Obama's Clutch Car

00:00 This show is terrible! These people should be ashamed of themselves! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, April 21st, 2011, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 297. This is no agenda. Suffering from the Skynet attacks in the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gimel Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California in the morning I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley we're trying to get this show underway I'm John C. Dvorak Yeah, I'm sick. You're sick of what? I know I'm sick. I'm ill

00:39 Why? Well, why? Because I didn't take my vaccine shots apparently. You have the flu? Yeah. Oh, you know it's the flu? Yeah. Yeah. Did you take some of those... you don't even take the antivirals? I mean, I do. I take them. I mean, it's not like I'm not dying yet, but it's... I'll pop a bunch of... Bennies. You're popping Bennies over there. Tamiflu or Relenza. No, but it's I don't know if it's swine flu yet. What difference does it make it's all the same. Yeah. Oh, yeah, why flu so I got I Got that I got the headache. I got the fever. I got the You know the chills Gucci Gucci, man. Yeah, I got the sore throat. I got the drippy nose and Mickey has the sounds like a cold if you got a sore throat

01:31 Yeah, no, it's a could be you could have mononucleosis yay according to the Terminator 2 movie Skynet went into effect on April 19th 2011 and people started dying from it on April 21st I'm just saying hey in the morning to all the human resources there in the chat room, but no agenda stream calm no agenda chat net and All boots on the ground and ships at sea. And feet in the air. Yeah, I confused you, I can tell.

02:09 Well, John. Can I say something up front so we can get this? Because people, you know, last couple of shows we've gotten weird openings and I don't know if people are want to put up with it. But let me just say something. I want to be early on this one because you're going to hear the pundits saying it's probably within the next few months. I think Obama, by starting this campaign so early, And essentially quitting his job to run again? Yeah, it's a big mistake. I think it's a big mistake and I think he's going to talk himself out. Well yeah, wasn't that the whole point? I'm gonna talk him so he's gonna be so and he's gonna be he's gonna be overanalyzed everything He said I mean what do we got here for today's show? I mean he was over at Facebook yakking away I totally ignored all of that if you don't mind, but I have the clip okay, what of the Facebook? Videos I wasn't there I would they showed it on they had the whole Facebook event on C-SPAN and

03:07 Oh, okay. I was just ill. I was focusing on other things. They have a big sign in the back, Facebook. And did you notice this? This is the thing that got me the most. Besides the fact this is a big promotion for Facebook. No kidding. Story after story after story said this is the first presidential visit of Facebook. This is the first time a president has ever visited Facebook. Yeah. There was no Facebook in the previous presidency. Yeah, it's the first time. Some ER people have decided to create a meme That the president should visit Facebook for publicity purposes. This is a pretty cool scheme, but why is the media buying into it and not questioning the first visit?

03:53 Well John do I really have to answer that by now? I Rhetorically do it. Yeah, the media is a bunch of jerk-offs and they why would they notice so? Hit me with some clips here from this wonderful thing for those of you who missed this first time ever worldwide event and And just need to keep up with everybody and at least you can have a sound bite in the back of your head to say Yeah, yeah, I saw it. Yeah, I saw it What do you got? What do you got John? What do you got? Let me uh... You have your clips numbered today. Well here's the... let me just give you a little... This is new. This is... Well, I've decided... What happened? I've decided a couple of things. One is that I had a lot of clips and I've decided...

04:36 that the problem we would have noticed the show goes like this yeah why were i got this clip of uh... jennifer house he did and i say and they hate it you know you're like looking through the clinton is this one is it that all happens sometimes usually i'm having your you're discounting how how nicely flows i'd say ninety percent of time it flows but then ten percent is worth numbering yeah okay well it's worth numbering when i have this many clips the a u you kind of overcompensated So now that's why we're gonna number them probably from now on I think it's a way to do it and I've also noticed a limbo Hey, play clip 22. Oh, that's it. Alright, so this is what you're gonna start barking numbers at me now? Alright. Alright, what number do I queue up for you, John? 20? Okay, let me play the one clip that I think is amusing for a number of reasons, which is the Obama... the clip 10, which is Obama... I really hate that. I really don't want you to do that. Do not say clip 10. No, it's annoying. Already I hate it.

05:39 Okay, well then if you can just say Obama, just talk, you know, I can figure it out. I'm not an idiot. Okay. I'm not a Russian board monkey. Now, Obama and the clutch car. And if you start seeing investors feel uncertain about the future. then they could pull back right at the time when the economy is taking off. So you're right that it's tricky. Folks around here are used to the hills in San Francisco and if you've driven, I don't know if they still have clutch cars around here. Anybody ever driven a clutch car? You know, I mean, you got to sort of tap. Well, that's sort of what we've faced in terms of the economy.

06:27 Right? We've got to hit the accelerator, but we've got to also make sure that we don't gun it. We can't let the car slip backwards. He made this one up himself because he sucks at explaining this fantastic analogy. Hey, have you ever heard anyone use the word clutch car? No. It's a stick shift. Yeah, yeah exactly. Or a standard as we used to call it. Standard would be a good way but a stick shift. But clutch car? And then he asks do they still exist? What is this guy? How isolated from the world is he? Yeah. So he asked, he said do they still have these things? Everyone went crazy. You could hear the room go, clutch car? Is that like a golf cart or what is that? Maybe that's what it is for him. Well you know where they use the word clutch car. No.

07:19 Africa. Oh, you're kidding me. No, I'm just... I am kidding you. It's a joke. I thought it would be true. I was like, that makes total sense. Africa. You know, because of the birth certificate thing. It was a gag. Yeah, you're in a great mood. I'm sick. You're irked about the numbers. You're sick. All right. Anyway. Maybe I just misunderstood the joke. No, the joke was that he was born in Africa, so he would use an African term to refer to these cars. Right, but then you said it's not true.

07:57 It's not. I don't know if it's true or not. That's the joke. It was a joke. I'm totally, I'm, well, I'm totally believing it. I'm like clutch car. That sounds like something they'd say in Africa. I'm like, believe it. I'm like, no, they don't talk like that in Africa. I can't do an African voice. Oh boy, we're off to a rocky start people. Hey, you gotta carry it for me here. I'm okay. So anyway down here this meeting totally sucks and Zuckerberg is doing the meeting. Yeah, he does. Did he do like the Q&A or what?

08:38 Really? So he's doing the Q&A and he's now referred to as Mark by the president so now he's going to lord it over everybody. I'm on a first name basis with Obama. It's the first time a US president has called a Facebook CEO by his first name. He also has a shit eating grin on his face the whole time. Zuckerberg? Yeah of course. Yeah he's loving this man. I mean let's be honest, it's pretty cool for him. I get it. You know, he just came out with a statement, you know, maybe there's too much freedom of speech on Facebook. We should kind of rein that in a little bit. You know, Barack comes over. Hey Barack, hey Mark. Hey, how you doing everybody? Hey Mark, maybe you should like start reining that in a little bit, that free speech there on the Facebooks. You read that, I saw you tweet it actually. Yep, so Obama makes, like I said, he's going to talk himself out.

09:35 and he made two weird comments about health care, because he was bragging about that being so great, even though it's gone completely off the track. And play the one, this clip, Obama on medicine idiotic comment. A large chunk of our provider system is not automated. So what ends up happening is you may go to your primary care physician, He does some basic tests, he sees something of concern. He has to say something. He refers you to a specialist. You go to the specialist, he'll do another test. You're getting charged, or your insurance company is getting charged, for both those tests. As opposed to the test that was taken by your primary care physician being emailed to the specialist. What? Or, better yet, if it turns out that there may be three or four specialists involved,

10:42 Because it's a difficult diagnosis. This is all hypothetical you look very healthy but Let's say there were a bunch of specialists What would be ideal would be if you get all the specialists? Together with the primary care physician the first time you're seen so that you're not paying for multiple visits as well as multiple tests was there a smoke coming out of his ears when he was trying to explain this because you hear this last thing he just said yeah, I So you're gonna go, wait a minute, you're gonna have four guys in the room somehow if you can get an appointment. I can't see my dermatologist, it's a three-month waiting time, let alone some specialist for whatever he's talking about. So you're going to get four people in the room but you're only gonna pay for one visit, is that what he's saying?

11:28 Now, one, assuming you could get the four people to be at the same meeting, and he says it's your first meeting by the way, so you're going to have to kind of... It's the team kickoff. It's the steering meeting. You have to predict what you have to have the specialist. And of course you don't get a specialist until the doctor recommends one. So this is an impossible situation to begin with. Has this guy ever been to the doctor? No, the doctor comes to him. Play that last part again and tell me if it makes any bit of sense whatsoever. I'd already dumped it. Hold on. Really? Yeah. Really? Yeah, you're taking me for granted. I'm not taking you for granted. Hold on. Play the last thing. It's called diagnosis. This is all hypothetical. You look very healthy. But let's say there were a bunch of specialists. What would be ideal would be if you get all the specialists

12:20 together with a primary care physician the first time you're seen so that you're not paying for multiple visits as well as multiple tests. So you got to take your clutch car. So how does this work? Take your clutch car over to the doctors and tell me you want her to round up everybody in the neighborhood. Your team is ready for you. We're all waiting here. What a crock of crap. I mean, who does he kid? Okay, so he goes, this never ends, these crazy ideas. Does this guy even, has this guy ever been in the real world? Play the second clip. So what we want to do is to start changing how folks are reimbursed. Let's take a hospital. We want to give, this is sort of like Race to the Top, what Mark was talking about in education. We want to be able to say to a hospital, if you do a really good job reducing infection rates in hospital, which kill tens of thousands of people across America every year, and are a huge cause for readmission rates, and we know that hospitals can drastically reduce those reinfection rates just by simple protocols of

13:26 you know how employees are washing their hands, how they're moving from room to room and so forth. There are hospitals who've done it. If we can say to a hospital, you'll get a bonus for that. Medicare will reimburse you for instituting these simple procedures. That saves the whole system money. That's great. They're going to pay people to wash their hands? Yeah, that's great. And I mean of course, knowing the way the world works, They're gonna say, you know, if you institute these procedures, we're gonna give you extra money. What do you think's gonna happen? They're gonna fill out some forms. Yeah, we did. I washed my hands. I washed my hands. Give me some money. Mommy, look, look, look, don't they look clean? Smell, sniff my finger, mommy. Meanwhile, while no one was looking, the true killer in our society was reported on, John. Can you guess what kills more people than guns in America?

14:22 Smoking. The descriptions are alarming. Prescription drug abuse is an epidemic in this country. And they're warranted, said the nation's drug czar today. The number of people who have overdosed on prescription drugs now exceeds the number of people who have died as a result of gunshot wounds. Yay! Let's get rid of prescription drugs then. What is the point of this? Well, it's, I believe it's, well it's all about Oxycontin. So it's, I think the idea here is we've got too much of the legal stuff out there. Get back on the H kids. Get back on the heroin. Because we got a whole shipment coming in from Afghanistan. That's the only thing I could think of. There's a couple, I had a couple of

15:08 I had a clip that I would like somebody to deconstruct for me. I can't figure out why this clip is floating around. The illegal workers advertisement. I'm watching this. This is a Santa Barbara station playing this and so there's probably some illegals in the area, I'm sure. But this advertisement is from some operation I've never heard of and I haven't really gotten started to look into it. I just picked this up last night. But it's like the weirdest ad I've ever seen. It's an ad against legal immigration. Now that so many Californians are out of work, attention is turning to the millions of illegal workers in the state. It's about time. But what about these workers? Legal foreign workers.

15:49 One million legal immigrants and temporary workers our government admits every year. They take good jobs in places like California. No matter how many Californians are out of work, or how ill the economy gets, we need to slow legal immigration. So California is working again. Paid for by Californians for population stabilization. Ooh, I like that! Why don't we just come out and say, kill them? Population stabilization. Wow, that's harsh. That's what I thought. I've only seen this thing once. I'm from the Population Stabilization Bureau, ma'am. Excuse me, do you have any Mexicans in here? Any Puerto Ricans? Any kind of Cans, ma'am? Let me just see. I'm sorry, we'll have to take this one with us. This one is legal. We've got to shoot this one.

16:33 This one's not, this one's too small, we gotta throw it back. It doesn't make any difference if they're legal or anyone's doing it. Legal ones. I know! That's what I said, it's a legal one. You're legal, you're illegal, you're both coming with me. We got a legal one. You go in the left cell. That's pretty unbelievable. Hey, try to explain something to me, John. Is the United States of America a corporation? Not that I know of. But wait a minute, this is a trick question. Go ahead. No, not really. Why are we treated like a corporation? Why do we get rated by standards and poor's who are a rating agency with a rating like Microsoft? They rate

17:14 anyone who has a debt instruments. They're not rating the country, they're rating the instruments. These were the guys that said, oh you know AIG, AAA. Yeah, no I know they were wrong and everybody knows and that's one of the arguments against you know whatever they do but they're There's something politically involved with what you're going to talk about, which is the fact that they've threatened to drop our AAA rating. Right. Well, no, they've already turned us to Outlook Negative. It's like they've got an eight ball there. Outlook not so good. So that's not an actual downgrade, but it's like a thing. Why don't you know, I'm thinking, why don't we just do it? Why don't we just take the whole country public, give everybody some stock,

18:04 You want to see people turn around and do some stuff? Why don't we just actually just everyone gets a share and then we take the whole thing public And then we IPO like crazy, we're all rich. That would be an IPO. It would be like it would have to be like the value of the country, I think, which has been calculated. I'm sure you can count. Well, it's like 15 trillion or 20 trillion dollars is what we're worth. Well, you have to look at more. You have to look at, you know, forward looking earnings. You have to look at ROI. Yeah, exactly. I mean, so we know that each human resource from cradle to grave is valued at nine point one million dollars. The government's already done that for us.

18:40 We got to 330 of us million 330 million. Yeah, so there you go. We're like 33 trillion yeah, we're like 30 40 trillion dollars. That's reasonable. Maybe is that more maybe? Yeah, no, it's I think it'd be trillion, but then we'd own it we'd own ourselves and then you yeah, we could boss ourselves around Hey, hey back to work. Yeah, that would way. Are you legal? I have to reduce you I Well if you're gonna do that then you could, I could buy your shares, I could buy you out. That's right, you could buy me out. Then what would you be? You'd be a person without a country. No, I'd be a slave. But at least I'd know I'd be one. Yeah, you'd be a slave. It's just something to think about. Well for nine million dollars, if that's what you're worth, if somebody gave me nine million dollars to boss me around, I'd probably take it. Yeah, but you're not worth nine million anymore. You're down to like the single digits. Down to the dregs.

19:38 Am I an annuity? Don't you remember we had this whole conversation where they came out and said the valuation of the human life in the United States is now 9.1 million dollars. That's what you're worth when you're born. And in fact, I think we actually are collateral in that way for our T-bills. It wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, well then if the country goes, they just start shuffling, okay you guys, you're getting in this boat, you're heading to China. China owns you now. Yeah, well you better learn some Chinese son, because you're going. Well before we go on with this, I think we should thank our executive producers and... Yes, yes. Now we're almost at the 300 Club now. Yeah, I know, it's gonna be next Sunday, right?

20:27 Not this Sunday, but the Sunday after this one. Yes, correct. So we have a show on Sunday that'll be... Which is Easter Sunday if I'm not mistaken. No, no, no. Which means we'll have nobody listening. No, Easter Sunday is this coming Sunday. That's what I mean. This Sunday nobody will be listening. But that won't be... No, this Sunday will not be episode 300. No, I never said that. I said this Sunday is Easter Sunday. Oh, no one will listen and no one will donate is what you're saying. Yes. Yeah, okay, I gotcha. We should probably just do a... I would like executive producer credit on show 297 which is this one. This is Charlie Hendricks son in Reelsville, Indiana just up the street from Naubone.

21:05 I'd like to executive credit and 297 like that number as well as the 300 club I could I get some which is the case you get an executive producers credit yep but I don't do we yeah I guess the credit yep I like it I need some karma first daughter who just turned a year old his wife who just had an emergency knee surgery and his new business ventures oh my goodness lonely pop some at you right now my friend Charlie Henry you've got karma He needed some karma, man. I also can't believe that you guys... I can't believe that you guys have missed one obvious number. 33. We're such losers. 33. That was a while back. This year was the centennial anniversary of the Indianapolis 500 on 5-29-2-11. The traditional 11 rows of 33 cars will take the green flag at the start of the most historic race ever.

21:54 you guys are doing your road trip I'll get you in to our company suite at the track for practice qualifying or the race. Oh really? So um... He's got a hmmm... You know I wouldn't mind, I'd fly back there for that. Let me tell you, all of a sudden Sir Greg Birch popped up and he says you know if you have no luck getting an RV which so far I've had let me think pretty much zero luck Except for our marine friend, but he you know he's right by the way. I can't we can't drive this 30 36 footer That's crazy. It's like it's like a Boeing. It's not that hard to do no no no no He says there's so much you got to think of you know That's not for the first-timers, and I think he's right

22:41 Sir Greg has a what he calls the no agenda urban assault RV. It's a GMC Birchman have you ever sorry Birch Haven? Have you ever seen these? No built in the mid to late 70s It's just imagine it's perfect now. It needs some work. No, what's the deal? Hold on a second? Let me need some work. What's it called? GMC Birch Haven It's like classic. It has a little shower. Greg only bought it because it's got his name in it. Well, no, his grandfather actually made it. He built it. Yeah, he built this one and he built the Birch patented screen door. You see it's pretty big. It's 25 foot. It's serious, but it's like that's like doable and it's cool looking though, isn't it?

23:28 Yes, very is very old-fashioned streamliner type exactly now. There's a couple things wrong with it So I kind of kind of it's like like the drive train and the brakes and stuff so we got we got to Think through this a little bit, but I have to say this type of vehicle I think is definitely what we should go for it's kind of like the the love peace and happiness bus. It's still pretty big Oh, no, it's very big it but it's perfect. Although the births are six feet in length. That's that's a problem Yeah, well, any one of these RVs is a problem for two, you know, people that are 6'5". Careful, careful. You're 6'1".

24:08 Six almost six two. Yeah, okay. Yeah, well I know but I like to sleep with my feet hanging off the end of the bed really Really? Yeah, you big hairy feet hanging off the end of the bed. They go hairy hair It's to scare people when they're sorry visual visual bad visual anyway working on that still looking for something that actually runs I I just I'm sorry I just cracked up. I you got medicine to this link, but he's so sweet He's like you know I always have this I'm like being I'm worried because his grandfather literally like built this one I don't know that's gonna freak me out. I want something good what go did I just sent you a link to a photo that you have to put in the show notes this is the what you're gonna end up with

25:00 uh... on the day of the fact that the whole of the firehouse and is it does is that it is the birch havens and i a softest thing to do before machine and we talk about it now the birch and this is a one this is a melissa was in the in the images and gallery i'm sorry if i are fox needs to talk to windows for that's cool I Drive that you think it's a Photoshop job or is real. I think it's real we should send to our artists It could be a nice cover art perfect perfect, okay? Anyway, so it's in the making and but it's really gonna happen and and the great thing was miss Mickey went oh

25:39 I'll totally ride in that. That's okay. No, it's a good looking. It's a good looking It's a classic. It's a class. Those things are still on the road. Oh, yeah. No, there's a whole That would be another stipulation club of them. Yes, I would have to drive by some GMC Club Day if we did like I just want to make sure it runs, but it sounds kind of like you know there was quite a list of stuff That's not quite right Yeah, but it's beautiful that people are offering that and and I don't want to sound like a Ungracious, but I'm still open for other opportunities. Yes as it were but I mean I'm this is I this going to the Indianapolis 500 race. Oh, that's perfect. We'd be dynamite So oh you also want to go to no agenda tour calm and Stick a pin on the map. We hadn't looked at it in a while and we brought it up yesterday. Holy moly. I

26:35 That thing, like, it's like the map of the United States and there's red pins everywhere. What does that got to do with, I mean, what is it? That's where our listeners, uh, where they live, recommend to come and visit, yeah. Oh, oh, okay. Yeah, you have a lot of free food. Okay, Daniel Foster in Maynardsville, Tennessee. First time donation, which is nice. He needs a de-douching because of that. Okay. You've been de-douched. He's completely addicted to the show. It happens. And he's actually in Knoxville, Tennessee, which by the way is a beautiful little town. They got some of the best barbecue, Carolina-style barbecue pulled pork sandwiches in the world. Dave Rederer, and also the University of Tennessee if I'm not mistaken. Evergreen, Colorado. Dave Rederer, in the morning to you. I'm just working my way towards knighthood. One more to go. Yay! And we throw in the extra pay.

27:30 Before 2300 that concludes we had a short week. Thanks for spring break that concludes our executive producer list for a show 297 hmm so a reminder that you have two more shows to get in on the 300 Club where you become so if you are member of the 300 Club in a in one of the remaining two episodes you not only get the executive producer credit for that episode but also on the 300 Club which will be quite a list and Actually, how many do we have like 20 maybe I don't know Eric would know He's listening, but it's an exclusive club. That's for sure and well No one came in for the two nine or seven club, which is kind of interesting But of course you can always become a member of the two nine or eight club But I expect everyone who might as well just go for the 300 because you get your double credit there We highly appreciate it couple of PR mentions that I'd like to skim through some good Domain name forwards which are being forwarded to no agenda show calm I think right off the bat one of my favorites haiku Herman calm and

28:33 Which is a good one. Ooh, that is a good one. Haiku haremon, of course. We should... Yeah. Yes. That's one you want to take and you maybe want to put some poetry up and then... Some haikus, yeah. Yeah. We have an open haiku competition. Yeah. Why not? No, why? Well, no. No, how many was the last time anyone did a haiku competition on a broadcast like this? Well, you know what, John? Let that be the first time at Facebook and not here on this show. Come on. It's not a good idea. I don't like haikus. They don't rhyme. Duh! Winning. I've got a link to the No Agenda art prints.

29:10 Which there's really cool. I don't know if you saw this These are real art prints that you can buy different sizes prices range for $22 $33 or $44 50% of the proceeds go to the show and the first print that I saw is beautiful. It's Lucifer Clinton with her techno experts. It's beautiful So loose for Clinton. She's got a little slave. Let's there and those are techno experts so make sure you check that link out in in the show notes and Oh, it's Jen the art print where is it? Yeah, no, it's not on a domain name. It has to get a domain name Indiegogo.com. Yes, that's the one. That's the one. I like that one with Clinton. It's cool. That's a beauty. Yeah, it's cool. That's like real art and it's beautiful.

29:52 Are these signed and numbered? What do we have here? Yeah, I think so. By the way, according to Eric the Shield, there are currently 33 members of the 300 Club. Oh, sure there are. Sure, Eric. Not 32, not 34, not more than 30. No, it's 33. Mm-hmm. Coincidence? I think not! Do you want to mention CashForCarbon.com? We had a little email exchange about that. Yeah, you can mention it. I don't have it. Yeah, I thought it was kind of cool. Hey, Adam and John says, Mark, I own cash for carbon dot com, a site to buy and sell actions or lack of actions for cash. Basically, ride your bike to work while I drive for the week for like 50 bucks.

30:35 Plant an organic garden for $100 for the season or nap for humanity per hour. Let's get the slaves to work. This will stimulate the economy, allow real people to do real things for the environment, not just some farmer in India. And he'll be giving all of the profits of Cash for Carbon to No Agenda every Sunday and Thursday in honor of Show Release Day. And he says he hopes he can get us some cash. That's nice. That is nice. And by the way, I want to mention a website we don't mention enough, which is like, because I went to it and I said, this guy is really doing a great job. He needs to get more traffic, which is the noagendaentertainment.com. Oh, yeah. Oh, fantastic. It's totally fantastic. He keeps track of every book we recommend and all the movies and all the rest of it. He does a really, he does an out, it's a beautiful website. It's nice. Yeah. Also all the tracks. If I play, do a daily source code, he gets all the tracks and links to iTunes. That's a lot of work.

31:32 So we have a directory which is at noagendaworld.com and I'm just starting to build it and I don't want to talk about it too much on this show but we're actually going to really build out those links and make it easy for people to find. We're going to have managers in each different country of Gitmo Nation. A lot of stuff working on after I get over this cold. Hit them in the mouth dot-com now forwarding to know agenda show calm like that a lot Hot pockets across America tour calm. Thank you so much. No paranoia calm Then we have cling to guns and religion calm. Yeah real proud about that one. I Do like a queue USA calm. That's a very nice one So we basically we are the Al Qaeda on the United States Peninsula right now. That's nice a queue USA We are Al Qaeda

32:24 and a link to a fine Mac application which I think is being it's free Thomas released this it's a no agenda radiation calculator ooh yes and you can You can calculate how fast you're dying. I guess what's going on, but it's a link in the show notes under PR and then finally I really have to make mention of the new version of the pocket no agenda app It is it is completely out of control. This thing is so awesome now particularly the bat signal we now have individual bat signals for individual shows and

33:03 So if you want to be alerted when, for instance, Ray on the Charlie is on, you will get a bat signal for that. You can turn it off if you don't want to be disturbed. What's kind of cool though is that you and I, John, or I more specifically, I can actually trigger some of our favorite jingles in the app. And I was playing with it yesterday. All of a sudden it's like, turn down your speakers! On hundreds of thousands of phones around Gitmo Nation. Which you'd yeah, well not so cute because there were a couple people in the UK It was like 1 in the morning and all of a sudden I gotta be kind of careful with that. It's what you call a kid in the kit. You know there's like yeah, I'm like no

33:48 So needless to say juvenile. Yeah, it is juvenile, but it's very fun, but it's cool that now every program on the stream Has its own announcement? They're all on by default so you might want to check and make sure if you don't have it yet Just update the app. So thank you all very much for your participation in in our show in Supporting our show today Charlie Hendrickson Daniel Foster and David Redner all executive producers and 300 club members to Borac org Slash N A I think that's pretty much embedded into your brain by now, isn't it? Everyone else out there, please go forth and propagate the formula! Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order! I say it loud and proud now. Asleeeet! So, let me do a couple of clips now. Because I have, uh, I probably have as many clips as you do, but they're longer so we'll never get to them all, but I have a couple. Some weird things happening.

34:56 First of all, the Donald Trump presidential campaign is getting interesting. I must say, the guy is saying stuff I'm like, yeah, right on. At least we know he's a douchebag up front. And I think that he is egomaniacal enough to actually go for it. I think he just might go for it, John. And you I don't know that that's a decide actually I'm stunned by this that you'd say this because you're the one who is I think slightly more cynical about the show biz versus publicity connection than I am and The fact that he's got a TV show and he's promoting it in the process You're I think you have you did the hook the big old hook has got you right in their mouth and you're being reeled in No, I think I think you underestimate me and I take that as an insult I believe that

35:55 well you should. I think it would be very entertaining. First of all it doesn't matter who's president. We'd love it. I'm not saying that's my point. No it would be fantastic. You know what's his name Heinrich Schwarzenegger, Arnold. He has now said that people are telling him he should probably run for president of the EU and you know what I think this is it's gonna catch on. these kinds of people, this is exactly what we've been needing. We've had ugly people in politics for a long time. In general, I mean, a lot of our presidents have been good looking. He's not even a European! How's he gonna run for president? Excuse me, Schwarzenegger is Austrian, what are you talking about? He doesn't have an Austrian passport. Yes he does, yes he does. I don't think so. Yeah, he's an Austrian.

36:47 That's what we need. We need a fine Austrian gentleman running Europe. Hmmmm. Where have I heard that before? Right with the small mustache. Yes. Hmmmm. This is a very good idea. So anyway, so I got to play this clip from Trump because he was on with George Stepanapalapnamanaps. And it's really amazing. He, he, you know, because of course we know that ABC News is completely compromised and this is where I just totally fell in love with Trump. He's like, Well, listen to it. George Stephanopoulos, who is, you know, first of all, he's half Trump's size and he's a little mousy kind of guy and he's trying to get a word in edgewise and Trump is just trampling all over it. You say it's all about the messenger. A lot of Republicans think you're a flawed messenger for the party. Karl Rove, again over the weekend, saying you're a joke candidate if you continue to raise questions about President Obama's citizenship. There's a real question.

37:47 about the birth certificate. There's a real question about his own citizenship. There is no question. He's got a certificate of live birth that is recognized by the state department. George, I know exactly what you're getting at. The facts. No, they're not the facts. He doesn't have a birth certificate or he hasn't provided. He's given a certificate of live birth. It's a much different instrument. Certificate of live birth meets the standards of the state department for any one citizen, George. There were contemporaneous reports in two Hawaiian newspapers. George, they have co-opted you. I love this. They have co-opted you, George. You are under their spell. Now those are the facts, sir. George, they've co-opted you. Who's they? It's not, obviously, Obama and his minions.

38:28 Come on, that's funny. No, I'm not saying this is high entertainment. I don't see why the Republicans... I think it's bullcrap to be honest about that certain guys like Rove who must think this is hilarious are coming out with this, oh this is terrible, he shouldn't be saying that. Meanwhile, you know like it's one of those things where you say no no no applauding where you're like meanwhile encouraging people to your other hand to like bring up the applause level. Yeah, please please no stop. Please really do more. Yeah, exactly. No, but it didn't stop there man. It just kept on going and I was just like oh, I love this.

39:05 please. Is there more? Yeah, oh yeah, it doesn't stop. They have co-opted you. He just keeps saying it again. They have co-opted you, George. You're a bot. And first of all, true! A certificate of live birth is not the same thing by any stretch of the imagination as a birth certificate. George, it's so simple. George, let him show the birth certificate. And by the way, this is not, this is not a big focus of my campaign. No, not at all But what are you talking about? It's like watching a wrestling match with these bullcrap. I spanked your woman while you weren't looking, George. My big focus is China and OPEC. And I like this. He was like China and OPEC. You know, it's like we're going to kick their ass. That's what I'm hearing. You know, this is what everyone's doing. This is what's happening right now. Our government is going after China. But here's a guy who was president would just say it. We're going to go kick China's ass.

40:02 Screw the China man all of these countries that are just absolutely destroying the United States, but this is not a big focus of yours as long as you continue to raise you make it a big focus Let's see what happens true to you're making it a big focus. It's absolutely true. This is hilarious Let's see what happens But a certificate of live birth and a birth certificate are very you said you sent investigators to why he and you said quote They cannot believe what they're finding. What is a what happened? What happens to these anonymous people? Who are these people, these experts of his? Well listen, you know what? What are you, George Stephanopoulos? You know the questions to ask, you're right. None of your business right now.

40:43 Shut up slave to see what happens they found anything we're gonna see what happens What have they done? We are gonna see what happens when I'm the final episode of The Apprentice, of course What else do you think we're gonna see what happens next question George? He refused to accept that the president was in the United States. I hope he was I'm not looking if I should run And if I decide to go and I end up getting the nomination, I don't want to use this as an issue. I'm not just like a normal guy says, I'm going to run for president. I was a governor. I was a senator. I'm going to run for president. No, I'm a douchebag. Just straight up. Now I'm going to run. I give up a lot if I run.

41:25 Thing like that I like all the hookers and blow also give up a lot of my free private life. I have a great company I've done a great job, which if I run you'll see how what a great job because I'll do a full disclosure of finances What play the ball crap yeah clip no Sorry, I'm a little slow on the ball. I can't I can't We'll look at that. Maybe I'm going to do the tax returns when Obama does his birth certificate All right, so I just thought that was hilarious now something weird happened And I don't know if it was before this interview or after this interview so now we have I think there's a leak either there's a leak within ABC and Some and someone let this out and she was ready for it or the whole thing was scripted and acted and I don't understand What's happening Michelle Bachmann?

42:17 She was also being interviewed by George Stepanopoulos and he whips out the birth certificate. He actually has it, John. Did you know this? He has the birth certificate. Well, how come he didn't show it earlier? You know what? But you can hear him leading Michelle Bachman on, trying to get her all pumped up and ready. He's trying to set her up. He does the big whip out. And then it was like she knew it, like she knew it was coming. So either there's a leak within ABC and someone said be careful whatever you do. He's gonna pull the birth certificate out. So apparently he has it. Or this whole thing was scripted. One or the other I'd like you to... Oh, did I lose you John? Oh, oh no. Heard you, I heard him die away. Are you there? Finished? No, we can't be finished. I'm still connected. Let's pause. Well that was weird. You just dropped out. Did you lose connection somehow?

43:27 I know, you were talking and then you stopped talking and then I realized we were disconnecting. And you were just talking away. I'm yacking away, the way I see it. It was some of the best radio in your life. I'm telling you, it was so funny. Was it something about a clutch? So, um, okay. So let's listen to this a little bit. And I'd like your opinion, John, if this was a leak to her, which is a problem because of course ABC is co-opted and compromised, or if they were just playing out a script together. Sure, I do want to get on to some other subjects. Donald Trump was on this program yesterday. He seems to be at the center of the Republican debate right now. He's at 8% in our latest poll. You're down at 1%.

44:09 Karl Rove and other Republicans call him a joke. That means we've got room to grow. We've got room to grow. Sarah Palin has praise for him. Do you take his candidacy seriously? Well, I think that it's up to Donald Trump if he takes his candidacy seriously. Certainly, he's had a good foothold with a lot of people in the United States. I think they're intrigued by him and what he has to say. He continues to raise these questions about the president's birth status and last night you were on Fox News suggesting the president should come forward with his birth certificate as well. What I've said about that is I was asked the question about that and Republicans are constantly asked to vouch for the authenticity of the birth certificate. The only one who can is the clerk of court in the county where someone is born and that's where people should go. Don't ask Republicans, go ask the clerk of court. No, no, well actually one of your supporters in the state of Iowa has put forward a bill. You hear it? He's drawing her out, right? Yeah, no, he right there, she answered the question correctly and he's trying to get her back on the track. Now listen to how he tries to do that. Well back it up again because it was really interesting the way, it was almost like there was panic in his voice.

45:09 Oh, that's interesting. I didn't even hear this. Listen. And that's where people should go. Don't ask Republicans. Go ask the President. No, no, well, actually one of your supporters in the state of Iowa said... Yeah, he got a little nervous there, didn't he? A little jitter. So now he's trying to pull out something else. He's really trying to draw her out. wouldn't be up to the authenticators in each state to do that, that that would be a federal issue. There is a federal piece of legislation that hasn't gone anywhere that would also require that candidates put forward their birth certificate. I have no problem giving my birth certificate. It wouldn't bother me at all. She's so cool. She's so cool with this. She says, you know, I have no problem giving my birth certificate, not a problem whatsoever. Now, I think that at this point she knows he's going to do the big reveal and she's trying to

46:07 put a little bit on top just to really embarrass him. He has it! How come I haven't seen this? And how come he didn't show it to Trump? And that was just the day before so he has it now and they do a still shot? Certified, it's got a certification number, it's got the registrar of the state signed, it's got a seal on it and it says this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding. Well then that should settle it.

46:52 She nails him. Well, that should settle it. It's over. That's what should settle it. I take the president at his word and I think for any... I have again I would have no problem that apparently the president wouldn't either introduce that we're done. Move on. So this is over. Well, this has been introduced. So this case is... this story is over. Well, as long as someone introduces it, I guess it's over. It's right there. Yeah, there you go. That is not the main issue facing the United States right now. I think I think there's a leak within ABC and she knew it this is no other way because she's spoken very differently at rallies about this issue and she was so calm like oh that settles it then doesn't it and he's like that's it you're not freaking out on me think of my ratings woman this was not the agreement well the worst part is that he continued on with his script and

47:42 Despite the fact that she was already locked down on another track. Yeah, and it makes him look like like a bumbling idiot Well, I mean it is very funny is a bumbling idiot That was very funny if you think of if you deconstruct what you just witnessed with that clip it was perfect It's as he thinks he's got somebody hooked. Yep, and he's reeling him in and then he comes up with an inner tube and And he pretends it's a fish? Look at the size of this parasite caught! Well that settles it then, doesn't it? Hilarious. Something she... I think there's a... they must be freaking out. Who told her? I think I know if it was ABC... here's what probably... I'm just supposing. I have no idea what went on. There must have been... he must have had the meeting with Trump the day before and then all hell broke loose and it and the White House or somebody said... Here, here, take this.

48:39 made this thing appear and it was such a buzz that she got wind of it. I realize that the only reason she's being invited on to his show is to so he can show her this and so she played it so cool and calm and yeah that's right well I'm on board you know and making him look like a bumbling you know like you look typical of a hit piece yeah if the P if the person doesn't can't you know to do a real hit piece on somebody make him look like an idiot you all the ducks really do have to be in a row yeah it's not easy and it's not easy and and the person has to kind of fall into the trap

49:17 You know, they have to be arrogant or they have to do something that makes them look like an idiot so the hit piece works. Well, she obviously got wind of something and she just played it cool as a cucumber and looked like the good guy. He looked like a jerk. Perfect. Yeah, so I thought that was very funny. No, that's a good clip. I give you a ten. No, it's alright. I mean... I bet you're watching the show. Well, I've been watching all kinds of stuff. Wow, what's going on here? I got like planes and stuff flying overhead. Well, maybe the missile. You know, there were a black helicopters last night in Miami, downtown Miami for hours. They were like taken off from rooftops and landing on other ones and drug bust. No, it was apparently a Department of Homeland Security drill.

50:01 But they hadn't notified any of the residents and people like you know it's like it's annoying when there's a helicopter hovering above your roof for an hour. Yes. As I'm witnessing right now as a matter of fact this is very annoying sound. Yeah people are a little bit freaked out by that but they you know these of course weren't the real black helicopters because they didn't have whisper mode. So they're very what is that noise? God it's some idiot with like a leaf blower. Go we're in Cali we're in Los Angeles douchebag. Did you hear about this one? The President gave three separate interviews to local YOKO news stations.

50:41 He got really flustered because of course these guys, these local guys, they don't play by the script, right? Right, and they probably know that this is going to be their one shot. And boy did this guy take advantage of it. So not only does he really piss the president off, and he says something about that at the end, but he actually flusters the president into confirming a double negative. which really blew me away and I don't think anyone caught it but essentially if you go into a double negative you're confirming what was being denied. Let me see if I can give you an example here. We met the president in the map room of the ground level of the White House where he said his deficit reduction plan is better with its higher taxes on the rich and cuts. We can take a more balanced approach consistent with what my fiscal commission put forward

51:27 Which says two million, uh, two trillion dollars worth of cuts. But in Texas, his plan is a top sell. Why do you think you're so unpopular in Texas? Well, look, the, uh... I'm, uh, look, look, look, look, look. Texas has always been a pretty, uh, Republican state for, uh, you know, for historic reasons. Historic reasons? What might those be? What does that mean? It's nothing, it's bullcrap. However he inferred his election meant Texas politics were changing. We lost by a few percentage points in Texas. Well you've lost by about 10.

52:06 Okay, this is where it starts to go off the rails with this guy. Yeah, he's a biz- yeah, he was like 10 bonehead, not 2. I understand. I mean, if what you're telling me is Texas is a conservative state, you're absolutely right. Republican Governor Rick Perry harshly and frequently criticizes the president. over the health care law, EPA regulations on Texas oil and gas industries and the budget. But Mr. Obama hinted at hypocrisy by Perry. Governor Perry helped balance his budget with about $6 billion worth of federal help, which he happily took. Now listen very carefully because you really have to focus in on what happens in this next bit.

52:47 the members of Congress who had offered that help. Houston Republicans and Democrats suspect the Obama administration skipped Houston to award shuttle orbiters to states that would help in the president's re-election. That's wrong. Was the shuttle not awarded to Houston because of politics? I just said that was wrong. We had nothing to do with it, the White House had nothing to do with it. There was a whole commission, a whole process, that's how the decision was made. And you were personally involved in the decision? I just said that wasn't true. So you weren't personally involved in the decision He comes back and says I just said that wasn't true ie it was true. Am I crazy? No, what you're he is answering the question in a as a negative in the wrong way He's saying the he's answering some previous question, but he's actually but if you take it

53:33 If you have him answering the question the guy just asked, yeah, then he's just essentially saying yes he did it. Nah, but I think it's poor showmanship at best. Whatever the case is, he could have charmed this guy earlier. With that 10 point thing, that was an opportunity for Obama to joke around. Right. He'd say, well, you know, I'm an optimist and gee, you know, these things happen. But instead he got all bent out of shape about it being corrected. He can't be correct well listen to this so listen to the end I don't know if you can hear Every right-wing show everyone was showing that oh really okay? I didn't know that He claimed an immigration reform bill still isn't dead. The question is going to be are we going to be able to find some Republicans who can partner with me and others to get this done once and for all instead of using it as a political football. And the president says he's not giving up on Texas. Are you going to campaign in Texas for re-election or is the state written off? I never write off any states. You're not going to write off? I never write off states and I love Texas.

54:30 After the interview, Mr. Obama pointed out that he doesn't like an interviewer challenging his comments. Let me finish my answers before I do an interview. Alright? No, you can't hear it. He says, next time let me finish my answers before I do an interview. Shut up slave, don't yell at you. Everyone has listened to this. He never really interrupted Obama that much. And by the way, Obama, who O'Reilly interrupted constantly, Obama's long-winded and has to be interrupted. And he goes, uh... And in the exam, also it's apparently what you interrupt him about because I do have a clip. uh... which is a which is the zuckerberg clip where zuckerberg asking him a question and then just before obama's got uh... jumping zuckerberg interrupts and doesn't let him say anything until he gives him a big compliment and so the big compliment i guess it's ok to eat you can interrupt me if you're gonna tell me how great i am right the next month from the web uh... we've got a question from quality simmons from orlando florida and he asks

55:30 I strongly believe that education is the greatest equalizer. With so many problems plaguing our current system, is it possible to examine a complete overhaul of the systems that addresses the needs of modern students? Okay, hold on a second. That's not a real question. That is not- that's a fake question. You think it's a fake? Really? The question from the web would be, yo, what tracks are you dropping, nigga? Please this is so bogus before you jump in I just want to say as someone who's spent a bunch of time researching much education who cares about this I think that the race to the top stuff that you guys have done is one of the most underappreciated and most important things that your administration has done so I appreciate that the

56:18 By the way, before you say it, he jumps in, interrupts Obama and then gives him this big kiss on the lips with this race to the top crap. And this whole thing was unbelievable. And yeah, they were all scripted and there were people in the audience that jumped up and asked the question and they were all like pretty lame. There's a couple of things that I don't want to keep bringing these clips up, but I do have an excessive number. But I, by the way, and I hope that I'm going to try to relent from overdoing this because I do think my original thesis that Obama's going to talk himself out and he's going to get old fast is going to come up on this show too.

56:56 but uh... here's an interesting weasel word was a little neural linguistic stuff going on with obama on the budget who do you get some weasel words in here is quite interesting so what his budget proposal does is not only Hold on a sec, stop, stop. So he's talking about Paul Ryan's buzzer. Yeah, obviously. Now the thing is he does these long pauses, and on this pause by the way, the first pause, I actually cut this thing down by 90% because I couldn't play the clip.

57:32 With this, I mean it would be like, you know, it'd be, is this dead air? You'd be wondering yourself. So I had to kind of tighten this up a little bit. But he goes, he has these things and he sits and he thinks and thinks of some way of putting something. Then he'll say something and then he'll do his little neuro-linguistic addition to it. So when he says taxes for example, where we're keeping taxes the same, he always changed that to lower taxes and then there's always a pause and then he always throws in for the rich. Not only uh... hold income tax flat he actually wants to further reduce taxes for the wealthy, further reduce taxes for corporations not pay for those and in order to make his numbers work cut seventy percent out of our clean energy budget cut twenty five percent out of our education budget cut transportation budgets by a third i guess you could call that bold i would call it short-sighted

58:35 So, a couple things here. First of all, There's some kind of truck outside making a lot of noise. I can't hear it. Okay, you can't but I can. So I'm sorry about that. Now, second of all, Paul Ryan is also a douchebag. All these guys are incredible. And by the way, he looks like a little Weasley douchebag. Yeah, he's very Weasley. Did this guy just fall out of Harvard or Yale or where is he from? One of the two it looks like. Horrible, horrible, horrible. Definitely looks like a preppy. weaseling around because the true problem is we're spending a trillion dollars on war and no one will actually just come out and say it that's the solution just stop killing people stop it already what is that mickey is that like a truck did you try what did you do what you went you actually went outside and said stop that there's a show going on yeah really yeah you're ruining my life and then what they say no they're doing this whole uh

59:35 Oh, really? That's gonna cost me. Try that in New York. Yeah, try. Did they tap your ass? Of course they did. Maybe you can show some skin. I'm sick. Oh, sorry honey. She's got the flu too? Yeah, she has the flu as well. We're both down and out. I think it's because you guys started smoking again. You made yourself vulnerable. No, no, no, no, no. Anyway, so that of course is the big elephant in the room. So it's all a big joke. It's all theater. Yeah, I agree with this 100%. I was reading something about Obama made this stupid comment and I had to check it out because at some point he says stuff that you just have to look it up. Yeah. And there's one here where he talks about the engineers. Let me see if I can find which one it is.

1:00:21 Maybe in the batch to Obama. Oh, yeah, the asthma comment is funny because it was commented on by a bunch of people There's one thing he says Andy Grove. It's one thing after another he says that's bogus He actually says that's bogus. No. No he said he's there here the rant on infrastructure is the one that I want to refer to According to the Republican budget that was passed, for example, we would have to eliminate transportation funding by a third. We'd have to cut transportation funding by a third. You remember when that bridge in Minnesota collapsed with all those people on it? And there was a big hue and cry, how can this happen in America? Well, the National Society of Engineers, they've looked around and

1:01:13 They give us a D when it comes to infrastructure. Is that the same guys who said that the World Trade Center could not have collapsed by itself? Or is it different engineers? Well, one thing is there is no American Society of Engineers for startups. Really? You looked that up? Yeah. Did he actually say the American Society of Engineers? Hold on. I got to listen to that. Let me check that again. They've looked around and... Hold on. Back a little. Society of Engineers. I love it. Hold on. So anyways, he was making that up. They looked around and... Yeah, okay. The American Society of Engineers. Nice.

1:01:53 Okay, so there is no such thing, but what he wanted, he maybe could have said, which is what it was, which is the American Society of Civil Engineers, who is a kind of a, you know, they have a vested interest in building stuff, infrastructure, so wherever they look, everything is falling apart. so they gave they think the country's falling apart and they said it's a D but if you start looking at their there they have a website it's called infrastructure report card dart dot or this is actually 2009 study he says and they say that we're two we were 2.2 trillion dollars in need of new roads yeah sure it's probably some truth to that out here because there's potholes but

1:02:37 They had stuff like I was looking at the state by state and they said something like in California for example this is one of the problems. This says an unmet need of 1.7 billion for outdoor recreation facilities and parkland acquisition. So we get low grades because of this. So in other words, we're not buying enough property. The feds aren't buying enough property so that this gives us a low grade. By the way, 1.7 billion dollars, that's less than what we spend on the war in Afghanistan a week. All right, let's get off of this because I'm incredibly bored with the whole Facebook Obama story. What a distraction from what's really going on. And I want to say one more thing though. While you're bored, which I can imagine, you remember that clip of Biden falling asleep during the speech? Yes. And then the woman behind him whose head just

1:03:27 caved in she was down right? Did she die? No no no she was asleep. She might have. Passed out. So I saw the clip again on the big screen and besides O Biden asleep and the woman behind him conked out cold, the black chick in the back who was falling asleep and she was like that old eyes go closed. So there were three people out of six Conked out on everything. But you know why this is? Because they all had to go to rehearsal. They've all done this. They heard the speech. They all had to, you know, they rehearsed this. I'm sure that they have an identical room and you're going to sit here. O'Biden, you sit over here. Lady, falling asleep lady, you sit over here. General, you sit over here. And they do it over and over again. You know, it's a rehearsal. The whole, everything is so scripted with these guys. They're just tired. They just fell asleep. You know, it's like high school kids at the high school play.

1:04:26 You know, I'm tired. So anyway, so very important news, John. Sweet Mickey Martelli, the newly elected and completely fair and legally and democratically elected former singer of some Kaluulua band, who is now the president of Haiti, came to visit Lucifer Clinton. And they had a nice little statement together and we had Lucifer there and there was like three people literally three people in the audience and this guy all of a sudden he couldn't speak English anymore that we've heard him speak English and it's okay right it's not bad so we were speaking French with an interpreter standing nearby so I'm going to spare you the opening statements by Frau Lucifer

1:05:15 But something very funny, like midway, she says how important this whole Haitian thing is, how really, really personally important it is. Of course we know why, because we're going to have Clinton Avenue and the Bill and Hillary Clinton honeymoon suite in the hotel. I mean, they've been waiting for this for years. We are behind him. We have a great deal of enthusiasm. This is not only a goal of our foreign policy, but it is a personal priority for me, my husband, and many of us here. Mm-hmm. You think? Personal goal. In Washington. Now, some of you may know that Mr. Martelly's campaign slogan was Tete-Ca-Lé. Now, I'm told the literal translation of that slogan is bald head.

1:06:06 which doesn't need any further explanation. What? Yeah, he's bald. He has a bald head. Oh. It probably means dickhead, but someone told her wrong. But, tete-a-laide is also an expression that means all the way. And the people of Haiti may have a long road ahead of them, but as they walk it, the United States will be with you all the way. Thank you, sir. Yeah, just like in the past. Now listen to the applause. Like three people. So anyway, so then sweet Mickey Martelli goes into this whole rap, which is like, I was like, oh, Biden, like, whatever. So then we open it up to questions. This is always interesting because you never, ever see that on television. What do you think the first question was about regarding as we have Haiti? We've got the bald headed guy. We've got Lucifer Clinton. What is the number one question? What would the topic be about? Well, if it was me, I'd ask, where's the money?

1:07:06 No, we talk about Libya of course. It was the most embarrassing thing. What? The first question right off the bat is about Libya and Syria. And this is at the press conference for Haiti? Yes. And I just... Something wrong babes? Oh okay. Yeah, and she without even you know saying well that's kind of inappropriate, she just goes straight into the answer. So I think it was a scripted moment with uh... you prepared like all right you know you want has to be it has to be because this is off topic and i've never seen anyone in one of these deals where somebody goes off top where they're not scolded for it yet now she's a scolder so yeah i was just called a fact she smiled among that international community uh... can uh... provide which uh... which goods and services now i think it's important to point out that uh... uh...

1:08:04 This, by the way, is about the $25 million that the State Department is making available to the opposition, formerly known as the rebels, formerly known as Twitterers. So they're making $25 million available in stuff. Opposition, which has held its own against a brutal assault by the Qaddafi forces, It was not an organized militia. It was not a group that had been planning to oppose the rule of Gaddafi for years. It was a spontaneous response.

1:08:48 Yeah, a spontaneous response with tanks and jet fighters. Amazing how that... and who were these people, Hillary? Within the context of the broader Arab Spring. These are mostly business people, students, lawyers, doctors, professors. Now you've seen the video of the so-called rebels. Do they look like lawyers and doctors to you? They don't look like, they look like just a bunch of street ruffians. Who have very bravely moved to defend their communities and to call for an end to the regime in Libya and we are going to continue to take actions consistent with UN authorization to try to fulfill the international commitment.

1:09:42 So she goes on and on and it's literally like three minutes of answer of this completely inappropriate question, but she's they're teeing it up and And it's very important for everyone to see this because what they're doing now is they are remember we read the the United Nations resolutions 1970 in 1973 where there's all this stuff in there and then at the very end it basically says these terms of services can change at any minute right and Well, we're at that point right now and that point is the one little line that you and I both joked about is that they can literally use any means necessary to protect civilians. So William Hague, who is the foreign minister for Gitmo Nation East over there in the UK, he comes out and he says, oh, we're going to send in troops, boots on the ground. But John, they're not going to be fighting troops. Oh, no.

1:10:34 No, no, no. No, no. We're not gonna do that. No, no. They're just going to provide support and logistics and you know like You know, help them how to set up a tent. This is helping them to organize themselves. This is mentoring rather than training. It's not training, it's mentoring. This is totally 1984. This is the Brits that are sending in these guys. Yeah, the Brits are, yeah. Oh, the French want to send in the commandos, but the Brits... This is not training, it's mentoring. This is not training the fighting forces of the opposition. It's not training people how to use specific pieces of equipment or what to do on the battlefield. The guy is such a douchebag. This is organizational.

1:11:13 assistance. Organizational assistance I tell you. Let me get the marbles out of my mouth. Saying this is how you organize your structures, this is how you organize your communications or your logistics. It's called training. Yeah they should bring in UPS because they're good at logistics. If they can do that they will be in a better position to protect civilian life. Forgive me that sounds like training. Yeah so this is good, excuse me that sounds like training. Right on girl. it's not training the fighting forces. Oh, are they going to just train the kids on the street? It's mentoring! Shut up! It's mentoring! High school kids and a bunch of cheerleaders? It's just mentoring! Very clear. It is helping with the organisation of headquarters. Headquarters? It is not training or arming the fighting forces of the opposition. So there's a very clear distinction between those two things. If those British officers who are involved in this new contingent were to be attacked

1:12:06 by Gaddafi. Will they fight back? Good question. In self-defense? Well their protection really comes from the opposition side. They're not good enough at the moment are they? That's why they're there. Yeah I can just see a bunch of British troops like You know, if we're attacked, these guys are going to protect us. Boneheads! Really? Really? I weep. I weep for the young men and women in Gitmo Nation UK in the East who have to go there. I weep for you. My heart. I know kids who've come back from Afghanistan that my daughter used to hang out with. They're completely effed up. This guy is an asshole. I'm sorry. He has no qualms about sending young kids into this crap.

1:12:49 For money and for oil, you're a dick. So these are not fighting forces. So they are not going to engage in battlefield... No! Battlefield! These are advisors, these are people who know about organizational aspects. They're not people who are... Oh, let me guess, they're consultants. ...to fight a war themselves. Wouldn't you be safer to go after another resolution which would give you more scope at this point? Well, I don't think there's any need for that to do this because as I say I'm confident this is well within the United Nations resolutions the Provision to take all necessary measures in order to protect the civilian poppy there it is They pull it I pulls out the the final line card we can take all necessary measures and we can do whatever we want now So that he rambles on

1:13:40 I think there is one clip that we should really listen to. I want to add a little color to that. Hillary was on with Kissinger on the Charlie Rose show yesterday. Yeah, I didn't have time to watch it. I know that she did it. There was an interesting... I have a clip where I can show it played on Sunday, but it's when Charlie Rose says, well we want regime change. Here's what Charlie says. Tell me about this sexuality. It's in your DNA. He said we want regime change and Hillary, he's talking to Kissinger and Hillary jumps in and says no no no that's not why we're there. Right. That's what she says. That's not why we're there. We're there to protect the civilians. Idiot.

1:14:27 I'm thinking this is this thing is falling this is falling off the track meanwhile of course they're shooting protesters left and right in Syria as we speak yeah democracy now they've kind of fold they're actually focusing their show the all the you know the the progressive on Syria right no on on Bahrain Because apparently all hell's broken loose there and there's this one woman who's pregnant and she's a martyr and she's under arrest and the Bahrainis are being shot and the Saudi soldiers are in there killing Bahrainis and the whole thing is on and on about Bahrain. Syria they don't have any sympathy for so that's gonna, who knows how we're gonna deal with that. But this whole thing is like, you know, Syria, I mean they have to be in the same playbook so Syria's gonna fall but Bahrain isn't on that road to Persia so that's gotta... Path to Persia.

1:15:16 path to Persia and it's it's gonna end up being you know was still whatever it is I'm just gonna stay as Bahrain one of our buddies because though I think it's the ninth fleet or one of the one of the big Navy contingents use Bahrain as their home base and they can't have any bullcrap going on there so they might as well you know nobody wants to talk about that Anyway, this whole thing is a fiasco. Well, so there's a couple things. First of all, I want to thank Dave, who is a part of the Noah Jen the News Network. He shows up as a southern bread dot org. And he he had a very interesting theory, which I've cross reference with a couple of other boots on the ground and people in the business. He says he feels that there's also a fight going on between Schlumberger and Halliburton over North African oil, which I hadn't even thought about.

1:16:05 But it's actually a pretty good theory. Schlumberger trying to move Russia into North Africa, Halliburton trying to keep them out. And of course both of these companies have more than just oil rigging businesses. And of course we know who's behind Halliburton. So I thought that was very interesting. Something showed up on Russia Today though and what I'd like to do is I want to play this clip and when you have had enough of it, you tell me and we'll stop it. I love Russia Today. Well, you're not going to love this because again, once again, I mean, you know, are they paying our consultancy bills? Because they're not taking our advice.

1:16:45 They are not taking the hot chicks. Have you seen Natasha Curry? No. She's on HLN on the weekends. No. She looks like she's very pretty. She should be the one that should just hire her. She's real. She's pretty in a Yasmin Bleeth kind of way. Yeah, she is. Oh, I see a swimsuit picture of her. Is she Russian? She got the name Natasha. What more do you need? Well curry curry is a British name, isn't it? Let me see anchor CNN headline news fill in for Robin Mead on Morning Express on hold on a second on Me now featuring Natasha Curry previously morning anchor a Como TV. She's from Seattle personal doesn't say oh

1:17:31 She's been married to a firefighter since her days at Como and recently began appearing on air with her wedding ring. She's cute. Anyway, it's- Yeah, I think she'd be good on the Russia Today thing as the- Yeah, but she'd have to bleach her hair. I mean, it has to be blonde. I like it when it's all pulled back. Yeah, they're never gonna go with the blonde thing. They're not. They're just idiots. So now they have a douchebag English guy. and uh... but what's interesting is they bring in a guest and this is hilarious this guest name is pepe escobar i saw this and then i was and i take some of it escobar this is actually quite entertaining the guys got most of our theory

1:18:13 and he has a few extra gotchas in there that we don't have which I may incorporate and yeah play him. Washington's pursuing a larger goal than just regime change across the Arab world. Let's bring into the picture from Brazil the Asian Times correspondent Pepe Escobar. Now by the way I mean he's got to be a part of the Escobar crime family. He's from Brazil Escobar is like Jones But Escobar is not a portrait that I know of, so I don't know where he's actually originally from. I like him though, and he lays right in. Oh he's great, this is a great thing to listen to. Everyone's gonna get a kick out of this. Ask him about the role some countries are playing in the uprisings. Evening, Chia Pepe. One of your recent articles I've just been reading, you cite Chiners. Chiners? What is that?

1:18:57 Chiners. Chiners. Chiners. Chiners. Gaddafi's major financial partners. Does that mean therefore, carrying this one through, this trend of thought that Beijing has a vested interest in keeping the status quo? Well, it goes way beyond Libya, in fact. I'm working on a story at the moment, pitting the Pentagon against China. This is the big story in Africa for the next 50 years, I would say. It starts in the beginning of the 2000s with the creation of the African Union. Gaddafi was very important in this mechanism. It was a mechanism to give a political voice to Africa in terms of

1:19:38 better unified Africa in terms of political decisions and of course economic integration. Then China started investing much more than it was investing during the 1990s all over Africa in at least 30 countries. They have more than 900 projects all over Africa. They are the number one oil importer from Angola, for instance. They import materials, platinum materials and metals from at least a dozen different African countries. And then came the reaction from the Pentagon, 2007-2008, with the African command.

1:20:29 about the fact that Chinese are going in and we have the other element which he doesn't discuss which is the fact that they come in with these sweet deals to bring in Chinese products without paying tariffs which is another, we'll go into that later but we've talked about this before and we did talk about AfriCom or whatever it's called I believe a couple of over two years ago. Yeah but what he has to say about it is something I hadn't considered. Which has just launched its first ever African War when they launched the Tomahawks three weeks ago against Tripoli basically. So now this is the chessboard. It's the Pentagon via African against Chinese investments. I love it! And in the middle,

1:21:11 I would say at least 50. Yeah, stupid slaves. You're in the middle. You're kind of annoying. Let me pound some tomahawks on your head. African governments and they are scrambling to say, OK, what are we going to do now? Perfect. Let me just focus in a bit here. OK, so you're saying there's an opinion that Iran There is an opinion actually, isn't it, that Iran is Washington's endgame here, after Libya, maybe Syria too. Now taking into consideration those Chinese investments you've been talking about, let's focus in on Iran. Can we expect to see China take sides maybe if the threat of regime change reaches Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? Yes or no, what do you think?

1:21:50 But I would say no because the next domino to fall if we follow the agenda established by Washington... Now, pay close attention because you got to write these names down... ...would be Syria. I would say that... Let's look at the window of opportunity for the past... for the next five or six weeks in Syria. If the lifting of the state of emergency by President Bashar Assad holds and... But the protests continue, then we're going to have major trouble because not only the US is trying to destabilize the Bashar al-Assad government, like the recent reports and the WikiLeaks cables prove it, but also Saudi Arabia is financing the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria. And the Muslim Brotherhood

1:22:40 It basically is a weaponized ideological arm of Saudi Arabia. He would love to have a very, very close ally in Syria in the form of a Muslim Brotherhood government. So I would say pay attention to Syria in the next five, six weeks. And how far would Washington ever push this? China is of course a major creditor for the US. How far would Washington go in competition with Beijing? Well, the problem is there are different Washington agendas. White House... This is very interesting because now he's... Yeah, you know this is one of the things we've talked about this and we ourselves have determined that there are multiple agendas going on and there may be battles between the CIA, the White House and CIA and the Pentagon and this started... and even when Rumsfeld was in there he was like apparently creating these problems. So we have like multiple governments

1:23:32 Yeah, and it's a big mess. What we have to remember the Africom headquarters in Stuttgart in Germany because nobody in Africa wanted the headquarters based in an African country That's what that would to me was a big one. I didn't know that either. I thought wow okay So that's that's the plan is we got to install Africom headquarters because in Africa yeah, because they were based in the Stuttgart Doing there not a good place to be and then there are the dominoes Libya Ivory Coast

1:24:15 Zimbabwe, Somalia. So these are the next dominoes to fall according to the African Pentagon agenda. This is very interesting because we have a different thought about the pipeline that has to go all the way down south and he doesn't mention any of those. He doesn't mention the Congo, he doesn't mention Uganda. So could that be the problem that we have the AFRICOM Pentagon based fraction and they want to have all these, they just want to have control because they just, you know, they get off on us like they're whacking off like,

1:24:51 There's something, there is definitely a second two things going on at the same time and I think that's why we get confused when we try to deconstruct this. Now I want to say that when he mentioned Ivory Coast, I perked up because I don't have a clip from it but I was thinking about putting the clip in there which is I was watching over the, it was either the weekend or a couple days ago, probably a couple days ago, I was watching some stuff on CNN and they were doing these, they were doing the international, CNN International, they were doing international news and they were just all the same news that we normally hear. Then they do a whole special out of the blue, and this is for an American audience, out of the blue on the Ivory Coast. And I'm saying, why are they doing this story on the Ivory Coast? Who gives a crap?

1:25:40 And it was like a big story, there's a, you know, the new government's gonna come in and this is gonna happen. There's a whole bunch of stuff going on on the Ivory Coast, which we haven't been following because we, I don't know whose plan of execution we're onto, but we're on the one that involves the celebrities and the Congo and that group, and the pipeline. And there's some other one that's apparently overlaying the one we're onto that we have to now take it, we have to adjust for. and the Ivory Coast is part of that and he mentioned Somalia and some other one other country Nigeria and Nigeria that's another one that keeps showing up if you haven't noticed that's showing up in the news out of the blue I mean we I mean why aren't we getting election results from Angola I mean why is all of a sudden Nigeria such a big topic to get the American public used to the fact that

1:26:30 I don't know, are we going to have an out and out war with the countries in Africa? Are we going to be liberating them and making them quote unquote democracies? Besides the pipeline thing, I mean, which is kind of contradicts what this other thing might be about. I don't know. Now I'm completely, it muddied the water. Let's put it that way. Well, so it certainly seems like there's just a bunch of guys who get hard-ons for killing people. And particularly if the Chinese, if there's Chinese fuckers in there. They really like that. There will be Africom and the Pentagon and then there's the oil cabal, which you know, they have their own agenda though OPEC I guess anyway, so we you know, it's confusing But one thing's for sure. This is not about humanitarian effort

1:27:14 That's for sure. This is about killing people and making money off of stuff that flies and without pilots and kills you. And getting the Chinese out of Africa. Yeah, definitely. So this is all a proxy to strike back at China. And it'll be interesting to see what China does. We don't know anything about China. his theory it would this guy peppy which i thought was interesting you you don't have to play more than a number on our number is now but anyway his theory is that the chinese won't are non-confrontational so they're they do everything you know through very sneaky layered approaches so that which is what they've been doing in africa because that's how they've been getting all their goods and services into africa without paying any duty pretty much wiping out all the european competition which is when i first got wind of this about five years ago from some germans

1:27:59 that had told me about what was going on in China. Which is that the Chinese, they come in, they promise they're gonna build a big dam, but they gotta bring all their people and they gotta have some considerations. And the first thing they do is they basically build a town and they bring in every sort of color TV and stereo and computer into this and they start selling it to the locals without having to pay duty. And everybody buys it. Why should we buy your expensive IBM when we can buy this stuff from China for one-tenth the price? So let me ask you this question. Where do these rebels always get their American flags from that they burn? Is there like a flag shop on every corner? If I had to go get an American flag here, I mean, I'd have to hunt around. I'd have to Google and I'd have to drive somewhere to go get an American flag. You'd have to order from Amazon. These guys seem to have flags all the time. They've got like bushels of flags. And you know they're made in China.

1:28:52 It's like that's just curious you know it's like where do you get the flags from? To burn. You probably have you know so they the Chinese are probably selling American flags that are pre-soaked. Get your flags get your pre-soaked flags get your flags here they burn great they burn great. It's like the charcoal briquettes you know that are already soaked with fluid. Comes in like a plastic bag, you rip it open, hit and match on it, and the thing's up in like a torch. I think you don't have to do that, it's kind of like a flare, you just kind of rub the flag together and just, whoosh, just goes. Yeah, they do always burn really well.

1:29:29 So anyway, there is a history lesson taking place because obviously we have to teach our slaves and our slaves of course are the young kids exactly how it all fits together. Now what is the best way to teach the slaves a little history lesson? There's only one place you want to do that and that would be in a video game. So before we get to our segment where we thank people for supporting this show, I would like to play for you the intro. I know you've played some Xbox games and stuff, John. Usually for these shoot-'em-up games, they have like a little intro movie, right? That kind of sets the stage for you. Sometimes you can't even start the game without having watched that at least once, and then you can kind of skip past it. This is the new game, Operation Flashpoint.

1:30:15 Red River and this is a history lesson and this is how our kids are learning about what's happening in the world. By the way, not safe for children, but this is what your children are watching anyway so you might as well get used to it. Reagan had to deal with all this same stuff in the 80s. Insurgents trying to overthrow their governments. Back then, the Afghans would cry into the Russians for help. Thanks. This pisses Reagan off so much, his boys whip up Operation Cyclone and use the CIA to arm and train the Mujahideen.

1:31:12 One of these CIA trained badass Lawrence of Arabia SOBs who kicks the Russians asses out of Afghanistan ends up being Osama Bin Laden. True story. So the Mujis kick Russia's red ass across the sand, the entire Russian economy collapses and goodbye USSR. Now America has no more bad guys to fight. Go America, it's your birthday! But in the meantime, Osama and his now well-armed al-Qaeda brothers start screwing with everybody. Egypt, Algeria, hell, he's blown up half the Middle Eastern governments trying to create a unified Muslim country. But here's the thing, the people don't want it. Why? Don't know. Maybe they like their lives how they... So we need some more.

1:32:01 viable targets. So, Bush Sr. becomes President 41. Before we know it, Alright, I get to die now.

1:32:43 This is the worst thing I've ever heard. Where'd you get this again? This is from the new video game Operation Flashpoint Red River. Wow. So they throw in a kind of a bastard, well, you know, it's moderately accurate, but it's obviously riddled with inconsistencies, propaganda, and God knows what else. And it's that's kids that this is like the prelude so you have to listen all this garbage before you play the game? Yeah and the part that we just didn't get to right now is so they now where we're going is to go kick the ETIM's ass. You know what the ETIM is? What? The East Turkistan Islamic Movement and that's who they're gonna go fight in Operation Flashpoint. So that's what the game is about? Yeah.

1:33:38 So it's based on this backstory. Yeah, which is the yeah Osama and the rest of it. Yeah, just listen to the end where they go Booyah Come on kids this is predictive training once again So there you go. Wow. Yeah. And that's not the most popular game in the world. Well, we got a few donors. You're actually short. I want to tell everybody we like to get everybody to pick up their game a little bit. Although this is a slow week because of the spring break issues. Yeah, but we're here. We're going to be here Easter Sunday. I'm here with a fever. Yeah, we are. That's what we do. No. That's what we do. Last time we did it was a joke.

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1:40:14 Well, a couple of things. First of all, I want to back to the kind of the backstory where I got even into this. My wife is just completely incensed because of a couple of stories that ran in the bigger newspapers about how Lucy wants people to use Facebook and Twitter to receive the alerts. Yeah, of course. Because they can be trusted. Well, Facebook of course because apparently there's going to be some deal. I guess when Obama gets out of office he'll be a probably... Here's a prediction. Write it down in the book. When Obama is no longer president he will be a board member at Facebook. Oh, absolutely. If the company still exists. Which is a good question.

1:40:55 Yeah, it is. But that's the lineup. He's going to be a director or a board member at Facebook. Yeah. So, okay, I have... It's tit for tat. I have the one that this is Lucy Napolitano she shows up on O'Reilly which I thought was interesting and so she gets grilled about something and this is where she's instead of answering it is saying it she starts telling giving her bio and by the way she always prefaces it with look which Which she likes to do. Which clip is this gonna be? This is the great she is clip. Oh, hold on a second, I'm sorry. I actually queued up my clip by mistake. Here we go. We have been burglarized twice. Ranchers in the border area cannot leave their houses unguarded for a few hours since their homes are likely to be broken. This is not Lucy.

1:41:48 This is the preface to the O'Reilly asking Lucy a hard question. Joining us now from Washington, Homeland Security Chief Janet Napolitano. So you're a former governor of Arizona. I'm sure you feel this guy's pain. So what do you say to him? Well, I say, look... I say, look... I'm not only the former governor of Arizona, I'm the former attorney general of Arizona. And I'm also a lawyer on TV. And U.S. attorney for Arizona. So I know this border very, very well and there has never been more resources at the Arizona border to protect it than ever before and more is on its way. Did I lose you, John? Yeah. That's weird. You know, you don't want to mess with Janet. That's one thing that's for sure. That's quite annoying. We're still streaming. I don't know. I think John's connection is wonky today. So let's see if we can get him back on in a second.

1:42:53 that we were dropped. I wanna- Yeah, well you know why. Why? You don't mess with Lucy, dude. 46 minutes we were dropped the first time. How many times, how much, how long were we on before we were dropped this time? 46 minutes. 46 minutes, yeah. You're right, I'm looking at the call log. You're on a timer. I'm not on a timer. Well, maybe I'm on a timer. Maybe you are. It's that new Skype interface which rocks so hard. Yeah, they've been on for 46 minutes. Kill it! Alright. Next. Okay, so Lucy goes on, she tries to answer, this is an example of her answering the question. I do have one clip for the non-color scheme thing, but you probably have a different one, but let's play the hedges clip. Oh, I'm sorry, I had the non-color, here we go. Hedges. Winning down there, you guys, you're going to tell that rancher, look, we're winning this war against the Mexican intrusion of narcotics and human trafficking. We're winning it. So you just hold on a little bit down there, keep your shotgun handy, but things are going to get better. Is that what you're going to tell?

1:43:50 What I would say is not only are we putting more into that border, but that more is on its way and we are very committed to a safe and secure border for a lot of reasons. Yeah, more is on its way, don't you worry. No, I have to say... She won't answer the question. Of course not. Of course not. By the way, if you notice that winning the future has been dropped, that slogan didn't go anywhere. They stopped using that everywhere. You notice that? No, I didn't notice it, but it doesn't surprise me. So I actually got the announcement of the new terror alert codes and you must take a look at this video which will be linked in the show notes of course probably under shut up slave as she

1:44:30 Actually, like we're school children, she's got this big easel and she's pointing out, this is how it's going to work, children. This is how it's going to work. When you hear something, this is what you do. And this is how we're going to arrange it. And I'm in charge of everything. We are instituting the National Terrorism Advisory System. And what this system does is it will provide alerts based on specific incredible information about potential terrorist activity. And the alerts will be in the format right here. They will give you a summary. They will give you as many details as we can provide in an unclassified form. Anything that's unclassified, anything you... Which means nothing. No details. You don't need to know anything. We're going to tell you. We're going to give you information.

1:45:20 Woah! They've got a new website page, John. Eight million bucks down the drain. New website page. DHS.gov slash alert. Why not just like alerts.gov, you know? It's like stupid.

1:45:58 Yeah, why not alerts.gov? Because it's branding. They own the .gov domain, they can make anything up that they want. No, because it's branding. It's like part of DHS. It's branding for us. It's all for us. Branding. DHS.gov slash alert, which will be continually updated so that people can find out new information. Yeah, you just have to hit refresh all the time. She neglects to tell you that. Hit refresh. Say goodbye to orange. Say goodbye to orange. That will be going away. The perpetual orange that we've been in for the last 10 years that has never changed. At the Oakland Airport they actually made a permanent poster that was orange. Say goodbye to orange! Next week, and in its place, will be something that provides the citizenry of this country. Citizenry? Citizenry? What is citizenry? I don't know. That's a bullcrap word, citizenry. How about the people, the folks?

1:46:51 Citizenry? Really Janet? Lucy? With more information that they can use in the event of a specific credible threat or terrorist attack. The alerts will expire of their own in two weeks unless the intelligence community recommends to the secretary, that would be me. That would be me! I'm in charge here! Hello! Step back! Unless the intelligence community comes to me, Lucy, me, me, that's me! Did you know that I'm the secretary? That's horrible. She's a horrible woman. I agree that the alert by the way, what is that green jacket? She's wearing. That's an outrageously hideous piece of clothing because that's the same jacket. She was wearing on O'Reilly. It's her new thing. It's like, you know, someone said, you know, your eyes really pop when you're wearing that.

1:47:39 needs to be continued. This is to avoid the problem of cascading alerts where they simply keep adding one on to the other to the other to the other and people don't know well really what what is the current one what do I need to be paying attention to. Right so and I'm taking this somewhere John these are not just random clips because then she shows up on Morning Joe because you know she's got to propagate the message here. Shows up on Morning Joe, which is a completely 100% compromised Gitmo Nation New World Order shill show. And they start questioning her about the pat-down of the six-year-old.

1:48:22 And of course, the solution is what she's there to bring. The solution so we can stop with these horrible, horrible, yes, really, of course, protocol was followed and was all done and we've all seen the video. What protocol is that to feel up a six-year-old girl? What kind of protocol is that? Yeah, it's Lucy's protocol for sure. personal freedom. I mean nobody likes to see this little girl being patted down, although it was done in a professional way, we should say, but still. And you see old ladies in wheelchairs being patted down. We still have to take off our shoes all these years later. How much do you think about and talk about balancing freedom with security?

1:49:01 Well, nobody likes to see those kinds of things. I beg to differ. I have a feeling you might like to see that. Even though it was done professionally and according to the protocols. He believed it? Yeah, even though it was done professionally and according to the protocols. Do what? To feel up a six-year-old? Yeah, yeah. Professionally and according to the protocols. We've all seen the video people. That has nothing to do with professionalism or protocol. That was Gitmo Nation plus plus plus. That was horrible, disgusting. Nobody would call her out. She's sitting right there. There's your opportunity. Oh no, oh no, oh no. It gets worse. GSA is doing is re-examining those protocols all the time. And it's all in relation to threat. What is the threat?

1:49:44 One of the things we're doing from a six-year-old. Oh that little six-year-old's gonna kill us all that's right You got to keep an eye on those damn six-year-olds. They're a threat is if you Categorically remove a group from any type of screening well those who seek to do us harm then exploit that group That's right. They're gonna not now listen exploit the little girl. Now listen because the big lies are about to hit you. So you have to be very careful on how you do it. And by the way, remind Americans why we now check our liquids. Let's remind Americans... What? This guy asks a leading question about the stupidest thing ever which is the over the eavesdropping on a conversation between two Arab boneheads who talked about liquid bombs they didn't know crap about anything and now we can't bring any water on the plane. I'm sorry John you're wrong that is not the reason why. You are wrong. The real reason is about to be revealed. It's because a mother

1:50:41 was taking her baby on a plane in Britain and was willing to blow up the baby and the entire plane. What? When did this happen? What are they changing history on us? Are they crazy? I've never watched this show. This show is terrible. These people should be ashamed of themselves. And the other guy goes, that's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. And we all know when this happened. It was with the liquid bomb jerk offs who were in London talking about building a liquid bomb. And the next thing you know, they're checking liquids. By the way, we're we're when is this story except for one? We're all acquitted. They were all they were. Oh, yeah, because it was bull crap.

1:51:26 But when did this story crop up and now become the litany? When did this thing become the canonical story as to why we go into liquids and throw away the water bottles? It makes you kind of angry, doesn't it? To hear this type of lying? Angry? It's ridiculous. These people should... This Morning Joe guy, this whole group, should be ashamed of themselves. How do they sleep at night with this out and out lying to the public? Who does this show? Who produces Morning Joe? I don't know, but it's the former congressman, I think. Chuck, no, Scarborough, what's his name? Dan, Dan Scarborough. MSNBC, oh, what am I thinking? MSNBC, the great objective, oh man, that's disgusting. It gets better. Oh, it can't. It gets better. By the way, how they sleep at night is, you know, someone turns the switch off in the Pentagon.

1:52:20 and they just fall asleep. It's very simple. Blow up the baby and the entire plane with the liquids. Right. So that's and she says it too. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. So you're exactly right. When we say we're not going to screen six year old seven year old kids and I'm not for it. Nobody's for it. But then suddenly for some crazed parent You crazed parent. Now it's parents who are crazy. Crazy parents. Unless of course you got your kid on a leash, then you're all, everything's all under control. Then open up a weakness in the system. So here's a couple of things that we're working on. Okay, now here's a couple of things.

1:53:00 There's a couple things that we're working on and this is a solution to everything. Number one is expanding trusted traveler programs. Oh, what does that sound like to you, John? Trusted traveler programs. What does that sound like? Well, it sounds like one way of collecting more money for one thing, because it's going to cost you to join the trusted traveler. No, no, no. It's the mark of the beast, man. Here it comes. Programs where people will get biometric cards. Ah, biometric cards. This is what I've always wanted. I'm Lucy. I'm going to give you a biometric card. Do we have to have a tattoo? Yes, inside your lip. Anyway, so that goes on and that just makes you want to puke. But something interesting happened. I was watching C-SPAN and for those of you who are new to the program... Two and a half hours of testimony

1:53:57 about the TSA who are requesting a billion dollars a billion dollars for new stuff and The crazy thing is that there's a two and a half hour Testament, you know congressional hearing and I'm going to play a clip from representative Brown from Georgia who is a kind of a bumbling bonehead and But I want to keep a surprise about who was there to testify and what they said and what actually happened. And he's not pleased with it either. Today the subcommittee meets to evaluate TSA's SPOT program. Developed? Yeah, this is the SPOT program where they have all these multiple layers and

1:54:42 and scientifically they can prove by your behavior that you're evil. For instance, you might be carrying a baby with a bottle, then you're suspect because you're probably going to blow the kid up because you're a crazed parent. In the wake of September 11th, 2001, it was deployed on a limited basis in a select number of airports in 2003. In 2007, TSA created new behavioral detection officer, BDO positions whose goal was to use behavioral indicators to identify persons who may pose a potential security risk to aviation. This goal expanded in recent years to include the identification of any criminal activity. TSA currently employs about 3,000 BDOs in about 161 airports. By the way, I love that. 3,000 in 161 airports? How many of these guys are there per airport?

1:55:37 Sounds like a lot. Like 20? At the cost of over $200 million a year. Yay! The President's fiscal year 12 budget request asked for an increase of 9.5% and an additional 175 BDOs. Over the next five years, the SPOT program will cost roughly $1.2 billion. Yay! Outside of a few brief exchanges at Appropriations Committee hearings, Congress has not evaluated this program. So that's interesting. They have not evaluated the program now remember John you had that clip where essentially the the congressman couldn't talk about the confidential report because the stuff doesn't work and he was trying to let everyone know which of course CNN and Fox and MSNBC and everyone pulled up immediately and made headline news. Oh, I'm sorry They didn't that isn't to say that Congress wasn't paying attention. I

1:56:34 as GAO conducted a comprehensive review that culminated in a report on the SPOT program last May. In that report, GAO identified several problems with the program, most notably that it was deployed without being scientifically validated. This is a common theme that this committee is increasingly forced to deal with. Expensive programs are rolled out without conducting the necessary analysis. This has become a trend throughout the federal government, but particularly at the Department of Homeland Security. Okay, so basically he's attacking Department of Homeland Security. This committee has a long history with the development acquisition of the advanced spectroscopic

1:57:24 portal program, but other technology programs such as Backscatter advanced imaging technology, explosives trace detection portal machines, and the cargo advanced automated radiography system all ran into problems because they were rolled out before they were ready. Well isn't that interesting? Where did you hear about this? Was this on the news John? Was it on Morning Joe? Now of course you'd expect the TSA to come to this congressional hearing and to defend themselves against, you know, this accusation. The accusation that the puffer machines that cost millions of dollars were all taken out because they didn't work. Hundreds of millions of dollars. Hundreds of millions of dollars for the puffer machine that didn't work. The backscatter doesn't work. The backscatter machine that doesn't work. Yeah, portal machines. Doesn't work, that's what they said in the congressional testimony, doesn't work and may be dangerous.

1:58:14 DHS either fails to properly test and evaluate the technology. And it's from a GAO report. This is a real report. This is not John and Adam just saying, doesn't work. Does not conduct a proper risk analysis or neglects to conduct a cost-benefit analysis. Yeah, like the basic things the government is supposed to do. A crucial aspect... Not if they give you a blank check. Yeah, that's all they want. But I think they should come and defend it. The fact that it is often times taken for granted by DHS is the nexus between those developing the technology and those actually using it.

1:58:51 In the case of SPOT, it seems as though the operators got out ahead of the developers. But typically what we see is the opposite. The scientists and engineers developing capabilities that do not appropriately fit into an operational environment. Unfortunately, this is an issue that the committee is unable to address today because of TSA's refusal to attend. They just said we're not going to come.

1:59:37 They've said he said will you come back for more testimony it was like they were wrapping it up oh yeah we'll be back no problem yeah well here so apparently they decided somebody said hey you guys are getting reamed and by these guys tell him to screw themselves tell Congress to stuff it we're not showing up The goal of this hearing is to shed light on the processes by which DHS created the SPOT program, to better understand the state of the science that forms the foundation of the program, to examine the methodologies by which DHS S&T is evaluating the program, and to identify any opportunities to improve how behavioral sciences are utilized in the security context. Hey, that sounds like a shitty meeting. Let's not go.

2:00:22 and they didn't go. So literally there's two and a half hours of questioning and and they have a spot open with a little sign that says TSA, you know the little uh name placard and no name because of course there's no one there. So they don't, you know, these congressmen which have all this data instead of being, you know, instead of being the wimps that they apparently are, both parties, why don't they do a contempt of congress accusation or they, you know, you can file against these people, you can actually you can subpoena them there's all kinds of powers that congress has that they're afraid to use because they haven't got the nerve to do anything or they're gonna or they know what's gonna happen they're gonna get killed. This has become the secret police, no they're not gonna get on an airplane ever again. That's right. That's what happened to Ted Kennedy. Of all the people in the world that you know the recognizable guy Ted Kennedy said something bad about you know what was going on during the Bush administration next thing you know he's on the no-fly list excuse me!

2:01:23 But meanwhile, Morning Joe, they're all for all this stuff. Yeah, it's great. It's good. Morning Joe, we're rock and rolling. What is this? Do we have a new scenario? A woman that's gonna kill her baby with a bottle of liquid explosives? Okay, we'll use that. A crazed parent, John. Crazed parent. Crazy! And we all know that's how that's why we have to do that because it was a crazed parent who had no qualms about blowing up her baby with formula in the in the bottle. That's right. Explosive formula. That's right. Say it. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. All right. Well, we're doomed on it on that. The secret if the Congress can't do anything, what would we're not going to do anything. That's for sure. The whole thing. It's already used a lost cause.

2:02:13 They're gonna make up stories as they go along, they don't care about the public and they're gonna be feeling up little six-year-olds and unless the local, the governments in the various states are, do some, pass some laws that make this illegal, they're just gonna be a bunch of pedophiles, let's face it. Yeah, precisely. And now, back to real news. This just in everybody, Charles Manson is crazy. That's all the news for today. And you know the joke of the Charles Manson story of course is he's come out against, you know, he's a big, apparently a warmist. Yeah, he says that we're gonna die of global warming. Yeah, he's the expert. Yeah. I got a couple of good ones. But then he also says Obama is a robot, which is kind of funny.

2:03:03 Well, it's a possibility. So that's what that thing in the back of his head is maybe. So I have a couple of funny weird stories. One of them is like, I'm now going to have to rethink my, you know, all the air traffic controllers stories. Can I just tell you what that's about? Do you want my take on that? No, I want you to incorporate the clip I want to play with that and see if you can figure it out. This is the sleeping story with a twist. Yeah, I've been wanting to talk about this. According to recently filed court documents, on July 5th of 2007, a detective called the Tacoma Police spokesman at 4 a.m. to issue an alert for an abducted 12-year-old girl, but he had taken sleeping medication before going to bed and fell asleep before sending out the alert, which ended up being delayed for about 12 hours. The girl was found dead a couple of days later. The family is now suing the city for wrongful death.

2:04:13 Hmm, okay. That's that throws a little curveball at me. What did to me too because it's like another anti, you know, the sleeping on the jobs. It's a theme. I like what this so I think that's just a minor distraction of news piling on because I believe that when it comes to the air traffic controllers, there's something different happening and I'm going to spend some time before Sunday show trying to figure out I And the next generation is essentially where everything's controlled by a computer and you really don't need these air traffic controllers, which by the way is a lie. Because air traffic control, and there's always a healthy kind of friction between pilots and air traffic controllers because pilots don't, you know, hey, you know, let me just swing around and I'll bring it in this way. And these people do... Right, a computer can't do that. No, and these people keep you alive.

2:05:22 and they keep everybody alive and like everything, stuff goes wrong. People mess up and stuff happens. They are overworked. They get this nine-hour break between shifts, but of course that starts the minute you leave the door. And by the way, air traffic controllers are not allowed to sleep in their car. So if you leave and you're like, I just want to like catch an hour in the car in the parking lot, they can get fined for that. So they have to actually drive home. So you're going to like an hour drive home. You got to talk to the kids, talk to the wife, have a shower, you know, so you still sleep in six hours before you got to be back on the job. So it's a challenging job. They have been trying to implement this multi-billion dollar system for years. And this is the play.

2:06:05 Like we can't trust the humans and I'm not quite sure who makes the system It should be it's probably Raytheon or something like that. And I think that this sleeping on the job thing is just a pylon Yeah, either that or it's a part of the narcolepsy meme. Maybe the guy got the flu shot Well, it's it's I noticed that I'm starting to see this kind of thing I have another kind of offbeat real news things here. Oh, there's a And now, back to real news. We gotta get back to it. Back to the real news. Extra. Actually, there was a kind of... Well, let me play the... This is the weirdest story. For one thing, I don't imagine how the woman felt. There was some sexual assaults going on in Oakland and then they give this report.

2:06:54 this weird sexual assault story and it's like it's kind of humiliating to the woman but at the same time it was a crime committed and I have nothing but mixed feelings about it but at the same time I it just I thought it was one of the weirdest stories ever reported in this classic stuff you hear at the early six o'clock in the morning news. Yesterday afternoon investigators say a man followed a woman from a neighborhood store all the way into the gates of her home. Then he ordered her to take off her clothes but he ran away. Police only have a vague description of the attacker. Still not clear if that incident is connected to a series of sexual assaults near Lake Merritt earlier this year.

2:07:34 What is a sexual assault though? Well, I don't know what it is, but the fact is he has her strip and then he says I'm not interested and runs. I mean I just thought this was it was the weirdest it's like okay it's all weird and she had three breasts or I mean that little details wouldn't have hurt but that's very weird. I thought it was very weird and the other one as I was watching this morning this is six in the morning stuff again and there was this this crazy report this guy's doing the doing the traffic report this is mainstream media I'm thinking why are they paying somebody for this road, this is a road traffic report and why are they paying somebody for this kind of insight? Apparently somebody would play it and you'll see what I'm talking about. Alright, thank you very much. Right now traffic is busy in many areas. I got a couple of tweets saying why is 101 so slow? I'll explain that in just a second. I got a couple of tweets saying why is 101 out of San Jose so slow? Well the answer is we had earlier problems getting into the valley.

2:08:35 And there it is, 101, pretty slowly. See all those road sensors turning red? You know, it's funny because Mickey and I will watch the KTLA morning news as we have our breakfast, and they show that map and it's got arrows and circles and dots and moving things. And she's a real map reader and she's like, I don't understand anything. I said, me neither. I don't get it. It's just like pretty colors just to keep you distracted. And if somebody says, what, why is the traffic so slow? You say, well, there were earlier problems. What were they? There are obviously problems. So they're in a slow because there were problems. What problems? You think there was a problem? So they're paying this guy a salary to give this kind of report? What are all your problems?

2:09:14 I was very annoyed by that. Yeah, I got something that is a follow on from our last show and this is about high fructose corn syrup being equated to sugar. So you remember that the New York Times, I think it was, propagated this report where they're saying sugar is bad, sugar will kill you and there's no difference between high fructose corn syrup and sugar because it's sugar. So, I think you and I agree that this is basically, this report is very much like the disclaimers on medication. It's intended to get you to think about high fructose corn syrup as sugar and just say, shrug it off saying, you know, it's sugar. It's going to kill me, but I like it. It's sugar. And just forget the fact that sugar is not the same as high fructose corn syrup.

2:10:01 Is that a fair assessment? Well that and the fact that I believe it's part of a plan to slowly relabel high fructose corn syrup into the word sugar. So why the because they've already moved to corn sugar to describe this stuff. Well we're about to make the final move. This is Max Reid I think. Here is the scientist explaining to us that it is sugar. He is leading the charge for the relabeling of high fructose corn syrup as sugar. And what he says is outrageous. The same. And here's sucrose and they're just bound together by this ether linkage. We have this enzyme in our gut called sucrase. It kills that bond in two seconds flat and you absorb it. And basically, high fructose corn syrup, sucrose, it's a non-issue. It's a wash. They're the same.

2:11:00 And they know that they're the same, the soft drink companies and the corn refiners. Because here are their misses. This comes from the Corn Refiners Association. Obesity research shows high fructose corn syrup metabolizes and impacts satiety similar to sugar. Indeed it does. I agree. at decent meetings, academic meetings around the country. Hunger and satiety profiles energy intakes following ingestion of soft drinks. Bottom line, research supported by the American Beverage Institute and the Corn Refiners Association. They are correct. There is absolutely no difference between high fructose corn syrup and sucrose.

2:11:45 So much so that the Corn Refiners Association, in an attempt to capture market share, came out with this entire ad campaign. You probably saw it on the back page of the New York Times. It was on TV. It's everywhere. My hairdresser says that hot sugar is healthier than high fructose corn syrup. Wow, you get your hair done by a doctor? I didn't know I could cut hair. Oh, mock everyone who doesn't agree. He's an ass. There are a whole bunch of them. You can go to www.sweetsurprise.com and see how you're being hoodwinked. But indeed, this is true. High fructose corn syrup and sucrose are exactly the same. Whoa! Whoa! And this is happening at decent meetings all around the country with real scientists. This is the PR people. Science! And they're good because this is the- They're exactly the same, really exactly

2:12:34 the same is that why you can't use high fructose corn syrup when you're making chocolate because the chocolate will never harden because they're exactly the same is that right I didn't realize that that's interesting because it seems to me the chocolate would harden if they're exactly the same it's everything is why would you demean the hairdresser or what and now she's suddenly a doctor The doctor, the doctor isn't a chemist, he doesn't know the bond issues with high fructose corn syrup or how it's manufactured. The doctor's no expert on the subject. So what difference does it make if she's a doctor or not anyway? This is ridiculous. This guy is a... a paid shill who should be ashamed of himself.

2:13:26 PR mission that gets everyone to think, because no one's gonna give up sugar. How is it a reverse PR mission? It looks like a straightforward PR mission. Because he's saying high fructose corn syrup will kill you just as fast as sugar. That's what he's saying. I don't think it's a reverse anything. I think that's just the methodology they're using. That's the message. They're trying to consolidate the two, you know, they're trying to get, in people's minds, they're trying to make the two things into the same, which is a straightforward PR process. It's not like they're trying to do anything. Well, that's what I mean, but that's essentially what I mean. It's like by using a negative, they're implanting the true message into your brain. That's a little more fair.

2:14:06 I'm surprised. I don't even think it's the negative thing that they're trying to do. I think they're just trying, they're pushing the same agenda that the PR people have done with this with the corn, just the corn guys. Yeah. They're looking for more corn holes, corn holes. They've decided that, you know, they got to get this stuff into the market. They got because they're getting huge government subsidies to grow the corn. They make this a pure profit item it's made in a refinery and stuff is probably I mean every time a bad study comes out they they shout it down this is kind of very much like the warming the warmest shouting down anyone who says anything negative about global war this doesn't look right this this this chart is bogus these numbers don't don't add up oh no you're the worst person in the world you know so they had all the you know they have the same thing going on it's just ridiculous

2:14:56 I have one more funny clip, which is an actual journalist doing his job. Now, you know what? I'm gonna do that as an end of show clip because it's hilarious. It's state spokesperson Mark Toner who is trying to explain why he can't talk about the reason that a United Nations Envoy cannot speak to Bradley Manning. This is the guy who supposedly leaked the information to WikiLeaks yet at the same time he's saying you know we're part of the most transparent government in history, but I can't tell you why he can't see them and The reporter is relentless you want that as an end of show clip just as funny. Yeah, yeah Yeah, I got nothing

2:15:44 You've had nothing all day, honey. I had great stuff. I got the Obama. I'm kidding. I'm kidding much car Come on. Come on the clutch car rocks in fact I might open the show with that so everyone can just be in bouts of laughter do they still use such a thing in? Clutch car do they exist? The clutch car everybody and the sob is not far off from being a clutch car actually I I'll be honest about that. No, it's automatique. But barely. Coming up, we have Mr. Oil with Oil's crude show on the stream, noagendastream.com, and I shall sound the alert! The special—I gotta figure out how to do it—the special bat signal for that show.

2:16:34 And I'm going to go back to bed because I am feeling pretty crappy, but it was always good to speak with you, John, and to go tet-a-tet. As it were. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California, my name is Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the sun has popped out after a little sprinkles last night, as though anyone cares about my weather report, I'm John C. Dvorak. I care. We'll talk to you again on Easter Sunday, right here on NO Agenda. Can you explain why, if the United States is proud of its human rights record, that the UN Special Rapporteur has complained that you're not allowing him independent access to Bradley Manning? We've been in contact with the UN Special Rapporteur. We've had conversations with you in terms of access to... Me. I'm sorry.

2:17:35 We've had conversations with the special rapporteur. We've discussed Bradley Manning's case with him. But in terms of visits to PFC Manning, that's something for the Department of Defense. And the ICRC with the same problem? The State Department is the direct contact with the ICRC, at least it was for the Guantanamo inmates? Have you had any contact with him? I'm not aware. I don't know. I'd have to look into that. But in terms of the UN Special Rapporteur, we've had conversations with him. We have ongoing conversations with him. But in terms of access demanding, that's something for the Department of Defense. What about scrutiny? Where's the harm? I said we're having conversations with him. We're trying to work with him to meet his needs.

2:18:26 But I don't understand the question. You said you welcome scrutiny from outsiders of the United States human rights record, that you feel that it speaks to the strength of the US system. So why does it take very lengthy conversations to agree to let a UN special rapporteur have access to an inmate? Well, again, for the specific visitation request, that's something that the Department of Defense would best answer. But look, we've been very clear that there's a legal process underway. We've been forthright, I think, in talking about private PFC Manning's situation.

2:19:16 We are in conversations, ongoing conversations with the special rapporteur. We have nothing to hide. But in terms of an actual visit to Manning, that's something that DOD would handle. Well, but you have conveyed messages from DOD back to the UN on this? Well, no, we just, look, we're aware of his requests, we're working with him. You said you've been forthright in your discussions of his treatment? It seems to me that the only person who was forthright in discussions of his treatment resigned several days after making those comments. Can you explain what you mean by you've been forthright in terms of his treatment? He is being held in legal detention, there's a legal process underway, so I'm not going to discuss

2:20:00 in any more detail than what I've just said because there's a legal process underway. So that's what you mean by forthright? I can't discuss his treatment. Being forthright is saying nothing because there's a legal process underway, is that correct? That's not correct at all and we continue to talk to the special rapporteur about his case. Well, okay, so if you've been talking, what do you talk to him about? He says, I'd like to visit him and I need to do it privately and you say no. I'm not going to talk about the substance of those conversations. I just say we've been... Well then I don't understand how you can say that you're being forthright about it if you refuse to talk about it. And if you don't talk about it, at least forget about what the actual conditions of his treatment are. But if you're not prepared to talk about your conversations with the special rapporteur,

2:20:44 That's being even less than not being forthright because you're not telling us what you told him. But you understand the legal constraints that I'm operating under because this is an ongoing legal process. He is being held... I understand that you're put in a difficult position where you say that you're willing, as Arshad noted, when the case... You don't understand why China is so upset because the U.S. is willing to open up its human rights situation to all kinds of scrutiny. And then the first example that anyone raises... And Matt, I would raise with you the fact that much of China's report came from open source, which is what an independent media does, and would note that that kind of independent media does serve a function, and there are details about Manning case and other human rights concerns out there, but I'm not going to talk about it here.

2:21:35 Just take your medicine! Dvorak.org slash N-A