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00:00 He prunes, that's my advice. Watching the mud slide down the hilltop watchtower crackpot command center and give my nation West here in the People's Republic of Southern California in the morning I am the former Soviet spy known as Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where it's Christmas week and nobody's working and It shows I'm John C. Dvorak Lazy asses there

00:39 in the morning to you john in the morning to you and in the morning to all ships at sea and foot on the ground okay uh we'll try that again it's ships at sea and boots on the ground boots wings in the skies hams on the air and human resources in the chat room but no agenda chat dot net they are completely charged up and ready to go the way their government loves them you know you know it seems to me if you're gonna run down that that that line you should say uh... hands on the air and human resources everywhere so to do like a rhyme you would have a nice and i mean and okay like a haiku no well i accused that don't necessarily ryan and i know uh... every well i'm changing it now in the script so uh... so we always have it correct now but can you maybe remember for once it's boots on the ground and not feats on the ground i was talking about the things that keep washing up on shore

01:34 Hey John, last show of 2010. Oh that's right, this is the last show of 2010. How was your Christmas? Christmas was good. What did you receive? Did you receive any gifts outside of pure love from your family? I got a few things, this and that. What'd you get? Nothing. Well I got a uh... it's just you know a lot of my man to say it's a to say what's wrong you and i think i got a pile of all kinds of stuff you don't remember do you that's the time you remember this is the most important thing is that really get to assist us at some sort of work done for me so no really like like it but one of those gift certificates like

02:16 Hey dear dad, those don't work by the way. They suck. I used to do those once in a while for my parents. Yeah, no, I'll do I'll wash like the car. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. You know, I still have one of those from my wife from about 15 years ago to wash the car. I pull out every once in a while to wash the car. What about this? Ah, screw you. but was it to wash the car or what was it? No, it was like all kinds of stuff you know to clean the office, to scratch my back. It was a huge pile, it was a big giant bundle. Really? It says scratch my back. Yeah! And it was like, and it's like within a month. How romantic! You and Mimi, I gotta tell you, you guys are just killing me. So it's like within a month. Oh.

03:05 No Hello, John. Hello. Oh, that was weird I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I so for some reason you went on hold it must have been my fault I say, you know within a month I you know a scratch your own back and then the next year is to give me a back scratcher That was the end of that. I got some cool gifts. Oh, so I get it. You want to talk about your gifts? No, what was the coolest one? Oh the coolest one was from my daughter she gave me a uh a usb record player which i thought was so awesome because you know it's like when i was

03:44 Shoot man when I was five. I think I had a plastic. This is made of plastic of course I had a plastic record player with a we know it's like a little suitcase and you're blue and you open it up and the top was the was the speaker and Then you could put my Peter and the Wolf record on and this thing is pretty amazing It's like you know it's a it's a record player, and you plug it in it has a stereo outs as well But you can plug it into your computer or it also has a little transmitter in it you can uh... curiously my wife gave me the exact same gift about two christmases ago but it doesn't have the transmitter to the original older older version right the transmitter part is pretty cool but because it's portable uh... but on the daily source code tomorrow last one of the year i'm going to uh... play some vinyl

04:26 That I got laying around. Yeah man, well wait until you see what I've got laying around in vinyl. That's what's really cool. It's not just the fact that it sounds scratchy. You'll have to listen tomorrow. Come on, tell me. No, listen tomorrow. Just tell me one. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. The Message. The 12-inch. That I asked? Yeah. Okay. so we have a couple one executive producer one associate executive producer as we get him out of the way to our like the 40 listeners who apparently are working during the week and we do have a at the break we have a bunch of make goods apparently we miss some people in the previous is that when the long episode version we did oh the the long episode version what was that oh whatever we had day after technical problems and everything yeah okay

05:20 So we have our executive producer for this show who contributed $333.33 from Toronto, Ontario, Sam. It's either Leung or Long or Lung. It depends on... I think Lung. I always thought it was Leung but okay. Dear John and Adam, in the morning to both of you, hopefully this tiny donation will help dig you guys out of the hole from the coin challenge. I also wanted to refill the karma jar and should complete my knighthood after surviving vacation. According to this, he is a knight as of this point. Yes, I see the little knight logo next to his name on the spreadsheet, which is... Yes, it would be Sir Sam. Cool. Also want to let you know that I sat in the lobby of the UN leeching off their free Wi-Fi to download No Agenda 264. Excellent, excellent, excellent.

06:08 that you might enjoy that happy new year uh... made a remark no agenda to does a lovely we assume so and sam from great nation agra get one nation uh... great white north which is a candidates and there are so she is a producer for this week uh... who had donated that to thirteen thirty seven uh... is troy rudder isn't isn't roy a sir by now as well as well you know and i don't know maybe a racial look look is numbers up he's in aims iowa The fabulous Ames, Iowa, No Real Messes, just keep spreading the awesome. We will. We'll do our best to spread some awesome. We appreciate that coming at the end of the year with some nice giving levels. That's highly appreciated. I got a couple of quick PR mentions.

06:56 uh... one from no agenda novels dot com uh... scott you remember who uh... wrote the book one day and get my nation yeah uh... we have which uh... a portion of the proceeds goes to support the show he says uh... very nice gentleman by the name of brendan kidwell bought a download copy of one day and get my nation and proceeded to turn it into an e-pub format so i've now made that version available for download as well that means human resources with ipads iphone snooks and other e-readers can read it in the right format It saved me a lot of time and money. I'm sending him a signed book, a copy of the book to say thanks. You can get the book for free by downloading it. Hold on, I gotta take off my jacket. It's a little warm here. What? I gotta take off my hoodie. It got a little warm. You're wearing a hoodie? Yeah, it's... Dude, it was like 45 degrees here last night. I know. Oh, the horrors. The horrors of 45 degrees. So go check out noagendanovels.com. And just a quick note from Mitch

07:54 bidrawn who says uh... hey you guys never have to worry about stuff like the explicit tag on itunes uh... instead you projects were opposed to warning about the new true danger of your show my eleven-year-old daughter valerie has a new hobby reading magazine specifically to see the side effects of advertised medications uh... i'll be sending you uh... my remaining i had money for show two seventy but uh... one but you know some of the good the order when we appreciate that mitch yet we were up in a big bear actually Oh yeah, you went to Big Bear. That's really interesting. interesting and we talk about that the let's mention the fact that the people who do uh... give us uh... a certain level will get their executive producer credits they can use in the past credits and you can do that by going to know agenda show dot com or devore dot org slash n a okay then let's do it officially and thanks urs and lindy l e u n g and that's right water us still not sure that he's a he's still about two hundred and sixty three dollars and thirty seven cents short of knighthood

08:55 Give or take a penny, but Troy is our associate executive producer. Thank you very much Unlike those phonies in Hollywood will actually vouch for your credit everyone else out there You must go out and go forth with the propagation of the message our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth By the way our uh... the spokesperson for that clip uh... got fired yeah i read about that so that's good so maybe we can get him to do a new version for us he needs a gig he's looking for a gig and we're it we're it for him right now now big bear is kind of interesting went up there to the snow so the way it's advertised if you live in l a here's the way you say it big bear man it's great it's only two hours away now when you actually drive it it's three and a half hours i'm surprised it's that short

09:55 Yeah, and it was we had like a snowstorm up there. It was pretty cool. It was actually quite I didn't stay long enough I would have to say but we didn't want to risk getting stuck up there and not being able to do the show I swear to God We got to come back on time well on time Wednesday evening, so we don't mess up the show. That's good. Although there was a fine and dandy high-speed internet available so I could have done the show from there and In fact, as most people do, I was up there and you look around you go, huh? Well, well, you know, I could buy a plot of land and we could just park a trailer on it while we're building the house.

10:34 No. That's the beginning of the end. You know that's how it starts, right? I know, I know people who've done it. I know lots of people who've done it. And it's always the beginning of the end. What is the end? The end is they break up with whoever they're with because they can't stay in the trailer. They get cabin fever, right? And they either don't finish the house or they go broke building the house and have to sell it at a loss. It's just a don't anybody out there thinking about don't do it Do it the number of successful people that the number of successes with that model is so it does happen I've ran into somebody who actually managed only for only for mountain living or how about people who?

11:19 uh... how about for people who go to an island you know that has the same thing you know like some tropical paradise like oh i love it here so much over going to live here honey it you know i mean yeah yes it exactly what has the beginning of the and you do not do you do not do it don't even think about it but anyway of course it's been the coldest uh... and rainiest weather on record for get more nation west where uh... the republic of california same up uh... I know it's been that way for Southern California same for us miserable up here yeah of course around the world around the globe we have climate change abound we can't say global warming because let's face it it ain't getting warmer but let's call it climate change or as some like to say something funny though in the Gitmo Nation East United Kingdom

12:16 They had a scheme as they call it over there in that I guess it was like four or five years ago and The scheme was you would get a 400 pound I guess tax break or rebate if you installed one of the extremely environmentally global warming climate change friendly boilers and so that's like, basically there were 8 million households according to this, according to the Daily Mail, 8 million households that basically threw out perfectly good boilers

12:55 which is what makes your water hot and I think it's for it's for not just for the water it's for heating as well in a lot of the British homes. Threw away perfectly good boilers, bought these new ones except there's a small problem. The way they work is unlike a conventional boiler because this essentially takes the 25% heat that normally goes out of the vent and exhaust pipe as it should and it tries to pipe it back down into the system. So that means there's a cold pipe running along the back of the boiler and of course these are all freezing up during this horrible weather they're having. So at least 60,000 people I've called in so far saying, my new boiler doesn't work, I'm freezing my ass off. So good job everybody! Way to go!

13:46 Well, you know, if you're going to be suckered into some of these initiatives, maybe you deserve a little lesson. Yeah. Well, you know, it could happen anywhere. I just thought it was kind of interesting. I know, just saying. Yeah. There was a number of articles that are starting to come out of all the newspapers in England now about the climate change and the predictions into the year 2000 and more recently a book that came out in 2004 saying, oh the children will never see snow again. They never see snow again. And now they're starting to dig up this nonsense. I mean you dug it up on the show last week. Right, the article from 2000.

14:26 2000 saying that it'll be a you know the poor kids that you know that they will only have virtual snow on the internet Yeah, no, no, they won't know what a snowman. I told my daughter that she's like what? Because she lived through the past two winters in London. She's a virtual but I've never been colder in my life Yeah, London would be a very miserable place to be in this. It's cold anyway. Well, yeah, what happens in because they're so unprepared for this is people wind up having to sleep in their cars on the highways. I mean, it's really bad. Yes, in fact, and they probably don't know the basic rules about stuff like that. Like if you live in Colorado, you're taught since you're raised as a kid

15:11 to never let your gas tank go anywhere near like half empty. Yeah, half empty is already, you're already risking your life. Because you could end up in your car for days, you know, and in extremely cold weather you have to keep the engine running or you're gonna basically freeze to death. You're gonna die. Wow. I didn't know that, but of course I haven't been raised in Colorado. But I didn't know that. But yeah, keep your gas tank above a half full always. Should we start the show off with something kind of light and funny? Huh. A little, uh, in fact, it kind of qualifies as real news. It's not really news, but it was Oprah. You know, Oprah is starting her new channel. The O. You know, the funny thing is didn't Oprah already start a channel some years back, back in the late 90s called O?

16:00 Was I think that was just on cable wasn't that just a magazine? No, she did a magazine too, but she had a cable channel called. Oh hmm that because i remember that's when i was working in the cable you know i was running when you were when you are cable mogul as a cable now the cable and lacking i a big difference and uh... as a lackey i would look at the other channels and there is a zero per channel that uh... i think paul allen and it had invested in really well than that that that that explains it that's why you have a lot of your hair failed but uh... he invested in it you know the before you know the judge throughout his claims

16:38 The uh, remember he was going after everyone except Microsoft for patent infringement? The court threw it all out which kind of solidifies my theory that he was just doing it to prove that these lawsuits are frivolous and to get frivolous lawsuits off the system. He'll have to go back in and appeals but no one has mentioned this I don't think. But all of the, his entire lawsuit was dismissed. Anyway, let's play the jingle then while we're at it. And now, back to Real News. So, uh, Oprah gets roasted at the Kennedy Honors and she's up there, I swear to God, it's Oprah, uh, Michelle, and Barack.

17:19 I mean holy moly up there in the in the sky oh I'm sorry Oprah Paul McCartney Michelle Obama Barack Obama. Oh the elites. It's totally totally so by the way it's kind of funny because wasn't it Paul McCartney was on stage with John Lennon when the Queen was up there in the box and John Lennon said just you know other other people up there just rattle your jewelry so now he is the elite uh... but chris rock who of course uh... panders to the elite oh yeah roasted uh... over the elite that uh... gestures yes it court jester of the elites He did a pretty funny routine about Oprah and I thought it would be fun to listen to it this morning. Just to get into the vibe of where you're not this holiday season. You're not at the Kennedy Center being honored and roasted like Queen Oprah. I walk in this room and it's just an amazing feeling to look up and see the most powerful person in the world and right next to her

18:20 Barack Obama! Now, what was funny about this is that the camera cut to Michelle who was actually sitting next to Barack Obama and she made this like, that's right bitches, that's me. But of course Chris Rock was talking about Oprah. But it was kind of funny to see and she has like these wireframe glasses on. It's unbelievable. Elitist. But she thought it was about her and then of course Chris launches straight into Oprah. Hey! He didn't get her a job, she got him a job! True. Completely true. No one deserves this award more than Oprah Winfrey. But no one needs it less! That's good right? That's a good one.

19:11 Oprah Winfrey is so rich, she's so rich China owes her money. At this point Barack's like, ha ha ha ha ha, he's turning around, that's really funny. Oprah Winfrey is so rich, she's so rich, if Oprah and Paul McCartney had sex, the SEC would have to approve it. That's a good joke. Yeah, that was all right. That was pretty fun. I'm sure the rock is hilarious, but it is you know All that's missing is the court gesture outfit with the crazy hat and there's you know the striped shirt and the whole thing Hey, John something just happened that has oxygen channel that Oprah owned something just happened that hasn't happened in a long time What you went up an octave on Skype?

20:03 I did? Yeah! You're on the helium Skype. Oh, that hasn't happened for a while. So I want to... I wish I had something I could read. It's okay, just be yourself. It's really good. Do a review of something. Give me some of that CES... I'm choking. I don't know what to do now that I got this voice. Come on, you could do it. Read a story. I've been drinking helium. Come on, man. Read a story. Hello John and Adam, please accept my double nickels on the dime donation as the last show was totally epic. My friends and family all think this is a crackpot thing. I'm a crackpot, and I love it I have two email requests for you or two small requests. I have two brothers that so it works out Please call my brother Matt a douchebag all right hold on you know what I think I'm just gonna call you back just to uh oh oh oh bummer The chat room was going ah shucks. It was so cool. Let me call you back, man. It'll be well worth it a

21:04 Alright. As funny as it is, I think we should have John in his full glory. How am I doing? Do I sound funny? You're doing good. So um... Well what about Matt? He's a douchebag. Douchebag! We'll get to Craig's letter later. So there's this story that's been running rampant about kids doing bath salts as a new form of drug. Now that way Epson salts bath salts not Epson bath salts was that salt to do well, it's salt Well, there's a number of things. So there's two things kids are now doing ingesting bath salts and smoking potpourri

21:52 Hey kids, eventually anything you smoke will make you high. I mean, put a carpet in there and smoke it. It's from lack of oxygen to smoke. Put a carpet in there and you will get high, alright? So police say it's a drug problem and they can't do anything about it. Ingesting bath salts and smoking potpourri have gained what police call a cult-like following in recent months. Yeah, well here's what happened because of course it's really bad stuff. Police at a Kansas University, a Kansas University student Elijah Taylor home on winter break threw himself in front of a highway traffic in front of highway traffic last week he said it's after he snorted the bath salts. So there apparently there is some some chemical in the bath salt that can make you high.

22:49 Or make you nuts. Yeah, let me see if I can find the oh, oh by the way it is the new oh okay here we go. Wow hospital emergency rooms in every region of Louisiana have treated 84 people for paranoia hallucinations tachycardia what is that like heart palpitations? uh... louisiana poison center now receiving four to five calls a day this is a whole google page filled with the stories about this it's all wrong with these kids sold under brand names board ivory wave ocean charged white lightning scarface hurricane charlie red dove cloud nine white dove and these are labeled bath salts and products are labeled not for human consumption hello hint

23:44 Oh, so in other words these things aren't salts, these are actually home-brew drugs that are sold as bath salts. I think so, yeah. So the chemicals within the products sold as bath salts are methadrone, What does that ring a bell with you John methadone? I don't know what methadone is and methylenedioxaprovolone MDM DP. I love you can mock me for pronouncing names, but your pronunciation of chemical names is hilarious So do you? Know what that is no? How do you know I'm mispronouncing it? Oh, I know you're mispronouncing it because I can hear the what the words are within the what you're trying to say Let's have the Mac Purdue Hold on

24:30 See if the Mac can pronounce it. I don't know if I could do that actually through this. Let me see. Sure you can. No, I can't. I can't. Not the way I've got it set up today. That's too bad. Yeah. So what is that? Methylenedioxaprovalone? I don't know. Okay. Well, anyway, kids... I got the Merck index. Hold on a second. It's right over here by the other... It's MDPV and kids are snorting it along with smoking the potpourri and this is a problem. I think finally yes, we got the Merck index here on the show. It's start spell that it for me. It's methyl something Yeah, me th yl. I got this a big book. Oh, I Gotta get to the M's Right. No, this is really the myth is what is this gonna be worth it? It's probably it's probably soap is what it is. No, no, no, it's probably so what methyl E N E D

25:23 Methylenediox. I-O-X. Wait, wait. Methylenediox. I told you we made a big stink about this. About having the book, right? Yeah. Can I just spell the whole word for you? Yeah, then I can look it up on the side. M-E-T-H-Y-L-E-N-E-D-I-O-X-P-Y-R-O-V-A-L-E-R-O-N-E. Jeez. Methylenediox. Perovalororo. It's bath salt. I'm telling you, it's gonna turn out to be bath salt. Crazy. So this apparently started in Gitmo Nation East in the United Kingdom as you're looking that up. It's the new legal high. Ivory Wave, it's sweeping Britain. This is a story from 2009.

26:19 Ivory wave? Yeah, that's the brand name of these bath salts that the kids are snorting in England. I gotta get me some of this. And let's see, Get My Nation Down Under. Get My Nation Down Under, it's happening there. Aussie Snort, super addictive, Ivory Wave, Ivory Wave, gotta get me some. Worse than cocaine, and legal. And cheaper. Fox 2 found stores pushing the potentially dangerous drug. So have you figured out what it is? No, because the spelling you gave me is a little dubious. I'm going to look it up and find out. I just thought it was entertaining. Let's outlaw that stuff. Let's get the kids off of it. Off the ivory wave. Get them on a marijuana or something. You've got to legalize these things. Get them on a real drug. This is stupid. I agree. Get them on a real drug. This is no good. No, this is just poisoning the youth. Yeah, ivory wave. Nuts.

27:18 Yeah, well there it is. You can look it up for yourself in the show notes at noagendashow.com. The former cocaine user who says he's been clean for years told us he tried snorting Ivory Wave. How clean is he? He tried snorting Ivory Wave. I'm clean but I want to snort some Ivory Wave. I'd say it's ten times more powerful than cocaine and lasts ten times longer. And your teeth are mighty clean. It's too powerful for me, says the cocaine user, and I'm a grown-up man. I'm a grown-up. Wow. Okay, well that's not good. As we look back on 2010, it's been... We should do a retrospective show on Sunday. Yeah, well that'll be the second. Everyone's going to be talking about the new year. No one will care anymore about

28:16 about retrospectives go on for weeks really oh yeah there's a retrospective that I'm gonna play you the promo actually it's something that we've been we were all over from the beginning and of course it's completely like gone away no one talks about it it's a Dutch production from Gitmo nation lowlands and it's a you can watch it online you'll find the the link to the YouTube video series since it's a four parts that YouTube only lets you upload like ten minutes or whatever under Gitmo Nation Zloty and it's about Poland and well I'll play this promo for a second which is kind of the opening of this piece because it's the pieces in this Polish with the English narrator and English subtitles translated subtitles but it's about something that happened this year that has just been kind of forgotten. Hello friends

29:08 I write you this letter from Krakow, Poland. Most likely, after you will have read my letter, you will conclude that I am crazy. Or at least that everything in this letter is preposterous. And you know what? I even hope that you are right. And this is just a hallucination or at worst a nightmare. Nevertheless, at this moment, I myself and most of my countrymen are deeply concerned and uncertain. Maybe history will prove that our ancestors are false, that we have a natural tendency to paranoia as a part of Polish soul. Maybe. I hope so. But for now, let me tell you about my worries. They start on April 10th. So do you remember what happened April 10th, John? Wasn't that the guy from Yo! Agenda? I know it sounds like a comic strip blogger. Who is from Poland, by the way?

30:08 uh... no but this is about the uh... you know that half of the uh... half of the elites uh... half of the the government was wiped out in one hand i should rush a discuss this a m including the gunshots that took place with the killer at the was it didn't die in the plane exactly and uh... so this is and outstanding outstanding piece of video i have to say uh... produced with uh... government money in uh... give my nation lowlands and it just really really good it's called uh... uh... letter a letter from poland and uh... you know it's it when you look at uh... where poland is on the map i encourage you to do that from time to time just pull out that we have to think of the war and you'll see that uh... there's a reason why uh... they have uh... skepticism and uh... what what do you say the part of the polish soul do well they're worried yeah i would think that you really worried about how they are and i don't blame them

31:05 So, just something great to watch if you want to kind of wrap up the year. Feel real good about yourself. Actually, I have kind of a retrospective show in a way. By the way, it's pronounced Methylene Dioxy Pyrovalerone. And what is it? I don't know. I can't find it in the book. Well, how do you know how to pronounce it? It's not in the book. Of course not, because it's in Johnson & Johnson's stable of cleaning products. It's not a drug, it's soap. It's soap, John, it's soap. Get with it. So I've been continuing to follow what's going on in Haiti and I have a reason for that.

31:55 Because of course, who was it who did the big benefit for Haiti, John? Who was that guy? There was a couple of guys, very, very big, big guys. Yeah, who was that guy? Well, there was a guy named Clinton. Yes, that's one guy. Who I believe was a former president of the United States. Yes, who was the special envoy to the United Nations. Yeah, I believe he was president after President Humphrey. And then there was another president who was involved, Bush, who was helping. Bush, Bush, Bush, yes, correct. And what did they say? Just send us your cash. Now right now all we need from people, if you can't be part of a medical team or a search and rescue team, we just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water, just send your cash. So they had, there's another guy, who did the big benefit? Who was that John? The big benefit, you know the big one with all the stars. Bono. With all the stars. It wasn't Bono, was it Paul McCartney? Who was it?

31:05 So, just something great to watch if you want to kind of wrap up the year. Feel real good about yourself. Actually, I have kind of a retrospective show in a way. By the way, it's pronounced Methylene Dioxy Pyrovalerone. And what is it? I don't know. I can't find it in the book. Well, how do you know how to pronounce it? It's not in the book. Of course not, because it's in Johnson & Johnson's stable of cleaning products. It's not a drug, it's soap. It's soap, John, it's soap. Get with it. So I've been continuing to follow what's going on in Haiti and I have a reason for that.

31:55 Because of course, who was it who did the big benefit for Haiti, John? Who was that guy? There was a couple of guys, very, very big, big guys. Yeah, who was that guy? Well, there was a guy named Clinton. Yes, that's one guy. Who I believe was a former president of the United States. Yes, who was the special envoy to the United Nations. Yeah, I believe he was president after President Humphrey. And then there was another president who was involved, Bush, who was helping. Bush, Bush, Bush, yes, correct. And what did they say? Just send us your cash. Now right now all we need from people, if you can't be part of a medical team or a search and rescue team, we just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water, just send your cash. So they had, there's another guy, who did the big benefit? Who was that John? The big benefit, you know the big one with all the stars. Bono. With all the stars. It wasn't Bono, was it Paul McCartney? Who was it?

32:51 Clooney Clooney George Clooney right he's the number one guy and he's the go-to guy we'll be talking about him later today. So Haiti had elections and and they were disputed this is how it's by the way no Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper no one's on the ground no boots on the ground no one walking around no more live reports about all the billions of dollars that have not showed up and people still live in intended areas as Clinton calls it But because the elections were disputed, the results have to be reviewed by the OAS. Do you know what that is? The OAS? The Office of Animals and Shelters. You're not being serious today. It is the Organization of American States.

33:44 Oh yeah, right, those are the, right. Weren't we kicked out, wasn't the United States kicked out of that group? Well, what's interesting is there was a guy who was kicked out of the OAS, kind of a high-ranking official, a Brazilian diplomat, He's actually been kicked out of the OAS, he's been kicked out of Haiti altogether because he was criticizing what happened during these elections publicly in Swedish publications. By the way, the Swiss, not the Swedes by the way, are really doing a pretty good job of reporting on the atrocities that's going on there. And there's a huge article linked in the show notes and what I found from this was a report from

34:29 our Canadian friends at CBC who actually did a very good job of reporting on the elections in Haiti and I feel compelled to share that with the group since this is, you know, remember what we got here in the United States and in Britain and in the Netherlands and Germany and all these places where we send all of our money, we texted our $10, oh I feel so much better now. And so a year later, everyone's still in tents, we're pooping out everything because we're poopitout.com full of cholera brought in by the UN. And here's how the election sounded. This is a retrospective report from CBC in Canada. ...consider today's presidential election critical for the country, but it was rife with problems and widespread allegations of fraud. The CBC's Paul Hunter is in Haiti to cover the election. Paul... Now this was reported by the way about fraud, right? So what do you think that means John? We think, oh there's some fraud. I mean do you think... Well I would think that it means somebody is stealing money.

35:32 When it comes to an election? Oh, when it comes to an election. It would mean that people were getting credit for votes that didn't take place or there was some people being paid to vote or the whole thing was rigged. Here we go. Tell us what you saw today. I saw ballots stuffing, Wendy. I saw ballots torn from the ballot boxes. I saw angry election officials, angry candidates, angry voters. I saw the kind of election people here hoped this would not be. Hey, how come, where's Anderson Cooper with that report? Hold on a second, wait a minute. Where's Anderson? Where's anybody? I never heard this. This was in what country was playing this report? Canada. Well, what's wrong with the US of A? How come we're not...

36:16 developing these because we don't want anyone to know about this because this is all the art of suckers who gave them clinton all that money that was yes exactly and we gotta build our hotels their shyster she had it but take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity Get in line, he's saying, at this downtown polling station. But they've been in line for hours and not a single ballot has been handed out. It's a government trick, he says. The government doesn't want us to vote. Outside, tensions ratchet up. Voters shout at UN soldiers, including Canadians. Across town, at a poll in the City Soleil slum, a different kind of problem.

37:01 To get your ballots here, you can do one of two things. You can get them the proper way from election officials and mark them and put them in there. Or you can pick up as many ballots as you want from any of the variety of people we've seen just handing them out to anyone again and again and again. So you really have to see this video, which I'm amazed is not on CNN. I'm missing Anderson. You see like they got these ballot boxes which are basically plastic aquaria. with a little slot on top and there's nothing in it. A guy walks up with like a fistful and stuffs a whole bunch in and the report goes on for five minutes just about rampant. I mean you even see the ballot boxes lying in the gutter and let me play a little bit more it's just it's so crazy that this is not being reported on at all.

37:49 But we're about to go through exactly the same thing, and that's why I'm bringing this up. "...carefully at the bottom of the screen as ballots are handed off so voters can vote again. How many times has this man voted, we asked?" "...many times, he said. These people tried to stop us from videotaping it." "...but we saw ballot stuffing nonetheless. That hand has a wad of ballots so thick it can hardly fit in the box, and there are more ballots in his other hand." Okay. So let's just go through the genesis of this. So almost a year ago we had this huge earthquake, right? Yeah. And just by coincidence everyone was doing training exercises right in that area. Remember that? Yep. That was really coincidental, right?

38:38 And then, oh so then we pulled all our guys out and we had like 30,000 US troops and then we had our huge benefit shows and everyone's like, oh we are the world, we are the children, everyone's sending billions of dollars, Clinton and Bush. And now we fast forward a year later and all we're waiting for is for the shill government to be put in place which is Jude Celestine. and he will essentially hand over control to the United States government. No, no, he's handing it over to Clinton, not the US government. I'm sorry, you're right, you're right, to Clinton. To Clinton, who then will subsequently build his hotels, his tax havens, everything. Yeah, it's his favorite place. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. It's where they had their honeymoon, we have to remember some of the back story. Yes, in that, you can still stay at that wonderful hotel, by the way.

39:29 Yeah, it's still open for business. So we're about to see something very, very similar. And it's important to see the players. So we caught this about a month or two ago, George Clooney hanging out with President Barack Obama. And it's about Sudan and Darfur. And we, of course, being the suspicious guys that we are, saying, oh, wait a minute, what's happening here? and uh... i think you were the one that came up with uh... his dad uh... looking like a spook are you with me john yes i said does look like a spook ok well i'm done waiting for you to chime in at any moment and how i would like to learn a role you're kind of moving along with a lot of good good let you go and let you go all right so then we find out of course is that as part of the american university in his own you know that's the whole media uh... shill a system is there in fact you even uh... told us that uh...

40:32 the famous speech by was it Roosevelt? No. Eisenhower about the media, the military industrial complex and initially was the military industrial academic complex. So we connected all those dots. So now it's time for Clooney to sell it because he's got to sell it. We've got something's going on in Sudan, something's going on in Darfur and Clooney's the man. He's got to go in and sell this thing. and so uh... what uh... did you get this uh... article email to you john maybe a couple times take it about george cluney teaming up with google and uh... several other celebrities they are going to be watching through satellite technology uh... movements of uh... what is happening in uh... sudan and he has a website for this it's called not on our watch

41:29 You can find it at not on our watch project dot org and here it is board member George Clooney the world is watching new satellite Sentinel project aims to deter war in Sudan. A new human rights project initiated by Not On Our Watch board member George Clooney will combine satellite imagery analysis and field reports with Google's MapMaker technology to deter the resumption of war between North and South Sudan. Launched today, the Satellite Sentinel project will use satellite imagery analysis and crowdsourced mapping to monitor the tense border between North and South Sudan. Okay. So, what does all this mean?

42:14 First of all, it sounds really high-tech, like George has got some kind of amazing shit going on and he's gonna be looking at everything and he'll be, he's our man in the sky, he's the eye in the sky. George Clooney is gonna make sure that there's no bad stuff going on. How many people have been killed in Sudan? And Darfur? Oh, lots. Millions. Millions. Well, you know, I... Millions. Two and a half million. But why? What is it about? What is going on in Sudan? If we were to guess, what is the fractal that we've been doing on this show probably since its inception, and one of the easiest ones is you look up the name of the country and then you use the two words in Google, oil near. That's right. So Sudan is basically, it's one big oil pit with sand on top of it.

43:08 Okay, and the thing is is that most of the good oil is in the southern part and and where's all now? There's a referendum to split the country in half because well There's evil Muslims up in the north and there you go harbored bin Laden by the way. They're terrorists of their Terrorist bin Laden the whole and pirates and yeah, and they're controlling the oil in the south of these poor peaceful people yeah and so we must put the country in half and we're gonna monitor with google satellites just to scare the crap out of you just in case you're trying to pull a fast one and we're gonna split the country in half with a referendum that's right people who probably never voted in their life january eleventh row and let me guess the red that's the point you're making a d election is going to be very similar yes i'm getting i'm getting it's falling into place pitching yes and then uh... the money will be flowing

43:58 Right and it's just amazing when you see because what of course is needed is as this is taking place this referendum was set up in 2005 as part of the comprehensive peace agreement big joke which was decided by the elites in the Hague is this is how it works like you get a bunch of Africans in Sudan they've never heard of the Hague and then the Hague's like oh we have a peace agreement here and in January 11th 2011 Love that by the way. 1-1-1-1-1. The elite's laughing in your face once again.

44:34 uh... they're gonna hold this referendum which of course uh... will it's gonna kill tons of people well you have a lot of your dad is that in order to sell it in order to sell it to the slaves the stupid slaves like us we've got to get our guy clue me in and he's he's the he's the go to the go to guy but he's not hanging around some creepy guy that every well i think i got it here so he's got the first of all he he uh... on this uh... not on our watch project dot org he brought in don cheadle Matt Damon, Brad Pitt, Jerry Weintraub. Actually, let's play a little game, John. Let's play a little game. Which name does not belong in this list? George Clooney, Don Cheadle, Matt Damon, Brad Pitt, Jerry Weintraub, or David Pressman? Who the hell is David Pressman? Bada-bing! Right off the bat, John! Great! David Pressman is an American human rights lawyer, according to Wikipedia.

45:30 former aide to Secretary of State Madeline Albright. He advises a number of highly visible individuals on foreign policy and related advocacy strategies. He served as an advisor to Secretary Lucy Napolitano and chief of staff to deputy secretary of homeland security recently he was appointed by president barack obama to serve as director for war crimes and atrocities at the national security council at the white house and he will coordinate the government's efforts to prevent and respond to mass atrocities genocide in war crimes yeah he's the he's the handler he's the handler exactly and uh... so of course uh... there's nothing at all uh... on this website about uh... you can donate

46:20 Why do they need donations? I'm looking at the stats. Sudan, which is the third largest oil producer behind Nigeria and Angola, and by the way, this is never mentioned in any of the stories. Once in a while it comes up. But they're producing without our help. I mean, in other words, I mean, we do have some, obviously, foreign oil companies there, but they're not obviously cranking it up to the max. Right now, they're producing 490,000 barrels a day, which is, which in $100 a barrel is $40 million a day. day in oil yeah exactly forty million dollars a day in oil so you're gonna donate to this and you did to this group it to the Sudanese when they're making forty million dollars a day watch what they can pump out of the ground exactly watch the fractal watch what'll happen is going to be it'll come around one one one one one one which is just unbelievable that they have this uh... referendum on the first of january on the eleventh of january at two thousand eleven

47:19 There's gonna be huge killing going on huge killing of innocent people and and then we're gonna have like oh my god We need a what should we do? Oh, let's let's have a little telethon for them. Let's send them some money So we all feel good about the elites killing black people for oil. Oh Actually, the notion that everything is, you know, the reason that a lot of charities work is not to really do any good, but it's to make the charitable person feel good. It's to make you feel good. That's exactly what it's for. So you don't have to think about it. Well, I did my part. I sent him a hundred bucks. Those of you in Gitmo Nation lowlands who have been following this every single year is a bunch of DJs. Radio, wacky DJ stunt. They get in something called the Glass House.

48:08 And it's a house made of glass and they broadcast for like a week non-stop and they don't sleep or eat or whatever it is. And people egg them on by donating money for Darfur. It's been going on for years this, for at least... At least four years that I can recall, maybe even longer. You need all that money so you can fly Clooney around in a private jet. Yeah, along with Brad and Matt Damon. Those things are expensive. Yes, it's like $6,000 an hour. But if you look at the links in the show notes, and I've assembled quite a number for you, you'll see the CIA activity in the Sudan been going on since the 80s.

48:46 Of course, because there's oil there. The real reason, by the way, that they're bringing in the heavy hitters, in my opinion, is because China is there. China's coming in for the oil. China is now nosing around. Oh yeah, they're handing out guns. They say, hey, give us your oil and here you have some Chinese guns. That's why, because this is what's happening in Pakistan. It's the same thing. The Chinese come in with like a $25 billion package And all we've got is like, oh, seven billion. Yeah, we don't need to assuage. I mean, the Chinese don't need to assuage their public like we do. We have to come up with a bunch of, you know, cover stories and all this other Clooney and all these other things to make everybody feel like something important is happening. That's why we're throwing money at it. Where the Chinese don't have to do that. They don't care. They just go do what they have to do. And the public over there doesn't pay any attention. They're more concerned about, you know, local politics.

49:42 And that jabroni thing, Network for Good, they're on the back end of this once again. These are the guys that we saw on the last... What was that thing we were looking at? That other fundraising thing? I don't know. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, with the knighthoods and all that. So this is... Oh right, that thing with the knighthoods. Right, Network for Good. They stole our knighthood concept. Yeah, groundspring.org, Network for Good. These are the guys that are doing all the transactions. So and and they say that they return $25 to the sector for every $1 invested in Network for Good. Sounds bogus. Well that depends on your definition of the sector. Exactly. Raised over 270 million dollars in online donations. Boy that makes us look like a couple of chumps. Jabronis. Total losers. So there's a couple of you know of course Google's in on this, the UN is in on this because they have to be.

50:40 because we're going to have to send more UN people in to make it look good. No, you have to be. Google can't not do it because they're the good guys. They're the map guys. They were strong-armed into it. I don't believe for a minute that they came up and volunteered for this job. No, no. But they love it though. It's a great PR moment. We asked Google to help us and they wouldn't. So they're letting the Africans die a miserable death, those Google horrible do-no-evil Googlers. But you hit it right on the nose there, John. The whole idea is So just so you know, and if we had known about the earthquake machine hitting Haiti we would have been able to call that one as well. It's not about the people, the people are there to die and they have to die because we have to get the oil and we got to clean these pesky people out of the way because they're living on the oil. Go away you slaves! Go away!

51:31 So you have to kill them and it's unfortunate but that's the way the word works. Where are these people? They're living on the oil. Rouse them! Yes! Send in some bad news Muslims and kill them and blame it on them. Well that's what they're gonna do because there's already the Al-Qaeda on the Sudanese peninsula. You watch Al-Qaeda in Darfur. Which one will it be, John? Will it be Al-Qaeda in Sudan or Al-Qaeda in Darfur? I think it's already been named. I think it already is. Oh, it is Al-Qaeda in Darfur? No, I think it's Al-Qaeda in Sudan. No. I don't know. I don't know. It's not catchy though. I have to go back and look at the list. It's not as catchy as the Arabian Peninsula.

52:10 The Arabian Peninsula is the best one. Yeah, they need some more marketing I mean that's set the stage for the rest of them but you can just watch you can watch and then you'll laugh later as all the stupid human resources in the in the non-african world are then Helps to make them feel good about the death that is going to take place so that we can drive our cars beep beep uh... what george cluney will put up will put together a a couple of initiatives in a couple of benefits and we'll get uh... all the all the entertainers will come in and we'll all feel good as we text some money uh... to these other guys that's how that is how it works and i and and and i think that uh... in two thousand eleven will see it will see this happen a number of times and uh... will probably probably have talking points about eventually it's very complicated because it's hard for people to understand

53:02 what it's about but just think how many times always about the oil how many times it is money involved how many times have you thought have you heard about Darfur like oh yeah well it's really sucks me yeah that's like warlords and stuff going on why are they running these people out of the country and no one ever asked the question why would the other but it's because the Muslims hate these people I don't know the whole thing the thing that's bothering me the most about this is that somebody this is obviously studied and somebody is tightening up the cycle. The cycle of doing these benefits used to be a long one. They used to be, you know, the...

53:38 Aid for the USA for Africa USA for Africa the you know these different concerts that they throw every so hands across America was my old time favorites gonna end homelessness And everyone's gonna grab a hands and all across the entire country You're gonna hold hands and but there was all kinds of holes because you couldn't get over the Rockies and there was all these issues and never did Do the thing right, but they claim they did and this was all gonna end homelessness. It didn't end anything in homelessness with the guy who put it on. But the cycle between these things is being moved closer and closer almost so they can have a weekly event.

54:19 But we need that. I guess they figured out that the public doesn't, they're too stupid. Apparently they've been snookered so much that they don't even care anymore. They just, you know, they get a guilty conscience and they throw money at it by texting. Well, no, but it's getting better now because now as a part of all banking and as a part of credit cards, uh... they're doing this in in the u k they're trying to roll this out nationally what every purchase you make every purchase you make a piece of that will go to the good cause so they can have this role this would bob geldof is all about and apparently there's some great uh... documentary in the u k was on the bbc and i can't get on their i'd player but it was like it's all about bob geldof and and and uh... and the other guy uh... i forget his name

55:04 And how they really started this rolling these guys they are they are so in and Meanwhile, it's like oh sir Bob or st. Bob or whatever, but it's you're right They've tightened it up and it's just going round and round and now we're actually gonna take money out of every purchase you make To keep that thing going which is the feel-good foundation if you want to feel good Send us some money. Yeah, we're the ones that are broke. Yeah, well, not quite broke, but yeah, two weeks of no agenda away from being broke. We're not getting $200 million like these other guys are getting from all these, you know,

55:41 Whoever's donating I have no idea. I mean, I'm sure that most of the people that donate to our show are not donating to these other Initiatives because they've you know, we've they might they might they might not maybe they would I mean once in a while I hear something I go home. That's a pretty good idea You know, I feel like donating to something I have to look into it. I mean most people don't do that that's the problem hmm, but so gild off was that we in the boomtown rats is that this yes uh... he did uh... i don't like mondays was his number one hit is only hit i think boomtown rancid you do see today take a page from bono or what's the deal with these guys uh... the both come from the same region but i think uh... bob was has been around longer than bono uh... uh... you know bob's got a single doing his uh... his watch commercials with uh... jimmy wales

56:33 So he's spinning his goodness out, that's okay. A guy's got to eat. But if you really want to look into all of Live Aid and USA for Africa, the whole joke of it is we were going to end all this horrible stuff in Africa with the first Live Aid, which by the way was a spectacular media event. also has hands across america don't get yourself and jobs across america that's a bit now there you go to the that's the chat room is already organizing that one why i was held on thirteenth of july this along with this one ninety three i think was nineteen eighty five eighty five right it was organized by bell bob geldorf and major uri major of the ultra box to uh... raise funds for the relief of the ongoing ethiopian famine right

57:22 which by the way the Ethiopians are now well fed by Monsanto. Hey! That's right. Billed as the global jukebox, by the way they have so they're not hungry anymore they're just malnourished. Yep, they're doing groovy now. Billed as the global jukebox the event was held simultaneously in Wembley Stadium in London and the john f kennedy stadium in philadelphia that there are some listeners of the show who were who were not alive and did not witness live aid that's how long ago was yes a long time ago it's a twenty uh... with uh... twenty five years ago twenty-six almost and then we have a we have listeners that we had you were safe for africa uh... uh... with we are the world we had band-aid and it all includes the same people over and over again

58:12 and and and i think we've mentioned every time they do it the money gets moved over somewhere are they you know they make a bunch of money on the album and everybody somebody makes a fortune just just so you know it because i i think we mentioned this before but like we are the world uh... which is written by michael jackson lionel richie a couple of people about most of these uh... big benefits the rights the money from the rights only goes to the cause for like three years then it reverts back to the artist or to the to the author of the composer and the author it's not in perpetuity by all means but there's always complaining after the fact that where's the money go and we need some accounting and they never get it of course not shyster show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity

58:57 Listen to this the performers that that got into this you remember Phil Collins got on the Concorde he started in in Wembley and then they flew him on Concorde to Philadelphia and he played it was great was amazing at the time we're like wow he was he was in in in England in London and he played there and then he got on this really fast plane and he flew all the way to America and he played there again in the same day it was amazing We had no internet, we had no cell phones back then. Man, they had everybody. Mick Jagger, Crosby, Stills and Young, Madonna, Tom Petty. I mean, you name them. Shaday. Yeah, it was awesome. David Bowie, The Who, Elton John, Paul McCartney. Let's not get off track, you groupies. So maybe we should just thank some people who are making themselves feel good by supporting us.

59:55 And halfway through the show? Yeah, we're halfway through the show. No, we talked about one thing. No, we talked about a whole bunch of... Well, this was a big one. This is a huge, huge thing. It's a huge scam. At least people are going to get it. Wait a minute, let me just see what Clooney is saying. What you can do. Maybe we can learn something for the pitch. Clooney says, you can make a difference. Stay informed. Call on your elected representatives to take action. Educate your community. Make a donation to support emergency and life-saving programs. There we go, John. That's it. John, I would like people listening to the show to make a donation to support emergency and life-saving programs. Namely ours. Yes. Seriously? No, I think people should and stay informed. He's actually plugging our show. Thanks, Georgie. Oh my goodness.

1:00:46 Unbelievable. Okay, so we can just wait for it. We can just wait for the atrocity to take place and then we'll have the big benefit and I wonder who's gonna be headlining the big benefit this year. Who can headline a Darfur benefit? I don't know. We gotta have some African. It'll be one of the regular... well it'll be, yeah, I bet maybe, I don't know, maybe that guy from Haiti will even be at the thing. Oh man, maybe. So anyway, let's thank some people. Look up the Cohen letters. There's two of them that I was reading earlier, but I blew off my browser. The what letters? The letters from, if you look at Eric's second note, or his first note, one of the two. He, one of our donors, who is... I don't know what you're talking about. Craig Cohen, go look up Craig Cohen. He's got two emails.

1:01:40 that he sent that you for his donation he does they're not in the spreadsheet so i can go look him up but i'm i'm going now jesus because you can do it in the instant with whatever it is you've got there well not an incident but it does go pretty fast uh... so let's thank a few people including lois whitman has lowest whitman's action major p r person in uh... new york city uh... the She gave us $111.11. I want to thank her. Todd McGreevy, she's actually one of the great PR women that actually worked today. If she was in Hollywood, she'd be, they'd probably try to kill her. Hey, I got it. Todd McGreevy, Davenport, Iowa, $111.11. Thank you guys for your commitment and discipline to inform and entertain so we loyal listeners in the

1:02:31 in the May live semi sane, I don't know what that means. Anyway, now let's go out and propagate the formula. Just like a missing word every... I got, I got Craig Cohen's email. Okay, we're gonna get right, we'll get to him shortly. Okay. There should be two letters from Cohen. There's two of them. One of them is interesting because he mentions the fact that he had to do a report on something we discussed. No, I don't have that one. Oh, well, he used our documentation because our show notes are so extensive. and they are and people it students out there who listen to show should everyone so if you need to do a report or something go back if you can find the show that we did something Gordon take notes and you will find that all the research done for you that it will allow you to do some pretty spectacular so it's all part of the package that we deliver to you right for very little money Simon Feld Olsen in busker rude Norway under $11.11 thanks for opening my eyes

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1:09:15 Well, it would do some good for Clinton. He needs the, you know, the expense of flying around in a G-5. Yeah, it is. Well, he takes that from his Chinese donations to his library. And by the way, people who are wondering, I get a lot of email about that. It's mail steward is the program I'm using for that rapid recall of emails. Mail steward. It's really quite an amazing little Little program steward as in yes do word not in John Stewart, but steward Okay, and it stores all your email is it only on a Mac?

1:09:52 Sure. Yep. You're absolutely positive. Yes, and it stores all your email in a SQL database and the retrieval is smoking. There's got to be an equivalent on the PC. You know I can't even, no, it is not because the reason why is it is extremely inefficient to store your email in a database if you're more than one person. If it's just one guy and it's your own database it's amazing. So there's no scale to it but this guy who's a listener who listened to the show by the way he after I paid him You paid him to listen? That's not right. No, I paid him for the software. Oh. Because you could try it out a free version and then he actually did hook me up I have to say. I bought the pro version. He said no no no I'll send you that money back. So I did wind up paying him for at least for some of it, thank God.

1:10:37 But he's now listening to the show, he's like, oh my god, you guys are amazing. But go check out his software, Mail Steward. It actually works. It's better than Google. It's just it doesn't scale to a huge amount of email like Google does. And it's only on the Mac, as far as I know. But the concept can easily be ported to Windows and it's just someone has to do it and he did the work. That's what I like about it. It's a search algorithm. Yeah, well it's a sequel, that's all it is. So, you know, I'm so convinced now that someone in the White House listens to this show. Hello, by the way, welcome to the program, in the morning to you there at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. We know you're listening because no sooner do I start bitching about the president not being able to stop smoking after Robert Gibbs on the Robert Gibbs show in the morning

1:11:32 said that the president was not proud of his smoking just three weeks ago we played that sound clip on the air because it's been a little over three weeks since Mickey and I have stopped smoking now it's like you know it's like oh this is a big deal we've got to tell everyone the president stopped smoking and Gibbs is out there lying lying because you know he hasn't stopped smoking but now on the last show I played the sound clip we're going well I haven't seen any evidence of him smoking for nine months So of course, we call him on that. Now finally he comes out and now he just gives us the bold-faced lie. So there's a tweet today, something to announce about the president and his maybe past smoking habit. I love this. Robert Gibbs was tweeting. Now I got to tweet this. Ah those damn guys from No Agenda. I was asked, I was doing some questions on Twitter. I was doing some questions on Twitter and people were saying, hey on No Agenda they say the president's a pussy. What are you gonna do about that Gibbsy? This morning was asked

1:12:29 uh... whether the president was still smoking and i can report that uh... it's been uh... probably about nine months and probably about nine months you know i know exactly the date that i stopped smoking anyone who stops smoking can tell you to the day to the minute to the second when they stop smoking true or not i don't know don't please see last month a cigarette uh... he has done enormously well in quitting uh... it was just a he's done enormously well in quitting what does that say to you john That he's still smoking. That means he has failed. It was a commitment that I think he made to himself. You quit or you don't quit, you don't do enormously well. No, he's done enormously well. The guy just can't help himself lying here. He's letting it be known that he hasn't stopped. Well, listen to him, listen to him. He's done enormously well in quitting. It was a commitment that I think he made to himself at the end of healthcare and with his two daughters in mind.

1:13:31 He hasn't quit. Have him come out and say it. Say, I Barack Obama have quit smoking. Then I'll believe it. Yeah, that would be the way to go. Because right now Gibbs there at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. I'm sorry. I should actually, the language you understand there. That's what you guys, you speak Chinese. You know, all you do is pandering to the Chinese. Hey, I'm Barack Obama. Obama. We should play more of that. Maybe we can get some guns from the Chinese. We got a letter from a guy in China who says it's almost impossible to get a PayPal payment out of China or send money out of China if you're over there. He says it's just a nightmare trying. We find that to be a problem with a lot of our foreign contributors.

1:14:20 Hey man, you haven't played one single one of your clips. You haven't asked. John, do you have any clips for today? No, I've got none. You've got nothing at all. I have a couple interesting things. if you don't mind saying so yourself. Since we're on smoking, do you want to play the new 2011 Shantix ad? Oh! Yes! Now they're playing it the same, you know, they're lightening it up a little bit. They got a Boston sounding woman, so she sounds down to earth, she's very pretty, but she's got that annoying Boston accent that makes her sound like she's a housewife. Is she of milf quality? Yeah, definitely. You would think she's definitely that 10 point milfer by your standards, and I know what they are.

1:15:02 and uh... he uh... it's just interesting and that you know still can't can we just remind people about shantyx Yes, but before we play this, by the way, this is not an ad for the show, obviously. Chantix is an extremely dangerous product that is on the market to keep people from smoking and they soft-pedal it on these ads even though the disclaimers are all in there. We have plenty of documentation including Mickey there at the Watchtower Command Center who has tried this stuff and it's not to be used. It can make you crazy, it can make you kill, it can make you kill yourself,

1:15:37 kill others you will wake up naked in your neighbor's backyard not knowing what happened not knowing how you got there and that's the only good thing that can happen. It says you might I'm just guessing that they'll say you might have some crazy dreams. Oh yeah the dreams are nutty. And the only way to get off this stuff is to start smoking again so if you are smoking this shan... if you're smoking... if you're You could, it's better to snort bath salts, okay? They have changed the pitch a little bit, I have to say, because I was listening. They've changed the pitch where now, apparently, I don't know if I'm not mistaken, the old way was you took the shantix and you stopped wanting to smoke and you stopped immediately. This one wants you, this new pitch wants you to keep smoking. Oh, even better.

1:16:23 while you're taking shantix and then ease yourself off. Now I think the original shantix had a similar system but you just didn't, you wouldn't want to smoke no matter what. Play it, play it, play it. That part works. Anyway, please if you're on this stuff get off it now, light up a cigarette and then just, and by the way I have some stop smoking things to talk about after this. I do remember sitting down with my boys and I'm like, promise mommy you'll never ever pick up a cigarette. They had to quit. My doctor gave me a prescription for Chantix, a medication I could take and still smoke while it built up in my system. Chantix is a non-nicotine pill proven to help people quit smoking. It reduces the urge to smoke. Some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping Chantix. If you notice any of these symptoms or behaviors, stop taking... If you see something, say something. Mel Gibson, get off the

1:17:24 the shantyx! My Benjamin, he helped me with the countdown. Ben, how many days has it been? Five days mom, ten days mom. I think after thirty days he got tired of counting. It's a new year, so ask your doctor about Chantix and find out how you can save money on your prescription. Go to Chantix.com to learn more and get terms and conditions. Yeah, this of course is the bonanza period for guys like doing the Chantix. Because the first of January is when everyone wants to quit.

1:18:22 Right. Yeah, absolutely. It's a dynamite marketing scheme. These guys are, I mean the product is what it is, but the marketing people are just on it. Should I tell you, Mickey and I quit cold turkey. We are now, in fact Sunday it'll be one month since we've been smoking free. You know what the only issue is and I'll just speak for myself because you know I can't I don't speak about women like this but you get really bloated and constipated When you stop, if you've been smoking for a long long time like I have. Really? Yes, 30 years of smoking and I've been looking online and this is a common problem. Because your whole body is kind of in this mode of the nicotine is processing everything then all of a sudden you don't produce as many, I don't know, gall or whatever the hell it is and it's just it's been atrocious. You got plenty of gall.

1:19:20 Whatever you call it. Stuff in your stomach. And it was really, really, really bad. And finally stuff is starting to work right. Yeah, but this has been a month. And I've read some people... That's funny because I never knew that. And I've read stories of people... Never discussed. Well no, because it's kind of... Who wants to say that I can't poop? And let's be honest, anyone who listens to this show knows that I'm a regular pooper. And I pride myself on my pooping. And now it's like this has been a real problem. You go for like three days? That's horrible. Your stomach gets all bloated and then you know then go into some... He prunes, that's my advice. You know it doesn't matter what you do. Nothing helps. I've been reading stories of people who actually started smoking again. It got so bad. So they can poop? So they could poop again, yeah. Wow. But you never read anything about this.

1:20:14 At all. Yeah. Unless you start looking for it. But anyway. That's an interesting... that's... I didn't know. Hey, that's an interesting tidbit I learned on that No Agenda show. I think I'll donate to them. I think they should. And by the way, we forgot to mention that to donate, you go to Dvorak.org slash NA, channel Dvorak.com slash NA or thenoagenda show.com and help us out because it is a short week, a short week in terms of nobody's listening to the show so our donations are down. So let's pick up the pace for next year. have a divorce dot org and and thanks and thanks everybody who came in under the fifty dollar mention level all of our five dollar a month subscribers are lucky thirty dollars are thirty three thirty three boarding pass donors thank you to all of you are five uh... uh... five by one

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1:21:48 now I'm happy to bring it to you yes and so now the so after I got that commercial I ran into an interesting situation which I think may evolve there is a I ran into another commercial for an over-the-counter drug product sold like shanty X and all these other you know with all the disclaimers accepted disclaimers in this case room is more of a sales pitch but the exact they've decided that this model of a long boring commercial in this case is talking about discomforts which is like I never heard the word used like this before but it's comforts is like not being able to poop is one discomfort this may be actually about your problem and it's a commercial call that which you can see we will play which is fashioned after the ill you know the the prescription drug model and I found it fascinating that someone would put try to pull this that's like doing a Bayer aspirin commercial you know done as though it was a dead you know dangerous drug

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1:23:38 My digestive system is back in balance. I'm myself again, and I feel better than I ever imagined. To receive your coupon, simply download it online at tricestinex.com. This is a limited time offer, so go online now and get the relief you need. So it's clinically proven, but it's not an actual drug because there's no disclaimers. Right, so it's just poop it out calm stuff. Yeah, it's just basically a prune ad But the way they played it instead of the instead of the this bubbly guy yeah, well yeah Discomforts is very that is a very interesting use of the because discomfort if you have discomfort But this discomforts means you have more than one poop problem. It's just some sort of it is that you do you have additives?

1:24:25 Adam do you have discomfort? I have made massive discomforts although it's getting somewhat better without the help of any type of medication It's just your diet. You've got to adjust your diet. You have fruit and fruit Fiber then and we all know on this show John you care about my fiber I've always cared about your fiber. I'm worried for you. Thank you. I feel pretty good though. I'm just was a little bloated for a month I'm telling you for a whole month. I have an end of show clip By the way, which I'd like to play at the end of the show which is John Young of Kryptome and

1:25:08 Yeah, what about him? So he actually in this clip which aired on Russia Today, it's an interview. Let me see how long it is. Russia Today. It's a long clip, John. Shit. It's really worth it though. He basically explains how leaks work. He was one of the founders of WikiLeaks. with uh... julian assange and so did you did you read the article at the bus on the someone was doing that you read the article about somebody who did an analysis of one of the big newspapers about leaks and they could get into the media and that we can use it you took into all this the least ever done is only like less than ten percent or something like that well there's a couple things that i read one is uh... the ministry of truth npr actually came out with a statement which i thought was interesting

1:25:55 I'm citing from this, December 28th, in recent weeks NPR hosts, reporters and guests have incorrectly said or implied that WikiLeaks recently has disclosed or released roughly 250,000 US diplomatic cables. Although the website has vowed to publish 251,287 leaked United States Embassy cables as of December 28, 2010, only 1,942 of the cables has been released. So I thought that was good that they did that but it shows you what we need next from them is many NPR host reporters and guests have incorrectly stated that Don't Ask Don't Tell has been repealed. That's the next thing I'm waiting for them to say. Well that ain't gonna happen. No it ain't gonna. Even Joe Biden was sending out emails to everyone, hey now that we've repealed Don't Ask Don't Tell, lying sack. So no I didn't read that I did read Haiku leaks. Oh? Yes Haiku leaks.

1:26:54 Someone's gone through the trouble of making haikus of 1830 cables. Would you like a sampling? Yeah, might as well. King Hamad Flatley stated that Bahrain is not happy with Qatar. That's a haiku. Yeah, it's a haiku. They are being seen as barometers for next year's nationwide vote. So there's a link in the show notes to the haiku leaks. But no, I didn't see whatever you were talking about. So there's a clip I got on here called Helicopter Parents that we played. The house was abuzz as I was making clips last night over this particular

1:27:43 This was a... over the... we have the weekend crew doing most of the stuff on MSNBC, CNBC, all these... all the talking heads... alphabet soup channels. It's all the substitutes and actually some of the shows are now better. Because there's substitutes are trying to show off. Oh, yeah, right, right, but sometimes they don't have the good technical staff So it kind of falls apart this guy's during the week because on the weekends Yeah, that staff is they're all they're not going to work in weekends, but during the week when the substitutes take over They're actually improving the shows mostly But anyway, there's this, this, this, this, just a report about what Ford's doing and how it got everybody abuzz about the fact that the next generation, not the generation of millennials that we're dealing with now, uh, you know, where there seems to be no interest in working or doing, actually doing anything other than reading and sitting around. Uh, but then generation after that, which may be developing into a group that is,

1:28:38 that is dominated by helicopter parents. My daughter was mentioning that her high school that she goes to, the group coming up behind her, which is all helicopter parents' children, are just basically right now in the school system, in a lot of school areas, there's more parents, you know, they always said that the irony of this, of course, is that we've always said, oh, the parents should be more involved. They should be in the PTA. They should be doing this and that. Now they are, and it's ruining the kids can't make decisions. The parents are all over everything. It's all part of a system change that's been taking place. And this little report on a new Ford initiative, it kind of highlights where this is headed.

1:29:19 Remember driving your first car, the open road, cruising around with your teenage friends, your choice of tunes playing on the radio. Well, forget that. Ford Motor Company now not only allowing parents to control the keys, but the car radio as well. The automaker announcing today a new feature that will allow mom or dad to block 16 channels on Sirius satellite radio deemed too mature for teenagers. It means no more Howard Stern or Hip Hop Nation for teen ears. The censorship feature already allows parents to limit the car's top speed and audio volume. It even keeps music on mute until that seat belt is buckled.

1:29:59 All of which sounds okay for safety, but had us wondering what's next. Will Ford give parents webcams for the backseat to make sure there's no hanky-panky at the drive-in? That shit's un-American, John. That's just un-American. So we basically got everybody chatting this, about this phenomenon of helicopter parents who are hovering over their kids all the time. And the fact that, my wife predicts, and everybody is in agreement with her, that by the time these kids get out of college, they won't be able to make any decision on their own. They'll be just basically the worst kind of slave.

1:30:36 I mean hopeless, you know, they can't, they won't be able to resolve anything. It's going to be a disaster and the entire system is like working this in, in the background and as we're like, you know, maturing and it's going to be, it's going to ruin the country. Anyway, that's... No, I think you're right and there's a lot of evidence to back that claim up and there's a lot, you know, there's things happening on the other end as of January 1st, 2011, 10,000 baby boomers a day will be entering Social Security. 10,000 a day. Yeah, well that's going to be an interesting... is that what you were going to say? Well it's going to break the bank, that's for sure. Now, while we're on this topic of these helicopter parents and the kids, I was watching one of the Dylan Rattigan show this week, he had a substitute guy named Matt something, they never said his name, I got clip after clip from this character.

1:31:28 Very good host actually, except for his voice being a little high-pitched and he doesn't listen very well compared to some people. But there was this thing about the... play the No Child Left Behind clip and they're going over predictions for the next couple years. So this guy comes on this show on MSNBC and he's making these predictions and he's, you know, progressive, the network's progressive. And he says that no, he mentions that no child left behind is one of the things that's got to go because it's been a disaster. It hasn't done anything and it's just kind of ruined the lives of a lot of teachers and it hasn't improved any student's abilities to think for themselves or to think better or to analyze things. And it's also put us in this testing mode so kids are only trained to take tests.

1:32:14 uh... meanwhile of course the guy because he's trying to get a job at msnbc cuz he's a substitute uh... kind of just basically feels like shorts out and tells the guy you know pretty much to uh... be quiet. So we've got six things that we know are going to happen, right? Well, we think. There's a problem with two of them. No one pays attention to the president's budget. No one ever has and no one ever should. It's Congress's job to do the budget. And then the second thing is no child left behind is the worst piece of legislation ever passed by Congress of all time. Why do you say that? Because it did nothing to make our kids smarter. Well, can the federal government really do that? It did do some things. Ask incoming speaker John Baker who wrote John Boehner who wrote John Boehner who wrote. Why would he go and do that?

1:32:55 Oops. What is this? I can't... AAAAAAAAHHHHH! Got a million things happening at the same time, John. Help me. I, uh, push the, uh, reboot. Uh, hit the, hit the, uh, control alt delete. I don't want to reboot. Okay. Try, uh... So, wait a minute, who is... It's gone crazy! It's just starting to play by itself! I don't hear anything. Yeah, no, you don't hear it, but I do. You don't hear that? Well, it's very low. Your levels are weird. Ah, shoot. I can't stop this thing. It's out of control. I can't stop it. I can't stop it. This, kids, is why you shouldn't try to do podcasting. It's too complicated. It really is. Okay. So, as a... You can hear the clip, though, right? You heard the clip? No, I only heard the beginning and then when you started moaning and groaning, I stopped hearing it. I'll just play it again just to make sure.

1:34:01 So we've got... You can hear that? Yeah. Okay, alright, here we go. So we've got six things that we know are gonna happen, right? Well, we think. There's a problem with two of them. No one pays attention to the President's budget, no one ever has and no one ever should. It's Congress's job to do the budget. And then the second thing is No Child Left Behind is the worst piece of legislation ever passed by Congress of all time. Why do you say that? Because it did nothing to make our kids smarter. Well, can the federal government really do that? It did do some things like... Ask incoming speaker John Baker who wrote... John Boehner who wrote it... John Boehner who wrote it and asked Ted Kennedy... That's so childish when someone makes a mistake like that to like make fun of it. No, I agree. That's just the guy trying to get this guy off this track. That's really childish, but okay. Fortunately he has since moved on.

1:32:55 Oops. What is this? I can't... AAAAAAAAHHHHH! Got a million things happening at the same time, John. Help me. I, uh, push the, uh, reboot. Uh, hit the, hit the, uh, control alt delete. I don't want to reboot. Okay. Try, uh... So, wait a minute, who is... It's gone crazy! It's just starting to play by itself! I don't hear anything. Yeah, no, you don't hear it, but I do. You don't hear that? Well, it's very low. Your levels are weird. Ah, shoot. I can't stop this thing. It's out of control. I can't stop it. I can't stop it. This, kids, is why you shouldn't try to do podcasting. It's too complicated. It really is. Okay. So, as a... You can hear the clip, though, right? You heard the clip? No, I only heard the beginning and then when you started moaning and groaning, I stopped hearing it. I'll just play it again just to make sure.

1:34:01 So we've got... You can hear that? Yeah. Okay, alright, here we go. So we've got six things that we know are gonna happen, right? Well, we think. There's a problem with two of them. No one pays attention to the President's budget, no one ever has and no one ever should. It's Congress's job to do the budget. And then the second thing is No Child Left Behind is the worst piece of legislation ever passed by Congress of all time. Why do you say that? Because it did nothing to make our kids smarter. Well, can the federal government really do that? It did do some things like... Ask incoming speaker John Baker who wrote... John Boehner who wrote it... John Boehner who wrote it and asked Ted Kennedy... That's so childish when someone makes a mistake like that to like make fun of it. No, I agree. That's just the guy trying to get this guy off this track. That's really childish, but okay. Fortunately he has since moved on.

1:34:42 Well, the one thing I'd say though on No Child Left Behind, it doesn't do anything that really gets us where we need to go on education. So don't reauthorize it. But I give George W. Bush credit for unpacking the test scores of Hispanic and African American kids because troubled schools or schools that weren't failing in total used to hide all the test scores of those kids and now that's exposed to the light of day which at least gives reformers at the grassroots level some teeth politically to be able to move on on this. Well these predictions I'm sure will be good for at least a couple of hours after we've announced them. I think they'll be infallible and we'll be looking forward to this. Jimmy Williams.

1:35:19 I don't like that guy. I don't like the guy at all. No, no, you're talking about the host that jumped on this guy with the Baker comment. Now I agree 100% you run into... The funny thing is you'd never do that. I mean you can do that if the guy makes a mistake and he drives it home, he says John Baker and he keeps talking but he corrected himself immediately and then the guy jumped on him for making the faux pas and it wasn't funny. I mean if it was something funny you could play off. So the guy's a dick. yeah that's any has issues that's a problem i agree i mean when you say a good instead of well you don't correct yourself i correct you that's a difference than did you know what i do it on purpose i mean well you say that i mean well if you said that i would say anything i mean so that that was a dickish thing to do so he's a host at that meet but you could tell that he was like oh wait a minute this is not part of our checklist progressive checklist no child left behind sexy good thing on the few things bush did it was any good yeah

1:36:15 and uh... but is bogus and i had one of these days and you know i really laced into this the whole no child left behind is bull crap the entire charter school thing is bull crap all the stuff is bull crap to the education system in this country stinks and that's one of the reasons that it came up in the conversation we're talking about uh... uh... helicopter parents anyway that's a clip doesn't check one thing here john and that part works You want more stuff? You got something. Uh, I got a couple things. Um... So I got a lot of emails from people who Say it's the same basics link that I kept getting Three very large objects in space flying will crash into earth in 2012 kind of around December from the examiner giant spaceships to attack And of course, you know, I'm like hey that's kind of interesting I think I will look into that

1:37:17 and uh... so it has been uh... very well debunked and that there's a lot of things wrong with uh... with the story and i'm the first guy who wants to believe this three blue ships flying towards earth you know i desperately want to believe that But there's listeners know this yeah, you you deaf desperately want to believe oh, yes, well I do it. I mean I believe I believe no matter what but I want these things to be true, but this obviously Was not and was actually it's a very good Debunking which I put in the in the show notes it is actually an anomaly on the on the lens and I'd I'd really buy it because you know the there's no guy at SETI named this way and this is the whole thing is wrong and

1:38:00 But a lot of people like emailing that around however It's important that these stories come out now because we have on the way in 2011 Skyline uh... the battle of los angeles two thousand eleven super eight and falling skies all great in alien invasion movies and shows a b of course also uh... on the way in the new uh... tv season all coming out so that's what we have to have the stories in the media and this is actually sent by joseph uh... joseph thomas a producer had no agenda who is very alert and says, oh wait a minute when these stories start to hit that's usually because there's some kind of great movie coming out. So we got five of them on the way. There is one link however I'd like to mention and this is a photo that was found of course through excellent sleuthing on the interwebs of the Mars Exploration Rover

1:38:58 which actually has been dead, they're starting to remove pictures from the NASA site which is always suspicious and they apparently can't reach the rover anymore but there's this one picture It's the rear HasCam Sol 2169 and I swear to God you can see a base sitting there on the surface of Mars. I'm telling you. This is the Spirit front cam and there's a base. You can literally see the base sitting right there. There's a base on Mars. And now they're removing these pictures from the NASA website.

1:39:36 So, not believing these flying saucers going to hit the earth in December 2012, definitely thinking there's something going on with the base on Mars which the Spirit rover photographed and these pictures are now being pulled off of the NASA website. Why would they pull these pictures off? I don't know. It doesn't make any sense. Exactly. That's my point exactly, John. Maketh no sense. Well, since I got a transitionary clip, play French guy babbling. Alright, here we go, French guy babbling. Nicolas Sarkozy himself and his deputy were very critics against the two journalists Hervé and Stéphane, saying they took too many... What the hell is this guy saying? Where is this from? It's from Democracy Now! That's excellent.

1:40:30 I love it. folks neither which live in france that uh... i recall who donated the show over the last two years i think is a ridicule of french constantly because of that uh... well-done world you know you got this are which is good and is a nice place to be a we have sarcozy out there saying once again i think we should uh... by the way i think that the uh...

1:41:13 Yes, Sarkozy's off on the deep end with this, you know, let's dump the dollar and I think he's up for being, I think he's putting his life at risk. And putting on the no agenda predictions that Sarkozy's either going to be out of office or something bad's going to happen. Really? He can't do that. Wow. We're not going to, only during this economic time when we can print money and since the dollar is the currency uh... the the reserve currency for the world and uh... the allows us to control the economies of everybody uh... we cannot allow us we cannot not be a lot of

1:41:51 we cannot move from s the daughter anything else and anyone who who suggests it or promotes it or anything else is is up for a a ball that's not entirely true because this has been part of the g twenty initiative for a while is not have a game at that that's only a justin just lip service but there's nobody says serious about it Well, but like Sarkozy, I mean, he's obviously, it's lip service from him too. Yeah, but I think it's not approved lip service. I think there's a difference. Oh really? You think he's just shooting his mouth off and that's it? Yeah, big shot. Oh, oh. That's what I'm thinking. I'm just thinking because this is not a time that we can do anything like this.

1:42:31 uh... i've got a a couple of other clips we might be interested in uh... for what is a series of robert right clips which are kind of interesting where do i know this name for a he's the ex-secretary of labor under clinton is now professor university california berkeley news of those is that real short little guy who was actually been gives very entertaining speeches but he did he falls into the trap of you know of accusing corporations that of wrongdoing in a way that is too obvious and it all leads to his concept and many progressives think this way, that the only way out of this mess that we have with all these

1:43:09 politicalists that have sold out to large corporations is that you do campaign finance reform which was a lot of really i don't want to know that's never gonna happen because the media is the beneficiary of these extremely expensive campaigns in the media what are they gonna do should this as the foot they don't make enough money as it is and the media is the one who eventually will pull the plug on anybody who talks about campaign finance reform. But let's play these Robert Reich clips and we can get kind of into what he's currently promoting. I drank one of the problems and I don't want to tar all Democrats with this but at least some Democrats with regard to campaign donations are drinking at the same trough as Republicans they're going to big corporations earlier this year the Supreme Court you remember said in one of the worst Supreme Court decisions in history in Citizens United against the Fair Election Commission that corporations are people

1:42:31 uh... i've got a a couple of other clips we might be interested in uh... for what is a series of robert right clips which are kind of interesting where do i know this name for a he's the ex-secretary of labor under clinton is now professor university california berkeley news of those is that real short little guy who was actually been gives very entertaining speeches but he did he falls into the trap of you know of accusing corporations that of wrongdoing in a way that is too obvious and it all leads to his concept and many progressives think this way, that the only way out of this mess that we have with all these

1:43:09 politicalists that have sold out to large corporations is that you do campaign finance reform which was a lot of really i don't want to know that's never gonna happen because the media is the beneficiary of these extremely expensive campaigns in the media what are they gonna do should this as the foot they don't make enough money as it is and the media is the one who eventually will pull the plug on anybody who talks about campaign finance reform. But let's play these Robert Reich clips and we can get kind of into what he's currently promoting. I drank one of the problems and I don't want to tar all Democrats with this but at least some Democrats with regard to campaign donations are drinking at the same trough as Republicans they're going to big corporations earlier this year the Supreme Court you remember said in one of the worst Supreme Court decisions in history in Citizens United against the Fair Election Commission that corporations are people

1:44:03 and they're entitled to provide as much money to campaigns and to politicians as they want. Otherwise, their First Amendment rights would be a breach. Well, you can't have it both ways. You said earlier, and I agree with you, that corporations are not people. They are just machines. They are just designed to maximize profits. If we actually treat them as people and say that they have First Amendment rights to undermine and corrupt our politicians and our political process, then we're really in trouble because they don't really represent America and Americans. Well, they keep calling them American companies or even corporate America, but do these so-called American companies have any obligation to America?

1:44:43 Okay, well this is we've heard this before yeah, and I don't want to hear it again. Let's change the topic. Okay, right? Here's one that's interesting. This is the Germans who? Are they're having a big debate in Germany? I got this off the Deutsche Welle Which you listen to all the time of course? What you listen to Deutsche Welle all the time so you don't have to yes of course and This is the laughable profiling debate in Germany clip and it talks about what's going on there. They're having real serious debates in Germany about trying to speed up their, they have a TSA problem there too and they want to take the Israeli approach or some people have suggested it but everyone says no, no, no.

1:45:29 and you know and it's never gonna happen in Germany because it would hurt somebody's feelings essentially they're worse off than we are and I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that there's still guilt ridden over what they did to the Jews in World War II. No, that's not true. Not anymore. Play the clip. Hello and welcome. Germany's Justice Minister has rejected a proposal for airports in the country to introduce passenger profiling as a way of making air travel more secure. Sabine Leutheuser-Schneidenberger says she thinks the idea contravenes German and European laws on equality. The proposal would see passengers screened according to risk groups and limit rigorous checks to those thought to pose a threat.

1:46:11 The German Airports Association argues similar checks are already in use at Israeli airports and would speed up passage through security. Critics have blasted the method as both ineffective and discriminatory. Well now our correspondent John Berwick is standing by at our parliamentary studios. John, where did these proposals and these demands come from and just why are they so controversial? Well, security has been stepped up at public buildings in Germany, including of course airports in recent weeks, since the intelligence services here received information of a concrete terrorist threat. That was some weeks before Christmas.

1:46:51 And of course that's involved the airports in further delays. I say further delays because of course the snow here has caused already a chaos in air traffic. But it's also involved them of course in additional costs and that's presumably why they've made the suggestion to create profiles and to concentrate on the more likely suspects. Now John, have these ideas yet found support? No, they haven't. On the contrary, they've been quite vehemently rejected and I think there's very little chance that they'll be adopted for two reasons. Firstly, the terrorist organizations can in fact use the system of profiles to their own advantage simply by choosing, recruiting people who do not fulfill the criteria of the profile. Secondly, you'll remember earlier this year we had a very heated debate here in Germany about the problems of integrating ethnic minorities.

1:47:42 and there is a strong feeling that if you create a profile, a terrorist profile that involves criteria such as ethnicity, age and gender, that you're going to make certain sections of the German population feel discriminated against. Worse still, perhaps, some people would argue that it would be in violation of the German Constitution. Are they just like six months behind or something? Yeah, at least. But let's go over a couple of memes that are in here I thought were fascinating. Yeah, for sure. The terrorist organizations are going to, the reason this won't work by the way, although it still works in Israel, but that's beside the point, is because the terrorists are geniuses and they're going to reverse engineer

1:48:23 what the profiling is and they're going to quote-unquote recruit people who do not meet the profile. In other words, cheerleaders, donut makers, people that obviously are not Middle Eastern terrorists because they have a recruiting arm and they go out and over there's somebody that doesn't look like one of them so let's get them to join our cause. This is bull crap. I mean the fact that the only guys that they have, you have to be a Muslim Islamist extremist in the first place but they're apparently out recruiting people which is essentially the German version of the homegrown terrorist issue that we have here which is a bogus issue. The other thing that's kind of interesting to me is they talked about the intelligence found concrete, they used the word concrete, terrorist threats for Christmas. Which by the way there was an actual Christmas attack

1:49:19 uh... which was not reported except in you know if i think they reported some foreign uh... broadcasts of of uh... some out of the u s broadcast and you can play it in the christmas bombings did take place i and it was completely good nobody wanted to talk about it for what various reasons that you are obvious but play the christmas bombing report you know what happened And staying in Africa, a radical Islamist sect in Nigeria has claimed responsibility for the Christmas Eve bombings and attacks on churches in the country, which left at least 86 people dead. In a statement on the group's website, the sect Boko Haram said it carried out the attacks.

1:49:57 Police say the bombings and subsequent clashes between armed Muslim and Christian groups in the central city of Joz killed 80 people and wounded more than 100. Six others died when two churches in northeastern Nigeria were firebombed on Friday. Yeah, I of course did see this report and did notice it. Weird stuff going on in Nigeria in general. But of course the only reporting we get on Nigeria here as I heard, I think it was even on NPR last night. I was in the car and I heard him talking about someone getting scammed thinking they were going to get 23 million dollars from some Nigerian princess. That's all we get, yeah. Well there has been definitely a suppression of any Islamist versus Christian news

1:50:38 worldwide when they so they kill ninety people or ninety six or whatever they did with the additional dead people to their bomb and churches and it doesn't get covered at all now but meanwhile we crank up the uh... we crank up the security here and in germany and i guess elsewhere because they get wind of something that was going to happen concrete but would cool up maybe was concrete but it took place in nigeria and then they never reported on it i find the thing that i find this distressing in what way well within the same way that has been distresses as we started doing this show where the news is selectively met you know the news selection is is based on just finding ways to suppress the public not giving them any any follow-up information this was that maybe this was the concrete uh... uh... terrorist threat in nigeria in africa i mean are we always jump into conclusions that everything's going to be in our backyard when we hear something over the

1:51:38 chatter that's going on on the internet it's the chatter i tell you it's the chatter that's going did you hear the new gx2 track by the way called title chatter no yeah no once again after the long clip yeah right yeah now that everything's broken i'll be sure to be playing all you won't be playing anything And now, back to Real News. your buddy. Oh really? And Edge. The Edge. The Edge. They're financing the Spider-Man movie? The Spider-Man play in Manhattan. It's to the tune of 65 million dollars. Wow. Set it up but it looks like it may have to close because they can't. It sucks. No, because it probably does suck. But because one guy's been seriously injured and now the main lead actress got a concussion

1:52:41 What are they doing? It's a play! They're swinging around on ropes and they're doing all kinds of fancy shit that apparently was designed mostly by Hollywood stuntmen who couldn't go and do any of the work in New York because of the unions. which is underreported by the way. A lot of people say that this show is so high-tech and so weird that the people that could actually operate all the equipment are told to get lost because they're not in the union. And so the union guys are doing all of this and nobody really wants to... How about sabotage, eh? You think there's maybe some sabotage? Well, there could be and they may be trying to bust the union. It could be just the opposite of what I'm thinking. I mean, you never know with these things. But apparently,

1:53:23 it's at the verge of closing but this report is kind of funny because the guy who reports it actually contradicts his own... you can play it, it's quite funny at the end if there's a punchline to it. Star left. I mean Natalie Mendoza. Yes, she's just leaving it. Yes the lead actress who plays the villainous in the show Who is considered one of the highlights of the show is leaving you know she had a mild concussion from an accident There's already been so many accidents including them the actor who was badly injured last week So why do they always have to get the guy who does the theater reviews to be so overtly gay sounding? It's offensive to me at this point

1:54:06 It's like, you know, we're so stupid that we don't know you're a theater expert, but you have to sound that way. It's always the same. You know, it's even worse than that. You know, I was in Florida recently. There's a couple of really good channels, radio stations, that have really good morning zoos in Florida. Hey everybody, how you doing? Yay, yay, yay! It wakes you up. Yeah. And the guy they bring on to do the reviews of anything is this incredibly outwardly flaming gay. It's the same thing. It's a stereotype that's gotta go. It's a stereotype that is insulting. I'm sure it's insulting to gay people. Oh, I'm sure it is. It's just insult. It's like, oh please. You know what? If you actually knew something about theater,

1:54:48 And then I'd respect you for it, but now it's like, all right, let's finish this report. It just keeps going down and down and down. This is a show that just can't get off the ground. Her last performance was on Monday, December 20th. The production said she's been on vocal rest since then under doctor's orders. But of course she was shaken as well by watching her fellow castmate get hurt then last week. She wrote on her Facebook page that she's grateful to be down to two nausea tablets and four painkillers per day to cope with a concussion. I don't know what, I mean do you think that anybody would want to go buy tickets now to see the show that keeps having problems? Well it's interesting because some people in a very sick twisted turn to all of this say that they want to see it to see what's going to happen. It's almost like going to you know an equestrian show and wanting to see who's going to fall off the horse.

1:55:35 Wow, well, I mean of all the things you could say like how about you know going to NASCAR to see a crash? You know he got the horse, but here's the funny thing. He's bitching about people being sick. Now listen to how he finishes when she says that nobody does that. Listen. sick but there are people that have said that. I never go to see the horse show to see that. Okay, Reese... When I was a kid that was the best part. Oh really? It's like hockey, you want to see the clips, I got it. Exactly. Reese Witherspoon engaged. It's as good. Make us weekly scoop. Thank you very much. Yes, absolutely. Kill it. Wow. Anyway, no he says that is so you have to be sick and then he says that's the best part.

1:56:17 In my real news, a TV program brought to you by Discovery Communications, that would be the Discovery Channel, titled Michael Jackson Autopsy. where what really alien autopsy really killed Michael Jackson is exactly what it is what really killed Michael Jackson is so sickening I mean can we make any more money off of this poor guy he's not poor anyway he's dead you know what I saw we were visiting some friends for a Christmas Eve for dinner And they have like young kids and they got this adorable little boy. He's like four, maybe five, and he's completely nuts about Michael Jackson. He could do all the dances and everything. There's actually a game for the Wii called Dance Like Michael Jackson.

1:57:05 Wow. Yeah, and then so they've taken his videos and they've, and tons of his hits and then you hold the controller in your hand and you have to do all the dancing. I mean all the stuff just comes out just, they're making so much money on his death. Well he was the leading moneymaker last year. Yeah, I know. Dead. Yes, dead. Makes more money dead than alive. That should be a clue for you. And I have an update on our Hollywood Whackers. uh... ronnie chasen i.e. ronnie cohen former soviet spy this is from a uh... a new website which i encourage you to look at called wiki spooks and that there's a yet a new theory on the why this uh... p r lady was killed

1:57:52 Sources close to the art museum community in Los Angeles County believe Chason was murdered because of some sort of involvement in or knowledge of a scheme by police officers with access to Federal Fusion Center intelligence to steal artwork from museums and extort money from donors and owners. These same sources, and this is actually what I heard, note her involvement with her client German film score composer Hans Zimmer who has been named as a victim of illegal US espionage efforts against German citizens. So this is going deep now. This is getting crazy. It's getting good. It could be a smoke screen. Well, I like the idea of police officers trying to

1:58:36 as well and it makes some sense because the guy that was the the bicyclist is supposedly shot her who was killer committed hopes i'm sorry committed suicide s yet one of those police were involved in that investigation and it was it's a quite likely it was you know the k and and and they have and the there's no big movies on on the police in los angeles they were they've always had a sketchy uh... Yeah, character about him. I live here from the day baby They're great wrapped. They're great. I live here man. Are you out of your mind? Guys will kill me in a second. Yeah, he was running away from the scene of the crime. I had yeah, you know it was a fugitive Curry we yeah, we got him damn man. Don't do that. Just just saying right yeah, just yeah No, I don't blame you for being concerned. I am very concerned

1:59:30 To wrap it up here, unbelievable this article that there's a Belgian Catholic priest, that should set off alarms right there, who is a candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize this year, has now come out and admitted child abuse 40 years ago. He abused an eight-year-old when he was a priest. And he's still a nominee for the 2011 Nobel Peace Prize. He won't get it. No, he won't get it! But how about we lock him up? Or throw him in a loony bin? Or do something? I mean, Belgium, this is the home of Dutroux. This is the epicenter of the pedophile pedo-bear networks. So what do you expect? It's just horrible!

2:00:21 Is this a shock to you? You're stunned. Yeah, I'm stunned that he's nominated and still a nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize. It's not a fact that he won't win. You know what? Crazier? He will win. Let me tell you that. He's gonna win. That's how in their face they are about this stuff. Hey, hey, hey, watch this. We'll have him win. You sound like Bush. Yeah, well, he's part of that whole plan. It's part of it. That's sickening. So the Afghan war according to us one of these talking heads is, I think we knew this number, but it's two billion dollars a week it's costing the American taxpayers. Really? Yeah. Well that's a lot of baby boomers we could provide with Medicare.

2:01:11 two billion dollars a week and whose numbers is that is this the war that uh... that uh... bomb was gonna get he was a unit wasn't he elected to extricate us from these wars by all these liberal democrats who want to end these wars in the one to get us out and so they voted to do that and then he's it just increased it may worse my arm i don't know this that if we have not got our troops out by the time i am president It is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank. You can take that to the bank. You can take that to the bank. You can take that to the bank. Just take him to the bank. And wasn't he going to, wasn't he, the first thing he was going to do when he got in office was close Gitmo, wasn't he? Wasn't that something he promised he got all these people to vote for him?

2:02:00 to the bank. You can take that to the bank. I'm just wondering, I mean I'm just asking a theoretical question. You're just asking questions. No, no, no, instead we get the food safety bill passed, S-510, and I have to say very nice of the, I think this is, what is the name of this site? Naturalnews.com. Remember I told you that this thing was filled with all kinds of shenanigans and was really, really bad. They've gone through more of the bill and there's just one little bit that I hadn't mentioned to you about our food safety and here it is. Food safety modernization, didn't they throw the word modernization in there? Yeah, of course it's the yes modernization there's another zation thing in there. Here it is recommendations on whether and how to harmonize requirements under the Codex Alimentarius. Oh I didn't know that. Oh yeah it's right in the bill.

2:02:56 And you and that Codex. Yeah, well we started on that in early, right? We knew all about it. Well, one of the first things we did on this when we started doing this show four years ago. So that means just like in Europe, dietary supplements will be outlawed, you won't be able to have any vitamin D, vitamin C, it's all going to go away. You know, the dietary supplement thing is interesting because I think there's a secondary intended consequence. To make people sick. No, I think it's also to get right-wing talk show guys off the radio. Oh? If you go, we're trying to sell a radio show to somebody some years ago and the guy says, look, the way it works nowadays, the guy says, you're not going to get anywhere. He says, you can't get syndicated. He says, the whole business is being held up by people selling, you know, weird, you know, phony baloney snake oil on the radio, one form or another. Right, like colloidal silver and stuff like that. Yeah, or now it's a lot of gold that's a rip-off. Yeah.

2:03:56 and you know not real not going on really buying ingots but you know good subscribing to some service and now of course the thing that's really caught on is this food you know you store by foods yes storeable flood of food last 30 25 years you know why do I want to buy a bunch of food that I want the last 25 years and spend my money on this I mean, you know, come on and jump in the car and drive to some place where there's food. Keep your gas tank more than half full and get out of here. That's it. Keep some seeds. I think the seeds are still a good idea so you can grow some food. Yeah, have some seeds around. But apparently this bill is just the most onerous thing and it's going to shut down a lot of small farms. It's already doing that.

2:02:56 And you and that Codex. Yeah, well we started on that in early, right? We knew all about it. Well, one of the first things we did on this when we started doing this show four years ago. So that means just like in Europe, dietary supplements will be outlawed, you won't be able to have any vitamin D, vitamin C, it's all going to go away. You know, the dietary supplement thing is interesting because I think there's a secondary intended consequence. To make people sick. No, I think it's also to get right-wing talk show guys off the radio. Oh? If you go, we're trying to sell a radio show to somebody some years ago and the guy says, look, the way it works nowadays, the guy says, you're not going to get anywhere. He says, you can't get syndicated. He says, the whole business is being held up by people selling, you know, weird, you know, phony baloney snake oil on the radio, one form or another. Right, like colloidal silver and stuff like that. Yeah, or now it's a lot of gold that's a rip-off. Yeah.

2:03:56 and you know not real not going on really buying ingots but you know good subscribing to some service and now of course the thing that's really caught on is this food you know you store by foods yes storeable flood of food last 30 25 years you know why do I want to buy a bunch of food that I want the last 25 years and spend my money on this I mean, you know, come on and jump in the car and drive to some place where there's food. Keep your gas tank more than half full and get out of here. That's it. Keep some seeds. I think the seeds are still a good idea so you can grow some food. Yeah, have some seeds around. But apparently this bill is just the most onerous thing and it's going to shut down a lot of small farms. It's already doing that.

2:04:39 organic farms is gonna shut down the organic people who are all liberals should be up in arms about this because it's a democrat that put this in But, you know, who's paying attention to that? It's going to shut down organic milk and raw milk for sure. Those guys have got their target on their back. The whole thing is ridiculous. So Monsanto can be force-fed crap. Well, there's actually really interesting news on the Monsanto front. Neotame, which of course is the aspartame product, has now been approved for use in as a sweetener and it goes under a new name Sweetos? How did they come up with it? A sweetener for cattle feed. What? Yes, well molasses apparently is used as a feed sweetener

2:05:32 to of course mask the taste of the crap that we're feeding to the cattle. You know, because cattle are not stupid. They're like, what is this crap? Yo, Moe! How am I going to eat this? Ooh, nice and sweet. This tastes like molasses. So now Neotame, under the brand name Sweetos, has been approved as a cattle feed sweetener. Yay! 20% cheaper than molasses. Wow, you got me on that one. Yeah, 20% cheaper than molasses. It's available in both powder and liquid form, and it's good for ya. So now that's going right into the cattle. This is just more reason to find somebody, get to it, find a farmer, find somebody that grows their own meat.

2:06:20 and then throw money at them. We grow meat here. We just bought a bunch of, we just bought a half a cow and it's like you pay, like the total price is like a buck fifty. I mean it's really a lot, it's really a way to save money and get a quality, you know, some quality food because it's an organic field, you know, that things just grass-fed and does not you don't they're not screwing with it and uh... if you can anybody has got some access to the rural america you can eat like this and you eat cheaper and better and you know the worry about being poisoned this terrible well guess what that doesn't include us

2:06:57 We're just gonna get poisoned. I ain't got any of that down here. I got no farmers around here. There's farmers down there. Yeah, well, if Google one for me, I'll go visit him. Right. A buck fifty a hunt. I'm sure there's somebody right now, there's one of our listeners saying, are you kidding me? Out here in Visalia, we got two guys that grow meat. I would love nothing more than to get me a half a cow. frozen. Will they chop it up for me as well in bits? No, they cut it for you. What do you think? You're not a butcher? No, that's correct. It goes to a professional butcher. You tell them what kind of cuts you want because you can orient it toward French cuts or you want more of this or you want more bones. I mean, you have to tell them what you want. And then they cut the thing up and then they wrap it and then they... Oops.

2:07:40 You should have a big freezer, you have to buy one. And then you throw the meat in there and then you pull out stuff as you need it. Oh, here's a couple of filet mignons, I'll pull those out. Nice. And how long can you keep that frozen? Forever? A couple years, easy. Oh, okay, good. All right, I think I'm gonna do that. You should. Somebody down there must have a clue because there's, come on, there are, it is possible and it's probably within, if you can drive to Big Bear once a year, you can drive out to your farmer once a year. Oh, I'd be happy to. Just all I need is someone to tell me where to go. I'm going to go get me half a cow. A buck fifty you said? Is that all it costs? Yeah, about two fifty max. For a half a cow?

2:08:20 per pound for you to get a lot of scraps and stuff in there but you get it to believe me it's the cheapest is cheap it's way cheaper than what you're paying the cheapest meat you can typically buys like a Costco where you were is a lot of you know but ninety nine to ninety nine stuff it's cheaper it's did get it's just cheaper and Mickey just said if I wanna poop I shouldn't be eating meat at all that's that's that makes no sense that makes no sense Mickey yeah anyway she said there's somebody in there in our southern one of our producers in southern california has knows has access they have the i think i've just been denied the meat i think soy that'll be eating soy

2:09:05 so i my brain of the shrinking and great front and brain shrink and brain doing the show mostly babbling as opposed to uh... right so and if show clip will be a john young uh... co-founder of wiki leaks who of course split off after he uh... i got in there every published a whole bunch of emails about wiki leaks in their fundraising he didn't like it but it's really this is from russia today it's a very interesting insight into the leaking industry And I and I it's a long clip 11 minutes, so if you don't want to listen to it You can always fast forward or just stop the show But I think it's it's highly entertaining. I think John you will like it normally go last too long, but it's a very good clip

2:09:47 And it's just him talking in an interview situation, so that's nice. And I guess we won't see or talk to anyone until the new year, 2011, so keep those donations coming. The 5x1 donations, which of course will be on the same day as the death and destruction in Darfur, which is great. So we'll keep our eye on that along with George Clooney and his Eye in the Sky. And any New Year's resolutions, John? Anything you want to share? now i'm gonna lose another fifteen pounds wow well that's a lot you know i got a year right okay and i will uh my resolution is to uh get everything on the stream all set up and not have stuff crashing i was i was almost good today almost

2:10:37 because I got a lot of plans for NoahJennerStream.com for 2011 and once again we'll have two shows a week throughout the entire year who knows we might even get that primer done one of these days yeah we gotta do that that's gonna be our that's the second New Year's resolution lose 15 pounds get half a cow and do the primer show there you go Well, John, if I don't talk to you by then, which of course is likely to be the case, have a very happy new year, my friend. And happy new year to everybody who listens to the NOAA Gen, all the producers out there, we want to thank you for supporting us at divorak.org.na and next year should be a beauty.

2:11:16 I agree because we're in a growth market. Pissed off people is a growth market. Totally. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West, the last show for 2010. In the morning everybody, I am Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the traffic's backed up for some unknown reason, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back in the new year on Sunday for early morning service right here on NOAgenda. Please join us. Before there was ever WikiLeaks, there was Cryptome. The website cryptome.org has been publishing information prohibited by governments, this includes classified and secret documents, on U.S. soil since 1996. Now, the co-founder of that site joins me now to tell us more.

2:12:16 John Young, I want to thank you so much for joining us. Now, as I said, Cryptome.org has been in the business of making government secrets public long before WikiLeaks was. Tell us a little bit about the history and philosophy of your website. The site was set up principally to publish information about communication security, which is the fundamental technology for keeping secrets. And it grew out of my participation in a group called Cypherpunks. which was also a group where Julian Assange learned his skills. And so this group was composed of very highly educated engineers, scientists and technicians who were mostly working for corporations and government on the technology of communication security.

2:13:02 and they knew that this was going to come into the private market as a Cold War wound down and they wanted to get information out to the public about what was coming. So we set up this site to make that information available from people who had access to it but did not want to be identified as a source. Now, in all of the time that you've been doing this, it's attracted the attention of the FBI. I've read that you've said that FBI agents have come to visit you. What do you think their surveillance is about? They use our site to see what's going on and so that's something that we've learned about sites like ours. They're left in place in order to watch who comes there and see what kind of information we put up. Government authorities run these sites of their own and so that they watch other sites like ours. We've learned this over time is that the reason we haven't been shut down is we're useful to them to see

2:13:51 what kind of attention is paid to this material. We think they actually feed us material to put up as they're feeding information to WikiLeaks and many other sites that operate the same way. But in terms of their being able to see everything we're doing, we know that we cannot keep any secrets about our site and we tell our readers, you should not expect us to protect you because we're being watched and every other site is being watched just like WikiLeaks is being watched. So there is no secrecy on the internet and we make that clear. That's the lesson we've learned and we now try to spread that. You have to be very aware of the Internet, which is a very large-scale spying machine. What really, really motivates you, though, to expose these secrets? Why is this your vocation? Why do you feel strongly that this needs to happen? Well, because secrecy is the biggest enemy of democracy. It is way overdone. And so threats to democracy are coming from the inside, from the secret keepers.

2:14:47 and that they need to be exposed. It has become a huge industry, it's extremely expensive, and you can't criticize it, you can't get access to it, because those who go inside that world are sworn to lifetime secrecy about it, and they can never talk about it. And I'm saying that's a system that is anti-democratic, and it's a big business now. Thousands of firms have been drawn into it since 9-1-1, because it's very lucrative. and so we need to have less secrecy in congress less secrecy in the presidency less secrecy in all forms of government let me ask you this though some of your criticism is about not vetting information publishing the addresses for example home addresses of CIA agents or detailed maps of government facilities saying that this is endangering people's lives this is welcoming attacks and giving people uh... you know details on how to commit them

2:15:38 there needs to be some kind of distinction between what's acceptable to put out there for the public and what's not. What do you say to those critics? Well, I say to those critics that they're pulling the authoritative trick, acting like they know better. We don't pull that trick. We don't think we know better than ordinary people about how to judge information. But we know that authoritatives are always saying things like you just said. You're going too far, you're putting lives at risk, there's blood on your hands. Are you? No. Are you putting lives at risk by publishing the addresses of a CIA agent at home? This has been going on for years and they always pull this. We've been told by former spies these are just standard reactions to this to get sympathy for them. They in fact will leak that kind of information themselves. You should know that governments leak more information than all the rest of us put together for their own purposes. Like what? Give us an example. Well, as they leak secrets, they get lax. They run operations to leak secrets to test their own system.

2:16:32 their own disgruntled employees are encouraged to leak secrets and let's see what happens. They leave laptops around as though left behind by a drunk. They leave papers around. They put stuff on Wikileaks. These are all well-known techniques to alarm the public, create sympathy, and get more funding. So this is a business. We would like to say, well, why don't we talk about that? Is there a better way to do that than to deceive the public about this? Why don't we just own up to it? For example, the U.S. military loses more secrets than any other single organization, but they never admit it because they say that would aid the enemy. Why not be candid about that, that your systems are leaking? Talking about how the government will leak information purposely to test their systems or to garner more support. Do you have an example of that?

2:17:23 Well, I can only say that there are schools to train people like Bradley Manning and doing just that on the internet. It's at Fort Huachuca. This is one of their training syllabuses that we've published. They actually teach young people how to run these sting operations by leaking information to test the system. They have something called A-teams and B-teams. that do combat on the internet by leaking this stuff. They've hired hackers to do that. Hackers in fact are favorite employees now of such groups. And so this is talked about at hacker conferences about how you get in on this. You can pick up good money by one, being an informant. Two, is running these test systems, infiltrating systems, sending out false information.

2:18:03 But this is not new. This has been going on ever since there's been a spy world. And so I'll just say it's now, the Internet is now used for that purpose. What does it achieve though? Well, it achieves one funding. If you don't have threats, you don't need the system. So leaking threats, so then people say, oh no, this is scary, this information that has randomly, surprisingly gotten out, so we need to go support whatever our government is saying it needs in terms of ramping up uh... homeland security funding or and you know breaching civil liberties in the name of protection protecting against terrorism that sort of thing is that what you're- correct, in fact the latest one that perfectly matches wikiLeaks is called cyber security we have a brand new cyber command that's just been given a huge amount of money it's been in the works however since the internet popped up cyber security and so if wikiLeaks hadn't invented itself let's assume that it did it would have been invented

2:18:56 because this is a gold mine for people who deal in cyber security. And don't forget, most of this work is handed out to contractors and universities and research institutions. It's always widely based money flow. And so without that, we would have no Defense Department. We'd have no national security apparatus. I would have less need for a president or a congress. So one of the things that's important to keep in mind here is that this is a deeply entrenched approach. Now, it turns out I'm not anti-integrity, I'm not anti-government, I'm anti-secret government. But aren't there some things that, you know, for national security reasons, it's better for the public to not know? No.

2:19:35 You don't think there's any? No, I'm saying that needs to be more openly discussed. Right now it's a knee-jerk reaction. I see far too many sensible people saying that. And then we need to talk more about what the internet threat is and what is cyber threat. Can you give us an example? And why are so many leaks coming from inside these security systems rather than outside? And why is that happening? Why are your systems so poorly secured that you can't control your own system? Now that's out there as documentation. And one of the ways, though, you cover up your own faults is to raise a new threat and blame other people. So that's what we see coming with WikiLeaks. It's going to be blame for the State Department's own failure to protect its own material. More importantly, the military is trying to deflect attention for how did Bradley Manning or whoever it was did this? And we don't know for sure it was Bradley Manning. How did this happen? This is supposed to be the most powerful, most adept, well-funded military system in the world. How did it happen?

2:20:26 Well, first thing, it's a sting operation. It didn't happen the way it said. It has all the earmarks of one. What are those? For an average person like myself who wouldn't know. Some low-level employee was able to get access to a classified system and he just had this bright idea to take it and give it off to someone. That's almost a joke in the cybersecurity world because that's exactly what you do to test the system. But mainly you got to have credibility that it's a real thing. And so it's almost as though it was a plot to do exactly this. Who benefits in that scenario? Cybercom does. They just got a huge funding. They were having trouble getting it on its feet. And so now they got a huge fund, they got a huge contractor handing out the conference I mentioned where NSA admitted that it can't secure networks was a business conference to contractors who want contracts to help secure the Internet in response to the WikiLeaks threat.

2:21:24 and others like it. Clarify what is CyberCon? CyberCon is a PR stunt by the Defense Department. The NSA is extremely adept, has been doing exactly what CyberCon does for many, many years. But because the Internet is a very popular topic, they have broken out a new thing called Cyber Command, which will deal with cyber threats. but it's still run by NSA, it's housed at NSA, the head of it is the head of NSA, and so it's just a marketing stunt. And so I think that cyber threats will probably eventually replace terrorist threats. You know, there's been this claim that terrorists are using the internet to plot attacks on us, so it's a kind of wedding of the two.

2:22:02 And so these kind of accusations of these knee-jerk congressional people about WikiLeaks being a terrorist is exactly part of that pattern. It's a repeat of the Red Menace and all these other kinds of fabricated menaces. And so now they've got a fabulous opportunity to say, well, the enemy is already inside the U.S. and they're on the Internet because we set it up, it's ours, and they've infiltrated us. What about people that would listen to your take on that and say, that just sounds like a conspiracy theory? Well, conspiracy theory was invented by the spies. No one does more conspiracy theory than spies do. The National Security apparatus cooks up conspiracy theories all the time, but they put out this story that it's just conspiracy theory, as though it's contemptible. But in fact, they're the ones who cook up the threats that are far more complex and bizarre than anything we ordinary people could ever cook up. And they get billions to fight it.

2:22:50 So they're almost diabolically conspiratorial. So let me call myself a skeptic and I'm willing to learn, welcome criticism. I don't mind these terms of being a dissident, a conspiracy theorist. Those are all throwaway terms, as Obama says, off my shoulder. Don't be fooled by that. There are much worse terms coming. Thank you so much for speaking with us.