Topic: Nextgen Automation

The hosts examine the transition to the NextGen air traffic control system, which relies on ADS-B transponders and increased computerization. Curry argues that removing human decision-making from the cockpit in favor of automated systems is a dangerous mistake. He predicts that software glitches and the unintended consequences of technology will eventually lead to fatal aviation accidents as computers take over separation and navigation tasks.

A series of reports regarding air traffic controllers sleeping on the job is framed as a potential "pylon" to justify the transition to a fully automated "NextGen" system. The hosts argue that the current workforce is overworked due to short breaks between shifts and strict rules against sleeping in their cars. Companies like Raytheon are mentioned as potential beneficiaries of a shift toward computer-controlled air traffic management.