Episode 302 · Sunday, 8 May 2011

Web Savvy Wolf

Media outlets synchronize on the new lone wolf terror threat while the White House enlists Hollywood stars to rebrand immigration policy and the DREAM Act.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 302

About this episode

George Stephanopoulos and ABC News lead a media blitz following the Abbottabad raid, framing recovered intelligence as a greatest hits album of terrorist plots. The Pentagon release of silent home videos showing a gray-bearded Osama bin Laden triggers widespread skepticism over the theatrical nature of the reporting. These narratives coincide with the emergence of the web savvy terrorist meme as officials pivot toward domestic lone wolf threats.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton attributes her famous Situation Room gesture to an allergic cough while Eva Longoria joins the White House to reframe immigration policy for the Latino community. In the Senate, the See Something Say Something Act moves forward, granting civil immunity to citizens reporting suspicious activity. Meanwhile, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke faces questioning from Congressman Mel Watt regarding the economic impact of climate change, and Marc Grossman assumes his role as special envoy amid lingering whistleblower allegations.

Vice President Joe Biden attempts a rugged military persona at Fort Campbell, using tactical jargon like clicks while recounting a confusing story about his granddaughter and Navy SEALs. Adam Curry adopts his new Lone Wolf persona to navigate the technical failures of a Comcast connection. The episode concludes with a C-SPAN lobster expert explaining why shedders are superior to hard-shell varieties.


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CHAPTER 01 / 31 Discussion

Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 302 Introduction

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 302 of No Agenda on May 8, 2011. Curry announces his new signature persona as "The Lone Wolf" while the hosts mock the media coverage surrounding the death of Osama bin Laden.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· episode 302· lone wolf

00:00 Mine says my computer is fast. Really? Adam Curry, John C. DeVora It's Sunday May 8th 2011 time for your Gidmonation Media Assassination episode 302 This is no agenda wondering how Osama Bin Laden's mom feels. And coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West and The People's Republic of Southern California in the morning I'm Adam Curry. Four megs up what I'm John C. Dvorak Yeah, and I love it how you know we have a little over 1,000 people who listen live on the stream And they're like well this sucks. I'm not this show will never get off the ground. I'm gonna see you Thursday

00:57 Ah, ye of little faith. I got off the ground! Anyway you sound great John Hey by the way um...I'm gonna make it official now Okay I am Adam Curry THE LONE WOLF That's going to be my new signature Everywhere i go I'M THE LONE WOLF EVERYBODY THE LONEEE WOLFF What a meme fest this past couple days We've been seeing on the television. You know, ABC News is still the best John if you want some real entertainment this is of course the Disney guys they do know how to do it They know how to put some good ass entertainment together Well what are ya talking about?

CHAPTER 02 / 31 Discussion

ABC News Coverage of Osama Bin Laden Intelligence Files

ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos reports on a "mother lode" of intelligence recovered from Osama bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad. The hosts critique the theatrical language used by the network, including phrases like "greatest hits album" and "hallmark plots," suggesting the reporting is scripted government propaganda.

abc news· george stephanopoulos· osama bin laden· al-qaeda· mother lode

01:50 Just the words they use and how they position everything. I mean, come on! They work for the government what do you expect? Well some of them used to work for the government like George Stephanopoulos What was he again? He was the press secretary for Clinton. of the killing of Osama Bin Laden and the terror files that have been uncovered. Just the way they position this, I think they literally say hey are you doing Glee? You can just work over here because we like the way you write it's really entertaining come on over Al Qaeda finally confirmed today that he was killed and vowed to retaliate saying Americans happiness will turn into sadness

02:46 But that threat comes as we're learning more about that mother load of intelligence. Mother lode? It's the mother lode, John! The mother lode was taken from Bin Laden's compound Last night Pierre Thomas broke the story of a plan to attack trains on the 10th anniversary of 9-11 and he joins us again tonight And Pierre these bin laden files could be the most valuable intelligence breaks ever Indeed George As investigators review a mountain of intelligence A mountain?! John, it sounds like he's Stephanopoulos. Sounds like he's reading it then but he didn't write it no No of course not these are professional writers and anybody is making it is making It sound as if you know it's like I can read other people's material

03:30 but he's making it sound like he didn't want to do this. Did you notice that when hesitating, its like telegraphing it? That is...that this is bull crap? Well I think I know what's going on because you know he's been hired to do Good Morning America which is kind of the live off-the-cuff and not really off the cuff but kinda like that informal show and this is him straight on behind a desk into the teleprompter. I don't think he likes that. It demeans him as what he feels You know what I mean? And so that's why... Either that or he has no prompter skills at all, but i've seen him before. He seems okay But he also understands where this is coming from you know he sees the presidential seal on the teleprompter

04:11 He's like, oh gosh. These guys wrote this and then we have to read this Can you play that again? Because it was so stiff that it seemed forced I mean It seemed as if he was trying to let us know it was bullcrap Al-Qaeda finally confirmed today That he was killed and vowed to retaliate saying Americans happiness will turn to sadness You know what? Oh, he doesn't have the... See, he is in a newsreader setting but he's not doing the news reader way Okay, I finally confirmed that he was killed. Yeah, that's how you do it George. I'm like he was killed and yeah They said didn't you know the happiness will turn to sadness? But that threat comes as we're learning more about that motherload of intelligence taken from bin Laden's compound last night Pierre Thomas broke the story of a plan to attack trains on the 10th anniversary Of 9-11 and he joins us again tonight and pierre these bin laden files could be the most valuable intelligence breaks ever

05:06 Indeed, George. As investigators review a mountain of intelligence from Osama Bin Laden's compound, sources say it is clear bin Laden was the mastermind behind the attack on the White House. Approving the cash of electronic and handwritten materials in what? Electronic and handwritten materials including notebooks taken from the bin Laden compound is both a strategic playbook And the greatest hits album about kind of aspirations

05:47 Who writes this? It's a greatest hits album of Al Qaeda inspirations. We should put that together. And now... Greatest Hits? 13 tracks, it's the greatest hits of al qaeda's inspirations finally on K-Tel Records CDs and tapes. And 8 tracks were available. Greatest Hits! While no imminent plots have been uncovered, it is clear from the files that Bin Laden was constantly consulting on ways to attack the US. Couriers were bringing Bin Laden computer disks and other computer material thumb drives Thumb drives Watch out John, this is going to be illegal soon. Thumb drives... You cannot have a thumb drive in your keychain That might've had plots on them Plots We know in the past he's approved specific attacks and he sent attacks back for further work and further analysis The materials include numerous Hallmark Al-Qaeda plots Hallmark al Qaeda plots? I mean... Am I crazy? It sounded like Doug

06:46 It does sound like that. Dematerial included various Al Qaeda plots, hallmarks including attacks on infrastructure targets such as water supply and transportation rail and air in the past al-qaeda plans for attacks on water supplies have included an interest in mining dams and poisoning the water The documents show there was clear interest in attacks on the most prominent US cities New York Chicago Los Angeles and Washington DC And contrary to what many analysts thought, a strategy to attack Americans on holidays and anniversaries. Bin Laden also apparently sought to recruit minorities to conduct attacks. This is my favorite! Minorities! We've gotta get minorities to do it because then we'll hate them! Excuse me this is America...

07:32 Are you out of your mind? The goal to not only kill and maim, but to create class warfare and set in motion a destruction of American society. By using the tool of minorities as terrorists I think he wants to create unrest The documents. Do you think that literally like in the, in this Hallmark treasure trove mountain of evidence there was a note there that said memo to self make sure we get some hip hopper to do this so we can hate black people and then maybe someone named Juan? I mean do you really think that it's just no... And by the way So what comes out right after our show

CHAPTER 03 / 31 Discussion

High-Speed Rail Security and Obama's 2009 Vision

A 2009 clip of President Barack Obama promoting high-speed rail is contrasted with recent reports of Al-Qaeda plots targeting trains. The discussion focuses on the inevitability of airport-style security, including shoe removal, being implemented for the American rail system.

barack obama· high-speed rail· tsa· security· trains

08:16 trains we're gonna go hit the trains were going to go out kinda wants a derail the trains let me take you back to just around this time, it was actually June of 2009 and we played this clip on the No Agenda program and we said there will be a time in the future when we will pull this clip out again. And we will remind you what our president George W Obama said about trains which we need to pay billions of dollars for because they're so great. Destructive emissions and creates jobs What were talking about is a vision for high-speed rail in America

08:55 Imagine boarding a train in the center of the city. No racing to an airport, and across the terminal no delays, no sitting on the tarmac, no lost luggage... ...no taking off your shoes! No taking off your shoes! Yeah you'll be taken off your shoes Hello everybody Yep You will Of course you will. So, we're talking about taking off your shoes and all that high-speed rail and the security... You have more Obama I mean this Osama thing? I almost said it by the way i was listening to somebody the other day and they actually said instead of calling him Barack Obama they actually got so carried away where they call him Osama Bin Laden! It's funny you say that because in our PR segment somebody

09:43 We've got a lot of really cool domain names that have been registered for us such as barackosama2012.com and my favorite is obama det laden Obama ben laden, yeah Ob-Obama Det Laden As in Layden You gotta see it to understand it I guess so But yeah no its been happening Its still happening Well you can't...its almost impossible to prevent So, I thought that this whole week has been one of nothing but these ridiculous... This is the distraction of the month. This is going to go on and there's no other news. If you look at my clips, I got a bunch of obscure stuff and I just got more out of watching The Lady Gaga concert than with anything else Well, I disagree There is a war going on, there's an information war that is very interesting

CHAPTER 04 / 31 Discussion

MSNBC Media Warfare and Condoleezza Rice Interview

MSNBC hosts Lawrence O'Donnell and Ed Schultz are criticized for their aggressive interview style and focus on Bush-era intelligence failures. A clip features Condoleezza Rice defending the administration's actions regarding Iraqi aluminum tubes and the decision to remove Saddam Hussein.

msnbc· condoleezza rice· lawrence o'donnell· ed schultz· aluminum tubes

10:41 I'm seeing MSNBC is going all out. on Republicans, I mean more so than ever but really shouting and yelling them down. And the Republicans are all trying to say well you know hey we did a good job and we were alright to do this and Bush started it all and waterboarding is really important but i think there was a memo that went out

11:18 to just like yell and I mean they've so if you're Condoleezza Rice right would you be doing an interview with anybody right now for any reason whatsoever? Seriously, is there any reason to do that? Any reason to do what? To do an interview with MSNBC. Right now! If your Condoleezza Rice why would you do an interview with MSNBC? There's no reason in the world you'd want to Unless of course there's some warfare going on Because MSNBC or as they say in the business, The M.S., has particularly two shows, The Ed Show and Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell

12:04 They've been like just crazy about slamming the Bush intelligence, their war mongering going into Iraq for oil. You know they brought out this Colonel Wilkerson who was literally just saying oh I know why Cheney went into Iraq it's it was all about oil! It's like what really? So I think there is some kind of... There something going on behind the scenes Well, there might be but I can tell you this. The Lawrence O'Donnell show and the Ed Schultz show...Ed Schultz seems like just a psychopath He screams at the camera he yells and says everything that's ever bad that has ever happened in the world because of Republicans

12:47 is a hate monger of the worst kind and O'Donnell's a subtle version of the same thing and there's no material that I can't watch those two shows well as an end they're trying to be Olbermann, they're both trying to be Olbermann neither one of them can do it. And Olbermann cant even do it but I thought it was interesting O'Donnell interviewed Condoleezza Rice who got so frustrated that she actually pulled out the Hitler card Which I thought was like, wow you're really gonna do that on me Condi? She's like, and just let's do a little bit of it. This I thought was funny because he is just yelling at her and she is yelling back at him. They were the kind of tubes that were used for... This was about the tubes? Remember the tubes in Iraq? The tubes? Rockets! That kind of, when you say that intelligence indicated your White House was using intelligence incorrectly You are misstating what the intelligence actually was Lawrence we can do this one way or another

13:45 All right, you can let me answer your questions or you talk about the way you make rhetorical statements Let's talk about the aluminum tubes that you were so wrong about That is he is a jackass He keeps interrupting the whole time and it does give just like say You did this and then she tries to rebutt and then he interrupts her again. That's one of those things You like to use as an indication of what the intelligence was telling you but the White House was misinterpreting the intelligence No, no. This was not the White House misinterpreting anything Ah okay here it comes this is the intelligence so for some reason the White House didn't mess up It was the intelligence The director of the CIA briefed Congress that those aluminum tubes were most likely Who was the director of the CIA during Bush? Oh I don't know Huh? Clear capability You said exclusively

14:39 We believed that the nuclear tube, that the tubes given Saddam Hussein's history Given the long trail of what he was trying to acquire were for nuclear weapons. Now you're right The intelligence turned out to have been wrong But do you know? You don't get to get up in the morning and say you know my intelligence might be wrong! You have to act on the intelligence that you have And that's the intelligence we had at the time. When you look at what we now are calling the Arab Spring, and when you look at these uprisings against these dictators in the region would it have been better now knowing what we all know now? Would it have been better to wait and let history catch-up with Saddam Hussein in Iraq? Do you think we might have a similar uprising in Iraq today? Saddam Hussein was a threat and we dealt with the threat

15:28 We didn't go to Iraq to bring democracy anymore than dealing with Adolf Hitler was to bring democracy to Germany. I thought we did go there, too, like bring democracy They talk, yeah that's true. I mean they keep changing the story but the question i have to ask one of course is where all his democrat friends who voted yes on this when it came to congress having its ability to say no? And second what are we talking about this This is like beating a dead horse. Well there's some reason for it because everything is about how... I'm telling you, there's something going on! I can't put my finger on it but you know You can tell that there's some kind of warfare happening There's something happening and MSNBC has been called to the front lines To go and yell and attack everybody

CHAPTER 05 / 31 Discussion

Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson on Iraq Oil and Rumsfeld

Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, former chief of staff to Colin Powell, claims the Iraq War was motivated by oil interests and labels Donald Rumsfeld "delusional." The segment addresses the legal risks facing former Bush officials regarding waterboarding and international travel restrictions.

lawrence wilkerson· donald rumsfeld· iraq war· waterboarding· torture

16:20 and then they get this... Well it's got to have something to do with General Electric then. Yeah well of course, no doubt! Do they still actually own the outfit? Do they still own MSNBC? No they own half of it now Comcast owns uh the majority ownership Comcast who has given me a point 0.7 down connection on a line I'm supposed to be getting 10 megabits well, maybe we should stop playing the anti MSNBC clips and maybe we'll get some more bandwidth from them We never did rarely play him. I think it's just that I don't know what's causing this problem But it started last night okay? Well. I'm sorry. I wish it wasn't so irritating for you anyway. Yes, sorry Colonel Wilkerson

17:05 and all of these clips will be available. I'm not going to play everything, of course but i did pull a lot of stuff he says, oh we went into Iraq for the oil. He says the new Iraq oil report says 300 billion barrels of oil in Iraq is very obvious, you know and we didn't want to go. We couldn't do Iraq is what he was saying but then he lays into our buddy Ted Rumsfeld which is just funny Well my former boss Colin Powell recently said that Donald Rumsfeld was delusional and deceptive and he could prove both points My former boss is right And on this issue Donald Rumsfeld is more delusional than deceptive probably than any other

17:42 First of all, his last statement about hordes of intelligence is preposterous. It didn't produce hordes of intelligence in fact I never saw any raw intelligence pass my desk that came from such things that was actionable and really led to any circumstance at all that produced a result that was positive Secondly Donald Rumsfeld only has as knowledge what his bureaucracy gave him He wasn't there he wasn't at the site Multiple tiers of bureaucracy gave him the information that he has. And he made damn sure that that bureaucracy was sycophant, yes men, yes women He made sure that people working for him told him what they wanted to hear So one has to expect Donald Rumsfeld heard what he just said and that was actionable intelligence produced by these procedures It's preposterous and let me say one last thing

18:39 As Christopher Hitchens said after he was actually waterboarded, this is torture. Changing his view... Let me waterboard Donald Rumsfeld! And then we'll see if he says it's torture or not. Why do you think Rumsfeld is doing this? He has got to cover his rear end I mean, there are cases in foreign countries right now being worked by lawyers there. One in Switzerland actually kept President George Bush from visiting Switzerland that will under international auspices bring cases against Cheney, Rumsfeld, Faith, Addington et al. These people don't dare resort to anything other than defending their positions because ultimately even within their lifetimes they may be subject to litigation I will predict that as i've said many times before they will not travel except perhaps Israel and Saudi Arabia So I think that's the answer John these guys want to take a vacation so they gotta get waterboarding legalized

CHAPTER 06 / 31 Discussion

Comcast Bandwidth Issues and George W. Bush Travel

Technical difficulties with a Comcast internet connection lead to a discussion about George W. Bush's historical lack of interest in international travel. The hosts joke that the waterboarding controversy provides the former president a convenient excuse to avoid traveling to Europe.

comcast· skype· george w. bush· travel· bandwidth

19:40 They can't travel. That's the whole problem! Well, there is more than just a waterboarding issue Wow Oh boy... That's so sad when that happens We'll see if we can get Johnny Boy back Poor John and his Comcast You know it's so sad when you can't connect on Skype Yeah You know why? Because then Skype goes Awww Have you ever heard that? Have you ever heard Skype go Awww

20:19 Oh well. You're probably right, something's probably up I don't know what it is but we'll figure it out either that or just really slow news day and they said okay what do we got to talk about now let's blast Bush! Yeah well no... That's what the Bush administration did about Clinton for the first six years. That's true But I think it's about the travel thing. I think you know, the tired of the ranch? You know is like...I want to go to Europe! Yeah, I'll tell you why that doesn't make any sense to me. Bush never liked traveling before he was president. He was one.. I think he was the only president ever elected to the United States presidency who had never been out of the country at the time of his election. That's right, I remember that. Okay well then maybe but me oh he's getting older maybe he wants to do a world tour or something backpacking

21:05 I think this gives him the perfect excuse. The only reason he did waterboarding is so he had an excuse to stay home. Laura's like, George! Let's go on that backpacking tour we didn't do in college. Freaking Europeans... Maybe waterboard somewhere else. I'd rather stay here and cut back for it Anyway, so our president went off and spiked the ball in Kentucky there where the Navy SEALs are from. And of course what you did not see on television was on C-SPAN and that was Vice President Joe Biden

CHAPTER 07 / 31 Discussion

Joe Biden's Military Anecdotes at Fort Campbell

Vice President Joe Biden is mocked for his use of military terminology like "clicks" and "damn mountains" during a speech to troops at Fort Campbell. The hosts characterize his performance as an attempt to sound more rugged and experienced than he is.

joe biden· fort campbell· navy seals· military lingo· clicks

21:44 and who by the way looks like he's looking more and more like Henry Winkler. Have you noticed this? Yes, absolutely! He looks like The Fonz. He just needs to darken his hair put a wig on... You know The Fonz I mean he made some facial gestures It is The Fonz! I'm expecting him to sell reverse mortgage or whatever Henry Winkler selling these days it's like wow he's totally the Fonz so we comes out because he's the warm-up act for For George W Obama and here's a just 40 second clip of O Biden's warm-up speech. Comrade you've lost the losses you... Oh by the way, this is about him talking how awesome he is. ...personally endured You've been some of them are in some most inhospitable terrain In the world I've been there number time back up on those damn mountains Those damn mountains it sounds like he'd like he was like fighting doesn't it? I was up there in that damn Mountains that crappy ass terrain

22:40 I had frag all over me. I got a helicopter down at 8-9, 9800 feet and all i got on was vest A bulletproof vest. And I had a rubber knife and compass that's all I had when the chopper went down 9800 feet in them damn mountains I'm Joe O'Biden everybody Out of breath climbing up 40 clicks. I mean, 40 feet. Yeah we talking military lingo here when we're at the camp! We talking clicks and you guys are up there 60 80 pound packs running around i got your amazing amazing i'm in awe of the job you do what a douchebag 40 clicks yeah yeah them damn mountains uh has this guy been in service at all? Joe Biden

CHAPTER 08 / 31 Discussion

Joe Biden's Granddaughter Story and Beached Whales

Joe Biden recounts a story about his granddaughter confusing Navy SEALs with whales. This leads to a discussion about a real-world event involving 13 pilot whales beaching themselves in Florida, which the hosts interpret as a potential warning sign for future events.

joe biden· granddaughter· whales· florida· navy seals

23:30 And then he comes out and he tells this stupid ass story about his granddaughter. Which lead, which by the way I think is leading into some something else. It's my job today my honor to talk a little bit of- It's my job? Yeah. I mean my honor oops! I forgot almost now. Good gaffe Joe. Oops it's my job to like you bring on man. About the man that I get to work with every day. Except when i'm on the train we just got to spend time with the assaulters who uh Assaulters that's interesting The assaulters. Yeah, the assaulters. Interesting term isn't it? Yeah and they keep using it they're trying to make that the term. Umm...uh got bin laden And uh... And the shots were just uhh wow yeah It's like people like in trance feel sorry for these. May I tell you a little story By the way

24:34 Shouldn't say this I'm gonna tell you I shouldn't say it Why not but you know what because he's going into overtime and Obama is like dude hurry up and get off the stage douche president can be mad. I've taken so long, but you know Today was quote grandfather's day so I went by early this morning before it came out here to my granddaughter's little spring play and after it's all over she said, Pop come back to my classroom with me. I said I can't honey. She says you going someplace in Air Force Two? Yeah I am babe. So where are ya goin'? I'm goin' up to Fort Campbell. We're gonna see the guys out there who got Osama Bin Laden. Absolutely true story

25:11 She said pop and she grabbed a little friend of hers. He said my pops going out to see the whales not the seals the whales as A true story Oh Brother, yeah I think we should thank some producers Yeah Let me just say one thing about the whales though because that's not a coincidence. I don't think 13 pilot whales beached in Florida Sorry more to like 20 Beach 13 dead the warning warning warning This is what happened in New Zealand warning warning warning when this happens something's gonna go down warning where was this, Florida? Warning morning nothing ever happened. It's in Florida Well I'm thinking the Gulf Coast

CHAPTER 09 / 31 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and No Agenda PR Initiatives

The hosts thank executive producers including Craig Peters and Carrie Shun, who promoted the show during a marathon in Linz, Austria. They also review various community-registered domain names like barackosama2012.com and shillbusiness.com that forward to the show's website.

vinyl rocket· craig peters· carrie shun· david dolson· domain names

25:59 Yeah, yeah warning. I'm just I'm just saying it right now that usually means some kind of natural air quotes Natural maybe that's why he said whales to trigger the so people take pay attention was the 33rd word in the paragraph You are so pissed off about your connection. I can tell So let's think if yeah, I'm not too happy about it Let's put it that way a couple of things we got AJ Reistat. We gotta hook him up first, don't we? Yeah but AJ... unless AJ was not mentioned as an executive producer because I read his note at the last show if you remember because it went on and on about the no agenda stickers website vinylrocket.com if you recall which is right off of AJ's note. I don't remember

26:50 You don't remember we were talking about the No Agender stickers website? The No Agender? www.vinylrocket.com slash NA to generate some income Did you say no agender? No agenda I think you did say that, didn't you After my knighthood and my plan blah blah blah he goes on about... He wants to be the baron of Spudlandia Oh maybe that's what he wanted to hear Okay so was he a 300 club member or not Yeah, yeah. I think he's listed though all right check check on the spreadsheet okay But that was you know we could give him another if you want to give him another do with the problem that we have is our pal From CKP creative right Craig oh Member of the 301 club it was gonna be a slow John hold on hold on bit hold on buddy You're breaking up your break enough now

27:46 This is not good. It's going to be quite some edging job, that's for sure. Yeah. Oh there you go. Wait am I breaking up? Yeah you were breaking up big time. Okay so CPK Creative... Yeah Craig Peters is the sole member of the 302 club he wanted to be a member of a club doing a slow show which is this show okay And so he's a member of the 302 club now, and an executive producer along with... I want to give one executive producership out to we have... This came in over through the mail. Carrie Shun in Munich She is the one who promised that she was going to give 10 bucks for every mile of the last marathon she ran Yeah Which was always 260-262 apparently

28:45 This time in Linz Austria. She thanks for helping me on the long runs Thanks for all the work you both do and thanks for not making me the listener of the product she donates 600 to 262 dollars But more interesting is she had a t-shirt made that on the back of the t-shirt It says I love with a heart no agenda show calm in the morning, and she explains which I, this is a PR credit thing. It's a great idea most of the time during a marathon you're just looking at the back of the person in front of you. That's a good point! So I had a running shirt made up for the race to spread the word about no agenda to fellow runners. Not as good as a bumper sticker toll boost, but anyone who passed me hopefully saw it and went directly download the show." I think that's a really good idea because you know especially if your like running and your behind someone you kind of get into a trance

29:43 I heart no agenda show calm in the morning in the morning and yeah, and you know that person or those people who were behind You will wake up five years from now still going. No, I love heart Noah gender show in the morning I think it's a good one. I like it. It was funny So, yeah I think it's a great idea. So David Endovander we have an associate executive producer David Dolson Sir David Dolson because we knighted him apparently We have so many knights now that we've knighted him twice Well i just read what's on the list okay You guys knighted me twice once on April 24th and again last Sunday What a bargain Yeah what a deal

30:25 Anyway, this donation is on behalf of Tamara Davis' girlfriend's daughter that listens to the show with me sometimes. She enjoys the catchy jingles especially the swine flu minute Oh wow! Should we play that one for her first? Hey now So please accept this donation toward her Dame-hood PS John's take on the Osama assassination was kick-ass you need to get the movie rights on that one nailed down now Yeah, right movie rights okay mm-hmm so we'll have some more donors mentioned at the break and but those are our executive producers for today show and

31:09 And if we don't have AJ listed for the previous show where he sent his money and we'll put him on this one as an executive producer. Well I do appreciate Craig Peters of CPK Creative, am i saying that right? It's CKP. Oops, CKP Creative so you will get another email from if we mess it up. CKPCreative.com Yes for coming in as a 302 club member because yes very very light week so far exactly. Dvorak.org slash and anything to do with the later on you can also make sure to go to know agenda nation dot com and as a big giant donation but you can click on it also by uh... various uh... items there's also store and that of the cut that we get from this story is quite good so we want to have thanks in p r initiatives that have been taking place uh... barack osama two thousand twelve dot com now forwarding to no agenda show dot com um... also

32:11 I guess these are kind of for Eric. We have shillbusiness.com, shillbusinessnews.com which i kinda like... shillbiz.com and shillbiznews.com Sir Pete putting all that together for us all of that forwarding to a no agenda show calm Oh Burma comm oh hb ur ma.com I'm sure that'll be handy in the future snake lips calm and digital dictatorship calm along with ordinary Liberty calm all these forwarding to our little website there No agenda show calm And let's see we have and then the one that you didn't like that much but I thought was pretty good was Obama dead laden.com or Obama dead Laden depending on how you want to pronounce it and We appreciate all of those initiatives, and of course stuff like the t-shirt is fantastic So everyone else out there who is in the chat room charged up and ready to go as a good human resource propagate the formula formula Is this? We go out we hit people in the mouth Oh

CHAPTER 10 / 31 Discussion

Pharmaceutical Industry Lobbying and Marijuana Legalization

Following a Larry King special on Alzheimer's, the hosts discuss the pharmaceutical industry's interest in the medical marijuana market. They suggest that Big Pharma is lobbying to become the sole legal distributor of cannabis while shutting down independent dispensaries in states like California and Colorado.

larry king· alzheimer's· marijuana· big pharma· colorado

33:20 Say it loud and proud, shut up, sleep! It was on too late for me last night. Larry King finally had his big Alzheimer's show Oh, I thought that was last Sunday. Maybe it was a repeat? I don't know. It had to be a repeat because it ran originally on a Sunday Did you see the thing at all or did you see the big Alzheimer's show? No, I forgot to watch it! I thought oh hey, I'll give ya little hot pockets there. Very good Yeah... All the meat..I saw like the first 20 minutes You know, it was on at 11 last night But uh.... I do not think there were any solutions Just an awareness thing

34:01 And so something must be coming. The pharmaceutical industry is really going nuts on trying to figure out what to do after all of these patents expire, and I think weed is the big one for them. That's starting to become really clear. Are you following some of the weed stuff? No tell me! We now have multiple states who have basically been saying, hey we're just going to make marijuana legal but the federales particularly in California once again they are cracking down on all the marijuana dispensaries and you know were seeing news now from multiple pharmaceutical companies. Hold on a second wait stop! What? That can't be true because Obama promised that would stop Yeah well it's not And Colorado had a medical marijuana bill

34:52 and looks like they're going to cancel that. Of course, Colorado is the seat of the shadow government there, the CIA and everyone's moved headquarters out there so that's not going to happen but I think what it is is that the pharmaceutical industry is lobbying hard inside Congress and the administration to let them be the sole distributors of the weed and get all the medical stuff off the streets and then you have to go to a doctor properly right? Not just I think I have glaucoma. I think i need a prescription." This is what I think is happening And that would make sense. We have a governor in Washington state who's killing the marijuana initiative up there, which probably grows a lot of it and she Greg War is her name She is just a horrible person and I believe that she would be obviously be in the pocket of pharmaceutical companies So I don't know why she gets elected. She's just terrible Well because you're not up there around voting time

35:53 You're down in San Francisco? She's not losing by one vote, I can tell you that right now. Okay... okay No but it-it-I've seen some notes here and there about big pharma thinking hey this is pretty good because basically you know it's real easy to make right It's not hard to grow it. You don't have to add anything. He's kind of like a weed Yeah he just had it growing outside of Bin Laden's compound Well, Bin Laden was a toker! I love that Dude Do you see the video that they were showing of him watching like the, you know, the 13-inch television? No. You didn't see this! This was like the biggest news They had a... I thought we're gonna drop this Bin Laden thing but it's not about bin laden It's about the funniest show on earth which is what's going on now This was on C-SPAN. Yeah they had a closed

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Pentagon Off-Camera Briefing and Anwar al-Awlaki

The Washington Times editor Bill Gertz reports on an off-camera Pentagon briefing regarding the death of Bin Laden and the rise of Anwar al-Awlaki. The hosts discuss the legality of the U.S. government targeting Al-Awlaki, an American citizen, with drone strikes in Yemen.

pentagon· bill gertz· anwar al-awlaki· drones· yemen

36:49 meeting of the press, non-televised because oh god forbid you know we like get some clips from it and this is where they showed you know they showed all got this mountain evidence and we've got to this video have been loud in there's some very interesting information here. This is from C-SPAN The Pentagon held an off-camera briefing for reporters with more details about the killing of Osama bin Laden by US forces. We're joined on the phone by one of the reporters who was in the room, The Washington Times National Security Editor Bill Gertz What kind of a transparency is this? An off camera non televised press conference... Why is that?

37:29 It's highly annoying. Bill, what did you find out? Lots of new information and a lot of new details are coming out. This was a briefing by a senior intelligence official who disclosed that there were lots of new information about Al-Qaeda They said that the group has been damaged by the death of Bin Laden but it remains a threat My own takeaway from the briefing was uh... al-qaeda is in its death throes of some twenty of their leaders have been killed over the past couple of years and now they're top leader is dead and when al qaeda made the announcement according to this official uh... they did not name a successor and there were also some details in there about how the number two al-qaeda leader iman al-zawahiri

38:20 is not popular with the group and appears not to be the person who will take over the leadership role. That is interesting because of course this guy's brainwashed I think when he walked into the Pentagon they had the big magnets... I'm getting some very new information here So the information we're getting from this is that Zavalver, what is his name? Zavakazavaver is not popular. He's not being chosen for dodgeball games by Al-Qaeda which can only mean one thing... That the new boogeyman is going to be our boy, al-Awlaki Oh that could be Yeah of course and you know the president tried to kill him

39:08 He shot a drone. No, he didn't try to kill him he's got an order to kill him I'm sorry...He ordered to kill him and they sent a drone to him in Yemen which we haven't done since 2002 And we missed apparently But we killed two other people it doesn't really matter Well he may be an asset We don't know that is really a... Yeah but that's not the point The point is he's an American citizen and hasn't been tried for anything and then just go shoot a drone up his butt Yeah, well I know it's a problem. Nobody seems to care You think? You think it's a problem?! I care! Well you're the only... me too but and Judge Napolitano we're the only three and maybe uh I don't even think Ron Paul cares

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Ron Paul and Republican Primary Debates

The hosts critique the framing of questions in the Republican primary debates, specifically an instance where Ron Paul was accused of advocating for heroin and cocaine. They argue the media intentionally misrepresents libertarian positions on bodily autonomy.

ron paul· republican debate· drug legalization· heroin· cocaine

39:55 Yeah, he probably does but he has other things to do. He's in debates that no one is watching and all the important stuff. Did you watch that by the way? I did! Tell me what happened because i didn't watch it. It was hilarious so first of all it was completely like a show now its not even a debate just a show and they got stupid questions and then they go down... By the way none of their candidates are actually interesting like Bachman or Trump these are people who want to see for this show But then they ask each candidate a question and they put these horrible words into their mouths like Ron Paul, I don't have the clip but this is Ron Paul. So you advocate heroin. And Ron Paul's like well that's not exactly what i said. You know but the government has no business telling you what you can put in your body or not thats up to you! The way the question is framed as you advocate heroin and cocaine See? I can talk about anything

40:55 And then they just disconnect John. Boy, this is like the old days! Like old school all of a sudden we're getting these disconnects that's awesome Don't make fun of the debates man So uh yeah That it funny though that they would do that Let me just continue with a little bit of this fantastic news because there's something very important we need to know. While we're talking with you, were showing some at the home video footage that was taken from Abbottabad Pakistan what did they say about these home videos and the way they identified Bin Laden? Yes this was part of what they said was the largest intelligence take from

CHAPTER 13 / 31 Discussion

Bin Laden Home Videos and Gray Beard Revelation

The Pentagon releases silent home video footage of Osama bin Laden watching himself on television in his Abbottabad compound. The hosts mock the media's fixation on the fact that Bin Laden's beard appeared gray in the unedited footage compared to his propaganda videos.

osama bin laden· abbottabad· home videos· propaganda· beard dye

41:34 a senior al-qaeda leader that has ever been since nine eleven uh... basically they were five videos of the first was a video that was a message to america from ben laden uh... they showed about a minute of video from that and did not release the audio other senior official said that we do not want to be in the position of replaying propaganda but it was non televised anyway And what was the point of just showing the video and not the audio to people? The guy could have been doing a review of Spiderman for all we know. Exactly! Hello, I'm Osama Bin Laden and i've seen Spiderman on Broadway. I must tell you it sucks. Bono get your shit together

42:26 You're right, that's probably what it was. They said that it was some time-worn themes of Al Qaeda If it was time worn how come you didn't let the free press listen to it? And their typical type of message There were two short videos showing outtakes of a prepared statement by bin Laden and then the most interesting Most interesting! John what could be the most interesting thing What could be the most interesting thing as this senior Security reporter from the Washington Times has been in a closed door non-televised press briefing at the Pentagon. What could the most interesting piece of information be? One was actually Ben Laden himself watching a small television monitor with video footage of himself and Ayman al-Zawahiri in a mountain place, video that has been shown many times but what was unique

43:20 Bin Laden's beard was completely gray. Wow! I'm amazed his beard was gray, John Well that's very interesting Meanwhile back at the ranch Play the Joy Behar clip This was taken from... From The Hannity Show How can this be funnier than C-SPAN and the gray beard? It's not funnier, it's just funnier on a different plane. If we use these enhanced techniques then they can use them on us so there is no international... They do use them! So it just encourages more of it around the world and then our soldiers have to endure it and then the other thing is that its possible that a six million dollar book deal would've worked just as well you know what I mean? There are other ways to get information out people pay them off who knows what would've worked

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Joy Behar's Bin Laden Book Deal Suggestion

A clip from Sean Hannity's show features Joy Behar suggesting that a $6 million book deal might have been a more effective way to get information from terrorists than waterboarding. The hosts dismiss the idea as naive and foolish.

joy behar· sean hannity· the view· book deal· 9-11

44:21 Maybe she forgot 9-11, the beheading of Danny Pearl and Nick Berg. You know what? I don't think bribing them with a book deal is actually going to make them like us. That's just my gut instinct. Sean, yeah, I don't say this lightly. I'm not trying to be pejorative about this. joy behard is an idiot i don't know how it's all of us but she isn't any at uh... let's see the cnc and sit down with a late sheet behind me to say okay guys we can waterboard you or we can give you six million dollars for a book deal all yet to do is pop up up in london and head over weight we're gonna put your opera what he's talking about

45:03 Yeah, I actually saw the original that was on The View when she said that. That was pretty funny! I loved it! She's an idiot! But this is... hey stop listening to our show and taking our lines! She's an idiot. You know the Oprah thing? So first of all, Oprah is failing and then I think The Wall Street Journal had a report about it in their Saturday Sunday edition which they still continue to give me for free thinking I'm going to fall into their trap and order it So they fired the CEO of own and so she's out because due to lackluster ratings now this replaced the discovery health channel

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Oprah Winfrey's OWN Network Ratings and Hillary Clinton

Oprah Winfrey's struggling OWN network is discussed following the firing of its CEO. To boost ratings, Oprah features a segment with Hillary Clinton and Julia Roberts discussing the political implications of changing hairstyles to distract from news cycles.

oprah winfrey· own network· hillary clinton· julia roberts· hair

45:45 It's a joint venture between Oprah and Discovery. The ratings now are worse than Discovery Health Channel was getting before they took it off the air. Have you looked at this? Yes, I watch it of course! Of course I'm very interested in it. It sucks! It blows if it was Oprah all the time... interesting so Oprah is winding down her regular show and this is destined to fail So she's pulling out all the stops Now if you had a call to make and you're Oprah, and you really want to get the ratings on. Who are you going to call? I don't know... Trump! Nooo! A woman it's gotta be a woman its Women's Network come on think logically

46:28 Britney Spears. No, you want to call... Gaga! No no you want to call Lucifer You want to get Hillary on? Hillary is a ratings bonanza. What the hell was gonna go turn out? Was she going give her own talk show? Ah I know but when you put her together with Julia Roberts all of a sudden it becomes very interesting Now Julia Roberts has a big Mother's Day show and she and Hilary got together to talk about hair Do you get tired of being asked about your hair? No, I mean because what would i do if I weren't. You said a great thing when you said that if you want to knock something off the front page you change your hairstyle. In the middle of the next big crisis whatever it is I'm cutting my hair

47:14 The next time we bomb some people and some brown people in the desert, I'm just gonna cut my hair. We have to be on the lookout for this John. They should have a soundtrack of a bunch of chickens cackling in the background. I'm just gonna cut my- Next time I kill someone in a desert? I'm just gonna cut my hair and no one will notice. Believe me! We won't be reading about whatever war is going on or... Whoever like- We wont' be reading about that! Look at it in my hair! It's so beautiful. Rather terrible thing You know, I think your hair is one of the best parts of your body because you can change it so easily. But every woman thinks oh my gosh if i were just this or just that and you know It gets...you just have to be happy with who you are but the one part of your body you can change is your hair No wonder Bill went for Monica My God! If had to listen to that at home like really woman? Are you kidding me?!

48:11 So I've never understood these people who say, okay you gotta pick a hairstyle and stick with it. How boring would that be? You have nice hair! Well thank you. Hey man i love your hair. Oh I love your hair too thank you. I love your hair. It's so beautiful. People always forget that Oprah took a shot at this some time ago which failed miserably with Paul Allen in the Oxygen Network. And that thing was a dog Well, she probably cashed in her chips really early and she's probably vested or whatever. She's got it. You know, she paid but now this is going nowhere But did she try and need a for effort? Yeah you bring Lucifer on with Julia Roberts I mean that's not bad stinks so she took Lucifer of course, you know because Lucifer

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Hillary Clinton's Situation Room Hand Gesture Explanation

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton explains that her famous hand-over-mouth gesture in the Situation Room photo was likely due to an "early spring allergic cough" rather than a reaction to the Bin Laden raid. The hosts express skepticism regarding this explanation.

hillary clinton· situation room· bin laden raid· allergy· cough

48:59 Lucifer Clinton, you know she can't be seen as a woman right? I mean that's just not possible. She is in a man's game so when questioned in Rome about her hand gesture in the so called situation room as they were playing Xbox 360 Yeah, of course we want to know. Were you in horror? Were you aghast? What was going on? Did you see the two shots to the head and a bullet hole in the eye? Why did you have your hand over your mouth Madam Secretary! With respect to your second question those were 38 of their most intense minutes I have no idea what any of us were looking at that particular millisecond when the picture was taken

49:44 I'm somewhat sheepishly concerned that it was my preventing one of my early spring allergic coughs. So, it may have no great meaning whatsoever." Oh okay well I'm glad you cleared that up Wow Well the news...I have to say the news was really dreadful this last over since the last show and to prove it I have a extra back-to real news And now back to real news Can we go right into it? And you know how we play clips from, we play the intro to Extra which has all the information everyone just in the teaser. Yes and it's always this obscure celebrity stuff that people have never heard of and it's like wow I mean your completely out of the loop on these characters This one sounds like for one thing they had to dredge up old timers and It just doesn't sound, this doesn't have the same life there is absolutely nothing going with Celebrity News

CHAPTER 17 / 31 Discussion

Extra Celebrity News and Mario Lopez

The hosts review a segment from the entertainment show Extra, hosted by Mario Lopez. They mock the trivial nature of celebrity news involving Jennifer Lopez, Johnny Depp, and Kirstie Alley during a week of major geopolitical events.

extra· mario lopez· jennifer lopez· johnny depp· alec baldwin

50:47 Extra, extra, extra! Extra, extra! JLo's back. You're home away from home now. Breaking idol news. Someone emerging do you think? Her new music with Lady Gaga her new reality show her live Idol reunion with Kia. Ben what up Jen our all-star surprise for Jen and how we just rocked her world Kirstie breaks news about her giant next move after dancing. I hear you're getting a lot of offers Johnny Depp's new extra one-on-one revealing his secret aliases Is it true that you have a nickname Mr. Stench? Enfrench Monsieur Poopy

51:28 All new Julia talks motherhood. Have you ever had a baby? Why she's teaming with Oprah to investigate America's moms I'm gonna lean this way you like that way okay, we're like this we're good Alec Baldwin giving me his plans after 30 rock and my news flash during the interview are you yes? Welcome back to X-Files, I'm Mario Lopez. Mario Lopez at the Grove everybody! Alec Baldwin? Kirstie Alley? Who cares?! There was some real celebrity news John that you must have missed First of all we all need to take our medicine Now remember when I told you that Eva Longoria and Emilio Estevez were in the White House

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Eva Longoria and White House Immigration PR

Actress Eva Longoria describes a meeting with President Obama intended to "reframe" the immigration conversation for the Latino community. The hosts characterize her as a "messenger" for the administration's political agenda and the DREAM Act.

eva longoria· barack obama· immigration reform· dream act· latino community

52:25 Yeah. In a closed door meeting? Right, right so she was at the United States Senate it's crazy when you see by the way and Eva Longoria is beautiful as you know she's like 5'1". She's very very tiny but she is stunningly beautiful just like ah! And that's but she should not be off script and she should not be answering questions from the press because she reveals way too much doth I thinketh And of course this is part of the entire push which we're hearing about right now Hillary Clinton with Julia Roberts, with Oprah. The whole idea is get more celebrities involved and that's how we start pushing the agenda onto the slaves and Eva Longoria has been recruited as a part of the MKUltra program and she is now in charge of telling the Latino...and you have to say it like that by the way...Latino

53:18 uh... slaves what to do recently met with president obama had to talk about immigration reform and i'm just interested in here what was discussed at the meeting and coming out of the meeting what you think is the best foot forward on that issue uh... yeah last yes last week we were um... asked to meet with President Obama. There's about 10 of us that are considered influential in the media, in hopes to reframe the immigration argument. Okay, reframe the immigration argument? Oh no! No I wasn't supposed to say that... Or the immigration conversation. Oh yes, the conversation. That's what we agreed on so stupid and

53:58 Maybe I should talk to someone else. We were It was like a brainstorming it was brainstorming That's right, I forgot it was brainstorming because there was like a storm in my head It felt like that was the MK ultra write these notes down and have them in front of magnetic waves Were jumbling my brains or had a storm in my brain Emilio was there Emilio was there? I remember that though And it was very beneficial to know what is happening, what are the roadblocks that he's been facing. The roadblocks he has been facing our Presidente! and how can we help? How can we be the messengers? We have to be the messengers right of what is being done and not being done It's going to be a long process

54:39 We have to hold accountable many people of Congress. Can you hear that she was brainwashed? I mean seriously, these are all the talking points that have been shoved into her beautiful head and she's just like uhhhhhhhhhh. And hopefully in 2012, hopefully the DREAM Act will come up before 2012 and those who do not support comprehensive immigration reform don't get to think of me naked and masturbate we'll hopefully pay for it in those elections. We're gonna make them pay! That's what we're hoping to do is aggregate the Latino audience to come out

55:21 and make their voices known as to what they want to see in immigration reform. And it was a very open conversation, we talked about secure communities program, we talked about deportations, we talked a lot about how the perception is with Latinos. Latinos? Do you hear that? Isn't that funny like her English is impeccable like Los Angeles and then all of sudden Latinos! It's like why does she do that? Is that like Montreal Yeah, it's like the Canadians. It's like they're talking in perfect English and they're talking this broken French and then they're back to the English but every that's the only word though it's like you know she could say... That's just an indicator that she's on some side of an argument I mean we had a guy Lloyd LaQuesta here KGO who used always say I'm Lloyd LaQuesta reporting from San Jose

56:12 And then it would always be like, every time he was in the... It's like, okay Lloyd. Latinos! And our frustrations so he had an open ear and he was listening to... He had very big open ears To all of us just talk about what is being perceived in the Latino community I think it was an important dialogue that we had and it has a dialogue that has to continue Right now there are people behind her going shut up shut up stop That's enough stop stop stop It's in our hands We have to continue putting pressure on this reform Mongolia also... Okay, so um to my brothers and sisters in the Latino community beware of what she's bringing you. Yeah it's doom and destruction well she can't be as bad as some people who are actually in Congress. Well no by the way if she ran for office she'd have my vote no doubt about it. I wouldn't vote for her. But you gotta hear this guy. Of course you would vote for her! I wouldn't vote for her Are you kidding me?

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Congressman Mel Watt's Questioning of Ben Bernanke

North Carolina Congressman Mel Watt is criticized for using his time during a Monetary Policy Subcommittee hearing to ask Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke about the economic impacts of climate change. The hosts label the line of questioning as irrelevant to the Fed's mandate.

mel watt· ben bernanke· climate change· monetary policy· north carolina

57:17 No, what do you mean am I kidding you? Because it would bring us so much entertainment. Nah she'd be like Frank in a couple of weeks and then he disappears. You get more the guys that I like to vote for... You talk about entertainment? Listen to Mel Watt! Now this guy was the Democrat from North Carolina that I consider him now to be the dumbest or the worst congressman ever. The guy can't say three words in a row without going, uh...uh.... Now he's the former chair of the Monetary Policy Subcommittee. He's got Bernanke in front of him and this is what he comes up with. Chair recognizes the gentleman from North Carolina Mr. Watt for five minutes Thank you Mr Chairman and thank you chairman Bernanke for being here

58:09 Chairman Bernanke, you know and I'm sure the folks at the Fed know that he's from the South. He is from the state of dumb. As chair of the Monetary Policy Subcommittee for the last couple of years, I gained a healthy respect for the work that you all were doing and I think that you all did a great job to get us to where we are today. They have five minutes, don't they? Is that kind of the deal? This guy uses the five minutes up on one question! This is kinda what you do when you didn't do your homework and you're not well...

59:01 And I want to applaud the work of your staff on that front. I think your dog did a fine job, too. My questions today really want to go outside the box a little bit because I have some concerns about things further down the road that could be difficult economic, fiscal social... Okay stop stop stop. Now I could do an Ask Adam here and out of the blue he's got Bernanke He is a former Finance Committee chairman believe it or not can you imagine? He has got a question for Bernanke what specific what do you think it might be about? The question

59:57 Yeah, would he talk about the deficit? Would he talk about the problem getting loans from banks. I think you will ask why pirates have knives in their teeth. You're getting closer to our economy and my question is to what extent are you all doing things in these areas, studying or looking down the road to anticipate some of these issues.

1:00:35 Okay, so before this hearing Bernanke went up and said hey just tee it up for me. Okay? Just see it up just you know just drag the clock out Just tee it up for me So I can just tell you what the program is I mean isn't that exactly what screw all these guys no What no it's not what happens It gets better yeah there are two of them that I want to To talk about One is climate change, which from all indications is going to result in dramatic weather swings at the extremes.

1:01:20 that will have devastating impacts on the economy economically, that make New Orleans look like a swimming pool. Small potatoes on the coast in the West and in the Gulf. That's great let's give him a biodiversity. It goes on and on with this climate change theory and Bernanke is going what do I got to do with it? That's fantastic. The guy is an idiot! Yes, yeah he is I love it though There are no one umms there always um-um Yeah hello everybody At least he's not like that Wow You're right and he's North Carolina believe right? Yeah sorry feel so sorry for North Carolina too This bad wow Let me see...there a couple of things

CHAPTER 20 / 31 Discussion

Fox News "Lone Wolf" and "Web Savvy" Terrorist Memes

The hosts analyze a Fox News segment featuring Michelle Bachman that introduces the "New Al-Qaeda" branding. They identify several media memes being pushed, including the threat of "web savvy" American-born terrorists and "lone wolf" attackers.

fox news· michelle bachman· lone wolf· web savvy· anwar al-awlaki

1:02:22 Before we go into thanking people, and since it's a kind of shorter list today I did want to...I just can't resist. I have to play this Fox News piece which is the meme-fest of all meme fests Which is the reason why I'm calling myself The Loner Can you bear with me and listen to the uh, the lone wolf clip? Or are you just so sick and tired of Al Qaeda that- As long as I don't have to keep listening to that sound effect. But it's my new theme! It's my new thing! Wherever I get my ringtone... When you hit my website You know, just go to curry dot com. I want to be known- It doesn't even sound like a wolf. It sounds like some guy trying to sound like a wolf. No, no, that's a real lone wolf

1:03:14 Anyway, okay. I won't play that anymore. You have to use have to be different We have to focus on the intelligence committee community we have to focus on it This is Michelle Bachman by the way interrogation Yeah, listen. ...woman that's Congresswoman Michelle Bachman on the next battle in the war on terror... Terra? Terra? Squat! And already there are concerns that radical imam... Wadical do you hear this she's like a wadical terra. Anwar al-Awlaki could be Al Qaeda's new leading face. Ah okay yeah let's bring in someone some expert to tell us about this. Yemeni American was... What are the qualifications of being Al Qaedas new face John

1:03:52 Do you know what the qualifications are? It has to be in the memo. Yes, that's part one but you need some other things You need some other qualifications and this expert will tell us Born in New Mexico in 1971 Okay born America yeah we can play that He lived both Britain and the US I've lived in Britain and the U.S yes Here at home he worked as a imam And according to reports he is suspected terrorist on CIA capture or kill kill squalor terrorist in the eighties the former deputy assistant to be vice president for national security affairs good morning sri aides hello good morning okay so michelle bachman was talking about the new tactics needed to fight the new al-qaeda let's talk about it's the new al qaeda john just so you know there's a rebranding taking place hill and all ten are in its the new al-qaeda everybody you ready for the new al-qaeda is this and knew group now that then laden is dead

1:04:42 Well this group has existed for some time. This radical imam is someone who was born in the United States as you noted, he's familiar with our airport security systems He's familiar with aviation? I'm on this checklist! I've got every single one so far including the Imam thing. He's web savvy fluid WEB SAVVY There you go. He's web savvy. He is particularly focused on attacking the United States by way of using foreigners and Muslim Americans. Foreigners! He is tied to the Christmas Day attack, and also the Fort Hood shooting so he has been active for some time in an interesting way it really this Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula group that has been more active than Osama Bin Laden and his ilk in recent years they are not terribly new but very dangerous

1:05:31 Does Al-Awlaki have the sort of power and following that Ben Laden did? He's a rock star and he is web savvy. Well, I think what is important to remember in all of these groups Is that there is violent ideology that drives them That they use to recruit It predates Bin Laden it predate Al Qaeda And so really that is what helps them organize What helps them recruit and gets people committed To kill themselves on the way toward killing Americans and other targets So yes, he will have those tools available He has tools to under recruit. He is, as I said web savvy and is recruiting people even in the United States to be his assets to conduct attacks. How do you think he's recruiting me John? It could happen! And so what keeps national security types like yourself awake at night? Is it Anwar al-Awlaki or is it the lone wolf homegrown terrorist back here

1:06:22 Well, I don't think that anybody can really sleep well. What show is this? I didn't hear you earlier. Fox. What are we playing here?! This is a bunch of propagandistic bullcrap! That's why I'm playing it so you can see what the memes are! I told you it was a meme fest! This is the whole point... But what is it that were listening to? Fox! It's just Fox News! Oh brother.... Yeah but this is important because these are the memes The New Al Qaeda Web Savvy American Homegrown Lone Wolf It's all in one This is pathetic. This is worse than MSNBC! Yeah, hard to believe I like the web savvy though thing though...I think that really does it for me your web savvy and you just listen to this guy come on this is important to understand and I'll never talk about it again until they arrest me. Tonight that they have the whole map of the threats against us mastered It's really quite an overwhelming brief that the president and his national security staff get every morning

1:07:17 If you remember 9-11, it wasn't Osama Bin Laden himself that boarded the planes. Thanks for the reminder douche! He sent other people and so we can have our focus on these individuals where they are what they're communicating but we have to watch a whole host of other faces that we might not necessarily know until operation is conducted And obviously we've heard this for a long time since 9-11 that one of the things that's changed with Al Qaeda, the new Al Qaeda is they're no longer so intent on large scale dramatic attacks like what we saw with 9-11. If they were just to find some amenable lone wolves here who could simultaneously go out with guns

1:07:56 It might cause similar fear. That's definitely true, it could cause similar fear I mean if you recall at the time of 9-11 we had somewhat simultaneously the fear a sniper running around the nation's capital area and just couldn't know for a long time that created a lot of fear and terror in itself But I think the key point is we don't really know how large of an attack these men are planning. They could be testing our systems with minor attacks in order to launch a major attack over time. With the counter-terrorism portfolio, political leaders have to treat it as if it's nitroglycerin. You can't have a mission accomplished moment in any of these tactical victories because you never know when the next shoe may drop."

1:08:39 We have a graphic now, sort of a murderer's row if you will of the newest faces of Al-Qaeda and it is hard to see but some of the most interesting notable ones there are obviously Anwar al-Awlaki and Adam Ghaddan another American. How do you explain these two? Well, I mean people of all stripes are susceptible to recruitment and these kinds of things. Uh...I think that uh there's a widespread disenchantment in some quarters United States There is actually a virulent ideology in the United States that seems to hate our government and hate our people. Ah! Hate the government? And I don't fully understand psychology about how someone could make that full conversion but it's very real that there are this weak human beings and weak psyches out their be recruited by this evil doers. There you go

CHAPTER 21 / 31 Discussion

Donation Segment and Gitmo Nation National Anthem

The hosts solicit donations ahead of the predicted May 21st rapture, offering "karma" in exchange for support. The segment concludes with the playing of the Gitmo Nation National Anthem for a new donor from Russia, Vladimir Stashkov.

rapture· karma· gitmo nation· national anthem· vladimir stashkov

1:09:23 So I think we fit the bill, John. Weak psyches? Weak psyches and people who've turned the corner to become lone wolves recruited and we're Americans and we're web savvy! Well that would describe you since you call yourself The Lone Wolf. Aaaaaahhhh! Gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, they'd be fab Yeah on NO AGENDA So we have a few donors, not too many. We were waiting for a fall off and I think this qualifies. You know we could be pushing a little harder since on the 21st of May the date of the rapture

1:10:13 We're all gonna die, so I figure why don't you send us your cash now? Yeah because otherwise it's just yeah. Because you might be pulled if it's a rapture day If you think you're going to be dragged to heaven unceremoniously which is what will happen You just get yanked right out of here. Yeah! I mean somebody's...I mean you might as well send us some donations and become an executive producer kind of in absentia. Yeah exactly It's you know, you don't even have to write a will or testament or anything. Yeah it wouldn't hurt. You could use a couple of little memories. What show would that be? 305, 306... I think yeah what are we today is the 8th 9 10 11 something like that 305. Yeah 305 club

1:10:56 You know, the Doomsday Club. The Doomsday Club! So you can donate $5 and 21 cents? $52 and 10 cents or five hundred and twenty one dollars I think 521 right we're hoping somebody gives us uh... donates it helps us contributes to support the show yes exactly Jorn Pannenberg in uh... the Netherlands in Holland needs some karma he sent us a hundred fifty-five dollars and he needs some karma for his apartment hunt You've got karma. He's actually from Koudekerk aan de Rijn, which is a lovely town. Is that on the river? Yes on the Rhine River. So Van Dyck... it wasn't Van Dyke van Rijn was that the same thing? Rembrandt van Rijn

1:11:49 I Everyone had to go and register. And the Dutch at the time weren't the subservient slaves that they are now, and they all went like oh yeah really well okay...and they all made up these crazy names like I'm a you know the guy was The Carpenter, I'm Pete Carpenter okay Pete Carpenter. I'm Tom Baker okay Tom Baker but there were some crazy ones like poopitoutyourbutt.com okay poop it out your butt so there are some crazy names in Holland

1:12:28 And a lot of it is son, you know like Jansson would be Jan's son. So that's where all these crazy names came from the re-registration when Napoleon came through There are some funny ones and people have had to change those over the years because they're not quite so funny couple hundred years later Yeah well I enjoy trying to pronounce them Let see Itis... How do you think we'd pronounce this? Eidishmira It is Shmira. Bicker, I think? Yeah she's from Aruba She's from Aruba! Aruba everybody yeah remember um they were the when i was in Bonaire we did this show from bonaire uh... i think she was actually in bonaire at the time and as she and her boyfriend or husband were listening. My dear boyfriend is turning twenty-eighth on the eleventh of may he has been a listener for some time although he has never donated this calls for a live douche bag

1:13:23 His name is Robert Crows from Bonaire. We've been mentioned once in the show and that got me the best girlfriend ever fame frame frame for a frame This is the best girlfriend ever you should get your mug that says that or do love this show our t-shirt am I? And from my part, I really appreciate the job You guys doing it really feel bad when you say this show as has that little donation, that little donation came in and perhaps not a lot of people are listening. No they're listening but they're not donating. They're boners not donors I for one can rarely listen live due to work but you know i can't even listen live today yeah but I do listen to the shows just only a few days later and she goes on and on and says uh... the money is almost double my currency am NOT part of the new world order so my funds are limited

1:14:14 And hopefully we can buy a piece of cake with the donation. Yes! It says, Robert Crows pick up the phone douchebag! Alright so we'll make sure that uh... We will put him on the birthday list Thank you Mike Potter Lake St Louis Missouri $111.11 he needs some karma for safe and profitable year of concrete contracting You've got karma. Again, you guys are keeping me sane while working 14 to 16 hour days. Can you please give a big douchebag shout out to all the idiot human resources out there? Douchebags! I have quickly realized that if the quality of people I deal with on a daily basis is an accurate reflection in our society we are doomed You know whenever John and I have a conversation outside this show which is very very rare it's usually like this

1:15:22 Hey, we're screwed. And then John will say I think we were always screwed and i'll say yeah but We weren't broke then he says Yeah that's true so there you go So that's a fascinating it's a fact of fascinating conversation But Joran Zesic or zZac uh... zee e s s a c k i think it's pure not bejeweled you'll do what is that an actual but the ornabeau and your in your name hamburg fifty at doomed euros for a time to answer how many cookies could have good cook cook if a good cook cooked cooked cooked cooked missed it let me try it how many cookies could a good cook cook of a good could could

1:16:03 That's hard, isn't it? Yeah. It's because of the cook could cook Let me let me try that I'm from North Carolina How many cookies um Hello everybody how many cookies could a good cook cook if a good cook could cook couldn't cook cookies hello everybody And then there's a follow-up which is, A good cook could cook as much cookies as a good cook who could cook cookies. I can get that part All right what's the point? $69 donation from Bjorn Thank you Bjorn in Hamburg one of the great cities of Deutschland Vladimir Stashkov 5555 My name is Vadekir Stashkov or Stoshkov maybe Vladimir Vladimir What'd I say Doesn't matter it wasn't right

1:17:00 Oh well, that's just... I am from Gitmo Nation Vodka! Kimura ovo so far away you'll click on a link in Google Maps and you'll see that I'm really in the middle of the river Huge fan and proud list of no agenda shows since February 10. I want to thank you and say it is true Not only as your show has great entertainment value but also enormous educational value because you're learning English's idea by the way We need to promote the idea Because I ran into this in Spain A bunch of people that were our fans were actually people that wanted to listen to the show just took So they could hear something in English That wasn't annoying That's a good point and if you have family overseas, perhaps in the Latino community. You could just give them a copy of No Agenda Show and they'd learn all about the country they're going to come into illegally Exactly because if your learning how to do English is

1:17:49 I do either need to listen to some douchebag on a radio or douche bag on TV. Not much of a difference, so i'm very glad that I can listen to you! I now consider myself the donor not a boner but still and very unfortunate were uncomfortable with my giving level. I wish they give you guys more right now trying to move to Gitmo Nation beer and spicy sausages to study there... That would be in autumn. In the meantime like it's karma It wouldn't be too much I'd like to hear that Gitmo nation national anthem gives me chills Should we play that for him? Uh... Yeah, sure. Okay let me give him some karma first then You've got karma Alright Vladimir! You are now officially a citizen of Gitmo Nation Ladies and gentlemen please rise for your Gitmo Nation National Anthem And you may sing along if you know the words In the morning Gitmo nation We are all charged up to be

1:18:45 Human resources and servants in all lands and all ships at sea. From the east to west, down under to the lowlands and beyond! We are happy and distracted slaves In our hypnonation song. In the morning Can you imagine like say 5,000 years from now and some archaeologist is digging things up and they run into that song and think it's actually a...

CHAPTER 22 / 31 Discussion

Mother's Day Tributes and Final Donor Credits

In honor of Mother's Day, the hosts offer karma to all mothers and stepmothers. They continue reading donor notes from listeners in the UK, Germany, and the United States, emphasizing the importance of the value-for-value model.

mother's day· stepmoms· bjorn· david middlebrook· raleigh hawk

1:19:27 It's the truth. The theme? Yeah, well there are going to be books written about us John in 5,000 years Daniel Hutner Murphys California double nickels on a dime 5510 Scott Olson San Diego California double nickels on a dime I was broken donated $11 and 11 cents recently hoping for some no agenda karma to rub off and help me out it worked let me have an official shot of karma keep up with the great work get love this show you've got Karma that's funny now Bjorn is back and Bjorn is back with another 50 so I'm not absolutely sure what that's all about. Well he says sorry for the tongue twister oh, I blame the demon drink David, so he sent us another fifty actually as an apology to humiliate us yeah for making us do that and David Middlebrook in Aberdeenshire

1:20:23 UK 50 and Remco van Dyck is that right? Yeah, Van Dyck. He would be the guy who was living on the dyke yeah living on the dyke or whatever of the dyke yeah or whatever exactly I'd like to donate five dollars a month in this month they put an extra fifty thank you for the show keep us aware using PayPal mobile application. Well, that's nice and by the way if anyone has money left in their PayPal account please think about donating it to the show. And Raleigh Hawk lastly from Anna Illinois another $50. And we always have great appreciation for people who support the show with five dollars a month or eleven-eleven months or any amount because you can kind of keep it open ended

1:21:06 And from time to time I like to just pull something up from the lower giving levels. This is from Nick Bethel Collins who's in Kings College in London, living there in The International Hall. In the morning from Gitmo Nation East have only been listening to this show since December 2010 but felt compelled to donate to keep the fascist Debronies at bay a For my first year exams, would also like to call my brother Alex in Spain out as a douchebag for never donating to you gurus. Thanks a million! Consider the formula propagated." So this is for... Alex and then for all of our $5 donors You've got some karma. Karma Yes I got one more then let's be mainly because this is so funny One of our Lord Donors Seth Whoops come back Yeah I could hear it happening throughout the entire donation segment

1:22:21 We'll wait for it to disconnect. Welcome back! Can you hear me now? I can hear you now. Well anyway, I would just say Seth Griffin says he's shacking up with his girlfriend who is also a fan and they could use some karma. Oh absolutely. You've got karma And something very important, Miss Mickey just walked in and how can we be such incredible douchebags John? Well that's easy because this is a day when we think a little different than many people. Karma to all the moms in the world! That was what Miss Mickey wanted to say. Give her a karma shout out. She got karma to all moms whether they are here on earth or whether they're in a better dimension that the douchebaggery we have here. Mom's here you go! All mom's in the world!

1:23:09 Karma. Hell yeah! And I want to thank Mickey for being a great stepmom. Yes, that's a call out to all the mothers who listen to this show. Yes and I want to thank Mickey for being a great stepmom not an evil one so there you go. Evil stepmoms... Stepmom just it's gotten a bad connotation. It's got a bad ring to it doesn't it? My step mom. Yeah because there are too many evil step moms But step moms is just a technical term right Is there better term than stepmom? Disney has ruined step-mommery. Don't you think? Probably, yeah

1:23:46 Anyway, we appreciate moms first of all and we really appreciate everyone who's been helping out on the show Low today that was kind to be expected. I think a lot of people shot some wad there in the 300 Club But please recharge and reward our way particularly for 521 We have the 333 club on the way And and rent is also due so please help us out you know where to do that vorac org Slash n a and of course you can also if you can't get to that for some unexplicable reason then you can always go to channel the board comm slash na or Go to no agenda nation calm and click on the big-ass donate button

CHAPTER 23 / 31 Discussion

Sajid Khan's "Pig Table Manners" Question at the Newseum

A clip from a Newseum event features a man named Sajid Khan asking a metaphorical question about teaching a pig table manners. The hosts discuss the bizarre nature of the interaction and Khan's claims of having quantified the human mind.

sajid khan· newseum· wisdom· emotional intelligence· pakistan

1:24:28 It's your birthday, birthday On Noah's agenda Real quick one simple one today and she really wants him to give her a call Edishmira Becker says happy birthday to my boyfriend Robert Cross. He'll be turning 28 on May 11 Happy Birthday from Edishmira They're in Gitmo Nation close to Venezuela where we drink polar beer And from your buddies here at the NO Agenda Show. Hello everybody! So now is that, was that you or? I was wondering what you were... now that was a recording. I'm practicing and figure the more i hear it then with the better I can get Yeah well you already got that part down as to bits the extension that's more problematic. No, I'm working on it. Okay well here see I have a clip here mm-hmm that I don't remember what it is great but says idiotic question its gotta be good

1:25:27 Please can I ask you to tell us who you are? Yeah, my name is Sajid Khan. I have a research foundation... Okay hold on stop stop stop now remember so this is a uh... they had to do that i was watching c span as we do so you know and there isn't there's an event at the new zealand about yes citizen journalism in we know the museum is a front for some rather and all their was bob woodward there coincidentally yes spy and they were they were talking to some pakistani uh... journalists who had nothing good to say about being a journalist in pakistan saying if he said anything now at all about for example the army they would just basically take out and shoot you. In fact, play if you want to stay alive so it's a prelude to the idiotic question. Hold on second I caught me off guard if you wanna stay alive. Tape the incident put online we would not be able to talk about an incident like that even though many of us knew that this was going on in Pakistan but you don't critique the Pakistan Army If you wanna stay alive

1:26:26 OK, so what this is obviously is a prelude because you know what you need in any country. You need to have no freedom of the press, no Internet killing people with chemical weapons and massacres and then we had then we have done the Americans have to go in and kill you Yeah, well we'll see. So anyway so this guy this Indian guy comes up and asks the most idiotic question he just basically comes out to promote himself and I thought it was so interesting that question wasn't vetted in the whole thing it just was...I just thought this was something oddly funny about this guy because you can just imagine have a serious little panel and then this guy comes up and does this Please can ask you to tell us who you are? My name is Sajid Khan I have a research foundation

1:27:11 And I have actually figured out wisdom, believe it or not. If you just Google Wisdom by Sajid Khan on Google you'll see that I have 4,000 pages of it. I have two books but my main question to everybody here is can you teach a pig table manners? I think there's apparently there is a Howard Stern in India and he is like, hey this will be very funny if you go to America and you ask her pick up table manners at 10am. Sir I want to ask you? What's the question? I think this is metaphorical question. Can you teach a pig table manners? Let me ask another question

1:28:03 Suppose you have brass, can you expect gold qualities from brass? So what your saying is it depends upon the question your really asking is that it depends on the basic material you begin with. Yes! What can you make? The main thing is whether its corruption or freedom of the press anything If a person's mind, I've quantified the mind also by the way. Minus two minus one plus one and plus two if a mind is minus 2 can you expect a minus-2 to behave as plus 2? Yeah it can be done The only solution is emotional intelligence education A compulsory subject Thank You! I think this question here is legitimate question and the question is about...

1:28:49 This is Sheila McVicker, or whatever. CBS correspondent. This is not a legitimate question this guy is a maniac he shouldn't even let him speak get him off the stage! He's crazy does he finish? You got one you got two you got three can a three and a two make a four? I think so...you know it's sad because um the guy is obviously brilliant Oh yeah. He just can't quite get it out right, he's having trouble communicating What we have here is a failure to communicate I saw a great commercial for Target which is about one of these aspirational things So John you and I often fantasize about advising big companies because we'd be great at it

CHAPTER 24 / 31 Discussion

Target Pharmacy Vaccination Commercial Analysis

The hosts analyze a Target pharmacy commercial that uses echo effects to emphasize the phrase "free vaccinations for all." They suggest the ad is designed to subconsciously prime the audience for medical compliance.

target· pharmacy· vaccinations· flu shots· advertising

1:29:39 Oh yeah, it would. So you know you want to like ask we want kids to aspire to becoming target pharmacists because it's a great... There are more than one of these commercials Yeah well this is the one that I saw and there was a meme in here that just freaked me out I'm a curious seeker My chemistry aficionado Diphenhydromine Magnesium hydroxide Athlete's foot Yes! I am people pleaser If elected, I promise flu shots for all. I'm a walking medical dictionary. Congratulations Virginia! Inflamed uvula... I'm Virginia. I'm a Target pharmacist and iIm here to answer your questions And I'm here to give free vaccinations to all Yeah I like the way they slipped that one in With a lot of echo It's the only thing you can actually hear

1:30:37 Well there's a couple spots where I didn't understand a word she said. No, it is not important the only thing you're supposed to hear is the free vaccinations for all Well, on the topic of advertising. Yes? You know you can always... we say this on the show but you can always tell what the core audience is for a TV show or radio show whatever. You can kind of reverse engineer who they're targeting to turn them into the product which we talk about too. You can kinda figure it out in reverse engineering by listening to what ads they play and so here's one that I guess apparently

CHAPTER 25 / 31 Discussion

Senior Living Advertisements on Rush Limbaugh

An advertisement for assisted living facilities aired during the Rush Limbaugh show is discussed. The hosts suggest the ad targets baby boomers who are looking for reasons to move their elderly parents into professional care facilities.

rush limbaugh· senior living· assisted living· baby boomers· advertising

1:31:14 core audience for Rush Limbaugh. And now Fred, an octogenarian who will be watching TV from his chair all day long! Later he'll eat a cold sandwich... How well is your dad getting along? An assisted living residence can offer things like medical care, three hot meals a day organized trips or just someone to watch TV with. Costa Newport elegant senior living at Costa Mesa no it's not home in so many ways it's better So let me ask you John as you are watching that or as you hear this commercial come by do you not realize that its pretty wrong that they're advertising this to you?

1:31:58 Are you not concerned? This is an ad. No, this to me says that the target market and I believe this is true of Rush Limbaugh's show are people that are so callous that they immediately want to find any excuse to get their parents into an old folks home Oh, that's a good point So actually it may be for like baby boomers kind of little over end-of middle age Yeah, they got a bunch of parents that are 90 and they're sick of them hanging around the house. I'm just seeing nothing but pharma ads everywhere. That and Yo Play. That's all I see everywhere. It's like lose weight poop it out then get all kinds of drugs. I don't see anything else on television yet. The pharmaceutical business is definitely carrying the economy. Yeah that's a good way to put it

CHAPTER 26 / 31 Discussion

Greece Debt Crisis and Potential Euro Exit

The hosts discuss rumors of Greece potentially dropping the Euro and returning to the Drachma due to unsustainable debt. They argue that the country was misled by bankers and is now facing the consequences of a flawed currency union.

greece· euro· drachma· debt restructuring· bankers

1:32:47 I do see a lot of, some car ads but that's about it. So it looks like this, I don't know if you talked about this with Horowitz but looks like Greece actually there is some talk and there are some backroom dealings that there is actual discussion of them dropping out of the euro as their debt has to be restructured because...so guess here what happened They got screwed by the bankers, then they had to go borrow some money and say yeah we're good for it. And then of course they weren't good for it. And they lied on their application. They lied on the application and now they can't like make the payments so why don't we just stop this Euro thing? Do you think that's true do you think they'll actually do it is a possible? I think every country should drop the euro but do you think its actually going to happen

1:33:38 I think it might, but there'd be some plan. It would be a very complicated deal. I don't know how they're going to do it but they could do it And they go back to the drachma? Is that what is was? I think it was the drachma yeah... I have some of those in my wallet somewhere Well hold on to them Hey, remember I was talking about Mark Grossman on the last show? Yes you were talking about Mark Grossman on the last show. Right so...I can't believe that i'd forgotten this is the guy that uh..remember the FBI translator who was in an interview with The American Magazine and her name was Siebel something or other, Siebel Edmonds

CHAPTER 27 / 31 Discussion

Marc Grossman's Role as Special Envoy

The appointment of Marc Grossman as a special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan is criticized. The hosts reference past allegations from FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds and Grossman's alleged involvement in the Valerie Plame leak.

marc grossman· hillary clinton· sibel edmonds· valerie plame· pakistan

1:34:20 This is, we're talking like two years ago maybe and I remember this because you and i were both discussing this outside the MeVeo offices. And this was the guy who got kicked out of Turkey when he was special envoy because of some big scandal of him receiving cash money in return for nuclear secrets and stuff so this guy by Hillary Clinton good old Lucifer uh... was just recently You know, it's like one of the highest ranking officials in the State Department became the special envoy. What is that? Special Envoy? It's like a vice president. Means nothing except... It's an administrative assistant Right Well he was the special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan And people who are awake There is too much to go into with this guy

1:35:08 But he really was instrumental in outing Valerie Plame because he had some written notes, which of course you're not supposed to do and he dropped them here and there. This guy is a total and utter douchebag! And he's working for Lucifer now I can't believe that the Obama administration will let this happen To bring a douche bag like this back in and no one is talking about it No one I guess i should look into it. I'm surprised you haven't, under elite in the show notes...I'll send you these links John because that's hard for you and you're not so web savvy but this guy is a dick really he is really a frightening individual and he's a spy apparently although not convicted as such but he's been passing on nuclear secrets You don't want this guy negotiating behind closed doors with Pakistan

CHAPTER 28 / 31 Discussion

See Something Say Something Act and Civil Immunity

The Senate Homeland Security Committee discusses the "See Something, Say Something Act" (House Resolution 495). The hosts express alarm over provisions that provide civil immunity to individuals who report "suspicious activity," comparing the policy to neighborhood surveillance in authoritarian regimes like Cuba.

janet napolitano· joe lieberman· house resolution 495· immunity· terrorism

1:36:01 And it's working for Hillary. This is bad news and no one is on this, nobody! So maybe it's something more to it than we think. Yeah, yeah could be. Well I'll tell you I've got a piece of footage here that is...I think maybe give you a little chill which is the recent hearing under Lieberman's committee on Homeland Security and this is Senate Committee course so you don't have with the Senate Committee that's where Lucy Napolitano will show up and then she has her underlings go to the House committees. And by the way, I could have had a bunch of clips where these senators are falling all over themselves. Oh Ms. Napolitano it's so nice that you would come! We think the job your doing is fantastic we love you! We realize that your taking time out of your busy schedule because you're so busy protecting the homeland, das Hinterland

1:36:57 So there's a little tidbit I picked up. Play the see something say something clip and tell me if you can figure out what the tidbit is? And we continue to look for other ways but we're really going to focus on what is the local law and how can we empower local law enforcement in particular, to prevent a lone wolf from being successful Thank you. Let me just say that I was very pleased to hear you mention the See Something Say Something campaign, the chairman and I had to work so hard to get that through when it came to the transportation sector

1:37:34 Without the Chairman's willingness to stand up against many on his own side of the aisle, we never would have. So I hope your comments mean that you will endorse the broader bill that the Chairman and I have introduced which would provide immunity from civil lawsuits to individuals who in good faith report suspicious activity to the authorities. They would not be protected if they were not in good faith because right now, the law that we wrote only applies to the transportation sector I'd be happy to look at that Senator Thank you

1:38:18 And if I see something... If you see something, say something. Yeah this is about House Resolution 495 the See Something Say Something Act Play the rest of it because there's a..you'll like it. Something else says something Wait a minute let me just roll it back a second I'm sorry sometimes you leave a little tail on the clip but didn't realize that was it. Sector? I'd be happy to look at that Senator thank you And if I see something, I'll say something. I only supported Senator Collins' proposal because it happens to be right. Yes! Larry Lieberman. Yeah so there's a... this is chilling

1:39:07 So in other words, so all you out there with the poison pen letters ready. Yep go ahead. Let's turn in your neighbor! You don't have to worry about getting sued anymore! Section 890 immunity for reports of suspected terrorist activity and when I say terrorist I mean SQUIRREL or suspicious behavior and response this is here we go I've got it right here again House Resolution 495 In general any person who in good faith and based on objectively reasonable suspicion, makes or causes to be made a voluntary report of covered activity to an authorized official shall be immune from civil liability under federal state and local law for such report. Now false reports shall not apply to any report that the person knew to be false was made with reckless disregard for the truth at the time that the person made the report

1:40:08 Jesus Christ, I'm sorry. Didn't mean to take the Lord's name in vain but this is so bad. Wouldn't that be the case without the law? No... Yes! Yeah of course it would because it's slander. So like bullcrap this thing has just designed another shield beyond a shield laws to shield your creepy neighbor from ah you know he didn't leave the house in two days says he's doing some sort of a podcast. It's pretty suspicious if you ask me." Well, let me know... Let's be specific John because I did the research on this and i'm glad you brought it up. Covered activity First of all what is an authorized official? So if you need to report remember its all under the office... If you see something say something The term covered activity means any suspicious... I am sorry Authorized Official Any officer employee or agent of the federal government

1:40:56 with responsibility for preventing, protecting against disrupting or responding to a covered activity or any federal state or local law enforcement officer. So I guess a bus driver qualifies as well right? Haven't they been asked to protect us Yeah, and a mailman so you can say yeah the mailman is gonna be looking at your mail now Tommy to mail man. Yeah covered activity the term covered activity means any suspicious transaction Activity or occurrence indicating that an individual may be engaging or preparing to engage pre-crime in a violation of law relating to an act of terrorism. And this, of course is as defined by section 308 title 18 of the United States Code I think John it's valuable for you and i take a look at that section 3077 title 18 of the United States code What does this bull crap? Come on link here we go You know GovTrack.us blows chunks

1:42:00 They pop up some thing. So you... Well, it's a .us It's not official Well that's.. Is that not official? No its not official I don't know, I could have a dot us domain But its like I can't get to the link now all of sudden What the hell is that And by the way your reading from the house bill they're talking about the senate bill which im sure is exactly the same Right but I dont think thats been published yet has it? Uh no their working on it They probably... I dont know what taking them so long Here we go. Here's 3077 def- the act of terrorism means an active domestic or international terrorism is defined as section 2331 So you got to go like step, thank God for the web An alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence that's an active terror Any employee or contractor sole proprietorship corporation blah blah blah blah You know what anything did you breathe hey terror terrorist and terrorist activity

1:43:03 Yeah, this is bad. This is really bad so this is... People are gonna be charged like you know people are going to get arrested in the park for taking a long late walk and everything else yeah he's very suspicious. He has a funny jacket on he's wearing a cloak! Yeah he's got a cloak yeah yeah he's doing that podcast You know, he looks kind of disheveled sometimes. Yeah this is like Cuba! This is when I was a kid in school we used to talk about this, oh those Cubans are terrible they have their kids that turn in their parents and then they're parents think on their neighbors it's a terrible terrible place because everyone's thinking on each other and so now we've made it official we're doing the same so we were Cuba

1:43:47 Yeah, there you go. Except... Cuba in the 50s with less cool farts? Not exactly because we have catchy jingles! I'm telling you, The Jeff Smith's or Jeff, We should sell that to Homeland Security. I think it would be great on their website. Why wouldn't just have it at the end of all those commercials?! Yeah, I mean it actually sounds like something we lifted from the government. You watch! We're gonna get an offer. What do you think it's worth? 50 grand to $50K? Well we have a whole campaign behind us and ideas... And we have a study research. No, I think is worth $50K.

CHAPTER 29 / 31 Discussion

Lobster Selection Tips from C-SPAN

A C-SPAN interview with a lobster expert provides tips on selecting the best meat. The expert recommends "shedders" or soft-shell lobsters over the more common hard-shell variety, claiming the meat is sweeter and easier to access.

lobster· c-span· hard shell· soft shell· shedders

1:44:37 One last thing I thought I'd mention which is that you know people always complain that we don't do enough discussion about food, wine and all the rest of it. I do have a clip called Lobster Expertise which is again from C-SPAN They're interviewing some lobster woman who they're asking if you go to a restaurant, how do you pick a lobster? When's the best time to get it. Is there any tips that you can give us from an expert point of view and here it is. When you go into a restaurant to order a lobster what's the worst time? pound for pound or dollar for pound, you're better off eating a hard shell lobster I think in the winter time. It's more expensive then. Lobsters are more expensive because they're less abundant because of weather and seasons there aren't as many people fishing so it is more expensive but the lobster is really packed into the shell so your getting more for your money personally I prefer shedders, I like the soft shell lobster

1:45:32 If I'm eating them, which would be at home. I wouldn't eat one in a restaurant because I make it real mess. Um...I'd rather eat three or four shedders than one hard shell any day. I think the meat is sweeter they're easier to get into you don't need all these tools. Tools? Nobody right nobody i've ever heard ever say this they always talk about the hard shell lobster I mean, I know soft-shell crab. I never even heard about a soft shell lobster. No it's not really a soft shell, its just the softer... when the crab or in their lobster... I don't know what it does, it drops its old...I don't know what it does but whatever is beginning to form a new body

1:46:09 It's kind of nobody wants those because they're not good. They're not compresses a lot of water in them I don't know all I know is that you always want the hard shell ones But she says just the opposite and I thought that was interesting for people out there who know? I don't know what a shutter is, but I guess it's like a new Lobster, I don't know shutters yes shutters That's um that's uh hotel lives on Santa my Santa Monica shutters I'm sure that's where the name came from. That was my, there is my gourmet tip of the month and I don't even know what it means So let me ask you a question because uh...the most emailed and this has been going on for awhile but really kicked into high gear this past week every day i get at least four or five emails about bitcoin

CHAPTER 30 / 31 Discussion

Bitcoin Peer-to-Peer Currency and Beanz.com Comparison

The hosts discuss the rising popularity of Bitcoin, expressing skepticism about its utility and security. They compare it to failed late-90s digital currencies like Beanz and question whether it is a "red herring" designed to lead society toward a cashless system.

bitcoin· peer-to-peer· currency· beanz.com· whoopi goldberg

1:46:55 You getting these Bitcoin? No, I haven't gotten any. I don't know what you're talking about bitcoin org look at it right now so Bitcoin is this virtual of virtual peer-to-peer currency and A lot of people are really jacked up about it And and I don't understand well kind of understand how it works, and so I'm sorry I thought that you would have definitely have read about this could we be getting those emails I see you copied on them For four months, but it's really kicked into high gear recently. So there must be on some kind of campaign or they're probably getting close to the idea is It's this currency that is peer-to-peer and so there's no banks involved But I don't understand

1:47:35 Exactly. I mean, isn't that subject? Isn't all currency like this subject to inflation? People are saying you guys should start taking donations in Bitcoin. I'm like why exactly? I'm like can I eat with bitcoin? Can I pay the rent with bitcoin? Apparently you can there's some storable food guys who take bitcoin currency But I mean it's still pegged to you know, do you still have to buy it? That's supposed to be converted from the dollar and yeah sounds like it It's a you know. I've never been a bit. I mean that especially somebody like you at gold I know this is why I'm not not into it and people go like crazy You already have gold on one level then we move up to specie which is paper money And now you're taking it one more step into like I'm not virtual nothing. No, I'm not

1:48:21 I'm questioning. It's abhorrent that you would be promoting this Adam. Hey, shut up Dvorak! I'm not promoting anything. I'm asking you a question. I can barely hear you that's the problem the connection so bad I misunderstood yeah hello everybody yeah exactly no I'm not promoting it at you or that they're recording? I'm not promoting it I'm questioning why people are all hyped-up about this and honestly I think it's bad I think it's a really bad idea what's funny about it is that I maybe have been not looking at the email but i don't remember it. Bitcoin dot org Eric DeShill says its fishy yeah, I think its fishy too! I think its a red herring and people are falling into this peer to peer trap oh this is great but I dont think its great I think someone's gonna make a bundle off of this Someone's gonna make a lot of dough off of this thing

1:49:12 Back in the day, you know I do understand the idea and it's a philosophical conversation about money You know you could use sticks. You could use rice It would represent something so you know you could say well I'm gonna buy this goat from you for 20 grains of rice And then the guy could take twenty grains of rice and he could go buy something else with it because it was just a barter system With with a measurement in the middle that I under if it's that then it might be something but It doesn't sound like it to me. Not if it's all peer-to-peer, can I go to Monterey Foods and buy some zucchini with the Bitcoin value? I don't think so! Well this is the point... If you look at bitcoin.org they have vendors and that's what I went as okay well what can I buy with Bitcoin? Food, can I buy food with Bitcoin

1:50:05 Merchants is what you want to look at and no, you can't. You can buy like server hosting okay? It's like alright Server hosting but I want food if I have to eat and here we go consumable so we have chess sites games gambling sites file sharing music that's all virtual stuff Bitcoin makes perfect sense for that But how about here, consumable. What can we eat with Bitcoin? Coffee, special coffee for mail order. Herbs extracts and seeds We can get some sugar wedding cake sugar Where are you looking if you go to bitcoin.org And then you want to click on sites that accept bitcoin You see that this reminds me of beans by the way is thing called B E N Z

1:51:06 Which was something I think whoopie goldberg was behind. There were two of these, there's beans and jume... Something with a J? There were two of these just in the late 90s. There are two of these phony baloney systems that both failed. I don't remember that You don't remember Beanz? B-E-N, B-E-E-N Z. You can look it up. I'm looking now... No i don't remember that If I google Whoopi Goldberg Beanz I get Whoopi Goldberg in Mercedes Benz Well Beanz she may have been the other one there was two of these She may have been the other one but if you go to just beanz dot com There's a Wikipedia has got an entry on It died in 2001 according to their register

1:51:51 Beans calm, but the other one is sorry for gave a similar to beans But had a different name and I think whoopie was involved with one of the or she was advertising for one Of the two of them see. I do like the idea of just using some kind of virtual currency as a As a measurement for trading stuff and I can totally see that working online For buying online your virtual services Or you know it's not like something you go pick up at the market but we can't be accepting Bitcoin to eat Unless you want to have that but I think this is also encouraging the electronic, you know getting rid of all money Yeah it is You know so we can easily attract you slaves. Yeah Well, that's no no This is the red herring is because its peer-to-peer and it's not you know There's no central authority and bloody body but you get yeah It's a myth Hey John we can get car detailing well, I could always use some card detailing. Yeah

1:52:48 Wait a minute, can I get car detailing with real money too? Yeah you can. Do i get a better deal with the beans? Does the guy give me a discount because I used them? I don't think so. There's a Polish... The very first polish shop accepting... They're called BTCs muffler dot PL It's in Polish No wonder I can't read it. So, in other words the answer to the queries is no we're not going into beans or bits of coins We're not getting into beans Not a good idea at all my goodness Gimel Nation lowlands I just want to say a big shout out to the slaves there and the flat lands as The Uber Lords have now come out with cameras

CHAPTER 31 / 31 Discussion

Mississippi River Flooding and Show Outro

The show concludes with a look at the historic flooding of the Mississippi River and the Army Corps of Engineers' decision to blow up levees. The hosts sign off while acknowledging John's ongoing technical struggles with his Comcast connection.

mississippi river· flooding· brian williams· memphis· comcast

1:54:36 I don't know why it's turning into such a fascist dictatorship. And then finally, I think i was just one week too early. I predict on the last show we're going to have a national disaster some form of natural disaster and by the way since we have millions of acres of farmland being flooded on purpose in the south that the army corps engineers are blowing up levees why isn't the president visiting those farmers? Why is he down there? Why isn't he saying hi everybody and hey sorry about this really sucks Why isn't he saying that? Why isn't he going down there, why is there nothing about this. Nothing nothing nothing Well Brian Williams predicts what's gonna happen Now we have to turn to the Midwest We think this story is gonna occupy a lot of our time and attention next week It has already been an awful flooding season If you live in Memphis or the surrounding area All eyes now are on that Mississippi River They are looking for perhaps the second highest crest

1:55:36 in US history perhaps in the next five days NBC's Ron Mott is in Memphis on some hallowed ground there in that city. Ron, good evening So that's what going to be occupying our time next week Brian Williams predicts it Well at least they gave us a heads up so we can look for By the way if this was George Bush administration and he didn't show up down there They'd be giving him nothing but grief Because he hates black people Yeah, he hates black people Maybe Obama hates black people I think he does. from the administration is going down there to just hold these people's hands or whatever. Yeah, they were totally wiped out in Alabama yeah well I mean you know he did go down briefly for the tornado victims but this is like the army corps of engineers is blowing up stuff and purposely states tried to sue the government and say no you can't do this and they lost! The judge threw it out

1:56:41 Nothing, not a single word about it. No instead let's go talk about whales with O'Biden I don't know the whole thing is just bugging me So uh...I would say since we have these beached pilot whales in Florida- I believe it's on the west coast of Florida Uh..I'd say look for some quote natural disaster Remember the 16th is national level exercise FEMA will be conveniently in the area So y'all might want to consider moving to higher ground. Five days in advance of the 21st? That's right, we're all gonna die! Well not everybody a lot of people are going to be dragged up to heaven against their will or you know maybe voluntarily or happily

1:57:24 And they should at least help us out by going to noagendanation.com Or dvorak.org slash NA I'm really sorry John, I commend your veracity for hanging in there I know you could probably barely understand anything and it was hardly noticeable how irritated you actually are about it all So why don't you tweet at Comcast cares and tell them they are douchebags Well, I'll be working on it for the... hopefully we will have a connection by Thursday or by Tuesday even. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in the morning. I'm Adam Curry And here I am on a cable modem getting 0.7

1:58:11 Megabits per second in northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C Dvorak We'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on no agenda