Episode 272 · Sunday, 23 January 2011

Brown is the New Green

Massive East Coast mob takedowns and high-level corporate reshuffling at Google and GE signal a new era of state-sponsored industrial consolidation and digital regime change.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 272

About this episode

The Department of Justice conducted a massive sweep of the New York and Rhode Island crime families this week, arresting over 100 suspected mobsters including figures known as Tony Bagels and Vinnie Carwash. This unprecedented law enforcement action coincides with the appointment of Bill Daley as White House Chief of Staff, signaling a potential consolidation of power within the executive branch. Meanwhile, the suspicious death of photojournalist Max B. Miller following the Golden Globe Awards has reignited allegations of corruption and Russian mob influence within the Hollywood Foreign Press Association.

Corporate and government interests continue to merge as President Barack Obama appoints GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt to lead the Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, despite Immelt’s history of outsourcing labor to China. In the tech sector, Eric Schmidt announces his departure as Google CEO, fueling speculation of a transition into a high-level national security role within the CIA or NSA. Financial oversight remains under fire following the appointment of Goldman Sachs executive Eileen Rominger to the SEC, while the USDA moves toward the full legalization of Monsanto’s Roundup Ready alfalfa despite protests from organic farmers regarding cross-pollination risks.

The global carbon market faces scrutiny as hackers infiltrate the European Union’s credit exchange, stealing millions in digital assets. In rural India, methane captured from cow dung is being converted into carbon credits for the Chicago Climate Exchange, a practice critics label as a sophisticated financial scam. The show concludes with an analysis of the Jasmine Revolution in Tunisia, where the strategic release of WikiLeaks cables and social media mobilization are identified as modern tools for intelligence-led regime change. Special Executive Producer Baron Von Pelsmacher and Knight Jared Forrester provide the financial support necessary to maintain this independent analysis.


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CHAPTER 01 / 41 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 272 Introduction and State of the Union Preview

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open Episode 272 of the No Agenda show on January 23, 2011. They discuss the upcoming State of the Union address by President Barack Obama, predicting a shift in the news cycle toward jobs and economic rhetoric. The hosts reflect on the fading media coverage of the Tucson shooting involving Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· state of the union· gitmo nation· no agenda

00:00 I'm thinking that the three thing is a message back to base. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Act. It's Sunday January 23rd 2011 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 272! This is no agenda Tracking revolutions of all colors so you don't have to. Here at the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center in Gatemont Nation West and the People's Republic of Southern California in the morning I am Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's NFL... never mind! I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot & Buzzkill In The Morning Are you okay there, John? I just had a frog in my throat. It said... You were trying to do a horrible sports reference and it backfired on ya! That's what happened. It's because you have a curse on me when it comes to that. When it comes to sports yeah. Yeah not liking the sports. Well in the morning to you John In the morning to you, in the morning to all ships at sea feet on the ground and dung in the pit. Wait- I've got to add that one. That's a good one hold up

01:04 Dung in the pit. All right, let's do it properly all ships at sea boots on the ground wings in the skies foots in the oceans checks and the mail bakers in the kitchen dung in the pit Astronauts manning the moon and Mars base stations, hands on the air and human resources everywhere. Especially those in our chat room at noagendastream.com where everybody has assembled they are all charged up exactly the way their government loves them nice and energized full of electricity ready to be tapped And that'll be it for this week's show Ready to be sucked dry Hey I was right John to the day, two weeks to the day. Yeah but it hasn't ended yet. Now it's over because you fell short no on Tuesday we have our El Presidente State of the Union so everyone is now talking about jobs jobs jobs state of the union and then we've forgotten about everything its over it's done today as the last day two weeks to the team. You're right about that Tuesday will should switch things over that should be there the turning point

02:08 Yeah, now I'd say it's uh... Well that's because all they're doing now is just- Now every day they finish with every Every new show. Every angle. Yeah then they got every doctor in the world every neurosurgeon has been on the air these guys shouldn't be on television talking about what possibly can you know as she came to get a tracheotomy and the bullet went here, the bullet went there. We're kind of surprised about this... She had a good flight she had a good trip transport was good I saw her being transported by ambulance and I saw her being transported by helicopter which was it? It was both B-roll so who knows exactly that's my point exactly oh my goodness yeah so of course were talking about

CHAPTER 02 / 41 Discussion

New York Mob Arrests and Chicago Political Connections

Federal authorities arrested over 100 suspected mobsters on the East Coast, primarily in New York and Rhode Island. The timing of these arrests is linked to the appointment of Bill Daley as White House Chief of Staff, suggesting a consolidation of power or a message to New York crime families. The discussion highlights the colorful nicknames found in the indictments, such as "Tony Bagels" and "Vinnie Carwash."

mobsters· chicago· bill daley· indictments· organized crime

02:50 uh... the shooting of the uh... congresswoman and as it that is now being on the national agenda these give my nation states here for a for two weeks and i think i think it's done but i think it's completely done it's over uh... did what we'll get some updates from time to be a throwback we have uh... like thirty seconds too to close out the hour before that at the top we have to hit the network break that's when they were going to do a quick little update will talk about your people gets in there b-roll from a doctor saying that she's doing fine and uh... everything is good yeah i think that's going to be about it for the most impressive news which i think we've already forgotten about actually happened during the show of our thursday show uh... took place in and out just made me smile and laugh and chuckle out loud as uh... one hundred mobsters were arrested on the east coast of uh... united states and uh... i'd just love at how we get uh...

03:52 How we get a chief of staff in the White House from an at least suspected crime family, the Chicago Daily Family. and that two weeks later every single uh... mobster in on the not just new york but role i wrote island they're all of their all arrested not a single month ago there's no mob in those chicago apparently really nice to have it be restaurants at the time and it's like low-level guys too is you know if it's not even though some other crime yet top of the line was one old man apparently who'd been you know wasn't parent one of them fathers i think as a retired dead copo

04:31 But you know, yeah. You agree with me right? It's like what it's like inside the clean house. Yeah He's in one of the movies. Yeah incidents I think not it totally was and you So from the you know There's a lot of paperwork out there on the full list of indictments have you seen the nicknames on these guys? Yeah They're great. Yeah turn into like a bunch of blogs cropped up around Tony bagels Johnny bandana Vinny car wash I think Vinnie Carwash is great fat Dennis the old man and the professor you could be that, you could be baby Shaxs or Baby Fat Larry. Who's told of feds? Benji The Claw! You know that's the only guy I was afraid of looking at these nicknames i don't want benji the claw sneaking up on me at night no benji the claws sounds like a bad guy he sounds like he got something bad going on there anyway good work there by uh... by uh... what

05:29 James daily daily. Yeah, good work good work getting rid It's just a little message to all the guys in New York It's like hey just so you know we're in charge now because it is separate right the the New York Oh yeah, no very well. Yeah there are the new york guys are kind of in a gentleman's agreement There's a bunch of gangs You know the genoveses that they get like five five families or something and we have six right depending and then Chicago has got its own thing And then st.. Louis has got its own thing in Kansas City as they knew most of these are kind of not that what they used to be but yet the good old sure chicago is closest to still having uh... you know pretty well-organized operations right and i just thought it was a letter s saying i just thought it was hilarious rhode island new york we've gotten more in new england but chicago now nothing going on there not a single mobster to be found again no coincidence yeah right it unbelievable

CHAPTER 03 / 41 Discussion

Hollywood Foreign Press Association Suicide and Russian Mob Allegations

Photojournalist Max B. Miller, a member of the Hollywood Foreign Press Association, died by an apparent suicide following the Golden Globe Awards. The event is framed within broader allegations of corruption and bribery within the HFPA. Speculation arises regarding potential Russian mob influence in Hollywood and the financial pressures facing long-time industry voters.

max b. miller· golden globes· hollywood foreign press association· russian mob· suicide

06:24 so what else well this time and there's so much going on that actually there was a uh... as something else that happened right after uh... right after the show accepting i think i did know about just before the show we were we've been following in tracking the hollywood whackers for awhile ever since uh... randy but you have more than me because your down there and you get to gossip them in the military milieu millenium and um... So there was a suicide the day after the Golden Globe Awards. One of the Hollywood Foreign Press Association members in an apparent, as everyone reports it, apparent suicide shot himself in the head Why? Well this kind of... and I think this might actually be a real suicide but its not unrelated to the problems with uh... with the mob in Hollywood also no mobsters picked up here because that's the real mob, the Russian mob you don't want to mess with them

07:21 This was Max B. Miller, older gentleman he is a photojournalist and uh... you know there's all the allegations in their sexual lawsuit now from the p r firm against hollywood foreign press association that said that states that you had to do the whole thing is corrupt and it's all about it's all about money at the end of the day because if you win a golden globe then you are receiving on television as being used as a as a perfect p r mechanism to start promoting the oscars which i think is pretty good that he's a real award show although questionable here and there as well. But this Hollywood Foreign Press, you know everyone's like selling their votes essentially for whatever and I was reading a couple of articles about this Max B Miller quote here he never really recovered from his divorce his business was going down he barely had any income the past few months and this was like a major guy that is one of the guys who was voting

08:19 Everyone was taking advantage of his generosity. And last but not least, he was so worried about his son's future which I wasn't able to track anything down on that. So probably this guy... Oh that probably has something to do with the... now you know that's actually a mob reference? Yes! That's the mob reference and i think that he does the russians like to do this all stalin thing they would not today when you know they take your family corny everybody grandma you know starting with grandma is uh... so that's it that's your russian mob reference and i think that the guy felt really bad news older um... likeness early seventies he probably don't feel really horrible about what are you done in sold out his vote and uh... because he had to but like most of these guys eat these people have no got no money

09:04 There's the part-time journalist taking pictures. Anyway, a couple of good links under the Hollywood Whackers heading at noagendershow.com in the show notes just more fuel on the fire there and it's a nutty thing that's going on here and no one apparently seems to really see it You know the only guy who wasn't there who I think is now elevated to status above everyone in Hollywood is Clooney? Clooney has malaria Oh man, no he's uh... luckily because of good medicine. If only he had had the vaccine John!

CHAPTER 04 / 41 Discussion

George Clooney Malaria Diagnosis and Piers Morgan Promotion

Actor George Clooney reportedly contracted malaria during a trip to Sudan to support the independence referendum. The news first broke via a tweet from CNN host Piers Morgan, leading to suspicions that the illness was used as a promotional stunt for Morgan's struggling talk show. A publicist later confirmed Clooney had recovered following proper medication.

george clooney· piers morgan· malaria· sudan· cnn

09:49 Well, all I know is he has malaria so he couldn't make it. That's not why he didn't go! Sure if you got malaria you're not going He's had malaria for a while now It flares up Didn't you watch him on Piers Morgan? No I missed that Oh my god You was on Piers Morgan? How did I miss that one?! Well, you know, Piers Morgan of course is failing as predicted uh... and no one's watching pierce morgan you can't watch the guy he's a british twit you can even say watching the money python show you can eat you can't even get to ratings with cloning got a problem here is that his clooney on uh... none of the pierce morgan shows i was gonna start this final segment with the by asking about the glory of being george clinton but use just told me that you've got about a malaria doesn't sound like great

10:43 You know, even with malaria it's just good fun. What? Being George Clooney is just good fun even with malaria! I mean you look at... What? Oh it reminds me of the time he was on Letterman and Letterman says you just get all the chicks don't ya Yeah yeah and that was the one oops sorry about that. ...over heating now George I thought it was down to me but it turns out its actually this uh..I mean you do get malaria flare ups quite regularly No, I've had it twice. This is just...I guess the mosquito in Juba looked at me and thought that was the bar. Which i didn't get that joke. The mosquito in Juba... Who's Juba? Juba is a place in Sudan

11:33 I guess. Maybe it's his girlfriend. He has a girlfriend named Juba, maybe the chat room knows. And he says thought I was the bar. It wasn't even funny George. What's his name laughed? Because Pierce is suck up that all he does is laugh There's more George Clooney contracted malaria. This is actually the Reuters video report, which is what this is better Because that has all the great memes in it During a trip to Sudan earlier this month, but is now fully cured according to a sp- Cured? Spokesman for the Oscar winning actor. A frequent visitor to the war torn nation Clooney was helping draw attention To a historic referendum on independence for residents of the mainly Christian South According to a statement released by his publicist it was Clooney's second bout with the disease It quoted him as saying quote This illustrates with proper medication the most lea- Boo!

12:32 proper medication this is a we got africa war torn uh... medication proper medication so it's like it was the spokesman they've been added on another gig he's taken on that but also gives clearly a a note of martyrdom well guys get malaria twice and works in africa can be reduced to about ten days instead of a death sentence news of instead of a death sentence Right his illness first broke in a tweet from CNN chat show host Piers Morgan Cluny is a guest on his show Friday January 21st at all orders I'm thinking now that it was a deal that Pierce because

13:14 the news broke. A promotion? Everyone was... The whole thing you think is a promotional publicity stunt, a scam! It possibly is but- Why would you wait if you have malaria or anywhere why would you tell Pierce Morgan and not anyone else yeah really that makes no sense I think he caught one so and all the news reports were quoting a tweet from Pierce like okay that's not news it's not how your report news This is a last-ditch effort to get it to promote the show that nobody's gonna watch anyway You can promote you know, you can get people to watch it once or I've watched at once Yeah, you watch the Condoleezza Rice and you turned it off in disgust

CHAPTER 05 / 41 Discussion

George Clooney Sudan Activism and Haiti Fundraiser Criticism

George Clooney discusses his commitment to humanitarian causes in Sudan during an interview with Piers Morgan. Criticism is leveled at Clooney for his previous involvement in the Haiti telethon, noting that much of the raised funds have allegedly not reached the victims. The hosts suggest Clooney's activism serves as a front for deeper political or intelligence interests.

george clooney· sudan· haiti· telethon· activism

13:54 Well, I just turned it off because it's just boring. He's like he's fascinated with whether she has the sniffles or not? I mean he doesn't get into any meat. I mean Larry King you know even though people think he was a softball tosser at least he tossed the ball this guy didn't have a ball to toss It was um that was very very interesting uh I did watch the uh...I watched the interview with Pierce and actually it was Pierce who was interviewing George and his dad. Oh, George always has a handler now one of the somebody yeah that's his handler for the day I did pull a couple clips the first one which i thought was outstanding in its ability to make me pissed off and angry was Clooney now talking because he of course like you know Pierce is very interested in showbiz angle

14:50 Okay, why are you in this? Why are you doing this George and he talks about other things He's done which she's been so committed to doing George. There are lots of Hollywood stars who latch on two causes and Sometimes more than one a sort interesting thing that you said recently where you said the important thing if you're gonna Do this you choose one cause And you commit yourself to it properly and you are passionate about that cause if expand on that for me but also explain perhaps in more detail why it was Sudan for you that really caught your attention and your passion. Well first of all I think the idea is that you have to, you know worked on a Haiti telethon for instance or the tsunami telethon there's things you can do uh... that you can get involved in Katrina they're elements

15:40 Notice he talked just briefly right there, the Haiti thing you know. The Haiti thing. George I have some and if I were Pierce it has some follow-up on the Haiti thing Mr. I'm replacing Larry King It doesn't mean that you can only be involved in one but if there's one that you care about you have to be informed You have to really You know you have to be able to and you have to be informed yet. You really know what's going on in Haiti answer the critics You have that get the critics like there no agenda show who are critical of your handling of taking all the money George be able And sometimes those critics being uh... for instance omer al-bashir is i'm not all while this year and i don't care a critic yet but we will answer him you know i have to be able to answer when i sit in front of the security council um... one of the rotating members of the security council or the chinese ambassador when they say well these are just rebels you can say well rebels on that thanks anyway plant if he informed

16:35 on it uh... and i think that that's the the reason that you have to tried to when i say pick one item doesn't mean don't help other people just means that they can stand right now is we he always starts a stammer when he's when these unsure what happened touching his nose the whole time all the tell-tale signs because if you clearly he'd be went out in broad brought him up with tons of money for haiti andy's it was so incredibly real answer has to be shown credibly involved in half this you know really think about it And it's bullcrap! Because now would be the time for George Clooney to stand up and say, hey this is really not okay. Because these people haven't received the money it has all been stolen It'd be a good if he did that right now or... Then I would retract everything I've said about George Clooney if he did that right now Yeah does he? Of course not But uh

17:28 Because you know we know that he's a CIA asset and I have just before we get to our The people who need to thank this morning or for producers. I think we have one or two If you listen to the following bits from this fantastic in-depth interview This setup and by the way Clooney isn't even in the studio He's on satellite his dad is in the studio, which was weird. Oh did you kid? Yeah, no it's pointless yeah So, if you listen to this bit with and bear in mind that Clooney is a CIA asset it gets really funny when you listen to what he's saying.

CHAPTER 06 / 41 Discussion

Privacy Rights and Nick Clooney's Media Commentary

Nick Clooney, father of George Clooney and a veteran journalist, claims that the battle for personal privacy has already been lost due to Supreme Court rulings and technological shifts. This statement is analyzed as a message from the "Ministry of Truth" regarding the normalization of surveillance. The interview also touches on the irony of George Clooney using satellite photography to monitor Sudan while previously suing paparazzi for privacy violations.

nick clooney· privacy· paparazzi· supreme court· journalism

18:04 So Pierce brings up the spying via satellite and isn't that weird seeing as George Clooney himself sued Hard Copy Entertainment Tonight. Remember this a couple years ago John? He was like, because they were invading on his privacy Oh yeah And he was leading a huge charge of...and this is when actually it's a little bit long than few years ago After Princess Diana was assassinated so-called by paparazzi that's when of course there was George to go and cover it all up other paparazzi are bad please don't look over here who might have actually assassinated her and there was George already early asset in so it's kind of ironic that he is now spying down to a one foot diameter in in in Sudan. A certain irony I guess, that you're now deploying

18:52 effectively paparazzi covert photography in the Sudan now I'm sure you'll argue quite rightly that it's obviously ostensibly the public interest to do this. Hold on a second! What? When your interviewing somebody You do not give them the answer and then approve of the pre-approved answer by saying the words quite rightly. But that's what it is! Thank you for assassinating that. Yeah, he was an idiot... I mean this is bullshit This is like well Adam, I'm sure you'll agree with me when I tell you that Of course you know this already That kind of interviewing is not interviewing

19:28 Oh but that's the whole point is taking to mind that this is the ministry of truth and waiting, waiting till his dad comes in. This is the British version we never use at the US when we do pull this crap We don't go well Adam you're gonna say quite rightly because if you don't say that it wouldn't be quite right no would it? You have to be right when you're saying this John said quite rightly now But it made me wonder both for you and your father Where you think the line should be drawn with photography and paparazzi? So, you know here's a not that again. He said photography just in general because we had last show We talked about that's what that's what I'm getting to stay tuned It gets better these people are about to tell you where your ad slave listen to this is great. I'm also watching your house

20:18 This is how you set it into the mind of people. I'm watching your house, Pierce. It's not just... Oh yes and we'll talk about it later because there's some cash coming in. You hear the fake laugh right? Because this joke was set up Because you need to understand that your house is being watched of course not by George Clooney But you are being watched and just listen to this. This is amazing in my look me and your girlfriend are good friends All right, she was just a little bit We're just we're just bad You drink a lot of milk You know where is the line for you George? I mean as one of the most photographed guys in the world Where do you think the lines should be tell you why ask this um

21:00 I suppose as an editor, I would play devil's advocate and say this to you. How do you feel specifically about a famous actor or actress? Forget that! Listen to his dad! One more thing i want to point out here for deconstructing purposes uh... when somebody's of you know instead of just asking hard questions he'd be p kind of says to play devils advocate which is essentially means she doesn't agree that he's going to be asking these quits a very interesting trick it is not a trick it's actually kinda disclaimer in other words i get you know i'm agreeing with everything you say

21:41 And, but just to play devil's advocate because somebody out there is going to want me to really ask a hard question. So I'm going to play devil's advocate and ask what kind of a hard question but I am already on your side on the answer? It's just the whole thing is bad it's really bad form this guy has which is why he's gonna get fired. ...their wedding or their baby's christening for a million dollars and they keep it... So he goes into some of that Hollywood bullcrap but then Pierce goes to his dad because this is where the real message comes in from his handler Let me ask Nick here, I mean you are a newsman and there is a fine line here because they commercialization celebrity particularly in last 10 years

22:21 has been such that many celebrities consult with paparazzi, I know that from the other side of the fence. They make money out of the photos. We've lost privacy so we might as well just admit to that. This is from the... George Clooney's dad, he's THE journalist! Hey listen slaves you have no privacy. You might as well just admit that. Some of the Supreme Court rulings some things that have happened after that there is no relatively speaking there is little or no privacy left Just so you know my son doesn't have it? YOU don't have it So therefore we none of us have it this is a message from the Ministry of Truth Anymore That battle has already been lost

23:04 It's a serious journalist. Unbelievable Yeah, so I could go on he actually you could go on in fact another thing it bugs me Pierce Morgan says The paparazzi thing and he says particularly in the last ten years is bullcrap Not the last ten years The funny thing is Clooney at the end Somewhere and one of these bits is like You know Bono used to do a good job but all this and essentially saying you know bonos out Really? Yeah, I think Bono's out. Did you see him at Sergeant Shriver's wake? No!

CHAPTER 07 / 41 Discussion

Special Executive Producer Donations and International Support

Baron Von Pelsmacher contributes $1,111.11 to the show, earning the title of Special Executive Producer and a knighthood for his wife, Catherine. Other significant donations arrive from Kelly Sponberg in Canada and Robert Wiltshire in Florida. The hosts note the high level of financial support coming from listeners outside the United States.

baron von pelsmacher· knighthood· donations· canada· value for value

23:42 I couldn't put up with much of the Sgt. Shriver. Yeah, well I didn't watch any of it but i saw stuff on the news and I saw like Bill Clinton and you know he's cracking jokes. Of course, Shriver was what 95 so had a great life to celebration of life and then Bono is there with The Edge playing some like uh... so yeah The Edge just playing acoustic guitar and Bono got to do with Sargent Shriver? Because! He's all part of the elite man That's what it is. I can't see Sgt Shriver and Bono hanging out in the ACP. It's the Kleiner Perkins connection, there's a connection there. The Shrivers are connected to KP with the Special Olympics and the Peace Corps come on man! The Peace Corps you understand how that works? I don't have to explain it to ya all the elites...in the morning to all the elites

24:28 Well, in the morning to our producers. Yes we have a few I believe We're having an uber title called Special Executive Producer Really? Hold on a second. Special Executive Producer, alright? Yeah this is... and I'm of the opinion at least currently that it's probably gonna only go to Baron Von Pelsma. When he chimes in we have to give him kind of a shout out in a different way So he'll be our executive, special executive producer for today's show. He gave us $1100 and 11 cents because apparently he thinks that... well he doesn't think, he has the impression let me just read his note always catching up to the older shows Just got this show number 250 is way behind sorry says I heard that basically paying Adams rent so i guess a better continue wouldn't want allow him would have no roof over his head

25:26 More importantly, today's brought a little karma to our family or more correctly to my dearest wife Catherine. She was in town, a liege and got her purse brazenly stolen while enjoying breakfast with a friend. It's amazing how much cojones some people... Cojones, he uses that word in Belgium. Baron van Pelsmacher! Wow! You shock me! Some people have to walk off with the purse in a busy eatery but I guess that's par for the course and these economically uncertain times the usual rigmarole of getting cards blocked mobile phones missing car keys missing etc were it not that some gentleman, a real one found her purse a little while later and all that was missing was the cash

26:14 all the rest was still there in the good man even took to trouble a come drop it off on the karma guys are ninety nine percent on the ball today and one cannot ever be thankful enough for that hence i would like to dedicate this special eleven eleven knighthood to add another day into the table namely katherine pels markers mosen uh... i doubt if ever i made her listen she would find that but with no i don't think his family knows what he's doing with their money this is do you have that feeling? If ever made her listen, she would find much to appreciate in the show or he doubts that she would find much to appreciate in the show. Or are theories by Haye Well do we dame her or not? Yeah! How come she's no on the list, Schill?! She'll be the unknown dame yeah why isn't she on the list because Eric is too busy bitching about boarding passes

27:12 And then we have an executive producer, Kelly Spongborg. Black Knight Kelly as we call him in the real world. Rocky Mountain House Alberta Canada where all the money is Second installment for Dallas Sponberg's knighthood Dame Andrea and Sir Kelly will be attending Macworld 2011 a Hope & Noah agenda meetup in San Francisco that week to help propagate The Formula set it up, I'll try to show up. Also if things get too hot in the USA remember we Canadians welcome immigrants as long they have a no agenda challenge coin or a mothership boarding pass perfect black knight kelly sponberg beautiful and we have a to associate executive producers of robert wiltshire from tampa florida who is also the sloan and soul member no longer can be a member of the two seventy-two club he is the uh... head of it and finally jared forester of re bridge

28:10 Regina, rhymes with Saskatchewan California. And this should finish the knighthood layaway so he'll be Sir Jared halfway through the show and this is interesting because we have three people of the four executive producers that aren't even Americans they're out of the country two Canadians who want to thank them a lot and then we have somebody in Florida so we actually have no Americans uh... at all that were executive producers this week we have a floridian oh and i've got one more time sorry i'm wrong steven litig in dallas texas two hundred five dollars admissions on mistimon the list here hey guys is my first donation no agenda given five dollars for each month to show has been online everyone should do that thirty nine months equals a hundred ninety five dollars of also giving an extra ten dollars for a car my shout out for me and my girls you've got karma

29:04 right on time to try and make a little human resource in their having some setbacks we appreciate any kind of your way thanks we can help with that too by the way just let us know where it will have to be as it is for all so you have a lot we had one american we have one floridian two canadians and sir steven well it just goes to show how uh... house at the state of affairs is in that united states of gilmore nation yeah no cares But you know what, tonight... And actually Texas might not even be counted as America. Tonight Kim and Khloe take on New York so that's the most important thing that is on everyone mind here. What is that? Kim and Khloe take New York! The Kardashians, the new season

CHAPTER 08 / 41 Discussion

No Agenda PR Duties and Ecosystem Products

Listeners engage in "PR duties" by playing the No Agenda podcast on display iPads in retail stores like Future Shop and Apple Stores. The show's "ecosystem" expands with the release of trackable geocaching pins and an Xbox music channel add-on created by the community. The hosts emphasize the unique grassroots marketing efforts of their "human resources."

future shop· apple store· xbox· geocaching· challenge coins

29:48 uh... you know i've never had a thing of ever seen that show value all your do missing a lot anyway anyone was to be the executive producer for upcoming show on thursday please uh... devoted to work dot org slash and a n contribute or go to your email boxes even find an e-mail we sent out couple of the p r mentions first of all matt stewart who did his p rd data duties yesterday in the future shop He took a picture of it and he might have taken a video of it actually. Yeah, he did take a video of it I think I've got it playing here Which is something? I encourage everyone to do He went to the future stop and left the latest episode of no agenda playing on an iPad there in the shop great yeah It's great just go ahead and turn that on and on go to the Apple Store That's a good place to do it as well

30:37 I received, John. I don't know if you received it but I received a No Agenda 101010 Super Karma 42 package in the mail this week Did you get yours by any chance? With all the little pins? Yeah Yeah, you know what I'm looking at all the pins by the way a couple of glow-in-the dark. Yeah, no it's great It's no agenda super karma calm and this is Sir Ernie I believe from think he's from Switzerland things are really nice man This is like this isn't no joke No The Pins are outstanding that quality is remarkable. I have my feeling about the various pins I think the one that i would wear, I mean wouldn't mind wearing it in the morning pin but this little number 42 is really cool. That's really cool yeah I agree. It's so obscure and uh... The dog tag one is so big and heavy that you do it drags my head down to the ground You have to be a rapper! You gotta be hip hop John not rapper we call him hip hoppers now. You have to be a hip-hop guy to wear these giant

31:39 and they're trackable, they're trackable by the way. I'm sure they got a RFID... Yeah no i went to geocaching dot com and activated it so now it's trackable around the world oh they are trackable? yeah that is great there's not like RFID trackable but you enter where they are in its it's fun it's a fun little thing I love them the glow-in-the dark though that's awesome anyways so that was nice quick shout out to Ludolphus on Twitter Who created a xbox music channel audio add-on for the no agenda show and link in the show notes under pr So now you can listen to the no agenda stream All four levels of it. Uh, The high the medium the low and I guess there's a fourth stream that I don't know about You can listen to that while you're playing your xbox while you're playing call of duty You can hear us warning about not playing call of duty

32:34 and uh... we have a lot of good ancillary uh... products in things that are going on but we do we like lots i mean it's not like one or two things is like dozens what we have another what the words only emails about that we haven't ecosystem as well we had a we have any go-sister system yeah unlike that week we got some sneak o system and very few shows out there have an ecosystem like ours. Or haven't had none, I don't know any of those shows guys! Where's Piers Morgan's ecosystem? He doesn't have no ecosystem So we want to thank our special executive producer Baron Steven Pelzmachers

33:11 uh... for uh... becoming a m member of the one one one one one one club and uh... again began to guys awesome and uh... karma to his uh... his family and i think we also have been reenacting of one of these kids that we have to take care of eric please take better care baron von pelz markers uh... executive producer black knight kelly spawnberg and uh... associate executive producer number two seven two club robert Wiltshire yeah and then also executive producer associate executive producer Stephen Liddick we really appreciate what you guys Jared Forrester did I not have Jared Forrester

33:50 You didn't mention him. I think you went from Wiltshire to Liddick, okay So when the show is done let's make sure I get all this right It was a little complicated today you threw an extra category for ya and Jared Okay Thank you very much everybody else out there We need you to go out do one very important thing which is propagating the formula our formula is this? We go out we hit people in the mouth Okay right So there's a lot of news, I don't know you got more news than i do. I mean I was watching a lot of C-Span and uh... Yeah I was watching, I watched some C-Span. I caught a little bit here and there. I caught a couple interesting

CHAPTER 09 / 41 Discussion

Bayer Aspirin Advertising and Consumer Perception

A new Bayer Aspirin commercial depicts a passenger on a plane who is surprised to learn that aspirin can be used for back pain, not just heart attack prevention. The hosts criticize the ad for portraying the American public as ignorant of basic drug uses. They also discuss the legal restrictions preventing flight attendants from distributing medication to passengers.

bayer· aspirin· heart attacks· advertising· pain relief

34:55 weird new things that have happened recently in terms of advertising and such. Can I do an Ask Adam right off the top here? Oh, well hold on a second John! I'm so glad you asked because we said we had this new segment... And I said we needed a jingle allow me to... Hold on a second You didn't expect this so early allow me to play a little montage When John C Devorah's got a burning question What should we do? Ask Adam

35:38 and then we have a great i mean we had an ecosystem here john the like sir jeff smith came in with all kinds of people would jingles so yes please feel free to ask me question okay i'm as you this is very simple uh... When you think of pain relief, there's one thing that goes... it's a historic drug for pain relief. It's just for general pain relief. Aspirin! It's for headache. What was it? Aspirin! Really?! That's interesting you'd say that because apparently Bayer believes that the public now thinks that aspirins only good to prevent heart attacks. Really!?

36:29 I'm going, I have to assume that from this commercial which is this baffling Bayer Aspirin ad. Let me set it up This uh there's a guy sitting in an airplane seat And he's rubbing his shoulder or something, and he's got a backache. I don't know what's wrong with him but something... And he bitches to the flight attendant that he is in dreadful pain and does she have anything for pain? She gives him a box of... A box by the way! I like to see that on an airplane. Yeah. A box of Bayer Aspirin and he says no, no, that's not what i want. And she has to lecture him because apparently the American public so stupid That they don't know what aspirin is for You can play it short Do you have something for pain

37:11 Oh, Bear Aspirin. I'm not having a heart attack... It's my back! It works great for pain Nothing is proven to relieve pain better than Extra Strength Bear Aspirin. It rushes relief to the site of pain Feel better? Yeah Thanks for the tip You know- THANKS FOR THE TIP?! Thanks for the tip!? What is that guy an idiot?? So here's the interesting thing Well next time you're on the airplane ask the flight attendant for some aspirin or a painkiller and she will say I'm sorry, i can't give you that because it's they can get sued. It's against the law! You can't have... They can't give you an aspirin so its double whammy is stupid. I have gotten aspirins from from uh... flight attendants but you have to go in the back and they have to pull them out of their purse. And they have to like sneak it out of their own purse exactly. And then say don't tell anybody I gave you this

37:59 The serious we all know the only pain reliever is this show well John John since you asked me and since I am not like the American public who has been indoctrinated apparently and only thinks that aspirin is for heart attacks. I actually know that That's really what I would prefer to have instead of ibuprofen or anything else? I like the old-school aspirin John here's one for you This is all I got? We can play it twice. That's okay, so this segment is Ask Adam not Ask John Dynorack. Yeah we've got a new segment here let me ask you what political movement is it what does the definition

CHAPTER 10 / 41 Discussion

Jeffrey Immelt Appointment and GE China Outsourcing

President Obama appoints GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt to lead the Council on Jobs and Competitiveness. Senator Bernie Sanders is heard criticizing Immelt for his 2002 comments praising China's low-cost manufacturing and for GE's extensive outsourcing. The hosts define the close partnership between the corporation and the government as a form of corporatist fascism.

jeffrey immelt· general electric· bernie sanders· china· fascism

38:42 of a movement that seeks to organize the country according to a particular nationalist strand of corporatist values and perspectives with emphasis on enforcing a collectivists form of political and economic organization based on a tightly prescribed national identity. Fascism! Yes, very good thing... Oh my gosh we don't have payoffs! Great now let me ask you this question John If you invite the CEO of the largest corporation in these United States of Gitmo to be your economic advisor, is that not almost a definition of fascism?

39:20 well you know what there's somebody is kind of like it is probably more what we're dealing with this uh... corporatism which is a form of fascism uh... i'd say yes to that so of course in talking about the shadow puppet theater where uh... the president got rid of paul volcker who actually i think was a is it was pretty good economist a pretty good guy and they took too many naps during the day except for the sleeping bit that was a little irritating he kept falling asleep in every meeting uh... but he's been around for a hundred years ago i was tired let's face it and then and changes the name of the committee to what do you change it to be

40:00 I don't know. The Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, which is total crap competitiveness and he announces this at the GE factory in Schenectady So I'm like, wow! This is the current CEO of not only our largest government contractor and our largest manufacturer. The company that makes light bulbs... You're beating around the bush there. No no no, I am leading up to something. Alright. I'm leading up to Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont

40:39 well that's yeah okay nice independent before i had a sense and this is one of those guys he's the reminds me of kuch in it because they're going to finish percentage percentage who is uh... whoever wants a loss as something brilliant right so this was actually december but this is before the christmas break he says the following about uh... at immel jeffrey imel now i have a one step closer to the throne and uh... and and we'll just listen to this genius course one of our major corporations and in fact is recent disclosure pointed out all the taxpayers of this country through the fed provided sixteen billion dollars bailout a general electric jill electric during the recent crisis this is what the head of ceo general electric jeffrey inbuilt are said

41:32 in 2002, December 6th. Jeff Inmelt head of CEO when I am talking to GE managers I talk China, China, China, China, China five Chinese you need to be there You need to change the way people talk about it and how they get there I am a nut on China outsourcing from China is going to grow the 5 billion We are building a tech center in China. Every discussion today has to center on China, the cost basis is extremely attractive

42:11 You can take an 18 cubic foot refrigerator, make it in China land it in the United States and landed for less than we can make an 18 cubic foot refrigerator today ourselves. End of quote Jeffrey Inmel Chairman CEO General Electric quoted at investor meeting on December 6 2002 G When GE recently had a couple of years ago some really difficult economic times, they needed 16 billion dollars to bail them out. I didn't hear Mr Inmelt going to China, China, China, China, China! I didn't hear that. I heard Mr Inmelt going to the taxpayers of the United States for his welfare check so i say to mr in melt

42:57 and I say to all of these CEOs who have been so quick to run to China that maybe it's time to start reinvesting in the United States of America. So that is just a little background on this great hero. Of course Jeffrey Immelt, great hero of the United States and even our friend Bernie Sanders is off-the mark a little bit because its not about manufacturing 60% of GE's manufacturing of course overseas a lot of it in China, China, China... uh... but the uh... that's what he said china china china and uh... but the big thing of course was it's g capital which is a huge finance arm and his i don't know where he gets his uh... his fourteen billion or whatever it's actually g in two thousand eight got a one hundred and forty billion dollar bailout one hundred and forty billion

CHAPTER 11 / 41 Discussion

Keith Olbermann Departure from MSNBC

Keith Olbermann abruptly leaves his position at MSNBC, with speculation surrounding whether he was fired or resigned. The departure coincides with the Comcast merger and Jeffrey Immelt's new government role. The hosts suggest Olbermann's exit may be related to his public humiliation regarding campaign contributions and the network's changing corporate landscape.

keith olbermann· msnbc· comcast· general electric· firing

43:50 that's the it's huge you know i'd i want to bring something up just kind of an aside here cuz it's a it did is it's ancillary but at the same time it's in the news and you can continue i want to continue with this but uh... so would be this week right after this happened by the way uh... keith olbermann just walked out there basically walked on our show he was fired he knew i'm not so sure that And because there's no, actually nobody is confirming that he was fired. Everyone says he was fired and TMZ says he wasn't fired He says that they...He was going to be fired by Comcast Because they don't like him I don't believe any of this is true! He has been sitting there stewing on this show He has been mad ever since they took him off the show as a..they punished him for two days

44:36 even though i don't care that for forgiving money to a democrat meanwhile is no coincidence at involved all of the sun gets his job at the white house and it was really the guy behind he's being punished right showing outrageous corruption and collaboration between general electric in the government and so and so overman is publicly humiliated for giving some money to a campaign contribution to a couple get i think he walked off the show because of this as possible uh... the timing is all interesting because we just had uh... head honcho from china here

45:14 We had the Chinaman. Yeah, so all this takes place... It's like why don't we just sell our own country down the river to China? I think-I think we are China! The way i look at it we're all just China. China. Let's do a joint venture or something make the two countries one and get it over with. Uh, I think it's done as far as I can see. We are China The other thing was, during this period in the last week and I don't have any clips to back myself up because the clips are a little too boring. It would be very difficult to edit down but there were some China hearings in Congress and they had a bunch of different people making all these commentaries. And one of the things, one of our representatives, a Republican from Fullerton who the Congressman is from down there was talking about how American companies go to China they buy into all that we're gonna help you set up shop here and then people should setup shop and then all of sudden their leases are dropped, there's new regulations or kicked out of the country, employees won't show up

CHAPTER 12 / 41 Discussion

Eric Schmidt Stepping Down as Google CEO

Eric Schmidt announces he is stepping down as CEO of Google, handing the reins to co-founder Larry Page. Speculation suggests Schmidt is positioning himself for a high-level government intelligence role, possibly heading the CIA or NSA. The hosts discuss the existing data-sharing partnerships between Google and national security agencies.

eric schmidt· google· larry page· nsa· cia

46:16 and the whole thing's a big scam. Well now wait a minute... So we can export our technology so that Chinese don't have to develop anything, they steal everything! So where does Eric Schmidt from Google fit into all of this? Because he just stepped down which was also very weird move because when you have a professional CEO like Eric Schmidt at Google stepping down and handing it over to Sergei No no his partner Larry. Larry It doesn't matter neither those guys are CEO material Larry's more so than Sergey, he is more of a CTO type. Yeah but still I mean... We all know that I wrote a column about this in the Market Watch. Oh really? I should go read it yeah. I discussed this in detail and the fact of the matter is known fact for curiously nobody else picked up on this It's known fact that Eric won out and he wants to work in government Right! For China

47:11 Well, he wants to... what's going to happen I think is gonna be the head of the CIA eventually. How beautiful would that be? It's probably if you think about it who is better equipped to be running a big organization that collects data? Either that or the NSA which is even a better fit They're already in partnership Google and the NSA Oh yeah He could totally run there! He flies jets too. He's a hot guy this Eric Schmidt oh he does fly jets? He flies his own jet I didn't know he was a pilot. Oh yeah, well those guys are pilots at Google They got the whole... they got the 767 so Eric can fly his 767 around too No he flies his G5 Yeah well i'm sure that's what HE flies but he probably is qualified for a 767 Guys who fly jets tend to want to get qualified for more and more jets You hear that Baron von Pelsmacher? Get me a jet

48:03 Rent is not enough, dammit! I need to be on par with Eric. Yeah... You wouldn't even fly your other regular plane around if it's not- That's too much!! No, it looks like its sold. Yeah no talking about the price of flying around, this is expensive. No, I can't afford that and I can't afford to fly a plane around anymore uh... that derrick and going to be what he had to worry about you want it the flies on the one in the papers on gas if he becomes head of the nsa or you know they have a job that needs filling is that is that bluebird head-of-all intelligence job right they've never found enough of a heavy hitter to take that job because they could make because they don't have a guy who's got even more information than they do well they did find uh... a new puppet to run the

CHAPTER 13 / 41 Discussion

Goldman Sachs Executive Joins the SEC

Eileen Rominger, a long-time executive at Goldman Sachs, is appointed to lead the SEC division overseeing asset managers and hedge funds. This move is cited as a prime example of the "revolving door" between Wall Street and government regulators. The hosts argue this appointment contradicts President Obama's promises to curb corporate influence in Washington.

eileen rominger· goldman sachs· sec· revolving door· regulation

48:54 the division of the SEC, Securities and Exchange Commission that oversees asset managers and hedge funds which of course is all about the tough new regulations that the Obama administration put in place on these horrible banksters that got us into all this trouble. So they found someone John, did you know that? Did you hear about this? They found someone to fill the position. Who? It's a woman and it's all women who I think have held this position in the past decade Her name is Eileen Roeminger Oh well that's interesting Do you know where she worked for the past 15 years

49:36 Goldman Sachs? Bingo! I'm just guessing off the top of my head. His formulas aren't that difficult to deconstruct. Shadow Puppet Theater! Yeah, 30 years ago... You're just taking a guess and you're right She managed equity funds at Oppenheimer Capital and then Goldman Sachs before becoming Goldman Sachs Chief Investment Officer for its global portfolio management teams And now she's joining the agency Yeah, that should make a difference. Yeah it'll make a difference to Goldman That's crazy Didn't the president promise us that this wouldn't happen? That we wouldn't have this kind of revolving door thing going on. You know, I think he was sincere in that promise and then when he finally got into office it was so corrupt... He's like oops! It's like you can't find anybody else because people if they want to, if you find an academic that might be able to do it they won't take the job or they have a horse's head in their bed the next morning who knows

50:38 Anyway, to bring it all full circle as I believe yes a corporatist and on the way to fascists states GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt says Bloomberg article quote The interaction between government and business will change forever. In a reset economy the government will be a regulator and also an industry policy champion A financier And a key partner Well, that's fascism. That is fascism! It's almost taken right off Wikipedia the way he said it Yeah So... Yay! Well we knew this was going on or gonna happen I mean i've been predicting fascism for a decade or more This is the easiest way to do things There was something I read now that you mention it What the hell was it that said this?

CHAPTER 14 / 41 Discussion

Phillips Colon Health Probiotics Commercial

A commercial for Phillips Colon Health is analyzed for its claim that the product helps "balance" the colon. The hosts find the phrasing and the testimonial's delivery humorous, particularly the line "that's the best part." The segment serves as a brief comedic break from political discussion.

phillips colon health· probiotics· advertising· constipation· balanced colon

51:27 nine reported about this is not a ashes and because somebody did you think he should be our yeah somebody brought up somebody have now may i wish it maybe something to go ahead knows that say what's there what it is this i can remember the person is but they've been made as weird comment and i was reading at or i was cd i was reading and i'm sure about how uh... freedom and democracy are incompatible. I'm thinking how does that, why is that? Why is freedom and democracy incompatible? They don't go together well so anyway well I'll do some follow-up on that. We can switch to a clip that's a short little clip that standalone clip...I don't know what it's about why even exist but uh it's the constipation clip

52:17 And here we go. She felt lost until the combination of three good probiotics and Phillips Colon Health defended against the bad gas, diarrhea and constipation. And it helped balance her colon! Oh now that's the best part! I love your work! Phillips Colon Health Ooh ooh that's the best part! It's balancing your colon You're right I don't know that is a standalone clip if i ever heard one. Standalone clip, it does nothing to say oh that's the best part! That is absolutely the best part when your colon is balanced that's not funny man being uh but wait you're concipated no but you know eat prunes that helps too so i saw the rocket launch

CHAPTER 15 / 41 Discussion

Delta IV Heavy Rocket Launch from Vandenberg

A Delta IV Heavy rocket, the largest ever launched from the West Coast, successfully took off from Vandenberg Air Force Base carrying a classified National Reconnaissance Office payload. One of the hosts describes seeing the vapor trail from Los Angeles. The launch is intended to enhance national security through advanced satellite surveillance.

vandenberg air force base· delta iv heavy· nro· rocket launch· spy satellite

53:04 Oh yeah, I wanted to ask you about that. Did you forget? Do you forget to watch it? I couldn't see it! Really?! It was so easy once I whipped out my compass and figured out which direction to look because of course Mickey would laugh because I'm always looking...I have no sense of direction on the ground when I'm in the air I'm okay but yeah I know but actually East, West. I don't know where it was looking so but yeah i mean i could see the uh... vapor trail clear as day oh yeah they're beautiful did you get to see that the this this the uh... were breaks off now see that with a and i could see the vapor trails like it occur leaky twist and then i guess where there was a separation in that was and i never actually saw the rocket is impossible but i'm and say i meant

53:50 Los Angeles and to see this thing at Vandenberg. That's pretty good I mean, that's that's quite a it's quite a distance how many miles do you think that is? Well, it can't be more than 200 well so but and it was clear as day I mean It was like no when they take off I mean the for one thing of the vapor trail which is more in vapors smoke too Yeah Smoke yeah, it's mostly huge and its huge and it's a little white last time when I saw was I say we was shabby she shot in a different direction it came flying across you can see the little dot the look you all you get to see is a little real bright pin like a pin spot really bright little way I couldn't see that I had binoculars that I could see bad I couldn't anyway so you see this thing going and this is huge thing I mean is as going like a bat out of hell this thing doesn't go slow me this is wrote rockin I'm is the whole process is less than five minutes

54:42 And then you see the, just a break. Like all of sudden it stops dead there's no smoke and then boom! There is more little trail of smoke and it keeps going with the little gap...and then its gone Well this was the second Delta IV heavy launch for the National Reconnaissance Office. That's the rocket you want to see, if you can get down to Vandenberg and watch one of those that's apparently the rocket you want to watch take off because that thing just lights it up it shakes the ground is a monster And your paying for it so might as well Yeah, they let you watch. I mean... This was the largest rocket ever launched from the West Coast John Oh wow Most important according to Mission Operations Jim Spanik most important is the critical NRO payload launch today which will significantly enhance the effectiveness and safety of the brave men and women defending our nation every day

55:38 LA police? It's... Bad boys, bad boys. Today successful launch represents the culmination of five years of hard work and exceptional skill in modifying the launch system to establish the West Coast heavy lift capability for the nation integrate this important mission Well, if they're going to start doing heavy launches off the west coast like this we've got to find some contact that get us down because it's worth the drive. To go to Vandenberg, to the observation area which is I think on a side of hill or something... ...To watch one these things within you know if your within a mile of it Or within how close they let you get It's apparently just an awe inspiring thing to watch The launch

CHAPTER 16 / 41 Discussion

Deepak Chopra and Canada Post Appointment

Deepak Chopra, a former CEO of a body scanner company who accompanied President Obama on a trade mission to India, has been appointed CEO of Canada Post. The hosts criticize the move, noting that Chopra benefited from U.S. taxpayer-funded junkets before taking a high-level position in Canada. There are concerns he will move to privatize the Canadian postal service.

deepak chopra· canada post· barack obama· india· privatization

56:21 Yes, I'm sorry. Yeah Naked woman just came walking into the we need diners wherever she would you get the camera hooked up? We need to we need to watch one of these things blast off because I think it's just a kick Oh, we're paying for it. We might as well yeah Let's say do somebody we find some Somebody out there who listens or show has a pal at works at Vandenberg and they should like start playing this show I forgot a really important clip When? Yeah I did. I got a 17 second clip that's so stupid, I forgot this is it today yeah right now it's back to the Obama Immelt thing Oh you left the clip out? Yeah I left the clip out and had a point to make So he was at in Schenectady New York and he boasts about how great he's doing for American business And this little ditty slips out

57:12 that's why i traveled india a few months ago and then jeff was there with us where our businesses were able to reach agreement export ten billion dollars in goods and services to india that's gonna lead to another fifty thousand jobs here the united states so it's of this whole speech is about how great he's done like you never will choose uh... went to him when we're going to india in that junket Deepak Chopra? Yeah. The head of the, the guy that makes the body scanners? It's it's the CEO Deepak Chopra. Oh yeah, not the other Deepak. Not the guy who talks like this. Well he may talk like him but the health guy... So on our dime he went to India and now the guys taking a job at Canada Post What?! Yes! He is now the CEO of Canada Post

58:05 The Indian guy? Deepak Chopra, the guy who Obama took along with Jeffrey and all hung out there in that huge junket that cost 200 million dollars. Remember that? Yeah I remember Right so this guy said thank you very much and then he went right to Canada Post and he's gonna do some... He like took the business to Canada Interesting No interesting lame Lame! You should at least pay back his flight Yeah really And expenses Well i don't know That's alright. It's not like Canada should be happy with him there. He is going to privatize it and screw them, but doesn't matter the whole point is they've been privatizing things left and right in Canada that don't need to be privatized But the point for me was like well that's lame The guy goes on our dime flies over there hangs out does a deal and screws us! Yeah exactly takes us straight to Canada Nice So talking about India I do have a clip

CHAPTER 17 / 41 Discussion

Alarm Clock Failure and Morning Routine

One of the hosts recounts a morning mishap where an old-school alarm clock failed to go off due to a manual AM/PM setting error. The anecdote describes the physical sensation of waking up late and the subsequent rush to prepare for the show. The hosts joke about "balanced colons" and the reliability of modern versus legacy technology.

alarm clock· user error· morning routine· sleep· time management

59:06 Uh, there was I actually have a series of clips. I didn't have time this morning to put them together so they would make uh... So i can have actually some humor What were you so busy doing? I didn't get up on time the clock didn't go off. I pulled it. I pulled a curry Well, you should try your iPhone alarm It's really great So, I have to go back and figure out. When i reset the clock, I think I put the AM to PM or some you know one of those mix-ups so it didn't go off so I wake up... Wait hold on a second! You have a clock that doesn't communicate? We'd like the central atomic time. It's not connected to a time server, you have an old school... It's a clock that is plugged into the wall it has batteries in it just in case the wall power goes out Right! It's an old-school clock that works unless I screw it up by flipping around from AM to PM User error User error So I wake up

1:00:04 it would you just have as everybody what sometimes you wake up in the wake up on and off during the night couple times maybe but usually don't wake up and sit-up like white something's wrong and that is your body has told you that your uh... you slept too long in years so was like ten minutes to eight music a lot of stuff yet yeah that's very happy seven to get my act together right says with the clips came a little late so anyway so i pop-pop at you know like Whoops, why am I waking up like this? And then I look over at the clock and it's like... Because your colon wasn't balanced. And I'm like oh man! So I just jump out of bed and rush downstairs to have something to eat

CHAPTER 18 / 41 Discussion

Carbon Credit Scams and Indian Cow Dung

A documentary highlights a project in rural India where methane from cow dung is captured and converted into carbon credits traded on the Chicago Climate Exchange. The hosts characterize the carbon market as an elaborate scam where American consumers pay extra to offset emissions through questionable international projects. They mock the "social angle" used to market these credits to Western buyers.

carbon credits· methane· india· chicago climate exchange· cow dung

1:00:49 make some tea. Alright, so what was the clip you were going to tell us about? You've got something... In the meanwhile I had there's a whole series of shows that this is on either Current or The Documentations Channel or whatever it is. There's a documentary channel now too and it was about carbon credits there's a whole slew of stuff have a bunch of clips on carbon carbon tax and trade yeah well the role of the yahoos so i'm looking at it and most of these are as a uptempo say how great is that all hollywood's gonna make it happen also but meanwhile they're telling mostly scams yet uh... well the women do you have a clip of someone saying hollywood's gonna make it happen

1:01:27 yeah let's hear that and i'd love to talk about this is very don't have a clip that's the only thing for me i haven't done it on i can send it to you but as raw must decide in produce the clip what's the uh... carbon credits from down well that's not what hollywood is and there was another similar so i'm watching this clip which has carbon credits from dong And apparently some companies packaged up, and I think they first... I'll give you the background. So what happens is they apparently in some part of India they have a lot of dung and so they take the dung and put it in a big pit and let it turn into methane then pipe the methane to various houses in the neighborhood and the methane is burned and that they sell these carbon credits because there's a credit that you can collect

1:02:20 because the dung producing methane produces so much bad, you know gas as it were that's bad for the atmosphere but if it's turned into... If is burned You get carbon credits because the carbon dioxide produces so much less than the methane that you can trade on the Chicago exchange even though this has been going on anyway and get money. So just play this whole clip and see how much money these Indians In other words, we're making it from poop. And here's what I'm for proving your way let me give you the punchline to the whole thing right off the bat These guys are trading these carbon credits so American companies who have cap and trade issues of some sort buy the credits, pass on the extra costs of the credits. I mean in other words like some company will buy these credits from India send them the money or charge the consumer of the United States of America extra money So we're essentially sending money directly to India for guys to burn dung.

1:03:20 Burn the methane and you release CO2, which is not ideal but CO2 is 22. Burn the methane and you release- You need to get up on time dude what's wrong with your clips? This is weird. CO2, which is not ideal but CO2 is 22 times less harmful to the atmosphere than methane so you still get lots of credits. Alright John your clip keeps repeating Oh I don't know why it's doing that. It's uh...I'll try one more time. No say take it up a little bit

1:04:06 Burn the methane and you release CO2, which is not ideal. But CO2 is 22 times less harmful to the atmosphere than methane so you still get lots of credits But one sacred cow can generate only four carbon credits. So Kishore needs a lot of cows to make this thing work. Fortunately, there are quite a few cows in India What we do is, we identify projects here develop them for carbon credits and then we trade it on the exchange the Chicago Climate Exchange primarily. We think there's an enormous opportunity in India. We have a fantastic project. The poor rural Indian family now has this source of energy for either heating or cooking It's a beautiful project because it has social spillover benefits

1:05:07 These are sources that are highly sought after in the carbon market. You want, buyers increasingly ask a social angle connected to your project and this such projects clearly have a social angle you have women and villagers collecting cow dung putting it into a central facility generating power or generating heat and steam for that and using it for their household chores they don't have to go out and cut down firewood So a carbon credit packaged by Kishore Bhutani and a bunch of farmers in rural India is brokered on the Chicago Climate Exchange. And methane turns into money. We were surprised when the bank official called us, and we traded about $1 million worth of carbon credits our very first trade. This is such an incredible scam!

CHAPTER 19 / 41 Discussion

European Carbon Credit Hacking and Voluntary Offsets

The European Union's carbon credit exchange was recently targeted by hackers, leading to the theft of millions of euros worth of credits. EU Climate Commissioner Connie Hedegaard expresses concerns over the environmental integrity of these projects. The hosts discuss the failure of voluntary carbon offsets, citing examples of dead trees in British Columbia and failed mango groves in India.

connie hedegaard· european union· carbon trading· hacking· offsets

1:05:53 Tell me about it! It's unbelievable. So we had the news that a lot of people emailed us about was that you know, about 30 million euros worth of carbon credits have been hacked out of an exchange this exchange isn't even sanctioned by the elitist pricks who are trying to set this stuff up Connie Hedegaard who is in charge of all biodiversity for the European Union She's like, well this is a good thing because we're barring those guys. They can't be trading over here that's not real It's like everyone is making stuff up and trading it and its turning into money John were so stupid I think you and I said to each other two years ago We need to get into this we need to make our own carbon credit And now someone has gone and made it from cow poop and look at us were stupid

1:06:43 We are so stupid. I know, they got a million dollars from cow poop and the whole thing... watch this thing carefully They had that this thing has already been established apparently in some villages they do have these cow poop You know it's like it's like a big pit Wait a minute sir! The whole idea is they take the cow poop Let me just get this straight They take the cow poop They bury the cow poop They sell a piece of paper that said I buried cow poop And they take the money. Isn't that what's happening here? Basically. This is so wrong! This is SO WRONG! And then who buys the paper of the buried cow poop? Apparently idiots.

1:07:27 They had a guy, there was a guy that was a follow-up story. I have all these done. The reason for that clip being awkward as I think is because...I don't know why they...I'll deal with that later but anyway There's another clip they showed this guy This hapless do gooder Some you know guy who is concerned about the environment so apparently in Canada You can buy your carbon credits It's $28 like 28 bucks for a flight to offset carbon offsets for your flight from Toronto to Vancouver. It's an offset, right? So the airline has apparently purchased that or they don't... They're not even are they in the middle who care? They're a middleman and they sell you the offset so if you want! The thing is voluntary which makes me really wonder about people but okay so I can volun..I feel guilty. I'm guilt ridden. I'm a guilt-ridden Canadian and i feel that I am gonna chew up you know so much terrible... I'm going to burn so much fossil fuel on

1:08:24 trip from Toronto to Vancouver I can offset this by buying some carbon credits at the kiosk when i buy my ticket cost me about 28 bucks so the guy apparently the Canadians did a deal with some farmer, some wood some guy who owns a bunch of acreage in BC and he plants a tree for you know couple trees. Right that's what we talked about planting some trees and selling the paper to people about that So I sold the paper, right we did. We talked about it and couldn't do it at all. We actually discussed doing this ourselves because we weren't getting enough from our listeners and were going to quit. We had one meeting and look where it got us! We're now able to say told you so

1:09:06 Well anyway, so the guy, this do-gooder apparently lives in BC and so he decided after he paid his 28 bucks to go check out Oh right! Very good. So he goes wandering around and they show the film of it And of course this is an uptempo piece kind of promoting it but at the same time on every time they turn around there's some scam and then the guy says that these trees aren't going to grow, and he's got it goes this place was overridden by blackberries. If anyone in the Pacific Northwest knows anything at all is that blackberries just wrecked the place I mean they just are...they're just terrible! So the guy out of good conscience bought some credits and then went to check on the credits and it turns out it was bogus

1:09:50 It was a, no they planted the trees but the trees were dead. And so apparently this happened with some band some rock band who also you know I can't remember the name of them but they apparently offset their concerts and so they buy...they try to mango tried to start a mango grove in India which is supposed to offset there cause grove died and then apparently a bunch of hollywood stars who are trying to sucker into this because they're so stupid uh... they gave up by two carbon credits during one of the awards ceremonies and then it turns out there was another failed experimented and so these guys who'd running all his carbon credit operation well you know we still

1:10:29 trying to play with the model and it's gonna work out because we have to do something about global warming on and on and i'm going to watch this whole thing is a outrageous scam man and the fact that anybody's buying into it in any way is amazing to me and it continues like that guy who went into the bc forces see these dead trees as well find some other way to offset my credits am I carbon use my carbon footprint i got offsets why don't say why don't we uh... here's coming First of all, we know that the number one resource that is eating up resources in the world and it's causing a biodiversity is the human resource. Right? Everyone says this! So... Of course were not going to kill people but why don't we with our no agenda human resources set-up a carbon credit where we'll all promise to not breathe for ten minutes a day

CHAPTER 20 / 41 Discussion

No Agenda Human Resource Carbon Credit Proposal

The hosts jokingly propose creating their own carbon credit system based on listeners holding their breath for ten minutes a day to reduce CO2 output. They suggest that instead of asking for donations, they should sell "No Agenda Carbon Credits" complete with certificates and stickers. This satire targets the perceived absurdity of the global carbon trading market.

carbon credits· human resources· breathing· biodiversity· stickers

1:11:23 That's, well I don't know about not breathing. I think you plant a tree No no no we just keep our mouth shut or we fart less We keep our mouth shut and we hold it in And we can measure that. We can measure how much CO2 were saving. I bet its just alot more than you think it is So if everybody spent... How long do you have to hold your breath? Well a total of 10 minutes in the whole day so you could do like 20 times 30 seconds Alright, anyone could do that. We have enough people we could probably get a carbon credit or two out of that. we have to do the calculations, some mathematician listens to the show could you that and then we can trade that on the Chicago exchange. Exactly! Or somebody's guilt ridden person who wants to fly from here to there I'm telling you well the thing is you gotta market it so you have to have a partner i'm starting to see how this works now you have to have a partner like an airline who was then going to be the middleman and sell it No they named their companies in this show There are bunch of these

1:12:22 companies that are the ones who sold the airline. They're the guys you want to get those are the people it's like carbon credits Inc there is a whole bunch of weird little company No, no but we become one of those carbon credit inks We become human resource ink I think this is the mistake we made to begin with I think this is a closed club of these guys. Well no, it's not John because this is what I'm reading that the EU climate commissioner Connie Hedegaard she saying these projects raise concerns relating to their environmental integrity value for money geographical distribution It's out of control they have no handle on people have jumped on this

1:13:03 because that new we have all of these you're right the hollywood celebrities who are selling it in everyone's i'll climb yeah i gotta buy me an offset yet it is in its in the psyche the biodiversity it's all in their people are ready for adjusting to final bit of marketing which is in your and we can do it all online we could have some beautiful websites right and how and you're going to buy a credit offset something we just have to find what what does everybody do with that they would that they need to offset So everyone uses their phone, right? And that's horrible for the environment. So we can sell a credit for using your phone! For using Twitter or something like that... I don't know, we could do this! We can do it! Come on John, we can do it! Let's do a show! I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda Imagine all the people who could deal with us Oh yeah, they'd be fab

1:14:00 We're already more than halfway through the show. What happened? Yeah, well let's thank some human resources for... In fact you know what John the answer is so simple it's right in front of us we should not be asking people to sponsor that to support the show we should be asking people to buy carbon credits to support the show Why don't we just... people can just buy carbon credits and then they can take this, we'll give them stickers certificates all kinds of stuff they can show to their friends. And these people also go yeah that's no agenda show thats good because you could it's a it's good for biodiversity

1:14:51 if you can buy carbon credits. It's some sort of... yeah, well we just sell the credits straight up Who bought some credits from us? Some carbon credits for this episode of The No Gender Show? Lawrence McBride from Moraton Merseyside at UK 1111 which is a we have a program now You should check it out go to dvork.org and check out the one by way somebody pointed out in an email one of our producers that this is a weird year because we have the four weird dates. We got 1,1-11 1111, 11-1-11 and 11-11-11 which is what we're celebrating with the 1111 thing. Right right And made mention that if you take the year which is 2011 and add your birthday how old you are

CHAPTER 21 / 41 Discussion

Listener Donations and Poker Karma

Listeners contribute to the show with various messages, including a firm specializing in property deeds and a donor who attributes his poker winnings to "No Agenda Karma." Another listener donates the equivalent of her monthly organic raw milk budget. The hosts provide "karma" shout-outs to supporters to encourage continued financial success.

poker· karma· donations· deeds· organic milk

1:15:56 Is this one of those three cube things that you're gonna screw up and I'm gonna get a million emails about it? We'll get to this later because i'll read it exactly because it's very interesting but anyway let's get back to this. Michael Berg in Solana Beach California, love the show can you please plug our firm site defendyourdeed.com well all u.s.a lol listeners who hate their lender must visit it's apparently has something to do with that the fact that they've lost most of the deeds to your yeah probably is who owns it won't you want your land a hundred eleven eleven cents uh... charles kohler in kim billy and new south wales australia i love the show sorry haven't donated sooner best-of-luck underdollars second mile productions

1:16:42 Suzy Morris from Brian's wife, Suzie. This is the amount I spend monthly for my organic raw milk really yes she had she has a you should check her website out uh... shy it's run dot com and put the show notices that will talk about that stuff bills act the fda i'm sorry p a uh... shield from on santo these so that you know now that uh... every division of the government doesn't have to listen to congress they can make their own rules and regulations and of course no one commented on the alfalfa genetically modified alfalfa allowance is coming up

1:17:18 We don't like that. Because no one knew it. Yeah, alfalfa is like a magical thing I didn't know too much about it but I started looking at it and we'll talk about that in the second but... Okay, chiatsrun.com $69 thanks Susie Justin Howard uh... fifty five fifty five like to call out top tim johnson is a douche bag and he's listed the show for quite some time i've told him for some time to donate alcohol amount if you doesn't do something as support this show me still hasn't moved on it uh... pfc howard east part first-class hard work yeah fort gordon georgia so that's where he's from

1:17:57 Patrick Griffin, Warren Michigan. Listening to the No Agenda Show while playing poker has given me a lot of good poker karma. Oh nice! I sent in a portion of last week's winnings, $55.55 just to say thank you i'm sending in a portion of this week's winnings to help keep the karma cooking Hold on let me give him some extra karma there hope he gets a big pot You've got Karma Yeah hit the big one if there are any poker players listening to the show I suggest you try tapping into some of this sweet no agenda poker karma don't forget to tip your hosts guess they wanted to take this opportunity Tip your dealers I want to thank John for adding more value to my valuing value for value philosophy. Okay? Daniel Hutner, Murphys California in the morning y'all one third of the way tonight who doesn't play on words and the CIA pasty formerly known as Richard Patsy

CHAPTER 22 / 41 Discussion

International Birthdays and Hollow Books

The hosts celebrate the 13th birthday of a listener's son in Canada and acknowledge a new donor from Sweden who recently received a raise. A promotion for "Free Hollow Books" highlights products designed to hide valuables or electronics inside real hardbound books. The segment reinforces the community's diverse interests and global reach.

sweden· canada· hollow books· birthdays· challenge coins

1:18:47 not a pasty he's a bastie the former CIA patsy formerly known as Richard Nixon I am NOT A DOOSH you've been de-douched well that's uh hotner has been dedouched yeah uh Rick Delinch delishney delishney yeah we got him on the list for uh knighthood no, no for birthday oh he's a birthday boy nah his son his sons a birthday boy greeting to his son Bryce Dulleshni from Oshawa, Canada. Where I looked at it where is that? He's turning 13 on 1 2 3 January 23rd one two three That's pretty cool Is a hard-working PR associate propagating the formula with all the other kids at school PS Thanks to Eric for the hard work getting our original challenge coins to us this month from founding producer Rick Dulleshni Christian Wallenberg Malmo Sweden and I've been there by the way

1:19:42 I bought a very interesting cough syrup from Malmo, Sweden. Only one that has opium in it! Hey dude just got a nice raise so at last I'm now a donor please give me some retroactive karma to make sure... You've got karma to make sure we really got the race never uh... will never be safe from the coming doom of the world but thanks to you dudes weekend at least see it slowly creeping up your demise is imminent send us some money please i think that's pretty good that's very reasonable thank you guys creeping out and that's the way it goes

1:20:20 uh... and then uh... free hollow books dot com in summer filled the north carolina we've added twenty new books to cite this weekend our biggest update ever as well as a new no agenda section where i was at the proceeds go to the show spanish gave us fifty dollars and fifty cents of five cents spent fifty dollars again america be it get a mention on this show and please de-douche Jason Schrader. You've been de-douched! Since he called, we called him out last year got on the $33.33 a month and bought a challenge coin hit me in the mouth with it over Christmas which means obviously he challenged him, he challenged him. And the morning to you both I'll be following hollowing out books is the guy who hollows out books these are really great i love these are by these are the best hallowed out book you can get so go to freehollowbooks.com and buy we you you these are books that have like if you know looks like an old book it looks like a real and no it's not a book i've got The Atlas Shrugged in uh... and i've got all kinds of

1:21:18 secrets in it. It's an old hard found book and you open it up, its been sealed in such a way that its got a big empty area and you can stuff money in it or other stuff whatever you want to put is one of those things that you see in mystery movies he also has them for iPads he's got hollowed out books for iPad this cool this cool stuff freehollowbooks.com Axel Braun Ludwigshafen, Deutschland. In the morning from Gitmo Nation's sauerkraut this is my first time donation $50 for a great show keep on doing the good work out appreciate some karma because I was soon have... You've got karma

CHAPTER 23 / 41 Discussion

ESTA Travel Fees and International Exit Taxes

The United States has implemented the ESTA pre-approval system for international travelers, which includes a mandatory fee linked to the ticketing process. The hosts criticize the system for discouraging tourism and compare it unfavorably to the "exit fees" charged by other countries. They argue that charging travelers upon departure is a more efficient way to collect revenue without causing initial travel friction.

esta· travel· visa· exit fee· tourism

1:22:01 I will soon have to be ESTA approved to be allowed to visit Gitmo Nation for 10 days. What? Yeah, this is a real problem if you now want to travel to the United States You have to get uh... I thought it was ETSA but i guess its ESTA approval that is remember we talked about this and now it's like you have to pay 40 bucks per person and you get in it's like a pre-approval process Are we trying to keep tourists out of the country? Yes! It's all for your security of course No, it's horrible. It's a it's outrageous. It's that right and remember this is the system where I got messed up in the system even though I have an American passport because of this if you don't pay your fee your estafi Then you don't get your boarding pass they're linking it into the ticketing system now. It's it's abhorrent Don't come stay away

1:22:54 Don't come to see us. That's what they're saying. You know, the way most... you know and the way they should do it you know if you're gonna pull this bullcrap you know you do it the way that Chinese doing there were these other countries do it is you have an exit fee. Right! That's true! There are many countries that.. And if you don't pay your exit fee you miss your flight Yeah, you miss your bus. That's the way you do it right? What are they thinking? Exit fee many islands have that islands have a lot of that cuz you like you're like oh yeah You're stuck there and all of a sudden you get to 200 bucks Like a family of four 200 bucks I know you go to these countries by the way this is a warning for people who didn't not used to traveling internationally but you go to these places and

1:23:29 and you know, you spend all your money and all of a sudden you get to the airport. You find out at the last minute there's an exit fee. Yeah 200 bucks for four people! And it's like usually...and you have to buy these exit little things but go to where there is a vending machine usually. Oh yeah. And whatever little money you have left you have to shove it in this machine and get this little card and if you don't have a little card to this exit visa, the exit pass to get out of the country they won't ticket. I agree with you it's really smart because now your annoyed when it happens but you want to miss your flight so you're all flustered like honey just use the credit card and then you pay for it by that time at home looking at the pictures or videos you've forgotten about

1:24:13 Right and if you do it, you have to think about it before going. You're like screw what I want to go It's a pain in the ass bad way to do it this is that this is our American government idiots We were okay with you charging the foreigners But yeah we don't care no but but do it on the way out Do it right? Yeah, so do it the way everyone else who smart does it jeez Anyway, yeah because just annoys people David Garaglia and I could mispronounce his name. He's from Santa Canaria, Brazil $50 John Lake Sacramento California $50 Judy Schwartz from Boam Texas Wayne

CHAPTER 24 / 41 Discussion

Value for Value Model and Knighting Ceremony

Jared Forrester and Catherine Pelsmacher are officially knighted into the No Agenda Round Table following their significant financial contributions. The hosts reiterate their commitment to the "value for value" model, refusing traditional advertising to maintain editorial independence. They emphasize that the show's quality is directly supported by the 1% of the audience that chooses to donate.

knighthood· value for value· donations· advertising· podcasting

1:24:51 Larcombe from Springwood, Queensland Australia all $50. I want to thank everybody who donated especially people who subscribed at 33 dollars and 33 cents or any of the other new initiatives a hundred eleven dollars 11 cent subscription which for knighthood and also eleven dollars in eleven cents what you're trying to get people upgrade their five dollar subscription too if they would upgrade to the eleven-dollar eleven cent subscription to celebrate 11111 1111 numbers And you can show your support and buy some credits. And by the way, our credit system works a little differently where you send us some money through one of our programs You make up your own certificate and then you tell us what credit you bought and what you saved

1:25:39 Go to Dvorak.org slash NA, we'll work on that. ChannelDvorak.com slash NA We need your support and appreciate your support I've got mine out you got yours? Hold on there it is. Oh nice. Jared Forrester and Catherine Pilsmakers please step forward We'll start with Jared Forrester who has patiently been working on his knighthood and he has made it so today we welcome him to the roundtable and hereby pronounce him Sir Jared Forrester, Knight of the No Agenda Round Table. And Catherine Pelsmachers now officially Dame of the No Agenda Round Table please join our Knights & Dames, our Hooker's & Blow, our Red Boys and Shardaday! We highly appreciate your support

1:26:28 It's very, very welcome and we would be absolutely nowhere without it. We joke around but man do we really mean it! I mean it and I think John does as well. No, Pell's Mockers is our one in two feature. Well everybody even the $5 a month, its starting to add up. huge difference. Yeah, we'd like to have more of them but you know... It's still 1% of the all donations are still one percent of our entire audience so you're all one percenters and we highly appreciate it and some are boners not donors But you know, you're pressuring people into doing it and that's a good thing. Yeah by the way we provide a lot of entertainment value and informational value in stuff that you guys can use in your cocktail parties It's cheaper than a movie And we do this a lot I mean we do twice a week four hours a week is great for commuters if your commuting you probably listen to the show now

1:27:19 and it's not like we're not doing anything for that for this i mean we don't want to take advertising or not going to take ever tell them what you were killed a show before we do that but luckily people are supporting the show straight up and we appreciate then i think we got lot more money this week or the show because he did a better show i think has led to the quality does have absolutely has to do with the quality of showing i think last week shows great and I think that shows in our donations, and thank you very much. That's all i can say... And I can say this! See singing also gets the donations out with it. It is scientifically proven

CHAPTER 25 / 41 Discussion

George Vanderhorst Birthday and Dutch Ringtone

A long-time supporter and sticker distributor, George Vanderhorst, receives a birthday shout-out. At the request of his wife, Adam Curry records a custom ringtone in Dutch, telling George his phone is ringing. The hosts acknowledge Vanderhorst's efforts in propagating the show's brand through physical media.

george vanderhorst· birthday· ringtone· dutch· stickers

1:27:57 Rick Dulleshni wants to congratulate his son Bryce Dulleshni turns 13 today on 1, 2, 3 happy birthday from your daddy-o and from your friends here at No Agenda. And John I received an email from Audrey And Audrey is, I guess...I think they're married. You know George Van der Horst who was donated quite a bit? In fact George has got the No Agenda coin. Audrey sent me a whole note from his account by the way she hacked into his email account to send it and make sure i saw it

1:28:34 uh... he does the no agenda stickers he puts in everywhere whenever is a traffic jam you put some on that on the ferry boat and gas pumps he's a founding no agenda stream producing all pumps yes because his uh... his kids midget slaves by evening nights and it says birthday and she wanted us to send out of big happy birthday to him so we are happy to do that george thank you for your support and i know that our issues Send me a little picture of the two of them there. I've never seen her picture George lucky man and And what she really wanted is if we could do a ringtone for George for his birthday, would you like? No, no like did something to say his name it's always funny

1:29:22 When you say his name. You just want me to say it? No, unless somebody requests... She wants an odd name. George Vanderhorst is that a hard name to say? Well, say George Vanderhorst Je Telefon Gaat What?! Je Telefon Klunk? George Vanderhorst Je Telefon Gaat! George Vanderhorst Je Telefon Kluuscht I think that will do it. Okay, thank you! I think that's perfect. I think she's your telephone is ringing or what does that mean? Yes means your phone's ringing exactly huh okay well yeah good luck with that so within a few weeks according to numerous reports John we will have a second Sun in the sky have you heard this

CHAPTER 26 / 41 Discussion

Betelgeuse Supernova Rumors and Earth Upheaval

Reports circulate that the star Betelgeuse may soon explode into a supernova, potentially creating a "second sun" in the sky for several weeks. Simultaneously, geological activity in Northeastern Africa suggests the continent is splitting apart near the Red Sea. The hosts also mention a street preacher in Hollywood predicting the end of the world on May 21, 2011.

betelgeuse· supernova· africa· stargate· end of the world

1:30:17 This is a report that's come and gone a couple of times. Oh really? Does this have to do with Planet X or what? No, this is Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice... I'm unaware. Beetlejuice is losing mass or fuel in its center and will explode when it runs out creating a second sun in the night sky This is a star, Beetlejuice. It's also a movie but we know it as the star. Oh there's... well yeah but is there another movie too that besides the movie? I think Beetlejuice 3 might be on its way however when the giant star which is much brighter than the Sun explodes there will be no night for several weeks on Earth this will be supernova. What a crock of crap! But here's the tip-off it could happen tomorrow or in a million years

1:31:07 So yeah, I think in Beetlejuice the movie part... there's already been a part two hasn't there? It's gotta be it's got to be the third Michael Keaton. Well Michael Keaton has his other movie coming out too The Ark Movie But uh, a lot of people talking about this and The Stargate is opening for sure now. The one with the fish yes Uh..The Earth is an upheaval in North Eastern Africa The region is changing very quickly, John. The desert floor is quaking and splitting open Volcanoes are boiling over And sea waters are encroaching upon the land Africa, researchers are certain Is splitting apart at a rate rarely seen in geology And this fracture... ...is from the Red Sea to the Gulf of Aden There it is! The Gulf of Aden where the Stargate is located

1:31:57 So you can just wait for it. They got pictures of this now, they got pictures of Africa splitting apart Well I think we should send the fishing boats from Japan into that area because the fish will be... Just coming all kinds a weird fish Well I find it highly interesting The earth is definitely tumultuous I saw guy on Hollywood and Highland yesterday And he had a sign, I was too bad that it was in the car because i would have taken one of his pamphlets. He had a sign uh... The end of the earth May 21st 2011 Uh.. It's biblical

1:32:34 and it is that the other side said yeah it's biblical interview these guys when I know I know I would have loved to talk again yet pamphlets but he was on the other side now is in a in the car I was gonna you should've pulled over not this simple at the corner of Hollywood Highland but uh... may twenty first two thousand eleven apparently his is when the end is coming according to my then did these guys are you know hey you're not staying out hollywood highland for nothing You clearly know something if you're doing that. And that's dedication, and we do it two days a week We do the show these guys are out there all the time so... You know I've talked to a lot of these guys Which because when you finally break? You know decide to talk to one of them you realize that many of them are erudite What is they actually have a story to tell and its reasonable Yes! It sounds reasonable! I Know what Im saying its absolutely reasonable

CHAPTER 27 / 41 Discussion

FAA GPS Interference Testing in the Southeast

The Department of Defense and FAA issued a Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) regarding unreliable GPS signals across the Southeastern United States due to military testing. Similar tests were recently conducted in California, affecting a large radius from San Francisco to Los Angeles. The hosts speculate on the nature of these tests, suggesting they may involve ultra-wideband communications or electronic warfare exercises.

gps· faa· department of defense· notam· interference

1:33:27 That's what so weird about it. It's not like they're crazy. Oh well, I mean they are but it's not like they sound crazy Well the thing that is disconcerting and I also spoke to...I sent an email to our Baron because he has some connections in the business and a couple other people I think it propagated because Engadget got ahold of a NOTAM notice to Airmen by Airmen, N-O-T-A-M that said that come February in the southeastern US the Defense Department issued a notice to airman that GPS signals would be unreliable for about a month and uh... yeah oh yeah this is quite amazing if you look at the map it reaches from Alabama in the west too far beyond the coast of the Carolinas all the way up to Virginia

1:34:23 and uh... remember it sounds like the bermuda triangle well ended this is interesting because this is what everyone was emailing me about uh... the defense department will be conducting tests between january twentieth so that's a sorry underway in february twenty second of and these tests will act there will be activated for forty five minute periods followed by fifteen minutes of off time and uh... gps signals may become unreliable at that point now there is a another no tam because i of course not when looking for it and this is for the west uh... and this is four are january sixteen to the twenty third so just ended centered in port of porterville california exact same thing however as a little more information about this is that uh... apparently

1:35:19 I mean the GPS is a very simple system. You got satellites in the sky and they send down a signal, and your GPS is just a receiver and it has to locate at least three of them. I guess most these days get like 12 or 14. And it triangulates so knows where you are Yeah, it can do a fairly decent job with two and a third one occasionally So the only way to mess up GPS is by broadcasting on the same frequency which is 1.57542 GHz and 1.22760 GHz, so they're broadcasting on those frequencies this is not a harp frequency because those are much much lower

1:36:05 So I don't know what it is or... Well, it could be a UWB test too. Ultra Wideband which impinges on GPS numbers But why would they do that? The FAA's not really saying what its for and no one really knows And hopefully most airmen have indeed read this and know about it now because It's messed up when your GPS doesn't work I mean a lot of pilots today have pretty much grown up relying on these things, don't do much with the old steam gauges anymore. And it's quite dangerous! I think they're testing a communication system Something... They're doing something But the FAA really doesn't say anything about it Just like yeah we are testing This is government It's just some defense department thing Yeah well I don't like that

1:36:53 Well, they'd have to test once in a while and they try to make it so it's you know doesn't impinge on too much. Porterville I mean who flies there? Well no but the circle is all the way San Francisco to LA I mean its big circle. It's very big circle. Okay well we'll keep that in mind There were a couple of, let's see I did have a couple of clips. I had a couple of real Gitmo Nation clips which i thought would be interesting to share with the group Did we mention Dvorak dot org slash NA? Why don't you do that again just to make sure Well make sure...I'd like really like to encourage people go to dvorak dot org slash na and support the show

CHAPTER 28 / 41 Discussion

Denver Taxis on Patrol Program

Denver, Colorado, has launched the "Taxis on Patrol" (TOP) program, training over 1,200 cab drivers to act as mobile eyes and ears for the police department. The hosts express concern that this turns service workers into government informants, potentially leading to racial profiling or harassment of passengers. They describe the initiative as a "nightmare" for civil liberties.

denver· taxi· neighborhood watch· police· surveillance

1:37:35 or channeldvorak.com slash NA yeah all right so in the continuing effort to turn Americans against each other and it's happening worldwide all across Gitmo Nation fill in your own language they could call at these citizens network, the neighborhood watch as in watch your neighbors, burgenet you can call a million different things its now expanded in Colorado you might say their job is commuting for other people People who make a living putting miles on a car and visiting neighborhoods all over our communities are now a key element of the Neighbor Watch program. 9 News reporter Cori Rose explains They're on the move all the time, they drive 24 hours a day 365 days a year so why not have them as an extra set of eyes? Denver is one of the first cities in the country to start the TOP Program Taxis On Patrol We believe that this effort is going assist us

1:38:28 By the way, this is a cop and he looks... He's got his sunglasses on. He's not in uniform. He looks like a gangster! Looks like a total mobster! Making our community a safer place to live play and work Four of the major Denver taxi companies are now teaming up with the Denver Police Department To be first responders when they see or hear anything suspicious while on their routes We have an intense training program that we have developed for the cab drivers who would like them to talk to our communication center provide detailed information and description. Nice little train subliminal in the background there on what they're seeing exactly types of services that are needed after everyone is trained there will be more than twelve hundred drivers on the streets of Denver serving as a mobile neighborhood watch on wheels joining together to give back to the community thats giving back to the community John

1:39:18 Yeah, it goes like this. I give you a ride and I'm a cab driver. Right. Alright. I pick you up and drop you off... Hold on a second! First of all if your really a cab driver i can't understand you Ok well you can understand me but you dropped me off. I dropped you off and you shorted me Yeah, right. It's like where's my tip? Screw you man! Where is my tip?! Okay then I call the cops on me. This is suspicious behavior some blonde haired guy...I dropped him off at this address and I think he's a terrorist That's it but yet they have a rigorous program in place They've trained all these cab drivers This is a nightmare! This an absolute nightmare

1:40:02 I mean, Denver cabbies. I think a lot of them last time i was in Denver which is awhile ago A lot of them were Colorado born and bred but Los Angeles San Francisco New York They're all Pakistani Are you kidding? No! In LA they are Russian or Iranian Oh there's alot of Iranians yeah there are alot of Iranian cab drivers here and their You know, it's like this is just a nightmare. It's a nightmare! No, this is ridiculous. I think this is a great program and I think its great for our community. Uh...I think that people can feel safer in their communities knowing that you have extra eyes out there helping the police department to solve crimes and keep our crime rate low and keep our streets safe. In Denver, Cori Rose 9 News Keep Our Streets Safe Yeah, it's good. It's really good

CHAPTER 29 / 41 Discussion

San Francisco Smile Day Initiative

Students at AP Giannini School in San Francisco participated in "Smile Day" as part of the school district's "Respect Week." The program encourages children to be more approachable and friendly to one another. The hosts mock the forced nature of the initiative, noting the irony of teaching children to smile while other societal pressures increase.

san francisco· smile day· education· respect week· schools

1:40:54 frightening is what this is well it's good I gotta have a more uplifting initiative going on here in the Bay Area okay that's a new school idea oh we're always for education here at the no agenda show yes very educational hit it yeah That's right, smile! Students at AP Giannini School in San Francisco encouraged to smile at each other all day today. Today was Smile Day as part of Respect Week in the San Francisco Unified School District. You can wave too. The reason for Smile Day? It makes people more approachable. Much easier, of course, to get along when somebody smiles and appears friendly and shows off their braces... you were smiling about 150 times.

1:41:44 Respect and smile. By the way, did you hear that in the background there's a kid like screaming in terror? Did you hear that? Yeah! They brought a camera to this school and the kids went crazy. Friendly and shows off their braces... You were smiling at about 150... I find it was back little. It was really funny. For Smile Days? Yeah In the San Francisco Unified School District, you can wait to... The reason for Smile Day? It makes people more approachable! But easier of course to get along with. Yeah there he is.

CHAPTER 30 / 41 Discussion

EU Sartre Project and Autonomous Road Trains

The European Union's SARTRE project is testing "road trains" where a lead truck wirelessly controls a convoy of autonomous private cars. Researchers at Volvo's test track in Sweden claim this will improve safety and allow drivers to eat breakfast or read the newspaper. The hosts criticize the project as a waste of money and highlight the potential dangers of signal jamming or hacking.

volvo· sweden· autonomous vehicles· road train· european union

1:42:22 Well I think that's a good initiative. Yeah you know competition there is no competition There is carbon credit in there and smiling isn't there? There should be a carbon credit, we should probably find some way to sell it to the exchange Let me go to Gitmo Nation United States of Europe Very interesting use of your soon-to-be European global tax money The Sartra Project Which is quite an interesting one. This is actually kind of almost an Ask John segment, tell me what's wrong with this idea? It looks like any other truck that just happens to have a private car very close behind it but what is unique is that this truck is the lead vehicle for a platoon The car in this platoon drives autonomously and communicates wirelessly with the truck

1:43:13 After more than a year and half's concentrated work, these proud researchers here at Volvo's test track outside Gothenburg are able to unveil the embryo to what sometime in the future will be a road train. The lead vehicle is driven by human driver and we're monitoring how that driver is driving so looking at steering wheel angle and speed and accelerations and those signals are measured and communicated to the cars which are behind And these cars which are following our driving autonomously So they try to copy What the truck driver has done. But at the same time... So you get the idea, right? It's so that a truck is driving and then you have this system on board You pull up behind him, you engage And then your car basically follows the truck and does whatever it does but more cars can get behind you and you're a trail

1:43:59 and you are actually a human train. It gets better! We're using sensors in the vehicles that measure distance between the vehicles... And this of course costs hundreds of millions of euros, this stupid project So we have an extra mechanism for keeping safe distance between the vehicles I encourage anyone who listens to this show get some money for a project like this This is great And of course it's all for biodiversity. The goal of this EU project is to make tomorrow's traffic both safer and more environmentally sound. As a driver within a road train, the idea is in fact... Here he comes! What is the point of this? John what is the actual point of this project?

1:44:36 It's either to prevent global warming or to, I have no idea. Well here it comes! To be able to both read the newspaper and eat breakfast There you go What? Yeah so you can read the newspaper and eat breakfast Why don't you read the newspaper before you go to work My question is if you have a car that is driving itself like The Jetsons why are you reading a piece of ink on the dead tree why don't you have like the screen like yeah have it really high tech You know like an iPad falls out of the ceiling or something. You're reading the newspaper and eating your Cheerios, you stupid human resources! Next you'll be sleeping in the car. Yeah that's what I'd be doing. That's what it's about. Be a human resource? Of course when the truck hits something and everybody piles into it that will be another issue. What happens when somebody goes past a jammer

1:45:30 Yeah, right. So the radio signals are jammed for just a split second The cars just go scattering every which way and what happens again? I don't know so hackable It's ridiculous And you know it's gonna get hacked mm-hmm You just let's take car number three and ram it into a tree I mean this is not practical these people are insane wasting money stealing stealing money all right um I did want to touch briefly on that alfalfa thing yet i'll talk about that this is actually is kind of interesting so uh... tom billsack who was a monsanto shill everyone knows it he had been showing for the before he came into the e p a uh... and sold essentially tomorrow

CHAPTER 31 / 41 Discussion

USDA Approval of Genetically Modified Alfalfa

Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack is expected to approve the legalization of Monsanto's Roundup Ready genetically engineered alfalfa. Organic farmers express concern that cross-pollination will contaminate their crops, making them ineligible for organic certification. The hosts discuss the legal difficulty of fighting Monsanto, given the company's significant political influence and financial resources.

alfalfa· monsanto· usda· tom vilsack· gmo

1:46:18 a regulation will be pushed through to allow genetically engineered, all these they say in one sentence it says GE the other one they say GM so genetically modified or genetically engineered alfalfa uh... to be legalized in the united states for use. It's like the USDA I should say I'm sorry So They're going to do like a partial allowance of it and Vilsack is of course the agriculture secretary and so apparently they had this up for public comment on some website somewhere that you could say something about it, and of course no one knew about it but the public comment period expires on Monday.

1:47:02 And then they're just going to go ahead and do whatever. So the problem of course with alfalfa is that if you have, if you're growing alfalfa and it's the same thing with...and it's all Monsanto Roundup Ready stuff by the way. And your neighbor is using the Roundup Ready version, of course you are going to get contaminated and then you can't be an actual organic grower So there's a number of links in the show notes about this which is quite interesting, but alfalfa is kind of magical plant. I didn't know this John. People take this for liver problems... actually it seems to be if your colon is unbalanced, alfalfa can help you

1:47:40 uh... all kinds of amazing stuff but what do you know about alfalfa i know that they feed the animals with it you know let me tell them to bring something up in a sense of mine welcome and i'm going down fountain of knowledge yes There has been incident after incident where some poor hapless farmer's got some regular crop and then he's got the Monsanto crop nearby, and the next thing you know they're cross-pollinating. And Monsanto and these other companies a number of them sue the farmer for stealing intellectual property when they grow the next year's crops. When they replant it yeah Now I don't understand this and i think that could just could be an ask Adam thing but uh... You're not going to answer the question because its essentially unanswerable

1:48:25 Well, it's answerable but it is a call to action. Which is why don't organic farmers sue? Not let get sued but they should sue Monsanto for them... Are you kidding me?! Are you joking!? You're joking, right? They should sue Monsanto for contaminating and ruining their business. Who has that kind of money?! You can't fight Monsanto anymore! They're too big! They've given money to more than half the entire hill! You can't win... They should sue Monsanto for ruining their business And when people... Do you know what a lawyer costs these days? John this is the stupidest question you ever asked me

1:49:08 it's not a question is a call to action no one's gonna do it because these little organic farmers they just like that trying to get by class-action now it wears erin brockowitz when you need her she's getting promotion i don't know that that's really what you need is isn't there when erin brockowitz type person but yeah no i don't think that's going to happen uh... they should but you can still try and write in uh... to the food democracy now at how it's a division is amazing these people are all stooges for the news companies yes this has gone down to do is this reaction pathetic you know i had a clip here that i forgot we should play before the donation plot of break but on a plate anyway

CHAPTER 32 / 41 Discussion

Media Framing of Healthcare Repeal Debate

PBS NewsHour host Gwen Ifill is criticized for her phrasing during a report on the House vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act. Ifill stated that the House voted to "repeal healthcare," which the hosts argue is a biased framing that implies the removal of medical services rather than a specific piece of legislation. They cite this as an example of subtle mainstream media manipulation.

gwen ifill· pbs· healthcare· obamacare· media bias

1:49:51 Unless you got more to say about alfalfa, that's all I know about. No no that's all i got but it seems to be something very magical for you and you can feed it to livestock Yeah and its healthy, it is good So I ran into this little thing from our national treasure or one of them anyway the News Hour uh... notice that this is the show i think washington week in review some like they were glenn highfall the woman who wrote the book of the up a book praising obama and she was also ahead of one of the debates and had to go and jim's talk about how she wrote a book about all right this yeah i remember she was she was moderating debate it wasn't controversy because she uh... she's receives a little while on the fence as he she's got his you know so we're not going to get any objectivity from her

1:50:36 but i ran into this disuse of language that i just thought was fascinating because what she's done here and I don't know where it means she's a Teleprompter, she is talking head so this has got to be on the prompter and she had to...I think she's one those that writes her own copy. This is really very twisted way of discussing the recent debate in Congress about repealing Obamacare Can I do it? Yeah, thank you. The meanwhile on the house side they voted to repeal health care this week Which doesn't mean healthcare will be repealed and Republicans said the law will kill jobs But Democrats said it won't in other words It was a debate that took us through the political looking-glass again right so So I'm listening to this I'm going what

1:51:25 This is not repealing health care, it's repealing the health care bill. She's actually saying repealing healthcare as if there's going to be no more healthcare because of those evil Republicans! I just thought this was the most twisted subtle piece of crap i've heard for weeks on end That's very interesting let me listen to that again uh let me just reset it here Okay, thank you. Meanwhile on the House side they voted to repeal health care this week which doesn't mean healthcare will be repealed and Republicans said the law will kill jobs but Democrats said it won't in other words it was a debate that took us through the political looking glass again And I don't know if she's doing it purposely or if its just gotten to this point where it so crappy in them mainstream media that this is just what it is

CHAPTER 33 / 41 Discussion

Walmart Sodium Reduction and Food Labeling

Walmart announces a partnership with First Lady Michelle Obama to reduce sodium in its food products by 25%. The hosts point out the scientific inaccuracy of labeling "salt" as "sodium," noting that pure sodium is a highly reactive metal. They compare this labeling shift to the rebranding of high fructose corn syrup as "corn sugar."

walmart· sodium· salt· michelle obama· labeling

1:52:18 I think I caught one similar to that. Sloppy! What is salt? sodium chloride. Sodium chloride, right? It's not sodium it's sodium chloride Right! In fact it is a salt of sodium. Pure sodium is explosive if you actually ate sodium literally your stomach would explode I mean you'd literally have an explosion like in the movie Well this is very interesting So first lady Michelle Obama uh... in her own fascist way has now connected the government to Walmart as she came out joining forces with more wal-mart for healthy food campaign it could be couldn't be was all retailers it's only wal-mart I wanna stop you right there and we have to do something going on with wal-mart has been too much publicity yet that there we have to get behind me what we're gonna have to be in wood listeners out there were gonna look into the public relations firms that are then doing wall mart I'm convinced they have a new firm of late

1:53:19 and they're pushing this Walmart, Walmart is good for you meme. Here's what I have to ask you because both Walmart and Domino's Pizza who will be...who have a new program the Smart Slice for school pizzas all talk about reducing sodium by 35 percent. So you're telling me that we actually put sodium in the food, not sodium chloride but sodium? It says here, sodium! You're saying that we would explode if we ate actual sodium maybe there is actual sodium in the food maybe it's not sodium chloride I'm looking at the packaging from Wal-Mart... It says sodium so its mislabeling at best

1:54:01 It says, all the label... I'm looking at the Walmart site right now and it says we're reducing sodium by 25%. So but they can't. But they shouldn't be putting sodium in the food! Shouldn't they say salt or sodium chloride? Well, they... yeah. They should and I don't know why it's always deteriorated to just plain sodium. It is the reverse of corn sugar! I think it's very dangerous when you don't use that if you use either you say salt which everyone understands salt you have to reduce salt okay but there is literally says sodium and sugar will be reduced please tell me not putting sodium in our food

1:54:40 But I think they might be! No, they're not. They'd explode! The oven would blow up! You used to do this in school when the olden days when we actually had real chemistry classes and kids could actually get a hold of this stuff you can't do it anymore because now we just run around smiling and don't really have classes But you used to have, there used to be always some joker who would steal a chunk of sodium from the lab. From this high school chemistry lab and he only takes a piece about the size of your thumbnail, you know a little block of it. A little piece like that about that size and you go into the bathroom and throw it down to toilet flushed toilet as fast as you can and they would usually blow up the entire school I mean not just school but they would blow up the pipes! I'm looking at walmartstores dot com slash press room this is the corporate site and they say they're going to reduce sodium by twenty five percent

1:55:36 Sodium, not sodium chloride. Not salt, sodium and I think sodium it may explode stuff but don't they use that as a preservative just as...I'm telling you they're putting sodium in our food and now they're joking laughing at us. Why don't they say sodium chloride or salt? Or whatever other sodium compound are talking about could be something else i totally agree but if its pure sodium this is what I thought thank you for confirming my fear Is that this is just sodium It's not so. Yeah, they're mislabeling it and if you look at... It is the same thing like your eyes of it this exactly where they gonna switch sugar You know we saw that we see the progression We know what it is? You know we go from high fructose corn syrup

1:56:17 uh... to uh... corn sugar they rename it because you know people are getting upset about the other stuff and then they're gonna rename it again to sugar plain sugar when is not and displays in the chat room are literally saying that's enough move on and now you have to understand words matter because this exactly what's happening corn sugar will become sugar and it'll be labeled as such and now sodium chloride n a c l which assault which i believe is what their telling us they're going to reduce, it's labeled as sodium. It is mislabeling at best and I think it's important. I really do. Apparently you don't think so? No! I think it's important. I'm not yelling and screaming about it but yeah...it has become one of those things. It's the same thing that the sugar thing is gonna happen to that too

CHAPTER 34 / 41 Discussion

Tunisia's Twitter Revolution and Facebook Influence

The popular uprising in Tunisia is being labeled the "Twitter Revolution" or "WikiLeaks Revolution" by mainstream media outlets like NPR's On the Media. The hosts argue that these platforms, particularly Facebook, have deep ties to Western intelligence agencies like the CIA. They suggest that the release of diplomatic cables regarding Tunisian corruption was a calculated move to trigger unrest.

tunisia· facebook· twitter· wikileaks· cia

1:57:07 So, uh... Alright you stupid slaves go eat your frickin' sodium. Enjoy it! Adam gets mad at the chat room Yes because I got a quickie here Yes I get mad at the chat room because they are sheeple They are Jerry Springer bumper play it real quick Geez I'm not no lesbian I'm the next Jerry Springer that's enough and i think that i would have to be ready for that one it is not all of them are one of our producers uh... came in with a really good ones will be talking about actually i think i haven't been intended it could mean end of show clip or we could listen to a little piece of it now which is probably better from mom from on the media and uh... on the media

1:58:00 uh... is a from our as for my national treasure here in the these get more nation states and they talked at this is like a seven minute piece of which will not play all seven minutes about uh... the color revolution in tunisia which are now literally calling the twitter revolution as predicted on this very program we got started coming to my home in new york this is on the media i'm bob garfield and i'm broke gladstone this is what popular uprising looks like protests of the corruption and unemployment was sparked after a man set himself on fire you might remember the song for the nineteen seventies that said the revolution will not be televised more modern lyrics might read the revolution will be treated amid the protests in tunisia there's been much talk about the activity of tunisians online and the role than new media are playing in the uprising now let me just restate that what we discussed uh... think thursday

1:58:58 is that the compromised social networking site Facebook at least Twitter I'm not sure about but Facebook certainly with their CIA investments from In-Q-Tel amongst others and if you read the Time Magazine piece on Mark Zuckerberg person of the year where the director of the FBI is just walking around the office It's just, it's right in the article like in your face. And of course I want to mention one more thing just to add to that we've you know as one of our producers pointed out the one of the early founders a Facebook was pushed out and the guy who is moved in uh... is a uh... with the ex PayPal Peter Tile is actually one of the members at The Builder Burgers Right

1:59:42 So we've got the Bilderbergers, who of course John thinks is just a drinking club except when it comes to this story. Now he's on board with it which I like. Well basically yeah I like that so you know I'm selective with the Bilderbergers. Very selective with the Bilderbergs they have an agenda and uh... the agenda is well I think its generally to stir unrest the seven minute piece on a national treasure just blew me away some of called it the wiki leaks revolution and deeply everything we talk about is in here's the week he leaks revolution is that with a revolution and listen to what they say about face book it's about a minute getting the unrest to lead diplomatic cables about corruption in the tunisian government uh... did you know that

2:00:21 Yeah, coincidence I think not. This is happening everywhere every country is selectively receiving cables the Netherlands have it they've got their cables about Shell and Shell was horrible and Shell as a slave driver this is so intelligence driven It's ridiculous! It is completely intelligence-driven and people are falling for it hook line and sinker totally Twitter revolution because of all the social media activities surrounding the protests. but political scientist and foreign policy blogger mark lynch has assiduously study the arab press and says it's not so simple now listen because now they actually so take into account that john i'm pretty much convinced that uh... wiki leaks ended then is a is a cia op or n intelligence operation to listen to the flow listened to how it works on how they get the people involved in this

2:01:17 to disrupt entire governments and of course it's the economic hitmen who benefit from this and that would be in many cases our own intelligence forces. He says the internet, social media and Al Jazeera have collectively transformed the information environment in the Arab world welcome back Mark Thanks for having me. So you've been following the evolving Arab media landscape for the last decade, what's the big change in that time? Well there have been two big changes one of course was the rise of Al Jazeera and satellite television that had the effect of really making it very difficult for Arab government to control the flow of information and the next big change has been the rise of mass participation in social media

2:02:03 which has really increased the ability of individual citizens to circumvent all efforts to control the media a remarkable portion of the Tunisian population is on Facebook for instance. There you go! A remarkable segment of the Tunisian population is on Facebook and they talk about Twitter this, Twitter that but when it comes down to the tax its Facebook so this is how works We get WikiLeaks to release some outrageous information about the regime we want to overthrow. Sorry? This is a new model and it's... Yeah, I know it's a new model but it's great! It used to be if you read the Confessions of an Economic Hitman then you understand how it used to work But now the first thing you get the WikiLeaks, WikiLeaks says something really disparaging

CHAPTER 35 / 41 Discussion

Jasmine Revolution and Global Intelligence Models

The "Jasmine Revolution" in Tunisia is analyzed as a new model for regime change driven by intelligence-led leaks and social media mobilization. Similar patterns are observed in Yemen and are being watched closely by Chinese authorities. The hosts describe this as an evolution of the "Economic Hitman" strategy, using digital tools to disrupt governments.

jasmine revolution· china· yemen· economic hitmen· social media

2:02:51 whatever it is something that will take people off. We also have in the wings we have backups for WikiLeaks if WikiLeaks tends to go down for some whatever reason they get shut down or something so there's a bunch of these follow-up to get couple guys are already started a new thing and WikiLeaks goes at this, so this model is basically the leaking model is part of...is a new element within the economic hitmen model which is fascinating me What I find fascinating is more articles, this Tunisia which and by the way it's the jasmine revolution. Jasmine? Is that not a reference to Chinese tea? Well it's a reference to... It's a flower! Right but.. That used to flavor tea. Right I thought that the Chinese drank a lot of jasmine tea. No you know they don't really drink as far as I know I mean I've been to China number times in amount time I do have you have jasmine tea they do drink a lot of jasmine tea but its no like

2:03:45 I don't think, I don't associate that. I'm not associative with that." Interestingly the article I read, The Success of Tunisia's Jasmine Revolution, the first of its kind in an Arab country has caught the world attention Chinese are watching closely too Internet users and Chinese commentators say the dramatic events in Tunisia aren't inspiration for the Chinese people Of course the Chinese, now I was in the supermarket yesterday and i see that China's got their own Facebook. This is why China didn't want Google and Facebook and all these guys in there because they need their own. Well they know what's going on! We're not the only two guys in the world that can deconstruct and figure out what's going on. You'd be amazed you would be amazed No but I'm also amazed by how many people have picked up our ability to do this

2:04:34 and they have, they do it themselves and they come up we get a lot of letters from people with insights that we just miss. Absolutely like the Peter Thiel connection to Bilderberg right? So next on the list I think Yemen they're now in a Facebook revolution I don't even know that it does that much of the public do this on their cell phones or something because but face Facebook is a big is a big mobile thing is not just some other computer all these kids are on the on their iPhones and stuff that's how you decide to do it. It's on the phone, course it is in China totally by the way at the new meme running around on Twitter and Facebook about Tunisia is that 1.5 tons of gold is missing withdrawn by

CHAPTER 37 / 41 Discussion

Color Revolutions and Future Predictions

The hosts discuss the naming conventions of "color revolutions," noting that blue, green, and jasmine have already been used. They jokingly predict a "Teal Revolution" (referencing Peter Thiel) or a "Fuchsia Revolution." The segment highlights the slick, professional nature of the propaganda and flags used in these supposedly grassroots movements.

color revolutions· teal· fuchsia· peter thiel· propaganda

2:08:30 and we're screwed anyway. And we don't know nothing! Well, that's pretty close yeah... We don't know. We're screwed and we don't know. You do know something is fake about this thing? Hey car wash Johnny what do you know man? Car wash Johnny probably has a better handle on it but the uh it seems to me yeah I think the Tunisia thing is a test of the I mean they've tested in Iran with the Green Revolution Yeah that was not not a big win and they lost, so there's elements that are missing. They're trying to fine-tune this, they being the whoever...the economic hitmen, the shadow government or whatever we want to call them I mean it we don't know who they are necessarily but people that are doing this is what we can say They are testing it So now you have a model, so you have Twitter, Facebook It seems like a little mishmash

2:09:22 I don't think you need all these things mixed up like that. And you have the color, and a representative. I've watched the Tunisian protests and they have these flags that are very well produced. They're jasmine. And everything is too slick for a popular movement is not like a bunch of people it's it's real its beauty is beautifully done the propaganda absolutely yes very slick is now likely to be pretty hardy meetings were built make their own signs and so obviously police you can have that sign here take this one Have this good sign. This sign is better, much better and we're getting the kind of play in the media that they're looking for and they have the memes of corruption or whatever I guess it's still be interesting to see how this one works out well let's call the next country in the next color well colors are gonna be tough to call but we've already seen we've already used up blue and we've used up green

2:10:18 and this weird jazz. It has to have a nice sounding like the fuchsia we haven't had a fuchsia revolution because it can just be blue, it has to be... How about mauve? The mauve no that doesn't sound good the mauve revolution no no no what other color teal the teal revolution that might work Peter Teal I like teal cause also you can have duck, duck is a teal a lot of teals are ducks teal will be good because of Peter Teal and you got Peter Thiel so we have the Teal Revolution I like that Teal let's predict Teal revolution coming somewhere into a little bit but let's also keep Fuchsia on the books well your keeping i'm skeptical about fuchsia seems a little it sounds like something would happen in the Castro district in San Francisco how about Jasmine dude give me a break yeah jasmine is pretty bad. I think thats a mistake its working though

2:11:11 the guys out and there been any threes associated with the abd i thought about the three thing we talked about it before yeah i've decided to say you have a clip which helped put on one of the shows in the end if upcoming shows if i can find it where one of their heads at a cia uh... who is also they had an essay is it just like for your memory i think his name from you know yet that guy jim adler we we have said we have some colors uh... from the uh... in chat room chartreuse Aquamarine. Too many weak syllables. Fuchsia, we have fuchsia no. Cyan? Cyan is good. Magenta? Magenta's good. That's another good one

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The Number 33 as Intelligence Signaling

The recurring appearance of the number 33 in news reports—such as 33 dead in floods or 33 victims in a shooting—is analyzed as a potential "message back to base" for intelligence agencies. The hosts suggest that specific numbers are used to confirm that an operation was premeditated or successful. They encourage listeners to set Google Alerts for the number to track these occurrences.

33· signaling· intelligence· numerology· media

2:11:54 Crimson wasn't there already a crimson? Crimson can make it come back. It's on its way in anyway let me get back so this guy the guy says well you know I have to be honest about it, I ran these agencies but I didn't know half the stuff that was going on this you mean there's all these little sub you know it's just broken up it's almost like it's like Al-Qaeda the intelligence community because there's all these agencies they don't know these little operations exist even though their funding them and there's thousands of them all over the place you know, there are think tanks, research groups, a million things so I'm coming to conclusion because this three thing that keeps cropping up. Double rainbow!

2:12:38 We need the double rainbow revolution. Yeah, I'm sure the ice cream company would love that anyway so it would also Jesse Jackson would have to be behind it so I'm thinking that the three thing is a message back-to-base Oh, right. Just to let you know that he worked... All is well! Well and I'll let you know that there were part of what you're seeing as part of an action that has been premeditated by an agency, an arm of the agency And so you sent out some press thing since you had the media in your pocket You just said look you gotta run this 30 thousand dead just run it. Just run that and make sure it's that number It has to be, but it can't be 30 this is the mistake people have been sending me 300...30 no its 33 it could be thirty three thousand thirty-three thirty three it's two 3s next at least two 3s if there are three 3s then you know really good

2:13:32 Yeah, okay so the three but it has to be two probably and I think you might be right because there's too many of these things with 33 dead and 33 shot. How about thirty-three victims now confirmed for the floods in Queensland? That just came out Well that's interesting yeah well... That would be a confirmation of some initiative that is finalized then we're part of it and did the thirty threes tell them don't worry its us. It was Carwash Vinny says 33 cars clean today boss. That's right I think you're totally right and we keep an eye on it, do you know how many people have Google alerts now for 33?

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No Agenda Production Tools and Email Management

The hosts discuss the difficulty of managing the high volume of listener emails between shows, which often reaches 500 messages. They express a need for a more structured production tool or a moderated forum to organize story links and sources. Adam Curry mentions he is working on a new system to streamline the "human resource" contributions.

email· production· bulletin board· cage match· workflow

2:14:14 We'll probably have four listen. Yes, cuz I because they by the way i'm working on a new system for For people who really want to help produce the show because it's getting a little out of hand Between shows I can now get three to five hundred emails Many duplicates of course which is okay? I appreciate it because you sometimes you get multiple angles of a story and multiple sources And then by the time you get like the links from people with link to the BBC, then it's plateaued. Right? Then okay everything else after this is going to be the same but I'm working on a way that we can do it not through emails. The most inefficient device I've ever used for this. It's horrible

2:14:58 I'm sorry, we lost you for a second there. We could use a bulletin board system similar to Dvorak Cage Match No it's got to be more structured than that. It is pretty structured. No it's not! Dvorak Cage Match is a moderated forum, its not structured. Well same thing...I don't like moderated forums Well then what would you suggest? I am working on something and I shall suggest when I am ready I'm working on a tool, we need some tools. Just like the government has tools...I have a tool! Well talking about tools, I do have a clip for the end of this show or if you can place part of it now? Yeah sure let's do it It's a little long and maybe its better but you know that guy who had AQ USA

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Al-Qaeda Media Monitoring and C-SPAN Secrecy

A Georgetown University professor claims that Al-Qaeda's media arm, Al-Sahab, actively monitors C-SPAN and congressional hearings to identify gaps in U.S. defenses. The hosts dismiss this as a "jabroni" argument designed to justify increased government secrecy and the potential removal of public access to legislative proceedings. They mock the idea that terrorists are subscribing to White House RSS feeds to plan attacks.

al-qaeda· c-span· georgetown university· terrorism· surveillance

2:15:40 I mean, he has a very long speech. This character...I wrote his name down on the thing and didn't bring it up here but anyway he's from Princeton or Georgetown and he is a professor and he is talking about Al Qaeda and how they tap into all the public information but essentially what he is describing is what the two of us do which is tap into all the intelligence that's being gathered and then reported on and put on C-SPAN and other venues. And he claims that Al Qaeda is doing this so they can better understand how they can screw us, but he puts it...he says in such a way as though I mean

2:16:16 How many guys does Al Qaeda have working for them scouring C-SPAN? I think none. I think this is total bullcrap! I don't think Al Qaeda's doing any of what this guy describes, but... he's convinced that they're you know there's like they have a head office someplace, why don't we just bomb that? Finally we see as I just described Al-Qaeda existing and surviving because it has always been as opportunistic as it is instrumental. That this is a movement that has always been able to take advantages of opportunities simply by continuing to monitor identify and exploit gaps in our defenses And this is being one of the keys to Al Qaedas success

2:16:56 we tend to look at al-sahab, the clouds. Al Qaeda's media arm what? Al sahad, the clouds? Al sahab is a website that means I think it means the cloud in some version of Arabic oh well that's great so now for cloud computing we can call it al sahab I guess... I have to look that up Microsoft and al sahab But he claims they have a media arm. For its output mission, dissemination propaganda from its conception 22 years ago Al-Sahab has also had a very important input capability vacuuming strategic intelligence of its allies and to give you two brief examples we know for a fact

2:17:44 that Al-Qaeda has downloaded the websites of every major think tank in the United States. Wow! They are so sophisticated, it's called Wget. What are they doing it for? That is bull crap anyway they're not downloading anything We know for a fact that they've downloaded entire websites... Okay we know this as a fact why don't we do some trace routes and find out where these downloads are going Yeah why don't you get their logs man And shoot them! Yeah really Al-Sahab! ...times and especially those that have particular focuses or interests in... Who is this jabroni again? He's a professor at Georgetown who teaches international strategy or something. Yeah, yeah. And he's the one who came with a... We know for a fact that al Qaeda is subscribing to the RSS feeds of Whitehouse dot gov This isn't outrage! Terrorism and Homeland Security

2:18:34 Secondly, we know for a fact that Al-Qaeda regularly monitors congressional testimony and hearings. Oh no! Just like those No Agenda guys... they're watching C-SPAN Especially those hearings by the Homeland Security Committees of the Senate and House, the Armed Services Committee, the Judiciary Is this not a move to turn off C-SPAN? I don't know what this is a move for, but it's bullcrap. It's frightening because it sounds like we need to be secret about all of our... First we hear that Al-Qaeda is a cell oriented operation that is separate from everything else there's no central al Qaeda There's no way this could be going on because the model that where we've been told about Al-Qaeda doesn't allow for this sort of thing Because then you could track it and find out their headquarters and kill people

2:19:20 what happened this is got it this is bull crap by definition happen to the al-qaeda guys in on the monkey bars in the desert training if now that has been caved this is no good jury committee and so on obviously select committee on intelligence very rarely meets an open session They watch the videos from them, they monitor the testimony and of course this for them is manna from heaven. You have the heads of government agencies or departments sitting in a panel often subjected to withering questioning... Withering? I'm telling you John this is the start of removing C-SPAN and making testimonies secret again! That's what it sounds like to me from this professor

2:19:59 Well there's a censorship angle to this because it is like you know here's what going on and here's what they're doing and here's, you know they're downloading... This is crazy! It's totally crazy. Brutiny by congressmen or senators They are asked to explain their mission Their assessments of how successful they've been in their mission And they always say we can't tell you There's plenty of secrecy going on They never come out Even on the, remember with the whole underpants bomber hearing? We can't talk about that right now. Yeah no it's true, tricks of success how sufficient their budgets are what their plans are and so on this is all information that Al Qaeda gathers to facilitate its operations

2:20:43 So what we can see is that al-Qaeda arguably is achieving each of its strategic objectives. And again, the fundamental conceit as well throughout history of all terrorists and insurgent groups is to avoid losing and that I think is what Al Qaeda believes it's doing. It may not be winning but it's also not losing. It still exists and eventually they believe the time is on their side and that they will be triumphant all i can kill it's a good enough and we have contact now with the uh... al-qaeda what was the name of the cloud again uh... l have some ways some time in elsa bobbers almost i want to have ronald boston i mean you see as i just described without a lot of existing in survival now is a call always be his opportunity to make this at the beginning of the game until that this isn't even if that has always been able to take advantages of opportunities about

2:21:37 simply by continuing to monitor identify and exploit gaps in our defenses. And this is being one of the keys to Al Qaeda's success we tend to look at al-sahab, I think it's sahab, he sounds like it first when he says it a second time Wait we have contact now with the clouds anyone in the we have Al-Qaeda also hob here. We go we have we have contact John Oh my goodness, what is the world coming to? Well that was a you get points for that clip what a douchebag Totally oh my god alright so there's tons more stuff in the show notes at no agenda show calm

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DNA Database for Prostitution Clients and Outro

The show concludes with a news item from the UK where a police chief suggests creating a DNA database of clients who use prostitutes to act as a deterrent. The hosts also mention a video by Jim Corr of The Corrs regarding globalist agendas. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off, promising to return for the next episode on Thursday.

dna database· prostitution· bbc· jim corr· sign-off

2:22:36 in our handy structured data format. And make sure you check out the video from Jim Corr of The Corrs, from Gitmo Nation Leprechaun. There are a lot of Gitmo Nations things that we didn't get to which is kind of funny BBC police chief wants... A DNA database of people who are clients of prostitutes in Gitmo Nation East Why? Well so that'll deter you So essentially The hookers will have to give up DNA since you're giving them DNA so you can be putting the DNA database. So they are going to swab the hookers? I think they can just take the prophylactic John, i don't think you have to swab the hookers. So they gonna make the hookers document... Yes yes What is wrong with the British public? Coming here from Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California a proud monitor of Al-Sahaba, I'm Adam Curry

2:23:36 And I'm in Northern Silicon Valley. I almost got you there, I'm John C Dvorak We'll talk again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.