepo. Thanks for your good work and we want to thank everybody who donated less than the $50 call out amount, and all the people who subscribed... And by the way, we've had a number of people getting kicked off their subscriptions! Yeah. One mail we got says that PayPal said that WE kicked them off, which is a lie because we don't do that And so we check your subscriptions and some people have upgraded to $11.11 subscription which is, we appreciate a lot! We do. So thank you so much for the support I was expecting actually a much bigger rush since were all going to be gone and won't be here for Sunday but should we show up that you can still make amends?

1:44:28 And the place to do that is devorak.org slash N A and also definitely check out noagendanation.com you can find a good donation link there and or any of the multitude of forwards Remember if you're not paying for the product, you are the product I'm not so on The No Agenda Show about a couple of people up here at the shack in actually You know what? You know who I heard was listening to our show I wanted to write this down. Who's the guy that wrote all of Buffy the Vampire Slayer?

1:45:06 stuff Oh Josh yeah, Josh. Yes. Yeah, Joss Whedon Yeah He threw an in the morning on his Twitter the other day oh he just put that in no He said no agenda at they said Noah jet had no agenda in the morning I really admire that guy you know he's the only non breakout director who just I don't know what why he's? He's got to have a break out because he did that firefly stuff and the guy is awesome huge fail let's just give him a little bit of karma just because You've got karma we think he actually loves our show But I know there's a lot of people coming up, you know interviewing them authors and they've heard of us Yeah, yeah. Yeah hurt to you guys good don't quite understand what you're talking about but Crazy

1:45:54 Not on the list, but I want to wish Eric the shill a happy belated birthday. I believe he celebrated yesterday Happy birthday to Jeffrey Pacito son Matthew Francesco Christopher turned three on May 13 and another one of our donors this morning Tristan people Uh, his birthday is on May the 20th. That'll be tomorrow so you can have one day of fun my friend before we all... drive up and blow away! You gotta use that more often. Drive up- why don't you drive up and blow away? It's important

1:46:35 Okay, you got I gotta have a shot. I need two hands to get this one out So I hear James Bruce Jane Sutton Michael Miller step forward along with the man in black Larry Corpy who will be a Black Knight all four of you have successfully achieved The status of knighthood of the no agenda roundtable by donations of up to $1,000 supporting this show I hereby pronounce thee sir James Brewis Sir James Sutton sir Michael Millen and sir Larry Corpy black night all nights of the Noah gender Roundtable Please enjoy all of these festivities while you can and should we live past Saturday? Then your night rings will be on the way

1:47:23 sometime in the next four weeks. So that's all great news and we really appreciate our Knights yes this is taking so long that I'm mistrusting these Chinese vendors well I trust Eric as far yeah but then right now I trust Eric we work very hard at assassinating the media for you pulling apart stuff, researching watching incredibly boring crap to get to those nuggets that will at least entertain you so that when it all passes by and the human resources and slaves around your buying it up and lapping it up. You can go I know better

CHAPTER 28 / 36 Discussion

Modern Marvels Producer and the No Agenda Credit Model

Adam Curry discusses a meeting with Don Cambou, producer of the History Channel show Modern Marvels. They compare the No Agenda producer credit system to the Hollywood model. The hosts also joke about the No Agenda knight rings appearing in future crime dramas like Law & Order as a way to identify "nights" of the show.

don cambou· modern marvels· hollywood· producer credits· knight rings· law & order

1:48:06 You know the thing that we do and I do appreciate people who keep the show going by because everybody's the producer out there And we we do this show for the listeners, and the listeners give us compensation when we do a good show we get better compensation than when we don't generally and It's a model that. We really appreciate That we appreciate the fact that it works with us and what we can't thank people enough to donating on a show-by-show basis and we hope that you understand that we do try to create a mindset that makes people more amenable to seeing the truth behind the stories or spotting bullcrap, or being able to watch regular news and see where the propaganda is in the news.

1:48:56 you know, dissect it yourself and benefit from that. And so we just really can't thank everybody enough. Yesterday I had Don Cambu up here he's written a book he's actually written a book for like 14 year old boys. Don Cambu is the producer of Modern Marvels? You know the show on... Yeah, it's a great show. He's been around for like nine years or whatever. I love that show! I mean i don't watch it, I don't have it on the DVR but when I see it always watching is always like something that's ridiculous right and it's like some giant earth mover that's got to wheel the size of my house yeah or some tunnel they're building that's unbelievable so this guy he has been in Hollywood for a long time and now he decided to write fiction book which actually pretty funny book

1:49:42 The Crystal Point and the Mog Pogs. It's a kind of like Harry Potter book for young boys. Cool, I actually was like three quarters of the way through it and I'm like wait a minute this is not for my age! Three quarters away? I know, that was science fiction. Like yeah it's kinda cool good story but wait a minute this is not meant for me But he's like, you know, you guys have a great model. And I told him about the producers, executive producers, that's exactly how we do it! The idea comes from Hollywood. Yes, exactly! Exactly I mean people who get their credits and these are real credits Yeah you can put it's official just like the knighthood It's a real knighthood it's not like fake or anything And when we get the ring then you can prove it better than a stupid ribbon You can't wear the ribbon every day right? You wear this ribbon is like douchebag what do you what does this piece of ribbon on your jacket? The Queen doesn't give out rings does she No no she gives out stupid ribbons

1:50:40 We can't wear the ribbon. Oh, it looks lame and with a ring It's like you know and you can hit someone in the mouth And it will it has the mirrored in the morning its reversed yeah? Ipsilorum facem hidden whatever it is something in line over it may show up to be that one of these days in a Law-and-order although law & order la has been dropped apparently really every so funny Obviously like the fight on HBO and the guy gets hit in the mouth, and there's like this little No Agenda logo. No agenda logo on their face And they say well that must be a no-agenda night ring, and they say let's it can't be that many of them Oh my god There's hundreds of them will never find the guy Use the DNA okay so

CHAPTER 29 / 36 Discussion

CDC Zombie Apocalypse Preparedness Campaign

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) launched a social media campaign using a "zombie apocalypse" theme to encourage emergency preparedness. The hosts debate whether this is a joke or a "hip" marketing tactic. They criticize the CDC's advice for lacking practical "zombie killing" information, such as the "double tap" method, and link the concept to vaccine-induced behavior.

cdc· zombie apocalypse· emergency preparedness· swine flu· vaccines· double tap

1:51:25 I just want to know, can you pull out the prediction book? When did i predict that zombies would be in our future. This prediction book doesn't go back that far it doesn't go back that far but let me look just in case so these centers for disease control and this was posted by like a director of the CDC not that crazy woman and if you haven't seen this yet you've got it'll be in the show notes give them the web address Well it was on the CDC... It's like zombies slash cdc.gov or something, it was the weirdest thing I've ever seen! It's a site on the CDC and I don't see that it was done on April 1st or anything that would indicate its an April Fool's joke. No May 16th And uh.. It looks like an April Fools gag tell me it doesn't? No it does not because what it says Oh bull crap it is exactly what an April Fools gag is like So here it says well no from the CDC the people who brought you swine flu

1:52:25 There are all kinds of emergencies out there that we can prepare for. Take a zombie apocalypse, for example! That's right I said z-o-m-b-i-e-a p-o-c-a L-Y P S E. You may laugh now, but when it happens you'll be happy you read this and hey maybe you'll even learn a thing or two about how to prepare for a real emergency! And then he goes into... Okay that's why there is your angle by the way the website is emergency dot CDC dot gov slash social media slash zombies underscore doesn't matter it's in the show notes Yeah, but the show notes. Those show notes are so extensive they're more for researchers there's so many good notes in there it's astonishing and you know it should be at the top

1:53:12 This is an important site apparently. And we also have all the audio clips now in the show notes They got pictures of zombies, it's ridiculous this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen Did you see that its emergency dot CDC dot gov and they've got the zombie Get a kit make a plan be prepared! And im saying It's not a joke, it's not an April Fool's joke Zombies are real and this what going to happen there will be a zombie apocalypse! And thats because all the damn vaccines were getting shot up with We're already technically zombies. Well, not people who listen to the show of course but... So I'm sorry! But that'll be our... Zombies are coming that maybe they'll be this the name of this show. I just want a little props that I predicted zombies in our future and here we go You did? I don't have it in this book I just look back here The oldest one I got is what the hell was it now let's you know I gotta say with the old like the guy I got predictions back to February 24th of this year so this goes back to last year

1:54:11 The zombie prediction. I remember you saying something about zombies are going to be in the news, you had something...I wish i had the book then because it was a good prediction. Yeah convenient that you don't have that! It's probably written down somewhere. I just thought, you know...I'm not the most organized person in the world. And I can kind of back it up that they're trying to turn us into zombies now with this new thing DNA. Yeah so yeah just go to emergency.cdc.gov its right on their front page and click on it! On the zombie picture. Zombie apocalypse? This is crazy They're trying to be hip or maybe they're just not kidding

1:54:49 Why wouldn't you believe them? If... Why would they try to be hip, they're not a hip operation. I mean it's so when can we believe the next swine flu emergency or will that be like a joke as well You tell me how that works now! I thought it was a joke to begin with first one So we've got a DNA vaccine They got radiation emergencies dirty bombs nuclear but nuclear blasts I mean Got a hot pocket emergency baby Yeah Well anyway, I say be on the lookout. And remember you always gotta double tap the zombies Never take one shot for granted You got to pop them twice in the head Double tap is the only way to assure that the zombie is taken care of Do they have that mentioned on this webpage? Let me see! They don't think so No they don't They don't have anything on this page about how to kill a zombie Which is like... That's the information you need

1:55:47 Well, hold on a second. What do they have about... Let's read this page for a second! What do we do? So it has a brief histories about zombies. So we should have water, food medication tools and supplies including utility knife duct tape battery-powered radio yeah hey CDC I'm gonna throw my battery powered radio at the zombies see if that helps Yeah you least need a shovel so you can black them in... blast them in the head Here pick a meeting place for your family to regroup in case of zombies invade your home Or your town evacuates because of a hurricane. What? You need to double tap these bitches! They don't have anything, there's no good information here this is not useful No there's nothing about how to kill the zombie and what to do with him after you kill him and avoid being bitten

1:56:40 by a zombie. That's how it happens. Yeah, do they say don't get bit? No! This is useless information I bet you this website cost 18 million bucks though It probably costs something big I can't believe they don't say shotgun double barrel two to the head double tap go and then you gotta hit him with a shovel in the neck so that his head comes off yeah that works Okay, well so that's in the John we know John when we win the nomination and the election when we are the president and You'll be Secretary of State. So you can travel a lot We will put a real zombie emergency plan into effect And we will make sure everyone has a double-barrel shotgun and a shovel this will be part of our platform The zombie platform you think I'm kidding But I want that hundred million

CHAPTER 30 / 36 Discussion

Movie Clip of the Week: Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid

The hosts introduce a new segment, "Movie Clip of the Week," featuring a scene from the Sam Peckinpah classic Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid. They briefly mention new legislation that makes streaming copyrighted content a felony, justifying their use of the clip as fair use for promotional purposes.

sam peckinpah· pat garrett and billy the kid· movie clip· copyright· streaming felony

1:57:36 Yeah, well I'm sure you do. For me and my friends...I don't mind the idea. We'll get us some Ferraris Alright So uh... We'll get us a nice G5 jet. A little cruising around. Hey everybody! Hey everybody! Take 100 How ya doing? Here's 100 bucks baby Go buy yourself something nice Vote for me So i have a new segment that I want to introduce to the show Do we have a jingle for it No Movie clip of the week Oh okay So I have a movie clip of the week. Uh, that uh... Now you know this is uh, that it'll be a felony now if you stream any copyrighted content This is now a felony Yeah this is fair use because its just a clip and promotes-its a promotional clip but its a clip I think was a good one as soon as I heard it I said oh my god thats it I got a new segment Clip Of The Week Okay do we play it or do we need to intro it? Ladies and gentlemen here's your CLIP OF THE WEEK!

1:58:35 Is this in theater soon? Because I need to stay away from the theater. What is this? This is from Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid, a classic from Sam Peckinpah during his era of heavy cocaine abuse and drunkenness. Considered one of the best movies ever made! Great... let me ask you question

CHAPTER 31 / 36 Discussion

Debt Ceiling Crisis and Wall Street Interests

The hosts analyze the ongoing debt ceiling debate and Timothy Geithner's "extraordinary measures" to delay a default until August. Featuring a clip from Russia Today, economist Dean Baker explains that a default would primarily destroy Wall Street firms like JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs, which is why a deal to raise the ceiling is inevitable.

debt ceiling· timothy geithner· russia today· dean baker· wall street· default

1:59:26 Has the world financial system collapsed yet? Because that was supposed to happen if we didn't raise the debt limit on May 16th. It is now... Hold on, let me look out the window. Yeah you just check it's a garbage truck that went by so that's good news yeah I know! Did standards and poors did it like completely lower the debt rating? Are we all gone like Timmy Geithner said? Timmy! Is it as has the apocalypse come already Apparently not. They've cooked the books apparently to keep this from happening until August So I'm watching Russia Today and they're starting to listen to us

2:00:06 No, they're not. Yeah a little bit. Mm-hmm this yeah They are they're trying their try this I think what's happening is the executive it's typical the executives like you know They've hired some other douchebags but someone in there is really trying so now they have the girl whose I think she's been on She's American So that strike one because she needs to be Russian her name needs to be Natasha But she's kind of hot what they've done if dressed her in a red sleeveless and she's got big hooters And they're, you know, like... The question is that they kind of get it. You know they don't quite get it No they don't get it yet But anyway so she has some guy on and I thought was first of all It's funny because she messes it up She kind of does the intro for the wrong guest and he's like no I'm actually on the other side of the debate So she likes tries to be all controversial and stuff

2:00:55 and she messes what by the way I thought that tech TV was a cheap operation when i worked over there now Russia this is the worst Russia today is cheaper So first listen to our setup because this is all about the apocalypse and this guy who's on Actually spells it out quite quite perfectly and just so you understand This will be part of your cocktail material. So that when people talk about how The Republicans are horrible, and they're going to kill the faith and trust of the United States dollar And then you'll just say it's all bullcrap It's all one big show and you'll have some ammo but first let's listen to this two chick

2:01:34 And she's a chick. I'm not being sexist or anything She just a chick and they've dressed her up to look like a chick which missing the Russian and the name and sticking on the subject of money The United States has reached its credit limit the debt ceiling and what's happening chaos in financial markets The US defaulting on its debts? Armageddon? Well not exactly, but this may be why. So then, by the way don't get offended because this is how TV people talk. We you know it's unfortunate but that's how it works. No actually there was worse than that yeah we're being kind The Treasury Department has employed what Timothy Geithner has labeled quote extraordinary measures so the government can pay its bills until August

2:02:23 August 2nd. These include, just in case you wanted to know, borrowing from the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund, suspending investment in the Federal Employees' Retirement System...in short borrowing from Peter to pay Paul and Peter here sounding a lot like your average worker but here talk more big picture about the debt ceiling and what's at stake here is Dean Baker. He is co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research and we're so grateful to have you hear. So there are really two camps on this they are the Ben Bernankes and economists that fall in line with him that say uh... not raising the debt ceiling defaulting on debt for u s would be catastrophe and then there are those that seem to be you and yourself included that say that they get the bigger disaster is at united states keeps room spending this much and keep raising a debt ceilings so it's a defendant no i'm actually not know how you're okay if he could do it

2:03:18 So listen to this guy, because he spells it out pretty well. I don't see any problem with the United States raising the debt ceiling where I think I've differed with perhaps some of the disaster people. I have said that in a worst case scenario if you actually had a situation where the government had to default on its debt which would be very bad scenario we'd have financial crisis worse than what we had in 2008 and the economy would still be there at the end of day countries go through financial crisis you know why do that But we would be there at the end of the day. What I've always pointed out to people is what would not be there is Wall Street, JPMorgan, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs... They would be out of business which is why it's not going to happen because they if we actually got to the point where this was a conceivable possibility were well away from that now

2:04:04 but if we actually got to the point where that was a realistic possibility they would be screaming at Boehner and the other Republicans telling them to pass the debt ceiling, get it to President Obama and have it signed. So according to Boehner seems like they're already pushing for it but it seems that the GOP wants to get this bargaining chip of deficit reduction commitment in the works do you think thats just a talking point? Don't interrupt the guests with your own questions. Okay, just you know look perky Just not a little bit and what you know we'll switch the cameras don't worry don't ask questions honey because do you think ultimately they will bow to? And the demands of investors Absolutely absolutely without a doubt which is why if President Obama wants he just says give me a clean debt ceiling But I mean it's important understand what we're talking about is spending money that's already been authorized so every person

2:04:53 penny that's going to be spent. Congress already voted on and approved, so it is sort of like we sign a lease on the apartment and then two months down the road we go oh that is too much money or not going pay the rent well we already signed the lease no other country in the world has this sort of issue once you appropriate the money goes out the door if you don't like it you do not appropriate it and of course congress could vote to retract appropriations its entirely within their power so it's trying to play the sort of weird game where they go all you can let the country defaults so let's you know cut social security lets come into care whatever might be and you know my guess is that president obama certainly if he says give me a clean bill no doubt the republicans will give mclean bill because their backers on wall street will kill them if they don't

CHAPTER 32 / 36 Discussion

14th Amendment and the Validity of Public Debt

The hosts examine Section 4 of the 14th Amendment, which states the validity of the public debt shall not be questioned. They discuss how this language, originally intended for post-Civil War pensions and bounties, is being used to justify unchecked government spending on national security and overseas wars without public oversight.

14th amendment· public debt· constitution· pentagon· insurrection· bounties

2:05:39 Their backers on Wall Street will kill them. And you know what? He's not kidding! Yeah, this is a fun big show It's a big BIG SHOW and you know it so we're now May 19th S&P hasn't come out and said oh well You're now skating on thin ice weapons of mass destruction and have you seen this link going around from the Atlantic where And it's a very leftist type thing. People are saying, It's in the 14th Amendment section 4! Have you seen this? No Okay so I did some research on this Do you have it in front of ya? Yes I do Well Skype it to me Just Google frothymix dot com You'll end up getting Tom Hartman Just do 14th amendment article four

2:06:29 The validity of the public debt of the United States authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any... By the way that's only line that is quoted in the article. The second half of section 4 is But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection, or rebellion against the United States. Or any claim for loss and emancipation of any slave but all such debts obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void." So if this indeed is... If we want to keep to the Constitution and why would we?

2:07:11 I think it's completely fair that the Pentagon shows us exactly how much of the national debt is owed and bounties paid. So they need to show us the bill because, of course this is for insurrection or rebellion right? Right?! so I think they should show us and then maybe we'd all see how abhorrently high that bill is And we would all consider our taxes and how its being used But when I was reading this, it kind of dawned on me that this is what they're using to build the Department of Homeland Security. The whole see something say something thing is based upon the fact that the Constitution states you can basically spend as much money on you want on bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion which is kinda internal like homeland stuff and they can just grow this forever and it can't be questioned! What do ya say?

2:08:17 I don't know about the insurrection thing, that doesn't...I think that's immaterial. It just basically says, I'm going to read it, the validity of the public debt of United States authorized by law which means anything any debt that they decide including debts incurred for payment of pensions which means nothing it means you have to pay that too and bounties or services shall not be questioned That means no debts, you can't question any of it You can ask for anybody to do...for anything! You can't ask for books No, you can't question it. I know! Yeah that's what it says shall not be questioned in other words you can ask to see the books Oh I'm so stupid well I'm sorry didn't mean to ask for something oh I must be some kind of sovereign citizen or something it's bad Alright let me just... And by the way it says bounties for services and suppressing insurrection or rebellion doesn't say against the country

2:09:18 Oh, could you speak to it? It says it in the second paragraph but in the second sentence. But the first sentence just says...it doesn't say, it doesn't specifically say, it just says including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services and suppressing insurrection rebellion comma shall not be questioned period that's it! So in other words all the money we're spending on these overseas wars would actually go under that I believe that sentence I'm sure they've argued this probably awesome And it was all ratified in... A long time ago. 1868, anyway. Citizenship rights. Shut up then! Shut up! Yeah shut up!! Let me just run down a couple of stories with you John see if we can get any rise out here. Facebook will become the first service to use Microsoft's photo DNA, a new technology from the app economy from the dashboard that can quickly comb through millions of photos to identify illegal images.

CHAPTER 33 / 36 Discussion

Monsanto's New Super-Vegetable Catalog and Tearless Onions

Monsanto is launching a new line of conventionally bred but highly engineered vegetables, including "Beneforté" broccoli with high antioxidants and "EverMild" tearless onions. The hosts mock the desire for "bland" vegetables and question the necessity of engineering out the natural characteristics of produce like onions and melons.

monsanto· gmo· beneforte broccoli· evermild onion· sweet peak melon· agriculture

2:10:20 Of course it's all under the auspices of porn. Child porn! Well, guess what? They're gonna be identifying your face... slave Right now we're in the middle of NLE 11, NLE 2011 This is a national level exercise so expect something to happen somewhere somehow It would be fine if they could- it ends on the 20th So that's tomorrow when the NLE ends Just in time for something bad to happen on Saturday. Monsanto has a new gambit! Wait, let me just roll it out here... Yes They now have a catalog of seeds that spans 4,000 vegetables and fruit varieties across 20 species And they've got some great stuff that they think the people of the world will just love Listen to this

2:11:18 At the store this morning you finally ditched the old thumb test and picked out a perfectly ripe melon based on color alone. The broccoli in your fridge will supercharge the level of antioxidants your body produces, helping repel disease! And now you're tearlessly chopping away at an onion while making your famous chili Fantasyland? Not for long, according to St. Louis-based agribusiness giant Monsanto which is throwing its cons... Why would I want an onion that doesn't have any onion characteristics? Well because it sucks when you cry when you're chopping the onions No it doesn't! You just do enough and chop enough onions and that phenomenon goes away It's like people who have motorcycles know this

2:11:56 When you drive a motorcycle with, you know and your eyes are exposed to the high wind. You gotta drive faster! Yeah, you drive and drive and drive and then... ...your eyes water and water and then at some point they go away I guess this is no big deal They stop watering And this is what happens when you chop tomatoes or onions, you chop-chop-chop And then at some point that you don't have this problem anymore if you'd cook You know what I do when i'm chopping the onion? When my is uh and by the way, I barely have it anymore But i'd like eat a piece of raw onion which tastes great. By the way Do you ever do that just like pop a piece of raw on your face sweet onions out? I'll do them but I won't eat regular onion It's like most of them are too sharp. No, I like it. I like yeah, well that makes sense Yeah monsanto was definitely putting his time and his energy behind these investments in fruits and vegetables

2:12:43 So how much demand is there for superstar fruits and vegetables? Kathy Means, vice president for produce marketing says that's the Produce Marketing Association unlimited when you hit... What do you mean unlimited? Unlimited! When you hit the right mark consumers will buy it. There ya go we're gonna get the tearless okay oh here are the actual products Beneforté broccoli. This is already in California and Texas! Oh yeah. Okay, Beneforté broccoli contains boosted levels of nutrients including... glucor... Just go on you don't have to read it. It doesn't matter. And increases the amount of antioxidant enzymes in the body available test markets in California, Texas and Gelson's Bristol Farms

2:13:42 Nice What is some they're like flying over me now? We have the sweet peak melon a honeydew melon that has a sweet flavor with the skin that turns from white to creamy Orange when ripe I should be in stores this summer Yeah, because heaven knows there's not enough melon varieties in the world. And the ever mild onion... This is for you John! A mild and- A bland onion hooray!! The mild and sweet onion that has been bred to have a muted level of compound that causes tearing when it is chopped It is grown in the Northwest US and harvested during fall when onions typically have to be imported Availability at Schnuck Supermarkets Inc. in St Louis. Schnuck

2:14:26 Don't be a schmuck, shop at Snook. You know, I think I want to throw up right now Can you believe this crap man? And and you know, and I and I believe what the vegetable Association woman is saying Unlimited unlimited demand everybody wants the tearless onion haven't you heard it's good for ya. Hey What is this circumcision ban in San Francisco have you heard about this? Oh

CHAPTER 34 / 36 Discussion

San Francisco Male Circumcision Ban Ballot Measure

A controversial measure to ban the circumcision of male children has qualified for the November ballot in San Francisco. Proponent Lloyd Schofield argues the procedure is an invasive medical choice that should be left to the individual. The hosts discuss the clash between parental rights, religious tradition, and government interference in private family matters.

san francisco· circumcision· lloyd schofield· ballot measure· aids· civil liberties

2:15:12 Well San Francisco, as you recall from last week's episode is trying to get people to put their thumbprint into a database before they can go into a bar. And I don't know what the reason of this... maybe they hate Jews? I don't know! A group seeking to ban the circumcision of male children in San Francisco has succeeded in getting their controversial measure on the November ballot meaning voters will be asked to weigh-in on what Until now has been a private family matter. It should be a private family matter Of course it's so why why is it not a private family matter anymore? I don't understand III know there are bunch of socialist commies in San Francisco They're idiots they're trying to get a thumbprint to go into a good bar to have a beer they say that International health organizations have promoted circumcision as an important strategy for reducing the spread of the AIDS virus and

2:16:07 I don't understand. So now they're trying to ban it? I don't understand! Well then maybe they want more AIDS, I uh... I don't get it! Parents are really guardians, guardians have to do what's in the best interest of the child It's his body, its' his choice here The measure, oh okay. The measures lead proponent longtime San Francisco resident Lloyd Schofield who says cutting away... the cutting away of the foreskin from the penis is a more invasive medical procedure than many new parents or childless individuals realize." Oh well I'm traumatized how about you are you traumatized? I still wake up in the middle of the night and go

CHAPTER 35 / 36 Discussion

HAARP Earthquake Theories and Supreme Court Search Rulings

The hosts discuss theories regarding atmospheric heating before earthquakes, linking them to HAARP. They also cover a recent 8-1 Supreme Court decision allowing police to break down doors without a warrant if they hear sounds suggesting evidence destruction. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was the lone dissenter, citing concerns over the Fourth Amendment.

haarp· nasa· noaa· supreme court· fourth amendment· ruth bader ginsburg

2:16:56 It's crazy. What is the world coming to? It's crazy! You're coming to busy bodies trying to run your life, especially in California. California has just gotten tremendously pathetic Now this is the article that is definitely second half of the show but this is from some actual measurements The atmosphere above Japan heated rapidly just before the magnitude 9 earthquake And as you know I'm a total believer in HAARP being part of the earthquake machinery. Have you ever heard about the atmosphere heating rapidly before an earthquake? Is this normal, John? I don't believe a word of it! Really? You don't believe a word of this warming? Of the report yeah...I think it's all bullcrap. Dimitar Uzunov at NASA Governed Space Flight Center in Maryland and few friends of his presented the data Global Warming

2:17:56 Oh, they're gonna call it global warming. I just call it HAARP! You're gonna call it global warming? Also measured extremely low frequencies before the Haiti earthquake... Hmm okay. That sounds like HAARP but who are these people from NASA? There's a lot of people that claim they're from NASA No seriously! Well take a look at these show notes! I swear to God this is a fact. I'm sitting with a guy from NASA At this, this was in Seoul Korea. He's at the table he's like the head or the last chief of NASA Ames or something like that a NASA guy goes up and gives us talk some crazy talk The guy says to me who is this guy? I've never heard of him Well it's a big organization All right how about NOAA do you believe those guys there was another big organization with a bunch of crazies Yep

2:18:51 Geneva, senior official at the US National Ocean and Atmospheric Administration says solar storms pose a growing threat to critical infrastructure such as satellite communications navigation systems and electrical transmission equipment. NOAA Assistant Secretary Catherine Sullivan says the intensity of solar storms is expected to peak in 2013 countries should be prepared for potentially devastating effects like a zombie apocalypse Solar storms releases particles that can temporarily disable or permanently destroy fragile computer circuits. Yeah, now she's a former and NASA astronaut who in 1984 became the first woman to walk in space crazy She crazy is that a crazy woman you remember a couple years ago? I think it was during our show era

2:19:41 There was supposed to be some huge blast of crap coming off the sun that was gonna wipe out all the satellites. Remember this? Yeah, well thi-this did actually happen in uh...the 90's In the mid-90s we had, remember all the pagers went off air? Yeah. That's when the circuits were designed differently and it was just... I don't know! The last event never occurred and I'm skeptical about any of these things until that power actually goes off Well, I'm keeping my zombie apocalypse clip nearby just in case And then finally what happened in Indiana, now the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court of the land, the people who make the law of the land John. The Supreme Court of these United States of America not the supreme court of some state or someplace like the big one In an 8 to 1 decision this is the supreme court like you know with Clarence Thomas on it You know the long dong silver guy

2:20:39 The justices in an 8-1 decision said officers who loudly knock on a door and hear sounds suggesting evidence is being destroyed may break down the door and enter without a search warrant. Yeah, which means they can hear anything And who voted against it? The 8-1? What's her name, Kiki is the only one who voted against it. No uh Ruth Bader Ginsburg Yeah! Kiki Is that her nickname, Kiki? Yeah Little known fact She says, hey that could like interfere with the Fourth Amendment. Thanks Kiki! And she's like such a dingbat I mean it's like why is she the only one? Thanks Kiki really yeah really Nobody else cares Well we got the Monsanto shill long dong silver in there But isn't this crazy this is the Supreme Court I thought that was the most disgusting story of the week Yeah really its disturbing I just don't know what to do It's a police state let's face it We just have to put up with it

CHAPTER 36 / 36 Discussion

Presidential Book Deals and Condoleezza Rice's Grumpy Prick Comment

The show concludes with a discussion on the profitability of presidential book deals, noting Barack Obama's reported earnings. They play a clip of Condoleezza Rice responding to Donald Rumsfeld's criticisms by calling him a "grumpy guy." The hosts sign off from the Hilltop Watchtower, reminding listeners of the potential end-of-days on Saturday.

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2:21:41 And I'd like to ask you one final question because i have a clip for this. How much money do you think uh, you can make off of a book? Off of a book?! Yeah! Like- You mean the absolute most anyone's ever made from a book? Oh like it let's say you're a senator and and you're running for president and then you become president oh you could probably make about uh... I'd say fifty million bucks Really!? Wow okay well then don't have to play the clip so Obama because they reported I don't know how they do this by the way, but they say they have between two and eleven million dollars. Yeah so that could be really be right yeah Wow shoot hey we got to make a book Hey let's where are you going? You have to be the president, you have to Obama get the voice down! Well listen hello everybody read this book Dreams About My Foreskin And Condi Rice finally i'll play this one then is still out on the promotional tour I don't understand why until I heard the clip Then I Got It

2:22:46 and she has some choice words for our friend Ted Rumsfeld. So I have to ask you, Don Rumsfeld says that you were, to put it bluntly a bad national security advisor. That you didn't take to President Bush the hard difficult differences among his key national security advisors and that produced a lot of the dysfunction that people commented on. And he really puts it pretty squarely on you what do you say? Look, Don is a friend and he'll always be a friend but he's a grumpy guy or at least and he doesn't know what he's talking about. He never followed me from the Situation Room to the Oval Office, where the President and I would have intense discussions about what was going on in that room who thought what? And where the President would decide go back in there and keep seeing if you can find a consensus or whether the president will take a decision. The president wasn't shy about taking a decision so Don doesn't know what he is talking about plus I'll write my own book then we can talk about it.

2:23:47 Pre-promotion for her own book is what this is about. Ah, pre promotion's a good thing! Yes and did I tell you my wife's working on it books almost done on eggs? Yeah what happened to the pepper book? What happened to the financial cycles book that book is under still being worked on. It's in a cycle. It's in the cycle Anyway, I thought Don is a grumpy guy is kind of agree. I like Donna's a grumpy guy Yeah, Don as a grumpy guy dot-com whether they shot him up with Botox that doesn't look so grouchy yeah grumpy prick Hey So we've got mr.. Oil coming up with the oils The oil show the crude oils on the stream followed by GX to of course with his extravaganza for this Thursday as he usually does and Well John has been nice knowing you

2:24:37 I think we've had a great run for four years, and i'll see you up there. Hey wait a minute What happens if nothing happens? What are we gonna do? Oh crap! We'll have to get up early on sunday I guess Well let's see You know we could get torrential rains it could rain for 40 days and 40 nights I don't know...I mean I believe in earthquake machines It doesn't really look like it here I believe in lots of stuff counting anything out. So thank you all very much for your support over the past four years just in case and otherwise we'll see you Sunday coming to you from the hilltop watchtower crackpot command center I am the extremely belligerent lone wolf my name is Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where there's not a cloud in the sky, I'm John C Dvorak so I don't know if will be here but just in case see you Sunday on no agenda

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